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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,060 --> 00:00:07,979 there's this group called Pink Floyd who 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:11,660 got what the only time I saw Syd Barrett 3 00:00:07,980 --> 00:00:14,039 was when he popped into the Abbey Road 4 00:00:11,660 --> 00:00:16,829 session swimmers are doing atom heart 5 00:00:14,039 --> 00:00:20,849 mother and he kind of spun round a 6 00:00:16,829 --> 00:00:22,948 couple of times in slow motion and then 7 00:00:20,850 --> 00:00:25,050 went out again and that was very as all 8 00:00:22,949 --> 00:00:27,150 I ever thought of him he'd gone he was 9 00:00:25,050 --> 00:00:30,539 still looking the same but he was 10 00:00:27,149 --> 00:00:32,780 somewhere else we carried on to musical 11 00:00:30,539 --> 00:00:35,160 careers at the same time we took 12 00:00:32,780 --> 00:00:38,489 interstellar overdrive' outside London 13 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,959 people hated it the hand thing you know 14 00:00:38,488 --> 00:00:42,509 my hands felt like two balloons is 15 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:45,079 that's from being delirious as a child 16 00:00:42,509 --> 00:00:49,229 but this tell us this like everything 17 00:00:45,079 --> 00:00:50,969 receding there is no pain you I received 18 00:00:49,229 --> 00:00:53,038 happen to me and so and it came back 19 00:00:50,969 --> 00:00:57,239 slowly as I sat and played the piano but 20 00:00:53,039 --> 00:01:00,859 I think good cut you know is this is a 21 00:00:57,238 --> 00:01:00,858 fine line I'm walking here 22 00:01:03,289 --> 00:01:09,019 one bit of riff from another bit of it's 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,790 there's hundreds of different ways you 24 00:01:09,019 --> 00:01:12,289 can do something some have a little bit 25 00:01:10,790 --> 00:01:13,580 of magic to them but the ones that do 26 00:01:12,290 --> 00:01:17,750 have that bit of magic to them it's 27 00:01:13,579 --> 00:01:20,500 obvious to people arrest even just that 28 00:01:17,750 --> 00:01:22,819 piece of music as an emotional Porter 29 00:01:20,500 --> 00:01:25,149 that's what we're struggling to find all 30 00:01:22,819 --> 00:01:25,148 the time 31 00:01:25,469 --> 00:01:32,549 [Music] 32 00:01:34,700 --> 00:01:39,379 Pink Floyd grew from friendships forged 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,810 in the 1960s in the university town of 34 00:01:39,379 --> 00:01:43,969 Cambridge Britain was then in the group 35 00:01:41,810 --> 00:01:46,640 of psychedelia and the hippie scene as 36 00:01:43,969 --> 00:01:49,250 well popular music was undergoing a huge 37 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:53,689 transformation and the young Syd Barrett 38 00:01:49,250 --> 00:01:56,269 was wide open to these influences first 39 00:01:53,689 --> 00:02:00,620 time I met Syd was at a Saturday morning 40 00:01:56,269 --> 00:02:04,340 art class in Cambridge I was 9 or 10 and 41 00:02:00,620 --> 00:02:06,560 he was 8 or 9 we became close you know 42 00:02:04,340 --> 00:02:08,780 when we were teenagers talking about 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,849 smoking dope but not doing it you know 44 00:02:08,780 --> 00:02:12,259 in those days I would go long after to 45 00:02:10,849 --> 00:02:14,299 SIDS after school and he'd be in there 46 00:02:12,259 --> 00:02:16,280 painting away and so they made such play 47 00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:18,110 and chat and do whatever he was a great 48 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,060 rhythm player a terrific sense of time 49 00:02:18,110 --> 00:02:22,250 and you know and then he sort of took 50 00:02:20,060 --> 00:02:24,780 that and you know took it in directions 51 00:02:22,250 --> 00:02:27,969 that no one could have imagined really 52 00:02:24,780 --> 00:02:31,000 [Music] 53 00:02:27,969 --> 00:02:35,199 I said was the charmer when I first met 54 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:40,990 him he was the charismatic handsome 55 00:02:35,199 --> 00:02:44,530 jolly slightly intimidating - what the 56 00:02:40,990 --> 00:02:46,420 one that everyone focused on most people 57 00:02:44,530 --> 00:02:48,400 including myself had certain jealousies 58 00:02:46,419 --> 00:02:51,189 of what a bright light appeared to him 59 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:55,689 on the scene he was physically beautiful 60 00:02:51,189 --> 00:02:57,909 witty funny the way he talked the way he 61 00:02:55,689 --> 00:03:00,310 walked he was much loved by pretty much 62 00:02:57,909 --> 00:03:02,680 everyone around him I don't actually 63 00:03:00,310 --> 00:03:06,370 remember when I met Syd I don't remember 64 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:08,730 where I met Syd just suddenly he was 65 00:03:06,370 --> 00:03:11,469 part of my life 66 00:03:08,729 --> 00:03:14,119 the whole Pink Floyd suddenly became 67 00:03:11,469 --> 00:03:18,310 part of my life 68 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:21,110 [Music] 69 00:03:18,310 --> 00:03:23,930 the name Pink Floyd first began to 70 00:03:21,110 --> 00:03:25,670 appear in January 1965 when the group 71 00:03:23,930 --> 00:03:28,189 was then known as the Pink Floyd blues 72 00:03:25,669 --> 00:03:30,019 band the band featured a five piece 73 00:03:28,189 --> 00:03:32,000 liner formed from a group of friends 74 00:03:30,020 --> 00:03:34,630 from Cambridge in England and originally 75 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:37,400 included Bob Close on guitar and vocals 76 00:03:34,629 --> 00:03:39,079 Bob didn't stick around for too long and 77 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,989 neither did the Blues element of the 78 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,790 name by the summer of 1965 the band was 79 00:03:41,989 --> 00:03:46,370 slimmed down to a four-piece and the 80 00:03:43,789 --> 00:03:48,349 name too was reduced to match for the 81 00:03:46,370 --> 00:03:51,110 next couple of years the band will be 82 00:03:48,349 --> 00:03:52,459 known as the Pink Floyd have you heard 83 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:54,110 the early things he kind of thought well 84 00:03:52,459 --> 00:03:57,069 maybe it's the stones or and he 85 00:03:54,110 --> 00:03:59,840 recognized his voice Roger's voice but 86 00:03:57,069 --> 00:04:02,060 it's not a Pink Floyd sound yet it 87 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:06,289 needed me to leave to do that you know 88 00:04:02,060 --> 00:04:07,879 that was quite an important step I was 89 00:04:06,289 --> 00:04:11,299 involved with this organization called 90 00:04:07,879 --> 00:04:14,209 the London Free School and I was also at 91 00:04:11,300 --> 00:04:17,660 the time working as the head of the 92 00:04:14,209 --> 00:04:19,399 London office of Elektra Records and the 93 00:04:17,660 --> 00:04:21,079 guy who was the leader of the London 94 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:23,629 Free School or not there was no official 95 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:25,550 leader but the real figure had the real 96 00:04:23,629 --> 00:04:28,219 sort of center of energy was John 97 00:04:25,550 --> 00:04:31,520 Hopkins I was happy it was a sort of 98 00:04:28,220 --> 00:04:33,350 melting pot of local people some of whom 99 00:04:31,519 --> 00:04:36,469 were black activists and some of whom 100 00:04:33,350 --> 00:04:39,650 were white activists there's a lot of 101 00:04:36,470 --> 00:04:41,000 interest in housing and smattering of 102 00:04:39,649 --> 00:04:47,779 professional people with different 103 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:50,240 skills and among the the people who set 104 00:04:47,779 --> 00:04:53,659 up lung free school were Andrew King and 105 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:55,340 Peter Jenner who later on turned out to 106 00:04:53,660 --> 00:04:57,860 be the first managers of the Pink Floyd 107 00:04:55,339 --> 00:04:58,688 they said that there is this group that 108 00:04:57,860 --> 00:05:01,509 they knew 109 00:04:58,689 --> 00:05:05,619 they'd like me to hear a demo tape and 110 00:05:01,509 --> 00:05:08,379 maybe take it to Elektra and I was 111 00:05:05,619 --> 00:05:10,149 amazed I thought they were great so I 112 00:05:08,379 --> 00:05:14,338 very excitedly took this tape to the 113 00:05:10,149 --> 00:05:14,338 head of Elektra who listened and said 114 00:05:14,369 --> 00:05:25,360 and from that point I made a deal with 115 00:05:20,639 --> 00:05:27,579 the general King that I would try and 116 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:31,989 find him a record deal during the autumn 117 00:05:27,579 --> 00:05:34,569 of 66 I continued to see the floyd on a 118 00:05:31,988 --> 00:05:37,328 regular basis they became the regular 119 00:05:34,569 --> 00:05:39,218 group playing these benefit concert that 120 00:05:37,329 --> 00:05:41,860 they put on in our efforts to raise 121 00:05:39,218 --> 00:05:44,439 money for the London free school at the 122 00:05:41,860 --> 00:05:49,959 church hall at Palace square we felt if 123 00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:52,929 we could bottle that and put it on a 124 00:05:49,959 --> 00:05:56,588 weekly basis that people would come the 125 00:05:52,928 --> 00:05:58,748 UFO Club was born and although it had a 126 00:05:56,588 --> 00:06:01,528 fairly short life it made a certain dent 127 00:05:58,749 --> 00:06:01,528 on the culture 128 00:06:01,689 --> 00:06:07,689 by 1967 after the obligatory personnel 129 00:06:05,439 --> 00:06:09,939 shuffles Syd Barrett fronted a band 130 00:06:07,689 --> 00:06:12,250 which moved to London and now comprised 131 00:06:09,939 --> 00:06:14,230 himself on lead vocal and guitar Roger 132 00:06:12,250 --> 00:06:17,649 Waters on bass Rick Wright on the 133 00:06:14,230 --> 00:06:19,569 keyboards and Nick Mason on the drums we 134 00:06:17,649 --> 00:06:21,819 always had this notion that when we hit 135 00:06:19,569 --> 00:06:23,829 learned enough that we would start a 136 00:06:21,819 --> 00:06:25,449 band together and as it happened by the 137 00:06:23,829 --> 00:06:27,099 time he arrived I was already playing 138 00:06:25,449 --> 00:06:30,099 with a few other people so he came 139 00:06:27,100 --> 00:06:31,660 joined in fact Nichkhun wrote with a 140 00:06:30,100 --> 00:06:33,520 sort of permanent once there were a 141 00:06:31,660 --> 00:06:36,270 bunch of other people who were all at 142 00:06:33,519 --> 00:06:38,439 the Regent Street Poly I would go to 143 00:06:36,269 --> 00:06:42,009 rehearsals that were out of the flats 144 00:06:38,439 --> 00:06:44,319 and performances and obviously there was 145 00:06:42,009 --> 00:06:45,560 something special happening with them at 146 00:06:44,319 --> 00:06:47,449 the same time 147 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:50,990 [Music] 148 00:06:47,449 --> 00:06:53,059 by early 1967 Floyd were huge news on 149 00:06:50,990 --> 00:06:54,590 the thriving underground scene the band 150 00:06:53,059 --> 00:06:56,900 now favored the unstructured 151 00:06:54,589 --> 00:06:59,058 improvisations which were the basis for 152 00:06:56,899 --> 00:07:00,498 long extended freak-outs which were then 153 00:06:59,059 --> 00:07:02,719 highly fashionable with the trendy 154 00:07:00,499 --> 00:07:04,669 london-based crowd they were known as 155 00:07:02,718 --> 00:07:06,680 the first psychedelic band on the London 156 00:07:04,668 --> 00:07:08,269 scene and there was a real buzz about 157 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,650 them and there was a real feeling that 158 00:07:08,269 --> 00:07:13,938 they were pushing back the frontiers of 159 00:07:09,649 --> 00:07:15,348 popular music by June the Floyd had 160 00:07:13,939 --> 00:07:18,689 found a management company called 161 00:07:15,348 --> 00:07:22,300 Blackhill enterprises to represent them 162 00:07:18,689 --> 00:07:24,129 [Music] 163 00:07:22,300 --> 00:07:27,139 [Applause] 164 00:07:24,129 --> 00:07:29,689 our Elaine the first Pink Floyd single 165 00:07:27,139 --> 00:07:31,788 provided a surprise chart hit although 166 00:07:29,689 --> 00:07:33,139 in later years the band did admit that 167 00:07:31,788 --> 00:07:35,300 there might have been an element of 168 00:07:33,139 --> 00:07:38,718 unofficial sharp ringing to help the 169 00:07:35,300 --> 00:07:41,509 single on its way I got them a deal with 170 00:07:38,718 --> 00:07:44,389 Polydor and so they were playing at the 171 00:07:41,509 --> 00:07:46,009 UFO Club at the same time that I was I 172 00:07:44,389 --> 00:07:48,860 brought somebody from Palo tour down to 173 00:07:46,009 --> 00:07:51,889 see them they loved them I said yes here 174 00:07:48,860 --> 00:07:54,050 you go and we set up I set up my 175 00:07:51,889 --> 00:07:58,338 production company for the purpose of 176 00:07:54,050 --> 00:08:00,468 recording the Floyd and the contracts 177 00:07:58,338 --> 00:08:06,259 were all drawn up lawyers were looking 178 00:08:00,468 --> 00:08:08,598 at it back and forth etc etc and in the 179 00:08:06,259 --> 00:08:12,129 middle of all of this Jenner and King 180 00:08:08,598 --> 00:08:17,329 signed on with a new agent for them 181 00:08:12,129 --> 00:08:20,810 Brian Morrison agency and by this time 182 00:08:17,329 --> 00:08:25,430 we were ready to go in the studio for 183 00:08:20,810 --> 00:08:27,918 polidore and in fact that evening that 184 00:08:25,430 --> 00:08:30,800 they made the deal with these agents we 185 00:08:27,918 --> 00:08:37,458 were rehearsing in a small demo studio 186 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:38,959 at Pala doors office and Jenner rang me 187 00:08:37,458 --> 00:08:41,568 up and said look the agents would like 188 00:08:38,958 --> 00:08:42,799 to come down and meet the group and just 189 00:08:41,568 --> 00:08:45,849 hear what you're up to 190 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:51,889 you know and they came down and 191 00:08:45,850 --> 00:08:54,589 immediately I felt threatened and there 192 00:08:51,889 --> 00:08:55,818 was I knew that nothing good was gonna 193 00:08:54,589 --> 00:08:59,060 come out of this as far as I was 194 00:08:55,818 --> 00:09:00,799 concerned next day I got a call from 195 00:08:59,059 --> 00:09:02,929 Jenner to say that 196 00:09:00,799 --> 00:09:05,120 they've been very impressed with Arnold 197 00:09:02,929 --> 00:09:06,528 Layne we played the song for them I 198 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,870 thought it was great 199 00:09:06,528 --> 00:09:10,939 and they could get us a much better deal 200 00:09:08,870 --> 00:09:11,860 with EMI than the deal we had with 201 00:09:10,940 --> 00:09:16,490 Polidori 202 00:09:11,860 --> 00:09:18,110 and I was crushed of course because of 203 00:09:16,490 --> 00:09:21,759 that pollen or was my deal that was 204 00:09:18,110 --> 00:09:21,759 going through my production company and 205 00:09:22,179 --> 00:09:28,489 but they wanted me to produce the single 206 00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:30,610 and I said well I'll do that I'll do 207 00:09:28,490 --> 00:09:33,589 that 208 00:09:30,610 --> 00:09:35,659 but I want to be assured that I'll be 209 00:09:33,589 --> 00:09:40,000 the producer of the album that falls the 210 00:09:35,659 --> 00:09:42,259 single and Brian Morris and said well 211 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:45,799 EMI doesn't like to be tied down like 212 00:09:42,259 --> 00:09:47,480 that he came to me and he said where is 213 00:09:45,799 --> 00:09:52,250 this group called Pink Floyd because 214 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:54,170 what pink what so he said Pink Floyd bar 215 00:09:52,250 --> 00:09:58,370 they said well he said that they're 216 00:09:54,169 --> 00:10:00,919 appearing at you phone I said you phone 217 00:09:58,370 --> 00:10:02,120 what do you fire so then he told me 218 00:10:00,919 --> 00:10:04,639 there's an underground with a freak out 219 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,080 being topical Road you know they said 220 00:10:04,639 --> 00:10:11,449 would you would you like to go and see 221 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:13,009 them so I thought well you know if if he 222 00:10:11,450 --> 00:10:15,410 thinks they've got something you know 223 00:10:13,009 --> 00:10:17,958 for recording then it's worth me going 224 00:10:15,409 --> 00:10:20,000 you know which I did Brian and I came 225 00:10:17,958 --> 00:10:23,149 away when had a drink and usable what do 226 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:25,339 you think that well it's not so much the 227 00:10:23,149 --> 00:10:27,789 group very impressive their show it's 228 00:10:25,339 --> 00:10:31,130 the number of people that were their 229 00:10:27,789 --> 00:10:34,159 fans of theirs so I said to Brian yeah 230 00:10:31,129 --> 00:10:36,129 well I am interested somewhat 231 00:10:34,159 --> 00:10:39,829 reluctantly but I didn't that helped 232 00:10:36,129 --> 00:10:40,629 well I do a good job on the single you 233 00:10:39,830 --> 00:10:44,520 know 234 00:10:40,629 --> 00:10:47,470 don't want to keep the team together and 235 00:10:44,519 --> 00:10:49,210 so we went in the studio we made Arnold 236 00:10:47,470 --> 00:10:51,820 Layne and the Beast side Kent in the 237 00:10:49,210 --> 00:10:53,769 current bond Arnold Layne ism is a very 238 00:10:51,820 --> 00:10:56,290 unusual pop record sort of full stop 239 00:10:53,769 --> 00:10:57,939 because when you look at when it was 240 00:10:56,289 --> 00:11:00,789 written I mean you had sort of Ray Davis 241 00:10:57,940 --> 00:11:03,310 doing yourself in English vignettes you 242 00:11:00,789 --> 00:11:05,919 had Bowie who was sort of trying to do a 243 00:11:03,309 --> 00:11:08,619 sort of any newly thing after being a 244 00:11:05,919 --> 00:11:10,419 mod and then you had Syd Barrett coming 245 00:11:08,620 --> 00:11:13,779 in writing about a nikka snatcher 246 00:11:10,419 --> 00:11:19,990 subsequently EMI loved the record signed 247 00:11:13,779 --> 00:11:21,279 them gave them a big contract and said 248 00:11:19,990 --> 00:11:23,470 we're going to use our in-house 249 00:11:21,279 --> 00:11:24,939 producers so thanks very much and that 250 00:11:23,470 --> 00:11:29,980 was the end of my professional 251 00:11:24,940 --> 00:11:33,040 relationship with Floyd the follow-up 252 00:11:29,980 --> 00:11:35,050 single see Emily play also a hit gave 253 00:11:33,039 --> 00:11:37,240 EMI records the confidence to put Pink 254 00:11:35,049 --> 00:11:40,359 Floyd in the studio to record a full 255 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:42,759 album this was to be called Piper at the 256 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:45,970 Gates of Dawn it turned out yes they 257 00:11:42,759 --> 00:11:49,899 were keen to join hear my it would be my 258 00:11:45,970 --> 00:11:51,879 first major signing so therefore we're 259 00:11:49,899 --> 00:11:53,769 going up with it Norman Smith had been 260 00:11:51,879 --> 00:11:55,389 an engineer with the Beatles from the 261 00:11:53,769 --> 00:11:58,230 point where he'd come to EMI to make 262 00:11:55,389 --> 00:12:01,379 demos this was his first record as 263 00:11:58,230 --> 00:12:05,110 full-on producer they had to play me 264 00:12:01,379 --> 00:12:06,730 songs that they had in mind and they 265 00:12:05,110 --> 00:12:09,100 would obviously play it through the way 266 00:12:06,730 --> 00:12:12,580 they knew it and then I would simply 267 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:16,389 analyze what I thought I could improve 268 00:12:12,580 --> 00:12:19,570 to to broaden the audience try to make 269 00:12:16,389 --> 00:12:23,649 them more melodic and to get away from 270 00:12:19,570 --> 00:12:25,780 all this psychedelic business you know 271 00:12:23,649 --> 00:12:30,159 when they played me see enemy play I 272 00:12:25,779 --> 00:12:32,919 thought ah it it struck a note you know 273 00:12:30,159 --> 00:12:35,439 I thought I think I can make a single 274 00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:37,809 out of this which I did and what I did 275 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:40,540 and it was one that I was really able to 276 00:12:37,809 --> 00:12:41,199 dress up in my own way as well also you 277 00:12:40,539 --> 00:12:44,110 know 278 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:47,590 and I thinks it hated it to be honest 279 00:12:44,110 --> 00:12:49,870 with you and Feder I'm sure he did but I 280 00:12:47,590 --> 00:12:50,860 thought things god this is going to 281 00:12:49,870 --> 00:12:55,090 happen 282 00:12:50,860 --> 00:12:59,649 I think this Emily plays is a fantastic 283 00:12:55,090 --> 00:13:01,780 psychedelic single and to be honest it 284 00:12:59,649 --> 00:13:03,009 was it was still quite early in what 285 00:13:01,779 --> 00:13:05,500 what is seen as sort of British 286 00:13:03,009 --> 00:13:06,909 psychedelia I mean then you had everyone 287 00:13:05,500 --> 00:13:10,179 going on Top of the Pops where and they 288 00:13:06,909 --> 00:13:12,279 hastily bought cravats and doing their 289 00:13:10,179 --> 00:13:13,769 versions of it but at that point I mean 290 00:13:12,279 --> 00:13:18,579 you'd had strawberry fields forever 291 00:13:13,769 --> 00:13:19,960 white shaker pale was around but family 292 00:13:18,580 --> 00:13:26,440 pet just comes from another place 293 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:31,389 altogether it's a great subject it has a 294 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:32,920 lovely production sound it has not too 295 00:13:31,389 --> 00:13:35,409 many gimmicks at the time we don't have 296 00:13:32,919 --> 00:13:36,669 huge huge amounts of for example phasing 297 00:13:35,409 --> 00:13:39,399 and those records or things that make 298 00:13:36,669 --> 00:13:43,899 them sound dated it sounds very much of 299 00:13:39,399 --> 00:13:45,789 its time and very much for any time but 300 00:13:43,899 --> 00:13:48,329 about the time see Emily play was riding 301 00:13:45,789 --> 00:13:52,689 high in the charts and since behaviour 302 00:13:48,330 --> 00:13:55,990 deteriorated markedly as it started to 303 00:13:52,690 --> 00:13:57,130 climb up the charts I thought the next 304 00:13:55,990 --> 00:14:02,230 thing is going to happen is trouble the 305 00:13:57,129 --> 00:14:04,149 pots before they went on they actually 306 00:14:02,230 --> 00:14:06,399 went him to makeup I was waiting for 307 00:14:04,149 --> 00:14:08,110 them in their dressing room as soon as 308 00:14:06,399 --> 00:14:11,679 they walked in our source said and he'd 309 00:14:08,110 --> 00:14:14,019 look wonderful so straightaway I made 310 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:17,589 the mistake of saying Syd you look 311 00:14:14,019 --> 00:14:20,429 absolutely wonderful anyway look and he 312 00:14:17,590 --> 00:14:23,710 walked over to the mirror saw himself 313 00:14:20,429 --> 00:14:27,449 and he immediately scuffed up all his 314 00:14:23,710 --> 00:14:31,150 hair got tissues and started wiping off 315 00:14:27,450 --> 00:14:33,520 the the makeup etcetera and I thought 316 00:14:31,149 --> 00:14:38,730 what am I going to do with this guy you 317 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:41,769 know anyway we went on like that and 318 00:14:38,730 --> 00:14:45,700 stood there with his guitar just 319 00:14:41,769 --> 00:14:49,990 dangling didn't even try to play it head 320 00:14:45,700 --> 00:14:52,509 sort of bowed and complete another well 321 00:14:49,990 --> 00:14:54,909 nothing and of course I mean I was 322 00:14:52,509 --> 00:14:58,960 furious and that was the first science 323 00:14:54,909 --> 00:15:01,179 for me mentally something was missing 324 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,940 something was going we did the Pat Boone 325 00:15:01,179 --> 00:15:08,349 show and Pat Boone came on and you know 326 00:15:03,940 --> 00:15:10,210 set alone and what Sid would do is 327 00:15:08,350 --> 00:15:10,778 through every ran through rehearsal we 328 00:15:10,210 --> 00:15:13,930 will rehearse 329 00:15:10,778 --> 00:15:16,659 we were miming to see Emily play or 330 00:15:13,929 --> 00:15:20,979 something I think and through the run 331 00:15:16,659 --> 00:15:22,539 throughs he'd be miming away and then 332 00:15:20,980 --> 00:15:24,339 they'd go okay we'll take it because we 333 00:15:22,539 --> 00:15:28,860 were taping it and then when they went 334 00:15:24,339 --> 00:15:28,860 action you'd stand there light and that 335 00:15:29,580 --> 00:15:33,490 cut cut 336 00:15:31,450 --> 00:15:35,379 okay we're doing it now guys ready and 337 00:15:33,490 --> 00:15:37,600 Sid go yeah yeah yeah and he did and he 338 00:15:35,379 --> 00:15:39,399 do it again again until finally but he 339 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,110 had to say listen isn't it weird you 340 00:15:39,399 --> 00:15:42,970 know I'll mime it from a very early age 341 00:15:41,110 --> 00:15:45,278 he didn't believe in rules and I imagine 342 00:15:42,970 --> 00:15:46,000 he was subjected to quite a few rules in 343 00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:47,320 that studio 344 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:51,278 I mean Norman Smith was one of the old 345 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:52,900 school and imagine getting to record at 346 00:15:51,278 --> 00:15:55,208 a certain time and getting to sing a 347 00:15:52,899 --> 00:15:56,799 song in a certain way all this must be 348 00:15:55,208 --> 00:15:58,989 very difficult for several nights Sid 349 00:15:56,799 --> 00:16:01,149 who was very much a creature of the 350 00:15:58,990 --> 00:16:03,519 times a product of his era who didn't 351 00:16:01,149 --> 00:16:05,139 like being told what to do each time 352 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:06,789 Norman left the studio said it was with 353 00:16:05,139 --> 00:16:08,350 a splitting headache and he said it's 354 00:16:06,789 --> 00:16:10,449 dealing with Sid barrows like dealing 355 00:16:08,350 --> 00:16:13,600 with a child he just looked at you 356 00:16:10,450 --> 00:16:16,540 blankly some other time one minute II be 357 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,370 up the next to be down Norman Smith did 358 00:16:16,539 --> 00:16:20,469 not even enjoy the experience of working 359 00:16:18,370 --> 00:16:24,240 with Syd Barrett it was pretty damn 360 00:16:20,470 --> 00:16:26,950 difficult with with Syd Barrett 361 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:29,950 it was Piper that put the band on the 362 00:16:26,950 --> 00:16:32,410 map it's endearing brand of psychedelic 363 00:16:29,950 --> 00:16:32,920 whimsy was perfect for the mood of the 364 00:16:32,409 --> 00:16:35,259 day 365 00:16:32,919 --> 00:16:38,529 Barrett clearly had his finger on the 366 00:16:35,259 --> 00:16:40,389 pulse of the national mood however the 367 00:16:38,529 --> 00:16:42,639 first glimpse of a full albums worth of 368 00:16:40,389 --> 00:16:45,730 Pink Floyd was something of a musical 369 00:16:42,639 --> 00:16:47,830 enigma the album was so steeped in 370 00:16:45,730 --> 00:16:51,970 psychedelia it could only have been made 371 00:16:47,830 --> 00:16:54,790 in 1967 alongside Barrett's whimsical 372 00:16:51,970 --> 00:16:58,750 mannered compositions such as the loam 373 00:16:54,789 --> 00:17:01,059 and bike we find full blown space rock 374 00:16:58,750 --> 00:17:04,000 epics like interstellar overdrive' and 375 00:17:01,059 --> 00:17:07,179 astronomy domine the overall effect is 376 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:09,569 one of almost palpable confusion it's 377 00:17:07,180 --> 00:17:11,769 two completely different and totally 378 00:17:09,569 --> 00:17:14,439 irreconcilable musical personalities 379 00:17:11,769 --> 00:17:16,569 battle it out for supremacy not 380 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:21,670 surprisingly the results are somewhat 381 00:17:16,569 --> 00:17:24,519 confusing in musical terms when the 382 00:17:21,670 --> 00:17:26,949 debut album came out in 1967 the Piper 383 00:17:24,519 --> 00:17:30,549 at the Gates of Dawn it was generally 384 00:17:26,949 --> 00:17:32,500 enthusiastically received with one 385 00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:34,720 notable exception the clientele of the 386 00:17:32,500 --> 00:17:37,029 UFO Club in Tottenham Court Road which 387 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,950 became to pinpoint what the cavern had 388 00:17:37,029 --> 00:17:40,750 been to the Beatles were generally 389 00:17:38,950 --> 00:17:43,509 rather sniffy towards ourselves and 390 00:17:40,750 --> 00:17:45,009 there was a widespread opinion that the 391 00:17:43,509 --> 00:17:46,839 Piper at the Gates of Dawn and quite 392 00:17:45,009 --> 00:17:51,609 significantly failed to capture the 393 00:17:46,839 --> 00:17:53,649 band's live sound I think part of the 394 00:17:51,609 --> 00:17:56,379 gate for Dorne is grayed out pop at the 395 00:17:53,650 --> 00:17:58,540 gates of door is the best blow it out 396 00:17:56,380 --> 00:18:00,700 for me I absolutely love it it's the 397 00:17:58,539 --> 00:18:01,960 sound of a band going places where no 398 00:18:00,700 --> 00:18:04,720 one had ever been before 399 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,759 totally innovative totally experimental 400 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:11,470 you take some of the songs of the first 401 00:18:06,759 --> 00:18:12,700 album you know bike I've got a boat you 402 00:18:11,470 --> 00:18:14,440 can write it if you like it's got a 403 00:18:12,700 --> 00:18:16,299 basket but all the rings and things to 404 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:19,870 make it look good I'd give it to you if 405 00:18:16,299 --> 00:18:22,419 I could but I borrowed it there's 406 00:18:19,869 --> 00:18:24,279 something away about the way the lyric 407 00:18:22,420 --> 00:18:27,100 attaches to the meter in a very 408 00:18:24,279 --> 00:18:30,299 satisfying way but then they kids but I 409 00:18:27,099 --> 00:18:32,439 borrowed it kind of kicks it off into 410 00:18:30,299 --> 00:18:35,319 there's something very English about 411 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,700 that about the completeness of that and 412 00:18:35,319 --> 00:18:38,918 yet 413 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:40,749 the fact that it's so unpredictable I 414 00:18:38,919 --> 00:18:43,629 think it was the unpredictability of it 415 00:18:40,749 --> 00:18:44,829 combined with its simplicity that that 416 00:18:43,628 --> 00:18:47,288 made it so special 417 00:18:44,829 --> 00:18:50,949 Piper at the Gates of Dawn I think sits 418 00:18:47,288 --> 00:18:52,749 as a unique artifact separate from the 419 00:18:50,950 --> 00:18:56,679 rest of Pink Floyd it was a different 420 00:18:52,749 --> 00:19:01,269 band people actively hate Pink Floyd for 421 00:18:56,679 --> 00:19:04,119 what they became but embrace that you 422 00:19:01,269 --> 00:19:06,638 know the city of Pink Floyd and it's 423 00:19:04,118 --> 00:19:10,769 almost like a badge you know I actually 424 00:19:06,638 --> 00:19:12,928 hate his annoyed but the first album 425 00:19:10,769 --> 00:19:15,119 by the time the band came to make its 426 00:19:12,929 --> 00:19:17,429 second album CID was no longer 427 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:23,250 functioning as either performer or 428 00:19:17,429 --> 00:19:27,620 writer thinks it's its own illness it 429 00:19:23,250 --> 00:19:31,980 put it probably you know we can say that 430 00:19:27,619 --> 00:19:33,869 marijuana to a certain extent an asset 431 00:19:31,980 --> 00:19:37,200 to a large extent can do nothing but 432 00:19:33,869 --> 00:19:38,759 exacerbate that collection of symptoms 433 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,240 that we put together and loosely 434 00:19:38,759 --> 00:19:45,990 described a schizophrenia anything and 435 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:47,909 so there is no doubt but that those 436 00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:50,308 things are very bad for schizophrenic 437 00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:52,020 they worsen the condition and they and 438 00:19:50,308 --> 00:19:53,849 so on and so forth and so and they way 439 00:19:52,019 --> 00:19:56,579 there is no doubt that Sid was 440 00:19:53,849 --> 00:19:58,740 schizophrenic and that he was taking 441 00:19:56,579 --> 00:20:01,740 those those drugs at the same time we 442 00:19:58,740 --> 00:20:05,190 had a sort of style of almost if there 443 00:20:01,740 --> 00:20:10,019 was a problem ignore it and it finally 444 00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:11,880 sort of came to the point where we 445 00:20:10,019 --> 00:20:15,408 ignored it by not picking sit up one day 446 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:18,120 just going off with the other four of us 447 00:20:15,409 --> 00:20:19,980 Sid was the creative force behind the 448 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,259 original recording lineup of Pink Floyd 449 00:20:19,980 --> 00:20:24,599 not only was he the lead vocalist and 450 00:20:22,259 --> 00:20:27,450 the guitarist he was also the writer of 451 00:20:24,599 --> 00:20:29,759 all the fledgling groups material now 452 00:20:27,450 --> 00:20:32,210 without Sid to call upon Pink Floyd 453 00:20:29,759 --> 00:20:34,470 needed both a guitarist and a writer 454 00:20:32,210 --> 00:20:37,230 finally the guitarist was relatively 455 00:20:34,470 --> 00:20:39,360 easy David Gilmour friend of SIDS from 456 00:20:37,230 --> 00:20:41,759 Cambridge had been drafted in as the 457 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,889 fifth member to provide onstage cover 458 00:20:41,759 --> 00:20:46,589 for the increasingly unstable frontman 459 00:20:43,890 --> 00:20:49,980 when Sid drifted out of the picture 460 00:20:46,589 --> 00:20:52,168 Gilmour was already in place filling the 461 00:20:49,980 --> 00:20:53,839 gap left by Barrett the writer proved to 462 00:20:52,169 --> 00:20:56,460 be somewhat bigger of a challenge 463 00:20:53,839 --> 00:21:02,869 overnight the hit singles suddenly dried 464 00:20:56,460 --> 00:21:02,870 up losing the flow of songs was 465 00:21:02,950 --> 00:21:09,019 disastrous for us at that point cuz he 466 00:21:05,539 --> 00:21:10,789 was doing most of the writing so I said 467 00:21:09,019 --> 00:21:12,889 why doesn't he just write songs and come 468 00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:15,440 and record and we'll go and do gigs but 469 00:21:12,890 --> 00:21:18,080 he there's no way you can do that they 470 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,690 rang up eventually maybe a specific 471 00:21:18,079 --> 00:21:27,250 offer which obviously was the start of a 472 00:21:20,690 --> 00:21:31,940 very difficult and strange time with 473 00:21:27,250 --> 00:21:34,549 both Syd and I turning up together to 474 00:21:31,940 --> 00:21:38,590 two rehearsals and you're going out and 475 00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:44,569 doing shows with five of us where I 476 00:21:38,589 --> 00:21:46,519 would be playing I'd be learning and 477 00:21:44,569 --> 00:21:49,579 playing Sid's parts and singing sits 478 00:21:46,519 --> 00:21:51,589 songs well Syd it'd be sort of standing 479 00:21:49,579 --> 00:21:54,769 there and sometimes singing a little bit 480 00:21:51,589 --> 00:21:55,250 and sometimes playing a little bit very 481 00:21:54,769 --> 00:21:57,529 odd 482 00:21:55,250 --> 00:22:03,920 shall I light all good laughter or shall 483 00:21:57,529 --> 00:22:05,720 I try to kill him I don't how it's 484 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,390 certainly as far as I'm concerned I 485 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:11,569 don't remember being overcome with 486 00:22:07,390 --> 00:22:12,680 compassion but having said that as I say 487 00:22:11,569 --> 00:22:15,139 I think there were a number of people 488 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,660 who did try and do their best for him 489 00:22:15,140 --> 00:22:19,970 and there were attempts to get him to 490 00:22:17,660 --> 00:22:21,110 therapy in' and so on we never actually 491 00:22:19,970 --> 00:22:22,730 managed to get him through the front 492 00:22:21,109 --> 00:22:24,229 door we can you know got him to the door 493 00:22:22,730 --> 00:22:27,410 a couple of times whenever going through 494 00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:29,420 the job I I think someone said that they 495 00:22:27,410 --> 00:22:31,700 described all of said symptoms to him 496 00:22:29,420 --> 00:22:35,660 but he did say something like well are 497 00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:42,200 you sure this is SIDS problem which it 498 00:22:35,660 --> 00:22:44,840 may be with it's a good thing to say one 499 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:48,049 night soon after Barrett was ousted from 500 00:22:44,839 --> 00:22:50,269 the band when he came into the UFO Club 501 00:22:48,049 --> 00:22:54,859 and he stood right in front of Gilmour 502 00:22:50,269 --> 00:22:57,680 on stage Gilmour recounted later that 503 00:22:54,859 --> 00:22:59,629 Sid's head was about at his foot height 504 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,480 and he just stood there throughout the 505 00:22:59,630 --> 00:23:05,660 Floyd set glaring upwards straight into 506 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,279 Gilmore's eyes about 35 minutes and 507 00:23:05,660 --> 00:23:10,730 buried mine Gilmour and Barrett had been 508 00:23:07,279 --> 00:23:12,420 friends since childhood and and really 509 00:23:10,730 --> 00:23:14,640 remain friends 510 00:23:12,420 --> 00:23:16,950 for years and years afterwards but that 511 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,290 incident had a very profound effect on 512 00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:21,000 Gilmore who confined it to his flatmates 513 00:23:19,289 --> 00:23:22,980 afterwards that he didn't think he would 514 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:28,980 carry on anymore he was that disturbed 515 00:23:22,980 --> 00:23:31,079 by that particular evening the group as 516 00:23:28,980 --> 00:23:33,180 a whole was greater than the sum of the 517 00:23:31,079 --> 00:23:36,799 parts and that's why 518 00:23:33,180 --> 00:23:39,779 Floyd managed to survive after Sibley 519 00:23:36,799 --> 00:23:45,059 because that essence of what they were 520 00:23:39,779 --> 00:23:49,109 doing together survived I said was a 521 00:23:45,059 --> 00:23:50,700 great performer and a great you never 522 00:23:49,109 --> 00:23:53,549 knew what was going to come from SIDS 523 00:23:50,700 --> 00:23:56,940 guitar now you know I saw a lot of great 524 00:23:53,549 --> 00:23:59,099 performers around that period and Sid 525 00:23:56,940 --> 00:24:01,680 was definitely a great performing away 526 00:23:59,099 --> 00:24:05,129 from it very challenging the definition 527 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:07,259 of the word genius extends to someone 528 00:24:05,130 --> 00:24:10,980 who makes a profound effect on the lives 529 00:24:07,259 --> 00:24:12,900 of others and if you take that then I 530 00:24:10,980 --> 00:24:13,700 think can apply it to said bio it quite 531 00:24:12,900 --> 00:24:15,900 well 532 00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:18,090 [Music] 533 00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:20,460 I don't think it's an exaggeration to 534 00:24:18,089 --> 00:24:22,109 say that in this pop never really 535 00:24:20,460 --> 00:24:23,610 recovered from the loss of Syd Barrett 536 00:24:22,109 --> 00:24:25,919 as it as a writer and indeed as a 537 00:24:23,609 --> 00:24:31,199 guitarist he was never adequately 538 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:33,029 replaced Syd Barrett made only a 539 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,720 marginal contribution to a Saucerful of 540 00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:36,450 Secrets 541 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,789 the second Pink Floyd album the pop 542 00:24:36,450 --> 00:24:40,580 sensibilities of Piper are increasingly 543 00:24:38,789 --> 00:24:43,470 buried under layers of avant-garde 544 00:24:40,579 --> 00:24:45,869 experimentation as Freud begin to grasp 545 00:24:43,470 --> 00:24:48,450 their way towards the sound which made 546 00:24:45,869 --> 00:24:50,339 them a worldwide success highlights 547 00:24:48,450 --> 00:24:52,440 include set the controls for the heart 548 00:24:50,339 --> 00:24:55,409 of the Sun and the heavenly voices 549 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,990 section of the title track simple 550 00:24:55,410 --> 00:25:00,720 straight numbers such as jug band Blues 551 00:24:57,990 --> 00:25:03,120 and corporal Clegg now seems slightly 552 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,400 out of place as the main emphasis is 553 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,500 clearly on the instrumental heavyweights 554 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:10,019 jump band blues is one of the saddest 555 00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:12,420 things you can hear it really is there's 556 00:25:10,019 --> 00:25:14,599 a version of it which was recorded for 557 00:25:12,420 --> 00:25:18,090 John people showed just before Christmas 558 00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:20,399 1967 so really on the cusp of seds last 559 00:25:18,089 --> 00:25:23,490 days as a member of the Pink Floyd and 560 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:26,130 I've known people who were reduced to 561 00:25:23,490 --> 00:25:29,490 tears over that thing yes I defy anyone 562 00:25:26,130 --> 00:25:31,860 to listen to joke band blues almost 40 563 00:25:29,490 --> 00:25:34,890 years after he's written and defy them 564 00:25:31,859 --> 00:25:36,689 not to be terribly moved by the lyrics 565 00:25:34,890 --> 00:25:39,030 in that particular song it's the one 566 00:25:36,690 --> 00:25:42,870 flash of seed that you get instills full 567 00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:45,389 of secrets and it's like he's addressing 568 00:25:42,869 --> 00:25:47,808 the fact that he's not quite with it 569 00:25:45,390 --> 00:25:50,909 anymore mentally 570 00:25:47,808 --> 00:25:52,349 the title track Saucerful of Secrets and 571 00:25:50,909 --> 00:25:55,230 set the controls for the heart of the 572 00:25:52,349 --> 00:25:57,748 Sun definitely hint what was to come 573 00:25:55,230 --> 00:26:00,720 their continued exploration with sound 574 00:25:57,749 --> 00:26:02,730 effects which were a great thing and the 575 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,618 extended themes were absolutely 576 00:26:02,730 --> 00:26:07,349 brilliant because of the experimentation 577 00:26:04,618 --> 00:26:11,249 I'd be doing the with sounds each song 578 00:26:07,349 --> 00:26:13,408 that came up that I listened to I would 579 00:26:11,249 --> 00:26:14,999 be going through my head I reckoned 580 00:26:13,409 --> 00:26:18,419 perhaps some of those sounds could work 581 00:26:14,999 --> 00:26:20,009 here so it was to be built as one went 582 00:26:18,419 --> 00:26:22,109 along but he'd sound sometimes of course 583 00:26:20,009 --> 00:26:25,999 an song didn't need though those sort of 584 00:26:22,108 --> 00:26:29,069 gimmicks at all but like feedback or or 585 00:26:25,999 --> 00:26:32,460 tape loops played backwards and it echo 586 00:26:29,069 --> 00:26:35,668 added to it and all stuff like they set 587 00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:37,769 the controls is one of my favorite 588 00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:39,480 tracks from that era because it's really 589 00:26:37,769 --> 00:26:41,849 quite strange and and it has a 590 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,739 particular mood and that's one of the 591 00:26:41,849 --> 00:26:46,528 things they were always very good at 592 00:26:43,739 --> 00:26:49,009 getting still are you know it's creating 593 00:26:46,528 --> 00:26:49,009 a mood 594 00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:54,769 the taboo against songs longer than 595 00:26:53,579 --> 00:26:58,439 three minutes 596 00:26:54,769 --> 00:27:01,019 I've been lifted in a way there have 597 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,840 been you know different groups doing 598 00:27:01,019 --> 00:27:06,389 longer sort of extended instrumentals 599 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:08,909 and things like that and so they were 600 00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:12,330 able to put on record the way that they 601 00:27:08,910 --> 00:27:14,250 sounded in person much more in addition 602 00:27:12,329 --> 00:27:16,379 to studio recordings at this time 603 00:27:14,250 --> 00:27:19,170 Floyd also producing soundtrack music 604 00:27:16,380 --> 00:27:21,240 for films the original soundtrack from 605 00:27:19,170 --> 00:27:23,370 the film more was the first of two 606 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:26,849 soundtracks made for the french director 607 00:27:23,369 --> 00:27:28,559 Barbet Schroeder with the band still 608 00:27:26,849 --> 00:27:31,019 working to find a solid direction in 609 00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:33,929 writing terms the next album was to be a 610 00:27:31,019 --> 00:27:36,150 curious hybrid I try to encourage them 611 00:27:33,930 --> 00:27:41,039 in their own sort of producing at home 612 00:27:36,150 --> 00:27:45,210 they all had little studio things that 613 00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:47,759 they could do a record on and just 614 00:27:45,210 --> 00:27:49,710 simply bring them into the studio with 615 00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:52,200 me and I'll go through them etc so I 616 00:27:49,710 --> 00:27:55,049 encouraged them to more and more produce 617 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:58,529 themselves and particularly Norma goomar 618 00:27:55,049 --> 00:28:01,079 where they each had a section of that 619 00:27:58,529 --> 00:28:03,149 album to themselves they could do 620 00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:05,460 exactly whatever they wanted I have a 621 00:28:03,150 --> 00:28:07,200 memory of working as an assistant at a 622 00:28:05,460 --> 00:28:09,960 pop on some of the Piper at the Gates of 623 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,789 doing sessions and I was extremely 624 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,799 impressed because that was wonderful so 625 00:28:11,789 --> 00:28:14,819 you know you had this expectation this 626 00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:15,779 was going to be great you were going to 627 00:28:14,819 --> 00:28:18,990 come in and you're going to do all these 628 00:28:15,779 --> 00:28:21,720 his wonderful songs and it didn't turn 629 00:28:18,990 --> 00:28:23,220 out quite like her they all came in and 630 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,519 we all sat there and Norman said to him 631 00:28:23,220 --> 00:28:28,170 well you got some songs they didn't know 632 00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:30,809 and had to decide what they were going 633 00:28:28,170 --> 00:28:31,980 to do in terms of what they're going to 634 00:28:30,809 --> 00:28:33,269 do for this record they had to make a 635 00:28:31,980 --> 00:28:36,029 record they've got sessions booked what 636 00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:37,710 were they going to do and and after much 637 00:28:36,029 --> 00:28:39,450 discussion it was decided that they 638 00:28:37,710 --> 00:28:42,090 would have a quarter of the record each 639 00:28:39,450 --> 00:28:43,590 to do whatever they wanted and that the 640 00:28:42,089 --> 00:28:45,269 others would you know the other three 641 00:28:43,589 --> 00:28:48,299 would assist the one whose quarter it 642 00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:49,559 was to do now I mean at that stage 643 00:28:48,299 --> 00:28:51,059 probably there would have been other 644 00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:52,740 producers who would have said no sorry 645 00:28:51,059 --> 00:28:55,139 would cancel sessions go away rights and 646 00:28:52,740 --> 00:28:58,380 songs come back and we're done whereas 647 00:28:55,140 --> 00:28:59,820 Norman went with it and we ended up with 648 00:28:58,380 --> 00:29:02,370 what we ended up with and I wouldn't 649 00:28:59,819 --> 00:29:04,379 interfere they could do unless 650 00:29:02,369 --> 00:29:06,750 helped them it's it's an integration 651 00:29:04,380 --> 00:29:08,669 between the music and the effects it's 652 00:29:06,750 --> 00:29:11,130 you can't really separate the two out I 653 00:29:08,669 --> 00:29:14,340 mean you can listen to what any of the 654 00:29:11,130 --> 00:29:16,980 four parts and they all have the 655 00:29:14,339 --> 00:29:18,750 integration of effects and music or 656 00:29:16,980 --> 00:29:20,190 sounds or experimentation or whatever 657 00:29:18,750 --> 00:29:22,288 you want to call it there's a lot of 658 00:29:20,190 --> 00:29:22,830 double speed and half speed stuff going 659 00:29:22,288 --> 00:29:25,048 on in there 660 00:29:22,829 --> 00:29:26,369 backwards stuff going on in there be 661 00:29:25,048 --> 00:29:28,200 interesting to pull it apart and 662 00:29:26,369 --> 00:29:32,819 actually see what it was at the time you 663 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:35,058 know we put there savvy over all the 664 00:29:32,819 --> 00:29:37,470 experiment strays too far towards 665 00:29:35,058 --> 00:29:39,058 freeform instrumental exploration 666 00:29:37,470 --> 00:29:41,038 without enough of the melodic 667 00:29:39,058 --> 00:29:44,129 counterpoint which was to make their 668 00:29:41,038 --> 00:29:48,528 next album so successful mortis himself 669 00:29:44,130 --> 00:29:48,528 let it described the album as a disaster 670 00:29:50,819 --> 00:29:55,079 although I'm a Gummer had proved an 671 00:29:52,919 --> 00:29:57,750 inconsistent experience the band 672 00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:59,699 continued to work hard and the constant 673 00:29:57,750 --> 00:30:02,970 touring saw them improved very much in 674 00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:04,798 the live arena life on tour and playing 675 00:30:02,970 --> 00:30:06,600 together almost every night was 676 00:30:04,798 --> 00:30:10,798 sharpening up the group's collective 677 00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:12,629 skills as a writing unit as well the 678 00:30:10,798 --> 00:30:14,638 results of this process would be seen in 679 00:30:12,630 --> 00:30:18,149 the next album atom heart mother 680 00:30:14,638 --> 00:30:19,709 released in October 1970 this album was 681 00:30:18,148 --> 00:30:22,949 to be the first real breakthrough for 682 00:30:19,710 --> 00:30:24,690 Pink Floyd the whole first side of the 683 00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:27,149 album comprised an avant-garde 684 00:30:24,690 --> 00:30:29,429 instrumental piece featuring choir and 685 00:30:27,148 --> 00:30:32,849 orchestral elements arranged by Ron 686 00:30:29,429 --> 00:30:36,659 Geeson what happened in a tomorrow 687 00:30:32,849 --> 00:30:43,048 mother was that because they were a kind 688 00:30:36,659 --> 00:30:46,620 of exhausted because of commitments and 689 00:30:43,048 --> 00:30:52,819 and demands by the manager and EMI 690 00:30:46,619 --> 00:30:56,089 records they needed some other input so 691 00:30:52,819 --> 00:31:00,689 because I was friends with them all I 692 00:30:56,089 --> 00:31:04,168 was asked to be their input really they 693 00:31:00,690 --> 00:31:08,538 had five or six little sections that 694 00:31:04,169 --> 00:31:12,590 they had recorded at EMI abbey road of 695 00:31:08,538 --> 00:31:17,878 what I call a backing track and they had 696 00:31:12,589 --> 00:31:21,658 then stuck these together as you do with 697 00:31:17,878 --> 00:31:25,439 magnetic tape so with that they come up 698 00:31:21,659 --> 00:31:27,860 with a tape which was an accompaniment 699 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,860 tape 700 00:31:28,049 --> 00:31:33,119 blasting I can't remember 23 minutes or 701 00:31:31,259 --> 00:31:37,900 something and I have been 25 and a half 702 00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:40,759 whatever was under 30 and over 20 and 703 00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:47,430 [Music] 704 00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:51,960 they gave me that a mix a rough mix of 705 00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:55,769 that tape and we had some discussions 706 00:31:51,960 --> 00:32:02,850 about what might go on it they said they 707 00:31:55,769 --> 00:32:05,039 wanted a big sound and we had a very 708 00:32:02,849 --> 00:32:07,439 short session and I'm talking like a 709 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:10,740 morning and I another bit of an 710 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:14,240 afternoon somewhere I think where Rick 711 00:32:10,740 --> 00:32:18,690 Wright came around my studio in Labrador 712 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:21,690 London West 10:00 and we looked at the 713 00:32:18,690 --> 00:32:26,700 choir section so he may be suggested 714 00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:28,170 some notes or our way of going but there 715 00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:30,480 was nothing written down either 716 00:32:28,170 --> 00:32:34,050 there was nothing written down for the 717 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,960 choir at that time at that session and 718 00:32:34,049 --> 00:32:40,589 then Dave came round with her with a 719 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,420 sort of an arpeggio and suggesting that 720 00:32:40,589 --> 00:32:48,230 for the four what was in fact the main 721 00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:51,570 theme the frosty the rest of it was me 722 00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:55,650 it's an it's a concoction it's an 723 00:32:51,569 --> 00:32:57,720 assembly the speeds were all wrong like 724 00:32:55,650 --> 00:32:59,580 when you're moving through a piece you 725 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:03,750 know when it should speed up you know 726 00:32:59,579 --> 00:33:05,250 when it should slow down in fact the 727 00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:06,750 reverse happened with some of the 728 00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:08,430 sections because when they stuck the 729 00:33:06,750 --> 00:33:16,819 sections together they didn't actually 730 00:33:08,430 --> 00:33:21,950 really work so my job was to craft 731 00:33:16,819 --> 00:33:26,869 something sensible on top of this 732 00:33:21,950 --> 00:33:30,500 rather cobbled collage or montage and 733 00:33:26,869 --> 00:33:33,859 make it look like it was working the art 734 00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:37,279 bit was getting a couple of melodies 735 00:33:33,859 --> 00:33:40,879 that really worked and I believe that 736 00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:43,480 the opening theme melody really works 737 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:46,600 now and the cello melody really works 738 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:49,250 and they're entirely out of my head 739 00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:51,319 both of them are quite expansive they 740 00:33:49,250 --> 00:33:56,599 cover quite a wide range I mean the 741 00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:59,309 whole one starts on the space without an 742 00:33:56,599 --> 00:34:03,529 octave but then it expands 743 00:33:59,309 --> 00:34:03,529 and then further 744 00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:08,779 so you've covered that whole space which 745 00:34:06,919 --> 00:34:10,519 is quite quite right arranging if you 746 00:34:08,780 --> 00:34:11,580 then look at the cello theme it starts 747 00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:19,300 down at the same place 748 00:34:11,579 --> 00:34:22,759 [Music] 749 00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:25,580 it's actually slightly wider but not 750 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,680 much so they both have this sense of of 751 00:34:25,579 --> 00:34:29,360 expansiveness of space they're not 752 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:32,179 claustrophobic atom heart mother 753 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,610 featured more of the gentler pastoral 754 00:34:32,179 --> 00:34:37,250 Floyd sound which characterized the 755 00:34:34,610 --> 00:34:40,519 album's around about this time the Roger 756 00:34:37,250 --> 00:34:42,469 Waters song if and Gilmore's fat old son 757 00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:45,110 proved to be the highlights of the 758 00:34:42,469 --> 00:34:46,969 mellow second side of the illness how on 759 00:34:45,110 --> 00:34:48,829 earth is somewhat fat holds fun certain 760 00:34:46,969 --> 00:34:50,179 fame Eldon is acting out mother in some 761 00:34:48,829 --> 00:34:52,279 ways it reminds me a bit of us at a 762 00:34:50,179 --> 00:34:54,440 country song you know it's sort of weird 763 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:57,140 because on the same album there's this 764 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,869 completely and utterly British Standard 765 00:34:57,139 --> 00:35:01,879 soul but I quite like it when they play 766 00:34:59,869 --> 00:35:04,069 it on stage it's like a different song 767 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,470 it's got all the dynamics or the passion 768 00:35:04,070 --> 00:35:09,980 all the greatness of Floyd tracks the 769 00:35:06,469 --> 00:35:12,439 one thing that the Pink Floyd to me have 770 00:35:09,980 --> 00:35:14,150 always been able to do is transmit their 771 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:17,450 emotion from the record to the listener 772 00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:19,550 I think that's why they're so popular it 773 00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:22,099 was a group effort and everybody was 774 00:35:19,550 --> 00:35:24,380 doing enjoying it and I think that comes 775 00:35:22,099 --> 00:35:27,099 across here's the opening sequence for 776 00:35:24,380 --> 00:35:27,099 atom heart mother 777 00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:34,400 under the horn Melanie 778 00:35:31,250 --> 00:35:36,409 a four chord sequence which just repeats 779 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,599 it doesn't repeat the same every time 780 00:35:36,409 --> 00:35:41,049 but pretty well what do we get under fat 781 00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:41,049 old son 782 00:35:44,460 --> 00:35:49,838 exactly the same metrically it's exactly 783 00:35:48,278 --> 00:35:52,539 the same you've got this ponderous fall 784 00:35:49,838 --> 00:35:54,338 for what is different between fat old 785 00:35:52,539 --> 00:35:56,170 son and atom heart mother is that you 786 00:35:54,338 --> 00:35:57,940 have some lyrics so it makes it a song 787 00:35:56,170 --> 00:35:59,980 will that matters that that takes it out 788 00:35:57,940 --> 00:36:04,510 of the realm of that heart mother great 789 00:35:59,980 --> 00:36:06,818 things and you have no you have no 790 00:36:04,510 --> 00:36:08,319 orchestral instruments but other than 791 00:36:06,818 --> 00:36:10,119 that they're exactly the same they come 792 00:36:08,318 --> 00:36:13,170 from exactly the same stay with exactly 793 00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:17,140 the same way of thinking maybe in a way 794 00:36:13,170 --> 00:36:19,630 the album had to have these more subdued 795 00:36:17,139 --> 00:36:21,250 and cooler tracts otherwise you might 796 00:36:19,630 --> 00:36:22,798 have gone 797 00:36:21,250 --> 00:36:24,420 [Music] 798 00:36:22,798 --> 00:36:26,818 they had established themselves 799 00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:29,459 originally as 3-minute hits single 800 00:36:26,818 --> 00:36:31,708 people in a way with see Emily playing 801 00:36:29,458 --> 00:36:33,478 Arnold Layne and although live of course 802 00:36:31,708 --> 00:36:35,938 they'd always experiment even played 803 00:36:33,478 --> 00:36:38,098 longer pieces but now I could do that on 804 00:36:35,938 --> 00:36:40,528 my album stew with that'm heart mother 805 00:36:38,099 --> 00:36:43,318 the band was now firmly into its musical 806 00:36:40,528 --> 00:36:45,630 stride and the signs were auspicious for 807 00:36:43,318 --> 00:36:49,409 the next album when it finally arrived 808 00:36:45,630 --> 00:36:52,108 in November 1971 medal was to exceed all 809 00:36:49,409 --> 00:36:54,528 expectations that is the album released 810 00:36:52,108 --> 00:36:56,219 they moved from post Barrett 811 00:36:54,528 --> 00:36:58,170 experimentalists trying to find the 812 00:36:56,219 --> 00:37:00,479 right identity it's where they began to 813 00:36:58,170 --> 00:37:03,088 find their identity and hit hit on me 814 00:37:00,478 --> 00:37:05,399 the motifs that they were then turned 815 00:37:03,088 --> 00:37:10,889 into the the tremendous in transcendent 816 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:13,170 Dark Side of the Moon with this album 817 00:37:10,889 --> 00:37:14,998 Pink Floyd demonstrated that the group 818 00:37:13,170 --> 00:37:17,099 had learned how to take their original 819 00:37:14,998 --> 00:37:19,139 sound effects which the band have made 820 00:37:17,099 --> 00:37:21,289 their own and weaves them together with 821 00:37:19,139 --> 00:37:24,058 the music to create a seamless blend 822 00:37:21,289 --> 00:37:27,179 which was to become synonymous with Pink 823 00:37:24,059 --> 00:37:30,359 Floyd the results are best seen still in 824 00:37:27,179 --> 00:37:32,130 echoes it's got all of the great floyd 825 00:37:30,358 --> 00:37:34,498 qualities coming together possibly for 826 00:37:32,130 --> 00:37:37,829 the very first time they drama the 827 00:37:34,498 --> 00:37:40,188 dynamics really individual distinctive 828 00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:44,278 lead guitar playing gorgeous melodies 829 00:37:40,188 --> 00:37:46,048 harmony singing that's a Rick Wright and 830 00:37:44,278 --> 00:37:47,998 Dave Gilmour singing together 831 00:37:46,048 --> 00:37:50,130 so very close harmonies always between 832 00:37:47,998 --> 00:37:51,928 Rick Wright and Dave Gilmour they're 833 00:37:50,130 --> 00:37:54,269 always kind of there's certainly nothing 834 00:37:51,929 --> 00:37:55,139 sweetly birds being poppy going on in 835 00:37:54,268 --> 00:37:57,419 row 836 00:37:55,139 --> 00:37:59,699 echoes was the centerpiece of metal was 837 00:37:57,420 --> 00:38:03,809 the centerpiece of their live show at 838 00:37:59,699 --> 00:38:06,778 that time and was a melding together of 839 00:38:03,809 --> 00:38:09,839 many episodes and was something that 840 00:38:06,778 --> 00:38:13,139 they could replicate live very very well 841 00:38:09,838 --> 00:38:14,518 echoes is absolutely a landmark in Pink 842 00:38:13,139 --> 00:38:16,708 Floyd's Korea it's the one which 843 00:38:14,518 --> 00:38:18,268 probably meant that they didn't just 844 00:38:16,708 --> 00:38:19,858 wind up round about now being just 845 00:38:18,268 --> 00:38:22,048 another psychedelic band who couldn't 846 00:38:19,858 --> 00:38:23,019 get a break it's when they learned how 847 00:38:22,048 --> 00:38:25,269 to 848 00:38:23,019 --> 00:38:28,150 with an extended expanded piece of music 849 00:38:25,269 --> 00:38:29,860 to make it accessible to the casual 850 00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:32,050 listener Becker has also formed the 851 00:38:29,860 --> 00:38:34,090 foundations of the superb film Pink 852 00:38:32,050 --> 00:38:37,600 Floyd at Pompeii directed by French 853 00:38:34,090 --> 00:38:39,460 director Adrian Marvin Pink Floyd had 854 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:41,139 always been greatly appreciated in 855 00:38:39,460 --> 00:38:43,599 Europe and the Pompeii film is the 856 00:38:41,139 --> 00:38:45,670 result of a European co-production it is 857 00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:48,279 still rightly regarded by many as the 858 00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:50,980 best a vocation of the Floyd in the live 859 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,660 environment on the whole the album is 860 00:38:50,980 --> 00:38:54,190 still a rather patchy offering in which 861 00:38:52,659 --> 00:38:57,819 the weaker moments outnumbered are 862 00:38:54,190 --> 00:39:00,250 strong its yet middle represented rather 863 00:38:57,820 --> 00:39:02,710 than its content you know after all this 864 00:39:00,250 --> 00:39:05,309 sort of messing about with film 865 00:39:02,710 --> 00:39:07,480 soundtracks line albums you know 866 00:39:05,309 --> 00:39:12,279 projects are atom heart mother I think 867 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:17,199 that it was probably the first true post 868 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:19,300 Sid Pink Floyd album the real Pink Floyd 869 00:39:17,199 --> 00:39:22,960 masterpiece was just around the corner 870 00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:24,730 in March 1973 Pink Floyd released the 871 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,550 album which would take them into the 872 00:39:24,730 --> 00:39:27,820 musical stratosphere Dark Side of the 873 00:39:27,550 --> 00:39:31,820 Moon 874 00:39:27,820 --> 00:39:33,920 [Music] 875 00:39:31,820 --> 00:39:35,150 with Dark Side of the Moon everything 876 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,710 came together beautifully 877 00:39:35,150 --> 00:39:39,079 the songs were fascinating 878 00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:41,710 state-of-the-art technology interested 879 00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:43,940 people the album cover was intriguing 880 00:39:41,710 --> 00:39:47,000 everything about it hit at the right 881 00:39:43,940 --> 00:39:50,539 time in my opinion Darkseid was the most 882 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:54,139 accessible Floyd album to date and as 883 00:39:50,539 --> 00:39:57,920 most rounded and in a sense it was a 884 00:39:54,139 --> 00:40:00,259 sort of underground rocks Sergeant 885 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:03,559 Pepper if you like Dark Side of the Moon 886 00:40:00,260 --> 00:40:05,330 started off with as a mish mash as the 887 00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:08,779 band sitting down once they'd finished 888 00:40:05,329 --> 00:40:10,130 touring in America in early 1971 I'm 889 00:40:08,780 --> 00:40:11,660 thinking we've got to do a new album 890 00:40:10,130 --> 00:40:14,000 what have we got they have some ideas 891 00:40:11,659 --> 00:40:17,029 bits and bobs Dave Gilbert always says 892 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,610 nothing gels and so one day Roger Waters 893 00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:23,019 walked in and said I've got this idea 894 00:40:18,610 --> 00:40:23,019 let's do this as a concept album 895 00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:28,640 it was great gig in the sky ric reitz 896 00:40:27,048 --> 00:40:30,710 piano playing for me is absolutely 897 00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:33,489 fantastic and he's coming from a kind of 898 00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:33,490 a jazz angle 899 00:40:34,469 --> 00:40:39,969 even just that piece of music as an 900 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,050 emotional quarter that's what we're 901 00:40:39,969 --> 00:40:45,189 struggling to find 902 00:40:41,050 --> 00:40:47,800 [Music] 903 00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:50,950 I went up to Abbey Road I had no idea 904 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,210 what it was nobody told me I didn't know 905 00:40:50,949 --> 00:40:54,009 whether I was going to walk into the 906 00:40:52,210 --> 00:40:58,269 studio there's going to be a choir to 907 00:40:54,010 --> 00:41:01,920 other girls three other girls no idea so 908 00:40:58,269 --> 00:41:01,920 I walked into the control room and the 909 00:41:03,179 --> 00:41:10,299 band were there and they proceeded to 910 00:41:07,869 --> 00:41:13,869 explain to me that they were doing this 911 00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:18,430 album it was nearly finished and that 912 00:41:13,869 --> 00:41:22,358 the concept of the album and death and 913 00:41:18,429 --> 00:41:25,000 everything else in between and they 914 00:41:22,358 --> 00:41:26,049 played with the backing track when I 915 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,818 said well what do you want 916 00:41:26,050 --> 00:41:35,200 and basically they had no idea so I 917 00:41:30,818 --> 00:41:39,489 thought oh lovely and when I look back I 918 00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:43,899 was fairly new to this sort of world you 919 00:41:39,489 --> 00:41:46,838 know and probably quite naive but anyway 920 00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:50,559 I listened to the track a couple of 921 00:41:46,838 --> 00:41:53,679 times a night I personally had no idea 922 00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:55,570 and all what they wanted have I said I 923 00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:58,269 think the best thing for me is to go 924 00:41:55,570 --> 00:42:01,030 into the studio put the cans on and have 925 00:41:58,269 --> 00:42:03,519 a little girl and see what happens so I 926 00:42:01,030 --> 00:42:05,710 started off by going oh baby baby yeah 927 00:42:03,519 --> 00:42:08,829 yeah baby baby which is what what 928 00:42:05,710 --> 00:42:11,050 intended to do for sort of scat sort of 929 00:42:08,829 --> 00:42:12,190 singing and they said oh no no no no no 930 00:42:11,050 --> 00:42:17,260 we don't want any words 931 00:42:12,190 --> 00:42:17,710 well that really stumped me so david 932 00:42:17,260 --> 00:42:20,380 gilmour 933 00:42:17,710 --> 00:42:23,679 came he I have to say that he was really 934 00:42:20,380 --> 00:42:28,630 the the one that directed me there 935 00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:30,460 wasn't a word from anybody else so David 936 00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:32,740 said would I would you like me to write 937 00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:37,750 out the chord sequence I said no no no 938 00:42:32,739 --> 00:42:39,549 no no no no and it sort of happened when 939 00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:43,090 I I thought well I really don't know 940 00:42:39,550 --> 00:42:46,210 what they want I don't know but okay 941 00:42:43,090 --> 00:42:48,190 best feet forward you know and I thought 942 00:42:46,210 --> 00:42:50,289 well and I've said this many times but 943 00:42:48,190 --> 00:42:53,650 it's absolutely true that I thought I 944 00:42:50,289 --> 00:42:58,079 have to pretend to be an instrument and 945 00:42:53,650 --> 00:43:00,579 that's gave me an avenue to explore and 946 00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:03,400 so I started doing something so we like 947 00:43:00,579 --> 00:43:05,860 that so I said to Alan okay 948 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,170 put the red light on record this because 949 00:43:05,860 --> 00:43:12,099 usually the first take is the best and I 950 00:43:08,170 --> 00:43:13,780 started singing and did it I went into 951 00:43:12,099 --> 00:43:16,119 the control room and they played it and 952 00:43:13,780 --> 00:43:18,460 not a lot was said and I said I will 953 00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:22,239 well thank you very much goodbye and 954 00:43:18,460 --> 00:43:24,369 left and I was convinced it would never 955 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:26,739 see the light of day because they hadn't 956 00:43:24,369 --> 00:43:30,069 commented they hadn't made any do not I 957 00:43:26,739 --> 00:43:31,899 mean they hadn't said great faithful 958 00:43:30,070 --> 00:43:35,140 nothing 959 00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:40,900 greatly it is slightly different from 960 00:43:35,139 --> 00:43:44,190 the rest of the album and I think it is 961 00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:48,338 because there's an outside influence 962 00:43:44,190 --> 00:43:50,230 which is somebody else came in happened 963 00:43:48,338 --> 00:43:51,998 to be me could it could have been I 964 00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:57,159 don't know could have been Vicky brown 965 00:43:51,998 --> 00:44:00,509 then or saxophone player but but with 966 00:43:57,159 --> 00:44:05,018 the voice you you get a whole different 967 00:44:00,509 --> 00:44:07,210 input some different mindset and I think 968 00:44:05,018 --> 00:44:09,909 that's what perhaps why it stands out 969 00:44:07,210 --> 00:44:13,210 because it is not the four people in the 970 00:44:09,909 --> 00:44:16,088 band that have totally done it it 971 00:44:13,210 --> 00:44:17,858 there's an outside influence the use of 972 00:44:16,088 --> 00:44:20,558 Clare Torry on the album is something 973 00:44:17,858 --> 00:44:22,358 that I think every female vocalist 974 00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:25,630 whoever you are has got to listen to and 975 00:44:22,358 --> 00:44:27,369 aspire to you know maybe one day I will 976 00:44:25,630 --> 00:44:32,559 crack that whole piece and I'll just be 977 00:44:27,369 --> 00:44:35,680 the happiest person alone it's a taxing 978 00:44:32,559 --> 00:44:39,789 piece to sing from beginning to end and 979 00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:44,919 in fact I believe well believe that when 980 00:44:39,789 --> 00:44:47,079 Floyd or Roger have they don't always do 981 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:52,170 greatly in the sky but if they have the 982 00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:56,400 free backing vocalists do a third each 983 00:44:52,170 --> 00:44:56,400 makes it it's exhausting 984 00:44:56,789 --> 00:45:02,579 this the ultimate Floyd album captured 985 00:45:00,489 --> 00:45:05,709 just the right blend of lyricism 986 00:45:02,579 --> 00:45:10,170 inspired instrumental passages sound 987 00:45:05,710 --> 00:45:10,170 effects and genuine musical innovation 988 00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:15,070 just how to follow up a massive success 989 00:45:13,059 --> 00:45:16,750 without disappointing the public is 990 00:45:15,070 --> 00:45:19,180 always regarded as one of the most 991 00:45:16,750 --> 00:45:20,860 difficult tasks in music the response 992 00:45:19,179 --> 00:45:23,469 from Pink Floyd to the worldwide acclaim 993 00:45:20,860 --> 00:45:26,070 for Dark Side of the Moon was to deliver 994 00:45:23,469 --> 00:45:29,409 wish you were here released in September 995 00:45:26,070 --> 00:45:31,330 1975 a classic recording which in many 996 00:45:29,409 --> 00:45:33,609 respects out shown its illustrious 997 00:45:31,329 --> 00:45:35,739 predecessor when I think about it I can 998 00:45:33,610 --> 00:45:38,530 still see his eyes it was everything 999 00:45:35,739 --> 00:45:41,319 else service it's different seven years 1000 00:45:38,530 --> 00:45:42,730 but no contact and then to walk in while 1001 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,670 we're actually doing that particular 1002 00:45:42,730 --> 00:45:48,119 track didn't recognize him at all he'd 1003 00:45:45,670 --> 00:45:51,880 shaven all his hair off he was about 1004 00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:53,829 probably 17 18 stone I had no idea who 1005 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,329 he was for a long time and neither did 1006 00:45:53,829 --> 00:45:58,480 anybody else I didn't think for a while 1007 00:45:55,329 --> 00:46:02,650 coincidence karma fate who knows but it 1008 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:05,139 was very very very powerful shiny new 1009 00:46:02,650 --> 00:46:07,450 crazy diamonds is a masterpiece it's a 1010 00:46:05,139 --> 00:46:09,819 masterwork it is in a way a 1011 00:46:07,449 --> 00:46:12,369 representation of their entire career up 1012 00:46:09,820 --> 00:46:15,889 to that point in one track 1013 00:46:12,369 --> 00:46:15,888 [Music] 1014 00:46:17,539 --> 00:46:23,989 I sort of knew that really we were over 1015 00:46:20,809 --> 00:46:25,400 as far as the band of brothers notion of 1016 00:46:23,989 --> 00:46:27,379 the pop group was concerned we just 1017 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:30,530 weren't anymore and we were never going 1018 00:46:27,380 --> 00:46:34,910 to be that again and so I was mourning 1019 00:46:30,530 --> 00:46:37,769 that loss as well as the loss of have 1020 00:46:34,909 --> 00:46:39,190 said as a as a friend and as a colleague 1021 00:46:37,769 --> 00:46:43,090 [Music] 1022 00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:46,148 came from just playing an a minor chord 1023 00:46:43,090 --> 00:46:46,149 [Music] 1024 00:46:46,778 --> 00:46:52,719 and just move my fingers to the wrong 1025 00:46:49,429 --> 00:46:52,719 position it could just be an accident 1026 00:46:55,268 --> 00:47:03,778 it did seem to sort of have a sort of 1027 00:46:57,818 --> 00:47:03,778 hinting cooling sounds to 1028 00:47:04,949 --> 00:47:10,689 shine on you crazy diamond with its 1029 00:47:07,838 --> 00:47:13,269 majestic introduction is arguably the 1030 00:47:10,690 --> 00:47:15,940 finest recording in the entire Pink 1031 00:47:13,269 --> 00:47:18,250 Floyd Canon once again there are no 1032 00:47:15,940 --> 00:47:21,220 fillers or throwaway numbers on this 1033 00:47:18,250 --> 00:47:23,800 flawless album every track pulls its 1034 00:47:21,219 --> 00:47:29,019 weight I think it's our best album I 1035 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:32,410 love it lyrically but I also like just 1036 00:47:29,019 --> 00:47:35,349 musically and I love the flow of it and 1037 00:47:32,409 --> 00:47:36,969 I just think I mean I I will listen to 1038 00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:40,420 that album four pleasures not many of 1039 00:47:36,969 --> 00:47:42,189 the Floyd albums I can I feel the wish 1040 00:47:40,420 --> 00:47:45,670 it were here album doesn't have a set 1041 00:47:42,190 --> 00:47:47,200 theme or a set tone every song seems to 1042 00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:50,079 be slightly different from shine on you 1043 00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:53,639 crazy diamond to the barbs of have a 1044 00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:55,750 cigar to the almost distressed 1045 00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:58,118 insouciance of welcome to the Machine 1046 00:47:55,750 --> 00:48:01,059 almost the acceptance of well what are 1047 00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:02,920 we going to do to wish you were here 1048 00:48:01,059 --> 00:48:05,289 which seems to be a longing for 1049 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,869 something that's already gone it has an 1050 00:48:05,289 --> 00:48:10,150 emotional depth that and it's a sort of 1051 00:48:07,869 --> 00:48:11,740 fairly universal I think and and I 1052 00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:16,539 suppose you could say that we haven't 1053 00:48:11,739 --> 00:48:19,328 done quite as many concerts as people 1054 00:48:16,539 --> 00:48:23,199 like the stones have or someone we've so 1055 00:48:19,329 --> 00:48:25,539 my performance is a wish over here 1056 00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:27,489 still numbering sort of three or four 1057 00:48:25,539 --> 00:48:29,769 hundreds I suppose there's no are 1058 00:48:27,489 --> 00:48:31,529 thousands or some people I do but it 1059 00:48:29,769 --> 00:48:34,389 always it still resonates it still has 1060 00:48:31,530 --> 00:48:37,500 has its meaning it means that to me 1061 00:48:34,389 --> 00:48:37,500 every time I sing it 1062 00:48:38,340 --> 00:49:06,838 [Music] 1063 00:49:06,989 --> 00:49:14,548 play that in the UM in the control room 1064 00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:14,548 of number three studio at Abbey Road and 1065 00:49:15,838 --> 00:49:20,798 it's just something I've been struggling 1066 00:49:18,099 --> 00:49:24,180 at home and Roger immediately said 1067 00:49:20,798 --> 00:49:26,528 what's that Elsa and we had just sort of 1068 00:49:24,179 --> 00:49:29,078 immediately get on with that and work it 1069 00:49:26,528 --> 00:49:31,150 up and write the rest of the musical so 1070 00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:33,880 I don't think wish you were here as a 1071 00:49:31,150 --> 00:49:36,759 song represents what the album was about 1072 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,900 so much as an element of what the album 1073 00:49:36,759 --> 00:49:39,818 was about and the album went in 1074 00:49:37,900 --> 00:49:41,949 different directions and a lot of the 1075 00:49:39,818 --> 00:49:43,900 album is couched him Syd Barrett terms 1076 00:49:41,949 --> 00:49:46,088 not in the way the music was presented 1077 00:49:43,900 --> 00:49:49,509 but in a way that they were trying to 1078 00:49:46,088 --> 00:49:50,978 bring this ghost from the past into the 1079 00:49:49,509 --> 00:49:53,438 modern environment to still make him 1080 00:49:50,978 --> 00:49:55,929 part of what they were doing because he 1081 00:49:53,438 --> 00:49:58,719 was very much still a crucial element in 1082 00:49:55,929 --> 00:50:00,879 the Pink Floyd story sadly this was to 1083 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:03,338 be the last album produced as a real 1084 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:07,119 cohesive joint effort by the entire band 1085 00:50:03,338 --> 00:50:09,239 Animals released in January 1977 was the 1086 00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:12,489 first of three Floyd albums which were 1087 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:14,978 masterminded by Roger Waters fortunately 1088 00:50:12,489 --> 00:50:18,269 the album also coincided with waters 1089 00:50:14,978 --> 00:50:21,368 reaching his very best form as a writer 1090 00:50:18,268 --> 00:50:24,188 the choice of subject matter on animals 1091 00:50:21,369 --> 00:50:26,739 is typically bleak and joyless but 1092 00:50:24,188 --> 00:50:29,219 instrumentally the band continued to 1093 00:50:26,739 --> 00:50:31,838 shine as brightly as ever 1094 00:50:29,219 --> 00:50:34,028 Rick Wright plays very much a backseat 1095 00:50:31,838 --> 00:50:36,849 role in this album he's he plays a lot 1096 00:50:34,028 --> 00:50:40,028 of pads simple backing but the lovely 1097 00:50:36,849 --> 00:50:41,679 rhodes piano intro to sheep is is one of 1098 00:50:40,028 --> 00:50:43,719 the last times we'd hear him in full 1099 00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:47,048 flow for quite some time absolutely 1100 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:49,479 excellent there were no really strong 1101 00:50:47,048 --> 00:50:52,958 melodies like us and then or Molly or 1102 00:50:49,478 --> 00:50:55,538 anything like that but just it showed 1103 00:50:52,958 --> 00:50:58,719 the depth that Roger Waters would would 1104 00:50:55,539 --> 00:51:00,849 go into to explore lyrical themes very 1105 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,338 clever lyrics a great piece of 1106 00:51:00,849 --> 00:51:06,670 composition by Roger Waters and by now 1107 00:51:03,338 --> 00:51:08,978 he was putting his indelible stamp or as 1108 00:51:06,670 --> 00:51:12,659 the leader of the direction of Pink 1109 00:51:08,978 --> 00:51:16,239 Floyd it's it was the start of a kind of 1110 00:51:12,659 --> 00:51:17,858 dispute between Roger Waters and Rick 1111 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,909 Wright their keyboard player and Dave 1112 00:51:17,858 --> 00:51:22,159 Gilmour early guitar player 1113 00:51:19,909 --> 00:51:23,989 which was sort of I think there's cotton 1114 00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:25,730 tanks written at atmosphere while we 1115 00:51:23,989 --> 00:51:27,108 were actually making that album they 1116 00:51:25,730 --> 00:51:29,929 were looking for a guitar player their 1117 00:51:27,108 --> 00:51:32,750 room manager got I've got my name I 1118 00:51:29,929 --> 00:51:35,750 think I was recommended as being an 1119 00:51:32,750 --> 00:51:39,798 ordinary guy you know could play a bit 1120 00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:41,960 and so he called me up and said the boys 1121 00:51:39,798 --> 00:51:43,900 are finishing their album want to come 1122 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:48,349 to the studio and meet them 1123 00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:52,358 that was the animals helping us 76 and 1124 00:51:48,349 --> 00:51:54,530 so I went along and I said well you've 1125 00:51:52,358 --> 00:51:58,068 told me you know can you play a bit of 1126 00:51:54,530 --> 00:52:01,849 bass I said yeah and can you want to do 1127 00:51:58,068 --> 00:52:03,710 the gig yeah I said to David Gilmour 1128 00:52:01,849 --> 00:52:06,140 yeah I'd love to do it but you know 1129 00:52:03,710 --> 00:52:08,389 maybe we should have a bit of jam so you 1130 00:52:06,139 --> 00:52:09,828 can see how apply and make sure I said I 1131 00:52:08,389 --> 00:52:12,379 think wouldn't be actually couldn't play 1132 00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:14,480 with you and I said well no not really 1133 00:52:12,380 --> 00:52:16,579 he said well that's all right then the 1134 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:20,298 first tour I did was the animals album 1135 00:52:16,579 --> 00:52:21,589 tour and that was much more free as a 1136 00:52:20,298 --> 00:52:23,239 look you know especially towards the end 1137 00:52:21,588 --> 00:52:25,308 of the set there was a lot more freedom 1138 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,439 to do bits and pieces and stretching out 1139 00:52:25,309 --> 00:52:30,048 of it often overlooked in favor of what 1140 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:32,568 went before and after animals 1141 00:52:30,048 --> 00:52:36,650 represented another milestone in the run 1142 00:52:32,568 --> 00:52:39,409 of amazing Floyd albums animals very 1143 00:52:36,650 --> 00:52:41,599 successful musically I see a little bit 1144 00:52:39,409 --> 00:52:44,719 more tugging and pulling you here can 1145 00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:47,210 hear a little bit of that as well and 1146 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,469 animals were particularly bearing you 1147 00:52:47,210 --> 00:52:49,880 know there was there was some real 1148 00:52:48,469 --> 00:52:52,038 attacks going on 1149 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,740 it was always brave whatever the Floyd 1150 00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:55,640 did was always just we're gonna do this 1151 00:52:53,739 --> 00:52:56,689 you know whether it was against the 1152 00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:58,038 record company whether it was against 1153 00:52:56,690 --> 00:52:59,809 the government whether it was against 1154 00:52:58,039 --> 00:53:01,819 the tower in the fashion they just did 1155 00:52:59,809 --> 00:53:04,310 it and I think that's really one of the 1156 00:53:01,818 --> 00:53:06,849 things that made them so successful 1157 00:53:04,309 --> 00:53:06,849 No 1158 00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:11,690 the live shows were becoming 1159 00:53:09,170 --> 00:53:14,900 increasingly elaborate this trend would 1160 00:53:11,690 --> 00:53:18,440 culminate in the spectacle of the world 1161 00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:21,260 released in November 1979 the wall was 1162 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:24,349 produced by Bob Ezrin ezrin hugely 1163 00:53:21,260 --> 00:53:26,210 deserves his producer's credit but it's 1164 00:53:24,349 --> 00:53:28,489 the chief architect of the album the 1165 00:53:26,210 --> 00:53:31,280 majority of plaudits were rightfully 1166 00:53:28,489 --> 00:53:33,409 channel towards Roger Waters who fully 1167 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:36,740 deserved the praise for his part in 1168 00:53:33,409 --> 00:53:38,989 creating what is still a milestone in 1169 00:53:36,739 --> 00:53:40,339 rock music well the war has been called 1170 00:53:38,989 --> 00:53:42,559 one of the most successful and most 1171 00:53:40,340 --> 00:53:44,450 imaginative rock albums of the the whole 1172 00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:44,779 rock era you know the 60 seventies and 1173 00:53:44,449 --> 00:53:47,210 eighties 1174 00:53:44,780 --> 00:53:49,910 because it did combine not just a 1175 00:53:47,210 --> 00:53:52,460 concept in terms of music on songs and 1176 00:53:49,909 --> 00:53:54,859 lyrics but also a visual concept as well 1177 00:53:52,460 --> 00:53:58,099 it lends itself to a much bigger more 1178 00:53:54,860 --> 00:54:00,230 experimental project so the wall kind of 1179 00:53:58,099 --> 00:54:02,690 grew and grew really became a big 1180 00:54:00,230 --> 00:54:07,369 monster out of control it was a very big 1181 00:54:02,690 --> 00:54:08,780 undertaking and it was very very well 1182 00:54:07,369 --> 00:54:12,699 done and was done to a very high 1183 00:54:08,780 --> 00:54:17,570 standard elegant powerfully affecting 1184 00:54:12,699 --> 00:54:19,460 but hugely negative in its content I 1185 00:54:17,570 --> 00:54:21,800 mean that has to be said that you know 1186 00:54:19,460 --> 00:54:24,740 if you look at the lyrics if you read 1187 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,690 the subtext of what's going on you just 1188 00:54:24,739 --> 00:54:30,829 go out and slashy wrists 1189 00:54:26,690 --> 00:54:32,000 I mean Sid appears in the wall a lot you 1190 00:54:30,829 --> 00:54:33,679 know which is where you know in the 1191 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:37,489 movie where the cigarette burns down 1192 00:54:33,679 --> 00:54:40,250 between the fingers well I went into the 1193 00:54:37,489 --> 00:54:44,989 room and saw that my friendship with him 1194 00:54:40,250 --> 00:54:49,380 and his illness combined 1195 00:54:44,989 --> 00:54:54,389 yeah provided an enormous 1196 00:54:49,380 --> 00:54:56,940 opportunity for grief it's sad it's very 1197 00:54:54,389 --> 00:54:59,190 sad I'm still very sad about it with the 1198 00:54:56,940 --> 00:55:00,929 wall he was expressing all the bricks on 1199 00:54:59,190 --> 00:55:03,900 the wall were all the things in his life 1200 00:55:00,929 --> 00:55:05,940 that upset him or made him the way was 1201 00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:08,190 that was the thing that they played on I 1202 00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:10,110 think this was largely from Rogers sense 1203 00:55:08,190 --> 00:55:12,450 of alienation he was a he was an uneasy 1204 00:55:10,110 --> 00:55:15,480 pop star I think it was fair to say and 1205 00:55:12,449 --> 00:55:17,669 he had sort of doubts about his role in 1206 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,949 some ways you know none at all in others 1207 00:55:17,670 --> 00:55:22,139 rising tensions between Roger Waters and 1208 00:55:19,949 --> 00:55:24,719 Rick Wright led to the keyboard player 1209 00:55:22,139 --> 00:55:26,549 being sacked none of them had made any 1210 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:29,519 money from the wall the wall had been 1211 00:55:26,550 --> 00:55:31,530 such an expensive production the only 1212 00:55:29,519 --> 00:55:33,840 person ironically who made him money was 1213 00:55:31,530 --> 00:55:36,210 Rick Wright the original keyboards 1214 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,400 player who had been involved in the 1215 00:55:36,210 --> 00:55:39,630 production of the wall or wanted to be 1216 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,840 involved in the production of the wall 1217 00:55:39,630 --> 00:55:45,300 but allegedly was not very active in 1218 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,130 that role and and Roger Waters had 1219 00:55:45,300 --> 00:55:48,990 demanded that he be fired from the group 1220 00:55:47,130 --> 00:55:50,789 then they realized that they haven't got 1221 00:55:48,989 --> 00:55:53,849 anywhere to play keyboards or the state 1222 00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:55,559 so they get him back in on a wage so in 1223 00:55:53,849 --> 00:55:58,230 fact he is actually the only member of 1224 00:55:55,559 --> 00:56:00,570 Pink Floyd to make any money out of the 1225 00:55:58,230 --> 00:56:03,469 wall the live shows which promoted the 1226 00:56:00,570 --> 00:56:05,820 album were an unforgettable experience 1227 00:56:03,469 --> 00:56:08,549 ambitious in their scope and their 1228 00:56:05,820 --> 00:56:11,370 staging waters themes of alienation and 1229 00:56:08,550 --> 00:56:13,590 separation took physical form with the 1230 00:56:11,369 --> 00:56:15,119 creation of a real wall and we're going 1231 00:56:13,590 --> 00:56:17,640 to see the show at the Earls Court in 1232 00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:19,199 London I'm watching the slow process of 1233 00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:21,539 building the brick wall which goes on 1234 00:56:19,199 --> 00:56:23,219 throughout the entire show gradually 1235 00:56:21,539 --> 00:56:24,960 laying this line of bricks and think 1236 00:56:23,219 --> 00:56:26,489 what are they doing how's it all going 1237 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:30,119 to resolve and of course gradually the 1238 00:56:26,489 --> 00:56:31,829 band Sapir behind me a huge barrier 1239 00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:34,440 another final moments a whole lot has 1240 00:56:31,829 --> 00:56:36,299 destroyed and smashed to pieces and 1241 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,280 larger realizes that maybe it's not a 1242 00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:40,500 good idea psychologically speaking to 1243 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:43,230 forever a mental barrier inside your 1244 00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:46,079 head well I think back I think wow there 1245 00:56:43,230 --> 00:56:47,820 was quite a big show and I and it's very 1246 00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:49,469 impressive that Roger could actually put 1247 00:56:47,820 --> 00:56:51,630 that sort of thing together technically 1248 00:56:49,469 --> 00:56:53,279 to make it work building the wall and 1249 00:56:51,630 --> 00:56:55,079 knocking it down written into the 1250 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,330 structure of the show was the nature of 1251 00:56:55,079 --> 00:57:03,150 what they termed the surrogate bat so 1252 00:56:57,329 --> 00:57:04,529 for instance the show opens with a thing 1253 00:57:03,150 --> 00:57:06,510 that is largely instrumentalists are 1254 00:57:04,530 --> 00:57:09,630 certainly a big bombastic instrumental 1255 00:57:06,510 --> 00:57:12,300 opening then the light goes down at the 1256 00:57:09,630 --> 00:57:17,430 end of the song the band's freeze the 1257 00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:19,289 image the Lancaster bomber or something 1258 00:57:17,429 --> 00:57:21,329 flies over the head of the crowd the 1259 00:57:19,289 --> 00:57:23,070 lights come up on a stage that's higher 1260 00:57:21,329 --> 00:57:24,299 than the stage that they've just seen 1261 00:57:23,070 --> 00:57:26,280 the Pink Floyd play the opening number 1262 00:57:24,300 --> 00:57:28,019 and they're on the higher stage who's 1263 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:31,320 Pink Floyd playing the second number so 1264 00:57:28,019 --> 00:57:32,789 it's like hang on you know that was Ben 1265 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,680 Floyd down there and that was the 1266 00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:35,940 illusion that they constantly played on 1267 00:57:34,679 --> 00:57:38,219 and they used what they turned the 1268 00:57:35,940 --> 00:57:44,159 surrogate band which was myself Andy 1269 00:57:38,219 --> 00:57:46,619 Bowne Willie Wilson and Pete wood as the 1270 00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:52,159 surrogates and we were given latex masks 1271 00:57:46,619 --> 00:57:55,109 and made to look exactly like Pink Floyd 1272 00:57:52,159 --> 00:57:57,750 Jones cough as I understand it created 1273 00:57:55,110 --> 00:58:01,470 the whole show entirely from the the 1274 00:57:57,750 --> 00:58:02,610 visuals to the animatronics to the stage 1275 00:58:01,469 --> 00:58:05,219 in of it you know that that was his 1276 00:58:02,610 --> 00:58:05,870 vision more than Roger Waters is massive 1277 00:58:05,219 --> 00:58:08,819 puppets 1278 00:58:05,869 --> 00:58:12,150 things that was sort of you know 30-foot 1279 00:58:08,820 --> 00:58:13,980 high and string puppets that would walk 1280 00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:15,750 across the stage that the school teacher 1281 00:58:13,980 --> 00:58:18,389 for another brick in the war was this 1282 00:58:15,750 --> 00:58:20,250 giant puppet with car headlights for 1283 00:58:18,389 --> 00:58:22,889 eyes it's a big show and the musicians 1284 00:58:20,250 --> 00:58:24,269 are just one you know a few small cogs 1285 00:58:22,889 --> 00:58:25,859 in a big machine there's a lot more 1286 00:58:24,269 --> 00:58:27,989 going on and you just make sure you get 1287 00:58:25,860 --> 00:58:29,730 your power right any note that Pink 1288 00:58:27,989 --> 00:58:32,069 Floyd could have played live was played 1289 00:58:29,730 --> 00:58:35,880 life I mean that was the bottom line 1290 00:58:32,070 --> 00:58:37,860 basically musically the orchestral 1291 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,360 pieces and things like the children's 1292 00:58:37,860 --> 00:58:42,180 voices in another brick you know we 1293 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:44,140 don't need no education that stuff was 1294 00:58:42,179 --> 00:58:47,919 pre-recorded dabbas on tapes over 1295 00:58:44,139 --> 00:58:50,230 all had to be basically played in times 1296 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:53,409 it was all linked into special effects 1297 00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:54,699 and click tracks and you know film and 1298 00:58:53,409 --> 00:58:58,019 that's everything had to be down to the 1299 00:58:54,699 --> 00:58:59,889 last second most of the time the basic 1300 00:58:58,019 --> 00:59:01,239 structure of the whole of the first half 1301 00:58:59,889 --> 00:59:02,859 of the show was the building of the wall 1302 00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:04,449 up to the point where the final brick 1303 00:59:02,860 --> 00:59:07,630 goes in and suddenly the house lights 1304 00:59:04,449 --> 00:59:09,879 come up and the audience realizes that 1305 00:59:07,630 --> 00:59:12,579 this vast structure you know it suddenly 1306 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:15,340 hits the pie cart look at that you know 1307 00:59:12,579 --> 00:59:17,199 this is 150 foot across 60 foot high 1308 00:59:15,340 --> 00:59:19,000 wherever it was you know is this vast 1309 00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:21,759 structure has been built in 45 minutes 1310 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,920 but in order to get to that point there 1311 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,260 was a piece of music built in just 1312 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:29,680 before the goodbye cruel world where 1313 00:59:26,260 --> 00:59:32,380 David and I would just trade rifts to 1314 00:59:29,679 --> 00:59:34,119 give the wall builders time to get those 1315 00:59:32,380 --> 00:59:35,650 last bricks in some nights it was slow 1316 00:59:34,119 --> 00:59:38,259 some nights you know they really had to 1317 00:59:35,650 --> 00:59:40,690 move fast and we were play for three or 1318 00:59:38,260 --> 00:59:42,790 four minutes when we got the tear down 1319 00:59:40,690 --> 00:59:46,900 the wall section I was standing inside a 1320 00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:49,960 cage on state behind the wall as the 1321 00:59:46,900 --> 00:59:52,300 wall came down and inside the cage with 1322 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:54,849 me were roadies who were holding the 1323 00:59:52,300 --> 00:59:56,890 cage up as these bricks were hammering 1324 00:59:54,849 --> 00:59:59,259 down on it and it was playing the guitar 1325 00:59:56,889 --> 01:00:02,409 riff for the tear down the walls section 1326 00:59:59,260 --> 01:00:04,840 and it was unbelievable and you would 1327 01:00:02,409 --> 01:00:06,699 have a count down on the monitors as the 1328 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,900 when the first bricks were going to come 1329 01:00:06,699 --> 01:00:09,519 because if you didn't have that warning 1330 01:00:07,900 --> 01:00:11,050 you would you know you just stopped 1331 01:00:09,519 --> 01:00:13,269 playing it was so frightening 1332 01:00:11,050 --> 01:00:14,470 I think The Legend of that show is built 1333 01:00:13,269 --> 01:00:17,739 up because there's such a tremendous 1334 01:00:14,469 --> 01:00:19,719 cachet to having been there and to 1335 01:00:17,739 --> 01:00:21,639 having experienced it because you know 1336 01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:23,109 wasn't this vast touring circus that 1337 01:00:21,639 --> 01:00:25,989 went around the world for three years 1338 01:00:23,110 --> 01:00:27,610 it's 29 shows four locations that's it 1339 01:00:25,989 --> 01:00:29,019 you know see you later 1340 01:00:27,610 --> 01:00:30,940 I knew that there were tensions in the 1341 01:00:29,019 --> 01:00:33,820 bat very interestingly Beck's Asia Earls 1342 01:00:30,940 --> 01:00:36,730 Court there were four caravans in a sort 1343 01:00:33,820 --> 01:00:38,410 of Square and three of them faced into 1344 01:00:36,730 --> 01:00:41,349 the middle of the square Rogers face the 1345 01:00:38,409 --> 01:00:44,529 other way so he didn't socialize whether 1346 01:00:41,349 --> 01:00:46,630 see now he came to the bar in 1347 01:00:44,530 --> 01:00:49,750 or the other three were always there 1348 01:00:46,630 --> 01:00:51,760 after the gig you know few scoops chats 1349 01:00:49,750 --> 01:00:52,869 and whether it was going well of what 1350 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,160 could be better and you know those 1351 01:00:52,869 --> 01:00:55,480 things that anybody would talk about 1352 01:00:54,159 --> 01:00:57,579 Africa but you know saw Roger 1353 01:00:55,480 --> 01:01:00,130 it was very much its swan song and the 1354 01:00:57,579 --> 01:01:02,319 thing was sort of corroding really 1355 01:01:00,130 --> 01:01:03,700 Allen Parker was going to shoot concept 1356 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,769 movie and there were going to be 1357 01:01:03,699 --> 01:01:07,839 dramatic highlights cut in with the 1358 01:01:05,769 --> 01:01:09,460 story that became ultimately the story 1359 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,680 of the entire movie the the thing with 1360 01:01:09,460 --> 01:01:14,050 Geldof and you know the no eyebrows 1361 01:01:11,679 --> 01:01:16,839 character and pink you know it was just 1362 01:01:14,050 --> 01:01:18,519 a big rag doll in in our show and then 1363 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,920 they just jettisoned the notion of the 1364 01:01:18,519 --> 01:01:23,940 concert at all but they filmed every 1365 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:26,289 night at Earls Court for five nights 1366 01:01:23,940 --> 01:01:28,019 multi camera shoots I mean people 1367 01:01:26,289 --> 01:01:30,639 everywhere well some people have called 1368 01:01:28,019 --> 01:01:34,869 the wall of a movie which came out in 1369 01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:37,809 1982 directed by Alan Parker a one huge 1370 01:01:34,869 --> 01:01:41,619 clip in other words lots of repetition 1371 01:01:37,809 --> 01:01:43,539 and not really focused as a movie my 1372 01:01:41,619 --> 01:01:44,949 overwhelming feeling really was of 1373 01:01:43,539 --> 01:01:46,269 disappointment I hoped it was going to 1374 01:01:44,949 --> 01:01:47,980 be a concert movie and I didn't really 1375 01:01:46,269 --> 01:01:50,259 know that it wasn't until I went to see 1376 01:01:47,980 --> 01:01:52,119 the film and I the other thing was that 1377 01:01:50,260 --> 01:01:56,110 I thought it was a shame that they 1378 01:01:52,119 --> 01:01:59,380 didn't make more of the music they used 1379 01:01:56,110 --> 01:02:02,289 the album and just remixed bits of the 1380 01:01:59,380 --> 01:02:04,720 album rather than actually approach it 1381 01:02:02,289 --> 01:02:08,259 again from scratch the bigger criticism 1382 01:02:04,719 --> 01:02:09,989 I would make is is that the movie itself 1383 01:02:08,260 --> 01:02:12,550 if you compare it with with another 1384 01:02:09,989 --> 01:02:15,869 album that made it onto the big screen 1385 01:02:12,550 --> 01:02:18,010 like that who's Tommy there's this 1386 01:02:15,869 --> 01:02:21,190 there's a lack of humor really in 1387 01:02:18,010 --> 01:02:24,850 self-parody it's all very very intense I 1388 01:02:21,190 --> 01:02:27,309 mean it is all on one level and it is 1389 01:02:24,849 --> 01:02:28,779 very extreme but I guess it had to be 1390 01:02:27,309 --> 01:02:30,909 you know there that was that was the 1391 01:02:28,780 --> 01:02:33,760 wall you know that was the concept the 1392 01:02:30,909 --> 01:02:36,449 wall always repays the listener with new 1393 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,830 insights into an amazing creation a 1394 01:02:36,449 --> 01:02:41,349 magnificent achievement which stretches 1395 01:02:38,829 --> 01:02:43,509 the horizons of Pink Floyd's musical 1396 01:02:41,349 --> 01:02:46,179 scope to include a worldwide hit single 1397 01:02:43,510 --> 01:02:49,030 an ingenious Gilbert and Sullivan 1398 01:02:46,179 --> 01:02:52,319 pastiche and two genuine highlights from 1399 01:02:49,030 --> 01:02:55,089 the Floyd repertoire run like hell and 1400 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:57,170 comfortably numb' 1401 01:02:55,088 --> 01:02:59,059 david gilmour came up with a song 1402 01:02:57,170 --> 01:03:01,190 comfortably numb' the fact that it did 1403 01:02:59,059 --> 01:03:04,549 sneak onto the album opposite if if 1404 01:03:01,190 --> 01:03:06,740 indeed that was the case was was was of 1405 01:03:04,550 --> 01:03:09,950 great credit to Dave Gilmour really and 1406 01:03:06,739 --> 01:03:12,858 because obviously to interrupt Roger 1407 01:03:09,949 --> 01:03:16,129 Waters is you know tunnel vision about 1408 01:03:12,858 --> 01:03:18,108 that record whose amazing thing in 1409 01:03:16,130 --> 01:03:19,550 itself in a strange kind of way it's 1410 01:03:18,108 --> 01:03:21,529 almost like their greatest hits album 1411 01:03:19,550 --> 01:03:23,869 because you've got these much sort of 1412 01:03:21,530 --> 01:03:26,420 tighter pieces of writing much more 1413 01:03:23,869 --> 01:03:29,088 controlled it's it's less of the very 1414 01:03:26,420 --> 01:03:32,269 long expensive dark side of the moon 1415 01:03:29,088 --> 01:03:34,068 sort of a continuous and saga it gave 1416 01:03:32,269 --> 01:03:36,619 them the chance to produce hit singles 1417 01:03:34,068 --> 01:03:38,029 which took everybody by surprise as far 1418 01:03:36,619 --> 01:03:40,190 as the strength of music is concerned 1419 01:03:38,030 --> 01:03:42,710 with the wall obviously with tracks like 1420 01:03:40,190 --> 01:03:44,300 comfortably numb' and not the brick in 1421 01:03:42,710 --> 01:03:47,900 the wall part two you can't you can't 1422 01:03:44,300 --> 01:03:52,670 say anything about strong and I think 1423 01:03:47,900 --> 01:03:55,130 the strangest thing is that the room to 1424 01:03:52,670 --> 01:03:57,680 me does sound a little bit like a 1425 01:03:55,130 --> 01:03:59,240 soundtrack album I think when he 1426 01:03:57,679 --> 01:04:04,309 initially bought their album you felt 1427 01:03:59,239 --> 01:04:06,169 that it wasn't quite a whole in itself 1428 01:04:04,309 --> 01:04:09,108 was just it was it was an element and 1429 01:04:06,170 --> 01:04:13,590 you needed to bolt on the other bits and 1430 01:04:09,108 --> 01:04:15,480 pieces to get the full floyd experience 1431 01:04:13,590 --> 01:04:17,519 with the departure of Richard Wright 1432 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,949 Pink Floyd began the eighties as a 1433 01:04:17,519 --> 01:04:22,259 three-piece with Roger Waters as the 1434 01:04:19,949 --> 01:04:24,689 real power in the band this 1435 01:04:22,260 --> 01:04:27,150 disproportionate spoiler control was 1436 01:04:24,690 --> 01:04:30,510 evident in the next album the final cut 1437 01:04:27,150 --> 01:04:32,519 released back in March 1983 the 1438 01:04:30,510 --> 01:04:35,220 overriding impression from this Schill 1439 01:04:32,519 --> 01:04:39,349 favorite outing is one of a Roger Waters 1440 01:04:35,219 --> 01:04:41,099 solo album the credits tell you very 1441 01:04:39,349 --> 01:04:44,219 categorically that this is a Roger 1442 01:04:41,099 --> 01:04:47,309 Waters work and the fact that he didn't 1443 01:04:44,219 --> 01:04:49,769 really involve the others really showed 1444 01:04:47,309 --> 01:04:51,480 his disinterest in keeping the group 1445 01:04:49,769 --> 01:04:53,730 going the final cut 1446 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,920 dwell Zahn the politics and social 1447 01:04:53,730 --> 01:04:58,409 landscape of Britain in the early 1980s 1448 01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:00,269 the focus is incredibly narrow and 1449 01:04:58,409 --> 01:05:02,429 kurama's be lifted from an editorial 1450 01:05:00,269 --> 01:05:05,489 meeting of the Guardian Roger's 1451 01:05:02,429 --> 01:05:07,739 newspaper of choice the atmosphere of 1452 01:05:05,489 --> 01:05:10,619 the album is relentlessly downbeat and 1453 01:05:07,739 --> 01:05:12,449 with no melodic or instrumental relief 1454 01:05:10,619 --> 01:05:15,239 the darkness and bitterness are 1455 01:05:12,449 --> 01:05:19,619 overwhelming what is different is that 1456 01:05:15,239 --> 01:05:22,579 that Bob Ezrin had been dismissed from 1457 01:05:19,619 --> 01:05:24,989 the camp because he'd he had 1458 01:05:22,579 --> 01:05:28,049 inadvertently told an American 1459 01:05:24,989 --> 01:05:31,289 journalist that that's the the finale of 1460 01:05:28,050 --> 01:05:33,420 the wall stage show would involve it 1461 01:05:31,289 --> 01:05:36,599 basically being demolished 1462 01:05:33,420 --> 01:05:38,849 so he's replaced by Michael Kaman who's 1463 01:05:36,599 --> 01:05:40,170 capable who's a great catalyst he's one 1464 01:05:38,849 --> 01:05:43,019 of those people who can bring everyone 1465 01:05:40,170 --> 01:05:46,740 together and his energy in the studio on 1466 01:05:43,019 --> 01:05:48,599 final cut was very important so he could 1467 01:05:46,739 --> 01:05:49,979 have badgered I mean if he's such an up 1468 01:05:48,599 --> 01:05:51,779 figure you could imagine it could have 1469 01:05:49,980 --> 01:05:53,969 been a lot even more down than it 1470 01:05:51,780 --> 01:05:56,100 already is if he hadn't been there Pink 1471 01:05:53,969 --> 01:05:58,529 Floyd never turd with the final cut 1472 01:05:56,099 --> 01:06:01,980 really because I think no one wanted to 1473 01:05:58,530 --> 01:06:04,380 turn particularly Roger Waters didn't 1474 01:06:01,980 --> 01:06:06,090 want to turn he really seemed to want to 1475 01:06:04,380 --> 01:06:08,130 get out of the whole thing at that point 1476 01:06:06,090 --> 01:06:10,079 there is a strong feeling that we are 1477 01:06:08,130 --> 01:06:11,910 revisiting exactly the same somatic 1478 01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:13,889 landscape as the war with its 1479 01:06:11,909 --> 01:06:16,469 exploration of the damaging effect of 1480 01:06:13,889 --> 01:06:18,960 the sacrifices made in war we are very 1481 01:06:16,469 --> 01:06:20,669 much stuck in the same territory well if 1482 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,980 you look at something you know peace 1483 01:06:20,670 --> 01:06:24,809 a piece of music like the war you're 1484 01:06:22,980 --> 01:06:25,929 hardly going to better that so 1485 01:06:24,809 --> 01:06:28,029 everything is going to be dead 1486 01:06:25,929 --> 01:06:31,690 from there no matter what you try at 1487 01:06:28,030 --> 01:06:33,130 least for a short period of time so when 1488 01:06:31,690 --> 01:06:34,450 you bring something out like the final 1489 01:06:33,130 --> 01:06:37,869 cut I think it's going to look at it in 1490 01:06:34,449 --> 01:06:39,669 that context I think it's on recorders 1491 01:06:37,869 --> 01:06:41,410 as we going down that a lot of the 1492 01:06:39,670 --> 01:06:43,780 pieces were leftover pieces from the war 1493 01:06:41,409 --> 01:06:46,598 which is where Dave Gilmour got a little 1494 01:06:43,780 --> 01:06:47,920 upset with things even the photograph on 1495 01:06:46,599 --> 01:06:50,470 the album sleeve that the soldier 1496 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:52,329 holding film cans was been cleanly 1497 01:06:50,469 --> 01:06:54,699 knifed in the back has been widely 1498 01:06:52,329 --> 01:06:56,559 interpreted as a reference to Rogers 1499 01:06:54,699 --> 01:07:01,480 frustrations of the creation of the 1500 01:06:56,559 --> 01:07:05,079 memory a significant aspect of the final 1501 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:08,760 cut is that Pink Floyd no longer used 1502 01:07:05,079 --> 01:07:12,220 hypnosis to design the cover instead 1503 01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:15,490 Roger Waters and there decides that he 1504 01:07:12,219 --> 01:07:17,500 will design the cover himself there by 1505 01:07:15,489 --> 01:07:18,068 almost proving that it's just a Roger 1506 01:07:17,500 --> 01:07:20,588 Waters 1507 01:07:18,068 --> 01:07:22,539 solo album the final cut is certainly 1508 01:07:20,588 --> 01:07:25,509 not a brilliant album it's brilliantly 1509 01:07:22,539 --> 01:07:27,338 played brutally executed but it does 1510 01:07:25,510 --> 01:07:31,109 lack the feel of things for instance 1511 01:07:27,338 --> 01:07:34,458 like back side of the moon 1512 01:07:31,108 --> 01:07:37,889 and to a lot of people of course the war 1513 01:07:34,458 --> 01:07:40,139 and so on but I think the album stood 1514 01:07:37,889 --> 01:07:41,998 the test of time extremely well when you 1515 01:07:40,139 --> 01:07:43,788 listen to it today I think it's a more 1516 01:07:41,998 --> 01:07:46,348 valid piece today because it is a 1517 01:07:43,789 --> 01:07:49,349 historical document at the time not just 1518 01:07:46,349 --> 01:07:51,390 of Roger Waters you know creating a 1519 01:07:49,349 --> 01:07:53,818 testament to his father but it's 1520 01:07:51,389 --> 01:07:55,318 actually a sign of the times in the 80s 1521 01:07:53,818 --> 01:07:58,469 for which most of us we can remember 1522 01:07:55,318 --> 01:08:01,048 quite well as a result of a dispute with 1523 01:07:58,469 --> 01:08:03,208 manager Steve O'Rourke Roger Waters 1524 01:08:01,048 --> 01:08:04,409 wrote to the record companies informing 1525 01:08:03,208 --> 01:08:07,498 them that he would no longer be 1526 01:08:04,409 --> 01:08:08,998 recording with Pink Floyd waters clearly 1527 01:08:07,498 --> 01:08:12,419 felt that this maneuver would signal the 1528 01:08:08,998 --> 01:08:14,308 end of the group Rodgers saw it as the 1529 01:08:12,420 --> 01:08:16,139 final cut you know that's the titleist 1530 01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:17,219 since the end of Floyd and he probably 1531 01:08:16,139 --> 01:08:20,279 thought that's what was going to happen 1532 01:08:17,219 --> 01:08:24,270 of course it would he's absolutely 1533 01:08:20,279 --> 01:08:27,690 shocked when he learns that the other 1534 01:08:24,270 --> 01:08:29,880 two members as they then were Dave 1535 01:08:27,689 --> 01:08:31,858 Gilmour and Nick Mason intend to carry 1536 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:34,920 on with the group's name but he only 1537 01:08:31,859 --> 01:08:37,230 learns this when he essentially issues 1538 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:39,239 them with legal papers saying that the 1539 01:08:37,229 --> 01:08:42,088 group is to be disbanded and the name is 1540 01:08:39,238 --> 01:08:44,399 to exist no more the final chance 1541 01:08:42,088 --> 01:08:47,250 despite everything Morris could throw at 1542 01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:49,738 him Gilmour and Mason emerged victorious 1543 01:08:47,250 --> 01:08:52,529 they had won the right to use the Pink 1544 01:08:49,738 --> 01:08:54,959 Floyd name and in a further calculated 1545 01:08:52,529 --> 01:08:56,969 snub to waters they hooked up again with 1546 01:08:54,960 --> 01:09:01,109 Richard Wright and produced a new album 1547 01:08:56,969 --> 01:09:03,989 backed by a huge world tour for legal 1548 01:09:01,109 --> 01:09:05,639 and tax reasons Richard Wright was not 1549 01:09:03,988 --> 01:09:08,009 officially a full member of the band 1550 01:09:05,639 --> 01:09:10,650 again despite the fact that he was a 1551 01:09:08,009 --> 01:09:13,380 founder member legally Floyd when our 1552 01:09:10,649 --> 01:09:15,108 duo with a hired keyboard player on 1553 01:09:13,380 --> 01:09:18,260 wages 1554 01:09:15,109 --> 01:09:20,350 the album which emerged was entitled a 1555 01:09:18,260 --> 01:09:22,640 momentary lapse of reason and 1556 01:09:20,350 --> 01:09:23,720 demonstrated there was still plenty of 1557 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,820 life in the band 1558 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,890 even without waters I think moment 1559 01:09:25,819 --> 01:09:30,139 relapse a reason was a fantastic rebirth 1560 01:09:27,890 --> 01:09:32,030 the band wrote relapse the reason 1561 01:09:30,140 --> 01:09:33,920 certainly did breathe new life into the 1562 01:09:32,029 --> 01:09:36,979 group I mean it got them up and running 1563 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:38,750 again on actually a much larger scale 1564 01:09:36,979 --> 01:09:40,549 than previously there was a huge 1565 01:09:38,750 --> 01:09:42,529 appetite for Pink Floyd's music and a 1566 01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:44,119 colossal amount of goodwill the fans 1567 01:09:42,529 --> 01:09:46,159 really wanted something which sounded 1568 01:09:44,119 --> 01:09:48,289 like the Floyd of old and sensing the 1569 01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:50,569 mood David Gilmour was able to produce 1570 01:09:48,289 --> 01:09:52,869 an album which just about passed muster 1571 01:09:50,569 --> 01:09:55,340 although the estranged Roger Waters 1572 01:09:52,869 --> 01:09:58,609 notoriously dismissed the album as a 1573 01:09:55,340 --> 01:10:01,550 facsimile of the Floyd sound I think it 1574 01:09:58,609 --> 01:10:04,519 was a sort of a it was modest obviously 1575 01:10:01,550 --> 01:10:07,909 a very much hid in the in the Pink Floyd 1576 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:10,130 style but I think really was a sort of a 1577 01:10:07,909 --> 01:10:12,050 transition for for David who was very 1578 01:10:10,130 --> 01:10:15,319 much at the helm was particularly at 1579 01:10:12,050 --> 01:10:17,900 that point of doing if he was it kind of 1580 01:10:15,319 --> 01:10:20,059 set up I'm sure he didn't by me saying 1581 01:10:17,899 --> 01:10:22,309 so really in a way but obviously 1582 01:10:20,060 --> 01:10:24,200 including the advertising and the band 1583 01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:26,450 but because they'd been I don't know 1584 01:10:24,199 --> 01:10:28,069 seven eight years as ever got elapsed 1585 01:10:26,449 --> 01:10:31,779 since they've done it it was kind of 1586 01:10:28,069 --> 01:10:34,699 that very much kind of a fresh take on 1587 01:10:31,779 --> 01:10:36,949 Bob Ezrin is brought back for momentary 1588 01:10:34,699 --> 01:10:38,960 lapse of reason obviously to her 1589 01:10:36,949 --> 01:10:40,819 supporters is never liked her and so 1590 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,710 there's no problems and he's you know 1591 01:10:40,819 --> 01:10:44,659 he's a proven commodity it's been proven 1592 01:10:42,710 --> 01:10:47,840 he works he's almost second to none as a 1593 01:10:44,659 --> 01:10:49,340 producer anyway and I think it's the 1594 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,650 results speak for themselves 1595 01:10:49,340 --> 01:10:53,750 Pink Floyd began an enormous trek around 1596 01:10:51,649 --> 01:10:56,989 the stadiums of Europe and North America 1597 01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:59,779 playing to huge crowds which easily 1598 01:10:56,989 --> 01:11:03,170 eclipsed the thin crowds which attended 1599 01:10:59,779 --> 01:11:06,289 waters solo tour ice by chance got asked 1600 01:11:03,170 --> 01:11:08,149 to do roger waters first solo tour the 1601 01:11:06,289 --> 01:11:12,470 pros and cons of hitch hiking so I've 1602 01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:15,259 done that and I suppose that kind of put 1603 01:11:12,470 --> 01:11:16,730 me in in a bit of a you know kind of who 1604 01:11:15,260 --> 01:11:19,400 should we get to play rhythm guitar ah 1605 01:11:16,729 --> 01:11:21,259 he seems to be alright you know so I've 1606 01:11:19,399 --> 01:11:23,119 actually got a call to do that much to 1607 01:11:21,260 --> 01:11:25,039 my surprise I think David rang me 1608 01:11:23,119 --> 01:11:27,140 personally to start with it was the very 1609 01:11:25,039 --> 01:11:29,239 first sort of introduc 1610 01:11:27,140 --> 01:11:31,880 just to see you know what I'd like to be 1611 01:11:29,239 --> 01:11:33,739 involved and obviously I was you know 1612 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,869 sounds like a fantastic idea initially 1613 01:11:33,739 --> 01:11:38,210 was a belief plan to just go out for a 1614 01:11:35,869 --> 01:11:39,619 number of weeks just in America and they 1615 01:11:38,210 --> 01:11:41,210 weren't really quite sure how it was 1616 01:11:39,619 --> 01:11:44,390 going to all go but it very quickly 1617 01:11:41,210 --> 01:11:47,029 became apparent that some that's a lot 1618 01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:48,710 of demand for it so he came to it 1619 01:11:47,029 --> 01:11:50,989 changed from a sound of a few weeks in 1620 01:11:48,710 --> 01:11:54,310 America to what will ended up to 16 1621 01:11:50,989 --> 01:11:59,840 months around the world twice basically 1622 01:11:54,310 --> 01:12:01,430 huge life-changing thing there were 1623 01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:06,980 great sort of come camraderie within the 1624 01:12:01,430 --> 01:12:09,860 back instantly very well both very good 1625 01:12:06,979 --> 01:12:12,529 very very friendly balance of people at 1626 01:12:09,859 --> 01:12:14,869 the beginning of the tour only performed 1627 01:12:12,529 --> 01:12:17,329 that the new numbers from them momentary 1628 01:12:14,869 --> 01:12:19,970 lapse of reason and he hadn't really 1629 01:12:17,329 --> 01:12:23,689 been released in fact I think when we 1630 01:12:19,970 --> 01:12:26,329 when we started out we were released I 1631 01:12:23,689 --> 01:12:28,429 think that played the first few gigs my 1632 01:12:26,329 --> 01:12:30,380 album wasn't actually out so this plane 1633 01:12:28,430 --> 01:12:32,180 that people just didn't recognize this 1634 01:12:30,380 --> 01:12:33,409 stuff at all they're given that the 1635 01:12:32,180 --> 01:12:34,789 response was fantastic 1636 01:12:33,409 --> 01:12:36,139 really he basically tried to keep each 1637 01:12:34,789 --> 01:12:38,539 other to two numbers obviously the 1638 01:12:36,140 --> 01:12:40,539 payment was more associated with and the 1639 01:12:38,539 --> 01:12:42,829 sang and contributed to the writing off 1640 01:12:40,539 --> 01:12:45,260 so that's sort of narrowed it down a 1641 01:12:42,829 --> 01:12:47,840 fair bit it's the best period for Pink 1642 01:12:45,260 --> 01:12:51,710 Floyd life that I have ever seen it went 1643 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:52,970 down so I'm pretty sure because most of 1644 01:12:51,710 --> 01:12:55,279 the public didn't really expect to ever 1645 01:12:52,970 --> 01:12:56,930 see people playing anything so it was 1646 01:12:55,279 --> 01:12:57,619 kind of a you know from out of nowhere 1647 01:12:56,930 --> 01:12:59,240 comes 1648 01:12:57,619 --> 01:13:01,489 well this baton didn't think we'd ever 1649 01:12:59,239 --> 01:13:04,519 see and and in the past they'd been very 1650 01:13:01,489 --> 01:13:05,899 very difficult to catch life so suddenly 1651 01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,999 it became kind of available you know in 1652 01:13:05,899 --> 01:13:09,498 your town you know 1653 01:13:07,998 --> 01:13:11,389 a particularly America I mean the 1654 01:13:09,498 --> 01:13:14,358 response was fantastic before playing a 1655 01:13:11,389 --> 01:13:16,279 note a great deal of excitement and 1656 01:13:14,359 --> 01:13:19,669 anticipation and stuff going on the 1657 01:13:16,279 --> 01:13:22,549 Division Bell released in April 1994 was 1658 01:13:19,668 --> 01:13:25,429 an altogether superior effort careful 1659 01:13:22,548 --> 01:13:28,099 studied and mannered the album flows 1660 01:13:25,429 --> 01:13:30,859 together as a suite of songs there are 1661 01:13:28,099 --> 01:13:33,469 no dramatic dynamic peaks and troughs or 1662 01:13:30,859 --> 01:13:35,899 extremes of tempo but the smooth 1663 01:13:33,469 --> 01:13:38,628 majestic flow of the music worked its 1664 01:13:35,899 --> 01:13:40,969 magic on audiences on both sides of the 1665 01:13:38,628 --> 01:13:43,788 Atlantic and for the first time in 1666 01:13:40,969 --> 01:13:46,248 history Pink Floyd had an album which 1667 01:13:43,788 --> 01:13:47,658 went to number one in both Britain and 1668 01:13:46,248 --> 01:13:51,019 America 1669 01:13:47,658 --> 01:13:52,998 I love the Division Bell I just think 1670 01:13:51,019 --> 01:13:55,519 it's classic Floyd completely you know 1671 01:13:52,998 --> 01:13:59,729 you don't have necessarily the angry 1672 01:13:55,519 --> 01:14:01,980 side of earlier Floyd 1673 01:13:59,729 --> 01:14:04,459 Nick Mason and Rick Wright were now 1674 01:14:01,979 --> 01:14:07,738 fully functional and part of the team 1675 01:14:04,460 --> 01:14:10,500 but with Dave Gilmour not being a dab 1676 01:14:07,738 --> 01:14:13,079 hand at writing lyrics he enlisted the 1677 01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:15,238 help of his wife to be Polly Sampson and 1678 01:14:13,079 --> 01:14:18,630 also Nick Laird clues of the dream 1679 01:14:15,238 --> 01:14:21,299 Academy to help him together with other 1680 01:14:18,630 --> 01:14:23,159 collaborators the songwriting tended to 1681 01:14:21,300 --> 01:14:25,710 be a little diluted compared with 1682 01:14:23,159 --> 01:14:28,349 previous efforts where momentary lapse 1683 01:14:25,710 --> 01:14:30,569 of reason had perhaps been a collection 1684 01:14:28,350 --> 01:14:34,200 of songs that he'd been unable to use in 1685 01:14:30,569 --> 01:14:38,219 the previous Pink Floyd lineup cluster1 1686 01:14:34,199 --> 01:14:41,159 is a great example of exactly how good 1687 01:14:38,220 --> 01:14:44,239 this band could still be some 30 years 1688 01:14:41,159 --> 01:14:44,238 after his birth 1689 01:14:48,789 --> 01:14:53,170 [Music] 1690 01:14:50,100 --> 01:14:55,780 the tall which supported the album was 1691 01:14:53,170 --> 01:14:58,090 also something of a triumph it featured 1692 01:14:55,779 --> 01:15:00,279 an even better and more advanced light 1693 01:14:58,090 --> 01:15:03,670 show than anything which had gone before 1694 01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:05,800 and pulse the live album taken from the 1695 01:15:03,670 --> 01:15:07,840 tour beautifully captured what was 1696 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:10,329 certainly a career highlight for Pink 1697 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:12,760 Floyd Richard Wright was also back in 1698 01:15:10,329 --> 01:15:15,670 the fold and as a full member of Pink 1699 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:17,140 Floyd in many respects it seemed as if 1700 01:15:15,670 --> 01:15:19,659 the band had reached the limits of its 1701 01:15:17,140 --> 01:15:21,969 creativity and in fact its commercial 1702 01:15:19,659 --> 01:15:22,479 success there was almost nowhere else to 1703 01:15:21,969 --> 01:15:24,909 go 1704 01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,809 following the death of long-term manager 1705 01:15:24,909 --> 01:15:27,550 Steve O'Rourke 1706 01:15:25,810 --> 01:15:30,730 David Gilmour announced to the world 1707 01:15:27,550 --> 01:15:32,710 that he felt disinclined to continue to 1708 01:15:30,729 --> 01:15:36,579 carry the weight of the Floyd juggernaut 1709 01:15:32,710 --> 01:15:39,039 upon his shoulders if there ever was a 1710 01:15:36,579 --> 01:15:41,649 good example of the old adage that it's 1711 01:15:39,039 --> 01:15:44,170 best to quit at the top then this was it 1712 01:15:41,649 --> 01:15:46,929 Pink Floyd bowing out of the recording 1713 01:15:44,170 --> 01:15:49,420 studio in 1994 with a magnificent 1714 01:15:46,930 --> 01:15:52,180 best-selling album a gigantic or 1715 01:15:49,420 --> 01:15:54,730 inspiring live show a wonderful musical 1716 01:15:52,180 --> 01:15:57,520 legacy and an unmatched reputation for 1717 01:15:54,729 --> 01:16:01,569 excellence all left blissfully intact 1718 01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:04,060 with no sad decline into mediocrity to 1719 01:16:01,569 --> 01:16:07,908 taint the brilliance 1720 01:16:04,060 --> 01:16:07,909 [Music] 1721 01:16:10,020 --> 01:16:27,740 [Music] 1722 01:16:27,220 --> 01:16:47,449 [Applause] 1723 01:16:27,739 --> 01:16:47,449 [Music] 194775

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