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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,475 --> 00:00:17,852 By the end of 1987, 2 00:00:18,144 --> 00:00:20,563 the idea of pitting "Friday the 13th's” Jason 3 00:00:20,855 --> 00:00:23,107 against “A Nightmare on Elm Street's" Freddy Krueger 4 00:00:23,399 --> 00:00:24,859 was already quietly circulating around Hollywood. 5 00:00:25,151 --> 00:00:27,111 Due to complex legal issues 6 00:00:27,403 --> 00:00:28,883 involving the two characters, however, 7 00:00:29,113 --> 00:00:31,240 it would be another fifteen years 8 00:00:31,532 --> 00:00:35,036 before fans would see Freddy and Jason battle to the death. 9 00:00:35,328 --> 00:00:38,247 But that didn't stop executive producer Frank Mancuso, Jr. 10 00:00:38,539 --> 00:00:41,959 From finding Jason a formidable foe. 11 00:00:42,251 --> 00:00:45,713 I got kind of energized by 6 a little bit, 12 00:00:46,005 --> 00:00:46,964 and I really wanted that to tell people, 13 00:00:47,256 --> 00:00:49,926 "Okay, we got your back. 14 00:00:50,218 --> 00:00:51,427 We got Jason back so it's going to be okay." 15 00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:56,182 And 7, I sort of backed off again. 16 00:00:56,474 --> 00:00:57,850 I mean, inevitably it had to do with what else 17 00:00:58,142 --> 00:01:00,686 I was doing at the time. 18 00:01:00,978 --> 00:01:03,022 I was about halfway into the first season 19 00:01:03,314 --> 00:01:04,690 of "Friday the 13th,” the television series, 20 00:01:04,982 --> 00:01:06,901 when I got a call from Frank Mancuso 21 00:01:07,193 --> 00:01:08,819 asking me if I'd like to come down to Los Angeles 22 00:01:09,111 --> 00:01:10,738 and discuss with him 23 00:01:11,030 --> 00:01:13,533 the possibility of producing "Friday the 13th Part 7.” 24 00:01:13,824 --> 00:01:16,494 And Frank was in discussion with John Buechler 25 00:01:16,786 --> 00:01:17,912 to come and direct the film. 26 00:01:18,204 --> 00:01:21,123 Basically I said, "Why? 27 00:01:21,415 --> 00:01:29,415 Didn't they just make 6 of them? 28 00:01:31,050 --> 00:01:33,177 I mean, why would you ever want to do a “Part 7?” 29 00:01:33,469 --> 00:01:35,429 And I said this in front of Frank Mancuso, 30 00:01:35,721 --> 00:01:38,432 and my agent was in the room and both their jaws dropped. 31 00:01:38,724 --> 00:01:39,600 And I think it's because I didn't want to do it ultimately 32 00:01:39,892 --> 00:01:41,978 that I got the job 33 00:01:42,270 --> 00:01:44,551 because I did want to push it in a slightly new direction. 34 00:01:44,689 --> 00:01:47,441 John had been a makeup effects artist. 35 00:01:47,733 --> 00:01:51,320 He directed “Troll” and a couple of other movies. 36 00:01:51,612 --> 00:01:54,240 He'd come out of the Charlie Band Empire world 37 00:01:54,532 --> 00:01:56,242 of low-budget horror films. 38 00:01:56,534 --> 00:01:58,202 So he was kind of a perfect candidate. 39 00:01:58,494 --> 00:02:00,705 Because of my particular effects background, 40 00:02:00,997 --> 00:02:04,667 I think I was considered as being 41 00:02:04,959 --> 00:02:06,752 the helmer of the project 42 00:02:07,044 --> 00:02:09,839 because I could bring that to the table. 43 00:02:10,131 --> 00:02:11,611 Even when it got to “Part 7,”, I mean, 44 00:02:11,841 --> 00:02:13,081 they weren't costing any money. 45 00:02:13,134 --> 00:02:15,011 So there wasn't any real risk. 46 00:02:15,303 --> 00:02:17,722 Originally titled “Jason's Destroyer” 47 00:02:18,014 --> 00:02:20,057 the screenplay written by Daryl Haney 48 00:02:20,349 --> 00:02:22,727 would see Jason face off against a powerful 49 00:02:23,019 --> 00:02:25,187 though unlikely, new adversary. 50 00:02:25,479 --> 00:02:27,773 Well, obviously the main difference 51 00:02:28,065 --> 00:02:30,943 in this "Friday the 13th" was that there was a female foe. 52 00:02:31,235 --> 00:02:33,654 A girl that could just come in and stand up to Jason. 53 00:02:33,946 --> 00:02:36,106 The synopsis of this movie would be Carrie Meets Jason, 54 00:02:36,365 --> 00:02:38,409 and, you know, this is a girl 55 00:02:38,701 --> 00:02:41,370 who's got these incredible telekinetic powers. 56 00:02:41,662 --> 00:02:43,998 The first thing I remember about getting the script 57 00:02:44,290 --> 00:02:45,541 for "Friday the 13th" was the fake name on it, 58 00:02:45,833 --> 00:02:47,168 “Birthday Bash,” 59 00:02:47,460 --> 00:02:52,173 and my husband was a huge "Friday the 13th" fan. 60 00:02:52,465 --> 00:02:56,801 And, he goes, "This is Friday the 13th. 61 00:02:56,802 --> 00:02:57,177 This is not “Birthday Bash.” You've got to do this. 62 00:02:57,178 --> 00:02:58,804 Please do it." 63 00:02:59,096 --> 00:02:59,305 And he just begged and begged and begged for me to do it. 64 00:02:59,597 --> 00:03:01,641 Lar was wonderful, 65 00:03:01,932 --> 00:03:03,809 and I don't think anyone had really seen Lar 66 00:03:04,101 --> 00:03:05,144 in anything before that. 67 00:03:05,436 --> 00:03:06,520 But she was terrific. 68 00:03:06,812 --> 00:03:09,357 One of the visual inspirations for me 69 00:03:09,649 --> 00:03:12,485 was an old Hammer film called “Hands of the Ripper” 70 00:03:12,777 --> 00:03:17,740 where you basically had a beautiful, little blonde girl 71 00:03:18,032 --> 00:03:23,704 who was Jack the Ripper's daughter. 72 00:03:23,996 --> 00:03:26,499 That kind of iconistic image 73 00:03:26,791 --> 00:03:28,831 stuck with me and that became the template for Tina. 74 00:03:29,085 --> 00:03:30,211 I idenfified with several things of Tina 75 00:03:30,503 --> 00:03:31,671 right off the bat. 76 00:03:31,962 --> 00:03:34,006 She was very vulnerable, 77 00:03:34,298 --> 00:03:36,592 and she... a lot of people are. 78 00:03:36,884 --> 00:03:38,427 They might have an exterior, 79 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:40,159 but they have a vulnerable underside. 80 00:03:40,221 --> 00:03:45,184 So Tina evolved from what was basically a Carrie clone 81 00:03:45,476 --> 00:03:46,936 with different baggage, of course. 82 00:03:47,228 --> 00:03:49,522 "Part 7" once again opens at Crystal Lake, 83 00:03:49,814 --> 00:03:51,857 where a young Tina Shepherd 84 00:03:52,149 --> 00:03:54,694 first unleashes her powerful telekinetic abilities. 85 00:03:54,985 --> 00:03:56,487 My daughter, played by Jennifer Banko, 86 00:03:56,779 --> 00:03:59,156 had these special powers, 87 00:03:59,448 --> 00:04:04,453 and my husband, John Otrin, would beat me up constantly, 88 00:04:04,745 --> 00:04:06,205 a horrible alcoholic. 89 00:04:06,497 --> 00:04:07,998 Please, don't drink anymore! 90 00:04:08,290 --> 00:04:09,041 Don't tell me what to do! (slap) 91 00:04:09,333 --> 00:04:10,918 That's all I knew. 92 00:04:11,210 --> 00:04:13,170 It was an abusive father. 93 00:04:13,462 --> 00:04:18,634 And my little daughter was able to cause his demise. 94 00:04:18,926 --> 00:04:21,595 One day she just, she's had enough, 95 00:04:21,887 --> 00:04:25,599 and she accidentally with her telekinetic powers 96 00:04:25,891 --> 00:04:27,226 kills her dad. 97 00:04:27,518 --> 00:04:29,729 She goes, "I hate you, Daddy." 98 00:04:30,020 --> 00:04:32,898 I hate you! I wish you were dead! 99 00:04:33,190 --> 00:04:37,945 You know, I remember I did that little 100 00:04:38,237 --> 00:04:40,239 And the next thing I know, 101 00:04:40,531 --> 00:04:41,949 the pier falls right into the water, and I die. 102 00:04:42,241 --> 00:04:43,868 But it was amazing 103 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,911 because we had to do multiple shots, 104 00:04:46,203 --> 00:04:49,248 and the bridge would shake and it would collapse, 105 00:04:49,540 --> 00:04:50,541 and then it would put itself back together, 106 00:04:50,833 --> 00:04:52,168 and we'd start from one. 107 00:04:52,460 --> 00:04:54,378 After spending years in a mental hospital, 108 00:04:54,670 --> 00:04:57,840 17-year-old Tina returns to Crystal Lake 109 00:04:58,132 --> 00:05:01,051 to face her past... and to exorcise her demons. 110 00:05:01,343 --> 00:05:03,137 You didn't know what Tina was capable of, 111 00:05:03,429 --> 00:05:05,389 and she didn't know what she was capable of. 112 00:05:05,681 --> 00:05:09,268 I always had a sense that what if she got too upset 113 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,771 and hurt someone that she loved around her again. 114 00:05:12,062 --> 00:05:13,439 Because you weren't really sure what she was thinking, 115 00:05:13,731 --> 00:05:15,316 and she couldn't control it. 116 00:05:15,608 --> 00:05:16,984 Sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't happen! 117 00:05:17,276 --> 00:05:18,652 And you're lying to me! 118 00:05:18,944 --> 00:05:22,114 Her adversary, up until the end, is not Jason. 119 00:05:22,406 --> 00:05:25,159 It is her doctor who is trying to exploit her. 120 00:05:25,451 --> 00:05:27,828 Terry Kiser played the doctor. 121 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,540 Terry did “Weekend at Bernie's” where he played the corpse. 122 00:05:31,832 --> 00:05:33,793 He became huge, never said a word. 123 00:05:34,084 --> 00:05:37,713 He wants to do a research document on her. 124 00:05:38,005 --> 00:05:41,133 He takes her to the one place, Crystal Lake, 125 00:05:41,425 --> 00:05:45,262 where her father was accidently killed by her 126 00:05:45,554 --> 00:05:47,848 to make her very agitated. 127 00:05:48,140 --> 00:05:50,180 Instead of taking her anger out on kids at the prom, 128 00:05:50,434 --> 00:05:52,311 basically she takes it out on the lake, 129 00:05:52,603 --> 00:05:54,083 and she focuses her anger at the lake, 130 00:05:54,146 --> 00:05:54,730 and the lake starts to bubble, 131 00:05:55,022 --> 00:05:56,690 and it jump-starts Jason. 132 00:05:56,982 --> 00:05:58,734 Ch-ch-ch-! 133 00:05:59,026 --> 00:06:01,529 Never before had Jason been played 134 00:06:01,821 --> 00:06:02,655 by the same actor/stuntman more than once. 135 00:06:02,947 --> 00:06:04,107 All that was about to change. 136 00:06:04,365 --> 00:06:08,035 Enter Kane Hodder. 137 00:06:08,327 --> 00:06:11,956 I had worked with Kane Hodder on a couple of other films, 138 00:06:12,248 --> 00:06:14,041 one was called "Ghost Town," 139 00:06:14,333 --> 00:06:15,813 and the other one was called "Prison," 140 00:06:16,085 --> 00:06:18,003 and I thought that this might be the kind of guy 141 00:06:18,295 --> 00:06:21,173 that I would want to play Jason 142 00:06:21,465 --> 00:06:24,426 because he is a coordinator, he is a stuntman, 143 00:06:24,718 --> 00:06:26,762 and he could perform under tons of prosthetics 144 00:06:27,054 --> 00:06:28,931 and makeup. 145 00:06:29,223 --> 00:06:30,307 I had been a fan of the movies for a long time, 146 00:06:30,599 --> 00:06:31,976 a horror fan in general. 147 00:06:32,268 --> 00:06:33,811 Loving the character of Jason, 148 00:06:34,103 --> 00:06:35,604 never having any clue that I might have a chance 149 00:06:35,896 --> 00:06:37,606 to do it myself. 150 00:06:37,898 --> 00:06:41,277 I kind of went into it without any real plan. 151 00:06:41,569 --> 00:06:43,904 I wanted to just do what felt natural. 152 00:06:44,196 --> 00:06:46,282 You don't get the performance. 153 00:06:46,574 --> 00:06:48,993 You don't get the visceral one-on-one confrontation 154 00:06:49,285 --> 00:06:51,662 if you don't have an actor, 155 00:06:51,954 --> 00:06:54,164 if you don't have somebody who can perform 156 00:06:54,456 --> 00:06:57,084 through a ton of foam latex without a single word 157 00:06:57,376 --> 00:06:59,169 and make you know what he's thinking. 158 00:06:59,461 --> 00:07:02,798 And obviously Kane Hodder came through with flying colors. 159 00:07:03,090 --> 00:07:06,260 Although the film's exact timeline remains unclear, 160 00:07:06,552 --> 00:07:08,833 at least 10 years have passed since the events of "Part 6" 161 00:07:09,096 --> 00:07:11,599 when a supposedly-dead Jason 162 00:07:11,891 --> 00:07:14,810 was left to decompose at the bottom of Crystal Lake. 163 00:07:15,102 --> 00:07:19,189 Buechler's thoughts were that he's kind of a rotted corpse, 164 00:07:19,481 --> 00:07:20,816 and the makeup was real extensive. 165 00:07:21,108 --> 00:07:23,652 Every scar, every rip, every tear 166 00:07:23,944 --> 00:07:28,908 that Jason ever had was in the Jason 167 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:30,868 that we created for “Part 7.” 168 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,662 I looked at things in the past, 169 00:07:33,954 --> 00:07:36,999 and it just kind of seemed like he was too much of a zombie 170 00:07:37,291 --> 00:07:40,878 for what I would enjoy myself. 171 00:07:41,170 --> 00:07:44,048 And so I tried to just put subtle things in there 172 00:07:44,340 --> 00:07:46,425 to make it a little more human, 173 00:07:46,717 --> 00:07:48,761 like the breathing thing, and the head turn 174 00:07:49,053 --> 00:07:51,133 where I turn my head first and then the body follows. 175 00:07:51,347 --> 00:07:54,934 It just was something that felt right 176 00:07:55,225 --> 00:07:56,560 and felt kind of imposing. 177 00:07:56,852 --> 00:07:58,437 And we all thought 178 00:07:58,729 --> 00:08:00,022 he should have been Jason from the beginning. 179 00:08:00,314 --> 00:08:01,899 He should have been every single Jason, you know. 180 00:08:02,191 --> 00:08:03,951 He's the guy that ended up playing Jason most 181 00:08:04,068 --> 00:08:05,736 in the "Friday the 13th" movies 182 00:08:06,028 --> 00:08:08,572 because he did bring something to the role. 183 00:08:08,864 --> 00:08:10,304 While Tina is subjected to Dr. Crews' 184 00:08:10,366 --> 00:08:11,867 unethical experiments, 185 00:08:12,159 --> 00:08:13,994 the house next door is overrun 186 00:08:14,286 --> 00:08:16,205 by another lively group of teens, 187 00:08:16,497 --> 00:08:18,666 including the handsome yet sensitive Nick, 188 00:08:18,958 --> 00:08:20,125 ugly duckling Maddy, and the bitchy Melissa. 189 00:08:20,417 --> 00:08:24,588 Played by the late Susan Jennifer Sullivan. 190 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,300 I remember Susan Jennifer Sullivan. 191 00:08:28,592 --> 00:08:29,885 A fun little girl, not at all like her character. 192 00:08:30,177 --> 00:08:31,762 She was sweet as can be. 193 00:08:32,054 --> 00:08:33,889 In many ways, she was playing against type 194 00:08:34,181 --> 00:08:36,350 because even though she looked, she had the package 195 00:08:36,642 --> 00:08:39,645 of that kind of privileged snobby princess 196 00:08:39,937 --> 00:08:41,313 There goes the neighborhood. 197 00:08:41,605 --> 00:08:45,025 She was really humble and very nice. 198 00:08:45,317 --> 00:08:48,696 It's a matter of some curiosity that at this point in time, 199 00:08:48,988 --> 00:08:53,242 the fan base knows it as "Fri-Gay the 13th Part 7." 200 00:08:53,534 --> 00:08:56,036 We were kind of aware 201 00:08:56,328 --> 00:08:59,540 that a large number of the male members of the cast 202 00:08:59,832 --> 00:09:02,710 and nee, indeed some females, were indeed gay, 203 00:09:03,002 --> 00:09:05,963 but it never had an effect on making the show. 204 00:09:06,255 --> 00:09:10,384 I know possibly one of the reasons it got the name 205 00:09:10,676 --> 00:09:17,182 Fri-Gay the 13th, Kevin, the love-interest 206 00:09:17,474 --> 00:09:20,185 of Lar Park-Lincoln, was, I believe he was gay, 207 00:09:20,477 --> 00:09:24,106 and maybe some people thought there was no chemistry, 208 00:09:24,398 --> 00:09:28,485 and you know, she might not have been terribly attracted to him. 209 00:09:28,777 --> 00:09:30,612 There was a little bit of a rumor on the set 210 00:09:30,904 --> 00:09:34,992 about that they didn't really get along that well 211 00:09:35,284 --> 00:09:37,745 which I thought was pretty tough to have to be able to, 212 00:09:38,037 --> 00:09:40,372 you know on film, appear like they're hitting it off, 213 00:09:40,664 --> 00:09:41,957 and they're having a connection. 214 00:09:42,249 --> 00:09:45,169 It's a big pink elephant. 215 00:09:45,461 --> 00:09:48,756 I was a little bit oblivious to the fact 216 00:09:49,048 --> 00:09:50,688 that their chemistry wasn't all that good. 217 00:09:50,799 --> 00:09:52,634 I kind of remember now 218 00:09:52,926 --> 00:09:54,803 that Lar would say a couple of things to me 219 00:09:55,095 --> 00:09:57,264 that they weren't jiving, 220 00:09:57,556 --> 00:09:58,974 but they never said a bad word about each other. 221 00:09:59,266 --> 00:10:01,518 The film worked just fine, 222 00:10:01,810 --> 00:10:04,229 all the romances, all the drama. 223 00:10:04,521 --> 00:10:07,316 I'm not sure sexual orientation gets involved 224 00:10:07,608 --> 00:10:09,443 with who Jason wants to kill. 225 00:10:09,735 --> 00:10:11,361 He's an equal-opportunity slasher. 226 00:10:11,653 --> 00:10:13,655 While the Friday the 13th films 227 00:10:13,947 --> 00:10:15,407 were never greeted with enthusiasm 228 00:10:15,699 --> 00:10:17,459 by the Motion Picture Association of America, 229 00:10:17,618 --> 00:10:19,495 no one felt their wrath more harshly 230 00:10:19,787 --> 00:10:21,914 than director John Buechler. 231 00:10:22,206 --> 00:10:24,458 I've said it often, and I'll say it again, 232 00:10:24,750 --> 00:10:28,170 the ratings board raped my movie. 233 00:10:28,462 --> 00:10:32,633 The MPAA was the true horror of the film. 234 00:10:32,925 --> 00:10:35,177 They sent us back many, many times 235 00:10:35,469 --> 00:10:37,554 to re-cut the film, 236 00:10:37,846 --> 00:10:40,057 to take out, you know, pieces of gore. 237 00:10:40,349 --> 00:10:42,267 The favorite Jason kill that I've ever done 238 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,312 is the sleeping bag just for the creativity of it. 239 00:10:45,604 --> 00:10:50,567 OK you big hunk of a man, come and get me! 240 00:10:50,859 --> 00:10:53,570 Jason picks up the sleeping bag with the young woman in it. 241 00:10:53,862 --> 00:10:55,864 She's screaming, and he bashes her against a tree. 242 00:10:56,156 --> 00:10:58,951 They shot various versions of the sleeping bag. 243 00:10:59,243 --> 00:11:01,620 It had a heavy dummy in it 244 00:11:01,912 --> 00:11:04,164 and about twenty gallons of blood, 245 00:11:04,456 --> 00:11:06,250 which is not light. 246 00:11:06,542 --> 00:11:09,795 So, of course that was a big no-no with the ratings board, 247 00:11:10,087 --> 00:11:11,487 so I would cut it down, cut it down. 248 00:11:11,755 --> 00:11:13,882 And finally, in the final version, 249 00:11:14,174 --> 00:11:15,717 he picks up the sleeping bag, 250 00:11:16,009 --> 00:11:18,345 hits the tree once and throws it down. 251 00:11:18,637 --> 00:11:21,014 One of the rare cases where I thought 252 00:11:21,306 --> 00:11:24,101 maybe the edited version ended up better than the unedited. 253 00:11:24,393 --> 00:11:28,480 Every kill in the film, 254 00:11:28,772 --> 00:11:33,152 they shot footage that was very, very graphic. 255 00:11:33,443 --> 00:11:35,654 The kid who got killed at the lake 256 00:11:35,946 --> 00:11:37,865 when his girlfriend was skinny dipping, 257 00:11:38,157 --> 00:11:41,451 and there was far more detail to what happened to him. 258 00:11:41,743 --> 00:11:45,205 Jason, like a golf pro, swings the axe upward 259 00:11:45,497 --> 00:11:46,857 and slashes up through a guy's jaw, 260 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,584 splitting his face forward 261 00:11:48,876 --> 00:11:50,356 and a spout of blood goes straight up. 262 00:11:50,544 --> 00:11:53,463 In the movie, unfortunately, 263 00:11:53,755 --> 00:11:57,968 you out away before any connection is made. 264 00:11:58,260 --> 00:12:00,679 For me it's like telling a joke without the punch line. 265 00:12:00,971 --> 00:12:03,765 I think Billy Butler's kill was also kind of great 266 00:12:04,057 --> 00:12:06,768 because you didn't really see it happening, 267 00:12:07,060 --> 00:12:09,897 but you saw Tina's vision. 268 00:12:10,189 --> 00:12:11,982 William Butler and I 269 00:12:12,274 --> 00:12:14,114 actually did “Texas Chainsaw” together as well. 270 00:12:14,359 --> 00:12:16,778 A lot of our fans, you know, they bring up 271 00:12:17,070 --> 00:12:19,573 that him and I did two horror films together, 272 00:12:19,865 --> 00:12:22,367 very close, a couple of years apart. 273 00:12:22,659 --> 00:12:24,699 They seem to think that's really neat, I do as well. 274 00:12:24,912 --> 00:12:26,079 We were filming “Friday the 13th: Part 7” 275 00:12:26,371 --> 00:12:29,166 in February in Alabama. 276 00:12:29,458 --> 00:12:32,002 We had a guy with a gun with us all the time 277 00:12:32,294 --> 00:12:33,754 to shoot alligators. 278 00:12:34,046 --> 00:12:38,300 He was a rather older man and he was very slow, 279 00:12:38,592 --> 00:12:39,551 so I don't think he could have shot that alligator 280 00:12:39,843 --> 00:12:40,302 if it came out of the swamp at me, 281 00:12:40,594 --> 00:12:42,179 so that was strange. 282 00:12:42,471 --> 00:12:44,723 Oh, get real, Maddy. You're not his type. 283 00:12:45,015 --> 00:12:47,643 You need a little touch-up work first. 284 00:12:47,935 --> 00:12:49,394 Thanks! 285 00:12:49,686 --> 00:12:51,188 I remember Diana Barrows. 286 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:52,564 She played kind of the ugly duckling 287 00:12:52,856 --> 00:12:54,233 who gets the makeover. 288 00:12:54,524 --> 00:12:57,152 Need a little touch-up work, my ass. 289 00:12:57,444 --> 00:13:00,072 We actually did reshoots in Topanga 290 00:13:00,364 --> 00:13:02,866 to make the deaths kind of longer 291 00:13:03,158 --> 00:13:05,244 and that was the scenes with Maddy smoking grass 292 00:13:05,535 --> 00:13:07,537 for the first time with David, 293 00:13:07,829 --> 00:13:10,415 and more versions of my death scene. 294 00:13:10,707 --> 00:13:12,834 [scream] 295 00:13:13,126 --> 00:13:14,586 And my ex-boyfriend confessed to me years later, 296 00:13:14,878 --> 00:13:16,797 after I broke up with him, 297 00:13:17,089 --> 00:13:21,301 that he would rewind my death scene a million times and go, 298 00:13:21,593 --> 00:13:22,469 "Get her, Jason! Get her, get her." 299 00:13:22,761 --> 00:13:24,304 [scream] 300 00:13:24,596 --> 00:13:26,431 Yeah, right, happy fucking birthday. 301 00:13:26,723 --> 00:13:29,476 I certainly remember how Jason killed Ben, 302 00:13:29,768 --> 00:13:30,808 my boyfriend in the movie. 303 00:13:31,019 --> 00:13:32,688 L'll bet it's Michael 304 00:13:32,980 --> 00:13:34,773 I'm thinking Michael is shaking the van. 305 00:13:35,065 --> 00:13:37,359 It's actually Jason. I hop out of the van. 306 00:13:37,651 --> 00:13:38,360 For some reason I don't want to have sex anymore. 307 00:13:38,652 --> 00:13:40,737 I want to find Michael. 308 00:13:41,029 --> 00:13:42,489 I don't think I've ever seen a killing like that 309 00:13:42,781 --> 00:13:44,658 where he just takes, you know, his head, 310 00:13:44,950 --> 00:13:46,910 one hand on top and one under his chin, 311 00:13:47,202 --> 00:13:49,496 and just smushes it to a pulp. 312 00:13:49,788 --> 00:13:52,541 Actually in the script my death is described 313 00:13:52,833 --> 00:13:56,336 as "Ben's head gets squished like a ripe pimple." 314 00:13:56,628 --> 00:13:58,297 They had made a dummy head. 315 00:13:58,588 --> 00:14:01,383 They had filled it with cottage cheese 316 00:14:01,675 --> 00:14:03,760 and a bunch of gook. 317 00:14:04,052 --> 00:14:05,929 After my head is squished, 318 00:14:06,221 --> 00:14:08,598 Jason picks up the party horn, and she gets plugged again. 319 00:14:08,890 --> 00:14:11,393 After the horn went in, 320 00:14:11,685 --> 00:14:13,145 which I didn't realize until I'd actually seen the movie, 321 00:14:13,437 --> 00:14:15,022 there was a little toot noise. 322 00:14:15,314 --> 00:14:18,483 When we were in Alabama, 323 00:14:18,775 --> 00:14:21,095 we filmed a scene where they made a kind of prosthetic body 324 00:14:21,153 --> 00:14:23,447 under my nightgown, 325 00:14:23,739 --> 00:14:26,783 and he took a big sword and chopped me in half, 326 00:14:27,075 --> 00:14:29,453 but the fake body underneath 327 00:14:29,745 --> 00:14:31,830 had shifted, and it looked really phony so... 328 00:14:32,122 --> 00:14:32,873 but they didn't see that until we got back to LA. 329 00:14:33,165 --> 00:14:34,416 So that's why we re-shot it. 330 00:14:34,708 --> 00:14:36,918 A new death scene for Robin 331 00:14:37,210 --> 00:14:38,962 was filmed in the same Topanga Canyon house 332 00:14:39,254 --> 00:14:41,798 which previously served as the Jarvis residence 333 00:14:42,090 --> 00:14:44,343 in "Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter.” 334 00:14:44,634 --> 00:14:46,094 So he picked me up by the neck, 335 00:14:46,386 --> 00:14:48,555 and he threw me out the window, 336 00:14:48,847 --> 00:14:50,140 but the funny thing is, is they hired a stuntman 337 00:14:50,432 --> 00:14:52,642 to be my body double. 338 00:14:52,934 --> 00:14:55,729 So when you see the body going out the window, 339 00:14:56,021 --> 00:14:57,541 it's this guy with these big giant legs 340 00:14:57,773 --> 00:15:00,692 and this kind of pretty bad red wig. 341 00:15:00,984 --> 00:15:02,986 You know, so I remember people going, 342 00:15:03,278 --> 00:15:04,946 "Your legs are so muscular." 343 00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:07,115 Push comes to shove, 344 00:15:07,407 --> 00:15:10,827 we discover that not only does Tina 345 00:15:11,119 --> 00:15:13,288 have this psychokinetic ability, 346 00:15:13,580 --> 00:15:17,376 but she can also clairvoyantly see things before they happen, 347 00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:19,836 but not exactly as they happen. 348 00:15:20,128 --> 00:15:23,006 She gets an image that is kind of a surreal version of it. 349 00:15:23,298 --> 00:15:25,008 Once in a while if one of the characters 350 00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:26,635 was particularly bad, 351 00:15:26,927 --> 00:15:30,222 then I might want to come up 352 00:15:30,514 --> 00:15:31,473 with a little bit more violent way of killing 'em, 353 00:15:31,765 --> 00:15:34,559 like Dr. Crews. 354 00:15:34,851 --> 00:15:36,728 Terry's character, he was not a good doctor. 355 00:15:37,020 --> 00:15:38,730 You have deliberately turned my daughter 356 00:15:39,022 --> 00:15:40,232 into an emotional wreck. 357 00:15:40,524 --> 00:15:42,275 That's not true. 358 00:15:42,567 --> 00:15:45,946 In fact, in my death scene, when we're out in the woods, 359 00:15:46,238 --> 00:15:49,366 and I'm running and the whole thing, he sees Jason coming. 360 00:15:49,658 --> 00:15:52,244 And he literally puts my body in front of his 361 00:15:52,536 --> 00:15:56,415 so that he's safe for a second. 362 00:15:56,706 --> 00:15:58,625 That's the kind of guy he was. 363 00:15:58,917 --> 00:16:01,586 That guy's gotta die in a creative, violent way, 364 00:16:01,878 --> 00:16:04,089 more so than some of the other people. 365 00:16:04,381 --> 00:16:07,092 The psychiatrist's death was another one 366 00:16:07,384 --> 00:16:10,429 that was just gutted by the MPAA. 367 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,806 I was surprised when I went to see the movie, 368 00:16:13,098 --> 00:16:20,439 so much of the gore had been cut out. 369 00:16:20,730 --> 00:16:22,691 That was a real tool. 370 00:16:22,983 --> 00:16:24,693 I've never seen it since then. 371 00:16:24,985 --> 00:16:26,319 I hadn't seen it before, 372 00:16:26,611 --> 00:16:28,363 but it was like a weed whacker with a circular saw blade on it. 373 00:16:28,655 --> 00:16:30,907 Great weapon. 374 00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:33,119 Didn't see much of it in the movie unfortunately. 375 00:16:33,285 --> 00:16:35,620 They shot all sorts of angles, 376 00:16:35,912 --> 00:16:40,750 cutting into a prosthetic body and blood and guts and... gone. 377 00:16:41,042 --> 00:16:46,798 [screams and buzzing] 378 00:16:47,090 --> 00:16:48,925 Everybody loved watching Melissa get the axe in the head. 379 00:16:49,217 --> 00:16:50,737 She was just such a horrible character. 380 00:16:50,844 --> 00:16:52,345 She was such the quintessential bitch. 381 00:16:52,637 --> 00:16:54,598 Melissa was a bitch. 382 00:16:54,890 --> 00:16:56,725 You were already waiting for her to get it. 383 00:16:57,017 --> 00:17:00,103 Tina and myself and Melissa 384 00:17:00,395 --> 00:17:04,065 are in the cabin kind of waiting things out. 385 00:17:04,357 --> 00:17:05,484 Don't go out there. 386 00:17:05,775 --> 00:17:07,068 She says, "Fuck you. No..." 387 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:08,862 Fuck you both! 388 00:17:09,154 --> 00:17:11,948 Turns to leave and guess who's at the door? 389 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,600 Jason's sitting there with the axe, 390 00:17:13,825 --> 00:17:14,701 and he splits it right in her head. 391 00:17:14,993 --> 00:17:17,454 Whack! 392 00:17:17,746 --> 00:17:21,708 We did a reverse pull-away gag on her with a hatchet, 393 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,877 which didn't end up in the movie at all. 394 00:17:24,169 --> 00:17:28,340 I remember we watched this stuntgirl... 395 00:17:28,632 --> 00:17:30,467 fly across the room with this axe in her... 396 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:32,427 It was extraordinary. 397 00:17:32,719 --> 00:17:34,888 That was a fun day, actually, watching that scene. 398 00:17:35,180 --> 00:17:36,556 We were in a very small space when that was shot. 399 00:17:36,848 --> 00:17:38,568 And, of course, Kane takes up half the room. 400 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,352 We acted scared and ran upstairs 401 00:17:40,644 --> 00:17:42,020 because that's what you do. 402 00:17:42,312 --> 00:17:43,872 You don't run outside, you run upstairs. 403 00:17:44,022 --> 00:17:45,649 I thought from the very beginning 404 00:17:45,941 --> 00:17:48,443 it should be more of a stunt movie 405 00:17:48,735 --> 00:17:52,155 than it would be a makeup effects movie. 406 00:17:52,447 --> 00:17:53,807 And we have that great street scene 407 00:17:54,032 --> 00:17:54,866 where she goes right up to him. 408 00:17:55,158 --> 00:17:57,953 Jason? 409 00:17:58,245 --> 00:18:00,080 I loved the twigs coming around his legs 410 00:18:00,372 --> 00:18:03,208 and taking him down that way. 411 00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:06,127 I had to really take a lot more abuse than I was expecting, 412 00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:09,130 but I was glad to do it 413 00:18:09,422 --> 00:18:10,465 because I think it made the movie look much better. 414 00:18:10,757 --> 00:18:12,968 The battle continued. 415 00:18:13,260 --> 00:18:14,928 It just continued and continued, and we shot it forever. 416 00:18:15,220 --> 00:18:17,806 For me it was difficult 417 00:18:18,098 --> 00:18:20,934 because my character was in a constant state of upset. 418 00:18:21,226 --> 00:18:25,188 I would have to constantly keep myself very tense 419 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,274 to keep the tears rolling and flowing, 420 00:18:27,566 --> 00:18:35,532 and the anger, and the disbelief and the craziness. 421 00:18:35,824 --> 00:18:38,326 Going into it we relied heavily on other mechanical effects 422 00:18:38,618 --> 00:18:41,913 like the roof falling on Jason. 423 00:18:42,205 --> 00:18:44,749 As soon as that thing hit me, man, there was no acting. 424 00:18:45,041 --> 00:18:48,461 It hit me so hard and with such force 425 00:18:48,753 --> 00:18:50,422 that it just drilled me into the stairs. 426 00:18:50,714 --> 00:18:52,716 We had special effects in that movie 427 00:18:53,008 --> 00:18:54,634 that were actually kind of in competition 428 00:18:54,926 --> 00:18:56,553 With the killing. 429 00:18:56,845 --> 00:18:59,222 And we had TVs flying across the room 430 00:18:59,514 --> 00:19:03,977 and explosions and the pearl necklace breaking, 431 00:19:04,269 --> 00:19:08,481 and all this great magical stuff that didn't typically happen 432 00:19:08,773 --> 00:19:10,483 in a “Friday” film. 433 00:19:10,775 --> 00:19:12,777 And we really wanted that over-the-top aspect 434 00:19:13,069 --> 00:19:14,669 with the makeup effects, with the stunts, 435 00:19:14,904 --> 00:19:16,781 with the physical effects, everything. 436 00:19:17,073 --> 00:19:18,366 Every time I turned around, 437 00:19:18,658 --> 00:19:20,058 she was doing something else to him. 438 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,037 I loved the nails, and the gas in the basement. 439 00:19:22,329 --> 00:19:24,956 I loved that scene. That was really fun. 440 00:19:25,248 --> 00:19:28,251 And he's like fed up with all the stuff she's doing to him. 441 00:19:28,543 --> 00:19:33,673 And I can vividly remember Buechler saying, 442 00:19:33,965 --> 00:19:36,926 "Go like this, really move your face around." 443 00:19:37,218 --> 00:19:43,892 He was talking through the whole thing. 444 00:19:44,184 --> 00:19:47,729 I was always amazed and just in awe of him 445 00:19:48,021 --> 00:19:49,856 because as a stuntman he had an accident 446 00:19:50,148 --> 00:19:52,025 and was burned in a stunt 447 00:19:52,317 --> 00:19:55,820 and has scars on his chest and his neck. 448 00:19:56,112 --> 00:19:58,573 It really was a case, you know, conquering your fear 449 00:19:58,865 --> 00:20:00,265 and just moving on saying, you know, 450 00:20:00,492 --> 00:20:02,160 this is not going to stop me. 451 00:20:02,452 --> 00:20:03,745 They truly blew up an entire house in that movie. 452 00:20:04,037 --> 00:20:06,164 It was wild. 453 00:20:06,456 --> 00:20:08,375 You know, putting pryro in in special places 454 00:20:08,667 --> 00:20:10,835 so it would go boom, boom, boom, boom. 455 00:20:11,127 --> 00:20:13,922 And the grips, everybody smoking cigarettes, 456 00:20:14,214 --> 00:20:18,843 and up in the eaves inside the house 457 00:20:19,135 --> 00:20:21,221 are these little ropes hanging everywhere. 458 00:20:21,513 --> 00:20:23,973 And I went, "What are those? 459 00:20:24,265 --> 00:20:26,059 And they went, "Oh, we're going to blow up the house." 460 00:20:26,351 --> 00:20:29,688 And I went, "You mean it's all set to blow up, 461 00:20:29,979 --> 00:20:32,565 and everybody's smoking!?" 462 00:20:32,857 --> 00:20:34,417 Eventually the word came down that, yes, 463 00:20:34,693 --> 00:20:36,528 we were ready to go. 464 00:20:36,820 --> 00:20:37,737 The countdown started happening. We tensed up. 465 00:20:38,029 --> 00:20:40,365 This was going to be great. 466 00:20:40,657 --> 00:20:43,243 And as the button got pushed, 467 00:20:43,535 --> 00:20:48,456 the whole building went up within a split second. 468 00:20:48,748 --> 00:20:51,543 I was there when they filmed the cabin exploding, 469 00:20:51,835 --> 00:20:54,421 and I don't know, 470 00:20:54,713 --> 00:20:56,172 something must have gone wrong with something 471 00:20:56,464 --> 00:20:57,924 because you could actually literally feel the heat. 472 00:20:58,216 --> 00:21:00,260 There was not a piece of wood 473 00:21:00,552 --> 00:21:02,387 larger than a matchstick available 474 00:21:02,679 --> 00:21:04,305 to be seen the following day. 475 00:21:04,597 --> 00:21:07,058 It was Apocalypse Now. It was just too big. 476 00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:09,102 Lenses were smashed on the lmo's. 477 00:21:09,394 --> 00:21:11,354 You know, filters were melted. 478 00:21:11,646 --> 00:21:13,940 And eventually, I think the longest piece of film 479 00:21:14,232 --> 00:21:17,485 of the explosion was about 20 frames, less than a second. 480 00:21:17,777 --> 00:21:19,821 And eventually we created at least something 481 00:21:20,113 --> 00:21:21,906 that you could say, 482 00:21:22,198 --> 00:21:23,558 "Okay, there's an explosion there." 483 00:21:23,616 --> 00:21:25,201 But on the day, we were heartbroken. 484 00:21:25,493 --> 00:21:27,120 From the earliest days of production, 485 00:21:27,412 --> 00:21:29,789 John Buechler found himself at odds 486 00:21:30,081 --> 00:21:33,293 with a key member of Frank Mancuso, Jr.'s executive team. 487 00:21:33,585 --> 00:21:35,345 When you're working as a director on a movie, 488 00:21:35,503 --> 00:21:37,380 you have a vision. 489 00:21:37,672 --> 00:21:40,383 The producer's interested in the money, 490 00:21:40,675 --> 00:21:43,011 and the director is interested in the product. 491 00:21:43,303 --> 00:21:47,140 In this particular case... 492 00:21:47,432 --> 00:21:50,560 I kind of went head-to-head with my associate producer. 493 00:21:50,852 --> 00:21:53,146 Barbara Sachs worked for Frank Mancuso 494 00:21:53,438 --> 00:21:54,998 across a broad range of his development. 495 00:21:55,231 --> 00:21:57,150 She was responsible for developing 496 00:21:57,442 --> 00:21:59,944 “He Said, She Said,” “Permanent Record 497 00:22:00,236 --> 00:22:02,614 so she was a very big part of Frank Mancuso's company. 498 00:22:02,906 --> 00:22:04,991 There was occasional tension between her and John 499 00:22:05,283 --> 00:22:07,202 because she was probably giving her input, 500 00:22:07,494 --> 00:22:09,894 and John had his own vision, and John knew what he was doing. 501 00:22:10,121 --> 00:22:13,875 This was not a new genre for him. 502 00:22:14,167 --> 00:22:17,003 The "Friday the 13th" series of films 503 00:22:17,295 --> 00:22:19,380 was a little bit outside her wheelhouse. 504 00:22:19,672 --> 00:22:21,800 This was not in her sort of 505 00:22:22,091 --> 00:22:24,135 intellectual and emotional direction. 506 00:22:24,427 --> 00:22:26,596 She didn't like horror. 507 00:22:26,888 --> 00:22:29,182 If you're going to be an associate producer on a film, 508 00:22:29,474 --> 00:22:31,476 or even a producer, you gotta love it. 509 00:22:31,768 --> 00:22:33,248 One of the things I really lobbied for 510 00:22:33,436 --> 00:22:37,482 was to show Jason mask off 511 00:22:37,774 --> 00:22:40,860 for the better part of the last reel of the movie. 512 00:22:41,152 --> 00:22:43,947 She hated the look of Jason. 513 00:22:44,239 --> 00:22:46,491 She said, "He looks like a frog. He's so unbelievable." 514 00:22:46,783 --> 00:22:48,910 She vetoed the idea for me to do it at all. 515 00:22:49,202 --> 00:22:52,163 And I was busy working, 516 00:22:52,455 --> 00:22:54,791 and I couldn't really go over her head 517 00:22:55,083 --> 00:22:56,443 and talk to Frank and get approval. 518 00:22:56,501 --> 00:22:58,920 So I did it anyway. 519 00:22:59,212 --> 00:23:01,923 And ultimately Frank Mancuso loved popping Jason's mask off 520 00:23:02,215 --> 00:23:04,384 the way I did it. 521 00:23:04,676 --> 00:23:08,179 She always just seemed to be somebody in the way. 522 00:23:08,471 --> 00:23:12,183 There was, I believe, a conflict about the very ending, 523 00:23:12,475 --> 00:23:13,977 about how the father would look. 524 00:23:14,269 --> 00:23:17,856 The ghost of Tina's father was to be realized 525 00:23:18,147 --> 00:23:21,317 as a fully animatronic thing. 526 00:23:21,609 --> 00:23:25,154 I'm decaying after 7 to 10 years of being in that water. 527 00:23:25,446 --> 00:23:28,575 I look as ugly as Jason looks. 528 00:23:28,867 --> 00:23:33,705 And we did this makeup on John, and we did the animatronic, 529 00:23:33,997 --> 00:23:36,457 and, of course, Barbara vetoed that 530 00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:38,751 because I'd gone against her will. 531 00:23:39,043 --> 00:23:40,712 We actually put the makeup on, 532 00:23:41,004 --> 00:23:43,131 and we started shooting some of it. 533 00:23:43,423 --> 00:23:46,467 Actually I came out at the end with that outfit on 534 00:23:46,759 --> 00:23:50,388 and brought Jason down, and it was never used. 535 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,682 And so what you see at the end of the film 536 00:23:52,974 --> 00:23:54,809 is John Otrin coming up with a dirty face 537 00:23:55,101 --> 00:23:57,228 and pulling Jason down. 538 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,856 I think when people view the film they say, 539 00:24:00,148 --> 00:24:02,108 "That's kind of lame." 540 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,362 I felt bad really for John because he had done 541 00:24:06,654 --> 00:24:08,656 so many really great things in that movie, 542 00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:11,492 and it was never... It was never seen 543 00:24:11,784 --> 00:24:14,913 and some of those scenes were lost and deleted. 544 00:24:15,204 --> 00:24:17,644 For years, fans have demanded a home video release of the film 545 00:24:17,874 --> 00:24:19,292 in its fully-restored form. 546 00:24:19,584 --> 00:24:23,004 Unfortunately, a truly uncut version 547 00:24:23,296 --> 00:24:25,924 of "Friday the 13th Part 7” will never be seen. 548 00:24:26,215 --> 00:24:28,551 It would be terrific to be able to go back 549 00:24:28,843 --> 00:24:30,970 to "Friday the 13th Part 7” 550 00:24:31,262 --> 00:24:33,056 and put it back together in a form 551 00:24:33,348 --> 00:24:36,017 that had more, sort of, creative coherence. 552 00:24:36,309 --> 00:24:40,313 Unfortunately that footage has been discarded. 553 00:24:40,605 --> 00:24:43,232 Paramount destroyed all the outtakes of the film 554 00:24:43,524 --> 00:24:47,028 which it's... it's pretty unfortunate. 555 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,572 Without the elements, without the outtakes, 556 00:24:49,864 --> 00:24:52,909 there's really no hope of ever making a director's cut 557 00:24:53,201 --> 00:24:55,995 or alternate version of those scenes 558 00:24:56,287 --> 00:24:57,997 because the footage just doesn't exist. 559 00:24:58,289 --> 00:25:02,126 Like so much of, you know, great American cinema, 560 00:25:02,418 --> 00:25:04,087 it's now lost to the world. 561 00:25:04,379 --> 00:25:05,296 Not that I'm saying "Friday the 13th Part 7” 562 00:25:05,588 --> 00:25:06,923 was great American cinema, 563 00:25:07,215 --> 00:25:09,509 but great American cinema of a certain kind. 564 00:25:09,801 --> 00:25:12,303 Though it wasn't per se a studio film, 565 00:25:12,595 --> 00:25:15,348 it did have many of the trappings of a studio film. 566 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,433 And it made me ultimately very dissatisfied 567 00:25:17,725 --> 00:25:20,561 with too many cooks. 568 00:25:20,853 --> 00:25:23,314 Sometimes directors can get kind of snippy. 569 00:25:23,606 --> 00:25:25,806 John never did that, and he had a lot of external forces 570 00:25:25,984 --> 00:25:28,361 that could have certainly made him go crazy. 571 00:25:28,653 --> 00:25:30,493 We were fighting all kinds of different battles 572 00:25:30,780 --> 00:25:32,657 within producing the film. 573 00:25:32,949 --> 00:25:35,618 And um, he was always very kind to me, 574 00:25:35,910 --> 00:25:37,495 and I'd go home at night and say, 575 00:25:37,787 --> 00:25:38,621 I'm gonna look like an idiot in this franchise, 576 00:25:38,913 --> 00:25:41,749 and my career is going to be over. 577 00:25:42,041 --> 00:25:44,585 But I trusted him, I believed in him and it worked. 578 00:25:44,877 --> 00:25:48,673 Jason... ls Back. 579 00:25:48,965 --> 00:25:52,552 But this time, someone is waiting. 580 00:25:52,844 --> 00:25:56,681 "Friday the 13th: Part VII The New Blood" 581 00:25:56,973 --> 00:25:58,683 Little more than six months after the start 582 00:25:58,975 --> 00:26:00,601 of pre-production, 583 00:26:00,893 --> 00:26:01,936 "Friday the 13th Part 7: The New Blood” 584 00:26:02,228 --> 00:26:05,898 debuted on May 13, 1988. 585 00:26:06,190 --> 00:26:09,318 While its final take of $19.2 million 586 00:26:09,610 --> 00:26:11,654 was respectable, it paled in comparison 587 00:26:11,946 --> 00:26:13,906 to the late-summer release 588 00:26:14,198 --> 00:26:16,367 of "A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master,” 589 00:26:16,659 --> 00:26:21,039 which took in a then record setting $49.1 million. 590 00:26:21,330 --> 00:26:23,374 Although Jason may have been temporarily unseated 591 00:26:23,666 --> 00:26:25,126 by the competition, 592 00:26:25,418 --> 00:26:28,671 he was still a long way from being dead. 593 00:26:28,963 --> 00:26:32,175 It opened at the Chinese Graumann Theater in Hollywood. 594 00:26:32,467 --> 00:26:34,385 How awesome is that? 595 00:26:34,677 --> 00:26:37,597 So here we are, we're in the movie theater, 596 00:26:37,889 --> 00:26:40,369 the 8 o'clock show or something, and we're counting the deaths. 597 00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:42,018 This is a sold-out crowd. 598 00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:43,811 Every time Jason killed somebody, 599 00:26:44,103 --> 00:26:45,303 the whole audience would go... 600 00:26:45,354 --> 00:26:46,355 1! 601 00:26:46,647 --> 00:26:47,857 2! 602 00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:50,401 3! 603 00:26:50,693 --> 00:26:52,613 Every time somebody got killed, they'd count 'em. 604 00:26:52,695 --> 00:26:54,781 It's just amazing, the movie magic, 605 00:26:55,073 --> 00:26:57,992 and the way things really come to life. 606 00:26:58,284 --> 00:27:01,496 I was scared, I screamed, I jumped, I moved, you know, 607 00:27:01,788 --> 00:27:04,373 I was hiding, and I knew what was coming, 608 00:27:04,665 --> 00:27:06,584 I'd read the script, I'd seen a lot of the scenes being done, 609 00:27:06,876 --> 00:27:08,503 but when they actually put it together, you know, 610 00:27:08,795 --> 00:27:10,505 it's real! 611 00:27:10,797 --> 00:27:13,091 I was very happy to see in the "Hollywood Reporter" 612 00:27:13,382 --> 00:27:15,593 that "Friday the 13th Part 7” 613 00:27:15,885 --> 00:27:19,013 was the highest grossing movie at the box office in May 1988 614 00:27:19,305 --> 00:27:20,848 when it was released. 615 00:27:21,140 --> 00:27:23,851 That says something about the enduring legacy 616 00:27:24,143 --> 00:27:26,062 of "Friday the 13th 617 00:27:26,354 --> 00:27:27,855 Although Tina would not be seen again, 618 00:27:28,147 --> 00:27:30,399 fans have long envisioned a sequel 619 00:27:30,691 --> 00:27:33,194 that would bring together the surviving characters 620 00:27:33,486 --> 00:27:36,739 of "Friday the 13th" for the ultimate showdown with Jason. 621 00:27:37,031 --> 00:27:39,450 Well, I'm waiting for "Friday the 13th Part 13” 622 00:27:39,742 --> 00:27:41,911 to come out and it would be terrific 623 00:27:42,203 --> 00:27:44,622 if the surviving girls get together 624 00:27:44,914 --> 00:27:46,499 and that would be a script. 625 00:27:46,791 --> 00:27:49,168 Hell, yeah. I would definitely do it. 626 00:27:49,460 --> 00:27:51,020 It sounds like it would be a great time. 627 00:27:51,129 --> 00:27:53,798 Charlie's Angels vs. Jason, Jason's Devils basically. 628 00:27:54,090 --> 00:27:56,425 We'd get all buff, We'd get all strong 629 00:27:56,717 --> 00:27:58,427 and then maybe I could run as fast and jump as high 630 00:27:58,719 --> 00:28:00,638 as I did before. 631 00:28:00,930 --> 00:28:02,610 He's always only fought someone one-on-one. 632 00:28:02,807 --> 00:28:05,184 He's never had a group fighting him at the same time. 633 00:28:05,476 --> 00:28:07,562 I would, I mean I haven't forgotten how to do it, 634 00:28:07,854 --> 00:28:10,565 it's like a bike, I don't think I could ever forget. 635 00:28:10,857 --> 00:28:12,984 We'd just have probably really great lives 636 00:28:13,276 --> 00:28:14,777 with this terrible memory. 637 00:28:15,069 --> 00:28:16,529 I would probably do another film 638 00:28:16,821 --> 00:28:19,073 that would reprise that role, you know, 639 00:28:19,365 --> 00:28:20,199 the years later, as long as it was done in, you know, 640 00:28:20,491 --> 00:28:22,160 a good light. 641 00:28:22,451 --> 00:28:23,931 I think what Tina would be doing today 642 00:28:24,078 --> 00:28:27,373 is trying to help others 643 00:28:27,665 --> 00:28:30,126 but still dealing with her own demons and being pulled back, 644 00:28:30,418 --> 00:28:32,920 I think she would be pulled back to the lake again. 645 00:28:33,212 --> 00:28:36,507 Tina being fully realized as who she is 646 00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:38,634 made the movie work, 647 00:28:38,926 --> 00:28:40,928 and the fact that we could pay it off 648 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:43,347 with the special effects and so forth 649 00:28:43,639 --> 00:28:48,639 really contributed to the success of the movie. 650 00:29:03,910 --> 00:29:06,370 Even if Jason's machete blade 651 00:29:06,662 --> 00:29:07,872 had dulled slightly at the box office, 652 00:29:08,164 --> 00:29:10,625 all seven films in the series 653 00:29:10,917 --> 00:29:12,877 remained highly-profitable ventures for Paramount. 654 00:29:13,169 --> 00:29:15,504 But with its fan base growing up 655 00:29:15,796 --> 00:29:17,590 and dream demon Freddy Krueger 656 00:29:17,882 --> 00:29:20,426 now taking on pop-icon status, 657 00:29:20,718 --> 00:29:23,512 it was time for Jason to venture out of the woods... 658 00:29:23,804 --> 00:29:26,933 and step into a much larger world. 659 00:29:27,225 --> 00:29:29,018 There were seven before, obviously, 660 00:29:29,310 --> 00:29:31,437 and they all took place in Crystal Lake, right? 661 00:29:31,729 --> 00:29:33,397 And so the first question I asked them, 662 00:29:33,689 --> 00:29:35,942 was, "Does it have to be in Crystal Lake? 663 00:29:36,234 --> 00:29:38,611 Can I take Jason out of Crystal Lake?" 664 00:29:38,903 --> 00:29:40,279 Rob Hedden is an infectious personality, first of all, 665 00:29:40,571 --> 00:29:41,822 so he's a very upbeat guy. 666 00:29:42,114 --> 00:29:44,784 He has tons and tons of energy. 667 00:29:45,076 --> 00:29:47,536 Frank Mancuso Jr. Who was producing it, 668 00:29:47,828 --> 00:29:49,413 I mean he was the one, he just said, 669 00:29:49,705 --> 00:29:51,249 "Well, if it's a big city, it's got to be New York." 670 00:29:51,540 --> 00:29:52,792 I said, "That works for me. That's a great idea." 671 00:29:53,084 --> 00:29:55,419 So that's how the whole 672 00:29:55,711 --> 00:29:56,879 "Jason Takes Manhattan" thing came about. 673 00:29:57,171 --> 00:29:58,891 But there was fun that we hadn't seen before 674 00:29:58,965 --> 00:30:00,758 about the notion of a Jason in a big city. 675 00:30:01,050 --> 00:30:03,052 The notion of what would happen 676 00:30:03,344 --> 00:30:05,721 if Jason got into the subway, you know all those things. 677 00:30:06,013 --> 00:30:07,974 My first draft of the script had a big chase scene 678 00:30:08,266 --> 00:30:10,518 across the Brooklyn Bridge. 679 00:30:10,810 --> 00:30:12,645 There was a lot more stuff that we just couldn't afford to do. 680 00:30:12,937 --> 00:30:15,898 He certainly had ambitions 681 00:30:16,190 --> 00:30:19,193 that we didn't have the budget to allow for. 682 00:30:19,485 --> 00:30:21,612 Production reality set in and it was like, okay, 683 00:30:21,904 --> 00:30:25,658 instead of, you know, 75% of the movie 684 00:30:25,950 --> 00:30:28,577 taking place in New York, we'll do 50%. 685 00:30:28,869 --> 00:30:30,496 And then it was, well, we can't really do 50 either. 686 00:30:30,788 --> 00:30:32,206 So then the concept, well, 687 00:30:32,498 --> 00:30:34,018 let's do some mayhem on the cruise ship 688 00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:35,626 while they're getting to New York, 689 00:30:35,918 --> 00:30:37,003 and we'll make, you know, maybe the last third of the movie 690 00:30:37,295 --> 00:30:39,171 will take place in New York. 691 00:30:39,463 --> 00:30:41,299 Among the sea of new faces, 692 00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:43,550 at least one familiar passenger was back on board. 693 00:30:43,801 --> 00:30:47,054 Kane Hodder's enthusiastic and always menacing 694 00:30:47,346 --> 00:30:49,307 portrayal of Jason Voorhees 695 00:30:49,598 --> 00:30:52,101 ensured that the graduating class of Crystal Lake High 696 00:30:52,393 --> 00:30:54,895 would be in for the voyage of their lives. 697 00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:58,274 So for me it was like I looked at 7. How did he die in 7? 698 00:30:58,566 --> 00:31:00,234 Okay, that's where we're going to find him. He's underwater. 699 00:31:00,526 --> 00:31:02,206 He's going to get shocked with electricity. 700 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,030 In the film's opening sequence, 701 00:31:04,322 --> 00:31:07,033 an amorous couple anchored at Crystal Lake 702 00:31:07,325 --> 00:31:10,202 inadvertently awakens Jason from his watery grave. 703 00:31:10,494 --> 00:31:12,496 Perhaps in retrospect 704 00:31:12,788 --> 00:31:14,508 we probably shouldn't have anchored our boat 705 00:31:14,749 --> 00:31:17,543 in Camp Crystal Lake 706 00:31:17,835 --> 00:31:20,463 where there was a corpse of a murderer down under the water 707 00:31:20,755 --> 00:31:22,673 waiting to be reanimated. 708 00:31:22,965 --> 00:31:25,634 He really doesn't even need the electricity. 709 00:31:25,926 --> 00:31:27,846 He could come back just because he feels like it. 710 00:31:27,970 --> 00:31:30,681 Having Kane Hodder on board was really helpful 711 00:31:30,973 --> 00:31:35,019 because he had done PART 7, and he knew what had been done. 712 00:31:35,311 --> 00:31:38,022 And also Marty Becker was our special effects guy. 713 00:31:38,314 --> 00:31:41,150 And between them and our makeup people, 714 00:31:41,442 --> 00:31:43,242 we decided let's tweak Jason a little bit too. 715 00:31:43,486 --> 00:31:45,571 People ask me, 716 00:31:45,863 --> 00:31:49,158 "Why does the makeup change so much from movie to movie? 717 00:31:49,450 --> 00:31:50,701 And the hockey mask changes and everything else." 718 00:31:50,993 --> 00:31:53,037 You know, basically it's because 719 00:31:53,329 --> 00:31:55,790 it's a different makeup effects person who designs it, 720 00:31:56,082 --> 00:31:59,710 and they don't necessarily stay true 721 00:32:00,002 --> 00:32:01,212 to the previous movie. 722 00:32:01,504 --> 00:32:02,963 Plus he starts out underwater 723 00:32:03,255 --> 00:32:05,299 at the very beginning of the movie, 724 00:32:05,591 --> 00:32:07,009 and so he's pretty much just gooey the whole movie. 725 00:32:07,301 --> 00:32:10,012 They put slime on me every single shot 726 00:32:10,304 --> 00:32:11,639 so I was wet the entire movie. 727 00:32:11,931 --> 00:32:14,308 Goo. Goo is great. 728 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,645 The moment where I get almost shot by the spear gun 729 00:32:17,937 --> 00:32:19,146 was the scariest moment of the whole shoot for me, 730 00:32:19,438 --> 00:32:20,940 out of the whole week, 731 00:32:21,232 --> 00:32:24,318 because they did have to aim the actual spear gun 732 00:32:24,610 --> 00:32:26,362 really close to my head. 733 00:32:26,654 --> 00:32:29,740 And they were like, "Don't move and get it right 734 00:32:30,032 --> 00:32:31,700 because we're going to damage the wall behind you." 735 00:32:31,992 --> 00:32:33,672 I didn't think there was really any danger, 736 00:32:33,786 --> 00:32:36,067 but it was definitely scary because it did whiz by my ear, 737 00:32:36,330 --> 00:32:39,625 and it was very loud when it shot into the wall. 738 00:32:39,917 --> 00:32:43,337 It also probably wasn't really smart to hide on the boat 739 00:32:43,629 --> 00:32:44,713 where the murderer is coming to get you 740 00:32:45,005 --> 00:32:46,715 instead of jumping into the water 741 00:32:47,007 --> 00:32:50,052 and at least trying to swim for your life. 742 00:32:50,344 --> 00:32:53,013 We were doing my death scene, and I saw the fake torso, 743 00:32:53,305 --> 00:32:56,350 and it originally had really, really large boobs 744 00:32:56,642 --> 00:32:58,644 on the fake torso which I was super excited about. 745 00:32:58,936 --> 00:32:59,895 And then they were like, "We might have to rethink this." 746 00:33:00,187 --> 00:33:01,856 I know they made some adjustments, 747 00:33:02,148 --> 00:33:03,691 and she had really nice nipples, I remember that. 748 00:33:03,983 --> 00:33:06,485 Kane Hodder was on the set one day, 749 00:33:06,777 --> 00:33:11,157 and he came out with a strap-on in full garb you know, 750 00:33:11,449 --> 00:33:15,202 Sounds like something I should check out. 751 00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:17,580 Once again, fans have been quick to point out 752 00:33:17,872 --> 00:33:19,373 inconsistencies in the timeline 753 00:33:19,665 --> 00:33:22,877 and the logic of Part 8. 754 00:33:23,169 --> 00:33:26,839 As far as the logic on how that ship 755 00:33:27,131 --> 00:33:28,924 got out of Crystal Lake into the Atlantic, 756 00:33:29,216 --> 00:33:31,385 I have no idea. 757 00:33:31,677 --> 00:33:34,221 It's a tough one because it had to be Crystal Lake, 758 00:33:34,513 --> 00:33:36,182 and we had to get him on a cruise ship to New York. 759 00:33:36,474 --> 00:33:38,726 And so we tried to do a little smoke and mirrors 760 00:33:39,018 --> 00:33:40,269 and it maybe didn't quite work. 761 00:33:40,561 --> 00:33:42,480 I have a theory. 762 00:33:42,771 --> 00:33:44,523 I think we were all so frickin' happy 763 00:33:44,815 --> 00:33:47,067 to have a paying gig and for most of us, 764 00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:49,195 it was our maiden major movie and it was like, 765 00:33:49,487 --> 00:33:50,779 "This damn boat could come from the Sahara Desert 766 00:33:51,071 --> 00:33:52,490 and get into the Atlantic." 767 00:33:52,781 --> 00:33:54,366 I'm not going to challenge the concept. 768 00:33:54,658 --> 00:33:56,658 And we ultimately just said, "Let's just forget it, 769 00:33:56,911 --> 00:33:58,287 you know. People can... people may get mad at us for that, 770 00:33:58,579 --> 00:34:00,623 but let's go for it." 771 00:34:00,915 --> 00:34:01,540 Our graduating class I'd say it's easily, what, 772 00:34:01,832 --> 00:34:03,417 about 100 kids on that boat, 773 00:34:03,709 --> 00:34:05,252 and it's like only 5 of us get killed 774 00:34:05,544 --> 00:34:06,879 but yet everybody's wiped out. 775 00:34:07,171 --> 00:34:09,011 At the very beginning there were so many extras 776 00:34:09,131 --> 00:34:10,591 and then as the shooting went on there was less. 777 00:34:10,883 --> 00:34:12,323 And that was probably a budget issue. 778 00:34:12,510 --> 00:34:15,137 They might've got a little scared and jumped overboard. 779 00:34:15,429 --> 00:34:17,056 And Julius is like, "Hold it down." 780 00:34:17,348 --> 00:34:19,558 School is out, McCullough. 781 00:34:19,850 --> 00:34:20,726 I think that's the assumption, right, 782 00:34:21,018 --> 00:34:23,896 is that Jason basically, 783 00:34:24,188 --> 00:34:27,066 behind the scenes, was eliminating everyone. 784 00:34:27,358 --> 00:34:29,818 A number of young hopefuls were initially considered 785 00:34:30,110 --> 00:34:33,072 for the role of the film's smart yet aquaphobic lead. 786 00:34:33,364 --> 00:34:35,908 Rennie had a special connection to Jason 787 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,036 because her evil uncle 788 00:34:39,328 --> 00:34:40,746 was trying to teach her how to swim 789 00:34:41,038 --> 00:34:42,373 when she was a little girl. 790 00:34:42,665 --> 00:34:44,667 So I unfortunately, 791 00:34:44,959 --> 00:34:46,627 because of an Old School understanding, 792 00:34:46,919 --> 00:34:49,129 I tossed her into the water 793 00:34:49,421 --> 00:34:51,632 which was a not very nice thing to do for an uncle. 794 00:34:51,924 --> 00:34:55,302 And she saw Jason under the water. 795 00:34:55,594 --> 00:34:57,805 My character is terrified of the water 796 00:34:58,097 --> 00:34:59,765 but she decides to go on the boat anyway. 797 00:35:00,057 --> 00:35:03,519 One by one the classmates are killed off or missing. 798 00:35:03,811 --> 00:35:05,854 There's nowhere to go. 799 00:35:06,146 --> 00:35:08,524 They can't escape from him and that claustrophobia 800 00:35:08,816 --> 00:35:10,696 gave me a lot of ideas in how he could trap them 801 00:35:10,818 --> 00:35:12,695 and kill them. 802 00:35:12,987 --> 00:35:15,948 In 7 and 8 I was sort of absent. 803 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:18,284 I was there in spirit, 804 00:35:18,576 --> 00:35:21,912 but I wasn't there actually scoring it. 805 00:35:22,204 --> 00:35:25,874 Fred Mollin, the composer to the TV series, 806 00:35:26,166 --> 00:35:29,628 took over writing the music to those two films, 807 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,548 although they dropped in a few pieces of mine 808 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,424 from previous films and, of course, 809 00:35:33,716 --> 00:35:34,967 k-k-k... 810 00:35:35,259 --> 00:35:39,888 TCH-T CH-T CH-JA-JA-JASON 811 00:35:40,180 --> 00:35:42,182 As production of "Friday the 13th Part 8: 812 00:35:42,474 --> 00:35:44,435 set sail in Vancouver, British Columbia 813 00:35:44,727 --> 00:35:46,979 under the code titles "Ashes to Ashes," 814 00:35:47,271 --> 00:35:49,982 and "Burial at Sea," 815 00:35:50,274 --> 00:35:53,611 a last-minute change was made to a key member of the cast. 816 00:35:53,902 --> 00:35:56,280 Originally when we got to Vancouver to shoot 817 00:35:56,572 --> 00:36:00,284 there was this really hot guy playing my boyfriend. 818 00:36:00,576 --> 00:36:04,413 That's all I remember about him. He was really hot and buff. 819 00:36:04,705 --> 00:36:06,785 We shot the first day with this other guy, great guy, 820 00:36:06,874 --> 00:36:08,626 really nice guy. 821 00:36:08,917 --> 00:36:10,919 It was my first major film but I had done some other things, 822 00:36:11,211 --> 00:36:13,714 so I shot the first scene of that day 823 00:36:14,006 --> 00:36:16,800 which was like well into the script 824 00:36:17,092 --> 00:36:20,095 when the ship was flooding with Peter Mark Richman. 825 00:36:20,387 --> 00:36:22,389 This is Jason's fault! 826 00:36:22,681 --> 00:36:24,321 Not another word of Jason, do you hear me? 827 00:36:24,391 --> 00:36:26,151 No, I don't. And it's time you listened to me 828 00:36:26,226 --> 00:36:27,144 if you want to get off this ship alive. 829 00:36:27,436 --> 00:36:31,106 Let's get to the lifeboats. 830 00:36:31,398 --> 00:36:32,858 He seemed a little uncomfortable. 831 00:36:33,150 --> 00:36:34,990 The chemistry with him and the Rennie character 832 00:36:35,194 --> 00:36:36,737 wasn't quite there. 833 00:36:37,029 --> 00:36:39,448 I thought there was chemistry. Whatever. 834 00:36:39,740 --> 00:36:41,241 Thank God for the producers because they really said, 835 00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:42,853 "You know, there's a problem here, 836 00:36:43,035 --> 00:36:44,787 and if we don't correct it right now, 837 00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:47,956 we're going to have a problem... A bigger problem." 838 00:36:48,248 --> 00:36:50,417 I think the day after that, one of the PA's came to me and said, 839 00:36:50,709 --> 00:36:52,549 "The producers want to see you tomorrow night." 840 00:36:52,711 --> 00:36:55,631 And I knew without them even saying it, 841 00:36:55,923 --> 00:36:57,966 I'm going to be let go. 842 00:36:58,258 --> 00:37:00,010 And so it was the toughest thing I've ever, you know, 843 00:37:00,302 --> 00:37:02,142 had to do was to basically to replace an actor, 844 00:37:02,346 --> 00:37:04,598 and that's what we ended up doing. 845 00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:05,933 But, again, it was for the benefit of the movie. 846 00:37:06,225 --> 00:37:08,143 And Scott Reeves came in. 847 00:37:08,435 --> 00:37:11,438 And Scott Reeves was so sweet and fantastic, 848 00:37:11,730 --> 00:37:13,232 and he's hot too. 849 00:37:13,524 --> 00:37:15,401 Also on board were Martin Cummins 850 00:37:15,693 --> 00:37:17,861 as film school geek Wayne... 851 00:37:18,153 --> 00:37:20,656 Kelly Hu, best known for her roles in "X2" 852 00:37:20,948 --> 00:37:22,324 and "The Scorpion King," 853 00:37:22,616 --> 00:37:24,034 and Saffron Henderson 854 00:37:24,326 --> 00:37:27,371 as head-banging rocker J.J. 855 00:37:27,663 --> 00:37:29,503 There was one girl in the movie who's a rocker, 856 00:37:29,581 --> 00:37:31,333 and she's got the Flying V. 857 00:37:31,625 --> 00:37:33,627 This place is achin' for a video! 858 00:37:33,919 --> 00:37:36,714 She's got to get her head bashed in by a Flying V. 859 00:37:37,005 --> 00:37:39,133 I mean, it just was like that's a no-brainer. 860 00:37:39,425 --> 00:37:42,136 [Scream and splatter sound] 861 00:37:42,428 --> 00:37:44,638 This is actually J.J.'s guitar 862 00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:46,932 and right here you'll notice 863 00:37:47,224 --> 00:37:48,183 that there's actually some of J.J.'s blood 864 00:37:48,475 --> 00:37:49,727 after almost 20 years. 865 00:37:50,018 --> 00:37:52,020 Forensics evidence. 866 00:37:52,312 --> 00:37:55,274 I think every "Friday the 13th" has to have the promiscuous girl 867 00:37:55,566 --> 00:37:57,651 who is caught doing something naughty. 868 00:37:57,943 --> 00:37:59,027 And she pays. 869 00:37:59,319 --> 00:38:00,487 Come and get it. 870 00:38:00,779 --> 00:38:02,281 She was the Queen Bee. 871 00:38:02,573 --> 00:38:03,949 She made everybody buzz around her. 872 00:38:04,241 --> 00:38:05,909 And she did that by going in there 873 00:38:06,201 --> 00:38:08,579 and being the edgiest, the coolest, 874 00:38:08,871 --> 00:38:11,290 the one that was always doing the riskiest stuff. 875 00:38:11,582 --> 00:38:12,291 I mean, seducing the teacher. 876 00:38:12,583 --> 00:38:14,793 Hey. 877 00:38:15,085 --> 00:38:18,172 There's a scene where she paints body organs on her. 878 00:38:18,464 --> 00:38:20,174 I didn't mind the biology project so much 879 00:38:20,466 --> 00:38:22,593 because it was kind of funny, 880 00:38:22,885 --> 00:38:26,054 This girl comes on to me, and I was getting turned on. 881 00:38:26,346 --> 00:38:29,266 I was really mmm 882 00:38:29,558 --> 00:38:31,477 having it affect me. 883 00:38:31,769 --> 00:38:34,563 Peter was a much older man when I was doing that, 884 00:38:34,855 --> 00:38:35,981 but he definitely helped me with the scene 885 00:38:36,273 --> 00:38:38,859 and made me feel comfortable. 886 00:38:39,151 --> 00:38:41,071 What do you think you're doing? I'm your teacher! 887 00:38:41,153 --> 00:38:43,447 - And cut it. (laughter) 888 00:38:43,739 --> 00:38:46,825 I was a little nervous about, you know, 889 00:38:47,117 --> 00:38:48,660 some of the revealing shots. 890 00:38:48,952 --> 00:38:50,662 That was my issue really. 891 00:38:50,954 --> 00:38:52,998 Rob Hedden wanted to make me feel comfortable, 892 00:38:53,290 --> 00:38:54,930 so he just stripped down at the same time. 893 00:38:55,042 --> 00:38:56,682 He goes, "Look. I'm doing the same thing." 894 00:38:56,877 --> 00:38:58,629 And he was so awesome that way. 895 00:38:58,921 --> 00:39:01,256 I did not feel exploited. 896 00:39:01,548 --> 00:39:04,384 Then, again, I was the good girl 897 00:39:04,676 --> 00:39:06,636 who was fully clothed throughout the entire movie. 898 00:39:06,804 --> 00:39:07,930 Not only did I have a shirt, 899 00:39:08,222 --> 00:39:09,931 I had a shirt and a vest 900 00:39:09,932 --> 00:39:11,452 and baggy, horrible pants, macho shoes. 901 00:39:11,975 --> 00:39:14,770 It was bad. It was very bad. 902 00:39:15,062 --> 00:39:18,357 "Friday the 13th" has so many '80-isms in it 903 00:39:18,649 --> 00:39:21,068 with the camcorder being this huge, huge camcorder, 904 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,571 the cocaine, and just the dress and the hair 905 00:39:24,863 --> 00:39:26,240 because it was big hair, lots of backcombing 906 00:39:26,532 --> 00:39:32,955 and definitely an '80s movie. 907 00:39:33,247 --> 00:39:35,165 I think that a lot of creativity 908 00:39:35,457 --> 00:39:38,794 rightfully has to go into modes of murder, 909 00:39:39,086 --> 00:39:40,796 you know, and you know, 910 00:39:41,088 --> 00:39:43,048 how is he going to dispatch his victims? 911 00:39:43,340 --> 00:39:45,740 We had Kelly Hu and it was one of her first movies, you know, 912 00:39:45,843 --> 00:39:47,636 and she was great. 913 00:39:47,928 --> 00:39:50,764 And she was totally up for it and I thought, 914 00:39:51,056 --> 00:39:52,936 "Well, okay, let's figure out a way to kill them 915 00:39:53,141 --> 00:39:55,602 that doesn't involve a knife or something else. 916 00:39:55,894 --> 00:39:58,981 The disco scene was one of the hardest scenes 917 00:39:59,273 --> 00:40:00,566 I've ever had to do as Jason 918 00:40:00,858 --> 00:40:03,735 because we did like 14 hours of work. 919 00:40:04,027 --> 00:40:05,863 We decided to do this big dance thing and she's circling around 920 00:40:06,154 --> 00:40:07,794 and his face is popping up here and there. 921 00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:11,076 And then at the end, I had to pick the actress up 922 00:40:11,368 --> 00:40:12,870 and choke her to the ceiling. 923 00:40:13,161 --> 00:40:15,873 I had to say, "Well, now I have to hold you up to the ceiling, 924 00:40:16,164 --> 00:40:18,792 and then throw you down hard, and you're dead. 925 00:40:19,084 --> 00:40:20,335 So you can't break your fall. 926 00:40:20,627 --> 00:40:23,380 Not easy to do, and the girl did a great job 927 00:40:23,672 --> 00:40:27,134 because she just hit the deck hard. 928 00:40:27,426 --> 00:40:29,666 That was actually one of the, at least from what I heard, 929 00:40:29,845 --> 00:40:31,305 you know, one of the more satisfying deaths in it 930 00:40:31,597 --> 00:40:34,391 because even without any blood or, you know, gore. 931 00:40:34,683 --> 00:40:36,852 Despite its attempts to feature more fantastic effects 932 00:40:37,144 --> 00:40:38,896 than outright bloodletting, 933 00:40:39,187 --> 00:40:40,939 the film still had to pass muster 934 00:40:41,231 --> 00:40:44,776 with the stringent MPAA ratings board. 935 00:40:45,068 --> 00:40:47,613 I always thought of "Friday the 13th Part 8" 936 00:40:47,905 --> 00:40:49,698 as sort of the Disney version of the "Friday the 13ths." 937 00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:53,368 It wasn't quite as gory. 938 00:40:53,660 --> 00:40:55,120 Well, I don't really know about the censor boards 939 00:40:55,412 --> 00:40:56,705 and what they allow, or what they didn't allow, 940 00:40:56,997 --> 00:40:57,915 but I'm sure they probably didn't like 941 00:40:58,206 --> 00:41:00,709 "Friday the 13th" so maybe that's why the, 942 00:41:01,001 --> 00:41:03,086 you know, blood situation sort of diminished. 943 00:41:03,378 --> 00:41:05,714 It just seemed a little tame. 944 00:41:06,006 --> 00:41:06,840 I mean, the 1980's, at the height of the success 945 00:41:07,132 --> 00:41:08,884 of these movies, 946 00:41:09,176 --> 00:41:10,344 there were multiple cases made that he was kind of 947 00:41:10,636 --> 00:41:12,846 the modern Reagan-era killer 948 00:41:13,138 --> 00:41:15,419 because he was making those kids that didn't "just say no" 949 00:41:15,515 --> 00:41:18,477 and were having premarital sex, pay. 950 00:41:18,769 --> 00:41:20,145 It's just sort of, watch out, young people. 951 00:41:20,437 --> 00:41:21,688 Be careful what you do 952 00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:23,982 because Jason's gonna come to you. 953 00:41:24,274 --> 00:41:26,109 There were various things like, "Okay, 954 00:41:26,401 --> 00:41:28,737 we gotta electrocute one kid, gotta electrocute somebody. 955 00:41:29,029 --> 00:41:29,821 A lot of sparks. That'll be great. 956 00:41:30,113 --> 00:41:31,698 Another one we did, 957 00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:33,450 and this was done after the fact, 958 00:41:33,742 --> 00:41:34,409 it wasn't shot during principal photography. 959 00:41:34,701 --> 00:41:37,120 We decided let's put a sauna on the ship. 960 00:41:37,412 --> 00:41:38,892 I actually put the Panaflex on my back 961 00:41:39,164 --> 00:41:42,125 to shoot that sequence of the hot coals. 962 00:41:42,417 --> 00:41:43,919 You start asking yourself is there something wrong with you 963 00:41:44,211 --> 00:41:46,421 when you're spending your day 964 00:41:46,713 --> 00:41:48,674 thinking up ways to murder people. 965 00:41:48,966 --> 00:41:51,259 L'll never forget when I was shooting the shower scene 966 00:41:51,551 --> 00:41:53,911 because when he comes in, even though you know it's a movie, 967 00:41:54,179 --> 00:41:57,349 and you know you're just acting, it was scary. 968 00:41:57,641 --> 00:42:00,018 You know, you shoot all night. 969 00:42:00,310 --> 00:42:02,938 You shoot all night in these movies and you're exhausted, 970 00:42:03,230 --> 00:42:05,357 you're freezing, you're being hosed down all the time. 971 00:42:05,649 --> 00:42:07,209 You're in the same clothes for 3 months. 972 00:42:07,484 --> 00:42:11,279 It was somewhat dangerous. 973 00:42:11,571 --> 00:42:14,116 We were rather miserable through that period. 974 00:42:14,408 --> 00:42:16,326 I had to be drowning in the ocean, 975 00:42:16,618 --> 00:42:19,246 and we were in this huge oil tank 976 00:42:19,538 --> 00:42:21,206 on the sound stage, 977 00:42:21,498 --> 00:42:23,098 and I just remember going under the water 978 00:42:23,375 --> 00:42:25,961 and coming up and just being covered in oil, 979 00:42:26,253 --> 00:42:28,005 and on my face and thinking, 980 00:42:28,296 --> 00:42:31,258 I think I've just taken 10 years off of my life. 981 00:42:31,550 --> 00:42:33,301 One of the takes that's in the film 982 00:42:33,593 --> 00:42:35,113 where Julius comes up out of the water, 983 00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:37,764 the water was so violent 984 00:42:38,056 --> 00:42:40,183 I'm losing the boat here. I'm losing the boat. 985 00:42:40,475 --> 00:42:43,437 The boat was closer than I had anticipated, 986 00:42:43,729 --> 00:42:45,814 so when I came up, the top of my gums 987 00:42:46,106 --> 00:42:47,607 hit the edge of the boat. 988 00:42:47,899 --> 00:42:51,403 There were so many times where I just hoped 989 00:42:51,695 --> 00:42:52,863 that I wasn't going to end up in a cast 990 00:42:53,155 --> 00:42:56,450 at the end of the night. 991 00:42:56,742 --> 00:42:57,993 But, you know, it's show biz, baby, you know. 992 00:42:58,285 --> 00:43:00,454 You keep it moving. 993 00:43:00,746 --> 00:43:02,664 When the remaining cast members abandon ship 994 00:43:02,956 --> 00:43:04,958 in a final bid for survival, 995 00:43:05,250 --> 00:43:09,171 it appears that Jason had been left behind on the Lazarus. 996 00:43:09,463 --> 00:43:11,506 Leaving fans to ponder another question... 997 00:43:11,798 --> 00:43:14,259 How did Jason get to New York City? 998 00:43:14,551 --> 00:43:16,261 We went through all of these, you know, 999 00:43:16,553 --> 00:43:20,098 scenarios of how did he get there 1000 00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:21,308 and then we ultimately decided 1001 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,852 let's just let the audience wonder 1002 00:43:24,144 --> 00:43:25,979 and let them try to figure it out. 1003 00:43:26,271 --> 00:43:27,314 He'd been doing all these other things during the movie 1004 00:43:27,606 --> 00:43:29,941 that defy any kind of human logic. 1005 00:43:30,233 --> 00:43:32,527 One image I had in my head 1006 00:43:32,819 --> 00:43:33,987 that really pertained to the New York thing 1007 00:43:34,279 --> 00:43:37,991 was having Jason rise up out of the water 1008 00:43:38,283 --> 00:43:40,243 into the harbor in New York, 1009 00:43:40,535 --> 00:43:42,079 and the first thing he sees is a giant billboard 1010 00:43:42,370 --> 00:43:44,289 with his face on it, 1011 00:43:44,581 --> 00:43:48,502 and he gives, just this little cock of his head like, what? 1012 00:43:48,794 --> 00:43:51,463 Operator, this is an emergency. Get me the police. 1013 00:43:51,755 --> 00:43:56,468 [Glass My death scene, the fans 1014 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,595 and just the letters and stuff that I get, 1015 00:43:58,887 --> 00:44:02,182 it really, it really made an impact on people. 1016 00:44:02,474 --> 00:44:05,977 Just a great scene because it had really never been done 1017 00:44:06,269 --> 00:44:08,855 to try and box Jason. 1018 00:44:09,147 --> 00:44:12,234 Initially they had planned to have that boxing match 1019 00:44:12,526 --> 00:44:16,363 take place in Madison Square Garden. 1020 00:44:16,655 --> 00:44:17,864 His character thought, you know, l'll just wear him out 1021 00:44:18,156 --> 00:44:19,491 with my punches and ended up wearing himself out. 1022 00:44:19,783 --> 00:44:22,702 We just really went for it. 1023 00:44:22,994 --> 00:44:26,081 I, you know, to ask Kane. I said, "Hey, dude. 1024 00:44:26,373 --> 00:44:28,333 Can I really hit you?" He goes, "V.C., give me all you got." 1025 00:44:28,625 --> 00:44:31,711 He was punching me for real on every shot to the body. 1026 00:44:32,003 --> 00:44:34,172 Like 66 punches each take. 1027 00:44:34,464 --> 00:44:36,341 And like even at the end of that scene 1028 00:44:36,633 --> 00:44:38,385 where you see my knuckles very swollen 1029 00:44:38,677 --> 00:44:39,469 and with blood and stuff all on them, 1030 00:44:39,761 --> 00:44:41,179 that was real, baby. 1031 00:44:41,471 --> 00:44:43,932 It was, you know, it was toe to toe. 1032 00:44:44,224 --> 00:44:46,560 So I did, you know, I took a little abuse myself 1033 00:44:46,852 --> 00:44:49,563 so by the time it was time 1034 00:44:49,855 --> 00:44:51,690 to knock the head off the dummy, I was ready to do it. 1035 00:44:51,982 --> 00:44:54,943 You know, everybody else can see what's coming but Julius. 1036 00:44:55,235 --> 00:44:57,404 You know what I mean? So he's just standing there. 1037 00:44:57,696 --> 00:45:00,073 And just a classic line that he gives right before that. 1038 00:45:00,365 --> 00:45:02,075 Take your best shot 1039 00:45:02,367 --> 00:45:04,244 Motherfucker. 1040 00:45:04,536 --> 00:45:06,296 If you are going to sort of tire yourself out 1041 00:45:06,413 --> 00:45:08,206 trying to take Jason on, 1042 00:45:08,498 --> 00:45:11,418 don't pause and say "Take your best shot, motherfucker." 1043 00:45:11,710 --> 00:45:13,753 Run because he is going to knock your head off into a dumpster. 1044 00:45:14,045 --> 00:45:16,548 They made three. One was for close-ups. 1045 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,342 One was heavier that actually hit the garbage can, 1046 00:45:19,634 --> 00:45:21,011 and then there was another one that was lighter 1047 00:45:21,303 --> 00:45:22,596 that they tossed up in the air. 1048 00:45:22,888 --> 00:45:25,432 Yeah, but I kept the one, the money shot one. 1049 00:45:25,724 --> 00:45:26,558 The one that was for close-ups. 1050 00:45:26,850 --> 00:45:28,643 It was an adventure. 1051 00:45:28,935 --> 00:45:30,687 It was really, really an adventure. 1052 00:45:30,979 --> 00:45:32,856 For veteran character actor Peter Mark Richman, 1053 00:45:33,148 --> 00:45:35,066 best known for his roles in episodes 1054 00:45:35,358 --> 00:45:37,319 of "The Twilight Zone" and "Dynasty," 1055 00:45:37,611 --> 00:45:40,322 being killed by Jason was hardly the high point 1056 00:45:40,614 --> 00:45:43,658 of his prestigious acting career. 1057 00:45:43,950 --> 00:45:47,954 One of the most awful things that I had to do was my demise. 1058 00:45:48,246 --> 00:45:49,581 Jason picked me up and carried me over to this barrel, 1059 00:45:49,873 --> 00:45:54,169 and there was a rat on top of the barrel. 1060 00:45:54,461 --> 00:45:57,255 It was so nauseating. 1061 00:45:57,547 --> 00:46:01,259 We shot in some miserable street in Vancouver. 1062 00:46:01,551 --> 00:46:03,220 That was supposed to be New York, right? 1063 00:46:03,511 --> 00:46:05,055 So there was a joke running around. 1064 00:46:05,347 --> 00:46:06,640 It was Jason Takes Vancouver 1065 00:46:06,932 --> 00:46:09,476 instead of Jason Takes Manhattan, 1066 00:46:09,768 --> 00:46:12,270 but we were able to make a lot of parts of Vancouver 1067 00:46:12,562 --> 00:46:14,231 look like New York. 1068 00:46:14,522 --> 00:46:16,002 Let's be honest. That's not Manhattan. 1069 00:46:16,107 --> 00:46:18,026 I've been to Manhattan. That's not Manhattan. 1070 00:46:18,318 --> 00:46:22,072 You don't understand, there's a maniac trying to kill us. 1071 00:46:22,364 --> 00:46:24,658 Welcome to New York. 1072 00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:27,619 It's kind of like trying to make a nice steak dinner 1073 00:46:27,911 --> 00:46:29,496 on a ham sandwich budget. 1074 00:46:29,788 --> 00:46:33,123 Not since "Rumble in the Bronx" 1075 00:46:33,124 --> 00:46:33,374 has a less accurate depiction of New York been presented. 1076 00:46:33,375 --> 00:46:35,418 And then not only that, 1077 00:46:35,710 --> 00:46:36,795 they were only going to let me shoot 1078 00:46:37,087 --> 00:46:39,464 for one week actually in New York. 1079 00:46:39,756 --> 00:46:41,383 We put a 40-foot crane in the middle of Times Square, 1080 00:46:41,675 --> 00:46:43,760 and we did some big stuff 1081 00:46:44,052 --> 00:46:45,679 that none of the Fridays had been able to do before. 1082 00:46:45,971 --> 00:46:49,516 It gave us a different kind of engagement 1083 00:46:49,808 --> 00:46:51,393 with the, with the audience. 1084 00:46:51,685 --> 00:46:55,188 The single most amazing thing that I've ever done 1085 00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,110 as the character was shooting the scenes in Times Square. 1086 00:47:00,402 --> 00:47:05,156 And there were hundreds of people on either side 1087 00:47:05,448 --> 00:47:05,490 of the streets behind barricades watching the filming. 1088 00:47:05,782 --> 00:47:07,993 So I had the mask on, 1089 00:47:08,285 --> 00:47:10,870 and just stood there knowing there's hundreds of people, 1090 00:47:11,162 --> 00:47:13,665 and I just turned and looked at them. 1091 00:47:13,957 --> 00:47:15,583 They went nuts. 1092 00:47:15,875 --> 00:47:17,085 It was the most incredible thing I've ever seen. 1093 00:47:17,377 --> 00:47:19,337 Screaming and cheering 1094 00:47:19,629 --> 00:47:21,749 just because I had given them the look in the costume. 1095 00:47:21,923 --> 00:47:23,842 But when I was standing in Times Square 1096 00:47:24,134 --> 00:47:25,302 looking at this giant crane with all these extras around, 1097 00:47:25,593 --> 00:47:26,970 Jason walking through. 1098 00:47:27,262 --> 00:47:28,930 This is a real movie. This is big. 1099 00:47:29,222 --> 00:47:31,141 I felt like, like a rock star or something 1100 00:47:31,433 --> 00:47:33,018 because the way people reacted. 1101 00:47:33,310 --> 00:47:35,270 You didn't get me in the lake. 1102 00:47:35,562 --> 00:47:38,273 And you're not gonna get me now! 1103 00:47:38,565 --> 00:47:40,483 I felt very empowered playing the part, 1104 00:47:40,775 --> 00:47:41,943 especially at the end when, you know, 1105 00:47:42,235 --> 00:47:43,778 I was the only one surviving 1106 00:47:44,070 --> 00:47:48,074 and there we were in the sewers, and I felt like, 1107 00:47:48,366 --> 00:47:51,036 Alright, this is a nice, tough, accurate portrayal 1108 00:47:51,328 --> 00:47:57,000 of a girl's strength. 1109 00:47:57,292 --> 00:47:59,169 You know, he's chasing after our heroes 1110 00:47:59,461 --> 00:48:01,463 at the end and he gets hit with toxic waste 1111 00:48:01,755 --> 00:48:04,132 and melts to the point where it is supernatural ending 1112 00:48:04,424 --> 00:48:06,468 where he finally reverts to the child, 1113 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,678 which seemed like it had more closure than the other ones 1114 00:48:08,970 --> 00:48:10,330 as far as Jason coming full circle. 1115 00:48:10,555 --> 00:48:12,849 And what was supposed to happen is that 1116 00:48:13,141 --> 00:48:16,728 young Jason comes out of this giant skull, 1117 00:48:17,020 --> 00:48:19,356 and it just looked funny. 1118 00:48:19,647 --> 00:48:22,192 And so it was on the famous cutting room floor. 1119 00:48:22,484 --> 00:48:24,986 Were I submerged in toxic waste, 1120 00:48:25,278 --> 00:48:27,614 I'm probably not emerging as my 8-year-old self, 1121 00:48:27,906 --> 00:48:29,546 particularly if I was already a mongoloid, 1122 00:48:29,699 --> 00:48:31,409 mentally handicapped person. 1123 00:48:31,701 --> 00:48:32,702 Clearly the government needs to be investigating 1124 00:48:32,994 --> 00:48:35,663 the healthy byproduct of toxic waste. 1125 00:48:35,955 --> 00:48:38,875 Part of it is that he is just a supernatural kind of being, 1126 00:48:39,167 --> 00:48:41,920 that keeps coming back. 1127 00:48:42,212 --> 00:48:43,671 You just can't kill the guy. 1128 00:48:43,963 --> 00:48:46,841 And I couldn't kill him either. 1129 00:48:47,133 --> 00:48:48,593 He-he-he-he. 1130 00:48:48,885 --> 00:48:50,845 The never-ending battle 1131 00:48:51,137 --> 00:48:52,722 between Jason and the Motion Picture Association of America 1132 00:48:53,014 --> 00:48:54,808 continued to make headlines 1133 00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:56,434 in the weeks leading up to the film's release. 1134 00:48:56,726 --> 00:48:57,966 The ratings board wasn't amused 1135 00:48:58,228 --> 00:48:59,646 by the image of Jason 1136 00:48:59,938 --> 00:49:02,023 slashing his way through the film's teaser poster 1137 00:49:02,315 --> 00:49:03,525 with a bloody knife. 1138 00:49:03,817 --> 00:49:06,486 And neither were New York City officials. 1139 00:49:06,778 --> 00:49:09,114 I remember some controversy as far as like 1140 00:49:09,406 --> 00:49:11,825 with the "I Heart New York" poster. 1141 00:49:12,117 --> 00:49:16,037 It did piss off the Tourism Board in New York. 1142 00:49:16,329 --> 00:49:18,957 In other news, after New York officials threatened to sue, 1143 00:49:19,249 --> 00:49:22,127 Paramount Pictures agreed to remove 1144 00:49:22,419 --> 00:49:25,672 the original promotional posters for "Friday the 13th Part 8" 1145 00:49:25,964 --> 00:49:29,008 where Jason is slashing through the "I love New York" logo. 1146 00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:33,555 As far as like capitalizing on being in New York City, 1147 00:49:33,847 --> 00:49:35,515 I think one of the, another way that they did that, 1148 00:49:35,807 --> 00:49:38,810 that was really kind of brilliant was the trailer. 1149 00:49:39,102 --> 00:49:40,395 They set it up with the skyline 1150 00:49:40,687 --> 00:49:42,230 that we all know to be New York City. 1151 00:49:42,522 --> 00:49:43,940 You know, Frank Sinatra's playing. 1152 00:49:44,232 --> 00:49:45,066 You know, you're thinking it's going to be 1153 00:49:45,358 --> 00:49:47,902 some beautiful, sleepy, you know, date movie 1154 00:49:48,194 --> 00:49:52,240 and then all of a sudden Jason's ass pops up in there. 1155 00:49:52,532 --> 00:49:56,077 Now New York has a new problem. 1156 00:49:56,369 --> 00:49:58,455 Even if you are not a genre film fan, 1157 00:49:58,746 --> 00:49:59,539 you're just a marketing executive, 1158 00:49:59,831 --> 00:50:02,417 that is a home run marketing concept. 1159 00:50:02,709 --> 00:50:05,336 And then shortly after we did "Jason Takes Manhattan," 1160 00:50:05,628 --> 00:50:07,380 (I was asked to do "The Arsenic) Hall Show," 1161 00:50:07,672 --> 00:50:10,049 in costume as a guest. 1162 00:50:10,341 --> 00:50:14,095 And I walk out, and he pulled the whole interview off 1163 00:50:14,387 --> 00:50:15,638 by talking to someone who doesn't speak. 1164 00:50:15,930 --> 00:50:18,057 I got some great titles I put together... 1165 00:50:18,349 --> 00:50:20,349 Jason and the Three Babies. What you think of that? 1166 00:50:20,518 --> 00:50:21,895 (laughter) 1167 00:50:22,187 --> 00:50:23,730 Despite its clever ad campaign, 1168 00:50:24,022 --> 00:50:26,357 the film opened to scathing reviews 1169 00:50:26,649 --> 00:50:31,696 and earned a new series low of $14.3 million. 1170 00:50:31,988 --> 00:50:33,573 I don't know if "Friday the 13th Part 8" 1171 00:50:33,865 --> 00:50:35,909 was the best episode. 1172 00:50:36,201 --> 00:50:37,368 I think the first one was probably the best episode, 1173 00:50:37,660 --> 00:50:39,078 in my humble opinion. 1174 00:50:39,370 --> 00:50:42,373 But we gave it our best. We really tried. 1175 00:50:42,665 --> 00:50:44,959 One of the things is that some of the fans, 1176 00:50:45,251 --> 00:50:46,127 it kind of rubbed them the wrong way, 1177 00:50:46,419 --> 00:50:48,588 the fact that they went expecting to see 1178 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,280 all this slashing and the things that you typically associate 1179 00:50:51,466 --> 00:50:54,260 with a "Friday the 13th" movie taking place in New York City, 1180 00:50:54,552 --> 00:50:56,346 and, you know, it took place on the boat. 1181 00:50:56,638 --> 00:50:58,431 For producer Frank Mancuso, Jr., 1182 00:50:58,723 --> 00:51:00,808 who would go on to produce such films 1183 00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:04,312 as "Species," "Ronin" and "Stigmata," 1184 00:51:04,604 --> 00:51:07,023 the time had finally come to hang up the hockey mask 1185 00:51:07,315 --> 00:51:11,236 and bid farewell to "Friday the 13th." 1186 00:51:11,528 --> 00:51:14,489 The "Friday the 13ths" had a lot of negative connotations 1187 00:51:14,781 --> 00:51:18,618 that came along with it from a societal point of view, 1188 00:51:18,910 --> 00:51:23,081 and I think that that was very much a concern to me. 1189 00:51:23,373 --> 00:51:25,625 And if a kid got shot in a Friday the 13th movie, 1190 00:51:25,917 --> 00:51:27,835 it was the movie's fault, 1191 00:51:28,127 --> 00:51:29,254 it wasn't the fact that the kid was there with the gun. 1192 00:51:29,546 --> 00:51:31,631 You know, so, I can't keep on doing this 1193 00:51:31,923 --> 00:51:33,258 because on some level this is going to get to a place 1194 00:51:33,550 --> 00:51:35,635 where I can't get away from it. 1195 00:51:35,927 --> 00:51:38,407 So I've sort of made a conscious decision not to do it anymore. 1196 00:51:38,638 --> 00:51:41,099 I got along so great with Frank and just, 1197 00:51:41,391 --> 00:51:43,768 he just had such a great attitude. 1198 00:51:44,060 --> 00:51:47,105 And I was just amazed at how much creativity 1199 00:51:47,397 --> 00:51:50,650 and certainly insight into what was going to work, 1200 00:51:50,942 --> 00:51:52,110 what wasn't going to work, 1201 00:51:52,402 --> 00:51:54,946 and how to handle people. 1202 00:51:55,238 --> 00:51:56,823 I was lucky enough to be on that ride, 1203 00:51:57,115 --> 00:51:58,366 and I appreciate the fans 1204 00:51:58,658 --> 00:52:00,994 because as far as I'm concerned, 1205 00:52:01,286 --> 00:52:04,789 the fans are what made this movie what it is. 1206 00:52:05,081 --> 00:52:06,541 A cultural sort of phenomenon. 1207 00:52:06,833 --> 00:52:09,127 And that doesn't happen one way. 1208 00:52:09,419 --> 00:52:11,588 That's a two-way street. 1209 00:52:11,879 --> 00:52:13,298 They sort of brought a life to it 1210 00:52:13,590 --> 00:52:13,840 that it would have never had without them, 1211 00:52:14,132 --> 00:52:19,132 without any doubt. 1212 00:52:30,690 --> 00:52:32,984 Although Paramount Pictures never officially announced 1213 00:52:33,276 --> 00:52:34,902 the end of their association 1214 00:52:35,194 --> 00:52:36,321 with the "Friday the 13th" franchise, 1215 00:52:36,613 --> 00:52:38,406 after the disappointing box office returns 1216 00:52:38,698 --> 00:52:40,491 of JASON TAKES MANHATTAN, 1217 00:52:40,783 --> 00:52:42,076 there was little interest in moving forward 1218 00:52:42,368 --> 00:52:43,995 with another sequel. 1219 00:52:44,287 --> 00:52:46,623 For three years, Jason would lie dormant... 1220 00:52:46,914 --> 00:52:49,417 until producer Sean S. Cunningham 1221 00:52:49,709 --> 00:52:51,836 decided that the time had come 1222 00:52:52,128 --> 00:52:55,548 for the monster to return to his maker. 1223 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,841 You know, I was away from FRIDAY THE 13TH 1224 00:52:57,133 --> 00:52:59,010 for several years 1225 00:52:59,302 --> 00:53:00,386 because they were making the same movie over and over again, 1226 00:53:00,678 --> 00:53:02,430 and I'd been associated with it, 1227 00:53:02,722 --> 00:53:04,202 but I had moved on to do other things. 1228 00:53:04,265 --> 00:53:06,100 I think probably after "Part 8," 1229 00:53:06,392 --> 00:53:08,312 Paramount figured the franchise had gone its run. 1230 00:53:08,478 --> 00:53:10,438 The whole reason to come back 1231 00:53:10,730 --> 00:53:12,130 was I wanted to do Freddy vs. Jason. 1232 00:53:12,273 --> 00:53:14,192 I thought that was going to be so cool, 1233 00:53:14,484 --> 00:53:16,694 and it was a way to sort of breathe the life into it. 1234 00:53:16,986 --> 00:53:19,322 As it turned out, I was able to get the rights back 1235 00:53:19,614 --> 00:53:20,934 from Paramount and Warner Brothers 1236 00:53:21,032 --> 00:53:21,949 and set something up at New Line, 1237 00:53:22,241 --> 00:53:24,494 but we had to wait for a long time 1238 00:53:24,786 --> 00:53:26,186 before we could do FREDDY VS. JASON, 1239 00:53:26,454 --> 00:53:30,083 and that's when we wound up doing FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 9. 1240 00:53:30,375 --> 00:53:32,095 Paramount kept the rights to FRIDAY THE 13TH 1241 00:53:32,377 --> 00:53:34,754 and the other partners had Jason Voorhees, 1242 00:53:35,046 --> 00:53:38,299 Which is Why PART 9 is a FINAL FRIDAY, 1243 00:53:38,591 --> 00:53:40,843 not FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 9. 1244 00:53:41,135 --> 00:53:42,553 With the sequel rights now secured 1245 00:53:42,845 --> 00:53:44,972 and New Line Cinema officially on board, 1246 00:53:45,264 --> 00:53:47,350 Cunningham turned the director's chair 1247 00:53:47,642 --> 00:53:49,852 over to an ambitious young filmmaker 1248 00:53:50,144 --> 00:53:53,231 whose passion was matched only by his inexperience. 1249 00:53:53,523 --> 00:53:55,274 When I started directing the film I was 23. 1250 00:53:55,566 --> 00:53:58,027 And at that point I was the youngest director 1251 00:53:58,319 --> 00:54:00,719 New Line had ever hired, and I was a year out of film school. 1252 00:54:00,863 --> 00:54:01,572 And I won Best Picture when I was there for the short film 1253 00:54:01,864 --> 00:54:03,366 that I had made. 1254 00:54:03,658 --> 00:54:05,326 He had just graduated NYU, 1255 00:54:05,618 --> 00:54:07,704 had a script written with a friend named Dean Lorey 1256 00:54:07,995 --> 00:54:09,664 Called JOHNNY ZOMBIE. 1257 00:54:09,956 --> 00:54:12,417 It was a fun little kind of horror comedy 1258 00:54:12,709 --> 00:54:15,753 that started getting more and more attention 1259 00:54:16,045 --> 00:54:17,588 and eventually became a film called MY BOYFRIEND'S BACK 1260 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,883 which was a major production for Disney, 1261 00:54:21,175 --> 00:54:22,927 and they didn't want a first-time director helming it. 1262 00:54:23,219 --> 00:54:26,055 So Adam kind of got bumped off the project. 1263 00:54:26,347 --> 00:54:28,599 Our feeling about Jason 1264 00:54:28,891 --> 00:54:30,852 was we can't take it too seriously. 1265 00:54:31,144 --> 00:54:32,311 It's got to be fun for us. 1266 00:54:32,603 --> 00:54:34,188 And we were huge geek fans. 1267 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,982 We loved the series. 1268 00:54:36,274 --> 00:54:37,834 And it was like, 'How do we make a movie 1269 00:54:37,984 --> 00:54:39,569 that we want to see?' 1270 00:54:39,861 --> 00:54:41,738 I think when JASON GOES TO HELL was conceived 1271 00:54:42,029 --> 00:54:44,615 it was coming off the ill-reception of PART 8 1272 00:54:44,907 --> 00:54:48,161 which was not very positive. 1273 00:54:48,453 --> 00:54:51,038 So we tried to kind of change the formula a little bit. 1274 00:54:51,330 --> 00:54:53,416 The plot was actually dictated by Sean. 1275 00:54:53,708 --> 00:54:55,948 Basically what he said was, 'I want that damn hockey mask 1276 00:54:56,210 --> 00:54:58,045 out of the movie. 1277 00:54:58,337 --> 00:55:00,423 So whatever you come up with, let's make that movie.' 1278 00:55:00,715 --> 00:55:03,885 Rightly or wrongly, maybe Jason needed a little shaking up. 1279 00:55:04,177 --> 00:55:07,013 So we decided to go in and mess with the mythology a little bit. 1280 00:55:07,305 --> 00:55:09,682 Much like in HALLOWEEN 3. 1281 00:55:09,974 --> 00:55:11,976 They just threw out Michael Myers entirely. 1282 00:55:12,268 --> 00:55:14,187 Sean wasn't involved with the hockey mask. 1283 00:55:14,479 --> 00:55:15,563 That wasn't Sean's movie. 1284 00:55:15,855 --> 00:55:18,274 Sean's movie was about a mother 1285 00:55:18,566 --> 00:55:20,109 avenging the wrongful death of her son. 1286 00:55:20,401 --> 00:55:23,362 So Sean always wanted to kind of go back to themes of family 1287 00:55:23,654 --> 00:55:25,865 and those ideas so we were really turned on by that. 1288 00:55:26,157 --> 00:55:28,326 He wanted to create a mythology 1289 00:55:28,618 --> 00:55:31,329 out of these previous eight films 1290 00:55:31,621 --> 00:55:36,167 that really weren't in any way leading to a mythology, 1291 00:55:36,459 --> 00:55:37,585 so he had to kind of create it from scratch. 1292 00:55:37,877 --> 00:55:39,712 We thought how fun would it be to play with 1293 00:55:40,004 --> 00:55:41,844 the audience's expectations and start the movie 1294 00:55:42,048 --> 00:55:43,090 by killing Jason. 1295 00:55:43,382 --> 00:55:48,888 Incoming! 1296 00:55:49,180 --> 00:55:51,098 And once he's been killed, 1297 00:55:51,390 --> 00:55:53,270 we started to reveal a more sort of interesting, 1298 00:55:53,392 --> 00:55:54,018 or at least from our point of view, 1299 00:55:54,310 --> 00:55:56,854 version of the Jason myth 1300 00:55:57,146 --> 00:56:01,317 which is that Jason is ostensibly Hell's assassin. 1301 00:56:01,609 --> 00:56:03,736 I didn't have a clue as to what the plot was. 1302 00:56:04,028 --> 00:56:05,696 And we got this hodge-podge of a script. 1303 00:56:05,988 --> 00:56:08,241 There was something about Jason 1304 00:56:08,533 --> 00:56:10,201 transferring from body to body to body. 1305 00:56:10,493 --> 00:56:14,872 So Jason is not a hockey mask wielding maniac, 1306 00:56:15,164 --> 00:56:16,624 even though that's his favorite form, 1307 00:56:16,916 --> 00:56:23,881 but that his evil can go from person to person to person. 1308 00:56:24,173 --> 00:56:26,384 This was one of the first films where 1309 00:56:26,676 --> 00:56:31,180 the idea and the essence of Jason's evil 1310 00:56:31,472 --> 00:56:34,100 sort of manifesting itself physically 1311 00:56:34,392 --> 00:56:36,352 was really the first time they'd ever done that, 1312 00:56:36,644 --> 00:56:38,229 and it was definitely a departure from the other movies. 1313 00:56:38,521 --> 00:56:40,898 So it was a bit more of a creature movie 1314 00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:43,442 than it was an all-out kind of slasher film. 1315 00:56:43,734 --> 00:56:45,987 It's reminiscent of THE HIDDEN 1316 00:56:46,279 --> 00:56:48,990 which I hadn't even seen before we wrote JASON. 1317 00:56:49,282 --> 00:56:52,118 So we were like, 'Wow. That's coincidental. Uh, oh.' 1318 00:56:52,410 --> 00:56:54,412 I was so surprised when I finally saw the film 1319 00:56:54,704 --> 00:56:57,540 that it actually made any sense at all. 1320 00:56:57,832 --> 00:56:59,512 I think we figured out that the entire crew 1321 00:56:59,792 --> 00:57:02,128 was under the age of 25 except for me. 1322 00:57:02,420 --> 00:57:03,921 And I went, 'Really?' 1323 00:57:04,213 --> 00:57:07,341 And so there was that enthusiasm like, 'Oh, boy! 1324 00:57:07,633 --> 00:57:08,426 We're doing a feature film here! 1325 00:57:08,718 --> 00:57:09,969 This is so cool!' 1326 00:57:10,261 --> 00:57:11,721 I didn't know a damn thing, 1327 00:57:12,013 --> 00:57:14,515 and I think about the first day of production 1328 00:57:14,807 --> 00:57:17,393 is when I realized, 'Wow! I am so in over my head.' 1329 00:57:17,685 --> 00:57:19,937 As JASON GOES TO HELL begins, 1330 00:57:20,229 --> 00:57:22,857 a nubile young woman returns to her Crystal Lake cabin 1331 00:57:23,149 --> 00:57:24,233 in the dead of the night. 1332 00:57:24,525 --> 00:57:26,986 But in an unexpected twist, 1333 00:57:27,278 --> 00:57:29,572 it is revealed that Jason's intended victim 1334 00:57:29,864 --> 00:57:33,409 is really an FBI agent being used as human bait. 1335 00:57:33,701 --> 00:57:35,703 So what's funny about my character, Agent Marcus, 1336 00:57:35,995 --> 00:57:37,705 is that she's an FBI agent. 1337 00:57:37,997 --> 00:57:39,797 We try to make it like you wouldn't know that. 1338 00:57:40,082 --> 00:57:42,460 I mean, why would an FBI agent get naked in this cabin 1339 00:57:42,752 --> 00:57:44,545 to lure someone but, hey, 1340 00:57:44,837 --> 00:57:45,880 the girl's gotta do what the girl's gotta do. 1341 00:57:46,172 --> 00:57:48,716 And I remember Adam like hating my hair. 1342 00:57:49,008 --> 00:57:50,808 I'm like, 'Honey, if you're looking at my hair 1343 00:57:50,968 --> 00:57:52,678 and not my hooters, what are you doing?' 1344 00:57:52,970 --> 00:57:55,765 And we put every cliché 1345 00:57:56,057 --> 00:57:57,433 that had ever been in any of the FRIDAY THE 13TH movies 1346 00:57:57,725 --> 00:57:59,936 within a 5 minute section. 1347 00:58:00,227 --> 00:58:02,107 You'll see the mirror close, and he's not there. 1348 00:58:02,396 --> 00:58:03,522 I thought Adam was kind of brilliant 1349 00:58:03,814 --> 00:58:06,609 in the way he kind of just spoon fed you. 1350 00:58:06,901 --> 00:58:07,693 'Oh, you're okay, you're okay, okay. No, you aren't. 1351 00:58:07,985 --> 00:58:09,695 You're fucked. 1352 00:58:09,987 --> 00:58:12,239 I was able to bring Kane Hodder back 1353 00:58:12,531 --> 00:58:14,700 who had played Jason before, and he was basically 1354 00:58:14,992 --> 00:58:17,954 the only holdover that was left from the Paramount years. 1355 00:58:18,245 --> 00:58:20,164 It wasn't even a discussion. 1356 00:58:20,456 --> 00:58:22,625 It was, 'So who's got Kane Hodder's phone number?' 1357 00:58:22,917 --> 00:58:24,197 I really like working with Kane. 1358 00:58:24,460 --> 00:58:26,462 He took the part so seriously, 1359 00:58:26,754 --> 00:58:28,881 and he knew everything that Jason would or wouldn't do 1360 00:58:29,173 --> 00:58:31,050 so it made my job an awful lot easier. 1361 00:58:31,342 --> 00:58:34,845 It was probably the hardest makeup to work in, 1362 00:58:35,137 --> 00:58:37,682 and the least amount of days that I was in the makeup. 1363 00:58:37,974 --> 00:58:41,143 We really wanted to go with a sort of mutated, 1364 00:58:41,435 --> 00:58:44,605 diseased look where the head is sort of diseased and misshapen. 1365 00:58:44,897 --> 00:58:46,399 A lot more sort of Elephant Man. 1366 00:58:46,691 --> 00:58:48,943 The hockey mask had been on Jason so long 1367 00:58:49,235 --> 00:58:51,654 that the skin had grown around it in theory. 1368 00:58:51,946 --> 00:58:53,656 The hard thing was not being able to take the hockey mask off 1369 00:58:53,948 --> 00:58:55,700 between shots. 1370 00:58:55,992 --> 00:58:58,160 If you do something violent and, you know, 1371 00:58:58,452 --> 00:59:01,205 with a lot of energy, it takes your breath away. 1372 00:59:01,497 --> 00:59:01,998 You want to be able to take that thing off 1373 00:59:02,289 --> 00:59:03,582 and catch your breath. 1374 00:59:03,874 --> 00:59:05,274 I couldn't take it off between shots 1375 00:59:05,334 --> 00:59:07,878 so I had to catch my breath 1376 00:59:08,170 --> 00:59:10,047 while breathing my own exhaled air. 1377 00:59:10,339 --> 00:59:12,717 Not easy to do at all. 1378 00:59:13,009 --> 00:59:16,137 He's very method, and that's great for camera, 1379 00:59:16,429 --> 00:59:17,638 but boy, when you have to work with him, 1380 00:59:17,930 --> 00:59:19,140 it can be very daunting and in one scene, 1381 00:59:19,432 --> 00:59:21,225 he almost took my head off. 1382 00:59:21,517 --> 00:59:23,811 And I was supposed to run and jump around the car. 1383 00:59:24,103 --> 00:59:26,543 I literally jumped over the car because he scared me that bad. 1384 00:59:26,814 --> 00:59:28,614 And I remember coming back, and I was shaking. 1385 00:59:28,649 --> 00:59:29,608 I was like, 'Don't ever do that again. 1386 00:59:29,900 --> 00:59:30,985 Well, maybe one more time. That was kind of good. 1387 00:59:31,277 --> 00:59:33,070 Was that good, Adam?' 1388 00:59:33,362 --> 00:59:36,032 Jason has been done away with in so many different ways. 1389 00:59:36,323 --> 00:59:38,868 I mean, in previous movies, you know, he was set on fire. 1390 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:40,703 Of course, he's shot hundreds of times. 1391 00:59:40,995 --> 00:59:43,789 But blown up in JASON GOES TO HELL? 1392 00:59:44,081 --> 00:59:45,916 I thought all that could have been done to Jason had been done 1393 00:59:46,208 --> 00:59:48,169 but, lo and behold. 1394 00:59:48,461 --> 00:59:52,006 There are a lot of Jason fans who to this day are, you know, 1395 00:59:52,298 --> 00:59:54,467 pissed off at me for blowing up Jason 1396 00:59:54,759 --> 00:59:55,468 in the first ten minutes of the movie. 1397 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:56,760 They love that scene 1398 00:59:56,927 --> 00:59:58,847 but then they want Jason right back, right again. 1399 00:59:59,096 --> 01:00:00,723 And for me, I thought it was more fun 1400 01:00:01,015 --> 01:00:02,600 to have Kane Hodder actually in the film 1401 01:00:02,892 --> 01:00:04,435 making fun of Jason. 1402 01:00:04,727 --> 01:00:05,853 And he makes this comment about himself 1403 01:00:06,145 --> 01:00:07,646 when basically he says 1404 01:00:07,938 --> 01:00:09,023 He wasn't nothing but a big ol' pussy anyway. 1405 01:00:09,315 --> 01:00:12,443 And I love that. I love that! 1406 01:00:12,735 --> 01:00:14,445 Kane was a remarkable asset to the film 1407 01:00:14,737 --> 01:00:17,782 because I wanted all the other actors 1408 01:00:18,074 --> 01:00:19,784 who play the 'Jason Evil' in the movie 1409 01:00:20,076 --> 01:00:21,516 to have that same economy of movement 1410 01:00:21,619 --> 01:00:23,037 and that same language. 1411 01:00:23,329 --> 01:00:24,689 With not a single teenage character 1412 01:00:24,955 --> 01:00:26,791 featured in the script, 1413 01:00:27,083 --> 01:00:30,294 Sean Cunningham called upon an experienced ensemble 1414 01:00:30,586 --> 01:00:32,666 made up of recognizable faces from network television 1415 01:00:32,922 --> 01:00:34,799 including Erin Gray, 1416 01:00:35,091 --> 01:00:37,968 Steven Williams and John D. LeMay, 1417 01:00:38,260 --> 01:00:41,138 the only actor to play the male lead 1418 01:00:41,430 --> 01:00:42,431 in both the film and television incarnations 1419 01:00:42,723 --> 01:00:45,476 of FRIDAY THE 13TH. 1420 01:00:45,768 --> 01:00:48,938 We cast John D. LeMay because the director, Adam Marcus, 1421 01:00:49,230 --> 01:00:52,483 really felt comfortable having him 1422 01:00:52,775 --> 01:00:54,318 because he knew him from THE SERIES. 1423 01:00:54,610 --> 01:00:57,154 That was the reason I didn't want him to do it. 1424 01:00:57,446 --> 01:00:59,046 I married the daughter of Jason's sister. 1425 01:00:59,073 --> 01:01:01,450 Who knew? 1426 01:01:01,742 --> 01:01:03,828 But I'm happy to know that I am related 1427 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,872 to such a cultural icon. 1428 01:01:07,164 --> 01:01:10,084 Tracked by mysterious bounty hunter Creighton Duke, 1429 01:01:10,376 --> 01:01:13,170 it is revealed that Jason is attempting to be reborn 1430 01:01:13,462 --> 01:01:15,840 through a never-before-mentioned relative. 1431 01:01:16,132 --> 01:01:18,217 Thirteen years and nine films later, 1432 01:01:18,509 --> 01:01:22,054 we learn that Jason Voorhees had a sister. 1433 01:01:22,346 --> 01:01:24,306 The reasoning for another child 1434 01:01:24,598 --> 01:01:27,059 was that Pamela Voorhees 1435 01:01:27,351 --> 01:01:31,021 had had her daughter out of wedlock. 1436 01:01:31,313 --> 01:01:33,774 And Jason became sort of the jewel of her eye. 1437 01:01:34,066 --> 01:01:37,778 This was the only child she cared about. 1438 01:01:38,070 --> 01:01:42,366 She fixated on this boy and sent her daughter up for adoption. 1439 01:01:42,658 --> 01:01:43,738 That was the idea behind it. 1440 01:01:43,784 --> 01:01:45,786 I was the sister to Jason Voorhees. 1441 01:01:46,078 --> 01:01:48,205 They needed somebody who had the DNA, 1442 01:01:48,497 --> 01:01:49,832 and I guess it was me and then my daughter, of course, 1443 01:01:50,124 --> 01:01:52,001 and my granddaughter. 1444 01:01:52,293 --> 01:01:54,712 I played Baby Stephanie in JASON GOES TO HELL. 1445 01:01:55,004 --> 01:01:57,173 When I made the film, I was about 6 months old. 1446 01:01:57,464 --> 01:01:59,344 I've little to no memory about being in the film 1447 01:01:59,592 --> 01:02:00,926 considering I was so young 1448 01:02:01,218 --> 01:02:02,970 but when I got a little bit older, 1449 01:02:03,262 --> 01:02:05,055 my parents broke the news to me 1450 01:02:05,347 --> 01:02:06,473 that I was in a horror film 1451 01:02:06,765 --> 01:02:09,143 Here's beautiful 1452 01:02:09,435 --> 01:02:12,563 And I wasn't allowed to watch every scene, of course. 1453 01:02:12,855 --> 01:02:14,455 But I did watch the scenes that I was in. 1454 01:02:14,690 --> 01:02:16,483 I was like, 'Oh my gosh, that's me.' 1455 01:02:16,775 --> 01:02:18,694 And it was just a really crazy experience 1456 01:02:18,986 --> 01:02:20,279 to be able to watch myself. 1457 01:02:20,571 --> 01:02:22,531 I think the actors were amazing, 1458 01:02:22,823 --> 01:02:24,575 especially John LeMay and Steven Williams 1459 01:02:24,867 --> 01:02:27,536 who was out of his mind and brilliant. 1460 01:02:27,828 --> 01:02:30,915 The finger breaking scene was one of my favorites actually. 1461 01:02:31,207 --> 01:02:33,647 Jason needs to be reborn again, and he needs Jessica to do it. 1462 01:02:33,751 --> 01:02:36,086 Just because it was so weird and twisted. 1463 01:02:36,378 --> 01:02:38,098 I mean, here's this guy fondling my fingers. 1464 01:02:38,255 --> 01:02:41,008 Ooow! fuck! 1465 01:02:41,300 --> 01:02:42,593 Amazingly I was able to still beat Jason up 1466 01:02:42,885 --> 01:02:45,930 at the end with my broken hand. 1467 01:02:46,222 --> 01:02:47,848 Everything about JASON GOES TO HELL, 1468 01:02:48,140 --> 01:02:49,600 especially the scene 1469 01:02:49,892 --> 01:02:52,394 between Creighton Duke and Steven Culp. 1470 01:02:52,686 --> 01:02:53,729 Robert: I want you to say the first thing 1471 01:02:54,021 --> 01:02:54,563 that comes to your mind. Okay? 1472 01:02:54,855 --> 01:02:56,023 Creighton: Okay. 1473 01:02:56,315 --> 01:02:58,025 Robert: Jason Voorhees. 1474 01:02:58,317 --> 01:03:00,569 Creighton: Well, that makes me think of a little girl 1475 01:03:00,861 --> 01:03:03,489 in a pink dress sticking a hot dog through a donut. 1476 01:03:03,781 --> 01:03:05,616 It was always about, 1477 01:03:05,908 --> 01:03:07,368 'How can we crack each other up?' 1478 01:03:07,660 --> 01:03:08,827 It was like two guys on SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE 1479 01:03:09,119 --> 01:03:10,246 trying to get the other guy to laugh. 1480 01:03:10,537 --> 01:03:12,748 After an early test screening, 1481 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,250 New Line requested that several new sequences be added 1482 01:03:14,541 --> 01:03:16,502 to the film, 1483 01:03:16,794 --> 01:03:18,794 including one that ranks as one of the most violent 1484 01:03:19,046 --> 01:03:21,674 and graphic in the series' history. 1485 01:03:21,966 --> 01:03:24,426 I play a camper named Luke who's going camping 1486 01:03:24,718 --> 01:03:25,970 with two beautiful ladies. 1487 01:03:26,262 --> 01:03:26,720 Luke: We're going to Camp Crystal Lake. 1488 01:03:27,012 --> 01:03:28,597 Steven: Oh yeah? 1489 01:03:28,889 --> 01:03:30,516 Planning on smoking a little dope, 1490 01:03:30,808 --> 01:03:33,978 having a little premarital sex, and getting slaughtered? 1491 01:03:34,270 --> 01:03:37,064 The murder of the couple in the tent 1492 01:03:37,356 --> 01:03:40,818 was something that we shot after the film had wrapped. 1493 01:03:41,110 --> 01:03:43,070 I was petitioning to have both ladies in the tent. 1494 01:03:43,153 --> 01:03:44,196 I thought it would be fun. Why not? 1495 01:03:44,488 --> 01:03:46,615 And it was one of those sequences 1496 01:03:46,907 --> 01:03:49,535 where they felt they needed a really violent kill 1497 01:03:49,827 --> 01:03:51,328 that had a lot of impact. 1498 01:03:51,620 --> 01:03:53,330 So we started our scene with these kids 1499 01:03:53,622 --> 01:03:55,207 who are pretty lit up. 1500 01:03:55,499 --> 01:03:56,959 They'd been skinny dipping. 1501 01:03:57,251 --> 01:03:59,962 The run into the scene, they go to have sex 1502 01:04:00,254 --> 01:04:04,717 and what happens is they choose not to use a condom. 1503 01:04:05,009 --> 01:04:06,844 Oh, God, Debbie, I hate these things. 1504 01:04:07,136 --> 01:04:10,097 And when the killer steps on that condom wrapper, 1505 01:04:10,389 --> 01:04:12,349 on that unused condom, 1506 01:04:12,641 --> 01:04:13,100 the audience went out of their minds. 1507 01:04:13,392 --> 01:04:16,312 Every screening. 1508 01:04:16,603 --> 01:04:19,106 For actress Michelle Clunie, 1509 01:04:19,398 --> 01:04:21,358 later known for her role in the groundbreaking television series 1510 01:04:21,650 --> 01:04:23,652 QUEER AS FOLK, 1511 01:04:23,944 --> 01:04:25,824 the scene put her in a compromising situation... 1512 01:04:26,113 --> 01:04:28,907 In more ways than one. 1513 01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:32,745 Michelle and he had been dating and had broken up 1514 01:04:33,037 --> 01:04:35,664 right before we shot that scene. 1515 01:04:35,956 --> 01:04:37,796 And then we showed up on set and there we were, 1516 01:04:37,916 --> 01:04:39,335 naked together for a couple days. 1517 01:04:39,626 --> 01:04:41,712 So she had to do this huge love scene 1518 01:04:42,004 --> 01:04:45,007 with her ex-boyfriend, and they were both completely nude. 1519 01:04:45,299 --> 01:04:46,842 You're on a mattress on the floor, 1520 01:04:47,134 --> 01:04:50,095 inside a fake tent with all these guys around, 1521 01:04:50,387 --> 01:04:52,587 and you've got to sort of create some sort of chemistry, 1522 01:04:52,681 --> 01:04:54,141 some sort of intimacy between you 1523 01:04:54,433 --> 01:04:55,753 which doesn't feel natural at all. 1524 01:04:55,976 --> 01:04:57,519 And then when they finally kill her, 1525 01:04:57,811 --> 01:05:00,022 they put this fake Clunie on top of me. 1526 01:05:00,314 --> 01:05:02,524 Michelle came up to K.N.B., 1527 01:05:02,816 --> 01:05:07,404 and we actually cast her in that position. 1528 01:05:07,696 --> 01:05:09,740 She's on top of the guy and they're having sex, 1529 01:05:10,032 --> 01:05:12,409 and, all of a sudden, out of the middle of her chest, 1530 01:05:12,701 --> 01:05:14,036 the road sign pops out and blood sprays everywhere. 1531 01:05:14,328 --> 01:05:16,580 (screams) 1532 01:05:16,872 --> 01:05:19,458 Oh shit! 1533 01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:21,126 And then it's torn through her shoulder blade 1534 01:05:21,418 --> 01:05:24,088 where she flops open. 1535 01:05:24,380 --> 01:05:27,966 And it was the second dummy that had been already pre-cut 1536 01:05:28,258 --> 01:05:30,552 with the torso cut in half, 1537 01:05:30,844 --> 01:05:32,679 and it had a little mechanism in it 1538 01:05:32,971 --> 01:05:34,765 so that it could sort of flower open. 1539 01:05:35,057 --> 01:05:36,141 And they're spraying blood at me with a fire extinguisher, 1540 01:05:36,433 --> 01:05:38,769 I remember. 1541 01:05:39,061 --> 01:05:40,187 It's a little sad that today that probably would have been 1542 01:05:40,479 --> 01:05:41,605 a digital shot of the thing coming out, 1543 01:05:41,897 --> 01:05:43,177 and they would have animated it. 1544 01:05:43,232 --> 01:05:45,109 Richard Gant who was playing Jason 1545 01:05:45,401 --> 01:05:47,903 was supposed to at some point crush my head. 1546 01:05:48,195 --> 01:05:50,697 And I think that they ran out of time and money, 1547 01:05:50,989 --> 01:05:53,283 and they, and so they didn't build a cast of my head. 1548 01:05:53,575 --> 01:05:56,578 And they cut out right as his head's coming down, I think, 1549 01:05:56,870 --> 01:05:58,372 and they cut to an exterior of, 1550 01:05:58,664 --> 01:05:59,665 and we hear me screaming and then crush. 1551 01:05:59,957 --> 01:06:02,418 [Off screen screaming] 1552 01:06:02,709 --> 01:06:05,212 Unsafe sex equals death, I was totally cool with. 1553 01:06:05,504 --> 01:06:06,797 What was amazing about that 1554 01:06:07,089 --> 01:06:08,507 was that the Wall Street Journal, 1555 01:06:08,799 --> 01:06:10,634 when they talked about JASON GOES TO HELL, 1556 01:06:10,926 --> 01:06:13,887 they called the film a return to morality in cinema 1557 01:06:14,179 --> 01:06:16,557 because of that scene. 1558 01:06:16,849 --> 01:06:20,269 The thing about Adam Marcus was he was really behind, 1559 01:06:20,561 --> 01:06:24,314 100% behind shooting every gag to its fullest. 1560 01:06:24,606 --> 01:06:28,610 [sounds of sharpening blade] 1561 01:06:28,902 --> 01:06:31,989 The reason for the homoerotic shaving scene 1562 01:06:32,281 --> 01:06:35,701 in JASON GOES TO HELL was that I knew 15 years later 1563 01:06:35,993 --> 01:06:37,828 everybody would be asking me 1564 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,956 about the homoerotic shaving scene in JASON GOES TO HELL. 1565 01:06:41,248 --> 01:06:43,459 Again, I found these movies to be really pretty sexist. 1566 01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:45,294 It's always women in the shower 1567 01:06:45,586 --> 01:06:48,547 soaping up just before they get whacked. 1568 01:06:48,839 --> 01:06:50,424 And I thought, 'You know what? 1569 01:06:50,716 --> 01:06:52,759 I'm going to make the first one of these 1570 01:06:53,051 --> 01:06:56,638 where there's as many naked men as there are naked women. 1571 01:06:56,930 --> 01:06:58,770 Let's even the score. Something for the ladies. 1572 01:06:59,016 --> 01:07:01,018 Not only is it homoerotic, 1573 01:07:01,310 --> 01:07:05,981 but I have a middle-aged guy naked on the table. 1574 01:07:06,273 --> 01:07:08,066 I don't have Brad Pitt on the table. 1575 01:07:08,358 --> 01:07:12,988 I have an interracial kiss at the end of the scene. 1576 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,033 I mean, everything about it was a taboo. 1577 01:07:16,325 --> 01:07:18,911 There's not a scene like it in any other Jason movie 1578 01:07:19,203 --> 01:07:22,289 or really in any other movie I can think of. 1579 01:07:22,581 --> 01:07:23,707 I don't know if that's good or bad but 1580 01:07:23,999 --> 01:07:26,710 Filming my death scene was lots of fun. 1581 01:07:27,002 --> 01:07:29,505 I remember in acting class, 1582 01:07:29,796 --> 01:07:31,715 I was good at being dead, 1583 01:07:32,007 --> 01:07:34,551 so I was able to bring that to FRIDAY THE 13TH. 1584 01:07:34,843 --> 01:07:37,846 And it was kind of fun going to work with a knife in my back 1585 01:07:38,138 --> 01:07:41,350 and pretending... l've been killed. 1586 01:07:41,642 --> 01:07:43,977 [screaming] 1587 01:07:44,269 --> 01:07:45,771 In Joey B's restaurant, 1588 01:07:46,063 --> 01:07:47,898 the carnage was fabulous. 1589 01:07:48,190 --> 01:07:49,775 Bodies everywhere. 1590 01:07:50,067 --> 01:07:52,236 It was really bloody and violent. 1591 01:07:52,528 --> 01:07:54,988 I just loved watching Rusty work. 1592 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,825 She was great at improving... 1593 01:07:59,117 --> 01:08:00,827 This makes a whole new patty, hence, 1594 01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:02,454 the two-for-one burger sale. 1595 01:08:02,746 --> 01:08:04,289 And every time she was in a scene, 1596 01:08:04,581 --> 01:08:06,041 I was just mesmerized by her. 1597 01:08:06,333 --> 01:08:09,503 When I have my gun on John and Kari 1598 01:08:09,795 --> 01:08:12,548 defending the baby, the line was 1599 01:08:12,839 --> 01:08:13,549 'Nobody's going to touch that baby, ' 1600 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,926 but I decided to say... 1601 01:08:16,218 --> 01:08:17,469 Nobody's gonna touch that fuckin' ray of sunshine! 1602 01:08:17,761 --> 01:08:19,429 In Rusty Schwimmer's case, 1603 01:08:19,721 --> 01:08:21,056 she got punched in the face. 1604 01:08:21,348 --> 01:08:24,893 Poor Leslie. He got dumped in a fry vat. 1605 01:08:25,185 --> 01:08:29,856 And I know from friends that there was a big cheer 1606 01:08:30,148 --> 01:08:32,693 that let up when I was punched in the face 1607 01:08:32,985 --> 01:08:34,570 because they wanted me to shut up. 1608 01:08:34,861 --> 01:08:38,448 In an attempt to finally subvert the MPAA, 1609 01:08:38,740 --> 01:08:40,909 the filmmakers planned to release JASON GOES TO HELL 1610 01:08:41,201 --> 01:08:43,745 as both an R-rated theatrical cut 1611 01:08:44,037 --> 01:08:46,123 and an unrated home video version. 1612 01:08:46,415 --> 01:08:49,251 This allowed the K.N.B. Effects team 1613 01:08:49,543 --> 01:08:51,461 the freedom to create some of the bloodiest 1614 01:08:51,753 --> 01:08:53,880 and most over-the-top gags ever attempted 1615 01:08:54,172 --> 01:08:55,757 in a FRIDAY THE 13TH film. 1616 01:08:56,049 --> 01:08:57,509 As a horror film back then, 1617 01:08:57,801 --> 01:09:00,053 you always went in pretty gore-heavy 1618 01:09:00,345 --> 01:09:01,722 expecting to be cut back. 1619 01:09:02,014 --> 01:09:03,515 I think that the whole point was, 1620 01:09:03,807 --> 01:09:04,967 throw all that stuff in there 1621 01:09:05,225 --> 01:09:07,311 and then go to the ratings board, 1622 01:09:07,603 --> 01:09:09,021 and if we can't get it, then we'll do the unrated version 1623 01:09:09,313 --> 01:09:10,753 and give the audience what they want. 1624 01:09:10,939 --> 01:09:12,649 Eventually, of course, 1625 01:09:12,941 --> 01:09:15,736 the evil gets back into the body of a Voorhees. 1626 01:09:16,028 --> 01:09:18,030 Steven: That part about being reborn 1627 01:09:18,322 --> 01:09:18,822 through a Voorhees woman, does it have to be a living woman? 1628 01:09:19,114 --> 01:09:21,325 Duke: No. 1629 01:09:21,617 --> 01:09:22,618 Steven: That thing's in the basement with Jessica's mother. 1630 01:09:22,909 --> 01:09:26,163 And Jason is reborn into his hulking magnificent form. 1631 01:09:26,455 --> 01:09:28,832 Jason's rebirth may have thrilled fans, 1632 01:09:29,124 --> 01:09:31,251 but it did not sit as well with actress Erin Gray, 1633 01:09:31,543 --> 01:09:33,795 who was not present when an insert shot 1634 01:09:34,087 --> 01:09:36,757 was added to the film at the last minute. 1635 01:09:37,049 --> 01:09:39,926 The first time that I was made aware of this scene 1636 01:09:40,218 --> 01:09:41,498 was actually in the movie theater 1637 01:09:41,678 --> 01:09:45,307 when I saw it, and I gasped loudly. 1638 01:09:45,599 --> 01:09:47,225 I just thought it was inappropriate. 1639 01:09:47,517 --> 01:09:48,727 It was not something that I would have agreed to. 1640 01:09:49,019 --> 01:09:50,604 I actually felt violated. 1641 01:09:50,896 --> 01:09:53,065 It's the one thing in any scene, 1642 01:09:53,357 --> 01:09:54,733 in any movie that I've done 1643 01:09:55,025 --> 01:09:57,027 that I just find very distasteful, 1644 01:09:57,319 --> 01:09:58,639 although I've forgiven Sean since. 1645 01:09:58,695 --> 01:10:01,073 I do love Sean personally. 1646 01:10:01,365 --> 01:10:02,991 The truth is, what I was trying to do 1647 01:10:03,283 --> 01:10:06,411 was use Jason, the figure of Jason, 1648 01:10:06,703 --> 01:10:08,955 as almost a prize for the audience. 1649 01:10:09,247 --> 01:10:09,915 Duke: Tonight, my friend... 1650 01:10:10,207 --> 01:10:11,541 You will... 1651 01:10:11,833 --> 01:10:12,459 Steven: Jessica! Duke: Die! 1652 01:10:12,751 --> 01:10:13,960 [bone snapping] 1653 01:10:14,252 --> 01:10:15,962 Bringing him back at the end, 1654 01:10:16,254 --> 01:10:22,135 I wanted it to feel like your friend came back into the movie. 1655 01:10:22,427 --> 01:10:25,722 John's character took a tremendous amount of abuse. 1656 01:10:26,014 --> 01:10:28,433 We had a helluva fight out in the front of the house. 1657 01:10:28,725 --> 01:10:30,394 I did put up a pretty good fight. 1658 01:10:30,686 --> 01:10:33,105 I take great pride in my backhand to Jason 1659 01:10:33,397 --> 01:10:35,816 at the very end of the film. 1660 01:10:36,108 --> 01:10:36,733 And, by the way, you might not know this. 1661 01:10:37,025 --> 01:10:38,610 I'm Jason. 1662 01:10:38,902 --> 01:10:39,277 All of Jason's vocals, that's me. 1663 01:10:39,569 --> 01:10:47,569 Because I work cheap. 1664 01:10:48,995 --> 01:10:50,205 Kari's character was fairly tough too. 1665 01:10:50,497 --> 01:10:52,457 Unfortunately, I didn't get to fight her 1666 01:10:52,749 --> 01:10:54,543 as much as I would like, 1667 01:10:54,835 --> 01:10:56,670 but we still had some good scenes 1668 01:10:56,962 --> 01:10:58,672 where she stabbed me with the knife and everything. 1669 01:10:58,964 --> 01:11:00,424 Interestingly enough, at the end of the movie, 1670 01:11:00,716 --> 01:11:04,511 it was always scripted as a big, lightning-filled climax 1671 01:11:04,803 --> 01:11:07,389 with the skies opening up and all this celestial activity. 1672 01:11:07,681 --> 01:11:09,516 K.N.B. had a very elaborate sequence 1673 01:11:09,808 --> 01:11:11,528 designed for that with all kinds of puppets, 1674 01:11:11,810 --> 01:11:13,603 and we had a very elaborate miniature 1675 01:11:13,895 --> 01:11:15,897 which wound up not being used because of technical problems. 1676 01:11:16,189 --> 01:11:18,358 These branches or these roots of these trees 1677 01:11:18,650 --> 01:11:21,153 were supposed to suck Jason down into hell. 1678 01:11:21,445 --> 01:11:23,905 And we were all underneath the table puppetering these things. 1679 01:11:24,197 --> 01:11:25,917 And they were going to do these aerial shots 1680 01:11:25,991 --> 01:11:28,702 and big camera moves going around the two of us 1681 01:11:28,994 --> 01:11:30,787 as we squared off. 1682 01:11:31,079 --> 01:11:32,622 Originally there was one extra creature at the end 1683 01:11:32,914 --> 01:11:35,000 which was a demon baby 1684 01:11:35,292 --> 01:11:39,755 that they had, I believe, an amputee in a prosthetic suit 1685 01:11:40,046 --> 01:11:41,715 that had a big long tail and 1686 01:11:42,007 --> 01:11:43,884 ultimately that wound up being excised. 1687 01:11:44,176 --> 01:11:47,554 This is my doll that Bob Kurtzman gave me 1688 01:11:47,846 --> 01:11:49,765 after the shoot. 1689 01:11:50,056 --> 01:11:53,101 They didn't use it so yeah, a little keepsake for me. 1690 01:11:53,393 --> 01:11:56,146 But there was one parting shot yet to come. 1691 01:11:56,438 --> 01:11:58,732 One that would set the stage 1692 01:11:59,024 --> 01:12:01,735 for Jason's long-anticipated face-off 1693 01:12:02,027 --> 01:12:05,071 with A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET'S Freddy Krueger. 1694 01:12:05,363 --> 01:12:07,324 I suddenly said, 'Wait a second. 1695 01:12:07,616 --> 01:12:09,618 We've got a chance for the ultimate in-joke in this movie. 1696 01:12:09,910 --> 01:12:11,036 We're with New Line. 1697 01:12:11,328 --> 01:12:12,871 New Line owns Freddy. 1698 01:12:13,163 --> 01:12:14,998 'What are we doing? 1699 01:12:15,290 --> 01:12:16,166 Like, that's the end of our movie.' 1700 01:12:16,458 --> 01:12:18,835 And they fell in love with the idea. 1701 01:12:19,127 --> 01:12:22,047 I mean, it was like instantly, 'Oh my God, that's great.' 1702 01:12:22,339 --> 01:12:23,507 In the end where Freddy's hand comes out of the ground 1703 01:12:23,799 --> 01:12:25,133 and grabs the hockey mask, 1704 01:12:25,425 --> 01:12:26,985 it was my hand wearing the Freddy glove, 1705 01:12:27,177 --> 01:12:29,179 grabbing the mask. 1706 01:12:29,471 --> 01:12:33,183 And this is your final chance... to see it! 1707 01:12:33,475 --> 01:12:36,812 JASON GOES TO HELL THE FINAL FRIDAY 1708 01:12:37,103 --> 01:12:40,273 opened on Friday, August 13, 1993 1709 01:12:40,565 --> 01:12:43,735 to a respectable $7.5 million in its opening weekend. 1710 01:12:44,027 --> 01:12:46,988 To this day, JASON GOES TO HELL 1711 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:48,698 remains one of the most hotly-debated installments 1712 01:12:48,990 --> 01:12:51,201 of the series. 1713 01:12:51,493 --> 01:12:56,456 And once again, THE FINAL FRIDAY wasn't final after all. 1714 01:12:56,748 --> 01:12:58,375 We were trying to do something different. 1715 01:12:58,667 --> 01:13:01,503 Some people really like it for that and forgive its faults. 1716 01:13:01,795 --> 01:13:04,297 Other people only see it for its faults and, you know, 1717 01:13:04,589 --> 01:13:05,715 say there should be all Jason all the time. 1718 01:13:06,007 --> 01:13:07,884 Jason has to be in the film. 1719 01:13:08,176 --> 01:13:10,887 I think that was one of the biggest let-down for the fans. 1720 01:13:11,179 --> 01:13:15,058 It's possible that the concept jumped the shark on some level. 1721 01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:16,059 At the time they were trying to reinvent and figure out 1722 01:13:16,351 --> 01:13:18,520 how to keep the franchise going, 1723 01:13:18,812 --> 01:13:19,646 and how to keep people interested. 1724 01:13:19,938 --> 01:13:21,273 So I respect that. 1725 01:13:21,565 --> 01:13:23,149 I think we did something that was bold. 1726 01:13:23,441 --> 01:13:25,569 I know there are people who are upset by that, 1727 01:13:25,861 --> 01:13:28,113 but my response to that has always been, 'You know what? 1728 01:13:28,405 --> 01:13:30,490 There are 7 of those movies you can rent. 1729 01:13:30,782 --> 01:13:32,862 You can see a whole lot of Jason in the hockey mask.' 1730 01:13:32,909 --> 01:13:34,452 You have to deliver a certain story, 1731 01:13:34,744 --> 01:13:36,580 and that story had better be consistent 1732 01:13:36,872 --> 01:13:39,040 with the ones that preceded it, 1733 01:13:39,332 --> 01:13:42,752 and Jason better be consistent with what happened beforehand. 1734 01:13:43,044 --> 01:13:44,804 So this is not a place where you want to say, 1735 01:13:44,838 --> 01:13:46,214 'l've got an idea. 1736 01:13:46,506 --> 01:13:47,966 Let's have Jason do body swapping.' 1737 01:13:48,258 --> 01:13:50,427 Not so good. 1738 01:13:50,719 --> 01:13:51,928 The Jason audience is a smart audience. 1739 01:13:52,220 --> 01:13:54,014 Not just about Jason movies, 1740 01:13:54,306 --> 01:13:56,141 which they will quote you chapter and verse. 1741 01:13:56,433 --> 01:13:57,893 They know more about my movie than I know about it. 1742 01:13:58,184 --> 01:13:59,978 The truth is, true horror fans 1743 01:14:00,270 --> 01:14:02,564 know every genre of cinema, 1744 01:14:02,856 --> 01:14:05,137 they just happen to know horror better than anything else. 1745 01:14:05,233 --> 01:14:07,277 Yes, are they going to blog incessantly 1746 01:14:07,569 --> 01:14:09,404 about the color of someone's suit? Sure. 1747 01:14:09,696 --> 01:14:12,365 But ultimately, for me, 1748 01:14:12,657 --> 01:14:14,326 every time I see somebody blogging 1749 01:14:14,618 --> 01:14:16,538 about JASON GOES TO HELL or about, quite frankly, 1750 01:14:16,828 --> 01:14:18,455 about any of the FRIDAY THE 13TH films, 1751 01:14:18,747 --> 01:14:21,750 I feel really lucky that they care enough 1752 01:14:22,042 --> 01:14:23,919 to actually spend the time and energy 1753 01:14:24,210 --> 01:14:26,254 talking about this character. 1754 01:14:26,546 --> 01:14:31,426 For me, I really learned to always respect every audience. 1755 01:14:31,718 --> 01:14:33,261 And I think that's probably the most important thing I learned 1756 01:14:33,553 --> 01:14:38,553 from Jason. 1757 01:14:48,652 --> 01:14:51,529 Following the crowd-pleasing coda of JASON GOES TO HELL, 1758 01:14:51,821 --> 01:14:53,865 it appeared that the long-anticipated showdown 1759 01:14:54,157 --> 01:14:55,825 between Jason and Freddy 1760 01:14:56,117 --> 01:14:58,828 was finally about to become a reality. 1761 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,040 But as the project remained stalled at New Line Cinema 1762 01:15:02,332 --> 01:15:04,250 throughout the 1990s, 1763 01:15:04,542 --> 01:15:08,380 Sean Cunningham decided to give fans one more FRIDAY. 1764 01:15:08,672 --> 01:15:11,091 We had been in development hell 1765 01:15:11,383 --> 01:15:13,468 on FREDDY VS. JASON for years, 1766 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,262 and finally Jim Isaac, 1767 01:15:16,554 --> 01:15:18,848 who's the director of JASON X, said, 'Well, 1768 01:15:19,140 --> 01:15:20,725 if we're just waiting on FREDDY/JASON, 1769 01:15:21,017 --> 01:15:22,435 let's just make another Jason film.' 1770 01:15:22,727 --> 01:15:25,814 So Todd Farmer, Jimmy and I sat down 1771 01:15:26,106 --> 01:15:30,276 and just started coming up with ideas for a new Jason. 1772 01:15:30,568 --> 01:15:32,153 We didn't want to do anything that was going to screw 1773 01:15:32,445 --> 01:15:34,447 FREDDY VS. JASON. 1774 01:15:34,739 --> 01:15:35,448 So the way to stay away from that was to push him 1775 01:15:35,740 --> 01:15:37,575 into the future. 1776 01:15:37,867 --> 01:15:39,160 I mean, that was just kind of thrown out as kind of 1777 01:15:39,452 --> 01:15:41,663 like a gag at first 1778 01:15:41,955 --> 01:15:43,498 because that's, you know, that's where horror films go to die, 1779 01:15:43,790 --> 01:15:47,168 like LEPRECHAUN or HELLRAISER, l guess. 1780 01:15:47,460 --> 01:15:49,963 You know, space is kind of the final frontier. 1781 01:15:50,255 --> 01:15:52,215 Armed with a budget of $13 million, 1782 01:15:52,507 --> 01:15:55,135 Isaac took his team to Toronto 1783 01:15:55,427 --> 01:15:59,806 and set out to make the most ambitious FRIDAY THE 13TH yet. 1784 01:16:00,098 --> 01:16:04,352 JASON X takes place 400 years in the future. 1785 01:16:04,644 --> 01:16:07,856 Jason has been captured by the military, 1786 01:16:08,148 --> 01:16:10,817 and they really don't know what to do with him. 1787 01:16:11,109 --> 01:16:12,861 There's somebody in charge of the operation 1788 01:16:13,153 --> 01:16:18,533 who thinks that he should be rozen. 1789 01:16:18,825 --> 01:16:21,305 The high ranking official comes in, played by David Cronenberg, 1790 01:16:21,536 --> 01:16:24,539 and says, 'No, we're not going to freeze him today as planned. 1791 01:16:24,831 --> 01:16:26,249 We're going to take him away and study him.' 1792 01:16:26,541 --> 01:16:29,335 His unique ability 1793 01:16:29,627 --> 01:16:31,504 to regenerate lost and damaged tissue, 1794 01:16:31,796 --> 01:16:33,965 it just cries out for more research. 1795 01:16:34,257 --> 01:16:36,426 David Cronenberg supplied a lot of his own crew 1796 01:16:36,718 --> 01:16:38,970 for Jim Isaac. 1797 01:16:39,262 --> 01:16:41,514 Our first AD was, you know, David's AD. 1798 01:16:41,806 --> 01:16:43,641 Stephan Dupris, who I've worked for years 1799 01:16:43,933 --> 01:16:45,852 Who did NAKED LUNCH. 1800 01:16:46,144 --> 01:16:47,228 He's got an Academy Award for THE FLY 1801 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,105 and a lot of David Cronenberg films. 1802 01:16:49,397 --> 01:16:50,398 He's an amazing makeup effects artist. 1803 01:16:50,690 --> 01:16:53,234 The rumor going around set was Cronenberg 1804 01:16:53,526 --> 01:16:55,807 wanted to be in the movie only if he got killed on camera. 1805 01:16:55,945 --> 01:16:57,739 That was the deal. 1806 01:16:58,031 --> 01:17:00,283 They dropped their guard a bit and, of course, 1807 01:17:00,575 --> 01:17:01,855 Jason gets free and creates havoc 1808 01:17:02,118 --> 01:17:04,162 but ends up getting frozen anyway. 1809 01:17:04,454 --> 01:17:07,749 In the future, earth has been completely destroyed. 1810 01:17:08,041 --> 01:17:09,667 It's a wasteland. 1811 01:17:09,959 --> 01:17:12,879 And a group of science students, kind of loser kids, 1812 01:17:13,171 --> 01:17:14,881 go on this field trip. 1813 01:17:15,173 --> 01:17:17,967 We arrive doing some archeology 1814 01:17:18,259 --> 01:17:21,054 and discover a frozen Jason Voorhees, 1815 01:17:21,346 --> 01:17:23,598 and we don't know what trouble we're in for, 1816 01:17:23,890 --> 01:17:25,266 but of course the audience does. 1817 01:17:25,558 --> 01:17:27,852 Really it came down to, you know, 1818 01:17:28,144 --> 01:17:32,398 kids basically having sex or drugs are going to die. 1819 01:17:32,690 --> 01:17:35,276 Even four hundred years in the future, 1820 01:17:35,568 --> 01:17:39,322 neither Jason, nor his appetite for sex-crazed victims, 1821 01:17:39,614 --> 01:17:41,491 has evolved. 1822 01:17:41,783 --> 01:17:43,223 I think in the future maybe teenagers 1823 01:17:43,493 --> 01:17:46,621 are a little more sexual. 1824 01:17:46,913 --> 01:17:49,833 Of course, some wonderful devices that I get to use 1825 01:17:50,125 --> 01:17:51,485 for such things as nipple tweaking. 1826 01:17:51,751 --> 01:17:54,170 So, yeah, it's all in there. 1827 01:17:54,462 --> 01:17:56,047 It's all in the curriculum. 1828 01:17:56,339 --> 01:17:59,384 The easiest, most fun work you can get as an actor 1829 01:17:59,676 --> 01:18:02,804 because you're basically just running from a monster 1830 01:18:03,096 --> 01:18:05,849 until he catches up with you and kills you 1831 01:18:06,141 --> 01:18:07,142 and hopefully you get to make outwith a hot chick 1832 01:18:07,433 --> 01:18:08,560 along the way. 1833 01:18:08,852 --> 01:18:11,646 Which is one of the things that somehow 1834 01:18:11,938 --> 01:18:15,567 manages to sort of stir Jason's soul and re-awaken him. 1835 01:18:15,859 --> 01:18:18,019 Certainly the way it's edited, it kind of implies that, 1836 01:18:18,194 --> 01:18:19,834 that it was just too much for him to take, 1837 01:18:19,988 --> 01:18:21,781 and he just had to rise up and put a stop 1838 01:18:22,073 --> 01:18:23,700 to all this crazy teenage love. 1839 01:18:23,992 --> 01:18:25,869 One of the important things in a Jason FRIDAY THE 13TH film 1840 01:18:26,161 --> 01:18:28,163 is to be true to Jason's character. 1841 01:18:28,454 --> 01:18:30,999 I think that's where Kane comes in. 1842 01:18:31,291 --> 01:18:35,253 My first impression of the script of JASON X was like, 1843 01:18:35,545 --> 01:18:37,881 'I don't know. Jason in space?' 1844 01:18:38,173 --> 01:18:39,007 I didn't want to make it hokey. 1845 01:18:39,299 --> 01:18:41,718 He took it seriously. 1846 01:18:42,010 --> 01:18:44,429 He took playing Jason very, very seriously. 1847 01:18:44,721 --> 01:18:46,281 Even though the location and everything, 1848 01:18:46,472 --> 01:18:47,098 all the surroundings, were different, 1849 01:18:47,390 --> 01:18:50,059 I just tried to keep him the same 1850 01:18:50,351 --> 01:18:51,477 as I had always done before and I guess, you know, 1851 01:18:51,769 --> 01:18:53,396 it worked out. 1852 01:18:53,688 --> 01:18:55,064 He definitely made sure that we were all kind of a little bit, 1853 01:18:55,356 --> 01:18:58,568 sort of like intimidated by him. 1854 01:18:58,860 --> 01:19:01,946 I think he had a tattoo that said 'Kill' in his lower lip. 1855 01:19:02,238 --> 01:19:03,031 I think he definitely goes to a dark place 1856 01:19:03,323 --> 01:19:04,824 when he plays the role. 1857 01:19:05,116 --> 01:19:07,202 He was also very safe when we were, you know, 1858 01:19:07,493 --> 01:19:08,995 when we were struggling. 1859 01:19:09,287 --> 01:19:11,873 He made sure that we worked out how he was going to hold me 1860 01:19:12,165 --> 01:19:13,499 so that I could fight without actually getting hurt. 1861 01:19:13,791 --> 01:19:17,378 I did my own stunt when he threw me against the window. 1862 01:19:17,670 --> 01:19:19,005 Which I thought was great because, you know, 1863 01:19:19,297 --> 01:19:22,550 sticking a girl's head in cryogenic fluid 1864 01:19:22,842 --> 01:19:26,638 and smashed it on the counter. Very creative. 1865 01:19:26,930 --> 01:19:30,225 I had to plunge my face into water and scream 1866 01:19:30,516 --> 01:19:33,853 and then hold my breath and just wait 1867 01:19:34,145 --> 01:19:35,146 because then they ended up putting, you know, 1868 01:19:35,438 --> 01:19:36,898 all the CGI over the top. 1869 01:19:37,190 --> 01:19:38,590 Technically our most difficult kill. 1870 01:19:38,816 --> 01:19:41,277 And we spent a lot of time on that, prepping it. 1871 01:19:41,569 --> 01:19:43,029 I think they made 10 heads, 1872 01:19:43,321 --> 01:19:45,240 but it was really, really creepy. 1873 01:19:45,531 --> 01:19:48,534 All these heads lined up of, you know, me screaming. 1874 01:19:48,826 --> 01:19:52,080 L've never seen a crew and a cast gather for an event 1875 01:19:52,372 --> 01:19:53,831 just to watch that effect. 1876 01:19:54,123 --> 01:19:56,918 Everybody just thought that was a great one. 1877 01:19:57,210 --> 01:19:59,254 We knew from way back then that that was going to be a good kill 1878 01:19:59,545 --> 01:20:01,881 and it stands the test of time. 1879 01:20:02,173 --> 01:20:07,136 Apparently MYTHBUSTERS a few years ago tested my death 1880 01:20:07,428 --> 01:20:10,515 to see if they could actually freeze a head in liquid nitrogen 1881 01:20:10,807 --> 01:20:12,558 and then smash it. 1882 01:20:12,850 --> 01:20:14,602 Guy: Absolutely nothing like the movie. 1883 01:20:14,894 --> 01:20:15,353 Girl: So I guess this one's busted. 1884 01:20:15,645 --> 01:20:18,564 Originally in the script 1885 01:20:18,856 --> 01:20:20,024 my death scene was going to be that he was going to somehow 1886 01:20:20,316 --> 01:20:23,194 use the sliding doors to cut me in half, 1887 01:20:23,486 --> 01:20:26,406 and I was really stoked about that happening. 1888 01:20:26,698 --> 01:20:29,033 I was really looking forward to them doing that. 1889 01:20:29,325 --> 01:20:32,412 And then I guess they thought it would be a little too difficult 1890 01:20:32,704 --> 01:20:36,499 to do and so they switched it to the machete blade. 1891 01:20:36,791 --> 01:20:38,376 Melanie's reaction to me being killed, 1892 01:20:38,668 --> 01:20:40,211 they squirt out my blood. 1893 01:20:40,503 --> 01:20:43,131 It shoots up and hits her right in the eyes, 1894 01:20:43,423 --> 01:20:45,383 and she just freaks out because it wasn't actually 1895 01:20:45,508 --> 01:20:46,948 supposed to go in her eyes like that, 1896 01:20:47,010 --> 01:20:48,177 and I think that's the shot they ended up using, 1897 01:20:48,469 --> 01:20:50,138 so I kind of get a chuckle when I watch that scene. 1898 01:20:50,430 --> 01:20:52,890 JASON X has some good kills, I think. 1899 01:20:53,182 --> 01:20:55,435 I think we did a pretty good job of that. 1900 01:20:55,727 --> 01:20:57,145 You had different elements as well. 1901 01:20:57,437 --> 01:20:59,605 You had this sort of super SWAT team 1902 01:20:59,897 --> 01:21:01,691 that was out to get Jason. 1903 01:21:01,983 --> 01:21:03,818 You had hologram games. 1904 01:21:04,110 --> 01:21:04,736 I thought this was an alien sim? 1905 01:21:05,028 --> 01:21:06,571 Yeah, it is. 1906 01:21:06,863 --> 01:21:09,991 This was my tiny cameo in JASON X, 1907 01:21:10,283 --> 01:21:13,536 and I get the privilege, myself and Dov get the privilege 1908 01:21:13,828 --> 01:21:15,747 of saying that we died twice in a Jason movie 1909 01:21:16,039 --> 01:21:17,719 because we die in the virtual reality scene 1910 01:21:17,874 --> 01:21:19,167 where I get my head cut off. 1911 01:21:19,459 --> 01:21:22,503 OK, screw this. Game over! 1912 01:21:22,795 --> 01:21:24,964 And then later I get my head smashed into a wall 1913 01:21:25,256 --> 01:21:28,426 where my stuntman lovingly broke his nose for me. 1914 01:21:28,718 --> 01:21:32,180 I really liked Jonathan, the guy who plays the teacher. 1915 01:21:32,472 --> 01:21:33,514 We're gonna be safe here. 1916 01:21:33,806 --> 01:21:34,515 [Screams] 1917 01:21:34,807 --> 01:21:36,768 Shut up! 1918 01:21:37,060 --> 01:21:39,520 He's just such a sleaze ball, you know, 1919 01:21:39,812 --> 01:21:40,521 and he's always making the wrong choices and, you know, 1920 01:21:40,813 --> 01:21:42,774 he basically endangers everybody. 1921 01:21:43,066 --> 01:21:44,400 Jason's coming at him, 1922 01:21:44,692 --> 01:21:45,651 and he doesn't know what's going on, 1923 01:21:45,943 --> 01:21:48,071 and he grabs his machete and so he says, 1924 01:21:48,363 --> 01:21:50,490 Guys. lt's okay. He just wanted his machete back. 1925 01:21:50,782 --> 01:21:52,700 [Makes slashing sound] 1926 01:21:52,992 --> 01:21:54,872 We didn't know how I was going to die initially. 1927 01:21:55,119 --> 01:21:56,287 I'm asking everyone, 1928 01:21:56,579 --> 01:21:58,373 'How do I get it?' 1929 01:21:58,664 --> 01:22:00,750 So they said, 'Ah, we're going to cut your head off.' 1930 01:22:01,042 --> 01:22:02,377 Came back later and they said, 'We changed our mind. 1931 01:22:02,668 --> 01:22:04,712 He's going to grab you, 1932 01:22:05,004 --> 01:22:09,300 and he's going to slam your head into an electronic box.' 1933 01:22:09,592 --> 01:22:12,720 I leapt up going 'Holy fuck, that's hot.' 1934 01:22:13,012 --> 01:22:16,391 The thing about JASON X which, you know, 1935 01:22:16,682 --> 01:22:17,802 we didn't really think about 1936 01:22:18,017 --> 01:22:20,144 was that this took place in the future 1937 01:22:20,436 --> 01:22:22,438 so every single thing on frame had to be built. 1938 01:22:22,730 --> 01:22:24,399 It had to be created. 1939 01:22:24,690 --> 01:22:26,526 It had to be designed and fabricated. 1940 01:22:26,818 --> 01:22:28,138 The future was a lot more colorful 1941 01:22:28,319 --> 01:22:29,821 than I thought it would be. 1942 01:22:30,113 --> 01:22:31,155 It was beautiful, but it was beautiful in the way 1943 01:22:31,447 --> 01:22:33,658 that BATMAN 3 was beautiful in that, you know, 1944 01:22:33,950 --> 01:22:35,510 there was lots of color and lots of neon 1945 01:22:35,576 --> 01:22:37,578 and just not what I was expecting. 1946 01:22:37,870 --> 01:22:39,870 You know, what I was expecting was THE DARK KNIGHT. 1947 01:22:40,081 --> 01:22:42,241 We had something like, I don't know, 800 visual effects 1948 01:22:42,375 --> 01:22:44,293 in the film. 1949 01:22:44,585 --> 01:22:45,420 Sometimes you're acting with a tennis ball 1950 01:22:45,711 --> 01:22:46,754 on the end of a stick. 1951 01:22:47,046 --> 01:22:48,131 I was very new to it. 1952 01:22:48,423 --> 01:22:49,715 Given the fact that we were trying to pull off 1953 01:22:50,007 --> 01:22:53,219 a lot of technical things, 1954 01:22:53,511 --> 01:22:54,971 it was pretty smooth. 1955 01:22:55,263 --> 01:22:57,306 We had one shot that was outside 1956 01:22:57,598 --> 01:23:00,643 which just made the shoot very easy 1957 01:23:00,935 --> 01:23:03,479 because we were on stage every single day. 1958 01:23:03,771 --> 01:23:08,109 Following the release of Wes Craven's 1996 mega-hit SCREAM, 1959 01:23:08,401 --> 01:23:10,445 'slick, smart and self-referential' 1960 01:23:10,736 --> 01:23:13,114 became the hottest buzzwords in horror, 1961 01:23:13,406 --> 01:23:16,492 and JASON X was no exception. 1962 01:23:16,784 --> 01:23:18,244 No wonder you wore this thing. 1963 01:23:18,536 --> 01:23:22,874 My only issue really was that, 1964 01:23:23,166 --> 01:23:26,919 as we got closer into shooting, the script got changed. 1965 01:23:27,211 --> 01:23:30,089 It was one of the sort of post-SCREAM films. 1966 01:23:30,381 --> 01:23:31,861 And suddenly all the studio notes were 1967 01:23:32,091 --> 01:23:33,050 'this needs to be more like SCREAM.' 1968 01:23:33,342 --> 01:23:36,345 So it was a movie that had to acknowledge 1969 01:23:36,637 --> 01:23:39,182 that the movie-going audience, we knew all the cliches. 1970 01:23:39,474 --> 01:23:41,893 Now what? 1971 01:23:42,185 --> 01:23:44,854 Now basically... we die. 1972 01:23:45,146 --> 01:23:48,983 At one point, Lewis Abernathy, who had written DEEPSTAR SIX 1973 01:23:49,275 --> 01:23:51,110 and had been doing some work with Cameron, 1974 01:23:51,402 --> 01:23:53,696 he was also in TITANIC. 1975 01:23:53,988 --> 01:23:54,947 He was the frizzy-haired guy telling the story 1976 01:23:55,239 --> 01:23:56,519 about how the Titanic went down. 1977 01:23:56,741 --> 01:23:59,577 He came in just as a fresh set of eyes. 1978 01:23:59,869 --> 01:24:01,120 I think they went through and polished a lot of the dialogue 1979 01:24:01,412 --> 01:24:04,373 and it maybe made it a less ALIENS 1980 01:24:04,665 --> 01:24:05,958 and a little more campy. 1981 01:24:06,250 --> 01:24:09,420 Aw, shit, I forgot my arm. 1982 01:24:09,712 --> 01:24:11,964 Yeah, here you go, dumb-ass. 1983 01:24:12,256 --> 01:24:14,175 Hi, hand. 1984 01:24:14,467 --> 01:24:15,760 Some people thought it was a great idea and fun. 1985 01:24:16,052 --> 01:24:17,386 Other people thought, 'Oh, no. 1986 01:24:17,678 --> 01:24:18,838 We should go back to basics.' 1987 01:24:18,930 --> 01:24:21,307 If a rusted machete would no longer cut it 1988 01:24:21,599 --> 01:24:23,434 for Jason in the 24th century, 1989 01:24:23,726 --> 01:24:26,938 his opponents also had to be tougher, stronger 1990 01:24:27,230 --> 01:24:29,815 and more resilient than ever before. 1991 01:24:30,107 --> 01:24:34,153 Both good and evil needed an upgrade. 1992 01:24:34,445 --> 01:24:35,863 The women in FRIDAY THE 13TH movies 1993 01:24:36,155 --> 01:24:38,407 are always the strong, you know, 1994 01:24:38,699 --> 01:24:39,699 the strong characters, 1995 01:24:39,951 --> 01:24:40,910 and we wanted to be true to that. 1996 01:24:41,202 --> 01:24:43,287 But being in the future, 1997 01:24:43,579 --> 01:24:45,414 we wanted to take advantage of that as well 1998 01:24:45,706 --> 01:24:48,167 so Todd and I came up with this idea of this robot. 1999 01:24:48,459 --> 01:24:51,379 And this is the lovely Kay-Em 14, 2000 01:24:51,671 --> 01:24:54,382 Tsunaron's little 'love-bot.' 2001 01:24:54,674 --> 01:24:56,551 I actually took this character seriously. 2002 01:24:56,842 --> 01:24:58,511 I wanted to not just be android-like, 2003 01:24:58,803 --> 01:25:00,346 completely robotic. 2004 01:25:00,638 --> 01:25:01,973 And so Jim and I talked about 2005 01:25:02,265 --> 01:25:03,683 what would be some kind of templates 2006 01:25:03,975 --> 01:25:05,184 that we could work with, 2007 01:25:05,476 --> 01:25:07,353 and he actually mentioned STEPFORD WIVES. 2008 01:25:07,645 --> 01:25:09,188 There's some strength in that 2009 01:25:09,480 --> 01:25:11,774 in terms of being completely unflappable 2010 01:25:12,066 --> 01:25:16,988 and delighted at, 'Oh, what are you doing now? 2011 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,490 You've taken my head off. No worries.' 2012 01:25:19,782 --> 01:25:22,827 I'd clap if I could. 2013 01:25:23,119 --> 01:25:25,162 There's a scene in JASON X 2014 01:25:25,454 --> 01:25:28,541 where the robot Kay-Em wants to get fake boobs. 2015 01:25:28,833 --> 01:25:31,043 - What do you think? - Hmm? 2016 01:25:31,335 --> 01:25:33,212 - Do you like them? - They're fine. 2017 01:25:33,504 --> 01:25:35,631 And the boobs are not Lisa Ryder's boobs. 2018 01:25:35,923 --> 01:25:37,283 It's a prosthetic that goes over it 2019 01:25:37,425 --> 01:25:39,176 and then they have these fake nipples, 2020 01:25:39,468 --> 01:25:41,012 and they were attached to wires. 2021 01:25:41,304 --> 01:25:44,181 [clinking sounds, Tsunaron grumbles] 2022 01:25:44,473 --> 01:25:47,643 To this day, still, when people mention that movie 2023 01:25:47,935 --> 01:25:50,104 they are like, 'Oh, I love that fake boob scene.' 2024 01:25:50,396 --> 01:25:53,399 A giant challenge was my costume. 2025 01:25:53,691 --> 01:25:55,776 My costume was completely head-to-toe PVC 2026 01:25:56,068 --> 01:25:57,194 and corseted at the back. 2027 01:25:57,486 --> 01:25:59,405 It was hard to breath. 2028 01:25:59,697 --> 01:26:01,937 I think I lost like 10 pounds just sweating through that, 2029 01:26:02,033 --> 01:26:04,076 you know, PVC costume. 2030 01:26:04,368 --> 01:26:06,412 We wanted her to be the one that kills off Jason. 2031 01:26:06,704 --> 01:26:07,747 So it was just - it was just a way to have some fun with it. 2032 01:26:08,039 --> 01:26:09,790 There was a lot of gymnastics. 2033 01:26:10,082 --> 01:26:15,212 Just a lot of kung fu really. 2034 01:26:15,504 --> 01:26:19,550 Jason got shot so many times during that movie. 2035 01:26:19,842 --> 01:26:22,386 The wardrobe was changing every day, you know. 2036 01:26:22,678 --> 01:26:25,056 Here's the one that has 15 bullet holes. 2037 01:26:25,348 --> 01:26:27,588 Now this next scene you're going to have 45 bullet holes. 2038 01:26:27,642 --> 01:26:31,103 She shot off his arm, shot off his leg, 2039 01:26:31,395 --> 01:26:35,149 and then shot his head, and it exploded. 2040 01:26:35,441 --> 01:26:38,110 Yeah. 2041 01:26:38,402 --> 01:26:39,528 And that's when we felt that he had died. 2042 01:26:39,820 --> 01:26:42,239 We really wanted to play with the technology, 2043 01:26:42,531 --> 01:26:45,201 with taking advantage of the fact 2044 01:26:45,493 --> 01:26:46,243 that we're 400 years in the future, 2045 01:26:46,535 --> 01:26:47,995 and then we tossed around ideas 2046 01:26:48,287 --> 01:26:50,331 of what kind of technology might be forefront 2047 01:26:50,623 --> 01:26:54,168 and nanotechnology, I thought, was the obvious choice. 2048 01:26:54,460 --> 01:26:56,087 So we've got Uber-Jason. 2049 01:26:56,379 --> 01:26:59,757 So this is Jason 100 times better 2050 01:27:00,049 --> 01:27:01,509 than Jason has ever been before in the future. 2051 01:27:01,801 --> 01:27:03,177 The makeup was very easy to work in 2052 01:27:03,469 --> 01:27:05,179 until we got to Uber-Jason. 2053 01:27:05,471 --> 01:27:09,684 That was an entire one-piece suit. 2054 01:27:09,975 --> 01:27:12,853 It limited my motion a lot with the arm and the leg 2055 01:27:13,145 --> 01:27:14,939 that had the metallic pieces. 2056 01:27:15,231 --> 01:27:19,026 I couldn't bend at the joints as much as I was used to. 2057 01:27:19,318 --> 01:27:22,279 I still love the design of that Uber-Jason mask. 2058 01:27:22,571 --> 01:27:25,366 Then you get the red contact lenses. 2059 01:27:25,658 --> 01:27:28,035 Crew people didn't even want to look at me in the eyes 2060 01:27:28,327 --> 01:27:30,496 because it was so weird looking. 2061 01:27:30,788 --> 01:27:31,831 Because even though you've got the same character, 2062 01:27:32,123 --> 01:27:34,166 it's doing something different. 2063 01:27:34,458 --> 01:27:37,086 Jim lsaac's son brought his class in and, you know, 2064 01:27:37,378 --> 01:27:39,338 of course, I scared the hell out of them, 2065 01:27:39,630 --> 01:27:42,717 and, you know, kid went into a fetal position, one of them. 2066 01:27:43,008 --> 01:27:45,636 I guess I'm a little cruel but I gotta have some fun too. 2067 01:27:45,928 --> 01:27:47,847 Bar none, I mean, you can't put the guy down. 2068 01:27:48,139 --> 01:27:50,641 I mean he literally is indestructible in that sense. 2069 01:27:50,933 --> 01:27:52,560 Much to Kay-Em's sadness 2070 01:27:52,852 --> 01:27:54,252 because then he knocked my head off. 2071 01:27:54,353 --> 01:27:57,189 You guys might want to run. 2072 01:27:57,481 --> 01:28:00,651 Our big plan to use our robot has gone awry 2073 01:28:00,943 --> 01:28:02,343 so we've got this rolling robot head 2074 01:28:02,570 --> 01:28:04,530 that Tsunaron is in love with. 2075 01:28:04,822 --> 01:28:06,449 He's holding it, and he's gone crazy. 2076 01:28:06,741 --> 01:28:07,992 He's lost his mind, and he's holding the robot head. 2077 01:28:08,284 --> 01:28:09,952 We've got Waylander 2078 01:28:10,244 --> 01:28:12,079 who's sacrificing himself to save the day 2079 01:28:12,371 --> 01:28:16,459 and blows up the hull. 2080 01:28:16,751 --> 01:28:19,003 One of the things that's interesting about the film 2081 01:28:19,295 --> 01:28:21,589 is my death is sort of indirectly caused by Jason. 2082 01:28:21,881 --> 01:28:22,173 Jason has punched a hole from outside 2083 01:28:22,465 --> 01:28:27,136 into the spaceship and, of course, 2084 01:28:27,428 --> 01:28:30,014 when he pulls out his hand, it creates this enormous vacuum. 2085 01:28:30,306 --> 01:28:32,892 We're all trying to run away and poor little Janessa 2086 01:28:33,184 --> 01:28:35,352 just isn't strong enough or fast enough 2087 01:28:35,644 --> 01:28:38,397 to get away before the suction starts. 2088 01:28:38,689 --> 01:28:41,692 This sucks on so many levels! 2089 01:28:41,984 --> 01:28:44,403 Janessa has the best witticisms. 2090 01:28:44,695 --> 01:28:46,155 Want a beer? 2091 01:28:46,447 --> 01:28:48,282 Or do you want to smoke some pot? 2092 01:28:48,574 --> 01:28:51,076 Or we can have pre-marital sex. 2093 01:28:51,368 --> 01:28:55,039 The most successful scene in that movie 2094 01:28:55,331 --> 01:29:00,753 was the sort of hyper-reality of Jason on the spaceship, 2095 01:29:01,045 --> 01:29:03,881 you know, pummeling the naked campers in the sleeping bag. 2096 01:29:04,173 --> 01:29:06,217 You know, it's a love letter to all the other movies 2097 01:29:06,509 --> 01:29:07,510 because that's what they were at one point. 2098 01:29:07,802 --> 01:29:08,962 It was just innocent and fun. 2099 01:29:09,053 --> 01:29:12,890 Originally I wanted Uber-Jason 2100 01:29:13,182 --> 01:29:14,183 to pick up the girls in the sleeping bags 2101 01:29:14,475 --> 01:29:16,811 and swirl them around like this 2102 01:29:17,102 --> 01:29:20,022 and then hit them in the air and then throw them down. 2103 01:29:20,314 --> 01:29:22,191 We were running out of time and money by then. 2104 01:29:22,483 --> 01:29:23,567 It was the end of the show 2105 01:29:23,859 --> 01:29:26,612 and that would involve a lot of rigging to do that 2106 01:29:26,904 --> 01:29:30,157 or a little CGI stuff, so we adapted it a little bit, 2107 01:29:30,449 --> 01:29:32,576 which I think actually worked out even better. 2108 01:29:32,868 --> 01:29:36,664 The weightless environment scene 2109 01:29:36,956 --> 01:29:39,083 with Jason fighting another guy concerned me from the beginning. 2110 01:29:39,375 --> 01:29:42,086 I thought Jason might look a little comical 2111 01:29:42,378 --> 01:29:46,298 floating around weightless even if he's fighting 2112 01:29:46,590 --> 01:29:49,009 so we were able to limit that a little bit. 2113 01:29:49,301 --> 01:29:51,637 One way to find a weakness 2114 01:29:51,929 --> 01:29:53,389 because it's pretty hard to find a weakness for Jason. 2115 01:29:53,681 --> 01:29:55,432 Tsunaron and the Rowan character 2116 01:29:55,724 --> 01:29:58,978 escaped ultimately into a pod, 2117 01:29:59,270 --> 01:30:01,605 and they saw Brodski ride Jason off into the sunset 2118 01:30:01,897 --> 01:30:04,066 kind of thing. 2119 01:30:04,358 --> 01:30:08,028 And it was basically my head, Tsunaron and Rowan who survived. 2120 01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,574 During the year-long production of JASON X, Michael DeLuca, 2121 01:30:11,866 --> 01:30:13,534 New Line Cinema's president of production, 2122 01:30:13,826 --> 01:30:18,706 made a much-publicized exit from the studio, 2123 01:30:18,998 --> 01:30:20,124 and with him would go the film's biggest champion. 2124 01:30:20,416 --> 01:30:23,002 With virtually no support for the film at New Line, 2125 01:30:23,294 --> 01:30:27,590 JASON X would be left adrift in space for over two years. 2126 01:30:27,882 --> 01:30:29,967 You know, it just kind of sat there. 2127 01:30:30,259 --> 01:30:32,259 It was the redheaded stepchild for almost 18 months 2128 01:30:32,469 --> 01:30:35,723 um... and during which time actually 2129 01:30:36,015 --> 01:30:37,535 a print got leaked out on the Internet. 2130 01:30:37,808 --> 01:30:39,852 And I know for a couple months, 2131 01:30:40,144 --> 01:30:41,812 we were the most pirated movie out there. 2132 01:30:42,104 --> 01:30:45,107 By the time JASON X was released in April 2002, 2133 01:30:45,399 --> 01:30:49,111 it failed to ignite even a modest spark at the box office, 2134 01:30:49,403 --> 01:30:51,822 and is regarded by both critics and fans 2135 01:30:52,114 --> 01:30:54,992 as an interstellar dud. 2136 01:30:55,284 --> 01:30:58,454 When it finally did come out, you know, 2137 01:30:58,746 --> 01:31:00,331 a lot of the buzz that had been going on on the Internet 2138 01:31:00,623 --> 01:31:02,166 had kind of died down, 2139 01:31:02,458 --> 01:31:04,043 and whether it was deserved or not, 2140 01:31:04,335 --> 01:31:06,003 I think there was a bad smell to it, 2141 01:31:06,295 --> 01:31:07,838 and it just didn't perform as well as it could have. 2142 01:31:08,130 --> 01:31:09,089 There's lots of things I'd like to do differently. 2143 01:31:09,381 --> 01:31:12,468 I mean, I don't think there's anybody 2144 01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:14,762 who's sort of directed a film or, you know, 2145 01:31:15,054 --> 01:31:18,098 made a drawing or sculpted an ashtray or whatever, 2146 01:31:18,390 --> 01:31:19,558 I mean, I think you always look at it and go, 2147 01:31:19,850 --> 01:31:21,143 I could have done it a little bit differently.' 2148 01:31:21,435 --> 01:31:22,561 I don't think anyone's ever going to be happy 2149 01:31:22,853 --> 01:31:24,355 with the way it turned out. 2150 01:31:24,647 --> 01:31:27,149 Yeah, I wish it had been a little bit darker, 2151 01:31:27,441 --> 01:31:28,609 a little bit edgier. 2152 01:31:28,901 --> 01:31:30,736 You want to make the best movie you can make, 2153 01:31:31,028 --> 01:31:33,572 and I feel like because we were all going 2154 01:31:33,864 --> 01:31:34,448 in different directions, we didn't make the best movie 2155 01:31:34,740 --> 01:31:36,492 we could make. 2156 01:31:36,784 --> 01:31:38,118 And, you know, I know that people love or hate it, 2157 01:31:38,410 --> 01:31:40,371 but it could have been better. 2158 01:31:40,663 --> 01:31:42,915 I think the movie does suck on a lot of levels, 2159 01:31:43,207 --> 01:31:45,250 and I think that's part of its appeal. 2160 01:31:45,542 --> 01:31:47,586 One of the things I love the most about JASON X 2161 01:31:47,878 --> 01:31:50,089 is that it's not embarrassed to be JASON X. 2162 01:31:50,381 --> 01:31:51,507 We watched the movie. Everybody had a good time. 2163 01:31:51,799 --> 01:31:53,467 It was a packed house, 2164 01:31:53,759 --> 01:31:55,094 and we were walking out and there were these girls, 2165 01:31:55,386 --> 01:31:58,013 and they were like, 'Oh. You're in the movie, 2166 01:31:58,305 --> 01:32:00,349 you're in the movie.' 2167 01:32:00,641 --> 01:32:01,183 And one of my buddies said, 'Hey, you want his autograph?' 2168 01:32:01,475 --> 01:32:04,478 and the girl went, 'Nah.. 2169 01:32:04,770 --> 01:32:10,317 I went right from doing JASON X to a TV show called ANDROMEDA 2170 01:32:10,609 --> 01:32:12,736 which the parallels were astonishing. 2171 01:32:13,028 --> 01:32:16,448 Lexa Doig and I both were in both. 2172 01:32:16,740 --> 01:32:20,369 It marked my, you know, the beginning of six years in space. 2173 01:32:20,661 --> 01:32:22,461 I look back now and I realize how lucky I was. 2174 01:32:22,579 --> 01:32:23,872 Of course, I was complaining, 2175 01:32:24,164 --> 01:32:25,874 and I thought my career was over 2176 01:32:26,166 --> 01:32:27,793 as I would see what was becoming of it but, you know, 2177 01:32:28,085 --> 01:32:30,129 it was what it was. 2178 01:32:30,421 --> 01:32:32,702 There have been an absolute tremendous number of spin-offs 2179 01:32:32,756 --> 01:32:34,636 for comic books, novels, all that sort of stuff. 2180 01:32:34,883 --> 01:32:36,885 I think with the JASON X franchise, 2181 01:32:37,177 --> 01:32:37,803 I think you can continue telling those stories 2182 01:32:38,095 --> 01:32:39,763 in the future. 2183 01:32:40,055 --> 01:32:42,016 And, again, look, even those movies, 2184 01:32:42,307 --> 01:32:43,934 if you really love the series, they have their merits. 2185 01:32:44,226 --> 01:32:45,394 I mean, we all sit and watch these things 2186 01:32:45,686 --> 01:32:47,479 when they play the marathon on Spike 2187 01:32:47,771 --> 01:32:49,064 or whatever channel they're on every year, 2188 01:32:49,356 --> 01:32:50,899 and there's no question, if it's a Friday the 13th, 2189 01:32:51,191 --> 01:32:53,193 we're going to go check cable 2190 01:32:53,485 --> 01:32:54,069 because you know a couple of them are going to be on. 2191 01:32:54,361 --> 01:32:56,238 And no matter what they are 2192 01:32:56,530 --> 01:32:57,239 or how ridiculous they might be at times, 2193 01:32:57,531 --> 01:32:58,811 I'm going to sit and watch them. 2194 01:32:58,991 --> 01:33:00,492 And probably enjoy them at an unhealthy level. 2195 01:33:00,784 --> 01:33:02,944 I think in general I should have fought a little harder 2196 01:33:03,037 --> 01:33:05,122 for the script that I fell in love with originally. 2197 01:33:05,414 --> 01:33:07,583 You know, that's your job as a director 2198 01:33:07,875 --> 01:33:08,834 is to fight for what you think is right 2199 01:33:09,126 --> 01:33:11,920 and that sometimes is difficult 2200 01:33:12,212 --> 01:33:15,007 when you're under the gun, time, money and all that. 2201 01:33:15,299 --> 01:33:18,427 But, I mean, as far as it being crazy and fun and different, 2202 01:33:18,719 --> 01:33:20,429 Pm pretty happy with it. 2203 01:33:20,721 --> 01:33:22,431 But really I think at the end of the day, 2204 01:33:22,723 --> 01:33:24,266 it got Jason back out there again, 2205 01:33:24,558 --> 01:33:26,894 gave the little push forward that FREDDY/JASON 2206 01:33:27,186 --> 01:33:29,146 needed to really take off 2207 01:33:29,438 --> 01:33:34,438 and get us back to where we are right now. 2208 01:33:47,831 --> 01:33:49,416 Ever since the idea 2209 01:33:49,708 --> 01:33:51,710 for a pairing of FRIDAY THE 13THs Jason 2210 01:33:52,002 --> 01:33:53,837 with A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET'S Freddy 2211 01:33:54,129 --> 01:33:56,757 was first suggested in the late 1980s, 2212 01:33:57,049 --> 01:33:59,384 fans had been anticipating the ultimate showdown 2213 01:33:59,676 --> 01:34:02,221 between the two horror icons. 2214 01:34:02,513 --> 01:34:04,433 It was funny because when we finished our FRIDAY, 2215 01:34:04,556 --> 01:34:06,975 it started to go around that, 2216 01:34:07,267 --> 01:34:10,062 what about bringing Freddy into the series, you know, 2217 01:34:10,354 --> 01:34:12,189 and actually have a FREDDY VS. JASON. 2218 01:34:12,481 --> 01:34:14,149 The kids had been talking about it. 2219 01:34:14,441 --> 01:34:16,121 Whether it's letters to the editor in Fango 2220 01:34:16,276 --> 01:34:19,822 or at conventions or in fan clubs, 2221 01:34:20,114 --> 01:34:20,739 they'd been talking about Freddy and Michael Myers, 2222 01:34:21,031 --> 01:34:22,157 Freddy and Jason, 2223 01:34:22,449 --> 01:34:24,201 Jason and Michael Myers. 2224 01:34:24,493 --> 01:34:26,120 You know, who would win? 2225 01:34:26,411 --> 01:34:27,663 There was always the talk that Freddy and Jason 2226 01:34:27,955 --> 01:34:29,289 would somehow be combined, 2227 01:34:29,581 --> 01:34:29,748 and I think the ownership of those two properties, 2228 01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,334 of Freddy and of Jason, 2229 01:34:32,626 --> 01:34:34,878 kind of mish-mashed around various studios 2230 01:34:35,170 --> 01:34:35,796 and ended up finally at the same place. 2231 01:34:36,088 --> 01:34:38,423 Then after JASON X, 2232 01:34:38,715 --> 01:34:40,676 they started seriously talking about it, 2233 01:34:40,968 --> 01:34:41,802 saying they were going to have a script done, 2234 01:34:42,094 --> 01:34:44,847 and, you know, 2235 01:34:45,139 --> 01:34:47,683 then it was definitely a real project 2236 01:34:47,975 --> 01:34:50,811 and appeared to be the very next one to be done. 2237 01:34:51,103 --> 01:34:51,937 And you've got to remember even, 2238 01:34:52,229 --> 01:34:54,940 almost a decade in front of that 2239 01:34:55,232 --> 01:34:57,401 when you look at JASON GOES TO HELL, 2240 01:34:57,693 --> 01:34:59,862 it had been set up, it was clear it was coming. 2241 01:35:00,154 --> 01:35:01,446 And our idea was Jason was Hell's assassin, 2242 01:35:01,738 --> 01:35:04,032 so Freddy is the other assassin, 2243 01:35:04,324 --> 01:35:05,284 and both of them had just been killed. 2244 01:35:05,576 --> 01:35:08,328 So now these guys are both in hell, 2245 01:35:08,620 --> 01:35:11,582 and the devil proposes a contest to these two guys, 2246 01:35:11,874 --> 01:35:14,543 which is, I'm sending you both up. 2247 01:35:14,835 --> 01:35:20,132 Whoever brings me the most souls in this given time slot, 2248 01:35:20,424 --> 01:35:23,135 you're the winner and you get to stay up there as my assassin. 2249 01:35:23,427 --> 01:35:25,679 The other one is gone forever. 2250 01:35:25,971 --> 01:35:28,932 So that was sort of our idea for Freddy vs. Jason 2251 01:35:29,224 --> 01:35:30,350 back in the day. 2252 01:35:30,642 --> 01:35:32,644 But New Line had, you know, 2253 01:35:32,936 --> 01:35:35,230 no interest in giving, you know, the rights over 2254 01:35:35,522 --> 01:35:37,107 and Paramount was not going to go the other direction. 2255 01:35:37,399 --> 01:35:40,068 And it took a long time for Paramount 2256 01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:42,404 to finally lose their option. 2257 01:35:42,696 --> 01:35:43,780 They wanted to distribute the film. 2258 01:35:44,072 --> 01:35:46,950 So it was a combination of things. 2259 01:35:47,242 --> 01:35:49,077 I got the first draft of FREDDY VS. JASON 2260 01:35:49,369 --> 01:35:52,331 when I was a freshman in high school in 1994. 2261 01:35:52,623 --> 01:35:56,335 I bought it for $15 at the Motor City Comicon in Detroit, 2262 01:35:56,627 --> 01:35:59,087 and I remember pledging right then and there, 2263 01:35:59,379 --> 01:36:03,133 'I need to get to New Line, I need to get to LA 2264 01:36:03,425 --> 01:36:04,676 before they make this movie, 2265 01:36:04,968 --> 01:36:05,844 or I'm never going to forgive myself.' 2266 01:36:06,136 --> 01:36:07,429 And I made it my goal. 2267 01:36:07,721 --> 01:36:09,181 I dropped out of college 2268 01:36:09,473 --> 01:36:10,599 specifically to be able to get there in time 2269 01:36:10,891 --> 01:36:12,517 to make FREDDY VS. JASON. 2270 01:36:12,809 --> 01:36:14,449 And credit to Jeff Katz because, you know, 2271 01:36:14,686 --> 01:36:15,562 you've got to be kind of a dog with a bone 2272 01:36:15,854 --> 01:36:17,564 on these things. 2273 01:36:17,856 --> 01:36:20,192 There's so much... not just on FREDDY VS. JASON, 2274 01:36:20,484 --> 01:36:22,069 on every kind of movie, 2275 01:36:22,361 --> 01:36:24,241 it's always easier at a million different stages 2276 01:36:24,404 --> 01:36:26,073 just to say no. 2277 01:36:26,365 --> 01:36:27,532 But after more than a decade in the works, 2278 01:36:27,824 --> 01:36:29,826 and millions of dollars 2279 01:36:30,118 --> 01:36:31,453 spent on some of Hollywood's most sought-after 2280 01:36:31,745 --> 01:36:33,205 screenwriters and directors, 2281 01:36:33,497 --> 01:36:35,749 it seemed that Freddy and Jason 2282 01:36:36,041 --> 01:36:39,211 might forever be trapped in Development Hell. 2283 01:36:39,503 --> 01:36:41,922 They had gotten Rob Bottin attached. 2284 01:36:42,214 --> 01:36:45,175 Rob Bottin was a huge special effects makeup guy. 2285 01:36:45,467 --> 01:36:49,429 You know, he'd worked on Carpenter's remake of THE THING. 2286 01:36:49,721 --> 01:36:51,848 And Rob Bottin was going to make his directing debut 2287 01:36:52,140 --> 01:36:53,809 with this project. 2288 01:36:54,101 --> 01:36:56,019 And so it incubated and then there were scripts 2289 01:36:56,311 --> 01:36:58,105 and scripts and scripts. 2290 01:36:58,397 --> 01:36:59,856 I think there were 13, 14, 15 writers on that script. 2291 01:37:00,148 --> 01:37:03,026 There were so many different specific takes 2292 01:37:03,318 --> 01:37:05,112 and so many different, you know, 2293 01:37:05,404 --> 01:37:07,906 versions of that movie from beginning to end. 2294 01:37:08,198 --> 01:37:10,033 The first draft I ever read was the Peter Briggs draft 2295 01:37:10,325 --> 01:37:13,287 which was actually taking very good care of continuity 2296 01:37:13,578 --> 01:37:15,706 to where Alice the Dream Master was in it, 2297 01:37:15,998 --> 01:37:18,583 the Freemans from JASON GOES TO HELL were in it. 2298 01:37:18,875 --> 01:37:20,544 It was about the kids and the families coming together 2299 01:37:20,836 --> 01:37:22,921 ultimately to stop them. 2300 01:37:23,213 --> 01:37:24,589 They didn't like the script, and they didn't like the director. 2301 01:37:24,881 --> 01:37:25,841 Then they didn't like the script. 2302 01:37:26,133 --> 01:37:27,384 Because Freddy Krueger's origin 2303 01:37:27,676 --> 01:37:29,136 was that Freddy was a child killer, 2304 01:37:29,428 --> 01:37:31,346 a child molester. 2305 01:37:31,638 --> 01:37:34,683 He had actually molested Jason and actually drowned Jason 2306 01:37:34,975 --> 01:37:36,518 so that Jason wouldn't tell anybody what had happened. 2307 01:37:36,810 --> 01:37:38,562 You had another series of scripts 2308 01:37:38,854 --> 01:37:41,106 where I believe the character's name was Dominic Necros 2309 01:37:41,398 --> 01:37:42,566 if I get this, if I remember correctly. 2310 01:37:42,858 --> 01:37:45,861 It seems to me that a third of this movie 2311 01:37:46,153 --> 01:37:47,404 needs to be about Freddy, a third needs to be about Jason, 2312 01:37:47,696 --> 01:37:49,906 and a third needs to be about a new character. 2313 01:37:50,198 --> 01:37:52,951 So I created the head of a cult of Freddy fanatics 2314 01:37:53,243 --> 01:37:55,078 who were called Fred Heads. 2315 01:37:55,370 --> 01:37:56,496 But it was really, just look, it's Freddy and Jason. 2316 01:37:56,788 --> 01:37:57,988 They're the stars of the show. 2317 01:37:58,248 --> 01:37:58,707 I certainly wouldn't buy a ticket to a movie 2318 01:37:58,999 --> 01:38:01,001 Called FREDDY VS. JASON 2319 01:38:01,293 --> 01:38:03,813 to go spend the bulk of my time with a guy named Dominic Necros. 2320 01:38:04,087 --> 01:38:05,088 I didn't buy a ticket with his name in the title. 2321 01:38:05,380 --> 01:38:08,300 In our version they find Jason's grave 2322 01:38:08,592 --> 01:38:11,261 at the Crystal Lake Cemetery, 2323 01:38:11,553 --> 01:38:15,724 and there's a headstone that says Jason Voorhees, you know, 2324 01:38:16,016 --> 01:38:20,103 born 1958, died 1963, and that was crossed off, 2325 01:38:20,395 --> 01:38:23,607 1978 and that was crossed off, 1981 was crossed off, 2326 01:38:23,899 --> 01:38:27,152 1982, 1983, and there were like 20 dates on there 2327 01:38:27,444 --> 01:38:29,279 of like all the times he had died. 2328 01:38:29,571 --> 01:38:32,574 So that's probably a documentary all unto itself. 2329 01:38:32,866 --> 01:38:34,993 It's all of the writers and all of the drafts. 2330 01:38:35,285 --> 01:38:38,080 Ultimately, a young screenwriting duo 2331 01:38:38,372 --> 01:38:40,749 came up with a take that would pit the two terror titans 2332 01:38:41,041 --> 01:38:43,210 against each other while remaining true 2333 01:38:43,502 --> 01:38:45,837 to the established histories of both franchises. 2334 01:38:46,129 --> 01:38:49,091 The writers lobbied hard not only for the assignment, 2335 01:38:49,383 --> 01:38:51,176 but also to put the project back 2336 01:38:51,468 --> 01:38:53,345 on the studio's fast track. 2337 01:38:53,637 --> 01:38:55,013 When Freddy's glove comes out of the ground 2338 01:38:55,305 --> 01:38:56,640 and pulls the mask in, and we asked ourselves, 2339 01:38:56,932 --> 01:38:58,141 'What does that mean? 2340 01:38:58,433 --> 01:38:59,101 Why is Freddy grabbing his mask? 2341 01:38:59,393 --> 01:39:00,433 Why is he pulling it down? 2342 01:39:00,602 --> 01:39:02,187 Does he need him for something?' 2343 01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:04,731 And that's kind of the seed that kind of grew 2344 01:39:05,023 --> 01:39:06,775 into FREDDY VS. JASON. 2345 01:39:07,067 --> 01:39:08,443 Our angle was we started by saying here are the things 2346 01:39:08,735 --> 01:39:10,779 that you should not do and then we went backwards. 2347 01:39:11,071 --> 01:39:12,823 And then we sort of got them to understand 2348 01:39:13,115 --> 01:39:15,158 what this movie could be, you know what I mean, 2349 01:39:15,450 --> 01:39:15,700 and then got them excited about it. 2350 01:39:15,992 --> 01:39:18,161 Those guys ultimately, 2351 01:39:18,453 --> 01:39:20,038 because they grew up as fans of both these franchises, got it. 2352 01:39:20,330 --> 01:39:21,748 I think if you ask most of the fans, 2353 01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:23,542 I want to see Freddy as I know him and love him best, 2354 01:39:23,834 --> 01:39:25,252 Jason as I know and love him best 2355 01:39:25,544 --> 01:39:26,628 and just let these two sort of forces of nature 2356 01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:28,797 go head-to-head and ultimately, 2357 01:39:29,089 --> 01:39:30,632 thankfully, we ended up in that place. 2358 01:39:30,924 --> 01:39:33,385 While Sean Cunningham undeniably 2359 01:39:33,677 --> 01:39:35,887 retained creative control of all things Jason, 2360 01:39:36,179 --> 01:39:37,819 the same could not be said for Wes Craven, 2361 01:39:38,098 --> 01:39:39,474 the mastermind behind 2362 01:39:39,766 --> 01:39:41,726 A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET'S Freddy Krueger. 2363 01:39:42,018 --> 01:39:43,145 I never really had any participation 2364 01:39:43,437 --> 01:39:45,564 after NEW NIGHTMARE. 2365 01:39:45,856 --> 01:39:47,336 That was kind of the end of it for me. 2366 01:39:47,482 --> 01:39:50,444 Wes also had moved on to other things, 2367 01:39:50,735 --> 01:39:52,571 the SCREAM franchise and everything, 2368 01:39:52,863 --> 01:39:54,114 so he really didn't really care too much 2369 01:39:54,406 --> 01:39:56,199 about FREDDY VS. JASON. 2370 01:39:56,491 --> 01:39:58,571 Outside of Wes, who's certainly being paid every time 2371 01:39:58,743 --> 01:40:01,024 the character is used, getting his credit and all of that, 2372 01:40:01,204 --> 01:40:02,622 it wasn't a case where Wes could actually control, 2373 01:40:02,914 --> 01:40:04,154 I don't want Freddy to do that, 2374 01:40:04,207 --> 01:40:06,334 that wasn't a possibility, 2375 01:40:06,626 --> 01:40:08,670 whereas in Jason's case, Sean has that ability. 2376 01:40:08,962 --> 01:40:10,422 When it finally got together, 2377 01:40:10,714 --> 01:40:13,758 we had trouble finding a director too. 2378 01:40:14,050 --> 01:40:15,969 They met with probably 40 directors. 2379 01:40:16,261 --> 01:40:18,101 They met with every director you could think of 2380 01:40:18,221 --> 01:40:19,848 on this project 2381 01:40:20,140 --> 01:40:21,183 because a lot of guys wanted to do it. 2382 01:40:21,475 --> 01:40:23,351 We went to one of the executives and said, 2383 01:40:23,643 --> 01:40:24,895 'You should really think about this guy Ronny Yu' 2384 01:40:25,187 --> 01:40:27,147 because we were big fans of BRIDE WITH WHITE HAIR. 2385 01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:29,319 New Line agreed to meet with the action director 2386 01:40:29,399 --> 01:40:31,485 from Hong Kong, 2387 01:40:31,776 --> 01:40:33,528 who had recently brought another American horror franchise 2388 01:40:33,820 --> 01:40:35,380 back from the dead with BRIDE OF CHUCKY. 2389 01:40:35,655 --> 01:40:37,407 That first meeting, my intention 2390 01:40:37,699 --> 01:40:40,660 really was to go in to tell Bob 2391 01:40:40,952 --> 01:40:41,828 that I don't want to do the movie. 2392 01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:42,913 He's been getting, like, directors, 2393 01:40:43,205 --> 01:40:45,665 tons of directors, 2394 01:40:45,957 --> 01:40:47,917 like saying they grew up with these two franchise, 2395 01:40:48,043 --> 01:40:50,795 and they're crazy about this 2396 01:40:51,087 --> 01:40:53,798 and then there come this Chinaman comes in 2397 01:40:54,090 --> 01:40:55,383 and tell them that, you know, 2398 01:40:55,675 --> 01:40:57,219 he doesn't care about the franchise 2399 01:40:57,511 --> 01:41:00,472 but he knows how to make an entertainment movie. 2400 01:41:00,764 --> 01:41:03,391 So he said this is what he want. 2401 01:41:03,683 --> 01:41:05,977 We wants somebody come in with a different angle. 2402 01:41:06,269 --> 01:41:08,438 He had never seen a FRIDAY THE 13TH movie 2403 01:41:08,730 --> 01:41:11,566 or a NIGHTMARE movie... 2404 01:41:11,858 --> 01:41:14,694 and that seemed like a very odd choice for me, 2405 01:41:14,986 --> 01:41:18,365 for a director to direct the most important one 2406 01:41:18,657 --> 01:41:20,450 of each franchise. 2407 01:41:20,742 --> 01:41:23,537 You know, at this point we were looking for journeymen. 2408 01:41:23,828 --> 01:41:26,706 I liked the guy's cultural influences, 2409 01:41:26,998 --> 01:41:28,959 and he was also a nice guy 2410 01:41:29,251 --> 01:41:30,835 that I felt like I could get along with. 2411 01:41:31,127 --> 01:41:34,756 Just that little outside-ness that Ronny Yu brought to it, 2412 01:41:35,048 --> 01:41:36,508 being a Hong Kong director, 2413 01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:38,176 I think really, really helped it. 2414 01:41:38,468 --> 01:41:39,803 Don't take it too seriously. 2415 01:41:40,095 --> 01:41:42,722 You know, have fun with the monster. 2416 01:41:43,014 --> 01:41:44,975 This is what I learned when I was making BRIDE OF CHUCKY. 2417 01:41:45,267 --> 01:41:47,811 Chucky: What would Martha Stewart say? 2418 01:41:48,103 --> 01:41:49,688 Tiffany: Fuck Martha Stewart! 2419 01:41:49,980 --> 01:41:53,400 It was never a question in the minds of genre fans 2420 01:41:53,692 --> 01:41:56,069 that Kane Hodder, who had already played Jason four times, 2421 01:41:56,361 --> 01:41:58,280 would be back for FREDDY VS. JASON. 2422 01:41:58,572 --> 01:42:01,449 But as pre-production began, 2423 01:42:01,741 --> 01:42:04,703 rumors began to circulate that Hodder was out of the running. 2424 01:42:04,995 --> 01:42:08,373 I had planned, in my own mind, I guess, 2425 01:42:08,665 --> 01:42:11,334 for years to do that movie. 2426 01:42:11,626 --> 01:42:14,254 I thought they had planned for me to do it as well. 2427 01:42:14,546 --> 01:42:17,257 In that fan boy base there was a dispute 2428 01:42:17,549 --> 01:42:19,301 as to whether or not Kane Hodder 2429 01:42:19,593 --> 01:42:23,096 was going to be as good as some other Jason might be, 2430 01:42:23,388 --> 01:42:25,932 and frankly I never thought of anybody else playing the part. 2431 01:42:26,224 --> 01:42:28,351 I really was excited about doing it. 2432 01:42:28,643 --> 01:42:29,728 Got the script. 2433 01:42:30,020 --> 01:42:33,356 Then the director was hired 2434 01:42:33,648 --> 01:42:35,648 and things started changing, and I wasn't sure why. 2435 01:42:35,817 --> 01:42:38,320 Before I'm onboard, 2436 01:42:38,612 --> 01:42:42,407 already the studio decided that they wanted a new Jason. 2437 01:42:42,699 --> 01:42:44,993 The decision not to use Kane Hodder 2438 01:42:45,285 --> 01:42:47,912 really had nothing to do with Ronny. 2439 01:42:48,204 --> 01:42:50,415 Ronny said from day one, 2440 01:42:50,707 --> 01:42:52,959 'If you guys want Kane Hodder, I don't care.' 2441 01:42:53,251 --> 01:42:55,503 But one of the executives at New Line said, 'No. 2442 01:42:55,795 --> 01:42:57,464 Let's go a different way.' 2443 01:42:57,756 --> 01:42:59,758 In terms of Jason, I certainly personally point 2444 01:43:00,050 --> 01:43:01,551 to parts 3, 4 and 6 really at the end of the day. 2445 01:43:01,843 --> 01:43:04,387 Tall, lanky, clean mask. 2446 01:43:04,679 --> 01:43:06,159 And I think that there was an attitude 2447 01:43:06,264 --> 01:43:08,099 that when you shot them side-by-side, 2448 01:43:08,391 --> 01:43:10,310 one had to look like a sort of force of nature, 2449 01:43:10,602 --> 01:43:12,020 a tank, that being Jason. 2450 01:43:12,312 --> 01:43:13,938 You know, I think it was just the stigma 2451 01:43:14,230 --> 01:43:17,901 of all of the Jasons that led up to what we were doing. 2452 01:43:18,193 --> 01:43:20,195 They'd all been sort of, you know, forgive me, 2453 01:43:20,487 --> 01:43:23,657 but a little cheesy and not too expensive to make. 2454 01:43:23,948 --> 01:43:26,493 And I think New Line, when they decided to make this movie, 2455 01:43:26,785 --> 01:43:29,371 decided they wanted to do something different. 2456 01:43:29,663 --> 01:43:31,873 And different just didn't mean Kane Hodder, 2457 01:43:32,165 --> 01:43:33,165 it meant everything. 2458 01:43:33,333 --> 01:43:34,918 I says fine, you know. 2459 01:43:35,210 --> 01:43:38,171 This is their call, and I'm fine with it. 2460 01:43:38,463 --> 01:43:41,132 I always did feel kind of bad that, I had been, you know, 2461 01:43:41,424 --> 01:43:44,135 pushing for this whole match-up in interviews for 16 years 2462 01:43:44,427 --> 01:43:47,722 in playing Jason 2463 01:43:48,014 --> 01:43:50,392 and then not be allowed to do it. 2464 01:43:50,684 --> 01:43:54,187 And a lot of people were unhappy and still are. 2465 01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:56,022 And, you know, part of me really wishes 2466 01:43:56,314 --> 01:43:58,441 that, you know, those fans had been able to see 2467 01:43:58,733 --> 01:44:00,735 that dream that they were always looking for, 2468 01:44:01,027 --> 01:44:02,067 which was Robert and Kane. 2469 01:44:02,278 --> 01:44:03,196 And unfortunately that didn't happen. 2470 01:44:03,488 --> 01:44:05,699 But, you know, this is showbiz 2471 01:44:05,990 --> 01:44:07,430 and apparently we're all replaceable. 2472 01:44:07,659 --> 01:44:09,828 I get the issue on this one, 2473 01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,080 but I also sort of know the larger movie business, 2474 01:44:12,330 --> 01:44:13,748 and the way things go. 2475 01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:15,480 It was going to happen at some point. 2476 01:44:15,750 --> 01:44:17,043 I would say to you at the end of the day, 2477 01:44:17,335 --> 01:44:18,670 do I really think it affected box office? I really don't. 2478 01:44:18,962 --> 01:44:21,881 You know, it was going to be a success no matter what 2479 01:44:22,173 --> 01:44:24,884 just because people wanted to see the two characters together, 2480 01:44:25,176 --> 01:44:28,430 and I just, I really wish I had been able to do it. 2481 01:44:28,722 --> 01:44:30,849 The producers' search for a new Jason 2482 01:44:31,141 --> 01:44:33,685 led them to a six-foot-seven Canadian stuntman 2483 01:44:33,977 --> 01:44:35,854 who had donned Jason's trademark hockey mask once before. 2484 01:44:36,146 --> 01:44:38,565 This time, however, 2485 01:44:38,857 --> 01:44:40,275 not only would Jason have to convincingly swing his machete, 2486 01:44:40,567 --> 01:44:44,070 he would have to show 2487 01:44:44,362 --> 01:44:47,782 that even an unstoppable force of nature could have feelings. 2488 01:44:48,074 --> 01:44:50,160 One of the people that we'd seen early on 2489 01:44:50,452 --> 01:44:53,955 was a big-time stunt player in Vancouver named Ken Kirzinger. 2490 01:44:54,247 --> 01:44:56,040 Jeff Katz who was at New Line 2491 01:44:56,332 --> 01:45:01,045 so passionately wanted to cast Ken Kirzinger as Jason. 2492 01:45:01,337 --> 01:45:02,380 He just thought he would bring something special. 2493 01:45:02,672 --> 01:45:05,049 Something in the eyes he saw different or better. 2494 01:45:05,341 --> 01:45:08,553 As it was put to me when I auditioned for it, 2495 01:45:08,845 --> 01:45:12,474 is they wanted to convey some emotion in Jason. 2496 01:45:12,766 --> 01:45:15,560 Actually he had been a stunt double of Kane Hodder, I think, 2497 01:45:15,852 --> 01:45:19,522 on one of the Jason films. 2498 01:45:19,814 --> 01:45:22,192 In JASON TAKES MANHATTAN 2499 01:45:22,484 --> 01:45:25,195 there was a shot where Jason gets hit by a police car 2500 01:45:25,487 --> 01:45:29,073 and since Ken Kirzinger was doing the stunts 2501 01:45:29,365 --> 01:45:33,828 on the show too, he doubled me for that shot. 2502 01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:35,997 That was a question that I put to them at the beginning. 2503 01:45:36,289 --> 01:45:37,791 Like, you know, 2504 01:45:38,082 --> 01:45:39,250 because Kane had sort of established the character, 2505 01:45:39,542 --> 01:45:41,336 did they want some of the trademark moves 2506 01:45:41,628 --> 01:45:44,672 that Kane does, you know, the deep breath and stuff, 2507 01:45:44,964 --> 01:45:48,009 and they didn't. 2508 01:45:48,301 --> 01:45:51,429 They really wanted a more unique character 2509 01:45:51,721 --> 01:45:54,432 and Ronny Yu and I had some discussions about, you know, 2510 01:45:54,724 --> 01:45:56,059 movement and the fact that they wanted to do 2511 01:45:56,351 --> 01:45:57,977 a lot of close-ups on the eyes. 2512 01:45:58,269 --> 01:46:00,230 He was big enough. His attitude was good. 2513 01:46:00,522 --> 01:46:05,026 He looked good in the wardrobe. So we cast him. 2514 01:46:05,318 --> 01:46:09,113 I was a little leery because a lot of the feedback I, you know, 2515 01:46:09,405 --> 01:46:10,657 that fans were putting out there was negative, I think, 2516 01:46:10,949 --> 01:46:12,408 in the beginning. 2517 01:46:12,700 --> 01:46:13,201 But then when the movie came out, 2518 01:46:13,493 --> 01:46:15,620 it became very, very positive. 2519 01:46:15,912 --> 01:46:19,040 Jason was not the only role to be recast. 2520 01:46:19,332 --> 01:46:21,626 Once again, the script called for the return 2521 01:46:21,918 --> 01:46:24,671 of Jason's maniacal mother. 2522 01:46:24,963 --> 01:46:26,464 We literally underlined cameo, and we wrote in the script 2523 01:46:26,756 --> 01:46:28,341 Betsy Palmer. 2524 01:46:28,633 --> 01:46:30,113 I believe they contacted Betsy Palmer, 2525 01:46:30,260 --> 01:46:32,387 and she was not interested. 2526 01:46:32,679 --> 01:46:35,765 I was asked three times to be in three different pictures 2527 01:46:36,057 --> 01:46:38,184 of FRIDAY THE 13TH, 2528 01:46:38,476 --> 01:46:42,981 and I declined each time. 2529 01:46:43,273 --> 01:46:46,109 First of all, they didn't want to pay any money. 2530 01:46:46,401 --> 01:46:47,986 They probably said, 'Hey, we'll give you a plane flight 2531 01:46:48,278 --> 01:46:49,558 and a sandwich, and she was like, 2532 01:46:49,654 --> 01:46:51,174 'Well, everybody else is getting paid.' 2533 01:46:51,447 --> 01:46:53,741 In the script they had me standing in a graveyard, 2534 01:46:54,033 --> 01:46:55,827 I guess, and saying, you know, 2535 01:46:56,119 --> 01:46:59,080 'You promised me you'd kill all those people.' 2536 01:46:59,372 --> 01:47:02,709 Mommy has something she wants you to do! 2537 01:47:03,001 --> 01:47:04,919 I mean, what sort of lines are that? 2538 01:47:05,211 --> 01:47:07,255 That's nothing for an actress to do, for God's sake. 2539 01:47:07,547 --> 01:47:10,592 Make them remember what fear tastes like! 2540 01:47:10,884 --> 01:47:13,678 Jason finally appears after his mother says like, 2541 01:47:13,970 --> 01:47:15,597 'Wake up. Go get these people.' 2542 01:47:15,889 --> 01:47:18,725 And then he somehow, finds my house. 2543 01:47:19,017 --> 01:47:20,476 I live in the house that Freddy has, you know, 2544 01:47:20,768 --> 01:47:22,437 tortured people for years, 2545 01:47:22,729 --> 01:47:26,274 and then Jason shows up out of nowhere. 2546 01:47:26,566 --> 01:47:28,318 Surprisingly the bed death was not initially popular 2547 01:47:28,610 --> 01:47:30,278 when it was in the script. 2548 01:47:30,570 --> 01:47:31,195 We thought it was one of the highlights of the script, 2549 01:47:31,487 --> 01:47:33,072 but, you know, 2550 01:47:33,364 --> 01:47:33,448 that was something that they wanted us to take out. 2551 01:47:33,740 --> 01:47:35,867 Whoa, babe. 2552 01:47:36,159 --> 01:47:37,160 I told you about kissing me after you smoked. 2553 01:47:37,452 --> 01:47:39,370 He wasn't a very nice guy. 2554 01:47:39,662 --> 01:47:41,873 He used to yell at my friend Gibb a lot, 2555 01:47:42,165 --> 01:47:44,250 played by Katherine Isabelle. 2556 01:47:44,542 --> 01:47:45,585 You know I don't like to be touched after, okay? 2557 01:47:45,877 --> 01:47:48,755 Just mouthing off and Jason literally 2558 01:47:49,047 --> 01:47:51,174 just snapped his mouth and his body shut. 2559 01:47:51,466 --> 01:47:52,634 [screams] 2560 01:47:52,926 --> 01:47:55,178 [giggles] 2561 01:47:55,470 --> 01:47:56,471 You know, and then they said, 'Well, it's too brutal, 2562 01:47:56,763 --> 01:47:57,597 it's too gory, it's too this, it's too that, 2563 01:47:57,889 --> 01:47:59,766 and then we just kept saying, 2564 01:48:00,058 --> 01:48:01,392 'Listen, this is not something you want to cut.' 2565 01:48:01,684 --> 01:48:04,145 That was actually the last day of photography. 2566 01:48:04,437 --> 01:48:06,731 It was the last thing we shot. 2567 01:48:07,023 --> 01:48:09,025 When we went to the first test screening, and that, you know, 2568 01:48:09,317 --> 01:48:10,151 the audience really loved the movie 2569 01:48:10,443 --> 01:48:12,695 and that got the biggest reaction 2570 01:48:12,987 --> 01:48:13,571 and you really couldn't hear any of the dialogue, 2571 01:48:13,863 --> 01:48:15,406 like in the previous scene, 2572 01:48:15,698 --> 01:48:16,616 because people were still cheering. 2573 01:48:16,908 --> 01:48:18,785 It was really satisfying. 2574 01:48:19,077 --> 01:48:20,328 To be drowned in a lake, already have deformity, 2575 01:48:20,620 --> 01:48:22,664 be insecure about it, 2576 01:48:22,956 --> 01:48:24,876 and have to watch your mother's head get cut off, 2577 01:48:24,999 --> 01:48:28,962 I think the fact that he just is killing people isn't that bad. 2578 01:48:29,253 --> 01:48:31,631 With Freddy using Jason as his pawn 2579 01:48:31,923 --> 01:48:33,383 to stalk the kids of Elm Street, 2580 01:48:33,675 --> 01:48:36,844 a cornfield rave sets the stage 2581 01:48:37,136 --> 01:48:40,390 for one of the film's biggest and bloodiest set pieces. 2582 01:48:40,682 --> 01:48:43,476 The cornfield massacre is one of my favorite one. 2583 01:48:43,768 --> 01:48:47,313 I loved the burning Jason, you know, 2584 01:48:47,605 --> 01:48:50,191 going after the kids with a machete. 2585 01:48:50,483 --> 01:48:51,818 That was, that was the most difficult sequence in the movie 2586 01:48:52,110 --> 01:48:54,278 without question. 2587 01:48:54,570 --> 01:48:56,489 First of all, it smelled to high heaven 2588 01:48:56,781 --> 01:48:59,325 because it was actually like the cow field 2589 01:48:59,617 --> 01:49:02,537 and just the smell of the manure or whatever 2590 01:49:02,829 --> 01:49:06,290 was horrible. 2591 01:49:06,582 --> 01:49:09,460 I think there were like 400 or 500 extras in that scene. 2592 01:49:09,752 --> 01:49:12,714 Those kids that were smoking pot said 2593 01:49:13,006 --> 01:49:16,467 Why don't you go find yourself a pig to fuck? 2594 01:49:16,759 --> 01:49:18,845 And they called him a corn poke. 2595 01:49:19,137 --> 01:49:21,556 And that's when he just breaks his neck, 2596 01:49:21,848 --> 01:49:24,517 and, I don't know, once again he felt like ostracized 2597 01:49:24,809 --> 01:49:25,935 and like he didn't fit in. 2598 01:49:26,227 --> 01:49:27,812 Maybe he was just there to party. 2599 01:49:28,104 --> 01:49:29,104 I don't know. 2600 01:49:29,188 --> 01:49:31,232 Burn, motherfucker! 2601 01:49:31,524 --> 01:49:35,111 But shooting that sequence is really tough 2602 01:49:35,403 --> 01:49:38,364 because lighting fire in a dry cornfield 2603 01:49:38,656 --> 01:49:42,493 is the most dangerous request. 2604 01:49:42,785 --> 01:49:45,246 When they gave me the part of Jason, 2605 01:49:45,538 --> 01:49:47,290 they made a point of telling me, 2606 01:49:47,582 --> 01:49:49,292 'Ken, you're an actor on this movie. 2607 01:49:49,584 --> 01:49:51,264 We're going to have a stunt double for you. 2608 01:49:51,544 --> 01:49:53,212 You know, we don't want you getting hurt.' 2609 01:49:53,504 --> 01:49:56,215 And I went to them and I said, 'Listen, you know, 2610 01:49:56,507 --> 01:49:58,827 there's one stunt I really, really want to do in the movie, 2611 01:49:58,885 --> 01:50:01,095 and that's the fire burn in the cornfield.' 2612 01:50:01,387 --> 01:50:04,265 Very, very dangerous because you could only, 2613 01:50:04,557 --> 01:50:06,601 an actor or stunt actor could only be in a burn suit 2614 01:50:06,893 --> 01:50:09,395 and burn for 30 seconds maximum. 2615 01:50:09,687 --> 01:50:10,563 And they wouldn't let me do it. 2616 01:50:10,855 --> 01:50:12,899 And I was really disappointed 2617 01:50:13,191 --> 01:50:15,068 because that should have won the stuntman's awards that year. 2618 01:50:15,359 --> 01:50:19,238 You know, the big top shot of seeing this burning, 2619 01:50:19,530 --> 01:50:21,824 burning figure just running, 2620 01:50:22,116 --> 01:50:24,660 running across the cornfield 2621 01:50:24,952 --> 01:50:27,246 creating a path, for me, that visual, that image is, 2622 01:50:27,538 --> 01:50:30,083 I thought is fantastic. 2623 01:50:30,374 --> 01:50:32,335 It took forever for them to figure out 2624 01:50:32,627 --> 01:50:34,837 how to keep this machete on fire. 2625 01:50:35,129 --> 01:50:37,298 They had to keep putting like petroleum 2626 01:50:37,590 --> 01:50:38,716 and all this stuff, and we would do like part of a take 2627 01:50:39,008 --> 01:50:41,135 and then it would burn out. 2628 01:50:41,427 --> 01:50:44,305 And, so, that was a very, very long night of shooting. 2629 01:50:44,597 --> 01:50:46,349 Some of the extras, some of the kids, 2630 01:50:46,641 --> 01:50:50,061 didn't know that a burning Jason 2631 01:50:50,353 --> 01:50:52,980 going to dash out from the cornfield. 2632 01:50:53,272 --> 01:50:57,276 So some of the reaction from their faces are real. 2633 01:50:57,568 --> 01:51:00,530 Jason probably did more damage, had more carnage in that scene 2634 01:51:00,822 --> 01:51:03,199 than several of the movies he's been in before. 2635 01:51:03,491 --> 01:51:05,201 We need those pills. 2636 01:51:05,493 --> 01:51:07,120 Can you get us back to Westin Hills? 2637 01:51:07,411 --> 01:51:09,205 We're going to get some of the Hypnocil 2638 01:51:09,497 --> 01:51:11,537 so that we don't dream, so that Freddy can't get us. 2639 01:51:11,582 --> 01:51:13,376 Jason shows up and starts causing shit, 2640 01:51:13,668 --> 01:51:15,670 as he is want to do. 2641 01:51:15,962 --> 01:51:20,216 He had to break through the glass door with the machete 2642 01:51:20,508 --> 01:51:21,843 and Kelly Rowland and I 2643 01:51:22,135 --> 01:51:25,847 were screaming at the top of our lungs. 2644 01:51:26,139 --> 01:51:30,268 L've never been... so terrified, 2645 01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:33,479 and I didn't know the line between reality and fantasy. 2646 01:51:33,771 --> 01:51:35,690 My favorite personal part of the film is, 2647 01:51:35,982 --> 01:51:37,859 for my character, is the big standoff 2648 01:51:38,151 --> 01:51:39,671 where I'm actually possessed by Freddy. 2649 01:51:39,902 --> 01:51:41,737 Let me handle this, bitch. 2650 01:51:42,029 --> 01:51:43,948 And Jason comes down the hallway, 2651 01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:46,159 and he comes up and ba-bam into the neck, 2652 01:51:46,450 --> 01:51:49,662 plunge him in... 2653 01:51:49,954 --> 01:51:54,000 Sliced right in half. 2654 01:51:54,292 --> 01:51:55,692 Which is a pretty awesome way to go. 2655 01:51:55,835 --> 01:51:58,796 You need to have one guy 2656 01:51:59,088 --> 01:52:03,050 that the audience should invest a little bit of their emotion. 2657 01:52:03,342 --> 01:52:06,053 And for me, personally, 2658 01:52:06,345 --> 01:52:09,140 I thought we should invest a little bit more on Jason. 2659 01:52:09,432 --> 01:52:11,350 Dude, that goalie was pissed about something. 2660 01:52:11,642 --> 01:52:14,020 Freddy obviously, even before he became Freddy Krueger 2661 01:52:14,312 --> 01:52:16,232 and was a burn victim and this crazy dream demon, 2662 01:52:16,522 --> 01:52:18,149 he was a bad guy. 2663 01:52:18,441 --> 01:52:23,446 Jason was just trying to go to camp and have a good summer. 2664 01:52:23,738 --> 01:52:25,907 When Lori enters the dream world of Jason Voorhees, 2665 01:52:26,199 --> 01:52:28,492 she witnesses the childhood tragedy 2666 01:52:28,784 --> 01:52:31,454 that unleashed his inner rage. 2667 01:52:31,746 --> 01:52:34,624 In FREDDY VS. JASON you see him confronted by fears 2668 01:52:34,916 --> 01:52:38,377 that he never had before or people didn't realize 2669 01:52:38,669 --> 01:52:40,129 or wasn't shown in the other movies. 2670 01:52:40,421 --> 01:52:46,093 So you are afraid of something after all, huh? 2671 01:52:46,385 --> 01:52:48,512 Just knowing myself, I would have tried to fight 2672 01:52:48,804 --> 01:52:51,474 against the Jason-fearing-water part of that movie. 2673 01:52:51,766 --> 01:52:54,560 I just want to put the record straight. 2674 01:52:54,852 --> 01:52:56,729 We never said that Jason was afraid of water. 2675 01:52:57,021 --> 01:52:58,981 We never wrote that. That was not in our script. 2676 01:52:59,273 --> 01:53:00,316 - Very important. - That was not in our screenplay. 2677 01:53:00,608 --> 01:53:01,234 That would, that came afterwards. 2678 01:53:01,525 --> 01:53:02,860 That was in a re-write. 2679 01:53:03,152 --> 01:53:06,197 All we wanted to do was say 2680 01:53:06,489 --> 01:53:09,951 that Jason perhaps would have a subconscious fear of drowning. 2681 01:53:10,243 --> 01:53:12,787 And there was some debate of, 2682 01:53:13,079 --> 01:53:17,291 in that scene where you see Freddy's blade 2683 01:53:17,583 --> 01:53:22,129 going into the little poor kid's brain. 2684 01:53:22,421 --> 01:53:25,299 But there is a flashback to when I go back to Camp Crystal Lake 2685 01:53:25,591 --> 01:53:27,218 to try to save him. 2686 01:53:27,510 --> 01:53:29,870 I really genuinely cared for him and saw him in a new light. 2687 01:53:30,137 --> 01:53:32,177 I got to see him as a little boy that was picked on. 2688 01:53:32,306 --> 01:53:33,516 If I had been there, 2689 01:53:33,808 --> 01:53:35,142 I would have killed all those horrible camp counselors 2690 01:53:35,434 --> 01:53:36,936 and stuff. 2691 01:53:37,228 --> 01:53:37,979 Throwing him in the lake and teasing him. 2692 01:53:38,271 --> 01:53:39,397 It was awful. 2693 01:53:39,689 --> 01:53:41,857 JASON VOORHEES?! 2694 01:53:42,149 --> 01:53:44,235 And sort of for the first time, I think, 2695 01:53:44,527 --> 01:53:47,113 in FREDDY VS. JASON, they touched on that, 2696 01:53:47,405 --> 01:53:49,125 and I think that would be really interesting 2697 01:53:49,156 --> 01:53:50,700 to get into Jason's head more. 2698 01:53:50,992 --> 01:53:53,828 While Elm Street is said to be located 2699 01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:56,455 in the fictional town of Springwood, Ohio, 2700 01:53:56,747 --> 01:54:00,001 Crystal Lake is approximately 600 miles away 2701 01:54:00,293 --> 01:54:02,545 in rural New Jersey. 2702 01:54:02,837 --> 01:54:05,840 Fans have asked, how were Lori and her friends 2703 01:54:06,132 --> 01:54:08,718 able to get Jason back to Crystal Lake in record time? 2704 01:54:09,010 --> 01:54:11,595 Where is Crystal Lake located? 2705 01:54:11,887 --> 01:54:14,181 That was a big problem for us in FREDDY VS. JASON. 2706 01:54:14,473 --> 01:54:17,059 We had to get them to be able to drive there. 2707 01:54:17,351 --> 01:54:18,561 But for us it was important that it was far, 2708 01:54:18,853 --> 01:54:20,813 like those two things. 2709 01:54:21,105 --> 01:54:21,856 So we had all these scenes where they were going like 2710 01:54:22,148 --> 01:54:23,190 all night and all day, and of course, 2711 01:54:23,482 --> 01:54:24,922 when the movie gets cut it looks like 2712 01:54:25,151 --> 01:54:26,110 they're like right next to each other. 2713 01:54:26,402 --> 01:54:27,695 Look, we're almost there. 2714 01:54:27,987 --> 01:54:30,990 Jason is in the back of a van. 2715 01:54:31,282 --> 01:54:32,908 They've got him all taped up, and they've been drugging him. 2716 01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:35,870 Kelly Rowland despised the scene 2717 01:54:36,162 --> 01:54:37,842 where she had to give Jason mouth-to-mouth. 2718 01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:40,124 As much as I'm saying I loved Jason now, 2719 01:54:40,416 --> 01:54:44,086 and I have a certain compassion and empathy for him, 2720 01:54:44,378 --> 01:54:45,963 I don't know that I'd want to give him mouth-to-mouth. 2721 01:54:46,255 --> 01:54:47,840 [sputtering sounds] 2722 01:54:48,132 --> 01:54:51,135 And then the drugs wear off, and the van flips, 2723 01:54:51,427 --> 01:54:53,307 and he comes shooting out of the back of the van 2724 01:54:53,387 --> 01:54:55,014 which is probably the biggest stunt I did on the movie. 2725 01:54:55,306 --> 01:54:58,267 The mother of all battles between Jason and Freddy 2726 01:54:58,559 --> 01:55:00,978 is waged in the real world, 2727 01:55:01,270 --> 01:55:03,105 and on Jason's home turf. 2728 01:55:03,397 --> 01:55:05,733 The moment of truth had arrived. 2729 01:55:06,025 --> 01:55:08,903 For fans awaiting the ultimate slasher slugfest, 2730 01:55:09,195 --> 01:55:12,573 the time had come to place their bets. 2731 01:55:12,865 --> 01:55:16,994 My philosophy is everything in the movie 2732 01:55:17,286 --> 01:55:20,164 should set up for the end fight. 2733 01:55:20,456 --> 01:55:23,334 Yeah, that was an amazing, amazing finale there. 2734 01:55:23,626 --> 01:55:26,754 I'm like wrestling with a 6 foot 7 Canadian stuntman 2735 01:55:27,046 --> 01:55:28,881 who's been in over 100 movies 2736 01:55:29,173 --> 01:55:30,591 and is buff and hard and can drink me under the table, 2737 01:55:30,883 --> 01:55:32,385 and it was a rough shoot. 2738 01:55:32,676 --> 01:55:34,387 I did a lot of my stunts. 2739 01:55:34,678 --> 01:55:35,846 You know, I think Freddy got the best of that one. 2740 01:55:36,138 --> 01:55:38,057 He's pretty much kicking his ass the whole time. 2741 01:55:38,349 --> 01:55:39,433 I think there were a couple moments where I felt 2742 01:55:39,725 --> 01:55:40,976 kind of maybe crossed the line a little bit, 2743 01:55:41,268 --> 01:55:42,228 where we wanted to have Jason to kick his ass 2744 01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:43,229 a little bit more. 2745 01:55:43,521 --> 01:55:45,147 Hey, asshole! 2746 01:55:45,439 --> 01:55:47,650 Originally in ours it was 2747 01:55:47,942 --> 01:55:49,735 - He calls him a mama's boy. - Mama's boy. 2748 01:55:50,027 --> 01:55:51,612 Which I thought was good, you know. 2749 01:55:51,904 --> 01:55:53,322 He's a little character related. Calls Jason a mama's boy. 2750 01:55:53,614 --> 01:55:55,616 And they changed it to 'Hey, Asshole.' 2751 01:55:55,908 --> 01:55:58,244 And I remember backing up in the scene and saying... 2752 01:55:58,536 --> 01:56:02,331 Freddy vs. Jason, place your bets! 2753 01:56:02,623 --> 01:56:04,792 And it never actually ended up being in the movie. 2754 01:56:05,084 --> 01:56:07,336 I still don't know why they cut it. 2755 01:56:07,628 --> 01:56:11,507 Place your bet was not in script, and I didn't shoot it. 2756 01:56:11,799 --> 01:56:14,718 It's basically just for the, for the trailer. 2757 01:56:15,010 --> 01:56:18,639 Quentin Tarantino saw the movie and was so disappointed. 2758 01:56:18,931 --> 01:56:20,331 He went to the premiere and he said, 2759 01:56:20,391 --> 01:56:21,559 'Where's the place your bets? 2760 01:56:21,851 --> 01:56:22,977 That's what made me want to see it.' 2761 01:56:23,269 --> 01:56:25,980 At the end with the set piece, 2762 01:56:26,272 --> 01:56:29,316 we involved with all different special effects, 2763 01:56:29,608 --> 01:56:35,823 like, you know, fire, water, wind, smoke, explosions. 2764 01:56:36,115 --> 01:56:37,575 One of the bloodiest battles you'll ever see in a movie. 2765 01:56:37,867 --> 01:56:39,187 And that was all Ronny Yu's doing. 2766 01:56:39,285 --> 01:56:41,745 And none of it was CG. 2767 01:56:42,037 --> 01:56:45,749 We'd have sometimes six hoses going in 2768 01:56:46,041 --> 01:56:47,793 and blood spraying everywhere and Ronny still screaming, 2769 01:56:48,085 --> 01:56:50,337 'More blood! More blood! 2770 01:56:50,629 --> 01:56:51,755 We were like, this looks like a Monty Python movie, 2771 01:56:52,047 --> 01:56:53,007 I mean the amount of blood spraying, 2772 01:56:53,299 --> 01:56:54,299 it was unbelievable. 2773 01:56:54,508 --> 01:56:56,093 So over the top, 2774 01:56:56,385 --> 01:56:58,220 the violence and everything 2775 01:56:58,512 --> 01:57:01,056 that the audience would laugh at the violence 2776 01:57:01,348 --> 01:57:03,642 rather than really affected by the violence. 2777 01:57:03,934 --> 01:57:06,937 Jason, he and I almost became teammates. 2778 01:57:07,229 --> 01:57:09,815 And we were both against Freddy, 2779 01:57:10,107 --> 01:57:13,152 and he actually saved my life in the end 2780 01:57:13,444 --> 01:57:16,405 when Freddy was about to kill me on the dock 2781 01:57:16,697 --> 01:57:17,857 at the very end of the movie. 2782 01:57:17,948 --> 01:57:19,283 And so he was protecting me. 2783 01:57:19,575 --> 01:57:22,828 Welcome to my world - BITCH! 2784 01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:25,040 He allowed me to be able to cut Freddy's head off 2785 01:57:25,164 --> 01:57:26,165 at the end and kill him. 2786 01:57:26,457 --> 01:57:28,667 And I really felt like he and I 2787 01:57:28,959 --> 01:57:31,962 had some sort of bond or connection. 2788 01:57:32,254 --> 01:57:34,423 Out of respect, I throw the machete back in the water. 2789 01:57:34,715 --> 01:57:36,800 So in the end who won? 2790 01:57:37,092 --> 01:57:38,636 The claw or the machete? 2791 01:57:38,928 --> 01:57:40,262 Fans of both franchises 2792 01:57:40,554 --> 01:57:42,723 were equally passionate, 2793 01:57:43,015 --> 01:57:45,575 and New Line feared that tipping the scales in either one's favor 2794 01:57:45,643 --> 01:57:47,937 would alienate just as many as it would appease. 2795 01:57:48,229 --> 01:57:50,856 I always have problem with the original ending. 2796 01:57:51,148 --> 01:57:52,191 I hated the ending. 2797 01:57:52,483 --> 01:57:55,986 I thought is a wrong focus. 2798 01:57:56,278 --> 01:58:00,282 Well, the original ending was that it's six months later, 2799 01:58:00,574 --> 01:58:02,952 and Jason Ritter and I are in bed together 2800 01:58:03,244 --> 01:58:08,582 and then he turns into Freddy at the end. 2801 01:58:08,874 --> 01:58:11,001 Which I thought was really interesting. 2802 01:58:11,293 --> 01:58:15,256 And we test screened it and then the audience loved the movie 2803 01:58:15,548 --> 01:58:17,466 but hated the ending. 2804 01:58:17,758 --> 01:58:19,843 That's how they decided to do the re-shoot 2805 01:58:20,135 --> 01:58:22,513 which I was a part of. 2806 01:58:22,805 --> 01:58:25,766 Originally I was up for the role of Jason, 2807 01:58:26,058 --> 01:58:29,228 and I had had several callbacks for the part, 2808 01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:31,855 but months later I got a call to do the re-shoots 2809 01:58:32,147 --> 01:58:33,627 to play Jason and I was just thrilled. 2810 01:58:33,774 --> 01:58:35,484 I was like, 'Oh my God. 2811 01:58:35,776 --> 01:58:36,735 I'm going to actually get to do this.' 2812 01:58:37,027 --> 01:58:39,613 Not only did I get to step behind that mask, 2813 01:58:39,905 --> 01:58:43,033 but I got to play Jason in a film 2814 01:58:43,325 --> 01:58:45,494 with Robert Englund, Freddy Krueger. 2815 01:58:45,786 --> 01:58:48,581 Ultimately, FREDDY VS. JASON 2816 01:58:48,872 --> 01:58:51,125 would end not with a whimper or a bang... 2817 01:58:51,417 --> 01:58:53,043 but a wink. 2818 01:58:53,335 --> 01:58:57,673 I would say that Jason won the fight, 2819 01:58:57,965 --> 01:58:59,967 but the war might not be over. 2820 01:59:00,259 --> 01:59:01,635 Look, Freddy's the one who doesn't have a head 2821 01:59:01,927 --> 01:59:04,263 at the end of it, now granted he winks. 2822 01:59:04,555 --> 01:59:06,475 But I think the ending, what was great about that 2823 01:59:06,682 --> 01:59:08,017 was the great Rorschach test for the fans. 2824 01:59:08,309 --> 01:59:10,109 You got the Robert Englund/Freddy Krueger fans 2825 01:59:10,394 --> 01:59:11,520 who say Robert Englund won. 2826 01:59:11,812 --> 01:59:12,021 You got the Jason fans say Jason won. 2827 01:59:12,313 --> 01:59:15,858 It's kind of left up in the air. 2828 01:59:16,150 --> 01:59:17,610 It gets people talking. 2829 01:59:17,901 --> 01:59:19,737 I spent three years 2830 01:59:20,029 --> 01:59:20,779 working in the professional wrestling industry, 2831 01:59:21,071 --> 01:59:22,406 so I learned very early on 2832 01:59:22,698 --> 01:59:23,824 that even if someone seems to have won, 2833 01:59:24,116 --> 01:59:25,200 the feud will go on. 2834 01:59:25,492 --> 01:59:27,453 Freddy or Jason, who won? 2835 01:59:27,745 --> 01:59:30,581 Me! I won! 2836 01:59:30,873 --> 01:59:35,085 I made Freddy defeat Jason and then I killed Freddy! 2837 01:59:35,377 --> 01:59:38,172 So I'm the winner. I'm the victor. I won! 2838 01:59:38,464 --> 01:59:40,507 In anticipation of the film's release, 2839 01:59:40,799 --> 01:59:44,053 New Line put the FREDDY VS. JASON publicity machine 2840 01:59:44,345 --> 01:59:46,889 into hyper-drive with a pre-fight press conference 2841 01:59:47,181 --> 01:59:49,099 and boxing event held in Las Vegas. 2842 01:59:49,391 --> 01:59:52,019 What's the matter? 2843 01:59:52,311 --> 01:59:53,479 Can't you speak for yourself, hockey puck? 2844 01:59:53,771 --> 01:59:56,857 Soon Jason Voorhees was everywhere. 2845 01:59:57,149 --> 01:59:59,777 From officially licensed hats and mugs, 2846 02:00:00,069 --> 02:00:03,405 to comic books and even children's lunch boxes. 2847 02:00:03,697 --> 02:00:06,158 And for the first time in his more than twenty-year history, 2848 02:00:06,450 --> 02:00:09,870 Jason was even given a proper Hollywood premiere. 2849 02:00:10,162 --> 02:00:12,206 It's something the fans have wanted. 2850 02:00:12,498 --> 02:00:16,460 It was, that's really a fan-inspired film, 2851 02:00:16,752 --> 02:00:19,963 and that's probably one reason it did 135 million worldwide. 2852 02:00:20,255 --> 02:00:21,382 When the movie came out it was the highest horror opening 2853 02:00:21,674 --> 02:00:23,467 of all time, 2854 02:00:23,759 --> 02:00:25,839 and I think it was the highest grossing of the bunch. 2855 02:00:26,011 --> 02:00:29,056 I think it opened to $25 million or something the first weekend. 2856 02:00:29,348 --> 02:00:30,683 It was incredible. 2857 02:00:30,974 --> 02:00:32,768 But to those who toiled in the early years 2858 02:00:33,060 --> 02:00:34,728 of both franchises, 2859 02:00:35,020 --> 02:00:39,483 FREDDY VS. JASON was more hype than holy grail. 2860 02:00:39,775 --> 02:00:43,362 After seeing the movie, I guess I was kind of hoping 2861 02:00:43,654 --> 02:00:46,865 that I would see a scene to say, 2862 02:00:47,157 --> 02:00:48,909 'Oh, that's why.' 2863 02:00:49,201 --> 02:00:53,831 But honestly there's nothing in the movie that I saw 2864 02:00:54,123 --> 02:00:56,834 that I wouldn't have been able to do. 2865 02:00:57,126 --> 02:00:59,461 I went to see the film. 2866 02:00:59,753 --> 02:01:02,464 I found it really just kind of brutal 2867 02:01:02,756 --> 02:01:05,175 without being very imaginative. 2868 02:01:05,467 --> 02:01:06,844 I love Ronny and I think he did an excellent job? 2869 02:01:07,136 --> 02:01:09,136 But you know, he was maybe a little more influenced 2870 02:01:09,221 --> 02:01:11,432 by WWE type stuff and you know, 2871 02:01:11,724 --> 02:01:13,100 you can see that in the film, and that's not a criticism. 2872 02:01:13,392 --> 02:01:14,768 But definitely in our screenplay, 2873 02:01:15,060 --> 02:01:16,270 we thought that there would be scenes, 2874 02:01:16,562 --> 02:01:18,082 maybe there'd be a little more tension. 2875 02:01:18,313 --> 02:01:19,106 While it's got its faults, I think it was pretty true 2876 02:01:19,398 --> 02:01:21,108 to the spirit of those characters 2877 02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:23,068 and tried to show a little love for the continuity 2878 02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:25,487 which was very much intentional. 2879 02:01:25,779 --> 02:01:28,073 It was able to sort of help breathe a little new life back 2880 02:01:28,365 --> 02:01:30,033 into the genre on the whole. 2881 02:01:30,325 --> 02:01:32,619 After the film's record-breaking success, 2882 02:01:32,911 --> 02:01:35,497 the question was inevitably asked, 2883 02:01:35,789 --> 02:01:37,750 would there be a rematch? 2884 02:01:38,041 --> 02:01:41,044 At that time I just thought, you know, great. 2885 02:01:41,336 --> 02:01:43,672 We should do THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY 2886 02:01:43,964 --> 02:01:47,426 type of movie with the HALLOWEEN guy, you know. 2887 02:01:47,718 --> 02:01:50,471 The Myer vs. Jason vs. Freddy. 2888 02:01:50,763 --> 02:01:52,139 But then you've got two kind of quiet killers. 2889 02:01:52,431 --> 02:01:53,974 I think it's kind of an overkill there. 2890 02:01:54,266 --> 02:01:55,642 There were some interesting ideas at one time. 2891 02:01:55,934 --> 02:01:58,103 There was a, you know, a Freddy vs. Ash vs. Jason 2892 02:01:58,395 --> 02:02:00,272 that was talked about 2893 02:02:00,564 --> 02:02:02,941 which I think that Sam Raimi wanted Bruce Campbell to win 2894 02:02:03,233 --> 02:02:04,359 which I thought was a terrific idea. 2895 02:02:04,651 --> 02:02:06,862 You know, making the world safe from sequels... Ash. 2896 02:02:07,154 --> 02:02:09,072 Sam and the camp are very interested. 2897 02:02:09,364 --> 02:02:11,244 We negotiated sort of on and off over two years. 2898 02:02:11,492 --> 02:02:12,743 As is the nature of Hollywood, deal making, 2899 02:02:13,035 --> 02:02:14,161 it comes and it goes. 2900 02:02:14,453 --> 02:02:16,121 We try again and it comes and it goes 2901 02:02:16,413 --> 02:02:18,123 until ultimately the deal's just not going to make. 2902 02:02:18,415 --> 02:02:19,082 Well, I love EVIL DEAD. I love EVIL DEAD II. 2903 02:02:19,374 --> 02:02:20,374 I love Ash. 2904 02:02:20,417 --> 02:02:22,002 Groovy! 2905 02:02:22,294 --> 02:02:24,414 But I think that that would be even harder than it was 2906 02:02:24,546 --> 02:02:25,255 to pull off FREDDY VS. JASON and as you can see, 2907 02:02:25,547 --> 02:02:27,257 it wasn't that easy. 2908 02:02:27,549 --> 02:02:28,634 But I think that's perfect idea for a comic. 2909 02:02:28,926 --> 02:02:30,594 Several years later in actuality, 2910 02:02:30,886 --> 02:02:32,012 David lmhoff at New Line Licensing at the time said, 2911 02:02:32,304 --> 02:02:34,348 'You know what? 2912 02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:35,974 We should take the treatment that I had written for the film 2913 02:02:36,266 --> 02:02:37,142 and let's go do this and do it as a comic. 2914 02:02:37,434 --> 02:02:39,520 At my last horror convention, 2915 02:02:39,812 --> 02:02:42,397 one of these fans brought up to me this comic book 2916 02:02:42,689 --> 02:02:45,692 FREDDY VS. JASON VS. ASH and I said, 2917 02:02:45,984 --> 02:02:47,584 'Where did you get this? This is amazing. 2918 02:02:47,778 --> 02:02:48,904 This is what the sequel was supposed to be.' 2919 02:02:49,196 --> 02:02:50,489 And he said, 'I know. 2920 02:02:50,781 --> 02:02:53,617 Do you want to see it? You're in it.' 2921 02:02:53,909 --> 02:02:54,493 The heroine from the first one always has to die pretty quickly 2922 02:02:54,785 --> 02:02:56,829 in the second one. 2923 02:02:57,120 --> 02:02:59,540 But you know who kills me? 2924 02:02:59,832 --> 02:03:02,042 Jason. 2925 02:03:02,334 --> 02:03:06,755 Two pages in, I have a machete hacking through my head. 2926 02:03:07,047 --> 02:03:08,967 And he wouldn't even have that machete to kill me 2927 02:03:09,132 --> 02:03:11,343 unless I returned it to him. I did the right thing. 2928 02:03:11,635 --> 02:03:14,721 And then he cuts my face in half? 2929 02:03:15,013 --> 02:03:16,974 Freddy hadn't even shown up on the scene yet. 2930 02:03:17,266 --> 02:03:20,185 I changed my mind. He doesn't have morals. 2931 02:03:20,477 --> 02:03:22,229 He's just a heartless, soulless killer. 2932 02:03:22,521 --> 02:03:24,731 I'm very honored and at a large level 2933 02:03:25,023 --> 02:03:27,609 kind of humbled that in comics now 2934 02:03:27,901 --> 02:03:29,221 we sort of have the responsibility 2935 02:03:29,361 --> 02:03:30,961 of keeping the original continuity going, 2936 02:03:30,988 --> 02:03:33,699 and FREDDY-JASON-ASH because it was going to be 2937 02:03:33,991 --> 02:03:34,366 the legitimate sequel and that was the take 2938 02:03:34,658 --> 02:03:36,410 we were going to use, 2939 02:03:36,702 --> 02:03:38,787 it's an incredible honor because it's basically, 2940 02:03:39,079 --> 02:03:41,373 to the fans like myself that care about the continuity 2941 02:03:41,665 --> 02:03:42,541 and want to know where Tommy Jarvis has been 2942 02:03:42,833 --> 02:03:44,585 and what he's doing, 2943 02:03:44,877 --> 02:03:46,211 it's a thrill to get to kind of deliver that 2944 02:03:46,503 --> 02:03:47,754 for them ultimately. 2945 02:03:48,046 --> 02:03:49,423 And at least let the people 2946 02:03:49,715 --> 02:03:51,216 that want to keep the Freddy and Jason 2947 02:03:51,508 --> 02:03:52,788 that they grew up with and love, 2948 02:03:52,885 --> 02:03:55,178 let them sort of keep living on in another medium 2949 02:03:55,470 --> 02:03:57,510 while these new sort of re-interpretations are done. 2950 02:03:57,556 --> 02:03:59,850 Of course I'm very happy and very excited 2951 02:04:00,142 --> 02:04:01,518 with the end result. 2952 02:04:01,810 --> 02:04:04,187 But more importantly, 2953 02:04:04,479 --> 02:04:06,273 I just felt that my instinct was right 2954 02:04:06,565 --> 02:04:09,401 in the very, very beginning. 2955 02:04:09,693 --> 02:04:13,697 I'm so happy that the audience also endorsed that, 2956 02:04:13,989 --> 02:04:16,950 endorsed my gut feeling. 2957 02:04:17,242 --> 02:04:18,869 You know, we love NIGHTMARE and FRIDAY, 2958 02:04:19,161 --> 02:04:23,248 and, you know, we were, you know, stewards of it, I guess, 2959 02:04:23,540 --> 02:04:24,708 a little bit, you know, for a short period of time, 2960 02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:26,793 and, you know, we always try to do our best. 2961 02:04:27,085 --> 02:04:28,805 We always put our, you know, the fans first, 2962 02:04:28,962 --> 02:04:30,762 and, you know, hopefully some people out there 2963 02:04:30,881 --> 02:04:35,881 think we did an okay job. 2964 02:04:47,022 --> 02:04:49,303 Two months after the box office smash of FREDDY VS. JASON, 2965 02:04:49,441 --> 02:04:52,778 another horror icon was given a new lease on life 2966 02:04:53,070 --> 02:04:57,074 With 2003s THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE. 2967 02:04:57,366 --> 02:05:00,577 This time, it was neither a sequel nor a crossover 2968 02:05:00,869 --> 02:05:01,703 that left audiences screaming. 2969 02:05:01,995 --> 02:05:04,665 It was a remake. 2970 02:05:04,957 --> 02:05:08,085 If the mother of all slasher films was no longer sacred, 2971 02:05:08,377 --> 02:05:11,505 then a remake of FRIDAY THE 13TH seemed inevitable. 2972 02:05:11,797 --> 02:05:14,007 Platinum Dunes is a company I started with Michael Bay 2973 02:05:14,299 --> 02:05:15,717 and Andrew Form, my two partners, 2974 02:05:16,009 --> 02:05:19,179 and I knew that New Line had the rights to FRIDAY THE 13TH. 2975 02:05:19,471 --> 02:05:20,305 That was a title that we'd always talked about 2976 02:05:20,597 --> 02:05:21,682 wanting to make. 2977 02:05:21,974 --> 02:05:23,600 I guess when you do a remake 2978 02:05:23,892 --> 02:05:25,936 you sort of play with people's expectations. 2979 02:05:26,228 --> 02:05:29,731 You try to know what those expectations are 2980 02:05:30,023 --> 02:05:31,858 and you give them what they want 2981 02:05:32,150 --> 02:05:34,653 but not what they expect. 2982 02:05:34,945 --> 02:05:37,614 I rang Marcus up and I said, 'Marcus, you know, 2983 02:05:37,906 --> 02:05:40,075 I'm not quite sure why we're doing this film.' 2984 02:05:40,367 --> 02:05:45,163 And he explained to me that he had enjoyed a great success 2985 02:05:45,455 --> 02:05:49,459 with THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE remake and that, you know, 2986 02:05:49,751 --> 02:05:51,031 basically he was taking this film 2987 02:05:51,211 --> 02:05:53,130 because he felt like his career needed 2988 02:05:53,422 --> 02:05:54,756 that shot in the arm again. 2989 02:05:55,048 --> 02:05:57,759 When I did TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2990 02:05:58,051 --> 02:06:00,332 I was actually surprised to see like the outcry, you know, 2991 02:06:00,429 --> 02:06:01,763 how dare they? 2992 02:06:02,055 --> 02:06:05,267 FRIDAY THE 13TH, in a Way, 2993 02:06:05,559 --> 02:06:09,062 it's less of a holy cow to bring to the butchering block. 2994 02:06:09,354 --> 02:06:12,524 Aided by partner Michael Bay, director of ARMAGEDDON, 2995 02:06:12,816 --> 02:06:14,776 PEARL HARBOR and the TRANSFORMERS series, 2996 02:06:15,068 --> 02:06:17,487 the Platinum Dunes team 2997 02:06:17,779 --> 02:06:19,322 spent the better part of a year securing the rights 2998 02:06:19,614 --> 02:06:20,991 from both studios. 2999 02:06:21,283 --> 02:06:23,785 Yet no one could see the point 3000 02:06:24,077 --> 02:06:26,872 of faithfully retelling the story of Pamela Voorhees 3001 02:06:27,164 --> 02:06:29,332 and her murderous rampage at Camp Crystal Lake. 3002 02:06:29,624 --> 02:06:32,878 The audience wanted Jason. 3003 02:06:33,170 --> 02:06:36,882 So the producers brought back two of the series' biggest fans 3004 02:06:37,174 --> 02:06:40,886 to conceive a new vision of FRIDAY THE 13TH. 3005 02:06:41,178 --> 02:06:43,178 Shannon: As kind of a reaction to FREDDY VS. JASON, 3006 02:06:43,388 --> 02:06:44,548 we wanted to adjust the tone. 3007 02:06:44,639 --> 02:06:46,141 Yeah. 3008 02:06:46,433 --> 02:06:48,185 We wanted to make this less goofy. 3009 02:06:48,477 --> 02:06:49,853 Yeah. 3010 02:06:50,145 --> 02:06:54,733 More serious, a little harder edge. 3011 02:06:55,025 --> 02:06:56,568 Jason didn't kill in the first movie as we know, 3012 02:06:56,860 --> 02:06:58,904 and we didn't want to make a movie 3013 02:06:59,196 --> 02:07:01,636 where, that didn't have Jason, that had Mrs. Voorhees killing. 3014 02:07:01,698 --> 02:07:04,659 So we took elements of the first four. 3015 02:07:04,951 --> 02:07:06,791 We didn't really ever think of it as number 12. 3016 02:07:06,953 --> 02:07:07,996 It was like, you know, this could be 3017 02:07:08,288 --> 02:07:09,206 like we're starting all over again. 3018 02:07:09,498 --> 02:07:10,938 This is the story from the beginning. 3019 02:07:11,124 --> 02:07:13,001 There are many words for making a movie again, 3020 02:07:13,293 --> 02:07:14,836 I think retelling is a fashionable one right now. 3021 02:07:15,128 --> 02:07:17,130 Definitely not a re-imagining 3022 02:07:17,422 --> 02:07:19,716 because we are just basically going back 3023 02:07:20,008 --> 02:07:21,448 to what Jason was in the first place. 3024 02:07:21,510 --> 02:07:23,430 It could have been called a sequel in my opinion. 3025 02:07:23,553 --> 02:07:25,347 A mash up, or a poupou platter. 3026 02:07:25,639 --> 02:07:28,016 More of a hybrid. 3027 02:07:28,308 --> 02:07:29,309 - It was a reboot. - A reintroduction. 3028 02:07:29,601 --> 02:07:30,477 - A potpourri. - A greatest hits. 3029 02:07:30,769 --> 02:07:32,479 I don't even really know what it is. 3030 02:07:32,771 --> 02:07:34,523 From the get-go for me it was always 'this is a reboot' 3031 02:07:34,815 --> 02:07:37,359 and that was sort of drilled into our heads. 3032 02:07:37,651 --> 02:07:40,737 It's a re-box-officin-ing. That's what it is. 3033 02:07:41,029 --> 02:07:44,449 It's sort of the Reader's Digest of slasher films. 3034 02:07:44,741 --> 02:07:46,368 We did not want to say none of these movies happened. 3035 02:07:46,660 --> 02:07:47,869 I mean, it was important for us not to sort of say, 3036 02:07:48,161 --> 02:07:49,496 'Hey, we're starting over and that didn't exist. 3037 02:07:49,788 --> 02:07:51,164 Absolutely. 3038 02:07:51,456 --> 02:07:52,896 That's not something we wanted to do. 3039 02:07:53,041 --> 02:07:53,959 But, of course, you know, they wanted to just call it 3040 02:07:54,251 --> 02:07:54,626 FRIDAY THE 13TH, you know what I mean, 3041 02:07:54,918 --> 02:07:56,503 so it kind of started over. 3042 02:07:56,795 --> 02:07:57,587 But, you know, for me it lives sort of in, 3043 02:07:57,879 --> 02:08:00,215 along with all the others. 3044 02:08:00,507 --> 02:08:02,384 It was really important to us to go back to Crystal Lake. 3045 02:08:02,676 --> 02:08:04,094 It had been a long time since Jason had been there, 3046 02:08:04,386 --> 02:08:07,264 and we loved the setting of the camp. 3047 02:08:07,556 --> 02:08:10,100 This is really a New Jersey story and for some reason, 3048 02:08:10,392 --> 02:08:11,752 we wound up shooting this in Texas. 3049 02:08:11,977 --> 02:08:14,062 There weren't even camps around, you know, 3050 02:08:14,354 --> 02:08:16,606 and not the right type of lakes. 3051 02:08:16,898 --> 02:08:21,361 I don't remember specifically discussing 3052 02:08:21,653 --> 02:08:24,156 where we were geographically in the United States. 3053 02:08:24,447 --> 02:08:26,447 I don't believe that's addressed as to where it is. 3054 02:08:26,616 --> 02:08:28,702 I think it's kind of like in THE SIMPSONS. 3055 02:08:28,994 --> 02:08:30,287 Crystal Lake, I mean, there's a lot of Crystal Lakes out there. 3056 02:08:30,579 --> 02:08:32,414 You know, it could happen anywhere. 3057 02:08:32,706 --> 02:08:34,207 Do you know how many lakes are probably called Crystal Lake? 3058 02:08:34,499 --> 02:08:37,460 Crystal Geyser, Crystal Water. 3059 02:08:37,752 --> 02:08:40,672 For the next actor chosen to wield the famous machete, 3060 02:08:40,964 --> 02:08:42,799 playing Jason wasn't just another job, 3061 02:08:43,091 --> 02:08:45,427 it was the role of a lifetime. 3062 02:08:45,719 --> 02:08:48,763 I'm a huge fan of the FRIDAY THE 13TH series. 3063 02:08:49,055 --> 02:08:51,391 It's my favorite horror series of all time. 3064 02:08:51,683 --> 02:08:55,061 Derek Meats waked through the door and, you know, 3065 02:08:55,353 --> 02:08:57,105 you don't know what to expect after seeing his pictures 3066 02:08:57,397 --> 02:08:59,399 from past movies and clips 3067 02:08:59,691 --> 02:09:01,610 and he turns out to be the sweetest guy. 3068 02:09:01,902 --> 02:09:02,819 And then you find out he actually does cage fighting 3069 02:09:03,111 --> 02:09:05,322 as a hobby. 3070 02:09:05,614 --> 02:09:08,158 When I was in school, I have a disorder called alopecia 3071 02:09:08,450 --> 02:09:12,162 which means my body sees hair as a foreign obstacle 3072 02:09:12,454 --> 02:09:13,955 so it rejects it, and when it started originally falling out, 3073 02:09:14,247 --> 02:09:14,915 it would fall out in little patches, 3074 02:09:15,207 --> 02:09:16,708 little pieces here and there, 3075 02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:17,876 and I was kind of the different kid in school. 3076 02:09:18,168 --> 02:09:20,378 And I looked and I go, 'Oh my God, 3077 02:09:20,670 --> 02:09:24,299 I'm like a, I'm like a little Jason, like we're similar.' 3078 02:09:24,591 --> 02:09:26,426 And so I kind of had a relation there, 3079 02:09:26,718 --> 02:09:28,178 a tie to that character. 3080 02:09:28,470 --> 02:09:29,710 Derek Mears was the only person 3081 02:09:29,930 --> 02:09:32,265 we considered to play Jason Voorhees. 3082 02:09:32,557 --> 02:09:34,267 When that phone call came in, 3083 02:09:34,559 --> 02:09:37,562 trying to be professional and be stone-faced, 3084 02:09:37,854 --> 02:09:39,773 'Well, that sounds great. Well, cool. 3085 02:09:40,065 --> 02:09:40,690 We'll work the days. Where are we shooting? Fantastic. 3086 02:09:40,982 --> 02:09:42,275 We'll talk to the managers.' 3087 02:09:42,567 --> 02:09:43,652 But inside you're like 3088 02:09:43,944 --> 02:09:45,862 a 13-year-old cheerleader, schoolgirl, 3089 02:09:46,154 --> 02:09:47,447 'Oh my god, that's amazing.' 3090 02:09:47,739 --> 02:09:49,074 The fact that Derek got to come in 3091 02:09:49,366 --> 02:09:52,494 and recreate this character, 3092 02:09:52,786 --> 02:09:55,121 someone who is so passionate about FRIDAY THE 13TH 3093 02:09:55,413 --> 02:09:59,668 as a whole and every film that's come in the genre before, 3094 02:09:59,960 --> 02:10:02,212 I feel like it couldn't have been a better fit. 3095 02:10:02,504 --> 02:10:05,590 He was constantly in his head, 3096 02:10:05,882 --> 02:10:07,882 talking to the producers, talking to the directors, 3097 02:10:08,134 --> 02:10:09,814 what about this, what about that, you know, 3098 02:10:10,095 --> 02:10:10,887 and he'd go through different films. 3099 02:10:11,179 --> 02:10:12,681 Well, you know, Jason did this before, 3100 02:10:12,973 --> 02:10:14,613 or are we going to do something different? 3101 02:10:14,808 --> 02:10:16,408 When I approached the character of Jason, 3102 02:10:16,601 --> 02:10:18,937 I did a lot of research on child psychology 3103 02:10:19,229 --> 02:10:21,231 being that Jason saw his mother get murdered in front of him 3104 02:10:21,523 --> 02:10:22,774 at such a young age, 3105 02:10:23,066 --> 02:10:24,693 being that he was an outcast 3106 02:10:24,985 --> 02:10:27,070 and teased and picked on from all the other kids. 3107 02:10:27,362 --> 02:10:28,642 His mother, his only tie to life, 3108 02:10:28,780 --> 02:10:29,980 that's his only source of love 3109 02:10:30,115 --> 02:10:30,949 and seeing that taken away from him, 3110 02:10:31,241 --> 02:10:33,159 how does that affect a person? 3111 02:10:33,451 --> 02:10:36,288 It'll be easier for you than it was for Jason. 3112 02:10:36,579 --> 02:10:40,375 This is about a victim who is lashing out in vengeance 3113 02:10:40,667 --> 02:10:42,127 for the death of his mother. 3114 02:10:42,419 --> 02:10:45,672 You should have been watching him... every minute! 3115 02:10:45,964 --> 02:10:48,008 Ultimately Jason's still a person. 3116 02:10:48,300 --> 02:10:51,219 He's just a very damaged person obviously. 3117 02:10:51,511 --> 02:10:54,764 So I think Derek really wanted to explore that. 3118 02:10:55,056 --> 02:10:58,018 You know, he's been rejected by society. That's his area. 3119 02:10:58,310 --> 02:11:00,228 And so when the kids come into his area, 3120 02:11:00,520 --> 02:11:02,355 he's forced into a corner, again, 3121 02:11:02,647 --> 02:11:05,650 kind of like a wild animal, and he retaliates. 3122 02:11:05,942 --> 02:11:09,237 It's very similar to John Rambo from the FIRST BLOOD series. 3123 02:11:09,529 --> 02:11:10,030 John Rambo: Don't push it or I'll give you a war 3124 02:11:10,322 --> 02:11:12,198 you won't believe. 3125 02:11:12,490 --> 02:11:14,034 And the discussion was, 'ls he running or is he walking?' 3126 02:11:14,326 --> 02:11:15,526 He ran in the first few films. 3127 02:11:15,660 --> 02:11:17,871 You know, in 2, 3,4 he was running. 3128 02:11:18,163 --> 02:11:19,331 Why not go back to that? 3129 02:11:19,622 --> 02:11:21,833 It feels like if you see him running, 3130 02:11:22,125 --> 02:11:25,420 all 240 pounds of him with that 4 foot machete, 3131 02:11:25,712 --> 02:11:28,548 that it feels scarier than if he just pops up. 3132 02:11:28,840 --> 02:11:30,675 We actually shot a lot of scenes kind of two different ways. 3133 02:11:30,967 --> 02:11:33,386 One was like more empathetic 3134 02:11:33,678 --> 02:11:36,681 so the audience could understand and feel for Jason, 3135 02:11:36,973 --> 02:11:38,892 and one was more aggressive. 3136 02:11:39,184 --> 02:11:41,311 You know, it's not an easy job wearing all that makeup 3137 02:11:41,603 --> 02:11:43,897 and running around and carrying the machete, 3138 02:11:44,189 --> 02:11:48,109 and it's easy to get aggravated and mean. 3139 02:11:48,401 --> 02:11:51,112 And every day he was a pleasure to be around and just a happy, 3140 02:11:51,404 --> 02:11:53,114 grateful guy to work with. 3141 02:11:53,406 --> 02:11:54,616 There couldn't be a greater contrast in personality 3142 02:11:54,908 --> 02:11:56,743 for a serial killer. 3143 02:11:57,035 --> 02:12:00,580 Derek is the nicest guy that any of us have ever met, 3144 02:12:00,872 --> 02:12:03,166 perhaps the nicest guy that exists on this planet. 3145 02:12:03,458 --> 02:12:04,918 I mean, it's so funny that for someone who plays 3146 02:12:05,210 --> 02:12:06,628 such a dark and scary character, 3147 02:12:06,920 --> 02:12:09,297 he couldn't be a warmer, more loving person 3148 02:12:09,589 --> 02:12:12,717 filled with more light. I just think the world of him. 3149 02:12:13,009 --> 02:12:14,636 I'm ruining my bad-guy career right now. 3150 02:12:14,928 --> 02:12:16,288 I'm going to have to punch somebody 3151 02:12:16,471 --> 02:12:17,847 just to establish dominance. 3152 02:12:18,139 --> 02:12:20,642 When you discuss the makeup, 3153 02:12:20,934 --> 02:12:23,603 or the costume really that Jason Voorhees is wearing 3154 02:12:23,895 --> 02:12:25,480 in our film, that's Scott Stoddard. 3155 02:12:25,772 --> 02:12:29,484 I was inspired by the asymmetry of what Tom did 3156 02:12:29,776 --> 02:12:30,777 for the original makeup for the little kid, 3157 02:12:31,069 --> 02:12:33,363 and what was done then in Part 4. 3158 02:12:33,655 --> 02:12:35,865 But I also really wanted to combine what Carl Fuller did 3159 02:12:36,157 --> 02:12:37,742 and had done in Part 2. 3160 02:12:38,034 --> 02:12:41,079 I thought that kind of mountain man, you know, 3161 02:12:41,371 --> 02:12:44,416 just longer hair falling out, kind of grizzly looking guy, 3162 02:12:44,707 --> 02:12:46,387 was something that I wanted to put into it. 3163 02:12:46,459 --> 02:12:48,962 Scott did an amazing job. 3164 02:12:49,254 --> 02:12:52,841 I remember the first day that Derek came on set. 3165 02:12:53,133 --> 02:12:55,218 I had - I mean, like chills ran down my spine. 3166 02:12:55,510 --> 02:12:57,595 I was like, 'Oh my God, Dude.' 3167 02:12:57,887 --> 02:13:01,641 They wrote in the sackhead in the script and when I read it, 3168 02:13:01,933 --> 02:13:03,393 I was like, 'Okay, great. Brings me right back to Part 2.' 3169 02:13:03,685 --> 02:13:06,271 The sack cloth was really scary for me too. 3170 02:13:06,563 --> 02:13:09,691 I think in some ways more scary than the hockey mask. 3171 02:13:09,983 --> 02:13:11,985 I think both versions, the hockey mask 3172 02:13:12,277 --> 02:13:14,863 and the sack head version of Jason are terrifying. 3173 02:13:15,155 --> 02:13:17,574 To me the hockey mask does seem more iconic though. 3174 02:13:17,866 --> 02:13:19,826 You know, that's what I associate with Jason. 3175 02:13:20,118 --> 02:13:22,245 The film opens at Crystal Lake 3176 02:13:22,537 --> 02:13:24,177 in one of the longest pre-credit prologues 3177 02:13:24,456 --> 02:13:26,040 in FRIDAY THE 13TH, 3178 02:13:26,332 --> 02:13:29,085 and perhaps motion picture history. 3179 02:13:29,377 --> 02:13:32,714 This remake centers around 3180 02:13:33,006 --> 02:13:35,675 this brother-sister story between the Whitney character 3181 02:13:35,967 --> 02:13:38,344 and the Clay character played by Jared Padalecki, 3182 02:13:38,636 --> 02:13:44,184 and it starts off because their mother is dying. 3183 02:13:44,476 --> 02:13:48,062 I don't feel right being here, so far away from my mom. 3184 02:13:48,354 --> 02:13:51,399 My boyfriend drags me away from taking care of her 3185 02:13:51,691 --> 02:13:53,443 to go on a camping trip, 3186 02:13:53,735 --> 02:13:55,655 and we don't realize that it's Camp Crystal Lake. 3187 02:13:55,862 --> 02:13:57,864 And it doesn't go so well. 3188 02:13:58,156 --> 02:14:00,241 [random screams] 3189 02:14:00,533 --> 02:14:02,577 With the crew being around you, once you sort of got outside 3190 02:14:02,869 --> 02:14:04,454 of all the lights and stuff, 3191 02:14:04,746 --> 02:14:08,333 you could really see how creepy it would be 3192 02:14:08,625 --> 02:14:10,835 to be out there in the pitch black 3193 02:14:11,127 --> 02:14:12,712 and not really know your surroundings. 3194 02:14:13,004 --> 02:14:15,965 The dark woods outside of Austin, Texas 3195 02:14:16,257 --> 02:14:19,260 provided the perfect cover for a practical joke 3196 02:14:19,552 --> 02:14:23,806 on actor Jonathan Sadowski by his fellow cast members. 3197 02:14:24,098 --> 02:14:27,685 We were shooting in the dark woods late one night, 3198 02:14:27,977 --> 02:14:30,396 and, it was like 3 or 4 in the morning, super tired. 3199 02:14:30,688 --> 02:14:34,859 Of course, the portapotties are like a walk. 3200 02:14:35,151 --> 02:14:36,991 It's a hike to get there, and it's pitch black, 3201 02:14:37,111 --> 02:14:38,530 like there's nothin' out there. 3202 02:14:38,821 --> 02:14:41,824 This would make the perfect serial killer story, 3203 02:14:42,116 --> 02:14:44,410 that somebody actually got killed by a serial killer 3204 02:14:44,702 --> 02:14:47,163 in the woods while shooting FRIDAY THE 13TH. 3205 02:14:47,455 --> 02:14:49,374 And we're all watching the monitors, 3206 02:14:49,666 --> 02:14:50,416 watching the scene that's taking place, 3207 02:14:50,708 --> 02:14:53,711 and Jonathan pops up from his chair and goes, 3208 02:14:54,003 --> 02:14:55,547 Well, gotta go to the bathroom, 3209 02:14:55,838 --> 02:14:57,298 and he walks off in the darkness. 3210 02:14:57,590 --> 02:15:00,009 And so Feldman and Mennell 3211 02:15:00,301 --> 02:15:01,553 like thought it would be a really great idea 3212 02:15:01,844 --> 02:15:04,013 to convince Derek to hide in the bushes. 3213 02:15:04,305 --> 02:15:06,065 So he goes out and, of course, Derek sees him 3214 02:15:06,182 --> 02:15:07,767 disappear into the woods 3215 02:15:08,059 --> 02:15:09,602 and Derek goes to the opposite side of the woods 3216 02:15:09,894 --> 02:15:11,104 and hides and waits for him to walk back. 3217 02:15:11,396 --> 02:15:15,775 He hid in the bushes like halfway through the walk 3218 02:15:16,067 --> 02:15:18,861 and jumped out at him with his mask and machete. 3219 02:15:19,153 --> 02:15:22,615 I have never seen an adult man get so scared 3220 02:15:22,907 --> 02:15:25,326 as Jonathan Sadowski who literally, 3221 02:15:25,618 --> 02:15:27,912 when Derek came charging at him out of the woods 3222 02:15:28,204 --> 02:15:30,248 in full costume, didn't know what to do, 3223 02:15:30,540 --> 02:15:31,541 so just ran in place like a cartoon character. 3224 02:15:31,833 --> 02:15:34,127 Ahhh-ahhh-ah-haha! 3225 02:15:34,419 --> 02:15:35,962 His feet are jumping back and forth. 3226 02:15:36,254 --> 02:15:38,172 His hands are going up and down. 3227 02:15:38,464 --> 02:15:40,544 What happened was that part between fight and flight. 3228 02:15:40,592 --> 02:15:42,969 He goes, I didn't know, I was so scared I didn't know 3229 02:15:43,261 --> 02:15:44,861 if I should run or punch you in the face. 3230 02:15:45,138 --> 02:15:47,348 And the whole set just died. Just killed everybody. 3231 02:15:47,640 --> 02:15:48,808 So I'm like, Oh, mission accomplished. 3232 02:15:49,100 --> 02:15:50,685 I felt pretty good about that. 3233 02:15:50,977 --> 02:15:52,377 Our movie has a ton of nudity in it. 3234 02:15:52,645 --> 02:15:56,024 And as a kid when I was going to movies, 3235 02:15:56,316 --> 02:15:58,401 that was part of the genre and for some reason 3236 02:15:58,693 --> 02:16:00,403 it kind of went away. 3237 02:16:00,695 --> 02:16:03,656 And it was important to us to bring back the nudity. 3238 02:16:03,948 --> 02:16:08,119 America and I are in the tent and we are loving each other 3239 02:16:08,411 --> 02:16:10,246 biblically from behind. 3240 02:16:10,538 --> 02:16:13,166 Oh, you like that? 3241 02:16:13,458 --> 02:16:14,542 Yeah baby, wait for me, 3242 02:16:14,834 --> 02:16:17,629 - No I think I'm gonna... - No, don't do that again- 3243 02:16:17,920 --> 02:16:21,341 As it turned out, playing the role of sex-starved Amanda 3244 02:16:21,633 --> 02:16:25,970 was more than original actress Moran Atias bargained for. 3245 02:16:26,262 --> 02:16:31,142 America Olivia bares her breasts in the beginning of the film. 3246 02:16:31,434 --> 02:16:33,269 That was written into the original screenplay. 3247 02:16:33,561 --> 02:16:35,647 And we shot that scene with another girl 3248 02:16:35,938 --> 02:16:36,814 who when it came time to bare her breasts, 3249 02:16:37,106 --> 02:16:38,858 she refused to do it. 3250 02:16:39,150 --> 02:16:41,486 You know, I think she'd recently come from Israel 3251 02:16:41,778 --> 02:16:43,696 and was ready to do some serious acting 3252 02:16:43,988 --> 02:16:46,366 and FRIDAY THE 13TH, I think, 3253 02:16:46,658 --> 02:16:49,410 was not exactly what she had in mind 3254 02:16:49,702 --> 02:16:52,121 when she came to do 'high art' in America 3255 02:16:52,413 --> 02:16:55,083 and, I guess to put it plainly, 3256 02:16:55,375 --> 02:16:56,793 I think there were just too many boob shots. 3257 02:16:57,085 --> 02:16:58,586 Hey It looks like you. 3258 02:16:58,878 --> 02:17:01,130 No, it doesn't. 3259 02:17:01,422 --> 02:17:03,966 It does. lt's cool, you should keep it. 3260 02:17:04,258 --> 02:17:07,345 When Mike and Whitney go into the cabin, 3261 02:17:07,637 --> 02:17:11,182 and she finds the locket, because she's wearing it, 3262 02:17:11,474 --> 02:17:14,852 yes, it does save her life to a certain degree. 3263 02:17:15,144 --> 02:17:17,105 That symbol of love is that locket, 3264 02:17:17,397 --> 02:17:21,317 it's that confusion, oh, that's my mom. 3265 02:17:21,609 --> 02:17:24,278 He's not all there but it's that tie in to him needing love. 3266 02:17:24,570 --> 02:17:25,570 Little Oedipus. 3267 02:17:25,655 --> 02:17:27,699 [scream] 3268 02:17:27,990 --> 02:17:29,575 I think for me if there's wooden boards involved 3269 02:17:29,867 --> 02:17:32,328 and someone's falling through or bashing up into them, 3270 02:17:32,620 --> 02:17:34,622 that's the kind of death scene I like. 3271 02:17:34,914 --> 02:17:36,082 I don't know why. I'm just creeped out by it. 3272 02:17:36,374 --> 02:17:37,875 And I jump into the bathtub, 3273 02:17:38,167 --> 02:17:40,920 and I'm trying to pull Nick into the tub with me. 3274 02:17:41,212 --> 02:17:44,257 There was a lot of thrashing around and Derek Mears, 3275 02:17:44,549 --> 02:17:46,759 Jason, was out of town. 3276 02:17:47,051 --> 02:17:47,844 He was actually getting married, funny enough 3277 02:17:48,136 --> 02:17:49,721 while we were shooting. 3278 02:17:50,012 --> 02:17:51,889 And they had a stunt double for him 3279 02:17:52,181 --> 02:17:54,475 that was supposed to grab me. 3280 02:17:54,767 --> 02:17:57,311 I bashed this guy, kicked him straight in the eye 3281 02:17:57,603 --> 02:17:59,772 and gave him a good shiner. 3282 02:18:00,064 --> 02:18:03,943 I run back to save Amanda, and she is hanging from a tree 3283 02:18:04,235 --> 02:18:07,238 in a sleeping bag on fire and burning to death. 3284 02:18:07,530 --> 02:18:09,699 That is when I stumble upon a bear trap. 3285 02:18:09,991 --> 02:18:12,160 [scream] 3286 02:18:12,452 --> 02:18:15,163 We shot like 10 takes and after a while I'm like, 3287 02:18:15,455 --> 02:18:18,708 my leg's kind of like dented and like a little bit bleeding 3288 02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:21,544 and like black-and-blue and so I was like, 3289 02:18:21,836 --> 02:18:24,297 Guys, can we loosen up with the bear trap? 3290 02:18:24,589 --> 02:18:26,215 And they were like, Oh my God, that's the real one. 3291 02:18:26,507 --> 02:18:28,107 Can somebody just get him the rubber one? 3292 02:18:28,342 --> 02:18:30,511 Jason comes at me at the end of the scene 3293 02:18:30,803 --> 02:18:33,181 and puts a machete through my forehead 3294 02:18:33,473 --> 02:18:36,809 and then he turns on Amanda Righetti's character, 3295 02:18:37,101 --> 02:18:40,146 and we cut to black and then the real movie starts. 3296 02:18:40,438 --> 02:18:43,524 Jared Padalecki goes back to Crystal Lake 3297 02:18:43,816 --> 02:18:46,152 because he thinks that that's where his sister is. 3298 02:18:46,444 --> 02:18:48,154 So he kind of goes, he's there on a mission to find her, 3299 02:18:48,446 --> 02:18:50,865 and he finds some other kids who are hanging out 3300 02:18:51,157 --> 02:18:52,742 and partying at Crystal Lake. 3301 02:18:53,034 --> 02:18:57,121 I have a cabin. I'm very rich and I want people to like me, 3302 02:18:57,413 --> 02:18:58,664 I guess, even though I don't like anybody 3303 02:18:58,956 --> 02:18:59,916 that I really bring to the cabin. 3304 02:19:00,208 --> 02:19:02,084 Hey, take your feet off the table please. 3305 02:19:02,376 --> 02:19:03,753 Jenna, you know, registers what Clay is going through 3306 02:19:04,045 --> 02:19:05,254 and how hard this must be 3307 02:19:05,546 --> 02:19:07,256 despite the fact that all her friends 3308 02:19:07,548 --> 02:19:09,217 are just focused on partying and having a good time. 3309 02:19:09,509 --> 02:19:11,029 I'm trying to set up myself to get laid 3310 02:19:11,093 --> 02:19:12,220 with this beautiful girl. 3311 02:19:12,512 --> 02:19:14,138 She ends up going to this other guy. 3312 02:19:14,430 --> 02:19:17,016 I'm definitely jealous, a little pissed off. 3313 02:19:17,308 --> 02:19:18,184 So you don't want to be friends after this? 3314 02:19:18,476 --> 02:19:20,228 Don't want to hang out? 3315 02:19:20,520 --> 02:19:22,240 Two boys wanting to duke it out over a girl. 3316 02:19:22,480 --> 02:19:24,357 Like that's a story we can all relate to. 3317 02:19:24,649 --> 02:19:26,359 I would probably leave soon before I get pissed off, 3318 02:19:26,651 --> 02:19:27,651 and, you know... Yeah? 3319 02:19:27,777 --> 02:19:29,487 Yeah. 3320 02:19:29,779 --> 02:19:32,657 The new film attempted not one, 3321 02:19:32,949 --> 02:19:34,242 but two, versions of the scene 3322 02:19:34,534 --> 02:19:37,328 where Jason discovers his iconic hockey mask. 3323 02:19:37,620 --> 02:19:41,040 The original scene was, in my mind, 3324 02:19:41,332 --> 02:19:43,209 not nearly as interesting as the one that we shot later on. 3325 02:19:43,501 --> 02:19:45,711 Donnie comes into his pot den in the barn, 3326 02:19:46,003 --> 02:19:48,339 and he's getting high. 3327 02:19:48,631 --> 02:19:50,591 And he puts the hockey mask on, 3328 02:19:50,883 --> 02:19:53,052 and Jason comes in and grabs him by the head. 3329 02:19:53,344 --> 02:19:54,512 You don't see him get his head chopped off 3330 02:19:54,804 --> 02:19:56,764 but then you see the head drop out of frame 3331 02:19:57,056 --> 02:19:58,641 and land on the ground. 3332 02:19:58,933 --> 02:19:59,934 He's looking at the mask and puts the mask on 3333 02:20:00,226 --> 02:20:01,853 and there it was. 3334 02:20:02,144 --> 02:20:03,187 That's how he was going to get it. 3335 02:20:03,479 --> 02:20:05,648 And then a few months later, 3336 02:20:05,940 --> 02:20:08,568 they decided to go and re-shoot that a little different, 3337 02:20:08,860 --> 02:20:11,571 and it was when he goes upstairs, confronts Donnie, 3338 02:20:11,863 --> 02:20:13,223 That shit ain't fuckin' right, dude 3339 02:20:13,447 --> 02:20:15,283 Cuts his throat, pulls something aside, 3340 02:20:15,575 --> 02:20:17,201 and there's the hockey mask. 3341 02:20:17,493 --> 02:20:18,578 I also think the scene's quite effective. 3342 02:20:18,870 --> 02:20:19,871 I think it's an interesting moment there. 3343 02:20:20,162 --> 02:20:22,164 Not only when he gets the mask, 3344 02:20:22,456 --> 02:20:23,541 he puts it on, and he goes to the mirror. 3345 02:20:23,833 --> 02:20:24,876 I think it's quite an effective scene. 3346 02:20:25,167 --> 02:20:26,327 I'm really glad we shot that. 3347 02:20:26,502 --> 02:20:28,504 I thought they both worked well. 3348 02:20:28,796 --> 02:20:30,956 It would have been fun if they had Shelly from PART Ill 3349 02:20:31,215 --> 02:20:33,092 who introduced the hockey mask, 3350 02:20:33,384 --> 02:20:35,678 where he's like working with Donnie doing something, 3351 02:20:35,970 --> 02:20:37,850 You know, there he is. There's Shelly, you know. 3352 02:20:38,014 --> 02:20:40,433 In keeping with FRIDAY THE 13TH tradition, 3353 02:20:40,725 --> 02:20:42,810 several of the film's death sequences 3354 02:20:43,102 --> 02:20:46,647 had to be reconceived and re-shot. 3355 02:20:46,939 --> 02:20:50,067 So there's a kill in the script with Willa Ford's character, 3356 02:20:50,359 --> 02:20:53,321 originally it was written where the boat sequence happens, 3357 02:20:53,613 --> 02:20:55,253 Ryan's character gets shot with the arrow, 3358 02:20:55,323 --> 02:20:57,241 she gets hit by the boat, and she's stunned. 3359 02:20:57,533 --> 02:20:59,253 As she's kind of coming to, and she realizes 3360 02:20:59,535 --> 02:21:00,935 there's a guy wearing a hockey mask, 3361 02:21:00,995 --> 02:21:02,038 and she's kind of confused and all of a sudden, 3362 02:21:02,330 --> 02:21:02,663 the guy pulls out a machete, and she's like, 3363 02:21:02,955 --> 02:21:05,458 Oh my God, oh my God. 3364 02:21:05,750 --> 02:21:07,710 And so she starts to swim parallel to the water, 3365 02:21:08,002 --> 02:21:10,630 and he just slowly walks with her keeping the same distance. 3366 02:21:10,922 --> 02:21:13,466 It cuts to the kids back at the house 3367 02:21:13,758 --> 02:21:14,800 having a big party, having a good time. 3368 02:21:15,092 --> 02:21:17,094 It's a very long scene there. 3369 02:21:17,386 --> 02:21:19,931 Then it cuts back to her and now the time is passed 3370 02:21:20,222 --> 02:21:22,516 where it's dark, and she's been treading water 3371 02:21:22,808 --> 02:21:24,060 for a long time, and Jason hasn't moved. 3372 02:21:24,352 --> 02:21:25,592 He's still just staring at her. 3373 02:21:25,811 --> 02:21:27,688 And so it was more of a psychological kill, 3374 02:21:27,980 --> 02:21:29,190 like she's so afraid to get out of the water, 3375 02:21:29,482 --> 02:21:31,192 she'd rather drown in the water. 3376 02:21:31,484 --> 02:21:32,764 And I thought that was brilliant. 3377 02:21:32,902 --> 02:21:33,653 But they changed it where she faked it 3378 02:21:33,945 --> 02:21:35,237 and comes up under the docks, 3379 02:21:35,529 --> 02:21:36,447 has the machete get the top of her head 3380 02:21:36,739 --> 02:21:38,366 which is still a great kill. 3381 02:21:38,658 --> 02:21:40,660 The kills are obviously such an important part 3382 02:21:40,952 --> 02:21:42,912 of this franchise and of horror movies in general, 3383 02:21:43,204 --> 02:21:47,041 and I loved them in this movie. 3384 02:21:47,333 --> 02:21:51,671 I thought everyone had a really unique and disgusting way to go. 3385 02:21:51,963 --> 02:21:54,173 We were talking to the producers and they were like, 3386 02:21:54,465 --> 02:21:55,633 Did you realize there are 13 kills in this movie? 3387 02:21:55,925 --> 02:21:59,637 And I was like, Yeah, it was intentional. 3388 02:21:59,929 --> 02:22:01,847 And they were like, Really? Wow. That's great. 3389 02:22:02,139 --> 02:22:04,600 The other part of the formula, I guess for us, 3390 02:22:04,892 --> 02:22:06,769 was we wanted to have kids having fun. 3391 02:22:07,061 --> 02:22:08,781 We wanted to bring back some of that feeling 3392 02:22:08,896 --> 02:22:12,066 from the 80s where it's kind of sex, drugs and violence. 3393 02:22:12,358 --> 02:22:14,568 Well originally we did want to put it in the 80s, 3394 02:22:14,860 --> 02:22:16,070 I mean, that was sort of important to us, 3395 02:22:16,362 --> 02:22:18,072 and then once you start talking to like the studio guys, 3396 02:22:18,364 --> 02:22:19,924 they go, yeah, it's not going to happen. 3397 02:22:20,074 --> 02:22:22,618 It's very modern, and we didn't step back in time at all. 3398 02:22:22,910 --> 02:22:24,662 We really brought that modern energy to it. 3399 02:22:24,954 --> 02:22:27,164 As Form and Fuller once explained to me, 3400 02:22:27,456 --> 02:22:29,291 'These kids have got to be fuckable. 3401 02:22:29,583 --> 02:22:31,263 The guys have gotta want to fuck the girls, 3402 02:22:31,377 --> 02:22:32,420 and the girls have gotta want to fuck the guys 3403 02:22:32,712 --> 02:22:34,588 in the movie.' So that's what makes them care. 3404 02:22:34,880 --> 02:22:36,840 My character did have some good lines in the film. 3405 02:22:36,924 --> 02:22:38,684 I know the one that I did not want to say was 3406 02:22:38,926 --> 02:22:41,012 Your tits are stupendous. 3407 02:22:41,303 --> 02:22:42,471 And they said, Trust me. It'll get a laugh. lt's funny. 3408 02:22:42,763 --> 02:22:44,306 I said, Okay. 3409 02:22:44,598 --> 02:22:46,225 And then we were doing the sex scene, 3410 02:22:46,517 --> 02:22:48,602 and, it was like a twelve-hour day for that thing, 3411 02:22:48,894 --> 02:22:51,454 and it sounds like, Oh, man, you had to do that for twelve hours, 3412 02:22:51,731 --> 02:22:52,815 you poor guy, but seriously, twelve hours a day 3413 02:22:53,107 --> 02:22:54,942 wearing a little cock sock, 3414 02:22:55,234 --> 02:22:56,914 it's not really the most comfortable thing. 3415 02:22:57,069 --> 02:22:59,780 This is a man's sport. 3416 02:23:00,072 --> 02:23:01,672 Aaron Yoo, who plays Chewie in the movie, 3417 02:23:01,907 --> 02:23:04,660 he had to have full stomach surgery 3418 02:23:04,952 --> 02:23:06,328 while we were shooting. 3419 02:23:06,620 --> 02:23:07,747 He had an obstruction in his stomach, 3420 02:23:08,039 --> 02:23:11,500 and he was rushed to the hospital from the set. 3421 02:23:11,792 --> 02:23:15,296 He came back with, I don't know, 30 staples in his stomach. 3422 02:23:15,588 --> 02:23:17,757 I don't know how he held up but he kept going like, 3423 02:23:18,049 --> 02:23:21,385 'Hey, look, can you actually throw me? 3424 02:23:21,677 --> 02:23:24,388 Can you like do it for real?' 3425 02:23:24,680 --> 02:23:26,057 I go, 'Yeah, I can do it for real. I'm not doing it for real 3426 02:23:26,348 --> 02:23:27,808 because I don't want to hurt you.' 3427 02:23:28,100 --> 02:23:30,269 Are you looking for this? 'Cause it, uh... 3428 02:23:30,561 --> 02:23:32,730 completes your outfit. 3429 02:23:33,022 --> 02:23:37,234 And he was like, 'l'm good for one. 3430 02:23:37,526 --> 02:23:38,694 Is that cool with everybody?' 'Okay, dude, if you're sure.' 3431 02:23:38,986 --> 02:23:41,405 [screams] 3432 02:23:41,697 --> 02:23:44,533 And all I'm thinking is if his guts pour out 3433 02:23:44,825 --> 02:23:45,701 while we're doing the scene... l'm going to shoot that, right? 3434 02:23:45,993 --> 02:23:48,329 'Cuz I can use that in the movie if his guts pour out. 3435 02:23:48,621 --> 02:23:50,915 There's a point where I'm stabbing him, 3436 02:23:51,207 --> 02:23:53,959 and he starts to choke, and he's gagging, 3437 02:23:54,251 --> 02:23:56,337 and he goes to the ground, and we end the scene. 3438 02:23:56,629 --> 02:23:58,269 I go, Dude, are you okay? What's going on? 3439 02:23:58,380 --> 02:24:00,591 And he goes, No, no, no. I had the blood in my mouth, 3440 02:24:00,883 --> 02:24:01,842 and rather than just coming out of my mouth, 3441 02:24:02,134 --> 02:24:03,636 I tried to inhale it into my sinuses so it would come out. 3442 02:24:03,928 --> 02:24:06,722 I go, you are far too committed for this. 3443 02:24:07,014 --> 02:24:08,641 That is insane. 3444 02:24:08,933 --> 02:24:09,642 No, but it looked really, really cool. 3445 02:24:09,934 --> 02:24:11,644 Take that, motherfucker! 3446 02:24:11,936 --> 02:24:15,356 My death scene, it hurt the most. 3447 02:24:15,648 --> 02:24:16,482 And you know, oh, he's getting away and then all of a sudden 3448 02:24:16,774 --> 02:24:19,777 you just see [noise] axe. 3449 02:24:20,069 --> 02:24:21,789 I'm screaming for help, and you can hear me. 3450 02:24:22,071 --> 02:24:24,365 Oh my god, please! 3451 02:24:24,657 --> 02:24:26,200 It's always interesting to me to see, you know, 3452 02:24:26,492 --> 02:24:28,911 a bomb drops, you know, 3453 02:24:29,203 --> 02:24:31,038 a bunch of kids scatter around like roaches on the kitchen sink 3454 02:24:31,330 --> 02:24:33,958 and how do they interact. 3455 02:24:34,250 --> 02:24:36,130 - You can't go out there. - We have to help him. 3456 02:24:36,168 --> 02:24:38,048 No we can't, ok? He's using your friend as bait. 3457 02:24:38,295 --> 02:24:40,335 You know, at least someone said we have to help him. 3458 02:24:40,422 --> 02:24:42,258 Somebody's gotta do something! 3459 02:24:42,550 --> 02:24:43,634 I was like, Do it, be a friend, go out there 3460 02:24:43,926 --> 02:24:45,845 and save your buddy. 3461 02:24:46,137 --> 02:24:47,304 And we're all like, Whose life is more important here? 3462 02:24:47,596 --> 02:24:49,473 Ours. 3463 02:24:49,765 --> 02:24:51,142 As I was watching the movie, 3464 02:24:51,433 --> 02:24:52,993 I thought of so many different scenarios 3465 02:24:53,144 --> 02:24:54,937 of how I could have been saved. 3466 02:24:55,229 --> 02:24:56,272 Spineless bastards. 3467 02:24:56,564 --> 02:24:59,608 [screams] 3468 02:24:59,900 --> 02:25:03,237 I mean, I think I die three or four times in the movie. 3469 02:25:03,529 --> 02:25:05,865 I get suffocated by Jason. 3470 02:25:06,157 --> 02:25:07,449 Then I get hung on these hooks. 3471 02:25:07,741 --> 02:25:08,993 And I get shot through a door. 3472 02:25:09,285 --> 02:25:11,537 Then I get thrown out a window. 3473 02:25:11,829 --> 02:25:16,000 Marcus, I guess, wanted to try to get a little more creative, 3474 02:25:16,292 --> 02:25:18,627 you know, like the things that make you squirm. 3475 02:25:18,919 --> 02:25:21,755 The poker through the eyehole, that was... errrrr. 3476 02:25:22,047 --> 02:25:25,217 Anything with eyes, like when you watch that movie ZOMBIE. 3477 02:25:25,509 --> 02:25:28,554 As the remaining characters make a last bid for survival, 3478 02:25:28,846 --> 02:25:31,640 an on-set accident nearly resulted 3479 02:25:31,932 --> 02:25:34,643 in a real FRIDAY THE 13TH casualty. 3480 02:25:34,935 --> 02:25:36,645 Whenever you're making a horror movie 3481 02:25:36,937 --> 02:25:39,257 and kids or people are running and they have sharp objects, 3482 02:25:39,523 --> 02:25:40,107 someone's bound to get hurt. 3483 02:25:40,399 --> 02:25:42,735 We were shooting one of the scenes 3484 02:25:43,027 --> 02:25:44,627 where we run from upstairs to downstairs. 3485 02:25:44,653 --> 02:25:45,933 And we're coming down the stairs. 3486 02:25:45,988 --> 02:25:47,990 I'm backing down as fast as I can 3487 02:25:48,282 --> 02:25:50,492 like pretending I'm a frickin' FBI agent or something, 3488 02:25:50,784 --> 02:25:52,494 and I run into Danielle and I slam her into the wall. 3489 02:25:52,786 --> 02:25:55,998 He somehow pushed me into the windowsill, 3490 02:25:56,290 --> 02:25:58,709 and I hit my chin, and I split my chin open 3491 02:25:59,001 --> 02:26:01,128 and fell back and gave myself a concussion. 3492 02:26:01,420 --> 02:26:03,714 She hits her head, 3493 02:26:04,006 --> 02:26:06,050 and she almost gets knocked out unconscious. 3494 02:26:06,342 --> 02:26:07,092 And she had to go to the hospital. 3495 02:26:07,384 --> 02:26:08,886 I think - it was just bad. 3496 02:26:09,178 --> 02:26:10,898 So I still have a teeny tiny scar on my chin 3497 02:26:11,055 --> 02:26:13,557 that will forever remind me of FRIDAY THE 13TH. 3498 02:26:13,849 --> 02:26:17,186 I feel bad but it was - I mean, 3499 02:26:17,478 --> 02:26:19,313 I guess it was payback for her going to the other guy. 3500 02:26:19,605 --> 02:26:20,981 So I got her back. 3501 02:26:21,273 --> 02:26:23,400 I think the most brutal kill 3502 02:26:23,692 --> 02:26:24,193 would probably have to be Travis's. 3503 02:26:24,485 --> 02:26:25,861 He had the iconic scream. 3504 02:26:26,153 --> 02:26:27,947 [screams like a girl] 3505 02:26:28,239 --> 02:26:30,115 I think he probably out-screamed all the women 3506 02:26:30,407 --> 02:26:36,956 that have been in any of the FRIDAY THE 13TH films. 3507 02:26:37,248 --> 02:26:38,968 My death scene in this film was a great one, 3508 02:26:39,041 --> 02:26:40,876 and I think the whole purpose of my character 3509 02:26:41,168 --> 02:26:43,879 staying in the film as long as he did 3510 02:26:44,171 --> 02:26:48,092 was you wanted the audience to really slowly hate me 3511 02:26:48,384 --> 02:26:49,843 and hate me more and more 3512 02:26:50,135 --> 02:26:52,012 so that when I died it was a big payoff. 3513 02:26:52,304 --> 02:26:55,474 We went through probably 10 gallons of blood. 3514 02:26:55,766 --> 02:26:59,103 Gets the machete basically all the way up his body 3515 02:26:59,395 --> 02:27:00,675 until he's lifted off the ground. 3516 02:27:00,771 --> 02:27:02,314 Then he lets me down, lifts me up 3517 02:27:02,606 --> 02:27:04,066 and throws me on the back of a hay bale spike 3518 02:27:04,358 --> 02:27:06,278 that goes through my chest as the car pulls away. 3519 02:27:06,443 --> 02:27:09,488 So timing had to be perfect. I had to be strapped in. 3520 02:27:09,780 --> 02:27:11,156 It was just a really... It's a gnarly death. 3521 02:27:11,448 --> 02:27:13,325 He was the asshole, he was the jerk, 3522 02:27:13,617 --> 02:27:16,370 and, as we all know in films, we want those people to die. 3523 02:27:16,662 --> 02:27:18,163 So he got what he deserved. 3524 02:27:18,455 --> 02:27:21,583 And then they drive away with my dying body. 3525 02:27:21,875 --> 02:27:24,878 So, altogether I'm... that was one of my favorite parts 3526 02:27:25,170 --> 02:27:26,755 was to watch me die. 3527 02:27:27,047 --> 02:27:28,799 The original script that I read, 3528 02:27:29,091 --> 02:27:30,342 it involved a much more intricate scene 3529 02:27:30,634 --> 02:27:33,345 involving Jared's character 3530 02:27:33,637 --> 02:27:34,388 and Amanda Righetti's character and my character, 3531 02:27:34,680 --> 02:27:38,017 in more of a battle with Jason 3532 02:27:38,309 --> 02:27:40,144 and Jenna was definitely more involved in that version. 3533 02:27:40,436 --> 02:27:42,396 They needed to find something 3534 02:27:42,688 --> 02:27:43,897 that wasn't going to be too difficult to shoot 3535 02:27:44,189 --> 02:27:45,909 and that was going to fit in their schedule. 3536 02:27:46,191 --> 02:27:47,818 So Jenna had to die in the tunnel 3537 02:27:48,110 --> 02:27:50,195 I loved that about this. 3538 02:27:50,487 --> 02:27:52,614 You know, the sort of, she follows all the rules 3539 02:27:52,906 --> 02:27:55,284 of a quintessential Jason movie, and she doesn't swear, 3540 02:27:55,576 --> 02:27:57,416 she doesn't have sex, she's not a hard partier, 3541 02:27:57,703 --> 02:27:59,204 and yet she still gets killed. 3542 02:27:59,496 --> 02:28:00,831 And I think it's fun. 3543 02:28:01,123 --> 02:28:02,166 I think it's a great talking point, 3544 02:28:02,458 --> 02:28:05,252 and I love that people are so invested in it. 3545 02:28:05,544 --> 02:28:08,047 With the Platinum Dunes partners 3546 02:28:08,339 --> 02:28:09,673 closely watching over the set, 3547 02:28:09,965 --> 02:28:12,634 and with the mounting pressure of constant script changes, 3548 02:28:12,926 --> 02:28:14,762 tensions flared between the producers 3549 02:28:15,054 --> 02:28:17,556 and director Marcus Nispel. 3550 02:28:17,848 --> 02:28:20,017 The working relationship that I had with Marcus 3551 02:28:20,309 --> 02:28:22,936 shifted quite a bit in the course of making this film. 3552 02:28:23,228 --> 02:28:26,065 Kind of a recluse. He would just keep to himself, 3553 02:28:26,357 --> 02:28:28,233 and he would say things to you when you needed to hear them. 3554 02:28:28,525 --> 02:28:30,444 There's a fine line between genius and madness. 3555 02:28:30,736 --> 02:28:33,572 He's such a visual guy. He gets so excited. 3556 02:28:33,864 --> 02:28:36,867 'Da-da very good scene. I want you to burst in. 3557 02:28:37,159 --> 02:28:39,453 You're going to attack her. The energy stop there. 3558 02:28:39,745 --> 02:28:42,331 Oh they can't help it. You're going to rip them apart! 3559 02:28:42,623 --> 02:28:45,376 I think I had a better relationship 3560 02:28:45,667 --> 02:28:48,545 and better communication with Brad and Drew. 3561 02:28:48,837 --> 02:28:50,397 They were the producers that were on set 3562 02:28:50,506 --> 02:28:52,216 the entire shoot. 3563 02:28:52,508 --> 02:28:53,300 Unfortunately there was a lot of conflict 3564 02:28:53,592 --> 02:28:56,220 between those parties. 3565 02:28:56,512 --> 02:28:58,192 Marcus was trying to push this film forward 3566 02:28:58,472 --> 02:29:00,391 but they kept changing the script 3567 02:29:00,682 --> 02:29:03,143 and rewriting the script. And they were forever at odds. 3568 02:29:03,435 --> 02:29:05,115 Almost every shooting day would start with, 3569 02:29:05,312 --> 02:29:07,106 you know, some sort of discussion 3570 02:29:07,398 --> 02:29:09,038 or conversation about what we're shooting. 3571 02:29:09,108 --> 02:29:10,734 No, no, that's not even a scene anymore. 3572 02:29:11,026 --> 02:29:13,695 There may have been something between them, 3573 02:29:13,987 --> 02:29:16,615 but by the time it gets to us actors, 3574 02:29:16,907 --> 02:29:18,747 everybody's... you know, it's like mom and dad. 3575 02:29:18,909 --> 02:29:21,036 If they fought it was when we went to bed. 3576 02:29:21,328 --> 02:29:22,538 As time went on I realized this is no way to carry on 3577 02:29:22,830 --> 02:29:24,581 making a film. 3578 02:29:24,873 --> 02:29:27,626 We have to somehow arrive at an amicable agreement 3579 02:29:27,918 --> 02:29:28,919 where we can just carry on and, you know, 3580 02:29:29,211 --> 02:29:30,671 and that never really happened. 3581 02:29:30,963 --> 02:29:32,881 As filming drew to a close, 3582 02:29:33,173 --> 02:29:35,592 one question still remained... 3583 02:29:35,884 --> 02:29:38,887 How would this FRIDAY THE 13TH end? 3584 02:29:39,179 --> 02:29:41,265 And we ended up going back out to Austin 3585 02:29:41,557 --> 02:29:43,237 a few months after we had wrapped the movie 3586 02:29:43,267 --> 02:29:44,852 to re-shoot some of it, 3587 02:29:45,144 --> 02:29:46,770 and they wanted to see me stab Jason. 3588 02:29:47,062 --> 02:29:50,065 The original ending we shot for FRIDAY 3589 02:29:50,357 --> 02:29:52,651 when Jason's getting pulled into the wood chipper, 3590 02:29:52,943 --> 02:29:54,570 we actually shot where the mask pops off. 3591 02:29:54,862 --> 02:29:56,738 He's staring, he's confused 3592 02:29:57,030 --> 02:29:59,074 because, you know, he loves her so much. 3593 02:29:59,366 --> 02:30:02,536 It's like the confusion of like he loves his mother, 3594 02:30:02,828 --> 02:30:06,123 and she's not his mother, but she kind of is, 3595 02:30:06,415 --> 02:30:08,584 and so he's like, Why are you doing this? 3596 02:30:08,876 --> 02:30:09,960 And then she stabs him with the machete. 3597 02:30:10,252 --> 02:30:13,380 Jason! Say hi to Mommy... in Hell! 3598 02:30:13,672 --> 02:30:14,965 'Jason, say hi to Mommy in hell.' 3599 02:30:15,257 --> 02:30:17,676 I fought that tooth and nail. 3600 02:30:17,968 --> 02:30:21,430 I was like, Oh, guys, really? That's cheesy. 3601 02:30:21,722 --> 02:30:22,473 What they were looking for is the entire audience going like, 3602 02:30:22,764 --> 02:30:25,184 Yay! The bad guy's dead! 3603 02:30:25,476 --> 02:30:27,227 But instead the entire audience was silent. 3604 02:30:27,519 --> 02:30:30,731 And so they changed the ending. 3605 02:30:31,023 --> 02:30:31,523 I prefer the more, the emotional one myself 3606 02:30:31,815 --> 02:30:34,151 because it adds more depth. 3607 02:30:34,443 --> 02:30:36,820 Obviously the big pressure is will there be a big, 3608 02:30:37,112 --> 02:30:40,073 big scare at the end, 3609 02:30:40,365 --> 02:30:42,868 and then, of course, your biggest trick as a director 3610 02:30:43,160 --> 02:30:45,829 is to see what you make look like an end or not, 3611 02:30:46,121 --> 02:30:48,123 the false end, you know. 3612 02:30:48,415 --> 02:30:49,500 What are you going to do? You know, it's hard. 3613 02:30:49,791 --> 02:30:51,751 It's hard to top what happened in the first movie. 3614 02:30:51,835 --> 02:30:53,337 The first movie has one of the great, you know, 3615 02:30:53,629 --> 02:30:55,214 jump scare endings of all time. 3616 02:30:55,506 --> 02:30:57,106 So it became a really tough bar, I think, 3617 02:30:57,174 --> 02:30:58,425 for every other filmmaker. 3618 02:30:58,717 --> 02:30:59,593 It's like well we need something. 3619 02:30:59,885 --> 02:31:01,428 And they just couldn't decide. 3620 02:31:01,720 --> 02:31:02,387 There was one point where we were both in a canoe 3621 02:31:02,679 --> 02:31:03,847 and then the canoe goes over. 3622 02:31:04,139 --> 02:31:05,557 And then there was one point 3623 02:31:05,849 --> 02:31:07,489 that maybe it was just Jared in the canoe, 3624 02:31:07,643 --> 02:31:09,394 and I was on the dock. 3625 02:31:09,686 --> 02:31:11,188 And then it ended up, no, we'll both be on the dock. 3626 02:31:11,480 --> 02:31:13,480 They weren't sure if they were going to do a sequel 3627 02:31:13,732 --> 02:31:14,441 but they wanted to keep it open-ended 3628 02:31:14,733 --> 02:31:16,318 if they did do a sequel. 3629 02:31:16,610 --> 02:31:18,290 And then they ended up just deciding, Okay, 3630 02:31:18,570 --> 02:31:20,739 he's going to just come out of the water and grab you. 3631 02:31:21,031 --> 02:31:23,408 [screams] 3632 02:31:23,700 --> 02:31:28,747 On Friday, February 13th, 2009, FRIDAY THE 13TH 3633 02:31:29,039 --> 02:31:35,754 was released on 3,105 screens in North America. 3634 02:31:36,046 --> 02:31:38,465 Although it brought in an astounding $43 million 3635 02:31:38,757 --> 02:31:40,259 in its opening weekend, 3636 02:31:40,551 --> 02:31:43,637 negative reviews and a backlash from hardcore fans 3637 02:31:43,929 --> 02:31:46,473 caused the film's box office to plunge 80% 3638 02:31:46,765 --> 02:31:48,475 in its second weekend. 3639 02:31:48,767 --> 02:31:51,228 Nevertheless, the film went on to earn 3640 02:31:51,520 --> 02:31:53,397 $65 million domestically, 3641 02:31:53,689 --> 02:31:55,399 making it the highest grossing film 3642 02:31:55,691 --> 02:31:57,693 among any of the slasher remakes 3643 02:31:57,985 --> 02:32:02,823 and proving that Jason Voorhees can indeed survive anything, 3644 02:32:03,115 --> 02:32:05,659 including his own reinvention. 3645 02:32:05,951 --> 02:32:09,079 Any film that gets remade ever 3646 02:32:09,371 --> 02:32:12,249 is going to come across a lot of criticism. 3647 02:32:12,541 --> 02:32:16,962 We're messing with something that to a lot of people is holy. 3648 02:32:17,254 --> 02:32:18,714 So it doesn't surprise me that there were people 3649 02:32:19,006 --> 02:32:21,216 that weren't happy or satisfied 3650 02:32:21,508 --> 02:32:22,801 with the way they depicted where Jason was living 3651 02:32:23,093 --> 02:32:23,802 and how he was going about killing these people. 3652 02:32:24,094 --> 02:32:26,597 The diehard fans 3653 02:32:26,888 --> 02:32:28,608 kind of got their panties in a wad about it, 3654 02:32:28,682 --> 02:32:31,602 but I thought it was a pretty good execution. 3655 02:32:31,893 --> 02:32:34,980 If you're really a fan of those original things, 3656 02:32:35,272 --> 02:32:36,565 and you're mad that we messed with some original things, 3657 02:32:36,857 --> 02:32:38,734 then go watch the original movies 3658 02:32:39,026 --> 02:32:41,028 and don't come see Michael Bay's remake of it. 3659 02:32:41,320 --> 02:32:43,614 Well, at least Jason wasn't like living in space. 3660 02:32:43,905 --> 02:32:45,907 I had a friend send me something the other day 3661 02:32:46,199 --> 02:32:49,578 saying there was a list of recognizable characters 3662 02:32:49,870 --> 02:32:51,630 in the franchise, and that I was one of them. 3663 02:32:51,788 --> 02:32:53,457 I'm like, That's really cool. 3664 02:32:53,749 --> 02:32:56,752 L've been very fortunate because the fans, fan boys, 3665 02:32:57,044 --> 02:32:59,671 can sort of fall on one side of the fence, 3666 02:32:59,963 --> 02:33:01,298 and they've been very kind to me, 3667 02:33:01,590 --> 02:33:02,830 and I'm very grateful for that. 3668 02:33:03,050 --> 02:33:05,677 We tried to make a fans' dream. 3669 02:33:05,969 --> 02:33:07,638 Because we are fans and I mean I don't know if everyone says, 3670 02:33:07,929 --> 02:33:09,056 You guys aren't really fans. 3671 02:33:09,348 --> 02:33:11,600 But I really am. And I love these movies, 3672 02:33:11,892 --> 02:33:13,852 and we just wanted to write the movie that we wanted to see. 3673 02:33:14,144 --> 02:33:15,062 I just knew I worked on a film that I loved working on 3674 02:33:15,354 --> 02:33:17,439 with a great group of people 3675 02:33:17,731 --> 02:33:20,359 and then when the people started seeing it 3676 02:33:20,651 --> 02:33:22,611 and watching it and coming up to me and telling me 3677 02:33:22,778 --> 02:33:23,945 what they loved about it, 3678 02:33:24,237 --> 02:33:25,364 then I was able to look at it and go, 3679 02:33:25,656 --> 02:33:27,783 I just worked on a FRIDAY THE 13TH movie. 3680 02:33:28,075 --> 02:33:30,035 This is so cool because this is what I grew up on. 3681 02:33:30,160 --> 02:33:32,496 I never thought about growing up 3682 02:33:32,788 --> 02:33:34,148 to try and make one of these films. 3683 02:33:34,247 --> 02:33:36,291 I don't think you dared to dream that high. 3684 02:33:36,583 --> 02:33:38,752 I make no bones about it. I loved making this movie. 3685 02:33:39,044 --> 02:33:41,546 I would love to make another 12 of them. 3686 02:33:41,838 --> 02:33:45,634 You know, I think there's probably more life in Jason, 3687 02:33:45,926 --> 02:33:49,388 and there's just another way to reintroduce him 3688 02:33:49,680 --> 02:33:51,139 into the next generation. 3689 02:33:51,431 --> 02:33:52,724 This is how much of a nerd I am. 3690 02:33:53,016 --> 02:33:55,018 I got chills, which is crazy. 3691 02:33:55,310 --> 02:33:57,938 It's such an honor to be a part of the series. 3692 02:33:58,230 --> 02:34:01,483 It's mind blowing because when I hear Jason I think of Kane, 3693 02:34:01,775 --> 02:34:03,777 C.J. Graham, Ted White. 3694 02:34:04,069 --> 02:34:05,904 You know, I think, Oh, yeah, that's right. 3695 02:34:06,196 --> 02:34:09,408 I got to play Jason. How unreal is that? 3696 02:34:09,700 --> 02:34:11,993 If they do a sequel, I would like to return. 3697 02:34:12,285 --> 02:34:13,912 But if not, even if I'm not asked or I don't return, 3698 02:34:14,204 --> 02:34:15,831 I'm a fan of the series. 3699 02:34:16,123 --> 02:34:16,957 I just want to see more Jason films, 3700 02:34:17,249 --> 02:34:22,249 and I'm totally cool with that. 3701 02:34:37,477 --> 02:34:40,188 No matter when or if 3702 02:34:40,480 --> 02:34:43,316 Jason Voorhees ever hangs up his mask and machete, 3703 02:34:43,608 --> 02:34:46,153 fans will always have their Crystal Lake Memories 3704 02:34:46,445 --> 02:34:49,197 to remind them that the world would indeed 3705 02:34:49,489 --> 02:34:53,410 be a must darker place without FRIDAY THE 13TH. 3706 02:34:53,702 --> 02:34:55,787 It's fun to think that Jason, 3707 02:34:56,079 --> 02:34:58,999 who started off as just this little surprise ending 3708 02:34:59,291 --> 02:35:01,051 on the first one, has turned into a pop icon, 3709 02:35:01,209 --> 02:35:03,086 a virtual cottage industry. 3710 02:35:03,378 --> 02:35:05,630 I don't think anybody, 3711 02:35:05,922 --> 02:35:08,091 myself, Sean or Steve 3712 02:35:08,383 --> 02:35:09,801 or pretty much anybody involved with that picture, 3713 02:35:10,093 --> 02:35:13,054 had any idea that FRIDAY THE 13TH 3714 02:35:13,346 --> 02:35:17,559 would spawn twelve and who knows how many more films? 3715 02:35:17,851 --> 02:35:19,478 I know I didn't. 3716 02:35:19,770 --> 02:35:22,105 Honestly, FRIDAY THE 13TH has given me a gift 3717 02:35:22,397 --> 02:35:25,233 that is just bigger than life itself. 3718 02:35:25,525 --> 02:35:27,986 A movie that I didn't give two cents for 3719 02:35:28,278 --> 02:35:30,947 in the beginning has brought me into the world 3720 02:35:31,239 --> 02:35:32,324 and into the lives of people who have viewed it 3721 02:35:32,616 --> 02:35:34,326 in a very special way. 3722 02:35:34,618 --> 02:35:36,286 If that's how people saw me, 3723 02:35:36,578 --> 02:35:39,164 as kind of the strong, intelligent woman, 3724 02:35:39,456 --> 02:35:43,418 it made me feel pretty empowered. 3725 02:35:43,710 --> 02:35:46,922 To be able to carry it with me for the rest of my life, 3726 02:35:47,214 --> 02:35:49,341 this fun cult film, 3727 02:35:49,633 --> 02:35:51,134 it's something to talk about, 3728 02:35:51,426 --> 02:35:52,746 it's a great conversation starter. 3729 02:35:52,844 --> 02:35:54,221 I can say I was in FRIDAY THE 13TH, 3730 02:35:54,513 --> 02:35:56,681 and I gave Jason his hockey mask, 3731 02:35:56,973 --> 02:35:59,184 and nobody doesn't know what I'm talking about. 3732 02:35:59,476 --> 02:36:00,596 Everyone knows what what is. 3733 02:36:00,852 --> 02:36:02,521 I'm really proud of it. 3734 02:36:02,813 --> 02:36:06,066 I'm part of history, film history. 3735 02:36:06,358 --> 02:36:08,151 You know, this is my first job ever, 3736 02:36:08,443 --> 02:36:10,028 and there I was the lead of this film 3737 02:36:10,320 --> 02:36:12,864 and that sort of, I think that started me off 3738 02:36:13,156 --> 02:36:16,785 to a good path of eventually lots of doctor and lawyer roles. 3739 02:36:17,077 --> 02:36:18,578 It's like a badge of honor, you know, 3740 02:36:18,870 --> 02:36:20,550 of all the iconic horror figures, you know, 3741 02:36:20,705 --> 02:36:23,625 to be killed by Jason, it's really cool. 3742 02:36:23,917 --> 02:36:26,127 The quote is 'you're not an actor 3743 02:36:26,419 --> 02:36:28,713 unless you've done a FRIDAY THE 13TH movie.' 3744 02:36:29,005 --> 02:36:31,842 There are so many people I run into all the time that say, 3745 02:36:32,133 --> 02:36:33,802 You know, I was in a FRIDAY THE 13TH. 3746 02:36:34,094 --> 02:36:36,429 The fact that We become an 'non 3747 02:36:36,721 --> 02:36:39,766 is the weirdest experience of my life. 3748 02:36:40,058 --> 02:36:41,601 Because, you know, there's no reward 3749 02:36:41,893 --> 02:36:42,727 when you're making the damn thing. 3750 02:36:43,019 --> 02:36:44,437 It's a year later when it comes out. 3751 02:36:44,729 --> 02:36:45,522 You're listening to the screams and the applause 3752 02:36:45,814 --> 02:36:48,275 and that's what that's why we do it, you know. 3753 02:36:48,567 --> 02:36:50,610 We went and had a great time watching people 3754 02:36:50,902 --> 02:36:52,362 watch the movie. 3755 02:36:52,654 --> 02:36:57,659 Again, you don't see that very much now. 3756 02:36:57,951 --> 02:37:01,955 Well I guess in some weird way these are classics? 3757 02:37:02,247 --> 02:37:05,292 So I'm happy people enjoy 'em, 3758 02:37:05,584 --> 02:37:09,087 and can laugh about it and not take us all too seriously. 3759 02:37:09,379 --> 02:37:12,757 A lot of actors tend to like kind of shy away from it, 3760 02:37:13,049 --> 02:37:14,342 kind of put it in their past, look the other way, 3761 02:37:14,634 --> 02:37:17,345 act likes it's a porn or something 3762 02:37:17,637 --> 02:37:18,305 that they're not proud of and they just would rather not admit 3763 02:37:18,597 --> 02:37:19,973 that it ever happened. 3764 02:37:20,265 --> 02:37:22,142 For me, I feel quite differently about it. 3765 02:37:22,434 --> 02:37:24,644 I'm grateful to the fans of the horror world, 3766 02:37:24,936 --> 02:37:26,813 and I am grateful that, you know, 3767 02:37:27,105 --> 02:37:28,481 I was welcomed with such open arms 3768 02:37:28,773 --> 02:37:30,233 by the fans of the franchise. 3769 02:37:30,525 --> 02:37:32,402 I loved playing Tommy Jarvis. 3770 02:37:32,694 --> 02:37:34,988 Corey set it up so great in PART 4 3771 02:37:35,280 --> 02:37:37,741 that it was like passing the torch. 3772 02:37:38,033 --> 02:37:40,076 And of course he goes on to PART 6. 3773 02:37:40,368 --> 02:37:43,204 He at least lives, so I must have done something right. 3774 02:37:43,496 --> 02:37:44,789 I just want everyone to know I had a great time, 3775 02:37:45,081 --> 02:37:46,561 I was really proud to be a part of it. 3776 02:37:46,666 --> 02:37:49,377 I am very grateful, 3777 02:37:49,669 --> 02:37:52,047 and I'm glad we can all share a good laugh... or a scream. 3778 02:37:52,339 --> 02:37:54,215 Ethel: Ayyyy-ahhh! 3779 02:37:54,507 --> 02:37:56,927 No matter how twisted these movies seem, 3780 02:37:57,218 --> 02:38:01,056 there's something that actually kind of interweaves 3781 02:38:01,348 --> 02:38:03,975 this whole big group of people that makes it one big family. 3782 02:38:04,267 --> 02:38:06,061 Host: Never in the course of film history 3783 02:38:06,353 --> 02:38:08,313 has a single date 3784 02:38:08,605 --> 02:38:10,273 meant so much to our culture 3785 02:38:10,565 --> 02:38:13,526 than that of FRIDAY THE 13TH. 3786 02:38:13,818 --> 02:38:15,362 It was a party for the launch 3787 02:38:15,654 --> 02:38:18,490 of the Crystal Lake Memories book. 3788 02:38:18,782 --> 02:38:21,826 And then of course, Jason showed up and, you know, 3789 02:38:22,118 --> 02:38:23,787 cut the cake with a machete and that was awfully fun and silly. 3790 02:38:24,079 --> 02:38:28,875 [cheers and applause] 3791 02:38:29,167 --> 02:38:31,795 And I got to meet my father and mother 3792 02:38:32,087 --> 02:38:34,464 from the films, and we had a photo, 3793 02:38:34,756 --> 02:38:36,556 and we felt like we were a family reconnected, 3794 02:38:36,633 --> 02:38:37,968 found each other again. 3795 02:38:38,259 --> 02:38:40,845 And she's this little adult now, 3796 02:38:41,137 --> 02:38:42,722 I think she's going off to college, bless her heart, 3797 02:38:43,014 --> 02:38:44,614 we did really well, she turned out great. 3798 02:38:44,891 --> 02:38:48,061 FRIDAY THE 13TH has been an anchor for a lot of people 3799 02:38:48,353 --> 02:38:50,271 for those who just had it as entertainment, 3800 02:38:50,563 --> 02:38:53,566 but for filmmakers, directors, writers. 3801 02:38:53,858 --> 02:38:56,736 Several years back I had the great opportunity 3802 02:38:57,028 --> 02:38:59,239 to be cast as the standby for Hugh Jackman 3803 02:38:59,531 --> 02:39:01,700 in the Broadway show The Boy from Oz. 3804 02:39:01,992 --> 02:39:05,161 His whole dream to grow up and become an actor 3805 02:39:05,453 --> 02:39:08,081 was based on Jason, he wanted to play Jason. 3806 02:39:08,373 --> 02:39:09,916 REPORTER: So do you ever think that you'll ever play Jason 3807 02:39:10,208 --> 02:39:12,419 in one of those FRIDAY THE 13THs? 3808 02:39:12,711 --> 02:39:14,591 HUGH JACKMAN: Oh man, you've done your research. 3809 02:39:14,671 --> 02:39:16,673 That's what inspired him to be an actor. 3810 02:39:16,965 --> 02:39:18,299 I saw everyone was committed to doing their job 3811 02:39:18,591 --> 02:39:21,344 to 100% and, you know, 3812 02:39:21,636 --> 02:39:22,470 it made me in a way fall in love 3813 02:39:22,762 --> 02:39:24,305 with what it is that I do. 3814 02:39:24,597 --> 02:39:26,641 I do think these movies are essential. 3815 02:39:26,933 --> 02:39:29,853 I think they allow us to live out some weird dark part 3816 02:39:30,145 --> 02:39:31,271 of our personalities. 3817 02:39:31,563 --> 02:39:33,898 I think they're healthy. 3818 02:39:34,190 --> 02:39:35,984 I don't think they're negative on society. 3819 02:39:36,276 --> 02:39:38,111 I think that's an excuse. 3820 02:39:38,403 --> 02:39:40,739 We all love, you know, being scared 3821 02:39:41,031 --> 02:39:41,948 and wondering what's happening behind us and around us. 3822 02:39:42,240 --> 02:39:43,950 [scream] 3823 02:39:44,242 --> 02:39:46,077 I think that's why they last, honestly. 3824 02:39:46,369 --> 02:39:48,621 FRIDAY THE 13TH is always a great date movie, you know. 3825 02:39:48,913 --> 02:39:50,331 We like to say we've been bringing people together 3826 02:39:50,623 --> 02:39:51,332 for thirty years. 3827 02:39:51,624 --> 02:39:54,002 [scream] 3828 02:39:54,294 --> 02:39:57,005 For guys like us who like horror, 3829 02:39:57,297 --> 02:39:59,340 and who like Jason, Michael and Freddy, 3830 02:39:59,632 --> 02:40:02,218 they're part of our culture and so, 3831 02:40:02,510 --> 02:40:03,803 you know, we'll tell our kids about these stories. 3832 02:40:04,095 --> 02:40:06,765 That is what made it scary 3833 02:40:07,057 --> 02:40:09,267 was the fact that you could only deter them. 3834 02:40:09,559 --> 02:40:12,353 There was no way of killing them. 3835 02:40:12,645 --> 02:40:13,855 They were gonna be around for the next generation 3836 02:40:14,147 --> 02:40:15,356 and the next movie, 3837 02:40:15,648 --> 02:40:17,567 No matter what you did to them... 3838 02:40:17,859 --> 02:40:19,444 they were gonna be back. 3839 02:40:19,736 --> 02:40:21,738 How long will this go on? Who knows? 3840 02:40:22,030 --> 02:40:26,826 It could go on for another 20, 30 years. Who knows? 3841 02:40:27,118 --> 02:40:29,245 The amazing following that we have, 3842 02:40:29,537 --> 02:40:31,915 I had no idea, and I'm so pleasantly surprised 3843 02:40:32,207 --> 02:40:34,459 of the fans and everybody. 3844 02:40:34,751 --> 02:40:36,419 They're so nice, and I feel really proud 3845 02:40:36,711 --> 02:40:38,546 to have been a part of it. 3846 02:40:38,838 --> 02:40:41,007 I'm just amazed at the phenomenon this has become. 3847 02:40:41,299 --> 02:40:43,802 I never dreamed when I was doing the film then 3848 02:40:44,094 --> 02:40:46,638 the effect it would have on so many people 3849 02:40:46,930 --> 02:40:49,099 and how there would be such a following 30 years later. 3850 02:40:49,390 --> 02:40:51,601 And I'm so grateful to the fans for their loyalty. 3851 02:40:51,893 --> 02:40:53,186 They've shown me a lot of love 3852 02:40:53,478 --> 02:40:56,898 and that's been very uplifting and surprising. 3853 02:40:57,190 --> 02:41:00,026 L've never met as many people 3854 02:41:00,318 --> 02:41:03,279 that are as excited about saying hello 3855 02:41:03,571 --> 02:41:04,614 to some guy that wore a hockey mask 3856 02:41:04,906 --> 02:41:06,908 and getting his signature. 3857 02:41:07,200 --> 02:41:11,329 They know more about me than I know about myself half the time. 3858 02:41:11,621 --> 02:41:14,207 And they're terrific. They're terrific, terrific people. 3859 02:41:14,499 --> 02:41:16,209 You know, as Andy Warhol said, 3860 02:41:16,501 --> 02:41:18,211 we all have fifteen minutes of fame. 3861 02:41:18,503 --> 02:41:20,547 And thanks to FRIDAY THE 13TH, 3862 02:41:20,839 --> 02:41:24,843 my fifteen minutes, it keeps going. 3863 02:41:25,135 --> 02:41:27,762 You know, it may be a one-time thing for me, I don't know, 3864 02:41:28,054 --> 02:41:29,414 but it has been a great experience. 3865 02:41:29,514 --> 02:41:31,307 I'm taking pictures with 4-year-olds 3866 02:41:31,599 --> 02:41:33,852 with machetes and masks, babies with masks on. 3867 02:41:34,144 --> 02:41:35,562 Most of them come up to me and say, 3868 02:41:35,854 --> 02:41:37,174 Hey, you scared the shit out of me 3869 02:41:37,230 --> 02:41:38,565 when I was 8 years old, you know. 3870 02:41:38,857 --> 02:41:39,607 And I say, Well, what were you doing 3871 02:41:39,899 --> 02:41:41,219 watching the movie at 8 years old? 3872 02:41:41,484 --> 02:41:42,764 When you get that cult following, 3873 02:41:42,944 --> 02:41:44,944 when you get that group of people who's so into it, 3874 02:41:45,029 --> 02:41:47,699 it never goes away. 3875 02:41:47,991 --> 02:41:49,659 They would have stopped making those movies a long time ago 3876 02:41:49,951 --> 02:41:52,704 if they weren't successful. 3877 02:41:52,996 --> 02:41:55,277 And success isn't just money, it's people want to see 'em, 3878 02:41:55,540 --> 02:41:57,208 it's desire, and they trigger something, 3879 02:41:57,500 --> 02:41:59,294 and they become an institution. 3880 02:41:59,586 --> 02:42:02,046 It's so weird now to go into these different stores 3881 02:42:02,338 --> 02:42:04,424 and see these plastic hockey masks 3882 02:42:04,716 --> 02:42:07,010 that are just there because of the FRIDAY thing. 3883 02:42:07,302 --> 02:42:11,055 Between toys, novelizations, non-fiction books, video games, 3884 02:42:11,347 --> 02:42:13,349 if everyone remembers that wonderful Nintendo 3885 02:42:13,641 --> 02:42:14,726 Entertainment System game. 3886 02:42:15,018 --> 02:42:17,270 He is no less marketable than Ronald McDonald 3887 02:42:17,562 --> 02:42:19,022 or Mickey Mouse at this point. 3888 02:42:19,314 --> 02:42:21,608 It's really become part of the everyday culture 3889 02:42:21,900 --> 02:42:23,820 in the American culture and throughout the world. 3890 02:42:24,110 --> 02:42:25,904 It's just an incredible opportunity 3891 02:42:26,196 --> 02:42:28,364 of experiencing something that, you know, 3892 02:42:28,656 --> 02:42:30,909 you're going to look back 15, 20 years, 30 years, 3893 02:42:31,201 --> 02:42:32,961 and just remember that you were part of that. 3894 02:42:33,119 --> 02:42:35,038 What gave me nightmares as a child, 3895 02:42:35,330 --> 02:42:38,416 now it's like a weird full circle. lt's so bizarre. 3896 02:42:38,708 --> 02:42:40,752 How the heck did I get here? 3897 02:42:41,044 --> 02:42:43,129 It's kind of like I've jumped in through my computer monitor, 3898 02:42:43,421 --> 02:42:46,174 and I've joined this secret, fun, murdering society. 3899 02:42:46,466 --> 02:42:47,926 Playing a character that's known around the world 3900 02:42:48,218 --> 02:42:50,929 is an amazing feeling 3901 02:42:51,221 --> 02:42:53,348 and something I'm really proud of, 3902 02:42:53,640 --> 02:42:56,768 and I never expected anything like that 3903 02:42:57,060 --> 02:42:59,354 going into this career as a stuntman, 3904 02:42:59,646 --> 02:43:01,522 and I've just been very lucky, 3905 02:43:01,814 --> 02:43:04,150 and I'll always love the fact that I was Jason. 3906 02:43:04,442 --> 02:43:07,278 FRIDAY THE 13TH in this long odyssey 3907 02:43:07,570 --> 02:43:10,406 towards becoming iconic horror filmmaking, 3908 02:43:10,698 --> 02:43:13,326 it's just an amazing phenomenon. 3909 02:43:13,618 --> 02:43:15,828 I swear to God, I don't understand it, 3910 02:43:16,120 --> 02:43:21,120 and I'm just grateful that it happened. 3911 02:43:30,134 --> 02:43:32,303 And there you have it, the story of Jason Voorhees. 3912 02:43:32,595 --> 02:43:34,722 For now he may be quiet, 3913 02:43:35,014 --> 02:43:38,101 but he will be back. 3914 02:43:38,393 --> 02:43:40,853 The one thing we know for sure... 3915 02:43:41,145 --> 02:43:42,939 Jason's horrific reign of evil 3916 02:43:43,231 --> 02:43:45,984 is eternal... 3917 02:43:46,276 --> 02:43:47,944 immortal... 3918 02:43:48,236 --> 02:43:56,236 and unstoppable. 3919 02:43:59,080 --> 02:44:02,041 Jason is still out there... 3920 02:44:02,333 --> 02:44:07,380 and maybe... just maybe... 3921 02:44:07,672 --> 02:44:12,672 he's closer than you think. 3922 02:44:27,942 --> 02:44:31,362 Kill her, Mommy. 3923 02:44:31,654 --> 02:44:35,158 Paul there's somebody in this room. 3924 02:44:35,450 --> 02:44:37,827 There's somebody in this fucking room! 3925 02:44:38,119 --> 02:44:43,291 Whooo! This feels good! 3926 02:44:43,583 --> 02:44:45,001 Dude, that goalie was pissed about something. 3927 02:44:45,293 --> 02:44:46,794 If Vera had... 3928 02:44:47,086 --> 02:44:48,171 Boo! 3929 02:44:48,463 --> 02:44:51,215 [Scream] Ohhhh! 3930 02:44:51,507 --> 02:44:54,552 It's that creep Shelly. What a sick sense of humor. 3931 02:44:54,844 --> 02:44:56,637 Why do you do these stupid things? 3932 02:44:56,929 --> 02:44:58,806 I just want you to like me. 3933 02:44:59,098 --> 02:45:01,098 I have seen enough horror movies to know any weirdo 3934 02:45:01,351 --> 02:45:03,644 wearing a mask is never friendly. 3935 02:45:03,936 --> 02:45:05,646 I don't think so, Maddy. 3936 02:45:05,938 --> 02:45:07,618 You could use a little touch-up work first. 3937 02:45:07,690 --> 02:45:13,571 Need a little bit of touch-up work, my ass. 3938 02:45:13,863 --> 02:45:16,908 This sucks on so many levels! 3939 02:45:17,200 --> 02:45:21,412 Now I say we regroup, 3940 02:45:21,704 --> 02:45:23,289 and let's go find this mother-fucker 3941 02:45:23,581 --> 02:45:26,709 before he finds us. Huh? Are you with me? 3942 02:45:27,001 --> 02:45:28,441 You didn't get me in the lake, Jason, 3943 02:45:28,669 --> 02:45:34,050 and you're not going to get me now! 3944 02:45:34,342 --> 02:45:36,969 Tommy! Tommy, get the hell out of here! 3945 02:45:37,261 --> 02:45:38,901 That's what's known as screwin' the pooch! 3946 02:45:39,097 --> 02:45:44,394 Bad news Crews. 3947 02:45:44,685 --> 02:45:50,983 I'm in the mood for I feel like a Jarvis Sandwich! 3948 02:45:51,275 --> 02:45:53,986 When I looked into that mirror I knew I'd always be ugly. 3949 02:45:54,278 --> 02:45:59,325 I said, 'Lizzie, you'll always be plain. 3950 02:45:59,617 --> 02:46:01,869 Are you ready for Tony the Wonder Llama? 3951 02:46:02,161 --> 02:46:03,788 I told you to sit on it, Tonto. 3952 02:46:04,080 --> 02:46:04,914 Hey, you're lucky you weren't alive 3953 02:46:05,206 --> 02:46:08,042 during the Microsoft conflict. 3954 02:46:08,334 --> 02:46:09,377 We were beating each other over the heads 3955 02:46:09,669 --> 02:46:11,129 with our own severed limbs. 3956 02:46:11,421 --> 02:46:13,631 Come on, Sara, strip and dip? 3957 02:46:13,923 --> 02:46:17,510 Freddy died by fire, Jason by water. 3958 02:46:17,802 --> 02:46:22,640 How can we use that? 3959 02:46:22,932 --> 02:46:25,059 Dude, that's not a good look for you. 3960 02:46:25,351 --> 02:46:27,854 You ask the one black guy to pump the gas for you? Shit. 3961 02:46:28,146 --> 02:46:32,108 Do you... 3962 02:46:32,400 --> 02:46:34,320 You know, I gave up a weekend with Mary Jo Conrad 3963 02:46:34,444 --> 02:46:36,320 to be here with you. 3964 02:46:36,612 --> 02:46:38,656 You know, Jimmy, you're a dead fuck. 3965 02:46:38,948 --> 02:46:42,034 Yeah, well, I guess I do owe you. 3966 02:46:42,326 --> 02:46:45,413 You slut! [laughter] 3967 02:46:45,705 --> 02:46:50,251 Stay here. Relax. L'll be right back. 3968 02:46:50,543 --> 02:46:55,923 I'm gonna chop you into itty- bitty little pieces, my friend. 3969 02:46:56,215 --> 02:46:58,301 Just like I done to that piggo 3970 02:46:58,593 --> 02:47:00,178 over at that fuckin' crazy farm. 3971 02:47:00,470 --> 02:47:02,180 You tell 'em, Ma! 3972 02:47:02,472 --> 02:47:05,600 Ayyyyyy-ahhhh! 3973 02:47:05,892 --> 02:47:13,892 Melissa's a bitch. [laughter] No, I can't even do it. 3974 02:47:14,650 --> 02:47:17,010 Jason belongs in hell. And I'm gonna see that he gets there. 3975 02:47:17,278 --> 02:47:21,157 Wherever the red dot goes, ya bang. 3976 02:47:21,449 --> 02:47:23,451 Nobody's gonna touch that fuckin' ray of sunshine. 3977 02:47:23,743 --> 02:47:25,328 [tongue lapping sound] 3978 02:47:25,620 --> 02:47:27,205 Rrrrrrrrruffff! 3979 02:47:27,497 --> 02:47:30,500 My earring 3980 02:47:30,791 --> 02:47:33,586 Must be my imagination. 3981 02:47:33,878 --> 02:47:35,755 Survival's the name of the game, 3982 02:47:36,047 --> 02:47:39,842 and that flag is mine. 3983 02:47:40,134 --> 02:47:42,178 We never should have let her play. 3984 02:47:42,470 --> 02:47:44,847 Oh God, somebody help! He's trying to kill me! 3985 02:47:45,139 --> 02:47:48,100 You're not just a lousy doctor, 3986 02:47:48,392 --> 02:47:50,811 you're a blank-blank-blank coward! [laughter] 3987 02:47:51,103 --> 02:47:54,190 Aww, what scary man? 3988 02:47:54,482 --> 02:47:56,859 It's the best. The best! 3989 02:47:57,151 --> 02:47:59,237 You're talking to the prom queen, Eva. 3990 02:47:59,529 --> 02:48:01,239 Do you really think I'm going to risk getting caught? 3991 02:48:01,531 --> 02:48:03,282 What's brown and sits on a piano? 3992 02:48:03,574 --> 02:48:05,159 Beethoven's last movement. 3993 02:48:05,451 --> 02:48:07,078 [party horn sound] 3994 02:48:07,370 --> 02:48:08,690 Hey buddy, where are you, Michael? 3995 02:48:08,955 --> 02:48:11,123 Hey buddy? [party horn sound] 3996 02:48:11,415 --> 02:48:13,584 Ben? Are you coming back or not? 3997 02:48:13,876 --> 02:48:15,253 And then [slashing sound] 3998 02:48:15,545 --> 02:48:17,004 That's it. Come to Momma. 3999 02:48:17,296 --> 02:48:19,215 Mmmm. Smart and sexy. 4000 02:48:19,507 --> 02:48:24,554 [sounds of agony] 4001 02:48:24,845 --> 02:48:26,605 The story could have happened anywhere, dude. 4002 02:48:26,639 --> 02:48:29,559 That's how they get little kids to shit themselves. 4003 02:48:29,850 --> 02:48:34,188 May I please have the wallet ma'am. 4004 02:48:34,480 --> 02:48:37,316 You've got perfect nipple placement, baby. 4005 02:48:37,608 --> 02:48:40,403 L've actually said that to a woman before. 4006 02:48:40,695 --> 02:48:43,030 Wow, you really know how to make a girl feel special. 4007 02:48:43,322 --> 02:48:47,827 Jason's out there. And he's hungry. 4008 02:48:48,119 --> 02:48:52,540 Ma'am... we didn't find any boy. 4009 02:48:52,832 --> 02:49:00,832 Then he's still there. 4010 02:49:01,507 --> 02:49:04,927 Yeah, when I was doing the films CLERKS, MALL RATS, 4011 02:49:05,219 --> 02:49:07,930 CHASING AMY and JAY AND SILENT BOB STRIKE BACK, 4012 02:49:08,222 --> 02:49:11,726 um... wait a minute... I wasn't in those movies. 322029

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