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My foundation,
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the Richard Dawkins Foundation
for Reason & Science,
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is actually trying
to raise consciousness
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that there are many,
many more people
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who are not religious in America
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than many people realize,
including politicians realize.
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So you'll see politicians
on television
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in their so-called debates
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sucking up
to the religious lobby
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and forgetting
that the non-religious lobby
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is at least 20% in America,
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which is as large
as any particular religion,
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and yet it gets ignored
because it's not vocal enough.
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And so we have, my foundation,
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the Richard Dawkins Foundation
for Reason & Science,
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has a campaign
called Openly Secular,
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which is an attempt
to raise consciousness
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of the fact
that there are lots and lots
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of non-religious people
in America,
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far more
than politicians realize
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and far more
than each other realizes.
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In an interview
recently, you said,
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quote, "I don't think
I'd call myself combative.
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I think I'd call myself
a lover of truth."
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And I'm wondering,
what is your truth?
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When I appear to be combative
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and strident and shrill,
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which I'm often accused of,
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the reason is that
I'm stating simple facts,
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and sometimes simple facts
are disagreeable to people.
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For example, a few years ago...
About 20 years ago, actually...
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In The New York Times,
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I wrote, "Anybody who claims
to be a young Earth creationist
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is either stupid,
ignorant, or insane."
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Now, that is a simple
statement of fact.
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That's not
a polemical statement.
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But you said, which I like...
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But it sounds...
It sounds polemical
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because we've all got
so used to thinking
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that you just don't say things
like that about, about religion.
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And I must add
at that point, of course,
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that sensible religious people
have no problem with evolution.
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It's just, it's just the
fundamentalists, and for them,
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the problem is usually not
actually insanity or stupidity,
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it's usually actually ignorance.
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And ignorance is no crime.
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We're all ignorant
of all kinds of things.
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So there's no crime
to be ignorant
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of evolution,
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but you just shouldn't be quite
so loud-mouthed about it.
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You also said this thing,
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which I want to sort of go into,
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which is, "Science
is the poetry of reality."
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Which is a beautiful way
of putting it,
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and I'm wondering if you could
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just talk about that further.
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I mean, just, you write
in a very poetic way.
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You're influenced by music.
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You're a lover of literature
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and then also,
just as a science.
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I mean, there are so many things
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feeding into that idea, I guess.
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I suppose I would take
the ideal role model for this,
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somebody like Carl Sagan,
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or his modern-day successor,
Neil deGrasse Tyson,
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or Carolyn Porco,
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who see, look out at the cosmos,
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look out at the universe,
as poets.
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And why not?
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I mean, who could not
be moved poetically
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by the sheer size
and scale of the universe,
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the sheer number of stars?
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The same thing happens
in biology, in my own field,
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when you think
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about the prodigious,
stupefying complexity
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of a single living cell,
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let alone a body consisting
of trillions of cells,
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when you think
that we now understand
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where all that complexity
came from.
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We now understand that it came
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from gradual process,
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incremental natural selection,
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lasting over hundreds
of millions of years,
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culminating
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in creatures like us,
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with brains big enough
to understand the whole process.
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And we in the 21st century
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are privileged
to live after Darwin,
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after Newton, after Einstein.
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And therefore we are privileged
to get that into our heads
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in a way
that our ancestors couldn't.
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Who could not be moved
poetically by that?
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Good morning,
thanks for calling Ask NYPL.
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How can I help?
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Oh, the Gutenberg Bible
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is temporarily unavailable
for viewing.
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I see you've got one book
on hold
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called Working with Bereavement.
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I believe that the issue
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is that you are very close
to the limit of 50.
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Yes.
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We still do have old books
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showing coats of arms
from Europe
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and things like that.
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So let me go
through the list again.
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You have Is There All...
Is That All There Is?,
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Washington, DC,
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Plants of Power, The Meaning of Life,
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The Marriage Benefit,
Between Panic and Desire...
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Okay, it's about the geography
and geology of New York City
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back in the earliest, before...
Before the Dutch arrival,
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okay, in the early 17th century.
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So you can return your books
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to any branch of Manhattan,
the Bronx, or Staten Island.
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You cannot... you can't
return your material
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to Brooklyn or Queens.
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A unicorn is actually
an imaginary animal, okay?
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He's not, it's not a creature
that ever existed.
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No, I don't speak Spanish.
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You need someone
who speaks Spanish?
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Hold on.
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The first appearance
I have of it
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is in the year 1225, okay?
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And it's got the opinion
of one ancient monk that...
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I'll sort of have
to translate this
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from Middle English,
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which I'm a little poor in.
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But he's sort of saying that man
is a wolf on the outside,
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but inside himself,
he's a unicorn.
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And they spell it with an E.
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What you have is a question
that you want to answer.
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You want to basically find
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the place of origin
for Hermann Herzog.
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What town, because...
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Where did he come from
in Austria?
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Right, because I've connected
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in the Jewish genealogy group,
JewishGen,
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with the person
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who does all the
Jewish Herzogs in Austria.
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Sure, uh-huh.
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She just needed a town.
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She just needed a town, okay.
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So she's, she's...
Because she's a Herzog,
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she has actually found
all of the Herzogs.
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That's her specialty.
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Mmm, oh, okay... oh.
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So I was, like, I just...
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So you just needed a little...
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to narrow it down to which one.
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What I'm going to say
we should do
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is take a look
at the 1910 census...
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Okay.
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And get that information
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about immigration
and naturalization.
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What I would do next is,
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is do a complete document sweep
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and get everything you can find
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that might give you clues
as to where, when he came in.
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If you can find those
naturalization papers,
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if he's accurately remembered
and described
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when he immigrated...
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Mm-hmm.
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You might be able to then
go back to Ancestry
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or Ellis Island...
the same lists...
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Right.
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And then browse by the ship.
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Check the dates
of the ships coming in
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and see if you can
find him in there.
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Would I have to go through
a whole year's worth of ships?
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No, because hopefully
he's remembered
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the correct date
when he came in.
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This is the right year,
because you know, the census,
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they just ask whoever
answers the door.
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But I'm, I'm hoping
in the naturalization record,
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he may have correctly remembered
the date he came in...
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And the town...
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The day and, you know,
the day and month.
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Okay.
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And I mean, there's probably...
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In the naturalization papers,
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the place of origin
might be in there, as well.
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So it's...
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I can't see naturalization
papers online, though, right?
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Ancestry has some.
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We have a database called Fold3.
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Oh, right.
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I'm going to put you
on Fold3 next...
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Okay.
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And see if you
can pull something up.
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It was Andrew Carnegie
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who invented
for this institution,
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and I think, more broadly,
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the idea
of public-private partnership.
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Indeed, this institution,
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despite the word "public"
in its title,
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is the quintessential
public-private partnership.
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Literally half the funding
of the New York Public Library
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comes from the public,
particularly the city,
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and half comes
from private sources,
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including people in this room.
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And it's private philanthropy
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that launched the pilots
that we then assess,
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again, using private sources,
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and look, and look
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for other private associations
to partner with.
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And what's been
fascinating to watch
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is the way in which those
private investments...
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Hi, Alberta...
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Those private investments
have now inspired the city,
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as public funder,
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to provide the largest single
increase in city funding
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to the public libraries
in history.
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So, and, and one of the things
that you're going to see is,
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now with the city back in
in full strength,
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or close enough,
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that will also inspire
more private philanthropy
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to keep that cycle going.
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That's one example.
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A second example is on the issue
of internet connectivity.
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Three million New Yorkers
are not connected at home.
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They are in the digital dark.
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We could have
all the content in the world,
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but if you don't have connection
to it, it does you no good.
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And this is how people
are learning and engaging
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in the 21st century.
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So again, we went,
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we found private philanthropy.
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We started a 10,000-household
lend of internet
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into people's homes,
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and that has in turn inspired
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the White House and the FCC
to consider
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moving billions
of federal dollars
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through the FCC to get
at the digital divide problems
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which keep
60 to 70 million Americans
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in the digital dark.
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So, again, an example of the way
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in which private philanthropy
can move public investment.
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Lastly, last example.
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I've already said
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you could have all the content
in the world,
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but if you don't
have connectivity,
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it does you not much good.
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We do not yet
have all the content,
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all the quality content
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that this institution
represents.
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We do not yet
have it all available.
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The vast majority of the books,
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archives, images
in this building
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and throughout our system,
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and indeed
throughout all libraries,
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is not available online.
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That is the Holy Grail
of the 21st century.
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It's what this technology
wants to make possible.
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It means we have
to digitize our collections.
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It means we have to make deals
with publishers and authors
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to pay fair compensation
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for use of
copyrighted materials.
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It means we need
to create a platform
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that would enable people
in New York,
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in the United States,
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or, thinking about
Paul Farmer's great work,
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anywhere in the world
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to be able to get access
to this content.
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Private philanthropy
will make that possible.
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When we're talking
about philanthropy
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in the 21st century,
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at this moment in history,
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inequality is the elephant
in the room.
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I believe that education,
the access to information,
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is the fundamental solution
over time
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to inequality.
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And I think its power
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cannot be underestimated.
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Okay, let me see
how yours turned out.
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I think mine...
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Oh, it worked, look.
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Now let's add
some color in there.
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So what are you going
to write in yours?
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I hardly ever write in mine.
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What are you supposed
to write in this?
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This one says 70 divided by one.
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What do you get?
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70.
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Good.
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So press "okay."
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Want to read about the monkeys?
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Okay, let me see
how yours turned out.
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I think mine...
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Oh, it worked, look.
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Okay, let's add
some stuff in there.
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Eight?
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You stopped at 39, right?
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How many... so this is 39,
how many fingers are here?
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Five.
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Mm-hmm.
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Five?
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Let's see.
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Oh!
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How's it going, Ravi?
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You like the book? Yeah.
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Awesome. When you're
done with that book,
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we've got to do
an activity, okay?
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This is... you know,
this is every day
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I give you the paper
with the activity, right?
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You mean like that?
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Yes, like that.
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Take your time, finish reading.
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The most famous
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crime-fighting dog
in the country.
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Country. Good job.
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How did he fight the crime?
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What made the burglars pass out?
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The breath. Good.
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So you can put that
they fought in the war.
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So you can write about that.
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Thank you.
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But I don't have enough space.
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You're going to have
space, don't worry.
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And you can always just turn
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and write on this side, right?
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So just start.
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Write that sentence
that you just told me.
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F-I-...
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No, no, F-R-I-E-N-D.
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D-S, not D-E-S.
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So you need to erase that
and write that over, please.
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Ted got a red rock
at the pet store.
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What do you get
at the pet store?
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What is a pet store for?
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A fish.
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Okay, so that makes
better sense, right?
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One, two, three, four, no?
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This one.
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Are you guessing?
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Yes.
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Should we be guessing? No.
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And one of the things
I really found fascinating
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about your book is the way
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that you delineate
a kind of attention
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between princes and clerics.
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Ah, right.
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Right? And there's a kind of a,
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a sense that some
of the... friction
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between political leaders
who are slightly more secular
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or secularly oriented
towards the accumulation
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of material power,
wealth, military power,
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and the way that that ends up
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being in conflict
with religious leaders
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in the region.
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These are two groups
of people that,
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for the most part,
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by the middle
of the 18th century,
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cannot stand one another.
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Okay?
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Ruling political authorities
and clerical elites
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are at odds with one another,
and this is in part
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because at the end
of the 17th century,
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there was a
revolutionary movement
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directed by clerics
that sought to end
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the Atlantic slave trade
at that point in time.
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And when the...
the ruling hereditary kings
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were able to successfully
make common cause
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with the French slave traders
in the region,
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and expel those clerics
that wanted
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to end the slave trade,
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those kings, they visited
a painful retribution
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upon all of the clerics
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that had been involved
in the uprising.
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And they violated
centuries-old taboos
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about not enslaving holy people.
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So they had, you know,
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people that were
Koran memorizers,
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religious scholars, and they,
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they rounded these people up
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and they sold them off
into slavery,
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and you've got accounts
that come, you know,
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from French slave traders
like Jean Barbot in 1681
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where he says, "I think
there was somebody like this
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on one of the ships
that I filled in Gorée."
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He said, "This black priest
was aboard, was aboard my boat
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"for two months
before he spoke a word,
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"so deep was his sorrow.
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I sold him in
the American islands."
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So the... the clerics weren't
used to this sort of treatment.
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Kings violated, you know,
traditional protocols
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by enslaving clerics en masse,
and so this leads
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to really heightened tension
in the 18th century,
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but it also leads to a situation
in the 18th century
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where the clerics
are politically weak.
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And it's part of the reason
why the slave trade
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becomes so extensive from the region.
Right.
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And there's all kinds
of critiques that come
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from the clerical class
now about this,
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essentially that their rulers
in this society
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who are people that call
themselves Muslims,
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they don't identify
with any other religion,
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but they're trading
their own citizens, Muslims,
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for rum, and guns,
and nice cloth.
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And that's the kind of thing
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that is going to lead
to a really powerful
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and bitter critique
on the part of the clerics.
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This is a notion
which is very pervasive
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in a lot of the scholarship,
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that slavery and Islam
somehow go together.
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Yeah.
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Either that there is a,
there is something
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in the faith that licenses it,
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that with the spread of Islam
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goes the spread of slavery.
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There's your local story,
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but I also get the sense
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that you're telling
a much bigger story
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about how we think about Islam,
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how we think about slavery,
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and what their relationship
is to each other.
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So, the short answer
is that we were told a lie
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by late 19th- and early
20th-century orientalists
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who suggested that...
that slavery and Islam
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were coterminous,
and this was part
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of a very motivated attempt
both to denigrate
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African societies
and Muslim societies.
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And, and to monopolize
claims on freedom
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and emancipatory thought within a Western
post-enlightenment tradition.
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So that Islam
and African society
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become coterminous
with slavery and despotism,
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and the white people
are to be given credit
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for everything that
was ever liberatory
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or emancipatory
in human thought.
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And so the way
in which we approached
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the question of the relationship
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between slavery and Islam
was not historical.
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It was polemical,
and people refer
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to particular canonical text,
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not the Koran itself,
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almost never the Koran itself,
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but to later legal text
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to paint a portrait
of an Islamic law
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that was accepting of slavery.
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Whereas once you start
to scratch the surface
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of the actual legal opinions,
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you realize that nobody
agreed about anything,
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and there were people
that never accepted the idea
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that any enslavement
could happen
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beyond the time
of the original wars
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that the prophet
himself directed.
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And that he himself
had freed any person
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that he had ever owned
during his life
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before he died,
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and that there
was a very powerful
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thread of antislavery thought
within Islam that was being
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systematically downplayed.
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So what I was doing is trying
to tell a historical story
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that gave expression
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to some of that
intellectual ambivalence
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about slavery
within Muslim societies
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and to see that people
actually found resources
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to think against slavery
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within conventional
Islamic thought.
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This revolution in
the Senegal River Valley
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was framed by a series
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of conspicuous incidences
of enslavement
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of prominent clerics
that increasingly
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radicalized the society.
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Clerics traditionally
in this region were people
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who never held political power,
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they were generally
forbidden to bear arms
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and they did so anyway.
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They taught themselves to do it,
because they said,
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"If these are the kings that
we've got, then no more kings."
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They not only tried
to abolish the...
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first the slave trade,
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then the institution
of slavery itself,
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but they also abolished monarchy
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and introduced a kind of form
of clerical republicanism,
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and that's where the first
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Atlantic revolution idea
comes in,
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is that this is not
just a revolution
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that is about defining
the bounds of liberty
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in the same way that
the American revolution
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or the Haitian revolution
or the French revolution
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is trying to define
what liberty is.
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Even if we end up
selling out pretty hard
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on the whole slavery thing,
in this particular country.
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But it's also one that,
that is seeking
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to put an end to monarchy.
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This is an Atlantic revolution
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because some of its agents
and lieutenants
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get exported as slaves,
and they end up
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spreading word
of this revolution
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in slave barracks.
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But it's particularly
regrettable
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insofar as this story
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demonstrates that some
of the genealogies
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of the values of liberty
and emancipatory thought
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that we hold dear,
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were articulated
not just by the, the ancestors
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- of the European
population in this country,
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But by the ancestors of
the African population as well.
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And that they were
articulated in terms
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that were thought through
with respect
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to the Koran
rather than the Bible.
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They were thought through
with respect
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to the Atlantic experience
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of being the victim
of the slave trade,
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rather than
the Atlantic experience
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of being the progenitors
of the slave trade.
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When groups come
to power that are opposed
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to the Atlantic slave trade,
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the Europeans, while they
might not be able to go in
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and force of the slave trade,
they're perfectly
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capable of arming and providing
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logistical support
and providing gunboats
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and soldiers to parties
who are interested
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in continuing the trade.
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And that's what they do.
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Clarkson refers to this
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in his letters
on the slave trade.
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He said the policy
of Europeans in Africa
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is to... is to make,
is to subvert
520
00:24:38,133 --> 00:24:39,966
the just principles
of government
521
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,866
and turn kings into wolves
522
00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:44,700
instead of shepherds
amongst their people.
523
00:24:44,733 --> 00:24:46,166
And so the...
if you want to just
524
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,700
think about it in a word,
the European policy
525
00:24:48,733 --> 00:24:52,800
in Africa is "feed the wolves,
starve the shepherds."
526
00:25:14,566 --> 00:25:16,200
This is a really
special library.
527
00:25:16,233 --> 00:25:17,500
This library is
528
00:25:17,533 --> 00:25:19,400
part of Lincoln Center.
529
00:25:19,433 --> 00:25:20,933
So, we share its mission
530
00:25:20,966 --> 00:25:24,100
of presenting
artistic excellence
531
00:25:24,133 --> 00:25:26,100
of the highest caliber.
532
00:25:26,133 --> 00:25:28,566
We're also part of
the New York Public Library,
533
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,000
so we share
the library's mission
534
00:25:31,033 --> 00:25:34,533
of being a warm, welcoming place
535
00:25:34,566 --> 00:25:37,800
that's committed to education
and committed to nurturing
536
00:25:37,833 --> 00:25:40,933
everyone's individual passions
and curiosity.
537
00:25:40,966 --> 00:25:42,400
And we like to think that
538
00:25:42,433 --> 00:25:44,700
we're a great marriage
of those two missions,
539
00:25:44,733 --> 00:25:46,333
the mission of Lincoln Center
540
00:25:46,366 --> 00:25:48,766
and the mission
of the New York Public Library.
541
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,066
And this recital tonight
542
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:53,733
really represents that well,
in my opinion.
543
00:25:53,766 --> 00:25:56,100
We have some wonderful
pieces of music,
544
00:25:56,133 --> 00:25:59,766
especially terrific work
545
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,033
by the amazing composer
Ned Rorem.
546
00:26:03,066 --> 00:26:06,100
Carolyn is an incredible
pianist, a great artist.
547
00:26:06,133 --> 00:26:08,733
She's performed in many of
the...
548
00:26:08,766 --> 00:26:10,266
our city's great
performance halls,
549
00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:13,033
and she's also, I think,
a wonderful embodiment
550
00:26:13,066 --> 00:26:16,400
of that welcoming,
generous spirit
551
00:26:16,433 --> 00:26:18,666
that the Library tries
to embody as well.
552
00:32:50,433 --> 00:32:52,433
We are here today
so we can offer jobs
553
00:32:52,466 --> 00:32:57,200
to 17 to 35
qualified individuals.
554
00:32:57,233 --> 00:32:59,266
Um, you know, basically,
you all know what we do.
555
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:00,966
We do defend the country.
556
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,366
I'm here for active Army
and Army Reserve, 17 to 35.
557
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,600
We are always hiring at
Morris Heights Health Center,
558
00:33:09,633 --> 00:33:12,033
and we always
have opportunities,
559
00:33:12,066 --> 00:33:14,733
whether it's for administration,
whether it's for marketing,
560
00:33:14,766 --> 00:33:17,866
whether it's for healthcare,
customer service, clerical,
561
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:20,533
you name it, we've got it
at Morris Heights.
562
00:33:20,566 --> 00:33:21,966
We do have a table
563
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000
where we're providing
free screenings today.
564
00:33:24,033 --> 00:33:25,466
We're checking
the blood pressure,
565
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:27,600
we're checking the sugar,
and we're also
566
00:33:27,633 --> 00:33:32,000
doing rapid H.I.V.
testing today, completely free.
567
00:33:32,033 --> 00:33:35,233
Did you hear that? Free.
568
00:33:35,266 --> 00:33:36,633
The idea of Gotcha Techs
569
00:33:36,666 --> 00:33:38,900
has been to help the community
in ways that we are here
570
00:33:38,933 --> 00:33:41,066
working with the public library.
571
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:45,433
So, don't think because
you don't have skills currently
572
00:33:45,466 --> 00:33:47,166
that you can't
attain those skills.
573
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,166
Because we also
work with and promote
574
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,533
the library's program,
575
00:33:50,566 --> 00:33:53,333
which is the TechConnect program
here at the library.
576
00:33:53,366 --> 00:33:56,500
It does a lot of training
to help lift your skillset.
577
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:00,540
So we're going to pause
for a minute.
578
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,133
We've got people
who are working right now
579
00:34:11,166 --> 00:34:12,800
who are not job-ready.
580
00:34:12,833 --> 00:34:14,300
The trend is,
people are getting jobs
581
00:34:14,333 --> 00:34:15,833
based on who you know.
582
00:34:15,866 --> 00:34:16,909
So, one of the things
I want to do is
583
00:34:16,933 --> 00:34:17,900
I want to continue
584
00:34:17,933 --> 00:34:19,866
to add value to people.
585
00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:21,800
It doesn't matter
what kind of jobs you've had,
586
00:34:21,833 --> 00:34:23,133
what kind of experience.
587
00:34:23,166 --> 00:34:26,133
If you're eager to work,
I can work with you.
588
00:34:26,166 --> 00:34:28,233
Hey, you might have
the education,
589
00:34:28,266 --> 00:34:30,133
you might have the experience.
590
00:34:30,166 --> 00:34:32,000
But the question is,
are you going to be
591
00:34:32,033 --> 00:34:34,500
a good fit to work here?
592
00:34:34,533 --> 00:34:35,742
They're looking at
your personality.
593
00:34:35,766 --> 00:34:38,233
And the first five minutes
of your interview
594
00:34:38,266 --> 00:34:40,009
will determine whether
you get the job or not.
595
00:34:40,033 --> 00:34:41,400
Now you need to synchronize
596
00:34:41,433 --> 00:34:44,000
your responses
with your body language.
597
00:34:44,033 --> 00:34:46,766
"Are you a people-person,
Ms. Rodriguez?"
598
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,633
"Yes, I'm a people person."
599
00:34:48,666 --> 00:34:50,633
"Mr. Torres,
why should we hire you?"
600
00:34:50,666 --> 00:34:53,100
"You should hire me
because I have...
601
00:34:53,133 --> 00:34:55,900
I'm very enthusiastic
and I have passion."
602
00:34:55,933 --> 00:34:57,000
That's what we want.
603
00:34:57,033 --> 00:34:58,666
We want your transferable skills
604
00:34:58,700 --> 00:35:02,933
to be transparent,
so people can see that passion.
605
00:35:02,966 --> 00:35:05,000
What are your top three assets?
606
00:35:05,033 --> 00:35:07,633
You need to bring that out
in an interview, okay?
607
00:35:07,666 --> 00:35:09,566
Otherwise, they won't see that.
608
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,709
You know, an interview's like
609
00:35:10,733 --> 00:35:12,033
a cat-and-mouse game, right?
610
00:35:12,066 --> 00:35:13,366
"Tell me about yourself."
611
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,776
"Well, I'm only going
to give you limited stuff."
612
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,266
It's a cat-and-mouse game.
613
00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:19,100
No, you've got to be
brutally transparent.
614
00:35:19,133 --> 00:35:20,366
You want that job?
615
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,500
You've got nothing to lose.
616
00:35:21,533 --> 00:35:23,800
Be transparent, be honest.
617
00:35:23,833 --> 00:35:24,833
Right?
618
00:35:26,066 --> 00:35:27,666
What have you got to lose?
619
00:35:44,266 --> 00:35:47,300
We are in a transformation
of our branches
620
00:35:47,333 --> 00:35:49,766
from the wonderful but passive
621
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,167
repositories and spaces
to education centers.
622
00:35:52,168 --> 00:35:54,533
Repositories and spaces
to education centers.
623
00:35:54,566 --> 00:35:55,733
Right?
624
00:35:55,766 --> 00:35:57,076
That was my commitment
to the board.
625
00:35:57,100 --> 00:35:59,633
The other commitment
I made to the board is...
626
00:35:59,666 --> 00:36:01,166
And we will do this
to the extent
627
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,233
that we can find
the resources to do it,
628
00:36:03,266 --> 00:36:05,733
we will not steal resources
629
00:36:05,766 --> 00:36:09,000
from elsewhere
in the system to do this,
630
00:36:09,033 --> 00:36:11,300
I'm sticking
to those commitments.
631
00:36:11,333 --> 00:36:16,200
The... what I,
the way I read that, it says,
632
00:36:16,233 --> 00:36:20,333
we have to maximize
how much money
633
00:36:20,366 --> 00:36:27,233
we can get or use from the city
to do the middle band,
634
00:36:27,266 --> 00:36:30,700
so the... not just drop-in,
but not as intensive...
635
00:36:30,733 --> 00:36:32,000
Right. Yeah.
636
00:36:32,033 --> 00:36:35,300
And the most intensive band,
even if that means
637
00:36:35,333 --> 00:36:37,533
changing our model
of delivery...
638
00:36:37,566 --> 00:36:38,933
Right.
639
00:36:38,966 --> 00:36:41,666
To fit RFP
640
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:42,866
and the city's agenda. Yeah.
641
00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:44,033
Right? Yeah.
642
00:36:44,066 --> 00:36:47,566
If we want to do more than that,
643
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,600
it will be dependent
644
00:36:49,633 --> 00:36:51,876
on finding the private resources
to do more than that. Right.
645
00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:53,366
Right? In a sense,
646
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,033
we should set
our educational priorities,
647
00:36:56,066 --> 00:36:58,500
and then let our scale decisions
648
00:36:58,533 --> 00:37:01,033
be guided by the resources
we can find.
649
00:37:01,066 --> 00:37:03,400
And the...
With the first priority being
650
00:37:03,433 --> 00:37:07,700
redirecting and locking in
city resources.
651
00:37:07,733 --> 00:37:10,366
So maybe another way
to look at this is to say,
652
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,233
we need to be sustainable
in these two places.
653
00:37:13,266 --> 00:37:14,500
I'm just trying to say,
654
00:37:14,533 --> 00:37:16,300
where is sustainability
key, right?
655
00:37:16,333 --> 00:37:19,066
Because we can't predict
where the city money
656
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:21,433
is necessarily going
to go every year, right?
657
00:37:21,466 --> 00:37:23,233
That's very unpredictable.
658
00:37:23,266 --> 00:37:25,633
And so is the
development resources.
659
00:37:25,666 --> 00:37:27,966
So we're financially
unpredictable.
660
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,333
Does that make sense?
661
00:37:29,366 --> 00:37:31,633
So if we want to make sure
you're committed
662
00:37:31,666 --> 00:37:33,833
to some sort of sustainability,
663
00:37:33,866 --> 00:37:36,366
are we saying that that
is in the early literacy,
664
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,066
and this second band, right?
665
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:42,500
And is this
a wonderful thing to have,
666
00:37:42,533 --> 00:37:43,676
but when you can't afford it,
667
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:45,933
that's what you get out of it.
668
00:37:45,966 --> 00:37:48,300
Except to the degree
we can shift
669
00:37:48,333 --> 00:37:51,066
to the city's programming...
Right.
670
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:53,933
To meet this,
because the mayor is committed
671
00:37:53,966 --> 00:37:56,400
to additional after school.
Right.
672
00:37:56,433 --> 00:37:58,066
And if it means... that means
673
00:37:58,100 --> 00:37:59,533
we're doing five-day-a-week
674
00:37:59,566 --> 00:38:01,300
instead of
two-and-a-half-day-a-week,
675
00:38:01,333 --> 00:38:03,833
less kids, the same facilities,
676
00:38:03,866 --> 00:38:06,766
that's a good outcome,
as far as I'm concerned.
677
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,566
The... so...
678
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,966
yes, in general,
I think that's right.
679
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,266
But that doesn't mean
we shouldn't try to continue
680
00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:16,900
to find private funds
to do more, right?
681
00:38:16,933 --> 00:38:18,500
Right, yeah, of course.
682
00:38:18,533 --> 00:38:19,576
But I think it's
really important
683
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:24,333
that private fundraising
is a reaction
684
00:38:24,366 --> 00:38:26,433
to our priorities and plans,
685
00:38:26,466 --> 00:38:29,000
rather than that
we are given money
686
00:38:29,033 --> 00:38:31,066
that tells us how
to do programming.
687
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:32,433
So I think that's
the first thing
688
00:38:32,466 --> 00:38:34,033
we all have to agree on...
Right.
689
00:38:34,066 --> 00:38:37,100
Because I think in the past
there has been some, like,
690
00:38:37,133 --> 00:38:39,666
somebody wants to do something
and we're like, "Okay."
691
00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:41,400
You know? No, no, absolutely.
692
00:38:41,433 --> 00:38:43,466
And we are setting
those priorities...
693
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:45,166
Right here... with the banding.
694
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,366
Right, okay. Yes.
695
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,400
I understand that, right?
696
00:38:47,433 --> 00:38:49,233
The...
697
00:38:49,266 --> 00:38:52,509
- And I think we, if we
can focus on what is,
698
00:38:52,533 --> 00:38:55,133
I mean, we have
the capability to, A,
699
00:38:55,166 --> 00:38:57,433
find donors that are interested
700
00:38:57,466 --> 00:38:58,533
in the things we're doing,
701
00:38:58,566 --> 00:39:00,266
but also turn donors that think
702
00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:02,466
they want to start new programs
and have ideas
703
00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:04,233
away from those ideas... Away.
704
00:39:04,266 --> 00:39:08,833
And into something
that's a more sustainable,
705
00:39:08,866 --> 00:39:10,266
strategic program. Agreed.
706
00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:11,966
But one of the ways we said
707
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,433
that was sustainable is
invest in this,
708
00:39:14,466 --> 00:39:16,833
it will demonstrate to the city
that they should invest now,
709
00:39:16,866 --> 00:39:19,366
and then money flips over,
710
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,042
which is the process
we're in the middle of...
711
00:39:21,066 --> 00:39:22,233
Right. Which also requires
712
00:39:22,266 --> 00:39:25,600
some, some tweaks
of our policy choices,
713
00:39:25,633 --> 00:39:27,233
which is fine
as long as we're still
714
00:39:27,266 --> 00:39:29,000
doing what we want to
715
00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:31,400
and believe the citizens
need us to do.
716
00:39:31,433 --> 00:39:32,800
I mean, the way
I think about this
717
00:39:32,833 --> 00:39:34,566
on a macro scale... Iris, tell me
718
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,333
whether this
is cockamamie or not,
719
00:39:37,366 --> 00:39:42,233
is, since 2008... cut, city cuts,
720
00:39:42,266 --> 00:39:46,166
learned massive efficiencies,
you know, with thanks
721
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,700
to Christopher and everyone
in the branches.
722
00:39:51,733 --> 00:39:55,633
Now the money is moving
towards restoration.
723
00:39:55,666 --> 00:40:00,866
Rather than use those resources
to sort of simply go back
724
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:02,766
to our previous practices,
725
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,200
some of which we learned
were more inefficient
726
00:40:05,233 --> 00:40:08,966
than they needed to be,
to use that reinvestment
727
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,500
for two purposes.
728
00:40:10,533 --> 00:40:12,600
One, additional time,
729
00:40:12,633 --> 00:40:15,833
that just takes staff,
et cetera, of all kinds.
730
00:40:15,866 --> 00:40:18,900
And, two, additional
educational programming.
731
00:40:18,933 --> 00:40:21,566
Is that... that's my general...
732
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,800
And to the degree
that private money
733
00:40:24,833 --> 00:40:29,800
helps to seed that
and add to that on top,
734
00:40:29,833 --> 00:40:31,100
that's great.
735
00:40:31,133 --> 00:40:33,833
Remember, this is a
public-private partnership.
736
00:40:33,866 --> 00:40:35,833
So we use private money
737
00:40:35,866 --> 00:40:39,433
to try to jumpstart
public money.
738
00:40:39,466 --> 00:40:42,366
Now, let's use public money
739
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,900
to try to up the ante
for private money.
740
00:40:45,933 --> 00:40:48,100
That's how this builds, right?
741
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,100
So, hi everybody,
742
00:44:09,133 --> 00:44:11,766
thanks for coming.
743
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,176
This is my favorite day
of the whole semester,
744
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,300
coming to the
picture collection.
745
00:44:15,333 --> 00:44:17,666
And I'm going to
hand it over to Billy,
746
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:19,766
who's going to explain
747
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,300
how this particular section
of the library works,
748
00:44:23,333 --> 00:44:28,700
and how we will be working here,
finding our inspiration.
749
00:44:28,733 --> 00:44:29,700
Okay, so, welcome.
750
00:44:29,733 --> 00:44:33,733
This collection opened in 1915
751
00:44:33,766 --> 00:44:35,400
at the main library
across the street,
752
00:44:35,433 --> 00:44:36,676
the Stephen A. Schwarzman
Building,
753
00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:38,333
the one with the lions.
754
00:44:38,366 --> 00:44:39,942
If you think about what
was happening in New York City
755
00:44:39,966 --> 00:44:42,066
at that time, 1915,
756
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:44,233
so like right at the tail end
757
00:44:44,266 --> 00:44:48,300
of the immigration explosion,
758
00:44:48,333 --> 00:44:49,576
um, and if you think
of how that affects
759
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,366
absolutely everything,
760
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,609
- from businesses to advertising,
- from businesses to advertising,
761
00:44:53,633 --> 00:44:58,833
And artists having new jobs,
or more jobs,
762
00:44:58,866 --> 00:45:00,242
so lots of artists
at that time period,
763
00:45:00,266 --> 00:45:02,309
if you think of the environment
they were working in,
764
00:45:02,333 --> 00:45:06,433
they had lots of things,
new jobs, advertising.
765
00:45:06,466 --> 00:45:07,642
Instead of going
across the street
766
00:45:07,666 --> 00:45:09,533
with very specific needs,
you know,
767
00:45:09,566 --> 00:45:11,166
"I need a picture of this
768
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,366
'cause I have an ad that's...
the deadline's tomorrow."
769
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,933
And we actually have
examples of the things
770
00:45:15,966 --> 00:45:17,066
people were asking for.
771
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:18,109
We kept journals at that time
772
00:45:18,133 --> 00:45:19,309
to see what
they were asking for,
773
00:45:19,333 --> 00:45:20,733
in case we had it or not.
774
00:45:20,766 --> 00:45:22,742
And some of this stuff
was really, really specific.
775
00:45:22,766 --> 00:45:24,666
Like, "I need a picture
of dolls being carried
776
00:45:24,700 --> 00:45:28,333
into France by an Italian
in the 18th century."
777
00:45:28,366 --> 00:45:29,500
Like, you know, I don't know
778
00:45:29,533 --> 00:45:31,100
what the person was working on.
779
00:45:31,133 --> 00:45:32,509
A lot of the times things
are just simple.
780
00:45:32,533 --> 00:45:33,800
I need a picture of a giraffe,
781
00:45:33,833 --> 00:45:35,900
or a picture of somebody
holding an umbrella.
782
00:45:35,933 --> 00:45:37,733
Sometimes
it's really complicated.
783
00:45:37,766 --> 00:45:40,933
And that library
has millions of pictures.
784
00:45:40,966 --> 00:45:42,200
They've got lots of stuff.
785
00:45:42,233 --> 00:45:44,566
The problem is,
the way it's organized,
786
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,833
it's by creator's name
and title.
787
00:45:46,866 --> 00:45:48,566
So if it's a picture
of a giraffe,
788
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,766
but taken by
a particular photographer,
789
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,866
or you know, it's a printmaking,
790
00:45:52,900 --> 00:45:54,400
you know, an etching
or something,
791
00:45:54,433 --> 00:45:55,473
that's how it's organized.
792
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:56,876
So if you go in
looking for something
793
00:45:56,900 --> 00:46:00,566
based on a subject,
it's hard to find.
794
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:01,809
So what they
slowly started doing
795
00:46:01,833 --> 00:46:04,266
is collecting stuff
by subject heading.
796
00:46:04,300 --> 00:46:05,676
So when somebody came in
looking for pictures
797
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:07,400
of fortune tellers,
798
00:46:07,433 --> 00:46:08,866
or pictures
of people in raincoats,
799
00:46:08,900 --> 00:46:11,300
or pictures of people
seen from behind,
800
00:46:11,333 --> 00:46:12,300
there would just be a folder,
801
00:46:12,333 --> 00:46:14,000
and those things
would be in that folder.
802
00:46:14,033 --> 00:46:15,742
And a hundred years later,
we're still here.
803
00:46:15,766 --> 00:46:18,100
So yeah,
so the past hundred years,
804
00:46:18,133 --> 00:46:20,766
every single working artist
in New York City
805
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,233
probably used this collection.
806
00:46:22,266 --> 00:46:25,033
In the '30s, Diego Rivera,
when he was doing murals,
807
00:46:25,066 --> 00:46:27,500
had a little incident
at Rockefeller Center,
808
00:46:27,533 --> 00:46:30,866
some of you might know about.
809
00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:32,333
And later that year,
he was doing
810
00:46:32,366 --> 00:46:36,533
labor union hall murals
at the New Workers School.
811
00:46:36,566 --> 00:46:39,100
He sent people
to this collection.
812
00:46:39,133 --> 00:46:43,000
Joseph Cornell lived
in Queens on Utopia Parkway.
813
00:46:43,033 --> 00:46:44,633
He used this collection
constantly,
814
00:46:44,666 --> 00:46:47,133
if you've ever seen
his boxes in his collages.
815
00:46:47,166 --> 00:46:48,566
Most of the images
in those boxes
816
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,600
were, like, sourced from
the picture collection.
817
00:46:51,633 --> 00:46:55,233
Andy Warhol stole
lots of stuff from us.
818
00:46:55,266 --> 00:46:56,233
I'll stop a little bit,
819
00:46:56,266 --> 00:46:57,500
I'll let Jay jump in,
820
00:46:57,533 --> 00:46:59,666
and if you have a question,
just ask.
821
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:05,066
This is the world's largest
circulating free picture file.
822
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:07,800
And, as he was mentioning,
823
00:47:07,833 --> 00:47:10,233
this is a place
that's meant to be used
824
00:47:10,266 --> 00:47:11,866
by people who make things
825
00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:14,500
and think of ideas
and are artists.
826
00:47:14,533 --> 00:47:15,676
You don't need to wear gloves,
827
00:47:15,700 --> 00:47:17,109
you don't need
to make an appointment,
828
00:47:17,133 --> 00:47:19,133
we don't keep things
in plastic bags,
829
00:47:19,166 --> 00:47:21,633
like baseball cards
or old comic books.
830
00:47:21,666 --> 00:47:25,400
You're encouraged
to use what is here.
831
00:47:25,433 --> 00:47:28,000
So, as an example
832
00:47:28,033 --> 00:47:31,233
of what you see around you
in all these files,
833
00:47:31,266 --> 00:47:36,766
this is a file
called "Dogs in Action."
834
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,266
We have lots of dog files.
835
00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:40,633
There's dogs by breed,
there's just dogs in general.
836
00:47:40,666 --> 00:47:43,200
This is "Dogs in Action."
837
00:47:43,233 --> 00:47:45,666
Look at the range
of pictures there are,
838
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:48,200
and the different styles.
839
00:47:50,366 --> 00:47:54,126
- There's a person having
fun with a large dog.
840
00:47:55,233 --> 00:47:57,700
A dog that
fetched the newspaper.
841
00:48:00,066 --> 00:48:01,133
Digging.
842
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,266
Leaping and wet.
843
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:08,966
Somebody trying
844
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,733
to pull a dog's jaws open,
845
00:48:10,766 --> 00:48:12,933
maybe to give it a pill
or something like that.
846
00:48:14,133 --> 00:48:17,766
A pit bull
chewing a ball to pieces
847
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,300
until there isn't
anything left of it.
848
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,333
A dog jumping out of
a bathtub, from an ad.
849
00:48:25,366 --> 00:48:27,400
A dog, again,
flying through the air,
850
00:48:27,433 --> 00:48:29,733
all four feet off the ground.
851
00:48:29,766 --> 00:48:33,600
And, again, tug of war
with a piece of clothing.
852
00:48:33,633 --> 00:48:38,100
So, besides this being a file
of dogs doing stuff,
853
00:48:38,133 --> 00:48:41,700
you saw the different range
of pictures there were.
854
00:48:41,733 --> 00:48:46,966
Photos, drawings, prints,
all different sorts of stuff.
855
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,233
Different moods,
some looked threatening,
856
00:48:49,266 --> 00:48:52,066
some looked silly,
some looked happy.
857
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:54,900
That's how this
can be useful for you,
858
00:48:54,933 --> 00:48:58,233
because you're
into drama and the stage.
859
00:48:58,266 --> 00:49:02,166
And what we have here
is mostly arranged by topic.
860
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,900
As was mentioned before,
861
00:49:03,933 --> 00:49:07,066
we have pictures
of atomic explosions,
862
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:10,366
pictures of shoes,
of pickles, of umbrellas,
863
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,300
all different sorts of things.
864
00:49:12,333 --> 00:49:17,800
There are very few pictures
that are by mood or type.
865
00:49:17,833 --> 00:49:19,300
What the librarians here do,
866
00:49:19,333 --> 00:49:20,766
what the person
at the desk does,
867
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,100
if you ask them a question,
868
00:49:22,133 --> 00:49:24,633
they say, "What comes
to your mind
869
00:49:24,666 --> 00:49:26,733
when you think of this?"
870
00:49:26,766 --> 00:49:29,233
If you can tell
the person at the desk
871
00:49:29,266 --> 00:49:31,500
what you're thinking of,
872
00:49:31,533 --> 00:49:32,700
we can tell you the places
873
00:49:32,733 --> 00:49:35,100
to look to composite that.
874
00:49:35,133 --> 00:49:37,433
It's very much
about inspiration,
875
00:49:37,466 --> 00:49:39,666
and about how we translate
that inspiration
876
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:43,066
into pictures
of specific things.
877
00:49:43,100 --> 00:49:46,766
So what you see around you,
all these files,
878
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:51,200
each file is one subject
or one thing
879
00:49:51,233 --> 00:49:54,300
or one occurrence
or one happening.
880
00:49:54,333 --> 00:49:56,400
It's basically split
into two halves.
881
00:49:56,433 --> 00:50:01,233
This wall, famous people,
A to Z by last name.
882
00:50:01,266 --> 00:50:02,766
Royalty in the corner.
883
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,566
They have their own
because they're exclusive
884
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,066
and don't want to mingle
with the common people.
885
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:08,376
And then there's
everything else,
886
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,133
A to Z.
887
00:50:10,166 --> 00:50:11,133
All these things
888
00:50:11,166 --> 00:50:13,166
that we've described.
889
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,533
And the things
that we have here,
890
00:50:14,566 --> 00:50:17,433
the hundred years
is important, too.
891
00:50:17,466 --> 00:50:19,533
Because it's not like
we started a year ago
892
00:50:19,566 --> 00:50:21,866
and just looked
for all these things
893
00:50:21,900 --> 00:50:23,733
and filled up the files.
894
00:50:23,766 --> 00:50:25,700
We have been
clipping the pictures
895
00:50:25,733 --> 00:50:26,700
for a hundred years
896
00:50:26,733 --> 00:50:28,833
as these events were happening.
897
00:50:28,866 --> 00:50:31,000
So there's not only the interest
898
00:50:31,033 --> 00:50:32,300
of actually touching something
899
00:50:32,333 --> 00:50:34,966
that might be 70 years old,
900
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,433
these are advertisements
from that time period.
901
00:50:38,466 --> 00:50:41,033
So you get to see
the typefaces they used,
902
00:50:41,066 --> 00:50:43,833
you get to see how
they could reproduce color,
903
00:50:43,866 --> 00:50:46,733
how they portrayed
women, minorities,
904
00:50:46,766 --> 00:50:47,966
things like that.
905
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,566
You can see the look
of different things
906
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,242
- changing through history
as people's attitudes
907
00:50:54,266 --> 00:50:56,966
And the technology
of reproduction has changed.
908
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,400
So, it really is like
looking back in time.
909
00:51:00,433 --> 00:51:02,900
A lot of the '50s and '60s
stuff here
910
00:51:02,933 --> 00:51:05,133
is from the '50s and '60s.
911
00:51:05,166 --> 00:51:07,166
There's stuff from the 1900s.
912
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,000
I'm going to give
you time to go around
913
00:51:10,033 --> 00:51:14,700
and look for the pictures
for your specific scenes.
914
00:51:14,733 --> 00:51:17,466
And if you want to
share the folder, that's fine,
915
00:51:17,500 --> 00:51:18,866
but have your own pictures.
916
00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:20,333
So, you have
your own inspiration,
917
00:51:20,366 --> 00:51:22,033
your own research.
918
00:53:18,700 --> 00:53:22,333
My grandparents were all
second-generation New York Jews.
919
00:53:22,366 --> 00:53:23,600
They were not immigrants,
920
00:53:23,633 --> 00:53:25,933
they were the children
of immigrants.
921
00:53:25,966 --> 00:53:28,566
And I was very interested
in the journey
922
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,466
that they took, right?
923
00:53:30,500 --> 00:53:33,066
I mean, we talk a lot
about the immigrant journey
924
00:53:33,100 --> 00:53:36,366
from Eastern Europe
to the Lower East Side, right?
925
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,366
But we don't think as much
926
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,033
about what it was like
for their children,
927
00:53:41,066 --> 00:53:45,900
who had the opportunity
to become more American,
928
00:53:45,933 --> 00:53:47,109
and yet they were
still very much
929
00:53:47,133 --> 00:53:49,400
tied to their parents
and to the culture
930
00:53:49,433 --> 00:53:50,566
that they had grown up in
931
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,276
- on the Lower East Side.
- On the Lower East Side.
932
00:53:52,300 --> 00:53:53,976
And so my first book,
I mean, my dissertation
933
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,300
and then my first book,
was about the depiction
934
00:53:57,333 --> 00:54:00,300
of second-generation
New York Jewish life
935
00:54:00,333 --> 00:54:01,566
in vaudeville,
936
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,666
and in silent film,
and in Broadway theater,
937
00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:07,500
and in music, and comic strips,
938
00:54:07,533 --> 00:54:09,100
and comedy.
939
00:54:09,133 --> 00:54:11,466
And then I realized,
after I finished writing that,
940
00:54:11,500 --> 00:54:14,600
there was a whole aspect to it
that I hadn't explored,
941
00:54:14,633 --> 00:54:18,066
which was, where did
all of these scenes
942
00:54:18,100 --> 00:54:22,200
in film and theater
and comedy take place?
943
00:54:22,233 --> 00:54:25,366
Well, they almost all
took place in delis.
944
00:54:27,233 --> 00:54:28,509
There was something
about the deli
945
00:54:28,533 --> 00:54:31,766
as a location
of New York Jewish life
946
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,966
that had never really
been analyzed.
947
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,566
And then I said to myself,
948
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,333
"Well, let me try to figure out,
how many delis were there?"
949
00:54:40,366 --> 00:54:41,966
And where were they located?
950
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,533
And what was their function
951
00:54:43,566 --> 00:54:47,600
in terms of the social
and economic life
952
00:54:47,633 --> 00:54:49,566
of the Jews during that period?
953
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,900
The delicatessen,
and the food that was served
954
00:54:51,933 --> 00:54:54,266
in the delicatessen,
become important
955
00:54:54,300 --> 00:54:57,033
not just for Jews,
but for the identity
956
00:54:57,066 --> 00:54:59,133
of the city as a whole.
957
00:54:59,166 --> 00:55:01,466
I mean, we think about
New York as the Big Apple.
958
00:55:01,500 --> 00:55:03,300
But I don't think most people,
959
00:55:03,333 --> 00:55:06,433
when they come to New York,
start eating apples.
960
00:55:06,466 --> 00:55:08,566
It's not the first thing
961
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,566
that you want to eat
when you come to New York.
962
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,833
Right? People want
to eat a pastrami sandwich.
963
00:55:14,866 --> 00:55:17,000
And, you know what's interesting
about both of those,
964
00:55:17,033 --> 00:55:19,366
and I write about this
in the book, that, again,
965
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,700
they're both symbols
of carnality, right?
966
00:55:21,733 --> 00:55:23,666
They both have
a sexual undertone to them.
967
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:25,133
I mean, the apple, obviously,
968
00:55:25,166 --> 00:55:27,266
right, from the bible.
969
00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:29,233
And the overstuffed,
970
00:55:29,266 --> 00:55:33,200
or in Yiddish, ongeshtopt,
pastrami sandwich.
971
00:55:33,233 --> 00:55:35,433
There is a kind of very crude
972
00:55:35,466 --> 00:55:36,966
sexual imagery.
973
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,200
This was the time
974
00:55:38,233 --> 00:55:40,533
after the First World War
that Jews are moving
975
00:55:40,566 --> 00:55:42,933
out of the Lower East Side,
they're moving to the Bronx,
976
00:55:42,966 --> 00:55:43,976
they're moving to Brooklyn,
977
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,700
all the places that
we said before, right?
978
00:55:45,733 --> 00:55:46,742
They're moving uptown
to Harlem, which was
979
00:55:46,766 --> 00:55:48,233
a very Jewish neighborhood
980
00:55:48,266 --> 00:55:50,733
in the years between the wars.
981
00:55:50,766 --> 00:55:54,800
And they are beginning
somewhat to move more
982
00:55:54,833 --> 00:55:56,533
into the mainstream
of American society.
983
00:55:56,566 --> 00:55:59,100
It's still a very, very
anti-Semitic culture
984
00:55:59,133 --> 00:56:01,166
that they're living in, right?
985
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,933
1920s is probably
the most anti-Semitic
986
00:56:02,966 --> 00:56:05,033
decade in American history.
987
00:56:05,066 --> 00:56:06,800
You have the rise of the KKK,
988
00:56:06,833 --> 00:56:08,633
you have Henry Ford, you know,
989
00:56:08,666 --> 00:56:10,209
in the pages of the
Dearborn Independent,
990
00:56:10,233 --> 00:56:11,842
who was constantly
fulminating against Jews
991
00:56:11,866 --> 00:56:13,306
and saying that
they're destroying...
992
00:56:13,333 --> 00:56:15,666
You know, he's a follower
of Adolf Hitler.
993
00:56:15,700 --> 00:56:17,400
I mean, really bad
anti-Semitism.
994
00:56:17,433 --> 00:56:18,733
There's a red scare,
995
00:56:18,766 --> 00:56:21,233
which is often associated
with the Jews, right?
996
00:56:21,266 --> 00:56:24,300
But Jews are finding
997
00:56:24,333 --> 00:56:26,666
a niche, at least
998
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:29,066
in the New York economy,
partly through
999
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:31,933
their involvement
in the entertainment business,
1000
00:56:31,966 --> 00:56:33,609
because Jews are very,
very heavily involved
1001
00:56:33,633 --> 00:56:35,433
in entertainment, right?
1002
00:56:35,466 --> 00:56:37,166
At a time when it's seen
1003
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,533
to be quite disreputable
to be making movies
1004
00:56:39,566 --> 00:56:40,809
and to be involved
in the theater,
1005
00:56:40,833 --> 00:56:42,500
and so on and so forth.
1006
00:56:42,533 --> 00:56:44,566
And they also are
moving very much
1007
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,333
into food-related businesses.
1008
00:56:46,366 --> 00:56:48,200
And, of course,
they're very involved
1009
00:56:48,233 --> 00:56:51,066
in the garment industry, right?
1010
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:52,942
- And they have a sense of popular taste
- And they have a sense of popular taste
1011
00:56:52,966 --> 00:56:55,533
And what people want
and what people are...
1012
00:56:55,566 --> 00:56:56,533
Are looking for.
1013
00:56:56,566 --> 00:56:58,000
So, World War II...
1014
00:56:58,033 --> 00:57:01,166
"Send a salami to
your boy in the army."
1015
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:02,776
"Send a salami."
Why are you sending a salami?
1016
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,266
This gets back
to this whole theme
1017
00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:05,576
that I've been
talking about, right,
1018
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:06,666
of sexuality.
1019
00:57:06,700 --> 00:57:07,809
Why are you sending a salami?
1020
00:57:07,833 --> 00:57:09,066
There's a reason, right?
1021
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:11,000
I mean, it's this
sort of phallic symbol.
1022
00:57:11,033 --> 00:57:14,100
And so, if the whole point
is that you're sending a salami
1023
00:57:14,133 --> 00:57:16,533
to give your son
a dose of virility
1024
00:57:16,566 --> 00:57:18,333
so that he can defeat the enemy
1025
00:57:18,366 --> 00:57:21,500
and return safely to the bosom
of his family, right?
1026
00:57:21,533 --> 00:57:23,076
I mean, that's
the whole point of it, right?
1027
00:57:23,100 --> 00:57:25,100
I mean, subconsciously, right?
1028
00:57:25,133 --> 00:57:26,900
There's a lot of
subconscious symbolism
1029
00:57:26,933 --> 00:57:29,233
that I'm trying to suggest
is going on here.
1030
00:57:29,266 --> 00:57:31,000
What's happening
after World War II is
1031
00:57:31,033 --> 00:57:32,466
Jews are moving out of the city,
1032
00:57:32,500 --> 00:57:35,166
they're moving
to the suburbs, right?
1033
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,333
And they're no longer
congregating in delis
1034
00:57:37,366 --> 00:57:38,333
to the extent that they used to,
1035
00:57:38,366 --> 00:57:40,366
because they're not living
1036
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,609
in close proximity
to one another
1037
00:57:41,633 --> 00:57:44,333
and to the neighborhood deli
anymore, right?
1038
00:57:44,366 --> 00:57:46,133
So you have shopping centers,
1039
00:57:46,166 --> 00:57:49,233
but how many delis do you need
in a shopping center, right?
1040
00:57:49,266 --> 00:57:51,800
Jews are much more part of,
or want to be much more
1041
00:57:51,833 --> 00:57:54,133
a part of the fabric
of American society.
1042
00:57:54,166 --> 00:57:56,466
So the food doesn't go away,
1043
00:57:56,500 --> 00:57:57,776
but where is the food
being sold now
1044
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,666
if it's not being sold in delis?
1045
00:57:59,700 --> 00:58:02,366
Supermarkets, right?
1046
00:58:05,533 --> 00:58:07,066
For that old-fashioned flavor
1047
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:08,800
That all the folks favor
1048
00:58:08,833 --> 00:58:11,500
Try Hebrew National Meats
1049
00:58:11,533 --> 00:58:15,033
They're a treat, to be sure,
'cause the beef is so pure
1050
00:58:15,066 --> 00:58:18,000
In Hebrew National Meats
1051
00:58:18,033 --> 00:58:20,800
You'll find corn beef,
and roast beef, salami
1052
00:58:20,833 --> 00:58:24,700
Pastrami, and wonderful
frankfurters, too
1053
00:58:24,733 --> 00:58:26,633
They are surely delicious
1054
00:58:26,666 --> 00:58:29,900
And purely nutritious,
those Hebrew National...
1055
00:58:29,933 --> 00:58:31,466
Hebrew National...
1056
00:58:44,233 --> 00:58:45,566
My mother sold records
1057
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,866
while my father tried
to make his way in jazz.
1058
00:58:48,900 --> 00:58:51,500
He had a certain charm,
and he could sing,
1059
00:58:51,533 --> 00:58:54,566
and therefore he got a job
with a number of dance bands.
1060
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:55,966
And the year after I was born,
1061
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,600
he got a job with
the Joe Loss Orchestra,
1062
00:58:57,633 --> 00:58:58,866
which was probably
1063
00:58:58,900 --> 00:59:01,833
the most successful
dance band of its day.
1064
00:59:01,866 --> 00:59:03,500
Can we hear him singing?
1065
00:59:03,533 --> 00:59:04,700
We can hear him singing...
1066
00:59:04,733 --> 00:59:06,966
With that, that one moment.
1067
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,076
Do you want...
Do you want to see,
1068
00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:09,800
so those of you that
watch the television
1069
00:59:09,833 --> 00:59:11,133
may have seen him singing...
1070
00:59:11,166 --> 00:59:13,009
Yeah, but it's all right,
they can watch it again.
1071
00:59:13,033 --> 00:59:16,133
It's so, it's so...
it's so extraordinary.
1072
00:59:16,166 --> 00:59:17,866
Well, there's a little
story behind this
1073
00:59:17,900 --> 00:59:21,233
particular little clip
we're going to see.
1074
00:59:21,266 --> 00:59:26,100
You've got to understand,
the bands of the 1950s
1075
00:59:26,133 --> 00:59:28,666
were well-suited to play
the music of the day.
1076
00:59:28,700 --> 00:59:30,966
It was Frankie Laine
and Johnnie Ray.
1077
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,266
When beat music and
rock 'n' roll came in,
1078
00:59:34,300 --> 00:59:35,833
they weren't so suited to it,
1079
00:59:35,866 --> 00:59:37,366
so they had to find work
1080
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,200
for the saxophone players
and the trombone players.
1081
00:59:40,233 --> 00:59:42,833
While the singers
could be quite adaptable,
1082
00:59:42,866 --> 00:59:45,000
they were having
to cover records
1083
00:59:45,033 --> 00:59:47,466
out of the charts that
were not necessarily
1084
00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:49,300
that suitable for this lineup.
1085
00:59:49,333 --> 00:59:51,633
And then I suppose
this happened.
1086
00:59:55,233 --> 00:59:57,400
ROSS McMANUS: Whoa
1087
00:59:57,433 --> 00:59:58,833
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
1088
01:00:02,500 --> 01:00:07,166
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa
1089
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,900
Whoa
1090
01:00:08,933 --> 01:00:10,166
If I had a hammer
1091
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,433
If I had a hammer
1092
01:00:11,466 --> 01:00:12,576
McMANUS:
I'd hammer in the morning
1093
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:13,800
Hammer in the morning
1094
01:00:13,833 --> 01:00:15,033
I'd hammer in the evening
1095
01:00:15,066 --> 01:00:16,200
Hammer in the evening
1096
01:00:16,233 --> 01:00:17,266
All over this land
1097
01:00:17,300 --> 01:00:18,866
All over this land
1098
01:00:18,900 --> 01:00:21,300
I sing about danger
1099
01:00:21,333 --> 01:00:23,866
I sing a warning here
1100
01:00:23,900 --> 01:00:27,166
I sing about the love between
my brothers and my sisters
1101
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,800
All over, all over this land
1102
01:00:29,833 --> 01:00:32,300
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa
1103
01:00:32,333 --> 01:00:38,766
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa
1104
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:39,900
I've got a hammer
1105
01:00:39,933 --> 01:00:41,500
I've got a hammer
1106
01:00:41,533 --> 01:00:43,700
And I've got a bell
I've got a bell
1107
01:00:43,733 --> 01:00:47,433
And I've got a song
to sing all over this land
1108
01:00:47,466 --> 01:00:48,633
All over this land
1109
01:00:48,666 --> 01:00:51,133
It's the hammer of justice
1110
01:00:51,166 --> 01:00:53,800
It's the hammer of freedom
1111
01:00:53,833 --> 01:00:55,566
And to talk
about the love between
1112
01:00:55,600 --> 01:01:00,000
My brothers and my sisters
all over, all over this land
1113
01:01:00,033 --> 01:01:02,166
Yeah, yeah, yeah
1114
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:03,833
Yeah, yeah, yeah!
1115
01:01:03,866 --> 01:01:06,033
All over this land
1116
01:01:06,066 --> 01:01:07,866
Ooh, all over this land
1117
01:01:07,900 --> 01:01:09,100
Ooh, all over this land...
1118
01:01:09,133 --> 01:01:11,133
Certainly there is a...
1119
01:01:11,166 --> 01:01:13,600
there is a slight family
resemblance.
1120
01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:17,900
Only around the eyes,
not around the feet.
1121
01:01:17,933 --> 01:01:20,466
Er...
1122
01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:23,033
I want to read something
that is actually quite smart.
1123
01:01:23,066 --> 01:01:27,466
I think Greil Marcus,
beautifully in an interview,
1124
01:01:27,500 --> 01:01:31,733
characterizes this moment
of revenge and guilt.
1125
01:01:31,766 --> 01:01:33,833
He says, "Elvis Costello
was someone
1126
01:01:33,866 --> 01:01:36,033
"who you'd better not cross.
1127
01:01:36,066 --> 01:01:38,000
"He was someone who was,
1128
01:01:38,033 --> 01:01:40,766
"as he said
in his first interview...
1129
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,633
"and I really do believe
this is the key to his career...
1130
01:01:44,666 --> 01:01:47,833
"he said the only emotions
he understood
1131
01:01:47,866 --> 01:01:49,833
"were revenge and guilt.
1132
01:01:49,866 --> 01:01:54,533
"Whether or not he's recording
with the Brodsky Quartet,
1133
01:01:54,566 --> 01:01:56,600
"as he did
on The Juliet Letters,
1134
01:01:56,633 --> 01:01:58,733
"or whether he's simply
standing up
1135
01:01:58,766 --> 01:02:00,900
"and singing
'Tramp the Dirt Down, '
1136
01:02:00,933 --> 01:02:03,200
"which is a song about
1137
01:02:03,233 --> 01:02:06,666
"how he wants to dance
on Thatcher's grave,
1138
01:02:06,700 --> 01:02:12,100
"I think he has always looked
for the most effective way
1139
01:02:12,133 --> 01:02:15,600
to make trouble."
1140
01:02:16,733 --> 01:02:18,466
Do you think that's true?
1141
01:02:21,500 --> 01:02:23,900
Which part of it?
1142
01:02:25,666 --> 01:02:27,400
Any part of it.
1143
01:02:27,433 --> 01:02:30,400
Yeah, I think he gives me
way too much credit.
1144
01:02:30,433 --> 01:02:32,833
Um, of course, it's...
1145
01:02:32,866 --> 01:02:37,433
Professor Marcus, you know,
1146
01:02:37,466 --> 01:02:43,000
it's his job to create
a thesis like that.
1147
01:02:43,033 --> 01:02:44,333
That's what he does.
1148
01:02:44,366 --> 01:02:47,700
He writes very, very long
and intricate books
1149
01:02:47,733 --> 01:02:49,533
explaining the connections
1150
01:02:49,566 --> 01:02:52,842
- between various political
and cultural movements,
1151
01:02:52,866 --> 01:02:58,633
And the vividness of that,
to him, I won't deny,
1152
01:02:58,666 --> 01:03:03,666
except that
he's covering a period
1153
01:03:03,700 --> 01:03:08,866
of about nearly 30 years,
25 years.
1154
01:03:08,900 --> 01:03:13,066
And there was any number
of people in my, to myself...
1155
01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:15,400
I know it's very convenient
1156
01:03:15,433 --> 01:03:18,100
to put these labels
like punk or new wave
1157
01:03:18,133 --> 01:03:21,100
or angry
or, you know, political.
1158
01:03:21,133 --> 01:03:24,166
But each song has
a different occasion for me,
1159
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:25,466
and there are different means,
1160
01:03:25,500 --> 01:03:27,033
and there are different motives.
1161
01:03:27,066 --> 01:03:28,433
And there are, I hope,
1162
01:03:28,466 --> 01:03:30,633
different results
if you listen to them.
1163
01:03:30,666 --> 01:03:31,933
And on different days,
1164
01:03:31,966 --> 01:03:33,609
you can sing them
with different inflections.
1165
01:03:33,633 --> 01:03:38,400
I have sung words that are heard
in "Tramp the Dirt Down."
1166
01:03:38,433 --> 01:03:42,900
I sang it on the night
the miner strike collapsed
1167
01:03:42,933 --> 01:03:45,433
in, in, in sketch form,
1168
01:03:45,466 --> 01:03:46,933
and at that time, I would agree
1169
01:03:46,966 --> 01:03:50,433
it was probably
pretty aggressive.
1170
01:03:50,466 --> 01:03:53,033
And then the tune
that I ended up using
1171
01:03:53,066 --> 01:03:55,566
alludes to "Isn't She Lovely."
1172
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,233
It alludes
to "Isn't She Lovely,"
1173
01:03:57,266 --> 01:03:59,533
Stevie Wonder's melody.
1174
01:03:59,566 --> 01:04:01,433
That was a joke.
1175
01:04:01,466 --> 01:04:04,233
But there's a joke
carrying a song
1176
01:04:04,266 --> 01:04:07,566
with all these brutal
and disappointed images
1177
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:11,033
of what that particular time
let loose in people.
1178
01:04:11,066 --> 01:04:14,666
The desire to step
on your fellow countryman
1179
01:04:14,700 --> 01:04:17,300
to get ahead.
1180
01:04:17,333 --> 01:04:19,666
And I still feel that way.
1181
01:04:19,700 --> 01:04:22,033
So I get... I sang the song
up until a few years ago,
1182
01:04:22,066 --> 01:04:24,366
and people said, "You can't
sing it now, she's dead."
1183
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,209
I think, we especially have
to sing it now that she's dead.
1184
01:04:26,233 --> 01:04:27,666
Now is...
1185
01:04:27,700 --> 01:04:31,033
Not because, not because,
no, no, she's a human being.
1186
01:04:31,066 --> 01:04:34,266
She actually died,
you know, in dementia,
1187
01:04:34,300 --> 01:04:37,000
which I literally wouldn't wish
on my worst enemy.
1188
01:04:37,033 --> 01:04:39,533
But what she let loose
in the country,
1189
01:04:39,566 --> 01:04:41,633
I cannot forgive.
1190
01:04:41,666 --> 01:04:42,900
So that's my opinion.
1191
01:04:42,933 --> 01:04:46,300
And in a democracy,
I get to say what I feel,
1192
01:04:46,333 --> 01:04:48,266
and I get to sing it as well,
1193
01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:50,000
just as politicians get
to say it
1194
01:04:50,033 --> 01:04:53,166
over and over again
and get paid to do so.
1195
01:05:21,933 --> 01:05:24,433
If we want as a society
to take advantage
1196
01:05:24,466 --> 01:05:27,000
of all of these great
technological opportunities,
1197
01:05:27,033 --> 01:05:30,600
we have an obligation
to, um, help those folks
1198
01:05:30,633 --> 01:05:33,166
who are being put
in a worse position
1199
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,866
by modern technological change.
1200
01:05:35,900 --> 01:05:37,533
I think the city
understands that,
1201
01:05:37,566 --> 01:05:40,066
and they're doing
a plethora of activities.
1202
01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:44,233
It isn't unified and it isn't
working towards a coherent goal.
1203
01:05:44,266 --> 01:05:48,766
Other cities have,
um, created...
1204
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,309
- so this is the indicators
from Seattle, um,
1205
01:05:52,333 --> 01:05:55,666
Created sort of positive visions
1206
01:05:55,700 --> 01:05:57,000
of what, uh...
1207
01:05:57,033 --> 01:06:01,066
what an inclusive city
could look like.
1208
01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:03,266
If you read those documents,
it becomes very clear
1209
01:06:03,300 --> 01:06:05,833
that the library is actually
1210
01:06:05,866 --> 01:06:08,133
maybe the most crucial
institution,
1211
01:06:08,166 --> 01:06:10,933
because we're a community hub
1212
01:06:10,966 --> 01:06:12,833
for people who don't
have home access.
1213
01:06:12,866 --> 01:06:14,133
We're a place where people
1214
01:06:14,166 --> 01:06:16,066
get exposure who don't
otherwise understand it.
1215
01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:18,433
We're a place where people
can learn skills,
1216
01:06:18,466 --> 01:06:20,400
where kids can do homework
after schools.
1217
01:06:20,433 --> 01:06:21,633
I think there's an opportunity
1218
01:06:21,666 --> 01:06:25,366
to bring together the sort
of full scope of people
1219
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,766
involved in making sure
the wires are in the ground,
1220
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,966
there's affordable internet,
there's community hubs,
1221
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,566
there's digital skills,
1222
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:38,533
to develop a series of
indicators on and goals for
1223
01:06:38,566 --> 01:06:40,300
what an inclusive
New York City would be,
1224
01:06:40,333 --> 01:06:42,433
and that we could...
1225
01:06:42,466 --> 01:06:45,100
that could be helmed
by the mayor's office,
1226
01:06:45,133 --> 01:06:47,800
but that we could provide
the convening space
1227
01:06:47,833 --> 01:06:51,266
and help them unite
a bunch of their activities.
1228
01:06:51,300 --> 01:06:54,733
That would rationalize a bunch
of the projects they're doing,
1229
01:06:54,766 --> 01:06:57,866
it would give us a way of
continuing to shine the light
1230
01:06:57,900 --> 01:06:59,500
on those who are being
left behind,
1231
01:06:59,533 --> 01:07:02,100
and, um, and also, you know,
1232
01:07:02,133 --> 01:07:05,800
highlight the central role the
library's playing in this space.
1233
01:07:05,833 --> 01:07:09,466
Uh, again, it's a thing
that other cities have done
1234
01:07:09,500 --> 01:07:12,733
and that New York is actually
just kind of behind on.
1235
01:07:12,766 --> 01:07:14,666
And actually people come
to us all the time,
1236
01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:15,866
so people talk about us
1237
01:07:15,900 --> 01:07:17,900
as an anchor institution
in the community
1238
01:07:17,933 --> 01:07:20,966
for digital inclusion,
not just digital access,
1239
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,566
but access being, like,
the lowest common denominator.
1240
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,566
It's actually
what do people do with it.
1241
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,933
Not everybody goes to a WeWork,
but they could go
1242
01:07:27,966 --> 01:07:30,466
to their neighborhood
digital incubation center.
1243
01:07:30,500 --> 01:07:31,633
They could go...
1244
01:07:31,666 --> 01:07:33,009
and, you know,
people talk about it,
1245
01:07:33,033 --> 01:07:34,800
not only, certainly
for the people
1246
01:07:34,833 --> 01:07:38,700
who don't have computer access,
but also for everybody.
1247
01:07:38,733 --> 01:07:40,309
The fact of the matter is that,
you know,
1248
01:07:40,333 --> 01:07:41,833
technology is moving at a pace
1249
01:07:41,866 --> 01:07:44,400
that we're all going
to have to keep up with,
1250
01:07:44,433 --> 01:07:46,933
and it's about
how we think about it.
1251
01:07:46,966 --> 01:07:49,300
And so exposure
to all those kinds of tools
1252
01:07:49,333 --> 01:07:51,333
but also to a community
of experts.
1253
01:07:51,366 --> 01:07:52,766
So it doesn't always have
to be us.
1254
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,200
It could be bringing
in a lot of others.
1255
01:07:55,233 --> 01:07:57,133
And so the conversations
I've had,
1256
01:07:57,166 --> 01:08:00,200
many, many conversations
that Luke clearly has had,
1257
01:08:00,233 --> 01:08:03,133
sort of indicate that this is
a great opportunity for us.
1258
01:08:03,166 --> 01:08:05,966
What if we convened
everybody in this space
1259
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:07,966
at a giant conference at SASBY
1260
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:13,933
to articulate what along all,
you know, what do we want
1261
01:08:13,966 --> 01:08:16,366
in terms of people having fiber
to their buildings,
1262
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,566
in terms of community spaces
where they can go online,
1263
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,466
in terms of digital skills.
1264
01:08:20,500 --> 01:08:24,800
We could, you could
then commission CUFF
1265
01:08:24,833 --> 01:08:27,500
or somebody could commission
CUFF to do a research,
1266
01:08:27,533 --> 01:08:30,300
a basically baseline data
on where we are as a city
1267
01:08:30,333 --> 01:08:32,500
that would highlight
the gaping holes
1268
01:08:32,533 --> 01:08:34,333
and where New York
is behind the times.
1269
01:08:34,366 --> 01:08:35,800
We could then, six months later,
1270
01:08:35,833 --> 01:08:40,533
convene another big meeting
here at the, um, at SASBY
1271
01:08:40,566 --> 01:08:44,100
to identify low-hanging fruit
and develop strategies
1272
01:08:44,133 --> 01:08:46,833
of which we will certainly
be key players,
1273
01:08:46,866 --> 01:08:49,400
because of our, um,
of our assets.
1274
01:08:49,433 --> 01:08:52,609
- The, that might give the
mayor something to...
1275
01:08:52,633 --> 01:08:55,133
A way of talking about his,
all of his projects.
1276
01:08:55,166 --> 01:08:59,733
It would certainly develop us
as a central player.
1277
01:08:59,766 --> 01:09:01,200
There's like three different
1278
01:09:01,233 --> 01:09:04,466
pieces of narrative that we use
that this stitches together.
1279
01:09:04,500 --> 01:09:07,833
One is the most arresting
figure that Tony uses
1280
01:09:07,866 --> 01:09:09,542
is, you know, one in three
New Yorkers don't have access
1281
01:09:09,566 --> 01:09:10,733
to broadband at home.
1282
01:09:10,766 --> 01:09:13,666
Like, that gets
any audience's attention.
1283
01:09:13,700 --> 01:09:15,900
The second historic one
that we always love
1284
01:09:15,933 --> 01:09:17,666
is, is the Carnegie point,
1285
01:09:17,700 --> 01:09:20,066
is that Carnegie sought
to create a library
1286
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:21,476
within walking distance
of every New Yorker.
1287
01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:24,100
So this is a way to kind of
embrace that heritage
1288
01:09:24,133 --> 01:09:25,600
and say... and I love the way,
1289
01:09:25,633 --> 01:09:27,666
just from a two-second look
at what Seattle did,
1290
01:09:27,700 --> 01:09:31,366
is to say,
"Okay, neighborhood density,
1291
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,800
how many public access spots
are there?"
1292
01:09:33,833 --> 01:09:37,500
It's a way to kind of
renew the Carnegie idea
1293
01:09:37,533 --> 01:09:38,966
in a digital fashion.
1294
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,233
And I think the challenge
1295
01:09:41,266 --> 01:09:44,400
would be how do we,
we want to position ourselves
1296
01:09:44,433 --> 01:09:50,733
as helpful advocates
yet... for the city, um,
1297
01:09:50,766 --> 01:09:52,966
you know,
but a little distance from it.
1298
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,233
This isn't a...
it would be a partnership,
1299
01:09:55,266 --> 01:09:56,766
but... and it's not,
1300
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,640
this wouldn't be the first time
the city wanted
1301
01:09:58,666 --> 01:10:01,400
to plant a million trees,
1302
01:10:01,433 --> 01:10:03,600
and they did a tree census
before that.
1303
01:10:03,633 --> 01:10:08,166
And now, you know, last week
they planted the millionth tree.
1304
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,600
For the library,
with CUFF or whatnot,
1305
01:10:10,633 --> 01:10:12,076
I think it's a super-brilliant
idea to say,
1306
01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:13,300
"Here's what the digital...
1307
01:10:13,333 --> 01:10:15,766
"is one in three
a real accurate number?
1308
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,066
"How does that go up
and down every year?
1309
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:22,233
Here is what it looks like
neighborhood, region by region."
1310
01:10:22,266 --> 01:10:26,933
You know, so, I do think
this is the logical next step
1311
01:10:26,966 --> 01:10:30,666
and our bona fides are there
based on everything,
1312
01:10:30,700 --> 01:10:33,866
but also on the 10,000 lends
that we will have completed.
1313
01:10:33,900 --> 01:10:35,533
I just want us to make sure
1314
01:10:35,566 --> 01:10:37,833
that we don't lose sight
of what digital inclusion is,
1315
01:10:37,866 --> 01:10:39,833
that it isn't just
about broadband.
1316
01:10:39,866 --> 01:10:42,366
And I don't mean
to make that something minor.
1317
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:43,966
It's not, it's huge.
1318
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,500
But that is honestly
simply just not enough...
1319
01:10:47,533 --> 01:10:49,500
Mm-hmm.
And I don't want this to...
1320
01:10:49,533 --> 01:10:52,433
a lot of people are doing
the broadband wagon, sorry.
1321
01:10:52,466 --> 01:10:55,866
So it's what's, what more,
like what kind of society...
1322
01:10:55,900 --> 01:10:57,700
so I just want us to be...
1323
01:10:57,733 --> 01:10:59,076
There's the quantitative story
and there's a qualitative story.
1324
01:10:59,100 --> 01:11:00,300
Well, there's a skill,
1325
01:11:00,333 --> 01:11:02,233
there's a "How do you function
in society?"
1326
01:11:02,266 --> 01:11:04,300
I just want us to be aware
of that, yeah.
1327
01:11:04,333 --> 01:11:05,600
Okay, we're coming to that.
1328
01:11:05,633 --> 01:11:07,533
And then it's changing, right,
1329
01:11:07,566 --> 01:11:09,500
so the free computer
you get somebody in 2015
1330
01:11:09,533 --> 01:11:11,833
isn't going to be relevant
in 2020.
1331
01:11:11,866 --> 01:11:13,666
The bandwidth we secure
for them now
1332
01:11:13,700 --> 01:11:15,933
will be outdated
as the internet changes.
1333
01:11:15,966 --> 01:11:17,633
And the skills
that you learn today
1334
01:11:17,666 --> 01:11:22,066
won't, um, uh, be sufficient
in a couple of years,
1335
01:11:22,100 --> 01:11:26,633
which is why the role
of a library will,
1336
01:11:26,666 --> 01:11:28,366
if we want to be in the space,
1337
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,266
will be continually important,
1338
01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:33,533
because there will be
a different set of people
1339
01:11:33,566 --> 01:11:34,933
continually left behind.
1340
01:11:34,966 --> 01:11:36,666
So it's not that broadband
isn't crucial
1341
01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:38,433
or this wasn't a good attempt.
1342
01:11:38,466 --> 01:11:39,766
It's just that it's a...
1343
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,266
if we can widen the focus
1344
01:11:41,300 --> 01:11:44,433
and set the end goal
on engaged internet users,
1345
01:11:44,466 --> 01:11:46,200
we'll see there's
a lot of different ways
1346
01:11:46,233 --> 01:11:47,633
that we can make a difference
1347
01:11:47,666 --> 01:11:49,900
and are already making
a difference as a system.
1348
01:11:49,933 --> 01:11:52,242
Look, this project succeeded
because it got us to this point.
1349
01:11:52,266 --> 01:11:53,233
It was awesome, right?
1350
01:11:53,266 --> 01:11:54,233
Agreed, agreed.
1351
01:11:54,266 --> 01:11:55,766
Yes.
1352
01:11:58,300 --> 01:11:59,266
Hi, everyone.
1353
01:11:59,300 --> 01:12:00,733
Welcome to Books at Noon.
1354
01:12:00,766 --> 01:12:03,433
Today I'm pleased to introduce
Yusef Komunyakaa.
1355
01:12:03,466 --> 01:12:06,000
I wanted to ask you
1356
01:12:06,033 --> 01:12:08,500
if you see yourself
as a political poet?
1357
01:12:08,533 --> 01:12:11,800
Do I see myself
as a political poet?
1358
01:12:11,833 --> 01:12:12,876
- Um...
- I mean you use, I mean,
1359
01:12:12,900 --> 01:12:14,233
there have been, you know,
1360
01:12:14,266 --> 01:12:16,600
you used your experience
in Vietnam
1361
01:12:16,633 --> 01:12:18,233
to talk about, you know,
1362
01:12:18,266 --> 01:12:22,300
and you've used issues
of race in poetry,
1363
01:12:22,333 --> 01:12:24,200
so I'm wondering if you,
1364
01:12:24,233 --> 01:12:27,366
as far as sort of
the spectrum of poetry,
1365
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,800
if you see yourself
as a political poet?
1366
01:12:30,833 --> 01:12:34,433
Well, I think language
is political,
1367
01:12:34,466 --> 01:12:40,633
and that,
that's what I use as a tool.
1368
01:12:40,666 --> 01:12:43,833
I think it was, um,
Richard Wright who said
1369
01:12:43,866 --> 01:12:48,733
that he wanted
to write sentences,
1370
01:12:48,766 --> 01:12:53,900
language that functioned
as a club.
1371
01:12:53,933 --> 01:12:55,800
I don't necessarily
believe that.
1372
01:12:55,833 --> 01:12:58,633
For me, I don't think
the surface,
1373
01:12:58,666 --> 01:13:00,733
the surface of the poem,
1374
01:13:00,766 --> 01:13:04,300
the politics are not
on the surface of the poem,
1375
01:13:04,333 --> 01:13:07,033
but I think
since I use language,
1376
01:13:07,066 --> 01:13:08,633
the politics are underneath,
1377
01:13:08,666 --> 01:13:13,500
woven into
the emotional architecture
1378
01:13:13,533 --> 01:13:14,966
of the poem.
1379
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:19,800
Has that always been
part of your style,
1380
01:13:19,833 --> 01:13:21,633
to weave in what's going on?
1381
01:13:21,666 --> 01:13:23,566
I mean, it's part
of your language,
1382
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:24,876
it's part of who you are
as a poet.
1383
01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:27,000
I go back to Baldwin,
1384
01:13:27,033 --> 01:13:29,000
and James Baldwin said that
1385
01:13:29,033 --> 01:13:30,609
we have to know
what's happening around us
1386
01:13:30,633 --> 01:13:32,466
in order to know
what's happening to us
1387
01:13:32,500 --> 01:13:36,033
because we're a part
of everything around us.
1388
01:13:36,066 --> 01:13:43,366
And I think perhaps the poet
1389
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,500
is cursed to be a keen observer.
1390
01:13:46,533 --> 01:13:47,800
Observer.
1391
01:13:47,833 --> 01:13:50,166
And there is a kind of innuendo,
1392
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:54,900
and also it's part
of an extended possibility.
1393
01:13:54,933 --> 01:13:57,333
What I mean by that is that
1394
01:13:57,366 --> 01:13:59,866
if we are in the rhythm
of the poem,
1395
01:13:59,900 --> 01:14:05,033
we are in the emotional
architecture of a poem,
1396
01:14:05,066 --> 01:14:11,700
and language says things
that are direct
1397
01:14:11,733 --> 01:14:15,400
but also insinuation,
1398
01:14:15,433 --> 01:14:19,633
the same as
a blues singer would.
1399
01:14:19,666 --> 01:14:21,800
I think that's what it is.
1400
01:14:21,833 --> 01:14:22,900
It really takes me back
1401
01:14:22,933 --> 01:14:27,033
to the essence of the blues,
1402
01:14:27,066 --> 01:14:30,200
insinuation, daring.
1403
01:14:30,233 --> 01:14:32,466
You mean to allow silence?
1404
01:14:32,500 --> 01:14:37,133
Simplicity say that also
in a way morphs
1405
01:14:37,166 --> 01:14:43,033
into a more complex
emotional place.
1406
01:15:30,666 --> 01:15:33,766
Got your library card?
1407
01:15:43,500 --> 01:15:44,466
Yeah.
1408
01:15:44,500 --> 01:15:46,233
Okay, so you want
to take these pictures
1409
01:15:46,266 --> 01:15:49,633
and save it in here?
Uh-huh, but...
1410
01:15:49,666 --> 01:15:51,333
Not all the one.
1411
01:15:51,366 --> 01:15:53,900
This... This here is on
the memory card here.
1412
01:15:53,933 --> 01:15:56,800
Yes. You want to transfer
it to here, correct?
1413
01:15:56,833 --> 01:15:58,666
But, but I want first to save.
1414
01:15:58,700 --> 01:16:02,433
Well, this is why you have
to hold on "Control," you see?
1415
01:16:02,466 --> 01:16:03,966
I'm going to show you example.
1416
01:16:09,366 --> 01:16:11,433
So once that gets to 100%,
1417
01:16:11,466 --> 01:16:13,933
then call me back over,
and we can take a look.
1418
01:16:13,966 --> 01:16:15,200
100% to finish it?
1419
01:16:15,233 --> 01:16:18,266
Yeah, 100% is
finished downloading,
1420
01:16:18,300 --> 01:16:20,866
and then we do installing.
1421
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,366
Go back to "Home."
1422
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:33,400
Huh?
1423
01:16:33,433 --> 01:16:35,433
Home. Home?
1424
01:16:35,466 --> 01:16:37,666
Home, yeah, this, yeah.
1425
01:17:11,133 --> 01:17:12,700
This year's supply,
I'd say about 22.
1426
01:17:26,066 --> 01:17:27,176
Now, have you worked
with the book,
1427
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:28,433
the regular-sized braille yet?
1428
01:17:28,466 --> 01:17:30,500
So we're going to start
on this first...
1429
01:17:30,533 --> 01:17:32,800
this first page that
has A through E on it.
1430
01:17:32,833 --> 01:17:34,566
So go ahead
and check out the page.
1431
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,166
Are you lefty or righty?
1432
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,566
Um, righty.
1433
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,233
You're right-handed? Mm-hmm.
1434
01:17:39,266 --> 01:17:41,733
Okay, it's good to hold,
to keep it...
1435
01:17:41,766 --> 01:17:43,333
Straight? ...straight though.
1436
01:17:43,366 --> 01:17:45,366
Uh-huh.
Most people that read braille
1437
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,109
end up reading with
a combination of both hands.
1438
01:17:47,133 --> 01:17:48,200
Okay.
1439
01:17:48,233 --> 01:17:49,966
So your right hand
will be your leader,
1440
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,342
- but sometimes your left hand will
kind of keep your place. Okay.
1441
01:17:53,366 --> 01:17:55,476
That's okay to check out
with both hands, if you want.
1442
01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:57,166
E?
1443
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:58,800
Hmm.. No, that's the D.
1444
01:17:58,833 --> 01:18:01,366
Before you try to comprehend,
1445
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,766
just practice moving your hand
in a straight line
1446
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,000
and following.
1447
01:18:05,033 --> 01:18:10,100
This is how
a braille-reading hand moves.
1448
01:18:10,133 --> 01:18:13,200
So these lines
that are kind of together,
1449
01:18:13,233 --> 01:18:15,966
these little kinds of
almost railroad tracks,
1450
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,500
are there to help you kind of
pattern and figure out
1451
01:18:18,533 --> 01:18:23,200
how to move in a fluid,
straight, smooth way.
1452
01:18:23,233 --> 01:18:26,800
A lot of people will read
with a couple of fingers.
1453
01:18:26,833 --> 01:18:28,566
I noticed that you for right now
1454
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,366
are mostly reading
with your middle finger,
1455
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,300
and you want to make sure that
this finger gets in there, too,
1456
01:18:33,333 --> 01:18:35,733
because your forefinger
has a lot of sensitivity,
1457
01:18:35,766 --> 01:18:38,066
and a lot of people read
with their forefinger
1458
01:18:38,100 --> 01:18:40,300
and then middle finger
kind of together.
1459
01:18:40,333 --> 01:18:42,033
Okay.
1460
01:18:42,066 --> 01:18:45,300
When your one hand finds the
next line for the other hand
1461
01:18:45,333 --> 01:18:46,866
is called tracking.
1462
01:18:48,066 --> 01:18:50,666
X, X, X, X.
1463
01:18:50,700 --> 01:18:53,700
Z, Z, Z, Z.
1464
01:18:53,733 --> 01:18:55,200
Now make sure that you...
1465
01:18:59,500 --> 01:19:01,333
Do like this or with your hand,
1466
01:19:01,366 --> 01:19:02,866
wherever you can, okay?
1467
01:19:04,833 --> 01:19:11,100
C... okay, and... what?
1468
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,366
Okay, and...
1469
01:19:15,300 --> 01:19:16,933
You've got "Why not."
1470
01:19:16,966 --> 01:19:19,866
So N is the end.
1471
01:19:22,166 --> 01:19:23,933
One position is different.
1472
01:19:23,966 --> 01:19:27,933
You know, one is horizontal
and other one vertical.
1473
01:19:27,966 --> 01:19:29,800
- You got it?
- Yeah, I'm writing...
1474
01:19:29,833 --> 01:19:31,700
And now I'm going
to do the other one.
1475
01:19:37,700 --> 01:19:39,233
I have some statistics here
1476
01:19:39,266 --> 01:19:41,666
on how many people
with disabilities there are.
1477
01:19:41,700 --> 01:19:42,933
This is according
1478
01:19:42,966 --> 01:19:44,900
to the 2014 U.S. Census.
1479
01:19:44,933 --> 01:19:46,300
There are roughly
1480
01:19:46,333 --> 01:19:51,633
eight million people
uh, in New York City in general,
1481
01:19:51,666 --> 01:19:55,233
and about 900,000
of those people
1482
01:19:55,266 --> 01:19:56,733
are people with disabilities.
1483
01:19:56,766 --> 01:19:59,333
So that's about 11%.
1484
01:19:59,366 --> 01:20:02,166
I'm the housing coordinator,
and I do answer
1485
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:03,500
a lot of 311 calls
1486
01:20:03,533 --> 01:20:05,866
regarding housing
for people with disabilities.
1487
01:20:05,900 --> 01:20:07,133
For low-income housing,
1488
01:20:07,166 --> 01:20:08,576
there is the New York City
Housing Authority,
1489
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,066
which is known to have
a very long waiting list.
1490
01:20:11,100 --> 01:20:14,733
Fortunately, that is not
the only option.
1491
01:20:14,766 --> 01:20:15,966
There are other options.
1492
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:17,509
There are a few different
vouchers available.
1493
01:20:17,533 --> 01:20:21,033
One is the Medicaid
Waiver Program,
1494
01:20:21,066 --> 01:20:23,566
and that's for people
with physical disabilities,
1495
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:24,876
and it does include
things like home care
1496
01:20:24,900 --> 01:20:26,866
and Meals on Wheels
1497
01:20:26,900 --> 01:20:28,166
and subsidized housing.
1498
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,133
If you have a voucher
that covers $1,100,
1499
01:20:31,166 --> 01:20:34,233
and you go find an apartment,
1500
01:20:34,266 --> 01:20:37,933
and the apartment
is within that range, right?
1501
01:20:37,966 --> 01:20:41,466
It's $1,000
or $1,100 rent a month,
1502
01:20:41,500 --> 01:20:45,200
uh, that means that
you meet the criteria,
1503
01:20:45,233 --> 01:20:49,633
you meet the income requirement
for that apartment,
1504
01:20:49,666 --> 01:20:52,876
- and if the landlord tells
you, "We don't take vouchers,"
1505
01:20:52,900 --> 01:20:55,500
That's considered
discrimination.
1506
01:20:55,533 --> 01:20:58,466
And if that, you know,
if that does happen,
1507
01:20:58,500 --> 01:21:00,633
there is an agency
that can help you out with that.
1508
01:21:00,666 --> 01:21:02,433
That's called
the City Commission
1509
01:21:02,466 --> 01:21:03,666
on Human Rights.
1510
01:21:03,700 --> 01:21:07,300
It's always good to know
your rights.
1511
01:21:07,333 --> 01:21:09,600
Another housing opportunity
is the housing lotteries
1512
01:21:09,633 --> 01:21:11,266
or affordable housing.
1513
01:21:11,300 --> 01:21:13,076
There is a difference
between affordable housing
1514
01:21:13,100 --> 01:21:14,500
and low-income housing.
1515
01:21:14,533 --> 01:21:16,666
Most people don't realize that.
1516
01:21:16,700 --> 01:21:19,466
So affordable housing is for,
you know,
1517
01:21:19,500 --> 01:21:20,733
it includes low income,
1518
01:21:20,766 --> 01:21:22,766
but it also includes, you know,
1519
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,300
middle class
and working families as well.
1520
01:21:25,333 --> 01:21:27,233
Another agency
that we do work with,
1521
01:21:27,266 --> 01:21:29,000
Housing Preservation
and Development.
1522
01:21:29,033 --> 01:21:31,300
Basically they are working
with developers
1523
01:21:31,333 --> 01:21:32,800
who are building new buildings
1524
01:21:32,833 --> 01:21:35,500
or reconstructing
existing buildings,
1525
01:21:35,533 --> 01:21:38,433
and each building
has its own lottery.
1526
01:21:38,466 --> 01:21:41,533
So each building
will have its own application,
1527
01:21:41,566 --> 01:21:43,766
and in each lottery,
1528
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:48,233
five percent of the apartments
are set aside
1529
01:21:48,266 --> 01:21:50,800
for people
with mobility disabilities,
1530
01:21:50,833 --> 01:21:52,866
and two percent are set aside
1531
01:21:52,900 --> 01:21:56,066
for people with visual
and hearing disabilities.
1532
01:21:56,100 --> 01:21:59,466
Finding stable housing
is pretty hard to do,
1533
01:21:59,500 --> 01:22:03,266
especially in the affordable
and low-income markets.
1534
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,333
Oh, yeah, let's do it.
1535
01:22:22,900 --> 01:22:28,300
In 2014 we launched an
extensive strategic plan,
1536
01:22:28,333 --> 01:22:31,433
but most importantly,
we began to fill the basket
1537
01:22:31,466 --> 01:22:34,000
about what we were going
to put here,
1538
01:22:34,033 --> 01:22:35,266
the Mid-Manhattan Library
1539
01:22:35,300 --> 01:22:39,200
as well as
in the Schwarzman Building.
1540
01:22:39,233 --> 01:22:45,000
We engaged, um, in a very public
engagement campaign
1541
01:22:45,033 --> 01:22:46,733
around our plans.
1542
01:22:46,766 --> 01:22:49,766
These were just concepts
that we had come up with.
1543
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:51,866
We had public meetings,
1544
01:22:51,900 --> 01:22:54,900
we had numerous
media opportunities,
1545
01:22:54,933 --> 01:22:57,833
um, thanks to Ken and his staff.
1546
01:22:57,866 --> 01:23:02,100
We met with stakeholders,
we met with our board,
1547
01:23:02,133 --> 01:23:04,166
we met with anybody
who would listen to us.
1548
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:05,433
The goals, then,
1549
01:23:05,466 --> 01:23:08,566
were really to keep our
constituents informed,
1550
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,066
which I think we did;
1551
01:23:10,100 --> 01:23:13,833
to ensure that we got
important feedback
1552
01:23:13,866 --> 01:23:15,666
as to which should go where
1553
01:23:15,700 --> 01:23:17,400
and what should go
in what buildings,
1554
01:23:17,433 --> 01:23:21,400
and what programs and projects
that we should really focus on.
1555
01:23:21,433 --> 01:23:25,833
And, lastly, the thing that
I am the most proud about is...
1556
01:23:25,866 --> 01:23:27,300
And I think everybody
in this room
1557
01:23:27,333 --> 01:23:30,066
or anybody affiliated with the
library should be proud about...
1558
01:23:30,100 --> 01:23:32,666
Is that we were
maintaining transparency
1559
01:23:32,700 --> 01:23:34,233
during this process.
1560
01:23:34,266 --> 01:23:36,900
Um, we were communicating
as best we could;
1561
01:23:36,933 --> 01:23:39,733
whatever we knew,
we were letting people know.
1562
01:23:39,766 --> 01:23:41,276
Now in October,
it's actually November,
1563
01:23:41,300 --> 01:23:44,033
we started a new phase
of this campaign.
1564
01:23:44,066 --> 01:23:49,833
And, um, it's to introduce the
really spectacular architects
1565
01:23:49,866 --> 01:23:52,283
that we spent months, um,
trying to get to this point
1566
01:23:52,284 --> 01:23:54,700
that we spent months, um,
trying to get to this point
1567
01:23:54,733 --> 01:23:57,033
and to pick a team like this
1568
01:23:57,066 --> 01:24:01,000
to work on this iconic project
for New York City.
1569
01:24:01,033 --> 01:24:04,133
Um, and in this next round,
1570
01:24:04,166 --> 01:24:08,933
there will be an enormous amount
again of public engagement,
1571
01:24:08,966 --> 01:24:13,233
and we'll include even more
substantive conversations.
1572
01:24:13,266 --> 01:24:15,600
And as Tony noted,
1573
01:24:15,633 --> 01:24:19,466
um, most importantly it's
to start the conversation here,
1574
01:24:19,500 --> 01:24:22,066
with our staff
and here at the library.
1575
01:24:22,100 --> 01:24:25,866
So, um, let me just explain
how we got to this point
1576
01:24:25,900 --> 01:24:29,466
with these two wonderful
architecture firms.
1577
01:24:29,500 --> 01:24:31,200
Um, I think as everybody knows,
1578
01:24:31,233 --> 01:24:33,866
we went through an RFQ
and an RFP process,
1579
01:24:33,900 --> 01:24:37,700
and working
with a working group,
1580
01:24:37,733 --> 01:24:40,266
which included members
of the board of directors
1581
01:24:40,300 --> 01:24:43,033
as well as senior staff
here at the library,
1582
01:24:43,066 --> 01:24:48,566
um, we arrived
at, um, uh, two semi-finalists
1583
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,133
and ended up with
one finalist group.
1584
01:24:51,166 --> 01:24:53,666
Francine, you, having worked
1585
01:24:53,700 --> 01:24:56,133
in libraries all over the world,
1586
01:24:56,166 --> 01:24:57,633
maybe you can give us a sense
1587
01:24:57,666 --> 01:25:01,500
of what you think the futures
of libraries are going to be,
1588
01:25:01,533 --> 01:25:03,566
both in the physical sense
1589
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:06,966
and in the sense of libraries
as institutions.
1590
01:25:09,133 --> 01:25:11,000
First of all, for me,
1591
01:25:11,033 --> 01:25:12,283
the
1592
01:25:12,284 --> 01:25:13,533
library does not exist.
1593
01:25:13,566 --> 01:25:15,566
Every library, it's my
experience, is different.
1594
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,033
It's totally different
1595
01:25:17,066 --> 01:25:18,733
if you're thinking
1596
01:25:18,766 --> 01:25:20,533
of a circulating library
in the Netherlands.
1597
01:25:20,566 --> 01:25:21,866
There's even already
a difference
1598
01:25:21,900 --> 01:25:24,633
between if you make one
in Amsterdam and in Rotterdam,
1599
01:25:24,666 --> 01:25:27,466
there's even a bigger difference
if you make one in Scandinavia
1600
01:25:27,500 --> 01:25:30,466
or we also worked
on the library in Athens.
1601
01:25:30,500 --> 01:25:31,933
For instance, in Europe,
1602
01:25:31,966 --> 01:25:35,066
the northern part of Europe
is more books
1603
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:39,366
and the southern part of Europe
is almost no books.
1604
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:40,700
Um...
1605
01:25:40,733 --> 01:25:42,200
One maybe very important thing...
1606
01:25:42,233 --> 01:25:44,000
I'm just now improvising...
1607
01:25:44,033 --> 01:25:47,433
That for me libraries
are not about books,
1608
01:25:47,466 --> 01:25:50,800
it's a lot of people think that
it's a storage space for books.
1609
01:25:50,833 --> 01:25:52,933
No, libraries are about people
1610
01:25:52,966 --> 01:25:56,600
who want to get knowledge
to them,
1611
01:25:56,633 --> 01:25:58,733
and that can be done by books,
1612
01:25:58,766 --> 01:26:03,466
it can be done
by many other ways.
1613
01:26:03,500 --> 01:26:05,166
It's very much about learning,
1614
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:06,733
it's about long-life learning,
1615
01:26:06,766 --> 01:26:09,300
it's about the whole generation.
1616
01:26:09,333 --> 01:26:14,233
And so libraries are,
they're not only...
1617
01:26:14,266 --> 01:26:16,200
there are cultural importance,
1618
01:26:16,233 --> 01:26:18,933
but they also very much
economically important.
1619
01:26:18,966 --> 01:26:21,766
It has... here it's
a little bit different,
1620
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,633
but, like, in Europe,
it's always public money,
1621
01:26:24,666 --> 01:26:30,000
and it's public money that you
invest in your own population.
1622
01:26:30,033 --> 01:26:31,733
Uh, so it's very much important
1623
01:26:31,766 --> 01:26:35,000
that you give it back
to the public.
1624
01:26:35,033 --> 01:26:36,666
And, um, yeah, what else?
1625
01:26:36,700 --> 01:26:39,000
I guess I could give a whole
lecture about libraries.
1626
01:26:39,033 --> 01:26:41,600
Um, I think what is
maybe also important,
1627
01:26:41,633 --> 01:26:43,833
that as a library,
1628
01:26:43,866 --> 01:26:46,700
reflects what is necessary
in that city...
1629
01:26:46,733 --> 01:26:49,433
It's a research library,
it's also an archive.
1630
01:26:49,466 --> 01:26:53,109
- It's a city archive, it's
the circulating library.
1631
01:26:53,133 --> 01:26:56,333
I'm dreaming of, especially
if I think of this building,
1632
01:26:56,366 --> 01:26:58,900
about many different
atmospheres,
1633
01:26:58,933 --> 01:27:00,966
of different ways of studying,
1634
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:05,300
of different, very important,
uh...
1635
01:27:05,333 --> 01:27:09,566
maybe when I did design
the... the...
1636
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,233
famous library we did in Delft,
1637
01:27:11,266 --> 01:27:13,533
that's where our office
is based.
1638
01:27:13,566 --> 01:27:16,466
It's in a library for the
technical university in Delft,
1639
01:27:16,500 --> 01:27:19,666
and that was opened in 1995.
1640
01:27:19,700 --> 01:27:22,233
And we, when we did the design
in 1991,
1641
01:27:22,266 --> 01:27:24,333
they already told me, "Francine,
1642
01:27:24,366 --> 01:27:27,166
you don't need libraries anymore
in the future."
1643
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:30,100
And that's in a way still a kind
of opinion we hear a lot.
1644
01:27:30,133 --> 01:27:32,166
Do you hear it a lot?
1645
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,433
It's totally because people,
they still think of libraries
1646
01:27:35,466 --> 01:27:37,600
about a storage space of books,
1647
01:27:37,633 --> 01:27:40,900
or people think of the library
when they were a kid.
1648
01:27:40,933 --> 01:27:42,533
A lot of people
have no awareness
1649
01:27:42,566 --> 01:27:46,033
what is happening
in the nowadays libraries
1650
01:27:46,066 --> 01:27:47,966
and how necessary they are.
1651
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:49,600
What else, do you want?
1652
01:27:49,633 --> 01:27:50,833
Maybe I should just stop.
1653
01:27:50,866 --> 01:27:52,300
Okay.
1654
01:27:52,333 --> 01:27:54,700
But I have a lot of ideas
about libraries.
1655
01:30:53,100 --> 01:30:55,800
Okay.
1656
01:31:00,933 --> 01:31:03,466
What will the catalog...
1657
01:31:03,500 --> 01:31:06,000
That will probably be the center
of the catalog...
1658
01:31:06,033 --> 01:31:08,766
We've got lovely essays...
1659
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,300
We've got some... in there.
1660
01:31:16,566 --> 01:31:19,300
Plus, we only got halfway...
1661
01:31:26,833 --> 01:31:29,500
That needs to be,
like, life-sized.
1662
01:31:29,533 --> 01:31:32,100
Really?
1663
01:31:32,133 --> 01:31:35,366
I almost wanted to be...
1664
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,666
It's okay, you got...?
1665
01:31:37,700 --> 01:31:41,133
No problem.
1666
01:31:43,933 --> 01:31:46,466
All right...
1667
01:31:46,500 --> 01:31:49,033
Reminds me of a couple of
paintings that was done
1668
01:31:49,066 --> 01:31:51,566
back in orientalism.
1669
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,100
I don't know if you know what
that is, orientalism?
1670
01:31:54,133 --> 01:31:56,666
Yes.
1671
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,133
Eh... in chapter one
1672
01:32:31,166 --> 01:32:33,000
of Alice's Adventures
1673
01:32:33,001 --> 01:32:34,833
in Wonderland, um,
1674
01:32:34,866 --> 01:32:41,266
she is being recited a story
by her elder sister, right?
1675
01:32:41,300 --> 01:32:43,733
Um...
1676
01:32:43,766 --> 01:32:46,133
And it's boring.
1677
01:32:46,166 --> 01:32:49,100
She, she doesn't like the story,
1678
01:32:49,133 --> 01:32:51,833
and, and this is this thing
that encourages her
1679
01:32:51,834 --> 01:32:54,533
and, and this is this thing
that encourages her
1680
01:32:54,566 --> 01:32:58,066
and sets off this whole journey
into, into fantasy,
1681
01:32:58,100 --> 01:33:02,733
and I found it so interesting,
thinking about that
1682
01:33:02,766 --> 01:33:07,000
and realizing kind of
what my, my journey has been,
1683
01:33:07,033 --> 01:33:10,233
um, which is essentially
the opposite of that.
1684
01:33:10,266 --> 01:33:14,333
It's trying to take stories
and make them not boring.
1685
01:33:14,366 --> 01:33:17,533
Um, it's trying to take
traditional literature
1686
01:33:17,566 --> 01:33:20,800
and traditional, like,
like, ideas of what it means
1687
01:33:20,833 --> 01:33:25,333
to be intellectual
and academic and educated...
1688
01:33:28,700 --> 01:33:32,233
and how it was
the actual boredom
1689
01:33:32,266 --> 01:33:36,000
that pushed Alice into this
new world of chasing fantasy.
1690
01:33:36,033 --> 01:33:39,100
I feel so similar to that
so, so frequently.
1691
01:33:39,133 --> 01:33:40,833
I, I read these things,
1692
01:33:40,866 --> 01:33:45,900
and I see all these brilliant,
brilliant people in this world
1693
01:33:45,933 --> 01:33:50,266
who are, are... feel the need
to package their ideas
1694
01:33:50,300 --> 01:33:52,200
and their intellect
1695
01:33:52,233 --> 01:33:56,333
and, in this stringent
and traditional way,
1696
01:33:56,366 --> 01:34:00,666
because that's the way
that we're used to digesting it.
1697
01:34:00,700 --> 01:34:04,100
So I hope that one of the things
1698
01:34:04,133 --> 01:34:06,400
that you take from this program
1699
01:34:06,433 --> 01:34:08,700
is that intellect and academia
1700
01:34:08,733 --> 01:34:12,333
and literature
does not have to be highbrow.
1701
01:34:12,366 --> 01:34:13,766
It does not have to be elitist.
1702
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:19,500
Um, it can develop
in a organic and genuine way.
1703
01:34:19,533 --> 01:34:24,066
So I'm going
to read this last piece, um.
1704
01:34:24,100 --> 01:34:29,900
"When this man enters a room
1705
01:34:29,933 --> 01:34:33,433
"He wishes to keep his chin up
1706
01:34:33,466 --> 01:34:38,033
"To carry with him
a continental smile
1707
01:34:38,066 --> 01:34:39,933
"And a heart
1708
01:34:39,966 --> 01:34:44,366
"A heart that lifts the floor
like a splintering brass chorus
1709
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:48,800
"Of drums and saxophones,
Questlove and Coltrane
1710
01:34:48,833 --> 01:34:51,200
"marching to Gettysburg
at my feet
1711
01:34:51,233 --> 01:34:54,866
"With shotgun improvs
that grow into rock steady
1712
01:34:54,900 --> 01:34:58,266
"Playing like a humble bass line
for the beautiful,
1713
01:34:58,300 --> 01:35:00,833
"the gorgeous shootouts
that ring out
1714
01:35:00,866 --> 01:35:03,966
"throughout old Chicago
jazz clubs
1715
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,566
"and smoky New Orleans hallways.
1716
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,733
"He is a man.
1717
01:35:08,766 --> 01:35:12,400
"He is a man because he claims
he's claimed his identity
1718
01:35:12,433 --> 01:35:14,900
"Yet still walks
with the melancholy whisper
1719
01:35:14,933 --> 01:35:17,066
"Of everything mama
couldn't teach him,
1720
01:35:17,100 --> 01:35:18,933
"Preacher couldn't preach to him
1721
01:35:18,966 --> 01:35:23,166
"On Fridays when the bar ends,
the clouds unclench their fists,
1722
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:26,833
"I walk home, empty pack of
Marlboros in my back pocket.
1723
01:35:26,866 --> 01:35:29,666
"Girl I don't know so well,
under my left arm
1724
01:35:29,700 --> 01:35:31,866
"Laughing too damn loudly.
1725
01:35:31,900 --> 01:35:36,066
"I sit under a poster of Hendrix
with Mona Lisa-like eyes
1726
01:35:36,100 --> 01:35:38,100
"that follow me wherever I go
1727
01:35:38,133 --> 01:35:43,600
"And I wonder what is in a man.
1728
01:35:43,633 --> 01:35:46,333
"It wasn't always
like that, though.
1729
01:35:46,366 --> 01:35:51,100
"Before the intrigue of standing
tall swallowed my skin
1730
01:35:51,133 --> 01:35:53,742
- "Every boy had a smiling
father to dribble him
1731
01:35:53,766 --> 01:35:55,933
"Every watch could stop
if you please
1732
01:35:55,966 --> 01:35:59,100
"Every set of five fingers
had a warm twin that fit
1733
01:35:59,133 --> 01:36:02,466
"But since then, I spent too
many Sundays with the sun
1734
01:36:02,500 --> 01:36:04,166
"And girls just looking for
1735
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:06,266
"Thought I had a good one once
1736
01:36:06,300 --> 01:36:08,400
"But now all I do
is write black love poems
1737
01:36:08,433 --> 01:36:11,933
"The only thing she hates
more than me are mirrors
1738
01:36:11,966 --> 01:36:14,900
"The only thing I hate more
than love is not being in it
1739
01:36:14,933 --> 01:36:18,033
"Call it crystal eyed
or young of me to say
1740
01:36:18,066 --> 01:36:20,133
"But some days
I wake up wondering
1741
01:36:20,166 --> 01:36:22,766
"Where have all
the trumpets gone?
1742
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:26,300
"What makes a man, and what have
they done with Motown's tongue?
1743
01:36:26,333 --> 01:36:28,466
"When did the sound
of my own breath
1744
01:36:28,500 --> 01:36:31,333
"Become not enough music
to get me through the night
1745
01:36:31,366 --> 01:36:34,233
"And why, why can't we let
ourselves go in the nighttime
1746
01:36:34,266 --> 01:36:36,700
"Without it up in the morning,
1747
01:36:36,733 --> 01:36:38,000
"In the morning.
1748
01:36:38,033 --> 01:36:39,533
"In the morning, wake me up
1749
01:36:39,566 --> 01:36:43,500
"Like we died in each others'
arms 12 hours prior
1750
01:36:43,533 --> 01:36:46,900
"And had been planning to do so
on breath cue
1751
01:36:46,933 --> 01:36:49,700
"From the first time my lips
cuddled your forehead
1752
01:36:49,733 --> 01:36:50,800
"I know.
1753
01:36:53,500 --> 01:36:59,133
"I know my carpet may not taste
as sweet as the golden gates
1754
01:36:59,166 --> 01:37:00,900
"But you slept here last night
1755
01:37:00,933 --> 01:37:03,366
"And somewhere between the
Bankers Club and the eight ball
1756
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:07,433
"from yesterday, I was reminded
that a broken heart bleeds red
1757
01:37:07,466 --> 01:37:11,666
"So now my past, my insides got
you looking like a fresh murder
1758
01:37:11,700 --> 01:37:17,766
"Can I be a man
and clean that up for you?
1759
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:21,033
"Could you,
could you love me just as hard
1760
01:37:21,066 --> 01:37:24,400
"if I'd rather talk some out?
1761
01:37:24,433 --> 01:37:28,066
"If, if I'd rather,
1762
01:37:28,100 --> 01:37:32,633
"If I'd rather picket fence
my tongue quiet and slow
1763
01:37:32,666 --> 01:37:37,866
"like a stream across the whole
navy Van Gogh of your body
1764
01:37:37,900 --> 01:37:41,500
"Cheek to back in a curve
of your thigh and I disappear
1765
01:37:41,533 --> 01:37:44,200
"And there's no more before,
no more after,
1766
01:37:44,233 --> 01:37:46,433
"Just a screaming white light
1767
01:37:46,466 --> 01:37:48,500
"Rattling the inside
of your skull
1768
01:37:48,533 --> 01:37:52,833
"Like a drug-addicted prisoner
and a man, a man,
1769
01:37:52,866 --> 01:37:56,100
"I swear to God, I'm a man
1770
01:37:56,133 --> 01:37:59,066
"standing tall,
1771
01:37:59,100 --> 01:38:01,433
"Looking down over his work
1772
01:38:01,466 --> 01:38:02,966
Like a lost diamond."
1773
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:06,133
Thank you so much.
1774
01:38:20,500 --> 01:38:22,666
The way that my staff can help,
1775
01:38:22,700 --> 01:38:24,866
in addition
to providing direct help,
1776
01:38:24,900 --> 01:38:26,576
the government
and community affairs office,
1777
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:29,300
we can also provide,
you know, guidance, possibly.
1778
01:38:29,333 --> 01:38:31,109
You know, as you're navigating
through government,
1779
01:38:31,133 --> 01:38:33,366
many of you
may not have done that
1780
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:35,333
as intimately
as you're doing it now.
1781
01:38:35,366 --> 01:38:36,376
You may have a question about
1782
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:38,700
you know, an agency
1783
01:38:38,733 --> 01:38:41,800
or who these other agencies
are interacting with,
1784
01:38:41,833 --> 01:38:44,466
or perhaps, you know,
the mayor's agenda
1785
01:38:44,500 --> 01:38:46,433
or the speaker's agenda
or the governor's agenda,
1786
01:38:46,466 --> 01:38:48,900
or things that are helping you
1787
01:38:48,933 --> 01:38:51,733
to navigate through the agencies
at the federal level.
1788
01:38:51,766 --> 01:38:54,142
- So we can help with all of that.
- So we can help with all of that.
1789
01:38:54,166 --> 01:38:55,600
So I thought it would be good...
1790
01:38:55,633 --> 01:38:56,566
The other thing
we'll be doing is,
1791
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:58,933
I will, I or a member of my team
1792
01:38:58,966 --> 01:39:00,566
will be joining your biweeklies
1793
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:03,333
Yep... just to hear from you
1794
01:39:03,366 --> 01:39:05,166
what's happening,
1795
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:07,200
and if there are any,
you know, new initiatives
1796
01:39:07,233 --> 01:39:08,400
that we should be aware of
1797
01:39:08,433 --> 01:39:09,942
or if there are
any ongoing initiatives,
1798
01:39:09,966 --> 01:39:12,300
just for you to give us updates
on those as well.
1799
01:39:12,333 --> 01:39:13,600
We've got to make sure that
1800
01:39:13,633 --> 01:39:16,200
we're bringing
our Government Affairs with us
1801
01:39:16,233 --> 01:39:18,133
so that they understand
where we might be able
1802
01:39:18,166 --> 01:39:21,200
to plug into those government
relationships, right?
1803
01:39:21,233 --> 01:39:22,400
So we need to do both.
1804
01:39:22,433 --> 01:39:23,966
Off the top of my head,
1805
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:25,342
Christopher mentioned
our meeting this week
1806
01:39:25,366 --> 01:39:26,600
with the Department of Health.
1807
01:39:26,633 --> 01:39:27,900
As you all know,
1808
01:39:27,933 --> 01:39:29,733
the First Lady's
mental health initiative.
1809
01:39:29,766 --> 01:39:32,300
We're trying to see
how we can help them
1810
01:39:32,333 --> 01:39:33,866
move that agenda along.
1811
01:39:33,900 --> 01:39:36,800
There are a lot of ways that
we can provide help to the city.
1812
01:39:36,833 --> 01:39:39,933
A, you know,
we have infrastructure
1813
01:39:39,966 --> 01:39:41,400
in every neighborhood
in the city,
1814
01:39:41,433 --> 01:39:43,700
so we can provide space
for them to conduct meetings.
1815
01:39:43,733 --> 01:39:45,042
We can also help them
get the word out
1816
01:39:45,066 --> 01:39:46,300
on some of these initiatives
1817
01:39:46,333 --> 01:39:48,300
and possibly
our programming can align
1818
01:39:48,333 --> 01:39:50,533
with what they're trying
to achieve as well.
1819
01:39:50,566 --> 01:39:51,966
Minority women-owned businesses.
1820
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:54,900
We're working with the city
on this as well,
1821
01:39:54,933 --> 01:39:56,533
to track, to do a better job
1822
01:39:56,566 --> 01:39:59,966
of tracking, um, you know,
who we partner with,
1823
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,900
who we do business with.
1824
01:40:01,933 --> 01:40:04,100
So that's happening right now.
1825
01:40:04,133 --> 01:40:07,333
IDNYC is ongoing, as we know.
1826
01:40:07,366 --> 01:40:10,000
The city is so happy
with our participation
1827
01:40:10,033 --> 01:40:11,566
under the IDNYC programming,
1828
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:14,700
they've asked us
to provide pop-up sites,
1829
01:40:14,733 --> 01:40:16,376
so some of you are involved
with that as well.
1830
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:18,700
Christopher knows
about this as well.
1831
01:40:18,733 --> 01:40:20,500
Uh, the mayor's
Office of Immigrant Affairs,
1832
01:40:20,533 --> 01:40:22,533
I mean, New Americans Corners.
1833
01:40:22,566 --> 01:40:23,876
We set those up last those up
last year in all the branches
1834
01:40:23,900 --> 01:40:25,800
and the city is thinking
about ways
1835
01:40:25,833 --> 01:40:28,166
that they can improve
on those services
1836
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:29,633
to the immigrant population
1837
01:40:29,666 --> 01:40:31,742
and one of the ways that they're
looking to do that right now
1838
01:40:31,766 --> 01:40:36,066
is to possibly provide
legal services
1839
01:40:36,100 --> 01:40:38,500
in public spaces in the city,
including libraries.
1840
01:40:38,533 --> 01:40:39,500
So we're in conversations
1841
01:40:39,533 --> 01:40:40,966
with the city on that as well.
1842
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:42,076
Libraries have always been
this adjunct...
1843
01:40:42,100 --> 01:40:44,200
Right. to the education system
1844
01:40:44,233 --> 01:40:45,966
in the city.
1845
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:47,766
There are 127 city agencies.
1846
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:50,266
I'm sure if we were
to go through a list,
1847
01:40:50,300 --> 01:40:53,300
we probably do business
with 30 or 40 of them.
1848
01:40:53,333 --> 01:40:56,700
We are the greatest example of
a public-private partnership
1849
01:40:56,733 --> 01:40:58,233
and on that public side, I mean,
1850
01:40:58,266 --> 01:41:00,600
we interact deeply
on a daily basis,
1851
01:41:00,633 --> 01:41:03,200
and it really is, uh,
it's a good idea for us
1852
01:41:03,233 --> 01:41:05,000
to track that as best we can.
1853
01:41:14,033 --> 01:41:16,366
Mr. García Márquez
is mostly remembered
1854
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:18,433
in terms of magical realism,
1855
01:41:18,466 --> 01:41:20,000
being the style
that he worked in.
1856
01:41:20,033 --> 01:41:25,633
You know, the idea of magic
being a part of everyday life,
1857
01:41:25,666 --> 01:41:29,266
extraordinary things happen,
magical things happen,
1858
01:41:29,300 --> 01:41:30,733
spellbinding things happening.
1859
01:41:30,766 --> 01:41:32,366
A big part of his work.
1860
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,600
Several people have said that
Love in the Time of Cholera
1861
01:41:35,633 --> 01:41:37,700
is like the American Huckleberry Finn.
1862
01:41:37,733 --> 01:41:38,833
Everybody knows it.
1863
01:41:38,866 --> 01:41:40,233
Everybody can quote it.
1864
01:41:40,266 --> 01:41:43,033
People, you know, it's
the book everybody reads there.
1865
01:41:43,066 --> 01:41:45,933
Um, so...
1866
01:41:45,966 --> 01:41:47,866
So what do we think of him?
1867
01:41:47,900 --> 01:41:49,633
I did think, as I read it,
1868
01:41:49,666 --> 01:41:51,633
it would have been better
titled,
1869
01:41:51,666 --> 01:41:54,933
Lovemaking in the Time of Cholera,
1870
01:41:54,966 --> 01:41:57,233
because I got a little bored
1871
01:41:57,266 --> 01:41:59,933
with all the in and outs
of all the bed.
1872
01:41:59,966 --> 01:42:02,966
I find the beginning lines
and beginning pages,
1873
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,633
I can tell whether I can get
into a book in a couple days.
1874
01:42:06,666 --> 01:42:08,366
I mean, it's not like,
"Call me Ishmael,"
1875
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:09,866
which is very striking,
1876
01:42:09,900 --> 01:42:12,000
but this one is,
"It was inevitable:
1877
01:42:12,033 --> 01:42:15,733
"the scent of bitter almonds
always reminded him
1878
01:42:15,766 --> 01:42:18,200
of the fate of unrequited love."
1879
01:42:18,233 --> 01:42:20,933
And the theme of almonds and
bitter almonds come through.
1880
01:42:20,966 --> 01:42:24,533
And this is a story
of unrequited love.
1881
01:42:24,566 --> 01:42:28,100
That was only at the end
gets fulfilled
1882
01:42:28,133 --> 01:42:32,400
under the guise of being
a boat with cholera, you know.
1883
01:42:32,433 --> 01:42:34,200
And so I think he's saying,
in a way,
1884
01:42:34,233 --> 01:42:36,500
that passion is a sickness.
1885
01:42:36,533 --> 01:42:39,000
The explanation for Florentino
1886
01:42:39,033 --> 01:42:43,500
was exactly what you said,
unrequited love.
1887
01:42:43,533 --> 01:42:46,600
That kicked off the rest
of his life.
1888
01:42:46,633 --> 01:42:49,266
It affected him
for the rest of his life,
1889
01:42:49,300 --> 01:42:52,033
but he really loved Fermina.
1890
01:42:52,066 --> 01:42:55,200
Yes, he screwed all these women
1891
01:42:55,233 --> 01:42:59,300
in both figurative
and literal sense,
1892
01:42:59,333 --> 01:43:01,633
but he loved Fermina,
1893
01:43:01,666 --> 01:43:03,800
and he would have done
anything for her,
1894
01:43:03,833 --> 01:43:07,433
and I think this is proven
throughout the book.
1895
01:43:07,466 --> 01:43:10,266
Also, he was devastated
1896
01:43:10,300 --> 01:43:12,900
by what happened
to América Vicuña.
1897
01:43:12,933 --> 01:43:15,066
- Right.
- As we all were,
1898
01:43:15,100 --> 01:43:17,033
he was devastated by that.
1899
01:43:17,066 --> 01:43:19,066
He kept on thinking about it.
1900
01:43:19,100 --> 01:43:20,533
He went into the stateroom
1901
01:43:20,566 --> 01:43:24,300
on that final voyage
down the Magdalena,
1902
01:43:24,333 --> 01:43:28,600
and he cried
until there were no tears left.
1903
01:43:28,633 --> 01:43:31,166
He was a human being,
1904
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:34,766
and that's what I think
was so good about this book.
1905
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:39,633
It was surreal in many respects,
magical realism,
1906
01:43:39,666 --> 01:43:42,633
but yet there's tremendous,
1907
01:43:42,666 --> 01:43:46,033
in-depth knowledge
of human nature,
1908
01:43:46,066 --> 01:43:49,000
both good and bad, in this book.
1909
01:43:49,033 --> 01:43:55,666
I felt it so perceptive about
what it means to be married,
1910
01:43:55,700 --> 01:43:57,966
what it means
on your wedding night,
1911
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:02,400
what it means to be a widow,
what it means to get old.
1912
01:44:02,433 --> 01:44:05,833
I mean, I was personally
affected
1913
01:44:05,866 --> 01:44:09,600
by the fact that the whole
second part of the book was,
1914
01:44:09,633 --> 01:44:13,433
"What does it mean
to be in your 70s now?"
1915
01:44:13,466 --> 01:44:19,033
And yet, he keeps on injecting
these surreal elements.
1916
01:44:19,066 --> 01:44:23,566
So I think both characters
were very sympathetic.
1917
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:27,433
They were real.
1918
01:44:27,466 --> 01:44:30,300
It was his imagination
of Fermina that he loved.
1919
01:44:30,333 --> 01:44:32,333
He didn't know her.
1920
01:44:32,366 --> 01:44:34,833
He only knew
what he thought she was,
1921
01:44:34,866 --> 01:44:38,200
and of course we've all had
relationships
1922
01:44:38,233 --> 01:44:39,509
where the person,
the other person,
1923
01:44:39,533 --> 01:44:40,709
thinks we're something
we're not.
1924
01:44:40,733 --> 01:44:41,866
And, I mean,
1925
01:44:41,900 --> 01:44:44,133
it takes a while for you
to finally say, "Look,
1926
01:44:44,166 --> 01:44:46,133
I'm not who you think I am,"
you know?
1927
01:44:46,166 --> 01:44:48,666
It's the...
and I think he had all...
1928
01:44:48,700 --> 01:44:51,666
it was his imagination
that sustained him,
1929
01:44:51,700 --> 01:44:53,000
not the real person.
1930
01:44:53,001 --> 01:44:54,300
Not the real person.
1931
01:44:54,333 --> 01:44:55,609
But I do think love,
you know, what is love?
1932
01:44:55,633 --> 01:44:57,900
It's very hard to figure it out.
1933
01:44:57,933 --> 01:45:00,100
He was in love with love,
1934
01:45:00,133 --> 01:45:02,533
or his fantasy of her, his,
you know, what did you call him?
1935
01:45:02,566 --> 01:45:05,233
His imagination of her,
about her
1936
01:45:05,266 --> 01:45:06,500
was not the real her,
1937
01:45:06,533 --> 01:45:09,133
and, um, and that's
what kept him going.
1938
01:45:09,166 --> 01:45:13,966
That and his constant
promiscuous affairs, affairs,
1939
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:15,366
is what kept him going.
1940
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:17,966
Uh, so he was living
in the world of illusion.
1941
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:19,433
What is love, after all?
1942
01:45:19,466 --> 01:45:22,133
I think that's one of the themes
of the book,
1943
01:45:22,166 --> 01:45:24,233
is that love is really
an illusion,
1944
01:45:24,266 --> 01:45:27,933
and the way that Florentino
loves Fermina
1945
01:45:27,966 --> 01:45:29,266
is no different than, say,
1946
01:45:29,300 --> 01:45:31,233
the way that Romeo falls in love
with Juliet,
1947
01:45:31,266 --> 01:45:34,766
and it's based simply
on a gut reaction in adolescence
1948
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,966
and based on very little else.
1949
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:39,133
The pursuit of love,
1950
01:45:39,166 --> 01:45:40,333
it's just a means to delay
1951
01:45:40,366 --> 01:45:42,533
and avoid the aging process
1952
01:45:42,566 --> 01:45:45,700
and ultimately to avoid death,
if you can,
1953
01:45:45,733 --> 01:45:47,566
as long as you can.
1954
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,200
Both the city
and the library tend
1955
01:46:18,233 --> 01:46:21,200
to view a lot of patron-facing
digital efforts as separate.
1956
01:46:21,233 --> 01:46:23,266
So there's the ITG consideration
1957
01:46:23,300 --> 01:46:26,133
of how much bandwidth
we provide for Wi-Fi.
1958
01:46:26,166 --> 01:46:27,900
There's innovation labs.
1959
01:46:27,933 --> 01:46:29,933
There's TechConnect,
there's the hotspots.
1960
01:46:29,966 --> 01:46:31,066
On the city side,
1961
01:46:31,100 --> 01:46:32,676
there's the Lincoln YC
pay phones projects.
1962
01:46:32,700 --> 01:46:34,300
There's coding in the schools.
1963
01:46:34,333 --> 01:46:36,466
There's a NYCHA hotspot.
1964
01:46:36,500 --> 01:46:41,333
These are all you know,
components of a larger strategy
1965
01:46:41,366 --> 01:46:43,100
around an inclusive
digital city.
1966
01:46:43,133 --> 01:46:44,933
If you tell that richer story,
1967
01:46:44,966 --> 01:46:49,166
it, um, it's more powerful,
because you see the connections,
1968
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:51,000
and, frankly,
from a library perspective,
1969
01:46:51,033 --> 01:46:54,000
it reveals just
how integral we are
1970
01:46:54,033 --> 01:46:55,600
to the digital life of the city,
1971
01:46:55,633 --> 01:46:58,533
in a way that
if you just take it one on one,
1972
01:46:58,566 --> 01:47:00,466
we're sort of less relevant.
1973
01:47:00,500 --> 01:47:01,966
And so that's the other goal
of this.
1974
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,633
Can we help the city understand
the richness
1975
01:47:04,666 --> 01:47:06,000
of these issues,
1976
01:47:06,033 --> 01:47:07,176
so they can understand
the richness of our solution?
1977
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:10,266
Should we have personas
for, like,
1978
01:47:10,300 --> 01:47:11,733
think of different types
of users.
1979
01:47:11,766 --> 01:47:12,866
Yes.
1980
01:47:12,900 --> 01:47:14,666
What does an older adult
need to know
1981
01:47:14,700 --> 01:47:16,333
in order to be able
1982
01:47:16,366 --> 01:47:18,866
to communicate
with their family,
1983
01:47:18,900 --> 01:47:21,866
to not feel isolated,
to stay in touch with the news?
1984
01:47:21,900 --> 01:47:23,833
What does a student
need to know?
1985
01:47:23,866 --> 01:47:27,166
What does a,
right, um... in, in,
1986
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,500
some of that conceptual work
actually doesn't exist
1987
01:47:29,533 --> 01:47:31,366
in the larger
digital literacy space,
1988
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:33,766
but is exactly
the input necessary
1989
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:36,133
for us to then say, "Okay.
1990
01:47:36,166 --> 01:47:37,666
"If that's
where people need to go,
1991
01:47:37,700 --> 01:47:40,166
"where are we best equipped
to help take them
1992
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:41,533
"and how can we partner
1993
01:47:41,566 --> 01:47:43,366
"with the other institutions
around the city
1994
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:45,866
"to sort of collectively have
1995
01:47:45,900 --> 01:47:48,000
a digitally rich environment?"
1996
01:48:58,433 --> 01:48:59,566
I have to say, though,
1997
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:01,733
I think of all the programs,
1998
01:49:01,766 --> 01:49:03,242
I am the most proud
of what we're doing today,
1999
01:49:03,266 --> 01:49:05,566
because I think the mission
of the library
2000
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:09,333
and the mission of our guests
resonate so beautifully.
2001
01:49:09,366 --> 01:49:12,466
We want to share the arts
with all people,
2002
01:49:12,500 --> 01:49:15,000
and this city,
which is so amazing,
2003
01:49:15,033 --> 01:49:18,166
with incredible theater
and incredible theater-makers,
2004
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:21,666
these guests are part
of the reason why
2005
01:49:21,700 --> 01:49:24,600
deaf audiences are able
to experience that.
2006
01:49:24,633 --> 01:49:26,466
Interpreters at theater
2007
01:49:26,500 --> 01:49:29,833
are the red carpet
for deaf audiences
2008
01:49:29,866 --> 01:49:34,000
to have access to what's
being performed onstage.
2009
01:49:34,033 --> 01:49:36,966
Um, we are not performers,
2010
01:49:37,000 --> 01:49:42,300
yet in order
for an audience that is deaf
2011
01:49:42,333 --> 01:49:47,066
to enjoy and cry and laugh
2012
01:49:47,100 --> 01:49:50,133
with everybody else
in the theater,
2013
01:49:50,166 --> 01:49:53,400
they need to understand
what's happening onstage,
2014
01:49:53,433 --> 01:49:58,066
and they need to understand
the emotional life
2015
01:49:58,100 --> 01:50:00,733
of the actors
and the characters,
2016
01:50:00,766 --> 01:50:02,700
the choices that actors
are making,
2017
01:50:02,733 --> 01:50:05,600
and the, um...
2018
01:50:05,633 --> 01:50:07,566
that whole framework
of the play.
2019
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:10,233
So we do study the actors.
2020
01:50:10,266 --> 01:50:12,566
I do study their mannerisms.
2021
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:18,200
I do think about the way
a show is directed and staged.
2022
01:50:18,233 --> 01:50:20,166
I do think about text.
2023
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:23,500
All those pieces come together
2024
01:50:23,533 --> 01:50:25,533
to present a red carpet
to the deaf audience
2025
01:50:25,566 --> 01:50:26,833
and say, "Hey,
2026
01:50:26,866 --> 01:50:29,800
this is the show that
everybody's enjoying."
2027
01:50:29,833 --> 01:50:31,133
And I'm looking at how...
2028
01:50:31,166 --> 01:50:33,233
how the context
is giving meaning.
2029
01:50:33,266 --> 01:50:36,566
I'm looking at
what the intent of the person is
2030
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:40,533
that's hearing, that's speaking
to the deaf person.
2031
01:50:40,566 --> 01:50:45,200
I'm trying to pull out
and parse out all of that
2032
01:50:45,233 --> 01:50:48,066
so I can create
a real communication
2033
01:50:48,100 --> 01:50:50,100
between these two worlds
2034
01:50:50,133 --> 01:50:52,133
that are...
come with different cultures,
2035
01:50:52,166 --> 01:50:53,976
- different backgrounds,
different world understanding.
2036
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:58,700
Sign language is more than just
how your hands move.
2037
01:50:58,733 --> 01:51:01,333
It's this whole
three-dimensional space
2038
01:51:01,366 --> 01:51:02,666
in front of you.
2039
01:51:02,700 --> 01:51:05,233
So it does include our face.
2040
01:51:05,266 --> 01:51:07,466
That's where grammar
will show up a lot of times
2041
01:51:07,500 --> 01:51:10,900
as well as, um...
2042
01:51:10,933 --> 01:51:13,666
affect, mood.
2043
01:51:13,700 --> 01:51:15,733
So it has a dual purpose.
2044
01:51:15,766 --> 01:51:20,700
So I think that we try
to explore that with every play.
2045
01:51:20,733 --> 01:51:22,066
What's the feeling
in every play?
2046
01:51:22,100 --> 01:51:23,333
What's the mood?
2047
01:51:23,366 --> 01:51:24,576
What are the characters doing,
yeah.
2048
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:27,000
One thing that the library has
2049
01:51:27,033 --> 01:51:29,633
that's kind of cool is we have
2050
01:51:29,666 --> 01:51:31,142
the fair copy of the Declaration
of Independence
2051
01:51:31,166 --> 01:51:35,366
that Thomas Jefferson wrote
as a draft
2052
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:38,266
before the final draft went
to the Continental Congress.
2053
01:51:38,300 --> 01:51:40,533
And, um, the big difference is
there's a section that,
2054
01:51:40,566 --> 01:51:42,900
where he's quite negative
about slavery,
2055
01:51:42,933 --> 01:51:44,366
and that was taken out
2056
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:48,600
to win the support of delegates
from some southern colonies.
2057
01:51:48,633 --> 01:51:50,533
Um, we were wondering just,
2058
01:51:50,566 --> 01:51:52,433
since everyone's
relatively familiar
2059
01:51:52,466 --> 01:51:54,066
with the Declaration
of Independence,
2060
01:51:54,100 --> 01:51:56,366
we were thinking we could get
two volunteers
2061
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:58,366
to read just a few lines,
2062
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:01,233
uh, trying to capture
a different mood,
2063
01:52:01,266 --> 01:52:02,666
a different emotion.
2064
01:52:02,700 --> 01:52:05,700
Um, one, sort of angry
and defiant
2065
01:52:05,733 --> 01:52:08,733
and then another one kind of
more inspired and uplifting.
2066
01:52:08,766 --> 01:52:11,066
No, pleading. Pleading, okay.
2067
01:52:11,100 --> 01:52:13,300
Pleading the king
to allow you to do this.
2068
01:52:13,333 --> 01:52:14,400
Yeah.
2069
01:52:14,433 --> 01:52:15,933
So do we have any volunteers?
2070
01:52:15,966 --> 01:52:17,266
Somebody want to give it a try?
2071
01:52:17,300 --> 01:52:19,033
Okay. And this lady also.
2072
01:52:19,066 --> 01:52:20,700
Oh, terrific.
2073
01:52:20,733 --> 01:52:22,333
So is any... are either of you
2074
01:52:22,366 --> 01:52:25,700
feeling particularly angry
or particularly pleading?
2075
01:52:25,733 --> 01:52:27,433
Her choice.
2076
01:52:30,366 --> 01:52:31,666
Why don't you try angry,
2077
01:52:31,700 --> 01:52:33,966
and you can use my microphone,
2078
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:37,133
and Candice will be
your interpreter.
2079
01:52:37,166 --> 01:52:38,700
Right, so you can
stand right there,
2080
01:52:38,733 --> 01:52:40,333
and I'll stand next to you.
2081
01:52:40,366 --> 01:52:42,166
So hopefully this will show you
2082
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:43,833
a little bit of the difference
2083
01:52:43,866 --> 01:52:47,800
in how an interpretation
might look.
2084
01:52:47,833 --> 01:52:51,100
So very angry.
2085
01:52:51,133 --> 01:52:52,800
Not super fast.
2086
01:52:54,366 --> 01:52:55,700
Okay.
2087
01:52:55,733 --> 01:52:58,433
"We hold these truths
to be self-evident,
2088
01:52:58,466 --> 01:53:00,400
"all men are created equal,
2089
01:53:00,433 --> 01:53:02,533
"that they are endowed
by their Creator
2090
01:53:02,566 --> 01:53:04,866
"with certain
unalienable rights,
2091
01:53:04,900 --> 01:53:07,366
"that among these
are life, liberty,
2092
01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:10,133
"and the pursuit of happiness.
2093
01:53:10,166 --> 01:53:12,000
"And that to secure
these rights,
2094
01:53:12,033 --> 01:53:14,300
"governments are instituted
among men,
2095
01:53:14,333 --> 01:53:15,933
"deriving their just powers
2096
01:53:15,966 --> 01:53:17,900
"from the consent
of the governed.
2097
01:53:17,933 --> 01:53:19,766
"That whenever any form
of government
2098
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:21,833
"becomes destructive
of these ends,
2099
01:53:21,866 --> 01:53:25,366
"it is the right of the people
to alter or abolish it,
2100
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:27,200
"to institute a new government,
2101
01:53:27,233 --> 01:53:29,533
"laying its foundation
on such principles
2102
01:53:29,566 --> 01:53:32,300
"and organizing its powers
in such form,
2103
01:53:32,333 --> 01:53:35,666
"as to them shall seem
most likely
2104
01:53:35,700 --> 01:53:39,700
to effect their safety
and happiness."
2105
01:53:41,833 --> 01:53:43,000
You were angry.
2106
01:53:43,033 --> 01:53:44,000
Pleading?
2107
01:53:44,033 --> 01:53:45,600
Yeah, pleading.
2108
01:53:45,633 --> 01:53:48,633
Pleading, you may have
gotten the easier one.
2109
01:53:48,666 --> 01:53:50,266
You're begging... Are you ready?
2110
01:53:50,300 --> 01:53:52,917
You're begging the king
to allow us to do this.
2111
01:53:52,918 --> 01:53:55,533
You're begging the king
to allow us to do this.
2112
01:53:55,566 --> 01:53:59,166
"We hold these truths
to be self-evident,
2113
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:01,866
"that all men are created equal,
2114
01:54:01,900 --> 01:54:04,800
"that they are endowed
by the creator
2115
01:54:04,833 --> 01:54:07,700
"with certain
unalienable rights,
2116
01:54:07,733 --> 01:54:11,366
"that among these
are life, liberty,
2117
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:14,333
"and the pursuit of happiness.
2118
01:54:14,366 --> 01:54:16,533
"That to secure these rights,
2119
01:54:16,566 --> 01:54:19,533
"governments are instituted
among men,
2120
01:54:19,566 --> 01:54:21,633
"deriving their just powers
2121
01:54:21,666 --> 01:54:24,233
"from the consent
of the governed.
2122
01:54:24,266 --> 01:54:26,500
"That whenever any form
of government
2123
01:54:26,533 --> 01:54:28,933
"becomes destructive
of these ends,
2124
01:54:28,966 --> 01:54:35,566
"it is the right of the people
to alter or abolish it,
2125
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:37,700
"and to institute
a new government,
2126
01:54:37,733 --> 01:54:40,066
"laying its foundation
on such principles
2127
01:54:40,100 --> 01:54:43,166
"and organizing its powers
in such form,
2128
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:47,366
"as to them
shall seem most likely
2129
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:51,500
to effect their safety
and happiness."
2130
01:54:55,700 --> 01:54:56,966
Little prep next time for me.
2131
01:54:58,100 --> 01:54:59,366
That was fantastic.
2132
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:00,866
We have such talented audiences
2133
01:55:00,900 --> 01:55:02,666
at the Library
for the Performing Arts.
2134
01:55:02,700 --> 01:55:04,233
We do. Thank you so much.
2135
01:59:48,666 --> 01:59:50,166
Leroy...
2136
01:59:50,200 --> 01:59:51,700
Have you seen who got 30?
2137
01:59:51,701 --> 01:59:53,200
Have you seen who got 30?
2138
02:00:03,166 --> 02:00:04,309
But teens are more independent,
2139
02:00:04,333 --> 02:00:05,866
and they have a hard time
2140
02:00:05,900 --> 02:00:06,900
asking for help.
2141
02:00:06,933 --> 02:00:07,942
Most of the times,
a lot of teens,
2142
02:00:07,966 --> 02:00:08,933
they think they know it all.
2143
02:00:08,966 --> 02:00:09,933
We all did at one time.
2144
02:00:09,966 --> 02:00:11,200
So it's kinda...
2145
02:00:11,233 --> 02:00:12,942
So my best way of getting
in touch with them
2146
02:00:12,966 --> 02:00:14,466
is kind of let them know,
"Oh, listen.
2147
02:00:14,500 --> 02:00:15,333
"So what are you doing?
2148
02:00:15,366 --> 02:00:17,033
"I'm so bad at math.
2149
02:00:17,066 --> 02:00:18,276
"What do you recommend
for me to do?
2150
02:00:18,300 --> 02:00:19,709
What do you do to work
on your math skills?"
2151
02:00:19,733 --> 02:00:20,776
And then they'll tell me,
"Oh, Rick,
2152
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:22,133
"all you need to do is do this,
2153
02:00:22,166 --> 02:00:23,700
and they have books in there."
2154
02:00:23,733 --> 02:00:25,109
I'm like, "Oh I know we do,
but do you use them?"
2155
02:00:25,133 --> 02:00:26,600
And they're like,
"Oh, yeah, Ricky.
2156
02:00:26,633 --> 02:00:28,300
You could go to this website
too..."
2157
02:00:28,333 --> 02:00:30,766
So I kind of feel what they need
and what they know
2158
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:32,366
and then I build from there.
2159
02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:35,100
Um, it's a little bit hard
when it comes to,
2160
02:00:35,133 --> 02:00:36,633
getting them to come for,
2161
02:00:36,666 --> 02:00:39,233
like, if we do
a teen math program here,
2162
02:00:39,266 --> 02:00:40,706
a lot of times,
if we tell the teens,
2163
02:00:40,733 --> 02:00:41,866
they won't come in.
2164
02:00:41,900 --> 02:00:43,700
So it's different ways
and techniques.
2165
02:00:43,733 --> 02:00:45,333
So it will be great for us too.
2166
02:00:45,366 --> 02:00:47,709
This is what we have to work,
and that we're with the schools.
2167
02:00:47,733 --> 02:00:49,409
So the schools could work
something with the parents,
2168
02:00:49,433 --> 02:00:51,800
and then their parents
bring the teens in.
2169
02:00:51,833 --> 02:00:54,866
Because they'll come in
for a great Wii game or Xbox.
2170
02:00:54,900 --> 02:00:56,476
They'll come in on their own
for that, no problem.
2171
02:00:56,500 --> 02:00:57,800
- Recreational.
- Recreational.
2172
02:00:57,833 --> 02:00:59,109
But when it comes
to something educational,
2173
02:00:59,133 --> 02:01:00,742
it's a little bit hard,
which is understandable,
2174
02:01:00,766 --> 02:01:02,606
because they're doing school
seven hours a day.
2175
02:01:02,633 --> 02:01:03,766
Yeah, they're exhausted.
2176
02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:05,366
They're exhausted
when they come here.
2177
02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:07,733
This is why I think it's
very important for the libraries
2178
02:01:07,766 --> 02:01:11,000
to give the teens
their own space
2179
02:01:11,033 --> 02:01:12,866
and their time in each branch,
2180
02:01:12,900 --> 02:01:14,276
because it's important
for the teens
2181
02:01:14,300 --> 02:01:15,942
to come in and feel
like they belong somewhere.
2182
02:01:15,966 --> 02:01:17,400
And it's not a school.
2183
02:01:17,433 --> 02:01:18,809
When they come to our programs,
I don't want them to feel
2184
02:01:18,833 --> 02:01:20,266
like they have
to sit there straight
2185
02:01:20,300 --> 02:01:21,666
and just do math work.
2186
02:01:21,700 --> 02:01:23,142
No, I want you to feel
like this is the place
2187
02:01:23,166 --> 02:01:24,376
for you to come
with your friends...
2188
02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:25,800
- Relax.
- Yes.
2189
02:01:25,833 --> 02:01:26,866
And talk about math,
2190
02:01:26,900 --> 02:01:28,266
you can learn from each other,
2191
02:01:28,300 --> 02:01:29,776
respect each other
is the main thing that I want.
2192
02:01:29,800 --> 02:01:31,966
Respect each other,
but also learn from each other,
2193
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:33,466
and how can you help each other?
2194
02:01:33,500 --> 02:01:35,466
And with the teens,
a great way to do that too
2195
02:01:35,500 --> 02:01:38,300
is get them, a bunch of teens
in one room together
2196
02:01:38,333 --> 02:01:41,233
and have them kind of let us
know what they need,
2197
02:01:41,266 --> 02:01:43,342
not us kind of telling them,
"Oh, this is what you do."
2198
02:01:43,366 --> 02:01:45,266
It's kind of like,
"How will you help him?
2199
02:01:45,300 --> 02:01:46,333
How would she help him?"
2200
02:01:46,366 --> 02:01:48,666
All that kind of stuff,
and it works.
2201
02:01:48,700 --> 02:01:50,033
We have, as you know,
2202
02:01:50,066 --> 02:01:55,866
a great way of studying how
the children and teen readers,
2203
02:01:55,900 --> 02:01:57,133
their reading patterns,
2204
02:01:57,166 --> 02:01:58,342
in terms of what
is being borrowed,
2205
02:01:58,366 --> 02:02:00,966
through a tool
called Collection HQ,
2206
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:04,666
and I noticed
for the September statistics
2207
02:02:04,700 --> 02:02:07,433
for Parkchester's children
and teens,
2208
02:02:07,466 --> 02:02:09,300
there was a lot of focus
on math.
2209
02:02:09,333 --> 02:02:11,100
- Right.
- It seemed to be a point...
2210
02:02:12,400 --> 02:02:13,633
"How's your math going?"
2211
02:02:13,666 --> 02:02:14,666
where... right.
2212
02:02:14,700 --> 02:02:16,266
Not good.
2213
02:02:16,300 --> 02:02:21,000
As far as, of the top ten
circulating children,
2214
02:02:21,033 --> 02:02:23,633
non-fiction titles
for Parkchester,
2215
02:02:23,666 --> 02:02:25,333
there were at least four
or five books
2216
02:02:25,366 --> 02:02:28,800
on fractions being requested.
Correct.
2217
02:02:28,833 --> 02:02:31,100
And what will be interesting
for all of us to see
2218
02:02:31,133 --> 02:02:34,233
is system-wide, is that also
a pattern of use, right?
2219
02:02:34,266 --> 02:02:35,400
Yeah.
2220
02:02:35,433 --> 02:02:37,566
Um, Ashante,
you've been working a lot
2221
02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:40,166
with, um, through the
MyLibraryNYC program,
2222
02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:43,333
and I'm just curious,
does this seem to be the...
2223
02:02:43,366 --> 02:02:45,966
is... does there seem
to be a true pattern
2224
02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:48,600
of certain topics being covered
2225
02:02:48,633 --> 02:02:51,900
at various points in the year
by children and teens?
2226
02:02:51,933 --> 02:02:54,450
Um, parents are really
challenged by the new math,
2227
02:02:54,451 --> 02:02:56,966
Um, parents are really
challenged by the new math,
2228
02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:58,809
- with the Common Core math.
- Yes, Common Core.
2229
02:02:58,833 --> 02:03:02,866
So they're used to doing
the math, working from...
2230
02:03:02,900 --> 02:03:06,800
working from the top down,
2231
02:03:06,833 --> 02:03:08,833
and now they're going
from left to right.
2232
02:03:08,866 --> 02:03:10,166
Right.
2233
02:03:10,200 --> 02:03:12,933
So parents are looking
for books on math,
2234
02:03:12,966 --> 02:03:14,633
kids are looking
for books for math,
2235
02:03:14,666 --> 02:03:16,966
and we're seeing that,
with the teacher's sets,
2236
02:03:17,000 --> 02:03:20,366
that math teachers are looking
for teacher sets
2237
02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:23,866
using the MyLibraryNYC
teacher sets,
2238
02:03:23,900 --> 02:03:27,700
and... it is,
it is a true trend.
2239
02:03:27,733 --> 02:03:29,500
So I'm glad you guys noticed it.
2240
02:03:29,533 --> 02:03:30,666
There's this huge increase
2241
02:03:30,700 --> 02:03:33,866
in circulation of teacher sets
and items,
2242
02:03:33,900 --> 02:03:37,600
and so I'm wondering, are they
mostly math teacher sets or...?
2243
02:03:37,633 --> 02:03:39,033
Well, the highest...
2244
02:03:39,066 --> 02:03:40,900
the highest-circulating
teacher set
2245
02:03:40,933 --> 02:03:43,533
is the baby animals.
2246
02:03:43,566 --> 02:03:45,233
Because who doesn't
love baby animals?
2247
02:03:45,266 --> 02:03:47,033
That is the highest-circulating.
2248
02:03:47,066 --> 02:03:50,866
But math is following
right behind it.
2249
02:03:50,900 --> 02:03:52,233
And that's new, right?
2250
02:03:52,266 --> 02:03:53,700
Yeah, that's new. That's new.
2251
02:03:53,733 --> 02:03:54,900
We've tripled our,
2252
02:03:54,933 --> 02:03:57,033
we've over tripled
our teacher sets.
2253
02:03:57,066 --> 02:03:59,300
Yeah, I was reading
this last night.
2254
02:03:59,333 --> 02:04:00,866
I thought, "That's incredible."
2255
02:04:00,900 --> 02:04:02,633
Yeah, we're very proud.
Really incredible.
2256
02:04:02,666 --> 02:04:05,266
We need to look at it
holistically.
2257
02:04:05,300 --> 02:04:08,366
You know, how we can partner
with the programming team
2258
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:11,433
to ensure that
there are resources
2259
02:04:11,466 --> 02:04:13,400
and, you know, there are
connections made
2260
02:04:13,433 --> 02:04:15,133
between Programming
and Collections,
2261
02:04:15,166 --> 02:04:18,933
and also how we can broaden
our reach
2262
02:04:18,966 --> 02:04:21,866
by working with volunteers
and staff.
2263
02:04:21,900 --> 02:04:24,800
There is a,
an urgency around this.
2264
02:04:24,833 --> 02:04:26,066
We cannot fail.
2265
02:04:26,100 --> 02:04:28,966
I mean if parents are coming,
pleading to you...
2266
02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:30,733
Yeah, yeah.
2267
02:04:30,766 --> 02:04:32,300
I can see in their eyes
their need,
2268
02:04:32,333 --> 02:04:33,709
they want their kids
to be successful.
2269
02:04:33,733 --> 02:04:35,300
Yeah, exactly.
2270
02:04:35,333 --> 02:04:37,433
Their whole family depends
on this generation.
2271
02:04:37,466 --> 02:04:38,666
The library cannot fail.
2272
02:04:38,700 --> 02:04:39,900
Yeah.
2273
02:04:39,933 --> 02:04:42,033
If you actually had
a non-floating collection
2274
02:04:42,066 --> 02:04:43,533
in specific areas
2275
02:04:43,566 --> 02:04:45,209
that you know
your neighborhood really needs...
2276
02:04:45,233 --> 02:04:47,666
Like, math sounds like
it's more than Parkchester,
2277
02:04:47,700 --> 02:04:49,266
but it's obviously here...
2278
02:04:49,300 --> 02:04:53,000
And you had a four-
or five-day series
2279
02:04:53,033 --> 02:04:54,933
for parents and kids
2280
02:04:54,966 --> 02:04:57,433
to come and learn
to do math together,
2281
02:04:57,466 --> 02:04:59,133
there might be
a real opportunity
2282
02:04:59,166 --> 02:05:01,366
to bring the community together
in here too.
2283
02:05:01,400 --> 02:05:03,342
So you could have something
like the Programs in a Box.
2284
02:05:03,366 --> 02:05:04,533
You could have this...
2285
02:05:04,566 --> 02:05:06,266
I mean, the cornerstone
of all of this
2286
02:05:06,300 --> 02:05:07,900
is you
and the collection, right,
2287
02:05:07,933 --> 02:05:10,466
and having that partnership
with the teachers.
2288
02:05:10,500 --> 02:05:12,133
Then you can build around it,
2289
02:05:12,166 --> 02:05:13,642
but we do have the means
to build around it, right?
2290
02:05:13,666 --> 02:05:14,866
We have the Programs in a Box,
2291
02:05:14,900 --> 02:05:16,666
which we're all committed to.
2292
02:05:16,700 --> 02:05:20,133
We also have the ability
to bring in community tutors.
2293
02:05:20,166 --> 02:05:22,366
There's a lot of potential there
2294
02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:24,400
that we can weave together.
2295
02:05:24,433 --> 02:05:25,766
Let's not lose sight of that,
2296
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:27,800
and, actually, let's not
give that up right now,
2297
02:05:27,833 --> 02:05:29,900
just because we're having
this conversation.
2298
02:05:29,933 --> 02:05:33,566
Let's figure out
how we help make that happen.
2299
02:06:13,433 --> 02:06:15,300
Here you go.
2300
02:06:15,333 --> 02:06:16,666
Check in?
2301
02:06:16,700 --> 02:06:18,933
Or check out?
2302
02:06:25,966 --> 02:06:27,633
How old are you?
2303
02:06:27,666 --> 02:06:28,700
You're 12?
2304
02:06:28,733 --> 02:06:30,300
So you have a student ID?
2305
02:06:30,333 --> 02:06:32,800
Uh, do you have any form of ID?
2306
02:06:32,833 --> 02:06:34,800
Do you have something
with your name on it
2307
02:06:34,833 --> 02:06:35,800
and your school name on it,
2308
02:06:35,833 --> 02:06:38,666
like a schedule or a report card
2309
02:06:38,700 --> 02:06:39,966
or a progress report?
2310
02:06:40,000 --> 02:06:42,466
Okay, so I need you to bring me
one of those things,
2311
02:06:42,500 --> 02:06:43,842
and if you don't have
any of those things,
2312
02:06:43,866 --> 02:06:46,666
then you need to come
with a parent or guardian, okay?
2313
02:06:46,700 --> 02:06:48,100
So go get it? Huh?
2314
02:06:48,133 --> 02:06:49,366
Do I have to go get it?
2315
02:06:49,400 --> 02:06:52,166
If you have it, yeah.
2316
02:06:52,200 --> 02:06:53,600
- Hey, can I take out - Atlanta?
2317
02:06:53,633 --> 02:06:54,666
Yeah.
2318
02:06:54,700 --> 02:06:56,700
Um, this one's actually
reserved,
2319
02:06:56,733 --> 02:07:00,133
but, um... let me see.
2320
02:07:03,666 --> 02:07:07,433
Since we're toward the tail
of the NYPL HotSpot program,
2321
02:07:07,466 --> 02:07:10,633
the devices generally
were going out for a year.
2322
02:07:10,666 --> 02:07:12,033
That has changed.
2323
02:07:12,066 --> 02:07:14,800
Lending periods may be shorter
than a year.
2324
02:07:14,833 --> 02:07:16,566
When we check the devices out
upstairs,
2325
02:07:16,600 --> 02:07:17,833
the due date that it gives you
2326
02:07:17,866 --> 02:07:20,266
is the due date
that it's going to provide.
2327
02:07:20,300 --> 02:07:21,642
They're not renewable
at this point.
2328
02:07:21,666 --> 02:07:22,700
You're going to get
2329
02:07:22,733 --> 02:07:26,100
six gigabytes per month
at 4G speed.
2330
02:07:26,133 --> 02:07:28,766
Now once you bypass that,
it will still work,
2331
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:30,109
but if you're doing something
like streaming,
2332
02:07:30,133 --> 02:07:31,666
watching Netflix,
2333
02:07:31,700 --> 02:07:32,933
it's going to operate slower.
2334
02:07:32,966 --> 02:07:34,033
And keep in mind,
2335
02:07:34,066 --> 02:07:36,566
and I tell this
to a lot of people,
2336
02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:39,200
because I've been doing this
for the past couple of months,
2337
02:07:39,233 --> 02:07:41,666
be very careful who you let
2338
02:07:41,700 --> 02:07:43,066
use the hotspot device.
2339
02:07:43,100 --> 02:07:46,300
You can connect
up to nine devices at once,
2340
02:07:46,333 --> 02:07:47,666
but you have to keep in mind
2341
02:07:47,700 --> 02:07:50,166
the other people who
may be using the connection
2342
02:07:50,200 --> 02:07:52,800
may also be using the data
that's already allocated.
2343
02:07:52,833 --> 02:07:55,600
So if they're streaming
and you're streaming,
2344
02:07:55,633 --> 02:07:57,042
they're eating up data
that you're using.
2345
02:07:57,066 --> 02:07:59,766
These can only be checked out
2346
02:07:59,800 --> 02:08:02,700
on fine-free
adult library cards.
2347
02:08:02,733 --> 02:08:04,933
Kids cards cannot be used
for this.
2348
02:08:04,966 --> 02:08:07,200
Cards for teens cannot be used
for this.
2349
02:08:07,233 --> 02:08:10,433
And if anyone has any money
on their library card now,
2350
02:08:10,466 --> 02:08:11,933
you will be asked
to make a payment
2351
02:08:11,966 --> 02:08:14,933
and clear the balance completely
once we go upstairs.
2352
02:08:14,966 --> 02:08:16,033
If you can't do that,
2353
02:08:16,066 --> 02:08:17,033
then we cannot
check out the device.
2354
02:08:17,066 --> 02:08:19,833
Please have
your library cards ready,
2355
02:08:19,866 --> 02:08:22,433
and we will proceed
to the first floor for checkout.
2356
02:08:22,466 --> 02:08:25,733
I've only ever read
the first one,
2357
02:08:25,766 --> 02:08:28,400
which is The Wonderful
Wizard of Oz.
2358
02:08:28,433 --> 02:08:29,476
That's what the movie's
based on,
2359
02:08:29,500 --> 02:08:30,633
it's based on that book.
2360
02:08:30,666 --> 02:08:32,500
But that's just the first one.
2361
02:08:32,533 --> 02:08:34,283
And then there's
2362
02:08:34,284 --> 02:08:36,033
Th e Marvelous Land of Oz,
2363
02:08:36,066 --> 02:08:37,700
Ozma of Oz,
2364
02:08:37,701 --> 02:08:39,333
Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz,
2365
02:08:39,366 --> 02:08:41,766
- The Road to Oz,
- Th e Emerald City of Oz,
2366
02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:42,766
The Patchwork Girl.
2367
02:08:42,800 --> 02:08:43,942
Like, and then it starts talking
2368
02:08:43,966 --> 02:08:46,033
about specific characters.
Uh-huh.
2369
02:08:46,066 --> 02:08:48,466
Um...
2370
02:08:48,500 --> 02:08:51,400
Yeah, The Scarecrow of Oz.
2371
02:08:51,433 --> 02:08:52,976
- Yeah, that's a whole series.
- Yeah, that's a whole series.
2372
02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:56,033
But I can put Glenda
on hold for you.
2373
02:08:56,066 --> 02:08:56,966
Do you want me to do that?
2374
02:08:57,000 --> 02:08:57,733
Yes, please.
2375
02:08:57,766 --> 02:08:58,766
Okay.
2376
02:09:15,200 --> 02:09:19,333
This is for November 27, 2016.
2377
02:09:19,366 --> 02:09:22,700
Okay.
2378
02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:28,566
Okay, we keep the survey here.
2379
02:09:28,600 --> 02:09:30,142
And you are good to go.
Congratulations.
2380
02:09:30,166 --> 02:09:31,333
Thank you. Have a good day.
2381
02:09:31,366 --> 02:09:33,266
You too, have a good one.
2382
02:09:33,300 --> 02:09:34,533
Next in line step down.
2383
02:09:34,566 --> 02:09:36,533
Sure.
2384
02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:39,666
Okay, yes.
2385
02:09:42,100 --> 02:09:43,833
Celebrate good times, come on
2386
02:09:46,233 --> 02:09:48,366
Let's have some solos.
2387
02:09:48,400 --> 02:09:49,700
Tina.
2388
02:09:49,733 --> 02:09:50,833
Go, yes.
2389
02:09:50,866 --> 02:09:52,200
Celebrate good times, come on
2390
02:09:52,233 --> 02:09:54,766
Little solo.
2391
02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:57,566
There's a party goin' on
right here
2392
02:09:57,600 --> 02:09:58,666
Cheer her on.
2393
02:09:58,700 --> 02:09:59,700
Tina.
2394
02:09:59,733 --> 02:10:01,100
Celebration
2395
02:10:01,133 --> 02:10:02,333
Fabulous.
2396
02:10:02,366 --> 02:10:03,633
Go Amina.
2397
02:10:03,666 --> 02:10:05,433
Amina.
2398
02:10:05,466 --> 02:10:07,433
And your laughter too
2399
02:10:07,466 --> 02:10:09,300
We're gonna celebrate
your party with you
2400
02:10:09,333 --> 02:10:10,700
Go Amina.
2401
02:10:10,733 --> 02:10:12,833
Fabulous, go Amina.
2402
02:10:12,866 --> 02:10:15,000
Let's close it in a little.
2403
02:10:15,033 --> 02:10:16,433
Close it, close.
2404
02:10:16,466 --> 02:10:18,066
Let's all celebrate
and have a good time
2405
02:10:18,100 --> 02:10:19,000
Good.
2406
02:10:19,033 --> 02:10:20,233
Go Bodie.
2407
02:10:20,266 --> 02:10:22,433
Celebration Fabulous.
2408
02:10:22,466 --> 02:10:23,733
Go Bodie.
2409
02:10:23,766 --> 02:10:27,866
We're gonna celebrate
and have a good time
2410
02:10:27,900 --> 02:10:31,800
It's time to come together
2411
02:10:31,833 --> 02:10:35,200
It's up to you...
Let's have Millie and Liz.
2412
02:10:35,233 --> 02:10:36,433
Millie and Liz join.
2413
02:10:36,466 --> 02:10:37,466
Millie.
2414
02:10:37,500 --> 02:10:38,666
Come in Liz.
2415
02:10:38,700 --> 02:10:39,800
You'll find her.
2416
02:10:42,166 --> 02:10:43,566
Nice, nice.
2417
02:10:43,600 --> 02:10:45,400
I love the movement
of Liz's legs.
2418
02:10:45,433 --> 02:10:46,733
Did you see that?
2419
02:10:46,766 --> 02:10:49,166
Look at Millie's
stretched out legs.
2420
02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:51,200
Let's go easy.
2421
02:10:51,233 --> 02:10:53,000
Let's go.
2422
02:10:53,033 --> 02:10:54,066
Margalit.
2423
02:10:54,100 --> 02:10:55,700
Come on, take center.
2424
02:11:10,700 --> 02:11:12,800
That's right.
2425
02:11:12,833 --> 02:11:14,076
Just have to enter in
the information
2426
02:11:14,100 --> 02:11:16,600
and then try it out
and see what happens.
2427
02:11:16,633 --> 02:11:19,033
Right here...
2428
02:11:26,933 --> 02:11:29,233
Hey, hey. Julius,
2429
02:11:29,266 --> 02:11:32,666
if you're holding on to the
robots to stop it from moving,
2430
02:11:32,700 --> 02:11:34,800
then that means you need
to change something
2431
02:11:34,833 --> 02:11:36,033
on the computer.
2432
02:11:36,066 --> 02:11:38,433
This number?
2433
02:11:41,800 --> 02:11:44,400
Click the green "Run" button.
2434
02:11:46,666 --> 02:11:47,800
It was... ah!
2435
02:11:47,833 --> 02:11:50,200
I'll just click...
2436
02:11:50,233 --> 02:11:51,266
Um...
2437
02:11:51,300 --> 02:11:53,000
See how this is kind of moving?
2438
02:11:53,001 --> 02:11:54,700
See how this is kind of moving?
2439
02:11:54,733 --> 02:11:55,800
Can you think of a way
2440
02:11:55,833 --> 02:11:57,866
that maybe you could make it
more stable?
2441
02:11:57,900 --> 02:12:01,233
Five, four, three, two...
2442
02:12:03,233 --> 02:12:05,166
Oh, oh, oh!
2443
02:12:07,600 --> 02:12:09,300
Oh, oh!
2444
02:12:09,333 --> 02:12:11,700
So how many coding blocks
did I have?
2445
02:12:11,733 --> 02:12:13,366
Five. That's right.
2446
02:12:13,400 --> 02:12:16,966
Now, do you have to make yours
exactly the same as mine?
2447
02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:18,833
You don't.
2448
02:12:18,866 --> 02:12:20,933
But just remember that
for each action
2449
02:12:20,966 --> 02:12:22,933
that you want this robot to do,
2450
02:12:22,966 --> 02:12:25,866
you have to add
another coding block.
2451
02:12:25,900 --> 02:12:28,666
So you keep experimenting
2452
02:12:28,700 --> 02:12:30,800
until it works the way
that you want it.
2453
02:12:30,833 --> 02:12:32,866
Please don't twist
2454
02:12:32,900 --> 02:12:34,800
Oh, I told you.
2455
02:12:34,833 --> 02:12:35,966
Please don't twist.
2456
02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:37,500
Oh, oh!
2457
02:12:37,533 --> 02:12:39,200
Anyway, it still
didn't go over...
2458
02:12:39,233 --> 02:12:40,966
I mean, that's good, though.
2459
02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:43,233
That's good.
2460
02:12:43,266 --> 02:12:45,433
Yeah. Noah.
2461
02:12:45,466 --> 02:12:46,166
Yeah.
2462
02:12:46,200 --> 02:12:47,366
You did best.
2463
02:12:47,400 --> 02:12:48,300
Yeah, I did something.
That's so cool.
2464
02:12:48,333 --> 02:12:49,900
Is it perfect?
2465
02:12:49,933 --> 02:12:51,133
- Yes.
- Okay.
2466
02:13:15,900 --> 02:13:18,800
Welcome, everyone,
to the celebration
2467
02:13:18,833 --> 02:13:22,633
of the 90th anniversary
of the Schomburg Center.
2468
02:13:22,666 --> 02:13:26,533
It really is wonderful to have
you all here this evening.
2469
02:13:26,566 --> 02:13:27,533
Thank you.
2470
02:13:27,566 --> 02:13:29,266
Thank you to the Schomburg.
2471
02:13:29,300 --> 02:13:32,966
Thank you for all the amazing
work we all do together
2472
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:35,700
as New Yorkers,
as lovers of the library,
2473
02:13:35,733 --> 02:13:38,800
as all of us aspire to a world
2474
02:13:38,833 --> 02:13:42,600
of continued creativity
and inspiration
2475
02:13:42,633 --> 02:13:45,366
drawn from the Schomburg
and all of the collections
2476
02:13:45,400 --> 02:13:47,500
and work of the library.
2477
02:13:47,533 --> 02:13:50,100
Leading that effort
at the Schomburg
2478
02:13:50,133 --> 02:13:54,100
is our amazing director,
Khalil Gibran Muhammad.
2479
02:14:01,733 --> 02:14:03,166
And there he is.
2480
02:14:03,200 --> 02:14:05,500
And he'll tell us more
about the important work
2481
02:14:05,533 --> 02:14:07,633
being carried out
at the Schomburg
2482
02:14:07,666 --> 02:14:09,633
and the great history
of the Schomburg
2483
02:14:09,666 --> 02:14:12,500
as we celebrate
the 90th anniversary.
2484
02:14:12,533 --> 02:14:13,866
Over to you, Khalil.
2485
02:14:13,900 --> 02:14:15,133
Thank you.
2486
02:14:15,166 --> 02:14:18,100
I've work with and met
some spectacular people
2487
02:14:18,133 --> 02:14:20,166
over the past several years.
2488
02:14:20,200 --> 02:14:23,666
People who are talented,
creative, and passionate
2489
02:14:23,700 --> 02:14:25,066
about the Schomburg.
2490
02:14:25,100 --> 02:14:30,966
People whose words make
the world kinder and gentler.
2491
02:14:31,000 --> 02:14:34,466
What I took for granted
is the importance
2492
02:14:34,500 --> 02:14:39,033
and significance of
the public value of what we do.
2493
02:14:39,066 --> 02:14:43,333
Of what our curators,
archivists, librarians,
2494
02:14:43,366 --> 02:14:46,900
educators, and all the staff do,
2495
02:14:46,933 --> 02:14:50,133
of what our supporters
and donors do.
2496
02:14:50,166 --> 02:14:52,200
We do mind building,
soul affirming,
2497
02:14:52,201 --> 02:14:54,233
We do mind building,
soul affirming,
2498
02:14:54,266 --> 02:14:56,000
and surely more
than we can ever measure
2499
02:14:56,033 --> 02:15:01,266
or put in an annual report,
lifesaving work.
2500
02:15:01,300 --> 02:15:04,000
Toni Morrison once said
in this building,
2501
02:15:04,033 --> 02:15:06,800
that libraries are the pillars
of our democracy.
2502
02:15:06,833 --> 02:15:11,600
Maya Angelou sat
on the Langston Hughes Stage
2503
02:15:11,633 --> 02:15:13,200
of the Schomburg Center
2504
02:15:13,233 --> 02:15:16,933
and called them
"Rainbows in the clouds."
2505
02:15:16,966 --> 02:15:20,433
These are not just
inspirational metaphors.
2506
02:15:20,466 --> 02:15:22,666
I've seen the lightbulbs turn on
2507
02:15:22,700 --> 02:15:27,033
behind the eyes of
a ten-year-old junior scholar.
2508
02:15:27,066 --> 02:15:29,966
I've listened to the
octogenarian volunteer
2509
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:33,633
tell me that, in our building,
2510
02:15:33,666 --> 02:15:37,933
being there helps her
keep on keeping on.
2511
02:15:37,966 --> 02:15:39,666
I've greeted hundreds
of academics
2512
02:15:39,700 --> 02:15:41,300
in our reading rooms,
2513
02:15:41,333 --> 02:15:44,100
and dozens and dozens of
campuses across the nation,
2514
02:15:44,133 --> 02:15:48,833
who said it is hard to imagine
what their careers would be,
2515
02:15:48,866 --> 02:15:52,866
but for the rich collections
of the Schomburg archives.
2516
02:15:52,900 --> 02:15:56,600
There is nothing
in the world more powerful
2517
02:15:56,633 --> 02:16:01,366
than to watch a history maker
look back at her own legacy,
2518
02:16:01,400 --> 02:16:04,133
to touch his own past,
2519
02:16:04,166 --> 02:16:06,966
as I observed when
Congressman John Lewis
2520
02:16:07,000 --> 02:16:09,166
held in his brave hands
2521
02:16:09,200 --> 02:16:12,066
the second meeting notes
of SNCC,
2522
02:16:12,100 --> 02:16:14,600
the Student Nonviolent
Coordinating Committee,
2523
02:16:14,633 --> 02:16:16,966
from October of 1960,
2524
02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:20,000
housed in our
Ella Baker Archives.
2525
02:16:20,033 --> 02:16:24,966
We should all be so fortunate
to make some necessary trouble,
2526
02:16:25,000 --> 02:16:27,766
as Congressman Lewis always says
2527
02:16:27,800 --> 02:16:30,500
of his civil rights past.
2528
02:16:30,533 --> 02:16:33,266
And to have that trouble
preserved
2529
02:16:33,300 --> 02:16:36,700
so that future generations
will learn,
2530
02:16:36,733 --> 02:16:39,533
and, when necessary,
be prepared to do the same.
2531
02:16:39,566 --> 02:16:42,266
It isn't an accident
2532
02:16:42,300 --> 02:16:45,133
that leaders of the NAACP
and the Urban League
2533
02:16:45,166 --> 02:16:49,333
appealed to the Carnegie
Corporation 90 years ago
2534
02:16:49,366 --> 02:16:52,333
to purchase
Arturo Schomburg's collection.
2535
02:16:52,366 --> 02:16:56,033
Or that civil rights researchers
turned to our collections
2536
02:16:56,066 --> 02:16:58,250
to argue and build a case for
2537
02:16:58,251 --> 02:17:00,433
Br own v. Board of Education.
2538
02:17:00,466 --> 02:17:02,700
Their intention and our mission
2539
02:17:02,733 --> 02:17:06,200
remain as relevant
and true to this day.
2540
02:17:06,233 --> 02:17:08,233
And through national
partnerships
2541
02:17:08,266 --> 02:17:10,000
and digital initiatives,
2542
02:17:10,033 --> 02:17:12,833
we'll reach more people
than ever before.
2543
02:17:19,333 --> 02:17:20,966
How much is the book?
2544
02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:23,700
Ten dollars, autographed copy.
2545
02:17:23,733 --> 02:17:25,633
I'll sign it for you personally.
2546
02:17:43,566 --> 02:17:45,666
Here we go, we're going to go,
2547
02:17:45,700 --> 02:17:50,166
Old McDonald had a farm,
E-I-E-I-O
2548
02:17:50,200 --> 02:17:52,800
And on that farm he had
a wife, E-I-E-I-O.
2549
02:17:52,801 --> 02:17:55,400
And on that farm he had
a wife, E-I-E-I-O.
2550
02:17:55,433 --> 02:17:58,266
With a kiss, kiss here
and a kiss, kiss there
2551
02:17:58,300 --> 02:18:01,033
Here a kiss, there a kiss,
everywhere a kiss, kiss
2552
02:18:01,066 --> 02:18:06,500
Old McDonald had a farm
E-I-E-I-O
2553
02:18:06,533 --> 02:18:11,866
And on that farm he had a dog,
E-I-E-I-O
2554
02:18:11,900 --> 02:18:14,866
With a woof, woof here
and a woof, woof there
2555
02:18:14,900 --> 02:18:17,800
Here a woof, there a woof,
everywhere a woof, woof
2556
02:18:17,833 --> 02:18:20,800
Old McDonald had a farm
2557
02:19:52,233 --> 02:19:54,733
On to homeless patrons.
2558
02:19:54,766 --> 02:19:58,633
Everyone recognizes the problem
seems to be increasing.
2559
02:19:58,666 --> 02:20:00,133
Yeah.
2560
02:20:00,166 --> 02:20:03,000
Everyone recognizes that
the library has a responsibility
2561
02:20:03,033 --> 02:20:06,966
to serve all patrons
and to be welcoming,
2562
02:20:07,000 --> 02:20:09,066
but there is sometimes a tension
2563
02:20:09,100 --> 02:20:11,600
between what
one kind of patron needs
2564
02:20:11,633 --> 02:20:13,433
and what another
kind of patron needs.
2565
02:20:13,466 --> 02:20:16,733
And so lines have to be drawn
about, you know,
2566
02:20:16,766 --> 02:20:19,933
how do we accommodate people
together
2567
02:20:19,966 --> 02:20:21,633
who may not always want
to be together
2568
02:20:21,666 --> 02:20:23,600
and be respectful of everyone.
2569
02:20:23,633 --> 02:20:25,066
And then there was the question
2570
02:20:25,100 --> 02:20:28,633
of what is the appropriate role
of the library,
2571
02:20:28,666 --> 02:20:32,466
not just as welcoming space
for everyone,
2572
02:20:32,500 --> 02:20:35,566
but, you know,
where should we be intervening
2573
02:20:35,600 --> 02:20:39,033
in social policy around
the homeless... Right.
2574
02:20:39,066 --> 02:20:42,066
As versus where should
we be relying on the city,
2575
02:20:42,100 --> 02:20:43,200
other private agencies
2576
02:20:43,233 --> 02:20:45,633
that are expert
and engaged in this
2577
02:20:45,666 --> 02:20:48,533
as we all face this problem.
2578
02:20:48,566 --> 02:20:51,833
We have a policy
that talks about
2579
02:20:51,866 --> 02:20:55,276
- how users have to comport
themselves in the library.
2580
02:20:55,300 --> 02:20:58,033
And so it would embrace
most of this conduct,
2581
02:20:58,066 --> 02:20:59,700
and we may have to revisit that.
2582
02:20:59,733 --> 02:21:02,866
I don't know if we want to give
more flexibility or less.
2583
02:21:02,900 --> 02:21:04,600
So if you don't do
certain things,
2584
02:21:04,633 --> 02:21:06,666
like if you come in and sleep,
2585
02:21:06,700 --> 02:21:09,133
you could literally
be asked to leave.
2586
02:21:09,166 --> 02:21:12,100
You aren't allowed to just come
into the library and sleep.
2587
02:21:12,133 --> 02:21:13,466
So the barring policy,
2588
02:21:13,500 --> 02:21:15,666
which can lead to your
being barred from the library
2589
02:21:15,700 --> 02:21:16,766
for periods of time.
2590
02:21:16,800 --> 02:21:19,133
So that is also part
2591
02:21:19,166 --> 02:21:20,866
of this discussion.
2592
02:21:20,900 --> 02:21:23,333
I am not an expert
at this topic,
2593
02:21:23,366 --> 02:21:24,709
but I've been a New Yorker
my whole life,
2594
02:21:24,733 --> 02:21:26,800
and one of the things that
you notice is, you know,
2595
02:21:26,833 --> 02:21:30,666
the way in which
we who are not homeless
2596
02:21:30,700 --> 02:21:32,500
keep our distance
from the homeless.
2597
02:21:32,533 --> 02:21:33,866
And in the libraries is a place
2598
02:21:33,900 --> 02:21:36,033
where we don't
keep our distance.
2599
02:21:36,066 --> 02:21:39,433
And I do believe that
as much as we need rules,
2600
02:21:39,466 --> 02:21:42,300
and as much as we need
institutions,
2601
02:21:42,333 --> 02:21:45,900
in the end we need a change
of culture in this town
2602
02:21:45,933 --> 02:21:47,733
that says, you know,
2603
02:21:47,766 --> 02:21:49,833
"There may be people
who are scary,
2604
02:21:49,866 --> 02:21:53,133
"but there're all other people
who we should just be helping,
2605
02:21:53,166 --> 02:21:55,700
right, as regulars
in our neighborhood."
2606
02:21:55,733 --> 02:21:57,766
But you... And I don't know
how to do that, right?
2607
02:21:57,800 --> 02:22:00,066
You know, the mayor's
made this commitment
2608
02:22:00,100 --> 02:22:03,533
that he's going to deal
with the homelessness issue,
2609
02:22:03,566 --> 02:22:05,533
and he's put $100 million
toward that goal.
2610
02:22:05,566 --> 02:22:07,233
Right, yeah, no, I know.
2611
02:22:07,266 --> 02:22:09,833
I think that they're developing
a plan to be able to do it.
2612
02:22:20,000 --> 02:22:22,900
And we house in this room
three collections.
2613
02:22:22,933 --> 02:22:25,766
The Print Collection,
the Photo Collection,
2614
02:22:25,800 --> 02:22:27,133
and the Spencer Collection.
2615
02:22:27,166 --> 02:22:28,266
The Print Collection,
2616
02:22:28,300 --> 02:22:32,000
we have around 300,000
to 250,000 prints.
2617
02:22:32,033 --> 02:22:33,400
And in our Photographic
Collection,
2618
02:22:33,433 --> 02:22:35,200
we have a half a million
photographs.
2619
02:22:35,233 --> 02:22:37,733
And this present collection
that is
2620
02:22:37,766 --> 02:22:39,509
about illustrated books,
European manuscripts,
2621
02:22:39,533 --> 02:22:40,500
we have around 15,000.
2622
02:22:40,533 --> 02:22:45,800
We have prints
from around the world.
2623
02:22:45,833 --> 02:22:48,566
But here, we have almost, the...
2624
02:22:48,600 --> 02:22:51,100
I can say the history
of the European printmaking.
2625
02:22:51,133 --> 02:22:56,466
Everything is started with
printmaking around the 1400s.
2626
02:22:56,500 --> 02:22:59,200
There are some samples,
early samples from the 1300s,
2627
02:22:59,233 --> 02:23:01,733
but, um, what I decided to do
2628
02:23:01,766 --> 02:23:03,400
is to show you some
of the highlights.
2629
02:23:03,433 --> 02:23:06,700
The first print is
Albert Duürer,
2630
02:23:06,733 --> 02:23:08,042
- and it's called
- Th e Rhinoceros.
2631
02:23:08,066 --> 02:23:10,500
Duürer used
to sell these outside
2632
02:23:10,533 --> 02:23:13,500
of the Sundays church
with his wife.
2633
02:23:13,533 --> 02:23:15,933
This is a kind of newspaper
2634
02:23:15,966 --> 02:23:17,666
from the time, 1515.
2635
02:23:17,700 --> 02:23:23,200
It's telling a story
about the king of Portugal
2636
02:23:23,233 --> 02:23:26,566
receiving a rhinoceros.
2637
02:23:26,600 --> 02:23:29,400
In 1515, a rhinoceros,
2638
02:23:29,433 --> 02:23:32,833
the Europeans at that point
haven't see a rhinoceros.
2639
02:23:32,866 --> 02:23:35,700
Last time they saw was
in the Roman Empire.
2640
02:23:35,733 --> 02:23:40,966
And that rhinoceros arrived
to, uh, to Lisbon,
2641
02:23:41,000 --> 02:23:45,700
and after that the King Manuel
decided to send this rhinoceros
2642
02:23:45,733 --> 02:23:47,166
to the pope.
2643
02:23:47,200 --> 02:23:48,833
Real thing.
2644
02:23:48,866 --> 02:23:51,650
But when the rhinoceros
was going to Rome,
2645
02:23:51,651 --> 02:23:54,433
But when the rhinoceros
was going to Rome,
2646
02:23:54,466 --> 02:23:56,133
the ship never arrived.
2647
02:23:56,166 --> 02:23:59,000
There was a very strong storm
in the Mediterranean,
2648
02:23:59,033 --> 02:24:01,500
and the rhinoceros die,
and there was a wreck.
2649
02:24:01,533 --> 02:24:03,666
Somebody took a note, a sketch.
2650
02:24:03,700 --> 02:24:04,933
Duürer was in Nuremberg,
2651
02:24:04,966 --> 02:24:06,900
and he saw this sketch,
2652
02:24:06,933 --> 02:24:09,200
and he say,
"Oh, that's good idea."
2653
02:24:09,233 --> 02:24:10,700
The caption here
2654
02:24:10,733 --> 02:24:13,633
is telling the story
of what's happened.
2655
02:24:13,666 --> 02:24:15,366
People were buying these things,
2656
02:24:15,400 --> 02:24:17,433
and what's almost
like a today's newspaper.
2657
02:24:17,466 --> 02:24:18,700
They were telling each other.
2658
02:24:18,733 --> 02:24:20,933
Not everybody was able to read.
2659
02:24:20,966 --> 02:24:22,076
Duürer never saw the rhinoceros
2660
02:24:22,100 --> 02:24:24,000
apparently,
2661
02:24:24,033 --> 02:24:27,533
and that kind of plates,
that's not really a rhinoceros,
2662
02:24:27,566 --> 02:24:28,666
it looks like,
2663
02:24:28,700 --> 02:24:30,333
but that was one
of the popular prints
2664
02:24:30,366 --> 02:24:31,900
about the story
of the rhinoceros.
2665
02:24:31,933 --> 02:24:36,800
The next one I'll show you,
you know, it's a Rembrandt.
2666
02:24:36,833 --> 02:24:40,366
It's after his wife died,
Saskia.
2667
02:24:40,400 --> 02:24:41,500
Before that time,
2668
02:24:41,533 --> 02:24:44,666
he did around 80 self-portraits,
2669
02:24:44,700 --> 02:24:46,433
together with painting
and prints.
2670
02:24:46,466 --> 02:24:48,466
This one is after his...
2671
02:24:48,500 --> 02:24:52,433
and you see the print before,
he's very joyful, you know,
2672
02:24:52,466 --> 02:24:56,333
wearing fancy clothing,
2673
02:24:56,366 --> 02:25:00,366
but here he's sitting
on the window,
2674
02:25:00,400 --> 02:25:04,966
and you see
an introspective artist.
2675
02:25:06,433 --> 02:25:10,800
Some people think
that this print
2676
02:25:10,833 --> 02:25:12,466
was one of the steps for,
2677
02:25:12,500 --> 02:25:15,033
some historians tell
the one of the steps
2678
02:25:15,066 --> 02:25:17,833
for a new style
in Rembrandt's career.
2679
02:25:17,866 --> 02:25:20,600
Come on, big smiles.
2680
02:25:26,966 --> 02:25:30,066
61% of the library's
expense funding
2681
02:25:30,100 --> 02:25:31,666
comes from public sources,
2682
02:25:31,700 --> 02:25:33,833
the majority of that
from the city.
2683
02:25:33,866 --> 02:25:36,133
It's obvious, we want to engage
our elected officials,
2684
02:25:36,166 --> 02:25:37,733
we want to engage our community,
2685
02:25:37,766 --> 02:25:39,466
because we want them to fund us.
2686
02:25:39,500 --> 02:25:41,933
And it brings us
financial sustainability.
2687
02:25:41,966 --> 02:25:44,100
My good friend,
Councilmember Andy King,
2688
02:25:44,133 --> 02:25:46,066
in the Bronx, he likes to say,
2689
02:25:46,100 --> 02:25:48,833
"People pay attention
to people who participate."
2690
02:25:48,866 --> 02:25:51,533
Now, think about that.
2691
02:25:51,566 --> 02:25:52,966
Community boards,
2692
02:25:53,000 --> 02:25:55,366
we're going to community boards,
telling our story.
2693
02:25:55,400 --> 02:25:57,700
PB, we're going to PB meetings,
2694
02:25:57,733 --> 02:25:59,800
telling our story,
pitching projects.
2695
02:25:59,833 --> 02:26:01,333
If we're not participating,
2696
02:26:01,366 --> 02:26:03,533
people are not going
to pay attention to us.
2697
02:26:03,566 --> 02:26:06,033
So civic engagement
is important.
2698
02:26:06,066 --> 02:26:08,700
Building deeper relationships,
what do we do?
2699
02:26:08,733 --> 02:26:10,533
We're out there
trying to improve the lives
2700
02:26:10,566 --> 02:26:13,266
of the people and
the communities that we serve.
2701
02:26:13,300 --> 02:26:15,133
We're trying
to improve their lives.
2702
02:26:15,166 --> 02:26:17,633
Now, how could we not engage
with them?
2703
02:26:17,666 --> 02:26:19,833
How could we not try
to build deeper relationships,
2704
02:26:19,866 --> 02:26:22,133
whether it's with
an individual in the branch
2705
02:26:22,166 --> 02:26:24,266
or with a community-based
organization?
2706
02:26:24,300 --> 02:26:27,133
This is a relationship
that we have with our community,
2707
02:26:27,166 --> 02:26:29,866
and we need to build
those relationships
2708
02:26:29,900 --> 02:26:31,700
as deeply as we can.
2709
02:26:31,733 --> 02:26:34,000
To me, the biggest
practical thing
2710
02:26:34,033 --> 02:26:37,633
to help us about understanding
community engagement
2711
02:26:37,666 --> 02:26:39,500
and really helping
you guys understand
2712
02:26:39,533 --> 02:26:42,900
is to do away
with that feeling of, like,
2713
02:26:42,933 --> 02:26:44,733
"Oh my gosh, another thing.
2714
02:26:44,766 --> 02:26:46,533
Oh my gosh, another thing."
2715
02:26:46,566 --> 02:26:48,033
It's all connected.
2716
02:26:48,066 --> 02:26:51,500
Summer reading is community
engagement and advocacy.
2717
02:26:51,533 --> 02:26:55,042
- Any program you do is community
engagement and advocacy.
2718
02:26:55,066 --> 02:26:57,533
Anytime you bring in an author
or an elected.
2719
02:26:57,566 --> 02:26:59,766
Every time you go
to a community board,
2720
02:26:59,800 --> 02:27:01,700
a participatory
budgeting meeting,
2721
02:27:01,733 --> 02:27:04,733
literally everything we do,
because it's for the community
2722
02:27:04,766 --> 02:27:06,033
is community engagement,
2723
02:27:06,066 --> 02:27:08,766
and we really have to maximize
those opportunities.
2724
02:27:08,800 --> 02:27:10,466
So what we're hoping is that
2725
02:27:10,500 --> 02:27:12,766
the more we help you understand
the big picture
2726
02:27:12,800 --> 02:27:14,266
and connect those dots,
2727
02:27:14,300 --> 02:27:16,633
it's hard to connect the dots
here in NYPL right?
2728
02:27:16,666 --> 02:27:18,333
Because you're split up
by branch.
2729
02:27:18,366 --> 02:27:19,409
You're split up by network.
2730
02:27:19,433 --> 02:27:20,400
You're split up by borough.
2731
02:27:20,433 --> 02:27:21,866
You're split up by department.
2732
02:27:21,900 --> 02:27:23,200
Some of us are out in the Bronx.
2733
02:27:23,233 --> 02:27:25,100
Some of us are at 39th Street.
2734
02:27:25,133 --> 02:27:27,000
Some of us are never
in our offices.
2735
02:27:27,033 --> 02:27:29,300
Some of us are always
in our offices,
2736
02:27:29,333 --> 02:27:31,466
but we're all doing
the same work
2737
02:27:31,500 --> 02:27:32,733
and so that feeling of,
2738
02:27:32,766 --> 02:27:34,242
"Oh, crap, letter writing
is starting,
2739
02:27:34,266 --> 02:27:36,866
"but my summer reading kickoff
is starting
2740
02:27:36,900 --> 02:27:39,533
and I have someone out on AL."
2741
02:27:39,566 --> 02:27:41,933
Like, that's the reality
of your job, right?
2742
02:27:41,966 --> 02:27:44,633
But the more that we understand
the budget cycle,
2743
02:27:44,666 --> 02:27:46,100
the community engagement cycle,
2744
02:27:46,133 --> 02:27:49,100
and the more we understand
that it's year-round,
2745
02:27:49,133 --> 02:27:51,633
the better off we are,
and the easier the lift feels.
2746
02:27:51,666 --> 02:27:53,833
We did it,
we got all this money,
2747
02:27:53,866 --> 02:27:55,776
and now we're having
to do the work to support it,
2748
02:27:55,800 --> 02:27:57,733
but it's gonna start again.
2749
02:27:57,766 --> 02:27:58,766
You know?
2750
02:27:58,800 --> 02:28:00,000
What does Iris always tell us?
2751
02:28:00,033 --> 02:28:01,366
"The budget wasn't baselined,"
2752
02:28:01,400 --> 02:28:02,742
and then we all start
to pull out our hair
2753
02:28:02,766 --> 02:28:04,533
and grumble about
the page budget,
2754
02:28:04,566 --> 02:28:05,966
and so that's just our work.
2755
02:28:06,000 --> 02:28:08,000
We always have to prove
that we're relevant.
2756
02:28:08,033 --> 02:28:10,466
We always have to go back
to the drawing board
2757
02:28:10,500 --> 02:28:12,600
and prove that we're relevant
every single day,
2758
02:28:12,633 --> 02:28:15,033
every single season,
but we are winners.
2759
02:28:15,066 --> 02:28:16,366
All we do is win.
2760
02:28:16,400 --> 02:28:18,333
All those other agencies
want to learn from us,
2761
02:28:18,366 --> 02:28:19,833
because we did it, right?
2762
02:28:19,866 --> 02:28:21,100
We're taking the lead.
2763
02:28:21,133 --> 02:28:23,000
We're working
with our sister systems
2764
02:28:23,033 --> 02:28:25,033
in Brooklyn and Queens,
2765
02:28:25,066 --> 02:28:26,833
but we're taking the lead,
you guys.
2766
02:28:26,866 --> 02:28:28,633
And that is all you.
2767
02:28:45,333 --> 02:28:46,833
Susan, there was a little pop
2768
02:28:46,866 --> 02:28:48,233
of this light.
2769
02:28:48,266 --> 02:28:49,766
It's very subtle, early on.
2770
02:28:49,800 --> 02:28:50,700
I heard it back.
2771
02:28:50,733 --> 02:28:52,100
I think I can get it,
2772
02:28:52,133 --> 02:28:54,033
I can get it in post, yeah.
2773
02:28:54,066 --> 02:28:55,900
It was pretty faint.
2774
02:28:55,933 --> 02:28:57,300
All right, stand by.
2775
02:28:59,166 --> 02:29:01,433
"Presently he came back
with the telephone directory,
2776
02:29:01,466 --> 02:29:05,033
"holding it like a bible,
smiling tenderly.
2777
02:29:05,066 --> 02:29:08,400
"And while he was gazing at her
long drooping lashes,
2778
02:29:08,433 --> 02:29:09,966
"Margot sped through the R's
2779
02:29:10,000 --> 02:29:13,833
"and found Albinus's address
and his telephone number.
2780
02:29:13,866 --> 02:29:17,933
"Then she quietly closed
the well-thumbed blue volume.
2781
02:29:17,966 --> 02:29:22,233
"'Take off your coat, '
murmured Albinus.
2782
02:29:22,266 --> 02:29:23,800
"Without bothering to stand up,
2783
02:29:23,833 --> 02:29:25,900
"she began to wriggle out
of the sleeves,
2784
02:29:25,933 --> 02:29:28,333
"inclining her pretty neck
and thrusting forward
2785
02:29:28,366 --> 02:29:31,600
"first the right
and then the left shoulder.
2786
02:29:31,633 --> 02:29:35,566
"As Albinus helped her,
he caught a hot whiff of violets
2787
02:29:35,600 --> 02:29:37,766
"and saw her
shoulder blades move,
2788
02:29:37,800 --> 02:29:39,566
"and the sallow skin
between them
2789
02:29:39,600 --> 02:29:42,600
"ripple and smooth out again.
2790
02:29:42,633 --> 02:29:44,233
"Then she took off her hat,
2791
02:29:44,266 --> 02:29:46,500
"peered into her pocket mirror
2792
02:29:46,533 --> 02:29:48,000
"and, wetting her forefinger,
2793
02:29:48,033 --> 02:29:49,966
tapped the black lovelocks
on her temples."
2794
02:29:50,000 --> 02:29:52,376
- Uh, let's take that pocket mirror.
- Uh, let's take that pocket mirror.
2795
02:29:52,400 --> 02:29:54,900
Mm-hmm.
2796
02:29:54,933 --> 02:29:56,566
"Then she took off her hat,
2797
02:29:56,600 --> 02:29:58,500
"peered into her pocket mirror,
2798
02:29:58,533 --> 02:30:00,300
"and, wetting her forefinger,
2799
02:30:00,333 --> 02:30:02,566
"tapped the black lovelocks
on her temples.
2800
02:30:02,600 --> 02:30:04,600
"Albinus sat down beside her
2801
02:30:04,633 --> 02:30:06,566
"and looked and looked
at that face
2802
02:30:06,600 --> 02:30:09,200
"in which everything
was so charming...
2803
02:30:09,233 --> 02:30:10,700
"the burning cheeks,
2804
02:30:10,733 --> 02:30:13,533
"the lips glistening
from the cherry brandy,
2805
02:30:13,566 --> 02:30:17,200
"the childish solemnity,
the long hazel eyes,
2806
02:30:17,233 --> 02:30:18,766
"and the small, downy mole
2807
02:30:18,800 --> 02:30:22,966
"on the soft curve
just beneath the left one.
2808
02:30:23,000 --> 02:30:26,100
"'If I knew, I should hang
for it, ' he thought,
2809
02:30:26,133 --> 02:30:29,666
"'I would still look at her.'
2810
02:30:29,700 --> 02:30:32,833
"Even that vulgar Berlin slang
of hers
2811
02:30:32,866 --> 02:30:34,666
"only enhanced the charm
of her throaty voice
2812
02:30:34,700 --> 02:30:37,933
"and large white teeth.
2813
02:30:37,966 --> 02:30:39,866
"When laughing,
she half closed her eyes,
2814
02:30:39,900 --> 02:30:42,766
"and a dimple danced
on her cheek.
2815
02:30:42,800 --> 02:30:47,400
"He pawed at her little hand,
but she withdrew it briskly.
2816
02:30:47,433 --> 02:30:51,166
"'You're driving me crazy, '
he said.
2817
02:30:51,200 --> 02:30:53,200
"Margot patted his cuff
and said,
2818
02:30:53,233 --> 02:30:56,666
"'Now be a good boy.'
2819
02:30:56,700 --> 02:30:58,700
"His first thought
next morning was:
2820
02:30:58,733 --> 02:31:02,233
"it can't go on like this,
it just can't.
2821
02:31:02,266 --> 02:31:04,733
"I must get her a room.
2822
02:31:04,766 --> 02:31:06,533
"Curse that aunt.
2823
02:31:06,566 --> 02:31:09,466
"We shall be alone, quite alone.
2824
02:31:09,500 --> 02:31:12,466
"A textbook of love
for beginners.
2825
02:31:12,500 --> 02:31:14,933
"Oh, the things
I shall teach her.
2826
02:31:14,966 --> 02:31:18,966
"So young, so pure,
so maddening.
2827
02:31:19,000 --> 02:31:21,366
"'Are you asleep?'
2828
02:31:21,400 --> 02:31:23,833
"asked Elisabeth softly.
2829
02:31:23,866 --> 02:31:27,500
"He achieved the perfect yawn
and opened his eyes.
2830
02:31:27,533 --> 02:31:30,233
Elisabeth was seated
in a pale blue nightgown."
2831
02:32:19,600 --> 02:32:23,033
One, two, three, four, okay.
2832
02:32:23,066 --> 02:32:24,933
And these you're going
to return also?
2833
02:32:24,966 --> 02:32:26,733
Return these. Okay.
2834
02:32:30,800 --> 02:32:32,266
Hello.
2835
02:32:34,000 --> 02:32:35,033
25 cents.
2836
02:32:38,100 --> 02:32:40,533
Hello.
2837
02:33:24,500 --> 02:33:27,066
Harney thinks that
2838
02:33:27,100 --> 02:33:29,366
if in America the conflict
between capital and labor
2839
02:33:29,400 --> 02:33:32,266
is not resolved
through a social revolution,
2840
02:33:32,300 --> 02:33:36,266
that what you will end up with
in the United States
2841
02:33:36,300 --> 02:33:38,233
is essentially the same
class-conflict-ridden
2842
02:33:38,266 --> 02:33:40,000
European situation,
2843
02:33:40,033 --> 02:33:42,966
and, like, we've seen,
2844
02:33:43,000 --> 02:33:46,166
the Americans still think
by the 1840s
2845
02:33:46,200 --> 02:33:48,033
that there is such a possibility
2846
02:33:48,066 --> 02:33:51,066
as an alternative future
for American capitalism.
2847
02:33:51,100 --> 02:33:53,966
That capital and labor
don't have to be at odds.
2848
02:33:54,000 --> 02:33:56,133
That the variable of land
2849
02:33:56,166 --> 02:33:59,266
shows this third way
out of this conflict,
2850
02:33:59,300 --> 02:34:01,900
and yet, here is Harney
saying, "No, listen."
2851
02:34:01,933 --> 02:34:03,366
"Already this is a problem
2852
02:34:03,400 --> 02:34:05,200
in the United States."
2853
02:34:05,233 --> 02:34:06,666
That famous quote
that Marx has is
2854
02:34:06,700 --> 02:34:08,966
that labor cannot be free
2855
02:34:09,000 --> 02:34:11,533
where it's branded
in black skin.
2856
02:34:11,566 --> 02:34:14,766
This is specifically
in the United States.
2857
02:34:14,800 --> 02:34:18,533
The key here is that
Marx is saying,
2858
02:34:18,566 --> 02:34:22,800
if capitalists have
the availability
2859
02:34:22,833 --> 02:34:26,866
of both slave labor
and free labor,
2860
02:34:26,900 --> 02:34:28,866
free labor can always be
undermined,
2861
02:34:28,900 --> 02:34:30,433
and, in fact, it was.
2862
02:34:30,466 --> 02:34:32,800
Because Northerners
already were catching up
2863
02:34:32,833 --> 02:34:34,866
to the fact that, you know,
2864
02:34:34,900 --> 02:34:38,666
"There's some black unskilled
laborers here in the North,
2865
02:34:38,700 --> 02:34:40,733
"and whenever these workers
2866
02:34:40,766 --> 02:34:42,833
"start striking
or demanding things,
2867
02:34:42,866 --> 02:34:47,333
we can just introduce
these unskilled people."
2868
02:34:47,366 --> 02:34:50,066
It's just the same principle.
2869
02:34:50,100 --> 02:34:51,666
So Marx is writing, saying,
2870
02:34:51,700 --> 02:34:53,966
look, this is a problem
that must be rid of
2871
02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:56,500
if you even want
to have a development
2872
02:34:56,533 --> 02:35:00,933
of the political workingman
politics in America.
2873
02:35:00,966 --> 02:35:03,700
But, secondly, and this
is the deeper argument,
2874
02:35:03,733 --> 02:35:06,266
which I think
is quite important today...
2875
02:35:06,300 --> 02:35:12,000
There is a very, very,
virulent critique
2876
02:35:12,033 --> 02:35:16,100
of bourgeois society
by Southern ideologues
2877
02:35:16,133 --> 02:35:19,666
that would have been getting
quite a hearing in the 1840s.
2878
02:35:19,700 --> 02:35:22,900
We know because people like
Eric Foner have written about
2879
02:35:22,933 --> 02:35:28,766
how Abraham Lincoln read
this stuff pretty regularly
2880
02:35:28,800 --> 02:35:32,400
in the Richmond Inquirer and all
of these other publications,
2881
02:35:32,433 --> 02:35:34,933
the Southern ideologues
would write to.
2882
02:35:34,966 --> 02:35:37,733
George Fitzhugh, I think
I mentioned him last time.
2883
02:35:37,766 --> 02:35:41,700
He's this well-known
first American sociologist.
2884
02:35:41,733 --> 02:35:43,033
He's a Southern ideologue.
2885
02:35:43,066 --> 02:35:46,866
He believes that slave society
2886
02:35:46,900 --> 02:35:51,166
is better than
a free laboring society.
2887
02:35:51,200 --> 02:35:53,142
- Why? He's got an argument.
- Why? He's got an argument.
2888
02:35:53,166 --> 02:35:54,733
It's coherent,
and there's a logic.
2889
02:35:54,766 --> 02:35:56,100
Here it is.
2890
02:35:56,133 --> 02:35:57,966
Throughout human history,
2891
02:35:58,000 --> 02:36:00,966
we've always had people
who were unfree,
2892
02:36:01,000 --> 02:36:03,466
in order for some
to have the liberty
2893
02:36:03,500 --> 02:36:08,400
to think and to act
and to engage in politics.
2894
02:36:08,433 --> 02:36:11,400
Throughout time
this has been the case.
2895
02:36:11,433 --> 02:36:13,266
Why all of a sudden
2896
02:36:13,300 --> 02:36:16,700
does bourgeois society promise
something it cannot accomplish,
2897
02:36:16,733 --> 02:36:18,766
which is the idea that all can
participate
2898
02:36:18,800 --> 02:36:20,533
in political activity?
2899
02:36:20,566 --> 02:36:23,900
This is the lie
that modern society has.
2900
02:36:23,933 --> 02:36:25,433
That's the problem.
2901
02:36:25,466 --> 02:36:27,733
It's not that there's
this class conflict,
2902
02:36:27,766 --> 02:36:30,176
and that you have these people
who are demanding things... no.
2903
02:36:30,200 --> 02:36:32,466
You've already lied to them.
2904
02:36:32,500 --> 02:36:35,766
The problem is that
what you want isn't possible.
2905
02:36:35,800 --> 02:36:41,233
The idea of a free society
is a failure.
2906
02:36:43,333 --> 02:36:45,600
That's a quote.
2907
02:36:45,633 --> 02:36:49,033
He writes this book called
2908
02:36:49,034 --> 02:36:52,433
Slaves Without Masters,
2909
02:36:52,466 --> 02:36:54,833
that essentially...
2910
02:36:56,766 --> 02:36:58,566
Slaves Without Masters
is the idea
2911
02:36:58,600 --> 02:37:01,133
of the Northern workingmen
for Fitzhugh.
2912
02:37:01,166 --> 02:37:04,366
He says, "Look what happens
when slaves have no masters.
2913
02:37:04,400 --> 02:37:06,433
"No one takes care of them.
2914
02:37:06,466 --> 02:37:07,900
"No one feeds them.
2915
02:37:07,933 --> 02:37:10,633
"No one clothes them.
2916
02:37:10,666 --> 02:37:14,966
"We in Southern society
have figured out the remedy
2917
02:37:15,000 --> 02:37:17,833
to the conflict
of capital and labor."
2918
02:37:17,866 --> 02:37:19,633
And, again, it's articulated
in this way.
2919
02:37:19,666 --> 02:37:22,000
John C. Calhoun,
also a Southern ideologue,
2920
02:37:22,033 --> 02:37:23,866
same way of thinking about it.
2921
02:37:23,900 --> 02:37:26,766
The problem of capital and labor
in America
2922
02:37:26,800 --> 02:37:29,666
is mitigated not by land,
they say,
2923
02:37:29,700 --> 02:37:32,000
but by slavery.
2924
02:37:32,033 --> 02:37:36,166
Richard Hofstadter, one of
the famous American historians,
2925
02:37:36,200 --> 02:37:38,400
writes a short essay
in his very famous book,
2926
02:37:38,433 --> 02:37:40,266
- The American
- Political Tradition,
2927
02:37:40,300 --> 02:37:42,133
That compares Fitzhugh.
2928
02:37:42,166 --> 02:37:47,766
He puts "Fitzhugh,
the marks of the planter class."
2929
02:37:47,800 --> 02:37:51,633
And what he means by that
is that you have here
2930
02:37:51,666 --> 02:37:55,500
a critique of
modern bourgeois society.
2931
02:37:55,533 --> 02:37:57,333
You have a critique of labor.
2932
02:37:57,366 --> 02:38:02,433
You have a critique of
this supposedly free society,
2933
02:38:02,466 --> 02:38:04,866
but you have a critique
from the right.
2934
02:38:04,900 --> 02:38:08,800
One, that as Marx says,
"The working people knew,"
2935
02:38:08,833 --> 02:38:10,976
this is in his address,
and I'm just going to quote it,
2936
02:38:11,000 --> 02:38:12,409
because I know it
off the top of my head.
2937
02:38:12,433 --> 02:38:15,500
This is in the address
that Marx writes to Lincoln.
2938
02:38:15,533 --> 02:38:17,066
This is the...
2939
02:38:17,100 --> 02:38:19,633
on behalf of the International
Workingmen's Association,
2940
02:38:19,666 --> 02:38:21,566
Marx writes a letter to Lincoln.
2941
02:38:21,600 --> 02:38:24,500
And he says,
"The workingmen knew,
2942
02:38:24,533 --> 02:38:28,433
"the workingmen knew that
when slavery was proposed
2943
02:38:28,466 --> 02:38:32,566
"as the solution
to capital and labor,
2944
02:38:32,600 --> 02:38:37,333
"they knew that all of their
hard-earned historical gains
2945
02:38:37,366 --> 02:38:40,400
were in jeopardy."
2946
02:38:40,433 --> 02:38:43,600
So, why Marx was supportive
of the Republicans,
2947
02:38:43,633 --> 02:38:46,633
because Marx knew
2948
02:38:46,666 --> 02:38:49,783
that the attack of bourgeois
society from the right
2949
02:38:49,784 --> 02:38:52,900
that the attack of bourgeois
society from the right
2950
02:38:52,933 --> 02:38:55,700
was also an attack
on any possibility
2951
02:38:55,733 --> 02:38:58,566
of a workers' revolution.
2952
02:38:58,600 --> 02:39:02,466
Because the workers' revolution,
insofar as Marx was concerned,
2953
02:39:02,500 --> 02:39:06,966
was a legacy
from the revolutions of 1848.
2954
02:39:07,000 --> 02:39:08,200
It was a task.
2955
02:39:08,233 --> 02:39:10,533
It was something
that was received.
2956
02:39:10,566 --> 02:39:12,466
So in this sense, what we have
2957
02:39:12,500 --> 02:39:14,866
is many different responses,
essentially,
2958
02:39:14,900 --> 02:39:16,533
to the crisis of
the 19th century, right?
2959
02:39:16,566 --> 02:39:17,766
If one end is Karl Marx
2960
02:39:17,800 --> 02:39:20,900
and the other end is Fitzhugh,
2961
02:39:20,933 --> 02:39:22,900
in the middle, and closer
to Marx, certainly,
2962
02:39:22,933 --> 02:39:23,900
than Fitzhugh
2963
02:39:23,933 --> 02:39:25,300
is Lincoln.
2964
02:39:25,333 --> 02:39:27,233
Lincoln says,
2965
02:39:27,266 --> 02:39:30,700
"The free society is not
and will not be a failure."
2966
02:39:33,200 --> 02:39:36,800
That Lincoln and Marx agree on.
2967
02:39:36,833 --> 02:39:41,633
The definition of that
free society, they disagree on.
2968
02:39:41,666 --> 02:39:43,900
Those two groups of people,
2969
02:39:43,933 --> 02:39:48,533
the liberals and the more
radical, socialist types,
2970
02:39:48,566 --> 02:39:53,100
have so much more in common
than slave planters
2971
02:39:53,133 --> 02:39:57,233
who are arguing that
bourgeois society is a lie.
2972
02:40:07,433 --> 02:40:11,300
It's been good for him.
2973
02:40:11,333 --> 02:40:13,966
I mean, I don't get the...
2974
02:40:48,700 --> 02:40:51,400
Let's hear it, New York!
2975
02:41:36,700 --> 02:41:39,000
Genet took these very
marginalized people,
2976
02:41:39,033 --> 02:41:45,033
and pimps and thieves
and murderers
2977
02:41:45,066 --> 02:41:46,600
and elevated them
2978
02:41:46,633 --> 02:41:49,333
within his pantheon as saints.
2979
02:41:49,366 --> 02:41:51,750
The Thief's Journal
is my favorite book of Genet,
2980
02:41:51,751 --> 02:41:54,133
The Thief's Journal
is my favorite book of Genet,
2981
02:41:54,166 --> 02:41:55,233
but why I love
2982
02:41:55,234 --> 02:41:56,300
Th e Thief's Journal
2983
02:41:56,333 --> 02:41:58,733
isn't necessarily because
of those things.
2984
02:41:58,766 --> 02:41:59,933
Yeah.
2985
02:41:59,966 --> 02:42:05,700
I love it because he takes,
2986
02:42:05,733 --> 02:42:08,500
he writes my kind of memoir.
2987
02:42:08,533 --> 02:42:12,733
It's a memoir,
yet it's completely true
2988
02:42:12,766 --> 02:42:16,100
and simultaneously
completely false.
2989
02:42:16,133 --> 02:42:19,466
Because that's
the kind of guy Genet was.
2990
02:42:19,500 --> 02:42:21,433
But when I say false,
2991
02:42:21,466 --> 02:42:26,966
I mean, that's the part that
he transforms truth into art.
2992
02:42:27,000 --> 02:42:28,833
He elevates it as poetry.
2993
02:42:28,866 --> 02:42:32,233
And in this way it's close
to what Anselm Kiefer says.
2994
02:42:32,266 --> 02:42:35,600
Yes, and I think that, you know,
2995
02:42:35,633 --> 02:42:37,733
I don't even like
reading memoirs.
2996
02:42:37,766 --> 02:42:39,442
People say, "What's your
favorite memoirist?
2997
02:42:39,466 --> 02:42:41,366
Whose memoirs do you like?"
2998
02:42:41,400 --> 02:42:43,333
I hardly ever read them.
2999
02:42:43,366 --> 02:42:45,700
I like fiction, really.
3000
02:42:45,733 --> 02:42:48,766
Really strange that
I should be writing nonfiction,
3001
02:42:48,800 --> 02:42:50,700
but it just happened.
3002
02:42:50,733 --> 02:42:53,866
But, um...
but that's the kind of,
3003
02:42:53,900 --> 02:42:57,800
I was thinking of it
and writing this.
3004
02:42:57,833 --> 02:43:00,500
I didn't want to just sit
and write an autobiography.
3005
02:43:00,533 --> 02:43:03,566
I wanted to, you know...
And you don't.
3006
02:43:03,600 --> 02:43:05,666
Just write about real time,
3007
02:43:05,700 --> 02:43:08,466
which I am living,
and the things that are,
3008
02:43:08,500 --> 02:43:10,633
they're the truth
of my real time.
3009
02:43:10,666 --> 02:43:12,666
But what is the truth
of our real time?
3010
02:43:12,700 --> 02:43:14,533
It contains dreams.
3011
02:43:14,566 --> 02:43:17,766
It contains, you know,
spinning off.
3012
02:43:17,800 --> 02:43:21,566
It contains, uh, uh,
misinterpretation.
3013
02:43:21,600 --> 02:43:23,633
It contains memory.
3014
02:43:23,666 --> 02:43:29,566
So I was very interested
in finding a way
3015
02:43:29,600 --> 02:43:34,533
to braid all of these
things together.
3016
02:44:06,066 --> 02:44:08,966
I'm Gerry Oliva,
Director of Facilities.
3017
02:44:09,000 --> 02:44:11,666
In the spirit
of getting things done,
3018
02:44:11,700 --> 02:44:14,266
Iris actually has been
generous the last two years,
3019
02:44:14,300 --> 02:44:17,566
to set up a fund called
Fix It Now,
3020
02:44:17,600 --> 02:44:21,700
which sets aside a pot of money
for us to take care of items
3021
02:44:21,733 --> 02:44:24,333
that are non-capitally eligible.
3022
02:44:24,366 --> 02:44:26,500
So these can range anything
from, you know,
3023
02:44:26,533 --> 02:44:28,566
doing a paint job,
replacing doors,
3024
02:44:28,600 --> 02:44:30,866
whatever we need to do
in the branches
3025
02:44:30,900 --> 02:44:32,966
to keep things functional
so that they look good.
3026
02:44:33,000 --> 02:44:36,700
In FY15, we actually completed
25 projects
3027
02:44:36,733 --> 02:44:38,300
totaling almost
a million dollars.
3028
02:44:38,333 --> 02:44:41,700
In fiscal year '16, working
with Sites and Services,
3029
02:44:41,733 --> 02:44:46,500
we've identified over 260
projects that need to be done.
3030
02:44:46,533 --> 02:44:47,866
70 of those
3031
02:44:47,900 --> 02:44:50,300
are priority one projects.
3032
02:44:50,333 --> 02:44:52,776
- We completed seven projects to date
- We completed seven projects to date
3033
02:44:52,800 --> 02:44:55,133
And spent a little bit
over $249,000.
3034
02:44:55,166 --> 02:44:58,100
The projects currently are,
3035
02:44:58,133 --> 02:45:00,400
at Inwood, we did new flooring;
3036
02:45:00,433 --> 02:45:02,433
Cathedral,
we did a complete refresh;
3037
02:45:02,466 --> 02:45:03,600
Battery Park City,
3038
02:45:03,633 --> 02:45:06,566
we did a glass-enclosed
multipurpose room;
3039
02:45:06,600 --> 02:45:08,433
Hamilton Grange, a new boiler;
3040
02:45:08,466 --> 02:45:10,666
Pelham Bay, new flooring
and paint;
3041
02:45:10,700 --> 02:45:13,166
St. George, new computer table;
3042
02:45:13,200 --> 02:45:16,900
and we have 11 additional
projects in place.
3043
02:45:16,933 --> 02:45:20,100
We'll continue to work
with Sites and Services
3044
02:45:20,133 --> 02:45:23,100
to reprioritize projects
as necessary
3045
02:45:23,133 --> 02:45:24,766
and to add projects to the list.
3046
02:45:24,800 --> 02:45:25,933
And as long as
3047
02:45:25,966 --> 02:45:27,066
we have the funding,
3048
02:45:27,100 --> 02:45:28,700
we'll spend it and get it done.
3049
02:45:36,800 --> 02:45:38,933
How can we help circulation?
3050
02:45:38,966 --> 02:45:40,866
Where can we add to it?
3051
02:45:40,900 --> 02:45:42,733
Where would we find
an enhancement?
3052
02:45:42,766 --> 02:45:45,533
Um, and Melissa
rightfully pointed out
3053
02:45:45,566 --> 02:45:48,000
that in the ebook category,
3054
02:45:48,033 --> 02:45:51,600
the waits are enormous
to get our ebooks,
3055
02:45:51,633 --> 02:45:53,600
particularly the popular novels.
3056
02:45:53,633 --> 02:45:55,033
Um, and so...
3057
02:45:55,066 --> 02:45:56,700
More so than in-print books?
3058
02:45:56,733 --> 02:45:58,400
More, yes, yes.
3059
02:45:58,433 --> 02:46:00,900
The backlog is, she said,
3060
02:46:00,933 --> 02:46:02,933
I think almost like four
or five months to get.
3061
02:46:02,966 --> 02:46:04,033
Yes, it's terrible.
3062
02:46:04,066 --> 02:46:05,300
It's terrible.
3063
02:46:05,333 --> 02:46:07,500
If one of the ways you want
to spend these funds,
3064
02:46:07,533 --> 02:46:08,833
which has to be in accord
3065
02:46:08,866 --> 02:46:11,333
both what we need to do...
And...
3066
02:46:11,366 --> 02:46:14,133
and what the city wants us to do
with the city's money,
3067
02:46:14,166 --> 02:46:17,066
um, I'd like to see the analysis
3068
02:46:17,100 --> 02:46:20,000
of ebook borrowing,
physical borrowing,
3069
02:46:20,033 --> 02:46:22,200
and whether more money in...
3070
02:46:22,233 --> 02:46:23,966
you know, what the bang
for the buck is,
3071
02:46:24,000 --> 02:46:25,933
and more money
into either of those.
3072
02:46:25,966 --> 02:46:27,633
Ebooks are growing
3073
02:46:27,666 --> 02:46:28,966
at about 300% of circulation,
3074
02:46:29,000 --> 02:46:31,333
and we know that circ
in our libraries,
3075
02:46:31,366 --> 02:46:34,566
physical circ is not growing
at 300%.
3076
02:46:34,600 --> 02:46:36,166
And that the waits,
3077
02:46:36,200 --> 02:46:38,500
the wait time because
of the licensing terms
3078
02:46:38,533 --> 02:46:43,500
is much longer for ebooks
than physical...
3079
02:46:43,533 --> 02:46:45,866
We... I mean, we can definitely
show you the data,
3080
02:46:45,900 --> 02:46:48,766
but it's very concrete
that that's the issue.
3081
02:46:48,800 --> 02:46:51,366
And because we're going out
with SimplyE
3082
02:46:51,400 --> 02:46:54,633
in, I think, early November now,
3083
02:46:54,666 --> 02:46:57,400
adding in more collections
into ebooks
3084
02:46:57,433 --> 02:46:59,733
will drive numbers up hugely,
we believe.
3085
02:46:59,766 --> 02:47:01,009
Well, we'll meet demand,
usually,
3086
02:47:01,033 --> 02:47:02,333
because you can flick a switch.
3087
02:47:02,366 --> 02:47:07,466
And the analysis we did
on educators and grade levels,
3088
02:47:07,500 --> 02:47:09,766
we actually believe
that we can be very specific
3089
02:47:09,800 --> 02:47:10,966
about what we target
3090
02:47:11,000 --> 02:47:12,866
in terms of
which ebooks we go after.
3091
02:47:12,900 --> 02:47:15,200
So we're not just going
to buy, you know,
3092
02:47:15,233 --> 02:47:17,100
whatever is on the street.
3093
02:47:17,133 --> 02:47:19,866
We're actually, we're actually
very carefully looking
3094
02:47:19,900 --> 02:47:21,533
at where we can make it...
3095
02:47:21,566 --> 02:47:23,933
So the big decision there,
so I'm mindful of this,
3096
02:47:23,966 --> 02:47:26,433
because the conversations
I've started to have...
3097
02:47:26,466 --> 02:47:29,233
Yes, this is huge.
Licensing deals we made,
3098
02:47:29,266 --> 02:47:32,633
which were great
and historic four years ago
3099
02:47:32,666 --> 02:47:34,042
favored the thick end
of distribution, right?
3100
02:47:34,066 --> 02:47:36,400
So we got permission
for the first time
3101
02:47:36,433 --> 02:47:39,600
to buy licenses for books,
3102
02:47:39,633 --> 02:47:41,733
but they have to be
borrowed enough
3103
02:47:41,766 --> 02:47:44,633
to justify paying
for a full license,
3104
02:47:44,666 --> 02:47:47,300
whether it's 52 lends,
two years, perpetual,
3105
02:47:47,333 --> 02:47:50,166
whatever, different terms,
different deals.
3106
02:47:50,200 --> 02:47:52,609
- And that's why it's gone up 300%
- And that's why it's gone up 300%
3107
02:47:52,633 --> 02:47:55,166
And why the other libraries
in the country have benefited,
3108
02:47:55,200 --> 02:47:56,633
which is great.
3109
02:47:56,666 --> 02:47:58,833
Now I'm going back
to the publishers and saying,
3110
02:47:58,866 --> 02:48:02,033
"Let's get to the rest
of the tail, right?"
3111
02:48:02,066 --> 02:48:03,433
Let's get free previews.
3112
02:48:03,466 --> 02:48:06,466
Let's get metered rate,
so that it's...
3113
02:48:06,500 --> 02:48:11,100
so that we can offer in effect,
a universal e-catalog.
3114
02:48:11,133 --> 02:48:13,800
The question will still be,
though,
3115
02:48:13,833 --> 02:48:15,700
if you imagine a future
in which we...
3116
02:48:15,733 --> 02:48:18,833
everything is potentially
borrowable, electronically,
3117
02:48:18,866 --> 02:48:20,933
for those who want to,
3118
02:48:20,966 --> 02:48:22,433
we'll still have to decide
3119
02:48:22,466 --> 02:48:27,333
whether we want to put money
into metered rates
3120
02:48:27,366 --> 02:48:30,733
for, you know, a book
that doesn't circulate hugely
3121
02:48:30,766 --> 02:48:33,200
or more for the best sellers,
3122
02:48:33,233 --> 02:48:34,800
and partly that's demand,
3123
02:48:34,833 --> 02:48:37,033
and it's partly what's
the right thing for us to do?
3124
02:48:37,066 --> 02:48:38,066
Right?
3125
02:48:38,100 --> 02:48:39,500
So we'll still have to decide.
3126
02:48:39,533 --> 02:48:41,866
So that e-content, licensing
purchase content strategy,
3127
02:48:41,900 --> 02:48:43,766
that's what
Mike has been talking
3128
02:48:43,800 --> 02:48:47,300
to Melissa
and Christopher about...
3129
02:48:47,333 --> 02:48:50,500
to help you work
through those negotiations.
3130
02:48:50,533 --> 02:48:53,966
So I guess, I understand
the temptation of electronic,
3131
02:48:54,000 --> 02:48:58,366
because if things go
as we hope they are,
3132
02:48:58,400 --> 02:49:03,033
our... the opportunity there
is about to expand,
3133
02:49:03,066 --> 02:49:05,733
if the deals that we're trying
to negotiate work.
3134
02:49:05,766 --> 02:49:09,866
And demand is clearly expanded
more than supply,
3135
02:49:09,900 --> 02:49:13,100
though I would like
to see those numbers.
3136
02:49:13,133 --> 02:49:14,900
But let's go back
and say, you know,
3137
02:49:14,933 --> 02:49:18,000
we also are concerned that
we hadn't been able...
3138
02:49:18,033 --> 02:49:21,733
Because of budget cuts from
the city and more generally...
3139
02:49:21,766 --> 02:49:24,366
We hadn't been able to do
as much increase
3140
02:49:24,400 --> 02:49:27,933
of physical book purchasing
3141
02:49:27,966 --> 02:49:31,066
for circulating
and for the research library,
3142
02:49:31,100 --> 02:49:33,533
and so how does one decide
3143
02:49:33,566 --> 02:49:38,300
between "e-"
and then physical circulating
3144
02:49:38,333 --> 02:49:41,300
and physical research
collections?
3145
02:49:41,333 --> 02:49:43,442
We looked at what's circulating
and what's not circulating
3146
02:49:43,466 --> 02:49:44,633
in terms of physical books,
3147
02:49:44,666 --> 02:49:46,600
and we have some analysis
of that.
3148
02:49:46,633 --> 02:49:48,666
We decided to take
the money this year
3149
02:49:48,700 --> 02:49:51,933
and really focus
on early childhood.
3150
02:49:51,966 --> 02:49:53,266
So we've set up
3151
02:49:53,300 --> 02:49:56,000
specific early childhood
family literacy centers.
3152
02:49:56,033 --> 02:49:57,709
Those, there are special
collections being built.
3153
02:49:57,733 --> 02:49:59,033
This is physical, now.
3154
02:49:59,066 --> 02:50:00,033
Yes.
3155
02:50:00,066 --> 02:50:01,242
Physical collections that align
3156
02:50:01,266 --> 02:50:02,600
with the early literacy program
3157
02:50:02,633 --> 02:50:04,766
that we're putting
in those 20 sites.
3158
02:50:04,800 --> 02:50:06,766
Plus, looking
at the other 60 sites
3159
02:50:06,800 --> 02:50:08,833
that won't have the whole
family literacy centers
3160
02:50:08,866 --> 02:50:10,066
put in there,
3161
02:50:10,100 --> 02:50:11,909
and really look at whether
we have the materials.
3162
02:50:11,933 --> 02:50:13,166
We're also testing...
3163
02:50:13,200 --> 02:50:15,500
This is part of the service
innovation community work
3164
02:50:15,533 --> 02:50:17,100
that we're doing...
We're also testing
3165
02:50:17,133 --> 02:50:19,800
building up nonfiction
children's collections
3166
02:50:19,833 --> 02:50:21,066
that don't float,
3167
02:50:21,100 --> 02:50:23,366
so that we can actually bring...
3168
02:50:23,400 --> 02:50:24,866
and partnering with the teachers
3169
02:50:24,900 --> 02:50:27,566
to make sure we have the right
materials in those centers.
3170
02:50:27,600 --> 02:50:30,066
So rather than sort of
go whole hog
3171
02:50:30,100 --> 02:50:31,442
and decide
"Let's change the whole thing,"
3172
02:50:31,466 --> 02:50:33,133
we're dipping our toes in
3173
02:50:33,166 --> 02:50:35,500
to making sure that
those are the areas.
3174
02:50:35,533 --> 02:50:39,400
Certainly for the more
popular fiction for adults,
3175
02:50:39,433 --> 02:50:41,733
I think we understand
that very well.
3176
02:50:41,766 --> 02:50:43,966
But this is where
we're really trying to focus,
3177
02:50:44,000 --> 02:50:45,600
is in the family literacy,
3178
02:50:45,633 --> 02:50:47,400
and with the schools,
3179
02:50:47,433 --> 02:50:49,833
and then figuring out
for nonfiction materials,
3180
02:50:49,866 --> 02:50:51,100
what should float or not float
3181
02:50:51,133 --> 02:50:52,476
- and we are building
those collections out.
3182
02:50:52,500 --> 02:50:55,333
So we are addressing out
to that physical issue.
3183
02:50:55,366 --> 02:50:58,966
What about the physical research
collection budget
3184
02:50:59,000 --> 02:51:01,033
that we were concerned about?
Yes.
3185
02:51:01,066 --> 02:51:03,600
Not the famous special
collection acquisitions,
3186
02:51:03,633 --> 02:51:05,766
but everything else, right?
Right, but the...
3187
02:51:05,800 --> 02:51:07,776
I think the questions,
are we buying the right things,
3188
02:51:07,800 --> 02:51:10,000
because it's an old collection
development policy.
3189
02:51:10,033 --> 02:51:11,233
It's, like, from 2008,
3190
02:51:11,266 --> 02:51:13,400
and as I said, I really want
the Mellon director
3191
02:51:13,433 --> 02:51:15,466
to get hand-deep into that.
3192
02:51:15,500 --> 02:51:18,000
So depending on where we are
with that, you know,
3193
02:51:18,033 --> 02:51:19,266
we can dig deep into that
3194
02:51:19,300 --> 02:51:21,633
to make sure
we're really spending money
3195
02:51:21,666 --> 02:51:23,500
on things that have
research value
3196
02:51:23,533 --> 02:51:24,633
and are used.
3197
02:51:24,666 --> 02:51:25,966
And I'm not convinced
3198
02:51:26,000 --> 02:51:28,733
that that's totally
the case right now.
3199
02:51:28,766 --> 02:51:31,200
I need to look at that
a little bit.
3200
02:51:31,233 --> 02:51:34,000
You know and I know that,
at a market rate,
3201
02:51:34,033 --> 02:51:37,033
we still have to put more money
into the research collections,
3202
02:51:37,066 --> 02:51:38,600
but we also want to look at that
3203
02:51:38,633 --> 02:51:39,966
in terms of the...
our properties
3204
02:51:40,000 --> 02:51:42,066
and to see whether
the boundary of 50-50
3205
02:51:42,100 --> 02:51:45,200
is a real boundary
or just an agreed-to boundary,
3206
02:51:45,233 --> 02:51:47,533
and maybe there's something
we can do better.
3207
02:51:47,566 --> 02:51:48,800
I just think it's easier
3208
02:51:48,833 --> 02:51:52,066
to raise money
for research collections
3209
02:51:52,100 --> 02:51:54,366
than it is to raise money
for city collections.
3210
02:51:54,400 --> 02:51:55,742
Let's make sure we're putting
it in the right place.
3211
02:51:55,766 --> 02:51:58,566
We're just talking
about one piece
3212
02:51:58,600 --> 02:52:01,133
of the possible allocation
of these funds,
3213
02:52:01,166 --> 02:52:02,266
which is collections,
3214
02:52:02,300 --> 02:52:04,233
electronic,
circulating, research,
3215
02:52:04,266 --> 02:52:07,233
physical and electronic.
3216
02:52:07,266 --> 02:52:09,966
And, you know, the great dilemma
3217
02:52:10,000 --> 02:52:13,700
given constrained
or not infinite resources,
3218
02:52:13,733 --> 02:52:16,833
which, sadly, is our fate,
3219
02:52:16,866 --> 02:52:21,933
is you could spend every dollar
on the best sellers,
3220
02:52:21,966 --> 02:52:24,133
and they would fly out the door,
3221
02:52:24,166 --> 02:52:27,533
but then we would have no money
for the things that...
3222
02:52:27,566 --> 02:52:28,566
We recommend.
3223
02:52:28,600 --> 02:52:31,000
We recommend, or that, you know,
3224
02:52:31,033 --> 02:52:32,533
we need to have
in our collection
3225
02:52:32,566 --> 02:52:34,533
for the off chance
that ten years from now,
3226
02:52:34,566 --> 02:52:35,909
somebody's really going
to need it,
3227
02:52:35,933 --> 02:52:37,400
and there's no place else
to find it.
3228
02:52:37,433 --> 02:52:38,666
We have... Yeah.
3229
02:52:38,700 --> 02:52:40,566
And, in fact,
on the best sellers,
3230
02:52:40,600 --> 02:52:44,300
those, the non-library
circulatory system
3231
02:52:44,333 --> 02:52:47,433
of the best sellers seems
to work pretty well, right?
3232
02:52:47,466 --> 02:52:49,566
Yeah, yeah.
It's not totally socially
3233
02:52:49,600 --> 02:52:52,300
just for those who can't afford
the latest best seller,
3234
02:52:52,333 --> 02:52:54,366
but it's not like
they're not circulating.
3235
02:52:54,400 --> 02:52:56,266
Whereas, I do think
3236
02:52:56,300 --> 02:52:59,033
we have a social commitment
to the backlist
3237
02:52:59,066 --> 02:53:03,733
that isn't circulating, right?
Yeah, yep.
3238
02:53:09,200 --> 02:53:11,900
Tomorrow morning before we open,
3239
02:53:11,933 --> 02:53:13,666
we have to put
them back downstairs
3240
02:53:13,700 --> 02:53:14,866
wherever they were.
3241
02:53:21,600 --> 02:53:23,433
Guys, all,
you also have a chair,
3242
02:53:23,466 --> 02:53:25,733
she's going to show you,
let's go to the other end.
3243
02:53:25,766 --> 02:53:28,266
Let's do that whole table
down there, everybody.
3244
02:53:32,433 --> 02:53:34,866
What's happening?
3245
02:53:34,900 --> 02:53:36,400
Here we go.
3246
02:53:38,700 --> 02:53:40,000
Oh, my gosh.
3247
02:53:44,066 --> 02:53:45,800
Now, who left
their jackets here?
3248
02:53:45,833 --> 02:53:49,766
Whose white jackets were these?
3249
02:53:49,800 --> 02:53:51,117
They were moved here.
3250
02:53:51,118 --> 02:53:52,433
They were moved here.
3251
02:53:52,466 --> 02:53:54,166
So please make sure
you're taking yours,
3252
02:53:54,200 --> 02:53:55,900
not leaving
someone's dirty jacket...
3253
02:53:58,133 --> 02:54:00,966
One of those looks like...
3254
02:54:01,000 --> 02:54:02,466
We all see how it's done guys.
3255
02:54:04,000 --> 02:54:06,133
This is kind of pointless to me.
3256
02:54:06,166 --> 02:54:08,733
This is here,
that's the other one,
3257
02:54:08,766 --> 02:54:10,900
two, three, four.
3258
02:54:10,933 --> 02:54:12,700
Okay, got it.
3259
02:54:12,733 --> 02:54:14,900
Double check if everybody
has a sponsor card
3260
02:54:14,933 --> 02:54:18,333
and a program, please.
3261
02:54:18,366 --> 02:54:19,966
Like that,
let's do that, all right?
3262
02:54:20,000 --> 02:54:22,533
So let's do this table first.
3263
02:54:22,566 --> 02:54:24,200
Make it really symmetrical.
3264
02:54:24,233 --> 02:54:25,400
Do this table,
3265
02:54:25,433 --> 02:54:27,033
work your way there
to the other box,
3266
02:54:27,066 --> 02:54:28,600
set them back.
3267
02:54:28,633 --> 02:54:30,033
Guys... beautiful.
3268
02:54:31,633 --> 02:54:34,066
I'm very proud of this end,
all right, all right.
3269
02:54:34,100 --> 02:54:36,000
You did a very good job.
3270
02:54:46,066 --> 02:54:49,400
And Anthony Appiah has
volunteered
3271
02:54:49,433 --> 02:54:50,900
to tell us about a few items
3272
02:54:50,933 --> 02:54:52,833
in this instance
from the Schomburg Collection,
3273
02:54:52,866 --> 02:54:55,600
a selection of works
by Phillis Wheatley.
3274
02:54:55,633 --> 02:54:56,766
Phillis Wheatley became
3275
02:54:56,800 --> 02:54:58,176
the first African-American
woman poet
3276
02:54:58,200 --> 02:55:02,266
to be published in this country
in 1770.
3277
02:55:02,300 --> 02:55:04,433
But she was born in West Africa
3278
02:55:04,466 --> 02:55:06,666
and sold into slavery
when she was seven
3279
02:55:06,700 --> 02:55:09,066
and brought here and purchased
3280
02:55:09,100 --> 02:55:10,566
by the Wheatley family
of Boston,
3281
02:55:10,600 --> 02:55:11,809
who taught her to read and write
3282
02:55:11,833 --> 02:55:14,433
and seemed to have
encouraged her poetry.
3283
02:55:14,466 --> 02:55:17,766
She arrived in Boston
on the 11th of July 1761
3284
02:55:17,800 --> 02:55:19,200
aboard the Phillis,
3285
02:55:19,233 --> 02:55:21,566
the ship from which
she derived her first name,
3286
02:55:21,600 --> 02:55:22,833
which was recently returned
3287
02:55:22,866 --> 02:55:25,766
from Senegal, Sierra Leone,
and Guinea.
3288
02:55:25,800 --> 02:55:27,833
When the Wheatleys died,
3289
02:55:27,866 --> 02:55:29,476
Phillis married a free man
of color named John Peters,
3290
02:55:29,500 --> 02:55:30,900
who was a grocer.
3291
02:55:30,933 --> 02:55:32,733
The rest of her life
was not so happy.
3292
02:55:32,766 --> 02:55:34,242
Two of their children died
in infancy.
3293
02:55:34,266 --> 02:55:35,376
Peters was imprisoned for debt
3294
02:55:35,400 --> 02:55:39,666
in 1784 and then
Wheatley fell into poverty
3295
02:55:39,700 --> 02:55:42,900
and died and was quickly
followed in death
3296
02:55:42,933 --> 02:55:44,500
by her only surviving
infant son.
3297
02:55:44,533 --> 02:55:48,666
So her poems
are her only legacy.
3298
02:55:48,700 --> 02:55:53,100
Schomburg has Arthur Schomburg's
own copy of an elegiac poem
3299
02:55:53,133 --> 02:55:55,633
on the Reverend and Learned
Mr. George Whitefield
3300
02:55:55,666 --> 02:55:58,666
which was the first poem
Wheatley published.
3301
02:55:58,700 --> 02:56:00,566
Whitefield was an evangelist
in the U.S.
3302
02:56:00,600 --> 02:56:02,966
and the personal chaplain
of Selina Hastings,
3303
02:56:03,000 --> 02:56:04,400
the Countess of Huntingdon,
3304
02:56:04,433 --> 02:56:07,366
who was one of the leading
figures in British Methodism.
3305
02:56:07,400 --> 02:56:10,200
Wheatley's Whitefield elegy
brought her into national fame,
3306
02:56:10,233 --> 02:56:13,366
and it was published in London
as well as in Boston.
3307
02:56:13,400 --> 02:56:15,000
And her reputation
was reinforced
3308
02:56:15,033 --> 02:56:17,500
by the publication
of her poem, "Recollection,"
3309
02:56:17,533 --> 02:56:19,633
which first appeared
in March 1772
3310
02:56:19,666 --> 02:56:22,533
in the London magazine
or gentleman's monthly,
3311
02:56:22,566 --> 02:56:23,833
Intelligencer,
3312
02:56:23,866 --> 02:56:25,242
which was then
more widely published
3313
02:56:25,266 --> 02:56:28,066
in American
and British periodicals.
3314
02:56:28,100 --> 02:56:29,700
So what we have here on display
3315
02:56:29,733 --> 02:56:31,609
are materials all collected
by Arthur Schomburg himself.
3316
02:56:31,633 --> 02:56:36,266
As I say, his copy of the
first poem Wheatley published,
3317
02:56:36,300 --> 02:56:39,233
his first edition of the poems,
3318
02:56:39,266 --> 02:56:41,233
signed by Phillis Wheatley
herself.
3319
02:56:41,266 --> 02:56:44,166
His London magazine
with the poem "Recollection,"
3320
02:56:44,200 --> 02:56:45,766
and a copy
3321
02:56:45,800 --> 02:56:47,900
of Memoirs and Poems
of Phillis Wheatley,
3322
02:56:47,933 --> 02:56:51,533
published in Boston in 1834,
signed by Schomburg.
3323
02:56:51,566 --> 02:56:54,309
- That book, which was published
the year Wheatley died
3324
02:56:54,333 --> 02:56:59,533
By Margaretta Matilda Odell,
was the, is the basis
3325
02:56:59,566 --> 02:57:00,566
of much of what we know
3326
02:57:00,600 --> 02:57:02,600
about Phillis Wheatley's life.
3327
02:57:02,633 --> 02:57:05,800
In a famous poem about her
enslavement, Wheatley wrote,
3328
02:57:05,833 --> 02:57:09,200
"'Twas mercy brought me
from my pagan land,
3329
02:57:09,233 --> 02:57:12,866
"taught my benighted soul to
understand that there's a God,
3330
02:57:12,900 --> 02:57:14,466
"and there's a Savior too,
3331
02:57:14,500 --> 02:57:18,666
once I redemption
neither sought nor knew."
3332
02:57:18,700 --> 02:57:20,366
So we can see
why Thomas Jefferson
3333
02:57:20,400 --> 02:57:21,842
in the Notes on the
State of Virginia,
3334
02:57:21,866 --> 02:57:23,400
might have written that,
3335
02:57:23,433 --> 02:57:26,366
"Religion indeed has produced
a Phillis Wheatley,
3336
02:57:26,400 --> 02:57:28,800
but it could
not produce a poet."
3337
02:57:28,833 --> 02:57:30,800
But this was not the only
judgment of her
3338
02:57:30,833 --> 02:57:32,733
made by one of the founders.
3339
02:57:32,766 --> 02:57:35,166
In 1776 Wheatley wrote a letter
and a poem
3340
02:57:35,200 --> 02:57:37,366
in support of Washington,
George Washington,
3341
02:57:37,400 --> 02:57:39,333
and he replied
with a gracious invitation
3342
02:57:39,366 --> 02:57:40,833
to visit him in Cambridge,
3343
02:57:40,866 --> 02:57:42,766
stating he would be,
3344
02:57:42,800 --> 02:57:47,233
"Happy to see a person
so favored by the Muses."
3345
02:57:47,266 --> 02:57:49,866
I'm very grateful
to Steven Fullwood,
3346
02:57:49,900 --> 02:57:51,833
assistant curator
of Manuscripts, Archives,
3347
02:57:51,866 --> 02:57:53,566
and Rare Books at the Schomburg,
3348
02:57:53,600 --> 02:57:57,533
both for finding this material
and for telling me about it.
3349
02:57:59,600 --> 02:58:03,700
Unless there is other business
before the board,
3350
02:58:03,733 --> 02:58:05,533
we are adjourned, thank you.
3351
02:58:31,666 --> 02:58:32,866
Well, here we are again.
3352
02:58:35,333 --> 02:58:36,166
Thank you for coming.
3353
02:58:36,200 --> 02:58:38,566
Eyes open.
3354
02:58:38,600 --> 02:58:41,700
Smile, smile, yes.
3355
02:58:41,733 --> 02:58:44,433
Yes, that's, I always forget
the smile part.
3356
02:58:44,466 --> 02:58:47,300
There, so you can all see it.
3357
02:58:47,333 --> 02:58:49,300
Okay.
3358
02:58:49,333 --> 02:58:52,633
Eyes wide open, smiles.
3359
02:59:40,233 --> 02:59:42,966
So maybe just talk about
the state of play.
3360
02:59:43,000 --> 02:59:44,800
So you've talked
about it historically.
3361
02:59:44,833 --> 02:59:45,976
You've talked about reparations,
3362
02:59:46,000 --> 02:59:48,933
but this book
clearly is original
3363
02:59:48,966 --> 02:59:51,466
in one significant formulation
among many,
3364
02:59:51,500 --> 02:59:53,466
- but one being that
- but one being that
3365
02:59:53,500 --> 02:59:55,633
You wrestle
with the issue of violence
3366
02:59:55,666 --> 02:59:57,366
within the black community
3367
02:59:57,400 --> 03:00:01,466
in ways that typically are
positioned as an either-or.
3368
03:00:01,500 --> 03:00:03,866
That's... that's...
Either these are explorations
3369
03:00:03,900 --> 03:00:05,500
that are about
the terrible things
3370
03:00:05,533 --> 03:00:06,973
that black people
do to themselves...
3371
03:00:07,000 --> 03:00:08,100
Right.
3372
03:00:08,133 --> 03:00:09,342
Or they're about
the terrible things
3373
03:00:09,366 --> 03:00:10,509
that whites do to black people.
3374
03:00:10,533 --> 03:00:11,633
Yeah.
3375
03:00:11,666 --> 03:00:15,133
But here, and probably
surprising to many,
3376
03:00:15,166 --> 03:00:19,066
you found a way to web...
wed those two things together.
3377
03:00:19,100 --> 03:00:22,133
And that seems to me to be
an explicit response
3378
03:00:22,166 --> 03:00:24,200
to the conversation
we've been having
3379
03:00:24,233 --> 03:00:26,200
about Michael Brown, for example.
Right.
3380
03:00:26,233 --> 03:00:27,876
Right, well, as you said,
it's very much a response
3381
03:00:27,900 --> 03:00:31,166
to an ocean of
"black on black crime"
3382
03:00:31,200 --> 03:00:34,366
or black people not caring
about black on black crime.
3383
03:00:34,400 --> 03:00:37,066
And I think people
who regrettably, you know,
3384
03:00:37,100 --> 03:00:39,400
people who I agree with
quite a bit,
3385
03:00:39,433 --> 03:00:41,566
play into this sometimes
3386
03:00:41,600 --> 03:00:44,000
because they are afraid
of talking about
3387
03:00:44,033 --> 03:00:46,400
"neighbor on neighbor,"
as someone, you know,
3388
03:00:46,433 --> 03:00:47,666
helpfully phrased it for me.
3389
03:00:47,700 --> 03:00:48,876
Neighbor on neighbor crime
that happens
3390
03:00:48,900 --> 03:00:49,976
in African American communities,
3391
03:00:50,000 --> 03:00:52,433
and we say
neighbor on neighbor crime
3392
03:00:52,466 --> 03:00:55,033
because the vast
majority of crime
3393
03:00:55,066 --> 03:00:56,176
that happens in any community
3394
03:00:56,200 --> 03:00:57,733
is done by other
community members.
3395
03:00:57,766 --> 03:01:00,266
That was always true.
3396
03:01:00,300 --> 03:01:01,476
That did not
become true in 1965.
3397
03:01:01,500 --> 03:01:03,009
That has always been true
in black communities
3398
03:01:03,033 --> 03:01:04,176
and in other people's
communities.
3399
03:01:04,200 --> 03:01:05,800
It's just true.
3400
03:01:05,833 --> 03:01:08,566
People don't tend to, you know,
3401
03:01:08,600 --> 03:01:11,033
take the subway
to the other side of town,
3402
03:01:11,066 --> 03:01:12,566
you know, to commit a crime,
3403
03:01:12,600 --> 03:01:14,476
they tend to rob people
who are right around them.
3404
03:01:14,500 --> 03:01:16,300
And in that sense,
the black community
3405
03:01:16,333 --> 03:01:18,433
is just another human community.
3406
03:01:18,466 --> 03:01:19,576
And the fact that
the black community
3407
03:01:19,600 --> 03:01:21,033
suffers more crime
3408
03:01:21,066 --> 03:01:24,000
is part of the oppression,
3409
03:01:24,033 --> 03:01:25,333
not separate
from the oppression.
3410
03:01:25,366 --> 03:01:26,633
Mm-hmm.
3411
03:01:26,666 --> 03:01:28,009
It's not something that,
you know, mutate over...
3412
03:01:28,033 --> 03:01:29,266
it is part of what happens
3413
03:01:29,300 --> 03:01:31,933
when you have
a group of people who,
3414
03:01:31,966 --> 03:01:33,833
over a course of generations,
3415
03:01:33,866 --> 03:01:36,766
have been isolated,
segregated, plundered,
3416
03:01:36,800 --> 03:01:38,966
have had things taken from them.
3417
03:01:39,000 --> 03:01:41,466
The expectation that
the amount of crime
3418
03:01:41,500 --> 03:01:42,676
that happens
in their neighborhoods
3419
03:01:42,700 --> 03:01:44,633
will somehow be the same
3420
03:01:44,666 --> 03:01:46,109
as what happens
in other neighborhoods,
3421
03:01:46,133 --> 03:01:47,566
it's absurd. Right.
3422
03:01:47,600 --> 03:01:49,366
It's just absurd, you know.
3423
03:01:49,400 --> 03:01:51,233
I don't find it hard to explain,
3424
03:01:51,266 --> 03:01:53,500
nor am I afraid of
any sort of conversation
3425
03:01:53,533 --> 03:01:55,533
about the kind of
neighbor on neighbor violence
3426
03:01:55,566 --> 03:01:57,400
that happens in
African American communities.
3427
03:01:57,433 --> 03:01:59,566
What the hell do you
expect to happen?
3428
03:01:59,600 --> 03:02:02,166
Right. It just makes sense.
3429
03:02:02,200 --> 03:02:04,466
You know, I'm black,
I'm African American,
3430
03:02:04,500 --> 03:02:07,200
there is so much
about being African American
3431
03:02:07,233 --> 03:02:10,766
and African American politics
that I don't understand,
3432
03:02:10,800 --> 03:02:12,366
primarily because
in my household
3433
03:02:12,400 --> 03:02:13,866
Malcolm X was Jesus.
3434
03:02:15,533 --> 03:02:17,233
You know, and so,
your orientation is...
3435
03:02:17,266 --> 03:02:18,333
I mean, and that's like,
3436
03:02:18,366 --> 03:02:19,609
again, that's at
the root of this book.
3437
03:02:19,633 --> 03:02:21,076
You know, like
the stress on the body.
3438
03:02:21,100 --> 03:02:24,833
You know, Malcolm's belief,
his anger, his rage,
3439
03:02:24,866 --> 03:02:26,433
you know, at seeing, you know,
3440
03:02:26,466 --> 03:02:28,066
black people beat in the street
3441
03:02:28,100 --> 03:02:30,466
and dogs sicced on black people,
3442
03:02:30,500 --> 03:02:35,633
said to me, "The black body,
your body, is precious."
3443
03:02:35,666 --> 03:02:38,400
Your life is
as precious as anyone,
3444
03:02:38,433 --> 03:02:40,166
and you should not
give up your life
3445
03:02:40,200 --> 03:02:45,966
and you should not give up
your body for rights that are
3446
03:02:46,000 --> 03:02:47,466
already written
in the Constitution.
3447
03:02:47,500 --> 03:02:48,833
I'm making my way very slowly
3448
03:02:48,866 --> 03:02:50,509
right now through this
Barbara Tuchman book
3449
03:02:50,533 --> 03:02:51,766
called A Distant Mirror,
3450
03:02:51,800 --> 03:02:53,876
- it's a history of the 14th century.
- It's a history of the 14th century.
3451
03:02:53,900 --> 03:02:56,500
And she has this chapter
3452
03:02:56,533 --> 03:02:59,500
on serfs, and she goes
through the literature
3453
03:02:59,533 --> 03:03:01,566
of how people talk about serfs,
3454
03:03:01,600 --> 03:03:02,566
and it's no different than
3455
03:03:02,600 --> 03:03:03,966
how people talk
about black people,
3456
03:03:04,000 --> 03:03:07,000
except the substitution
for the science that, you know,
3457
03:03:07,033 --> 03:03:08,166
we use for black people,
3458
03:03:08,200 --> 03:03:09,776
I meant black people
being scientifically,
3459
03:03:09,800 --> 03:03:12,700
you know, genetically inferior,
is replaced by God.
3460
03:03:12,733 --> 03:03:14,533
That's really, really
the only difference,
3461
03:03:14,566 --> 03:03:16,266
so when you get to that,
you say,
3462
03:03:16,300 --> 03:03:19,633
"Well, damn, this is something
about the human condition."
3463
03:03:19,666 --> 03:03:21,733
Like... and I guess
in many ways like,
3464
03:03:21,766 --> 03:03:23,776
that's the power of the
African American experience,
3465
03:03:23,800 --> 03:03:25,100
when you begin to understand,
3466
03:03:25,133 --> 03:03:26,800
there's actually
a statement about
3467
03:03:26,833 --> 03:03:28,766
the human condition.
3468
03:04:50,900 --> 03:04:53,133
As we're seeing
the fruits of our labor
3469
03:04:53,166 --> 03:04:54,300
with all the increased staff
3470
03:04:54,333 --> 03:04:55,766
and increased hours
3471
03:04:55,800 --> 03:04:57,700
and increased
educational opportunities
3472
03:04:57,733 --> 03:05:00,200
that were created.
3473
03:05:00,233 --> 03:05:02,066
And we had a great campaign,
3474
03:05:02,100 --> 03:05:03,600
Invest in Libraries, right?
3475
03:05:03,633 --> 03:05:04,900
I mean, we need to sort of
3476
03:05:04,933 --> 03:05:07,566
tee this up for next year.
3477
03:05:07,600 --> 03:05:13,533
Um, we have to have a new story,
a new priority.
3478
03:05:13,566 --> 03:05:15,666
It can't just be that we want
3479
03:05:15,700 --> 03:05:20,066
to baseline the money
that we got last year.
3480
03:05:20,100 --> 03:05:22,900
I mean, is it seven-day service
3481
03:05:22,933 --> 03:05:25,666
across the entire system?
3482
03:05:25,700 --> 03:05:30,066
Um, is it, you know,
more capital money?
3483
03:05:30,100 --> 03:05:32,600
We have to sort of
formulate that here,
3484
03:05:32,633 --> 03:05:34,800
and before we know it,
3485
03:05:34,833 --> 03:05:37,266
the budget cycle
is going to be upon us.
3486
03:05:37,300 --> 03:05:39,500
I'm sure that they're going
to have their first hearing
3487
03:05:39,533 --> 03:05:41,666
starting at the end of November
3488
03:05:41,700 --> 03:05:43,566
for the next fiscal year.
3489
03:05:43,600 --> 03:05:45,666
So this is sort of
an important moment
3490
03:05:45,700 --> 03:05:47,533
to sort of figure out,
3491
03:05:47,566 --> 03:05:49,433
and you're the ones
3492
03:05:49,466 --> 03:05:51,700
to sort of help us
craft this message.
3493
03:05:51,701 --> 03:05:53,933
To sort of help us
craft this message.
3494
03:05:53,966 --> 03:05:57,200
So I think that
we need to sort of
3495
03:05:57,233 --> 03:06:00,000
start having a discussion
about this and, you know,
3496
03:06:00,033 --> 03:06:01,966
we need to know how much
3497
03:06:02,000 --> 03:06:03,900
can we absorb here, you know?
3498
03:06:03,933 --> 03:06:07,200
It was a phenomenal year
and, you know,
3499
03:06:07,233 --> 03:06:09,633
between Louise
and Christopher, you know,
3500
03:06:09,666 --> 03:06:12,200
hiring these people,
getting them, you know,
3501
03:06:12,233 --> 03:06:14,333
assimilated into the library,
3502
03:06:14,366 --> 03:06:16,133
that's a huge number of people
3503
03:06:16,166 --> 03:06:19,533
to get into the library system.
3504
03:06:19,566 --> 03:06:24,000
Um, so, we need to sort of
figure out what the message is.
3505
03:06:24,033 --> 03:06:26,166
And, you know, it's gonna...
3506
03:06:26,200 --> 03:06:29,566
it's the third year
of this administration.
3507
03:06:29,600 --> 03:06:32,033
We sort of have to have
the right message.
3508
03:06:32,066 --> 03:06:34,500
I believe, George,
that we're beginning
3509
03:06:34,533 --> 03:06:37,766
to get into their psyche
a little bit more.
3510
03:06:37,800 --> 03:06:40,566
So, you know, this is the moment
3511
03:06:40,600 --> 03:06:41,900
to start thinking about that.
3512
03:06:41,933 --> 03:06:42,900
We had asked for $65 million,
3513
03:06:42,933 --> 03:06:43,976
and the $65 million would have
3514
03:06:44,000 --> 03:06:46,566
brought us back to fiscal '08.
3515
03:06:46,600 --> 03:06:47,842
So we didn't get
everything that we asked for.
3516
03:06:47,866 --> 03:06:49,700
But by the same token,
3517
03:06:49,733 --> 03:06:51,633
through the eyes
of our friends in government,
3518
03:06:51,666 --> 03:06:53,266
they may feel that the problem
3519
03:06:53,300 --> 03:06:55,266
as far as library funding
is concerned is solved.
3520
03:06:55,300 --> 03:06:57,400
So that's one of
the big dilemmas
3521
03:06:57,433 --> 03:06:59,433
that we have to deal with
at this point.
3522
03:06:59,466 --> 03:07:00,666
We also know that we had
3523
03:07:00,700 --> 03:07:02,133
over $1 billion in capital needs
3524
03:07:02,166 --> 03:07:03,166
that we were asking for.
3525
03:07:03,200 --> 03:07:04,700
We only received $300 million.
3526
03:07:04,733 --> 03:07:07,200
But the real remarkable thing
that happened last year,
3527
03:07:07,233 --> 03:07:09,433
is for the first time ever
as far as we can remember,
3528
03:07:09,466 --> 03:07:12,066
is that they actually
entered into a dialogue with us
3529
03:07:12,100 --> 03:07:13,600
at a point in the process where
3530
03:07:13,633 --> 03:07:15,766
they had never done that
in the past.
3531
03:07:15,800 --> 03:07:17,766
So to them, again,
on the capital side,
3532
03:07:17,800 --> 03:07:20,366
they may feel
that problem is solved.
3533
03:07:20,400 --> 03:07:22,333
So, we have to get past that.
3534
03:07:22,366 --> 03:07:25,133
We have to articulate
a message this year again.
3535
03:07:25,166 --> 03:07:28,500
And, in addition to
the message around funding,
3536
03:07:28,533 --> 03:07:31,400
we have to continue
applying pressure
3537
03:07:31,433 --> 03:07:33,333
on the community side.
3538
03:07:33,366 --> 03:07:35,766
I mean, that's...
that's a reality
3539
03:07:35,800 --> 03:07:38,166
and that worked last year,
so we have to continue
3540
03:07:38,200 --> 03:07:39,766
applying pressure in that way,
3541
03:07:39,800 --> 03:07:41,366
continue to build relationships,
3542
03:07:41,400 --> 03:07:42,776
not just with
our elected officials,
3543
03:07:42,800 --> 03:07:44,600
but with the groups
and the individuals
3544
03:07:44,633 --> 03:07:46,733
and the users and supporters
3545
03:07:46,766 --> 03:07:49,166
and all the folks out there
that really do love libraries
3546
03:07:49,200 --> 03:07:50,709
and to have them
tell our story for us.
3547
03:07:50,733 --> 03:07:53,366
We have a core group
3548
03:07:53,400 --> 03:07:54,366
of library managers
3549
03:07:54,400 --> 03:07:56,866
who really were phenomenal
last year
3550
03:07:56,900 --> 03:07:58,800
and are gonna
be great this year.
3551
03:07:58,833 --> 03:08:01,533
And, you know, we need
to sort of figure out,
3552
03:08:01,566 --> 03:08:04,166
also, what their roles
are going to be.
3553
03:08:04,200 --> 03:08:08,166
You know, not everybody
is great at this,
3554
03:08:08,200 --> 03:08:10,033
but people can have
buddies and partners
3555
03:08:10,066 --> 03:08:11,733
who can teach them
how to do this.
3556
03:08:11,766 --> 03:08:14,566
For me, the key questions
that we need
3557
03:08:14,600 --> 03:08:16,266
to get our head around
is sort of
3558
03:08:16,300 --> 03:08:19,333
"What is it, what's next
that we want to do,
3559
03:08:19,366 --> 03:08:23,300
or need to do,
or need to fund to do?"
3560
03:08:23,333 --> 03:08:28,466
And what do we think
is a political message
3561
03:08:28,500 --> 03:08:30,400
that our colleagues in city hall
3562
03:08:30,433 --> 03:08:33,166
and city council will embrace?
3563
03:08:33,200 --> 03:08:34,442
I mean, I think
one of the lessons
3564
03:08:34,466 --> 03:08:37,500
we learned last year is
surprise, surprise,
3565
03:08:37,533 --> 03:08:40,766
politicians like
simple messages, right?
3566
03:08:40,800 --> 03:08:44,066
So, six-day service, all right?
3567
03:08:44,100 --> 03:08:46,800
And, you know,
the way to win here
3568
03:08:46,833 --> 03:08:49,433
is to think about
the match between
3569
03:08:49,466 --> 03:08:52,709
- what it is we are delivering
and want to deliver,
3570
03:08:52,733 --> 03:08:57,600
And what is a message that
is easily projected from them,
3571
03:08:57,633 --> 03:09:00,733
so that they can
rally the citizenry
3572
03:09:00,766 --> 03:09:02,800
in support of what they're
trying to do as well.
3573
03:09:02,833 --> 03:09:05,833
And this only works
if we think strategically
3574
03:09:05,866 --> 03:09:08,400
for and with
the political leaders
3575
03:09:08,433 --> 03:09:11,800
and match that
with the substance
3576
03:09:11,833 --> 03:09:14,100
of what we think
we need to deliver
3577
03:09:14,133 --> 03:09:16,100
and need to
find the funding for,
3578
03:09:16,133 --> 03:09:18,300
and that's the intersect
that we're looking for.
3579
03:09:46,533 --> 03:09:49,066
Macomb's Bridge,
as you may not know,
3580
03:09:49,100 --> 03:09:51,233
is the jewel of
the New York Public Library.
3581
03:09:53,633 --> 03:09:55,833
And we do have
3582
03:09:55,866 --> 03:10:00,366
programs such as this
for the community,
3583
03:10:00,400 --> 03:10:02,433
for us to come and talk
and have a conversation.
3584
03:10:02,466 --> 03:10:04,200
And it is about moving forward.
3585
03:10:04,233 --> 03:10:05,566
It's not just about
talking about,
3586
03:10:05,600 --> 03:10:07,333
we can't preach
to the choir, you know.
3587
03:10:07,366 --> 03:10:08,400
Mm-hmm. Right.
3588
03:10:08,433 --> 03:10:09,666
We already know.
3589
03:10:09,700 --> 03:10:11,233
But it is about moving forward,
3590
03:10:11,266 --> 03:10:12,942
and sometimes you have
to take little steps
3591
03:10:12,966 --> 03:10:14,133
to move forward.
3592
03:10:14,166 --> 03:10:16,866
So you have come to talk,
3593
03:10:16,900 --> 03:10:19,066
and there are
five young men outside,
3594
03:10:19,100 --> 03:10:20,266
and I say to them,
3595
03:10:20,300 --> 03:10:22,133
"Hey guys, come on in
3596
03:10:22,166 --> 03:10:24,100
and listen
to Brother Muhammad talk ."
3597
03:10:24,133 --> 03:10:25,876
Because even if they're
in here on the computer,
3598
03:10:25,900 --> 03:10:27,066
that's good enough for me.
3599
03:10:27,100 --> 03:10:28,500
Yeah. Because they're listening,
3600
03:10:28,533 --> 03:10:29,709
and that's what the beauty
of Macomb's Bridge is,
3601
03:10:29,733 --> 03:10:32,166
that we're small, right?
3602
03:10:32,200 --> 03:10:34,600
They chose not to,
and that's fine.
3603
03:10:34,633 --> 03:10:35,800
Latron did.
3604
03:10:35,833 --> 03:10:38,433
Yeah, Latron is over there.
3605
03:10:38,466 --> 03:10:42,866
But they... but there
is this peer kind of thing
3606
03:10:42,900 --> 03:10:44,000
and we've all been children
3607
03:10:44,033 --> 03:10:45,473
and there's that
peer kind of a thing
3608
03:10:45,500 --> 03:10:47,766
and they chose to stay outside
and take pictures while,
3609
03:10:47,800 --> 03:10:50,600
you know, doing
whatever it is that they do.
3610
03:10:50,633 --> 03:10:52,200
This is a first step.
3611
03:10:52,233 --> 03:10:54,166
We also have our writers group,
3612
03:10:54,200 --> 03:10:56,700
which is a group of adults
who come together
3613
03:10:56,733 --> 03:10:59,333
and talk about things
in the community,
3614
03:10:59,366 --> 03:11:00,642
but not only that,
talk about things,
3615
03:11:00,666 --> 03:11:01,676
what's going on in the library.
3616
03:11:01,700 --> 03:11:03,333
You know, the free access
3617
03:11:03,366 --> 03:11:04,566
that we have in the library
3618
03:11:04,600 --> 03:11:06,400
in your own community.
3619
03:11:06,433 --> 03:11:10,566
And you can't
force people to come in
3620
03:11:10,600 --> 03:11:13,666
and take information
that's available to them,
3621
03:11:13,700 --> 03:11:15,666
you can only let them
know it's there.
3622
03:11:15,700 --> 03:11:16,933
From what I see,
3623
03:11:16,966 --> 03:11:19,866
I'm teaching
in the school system.
3624
03:11:19,900 --> 03:11:22,300
I grew up single.
3625
03:11:22,333 --> 03:11:24,500
My mom was young, single.
3626
03:11:24,533 --> 03:11:26,900
I knew my father,
but he didn't live with me.
3627
03:11:26,933 --> 03:11:28,800
My husband, same thing.
3628
03:11:28,833 --> 03:11:32,066
We grew up without
our fathers in our home.
3629
03:11:32,100 --> 03:11:36,500
We grew up, there were
"uncles" there, quote unquote,
3630
03:11:36,533 --> 03:11:40,533
but no fathers were there.
3631
03:11:40,566 --> 03:11:46,433
So, we tried to change that
with our son, you know,
3632
03:11:46,466 --> 03:11:48,866
and made sure that we were there
3633
03:11:48,900 --> 03:11:51,100
and it does make a difference.
3634
03:11:51,133 --> 03:11:53,317
Not only us being
in the household,
3635
03:11:53,318 --> 03:11:55,500
Not only us being
in the household,
3636
03:11:55,533 --> 03:11:57,266
but us being there,
3637
03:11:57,300 --> 03:11:59,533
because you can
still be a family,
3638
03:11:59,566 --> 03:12:02,100
but if you're working 12 hours
3639
03:12:02,133 --> 03:12:04,200
and your husband
is working 12 hours,
3640
03:12:04,233 --> 03:12:07,266
your child is still
being raised by the street,
3641
03:12:07,300 --> 03:12:11,200
or pray to God that
someone in the school
3642
03:12:11,233 --> 03:12:13,033
is caring enough for them
3643
03:12:13,066 --> 03:12:15,700
to let them stay
a little longer.
3644
03:12:15,733 --> 03:12:19,400
I see now, after school programs
start early.
3645
03:12:19,433 --> 03:12:22,300
Some students are out there
6:00 in the morning,
3646
03:12:22,333 --> 03:12:24,166
waiting for the school to open
3647
03:12:24,200 --> 03:12:26,300
because their parents
have to go to work
3648
03:12:26,333 --> 03:12:27,766
to pay these bills
3649
03:12:27,800 --> 03:12:30,300
or to do whatever they
need to do
3650
03:12:30,333 --> 03:12:35,133
and then they go home
8:00, 8:30.
3651
03:12:35,166 --> 03:12:38,066
That's from 6:00 in the morning
3652
03:12:38,100 --> 03:12:39,566
to 8:30 at night.
3653
03:12:39,600 --> 03:12:41,033
There is no family,
3654
03:12:41,066 --> 03:12:42,566
no kind of connection.
3655
03:12:42,600 --> 03:12:43,600
Okay,
3656
03:12:43,633 --> 03:12:46,266
I told a lot of people,
you have to...
3657
03:12:46,300 --> 03:12:48,166
don't depend on anyone.
3658
03:12:48,200 --> 03:12:49,766
Do it yourself,
just believe in yourself
3659
03:12:49,800 --> 03:12:51,166
and keep working at it.
3660
03:12:51,200 --> 03:12:53,533
I couldn't afford
to go to film school.
3661
03:12:53,566 --> 03:12:55,266
I learned from the library.
3662
03:12:55,300 --> 03:12:56,366
I learned how to type.
3663
03:12:56,400 --> 03:12:57,640
I learned how to read a script.
3664
03:12:57,666 --> 03:12:59,276
I learned how to do all that
from the library.
3665
03:12:59,300 --> 03:13:00,409
People say,
"Why didn't you go to school?"
3666
03:13:00,433 --> 03:13:01,733
I was taking care of my kids,
3667
03:13:01,766 --> 03:13:02,776
I couldn't afford it,
couldn't find no job.
3668
03:13:02,800 --> 03:13:04,500
So, I learned from the library.
3669
03:13:04,533 --> 03:13:07,300
But we have to stick together
3670
03:13:07,333 --> 03:13:09,700
and we have to form a group
where we can say,
3671
03:13:09,733 --> 03:13:11,333
"We just ain't going
to take it no more,"
3672
03:13:11,366 --> 03:13:13,200
and just do and look out
for each other.
3673
03:13:13,233 --> 03:13:15,633
We cut each other's
throat a lot.
3674
03:13:15,666 --> 03:13:18,833
Because once somebody get it,
think as, or Nas was saying,
3675
03:13:18,866 --> 03:13:21,033
you know, once you start
getting that money,
3676
03:13:21,066 --> 03:13:23,466
everybody want to go
spend money downtown, they...
3677
03:13:23,500 --> 03:13:25,633
nobody want to bring money
back into the community.
3678
03:13:25,666 --> 03:13:26,633
And then when we try to
3679
03:13:26,666 --> 03:13:27,633
bring back money
in the community,
3680
03:13:27,666 --> 03:13:28,633
we're always trying to get...
3681
03:13:28,666 --> 03:13:30,400
cut each other's throat.
3682
03:13:30,433 --> 03:13:32,066
If we come together,
3683
03:13:32,100 --> 03:13:33,476
it seems like the only time
we come together
3684
03:13:33,500 --> 03:13:36,100
is when something crazy
happens with us, you know?
3685
03:13:36,133 --> 03:13:37,600
As soon as it's over,
it died out
3686
03:13:37,633 --> 03:13:40,200
and everything's back the same.
3687
03:13:40,233 --> 03:13:41,200
Can I say something
3688
03:13:41,233 --> 03:13:42,866
about what he just said?
3689
03:13:42,900 --> 03:13:45,300
My grandmother had a store,
and I'll tell you
3690
03:13:45,333 --> 03:13:46,533
how she lost her store.
3691
03:13:46,566 --> 03:13:47,600
Like almost every other
3692
03:13:47,633 --> 03:13:50,066
black store owner.
3693
03:13:50,100 --> 03:13:52,033
When you have a store,
you have to buy products.
3694
03:13:52,066 --> 03:13:53,166
You have to buy straws,
3695
03:13:53,200 --> 03:13:55,400
you have to buy
brown paper bags,
3696
03:13:55,433 --> 03:13:57,733
you have to buy canned peas.
3697
03:13:57,766 --> 03:14:01,500
So, what happens is you have
to go to your distributor,
3698
03:14:01,533 --> 03:14:04,266
the people who are
distributing these items,
3699
03:14:04,300 --> 03:14:05,800
and most of the time, most...
3700
03:14:05,833 --> 03:14:08,166
Like 99% of the time,
they're white.
3701
03:14:08,200 --> 03:14:10,900
So what basically happened
with my grandmother is
3702
03:14:10,933 --> 03:14:13,833
that they kept going up
on her prices
3703
03:14:13,866 --> 03:14:16,600
of her straws,
of her paper bags,
3704
03:14:16,633 --> 03:14:19,400
of her canned peas,
of her this and that.
3705
03:14:19,433 --> 03:14:22,400
So, every time they went up,
she had to go up.
3706
03:14:22,433 --> 03:14:24,133
But those same distributors
3707
03:14:24,166 --> 03:14:27,233
weren't going up on their prices
in other communities.
3708
03:14:27,266 --> 03:14:28,966
Right. They stayed the same.
3709
03:14:29,000 --> 03:14:30,266
So, basically,
3710
03:14:30,300 --> 03:14:32,833
that's how they basically
get it, get you out,
3711
03:14:32,866 --> 03:14:34,800
and it goes from one thing
to another,
3712
03:14:34,833 --> 03:14:36,900
from farms to our meat markets.
3713
03:14:36,933 --> 03:14:38,500
We have no farms.
3714
03:14:38,533 --> 03:14:39,800
As a matter of fact,
3715
03:14:39,833 --> 03:14:41,766
the government
was sued by black farmers
3716
03:14:41,800 --> 03:14:45,566
over 20 years ago,
and they have yet, to this day,
3717
03:14:45,600 --> 03:14:48,166
got their money for their farms.
3718
03:14:48,200 --> 03:14:50,700
So, I mean, it's terrible.
3719
03:14:50,733 --> 03:14:53,576
- Yeah, and if you notice the neighborhood
- Yeah, and if you notice the neighborhood
3720
03:14:53,600 --> 03:14:55,233
And who owns the stores
3721
03:14:55,266 --> 03:14:59,600
and what we particularly eat
is outrageous prices.
3722
03:14:59,633 --> 03:15:02,066
Like, my mother used
Hellmann's mayonnaise.
3723
03:15:02,100 --> 03:15:03,200
You go to the store now,
3724
03:15:03,233 --> 03:15:05,933
Hellmann's mayonnaise
is like $6.99
3725
03:15:05,966 --> 03:15:08,066
when it should be $3.99.
3726
03:15:08,100 --> 03:15:10,733
And the same goes
for chicken wings.
3727
03:15:10,766 --> 03:15:12,633
It's more than steak now.
3728
03:15:12,666 --> 03:15:15,000
You know,
it's because we eat this
3729
03:15:15,033 --> 03:15:17,600
and we're going
to buy it, you know, so...
3730
03:15:17,633 --> 03:15:19,433
So it's a lot of that going on,
3731
03:15:19,466 --> 03:15:22,400
but it's almost
every single aspect
3732
03:15:22,433 --> 03:15:25,700
of our lives
are hit some kind of way.
3733
03:15:25,733 --> 03:15:27,733
We talk about
these things that we need
3734
03:15:27,766 --> 03:15:29,966
for our children
in the communities,
3735
03:15:30,000 --> 03:15:33,600
but we don't have 'em
in the communities for them.
3736
03:15:33,633 --> 03:15:37,633
We don't have this... these tapes
3737
03:15:37,666 --> 03:15:41,700
that show and tell
their true history.
3738
03:15:41,733 --> 03:15:44,466
The only thing we have
available for them
3739
03:15:44,500 --> 03:15:50,033
are textbooks that
tell them untruths.
3740
03:15:50,066 --> 03:15:51,566
Like McGraw Hill,
3741
03:15:51,600 --> 03:15:54,633
they're still printing
untruths about our lives.
3742
03:15:54,666 --> 03:15:55,800
Would you tell everyone
3743
03:15:55,833 --> 03:15:57,333
about what happened
with McGraw Hill,
3744
03:15:57,366 --> 03:15:59,300
because it's an
interesting example.
3745
03:15:59,333 --> 03:16:02,700
Okay, McGraw Hill, we spend
millions, billions of dollars
3746
03:16:02,733 --> 03:16:06,866
across our country,
giving them the right
3747
03:16:06,900 --> 03:16:09,300
to write textbooks that we use
3748
03:16:09,333 --> 03:16:12,666
to educate our children
on a daily basis.
3749
03:16:12,700 --> 03:16:18,766
So they wrote a textbook,
and in it, it mentioned,
3750
03:16:18,800 --> 03:16:21,333
it was a section about slavery
3751
03:16:21,366 --> 03:16:23,466
and it said something
to the effect,
3752
03:16:23,500 --> 03:16:25,000
I don't want to quote,
3753
03:16:25,033 --> 03:16:32,600
but the slaves came
to America as workers
3754
03:16:32,633 --> 03:16:37,233
to lighten the load,
but the thing that...
3755
03:16:37,266 --> 03:16:42,300
The significant point is
when it... they were contacted,
3756
03:16:42,333 --> 03:16:44,233
they said that they did it
3757
03:16:44,266 --> 03:16:48,266
and they will only
change the writing
3758
03:16:48,300 --> 03:16:52,200
if someone calls them and asks.
3759
03:16:52,233 --> 03:16:55,433
So if you haven't
heard about it,
3760
03:16:55,466 --> 03:16:57,566
your schools haven't
heard about it,
3761
03:16:57,600 --> 03:16:59,500
the books won't be changed.
3762
03:16:59,533 --> 03:17:01,700
So this is information
3763
03:17:01,733 --> 03:17:05,100
that we are allowing
our children to hear
3764
03:17:05,133 --> 03:17:06,866
because the Department of Ed,
3765
03:17:06,900 --> 03:17:09,700
they have a big contract
with McGraw Hill.
3766
03:17:09,733 --> 03:17:12,366
Yeah, so...
So what do we do about that?
3767
03:17:12,400 --> 03:17:14,166
So McGraw Hill,
in a geography book,
3768
03:17:14,200 --> 03:17:18,300
as you just described,
describes, on a section,
3769
03:17:18,333 --> 03:17:21,100
immigration, and it's looking at
3770
03:17:21,133 --> 03:17:23,800
how this diverse,
very diverse country,
3771
03:17:23,833 --> 03:17:26,600
a nation, that we often say,
of immigrants,
3772
03:17:26,633 --> 03:17:28,200
where did its people come from?
3773
03:17:28,233 --> 03:17:30,833
And it's pitched to
a ninth grade audience
3774
03:17:30,866 --> 03:17:33,966
of social studies students
learning geography,
3775
03:17:34,000 --> 03:17:35,333
and in the section that looks at
3776
03:17:35,366 --> 03:17:37,166
the southeast corner
of the United States
3777
03:17:37,200 --> 03:17:39,800
it's purple, meant
to denote African Americans.
3778
03:17:39,833 --> 03:17:43,300
And there's a little bubble
that jumps out and says,
3779
03:17:43,333 --> 03:17:47,366
between the 1500s and 1800s,
immigrants from Africa
3780
03:17:47,400 --> 03:17:51,466
came to work in the southeast
part of the country.
3781
03:17:51,500 --> 03:17:52,942
- I'm paraphrasing.
- I'm paraphrasing.
3782
03:17:52,966 --> 03:17:54,566
Literally referred
to immigrants...
3783
03:17:54,600 --> 03:17:56,266
black people
as immigrant workers.
3784
03:17:56,300 --> 03:17:57,400
Workers, yeah.
3785
03:17:57,433 --> 03:17:59,566
Now, that was egregious enough,
3786
03:17:59,600 --> 03:18:02,033
but the irony,
that in the passage
3787
03:18:02,066 --> 03:18:03,833
referencing indentured servants
3788
03:18:03,866 --> 03:18:07,933
to explain how people
of lower economic status
3789
03:18:07,966 --> 03:18:11,266
from England and Australia
arrived here,
3790
03:18:11,300 --> 03:18:15,366
said that indentured servants
came and often had to work,
3791
03:18:15,400 --> 03:18:18,933
had to do difficult work
for little or no pay.
3792
03:18:18,966 --> 03:18:23,600
So in reference to the quality
of their experience
3793
03:18:23,633 --> 03:18:27,233
and their recompense
for their contribution,
3794
03:18:27,266 --> 03:18:29,433
there's actually
a qualitative judgment
3795
03:18:29,466 --> 03:18:31,433
about what happened
to indentured servants
3796
03:18:31,466 --> 03:18:35,100
and nothing with reference
to people of African descent.
3797
03:18:35,133 --> 03:18:36,966
And it is hard to justify this.
3798
03:18:37,000 --> 03:18:39,433
There's a page of advisors.
3799
03:18:39,466 --> 03:18:42,866
There's an editorial board,
and unfortunately
3800
03:18:42,900 --> 03:18:46,700
Texas is where this textbook
was being used,
3801
03:18:46,733 --> 03:18:48,733
which is the largest
textbook market in the country
3802
03:18:48,766 --> 03:18:50,966
and this happens,
you know, in 2015.
3803
03:18:51,000 --> 03:18:52,166
The one thing I'll say,
3804
03:18:52,200 --> 03:18:53,966
and this is a very
exceptional thing to say,
3805
03:18:54,000 --> 03:18:55,366
but it is true.
3806
03:18:55,400 --> 03:18:58,066
This community happens to be
very different than many others.
3807
03:18:58,100 --> 03:18:59,433
You do have
the Schomburg Center.
3808
03:18:59,466 --> 03:19:00,833
Yes.
3809
03:19:00,866 --> 03:19:02,233
So, you do have a place
3810
03:19:02,266 --> 03:19:04,533
where you can spend
the rest of your life
3811
03:19:04,566 --> 03:19:07,000
and sending your children there
for the rest of their lives
3812
03:19:07,033 --> 03:19:09,333
to learn the truth,
and the truth is complicated,
3813
03:19:09,366 --> 03:19:12,366
but you certainly can draw upon
the collective wisdom
3814
03:19:12,400 --> 03:19:13,866
of people who have
thought deeply
3815
03:19:13,900 --> 03:19:16,833
and paid very close attention
to the historical record
3816
03:19:16,866 --> 03:19:19,266
to correct
the mythologies and lies
3817
03:19:19,300 --> 03:19:21,700
about people of African descent
in this country.
3818
03:19:21,733 --> 03:19:23,033
So we know that,
3819
03:19:23,066 --> 03:19:25,800
you know, the average woman
makes 77 cents on the dollar
3820
03:19:25,833 --> 03:19:27,000
that the average man makes.
3821
03:19:27,033 --> 03:19:28,642
The black woman makes
62 cents on the dollar
3822
03:19:28,666 --> 03:19:30,500
for every dollar
that a white man makes
3823
03:19:30,533 --> 03:19:32,833
and even less than
her white counterpart.
3824
03:19:32,866 --> 03:19:35,333
So are you supposed to walk
into the marketplace
3825
03:19:35,366 --> 03:19:37,533
and say "Yeah, pay me less
than everybody else?"
3826
03:19:37,566 --> 03:19:39,633
Or are you supposed to say,
"I want to be part
3827
03:19:39,666 --> 03:19:42,100
"of making sure that the women
who come behind me
3828
03:19:42,133 --> 03:19:46,300
are paid equally for their
contribution to our economy"?
3829
03:19:46,333 --> 03:19:47,466
So that's troubling.
3830
03:19:47,500 --> 03:19:49,133
And I'm not sure
where that came from
3831
03:19:49,166 --> 03:19:52,566
other than this notion
that there's a price to be paid
3832
03:19:52,600 --> 03:19:55,000
for standing up for justice
and inequality.
3833
03:19:55,033 --> 03:19:56,400
And that's certainly true.
3834
03:19:56,433 --> 03:20:00,300
But if we don't teach our kids
at an earlier date
3835
03:20:00,333 --> 03:20:03,233
something different
about privileging values
3836
03:20:03,266 --> 03:20:04,866
in how we govern ourselves
in the world
3837
03:20:04,900 --> 03:20:06,100
and how we think about people
3838
03:20:06,133 --> 03:20:07,733
and how we relate
to one another,
3839
03:20:07,766 --> 03:20:10,066
then I'm afraid
we will be reproducing
3840
03:20:10,100 --> 03:20:12,466
the same outcomes
as we move forward.
3841
03:20:27,833 --> 03:20:31,066
But I fell in love with this man
3842
03:20:31,100 --> 03:20:32,833
who wanted to
understand the world
3843
03:20:32,866 --> 03:20:35,900
and he's an extraordinary person
3844
03:20:35,933 --> 03:20:37,042
who leads me towards porcelain.
3845
03:20:37,066 --> 03:20:39,033
Tschirnhaus thinks
that it's possible
3846
03:20:39,066 --> 03:20:42,500
to analyze the products
of the arts
3847
03:20:42,533 --> 03:20:45,000
in a philosophical manner
3848
03:20:45,033 --> 03:20:48,033
that boats and bridges
and buildings
3849
03:20:48,066 --> 03:20:51,700
should be considered
as the arts of invention.
3850
03:20:51,733 --> 03:20:53,609
- These objects can train
- These objects can train
3851
03:20:53,633 --> 03:20:56,933
What he calls
the active imagination.
3852
03:20:56,966 --> 03:20:58,266
Because they exhibit
3853
03:20:58,300 --> 03:21:01,033
all the possibilities
of imagination.
3854
03:21:01,066 --> 03:21:03,000
In fact, I realize,
3855
03:21:03,033 --> 03:21:06,166
he takes on the world
as possibility.
3856
03:21:06,200 --> 03:21:07,866
As you walk down the street
3857
03:21:07,900 --> 03:21:10,100
there's nothing
in the material world
3858
03:21:10,133 --> 03:21:12,966
that you encounter
that cannot be brought
3859
03:21:13,000 --> 03:21:16,100
into this space of reflection,
3860
03:21:16,133 --> 03:21:18,100
and at each point
of this reflection
3861
03:21:18,133 --> 03:21:21,233
as you pause and look
with dedication,
3862
03:21:21,266 --> 03:21:23,633
at this lamppost, this gateway,
3863
03:21:23,666 --> 03:21:27,366
you recreate the manner
of its creation.
3864
03:21:27,400 --> 03:21:30,533
You move through
the series of actions
3865
03:21:30,566 --> 03:21:33,933
that caused it
to come into being.
3866
03:21:33,966 --> 03:21:36,433
And above all,
he's interested, he writes,
3867
03:21:36,466 --> 03:21:39,733
in how to obtain
what should be observed
3868
03:21:39,766 --> 03:21:44,000
in the first mode
of the formation of things.
3869
03:21:44,033 --> 03:21:46,766
How something comes into being
is critical.
3870
03:21:46,800 --> 03:21:48,866
It's a kind of poiesis.
3871
03:21:48,900 --> 03:21:51,766
And when I read this,
my heart swells.
3872
03:21:51,800 --> 03:21:53,700
This is my rubric,
3873
03:21:53,733 --> 03:21:56,633
of my journey to my white hills,
3874
03:21:56,666 --> 03:21:58,833
this tracing
of the first formation
3875
03:21:58,866 --> 03:22:03,033
of porcelain from white earth
into something else.
3876
03:22:03,066 --> 03:22:07,166
Tschirnhaus is describing
with a passionate lucidity
3877
03:22:07,200 --> 03:22:09,266
the value of looking
and thinking
3878
03:22:09,300 --> 03:22:12,066
about how an object
3879
03:22:12,100 --> 03:22:13,733
as an idea comes into being.
3880
03:22:13,766 --> 03:22:15,233
Primo Levi,
3881
03:22:15,266 --> 03:22:17,700
my hero, wrote in The Wrench
3882
03:22:17,733 --> 03:22:20,800
of the advantage of
being able to test yourself,
3883
03:22:20,833 --> 03:22:22,966
not depending on others
in the test,
3884
03:22:23,000 --> 03:22:25,300
reflecting yourself
in your work,
3885
03:22:25,333 --> 03:22:27,900
on the pleasure of seeing
your creature grow,
3886
03:22:27,933 --> 03:22:30,433
beam after beam,
bolt after bolt.
3887
03:22:30,466 --> 03:22:35,766
Necessary, symmetrical,
suited to purpose,
3888
03:22:35,800 --> 03:22:37,900
by which Primo Levi, a chemist
3889
03:22:37,933 --> 03:22:40,933
who spent his working life
analyzing paint
3890
03:22:40,966 --> 03:22:42,866
as well as being a writer,
3891
03:22:42,900 --> 03:22:45,966
means that method
is interesting.
3892
03:22:46,000 --> 03:22:49,000
Be very, very careful
when you describe
3893
03:22:49,033 --> 03:22:51,700
how something is made,
how it comes into shape,
3894
03:22:51,733 --> 03:22:54,866
as process is not
to be skated over.
3895
03:22:54,900 --> 03:22:56,233
The manner of what we make
3896
03:22:56,266 --> 03:22:58,200
defines us.
3897
03:22:59,866 --> 03:23:03,833
Music and your work.
3898
03:23:03,866 --> 03:23:06,333
Music occupies your life...
3899
03:23:06,366 --> 03:23:09,433
Yes... and you work to it.
3900
03:23:09,466 --> 03:23:13,166
And it was this wonderful piece
3901
03:23:13,200 --> 03:23:15,733
that I read where you talk about
3902
03:23:15,766 --> 03:23:20,000
the various musical moments
that mattered to you
3903
03:23:20,033 --> 03:23:23,500
from Keith Jarret to Purcell
3904
03:23:23,533 --> 03:23:25,833
to the piece we're going
to listen to if we could.
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