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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,715 --> 00:00:08,260 NARRATOR: Humans are natural-born explorers. 2 00:00:08,468 --> 00:00:12,848 We charge into uncharted territory and seek out the unknown. 3 00:00:14,433 --> 00:00:16,476 We've mapped nearly every inch of Mother Earth... 4 00:00:18,478 --> 00:00:20,856 ...and left tracks on the moon. 5 00:00:21,064 --> 00:00:23,442 But to set foot on another planet... 6 00:00:23,650 --> 00:00:25,944 ...to travel beyond our solar system... 7 00:00:26,111 --> 00:00:28,614 ...that is a dream for the future. 8 00:00:33,452 --> 00:00:37,831 A dream that comes to life in the feature film Interstellar. 9 00:00:39,416 --> 00:00:45,214 BRAND: We must think not as individuals but as a species. 10 00:00:45,380 --> 00:00:49,218 We must confront the reality of interstellar travel. 11 00:00:54,223 --> 00:00:59,728 NARRATOR: The film Interstellar deals with the quest for new worlds and the fate of humanity. 12 00:01:00,479 --> 00:01:02,731 Sound like the stuff of science fiction? 13 00:01:03,315 --> 00:01:04,733 Maybe. 14 00:01:04,900 --> 00:01:09,571 But the foundations of this film are rooted in real science... 15 00:01:09,738 --> 00:01:14,326 ...thanks to the involvement of renowned astrophysicist Kip Thorne. 16 00:01:14,493 --> 00:01:18,247 In Interstellar, one of the most important features... 17 00:01:18,413 --> 00:01:22,918 ...is the way that the science is totally embedded in the film. 18 00:01:23,085 --> 00:01:24,878 There are some wild things in here. 19 00:01:26,004 --> 00:01:31,260 NARRATOR: Beyond fantasy and fiction, this is the real science of Interstellar. 20 00:01:39,768 --> 00:01:42,771 Space travel has been a staple of the movies from the very beginning... 21 00:01:42,938 --> 00:01:46,525 ...but the feature film Interstellar has a unique pedigree. 22 00:01:46,692 --> 00:01:49,444 It was inspired in part by the work of Kip Thorne... 23 00:01:51,655 --> 00:01:55,409 ...an authority on astrophysics, gravitational waves... 24 00:01:55,575 --> 00:01:58,328 ...and the warping of space-time. 25 00:01:58,495 --> 00:02:01,540 He's also an executive producer on the film. 26 00:02:01,873 --> 00:02:07,713 In Interstellar, real science was built into the fabric of the film from the outset. 27 00:02:08,213 --> 00:02:13,927 The other major players in this film, they all respected the science... 28 00:02:14,094 --> 00:02:18,015 ...and they worked with me to see that the science was well incorporated. 29 00:02:18,181 --> 00:02:24,646 Can you tell me what the easiest definition of what a singularity is? 30 00:02:24,813 --> 00:02:29,860 Kip and myself meshed well in terms of trying to use current thinking... 31 00:02:30,027 --> 00:02:33,155 ...current scientific understanding to drive the narrative. 32 00:02:33,322 --> 00:02:34,698 The language we use... 33 00:02:34,865 --> 00:02:41,204 ...is it's a place where the curvature of space and time gets infinitely high. 34 00:02:41,371 --> 00:02:42,456 So we're good, okay. 35 00:02:42,622 --> 00:02:46,835 And we just hope that the research we've done and the conversations I'd had with Kip... 36 00:02:47,002 --> 00:02:50,380 ...and that Chris had had with Kip informed the narrative... 37 00:02:50,547 --> 00:02:52,424 ...and that the audience would feel that. 38 00:02:52,591 --> 00:02:55,719 NOLAN: Why simply imagine, fantasize... 39 00:02:55,886 --> 00:02:59,514 ...about things that might happen in space or on an interstellar journey? 40 00:02:59,681 --> 00:03:02,851 Why not actually look at, uh, the real science there? 41 00:03:05,604 --> 00:03:06,980 It's an Indian surveillance drone. 42 00:03:07,147 --> 00:03:09,066 NARRATOR: Interstellar takes place in a future... 43 00:03:09,232 --> 00:03:12,986 ...where living conditions on Earth threaten the survival of humanity. 44 00:03:13,904 --> 00:03:17,032 BRAND: Your daughter's generation will be the last to survive on Earth. 45 00:03:17,199 --> 00:03:20,535 COOPER: Now you need to tell me what your plan is to save the world. 46 00:03:20,702 --> 00:03:23,914 BRAND: We're not meant to save the world, we're meant to leave it. 47 00:03:24,873 --> 00:03:28,502 One of the things that the film explores is, do we belong on Earth... 48 00:03:28,668 --> 00:03:31,797 ...and should we be staying on Earth... 49 00:03:31,963 --> 00:03:35,008 ...and if there is anything else out there, should we be exploring that? 50 00:03:35,342 --> 00:03:36,635 Here we go. 51 00:03:36,802 --> 00:03:39,429 NARRATOR: In the film, the crew seeks a new place to call home. 52 00:03:39,596 --> 00:03:41,264 A planet that can sustain life. 53 00:03:42,099 --> 00:03:43,225 Human life. 54 00:03:43,392 --> 00:03:44,643 - I'm not gonna make it! - Yes, you are. 55 00:03:44,810 --> 00:03:47,771 It's an exciting concept that there may be other worlds out there. 56 00:03:48,438 --> 00:03:51,149 Well, what are those worlds and what could they be... 57 00:03:51,316 --> 00:03:53,235 ...and is there a place for us out there? 58 00:03:53,735 --> 00:03:55,320 NARRATOR: The search for another Earth... 59 00:03:55,487 --> 00:03:58,281 ...sounds like a job for the explorers of tomorrow... 60 00:03:58,782 --> 00:04:01,576 ...but it's happening right now. 61 00:04:05,038 --> 00:04:09,251 Astrophysicist Natalie Batalha is a passionate planet hunter. 62 00:04:09,418 --> 00:04:13,171 BATALHA: I think the only way that we're going to really understand our place in the galaxy... 63 00:04:13,338 --> 00:04:18,927 ...is by looking at this broad picture and understanding the diversity of all planets. 64 00:04:19,094 --> 00:04:21,138 Twenty or 30 years ago, we didn't know... 65 00:04:21,304 --> 00:04:25,725 ...of any other planets orbiting normal stars like our own sun. 66 00:04:26,435 --> 00:04:29,312 NARRATOR: Natalie has helped rewrite that story as mission scientist... 67 00:04:29,479 --> 00:04:31,398 ...for NASA's Kepler space telescope. 68 00:04:31,565 --> 00:04:33,859 BATALHA: Kepler's objective is very simple. 69 00:04:34,025 --> 00:04:37,320 It's to determine the fraction of stars in our galaxy... 70 00:04:37,487 --> 00:04:41,283 ...that harbor potentially habitable Earth-size planets. 71 00:04:41,450 --> 00:04:43,743 NARRATOR: And what makes a planet potentially habitable? 72 00:04:43,910 --> 00:04:46,955 The one ingredient that we think is common to all life forms... 73 00:04:47,122 --> 00:04:49,791 ...is this requirement of liquid water. 74 00:04:49,958 --> 00:04:52,544 So that's why we look for planets that have rocky surfaces... 75 00:04:52,711 --> 00:04:53,879 ...where water could pool... 76 00:04:54,212 --> 00:04:57,132 ...and that are receiving the right amount of energy from the star... 77 00:04:57,299 --> 00:05:01,136 ...where the water wouldn't be locked up in a frozen state because the planet is so cold... 78 00:05:01,303 --> 00:05:04,848 ...nor would it be evaporated away because the planet is too hot. 79 00:05:05,015 --> 00:05:09,436 We call it the Goldilocks Zone, where liquid water could potentially exist. 80 00:05:10,437 --> 00:05:12,647 NARRATOR: Launched in 2009, Kepler stared... 81 00:05:12,814 --> 00:05:17,319 ...at one small patch of the Milky Way for four years straight. 82 00:05:17,486 --> 00:05:21,865 Compared to stars, planets are too tiny for Kepler to spot... 83 00:05:22,657 --> 00:05:24,159 ...but it can detect their shadows. 84 00:05:24,326 --> 00:05:29,581 BATALHA: Every planet orbiting a luminous object is casting a shadow out into space. 85 00:05:29,748 --> 00:05:32,417 The Kepler spacecraft makes use of that fact... 86 00:05:32,584 --> 00:05:37,214 ...waiting for a planet in its orbit about the star... 87 00:05:37,380 --> 00:05:41,176 ...to pass directly between the disc of the star and the spacecraft... 88 00:05:41,676 --> 00:05:46,097 ...and the telescope perceives that as a dimming of light. 89 00:05:46,264 --> 00:05:49,518 NARRATOR: This simple method has revealed thousands of exoplanets. 90 00:05:50,268 --> 00:05:53,647 Planets orbiting other stars in our galaxy. 91 00:05:53,813 --> 00:05:55,023 What we've learned so far... 92 00:05:55,190 --> 00:06:00,570 ...is that literally every star in the galaxy has at least one planet. 93 00:06:01,071 --> 00:06:05,158 There's an amazing diversity of exoplanets out there... 94 00:06:05,325 --> 00:06:07,327 ...and we've found very exotic worlds. 95 00:06:07,994 --> 00:06:12,249 Two hundred light-years away, there is a Saturn-size planet orbiting... 96 00:06:12,415 --> 00:06:14,918 ...not one, but two stars. 97 00:06:15,085 --> 00:06:18,296 So if you were living on a world like Kepler-16b... 98 00:06:18,463 --> 00:06:22,634 ...you would see in the sky two stars rising in the east, setting in the west... 99 00:06:22,801 --> 00:06:27,472 ...continuously changing position as they orbit one another. 100 00:06:30,141 --> 00:06:33,562 This is an artist's rendition of the planet Kepler-10b. 101 00:06:33,728 --> 00:06:39,901 It's orbiting 23 times closer to its parent star than Mercury is to our own sun. 102 00:06:40,068 --> 00:06:45,198 So this star-facing side is just being blasted by stellar radiation... 103 00:06:45,574 --> 00:06:49,661 ...creating temperatures in excess of that required to melt iron. 104 00:06:49,828 --> 00:06:54,124 The planet has an entire hemisphere larger than the Pacific Ocean... 105 00:06:54,291 --> 00:06:57,294 ...which is an ocean, but it's not an ocean of water. 106 00:06:57,460 --> 00:06:59,671 It's an ocean of molten lava. 107 00:07:00,714 --> 00:07:03,049 NARRATOR: Not an attractive destination. 108 00:07:04,718 --> 00:07:08,888 But Kepler recently found us a possible second home. 109 00:07:09,055 --> 00:07:12,767 This is an artist's concept of the Kepler-186 planetary system. 110 00:07:12,934 --> 00:07:15,979 Five planets orbiting this M-type star... 111 00:07:16,146 --> 00:07:20,275 ...and the outermost planet is Kepler-186f. 112 00:07:21,109 --> 00:07:26,448 Our first discovery of an Earth-size planet in the habitable zone of a normal star. 113 00:07:26,615 --> 00:07:32,370 When I think about Kepler-186f, I try to imagine it as a real place... 114 00:07:32,537 --> 00:07:34,789 ...because it is a real place. 115 00:07:34,956 --> 00:07:38,001 We know that it could be rocky, it's the same size as Earth... 116 00:07:38,168 --> 00:07:40,837 ...so I do imagine a rocky surface. 117 00:07:41,546 --> 00:07:45,592 We don't know that it has a liquid ocean, but we can certainly imagine one. 118 00:07:46,092 --> 00:07:48,428 And then, all of a sudden in your imagination... 119 00:07:48,595 --> 00:07:51,389 ...you internalize the existence of this world out there... 120 00:07:51,556 --> 00:07:54,893 ...that there is a place that could be very, very much like Earth. 121 00:07:55,977 --> 00:08:00,482 NARRATOR: So when do we set sail for these distant shores? 122 00:08:00,649 --> 00:08:02,651 Reality check. 123 00:08:02,942 --> 00:08:08,114 Kepler-186f is nearly 3 quadrillion miles from Earth. 124 00:08:08,281 --> 00:08:11,117 Otherwise put, 500 light-years away. 125 00:08:11,910 --> 00:08:16,164 That's a journey of 500 years at the speed of light. 126 00:08:16,456 --> 00:08:19,584 But no thing can travel as fast as light. 127 00:08:19,751 --> 00:08:22,754 At best, our spacecrafts are thousands of times slower. 128 00:08:23,088 --> 00:08:25,757 Even the spaceships in Interstellar don't come close. 129 00:08:25,924 --> 00:08:29,094 BRAND: We need the bravest humans to find us a new home. 130 00:08:29,260 --> 00:08:32,305 COOPER: But the nearest star is over a thousand years away. 131 00:08:32,472 --> 00:08:34,099 - Hence the bravery. - Okay. 132 00:08:34,474 --> 00:08:38,019 NARRATOR: So how do they reach new worlds beyond our solar system? 133 00:08:39,437 --> 00:08:42,816 They take a walk on the warp side of space and time. 134 00:08:47,404 --> 00:08:49,239 MURPH: You have no idea when you're coming back. 135 00:08:50,323 --> 00:08:53,201 AMELIA: Couldn't you have told her you were going to save the world? 136 00:08:53,368 --> 00:08:54,619 No. 137 00:08:56,121 --> 00:08:58,248 I'm coming back. 138 00:08:58,915 --> 00:09:04,462 NARRATOR: When we journey to a far-off place, we travel not just in space but also in time... 139 00:09:04,629 --> 00:09:07,257 ...as we move into the future. 140 00:09:08,633 --> 00:09:15,306 Until about a century ago, scientists believed that space and time were entirely separate. 141 00:09:16,266 --> 00:09:22,647 Theoretical physicist Sean Carroll explains how Albert Einstein overturned that idea. 142 00:09:23,022 --> 00:09:24,858 CARROLL: One of Einstein's great insights... 143 00:09:25,024 --> 00:09:27,485 ...was that space and time were related to each other... 144 00:09:27,652 --> 00:09:29,529 ...where you have space and you have time. 145 00:09:29,696 --> 00:09:33,450 Einstein says, "There's only one thing which we call space-time." 146 00:09:34,617 --> 00:09:37,036 And then he says, "This space-time thing... 147 00:09:37,203 --> 00:09:41,207 ...it's not just the stage on which all the action plays out. 148 00:09:41,374 --> 00:09:42,542 It's an actor itself." 149 00:09:45,712 --> 00:09:50,383 Space-time can change, it can move, it can bend, and it can warp. 150 00:09:53,678 --> 00:09:59,058 NARRATOR: Einstein's theory of relativity states that space-time is like a flexible fabric. 151 00:09:59,225 --> 00:10:06,107 The objects embedded in it: The sun, planets, even us, warp that fabric. 152 00:10:06,608 --> 00:10:10,779 And the consequence of that warping is what we call gravity. 153 00:10:10,945 --> 00:10:14,908 The more massive the object, the more space-time is warped... 154 00:10:15,074 --> 00:10:17,452 ...and the greater the gravity. 155 00:10:21,915 --> 00:10:23,416 We feel gravity. 156 00:10:25,460 --> 00:10:29,589 The flexibility of space-time is harder to grasp on a gut level... 157 00:10:29,756 --> 00:10:32,383 ...but its effects are measurable. 158 00:10:35,261 --> 00:10:41,267 As Sean demonstrates, the greater the gravity, the more slowly time flows. 159 00:10:41,434 --> 00:10:44,229 CARROLL: For example, if I were on the ground floor with a clock... 160 00:10:44,395 --> 00:10:46,397 ...a super accurate atomic clock... 161 00:10:46,564 --> 00:10:49,234 ...and a twin of mine was up on the top floor of a building... 162 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,236 ...with an equally accurate atomic clock... 163 00:10:51,402 --> 00:10:55,824 ...if we later on compared them, mine would have ticked off fewer seconds. 164 00:10:57,242 --> 00:11:01,162 NARRATOR: On the ground floor, Sean experiences slightly more gravity... 165 00:11:01,329 --> 00:11:03,540 ...than his twin on the top floor. 166 00:11:03,706 --> 00:11:07,418 He also experiences slightly less time than his twin. 167 00:11:08,127 --> 00:11:11,214 The difference is tiny, but real. 168 00:11:11,381 --> 00:11:13,341 And there are practical applications. 169 00:11:13,508 --> 00:11:17,178 CARROLL: For example, the GPS system, the Global Positioning System... 170 00:11:17,345 --> 00:11:20,557 ...that is a very, very precise set of clocks... 171 00:11:20,723 --> 00:11:23,017 ...on satellites orbiting around the Earth... 172 00:11:23,184 --> 00:11:27,397 ...and that orbit is in a slightly different gravitational field than we are in down here. 173 00:11:27,564 --> 00:11:32,151 So the fact that time moves differently here on the surface of the Earth... 174 00:11:32,318 --> 00:11:34,654 ...than in the satellite orbit, is very, very important... 175 00:11:34,821 --> 00:11:36,906 ...to getting the GPS to work correctly. 176 00:11:37,574 --> 00:11:41,744 NARRATOR: Time on a GPS satellite clock advances faster than a clock on Earth... 177 00:11:41,911 --> 00:11:44,247 ...by about 38 microseconds per day... 178 00:11:44,622 --> 00:11:47,000 ...so the system's computers correct for that. 179 00:11:49,586 --> 00:11:52,755 Motion also affects our experience of space-time. 180 00:11:52,922 --> 00:11:55,675 CARROLL: The best way to say it is just staying still... 181 00:11:55,842 --> 00:11:58,595 ...means that you experience the most time that you can. 182 00:11:58,761 --> 00:12:02,599 Moving around and doing things means you experience less time. 183 00:12:02,765 --> 00:12:07,604 NARRATOR: Let's revisit Sean at the wheel of his car and his twin on a park bench. 184 00:12:07,770 --> 00:12:10,899 If you move out on your car, and then you come back... 185 00:12:11,274 --> 00:12:13,860 ...compared to the person who stayed behind... 186 00:12:14,027 --> 00:12:16,446 ...your clock that you took with you on that journey... 187 00:12:16,613 --> 00:12:20,408 ...will have experienced a little bit less time than the one who stayed behind. 188 00:12:22,911 --> 00:12:25,914 NARRATOR: We normally move too slowly to notice the effect. 189 00:12:26,748 --> 00:12:29,959 But if Sean could drive near the speed of light... 190 00:12:31,461 --> 00:12:35,298 ...he could race across the United States and back again a million times... 191 00:12:35,465 --> 00:12:38,384 ...and experience less than a second of time... 192 00:12:38,551 --> 00:12:40,345 ...while the twin he left behind... 193 00:12:40,511 --> 00:12:43,431 ...would endure hours of waiting for Sean's return. 194 00:12:44,682 --> 00:12:49,562 In other words, Sean would've traveled into the future compared to his twin. 195 00:12:51,356 --> 00:12:53,608 This means space travel may get tricky in years to come. 196 00:12:54,525 --> 00:12:58,446 The faster our spaceships, the greater the gravity fields we encounter... 197 00:12:58,613 --> 00:13:02,492 ...the further out of sync we may become with those we leave behind. 198 00:13:02,659 --> 00:13:06,204 COOPER: So if we find a home, then what? 199 00:13:06,371 --> 00:13:08,790 Every hour is seven years back on Earth. 200 00:13:09,207 --> 00:13:14,837 NARRATOR: The relativity of time is the source of hardship and heartbreak in Interstellar. 201 00:13:16,172 --> 00:13:18,967 The theory of relativity is fascinating all by itself... 202 00:13:19,133 --> 00:13:22,053 ...but it immediately becomes something very emotional... 203 00:13:22,220 --> 00:13:25,515 ...when you talk about the distances between people. 204 00:13:26,557 --> 00:13:29,268 You know, we all spend time away from our families. 205 00:13:29,435 --> 00:13:33,982 I just thought, what if you could take that to its logical and very bittersweet extreme? 206 00:13:34,148 --> 00:13:38,403 NOLAN: For me, it was very exciting to be able to examine the concept... 207 00:13:38,569 --> 00:13:40,947 ...of the subjective experience of time. 208 00:13:41,114 --> 00:13:43,658 It's really the first time I've had an objective structure... 209 00:13:43,825 --> 00:13:46,744 ...around the film saying that time literally is relative... 210 00:13:46,911 --> 00:13:50,289 ...that we all experience time differently depending on where we are in the universe. 211 00:13:51,249 --> 00:13:54,127 NARRATOR: But the warping of space-time may also provide shortcuts... 212 00:13:54,585 --> 00:13:57,213 ...that could make interstellar travel a snap. 213 00:13:58,506 --> 00:13:59,716 Wormholes. 214 00:14:00,717 --> 00:14:02,510 They're a staple of science fiction... 215 00:14:03,928 --> 00:14:06,347 ...but they're based on real science. 216 00:14:06,973 --> 00:14:12,061 Einstein's relativistic laws govern the warping of space and time... 217 00:14:12,228 --> 00:14:16,357 ...and they say that wormholes might exist, they could exist. 218 00:14:16,816 --> 00:14:20,236 So this dates all the way back to 1916. 219 00:14:22,155 --> 00:14:26,451 CARROLL: A wormhole is a particular way that space and time can be curved. 220 00:14:26,617 --> 00:14:30,997 It's like adding a little tube that connects two parts of space. 221 00:14:31,622 --> 00:14:36,627 The basic idea is that if you're an ant and you live on the surface of the apple... 222 00:14:36,794 --> 00:14:39,422 ...the surface of the apple is your entire universe. 223 00:14:40,048 --> 00:14:44,302 You can go around the outside through the universe itself... 224 00:14:44,469 --> 00:14:47,180 ...or you can go through the wormhole. 225 00:14:47,472 --> 00:14:52,143 NARRATOR: But Einstein's equations also predict that if wormholes do form in nature... 226 00:14:52,310 --> 00:14:54,645 ...they may be subatomic in size... 227 00:14:54,812 --> 00:14:58,900 ...and exist for only fractions of a second before closing off. 228 00:15:00,234 --> 00:15:04,280 Theoretically, what would it take to keep a wormhole open... 229 00:15:04,447 --> 00:15:07,325 ...and make it big enough to accommodate a spaceship? 230 00:15:07,492 --> 00:15:10,870 THORNE: It turns out that in order to hold a wormhole open... 231 00:15:11,037 --> 00:15:14,832 ...so it doesn't crunch off and kill you when you try to go through... 232 00:15:14,999 --> 00:15:21,631 ...that you have to have the wormhole threaded by a negative mass or negative energy. 233 00:15:21,798 --> 00:15:24,008 Einstein says mass and energy are equivalent. 234 00:15:24,759 --> 00:15:30,139 NARRATOR: Almost all the forms of matter we know have positive mass and exert gravity. 235 00:15:31,557 --> 00:15:34,018 Negative mass would exert antigravity... 236 00:15:34,185 --> 00:15:37,897 ...and repel the walls of a wormhole to keep it open. 237 00:15:38,064 --> 00:15:43,402 Strangely, it is true that negative energy can exist... 238 00:15:43,569 --> 00:15:48,116 ...and it's been created in the laboratory, but only in very tiny amounts. 239 00:15:49,075 --> 00:15:50,743 NARRATOR: It would take vast quantities... 240 00:15:50,910 --> 00:15:54,413 ...to prop open a wormhole large enough for a spaceship. 241 00:15:55,081 --> 00:15:57,583 But just maybe, in the future... 242 00:15:57,750 --> 00:16:02,547 ...engineers will devise advanced technologies to do just that. 243 00:16:02,713 --> 00:16:06,926 Today it's an educated guess, maybe I should say a half-educated guess... 244 00:16:07,093 --> 00:16:10,429 ...that wormholes cannot exist in our universe... 245 00:16:10,596 --> 00:16:12,598 ...but we're far from sure of that. 246 00:16:12,765 --> 00:16:15,643 CARROLL: The truth is, we just don't know right now. 247 00:16:15,810 --> 00:16:18,563 We don't understand the laws of physics well enough to say for sure... 248 00:16:18,729 --> 00:16:20,356 ...whether or not wormholes are possible. 249 00:16:21,149 --> 00:16:25,862 NARRATOR: But since they're not impossible, they're fair game for a filmmaker. 250 00:16:26,028 --> 00:16:29,699 I was very excited about the idea of focusing on a family... 251 00:16:30,032 --> 00:16:31,617 ...who would be the pioneers... 252 00:16:31,784 --> 00:16:36,038 ...who would experience some of the extraordinary features of astrophysics... 253 00:16:36,205 --> 00:16:41,085 ...particularly the idea of a wormhole that would allow us to travel to distant stars. 254 00:16:42,795 --> 00:16:45,339 NARRATOR: To create a wormhole based on real science... 255 00:16:45,506 --> 00:16:48,759 ...Visual Effects supervisor Paul Franklin turned to Kip Thorne. 256 00:16:50,845 --> 00:16:54,473 FRANKLIN: The popular image of what a wormhole might look like... 257 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,601 ...is literally just a hole in space. 258 00:16:56,767 --> 00:17:00,897 It sits on an invisible surface, you see stuff sliding down the sides... 259 00:17:01,063 --> 00:17:03,232 ...and disappearing down the drain, as it were. 260 00:17:03,399 --> 00:17:05,985 And right in that first conversation, Kip showed me an image... 261 00:17:06,152 --> 00:17:08,988 ...of that kind of classical fantasy image of these things... 262 00:17:09,155 --> 00:17:13,492 ...and said, "This is all wrong." Ha, ha. "This is not how it is." 263 00:17:13,826 --> 00:17:17,747 NARRATOR: Kip worked out the scientific equations that define the wormhole... 264 00:17:17,914 --> 00:17:20,458 ...and sent them to Paul's animators back in London. 265 00:17:20,625 --> 00:17:24,420 THORNE: And so for the movie, I built a mathematical model wormhole... 266 00:17:24,587 --> 00:17:27,965 ...based on Einstein's relativity equations. 267 00:17:28,132 --> 00:17:32,845 Paul, Kip and myself, we discussed, "Okay, we'll visualize the thing. 268 00:17:33,012 --> 00:17:36,015 We'll simulate the thing exactly as the calculations say." 269 00:17:36,182 --> 00:17:39,060 And Paul Franklin and his team, they were thrilled to get algorithms... 270 00:17:39,227 --> 00:17:42,688 ...that were the absolute latest, most interesting and up-to-the-minute. 271 00:17:42,855 --> 00:17:44,232 MAN: Now we can go to the other one. 272 00:17:44,398 --> 00:17:46,817 The wormhole is a three-dimensional hole in space. 273 00:17:46,984 --> 00:17:49,946 What do you get if you take a circle and sweep it out in three dimensions? 274 00:17:50,112 --> 00:17:51,364 You get a sphere. 275 00:17:51,530 --> 00:17:55,743 So the wormhole almost feels like a crystal ball hanging in space. 276 00:17:58,621 --> 00:18:02,333 THORNE: I don't think anybody had ever really done this kind of visualization before. 277 00:18:02,500 --> 00:18:03,584 This is really unique. 278 00:18:03,751 --> 00:18:08,297 Uh, first time for me, as well as for you and the audience. 279 00:18:08,464 --> 00:18:09,548 Absolutely, yes. 280 00:18:12,009 --> 00:18:14,929 NARRATOR: In Interstellar, crew members take a giant leap of faith... 281 00:18:15,096 --> 00:18:17,390 ...when they plunge into a wormhole. 282 00:18:17,556 --> 00:18:20,101 DOYLE: You can't think about your family. You have to think bigger. 283 00:18:20,476 --> 00:18:24,313 COOPER: I am thinking about my family and millions of other families. 284 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,483 AMELIA: You might have to decide between seeing your children again... 285 00:18:27,650 --> 00:18:29,277 ...and the future of the human race. 286 00:18:29,944 --> 00:18:33,906 NARRATOR: Beyond the wormhole, the crew will face a far greater challenge: 287 00:18:34,532 --> 00:18:38,286 To navigate the perils of a black hole. 288 00:18:39,954 --> 00:18:43,749 For a filmmaker, that threat is full of dramatic possibilities. 289 00:18:45,042 --> 00:18:49,630 NOLAN: When you venture out into a story about a man against the elements... 290 00:18:49,797 --> 00:18:56,387 ...visualizing the threat against our protagonist become very much more exotic. 291 00:18:56,887 --> 00:19:01,976 Deep, deep space gives you a very, very fresh approach. 292 00:19:02,852 --> 00:19:05,688 NARRATOR: Black holes were predicted by Einstein's equations... 293 00:19:05,855 --> 00:19:08,649 ...but physicists questioned whether they could really exist. 294 00:19:08,816 --> 00:19:11,319 THORNE: A black hole is a strange beast. 295 00:19:11,485 --> 00:19:15,031 If this were a black hole, then instead of a rubber surface... 296 00:19:15,197 --> 00:19:18,409 ...it would have a surface that is made of absolutely nothing... 297 00:19:18,576 --> 00:19:21,245 ...except warped space and time. 298 00:19:22,872 --> 00:19:25,541 It's a place where gravity is so strong... 299 00:19:25,708 --> 00:19:29,462 ...that if anything falls into the black hole, it can never get back out. 300 00:19:29,628 --> 00:19:31,964 If you fall in, you can't send signals back out. 301 00:19:32,131 --> 00:19:34,258 Light can't get out from the interior. 302 00:19:36,052 --> 00:19:38,637 CARROLL: So you might ask, how would that ever happen? 303 00:19:38,804 --> 00:19:43,434 In outer space, you can get so much mass together, like in a super-massive star... 304 00:19:43,601 --> 00:19:46,854 ...that the gravity just becomes stronger and stronger and stronger... 305 00:19:47,021 --> 00:19:51,317 ...and eventually the pressure that matter exerts on itself can't keep up. 306 00:19:52,276 --> 00:19:54,904 And everything collapses, there's a big explosion. 307 00:19:55,071 --> 00:19:59,033 Some of the stuff is blown away, but the rest of it collapses into a black hole. 308 00:20:00,743 --> 00:20:04,914 NARRATOR: A black hole that spins on its axis drags the very space around it... 309 00:20:05,081 --> 00:20:09,919 ...into a whirling motion that pulls stars and planets into orbit. 310 00:20:10,086 --> 00:20:14,090 Closer in, gravity increases like a riptide. 311 00:20:14,256 --> 00:20:18,761 At a boundary called the event horizon, gravity becomes so extreme... 312 00:20:18,928 --> 00:20:22,306 ...that nothing can escape being pulled into the heart of the beast... 313 00:20:22,473 --> 00:20:23,891 ...and lost forever. 314 00:20:24,517 --> 00:20:28,354 GHEZ: Black holes are simple, and yet they have a lot of character. 315 00:20:28,521 --> 00:20:30,523 It's almost like they can take on personalities. 316 00:20:30,689 --> 00:20:35,027 Um, they can be picky eaters, um, they can be energetic. 317 00:20:35,194 --> 00:20:36,904 And what you're seeing and describing... 318 00:20:37,071 --> 00:20:39,907 ...is really how the black hole interacts with the environment. 319 00:20:40,866 --> 00:20:43,369 NARRATOR: UCLA astronomer Andrea Ghez... 320 00:20:43,536 --> 00:20:44,745 Looks like this is Sagi's star. 321 00:20:44,912 --> 00:20:46,872 NARRATOR: ...is an expert on black hole detection. 322 00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:49,041 - Must be this one, right? - I think it's that one. 323 00:20:49,208 --> 00:20:53,421 NARRATOR: She played a key role investigating what had long been a scientific hunch. 324 00:20:53,587 --> 00:20:57,007 That a huge black hole lives at the center of the Milky Way. 325 00:20:57,174 --> 00:20:58,342 It's looking good. 326 00:20:58,509 --> 00:21:01,137 NARRATOR: Astronomers knew the heart of our galaxy was buzzing... 327 00:21:01,303 --> 00:21:05,141 ...with gas, dust and millions of stars. 328 00:21:05,307 --> 00:21:08,644 Some powerful force appeared to be driving this hubbub. 329 00:21:08,811 --> 00:21:11,188 Could it be a black hole? 330 00:21:12,106 --> 00:21:15,025 Ground telescopes just couldn't produce sharp images of the region... 331 00:21:16,068 --> 00:21:21,407 ...then a technique called adaptive optics vastly improved the view. 332 00:21:21,574 --> 00:21:25,244 This is what it looks like before you use advanced technology. 333 00:21:25,744 --> 00:21:26,996 It's a blurry mess... 334 00:21:27,163 --> 00:21:30,833 ...and now you can see the individual stars with adaptive optics turned on. 335 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,129 So each point of light here is associated with an individual star. 336 00:21:36,589 --> 00:21:41,510 NARRATOR: Andrea put that technique to work at the Keck Observatory in Hawaii. 337 00:21:42,887 --> 00:21:44,388 GHEZ: This is a road map. 338 00:21:44,555 --> 00:21:48,184 NARRATOR: And she and her team began to track the stars at the center of the Milky Way. 339 00:21:48,350 --> 00:21:50,728 GHEZ: And that's the center of our galaxy. 340 00:21:50,895 --> 00:21:54,064 The very first year that we took the data was in 1995. 341 00:21:55,107 --> 00:21:59,111 Then we go back to the telescope in '96, then we take our second image... 342 00:21:59,278 --> 00:22:01,530 ...and you have two pictures, and you can compare them. 343 00:22:03,073 --> 00:22:07,077 NARRATOR: Andrea wanted to see if the stars were orbiting a single source of gravity... 344 00:22:07,411 --> 00:22:10,206 ...but stars can take years to complete an orbit. 345 00:22:10,831 --> 00:22:13,334 GHEZ: And so it was really important that we kept going... 346 00:22:13,501 --> 00:22:18,255 ...and by 2000 we finally started to see the star's curve. 347 00:22:18,422 --> 00:22:23,052 In other words, the gravitational influence of the black hole, um... 348 00:22:23,219 --> 00:22:27,598 ...had made those stars go from straight lines to starting to bend. 349 00:22:27,765 --> 00:22:29,558 Precise enough to see that curvature. 350 00:22:29,725 --> 00:22:34,313 NARRATOR: Year by year, Andrea and her team built their case. 351 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,567 This animation represents, uh, 20 years of work... 352 00:22:38,734 --> 00:22:45,658 ...and it tells you that there is a black hole, and exactly how massive it is. 353 00:22:45,824 --> 00:22:48,911 NARRATOR: Andrea's painstaking project revealed a monster... 354 00:22:49,078 --> 00:22:52,331 ...with more than 4 million times the mass of our sun... 355 00:22:52,498 --> 00:22:55,793 ...at the center of our Milky Way. 356 00:22:56,418 --> 00:23:00,798 Today, scientists are hunting black holes with new tools. 357 00:23:00,965 --> 00:23:06,220 Caltech astrophysicist Fiona Harrison scans the skies with NuSTAR... 358 00:23:06,387 --> 00:23:09,932 ...a telescope that looks at the universe in high-energy x-rays. 359 00:23:11,141 --> 00:23:13,561 HARRISON: The black hole itself doesn't emit light... 360 00:23:13,727 --> 00:23:16,772 ...but dust and gas falls onto the black holes... 361 00:23:16,939 --> 00:23:22,861 ...and in doing so, it heats up, and it emits x-rays. 362 00:23:23,571 --> 00:23:28,075 NARRATOR: NuSTAR captures black holes in the process of feasting on matter... 363 00:23:28,242 --> 00:23:31,579 ...and the telescope is spotting them all over the place. 364 00:23:31,954 --> 00:23:36,959 HARRISON: It's really only 10, 20 years ago that we thought black holes were rare. 365 00:23:37,126 --> 00:23:40,129 We now know that every galaxy, like our Milky Way... 366 00:23:40,296 --> 00:23:43,090 ...has a massive black hole at its heart. 367 00:23:43,591 --> 00:23:48,762 So rather than just being curiosities, they're actually fundamentally important... 368 00:23:48,929 --> 00:23:51,473 ...to why the universe is the way it is. 369 00:23:52,057 --> 00:23:55,561 NARRATOR: So is the Earth at risk of getting swallowed by a black hole? 370 00:23:56,312 --> 00:23:59,315 HARRISON: Even though we have black holes sprinkled throughout the galaxy... 371 00:23:59,481 --> 00:24:01,108 ...we're in absolutely no danger. 372 00:24:01,275 --> 00:24:05,029 It's a common misconception that black holes might suck the Earth. 373 00:24:05,195 --> 00:24:08,532 Well, there's no sucking going on, it's just normal gravity. 374 00:24:09,992 --> 00:24:11,827 It's just when you get very close to it... 375 00:24:11,994 --> 00:24:15,039 ...that there's a region from which light can't even escape... 376 00:24:15,205 --> 00:24:18,042 ...and Earth is not gonna do that. 377 00:24:18,917 --> 00:24:20,127 NARRATOR: But in Interstellar... 378 00:24:20,294 --> 00:24:23,255 ...crew members have a precariously close encounter with a black hole. 379 00:24:23,714 --> 00:24:25,382 COOPER: Oh, we are not prepared for this. 380 00:24:25,758 --> 00:24:28,385 NARRATOR: What would the beast look like to them? 381 00:24:28,552 --> 00:24:30,554 One of the things that Kip was very insistent on... 382 00:24:30,721 --> 00:24:34,433 ...is that the black hole, it's spherical, but it's absolutely black. 383 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,226 It has no surface detail. 384 00:24:36,393 --> 00:24:39,188 Doesn't give shadows or highlights or anything. 385 00:24:39,355 --> 00:24:42,358 But then early on, we were talking about accretion disks. 386 00:24:42,775 --> 00:24:47,780 And that gave us a way to define the spherical shape of the thing. 387 00:24:47,946 --> 00:24:52,326 NARRATOR: A black hole's accretion disk is made up of gas and dust and magnetic fields... 388 00:24:52,493 --> 00:24:53,911 ...that spin at high speeds... 389 00:24:54,411 --> 00:24:56,997 ...radiating heat and light. 390 00:24:58,374 --> 00:25:02,419 The black hole's gravity would actually bend that light like a camera lens... 391 00:25:02,586 --> 00:25:04,338 ...in ways that Kip would calculate. 392 00:25:04,797 --> 00:25:09,802 THORNE: I worked out the equations for tracing light rays traveling around the black hole... 393 00:25:09,968 --> 00:25:15,432 ...to see what the disk would look like if you were in a spacecraft looking at it up close. 394 00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:18,394 NARRATOR: And Paul's team brought the mathematics to life. 395 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,314 We were really able to use a very, very accurate representation... 396 00:25:22,481 --> 00:25:26,694 ...of the gravitational lens and the effects of gravity and light around the black hole. 397 00:25:26,860 --> 00:25:32,241 Uh, because what the algorithms gave us was extremely spectacular. 398 00:25:33,992 --> 00:25:36,245 NARRATOR: Even Kip was surprised. 399 00:25:36,412 --> 00:25:38,580 You see the disk in front... 400 00:25:38,747 --> 00:25:40,207 ...and then when it goes around... 401 00:25:40,374 --> 00:25:44,420 ...you see the disk wrap up around the top of the black hole... 402 00:25:44,586 --> 00:25:46,547 ...and wrap around the bottom of the black hole. 403 00:25:49,717 --> 00:25:51,969 I had guessed it would look more or less like this... 404 00:25:52,136 --> 00:25:54,763 ...but knowing it intellectually is different than feeling it... 405 00:25:54,930 --> 00:25:57,182 ...than absorbing it, than seeing it. 406 00:25:57,850 --> 00:25:59,643 It just blew me away. 407 00:26:00,394 --> 00:26:01,979 NARRATOR: But this brilliant depiction... 408 00:26:02,146 --> 00:26:05,566 ...still can't tell us what happens in the heart of a black hole... 409 00:26:05,733 --> 00:26:07,484 ...beyond the event horizon. 410 00:26:08,902 --> 00:26:14,783 What would happen to an astronaut daring or crazy enough to dive in feet-first? 411 00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:16,994 THORNE: In the simplest descriptions of this... 412 00:26:17,161 --> 00:26:20,789 ...the descriptions that you will find in most books that you read... 413 00:26:20,956 --> 00:26:22,916 ...you're simply stretched from head to foot... 414 00:26:23,083 --> 00:26:28,881 ...and squeezed from the side by tidal forces, "spaghettified" is what it often says. 415 00:26:29,381 --> 00:26:32,676 You're spaghettified as you fall in and you're destroyed. 416 00:26:33,135 --> 00:26:34,970 That's the standard story. 417 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,770 NARRATOR: The truth is, all the laws of physics that we know... 418 00:26:42,936 --> 00:26:46,190 ...break down in the heart of a black hole. 419 00:26:46,356 --> 00:26:50,652 Physicists are still working on exactly what happens there. 420 00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:53,739 That's the gravity well, though, isn't it? 421 00:26:53,906 --> 00:26:59,119 When we talk to non-physicists, we will often say it's the gravity well. 422 00:26:59,286 --> 00:27:01,497 So you've been lying to us all these years. 423 00:27:01,663 --> 00:27:04,833 You know how these things go, there are lies and there are "lies." 424 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,043 I know, but now... 425 00:27:06,460 --> 00:27:11,757 The movie Interstellar deals with physics that is well-understood, well-established. 426 00:27:11,924 --> 00:27:15,052 It deals with physics where we make educated guesses... 427 00:27:15,219 --> 00:27:17,930 ...and we're almost sure, but not 100 percent sure of our guesses. 428 00:27:19,056 --> 00:27:22,810 And it deals with physics at the frontiers of human understanding... 429 00:27:22,976 --> 00:27:24,812 ...where we have to speculate... 430 00:27:24,978 --> 00:27:26,814 ...and when you get beyond those frontiers... 431 00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:30,067 ...Interstellar works hard to align itself... 432 00:27:30,234 --> 00:27:34,029 ...with the best speculations a scientist could imagine. 433 00:27:34,196 --> 00:27:39,284 We're struggling very hard as filmmakers to try and explain, uh... 434 00:27:39,451 --> 00:27:42,913 ...these scientific concepts, these sort of abstract ideas... 435 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,209 ...in a subjective way and a way that you can actually experience and feel something about. 436 00:27:48,961 --> 00:27:53,841 NARRATOR: Interstellar mines that gray area where new ideas percolate... 437 00:27:54,007 --> 00:27:58,887 ...and taps deep into questions about the nature of the universe. 438 00:28:04,393 --> 00:28:08,355 In Interstellar, telescopes on Earth first detect the presence of a wormhole. 439 00:28:10,065 --> 00:28:14,862 It shows up as a gravitational anomaly that distorts the view of space. 440 00:28:15,445 --> 00:28:18,782 We made the wormhole not have all that strong a gravity. 441 00:28:18,949 --> 00:28:20,701 But why the wormhole? 442 00:28:21,076 --> 00:28:24,329 Because then you have a reason for your trip around it. 443 00:28:24,496 --> 00:28:27,374 I feel uncomfortable with the wormhole having that much gravity. 444 00:28:27,541 --> 00:28:30,294 THORNE: When I first began working with Christopher Nolan... 445 00:28:30,460 --> 00:28:33,255 ...he wanted a wormhole that had rather gentle gravity... 446 00:28:33,422 --> 00:28:35,716 ...so we discussed how big the wormhole should be... 447 00:28:35,883 --> 00:28:39,428 ...and agreed that it should be just barely big enough... 448 00:28:39,595 --> 00:28:41,388 ...that it could be seen from Earth... 449 00:28:41,555 --> 00:28:44,224 ...through the bending of light around the wormhole... 450 00:28:44,391 --> 00:28:46,560 ...by the wormhole's warped space. 451 00:28:46,727 --> 00:28:50,564 NARRATOR: Kip Thorne worked out just the right gravity for Interstellar's wormhole... 452 00:28:50,981 --> 00:28:55,360 ...using equations based on Einstein's theory of general relativity. 453 00:28:55,527 --> 00:29:01,700 As we've learned, that theory states that objects warp space-time, creating gravity. 454 00:29:02,534 --> 00:29:06,496 It also predicts that when objects move, they generate a pulse... 455 00:29:06,663 --> 00:29:10,667 ...that propagates through space-time, a bit like waves through water. 456 00:29:13,629 --> 00:29:18,342 These gravitational waves have never been directly observed. 457 00:29:18,508 --> 00:29:21,261 They would be small and hard to detect... 458 00:29:21,428 --> 00:29:25,807 ...unless they were generated by a massively violent motion. 459 00:29:27,351 --> 00:29:30,395 Like the birth of the universe. 460 00:29:33,565 --> 00:29:36,443 Physicists developed their big bang theory... 461 00:29:36,610 --> 00:29:41,531 ...in part by observing that today the universe is expanding. 462 00:29:42,741 --> 00:29:48,330 Galaxies are moving away from each other like raisins in a rising loaf of bread... 463 00:29:48,997 --> 00:29:54,294 ...which suggests that in the distant past, the universe must have been much smaller. 464 00:29:54,461 --> 00:29:59,091 CARROLL: If you wind the movie backwards, in the past, everything was closer together... 465 00:29:59,257 --> 00:30:04,221 ...and you plug that idea into the equations that Einstein gives us. 466 00:30:04,596 --> 00:30:08,767 And there's a moment, which we now know was about 14 billion years ago... 467 00:30:08,934 --> 00:30:10,978 ...when everything was on top of everything else... 468 00:30:11,144 --> 00:30:15,816 ...when the density of stuff in the universe was apparently infinitely big. 469 00:30:18,610 --> 00:30:22,906 NARRATOR: Then a powerful force triggered an expansion of space itself. 470 00:30:23,073 --> 00:30:28,537 Faster than the speed of light, a theory called cosmic inflation. 471 00:30:28,704 --> 00:30:34,459 And the theory said that this inflation should've taken fluctuations in the shape of space... 472 00:30:34,626 --> 00:30:37,838 ...and amplified them so they got much stronger. 473 00:30:39,047 --> 00:30:41,383 And they become gravitational waves... 474 00:30:41,550 --> 00:30:45,470 ...producing ripples in the fabric of space and time. 475 00:30:46,638 --> 00:30:48,849 NARRATOR: If we could detect those ripples today... 476 00:30:49,016 --> 00:30:52,185 ...it would help us understand how the big bang banged. 477 00:30:52,352 --> 00:30:55,063 BOCK: The trick was always how were we going to measure such a thing. 478 00:30:55,230 --> 00:30:57,107 And that led us to propose and develop... 479 00:30:57,274 --> 00:31:00,152 ...this very specialized experiment, um... 480 00:31:00,318 --> 00:31:04,990 ...which one of my colleagues referred to gleefully as a wild-goose chase. 481 00:31:06,199 --> 00:31:10,746 NARRATOR: Caltech physicist Jamie Bock works in experimental cosmology. 482 00:31:10,912 --> 00:31:14,249 BOCK: Experimental cosmology is building experiments... 483 00:31:14,416 --> 00:31:16,710 ...trying to get back to the dawn of time. 484 00:31:16,877 --> 00:31:17,919 You need a hand with that? 485 00:31:18,086 --> 00:31:19,921 NARRATOR: The focus of his latest experiment... 486 00:31:20,088 --> 00:31:21,840 ...was the oldest light in the universe. 487 00:31:22,174 --> 00:31:26,053 The faint afterglow of the big bang. 488 00:31:26,219 --> 00:31:30,140 Physicists have mapped this cosmic microwave background... 489 00:31:30,307 --> 00:31:32,517 ...across the universe. 490 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,439 If the birth of the universe produced gravitational waves... 491 00:31:37,606 --> 00:31:39,441 ...they would've warped this primordial light... 492 00:31:39,608 --> 00:31:44,196 ...and caused it to be polarized or curled in a specific direction. 493 00:31:44,362 --> 00:31:46,156 BOCK: If one could measure the polarization... 494 00:31:46,323 --> 00:31:48,867 ...and then not only measure it but look at its pattern... 495 00:31:49,034 --> 00:31:51,203 ...there might be kind of a swirly pattern... 496 00:31:51,369 --> 00:31:54,456 ...that would be an indicator of gravitational waves. 497 00:31:55,999 --> 00:32:00,504 NARRATOR: Jamie and his team designed a series of small super-sensitive telescopes... 498 00:32:01,630 --> 00:32:04,716 ...that they installed where the skies are crystal clear. 499 00:32:04,883 --> 00:32:06,885 At the South Pole. 500 00:32:07,511 --> 00:32:10,222 BOCK: The South Pole is the closest we can get to outer space... 501 00:32:10,388 --> 00:32:11,723 ...to make our measurements. 502 00:32:14,184 --> 00:32:17,979 NARRATOR: For eight years, the team's telescopes scanned a patch in the sky... 503 00:32:18,146 --> 00:32:20,607 ...measuring minute differences in the temperature... 504 00:32:20,774 --> 00:32:23,110 ...of the cosmic microwave background... 505 00:32:23,276 --> 00:32:24,945 ...and a pattern emerged. 506 00:32:25,112 --> 00:32:30,450 BOCK: Our results reported that we see this swirly pattern of polarization... 507 00:32:30,617 --> 00:32:34,913 ...that's consistent with, uh, what you expect from gravitational waves. 508 00:32:35,705 --> 00:32:39,417 THORNE: So they didn't really see the gravitational waves from the early universe... 509 00:32:39,584 --> 00:32:43,421 ...but they saw this polarization pattern that was precisely what was predicted... 510 00:32:43,588 --> 00:32:46,091 ...except that it was stronger than expected. 511 00:32:46,716 --> 00:32:49,678 Tells us what went on immediately after the big bang... 512 00:32:49,845 --> 00:32:54,182 ...when the universe was a trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second old. 513 00:32:54,349 --> 00:32:57,561 So it's seeing almost the creation of the universe. 514 00:32:58,895 --> 00:33:02,524 NARRATOR: The finding must be confirmed by other experiments. 515 00:33:02,691 --> 00:33:07,028 If it holds up, this first evidence for the detection of gravitational waves... 516 00:33:07,195 --> 00:33:11,241 ...will deepen our understanding of the birth of the universe. 517 00:33:12,784 --> 00:33:18,540 And that, by extension, may help us answer an enduring question: 518 00:33:18,915 --> 00:33:20,876 Can we time travel? 519 00:33:21,042 --> 00:33:23,336 CARROLL: You know, it's very easy to travel in time. 520 00:33:23,503 --> 00:33:26,548 Yesterday, I've moved forward 24 hours and here I am. 521 00:33:26,715 --> 00:33:30,093 But that's the only way that it's easy. It's easy to go into the future. 522 00:33:30,260 --> 00:33:34,514 In fact, it's not just easy, it's inevitable. We all move into the future over time. 523 00:33:35,265 --> 00:33:38,894 NARRATOR: But traveling to the past is a different story... 524 00:33:39,227 --> 00:33:42,939 ...because space and time have profoundly different properties. 525 00:33:43,481 --> 00:33:46,735 In space, you can go up, down, left, right, forward, backward. 526 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,032 NARRATOR: We move freely through the three dimensions of space. 527 00:33:52,199 --> 00:33:56,953 In time, we experience its one dimension and a lot less freedom. 528 00:33:57,495 --> 00:34:00,207 CARROLL: Because time has a direction and space does not. 529 00:34:00,373 --> 00:34:02,209 In time, there's a huge difference... 530 00:34:02,375 --> 00:34:05,545 ...between one direction, the future, and the other direction, the past. 531 00:34:05,712 --> 00:34:09,758 For example, you remember the past, but you don't remember the future. 532 00:34:09,925 --> 00:34:12,469 You were younger in the past, we were all younger in the past. 533 00:34:12,636 --> 00:34:15,222 We will all be older. It's all universal to us. 534 00:34:17,891 --> 00:34:21,353 This arrow of time is a little bit mysterious. 535 00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:23,521 We understand the basic underpinnings... 536 00:34:23,688 --> 00:34:27,317 ...in a concept called entropy, the disorderliness of the universe. 537 00:34:28,902 --> 00:34:32,489 NARRATOR: Entropy is the measure of the disorder in a system. 538 00:34:32,656 --> 00:34:36,034 The more ordered a system, the lower its entropy. 539 00:34:38,453 --> 00:34:42,207 The more disordered a system, the higher its entropy. 540 00:34:42,540 --> 00:34:46,962 A classic example of entropy increasing is just mixing cream into coffee. 541 00:34:47,128 --> 00:34:50,048 When the cream and the coffee are separate, that's low entropy. 542 00:34:50,215 --> 00:34:52,300 They're organized. There's the cream, the coffee. 543 00:34:52,467 --> 00:34:55,178 You pour them together, you let them mix together. 544 00:34:55,512 --> 00:34:58,348 Entropy just goes up. Things become more and more disorderly. 545 00:35:02,477 --> 00:35:06,147 And this goes all the way back 14 billion years to the big bang. 546 00:35:07,357 --> 00:35:11,528 NARRATOR: Back then, all the matter in the universe would have been on top of itself. 547 00:35:11,695 --> 00:35:14,656 Density would have been infinite. 548 00:35:14,823 --> 00:35:17,951 It was the epitome of low entropy. 549 00:35:19,995 --> 00:35:24,165 But entropy has been on the rise ever since the big bang. 550 00:35:24,541 --> 00:35:27,043 CARROLL: We think, but we haven't absolutely established... 551 00:35:27,210 --> 00:35:30,922 ...that this general tendency to go from order to disorder... 552 00:35:31,089 --> 00:35:35,218 ...is the single reason why the past is different from the future. 553 00:35:35,385 --> 00:35:39,639 We can't discount in principle the possibility of visiting the past... 554 00:35:39,806 --> 00:35:43,893 ...but all of these weird puzzles that sort of rub us the wrong way... 555 00:35:44,060 --> 00:35:47,856 ...about if I go back into the past and I give myself a really good idea... 556 00:35:48,023 --> 00:35:51,484 ...and then I grow up and become rich off that idea, where did the idea come from? 557 00:35:51,651 --> 00:35:54,154 These kinds of puzzles would evaporate... 558 00:35:54,321 --> 00:35:57,907 ...if we just said, "Well, the laws of physics don't allow you to visit the past." 559 00:35:58,074 --> 00:36:00,285 So that's probably true. 560 00:36:01,578 --> 00:36:05,749 NARRATOR: To contemplate the mysteries of space, time and the universe... 561 00:36:05,915 --> 00:36:08,543 ...can make a person feel mighty small. 562 00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:13,340 Maybe it's best to lower our sights, hunker down and focus on planet Earth. 563 00:36:14,382 --> 00:36:18,011 But that's not really an option for humanity in the long run. 564 00:36:21,556 --> 00:36:25,310 Interstellar depicts a future where living conditions on Earth are grim. 565 00:36:25,477 --> 00:36:30,231 Our mission does not work if the people on Earth are dead by the time we pull it off. 566 00:36:30,690 --> 00:36:33,068 NARRATOR: Failing crops. 567 00:36:33,443 --> 00:36:35,445 Clouds of dust. 568 00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:39,491 Roads clogged with refugees. 569 00:36:39,657 --> 00:36:41,201 Sound familiar? 570 00:36:43,828 --> 00:36:47,290 That's because we've lived through this scenario before. 571 00:36:48,124 --> 00:36:51,586 In the 1930s, the Great Plains were hit by extreme drought. 572 00:36:52,379 --> 00:36:55,465 Farmers had plowed up native grasslands. 573 00:36:55,632 --> 00:37:01,012 When crops failed, unprotected topsoil billowed into clouds that darkened the sky for days. 574 00:37:03,515 --> 00:37:07,852 Some 400,000 people lost nearly everything during the dust bowl. 575 00:37:08,186 --> 00:37:12,524 One of America's worst man-made ecological disasters. 576 00:37:15,527 --> 00:37:19,906 It was the model for the calamity depicted in Interstellar. 577 00:37:21,658 --> 00:37:24,619 NOLAN: I really wanted to try and bring the audiences' attention... 578 00:37:24,786 --> 00:37:28,039 ...to the idea that this sort of thing really can happen. 579 00:37:28,206 --> 00:37:32,460 And it struck me that the imagery that you can find... 580 00:37:32,627 --> 00:37:36,005 ...was so much more extraordinary than anything you see in a science fiction film. 581 00:37:36,172 --> 00:37:39,884 And, indeed, in our portrayal of it, we had to frankly water it down. 582 00:37:40,635 --> 00:37:43,847 NARRATOR: But we'd never let a dust bowl happen again, would we? 583 00:37:47,350 --> 00:37:52,439 In recent years, cities in the American Southwest, especially Texas... 584 00:37:52,605 --> 00:37:55,358 ...have been battered by huge dust storms. 585 00:37:55,817 --> 00:38:00,113 They've caused fatal traffic accidents and damaged infrastructure. 586 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,909 The causes are frighteningly familiar to UCLA geographer Greg Okin... 587 00:38:05,076 --> 00:38:08,538 ...an expert on the dynamics of wind and dust. 588 00:38:09,247 --> 00:38:10,832 OKIN: We have wind-erodible soil. 589 00:38:10,999 --> 00:38:13,835 We have agriculture that's disturbed the native vegetation. 590 00:38:14,002 --> 00:38:17,547 We have bare ground because crops fail. 591 00:38:17,714 --> 00:38:19,424 And we have windy conditions. 592 00:38:19,591 --> 00:38:24,596 So all of the same things that happened in the dust bowl are happening now. 593 00:38:26,222 --> 00:38:29,976 NARRATOR: Models of climate change predict higher global temperatures. 594 00:38:30,143 --> 00:38:32,687 That probably means more droughts. 595 00:38:33,396 --> 00:38:36,524 Economic pressures may lead to increased farming of wildlands. 596 00:38:38,526 --> 00:38:42,739 If crops fail due to drought, that could mean more dust. 597 00:38:43,114 --> 00:38:44,908 OKIN: It could happen in China. 598 00:38:45,074 --> 00:38:46,618 It could happen in Africa. 599 00:38:46,784 --> 00:38:51,414 Any of these factors, when they're in place, could cause what we have called the dust bowl. 600 00:38:52,707 --> 00:38:54,375 NARRATOR: And to make matters worse... 601 00:38:55,043 --> 00:38:59,339 ...dust is much dirtier today than it was in the 1930s. 602 00:38:59,506 --> 00:39:04,219 OKIN: The dust that is interacting with clouds of pollution from cities... 603 00:39:04,385 --> 00:39:06,846 ...in urban and industrial activities, um... 604 00:39:07,013 --> 00:39:12,060 ...that actually does appear to also be more noxious than regular dust. 605 00:39:12,936 --> 00:39:17,565 NARRATOR: Winds blow dust across oceans and continents and into our lungs. 606 00:39:17,732 --> 00:39:21,444 Dust, particularly for kids with asthma, is a really big problem. 607 00:39:21,611 --> 00:39:23,530 There's actually quite good evidence... 608 00:39:23,696 --> 00:39:28,785 ...for dust being correlated with pediatric hospital admissions. 609 00:39:28,952 --> 00:39:31,371 That's where the really clear evidence is. 610 00:39:32,664 --> 00:39:35,917 NARRATOR: No one predicted the dust bowl of the 1930s. 611 00:39:36,084 --> 00:39:38,169 Today, we should know better. 612 00:39:38,336 --> 00:39:41,965 OKIN: We learned the important lesson that poorly-planned human activity... 613 00:39:42,131 --> 00:39:47,303 ...plus unexpected climate variability can lead to disaster. 614 00:39:47,470 --> 00:39:49,556 There's a lot to worry about. 615 00:39:51,391 --> 00:39:54,644 NARRATOR: Sadly, we don't have a great track record taking care of Mother Earth. 616 00:39:56,229 --> 00:40:01,359 But the planet is also threatened by forces far beyond our control. 617 00:40:05,572 --> 00:40:08,116 February 15th, 2013... 618 00:40:10,326 --> 00:40:14,539 ...a meteor shining brighter than the sun streaks across Siberia. 619 00:40:15,206 --> 00:40:18,167 It's a rock 65 feet in diameter... 620 00:40:18,334 --> 00:40:22,213 ...and when it explodes in midair, it releases more than 20 times the energy... 621 00:40:22,380 --> 00:40:25,091 ...of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. 622 00:40:25,717 --> 00:40:27,385 [SCREAMING] 623 00:40:31,347 --> 00:40:35,643 No one was killed, but more than a thousand people were injured. 624 00:40:37,895 --> 00:40:40,565 Asteroids have struck Earth before. 625 00:40:40,732 --> 00:40:42,567 Some 65 million years ago... 626 00:40:42,942 --> 00:40:47,739 ...a monster 6 miles wide may have wiped out half the species on Earth. 627 00:40:47,905 --> 00:40:50,074 Remember the dinosaurs? 628 00:40:50,241 --> 00:40:53,453 A similar impact, or worse, could happen any time... 629 00:40:53,953 --> 00:40:57,332 ...and turn our blue marble into a lifeless rock. 630 00:40:59,542 --> 00:41:00,835 And the bottom line? 631 00:41:01,002 --> 00:41:03,963 Earth cannot sustain us forever. 632 00:41:04,756 --> 00:41:08,968 In a few billion years, our sun will expand as it begins to die... 633 00:41:10,845 --> 00:41:13,640 ...and our planet will be toast. 634 00:41:17,268 --> 00:41:18,478 But there's good news. 635 00:41:18,645 --> 00:41:19,979 Unlike the dinosaurs-- 636 00:41:20,146 --> 00:41:22,398 MAN: Flight crew, close and lock your visors. Time to fly. 637 00:41:22,565 --> 00:41:24,233 NARRATOR: --we can leave Earth. 638 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,944 MAN: T-minus-10, nine... 639 00:41:27,111 --> 00:41:28,821 Ignition sequence start. 640 00:41:28,988 --> 00:41:33,951 Six, five, four, three, two, one. 641 00:41:34,827 --> 00:41:36,287 Zero. 642 00:41:40,333 --> 00:41:44,212 Zero and liftoff of space shuttle Atlantis. 643 00:41:44,379 --> 00:41:47,715 NARRATOR: Today, nearly 600 people have traveled to space. 644 00:41:49,550 --> 00:41:54,347 During the shuttle era, Marsha Ivins made the trip five times. 645 00:41:54,514 --> 00:42:00,311 In order to record all of this, um, we have created this, uh, wiring nightmare here. 646 00:42:00,478 --> 00:42:05,108 NARRATOR: At Kennedy Space Center Visitor Complex, she checks in on an old friend. 647 00:42:06,901 --> 00:42:11,823 IVINS: I look at Atlantis hanging here, it's a surreal kind of experience to think... 648 00:42:12,532 --> 00:42:14,492 ...I flew that into space. 649 00:42:14,659 --> 00:42:17,120 It's still something that I have a hard time believing. 650 00:42:17,286 --> 00:42:18,621 - Hi. - My name is Tanya. 651 00:42:18,788 --> 00:42:19,997 PHOTOGRAPHER: One, two, three. 652 00:42:20,164 --> 00:42:24,001 And it makes me feel good that people still have a wonder... 653 00:42:24,168 --> 00:42:27,797 ...and an amazement and a pure joy... 654 00:42:27,964 --> 00:42:31,968 ...for the fact that we did fly this vehicle into space. 655 00:42:32,510 --> 00:42:37,348 NARRATOR: For Marsha, each mission was as breathtaking as her first. 656 00:42:37,515 --> 00:42:39,600 IVINS: I looked up overhead... 657 00:42:39,767 --> 00:42:45,982 ...and here was this black sky and this blue Earth. 658 00:42:46,149 --> 00:42:50,653 All hits you at that point, "I am not on the planet anymore." 659 00:42:51,028 --> 00:42:54,907 And every astronaut who has flown has come back and said the same thing. 660 00:42:55,074 --> 00:42:56,826 As you circle the Earth... 661 00:42:56,993 --> 00:43:02,707 ...you do not see natural borders and boundaries that separate the countries. 662 00:43:02,874 --> 00:43:08,087 And all of the wars and the angst and the strife that tear this planet apart... 663 00:43:08,254 --> 00:43:11,132 ...seem so insignificant from that view. 664 00:43:12,425 --> 00:43:13,634 NOLAN: To me... 665 00:43:14,177 --> 00:43:19,849 ...space travel, space exploration has always represented the ultimate frontier. 666 00:43:20,016 --> 00:43:23,895 It's of the absolute extremities of what human experience is... 667 00:43:24,061 --> 00:43:28,232 ...and it's all about trying to, in some way, define our place in the universe. 668 00:43:28,399 --> 00:43:32,069 MAN: Forty seconds away from the Apollo 11 liftoff. 669 00:43:32,236 --> 00:43:33,905 JONATHAN: I remember growing up as a kid... 670 00:43:34,071 --> 00:43:37,950 ...and we were both fascinated by this impulse to flight. 671 00:43:38,117 --> 00:43:44,290 This impulse to build unimaginable machines and use them to blast off into space. 672 00:43:45,291 --> 00:43:51,088 MAN: Having fired the imagination of a generation, pulls into port for the last time. 673 00:43:51,255 --> 00:43:54,008 NARRATOR: The space shuttles were retired in 2011... 674 00:43:54,175 --> 00:43:57,512 ...after traveling more than a half billion miles. 675 00:43:59,931 --> 00:44:03,142 Space exploration demands enormous resources. 676 00:44:03,309 --> 00:44:06,604 The kind that government agencies like NASA can marshal. 677 00:44:07,855 --> 00:44:10,650 Recently, some new players entered the fray. 678 00:44:11,692 --> 00:44:14,862 MUSK: I do think we're at the dawn of a new space era... 679 00:44:15,029 --> 00:44:17,615 ...and it's one where commercial companies play a stronger role. 680 00:44:17,782 --> 00:44:19,325 NASA's not out of the picture. 681 00:44:19,492 --> 00:44:25,206 They're very much in the picture, but it's not all a NASA-designed system. 682 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:31,087 NARRATOR: In 2002, Elon Musk started his own rocket company. 683 00:44:31,254 --> 00:44:34,298 A decade later, under contract to NASA... 684 00:44:34,465 --> 00:44:38,511 ...SpaceX became the first private company in history to carry supplies... 685 00:44:38,678 --> 00:44:41,138 ...to and from the International Space Station. 686 00:44:44,976 --> 00:44:48,688 Now SpaceX is tackling an even greater challenge. 687 00:44:48,855 --> 00:44:53,401 MUSK: I started SpaceX with the idea of trying to revolutionize space transport. 688 00:44:53,568 --> 00:44:57,989 And critical to that is full and rapid reusability of the rocket. 689 00:44:59,323 --> 00:45:02,702 The big issue with rocketry today is you get one use out of the rocket... 690 00:45:02,869 --> 00:45:07,498 ...and then it smashes down into the ocean or into the plains of Siberia, um... 691 00:45:07,665 --> 00:45:09,375 ...and you can't use it again. 692 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,796 If you can, in fact, land the rocket safely... 693 00:45:13,963 --> 00:45:16,591 ...and then reuse it with a minimal amount of effort... 694 00:45:16,757 --> 00:45:22,305 ...then you can dramatically reduce the cost of space transport. 695 00:45:22,471 --> 00:45:27,685 NARRATOR: SpaceX is currently developing a fully and rapidly reusable launch system. 696 00:45:27,852 --> 00:45:30,646 And that will take Elon closer to a more ambitious goal: 697 00:45:31,606 --> 00:45:36,402 To help send crews to establish a colony on Mars. 698 00:45:37,111 --> 00:45:39,822 Not a mission for the fainthearted. 699 00:45:40,489 --> 00:45:42,074 MUSK: Anyone who wants to go to Mars... 700 00:45:42,241 --> 00:45:47,872 ...their desire for adventure would have to overcome their desire for comfort and safety. 701 00:45:48,873 --> 00:45:53,336 NARRATOR: The colony on Mars could be the next giant leap for humankind. 702 00:45:53,502 --> 00:45:56,631 NOLAN: It's such a fundamental idea when you think about it. 703 00:45:56,797 --> 00:46:00,468 It's just a decision that has to be made in terms of how you view the-- 704 00:46:00,635 --> 00:46:02,887 The human race's place in the universe. 705 00:46:03,054 --> 00:46:09,101 We either stay here on Earth or we leave and we journey through the galaxy. 706 00:46:12,396 --> 00:46:15,191 NARRATOR: To create the look of the space technology in Interstellar... 707 00:46:15,358 --> 00:46:18,778 ...Christopher Nolan took a clear design approach. 708 00:46:18,945 --> 00:46:22,865 NOLAN: We didn't wanna have anything that felt purely decorative. 709 00:46:23,032 --> 00:46:26,786 We wanted to approach it from a more functional point of view... 710 00:46:26,953 --> 00:46:28,913 ...just be as convincing as possible... 711 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,707 ...looking at the NASA technology that exists today... 712 00:46:31,874 --> 00:46:34,919 ...the International Space Station, these kind of things as our influences. 713 00:46:36,212 --> 00:46:40,257 NARRATOR: There's no telling how space technology will evolve in the years to come. 714 00:46:41,217 --> 00:46:46,430 We may be decades away or longer from establishing a colony on Mars... 715 00:46:46,931 --> 00:46:50,184 ...or a permanent habitat in orbit around the Earth. 716 00:46:50,351 --> 00:46:53,562 But people around the world are dreaming of that next step. 717 00:46:56,232 --> 00:46:58,901 At a recent space conference... 718 00:46:59,068 --> 00:47:01,070 ...NASA and the National Space Society... 719 00:47:01,404 --> 00:47:05,366 ...handed out awards to dozens of forward-looking designs. 720 00:47:07,785 --> 00:47:10,997 A self-sustaining settlement for 20,000 people. 721 00:47:12,540 --> 00:47:16,460 A moon base that mines minerals from lunar soil. 722 00:47:17,003 --> 00:47:20,381 A fleet of robots that clean up space junk. 723 00:47:20,548 --> 00:47:23,009 But, of course, this is hard because we're burning fuel... 724 00:47:23,175 --> 00:47:26,554 NARRATOR: There's not a single PhD among the prize-winning designers. 725 00:47:26,721 --> 00:47:28,889 [SINGING IN SPANISH] 726 00:47:30,141 --> 00:47:33,477 NARRATOR: These are middle and high school students from around the world. 727 00:47:33,644 --> 00:47:39,275 What first inspired me was the sky, the stars, the moon, the planets. 728 00:47:39,442 --> 00:47:44,530 Thinking about going to space is really exhilarating. 729 00:47:44,697 --> 00:47:48,826 I've always wanted to know, like, what's next? And for me, space is next. 730 00:47:48,993 --> 00:47:51,245 What we can do is beyond our imagination. 731 00:47:51,620 --> 00:47:57,710 For the survival of the human race, really, the only option is to go into space. 732 00:47:57,877 --> 00:48:01,589 It should be something that-- A first step we should take as a world. 733 00:48:01,756 --> 00:48:05,134 NARRATOR: One of these kids may stand on Mars someday... 734 00:48:05,301 --> 00:48:07,511 ...or make a breakthrough in propulsion systems... 735 00:48:08,012 --> 00:48:10,556 ...or start a revolution in astrophysics. 736 00:48:11,932 --> 00:48:16,020 To inspire their kind of enthusiasm is the hope of the Interstellar team. 737 00:48:16,562 --> 00:48:19,023 THOMAS: I would love for kids to watch Interstellar... 738 00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:23,319 ...and get excited about possibilities of space travel and exploration. 739 00:48:23,652 --> 00:48:28,949 I would hope that this film introduces many people to science... 740 00:48:29,116 --> 00:48:32,870 ...who might not have gotten curious about this kind of science in any other way. 741 00:48:33,037 --> 00:48:36,707 I think it would be really thrilling if people got some sense from this film... 742 00:48:36,874 --> 00:48:39,502 ...that, uh, these ideas are worth thinking about. 743 00:48:42,213 --> 00:48:44,965 NARRATOR: The interplay between science and science fiction... 744 00:48:45,132 --> 00:48:47,760 ...springs from a deep-seated creative drive. 745 00:48:51,263 --> 00:48:52,598 To make sense of the unknown. 746 00:49:01,107 --> 00:49:02,691 To engineer new worlds. 747 00:49:07,780 --> 00:49:09,532 To dream up a better future. 748 00:49:10,783 --> 00:49:14,203 We'll find answers where we always have: 749 00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:17,456 Just beyond the next horizon. 71446

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