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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:19,269 --> 00:00:24,821 I was assigned a listening post at Con Thien in the fall. 2 00:00:24,942 --> 00:00:28,867 That was like getting a death sentence at a trial. 3 00:00:28,987 --> 00:00:31,285 Because that's just three Marines out there with a radio. 4 00:00:32,783 --> 00:00:34,410 And that's the scariest thing I did. 5 00:00:34,535 --> 00:00:37,209 You're listening for the enemy. 6 00:00:37,329 --> 00:00:40,333 They call you on the radio every hour, 7 00:00:40,457 --> 00:00:41,800 "Delta, Lima, Papa, Three, Bravo, 8 00:00:41,917 --> 00:00:45,262 "Delta, Lima, Papa, Three, Bravo, this is Delta Three. 9 00:00:45,379 --> 00:00:48,428 “If your sit rep is alpha sierra, key your handset twice. 10 00:00:49,925 --> 00:00:51,485 "If your situation report is all secure, 11 00:00:51,635 --> 00:00:53,182 break squelch twice on the handset." 12 00:00:55,305 --> 00:00:57,307 And if it's not, they keep thinking you're asleep 13 00:00:57,432 --> 00:00:59,935 so they keep asking you, "If your sit rep is alpha sierra," 14 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:01,340 and then it finally dawns on them 15 00:01:01,436 --> 00:01:03,985 maybe there's somebody too close for you to say anything. 16 00:01:04,106 --> 00:01:06,985 So then they say, "If your sit rep is negative alpha sierra, 17 00:01:07,150 --> 00:01:08,493 key your handset once," 18 00:01:08,610 --> 00:01:10,547 and you damn near squeeze the handle off the, you know, 19 00:01:10,571 --> 00:01:13,666 and two on the radio because they're so close 20 00:01:13,824 --> 00:01:15,747 that you can hear them whispering to one another. 21 00:01:18,203 --> 00:01:19,580 And that's scary stuff. 22 00:01:19,705 --> 00:01:20,831 That's real scary stuff. 23 00:01:20,998 --> 00:01:24,593 And I'm scared of the dark, still. 24 00:01:24,710 --> 00:01:27,509 I still got a night light. 25 00:01:27,671 --> 00:01:30,845 When my kids were growing up, 26 00:01:30,966 --> 00:01:34,561 that's the first time they really found out 27 00:01:34,678 --> 00:01:36,772 that Daddy'd been in a war when they said, 28 00:01:36,888 --> 00:01:39,357 "Well, why do we need to outgrow our night lights? 29 00:01:39,474 --> 00:01:40,817 Daddy's still got one." 30 00:01:47,858 --> 00:01:51,954 Let the word go forth from this time and place, 31 00:01:52,070 --> 00:01:54,869 to friend and foe alike, 32 00:01:55,032 --> 00:01:59,082 that the torch has been passed to a new generation 33 00:01:59,202 --> 00:02:05,801 of Americans born in this century, tempered by war, 34 00:02:05,917 --> 00:02:09,547 disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, 35 00:02:09,671 --> 00:02:11,014 proud of our... 36 00:02:11,131 --> 00:02:12,883 I still believed, very much, 37 00:02:13,008 --> 00:02:17,559 in this concept of an heroic America, 38 00:02:17,721 --> 00:02:20,315 America being a really special country, 39 00:02:20,432 --> 00:02:23,561 the best country in the world, the best democracy, 40 00:02:23,727 --> 00:02:27,607 all the things that we believe about it, which... 41 00:02:27,731 --> 00:02:29,825 and I didn't really see anything wrong with that. 42 00:02:32,569 --> 00:02:37,075 I was sure that we were right to be in Vietnam. 43 00:02:37,199 --> 00:02:39,293 You know, because it started under Kennedy 44 00:02:39,409 --> 00:02:41,878 and, to me, JFK was God. 45 00:02:41,995 --> 00:02:45,420 Anything that he thought was right, I thought was right. 46 00:02:47,709 --> 00:02:51,759 At 43, John Fitzgerald Kennedy was the youngest man 47 00:02:51,922 --> 00:02:55,426 ever elected president of the United States. 48 00:02:55,550 --> 00:02:57,894 He had promised bold new leadership, 49 00:02:58,011 --> 00:03:01,265 and to his supporters his inauguration seemed to signal 50 00:03:01,390 --> 00:03:04,109 a new day. 51 00:03:04,226 --> 00:03:07,105 To those new states whom we welcome 52 00:03:07,270 --> 00:03:10,023 to the ranks of the free, 53 00:03:10,148 --> 00:03:16,030 we pledge our word that one form of colonial control 54 00:03:16,154 --> 00:03:18,577 shall not have passed away 55 00:03:18,699 --> 00:03:23,796 merely to be replaced by afar more iron tyranny. 56 00:03:23,954 --> 00:03:29,006 We shall not always expect to find them supporting our view. 57 00:03:29,126 --> 00:03:33,552 But we shall always hope to find them strongly supporting 58 00:03:33,672 --> 00:03:39,020 their own freedom and to remember that, in the past, 59 00:03:39,136 --> 00:03:42,561 those who foolishly sought power 60 00:03:42,681 --> 00:03:46,936 by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside. 61 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,613 The new president gathered around him 62 00:03:57,738 --> 00:04:01,459 an extraordinary set of advisors who shared his determination 63 00:04:01,575 --> 00:04:06,547 to confront communism, including Secretary of State Dean Rusk, 64 00:04:06,663 --> 00:04:10,384 National Security Advisor McGeorge Bundy, 65 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:13,128 his deputy Walt Rostow, 66 00:04:13,253 --> 00:04:17,508 special military advisor General Maxwell Taylor, 67 00:04:17,674 --> 00:04:21,178 and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, 68 00:04:21,303 --> 00:04:22,850 who had given up his post 69 00:04:23,013 --> 00:04:26,893 as president of the Ford Motor Company to serve his country. 70 00:04:27,017 --> 00:04:33,024 He was a pioneer in the field of systems analysis. 71 00:04:33,148 --> 00:04:35,901 Like the president who picked them, 72 00:04:36,026 --> 00:04:40,122 all of Kennedy's men had served during World War II. 73 00:04:40,238 --> 00:04:42,536 Each had absorbed what they all believed 74 00:04:42,657 --> 00:04:44,500 was its central lesson: 75 00:04:44,618 --> 00:04:48,589 ambitious dictatorships needed to be halted in their tracks 76 00:04:48,705 --> 00:04:51,879 before they constituted a serious danger 77 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,002 to the peace of the world. 78 00:04:54,127 --> 00:04:57,301 Meanwhile, in South Vietnam, 79 00:04:57,422 --> 00:04:59,390 the National Liberation Front- 80 00:04:59,549 --> 00:05:02,302 labeled by its enemies the Viet Cong... 81 00:05:02,427 --> 00:05:04,680 was determined to overthrow 82 00:05:04,805 --> 00:05:07,854 the anticommunist and increasingly autocratic 83 00:05:07,974 --> 00:05:11,148 government of Ngo Dinh Diem. 84 00:05:11,269 --> 00:05:15,240 In North Vietnam, unbeknownst to Washington, 85 00:05:15,398 --> 00:05:19,244 Ho Chi Minh, the father of Vietnamese independence, 86 00:05:19,402 --> 00:05:22,576 was now sharing power with a more aggressive leader, 87 00:05:22,697 --> 00:05:25,576 Le Duan, who was even more impatient 88 00:05:25,700 --> 00:05:28,078 to reunify his country. 89 00:05:48,473 --> 00:05:51,943 None of us knew anything about Vietnam. 90 00:05:52,102 --> 00:05:56,152 Vietnam in those days was a piece on a chessboard, 91 00:05:56,273 --> 00:05:58,321 a strategic chessboard, 92 00:05:58,441 --> 00:06:02,287 not a place with a culture and a history 93 00:06:02,404 --> 00:06:07,831 that we would have an impossible time changing, 94 00:06:07,951 --> 00:06:10,795 even with the mighty force of the United States. 95 00:06:10,954 --> 00:06:15,460 Over the next three years, the United States would struggle 96 00:06:15,584 --> 00:06:19,964 to understand the complicated country it had come to save, 97 00:06:20,088 --> 00:06:23,137 fail to appreciate the enemy's resolve, 98 00:06:23,258 --> 00:06:26,853 and misread how the South Vietnamese people really felt 99 00:06:26,970 --> 00:06:28,938 about their government. 100 00:06:30,849 --> 00:06:33,022 The new president would find himself caught 101 00:06:33,143 --> 00:06:37,740 between the momentum of war and the desire for peace, 102 00:06:37,856 --> 00:06:40,826 between humility and hubris, 103 00:06:40,942 --> 00:06:47,325 between idealism and expediency, between the truth and a lie. 104 00:07:07,552 --> 00:07:10,726 And so, my fellow Americans, 105 00:07:10,847 --> 00:07:15,853 ask not what your country can do for you, 106 00:07:15,977 --> 00:07:18,230 ask what you can do for your country. 107 00:07:25,111 --> 00:07:28,957 I grew up in Missouri, near Kansas City, 108 00:07:29,074 --> 00:07:32,123 a little community called Fairmount. 109 00:07:32,243 --> 00:07:33,665 I was born in 1948. 110 00:07:33,787 --> 00:07:36,256 And there were lots of kids being born in those days 111 00:07:36,373 --> 00:07:38,017 from the guys who were lucky enough to come home 112 00:07:38,041 --> 00:07:39,041 from World War II. 113 00:07:40,251 --> 00:07:43,676 My dad was a pilot in the Army Air Corps. 114 00:07:43,797 --> 00:07:46,471 And all of dad's friends 115 00:07:46,591 --> 00:07:49,595 were World War II vets or Korean vets. 116 00:07:49,719 --> 00:07:52,313 And all of my male teachers were veterans. 117 00:07:52,430 --> 00:07:54,808 And even my pastor had been a chaplain. 118 00:07:56,393 --> 00:08:01,069 Well, they were my heroes, and I wanted to be like them. 119 00:08:08,154 --> 00:08:10,998 For all of John Kennedy's soaring rhetoric, 120 00:08:11,116 --> 00:08:13,665 for all the talent he gathered around him, 121 00:08:13,785 --> 00:08:17,039 the first months of his presidency did not go well. 122 00:08:17,163 --> 00:08:21,464 He approved a CIA-sponsored invasion of Cuba 123 00:08:21,584 --> 00:08:26,055 at the Bay of Pigs that ended in disaster. 124 00:08:26,172 --> 00:08:27,924 He felt he'd been bullied 125 00:08:28,091 --> 00:08:30,389 by Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev 126 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:32,763 at a summit meeting in Vienna. 127 00:08:32,887 --> 00:08:35,106 He was unable to keep the Soviets 128 00:08:35,265 --> 00:08:37,484 from building the Berlin Wall. 129 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,730 And in Southeast Asia, he refused to intervene 130 00:08:41,855 --> 00:08:45,029 against a communist insurrection in Laos. 131 00:08:45,150 --> 00:08:49,701 Critics accused him of being immature, indecisive, 132 00:08:49,821 --> 00:08:53,416 inadequate to the task of combating what seemed to be 133 00:08:53,533 --> 00:08:55,911 a mounting communist threat. 134 00:08:56,036 --> 00:08:59,461 "There are just so many concessions that we can make 135 00:08:59,581 --> 00:09:01,879 in one year and survive politically," 136 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,631 he confided to an aide in the spring of 1961. 137 00:09:06,796 --> 00:09:11,973 In South Vietnam, Kennedy felt he had to act. 138 00:09:12,135 --> 00:09:14,684 After the president received reports 139 00:09:14,804 --> 00:09:17,273 that the Viet Cong might be in control 140 00:09:17,390 --> 00:09:21,315 of more than half the densely populated Mekong Delta, 141 00:09:21,436 --> 00:09:25,441 he dispatched General Maxwell Taylor and Walt Rostow 142 00:09:25,565 --> 00:09:27,613 to Vietnam. 143 00:09:27,734 --> 00:09:31,455 They urged him to commit American ground troops. 144 00:09:31,571 --> 00:09:33,118 Kennedy refused. 145 00:09:33,239 --> 00:09:36,834 It would be like taking a first drink, he said- 146 00:09:36,993 --> 00:09:39,997 the effect would soon wear off and there would be demands 147 00:09:40,163 --> 00:09:43,463 for another and another and another. 148 00:09:43,583 --> 00:09:46,928 Instead, in the midst of a cold war, 149 00:09:47,045 --> 00:09:50,174 with its constant risk of nuclear confrontation, 150 00:09:50,340 --> 00:09:53,514 the president supported a new “flexible" way 151 00:09:53,676 --> 00:09:59,149 to confront and contain communism: limited war. 152 00:09:59,265 --> 00:10:03,941 This is another type of warfare, new in its intensity, 153 00:10:04,062 --> 00:10:06,565 ancient in its origin... 154 00:10:06,689 --> 00:10:11,536 war by guerrillas, subversives, insurgents, assassins; 155 00:10:11,653 --> 00:10:15,954 war by ambush instead of by combat; 156 00:10:16,074 --> 00:10:18,577 by infiltration instead of aggression. 157 00:10:20,370 --> 00:10:22,714 To fight his "limited wars," 158 00:10:22,872 --> 00:10:25,716 Kennedy hoped to use the elite Green Berets, 159 00:10:25,834 --> 00:10:29,304 special forces trained in guerrilla warfare, 160 00:10:29,420 --> 00:10:31,923 counterinsurgency. 161 00:10:32,048 --> 00:10:36,724 They were meant to be dispatched to hotspots around the world. 162 00:10:36,886 --> 00:10:39,560 Khrushchev said, "We're not going to destroy you 163 00:10:39,722 --> 00:10:41,065 with nuclear weapons, 164 00:10:41,224 --> 00:10:44,273 we're going to destroy you with wars of national liberation." 165 00:10:44,394 --> 00:10:46,271 Everybody talked about the fact 166 00:10:46,396 --> 00:10:51,072 that communism was spreading and it had to be stopped. 167 00:10:51,192 --> 00:10:53,820 You went to Command and General Staff College 168 00:10:53,945 --> 00:10:57,415 and you were playing on maps with nuclear weapons 169 00:10:57,574 --> 00:10:59,121 and so forth. 170 00:10:59,242 --> 00:11:04,089 And I escaped from that by getting into Special Forces. 171 00:11:04,205 --> 00:11:06,799 So that instead of planning what we were going to do 172 00:11:06,916 --> 00:11:11,843 if World War III broke out, we were actually doing stuff. 173 00:11:13,423 --> 00:11:16,768 And Vietnam was a place where we were going to draw the line. 174 00:11:18,428 --> 00:11:20,101 Kennedy sent the Green Berets 175 00:11:20,263 --> 00:11:22,436 to the Central Highlands of Vietnam 176 00:11:22,599 --> 00:11:26,103 to organize mountain tribes to fight the Viet Cong 177 00:11:26,269 --> 00:11:30,900 and to undertake covert missions to sabotage their supply bases 178 00:11:31,024 --> 00:11:33,994 in Laos and Cambodia. 179 00:11:34,110 --> 00:11:38,581 But Kennedy understood that counterinsurgency alone 180 00:11:38,698 --> 00:11:39,745 would never be enough, 181 00:11:39,866 --> 00:11:43,336 so he doubled funding for South Vietnam's army, 182 00:11:43,453 --> 00:11:48,710 dispatched helicopters and APCs, armored personnel carriers. 183 00:11:51,753 --> 00:11:55,474 Kennedy also authorized the use of napalm 184 00:11:55,590 --> 00:11:59,970 and the spraying of defoliants to deny cover to the Viet Cong 185 00:12:00,136 --> 00:12:03,891 and destroy the crops that fed them. 186 00:12:04,015 --> 00:12:07,064 A whole array of chemicals was used, 187 00:12:07,185 --> 00:12:10,564 including one named for the color of the stripes 188 00:12:10,688 --> 00:12:16,616 on the 55-gallon drums in which it came- "Agent Orange." 189 00:12:16,736 --> 00:12:20,206 And the president quietly continued to increase 190 00:12:20,323 --> 00:12:23,167 the number of American military advisors. 191 00:12:23,326 --> 00:12:28,548 Within two years, the number he had inherited would grow 192 00:12:28,665 --> 00:12:31,839 to 11,300, 193 00:12:32,001 --> 00:12:34,424 empowered not only to teach 194 00:12:34,545 --> 00:12:37,469 the Army of the Republic of Vietnam-the ARVN- 195 00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:39,513 to fight a conventional war, 196 00:12:39,676 --> 00:12:41,804 but to accompany them into battle, 197 00:12:41,928 --> 00:12:45,432 a violation of the agreement that had divided Vietnam 198 00:12:45,556 --> 00:12:46,556 back in 1954. 199 00:12:50,311 --> 00:12:54,236 The administration did its best to hide from the American people 200 00:12:54,357 --> 00:12:56,701 the scale of the buildup that was taking place 201 00:12:56,818 --> 00:12:58,536 on the other side of the world, 202 00:12:58,695 --> 00:13:01,414 fearful that the public would not support 203 00:13:01,531 --> 00:13:08,380 the more active role advisors had begun to play in combat. 204 00:13:08,496 --> 00:13:11,045 Mr. President, a Republican National Committee publication 205 00:13:11,207 --> 00:13:14,461 has said that you are... have been less than candid 206 00:13:14,585 --> 00:13:18,385 with the American people as to how deeply we are involved 207 00:13:18,506 --> 00:13:20,258 in Vietnam. 208 00:13:20,383 --> 00:13:22,886 Could you throw any more light on that? 209 00:13:23,011 --> 00:13:25,011 We have increased our assistance to the government, 210 00:13:25,096 --> 00:13:26,814 its logistics. 211 00:13:26,931 --> 00:13:28,774 We have not sent combat troops there. 212 00:13:28,891 --> 00:13:32,065 Though the training missions that we have there 213 00:13:32,186 --> 00:13:34,905 have been instructed if they are fired upon to... 214 00:13:35,064 --> 00:13:37,908 they are, would of course, fire back, to protect themselves. 215 00:13:38,026 --> 00:13:39,744 But we have not sent combat troops 216 00:13:39,861 --> 00:13:42,080 in the generally understood sense of the word. 217 00:13:42,238 --> 00:13:47,870 So that I-I feel that we are being as frank as the... 218 00:13:47,994 --> 00:13:49,166 as we can be. 219 00:13:49,287 --> 00:13:50,789 I think we... what I have said to you 220 00:13:50,913 --> 00:13:53,962 is a description of our activity there. 221 00:13:58,588 --> 00:14:01,933 I was a child of the Cold War. 222 00:14:02,050 --> 00:14:05,475 When I got off the plane in Saigon on a humid evening 223 00:14:05,595 --> 00:14:07,438 in April 1962, 224 00:14:07,555 --> 00:14:11,401 I really believed in all the ideology of the Cold War. 225 00:14:11,517 --> 00:14:12,518 On... 226 00:14:12,643 --> 00:14:15,112 That if we lost South Vietnam, 227 00:14:15,271 --> 00:14:17,671 that the rest of Southeast Asia would fall to the communists. 228 00:14:17,732 --> 00:14:21,487 There was an international communist conspiracy. 229 00:14:21,611 --> 00:14:24,080 We believed fervently in this stuff. 230 00:14:24,197 --> 00:14:28,043 Neil Sheehan was a 25-year-old reporter 231 00:14:28,159 --> 00:14:31,459 for United Press International, UPI. 232 00:14:31,579 --> 00:14:35,629 He had served three years in the Army in Korea and Japan 233 00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:38,469 before deciding to become a newspaperman. 234 00:14:38,586 --> 00:14:42,762 Vietnam was his first full-time overseas assignment, 235 00:14:42,882 --> 00:14:44,759 and his only worry, he remembered, 236 00:14:44,884 --> 00:14:47,512 was that he would get there too late and miss out 237 00:14:47,637 --> 00:14:49,605 on the big story. 238 00:14:49,722 --> 00:14:53,818 Sheehan and other reporters rode along as the ARVN mounted 239 00:14:53,976 --> 00:14:57,480 a series of helicopter assaults on enemy strongholds 240 00:14:57,605 --> 00:14:59,903 in the Mekong Delta and elsewhere 241 00:15:00,024 --> 00:15:03,369 and brought terror to the Viet Cong. 242 00:15:03,486 --> 00:15:06,490 American pilots were at the controls. 243 00:15:06,614 --> 00:15:10,994 It was a crusade and it was thrilling. 244 00:15:11,119 --> 00:15:13,588 And you'd climb aboard the helicopters 245 00:15:13,704 --> 00:15:16,958 with the Vietnamese soldiers who were being taken out to battle. 246 00:15:17,083 --> 00:15:18,630 And they'd take off. 247 00:15:18,751 --> 00:15:21,345 And they'd contour-fly, they'd skim across the rice paddies 248 00:15:21,504 --> 00:15:23,632 at about three or four feet above the paddies, 249 00:15:23,756 --> 00:15:27,602 and then pop up over the tree lines that lined the fields. 250 00:15:27,718 --> 00:15:28,890 It was thrilling. 251 00:15:29,011 --> 00:15:30,322 I mean it was absolutely thrilling. 252 00:15:30,346 --> 00:15:33,350 And you believed in what was happening. 253 00:15:33,474 --> 00:15:35,522 I mean you had the sense that we're fighting here 254 00:15:35,643 --> 00:15:39,398 and some day we'll win, and this country will be a better, 255 00:15:39,522 --> 00:15:40,722 better country for our coming. 256 00:15:42,525 --> 00:15:45,369 The new M-113 armored personnel carriers 257 00:15:45,528 --> 00:15:49,158 were capable of churning across rivers and rice paddies 258 00:15:49,282 --> 00:15:51,034 and right through the earthen dikes 259 00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:53,412 that separated one field from the next. 260 00:15:54,871 --> 00:15:59,877 The Viet Cong had nothing with which to stop them. 261 00:16:00,001 --> 00:16:05,679 We were just overwhelming them with force, with firepower. 262 00:16:05,798 --> 00:16:09,052 And the firefights would be over in a pretty short time. 263 00:16:09,218 --> 00:16:11,846 We have some people running along the dikes. 264 00:16:11,971 --> 00:16:14,815 Actually, the canal is perpendicular 265 00:16:14,932 --> 00:16:16,309 to the one you're attacking now. 266 00:16:16,434 --> 00:16:20,280 They have on black uniforms, and I estimate approximately 3-0. 267 00:16:20,396 --> 00:16:22,945 Do you have them in sight? Over. 268 00:16:23,065 --> 00:16:25,238 That's what was causing us to win, see. 269 00:16:25,401 --> 00:16:28,496 And we were winning one after the other. 270 00:16:28,613 --> 00:16:32,163 And we were not meeting a heck of a lot of resistance. 271 00:16:32,283 --> 00:16:36,038 Captain James Scanlon had been stationed in West Germany 272 00:16:36,162 --> 00:16:39,257 and had seen for himself the brutality with which 273 00:16:39,373 --> 00:16:41,876 the communist East Germans dealt with anyone 274 00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:45,426 who dared try to escape to the West. 275 00:16:45,588 --> 00:16:47,761 He was now in the Mekong Delta, 276 00:16:47,924 --> 00:16:50,848 an advisor to the 7th Division of the ARVN, 277 00:16:50,968 --> 00:16:55,644 and had begun to see evidence of Viet Cong brutality as well. 278 00:16:58,935 --> 00:17:02,485 Those of us who talked to the people who fled East Germany, 279 00:17:02,605 --> 00:17:06,610 we saw the need to stop the growth of communism, 280 00:17:06,734 --> 00:17:10,113 to stop the dominoes from being tumbled. 281 00:17:10,279 --> 00:17:12,782 That was a worthy cause. 282 00:17:14,283 --> 00:17:17,958 As the ARVN and their advisors pursued the Viet Cong, 283 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:20,714 the government of Ngo Dinh Diem had launched 284 00:17:20,831 --> 00:17:25,132 an ambitious program meant to gain control of the countryside 285 00:17:25,253 --> 00:17:27,881 by concentrating the rural population 286 00:17:28,005 --> 00:17:30,554 into thousands of fortified settlements, 287 00:17:30,675 --> 00:17:34,976 ringed with barbed wire and moats and bamboo spikes 288 00:17:35,137 --> 00:17:37,765 meant to keep out the Viet Cong. 289 00:17:37,890 --> 00:17:42,236 They were called strategic hamlets, part of the effort 290 00:17:42,353 --> 00:17:45,482 to win the hearts and minds, and loyalty, 291 00:17:45,606 --> 00:17:46,983 of the Vietnamese people. 292 00:17:47,108 --> 00:17:51,659 The French had tried something like it a decade before. 293 00:17:51,821 --> 00:17:55,701 They had called it pacification. 294 00:17:55,825 --> 00:17:58,374 President Diem's strategic hamlet program 295 00:17:58,494 --> 00:18:00,838 is making substantial progress. 296 00:18:00,997 --> 00:18:05,594 About 1,600 of the some 14,000 hamlets 297 00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:09,260 have been fortified to date. 298 00:18:09,380 --> 00:18:11,553 By the summer of 1962, 299 00:18:11,674 --> 00:18:15,019 news from South Vietnam seemed so promising 300 00:18:15,136 --> 00:18:18,857 that Defense Secretary Robert McNamara made sure 301 00:18:19,015 --> 00:18:22,019 the Pentagon was prepared to implement a plan 302 00:18:22,184 --> 00:18:25,609 for a gradual withdrawal of American advisors 303 00:18:25,730 --> 00:18:28,279 to be completed by 1965. 304 00:18:28,399 --> 00:18:31,903 So far as most Americans knew, 305 00:18:32,028 --> 00:18:34,872 the United States was achieving its goal: 306 00:18:34,989 --> 00:18:38,209 a stable, independent, anticommunist state 307 00:18:38,367 --> 00:18:40,415 in South Vietnam. 308 00:18:40,536 --> 00:18:44,962 It was "a struggle this country cannot shirk," 309 00:18:45,082 --> 00:18:46,834 the New York Times said, 310 00:18:46,959 --> 00:18:51,339 and the United States seemed to be winning it. 311 00:18:53,049 --> 00:18:56,895 But that same summer, Ho Chi Minh traveled to Beijing 312 00:18:57,053 --> 00:19:00,523 in search of more help from the Chinese. 313 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,894 The American buildup in South Vietnam had alarmed him 314 00:19:04,018 --> 00:19:06,191 and the other leaders in Hanoi. 315 00:19:06,312 --> 00:19:09,566 Ho told the Chinese that American attacks 316 00:19:09,690 --> 00:19:15,447 on North Vietnam itself now seemed only a matter of time. 317 00:19:15,571 --> 00:19:19,576 The Chinese promised to equip and arm tens of thousands 318 00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:22,670 of Vietnamese soldiers. 319 00:19:22,787 --> 00:19:26,257 Meanwhile, the Politburo in Hanoi had directed 320 00:19:26,415 --> 00:19:29,635 that every able-bodied North Vietnamese man 321 00:19:29,752 --> 00:19:34,599 be required to serve in the armed forces. 322 00:19:41,597 --> 00:19:43,770 Inspired by their president's call, 323 00:19:43,933 --> 00:19:47,107 thousands of young Americans would join the Peace Corps 324 00:19:47,228 --> 00:19:51,028 and other organizations to help project American ideals 325 00:19:51,148 --> 00:19:53,492 and goodwill around the world. 326 00:20:05,454 --> 00:20:10,130 We were not only there in Vietnam to stop communism, 327 00:20:10,292 --> 00:20:14,013 but there had to be something positive. 328 00:20:14,130 --> 00:20:17,350 We're trying to find out what the Vietnamese people want 329 00:20:17,466 --> 00:20:20,060 and to help them get it. 330 00:20:20,177 --> 00:20:21,394 And that was very simple 331 00:20:21,512 --> 00:20:23,514 but, if you think about it, also very complex. 332 00:20:23,639 --> 00:20:25,983 But it went to the heart, I thought, 333 00:20:26,142 --> 00:20:28,486 of what we were trying to do. 334 00:20:30,521 --> 00:20:33,741 Pete Hunting, a 22-year-old from Oklahoma City, 335 00:20:33,858 --> 00:20:37,408 would go to Vietnam right after college to do what he could 336 00:20:37,528 --> 00:20:40,748 to help poor villagers in the countryside. 337 00:20:40,865 --> 00:20:43,288 # I was a soldier in the fight # 338 00:20:43,409 --> 00:20:45,628 # And I fought till we won # 339 00:20:45,745 --> 00:20:49,795 # My uniform's my dirty overhauls. # 340 00:20:49,915 --> 00:20:51,667 Dear Margo, 341 00:20:51,834 --> 00:20:54,178 I finally finished up my work in Phan Rang last week. 342 00:20:54,336 --> 00:20:56,179 Had spent a month working on a windmill 343 00:20:56,297 --> 00:20:58,265 I'd promised the people of one hamlet. 344 00:20:58,382 --> 00:21:02,888 Cost a lot of money, too, which I paid out of my own pocket. 345 00:21:03,012 --> 00:21:06,767 # Well, I'll give you my sweat, I'll give you my blood. # 346 00:21:06,891 --> 00:21:08,985 I'm in soaring spirits today 347 00:21:09,101 --> 00:21:12,230 despite all the natural disasters, political intrigues, 348 00:21:12,354 --> 00:21:14,356 and subversive activities. 349 00:21:14,482 --> 00:21:16,860 Pete Hunting worked 350 00:21:16,984 --> 00:21:19,737 for the International Voluntary Services, 351 00:21:19,862 --> 00:21:23,583 a nonprofit organization committed to improving 352 00:21:23,699 --> 00:21:26,794 agriculture, education, and public health. 353 00:21:26,911 --> 00:21:30,040 He was one of hundreds of dedicated aid workers 354 00:21:30,206 --> 00:21:32,709 in South Vietnam. 355 00:21:32,833 --> 00:21:36,554 # My hoe is my gun. # 356 00:21:36,712 --> 00:21:38,940 Latest news on this side of the world 357 00:21:38,964 --> 00:21:41,026 is that I'll almost definitely be extending over here 358 00:21:41,050 --> 00:21:42,893 for another two years, 359 00:21:43,052 --> 00:21:45,225 providing the country stays in one piece that long. 360 00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:50,401 Two years after he arrived, 361 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:52,903 Pete Hunting was driving in the Mekong Delta 362 00:21:53,062 --> 00:21:55,815 when he ran into a Viet Cong ambush. 363 00:21:55,940 --> 00:21:59,410 He was shot five times in the head... 364 00:22:01,153 --> 00:22:03,076 the first American civilian volunteer 365 00:22:03,239 --> 00:22:05,867 to be killed in Vietnam. 366 00:22:34,395 --> 00:22:36,648 People used to joke in Vietnam 367 00:22:36,772 --> 00:22:38,399 about winning the hearts and minds. 368 00:22:38,524 --> 00:22:42,028 And you hear that expression, but that should not be a joke. 369 00:22:42,152 --> 00:22:44,325 It's a serious, serious problem. 370 00:22:44,446 --> 00:22:46,869 If you pull off a military operation, 371 00:22:46,991 --> 00:22:50,586 and it may be successful on the military basis, 372 00:22:50,703 --> 00:22:53,547 but you destroy a village, 373 00:22:53,664 --> 00:22:57,385 then you've created a village of resistance. 374 00:22:57,501 --> 00:23:01,301 Few advisers understood the unique challenges 375 00:23:01,422 --> 00:23:04,141 of fighting an insurgency in Vietnam 376 00:23:04,258 --> 00:23:08,138 better than Lieutenant Colonel John Paul Vann. 377 00:23:08,262 --> 00:23:10,856 A career soldier from Virginia, 378 00:23:10,973 --> 00:23:13,146 he was the senior American advisor 379 00:23:13,267 --> 00:23:17,192 to the 7th ARVN Division in the Mekong Delta. 380 00:23:17,313 --> 00:23:21,784 Small, wiry and abrasive, John Paul Vann was convinced 381 00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:25,997 he knew how to defeat the Viet Cong. 382 00:23:26,113 --> 00:23:30,619 John Paul Vann was simply the most remarkable soldier 383 00:23:30,743 --> 00:23:31,790 I ever met. 384 00:23:31,911 --> 00:23:33,754 Period. 385 00:23:33,871 --> 00:23:38,593 The biggest challenge of John Paul Vann's life 386 00:23:38,709 --> 00:23:44,557 was somehow saving Vietnam, winning. 387 00:23:44,673 --> 00:23:47,552 That, to him, was the ultimate challenge. 388 00:23:50,179 --> 00:23:51,726 When it became clear to Vann 389 00:23:51,847 --> 00:23:54,691 that the tactics the Americans had taught the ARVN 390 00:23:54,850 --> 00:23:57,899 were beginning to make more enemies than friends, 391 00:23:58,020 --> 00:24:02,617 he sought out newspapermen to spread the word. 392 00:24:02,733 --> 00:24:06,579 He was able to explain to us what was going on. 393 00:24:06,695 --> 00:24:09,995 The important thing was not to alienate the population. 394 00:24:10,115 --> 00:24:12,959 That if you got sniper fire from a hamlet, 395 00:24:13,077 --> 00:24:15,375 you sent in riflemen to take out the sniper. 396 00:24:15,496 --> 00:24:17,777 You didn't shell the place, because you were going to kill 397 00:24:17,873 --> 00:24:20,126 women and kids and destroy houses 398 00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:22,719 and you were going to turn the population against you. 399 00:24:25,005 --> 00:24:28,225 Most press coverage of Vietnam was upbeat 400 00:24:28,384 --> 00:24:31,012 in the tradition of previous wars. 401 00:24:31,136 --> 00:24:35,892 But a handful of young reporters including Neil Sheehan, 402 00:24:36,058 --> 00:24:38,481 David Halberstam of the New York Times, 403 00:24:38,602 --> 00:24:41,105 and Malcolm Browne of the Associated Press, 404 00:24:41,230 --> 00:24:44,985 who spent time in the field with officers like Vann, 405 00:24:45,109 --> 00:24:49,114 were beginning to see that from the Vietnamese countryside, 406 00:24:49,238 --> 00:24:51,411 things looked very different than they did 407 00:24:51,532 --> 00:24:55,287 from the press offices in Washington or Saigon. 408 00:24:55,411 --> 00:24:59,587 So it was terribly important that we not only win the war 409 00:24:59,748 --> 00:25:02,467 but that we as reporters report the truth 410 00:25:02,584 --> 00:25:05,428 that would help to win the war. 411 00:25:05,546 --> 00:25:08,550 We were very fervent in wanting to report the truth 412 00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:11,723 because it was very important to the welfare of our country 413 00:25:11,844 --> 00:25:13,141 and to the welfare of the world. 414 00:25:15,305 --> 00:25:18,730 Sheehan and his colleagues began asking tough questions 415 00:25:18,851 --> 00:25:23,778 about what constituted progress, what victory would look like, 416 00:25:23,897 --> 00:25:26,150 and if the people in the countryside, 417 00:25:26,275 --> 00:25:29,905 where 80% of South Vietnam's population lived, 418 00:25:30,029 --> 00:25:34,785 could ever trust the government in Saigon. 419 00:25:34,908 --> 00:25:37,878 I remember going, during one of Robert McNamaras visits, 420 00:25:37,995 --> 00:25:40,965 out to one of these hamlets. 421 00:25:41,081 --> 00:25:42,600 The Vietnamese general who commanded the area 422 00:25:42,624 --> 00:25:44,185 was telling McNamara what a wonderful thing this was. 423 00:25:44,209 --> 00:25:46,678 And the-the... some of these farmers were down 424 00:25:46,795 --> 00:25:50,425 digging a ditch around the... around the hamlet. 425 00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:53,849 And I looked at their faces and they were really angry. 426 00:25:55,637 --> 00:25:57,184 I mean it was very obvious to me 427 00:25:57,306 --> 00:26:00,059 that if these people could, they'd cut our throats. 428 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,405 Farmers resented being forced to abandon their homes 429 00:26:08,525 --> 00:26:10,948 and move to strategic hamlets. 430 00:26:11,070 --> 00:26:15,041 Corrupt officials siphoned off funds. 431 00:26:15,157 --> 00:26:17,535 And villagers blamed the Diem regime 432 00:26:17,659 --> 00:26:21,505 for failing to protect them from guerrilla attacks. 433 00:26:21,663 --> 00:26:26,794 As the people's anger grew, so did the ranks of the Viet Cong. 434 00:26:26,919 --> 00:26:31,174 It turned out that the Viet Cong were recruiting men 435 00:26:31,340 --> 00:26:34,719 right out of those strategic... so-called strategic hamlets. 436 00:26:34,843 --> 00:26:36,845 And then the whole program fell apart. 437 00:27:00,744 --> 00:27:04,544 Nguyen Ngoc's father was a postal clerk south of Danang. 438 00:27:04,665 --> 00:27:09,136 His brothers and sisters taught in South Vietnamese schools. 439 00:27:09,253 --> 00:27:12,883 But he joined the revolution, and as a political officer, 440 00:27:13,048 --> 00:27:16,894 wrote poems, songs, and slogans to inspire the people 441 00:27:17,010 --> 00:27:21,481 in the countryside to support the Viet Cong. 442 00:27:21,598 --> 00:27:26,104 The Viet Cong cadre would come in and talk to them 443 00:27:26,228 --> 00:27:30,984 and their message is usually, 444 00:27:31,108 --> 00:27:33,577 which means "turn your grief into action. 445 00:27:33,735 --> 00:27:36,079 "Do something about it. 446 00:27:36,238 --> 00:27:38,115 "Join us. 447 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,583 "We'll fight together. 448 00:27:39,741 --> 00:27:44,212 "We'll liberate the country from this corrupt, unjust government. 449 00:27:44,329 --> 00:27:46,206 "We'll throw out the foreigners. 450 00:27:46,331 --> 00:27:48,004 "We'll reunify the country. 451 00:27:48,125 --> 00:27:51,174 "And we'll bring in this great regime 452 00:27:51,295 --> 00:27:52,797 "that will take care of you 453 00:27:52,921 --> 00:27:54,719 and bring economic and social justice." 454 00:27:56,842 --> 00:27:59,937 The Viet Cong ran rival local governments, 455 00:28:00,053 --> 00:28:03,774 complete with their own tax collectors and school teachers, 456 00:28:03,891 --> 00:28:08,271 spies and propagandists, and province chiefs. 457 00:28:10,898 --> 00:28:13,071 To make matters worse, 458 00:28:13,192 --> 00:28:16,947 ARVN troops and American advisors now found themselves 459 00:28:17,070 --> 00:28:19,949 confronted by a new threat: 460 00:28:20,073 --> 00:28:23,202 battalions of well-armed Viet Cong soldiers, 461 00:28:23,327 --> 00:28:26,456 as well as by local guerrillas. 462 00:28:26,622 --> 00:28:28,795 We'd armed them. 463 00:28:28,916 --> 00:28:32,216 You could hear the arming of the Viet Cong. 464 00:28:32,336 --> 00:28:35,761 Back in early '62, they only had one machine gun per battalion. 465 00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:38,471 It was sporadic fire. 466 00:28:38,634 --> 00:28:42,480 Then, as they captured more and more of these American arms, 467 00:28:42,638 --> 00:28:44,390 when you made contact, it fi... 468 00:28:44,514 --> 00:28:46,733 it would build up into a drumfire of automatic 469 00:28:46,850 --> 00:28:48,272 and semi-automatic weapons. 470 00:28:55,067 --> 00:28:58,162 Secretary McNamara decided that he would draw up 471 00:28:58,278 --> 00:29:00,997 some kind of a chart to determine 472 00:29:01,156 --> 00:29:03,955 whether we were winning or not. 473 00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:06,670 And he was putting things in 474 00:29:06,787 --> 00:29:09,506 like numbers of weapons recovered, 475 00:29:09,665 --> 00:29:11,884 numbers of Viet Cong killed. 476 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,344 Very statistical. 477 00:29:16,922 --> 00:29:19,300 And he asked Edward Lansdale, 478 00:29:19,424 --> 00:29:23,145 who was then in the Pentagon as head of Special Operations, 479 00:29:23,262 --> 00:29:25,230 to come down and look at this. 480 00:29:25,347 --> 00:29:29,477 And so Lansdale did and he said, "There's something missing." 481 00:29:29,601 --> 00:29:32,775 And McNamara said, "What?" 482 00:29:32,896 --> 00:29:36,400 And Lansdale said, "The feelings of the Vietnamese people." 483 00:29:36,525 --> 00:29:40,371 You couldn't reduce this to a statistic. 484 00:29:40,487 --> 00:29:45,038 Robert McNamara had vowed to make America's military 485 00:29:45,158 --> 00:29:46,501 "cost-effective." 486 00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:50,293 He demanded that everything be quantified. 487 00:29:50,414 --> 00:29:54,214 In Saigon, General Paul D. Harkins, 488 00:29:54,334 --> 00:29:57,588 head of the Military Assistance Command, Vietnam, 489 00:29:57,713 --> 00:30:00,933 known as MACV, dutifully complied. 490 00:30:01,049 --> 00:30:05,646 He and his staff generated mountains of daily, weekly, 491 00:30:05,762 --> 00:30:07,890 monthly, and quarterly data 492 00:30:08,056 --> 00:30:11,026 on more than a hundred separate indicators, 493 00:30:11,143 --> 00:30:15,569 far more data than could ever be adequately analyzed. 494 00:30:19,067 --> 00:30:21,820 General Harkins had little use for skeptical reporters 495 00:30:21,945 --> 00:30:23,447 like Neil Sheehan. 496 00:30:23,572 --> 00:30:26,041 Bad news was to be buried. 497 00:30:26,158 --> 00:30:30,254 Harkins ignored the alarming after action reports 498 00:30:30,412 --> 00:30:33,916 John Paul Vann and other officers were sending in 499 00:30:34,082 --> 00:30:36,005 from the field. 500 00:30:36,126 --> 00:30:39,096 I was going to be made head of the Vietnam desk 501 00:30:39,212 --> 00:30:41,135 at CIA headquarters. 502 00:30:41,256 --> 00:30:44,556 And the first person of importance that I met 503 00:30:44,676 --> 00:30:46,849 was General Harkins. 504 00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:49,393 And he started out by saying, 505 00:30:49,514 --> 00:30:52,267 "Mr. Gregg, I don't care what you hear from anybody else, 506 00:30:52,392 --> 00:30:54,746 "I can tell you without a doubt we're going to be out of here 507 00:30:54,770 --> 00:30:56,568 with a military victory in six months." 508 00:30:58,106 --> 00:30:59,986 The country's 12 million peasants 509 00:31:00,108 --> 00:31:02,657 can scarcely remember what peace was like. 510 00:31:02,778 --> 00:31:04,621 They're caught between the predatory guerrillas 511 00:31:04,738 --> 00:31:07,207 and the almost equally demanding soldiery. 512 00:31:07,324 --> 00:31:09,622 Their lives are lived in a state of permanent uncertainty, 513 00:31:09,743 --> 00:31:12,292 punctuated by bouts of violence 514 00:31:12,454 --> 00:31:13,797 as government forces come to grips 515 00:31:13,914 --> 00:31:16,133 with the black-clad communist rebel forces 516 00:31:16,249 --> 00:31:17,546 called the Viet Cong. 517 00:32:49,676 --> 00:32:52,350 CAO XUAN DAI. 518 00:33:15,619 --> 00:33:19,840 On our side we were not as committed 519 00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:21,796 and we were... 520 00:33:21,917 --> 00:33:25,137 our leaders were corrupt and incompetent. 521 00:33:25,253 --> 00:33:30,180 And so deep down we'll always have this fear, 522 00:33:30,342 --> 00:33:35,849 this suspicion that in the end it'll be the communists who won. 523 00:33:36,014 --> 00:33:39,439 When John Kennedy assembled 524 00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:41,561 what he thinks is the best and the brightest, 525 00:33:41,686 --> 00:33:47,910 20 years before that in a cave in the northern part 526 00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:50,620 of Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh also put together 527 00:33:50,737 --> 00:33:52,114 his best and the brightest. 528 00:33:52,239 --> 00:33:55,288 And these guys are at it for a while. 529 00:33:55,408 --> 00:33:58,912 And when we show up, they were far along 530 00:33:59,037 --> 00:34:04,840 to consolidating their victory over this inevitable conflict 531 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,466 between Ho Chi Minh and John F. Kennedy's vision. 532 00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:14,561 The more you think about the American strategy, 533 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,269 the more you know 534 00:34:18,390 --> 00:34:21,143 that it was never going to work out particularly well. 535 00:34:36,074 --> 00:34:41,752 I was at my top of my game when I was in combat. 536 00:34:46,793 --> 00:34:49,842 You don't have the luxury to indulge your fear 537 00:34:49,963 --> 00:34:51,886 because other people's lives depend upon 538 00:34:52,048 --> 00:34:53,300 you keeping your head cold. 539 00:35:02,058 --> 00:35:05,028 You know, when something goes wrong, 540 00:35:05,145 --> 00:35:06,397 they call it emotional numbing. 541 00:35:06,563 --> 00:35:08,782 It's not very good in civilian life, 542 00:35:08,898 --> 00:35:11,071 but it's pretty useful in combat. 543 00:35:22,746 --> 00:35:25,340 To be able to get absolutely very cold 544 00:35:25,457 --> 00:35:30,588 about what needs to be done and to stick with it. 545 00:35:36,509 --> 00:35:39,433 To me it's, it's a little bit distressing to realize 546 00:35:39,554 --> 00:35:41,181 that I was at my best 547 00:35:41,306 --> 00:35:43,934 doing something as terrible as war. 548 00:35:53,443 --> 00:35:55,946 President Kennedy has staked his reputation in Asia 549 00:35:56,071 --> 00:35:58,915 on saving South Vietnam from communism. 550 00:35:59,032 --> 00:36:01,330 As the army makes the sweep towards the village 551 00:36:01,451 --> 00:36:03,249 suspected of harboring Viet Cong, 552 00:36:03,411 --> 00:36:06,460 it can't tell whether it will meet resistance. 553 00:36:12,712 --> 00:36:14,840 The troops round up all the young men they can find, 554 00:36:14,964 --> 00:36:18,013 since they can't tell who is a communist just by looking. 555 00:36:20,553 --> 00:36:23,181 Those who try to run for it are shot 556 00:36:23,306 --> 00:36:25,229 on the assumption they have something to hide. 557 00:37:16,943 --> 00:37:21,790 Each of South Vietnam's 44 provinces had its own chief. 558 00:37:21,948 --> 00:37:24,701 Some were simply political appointees, 559 00:37:24,826 --> 00:37:27,579 corrupt allies of President Diem. 560 00:37:27,704 --> 00:37:33,302 Tran Ngoc Chau, province chief of Kien Hoa, was different. 561 00:37:33,460 --> 00:37:38,261 A privileged judge's son from the old imperial city of Hue, 562 00:37:38,381 --> 00:37:41,305 he and two of his brothers had fought against the French 563 00:37:41,468 --> 00:37:42,811 with the Viet Minh. 564 00:37:42,969 --> 00:37:46,974 But he had refused to join the Communist Party; 565 00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:50,019 he admired their dedication, but disliked the way 566 00:37:50,143 --> 00:37:53,272 they punished those who dared differ with them. 567 00:37:53,396 --> 00:37:56,320 Instead, he left the Viet Minh, 568 00:37:56,483 --> 00:37:59,578 became a major in the army fighting against them, 569 00:37:59,694 --> 00:38:03,494 and eventually so impressed Diem with his insider's knowledge 570 00:38:03,615 --> 00:38:07,415 of communist tactics that he was promoted to colonel 571 00:38:07,535 --> 00:38:13,338 and made chief of Kien Hoa, a Viet Cong stronghold. 572 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:17,175 He was absolutely incorruptible. 573 00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:22,222 And people came to really understand that here's a guy 574 00:38:22,342 --> 00:38:25,346 who's, even though it's not an elected system, 575 00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:28,269 who never... nevertheless really represents us. 576 00:38:30,016 --> 00:38:31,896 "Give me a budget that equals the cost 577 00:38:32,018 --> 00:38:36,194 of one American helicopter," Chau liked to say, 578 00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:38,908 "and I'll give you a pacified province. 579 00:38:39,025 --> 00:38:43,075 "With that much money, I can raise the standard of living 580 00:38:43,196 --> 00:38:44,743 "of the rice farmers, 581 00:38:44,864 --> 00:38:46,584 "and government officials can be paid enough 582 00:38:46,699 --> 00:38:51,375 so they won't think it necessary to steal." 583 00:38:51,538 --> 00:38:53,961 Rather than hunt down the Viet Cong, 584 00:38:54,082 --> 00:38:56,710 he sought to persuade them. 585 00:39:52,098 --> 00:39:55,693 Back home, Americans were paying little attention 586 00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:57,983 to what was happening in Vietnam. 587 00:39:58,104 --> 00:40:00,823 They were watching The Beverly Hillbillies 588 00:40:00,940 --> 00:40:03,034 and Gunsmoke on TV, 589 00:40:03,151 --> 00:40:06,075 were interested in whether the Yankees would win 590 00:40:06,195 --> 00:40:07,572 the World Series again 591 00:40:07,697 --> 00:40:11,793 and in the recent death of Marilyn Monroe. 592 00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:17,457 But some Americans had been growing impatient 593 00:40:17,582 --> 00:40:20,802 with the slow pace of social change. 594 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,553 We were told in the '50s 595 00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:25,344 that we lived in the best country in the world. 596 00:40:25,465 --> 00:40:28,844 In the middle of, you know, trying to figure out 597 00:40:28,968 --> 00:40:31,221 what it meant to be a citizen of the... 598 00:40:31,346 --> 00:40:33,644 of this best country in the world, 599 00:40:33,806 --> 00:40:35,558 suddenly the civil rights movement exploded 600 00:40:35,683 --> 00:40:37,606 into our consciousness. 601 00:40:37,727 --> 00:40:43,825 # When the night has come... # 602 00:40:43,983 --> 00:40:45,826 We didn't think we had any power. 603 00:40:45,985 --> 00:40:49,080 We didn't think we could be actors in history, 604 00:40:49,197 --> 00:40:51,791 that we could affect things. 605 00:40:54,035 --> 00:40:57,084 # No, I won't be afraid # 606 00:40:57,205 --> 00:40:59,003 # Oh, I won't... # 607 00:40:59,165 --> 00:41:00,792 And suddenly, you know, 608 00:41:00,917 --> 00:41:02,840 these young black students in the South 609 00:41:02,961 --> 00:41:04,508 were doing exactly that. 610 00:41:04,671 --> 00:41:07,675 And it just blew the tops of our heads off. 611 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,438 # So darling, darling, stand by me # 612 00:41:13,554 --> 00:41:17,809 # Oh, stand by me # 613 00:41:17,934 --> 00:41:23,065 # Oh, stand, stand by me # 614 00:41:23,189 --> 00:41:25,942 # Stand by me # 615 00:41:26,067 --> 00:41:28,695 # If the sky that we look upon... # 616 00:41:28,861 --> 00:41:32,206 Other Americans were concerned about the proliferation 617 00:41:32,365 --> 00:41:35,539 of nuclear weapons in the world. 618 00:41:35,702 --> 00:41:39,582 Perhaps it would be a good thing to put Khrushchev and Kennedy 619 00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:43,506 on an island and not let either one of them off 620 00:41:43,626 --> 00:41:45,924 until they came to an agreement. 621 00:41:46,045 --> 00:41:48,389 # Stand by me # 622 00:41:48,548 --> 00:41:53,349 # And darling, darling, stand by me. # 623 00:42:08,693 --> 00:42:11,822 And if you were in a cafe when Diem was giving a speech, 624 00:42:11,946 --> 00:42:13,706 somebody would get up and shut the radio off, 625 00:42:13,823 --> 00:42:15,496 it would be coming in over the radio. 626 00:42:15,616 --> 00:42:17,914 Somebody would get up and they'd just shut the radio off. 627 00:42:18,036 --> 00:42:22,166 I mean, he was not connected with... to his own population. 628 00:42:25,168 --> 00:42:30,049 Diem was simply the opposite of what democracy was. 629 00:42:30,173 --> 00:42:33,928 South Vietnam, in the competition against the North, 630 00:42:34,052 --> 00:42:39,104 that should been, should have been a golden opportunity 631 00:42:39,223 --> 00:42:44,605 to have that society open with the free press, 632 00:42:44,729 --> 00:42:46,697 free expression. 633 00:42:46,814 --> 00:42:49,533 But there was not much choice 634 00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:54,030 if the two system are structurally dictator 635 00:42:54,155 --> 00:42:55,452 and oppressive systems... 636 00:42:55,573 --> 00:43:01,797 one under the Communist Party, one under a family. 637 00:43:18,763 --> 00:43:22,313 Diem's brother, Ngo Dinh Nhu, had been the architect 638 00:43:22,475 --> 00:43:24,819 of the strategic hamlet program, 639 00:43:24,977 --> 00:43:29,073 ran a personal political party that mirrored the techniques 640 00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:31,659 and the ruthlessness of the communists, 641 00:43:31,776 --> 00:43:35,906 and supervised a host of internal security units 642 00:43:36,030 --> 00:43:40,160 that spied on and seized enemies of the regime. 643 00:43:42,036 --> 00:43:44,130 Some reporters who probed too deeply 644 00:43:44,247 --> 00:43:46,670 into what Diem and Nhu were doing 645 00:43:46,833 --> 00:43:48,961 were ordered out of the country. 646 00:43:50,169 --> 00:43:52,513 When an American journalist objected, 647 00:43:52,672 --> 00:43:56,677 Nhu's sharp-tongued wife told him Vietnam had no use 648 00:43:56,843 --> 00:43:59,437 for "your crazy freedoms." 649 00:44:00,847 --> 00:44:02,690 Meanwhile, out in the countryside, 650 00:44:02,849 --> 00:44:06,979 John Paul Vann and other advisors had begun to notice 651 00:44:07,103 --> 00:44:10,824 that the corruption within Diem's regime had filtered down 652 00:44:10,940 --> 00:44:12,863 to the commanders in the field. 653 00:44:12,984 --> 00:44:17,865 Troops, who had once been willing to engage the enemy, 654 00:44:18,030 --> 00:44:22,035 now seemed strangely reluctant. 655 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,961 God, I was told so many times, "." 656 00:44:27,081 --> 00:44:28,958 You know, "Scanlon,." 657 00:44:29,083 --> 00:44:30,175 Um... 658 00:44:30,293 --> 00:44:35,470 very dangerous, you know, going out there. 659 00:44:35,590 --> 00:44:38,309 John Vann would go out with them at night. 660 00:44:38,426 --> 00:44:42,522 And he noticed that somebody would always cough 661 00:44:42,638 --> 00:44:46,017 or make some other slight noise when it turned out 662 00:44:46,142 --> 00:44:48,520 that the Viet Cong were heading into the ambush site. 663 00:44:48,644 --> 00:44:50,362 They did not want to get in a fight. 664 00:44:50,479 --> 00:44:53,653 South Vietnamese officers were chosen 665 00:44:53,774 --> 00:44:57,244 less for their combat skill than for their loyalty 666 00:44:57,403 --> 00:45:01,249 to President Diem, and their men knew it. 667 00:45:02,575 --> 00:45:03,918 What we should've done is 668 00:45:04,035 --> 00:45:08,586 either forced the Vietnamese... I mean really forced them- 669 00:45:08,706 --> 00:45:10,754 to clean up their act. 670 00:45:10,917 --> 00:45:12,919 And if they wouldn't clean up their act to say, 671 00:45:13,044 --> 00:45:15,342 "We're out of here. 672 00:45:15,463 --> 00:45:18,262 "Because we don't bet on losing horses. 673 00:45:18,382 --> 00:45:20,760 "This is a losing horse. 674 00:45:20,885 --> 00:45:23,104 You are not going to win this insurgency." 675 00:45:23,262 --> 00:45:25,936 We, as Americans, should have understood the desire 676 00:45:26,098 --> 00:45:29,568 of the Vietnamese people to have their own country. 677 00:45:29,685 --> 00:45:32,655 I mean we did the same thing to the Brits. 678 00:45:38,319 --> 00:45:43,120 In October of 1962, the United States and the Soviet Union 679 00:45:43,282 --> 00:45:46,081 came closer than they would ever come again 680 00:45:46,202 --> 00:45:48,830 to mutually assured destruction. 681 00:45:48,955 --> 00:45:51,959 Good evening, my fellow citizens. 682 00:45:52,083 --> 00:45:56,008 This government, as promised, has maintained 683 00:45:56,128 --> 00:45:59,974 the closest surveillance of the Soviet military buildup 684 00:46:00,091 --> 00:46:01,809 on the island of Cuba. 685 00:46:02,843 --> 00:46:04,845 Within the past week, 686 00:46:04,971 --> 00:46:08,271 unmistakable evidence has established the fact 687 00:46:08,391 --> 00:46:11,770 that a series of offensive missile sites 688 00:46:11,894 --> 00:46:16,821 is now in preparation on that imprisoned island. 689 00:46:16,983 --> 00:46:20,157 The Soviets had secretly placed nuclear missiles 690 00:46:20,278 --> 00:46:23,282 90 miles from the United States. 691 00:46:23,406 --> 00:46:28,287 The Joint Chiefs of Staff urged President Kennedy to bomb Cuba. 692 00:46:28,411 --> 00:46:32,507 He resisted and instead ordered a naval blockade 693 00:46:32,665 --> 00:46:37,011 to stop Soviet ships from resupplying the island. 694 00:46:38,671 --> 00:46:44,019 For 13 excruciating days, the world held its breath. 695 00:46:47,513 --> 00:46:50,733 Finally, in exchange for a private pledge 696 00:46:50,850 --> 00:46:53,524 to remove American missiles from Turkey, 697 00:46:53,686 --> 00:46:57,236 Khrushchev agreed to remove his missiles from Cuba. 698 00:47:00,109 --> 00:47:03,033 Neither the United States nor the Soviet Union 699 00:47:03,154 --> 00:47:07,159 wanted so direct a confrontation ever again. 700 00:47:07,283 --> 00:47:09,706 From now on, limited wars, 701 00:47:09,827 --> 00:47:12,296 like the growing conflict in Vietnam, 702 00:47:12,413 --> 00:47:15,838 would assume still greater importance. 703 00:47:19,170 --> 00:47:23,641 I'd grown up in the shadow of the mushroom cloud. 704 00:47:23,758 --> 00:47:27,763 And I remember the... watching President Kennedy speak 705 00:47:27,887 --> 00:47:29,434 during the Cuban Missile Crisis 706 00:47:29,555 --> 00:47:31,728 and wondering if I was ever gonna kiss a girl. 707 00:47:31,891 --> 00:47:34,735 And so this was just continuing that battle 708 00:47:34,852 --> 00:47:36,570 against the Russians. 709 00:47:36,729 --> 00:47:40,233 Only we were fighting, you know, their, their proxies, 710 00:47:40,358 --> 00:47:43,737 the Vietnamese there- but it was monolithic communism. 711 00:47:45,237 --> 00:47:48,081 It didn't matter to me where it was, I was going to go 712 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:52,245 if my government said we needed to be there. 713 00:47:52,411 --> 00:47:55,290 We were probably the last kids of any generation 714 00:47:55,414 --> 00:47:56,631 that actually believed 715 00:47:56,749 --> 00:47:58,467 our government would never lie to us. 716 00:48:03,756 --> 00:48:06,054 We had been writing stories about all the flaws 717 00:48:06,175 --> 00:48:08,974 on the Saigon side- about how they wouldn't fight, 718 00:48:09,095 --> 00:48:11,814 about the corruption, they wouldn't obey orders, 719 00:48:11,931 --> 00:48:13,433 the disorganization. 720 00:48:15,434 --> 00:48:19,940 And then all of a sudden the Viet Cong, for the first time, 721 00:48:20,106 --> 00:48:21,449 the "raggedy-ass little bastards" 722 00:48:21,565 --> 00:48:24,318 as the Harkins's people in Saigon called them, 723 00:48:24,443 --> 00:48:25,945 stood and fought. 724 00:48:26,112 --> 00:48:28,331 And suddenly all the flaws on the Saigon side 725 00:48:28,447 --> 00:48:30,745 were illuminated by this. 726 00:48:30,866 --> 00:48:34,040 Like a star shell, it illuminated the battlefield. 727 00:48:34,161 --> 00:48:35,629 Everything came out. 728 00:48:36,914 --> 00:48:40,168 A few days after Christmas 1962, 729 00:48:40,292 --> 00:48:43,762 the 7th ARVN Division got orders to capture 730 00:48:43,879 --> 00:48:46,007 a Viet Cong radio transmitter 731 00:48:46,132 --> 00:48:50,808 broadcasting from a spot some 40 miles southwest of Saigon 732 00:48:50,928 --> 00:48:53,852 in a village called Tan Thoi. 733 00:48:53,973 --> 00:48:56,692 The village was surrounded by rice paddles. 734 00:48:56,809 --> 00:49:02,737 An irrigation dike linked it to a neighboring hamlet-Ap Bac. 735 00:49:02,857 --> 00:49:07,158 Intelligence suggested no more than 120 guerrillas 736 00:49:07,319 --> 00:49:09,617 were guarding the transmitter. 737 00:49:09,738 --> 00:49:13,038 John Paul Vann helped draw up what seemed to be 738 00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:15,503 a foolproof plan of attack. 739 00:49:15,661 --> 00:49:19,837 Supported by helicopters and armored personnel carriers, 740 00:49:19,999 --> 00:49:23,845 some 1,200 South Vietnamese troops would attack the village 741 00:49:24,003 --> 00:49:25,801 from three sides. 742 00:49:25,921 --> 00:49:28,765 When the surviving Viet Cong tried to flee through the gap 743 00:49:28,883 --> 00:49:32,808 left open for them, as they always had whenever outnumbered 744 00:49:32,928 --> 00:49:35,101 and confronted by modern weapons, 745 00:49:35,222 --> 00:49:38,692 artillery and airstrikes would destroy them. 746 00:49:38,851 --> 00:49:43,277 Vann would observe the fighting from a spotter plane. 747 00:49:43,397 --> 00:49:48,995 But the intelligence underlying it all turned out to be wrong. 748 00:49:49,111 --> 00:49:54,618 There were more than 340 Viet Cong, not 120, in the area. 749 00:49:54,742 --> 00:49:57,712 Communist spies had tipped them off 750 00:49:57,828 --> 00:49:59,876 that they were soon to be attacked. 751 00:50:00,039 --> 00:50:04,044 And this time they would not flee without a fight. 752 00:50:05,544 --> 00:50:08,263 Among them was Le Quan Cong, 753 00:50:08,380 --> 00:50:12,726 who had been a guerrilla fighter since 1951, when he was 12. 754 00:50:27,233 --> 00:50:32,330 At 6:35 in the morning on January 2, 1963, 755 00:50:32,446 --> 00:50:35,746 ten American helicopters ferried an ARVN company 756 00:50:35,866 --> 00:50:39,211 to a spot just north of Tan Thoi. 757 00:50:42,122 --> 00:50:45,171 They met no resistance. 758 00:50:45,292 --> 00:50:48,842 Meanwhile, two South Vietnamese Civil Guard battalions 759 00:50:48,963 --> 00:50:52,263 approached Ap Bac from the South on foot. 760 00:50:55,261 --> 00:50:58,936 The Viet Cong commander let the Civil Guards get within 100 feet 761 00:50:59,056 --> 00:51:01,525 before giving the order to fire. 762 00:51:04,103 --> 00:51:06,822 Several South Vietnamese soldiers were killed. 763 00:51:10,818 --> 00:51:13,788 Survivors hid behind a dike. 764 00:51:16,782 --> 00:51:18,580 Ten more helicopters, 765 00:51:18,701 --> 00:51:22,376 filled with troops and escorted by five helicopter gunships, 766 00:51:22,496 --> 00:51:23,748 roared in to help. 767 00:51:50,733 --> 00:51:54,988 Viet Cong machine guns hit 14 of the 15 aircraft. 768 00:51:55,154 --> 00:52:00,411 Five would be destroyed, killing and wounding American crewmen. 769 00:52:10,169 --> 00:52:12,513 The enemy concentrated their fire on the ARVN 770 00:52:12,671 --> 00:52:15,641 struggling to get out of the downed helicopters. 771 00:52:15,758 --> 00:52:18,682 "It was like shooting ducks for the Viet Cong," 772 00:52:18,844 --> 00:52:20,721 an American crewman remembered. 773 00:52:23,098 --> 00:52:26,068 Colonel Vann circled helplessly overhead. 774 00:52:26,185 --> 00:52:28,563 He radioed the ARVN commander, 775 00:52:28,687 --> 00:52:32,783 urging him to send an APC unit to rescue the men. 776 00:52:34,151 --> 00:52:36,700 I got the word from John Vann 777 00:52:36,820 --> 00:52:39,573 that American helicopters were down. 778 00:52:39,698 --> 00:52:42,042 They were right in front of the Viet Cong positions. 779 00:52:42,201 --> 00:52:45,546 We had Americans killed and wounded 780 00:52:45,704 --> 00:52:47,706 and we had to get over there right away. 781 00:52:47,873 --> 00:52:51,719 Like Vann, Captain Scanlon was only an advisor. 782 00:52:51,877 --> 00:52:55,256 Captain Ly Tong Ba, his ARVN counterpart, 783 00:52:55,381 --> 00:52:58,055 would have to give the order to advance. 784 00:52:58,217 --> 00:53:01,346 Scanlon liked and admired him. 785 00:53:01,470 --> 00:53:03,893 I turned to Ba and said, 786 00:53:04,014 --> 00:53:06,642 "Hey, you know, you got to get over there right away." 787 00:53:06,767 --> 00:53:11,238 And Ba said to me, "I'm not going." 788 00:53:11,397 --> 00:53:14,651 Bar's superiors within the ARVN, far from the battlefield, 789 00:53:14,775 --> 00:53:17,870 had told him to stay put. 790 00:53:17,986 --> 00:53:21,911 And John Vann, my boss, was, uh, screaming at me over the... 791 00:53:22,032 --> 00:53:25,286 over the radio to get them over there. 792 00:53:25,411 --> 00:53:29,757 It took Scanlon an hour to convince Captain Ba to move. 793 00:53:29,873 --> 00:53:32,251 Another two hours were lost 794 00:53:32,376 --> 00:53:35,346 before the APCs could make their way through the paddies 795 00:53:35,462 --> 00:53:37,635 toward the trapped men. 796 00:53:39,633 --> 00:53:41,886 The firing had died down. 797 00:53:42,010 --> 00:53:43,887 Everything was quiet. 798 00:53:44,012 --> 00:53:46,765 You could see the open expanse of rice fields. 799 00:53:46,890 --> 00:53:50,190 And my reaction was, hey, it was all over. 800 00:53:50,310 --> 00:53:53,484 The first two APCs dropped their ramps. 801 00:53:53,605 --> 00:53:55,949 Infantry squads stepped out, 802 00:53:56,108 --> 00:53:59,032 prepared to spray the tree line with automatic fire 803 00:53:59,153 --> 00:54:00,325 as they advanced. 804 00:54:00,446 --> 00:54:03,074 In the past, that had been enough 805 00:54:03,198 --> 00:54:06,498 to make the Viet Cong scurry away. 806 00:54:06,618 --> 00:54:08,871 This time was different. 807 00:54:12,624 --> 00:54:14,501 Eight of the APCs came under attack. 808 00:54:14,626 --> 00:54:17,971 Within minutes, six of their gunners had been killed, 809 00:54:18,130 --> 00:54:19,302 shot through the head. 810 00:54:20,758 --> 00:54:22,806 And boy, we got raked. 811 00:54:22,968 --> 00:54:24,686 So it was like a pool table. 812 00:54:24,803 --> 00:54:26,146 We were on the green 813 00:54:26,305 --> 00:54:28,478 and they were in the pockets shooting at us. 814 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,359 When Captain Ba managed to convince 815 00:54:31,477 --> 00:54:34,026 a few more APCs to advance, 816 00:54:34,146 --> 00:54:37,116 guerrillas leapt from their foxholes 817 00:54:37,232 --> 00:54:39,234 and hurled hand grenades at them. 818 00:54:44,281 --> 00:54:46,704 None did any real damage, 819 00:54:46,825 --> 00:54:50,375 but the drivers were so demoralized that they halted, 820 00:54:50,496 --> 00:54:55,423 turned around, and withdrew behind the wrecked helicopters. 821 00:54:55,542 --> 00:54:57,465 From his spotter plane, 822 00:54:57,586 --> 00:55:01,636 Vann begged the ARVN to make a simultaneous assault 823 00:55:01,757 --> 00:55:05,102 on the enemy by all the remaining ground forces. 824 00:55:06,261 --> 00:55:09,231 ARVN commanders refused. 825 00:55:11,683 --> 00:55:14,527 That night, the Viet Cong melted away, 826 00:55:14,686 --> 00:55:18,031 carrying most of their dead and wounded with them. 827 00:55:20,192 --> 00:55:24,242 At least 80 South Vietnamese soldiers had been killed. 828 00:55:24,363 --> 00:55:29,745 So had three American advisors, including Captain Ken Good, 829 00:55:29,868 --> 00:55:30,994 a friend of Scanlon's. 830 00:55:34,915 --> 00:55:38,795 We stacked the armored personnel carriers with bodies, 831 00:55:38,919 --> 00:55:40,592 stacked them up on top till they... 832 00:55:40,712 --> 00:55:42,555 we couldn't stack anymore. 833 00:55:42,673 --> 00:55:48,806 And, um, I wouldn't let the Vietnamese touch the Americans. 834 00:55:48,929 --> 00:55:51,682 So I carried Americans out. 835 00:55:51,807 --> 00:55:54,060 And, um... 836 00:55:54,184 --> 00:55:56,357 And I was... I was exhausted. 837 00:55:56,478 --> 00:56:02,235 They told me about Ken Good getting killed. 838 00:56:02,401 --> 00:56:06,622 And Ken and I had worked so hard with our two battalions. 839 00:56:06,738 --> 00:56:12,541 And to hear that... he got killed hurt. 840 00:56:12,661 --> 00:56:14,208 Great guy. 841 00:56:15,664 --> 00:56:17,837 Reporters arrived from Saigon 842 00:56:17,958 --> 00:56:21,883 before all of the ARVN dead could be removed. 843 00:56:22,004 --> 00:56:26,180 They were horrified at what they saw and tried to find out 844 00:56:26,300 --> 00:56:28,928 what had really happened. 845 00:56:29,094 --> 00:56:33,474 John Paul Vann took Neil Sheehan and David Halberstam aside 846 00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:35,522 and told them. 847 00:56:35,642 --> 00:56:37,440 The Battle of Ap Bac had been 848 00:56:37,561 --> 00:56:40,280 "a miserable goddamn performance." 849 00:56:40,397 --> 00:56:42,491 "The ARVN won't listen," he said. 850 00:56:42,608 --> 00:56:45,612 "They make the same mistakes over and over again 851 00:56:45,736 --> 00:56:47,738 in the same way." 852 00:56:49,448 --> 00:56:50,916 But back in Saigon, 853 00:56:51,033 --> 00:56:54,708 General Harkins immediately declared victory. 854 00:56:54,828 --> 00:56:57,798 "The ARVN forces had an objective," he said. 855 00:56:57,956 --> 00:56:59,333 "We took that objective. 856 00:56:59,458 --> 00:57:02,883 "The VC left and their casualties were greater 857 00:57:03,003 --> 00:57:05,552 "than those of the government forces. 858 00:57:05,672 --> 00:57:07,299 What more do you want?" 859 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,144 When Halberstam and Sheehan reported 860 00:57:11,261 --> 00:57:14,060 that Ap Bac had in fact been a defeat, 861 00:57:14,181 --> 00:57:18,231 the U.S. Commander in the Pacific denied it all 862 00:57:18,352 --> 00:57:23,859 and urged the reporters to “get on the team." 863 00:57:23,982 --> 00:57:25,984 Ap Bac was terribly important. 864 00:57:26,151 --> 00:57:28,279 They had shot down five helicopters, 865 00:57:28,403 --> 00:57:30,781 which they previously had been terrified of. 866 00:57:30,906 --> 00:57:34,956 They'd stopped the armored personnel carriers. 867 00:57:35,077 --> 00:57:37,045 They demonstrated to their own people 868 00:57:37,162 --> 00:57:40,211 that you could resist the Americans and win. 869 00:58:00,018 --> 00:58:03,693 In Hanoi, the Battle of Ap Bac was seen 870 00:58:03,855 --> 00:58:08,406 by Party First Secretary Le Duan and his Politburo allies 871 00:58:08,527 --> 00:58:10,700 as evidence of the inherent weakness 872 00:58:10,862 --> 00:58:13,786 of the South Vietnamese regime. 873 00:58:13,907 --> 00:58:17,662 Even when faced with American advisors and weaponry, 874 00:58:17,786 --> 00:58:21,541 the Viet Cong had learned how to inflict heavy casualties 875 00:58:21,665 --> 00:58:25,420 on Saigon's forces, and get away again. 876 00:58:26,962 --> 00:58:30,717 In Saigon, President Diem claimed the ARVN were winning, 877 00:58:30,882 --> 00:58:32,054 not losing. 878 00:58:32,217 --> 00:58:35,437 Ap Bac had only been a momentary setback. 879 00:58:35,554 --> 00:58:37,352 And he resented Americans telling him 880 00:58:37,472 --> 00:58:41,067 how to fight his battles or run his country. 881 00:58:41,184 --> 00:58:46,236 The president's sister-in-law, Madame Nhu, went further. 882 00:58:46,356 --> 00:58:50,736 She denounced the Americans as "false brothers." 883 00:58:52,237 --> 00:58:55,036 "We don't have a prayer of staying in Vietnam," 884 00:58:55,157 --> 00:58:59,207 President Kennedy privately told a friend that spring. 885 00:58:59,327 --> 00:59:01,295 "These people hate us. 886 00:59:01,413 --> 00:59:04,758 "But I can't give up a piece of territory like that 887 00:59:04,875 --> 00:59:09,346 to the communists and then get the people to reelect me." 888 00:59:16,053 --> 00:59:17,655 Buddhist monks and nuns are joined 889 00:59:17,679 --> 00:59:19,056 by thousands of sympathizers 890 00:59:19,181 --> 00:59:20,808 to protest the government's restrictions 891 00:59:20,932 --> 00:59:23,856 on the practice of their religion in South Vietnam. 892 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,070 Diem began by alienating the rural population. 893 00:59:29,191 --> 00:59:31,740 And that started the Viet Cong. 894 00:59:31,860 --> 00:59:34,659 And now he was alienating the urban population. 895 00:59:34,780 --> 00:59:37,283 Seventy percent of the population is Buddhist 896 00:59:37,449 --> 00:59:39,010 and the demonstrators clashed with the police 897 00:59:39,034 --> 00:59:43,164 during the week-long series of incidents like this. 898 00:59:43,288 --> 00:59:46,667 In the months that followed the Battle of Ap Bac, 899 00:59:46,792 --> 00:59:51,468 South Vietnam plunged into civil strife that had little to do 900 00:59:51,588 --> 00:59:54,341 with the Viet Cong. 901 00:59:54,466 --> 00:59:58,471 Religion and nationalism were at its heart. 902 00:59:58,595 --> 01:00:02,316 A Catholic minority had for years dominated the government 903 01:00:02,432 --> 01:00:05,231 of an overwhelmingly Buddhist country. 904 01:00:06,853 --> 01:00:09,231 That spring in the city of Hue, 905 01:00:09,356 --> 01:00:12,280 Christian flags had been flown to celebrate 906 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,449 the 25th anniversary of the ordination 907 01:00:15,570 --> 01:00:18,323 of Diem's older brother as a Catholic bishop. 908 01:00:21,493 --> 01:00:24,838 But when the Buddhists of the city flew their flags 909 01:00:24,955 --> 01:00:30,303 to celebrate the 2,527th birthday of Lord Buddha, 910 01:00:30,418 --> 01:00:33,217 police tore them down. 911 01:00:33,338 --> 01:00:35,966 Protesters took to the streets. 912 01:00:38,093 --> 01:00:41,848 The Catholic deputy province chief sent security forces 913 01:00:42,013 --> 01:00:44,766 to suppress the demonstration. 914 01:00:44,891 --> 01:00:46,518 The soldiers opened fire. 915 01:00:47,644 --> 01:00:50,523 Eight protesters died. 916 01:00:50,689 --> 01:00:56,537 The youngest was 12; the oldest was 20. 917 01:00:56,653 --> 01:01:00,408 The Diem regime blamed the Viet Cong. 918 01:01:02,033 --> 01:01:05,833 Monks throughout the country demanded an apology. 919 01:01:14,713 --> 01:01:16,966 They also called for an end to discrimination 920 01:01:17,090 --> 01:01:19,343 by Catholic officials. 921 01:01:19,467 --> 01:01:22,596 Many Buddhists had come to see Diem's policies 922 01:01:22,721 --> 01:01:25,975 as a direct threat to their religious beliefs. 923 01:01:28,810 --> 01:01:32,405 My family was against what Diem was doing. 924 01:01:32,564 --> 01:01:35,067 My mother was convinced 925 01:01:35,233 --> 01:01:39,158 that Diem was destroying the Buddhist faith. 926 01:01:39,279 --> 01:01:43,409 She would go to the pagodas and listen to the monks' speeches. 927 01:01:43,575 --> 01:01:46,954 And she was just extremely upset. 928 01:01:48,371 --> 01:01:49,543 She was not alone. 929 01:01:49,664 --> 01:01:52,417 There was a lot of people like her. 930 01:01:52,584 --> 01:01:56,464 American officials urged Diem and his brother Nhu 931 01:01:56,588 --> 01:01:59,888 to make meaningful concessions to the Buddhists, 932 01:02:00,008 --> 01:02:01,931 for the sake of maintaining unity 933 01:02:02,093 --> 01:02:04,596 in the struggle against communism. 934 01:02:04,721 --> 01:02:06,314 They refused. 935 01:02:08,892 --> 01:02:13,864 On June 10, 1963, Malcolm Browne of the Associated Press 936 01:02:13,980 --> 01:02:16,779 received an anonymous tip: 937 01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:20,029 something important was going to happen the next day 938 01:02:20,153 --> 01:02:23,532 at a major intersection in Saigon. 939 01:02:23,657 --> 01:02:25,580 He took his camera. 940 01:02:33,124 --> 01:02:36,469 To protest the Diem regime's repression, 941 01:02:36,628 --> 01:02:42,977 a 73-year-old monk named Quang Duc set himself on fire. 942 01:03:00,735 --> 01:03:05,787 As a large, hushed crowd watched him burn to death, 943 01:03:05,907 --> 01:03:09,332 another monk repeated over and over again 944 01:03:09,452 --> 01:03:12,331 in English and Vietnamese, 945 01:03:12,497 --> 01:03:15,341 "A Buddhist monk becomes a martyr. 946 01:03:15,458 --> 01:03:18,052 A Buddhist monk becomes a martyr." 947 01:03:24,926 --> 01:03:27,770 I remember they held the ashes 948 01:03:27,887 --> 01:03:30,356 of the monk who burned himself to death 949 01:03:30,515 --> 01:03:33,485 where it was kept in one of the main pagodas. 950 01:03:33,601 --> 01:03:39,699 And lines of people came to pass by, and I saw these women, 951 01:03:39,816 --> 01:03:42,740 not rich women, ordinary Vietnamese women, 952 01:03:42,861 --> 01:03:45,865 take off the one piece of gold they had on, their wedding ring, 953 01:03:46,031 --> 01:03:50,912 and drop it in the bottle to contribute to the struggle. 954 01:03:51,036 --> 01:03:54,882 And I thought to myself, “This regime is over. 955 01:03:54,998 --> 01:03:56,045 It's the end." 956 01:04:00,170 --> 01:04:02,673 Soon other monks would become martyrs. 957 01:04:05,967 --> 01:04:11,474 Fresh outbursts by Madame Nhu only made things worse. 958 01:04:11,598 --> 01:04:14,977 Burning monks made her clap her hands, she said. 959 01:04:15,101 --> 01:04:17,650 If more monks wanted to burn themselves, 960 01:04:17,771 --> 01:04:20,866 she would provide the matches. 961 01:04:20,982 --> 01:04:22,825 The only thing they have done, 962 01:04:22,942 --> 01:04:28,665 they have barbecued one of their monks, 963 01:04:28,782 --> 01:04:34,289 whom they have intoxicated, whom they have abused the confidence. 964 01:04:34,412 --> 01:04:38,713 And even that barbecuing was done 965 01:04:38,833 --> 01:04:41,052 not even with self-sufficient means 966 01:04:41,169 --> 01:04:44,173 because they-they used imported gasoline. 967 01:04:45,924 --> 01:04:48,598 They thought she was arrogant, 968 01:04:48,718 --> 01:04:50,140 she was power hungry. 969 01:04:50,261 --> 01:04:53,515 They suspected her and her husband of being corrupt. 970 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:59,943 Nhu ran the secret police, which arrested and tortured people. 971 01:05:00,063 --> 01:05:03,158 People feared the Diem regime. 972 01:05:03,274 --> 01:05:06,824 Perhaps more than they feared it, they really hated it. 973 01:05:09,114 --> 01:05:11,742 Students, including many Catholics, 974 01:05:11,866 --> 01:05:14,244 rallied to the Buddhist cause. 975 01:05:14,369 --> 01:05:17,543 So did some army officers. 976 01:05:17,664 --> 01:05:21,919 People among the military had to ask the question, 977 01:05:22,043 --> 01:05:25,297 "Can we continue this kind of situation like that 978 01:05:25,463 --> 01:05:28,808 "when the whole country, country was almost burning 979 01:05:28,967 --> 01:05:30,694 with the kind of protest from the Buddhists?" 980 01:05:30,718 --> 01:05:31,718 You see? 981 01:05:35,306 --> 01:05:39,231 I first became aware of Vietnam because of a burning monk. 982 01:05:41,813 --> 01:05:46,660 We had watched the civil rights movement in the South 983 01:05:46,776 --> 01:05:49,655 and it had set the standard for us 984 01:05:49,779 --> 01:05:56,082 to stand up against injustice, allow yourself to be beaten up, 985 01:05:56,202 --> 01:05:58,500 allow yourself to be attacked by a dog 986 01:05:58,621 --> 01:06:00,840 or hit by a police truncheon. 987 01:06:00,999 --> 01:06:02,842 And we had enormous respect 988 01:06:02,959 --> 01:06:06,054 for people who were willing to go that far. 989 01:06:10,508 --> 01:06:13,387 And then one day in 1963, 990 01:06:13,511 --> 01:06:17,857 we saw on television a picture of a monk in Saigon. 991 01:06:19,350 --> 01:06:21,444 This was an extraordinary act. 992 01:06:23,855 --> 01:06:26,654 Why was a Buddhist monk burning himself 993 01:06:26,774 --> 01:06:29,493 on the streets of Saigon? 994 01:06:32,238 --> 01:06:34,616 The protests continued. 995 01:06:34,741 --> 01:06:39,588 Tensions between Washington and Saigon steadily worsened. 996 01:06:39,704 --> 01:06:43,584 The more the Kennedy Administration demanded change, 997 01:06:43,708 --> 01:06:47,713 the more Diem and his brother Nhu seemed to resist. 998 01:06:49,422 --> 01:06:52,141 The White House announced that a new American ambassador, 999 01:06:52,258 --> 01:06:57,389 former senator Henry Cabot Lodge, was being sent to Saigon, 1000 01:06:57,514 --> 01:06:59,937 a man eminent enough, the president hoped, 1001 01:07:00,058 --> 01:07:05,064 to make Diem listen more closely to American advice. 1002 01:07:05,188 --> 01:07:08,909 Diem professed to be unimpressed. 1003 01:07:09,067 --> 01:07:11,695 "They can send ten Lodges," he said, 1004 01:07:11,819 --> 01:07:15,665 "but I will not let myself or my country be humiliated, 1005 01:07:15,782 --> 01:07:19,537 not if they train their artillery on this palace." 1006 01:07:19,661 --> 01:07:24,212 He did promise the outgoing ambassador, Frederick Nolting, 1007 01:07:24,332 --> 01:07:27,051 that he would take no further repressive steps 1008 01:07:27,168 --> 01:07:28,715 against the Buddhists. 1009 01:07:30,505 --> 01:07:35,727 Then, a few minutes after midnight on August 21, 1963, 1010 01:07:35,843 --> 01:07:39,268 with Nolting gone and Henry Cabot Lodge's arrival 1011 01:07:39,430 --> 01:07:42,934 still one day away, Diem cut the phone lines 1012 01:07:43,059 --> 01:07:46,438 of all the senior American officials in Saigon 1013 01:07:46,604 --> 01:07:50,108 and sent hundreds of his Special Forces 1014 01:07:50,233 --> 01:07:53,988 storming into Buddhist pagodas in Saigon, Hue, 1015 01:07:54,112 --> 01:07:57,286 and several other South Vietnamese cities. 1016 01:07:57,448 --> 01:08:00,167 Some 1,400 monks and nuns, 1017 01:08:00,285 --> 01:08:05,792 students and ordinary citizens were rounded up and taken away. 1018 01:08:13,673 --> 01:08:18,144 Martial law was imposed, public meetings were forbidden, 1019 01:08:18,261 --> 01:08:22,641 troops were authorized to shoot anyone found on the streets 1020 01:08:22,765 --> 01:08:24,358 after 9:00. 1021 01:08:24,475 --> 01:08:27,775 Tanks guard a pagoda in Saigon 1022 01:08:27,895 --> 01:08:30,523 during South Vietnam's bafflingly complicated crisis 1023 01:08:30,648 --> 01:08:33,652 that has the government of President Ngo Dinh Diem, 1024 01:08:33,776 --> 01:08:37,497 students, and Buddhists, and the United States government 1025 01:08:37,614 --> 01:08:41,164 all trying to guess one another's next move. 1026 01:08:41,326 --> 01:08:45,081 When college students protested in support of the monks, 1027 01:08:45,204 --> 01:08:48,799 Diem closed Vietnam's universities. 1028 01:08:48,916 --> 01:08:52,671 High school students then poured into the streets. 1029 01:08:52,837 --> 01:08:55,340 He shut down all the high schools 1030 01:08:55,506 --> 01:08:56,666 and the grammar schools, too, 1031 01:08:56,758 --> 01:08:59,978 and arrested thousands of school children, 1032 01:09:00,094 --> 01:09:02,847 including the sons and daughters of officials 1033 01:09:03,014 --> 01:09:04,937 in his own government. 1034 01:09:05,058 --> 01:09:08,107 I participated in the demonstrations. 1035 01:09:08,227 --> 01:09:15,031 I strongly believed that that government has to be overthrown 1036 01:09:15,151 --> 01:09:17,199 because it's a dictator government. 1037 01:09:17,362 --> 01:09:19,285 We couldn't stand it anymore 1038 01:09:19,405 --> 01:09:23,035 and this is an opportunity to rise against it. 1039 01:09:23,201 --> 01:09:27,172 Phan Quang Tue was a law student that summer. 1040 01:09:27,288 --> 01:09:31,168 His father was a prominent nationalist whom Diem had jailed 1041 01:09:31,292 --> 01:09:34,512 for calling for greater democracy. 1042 01:09:34,629 --> 01:09:38,099 I was and I'm still a Catholic, 1043 01:09:38,216 --> 01:09:40,435 not a very good Catholic. 1044 01:09:40,551 --> 01:09:42,394 I don't practice religiously. 1045 01:09:42,512 --> 01:09:44,389 But I'm a Catholic. 1046 01:09:45,890 --> 01:09:47,312 I was rightly arrested 1047 01:09:47,433 --> 01:09:50,482 because I did participate in demonstration. 1048 01:09:50,603 --> 01:09:53,482 And I was interrogated 1049 01:09:53,606 --> 01:09:56,655 and briefly tortured, beaten a little bit. 1050 01:10:00,029 --> 01:10:02,782 Henry Cabot Lodge took over as U.S. ambassador 1051 01:10:02,907 --> 01:10:04,375 in the midst of the turmoil. 1052 01:10:04,492 --> 01:10:05,886 And he has reported to have demanded 1053 01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:08,083 that President Diem's brother Nhu be ousted 1054 01:10:08,204 --> 01:10:10,548 or U.S. aid to Vietnam will be cut. 1055 01:10:13,876 --> 01:10:15,753 In the wake of the pagoda raids, 1056 01:10:15,878 --> 01:10:18,222 a small group of South Vietnamese generals 1057 01:10:18,339 --> 01:10:21,889 contacted the CIA in Saigon. 1058 01:10:22,009 --> 01:10:25,434 Diem's brother Nhu was now largely in control 1059 01:10:25,555 --> 01:10:27,478 of the government, they said. 1060 01:10:27,598 --> 01:10:32,274 What would Washington's reaction be if they mounted a coup? 1061 01:10:32,395 --> 01:10:35,365 President Kennedy and his senior advisors 1062 01:10:35,481 --> 01:10:40,282 happened to be out of town, so Roger Hilsman, Jr., 1063 01:10:40,403 --> 01:10:43,828 assistant secretary of state for Far Eastern affairs 1064 01:10:43,948 --> 01:10:46,292 and a critic of the Diem regime, 1065 01:10:46,451 --> 01:10:50,456 took it upon himself to draft a cable with new instructions 1066 01:10:50,580 --> 01:10:53,379 for Ambassador Lodge. 1067 01:10:53,499 --> 01:10:57,345 The U.S. government could no longer tolerate a situation 1068 01:10:57,462 --> 01:11:01,558 in which power lay in Nhu's hands, it said. 1069 01:11:01,674 --> 01:11:04,894 Diem should be given a chance to rid himself of his brother. 1070 01:11:06,387 --> 01:11:09,891 If he refused, Lodge was to tell the generals, 1071 01:11:10,016 --> 01:11:13,441 "then we must face the possibility that Diem himself 1072 01:11:13,561 --> 01:11:17,316 cannot be preserved." 1073 01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:21,035 The president was vacationing at Hyannis Port, Massachusetts. 1074 01:11:21,152 --> 01:11:24,998 Undersecretary of State George Ball read part of the cable 1075 01:11:25,156 --> 01:11:28,160 to him over the phone. 1076 01:11:28,326 --> 01:11:30,454 Since the early 1950s, 1077 01:11:30,578 --> 01:11:32,222 the United States government had encouraged 1078 01:11:32,246 --> 01:11:38,504 and even orchestrated other Cold War coups in Iran, Guatemala, 1079 01:11:38,628 --> 01:11:43,008 the Congo, and elsewhere. 1080 01:11:43,132 --> 01:11:47,012 Kennedy decided to approve Hilsman's cable 1081 01:11:47,136 --> 01:11:50,231 in part because he thought his top advisors 1082 01:11:50,348 --> 01:11:52,350 had already endorsed it. 1083 01:11:52,517 --> 01:11:55,270 They had not. 1084 01:11:55,394 --> 01:12:00,491 And somehow, because of a cable that came out from Washington, 1085 01:12:00,608 --> 01:12:03,828 Lodge decided that the only solution was to get rid 1086 01:12:03,945 --> 01:12:07,620 of not just Ngo Dinh Nhu, the bad brother, 1087 01:12:07,740 --> 01:12:10,209 but also of Diem himself. 1088 01:12:10,326 --> 01:12:12,374 And that started us on this whole business 1089 01:12:12,495 --> 01:12:15,169 of promoting a coup. 1090 01:12:15,289 --> 01:12:18,634 And it was not a good idea. 1091 01:12:18,751 --> 01:12:21,504 I just had a feeling of impending disaster. 1092 01:12:22,713 --> 01:12:25,307 On September 2, 1963, 1093 01:12:25,424 --> 01:12:29,054 Labor Day, Walter Cronkite of CBS News 1094 01:12:29,178 --> 01:12:31,647 interviewed President Kennedy. 1095 01:12:31,764 --> 01:12:35,735 The president used the opportunity to deliver a message 1096 01:12:35,893 --> 01:12:37,611 to President Diem. 1097 01:12:37,728 --> 01:12:41,449 Mr. President, the only hot war we've got running at the moment 1098 01:12:41,566 --> 01:12:44,069 is of course the one in Vietnam, 1099 01:12:44,193 --> 01:12:47,072 and we've got our difficulties there, quite obviously. 1100 01:12:47,196 --> 01:12:51,667 I don't think that unless a greater effort is made 1101 01:12:51,784 --> 01:12:53,627 by the government to win popular support 1102 01:12:53,744 --> 01:12:55,087 that the war can be won out there. 1103 01:12:55,246 --> 01:12:57,089 In the final analysis, it's their war. 1104 01:12:57,206 --> 01:13:00,961 Hasn't every indication from Saigon been 1105 01:13:01,085 --> 01:13:03,087 that President Diem has no intention 1106 01:13:03,254 --> 01:13:04,096 of changing his pattern? 1107 01:13:04,255 --> 01:13:05,097 If he doesn't change it, 1108 01:13:05,256 --> 01:13:07,054 of course, that's his decision. 1109 01:13:07,174 --> 01:13:09,142 He has been there ten years and, as I say, 1110 01:13:09,260 --> 01:13:10,512 he has carried this burden 1111 01:13:10,636 --> 01:13:12,072 when he has been counted out on a number of occasions. 1112 01:13:12,096 --> 01:13:13,096 Our best judgment is 1113 01:13:13,180 --> 01:13:15,603 that he can't be successful in this basis. 1114 01:13:15,725 --> 01:13:18,274 But I don't agree with those who say we should withdraw. 1115 01:13:18,436 --> 01:13:19,636 That would be a great mistake. 1116 01:13:19,687 --> 01:13:20,939 That'd be a great mistake. 1117 01:13:21,063 --> 01:13:22,943 I know people don't like Americans to be engaged 1118 01:13:23,024 --> 01:13:24,064 in this kind of an effort. 1119 01:13:24,108 --> 01:13:26,452 47 Americans have been killed. 1120 01:13:26,611 --> 01:13:28,454 We're in a very 1121 01:13:28,613 --> 01:13:31,332 desperate struggle against the communist system. 1122 01:13:31,449 --> 01:13:34,669 And I don't want Asia to pass into the control of the Chinese. 1123 01:13:34,785 --> 01:13:36,913 Do you think that this government still has time 1124 01:13:37,038 --> 01:13:39,461 to-to regain the support of the people? 1125 01:13:39,582 --> 01:13:41,960 I do. 1126 01:13:42,126 --> 01:13:44,800 With changes in policy and perhaps in personnel, 1127 01:13:44,921 --> 01:13:46,389 I think it can. 1128 01:13:46,505 --> 01:13:49,759 If it doesn't make those changes, 1129 01:13:49,884 --> 01:13:52,103 I would think that the chances of winning it 1130 01:13:52,219 --> 01:13:53,846 would not be very good. 1131 01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,393 Despite the cable, Kennedy and his advisors 1132 01:13:58,517 --> 01:14:01,771 were sharply divided about a coup. 1133 01:14:01,896 --> 01:14:07,153 Robert McNamara, Maxwell Taylor, Vice President Lyndon Johnson, 1134 01:14:07,276 --> 01:14:11,577 and the head of the CIA all cautioned against it, 1135 01:14:11,697 --> 01:14:14,997 because, while none of them especially admired Diem, 1136 01:14:15,159 --> 01:14:19,665 they did not believe there was any viable alternative. 1137 01:14:19,830 --> 01:14:22,754 Fritz Nolting was called in. 1138 01:14:22,875 --> 01:14:25,344 And he said, "As difficult as they are to deal with, 1139 01:14:25,461 --> 01:14:30,342 "there is nobody with the guts and sangfroid in Vietnam 1140 01:14:30,508 --> 01:14:32,181 "of Diem and his brother Nhu. 1141 01:14:32,301 --> 01:14:35,646 "And if we let them go we will be saddled 1142 01:14:35,763 --> 01:14:39,609 by a descending cycle of mediocre generals." 1143 01:14:39,725 --> 01:14:41,693 And he was absolutely correct. 1144 01:14:43,354 --> 01:14:46,198 But several State Department officials believed 1145 01:14:46,315 --> 01:14:51,071 that without fresh leadership, South Vietnam could not survive. 1146 01:14:51,195 --> 01:14:54,449 The debate intensified. 1147 01:14:55,658 --> 01:14:57,535 "My God," the president said, 1148 01:14:57,660 --> 01:15:00,880 "my administration is coming apart." 1149 01:15:01,038 --> 01:15:04,338 In the end, Kennedy instructed Lodge 1150 01:15:04,458 --> 01:15:06,711 to tell the renegade generals 1151 01:15:06,877 --> 01:15:09,130 that while the United States does not wish 1152 01:15:09,255 --> 01:15:13,226 to stimulate a coup, it would not thwart one either. 1153 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,764 The generals laid their plans. 1154 01:15:24,145 --> 01:15:29,743 On November 1, 1963, troops loyal to the plotters 1155 01:15:29,859 --> 01:15:31,953 seized key installations in Saigon 1156 01:15:32,069 --> 01:15:35,539 and demanded Diem and Nhu surrender. 1157 01:15:38,075 --> 01:15:40,498 The battle For the city went on for 18 hour's 1158 01:15:40,619 --> 01:15:43,839 and most of it was centered on the presidential palace. 1159 01:15:43,956 --> 01:15:47,460 Just after 6:30 in the morning Saturday, the shooting ceased. 1160 01:15:56,427 --> 01:16:01,649 Diem and Nhu escaped, took sanctuary in a church, 1161 01:16:01,766 --> 01:16:04,770 and agreed to surrender to the rebels in exchange 1162 01:16:04,894 --> 01:16:08,615 for the promise of safe passage out of the country. 1163 01:16:08,731 --> 01:16:12,156 They were picked up in an armored personnel carrier... 1164 01:16:14,236 --> 01:16:18,286 And murdered soon after they climbed inside. 1165 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,465 Madame Nhu survived the coup. 1166 01:16:26,624 --> 01:16:29,844 She was on a goodwill tour in the United States. 1167 01:16:35,132 --> 01:16:37,635 The system was overthrown on November 1. 1168 01:16:37,802 --> 01:16:40,351 I was released November 4. 1169 01:16:40,471 --> 01:16:46,649 And it was the most exciting moment in the life of Saigon. 1170 01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:53,736 The excitement, you could feel it in the air. 1171 01:16:53,859 --> 01:16:58,285 I was thinking that, yeah, it's a good thing. 1172 01:16:58,405 --> 01:17:01,955 Diem was making it impossible to win the war 1173 01:17:02,076 --> 01:17:05,501 because people were so against him 1174 01:17:05,663 --> 01:17:10,134 that the war would be lost if he stayed in power. 1175 01:17:11,836 --> 01:17:13,838 My father was a bit worried 1176 01:17:14,004 --> 01:17:16,084 because he didn't know who was going to replace Diem. 1177 01:17:18,843 --> 01:17:21,346 Ambassador Lodge reported to Washington 1178 01:17:21,470 --> 01:17:25,976 that "every Vietnamese has a smile on his face today." 1179 01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:29,695 "The prospects are now for a shorter war," he said, 1180 01:17:29,812 --> 01:17:32,656 "provided the generals stay together. 1181 01:17:32,773 --> 01:17:35,492 "Certainly officers and soldiers 1182 01:17:35,609 --> 01:17:38,704 who can pull off an operation like this," he continued, 1183 01:17:38,821 --> 01:17:42,121 “should be able to do very well on the battlefield 1184 01:17:42,241 --> 01:17:44,710 if their hearts are in it." 1185 01:17:47,580 --> 01:17:50,709 President Kennedy was not so sure. 1186 01:17:50,833 --> 01:17:55,054 He was appalled that Diem and Nhu had been killed. 1187 01:17:55,171 --> 01:17:58,721 Three days later, he dictated his own rueful account 1188 01:17:58,883 --> 01:18:02,888 of the coup and his concerns for the future. 1189 01:18:04,555 --> 01:18:08,310 Monday, November 4, 1963. 1190 01:18:08,434 --> 01:18:11,358 Over the weekend the coup in Saigon took place. 1191 01:18:11,478 --> 01:18:14,231 It culminated three months of conversation, 1192 01:18:14,356 --> 01:18:19,533 which divided the government here and in Saigon. 1193 01:18:19,653 --> 01:18:24,750 I feel that we must bear a good deal of responsibility for it, 1194 01:18:24,867 --> 01:18:27,746 beginning with our cable of August 1195 01:18:27,912 --> 01:18:30,461 in which we suggested the coup. 1196 01:18:30,581 --> 01:18:33,380 I should not have given my consent to it 1197 01:18:33,500 --> 01:18:35,753 without a roundtable conference. 1198 01:18:37,796 --> 01:18:43,144 I was shocked by the death of Diem and Nhu. 1199 01:18:43,260 --> 01:18:47,356 The way he was killed made it particularly abhorrent. 1200 01:18:47,473 --> 01:18:49,976 The question now is whether the generals can stay together 1201 01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:53,900 and build a stable government or whether public opinion in Saigon 1202 01:18:54,021 --> 01:18:57,651 will turn on this government as repressive and undemocratic 1203 01:18:57,775 --> 01:18:59,698 in the not-too-distant future. 1204 01:19:04,698 --> 01:19:06,951 Kennedy would not live to see the answer 1205 01:19:07,117 --> 01:19:09,586 to the question he had asked. 1206 01:19:09,703 --> 01:19:14,083 He was murdered in Dallas 18 days later. 1207 01:19:14,208 --> 01:19:19,089 There were now 16,000 American advisors in South Vietnam. 1208 01:19:19,213 --> 01:19:24,561 Their fate and the fate of that embattled country rested 1209 01:19:24,677 --> 01:19:29,808 with another American president, Lyndon Baines Johnson. 1210 01:19:47,366 --> 01:19:49,494 We thought we were the exceptions to history, 1211 01:19:49,618 --> 01:19:51,040 we Americans. 1212 01:19:51,161 --> 01:19:53,789 History didn't apply to us. 1213 01:19:53,914 --> 01:19:56,008 We could never fight a bad war. 1214 01:19:56,166 --> 01:19:58,009 We could never represent the wrong cause. 1215 01:19:58,168 --> 01:19:59,260 We were Americans. 1216 01:20:00,504 --> 01:20:01,676 Well, in Vietnam it proved 1217 01:20:01,839 --> 01:20:04,308 that we were not an exception to history. 1218 01:20:23,485 --> 01:20:31,485 # This is a mean old world to live in all by yourself # 1219 01:20:37,041 --> 01:20:43,219 # This is a mean old world to live in # 1220 01:20:43,380 --> 01:20:46,054 # All by yourself # 1221 01:20:49,970 --> 01:20:56,979 # This is a mean world to be alone # 1222 01:20:57,102 --> 01:21:02,950 # Without someone to call your own # 1223 01:21:03,067 --> 01:21:09,074 # This is a mean old world to try and live in # 1224 01:21:09,239 --> 01:21:11,662 # All by yourself # 1225 01:21:15,871 --> 01:21:21,924 # I wish I had someone, someone # 1226 01:21:22,086 --> 01:21:24,259 # Who'd love me true # 1227 01:21:28,759 --> 01:21:33,759 # I wish I had someone who loved me true # 1228 01:21:41,605 --> 01:21:48,033 # If I had someone who loved me true # 1229 01:21:48,153 --> 01:21:54,627 # Then I know I wouldn't be so blue # 1230 01:21:54,785 --> 01:22:01,259 # This is a mean old world to try and live in # 1231 01:22:01,375 --> 01:22:03,844 # All by yourself # 1232 01:22:06,130 --> 01:22:14,130 # Lord, I find myself dreaming # 1233 01:22:14,388 --> 01:22:16,607 # I found a love # 1234 01:22:20,018 --> 01:22:27,277 # Sometimes I find myself dreaming # 1235 01:22:27,401 --> 01:22:30,655 # I found a love # 1236 01:22:33,115 --> 01:22:41,000 # Sometimes I dream I've really found a love # 1237 01:22:41,123 --> 01:22:47,130 # Someone who loved me true as the stars above # 1238 01:22:47,254 --> 01:22:52,681 # For this is a mean old world to try and live in # 1239 01:22:52,843 --> 01:22:57,019 # All by yourself. # 100725

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