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- And how did it happen?
- Beat me up.
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They made me stand against the wall,
like this with me arms outstretched...
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and my legs stretched out behind me.
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Kept me like this for ages,
for over 30 hours or somethin' like that.
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And if I tried to relax
or lower me arms, they hit me.
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And then they gave me
the crab treatment.
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Were you arrested on Section 12?
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- Yeah.
- Okay. Good.
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Do you have any idea why?
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Sort of like most of me mates
were accused of belongin' to the IRA.
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Which he wasn't.
That's why they let him go.
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Could you demonstrate
this crab treatment to us?
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Yeah.
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One of them grabbed me...
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you know, with me arms back here...
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while his mate punched me
in the stomach.
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He just punched me and punched me.
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And the other one
kept askin' me questions...
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askin' more questions,
and they punched me again.
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Okay?
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- Are you all right?
- Yeah.
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Jim, why don't you tell them
what happened to you?
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I was arrested the week before Michael
and taken to Castlereagh.
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And then they threw me
into a cell for about four hours.
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They took me out...
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brought me up to what
they call an interview room.
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And two cops were sittin' there with me.
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One of the cops asked me my name.
I never told him my name...
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'cause if they didn't know my name,
they wouldn't have arrested me.
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At once, as soon as I told him,
all four cops came rushin' in the room...
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took me off the chair,
lifted me by the arms and legs...
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and held me over a table.
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And one of them put a towel
round my face.
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He was holding it
at the back of my neck here...
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and another one poured water
over my nose and mouth.
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It was goin' up my nose
and into my throat...
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I was gettin' the drowning feeling.
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Sullivan?
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Get the bastard!
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I don't believe it.
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- Tribal rites.
- It's frightening.
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Can I take you onto the question
of the treatment of prisoners...
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the question of interrogation techniques
referred to in the press release.
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It suggests that these allegations
of ill-treatment have reduced since 1978.
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Can I ask you to comment?
Do you have a view...
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as to whether these forms of
ill-treatment that you found are fair?
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What evidence do you have for them?
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Not to be too dramatic,
but these are all...
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statements of alleged maltreatment that
we have collected over our time here.
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And that one?
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"Punching, slapping,
kicking the plaintiff.
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"Causing, requiring,
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permitting the plaintiff to lie
on the floor of an interview room.
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"Causing, requiring,
permitting the plaintiff...
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"to remove his coat and shoes
in the interview room.
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"Punching the plaintiff
in the abdominal area.
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"Banging the plaintiff's head off
the wall of the interview room.
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"Standing on the plaintiff's
shoulders, stomach, ankles and chest.
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"Squeezing the plaintiff's neck.
Squeezing the plaintiff's testicles.
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"Causing, requiring,
permitting the plaintiff...
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- "...to be spreadled..."
- Spread-eagled.
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"Between three members
of the Royal Ulster Constabulary...
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"while one kicked him with his heel
in the area of the abdomen and raped..."
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Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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These are unconfirmed
allegations, right?
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Allegations for which
there is no outside evidence.
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These are allegations
from a group of people.
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A great deal of this evidence
is corroborated.
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Is it a war situation or not?
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If it's a war situation,
to solve that war situation...
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you have to negotiate, and so to accept
that there are two sides...
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putting around a table to negotiate...
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and that, the British
government doesn't accept.
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Does your report deal with
the shoot-to-kill policy...
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operatin' here in the six counties?
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Allegations of a shoot-to-kill policy
carried out by the RUC...
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the UDR, and the British Army
does form part of our report, yes.
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- Do you have any figures?
- Yes, in...
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the period of 1969 to 1980...
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the evidence shows
that at least 130 people...
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were killed by the security forces,
and half of those deaths...
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were of civilians
that had no connection...
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with paramilitary activities at all.
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Given the fact that there is a state of
armed insurrection in Northern Ireland...
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do you not concede
the government has every right...
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to take whatever measures
it deems necessary to...
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stem this insurrection?
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Britain is recognized the world over
as a democratic state.
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We will present our report
based on the documented evidence.
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And hopefully,
the British government will respond.
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I'm sure they will.
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Thank you. That's all we have time for.
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We're flying out tomorrow. Thank you.
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Hi.
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- I'm Teresa Doyle. Republican News.
- Excuse me?
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Republican News.
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You know the shoot-to-kill?
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It happens all the time.
I could show you a photograph.
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- Of what?
- Of an execution.
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You have that with you?
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It's not the sort of thing you carry around
the streets of Belfast in your handbag.
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But I could get it to you.
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I'm sorry.
Our investigation's concluded.
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- So you're not interested?
- No, we're not here to be used.
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Maybe that's all you're here for.
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Paul?
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- Is that the tape from yesterday?
- Yeah.
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I'm glad we're leaving tomorrow.
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Belfast reminds me of Chile.
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There's no comparison.
How can you say that?
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That's the way it feels:
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Killings, torture, intrigue.
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A reality check: What happened
in Chile can't happen here.
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- Let's eat.
- Yeah.
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- You got any money?
- Yes, I do.
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Good.
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So good night. See you tomorrow.
Tough day.
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Good night.
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Can you believe
he turned around and waved?
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- Do you know him?
- I don't know. I thought I did.
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- No messages.
- Okay, thanks.
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Yes.
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Harris?
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- I listened to your tape.
- Have you come to a decision?
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I don't know.
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We must talk.
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They saw us together.
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- How do you know?
- After I left you, I was followed.
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That means you're under surveillance.
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I really don't think that this is something
that I should get involved in...
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but I'll tell you what I can do.
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I can turn the tape over
to whatever authorities you deem...
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No! That would be crazy.
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We must meet.
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- Where?
- Near Dungannon. Now.
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It's less than an hour's drive away.
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Look, I've got a plane to catch.
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This won't take long.
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Mr. Sullivan?
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- Where's Harris?
- He's down the road, waiting on you.
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I am here to take you to him.
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You can leave your car here.
We'll go in mine.
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- My car's okay here?
- It's quite safe there.
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By the way, my name's Frank Molloy.
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- Did you bring the tape?
- Yeah.
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1169.
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Sorry?
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800 years: That's how long
we've been fightin' for independence.
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Sword...
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famine, burnin'...
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hangin', shootin', transportation:
We've had it all.
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Who's Harris?
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It's better he tells you himself.
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There's a car behind us.
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Is it following us?
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We'll soon find out.
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There's something wrong here.
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Get down! Get down!
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- Ms. Ingrid Jessner?
- Yes.
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I'm afraid we've got some
rather serious news for you.
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- May we come in?
- What is it?
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It's about Mr. Sullivan.
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He's been involved in a
rather serious incident.
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They were killed
in a car crash early this morning...
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which involved a police
checkpoint outside Dungannon.
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The men, who were driving
a yellow Ford Cortina...
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were signaled by police to stop.
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Ignoring the warning, the car accelerated
and drove directly at the officers.
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Police opened fire on the vehicle
as it attempted to escape.
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The car then went out of control
and careered off the road.
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Upon arrival at the crash scene,
police found the occupants were dead.
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Names of the two men
have not yet been released.
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Can you identify the body
as that of Paul Sullivan?
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Yes.
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Ingrid.
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Come on. Let's go.
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Ms. Jessner,
where have you just come from?
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Can you move away?
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It's said the man in the car
with Mr. Sullivan was a terrorist suspect.
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Is that true?
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- What are you suggesting?
- Who was with Mr. Sullivan?
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- I have no idea.
- Police say he was a terrorist suspect.
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Did the car go through
a police roadcheck?
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They say they opened fire
after the car went through a checkpoint?
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Where were they going this morning?
Did you know?
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As journalists, you must appreciate
that I can't talk about this right now.
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The driver of the car
in which the shooting occurred...
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has been named as Frank Molloy.
Police said the car failed to stop...
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at a roadblock outside Dungannon
around 6:15 this morning.
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An RUC statement said
the driver accelerated...
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toward their officers,
who opened fire on the fleeing car...
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causing it to swerve off the road.
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Also in the car was Paul Sullivan,
an American lawyer and a leading figure...
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in the International League
for Civil Liberties.
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What's puzzling observers...
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is why Mr. Sullivan should have
driven out of Belfast...
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in the early hours of the morning
to meet a man...
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who the police say
is a terrorist suspect.
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This is Ivan Little,
Ulster Television, Dungannon.
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With me in the studio to discuss...
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the political implications
of today's shooting...
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is Mr. Alec Nevin...
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who is a Conservative Party spokesman
on Northern Ireland.
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Mr. Nevin, earlier, we saw
pictures of Americans...
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demonstrating outside
the British embassy in Washington.
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Let's make a distinction.
What we saw was a demonstration...
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by supporters of the IRA...
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Could I finish my question?
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The people who give comfort
and weapons...
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to the men of violence.
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John Ware, Labour MP.
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A particularly embarrassing thing,
I would think...
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was, of course, the death of
this civil-liberties spokesman...
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It's quite clear that people
will be asking the question:
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Does this mean the investigation
has hit on a raw nerve...
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has revealed some of the things
that have been perpetrated...
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by security forces due to
their presence in Northern Ireland?
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Is Ms. Jessner coming
down to talk to us today?
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- No. She's resting.
- How is she?
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All right.
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Have you been told any more
about what happened...
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on the morning of the shooting?
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The only thing that we know is that
Mr. Sullivan has been murdered...
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by a member of the security forces...
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near Dungannon in a car, a rented car...
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with a man called Mr. Molloy.
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Did Mr. Sullivan have
Republican sympathies?
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- No.
- Was he a member of Noraid?
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- Not at all.
- What kind of a man was he, Mr. Sullivan?
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The only thing I can say is he was
a very good lawyer and a great fighter...
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for the civil rights all over the world
and a marvelous friend.
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The British government have
just appointed...
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Deputy Chief Constable Kerrigan...
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to head up the investigation
on the shooting.
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What's your reaction to that?
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I've heard that Kerrigan is
a fine investigator of the CID...
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but we would have preferred that...
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it would have been an independent,
international inquiry.
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So you don't have
any confidence in the inquiry?
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I've got a certain amount
of skepticism about that.
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You said that you were skeptical. Why?
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Why will the Kerrigan inquiry
not discover the truth?
243
00:25:11,286 --> 00:25:16,061
Because you had a lot of inquiries
in the 13 past years...
244
00:25:16,166 --> 00:25:19,419
and it didn't change anything.
245
00:25:37,145 --> 00:25:40,252
Excuse me, sir. I'm Sgt. Hughes,
your liaison for your stay.
246
00:25:40,357 --> 00:25:42,755
Hello.
This is Chief Superintendent Maxwell.
247
00:25:42,859 --> 00:25:45,091
How do you do?
The car's just outside the front.
248
00:25:45,195 --> 00:25:47,530
- Can I take your bag?
- Thank you.
249
00:25:52,953 --> 00:25:55,392
- This Jessner woman...
- Sullivan's girlfriend.
250
00:25:55,497 --> 00:25:59,834
What time is it now?
4:00. Late in the day.
251
00:26:00,669 --> 00:26:02,837
What about this Mrs. Molloy?
252
00:26:03,546 --> 00:26:06,591
She lives in Fort William.
253
00:26:07,634 --> 00:26:09,865
How far is it to Fort William, Sergeant?
254
00:26:09,970 --> 00:26:13,640
Fort William's just over here
on the right, sir, about a mile away.
255
00:26:15,558 --> 00:26:18,290
It might be a good idea
if you spoke to them both together.
256
00:26:18,395 --> 00:26:19,980
Let them feed off each other.
257
00:26:44,963 --> 00:26:46,464
Your ID, Sarge?
258
00:27:03,315 --> 00:27:05,129
Might as well leave
the cases in the car.
259
00:27:05,233 --> 00:27:08,507
- We'll be going to the hotel after.
- Sure they'll be safe here?
260
00:27:08,612 --> 00:27:10,113
I hope so, sir.
261
00:27:22,334 --> 00:27:23,877
Just in here, sir.
262
00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:33,803
- We're a bit pushed for space, sir.
- Not bad.
263
00:27:34,512 --> 00:27:38,079
I want a large wall map of Northern Ireland
and a blackboard.
264
00:27:38,183 --> 00:27:41,019
- Blackboard?
- Those big black things you write on.
265
00:27:41,478 --> 00:27:42,896
Yes, sir.
266
00:27:43,104 --> 00:27:48,151
- I'll tell Mr. Brodie you're here, sir.
- Thank you, Sergeant. That's kind of you.
267
00:27:54,824 --> 00:27:57,786
Hello.
268
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:03,312
- I've seen Jack Cunningham lately.
- What's he doing nowadays?
269
00:28:03,416 --> 00:28:06,774
- He runs his own security business.
- He must be rolling in it.
270
00:28:06,878 --> 00:28:08,546
He's earned it.
271
00:28:09,506 --> 00:28:11,779
Pleasure to meet you, Mr. Kerrigan.
272
00:28:11,883 --> 00:28:13,531
Chief Superintendent Maxwell.
273
00:28:13,635 --> 00:28:14,740
Sir.
274
00:28:14,844 --> 00:28:16,784
- Good flight?
- Bit cramped.
275
00:28:16,888 --> 00:28:18,640
Yeah, always is.
276
00:28:19,140 --> 00:28:21,122
This is not what you're used to,
I suppose.
277
00:28:21,226 --> 00:28:24,083
It's the best we can do
for one of Britain's top policemen.
278
00:28:24,187 --> 00:28:25,563
It's perfectly adequate.
279
00:28:26,898 --> 00:28:29,505
- Anything else you need?
- Thank you. I'll ask.
280
00:28:29,609 --> 00:28:32,091
Detective Sgt. Hughes
will be your liaison officer.
281
00:28:32,195 --> 00:28:34,760
He will organize
all your internal appointments.
282
00:28:34,864 --> 00:28:39,077
- Yes, secretarial staff...
- She'll be arriving tomorrow.
283
00:28:39,244 --> 00:28:40,745
Excuse me.
284
00:28:42,956 --> 00:28:46,167
- Have you read the CID interim report?
- Yes.
285
00:28:47,377 --> 00:28:49,442
Now, as I understand it...
286
00:28:49,546 --> 00:28:54,155
your terms of reference in the inquiry
are to reexamine the evidence and...
287
00:28:54,259 --> 00:28:56,741
Or if necessary,
reinvestigate the circumstances...
288
00:28:56,845 --> 00:28:59,848
which led to the shooting
of Paul Sullivan and Frank Molloy.
289
00:29:00,348 --> 00:29:03,518
I'm sure that your expertise
will be appreciated.
290
00:29:04,227 --> 00:29:07,480
However, I should warn you
that you may encounter some prejudice.
291
00:29:08,064 --> 00:29:11,547
- From members of your force?
- Possibly. But don't let that deter you.
292
00:29:11,651 --> 00:29:13,111
It won't.
293
00:29:14,029 --> 00:29:17,970
See, you have to bear in mind
the situation here in Northern Ireland.
294
00:29:18,074 --> 00:29:20,702
We operate under enormous pressure.
295
00:29:21,328 --> 00:29:24,143
For the last 12 years,
the Royal Ulster Constabulary...
296
00:29:24,247 --> 00:29:28,084
have fought to maintain the peace
against the terrorists.
297
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:31,254
140 people have given their lives.
298
00:29:31,671 --> 00:29:33,173
3,500 have been injured.
299
00:29:33,632 --> 00:29:36,927
And 155 medals for outstanding
feats of gallantry.
300
00:29:37,427 --> 00:29:39,658
Naturally, when outsiders
from the mainland...
301
00:29:39,763 --> 00:29:43,391
- come here to the province to tell us...
- I do understand.
302
00:29:45,352 --> 00:29:48,959
But rest assured, no obstacle
will be placed in your path.
303
00:29:49,064 --> 00:29:52,400
- You'll receive my full cooperation.
- Thank you.
304
00:29:52,692 --> 00:29:56,217
About accommodation, we have a couple
of safe houses where RUC personnel...
305
00:29:56,321 --> 00:30:01,159
I think it would be better if we
were to stay in a small hotel somewhere.
306
00:30:01,660 --> 00:30:02,681
Can I ask why?
307
00:30:02,786 --> 00:30:05,851
I don't want to socialize with officers
I might have to question.
308
00:30:05,956 --> 00:30:08,500
Best keep it on a strictly
professional basis.
309
00:30:08,959 --> 00:30:12,087
- Could I just say one thing, so...
- Also, I'll need a car...
310
00:30:12,879 --> 00:30:14,631
without a driver.
311
00:30:15,382 --> 00:30:17,696
You realize that I can't
guarantee your safety?
312
00:30:17,801 --> 00:30:18,781
Absolutely.
313
00:30:18,885 --> 00:30:21,888
Just let me say one thing,
so there can be no misunderstanding.
314
00:30:22,055 --> 00:30:27,018
When you have completed your inquiry,
you will deliver your report to me first.
315
00:30:28,395 --> 00:30:31,710
- I understood it was to go to the DPP first.
- No, it comes to me first.
316
00:30:31,815 --> 00:30:34,422
I will forward it
to the Director of Public Prosecutions.
317
00:30:34,526 --> 00:30:37,195
That is the constitutional position.
318
00:30:37,487 --> 00:30:41,095
We might as well keep that
on a professional basis, too.
319
00:30:41,199 --> 00:30:43,618
- Okay.
- Thank you.
320
00:30:54,170 --> 00:30:55,672
Ingrid...
321
00:30:56,381 --> 00:31:00,260
Henri and I will stay with you
for as long as you need us.
322
00:31:00,677 --> 00:31:02,512
- I'm okay.
- You sure?
323
00:31:03,513 --> 00:31:07,142
I think you can do more
back home than you can do here.
324
00:31:15,358 --> 00:31:16,651
Hello?
325
00:31:17,694 --> 00:31:20,739
No, it isn't Ingrid. Who is calling?
326
00:31:23,325 --> 00:31:25,285
Can you wait a second?
327
00:31:26,119 --> 00:31:27,996
It's Paul's mother.
328
00:31:32,959 --> 00:31:34,461
All right?
329
00:31:38,214 --> 00:31:39,466
Rose?
330
00:31:46,681 --> 00:31:48,496
How are you? Are you all right?
331
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,956
Is there somebody there?
Is somebody with you?
332
00:31:51,061 --> 00:31:53,021
That's good.
333
00:31:54,147 --> 00:31:58,193
I'm all right.
I have some friends here, and it's...
334
00:32:37,899 --> 00:32:41,278
What's the crack on this
Insp. Stephens of CID?
335
00:32:41,528 --> 00:32:44,739
Stephens? Decent enough man.
336
00:32:45,532 --> 00:32:47,304
Is he handling the shooting?
337
00:32:47,409 --> 00:32:50,850
Yes. If he was one of my detectives,
he'd be back in uniform.
338
00:32:50,954 --> 00:32:51,934
Why?
339
00:32:52,038 --> 00:32:55,542
Three hours after the shooting,
the RUC issued a statement.
340
00:32:55,792 --> 00:32:57,377
It was fabricated.
341
00:32:57,961 --> 00:33:00,735
- Maybe they had a reason?
- No resistance was offered.
342
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:04,301
The weapon found in the car
clearly didn't belong there.
343
00:33:04,467 --> 00:33:07,032
Forensic showed that
the shot that killed the Yank...
344
00:33:07,137 --> 00:33:11,266
was fired at two meters.
The trajectory was wrong.
345
00:33:12,309 --> 00:33:16,104
The officer that did the shooting
claims he shot at 25 feet.
346
00:33:16,479 --> 00:33:19,274
None of this was in the interim report.
347
00:33:19,816 --> 00:33:23,883
What if there were witnesses,
and it comes out at the inquest?
348
00:33:23,987 --> 00:33:26,385
You know as well as I
how long these things take.
349
00:33:26,489 --> 00:33:29,305
I know of two cases:
One seven years ago, the other was five.
350
00:33:29,409 --> 00:33:32,600
- There's still no inquest in either of them.
- This one's different.
351
00:33:32,704 --> 00:33:35,790
There's a lot of dead bodies
in Northern Ireland, Peter.
352
00:33:36,166 --> 00:33:40,545
Jack, you haven't been followin' the news.
Why the hell do you think I'm here?
353
00:33:40,754 --> 00:33:44,653
- A prominent American was involved.
- Brodie was hoping you'd do a snow job.
354
00:33:44,758 --> 00:33:46,238
Not a chance.
355
00:33:46,343 --> 00:33:48,282
Next to the Pope,
you're about to become...
356
00:33:48,386 --> 00:33:51,202
the most unpopular man
in Northern Ireland.
357
00:33:51,306 --> 00:33:54,768
What you have to understand is
Special Branch control the whole thing.
358
00:33:55,435 --> 00:33:56,937
Why do you think I got out?
359
00:33:57,562 --> 00:34:01,399
As soon as my time was up,
I just grabbed my pension and ran.
360
00:34:03,109 --> 00:34:05,695
These three policemen involved
in the shooting...
361
00:34:06,112 --> 00:34:09,115
- Cowboys, not policemen.
- Tell me about them.
362
00:34:09,866 --> 00:34:13,474
Members of an antiterrorist squad,
operating undercover.
363
00:34:13,578 --> 00:34:15,789
SSU, Special Support Unit...
364
00:34:16,248 --> 00:34:18,145
code-named Echo 4 Alpha.
365
00:34:18,250 --> 00:34:20,710
- Answerable to whom?
- Don't ask.
366
00:34:21,127 --> 00:34:22,629
I have to know.
367
00:34:23,046 --> 00:34:25,569
I'm not saying
we shouldn't use them against the IRA...
368
00:34:25,674 --> 00:34:30,512
but the fact is, they're out of control.
They're off the wire, trigger-happy.
369
00:34:31,721 --> 00:34:33,536
They go where they want,
do what they want.
370
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,351
They shoot first, no questions asked.
371
00:34:37,227 --> 00:34:40,438
The other side don't play
by the rules either.
372
00:34:40,563 --> 00:34:42,023
We're not the IRA.
373
00:34:42,899 --> 00:34:45,339
Goin' back to these three policemen...
374
00:34:45,443 --> 00:34:47,883
If they were involved,
then it's a covert operation.
375
00:34:47,988 --> 00:34:50,719
- What about Special Branch?
- They are Special Branch.
376
00:34:50,824 --> 00:34:54,411
- Sanctioned by them?
- Or Ml5 or Ml6.
377
00:34:55,203 --> 00:34:57,455
Take your pick.
We all piss in the same pot.
378
00:35:01,251 --> 00:35:03,691
If the British public knew
half of what goes on...
379
00:35:03,795 --> 00:35:06,861
in Northern Ireland,
they wouldn't sleep in their beds.
380
00:35:06,965 --> 00:35:11,428
- I don't know what the answer is.
- Good night, Jack. Thanks.
381
00:35:11,678 --> 00:35:13,284
Do yourself a favor, Peter.
382
00:35:13,388 --> 00:35:15,828
I know it goes against the grain,
but toe the line.
383
00:35:15,932 --> 00:35:18,289
Give them what they want,
and get back to England.
384
00:35:18,393 --> 00:35:21,041
- We'll see.
- You're a pillock!
385
00:35:21,146 --> 00:35:22,397
Mind how you go.
386
00:35:22,606 --> 00:35:26,067
Nobody gives a shit
what happens in Northern Ireland.
387
00:36:37,472 --> 00:36:40,892
- What's wrong?
- I found this on the seat of my car.
388
00:36:41,851 --> 00:36:44,750
"The next bullet is for you
if you don't get out of Ireland.
389
00:36:44,854 --> 00:36:46,606
"Our day will come".
390
00:36:47,607 --> 00:36:48,942
IRA?
391
00:36:52,988 --> 00:36:54,927
It's a 9-millimeter.
392
00:36:55,031 --> 00:36:56,866
Walther PPK pistol.
393
00:36:58,702 --> 00:37:02,080
That's a weapon favored by the cowboys
we talked about earlier.
394
00:37:03,248 --> 00:37:05,292
- Echo 4 Alpha?
- Yeah.
395
00:37:07,377 --> 00:37:08,837
So where are you taking me?
396
00:37:10,338 --> 00:37:12,173
It's one of ours, Peter.
397
00:37:13,508 --> 00:37:15,176
Excuse me. Hi.
398
00:37:16,886 --> 00:37:18,638
Good afternoon, Ms. Jessner.
399
00:37:19,055 --> 00:37:20,703
- Any further news yet?
- No, none.
400
00:37:20,807 --> 00:37:22,830
- What are your plans now?
- I have none...
401
00:37:22,934 --> 00:37:26,021
and I don't want to say anything.
Please, now, thank you.
402
00:37:26,313 --> 00:37:27,501
- Ms. Jessner.
- Mr. Kerrigan.
403
00:37:27,606 --> 00:37:29,253
- Thank you for seeing me.
- Of course.
404
00:37:29,357 --> 00:37:31,338
Did you get in touch with Mrs. Molloy?
405
00:37:31,443 --> 00:37:33,904
Yes. She's expecting us.
406
00:37:34,696 --> 00:37:36,990
How are your skills as a navigator?
407
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,386
This is Paradox.
408
00:37:59,429 --> 00:38:01,389
Subjects leaving location.
409
00:38:02,015 --> 00:38:03,767
Tabs on now, please.
410
00:38:11,191 --> 00:38:13,652
Paul was murdered, Mr. Kerrigan.
411
00:38:14,277 --> 00:38:17,948
- Why would the police want to kill him?
- I don't know, but they did.
412
00:38:18,615 --> 00:38:21,159
- What proof do you have?
- None.
413
00:38:22,786 --> 00:38:25,288
But I do know what goes on here.
414
00:38:25,664 --> 00:38:29,668
Torture, paid informants,
roadside executions, death squads.
415
00:38:36,383 --> 00:38:40,032
Mr. Kerrigan, when I was
going through Paul's things...
416
00:38:40,136 --> 00:38:43,056
I found something
I think might be important.
417
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,350
It's an empty cassette box.
418
00:38:46,101 --> 00:38:49,312
Paul was meticulous,
and I can't find that tape.
419
00:38:50,021 --> 00:38:52,211
- Did you ask about it?
- I told the police.
420
00:38:52,315 --> 00:38:56,403
- And what did they say?
- They would look into it and call me back.
421
00:38:56,611 --> 00:38:58,572
- And did they?
- No.
422
00:38:59,823 --> 00:39:01,637
What was on the tape?
423
00:39:01,741 --> 00:39:05,412
I don't know, but he was listening
to it the night before.
424
00:39:11,918 --> 00:39:13,420
This is it.
425
00:39:17,716 --> 00:39:21,866
I also found this list of names.
426
00:39:21,970 --> 00:39:24,139
- Is this his writing?
- Yes.
427
00:39:30,979 --> 00:39:33,523
This is a pretty formidable group.
428
00:39:34,524 --> 00:39:37,611
Lord Randall, Alec Nevin,
Sir Gerald Binning...
429
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,719
Why did he write these six names?
430
00:39:41,823 --> 00:39:44,054
- I don't know.
- Had he met them?
431
00:39:44,159 --> 00:39:46,161
No, not that I know of.
432
00:39:47,954 --> 00:39:49,852
Have you shown this to anyone else?
433
00:39:49,956 --> 00:39:53,084
No. Why, what do you think it is?
434
00:39:53,376 --> 00:39:55,295
What do you think?
435
00:39:56,379 --> 00:39:59,007
Could be people targeted, hit list.
436
00:40:01,259 --> 00:40:05,367
- I'm not saying it is, but...
- Paul was not involved with terrorists.
437
00:40:05,472 --> 00:40:07,349
Perhaps innocently.
438
00:40:07,557 --> 00:40:10,873
- Maybe he was being used.
- He was too smart to be manipulated.
439
00:40:10,977 --> 00:40:12,958
He was a good lawyer.
He thought like one.
440
00:40:13,063 --> 00:40:15,002
Then why did he write down
these six names?
441
00:40:15,106 --> 00:40:18,693
And why did he leave the hotel
at 5:00 in the morning, leaving you?
442
00:40:19,319 --> 00:40:21,509
What was he doing
driving around Dungannon...
443
00:40:21,613 --> 00:40:24,032
with a fringe member of the IRA?
444
00:40:25,325 --> 00:40:27,702
He must have been mixed up in something.
445
00:40:28,495 --> 00:40:31,102
Mrs. Molloy, is this Frank's father?
446
00:40:31,206 --> 00:40:33,729
- That's his father.
- Who's that?
447
00:40:33,833 --> 00:40:38,755
Them's his friends, lifelong friends.
They just can't believe it either.
448
00:40:40,340 --> 00:40:45,220
Those were taken on holiday.
It was the last holiday we had.
449
00:40:47,681 --> 00:40:50,225
Have you a religion, Mr. Kerrigan?
450
00:40:51,309 --> 00:40:52,706
Catholic.
451
00:40:52,811 --> 00:40:56,481
In the heel of the hunt,
we'll all be answerable to God.
452
00:40:56,773 --> 00:40:59,630
I curse the bloody day
we ever came back here.
453
00:40:59,734 --> 00:41:01,236
Why did you?
454
00:41:01,570 --> 00:41:05,699
No choice. He was workin'
for the Ministry of Defense in London.
455
00:41:06,032 --> 00:41:08,556
Some bright spark
sent him on this course.
456
00:41:08,660 --> 00:41:10,850
Then he was transferred over here.
457
00:41:10,954 --> 00:41:13,206
What kind of work did he do?
458
00:41:13,623 --> 00:41:15,458
It came under the army...
459
00:41:15,709 --> 00:41:18,837
to do with education
and publishing things.
460
00:41:19,796 --> 00:41:23,425
To tell you the truth,
he never talked much about it...
461
00:41:23,592 --> 00:41:25,448
but he wasn't happy.
462
00:41:25,552 --> 00:41:27,429
That's why he left?
463
00:41:28,138 --> 00:41:31,766
Under a cloud.
Said he couldn't stomach it anymore.
464
00:41:32,726 --> 00:41:34,936
Can I take a look at these?
465
00:41:37,147 --> 00:41:40,150
- Who's that?
- That's Grace's weddin'.
466
00:41:40,942 --> 00:41:44,049
- It's your daughter?
- That was a beautiful day.
467
00:41:44,154 --> 00:41:46,072
She looks wonderful.
468
00:41:46,781 --> 00:41:48,033
Mrs. Molloy...
469
00:41:50,327 --> 00:41:52,767
Did your husband ever mention
Paul to you?
470
00:41:52,871 --> 00:41:54,080
No.
471
00:41:55,248 --> 00:41:58,022
They must have known each other, though,
don't you think?
472
00:41:58,126 --> 00:42:01,254
They must've.
But I never heard Frank mention him.
473
00:42:01,546 --> 00:42:03,924
You were telling us earlier...
474
00:42:04,215 --> 00:42:06,635
that the house was searched.
475
00:42:06,927 --> 00:42:08,845
Yes. Two days after.
476
00:42:10,180 --> 00:42:12,641
Do you know who authorized it?
Was it the police?
477
00:42:12,807 --> 00:42:15,060
The big knock authorized it.
478
00:42:15,393 --> 00:42:19,606
1:00 in the mornin', you either
open up, or your door goes in.
479
00:42:20,231 --> 00:42:22,234
Did they question you?
480
00:42:22,442 --> 00:42:24,903
Asked me if I knew Capt. Harris.
481
00:42:25,570 --> 00:42:26,571
Capt. Harris?
482
00:42:26,988 --> 00:42:30,659
Frank's old boss.
Worked in a unit at Lisburn.
483
00:42:31,034 --> 00:42:34,100
- And what did you tell them?
- Told them the truth.
484
00:42:34,204 --> 00:42:36,831
The last time I saw Capt. Harris...
485
00:42:37,332 --> 00:42:38,625
was at the weddin'.
486
00:42:38,875 --> 00:42:41,378
Did they find anything?
487
00:42:42,003 --> 00:42:45,319
They took away some papers
and all his cassette tapes.
488
00:42:45,423 --> 00:42:47,425
- Tapes?
- The lot.
489
00:42:48,176 --> 00:42:51,117
Capt. Harris,
if he was at the wedding...
490
00:42:51,221 --> 00:42:53,786
he might be in one of these photographs.
491
00:42:53,890 --> 00:42:55,830
You've just been looking at it.
492
00:42:55,934 --> 00:42:59,938
- This one?
- That's him, next to the groom.
493
00:43:02,399 --> 00:43:03,775
I know him.
494
00:43:04,025 --> 00:43:06,820
- You met him?
- No, I know his face.
495
00:43:08,363 --> 00:43:11,032
He was talking to Paul
at the Orange Parade.
496
00:43:12,117 --> 00:43:16,037
- Here are the documents you asked for.
- Thank you, Chief.
497
00:43:28,383 --> 00:43:31,094
Could you initial there, Mr. Maxwell?
498
00:43:38,602 --> 00:43:43,148
And you'll have to sign
the secured-documents book as well.
499
00:43:48,778 --> 00:43:52,032
And how did you get involved
in civil liberties?
500
00:43:53,158 --> 00:43:54,701
I was in Chile.
501
00:43:54,993 --> 00:43:57,016
I was doing some research...
502
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,789
for a TV documentary
called The Disappeared.
503
00:44:00,332 --> 00:44:03,606
It was about the victims of Pinochet
after the coup.
504
00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:07,881
- Paul was there working for the League.
- When was that?
505
00:44:08,465 --> 00:44:09,925
1975.
506
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,929
There was a technical adviser
working with us...
507
00:44:14,471 --> 00:44:16,932
a young Chilean journalist.
508
00:44:17,432 --> 00:44:20,873
He disappeared one day
and I went to the League and Paul...
509
00:44:20,977 --> 00:44:24,272
to see if they could find out
what happened to him.
510
00:44:26,650 --> 00:44:28,944
- And did they?
- No.
511
00:44:31,488 --> 00:44:34,282
It was a year before we found out
he'd been executed.
512
00:44:34,991 --> 00:44:36,952
What happened to the film?
513
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,267
- Never got made.
- Too controversial?
514
00:44:40,372 --> 00:44:41,665
Too honest, I think.
515
00:44:42,499 --> 00:44:45,523
It was about how Mr. Kissinger,
the CIA, and the Pentagon...
516
00:44:45,627 --> 00:44:48,338
had made Chile safe for democracy.
517
00:44:51,591 --> 00:44:54,010
So I quit TV and joined the League.
518
00:44:54,636 --> 00:44:56,721
Got to know Paul better.
519
00:44:59,432 --> 00:45:01,789
How about you? You have a wife?
520
00:45:01,893 --> 00:45:03,103
Yes.
521
00:45:03,603 --> 00:45:05,188
- Kids?
- Three.
522
00:45:05,939 --> 00:45:08,733
Two at university, one away at school.
523
00:45:08,900 --> 00:45:11,424
- See them much?
- Not as often as I'd like.
524
00:45:11,528 --> 00:45:14,844
May I have your attention, please?
Telephone call for Mr. Kerrigan.
525
00:45:14,948 --> 00:45:18,097
- Would a Mr. Kerrigan please...
- Excuse me.
526
00:45:18,201 --> 00:45:19,703
Thank you.
527
00:45:27,043 --> 00:45:28,211
Yes?
528
00:45:28,420 --> 00:45:31,694
It's Tom. I got that stuff on Harris,
what there is of it.
529
00:45:31,798 --> 00:45:32,945
Go ahead.
530
00:45:33,049 --> 00:45:37,429
The first name's James John.
Born Gateshead, 1942.
531
00:45:37,721 --> 00:45:42,017
Religion, Protestant. Joined the
army, 1960, as a private soldier.
532
00:45:42,225 --> 00:45:44,769
Promoted to the rank
of lieutenant in '64.
533
00:45:45,437 --> 00:45:48,273
Doesn't say which mob. 1971...
534
00:45:48,523 --> 00:45:49,670
he attended a course...
535
00:45:49,774 --> 00:45:54,279
at the United States Army
Special Warfare School at Fort Bragg.
536
00:45:54,529 --> 00:45:56,698
A year later, 1972...
537
00:45:57,073 --> 00:46:01,703
he was seconded to the
Psychological Warfare Unit...
538
00:46:01,912 --> 00:46:03,038
known as PSYOPS.
539
00:46:03,163 --> 00:46:05,436
- The same place Molloy went to.
- Right.
540
00:46:05,540 --> 00:46:09,502
In 1973, he was sent to Northern Ireland
as a senior captain.
541
00:46:10,170 --> 00:46:15,071
That's it, apart from a list of postings
at various regiments.
542
00:46:15,175 --> 00:46:17,260
- Nothing else?
- Dead end.
543
00:46:17,427 --> 00:46:18,720
And since '73?
544
00:46:19,429 --> 00:46:21,744
- Classified.
- They told you that?
545
00:46:21,848 --> 00:46:24,059
With great emphasis.
The shutters came down.
546
00:46:31,274 --> 00:46:34,256
If there is a connection
between Paul's death and Harris...
547
00:46:34,361 --> 00:46:36,071
There has to be.
548
00:46:36,363 --> 00:46:38,719
Then I need to know more
about the background.
549
00:46:38,823 --> 00:46:41,055
Why not start with where he is?
550
00:46:41,159 --> 00:46:43,682
According to the colonel
I spoke to in Lisburn...
551
00:46:43,787 --> 00:46:46,248
Harris is away on leave
and can't be traced.
552
00:46:48,291 --> 00:46:50,523
There was a hint
he may be suffering from stress.
553
00:46:50,627 --> 00:46:52,545
Do you believe that?
554
00:46:52,796 --> 00:46:53,964
No.
555
00:46:55,257 --> 00:46:56,508
Mr. Kerrigan...
556
00:46:57,300 --> 00:46:59,344
How far are you willing to go with this?
557
00:47:00,262 --> 00:47:01,304
If...
558
00:47:01,972 --> 00:47:03,994
and it's still a big if...
559
00:47:04,099 --> 00:47:07,852
but if Harris is, in any way,
connected with this shooting...
560
00:47:08,436 --> 00:47:11,001
I don't care whose toes I tread on.
561
00:47:11,106 --> 00:47:15,443
He becomes part of the investigation,
no more, no less.
562
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,114
- Okay?
- Okay.
563
00:47:20,615 --> 00:47:23,952
What it boils down to, Sergeant,
is that you're in deep trouble.
564
00:47:24,327 --> 00:47:27,560
You're in a shit storm,
and it's blowing around your ears.
565
00:47:27,664 --> 00:47:29,937
We're not just talking about
disciplinary charges.
566
00:47:30,041 --> 00:47:31,897
It goes beyond that.
567
00:47:32,002 --> 00:47:34,629
You could be facing a murder charge.
568
00:47:34,963 --> 00:47:37,528
This man Sullivan was
no run-of-the-mill Paddy...
569
00:47:37,632 --> 00:47:39,572
you could just blow away.
570
00:47:39,676 --> 00:47:42,408
He was an American lawyer
with an international reputation.
571
00:47:42,512 --> 00:47:45,557
Now, there is no way
this will be brushed under the carpet.
572
00:47:47,183 --> 00:47:48,893
How old are you?
573
00:47:49,728 --> 00:47:50,895
37.
574
00:47:51,771 --> 00:47:55,066
- How long have you been on the force?
- Twelve years.
575
00:48:00,572 --> 00:48:03,888
Two years ago, you shot dead
a Republican in the Falls.
576
00:48:03,992 --> 00:48:07,266
- It was either him or me, sir.
- I'm not criticizing you, Sergeant.
577
00:48:07,370 --> 00:48:09,143
You should have been given
a commendation.
578
00:48:09,247 --> 00:48:11,791
- I was.
- I'm on your side.
579
00:48:14,044 --> 00:48:15,921
But if you go down for this...
580
00:48:16,713 --> 00:48:20,717
how long do you think you'd last
in the Crumlin Road Prison?
581
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,828
- You searched the bodies?
- Yes, sir.
582
00:48:27,933 --> 00:48:30,477
- Took away all personal effects?
- Yes, sir.
583
00:48:30,602 --> 00:48:32,854
Find anything interesting on Sullivan?
584
00:48:33,188 --> 00:48:37,859
Usual stuff: Wallet, money, ID card.
585
00:48:38,902 --> 00:48:41,363
What about the tape he was carrying?
586
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:46,034
There was no tape, sir.
587
00:48:47,661 --> 00:48:49,975
- Are you getting all this?
- Yes, sir.
588
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,645
- Read out that last bit.
- From where?
589
00:48:52,749 --> 00:48:54,376
From me asking about the tape.
590
00:48:54,918 --> 00:48:59,673
"What about the tape he was carrying?"
"There was no tape, sir".
591
00:49:00,882 --> 00:49:02,926
Do you want me to leave it at that?
592
00:49:03,093 --> 00:49:06,575
It's up to you. You've already lied once
in your statement to the CID.
593
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:11,142
- I'm bound by the Official Secrets Act.
- Not anymore, you're not.
594
00:49:12,269 --> 00:49:14,479
All constraints are lifted.
595
00:49:15,397 --> 00:49:18,587
You can wipe the slate clean
and tell me everything that happened...
596
00:49:18,692 --> 00:49:22,070
and you might get off with a reprimand,
or you bury yourself deeper.
597
00:49:22,821 --> 00:49:24,614
So what's it gonna be?
598
00:49:32,789 --> 00:49:34,583
After the shooting...
599
00:49:35,834 --> 00:49:39,045
we returned to the barracks
for the debriefing.
600
00:49:41,381 --> 00:49:43,091
We were told...
601
00:49:43,967 --> 00:49:46,720
by a senior officer what to say.
602
00:49:48,138 --> 00:49:49,347
Name?
603
00:49:51,141 --> 00:49:52,767
Superintendent Fraser.
604
00:49:53,768 --> 00:49:55,979
He instructed you to lie to the CID?
605
00:49:56,187 --> 00:49:57,543
Yes, sir.
606
00:49:57,647 --> 00:50:00,629
He said it was to protect
our source of information.
607
00:50:00,734 --> 00:50:02,715
Do you know what that source was?
608
00:50:02,819 --> 00:50:04,946
No, sir. We were only told to intercept.
609
00:50:05,989 --> 00:50:08,617
Were you ordered to shoot on sight?
610
00:50:09,826 --> 00:50:11,786
Not in so many words.
611
00:50:12,662 --> 00:50:13,955
What does that mean?
612
00:50:14,956 --> 00:50:18,981
We were told that the two men in the car
were armed and dangerous...
613
00:50:19,085 --> 00:50:22,130
and we mustn't take
any chances with them.
614
00:50:23,006 --> 00:50:25,258
How did you interpret that?
615
00:50:26,176 --> 00:50:29,075
I got the feeling that we were
being given clear signals...
616
00:50:29,179 --> 00:50:33,183
to bring them back dead or alive,
and there'd be no questions asked.
617
00:50:34,017 --> 00:50:36,311
Now, tell me about the tape.
618
00:50:38,146 --> 00:50:40,377
We took it from the American.
619
00:50:40,482 --> 00:50:41,775
Go on.
620
00:50:42,692 --> 00:50:44,903
When we got back to the barracks...
621
00:50:45,528 --> 00:50:47,510
Mr. Fraser was there to meet us.
622
00:50:47,614 --> 00:50:49,720
And there was someone else
along with him.
623
00:50:49,824 --> 00:50:53,036
- A police officer?
- More like Special Branch.
624
00:50:53,370 --> 00:50:55,935
- What was his name?
- I don't know.
625
00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:57,624
But he seemed to be in charge.
626
00:50:58,959 --> 00:51:00,877
Can you describe him?
627
00:51:01,378 --> 00:51:02,796
English...
628
00:51:03,713 --> 00:51:05,006
tall...
629
00:51:05,674 --> 00:51:07,384
thinning on top...
630
00:51:08,051 --> 00:51:09,636
age, about 40.
631
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,431
So what happened?
632
00:51:15,141 --> 00:51:18,728
The first thing the tall man asked about
was the tape.
633
00:51:20,105 --> 00:51:22,524
- Which he took with him?
- Yes, sir.
634
00:51:23,066 --> 00:51:26,861
- Have you any idea what was on the tape?
- Not a clue, sir.
635
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:31,533
Okay.
636
00:51:33,076 --> 00:51:36,621
We'll just run through it again.
Then you can sign it.
637
00:51:40,959 --> 00:51:43,128
Do you have his statement?
638
00:51:47,090 --> 00:51:48,550
Here. Now.
639
00:51:49,259 --> 00:51:52,867
The senior officer that did the debriefing,
Superintendent Fraser, yeah...
640
00:51:52,971 --> 00:51:55,307
I want to see him today.
641
00:51:55,432 --> 00:51:56,495
What do you think?
642
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,248
I think it's time
I had a word with Mr. Brodie...
643
00:51:59,352 --> 00:52:03,732
after I've interviewed Fraser.
There's something else I want you to do.
644
00:52:04,065 --> 00:52:07,465
Before he left the hotel,
Sullivan wrote a list of names.
645
00:52:07,569 --> 00:52:09,696
I want you to check them.
646
00:52:10,030 --> 00:52:13,909
The connection is obvious.
Famous punters, what have you.
647
00:52:14,784 --> 00:52:17,203
I want something more specific.
648
00:52:17,746 --> 00:52:21,374
- Has Brodie seen this?
- No. We'll keep it in the family.
649
00:52:27,964 --> 00:52:29,382
538, please.
650
00:52:32,928 --> 00:52:36,056
Here's your key,
and there's a message for you as well.
651
00:54:00,515 --> 00:54:03,226
- Hiya. Come on in.
- Thanks.
652
00:54:12,444 --> 00:54:13,612
Hey.
653
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:16,907
- Kevin.
- Here you are.
654
00:54:17,657 --> 00:54:19,034
Thanks.
655
00:54:19,284 --> 00:54:22,704
Look, I was really sorry
to hear about Mr. Sullivan.
656
00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:24,456
Thanks.
657
00:54:27,542 --> 00:54:29,023
Do you smoke?
658
00:54:29,127 --> 00:54:32,589
- Here.
- Yes. Thanks.
659
00:54:33,548 --> 00:54:36,217
- So is it just you and Kevin?
- Yeah.
660
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,471
His dad's doing 12 years in the Kesh.
661
00:54:40,931 --> 00:54:41,765
What for?
662
00:54:42,557 --> 00:54:45,393
Possession of arms and IRA membership.
663
00:54:45,727 --> 00:54:49,460
He was doing a punishment for the IRA
on some local gangsters...
664
00:54:49,564 --> 00:54:54,110
who were robbin' their own community,
and he got caught by the RUC.
665
00:54:54,736 --> 00:54:57,697
Just like him.
He never did have much luck.
666
00:54:59,282 --> 00:55:03,245
So you said in your note
that you might have some information.
667
00:55:03,536 --> 00:55:05,830
I'm just delivering a message.
668
00:55:06,581 --> 00:55:09,918
Harris wants to meet you
and the policeman Kerrigan.
669
00:55:10,752 --> 00:55:12,712
- When?
- Tomorrow night.
670
00:55:14,297 --> 00:55:17,717
Look, after what's happened,
can you trust Kerrigan?
671
00:55:18,593 --> 00:55:23,473
- Yeah, I trust him. I think he's different.
- Anyway, Harris wants him there.
672
00:55:24,516 --> 00:55:28,144
You're to meet at a Republican club
off Falls Road. I have the address.
673
00:55:28,937 --> 00:55:31,001
Will Kerrigan be safe
in a Republican club?
674
00:55:31,106 --> 00:55:34,276
He'll be safe as long
as you're with him.
675
00:55:34,859 --> 00:55:37,988
I'll get you that photograph
I told you about.
676
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:41,741
This is it.
677
00:55:43,535 --> 00:55:45,870
He's an officer in the SAS.
678
00:55:46,663 --> 00:55:49,270
He led a killer squad across the border.
679
00:55:49,374 --> 00:55:51,793
That's where this photograph was taken.
680
00:56:00,343 --> 00:56:03,242
Is there anything
in Sgt. Kennedy's statement...
681
00:56:03,346 --> 00:56:06,099
you disagree with, Superintendent?
682
00:56:07,017 --> 00:56:08,393
No, sir.
683
00:56:08,685 --> 00:56:12,147
He says that you instructed
him to lie to the CID...
684
00:56:12,731 --> 00:56:16,151
about the shooting of Paul Sullivan
and Frank Molloy. Is this true?
685
00:56:17,736 --> 00:56:19,717
It was to protect
our source of information.
686
00:56:19,821 --> 00:56:23,137
- Can you tell me what that source was?
- That's classified information.
687
00:56:23,241 --> 00:56:26,494
- On whose orders?
- On the orders of Mr. Brodie.
688
00:56:29,873 --> 00:56:33,627
When your men returned to the barracks,
they were given a debriefing.
689
00:56:33,877 --> 00:56:36,379
Were they given a cover-up story?
690
00:56:37,380 --> 00:56:39,570
Certain evidence was withheld, yes.
691
00:56:39,674 --> 00:56:43,428
A dress rehearsal, so they could
decide what to tell the CID?
692
00:56:44,971 --> 00:56:46,765
- Yes, sir.
- By you?
693
00:56:47,933 --> 00:56:50,810
Yes, sir, but I was acting under orders.
694
00:56:53,772 --> 00:56:55,690
This Englishman...
695
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,028
tall, thinning hair, about 40...
696
00:57:00,820 --> 00:57:03,156
who took the tape, who is he?
697
00:57:04,324 --> 00:57:06,910
- Don't know, sir.
- Have you seen him before?
698
00:57:09,329 --> 00:57:11,456
Once, with Mr. Brodie.
699
00:57:11,790 --> 00:57:13,083
Where?
700
00:57:14,376 --> 00:57:16,378
Here, in this building.
701
00:57:17,045 --> 00:57:20,840
- Did he show you his authority?
- No, sir.
702
00:57:22,050 --> 00:57:24,719
He just walked in and took the tape?
703
00:57:25,512 --> 00:57:28,390
I received a phone call from Mr. Brodie.
704
00:57:29,057 --> 00:57:30,642
He told you to give it to him?
705
00:57:32,143 --> 00:57:33,561
Yes, sir.
706
00:57:35,939 --> 00:57:38,400
- Would you mind if I smoke, sir?
- Yes, I do.
707
00:57:56,001 --> 00:57:57,502
Go!
708
00:57:58,003 --> 00:57:59,254
Move! Move it!
709
00:57:59,629 --> 00:58:01,590
Get out of here!
710
00:58:02,674 --> 00:58:05,594
- Police!
- Get out of my house!
711
00:58:07,304 --> 00:58:10,619
- There's nobody in there! Just get out!
- Get inside, get in there.
712
00:58:10,724 --> 00:58:13,956
What do you want? My baby's in there.
Don't let them go in there!
713
00:58:14,060 --> 00:58:16,417
I'm arresting you under
the Emergency Provisions Act.
714
00:58:16,521 --> 00:58:19,378
- Get your clothes on now!
- What are they doing?
715
00:58:19,482 --> 00:58:20,921
My baby's in the other room.
716
00:58:21,026 --> 00:58:23,549
Okay, that's too bad.
Get your clothes on!
717
00:58:23,653 --> 00:58:26,343
- No! What are you arresting me for?
- Get your clothes on.
718
00:58:26,448 --> 00:58:29,680
- I'm arresting you under Section 11!
- I haven't done anything!
719
00:58:29,784 --> 00:58:33,350
- We'll see about that!
- Will you, now? I'm going nowhere!
720
00:58:33,455 --> 00:58:35,603
Tell him to get out of there!
My baby's in there!
721
00:58:35,707 --> 00:58:38,668
- Get your clothes on now!
- I'm putting no clothes on!
722
00:58:42,339 --> 00:58:44,653
Get off!
723
00:58:44,758 --> 00:58:47,135
- You bitch!
- Get off!
724
00:58:49,971 --> 00:58:52,953
- Get off me!
- Just calm down!
725
00:58:53,058 --> 00:58:55,081
I'm going nowhere
until I've seen a solicitor!
726
00:58:55,185 --> 00:58:58,939
- Just calm down! Open the door, Sam.
- What about my baby next door?
727
00:58:59,189 --> 00:59:01,524
Open that door. We're going downtown.
728
00:59:02,108 --> 00:59:04,444
- I'm going nowhere!
- Hold her!
729
00:59:13,078 --> 00:59:16,331
- Has Brodie's office returned my call yet?
- No.
730
00:59:17,374 --> 00:59:19,000
Try again now.
731
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,530
Mr. Kerrigan's secretary.
732
00:59:27,634 --> 00:59:31,054
Did you set up that appointment
with Mr. Brodie yet?
733
00:59:31,471 --> 00:59:34,683
Why not?
I've been trying since 12:00 yesterday.
734
00:59:36,851 --> 00:59:39,041
Excuse me. He can't meet you today.
735
00:59:39,145 --> 00:59:42,357
- He has an official engagement.
- Playing games.
736
00:59:43,483 --> 00:59:45,068
Find out when he's leaving.
737
00:59:46,403 --> 00:59:48,488
Is Mr. Brodie there now?
738
00:59:49,489 --> 00:59:52,242
What time's his appointment? Thank you.
739
00:59:52,909 --> 00:59:54,327
He's there until 2:30.
740
01:00:06,715 --> 01:00:09,947
Two statements:
Fraser's and Sgt. Kennedy's.
741
01:00:10,051 --> 01:00:13,221
- I'd like to see them.
- They'll be in my report.
742
01:00:13,388 --> 01:00:15,745
- And now you want to question me?
- Interview you.
743
01:00:15,849 --> 01:00:18,727
- Make an appointment.
- All right. When?
744
01:00:19,185 --> 01:00:22,397
- At my convenience.
- Will you get off your fuckin' high horse?
745
01:00:23,023 --> 01:00:26,026
I don't ask your cooperation!
I demand it!
746
01:00:27,986 --> 01:00:31,698
- What is it you want?
- Everything, chapter and verse.
747
01:00:32,616 --> 01:00:34,784
- That might not be possible.
- Why not?
748
01:00:35,035 --> 01:00:37,183
Give me your question,
and please try to hurry.
749
01:00:37,287 --> 01:00:39,727
I've got another funeral to attend.
750
01:00:39,831 --> 01:00:43,919
Both Superintendent Fraser and
Sgt. Kennedy admit there was a cover-up.
751
01:00:45,211 --> 01:00:48,194
- Fraser says you ordered it.
- Classified.
752
01:00:48,298 --> 01:00:49,737
Then the buck stops here?
753
01:00:49,841 --> 01:00:52,364
- It's classified.
- I can't accept that.
754
01:00:52,469 --> 01:00:55,347
Then put that in your report, too.
Next question.
755
01:00:55,889 --> 01:00:57,161
- He says...
- Who says?
756
01:00:57,265 --> 01:01:01,728
Fraser says
it was in order to protect the source.
757
01:01:02,103 --> 01:01:05,002
- That's acceptable.
- Not to me, it isn't.
758
01:01:05,106 --> 01:01:07,254
That's because
you have been meddling in things...
759
01:01:07,359 --> 01:01:11,655
Meddling? I am conducting
an investigation, for Christ's Sake!
760
01:01:12,906 --> 01:01:15,137
Cover-up stories are used
to protect informants...
761
01:01:15,242 --> 01:01:17,869
whose lives might be endangered.
762
01:01:18,119 --> 01:01:19,329
Look.
763
01:01:19,496 --> 01:01:23,458
The last thing I want to do
is to probe into sensitive areas.
764
01:01:23,792 --> 01:01:26,315
But these civil-liberties people
are organized.
765
01:01:26,419 --> 01:01:29,276
They're sending over a lawyer
from the States for the inquest.
766
01:01:29,381 --> 01:01:30,361
So?
767
01:01:30,465 --> 01:01:33,030
They'll make mincemeat out of you.
They'll ask questions.
768
01:01:33,134 --> 01:01:35,136
I've got a couple questions of my own.
769
01:01:35,679 --> 01:01:37,243
There was no roadblock.
770
01:01:37,347 --> 01:01:39,870
No witnesses were questioned,
no resistance offered.
771
01:01:39,975 --> 01:01:42,123
The weapon found in the car
had no fingerprints.
772
01:01:42,227 --> 01:01:44,375
Forensic showed
the shot that killed Sullivan...
773
01:01:44,479 --> 01:01:48,712
was fired at a distance of two meters
after the car had crashed.
774
01:01:48,817 --> 01:01:51,215
The officers involved
were acting on the assumption...
775
01:01:51,319 --> 01:01:53,426
that both men were armed and dangerous.
776
01:01:53,530 --> 01:01:54,948
Prove it.
777
01:01:56,700 --> 01:02:00,224
What was Sullivan doing in Dungannon
at 5:00 in the morning with Molloy?
778
01:02:00,328 --> 01:02:01,725
Was there a warrant out for them?
779
01:02:01,830 --> 01:02:04,145
- No, there wasn't.
- Then you've no case.
780
01:02:04,249 --> 01:02:07,148
There's no law against
two men deciding to go out for a drive.
781
01:02:07,252 --> 01:02:10,234
When that comes out in court,
your cover story will be blown...
782
01:02:10,338 --> 01:02:13,487
because neither Kennedy nor Fraser
are prepared to carry the can.
783
01:02:13,592 --> 01:02:16,157
- That's for the DPP to decide.
- Will he have a choice?
784
01:02:16,261 --> 01:02:19,952
When that lawyer gets him at the inquest,
he'll squeeze him like toothpaste.
785
01:02:20,056 --> 01:02:23,080
Do you think I give a shit
about a smart-arsed American lawyer?
786
01:02:23,184 --> 01:02:25,040
I would, if I were you!
787
01:02:25,145 --> 01:02:29,774
Yes. The RUC do run covert operations,
but so do the IRA!
788
01:02:29,983 --> 01:02:33,612
If you want to bring home the bacon,
you first of all have to kill the pig.
789
01:02:34,696 --> 01:02:36,823
Now, if you will excuse me...
790
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,139
three of our young men
are being buried this morning.
791
01:02:40,243 --> 01:02:41,995
Blown up by a land mine.
792
01:02:44,956 --> 01:02:46,520
I have more questions.
793
01:02:46,625 --> 01:02:49,106
Two of them were married
with young children.
794
01:02:49,210 --> 01:02:50,962
I want that tape.
795
01:02:53,006 --> 01:02:54,028
What tape?
796
01:02:54,132 --> 01:02:58,011
The tape they found on Sullivan's body
and brought back to Gough Barracks.
797
01:02:58,762 --> 01:03:00,034
This Fraser again?
798
01:03:00,138 --> 01:03:02,078
And Kennedy.
It's in both their statements.
799
01:03:02,182 --> 01:03:04,330
- I don't have the tape.
- But you know who does.
800
01:03:04,434 --> 01:03:07,520
- Classified information.
- "Classified" bullshit!
801
01:03:07,812 --> 01:03:11,962
What the fuck are you people runnin'
here? Your own private shooting war?
802
01:03:12,067 --> 01:03:13,964
Checks and balances, Mr. Kerrigan.
803
01:03:14,069 --> 01:03:16,300
Between the jigs and the reels,
we are winning.
804
01:03:16,404 --> 01:03:19,241
And innocent lives are being saved
as a result!
805
01:03:20,075 --> 01:03:22,911
The source you wish to protect
is Army Intelligence.
806
01:03:23,078 --> 01:03:24,454
Am I right?
807
01:03:27,415 --> 01:03:29,480
- What did you say?
- I'll say it again quickly.
808
01:03:29,584 --> 01:03:31,690
Molloy and Sullivan
were killed for that tape...
809
01:03:31,795 --> 01:03:35,319
and Army Intelligence, Ml5, Ml6,
call it what you want, are involved...
810
01:03:35,423 --> 01:03:38,468
and I want to know why, Mr. Brodie.
811
01:03:38,802 --> 01:03:41,325
- Then take it up with them.
- You ordered it.
812
01:03:41,429 --> 01:03:44,328
My participation was limited
to policing the operation.
813
01:03:44,432 --> 01:03:47,102
- That will sound wonderful in court.
- What court?
814
01:03:47,227 --> 01:03:49,375
There will be accounting.
Charges will be made.
815
01:03:49,479 --> 01:03:51,585
- By you?
- I'll recommend it in my report.
816
01:03:51,690 --> 01:03:54,004
Which I shall take
to the DPP for him to decide.
817
01:03:54,109 --> 01:03:55,381
- It won't work.
- What won't?
818
01:03:55,485 --> 01:03:57,571
Not at my expense, it won't.
819
01:03:57,821 --> 01:04:02,117
My God, you're catchin' the Irish disease.
You're gettin' paranoid.
820
01:04:02,409 --> 01:04:05,224
If necessary,
I'm prepared to resign over this...
821
01:04:05,328 --> 01:04:08,102
and start telling tales out of school.
822
01:04:08,206 --> 01:04:11,918
I don't think you will.
You're a career officer like me.
823
01:04:13,003 --> 01:04:15,651
- I mean it.
- You'd resign the force and go public?
824
01:04:15,755 --> 01:04:17,340
If I have to.
825
01:04:17,841 --> 01:04:21,678
Listen, we're both professionals.
We observe certain rules.
826
01:04:21,886 --> 01:04:23,763
Then understand.
827
01:04:24,014 --> 01:04:25,661
Without access to that tape...
828
01:04:25,765 --> 01:04:28,873
it is impossible for me
to evaluate the evidence.
829
01:04:28,977 --> 01:04:33,690
I'm afraid I can't help you there.
I have neither seen nor heard that tape.
830
01:04:33,857 --> 01:04:37,986
And frankly, I don't want the burden.
Now, if you will excuse me.
831
01:04:41,865 --> 01:04:43,450
Who's Harris?
832
01:04:45,035 --> 01:04:46,369
Harris?
833
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:48,955
I've never heard of him.
834
01:04:53,627 --> 01:04:57,380
Ms. McKechnie, will you show Mr. Kerrigan
out of my office, please?
835
01:05:12,604 --> 01:05:15,190
I wonder what Harris'
connection with the Provos is?
836
01:05:15,482 --> 01:05:18,422
- Why do you think he has one?
- Why else meet in an IRA club?
837
01:05:18,526 --> 01:05:20,716
- It's a Republican club.
- Same difference.
838
01:05:20,820 --> 01:05:23,531
Not every Republican supports the IRA.
839
01:05:23,740 --> 01:05:27,181
Let's hope you're right.
I could be putting my head in a noose.
840
01:05:27,285 --> 01:05:29,454
I don't think you have to worry.
841
01:05:29,579 --> 01:05:32,311
You can count on the IRA
to be predictable.
842
01:05:32,415 --> 01:05:34,876
Yes. They shoot policemen.
843
01:05:53,770 --> 01:05:55,730
Did you lock the door?
844
01:06:19,588 --> 01:06:21,736
- Are you lookin' for someone?
- Teresa Doyle.
845
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,029
- You have to be signed in by a member.
- Pardon?
846
01:06:24,134 --> 01:06:28,200
- You have to be signed in by a member.
- That's why I'm waiting for her to come.
847
01:06:28,305 --> 01:06:32,872
It's okay, Danny. I know these people.
I take full responsibility for them.
848
01:06:32,976 --> 01:06:35,291
Welcome to
the James Connolly Republican Club.
849
01:06:35,395 --> 01:06:38,377
I'm Liam Philbin, Sinn Fein rep
for this area and club secretary.
850
01:06:38,481 --> 01:06:39,670
Ingrid Jessner.
851
01:06:39,774 --> 01:06:41,234
Hello. Peter Kerrigan.
852
01:06:42,068 --> 01:06:44,175
- Got here okay, then?
- Yeah, fine, thanks.
853
01:06:44,279 --> 01:06:47,240
Would you like to buy a football ticket?
Football ticket.
854
01:06:47,574 --> 01:06:48,929
Never misses a trick.
855
01:06:49,034 --> 01:06:51,453
- Fifty pence.
- Four.
856
01:06:52,245 --> 01:06:53,288
Thank you.
857
01:06:55,290 --> 01:06:58,981
Congratulations. You've just contributed
to a fund for Republican prisoners.
858
01:06:59,085 --> 01:07:00,024
Thank you very much.
859
01:07:00,128 --> 01:07:02,276
- Here's a present.
- Down to you.
860
01:07:02,380 --> 01:07:04,820
- Shall we go in?
- Sure. Is Teresa here?
861
01:07:04,925 --> 01:07:07,698
- No, Teresa got lifted on Monday.
- Lifted? What for?
862
01:07:07,802 --> 01:07:10,347
Harassment. Happens all the time.
863
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,161
- Is she all right?
- She's okay.
864
01:07:12,265 --> 01:07:14,872
- And the baby?
- They're being looked after.
865
01:07:14,976 --> 01:07:17,103
"In the Maidstone and the Maze
866
01:07:17,312 --> 01:07:21,274
"I thought about my land
throughout these days
867
01:07:22,067 --> 01:07:24,653
"Why my country was divided
868
01:07:24,945 --> 01:07:27,322
"Why I was now in jail
869
01:07:27,489 --> 01:07:31,243
"Imprisoned without crime
or without trial
870
01:07:32,619 --> 01:07:37,332
"And now I love my country
I am not a bitter man
871
01:07:37,582 --> 01:07:41,586
"I've seen cruelty and injustice
at first hand
872
01:07:43,338 --> 01:07:48,093
"And then one fateful mornin'
I shook bold freedom's hand
873
01:07:48,468 --> 01:07:51,721
"For right or wrong,
I tried to free my land
874
01:07:53,181 --> 01:07:58,103
"And you dare call me a terrorist
while you look down your gun
875
01:07:58,311 --> 01:08:02,065
"When I think of all the deeds
that you have done
876
01:08:03,191 --> 01:08:07,988
"You have plundered many nations,
divided many lands
877
01:08:08,238 --> 01:08:13,034
"You have terrorized their people
You've ruled with an iron hand
878
01:08:13,201 --> 01:08:17,122
"And you've brought
this reign of terror to my land
879
01:08:18,665 --> 01:08:23,378
"And you dare call me a terrorist
while you look down your gun
880
01:08:23,753 --> 01:08:27,632
"When I think of all the deeds
that you have done
881
01:08:28,717 --> 01:08:33,388
"You have plundered many nations,
divided many lands
882
01:08:33,555 --> 01:08:38,476
"You have terrorized their people
You've ruled with an iron hand
883
01:08:38,643 --> 01:08:42,689
"And you've brought
this reign of terror to my land
884
01:08:44,190 --> 01:08:49,070
"You've brought
this reign of terror to my land"
885
01:08:50,405 --> 01:08:51,865
Thank you.
886
01:08:58,079 --> 01:09:00,665
Jimmy here's gonna do the next one.
887
01:09:03,293 --> 01:09:05,941
On the wall,
you see a picture of James Connolly...
888
01:09:06,046 --> 01:09:08,131
one of our greatest-ever Irish leaders.
889
01:09:08,256 --> 01:09:12,010
Connolly said, many years ago,
that England has no more moral right...
890
01:09:12,260 --> 01:09:13,991
to administer Irish affairs...
891
01:09:14,095 --> 01:09:17,098
than it has to administer the affairs
of America or Japan.
892
01:09:17,432 --> 01:09:21,540
No more moral right to police us
than it has a moral right to shoot us.
893
01:09:21,645 --> 01:09:23,584
That is the answer: British withdrawal.
894
01:09:23,688 --> 01:09:25,106
That's the answer...
895
01:09:25,941 --> 01:09:29,632
but innocent people have been killed.
896
01:09:29,736 --> 01:09:33,469
Yes, innocent people have been killed
and are being killed.
897
01:09:33,573 --> 01:09:36,388
But if you look at all the colonies,
for instance, America.
898
01:09:36,493 --> 01:09:38,933
George Washington was called
a terrorist in his time.
899
01:09:39,037 --> 01:09:43,145
Jomo Kenyatta was a terrorist.
Archbishop Makarios was a terrorist.
900
01:09:43,250 --> 01:09:46,732
Unfortunately, colonies appear
to have to fight for their freedom.
901
01:09:46,836 --> 01:09:49,568
It is never granted willingly.
They must struggle for it.
902
01:09:49,673 --> 01:09:51,007
Liam...
903
01:09:51,466 --> 01:09:54,198
Do you know why Paul
was with Mr. Molloy that morning?
904
01:09:54,302 --> 01:09:57,743
Yes. Molloy was taking him
to meet Harris, in fact.
905
01:09:57,847 --> 01:09:59,933
- Where?
- At a safe house.
906
01:10:00,308 --> 01:10:01,372
That you provided?
907
01:10:01,476 --> 01:10:05,230
- Yes. Our interests coincided.
- In what way?
908
01:10:06,273 --> 01:10:08,858
Let's just say that our enemies
became his enemies.
909
01:10:09,317 --> 01:10:11,111
Where is he, Liam?
910
01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:15,428
He's out the back here, waitin' for you.
If you like, we'll go now and see him.
911
01:10:15,532 --> 01:10:17,784
- Yes.
- Good, then. Come on.
912
01:10:24,791 --> 01:10:26,897
"Gloucester's crumbling
pushed us westward
913
01:10:27,002 --> 01:10:30,276
"To liberate all the Irish
Some of us that came to fight
914
01:10:30,380 --> 01:10:32,799
"From Tipperary mountainside"
915
01:10:36,970 --> 01:10:38,388
Here's your visitors now.
916
01:10:39,431 --> 01:10:42,246
- Thank you, Liam.
- Okay. I'll leave you to it.
917
01:10:42,350 --> 01:10:43,602
Thank you.
918
01:10:44,311 --> 01:10:46,438
- Harris?
- Yes.
919
01:10:47,564 --> 01:10:51,151
- How much has Liam told you?
- Only that Molloy brought you here...
920
01:10:51,276 --> 01:10:54,258
and that you were sheltered by the IRA.
921
01:10:54,362 --> 01:10:57,782
- And you find that reprehensible?
- For Molloy? No.
922
01:10:58,074 --> 01:10:59,847
No. He has his loyalties.
923
01:10:59,951 --> 01:11:04,080
But for you, an officer serving
in the British Army, yes.
924
01:11:09,878 --> 01:11:12,651
I am terribly sorry about what happened.
925
01:11:12,756 --> 01:11:15,050
I really didn't think
they'd go that far.
926
01:11:15,926 --> 01:11:18,261
Why did you want to see Paul?
927
01:11:18,553 --> 01:11:22,307
- I gave him a tape. Didn't you know that?
- Not till later.
928
01:11:24,517 --> 01:11:26,165
Coming here could cost me my life.
929
01:11:26,269 --> 01:11:30,440
Mine, too, but unlike you,
I don't have the IRA to protect me.
930
01:11:30,565 --> 01:11:32,776
I gave the IRA nothing.
931
01:11:49,918 --> 01:11:52,983
I was an Army Intelligence officer
co-opted to work with Ml6...
932
01:11:53,088 --> 01:11:54,798
and Ml5 when they took over.
933
01:11:54,923 --> 01:11:56,299
PSYOPS.
934
01:11:56,758 --> 01:11:59,844
Our cover name was
"Information Policy Unit".
935
01:12:00,345 --> 01:12:03,494
Our official function was
to liaise with the press...
936
01:12:03,598 --> 01:12:06,643
and prepare public relations programs.
937
01:12:07,310 --> 01:12:08,937
And unofficial?
938
01:12:09,521 --> 01:12:11,335
We had our own printing press.
939
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,026
We'd forge documents
attributed to Republican sources.
940
01:12:15,318 --> 01:12:19,301
We'd provide material for the media:
Newspapers, magazines, television.
941
01:12:19,406 --> 01:12:20,970
- Black propaganda?
- Yes.
942
01:12:21,074 --> 01:12:23,076
What kind of material?
943
01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:26,350
Whatever we thought was necessary.
944
01:12:26,454 --> 01:12:29,791
We'd invent stories,
leak truths, leak lies...
945
01:12:30,292 --> 01:12:31,501
leak half-truths.
946
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,379
Accountable to the politicians.
947
01:12:36,172 --> 01:12:38,800
Let us get one thing straight, Kerrigan.
948
01:12:39,009 --> 01:12:41,157
We were accountable to no one.
949
01:12:41,261 --> 01:12:45,327
The Prime Minister, Parliament, the courts,
the great British public...
950
01:12:45,432 --> 01:12:49,352
It made no difference.
They were all there to be manipulated.
951
01:12:49,519 --> 01:12:53,607
- And that didn't bother you?
- Not against the IRA, it didn't.
952
01:12:54,608 --> 01:12:57,652
But during the election of '74...
953
01:12:59,154 --> 01:13:01,927
our work became increasingly political.
954
01:13:02,032 --> 01:13:04,054
Ml5 were running things.
955
01:13:04,159 --> 01:13:06,369
Our long-term objectives were abandoned.
956
01:13:06,536 --> 01:13:10,123
The new emphasis was on
assassination teams, bounty hunters.
957
01:13:10,582 --> 01:13:13,168
But the PSYOPS unit
continued to operate?
958
01:13:13,418 --> 01:13:15,879
Yes, but with fresh targets.
959
01:13:16,963 --> 01:13:20,863
During the '70s, the Conservative Party
was demoralized and divided.
960
01:13:20,967 --> 01:13:22,948
They saw their party leader,
Edward Heath...
961
01:13:23,053 --> 01:13:26,410
cave in against the miners' strike
of '74 and were searching for...
962
01:13:26,514 --> 01:13:29,184
a new leader from the hard right.
963
01:13:31,603 --> 01:13:34,856
We circulated stories
about his private life.
964
01:13:35,565 --> 01:13:36,650
Heath was dumped.
965
01:13:36,900 --> 01:13:39,027
And replaced by Thatcher.
966
01:13:39,194 --> 01:13:41,217
Yeah, but that wasn't enough.
967
01:13:41,321 --> 01:13:43,928
There was concern
amongst business and the military...
968
01:13:44,032 --> 01:13:46,514
that Labour were heading for
a third term in office.
969
01:13:46,618 --> 01:13:49,100
The moderates would be replaced
by the left-wingers...
970
01:13:49,204 --> 01:13:52,686
who, in turn, would be opposed
to NATO and nuclear weapons.
971
01:13:52,791 --> 01:13:57,128
Remember, inflation was running rife,
industry was crippled by strikes.
972
01:13:57,462 --> 01:13:59,610
What is this leading up to?
973
01:13:59,714 --> 01:14:01,466
Treason, Mr. Kerrigan.
974
01:14:02,384 --> 01:14:05,699
Pressure came from the CIA
to get rid of the Labour government.
975
01:14:05,804 --> 01:14:06,846
Jesus.
976
01:14:07,222 --> 01:14:10,413
They fed information to Ml5
that Prime Minister Wilson...
977
01:14:10,517 --> 01:14:12,519
was a KGB agent.
978
01:14:12,894 --> 01:14:15,689
It was a joint CIA-Ml5 operation...
979
01:14:16,147 --> 01:14:18,191
supported by others in Whitehall.
980
01:14:18,650 --> 01:14:21,695
Yeah, the whole bag
of dirty tricks was used:
981
01:14:22,612 --> 01:14:27,158
Smears, break-ins, burglaries,
phone-tapping, blackmail, disinformation.
982
01:14:31,580 --> 01:14:34,854
- If what you say is true...
- It all landed on my desk.
983
01:14:34,958 --> 01:14:38,044
- And you believed it?
- I did when it was used by Alec Nevin...
984
01:14:38,587 --> 01:14:41,318
the future Prime Minister's
closest political ally...
985
01:14:41,423 --> 01:14:45,072
the principal architect
of her victory over Edward Heath.
986
01:14:45,176 --> 01:14:48,471
You're saying that Thatcher
was involved in this?
987
01:14:50,849 --> 01:14:53,852
No, but she was the main beneficiary.
988
01:14:55,937 --> 01:15:00,379
The files and documents I got from Ml5
I turned into articles and essays...
989
01:15:00,483 --> 01:15:02,444
for selected journalists...
990
01:15:02,736 --> 01:15:04,821
and speeches for Alec Nevin.
991
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,952
- Why should I believe you?
- Because it's all on the tape.
992
01:15:11,620 --> 01:15:14,101
Why else do you think
they tried to get rid of me?
993
01:15:14,205 --> 01:15:16,687
If this comes out,
with Nevin's explicit connections...
994
01:15:16,791 --> 01:15:19,690
to the Prime Minister,
the spotlight falls on Number 10.
995
01:15:19,794 --> 01:15:23,006
- That's why his name is on the list.
- What list?
996
01:15:23,381 --> 01:15:25,759
Paul made a list of six names.
997
01:15:28,553 --> 01:15:31,368
- Do you have them with you?
- I took them.
998
01:15:31,473 --> 01:15:34,121
Then I suggest you study that list
very carefully.
999
01:15:34,225 --> 01:15:36,811
- Why?
- Because they are the prime movers...
1000
01:15:37,354 --> 01:15:41,087
Nevin's ideological counterparts
in business, industry, the military.
1001
01:15:41,191 --> 01:15:43,130
Together they form the nucleus.
1002
01:15:43,235 --> 01:15:45,382
Their priority was to
wreck Labour's chances
1003
01:15:45,487 --> 01:15:47,134
of winning another general election...
1004
01:15:47,239 --> 01:15:49,804
and if necessary,
were prepared to go even further.
1005
01:15:49,908 --> 01:15:52,389
You want wrapping up in a blanket.
1006
01:15:52,494 --> 01:15:56,060
Paul knew this. He heard the tape.
He had the tape.
1007
01:15:56,164 --> 01:15:58,771
- That's why they murdered him.
- I think you're insane.
1008
01:15:58,875 --> 01:15:59,897
I can prove it.
1009
01:16:00,001 --> 01:16:03,546
- Why would he lie?
- I don't know: Guilt, pressure...
1010
01:16:05,507 --> 01:16:07,113
acute paranoia.
1011
01:16:07,217 --> 01:16:09,365
- I'm as sane as you are.
- And I believe him.
1012
01:16:09,469 --> 01:16:11,409
It couldn't happen.
1013
01:16:11,513 --> 01:16:12,847
It did.
1014
01:16:24,901 --> 01:16:26,903
Why didn't you resign?
1015
01:16:30,865 --> 01:16:32,909
I was a career officer.
1016
01:16:34,119 --> 01:16:37,038
One hoped
that the situation would change.
1017
01:16:38,206 --> 01:16:41,126
But I also saw what happened
to people in a similar position.
1018
01:16:41,585 --> 01:16:43,336
Good men ruined.
1019
01:16:43,461 --> 01:16:45,088
So you went along with it?
1020
01:16:45,672 --> 01:16:46,840
No.
1021
01:16:47,424 --> 01:16:51,636
I asked questions about it.
At first, they were very understanding.
1022
01:16:51,845 --> 01:16:55,619
They said I was suffering from stress,
mental fatigue, physical exhaustion.
1023
01:16:55,724 --> 01:16:57,913
That I needed a break
from Northern Ireland.
1024
01:16:58,018 --> 01:16:59,790
So they sent me to the mainland...
1025
01:16:59,894 --> 01:17:03,231
as an instructor
to the School of Intelligence.
1026
01:17:06,026 --> 01:17:08,612
In late '77, I was posted back here.
1027
01:17:10,530 --> 01:17:14,451
- How did they find out about this tape?
- Because I behaved stupidly.
1028
01:17:14,784 --> 01:17:17,808
Instead of keeping my head down,
I had a row about it all.
1029
01:17:17,913 --> 01:17:20,394
Consequently,
I was put under close surveillance.
1030
01:17:20,498 --> 01:17:23,147
Mail was opened, phones were tapped.
1031
01:17:23,251 --> 01:17:26,025
They searched my room
and found a backup copy of the tape...
1032
01:17:26,129 --> 01:17:28,089
stitched in the lining of my beret.
1033
01:17:28,256 --> 01:17:31,009
So I took the original tape and ran.
1034
01:17:32,260 --> 01:17:33,595
Still running.
1035
01:17:35,430 --> 01:17:37,641
You say you have this tape?
1036
01:17:38,725 --> 01:17:43,563
It's all there: Names, dates.
I bugged their meetings.
1037
01:17:43,813 --> 01:17:45,669
I wanted Sullivan to publicize it.
1038
01:17:45,774 --> 01:17:48,255
Being an American citizen
and a civil rights lawyer...
1039
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:49,840
I thought he was beyond reach.
1040
01:17:49,945 --> 01:17:51,571
You were wrong.
1041
01:17:53,949 --> 01:17:57,556
I'm afraid media exposure
is the only protection I have.
1042
01:17:57,661 --> 01:17:59,204
Do you have it with you?
1043
01:18:01,665 --> 01:18:03,708
I have certain demands.
1044
01:18:04,084 --> 01:18:05,064
What demands?
1045
01:18:05,168 --> 01:18:08,275
When I deliver the tape,
I want to be taken into protective custody.
1046
01:18:08,380 --> 01:18:11,195
And I want you, Ms. Jessner,
to make it public.
1047
01:18:11,299 --> 01:18:13,364
- Agreed.
- I can't do that.
1048
01:18:13,468 --> 01:18:14,844
Why not?
1049
01:18:15,637 --> 01:18:19,599
Because he's not under my authority.
He's military personnel.
1050
01:18:19,766 --> 01:18:23,541
You were brought here
to investigate Paul Sullivan's death.
1051
01:18:23,645 --> 01:18:26,398
He was murdered because of that tape.
1052
01:18:28,525 --> 01:18:31,486
- Where is it?
- Do I have your agreement?
1053
01:18:34,739 --> 01:18:35,949
Yes.
1054
01:18:39,452 --> 01:18:40,787
Dublin.
1055
01:18:41,162 --> 01:18:43,102
The IRA found me a safe house.
1056
01:18:43,206 --> 01:18:45,646
They're hoping I'll come
to a prearranged meeting...
1057
01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:47,565
and denounce British imperialism.
1058
01:18:47,669 --> 01:18:50,109
- When can we have it?
- You'll have to come to Dublin.
1059
01:18:50,213 --> 01:18:52,111
- When?
- Day after tomorrow.
1060
01:18:52,215 --> 01:18:53,508
Where?
1061
01:18:55,510 --> 01:18:58,471
- O'Connell Bridge, 11:00 a.m.
- We'll be there.
1062
01:19:02,642 --> 01:19:04,269
One last thing.
1063
01:19:04,978 --> 01:19:06,730
Nevin has a man working for him.
1064
01:19:06,855 --> 01:19:10,066
His name is McKee,
a former member of the SAS.
1065
01:19:11,192 --> 01:19:14,029
- Look out for him.
- What's he look like?
1066
01:19:14,946 --> 01:19:18,116
Big man, tall, bland face,
thinning hair.
1067
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,162
He's quite ruthless,
capable of anything.
1068
01:19:39,721 --> 01:19:43,245
Am I wrong, Mr. Kerrigan,
or is it illegal to kill people...
1069
01:19:43,350 --> 01:19:44,914
and try to steal a country?
1070
01:19:45,018 --> 01:19:48,813
Don't assume it happened
just because Harris said it did.
1071
01:19:49,147 --> 01:19:52,171
Paul's dead! Molloy's dead!
That happened.
1072
01:19:52,275 --> 01:19:55,320
Save your outrage
till we've heard the tape.
1073
01:19:59,991 --> 01:20:02,223
- Good evening, love.
- Good evening, sir.
1074
01:20:02,327 --> 01:20:03,328
Thank you.
1075
01:20:03,870 --> 01:20:06,998
- Have you seen Mr. Maxwell?
- He's in the bar, sir.
1076
01:20:16,675 --> 01:20:19,761
- How'd it go?
- It was interesting.
1077
01:20:20,262 --> 01:20:21,659
Did you see Harris?
1078
01:20:21,763 --> 01:20:23,890
Yes. He didn't have the tape.
1079
01:20:24,474 --> 01:20:26,726
You've had a call from Ml5.
1080
01:20:26,977 --> 01:20:28,937
The spook department?
1081
01:20:29,813 --> 01:20:32,065
- Who?
- Sir Robert Neil.
1082
01:20:32,274 --> 01:20:36,570
He wants to meet you for lunch tomorrow.
He's sending his car at 12:00.
1083
01:20:39,698 --> 01:20:42,617
- Time for a drink?
- No. I've had enough.
1084
01:20:43,451 --> 01:20:45,412
You two okay?
1085
01:20:46,496 --> 01:20:49,165
- Yes, thank you, Mr. Kerrigan.
- Fine.
1086
01:20:50,250 --> 01:20:53,169
- Mind how you go.
- See you in the morning.
1087
01:21:20,488 --> 01:21:23,491
- Good morning, Mr. Kerrigan.
- Good morning.
1088
01:21:28,413 --> 01:21:30,060
- Come in, Mr. Kerrigan.
- Sir Robert.
1089
01:21:30,165 --> 01:21:32,292
Marvelous day. This way.
1090
01:21:39,591 --> 01:21:40,926
Do you know Alec Nevin?
1091
01:21:41,801 --> 01:21:44,241
No, I don't believe we've met.
1092
01:21:44,346 --> 01:21:47,203
I'm delighted to meet you.
I've heard a great deal about you.
1093
01:21:47,307 --> 01:21:48,934
How do you do?
1094
01:21:49,184 --> 01:21:52,187
- Sherry?
- No, thank you.
1095
01:22:09,287 --> 01:22:11,831
You've got your coffee, have you?
1096
01:22:12,749 --> 01:22:17,295
So, Mr. Kerrigan,
how has your inquiry progressed?
1097
01:22:19,214 --> 01:22:21,904
Sullivan and Molloy were killed
because of a tape.
1098
01:22:22,008 --> 01:22:23,510
What tape?
1099
01:22:23,969 --> 01:22:25,408
According to a Capt. Harris...
1100
01:22:25,512 --> 01:22:27,493
- You've met him?
- Last night.
1101
01:22:27,597 --> 01:22:29,015
Go on.
1102
01:22:30,267 --> 01:22:33,395
- Your name surfaced, Mr. Nevin.
- Really?
1103
01:22:35,563 --> 01:22:39,130
He claims that he possesses a tape
which will prove that you and others...
1104
01:22:39,234 --> 01:22:42,821
conspired to destabilize
the last Labour government.
1105
01:22:44,239 --> 01:22:47,054
He says he gave a copy of this tape
to Paul Sullivan...
1106
01:22:47,158 --> 01:22:50,412
hoping he would publicize it,
and that's why Sullivan was killed.
1107
01:22:50,787 --> 01:22:55,458
- You've not heard the tape then?
- Not yet, but I will.
1108
01:22:56,084 --> 01:22:59,296
- You're seeing Harris again?
- I can't tell you.
1109
01:23:00,839 --> 01:23:03,779
Although he was strictly Army,
Harris worked for me.
1110
01:23:03,883 --> 01:23:05,885
Yes, I know.
1111
01:23:07,762 --> 01:23:11,933
- He was rather good at what he did.
- He was a traitorous bastard.
1112
01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:13,998
When I arrived just now...
1113
01:23:14,102 --> 01:23:17,918
there was a man who greeted me
at the car: Tall, thinning hair.
1114
01:23:18,023 --> 01:23:20,880
- What about him?
- I might want to question him.
1115
01:23:20,984 --> 01:23:23,674
After the tape was taken
from Sullivan's body...
1116
01:23:23,778 --> 01:23:26,677
the police gave it to someone
answering his description.
1117
01:23:26,781 --> 01:23:30,681
I have four witnesses to identify him.
Did he give the tape to you?
1118
01:23:30,785 --> 01:23:34,205
- Are you interrogating me?
- Are you obstructing me?
1119
01:23:36,541 --> 01:23:41,129
If you let me listen to that tape,
I can eliminate Harris from my inquiry.
1120
01:23:42,047 --> 01:23:43,673
You have no choice, Alec.
1121
01:23:44,674 --> 01:23:47,928
Do you remember the
disorders of the 1970s...
1122
01:23:48,637 --> 01:23:50,034
Mr. Kerrigan?
1123
01:23:50,138 --> 01:23:52,349
The kind of chaos we faced...
1124
01:23:52,724 --> 01:23:54,893
strikes, riots...
1125
01:23:55,685 --> 01:23:58,918
miners bringing down
a Conservative government...
1126
01:23:59,022 --> 01:24:03,214
inflation going through the roof,
our European creditors...
1127
01:24:03,318 --> 01:24:05,111
queuing up to pounce on us?
1128
01:24:05,528 --> 01:24:08,448
How Europe enjoyed our discomfiture.
1129
01:24:10,283 --> 01:24:12,953
Instead of just letting it happen...
1130
01:24:14,204 --> 01:24:17,707
a few of us got together
to do something about it.
1131
01:24:17,999 --> 01:24:20,794
So there was a conspiracy.
1132
01:24:21,378 --> 01:24:25,986
- My dear chap, politics is a conspiracy.
- The point is, our paths converge.
1133
01:24:26,091 --> 01:24:28,739
- In what way?
- We both serve the state.
1134
01:24:28,843 --> 01:24:31,554
No, I defend the state.
1135
01:24:32,264 --> 01:24:33,911
You subvert it.
1136
01:24:34,015 --> 01:24:37,102
All right, let's be frank
with one another.
1137
01:24:37,727 --> 01:24:42,440
Illegal methods were used in an attempt
to bring down the Labour government.
1138
01:24:42,565 --> 01:24:44,859
But that's all in the past.
1139
01:24:44,985 --> 01:24:48,008
Do you think by scrutinizing
mistakes made...
1140
01:24:48,113 --> 01:24:51,408
you'll help restore
respect for law and order?
1141
01:24:53,118 --> 01:24:56,037
Don't play hide and seek
with reality, Mr. Kerrigan.
1142
01:24:56,746 --> 01:25:00,375
If you want to see the release of that
tape, and its contents made public...
1143
01:25:00,667 --> 01:25:02,106
go right ahead.
1144
01:25:02,210 --> 01:25:04,462
But first, consider the consequences.
1145
01:25:04,963 --> 01:25:07,653
Every agitator, every intellectual...
1146
01:25:07,757 --> 01:25:11,115
every bleeding-heart liberal
with his rhetoric about civil rights...
1147
01:25:11,219 --> 01:25:12,950
will seize on it.
1148
01:25:13,054 --> 01:25:15,640
Now, you say you defend the state.
1149
01:25:16,308 --> 01:25:17,350
So do I.
1150
01:25:17,976 --> 01:25:21,313
But Parliament and its institutions
are the state.
1151
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:24,357
And anything that threatens
the government...
1152
01:25:24,733 --> 01:25:28,153
the rule of law,
the credibility of Parliament...
1153
01:25:28,403 --> 01:25:30,697
is a threat to the state.
1154
01:25:31,406 --> 01:25:33,825
Leave well alone, Mr. Kerrigan.
1155
01:25:33,950 --> 01:25:37,245
Let the historians discover it
in 50 years' time.
1156
01:25:38,622 --> 01:25:41,937
- Our duty is to protect Number 10.
- It wouldn't be published anyway.
1157
01:25:42,042 --> 01:25:44,857
Strictly speaking,
it's none of your concern.
1158
01:25:44,961 --> 01:25:47,443
It's an intelligence matter,
outside your jurisdiction.
1159
01:25:47,547 --> 01:25:49,612
- I don't accept that.
- Accept this...
1160
01:25:49,716 --> 01:25:53,157
What Alec and the others did
eight years ago was terribly wrong.
1161
01:25:53,261 --> 01:25:56,494
It wasn't just terribly wrong.
It was criminal.
1162
01:25:56,598 --> 01:25:59,121
It was wrong for the right reasons.
1163
01:25:59,225 --> 01:26:02,583
These were, and still are,
honorable men.
1164
01:26:02,687 --> 01:26:05,649
- They broke the law.
- We've agreed on that.
1165
01:26:06,149 --> 01:26:08,839
But tell me,
as a professional policeman...
1166
01:26:08,944 --> 01:26:13,052
don't you find that hardened criminals
often benefit from the restraints...
1167
01:26:13,156 --> 01:26:15,763
imposed on the police by the courts?
1168
01:26:15,867 --> 01:26:17,181
Absolutely, yes.
1169
01:26:17,285 --> 01:26:22,082
And when, to secure a conviction,
the police remove those constraints...
1170
01:26:22,457 --> 01:26:25,689
when, for example,
they illegally tap a phone...
1171
01:26:25,794 --> 01:26:30,382
to apprehend political terrorists
whose aim is to overthrow democracy...
1172
01:26:31,466 --> 01:26:33,510
is this ever justified?
1173
01:26:34,177 --> 01:26:36,179
It depends on the circumstances.
1174
01:26:36,638 --> 01:26:38,723
Let's be more specific.
1175
01:26:39,140 --> 01:26:42,269
In 1974,
the IRA blew up a Birmingham pub.
1176
01:26:42,894 --> 01:26:46,648
21 young people were killed.
162 were injured.
1177
01:26:47,649 --> 01:26:52,112
The police, your colleagues,
arrested six Irishmen.
1178
01:26:53,363 --> 01:26:56,470
They were subjected to
what is euphemistically referred to...
1179
01:26:56,575 --> 01:26:58,368
as "in-depth interrogation".
1180
01:26:58,827 --> 01:27:01,058
They kicked the hell out of
the murdering swine.
1181
01:27:01,162 --> 01:27:04,624
- And obtained a confession.
- Which held up in court.
1182
01:27:05,125 --> 01:27:06,960
Was that justified?
1183
01:27:07,210 --> 01:27:09,942
If they did that,
then they were out of order.
1184
01:27:10,046 --> 01:27:11,902
Tell that to the people of Birmingham.
1185
01:27:12,007 --> 01:27:13,821
The point I'm trying to make...
1186
01:27:13,925 --> 01:27:17,241
I understand the point
you're trying to make, Sir Robert.
1187
01:27:17,345 --> 01:27:21,141
That to maintain the system, the abuse
of power is sometimes necessary.
1188
01:27:21,266 --> 01:27:22,475
Yes.
1189
01:27:22,892 --> 01:27:26,855
It allows us to enjoy the freedom
of living in a free society.
1190
01:27:27,897 --> 01:27:30,734
A price the public are prepared to pay.
1191
01:27:31,318 --> 01:27:33,528
That's a dangerous concept.
1192
01:27:33,737 --> 01:27:35,697
But a realistic one.
1193
01:27:38,783 --> 01:27:41,015
You're forgetting one thing.
1194
01:27:41,119 --> 01:27:43,601
What's to stop Harris
from making copies of the tape?
1195
01:27:43,705 --> 01:27:48,397
Nothing at all, except without Harris,
there's no authenticity, no documentation.
1196
01:27:48,501 --> 01:27:51,546
Everyone would think it was an IRA fake.
1197
01:27:53,340 --> 01:27:55,008
And my investigation?
1198
01:27:55,967 --> 01:27:59,638
I have a solution
that is both effective and acceptable.
1199
01:28:00,055 --> 01:28:03,141
You have the culprits
that did the shooting.
1200
01:28:03,808 --> 01:28:05,268
Nail them.
1201
01:28:13,944 --> 01:28:16,238
It really is a gorgeous day.
1202
01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:20,867
You know, Ireland would be a lovely place
if it wasn't for the Irish.
1203
01:28:24,996 --> 01:28:27,916
Was Ms. Jessner with you
when you met Harris?
1204
01:28:28,124 --> 01:28:29,209
Yes.
1205
01:28:29,751 --> 01:28:32,629
I wonder why Harris chose Paul Sullivan.
1206
01:28:35,257 --> 01:28:38,656
Did you know, before she met him,
she lived with a Communist?
1207
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,325
- No, I didn't.
- It was all rather sad.
1208
01:28:41,429 --> 01:28:43,932
A Chilean. She had an abortion.
1209
01:28:46,935 --> 01:28:49,729
There is something I want to show you.
1210
01:28:54,985 --> 01:28:57,362
Not very pleasant, I'm afraid.
1211
01:29:03,076 --> 01:29:06,746
Liam Philbin.
Served seven years in H-Block.
1212
01:29:07,247 --> 01:29:09,749
Suspected of murdering two policemen.
1213
01:29:10,834 --> 01:29:13,983
That's you making a contribution
to IRA funds...
1214
01:29:14,087 --> 01:29:16,256
unintentionally, of course.
1215
01:29:18,717 --> 01:29:20,969
These make my stomach turn.
1216
01:29:24,389 --> 01:29:27,934
Alec wanted to turn them over
to his newspaper friends.
1217
01:29:28,059 --> 01:29:30,145
I persuaded him not to.
1218
01:29:30,645 --> 01:29:33,690
Apart from the damage
it could do to your career...
1219
01:29:34,774 --> 01:29:37,527
I'm a family man myself, Mr. Kerrigan.
1220
01:29:38,236 --> 01:29:42,198
I know the harm this sort of thing
can do to a happy marriage.
1221
01:29:43,199 --> 01:29:44,659
Take them.
1222
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:46,578
Who keeps the negatives?
1223
01:29:47,662 --> 01:29:49,414
Alec keeps them.
1224
01:29:52,751 --> 01:29:54,169
Fuck you.
1225
01:29:57,631 --> 01:30:00,133
First, they threw the book at me.
1226
01:30:00,508 --> 01:30:02,281
Not in the national interest.
1227
01:30:02,385 --> 01:30:04,054
Violation of security.
1228
01:30:04,471 --> 01:30:05,639
Then...
1229
01:30:07,682 --> 01:30:11,019
this infantile,
laughable comic-book stuff.
1230
01:30:13,438 --> 01:30:15,857
Don't underestimate it, Peter.
1231
01:30:17,525 --> 01:30:21,905
I've been a policeman for 26 years.
I've never met anything like this.
1232
01:30:25,492 --> 01:30:28,140
If you go to Dublin,
see him, get the tape.
1233
01:30:28,245 --> 01:30:30,684
Neil would argue
it was used for intelligence...
1234
01:30:30,789 --> 01:30:34,542
and that it couldn't be admitted
in court as evidence.
1235
01:30:36,086 --> 01:30:38,234
So what are we left with?
1236
01:30:38,338 --> 01:30:39,360
The shooting.
1237
01:30:39,464 --> 01:30:41,570
Which is flameproof.
We have the statements...
1238
01:30:41,675 --> 01:30:43,885
Which we can make stick...
1239
01:30:44,594 --> 01:30:47,451
provided we make
no references to the tape.
1240
01:30:47,555 --> 01:30:49,808
Concession offered by Neil.
1241
01:30:54,187 --> 01:30:55,480
Jesus.
1242
01:30:56,898 --> 01:30:58,900
What does that make me?
1243
01:31:01,069 --> 01:31:04,051
I came here as the cop
that couldn't be bought.
1244
01:31:04,155 --> 01:31:07,867
- Nobody bought you.
- I've been manipulated from day one...
1245
01:31:08,785 --> 01:31:10,870
put through the hoop.
1246
01:31:17,085 --> 01:31:21,047
What happens if I choose
to take this to the limit...
1247
01:31:23,675 --> 01:31:25,677
to the powers that be?
1248
01:31:26,928 --> 01:31:29,055
What support would I get?
1249
01:31:30,557 --> 01:31:32,017
Too risky.
1250
01:31:32,726 --> 01:31:35,875
You blow the whistle,
when the shouting stopped...
1251
01:31:35,979 --> 01:31:38,502
they reach an accommodation...
1252
01:31:38,607 --> 01:31:40,483
you're finished.
1253
01:31:42,235 --> 01:31:44,738
You know, Tom, I think I am naive.
1254
01:31:45,447 --> 01:31:46,385
I've always believed...
1255
01:31:46,489 --> 01:31:49,346
that given half a chance,
the system would work.
1256
01:31:49,451 --> 01:31:52,183
Look, we've got the men
who did the shooting.
1257
01:31:52,287 --> 01:31:54,831
- Everything I've stood for...
- Our job's done.
1258
01:31:54,956 --> 01:31:56,082
No.
1259
01:31:57,125 --> 01:31:59,002
That's unacceptable.
1260
01:32:00,795 --> 01:32:04,132
I walk away from this,
it's a lifetime wasted.
1261
01:32:06,593 --> 01:32:07,907
They want this thing buried...
1262
01:32:08,011 --> 01:32:10,534
and if necessary,
they will bury you alongside it.
1263
01:32:10,639 --> 01:32:13,746
- But there was a conspiracy.
- What proof have we got?
1264
01:32:13,850 --> 01:32:16,394
- Neil admitted it.
- He'll deny it.
1265
01:32:16,937 --> 01:32:19,773
That conversation never took place.
1266
01:32:23,151 --> 01:32:25,487
Turn your back on this, Peter.
1267
01:32:30,158 --> 01:32:33,078
What about Ingrid Jessner?
What about her?
1268
01:32:33,245 --> 01:32:34,996
Not your problem.
1269
01:32:35,747 --> 01:32:39,480
This is all politics.
We have the men that did the shooting.
1270
01:32:39,584 --> 01:32:41,816
Are you willing to settle for that?
1271
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:43,797
What else is there?
1272
01:32:44,506 --> 01:32:45,966
And if I persist?
1273
01:32:47,050 --> 01:32:49,719
Then you're on a hiding to nothing.
1274
01:32:51,179 --> 01:32:52,806
What about you?
1275
01:32:54,015 --> 01:32:56,643
- I'm a career policeman.
- So was I.
1276
01:33:01,231 --> 01:33:03,024
I'm sorry, Peter.
1277
01:33:03,316 --> 01:33:06,528
I'm not prepared to risk my future,
not in this.
1278
01:33:10,991 --> 01:33:12,492
Thanks, Tom.
1279
01:33:13,785 --> 01:33:16,037
You've just proved my point.
1280
01:34:18,016 --> 01:34:20,998
Listen, if a Mr. Kerrigan calls,
will you tell him I've left?
1281
01:34:21,102 --> 01:34:23,188
- Yes, certainly.
- Thanks.
1282
01:34:23,605 --> 01:34:26,337
Ms. Jessner?
I'm Mr. Kerrigan's secretary.
1283
01:34:26,441 --> 01:34:28,777
He asked me to give you that.
1284
01:34:43,625 --> 01:34:45,126
Any message?
1285
01:34:45,669 --> 01:34:48,755
- When's his flight?
- Mid-afternoon, I expect.
1286
01:34:50,423 --> 01:34:51,758
Thanks.
1287
01:35:08,191 --> 01:35:10,068
Echo 1 to Control.
1288
01:35:10,443 --> 01:35:13,613
- Go ahead, Echo 1.
- We're on the Dublin Road.
1289
01:35:15,073 --> 01:35:17,158
Are the others in place?
1290
01:35:18,535 --> 01:35:19,744
Yes.
1291
01:35:20,328 --> 01:35:22,289
Signing off now, Control.
1292
01:35:23,164 --> 01:35:26,063
Give it another minute,
then overtake her quite quickly.
1293
01:35:26,167 --> 01:35:28,378
I want to get ahead of her.
1294
01:35:42,058 --> 01:35:43,643
Come in, Echo 2.
1295
01:35:44,019 --> 01:35:45,145
Echo 2.
1296
01:35:45,854 --> 01:35:50,254
- Is everything all right, Echo 2?
- Yes, she's about 200 yards in front of me.
1297
01:35:50,358 --> 01:35:53,299
In a little while you'll see
a petrol station on your left.
1298
01:35:53,403 --> 01:35:56,364
You pull in,
and I'll take up the follow.
1299
01:36:45,914 --> 01:36:47,374
Echo 2...
1300
01:36:48,083 --> 01:36:49,647
she's making for the bridge.
1301
01:36:49,751 --> 01:36:51,732
I'm having trouble
gettin' through this lot.
1302
01:36:51,836 --> 01:36:53,338
Bang your fucking horn, man!
1303
01:37:17,737 --> 01:37:19,385
- Where's Kerrigan?
- I don't know.
1304
01:37:19,489 --> 01:37:22,054
- That's no answer.
- I know, I don't know where he is.
1305
01:37:22,158 --> 01:37:23,660
Let's walk.
1306
01:37:26,663 --> 01:37:29,666
- You'll see that it's published?
- I'll try.
1307
01:37:32,335 --> 01:37:34,129
Don't let me down.
1308
01:37:34,921 --> 01:37:36,298
Trust me.
1309
01:37:36,590 --> 01:37:37,591
I do.
1310
01:38:24,638 --> 01:38:26,264
Where to, love?
1311
01:38:28,016 --> 01:38:30,664
- I have to hire a car.
- You want a car-hire place?
1312
01:38:30,769 --> 01:38:33,084
- Yeah.
- Which one in particular do you want?
1313
01:38:33,188 --> 01:38:36,253
- Any one in particular?
- No. It doesn't matter. You decide.
1314
01:38:36,358 --> 01:38:39,840
Do you want an expensive car
or a cheap car?
1315
01:38:39,945 --> 01:38:41,425
It doesn't matter. I don't care.
1316
01:38:41,529 --> 01:38:44,804
Look, I've had Americans before.
I just want to know what type car...
1317
01:38:44,908 --> 01:38:45,992
Just go.
1318
01:38:46,701 --> 01:38:48,015
It doesn't matter! Just go!
1319
01:38:48,119 --> 01:38:50,810
Okay. There's a friend of mine
over at one place.
1320
01:38:50,914 --> 01:38:53,145
- Fine.
- I'll bring you there, will I?
1321
01:38:53,250 --> 01:38:54,376
Fine. Great.
1322
01:39:06,388 --> 01:39:09,036
What you will hear on this tape
is a conversation...
1323
01:39:09,140 --> 01:39:11,622
which took place at the home
of Mr. Alec Nevin.
1324
01:39:11,726 --> 01:39:14,417
Its purpose was to establish
a Conservative government...
1325
01:39:14,521 --> 01:39:17,753
with a right-wing leadership.
I had shown support...
1326
01:39:17,857 --> 01:39:20,318
and therefore was invited
to attend the meeting.
1327
01:39:20,527 --> 01:39:23,530
I wore a recording device
activated by voice.
1328
01:39:25,615 --> 01:39:29,077
Letting people off the leash a bit,
in that direction...
1329
01:39:29,744 --> 01:39:33,436
the military and our friends
in the intelligence community...
1330
01:39:33,540 --> 01:39:37,815
is really enhancing the case
for quite dramatic...
1331
01:39:37,919 --> 01:39:41,068
constitutional resolution
of this crisis...
1332
01:39:41,172 --> 01:39:43,320
Indeed.
Don't underestimate the flexibility...
1333
01:39:43,425 --> 01:39:47,324
We need to pressure the Palace into
giving legitimacy to what we need to do.
1334
01:39:47,429 --> 01:39:50,119
Indeed. You underestimate,
we all underestimate...
1335
01:39:50,223 --> 01:39:54,686
the flexibility of this constitution
of ours. We can do almost anything.
1336
01:39:55,020 --> 01:39:57,647
What are his weaknesses?
1337
01:39:58,315 --> 01:40:00,609
What can we have circulated?
1338
01:40:01,735 --> 01:40:04,905
And what rumors can we make stick?
1339
01:40:05,238 --> 01:40:09,180
We all know about Heath.
We all know what we think about him.
1340
01:40:09,284 --> 01:40:13,204
We should look to 5 to...
1341
01:40:13,997 --> 01:40:15,457
assist in this matter.
1342
01:40:16,458 --> 01:40:19,502
Can you try
Ms. Jessner's room again, please?
1343
01:40:23,715 --> 01:40:25,592
Have you paged her?
1344
01:40:27,469 --> 01:40:29,846
No. No message. Thanks.
1345
01:40:31,222 --> 01:40:34,100
- I don't suppose we'll be needing this?
- What's that?
1346
01:40:34,267 --> 01:40:37,708
It's the dossier you asked me to prepare
on those six names.
1347
01:40:37,812 --> 01:40:39,147
Thanks.
1348
01:40:40,732 --> 01:40:42,192
Insurance.
1349
01:40:42,567 --> 01:40:46,488
- Shall I take the luggage down now, sir?
- Please do.
1350
01:41:01,336 --> 01:41:03,213
It isn't your fault.
1351
01:41:05,882 --> 01:41:08,093
They must have followed her.
1352
01:41:09,761 --> 01:41:12,722
I'll pick up the rest
of this stuff later.
1353
01:41:14,391 --> 01:41:17,519
- You know about Harris?
- I heard on the radio.
1354
01:41:18,144 --> 01:41:20,751
They kneecapped him,
then they blew half his head away.
1355
01:41:20,855 --> 01:41:22,607
Typical IRA execution.
1356
01:41:28,655 --> 01:41:30,719
- What about Ingrid Jessner?
- What about her?
1357
01:41:30,824 --> 01:41:32,888
- You know, if this thing leaks out...
- It won't.
1358
01:41:32,993 --> 01:41:34,869
A crime has been committed.
1359
01:41:35,870 --> 01:41:38,686
- What crime is that?
- I'm not just talkin' about Harris.
1360
01:41:38,790 --> 01:41:41,251
Everything is covered
by the Official Secrets Act.
1361
01:41:41,418 --> 01:41:46,006
- God, you people live in the Dark Ages.
- And what about you? Listen...
1362
01:41:46,381 --> 01:41:48,779
You and I are cut from the same cloth.
1363
01:41:48,883 --> 01:41:51,219
I am what I have to be, but you?
1364
01:41:51,511 --> 01:41:55,411
You're no better.
Like me, you observe rule Number 1.
1365
01:41:55,515 --> 01:41:57,517
Keep your balls intact.
1366
01:41:58,268 --> 01:42:02,105
Have a good flight.
And don't forget to send me that report.
1367
01:42:02,355 --> 01:42:03,815
Okey-doke?
1368
01:42:05,317 --> 01:42:08,340
We need to get
some agent provocateurs into these...
1369
01:42:08,445 --> 01:42:11,969
strikes that are taking place,
local government strikes...
1370
01:42:12,073 --> 01:42:14,305
to cause a lot of
unpleasantness and disruption.
1371
01:42:14,409 --> 01:42:17,662
We need that to run through
until the election and give it a shot.
1372
01:42:18,204 --> 01:42:21,082
The question is,
can we rely upon democracy?
1373
01:42:21,416 --> 01:42:24,315
- Just my opinion, but...
- With a little push here and there.
1374
01:42:24,419 --> 01:42:27,610
Well, I agree with the little push.
1375
01:42:27,714 --> 01:42:31,155
I agree that is the point, in a way,
why we're here, isn't it?
1376
01:42:31,259 --> 01:42:35,743
If there's a run on the pound, that's fine.
If there's a lot of stuff circulating about...
1377
01:42:35,847 --> 01:42:39,538
Wilson and Moscow,
which we all know to be the case...
1378
01:42:39,643 --> 01:42:42,500
I think Wilson's somebody
we should home in very much on.
1379
01:42:42,604 --> 01:42:45,231
A lot of stuff should be
circulated about Wilson.
1380
01:42:51,988 --> 01:42:53,531
Ms. Jessner.
1381
01:42:55,033 --> 01:42:56,910
She hasn't seen us.
1382
01:42:58,828 --> 01:43:00,288
Wait here.
1383
01:43:03,959 --> 01:43:04,939
What are you doing here?
1384
01:43:05,043 --> 01:43:06,565
- Where were you?
- Did you get my note?
1385
01:43:06,670 --> 01:43:08,984
- Why did you change your mind?
- There are reasons.
1386
01:43:09,089 --> 01:43:12,008
- Tell me.
- I don't have to. I'm sorry.
1387
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:15,720
What about Mr. Nevin?
1388
01:43:15,929 --> 01:43:17,284
What about Harris?
1389
01:43:17,389 --> 01:43:19,057
Harris is dead.
1390
01:43:19,391 --> 01:43:21,080
They're blaming the IRA.
1391
01:43:21,184 --> 01:43:22,957
- But it was them!
- Please.
1392
01:43:23,061 --> 01:43:26,314
- I saw it happen!
- Please, keep your voice down.
1393
01:43:28,441 --> 01:43:30,798
- I told you not to go.
- You told me a lot of things...
1394
01:43:30,902 --> 01:43:33,321
- Did you speak to Harris?
- Yes.
1395
01:43:33,905 --> 01:43:37,325
- Did you tell them we were meeting?
- Of course not. You were followed!
1396
01:43:37,576 --> 01:43:40,120
But you did talk to them. Why?
1397
01:43:40,495 --> 01:43:43,060
- Did he give you the tape?
- You're not gonna...
1398
01:43:43,164 --> 01:43:46,647
- Are you going to do anything about this?
- There's nothing I can do.
1399
01:43:46,751 --> 01:43:48,732
They've committed murder and treason.
1400
01:43:48,837 --> 01:43:51,318
At 11:00 this morning,
a man was assassinated...
1401
01:43:51,423 --> 01:43:54,718
by orders of British Intelligence,
and you can do nothing!
1402
01:43:54,843 --> 01:43:55,844
I wish I could.
1403
01:43:56,428 --> 01:44:00,703
This is a final call for flight BTH-9
to London, Heathrow.
1404
01:44:00,807 --> 01:44:02,455
You have connections I don't have.
1405
01:44:02,559 --> 01:44:05,332
Your reputation brought you here.
People will listen to you.
1406
01:44:05,437 --> 01:44:08,127
With you as my witness?
A civil-liberties group member...
1407
01:44:08,231 --> 01:44:11,255
accusing the British government
of torture and shoot-to-kill?
1408
01:44:11,359 --> 01:44:16,197
"I don't care whose toes I tread on".
That's what you said, and I believed it.
1409
01:44:16,865 --> 01:44:19,555
- Look, I have to go.
- Go.
1410
01:44:19,659 --> 01:44:21,536
- I'm a policeman.
- Yes, you are.
1411
01:44:21,828 --> 01:44:24,268
The men responsible for Paul's death
will be charged.
1412
01:44:24,372 --> 01:44:25,936
To know and do nothing.
1413
01:44:26,041 --> 01:44:29,023
- You can't win against these people.
- To just close your eyes.
1414
01:44:29,127 --> 01:44:30,524
Forget it. Go home.
1415
01:44:30,629 --> 01:44:32,756
That's how fascism starts.
1416
01:44:33,798 --> 01:44:36,322
What do you think
of your fine British law now?
1417
01:44:36,426 --> 01:44:37,823
This has nothing to do with law.
1418
01:44:37,928 --> 01:44:40,472
- What is it then?
- It's politics.
1419
01:44:41,932 --> 01:44:45,122
To enforce the rules
of a police state is politics.
1420
01:44:45,226 --> 01:44:47,792
Good guys like you cover it up
so bad guys are safe.
1421
01:44:47,896 --> 01:44:50,690
You're a puppet, and the men
pulling the strings know it.
1422
01:44:51,650 --> 01:44:53,443
Did he give you the tape?
1423
01:44:53,902 --> 01:44:56,112
- No.
- What are you gonna do?
1424
01:44:57,739 --> 01:44:59,866
Tell people, newspapers.
1425
01:45:00,784 --> 01:45:02,786
- They won't print it.
- We'll see.
1426
01:45:06,039 --> 01:45:07,832
Go back to America.
1427
01:45:08,333 --> 01:45:11,294
Get out of Belfast.
You're in danger here.
1428
01:45:13,713 --> 01:45:16,258
Ingrid, it's finished.
1429
01:45:17,926 --> 01:45:21,388
Not for them, it isn't.
Not for Nevin and the others.
1430
01:45:22,681 --> 01:45:26,268
They're not going to disappear.
They're still in place.
1431
01:45:31,982 --> 01:45:34,317
You have a plane to catch, Mr. Kerrigan.
1432
01:45:53,670 --> 01:45:55,422
What? Yes.
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