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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:16,817 --> 00:00:19,320 ARTHUR KANE: It took me over an hour to get-- uh, get there. 2 00:00:19,420 --> 00:00:24,192 The Santa Monica bus from, uh, over here, uh-- 3 00:00:24,292 --> 00:00:28,229 Santa Monica and, um, Wilshire. 4 00:00:28,329 --> 00:00:30,598 Took me over an hour to get into Hollywood. 5 00:00:30,698 --> 00:00:32,800 Should wait til the-- we should get the four, 6 00:00:32,900 --> 00:00:34,335 the next one that's coming. 7 00:00:34,435 --> 00:00:37,105 This doesn't stop at the, um, the Family History Center. 8 00:00:37,205 --> 00:00:40,007 I'm still, uh, at this point-- 9 00:00:40,108 --> 00:00:41,109 I'm single. 10 00:00:41,209 --> 00:00:42,976 I'm not married. 11 00:00:43,077 --> 00:00:45,012 I'm eligible to go out on dates. 12 00:00:45,113 --> 00:00:47,448 I'm available for that type of stuff, 13 00:00:47,548 --> 00:00:52,220 but because I work in the-- uh, I work in the temple, 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,855 I have to go very easy on these relationships. 15 00:00:54,955 --> 00:00:59,026 And it's not, you know, instant sex and wham, bam, thank you, 16 00:00:59,127 --> 00:01:00,428 ma'am stuff, you know? 17 00:01:00,528 --> 00:01:04,165 I just-- this is not, you know, what it once was. 18 00:01:04,265 --> 00:01:06,033 We don't even live in a world that-- 19 00:01:06,134 --> 00:01:09,303 that world doesn't exist anymore. 20 00:01:09,403 --> 00:01:13,073 And so I'm spoiled from the past. 21 00:01:13,174 --> 00:01:14,642 And it's hard to-- 22 00:01:14,742 --> 00:01:16,344 it's hard to put those-- 23 00:01:16,444 --> 00:01:20,714 those memories kind of get-- uh, it's hard to put them away. 24 00:01:20,814 --> 00:01:22,150 They're my fondest memories. 25 00:01:22,250 --> 00:01:24,818 [MUSIC - JOHNNY THUNDERS, "YOU CAN'T PUT 26 00:01:24,918 --> 00:01:30,090 YOUR ARMS AROUND A MEMORY"] 27 00:01:30,191 --> 00:01:34,662 JOHNNY THUNDERS: [singing] It doesn't pay to try. 28 00:01:34,762 --> 00:01:38,432 All the smart boys know why. 29 00:01:38,532 --> 00:01:40,834 It doesn't mean I didn't try. 30 00:01:40,934 --> 00:01:44,205 People that get into bands and people that are musicians, 31 00:01:44,305 --> 00:01:46,174 whether they are conscious of it or not, 32 00:01:46,274 --> 00:01:48,142 they're usually looking for something up there. 33 00:01:48,242 --> 00:01:49,610 And they're usually looking for the truth. 34 00:01:49,710 --> 00:01:52,913 Arthur told me, I want to start this band, a really 35 00:01:53,013 --> 00:01:54,648 wild rock and roll band. 36 00:01:54,748 --> 00:01:57,418 And, uh, I want to call it the Dolls. 37 00:01:57,518 --> 00:01:59,387 Gee, that's a great name. 38 00:01:59,487 --> 00:02:01,422 For, for, for a rock band, Doll. 39 00:02:01,522 --> 00:02:02,756 The Dolls? 40 00:02:02,856 --> 00:02:03,924 This is a great thing. 41 00:02:04,024 --> 00:02:05,493 He had a groove. 42 00:02:05,593 --> 00:02:07,361 The groove came out of the fact he loved the band he was in 43 00:02:07,461 --> 00:02:08,729 and loved the song he was playing. 44 00:02:08,829 --> 00:02:13,234 On stage, um, he moved a bit robotically, kind 45 00:02:13,334 --> 00:02:15,068 of like a giant Frankenstein. 46 00:02:15,169 --> 00:02:17,871 He doesn't look like he would be that active. 47 00:02:17,971 --> 00:02:22,042 Arthur couldn't breathe and play bass at the same time. 48 00:02:22,142 --> 00:02:24,778 He would take, like, a deep breath [breathes in], and then, 49 00:02:24,878 --> 00:02:27,181 like, bang out a bunch of notes, and then stop and then take 50 00:02:27,281 --> 00:02:29,016 a deep breath, [breathes in], and then 51 00:02:29,116 --> 00:02:30,017 bang out a bunch of notes. 52 00:02:30,117 --> 00:02:31,885 And that was the uniqueness. 53 00:02:31,985 --> 00:02:35,122 You don't, kind of, mix a tutu with engineer boots. 54 00:02:35,223 --> 00:02:36,390 But Arthur would take the engineer boots 55 00:02:36,490 --> 00:02:38,592 and paint them yellow or something. 56 00:02:38,692 --> 00:02:40,728 And so on the one hand he seemed, kind of, 57 00:02:40,828 --> 00:02:42,363 a bit effeminate, but on the other hand, 58 00:02:42,463 --> 00:02:45,966 he was a very big, solid, macho guy. 59 00:02:46,066 --> 00:02:47,134 JOHNNY THUNDERS: [singing] You can't 60 00:02:47,235 --> 00:02:49,703 put your arm around a memory. 61 00:02:49,803 --> 00:02:50,704 Don't try. 62 00:02:56,176 --> 00:02:57,278 Don't try. 63 00:03:05,519 --> 00:03:12,760 You're just a bastard kid, and you got no name. 64 00:03:12,860 --> 00:03:21,302 Cause you're living with me, we're one and the same. 65 00:03:21,402 --> 00:03:25,339 And even though they don't show-- 66 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:27,675 NINA ANTONIA: Where Arthur was was struggling with alcohol, 67 00:03:27,775 --> 00:03:30,411 Johnny and Jerry were struggling with heroine. 68 00:03:30,511 --> 00:03:32,346 BOB GRUEN: Arthur was too drunk to play. 69 00:03:32,446 --> 00:03:36,350 And because Johnny and Jerry were too stoned to play, 70 00:03:36,450 --> 00:03:39,687 the drums became more important to them than the band. 71 00:03:39,787 --> 00:03:41,822 From driving around in limousines and playing 72 00:03:41,922 --> 00:03:45,125 in the Olympia Theatre and living some type of, you know, 73 00:03:45,225 --> 00:03:49,930 truly magnificent-- um, to living 74 00:03:50,030 --> 00:03:53,200 a life that most people don't get a chance to live on Earth. 75 00:03:53,301 --> 00:03:57,705 To having that and then losing that-- 76 00:03:57,805 --> 00:04:03,110 losing that because of bad behavior and our use of drugs 77 00:04:03,210 --> 00:04:04,545 and all of that stuff. 78 00:04:04,645 --> 00:04:09,383 We-- we had lost the New York Dolls just a few years 79 00:04:09,483 --> 00:04:11,885 into-- into the whole thing. 80 00:04:15,188 --> 00:04:16,490 JOHNNY THUNDERS: [singing] Don't try. 81 00:04:21,395 --> 00:04:22,496 Don't try. 82 00:04:25,399 --> 00:04:26,900 Don't try. 83 00:04:33,407 --> 00:04:34,508 Don't try. 84 00:04:44,385 --> 00:04:48,689 I'm demoted from rock star to shlub on the bus. 85 00:05:02,269 --> 00:05:03,070 Gotta go. 86 00:05:11,579 --> 00:05:13,514 INTERVIEWER: How did you get the name Killer Kane? 87 00:05:13,614 --> 00:05:14,715 OK. 88 00:05:14,815 --> 00:05:17,618 The first article written about the New York Dolls 89 00:05:17,718 --> 00:05:19,286 mentioned killer bass lines. 90 00:05:19,387 --> 00:05:21,955 Killer as a descriptive adjective 91 00:05:22,055 --> 00:05:26,293 talking about, uh, my bass playing, killer bass lines. 92 00:05:26,394 --> 00:05:33,934 But one of the adversaries of, um, Buck Rogers 93 00:05:34,034 --> 00:05:37,971 was someone they called The Leader Kane, or Killer Kane. 94 00:05:38,071 --> 00:05:39,873 Hey, Killer. 95 00:05:39,973 --> 00:05:41,174 I became Killer Kane. 96 00:05:41,274 --> 00:05:42,876 Hey, Killer. 97 00:05:42,976 --> 00:05:44,445 Yeah, Killer Kane. 98 00:05:44,545 --> 00:05:47,415 That's Arthur. 99 00:05:47,515 --> 00:05:50,217 You wouldn't know it, because he's very quiet. 100 00:05:50,317 --> 00:05:51,485 He's very quiet. 101 00:05:51,585 --> 00:05:53,754 And-- but he's-- he's-- 102 00:05:53,854 --> 00:05:54,888 that's true. 103 00:05:54,988 --> 00:05:57,357 He's still-- he's still got the playing in him. 104 00:05:57,458 --> 00:05:58,992 You never forget that, I guess. 105 00:05:59,092 --> 00:06:04,965 Because my name is Arthur, the guitar's nickname is Excalibur. 106 00:06:05,065 --> 00:06:06,467 And we want to get-- 107 00:06:06,567 --> 00:06:09,803 according to the legend-- straight, Excalibur is not-- 108 00:06:09,903 --> 00:06:12,172 is not the name of the sword that Arthur 109 00:06:12,272 --> 00:06:14,408 drew from the stone. 110 00:06:14,508 --> 00:06:19,480 Excalibur is the name of the sword given to Arthur 111 00:06:19,580 --> 00:06:22,450 by the Lady of the Lake. 112 00:06:22,550 --> 00:06:24,184 I am the anchorman. - Are you? 113 00:06:24,284 --> 00:06:25,185 To tell the truth, um-- 114 00:06:25,285 --> 00:06:26,754 OK. 115 00:06:26,854 --> 00:06:30,357 Even if-- even if, um, I don't actually count off the song, 116 00:06:30,458 --> 00:06:34,828 I'm responsible for, um, keeping the tempo, uh-- 117 00:06:34,928 --> 00:06:36,029 Yes. 118 00:06:36,129 --> 00:06:38,432 Maintaining that everything is flowing smoothly, 119 00:06:38,532 --> 00:06:41,168 and that all the beginnings and ends of the songs 120 00:06:41,268 --> 00:06:42,369 can flow together. 121 00:06:42,470 --> 00:06:43,971 I started working with him everyday, 122 00:06:44,071 --> 00:06:46,273 and he works, like, three days a week. 123 00:06:46,373 --> 00:06:48,108 He keeps the copiers with-- 124 00:06:48,208 --> 00:06:49,677 loaded with paper. 125 00:06:49,777 --> 00:06:52,613 All the different stations that we have here in the library, 126 00:06:52,713 --> 00:06:54,314 and he does all of that. 127 00:06:54,414 --> 00:06:55,849 He's-- he's a terrific guy. 128 00:06:55,949 --> 00:06:58,351 Knowing Arthur for, I guess, about two years, 129 00:06:58,452 --> 00:07:00,588 and I remember he said he had a band. 130 00:07:00,688 --> 00:07:03,591 And I had no idea they were as popular 131 00:07:03,691 --> 00:07:06,026 as they were in New York and that he 132 00:07:06,126 --> 00:07:08,862 was such an important part of their group. 133 00:07:11,465 --> 00:07:14,468 Can't believe I know a rock star. 134 00:07:14,568 --> 00:07:16,036 Who'd of thought? 135 00:07:16,136 --> 00:07:18,739 [laughs] Yes. 136 00:07:18,839 --> 00:07:21,174 He had extreme humility. 137 00:07:21,274 --> 00:07:22,442 He really did. 138 00:07:22,543 --> 00:07:24,878 Yet here he is connected to one of the most 139 00:07:24,978 --> 00:07:27,715 raucous, notorious rock and roll bands in musical history. 140 00:07:27,815 --> 00:07:29,116 [MUSIC - NEW YORK DOLLS, "TRASH"] 141 00:07:29,216 --> 00:07:30,951 DAVID JOHANSEN: [singing] Trash, won't pick it up. 142 00:07:31,051 --> 00:07:32,686 Take them lights away. 143 00:07:32,786 --> 00:07:35,556 Trash, won't pick it up. 144 00:07:35,656 --> 00:07:37,324 Don't take your life away. 145 00:07:37,424 --> 00:07:39,192 Trash, won't pick it up. 146 00:07:39,292 --> 00:07:43,531 Don't try to take my knife away. 147 00:07:43,631 --> 00:07:48,836 And, please, don't you ask me if I love you. 148 00:07:48,936 --> 00:07:51,805 If you don't know what I'm doing-- 149 00:07:51,905 --> 00:07:55,242 Because it was such fantastic pop music, 150 00:07:55,342 --> 00:07:58,712 it just seemed to me like the absolute answer to everything. 151 00:07:58,812 --> 00:08:00,213 The MC5 and the Stooges were good, 152 00:08:00,313 --> 00:08:01,982 but it was the Dolls that were really exciting. 153 00:08:02,082 --> 00:08:05,485 They came out of a New York City that was, uh, 154 00:08:05,586 --> 00:08:07,955 broke and on the rocks, and therefore, 155 00:08:08,055 --> 00:08:11,525 had wide openings for rock and roll to emerge like-- uh, 156 00:08:11,625 --> 00:08:13,460 like weeds in cracked cement. 157 00:08:13,561 --> 00:08:16,196 The New York Dolls impact on London was-- 158 00:08:16,296 --> 00:08:18,131 um, it was a bomb going off. 159 00:08:18,231 --> 00:08:20,834 They assimilated all this music into their sound. 160 00:08:20,934 --> 00:08:23,203 And, you know, at the time it was-- it was too much for most 161 00:08:23,303 --> 00:08:24,572 people to be able to handle. 162 00:08:24,672 --> 00:08:25,673 DAVID JOHANSEN: [singing] --won't pick it up. 163 00:08:25,773 --> 00:08:27,641 Don't take my knife away. 164 00:08:27,741 --> 00:08:29,643 Trash, won't pick it up. 165 00:08:29,743 --> 00:08:33,981 Forgot to take them all away. 166 00:08:34,081 --> 00:08:39,553 And, please, don't you ask me if I love you. 167 00:08:39,653 --> 00:08:43,924 Cause I don't know if I do. 168 00:08:44,024 --> 00:08:47,094 I want to wipe it out here with you. 169 00:08:49,997 --> 00:08:53,767 You must remember that from the point of view of anyone 170 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:56,236 who loved music, music was dead. 171 00:08:56,336 --> 00:09:00,440 People forget how absolutely dank things were, how 172 00:09:00,540 --> 00:09:03,210 dank life was and pop art was. 173 00:09:03,310 --> 00:09:08,115 Do either a stupid, um, in my opinion, heavy metal. 174 00:09:08,215 --> 00:09:10,684 [music playing] 175 00:09:18,325 --> 00:09:19,559 [record scratches] 176 00:09:19,660 --> 00:09:22,696 All had these nonsensical prog-rock rubbish. 177 00:09:22,796 --> 00:09:28,101 There was no sense of danger within pop music at all. 178 00:09:28,201 --> 00:09:31,004 [drums] 179 00:09:34,908 --> 00:09:37,077 NINA ANTONIA: Well, they were all wearing Afghan coats, 180 00:09:37,177 --> 00:09:42,850 and they all played 25 minute drum solos, and it was boring. 181 00:09:51,659 --> 00:09:52,960 What can I say? 182 00:09:53,060 --> 00:09:54,995 Growing up in the New York City area 183 00:09:55,095 --> 00:09:58,365 and being a teenager when the Dolls were at their peak, 184 00:09:58,465 --> 00:09:59,566 they were gods to me. 185 00:09:59,667 --> 00:10:01,101 The New York Dolls were like-- 186 00:10:01,201 --> 00:10:05,405 they were kind of like a pinhole of light in the early 70s. 187 00:10:05,505 --> 00:10:06,974 You know, their image was somewhat 188 00:10:07,074 --> 00:10:08,776 disturbing to a lot of people. 189 00:10:08,876 --> 00:10:11,945 MORRISSEY: So here were boys who were calling themselves Dolls, 190 00:10:12,045 --> 00:10:16,850 and they looked like prostitutes, male prostitutes. 191 00:10:16,950 --> 00:10:19,186 And, um, it was extraordinary. 192 00:10:19,286 --> 00:10:23,623 I loved the Osmonds and David Cassidy and everything. 193 00:10:23,724 --> 00:10:25,325 I thought they were cute, and they were sweet, 194 00:10:25,425 --> 00:10:26,860 and they were easy to photograph, 195 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,428 and they were easy to work with. 196 00:10:28,528 --> 00:10:35,502 But suddenly I'm looking at this bunch, and I thought, OK. 197 00:10:35,602 --> 00:10:36,837 Fasten your belts. 198 00:10:36,937 --> 00:10:38,806 We're in for good time now. 199 00:10:38,906 --> 00:10:42,175 DAVID JOHANSEN: Say man, they tell me you're pretty good. 200 00:10:42,275 --> 00:10:45,813 Don't you know you're in my neighborhood? 201 00:10:45,913 --> 00:10:49,750 They tell me you're pretty fast on them feets. 202 00:10:49,850 --> 00:10:54,021 You best be at the dance down on 14th street, you hear? 203 00:10:54,121 --> 00:10:55,488 [MUSIC - NEW YORK DOLLS, "(THERE'S GONNA 204 00:10:55,588 --> 00:10:56,790 BE A) SHOWDOWN"] 205 00:10:56,890 --> 00:11:00,293 [singing] Yeah, there's gonna be a showdown. 206 00:11:03,196 --> 00:11:08,736 Yeah, there's gonna be a showdown. 207 00:11:08,836 --> 00:11:10,037 MORRISSEY: The list is astonishing. 208 00:11:10,137 --> 00:11:12,806 The Pretenders, the Sex Pistols, the Clash, 209 00:11:12,906 --> 00:11:14,708 the Damned, Generation X-- 210 00:11:14,808 --> 00:11:16,043 the list is absolutely endless. 211 00:11:16,143 --> 00:11:18,545 We took a lot from the New York Dolls. 212 00:11:18,645 --> 00:11:19,847 We took a lot. 213 00:11:19,947 --> 00:11:21,214 You know, they were, like, really, really 214 00:11:21,314 --> 00:11:22,549 raw rock and roll. 215 00:11:22,649 --> 00:11:25,919 Really high energy, great songs, and they looked like they 216 00:11:26,019 --> 00:11:27,354 came from Mars or somewhere. 217 00:11:27,454 --> 00:11:29,156 NINA ANTONIA: It was-- it was like a telegram 218 00:11:29,256 --> 00:11:30,724 from outer space. 219 00:11:30,824 --> 00:11:34,227 Just like this fantastic comet suddenly lands, 220 00:11:34,327 --> 00:11:36,563 and it's multi-colored, and it's gorgeous, 221 00:11:36,663 --> 00:11:38,732 and it makes the most fabulous sound. 222 00:11:38,832 --> 00:11:41,001 The most important thing was style to them. 223 00:11:41,101 --> 00:11:43,871 And that made such a massive impression. 224 00:11:43,971 --> 00:11:45,105 The world wasn't ready. 225 00:11:45,205 --> 00:11:47,607 It seems to take-- 226 00:11:47,707 --> 00:11:52,612 it seems to take the pop world 30 years to understand anybody, 227 00:11:52,712 --> 00:11:55,849 to really understand a group or an artist. 228 00:11:55,949 --> 00:11:59,319 And often it takes deaths within the group. 229 00:11:59,419 --> 00:12:02,255 And then people say, oh, yes, we do like those people 230 00:12:02,355 --> 00:12:03,656 now that they're not here. 231 00:12:03,757 --> 00:12:06,760 And there's no reason on Earth why it shouldn't have happened. 232 00:12:06,860 --> 00:12:09,196 But for some strange reason, this group 233 00:12:09,296 --> 00:12:10,130 has always been cursed. 234 00:12:21,775 --> 00:12:24,644 LEE BLACK CHILDERS: Johnny and Jerry formed the Heartbreakers. 235 00:12:24,744 --> 00:12:28,415 David and Syl, for a while, continued 236 00:12:28,515 --> 00:12:31,919 on being the New York Dolls. 237 00:12:32,019 --> 00:12:37,825 Arthur, I think, then at that time pretty much 238 00:12:37,925 --> 00:12:41,261 went off on his own. 239 00:12:41,361 --> 00:12:44,297 [MUSIC - JOHNNY THUNDERS, "IN COLD BLOOD." 240 00:12:52,072 --> 00:12:53,406 MAN 1: He was in several other bands. 241 00:12:53,506 --> 00:12:54,374 He went to hell-- 242 00:12:54,474 --> 00:12:55,943 he moved to Los Angeles. 243 00:12:56,043 --> 00:12:57,710 He formed a band called Killer Kane 244 00:12:57,811 --> 00:12:58,946 with a former guitar player. 245 00:12:59,046 --> 00:13:00,280 And when that didn't work out, then he 246 00:13:00,380 --> 00:13:02,715 formed another band with Jerry Nolan of the Dolls 247 00:13:02,816 --> 00:13:04,017 called Idols. 248 00:13:04,117 --> 00:13:06,119 And they were around for about a year or two. 249 00:13:06,219 --> 00:13:07,620 And then he returned to New York, 250 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,190 and he formed another band called the Corpse Grinders. 251 00:13:10,290 --> 00:13:11,992 And then he moved back to Los Angeles, 252 00:13:12,092 --> 00:13:14,494 and with his wife, Barbara. 253 00:13:14,594 --> 00:13:17,965 Well I had the unique experience of being a rock 254 00:13:18,065 --> 00:13:20,267 star's wife that had no money. 255 00:13:20,367 --> 00:13:23,003 I was not the pampered pet that some of these women 256 00:13:23,103 --> 00:13:27,274 are, living in beautiful mansions, driving nice cars, 257 00:13:27,374 --> 00:13:29,142 et cetera, et cetera. 258 00:13:29,242 --> 00:13:31,244 MAN 2: He was down and out for a long time. 259 00:13:31,344 --> 00:13:34,114 MORRISSEY: He was very, very sad and very, 260 00:13:34,214 --> 00:13:37,684 very embittered about his the way his life had turned out. 261 00:13:37,784 --> 00:13:39,987 He had never earned money from the Dolls, 262 00:13:40,087 --> 00:13:43,356 yet anybody who remotely imitated the Dolls were 263 00:13:43,456 --> 00:13:45,292 having millions of dollars thrown up at them. 264 00:13:45,392 --> 00:13:48,295 I think that was very difficult for him to live with. 265 00:13:48,395 --> 00:13:51,965 Especially when, you know, seeing how successful Johnny 266 00:13:52,065 --> 00:13:57,004 had become and Jerry and then David with his alter ego, 267 00:13:57,104 --> 00:13:58,705 Buster Pointdexter. 268 00:13:58,805 --> 00:14:00,173 I think it was hard on him. 269 00:14:00,273 --> 00:14:03,143 I think it was very hard on him. 270 00:14:03,243 --> 00:14:06,113 MORRISSEY: There was so much pain in his eyes. 271 00:14:06,213 --> 00:14:08,581 And I don't think he really enjoyed his life. 272 00:14:16,723 --> 00:14:21,661 Because Arthur was a rock artist, he didn't have much-- 273 00:14:21,761 --> 00:14:23,063 many skills. 274 00:14:23,163 --> 00:14:26,166 We both were doing some extra film work. 275 00:14:26,266 --> 00:14:28,501 A lot of sci-fi and action adventure. 276 00:14:28,601 --> 00:14:29,769 I was in "Critters." 277 00:14:29,869 --> 00:14:32,305 We were in "Spaceballs," "Innerspace." 278 00:14:42,615 --> 00:14:43,850 I had no money. 279 00:14:43,951 --> 00:14:45,118 We had no friends. 280 00:14:45,218 --> 00:14:47,820 I was just-- I couldn't get off the booze. 281 00:14:47,921 --> 00:14:49,622 I was smoking, also. 282 00:14:49,722 --> 00:14:53,426 He had seen one of the Dolls-- 283 00:14:53,526 --> 00:14:54,995 I won't say who-- on TV. 284 00:14:58,999 --> 00:15:00,767 Hey, you don't mind if I smoke, do you? 285 00:15:00,867 --> 00:15:01,935 Smoke! Smoke! 286 00:15:02,035 --> 00:15:03,103 Just drive! 287 00:15:06,873 --> 00:15:08,075 [laughs] 288 00:15:08,175 --> 00:15:11,011 It flipped him out so much, and hurt him 289 00:15:11,111 --> 00:15:13,713 so much, that he went out and drank 290 00:15:13,813 --> 00:15:15,282 a quart of peppermint schnapps. 291 00:15:15,382 --> 00:15:16,984 He ripped all my clothes off. 292 00:15:17,084 --> 00:15:18,918 He started to beat me with the cat furniture. 293 00:15:19,019 --> 00:15:21,888 And I left him. 294 00:15:21,989 --> 00:15:25,158 And that's when he jumped out the kitchen window. 295 00:15:25,258 --> 00:15:29,629 I went out the window thinking that I could do it. 296 00:15:29,729 --> 00:15:30,897 I didn't. 297 00:15:30,998 --> 00:15:32,032 WOMAN: He jumped out of the third story. 298 00:15:32,132 --> 00:15:35,535 The planter box broke his fall. 299 00:15:35,635 --> 00:15:36,736 I landed on my head. 300 00:15:36,836 --> 00:15:38,371 I shattered my kneecap. 301 00:15:38,471 --> 00:15:41,641 And I also shattered my left elbow, and to this day, 302 00:15:41,741 --> 00:15:44,044 I have a couple of metal screws hanging out of here. 303 00:15:44,144 --> 00:15:47,380 It took me a year to teach myself how to walk again. 304 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:52,185 In AA, this is called being at rock bottom. 305 00:15:52,285 --> 00:15:55,055 I was sitting in bed, and I had a-- 306 00:15:55,155 --> 00:15:57,024 I had a Bible. 307 00:15:57,124 --> 00:15:58,591 But I also had a TV Guide, and I was 308 00:15:58,691 --> 00:16:00,327 watching [inaudible] on the TV. 309 00:16:00,427 --> 00:16:01,094 And it was-- 310 00:16:01,194 --> 00:16:02,362 I happened to notice in-- 311 00:16:02,462 --> 00:16:05,898 in the TV Guide was an ad for a church. 312 00:16:05,999 --> 00:16:07,300 And the church was called The Church of Jesus 313 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,568 Christ of Latter-day Saints. 314 00:16:08,668 --> 00:16:11,938 They say, send for the Book of Mormon. 315 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:13,206 It's free. 316 00:16:13,306 --> 00:16:14,741 I thought, well, I'll make a phone call, 317 00:16:14,841 --> 00:16:16,176 and they'll mail me a book. 318 00:16:16,276 --> 00:16:17,810 And then maybe I'll read the book, or maybe I won't. 319 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:19,079 You know, we'll see what they got-- 320 00:16:19,179 --> 00:16:20,947 you know, maybe it's Jehovah's Witnesses 321 00:16:21,048 --> 00:16:21,981 or whatever it might be. 322 00:16:22,082 --> 00:16:23,250 I don't know what design. 323 00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:27,887 So he called the Book of Mormon people. 324 00:16:27,987 --> 00:16:29,622 Well they don't send it. 325 00:16:29,722 --> 00:16:31,024 They bring it. 326 00:16:31,124 --> 00:16:34,694 Um, two beautiful, uh, young, blonde missionaries 327 00:16:34,794 --> 00:16:36,763 came to my door-- 328 00:16:36,863 --> 00:16:38,098 Mormon missionaries came to my door. 329 00:16:38,198 --> 00:16:39,266 And they said, well-- 330 00:16:39,366 --> 00:16:40,433 INTERVIEWER: Sister missionaries? 331 00:16:40,533 --> 00:16:42,169 Sister-- sister missionaries, yeah. 332 00:16:42,269 --> 00:16:44,637 And they said, hello, we're here to teach you your seven 333 00:16:44,737 --> 00:16:48,375 basic gospel principle classes. 334 00:16:48,475 --> 00:16:52,812 I think it was one late afternoon I decided to give it 335 00:16:52,912 --> 00:16:55,782 a whirl, and sincerely prayed to find out if the Book of Mormon 336 00:16:55,882 --> 00:16:57,284 was true. 337 00:16:57,384 --> 00:17:00,753 And tell the truth, I received an answer, pretty much, 338 00:17:00,853 --> 00:17:01,688 right away. 339 00:17:04,491 --> 00:17:08,661 And the only thing I could liken it to, from my experiences-- 340 00:17:08,761 --> 00:17:12,299 from my experiences, was that it was a bit like a trip. 341 00:17:12,399 --> 00:17:14,867 An LSD trip from the Lord. 342 00:17:14,967 --> 00:17:17,637 Well I think it happens a little differently to everyone. 343 00:17:17,737 --> 00:17:20,340 Well a lot of people describe it as a burning. 344 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,443 That they feel a burning sensation in their chest. 345 00:17:23,543 --> 00:17:26,479 They sense it in a way that is very difficult to describe. 346 00:17:26,579 --> 00:17:30,049 It was like a drug experience, but there 347 00:17:30,150 --> 00:17:31,151 were no drugs involved. 348 00:17:31,251 --> 00:17:32,719 When he told me he said, you're 349 00:17:32,819 --> 00:17:37,157 never gonna believe this, but I've converted to Mormonism. 350 00:17:37,257 --> 00:17:41,228 [choir singing] 351 00:17:41,328 --> 00:17:43,863 MAN 3: Joining the Mormon church changed things for him. 352 00:17:43,963 --> 00:17:44,997 MAN 4: The Mormon thing, I think, 353 00:17:45,098 --> 00:17:47,867 gave him some kind of a purpose. 354 00:17:47,967 --> 00:17:49,669 Because he did have something to do. 355 00:17:49,769 --> 00:17:51,304 He had to go to these-- 356 00:17:51,404 --> 00:17:53,140 he went to his job there. 357 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,244 And, you know, he would go to the services. 358 00:17:57,344 --> 00:18:03,650 And so-- and he was really, you know, into doing it. 359 00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:05,718 Oh, you know, where is Arthur tonight? 360 00:18:05,818 --> 00:18:08,054 And he's like, oh, you know, he couldn't make it out tonight. 361 00:18:08,155 --> 00:18:09,822 He's got church in the morning. 362 00:18:09,922 --> 00:18:11,124 And I'm like, church? 363 00:18:11,224 --> 00:18:12,559 Wait, you know, what are you talking about? 364 00:18:12,659 --> 00:18:15,228 Because, you know, not a lot of people go to church. 365 00:18:15,328 --> 00:18:18,064 Very paradoxical, when you think of this guy in lipstick 366 00:18:18,165 --> 00:18:19,699 and fishnet tights and, you know, 367 00:18:19,799 --> 00:18:23,170 creating chaos around the world becoming a Mormon. 368 00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:24,637 You know, just kind of-- 369 00:18:24,737 --> 00:18:26,939 it'd be like Donny Osmond becoming a New York Doll. 370 00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:29,142 Nothing to believe in but nothing. 371 00:18:29,242 --> 00:18:32,145 A lot of heroin, a lot of drugs, nothing. 372 00:18:32,245 --> 00:18:33,946 I'm always happy when someone finds 373 00:18:34,046 --> 00:18:38,117 something they can believe in. 374 00:18:38,218 --> 00:18:45,492 [MUSIC - THE SHANGRI LAS, "OUT IN THE STREETS"] 375 00:18:45,592 --> 00:18:50,897 THE SHANGRI-LAS: [singing] He don't hang around with the gang 376 00:18:50,997 --> 00:18:52,265 no more. 377 00:18:52,365 --> 00:18:57,804 And he don't do the wild things that he did before. 378 00:18:57,904 --> 00:18:58,805 Ooh. 379 00:18:58,905 --> 00:19:01,708 He used to act bad. 380 00:19:01,808 --> 00:19:03,876 Used to, but he quit it. 381 00:19:03,976 --> 00:19:10,383 It makes me so sad, cause I know that he did it for me. 382 00:19:10,483 --> 00:19:17,257 And I can see his heart is out in the street. 383 00:19:17,357 --> 00:19:18,591 It would become a bit lonely for me 384 00:19:18,691 --> 00:19:21,461 for the first couple of years, uh, in church. 385 00:19:21,561 --> 00:19:25,198 Russ Tippett was assigned as Arthur's home teacher. 386 00:19:25,298 --> 00:19:27,400 In theory, at least, every member of the Church 387 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:28,701 is assigned a home teacher. 388 00:19:28,801 --> 00:19:30,503 Expected to make at least one visit a month 389 00:19:30,603 --> 00:19:33,773 at the home, sometimes more, depending on how things are 390 00:19:33,873 --> 00:19:35,475 and depending on their level of friendship. 391 00:19:35,575 --> 00:19:37,610 I mean, he on many times, when we were driving 392 00:19:37,710 --> 00:19:41,013 to and from church, expressed to me 393 00:19:41,113 --> 00:19:43,149 frustrations with the church. 394 00:19:43,250 --> 00:19:44,751 OK, turning point-- 395 00:19:44,851 --> 00:19:47,220 big turning point, even in the Mormon church, 396 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,522 for me was-- and just, even recently-- 397 00:19:49,622 --> 00:19:51,591 although I joined in 1989-- 398 00:19:51,691 --> 00:19:57,864 was, uh, Mac McGregor saying, hey, gotta job for you 399 00:19:57,964 --> 00:19:59,299 in the family history center. 400 00:19:59,399 --> 00:20:01,534 And he says, it's a calling, if you'd like. 401 00:20:01,634 --> 00:20:03,436 I think it was a little bit of a shock to him. 402 00:20:03,536 --> 00:20:06,539 And he had his way of showing his surprise. 403 00:20:06,639 --> 00:20:10,009 Well Arthur Kane might be a good candidate for working 404 00:20:10,109 --> 00:20:11,344 in the Family History Library. 405 00:20:11,444 --> 00:20:13,212 It might be something that would interest him 406 00:20:13,313 --> 00:20:15,047 and that he would like to do. 407 00:20:15,147 --> 00:20:18,951 And tell the truth, it was perfect. 408 00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:20,320 And that was perfect. 409 00:20:20,420 --> 00:20:23,823 And tell the truth, working for Jesus Christ, 410 00:20:23,923 --> 00:20:26,326 and working for the Church of Jesus Christ 411 00:20:26,426 --> 00:20:29,929 made all the difference in the world. 412 00:20:30,029 --> 00:20:32,932 [choir music] 413 00:20:37,504 --> 00:20:39,238 EARL SANDERS: He works with people 414 00:20:39,339 --> 00:20:41,508 here that come in and are looking 415 00:20:41,608 --> 00:20:43,576 for their great-great-great grandmother 416 00:20:43,676 --> 00:20:46,379 or great-great grandfather, and that's really 417 00:20:46,479 --> 00:20:48,515 a difficult, difficult thing. 418 00:20:48,615 --> 00:20:51,318 Two weeks after I started working in the family history 419 00:20:51,418 --> 00:20:53,820 library, I was going through the, uh, 420 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,924 social security death records and found out 421 00:20:58,024 --> 00:21:00,393 that my dad had passed away. 422 00:21:00,493 --> 00:21:02,128 My own dad-- I used to say-- 423 00:21:02,228 --> 00:21:04,030 I have no brothers and sisters. 424 00:21:04,130 --> 00:21:05,898 I had my mom and dad. 425 00:21:05,998 --> 00:21:07,800 My mom passed me when I was 17. 426 00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:10,470 About a year or so later, my dad got married to someone. 427 00:21:10,570 --> 00:21:13,773 Of course, I didn't want to ever talk to him. 428 00:21:13,873 --> 00:21:15,708 And that was the end of my family life. 429 00:21:15,808 --> 00:21:17,910 He discovered that his dad had died. 430 00:21:18,010 --> 00:21:20,246 And he'd never have found out about it in any other way, 431 00:21:20,347 --> 00:21:21,781 except he read it there. 432 00:21:21,881 --> 00:21:24,317 It was-- it was such a shock to him to realize that here, 433 00:21:24,417 --> 00:21:26,185 his own father-- 434 00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:28,087 he had to learn about it by reading it 435 00:21:28,187 --> 00:21:29,456 in the family history center. 436 00:21:33,292 --> 00:21:38,097 SINGER: [singing] A poor way-fairing man-- 437 00:21:38,197 --> 00:21:42,635 Arthur was always short on finances. 438 00:21:42,735 --> 00:21:46,606 Uh, his rent was paid by Social Security disability. 439 00:21:46,706 --> 00:21:48,608 You know, he would run low even on grocery money. 440 00:21:51,344 --> 00:21:55,415 He tasted success at a young age 441 00:21:55,515 --> 00:21:59,786 and had his expectations raised very high. 442 00:21:59,886 --> 00:22:03,556 And, of course, he never met those expectations 443 00:22:03,656 --> 00:22:06,258 or came anywhere close to meeting those expectations. 444 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,694 Me and him, we'd go out to see bands a lot. 445 00:22:07,794 --> 00:22:09,261 And you know, we should be up there playing. 446 00:22:09,362 --> 00:22:11,097 What's this stuff, man? 447 00:22:11,197 --> 00:22:12,632 You know? 448 00:22:12,732 --> 00:22:13,966 He goes, why are we standing there looking at these guys? 449 00:22:14,066 --> 00:22:15,502 They don't-- you know, so he'd get pissed off. 450 00:22:15,602 --> 00:22:16,669 And that was-- he wasn't even drunk. 451 00:22:16,769 --> 00:22:18,438 So if he was drunk, forget about it. 452 00:22:18,538 --> 00:22:22,274 That's all he talked about was the Dolls 453 00:22:22,375 --> 00:22:23,710 and getting back together. 454 00:22:23,810 --> 00:22:25,378 That's all he had on his mind was getting 455 00:22:25,478 --> 00:22:27,447 the Dolls back together. 456 00:22:27,547 --> 00:22:29,181 It was, sort of, his life. 457 00:22:29,281 --> 00:22:30,683 He was always wanting it to happen, 458 00:22:30,783 --> 00:22:36,122 but there was no real, uh, solid way of going about it. 459 00:22:36,222 --> 00:22:37,524 There was a scripture read to Arthur 460 00:22:37,624 --> 00:22:40,226 in a home teaching lesson, and it's in Mormon 9:21 461 00:22:40,326 --> 00:22:41,761 in the Book of Mormon. 462 00:22:41,861 --> 00:22:46,332 "Behold, I say unto you that whoso believeth in Christ, 463 00:22:46,433 --> 00:22:49,436 doubting nothing whatsoever, he shall 464 00:22:49,536 --> 00:22:52,439 ask the Father in the name of Christ, 465 00:22:52,539 --> 00:22:54,507 it shall be granted him. 466 00:22:54,607 --> 00:22:58,277 And this promise is unto all, even 467 00:22:58,377 --> 00:23:00,079 unto the ends of the earth." 468 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,123 Well the Meltdown Festival is an annual festival in England. 469 00:23:11,223 --> 00:23:17,430 And it's-- um, one person is appointed, if you like, 470 00:23:17,530 --> 00:23:19,398 the caretaker of the event. 471 00:23:19,499 --> 00:23:21,768 And this year it was me. 472 00:23:21,868 --> 00:23:24,203 And I get an email from a friend 473 00:23:24,303 --> 00:23:27,540 I hadn't heard of in 30 years. 474 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,445 He says, oh, Arthur, I understand you're in town-- 475 00:23:32,545 --> 00:23:35,915 you'll be in town playing Morrissey's Meltdown 476 00:23:36,015 --> 00:23:38,417 and at the Royal Festival this summer. 477 00:23:38,518 --> 00:23:39,586 I didn't know who to call. 478 00:23:39,686 --> 00:23:41,621 I got-- I got several emails. 479 00:23:41,721 --> 00:23:43,656 And I got some emails from some girls 480 00:23:43,756 --> 00:23:47,527 in France who each had Johnny Thunders and their own New 481 00:23:47,627 --> 00:23:49,061 York Dolls websites. 482 00:23:49,161 --> 00:23:50,997 But I figured, listen, I'm going to find out about this. 483 00:23:51,097 --> 00:23:54,901 Let me call the guy who is mainly responsible, Morrissey. 484 00:23:55,001 --> 00:23:58,838 So I had a number for him that I hadn't called in five years. 485 00:23:58,938 --> 00:24:00,540 It was just his private number, because I know he 486 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,643 has a place to stay here in LA. 487 00:24:03,743 --> 00:24:05,978 So I called the number, and I was shocked 488 00:24:06,078 --> 00:24:07,113 to get him on the phone. 489 00:24:07,213 --> 00:24:10,049 He was shocked that I was calling him also. 490 00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:13,419 He said, please tell me what's going on. 491 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,187 He was so full of doubts. 492 00:24:15,287 --> 00:24:16,856 Could it possibly be? 493 00:24:16,956 --> 00:24:19,559 David really wants to do it, play those songs, 494 00:24:19,659 --> 00:24:22,094 we're going to be together, we're going to rehearse. 495 00:24:22,194 --> 00:24:24,831 I'm going to go to New York and rehearse with them. 496 00:24:24,931 --> 00:24:28,334 I said, Arthur, people love the Dolls 497 00:24:28,434 --> 00:24:30,469 and they want it to happen, and it's going 498 00:24:30,570 --> 00:24:32,505 to be absolutely wonderful. 499 00:24:32,605 --> 00:24:34,106 Probably right across the street 500 00:24:34,206 --> 00:24:37,009 from the Houses of Parliament, you know, and the river Thames. 501 00:24:37,109 --> 00:24:40,179 And Big Ben, it'll be around the corner and the whole thing. 502 00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:41,781 His head was so full of dreams. 503 00:24:41,881 --> 00:24:46,519 He just started talking about, you know, stories from 30 years 504 00:24:46,619 --> 00:24:48,855 ago with the Dolls, his hopes of, 505 00:24:48,955 --> 00:24:51,591 you know, what his future career would be like, 506 00:24:51,691 --> 00:24:52,992 how much he was looking forward to getting 507 00:24:53,092 --> 00:24:57,263 back together with David Johansen and Syl Sylvain. 508 00:24:57,363 --> 00:25:00,066 And, uh, you know, he was just-- 509 00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:01,400 he was just so happy. 510 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,302 It was-- it was a beautiful sight to behold. 511 00:25:03,402 --> 00:25:04,837 It's something that's meant to be. 512 00:25:04,937 --> 00:25:08,040 And to say, all of the cards are being, uh, 513 00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:10,376 you know, laid out on the table just, 514 00:25:10,476 --> 00:25:14,881 you know, for-- uh, for this-- 515 00:25:14,981 --> 00:25:16,382 for this event to take place. 516 00:25:16,482 --> 00:25:18,851 This historic musical event to take place. 517 00:25:18,951 --> 00:25:21,387 How can I go from the Family History Center 518 00:25:21,487 --> 00:25:24,557 to the Royal Albert Hall in one fell swoop? 519 00:25:24,657 --> 00:25:26,993 INTERVIEWER: Tell me where we just came from. 520 00:25:27,093 --> 00:25:30,496 Well we just came from the pawn shop, where I had 521 00:25:30,597 --> 00:25:33,566 gotten a loan on this guitar. 522 00:25:33,666 --> 00:25:39,305 I was in jeopardy of losing some of my guitars 523 00:25:39,405 --> 00:25:40,873 into the pawn shop, because I didn't 524 00:25:40,973 --> 00:25:43,776 have the money to even to pay the interest on the loan. 525 00:25:43,876 --> 00:25:49,716 For several years he had been paying the pawnshop $175 a year 526 00:25:49,816 --> 00:25:54,053 so that they could keep his guitars, when all he had to do 527 00:25:54,153 --> 00:25:58,390 was pay them $262 to get the guitars out of the pawnshop. 528 00:25:58,490 --> 00:26:00,392 Well he just looked at me quizzically, 529 00:26:00,492 --> 00:26:01,894 as if it had never really occurred 530 00:26:01,994 --> 00:26:04,263 to him that he could do that. 531 00:26:04,363 --> 00:26:06,966 In retrospect, perhaps the reason it never occurred to him 532 00:26:07,066 --> 00:26:11,070 was because he never had $262 at any one time 533 00:26:11,170 --> 00:26:12,939 that would have enabled him to do that. 534 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:13,740 Why not? 535 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,209 Yeah-- There you go, buddy. 536 00:26:17,309 --> 00:26:18,477 You're all set. 537 00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:19,746 ARTHUR KANE: This is pretty good. 538 00:26:39,632 --> 00:26:40,767 You know, he was very nervous. 539 00:26:40,867 --> 00:26:42,334 He was excited, but he was nervous too. 540 00:26:42,434 --> 00:26:43,602 He was really nervous. 541 00:26:43,703 --> 00:26:44,771 INTERVIEWER: What was he nervous about? 542 00:26:44,871 --> 00:26:45,872 Playing the gig. 543 00:26:48,274 --> 00:26:50,376 I mean, he's going to play a festival. 544 00:26:50,476 --> 00:26:51,811 He hasn't played in-- 545 00:26:51,911 --> 00:26:55,147 you know, with these guys in 30 something years. 546 00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:57,183 And he's going to go to London and play a festival 547 00:26:57,283 --> 00:27:01,253 in front of 100,000 people. 548 00:27:01,353 --> 00:27:02,689 Pretty scary for a guy like him. 549 00:27:07,927 --> 00:27:09,195 Um, OK. 550 00:27:09,295 --> 00:27:12,799 It doesn't sound like much at the moment, you know, but-- 551 00:27:12,899 --> 00:27:16,468 I asked him, Arthur, are you nervous about getting together 552 00:27:16,568 --> 00:27:17,970 for the first time after 30 years? 553 00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:21,874 And his response was, I'm not nervous about anything. 554 00:27:21,974 --> 00:27:24,443 The only thing I'm nervous about is this guy they're getting 555 00:27:24,543 --> 00:27:26,045 to replace Johnny Thunders. 556 00:27:26,145 --> 00:27:27,613 You know, I'm nervous that he's not going to be able to keep up 557 00:27:27,714 --> 00:27:29,148 with the rest of us. 558 00:27:29,248 --> 00:27:31,851 In the beginning, no one was sure how Arthur was going 559 00:27:31,951 --> 00:27:33,319 to be, because he hadn't-- 560 00:27:33,419 --> 00:27:35,187 I mean, Sylvain's been playing, David's been playing. 561 00:27:35,287 --> 00:27:37,256 I guess Arthur had been out of music for a while. 562 00:27:37,356 --> 00:27:40,259 Arthur's always-- they were always asking, can Arthur play? 563 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,193 Can Arthur play? 564 00:27:57,343 --> 00:27:59,746 OK, because I play a bass guitar, which 565 00:27:59,846 --> 00:28:03,015 is a large guitar, I'm not running around on stage 566 00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:08,154 doing power slides and, you know, setting a guitar on fire, 567 00:28:08,254 --> 00:28:10,156 and playing it with my teeth upside down. 568 00:28:10,256 --> 00:28:11,157 This stuff, you know. 569 00:28:11,257 --> 00:28:12,925 It's just not something bass players do. 570 00:28:13,025 --> 00:28:15,461 Most bass players, you just get in the groove 571 00:28:15,561 --> 00:28:17,764 and stay there and keep it together. 572 00:28:17,864 --> 00:28:18,831 INTERVIEWER: I mean, you guys may 573 00:28:18,931 --> 00:28:20,532 become Arthur Kane groupies. 574 00:28:20,632 --> 00:28:22,701 [laughs] We could, I guess. 575 00:28:22,802 --> 00:28:24,270 We could. 576 00:28:24,370 --> 00:28:28,040 I'm a little bit old, but then I can still be a group, 577 00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:29,008 I guess. 578 00:28:29,108 --> 00:28:31,577 [laughs] 579 00:28:31,677 --> 00:28:33,946 What I am worried about-- 580 00:28:34,046 --> 00:28:39,451 the fans partying like it's, you know, 1999, what have, 581 00:28:39,551 --> 00:28:40,686 you know. 582 00:28:40,787 --> 00:28:44,356 I'm worried that all the fans are going 583 00:28:44,456 --> 00:28:49,695 to view, uh, the Dolls as being the same party guys we 584 00:28:49,796 --> 00:28:52,331 were when we were 19 years old. 585 00:28:52,431 --> 00:28:56,535 We're-- we'd come out in the hallway of the hotel, 586 00:28:56,635 --> 00:28:59,038 and there were people sleeping there 587 00:28:59,138 --> 00:29:02,909 in the hallway after the show. 588 00:29:03,009 --> 00:29:04,376 But not just one or two. 589 00:29:04,476 --> 00:29:08,114 It was 30 or 40. 590 00:29:08,214 --> 00:29:13,385 And so when you go on tour and do that type of stuff-- 591 00:29:15,487 --> 00:29:16,956 INTERVIEWER: Are you worried, Arthur, that-- 592 00:29:17,056 --> 00:29:18,224 Fans are all over the place. 593 00:29:18,324 --> 00:29:19,758 INTERVIEWER: --that could happen again? 594 00:29:19,859 --> 00:29:21,894 Well, I tell the truth, it should happen again. 595 00:29:26,065 --> 00:29:27,633 It's just it's something you gotta get used 596 00:29:27,733 --> 00:29:29,468 to it if you're not used to it. 597 00:29:33,005 --> 00:29:35,942 Let's say, for 30 years I've been ignored 598 00:29:36,042 --> 00:29:38,510 and been living in obscurity and been 599 00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:40,546 told that I'm just a loser. 600 00:29:45,351 --> 00:29:48,988 And now, well, we want to get back to that fan excitement. 601 00:29:49,088 --> 00:29:51,790 But I have to get used to it, because it's something 602 00:29:51,891 --> 00:29:54,626 I haven't done in 30 years. 603 00:29:54,726 --> 00:29:56,795 DAVID JOHANSEN: OK, everybody ready? 604 00:29:56,896 --> 00:29:58,998 This is a campy song. 605 00:29:59,098 --> 00:30:00,599 Is everybody ready? 606 00:30:00,699 --> 00:30:02,668 OK, are you rolling? 607 00:30:02,768 --> 00:30:03,936 OK. 608 00:30:04,036 --> 00:30:06,906 Lonely Planet Boy, one, two, three, four. 609 00:30:07,006 --> 00:30:10,076 [MUSIC - NEW YORK DOLLS, "LONELY PLANET BOY"] 610 00:30:14,346 --> 00:30:18,450 DAVID JOHANSEN: [singing] Well it's hard. 611 00:30:18,550 --> 00:30:20,019 Well it's hard. 612 00:30:26,292 --> 00:30:32,164 Well it's a lonely planet joy when you bring 613 00:30:32,264 --> 00:30:35,167 me some from them other boys. 614 00:30:35,267 --> 00:30:38,737 That's when I'm a lonely planet boy 615 00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:45,311 and I'm trying for your love. 616 00:30:45,411 --> 00:30:47,246 Whoa. 617 00:30:47,346 --> 00:30:50,049 SYLVAIN SYLVAIN: And we came that first day to rehearsal. 618 00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:52,718 Uh, even that first day I was still like, 619 00:30:52,818 --> 00:30:55,721 I wasn't quite sure what was going to happen. 620 00:30:55,821 --> 00:30:58,724 Because, you know, David didn't show up. 621 00:30:58,824 --> 00:31:00,392 It was sort of, like-- 622 00:31:00,492 --> 00:31:05,631 you know, it was frustrating in a way, because we, you know, 623 00:31:05,731 --> 00:31:07,934 we knew where we stood, me and Arthur. 624 00:31:08,034 --> 00:31:09,401 And all of a sudden we have, like, 625 00:31:09,501 --> 00:31:11,570 new guys that we really never knew or even met before, 626 00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:12,871 you know. 627 00:31:12,972 --> 00:31:14,173 And they're telling us, you know, sort of, 628 00:31:14,273 --> 00:31:15,874 our music better than-- they know our music 629 00:31:15,975 --> 00:31:17,476 better than us, almost. 630 00:31:17,576 --> 00:31:19,011 You know, go, oh-- 631 00:31:19,111 --> 00:31:22,448 The Dolls had played together in, what, almost 30 years. 632 00:31:22,548 --> 00:31:25,952 So, uh, you know nobody knew if it was going to gel, 633 00:31:26,052 --> 00:31:28,287 or if it was going to be a disaster. 634 00:31:28,387 --> 00:31:31,757 Uh, I'm gonna start and actually, you know, 635 00:31:31,857 --> 00:31:33,859 [singing] And now you're-- 636 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,362 [humming] 637 00:31:37,829 --> 00:31:39,331 This is a very well known jazz studio. 638 00:31:39,431 --> 00:31:41,867 It's probably the best rehearsal studio in New York City. 639 00:31:41,968 --> 00:31:44,036 And today we have been privileged to be 640 00:31:44,136 --> 00:31:45,938 graced by the New York Dolls. 641 00:31:46,038 --> 00:31:48,274 Probably the coolest band that's ever come here. 642 00:31:48,374 --> 00:31:50,076 [singing] And now you're wrong. 643 00:31:54,213 --> 00:31:55,047 Ow! 644 00:32:04,690 --> 00:32:06,959 It's the first time I got to meet these guys in the Dolls. 645 00:32:07,059 --> 00:32:09,828 I've heard about them, but, you know, 646 00:32:09,928 --> 00:32:11,530 it's pretty exciting to be working 647 00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:12,631 with some of the original guys. 648 00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:17,503 C to F, yeah, C to F. 649 00:32:17,603 --> 00:32:18,737 I don't know. 650 00:32:18,837 --> 00:32:19,972 I thought it was E, but maybe-- in D, 651 00:32:20,072 --> 00:32:21,473 but maybe it's E. Maybe you're right. 652 00:32:21,573 --> 00:32:22,174 I'm not sure. 653 00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:24,576 Does it go to E flat? 654 00:32:24,676 --> 00:32:28,314 Some things are in different keys, which I guess is maybe 655 00:32:28,414 --> 00:32:30,516 not so easy to do after you've played a song 656 00:32:30,616 --> 00:32:33,652 or written a song in a certain key, like Arthur has. 657 00:32:36,655 --> 00:32:39,291 Arthur had been out of music for a while, maybe 658 00:32:39,391 --> 00:32:41,127 played a gig once every couple years. 659 00:32:41,227 --> 00:32:42,561 Maybe the first few minutes or something, 660 00:32:42,661 --> 00:32:44,596 he might have been a little bit flustered and said, 661 00:32:44,696 --> 00:32:45,931 hey, what am I doing here? 662 00:32:46,032 --> 00:32:48,867 But, you know, after a couple of times through. 663 00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:49,935 MAN 6: With the modulation-- 664 00:32:50,036 --> 00:32:51,070 I'm still lost. 665 00:33:09,588 --> 00:33:10,889 DAVID JOHANSEN: Happens all the time. 666 00:33:10,989 --> 00:33:13,092 Happens all the time. 667 00:33:13,192 --> 00:33:14,893 INTERVIEWER: So David Johansen wasn't there today. 668 00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:16,028 ARTHUR KANE: No. 669 00:33:18,597 --> 00:33:20,832 INTERVIEWER: How'd you feel about that? 670 00:33:20,932 --> 00:33:23,035 ARTHUR KANE: Uh, you know, it took the pressure off of being 671 00:33:23,135 --> 00:33:25,504 there today, in that sense. 672 00:33:25,604 --> 00:33:28,207 Over the years he came to look at David 673 00:33:28,307 --> 00:33:30,709 Johansen as something of an adversary, 674 00:33:30,809 --> 00:33:31,810 rather than a friend. 675 00:33:31,910 --> 00:33:35,447 And I think that seen him on TV 676 00:33:35,547 --> 00:33:36,982 and as the alter ego of Buster Poindexter-- 677 00:33:37,083 --> 00:33:38,484 [MUSIC - BUSTER POINDEXTER, "HOT, HOT, HOT"] 678 00:33:38,584 --> 00:33:40,719 BUSTER POINDEXTER: [singing] Party people all around me 679 00:33:40,819 --> 00:33:43,089 feeling hot, hot, hot. 680 00:33:43,189 --> 00:33:46,825 --I think it bothered him and felt that he was taking 681 00:33:46,925 --> 00:33:51,597 a part of a life that he-- that Arthur 682 00:33:51,697 --> 00:33:53,165 should have been sharing in. 683 00:33:53,265 --> 00:33:58,537 By the time, uh, they got to New York for the rehearsals, 684 00:33:58,637 --> 00:34:01,540 that Arthur was expecting a very chilly reception from David. 685 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,310 Because he had this thing in his head about David, you know. 686 00:34:04,410 --> 00:34:07,513 And him and David had this thing going, I don't know what. 687 00:34:07,613 --> 00:34:09,148 And David didn't want to talk to him, 688 00:34:09,248 --> 00:34:11,083 because he had heard all this stuff that Arthur 689 00:34:11,183 --> 00:34:12,418 was saying about him. 690 00:34:12,518 --> 00:34:13,885 And Arthur was saying all these bad things, 691 00:34:13,985 --> 00:34:15,187 saying, oh, these guys are making money. 692 00:34:15,287 --> 00:34:16,788 They're in cahoots. 693 00:34:16,888 --> 00:34:21,660 I-- I talked to the Bishop the other day about the anxieties. 694 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,630 Especially about David Johansen, you know, maybe 695 00:34:24,730 --> 00:34:32,838 playing tricks on people or making it, you know, difficult. 696 00:34:32,938 --> 00:34:35,274 But tell the truth, I explained who 697 00:34:35,374 --> 00:34:39,278 David Johansen was and about, you know, all of this stuff. 698 00:34:39,378 --> 00:34:42,681 And the bishop just told me-- he said, Arthur-- he said, 699 00:34:42,781 --> 00:34:44,250 be a good Latter-day Saint. 700 00:34:44,350 --> 00:34:48,720 Do your job and everything will be fine. 701 00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:51,757 [rehearsal music] 702 00:35:24,490 --> 00:35:28,194 [singing] He don't hang around-- 703 00:35:31,863 --> 00:35:36,168 He don't do the things that he did before. 704 00:36:05,964 --> 00:36:08,867 [singing] 705 00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:03,889 Out in the street. 706 00:37:03,989 --> 00:37:07,092 She don't hang around with the gang no more. 707 00:37:07,192 --> 00:37:08,494 Out in the street. 708 00:37:08,594 --> 00:37:11,663 She don't hang around with the gang no more. 709 00:37:11,763 --> 00:37:12,864 Out in the street. 710 00:37:12,964 --> 00:37:16,067 She don't hang around with the gang no more. 711 00:37:16,167 --> 00:37:18,270 Out in the street. 712 00:37:25,210 --> 00:37:26,244 Hey! 713 00:37:32,117 --> 00:37:33,118 I love it, boys. 714 00:37:33,218 --> 00:37:34,286 It feels good. It feels good. 715 00:37:34,386 --> 00:37:35,921 I did. I shaved. 716 00:37:36,021 --> 00:37:38,189 I shaved. 717 00:37:38,290 --> 00:37:41,026 Hey, can we turn this up? 718 00:37:41,126 --> 00:37:41,993 MAN: I'm sure we can. 719 00:37:44,696 --> 00:37:46,598 I didn't know what they were thinking, but I didn't even-- 720 00:37:46,698 --> 00:37:48,033 I just felt like, I'm going to go 721 00:37:48,133 --> 00:37:50,802 in and enjoy these guy's company, because, you know, 722 00:37:50,902 --> 00:37:52,103 I love them. 723 00:37:52,203 --> 00:37:53,439 So-- 724 00:37:53,539 --> 00:37:57,008 When I saw Arthur, he seemed genuinely happy 725 00:37:57,108 --> 00:37:59,678 that he and David were, as he put it, friends again. 726 00:37:59,778 --> 00:38:02,514 I didn't see any tension. s You know, 727 00:38:02,614 --> 00:38:04,483 maybe individually they were a little nervous or something. 728 00:38:04,583 --> 00:38:05,651 But they certainly didn't show it, 729 00:38:05,751 --> 00:38:08,019 and they just seemed like old pals 730 00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:09,855 just getting together again. 731 00:38:09,955 --> 00:38:12,958 Yeah, we kind of picked up where we left off, right? 732 00:38:13,058 --> 00:38:14,726 Which is the way it should be. 733 00:38:14,826 --> 00:38:16,261 INTERVIEWER: Well my impression was 734 00:38:16,362 --> 00:38:18,397 that you left off in a trailer court in Florida 735 00:38:18,497 --> 00:38:19,965 screaming at each other. - [laughs] Yeah. 736 00:38:20,065 --> 00:38:21,967 INTERVIEWER: I think you came back in a much better spot. 737 00:38:31,343 --> 00:38:34,780 [david johansen singing] 738 00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,081 Oh, how are they going to do in London? 739 00:39:10,181 --> 00:39:12,451 Ah, well, we'll wait and see. 740 00:39:12,551 --> 00:39:13,485 I don't really know. 741 00:39:13,585 --> 00:39:15,854 I think the band sounds great. 742 00:39:15,954 --> 00:39:17,656 Uh, in a lot of cases I think it sounds, 743 00:39:17,756 --> 00:39:19,057 I mean, better than the records. 744 00:39:19,157 --> 00:39:21,292 I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. 745 00:39:21,393 --> 00:39:22,628 You know, the newspapers over there, 746 00:39:22,728 --> 00:39:24,229 if they can't say something nasty about you, 747 00:39:24,329 --> 00:39:25,296 they can't say anything at all. 748 00:39:25,397 --> 00:39:26,297 I don't know. 749 00:39:26,398 --> 00:39:27,533 I don't even think about it. 750 00:39:27,633 --> 00:39:30,702 Go out there, give the best you've got, 751 00:39:30,802 --> 00:39:32,538 and that's-- that's all you are. 752 00:39:32,638 --> 00:39:34,640 And why try to be something you're not? 753 00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:37,876 You know, so we'll see how the show's going to go. 754 00:39:37,976 --> 00:39:41,212 But I'm going in there like, it's going to be great. 755 00:39:41,312 --> 00:39:42,814 These guys sound great, you know. 756 00:39:42,914 --> 00:39:46,652 He is absolutely convinced that he is going to go out 757 00:39:46,752 --> 00:39:49,588 there and perform perfectly. 758 00:39:49,688 --> 00:39:52,858 He is going to do everything just exactly right. 759 00:39:52,958 --> 00:39:54,660 If there is a weak link, it is not going to be him. 760 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,194 [MUSIC - THE CLASH, "LONDON CALLING"] 761 00:39:56,294 --> 00:39:58,930 JOE STRUMMER [singing] London calling the faraway towns. 762 00:39:59,030 --> 00:40:03,101 Now war is declared and battle come down. 763 00:40:03,201 --> 00:40:06,438 London calling to the underworld. 764 00:40:06,538 --> 00:40:10,008 Come out of the cupboard, you boys and girls. 765 00:40:10,108 --> 00:40:11,409 London calling. 766 00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:13,779 Now don't look to us. 767 00:40:13,879 --> 00:40:16,347 Phony Beatlemania has bitten the dust. 768 00:40:16,448 --> 00:40:18,283 This [inaudible]. 769 00:40:18,383 --> 00:40:19,250 OK. 770 00:40:19,350 --> 00:40:20,619 I get a phone here. 771 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,120 We got a phone here. 772 00:40:22,220 --> 00:40:27,659 I got a-- connections for two, um, couple computers 773 00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:29,294 or something like that. 774 00:40:29,394 --> 00:40:32,430 There's another phone in the bathroom. 775 00:40:32,531 --> 00:40:35,333 And, um, I'm just saying. 776 00:40:35,433 --> 00:40:40,839 There's more stuff in this room than I have in my apartment. 777 00:40:40,939 --> 00:40:43,675 As far as living comfortably, you know. 778 00:40:43,775 --> 00:40:47,145 I don't have a plug for three phones-- and a computer 779 00:40:47,245 --> 00:40:48,747 plug-in the system, you know. 780 00:40:48,847 --> 00:40:52,518 Nor-- nor do I have a beautiful, you know, 781 00:40:52,618 --> 00:40:55,286 mahogany desk or any of this other stuff, you know. 782 00:40:55,386 --> 00:40:56,622 And it's nice stuff. 783 00:40:56,722 --> 00:41:01,860 So tell truth, I'd be just as happy to stay 784 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,130 here and look at the Thames for the rest of my life, you know. 785 00:41:05,230 --> 00:41:07,799 The Millennium wheel, and watch the people go by. 786 00:41:07,899 --> 00:41:11,603 There's nicer furniture here than in my place at home. 787 00:41:11,703 --> 00:41:13,605 I got a bunch of junk. 788 00:41:13,705 --> 00:41:17,743 [laughs] Makes my place looks like rinky dink. 789 00:41:21,012 --> 00:41:25,717 We'd like this mahogany, uh, and the big chairs and the official 790 00:41:25,817 --> 00:41:27,118 looking desk and all the stuff. 791 00:41:31,557 --> 00:41:34,993 [music playing] 792 00:41:42,367 --> 00:41:45,303 I was very lucky in the first time 793 00:41:45,403 --> 00:41:47,305 that I ever discovered the dolls 794 00:41:47,405 --> 00:41:49,608 MORRISSEY: They appeared very famously on the Old Grey 795 00:41:49,708 --> 00:41:56,381 Whistle Test, which, in those very dark days of '73, 796 00:41:56,481 --> 00:41:57,916 was a fantastic vision. 797 00:41:58,016 --> 00:42:01,519 It's because the Old Grey Whistle Test was predominantly 798 00:42:01,620 --> 00:42:04,455 a really boring, really serious rock show 799 00:42:04,556 --> 00:42:06,057 that I hardly ever watched. 800 00:42:06,157 --> 00:42:08,159 And then all of a sudden the New York Dolls were on it, 801 00:42:08,259 --> 00:42:10,696 and their appearance on the Old Grey Whistle Test 802 00:42:10,796 --> 00:42:15,266 had a huge effect on the up and coming punk generation, 803 00:42:15,366 --> 00:42:16,501 which was my age group. 804 00:42:16,602 --> 00:42:18,236 I, kind of, grew my hair like Johnny 805 00:42:18,336 --> 00:42:19,905 Thunders's as much as possible. 806 00:42:20,005 --> 00:42:23,408 And used to go around in very high heeled shoes. 807 00:42:23,508 --> 00:42:25,076 I was 13, and it was the right time. 808 00:42:25,176 --> 00:42:27,646 And for everybody, there's an artist that catches you 809 00:42:27,746 --> 00:42:30,682 just at the right time, an artist or a group, 810 00:42:30,782 --> 00:42:32,383 and you never let them go. 811 00:42:32,483 --> 00:42:34,419 And they can never disappoint you. 812 00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:37,889 And the Dolls were that for me. 813 00:42:37,989 --> 00:42:39,625 After Ziggy Stardust, probably the most 814 00:42:39,725 --> 00:42:42,093 influential group of my life-- 815 00:42:42,193 --> 00:42:49,868 Here was this wild, totally tumultuous band just making 816 00:42:49,968 --> 00:42:52,270 this glorious racket, and they didn't care 817 00:42:52,370 --> 00:42:54,773 about 25 minute drum solos. 818 00:42:54,873 --> 00:42:56,675 And they upset the presenter of the show, who 819 00:42:56,775 --> 00:42:58,610 set and called it Mock Rock. 820 00:43:01,379 --> 00:43:02,614 Mock Rock. 821 00:43:02,714 --> 00:43:04,616 [laughs] The New York Dolls. 822 00:43:04,716 --> 00:43:05,884 DON LETTS: Boring old fart-- 823 00:43:05,984 --> 00:43:07,585 Whispering Bob Harris, they called him-- 824 00:43:07,686 --> 00:43:08,820 was kind of taking the piss. 825 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,155 And he's like-- he called it Mock Rock. 826 00:43:10,255 --> 00:43:11,957 But when he said that, what he didn't realize 827 00:43:12,057 --> 00:43:16,094 is the thousands of, kind of, alienated kids were like, yeah! 828 00:43:16,194 --> 00:43:17,162 This is our band. 829 00:43:17,262 --> 00:43:18,630 You know, he was trying to put them down, 830 00:43:18,730 --> 00:43:20,198 but in fact, he went like this with them. 831 00:43:20,298 --> 00:43:22,968 Well when they came to London that first time 832 00:43:23,068 --> 00:43:25,871 with Billy Murcia, they really were a hair's breath 833 00:43:25,971 --> 00:43:29,574 away from stardom, of achieving everything they wanted, 834 00:43:29,675 --> 00:43:31,009 of getting a great record deal. 835 00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:34,746 There was a good record deal on the table for them. 836 00:43:34,846 --> 00:43:37,749 Um, it was being set up the night that Billy died. 837 00:43:37,849 --> 00:43:40,752 And everybody was expecting the Dolls to walk on the stage, 838 00:43:40,852 --> 00:43:42,387 and of course, they didn't. 839 00:43:42,487 --> 00:43:43,922 There was just suddenly an announcement 840 00:43:44,022 --> 00:43:48,559 that Billy had died, and everybody buhrrr, just 841 00:43:48,660 --> 00:43:49,728 collapsed. 842 00:43:49,828 --> 00:43:51,596 There were two English groupies. 843 00:43:51,697 --> 00:43:53,732 And they said, oh yes, we remember. 844 00:43:53,832 --> 00:43:56,802 We took Billy back to our apartment, 845 00:43:56,902 --> 00:44:01,873 and he was very stoned on Mandrax and alcohol. 846 00:44:01,973 --> 00:44:06,644 And he passed out, so we put him in a bathtub of cold water, 847 00:44:06,745 --> 00:44:10,581 and we poured hot coffee down his throat. 848 00:44:10,682 --> 00:44:12,751 Basically what these two dumb groupies did 849 00:44:12,851 --> 00:44:14,319 was suffocate Billy. 850 00:44:14,419 --> 00:44:18,857 Is it-- it changes from being this really cute little glam 851 00:44:18,957 --> 00:44:23,461 fairy story, to be becoming much more hardcore as they 852 00:44:23,561 --> 00:44:25,964 go along and building up this rep-- 853 00:44:26,064 --> 00:44:27,565 this dangerous reputation. 854 00:44:27,665 --> 00:44:31,903 Since then, the replacement drummer, Jerry Nolan, has died. 855 00:44:32,003 --> 00:44:34,139 Johnny Thunders, obviously, his died. 856 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,074 This is a blighted band. 857 00:44:36,174 --> 00:44:37,408 It really is. 858 00:44:37,508 --> 00:44:38,977 Isn't that strange. 859 00:44:39,077 --> 00:44:41,847 After all these years of writing and talking about it, it's-- 860 00:44:54,192 --> 00:44:56,828 Had it not been for heroin, Johnny and Jerry 861 00:44:56,928 --> 00:44:59,330 would have been at the show. 862 00:44:59,430 --> 00:45:02,901 [MUSIC PLAYING 863 00:45:34,933 --> 00:45:38,069 Now this is the point in the proceedings when, um, best 864 00:45:38,169 --> 00:45:39,771 leave your trousers on, because I'm 865 00:45:39,871 --> 00:45:41,539 gonna take a great deal of money off of you, again, 866 00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:42,841 this afternoon-- 867 00:45:42,941 --> 00:45:44,475 We had to go to this banquet. 868 00:45:44,575 --> 00:45:49,747 Like, such a punishing banquet, I mean, in my opinion. 869 00:45:49,848 --> 00:45:53,084 Arthur was just having the time of his life. 870 00:45:53,184 --> 00:45:57,956 Arthur looked over at one point and said, isn't this delicious? 871 00:45:58,056 --> 00:46:01,526 This is the most delicious luncheon I've ever had. 872 00:46:01,626 --> 00:46:03,694 He was just-- he was having a blast. 873 00:46:03,795 --> 00:46:05,730 He loved it. 874 00:46:05,831 --> 00:46:06,664 Hello, there, sir. 875 00:46:06,764 --> 00:46:07,899 Sorry to interrupt. 876 00:46:07,999 --> 00:46:11,536 You're Arthur Killer Kane, aren't you? 877 00:46:11,636 --> 00:46:13,238 I am a great fan or yours. 878 00:46:13,338 --> 00:46:14,973 A great fan of yours. 879 00:46:15,073 --> 00:46:16,141 I came to you earlier, but I'd just 880 00:46:16,241 --> 00:46:17,508 like to say, thank you so much. 881 00:46:17,608 --> 00:46:18,476 Oh, you're welcome. 882 00:46:18,576 --> 00:46:19,811 Good thinking. 883 00:46:19,911 --> 00:46:20,979 You're beautiful. 884 00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:21,779 Ma'am. 885 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,081 Are you enjoying your fish? 886 00:46:23,181 --> 00:46:24,682 To present this award with Art-- 887 00:46:24,782 --> 00:46:28,086 very, very thrilled indeed. 888 00:46:28,186 --> 00:46:30,455 And one of the seminal rock and roll 889 00:46:30,555 --> 00:46:34,625 acts ever to come out of New York, the original Jet Boys, 890 00:46:34,725 --> 00:46:37,963 give it up for the New York Dolls. 891 00:46:38,063 --> 00:46:41,132 [cheers and applause] 892 00:46:46,571 --> 00:46:48,573 It gives me great pleasure. 893 00:46:48,673 --> 00:46:54,846 After he gets this award, he's gonna go straight to hospital 894 00:46:54,946 --> 00:46:58,483 and sing a couple of tunes to cheer up the kids. 895 00:46:58,583 --> 00:47:00,852 Let's hear it for Morrissey. 896 00:47:00,952 --> 00:47:04,055 [cheers and applause] 897 00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:25,911 [inaudible] with you tonight so I won't be. 898 00:47:26,011 --> 00:47:28,679 I'd just like to say, thank you for this. 899 00:47:28,779 --> 00:47:31,883 I'd like to say, thank you to the Dolls, 900 00:47:31,983 --> 00:47:33,684 the only reason why I'm here, really. 901 00:47:33,784 --> 00:47:37,855 Thank you to [inaudible], and, uh, God bless everybody. 902 00:47:37,956 --> 00:47:39,024 Thank you. 903 00:47:47,832 --> 00:47:51,569 MAN: Have to take a look at this photo-- 904 00:47:51,669 --> 00:47:54,505 All right, we'll see you later. 905 00:47:54,605 --> 00:47:55,406 Here. 906 00:47:55,506 --> 00:47:56,341 Okay. 907 00:47:56,441 --> 00:47:57,976 Let's go. 908 00:47:58,076 --> 00:48:00,145 Do you want some coffee? 909 00:48:04,115 --> 00:48:05,283 DAVID JOHANSEN: When I say I'm in love, 910 00:48:05,383 --> 00:48:13,791 you best believe I'm in love, L-U-V. 911 00:48:13,891 --> 00:48:15,393 MAN 7: One more time you can go on. 912 00:48:15,493 --> 00:48:16,995 DAVID JOHANSEN: When I say I'm in love, 913 00:48:17,095 --> 00:48:23,001 you best believe I'm in love, L-U-V. 914 00:48:23,101 --> 00:48:25,270 We got to see Johnny Thunders, mostly. 915 00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:27,605 Sometimes Jerry Nolan would be with them. 916 00:48:27,705 --> 00:48:30,575 Sometimes, uh, Sylvain Sylvain. 917 00:48:30,675 --> 00:48:33,478 You know, but, this is the first time the actual Dolls. 918 00:48:38,349 --> 00:48:42,153 They became a legend because they burned themselves. 919 00:48:42,253 --> 00:48:43,854 Because, you know, there's a rock and roll 920 00:48:43,955 --> 00:48:46,424 way of life, drugs, going fast. 921 00:48:46,524 --> 00:48:48,659 This make the legend. 922 00:48:48,759 --> 00:48:50,928 Fan for 20 years. 923 00:48:51,029 --> 00:48:52,163 I'm really looking forward to this. 924 00:48:52,263 --> 00:48:54,599 My mind is positive for the show. 925 00:48:54,699 --> 00:48:57,168 Because it's like, you're going to meet old friend, 926 00:48:57,268 --> 00:48:58,503 you know, from a long time. 927 00:48:58,603 --> 00:49:00,071 So what's happen, happen. 928 00:49:00,171 --> 00:49:05,576 I mean, if-- if your friend is, uh, more old, or more fat, 929 00:49:05,676 --> 00:49:06,844 this is not a problem. 930 00:49:06,944 --> 00:49:09,747 We are here for the music. 931 00:49:09,847 --> 00:49:11,716 There is the story around the music, 932 00:49:11,816 --> 00:49:13,884 but basically, it's the music. 933 00:49:13,985 --> 00:49:16,254 If the play good, it's OK for me. 934 00:49:16,354 --> 00:49:18,389 INTERVIEWER: You know, you mentioned Arthur Kane-- 935 00:49:18,489 --> 00:49:19,090 Yeah. 936 00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:20,625 I thought he was dead. 937 00:49:20,725 --> 00:49:22,627 I thought he'd went missing in action in LA or something 938 00:49:22,727 --> 00:49:24,029 after the riots. 939 00:49:24,129 --> 00:49:25,963 You guys better be nice to us this time, 940 00:49:26,064 --> 00:49:28,566 or we're not coming back for another 30 years. 941 00:49:28,666 --> 00:49:30,535 INTERVIEWER: Are you worried at all about tonight? 942 00:49:30,635 --> 00:49:31,469 No. 943 00:49:31,569 --> 00:49:32,637 INTERVIEWER: How come? 944 00:49:32,737 --> 00:49:34,472 Um, we've done our homework. 945 00:49:34,572 --> 00:49:36,707 We've done our homework, we put in the time, 946 00:49:36,807 --> 00:49:38,076 we learned the songs. 947 00:49:38,176 --> 00:49:43,048 And now-- and there's a tremendous spirit that-- 948 00:49:43,148 --> 00:49:45,050 at the bottom of the New York Dolls. 949 00:49:45,150 --> 00:49:49,154 And it's got to do with me, Syl, and David. 950 00:49:49,254 --> 00:49:50,421 There are three living New York Dolls, 951 00:49:50,521 --> 00:49:52,190 and there are three dead New York Dolls. 952 00:49:52,290 --> 00:49:55,060 And so the people who are dead, they are 953 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,928 with us also in spirit somehow. 954 00:49:58,029 --> 00:49:59,797 This is not-- this is like me being 955 00:49:59,897 --> 00:50:01,299 in the Family History Center. 956 00:50:01,399 --> 00:50:02,767 We're playing for our fans. 957 00:50:02,867 --> 00:50:04,335 They want us to sound good. 958 00:50:04,435 --> 00:50:08,206 They-- they're encouraging us to sound good, and they-- 959 00:50:08,306 --> 00:50:15,146 they're-- their hopes and dreams are with us, you know. 960 00:50:15,246 --> 00:50:18,083 So, to me, that type of audience. 961 00:50:18,183 --> 00:50:19,284 To me that's not even-- 962 00:50:19,384 --> 00:50:20,818 that's not an audience, you know. 963 00:50:20,918 --> 00:50:22,387 It's just a bunch of friends. 964 00:50:22,487 --> 00:50:27,692 I may be a dreamer, but the dream has come true, you know? 965 00:50:27,792 --> 00:50:30,895 I'm going to ask the people at the Marriott Essex house, 966 00:50:30,995 --> 00:50:33,864 where did you get this long jacket thing? 967 00:50:33,964 --> 00:50:35,166 It's pretty hip. 968 00:50:35,266 --> 00:50:36,467 INTERVIEWER: So, now, explain that again. 969 00:50:36,567 --> 00:50:39,504 You'd like to dress like one of the bellhops? 970 00:50:39,604 --> 00:50:42,673 Well I don't know if it's the bellhop or whatever. 971 00:50:42,773 --> 00:50:44,209 But there is someone here-- 972 00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:45,743 there's someone on the staff that's wearing 973 00:50:45,843 --> 00:50:48,313 a-- kind of, a formal long jacket 974 00:50:48,413 --> 00:50:49,847 with little gold epaulets-- 975 00:50:49,947 --> 00:50:52,350 The society calls the Golden Keys. 976 00:50:52,450 --> 00:50:54,285 Has any rock star ever asked for your coat before? 977 00:50:54,385 --> 00:50:55,920 Uh, no. First time. 978 00:50:56,020 --> 00:50:57,455 First time I've had this request, yes. 979 00:51:01,126 --> 00:51:02,527 Where is the jacket? 980 00:51:02,627 --> 00:51:04,729 INTERVIEWER: The concierge gave up his jacket for you. 981 00:51:07,798 --> 00:51:10,435 Well I guess we don't have any buttons on here, but-- 982 00:51:17,608 --> 00:51:18,709 Not bad. 983 00:51:18,809 --> 00:51:19,844 This is not bad. 984 00:51:19,944 --> 00:51:23,948 I would definitely-- 985 00:51:24,048 --> 00:51:25,250 You wear what you want to wear. 986 00:51:25,350 --> 00:51:28,085 - Yeah. - But you look cool in it. 987 00:51:28,186 --> 00:51:29,687 I think that looked pretty cool. 988 00:51:29,787 --> 00:51:31,722 MAN: Do you want somebody to go get your leather pants, Arthur? 989 00:51:37,795 --> 00:51:41,699 He was telling me just today that he's bought some boots, 990 00:51:41,799 --> 00:51:46,571 and he wants to find a long coat that goes down to his knees. 991 00:51:46,671 --> 00:51:50,941 He wants to convey a Joseph Smith kind of image. 992 00:51:51,041 --> 00:51:52,477 He said, I have, kind of, a white ruffly 993 00:51:52,577 --> 00:51:54,812 shirt and black leather pants. 994 00:51:54,912 --> 00:51:57,548 Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, you know, pick your prophet. 995 00:51:57,648 --> 00:51:59,150 That's who Arthur wants to be when he's 996 00:51:59,250 --> 00:52:00,385 wants to be when he's on stage. 997 00:52:11,929 --> 00:52:14,232 Um, I may be on time. 998 00:52:14,332 --> 00:52:16,133 But rock n' roll is not on time. 999 00:52:16,234 --> 00:52:17,768 Yeah, go for it. 1000 00:52:17,868 --> 00:52:19,470 Really. 1001 00:52:19,570 --> 00:52:21,071 I just didn't find any feather bows. 1002 00:52:21,172 --> 00:52:22,006 Oh. 1003 00:52:22,106 --> 00:52:22,907 You guys good? 1004 00:52:23,007 --> 00:52:24,309 You steal my heart. 1005 00:52:24,409 --> 00:52:26,244 NARRATOR: Okay guys, we're on stage in 20 minutes. 1006 00:52:26,344 --> 00:52:27,678 You look great by the way. 1007 00:52:27,778 --> 00:52:32,217 It's really-- you put together a fabulous outfit. 1008 00:52:32,317 --> 00:52:33,684 And you know the pirate-- the whole pirate 1009 00:52:33,784 --> 00:52:39,924 thing, the whole swashbuckling thing, is very [french] 1010 00:52:40,024 --> 00:52:41,326 Johnny Depp. 1011 00:52:41,426 --> 00:52:44,495 Johnny Depp, yeah, [inaudible]. 1012 00:52:44,595 --> 00:52:46,464 [cheering] 1013 00:52:49,967 --> 00:52:51,302 Right. 1014 00:52:51,402 --> 00:52:53,170 This is going to be a night you better believe it. 1015 00:52:53,271 --> 00:52:55,740 We have people ready for it. 1016 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,774 Make some noise. 1017 00:53:13,891 --> 00:53:15,726 Is that your guy. 1018 00:53:19,163 --> 00:53:21,532 I mean you're lovely. 1019 00:53:21,632 --> 00:53:24,869 John Smith, and his wonderful Brigham Young people. 1020 00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:53,598 Oh 1021 00:53:53,698 --> 00:53:56,267 I'm going to take the Mormon tobacco 1022 00:53:56,367 --> 00:53:59,003 assessment blessing program. 1023 00:53:59,103 --> 00:54:02,039 What else do you have to do? 1024 00:54:02,139 --> 00:54:04,675 Yeah they didn't smoke when Moses went up on the hill. 1025 00:54:13,584 --> 00:54:15,185 Caffeine turns you into a speed freak. 1026 00:54:15,286 --> 00:54:16,521 KANE: Yeah. 1027 00:54:16,621 --> 00:54:18,423 Nicotine is the most addictive drug there is. 1028 00:54:18,523 --> 00:54:19,724 KANE: Oh, that's, that's-- 1029 00:55:05,436 --> 00:55:06,504 David I'm saying the prayer today. 1030 00:55:06,604 --> 00:55:07,705 You are? Okay. 1031 00:55:07,805 --> 00:55:09,273 Yeah. 1032 00:55:09,374 --> 00:55:11,542 Our kind and gracious Heavenly Father, 1033 00:55:11,642 --> 00:55:14,278 as we bow our heads before Thee this day, 1034 00:55:14,379 --> 00:55:15,446 we wish to thank Thee. 1035 00:55:15,546 --> 00:55:17,014 It is with gratitude in our hearts 1036 00:55:17,114 --> 00:55:19,216 that we wish to thank Thee for the many multiple blessings 1037 00:55:19,316 --> 00:55:21,486 that you bring into our lives. 1038 00:55:21,586 --> 00:55:24,422 All of our lives, and dear help me father, 1039 00:55:24,522 --> 00:55:27,892 if there was any band that is sound-- 1040 00:55:27,992 --> 00:55:32,430 wishes to thank you for this great blessing, 1041 00:55:32,530 --> 00:55:33,898 it's the New York Dolls. 1042 00:55:33,998 --> 00:55:39,103 We ask that the spirits of Johnny, Billy, and Jerry 1043 00:55:39,203 --> 00:55:43,408 be with us this evening, also. 1044 00:55:43,508 --> 00:55:48,413 And dear Heavenly Father, we ask that we play well. 1045 00:55:48,513 --> 00:55:50,114 That we have fun. 1046 00:55:50,214 --> 00:55:51,749 The audience has fun. 1047 00:55:51,849 --> 00:55:56,921 And that everyone will have a great time. 1048 00:55:57,021 --> 00:55:59,724 And dear Heavenly Father, for these things 1049 00:55:59,824 --> 00:56:01,459 we pray in the name of thy beloved Son 1050 00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:02,827 and that's the Jesus Christ. 1051 00:56:02,927 --> 00:56:03,828 Amen. 1052 00:56:03,928 --> 00:56:05,295 ALL: Amen. 1053 00:56:05,396 --> 00:56:06,397 Oh, Arthur. 1054 00:56:10,701 --> 00:56:13,203 Very well put, baby. 1055 00:56:13,303 --> 00:56:14,371 Beautiful. 1056 00:56:17,274 --> 00:56:18,776 Let's hit it! 1057 00:56:18,876 --> 00:56:20,578 And now. 1058 00:56:20,678 --> 00:56:24,549 For a kid from New York, Ha came to do this, 1059 00:56:24,649 --> 00:56:27,552 change the world with his rock. 1060 00:56:27,652 --> 00:56:30,154 Please welcome the New York Dolls! 1061 00:56:33,624 --> 00:56:37,728 [MUSIC - NEW YORK DOLLS, "JET BOY FLY"] 1062 00:57:18,503 --> 00:57:21,371 JOHANSEN: (SINGING) Who's so fly up in the sky? 1063 00:57:21,472 --> 00:57:24,374 Faster than any boy could ever describe. 1064 00:57:24,475 --> 00:57:26,777 Who has got a love so deep? 1065 00:57:26,877 --> 00:57:29,346 With everything alive, I said 1066 00:57:29,446 --> 00:57:30,948 ALL: (SINGING) Jet boys fly. 1067 00:57:31,048 --> 00:57:31,949 Jet boy's gone. 1068 00:57:32,049 --> 00:57:34,752 Jet boy stole my baby! 1069 00:57:34,852 --> 00:57:37,922 JOHANSEN: (SINGING) Flyin' around New York City so high 1070 00:57:38,022 --> 00:57:39,924 like he was my baby. 1071 00:57:48,799 --> 00:57:50,300 This is the kinda place where no one 1072 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,671 cares what you're living for. 1073 00:57:53,771 --> 00:57:58,342 But Jet boy's so preoccupied, he don't care about before, 1074 00:57:58,442 --> 00:57:59,343 that's why-- 1075 00:57:59,443 --> 00:58:00,878 ALL: (SINGING) Jet boys fly. 1076 00:58:00,978 --> 00:58:02,246 Jet boy's gone. 1077 00:58:02,346 --> 00:58:04,048 Jet boy stole my baby. 1078 00:58:04,148 --> 00:58:07,251 JOHANSEN: (SINGING) He's flyin' around New York City so high, 1079 00:58:07,351 --> 00:58:09,253 like he was my baby. 1080 00:58:14,925 --> 00:58:16,827 My baby. 1081 00:58:25,269 --> 00:58:29,273 Well I was worried that the reality would destroy the myth. 1082 00:58:29,373 --> 00:58:32,276 My kids listen to the Dolls, because typically, they've 1083 00:58:32,376 --> 00:58:33,678 gone through dad's collection. 1084 00:58:33,778 --> 00:58:36,246 And I said I've got tickets for the Dolls. 1085 00:58:36,346 --> 00:58:38,415 After they got out of school. 1086 00:58:38,515 --> 00:58:40,417 And they said, we don't want to go. 1087 00:58:40,517 --> 00:58:43,020 And I said, excuse me? 1088 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,088 The New York Dolls? 1089 00:58:44,188 --> 00:58:45,222 You know? 1090 00:58:45,322 --> 00:58:46,423 And they said, no, because it won't 1091 00:58:46,523 --> 00:58:48,058 be like the poster on the wall and it 1092 00:58:48,158 --> 00:58:49,193 won't be like the record. 1093 00:58:49,293 --> 00:58:50,895 And as I left tonight, they refused to come, 1094 00:58:50,995 --> 00:58:53,130 they were playing the record and looking at the poster. 1095 00:58:53,230 --> 00:58:56,567 But they were afraid, kind of like me, that I 1096 00:58:56,667 --> 00:58:57,902 was just reliving my youth. 1097 00:58:58,002 --> 00:59:00,304 Because you fear the-- you fear the absolute 1098 00:59:00,404 --> 00:59:01,872 worst in these events. 1099 00:59:01,972 --> 00:59:05,743 And you're convinced that it can only be disappointing. 1100 00:59:05,843 --> 00:59:07,311 And the past is the past. 1101 00:59:07,411 --> 00:59:08,879 And it's a long time ago. 1102 00:59:08,979 --> 00:59:11,849 And whoever made that great music 1103 00:59:11,949 --> 00:59:13,183 is now going to look silly. 1104 00:59:16,821 --> 00:59:18,589 But that wasn't the case. 1105 00:59:18,689 --> 00:59:21,258 The guys delivered, 100%. 1106 00:59:21,358 --> 00:59:26,396 They did it absolutely right, and everybody was just aghast. 1107 00:59:26,496 --> 00:59:27,998 Jet boys fly. 1108 00:59:28,098 --> 00:59:29,366 Jet boy's gone. 1109 00:59:29,466 --> 00:59:31,769 Jet boy stole my baby. 1110 00:59:31,869 --> 00:59:36,907 Flyin' around New York City so high, like he was my baby. 1111 00:59:40,811 --> 00:59:43,080 I don't think he ever really believed that he would ever 1112 00:59:43,180 --> 00:59:45,716 be standing on a stage playing those songs again, 1113 00:59:45,816 --> 00:59:48,018 with David and Sylvain. 1114 00:59:48,118 --> 00:59:49,954 And-- I just-- 1115 00:59:50,054 --> 00:59:51,756 watching him throughout the night, 1116 00:59:51,856 --> 00:59:57,628 I could just see a sense of bewilderment, sadness, and joy. 1117 00:59:57,728 --> 00:59:59,730 Everything was in his face. 1118 00:59:59,830 --> 01:00:02,266 And I think he was just praying throughout the night. 1119 01:00:02,366 --> 01:00:07,304 Praying with thanks to somebody whom he now believed in. 1120 01:00:15,746 --> 01:00:19,249 [MUSIC - BYU SINGERS, "GIVE ME JESUS"] 1121 01:00:40,070 --> 01:00:44,775 JOHANSEN: When the Dolls broke up, 1122 01:00:44,875 --> 01:00:47,011 I kind of, like, took a look at myself, you know, and said, 1123 01:00:47,111 --> 01:00:49,279 you know, you're such an asshole. 1124 01:00:49,379 --> 01:00:51,448 And I started changing. 1125 01:00:51,548 --> 01:00:57,922 You know, Arthur is such a beautiful, brilliant, droll, 1126 01:00:58,022 --> 01:00:59,456 but, like, sensitive cat. 1127 01:00:59,556 --> 01:01:00,858 You know. 1128 01:01:00,958 --> 01:01:06,430 His inner core is strong, man, he can stand firm, 1129 01:01:06,530 --> 01:01:08,232 stand up for himself. 1130 01:01:08,332 --> 01:01:09,800 NARRATOR: David, I notice that Arthur didn't 1131 01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:12,402 move around a lot on stage. 1132 01:01:12,502 --> 01:01:13,738 No. 1133 01:01:13,838 --> 01:01:16,040 The vibes of bass actually makes you have-- 1134 01:01:16,140 --> 01:01:17,975 I've got to stand still here. 1135 01:01:18,075 --> 01:01:23,080 Because I'm getting such severe vibrations coming through. 1136 01:01:23,180 --> 01:01:27,017 And It's all down there, you know, it's in the loin. 1137 01:01:27,117 --> 01:01:29,419 I don't think it's really about the personality. 1138 01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:33,023 I think it's about, how is God playing through him. 1139 01:01:33,123 --> 01:01:35,926 So if he loves God, he'd be a great bass player. 1140 01:01:36,026 --> 01:01:39,029 David Johansen, still a fantastic showman. 1141 01:01:39,129 --> 01:01:42,232 Sylvain is the heart and soul. 1142 01:01:42,332 --> 01:01:44,401 And Arthur truly remains the only living 1143 01:01:44,501 --> 01:01:46,536 statue in rock n' roll. 1144 01:01:46,636 --> 01:01:48,538 [MUSIC - NEW YORK DOLLS, "JET BOY FLY"] 1145 01:01:48,638 --> 01:01:52,910 JOHANSEN: (SINGING) Like he was my baby. 1146 01:01:53,010 --> 01:01:58,916 When jet boys fly you know he's gone. 1147 01:01:59,016 --> 01:02:03,921 He been gone, gone gone gone. 1148 01:02:04,021 --> 01:02:06,523 And he been flyin'. 1149 01:02:06,623 --> 01:02:09,493 He been flyin'. 1150 01:02:09,593 --> 01:02:12,096 He been flyin'. 1151 01:02:12,196 --> 01:02:14,899 Up all night. 1152 01:02:14,999 --> 01:02:20,470 Baby New York City, Baby so so high. 1153 01:02:20,570 --> 01:02:23,073 It's so so high. 1154 01:02:23,173 --> 01:02:26,476 It's so so high. 1155 01:02:26,576 --> 01:02:29,479 Like he was my baby. 1156 01:02:29,579 --> 01:02:31,882 ALL: (SINGING) Like he was my baby. 1157 01:02:31,982 --> 01:02:34,852 SYLVAIN: (SINGING) Like he was my baby. 1158 01:02:34,952 --> 01:02:37,855 ALL: (SINGING) he was my baby. 1159 01:02:37,955 --> 01:02:40,257 SYLVAIN: (SINGING) Like he was my baby. 1160 01:02:40,357 --> 01:02:42,459 ALL: (SINGING) Like he was my baby. 1161 01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:43,460 My, my baby. 1162 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:44,862 Like he was my baby. 1163 01:02:44,962 --> 01:02:46,463 My, my baby. 1164 01:02:46,563 --> 01:02:48,065 Like he was my baby. 1165 01:02:48,165 --> 01:02:48,833 Be my baby. 1166 01:02:48,933 --> 01:02:51,435 Like he was my baby. 1167 01:02:51,535 --> 01:02:52,837 Like he was my baby. 1168 01:02:52,937 --> 01:02:54,438 JOHANSEN: (SINGING) Like he was my baby 1169 01:02:54,538 --> 01:02:55,705 Like he was my baby. 1170 01:02:55,806 --> 01:02:56,841 JOHANSEN: (SINGING) Like he was my baby. 1171 01:02:56,941 --> 01:02:59,844 Like he was my baby. 1172 01:02:59,944 --> 01:03:02,046 JOHANSEN: (SINGING) Like he was my baby. 1173 01:03:05,515 --> 01:03:07,417 My baby. 1174 01:03:13,123 --> 01:03:15,792 Jet boy! 1175 01:03:15,893 --> 01:03:16,994 JOHANSEN: Sylvain Sylvain! 1176 01:03:20,898 --> 01:03:21,999 Steve Conte! 1177 01:03:24,902 --> 01:03:28,205 Brian Koonin! 1178 01:03:28,305 --> 01:03:30,374 From The Libertines, Gary Powell! 1179 01:03:35,279 --> 01:03:39,984 And a miracle of God's creation, Arthur Killer Kane. 1180 01:03:43,487 --> 01:03:44,955 God bless you, London! 1181 01:04:00,337 --> 01:04:03,307 A rock n' roll band likes to make people happy. 1182 01:04:03,407 --> 01:04:06,376 It's part of-- it's really, that's what my-- our job is. 1183 01:04:06,476 --> 01:04:07,677 To make people dance. 1184 01:04:07,777 --> 01:04:08,946 And to get excited. 1185 01:04:09,046 --> 01:04:09,980 It's like show time. 1186 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:11,515 We make excitement, you know. 1187 01:04:11,615 --> 01:04:14,251 I can remember telling them, hey gosh, congratulations. 1188 01:04:14,351 --> 01:04:18,322 You played again after 30 years, and what a great success story. 1189 01:04:18,422 --> 01:04:21,325 And he quickly corrected me and said, 1190 01:04:21,425 --> 01:04:24,128 no, the success is that I was able to go 1191 01:04:24,228 --> 01:04:25,729 back with my good friends. 1192 01:04:25,829 --> 01:04:29,033 And go back and mend fences with David. 1193 01:04:29,133 --> 01:04:32,136 That's-- that's what was so important about 1194 01:04:32,236 --> 01:04:34,071 getting back together again. 1195 01:04:34,171 --> 01:04:36,606 That was excellent. 1196 01:04:36,706 --> 01:04:37,574 That was excellent. 1197 01:04:37,674 --> 01:04:39,109 That was raw. 1198 01:04:39,209 --> 01:04:39,876 Mhmm. 1199 01:04:39,977 --> 01:04:41,045 Real raw. 1200 01:04:51,555 --> 01:04:52,822 Oh, God. 1201 01:04:52,923 --> 01:04:55,792 Oh I love you so much. 1202 01:04:55,892 --> 01:04:57,327 Oh, you make me so happy. 1203 01:05:00,697 --> 01:05:02,432 - I love Arthur. - Arthur. 1204 01:05:02,532 --> 01:05:04,368 Arthur. 1205 01:05:04,468 --> 01:05:05,970 Such good bass. 1206 01:05:06,070 --> 01:05:10,440 You know so on, so on, such sexual bass. 1207 01:05:10,540 --> 01:05:12,342 Arthur. 1208 01:05:12,442 --> 01:05:13,277 The Killer. 1209 01:05:13,377 --> 01:05:14,044 The Killer. 1210 01:05:14,144 --> 01:05:15,946 No, you're not killing. 1211 01:05:16,046 --> 01:05:19,683 [interposing voices] 1212 01:05:19,783 --> 01:05:21,085 Call me Arthur. 1213 01:05:21,185 --> 01:05:25,022 [interposing voices] 1214 01:05:25,122 --> 01:05:26,390 - She just wanted to say hi. - Hi. 1215 01:05:26,490 --> 01:05:27,557 Hi, how are you. 1216 01:05:27,657 --> 01:05:29,559 Arthur has aged very well. 1217 01:05:29,659 --> 01:05:31,561 It's not his fault, his hair. 1218 01:05:31,661 --> 01:05:33,030 You guys were fantastic. 1219 01:05:33,130 --> 01:05:37,167 One of the best things I've ever seen. 1220 01:05:37,267 --> 01:05:38,302 Doing this evening, man. 1221 01:05:38,402 --> 01:05:39,303 New shoes. 1222 01:05:42,572 --> 01:05:45,209 I love those shoes. 1223 01:05:45,309 --> 01:05:47,111 Up on the stage, did you see me smiling at you? 1224 01:05:47,211 --> 01:05:48,412 We were going, Arthur, Arthur. 1225 01:06:05,996 --> 01:06:07,564 And I went to him later. 1226 01:06:07,664 --> 01:06:11,101 And I said absolutely fantastic playing. 1227 01:06:11,201 --> 01:06:13,137 And his eyes were welling. 1228 01:06:13,237 --> 01:06:16,006 GELDOF: He looks just at, home you know, it's the truth. 1229 01:06:16,106 --> 01:06:19,876 He looks, like, he looked totally easy on the stage. 1230 01:06:19,976 --> 01:06:21,645 I could do without the leather pants. 1231 01:06:21,745 --> 01:06:23,013 A bit of a mistake. 1232 01:06:23,113 --> 01:06:26,183 You know, and the Diamante tie look, you know. 1233 01:06:26,283 --> 01:06:28,152 But that's probably the Mormon influence. 1234 01:06:28,252 --> 01:06:29,753 He shouldn't go back to that library. 1235 01:06:29,853 --> 01:06:34,624 He was he was telling me that he was a bit sad, that on Monday 1236 01:06:34,724 --> 01:06:37,827 morning, he'd put on a suit, and he'd put on the tie and shirt, 1237 01:06:37,927 --> 01:06:38,962 and get to get on the bus. 1238 01:06:39,063 --> 01:06:40,497 There's room for both. 1239 01:06:40,597 --> 01:06:42,999 And, you know, I think he should put on his Diamante tie 1240 01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:44,334 and get on the band bus. 1241 01:06:54,078 --> 01:06:58,948 Some [inaudible] wants to look at this. 1242 01:06:59,049 --> 01:07:01,351 Plug for-- 1243 01:07:01,451 --> 01:07:03,120 NARRATOR: It's a modern-day lunacy. 1244 01:07:05,955 --> 01:07:10,560 TIPPETT: My concern was that he would come back from London. 1245 01:07:10,660 --> 01:07:14,498 He'd just come back to his apartment, here in Los Angeles, 1246 01:07:14,598 --> 01:07:17,834 and his life would be the same as it was before. 1247 01:07:17,934 --> 01:07:20,404 And, it occurred to me, that that 1248 01:07:20,504 --> 01:07:21,771 could be very painful for him. 1249 01:07:26,110 --> 01:07:29,379 There's just so much noise out here. 1250 01:07:29,479 --> 01:07:31,115 Okay, this is a song I would normally 1251 01:07:31,215 --> 01:07:34,918 play for my inspirational message, inside the Family 1252 01:07:35,018 --> 01:07:38,122 History Center, for my fellow workers 1253 01:07:38,222 --> 01:07:40,857 in the Family History Center. 1254 01:07:40,957 --> 01:07:43,827 This song is called Love One Another. 1255 01:08:02,846 --> 01:08:05,081 TIPPETT: He seemed to have jet lag for several days, 1256 01:08:05,182 --> 01:08:06,283 which wasn't surprising. 1257 01:08:06,383 --> 01:08:07,884 NARRATOR: He did say he was tired 1258 01:08:07,984 --> 01:08:12,156 and felt like he had picked up a cold while he was over there. 1259 01:08:14,491 --> 01:08:16,960 NARRATOR: He didn't know he was sick. 1260 01:08:17,060 --> 01:08:22,065 TIPPETT: On July 13th, he said he needed 1261 01:08:22,166 --> 01:08:23,300 to go to the emergency room. 1262 01:08:32,442 --> 01:08:33,277 Amen. 1263 01:08:36,446 --> 01:08:37,681 NEWSCAST: And pioneering glam rock 1264 01:08:37,781 --> 01:08:39,583 bass player Arthur Kane, of the New York Dolls, 1265 01:08:39,683 --> 01:08:41,218 died in Los Angeles Tuesday night, 1266 01:08:41,318 --> 01:08:43,220 according to billboard.com. 1267 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,755 The group's manager says Kane had leukemia. 1268 01:08:45,855 --> 01:08:47,257 He was 55. 1269 01:08:47,357 --> 01:08:49,459 Kane is the fourth New York Doll to pass away, 1270 01:08:49,559 --> 01:08:51,461 including guitarist Johnny Thunder, who died 1271 01:08:51,561 --> 01:09:06,142 of a drug overdose in 1991. 1272 01:09:06,243 --> 01:09:09,646 It's a tragedy, because we lost a really sweet man. 1273 01:09:09,746 --> 01:09:10,380 And a good friend. 1274 01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:12,516 And a very good friend. 1275 01:09:12,616 --> 01:09:16,253 And-- but it is a blessing that he passed so rapidly, 1276 01:09:16,353 --> 01:09:17,521 without having to suffer. 1277 01:09:17,621 --> 01:09:20,290 Without losing all of his hair and going 1278 01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:23,793 through all of the treatments, and the tremendous amount 1279 01:09:23,893 --> 01:09:25,995 of medical bills and things. 1280 01:09:26,095 --> 01:09:28,365 So, it was a blessing as well. 1281 01:09:28,465 --> 01:09:32,669 If a life must end, as Arthur's did, 1282 01:09:32,769 --> 01:09:36,373 it was a beautiful way for him to go. 1283 01:09:36,473 --> 01:09:40,344 People who have really been in the war, but then 1284 01:09:40,444 --> 01:09:44,248 came out the other end as, you know, for lack of a better 1285 01:09:44,348 --> 01:09:47,417 word, spiritual beings. 1286 01:09:47,517 --> 01:09:50,487 That's the greatest kind of person in the world, to me. 1287 01:09:53,056 --> 01:09:56,860 Don't have that big tall guy to call on when you need help. 1288 01:09:59,463 --> 01:10:03,300 But, we're trying to carry on without him. 1289 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:04,834 [MUSIC - THE SMITHS, "PLEASE, PLEASE, 1290 01:10:04,934 --> 01:10:10,640 PLEASE LET ME GET WHAT I WANT] Good times, for a change. 1291 01:10:10,740 --> 01:10:15,679 See the luck I've had can make a good man turn back. 1292 01:10:18,515 --> 01:10:24,454 So please, please, please, let me, let me, 1293 01:10:24,554 --> 01:10:31,428 let me, let me get what I want this time. 1294 01:10:39,436 --> 01:10:42,706 Haven't had a dream in a long time. 1295 01:10:45,342 --> 01:10:49,846 See the life I've had can make a good man bad. 1296 01:10:52,616 --> 01:11:01,525 So, for once in my life, let me get what I want. 1297 01:11:01,625 --> 01:11:05,329 Lord knows, it would be the first time. 1298 01:11:09,198 --> 01:11:13,269 Lord knows it would be the first time. 1299 01:11:55,845 --> 01:12:01,918 JOHANSEN: The miracle of God's creation, Arthur Killer Kane. 1300 01:12:02,018 --> 01:12:18,668 [MUSIC - NEW YORK DOLLS, "PRIVATE WORLD"] Oh, 1301 01:12:18,768 --> 01:12:20,069 break down. 1302 01:12:27,176 --> 01:12:31,047 To a private world. 1303 01:12:31,147 --> 01:12:34,851 To a private world. 1304 01:12:34,951 --> 01:12:38,455 Well I just lost a love, she drowned or something else. 1305 01:12:38,555 --> 01:12:42,058 'Cause I get cool and lonely feeling sorry for myself. 1306 01:12:42,158 --> 01:12:45,429 I need a private world. 1307 01:12:45,529 --> 01:12:49,433 A private world. 1308 01:12:49,533 --> 01:12:53,437 Oh you call that driving and you see us dream. 1309 01:12:53,537 --> 01:12:57,040 I call it laughing trying hard not to scream. 1310 01:12:57,140 --> 01:13:00,410 A private world. 1311 01:13:00,510 --> 01:13:04,414 A private world. 1312 01:13:04,514 --> 01:13:07,817 The joint start shaking, its ready to crumble. 1313 01:13:07,917 --> 01:13:11,421 The boys are duking, looking for a rumble. 1314 01:13:11,521 --> 01:13:14,991 I need a private world. 1315 01:13:15,091 --> 01:13:18,194 JOHANSEN: Two, three, 1316 01:13:18,294 --> 01:13:32,375 [MUSIC - NEW YORK DOLLS, "A POOR WAYFARING MAN OF GRIEF] 1317 01:13:32,476 --> 01:13:39,382 JOHANSEN: (SINGING) A poor wayfaring man of grief, 1318 01:13:39,483 --> 01:13:43,653 Hath often passed me on my way. 1319 01:13:46,456 --> 01:13:50,694 Who sued so humbly for relief. 1320 01:13:53,563 --> 01:13:58,401 That I could never answer nay. 1321 01:13:58,502 --> 01:14:05,174 I had not power to ask his name, whither he went, 1322 01:14:05,274 --> 01:14:06,776 or whence he came. 1323 01:14:10,046 --> 01:14:17,120 Yet there was something in his eye 1324 01:14:17,220 --> 01:14:21,190 That one my love I know not why. 1325 01:14:29,899 --> 01:14:36,272 Once when my scanty meal was spread he entered, 1326 01:14:36,372 --> 01:14:40,243 not a word was spake. 1327 01:14:40,343 --> 01:14:44,514 Just perishing for want of bread. 1328 01:14:47,416 --> 01:14:51,788 I gave him all he blessed it and brake. 1329 01:14:51,888 --> 01:14:56,926 He ate but gave me part again. 1330 01:14:57,026 --> 01:15:00,897 Mine was an angel's portion then. 1331 01:15:03,767 --> 01:15:14,844 For while I fed in eager haste, The crust was mana to my taste. 1332 01:15:23,119 --> 01:15:27,691 In prison I saw him next, condemned. 1333 01:15:30,226 --> 01:15:34,030 To me a traitor's doom at morn. 1334 01:15:36,733 --> 01:15:45,208 The tide of lying tongues I stemmed, And honored 1335 01:15:45,308 --> 01:15:48,578 him midst shame and scorn. 1336 01:15:48,678 --> 01:15:53,416 My friendship's utmost zeal to try, 1337 01:15:53,516 --> 01:15:57,921 He asked if I, for him, would die. 1338 01:16:00,657 --> 01:16:06,963 The flesh was weak, my blood ran chill. 1339 01:16:07,063 --> 01:16:12,101 But my free spirit cried, I will. 1340 01:16:20,009 --> 01:16:28,752 Then in a moment, to my view, the stranger 1341 01:16:28,852 --> 01:16:31,220 started from disguise. 1342 01:16:34,590 --> 01:16:38,862 The tokens in his hands, I knew. 1343 01:16:41,665 --> 01:16:46,435 The Saviour stood before my eyes. 1344 01:16:46,535 --> 01:16:50,874 He spake, and my poor name he named. 1345 01:16:50,974 --> 01:16:54,878 Of me, though has not been ashamed. 1346 01:16:58,181 --> 01:17:02,686 These deeds shall they memorial be. 1347 01:17:05,188 --> 01:17:11,027 Fear not, thou didst them unto me. 97249

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