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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:04:10,984 --> 00:04:14,258 - And how did it happen? - Beat me up. 2 00:04:14,362 --> 00:04:18,908 They made me stand against the wall, like this with me arms outstretched... 3 00:04:19,034 --> 00:04:21,036 and my legs stretched out behind me. 4 00:04:22,954 --> 00:04:26,708 Kept me like this for ages, for over 30 hours or somethin' like that. 5 00:04:27,292 --> 00:04:30,483 And if I tried to relax or lower me arms, they hit me. 6 00:04:30,587 --> 00:04:32,964 And then they gave me the crab treatment. 7 00:04:33,340 --> 00:04:35,321 Were you arrested on Section 12? 8 00:04:35,425 --> 00:04:37,719 - Yeah. - Okay. Good. 9 00:04:38,345 --> 00:04:39,888 Do you have any idea why? 10 00:04:40,555 --> 00:04:44,935 Sort of like most of me mates were accused of belongin' to the IRA. 11 00:04:45,685 --> 00:04:48,104 Which he wasn't. That's why they let him go. 12 00:04:48,229 --> 00:04:51,316 Could you demonstrate this crab treatment to us? 13 00:04:51,524 --> 00:04:52,609 Yeah. 14 00:05:07,415 --> 00:05:09,542 One of them grabbed me... 15 00:05:10,543 --> 00:05:12,879 you know, with me arms back here... 16 00:05:13,463 --> 00:05:16,028 while his mate punched me in the stomach. 17 00:05:16,132 --> 00:05:17,696 He just punched me and punched me. 18 00:05:17,801 --> 00:05:20,637 And the other one kept askin' me questions... 19 00:05:20,971 --> 00:05:23,932 askin' more questions, and they punched me again. 20 00:05:24,224 --> 00:05:25,225 Okay? 21 00:05:25,809 --> 00:05:28,311 - Are you all right? - Yeah. 22 00:05:28,561 --> 00:05:31,773 Jim, why don't you tell them what happened to you? 23 00:05:32,315 --> 00:05:36,111 I was arrested the week before Michael and taken to Castlereagh. 24 00:05:36,486 --> 00:05:39,406 And then they threw me into a cell for about four hours. 25 00:05:39,656 --> 00:05:40,803 They took me out... 26 00:05:40,907 --> 00:05:43,389 brought me up to what they call an interview room. 27 00:05:43,493 --> 00:05:46,183 And two cops were sittin' there with me. 28 00:05:46,288 --> 00:05:49,228 One of the cops asked me my name. I never told him my name... 29 00:05:49,332 --> 00:05:52,752 'cause if they didn't know my name, they wouldn't have arrested me. 30 00:05:53,295 --> 00:05:58,300 At once, as soon as I told him, all four cops came rushin' in the room... 31 00:05:58,550 --> 00:06:01,407 took me off the chair, lifted me by the arms and legs... 32 00:06:01,511 --> 00:06:03,221 and held me over a table. 33 00:06:03,597 --> 00:06:05,765 And one of them put a towel round my face. 34 00:06:06,224 --> 00:06:08,914 He was holding it at the back of my neck here... 35 00:06:09,019 --> 00:06:12,793 and another one poured water over my nose and mouth. 36 00:06:12,897 --> 00:06:15,254 It was goin' up my nose and into my throat... 37 00:06:15,358 --> 00:06:17,027 I was gettin' the drowning feeling. 38 00:06:19,404 --> 00:06:20,447 Sullivan? 39 00:06:57,734 --> 00:06:59,444 Get the bastard! 40 00:07:22,968 --> 00:07:24,844 I don't believe it. 41 00:07:25,387 --> 00:07:28,098 - Tribal rites. - It's frightening. 42 00:07:41,236 --> 00:07:44,844 Can I take you onto the question of the treatment of prisoners... 43 00:07:44,948 --> 00:07:48,681 the question of interrogation techniques referred to in the press release. 44 00:07:48,785 --> 00:07:53,144 It suggests that these allegations of ill-treatment have reduced since 1978. 45 00:07:53,248 --> 00:07:55,604 Can I ask you to comment? Do you have a view... 46 00:07:55,709 --> 00:07:59,692 as to whether these forms of ill-treatment that you found are fair? 47 00:07:59,796 --> 00:08:01,548 What evidence do you have for them? 48 00:08:01,881 --> 00:08:05,990 Not to be too dramatic, but these are all... 49 00:08:06,094 --> 00:08:10,536 statements of alleged maltreatment that we have collected over our time here. 50 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,643 And that one? 51 00:08:13,977 --> 00:08:16,083 "Punching, slapping, kicking the plaintiff. 52 00:08:16,187 --> 00:08:17,168 "Causing, requiring, 53 00:08:17,272 --> 00:08:20,921 permitting the plaintiff to lie on the floor of an interview room. 54 00:08:21,026 --> 00:08:23,174 "Causing, requiring, permitting the plaintiff... 55 00:08:23,278 --> 00:08:25,843 "to remove his coat and shoes in the interview room. 56 00:08:25,947 --> 00:08:28,554 "Punching the plaintiff in the abdominal area. 57 00:08:28,658 --> 00:08:32,141 "Banging the plaintiff's head off the wall of the interview room. 58 00:08:32,245 --> 00:08:35,728 "Standing on the plaintiff's shoulders, stomach, ankles and chest. 59 00:08:35,832 --> 00:08:39,690 "Squeezing the plaintiff's neck. Squeezing the plaintiff's testicles. 60 00:08:39,794 --> 00:08:41,942 "Causing, requiring, permitting the plaintiff... 61 00:08:42,047 --> 00:08:45,675 - "...to be spreadled..." - Spread-eagled. 62 00:08:45,926 --> 00:08:49,804 "Between three members of the Royal Ulster Constabulary... 63 00:08:49,930 --> 00:08:54,663 "while one kicked him with his heel in the area of the abdomen and raped..." 64 00:08:54,768 --> 00:08:56,916 Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 65 00:08:57,020 --> 00:08:58,876 These are unconfirmed allegations, right? 66 00:08:58,980 --> 00:09:01,253 Allegations for which there is no outside evidence. 67 00:09:01,358 --> 00:09:03,318 These are allegations from a group of people. 68 00:09:04,903 --> 00:09:07,322 A great deal of this evidence is corroborated. 69 00:09:07,447 --> 00:09:10,096 Is it a war situation or not? 70 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,265 If it's a war situation, to solve that war situation... 71 00:09:13,370 --> 00:09:17,832 you have to negotiate, and so to accept that there are two sides... 72 00:09:18,458 --> 00:09:21,586 putting around a table to negotiate... 73 00:09:21,795 --> 00:09:24,422 and that, the British government doesn't accept. 74 00:09:24,673 --> 00:09:27,113 Does your report deal with the shoot-to-kill policy... 75 00:09:27,217 --> 00:09:29,323 operatin' here in the six counties? 76 00:09:29,427 --> 00:09:33,598 Allegations of a shoot-to-kill policy carried out by the RUC... 77 00:09:33,890 --> 00:09:38,124 the UDR, and the British Army does form part of our report, yes. 78 00:09:38,228 --> 00:09:42,565 - Do you have any figures? - Yes, in... 79 00:09:43,483 --> 00:09:45,840 the period of 1969 to 1980... 80 00:09:45,944 --> 00:09:48,592 the evidence shows that at least 130 people... 81 00:09:48,697 --> 00:09:53,368 were killed by the security forces, and half of those deaths... 82 00:09:53,577 --> 00:09:56,767 were of civilians that had no connection... 83 00:09:56,871 --> 00:09:58,873 with paramilitary activities at all. 84 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,628 Given the fact that there is a state of armed insurrection in Northern Ireland... 85 00:10:03,878 --> 00:10:06,485 do you not concede the government has every right... 86 00:10:06,590 --> 00:10:09,238 to take whatever measures it deems necessary to... 87 00:10:09,342 --> 00:10:11,052 stem this insurrection? 88 00:10:11,761 --> 00:10:16,349 Britain is recognized the world over as a democratic state. 89 00:10:16,933 --> 00:10:21,771 We will present our report based on the documented evidence. 90 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,067 And hopefully, the British government will respond. 91 00:10:26,276 --> 00:10:27,986 I'm sure they will. 92 00:10:28,987 --> 00:10:31,010 Thank you. That's all we have time for. 93 00:10:31,114 --> 00:10:33,617 We're flying out tomorrow. Thank you. 94 00:10:40,582 --> 00:10:41,562 Hi. 95 00:10:41,666 --> 00:10:44,648 - I'm Teresa Doyle. Republican News. - Excuse me? 96 00:10:44,753 --> 00:10:46,338 Republican News. 97 00:10:47,130 --> 00:10:48,736 You know the shoot-to-kill? 98 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,989 It happens all the time. I could show you a photograph. 99 00:10:52,093 --> 00:10:54,617 - Of what? - Of an execution. 100 00:10:54,721 --> 00:10:56,202 You have that with you? 101 00:10:56,306 --> 00:11:00,372 It's not the sort of thing you carry around the streets of Belfast in your handbag. 102 00:11:00,477 --> 00:11:01,770 But I could get it to you. 103 00:11:02,604 --> 00:11:05,398 I'm sorry. Our investigation's concluded. 104 00:11:05,649 --> 00:11:09,569 - So you're not interested? - No, we're not here to be used. 105 00:11:10,070 --> 00:11:12,614 Maybe that's all you're here for. 106 00:11:27,712 --> 00:11:28,964 Paul? 107 00:11:41,893 --> 00:11:44,729 - Is that the tape from yesterday? - Yeah. 108 00:11:45,605 --> 00:11:47,524 I'm glad we're leaving tomorrow. 109 00:11:48,650 --> 00:11:50,527 Belfast reminds me of Chile. 110 00:11:51,278 --> 00:11:53,759 There's no comparison. How can you say that? 111 00:11:53,863 --> 00:11:55,282 That's the way it feels: 112 00:11:55,865 --> 00:11:58,493 Killings, torture, intrigue. 113 00:12:03,206 --> 00:12:07,294 A reality check: What happened in Chile can't happen here. 114 00:12:09,796 --> 00:12:11,881 - Let's eat. - Yeah. 115 00:12:15,844 --> 00:12:19,014 - You got any money? - Yes, I do. 116 00:12:19,222 --> 00:12:20,515 Good. 117 00:13:20,450 --> 00:13:24,162 So good night. See you tomorrow. Tough day. 118 00:13:27,916 --> 00:13:29,376 Good night. 119 00:13:36,299 --> 00:13:39,261 Can you believe he turned around and waved? 120 00:13:42,847 --> 00:13:46,393 - Do you know him? - I don't know. I thought I did. 121 00:13:48,979 --> 00:13:51,231 - No messages. - Okay, thanks. 122 00:15:03,386 --> 00:15:04,471 Yes. 123 00:15:04,721 --> 00:15:06,056 Harris? 124 00:15:07,307 --> 00:15:11,436 - I listened to your tape. - Have you come to a decision? 125 00:15:12,395 --> 00:15:13,396 I don't know. 126 00:15:13,730 --> 00:15:15,190 We must talk. 127 00:15:16,107 --> 00:15:17,859 They saw us together. 128 00:15:19,069 --> 00:15:22,489 - How do you know? - After I left you, I was followed. 129 00:15:22,697 --> 00:15:24,616 That means you're under surveillance. 130 00:15:25,242 --> 00:15:28,891 I really don't think that this is something that I should get involved in... 131 00:15:28,995 --> 00:15:30,643 but I'll tell you what I can do. 132 00:15:30,747 --> 00:15:33,479 I can turn the tape over to whatever authorities you deem... 133 00:15:33,583 --> 00:15:35,168 No! That would be crazy. 134 00:15:35,543 --> 00:15:37,170 We must meet. 135 00:15:38,171 --> 00:15:41,683 - Where? - Near Dungannon. Now. 136 00:15:41,925 --> 00:15:43,823 It's less than an hour's drive away. 137 00:15:43,927 --> 00:15:46,179 Look, I've got a plane to catch. 138 00:15:47,222 --> 00:15:48,682 This won't take long. 139 00:17:01,504 --> 00:17:03,131 Mr. Sullivan? 140 00:17:05,342 --> 00:17:07,990 - Where's Harris? - He's down the road, waiting on you. 141 00:17:08,094 --> 00:17:09,867 I am here to take you to him. 142 00:17:09,971 --> 00:17:13,141 You can leave your car here. We'll go in mine. 143 00:17:13,350 --> 00:17:15,581 - My car's okay here? - It's quite safe there. 144 00:17:15,685 --> 00:17:17,979 By the way, my name's Frank Molloy. 145 00:17:25,362 --> 00:17:27,739 - Did you bring the tape? - Yeah. 146 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,409 1169. 147 00:17:32,744 --> 00:17:34,037 Sorry? 148 00:17:34,496 --> 00:17:38,625 800 years: That's how long we've been fightin' for independence. 149 00:17:39,209 --> 00:17:40,543 Sword... 150 00:17:40,961 --> 00:17:43,255 famine, burnin'... 151 00:17:43,380 --> 00:17:47,175 hangin', shootin', transportation: We've had it all. 152 00:17:50,262 --> 00:17:51,846 Who's Harris? 153 00:17:52,931 --> 00:17:55,475 It's better he tells you himself. 154 00:17:59,271 --> 00:18:01,356 There's a car behind us. 155 00:18:02,857 --> 00:18:04,234 Is it following us? 156 00:18:05,110 --> 00:18:06,695 We'll soon find out. 157 00:18:07,571 --> 00:18:10,949 There's something wrong here. 158 00:18:11,241 --> 00:18:13,159 Get down! Get down! 159 00:19:21,645 --> 00:19:23,980 - Ms. Ingrid Jessner? - Yes. 160 00:19:24,356 --> 00:19:27,713 I'm afraid we've got some rather serious news for you. 161 00:19:27,817 --> 00:19:30,070 - May we come in? - What is it? 162 00:19:31,238 --> 00:19:33,323 It's about Mr. Sullivan. 163 00:19:33,657 --> 00:19:36,868 He's been involved in a rather serious incident. 164 00:19:38,662 --> 00:19:41,018 They were killed in a car crash early this morning... 165 00:19:41,122 --> 00:19:43,959 which involved a police checkpoint outside Dungannon. 166 00:19:44,167 --> 00:19:46,607 The men, who were driving a yellow Ford Cortina... 167 00:19:46,711 --> 00:19:48,442 were signaled by police to stop. 168 00:19:48,546 --> 00:19:52,780 Ignoring the warning, the car accelerated and drove directly at the officers. 169 00:19:52,884 --> 00:19:56,617 Police opened fire on the vehicle as it attempted to escape. 170 00:19:56,721 --> 00:19:59,912 The car then went out of control and careered off the road. 171 00:20:00,016 --> 00:20:03,833 Upon arrival at the crash scene, police found the occupants were dead. 172 00:20:03,937 --> 00:20:07,023 Names of the two men have not yet been released. 173 00:20:29,838 --> 00:20:33,216 Can you identify the body as that of Paul Sullivan? 174 00:20:55,405 --> 00:20:56,531 Yes. 175 00:21:18,887 --> 00:21:20,221 Ingrid. 176 00:21:23,099 --> 00:21:24,726 Come on. Let's go. 177 00:21:56,049 --> 00:21:58,406 Ms. Jessner, where have you just come from? 178 00:21:58,510 --> 00:22:00,282 Can you move away? 179 00:22:00,387 --> 00:22:03,661 It's said the man in the car with Mr. Sullivan was a terrorist suspect. 180 00:22:03,765 --> 00:22:04,703 Is that true? 181 00:22:04,808 --> 00:22:07,581 - What are you suggesting? - Who was with Mr. Sullivan? 182 00:22:07,686 --> 00:22:10,334 - I have no idea. - Police say he was a terrorist suspect. 183 00:22:10,438 --> 00:22:12,336 Did the car go through a police roadcheck? 184 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,048 They say they opened fire after the car went through a checkpoint? 185 00:22:16,152 --> 00:22:18,384 Where were they going this morning? Did you know? 186 00:22:18,488 --> 00:22:23,159 As journalists, you must appreciate that I can't talk about this right now. 187 00:22:28,790 --> 00:22:31,230 The driver of the car in which the shooting occurred... 188 00:22:31,334 --> 00:22:34,817 has been named as Frank Molloy. Police said the car failed to stop... 189 00:22:34,921 --> 00:22:38,863 at a roadblock outside Dungannon around 6:15 this morning. 190 00:22:38,967 --> 00:22:41,574 An RUC statement said the driver accelerated... 191 00:22:41,678 --> 00:22:44,744 toward their officers, who opened fire on the fleeing car... 192 00:22:44,848 --> 00:22:46,662 causing it to swerve off the road. 193 00:22:46,766 --> 00:22:51,125 Also in the car was Paul Sullivan, an American lawyer and a leading figure... 194 00:22:51,229 --> 00:22:53,669 in the International League for Civil Liberties. 195 00:22:53,773 --> 00:22:55,171 What's puzzling observers... 196 00:22:55,275 --> 00:22:58,007 is why Mr. Sullivan should have driven out of Belfast... 197 00:22:58,111 --> 00:23:01,260 in the early hours of the morning to meet a man... 198 00:23:01,364 --> 00:23:04,013 who the police say is a terrorist suspect. 199 00:23:04,117 --> 00:23:07,329 This is Ivan Little, Ulster Television, Dungannon. 200 00:23:08,830 --> 00:23:10,436 With me in the studio to discuss... 201 00:23:10,540 --> 00:23:13,105 the political implications of today's shooting... 202 00:23:13,209 --> 00:23:14,669 is Mr. Alec Nevin... 203 00:23:15,128 --> 00:23:18,527 who is a Conservative Party spokesman on Northern Ireland. 204 00:23:18,632 --> 00:23:21,238 Mr. Nevin, earlier, we saw pictures of Americans... 205 00:23:21,343 --> 00:23:24,241 demonstrating outside the British embassy in Washington. 206 00:23:24,346 --> 00:23:27,912 Let's make a distinction. What we saw was a demonstration... 207 00:23:28,016 --> 00:23:29,872 by supporters of the IRA... 208 00:23:29,976 --> 00:23:31,123 Could I finish my question? 209 00:23:31,227 --> 00:23:33,292 The people who give comfort and weapons... 210 00:23:33,396 --> 00:23:34,752 to the men of violence. 211 00:23:34,856 --> 00:23:37,171 John Ware, Labour MP. 212 00:23:37,275 --> 00:23:39,757 A particularly embarrassing thing, I would think... 213 00:23:39,861 --> 00:23:44,741 was, of course, the death of this civil-liberties spokesman... 214 00:23:45,033 --> 00:23:47,807 It's quite clear that people will be asking the question: 215 00:23:47,911 --> 00:23:50,893 Does this mean the investigation has hit on a raw nerve... 216 00:23:50,997 --> 00:23:54,063 has revealed some of the things that have been perpetrated... 217 00:23:54,167 --> 00:23:57,254 by security forces due to their presence in Northern Ireland? 218 00:24:00,215 --> 00:24:02,363 Is Ms. Jessner coming down to talk to us today? 219 00:24:02,467 --> 00:24:04,824 - No. She's resting. - How is she? 220 00:24:04,928 --> 00:24:05,908 All right. 221 00:24:06,012 --> 00:24:08,202 Have you been told any more about what happened... 222 00:24:08,306 --> 00:24:10,892 on the morning of the shooting? 223 00:24:11,226 --> 00:24:15,126 The only thing that we know is that Mr. Sullivan has been murdered... 224 00:24:15,230 --> 00:24:17,753 by a member of the security forces... 225 00:24:17,857 --> 00:24:21,048 near Dungannon in a car, a rented car... 226 00:24:21,152 --> 00:24:23,488 with a man called Mr. Molloy. 227 00:24:23,697 --> 00:24:26,220 Did Mr. Sullivan have Republican sympathies? 228 00:24:26,324 --> 00:24:28,305 - No. - Was he a member of Noraid? 229 00:24:28,410 --> 00:24:31,246 - Not at all. - What kind of a man was he, Mr. Sullivan? 230 00:24:32,581 --> 00:24:37,523 The only thing I can say is he was a very good lawyer and a great fighter... 231 00:24:37,627 --> 00:24:40,776 for the civil rights all over the world and a marvelous friend. 232 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,487 The British government have just appointed... 233 00:24:43,592 --> 00:24:45,448 Deputy Chief Constable Kerrigan... 234 00:24:45,552 --> 00:24:47,950 to head up the investigation on the shooting. 235 00:24:48,054 --> 00:24:49,368 What's your reaction to that? 236 00:24:49,472 --> 00:24:54,123 I've heard that Kerrigan is a fine investigator of the CID... 237 00:24:54,227 --> 00:24:56,376 but we would have preferred that... 238 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,880 it would have been an independent, international inquiry. 239 00:25:00,984 --> 00:25:03,215 So you don't have any confidence in the inquiry? 240 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,947 I've got a certain amount of skepticism about that. 241 00:25:06,489 --> 00:25:08,554 You said that you were skeptical. Why? 242 00:25:08,658 --> 00:25:11,182 Why will the Kerrigan inquiry not discover the truth? 243 00:25:11,286 --> 00:25:16,061 Because you had a lot of inquiries in the 13 past years... 244 00:25:16,166 --> 00:25:19,419 and it didn't change anything. 245 00:25:37,145 --> 00:25:40,252 Excuse me, sir. I'm Sgt. Hughes, your liaison for your stay. 246 00:25:40,357 --> 00:25:42,755 Hello. This is Chief Superintendent Maxwell. 247 00:25:42,859 --> 00:25:45,091 How do you do? The car's just outside the front. 248 00:25:45,195 --> 00:25:47,530 - Can I take your bag? - Thank you. 249 00:25:52,953 --> 00:25:55,392 - This Jessner woman... - Sullivan's girlfriend. 250 00:25:55,497 --> 00:25:59,834 What time is it now? 4:00. Late in the day. 251 00:26:00,669 --> 00:26:02,837 What about this Mrs. Molloy? 252 00:26:03,546 --> 00:26:06,591 She lives in Fort William. 253 00:26:07,634 --> 00:26:09,865 How far is it to Fort William, Sergeant? 254 00:26:09,970 --> 00:26:13,640 Fort William's just over here on the right, sir, about a mile away. 255 00:26:15,558 --> 00:26:18,290 It might be a good idea if you spoke to them both together. 256 00:26:18,395 --> 00:26:19,980 Let them feed off each other. 257 00:26:44,963 --> 00:26:46,464 Your ID, Sarge? 258 00:27:03,315 --> 00:27:05,129 Might as well leave the cases in the car. 259 00:27:05,233 --> 00:27:08,507 - We'll be going to the hotel after. - Sure they'll be safe here? 260 00:27:08,612 --> 00:27:10,113 I hope so, sir. 261 00:27:22,334 --> 00:27:23,877 Just in here, sir. 262 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:33,803 - We're a bit pushed for space, sir. - Not bad. 263 00:27:34,512 --> 00:27:38,079 I want a large wall map of Northern Ireland and a blackboard. 264 00:27:38,183 --> 00:27:41,019 - Blackboard? - Those big black things you write on. 265 00:27:41,478 --> 00:27:42,896 Yes, sir. 266 00:27:43,104 --> 00:27:48,151 - I'll tell Mr. Brodie you're here, sir. - Thank you, Sergeant. That's kind of you. 267 00:27:54,824 --> 00:27:57,786 Hello. 268 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:03,312 - I've seen Jack Cunningham lately. - What's he doing nowadays? 269 00:28:03,416 --> 00:28:06,774 - He runs his own security business. - He must be rolling in it. 270 00:28:06,878 --> 00:28:08,546 He's earned it. 271 00:28:09,506 --> 00:28:11,779 Pleasure to meet you, Mr. Kerrigan. 272 00:28:11,883 --> 00:28:13,531 Chief Superintendent Maxwell. 273 00:28:13,635 --> 00:28:14,740 Sir. 274 00:28:14,844 --> 00:28:16,784 - Good flight? - Bit cramped. 275 00:28:16,888 --> 00:28:18,640 Yeah, always is. 276 00:28:19,140 --> 00:28:21,122 This is not what you're used to, I suppose. 277 00:28:21,226 --> 00:28:24,083 It's the best we can do for one of Britain's top policemen. 278 00:28:24,187 --> 00:28:25,563 It's perfectly adequate. 279 00:28:26,898 --> 00:28:29,505 - Anything else you need? - Thank you. I'll ask. 280 00:28:29,609 --> 00:28:32,091 Detective Sgt. Hughes will be your liaison officer. 281 00:28:32,195 --> 00:28:34,760 He will organize all your internal appointments. 282 00:28:34,864 --> 00:28:39,077 - Yes, secretarial staff... - She'll be arriving tomorrow. 283 00:28:39,244 --> 00:28:40,745 Excuse me. 284 00:28:42,956 --> 00:28:46,167 - Have you read the CID interim report? - Yes. 285 00:28:47,377 --> 00:28:49,442 Now, as I understand it... 286 00:28:49,546 --> 00:28:54,155 your terms of reference in the inquiry are to reexamine the evidence and... 287 00:28:54,259 --> 00:28:56,741 Or if necessary, reinvestigate the circumstances... 288 00:28:56,845 --> 00:28:59,848 which led to the shooting of Paul Sullivan and Frank Molloy. 289 00:29:00,348 --> 00:29:03,518 I'm sure that your expertise will be appreciated. 290 00:29:04,227 --> 00:29:07,480 However, I should warn you that you may encounter some prejudice. 291 00:29:08,064 --> 00:29:11,547 - From members of your force? - Possibly. But don't let that deter you. 292 00:29:11,651 --> 00:29:13,111 It won't. 293 00:29:14,029 --> 00:29:17,970 See, you have to bear in mind the situation here in Northern Ireland. 294 00:29:18,074 --> 00:29:20,702 We operate under enormous pressure. 295 00:29:21,328 --> 00:29:24,143 For the last 12 years, the Royal Ulster Constabulary... 296 00:29:24,247 --> 00:29:28,084 have fought to maintain the peace against the terrorists. 297 00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:31,254 140 people have given their lives. 298 00:29:31,671 --> 00:29:33,173 3,500 have been injured. 299 00:29:33,632 --> 00:29:36,927 And 155 medals for outstanding feats of gallantry. 300 00:29:37,427 --> 00:29:39,658 Naturally, when outsiders from the mainland... 301 00:29:39,763 --> 00:29:43,391 - come here to the province to tell us... - I do understand. 302 00:29:45,352 --> 00:29:48,959 But rest assured, no obstacle will be placed in your path. 303 00:29:49,064 --> 00:29:52,400 - You'll receive my full cooperation. - Thank you. 304 00:29:52,692 --> 00:29:56,217 About accommodation, we have a couple of safe houses where RUC personnel... 305 00:29:56,321 --> 00:30:01,159 I think it would be better if we were to stay in a small hotel somewhere. 306 00:30:01,660 --> 00:30:02,681 Can I ask why? 307 00:30:02,786 --> 00:30:05,851 I don't want to socialize with officers I might have to question. 308 00:30:05,956 --> 00:30:08,500 Best keep it on a strictly professional basis. 309 00:30:08,959 --> 00:30:12,087 - Could I just say one thing, so... - Also, I'll need a car... 310 00:30:12,879 --> 00:30:14,631 without a driver. 311 00:30:15,382 --> 00:30:17,696 You realize that I can't guarantee your safety? 312 00:30:17,801 --> 00:30:18,781 Absolutely. 313 00:30:18,885 --> 00:30:21,888 Just let me say one thing, so there can be no misunderstanding. 314 00:30:22,055 --> 00:30:27,018 When you have completed your inquiry, you will deliver your report to me first. 315 00:30:28,395 --> 00:30:31,710 - I understood it was to go to the DPP first. - No, it comes to me first. 316 00:30:31,815 --> 00:30:34,422 I will forward it to the Director of Public Prosecutions. 317 00:30:34,526 --> 00:30:37,195 That is the constitutional position. 318 00:30:37,487 --> 00:30:41,095 We might as well keep that on a professional basis, too. 319 00:30:41,199 --> 00:30:43,618 - Okay. - Thank you. 320 00:30:54,170 --> 00:30:55,672 Ingrid... 321 00:30:56,381 --> 00:31:00,260 Henri and I will stay with you for as long as you need us. 322 00:31:00,677 --> 00:31:02,512 - I'm okay. - You sure? 323 00:31:03,513 --> 00:31:07,142 I think you can do more back home than you can do here. 324 00:31:15,358 --> 00:31:16,651 Hello? 325 00:31:17,694 --> 00:31:20,739 No, it isn't Ingrid. Who is calling? 326 00:31:23,325 --> 00:31:25,285 Can you wait a second? 327 00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:27,996 It's Paul's mother. 328 00:31:32,959 --> 00:31:34,461 All right? 329 00:31:38,214 --> 00:31:39,466 Rose? 330 00:31:46,681 --> 00:31:48,496 How are you? Are you all right? 331 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,956 Is there somebody there? Is somebody with you? 332 00:31:51,061 --> 00:31:53,021 That's good. 333 00:31:54,147 --> 00:31:58,193 I'm all right. I have some friends here, and it's... 334 00:32:37,899 --> 00:32:41,278 What's the crack on this Insp. Stephens of CID? 335 00:32:41,528 --> 00:32:44,739 Stephens? Decent enough man. 336 00:32:45,532 --> 00:32:47,304 Is he handling the shooting? 337 00:32:47,409 --> 00:32:50,850 Yes. If he was one of my detectives, he'd be back in uniform. 338 00:32:50,954 --> 00:32:51,934 Why? 339 00:32:52,038 --> 00:32:55,542 Three hours after the shooting, the RUC issued a statement. 340 00:32:55,792 --> 00:32:57,377 It was fabricated. 341 00:32:57,961 --> 00:33:00,735 - Maybe they had a reason? - No resistance was offered. 342 00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:04,301 The weapon found in the car clearly didn't belong there. 343 00:33:04,467 --> 00:33:07,032 Forensic showed that the shot that killed the Yank... 344 00:33:07,137 --> 00:33:11,266 was fired at two meters. The trajectory was wrong. 345 00:33:12,309 --> 00:33:16,104 The officer that did the shooting claims he shot at 25 feet. 346 00:33:16,479 --> 00:33:19,274 None of this was in the interim report. 347 00:33:19,816 --> 00:33:23,883 What if there were witnesses, and it comes out at the inquest? 348 00:33:23,987 --> 00:33:26,385 You know as well as I how long these things take. 349 00:33:26,489 --> 00:33:29,305 I know of two cases: One seven years ago, the other was five. 350 00:33:29,409 --> 00:33:32,600 - There's still no inquest in either of them. - This one's different. 351 00:33:32,704 --> 00:33:35,790 There's a lot of dead bodies in Northern Ireland, Peter. 352 00:33:36,166 --> 00:33:40,545 Jack, you haven't been followin' the news. Why the hell do you think I'm here? 353 00:33:40,754 --> 00:33:44,653 - A prominent American was involved. - Brodie was hoping you'd do a snow job. 354 00:33:44,758 --> 00:33:46,238 Not a chance. 355 00:33:46,343 --> 00:33:48,282 Next to the Pope, you're about to become... 356 00:33:48,386 --> 00:33:51,202 the most unpopular man in Northern Ireland. 357 00:33:51,306 --> 00:33:54,768 What you have to understand is Special Branch control the whole thing. 358 00:33:55,435 --> 00:33:56,937 Why do you think I got out? 359 00:33:57,562 --> 00:34:01,399 As soon as my time was up, I just grabbed my pension and ran. 360 00:34:03,109 --> 00:34:05,695 These three policemen involved in the shooting... 361 00:34:06,112 --> 00:34:09,115 - Cowboys, not policemen. - Tell me about them. 362 00:34:09,866 --> 00:34:13,474 Members of an antiterrorist squad, operating undercover. 363 00:34:13,578 --> 00:34:15,789 SSU, Special Support Unit... 364 00:34:16,248 --> 00:34:18,145 code-named Echo 4 Alpha. 365 00:34:18,250 --> 00:34:20,710 - Answerable to whom? - Don't ask. 366 00:34:21,127 --> 00:34:22,629 I have to know. 367 00:34:23,046 --> 00:34:25,569 I'm not saying we shouldn't use them against the IRA... 368 00:34:25,674 --> 00:34:30,512 but the fact is, they're out of control. They're off the wire, trigger-happy. 369 00:34:31,721 --> 00:34:33,536 They go where they want, do what they want. 370 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,351 They shoot first, no questions asked. 371 00:34:37,227 --> 00:34:40,438 The other side don't play by the rules either. 372 00:34:40,563 --> 00:34:42,023 We're not the IRA. 373 00:34:42,899 --> 00:34:45,339 Goin' back to these three policemen... 374 00:34:45,443 --> 00:34:47,883 If they were involved, then it's a covert operation. 375 00:34:47,988 --> 00:34:50,719 - What about Special Branch? - They are Special Branch. 376 00:34:50,824 --> 00:34:54,411 - Sanctioned by them? - Or Ml5 or Ml6. 377 00:34:55,203 --> 00:34:57,455 Take your pick. We all piss in the same pot. 378 00:35:01,251 --> 00:35:03,691 If the British public knew half of what goes on... 379 00:35:03,795 --> 00:35:06,861 in Northern Ireland, they wouldn't sleep in their beds. 380 00:35:06,965 --> 00:35:11,428 - I don't know what the answer is. - Good night, Jack. Thanks. 381 00:35:11,678 --> 00:35:13,284 Do yourself a favor, Peter. 382 00:35:13,388 --> 00:35:15,828 I know it goes against the grain, but toe the line. 383 00:35:15,932 --> 00:35:18,289 Give them what they want, and get back to England. 384 00:35:18,393 --> 00:35:21,041 - We'll see. - You're a pillock! 385 00:35:21,146 --> 00:35:22,397 Mind how you go. 386 00:35:22,606 --> 00:35:26,067 Nobody gives a shit what happens in Northern Ireland. 387 00:36:37,472 --> 00:36:40,892 - What's wrong? - I found this on the seat of my car. 388 00:36:41,851 --> 00:36:44,750 "The next bullet is for you if you don't get out of Ireland. 389 00:36:44,854 --> 00:36:46,606 "Our day will come". 390 00:36:47,607 --> 00:36:48,942 IRA? 391 00:36:52,988 --> 00:36:54,927 It's a 9-millimeter. 392 00:36:55,031 --> 00:36:56,866 Walther PPK pistol. 393 00:36:58,702 --> 00:37:02,080 That's a weapon favored by the cowboys we talked about earlier. 394 00:37:03,248 --> 00:37:05,292 - Echo 4 Alpha? - Yeah. 395 00:37:07,377 --> 00:37:08,837 So where are you taking me? 396 00:37:10,338 --> 00:37:12,173 It's one of ours, Peter. 397 00:37:13,508 --> 00:37:15,176 Excuse me. Hi. 398 00:37:16,886 --> 00:37:18,638 Good afternoon, Ms. Jessner. 399 00:37:19,055 --> 00:37:20,703 - Any further news yet? - No, none. 400 00:37:20,807 --> 00:37:22,830 - What are your plans now? - I have none... 401 00:37:22,934 --> 00:37:26,021 and I don't want to say anything. Please, now, thank you. 402 00:37:26,313 --> 00:37:27,501 - Ms. Jessner. - Mr. Kerrigan. 403 00:37:27,606 --> 00:37:29,253 - Thank you for seeing me. - Of course. 404 00:37:29,357 --> 00:37:31,338 Did you get in touch with Mrs. Molloy? 405 00:37:31,443 --> 00:37:33,904 Yes. She's expecting us. 406 00:37:34,696 --> 00:37:36,990 How are your skills as a navigator? 407 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,386 This is Paradox. 408 00:37:59,429 --> 00:38:01,389 Subjects leaving location. 409 00:38:02,015 --> 00:38:03,767 Tabs on now, please. 410 00:38:11,191 --> 00:38:13,652 Paul was murdered, Mr. Kerrigan. 411 00:38:14,277 --> 00:38:17,948 - Why would the police want to kill him? - I don't know, but they did. 412 00:38:18,615 --> 00:38:21,159 - What proof do you have? - None. 413 00:38:22,786 --> 00:38:25,288 But I do know what goes on here. 414 00:38:25,664 --> 00:38:29,668 Torture, paid informants, roadside executions, death squads. 415 00:38:36,383 --> 00:38:40,032 Mr. Kerrigan, when I was going through Paul's things... 416 00:38:40,136 --> 00:38:43,056 I found something I think might be important. 417 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,350 It's an empty cassette box. 418 00:38:46,101 --> 00:38:49,312 Paul was meticulous, and I can't find that tape. 419 00:38:50,021 --> 00:38:52,211 - Did you ask about it? - I told the police. 420 00:38:52,315 --> 00:38:56,403 - And what did they say? - They would look into it and call me back. 421 00:38:56,611 --> 00:38:58,572 - And did they? - No. 422 00:38:59,823 --> 00:39:01,637 What was on the tape? 423 00:39:01,741 --> 00:39:05,412 I don't know, but he was listening to it the night before. 424 00:39:11,918 --> 00:39:13,420 This is it. 425 00:39:17,716 --> 00:39:21,866 I also found this list of names. 426 00:39:21,970 --> 00:39:24,139 - Is this his writing? - Yes. 427 00:39:30,979 --> 00:39:33,523 This is a pretty formidable group. 428 00:39:34,524 --> 00:39:37,611 Lord Randall, Alec Nevin, Sir Gerald Binning... 429 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,719 Why did he write these six names? 430 00:39:41,823 --> 00:39:44,054 - I don't know. - Had he met them? 431 00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:46,161 No, not that I know of. 432 00:39:47,954 --> 00:39:49,852 Have you shown this to anyone else? 433 00:39:49,956 --> 00:39:53,084 No. Why, what do you think it is? 434 00:39:53,376 --> 00:39:55,295 What do you think? 435 00:39:56,379 --> 00:39:59,007 Could be people targeted, hit list. 436 00:40:01,259 --> 00:40:05,367 - I'm not saying it is, but... - Paul was not involved with terrorists. 437 00:40:05,472 --> 00:40:07,349 Perhaps innocently. 438 00:40:07,557 --> 00:40:10,873 - Maybe he was being used. - He was too smart to be manipulated. 439 00:40:10,977 --> 00:40:12,958 He was a good lawyer. He thought like one. 440 00:40:13,063 --> 00:40:15,002 Then why did he write down these six names? 441 00:40:15,106 --> 00:40:18,693 And why did he leave the hotel at 5:00 in the morning, leaving you? 442 00:40:19,319 --> 00:40:21,509 What was he doing driving around Dungannon... 443 00:40:21,613 --> 00:40:24,032 with a fringe member of the IRA? 444 00:40:25,325 --> 00:40:27,702 He must have been mixed up in something. 445 00:40:28,495 --> 00:40:31,102 Mrs. Molloy, is this Frank's father? 446 00:40:31,206 --> 00:40:33,729 - That's his father. - Who's that? 447 00:40:33,833 --> 00:40:38,755 Them's his friends, lifelong friends. They just can't believe it either. 448 00:40:40,340 --> 00:40:45,220 Those were taken on holiday. It was the last holiday we had. 449 00:40:47,681 --> 00:40:50,225 Have you a religion, Mr. Kerrigan? 450 00:40:51,309 --> 00:40:52,706 Catholic. 451 00:40:52,811 --> 00:40:56,481 In the heel of the hunt, we'll all be answerable to God. 452 00:40:56,773 --> 00:40:59,630 I curse the bloody day we ever came back here. 453 00:40:59,734 --> 00:41:01,236 Why did you? 454 00:41:01,570 --> 00:41:05,699 No choice. He was workin' for the Ministry of Defense in London. 455 00:41:06,032 --> 00:41:08,556 Some bright spark sent him on this course. 456 00:41:08,660 --> 00:41:10,850 Then he was transferred over here. 457 00:41:10,954 --> 00:41:13,206 What kind of work did he do? 458 00:41:13,623 --> 00:41:15,458 It came under the army... 459 00:41:15,709 --> 00:41:18,837 to do with education and publishing things. 460 00:41:19,796 --> 00:41:23,425 To tell you the truth, he never talked much about it... 461 00:41:23,592 --> 00:41:25,448 but he wasn't happy. 462 00:41:25,552 --> 00:41:27,429 That's why he left? 463 00:41:28,138 --> 00:41:31,766 Under a cloud. Said he couldn't stomach it anymore. 464 00:41:32,726 --> 00:41:34,936 Can I take a look at these? 465 00:41:37,147 --> 00:41:40,150 - Who's that? - That's Grace's weddin'. 466 00:41:40,942 --> 00:41:44,049 - It's your daughter? - That was a beautiful day. 467 00:41:44,154 --> 00:41:46,072 She looks wonderful. 468 00:41:46,781 --> 00:41:48,033 Mrs. Molloy... 469 00:41:50,327 --> 00:41:52,767 Did your husband ever mention Paul to you? 470 00:41:52,871 --> 00:41:54,080 No. 471 00:41:55,248 --> 00:41:58,022 They must have known each other, though, don't you think? 472 00:41:58,126 --> 00:42:01,254 They must've. But I never heard Frank mention him. 473 00:42:01,546 --> 00:42:03,924 You were telling us earlier... 474 00:42:04,215 --> 00:42:06,635 that the house was searched. 475 00:42:06,927 --> 00:42:08,845 Yes. Two days after. 476 00:42:10,180 --> 00:42:12,641 Do you know who authorized it? Was it the police? 477 00:42:12,807 --> 00:42:15,060 The big knock authorized it. 478 00:42:15,393 --> 00:42:19,606 1:00 in the mornin', you either open up, or your door goes in. 479 00:42:20,231 --> 00:42:22,234 Did they question you? 480 00:42:22,442 --> 00:42:24,903 Asked me if I knew Capt. Harris. 481 00:42:25,570 --> 00:42:26,571 Capt. Harris? 482 00:42:26,988 --> 00:42:30,659 Frank's old boss. Worked in a unit at Lisburn. 483 00:42:31,034 --> 00:42:34,100 - And what did you tell them? - Told them the truth. 484 00:42:34,204 --> 00:42:36,831 The last time I saw Capt. Harris... 485 00:42:37,332 --> 00:42:38,625 was at the weddin'. 486 00:42:38,875 --> 00:42:41,378 Did they find anything? 487 00:42:42,003 --> 00:42:45,319 They took away some papers and all his cassette tapes. 488 00:42:45,423 --> 00:42:47,425 - Tapes? - The lot. 489 00:42:48,176 --> 00:42:51,117 Capt. Harris, if he was at the wedding... 490 00:42:51,221 --> 00:42:53,786 he might be in one of these photographs. 491 00:42:53,890 --> 00:42:55,830 You've just been looking at it. 492 00:42:55,934 --> 00:42:59,938 - This one? - That's him, next to the groom. 493 00:43:02,399 --> 00:43:03,775 I know him. 494 00:43:04,025 --> 00:43:06,820 - You met him? - No, I know his face. 495 00:43:08,363 --> 00:43:11,032 He was talking to Paul at the Orange Parade. 496 00:43:12,117 --> 00:43:16,037 - Here are the documents you asked for. - Thank you, Chief. 497 00:43:28,383 --> 00:43:31,094 Could you initial there, Mr. Maxwell? 498 00:43:38,602 --> 00:43:43,148 And you'll have to sign the secured-documents book as well. 499 00:43:48,778 --> 00:43:52,032 And how did you get involved in civil liberties? 500 00:43:53,158 --> 00:43:54,701 I was in Chile. 501 00:43:54,993 --> 00:43:57,016 I was doing some research... 502 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,789 for a TV documentary called The Disappeared. 503 00:44:00,332 --> 00:44:03,606 It was about the victims of Pinochet after the coup. 504 00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:07,881 - Paul was there working for the League. - When was that? 505 00:44:08,465 --> 00:44:09,925 1975. 506 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,929 There was a technical adviser working with us... 507 00:44:14,471 --> 00:44:16,932 a young Chilean journalist. 508 00:44:17,432 --> 00:44:20,873 He disappeared one day and I went to the League and Paul... 509 00:44:20,977 --> 00:44:24,272 to see if they could find out what happened to him. 510 00:44:26,650 --> 00:44:28,944 - And did they? - No. 511 00:44:31,488 --> 00:44:34,282 It was a year before we found out he'd been executed. 512 00:44:34,991 --> 00:44:36,952 What happened to the film? 513 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,267 - Never got made. - Too controversial? 514 00:44:40,372 --> 00:44:41,665 Too honest, I think. 515 00:44:42,499 --> 00:44:45,523 It was about how Mr. Kissinger, the CIA, and the Pentagon... 516 00:44:45,627 --> 00:44:48,338 had made Chile safe for democracy. 517 00:44:51,591 --> 00:44:54,010 So I quit TV and joined the League. 518 00:44:54,636 --> 00:44:56,721 Got to know Paul better. 519 00:44:59,432 --> 00:45:01,789 How about you? You have a wife? 520 00:45:01,893 --> 00:45:03,103 Yes. 521 00:45:03,603 --> 00:45:05,188 - Kids? - Three. 522 00:45:05,939 --> 00:45:08,733 Two at university, one away at school. 523 00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:11,424 - See them much? - Not as often as I'd like. 524 00:45:11,528 --> 00:45:14,844 May I have your attention, please? Telephone call for Mr. Kerrigan. 525 00:45:14,948 --> 00:45:18,097 - Would a Mr. Kerrigan please... - Excuse me. 526 00:45:18,201 --> 00:45:19,703 Thank you. 527 00:45:27,043 --> 00:45:28,211 Yes? 528 00:45:28,420 --> 00:45:31,694 It's Tom. I got that stuff on Harris, what there is of it. 529 00:45:31,798 --> 00:45:32,945 Go ahead. 530 00:45:33,049 --> 00:45:37,429 The first name's James John. Born Gateshead, 1942. 531 00:45:37,721 --> 00:45:42,017 Religion, Protestant. Joined the army, 1960, as a private soldier. 532 00:45:42,225 --> 00:45:44,769 Promoted to the rank of lieutenant in '64. 533 00:45:45,437 --> 00:45:48,273 Doesn't say which mob. 1971... 534 00:45:48,523 --> 00:45:49,670 he attended a course... 535 00:45:49,774 --> 00:45:54,279 at the United States Army Special Warfare School at Fort Bragg. 536 00:45:54,529 --> 00:45:56,698 A year later, 1972... 537 00:45:57,073 --> 00:46:01,703 he was seconded to the Psychological Warfare Unit... 538 00:46:01,912 --> 00:46:03,038 known as PSYOPS. 539 00:46:03,163 --> 00:46:05,436 - The same place Molloy went to. - Right. 540 00:46:05,540 --> 00:46:09,502 In 1973, he was sent to Northern Ireland as a senior captain. 541 00:46:10,170 --> 00:46:15,071 That's it, apart from a list of postings at various regiments. 542 00:46:15,175 --> 00:46:17,260 - Nothing else? - Dead end. 543 00:46:17,427 --> 00:46:18,720 And since '73? 544 00:46:19,429 --> 00:46:21,744 - Classified. - They told you that? 545 00:46:21,848 --> 00:46:24,059 With great emphasis. The shutters came down. 546 00:46:31,274 --> 00:46:34,256 If there is a connection between Paul's death and Harris... 547 00:46:34,361 --> 00:46:36,071 There has to be. 548 00:46:36,363 --> 00:46:38,719 Then I need to know more about the background. 549 00:46:38,823 --> 00:46:41,055 Why not start with where he is? 550 00:46:41,159 --> 00:46:43,682 According to the colonel I spoke to in Lisburn... 551 00:46:43,787 --> 00:46:46,248 Harris is away on leave and can't be traced. 552 00:46:48,291 --> 00:46:50,523 There was a hint he may be suffering from stress. 553 00:46:50,627 --> 00:46:52,545 Do you believe that? 554 00:46:52,796 --> 00:46:53,964 No. 555 00:46:55,257 --> 00:46:56,508 Mr. Kerrigan... 556 00:46:57,300 --> 00:46:59,344 How far are you willing to go with this? 557 00:47:00,262 --> 00:47:01,304 If... 558 00:47:01,972 --> 00:47:03,994 and it's still a big if... 559 00:47:04,099 --> 00:47:07,852 but if Harris is, in any way, connected with this shooting... 560 00:47:08,436 --> 00:47:11,001 I don't care whose toes I tread on. 561 00:47:11,106 --> 00:47:15,443 He becomes part of the investigation, no more, no less. 562 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,114 - Okay? - Okay. 563 00:47:20,615 --> 00:47:23,952 What it boils down to, Sergeant, is that you're in deep trouble. 564 00:47:24,327 --> 00:47:27,560 You're in a shit storm, and it's blowing around your ears. 565 00:47:27,664 --> 00:47:29,937 We're not just talking about disciplinary charges. 566 00:47:30,041 --> 00:47:31,897 It goes beyond that. 567 00:47:32,002 --> 00:47:34,629 You could be facing a murder charge. 568 00:47:34,963 --> 00:47:37,528 This man Sullivan was no run-of-the-mill Paddy... 569 00:47:37,632 --> 00:47:39,572 you could just blow away. 570 00:47:39,676 --> 00:47:42,408 He was an American lawyer with an international reputation. 571 00:47:42,512 --> 00:47:45,557 Now, there is no way this will be brushed under the carpet. 572 00:47:47,183 --> 00:47:48,893 How old are you? 573 00:47:49,728 --> 00:47:50,895 37. 574 00:47:51,771 --> 00:47:55,066 - How long have you been on the force? - Twelve years. 575 00:48:00,572 --> 00:48:03,888 Two years ago, you shot dead a Republican in the Falls. 576 00:48:03,992 --> 00:48:07,266 - It was either him or me, sir. - I'm not criticizing you, Sergeant. 577 00:48:07,370 --> 00:48:09,143 You should have been given a commendation. 578 00:48:09,247 --> 00:48:11,791 - I was. - I'm on your side. 579 00:48:14,044 --> 00:48:15,921 But if you go down for this... 580 00:48:16,713 --> 00:48:20,717 how long do you think you'd last in the Crumlin Road Prison? 581 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,828 - You searched the bodies? - Yes, sir. 582 00:48:27,933 --> 00:48:30,477 - Took away all personal effects? - Yes, sir. 583 00:48:30,602 --> 00:48:32,854 Find anything interesting on Sullivan? 584 00:48:33,188 --> 00:48:37,859 Usual stuff: Wallet, money, ID card. 585 00:48:38,902 --> 00:48:41,363 What about the tape he was carrying? 586 00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:46,034 There was no tape, sir. 587 00:48:47,661 --> 00:48:49,975 - Are you getting all this? - Yes, sir. 588 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,645 - Read out that last bit. - From where? 589 00:48:52,749 --> 00:48:54,376 From me asking about the tape. 590 00:48:54,918 --> 00:48:59,673 "What about the tape he was carrying?" "There was no tape, sir". 591 00:49:00,882 --> 00:49:02,926 Do you want me to leave it at that? 592 00:49:03,093 --> 00:49:06,575 It's up to you. You've already lied once in your statement to the CID. 593 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:11,142 - I'm bound by the Official Secrets Act. - Not anymore, you're not. 594 00:49:12,269 --> 00:49:14,479 All constraints are lifted. 595 00:49:15,397 --> 00:49:18,587 You can wipe the slate clean and tell me everything that happened... 596 00:49:18,692 --> 00:49:22,070 and you might get off with a reprimand, or you bury yourself deeper. 597 00:49:22,821 --> 00:49:24,614 So what's it gonna be? 598 00:49:32,789 --> 00:49:34,583 After the shooting... 599 00:49:35,834 --> 00:49:39,045 we returned to the barracks for the debriefing. 600 00:49:41,381 --> 00:49:43,091 We were told... 601 00:49:43,967 --> 00:49:46,720 by a senior officer what to say. 602 00:49:48,138 --> 00:49:49,347 Name? 603 00:49:51,141 --> 00:49:52,767 Superintendent Fraser. 604 00:49:53,768 --> 00:49:55,979 He instructed you to lie to the CID? 605 00:49:56,187 --> 00:49:57,543 Yes, sir. 606 00:49:57,647 --> 00:50:00,629 He said it was to protect our source of information. 607 00:50:00,734 --> 00:50:02,715 Do you know what that source was? 608 00:50:02,819 --> 00:50:04,946 No, sir. We were only told to intercept. 609 00:50:05,989 --> 00:50:08,617 Were you ordered to shoot on sight? 610 00:50:09,826 --> 00:50:11,786 Not in so many words. 611 00:50:12,662 --> 00:50:13,955 What does that mean? 612 00:50:14,956 --> 00:50:18,981 We were told that the two men in the car were armed and dangerous... 613 00:50:19,085 --> 00:50:22,130 and we mustn't take any chances with them. 614 00:50:23,006 --> 00:50:25,258 How did you interpret that? 615 00:50:26,176 --> 00:50:29,075 I got the feeling that we were being given clear signals... 616 00:50:29,179 --> 00:50:33,183 to bring them back dead or alive, and there'd be no questions asked. 617 00:50:34,017 --> 00:50:36,311 Now, tell me about the tape. 618 00:50:38,146 --> 00:50:40,377 We took it from the American. 619 00:50:40,482 --> 00:50:41,775 Go on. 620 00:50:42,692 --> 00:50:44,903 When we got back to the barracks... 621 00:50:45,528 --> 00:50:47,510 Mr. Fraser was there to meet us. 622 00:50:47,614 --> 00:50:49,720 And there was someone else along with him. 623 00:50:49,824 --> 00:50:53,036 - A police officer? - More like Special Branch. 624 00:50:53,370 --> 00:50:55,935 - What was his name? - I don't know. 625 00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:57,624 But he seemed to be in charge. 626 00:50:58,959 --> 00:51:00,877 Can you describe him? 627 00:51:01,378 --> 00:51:02,796 English... 628 00:51:03,713 --> 00:51:05,006 tall... 629 00:51:05,674 --> 00:51:07,384 thinning on top... 630 00:51:08,051 --> 00:51:09,636 age, about 40. 631 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,431 So what happened? 632 00:51:15,141 --> 00:51:18,728 The first thing the tall man asked about was the tape. 633 00:51:20,105 --> 00:51:22,524 - Which he took with him? - Yes, sir. 634 00:51:23,066 --> 00:51:26,861 - Have you any idea what was on the tape? - Not a clue, sir. 635 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:31,533 Okay. 636 00:51:33,076 --> 00:51:36,621 We'll just run through it again. Then you can sign it. 637 00:51:40,959 --> 00:51:43,128 Do you have his statement? 638 00:51:47,090 --> 00:51:48,550 Here. Now. 639 00:51:49,259 --> 00:51:52,867 The senior officer that did the debriefing, Superintendent Fraser, yeah... 640 00:51:52,971 --> 00:51:55,307 I want to see him today. 641 00:51:55,432 --> 00:51:56,495 What do you think? 642 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,248 I think it's time I had a word with Mr. Brodie... 643 00:51:59,352 --> 00:52:03,732 after I've interviewed Fraser. There's something else I want you to do. 644 00:52:04,065 --> 00:52:07,465 Before he left the hotel, Sullivan wrote a list of names. 645 00:52:07,569 --> 00:52:09,696 I want you to check them. 646 00:52:10,030 --> 00:52:13,909 The connection is obvious. Famous punters, what have you. 647 00:52:14,784 --> 00:52:17,203 I want something more specific. 648 00:52:17,746 --> 00:52:21,374 - Has Brodie seen this? - No. We'll keep it in the family. 649 00:52:27,964 --> 00:52:29,382 538, please. 650 00:52:32,928 --> 00:52:36,056 Here's your key, and there's a message for you as well. 651 00:54:00,515 --> 00:54:03,226 - Hiya. Come on in. - Thanks. 652 00:54:12,444 --> 00:54:13,612 Hey. 653 00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:16,907 - Kevin. - Here you are. 654 00:54:17,657 --> 00:54:19,034 Thanks. 655 00:54:19,284 --> 00:54:22,704 Look, I was really sorry to hear about Mr. Sullivan. 656 00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:24,456 Thanks. 657 00:54:27,542 --> 00:54:29,023 Do you smoke? 658 00:54:29,127 --> 00:54:32,589 - Here. - Yes. Thanks. 659 00:54:33,548 --> 00:54:36,217 - So is it just you and Kevin? - Yeah. 660 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,471 His dad's doing 12 years in the Kesh. 661 00:54:40,931 --> 00:54:41,765 What for? 662 00:54:42,557 --> 00:54:45,393 Possession of arms and IRA membership. 663 00:54:45,727 --> 00:54:49,460 He was doing a punishment for the IRA on some local gangsters... 664 00:54:49,564 --> 00:54:54,110 who were robbin' their own community, and he got caught by the RUC. 665 00:54:54,736 --> 00:54:57,697 Just like him. He never did have much luck. 666 00:54:59,282 --> 00:55:03,245 So you said in your note that you might have some information. 667 00:55:03,536 --> 00:55:05,830 I'm just delivering a message. 668 00:55:06,581 --> 00:55:09,918 Harris wants to meet you and the policeman Kerrigan. 669 00:55:10,752 --> 00:55:12,712 - When? - Tomorrow night. 670 00:55:14,297 --> 00:55:17,717 Look, after what's happened, can you trust Kerrigan? 671 00:55:18,593 --> 00:55:23,473 - Yeah, I trust him. I think he's different. - Anyway, Harris wants him there. 672 00:55:24,516 --> 00:55:28,144 You're to meet at a Republican club off Falls Road. I have the address. 673 00:55:28,937 --> 00:55:31,001 Will Kerrigan be safe in a Republican club? 674 00:55:31,106 --> 00:55:34,276 He'll be safe as long as you're with him. 675 00:55:34,859 --> 00:55:37,988 I'll get you that photograph I told you about. 676 00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:41,741 This is it. 677 00:55:43,535 --> 00:55:45,870 He's an officer in the SAS. 678 00:55:46,663 --> 00:55:49,270 He led a killer squad across the border. 679 00:55:49,374 --> 00:55:51,793 That's where this photograph was taken. 680 00:56:00,343 --> 00:56:03,242 Is there anything in Sgt. Kennedy's statement... 681 00:56:03,346 --> 00:56:06,099 you disagree with, Superintendent? 682 00:56:07,017 --> 00:56:08,393 No, sir. 683 00:56:08,685 --> 00:56:12,147 He says that you instructed him to lie to the CID... 684 00:56:12,731 --> 00:56:16,151 about the shooting of Paul Sullivan and Frank Molloy. Is this true? 685 00:56:17,736 --> 00:56:19,717 It was to protect our source of information. 686 00:56:19,821 --> 00:56:23,137 - Can you tell me what that source was? - That's classified information. 687 00:56:23,241 --> 00:56:26,494 - On whose orders? - On the orders of Mr. Brodie. 688 00:56:29,873 --> 00:56:33,627 When your men returned to the barracks, they were given a debriefing. 689 00:56:33,877 --> 00:56:36,379 Were they given a cover-up story? 690 00:56:37,380 --> 00:56:39,570 Certain evidence was withheld, yes. 691 00:56:39,674 --> 00:56:43,428 A dress rehearsal, so they could decide what to tell the CID? 692 00:56:44,971 --> 00:56:46,765 - Yes, sir. - By you? 693 00:56:47,933 --> 00:56:50,810 Yes, sir, but I was acting under orders. 694 00:56:53,772 --> 00:56:55,690 This Englishman... 695 00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,028 tall, thinning hair, about 40... 696 00:57:00,820 --> 00:57:03,156 who took the tape, who is he? 697 00:57:04,324 --> 00:57:06,910 - Don't know, sir. - Have you seen him before? 698 00:57:09,329 --> 00:57:11,456 Once, with Mr. Brodie. 699 00:57:11,790 --> 00:57:13,083 Where? 700 00:57:14,376 --> 00:57:16,378 Here, in this building. 701 00:57:17,045 --> 00:57:20,840 - Did he show you his authority? - No, sir. 702 00:57:22,050 --> 00:57:24,719 He just walked in and took the tape? 703 00:57:25,512 --> 00:57:28,390 I received a phone call from Mr. Brodie. 704 00:57:29,057 --> 00:57:30,642 He told you to give it to him? 705 00:57:32,143 --> 00:57:33,561 Yes, sir. 706 00:57:35,939 --> 00:57:38,400 - Would you mind if I smoke, sir? - Yes, I do. 707 00:57:56,001 --> 00:57:57,502 Go! 708 00:57:58,003 --> 00:57:59,254 Move! Move it! 709 00:57:59,629 --> 00:58:01,590 Get out of here! 710 00:58:02,674 --> 00:58:05,594 - Police! - Get out of my house! 711 00:58:07,304 --> 00:58:10,619 - There's nobody in there! Just get out! - Get inside, get in there. 712 00:58:10,724 --> 00:58:13,956 What do you want? My baby's in there. Don't let them go in there! 713 00:58:14,060 --> 00:58:16,417 I'm arresting you under the Emergency Provisions Act. 714 00:58:16,521 --> 00:58:19,378 - Get your clothes on now! - What are they doing? 715 00:58:19,482 --> 00:58:20,921 My baby's in the other room. 716 00:58:21,026 --> 00:58:23,549 Okay, that's too bad. Get your clothes on! 717 00:58:23,653 --> 00:58:26,343 - No! What are you arresting me for? - Get your clothes on. 718 00:58:26,448 --> 00:58:29,680 - I'm arresting you under Section 11! - I haven't done anything! 719 00:58:29,784 --> 00:58:33,350 - We'll see about that! - Will you, now? I'm going nowhere! 720 00:58:33,455 --> 00:58:35,603 Tell him to get out of there! My baby's in there! 721 00:58:35,707 --> 00:58:38,668 - Get your clothes on now! - I'm putting no clothes on! 722 00:58:42,339 --> 00:58:44,653 Get off! 723 00:58:44,758 --> 00:58:47,135 - You bitch! - Get off! 724 00:58:49,971 --> 00:58:52,953 - Get off me! - Just calm down! 725 00:58:53,058 --> 00:58:55,081 I'm going nowhere until I've seen a solicitor! 726 00:58:55,185 --> 00:58:58,939 - Just calm down! Open the door, Sam. - What about my baby next door? 727 00:58:59,189 --> 00:59:01,524 Open that door. We're going downtown. 728 00:59:02,108 --> 00:59:04,444 - I'm going nowhere! - Hold her! 729 00:59:13,078 --> 00:59:16,331 - Has Brodie's office returned my call yet? - No. 730 00:59:17,374 --> 00:59:19,000 Try again now. 731 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,530 Mr. Kerrigan's secretary. 732 00:59:27,634 --> 00:59:31,054 Did you set up that appointment with Mr. Brodie yet? 733 00:59:31,471 --> 00:59:34,683 Why not? I've been trying since 12:00 yesterday. 734 00:59:36,851 --> 00:59:39,041 Excuse me. He can't meet you today. 735 00:59:39,145 --> 00:59:42,357 - He has an official engagement. - Playing games. 736 00:59:43,483 --> 00:59:45,068 Find out when he's leaving. 737 00:59:46,403 --> 00:59:48,488 Is Mr. Brodie there now? 738 00:59:49,489 --> 00:59:52,242 What time's his appointment? Thank you. 739 00:59:52,909 --> 00:59:54,327 He's there until 2:30. 740 01:00:06,715 --> 01:00:09,947 Two statements: Fraser's and Sgt. Kennedy's. 741 01:00:10,051 --> 01:00:13,221 - I'd like to see them. - They'll be in my report. 742 01:00:13,388 --> 01:00:15,745 - And now you want to question me? - Interview you. 743 01:00:15,849 --> 01:00:18,727 - Make an appointment. - All right. When? 744 01:00:19,185 --> 01:00:22,397 - At my convenience. - Will you get off your fuckin' high horse? 745 01:00:23,023 --> 01:00:26,026 I don't ask your cooperation! I demand it! 746 01:00:27,986 --> 01:00:31,698 - What is it you want? - Everything, chapter and verse. 747 01:00:32,616 --> 01:00:34,784 - That might not be possible. - Why not? 748 01:00:35,035 --> 01:00:37,183 Give me your question, and please try to hurry. 749 01:00:37,287 --> 01:00:39,727 I've got another funeral to attend. 750 01:00:39,831 --> 01:00:43,919 Both Superintendent Fraser and Sgt. Kennedy admit there was a cover-up. 751 01:00:45,211 --> 01:00:48,194 - Fraser says you ordered it. - Classified. 752 01:00:48,298 --> 01:00:49,737 Then the buck stops here? 753 01:00:49,841 --> 01:00:52,364 - It's classified. - I can't accept that. 754 01:00:52,469 --> 01:00:55,347 Then put that in your report, too. Next question. 755 01:00:55,889 --> 01:00:57,161 - He says... - Who says? 756 01:00:57,265 --> 01:01:01,728 Fraser says it was in order to protect the source. 757 01:01:02,103 --> 01:01:05,002 - That's acceptable. - Not to me, it isn't. 758 01:01:05,106 --> 01:01:07,254 That's because you have been meddling in things... 759 01:01:07,359 --> 01:01:11,655 Meddling? I am conducting an investigation, for Christ's Sake! 760 01:01:12,906 --> 01:01:15,137 Cover-up stories are used to protect informants... 761 01:01:15,242 --> 01:01:17,869 whose lives might be endangered. 762 01:01:18,119 --> 01:01:19,329 Look. 763 01:01:19,496 --> 01:01:23,458 The last thing I want to do is to probe into sensitive areas. 764 01:01:23,792 --> 01:01:26,315 But these civil-liberties people are organized. 765 01:01:26,419 --> 01:01:29,276 They're sending over a lawyer from the States for the inquest. 766 01:01:29,381 --> 01:01:30,361 So? 767 01:01:30,465 --> 01:01:33,030 They'll make mincemeat out of you. They'll ask questions. 768 01:01:33,134 --> 01:01:35,136 I've got a couple questions of my own. 769 01:01:35,679 --> 01:01:37,243 There was no roadblock. 770 01:01:37,347 --> 01:01:39,870 No witnesses were questioned, no resistance offered. 771 01:01:39,975 --> 01:01:42,123 The weapon found in the car had no fingerprints. 772 01:01:42,227 --> 01:01:44,375 Forensic showed the shot that killed Sullivan... 773 01:01:44,479 --> 01:01:48,712 was fired at a distance of two meters after the car had crashed. 774 01:01:48,817 --> 01:01:51,215 The officers involved were acting on the assumption... 775 01:01:51,319 --> 01:01:53,426 that both men were armed and dangerous. 776 01:01:53,530 --> 01:01:54,948 Prove it. 777 01:01:56,700 --> 01:02:00,224 What was Sullivan doing in Dungannon at 5:00 in the morning with Molloy? 778 01:02:00,328 --> 01:02:01,725 Was there a warrant out for them? 779 01:02:01,830 --> 01:02:04,145 - No, there wasn't. - Then you've no case. 780 01:02:04,249 --> 01:02:07,148 There's no law against two men deciding to go out for a drive. 781 01:02:07,252 --> 01:02:10,234 When that comes out in court, your cover story will be blown... 782 01:02:10,338 --> 01:02:13,487 because neither Kennedy nor Fraser are prepared to carry the can. 783 01:02:13,592 --> 01:02:16,157 - That's for the DPP to decide. - Will he have a choice? 784 01:02:16,261 --> 01:02:19,952 When that lawyer gets him at the inquest, he'll squeeze him like toothpaste. 785 01:02:20,056 --> 01:02:23,080 Do you think I give a shit about a smart-arsed American lawyer? 786 01:02:23,184 --> 01:02:25,040 I would, if I were you! 787 01:02:25,145 --> 01:02:29,774 Yes. The RUC do run covert operations, but so do the IRA! 788 01:02:29,983 --> 01:02:33,612 If you want to bring home the bacon, you first of all have to kill the pig. 789 01:02:34,696 --> 01:02:36,823 Now, if you will excuse me... 790 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,139 three of our young men are being buried this morning. 791 01:02:40,243 --> 01:02:41,995 Blown up by a land mine. 792 01:02:44,956 --> 01:02:46,520 I have more questions. 793 01:02:46,625 --> 01:02:49,106 Two of them were married with young children. 794 01:02:49,210 --> 01:02:50,962 I want that tape. 795 01:02:53,006 --> 01:02:54,028 What tape? 796 01:02:54,132 --> 01:02:58,011 The tape they found on Sullivan's body and brought back to Gough Barracks. 797 01:02:58,762 --> 01:03:00,034 This Fraser again? 798 01:03:00,138 --> 01:03:02,078 And Kennedy. It's in both their statements. 799 01:03:02,182 --> 01:03:04,330 - I don't have the tape. - But you know who does. 800 01:03:04,434 --> 01:03:07,520 - Classified information. - "Classified" bullshit! 801 01:03:07,812 --> 01:03:11,962 What the fuck are you people runnin' here? Your own private shooting war? 802 01:03:12,067 --> 01:03:13,964 Checks and balances, Mr. Kerrigan. 803 01:03:14,069 --> 01:03:16,300 Between the jigs and the reels, we are winning. 804 01:03:16,404 --> 01:03:19,241 And innocent lives are being saved as a result! 805 01:03:20,075 --> 01:03:22,911 The source you wish to protect is Army Intelligence. 806 01:03:23,078 --> 01:03:24,454 Am I right? 807 01:03:27,415 --> 01:03:29,480 - What did you say? - I'll say it again quickly. 808 01:03:29,584 --> 01:03:31,690 Molloy and Sullivan were killed for that tape... 809 01:03:31,795 --> 01:03:35,319 and Army Intelligence, Ml5, Ml6, call it what you want, are involved... 810 01:03:35,423 --> 01:03:38,468 and I want to know why, Mr. Brodie. 811 01:03:38,802 --> 01:03:41,325 - Then take it up with them. - You ordered it. 812 01:03:41,429 --> 01:03:44,328 My participation was limited to policing the operation. 813 01:03:44,432 --> 01:03:47,102 - That will sound wonderful in court. - What court? 814 01:03:47,227 --> 01:03:49,375 There will be accounting. Charges will be made. 815 01:03:49,479 --> 01:03:51,585 - By you? - I'll recommend it in my report. 816 01:03:51,690 --> 01:03:54,004 Which I shall take to the DPP for him to decide. 817 01:03:54,109 --> 01:03:55,381 - It won't work. - What won't? 818 01:03:55,485 --> 01:03:57,571 Not at my expense, it won't. 819 01:03:57,821 --> 01:04:02,117 My God, you're catchin' the Irish disease. You're gettin' paranoid. 820 01:04:02,409 --> 01:04:05,224 If necessary, I'm prepared to resign over this... 821 01:04:05,328 --> 01:04:08,102 and start telling tales out of school. 822 01:04:08,206 --> 01:04:11,918 I don't think you will. You're a career officer like me. 823 01:04:13,003 --> 01:04:15,651 - I mean it. - You'd resign the force and go public? 824 01:04:15,755 --> 01:04:17,340 If I have to. 825 01:04:17,841 --> 01:04:21,678 Listen, we're both professionals. We observe certain rules. 826 01:04:21,886 --> 01:04:23,763 Then understand. 827 01:04:24,014 --> 01:04:25,661 Without access to that tape... 828 01:04:25,765 --> 01:04:28,873 it is impossible for me to evaluate the evidence. 829 01:04:28,977 --> 01:04:33,690 I'm afraid I can't help you there. I have neither seen nor heard that tape. 830 01:04:33,857 --> 01:04:37,986 And frankly, I don't want the burden. Now, if you will excuse me. 831 01:04:41,865 --> 01:04:43,450 Who's Harris? 832 01:04:45,035 --> 01:04:46,369 Harris? 833 01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:48,955 I've never heard of him. 834 01:04:53,627 --> 01:04:57,380 Ms. McKechnie, will you show Mr. Kerrigan out of my office, please? 835 01:05:12,604 --> 01:05:15,190 I wonder what Harris' connection with the Provos is? 836 01:05:15,482 --> 01:05:18,422 - Why do you think he has one? - Why else meet in an IRA club? 837 01:05:18,526 --> 01:05:20,716 - It's a Republican club. - Same difference. 838 01:05:20,820 --> 01:05:23,531 Not every Republican supports the IRA. 839 01:05:23,740 --> 01:05:27,181 Let's hope you're right. I could be putting my head in a noose. 840 01:05:27,285 --> 01:05:29,454 I don't think you have to worry. 841 01:05:29,579 --> 01:05:32,311 You can count on the IRA to be predictable. 842 01:05:32,415 --> 01:05:34,876 Yes. They shoot policemen. 843 01:05:53,770 --> 01:05:55,730 Did you lock the door? 844 01:06:19,588 --> 01:06:21,736 - Are you lookin' for someone? - Teresa Doyle. 845 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,029 - You have to be signed in by a member. - Pardon? 846 01:06:24,134 --> 01:06:28,200 - You have to be signed in by a member. - That's why I'm waiting for her to come. 847 01:06:28,305 --> 01:06:32,872 It's okay, Danny. I know these people. I take full responsibility for them. 848 01:06:32,976 --> 01:06:35,291 Welcome to the James Connolly Republican Club. 849 01:06:35,395 --> 01:06:38,377 I'm Liam Philbin, Sinn Fein rep for this area and club secretary. 850 01:06:38,481 --> 01:06:39,670 Ingrid Jessner. 851 01:06:39,774 --> 01:06:41,234 Hello. Peter Kerrigan. 852 01:06:42,068 --> 01:06:44,175 - Got here okay, then? - Yeah, fine, thanks. 853 01:06:44,279 --> 01:06:47,240 Would you like to buy a football ticket? Football ticket. 854 01:06:47,574 --> 01:06:48,929 Never misses a trick. 855 01:06:49,034 --> 01:06:51,453 - Fifty pence. - Four. 856 01:06:52,245 --> 01:06:53,288 Thank you. 857 01:06:55,290 --> 01:06:58,981 Congratulations. You've just contributed to a fund for Republican prisoners. 858 01:06:59,085 --> 01:07:00,024 Thank you very much. 859 01:07:00,128 --> 01:07:02,276 - Here's a present. - Down to you. 860 01:07:02,380 --> 01:07:04,820 - Shall we go in? - Sure. Is Teresa here? 861 01:07:04,925 --> 01:07:07,698 - No, Teresa got lifted on Monday. - Lifted? What for? 862 01:07:07,802 --> 01:07:10,347 Harassment. Happens all the time. 863 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,161 - Is she all right? - She's okay. 864 01:07:12,265 --> 01:07:14,872 - And the baby? - They're being looked after. 865 01:07:14,976 --> 01:07:17,103 "In the Maidstone and the Maze 866 01:07:17,312 --> 01:07:21,274 "I thought about my land throughout these days 867 01:07:22,067 --> 01:07:24,653 "Why my country was divided 868 01:07:24,945 --> 01:07:27,322 "Why I was now in jail 869 01:07:27,489 --> 01:07:31,243 "Imprisoned without crime or without trial 870 01:07:32,619 --> 01:07:37,332 "And now I love my country I am not a bitter man 871 01:07:37,582 --> 01:07:41,586 "I've seen cruelty and injustice at first hand 872 01:07:43,338 --> 01:07:48,093 "And then one fateful mornin' I shook bold freedom's hand 873 01:07:48,468 --> 01:07:51,721 "For right or wrong, I tried to free my land 874 01:07:53,181 --> 01:07:58,103 "And you dare call me a terrorist while you look down your gun 875 01:07:58,311 --> 01:08:02,065 "When I think of all the deeds that you have done 876 01:08:03,191 --> 01:08:07,988 "You have plundered many nations, divided many lands 877 01:08:08,238 --> 01:08:13,034 "You have terrorized their people You've ruled with an iron hand 878 01:08:13,201 --> 01:08:17,122 "And you've brought this reign of terror to my land 879 01:08:18,665 --> 01:08:23,378 "And you dare call me a terrorist while you look down your gun 880 01:08:23,753 --> 01:08:27,632 "When I think of all the deeds that you have done 881 01:08:28,717 --> 01:08:33,388 "You have plundered many nations, divided many lands 882 01:08:33,555 --> 01:08:38,476 "You have terrorized their people You've ruled with an iron hand 883 01:08:38,643 --> 01:08:42,689 "And you've brought this reign of terror to my land 884 01:08:44,190 --> 01:08:49,070 "You've brought this reign of terror to my land" 885 01:08:50,405 --> 01:08:51,865 Thank you. 886 01:08:58,079 --> 01:09:00,665 Jimmy here's gonna do the next one. 887 01:09:03,293 --> 01:09:05,941 On the wall, you see a picture of James Connolly... 888 01:09:06,046 --> 01:09:08,131 one of our greatest-ever Irish leaders. 889 01:09:08,256 --> 01:09:12,010 Connolly said, many years ago, that England has no more moral right... 890 01:09:12,260 --> 01:09:13,991 to administer Irish affairs... 891 01:09:14,095 --> 01:09:17,098 than it has to administer the affairs of America or Japan. 892 01:09:17,432 --> 01:09:21,540 No more moral right to police us than it has a moral right to shoot us. 893 01:09:21,645 --> 01:09:23,584 That is the answer: British withdrawal. 894 01:09:23,688 --> 01:09:25,106 That's the answer... 895 01:09:25,941 --> 01:09:29,632 but innocent people have been killed. 896 01:09:29,736 --> 01:09:33,469 Yes, innocent people have been killed and are being killed. 897 01:09:33,573 --> 01:09:36,388 But if you look at all the colonies, for instance, America. 898 01:09:36,493 --> 01:09:38,933 George Washington was called a terrorist in his time. 899 01:09:39,037 --> 01:09:43,145 Jomo Kenyatta was a terrorist. Archbishop Makarios was a terrorist. 900 01:09:43,250 --> 01:09:46,732 Unfortunately, colonies appear to have to fight for their freedom. 901 01:09:46,836 --> 01:09:49,568 It is never granted willingly. They must struggle for it. 902 01:09:49,673 --> 01:09:51,007 Liam... 903 01:09:51,466 --> 01:09:54,198 Do you know why Paul was with Mr. Molloy that morning? 904 01:09:54,302 --> 01:09:57,743 Yes. Molloy was taking him to meet Harris, in fact. 905 01:09:57,847 --> 01:09:59,933 - Where? - At a safe house. 906 01:10:00,308 --> 01:10:01,372 That you provided? 907 01:10:01,476 --> 01:10:05,230 - Yes. Our interests coincided. - In what way? 908 01:10:06,273 --> 01:10:08,858 Let's just say that our enemies became his enemies. 909 01:10:09,317 --> 01:10:11,111 Where is he, Liam? 910 01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:15,428 He's out the back here, waitin' for you. If you like, we'll go now and see him. 911 01:10:15,532 --> 01:10:17,784 - Yes. - Good, then. Come on. 912 01:10:24,791 --> 01:10:26,897 "Gloucester's crumbling pushed us westward 913 01:10:27,002 --> 01:10:30,276 "To liberate all the Irish Some of us that came to fight 914 01:10:30,380 --> 01:10:32,799 "From Tipperary mountainside" 915 01:10:36,970 --> 01:10:38,388 Here's your visitors now. 916 01:10:39,431 --> 01:10:42,246 - Thank you, Liam. - Okay. I'll leave you to it. 917 01:10:42,350 --> 01:10:43,602 Thank you. 918 01:10:44,311 --> 01:10:46,438 - Harris? - Yes. 919 01:10:47,564 --> 01:10:51,151 - How much has Liam told you? - Only that Molloy brought you here... 920 01:10:51,276 --> 01:10:54,258 and that you were sheltered by the IRA. 921 01:10:54,362 --> 01:10:57,782 - And you find that reprehensible? - For Molloy? No. 922 01:10:58,074 --> 01:10:59,847 No. He has his loyalties. 923 01:10:59,951 --> 01:11:04,080 But for you, an officer serving in the British Army, yes. 924 01:11:09,878 --> 01:11:12,651 I am terribly sorry about what happened. 925 01:11:12,756 --> 01:11:15,050 I really didn't think they'd go that far. 926 01:11:15,926 --> 01:11:18,261 Why did you want to see Paul? 927 01:11:18,553 --> 01:11:22,307 - I gave him a tape. Didn't you know that? - Not till later. 928 01:11:24,517 --> 01:11:26,165 Coming here could cost me my life. 929 01:11:26,269 --> 01:11:30,440 Mine, too, but unlike you, I don't have the IRA to protect me. 930 01:11:30,565 --> 01:11:32,776 I gave the IRA nothing. 931 01:11:49,918 --> 01:11:52,983 I was an Army Intelligence officer co-opted to work with Ml6... 932 01:11:53,088 --> 01:11:54,798 and Ml5 when they took over. 933 01:11:54,923 --> 01:11:56,299 PSYOPS. 934 01:11:56,758 --> 01:11:59,844 Our cover name was "Information Policy Unit". 935 01:12:00,345 --> 01:12:03,494 Our official function was to liaise with the press... 936 01:12:03,598 --> 01:12:06,643 and prepare public relations programs. 937 01:12:07,310 --> 01:12:08,937 And unofficial? 938 01:12:09,521 --> 01:12:11,335 We had our own printing press. 939 01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,026 We'd forge documents attributed to Republican sources. 940 01:12:15,318 --> 01:12:19,301 We'd provide material for the media: Newspapers, magazines, television. 941 01:12:19,406 --> 01:12:20,970 - Black propaganda? - Yes. 942 01:12:21,074 --> 01:12:23,076 What kind of material? 943 01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:26,350 Whatever we thought was necessary. 944 01:12:26,454 --> 01:12:29,791 We'd invent stories, leak truths, leak lies... 945 01:12:30,292 --> 01:12:31,501 leak half-truths. 946 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,379 Accountable to the politicians. 947 01:12:36,172 --> 01:12:38,800 Let us get one thing straight, Kerrigan. 948 01:12:39,009 --> 01:12:41,157 We were accountable to no one. 949 01:12:41,261 --> 01:12:45,327 The Prime Minister, Parliament, the courts, the great British public... 950 01:12:45,432 --> 01:12:49,352 It made no difference. They were all there to be manipulated. 951 01:12:49,519 --> 01:12:53,607 - And that didn't bother you? - Not against the IRA, it didn't. 952 01:12:54,608 --> 01:12:57,652 But during the election of '74... 953 01:12:59,154 --> 01:13:01,927 our work became increasingly political. 954 01:13:02,032 --> 01:13:04,054 Ml5 were running things. 955 01:13:04,159 --> 01:13:06,369 Our long-term objectives were abandoned. 956 01:13:06,536 --> 01:13:10,123 The new emphasis was on assassination teams, bounty hunters. 957 01:13:10,582 --> 01:13:13,168 But the PSYOPS unit continued to operate? 958 01:13:13,418 --> 01:13:15,879 Yes, but with fresh targets. 959 01:13:16,963 --> 01:13:20,863 During the '70s, the Conservative Party was demoralized and divided. 960 01:13:20,967 --> 01:13:22,948 They saw their party leader, Edward Heath... 961 01:13:23,053 --> 01:13:26,410 cave in against the miners' strike of '74 and were searching for... 962 01:13:26,514 --> 01:13:29,184 a new leader from the hard right. 963 01:13:31,603 --> 01:13:34,856 We circulated stories about his private life. 964 01:13:35,565 --> 01:13:36,650 Heath was dumped. 965 01:13:36,900 --> 01:13:39,027 And replaced by Thatcher. 966 01:13:39,194 --> 01:13:41,217 Yeah, but that wasn't enough. 967 01:13:41,321 --> 01:13:43,928 There was concern amongst business and the military... 968 01:13:44,032 --> 01:13:46,514 that Labour were heading for a third term in office. 969 01:13:46,618 --> 01:13:49,100 The moderates would be replaced by the left-wingers... 970 01:13:49,204 --> 01:13:52,686 who, in turn, would be opposed to NATO and nuclear weapons. 971 01:13:52,791 --> 01:13:57,128 Remember, inflation was running rife, industry was crippled by strikes. 972 01:13:57,462 --> 01:13:59,610 What is this leading up to? 973 01:13:59,714 --> 01:14:01,466 Treason, Mr. Kerrigan. 974 01:14:02,384 --> 01:14:05,699 Pressure came from the CIA to get rid of the Labour government. 975 01:14:05,804 --> 01:14:06,846 Jesus. 976 01:14:07,222 --> 01:14:10,413 They fed information to Ml5 that Prime Minister Wilson... 977 01:14:10,517 --> 01:14:12,519 was a KGB agent. 978 01:14:12,894 --> 01:14:15,689 It was a joint CIA-Ml5 operation... 979 01:14:16,147 --> 01:14:18,191 supported by others in Whitehall. 980 01:14:18,650 --> 01:14:21,695 Yeah, the whole bag of dirty tricks was used: 981 01:14:22,612 --> 01:14:27,158 Smears, break-ins, burglaries, phone-tapping, blackmail, disinformation. 982 01:14:31,580 --> 01:14:34,854 - If what you say is true... - It all landed on my desk. 983 01:14:34,958 --> 01:14:38,044 - And you believed it? - I did when it was used by Alec Nevin... 984 01:14:38,587 --> 01:14:41,318 the future Prime Minister's closest political ally... 985 01:14:41,423 --> 01:14:45,072 the principal architect of her victory over Edward Heath. 986 01:14:45,176 --> 01:14:48,471 You're saying that Thatcher was involved in this? 987 01:14:50,849 --> 01:14:53,852 No, but she was the main beneficiary. 988 01:14:55,937 --> 01:15:00,379 The files and documents I got from Ml5 I turned into articles and essays... 989 01:15:00,483 --> 01:15:02,444 for selected journalists... 990 01:15:02,736 --> 01:15:04,821 and speeches for Alec Nevin. 991 01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,952 - Why should I believe you? - Because it's all on the tape. 992 01:15:11,620 --> 01:15:14,101 Why else do you think they tried to get rid of me? 993 01:15:14,205 --> 01:15:16,687 If this comes out, with Nevin's explicit connections... 994 01:15:16,791 --> 01:15:19,690 to the Prime Minister, the spotlight falls on Number 10. 995 01:15:19,794 --> 01:15:23,006 - That's why his name is on the list. - What list? 996 01:15:23,381 --> 01:15:25,759 Paul made a list of six names. 997 01:15:28,553 --> 01:15:31,368 - Do you have them with you? - I took them. 998 01:15:31,473 --> 01:15:34,121 Then I suggest you study that list very carefully. 999 01:15:34,225 --> 01:15:36,811 - Why? - Because they are the prime movers... 1000 01:15:37,354 --> 01:15:41,087 Nevin's ideological counterparts in business, industry, the military. 1001 01:15:41,191 --> 01:15:43,130 Together they form the nucleus. 1002 01:15:43,235 --> 01:15:45,382 Their priority was to wreck Labour's chances 1003 01:15:45,487 --> 01:15:47,134 of winning another general election... 1004 01:15:47,239 --> 01:15:49,804 and if necessary, were prepared to go even further. 1005 01:15:49,908 --> 01:15:52,389 You want wrapping up in a blanket. 1006 01:15:52,494 --> 01:15:56,060 Paul knew this. He heard the tape. He had the tape. 1007 01:15:56,164 --> 01:15:58,771 - That's why they murdered him. - I think you're insane. 1008 01:15:58,875 --> 01:15:59,897 I can prove it. 1009 01:16:00,001 --> 01:16:03,546 - Why would he lie? - I don't know: Guilt, pressure... 1010 01:16:05,507 --> 01:16:07,113 acute paranoia. 1011 01:16:07,217 --> 01:16:09,365 - I'm as sane as you are. - And I believe him. 1012 01:16:09,469 --> 01:16:11,409 It couldn't happen. 1013 01:16:11,513 --> 01:16:12,847 It did. 1014 01:16:24,901 --> 01:16:26,903 Why didn't you resign? 1015 01:16:30,865 --> 01:16:32,909 I was a career officer. 1016 01:16:34,119 --> 01:16:37,038 One hoped that the situation would change. 1017 01:16:38,206 --> 01:16:41,126 But I also saw what happened to people in a similar position. 1018 01:16:41,585 --> 01:16:43,336 Good men ruined. 1019 01:16:43,461 --> 01:16:45,088 So you went along with it? 1020 01:16:45,672 --> 01:16:46,840 No. 1021 01:16:47,424 --> 01:16:51,636 I asked questions about it. At first, they were very understanding. 1022 01:16:51,845 --> 01:16:55,619 They said I was suffering from stress, mental fatigue, physical exhaustion. 1023 01:16:55,724 --> 01:16:57,913 That I needed a break from Northern Ireland. 1024 01:16:58,018 --> 01:16:59,790 So they sent me to the mainland... 1025 01:16:59,894 --> 01:17:03,231 as an instructor to the School of Intelligence. 1026 01:17:06,026 --> 01:17:08,612 In late '77, I was posted back here. 1027 01:17:10,530 --> 01:17:14,451 - How did they find out about this tape? - Because I behaved stupidly. 1028 01:17:14,784 --> 01:17:17,808 Instead of keeping my head down, I had a row about it all. 1029 01:17:17,913 --> 01:17:20,394 Consequently, I was put under close surveillance. 1030 01:17:20,498 --> 01:17:23,147 Mail was opened, phones were tapped. 1031 01:17:23,251 --> 01:17:26,025 They searched my room and found a backup copy of the tape... 1032 01:17:26,129 --> 01:17:28,089 stitched in the lining of my beret. 1033 01:17:28,256 --> 01:17:31,009 So I took the original tape and ran. 1034 01:17:32,260 --> 01:17:33,595 Still running. 1035 01:17:35,430 --> 01:17:37,641 You say you have this tape? 1036 01:17:38,725 --> 01:17:43,563 It's all there: Names, dates. I bugged their meetings. 1037 01:17:43,813 --> 01:17:45,669 I wanted Sullivan to publicize it. 1038 01:17:45,774 --> 01:17:48,255 Being an American citizen and a civil rights lawyer... 1039 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:49,840 I thought he was beyond reach. 1040 01:17:49,945 --> 01:17:51,571 You were wrong. 1041 01:17:53,949 --> 01:17:57,556 I'm afraid media exposure is the only protection I have. 1042 01:17:57,661 --> 01:17:59,204 Do you have it with you? 1043 01:18:01,665 --> 01:18:03,708 I have certain demands. 1044 01:18:04,084 --> 01:18:05,064 What demands? 1045 01:18:05,168 --> 01:18:08,275 When I deliver the tape, I want to be taken into protective custody. 1046 01:18:08,380 --> 01:18:11,195 And I want you, Ms. Jessner, to make it public. 1047 01:18:11,299 --> 01:18:13,364 - Agreed. - I can't do that. 1048 01:18:13,468 --> 01:18:14,844 Why not? 1049 01:18:15,637 --> 01:18:19,599 Because he's not under my authority. He's military personnel. 1050 01:18:19,766 --> 01:18:23,541 You were brought here to investigate Paul Sullivan's death. 1051 01:18:23,645 --> 01:18:26,398 He was murdered because of that tape. 1052 01:18:28,525 --> 01:18:31,486 - Where is it? - Do I have your agreement? 1053 01:18:34,739 --> 01:18:35,949 Yes. 1054 01:18:39,452 --> 01:18:40,787 Dublin. 1055 01:18:41,162 --> 01:18:43,102 The IRA found me a safe house. 1056 01:18:43,206 --> 01:18:45,646 They're hoping I'll come to a prearranged meeting... 1057 01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:47,565 and denounce British imperialism. 1058 01:18:47,669 --> 01:18:50,109 - When can we have it? - You'll have to come to Dublin. 1059 01:18:50,213 --> 01:18:52,111 - When? - Day after tomorrow. 1060 01:18:52,215 --> 01:18:53,508 Where? 1061 01:18:55,510 --> 01:18:58,471 - O'Connell Bridge, 11:00 a.m. - We'll be there. 1062 01:19:02,642 --> 01:19:04,269 One last thing. 1063 01:19:04,978 --> 01:19:06,730 Nevin has a man working for him. 1064 01:19:06,855 --> 01:19:10,066 His name is McKee, a former member of the SAS. 1065 01:19:11,192 --> 01:19:14,029 - Look out for him. - What's he look like? 1066 01:19:14,946 --> 01:19:18,116 Big man, tall, bland face, thinning hair. 1067 01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,162 He's quite ruthless, capable of anything. 1068 01:19:39,721 --> 01:19:43,245 Am I wrong, Mr. Kerrigan, or is it illegal to kill people... 1069 01:19:43,350 --> 01:19:44,914 and try to steal a country? 1070 01:19:45,018 --> 01:19:48,813 Don't assume it happened just because Harris said it did. 1071 01:19:49,147 --> 01:19:52,171 Paul's dead! Molloy's dead! That happened. 1072 01:19:52,275 --> 01:19:55,320 Save your outrage till we've heard the tape. 1073 01:19:59,991 --> 01:20:02,223 - Good evening, love. - Good evening, sir. 1074 01:20:02,327 --> 01:20:03,328 Thank you. 1075 01:20:03,870 --> 01:20:06,998 - Have you seen Mr. Maxwell? - He's in the bar, sir. 1076 01:20:16,675 --> 01:20:19,761 - How'd it go? - It was interesting. 1077 01:20:20,262 --> 01:20:21,659 Did you see Harris? 1078 01:20:21,763 --> 01:20:23,890 Yes. He didn't have the tape. 1079 01:20:24,474 --> 01:20:26,726 You've had a call from Ml5. 1080 01:20:26,977 --> 01:20:28,937 The spook department? 1081 01:20:29,813 --> 01:20:32,065 - Who? - Sir Robert Neil. 1082 01:20:32,274 --> 01:20:36,570 He wants to meet you for lunch tomorrow. He's sending his car at 12:00. 1083 01:20:39,698 --> 01:20:42,617 - Time for a drink? - No. I've had enough. 1084 01:20:43,451 --> 01:20:45,412 You two okay? 1085 01:20:46,496 --> 01:20:49,165 - Yes, thank you, Mr. Kerrigan. - Fine. 1086 01:20:50,250 --> 01:20:53,169 - Mind how you go. - See you in the morning. 1087 01:21:20,488 --> 01:21:23,491 - Good morning, Mr. Kerrigan. - Good morning. 1088 01:21:28,413 --> 01:21:30,060 - Come in, Mr. Kerrigan. - Sir Robert. 1089 01:21:30,165 --> 01:21:32,292 Marvelous day. This way. 1090 01:21:39,591 --> 01:21:40,926 Do you know Alec Nevin? 1091 01:21:41,801 --> 01:21:44,241 No, I don't believe we've met. 1092 01:21:44,346 --> 01:21:47,203 I'm delighted to meet you. I've heard a great deal about you. 1093 01:21:47,307 --> 01:21:48,934 How do you do? 1094 01:21:49,184 --> 01:21:52,187 - Sherry? - No, thank you. 1095 01:22:09,287 --> 01:22:11,831 You've got your coffee, have you? 1096 01:22:12,749 --> 01:22:17,295 So, Mr. Kerrigan, how has your inquiry progressed? 1097 01:22:19,214 --> 01:22:21,904 Sullivan and Molloy were killed because of a tape. 1098 01:22:22,008 --> 01:22:23,510 What tape? 1099 01:22:23,969 --> 01:22:25,408 According to a Capt. Harris... 1100 01:22:25,512 --> 01:22:27,493 - You've met him? - Last night. 1101 01:22:27,597 --> 01:22:29,015 Go on. 1102 01:22:30,267 --> 01:22:33,395 - Your name surfaced, Mr. Nevin. - Really? 1103 01:22:35,563 --> 01:22:39,130 He claims that he possesses a tape which will prove that you and others... 1104 01:22:39,234 --> 01:22:42,821 conspired to destabilize the last Labour government. 1105 01:22:44,239 --> 01:22:47,054 He says he gave a copy of this tape to Paul Sullivan... 1106 01:22:47,158 --> 01:22:50,412 hoping he would publicize it, and that's why Sullivan was killed. 1107 01:22:50,787 --> 01:22:55,458 - You've not heard the tape then? - Not yet, but I will. 1108 01:22:56,084 --> 01:22:59,296 - You're seeing Harris again? - I can't tell you. 1109 01:23:00,839 --> 01:23:03,779 Although he was strictly Army, Harris worked for me. 1110 01:23:03,883 --> 01:23:05,885 Yes, I know. 1111 01:23:07,762 --> 01:23:11,933 - He was rather good at what he did. - He was a traitorous bastard. 1112 01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:13,998 When I arrived just now... 1113 01:23:14,102 --> 01:23:17,918 there was a man who greeted me at the car: Tall, thinning hair. 1114 01:23:18,023 --> 01:23:20,880 - What about him? - I might want to question him. 1115 01:23:20,984 --> 01:23:23,674 After the tape was taken from Sullivan's body... 1116 01:23:23,778 --> 01:23:26,677 the police gave it to someone answering his description. 1117 01:23:26,781 --> 01:23:30,681 I have four witnesses to identify him. Did he give the tape to you? 1118 01:23:30,785 --> 01:23:34,205 - Are you interrogating me? - Are you obstructing me? 1119 01:23:36,541 --> 01:23:41,129 If you let me listen to that tape, I can eliminate Harris from my inquiry. 1120 01:23:42,047 --> 01:23:43,673 You have no choice, Alec. 1121 01:23:44,674 --> 01:23:47,928 Do you remember the disorders of the 1970s... 1122 01:23:48,637 --> 01:23:50,034 Mr. Kerrigan? 1123 01:23:50,138 --> 01:23:52,349 The kind of chaos we faced... 1124 01:23:52,724 --> 01:23:54,893 strikes, riots... 1125 01:23:55,685 --> 01:23:58,918 miners bringing down a Conservative government... 1126 01:23:59,022 --> 01:24:03,214 inflation going through the roof, our European creditors... 1127 01:24:03,318 --> 01:24:05,111 queuing up to pounce on us? 1128 01:24:05,528 --> 01:24:08,448 How Europe enjoyed our discomfiture. 1129 01:24:10,283 --> 01:24:12,953 Instead of just letting it happen... 1130 01:24:14,204 --> 01:24:17,707 a few of us got together to do something about it. 1131 01:24:17,999 --> 01:24:20,794 So there was a conspiracy. 1132 01:24:21,378 --> 01:24:25,986 - My dear chap, politics is a conspiracy. - The point is, our paths converge. 1133 01:24:26,091 --> 01:24:28,739 - In what way? - We both serve the state. 1134 01:24:28,843 --> 01:24:31,554 No, I defend the state. 1135 01:24:32,264 --> 01:24:33,911 You subvert it. 1136 01:24:34,015 --> 01:24:37,102 All right, let's be frank with one another. 1137 01:24:37,727 --> 01:24:42,440 Illegal methods were used in an attempt to bring down the Labour government. 1138 01:24:42,565 --> 01:24:44,859 But that's all in the past. 1139 01:24:44,985 --> 01:24:48,008 Do you think by scrutinizing mistakes made... 1140 01:24:48,113 --> 01:24:51,408 you'll help restore respect for law and order? 1141 01:24:53,118 --> 01:24:56,037 Don't play hide and seek with reality, Mr. Kerrigan. 1142 01:24:56,746 --> 01:25:00,375 If you want to see the release of that tape, and its contents made public... 1143 01:25:00,667 --> 01:25:02,106 go right ahead. 1144 01:25:02,210 --> 01:25:04,462 But first, consider the consequences. 1145 01:25:04,963 --> 01:25:07,653 Every agitator, every intellectual... 1146 01:25:07,757 --> 01:25:11,115 every bleeding-heart liberal with his rhetoric about civil rights... 1147 01:25:11,219 --> 01:25:12,950 will seize on it. 1148 01:25:13,054 --> 01:25:15,640 Now, you say you defend the state. 1149 01:25:16,308 --> 01:25:17,350 So do I. 1150 01:25:17,976 --> 01:25:21,313 But Parliament and its institutions are the state. 1151 01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:24,357 And anything that threatens the government... 1152 01:25:24,733 --> 01:25:28,153 the rule of law, the credibility of Parliament... 1153 01:25:28,403 --> 01:25:30,697 is a threat to the state. 1154 01:25:31,406 --> 01:25:33,825 Leave well alone, Mr. Kerrigan. 1155 01:25:33,950 --> 01:25:37,245 Let the historians discover it in 50 years' time. 1156 01:25:38,622 --> 01:25:41,937 - Our duty is to protect Number 10. - It wouldn't be published anyway. 1157 01:25:42,042 --> 01:25:44,857 Strictly speaking, it's none of your concern. 1158 01:25:44,961 --> 01:25:47,443 It's an intelligence matter, outside your jurisdiction. 1159 01:25:47,547 --> 01:25:49,612 - I don't accept that. - Accept this... 1160 01:25:49,716 --> 01:25:53,157 What Alec and the others did eight years ago was terribly wrong. 1161 01:25:53,261 --> 01:25:56,494 It wasn't just terribly wrong. It was criminal. 1162 01:25:56,598 --> 01:25:59,121 It was wrong for the right reasons. 1163 01:25:59,225 --> 01:26:02,583 These were, and still are, honorable men. 1164 01:26:02,687 --> 01:26:05,649 - They broke the law. - We've agreed on that. 1165 01:26:06,149 --> 01:26:08,839 But tell me, as a professional policeman... 1166 01:26:08,944 --> 01:26:13,052 don't you find that hardened criminals often benefit from the restraints... 1167 01:26:13,156 --> 01:26:15,763 imposed on the police by the courts? 1168 01:26:15,867 --> 01:26:17,181 Absolutely, yes. 1169 01:26:17,285 --> 01:26:22,082 And when, to secure a conviction, the police remove those constraints... 1170 01:26:22,457 --> 01:26:25,689 when, for example, they illegally tap a phone... 1171 01:26:25,794 --> 01:26:30,382 to apprehend political terrorists whose aim is to overthrow democracy... 1172 01:26:31,466 --> 01:26:33,510 is this ever justified? 1173 01:26:34,177 --> 01:26:36,179 It depends on the circumstances. 1174 01:26:36,638 --> 01:26:38,723 Let's be more specific. 1175 01:26:39,140 --> 01:26:42,269 In 1974, the IRA blew up a Birmingham pub. 1176 01:26:42,894 --> 01:26:46,648 21 young people were killed. 162 were injured. 1177 01:26:47,649 --> 01:26:52,112 The police, your colleagues, arrested six Irishmen. 1178 01:26:53,363 --> 01:26:56,470 They were subjected to what is euphemistically referred to... 1179 01:26:56,575 --> 01:26:58,368 as "in-depth interrogation". 1180 01:26:58,827 --> 01:27:01,058 They kicked the hell out of the murdering swine. 1181 01:27:01,162 --> 01:27:04,624 - And obtained a confession. - Which held up in court. 1182 01:27:05,125 --> 01:27:06,960 Was that justified? 1183 01:27:07,210 --> 01:27:09,942 If they did that, then they were out of order. 1184 01:27:10,046 --> 01:27:11,902 Tell that to the people of Birmingham. 1185 01:27:12,007 --> 01:27:13,821 The point I'm trying to make... 1186 01:27:13,925 --> 01:27:17,241 I understand the point you're trying to make, Sir Robert. 1187 01:27:17,345 --> 01:27:21,141 That to maintain the system, the abuse of power is sometimes necessary. 1188 01:27:21,266 --> 01:27:22,475 Yes. 1189 01:27:22,892 --> 01:27:26,855 It allows us to enjoy the freedom of living in a free society. 1190 01:27:27,897 --> 01:27:30,734 A price the public are prepared to pay. 1191 01:27:31,318 --> 01:27:33,528 That's a dangerous concept. 1192 01:27:33,737 --> 01:27:35,697 But a realistic one. 1193 01:27:38,783 --> 01:27:41,015 You're forgetting one thing. 1194 01:27:41,119 --> 01:27:43,601 What's to stop Harris from making copies of the tape? 1195 01:27:43,705 --> 01:27:48,397 Nothing at all, except without Harris, there's no authenticity, no documentation. 1196 01:27:48,501 --> 01:27:51,546 Everyone would think it was an IRA fake. 1197 01:27:53,340 --> 01:27:55,008 And my investigation? 1198 01:27:55,967 --> 01:27:59,638 I have a solution that is both effective and acceptable. 1199 01:28:00,055 --> 01:28:03,141 You have the culprits that did the shooting. 1200 01:28:03,808 --> 01:28:05,268 Nail them. 1201 01:28:13,944 --> 01:28:16,238 It really is a gorgeous day. 1202 01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:20,867 You know, Ireland would be a lovely place if it wasn't for the Irish. 1203 01:28:24,996 --> 01:28:27,916 Was Ms. Jessner with you when you met Harris? 1204 01:28:28,124 --> 01:28:29,209 Yes. 1205 01:28:29,751 --> 01:28:32,629 I wonder why Harris chose Paul Sullivan. 1206 01:28:35,257 --> 01:28:38,656 Did you know, before she met him, she lived with a Communist? 1207 01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,325 - No, I didn't. - It was all rather sad. 1208 01:28:41,429 --> 01:28:43,932 A Chilean. She had an abortion. 1209 01:28:46,935 --> 01:28:49,729 There is something I want to show you. 1210 01:28:54,985 --> 01:28:57,362 Not very pleasant, I'm afraid. 1211 01:29:03,076 --> 01:29:06,746 Liam Philbin. Served seven years in H-Block. 1212 01:29:07,247 --> 01:29:09,749 Suspected of murdering two policemen. 1213 01:29:10,834 --> 01:29:13,983 That's you making a contribution to IRA funds... 1214 01:29:14,087 --> 01:29:16,256 unintentionally, of course. 1215 01:29:18,717 --> 01:29:20,969 These make my stomach turn. 1216 01:29:24,389 --> 01:29:27,934 Alec wanted to turn them over to his newspaper friends. 1217 01:29:28,059 --> 01:29:30,145 I persuaded him not to. 1218 01:29:30,645 --> 01:29:33,690 Apart from the damage it could do to your career... 1219 01:29:34,774 --> 01:29:37,527 I'm a family man myself, Mr. Kerrigan. 1220 01:29:38,236 --> 01:29:42,198 I know the harm this sort of thing can do to a happy marriage. 1221 01:29:43,199 --> 01:29:44,659 Take them. 1222 01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:46,578 Who keeps the negatives? 1223 01:29:47,662 --> 01:29:49,414 Alec keeps them. 1224 01:29:52,751 --> 01:29:54,169 Fuck you. 1225 01:29:57,631 --> 01:30:00,133 First, they threw the book at me. 1226 01:30:00,508 --> 01:30:02,281 Not in the national interest. 1227 01:30:02,385 --> 01:30:04,054 Violation of security. 1228 01:30:04,471 --> 01:30:05,639 Then... 1229 01:30:07,682 --> 01:30:11,019 this infantile, laughable comic-book stuff. 1230 01:30:13,438 --> 01:30:15,857 Don't underestimate it, Peter. 1231 01:30:17,525 --> 01:30:21,905 I've been a policeman for 26 years. I've never met anything like this. 1232 01:30:25,492 --> 01:30:28,140 If you go to Dublin, see him, get the tape. 1233 01:30:28,245 --> 01:30:30,684 Neil would argue it was used for intelligence... 1234 01:30:30,789 --> 01:30:34,542 and that it couldn't be admitted in court as evidence. 1235 01:30:36,086 --> 01:30:38,234 So what are we left with? 1236 01:30:38,338 --> 01:30:39,360 The shooting. 1237 01:30:39,464 --> 01:30:41,570 Which is flameproof. We have the statements... 1238 01:30:41,675 --> 01:30:43,885 Which we can make stick... 1239 01:30:44,594 --> 01:30:47,451 provided we make no references to the tape. 1240 01:30:47,555 --> 01:30:49,808 Concession offered by Neil. 1241 01:30:54,187 --> 01:30:55,480 Jesus. 1242 01:30:56,898 --> 01:30:58,900 What does that make me? 1243 01:31:01,069 --> 01:31:04,051 I came here as the cop that couldn't be bought. 1244 01:31:04,155 --> 01:31:07,867 - Nobody bought you. - I've been manipulated from day one... 1245 01:31:08,785 --> 01:31:10,870 put through the hoop. 1246 01:31:17,085 --> 01:31:21,047 What happens if I choose to take this to the limit... 1247 01:31:23,675 --> 01:31:25,677 to the powers that be? 1248 01:31:26,928 --> 01:31:29,055 What support would I get? 1249 01:31:30,557 --> 01:31:32,017 Too risky. 1250 01:31:32,726 --> 01:31:35,875 You blow the whistle, when the shouting stopped... 1251 01:31:35,979 --> 01:31:38,502 they reach an accommodation... 1252 01:31:38,607 --> 01:31:40,483 you're finished. 1253 01:31:42,235 --> 01:31:44,738 You know, Tom, I think I am naive. 1254 01:31:45,447 --> 01:31:46,385 I've always believed... 1255 01:31:46,489 --> 01:31:49,346 that given half a chance, the system would work. 1256 01:31:49,451 --> 01:31:52,183 Look, we've got the men who did the shooting. 1257 01:31:52,287 --> 01:31:54,831 - Everything I've stood for... - Our job's done. 1258 01:31:54,956 --> 01:31:56,082 No. 1259 01:31:57,125 --> 01:31:59,002 That's unacceptable. 1260 01:32:00,795 --> 01:32:04,132 I walk away from this, it's a lifetime wasted. 1261 01:32:06,593 --> 01:32:07,907 They want this thing buried... 1262 01:32:08,011 --> 01:32:10,534 and if necessary, they will bury you alongside it. 1263 01:32:10,639 --> 01:32:13,746 - But there was a conspiracy. - What proof have we got? 1264 01:32:13,850 --> 01:32:16,394 - Neil admitted it. - He'll deny it. 1265 01:32:16,937 --> 01:32:19,773 That conversation never took place. 1266 01:32:23,151 --> 01:32:25,487 Turn your back on this, Peter. 1267 01:32:30,158 --> 01:32:33,078 What about Ingrid Jessner? What about her? 1268 01:32:33,245 --> 01:32:34,996 Not your problem. 1269 01:32:35,747 --> 01:32:39,480 This is all politics. We have the men that did the shooting. 1270 01:32:39,584 --> 01:32:41,816 Are you willing to settle for that? 1271 01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:43,797 What else is there? 1272 01:32:44,506 --> 01:32:45,966 And if I persist? 1273 01:32:47,050 --> 01:32:49,719 Then you're on a hiding to nothing. 1274 01:32:51,179 --> 01:32:52,806 What about you? 1275 01:32:54,015 --> 01:32:56,643 - I'm a career policeman. - So was I. 1276 01:33:01,231 --> 01:33:03,024 I'm sorry, Peter. 1277 01:33:03,316 --> 01:33:06,528 I'm not prepared to risk my future, not in this. 1278 01:33:10,991 --> 01:33:12,492 Thanks, Tom. 1279 01:33:13,785 --> 01:33:16,037 You've just proved my point. 1280 01:34:18,016 --> 01:34:20,998 Listen, if a Mr. Kerrigan calls, will you tell him I've left? 1281 01:34:21,102 --> 01:34:23,188 - Yes, certainly. - Thanks. 1282 01:34:23,605 --> 01:34:26,337 Ms. Jessner? I'm Mr. Kerrigan's secretary. 1283 01:34:26,441 --> 01:34:28,777 He asked me to give you that. 1284 01:34:43,625 --> 01:34:45,126 Any message? 1285 01:34:45,669 --> 01:34:48,755 - When's his flight? - Mid-afternoon, I expect. 1286 01:34:50,423 --> 01:34:51,758 Thanks. 1287 01:35:08,191 --> 01:35:10,068 Echo 1 to Control. 1288 01:35:10,443 --> 01:35:13,613 - Go ahead, Echo 1. - We're on the Dublin Road. 1289 01:35:15,073 --> 01:35:17,158 Are the others in place? 1290 01:35:18,535 --> 01:35:19,744 Yes. 1291 01:35:20,328 --> 01:35:22,289 Signing off now, Control. 1292 01:35:23,164 --> 01:35:26,063 Give it another minute, then overtake her quite quickly. 1293 01:35:26,167 --> 01:35:28,378 I want to get ahead of her. 1294 01:35:42,058 --> 01:35:43,643 Come in, Echo 2. 1295 01:35:44,019 --> 01:35:45,145 Echo 2. 1296 01:35:45,854 --> 01:35:50,254 - Is everything all right, Echo 2? - Yes, she's about 200 yards in front of me. 1297 01:35:50,358 --> 01:35:53,299 In a little while you'll see a petrol station on your left. 1298 01:35:53,403 --> 01:35:56,364 You pull in, and I'll take up the follow. 1299 01:36:45,914 --> 01:36:47,374 Echo 2... 1300 01:36:48,083 --> 01:36:49,647 she's making for the bridge. 1301 01:36:49,751 --> 01:36:51,732 I'm having trouble gettin' through this lot. 1302 01:36:51,836 --> 01:36:53,338 Bang your fucking horn, man! 1303 01:37:17,737 --> 01:37:19,385 - Where's Kerrigan? - I don't know. 1304 01:37:19,489 --> 01:37:22,054 - That's no answer. - I know, I don't know where he is. 1305 01:37:22,158 --> 01:37:23,660 Let's walk. 1306 01:37:26,663 --> 01:37:29,666 - You'll see that it's published? - I'll try. 1307 01:37:32,335 --> 01:37:34,129 Don't let me down. 1308 01:37:34,921 --> 01:37:36,298 Trust me. 1309 01:37:36,590 --> 01:37:37,591 I do. 1310 01:38:24,638 --> 01:38:26,264 Where to, love? 1311 01:38:28,016 --> 01:38:30,664 - I have to hire a car. - You want a car-hire place? 1312 01:38:30,769 --> 01:38:33,084 - Yeah. - Which one in particular do you want? 1313 01:38:33,188 --> 01:38:36,253 - Any one in particular? - No. It doesn't matter. You decide. 1314 01:38:36,358 --> 01:38:39,840 Do you want an expensive car or a cheap car? 1315 01:38:39,945 --> 01:38:41,425 It doesn't matter. I don't care. 1316 01:38:41,529 --> 01:38:44,804 Look, I've had Americans before. I just want to know what type car... 1317 01:38:44,908 --> 01:38:45,992 Just go. 1318 01:38:46,701 --> 01:38:48,015 It doesn't matter! Just go! 1319 01:38:48,119 --> 01:38:50,810 Okay. There's a friend of mine over at one place. 1320 01:38:50,914 --> 01:38:53,145 - Fine. - I'll bring you there, will I? 1321 01:38:53,250 --> 01:38:54,376 Fine. Great. 1322 01:39:06,388 --> 01:39:09,036 What you will hear on this tape is a conversation... 1323 01:39:09,140 --> 01:39:11,622 which took place at the home of Mr. Alec Nevin. 1324 01:39:11,726 --> 01:39:14,417 Its purpose was to establish a Conservative government... 1325 01:39:14,521 --> 01:39:17,753 with a right-wing leadership. I had shown support... 1326 01:39:17,857 --> 01:39:20,318 and therefore was invited to attend the meeting. 1327 01:39:20,527 --> 01:39:23,530 I wore a recording device activated by voice. 1328 01:39:25,615 --> 01:39:29,077 Letting people off the leash a bit, in that direction... 1329 01:39:29,744 --> 01:39:33,436 the military and our friends in the intelligence community... 1330 01:39:33,540 --> 01:39:37,815 is really enhancing the case for quite dramatic... 1331 01:39:37,919 --> 01:39:41,068 constitutional resolution of this crisis... 1332 01:39:41,172 --> 01:39:43,320 Indeed. Don't underestimate the flexibility... 1333 01:39:43,425 --> 01:39:47,324 We need to pressure the Palace into giving legitimacy to what we need to do. 1334 01:39:47,429 --> 01:39:50,119 Indeed. You underestimate, we all underestimate... 1335 01:39:50,223 --> 01:39:54,686 the flexibility of this constitution of ours. We can do almost anything. 1336 01:39:55,020 --> 01:39:57,647 What are his weaknesses? 1337 01:39:58,315 --> 01:40:00,609 What can we have circulated? 1338 01:40:01,735 --> 01:40:04,905 And what rumors can we make stick? 1339 01:40:05,238 --> 01:40:09,180 We all know about Heath. We all know what we think about him. 1340 01:40:09,284 --> 01:40:13,204 We should look to 5 to... 1341 01:40:13,997 --> 01:40:15,457 assist in this matter. 1342 01:40:16,458 --> 01:40:19,502 Can you try Ms. Jessner's room again, please? 1343 01:40:23,715 --> 01:40:25,592 Have you paged her? 1344 01:40:27,469 --> 01:40:29,846 No. No message. Thanks. 1345 01:40:31,222 --> 01:40:34,100 - I don't suppose we'll be needing this? - What's that? 1346 01:40:34,267 --> 01:40:37,708 It's the dossier you asked me to prepare on those six names. 1347 01:40:37,812 --> 01:40:39,147 Thanks. 1348 01:40:40,732 --> 01:40:42,192 Insurance. 1349 01:40:42,567 --> 01:40:46,488 - Shall I take the luggage down now, sir? - Please do. 1350 01:41:01,336 --> 01:41:03,213 It isn't your fault. 1351 01:41:05,882 --> 01:41:08,093 They must have followed her. 1352 01:41:09,761 --> 01:41:12,722 I'll pick up the rest of this stuff later. 1353 01:41:14,391 --> 01:41:17,519 - You know about Harris? - I heard on the radio. 1354 01:41:18,144 --> 01:41:20,751 They kneecapped him, then they blew half his head away. 1355 01:41:20,855 --> 01:41:22,607 Typical IRA execution. 1356 01:41:28,655 --> 01:41:30,719 - What about Ingrid Jessner? - What about her? 1357 01:41:30,824 --> 01:41:32,888 - You know, if this thing leaks out... - It won't. 1358 01:41:32,993 --> 01:41:34,869 A crime has been committed. 1359 01:41:35,870 --> 01:41:38,686 - What crime is that? - I'm not just talkin' about Harris. 1360 01:41:38,790 --> 01:41:41,251 Everything is covered by the Official Secrets Act. 1361 01:41:41,418 --> 01:41:46,006 - God, you people live in the Dark Ages. - And what about you? Listen... 1362 01:41:46,381 --> 01:41:48,779 You and I are cut from the same cloth. 1363 01:41:48,883 --> 01:41:51,219 I am what I have to be, but you? 1364 01:41:51,511 --> 01:41:55,411 You're no better. Like me, you observe rule Number 1. 1365 01:41:55,515 --> 01:41:57,517 Keep your balls intact. 1366 01:41:58,268 --> 01:42:02,105 Have a good flight. And don't forget to send me that report. 1367 01:42:02,355 --> 01:42:03,815 Okey-doke? 1368 01:42:05,317 --> 01:42:08,340 We need to get some agent provocateurs into these... 1369 01:42:08,445 --> 01:42:11,969 strikes that are taking place, local government strikes... 1370 01:42:12,073 --> 01:42:14,305 to cause a lot of unpleasantness and disruption. 1371 01:42:14,409 --> 01:42:17,662 We need that to run through until the election and give it a shot. 1372 01:42:18,204 --> 01:42:21,082 The question is, can we rely upon democracy? 1373 01:42:21,416 --> 01:42:24,315 - Just my opinion, but... - With a little push here and there. 1374 01:42:24,419 --> 01:42:27,610 Well, I agree with the little push. 1375 01:42:27,714 --> 01:42:31,155 I agree that is the point, in a way, why we're here, isn't it? 1376 01:42:31,259 --> 01:42:35,743 If there's a run on the pound, that's fine. If there's a lot of stuff circulating about... 1377 01:42:35,847 --> 01:42:39,538 Wilson and Moscow, which we all know to be the case... 1378 01:42:39,643 --> 01:42:42,500 I think Wilson's somebody we should home in very much on. 1379 01:42:42,604 --> 01:42:45,231 A lot of stuff should be circulated about Wilson. 1380 01:42:51,988 --> 01:42:53,531 Ms. Jessner. 1381 01:42:55,033 --> 01:42:56,910 She hasn't seen us. 1382 01:42:58,828 --> 01:43:00,288 Wait here. 1383 01:43:03,959 --> 01:43:04,939 What are you doing here? 1384 01:43:05,043 --> 01:43:06,565 - Where were you? - Did you get my note? 1385 01:43:06,670 --> 01:43:08,984 - Why did you change your mind? - There are reasons. 1386 01:43:09,089 --> 01:43:12,008 - Tell me. - I don't have to. I'm sorry. 1387 01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:15,720 What about Mr. Nevin? 1388 01:43:15,929 --> 01:43:17,284 What about Harris? 1389 01:43:17,389 --> 01:43:19,057 Harris is dead. 1390 01:43:19,391 --> 01:43:21,080 They're blaming the IRA. 1391 01:43:21,184 --> 01:43:22,957 - But it was them! - Please. 1392 01:43:23,061 --> 01:43:26,314 - I saw it happen! - Please, keep your voice down. 1393 01:43:28,441 --> 01:43:30,798 - I told you not to go. - You told me a lot of things... 1394 01:43:30,902 --> 01:43:33,321 - Did you speak to Harris? - Yes. 1395 01:43:33,905 --> 01:43:37,325 - Did you tell them we were meeting? - Of course not. You were followed! 1396 01:43:37,576 --> 01:43:40,120 But you did talk to them. Why? 1397 01:43:40,495 --> 01:43:43,060 - Did he give you the tape? - You're not gonna... 1398 01:43:43,164 --> 01:43:46,647 - Are you going to do anything about this? - There's nothing I can do. 1399 01:43:46,751 --> 01:43:48,732 They've committed murder and treason. 1400 01:43:48,837 --> 01:43:51,318 At 11:00 this morning, a man was assassinated... 1401 01:43:51,423 --> 01:43:54,718 by orders of British Intelligence, and you can do nothing! 1402 01:43:54,843 --> 01:43:55,844 I wish I could. 1403 01:43:56,428 --> 01:44:00,703 This is a final call for flight BTH-9 to London, Heathrow. 1404 01:44:00,807 --> 01:44:02,455 You have connections I don't have. 1405 01:44:02,559 --> 01:44:05,332 Your reputation brought you here. People will listen to you. 1406 01:44:05,437 --> 01:44:08,127 With you as my witness? A civil-liberties group member... 1407 01:44:08,231 --> 01:44:11,255 accusing the British government of torture and shoot-to-kill? 1408 01:44:11,359 --> 01:44:16,197 "I don't care whose toes I tread on". That's what you said, and I believed it. 1409 01:44:16,865 --> 01:44:19,555 - Look, I have to go. - Go. 1410 01:44:19,659 --> 01:44:21,536 - I'm a policeman. - Yes, you are. 1411 01:44:21,828 --> 01:44:24,268 The men responsible for Paul's death will be charged. 1412 01:44:24,372 --> 01:44:25,936 To know and do nothing. 1413 01:44:26,041 --> 01:44:29,023 - You can't win against these people. - To just close your eyes. 1414 01:44:29,127 --> 01:44:30,524 Forget it. Go home. 1415 01:44:30,629 --> 01:44:32,756 That's how fascism starts. 1416 01:44:33,798 --> 01:44:36,322 What do you think of your fine British law now? 1417 01:44:36,426 --> 01:44:37,823 This has nothing to do with law. 1418 01:44:37,928 --> 01:44:40,472 - What is it then? - It's politics. 1419 01:44:41,932 --> 01:44:45,122 To enforce the rules of a police state is politics. 1420 01:44:45,226 --> 01:44:47,792 Good guys like you cover it up so bad guys are safe. 1421 01:44:47,896 --> 01:44:50,690 You're a puppet, and the men pulling the strings know it. 1422 01:44:51,650 --> 01:44:53,443 Did he give you the tape? 1423 01:44:53,902 --> 01:44:56,112 - No. - What are you gonna do? 1424 01:44:57,739 --> 01:44:59,866 Tell people, newspapers. 1425 01:45:00,784 --> 01:45:02,786 - They won't print it. - We'll see. 1426 01:45:06,039 --> 01:45:07,832 Go back to America. 1427 01:45:08,333 --> 01:45:11,294 Get out of Belfast. You're in danger here. 1428 01:45:13,713 --> 01:45:16,258 Ingrid, it's finished. 1429 01:45:17,926 --> 01:45:21,388 Not for them, it isn't. Not for Nevin and the others. 1430 01:45:22,681 --> 01:45:26,268 They're not going to disappear. They're still in place. 1431 01:45:31,982 --> 01:45:34,317 You have a plane to catch, Mr. Kerrigan. 1432 01:45:53,670 --> 01:45:55,422 What? Yes. 116054

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