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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,866 --> 00:00:03,000 ANNOUNCER: Major support for "The Vietnam War" 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,500 was provided by members of The Better Angels Society, 3 00:00:06,500 --> 00:00:10,465 including Jonathan and Jeannie Lavine, 4 00:00:10,465 --> 00:00:13,365 Diane and Hal Brierley, 5 00:00:13,365 --> 00:00:15,766 Amy and David Abrams, 6 00:00:15,766 --> 00:00:18,265 John and Catherine Debs, 7 00:00:18,265 --> 00:00:21,166 the Fullerton Family Charitable Fund, 8 00:00:21,166 --> 00:00:23,233 the Montrone Ffamily, 9 00:00:23,233 --> 00:00:25,565 Lynda and Stewart Resnick, 10 00:00:25,565 --> 00:00:28,332 the Perry and Donna Golkin Family Foundation, 11 00:00:28,332 --> 00:00:29,332 the Lynch Foundation, 12 00:00:29,332 --> 00:00:32,200 the Roger and Rosemary Enrico Foundation, 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,633 and by these additional funders. 14 00:00:35,633 --> 00:00:37,533 Major funding was also provided 15 00:00:37,533 --> 00:00:39,265 by David H. 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00:02:12,241 JOHN MUSGRAVE: I was assigned a listening post at Con Thien in the fall. 37 00:02:12,243 --> 00:02:16,245 That was like getting a death sentence in a trial. 38 00:02:16,247 --> 00:02:18,414 Because that's just three Marines out there with a radio. 39 00:02:20,084 --> 00:02:21,750 And that's the scariest thing I did. 40 00:02:21,752 --> 00:02:24,620 You're listening for the enemy. 41 00:02:24,622 --> 00:02:27,756 They call you on the radio every hour, 42 00:02:27,758 --> 00:02:29,191 "Delta, Lima, Papa, Three, Bravo, 43 00:02:29,193 --> 00:02:32,628 Delta, Lima, Papa, Three, Bravo, this is Delta Three. 44 00:02:32,630 --> 00:02:35,764 If your sit rep is alpha sierra, key your handset twice. 45 00:02:35,766 --> 00:02:37,165 (TWO BLIPS OF STATIC) 46 00:02:37,167 --> 00:02:38,866 "If your situation report is all secure, 47 00:02:38,868 --> 00:02:40,535 break squelch twice on the handset." 48 00:02:40,537 --> 00:02:42,604 (TWO LOWER-TONED BLIPS OF STATIC) 49 00:02:42,606 --> 00:02:44,705 And if it's not, they keep thinking you're asleep 50 00:02:44,707 --> 00:02:47,342 so they keep asking you, "If your sit rep is alpha sierra," 51 00:02:47,344 --> 00:02:48,643 and then it finally dawns on them, 52 00:02:48,645 --> 00:02:51,379 maybe there's somebody too close for you to say anything. 53 00:02:51,381 --> 00:02:54,349 So then they say, "If your sit rep is negative alpha sierra, 54 00:02:54,351 --> 00:02:55,850 key your handset once," 55 00:02:55,852 --> 00:02:57,818 and you damn near squeeze the handle off the, you know, 56 00:02:57,820 --> 00:03:01,088 and two on the radio because they're so close 57 00:03:01,090 --> 00:03:02,857 that you can hear them whispering to one another. 58 00:03:05,428 --> 00:03:06,894 And that's scary stuff. 59 00:03:06,896 --> 00:03:08,263 That's real scary stuff. 60 00:03:08,265 --> 00:03:11,932 And I'm scared of the dark, still. 61 00:03:11,934 --> 00:03:14,869 I still got a night light. 62 00:03:14,871 --> 00:03:18,238 When my kids were growing up, 63 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,976 that's the first time they really found out 64 00:03:21,978 --> 00:03:24,111 that Daddy'd been in a war when they said, 65 00:03:24,113 --> 00:03:26,681 "Well, why do we need to outgrow our night lights? 66 00:03:26,683 --> 00:03:27,915 Daddy's still got one." 67 00:03:32,922 --> 00:03:35,089 ("SO WHAT" BY MILES DAVIS PLAYING) 68 00:03:35,091 --> 00:03:39,159 JOHN KENNEDY: Let the word go forth from this time and place, 69 00:03:39,161 --> 00:03:42,196 to friend and foe alike, 70 00:03:42,198 --> 00:03:46,332 that the torch has been passed to a new generation 71 00:03:46,334 --> 00:03:53,073 of Americans born in this century, tempered by war, 72 00:03:53,075 --> 00:03:56,776 disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, 73 00:03:56,778 --> 00:04:00,179 - proud of our... - JACK TODD: I still believed, very much, 74 00:04:00,181 --> 00:04:04,851 in this concept of an heroic America, 75 00:04:04,853 --> 00:04:07,621 America being a really special country, 76 00:04:07,623 --> 00:04:10,890 the best country in the world, the best democracy, 77 00:04:10,892 --> 00:04:14,860 all the things that we believe about it, which... 78 00:04:14,862 --> 00:04:16,829 and I didn't really see anything wrong with that. 79 00:04:19,734 --> 00:04:24,370 I was sure that we were right to be in Vietnam. 80 00:04:24,372 --> 00:04:26,506 You know, because it started under Kennedy 81 00:04:26,508 --> 00:04:29,175 and, to me, JFK was God. 82 00:04:29,177 --> 00:04:32,411 Anything that he thought was right, I thought was right. 83 00:04:34,915 --> 00:04:39,084 NARRATOR: At 43, John Fitzgerald Kennedy was the youngest man 84 00:04:39,086 --> 00:04:42,721 ever elected president of the United States. 85 00:04:42,723 --> 00:04:45,158 He had promised bold new leadership, 86 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:51,396 and to his supporters his inauguration seemed to signal a new day. 87 00:04:51,398 --> 00:04:54,332 To those new states whom we welcome 88 00:04:54,334 --> 00:04:57,302 to the ranks of the free, 89 00:04:57,304 --> 00:05:03,275 we pledge our word that one form of colonial control 90 00:05:03,277 --> 00:05:05,877 shall not have passed away 91 00:05:05,879 --> 00:05:11,115 merely to be replaced by a far more iron tyranny. 92 00:05:11,117 --> 00:05:16,253 We shall not always expect to find them supporting our view. 93 00:05:16,255 --> 00:05:20,824 But we shall always hope to find them strongly supporting 94 00:05:20,826 --> 00:05:26,330 their own freedom and to remember that, in the past, 95 00:05:26,332 --> 00:05:29,833 those who foolishly sought power 96 00:05:29,835 --> 00:05:33,937 by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside. 97 00:05:37,943 --> 00:05:40,143 (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) 98 00:05:42,382 --> 00:05:44,681 NARRATOR: The new president gathered around him 99 00:05:44,683 --> 00:05:48,519 an extraordinary set of advisors who shared his determination 100 00:05:48,521 --> 00:05:53,624 to confront communism, including Secretary of State Dean Rusk, 101 00:05:53,626 --> 00:05:57,427 National Security Advisor McGeorge Bundy, 102 00:05:57,429 --> 00:06:00,196 his deputy Walt Rostow, 103 00:06:00,198 --> 00:06:04,568 special military advisor General Maxwell Taylor, 104 00:06:04,570 --> 00:06:08,171 and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, 105 00:06:08,173 --> 00:06:09,973 who had given up his post 106 00:06:09,975 --> 00:06:14,011 as president of the Ford Motor Company to serve his country. 107 00:06:14,013 --> 00:06:20,083 He was a pioneer in the field of systems analysis. 108 00:06:20,085 --> 00:06:23,019 Like the president who picked them, 109 00:06:23,021 --> 00:06:27,189 all of Kennedy's men had served during World War II. 110 00:06:27,191 --> 00:06:29,559 Each had absorbed what they all believed 111 00:06:29,561 --> 00:06:31,594 was its central lesson: 112 00:06:31,596 --> 00:06:35,665 ambitious dictatorships needed to be halted in their tracks 113 00:06:35,667 --> 00:06:38,901 before they constituted a serious danger 114 00:06:38,903 --> 00:06:41,037 to the peace of the world. 115 00:06:41,039 --> 00:06:44,339 Meanwhile, in South Vietnam, 116 00:06:44,341 --> 00:06:46,508 the National Liberation Front... 117 00:06:46,510 --> 00:06:49,378 labeled by its enemies the Viet Cong... 118 00:06:49,380 --> 00:06:52,848 was determined to overthrow the anticommunist 119 00:06:52,850 --> 00:06:58,220 and increasingly autocratic government of Ngo Dinh Diem. 120 00:06:58,222 --> 00:07:02,357 In North Vietnam, unbeknownst to Washington, 121 00:07:02,359 --> 00:07:06,361 Ho Chi Minh, the father of Vietnamese independence, 122 00:07:06,363 --> 00:07:09,664 was now sharing power with a more aggressive leader, 123 00:07:09,666 --> 00:07:12,601 Le Duan, who was even more impatient 124 00:07:12,603 --> 00:07:14,869 to reunify his country. 125 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:17,973 BAO NINH: 126 00:07:35,582 --> 00:07:39,084 LESLIE GELB: None of us knew anything about Vietnam. 127 00:07:39,086 --> 00:07:43,287 Vietnam in those days was a piece on a chessboard, 128 00:07:43,289 --> 00:07:45,523 a strategic chessboard, 129 00:07:45,525 --> 00:07:49,460 not a place with a culture and a history 130 00:07:49,462 --> 00:07:55,033 that we would have an impossible time changing, 131 00:07:55,035 --> 00:07:58,002 even with the mighty force of the United States. 132 00:07:58,004 --> 00:08:02,640 NARRATOR: Over the next three years, the United States would struggle 133 00:08:02,642 --> 00:08:07,144 to understand the complicated country it had come to save, 134 00:08:07,146 --> 00:08:10,280 fail to appreciate the enemy's resolve, 135 00:08:10,282 --> 00:08:13,984 and misread how the South Vietnamese people really felt 136 00:08:13,986 --> 00:08:15,819 about their government. 137 00:08:17,857 --> 00:08:20,190 The new president would find himself caught 138 00:08:20,192 --> 00:08:24,862 between the momentum of war and the desire for peace, 139 00:08:24,864 --> 00:08:27,965 between humility and hubris, 140 00:08:27,967 --> 00:08:34,238 between idealism and expediency, between the truth and a lie. 141 00:08:46,050 --> 00:08:51,020 ("MY COUNTRY 'TIS OF THEE" PLAYING) 142 00:08:54,673 --> 00:08:57,974 KENNEDY: And so, my fellow Americans, 143 00:08:57,976 --> 00:09:03,079 ask not what your country can do for you, 144 00:09:03,081 --> 00:09:05,214 ask what you can do for your country. 145 00:09:12,257 --> 00:09:16,192 MUSGRAVE: I grew up in Missouri, near Kansas City, 146 00:09:16,194 --> 00:09:19,295 a little community called Fairmount. 147 00:09:19,297 --> 00:09:20,897 I was born in 1948. 148 00:09:20,899 --> 00:09:23,532 And there were lots of kids being born in those days 149 00:09:23,534 --> 00:09:25,101 from the guys who were lucky enough to come home 150 00:09:25,103 --> 00:09:25,968 from World War II. 151 00:09:27,405 --> 00:09:30,839 My dad was a pilot in the Army Air Corps. 152 00:09:30,841 --> 00:09:33,742 And all of dad's friends 153 00:09:33,744 --> 00:09:36,879 were World War II vets or Korean vets. 154 00:09:36,881 --> 00:09:39,581 And all of my male teachers were veterans. 155 00:09:39,583 --> 00:09:41,784 And even my pastor had been a chaplain. 156 00:09:43,521 --> 00:09:48,056 Well, they were my heroes, and I wanted to be like them. 157 00:09:55,265 --> 00:09:58,266 NARRATOR: For all of John Kennedy's soaring rhetoric, 158 00:09:58,268 --> 00:10:00,936 for all the talent he gathered around him, 159 00:10:00,938 --> 00:10:04,272 the first months of his presidency did not go well. 160 00:10:04,274 --> 00:10:08,744 He approved a CIA-sponsored invasion of Cuba 161 00:10:08,746 --> 00:10:13,213 at the Bay of Pigs that ended in disaster. 162 00:10:13,215 --> 00:10:15,149 He felt he'd been bullied 163 00:10:15,151 --> 00:10:17,585 by Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev 164 00:10:17,587 --> 00:10:20,020 at a summit meeting in Vienna. 165 00:10:20,022 --> 00:10:22,323 He was unable to keep the Soviets 166 00:10:22,325 --> 00:10:24,759 from building the Berlin Wall. 167 00:10:24,761 --> 00:10:28,996 And in Southeast Asia, he refused to intervene 168 00:10:28,998 --> 00:10:32,299 against a communist insurrection in Laos. 169 00:10:32,301 --> 00:10:36,938 Critics accused him of being immature, indecisive, 170 00:10:36,940 --> 00:10:40,608 inadequate to the task of combating what seemed to be 171 00:10:40,610 --> 00:10:43,177 a mounting communist threat. 172 00:10:43,179 --> 00:10:46,714 "There are just so many concessions that we can make 173 00:10:46,716 --> 00:10:49,148 in one year and survive politically," 174 00:10:49,150 --> 00:10:53,887 he confided to an aide in the spring of 1961. 175 00:10:53,889 --> 00:10:59,258 In South Vietnam, Kennedy felt he had to act. 176 00:10:59,260 --> 00:11:01,962 After the president received reports 177 00:11:01,964 --> 00:11:04,531 that the Viet Cong might be in control 178 00:11:04,533 --> 00:11:08,568 of more than half the densely populated Mekong Delta, 179 00:11:08,570 --> 00:11:12,639 he dispatched General Maxwell Taylor and Walt Rostow 180 00:11:12,641 --> 00:11:14,841 to Vietnam. 181 00:11:14,843 --> 00:11:18,612 They urged him to commit American ground troops. 182 00:11:18,614 --> 00:11:20,346 Kennedy refused. 183 00:11:20,348 --> 00:11:24,117 It would be like taking a first drink, he said... 184 00:11:24,119 --> 00:11:27,253 the effect would soon wear off and there would be demands 185 00:11:27,255 --> 00:11:30,723 for another and another and another. 186 00:11:30,725 --> 00:11:34,193 Instead, in the midst of a cold war, 187 00:11:34,195 --> 00:11:37,497 with its constant risk of nuclear confrontation, 188 00:11:37,499 --> 00:11:40,833 the president supported a new "flexible" way 189 00:11:40,835 --> 00:11:46,406 to confront and contain communism: limited war. 190 00:11:46,408 --> 00:11:51,177 This is another type of warfare, new in its intensity, 191 00:11:51,179 --> 00:11:53,879 ancient in its origin... 192 00:11:53,881 --> 00:11:58,816 war by guerrillas, subversives, insurgents, assassins; 193 00:11:58,818 --> 00:12:03,255 war by ambush instead of by combat; 194 00:12:03,257 --> 00:12:05,590 by infiltration instead of aggression. 195 00:12:07,494 --> 00:12:10,028 NARRATOR: To fight his "limited wars," 196 00:12:10,030 --> 00:12:12,997 Kennedy hoped to use the elite Green Berets, 197 00:12:12,999 --> 00:12:16,535 special forces trained in guerrilla warfare, 198 00:12:16,537 --> 00:12:19,204 counterinsurgency. 199 00:12:19,206 --> 00:12:24,076 They were meant to be dispatched to hotspots around the world. 200 00:12:24,578 --> 00:12:26,811 ROBERT RHEAULT: Khrushchev said, "We're not going to destroy you 201 00:12:26,813 --> 00:12:28,379 with nuclear weapons, 202 00:12:28,381 --> 00:12:31,149 we're going to destroy you with wars of national liberation." 203 00:12:31,551 --> 00:12:33,551 Everybody talked about the fact 204 00:12:33,553 --> 00:12:38,355 that communism was spreading and it had to be stopped. 205 00:12:38,357 --> 00:12:41,125 You went to Command and General Staff College 206 00:12:41,127 --> 00:12:44,661 and you were playing on maps with nuclear weapons 207 00:12:44,663 --> 00:12:46,430 and so forth. 208 00:12:46,432 --> 00:12:51,335 And I escaped from that by getting into Special Forces. 209 00:12:51,337 --> 00:12:54,105 So that instead of planning what we were going to do 210 00:12:54,107 --> 00:12:58,842 if World War III broke out, we were actually doing stuff. 211 00:13:00,580 --> 00:13:03,746 And Vietnam was a place where we were going to draw the line. 212 00:13:05,584 --> 00:13:07,383 NARRATOR: Kennedy sent the Green Berets 213 00:13:07,385 --> 00:13:09,752 to the Central Highlands of Vietnam 214 00:13:09,754 --> 00:13:13,389 to organize mountain tribes to fight the Viet Cong 215 00:13:13,391 --> 00:13:18,128 and to undertake covert missions to sabotage their supply bases 216 00:13:18,130 --> 00:13:21,297 in Laos and Cambodia. 217 00:13:21,299 --> 00:13:25,801 But Kennedy understood that counterinsurgency alone 218 00:13:25,803 --> 00:13:27,003 would never be enough, 219 00:13:27,005 --> 00:13:30,607 so he doubled funding for South Vietnam's army, 220 00:13:30,609 --> 00:13:35,710 dispatched helicopters and APCs, armored personnel carriers. 221 00:13:38,882 --> 00:13:42,751 Kennedy also authorized the use of napalm 222 00:13:42,753 --> 00:13:47,289 and the spraying of defoliants to deny cover to the Viet Cong 223 00:13:47,291 --> 00:13:51,160 and destroy the crops that fed them. 224 00:13:51,162 --> 00:13:54,363 A whole array of chemicals was used, 225 00:13:54,365 --> 00:13:57,832 including one named for the color of the stripes 226 00:13:57,834 --> 00:14:03,872 on the 55-gallon drums in which it came... "Agent Orange." 227 00:14:03,874 --> 00:14:07,509 And the president quietly continued to increase 228 00:14:07,511 --> 00:14:10,478 the number of American military advisors. 229 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:19,086 Within two years, the number he had inherited would grow to 11,300, 230 00:14:19,088 --> 00:14:21,689 empowered not only to teach 231 00:14:21,691 --> 00:14:24,692 the Army of the Republic of Vietnam... the ARVN... 232 00:14:24,694 --> 00:14:26,827 to fight a conventional war, 233 00:14:26,829 --> 00:14:29,063 but to accompany them into battle, 234 00:14:29,065 --> 00:14:33,701 a violation of the agreement that had divided Vietnam back in 1954. 235 00:14:33,703 --> 00:14:37,438 (GUNFIRE) 236 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,509 The administration did its best to hide from the American people 237 00:14:41,511 --> 00:14:43,911 the scale of the buildup that was taking place 238 00:14:43,913 --> 00:14:45,813 on the other side of the world, 239 00:14:45,815 --> 00:14:48,716 fearful that the public would not support 240 00:14:48,718 --> 00:14:55,655 the more active role advisors had begun to play in combat. 241 00:14:55,657 --> 00:14:58,325 Mr. President, a Republican National Committee publication 242 00:14:58,327 --> 00:15:01,762 has said that you are... have been less than candid 243 00:15:01,764 --> 00:15:05,599 with the American people as to how deeply we are involved 244 00:15:05,601 --> 00:15:07,567 in Vietnam. 245 00:15:07,569 --> 00:15:10,137 Could you throw any more light on that? 246 00:15:10,139 --> 00:15:12,206 We have increased our assistance to the government, 247 00:15:12,208 --> 00:15:14,108 its logistics. 248 00:15:14,110 --> 00:15:16,076 We have not sent combat troops there. 249 00:15:16,078 --> 00:15:19,312 Though the training missions that we have there 250 00:15:19,314 --> 00:15:22,215 have been instructed if they are fired upon to... 251 00:15:22,217 --> 00:15:25,184 they are, would of course, fire back, to protect themselves. 252 00:15:25,186 --> 00:15:27,019 But we have not sent combat troops 253 00:15:27,021 --> 00:15:29,356 in the generally understood sense of the word. 254 00:15:29,358 --> 00:15:35,094 So that I... I feel that we are being as frank as the... 255 00:15:35,096 --> 00:15:36,463 as we can be. 256 00:15:36,465 --> 00:15:38,064 I think we... what I have said to you 257 00:15:38,066 --> 00:15:40,967 is a description of our activity there. 258 00:15:45,741 --> 00:15:49,175 NEIL SHEEHAN: I was a child of the Cold War. 259 00:15:49,177 --> 00:15:54,680 When I got off the plane in Saigon on a humid evening in April 1962, 260 00:15:54,682 --> 00:15:58,617 I really believed in all the ideology of the Cold War. 261 00:15:58,619 --> 00:15:59,752 On... 262 00:15:59,754 --> 00:16:02,421 That if we lost South Vietnam, 263 00:16:02,423 --> 00:16:04,891 that the rest of Southeast Asia would fall to the communists. 264 00:16:04,893 --> 00:16:08,795 There was an international communist conspiracy. 265 00:16:08,797 --> 00:16:11,363 We believed fervently in this stuff. 266 00:16:12,265 --> 00:16:15,334 NARRATOR: Neil Sheehan was a 25-year-old reporter 267 00:16:15,336 --> 00:16:18,704 for United Press International, UPI. 268 00:16:18,706 --> 00:16:22,874 He had served three years in the Army in Korea and Japan 269 00:16:22,876 --> 00:16:25,743 before deciding to become a newspaperman. 270 00:16:25,745 --> 00:16:30,048 Vietnam was his first full-time overseas assignment, 271 00:16:30,050 --> 00:16:32,050 and his only worry, he remembered, 272 00:16:32,052 --> 00:16:36,822 was that he would get there too late and miss out on the big story. 273 00:16:36,824 --> 00:16:41,126 Sheehan and other reporters rode along as the ARVN mounted 274 00:16:41,128 --> 00:16:44,762 a series of helicopter assaults on enemy strongholds 275 00:16:44,764 --> 00:16:47,165 in the Mekong Delta and elsewhere 276 00:16:47,167 --> 00:16:50,635 and brought terror to the Viet Cong. 277 00:16:50,637 --> 00:16:53,771 American pilots were at the controls. 278 00:16:54,973 --> 00:16:58,575 SHEEHAN: It was a crusade and it was thrilling. 279 00:16:58,577 --> 00:17:01,145 And you'd climb aboard the helicopters 280 00:17:01,147 --> 00:17:04,481 with the Vietnamese soldiers who were being taken out to battle. 281 00:17:04,483 --> 00:17:06,216 And they'd take off. 282 00:17:06,218 --> 00:17:08,952 And they'd contour-fly, they'd skim across the rice paddies 283 00:17:08,954 --> 00:17:11,221 at about three or four feet above the paddies, 284 00:17:11,223 --> 00:17:15,091 and then pop up over the tree lines that lined the fields. 285 00:17:15,093 --> 00:17:16,460 It was thrilling. 286 00:17:16,462 --> 00:17:17,794 I mean it was absolutely thrilling. 287 00:17:17,796 --> 00:17:20,864 And you believed in what was happening. 288 00:17:20,866 --> 00:17:23,099 I mean you had the sense that we're fighting here 289 00:17:23,101 --> 00:17:26,936 and some day we'll win, and this country will be a better, 290 00:17:26,938 --> 00:17:27,837 better country for our coming. 291 00:17:29,842 --> 00:17:32,775 NARRATOR: The new M-113 armored personnel carriers 292 00:17:32,777 --> 00:17:36,479 were capable of churning across rivers and rice paddies 293 00:17:36,481 --> 00:17:38,381 and right through the earthen dikes 294 00:17:38,383 --> 00:17:40,516 that separated one field from the next. 295 00:17:42,087 --> 00:17:47,323 The Viet Cong had nothing with which to stop them. 296 00:17:47,325 --> 00:17:50,717 JAMES SCANLON: We were just overwhelming them with force, 297 00:17:51,218 --> 00:17:52,500 with firepower. 298 00:17:53,031 --> 00:17:56,499 And the firefights would be over in a pretty short time. 299 00:17:56,501 --> 00:17:59,202 MAN ON RADIO: We have some people running along the dikes. 300 00:17:59,204 --> 00:18:02,105 Actually, the canal is perpendicular 301 00:18:02,107 --> 00:18:03,672 to the one you're attacking now. 302 00:18:03,674 --> 00:18:07,676 They have on black uniforms, and I estimate approximately 3-0. 303 00:18:07,678 --> 00:18:10,379 Do you have them in sight? Over. 304 00:18:10,381 --> 00:18:12,648 SCANLON: That's what was causing us to win, see. 305 00:18:12,650 --> 00:18:15,885 And we were winning one after the other. 306 00:18:15,887 --> 00:18:19,555 And we were not meeting a heck of a lot of resistance. 307 00:18:19,557 --> 00:18:23,358 NARRATOR: Captain James Scanlon had been stationed in West Germany 308 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:26,595 and had seen for himself the brutality with which 309 00:18:26,597 --> 00:18:29,264 the communist East Germans dealt with anyone 310 00:18:29,266 --> 00:18:32,768 who dared try to escape to the West. 311 00:18:32,770 --> 00:18:35,170 He was now in the Mekong Delta, 312 00:18:35,172 --> 00:18:38,240 an advisor to the 7th Division of the ARVN, 313 00:18:38,242 --> 00:18:42,744 and had begun to see evidence of Viet Cong brutality as well. 314 00:18:46,215 --> 00:18:49,851 SCANLON: Those of us who talked to the people who fled East Germany, 315 00:18:49,853 --> 00:18:53,988 we saw the need to stop the growth of communism, 316 00:18:53,990 --> 00:18:57,425 to stop the dominoes from being tumbled. 317 00:18:57,427 --> 00:18:59,861 That was a worthy cause. 318 00:19:01,598 --> 00:19:05,366 NARRATOR: As the ARVN and their advisors pursued the Viet Cong, 319 00:19:05,368 --> 00:19:08,102 the government of Ngo Dinh Diem had launched 320 00:19:08,104 --> 00:19:12,473 an ambitious program meant to gain control of the countryside 321 00:19:12,475 --> 00:19:15,275 by concentrating the rural population 322 00:19:15,277 --> 00:19:17,945 into thousands of fortified settlements, 323 00:19:17,947 --> 00:19:22,282 ringed with barbed wire and moats and bamboo spikes 324 00:19:22,284 --> 00:19:25,151 meant to keep out the Viet Cong. 325 00:19:25,153 --> 00:19:29,623 They were called strategic hamlets, part of the effort 326 00:19:29,625 --> 00:19:32,759 to win the hearts and minds, and loyalty, 327 00:19:32,761 --> 00:19:34,327 of the Vietnamese people. 328 00:19:34,329 --> 00:19:38,966 The French had tried something like it a decade before. 329 00:19:38,968 --> 00:19:43,136 They had called it pacification. 330 00:19:43,138 --> 00:19:45,706 ROBERT MCNAMARA: President Diem's strategic hamlet program 331 00:19:45,708 --> 00:19:48,240 is making substantial progress. 332 00:19:48,242 --> 00:19:52,912 About 1,600 of the some 14,000 hamlets 333 00:19:52,914 --> 00:19:56,616 have been fortified to date. 334 00:19:56,618 --> 00:19:58,951 NARRATOR: By the summer of 1962, 335 00:19:58,953 --> 00:20:02,354 news from South Vietnam seemed so promising 336 00:20:02,356 --> 00:20:06,225 that Defense Secretary Robert McNamara made sure 337 00:20:06,227 --> 00:20:09,394 the Pentagon was prepared to implement a plan 338 00:20:09,396 --> 00:20:12,898 for a gradual withdrawal of American advisors 339 00:20:12,900 --> 00:20:15,601 to be completed by 1965. 340 00:20:15,603 --> 00:20:19,271 So far as most Americans knew, 341 00:20:19,273 --> 00:20:22,241 the United States was achieving its goal: 342 00:20:22,243 --> 00:20:27,812 a stable, independent, anticommunist state in South Vietnam. 343 00:20:29,014 --> 00:20:32,317 It was "a struggle this country cannot shirk," 344 00:20:32,319 --> 00:20:34,186 the New York Times said, 345 00:20:34,188 --> 00:20:38,423 and the United States seemed to be winning it. 346 00:20:40,327 --> 00:20:44,263 But that same summer, Ho Chi Minh traveled to Beijing 347 00:20:44,265 --> 00:20:47,899 in search of more help from the Chinese. 348 00:20:47,901 --> 00:20:51,203 The American buildup in South Vietnam had alarmed him 349 00:20:51,205 --> 00:20:53,572 and the other leaders in Hanoi. 350 00:20:53,574 --> 00:20:56,940 Ho told the Chinese that American attacks 351 00:20:56,942 --> 00:21:02,813 on North Vietnam itself now seemed only a matter of time. 352 00:21:02,815 --> 00:21:06,884 The Chinese promised to equip and arm tens of thousands 353 00:21:06,886 --> 00:21:10,020 of Vietnamese soldiers. 354 00:21:10,022 --> 00:21:13,658 Meanwhile, the Politburo in Hanoi had directed 355 00:21:13,660 --> 00:21:17,027 that every able-bodied North Vietnamese man 356 00:21:17,029 --> 00:21:21,932 be required to serve in the armed forces. 357 00:21:21,934 --> 00:21:24,935 ("HONKY TONK PT. 1" BY BILL DOGGETT PLAYING) 358 00:21:28,808 --> 00:21:31,175 NARRATOR: Inspired by their president's call, 359 00:21:31,177 --> 00:21:34,477 thousands of young Americans would join the Peace Corps 360 00:21:34,479 --> 00:21:38,348 and other organizations to help project American ideals 361 00:21:38,350 --> 00:21:40,584 and goodwill around the world. 362 00:21:41,821 --> 00:21:46,690 ("HONKY TONK PT. 1" CONTINUES) 363 00:21:52,765 --> 00:21:57,534 RUFUS PHILLIPS: We were not only there in Vietnam to stop communism, 364 00:21:57,536 --> 00:22:01,404 but there had to be something positive. 365 00:22:01,406 --> 00:22:04,641 We're trying to find out what the Vietnamese people want 366 00:22:04,643 --> 00:22:07,344 and to help them get it. 367 00:22:07,346 --> 00:22:08,778 And that was very simple 368 00:22:08,780 --> 00:22:10,880 but, if you think about it, also very complex. 369 00:22:10,882 --> 00:22:13,316 But it went to the heart, I thought, 370 00:22:13,318 --> 00:22:15,785 of what we were trying to do. 371 00:22:15,787 --> 00:22:17,220 ("DIRTY OVERALLS" BY WOODY GUTHRIE PLAYING) 372 00:22:17,322 --> 00:22:21,124 NARRATOR: Pete Hunting, a 22-year-old from Oklahoma City, 373 00:22:21,126 --> 00:22:24,794 would go to Vietnam right after college to do what he could 374 00:22:24,796 --> 00:22:28,164 to help poor villagers in the countryside. 375 00:22:28,166 --> 00:22:30,667 WOODY GUTHRIE: ♪ I was a soldier in the fight ♪ 376 00:22:30,669 --> 00:22:33,069 ♪ And I fought till we won ♪ 377 00:22:33,071 --> 00:22:37,173 ♪ My uniform's my dirty overhauls ♪ 378 00:22:37,175 --> 00:22:39,075 HUNTING (DRAMATIZED): Dear Margo, 379 00:22:39,077 --> 00:22:41,543 I finally finished up my work in Phan Rang last week. 380 00:22:41,545 --> 00:22:43,545 Had spent a month working on a windmill 381 00:22:43,547 --> 00:22:45,648 I'd promised the people of one hamlet. 382 00:22:45,650 --> 00:22:50,352 Cost a lot of money, too, which I paid out of my own pocket. 383 00:22:50,354 --> 00:22:54,157 GUTHRIE: ♪ Well, I'll give you my sweat, I'll give you my blood ♪ 384 00:22:54,159 --> 00:22:56,358 HUNTING (DRAMATIZED): I'm in soaring spirits today 385 00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:59,561 despite all the natural disasters, political intrigues, 386 00:22:59,563 --> 00:23:01,697 and subversive activities. 387 00:23:01,699 --> 00:23:04,233 NARRATOR: Pete Hunting worked 388 00:23:04,235 --> 00:23:07,103 for the International Voluntary Services, 389 00:23:07,105 --> 00:23:10,973 a nonprofit organization committed to improving 390 00:23:10,975 --> 00:23:14,142 agriculture, education, and public health. 391 00:23:14,144 --> 00:23:17,345 He was one of hundreds of dedicated aid workers 392 00:23:17,347 --> 00:23:20,115 in South Vietnam. 393 00:23:20,117 --> 00:23:23,985 GUTHRIE: ♪ My hoe is my gun ♪ 394 00:23:23,987 --> 00:23:26,221 HUNTING (DRAMATIZED): Latest news on this side of the world 395 00:23:26,223 --> 00:23:28,256 is that I'll almost definitely be extending over here 396 00:23:28,258 --> 00:23:30,292 for another two years, 397 00:23:30,294 --> 00:23:32,294 providing the country stays in one piece that long. 398 00:23:35,532 --> 00:23:37,765 NARRATOR: Two years after he arrived, 399 00:23:37,767 --> 00:23:40,268 Pete Hunting was driving in the Mekong Delta 400 00:23:40,270 --> 00:23:43,205 when he ran into a Viet Cong ambush. 401 00:23:43,207 --> 00:23:46,674 He was shot five times in the head... 402 00:23:46,676 --> 00:23:48,409 (GUNSHOT) 403 00:23:48,411 --> 00:23:50,378 the first American civilian volunteer 404 00:23:50,380 --> 00:23:52,947 to be killed in Vietnam. 405 00:23:57,787 --> 00:24:08,396 (HELICOPTER BLADES BEATING, VOICES ON RADIO) 406 00:24:08,398 --> 00:24:13,835 (DISTORTED GUNFIRE, EXPLOSION) 407 00:24:21,577 --> 00:24:24,011 People used to joke in Vietnam 408 00:24:24,013 --> 00:24:25,779 about winning the hearts and minds. 409 00:24:25,781 --> 00:24:29,316 And you hear that expression, but that should not be a joke. 410 00:24:29,318 --> 00:24:31,718 It's a serious, serious problem. 411 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,221 If you pull off a military operation, 412 00:24:34,223 --> 00:24:37,892 and it may be successful on the military basis, 413 00:24:37,894 --> 00:24:40,895 but you destroy a village, 414 00:24:40,897 --> 00:24:44,798 then you've created a village of resistance. 415 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,635 NARRATOR: Few advisors understood the unique challenges 416 00:24:48,637 --> 00:24:51,505 of fighting an insurgency in Vietnam 417 00:24:51,507 --> 00:24:55,442 better than Lieutenant Colonel John Paul Vann. 418 00:24:55,444 --> 00:24:58,177 A career soldier from Virginia, 419 00:24:58,179 --> 00:25:00,479 he was the senior American advisor 420 00:25:00,481 --> 00:25:04,550 to the 7th ARVN Division in the Mekong Delta. 421 00:25:04,552 --> 00:25:09,155 Small, wiry and abrasive, John Paul Vann was convinced 422 00:25:09,157 --> 00:25:13,393 he knew how to defeat the Viet Cong. 423 00:25:13,395 --> 00:25:17,931 PHILIP BRADY: John Paul Vann was simply the most remarkable soldier 424 00:25:17,933 --> 00:25:19,098 I ever met. 425 00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:21,100 Period. 426 00:25:21,102 --> 00:25:25,939 The biggest challenge of John Paul Vann's life 427 00:25:25,941 --> 00:25:31,978 was somehow saving Vietnam, winning. 428 00:25:31,980 --> 00:25:34,913 That, to him, was the ultimate challenge. 429 00:25:34,915 --> 00:25:37,449 (EXPLOSION) 430 00:25:37,451 --> 00:25:39,151 NARRATOR: When it became clear to Vann 431 00:25:39,153 --> 00:25:42,120 that the tactics the Americans had taught the ARVN 432 00:25:42,122 --> 00:25:45,324 were beginning to make more enemies than friends, 433 00:25:45,326 --> 00:25:50,095 he sought out newspapermen to spread the word. 434 00:25:50,097 --> 00:25:53,999 NEIL SHEEHAN: He was able to explain to us what was going on. 435 00:25:54,001 --> 00:25:57,402 The important thing was not to alienate the population. 436 00:25:57,404 --> 00:26:00,372 That if you got sniper fire from a hamlet, 437 00:26:00,374 --> 00:26:02,774 you sent in riflemen to take out the sniper. 438 00:26:02,776 --> 00:26:05,143 You didn't shell the place, because you were going to kill 439 00:26:05,145 --> 00:26:07,544 women and kids and destroy houses 440 00:26:07,546 --> 00:26:09,813 and you were going to turn the population against you. 441 00:26:12,318 --> 00:26:15,586 NARRATOR: Most press coverage of Vietnam was upbeat 442 00:26:15,588 --> 00:26:18,389 in the tradition of previous wars. 443 00:26:18,391 --> 00:26:23,327 But a handful of young reporters including Neil Sheehan, 444 00:26:23,329 --> 00:26:25,863 David Halberstam of the New York Times, 445 00:26:25,865 --> 00:26:28,499 and Malcolm Browne of the Associated Press, 446 00:26:28,501 --> 00:26:32,370 who spent time in the field with officers like Vann, 447 00:26:32,372 --> 00:26:36,540 were beginning to see that from the Vietnamese countryside, 448 00:26:36,542 --> 00:26:38,775 things looked very different than they did 449 00:26:38,777 --> 00:26:42,745 from the press offices in Washington or Saigon. 450 00:26:42,747 --> 00:26:46,983 SHEEHAN: So it was terribly important that we not only win the war 451 00:26:46,985 --> 00:26:49,819 but that we as reporters report the truth 452 00:26:49,821 --> 00:26:52,822 that would help to win the war. 453 00:26:52,824 --> 00:26:55,958 We were very fervent in wanting to report the truth 454 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,029 because it was very important to the welfare of our country 455 00:26:59,031 --> 00:27:00,263 and to the welfare of the world. 456 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,102 NARRATOR: Sheehan and his colleagues began asking tough questions 457 00:27:06,104 --> 00:27:11,141 about what constituted progress, what victory would look like, 458 00:27:11,143 --> 00:27:13,543 and if the people in the countryside, 459 00:27:13,545 --> 00:27:17,312 where 80% of South Vietnam's population lived, 460 00:27:17,314 --> 00:27:22,217 could ever trust the government in Saigon. 461 00:27:22,219 --> 00:27:25,220 SHEEHAN: I remember going, during one of Robert McNamara's visits, 462 00:27:25,222 --> 00:27:28,357 out to one of these hamlets. 463 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,859 The Vietnamese general who commanded the area 464 00:27:29,861 --> 00:27:31,460 was telling McNamara what a wonderful thing this was. 465 00:27:31,462 --> 00:27:34,096 And the... the... some of these farmers were down 466 00:27:34,098 --> 00:27:37,833 digging a ditch around the... around the hamlet. 467 00:27:37,835 --> 00:27:40,970 And I looked at their faces and they were really angry. 468 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,607 I mean it was very obvious to me 469 00:27:44,609 --> 00:27:47,176 that if these people could, they'd cut our throats. 470 00:27:51,782 --> 00:27:55,750 NARRATOR: Farmers resented being forced to abandon their homes 471 00:27:55,752 --> 00:27:58,320 and move to strategic hamlets. 472 00:27:58,322 --> 00:28:02,458 Corrupt officials siphoned off funds. 473 00:28:02,460 --> 00:28:04,960 And villagers blamed the Diem regime 474 00:28:04,962 --> 00:28:08,930 for failing to protect them from guerrilla attacks. 475 00:28:08,932 --> 00:28:14,203 As the people's anger grew, so did the ranks of the Viet Cong. 476 00:28:14,205 --> 00:28:18,607 SHEEHAN: It turned out that the Viet Cong were recruiting men 477 00:28:18,609 --> 00:28:22,144 right out of those strategic... so-called strategic hamlets. 478 00:28:22,146 --> 00:28:23,945 And then the whole program fell apart. 479 00:28:25,315 --> 00:28:26,781 NGUYEN NGOC: 480 00:28:48,038 --> 00:28:51,940 NARRATOR: Nguyen Ngoc's father was a postal clerk south of Danang. 481 00:28:51,942 --> 00:28:56,544 His brothers and sisters taught in South Vietnamese schools. 482 00:28:56,546 --> 00:29:00,313 But he joined the revolution, and as a political officer, 483 00:29:00,315 --> 00:29:04,251 wrote poems, songs, and slogans to inspire the people 484 00:29:04,253 --> 00:29:08,956 in the countryside to support the Viet Cong. 485 00:29:08,958 --> 00:29:13,527 DUONG VAN MAI: The Viet Cong cadre would come in and talk to them 486 00:29:13,529 --> 00:29:18,398 and their message is usually (SPEAKING VIETNAMESE), 487 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,934 which means "turn your grief into action. 488 00:29:20,936 --> 00:29:23,403 "Do something about it. 489 00:29:23,405 --> 00:29:25,472 "Join us. 490 00:29:25,474 --> 00:29:26,940 "We'll fight together. 491 00:29:26,942 --> 00:29:31,510 "We'll liberate the country from this corrupt, unjust government. 492 00:29:31,512 --> 00:29:33,546 "We'll throw out the foreigners. 493 00:29:33,548 --> 00:29:35,381 "We'll reunify the country. 494 00:29:35,383 --> 00:29:38,517 "And we'll bring in this great regime 495 00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:40,219 "that will take care of you 496 00:29:40,221 --> 00:29:41,821 and bring economic and social justice." 497 00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:47,326 NARRATOR: The Viet Cong ran rival local governments, 498 00:29:47,328 --> 00:29:51,130 complete with their own tax collectors and school teachers, 499 00:29:51,132 --> 00:29:55,367 spies and propagandists, and province chiefs. 500 00:29:58,106 --> 00:30:00,439 To make matters worse, 501 00:30:00,441 --> 00:30:04,275 ARVN troops and American advisors now found themselves 502 00:30:04,277 --> 00:30:07,312 confronted by a new threat: 503 00:30:07,314 --> 00:30:10,548 battalions of well-armed Viet Cong soldiers, 504 00:30:10,550 --> 00:30:13,819 as well as by local guerrillas. 505 00:30:13,821 --> 00:30:16,121 SHEEHAN: We'd armed them. 506 00:30:16,123 --> 00:30:19,591 You could hear the arming of the Viet Cong. 507 00:30:19,593 --> 00:30:23,095 Back in early '62, they only had one machine gun per battalion. 508 00:30:23,097 --> 00:30:24,262 (SINGLE GUNFIRE BURST) 509 00:30:24,264 --> 00:30:25,897 It was sporadic fire. 510 00:30:25,899 --> 00:30:29,835 Then, as they captured more and more of these American arms, 511 00:30:29,837 --> 00:30:31,803 when you made contact, it fi... 512 00:30:31,805 --> 00:30:34,072 it would build up into a drumfire of automatic 513 00:30:34,074 --> 00:30:35,607 and semi-automatic weapons. 514 00:30:35,609 --> 00:30:38,375 (CACOPHONY OF GUNFIRE BURSTS) 515 00:30:42,414 --> 00:30:45,549 RUFUS PHILLIPS: Secretary McNamara decided that he would draw up 516 00:30:45,551 --> 00:30:48,352 some kind of a chart to determine 517 00:30:48,354 --> 00:30:51,288 whether we were winning or not. 518 00:30:51,290 --> 00:30:54,058 And he was putting things in 519 00:30:54,060 --> 00:30:56,861 like numbers of weapons recovered, 520 00:30:56,863 --> 00:30:59,196 numbers of Viet Cong killed. 521 00:30:59,198 --> 00:31:01,431 Very statistical. 522 00:31:04,137 --> 00:31:06,703 And he asked Edward Lansdale, 523 00:31:06,705 --> 00:31:10,474 who was then in the Pentagon as head of Special Operations, 524 00:31:10,476 --> 00:31:12,609 to come down and look at this. 525 00:31:12,611 --> 00:31:16,813 And so Lansdale did and he said, "There's something missing." 526 00:31:16,815 --> 00:31:20,150 And McNamara said, "What?" 527 00:31:20,152 --> 00:31:23,787 And Lansdale said, "The feelings of the Vietnamese people." 528 00:31:23,789 --> 00:31:27,758 You couldn't reduce this to a statistic. 529 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,329 NARRATOR: Robert McNamara had vowed to make America's military 530 00:31:32,331 --> 00:31:33,897 "cost-effective." 531 00:31:33,899 --> 00:31:37,668 He demanded that everything be quantified. 532 00:31:37,670 --> 00:31:41,571 In Saigon, General Paul D. Harkins, 533 00:31:41,573 --> 00:31:45,007 head of the Military Assistance Command, Vietnam, 534 00:31:45,009 --> 00:31:48,344 known as MACV, dutifully complied. 535 00:31:48,346 --> 00:31:52,981 He and his staff generated mountains of daily, weekly, 536 00:31:52,983 --> 00:31:55,318 monthly, and quarterly data 537 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,387 on more than a hundred separate indicators, 538 00:31:58,389 --> 00:32:02,891 far more data than could ever be adequately analyzed. 539 00:32:02,893 --> 00:32:06,329 (TYPEWRITER KEYS CLACKING) 540 00:32:06,331 --> 00:32:09,164 General Harkins had little use for skeptical reporters 541 00:32:09,166 --> 00:32:10,800 like Neil Sheehan. 542 00:32:10,802 --> 00:32:13,436 Bad news was to be buried. 543 00:32:13,438 --> 00:32:17,605 Harkins ignored the alarming after action reports 544 00:32:17,607 --> 00:32:21,276 John Paul Vann and other officers were sending in 545 00:32:21,278 --> 00:32:23,478 from the field. 546 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,414 DONALD GREGG: I was going to be made head of the Vietnam desk 547 00:32:26,416 --> 00:32:28,550 at CIA headquarters. 548 00:32:28,552 --> 00:32:31,887 And the first person of importance that I met 549 00:32:31,889 --> 00:32:34,189 was General Harkins. 550 00:32:34,191 --> 00:32:36,791 And he started out by saying, 551 00:32:36,793 --> 00:32:39,661 "Mr. Gregg, I don't care what you hear from anybody else, 552 00:32:39,663 --> 00:32:42,064 "I can tell you without a doubt we're going to be out of here 553 00:32:42,066 --> 00:32:43,665 with a military victory in six months." 554 00:32:45,369 --> 00:32:47,402 JAMES MOSSMAN: The country's 12 million peasants 555 00:32:47,404 --> 00:32:50,038 can scarcely remember what peace was like. 556 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,006 They're caught between the predatory guerrillas 557 00:32:52,008 --> 00:32:54,541 and the almost equally demanding soldiery. 558 00:32:54,543 --> 00:32:56,944 Their lives are lived in a state of permanent uncertainty, 559 00:32:56,946 --> 00:32:59,646 punctuated by bouts of violence 560 00:32:59,648 --> 00:33:01,182 as government forces come to grips 561 00:33:01,184 --> 00:33:03,450 with the black-clad communist rebel forces 562 00:33:03,452 --> 00:33:04,651 called the Viet Cong. 563 00:33:09,492 --> 00:33:11,893 HUY DUC: 564 00:33:50,999 --> 00:33:54,234 NGUYEN NGOC: 565 00:34:36,910 --> 00:34:39,478 CAO XUAN DAI: 566 00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:07,205 On our side we were not as committed 567 00:35:07,207 --> 00:35:09,140 and we were... 568 00:35:09,142 --> 00:35:12,510 our leaders were corrupt and incompetent. 569 00:35:12,512 --> 00:35:17,581 And so deep down we'll always have this fear, 570 00:35:17,583 --> 00:35:23,287 this suspicion that in the end it'll be the communists who won. 571 00:35:23,289 --> 00:35:26,857 TOM VALLELY: When John Kennedy assembled 572 00:35:26,859 --> 00:35:28,993 what he thinks is the best and the brightest, 573 00:35:28,995 --> 00:35:35,299 20 years before that in a cave in the northern part 574 00:35:35,301 --> 00:35:37,968 of Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh also put together 575 00:35:37,970 --> 00:35:39,504 his best and the brightest. 576 00:35:39,506 --> 00:35:42,706 And these guys are at it for a while. 577 00:35:42,708 --> 00:35:46,343 And when we show up, they were far along 578 00:35:46,345 --> 00:35:52,249 to consolidating their victory over this inevitable conflict 579 00:35:52,251 --> 00:35:56,854 between Ho Chi Minh and John F. Kennedy's vision. 580 00:35:56,856 --> 00:36:01,892 The more you think about the American strategy, 581 00:36:01,894 --> 00:36:05,696 the more you know 582 00:36:05,698 --> 00:36:08,265 that it was never going to work out particularly well. 583 00:36:23,415 --> 00:36:28,851 RHEAULT: I was at my top of my game when I was in combat. 584 00:36:34,059 --> 00:36:37,260 You don't have the luxury to indulge your fear 585 00:36:37,262 --> 00:36:39,262 because other people's lives depend upon 586 00:36:39,264 --> 00:36:40,430 you keeping your head cold. 587 00:36:49,340 --> 00:36:52,374 You know, when something goes wrong, 588 00:36:52,376 --> 00:36:53,809 they call it emotional numbing. 589 00:36:53,811 --> 00:36:56,212 It's not very good in civilian life, 590 00:36:56,214 --> 00:36:58,214 but it's pretty useful in combat. 591 00:37:10,027 --> 00:37:12,761 To be able to get absolutely very cold 592 00:37:12,763 --> 00:37:17,733 about what needs to be done and to stick with it. 593 00:37:23,806 --> 00:37:26,774 To me it's, it's a little bit distressing to realize 594 00:37:26,776 --> 00:37:28,610 that I was at my best 595 00:37:28,612 --> 00:37:31,078 doing something as terrible as war. 596 00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:43,391 MOSSMAN: President Kennedy has staked his reputation in Asia 597 00:37:43,393 --> 00:37:46,327 on saving South Vietnam from communism. 598 00:37:46,329 --> 00:37:48,763 As the army makes the sweep towards the village 599 00:37:48,765 --> 00:37:50,665 suspected of harboring Viet Cong, 600 00:37:50,667 --> 00:37:53,601 it can't tell whether it will meet resistance. 601 00:38:00,009 --> 00:38:02,276 The troops round up all the young men they can find, 602 00:38:02,278 --> 00:38:05,146 since they can't tell who is a communist just by looking. 603 00:38:07,817 --> 00:38:10,584 Those who try to run for it are shot 604 00:38:10,586 --> 00:38:12,352 on the assumption they have something to hide. 605 00:38:17,526 --> 00:38:21,028 TRAN NGOC CHAU (IN ENGLISH): 606 00:39:04,306 --> 00:39:09,242 NARRATOR: Each of South Vietnam's 44 provinces had its own chief. 607 00:39:09,244 --> 00:39:12,111 Some were simply political appointees, 608 00:39:12,113 --> 00:39:15,013 corrupt allies of President Diem. 609 00:39:15,015 --> 00:39:20,753 Tran Ngoc Chau, province chief of Kien Hoa, was different. 610 00:39:20,755 --> 00:39:25,691 A privileged judge's son from the old imperial city of Hue, 611 00:39:25,693 --> 00:39:28,694 he and two of his brothers had fought against the French 612 00:39:28,696 --> 00:39:30,263 with the Viet Minh. 613 00:39:30,265 --> 00:39:34,433 But he had refused to join the Communist Party; 614 00:39:34,435 --> 00:39:37,436 he admired their dedication, but disliked the way 615 00:39:37,438 --> 00:39:40,640 they punished those who dared differ with them. 616 00:39:40,642 --> 00:39:43,775 Instead, he left the Viet Minh, 617 00:39:43,777 --> 00:39:46,978 became a major in the army fighting against them, 618 00:39:46,980 --> 00:39:50,882 and eventually so impressed Diem with his insider's knowledge 619 00:39:50,884 --> 00:39:54,852 of communist tactics that he was promoted to colonel 620 00:39:54,854 --> 00:40:00,725 and made chief of Kien Hoa, a Viet Cong stronghold. 621 00:40:00,727 --> 00:40:04,562 PHILLIPS: He was absolutely incorruptible. 622 00:40:04,564 --> 00:40:09,701 And people came to really understand that here's a guy 623 00:40:09,703 --> 00:40:12,771 who's, even though it's not an elected system, 624 00:40:12,773 --> 00:40:15,440 who never... nevertheless really represents us. 625 00:40:17,344 --> 00:40:19,343 NARRATOR: "Give me a budget that equals the cost 626 00:40:19,345 --> 00:40:23,647 of one American helicopter," Chau liked to say, 627 00:40:23,649 --> 00:40:26,383 "and I'll give you a pacified province. 628 00:40:26,385 --> 00:40:30,487 "With that much money, I can raise the standard of living 629 00:40:30,489 --> 00:40:32,190 "of the rice farmers, 630 00:40:32,192 --> 00:40:33,991 "and government officials can be paid enough 631 00:40:33,993 --> 00:40:38,863 so they won't think it necessary to steal." 632 00:40:38,865 --> 00:40:41,365 Rather than hunt down the Viet Cong, 633 00:40:41,367 --> 00:40:43,901 he sought to persuade them. 634 00:40:45,404 --> 00:40:48,405 TRAN NGOC CHAU (IN ENGLISH): 635 00:41:36,220 --> 00:41:39,422 ("WALK, DON'T RUN" BY THE VENTURES PLAYING) 636 00:41:39,424 --> 00:41:43,158 NARRATOR: Back home, Americans were paying little attention 637 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,461 to what was happening in Vietnam. 638 00:41:45,463 --> 00:41:48,297 They were watching The Beverly Hillbillies 639 00:41:48,299 --> 00:41:50,500 and Gunsmoke on TV, 640 00:41:50,502 --> 00:41:53,469 were interested in whether the Yankees would win 641 00:41:53,471 --> 00:41:55,037 the World Series again 642 00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:59,274 and in the recent death of Marilyn Monroe. 643 00:41:59,276 --> 00:42:02,377 ("STAND BY ME" BY BEN E. KING PLAYING) 644 00:42:02,379 --> 00:42:04,880 But some Americans had been growing impatient 645 00:42:04,882 --> 00:42:08,249 with the slow pace of social change. 646 00:42:08,251 --> 00:42:09,984 BILL ZIMMERMAN: We were told in the '50s 647 00:42:09,986 --> 00:42:12,821 that we lived in the best country in the world. 648 00:42:12,823 --> 00:42:16,291 In the middle of, you know, trying to figure out 649 00:42:16,293 --> 00:42:18,693 what it meant to be a citizen of the... 650 00:42:18,695 --> 00:42:21,062 of this best country in the world, 651 00:42:21,064 --> 00:42:22,964 suddenly the civil rights movement exploded 652 00:42:22,966 --> 00:42:25,133 into our consciousness. 653 00:42:25,135 --> 00:42:31,339 BEN E. KING: ♪ When the night has come... ♪ 654 00:42:31,341 --> 00:42:33,307 ZIMMERMAN: We didn't think we had any power. 655 00:42:33,309 --> 00:42:36,477 We didn't think we could be actors in history, 656 00:42:36,479 --> 00:42:38,946 that we could affect things. 657 00:42:41,417 --> 00:42:44,552 KING: ♪ No, I won't be afraid ♪ 658 00:42:44,554 --> 00:42:46,487 ♪ Oh, I won't... ♪ 659 00:42:46,489 --> 00:42:48,255 ZIMMERMAN: And suddenly, you know, 660 00:42:48,257 --> 00:42:50,190 these young black students in the South 661 00:42:50,192 --> 00:42:51,926 were doing exactly that. 662 00:42:51,928 --> 00:42:55,295 And it just blew the tops of our heads off. 663 00:42:55,297 --> 00:43:00,901 KING: ♪ So darling, darling, stand by me ♪ 664 00:43:00,903 --> 00:43:05,272 ♪ Oh, stand by me ♪ 665 00:43:05,274 --> 00:43:10,543 ♪ Oh, stand, stand by me ♪ 666 00:43:10,545 --> 00:43:13,480 ♪ Stand by me ♪ 667 00:43:13,482 --> 00:43:16,216 ♪ If the sky that we look upon... ♪ 668 00:43:16,218 --> 00:43:19,586 NARRATOR: Other Americans were concerned about the proliferation 669 00:43:19,588 --> 00:43:22,990 of nuclear weapons in the world. 670 00:43:22,992 --> 00:43:27,027 Perhaps it would be a good thing to put Khrushchev and Kennedy 671 00:43:27,029 --> 00:43:30,864 on an island and not let either one of them off 672 00:43:30,866 --> 00:43:33,467 until they came to an agreement. 673 00:43:33,469 --> 00:43:35,935 KING: ♪ Stand by me ♪ 674 00:43:35,937 --> 00:43:40,506 ♪ And darling, darling, stand by me. ♪ 675 00:43:44,912 --> 00:43:48,080 (BICYCLE BELLS RING, MOTORS RUMBLE) 676 00:43:56,024 --> 00:43:59,291 SHEEHAN: And if you were in a café when Diem was giving a speech, 677 00:43:59,293 --> 00:44:01,160 somebody would get up and shut the radio off, 678 00:44:01,162 --> 00:44:02,928 it would be coming in over the radio. 679 00:44:02,930 --> 00:44:05,364 Somebody would get up and they'd just shut the radio off. 680 00:44:05,366 --> 00:44:09,334 I mean, he was not connected with... to his own population. 681 00:44:12,573 --> 00:44:17,509 PHAN QUANG TUE: Diem was simply the opposite of what democracy was. 682 00:44:17,511 --> 00:44:21,346 South Vietnam, in the competition against the North, 683 00:44:21,348 --> 00:44:26,518 that should been, should have been a golden opportunity 684 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:31,957 to have that society open with the free press, 685 00:44:31,959 --> 00:44:34,092 free expression. 686 00:44:34,094 --> 00:44:36,995 But there was not much choice 687 00:44:36,997 --> 00:44:41,399 if the two system are structurally dictator 688 00:44:41,401 --> 00:44:42,900 and oppressive systems... 689 00:44:42,902 --> 00:44:48,973 one under the Communist Party, one under a family. 690 00:44:50,177 --> 00:44:52,610 CHAU (SPEAKING ENGLISH): 691 00:45:06,126 --> 00:45:09,694 NARRATOR: Diem's brother, Ngo Dinh Nhu, had been the architect 692 00:45:09,696 --> 00:45:12,297 of the strategic hamlet program, 693 00:45:12,299 --> 00:45:16,533 ran a personal political party that mirrored the techniques 694 00:45:16,535 --> 00:45:19,069 and the ruthlessness of the communists, 695 00:45:19,071 --> 00:45:23,340 and supervised a host of internal security units 696 00:45:23,342 --> 00:45:27,277 that spied on and seized enemies of the regime. 697 00:45:29,381 --> 00:45:31,582 Some reporters who probed too deeply 698 00:45:31,584 --> 00:45:34,050 into what Diem and Nhu were doing 699 00:45:34,052 --> 00:45:36,320 were ordered out of the country. 700 00:45:36,322 --> 00:45:37,454 (GUNSHOT) 701 00:45:37,456 --> 00:45:39,990 When an American journalist objected, 702 00:45:39,992 --> 00:45:44,094 Nhu's sharp-tongued wife told him Vietnam had no use 703 00:45:44,096 --> 00:45:46,597 for "your crazy freedoms." 704 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,134 Meanwhile, out in the countryside, 705 00:45:50,136 --> 00:45:54,437 John Paul Vann and other advisors had begun to notice 706 00:45:54,439 --> 00:45:58,207 that the corruption within Diem's regime had filtered down 707 00:45:58,209 --> 00:46:00,276 to the commanders in the field. 708 00:46:00,278 --> 00:46:05,281 Troops, who had once been willing to engage the enemy, 709 00:46:05,283 --> 00:46:09,485 now seemed strangely reluctant. 710 00:46:09,487 --> 00:46:14,423 God, I was told so many times, "(SPEAKING VIETNAMESE)." 711 00:46:14,425 --> 00:46:16,359 You know, "Scanlon, (SPEAKING VIETNAMESE)." 712 00:46:16,361 --> 00:46:17,560 Um... 713 00:46:17,562 --> 00:46:22,998 very dangerous, you know, going out there. 714 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,768 NEIL SHEEHAN: John Vann would go out with them at night. 715 00:46:25,770 --> 00:46:29,971 And he noticed that somebody would always cough 716 00:46:29,973 --> 00:46:33,475 or make some other slight noise when it turned out 717 00:46:33,477 --> 00:46:35,943 that the Viet Cong were heading into the ambush site. 718 00:46:35,945 --> 00:46:37,812 They did not want to get in a fight. 719 00:46:37,814 --> 00:46:41,115 NARRATOR: South Vietnamese officers were chosen 720 00:46:41,117 --> 00:46:44,719 less for their combat skill than for their loyalty 721 00:46:44,721 --> 00:46:48,423 to President Diem, and their men knew it. 722 00:46:49,893 --> 00:46:51,359 RHEAULT: What we should have done is 723 00:46:51,361 --> 00:46:55,963 either forced the Vietnamese... I mean really forced them... 724 00:46:55,965 --> 00:46:58,200 to clean up their act. 725 00:46:58,202 --> 00:47:00,302 And if they wouldn't clean up their act to say, 726 00:47:00,304 --> 00:47:02,770 "We're out of here. 727 00:47:02,772 --> 00:47:05,606 "Because we don't bet on losing horses. 728 00:47:05,608 --> 00:47:08,142 "This is a losing horse. 729 00:47:08,144 --> 00:47:10,578 You are not going to win this insurgency." 730 00:47:10,580 --> 00:47:13,380 We, as Americans, should have understood the desire 731 00:47:13,382 --> 00:47:17,018 of the Vietnamese people to have their own country. 732 00:47:17,020 --> 00:47:19,821 I mean we did the same thing to the Brits. 733 00:47:25,695 --> 00:47:30,598 NARRATOR: In October of 1962, the United States and the Soviet Union 734 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,434 came closer than they would ever come again 735 00:47:33,436 --> 00:47:36,303 to mutually assured destruction. 736 00:47:36,305 --> 00:47:39,373 Good evening, my fellow citizens. 737 00:47:39,375 --> 00:47:43,477 This government, as promised, has maintained 738 00:47:43,479 --> 00:47:47,348 the closest surveillance of the Soviet military buildup 739 00:47:47,350 --> 00:47:48,949 on the island of Cuba. 740 00:47:50,185 --> 00:47:52,286 Within the past week, 741 00:47:52,288 --> 00:47:55,723 unmistakable evidence has established the fact 742 00:47:55,725 --> 00:47:59,226 that a series of offensive missile sites 743 00:47:59,228 --> 00:48:04,298 is now in preparation on that imprisoned island. 744 00:48:04,300 --> 00:48:07,567 NARRATOR: The Soviets had secretly placed nuclear missiles 745 00:48:07,569 --> 00:48:10,737 90 miles from the United States. 746 00:48:10,739 --> 00:48:15,708 The Joint Chiefs of Staff urged President Kennedy to bomb Cuba. 747 00:48:15,710 --> 00:48:19,979 He resisted and instead ordered a naval blockade 748 00:48:19,981 --> 00:48:24,183 to stop Soviet ships from resupplying the island. 749 00:48:25,953 --> 00:48:31,190 For 13 excruciating days, the world held its breath. 750 00:48:34,862 --> 00:48:38,197 Finally, in exchange for a private pledge 751 00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:41,000 to remove American missiles from Turkey, 752 00:48:41,002 --> 00:48:44,403 Khrushchev agreed to remove his missiles from Cuba. 753 00:48:47,408 --> 00:48:50,442 Neither the United States nor the Soviet Union 754 00:48:50,444 --> 00:48:54,546 wanted so direct a confrontation ever again. 755 00:48:54,548 --> 00:48:57,115 From now on, limited wars, 756 00:48:57,117 --> 00:48:59,718 like the growing conflict in Vietnam, 757 00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:02,987 would assume still greater importance. 758 00:49:06,527 --> 00:49:11,062 MUSGRAVE: I'd grown up in the shadow of the mushroom cloud. 759 00:49:11,064 --> 00:49:15,166 And I remember the... watching President Kennedy speak 760 00:49:15,168 --> 00:49:16,901 during the Cuban Missile Crisis 761 00:49:16,903 --> 00:49:19,204 and wondering if I was ever gonna kiss a girl. 762 00:49:19,206 --> 00:49:22,106 And so this was just continuing that battle 763 00:49:22,108 --> 00:49:24,042 against the Russians. 764 00:49:24,044 --> 00:49:27,645 Only we were fighting, you know, their, their proxies, 765 00:49:27,647 --> 00:49:30,915 the Vietnamese there... but it was monolithic communism. 766 00:49:32,585 --> 00:49:35,553 It didn't matter to me where it was, I was going to go 767 00:49:35,555 --> 00:49:39,690 if my government said we needed to be there. 768 00:49:39,692 --> 00:49:42,693 We were probably the last kids of any generation 769 00:49:42,695 --> 00:49:44,095 that actually believed 770 00:49:44,097 --> 00:49:45,629 our government would never lie to us. 771 00:49:51,136 --> 00:49:53,503 SHEEHAN: We had been writing stories about all the flaws 772 00:49:53,505 --> 00:49:56,439 on the Saigon side... about how they wouldn't fight, 773 00:49:56,441 --> 00:49:59,209 about the corruption, they wouldn't obey orders, 774 00:49:59,211 --> 00:50:00,610 the disorganization. 775 00:50:02,748 --> 00:50:07,351 And then all of a sudden the Viet Cong, for the first time, 776 00:50:07,353 --> 00:50:08,886 the "raggedy-ass little bastards" 777 00:50:08,888 --> 00:50:11,688 as the Harkins's people in Saigon called them, 778 00:50:11,690 --> 00:50:13,423 stood and fought. 779 00:50:13,425 --> 00:50:15,692 And suddenly all the flaws on the Saigon side 780 00:50:15,694 --> 00:50:18,195 were illuminated by this. 781 00:50:18,197 --> 00:50:21,431 Like a star shell, it illuminated the battlefield. 782 00:50:21,433 --> 00:50:22,766 Everything came out. 783 00:50:24,169 --> 00:50:27,570 NARRATOR: A few days after Christmas 1962, 784 00:50:27,572 --> 00:50:31,140 the 7th ARVN Division got orders to capture 785 00:50:31,142 --> 00:50:33,476 a Viet Cong radio transmitter 786 00:50:33,478 --> 00:50:38,180 broadcasting from a spot some 40 miles southwest of Saigon 787 00:50:38,182 --> 00:50:41,284 in a village called Tan Thoi. 788 00:50:41,286 --> 00:50:44,153 The village was surrounded by rice paddies. 789 00:50:44,155 --> 00:50:50,192 An irrigation dike linked it to a neighboring hamlet... Ap Bac. 790 00:50:50,194 --> 00:50:54,564 Intelligence suggested no more than 120 guerrillas 791 00:50:54,566 --> 00:50:57,033 were guarding the transmitter. 792 00:50:57,035 --> 00:51:00,436 John Paul Vann helped draw up what seemed to be 793 00:51:00,438 --> 00:51:02,971 a foolproof plan of attack. 794 00:51:02,973 --> 00:51:07,309 Supported by helicopters and armored personnel carriers, 795 00:51:07,311 --> 00:51:11,212 some 1,200 South Vietnamese troops would attack the village 796 00:51:11,214 --> 00:51:13,248 from three sides. 797 00:51:13,250 --> 00:51:16,217 When the surviving Viet Cong tried to flee through the gap 798 00:51:16,219 --> 00:51:20,255 left open for them, as they always had whenever outnumbered 799 00:51:20,257 --> 00:51:22,524 and confronted by modern weapons, 800 00:51:22,526 --> 00:51:26,161 artillery and airstrikes would destroy them. 801 00:51:26,163 --> 00:51:30,732 Vann would observe the fighting from a spotter plane. 802 00:51:30,734 --> 00:51:36,438 But the intelligence underlying it all turned out to be wrong. 803 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:42,077 There were more than 340 Viet Cong, not 120, in the area. 804 00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:45,080 Communist spies had tipped them off 805 00:51:45,082 --> 00:51:47,349 that they were soon to be attacked. 806 00:51:47,351 --> 00:51:51,219 And this time they would not flee without a fight. 807 00:51:52,822 --> 00:51:55,690 Among them was Le Quan Cong, 808 00:51:55,692 --> 00:51:59,894 who had been a guerrilla fighter since 1951, when he was 12. 809 00:52:14,610 --> 00:52:19,746 NARRATOR: At 6:35 in the morning on January 2, 1963, 810 00:52:19,748 --> 00:52:23,183 ten American helicopters ferried an ARVN company 811 00:52:23,185 --> 00:52:26,353 to a spot just north of Tan Thoi. 812 00:52:29,392 --> 00:52:32,626 They met no resistance. 813 00:52:32,628 --> 00:52:36,263 Meanwhile, two South Vietnamese Civil Guard battalions 814 00:52:36,265 --> 00:52:39,400 approached Ap Bac from the South on foot. 815 00:52:42,571 --> 00:52:46,272 The Viet Cong commander let the Civil Guards get within 100 feet 816 00:52:46,274 --> 00:52:48,675 before giving the order to fire. 817 00:52:51,379 --> 00:52:53,980 Several South Vietnamese soldiers were killed. 818 00:52:58,086 --> 00:53:01,154 Survivors hid behind a dike. 819 00:53:01,156 --> 00:53:04,024 (GUNFIRE) 820 00:53:04,026 --> 00:53:06,026 Ten more helicopters, 821 00:53:06,028 --> 00:53:09,763 filled with troops and escorted by five helicopter gunships, 822 00:53:09,765 --> 00:53:10,897 roared in to help. 823 00:53:12,568 --> 00:53:14,400 LE QUAN CONG: 824 00:53:38,092 --> 00:53:42,427 NARRATOR: Viet Cong machine guns hit 14 of the 15 aircraft. 825 00:53:42,429 --> 00:53:47,566 Five would be destroyed, killing and wounding American crewmen. 826 00:53:49,169 --> 00:53:51,203 LE QUAN CONG: 827 00:53:57,544 --> 00:53:59,978 NARRATOR: The enemy concentrated their fire on the ARVN 828 00:53:59,980 --> 00:54:03,081 struggling to get out of the downed helicopters. 829 00:54:03,083 --> 00:54:06,084 "It was like shooting ducks for the Viet Cong," 830 00:54:06,086 --> 00:54:07,885 an American crewman remembered. 831 00:54:10,424 --> 00:54:13,458 Colonel Vann circled helplessly overhead. 832 00:54:13,460 --> 00:54:16,027 He radioed the ARVN commander, 833 00:54:16,029 --> 00:54:19,931 urging him to send an APC unit to rescue the men. 834 00:54:21,435 --> 00:54:24,101 SCANLON: I got the word from John Vann 835 00:54:24,103 --> 00:54:27,004 that American helicopters were down. 836 00:54:27,006 --> 00:54:29,507 They were right in front of the Viet Cong positions. 837 00:54:29,509 --> 00:54:33,010 We had Americans killed and wounded 838 00:54:33,012 --> 00:54:35,212 and we had to get over there right away. 839 00:54:35,214 --> 00:54:39,183 NARRATOR: Like Vann, Captain Scanlon was only an advisor. 840 00:54:39,185 --> 00:54:42,719 Captain Ly Tong Ba, his ARVN counterpart, 841 00:54:42,721 --> 00:54:45,456 would have to give the order to advance. 842 00:54:45,458 --> 00:54:48,725 Scanlon liked and admired him. 843 00:54:48,727 --> 00:54:51,328 SCANLON: I turned to Ba and said, 844 00:54:51,330 --> 00:54:54,064 "Hey, you know, you got to get over there right away." 845 00:54:54,066 --> 00:54:58,702 And Ba said to me, "I'm not going." 846 00:54:58,704 --> 00:55:02,005 NARRATOR: Ba's superiors within the ARVN, far from the battlefield, 847 00:55:02,007 --> 00:55:05,308 had told him to stay put. 848 00:55:05,310 --> 00:55:09,345 And John Vann, my boss, was, uh, screaming at me over the... 849 00:55:09,347 --> 00:55:12,783 over the radio to get them over there. 850 00:55:12,785 --> 00:55:17,120 NARRATOR: It took Scanlon an hour to convince Captain Ba to move. 851 00:55:17,122 --> 00:55:19,690 Another two hours were lost 852 00:55:19,692 --> 00:55:22,726 before the APCs could make their way through the paddies 853 00:55:22,728 --> 00:55:24,795 toward the trapped men. 854 00:55:26,865 --> 00:55:29,299 The firing had died down. 855 00:55:29,301 --> 00:55:31,334 SCANLON: Everything was quiet. 856 00:55:31,336 --> 00:55:34,203 You could see the open expanse of rice fields. 857 00:55:34,205 --> 00:55:37,707 And my reaction was, hey, it was all over. 858 00:55:37,709 --> 00:55:40,910 NARRATOR: The first two APCs dropped their ramps. 859 00:55:40,912 --> 00:55:43,445 Infantry squads stepped out, 860 00:55:43,447 --> 00:55:46,415 prepared to spray the tree line with automatic fire 861 00:55:46,417 --> 00:55:47,817 as they advanced. 862 00:55:47,819 --> 00:55:50,552 In the past, that had been enough 863 00:55:50,554 --> 00:55:53,889 to make the Viet Cong scurry away. 864 00:55:53,891 --> 00:55:56,058 This time was different. 865 00:55:59,931 --> 00:56:01,964 Eight of the APCs came under attack. 866 00:56:01,966 --> 00:56:05,399 Within minutes, six of their gunners had been killed, 867 00:56:05,401 --> 00:56:06,500 shot through the head. 868 00:56:08,071 --> 00:56:10,238 SCANLON: And boy, we got raked. 869 00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:12,107 So it was like a pool table. 870 00:56:12,109 --> 00:56:13,641 We were on the green 871 00:56:13,643 --> 00:56:16,010 and they were in the pockets shooting at us. 872 00:56:16,012 --> 00:56:18,780 NARRATOR: When Captain Ba managed to convince 873 00:56:18,782 --> 00:56:21,482 a few more APCs to advance, 874 00:56:21,484 --> 00:56:24,518 guerrillas leapt from their foxholes 875 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,420 and hurled hand grenades at them. 876 00:56:31,527 --> 00:56:34,195 None did any real damage, 877 00:56:34,197 --> 00:56:37,865 but the drivers were so demoralized that they halted, 878 00:56:37,867 --> 00:56:42,836 turned around, and withdrew behind the wrecked helicopters. 879 00:56:42,838 --> 00:56:44,938 From his spotter plane, 880 00:56:44,940 --> 00:56:49,076 Vann begged the ARVN to make a simultaneous assault 881 00:56:49,078 --> 00:56:52,280 on the enemy by all the remaining ground forces. 882 00:56:53,516 --> 00:56:56,417 ARVN commanders refused. 883 00:56:59,021 --> 00:57:02,022 That night, the Viet Cong melted away, 884 00:57:02,024 --> 00:57:05,225 carrying most of their dead and wounded with them. 885 00:57:07,530 --> 00:57:11,731 At least 80 South Vietnamese soldiers had been killed. 886 00:57:11,733 --> 00:57:17,171 So had three American advisors, including Captain Ken Good, 887 00:57:17,173 --> 00:57:18,172 a friend of Scanlon's. 888 00:57:22,278 --> 00:57:26,280 SCANLON: We stacked the armored personnel carriers with bodies, 889 00:57:26,282 --> 00:57:28,015 stacked them up on top till they... 890 00:57:28,017 --> 00:57:30,017 we couldn't stack any more. 891 00:57:30,019 --> 00:57:36,223 And, um, I wouldn't let the Vietnamese touch the Americans. 892 00:57:36,225 --> 00:57:39,092 So I carried the Americans out. 893 00:57:39,094 --> 00:57:41,461 And, um... 894 00:57:41,463 --> 00:57:43,797 And I was... I was exhausted. 895 00:57:43,799 --> 00:57:49,669 They told me about Ken Good getting killed. 896 00:57:49,671 --> 00:57:54,106 And Ken and I had worked so hard with our two battalions. 897 00:57:54,108 --> 00:57:59,979 And to hear that... he got killed hurt. 898 00:57:59,981 --> 00:58:01,381 (VOICE BREAKING): Great guy. 899 00:58:02,984 --> 00:58:05,284 NARRATOR: Reporters arrived from Saigon 900 00:58:05,286 --> 00:58:09,288 before all of the ARVN dead could be removed. 901 00:58:09,290 --> 00:58:13,560 They were horrified at what they saw and tried to find out 902 00:58:13,562 --> 00:58:16,396 what had really happened. 903 00:58:16,398 --> 00:58:20,900 John Paul Vann took Neil Sheehan and David Halberstam aside 904 00:58:20,902 --> 00:58:22,935 and told them. 905 00:58:22,937 --> 00:58:24,904 The Battle of Ap Bac had been 906 00:58:24,906 --> 00:58:27,673 "a miserable goddamn performance." 907 00:58:27,675 --> 00:58:29,976 "The ARVN won't listen," he said. 908 00:58:29,978 --> 00:58:32,979 "They make the same mistakes over and over again 909 00:58:32,981 --> 00:58:34,914 in the same way." 910 00:58:36,717 --> 00:58:38,351 But back in Saigon, 911 00:58:38,353 --> 00:58:42,188 General Harkins immediately declared victory. 912 00:58:42,190 --> 00:58:45,191 "The ARVN forces had an objective," he said. 913 00:58:45,193 --> 00:58:46,825 "We took that objective. 914 00:58:46,827 --> 00:58:50,363 "The VC left and their casualties were greater 915 00:58:50,365 --> 00:58:52,965 "than those of the government forces. 916 00:58:52,967 --> 00:58:54,466 What more do you want?" 917 00:58:56,104 --> 00:58:58,604 When Halberstam and Sheehan reported 918 00:58:58,606 --> 00:59:01,540 that Ap Bac had in fact been a defeat, 919 00:59:01,542 --> 00:59:05,711 the U.S. Commander in the Pacific denied it all 920 00:59:05,713 --> 00:59:08,847 and urged the reporters to "get on the team." 921 00:59:11,318 --> 00:59:13,452 SHEEHAN: Ap Bac was terribly important. 922 00:59:13,454 --> 00:59:15,754 They had shot down five helicopters, 923 00:59:15,756 --> 00:59:18,256 which they previously had been terrified of. 924 00:59:18,258 --> 00:59:22,394 They'd stopped the armored personnel carriers. 925 00:59:22,396 --> 00:59:24,530 They demonstrated to their own people 926 00:59:24,532 --> 00:59:27,399 that you could resist the Americans and win. 927 00:59:31,271 --> 00:59:33,438 LE QUAN CONG: 928 00:59:47,386 --> 00:59:51,121 NARRATOR: In Hanoi, the Battle of Ap Bac was seen 929 00:59:51,123 --> 00:59:55,860 by Party First Secretary Le Duan and his Politburo allies 930 00:59:55,862 --> 00:59:58,128 as evidence of the inherent weakness 931 00:59:58,130 --> 01:00:01,265 of the South Vietnamese regime. 932 01:00:01,267 --> 01:00:05,101 Even when faced with American advisors and weaponry, 933 01:00:05,103 --> 01:00:09,005 the Viet Cong had learned how to inflict heavy casualties 934 01:00:09,007 --> 01:00:12,609 on Saigon's forces, and get away again. 935 01:00:14,279 --> 01:00:18,147 In Saigon, President Diem claimed the ARVN were winning, 936 01:00:18,149 --> 01:00:19,549 not losing. 937 01:00:19,551 --> 01:00:22,886 Ap Bac had only been a momentary setback. 938 01:00:22,888 --> 01:00:24,788 And he resented Americans telling him 939 01:00:24,790 --> 01:00:28,492 how to fight his battles or run his country. 940 01:00:28,494 --> 01:00:33,697 The president's sister-in-law, Madame Nhu, went further. 941 01:00:33,699 --> 01:00:37,901 She denounced the Americans as "false brothers." 942 01:00:39,604 --> 01:00:42,471 "We don't have a prayer of staying in Vietnam," 943 01:00:42,473 --> 01:00:46,609 President Kennedy privately told a friend that spring. 944 01:00:46,611 --> 01:00:48,777 "These people hate us. 945 01:00:48,779 --> 01:00:52,214 "But I can't give up a piece of territory like that 946 01:00:52,216 --> 01:00:56,519 to the communists and then get the people to reelect me." 947 01:01:00,725 --> 01:01:03,458 (LOUD COMMOTION) 948 01:01:03,460 --> 01:01:04,960 ED HERLIHY: Buddhist monks and nuns are joined 949 01:01:04,962 --> 01:01:06,529 by thousands of sympathizers 950 01:01:06,531 --> 01:01:08,263 to protest the government's restrictions 951 01:01:08,265 --> 01:01:11,033 on the practice of their religion in South Vietnam. 952 01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:16,470 SHEEHAN: Diem began by alienating the rural population. 953 01:01:16,472 --> 01:01:19,206 And that started the Viet Cong. 954 01:01:19,208 --> 01:01:22,176 Now he was alienating the urban population. 955 01:01:22,178 --> 01:01:24,779 HERLIHY: Seventy percent of the population is Buddhist 956 01:01:24,781 --> 01:01:26,380 and the demonstrators clashed with the police 957 01:01:26,382 --> 01:01:30,685 during the week-long series of incidents like this. 958 01:01:30,687 --> 01:01:34,121 NARRATOR: In the months that followed the Battle of Ap Bac, 959 01:01:34,123 --> 01:01:38,860 South Vietnam plunged into civil strife that had little to do 960 01:01:38,862 --> 01:01:41,796 with the Viet Cong. 961 01:01:41,798 --> 01:01:45,933 Religion and nationalism were at its heart. 962 01:01:45,935 --> 01:01:49,736 A Catholic minority had for years dominated the government 963 01:01:49,738 --> 01:01:52,406 of an overwhelmingly Buddhist country. 964 01:01:54,143 --> 01:01:56,677 That spring in the city of Hue, 965 01:01:56,679 --> 01:01:59,713 Christian flags had been flown to celebrate 966 01:01:59,715 --> 01:02:02,916 the 25th anniversary of the ordination 967 01:02:02,918 --> 01:02:05,519 of Diem's older brother as a Catholic bishop. 968 01:02:08,857 --> 01:02:12,226 But when the Buddhists of the city flew their flags 969 01:02:12,228 --> 01:02:17,697 to celebrate the 2,527th birthday of Lord Buddha, 970 01:02:17,699 --> 01:02:20,633 police tore them down. 971 01:02:20,635 --> 01:02:23,136 Protesters took to the streets. 972 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:29,275 The Catholic deputy province chief sent security forces 973 01:02:29,277 --> 01:02:32,145 to suppress the demonstration. 974 01:02:32,147 --> 01:02:33,913 The soldiers opened fire. 975 01:02:33,915 --> 01:02:34,914 (TWO GUNSHOTS) 976 01:02:34,916 --> 01:02:38,017 Eight protesters died. 977 01:02:38,019 --> 01:02:43,990 The youngest was 12; the oldest was 20. 978 01:02:43,992 --> 01:02:47,594 The Diem regime blamed the Viet Cong. 979 01:02:49,397 --> 01:02:52,998 Monks throughout the country demanded an apology. 980 01:03:02,009 --> 01:03:04,376 They also called for an end to discrimination 981 01:03:04,378 --> 01:03:06,811 by Catholic officials. 982 01:03:06,813 --> 01:03:10,081 Many Buddhists had come to see Diem's policies 983 01:03:10,083 --> 01:03:13,152 as a direct threat to their religious beliefs. 984 01:03:16,223 --> 01:03:19,824 DUONG VAN MAI: My family was against what Diem was doing. 985 01:03:19,826 --> 01:03:22,528 My mother was convinced 986 01:03:22,530 --> 01:03:26,631 that Diem was destroying the Buddhist faith. 987 01:03:26,633 --> 01:03:30,835 She would go to the pagodas and listen to the monks' speeches. 988 01:03:30,837 --> 01:03:34,139 And she was just extremely upset. 989 01:03:35,642 --> 01:03:36,941 She was not alone. 990 01:03:36,943 --> 01:03:39,944 There was a lot of people like her. 991 01:03:39,946 --> 01:03:43,915 NARRATOR: American officials urged Diem and his brother Nhu 992 01:03:43,917 --> 01:03:47,351 to make meaningful concessions to the Buddhists, 993 01:03:47,353 --> 01:03:49,420 for the sake of maintaining unity 994 01:03:49,422 --> 01:03:51,990 in the struggle against communism. 995 01:03:51,992 --> 01:03:53,491 They refused. 996 01:03:56,196 --> 01:04:01,264 On June 10, 1963, Malcolm Browne of the Associated Press 997 01:04:01,266 --> 01:04:04,234 received an anonymous tip: 998 01:04:04,236 --> 01:04:07,504 something important was going to happen the next day 999 01:04:07,506 --> 01:04:10,941 at a major intersection in Saigon. 1000 01:04:10,943 --> 01:04:12,743 He took his camera. 1001 01:04:20,485 --> 01:04:23,921 To protest the Diem regime's repression, 1002 01:04:23,923 --> 01:04:30,160 a 73-year-old monk named Quang Duc set himself on fire. 1003 01:04:48,046 --> 01:04:53,250 As a large, hushed crowd watched him burn to death, 1004 01:04:53,252 --> 01:04:56,720 another monk repeated over and over again 1005 01:04:56,722 --> 01:04:59,756 in English and Vietnamese, 1006 01:04:59,758 --> 01:05:02,792 "A Buddhist monk becomes a martyr. 1007 01:05:02,794 --> 01:05:05,228 A Buddhist monk becomes a martyr." 1008 01:05:12,237 --> 01:05:15,204 SHEEHAN: I remember they held the ashes 1009 01:05:15,206 --> 01:05:17,807 of the monk who burned himself to death 1010 01:05:17,809 --> 01:05:20,910 where it was kept in one of the main pagodas. 1011 01:05:20,912 --> 01:05:27,083 And lines of people came to pass by, and I saw these women, 1012 01:05:27,085 --> 01:05:30,186 not rich women, ordinary Vietnamese women, 1013 01:05:30,188 --> 01:05:33,322 take off the one piece of gold they had on, their wedding ring, 1014 01:05:33,324 --> 01:05:38,360 and drop it in the bottle to contribute to the struggle. 1015 01:05:38,362 --> 01:05:42,264 And I thought to myself, "This regime is over. 1016 01:05:42,266 --> 01:05:43,198 It's the end." 1017 01:05:47,505 --> 01:05:49,838 NARRATOR: Soon other monks would become martyrs. 1018 01:05:53,311 --> 01:05:58,947 Fresh outbursts by Madame Nhu only made things worse. 1019 01:05:58,949 --> 01:06:02,451 Burning monks made her clap her hands, she said. 1020 01:06:02,453 --> 01:06:05,053 If more monks wanted to burn themselves, 1021 01:06:05,055 --> 01:06:08,256 she would provide the matches. 1022 01:06:08,258 --> 01:06:10,292 The only thing they have done, 1023 01:06:10,294 --> 01:06:16,064 they have barbecued one of their monks, 1024 01:06:16,066 --> 01:06:21,703 whom they have intoxicated, whom they have abused the confidence. 1025 01:06:21,705 --> 01:06:26,173 And even that barbecuing was done 1026 01:06:26,175 --> 01:06:28,509 not even with self-sufficient means 1027 01:06:28,511 --> 01:06:31,346 because they... they used imported gasoline. 1028 01:06:33,282 --> 01:06:35,983 DUONG VAN MAI: They thought she was arrogant, 1029 01:06:35,985 --> 01:06:37,585 she was power hungry. 1030 01:06:37,587 --> 01:06:40,955 They suspected her and her husband of being corrupt. 1031 01:06:40,957 --> 01:06:47,328 Nhu ran the secret police, which arrested and tortured people. 1032 01:06:47,330 --> 01:06:50,598 People feared the Diem regime. 1033 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,000 Perhaps more than they feared it, they really hated it. 1034 01:06:56,505 --> 01:06:59,138 NARRATOR: Students, including many Catholics, 1035 01:06:59,140 --> 01:07:01,641 rallied to the Buddhist cause. 1036 01:07:01,643 --> 01:07:04,944 So did some army officers. 1037 01:07:04,946 --> 01:07:09,383 People among the military had to ask the question, 1038 01:07:09,385 --> 01:07:12,753 "Can we continue this kind of situation like that 1039 01:07:12,755 --> 01:07:16,256 "when the whole country, country was almost burning 1040 01:07:16,258 --> 01:07:17,957 with the kind of protest from the Buddhists?" 1041 01:07:17,959 --> 01:07:18,859 You see? 1042 01:07:22,731 --> 01:07:26,399 ZIMMERMAN: I first became aware of Vietnam because of a burning monk. 1043 01:07:29,137 --> 01:07:34,107 We had watched the civil rights movement in the South 1044 01:07:34,109 --> 01:07:37,110 and it had set the standard for us 1045 01:07:37,112 --> 01:07:43,516 to stand up against injustice, allow yourself to be beaten up, 1046 01:07:43,518 --> 01:07:45,885 allow yourself to be attacked by a dog 1047 01:07:45,887 --> 01:07:48,254 or hit by a police truncheon. 1048 01:07:48,256 --> 01:07:50,290 And we had enormous respect 1049 01:07:50,292 --> 01:07:53,226 for people who were willing to go that far. 1050 01:07:57,765 --> 01:08:00,866 And then one day in 1963, 1051 01:08:00,868 --> 01:08:05,037 we saw on television a picture of a monk in Saigon. 1052 01:08:06,607 --> 01:08:08,607 This was an extraordinary act. 1053 01:08:11,211 --> 01:08:14,012 Why was a Buddhist monk burning himself 1054 01:08:14,014 --> 01:08:16,649 on the streets of Saigon? 1055 01:08:19,554 --> 01:08:22,087 NARRATOR: The protests continued. 1056 01:08:22,089 --> 01:08:27,059 Tensions between Washington and Saigon steadily worsened. 1057 01:08:27,061 --> 01:08:31,063 The more the Kennedy Administration demanded change, 1058 01:08:31,065 --> 01:08:34,899 the more Diem and his brother Nhu seemed to resist. 1059 01:08:36,770 --> 01:08:39,571 The White House announced that a new American ambassador, 1060 01:08:39,573 --> 01:08:44,843 former senator Henry Cabot Lodge, was being sent to Saigon, 1061 01:08:44,845 --> 01:08:47,378 a man eminent enough, the president hoped, 1062 01:08:47,380 --> 01:08:52,517 to make Diem listen more closely to American advice. 1063 01:08:52,519 --> 01:08:56,354 Diem professed to be unimpressed. 1064 01:08:56,356 --> 01:08:59,156 "They can send ten Lodges," he said, 1065 01:08:59,158 --> 01:09:03,127 "but I will not let myself or my country be humiliated, 1066 01:09:03,129 --> 01:09:06,998 not if they train their artillery on this palace." 1067 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:11,635 He did promise the outgoing ambassador, Frederick Nolting, 1068 01:09:11,637 --> 01:09:14,438 that he would take no further repressive steps 1069 01:09:14,440 --> 01:09:15,873 against the Buddhists. 1070 01:09:17,810 --> 01:09:23,180 Then, a few minutes after midnight on August 21, 1963, 1071 01:09:23,182 --> 01:09:26,717 with Nolting gone and Henry Cabot Lodge's arrival 1072 01:09:26,719 --> 01:09:30,388 still one day away, Diem cut the phone lines 1073 01:09:30,390 --> 01:09:33,891 of all the senior American officials in Saigon 1074 01:09:33,893 --> 01:09:37,561 and sent hundreds of his Special Forces 1075 01:09:37,563 --> 01:09:41,399 storming into Buddhist pagodas in Saigon, Hue, 1076 01:09:41,401 --> 01:09:44,700 and several other South Vietnamese cities. 1077 01:09:44,702 --> 01:09:47,637 Some 1,400 monks and nuns, 1078 01:09:47,639 --> 01:09:53,209 students and ordinary citizens were rounded up and taken away. 1079 01:09:53,211 --> 01:09:56,646 (SHOUTING) 1080 01:10:00,985 --> 01:10:05,588 Martial law was imposed, public meetings were forbidden, 1081 01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:10,026 troops were authorized to shoot anyone found on the streets 1082 01:10:10,028 --> 01:10:11,827 after 9:00. 1083 01:10:11,829 --> 01:10:15,230 PETER ROBERTS: Tanks guard a pagoda in Saigon 1084 01:10:15,232 --> 01:10:18,000 during South Vietnam's bafflingly complicated crisis 1085 01:10:18,002 --> 01:10:21,037 that has the government of President Ngo Dinh Diem, 1086 01:10:21,039 --> 01:10:24,907 students, and Buddhists, and the United States government 1087 01:10:24,909 --> 01:10:28,644 all trying to guess one another's next move. 1088 01:10:28,646 --> 01:10:32,548 NARRATOR: When college students protested in support of the monks, 1089 01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:36,251 Diem closed Vietnam's universities. 1090 01:10:36,253 --> 01:10:40,155 High school students then poured into the streets. 1091 01:10:40,157 --> 01:10:42,758 He shut down all the high schools 1092 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,093 and the grammar schools, too, 1093 01:10:44,095 --> 01:10:47,396 and arrested thousands of school children, 1094 01:10:47,398 --> 01:10:50,265 including the sons and daughters of officials 1095 01:10:50,267 --> 01:10:52,468 in his own government. 1096 01:10:52,470 --> 01:10:55,571 PHAN QUANG TUE: I participated in the demonstrations. 1097 01:10:55,573 --> 01:11:02,478 I strongly believed that that government has to be overthrown 1098 01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:04,613 because it's a dictator government. 1099 01:11:04,615 --> 01:11:06,748 We couldn't stand it anymore 1100 01:11:06,750 --> 01:11:10,552 and this is an opportunity to rise against it. 1101 01:11:10,554 --> 01:11:14,590 NARRATOR: Phan Quang Tue was a law student that summer. 1102 01:11:14,592 --> 01:11:18,627 His father was a prominent nationalist whom Diem had jailed 1103 01:11:18,629 --> 01:11:21,962 for calling for greater democracy. 1104 01:11:21,964 --> 01:11:25,466 PHAN QUANG TUE: I was and I'm still a Catholic, 1105 01:11:25,468 --> 01:11:27,835 not a very good Catholic. 1106 01:11:27,837 --> 01:11:29,770 I don't practice religiously. 1107 01:11:29,772 --> 01:11:31,539 But I'm a Catholic. 1108 01:11:33,176 --> 01:11:34,708 I was rightly arrested 1109 01:11:34,710 --> 01:11:37,878 because I did participate in demonstration. 1110 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,981 And I was interrogated 1111 01:11:40,983 --> 01:11:43,851 and briefly tortured, beaten a little bit. 1112 01:11:47,423 --> 01:11:50,224 HERLIHY: Henry Cabot Lodge took over as U.S. ambassador 1113 01:11:50,226 --> 01:11:51,825 in the midst of the turmoil. 1114 01:11:51,827 --> 01:11:53,294 And he has reported to have demanded 1115 01:11:53,296 --> 01:11:55,562 that President Diem's brother Nhu be ousted 1116 01:11:55,564 --> 01:11:57,730 or U.S. aid to Vietnam will be cut. 1117 01:12:01,170 --> 01:12:03,236 NARRATOR: In the wake of the pagoda raids, 1118 01:12:03,238 --> 01:12:05,639 a small group of South Vietnamese generals 1119 01:12:05,641 --> 01:12:09,376 contacted the CIA in Saigon. 1120 01:12:09,378 --> 01:12:12,845 Diem's brother Nhu was now largely in control 1121 01:12:12,847 --> 01:12:14,947 of the government, they said. 1122 01:12:14,949 --> 01:12:19,719 What would Washington's reaction be if they mounted a coup? 1123 01:12:19,721 --> 01:12:22,855 President Kennedy and his senior advisors 1124 01:12:22,857 --> 01:12:27,760 happened to be out of town, so Roger Hilsman, Jr., 1125 01:12:27,762 --> 01:12:31,230 assistant secretary of state for Far Eastern affairs 1126 01:12:31,232 --> 01:12:33,799 and a critic of the Diem regime, 1127 01:12:33,801 --> 01:12:37,869 took it upon himself to draft a cable with new instructions 1128 01:12:37,871 --> 01:12:40,839 for Ambassador Lodge. 1129 01:12:40,841 --> 01:12:44,810 The U.S. government could no longer tolerate a situation 1130 01:12:44,812 --> 01:12:49,047 in which power lay in Nhu's hands, it said. 1131 01:12:49,049 --> 01:12:52,084 Diem should be given a chance to rid himself of his brother. 1132 01:12:53,721 --> 01:12:57,389 If he refused, Lodge was to tell the generals, 1133 01:12:57,391 --> 01:13:00,859 "then we must face the possibility that Diem himself 1134 01:13:00,861 --> 01:13:04,795 cannot be preserved." 1135 01:13:04,797 --> 01:13:08,533 The president was vacationing at Hyannis Port, Massachusetts. 1136 01:13:08,535 --> 01:13:12,437 Undersecretary of State George Ball read part of the cable 1137 01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:15,607 to him over the phone. 1138 01:13:15,609 --> 01:13:17,942 Since the early 1950s, 1139 01:13:17,944 --> 01:13:20,478 the United States government had encouraged 1140 01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:25,883 and even orchestrated other Cold War coups in Iran, Guatemala, 1141 01:13:25,885 --> 01:13:30,488 the Congo, and elsewhere. 1142 01:13:30,490 --> 01:13:34,459 Kennedy decided to approve Hilsman's cable 1143 01:13:34,461 --> 01:13:37,628 in part because he thought his top advisors 1144 01:13:37,630 --> 01:13:39,797 had already endorsed it. 1145 01:13:39,799 --> 01:13:42,767 They had not. 1146 01:13:42,769 --> 01:13:47,972 And somehow, because of a cable that came out from Washington, 1147 01:13:47,974 --> 01:13:51,242 Lodge decided that the only solution was to get rid 1148 01:13:51,244 --> 01:13:55,012 of not just Ngo Dinh Nhu, the bad brother, 1149 01:13:55,014 --> 01:13:57,681 but also of Diem himself. 1150 01:13:57,683 --> 01:13:59,784 And that started us on this whole business 1151 01:13:59,786 --> 01:14:02,586 of promoting a coup. 1152 01:14:02,588 --> 01:14:06,123 And it was not a good idea. 1153 01:14:06,125 --> 01:14:08,692 I just had a feeling of impending disaster. 1154 01:14:10,062 --> 01:14:12,796 NARRATOR: On September 2, 1963, 1155 01:14:12,798 --> 01:14:16,466 Labor Day, Walter Cronkite of CBS News 1156 01:14:16,468 --> 01:14:19,102 interviewed President Kennedy. 1157 01:14:19,104 --> 01:14:23,173 The president used the opportunity to deliver a message 1158 01:14:23,175 --> 01:14:25,108 to President Diem. 1159 01:14:25,110 --> 01:14:28,845 Mr. President, the only hot war we've got running at the moment 1160 01:14:28,847 --> 01:14:31,548 is of course the one in Vietnam, 1161 01:14:31,550 --> 01:14:34,484 and we've got our difficulties there, quite obviously. 1162 01:14:34,486 --> 01:14:39,122 I don't think that unless a greater effort is made 1163 01:14:39,124 --> 01:14:41,124 by the government to win popular support 1164 01:14:41,126 --> 01:14:42,592 that the war can be won out there. 1165 01:14:42,594 --> 01:14:44,494 In the final analysis, it's their war. 1166 01:14:44,496 --> 01:14:48,397 Hasn't every indication from Saigon been 1167 01:14:48,399 --> 01:14:50,499 that President Diem has no intention 1168 01:14:50,501 --> 01:14:51,500 of changing his pattern? 1169 01:14:51,502 --> 01:14:52,535 If he doesn't change it, 1170 01:14:52,537 --> 01:14:54,537 of course, that's his decision. 1171 01:14:54,539 --> 01:14:56,572 He has been there ten years and, as I say, 1172 01:14:56,574 --> 01:14:57,974 he has carried this burden 1173 01:14:57,976 --> 01:14:59,375 when he has been counted out on a number of occasions. 1174 01:14:59,377 --> 01:15:00,509 Our best judgment is 1175 01:15:00,511 --> 01:15:03,046 that he can't be successful in this basis. 1176 01:15:03,048 --> 01:15:05,715 But I don't agree with those who say we should withdraw. 1177 01:15:05,717 --> 01:15:06,983 That would be a great mistake. 1178 01:15:06,985 --> 01:15:08,384 That'd be a great mistake. 1179 01:15:08,386 --> 01:15:10,320 I know people don't like Americans to be engaged 1180 01:15:10,322 --> 01:15:11,420 in this kind of an effort. 1181 01:15:11,422 --> 01:15:13,890 47 Americans have been killed. 1182 01:15:13,892 --> 01:15:15,959 We're in a very 1183 01:15:15,961 --> 01:15:18,794 desperate struggle against the communist system. 1184 01:15:18,796 --> 01:15:22,097 And I don't want Asia to pass into the control of the Chinese. 1185 01:15:22,099 --> 01:15:24,333 Do you think that this government still has time 1186 01:15:24,335 --> 01:15:26,869 to... to regain the support of the people? 1187 01:15:26,871 --> 01:15:28,904 I do, I do. 1188 01:15:28,906 --> 01:15:32,207 With changes in policy and perhaps in personnel, 1189 01:15:32,209 --> 01:15:33,876 I think it can. 1190 01:15:33,878 --> 01:15:37,445 If it doesn't make those changes, 1191 01:15:37,447 --> 01:15:39,514 I would think that the chances of winning it 1192 01:15:39,516 --> 01:15:41,049 would not be very good. 1193 01:15:42,987 --> 01:15:45,888 NARRATOR: Despite the cable, Kennedy and his advisors 1194 01:15:45,890 --> 01:15:49,224 were sharply divided about a coup. 1195 01:15:49,226 --> 01:15:54,596 Robert McNamara, Maxwell Taylor, Vice President Lyndon Johnson, 1196 01:15:54,598 --> 01:15:59,033 and the head of the CIA all cautioned against it, 1197 01:15:59,035 --> 01:16:02,504 because, while none of them especially admired Diem, 1198 01:16:02,506 --> 01:16:07,174 they did not believe there was any viable alternative. 1199 01:16:07,176 --> 01:16:10,211 GREGG: Fritz Nolting was called in. 1200 01:16:10,213 --> 01:16:12,781 And he said, "As difficult as they are to deal with, 1201 01:16:12,783 --> 01:16:17,786 "there is nobody with the guts and sangfroid in Vietnam 1202 01:16:17,788 --> 01:16:19,654 "of Diem and his brother Nhu. 1203 01:16:19,656 --> 01:16:23,124 "And if we let them go, we will be saddled 1204 01:16:23,126 --> 01:16:27,028 by a descending cycle of mediocre generals." 1205 01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:28,863 And he was absolutely correct. 1206 01:16:30,767 --> 01:16:33,634 NARRATOR: But several State Department officials believed 1207 01:16:33,636 --> 01:16:38,505 that without fresh leadership, South Vietnam could not survive. 1208 01:16:38,507 --> 01:16:41,642 The debate intensified. 1209 01:16:42,945 --> 01:16:44,978 "My God," the president said, 1210 01:16:44,980 --> 01:16:48,348 "my administration is coming apart." 1211 01:16:48,350 --> 01:16:51,752 In the end, Kennedy instructed Lodge 1212 01:16:51,754 --> 01:16:54,220 to tell the renegade generals 1213 01:16:54,222 --> 01:16:56,623 that while the United States does not wish 1214 01:16:56,625 --> 01:17:00,427 to stimulate a coup, it would not thwart one either. 1215 01:17:02,064 --> 01:17:05,165 The generals laid their plans. 1216 01:17:05,167 --> 01:17:07,568 (GUNFIRE) 1217 01:17:11,506 --> 01:17:17,143 On November 1, 1963, troops loyal to the plotters 1218 01:17:17,145 --> 01:17:19,412 seized key installations in Saigon 1219 01:17:19,414 --> 01:17:22,715 and demanded Diem and Nhu surrender. 1220 01:17:25,487 --> 01:17:27,988 REPORTER: The battle for the city went on for 18 hours 1221 01:17:27,990 --> 01:17:31,324 and most of it was centered on the presidential palace. 1222 01:17:31,326 --> 01:17:34,660 Just after 6:30 in the morning Saturday, the shooting ceased. 1223 01:17:37,099 --> 01:17:38,865 (PEOPLE CHEERING) 1224 01:17:43,837 --> 01:17:49,108 NARRATOR: Diem and Nhu escaped, took sanctuary in a church, 1225 01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:52,244 and agreed to surrender to the rebels in exchange 1226 01:17:52,246 --> 01:17:56,048 for the promise of safe passage out of the country. 1227 01:17:56,050 --> 01:17:59,551 They were picked up in an armored personnel carrier... 1228 01:17:59,553 --> 01:18:01,553 (GUNSHOT) 1229 01:18:01,555 --> 01:18:05,690 And murdered soon after they climbed inside. 1230 01:18:05,692 --> 01:18:06,925 (GUNSHOT) 1231 01:18:10,431 --> 01:18:13,965 Madame Nhu survived the coup. 1232 01:18:13,967 --> 01:18:17,036 She was on a goodwill tour in the United States. 1233 01:18:22,509 --> 01:18:25,076 PHAN QUANG TUE: The system was overthrown on November 1. 1234 01:18:25,078 --> 01:18:27,846 I was released November 4. 1235 01:18:27,848 --> 01:18:33,818 And it was the most exciting moment in the life of Saigon. 1236 01:18:35,856 --> 01:18:41,259 The excitement, you could feel it in the air. 1237 01:18:41,261 --> 01:18:45,764 DUONG VAN MAI: I was thinking that, yeah, it's a good thing. 1238 01:18:45,766 --> 01:18:49,433 Diem was making it impossible to win the war 1239 01:18:49,435 --> 01:18:53,003 because people were so against him 1240 01:18:53,005 --> 01:18:57,307 that the war would be lost if he stayed in power. 1241 01:18:59,111 --> 01:19:01,344 My father was a bit worried 1242 01:19:01,346 --> 01:19:03,180 because he didn't know who was going to replace Diem. 1243 01:19:06,185 --> 01:19:08,819 NARRATOR: Ambassador Lodge reported to Washington 1244 01:19:08,821 --> 01:19:13,423 that "every Vietnamese has a smile on his face today." 1245 01:19:13,425 --> 01:19:17,160 "The prospects are now for a shorter war," he said, 1246 01:19:17,162 --> 01:19:20,130 "provided the generals stay together. 1247 01:19:20,132 --> 01:19:22,933 "Certainly officers and soldiers 1248 01:19:22,935 --> 01:19:26,169 who can pull off an operation like this," he continued, 1249 01:19:26,171 --> 01:19:29,539 "should be able to do very well on the battlefield 1250 01:19:29,541 --> 01:19:31,874 if their hearts are in it." 1251 01:19:34,946 --> 01:19:38,115 President Kennedy was not so sure. 1252 01:19:38,117 --> 01:19:42,519 He was appalled that Diem and Nhu had been killed. 1253 01:19:42,521 --> 01:19:46,189 Three days later, he dictated his own rueful account 1254 01:19:46,191 --> 01:19:50,093 of the coup and his concerns for the future. 1255 01:19:51,830 --> 01:19:55,798 KENNEDY: Monday, November 4, 1963. 1256 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,800 Over the weekend the coup in Saigon took place. 1257 01:19:58,802 --> 01:20:01,703 It culminated three months of conversation, 1258 01:20:01,705 --> 01:20:07,009 which divided the government here and in Saigon. 1259 01:20:07,011 --> 01:20:12,148 I feel that we must bear a good deal of responsibility for it, 1260 01:20:12,150 --> 01:20:15,184 beginning with our cable of August 1261 01:20:15,186 --> 01:20:17,919 in which we suggested the coup. 1262 01:20:17,921 --> 01:20:20,756 I should not have given my consent to it 1263 01:20:20,758 --> 01:20:22,924 without a roundtable conference. 1264 01:20:25,129 --> 01:20:30,633 I was shocked by the death of Diem and Nhu. 1265 01:20:30,635 --> 01:20:34,835 The way he was killed made it particularly abhorrent. 1266 01:20:34,837 --> 01:20:37,405 The question now is whether the generals can stay together 1267 01:20:37,407 --> 01:20:41,376 and build a stable government or whether public opinion in Saigon 1268 01:20:41,378 --> 01:20:45,079 will turn on this government as repressive and undemocratic 1269 01:20:45,081 --> 01:20:46,881 in the not-too-distant future. 1270 01:20:52,055 --> 01:20:54,389 NARRATOR: Kennedy would not live to see the answer 1271 01:20:54,391 --> 01:20:57,024 to the question he had asked. 1272 01:20:57,026 --> 01:21:01,563 He was murdered in Dallas 18 days later. 1273 01:21:01,565 --> 01:21:06,568 There were now 16,000 American advisors in South Vietnam. 1274 01:21:06,570 --> 01:21:12,006 Their fate and the fate of that embattled country rested 1275 01:21:12,008 --> 01:21:17,244 with another American president, Lyndon Baines Johnson. 1276 01:21:17,246 --> 01:21:21,082 (DISTORTED ROCK MUSIC PLAYING) 1277 01:21:34,764 --> 01:21:36,897 SHEEHAN: We thought we were the exceptions to history, 1278 01:21:36,899 --> 01:21:38,465 we Americans. 1279 01:21:38,467 --> 01:21:41,202 History didn't apply to us. 1280 01:21:41,204 --> 01:21:43,436 We could never fight a bad war. 1281 01:21:43,438 --> 01:21:45,438 We could never represent the wrong cause. 1282 01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:46,439 We were Americans. 1283 01:21:47,776 --> 01:21:49,109 Well, in Vietnam it proved 1284 01:21:49,111 --> 01:21:51,477 that we were not an exception to history. 1285 01:21:52,814 --> 01:21:55,014 (DISTORTED ROCK MUSIC CONTINUES) 1286 01:22:04,092 --> 01:22:06,392 ("MEAN OLD WORLD" BY SAM COOKE PLAYING) 1287 01:22:10,966 --> 01:22:19,472 ♪ This is a mean old world to live in all by yourself ♪ 1288 01:22:24,512 --> 01:22:30,783 ♪ This is a mean old world to live in ♪ 1289 01:22:30,785 --> 01:22:33,286 ♪ All by yourself ♪ 1290 01:22:37,458 --> 01:22:44,563 ♪ This is a mean world to be alone ♪ 1291 01:22:44,565 --> 01:22:50,569 ♪ Without someone to call your own ♪ 1292 01:22:50,571 --> 01:22:56,641 ♪ This is a mean old world to try and live in ♪ 1293 01:22:56,643 --> 01:22:58,910 ♪ All by yourself ♪ 1294 01:23:03,317 --> 01:23:09,487 ♪ I wish I had someone, someone ♪ 1295 01:23:09,489 --> 01:23:11,523 ♪ Who'd love me true ♪ 1296 01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:26,170 ♪ I wish I had someone who loved me true ♪ 1297 01:23:29,108 --> 01:23:35,612 ♪ If I had someone who loved me true ♪ 1298 01:23:35,614 --> 01:23:42,253 ♪ Then I know I wouldn't be so blue ♪ 1299 01:23:42,255 --> 01:23:48,792 ♪ This is a mean old world to try and live in ♪ 1300 01:23:48,794 --> 01:23:51,094 ♪ All by yourself ♪ 1301 01:23:53,532 --> 01:24:01,805 ♪ Lord, I find myself dreaming ♪ 1302 01:24:01,807 --> 01:24:03,841 ♪ I found a love ♪ 1303 01:24:07,480 --> 01:24:14,818 ♪ Sometimes I find myself dreaming ♪ 1304 01:24:14,820 --> 01:24:17,921 ♪ I found a love ♪ 1305 01:24:20,593 --> 01:24:28,598 ♪ Sometimes I dream I've really found a love ♪ 1306 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:34,737 ♪ Someone who loved me true as the stars above ♪ 1307 01:24:34,739 --> 01:24:40,242 ♪ For this is a mean old world to try and live in ♪ 1308 01:24:40,244 --> 01:24:44,246 ♪ All by yourself. ♪ 1309 01:24:47,886 --> 01:24:52,886 - Synced and corrected by chamallow - - www.addic7ed.com - 1310 01:24:53,306 --> 01:24:54,533 ANNOUNCER: Learn more about the film 1311 01:24:54,606 --> 01:24:58,633 and find additional resources at PBS.org/vietnamwar 1312 01:24:58,673 --> 01:25:02,606 and join the conversation using #VietnamWarPBS. 1313 01:25:02,606 --> 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