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My name is Jessica Lee, and I am... 2 00:01:05,108 --> 00:01:07,110 wasan entertainer at the Maverick Men's Club 3 00:01:07,154 --> 00:01:09,330 just off the West Side Highway. 4 00:01:09,373 --> 00:01:13,247 Three weeks ago, at around 12:30, 5 00:01:13,290 --> 00:01:16,206 Nathan Alexander, the big real estate guy, 6 00:01:16,250 --> 00:01:19,427 paid me $100 to go into the Champagne Room with him. 7 00:01:19,470 --> 00:01:21,777 Now, when you go into the Champagne Room 8 00:01:21,820 --> 00:01:23,213 at a place like the Maverick, 9 00:01:23,257 --> 00:01:25,215 you're guaranteeing your customer 10 00:01:25,259 --> 00:01:27,304 three fully-nude lap dances. 11 00:01:27,348 --> 00:01:29,263 Three songs. 12 00:01:29,306 --> 00:01:31,439 There's not supposed to be any touching, 13 00:01:31,482 --> 00:01:33,223 but there almost always is. 14 00:01:33,267 --> 00:01:36,922 And I have never done it myself, 15 00:01:36,966 --> 00:01:39,403 but the other girls tell me that you can negotiate 16 00:01:39,447 --> 00:01:41,144 to do other things in there. 17 00:01:41,188 --> 00:01:43,668 It's a private room. There are no cameras. 18 00:01:43,712 --> 00:01:47,716 Anyway... 19 00:01:47,759 --> 00:01:51,676 We're in there, and I'm completely naked. 20 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,375 And he's got on a suit, like you would expect. 21 00:01:54,418 --> 00:01:57,378 I'm into the second song, 22 00:01:57,421 --> 00:01:59,467 and I'm doing what I guess 23 00:01:59,510 --> 00:02:02,818 you would call the "lap" part of the dance. 24 00:02:02,861 --> 00:02:06,343 And I look down, and I notice that his fly... 25 00:02:09,390 --> 00:02:10,782 Sorry. Didn't mean to frighten you. 26 00:02:10,826 --> 00:02:13,045 So it looks like Marissa's not coming in today. 27 00:02:13,089 --> 00:02:14,351 Something personal going on. 28 00:02:14,395 --> 00:02:16,005 And I'm gonna be out of the office 29 00:02:16,048 --> 00:02:18,050 running down some things on an upcoming case, so, 30 00:02:18,094 --> 00:02:21,010 Marissa told me to tell you, uh, that she's counting on you. 31 00:02:21,053 --> 00:02:22,794 Okay, so, what is it she needs me to do? 32 00:02:22,838 --> 00:02:25,319 Well, uh, nobody's in court today, 33 00:02:25,362 --> 00:02:27,495 so, it's really just about Bull. 34 00:02:27,538 --> 00:02:29,714 If he needs something, do your best to help him out. 35 00:02:29,758 --> 00:02:31,847 Now I just texted you a temporary password 36 00:02:31,890 --> 00:02:33,414 that's gonna get you into Marissa's files 37 00:02:33,457 --> 00:02:34,850 and Bull's schedule. 38 00:02:34,893 --> 00:02:37,766 Beyond that, you're on your own. 39 00:02:41,552 --> 00:02:43,598 Finally he gets off me. 40 00:02:43,641 --> 00:02:46,470 He just leaves the room. 41 00:02:46,514 --> 00:02:49,430 Anyway... 42 00:02:49,473 --> 00:02:51,432 I told the manager what happened, 43 00:02:51,475 --> 00:02:54,609 and he asked me if I knew who that guy was. 44 00:02:54,652 --> 00:02:57,525 And, um, he told me 45 00:02:57,568 --> 00:02:59,440 that that guy is 46 00:02:59,483 --> 00:03:02,617 about a thousand times more important than I am. 47 00:03:02,660 --> 00:03:04,445 Then he told me 48 00:03:04,488 --> 00:03:06,969 that they were overbooked for the next couple of weeks, 49 00:03:07,012 --> 00:03:09,450 that I shouldn't even bother coming in. 50 00:03:10,494 --> 00:03:12,061 Marissa?! 51 00:03:14,411 --> 00:03:16,370 Oh. 52 00:03:16,413 --> 00:03:19,024 Well, the keeper of the calendar is here. 53 00:03:19,068 --> 00:03:22,637 Uh, Thursday at 3:00 p.m. I have an ultrasound? 54 00:03:24,334 --> 00:03:26,510 Bet you didn't even know I was expecting. 55 00:03:26,554 --> 00:03:28,120 I'm shocked and amazed. 56 00:03:28,164 --> 00:03:30,558 I'll go find my little pass code and get back to you shortly. 57 00:03:30,601 --> 00:03:33,082 Thank you. 58 00:03:33,125 --> 00:03:34,257 Three days later, she realizes 59 00:03:34,301 --> 00:03:35,606 she really needs to go to the police. 60 00:03:35,650 --> 00:03:37,565 Taylor?But they tell her there's no evidence, 61 00:03:37,608 --> 00:03:38,609 so there's no case. 62 00:03:38,653 --> 00:03:40,611 That the D.A. isn't going to court 63 00:03:40,655 --> 00:03:42,961 unless he can win, and without evidence... 64 00:03:43,005 --> 00:03:45,486 And he's definitely not going to court to take on someone 65 00:03:45,529 --> 00:03:47,401 as well-connected as Nathan Alexander 66 00:03:47,444 --> 00:03:49,533 unless the case is rock-solid. 67 00:03:49,577 --> 00:03:51,274 Yeah, he's right. 68 00:03:51,318 --> 00:03:52,623 I don't think so. 69 00:03:52,667 --> 00:03:54,451 I don't think there's anything right about it. 70 00:03:54,495 --> 00:03:56,671 Look at it from the district attorney's point of view. 71 00:03:56,714 --> 00:03:58,629 The woman is a stripper. 72 00:03:58,673 --> 00:03:59,891 She takes her clothes off for a living. 73 00:03:59,935 --> 00:04:01,371 She entices for a living. 74 00:04:01,415 --> 00:04:02,720 And what's the net-net? 75 00:04:02,764 --> 00:04:04,505 A man was enticed. 76 00:04:04,548 --> 00:04:06,202 Now, I'm not saying I agree with it, 77 00:04:06,246 --> 00:04:09,074 but it's tough to make that case in front of a jury. 78 00:04:09,118 --> 00:04:11,076 That stripper's a woman. 79 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,513 A human being. 80 00:04:12,556 --> 00:04:14,254 Someone violated the law. 81 00:04:14,297 --> 00:04:15,603 Someone violated her. 82 00:04:15,646 --> 00:04:18,606 She says, but can't prove. 83 00:04:20,695 --> 00:04:22,653 Anyway... 84 00:04:22,697 --> 00:04:24,960 she posted this video because she needs help. 85 00:04:25,003 --> 00:04:28,006 A lawyer and some publicity to maybe force the D.A.'s hand. 86 00:04:28,050 --> 00:04:30,705 And it made me think about your law clinic at school. 87 00:04:32,228 --> 00:04:33,795 You've already got something. You're busy, aren't you? 88 00:04:33,838 --> 00:04:35,318 Yeah. 89 00:04:35,362 --> 00:04:37,320 Oh, wow. Like a right-to-life thing? 90 00:04:37,364 --> 00:04:38,626 Kind of. 91 00:04:38,669 --> 00:04:41,281 It's a lot of things. 92 00:04:41,324 --> 00:04:44,414 My point is, my calendar's really full. 93 00:04:44,458 --> 00:04:46,329 Right. Calendar. 94 00:04:47,548 --> 00:04:48,723 Calendar. Oh, no. 95 00:04:48,766 --> 00:04:50,420 Bull? 96 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,212 Bull, sorry it took me so long. 97 00:05:00,256 --> 00:05:01,649 You are all clear for Thursday. 98 00:05:01,692 --> 00:05:03,694 I'll put it down for 3:00 p.m. 99 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,836 Knock, knock, knock. 100 00:05:16,228 --> 00:05:18,753 Can I ask you a question that would definitely fall 101 00:05:18,796 --> 00:05:20,972 into the category of "none of my business"? 102 00:05:22,583 --> 00:05:24,541 Why do you guys have a meeting 103 00:05:24,585 --> 00:05:26,630 with Nathan Alexander on the books? 104 00:05:26,674 --> 00:05:28,676 I'm just curious. 105 00:05:28,719 --> 00:05:31,766 Read about him in the paper, see his picture lots of places. 106 00:05:31,809 --> 00:05:33,985 Yeah, he does take a good picture, doesn't he? 107 00:05:34,029 --> 00:05:35,944 Honestly, I have no idea. 108 00:05:35,987 --> 00:05:37,859 We don't do real estate law. 109 00:05:37,902 --> 00:05:40,601 He must have approached Bull privately. 110 00:05:40,644 --> 00:05:44,387 Why? You want me to get you invited to the meeting? 111 00:05:44,431 --> 00:05:46,258 Nope, not necessary. 112 00:05:46,302 --> 00:05:47,564 Thanks. 113 00:05:49,087 --> 00:05:52,003 Can I ask you another question? A legal question? 114 00:05:52,047 --> 00:05:55,050 Hmm. I'm gonna have to start billing you, Taylor. 115 00:05:55,093 --> 00:05:57,879 If you meet with a client, a prospective client, 116 00:05:57,922 --> 00:06:00,969 and they have a case, do you ever meet with the other side 117 00:06:01,012 --> 00:06:02,405 the person they're suing, 118 00:06:02,449 --> 00:06:04,015 or the person they're accusing of something 119 00:06:04,059 --> 00:06:07,410 to see which side of the case you want to represent? 120 00:06:07,454 --> 00:06:09,630 Nope. Doesn't work that way. 121 00:06:09,673 --> 00:06:12,502 Once you meet with one side of the legal dispute, 122 00:06:12,546 --> 00:06:14,678 you're forbidden from meeting with the other side. 123 00:06:14,722 --> 00:06:16,332 Part of the code of conduct. 124 00:06:16,376 --> 00:06:17,681 Always has been. 125 00:06:17,725 --> 00:06:19,422 Forbidden, huh? 126 00:06:19,466 --> 00:06:21,642 Long as I've been doing it. 127 00:06:21,685 --> 00:06:24,819 So it's kind of... whoever gets there first. 128 00:06:24,862 --> 00:06:28,170 Yeah, you could say that. 129 00:06:28,213 --> 00:06:30,215 Aha. 130 00:06:35,873 --> 00:06:37,397 Jessica? 131 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:38,833 I'm Taylor. 132 00:06:38,876 --> 00:06:40,400 We spoke on the phone? 133 00:06:40,443 --> 00:06:42,140 From Homeland Security? 134 00:06:42,184 --> 00:06:43,533 Well, not anymore. 135 00:06:43,577 --> 00:06:45,709 I, uh... sorry if I wasn't clear on the phone. 136 00:06:45,753 --> 00:06:47,494 I-I work at a legal firm now. 137 00:06:47,537 --> 00:06:48,799 Well, whatever. 138 00:06:48,843 --> 00:06:51,846 I'm just... blown away that you want to help me. 139 00:06:51,889 --> 00:06:53,674 And I do. I want to help you. 140 00:06:53,717 --> 00:06:55,502 The thing is, the lawyer I arranged 141 00:06:55,545 --> 00:06:58,418 to meet us isn't here yet, so I'm gonna bring you inside, 142 00:06:58,461 --> 00:06:59,941 get you seated, and then, um, 143 00:06:59,984 --> 00:07:01,421 wait out here for him. 144 00:07:01,464 --> 00:07:02,683 Are you okay with that? 145 00:07:02,726 --> 00:07:04,728 Uh, sure. 146 00:07:09,341 --> 00:07:10,560 Taylor? 147 00:07:10,604 --> 00:07:12,170 Hey. Sorry. 148 00:07:12,214 --> 00:07:13,694 I didn't get a chance to go home and change. 149 00:07:13,737 --> 00:07:15,173 Not to worry. 150 00:07:15,217 --> 00:07:17,393 She's a very, very casual girl. Ah. 151 00:07:17,437 --> 00:07:19,482 I just... I don't know. 152 00:07:19,526 --> 00:07:21,571 I thought you two might hit it off. 153 00:07:21,615 --> 00:07:24,705 And like I told you, she's having some legal problems. 154 00:07:24,748 --> 00:07:26,968 Probably gonna ask you a ton of questions. 155 00:07:27,011 --> 00:07:28,665 Great icebreaker. 156 00:07:31,538 --> 00:07:33,540 All right. 157 00:07:36,978 --> 00:07:38,719 Taylor, Taylor, Taylor. 158 00:07:38,762 --> 00:07:40,938 Is that her? 159 00:07:40,982 --> 00:07:42,505 That's her. 160 00:07:42,549 --> 00:07:44,942 Boy. She looks awfully young. 161 00:07:44,986 --> 00:07:46,509 So do you. 162 00:07:46,553 --> 00:07:48,511 Ah. 163 00:07:48,555 --> 00:07:51,253 Taylor, I know you mean well, but I'm thinking 164 00:07:51,296 --> 00:07:53,255 that maybe this isn't such a good idea. 165 00:07:53,298 --> 00:07:56,301 Well, how will we know if you don't try? 166 00:07:56,345 --> 00:07:58,521 Come on, Benny. Just sit down. She's not gonna bite. 167 00:07:58,565 --> 00:08:00,654 She's gonna ask you about the law and court 168 00:08:00,697 --> 00:08:02,525 and this situation she got herself into. 169 00:08:02,569 --> 00:08:04,745 What kind of situation? 170 00:08:04,788 --> 00:08:06,529 I have no idea. 171 00:08:06,573 --> 00:08:09,532 But if we just stand here, we'll never find out. 172 00:08:11,012 --> 00:08:12,448 Do it for me. 173 00:08:13,580 --> 00:08:15,495 All right, I'm in. 174 00:08:15,538 --> 00:08:17,061 Let's eat. 175 00:08:18,106 --> 00:08:20,108 Jessica. 176 00:08:20,151 --> 00:08:21,501 Meet my friend Benny. 177 00:08:21,544 --> 00:08:23,459 Benny, this is Jessica. 178 00:08:23,503 --> 00:08:25,940 Jessica, so lovely to meet you. 179 00:08:25,983 --> 00:08:27,507 Hi. 180 00:08:27,550 --> 00:08:28,682 So, Taylor tells me 181 00:08:28,725 --> 00:08:30,684 that you are having some legal issues. 182 00:08:30,727 --> 00:08:32,337 What's going on? 183 00:08:32,381 --> 00:08:34,426 Are you staring at a court date? 184 00:08:34,470 --> 00:08:36,124 No. I wish. 185 00:08:36,167 --> 00:08:37,865 But I'd like to be. 186 00:08:37,908 --> 00:08:40,955 I'd like to go to court. I'd like to get some justice. 187 00:08:40,998 --> 00:08:44,132 Well, let's see if we can't help you. 188 00:08:44,175 --> 00:08:47,875 Let's start from the beginning. Want to tell me what happened? 189 00:08:47,918 --> 00:08:49,616 I was raped. 190 00:08:51,661 --> 00:08:53,620 Okay. 191 00:08:53,663 --> 00:08:55,491 No. I mean, um.... 192 00:08:55,535 --> 00:08:57,362 no, it's not okay. 193 00:08:57,406 --> 00:08:59,756 I mean, uh... wow. 194 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,584 Uh... oh, my goodness. 195 00:09:01,628 --> 00:09:02,933 I'm-I'm so sorry. 196 00:09:02,977 --> 00:09:06,546 Do you have any idea who did this to you? 197 00:09:06,589 --> 00:09:10,506 Oh, yeah. I know exactly who did this to me. 198 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:12,247 He's kind of famous. 199 00:09:12,290 --> 00:09:13,901 Anybody I'd know? 200 00:09:13,944 --> 00:09:15,990 Maybe. You know Nathan Alexander? 201 00:09:19,733 --> 00:09:22,431 Yeah. 202 00:09:22,474 --> 00:09:25,347 Yeah, yeah, I've-I've... I've definitely... 203 00:09:25,390 --> 00:09:27,349 heard that name. 204 00:09:27,392 --> 00:09:29,394 Um... 205 00:09:30,874 --> 00:09:32,833 So lovely to meet you, Jessica. 206 00:09:32,876 --> 00:09:35,009 May I please speak to you outside? 207 00:09:37,664 --> 00:09:40,405 I'm confused. Is he... coming back? 208 00:09:40,449 --> 00:09:41,624 Just give me one second. 209 00:09:44,496 --> 00:09:46,498 Benny! 210 00:09:47,499 --> 00:09:49,589 You know what you just did? 211 00:09:49,632 --> 00:09:51,591 Followed you out here? 212 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:55,638 You just made it impossible for me 213 00:09:55,682 --> 00:09:58,249 to meet with Nathan Alexander tomorrow. 214 00:09:58,293 --> 00:09:59,860 Well, only if he's coming in to talk about 215 00:09:59,903 --> 00:10:01,513 how he's worried he might be accused 216 00:10:01,557 --> 00:10:04,604 of raping a dancer he met at a gentlemen's club. 217 00:10:06,127 --> 00:10:08,172 A dancer at a gentlemen's club? 218 00:10:08,216 --> 00:10:09,826 Benny, she's really desperate. 219 00:10:09,870 --> 00:10:12,350 You... 220 00:10:12,394 --> 00:10:14,396 you did this on purpose. 221 00:10:14,439 --> 00:10:18,269 What do you think's gonna happen next, Taylor? 222 00:10:18,313 --> 00:10:21,272 Huh? What do you think Bull's gonna say? 223 00:10:21,316 --> 00:10:22,796 Well, I'm hoping, 224 00:10:22,839 --> 00:10:24,711 when he and you actually hear Jessica's story, 225 00:10:24,754 --> 00:10:26,147 you'll want to help her. 226 00:10:26,190 --> 00:10:28,671 Help her? Help?! 227 00:10:28,715 --> 00:10:30,455 Forget about her! 228 00:10:30,499 --> 00:10:32,457 I'm talking about you! 229 00:10:32,501 --> 00:10:34,634 You're gonna be looking for a job tomorrow. 230 00:10:34,677 --> 00:10:36,070 You get that, don't you? 231 00:10:36,113 --> 00:10:37,898 I'm sorry, Benny. 232 00:10:37,941 --> 00:10:39,726 I'm really sorry, but... 233 00:10:39,769 --> 00:10:41,728 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. 234 00:10:41,771 --> 00:10:43,643 There-there is no "but." There is no "but." 235 00:10:45,427 --> 00:10:47,603 Nathan Alexander was a major guy, 236 00:10:47,647 --> 00:10:50,562 and you just shut us out of doing business with him. 237 00:10:50,606 --> 00:10:54,349 And last I checked, your name is not even on the door. 238 00:10:54,392 --> 00:10:57,569 Who the hell do you think you are, pulling a stunt like this? 239 00:11:11,061 --> 00:11:15,283 Now, I've asked Marissa to sit in to protect me 240 00:11:15,326 --> 00:11:18,373 from myself if she deems that necessary. 241 00:11:18,416 --> 00:11:20,810 But honestly, I cannot conjure a world 242 00:11:20,854 --> 00:11:23,726 where I do not let you go for cause. 243 00:11:23,770 --> 00:11:25,597 I understand. 244 00:11:25,641 --> 00:11:28,209 And lest you think I'm overreacting, 245 00:11:28,252 --> 00:11:30,951 I called Mr. Alexander's general counsel this morning, 246 00:11:30,994 --> 00:11:32,735 and I asked him, "Does this meeting 247 00:11:32,779 --> 00:11:34,476 have anything to do with a gentlemen's club?" 248 00:11:34,519 --> 00:11:36,696 And he, of course, laughed and said, 249 00:11:36,739 --> 00:11:37,871 "Absolutely not." 250 00:11:37,914 --> 00:11:39,437 And five minutes later, 251 00:11:39,481 --> 00:11:42,310 someone from his office called and canceled the meeting! 252 00:11:42,353 --> 00:11:44,573 Well, actually, I think that kind of proves my point. 253 00:11:44,616 --> 00:11:46,444 Excuse me, Taylor. 254 00:11:46,488 --> 00:11:48,098 I am not here to hear your point. 255 00:11:48,142 --> 00:11:49,404 You are here to hear my point. 256 00:11:49,447 --> 00:11:50,927 You cost me money. 257 00:11:50,971 --> 00:11:54,148 You cost me a valuable business relationship. 258 00:11:54,191 --> 00:11:56,803 And I'm not sensing 259 00:11:56,846 --> 00:11:59,631 a tremendous amount of contrition on your part. 260 00:11:59,675 --> 00:12:01,546 I disagree, Bull. I think that Taylor is very... 261 00:12:01,590 --> 00:12:03,810 The woman I'm trying to help was raped. 262 00:12:03,853 --> 00:12:06,203 This man you were planning to meet with today, 263 00:12:06,247 --> 00:12:07,727 this man you want to have 264 00:12:07,770 --> 00:12:10,033 a valuable business relationship with 265 00:12:10,077 --> 00:12:12,862 had sex with her without her consent. 266 00:12:12,906 --> 00:12:15,169 Again, I understand that, but that is not the point. 267 00:12:15,212 --> 00:12:16,605 There is no other point. 268 00:12:16,648 --> 00:12:18,433 He did a horrible thing. 269 00:12:18,476 --> 00:12:21,001 And there's no reason to think he hasn't done it before, 270 00:12:21,044 --> 00:12:23,133 and there's no reason to think he won't do it again. 271 00:12:23,177 --> 00:12:25,222 But because he's rich... 272 00:12:25,266 --> 00:12:26,963 What does that have to do with anything? 273 00:12:27,007 --> 00:12:28,748 Oh, my God. 274 00:12:28,791 --> 00:12:31,185 That has everything to do with everything. 275 00:12:31,228 --> 00:12:34,144 Because he's rich, if this ever does go to court, 276 00:12:34,188 --> 00:12:36,712 he'll pay to have someone like you minimize it 277 00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:38,279 and obfuscate the facts 278 00:12:38,322 --> 00:12:40,368 and pack the jury with a bunch of people 279 00:12:40,411 --> 00:12:43,197 who want to be him and want to have what he has 280 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,373 and therefore would never, ever vote against him 281 00:12:45,416 --> 00:12:47,375 or the person they think they might be 282 00:12:47,418 --> 00:12:48,724 if they ever won the lotto 283 00:12:48,768 --> 00:12:51,814 or the Powerball or the Irish Sweepstakes. 284 00:12:51,858 --> 00:12:53,163 Is this the argument 285 00:12:53,207 --> 00:12:55,949 that's supposed to convince me not to fire her? 286 00:12:55,992 --> 00:12:57,298 Lest we forget, 287 00:12:57,341 --> 00:12:59,474 these are allegations you are talking about, 288 00:12:59,517 --> 00:13:00,692 not provable facts. 289 00:13:00,736 --> 00:13:02,129 Really? Mm. 290 00:13:02,172 --> 00:13:03,652 Then why'd he offer her a million dollars this morning 291 00:13:03,695 --> 00:13:05,045 to sign an NDA? 292 00:13:05,088 --> 00:13:06,698 Uh, did she take it? 293 00:13:06,742 --> 00:13:08,004 No. 294 00:13:08,048 --> 00:13:10,485 She wants to go to court! 295 00:13:13,357 --> 00:13:15,795 This is just a really bad dude. 296 00:13:17,187 --> 00:13:19,711 If we don't try to stop him, 297 00:13:19,755 --> 00:13:22,018 who will? 298 00:13:22,062 --> 00:13:24,368 The simple truth is there are things we control 299 00:13:24,412 --> 00:13:25,935 and things we don't. 300 00:13:25,979 --> 00:13:28,285 Your case against Mr. Alexander is not, 301 00:13:28,329 --> 00:13:30,679 for the conceivable future, heading to court. 302 00:13:30,722 --> 00:13:32,420 It just isn't, 303 00:13:32,463 --> 00:13:34,422 and there's nothing we can do about it. 304 00:13:34,465 --> 00:13:36,380 The D.A.'s office is convinced 305 00:13:36,424 --> 00:13:37,817 there's no therethere. 306 00:13:37,860 --> 00:13:40,297 A complete lack of evidence and witnesses. 307 00:13:40,341 --> 00:13:41,733 No one saw anything. 308 00:13:41,777 --> 00:13:43,866 No one heard anything. 309 00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:46,216 I don't know what to tell you. 310 00:13:48,436 --> 00:13:50,394 Well, couldn't we 311 00:13:50,438 --> 00:13:52,048 maybe file in civil court? 312 00:13:52,092 --> 00:13:53,789 Assault and intentional infliction 313 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:55,312 of emotional distress. 314 00:13:55,356 --> 00:13:56,705 Something like that. 315 00:13:58,141 --> 00:13:59,273 I don't understand. 316 00:13:59,316 --> 00:14:01,188 It would be a civil trial. 317 00:14:01,231 --> 00:14:03,016 You'd be suing him for money, 318 00:14:03,059 --> 00:14:04,495 not threatening to send him to jail. 319 00:14:04,539 --> 00:14:06,149 And the burden of proof is lower. 320 00:14:06,193 --> 00:14:08,282 You'd only have to convince five out of six jurors 321 00:14:08,325 --> 00:14:09,370 instead of 12. Hold the phone. 322 00:14:09,413 --> 00:14:11,154 Before everyone gets carried away, 323 00:14:11,198 --> 00:14:12,503 we still don't have any real evidence. 324 00:14:12,547 --> 00:14:13,896 Whether it's in criminal court 325 00:14:13,940 --> 00:14:15,289 or civil court, 326 00:14:15,332 --> 00:14:17,987 it is still just a "he said, she said" situation, 327 00:14:18,031 --> 00:14:20,903 and I honestly don't think 328 00:14:20,947 --> 00:14:22,992 there is enough here to go forward. 329 00:14:24,037 --> 00:14:25,473 Well, not to cast 330 00:14:25,516 --> 00:14:27,518 any aspersions on the NYPD detectives 331 00:14:27,562 --> 00:14:28,824 that have already looked into this, 332 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:30,565 but would anyone mind 333 00:14:30,608 --> 00:14:33,002 if I did a little investigating? 334 00:14:33,046 --> 00:14:34,438 I mean, just because 335 00:14:34,482 --> 00:14:36,223 no one's found any evidence yet 336 00:14:36,266 --> 00:14:38,921 doesn't mean there isn't any evidence to be found. 337 00:14:53,980 --> 00:14:55,938 Can I help you? 338 00:14:55,982 --> 00:14:58,506 You looking for a restroom? 339 00:14:58,549 --> 00:15:00,638 Do I look like I'm looking for a restroom? 340 00:15:00,682 --> 00:15:02,945 My mistake. 341 00:15:02,989 --> 00:15:06,166 You'd be amazed at the number of people 342 00:15:06,209 --> 00:15:08,472 who come in God's house looking for a restroom. 343 00:15:08,516 --> 00:15:09,821 Huh. Well, 344 00:15:09,865 --> 00:15:11,345 what can I point you towards?Oh, 345 00:15:11,388 --> 00:15:13,521 I was hoping I could... 346 00:15:13,564 --> 00:15:16,916 make an appointment to speak to someone. 347 00:15:16,959 --> 00:15:18,395 Home stuff. 348 00:15:18,439 --> 00:15:19,614 Family stuff. 349 00:15:19,657 --> 00:15:21,485 You belong to the parish? 350 00:15:21,529 --> 00:15:23,444 No. I do not. 351 00:15:23,487 --> 00:15:26,708 I don't think I've stepped inside a church 352 00:15:26,751 --> 00:15:29,015 for anything other than a wedding or a baptism 353 00:15:29,058 --> 00:15:31,147 since the turn of the century. 354 00:15:31,191 --> 00:15:33,367 And what's going on at home? 355 00:15:33,410 --> 00:15:35,369 At least 356 00:15:35,412 --> 00:15:37,501 give me an idea so I can figure out 357 00:15:37,545 --> 00:15:39,286 who you ought to talk to. 358 00:15:39,329 --> 00:15:41,331 It's kind of private. 359 00:15:47,076 --> 00:15:49,426 It's my daughter. 360 00:15:49,470 --> 00:15:52,560 She is bound and determined to do something. 361 00:15:52,603 --> 00:15:55,606 Something that I know to be wrong. 362 00:15:55,650 --> 00:15:58,479 It's just the wrongest thing in the world. 363 00:15:59,741 --> 00:16:02,700 But she says she wants me with her. 364 00:16:02,744 --> 00:16:05,573 Says she needs me with her. 365 00:16:05,616 --> 00:16:07,053 And I don't want her 366 00:16:07,096 --> 00:16:09,316 to do this thing that she's going to do, 367 00:16:09,359 --> 00:16:11,100 but I also... 368 00:16:11,144 --> 00:16:13,146 I don't want to let her down. 369 00:16:14,495 --> 00:16:16,540 And the truth is is that she's gonna do it 370 00:16:16,584 --> 00:16:19,804 with or without me. She's an adult now. 371 00:16:19,848 --> 00:16:22,372 I just... 372 00:16:22,416 --> 00:16:25,723 I don't know whether to be a good father 373 00:16:25,767 --> 00:16:28,552 or a good person. 374 00:16:28,596 --> 00:16:31,512 Very God-like problem. 375 00:16:31,555 --> 00:16:33,557 How do you mean? 376 00:16:35,559 --> 00:16:39,085 Relationship between a parent and a child, 377 00:16:39,128 --> 00:16:42,218 the relationship between God and every single human being 378 00:16:42,262 --> 00:16:43,437 is not that different. 379 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,873 God stays with you 380 00:16:44,916 --> 00:16:47,049 whether you're doing something good or bad. 381 00:16:47,093 --> 00:16:48,616 Tries to let you know 382 00:16:48,659 --> 00:16:51,619 in every way possible that... 383 00:16:51,662 --> 00:16:54,187 you're not doing the right thing. 384 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:56,537 But more important than that, 385 00:16:56,580 --> 00:16:57,842 he wants you to know 386 00:16:57,886 --> 00:17:00,323 that no matter what, 387 00:17:00,367 --> 00:17:02,195 he's still with you. 388 00:17:02,238 --> 00:17:05,198 Same thing for a parent, don't you think? 389 00:17:05,241 --> 00:17:07,243 Yeah. 390 00:17:08,766 --> 00:17:10,725 I hear you. 391 00:17:10,768 --> 00:17:13,032 So, let's, uh... 392 00:17:13,075 --> 00:17:15,469 see who we might set you up with. 393 00:17:15,512 --> 00:17:19,516 Actually, I'm good. 394 00:17:20,517 --> 00:17:22,345 You sure? 395 00:17:24,956 --> 00:17:26,958 I'm very sure. 396 00:17:29,396 --> 00:17:31,354 Thank you, Pastor. 397 00:17:31,398 --> 00:17:33,400 Uh, son? 398 00:17:36,011 --> 00:17:37,578 Huh. 399 00:17:57,685 --> 00:18:00,079 So it's true. 400 00:18:00,122 --> 00:18:03,647 What Marissa texted me was true. 401 00:18:03,691 --> 00:18:05,475 We're going to court. 402 00:18:05,519 --> 00:18:09,523 There's no talking you out of this. 403 00:18:09,566 --> 00:18:11,525 Huh. 404 00:18:11,568 --> 00:18:15,442 I-I leave the office for five hours, 405 00:18:15,485 --> 00:18:18,575 and not only do you not fire Taylor 406 00:18:18,619 --> 00:18:22,013 but you reward her reckless behavior 407 00:18:22,057 --> 00:18:23,406 by taking this case. 408 00:18:23,450 --> 00:18:25,800 Okay, so you want me to fire Taylor? 409 00:18:25,843 --> 00:18:27,628 Of course not. 410 00:18:27,671 --> 00:18:31,545 But I don't relish the idea of devoting weeks 411 00:18:31,588 --> 00:18:33,721 to a "he said, she said" case 412 00:18:33,764 --> 00:18:35,853 where the "he" is a very powerful 413 00:18:35,897 --> 00:18:37,855 and accomplished member of our community 414 00:18:37,899 --> 00:18:39,118 and the "she" is... 415 00:18:39,161 --> 00:18:41,032 Not? 416 00:18:41,076 --> 00:18:43,209 I don't know what to tell you. 417 00:18:43,252 --> 00:18:45,646 I was sitting over there, 418 00:18:45,689 --> 00:18:48,214 and I was trying to convince everybody 419 00:18:48,257 --> 00:18:49,519 how foolhardy this would all be, 420 00:18:49,563 --> 00:18:51,347 that we were on the wrong side of it, 421 00:18:51,391 --> 00:18:53,654 that I had been doing this long enough 422 00:18:53,697 --> 00:18:56,657 that I knew how it was gonna go. 423 00:18:56,700 --> 00:18:58,398 You can't fight the kind of entrenched power 424 00:18:58,441 --> 00:19:01,183 a guy like Nathan Alexander represents. 425 00:19:01,227 --> 00:19:04,055 And I'm hearing myself talk, 426 00:19:04,099 --> 00:19:06,319 and I'm thinking, 427 00:19:06,362 --> 00:19:09,626 "When did you become so old 428 00:19:09,670 --> 00:19:12,542 and cynical and afraid?" 429 00:19:12,586 --> 00:19:14,022 And I'm thinking about my kid, 430 00:19:14,065 --> 00:19:16,590 about your niece or nephew and if something 431 00:19:16,633 --> 00:19:17,939 horrible ever happened to them 432 00:19:17,982 --> 00:19:20,289 that they would come to someone like me. 433 00:19:21,986 --> 00:19:23,336 And somewhere in there, 434 00:19:23,379 --> 00:19:25,076 I had Marissa call over to the courthouse, 435 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:26,817 and you know the rest. 436 00:19:27,862 --> 00:19:29,820 All right. 437 00:19:29,864 --> 00:19:33,172 Well... see you in the morning. 438 00:19:33,215 --> 00:19:35,174 See you in the morning. 439 00:19:42,485 --> 00:19:43,878 Have you or anyone you know ever been the victim 440 00:19:43,921 --> 00:19:46,054 of sexual assault? 441 00:19:46,097 --> 00:19:49,797 If so, if that experience will impact your ability 442 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,843 to be impartial in this case, please raise your hand. 443 00:19:56,891 --> 00:19:58,240 All right, then. 444 00:19:58,284 --> 00:20:00,068 I'll speak to those jurors individually 445 00:20:00,111 --> 00:20:01,983 at sidebar regarding their ability 446 00:20:02,026 --> 00:20:04,551 to serve on this jury. 447 00:20:13,603 --> 00:20:15,953 We got our work cut out for us. 448 00:20:15,997 --> 00:20:17,781 Where did all the girls go? 449 00:20:22,308 --> 00:20:24,266 Thanks for taking the time 450 00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:26,050 to speak with me, Ms. Alexander. 451 00:20:26,094 --> 00:20:28,096 You can call me Beth. 452 00:20:29,097 --> 00:20:31,839 You're here about Nathan, aren't you? 453 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,190 I grew up riding. Horses. 454 00:20:35,234 --> 00:20:37,584 And I always wanted one of my own. 455 00:20:38,628 --> 00:20:40,021 And when Nathan and I got married, 456 00:20:40,064 --> 00:20:43,111 he bought me the most beautiful black quarter horse. 457 00:20:44,460 --> 00:20:46,984 She was everything to me. 458 00:20:47,028 --> 00:20:48,856 Then one day, 459 00:20:48,899 --> 00:20:50,727 barely four and a half years later, 460 00:20:50,771 --> 00:20:52,816 he wanted a divorce. 461 00:20:52,860 --> 00:20:54,905 He offered me half his fortune, 462 00:20:54,949 --> 00:20:57,604 this apartment, half the stock portfolio, 463 00:20:57,647 --> 00:20:59,083 no questions asked. 464 00:20:59,127 --> 00:21:02,522 When it came to that horse... 465 00:21:05,264 --> 00:21:08,092 He fought me with everything he had. 466 00:21:10,138 --> 00:21:12,619 'Cause he knew that's what I really loved. 467 00:21:14,403 --> 00:21:17,798 So you can ask me anything. 468 00:21:17,841 --> 00:21:20,366 I'm bulletproof. 469 00:21:20,409 --> 00:21:22,890 He got my horse. 470 00:21:22,933 --> 00:21:25,762 Do you know what your ex-husband is accused of? 471 00:21:27,198 --> 00:21:29,157 I read about it. 472 00:21:30,201 --> 00:21:32,769 Some men... 473 00:21:32,813 --> 00:21:35,903 You can't give them anything. 474 00:21:35,946 --> 00:21:39,123 It only feels good to them if they take it. 475 00:21:39,167 --> 00:21:41,169 Are you aware of him taking anything 476 00:21:41,212 --> 00:21:43,040 from any other woman? 477 00:21:45,042 --> 00:21:48,611 He hired this nice young woman to walk our dog. 478 00:21:48,655 --> 00:21:51,266 This pretty college girl. 479 00:21:52,702 --> 00:21:55,139 The way she would look at Nathan when she would come over, 480 00:21:55,183 --> 00:21:56,750 I just... I knew something was going on 481 00:21:56,793 --> 00:22:00,101 or that she wanted something to go on. 482 00:22:00,144 --> 00:22:03,670 Then one day, about six months before we divorced, 483 00:22:03,713 --> 00:22:05,933 she just quit. 484 00:22:05,976 --> 00:22:08,501 Nathan said she was moving back to wherever 485 00:22:08,544 --> 00:22:11,373 to look after her sick mother, but... 486 00:22:11,417 --> 00:22:13,549 the look on her face when she came by 487 00:22:13,593 --> 00:22:16,509 to pick up her last check was... 488 00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:19,033 Do you remember her name? 489 00:22:19,076 --> 00:22:20,339 And the night 490 00:22:20,382 --> 00:22:22,732 that Mr. Alexander approached you 491 00:22:22,776 --> 00:22:25,126 he gave you $25? 492 00:22:25,169 --> 00:22:28,695 He gave me $100 and told me to keep the change. 493 00:22:28,738 --> 00:22:30,392 So what did you do? 494 00:22:30,436 --> 00:22:32,916 I smiled, and I said, "For that much, 495 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,266 you could have gone into one of the VIP rooms." 496 00:22:35,310 --> 00:22:36,964 And how did he respond? 497 00:22:37,007 --> 00:22:39,314 He said, "That's a great idea." 498 00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:42,056 And he took my hand, and he led me 499 00:22:42,099 --> 00:22:43,927 to the Champagne Room. 500 00:22:43,971 --> 00:22:45,973 And did you know who he was? 501 00:22:46,016 --> 00:22:48,018 I knew he was a big shot. 502 00:22:48,062 --> 00:22:50,847 The girls would get all giddy every time he would come in. 503 00:22:50,891 --> 00:22:52,719 So I knew he was a big tipper, 504 00:22:52,762 --> 00:22:54,590 but it's not like I knew his name. 505 00:22:54,634 --> 00:22:57,376 Mm-hmm. So he took you to the Champagne Room. 506 00:22:57,419 --> 00:23:00,117 Can you tell us exactly what happened? 507 00:23:00,161 --> 00:23:02,119 He raped me! 508 00:23:04,165 --> 00:23:08,038 I was in the middle of the second song when 509 00:23:08,082 --> 00:23:10,040 I looked down, and I realized 510 00:23:10,084 --> 00:23:13,653 he'd unzipped his fly and undid his belt. 511 00:23:13,696 --> 00:23:15,916 I kept dancing over him, 512 00:23:15,959 --> 00:23:18,658 pretending not to notice. 513 00:23:18,701 --> 00:23:22,139 Then he put his hands around my waist 514 00:23:22,183 --> 00:23:24,054 and pulled me in towards him. 515 00:23:24,098 --> 00:23:26,100 Did you scream? 516 00:23:26,143 --> 00:23:28,102 Yeah. 517 00:23:28,145 --> 00:23:30,060 But the music was really loud. 518 00:23:30,104 --> 00:23:32,802 There's a panic button on the wall, 519 00:23:32,846 --> 00:23:35,588 but he was holding me, so I couldn't get to it. 520 00:23:35,631 --> 00:23:38,460 I kept hitting him, hitting him, 521 00:23:38,504 --> 00:23:41,463 but he seemed to like that. 522 00:23:41,507 --> 00:23:43,639 Then he jumped up out of his chair. 523 00:23:43,683 --> 00:23:45,685 He turned me over. 524 00:23:45,728 --> 00:23:48,035 And the next thing, 525 00:23:48,078 --> 00:23:51,560 we were on the floor, and... 526 00:23:51,604 --> 00:23:53,257 I couldn't see anything. 527 00:23:53,301 --> 00:23:55,434 I had my eyes closed anyway. 528 00:23:56,522 --> 00:23:59,089 Any idea how long it lasted? 529 00:23:59,133 --> 00:24:03,833 It seemed like it lasted forever. 530 00:24:03,877 --> 00:24:05,182 Yeah. 531 00:24:07,663 --> 00:24:10,710 One last question. 532 00:24:10,753 --> 00:24:13,364 You didn't call the police immediately after. 533 00:24:13,408 --> 00:24:15,410 Can I ask why? 534 00:24:17,281 --> 00:24:21,460 I don't know. I guess that because... 535 00:24:21,503 --> 00:24:23,418 he's a somebody, 536 00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:25,812 and I'm... 537 00:24:25,855 --> 00:24:27,944 a... a nobody. 538 00:24:29,555 --> 00:24:32,035 I didn't think anybody would believe me. 539 00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:34,037 Thank you, Ms. Lee. 540 00:24:34,081 --> 00:24:35,822 No further questions, Your Honor. 541 00:24:35,865 --> 00:24:37,650 Any movement on our end? 542 00:24:37,693 --> 00:24:41,001 It's still a sea of red over here. 543 00:24:44,134 --> 00:24:45,614 You all right? 544 00:24:45,658 --> 00:24:47,007 Need a minute? 545 00:24:47,050 --> 00:24:48,878 I'm all right. 546 00:24:50,576 --> 00:24:53,274 So... you mentioned 547 00:24:53,317 --> 00:24:55,363 that your erotic encounter with my client 548 00:24:55,406 --> 00:24:56,973 seemed to go on...It wasn't an erotic encounter. 549 00:24:57,017 --> 00:24:58,235 Forgive me. 550 00:24:58,279 --> 00:25:00,194 Your encounter.The attack! 551 00:25:00,237 --> 00:25:02,326 Your Honor, may I finish asking my question? 552 00:25:02,370 --> 00:25:04,067 The witness 553 00:25:04,111 --> 00:25:05,416 will refrain from speaking 554 00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:07,941 until counsel has finished asking the question. 555 00:25:07,984 --> 00:25:11,248 Again, you testified 556 00:25:11,292 --> 00:25:14,556 that this encounter seemed to last forever. 557 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,558 That notwithstanding, 558 00:25:16,602 --> 00:25:18,560 do you remember approximately 559 00:25:18,604 --> 00:25:22,172 what time my client left the Champagne Room? 560 00:25:24,218 --> 00:25:26,307 Uh, around 12:30. 561 00:25:26,350 --> 00:25:27,569 You sure about that? 562 00:25:27,613 --> 00:25:30,877 We went into the Champagne Room 563 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,140 ten minutes after 12:00. 564 00:25:33,183 --> 00:25:35,577 It was three lap dances, three songs. 565 00:25:35,621 --> 00:25:38,058 It's five or six minutes a song. 566 00:25:38,101 --> 00:25:40,234 That's about 12:25 or so. 567 00:25:40,277 --> 00:25:43,367 Excellent. 12:25, 12:30. 568 00:25:43,411 --> 00:25:45,413 All right. 569 00:25:46,414 --> 00:25:48,503 Here's where I get confused. 570 00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:52,246 If you were so upset over this alleged assault, 571 00:25:52,289 --> 00:25:54,465 why does security camera footage from the bar 572 00:25:54,509 --> 00:25:56,511 show you having a drink 573 00:25:56,555 --> 00:25:59,340 with my client at 1:55 a.m.? 574 00:25:59,383 --> 00:26:01,124 It's barely an hour and a half 575 00:26:01,168 --> 00:26:03,910 afteryou claim he violently raped you. 576 00:26:03,953 --> 00:26:07,000 Really? Do you have a photo of that? 577 00:26:07,043 --> 00:26:09,611 That's impossible. I would never do that. 578 00:26:09,655 --> 00:26:11,700 Isn't this you? 579 00:26:12,701 --> 00:26:14,790 Isn't this Mr. Alexander? 580 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,186 Yes, but maybe that's from another night. 581 00:26:19,229 --> 00:26:21,928 Isn't this date the night in question? 582 00:26:21,971 --> 00:26:24,278 And can you see that this is indicating 583 00:26:24,321 --> 00:26:26,323 that this frame of video was captured 584 00:26:26,367 --> 00:26:28,325 at 1:55 in the morning? 585 00:26:28,369 --> 00:26:30,197 Yes, I can see what's 586 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,155 in the photo, but that doesn't mean that that happened. 587 00:26:32,199 --> 00:26:33,548 I'd like to enter 588 00:26:33,592 --> 00:26:35,376 this still photograph taken from security video 589 00:26:35,419 --> 00:26:37,813 recorded the night of the incident as defense exhibit "A." 590 00:26:37,857 --> 00:26:39,293 So entered.That doesn't mean that 591 00:26:39,336 --> 00:26:40,642 that happened. 592 00:26:40,686 --> 00:26:42,513 That photo was probably doctored. 593 00:26:42,557 --> 00:26:44,515 That... that doesn't mean that that happened. 594 00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:45,734 He probably paid somebody. 595 00:26:45,778 --> 00:26:46,909 Order! Order! Order! 596 00:26:46,953 --> 00:26:48,911 Just because that there is a photo, 597 00:26:48,955 --> 00:26:50,826 it doesn't mean that that happened.Order! Again, we need you 598 00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:54,308 to refrain from speaking until asked a question. 599 00:26:54,351 --> 00:26:57,441 Your Honor, these photographs are accurate and real, 600 00:26:57,485 --> 00:27:00,662 and the security company which monitors the establishment 601 00:27:00,706 --> 00:27:02,795 where Ms. Lee claims this incident took place 602 00:27:02,838 --> 00:27:04,840 will testify to their veracity. 603 00:27:07,495 --> 00:27:11,325 So my question to you, Ms. Lee, is... 604 00:27:11,368 --> 00:27:14,284 is it your normal practice to have drinks with the men 605 00:27:14,328 --> 00:27:17,461 you claimed to have attacked you a mere 90 minutes later? 606 00:27:17,505 --> 00:27:19,072 Your Honor! 607 00:27:19,115 --> 00:27:20,247 Never mind. 608 00:27:20,290 --> 00:27:21,988 I withdraw the question. 609 00:27:22,031 --> 00:27:23,467 Nothing further for this witness. 610 00:27:29,386 --> 00:27:30,736 Well, listen, I need him to take the stand. 611 00:27:30,779 --> 00:27:33,913 We don't have time to prep him. I'll prep Benny. 612 00:27:33,956 --> 00:27:36,829 If we ask the right questions, we should get the right answers. 613 00:27:36,872 --> 00:27:39,353 Thank you. 614 00:27:39,396 --> 00:27:41,094 I think we're gonna be okay. 615 00:27:51,539 --> 00:27:52,975 All rise! 616 00:27:53,019 --> 00:27:55,499 The Honorable Judge McPherson presiding. 617 00:27:57,632 --> 00:28:00,940 Thank you for joining us last minute, Dr. Benson. 618 00:28:00,983 --> 00:28:05,466 Now you just shared with the jury your many degrees 619 00:28:05,509 --> 00:28:07,511 and your academic accomplishments. 620 00:28:07,555 --> 00:28:11,951 But as someone who specializes in psychological trauma, 621 00:28:11,994 --> 00:28:14,867 if I tell you that a woman is raped, 622 00:28:14,910 --> 00:28:18,653 but 90 minutes later she is seen having a drink 623 00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:21,003 with the very man who attacked her, 624 00:28:21,047 --> 00:28:23,092 what would your reaction be? 625 00:28:23,136 --> 00:28:25,094 Well, without knowing anything, 626 00:28:25,138 --> 00:28:27,575 without having met the principals 627 00:28:27,618 --> 00:28:31,579 or read the histories or looked at the forensics, uh, 628 00:28:31,622 --> 00:28:33,494 I would venture a guess and say 629 00:28:33,537 --> 00:28:36,497 it must have been a particularly brutal violation. 630 00:28:38,499 --> 00:28:40,849 Objection. 631 00:28:40,893 --> 00:28:43,417 This last-minute, supposed expert witness 632 00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:44,810 is offering up conjecture 633 00:28:44,853 --> 00:28:46,420 and speculation as testimony. 634 00:28:46,463 --> 00:28:48,465 Objection sustained. 635 00:28:48,509 --> 00:28:50,293 The jury will disregard that answer. 636 00:28:50,337 --> 00:28:51,773 Ask another question, Counselor. 637 00:28:51,817 --> 00:28:53,775 Yes, Your Honor. 638 00:28:53,819 --> 00:28:55,777 Dr. Benson, 639 00:28:55,821 --> 00:28:58,649 putting aside what you think might have happened, 640 00:28:58,693 --> 00:29:01,522 is it unusual for victims 641 00:29:01,565 --> 00:29:05,395 of rape to continue to associate with their attacker 642 00:29:05,439 --> 00:29:07,963 in the hours following the attack? 643 00:29:08,007 --> 00:29:10,444 Well, let me put it this way. 644 00:29:10,487 --> 00:29:12,663 While you wouldn't call it common, 645 00:29:12,707 --> 00:29:15,188 it happens more often than you'd suspect. 646 00:29:15,231 --> 00:29:17,930 And there's a scientific explanation for it. 647 00:29:17,973 --> 00:29:20,062 After brutal trauma, 648 00:29:20,106 --> 00:29:22,630 the victim's brain often defaults 649 00:29:22,673 --> 00:29:24,371 into a kind of survival mode. 650 00:29:24,414 --> 00:29:28,636 The mind focuses on one thing and one thing only 651 00:29:28,679 --> 00:29:30,246 getting through the night 652 00:29:30,290 --> 00:29:32,640 without further incident or harm. 653 00:29:32,683 --> 00:29:35,251 So you make friends with your enemy. 654 00:29:35,295 --> 00:29:37,471 Now, what if I told you 655 00:29:37,514 --> 00:29:39,690 that the victim has no recollection 656 00:29:39,734 --> 00:29:42,737 of continuing to associate with her attacker 657 00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:44,478 in the hours following the rape? 658 00:29:44,521 --> 00:29:46,697 Would, would that shock you? 659 00:29:46,741 --> 00:29:48,961 Not really. I mean, the combination 660 00:29:49,004 --> 00:29:52,703 of trauma and adrenaline creates a condition 661 00:29:52,747 --> 00:29:54,880 where the victim becomes hyper-focused. 662 00:29:54,923 --> 00:29:58,884 Uh, they retain details of the trauma itself 663 00:29:58,927 --> 00:30:01,016 in an especially vivid way, 664 00:30:01,060 --> 00:30:05,673 but the events surrounding it don't get coded into the memory, 665 00:30:05,716 --> 00:30:09,459 because the victim is being controlled by the amygdala, 666 00:30:09,503 --> 00:30:12,593 the survival center of the mind. 667 00:30:12,636 --> 00:30:14,682 It's working like hell 668 00:30:14,725 --> 00:30:17,293 to normalize something that's not normal. 669 00:30:17,337 --> 00:30:20,253 So the memory, for all intents and purposes, 670 00:30:20,296 --> 00:30:22,385 gets turned off. 671 00:30:22,429 --> 00:30:25,606 And if I were to tell you 672 00:30:25,649 --> 00:30:27,608 that the victim took three days 673 00:30:27,651 --> 00:30:30,741 to report what happened to her to the police? 674 00:30:30,785 --> 00:30:32,831 Yeah, again, pretty standard stuff. 675 00:30:32,874 --> 00:30:35,355 I mean... but trust me. 676 00:30:35,398 --> 00:30:37,357 For those 72 hours, 677 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,663 the victim is fighting with him or herself 678 00:30:39,707 --> 00:30:43,232 over whether what they think happened really happened. 679 00:30:43,276 --> 00:30:46,627 And to be clear, if it hadn't really happened, 680 00:30:46,670 --> 00:30:48,847 they wouldn't have been fighting with themselves. 681 00:30:48,890 --> 00:30:51,023 Thank you. No further questions. 682 00:30:51,066 --> 00:30:52,459 Oh, my God, Marissa! 683 00:30:52,502 --> 00:30:53,721 We got a green one! 684 00:30:53,764 --> 00:30:55,679 We got a green one! 685 00:30:55,723 --> 00:30:57,768 Will you two keep it down, please? 686 00:30:57,812 --> 00:30:59,901 Dr. Benson, 687 00:30:59,945 --> 00:31:01,772 do you know Jessica Lee? 688 00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:04,079 Not really. I think that's her there. 689 00:31:04,123 --> 00:31:05,820 Have you ever met Jessica Lee? 690 00:31:05,864 --> 00:31:07,300 No. 691 00:31:07,343 --> 00:31:08,692 Do you know my client? 692 00:31:08,736 --> 00:31:11,565 I know ofhim. We've never met. 693 00:31:11,608 --> 00:31:13,567 So, then, do you have any proof 694 00:31:13,610 --> 00:31:16,309 that this so-called trauma actually even occurred? 695 00:31:16,352 --> 00:31:18,702 It seems to me that, 696 00:31:18,746 --> 00:31:21,618 in this case, the only window we have 697 00:31:21,662 --> 00:31:23,664 into what mighthave happened that night 698 00:31:23,707 --> 00:31:25,361 is a security photo 699 00:31:25,405 --> 00:31:27,015 of the principals 700 00:31:27,059 --> 00:31:28,582 sharing a drink 701 00:31:28,625 --> 00:31:32,020 shortly after this trauma supposedly occurred. 702 00:31:32,064 --> 00:31:34,153 Well, as I explained...Oh, I'm sorry. 703 00:31:34,196 --> 00:31:37,199 I must have missed it. Did your explanation suggest 704 00:31:37,243 --> 00:31:41,334 that, because they were having a drink, she must have been raped? 705 00:31:42,378 --> 00:31:43,945 Of course not. 706 00:31:43,989 --> 00:31:47,688 So, then, what does your testimony prove? 707 00:31:51,866 --> 00:31:53,650 We lost our green. 708 00:31:58,699 --> 00:32:00,396 Hi. Can I help you? 709 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,833 Yeah, I'm actually looking for the owner. Tara Atkins? 710 00:32:02,877 --> 00:32:04,574 Tara? 711 00:32:04,618 --> 00:32:06,707 Hi. I'm Danny James. 712 00:32:06,750 --> 00:32:09,057 I'm an investigator working for Jessica Lee? 713 00:32:09,101 --> 00:32:11,190 Perhaps you've read about her? 714 00:32:11,233 --> 00:32:13,670 She's suing Nathan Alexander. 715 00:32:15,498 --> 00:32:17,500 What does that have to do with me? 716 00:32:17,544 --> 00:32:19,372 Well, I know that you worked for Nathan 717 00:32:19,415 --> 00:32:22,766 and his then-wife briefly, and that it ended abruptly. 718 00:32:22,810 --> 00:32:25,682 I just wanted to ask you about that. 719 00:32:25,726 --> 00:32:27,554 I honestly don't have anything to say. 720 00:32:27,597 --> 00:32:29,773 This is my place of business. 721 00:32:29,817 --> 00:32:31,384 I'd appreciate it if you'd go now. 722 00:32:31,427 --> 00:32:32,907 Was it him? 723 00:32:32,951 --> 00:32:34,778 Did Nathan attack you? 724 00:32:34,822 --> 00:32:36,215 Don't make me call the police. 725 00:32:36,258 --> 00:32:39,261 Did he pay you to keep quiet? 726 00:32:39,305 --> 00:32:41,089 Is that where you got the start-up money 727 00:32:41,133 --> 00:32:42,830 to open this store? 728 00:32:42,873 --> 00:32:45,615 I wish I could help you, but there's nothing I can do. 729 00:32:45,659 --> 00:32:47,878 I really need you to leave. 730 00:32:47,922 --> 00:32:50,881 If it's the NDA that's inhibiting you, 731 00:32:50,925 --> 00:32:53,058 I work with a team of really great lawyers, 732 00:32:53,101 --> 00:32:55,974 and I'm sure they can figure out a way around it. 733 00:32:57,236 --> 00:32:59,238 If you change your mind. 734 00:33:07,289 --> 00:33:09,030 Mr. Alexander, do you deny 735 00:33:09,074 --> 00:33:10,901 being at the Maverick Club on the night in question? 736 00:33:10,945 --> 00:33:12,164 I do not. 737 00:33:12,207 --> 00:33:14,340 Do you deny that you and Ms. Lee 738 00:33:14,383 --> 00:33:16,385 engaged in intimate behavior 739 00:33:16,429 --> 00:33:17,691 at some point past midnight 740 00:33:17,734 --> 00:33:20,215 in what's referred to as the Champagne Room? 741 00:33:20,259 --> 00:33:21,608 I do not. 742 00:33:21,651 --> 00:33:23,827 Did you rape Ms. Lee? 743 00:33:25,438 --> 00:33:28,049 No. 744 00:33:28,093 --> 00:33:31,052 Not that I'm aware of. 745 00:33:31,096 --> 00:33:33,576 My sense was that everyone involved 746 00:33:33,620 --> 00:33:35,578 was having a very nice time. 747 00:33:35,622 --> 00:33:37,972 Mr. Alexander, 748 00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:40,540 what's a guy like you doing in a strip club? 749 00:33:40,583 --> 00:33:43,891 Looking at naked women mostly. 750 00:33:43,934 --> 00:33:46,676 Look, 751 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,461 you probably won't like this answer, 752 00:33:48,504 --> 00:33:51,594 but I'm very fond of women. 753 00:33:51,638 --> 00:33:54,597 And at the risk of sounding like some kind of Neanderthal, 754 00:33:54,641 --> 00:33:59,080 being able to spend time around a woman who is undressed, 755 00:33:59,124 --> 00:34:01,343 that's a pretty terrific way to end one's day. 756 00:34:01,387 --> 00:34:04,085 Now, I know that, for a lot of men, 757 00:34:04,129 --> 00:34:06,696 that happens within the context of a relationship 758 00:34:06,740 --> 00:34:09,221 marriage, boyfriend, girlfriend 759 00:34:09,264 --> 00:34:12,267 and I've tried that, but it takes time 760 00:34:12,311 --> 00:34:14,095 and it takes energy. 761 00:34:14,139 --> 00:34:16,619 And I'm sort of a well-known figure in this city, 762 00:34:16,663 --> 00:34:19,579 so it also means I need to have my guard up 763 00:34:19,622 --> 00:34:22,582 because not every woman I meet is solely interested 764 00:34:22,625 --> 00:34:24,671 in getting to know me better. 765 00:34:24,714 --> 00:34:28,370 So, for me, a gentlemen's club, 766 00:34:28,414 --> 00:34:30,720 on a transactional level, they make great sense. 767 00:34:30,764 --> 00:34:33,462 I pay my money. I meet some nice women, 768 00:34:33,506 --> 00:34:35,203 and if I never see them again 769 00:34:35,247 --> 00:34:36,596 or they never see me again, 770 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:38,685 neither one of us is surprised or disappointed. 771 00:34:38,728 --> 00:34:40,513 He has them in the palm of his hand. 772 00:34:40,556 --> 00:34:43,951 No one is shocked. No one's surprised. 773 00:34:43,994 --> 00:34:47,215 They're too busy admiring his imitation of honesty. 774 00:34:47,259 --> 00:34:51,132 Why did you ask Ms. Lee to go to the Champagne Room? 775 00:34:51,176 --> 00:34:53,787 I didn't. She suggested it. 776 00:34:53,830 --> 00:34:55,963 And it's your testimony that everything that happened 777 00:34:56,006 --> 00:34:57,530 in that room was consensual? 778 00:34:57,573 --> 00:34:59,575 That was certainly my impression. 779 00:34:59,619 --> 00:35:02,012 I think she knew who I was. 780 00:35:03,623 --> 00:35:06,669 How horrible could it have been? 781 00:35:06,713 --> 00:35:11,109 I mean, I didn't run away and neither did she. 782 00:35:11,152 --> 00:35:14,199 We had drinks together later that night. 783 00:35:17,071 --> 00:35:19,247 Is there anything you want to say? 784 00:35:19,291 --> 00:35:23,251 Anything you want to apologize for? 785 00:35:26,254 --> 00:35:29,518 No. 786 00:35:29,562 --> 00:35:34,175 This has been enormously embarrassing 787 00:35:34,219 --> 00:35:36,090 and painful for me. 788 00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:42,227 In my work, I ask people to trust me. 789 00:35:42,270 --> 00:35:45,143 Ever since Ms. Lee's assertions 790 00:35:45,186 --> 00:35:47,667 were made public, 791 00:35:47,710 --> 00:35:51,323 it's become much harder to do. 792 00:35:51,366 --> 00:35:53,281 No. 793 00:35:53,325 --> 00:35:55,501 I have nothing to apologize for. 794 00:35:55,544 --> 00:35:57,720 No further questions. 795 00:35:57,764 --> 00:35:59,722 All right, let's break here for today. 796 00:35:59,766 --> 00:36:01,985 We'll pick this up tomorrow with the plaintiff's cross. 797 00:36:02,029 --> 00:36:03,813 This court is adjourned. 798 00:36:03,857 --> 00:36:05,641 It is the "he said, she said" case 799 00:36:05,685 --> 00:36:07,861 I always feared it would be. 800 00:36:07,904 --> 00:36:10,733 Unfortunately, the "he" is a very convincing fellow, 801 00:36:10,777 --> 00:36:13,301 even though I'm certain 802 00:36:13,345 --> 00:36:15,129 he's lying through his teeth. 803 00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:17,218 Funny. Based on the women I've been talking to, 804 00:36:17,262 --> 00:36:19,307 it should be a "he said, they said" case. 805 00:36:19,351 --> 00:36:21,048 What do you mean? 806 00:36:21,091 --> 00:36:22,571 Are you suggesting there are others? 807 00:36:22,615 --> 00:36:25,008 'Cause that would change everything. 808 00:36:25,052 --> 00:36:26,619 Tara Atkins, Janell Thompson, 809 00:36:26,662 --> 00:36:28,447 Emily Webber, Amelia Lopez, Tracy Walker. 810 00:36:28,490 --> 00:36:32,059 The list goes on. All women I strongly suspect 811 00:36:32,102 --> 00:36:34,322 were raped by Nathan Alexander. 812 00:36:34,366 --> 00:36:36,019 Well, let's get 'em in here, 813 00:36:36,063 --> 00:36:37,543 and-and Benny can put 'em on the stand. 814 00:36:37,586 --> 00:36:40,589 They won't testify. They've all been paid off 815 00:36:40,633 --> 00:36:42,025 and signed nondisclosure agreements. 816 00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:44,376 He gives them $2 million and threatens 817 00:36:44,419 --> 00:36:47,248 to sue them for twice that if they ever breathe a word. 818 00:36:47,292 --> 00:36:50,120 It's so unfair. How do you fight against someone 819 00:36:50,164 --> 00:36:51,731 who has all the money in the world? 820 00:36:51,774 --> 00:36:53,559 Well if it makes you feel any better, he doesn't have 821 00:36:53,602 --> 00:36:54,864 all the money in the world 822 00:36:54,908 --> 00:36:56,214 'cause he gave half to his ex-wife. 823 00:36:58,303 --> 00:37:00,261 And did he make her sign an NDA? 824 00:37:00,305 --> 00:37:03,308 It was a divorce. A divorce he wanted. 825 00:37:03,351 --> 00:37:05,875 And how does she feel about her ex? 826 00:37:05,919 --> 00:37:07,268 Why do you ask? 827 00:37:07,312 --> 00:37:10,445 Mr. Colón, are you ready to commence 828 00:37:10,489 --> 00:37:12,926 cross-examination of Mr. Alexander? 829 00:37:12,969 --> 00:37:14,797 Yes, I am, Your Honor. 830 00:37:14,841 --> 00:37:19,498 Mr. Alexander, I really just have one question for you. 831 00:37:19,541 --> 00:37:23,284 Now, you testified under oath yesterday 832 00:37:23,328 --> 00:37:26,200 that you did not rape my client. 833 00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:27,680 That's correct. Okay. 834 00:37:27,723 --> 00:37:31,292 So here's my question 835 00:37:31,336 --> 00:37:33,555 have you ever raped anyone? 836 00:37:40,388 --> 00:37:43,739 I'm sorry, I didn't hear your answer. 837 00:37:43,783 --> 00:37:47,613 No. Of course not. I've never raped anyone. 838 00:37:47,656 --> 00:37:51,312 Ah. Well, then I have no more questions 839 00:37:51,356 --> 00:37:52,487 for this witness. 840 00:37:52,531 --> 00:37:54,402 I would, however, 841 00:37:54,446 --> 00:37:57,144 like to call a rebuttal witness at this time. 842 00:37:57,187 --> 00:37:59,712 With your court's permission, 843 00:37:59,755 --> 00:38:03,411 the plaintiff would like to call Ms. Tara Atkins to the stand. 844 00:38:03,455 --> 00:38:05,544 Objection, Your Honor. The defense was not made aware 845 00:38:05,587 --> 00:38:07,894 of this witness. This is the first we're hearing about it. 846 00:38:07,937 --> 00:38:09,809 My apologies, Your Honor. 847 00:38:09,852 --> 00:38:13,029 We're calling this witness to refute Mr. Alexander's claim 848 00:38:13,073 --> 00:38:16,859 just now that, and I quote, "I have never raped anyone." 849 00:38:16,903 --> 00:38:18,470 Ms. Atkins is prepared 850 00:38:18,513 --> 00:38:20,907 to speak on that claim. 851 00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:23,170 That seems reasonable and relevant to me. 852 00:38:23,213 --> 00:38:24,954 The witness may testify. 853 00:38:24,998 --> 00:38:27,914 Your Honor, the defense would like to request a short recess, 854 00:38:27,957 --> 00:38:29,350 so we may prepare for this witness. 855 00:38:29,394 --> 00:38:30,873 That seems reasonable as well. 856 00:38:30,917 --> 00:38:33,354 Let's take a half hour break and resume trial at that time. 857 00:38:34,703 --> 00:38:37,967 Ms. Atkins? Tara Atkins? 858 00:38:38,011 --> 00:38:39,404 Come in. 859 00:38:42,537 --> 00:38:44,757 I've asked my legal team to sit in. 860 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,628 You don't have a problem with that, do you? 861 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,546 Of course not. 862 00:38:56,290 --> 00:39:00,381 Just to be clear, in exchange for the $2 million 863 00:39:00,425 --> 00:39:01,600 my client provided you, 864 00:39:01,643 --> 00:39:04,429 you signed a nondisclosure agreement. 865 00:39:04,472 --> 00:39:07,649 If you testify to the events which I suspect 866 00:39:07,693 --> 00:39:09,956 you'll be asked about on the stand, 867 00:39:09,999 --> 00:39:11,174 you'll be violating that agreement 868 00:39:11,218 --> 00:39:13,568 and it will cost you $4 million. 869 00:39:13,612 --> 00:39:16,963 $4 million I'm reasonably sure you don't have. 870 00:39:17,006 --> 00:39:19,008 Yes, I'm well aware of that. 871 00:39:19,052 --> 00:39:21,794 I want to be certain 872 00:39:21,837 --> 00:39:25,145 that you understand how serious this is. 873 00:39:25,188 --> 00:39:27,234 You signed a legal document. 874 00:39:27,277 --> 00:39:29,497 My client is prepared to garnish your wages 875 00:39:29,541 --> 00:39:32,457 for the rest of your life if you violate it. 876 00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:34,197 Well, 877 00:39:34,241 --> 00:39:37,505 not if I pay up front, right? 878 00:39:39,507 --> 00:39:43,250 You're prepared to pay Mr. Alexander $4 million 879 00:39:43,293 --> 00:39:44,512 right now? 880 00:39:44,556 --> 00:39:46,732 Not that it's any of your business, 881 00:39:46,775 --> 00:39:49,474 but a wealthy benefactor has stepped forward 882 00:39:49,517 --> 00:39:52,651 and is willing to finance this transaction for Ms. Atkins. 883 00:39:54,522 --> 00:39:56,481 Really? 884 00:39:56,524 --> 00:39:58,483 Might I ask who? 885 00:39:58,526 --> 00:40:01,311 Well, I suppose it won't do any harm. 886 00:40:01,355 --> 00:40:03,401 The benefactor is Beth Alexander, 887 00:40:03,444 --> 00:40:04,880 your client's ex-wife. 888 00:40:04,924 --> 00:40:07,317 And she asked me to ask you if you wouldn't mind 889 00:40:07,361 --> 00:40:09,363 forwarding a message to Nathan. 890 00:40:09,407 --> 00:40:13,672 She wanted him to know she really loved that horse. 891 00:40:17,763 --> 00:40:20,505 We, the jury, find the defendant, 892 00:40:20,548 --> 00:40:22,724 Nathan Alexander... 893 00:40:24,857 --> 00:40:28,643 ...liable for assault and intentional infliction 894 00:40:28,687 --> 00:40:31,254 of emotional distress. 895 00:40:31,298 --> 00:40:34,475 In addition, we, the jury, award compensatory damages 896 00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:36,869 of $1 million 897 00:40:36,912 --> 00:40:39,306 to the plaintiff. 898 00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:43,049 And, in addition, we, the jury, also award 899 00:40:43,092 --> 00:40:45,486 punitive damages 900 00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:47,923 of $25 million 901 00:40:47,967 --> 00:40:51,623 to the plaintiff. 902 00:40:51,666 --> 00:40:53,494 This court thanks you for your service. 903 00:40:53,538 --> 00:40:55,540 Court is adjourned. 904 00:40:55,583 --> 00:40:57,542 Thank you, Dr. Bull. 905 00:40:57,585 --> 00:40:59,674 I honestly don't know what to say. 906 00:41:03,983 --> 00:41:05,550 I know this really wasn't about the money for you, 907 00:41:05,593 --> 00:41:07,247 but trust me, with a verdict like that, 908 00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:09,205 the D.A.'s gonna want to reopen this case. 909 00:41:09,249 --> 00:41:13,209 And I'd be honored to be there with you when it happens. 910 00:41:13,253 --> 00:41:16,822 I wouldn't have it any other way. 911 00:41:16,865 --> 00:41:20,521 You know, there is a line of women over there 912 00:41:20,565 --> 00:41:23,263 who want to tell you how proud they are of you. 913 00:41:26,701 --> 00:41:30,009 I think I owe everything to you. 914 00:41:30,052 --> 00:41:31,967 Don't be ridiculous. 915 00:41:33,621 --> 00:41:37,320 We girls have to stick together. Yes. 916 00:41:37,364 --> 00:41:40,759 Thank you so much. Mmm. 917 00:41:44,589 --> 00:41:46,547 Anna? 918 00:41:48,636 --> 00:41:52,597 It's me, it's-it's your dad. 919 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,860 I've been calling and texting 920 00:41:54,903 --> 00:41:58,211 for the last three days. 921 00:41:58,254 --> 00:42:00,692 I called the phone company this afternoon 922 00:42:00,735 --> 00:42:03,738 to find out that you blocked me. 923 00:42:06,219 --> 00:42:08,090 Anna, I... 924 00:42:08,134 --> 00:42:10,353 I just want to talk to you. 925 00:42:11,703 --> 00:42:14,706 If you're in there, would you open the door, 926 00:42:14,749 --> 00:42:16,751 please? 927 00:42:21,756 --> 00:42:24,542 I love you, kiddo. 928 00:42:29,242 --> 00:42:31,244 Captioning sponsored by CBS62413

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