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Space exploration is humanity's grandest adventure.
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We've sent missions to visit all of the planets of the solar system
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and to gaze deep into distant galaxies.
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But how do we choose which missions go into space?
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Only a handful are launched every decade.
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And for every one that flies, dozens are left on the drawing board.
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This month on The Sky At Night we're looking at the selection
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of the European Space Agency's next mission.
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My finalists are now waiting to hear who will get the final spot
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onboard ESA's new rocket.
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I do feel a bit nervous.
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I slept well, but woke up ridiculously early.
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Two of those teams are from the UK.
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Yeah, checking my phone throughout to see if e-mails will come in,
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but I've not heard any specific news yet.
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And before we reveal the victor, we'll be finding out how they choose
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which mission will go into space and which simply won't fly.
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Welcome to The Sky At Night.
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This is the headquarters of the European Space Agency in Paris.
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Right now, it's hosting a meeting of the Science Programme Committee,
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the representatives of the 22 member states, who have to decide
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what ESA's next mission will be.
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ESA is building a new rocket that can carry two scientific
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probes to space.
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One of these missions has already been selected.
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And now teams from all over Europe are fighting for the other spot.
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It will be called an F-Class mission.
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And although the F stands for fast, the mission itself
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won't launch until 2028.
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The agency received 23 proposals covering everything from exploring
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an asteroid to high-energy astrophysics.
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Each one could transform our view of the universe.
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They can only pick one.
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And by lunchtime today, we think we'll have a winner.
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This will be the first F-Class mission that ESA has announced.
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They're designed to be smaller, lighter and cheaper
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than their usual missions,
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to test innovative ideas and different concepts.
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Now, we say cheap -
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this mission is due to cost around 150 million euros.
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And it has to meet some pretty tight specifications, too,
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including weighing less than 1,000kg.
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If it meets these requirements, ESA will cover the costs of building
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the spacecraft and launching it on an Ariane rocket.
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And although ESA doesn't know which mission they'll launch yet,
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they do know where the spacecraft will be positioned,
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at a very specific point in space.
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As we all know, the Earth goes around the sun in what is pretty
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close to a circular orbit.
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But around this orbit there are some very interesting locations.
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They're called Lagrange points.
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Lagrange points occur because of the way the forces
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of gravity and orbiting bodies interact.
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Anything that finds itself in one of these locations will stay
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there in a fixed position relative to the Earth,
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as they all go around the sun.
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Let's start with Lagrange point one.
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That sits in here,
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about 1.5 million km away from the Earth.
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Now this is the ideal position for a solar observatory,
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because it has an uninterrupted view of the sun
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as the Earth orbits the sun.
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Next we have Lagrange point four
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and Lagrange point five.
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They sit at an angle of 60 degrees ahead of the Earth
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and behind the Earth.
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Despite being millions of kilometres away from the sun and Earth,
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objects here will stay in a fixed position relative to the Earth,
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as it orbits the sun.
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Next we have L3.
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That sits all the way over here, on the other side of the sun.
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It is permanently out of view of the Earth
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and a long, long way away from the Earth,
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so we don't do much out here.
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But that brings me to L2.
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This point sits 1.5 million km away from the Earth
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and it has unobscured views of deep, dark space.
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It's unobscured by the Earth, it's unobscured by the sun
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and any of the inner planets.
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And it's at this location that ESA wants to put its first F-Class mission.
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Lagrange point two is a perfect place to study the wonders
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of deep space.
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And this F-Class mission won't be alone on its journey,
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it will be piggybacking on another mission, sharing the same rocket.
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The Ariel Exoplanet Atmospheres mission is already being planned
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at University College London.
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Its principal investigator is Professor Giovanna Tinetti.
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Giovanna, we're here to talk about your latest mission, Ariel.
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But before that, is it weird having an interloper,
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someone piggybacking on your rocket?
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Well, it's not weird.
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It's actually fantastic.
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I'm really delighted about that idea, because you see
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we were having all these, um,
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big rockets just for ourselves and a lot of empty space,
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and so, finally, we can fill this empty space with a great mission.
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So, I'm looking forward to the selection of that mission.
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So, now, let's focus a bit more on Ariel itself.
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What is Ariel designed to do?
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Ariel's going to look at the atmospheric composition
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and the weather for about 1,000 planets in our own galaxy.
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So, we are very excited about that.
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But how is it going to work?
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How is it going to measure these exoplanet atmospheres?
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Maggie, if I can ask you to hold this up.
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OK, this lamp will be the light from the star. OK.
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And typically, the star has a planet that is orbiting around it.
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When the planet is passing in front of the star it is basically masking
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some of the light.
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And when that happens, then we can work out how big is the planet
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compared to the star, which is great. Yes.
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But we want to do even more.
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And that's where Ariel comes in.
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To measure the different gases in the atmosphere at these
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distant worlds, Ariel will use an instrument called a spectrograph.
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What we'll do with a spectrograph is to look at the light from the star
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and split the light into colours or wavelengths.
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Which is what we see here? Exactly.
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So, this is the spectrum of the star. Yeah.
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And then we wait for the planet to pass in front of the star.
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And when that happens, the planet has an atmosphere with some molecules
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and each molecule will absorb a different colour in a different way.
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And, you know, what is quite incredible is that every molecule,
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every atom has its own unique signature.
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And that's why we can find out, then, what is the composition,
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what is the chemistry of our planet.
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So if you see the same fingerprint of a chemical that we've measured
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here on Earth, in that spectrum, you'll know that that chemical
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exists in that atmosphere? Absolutely.
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So, how long until we get those first results?
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So, both Ariel and the other mission will be launched in 2028,
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and then we need to wait about six months before they really arrive
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where they're supposed to be. At least in the case of Ariel,
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we will start to get spectra, and so we will start
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about six months after launch.
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So, we're talking a ballpark figure of ten years
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before we start getting results?
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It's a long time. I know, I know.
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But actually, if you talk to the engineers who are really building
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and doing the hard job of building the spacecraft and the payload,
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then they will tell you the ten years is not really such a long time.
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Well, I think we should put a date in the calendar for ten years' time,
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so we can come back and speak to you and find out about
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the amazing results Ariel's discovered.
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I look forward to it.
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It was only last year that ESA invited scientists to pitch
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their ideas for a space mission to launch
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in the rocket alongside Ariel.
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It was a galvanising call -
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23 proposals from all over Europe were submitted,
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each proposing different areas of outer space to explore.
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Following an intensive selection process,
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these have been whittled down to five finalists,
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and two of them originate from this unlikely looking
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British Space Centre, deep in the Surrey countryside.
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We asked Lucie Green to meet the teams.
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This is the Mallard Space Science Laboratory or MSSL to its friends.
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It's a Department of UCL and for over 50 years
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it has been at the cutting edge of space science.
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I've been working at MSSL for over 15 years,
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and now two of my colleagues are in with a chance
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to launch their ideas into space.
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The first team is led by Professor Geraint Jones.
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His mission is called the Comet Interceptor.
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Hi, Lucie.
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Congratulations on being shortlisted. Thank you, yeah.
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Tell me about Comet Interceptor and what the aims are for the mission.
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OK. As its title suggests, we want to go to a comet,
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but unlike previous missions, we want to go to a comet
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that we don't know about yet.
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So, one that's coming in towards the sun for the very first time.
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We've visited comets before,
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so why is it so important that we visit another one?
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So, from previous comet missions we've learnt a huge amount,
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so Giotto to Halley, Rosetta to Churymov-Gerasimenko.
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So, there have been big advances in our understanding,
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but the comets that have been visited by spacecraft up to now
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have all been past the sun many times.
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Each time they pass close to the sun, the ices on the surface
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get heated, they change and they also get covered in this layer of dust
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that falls back down onto the nucleus.
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So, we'd like to see a pristine one coming in from the outer solar
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system for the very first time.
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Why is it so important for you to get to a pristine comet
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that hasn't had any of this processing? What does it tell us?
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So the expectation is that if we can visit one of these objects
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that hasn't been processed, so one that was around when the proto
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planetary disc was here, before the planets were formed,
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but was ejected out of the solar system into what's known
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as the Oort cloud, this huge cloud of icy objects stretching
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all the way out to roughly halfway to the nearest star,
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if we can visit one of those objects, we will truly see
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what the original material was like when the planets were being formed.
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But getting a good view of a comet is going to take some clever
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manoeuvring and camerawork.
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PhD Student George Brydon is working on this.
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Now you've been involved in the mission since the start,
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how is the spacecraft going to work?
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So the spacecraft sits at L2,
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while telescopes search for a suitable comet,
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and then, once one's found, it will head off and intercept it.
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When it reaches the comet, a few days before the flyby,
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it splits into separate spacecraft.
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They pass by the comet, but they take slightly different paths,
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so they get a different view.
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The advantage of this is that, because you've got spacecraft
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from different points, you're able to learn more
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about the structure of the comet.
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And what data will be collected on these flybys?
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Particular interest, I think, is the large number of cameras
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onboard this spacecraft.
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And so the blue spacecraft that gets close
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actually has a camera onboard that's able to scan the whole sky.
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Similar in a way to this commercial 360-degree camera we have here.
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So, we have several snapshots passing through the comet.
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Using those and the data from the other cameras as well,
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we'll be able to reconstruct in 3-D
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the nucleus itself, and also the gas and dust jets coming off it.
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So, if we get selected and we gather the data,
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then we can imagine putting on a VR helmet and actually looking it
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down towards the nucleus and see the gas and the dust coming off
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this object, which is boiling away for the first time
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after being formed billions of years ago.
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And how are you feeling? The decision is imminent.
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Nervous, yeah.
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If we're not selected, um,
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it will of course be disappointing.
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But we have a mission concept,
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which I'm sure we'll be proposing again in the future.
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Well, fingers crossed.
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Thank you.
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The atmosphere here is tense,
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as situated down the hall from the Comet Interceptor team sits
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the competing British mission
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that's amongst the final five on the short list.
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A mission called Debye, led by Professor Rob Wicks.
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Debye plans to study how energy is transferred
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out in the vacuum of space.
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The big question we're trying to answer is how does heat
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travel around in outer space and in the universe?
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So, here in the atmosphere, if I lit a candle over here
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and it got warmer where you are,
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that heat has got to you through conduction and convection,
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and that is molecules bumping into each other in the air.
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In space, that doesn't happen. It's a vacuum.
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Collisions between electrons and protons, or other bits of the gas,
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don't happen very often.
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So something else has to pass that energy from electron to electron
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to transfer the heat from here to there.
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on a space mission.
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and an electron can enter there.
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..we can supply an electric field in this instrument, to the sphere,
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and that will then deflect an electron when it comes in
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and the electron will be bent down,
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until it hits a detector down here on this plate.
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And that tells you then about the properties of the electrons.
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It's very challenging to do this measurement,
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because the electrons are so light.
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So you've got your electron measurements,
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and then you need to, what, join the dots with the other data
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that you're collecting from the spacecraft to understand
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what's heating the plasma?
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themselves, the magnetic fields and the electric fields
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in the plasma.
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over here get hot, what they also do is they make electric fields
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and they make magnetic fields.
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The mission is to look for a small population of electrons
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that are going a bit faster or a bit slower
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than they should be.
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we'll look for a little wave in the magnetic field,
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and a little wave in the electric fields.
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If we see those things at the same time,
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we can say that wave has scattered
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or collided with those electrons
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and caused them to be moved around.
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The decision's not far off now.
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Are you feeling nervous? A little bit, yeah.
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It's actually a lot like waiting for your A level results.
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Daniel and I worked together very closely, with more than 120 people
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across Europe to put this proposal together,
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and so, no matter what happens tomorrow,
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I'm happy with what we've done.
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I think we've done ourselves proud.
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Here in Paris, whilst the committee is working hard to make
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a final decision, there's nothing anyone can do but wait.
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ESA's science programme costs each of us a euro a year.
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It's not much, but we can't fund everything,
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so hard decisions have to be made.
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And two British suggestions illustrate the diversity of ideas
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that's out there.
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You don't get much more different, after all, between a fundamental
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physics mission, and a trip to a comet.
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So how do you choose?
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How do you pick the one mission with the star quality to succeed?
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To find out, I sat down with Dr Fabio Favata,
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Head of ESA's Strategy Planning and Coordination Office.
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One founding principle of the ESA Science Programme
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is that all of our science choices, science priorities,
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science selections are done by a peer review committee,
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by a committee of scientists... By other scientists?
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By other scientists that don't work for ESA.
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They're selected from the community for their, of course,
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seniority, for their competence,
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and they make the final scientific selection.
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Yeah, but how do you pick from such a diverse set of options?
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You could go to Mars, or look at an asteroid,
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or study the High Energy Universe.
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Those don't feel like the same kind of thing.
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How do you compare such different missions?
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The proposals that make it to the final shortlist, usually,
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are all so good, they all deserve implementation.
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So it's a very frustrating activity for the members
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of the peer review committee.
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Yet it's a choice that we have to make, because of the resource
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limitations, and we can only afford to fly one mission
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at the current time.
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Well, let's talk about this Fast mission.
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This didn't exist a couple of years ago,
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the idea that you'd fly this mission.
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Can you tell us how that idea came about?
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One was the fact that, you know,
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the European rocket launcher programme is evolving.
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Ariane 6 is more powerful than the previous option,
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and so we've been designing missions for a certain size,
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and now we've discovered that we can carry more.
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So we said, "Can we implement faster a smaller mission
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"that allows us to take benefit of this?"
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So there's a meeting downstairs to make this decision.
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What do you think will come out of it? I don't know.
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All I can tell you is that the leading contenders are so good
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that there certainly will be a mission that I'm sure
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will be exciting, and we'll be happy to discuss whatever choice will be
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in the future. We'll come back and talk to you when we know
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what the mission's going to be. It would be a great pleasure.
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Luckily, you don't need to be selected for a space mission
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to gaze out into the night sky.
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This month, we're going to observe one of its most
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spectacular sights - Jupiter.
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Jupiter is currently very low in the UK sky.
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In fact, it's almost as low as it can possibly get
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in the sky itself.
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Now, that means the observational window for us is pretty short,
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but if you've got a telescope and use a bit of magnification,
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you can see plenty of detail on Jupiter's disc.
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Now, the skies are a bit cloudy at the moment, but hopefully
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we will get some clear gaps where I can see Jupiter,
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and if it does appear, I'm going to grab it
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with my 14-inch telescope.
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You don't really need a massive telescope to do this,
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but I want to get in nice and close, so we get a good picture of it.
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And I've got a high frame rate camera.
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I'm also using an infrared filter, that helps to steady the image.
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What remains is for us to wait and hope that the cloud gaps
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come over in time.
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Jupiter's atmosphere appears as segregated bands of gas,
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so we'll be looking out for belts on its disc.
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But viewing conditions are far from ideal.
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I can see Jupiter,
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so we have got a gap in the clouds.
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First thing you notice with Jupiter is you get a disc
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which looks squashed, because it's a fast-rotating gas planet.
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So it expands at the equator, and it looks squashed at the poles,
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but you can see that Jupiter's definitely banded.
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As the planet rotates, you get these vicious jet streams,
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basically dragging material round, creating this banding effect.
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But we have got something, which is really good.
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Another sight to behold is the four moons that orbit the planet -
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Io, Europa, Ganymede and Callisto.
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Tonight, we hope to observe the transit
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of Jupiter's largest moon.
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I can see Ganymede very close to the edge of Jupiter.
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It's about to just head off as Jupiter ends the transit.
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the disc as well, so that will give us a Ganymede shadow transit.
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a dark shadow, it's very large, and it stands out really well
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against Jupiter's bright disc.
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Unfortunately, clouds stopped me from observing the shadow transit...
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It's gone again.
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..but what is it that transits can tell us?
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Ganymede or its shadow passes across Jupiter's discs,
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so a tiny amount of light is blocked from the planet,
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and it's possible to measure that minute dimming of Jupiter,
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and work out that there's something in orbit around it.
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This is similar to a method used to find exoplanets -
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by observing a distant star and looking out
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for a reduction in light.
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at regular intervals, then it's probably due to a planet.
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As we know, the aerial mission will be studying exoplanets,
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and to do this accurately,
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the team at UCL will need to know the precise transit time
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of the exoplanets across their stars.
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And this is where amateurs can get involved,
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because Ariel is planning to bring together individuals
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with all different sizes of telescopes to create a network
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dedicated to the observing of exoplanet transits.
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Now, these observations will help refine the data about the planets
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and their orbits, paving the way for Ariel
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to characterise their atmospheres.
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More details of how to get involved can be found
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on the Ariel Mission website.
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It's decision day.
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Which one of the missions will be chosen to be launched
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on ESA's latest rocket?
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The leaders of both UK teams are not in Paris.
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They're actually in the same presentation,
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in the same room at UCL,
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anxiously waiting for news.
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A little nervous. I did get some sleep last night,
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but I woke up incredibly early.
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Rob and Daniel are in the room here with me as well,
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so we've got a day of listening to project talks today.
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Hopefully, at some point, we'll hear the news.
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It's a nail-biting morning, but at two o'clock,
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the moment they've been waiting for finally arrives.
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Er... Yeah, just received an e-mail from ESA,
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confirming the Comet Interceptor has been recommended
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for further study.
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So, um...
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Yeah, quite a relief.
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If all goes well from here on, then it will keep us busy
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for between 12 and 15 years into the future.
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So should keep me busy all the way to retirement, I think.
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HE LAUGHS
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In Paris I caught up with Chris Lee,
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the UK's man on the committee.
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So, you're just out from the meeting.
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We hear a decision has been made. What happened?
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Right, so, Comet Interceptor has been selected.
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Oh, that's good news.
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And that's a British-led mission as well.
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What we really wanted with the F mission was something
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that was innovative, something that put technology together
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in really interesting ways.
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And the thing I think we all agreed in the meeting was that
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Comet Interceptor came up with a really imaginative approach
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of using existing solutions for instrumentation and spacecraft,
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but put together in a package we'd never seen before,
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and which will be very fast.
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We have to move quickly, because we already have a mission
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that's going to go. That's Ariel? That's the Ariel programme.
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And so it's the ride that joins the Ariel initiative,
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and the clock is ticking already.
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What are the next stages that this mission will go through?
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It's got approval today. What happens next?
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OK, so, first of all, it was a genuine competition,
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so it's won because of science merit,
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but what we now need is a detailed study to work out exactly
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what the technology needs to be, what the instrument needs to offer,
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what the spacecraft needs to address,
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and then we will get a costed proposal, and it's at that point,
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the mission is what we call "formally adopted".
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And that will be around November 2020.
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What does that mean for the UK Space Agency in the UK?
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Well, first of all, it means we have to pay for it.
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So, the thing that we have to try and emphasise to people
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is that our investment in ESA pays for the spacecraft,
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pays for the launch, pays for the operations,
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but we actually pay for the instruments ourselves
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through the national programme, so it's a partnership.
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Like the cameras, and the things that will do the science?
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Absolutely. So yes, it's led by the UK, but we have to recognise
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it's a strong European project.
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So these are European missions,
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but both Ariel and Comet Interceptor, now,
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are UK-led missions.
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Why do these missions get people excited?
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Well, I think it's important to realise that we are
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a UK Space Agency for science, as well as for industry and economics.
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So from our point of view, it's great to have a motivational
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programme from a space science perspective, because we are living
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in a golden age of European space science, and we can show that
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the UK's not only being involved in the building of the spacecraft,
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but actually contributing to the reason you're flying it
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in the first place.
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Well, it's a good story, and I hope we'll come back to it
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again and again in the years leading up to and after launch.
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Chris, thank you very much.
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Thanks, Chris.
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Geraint can't wait to share the exciting news with his mission
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co-leader, Dr Colin Snodgrass, from the University of Edinburgh.
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Hi, Colin. Hi.
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I guess you got the same e-mail as I just did.
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Yes, very good e-mail to get. Yeah. Exciting news.
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Huge relief, so, yeah, sorry we're not in the same place
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to share the news, but somewhere out there,
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beyond the orbit of Pluto,
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there's something approaching the sun,
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and we don't know about it yet, but hopefully we'll get to see it.
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OK, I'll speak to you again later.
499
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Thanks for all your help with this.
500
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Yeah, thanks a lot. See you.
501
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All right. Bye. Bye.
502
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Congratulations. Thanks very much. Very well deserved. Well...
503
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The other team has taken the news graciously,
504
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but ESA's announcement wasn't all bad news for the Debye mission.
505
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So I've just received an e-mail saying that the first-choice mission
506
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is Comet Interceptor, and the second choice, and a backup
507
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if Comet Interceptor runs into trouble, is Debye - my mission.
508
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So, a fantastic result.
509
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Obviously we'd rather be number one, but if you can't be
510
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number one, you better be number two, and that's what we've done.
511
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So, a great result for UCL,
512
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great result for Mars Space Science Laboratory,
513
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and I couldn't be... Well, I could be slightly happier,
514
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but I'm not unhappy.
515
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Considering that we started from scratch last year,
516
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with a completely new mission concept, that's very exciting,
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very good news for us.
518
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Of course, if ESA needs us at any point, we will be ready.
519
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We won't throw away the mission concept, and maybe we'll find
520
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another home for this proposal, but at this point,
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it's really just a great result.
522
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We're very happy.
523
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It's been an exciting day for UK space science.
524
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In 2028, ESA will propel two British scientific probes
525
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out beyond Earth's orbit, to make discoveries about exoplanets
526
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and the origins of the solar system.
527
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Congratulations to the Comet Interceptor team,
528
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and we'll look forward to following their progress
529
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on The Sky at Night, as they head towards launch.
530
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That's all we've got time for this month, but do join us again
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for the next programme, where we'll be finding out about
532
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the latest research into exoplanets.
533
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Also, in the autumn, we'll be holding The Sky At Night
534
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Question Time, where Pete, Chris, myself and some selected
535
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special guests will be answering your questions
536
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in front of a studio audience.
537
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So if you've got a question you'd like to put to the team,
538
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send it in to...
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Until then, goodnight.
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