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Design for me is desire
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to create emotionally
aesthetic, stimulating
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perfection.
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It's very difficult,
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if not impossible
to achieve perfection.
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So, you're never
completely satisfied.
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That unsatisfied feeling,
although it sounds negative,
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is actually what drives
the designer to do it better
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the next chance he's got.
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I don't know what I could do
that is more
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appropriate than design to
sort of satisfy that craving.
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Anything that's not perfect,
you gotta...
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You gotta make it perfect.
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Look at that.
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My gosh!
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That's really cool.
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I love these, miss.!
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That's Steve McQueen's.
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I'm the most
curious person I know.
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It's fascinating for me
just to realize
that I'm still a kid.
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Of course,
your body gets older,
but my mind is
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probably more curious
than I was...
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Even when I was very young.
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It just gets more curious
all the time.
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I remember when I was
about 10 years old,
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I experienced my first awakening
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when I first saw my,
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first Jaguar E-Type.
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I can even tell you the date.
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March 19, 1969.
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My father and I
were walking hand in hand
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and there's this E-Type
just parked there.
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It just stopped in my tracks.
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I... I had never
seen one before.
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Remember staying there
so long that
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I actually broke out crying
when my father took...
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Pulled me away and said,
"That's long enough.
You've seen it."
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It really was a sensual
feeling, I guess,
at that moment.
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I couldn't believe that
something could be so perfect.
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Just down
to the shape of the car.
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You know, love at first sight.
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That was the most
important thing.
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It's like finding
something that finally
makes sense to you.
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I don't know of anybody else
who so consistently has just
made amazing things.
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It's nice.
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I mean, I love the cars
that he's made.
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The McLaren...
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So wide,
and just the angles on it,
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I think they're super sexy.
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Between the Minis,
the Fiat 500s,
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the, um, BMW X5s,
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when you just drive around
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and you're not even
thinking about Frank,
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Frank's in front
of you every day.
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So, in California...
Many maniacs.
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And be nice to Frank
so he could sign the car
just to have a...
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"Here. It's... It's my design."
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There we are.
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Lovely!
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So, I've been in the
industry for 30 years now,
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and I've gone everywhere,
every way
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and every direction.
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From working on, say,
your entry level vehicles
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up to way over
to the other extremes.
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Now that I've, you know,
established myself pretty well
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in the industry
and, have a name,
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I can choose my own projects
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and do what I want to do.
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Not my car.
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I'm not the biggest admirer
of big, flash cars,
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although I have to design
some of them.
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I'm perfectly satisfied
with something that
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is small and fun to get to.
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I mean, there's so many
carbon fiber pieces
for this car that it's...
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Probably is worth more
than parts
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than it is in reality.
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I've designed the wings for it
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which eventually will set.
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When ready, we'll set up here.
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Sort of in that kind of
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angle there.
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So, this is
gonna be my snorkel
to take air in
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through this scoop here
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so there's almost
a three-scooper.
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Two snorkels on the roof
and one here
that'll take air in
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and feed it to the turbos.
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What turbos?
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I have here everything that
kind of inspires me about
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the whole world of design.
I mean, I know I've got
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a few cars, but there's a
lot of other things here too.
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Um...
Lots of sketches.
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Earlier sketches.
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Um, notes
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of different projects
that I'm working on.
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Um...
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Inspirations from nature,
wolves.
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I have this empathy with them.
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They seem to be dealing
with harsh circumstances
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and somehow
they come out on top.
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Hi.
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You know, when you feel like
you've been something
in your prior life,
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I would swear that I was a
wolf or some animal like that.
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Wolves are always trying to
be at the top of its pack.
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A designer has to have that
bite to compete
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because the whole thing
about design
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is finding a new way to do
something that nobody...
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Nobody's thought of before.
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That's what moves
the world forward.
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Your whole objective
as a designer is to
bring innovation,
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not just to design
a pretty picture.
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Yeah, when it starts working,
it starts doing this.
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It's gonna be cool.
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One of the things that
we're trying to achieve
is to try to make a jet
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as efficient as possible.
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What you learn from water
applies often to
what works near.
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That's why we're basically
studying the maritime
creatures.
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We're taking
a bit of inspiration from,
the hammerhead shark,
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specifically because it has...
Has what we call canards
in the front.
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Canards provide lift on a jet.
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Working with the rest
of the overall shape,
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we're looking at something
manta ray direction
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because of the shape of it,
and the fluidity of it,
and how...
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How beautiful it looks
when it's going
through water.
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Just absolutely, a work of art.
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For most people, I think
generally, it's considered
science fiction,
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but eventually,
we're not really gonna
need cars anymore.
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There'll be other apparatuses
that help us to get around.
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So I'm kind of excited
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about the future evolution
of transportation.
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As a child, I really liked
dynamic, stimulating shapes.
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Everything that had
some kind of emotional
movement to it.
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Just before I graduated at 17,
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I'd met somebody who was
actually riding Motocross,
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and he invited me to watch
him race, a couple of races,
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and obviously, it's, you know,
it's like a spark.
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The Motocross bike,
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it's like a mechanical animal,
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a fast mechanical animal.
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Like a dog tugging at the leash.
You have to almost hold it back.
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What I did was ask my father
if I could have a bike to race.
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So he said, "Sure, yeah,
get it out of your system
if you need to."
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First year of racing,
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I won the national championship
in junior class
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that eventually ended up
with a professional contract
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to turn motorcycle racing
into my life.
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My father loved racing.
He loved being with me
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and experiencing
the same excitement
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that I experienced racing
the bike at its limits.
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And, you know,
kids always say,
you know,
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"My father's the best
in the world."
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My father really
was the best in the world.
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He taught me and my brother
before we were like even
10 years old how to drive,
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and he would give me the keys
and I would drive
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on the Spanish highways,
as a kid.
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He wanted to just teach us,
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my brother and I both,
everything he could teach us.
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Not wait.
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I think he just
loved us to death.
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Me and my father,
we used to do this
all the time.
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We had my bikes and,
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we had to get them ready,
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and basically, at every race
you take your bike apart
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and check it and replace parts
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and make sure
everything's perfect,
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and then you put it
back together again,
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and we used to do this
all the time.
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Eventually, I had a mechanic
do all this stuff for me,
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and that took away
half the pleasure of
getting ready during the week.
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Hair is still there.
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That's, yeah, that's my mother
and my father.
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And you're in there.
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There's Lalo.
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This was a lot, lot before.
This was late '70s, um...
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This collection here,
it's a treasure,
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treasure chest of...
Of iconic motorcycles.
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Not only are they beautiful,
but they are aesthetically
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and functionally optimized,
I'd say.
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Not overly adding surfaces
that you don't need
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or volumes of surfaces
that you need.
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There's no fat.
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What we've got here is,
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Motocross bike.
It's a Montesa.
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This really brings
back the memories for me.
There are two strokes.
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Extremely high revving
little bikes and, um...
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I remember whenever I came out
of a corner, I would always
have to feather the clutch.
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Always leaning forward to keep
the front wheel down.
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You couldn't be weak
and ride a motorcycle,
especially a Motocross bike,
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because the only thing
that keeps you in contact
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with the motorcycles
is basically your hands.
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You're off the pegs.
A lot of times
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the bike's moving underneath you
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and it's such a physical,
physically demanding sport,
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it's a little bit like riding
a wild animal.
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All you were paid to do
was to stay in shape
and ride a motorcycle
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and go as fast as you can,
jump as far as you can.
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You know, go into corners,
and out of corners,
as quickly as you can.
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So, that was
a great way to live.
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I was within the top ten
of the world,
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so I was, considered
one of the better guys.
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Um, and I remember when I was
22-and-a-half, almost 23,
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my father said, "That's it,
that's your last year.
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"This will be
your last year racing."
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And I said, "Why?" And he said,
"Well, you're not good enough."
And I thought,
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"I'm pretty...
Pretty high up."
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"Yeah, but, you know,
if you don't win a race,
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"nobody's ever gonna remember
who you are and you're...
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"Your'e good,
but you're not the best."
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How did you feel
when he told you to stop?
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I think, looking back,
I realized that he was
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actually looking out for me.
Wasn't like he was trying to
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take one of
my life's pleasures
away from me
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and punish me. It was
rather the opposite, so...
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- But at the time, how did you...
- At...
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At the time, I was devastated.
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It really gets into your
system and it never leaves.
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It's basically a virus that
once you get it, it's there
for the rest of your life,
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and anything else
after riding a motorcycle
seems boring.
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How can anything be
more exciting than that?
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And I... I loved it.
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I think any weakness
for my father was wrong.
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He, was born, pretty
much as a Scandinavian,
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but moved early on
in his life to the U.S.
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He was in the war, World War II.
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After that, got into
the merchant marines.
Eventually,
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one of his trips
led him to Malaga,
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and that's where my father
met my mother and things
took off from there.
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It was kind of interesting
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because they were quite
different, my parents.
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I can only remember my mother
ever smiling
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and being in a good mood
all the time.
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She was more interested
in the creative side of life.
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And, um, my father was obsessed
with precision, technology.
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You know, it's very...
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You know, analytical way
of approaching life.
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He taught me,
when I was growing up,
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that if you're gonna do anything
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you have to be
the absolute best.
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That was the turning point
in my life
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where everything sort of
went from being,
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you know, in a safe,
comfortable atmosphere,
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racing in different countries
around the world,
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but still
coming back home to Malaga
where you have your...
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Your friends, your cousins,
your parents.
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Suddenly going off to the U.S. and
becoming independent and everything.
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Then I applied to this
university in California.
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At that time I didn't
really know what car design
was all about.
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I just knew I could draw a car
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and it seemed
like a pretty cool way to...
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To make a living
if you could do that.
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It's almost useless
to think of something specific
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when you're first
starting to draw,
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because you really don't know
what you're gonna come up with.
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It's really...
Your hand is...
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Is linked with your mind,
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but your hand
is doing all the drawing.
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So, it's almost like
I'm sitting here
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as an observer,
watching what's coming out
on the paper.
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Like there's two of us here
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in front of this drawing.
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One doing the drawing
and the other one sort of
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criticizing it or critiquing it
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as it appears in front of me.
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I remember as a kid,
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I just wanted to stay inside
and draw.
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My mother being
from southern Spain
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and she was the typical
Andalusian woman
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where art is what rules
in the family.
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The first memory
of my mother would be
the smell of oil paints,
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because she would spend
the evenings painting
in the kitchen.
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So, the whole artistic side,
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I think, comes from my mother.
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In the early '60s,
my father actually started
the dealership,
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and so, I always started
hanging out in that area
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and started falling in love
with the shapes of the cars.
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And it becomes a creative thing,
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like, "How cool
could I draw a car?"
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Typically, I would be
touching the cars.
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It's a bit of a strange thing,
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but I loved touching surfaces,
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I loved, um...
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You know,
it's almost like an animal.
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You don't have to
communicate by word.
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There is a vibration
between you and that animal
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and that was what kind of,
turned me on in a certain way.
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And slowly my drawings
evolved from being horses
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to faster horses
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to horsepower.
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And I started drawing cars.
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And then,
drawing cars of the future.
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- You guys know how to sketch?
- No.
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What sketch?
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And... I mean,
if you wanna use a computer,
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just some nice hand-sketching
and stuff, whatever,
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and then we can just sit down
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and, see if what we learnt
back in the '80s
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still applies today.
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I wanna solidify
Range Rover in the U.S. market.
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So, I thought,
"What better
to do that than a truck?"
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- My...
- I can see that
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as the new generation
comes along,
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thinking,
"Now it's gotta be digital,"
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almost you have to convince them
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that sometimes manual
is better than digital.
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When you have an idea,
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the computer's not gonna be
abe to read that emotion
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and print out
what your idea is,
whereas your hand,
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connected to your brain
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and your heart.
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You can get that
onto a piece of paper
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in a much more expressive way
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than a computer's ever gonna
allow you to do it.
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How many design programs
have you been in
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where somebody does a little,
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even a napkin sketch,
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and you put that up
and all the sketches
that follow
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and all the development
and digital modeling,
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and people come back
to that little...
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- That first sketch...
- sketch,
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-and they go,
"That's the character."
-Yeah.
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With the coffee mug imprint
on it right there.
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- There's a human touch...
- Yeah.
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You know, that you feel
and that thing
you can achieve...
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That's... That's what
we spoke about earlier,
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it's the romance of design.
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At that time,
I was Chief Designer
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for the Toyota Studio
in Newport Beach,
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and I was asked to come up
to this campus
and teach a class.
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And one of those classes,
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Frank was in the class.
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I remember first day of class,
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there were 30 of us
sitting in the classroom,
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the teacher walks in.
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He says, "Well,
you should all feel
very proud of yourselves
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"because you're one of
thousands of students
around the world
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"who tried to apply
for these courses,
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"and we only
take the top 30."
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And, of course,
your chest gets
very inflated
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because you think
you know, "Pretty good."
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But then, they cut you down
the size when they tell you
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that, "We've never had
a classroom more than
10 students finish."
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And, of course,
everybody's thinking,
"Not me, not me, not me."
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And at the end of the four years
there were only six of us left.
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You guys should look sleepy.
You don't look sleepy at all.
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- That's right, that's right.
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Great.
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We used to look like zombies.
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Can you give me,
like, an average day and night?
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- Do I have to?
- Yeah.
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It's painful to think about it.
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Um, so I remember...
I would remember getting...
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Getting home at 10:30 at night,
11:00 almost,
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and the first thing I would do
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is just take two heaping
spoonfuls of instant coffee
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and put them into my coffee cup.
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I would drink that
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and then shake for half an hour,
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then I would work till 3:00
or 4:00 in the morning
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and then again...
And I don't think
I ever seriously got
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more than four hours
of sleep a night
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in those four years I was there.
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And that's the pace you go at.
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- That's pretty cool, man.
- Thank you.
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- You built that all yourself?
- Yeah.
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- The foam?
- This is out of clay.
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- That's clay?
- Yes.
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Damn!
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It's a bit like
going to some kind of
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Navy SEALs,
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or Green Beret training camp.
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A lot of instructors gained
fame here at Art Center
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by ripping your 12-hour
renderings off the wall
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and stamping on them
or lighting them up.
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They just destroyed you
right there in the class,
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00:21:52,587 --> 00:21:55,314
and many, many students
would end up crying. It's...
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It's just sad.
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Did anything
ever happen like that to you?
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Yeah, I didn't cry.
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00:22:01,216 --> 00:22:03,529
-Did you ever just
want to give up?
-No.
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Never, never, never, never.
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No, because, I mean,
like I said,
my father
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I went over there, geared with,
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00:22:10,708 --> 00:22:12,572
you know...
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Failure is no option. That was really...
I didn't even have to think about that.
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A couple of the guys
were failures,
frustrated failures because
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they'll say whatever
they want to say,
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00:22:22,064 --> 00:22:23,318
but the guys
who were at the top,
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who had made it to the top
had done something right.
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00:22:25,378 --> 00:22:27,276
So, those were always
the guys to listen to.
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That's what I did.
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00:22:28,899 --> 00:22:30,739
And you have to be
super competitive.
You can't just be,
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you know, one of another
bunch of guys.
You have to want to...
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That group of six of us
that finished, we were...
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00:22:37,563 --> 00:22:39,358
We all had that killer instinct.
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And it has to be absolutely,
you know,
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00:22:43,534 --> 00:22:46,261
not just the best you can do,
but it has to be the best.
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00:22:50,023 --> 00:22:54,234
That bite to compete
kicked off very young
in my life.
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I remember a lot of kids
that were always going
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00:22:58,515 --> 00:23:01,483
to the dances on Friday nights
were doing social events.
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00:23:02,001 --> 00:23:03,899
I was in sports.
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00:23:03,934 --> 00:23:07,593
I always made a point of using as
much time as I could to get better
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00:23:07,627 --> 00:23:10,250
in any sport
I was doing, to win.
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00:23:11,251 --> 00:23:13,322
No matter what people say,
it's not about
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00:23:13,357 --> 00:23:15,428
participating.
It's about winning.
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00:23:15,463 --> 00:23:17,706
Otherwise you're just
one of the bunch.
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00:23:20,088 --> 00:23:23,022
When you're driving
back up here
on the hillside campus,
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00:23:23,056 --> 00:23:25,852
driving under that big bridge,
you feel that little flutter?
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00:23:25,887 --> 00:23:27,336
Absolutely.
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00:23:27,371 --> 00:23:30,098
- Especially when you do it
in something you designed.
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00:23:30,132 --> 00:23:31,582
- Yeah. Okay.
- Okay.
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00:23:31,617 --> 00:23:34,654
Okay, that sacrifice
was all right.
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00:23:34,689 --> 00:23:38,140
If you just go down the hill,
you're right in the movement
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00:23:38,175 --> 00:23:40,177
and all that, but up here,
you're kind of...
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00:23:40,211 --> 00:23:42,455
It's a little bit like,
like a small piece of
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00:23:42,490 --> 00:23:45,147
hellish heaven.
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00:23:45,182 --> 00:23:47,322
You're separated
from the real world,
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00:23:47,356 --> 00:23:50,152
and you... You get to think
weird thoughts up here
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00:23:50,187 --> 00:23:52,016
and create weird things
and all that.
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00:23:52,051 --> 00:23:54,571
Maybe that's part of
the reason why...
Why it works.
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00:24:00,646 --> 00:24:03,476
Can I get behind the sign?
And then...
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00:24:03,511 --> 00:24:05,202
Where would you stand?
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00:24:05,236 --> 00:24:06,686
Inside the bushes?
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00:24:06,721 --> 00:24:09,137
You can't,
the security guard
might not be happy.
423
00:24:09,171 --> 00:24:13,003
No, but what's he gonna do?
He's got to jump out
and come tell me to get out.
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00:24:13,037 --> 00:24:14,556
So, once you have gotten out,
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00:24:14,591 --> 00:24:16,696
-you'd have already
captured the image.
-Come on then.
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00:24:19,423 --> 00:24:20,804
When you're ready.
427
00:24:20,838 --> 00:24:22,322
- Ready?
- Ready.
428
00:24:22,357 --> 00:24:24,324
One, two, three, four.
429
00:24:33,644 --> 00:24:37,614
My parents had a pretty nice
villa in Malaga
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00:24:37,648 --> 00:24:40,893
that they had built
back in the '60s
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00:24:40,927 --> 00:24:45,104
and that was gonna be our
family home for, you know,
later on in life.
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00:24:45,138 --> 00:24:47,382
But when I decided to go
to Art Center,
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00:24:47,416 --> 00:24:50,419
tuition was pretty high
and living expenses
and all that,
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00:24:50,454 --> 00:24:52,249
so they ended up
selling the home,
435
00:24:52,283 --> 00:24:55,839
just to help me
with the financial
side of it.
436
00:24:55,873 --> 00:24:58,566
So...
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00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,258
They sacrificed
a heck of a lot
to get me through.
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00:25:02,535 --> 00:25:05,055
Two years in the Art Center,
General Motors,
439
00:25:05,089 --> 00:25:06,643
Chrysler and Ford
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00:25:06,677 --> 00:25:09,300
make it sort of a pilgrimage
to Art Center
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00:25:09,335 --> 00:25:10,750
to look at talent that
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00:25:10,785 --> 00:25:13,615
they could potentially
lock their teeth into.
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00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:15,721
So, what happened was,
444
00:25:15,755 --> 00:25:19,828
Ford sent me a proposal
saying that,
445
00:25:19,863 --> 00:25:21,381
"We know who you are.
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00:25:21,416 --> 00:25:25,627
"If you agree to work for us
after graduation,
447
00:25:25,662 --> 00:25:28,527
"we'll pay for the rest
of your studies,
the next two years."
448
00:25:28,561 --> 00:25:31,219
And I thought, "Well," you know,
"how can I say no to that?"
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00:25:33,842 --> 00:25:36,327
They offered me a position
with the Ford...
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00:25:36,362 --> 00:25:38,640
European Ford design studios
in Germany.
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00:25:38,675 --> 00:25:40,573
That was my first
experience here.
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00:25:41,332 --> 00:25:42,679
And having worked on
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00:25:42,713 --> 00:25:45,716
a very special version
of the Ford Escort,
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00:25:45,751 --> 00:25:48,063
it sort of was a very
good kick off for my career,
455
00:25:48,098 --> 00:25:50,065
but that's about
as far as my father got
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00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:51,826
into seeing what I was,
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00:25:52,481 --> 00:25:53,793
doing with my career.
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00:27:10,629 --> 00:27:13,286
As a designer
of the first major project
that I worked on
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00:27:13,321 --> 00:27:15,495
was the Ford Escort Cosworth.
460
00:27:15,530 --> 00:27:16,783
Of course,
you come out of college
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00:27:16,807 --> 00:27:19,189
having grandiose dreams
of doing something pretty...
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00:27:19,707 --> 00:27:21,053
Pretty amazing,
463
00:27:21,087 --> 00:27:24,228
and the Ford Escort Cosworth
was gonna need spoilers.
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00:27:25,678 --> 00:27:28,474
My inspiration was basically
the Red Baron's airplane,
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00:27:28,508 --> 00:27:32,651
the Fokker Dr.I tri-winger
from World War I.
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00:27:32,685 --> 00:27:36,275
So, what I did was
take the concept they had
of the three wings,
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00:27:36,309 --> 00:27:39,623
then applied that
to the wings of the Cosworth
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00:27:39,658 --> 00:27:42,522
and that would give it
a lot of attitude.
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00:27:42,557 --> 00:27:45,629
The results were fantastic
in the wind tunnel,
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00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:47,562
but towards the end,
finance at Ford
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00:27:47,596 --> 00:27:49,978
were able to get rid
of the middle wing.
472
00:27:50,013 --> 00:27:51,324
I had the feeling that my baby
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00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,086
was actually born with
nine fingers instead of ten,
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00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:57,261
which really hurt me a lot.
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00:27:57,296 --> 00:28:00,230
Design is a very
emotional process.
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00:28:00,264 --> 00:28:03,164
You're actually
envisioning it
in your mind,
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00:28:03,198 --> 00:28:04,441
putting it on paper
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00:28:04,475 --> 00:28:07,409
transferring that paper
design to a physical model
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00:28:07,444 --> 00:28:10,447
and then it's been recreated
in full-scale
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00:28:10,481 --> 00:28:12,829
and at the end of the day,
it's your baby.
481
00:28:12,863 --> 00:28:15,245
You know, you fall in love
with it as you're doing it.
482
00:28:17,316 --> 00:28:18,524
So, when your car came out,
483
00:28:18,558 --> 00:28:20,664
people were pretty happy
about it,
484
00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:23,391
but they didn't know
what they were missing
485
00:28:23,425 --> 00:28:24,944
because they had never seen it.
486
00:28:27,947 --> 00:28:30,398
When I began designing,
you know, aspirations are
487
00:28:30,432 --> 00:28:32,711
I'm gonna be the best
car designer in the world.
488
00:28:32,745 --> 00:28:34,471
And working with Ford,
489
00:28:34,505 --> 00:28:35,783
not to say it in a bad way,
490
00:28:35,817 --> 00:28:38,406
but it's kind of like
a bread and butter company.
491
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,167
I was kind of like,
"I've gotta go upwards."
492
00:28:42,962 --> 00:28:44,930
The BMW range was very exciting
493
00:28:44,964 --> 00:28:47,518
and there was a lot of
potential to move it forward.
494
00:28:47,553 --> 00:28:50,280
So, I went down to Munich
in July of '91.
495
00:28:50,314 --> 00:28:51,730
Um, I...
496
00:28:51,764 --> 00:28:54,422
They looked at my portfolio
and hired me on the spot.
497
00:28:54,456 --> 00:28:58,737
They had just bought
Land Rover, Rover MG.
498
00:28:58,771 --> 00:29:01,567
Using the technology
that we had just bought,
499
00:29:01,601 --> 00:29:03,672
the big boss said,
"In six weeks,
500
00:29:03,707 --> 00:29:07,676
"I wanna see what a BMW
Land Rover could look like."
501
00:29:07,711 --> 00:29:10,921
There's no way you could
build a full-sized prototype
502
00:29:10,956 --> 00:29:12,923
in Germany in six weeks
because you're...
503
00:29:12,958 --> 00:29:16,444
You need to work on the weekends
and the unions don't allow that,
504
00:29:16,478 --> 00:29:19,274
so it had to be done
outside of Germany.
505
00:29:19,309 --> 00:29:20,551
I designed. Boss said,
506
00:29:20,586 --> 00:29:23,106
"Frank, we're gonna
send you down to Italy
507
00:29:23,140 --> 00:29:25,556
"and, you'll be back
in six weeks
508
00:29:25,591 --> 00:29:28,249
"with something that we hope
looks pretty good."
509
00:29:29,664 --> 00:29:32,253
And I said,
"What about the design?
What's it look like?"
510
00:29:32,287 --> 00:29:34,427
"So that's your job to come up
with it on the flight."
511
00:29:34,462 --> 00:29:37,327
"What?" It was...
It was crazy.
512
00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:40,433
There are design houses in Turin
513
00:29:40,468 --> 00:29:43,782
that are dedicated to turning
sketches into real models
514
00:29:43,816 --> 00:29:46,646
and they'll work insane hours
to get it done for you
515
00:29:46,681 --> 00:29:49,580
and they do the concept cars
for the motor shows.
516
00:29:49,615 --> 00:29:52,618
The Sunday when I arrived,
there were these three
older gentlemen,
517
00:29:52,652 --> 00:29:54,931
probably no less
than 70 years old,
518
00:29:54,965 --> 00:29:56,898
smoking their little
Italian cigarettes
519
00:29:56,933 --> 00:29:58,900
and drinking
their little espressos.
520
00:29:58,935 --> 00:30:01,420
First question
to the translator was,
521
00:30:01,454 --> 00:30:03,905
"Are these three guys
gonna be able to work
522
00:30:03,940 --> 00:30:05,217
"eighteen hours a day,
523
00:30:05,251 --> 00:30:07,115
"seven days a week
for six straight weeks?"
524
00:30:07,150 --> 00:30:10,118
He says, "Don't worry,
these are the same three guys
that built the Mira."
525
00:30:14,122 --> 00:30:16,090
Ninety-nine percent
of designers out there
526
00:30:16,124 --> 00:30:19,334
would rate it as
one of their top
most beautiful designs ever.
527
00:30:22,199 --> 00:30:26,341
And these were the three guys
that actually had
built that prototype
528
00:30:26,376 --> 00:30:28,723
back in the late '60s
when they were in their 20s.
529
00:30:30,656 --> 00:30:33,521
We worked flat-out
model building.
530
00:30:33,555 --> 00:30:36,731
We turned a design
into a real car in six weeks.
531
00:30:36,765 --> 00:30:39,596
We presented it
in the courtyard at BMW.
532
00:30:41,011 --> 00:30:43,117
The big boss
did one clockwise round,
533
00:30:43,151 --> 00:30:44,508
one counter clockwise round
and said,
534
00:30:44,532 --> 00:30:46,430
"That's it.
That's going into production."
535
00:30:46,465 --> 00:30:47,945
So, we didn't
have to change anything.
536
00:30:49,399 --> 00:30:51,746
Through those three guys,
we basically turned out
537
00:30:51,780 --> 00:30:54,714
what became the very first
X5 for BMW,
538
00:30:54,749 --> 00:30:56,475
and that became
their design language
539
00:30:56,509 --> 00:30:59,305
for all future SUVs from BMW.
540
00:31:00,168 --> 00:31:02,136
Fastest, probably,
designed car ever
541
00:31:02,170 --> 00:31:04,000
in the history of car design.
542
00:31:06,554 --> 00:31:09,626
How do you feel
about designing a car
without a clay model?
543
00:31:09,660 --> 00:31:11,731
- Without a...
- Without a clay model.
544
00:31:11,766 --> 00:31:14,389
Absolutely zero chance
of getting a nice car,
545
00:31:14,424 --> 00:31:16,771
because on the screen
you're never gonna see a car
546
00:31:16,805 --> 00:31:20,395
as well as you can see it
when you see it in front of you.
547
00:31:20,430 --> 00:31:23,605
And there is one thing
that is so important
about car design
548
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,091
that people
should always remember,
549
00:31:26,125 --> 00:31:27,920
it's a human thing
when you design a car,
550
00:31:27,955 --> 00:31:29,301
it's not a machine thing.
551
00:31:30,405 --> 00:31:32,891
You said, like, you're
supposed to know
552
00:31:32,925 --> 00:31:34,444
what's gonna work in 10 years?
553
00:31:34,478 --> 00:31:35,894
- Yes.
- How do you know...
554
00:31:35,928 --> 00:31:37,274
How do you know, like...
555
00:31:37,309 --> 00:31:40,139
How do you come up
with ideas that...
556
00:31:40,174 --> 00:31:42,003
How do you imagine things
out of thin air?
557
00:31:42,038 --> 00:31:43,763
I mean, how can you like...
558
00:31:43,798 --> 00:31:47,353
How can you... I guess, sort of.
Kind of assume what's...
559
00:31:47,388 --> 00:31:49,528
No, you are the deciding factor.
560
00:31:49,562 --> 00:31:50,746
You're not guessing.
You're saying,
561
00:31:50,770 --> 00:31:52,738
"This is what I want to see
in the future."
562
00:31:54,326 --> 00:31:55,959
So, basically,
all you're getting paid to do
563
00:31:55,983 --> 00:31:57,443
is imagine something
that doesn't exist
564
00:31:57,467 --> 00:31:58,947
that's better than
what we have today.
565
00:32:00,642 --> 00:32:03,369
You know, I think
a lot of people think that
566
00:32:03,404 --> 00:32:05,233
a transportational designer,
a car designer
567
00:32:05,268 --> 00:32:07,960
is a very deep skill, you know.
568
00:32:07,995 --> 00:32:11,205
And in reality,
I think, to do it well,
569
00:32:11,239 --> 00:32:12,896
and Frank does it well,
570
00:32:12,931 --> 00:32:15,209
you have to have
a broad understanding
571
00:32:15,243 --> 00:32:16,796
of a range of things.
572
00:32:18,074 --> 00:32:20,593
A sense of history and context, you know,
573
00:32:20,628 --> 00:32:23,148
a sense of relevant
new technology,
574
00:32:23,182 --> 00:32:25,115
you know, a sense of culture.
575
00:32:27,842 --> 00:32:32,364
And Frank had that
broader view of life.
576
00:32:34,814 --> 00:32:37,231
This is an incredible part
of Malaga for me.
577
00:32:37,265 --> 00:32:38,680
It's so full of life.
578
00:32:41,476 --> 00:32:43,420
So colorful, there's so much
going on all the time,
579
00:32:43,444 --> 00:32:45,515
with all the smells
and all the sounds
580
00:32:45,549 --> 00:32:47,517
and the new things
you see all the time.
581
00:32:50,623 --> 00:32:52,211
Love the octopus.
582
00:32:53,592 --> 00:32:56,077
There's not a lot of
modernity to places like this.
583
00:32:56,112 --> 00:32:58,079
It's kind of old-fashioned.
584
00:32:59,149 --> 00:33:01,048
The building itself is so old.
585
00:33:01,082 --> 00:33:03,636
It's actually back
from the Moorish days.
586
00:33:06,536 --> 00:33:08,676
I think my early upbringing
587
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:11,851
was really based
in this kind of environment,
588
00:33:11,886 --> 00:33:13,750
where you sort of have that
589
00:33:13,784 --> 00:33:15,821
old-soul feeling to things.
590
00:33:18,065 --> 00:33:19,628
People look at me
at this stage of my life
591
00:33:19,652 --> 00:33:21,482
and say, "That guy.
He's very modern."
592
00:33:21,516 --> 00:33:24,278
I probably appear
to be that way, but it's...
593
00:33:24,312 --> 00:33:26,556
It's pretty much
because of this contrast
that I've...
594
00:33:26,590 --> 00:33:29,041
I've grown up with,
moving from one,
595
00:33:29,076 --> 00:33:31,354
old-school type of world
596
00:33:31,388 --> 00:33:33,563
and then suddenly being thrown
597
00:33:33,597 --> 00:33:36,773
into the Hollywood lifestyle
of California
598
00:33:36,807 --> 00:33:39,155
and the fast pace of working
in the modern world.
599
00:33:44,022 --> 00:33:45,540
- How are ya?
- Jay! Hi, man.
600
00:33:45,575 --> 00:33:47,818
Are you in town
for the new Magnum, P.I.?
601
00:33:47,853 --> 00:33:49,234
Yeah, we'll be doing the series.
602
00:33:49,268 --> 00:33:51,212
You're doing the series now,
going with a different look.
603
00:33:51,236 --> 00:33:52,351
- Yeah, yeah.
- You look great, Jay.
604
00:33:52,375 --> 00:33:53,583
You look very Californian,
605
00:33:53,617 --> 00:33:54,870
- I must say.
- You been working out?
606
00:33:54,894 --> 00:33:57,276
Yeah, that's me. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I'm working out.
607
00:33:57,311 --> 00:33:58,874
Where do you wanna start?
What do you wanna do?
608
00:33:58,898 --> 00:34:01,591
My gosh, this place is like
walking into, heaven.
609
00:34:03,282 --> 00:34:05,526
If you crack this splinter...
610
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,563
you either got a new spoiler
or a Z06 Corvette.
611
00:34:08,598 --> 00:34:10,058
- They're the same thing.
- Nice, yeah.
612
00:34:10,082 --> 00:34:12,464
- Which would you rather have?
- Exactly, exactly.
613
00:34:13,603 --> 00:34:15,708
I like the plain,
simple look of this car.
614
00:34:15,743 --> 00:34:18,746
When it came out, everybody
sort of went after it and said,
615
00:34:18,780 --> 00:34:21,300
"It's boring,
or it's not exciting enough."
616
00:34:21,335 --> 00:34:24,372
But I don't like
juvenile wings unscooped.
617
00:34:24,407 --> 00:34:27,410
I mean, everybody's
going for this atomic
insect look now.
618
00:34:27,444 --> 00:34:29,791
- Which is okay, but I...
- Yeah.
619
00:34:29,826 --> 00:34:31,838
- Well, they're trying too hard.
- Yeah, they're trying to be...
620
00:34:31,862 --> 00:34:33,692
I like the purity of this.
621
00:34:36,522 --> 00:34:40,319
I feel very proud that
Jay has his cars collection.
622
00:34:40,354 --> 00:34:42,770
If it's in Jay Leno's car
collection, that means...
623
00:34:42,804 --> 00:34:45,773
It means you've won
the Oscars of car design.
624
00:34:47,361 --> 00:34:49,535
Even more so because
one of the first cars you see
625
00:34:49,570 --> 00:34:52,676
when you walk into this area
where Jay keeps his cars,
626
00:34:52,711 --> 00:34:54,230
is the McLaren P1.
627
00:35:01,168 --> 00:35:02,928
It sounds like a jet
'cause it is a jet.
628
00:35:05,517 --> 00:35:07,415
I want it to be kept this way.
629
00:35:07,450 --> 00:35:09,797
-What engine is that?
Is that an...
-Merlin?
630
00:35:09,831 --> 00:35:11,039
- Merlin engine?
- Yeah.
631
00:35:11,074 --> 00:35:12,627
- So that was in a Spitfire?
- Yeah.
632
00:35:12,662 --> 00:35:14,008
My gosh!
633
00:35:14,042 --> 00:35:16,079
- It can pull a building down.
634
00:35:16,114 --> 00:35:17,287
A couple of buildings.
635
00:35:17,322 --> 00:35:19,127
Gosh, you've got
the biggest collection
of Ruffs.
636
00:35:19,151 --> 00:35:20,773
- That thing.
- Wow.
637
00:35:20,808 --> 00:35:23,707
-He runs nicely.
-This is the Rolls-Royce
of motorcycles.
638
00:35:23,742 --> 00:35:26,124
- She runs good,
- The gauges, look at that.
639
00:35:26,986 --> 00:35:28,988
You... Do you still run?
640
00:35:29,023 --> 00:35:31,405
- You wanna fire it up?
- Heck yeah!
641
00:35:31,439 --> 00:35:34,201
That's gonna kick back.
642
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:45,177
My gosh!
Where's my Texan
ten-gallon hat?
643
00:35:45,212 --> 00:35:46,799
Yeah, get in.
Get all the way in.
644
00:35:48,111 --> 00:35:50,596
There we are.
645
00:35:50,631 --> 00:35:53,323
A man of your position
should be driving
this kind of automobile.
646
00:35:54,911 --> 00:35:56,844
Wow, that's spacey.
647
00:35:56,878 --> 00:35:57,741
I know it is.
648
00:35:57,776 --> 00:35:58,639
It's awesome.
649
00:35:58,673 --> 00:35:59,847
It's so Jetsons.
650
00:36:01,055 --> 00:36:02,470
- Do you know?
- What?
651
00:36:02,505 --> 00:36:04,023
- What my next gig is?
- What?
652
00:36:04,058 --> 00:36:05,404
More than a gig.
It's my...
653
00:36:05,439 --> 00:36:07,441
It's 2.0. Transportation 2.0.
654
00:36:07,475 --> 00:36:09,167
- I start next month.
- And what's that?
655
00:36:09,201 --> 00:36:12,342
EVTOLs.
656
00:36:12,377 --> 00:36:14,113
- And what's that?
- So, I'm gonna be designing
657
00:36:14,137 --> 00:36:16,139
the first company,
658
00:36:16,174 --> 00:36:17,934
the number one company
at the moment,
659
00:36:17,968 --> 00:36:20,212
- eVTOLs, which is...
- eVTOLs?
660
00:36:20,247 --> 00:36:22,456
Yeah, Electrical, Vertical
Take-Off and Landing.
661
00:36:22,490 --> 00:36:25,286
- Okay.
- Absolutely silent, autonomous.
662
00:36:25,321 --> 00:36:27,702
So, two passengers,
five passengers,
663
00:36:27,737 --> 00:36:29,980
doesn't need any more space
than a helicopter.
664
00:36:30,015 --> 00:36:31,199
Less than a helicopter, sorry.
665
00:36:31,223 --> 00:36:33,467
-It's autonomous
and it's flying?
-Yeah. And...
666
00:36:33,501 --> 00:36:35,548
I don't mind dying if I know
the pilot's going with me.
667
00:36:35,572 --> 00:36:36,894
- There's no pilot.
- I don't have to...
668
00:36:36,918 --> 00:36:38,758
- There's no pilot. It's...
- Bob, I don't know.
669
00:36:38,782 --> 00:36:40,750
Yeah, I was reading my book
and I don't have it.
670
00:36:40,784 --> 00:36:42,234
Jay, it's the 21st century.
671
00:36:42,269 --> 00:36:43,822
I know, I know.
672
00:36:53,728 --> 00:36:56,214
How do you blend the old
and the new together
673
00:36:56,248 --> 00:36:57,974
is what I find fascinating,
674
00:36:58,008 --> 00:37:00,148
and it keeps me
always super curious.
675
00:37:04,705 --> 00:37:08,191
That kind of juxtaposition
of two types of lifestyles
676
00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:11,712
has to reflect
in your way of thinking
677
00:37:11,746 --> 00:37:12,782
and designing.
678
00:37:21,377 --> 00:37:24,621
The chance to really
design an icon is...
679
00:37:24,656 --> 00:37:26,623
Is few and far between.
680
00:37:28,729 --> 00:37:30,420
Because the original Mini
681
00:37:30,455 --> 00:37:33,596
was the car that put England
on wheels.
682
00:37:34,907 --> 00:37:37,289
It was economical
and it was space efficient.
683
00:37:37,324 --> 00:37:39,774
It was cute, it was serious,
684
00:37:39,809 --> 00:37:41,431
and it was classless.
685
00:37:41,466 --> 00:37:44,572
You know,
you got famous people
buying the Mini
686
00:37:44,607 --> 00:37:47,092
and you got
less famous people
buying it,
687
00:37:47,126 --> 00:37:49,094
every... every segment
of the public.
688
00:37:50,302 --> 00:37:52,787
Honestly, every designer
that heard of the project
689
00:37:52,822 --> 00:37:53,961
wanted to get involved
690
00:37:53,995 --> 00:37:55,352
and be the guy
who redesigned the new Mini
691
00:37:55,376 --> 00:37:57,689
because it was
gonna be historical.
692
00:37:58,310 --> 00:38:00,036
Because the original Mini
693
00:38:00,070 --> 00:38:02,210
that had been born in 1959
694
00:38:02,245 --> 00:38:04,282
was the same car for 40 years.
695
00:38:08,251 --> 00:38:11,461
In 1999,
the Mini was gonna die off
696
00:38:11,496 --> 00:38:14,533
because of the legislation
restrictions on it.
697
00:38:14,568 --> 00:38:18,330
That it was not gonna be
safe enough and, you know,
698
00:38:18,365 --> 00:38:21,022
fit for purpose
for the new century,
699
00:38:21,057 --> 00:38:22,610
the new millennium.
700
00:38:23,508 --> 00:38:24,888
The thing they didn't wanna do
701
00:38:24,923 --> 00:38:26,580
is restrict
any of the designers,
702
00:38:26,614 --> 00:38:29,514
creativity in the sense
that it has to look
like a Mini
703
00:38:29,548 --> 00:38:31,412
or anything like that.
So, basically,
704
00:38:31,447 --> 00:38:33,656
your only restriction
or your only guidance
705
00:38:33,690 --> 00:38:35,934
was, "Make it look like
your interpretation
706
00:38:35,968 --> 00:38:38,626
"of a 21st century Mini."
707
00:38:38,661 --> 00:38:41,284
Out of thin air, you suddenly
have to create a design
708
00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:42,906
and you're starting with...
709
00:38:42,941 --> 00:38:45,668
With a clean sheet of paper,
thinking, "How do I do this?"
710
00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:49,948
Sometimes in car designs
you have unique
design language
711
00:38:49,982 --> 00:38:52,019
that you have to create
from scratch.
712
00:38:52,053 --> 00:38:54,608
But pretty much the most, um,
713
00:38:54,642 --> 00:38:57,265
normal thing to do
is take an existing design
714
00:38:57,300 --> 00:38:58,370
and make it better.
715
00:38:58,405 --> 00:38:59,682
It builds another advances.
716
00:38:59,716 --> 00:39:01,176
-So, you've already
got building blocks...
-Right.
717
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,000
- that you're progressing
upwards on.
-Right.
718
00:39:04,031 --> 00:39:05,688
An iconic design like the Mini,
719
00:39:05,722 --> 00:39:08,380
I think it would have been
absolutely, you know,
720
00:39:08,415 --> 00:39:10,486
unholy to change the design
721
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,522
in such a way
that wasn't recognizable
722
00:39:12,557 --> 00:39:14,559
with the original.
723
00:39:14,593 --> 00:39:17,355
Yeah, they have something
that connects back historically
724
00:39:17,389 --> 00:39:18,815
-and touches a place
in your heart.
-Emotionally.
725
00:39:18,839 --> 00:39:21,497
And, yeah, leverage is really
leading edge technology
726
00:39:21,531 --> 00:39:23,291
- as always that nice...
- Yeah. Exactly.
727
00:39:23,326 --> 00:39:26,640
It's that emotional connection
to the past with the technology
of the future.
728
00:39:28,227 --> 00:39:30,126
So, I spent the first week
729
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,231
not designing
the 21st century Mini
730
00:39:32,266 --> 00:39:34,095
but designing the 1969 Mini,
731
00:39:34,130 --> 00:39:37,305
which never existed.
It was basically the same one,
like I said.
732
00:39:37,340 --> 00:39:39,446
But if it had changed in 1969,
733
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,448
what could it have looked like?
734
00:39:41,482 --> 00:39:42,563
So, that was the first week.
735
00:39:42,587 --> 00:39:44,416
The second week
was the '79 version,
736
00:39:44,451 --> 00:39:46,487
the third week
was the '89 version,
737
00:39:46,522 --> 00:39:48,040
and the last week,
the fourth week,
738
00:39:48,075 --> 00:39:50,111
I designed the 1999 Mini.
739
00:39:52,424 --> 00:39:55,462
The Holy Grail of design is
to create a timeless design.
740
00:39:55,496 --> 00:39:57,198
Now, obviously, that would
put us out of business
741
00:39:57,222 --> 00:39:58,441
if we created a timeless design,
742
00:39:58,465 --> 00:40:00,190
because you won't
have to redesign it.
743
00:40:00,225 --> 00:40:02,020
But at the same time,
I think, um,
744
00:40:02,054 --> 00:40:03,953
if you can make
a product design...
745
00:40:03,987 --> 00:40:06,265
A design of a product last
746
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:07,922
and not just be trendy,
747
00:40:07,957 --> 00:40:10,304
then you've really
hit the nail on the head.
748
00:40:10,338 --> 00:40:12,444
Because that's what happens
in fashion.
749
00:40:12,479 --> 00:40:14,595
For example, something's in
one year and out the next,
750
00:40:14,619 --> 00:40:17,242
and so it's constantly
changing all the time.
751
00:40:17,276 --> 00:40:19,175
Exciting but it doesn't last.
752
00:40:28,287 --> 00:40:29,565
We're almost there.
753
00:40:31,636 --> 00:40:35,122
And in terms of being aspired
by things that are timeless,
754
00:40:35,156 --> 00:40:36,986
what better exploration
than nature?
755
00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:38,953
Because nature's not trendy.
756
00:40:38,988 --> 00:40:40,438
You don't have
anything in nature
757
00:40:40,472 --> 00:40:42,060
that's in one year
and out the next.
758
00:40:44,062 --> 00:40:46,098
So, my favorite tree,
759
00:40:46,133 --> 00:40:48,066
can you see the antlers on it?
760
00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:49,688
Yeah.
Is this your favorite?
761
00:40:49,723 --> 00:40:51,207
Yeah, that one right there.
762
00:40:53,761 --> 00:40:55,694
It's like the only one there.
763
00:40:55,729 --> 00:40:58,421
The whole forest is like that.
764
00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:00,630
And I sit on that log
right there
765
00:41:00,665 --> 00:41:02,874
and that's my thinking sofa
766
00:41:02,908 --> 00:41:04,358
- out in the forest.
- Yeah.
767
00:41:04,392 --> 00:41:08,258
I sit there, think about
the cars going by.
768
00:41:08,293 --> 00:41:10,882
You know, it's not
a disturbance to me
769
00:41:10,916 --> 00:41:13,712
because it's been a big factor
in my whole life as vehicles,
770
00:41:13,747 --> 00:41:15,921
but then, I've got nature
right in front of it
771
00:41:15,956 --> 00:41:17,578
with such an inspirational tree.
772
00:41:20,788 --> 00:41:25,103
And it's the only tree
I've ever hugged in my life.
773
00:41:27,623 --> 00:41:30,453
You can start from scratch,
which is one way of doing it,
774
00:41:30,488 --> 00:41:32,327
or you can take something
that's already beautiful
775
00:41:32,351 --> 00:41:34,699
and make it even more beautiful.
776
00:41:34,733 --> 00:41:37,736
For example,
with the mirrors of the Mini.
777
00:41:37,771 --> 00:41:42,085
How do I design
the most beautiful mirrors,
but do it up to them?
778
00:41:48,229 --> 00:41:50,128
So, what I did
was I spent a week
779
00:41:50,162 --> 00:41:52,406
drawing female breasts, right?
780
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,651
The idea of female breast
for me...
781
00:41:55,685 --> 00:41:56,893
And that's all I did
782
00:41:56,928 --> 00:41:59,447
was seriously draw breasts
for a week.
783
00:41:59,482 --> 00:42:01,070
And a lot of people
don't realize it,
784
00:42:01,104 --> 00:42:04,729
but when they look at
the original Mini
that I designed...
785
00:42:04,763 --> 00:42:07,248
Now they'll probably realize
they're looking at
a female breast.
786
00:42:07,283 --> 00:42:10,424
Then they didn't.
They just felt comfortable
with it and liked it.
787
00:42:10,458 --> 00:42:12,978
It looks familiar
and it's attractive
788
00:42:13,013 --> 00:42:15,291
and, you know, it's natural.
789
00:42:17,017 --> 00:42:19,502
If you were sitting
inside the Mini
790
00:42:19,537 --> 00:42:22,609
and you looked out
over the bonnet,
791
00:42:22,643 --> 00:42:24,818
um, what people don't realize
792
00:42:24,852 --> 00:42:27,475
is they're looking
at the pelvis area
793
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:29,029
of a woman.
794
00:42:31,238 --> 00:42:33,792
The fenders were
very curvaceous like that.
795
00:42:33,827 --> 00:42:35,000
Those are the thighs.
796
00:42:35,035 --> 00:42:36,288
And as it comes into the middle,
797
00:42:36,312 --> 00:42:38,279
there is a,
what we call, a power dome
798
00:42:38,314 --> 00:42:40,903
which is sort of
the pelvic area.
799
00:42:40,937 --> 00:42:42,570
People looked at it,
felt very comfortable.
800
00:42:42,594 --> 00:42:45,424
It was sensual in a way
but not overtly.
801
00:42:45,459 --> 00:42:47,899
You know, you didn't know it
unless I was telling you
about it.
802
00:42:49,325 --> 00:42:52,293
A designer has to be
a little bit odd,
803
00:42:52,328 --> 00:42:55,089
or seem a little bit odd
to a normal thinking person.
804
00:42:57,575 --> 00:42:59,922
It makes you have an advantage
805
00:42:59,956 --> 00:43:02,580
in terms of thinking
forward easily.
806
00:43:02,614 --> 00:43:05,859
This was built
by a 17-year-old kid
in 1931.
807
00:43:05,893 --> 00:43:07,654
A guy named Bob Shanwell.
808
00:43:07,688 --> 00:43:10,311
He wanted a car
and it was the Depression,
809
00:43:10,346 --> 00:43:11,796
and his father said, you know,
810
00:43:11,830 --> 00:43:14,190
"If you want a car,
you're gonna have
to build one yourself."
811
00:43:14,937 --> 00:43:18,526
If you can combine
a forward-thinking designer
812
00:43:18,561 --> 00:43:20,874
with a forward-thinking
engineer...
813
00:43:20,908 --> 00:43:22,530
It's an Indian engine?
814
00:43:22,565 --> 00:43:24,405
-That's an Indian four-cylinder
motorcycle engine.
-That's interesting.
815
00:43:24,429 --> 00:43:25,741
Then the sparks really fly
816
00:43:25,775 --> 00:43:28,640
and you get impossible
solutions made possible.
817
00:43:29,089 --> 00:43:31,160
Yeah, my gosh!
818
00:43:31,954 --> 00:43:33,138
- Yeah.
- This car doesn't exist.
819
00:43:33,162 --> 00:43:34,646
No, this car does not exist.
820
00:43:34,681 --> 00:43:36,924
What existed was the wheels
821
00:43:36,959 --> 00:43:38,374
- and the chassis.
- Okay.
822
00:43:38,408 --> 00:43:41,273
We put a 27-liter Merlin
aircraft engine in it.
823
00:43:41,308 --> 00:43:43,931
- 27 liter?
- You hand spin this,
824
00:43:43,966 --> 00:43:46,244
- that throws sparks
into every cylinder.
825
00:43:47,555 --> 00:43:50,075
Your whole objective
as a designer
826
00:43:50,110 --> 00:43:51,629
is to bring innovation.
827
00:43:55,425 --> 00:43:58,428
The new Mini has a lot
of impossible features on it.
828
00:43:58,463 --> 00:44:01,293
There were engineers saying,
"There's no way we can,
829
00:44:01,328 --> 00:44:03,295
"you know, wrap the glass
around the pillars
830
00:44:03,330 --> 00:44:05,677
"in such a tight way
that you've done it."
831
00:44:05,712 --> 00:44:08,680
Or, "You can't put what we call
a clamshell bonnet on the front.
832
00:44:08,715 --> 00:44:11,649
"It's too much
metal to press
into one shape,
833
00:44:11,683 --> 00:44:13,305
"or a lot of small details."
834
00:44:13,340 --> 00:44:16,343
But pushing those details
is what made
the Mini look modern.
835
00:44:18,207 --> 00:44:20,381
When it came out, a lot of
the press were coming in
836
00:44:20,416 --> 00:44:24,351
and then it was a retro design,
which really hurt me a lot
837
00:44:24,385 --> 00:44:27,595
because there's no way that
the Mini was a retro design.
838
00:44:27,630 --> 00:44:31,703
It's kind of like, you compared
with your forefathers
839
00:44:31,738 --> 00:44:33,360
and grandparents or ancestors.
840
00:44:33,394 --> 00:44:35,983
You're, There's a link.
You can say a visual link,
841
00:44:36,018 --> 00:44:37,882
obviously, you might
have the eyes or,
842
00:44:37,916 --> 00:44:39,573
you know, physical attributes,
843
00:44:39,607 --> 00:44:42,265
but basically,
you're a smarter, faster,
stronger person
844
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:44,060
than what
your grandparents were.
845
00:44:44,095 --> 00:44:46,442
You're an improved
version of them.
846
00:44:46,476 --> 00:44:48,478
So, that's not like
you're a retro version.
847
00:44:51,033 --> 00:44:54,484
We launched it
in October of 2000
848
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:57,177
and it became very successful very quickly.
849
00:44:59,317 --> 00:45:02,769
It connected with the original
crowd that owned the Mini.
850
00:45:02,803 --> 00:45:05,633
It also connected
with the younger generation
851
00:45:05,668 --> 00:45:08,533
because it was, um,
customizable and it was cute
852
00:45:08,567 --> 00:45:11,260
and aggressive at the same time.
853
00:45:11,294 --> 00:45:13,987
And then it was basically
also not a chick's car
854
00:45:14,021 --> 00:45:16,610
and not a guy's car. It was
sort of walking a fine line
855
00:45:16,644 --> 00:45:18,716
between being a woman's car
and a guy's car.
856
00:45:21,166 --> 00:45:22,927
If you don't have
good design principles,
857
00:45:22,961 --> 00:45:24,342
you're not gonna make it.
858
00:45:24,376 --> 00:45:25,837
Sorry to put it that way,
but you're not gonna make it.
859
00:45:25,861 --> 00:45:29,381
You might have one hit.
It's like going up the bat,
right?
860
00:45:29,416 --> 00:45:31,107
And you might hit a home run,
861
00:45:31,142 --> 00:45:33,707
but if you don't consistently
hit home runs,
you're not a home run hitter.
862
00:45:33,731 --> 00:45:36,181
So, they're not gonna
put you in fourth,
863
00:45:36,216 --> 00:45:37,596
you know, batting fourth.
864
00:45:37,631 --> 00:45:39,288
You're not gonna
clean up the bases.
865
00:45:39,322 --> 00:45:41,048
- You know what
I'm talking about? Baseball?
866
00:45:41,083 --> 00:45:42,222
Okay.
867
00:45:46,433 --> 00:45:49,160
My brother was a pitcher and
I was a catcher in baseball
868
00:45:49,194 --> 00:45:51,818
when we were growing up
in the Little Leagues.
869
00:45:51,852 --> 00:45:54,682
I remember once really
feeling bad for my brother
870
00:45:54,717 --> 00:45:56,719
because my father was...
871
00:45:56,754 --> 00:45:59,308
I was catching
and my brother was throwing.
872
00:45:59,342 --> 00:46:03,415
And my brother was probably
873
00:46:03,450 --> 00:46:07,523
around 10 or so,
and I was probably about eight.
874
00:46:07,557 --> 00:46:10,491
And he was forcing at sunset
for my brother
875
00:46:10,526 --> 00:46:11,389
to keep throwing,
876
00:46:11,423 --> 00:46:13,287
keep pitching the ball
877
00:46:13,322 --> 00:46:17,050
until he had 10 strikes
in a row.
878
00:46:17,084 --> 00:46:19,466
And my brother could just
not hit the strike zone.
879
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:22,814
He was just, you know, always
just near it like that.
880
00:46:22,849 --> 00:46:24,471
But he was relentless.
881
00:46:24,505 --> 00:46:26,825
He wouldn't let my brother
or I go home
until we actually...
882
00:46:26,853 --> 00:46:29,338
Until my brother
actually threw 10 strikes.
883
00:46:29,959 --> 00:46:31,858
And, um,
884
00:46:31,892 --> 00:46:34,446
he never managed it,
that was the thing.
885
00:46:34,481 --> 00:46:37,484
Ten strikes, you know,
consistently
886
00:46:37,518 --> 00:46:39,831
in the strike zone
and not even a pro.
887
00:46:39,866 --> 00:46:41,419
Sometimes he even manages that,
888
00:46:41,453 --> 00:46:44,802
but he was physically
driving us to a point,
889
00:46:44,836 --> 00:46:46,700
and I never understand that.
890
00:46:46,734 --> 00:46:49,323
I just thought he was trying
to be mean at that time,
891
00:46:49,358 --> 00:46:52,879
but I realize it was just,
you know,
nothing is good enough,
892
00:46:52,913 --> 00:46:54,639
just keep pushing, pushing.
893
00:46:54,673 --> 00:46:56,917
And he probably never even
expected my brother to hit,
894
00:46:56,952 --> 00:46:58,954
throw 10 strikes in a row.
895
00:46:58,988 --> 00:47:01,991
But it was the mentality
that you don't stop,
896
00:47:02,026 --> 00:47:03,613
you just keep pushing.
897
00:47:07,755 --> 00:47:13,002
My brother was a little bit
different, personality-wise,
from me.
898
00:47:13,037 --> 00:47:18,180
It wasn't his goal in life
to be the best.
899
00:47:18,214 --> 00:47:20,872
I think he couldn't take it.
900
00:47:20,907 --> 00:47:23,392
He couldn't accept the pressure.
901
00:47:25,912 --> 00:47:29,294
So, he kind of, like,
any chance he had to get out
902
00:47:29,329 --> 00:47:31,193
and get away, he would do that.
903
00:47:35,473 --> 00:47:40,409
My father,
he demanded perfection.
904
00:47:40,443 --> 00:47:44,413
So, I could never really
feel relaxed with my father.
905
00:47:44,447 --> 00:47:48,382
I always felt I had to be
better than I was
906
00:47:48,417 --> 00:47:53,905
because he was so precise
about every single detail,
907
00:47:53,940 --> 00:47:56,356
which is good.
It's a bit cold.
908
00:47:58,634 --> 00:48:03,190
If we could say OCD,
then I would absolutely
nail him to that.
909
00:48:04,571 --> 00:48:08,368
The P1, there are a lot
of details that upset me.
910
00:48:08,402 --> 00:48:11,405
For example, what happens here
when you have to actually cut
911
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,176
through the tail light
to make it two pieces,
912
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,686
it's because
you can't really inject
one single piece of plastic
913
00:48:16,721 --> 00:48:18,861
that long in one single piece.
914
00:48:18,896 --> 00:48:22,416
So, you get a slight,
almost slight condition here
915
00:48:22,451 --> 00:48:25,178
where it looks like
one of the LED lights
916
00:48:25,212 --> 00:48:27,283
has been, doesn't work almost.
917
00:48:27,318 --> 00:48:29,596
And people
don't even realize that,
918
00:48:29,630 --> 00:48:31,505
but from
a design point of view,
it almost looks like
919
00:48:31,529 --> 00:48:33,945
one letter isn't connected
to the next letter,
920
00:48:33,980 --> 00:48:35,636
if you're doing cursive writing.
921
00:48:35,671 --> 00:48:37,880
And that looks like a mistake
when I see it.
922
00:48:40,020 --> 00:48:43,230
My dad would probably be happy,
923
00:48:43,265 --> 00:48:45,543
until I started explaining
to him the mistakes in the car
924
00:48:45,577 --> 00:48:47,614
and then he would be unhappy,
which is
925
00:48:47,648 --> 00:48:49,581
the way my father was.
926
00:48:49,616 --> 00:48:51,618
He would notice things
like that,
927
00:48:51,652 --> 00:48:53,931
and ask me, "Why you did it?"
And I would explain it
928
00:48:53,965 --> 00:48:55,805
and maybe he would accept it
or maybe he wouldn't,
929
00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:58,349
but he would see it
as a mistake
and not a success.
930
00:49:01,248 --> 00:49:05,218
The car definitely reflects
the kind of upbringing
that I've had from him
931
00:49:05,252 --> 00:49:07,910
where you're in that
pursuit of perfection.
932
00:49:07,945 --> 00:49:10,982
I mean,
this is a very rare car.
There's,
933
00:49:11,017 --> 00:49:13,536
around 375 of them in the world.
934
00:49:14,917 --> 00:49:16,436
No car I've ever designed,
935
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:19,784
have they ever
sat here. Yeah.
936
00:49:19,818 --> 00:49:22,062
And here's your car, um...
937
00:49:22,097 --> 00:49:24,651
No... Yeah.
938
00:49:24,685 --> 00:49:27,688
- Would you have...
- Yeah.
939
00:49:27,723 --> 00:49:31,692
'Cause this cost
a lot more money now
than it ever cost before,
940
00:49:31,727 --> 00:49:33,177
when it came out.
941
00:49:33,211 --> 00:49:35,051
So, basically,
these kind of cars,
when they're limited like that,
942
00:49:35,075 --> 00:49:38,089
as soon as they come out
of the dealership, they're
actually going up in value.
943
00:49:38,113 --> 00:49:39,907
And, But not from
investment point of view.
944
00:49:39,942 --> 00:49:43,877
More from
the pride point of view.
I'd love to have one.
945
00:49:43,911 --> 00:49:46,707
That kinda sucks.
Like, your design,
your hard work
946
00:49:46,742 --> 00:49:47,822
and you don't get it actually.
947
00:49:47,846 --> 00:49:50,366
No, you get to drive...
Drive them as prototypes,
948
00:49:50,401 --> 00:49:52,196
but, like, you're right.
This is...
949
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:54,922
You know, it'd be awesome
to own one of these things,
950
00:49:54,957 --> 00:49:58,512
because
it's your baby, isn't it?
It's yours.
951
00:49:58,547 --> 00:50:01,653
You feel like it's yours.
And, um...
952
00:50:10,455 --> 00:50:13,596
After the Mini
sort of started to take off,
953
00:50:13,631 --> 00:50:15,357
I started getting
a lot of phone calls
954
00:50:15,391 --> 00:50:17,221
from different companies
around the world
955
00:50:17,255 --> 00:50:19,637
asking if I'd be interested
in working for them.
956
00:50:19,671 --> 00:50:22,260
And, no way,
because I was living
in Munich,
957
00:50:22,295 --> 00:50:25,574
I was working
for an incredible brand, BMW,
958
00:50:25,608 --> 00:50:28,370
and running the Mini side
of the design studio.
959
00:50:28,404 --> 00:50:31,131
And the whole future of Mini
was in front of me.
960
00:50:31,166 --> 00:50:33,271
There was only the car
I had designed.
961
00:50:33,306 --> 00:50:35,998
But the whole future
of the brand was in front
of me to develop
962
00:50:36,033 --> 00:50:38,552
and I thought, "Gosh,
it doesn't get more exciting
than this."
963
00:50:48,493 --> 00:50:51,600
One day, I got a call from
some lady that was, um...
964
00:50:51,634 --> 00:50:53,912
The details were very scarce
in the phone call.
965
00:50:53,947 --> 00:50:55,535
She said, "I represent," um...
966
00:50:56,087 --> 00:50:57,502
"a car company,
967
00:50:57,537 --> 00:50:59,573
"and they're looking
for somebody
968
00:50:59,608 --> 00:51:02,473
"to have a very
responsible position
969
00:51:02,507 --> 00:51:04,164
"within their design department,
970
00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:07,133
"and would you be interested?"
I said, "Of course,
but who are you?"
971
00:51:07,167 --> 00:51:08,800
And she's like,
"I can't tell you who we are,
972
00:51:08,824 --> 00:51:11,206
"but we need to have
this meeting."
973
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:13,967
A few days later,
a ticket came in the mail
974
00:51:14,001 --> 00:51:15,382
to fly to Turin, Italy.
975
00:51:15,417 --> 00:51:17,660
I just thought, "This
isn't anything too hard,"
976
00:51:17,695 --> 00:51:19,490
because Turin is Fiat.
977
00:51:21,319 --> 00:51:25,427
Basically, there I met
the head of design of Fiat,
978
00:51:25,461 --> 00:51:30,811
and I'd been discussing
my philosophies on design
and outlook.
979
00:51:30,846 --> 00:51:35,230
And they say, "Okay, we think
you're the right person
for this job,"
980
00:51:35,264 --> 00:51:37,508
while I was eating my tiramisu.
981
00:51:37,542 --> 00:51:40,442
The job offer's
to be the head of design,
982
00:51:40,476 --> 00:51:43,962
the director of design
of Ferrari and Maserati.
983
00:51:43,997 --> 00:51:46,206
And my tiramisu went...
984
00:51:48,035 --> 00:51:50,762
And I said, "Of course,"
you know,
985
00:51:50,797 --> 00:51:53,386
"I'll think about it
and get back to you
as quickly as I can."
986
00:51:53,420 --> 00:51:57,942
I went back to Munich thinking,
"My gosh!"
987
00:51:57,976 --> 00:51:59,530
It's an Italian Ferrari.
988
00:51:59,564 --> 00:52:02,257
And when it crosses the finish,
it makes the sixth year in a row.
989
00:52:02,291 --> 00:52:04,224
And the Ferrari has won.
990
00:52:04,259 --> 00:52:08,159
Every kid's dream
is to design a Ferrari,
991
00:52:08,194 --> 00:52:11,024
and suddenly,
to be offered this job,
992
00:52:11,058 --> 00:52:14,061
which is like the best job
in the world,
993
00:52:15,201 --> 00:52:17,168
I sort of started
to have my doubts.
994
00:52:21,103 --> 00:52:22,908
And I started to think,
"They don't know
who they're talking to.
995
00:52:22,932 --> 00:52:25,694
"They've got it all wrong.
I mean, if I accept
this position,
996
00:52:25,728 --> 00:52:27,528
"you know, everybody's
gonna be looking at me,
997
00:52:27,558 --> 00:52:30,112
"and if I get it wrong,
how embarrassing
that's gonna be
998
00:52:30,147 --> 00:52:32,183
"and that's the end
of my career,
I've thrown away
999
00:52:32,218 --> 00:52:34,185
"you know,
11, 12 good years of BMW
1000
00:52:34,220 --> 00:52:36,256
"just to take a chance, and...
1001
00:52:36,291 --> 00:52:38,051
"And fall flat on my face."
1002
00:52:38,085 --> 00:52:40,605
And basically,
that affected me
quite a bit.
1003
00:53:52,677 --> 00:53:55,128
If I needed any kind of advice,
1004
00:53:55,162 --> 00:53:59,995
my father was there for me
to support me 100%
all the way through my life.
1005
00:54:00,029 --> 00:54:03,378
Fact is, when I finally
did get going
into the design world,
1006
00:54:03,412 --> 00:54:05,828
he passed away
fairly shortly after.
1007
00:54:08,900 --> 00:54:11,213
He had a heart issue,
1008
00:54:11,248 --> 00:54:13,388
in the aorta valve.
1009
00:54:13,422 --> 00:54:16,045
And he could live with it.
It was no problem,
1010
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,462
but, you know,
his philosophy on life was,
1011
00:54:18,496 --> 00:54:21,430
you know, anything that
is not perfect, you gotta...
1012
00:54:21,465 --> 00:54:23,363
You gotta make it perfect.
1013
00:54:25,607 --> 00:54:28,748
He asked a doctor,
"If I have this replaced,
1014
00:54:28,782 --> 00:54:32,061
"will I be able to work out
more, you know, run?"
1015
00:54:32,096 --> 00:54:33,615
And the doctor said, "Yeah."
1016
00:54:35,375 --> 00:54:38,275
So he went for it
and it just went bad.
1017
00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:40,035
The operation went bad,
1018
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:44,211
and he had four heart attacks
after that operation
1019
00:54:44,246 --> 00:54:46,938
and the last one
was too strong, so...
1020
00:54:46,973 --> 00:54:50,010
That happened in December 1990.
1021
00:54:50,045 --> 00:54:52,668
And it was the worst day
in my life.
1022
00:54:55,499 --> 00:54:57,777
I'm sure you can tell that,
the way I talk about him,
1023
00:54:57,811 --> 00:55:01,332
he's absolutely
the biggest influence
you can have as a child.
1024
00:55:01,367 --> 00:55:03,645
And growing up,
and still, you know,
1025
00:55:03,679 --> 00:55:05,474
um, I remember him every day.
1026
00:55:05,509 --> 00:55:07,787
It's impossible
not to think about my father.
1027
00:55:10,445 --> 00:55:13,102
My father was my best friend.
He was...
1028
00:55:13,137 --> 00:55:16,358
You know, it almost felt like he was my
big brother most of the time instead of...
1029
00:55:16,382 --> 00:55:18,487
I could talk to him
about anything.
1030
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,147
I would feel so, so relieved
1031
00:55:23,181 --> 00:55:24,942
after talking to him.
1032
00:55:24,976 --> 00:55:28,704
You know, he would take that
huge weight off my shoulders
and I would feel like,
1033
00:55:28,739 --> 00:55:32,121
I'm at peace again,
and the world
is a good place to be.
1034
00:55:38,783 --> 00:55:40,440
My mother and I took his ashes
1035
00:55:40,475 --> 00:55:42,546
and we went right off there
to the point,
1036
00:55:42,580 --> 00:55:46,101
and that's where we...
Where I put his ashes at,
into the sea, um,
1037
00:55:46,135 --> 00:55:47,758
on the very end
of the pier there.
1038
00:55:59,252 --> 00:56:00,978
It just makes you realize that
1039
00:56:01,012 --> 00:56:05,085
no matter how good a car works,
1040
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,020
or a person is health wise,
1041
00:56:09,055 --> 00:56:13,611
we're all geared towards...
death.
1042
00:56:42,571 --> 00:56:45,574
I started reasoning slowly,
reasoning myself that
1043
00:56:45,609 --> 00:56:48,128
"I'm never gonna get
this chance again in my life."
1044
00:56:48,163 --> 00:56:50,717
You know, "Either you take it
and run with it,
1045
00:56:50,752 --> 00:56:52,374
"and... Okay.
1046
00:56:52,409 --> 00:56:54,514
"If it works, it works.
If it doesn't, you've tried."
1047
00:56:54,549 --> 00:56:57,552
And that was my overriding
feeling at the end.
1048
00:56:57,586 --> 00:56:59,450
Believe me, it took a while
to get there.
1049
00:57:05,076 --> 00:57:07,976
The F430 wasn't really about
1050
00:57:08,010 --> 00:57:13,257
designing something
radically different.
1051
00:57:13,291 --> 00:57:17,192
At Ferrari, I had
to design a car
that looked like a Ferrari.
1052
00:57:17,226 --> 00:57:19,539
It was my choice
of design language.
1053
00:57:19,574 --> 00:57:22,818
Of course, it's an excellent
design language,
1054
00:57:22,853 --> 00:57:25,200
but Ferrari
was more about adding
1055
00:57:25,234 --> 00:57:28,030
the Italian feel to it,
1056
00:57:28,065 --> 00:57:29,963
which is all about sensuality.
1057
00:57:34,209 --> 00:57:37,454
Of course, the sportiness
is very necessary.
1058
00:57:40,733 --> 00:57:43,770
But there's sort of
a fullness to the design.
1059
00:57:45,945 --> 00:57:48,395
There aren't a lot of
1060
00:57:48,430 --> 00:57:52,814
rotund, sensual-looking
animals that are very fast,
1061
00:57:52,848 --> 00:57:55,679
so it's a balance,
it's a tricky balance
to get it right.
1062
00:58:01,650 --> 00:58:03,997
After four years
of working with Ferrari,
1063
00:58:04,032 --> 00:58:06,137
thinking I was being, you know,
1064
00:58:06,172 --> 00:58:08,174
congratulated and...
1065
00:58:08,208 --> 00:58:10,625
And, um,
1066
00:58:10,659 --> 00:58:12,972
seen as a good designer,
1067
00:58:13,006 --> 00:58:15,699
the boss of Ferrari calls me up,
1068
00:58:15,733 --> 00:58:19,530
um, then he says, "Okay,
Monday you're going to Fiat."
1069
00:58:21,325 --> 00:58:23,948
So, I said, you know,
"Are you not happy
with what I'm doing?
1070
00:58:23,983 --> 00:58:26,330
"Why am I going
from heaven to hell?"
1071
00:58:26,364 --> 00:58:29,402
And he said, "We have
a new boss at Fiat,
Sergio Marchionne.
1072
00:58:29,436 --> 00:58:31,473
"He wants to speak to you
on Monday."
1073
00:58:31,508 --> 00:58:33,993
Fiat actually owns
Ferrari and Maserati,
1074
00:58:34,027 --> 00:58:37,548
and in 2006,
Fiat was, you know,
at the very bottom.
1075
00:58:37,583 --> 00:58:39,757
It was a really bad situation
for the company.
1076
00:58:39,792 --> 00:58:44,072
So I sat down with Sergio Marchionne
in his office and he goes, "Look,
1077
00:58:44,106 --> 00:58:48,455
"if we don't have a successful
new car on the market
in 10 months,
1078
00:58:48,490 --> 00:58:50,388
"we're gonna tank.
We're out of here."
1079
00:58:50,423 --> 00:58:52,494
He's talking about Fiat, right?
1080
00:58:52,529 --> 00:58:55,324
How do you make
a global success
with a Fiat?
1081
00:58:56,291 --> 00:58:58,017
I said, "Well, first of all,
1082
00:58:58,051 --> 00:59:02,159
"it takes
five years to develop
a successful new car.
1083
00:59:02,193 --> 00:59:03,412
"And if we're gonna
do it in 10 months,
1084
00:59:03,436 --> 00:59:05,172
"that means that the guy
who's buying the car
1085
00:59:05,196 --> 00:59:08,303
"is basically the test driver, because
we won't have all the testing done.
1086
00:59:08,337 --> 00:59:10,547
"Impossible. You can't design
1087
00:59:10,581 --> 00:59:12,238
"and bring out a new car
in 10 months
1088
00:59:12,272 --> 00:59:14,378
"and be guaranteed
of a success."
1089
00:59:14,412 --> 00:59:16,104
He said,
"Well, that's your job."
1090
00:59:16,138 --> 00:59:18,658
What do you do?
How do you...
1091
00:59:18,693 --> 00:59:20,902
You can't do it.
There's no way you can do it.
1092
00:59:20,936 --> 00:59:24,561
But then I got this flash.
1093
00:59:24,595 --> 00:59:29,600
Take the only existing Fiat
that was trickling
out of the factory,
1094
00:59:29,635 --> 00:59:32,120
which is the Fiat Panda,
1095
00:59:32,154 --> 00:59:34,501
and if we just took
the skin off of it,
1096
00:59:34,536 --> 00:59:38,160
kind of like taking a person
and just re-dressing them.
1097
00:59:39,403 --> 00:59:42,371
If we do that, then we're not
really changing the car,
1098
00:59:42,406 --> 00:59:45,409
we're not having
to re-homologate the car
for crash purposes.
1099
00:59:45,443 --> 00:59:48,239
That's already been done
with the Fiat Panda.
1100
00:59:48,274 --> 00:59:51,760
Luckily, Fiat had the Fiat
500 in their portfolio
1101
00:59:51,795 --> 00:59:53,520
from back in the '50s.
1102
00:59:53,555 --> 00:59:57,559
If we could take that car
and make it a modern version.
1103
00:59:57,594 --> 01:00:01,459
That's what we did.
And it took nothing
to design the car.
1104
01:00:01,494 --> 01:00:04,911
So basically, that car
was ready in 10 months,
and it was just amazing,
1105
01:00:04,946 --> 01:00:07,224
because, you know,
basically we were just
1106
01:00:07,258 --> 01:00:09,502
selling a different version
of the Panda
1107
01:00:09,536 --> 01:00:12,229
that looked like
the modern version
of the Fiat 500.
1108
01:00:12,263 --> 01:00:15,473
And again, that just took off
like a, you know, a blast.
1109
01:00:15,508 --> 01:00:17,303
Boom, 10 months, it was out.
1110
01:00:17,337 --> 01:00:19,581
And it went over
all the capitals in Europe.
1111
01:00:19,616 --> 01:00:22,101
Suddenly, they had a new
fashion car to be seen in
1112
01:00:22,135 --> 01:00:26,105
and it was, you know,
feminine and it was masculine
at the same time.
1113
01:00:26,139 --> 01:00:27,451
The older crowd loved it,
1114
01:00:27,485 --> 01:00:29,556
the newer, younger generation
loved it.
1115
01:00:30,834 --> 01:00:32,525
Huge success for them,
1116
01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:34,044
and saved the company.
1117
01:00:46,539 --> 01:00:48,506
There's one that's starting
to come in.
1118
01:00:52,856 --> 01:00:54,581
So if he turns this way,
he'll see it.
1119
01:01:03,729 --> 01:01:08,388
We live in an area where
there's a real abundance
of red kites.
1120
01:01:08,423 --> 01:01:10,080
What I like to do
is just come out
1121
01:01:10,114 --> 01:01:13,255
and, throw out
some raw chicken legs.
1122
01:01:16,811 --> 01:01:18,778
It kind of starts to resemble
1123
01:01:18,813 --> 01:01:20,746
a little bit of a dogfight
in the air
1124
01:01:20,780 --> 01:01:24,335
with them all starting
to challenge each other
for the food.
1125
01:01:25,854 --> 01:01:29,099
And it's one of the more
beautiful sights I've ever
seen in my life.
1126
01:01:41,870 --> 01:01:44,770
You can start from scratch,
which is one way of doing it.
1127
01:01:44,804 --> 01:01:48,359
Or you can take something
that's already beautiful and
make it even more beautiful.
1128
01:01:49,533 --> 01:01:52,087
And where better
to get inspired
than through nature,
1129
01:01:52,122 --> 01:01:54,607
which nobody says
that nature is ugly.
1130
01:01:54,641 --> 01:01:56,091
It's always...
1131
01:01:56,126 --> 01:01:58,926
It's accepted that it is
the most beautiful thing
that we have on Earth.
1132
01:02:04,237 --> 01:02:06,239
People consider today, cars,
you know,
1133
01:02:06,274 --> 01:02:09,001
and say, wow, how gorgeous
that car is and everything.
1134
01:02:09,035 --> 01:02:11,106
For me, the real beauty
is what came before that.
1135
01:02:11,141 --> 01:02:12,936
The horses that we were around,
1136
01:02:12,970 --> 01:02:15,317
and that's just natural beauty.
1137
01:02:15,352 --> 01:02:18,148
If you can take
that kind of emotion,
that kind of beauty
1138
01:02:18,182 --> 01:02:20,253
and put it
into something else...
1139
01:02:24,050 --> 01:02:26,570
you're gaining something,
you're adding something
to the world
1140
01:02:26,604 --> 01:02:27,744
that's very valuable.
1141
01:02:36,304 --> 01:02:39,514
2008, McLaren
was expressing concern
1142
01:02:39,548 --> 01:02:42,586
that Formula One
could potentially go,
1143
01:02:42,620 --> 01:02:45,589
you know, downwards,
and not be as successful.
1144
01:02:45,623 --> 01:02:49,386
They would need to guarantee
that the sustainability
of McLaren
1145
01:02:49,420 --> 01:02:52,216
in another way, which was,
instead of just racing cars,
1146
01:02:52,251 --> 01:02:53,770
they would be doing road cars.
1147
01:02:59,983 --> 01:03:01,985
This way, Monte.
Come on.
1148
01:03:03,641 --> 01:03:06,575
I got a phone call
and it was from McLaren.
1149
01:03:06,610 --> 01:03:09,199
He said, "If you want,
the job is yours,
1150
01:03:09,233 --> 01:03:11,132
"design director of McLaren."
1151
01:03:13,548 --> 01:03:15,964
"We don't have a design studio,
we don't have a design team.
1152
01:03:15,999 --> 01:03:17,345
"We don't have a car.
1153
01:03:17,379 --> 01:03:19,485
"And we need, basically,
somebody to come in
1154
01:03:19,519 --> 01:03:23,006
"and create that whole
design environment."
1155
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:24,731
Come on, Monte.
1156
01:03:28,563 --> 01:03:30,841
Having somebody tell me
to come work at McLaren
1157
01:03:30,876 --> 01:03:33,326
with a clean sheet of paper,
starting from scratch...
1158
01:03:33,361 --> 01:03:36,674
The engineering expertise
and race car engineers
1159
01:03:36,709 --> 01:03:38,815
and the facilities there,
1160
01:03:38,849 --> 01:03:41,231
you feel, really,
like you're walking
into the future.
1161
01:03:41,990 --> 01:03:43,405
It doesn't get better than that.
1162
01:03:46,098 --> 01:03:48,445
If you look at nature,
1163
01:03:48,479 --> 01:03:51,344
there's really nothing
ugly in nature.
Everything's beautiful.
1164
01:03:51,379 --> 01:03:53,070
But nothing's designed
to look beautiful.
1165
01:03:53,105 --> 01:03:55,279
It's just beautiful
because it works.
1166
01:03:56,971 --> 01:03:59,283
The thing with McLaren then was,
1167
01:03:59,318 --> 01:04:01,976
I could basically create
my own design language.
1168
01:04:04,771 --> 01:04:08,741
And that's where this love
that I've always had
of nature came in.
1169
01:04:16,991 --> 01:04:18,958
Shortly after starting
with McLaren,
1170
01:04:18,993 --> 01:04:21,616
I flew out to the Caribbean
for a short break.
1171
01:04:21,650 --> 01:04:25,206
And at the hotel or resort,
I recognized,
1172
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,898
a certain fish
that was on the wall
in the reception area.
1173
01:04:27,933 --> 01:04:30,694
This, stunning sailfish,
1174
01:04:30,728 --> 01:04:33,421
and, um, I asked
the director there
1175
01:04:33,455 --> 01:04:35,595
why he'd actually
put it on the wall.
1176
01:04:35,630 --> 01:04:39,082
He said, "Well, you know,
these are incredibly
difficult to capture
1177
01:04:39,116 --> 01:04:40,980
"because it's faster
than the cheetah."
1178
01:04:42,533 --> 01:04:45,157
Pretty amazing,
because it's going through
a much denser medium,
1179
01:04:45,191 --> 01:04:47,504
and a cheetah's on four legs
1180
01:04:47,538 --> 01:04:49,609
and going through air.
1181
01:04:49,644 --> 01:04:51,266
So I was intrigued by that,
1182
01:04:51,301 --> 01:04:54,166
such that I had
to have a sailfish.
1183
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,893
I went down
to the fishing village
1184
01:04:56,927 --> 01:04:59,274
and somebody
had just caught one.
1185
01:04:59,309 --> 01:05:01,000
I was able to have it stuffed,
1186
01:05:01,035 --> 01:05:02,933
and then had it shipped back
1187
01:05:02,968 --> 01:05:04,624
to the UK, to Heathrow.
1188
01:05:04,659 --> 01:05:08,111
We ended up having to take
one of the Formula One trucks
to pick it up
1189
01:05:08,145 --> 01:05:11,183
because the box
that they put it in
1190
01:05:11,217 --> 01:05:13,254
was absolutely massive.
1191
01:05:15,014 --> 01:05:18,086
The sailfish cost
a lot of money.
1192
01:05:19,294 --> 01:05:21,365
It was in the tens of thousands,
1193
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,542
enough to almost get me fired
in my first months at McLaren.
1194
01:05:27,406 --> 01:05:29,546
The finance director
from McLaren asked
1195
01:05:29,580 --> 01:05:32,514
why I had bought it
with my company credit card.
1196
01:05:32,549 --> 01:05:36,104
Obviously, they don't
understand why designers
1197
01:05:36,139 --> 01:05:39,004
pay good company money
on things like fish.
1198
01:05:40,384 --> 01:05:44,837
We basically found out
that the bumps
on the end of the torso
1199
01:05:44,871 --> 01:05:46,356
created the pocket of air
1200
01:05:46,390 --> 01:05:49,600
that enabled it
to be so streamlined.
1201
01:05:51,016 --> 01:05:53,535
So those bumps,
we put 'em
on the steering mirrors
1202
01:05:53,570 --> 01:05:56,745
to quieten the sound
of the air going around
the A-pillar.
1203
01:05:58,092 --> 01:06:00,404
That worked very effectively.
1204
01:06:00,439 --> 01:06:03,442
We were able to take
the texture of the scales
of the sailfish
1205
01:06:03,476 --> 01:06:06,272
and put those into
certain areas of the car
1206
01:06:06,307 --> 01:06:08,999
to increase the airflow
and the amount of air
1207
01:06:09,034 --> 01:06:12,278
and the speed of the air
into the engine.
1208
01:06:12,313 --> 01:06:14,556
So, little things from nature
that we were able to learn
1209
01:06:14,591 --> 01:06:17,732
from something that's existed
for a long, long time
1210
01:06:17,766 --> 01:06:20,700
actually seemed very futuristic.
1211
01:06:20,735 --> 01:06:22,806
But in effect,
they weren't futuristic.
1212
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,016
They were just an effect
of being curious about nature
1213
01:06:26,051 --> 01:06:28,467
and taking what
nature has taught us.
1214
01:06:34,059 --> 01:06:38,097
So, what you look at
when you're designing
fast cars like McLaren
1215
01:06:38,132 --> 01:06:40,513
is what makes an animal fast.
1216
01:06:46,519 --> 01:06:49,798
And the major common point
of all that
1217
01:06:49,833 --> 01:06:51,697
is what we call shrink-wrapped.
1218
01:06:51,731 --> 01:06:53,388
So, you see, on fast animals,
1219
01:06:53,423 --> 01:06:56,874
you see almost like
it has very low body fat,
1220
01:06:56,909 --> 01:06:59,291
the muscles are coming
through, the tendons.
1221
01:07:01,155 --> 01:07:03,053
And the skin is almost minimal.
1222
01:07:03,088 --> 01:07:04,986
It's just covering
what you need.
1223
01:07:06,850 --> 01:07:08,231
If you look at Ferraris,
1224
01:07:08,265 --> 01:07:11,165
Italian cars look Italian
'cause they're sensual.
1225
01:07:11,199 --> 01:07:13,546
You know... Mama...
You wash a Ferrari
1226
01:07:13,581 --> 01:07:15,410
and you spend four hours
washing the fender
1227
01:07:15,445 --> 01:07:17,723
just 'cause it feels
nice and sensual.
1228
01:07:17,757 --> 01:07:20,070
And your wife looks at you,
a bit strange, like...
1229
01:07:20,105 --> 01:07:21,623
"It's clean!"
1230
01:07:21,658 --> 01:07:24,592
But with the McLaren,
it was more about
a car that looked athletic
1231
01:07:24,626 --> 01:07:26,939
and like it'd been to the gym
and it had, you know,
1232
01:07:26,973 --> 01:07:28,320
watched what it was eating.
1233
01:07:34,498 --> 01:07:37,984
So that became the inherent
design language of McLaren,
1234
01:07:38,019 --> 01:07:39,917
was shrink-wrapped design.
1235
01:07:42,092 --> 01:07:45,026
Not overly adding surfaces
that you don't need
1236
01:07:45,061 --> 01:07:47,270
or volumes of surfaces
that you need.
1237
01:07:47,304 --> 01:07:49,686
So the McLaren started
achieving this sort of
1238
01:07:50,652 --> 01:07:51,964
athletic look.
1239
01:07:57,590 --> 01:08:01,318
I just take apart my bike
for fun sometimes.
1240
01:08:01,353 --> 01:08:03,673
And the fun of these bikes,
anyways, is looking at the bike
1241
01:08:03,700 --> 01:08:07,807
and I kinda don't like
covering things up
if I don't have to.
1242
01:08:07,842 --> 01:08:10,189
In this case, for example,
the engine
1243
01:08:10,224 --> 01:08:13,123
is part of the actual
rigidity of the frame.
1244
01:08:13,158 --> 01:08:16,506
It adds to the rigidity
of the bike.
1245
01:08:16,540 --> 01:08:20,372
So you have a minimal,
or minimalistic, almost,
type frame,
1246
01:08:20,406 --> 01:08:23,133
and the engine forms
part of that structure
1247
01:08:23,168 --> 01:08:25,101
to increase the strength of it.
1248
01:08:25,135 --> 01:08:27,079
The true beauty, I think,
is underneath that surface
1249
01:08:27,103 --> 01:08:29,139
when you start looking
at these components
1250
01:08:29,174 --> 01:08:30,589
and how they all come together.
1251
01:08:30,623 --> 01:08:35,249
This is the essential beauty
of the motorcycle.
1252
01:08:35,283 --> 01:08:37,158
With the McLaren, from
the design point of view,
1253
01:08:37,182 --> 01:08:39,736
when the engineers
come up with where
the engine's gonna be
1254
01:08:39,770 --> 01:08:41,151
and where the driver's
gonna sit,
1255
01:08:41,186 --> 01:08:42,601
where the wheels are at,
1256
01:08:42,635 --> 01:08:44,258
where the suspension is...
1257
01:08:45,293 --> 01:08:48,158
If you just took a bedsheet
1258
01:08:48,193 --> 01:08:50,171
and just threw it over
what we call the hardpoints,
1259
01:08:50,195 --> 01:08:52,921
those are points
you're not gonna
be able to move.
1260
01:08:52,956 --> 01:08:57,236
And you let that sheet
just drape itself
across the hardpoints,
1261
01:08:57,271 --> 01:08:59,514
that basically becomes
the shape of the car.
1262
01:09:01,792 --> 01:09:04,140
We were designing it
to be beautiful.
1263
01:09:04,174 --> 01:09:05,382
It just is beautiful
1264
01:09:05,417 --> 01:09:08,558
because that's
a beautiful way to design.
1265
01:09:08,592 --> 01:09:11,250
It's kinda like an athlete
with a suit on,
1266
01:09:11,285 --> 01:09:13,494
with a well-cut suit on it.
1267
01:09:16,945 --> 01:09:19,051
Yeah, more than happy.
More than happy.
1268
01:09:21,743 --> 01:09:23,883
Simmy, can I, like,
suck my stomach in
1269
01:09:23,918 --> 01:09:25,816
and you push your stomach out?
1270
01:09:25,851 --> 01:09:27,197
And you go like that?
1271
01:09:27,232 --> 01:09:29,579
And I'll go like that,
and we'll look about the same.
1272
01:09:30,925 --> 01:09:32,478
- Even out.
- Yeah.
1273
01:09:33,065 --> 01:09:34,411
It'll even out.
1274
01:09:34,446 --> 01:09:35,940
Did you own this car
before you met Frank?
1275
01:09:35,964 --> 01:09:38,035
- Or was it...
- No, no, no. After. After.
1276
01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:41,073
I was even influenced,
like, by Frank.
1277
01:09:41,107 --> 01:09:42,223
Not necessarily
to get this model,
1278
01:09:42,247 --> 01:09:44,076
but just what he'd done
1279
01:09:44,110 --> 01:09:47,562
with the design language
with McLaren, you know?
1280
01:09:47,597 --> 01:09:49,150
You don't get
to where Simeon's at
1281
01:09:49,185 --> 01:09:52,188
without having
an incredible mindset.
1282
01:09:52,222 --> 01:09:53,751
That's the other thing
that we had in common.
1283
01:09:53,775 --> 01:09:55,121
- I love to train.
- Yeah.
1284
01:09:55,156 --> 01:09:56,985
- And bodybuilding, you know,
- And hard work.
1285
01:09:57,020 --> 01:09:58,446
- 'Cause it's hard work.
- Hard work, yeah.
1286
01:09:58,470 --> 01:10:00,679
And sets to failure.
1287
01:10:00,713 --> 01:10:03,302
Because that's what
bodybuilding and gains
are all about,
1288
01:10:03,337 --> 01:10:04,614
going to failure
1289
01:10:04,648 --> 01:10:06,648
which is what our tenure
is about,
going to failure.
1290
01:10:09,515 --> 01:10:11,448
I know a lot of people
are probably
1291
01:10:11,483 --> 01:10:13,554
wondering what's
so aesthetical
about bodybuilding,
1292
01:10:13,588 --> 01:10:16,971
but that's the opposite
viewpoint that I have.
1293
01:10:19,180 --> 01:10:21,976
I've just always been interested
1294
01:10:22,010 --> 01:10:24,150
in not-normal human beings.
1295
01:10:25,151 --> 01:10:27,223
I love bodybuilding
because it's just,
1296
01:10:27,257 --> 01:10:30,329
it's just an optimized way
of tuning your body.
1297
01:10:33,815 --> 01:10:35,955
I see this huge correlation
1298
01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:38,026
between bodybuilding and design,
1299
01:10:38,061 --> 01:10:41,271
because it's the best
of the best.
1300
01:10:41,306 --> 01:10:43,031
Basically pushing it,
pushing it, pushing it
1301
01:10:43,066 --> 01:10:45,413
till you can't give any more
to what you're doing.
1302
01:10:45,448 --> 01:10:47,622
And you can always
give a little bit more.
1303
01:10:49,072 --> 01:10:51,557
But if you can come
as close as you can
to that limit,
1304
01:10:51,592 --> 01:10:52,845
you're not coming to perfection,
1305
01:10:52,869 --> 01:10:54,916
but you're doing, probably,
a better job than the next guy
1306
01:10:54,940 --> 01:10:56,942
who's not going
as far as you can.
1307
01:10:58,978 --> 01:11:01,153
All those factors help you
to get to
1308
01:11:01,187 --> 01:11:03,466
an end result that is
absolutely spectacular.
1309
01:11:03,500 --> 01:11:06,538
And generally, for the general
public, unachievable,
1310
01:11:06,572 --> 01:11:08,298
but you managed to get there.
1311
01:11:11,370 --> 01:11:13,821
When I was growing up,
I was having
1312
01:11:13,855 --> 01:11:17,203
to lift weights with my father.
1313
01:11:17,238 --> 01:11:19,136
Working out at
that kind of young age,
1314
01:11:19,171 --> 01:11:20,724
and keeping yourself
1315
01:11:20,759 --> 01:11:23,071
physically at the top
of your game
1316
01:11:23,106 --> 01:11:24,314
no matter what age you are,
1317
01:11:24,349 --> 01:11:26,420
that was one of the things
I had to do for him.
1318
01:11:27,559 --> 01:11:31,321
He was pumping weight gainer
into me every night.
1319
01:11:31,356 --> 01:11:32,702
I wasn't gonna be a scrawny kid,
1320
01:11:32,736 --> 01:11:35,083
there's no way I could have
been a scrawny kid
1321
01:11:35,118 --> 01:11:37,845
the way my father brought me up.
1322
01:11:37,879 --> 01:11:40,365
It seems like he was
really kind of preoccupied
1323
01:11:40,399 --> 01:11:42,505
with making you a man.
1324
01:11:43,678 --> 01:11:45,335
Yeah, it could be.
1325
01:11:45,370 --> 01:11:48,269
It could be that he was trying
to get me ready for life early,
I guess.
1326
01:11:48,304 --> 01:11:50,236
But, um...
1327
01:11:50,271 --> 01:11:52,204
I think he just
loved us to death.
1328
01:11:52,238 --> 01:11:55,000
Not literally, but loved us
1329
01:11:55,034 --> 01:11:57,209
in such a way that
he wanted us to...
1330
01:11:57,243 --> 01:12:00,074
He wanted to teach us,
my brother and I both,
1331
01:12:00,108 --> 01:12:01,627
everything he could teach us.
1332
01:12:02,594 --> 01:12:04,078
ASAP.
1333
01:12:04,112 --> 01:12:06,425
Not wait or not let us
learn it on our own,
1334
01:12:06,460 --> 01:12:09,255
but basically just be there
when we were learning things.
1335
01:12:10,843 --> 01:12:14,088
You set your own expectations
of where you wanna be in life
1336
01:12:14,122 --> 01:12:15,883
and what you wanna achieve,
1337
01:12:15,917 --> 01:12:19,335
and my father set these
levels up very high for me.
1338
01:12:19,369 --> 01:12:22,614
You have to be...
You have to be the best
1339
01:12:22,648 --> 01:12:24,754
at anything you do in life.
1340
01:12:24,788 --> 01:12:27,929
And I thought,
if I don't do it, I'm not...
1341
01:12:27,964 --> 01:12:32,209
Well, I'm not meeting
his expectations obviously,
for sure, for one,
1342
01:12:32,244 --> 01:12:34,419
but almost...
I always had the feeling
1343
01:12:34,453 --> 01:12:37,283
I'm never gonna be satisfied
or a happy person.
1344
01:12:38,768 --> 01:12:40,632
You know, pushing yourself
is tough,
1345
01:12:40,666 --> 01:12:44,290
because it takes it out of you mentally,
it takes it out of you physically,
1346
01:12:44,325 --> 01:12:46,741
you have to make
a lot of sacrifices
1347
01:12:46,776 --> 01:12:48,364
and that is draining
for a lot of people
1348
01:12:48,398 --> 01:12:51,608
and almost too high
of a price to pay.
1349
01:12:53,817 --> 01:12:55,163
When we did this project,
1350
01:12:55,198 --> 01:12:57,890
we took it into the big
presentation room
at McLaren
1351
01:12:57,925 --> 01:13:00,099
and presented it to Ron Dennis.
1352
01:13:00,134 --> 01:13:02,067
And I remember, his jaw dropped
1353
01:13:02,101 --> 01:13:04,897
because he suddenly
1354
01:13:04,932 --> 01:13:07,531
didn't know where the front
of the car was,
or the rear of the car was.
1355
01:13:07,555 --> 01:13:09,005
He was aghast.
1356
01:13:09,039 --> 01:13:12,249
He just looked at it and said,
"I don't understand
what this car is.
1357
01:13:12,284 --> 01:13:14,044
"Where is the front?
Where is the back?
1358
01:13:14,079 --> 01:13:15,712
"Is this what you've been
doing for a year?"
1359
01:13:15,736 --> 01:13:18,221
But then, yeah, he said,
"I could stop
the project right now
1360
01:13:18,255 --> 01:13:20,741
"because I really don't
understand what this car
is all about
1361
01:13:20,775 --> 01:13:23,191
"looking like that.
But if you believe in it
1362
01:13:24,365 --> 01:13:25,780
"then we'll go with it,"
1363
01:13:25,815 --> 01:13:28,783
and, "but if it
doesn't sell, you know,
you're gonna get..."
1364
01:13:28,818 --> 01:13:30,509
"axed."
1365
01:13:32,684 --> 01:13:36,791
As a designer, you have to be
in the right place mentally
1366
01:13:36,826 --> 01:13:38,586
to do your best work, I think.
1367
01:13:39,518 --> 01:13:42,314
And I wasn't mentally in...
1368
01:13:44,074 --> 01:13:47,699
I was doing the work,
I was being efficient
1369
01:13:47,733 --> 01:13:49,090
and still good
at what I was doing,
1370
01:13:49,114 --> 01:13:51,357
but it was a struggle
because I had...
1371
01:13:53,843 --> 01:13:55,983
It was a really tough time.
1372
01:14:01,126 --> 01:14:05,371
In 2016, two days before his...
1373
01:14:06,994 --> 01:14:09,721
His birthday, his 59th birthday,
1374
01:14:09,755 --> 01:14:11,170
my brother passed away.
1375
01:14:13,759 --> 01:14:17,453
He smoked so much that
eventually it caught up
with him.
1376
01:14:17,487 --> 01:14:20,490
It started, obviously,
in his lungs, and moved
to elsewhere.
1377
01:14:20,525 --> 01:14:24,218
The worst part of it all was
as that was happening,
1378
01:14:24,252 --> 01:14:27,186
my mother was seriously ill
with a stroke.
1379
01:14:31,501 --> 01:14:34,677
My brother was asking me
not to tell her because
he didn't want her to...
1380
01:14:36,126 --> 01:14:38,128
get any worse than she was.
1381
01:14:38,163 --> 01:14:39,692
So I made a promise to him
that I would wait
1382
01:14:39,716 --> 01:14:43,064
until she eventually was
back in good enough shape
1383
01:14:43,099 --> 01:14:46,482
to take the fact of
what was going to...
1384
01:14:47,828 --> 01:14:50,244
Obviously was going
to happen, so...
1385
01:14:50,278 --> 01:14:52,695
But that took another year.
1386
01:14:52,729 --> 01:14:54,973
So I couldn't tell her,
you know,
1387
01:14:55,007 --> 01:14:57,216
up to about a year
after he'd passed away.
1388
01:15:04,154 --> 01:15:07,054
If you can imagine
your mother asking you why
1389
01:15:07,088 --> 01:15:09,263
her other son doesn't
call her anymore,
1390
01:15:10,782 --> 01:15:12,197
what do you say?
1391
01:15:13,785 --> 01:15:15,176
I didn't deal with it,
that's the thing.
1392
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:16,857
I couldn't deal with it.
1393
01:15:16,891 --> 01:15:19,515
I had no way to deal with it.
1394
01:15:22,518 --> 01:15:26,591
You know, if you're a director of a
design department for a major company
1395
01:15:26,625 --> 01:15:28,800
that has to be doing great work,
1396
01:15:28,834 --> 01:15:33,080
you can't find an excuse.
There's no excuse.
1397
01:15:34,771 --> 01:15:37,981
Over a long period of time,
that...
1398
01:15:38,948 --> 01:15:41,433
that is excusable
for not performing,
1399
01:15:41,467 --> 01:15:44,056
so I was able to keep
1400
01:15:44,091 --> 01:15:47,232
sort of a facade up,
I think, um,
1401
01:15:47,266 --> 01:15:50,994
but it just didn't feel,
internally, it was,
1402
01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:55,999
an incredible weight
to carry around.
1403
01:16:02,730 --> 01:16:04,870
And in 2017, I thought,
1404
01:16:04,905 --> 01:16:07,563
you know,
it's a now or never thing,
I've got her back home
1405
01:16:07,597 --> 01:16:08,943
from the care home.
1406
01:16:13,361 --> 01:16:14,984
She couldn't walk
or anything like that.
1407
01:16:15,018 --> 01:16:16,882
So I wheeled her out
in the wheelchair
1408
01:16:16,917 --> 01:16:19,160
all the way down
to the port in Malaga
1409
01:16:19,195 --> 01:16:21,991
on a nice Sunday morning.
1410
01:16:25,788 --> 01:16:28,307
She asked me,
as she customarily did,
1411
01:16:30,033 --> 01:16:31,897
"Have you heard
from Raul lately?"
1412
01:16:34,451 --> 01:16:36,108
And I said, "Well,
1413
01:16:38,732 --> 01:16:42,598
"I don't think Raul will be
in contact with any of us
1414
01:16:43,460 --> 01:16:45,393
"again."
1415
01:16:45,428 --> 01:16:48,638
And after that
had sank into her,
she just started crying.
1416
01:17:00,650 --> 01:17:01,651
You know...
1417
01:17:11,385 --> 01:17:12,938
I'm sorry
you had to go through that.
1418
01:17:12,973 --> 01:17:14,457
No, it's okay.
1419
01:17:21,947 --> 01:17:23,362
Good boy.
1420
01:17:23,397 --> 01:17:25,399
How old was Monte
when you got him?
1421
01:17:25,433 --> 01:17:29,472
He was as small
as you're allowed
to get a dog.
1422
01:17:30,611 --> 01:17:32,371
We couldn't wait to see him,
1423
01:17:32,406 --> 01:17:34,546
so three weeks,
I already saw him,
1424
01:17:34,580 --> 01:17:38,101
and he still had a lot of
pink around his nose.
1425
01:17:38,136 --> 01:17:40,552
A lot of areas aren't dark
on the face at that time.
1426
01:17:40,586 --> 01:17:44,418
So he was pretty, you know...
1427
01:17:44,452 --> 01:17:47,041
Probably didn't recognize
anything except his own mother
1428
01:17:47,076 --> 01:17:48,905
and siblings, I guess,
1429
01:17:48,940 --> 01:17:51,597
but he's turned
into quite a dog.
1430
01:17:57,224 --> 01:18:01,193
I think dogs are
pretty much the best gift,
1431
01:18:01,228 --> 01:18:04,438
you know, from the guy upstairs.
1432
01:18:06,716 --> 01:18:09,236
Dogs don't move out on you
1433
01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:11,307
and they love you
no matter what.
1434
01:18:16,519 --> 01:18:18,901
Come here. Come on.
1435
01:18:22,214 --> 01:18:25,390
You get back in spades
what you give to him.
1436
01:18:25,424 --> 01:18:26,529
And it's just pure love.
1437
01:18:42,476 --> 01:18:43,580
Good boy.
1438
01:18:46,998 --> 01:18:48,482
Unconditional love.
1439
01:18:54,246 --> 01:18:56,317
When you reach
that period of your life
1440
01:18:56,352 --> 01:18:58,181
where you think
you're not gonna reach
1441
01:18:58,216 --> 01:19:01,426
a further extreme than
what you've already done,
1442
01:19:02,151 --> 01:19:03,739
I was starting to rethink,
1443
01:19:03,773 --> 01:19:06,189
"Am I going to continue
doing this for the rest
of my life?"
1444
01:19:08,053 --> 01:19:11,436
I was too intense, I think,
during the earlier
part of my life,
1445
01:19:11,470 --> 01:19:14,577
because I wasn't attached
in a long-term relationship
with anybody.
1446
01:19:14,611 --> 01:19:18,236
I just used to put
too much emphasis
on work.
1447
01:19:18,270 --> 01:19:21,998
And it's almost like trying
to lift more weight
than you can actually lift.
1448
01:19:22,033 --> 01:19:24,173
It starts crashing down
on top of you.
1449
01:19:24,207 --> 01:19:27,763
And if there's nobody there
to lift the weight off of you,
1450
01:19:27,797 --> 01:19:29,385
then you're kind of stuck.
1451
01:19:33,492 --> 01:19:35,080
My wife, Linda,
1452
01:19:35,115 --> 01:19:38,463
she's been able to help me
balance life and work.
1453
01:19:38,497 --> 01:19:41,155
People often say,
"My wife is my best friend."
1454
01:19:41,190 --> 01:19:43,054
She's a bit more than that.
1455
01:19:43,088 --> 01:19:45,539
As we've developed
our lives together
1456
01:19:45,573 --> 01:19:48,818
and gone through
a lot of situations
that make a relationship,
1457
01:19:48,853 --> 01:19:50,647
we've grown closer and closer.
1458
01:19:50,682 --> 01:19:53,409
We've become sort of like
a couple of molecules
1459
01:19:53,443 --> 01:19:56,584
that join together and become
something even stronger.
1460
01:20:00,623 --> 01:20:02,970
Things likeRiverbreeze,
my boat here,
1461
01:20:03,005 --> 01:20:06,284
it's a way to chill out
on the weekends.
1462
01:20:06,318 --> 01:20:08,527
It's hard to find
a better way
to enjoy a day
1463
01:20:08,562 --> 01:20:11,461
in the English countryside
than on the rivers.
1464
01:20:13,118 --> 01:20:16,225
When I moved to England,
I moved about
1465
01:20:17,226 --> 01:20:19,745
half a mile away
from Peter Freebody's,
1466
01:20:19,780 --> 01:20:21,609
which is the company
that's been around
1467
01:20:21,644 --> 01:20:23,991
for 300 years on this location.
1468
01:20:24,026 --> 01:20:26,407
And they've been
building wooden boats
1469
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:28,444
since way back then.
1470
01:20:30,964 --> 01:20:33,863
So we used to come down
to the workshop here
1471
01:20:33,898 --> 01:20:36,659
and watch them
build boats, old-style.
1472
01:20:36,693 --> 01:20:40,766
And at some point,
decided I gotta have
my own boat.
1473
01:20:40,801 --> 01:20:42,389
And I have to have it bespoke.
1474
01:20:43,908 --> 01:20:46,324
The only real elevation
that this boat has
1475
01:20:46,358 --> 01:20:49,499
is the propulsion system
which is all-electric.
1476
01:20:49,534 --> 01:20:52,433
It's about as silent
as it can be.
1477
01:20:52,468 --> 01:20:55,229
The fact that you don't
really disturb nature
while you're in this boat
1478
01:20:55,264 --> 01:20:58,681
but you're a part of it
makes the whole design
1479
01:20:58,715 --> 01:21:00,027
really sing, I think.
1480
01:21:02,719 --> 01:21:05,136
It's probably
the closest thing
I've ever come to,
1481
01:21:05,170 --> 01:21:06,896
to thinking about being perfect.
1482
01:21:06,931 --> 01:21:10,037
Because simply,
I had no desire to innovate.
1483
01:21:10,072 --> 01:21:13,144
I was not trying to think
how can I modify it, or...
1484
01:21:13,178 --> 01:21:14,870
And so, in that sense,
I'm kind of happy.
1485
01:21:14,904 --> 01:21:18,114
When I'm on the boat,
I don't feel like
I have to change anything.
1486
01:21:22,808 --> 01:21:26,191
When you're starting out
in design, you wanna do
the cool stuff.
1487
01:21:26,226 --> 01:21:29,885
The stuff that, you know,
you almost brag about.
1488
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,717
But when you've done it
and you've gotten
through that,
1489
01:21:34,751 --> 01:21:38,479
you see, what is the actual
practical value of your work.
1490
01:21:38,514 --> 01:21:40,654
And I've got to the point now
where I'm seeing...
1491
01:21:40,688 --> 01:21:42,794
I still got some time left
1492
01:21:42,828 --> 01:21:45,141
to do some real design.
1493
01:21:52,735 --> 01:21:53,988
For most people
I think, generally,
1494
01:21:54,012 --> 01:21:55,945
it's considered science fiction.
1495
01:21:55,980 --> 01:21:59,017
The thing is, at some point,
designers have to
1496
01:21:59,052 --> 01:22:01,399
turn science fiction
into reality.
1497
01:22:03,608 --> 01:22:04,712
The future's now.
1498
01:22:06,197 --> 01:22:08,820
What we're looking at here
is the very first prototype
1499
01:22:08,854 --> 01:22:11,616
in terms of what is
actually lifted off.
1500
01:22:12,651 --> 01:22:15,068
It's an evTOL jet, which means
1501
01:22:15,102 --> 01:22:17,863
Electrical, Vertical
Take-Off and Landing.
1502
01:22:17,898 --> 01:22:22,075
So what it will be
is a way to transport
1503
01:22:22,109 --> 01:22:24,456
around four, five people.
1504
01:22:24,491 --> 01:22:27,045
Different types of trips
that you would typically use
1505
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,289
either a train, or a taxi,
1506
01:22:29,323 --> 01:22:31,429
or maybe even
a short plane flight.
1507
01:22:32,671 --> 01:22:35,674
The advantage here is that
you're requiring a lot less
1508
01:22:36,468 --> 01:22:37,987
take-off and landing space,
1509
01:22:38,022 --> 01:22:39,333
roughly 12 square meters.
1510
01:22:39,368 --> 01:22:41,887
That means
pretty much anywhere.
It can adapt itself
1511
01:22:41,922 --> 01:22:43,924
from rooftops, high-rises,
1512
01:22:43,959 --> 01:22:47,963
parking lots, skyscrapers,
things like that,
1513
01:22:47,997 --> 01:22:52,105
that would have a pad
fitted out and such, that
you could land, take off.
1514
01:22:55,004 --> 01:22:58,525
The whole concept is
as silent as possible flight,
1515
01:22:58,559 --> 01:23:01,010
so it's not disturbing
people on the ground.
1516
01:23:01,045 --> 01:23:04,703
And it's operating between
300 meters and 3,000 meters.
1517
01:23:04,738 --> 01:23:08,052
That means you don't
have to worry about
pressurizing the cabin.
1518
01:23:08,086 --> 01:23:10,916
Most likely, at the beginning
you'll have a controller
1519
01:23:10,951 --> 01:23:15,024
or somebody who's on board
to make sure that
everything is running well.
1520
01:23:15,059 --> 01:23:17,578
Eventually, we'll go
fully autonomous.
1521
01:23:18,890 --> 01:23:21,306
The process of designing
something like this,
1522
01:23:21,341 --> 01:23:24,240
is, in terms of efficiency,
1523
01:23:24,275 --> 01:23:27,243
the very same thing
as when you design
a high-performance car.
1524
01:23:27,278 --> 01:23:31,109
But if you look at what
a hypercar is meant to do,
1525
01:23:31,144 --> 01:23:32,397
what a jet like this
is meant to do,
1526
01:23:32,421 --> 01:23:34,388
they're completely
different objectives.
1527
01:23:35,424 --> 01:23:37,357
Hypercars are pretty much
luxury items
1528
01:23:37,391 --> 01:23:39,290
that you really
don't need in your life.
1529
01:23:39,324 --> 01:23:41,671
But the purpose of this
is global.
1530
01:23:43,363 --> 01:23:45,261
I do see that at some point
in your life,
1531
01:23:45,296 --> 01:23:46,952
you should start doing things
1532
01:23:46,987 --> 01:23:50,163
that have a better use
for more people.
1533
01:23:53,097 --> 01:23:55,271
These really tend to make sense
1534
01:23:55,306 --> 01:23:57,722
when we get
volumes of them flying.
1535
01:23:57,756 --> 01:24:00,932
As many as we can get,
transporting or
connecting cities.
1536
01:24:03,348 --> 01:24:06,282
There's a lot of
engineering minds and IQ
1537
01:24:06,317 --> 01:24:09,113
going into how to
make this thing work.
1538
01:24:09,147 --> 01:24:10,700
My job is more about
1539
01:24:10,735 --> 01:24:13,634
making the actual
experience of flying
in one of these things
1540
01:24:13,669 --> 01:24:15,050
absolutely mindblowing.
1541
01:24:19,813 --> 01:24:21,297
There's always gonna be
a fear factor
1542
01:24:21,332 --> 01:24:23,368
of the first time
you try anything,
1543
01:24:23,403 --> 01:24:25,681
the first time
something comes in
1544
01:24:25,715 --> 01:24:27,165
that's bringing in
new technology,
1545
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:28,970
and especially when
we're talking about heights
1546
01:24:28,994 --> 01:24:30,962
and speed and things like that.
1547
01:24:32,067 --> 01:24:34,828
The beginning of aviation
was a very scary period.
1548
01:24:34,862 --> 01:24:37,175
But today, everybody
takes it for granted.
1549
01:24:37,210 --> 01:24:39,281
You don't really
think twice about it.
1550
01:24:39,315 --> 01:24:43,008
And if I can
create that feeling
for the passengers,
1551
01:24:43,043 --> 01:24:45,321
then, mission accomplished.
1552
01:24:49,636 --> 01:24:52,604
So right now,
if you look at it,
it looks super aggressive.
1553
01:24:52,639 --> 01:24:56,125
- Right? Almost like it has
teeth or something like that.
Wow, wow.
1554
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:57,620
Well, it's part of
the motor technology.
1555
01:24:57,644 --> 01:24:59,439
I can't get into
too much depth about it.
1556
01:24:59,473 --> 01:25:03,960
But I can say that basically
the cones are a requirement,
1557
01:25:03,995 --> 01:25:05,514
for thrust and things,
1558
01:25:05,548 --> 01:25:07,895
but if we can basically
clean it up in such a way
1559
01:25:07,930 --> 01:25:09,587
that it stays just as efficient,
1560
01:25:09,621 --> 01:25:13,384
then that would be
a much better look,
I would say.
1561
01:25:18,285 --> 01:25:21,702
It's kind of...
What kind of public
are you reaching out for?
1562
01:25:21,737 --> 01:25:24,153
You know, sports cars
tend to have
1563
01:25:24,188 --> 01:25:25,430
an aggressive nature to them
1564
01:25:25,465 --> 01:25:27,329
because they're all about
high performance.
1565
01:25:29,779 --> 01:25:34,163
When you're talking
about mass people's
transport vehicles,
1566
01:25:34,198 --> 01:25:37,166
we don't want these vehicles,
obviously, to look like
1567
01:25:37,201 --> 01:25:40,480
military objects that are
out to, you know,
1568
01:25:40,514 --> 01:25:41,998
harm people.
1569
01:25:42,033 --> 01:25:44,794
You're gonna want something
that's sort of more appealing.
1570
01:25:44,829 --> 01:25:48,212
You know, you can look
at the difference between
some types of aircraft,
1571
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:50,283
fighter planes.
1572
01:25:50,317 --> 01:25:54,942
Obviously, these are designed
for a single purpose.
1573
01:25:54,977 --> 01:25:57,082
Or you can start
to look at a little bit more,
1574
01:25:57,117 --> 01:25:58,946
things that are
a bit more cuddly.
1575
01:25:58,981 --> 01:26:00,810
These shapes here
appeal a bit more
1576
01:26:00,845 --> 01:26:03,468
in terms of wanting
to get closer to it
1577
01:26:03,503 --> 01:26:06,057
and interact with it.
1578
01:26:08,646 --> 01:26:11,649
All the people out there,
they don't believe
it's coming.
1579
01:26:11,683 --> 01:26:12,857
It's still too new for them,
1580
01:26:12,891 --> 01:26:14,376
and it'd be
somebody else's lifetime
1581
01:26:14,410 --> 01:26:17,275
that experiences
this vehicle, but...
1582
01:26:17,310 --> 01:26:19,070
I see it coming.
I know it's coming
1583
01:26:19,104 --> 01:26:22,211
a lot sooner than
the general public expected.
1584
01:26:34,465 --> 01:26:37,537
Cars have been around
for 100 years or more.
1585
01:26:39,263 --> 01:26:40,540
This is just kicking off,
1586
01:26:40,574 --> 01:26:43,508
and it's something that
has never been done before.
1587
01:26:46,546 --> 01:26:50,446
It really does get my blood
flowing pretty fast
1588
01:26:50,481 --> 01:26:53,208
when I think about
what it could be,
1589
01:26:53,242 --> 01:26:54,864
and the chance
and the opportunity
1590
01:26:54,899 --> 01:26:56,590
to be able to turn that
into reality.
1591
01:27:00,284 --> 01:27:03,045
Designing aircraft like this,
1592
01:27:03,079 --> 01:27:05,979
it's almost like you're able
to swim in deep waters,
1593
01:27:06,013 --> 01:27:10,294
but this is more like
where the Atlantic Ocean
and the Indian Ocean meet.
1594
01:27:10,328 --> 01:27:13,469
You get this kind of current
where everything is just
in turmoil
1595
01:27:13,504 --> 01:27:14,643
and really rough.
1596
01:27:17,093 --> 01:27:18,785
It's kinda like saying,
"Okay, I can swim,
1597
01:27:18,819 --> 01:27:20,442
"but can I swim
in these waters?"
1598
01:27:24,308 --> 01:27:28,035
My father,
he demanded perfection.
1599
01:27:29,658 --> 01:27:33,662
He taught me,
anything that's not perfect,
you gotta make it perfect.
1600
01:27:38,011 --> 01:27:40,427
It's a good thing
to strive for perfection.
1601
01:27:40,462 --> 01:27:43,741
Problem is,
perfection does not exist.
1602
01:27:43,775 --> 01:27:46,122
It's a winningless game.
1603
01:27:47,952 --> 01:27:49,264
So, what is perfect?
1604
01:27:50,368 --> 01:27:51,956
The only thing
I can describe it is,
1605
01:27:51,990 --> 01:27:54,234
it is the challenge
to make something
1606
01:27:54,993 --> 01:27:56,961
as unchangeable as possible.
1607
01:28:01,068 --> 01:28:04,934
If you look at anything,
it's never really perfect,
1608
01:28:04,969 --> 01:28:07,903
because there's the process
of evolution,
1609
01:28:07,937 --> 01:28:11,596
the constant drive to become
more effective
and more efficient.
1610
01:28:14,565 --> 01:28:16,118
Perfection just doesn't exist.
1611
01:28:16,152 --> 01:28:19,535
It's a nice word,
it's a nice thing to aim for.
1612
01:28:25,921 --> 01:28:30,477
But I need
that kind of challenge
1613
01:28:30,512 --> 01:28:32,099
to be happy, I think.
1614
01:28:34,378 --> 01:28:38,589
It's that trip that we're on
to get to that level.
1615
01:28:38,623 --> 01:28:41,143
It's frustrating because
you just can't get there.
1616
01:28:41,177 --> 01:28:43,248
And there's always...
I mean, I've always said it,
1617
01:28:43,283 --> 01:28:44,467
don't fall in love
with your design,
1618
01:28:44,491 --> 01:28:47,701
because you'll realize
at some point that it's...
1619
01:28:47,736 --> 01:28:50,186
You would have done
something differently
anyways again,
1620
01:28:50,221 --> 01:28:51,809
if you had a second chance.
1621
01:28:53,569 --> 01:28:58,333
That kind of challenge
to try to be able to make
something perfect
1622
01:29:00,818 --> 01:29:02,337
is never gonna end.
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