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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,178 --> 00:00:06,180 Previously, on "The InBetween"... 2 00:00:06,223 --> 00:00:08,008 I see ghosts. I hear them. 3 00:00:08,051 --> 00:00:09,400 Cassie! 4 00:00:09,444 --> 00:00:10,967 Sometimes they send me a message. 5 00:00:11,011 --> 00:00:12,099 You have to stop him. 6 00:00:12,142 --> 00:00:14,318 And sometimes they just show up. 7 00:00:14,362 --> 00:00:16,320 My daughter has certain abilities 8 00:00:16,364 --> 00:00:17,887 that can be very helpful. 9 00:00:17,930 --> 00:00:20,020 She's over here! She's still alive. 10 00:00:20,063 --> 00:00:22,022 But what she sees... 11 00:00:22,065 --> 00:00:23,632 It's incredibly rough on her. 12 00:00:23,675 --> 00:00:26,069 I saw some strange stuff last night, 13 00:00:26,113 --> 00:00:28,071 and I think it might be related to your case. 14 00:00:28,115 --> 00:00:31,857 Let me out! 15 00:00:31,901 --> 00:00:34,773 Everybody, your attention, please. 16 00:00:37,124 --> 00:00:38,560 Sergeant Ballion has agreed 17 00:00:38,603 --> 00:00:40,823 let our task force address you before role call 18 00:00:40,866 --> 00:00:43,266 so that we can give you as much information as possible today 19 00:00:43,304 --> 00:00:45,001 before you're out on the street. 20 00:00:45,045 --> 00:00:47,525 As you all know, the last three years, 21 00:00:47,569 --> 00:00:50,659 three newlywed couples have been brutally murdered 22 00:00:50,702 --> 00:00:52,182 in their own homes. 23 00:00:52,226 --> 00:00:54,837 The man has been tortured and shot. 24 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,187 The woman has been drowned. 25 00:00:57,231 --> 00:01:00,930 The killer always strikes on the same date: Today. 26 00:01:00,973 --> 00:01:03,019 This is the year that we stop him. 27 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:04,586 Our team will comb the tip lines 28 00:01:04,629 --> 00:01:07,284 and get you the best leads you can follow up on. 29 00:01:07,328 --> 00:01:08,633 Bulletins have been sent 30 00:01:08,677 --> 00:01:10,357 to all neighborhood watch offices and HOAs. 31 00:01:10,381 --> 00:01:13,377 There is no question this guy stalks his victims, 32 00:01:13,421 --> 00:01:16,337 possibly for the 12 months leading up to each kill. 33 00:01:16,380 --> 00:01:18,121 So don't be too quick to dismiss reports 34 00:01:18,165 --> 00:01:20,297 of men and women saying they are being followed 35 00:01:20,341 --> 00:01:22,181 or complaints their homes have been vandalized. 36 00:01:22,205 --> 00:01:24,127 Everything must be checked out, 37 00:01:24,171 --> 00:01:26,216 especially if the complainant has been married 38 00:01:26,260 --> 00:01:27,783 for less than one year. 39 00:01:27,826 --> 00:01:31,917 We are not gonna let this guy slip through the net again. 40 00:01:31,961 --> 00:01:35,399 All right, let's hit the streets. 41 00:01:35,443 --> 00:01:37,314 We're doing everything we can. 42 00:01:37,358 --> 00:01:39,316 Seattle's practically on lockdown. 43 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,101 I just hope it's enough. 44 00:01:41,144 --> 00:01:43,451 What smells so delicious? 45 00:01:43,494 --> 00:01:45,627 - Waffles. - My favorite. 46 00:01:45,670 --> 00:01:47,107 Go for it. 47 00:01:47,150 --> 00:01:49,892 Tom went into work early, so you're gonna eat his share 48 00:01:49,935 --> 00:01:50,893 as well as your own. 49 00:01:50,936 --> 00:01:52,547 Not bad news, I hope. 50 00:01:52,590 --> 00:01:54,331 - You mean the newlywed killer. - Yeah. 51 00:01:54,375 --> 00:01:57,508 So far, all is quiet. That reminds me, 52 00:01:57,552 --> 00:01:59,684 Tom got you a pepper spray keychain. 53 00:01:59,728 --> 00:02:02,252 To go with the TASER he got you when you went off to college. 54 00:02:02,296 --> 00:02:04,646 And the self-defense classes 55 00:02:04,689 --> 00:02:06,126 in high school. 56 00:02:06,169 --> 00:02:09,216 I was one badass freshman. 57 00:02:09,259 --> 00:02:10,608 I made way too much food here. 58 00:02:10,652 --> 00:02:12,610 You know what, think I'm gonna bring some over 59 00:02:12,654 --> 00:02:13,959 to the precinct later. 60 00:02:14,003 --> 00:02:16,179 I'm sure they'd appreciate that. 61 00:02:16,223 --> 00:02:18,790 Let me help you. 62 00:02:39,637 --> 00:02:41,117 No! 63 00:02:48,864 --> 00:02:52,084 Is there any way you can identify her? 64 00:02:52,128 --> 00:02:54,217 Maybe we could still get to her in time. 65 00:02:54,261 --> 00:02:56,350 I could barely make out her face 66 00:02:56,393 --> 00:02:58,830 just through all the water. 67 00:02:58,874 --> 00:03:00,571 I didn't see anything else. 68 00:03:00,615 --> 00:03:02,312 I'm sorry. 69 00:03:02,356 --> 00:03:03,661 That's all right, kid. 70 00:03:03,705 --> 00:03:06,490 Listen, I appreciate you calling. 71 00:03:06,534 --> 00:03:08,231 Bye. 72 00:03:08,275 --> 00:03:11,060 You made all this food. 73 00:03:11,103 --> 00:03:13,628 Kinda lost my appetite. 74 00:03:15,020 --> 00:03:17,109 He's just so stressed about this case. 75 00:03:17,153 --> 00:03:19,242 I just wish I could be more helpful. 76 00:03:19,286 --> 00:03:20,806 Hey, come on, you're doing your best. 77 00:03:20,830 --> 00:03:23,420 We all just want to stop this guy before he strikes again. 78 00:03:23,464 --> 00:03:24,595 Yeah. 79 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,816 Which reminds me, Tom got you a present. 80 00:03:27,859 --> 00:03:29,948 It's a pepper spray keychain. 81 00:03:30,732 --> 00:03:33,778 To go with the taser he got me when I left for college. 82 00:03:33,822 --> 00:03:35,258 Yeah, exactly. 83 00:03:35,302 --> 00:03:39,175 Brian, you gave me this already. 84 00:03:39,219 --> 00:03:41,612 Right, of course. 85 00:03:41,656 --> 00:03:43,875 I'm gonna get some more coffee. 86 00:03:49,141 --> 00:03:51,056 Detective, is it the newlywed killer? 87 00:03:51,100 --> 00:03:52,319 Did he strike again? 88 00:03:52,362 --> 00:03:53,722 Detective, do you have any leads? 89 00:03:53,766 --> 00:03:55,091 - What have we got? - Jim and Shelly Edwards. 90 00:03:55,115 --> 00:03:56,115 Married seven months. 91 00:03:56,148 --> 00:03:57,508 Looks like the killer gained access 92 00:03:57,532 --> 00:03:59,239 when Shelly was alone Saturday afternoon. 93 00:03:59,282 --> 00:04:00,631 No forced entry. 94 00:04:00,675 --> 00:04:02,392 So she let him in just like the other victims. 95 00:04:02,416 --> 00:04:03,736 Husband arrived around 8:00 p.m. 96 00:04:03,765 --> 00:04:05,245 We think he was struck on the head 97 00:04:05,288 --> 00:04:06,550 as he entered the house. 98 00:04:06,594 --> 00:04:08,136 Restrained, tortured all night, and then shot. 99 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,560 Shelly was drowned in their bathtub. 100 00:04:09,597 --> 00:04:11,251 No sexual assault, no robbery. 101 00:04:11,294 --> 00:04:13,078 Wallets were left full of cash. 102 00:04:13,122 --> 00:04:14,802 Exactly the same as the last three years. 103 00:04:14,826 --> 00:04:17,169 Well, not quite. 104 00:04:17,213 --> 00:04:19,084 This way. 105 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:31,488 Looks like he got his hands free. 106 00:04:31,532 --> 00:04:33,795 Probably while the killer was filling the bath. 107 00:04:33,838 --> 00:04:36,406 Edwards managed to dial 911, but he was shot 108 00:04:36,450 --> 00:04:38,321 before he could tell them their address. 109 00:04:38,365 --> 00:04:40,280 Still gave them a chance to GPS the phone. 110 00:04:40,323 --> 00:04:41,803 Uniforms were here in ten minutes. 111 00:04:43,805 --> 00:04:46,155 A pink flower petal. 112 00:04:46,198 --> 00:04:47,722 In our previous murders, 113 00:04:47,765 --> 00:04:51,247 the killer has had time to clean up. 114 00:04:51,291 --> 00:04:54,424 This time, he's in a bit of a rush. 115 00:04:54,468 --> 00:04:56,208 Any other flowers around the house? 116 00:04:56,252 --> 00:04:58,428 No. Looks like a carnation. 117 00:04:58,472 --> 00:05:00,300 Shelly Edward's sister is here. 118 00:05:00,343 --> 00:05:01,953 She's in the living room. 119 00:05:01,997 --> 00:05:05,435 We found these, flower petals in their room. 120 00:05:05,479 --> 00:05:07,785 Do you think she'd let in a flower delivery man? 121 00:05:07,829 --> 00:05:09,526 I wanna say no, 122 00:05:09,570 --> 00:05:11,354 but Jim would sometimes send her a bouquet 123 00:05:11,398 --> 00:05:13,356 for no reason. 124 00:05:14,270 --> 00:05:15,967 They were happy? No problems? 125 00:05:16,011 --> 00:05:17,621 Not that I know of. 126 00:05:17,665 --> 00:05:20,494 But a few days ago Shelly and I went for coffee, 127 00:05:20,537 --> 00:05:24,541 and she was very anxious, looking around a lot, jumpy. 128 00:05:24,585 --> 00:05:27,370 I asked her what was wrong and she told me 129 00:05:27,414 --> 00:05:29,633 she thought someone was following her. 130 00:05:29,677 --> 00:05:32,810 Now, thinking back on it, there was more to it. 131 00:05:32,854 --> 00:05:34,986 Something she didn't want to tell me. 132 00:05:35,030 --> 00:05:36,336 Like she knew the guy? 133 00:05:36,379 --> 00:05:38,381 Maybe. 134 00:05:38,425 --> 00:05:41,036 I remember thinking she doesn't just look scared, 135 00:05:41,079 --> 00:05:42,994 she looks... 136 00:05:43,038 --> 00:05:44,822 guilty. 137 00:05:46,650 --> 00:05:49,305 It's in pretty good shape if you wanna take a look. 138 00:05:54,397 --> 00:05:56,181 - Melinda! - Cassie. 139 00:05:56,225 --> 00:05:58,314 My God! 140 00:05:58,358 --> 00:06:00,751 - How are you? - I'm good! 141 00:06:00,795 --> 00:06:01,839 Yeah, I'm okay. 142 00:06:01,883 --> 00:06:04,102 - It's been a long time. - Yeah. 143 00:06:04,146 --> 00:06:05,669 I'd love to catch up, 144 00:06:05,713 --> 00:06:07,845 see what you've been doing since high school. 145 00:06:07,889 --> 00:06:10,457 You're kind of looking at it. 146 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:12,937 I get a break in about 20 minutes. 147 00:06:12,981 --> 00:06:14,025 Sounds great. 148 00:06:14,069 --> 00:06:15,984 Until then, how about a mimosa? 149 00:06:16,027 --> 00:06:17,812 On the house. 150 00:06:17,855 --> 00:06:19,596 Thank you. 151 00:06:21,032 --> 00:06:23,426 I'll see you in a bit. 152 00:06:29,432 --> 00:06:31,521 Hey, you made it. 153 00:06:31,565 --> 00:06:33,828 - Brilliant. - Yeah, thanks to you 154 00:06:33,871 --> 00:06:35,786 I'm officially consulting on this case. 155 00:06:35,830 --> 00:06:38,398 Damien, right? Good to see you again. 156 00:06:38,441 --> 00:06:40,041 - Same here. - Manny worked these murders 157 00:06:40,065 --> 00:06:42,445 since day one. We could use his experience. 158 00:06:42,489 --> 00:06:43,969 Biggest regret was taking retirement 159 00:06:43,993 --> 00:06:45,709 with this bastard still on the loose. 160 00:06:45,753 --> 00:06:47,407 Mind if I walk the scene? Sure. 161 00:06:47,450 --> 00:06:48,712 I'll stay and take you through. 162 00:06:48,756 --> 00:06:52,412 Meet you back at the precinct. Sounds good. 163 00:06:58,330 --> 00:07:00,681 Hey. 164 00:07:00,724 --> 00:07:03,292 So we're, shorthanded today, 165 00:07:03,335 --> 00:07:06,251 so I really only have five minutes, but... 166 00:07:06,295 --> 00:07:08,906 what if we got lunch later this week? 167 00:07:08,950 --> 00:07:10,647 I'd like that. 168 00:07:10,691 --> 00:07:12,693 It is really good to see you. 169 00:07:13,911 --> 00:07:15,913 For what it's worth, I still feel awful 170 00:07:15,957 --> 00:07:18,307 about the way I acted back in school. 171 00:07:18,350 --> 00:07:20,570 Cass. 172 00:07:20,614 --> 00:07:22,267 You were going through a hard time. 173 00:07:22,311 --> 00:07:23,834 You'd just lost your mom. 174 00:07:23,878 --> 00:07:25,836 I know, but... 175 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,623 you tried to be there for me and II just cut you off. 176 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,453 I'm really sorry. 177 00:07:34,628 --> 00:07:38,022 Now I feel like a jerk. 178 00:07:40,677 --> 00:07:43,898 I knew you worked here when I came in. 179 00:07:43,941 --> 00:07:45,856 Okay. 180 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:48,250 I wanted to talk to you about something. 181 00:07:48,293 --> 00:07:51,296 About what? 182 00:07:51,340 --> 00:07:53,951 Do you remember, um... 183 00:07:53,995 --> 00:07:58,782 sophomore year when Craig Hasler died? 184 00:07:58,826 --> 00:08:00,392 Sure. 185 00:08:00,436 --> 00:08:02,960 It was a brain aneurysm. 186 00:08:03,004 --> 00:08:04,353 Yeah. 187 00:08:04,396 --> 00:08:07,530 Maybe a week later you, me, some of the other girls 188 00:08:07,574 --> 00:08:10,490 decided to contact him on a Ouija board. 189 00:08:10,533 --> 00:08:12,927 Nothing was happening, 190 00:08:12,970 --> 00:08:15,973 and then suddenly, you started to... 191 00:08:16,017 --> 00:08:18,759 freak out. 192 00:08:18,802 --> 00:08:21,805 You said that you could see Craig. 193 00:08:21,849 --> 00:08:23,546 I mean, the other girls were pissed. 194 00:08:23,590 --> 00:08:26,375 They thought you were just trying to scare them, but... 195 00:08:26,418 --> 00:08:28,464 You were the only one who believed me. 196 00:08:28,508 --> 00:08:30,248 I was your best friend. 197 00:08:30,292 --> 00:08:32,163 Yeah. 198 00:08:32,207 --> 00:08:36,341 And after that is when you stopped speaking to me. 199 00:08:36,385 --> 00:08:38,169 I should have been more honest 200 00:08:38,213 --> 00:08:41,085 about what was going on with me. 201 00:08:41,129 --> 00:08:44,088 And the truth is, it's still kind of complicated. 202 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,005 Would it be okay if we talked about it later 203 00:08:48,049 --> 00:08:49,180 when we have more time? 204 00:08:49,224 --> 00:08:50,791 - Yeah, of course. - Yeah. 205 00:08:50,834 --> 00:08:53,358 Of course, I didn't mean to upset you. 206 00:09:17,295 --> 00:09:19,907 You're engaged? 207 00:09:19,950 --> 00:09:23,563 Yeah, I was. 208 00:09:23,606 --> 00:09:26,653 She had a car accident. 209 00:09:28,393 --> 00:09:31,832 We had had an argument. 210 00:09:31,875 --> 00:09:34,617 I don't even remember what it was about, but... 211 00:09:36,967 --> 00:09:39,317 Jenna... 212 00:09:39,361 --> 00:09:42,582 was driving home. 213 00:09:42,625 --> 00:09:45,628 She called me to apologize. 214 00:09:45,672 --> 00:09:49,066 Sheshe said, "There's something I want you to know." 215 00:09:49,110 --> 00:09:50,328 Something important." 216 00:09:50,372 --> 00:09:53,114 But before she could... 217 00:09:55,072 --> 00:09:56,508 It has been two years. 218 00:09:56,552 --> 00:09:59,686 I cannot take this ring off of my finger. 219 00:09:59,729 --> 00:10:02,253 I can't stop thinking about what she wanted 220 00:10:02,297 --> 00:10:04,821 to tell me that night. 221 00:10:04,865 --> 00:10:07,084 Is she trying to get through to me? 222 00:10:07,128 --> 00:10:09,478 It's just that I... 223 00:10:09,521 --> 00:10:12,437 can't hear her. 224 00:10:12,481 --> 00:10:16,006 But maybe I can. 225 00:10:16,050 --> 00:10:21,055 So you want me to try to talk to her? 226 00:10:21,098 --> 00:10:23,231 You can say no... 227 00:10:25,581 --> 00:10:27,975 But please don't. 228 00:10:28,018 --> 00:10:29,150 Of course. 229 00:10:29,193 --> 00:10:30,934 I mean, I can try. 230 00:10:30,978 --> 00:10:32,632 Thank you. 231 00:10:44,295 --> 00:10:46,646 Thanks. Ballistics are in. 232 00:10:46,689 --> 00:10:48,809 Our victim, Jim Edwards, was shot with the same weapon 233 00:10:48,833 --> 00:10:50,073 as the previous three husbands: 234 00:10:50,097 --> 00:10:51,302 A .22 caliber. 235 00:10:51,346 --> 00:10:53,478 Well, our killer's consistent, I'll give him that. 236 00:10:53,522 --> 00:10:55,480 Always seemed odd to use such a small gun. 237 00:10:55,524 --> 00:10:57,482 I mean, why not a .38, a .44? 238 00:10:57,526 --> 00:10:58,962 Well, a .22 makes less racket, 239 00:10:59,006 --> 00:11:00,921 still gets the job done close range. 240 00:11:02,052 --> 00:11:03,271 Where are we? 241 00:11:03,314 --> 00:11:05,034 Forensics is still processing the apartment. 242 00:11:05,058 --> 00:11:06,666 We found a carnation petal at the scene. 243 00:11:06,709 --> 00:11:08,549 Uniforms are canvassing the local flower shops. 244 00:11:08,580 --> 00:11:10,340 I've gotta update the mayor's office in 20. 245 00:11:10,364 --> 00:11:11,714 Any new insights? 246 00:11:11,758 --> 00:11:13,498 I've been reviewing the files, 247 00:11:13,542 --> 00:11:15,718 putting together a profile of the killer. 248 00:11:15,762 --> 00:11:17,807 He's all about power and control. 249 00:11:17,851 --> 00:11:19,591 Rituals are clearly important. 250 00:11:19,635 --> 00:11:22,682 He's detail-oriented... Meticulous, even. 251 00:11:22,725 --> 00:11:24,335 But here's what's tripping me up: 252 00:11:24,379 --> 00:11:25,815 Usually, when a couple is murdered, 253 00:11:25,859 --> 00:11:28,731 one gender is obviously the real target. 254 00:11:28,775 --> 00:11:31,734 David Berkowitz, for example, shot couples parked in cars, 255 00:11:31,778 --> 00:11:33,997 but his motivation was anger towards women 256 00:11:34,041 --> 00:11:35,303 for rejecting him. 257 00:11:35,346 --> 00:11:37,653 With this guy, I... I'm not so sure. 258 00:11:37,697 --> 00:11:39,655 He spends hours with the women 259 00:11:39,699 --> 00:11:41,352 before the husband comes home. 260 00:11:41,396 --> 00:11:43,267 Now, if she is the primary target, 261 00:11:43,311 --> 00:11:45,574 he could just kill her and leave, 262 00:11:45,617 --> 00:11:47,445 never even deal with the man. 263 00:11:47,484 --> 00:11:48,724 Only the husbands are tortured. 264 00:11:48,748 --> 00:11:50,268 The real point is having them together 265 00:11:50,312 --> 00:11:52,192 so they can see what the other is going through. 266 00:11:52,216 --> 00:11:53,713 Maybe he was engaged, married. 267 00:11:53,756 --> 00:11:55,540 Ended badly. Wife might have left him 268 00:11:55,584 --> 00:11:57,717 for another guy. So the female victim's 269 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,196 a surrogate for the bride he lost 270 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,373 and the husband represents the man who stole her away. 271 00:12:02,417 --> 00:12:04,636 I went through the victim's calendars, and get this, 272 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:06,726 Shelly Edwards has the same notation 273 00:12:06,769 --> 00:12:09,380 every Thursday at 6:00 p.m. 274 00:12:09,424 --> 00:12:12,775 Which is... "NWSG." 275 00:12:12,819 --> 00:12:15,038 That's it? Just an acronym? 276 00:12:15,082 --> 00:12:16,344 No address, no notes. 277 00:12:16,387 --> 00:12:17,787 Did you ask the sister about this? 278 00:12:17,811 --> 00:12:19,695 No one close to her seems to know what it is. 279 00:12:19,739 --> 00:12:22,567 And the first entry is six months ago. 280 00:12:22,611 --> 00:12:24,411 That's right after the Edwards were married. 281 00:12:24,435 --> 00:12:28,051 Do you remember NWSG with any previous murder? 282 00:12:28,095 --> 00:12:29,935 - No, it's new to me. - But anything that might 283 00:12:29,978 --> 00:12:32,067 have to do with their wedding is worth looking into. 284 00:12:32,111 --> 00:12:34,884 I agree. Let me know what you find. 285 00:12:36,233 --> 00:12:37,974 I'll be right back. 286 00:13:19,886 --> 00:13:22,932 - "Ashley." - That's what it read. 287 00:13:22,976 --> 00:13:24,804 - First name, last name? - I couldn't tell. 288 00:13:24,847 --> 00:13:27,110 But you're positive it's connected to our case? 289 00:13:27,154 --> 00:13:28,895 Well, from all the slashing that went on 290 00:13:28,938 --> 00:13:30,722 and the drowning earlier, yeah. 291 00:13:30,766 --> 00:13:32,855 Yeah, I'm positive. 292 00:13:32,899 --> 00:13:34,552 Anyway, I'm gonna go home. 293 00:13:34,596 --> 00:13:36,554 I'll let you know if I see anything else. 294 00:13:36,598 --> 00:13:39,122 - Thanks, kid. - Yeah. 295 00:13:39,166 --> 00:13:41,081 There's never been a victim or a witness 296 00:13:41,124 --> 00:13:43,953 on this case before named Ashley. 297 00:13:43,997 --> 00:13:46,434 If our killer was abandoned by a fiancée at some point, 298 00:13:46,477 --> 00:13:49,306 her name could be Ashley. 299 00:13:49,350 --> 00:13:50,830 - Hey, Hackett? - Yeah. 300 00:13:50,873 --> 00:13:52,309 I've got something. 301 00:13:52,353 --> 00:13:54,616 There are no security cameras on the Edwards' block, 302 00:13:54,659 --> 00:13:56,487 but I pulled up as much footage as I could 303 00:13:56,531 --> 00:13:59,186 from the places they frequent. 304 00:13:59,229 --> 00:14:00,970 And I found this. 305 00:14:01,014 --> 00:14:02,885 So the sister was right. 306 00:14:02,929 --> 00:14:04,769 Shelly did know the guy that was following her. 307 00:14:04,793 --> 00:14:07,063 Yeah, the sister also said Shelly was acting guilty. 308 00:14:07,107 --> 00:14:09,979 Maybe she was having an affair. 309 00:14:10,023 --> 00:14:11,633 Is there more than one encounter? 310 00:14:11,676 --> 00:14:13,591 Yeah, he was persistent. 311 00:14:13,635 --> 00:14:15,855 This is Shelly's fitness studio. 312 00:14:15,898 --> 00:14:18,292 I put it through the DMV facial recognition software 313 00:14:18,335 --> 00:14:20,207 Clay Rollins. 314 00:14:20,250 --> 00:14:21,686 Does he have a record? 315 00:14:21,730 --> 00:14:24,080 Mostly petty stuff, but he did 13 months 316 00:14:24,124 --> 00:14:26,343 for domestic battery on his ex-wife. 317 00:14:28,824 --> 00:14:32,262 Let's bring him in. 318 00:14:32,306 --> 00:14:33,960 How did you know Shelly? 319 00:14:34,003 --> 00:14:36,323 We used to date in college, but it wasn't anything serious. 320 00:14:36,347 --> 00:14:38,529 Then why do we have you on security tape harassing her 321 00:14:38,573 --> 00:14:40,401 the week before she was murdered? 322 00:14:40,444 --> 00:14:41,881 I wasn't harassing her. 323 00:14:41,924 --> 00:14:44,187 I ran into Shelly about four months ago. 324 00:14:44,231 --> 00:14:46,189 We went for a drink and she started telling me 325 00:14:46,233 --> 00:14:47,799 that she wasn't happy. 326 00:14:47,843 --> 00:14:49,683 Marriage was more complicated than she thought, 327 00:14:49,707 --> 00:14:50,802 blah, blah, blah. 328 00:14:50,846 --> 00:14:52,892 I've been married before, so I gave her some advice. 329 00:14:52,935 --> 00:14:55,024 - You said you had a drink. - Yeah. 330 00:14:55,068 --> 00:14:57,244 - Where? - The bar at Columbia Hotel. 331 00:14:57,287 --> 00:14:59,115 At what point in the evening did you decide 332 00:14:59,159 --> 00:15:01,335 to take your conversation upstairs to one of the rooms? 333 00:15:01,378 --> 00:15:03,032 We didn't. 334 00:15:03,076 --> 00:15:06,427 That particular night we had sex in my car. 335 00:15:08,037 --> 00:15:09,734 How long were you seeing each other? 336 00:15:09,778 --> 00:15:11,606 Couple of months. 337 00:15:11,649 --> 00:15:13,913 We'd get together once a week or so. 338 00:15:13,956 --> 00:15:15,836 She had a standing Thursday night appointment. 339 00:15:15,860 --> 00:15:18,047 Was that you? No, Thursdays I play poker. 340 00:15:18,091 --> 00:15:20,571 - We need to check your alibi. - You can have at it. 341 00:15:20,615 --> 00:15:22,573 Digsy's Poker Palace in Georgetown. 342 00:15:22,617 --> 00:15:24,575 I'm a regular. You do a lot of gambling 343 00:15:24,619 --> 00:15:25,925 for a guy on parole, Clay. 344 00:15:25,968 --> 00:15:27,752 Look, Shelly and I had a thing. 345 00:15:27,796 --> 00:15:29,580 She ended it, I tried to change her mind. 346 00:15:29,624 --> 00:15:31,974 - That is it. - Why'd she end it? 347 00:15:33,106 --> 00:15:35,325 She had this crazy reason. 348 00:15:35,369 --> 00:15:37,153 Someone left a bunch of flowers at her work 349 00:15:37,197 --> 00:15:40,026 and she thought it was me being cute. 350 00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:42,158 She was pissed. I don't blame her. 351 00:15:42,202 --> 00:15:45,466 Yeah, but that's the thing... It wasn't me. 352 00:15:46,380 --> 00:15:48,860 Did she say what kind of flowers they were? 353 00:15:48,904 --> 00:15:51,733 Pink carnations. 354 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,177 I remember that bouquet, sure. 355 00:16:01,221 --> 00:16:02,700 It was about two weeks ago. 356 00:16:02,744 --> 00:16:04,398 I was pulling into the parking lot 357 00:16:04,441 --> 00:16:07,270 and I saw a guy just leaving them by the back door. 358 00:16:07,314 --> 00:16:08,619 Was there a card? 359 00:16:08,663 --> 00:16:10,447 No, nothing, so I brought them in 360 00:16:10,491 --> 00:16:12,101 and told Shelly about it when she got in. 361 00:16:12,145 --> 00:16:13,363 But she wasn't happy. 362 00:16:13,407 --> 00:16:15,148 Did she seem frightened? 363 00:16:15,191 --> 00:16:17,019 More annoyed than anything. 364 00:16:17,063 --> 00:16:18,623 I said maybe they were from her husband, 365 00:16:18,647 --> 00:16:20,066 and she said Jim knew better. 366 00:16:20,109 --> 00:16:22,198 He'd send roses, not carnations. 367 00:16:22,242 --> 00:16:23,882 She went around asking all the instructors 368 00:16:23,906 --> 00:16:26,594 if they were expecting flowers, and everyone said no, 369 00:16:26,637 --> 00:16:28,074 so she tossed them in the trash 370 00:16:28,117 --> 00:16:29,437 and that's the last I heard of it. 371 00:16:29,461 --> 00:16:31,468 Could you describe the guy? 372 00:16:31,512 --> 00:16:34,776 He was pretty far away but, um, white, 373 00:16:34,819 --> 00:16:36,430 tall, average build. 374 00:16:36,473 --> 00:16:37,953 Was he driving a car? 375 00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:40,738 I'm not sure, but after he dropped the flowers 376 00:16:40,782 --> 00:16:43,654 I heard a motorcycle start up around the corner. 377 00:17:26,610 --> 00:17:27,959 Jenna. 378 00:17:29,222 --> 00:17:32,138 Jenna. 379 00:17:32,181 --> 00:17:35,837 If you have a message for Melinda, 380 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,100 you can tell me. 381 00:18:22,927 --> 00:18:25,365 We've checked with as many friends and relatives 382 00:18:25,408 --> 00:18:27,584 of the former victims as we can find 383 00:18:27,628 --> 00:18:30,065 asking about mysterious flower deliveries 384 00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:31,762 prior to the murders. 385 00:18:31,806 --> 00:18:34,330 Debra Carpenter's mother said she thinks maybe carnations 386 00:18:34,374 --> 00:18:35,694 were dropped off to Debra's office 387 00:18:35,723 --> 00:18:37,420 about a month before the murders. 388 00:18:37,464 --> 00:18:38,639 But, I mean, without card 389 00:18:38,682 --> 00:18:39,964 they just assumed it was a mistake. 390 00:18:39,988 --> 00:18:41,531 Everyone else says they didn't know anything 391 00:18:41,555 --> 00:18:43,165 about any flowers, or they've forgotten. 392 00:18:43,209 --> 00:18:44,649 That's a lead I'd have followed up on 393 00:18:44,673 --> 00:18:46,588 like a bloodhound... Nobody ever mentioned that. 394 00:18:46,632 --> 00:18:48,301 Well, no one realized it was important. 395 00:18:48,344 --> 00:18:50,041 I mean, Shelly Edwards only mentioned it 396 00:18:50,085 --> 00:18:51,845 because she thought the flowers were delivered by Clay Rollins. 397 00:18:51,869 --> 00:18:54,394 And with no card, it's possible the other two victims 398 00:18:54,437 --> 00:18:55,960 didn't get flowers. For the killer, 399 00:18:56,004 --> 00:18:58,180 it's just about the ritual of leaving them. 400 00:18:58,224 --> 00:18:59,573 It's all about the game. 401 00:18:59,616 --> 00:19:01,836 - Why pink carnations? - I did a little research. 402 00:19:01,879 --> 00:19:04,404 Apparently, they are symbolic of a woman's love. 403 00:19:04,447 --> 00:19:07,146 Maybe, but women don't like 'em. I mean... 404 00:19:07,962 --> 00:19:09,602 Well, they mean something to the killer. 405 00:19:09,626 --> 00:19:11,933 He delivered flowers to Shelly Edwards at work, 406 00:19:11,976 --> 00:19:14,414 and Jim Edwards had a carnation petal in his hand. 407 00:19:14,457 --> 00:19:16,137 He's bringing flowers to the murder scene 408 00:19:16,161 --> 00:19:18,244 and taking them with him when he goes. 409 00:19:18,287 --> 00:19:19,767 Okay, listen, I suggest 410 00:19:19,810 --> 00:19:21,410 we release this information to the press. 411 00:19:21,434 --> 00:19:24,511 We've gotta set up a tip line for any random flower drops. 412 00:19:24,554 --> 00:19:27,905 Okay, I'll work on it. Good work, guys. 413 00:19:27,949 --> 00:19:29,733 I stayed on the road for another hour 414 00:19:29,777 --> 00:19:31,909 trying to talk to Jenna, but she couldn't hear me. 415 00:19:31,953 --> 00:19:34,042 The accident just kept happening. 416 00:19:34,085 --> 00:19:37,263 Over and over. 417 00:19:37,306 --> 00:19:40,179 It's like she's caught in... 418 00:19:40,222 --> 00:19:43,443 some kind of death echo. 419 00:19:43,486 --> 00:19:45,445 Is that like a technical term? 420 00:19:45,488 --> 00:19:48,404 No, I just made it up. 421 00:19:48,448 --> 00:19:50,667 But that's what it feels like. 422 00:19:50,711 --> 00:19:53,104 She's... 423 00:19:53,148 --> 00:19:55,890 she's stuck. 424 00:19:55,933 --> 00:19:58,066 There was this kid at my old high school... 425 00:19:58,109 --> 00:20:00,242 Craig Heslerhe died of a brain aneurysm 426 00:20:00,286 --> 00:20:01,504 when we were 14. 427 00:20:01,548 --> 00:20:03,463 Did you know him? 428 00:20:03,506 --> 00:20:06,727 Not when he was alive, but after... 429 00:20:06,770 --> 00:20:09,120 I would see him at school. 430 00:20:09,164 --> 00:20:11,384 He'd be wandering the halls 431 00:20:11,427 --> 00:20:13,647 and hiding in dark corners 432 00:20:13,690 --> 00:20:17,216 just clutching his head and screaming... 433 00:20:17,259 --> 00:20:19,522 like he was still feeling the pain 434 00:20:19,566 --> 00:20:21,481 of the moment when he died. 435 00:20:21,524 --> 00:20:24,048 What happened to him? 436 00:20:24,092 --> 00:20:26,137 I don't know. 437 00:20:26,181 --> 00:20:29,793 Kinda quit going to school, if you remember. 438 00:20:30,316 --> 00:20:32,187 Too well. 439 00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:33,667 There were a lot of reasons 440 00:20:33,710 --> 00:20:35,070 that I couldn't handle high school, 441 00:20:35,094 --> 00:20:37,148 but one of the big ones was that Craig Hesler 442 00:20:37,192 --> 00:20:39,716 scared the crap out of me. 443 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,199 I wanted to help him but I didn't know how... 444 00:20:44,243 --> 00:20:47,028 so I walked away. 445 00:20:47,071 --> 00:20:51,206 And I don't want to do that with Jenna. 446 00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:53,687 Okay. 447 00:20:53,730 --> 00:20:56,472 Well, let's talk about what's holding her back. 448 00:20:56,516 --> 00:20:58,779 Could be the trauma from the accident. 449 00:20:58,822 --> 00:21:01,695 Maybe something about Melinda. 450 00:21:03,174 --> 00:21:07,266 When I first saw the crash, Melinda had grabbed my arm... 451 00:21:08,528 --> 00:21:10,443 And she still wears the engagement ring, 452 00:21:10,486 --> 00:21:13,533 and it's like it carries a lot of... 453 00:21:13,576 --> 00:21:15,448 I don't know, energy. 454 00:21:15,491 --> 00:21:17,276 I could feel it. 455 00:21:19,582 --> 00:21:23,194 The ring is a symbol of their love. 456 00:21:23,238 --> 00:21:24,718 When Jenna was alive, 457 00:21:24,761 --> 00:21:28,330 the bond they shared made them strong. 458 00:21:28,374 --> 00:21:30,593 But now... 459 00:21:31,768 --> 00:21:34,162 Now it's like a weight. 460 00:21:38,906 --> 00:21:40,951 I just got off the phone with the mayor. 461 00:21:40,995 --> 00:21:42,779 His office is releasing a statement 462 00:21:42,823 --> 00:21:44,143 about the carnations to the press. 463 00:21:44,167 --> 00:21:46,261 Excellent, hopefully we'll get a hit. 464 00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:48,545 - Whoa, where you guys going? - We got a lead on Shelly's 465 00:21:48,569 --> 00:21:50,047 mysterious Thursday appointment. 466 00:21:50,091 --> 00:21:52,789 The acronym, NWSGcell calls she made on Thursday evenings 467 00:21:52,833 --> 00:21:54,443 ping a tower in Crown Hill. 468 00:21:54,487 --> 00:21:55,923 When we checked her credit cards, 469 00:21:55,966 --> 00:21:57,926 we found a $40 charge every fifth Thursday evening 470 00:21:57,968 --> 00:21:59,840 to the DiSavino Bake Shop in Crown Hill. 471 00:21:59,883 --> 00:22:01,972 It goes back six months, 472 00:22:02,016 --> 00:22:05,149 same time that NWSG started appearing in her calendar. 473 00:22:06,412 --> 00:22:09,240 Headed to the bakery to check it out. 474 00:22:13,810 --> 00:22:15,769 Sorry, we're closed. 475 00:22:15,812 --> 00:22:17,901 We just need a minute. 476 00:22:17,945 --> 00:22:19,773 Have you seen this woman? 477 00:22:19,816 --> 00:22:22,776 Yeah, she was in here a few times. 478 00:22:22,819 --> 00:22:24,499 We're trying to work out what she was doing 479 00:22:24,523 --> 00:22:26,177 in the neighborhood on Thursday nights. 480 00:22:26,220 --> 00:22:27,737 Well, I can't say for sure, 481 00:22:27,781 --> 00:22:29,421 but the community center across the street 482 00:22:29,445 --> 00:22:31,698 offers classes and meetings during the week, 483 00:22:31,741 --> 00:22:34,788 and sometimes people stop in before to pick up snacks. 484 00:22:34,831 --> 00:22:36,659 Okay, we'll check it out. 485 00:22:36,703 --> 00:22:39,662 Ask for Lyla James. She runs the place. 486 00:22:39,706 --> 00:22:43,231 Thank you, you've been very helpful. 487 00:22:51,718 --> 00:22:54,547 - Can I help you? - Lyla James? 488 00:22:54,590 --> 00:22:56,113 The coordinator for the center? 489 00:22:56,157 --> 00:22:57,941 That's right. 490 00:22:57,985 --> 00:23:00,335 Do you recognize this woman? 491 00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:01,684 Seen her on the news. 492 00:23:01,728 --> 00:23:03,688 That's the woman who was killed on Saturday night. 493 00:23:03,730 --> 00:23:06,515 Shelly Edwards. Has she been here? 494 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:08,996 We were at the DiSavino Bakery next door. 495 00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:11,119 They told us Shelly picked up a box of pastries there 496 00:23:11,143 --> 00:23:12,434 every few weeks. 497 00:23:12,478 --> 00:23:13,678 Apparently that's not uncommon 498 00:23:13,722 --> 00:23:15,158 for people attending meetings here. 499 00:23:15,201 --> 00:23:17,265 Yes, anonymous meetings. 500 00:23:17,308 --> 00:23:21,008 We'll try to keep anything you tell us confidential. 501 00:23:21,051 --> 00:23:23,184 It's terrible what happened to Shelly, 502 00:23:23,227 --> 00:23:26,230 but it's my responsibility to protect the privacy 503 00:23:26,274 --> 00:23:28,276 of the people who come here seeking help. 504 00:23:28,319 --> 00:23:29,451 Even if they're dead? 505 00:23:29,495 --> 00:23:31,061 Even then. 506 00:23:31,105 --> 00:23:35,370 It's not just Shelly's privacy, it's everyone else's, too. 507 00:23:35,414 --> 00:23:38,155 I'm really sorry. 508 00:23:38,199 --> 00:23:40,419 Thank you. 509 00:23:43,117 --> 00:23:44,945 "Newlywed Women's Support Group." 510 00:23:44,988 --> 00:23:46,816 I entered the address of the community center, 511 00:23:46,860 --> 00:23:49,863 and a Thursday meeting time along with the acronym NWSG, 512 00:23:49,906 --> 00:23:51,386 and that's what came up. 513 00:23:53,083 --> 00:23:54,911 Newlyweds need support for what? 514 00:23:54,955 --> 00:23:56,435 According to the club's description, 515 00:23:56,459 --> 00:23:58,698 it's for modern women who are having trouble adjusting 516 00:23:58,741 --> 00:24:00,047 to the demands and difficulties 517 00:24:00,090 --> 00:24:01,831 of building a life with a new partner. 518 00:24:01,875 --> 00:24:05,400 Mutual decision-making, shared spaces, 519 00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,402 compromises, sacrifices... 520 00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:08,534 Marriage. 521 00:24:08,577 --> 00:24:10,144 Clay said Shelly wasn't happy. 522 00:24:10,187 --> 00:24:12,886 Marriage was more complicated than she thought it'd be. 523 00:24:12,929 --> 00:24:15,628 Are any of our other female victims members? 524 00:24:15,671 --> 00:24:17,238 Both Lucy Aquila and Debra Carpenter 525 00:24:17,281 --> 00:24:19,041 were in couples' therapy with their husbands. 526 00:24:19,065 --> 00:24:21,285 I followed up the lead at the time, it went nowhere. 527 00:24:21,329 --> 00:24:23,287 Could it be that those wives were in that group? 528 00:24:23,331 --> 00:24:25,551 But the only way to be sure is to get a complete list 529 00:24:25,594 --> 00:24:26,900 of former and current members. 530 00:24:26,943 --> 00:24:28,783 But the center won't release that information 531 00:24:28,807 --> 00:24:31,600 without a warrant, and a judge won't issue a warrant 532 00:24:31,644 --> 00:24:33,124 without a direct and immediate threat. 533 00:24:33,167 --> 00:24:35,087 Let me tell you from experience, lots of people 534 00:24:35,125 --> 00:24:36,805 don't even sign in to those meetings at all 535 00:24:36,848 --> 00:24:38,048 or don't use their real names. 536 00:24:38,072 --> 00:24:39,521 That's what the "anonymous" is about. 537 00:24:39,565 --> 00:24:41,436 It's, a protection. 538 00:24:42,393 --> 00:24:43,830 Our killer knows that. 539 00:24:43,873 --> 00:24:46,746 If everyone's anonymous, we can't connect the victims. 540 00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:49,009 Perfect hunting ground. 541 00:24:56,233 --> 00:24:58,671 You know I'll help if I can, but I haven't seen anything 542 00:24:58,714 --> 00:24:59,759 since the name Ashley. 543 00:24:59,802 --> 00:25:01,369 Yes, I know, and you'll always call 544 00:25:01,412 --> 00:25:02,979 when you have something. 545 00:25:03,023 --> 00:25:05,982 It's just, we think our four female victims 546 00:25:06,026 --> 00:25:07,466 all belong to the same support group. 547 00:25:07,490 --> 00:25:11,335 We can't prove it, and... And I guess I was just hoping. 548 00:25:11,379 --> 00:25:14,513 I was just hoping... 549 00:25:14,556 --> 00:25:17,559 Can I get you a cup of tea? 550 00:25:17,603 --> 00:25:19,343 Yes, please. 551 00:25:22,346 --> 00:25:23,870 You're a good daughter. 552 00:26:06,608 --> 00:26:09,176 Tom? 553 00:26:11,395 --> 00:26:13,155 Did she tell you where the ticket was issued? 554 00:26:13,179 --> 00:26:14,834 No, just said it was a parking infraction. 555 00:26:14,877 --> 00:26:16,487 It could be by the Edwards' house 556 00:26:16,531 --> 00:26:18,577 - or the community center. - Yeah. 557 00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:20,230 Well, let's get the team on it. 558 00:26:20,274 --> 00:26:22,406 Yeah. 559 00:26:24,017 --> 00:26:26,236 - Thanks for coming over. - Thanks for reaching out. 560 00:26:28,717 --> 00:26:31,241 Did you... see Jenna? 561 00:26:31,285 --> 00:26:34,070 Did you... talk to her? 562 00:26:35,942 --> 00:26:38,814 I did see her, yes. 563 00:26:38,858 --> 00:26:42,252 And the thing is, you're right. 564 00:26:42,296 --> 00:26:43,645 She's still here. 565 00:26:43,689 --> 00:26:46,779 It's just not in the way that you think. 566 00:26:48,302 --> 00:26:50,130 There's nothing romantic 567 00:26:50,173 --> 00:26:53,263 about what she's going through. 568 00:26:53,307 --> 00:26:56,919 She's not a guardian angel watching over you. 569 00:26:56,963 --> 00:26:59,574 She's not trying to get you that message of love. 570 00:26:59,618 --> 00:27:02,272 She's caught. 571 00:27:03,926 --> 00:27:06,668 I don't understand. 572 00:27:06,712 --> 00:27:10,106 For the last two years... 573 00:27:10,150 --> 00:27:12,456 you haven't wanted to face the fact 574 00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:14,763 that she's gone. 575 00:27:14,807 --> 00:27:18,288 You want her back so much... 576 00:27:18,332 --> 00:27:21,770 and you keep putting all of that energy out there, 577 00:27:21,814 --> 00:27:24,338 and it's like she's... 578 00:27:24,381 --> 00:27:25,948 she's driving toward it 579 00:27:25,992 --> 00:27:28,951 even though she can't get to you. 580 00:27:28,995 --> 00:27:31,780 She will never get to you. 581 00:27:33,956 --> 00:27:36,306 Is she in pain? 582 00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:40,702 I don't think it's pain like we feel, but... 583 00:27:40,746 --> 00:27:43,705 she isn't at peace. 584 00:27:48,362 --> 00:27:50,190 I think the only way for this to end 585 00:27:50,233 --> 00:27:53,976 is for one of you to walk away... 586 00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:56,457 and Jenna can't, so it has to be you. 587 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,853 How? 588 00:28:00,896 --> 00:28:05,684 I think maybe you should take your ring off. 589 00:28:07,250 --> 00:28:10,514 It's like it's connecting you both in a way that... 590 00:28:10,558 --> 00:28:14,170 it's not healthy anymore. 591 00:28:17,086 --> 00:28:19,610 And you're sure about all of this? 592 00:28:21,787 --> 00:28:24,354 I'm sure about what I saw... 593 00:28:24,398 --> 00:28:27,270 but I'm not always sure about what it means. 594 00:28:28,881 --> 00:28:30,186 You asked for my help, 595 00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:33,407 and I know you wanted a message from Jenna... 596 00:28:33,450 --> 00:28:36,715 something you can think of as closure. 597 00:28:36,758 --> 00:28:39,239 I'm sorry I can't give you that. 598 00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:42,721 When I was wearing this ring, 599 00:28:42,764 --> 00:28:45,158 I felt like Jenna was still with me. 600 00:28:45,201 --> 00:28:46,855 Yeah. 601 00:28:46,899 --> 00:28:51,207 I guess it's time to do it on my own. 602 00:29:02,523 --> 00:29:05,613 How will you know it worked? 603 00:29:07,484 --> 00:29:11,445 If you want, I can go back and check. 604 00:29:11,488 --> 00:29:13,752 What if she's still there? 605 00:29:15,536 --> 00:29:18,800 Then I'll keep trying. 606 00:29:18,844 --> 00:29:21,803 Thank you. 607 00:29:30,812 --> 00:29:32,252 Yeah, that's perfect. Thanks again. 608 00:29:32,276 --> 00:29:33,249 Bye. 609 00:29:33,293 --> 00:29:34,773 Hey, I think I got it. 610 00:29:34,816 --> 00:29:36,731 A parking ticket was issued to a motorcycle 611 00:29:36,775 --> 00:29:38,820 parked in the alley behind Shelly's fitness studio 612 00:29:38,864 --> 00:29:40,039 two weeks ago. 613 00:29:40,082 --> 00:29:41,762 That's when the flowers were dropped off. 614 00:29:41,786 --> 00:29:44,043 Yeah, and get this: Wade Modell works 615 00:29:44,086 --> 00:29:45,392 at the Kenmore Flower Market. 616 00:29:45,435 --> 00:29:48,134 He did ten months on an assault charge in 2016 617 00:29:48,177 --> 00:29:50,440 and he owns a .22. 618 00:29:50,484 --> 00:29:52,791 Very good. 619 00:29:59,710 --> 00:30:02,104 Landlady says Modell isn't home. 620 00:30:02,148 --> 00:30:04,193 Usually gets in around 7:00 p.m. 621 00:30:04,237 --> 00:30:06,413 - What is that? - It's my dinner. 622 00:30:06,456 --> 00:30:08,937 Not in the car, thank you. 623 00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:12,723 It's Modell. 624 00:30:15,335 --> 00:30:17,990 Stop, police! 625 00:30:19,469 --> 00:30:21,863 Stop! 626 00:30:39,402 --> 00:30:42,318 Wade Modell, you're under arrest. 627 00:30:42,362 --> 00:30:45,017 You have the right to remain silent. 628 00:30:47,062 --> 00:30:49,238 Do you know her? 629 00:30:49,282 --> 00:30:51,066 Never seen her before. 630 00:30:52,198 --> 00:30:53,808 Are you sure about that? 631 00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:57,116 So you don't know them either? 632 00:30:57,159 --> 00:30:59,466 What the hell is this? 633 00:31:00,206 --> 00:31:03,209 It's a murder case, Wade. Serial murder. 634 00:31:03,252 --> 00:31:04,732 II didn't kill anybody. 635 00:31:04,775 --> 00:31:05,883 You delivered flowers to Shelly Edwards 636 00:31:05,907 --> 00:31:07,517 two weeks before she was murdered. 637 00:31:07,561 --> 00:31:09,041 You mean at the gym? 638 00:31:09,084 --> 00:31:11,739 I was just doing her a favor. Doing Shelly a favor? 639 00:31:11,782 --> 00:31:14,002 No, the other lady. 640 00:31:17,832 --> 00:31:19,225 Take us through it, Wade. 641 00:31:19,268 --> 00:31:21,140 Slowly. 642 00:31:21,183 --> 00:31:24,012 This girl comes up to the stand where I work, 643 00:31:24,056 --> 00:31:26,972 and she buys a big bouquet of pink carnations. 644 00:31:27,015 --> 00:31:29,415 Said she wanted to get them to her friend but she had to run. 645 00:31:29,439 --> 00:31:31,759 Gave me 20 bucks to take them into the city for her 646 00:31:31,802 --> 00:31:34,109 on my bike. What did she look like? 647 00:31:36,459 --> 00:31:39,114 She was a redhead. 648 00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:43,379 Unis say that no one is home at Lyla James' place. 649 00:31:43,423 --> 00:31:44,598 They're gonna wait. 650 00:31:44,641 --> 00:31:45,923 There is another car checking the center. 651 00:31:45,947 --> 00:31:47,787 You're sure about this? The killer's a woman? 652 00:31:47,811 --> 00:31:48,689 Absolutely. 653 00:31:48,732 --> 00:31:50,014 The support group, the pink carnations? 654 00:31:50,038 --> 00:31:51,407 Lyla's the only thing linking them together. 655 00:31:51,431 --> 00:31:52,606 And there were signs. 656 00:31:52,649 --> 00:31:54,738 No sexual assault on the female victims, 657 00:31:54,782 --> 00:31:55,914 the small caliber hand gun, 658 00:31:55,957 --> 00:31:58,090 the fact that every woman opened the door. 659 00:31:58,133 --> 00:31:59,526 They trusted her. 660 00:31:59,569 --> 00:32:02,442 She's that nice woman that works at the center. 661 00:32:02,485 --> 00:32:04,966 Lyla James was engaged in 2014, 662 00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:07,316 but her fiancé broke it off the day of the wedding. 663 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,752 The theme was pink carnations. 664 00:32:08,796 --> 00:32:11,059 They put an order in at every shop in the city. 665 00:32:11,103 --> 00:32:13,279 Eight months later, Lyla's groom eloped 666 00:32:13,322 --> 00:32:14,628 with their wedding planner. 667 00:32:14,671 --> 00:32:16,586 This weekend was their anniversary... 668 00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:18,371 Ashley and Joni Bennett. 669 00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:22,418 - Ashley's a guy. - When he got married 670 00:32:22,462 --> 00:32:23,787 to someone else, that's when Lyla snapped. 671 00:32:23,811 --> 00:32:25,378 Lyla's parents say she was devastated. 672 00:32:25,421 --> 00:32:26,466 She's been in and out 673 00:32:26,509 --> 00:32:28,294 of psychiatric hospitals ever since. 674 00:32:28,337 --> 00:32:29,295 They thought she was getting better. 675 00:32:29,338 --> 00:32:30,731 They were very mistaken. 676 00:32:30,774 --> 00:32:32,734 Lyla didn't show up for her shift at the center. 677 00:32:32,758 --> 00:32:34,778 No one's seen her for 24 hours. She's on the run. 678 00:32:34,822 --> 00:32:36,780 We've put out a BOLO, she won't get far. 679 00:32:36,824 --> 00:32:38,434 Question is, what's her next move? 680 00:32:38,478 --> 00:32:40,718 Lyla's been murdering proxies for the last three years. 681 00:32:40,742 --> 00:32:42,786 The newlywed victims were just stand-ins 682 00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:43,962 for Ashley and his wife. 683 00:32:44,005 --> 00:32:45,528 Why didn't she kill them first? 684 00:32:45,572 --> 00:32:47,966 In Lyla's mind, what she feels for Ashley is true love. 685 00:32:48,009 --> 00:32:50,533 Maybe she was hoping he'd come back for her. 686 00:32:50,577 --> 00:32:52,144 Well, that dream is over. 687 00:32:52,187 --> 00:32:54,107 You think she'd be going after the Bennetts next? 688 00:32:54,131 --> 00:32:56,975 - It's a possibility. - It's a distinct possibility. 689 00:32:57,018 --> 00:33:00,804 We need to get them into protective custody, now. 690 00:33:32,227 --> 00:33:33,837 Surprise. 691 00:33:52,769 --> 00:33:56,338 Yeah, yeah, I got it. But listen, are you okay? 692 00:33:57,861 --> 00:34:00,690 All right, appreciate the call. 693 00:34:00,734 --> 00:34:02,301 Cassie? 694 00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:05,391 Redheaded woman just tried to drown her in her own bathtub. 695 00:34:05,434 --> 00:34:07,262 Lyla's already at the house. 696 00:34:27,804 --> 00:34:28,936 Look at him. 697 00:34:28,979 --> 00:34:30,285 I said, look at him! 698 00:34:30,329 --> 00:34:32,809 He's dying, and it's your fault. 699 00:34:32,853 --> 00:34:35,595 You made me do this, both of you. 700 00:34:35,638 --> 00:34:38,511 All these years he should have been with me. 701 00:34:38,554 --> 00:34:41,427 He needed me, but you tricked him! 702 00:34:41,470 --> 00:34:43,429 Stole him from me! 703 00:34:43,472 --> 00:34:45,953 You made him believe our love didn't matter, 704 00:34:45,996 --> 00:34:48,608 but it's everything to us. 705 00:34:48,651 --> 00:34:50,958 You still love me, Ashley, don't you? 706 00:34:51,001 --> 00:34:53,482 Even now. 707 00:34:53,526 --> 00:34:55,136 You know we would have been happy forever 708 00:34:55,180 --> 00:34:57,399 if this bitch hadn't ruined it. 709 00:34:57,443 --> 00:35:00,794 But don't worry, she's gonna pay. 710 00:35:00,837 --> 00:35:02,230 Say good-bye. 711 00:35:02,274 --> 00:35:03,840 Let's go, your turn. 712 00:35:03,884 --> 00:35:05,146 Lyla! 713 00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:07,714 Drop your weapon or I'll kill her. 714 00:35:07,757 --> 00:35:10,020 Do it or she's dead! 715 00:35:19,856 --> 00:35:22,468 That's quite a scam you had there, Lyla. 716 00:35:22,511 --> 00:35:25,514 Start a club for unhappy newlywed brides, 717 00:35:25,558 --> 00:35:28,735 pick them off one by one. 718 00:35:28,778 --> 00:35:31,259 They were like lambs to the slaughter, weren't they? 719 00:35:35,350 --> 00:35:38,397 I didn't think anyone would even sign up. 720 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,139 Who doesn't want to be married? 721 00:35:41,182 --> 00:35:43,141 But I had more than I could handle. 722 00:35:43,184 --> 00:35:45,447 This one? 723 00:35:45,491 --> 00:35:47,754 She didn't want to be married either. 724 00:35:47,797 --> 00:35:50,496 She joked about it with me while we were sampling cakes 725 00:35:50,539 --> 00:35:52,150 for my wedding. 726 00:35:52,193 --> 00:35:53,629 Eight months later, 727 00:35:53,673 --> 00:35:56,415 I hear Ashley had to talk her into eloping. 728 00:35:56,458 --> 00:35:59,157 Had to get down on both knees and beg. 729 00:36:01,333 --> 00:36:04,466 Why do men want women who don't want them? 730 00:36:06,251 --> 00:36:07,687 I don't know. 731 00:36:07,730 --> 00:36:11,517 I would ask them that, the women... 732 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,650 while the tub was filling and their men were dying... 733 00:36:14,694 --> 00:36:17,566 and they didn't know either. 734 00:36:17,610 --> 00:36:20,569 They were so sorry. 735 00:36:20,613 --> 00:36:23,485 "Do you love him now?" I would ask. 736 00:36:23,529 --> 00:36:25,357 "Do you wish you had another chance 737 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,056 to show him just how much he means to you?" 738 00:36:29,099 --> 00:36:31,014 You know what they said? 739 00:36:31,058 --> 00:36:33,626 All of them? 740 00:36:33,669 --> 00:36:35,280 "I do." 741 00:36:35,323 --> 00:36:36,890 Lyla, no! 742 00:36:38,457 --> 00:36:40,807 Don't move. 743 00:36:55,474 --> 00:36:57,040 Thanks for coming with me. 744 00:36:57,084 --> 00:36:59,086 My pleasure. 745 00:37:15,450 --> 00:37:17,800 I think she's gone. 746 00:37:21,804 --> 00:37:23,153 It worked. 747 00:37:25,852 --> 00:37:27,810 I couldn't have done it without you. 748 00:37:27,854 --> 00:37:30,683 Well, I'm not so sure about that. 749 00:37:34,817 --> 00:37:38,343 This is gonna sound so selfish, but... 750 00:37:38,386 --> 00:37:40,823 I need you to be okay. 751 00:37:42,738 --> 00:37:46,568 I can't have anything happen to you. 752 00:37:46,612 --> 00:37:49,005 Where is this coming from? 753 00:37:49,049 --> 00:37:52,618 Lately, you've been forgetting things, 754 00:37:52,661 --> 00:37:55,751 and when you say you remember I think you're lying. 755 00:37:57,884 --> 00:38:00,800 I'm scared... 756 00:38:00,843 --> 00:38:03,585 and I need you to get checked out. 757 00:38:03,629 --> 00:38:07,154 You know, doctors make the worst patients. 758 00:38:08,155 --> 00:38:09,983 Please? 759 00:38:17,730 --> 00:38:20,472 Okay. 760 00:38:20,515 --> 00:38:22,778 - I will. - Okay. 761 00:38:22,822 --> 00:38:24,519 I promise. 762 00:38:29,373 --> 00:38:30,893 That was County Medical on the phone. 763 00:38:30,917 --> 00:38:34,094 It was touch and go, but Ashley Bennett's gonna live. 764 00:38:34,137 --> 00:38:37,184 So that's eight counts of first-degree murder 765 00:38:37,227 --> 00:38:38,359 for Lyla instead of nine. 766 00:38:38,403 --> 00:38:39,882 Still enough for life in prison. 767 00:38:39,926 --> 00:38:42,276 Well, Lyla's parents have hired an attorney 768 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,974 and he's already making noise about an insanity defense. 769 00:38:45,018 --> 00:38:47,368 I predict she'll go down swinging. 770 00:38:47,412 --> 00:38:50,023 At least she's going down. 771 00:38:56,899 --> 00:38:59,293 Melinda, I was gonna call you in the morning. 772 00:38:59,337 --> 00:39:01,687 That's okay, I already know. 773 00:39:01,730 --> 00:39:05,081 Yeah? 774 00:39:05,125 --> 00:39:07,475 She's free. 775 00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:10,696 I can feel it. 776 00:39:10,739 --> 00:39:13,394 Thank you so much. 777 00:39:15,831 --> 00:39:18,356 And I meant what I said about catching up. 778 00:39:18,399 --> 00:39:19,705 I miss you. 779 00:39:19,748 --> 00:39:22,011 I could really use a friend right now. 780 00:39:22,055 --> 00:39:24,274 Me, too. 781 00:39:24,318 --> 00:39:26,407 - I'll call you. - Yeah. 782 00:39:26,451 --> 00:39:29,758 Bye. 783 00:39:32,892 --> 00:39:35,895 Still got an empty glass. 784 00:39:38,593 --> 00:39:41,422 - Top it off. - Yep. 785 00:39:41,466 --> 00:39:43,293 Hey, another one? 786 00:39:43,337 --> 00:39:46,732 Yeah, sure. 787 00:39:46,775 --> 00:39:48,516 You seem a little down 788 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,692 for a guy who just caught a serial killer. 789 00:39:50,736 --> 00:39:54,609 No, I'mno, it's just... 790 00:39:54,653 --> 00:39:56,437 I bought into some easy assumptions 791 00:39:56,481 --> 00:39:59,135 thinking it had to be a guy. 792 00:39:59,962 --> 00:40:01,882 Could have cost the investigation months of time. 793 00:40:01,925 --> 00:40:03,753 Another couple could have lost their lives. 794 00:40:03,797 --> 00:40:06,142 Yeah, but they didn't. 795 00:40:06,186 --> 00:40:07,405 I'm starting to think 796 00:40:07,448 --> 00:40:09,885 that you and I aren't that different 797 00:40:09,929 --> 00:40:11,452 in terms of what we do. 798 00:40:11,496 --> 00:40:13,628 Hey, can I get another? 799 00:40:13,672 --> 00:40:17,110 The information comes in, and we decipher it. 800 00:40:17,153 --> 00:40:18,981 We interpret it. 801 00:40:19,025 --> 00:40:22,289 We see if it fits this puzzle that we're putting together. 802 00:40:24,204 --> 00:40:26,728 We do the best we can. 803 00:40:28,426 --> 00:40:29,514 Here. 804 00:40:29,557 --> 00:40:32,125 Thank you. 805 00:40:52,362 --> 00:40:54,147 Jenna? 806 00:40:55,191 --> 00:40:57,803 I just wanted to say thank you. 807 00:40:59,152 --> 00:41:01,981 And I want to see one last sunrise before I go. 808 00:41:10,511 --> 00:41:13,035 You're all right. 809 00:41:14,907 --> 00:41:17,997 I'm glad I could help. 810 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,696 Do me a favor and don't tell Melinda you saw me. 811 00:41:21,740 --> 00:41:24,351 Are you sure? 812 00:41:24,394 --> 00:41:27,267 It's better this way. 813 00:41:27,310 --> 00:41:29,704 Melinda told me about you. 814 00:41:29,748 --> 00:41:31,793 Her best friend from high school. 815 00:41:31,837 --> 00:41:34,622 She said you could see ghosts and scary things 816 00:41:34,666 --> 00:41:36,842 that weren't there. 817 00:41:36,885 --> 00:41:39,409 And I remember thinking... 818 00:41:39,453 --> 00:41:41,934 "That must suck." 819 00:41:43,588 --> 00:41:45,415 Sometimes. 820 00:41:47,592 --> 00:41:51,421 But not today. 59270

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