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RADIO HOST 1: The New York Times,
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this past Sunday, there was an article about
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the first black punk rock group
called Death in the '70s.
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And they found these old recordings.
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And they have an album
that they put out now.
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They have pictures of these guys
back in the '70s. One of them died.
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And now I'm dying to hear
this fucking group's music.
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- Should be good.
- RADIO HOST 2: What were they called?
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RADIO HOST 1: They were called Death.
RADIO HOST 3: Death.
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(WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE???
PLAYING)
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HENRY ROLLINS: The quick version
of the Death story is almost like the tease
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at the beginning of a movie trailer.
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Three black guys, in the '70s,
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from Detroit, Michigan, blood brothers.
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Three black cats from Detroit,
played heavy, punk, rock 'n' roll.
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ALICE COOPER: It's pretty hard to
be black playing rock in Detroit.
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'Cause they were sort of stereotyped into...
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You had to be Motown, if you were black.
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Death's music was definitely
ahead of its time.
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They really predated
what we know as the punk movement.
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Nobody was making music like that in '73.
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They have to be properly credited
as being visionaries.
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(SINGING)
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ELIJAH WOOD: You have a record
that is so perfect in its innovation,
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it makes it all the more shocking
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that it didn't manage to find a way
to come out then.
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They're kind of like the Unknown Soldiers
of rock.
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BEN BLACKWELL: They were recordings
that were simply put away.
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There's been hardcore history sitting up
in that attic, and no one's known about it.
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Thirty years after the fact,
we're just now discovering this band
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that had been sort of lying in wait.
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It's such a great story and it's, uh...
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It's punk rock.
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Welcome to my neighborhood.
2240 Lillibridge.
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This is where Death was born.
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- This is our old friend...
- No.
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-...that we grew up with.
- This is Kathleen. She lives right here.
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- They telling the story about Death.
- Okay.
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- You remember Death.
- I'm still here.
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No!
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They telling the story about our old band
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that we used to drive you all crazy
with all of our loud music.
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Yeah, I remember that.
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I remember that, yes.
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Oh, yeah, there you go!
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(ALL LAUGHING)
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David... David... You know what?
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But you know what?
That was my boy, though. That was my boy.
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He was all right.
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My name is Dannie Hackney.
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I played the drums, and I was born and raised
in the Motor City, Detroit, Michigan.
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Well, I remember when I...
You all were teenagers, uh...
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- DANNIS: That's right. That's very right.
- Yeah. Right, yeah?
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I'm Bobby Hackney.
I am a bass player.
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My parents, Earl Vonlee Hackney
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and Majora Florida Hackney,
two beautiful people.
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I was the youngest of, uh, four boys.
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Our oldest brother was Earl.
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David was born the second.
And then it was Dannie.
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And, um, I came along.
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EARL JR; I am indeed the eldest,
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and that was ingrained in them also,
because I'd say,
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"Never forget, I'm second in command
to Moms and Pop."
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DAN N IS: Spirituality plays into our life
right from the beginning of our roots.
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You know, our dad was a Baptist minister.
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We're preacher's sons.
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(LAUGHS)
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EARL JR.: Being a minister's kid
taught us the Word,
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from Genesis to Revelation.
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I mean, we all became versed in the Word.
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BOBBY: He always told us, you know,
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if you try your best in life
to keep your promise to God
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and give God time enough
to keep His promise to you.
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DANNIS: My old man instilled into us
to back up your brother.
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So all of our lives we grew up with this idea
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that, you know,
we gotta back up your brother.
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We made a pact with each other
that we would never fight,
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we would never do anything
to hurt each other.
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We were all close.
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I mean, we all were very, very close.
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BOBBY: Moms, you got so many
grandchildren, you can't keep up now.
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- MAJORAI I don't try.
-(ALL LAUGHING)
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I got eight kids.
I'm proud of every one of them.
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- BOBBY: That's right. That's right.
- Love every one of them.
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- Your son, David...
- BOBBY: You're gonna see everybody came...
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I don't know what David's doing up there,
but there's a lot of good things going on
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in our lives, because of all his things.
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- Um, yeah.
-It is.
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Yeah, I know that out of... David...
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We talk about Dave all the time.
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- I know. You said... I know.
- You know, me and Viv, we talk about Dave.
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- Yeah.
- Some of the things he did.
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- Oh!
-(ALL LAUGH)
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DANNIS: I mean, we were kind of crazy kids.
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We thought of some games
that was really weird.
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I remember one time we was having
a squirt gun fight.
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You know, Dave hid behind the garage
and pissed in his.
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(LAUGHS)
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You know, just...
Just some of Dave's pranks, you know.
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EARL JR.: David was kind of creative
when it comes to the...
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I mean, he would put together
some makeshift stuff
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that just would work that...
That you wouldn't believe.
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(LAUGHS)
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DANNIS: He took the telephone one time
and pulled wires and he pinched wires,
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and the next thing you know,
you pick up the phone, it's...
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(ECHOING) Hello.
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(LAUGHS)
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And, you know, we actually have tapes of this.
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David used that to scare people.
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(DIALING)
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(LINE RINGING)
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(MAN SPEAKING)
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(DAVID'S VOICE ECHOING)
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(MAN SPEAKING)
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(DAVID SPEAKING)
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(MAN SPEAKING)
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(DAVID SPEAKING)
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(MAN SPEAKING)
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(DAVID SCREAMS)
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(DIAL TONE BEEPING)
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(WOMAN SPEAKING)
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(DAVID SPEAKING)
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(WOMAN SPEAKING)
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(MOTOWN PLAYING)
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BOBBY'. Uh, growing up in Detroit...
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it was just a... It was a great time.
It was that Motown time.
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You know, that real time when Motown
was churning out all those amazing hits.
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You know, it was just such a bustling town.
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Well, the presence of music,
that all started with my mom and dad.
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They were always music fans.
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-(ALL CHATTERING)
- Just in right here,
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my mother used to have a little clock radio,
little gray radio right in that corner over there.
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Every morning we would sit at the table,
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eating breakfast, listening to CKLW.
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MAN: All right.
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- And they played everything.
- MAN: Mmm-hmm. Yeah, back in the day.
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Aretha Franklin, Bob Seger.
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And I'm thankful to my mom and dad,
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'cause they never held us back
from listening to music.
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They would always tell us,
"Enjoy everything."
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DANNIS: There's so many people
who brought music into the house.
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I mean, it was my dad who sat us down
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and made us watch the Beatles.
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BOBBY: The minute I saw Paul McCartney
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singing and playing that Beatle bass,
you know,
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I wanted to play bass and still wanted to sing.
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Then David tuned in to John Lennon
playing the guitar and...
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And it was David who rallied us to, you know,
be a band and get together and...
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And that made him the leader.
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BOBBY: That's your first drum.
DANNIS: This is my first drum.
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- MAN: What? Jesus Christ.
- Very first drum.
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(LAUGHS) Right here.
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So I used to put two knives,
two butter knives, on here
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to make it sound like a snare.
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DANNIS: One time we had some good luck
in our family
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and our mother got a settlement
from a car accident.
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And suddenly we had some money.
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And she gave us kind of a choice
of what we wanted to do.
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First thing we did was
went to Manny's Music, man.
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Manny's Music!
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BOBBY'. I bought a Rickenbacker guitar
and a Fender guitar.
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David bought a brand-new Fender guitar.
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Bob went and bought himself
an acoustic amplifier,
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so I had to have the best drums I could find.
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I went and bought me
a Slingerland set of drums.
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BOBBY: I had a bass,
Dannie had some drums, David, his guitar.
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We started jamming together.
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MAN 1". Here we go.
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MAN '2". One, two, three, four!
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(ROCK MUSIC PLAYING)
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BOBBY: The first band
that we formed as brothers
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was called Rock Fire Funk Express.
'Cause at that time we wasn't sure
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whether we wanted to be a funk band
or a rock band.
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(MUSIC CONTINUES)
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DANNIS: Rock with a fire, you know,
add a little funk in there
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and just keep on going, like an express.
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(LAUGHS)
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But then the Who came to town.
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And when Dave went down to see them,
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he was like, "That's it."
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You know, "We gotta play this music.
This is the music we gotta play."
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(ROCK MUSIC PLAYING)
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David, every time I would leave, man,
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he would have that stuff playing.
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He'd just be laying there, listening.
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And then I'd come back
and the same thing would be playing.
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DANNIS: You know, when I saw Alice Cooper,
it was like, you know, "All bets are off, man."
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To me, if we ain't playing this,
then I ain't gonna be having no fun.
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BOBBY: Rock 'n' roll just kind of...
We just kind of immersed ourselves in it.
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That's what David called it,
he said, "it's pure rock 'n' roll, man."
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Not like a lot...
You're gonna have your one hit,
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but the pure rock 'n' roll is what
they don't play over the radio, you know?
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That's what David always said.
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MAN: (ON RECORDING) One, two, three, now!
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(BASS GUITAR STRUMMING)
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This is the room where Death was born.
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Look at this door, right here.
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Only something like this could come
from the mind of my brother.
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- That's David's thing, right there, man.
- MAN: Oh, yeah!
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BOBBY: We used to play.
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This was my station, over here.
David was right over here.
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And this was all Dannie' drums.
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And then we had our PAs.
We just gutted the whole room.
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And we just made it
into this little rock 'n' roll haven.
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If it wasn't for our mom...
She let us turn our whole entire room
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into a workroom for music.
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DANNIS: She got behind everything
we wanted to do.
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While I'm on camera, I'm gonna say,
"Thank you, Mom. Thank you."
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BOBBY: And she just made
an agreement with us.
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She said, "Hey, look, 3:00 to 6:00 is your time.
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"After 6:00, you gotta cut it off."
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MAN: (ON RECORDING) All right now,
here we go. We're gonna get this right.
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One, two, three!
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(PUNK MUSIC PLAYING)
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David, he could practice for hours
and hours and hours, literally.
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BOBBY: He got to the point
to where he played along
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with just about every album
that was in our collection.
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So he was learning Queen,
he was learning the Who.
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David had a slogan. He said,
"if I could play chords like Peter Townsend
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"and play lead like Jimi Hendrix,
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"I am the ideal guitar player."
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David's amp was always positioned
right here, because he liked it like that...
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So he could, you know,
roust up the neighbors.
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And then there was like a... Some girls...
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We'd be practicing so loud,
that after we're done with a song,
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we could hear all this
loud knocking on the door.
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And that was them trying to get in.
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One day this transpired and David started
playing these riffs, you know?
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(KEEP ON KNOCKING PLPOHNG)
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You know, we just came up with the words
right then and there, you know?
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-"Keep on knockin'."
-"Keep on knockin'," you know?
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(SONG PLAYING)
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EARL JR.: (LAUGHING)
And then they're playing in the house,
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and, oh, man, they were...
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They sent people down the street
holding their head.
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DANNIS: You know, we would start to practice
and the doors would slam
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and the cop cars would pull up,
because we know they called them on us.
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BOBBY: See, we grew up
in the black community, so...
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At that time people were tuning into, like,
groups like Earth, Wind and Fire.
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DANNIS: And, you know,
here we are in the middle of all of this
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playing rock 'n' roll.
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And, I mean, it was just...
it wasn't a rock 'n' roll culture.
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White boy music!
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I mean, the more people tried
to talk to us about changing,
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I think the deeper we went into rock 'n' roll.
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MAN". One, two, three, now!
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(ROCK-N-ROLL VICTIM PLPOHNG)
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(SINGING)
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All of that is pure anger.
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We are fighting with the neighbors
to maintain our identity.
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And we would not be not heard,
especially with David.
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(LAUGHING) And people
were running around,
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"Turn it down! Turn it down!"
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BOBBY'. My dad, Earl V. Hackney, died.
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Though it was an accident,
I think it impressed us a lot in our lives
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from then on, when they described to us
how he died.
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DANNIS: He was an electric lineman,
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so his job was to climb up the poles,
fix the wires.
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I guess he had a trainee with him one night.
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And this trainee, I guess,
stuck his screwdriver in the wrong place.
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And he got shocked,
and it threw him off the pole.
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So my dad races down the pole, you know,
throws him in the back of the car...
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And they take off for the hospital.
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Butjust so happened, a bar was letting out.
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And there was a person
who was drunk behind the wheel
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and they swung right out in front of him.
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And he slammed right into her
and he died instantly.
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BOBBY". I mean, the last thing that he did
before he left this world was a noble deed.
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He was trying to help someone.
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BOBBY'. I think when my dad died,
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it had really a big effect on David,
as it did all of us.
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Um, and David became obsessed
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with a lot of spirituality.
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Seeing our dad at a funeral,
I think really was for the first time
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that we was up close and personal with dying,
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and the fact that someone that you love...
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You're never gonna see this person
in this existence.
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And that, I think, had a big effect on all of us,
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but on David probably the most.
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DANNIS: Bobby was in school, I was at work.
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So when we get home, David says,
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"Man, I got this great, great new idea
for the name of the band."
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So he holds us in suspense.
Let's run up to the room
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and find out what this great name is
that David then came up with.
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We're waiting with much suspense.
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And as soon as he says,
"Yeah, this is the name, dude. Death."
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Death. Oh, man.
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DANNIS: So me and Bobby
just kind of looked at each other as if to say,
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"This dude's gone way off the deep end."
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I know what I would do
if somebody came up to me
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talking about their band,
the name of their band was Death.
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I'd be like, "You don't wanna...
No, I don't wanna hear it."
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DANNIS: But there again, that old thing
in the back of your head kicks in.
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"Back up your brother. Back up your brother."
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BOBBY: And David always said
that our name would have shock value.
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And we're like, "Why would you say that?"
He says, "Because death is real."
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DANNIS: He had so much conviction,
so much belief,
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until we just went along with it.
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And that was right around the spring of 1974.
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Yeah, that's when we became Death.
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MAN: (ON RECORDING) Death!
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(LET THE WORLD TURN PLAYING)
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(SINGING)
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This picture right here was taken in 1975.
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And from our mother's back yard in Detroit.
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David looked up into the sky
and he saw a triangle.
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As you can see, there's a triangle right there.
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And also there's a face.
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David said that that was the face of God
watching over the triangle.
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And he used to tell us
that was a message to us, you know.
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Hey, this is what Dave was in tune to.
This is what he was all about.
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DANNIS: David wanted to
put a positive spin on death.
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It's kind of like birth.
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It's not a good or a bad thing, it's just a thing.
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BOBBY: Yeah, well, see,
this right here was David's concept.
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He calls it the death triangle.
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And what it basically means
is the three elements of life,
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which is spiritual, mental, physical.
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And this right here means
that's the guiding spirit.
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And that's what David said.
This right here is God.
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DANNIS: The stuff that used to come out
of his head was just so, you know,
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it was original, but, you know,
when you first heard it,
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it just sounded crazy.
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DAVID: (ECHOING) The ultimate trip.
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Death.
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DANNB'. David...
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Okay, since he's proclaiming
the leader of the band...
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We said, "David, we need a contract." Okay?
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So, well, David takes the yellow pages,
nails it to the wall
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and go gets a dart.
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He opens it to the music section,
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where you have all your producers
and music offices and...
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He opens the yellow pages,
nails it to the wall, takes the dart...
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And the dart lands
on Groovesville Productions.
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He said, "Those are the guys
we're gonna call."
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DANNIS: There's Groovesville Productions.
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I always remember these yellow bricks,
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'cause this is where the studio was.
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DANNIS: Now, Groovesville,
they were a production company
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that handled people like
Johnnie Taylor, The Dramatics.
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And their leader was Don Davis,
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who was just a Detroit music mogul.
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Hello. My name is Don Davis.
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I am a record producer.
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I am a music publisher.
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And I am a studio owner.
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And just more recently, I am the proud owner
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of First Independence National Bank.
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DANNIS: Maybe we should knock
on the door and just...
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Yeah.
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The Hackney brothers
came in to my office,
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because before you get to Don Davis,
the producer,
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you had to come through
the Groovesville office,
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which was my domain.
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Hey, how you doing?
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I met the Hackney brothers.
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And played me some demos
that I just thought were absolutely wonderful.
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BOBBY: This was Brian Spears' office,
wasn't it?
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This is the room where Death auditioned
for Brian Spears.
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- This is the room.
- Still got the original furniture.
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He had the tape... On this shelf...
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On this shelf
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he had the reel-to-reel tape.
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And Brian sat in this... At this desk.
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SPEARS: I was just blown away
by the energy of David Hackney.
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He just knew that this is what
their destiny was gonna be.
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DANNIS: Through a couple of auditions,
we ended up signing with them.
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And it just so happens
that they was running the stellar,
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legendary recording studio of Detroit
called United Sounds.
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I mean, if you were a musician in Detroit,
you knew about United Sounds.
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SPEARS: Let's see, I can tell you
the exact date they were in the studio.
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They were in the studio
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February the 18th,
it was a Wednesday, in 1975.
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"Death and Legacy are in the studio cutting."
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(LAUGHS) It's right here.
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BOBBY: We used to just love
to come here, man.
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This is where we spent
the entire summer of 1975.
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We spent it right around,
in and around this building,
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recording that Death album.
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The moment that that band
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fired up those instruments,
it was just amazing.
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MAN". One, two, three, now!
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(PUNK MUSIC PLAYING)
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I think with every song that they played,
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the energy level
just kept growing and growing,
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because they just wanted to show
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every bit of talent that they had
on every song.
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(POLITICIANS IN MY EYES PLAYING)
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SPEARS: It was amazing to me,
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to see such young players
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have so much to say through their music.
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BOBBY: Course, we were the loudest thing
that they'd ever seen.
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David, he went in there and he showed them
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-what his double-stacked Marshalls could do.
- Yeah.
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And they were like, "Okay, we hear it.
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"Please turn it down."
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(LAUGHS)
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Exactly.
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SPEARS: Once we were pretty much happy
with the mixes,
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I grabbed Don Davis and I said to Don,
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"Look,you“.
You've gotta listen to these guys."
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00:28:46,934 --> 00:28:51,856
I'm like, "Brian, have you lost your mind?
403
00:28:53,149 --> 00:28:57,236
"Nobody is going to buy a song
404
00:28:57,486 --> 00:29:00,781
"on a group called D-E-A-T-H.
405
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:04,618
"What's the matter with you?"
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(STAMMERING) I know the name is
gonna be a drawback,
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but, you know, I convinced Don
that on his next trip, we need to start
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showing the group around.
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BOBBY: We got turned down
by every major label in the UK.
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'Cause, I mean,
we had gotten a rejection letter
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that said we tried all these labels.
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He says, "As far as I'm concerned,
don't even look anymore."
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DANNIS: He went all the way
pretty much around the world
414
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looking for a contract.
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Everybody turned us down.
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The name had really seemed
to be a roadblock.
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So I got this
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setting with Clive Davis.
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And it caused a very interesting stir,
420
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because they were really focused
on this record,
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00:30:05,971 --> 00:30:07,932
and they wanted to get involved in it.
422
00:30:08,015 --> 00:30:12,353
The first reaction was,
"Hey, this... You know, great stuff."
423
00:30:12,978 --> 00:30:16,774
Possibly we may be on the brink of a deal,
424
00:30:17,525 --> 00:30:19,401
but there's one sticking point.
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Clive Davis expressed
that he really didn't care
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for the name of the band.
427
00:30:25,699 --> 00:30:29,703
Brian had told us, he says,
"You guys might have a record deal, uh,
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"if you are willing to change the name."
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DAN N IS: That sent David into another place,
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because he had his Death concept
and the concept went with the name
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and the band went with the concept,
and nothing could change!
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BOBBY: David, in no uncertain terms,
just said, "Tell Clive Davis to go to hell. "
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00:30:52,351 --> 00:30:57,147
DANNIS: Okay, so David,
our illustrious leader, turned the deal down.
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00:31:02,444 --> 00:31:06,866
When that came out of David's mouth,
me and Bob had nothing coming out of ours.
435
00:31:07,533 --> 00:31:08,909
We were flabbergasted.
436
00:31:08,951 --> 00:31:14,331
Even though we didn't agree with it,
in public, back up your brother.
437
00:31:15,249 --> 00:31:18,252
But in private,
we had a bitter argument about that.
438
00:31:18,878 --> 00:31:22,172
"Listen, man, these guys wanna give us
a $20,000 contract."
439
00:31:22,256 --> 00:31:25,384
And in the '70s, you know,
that's a pretty big contract.
440
00:31:25,467 --> 00:31:27,845
We could've actually just went ahead
and changed the name.
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00:31:27,928 --> 00:31:30,890
I mean, how many times
we gonna get a contract like this?
442
00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:33,767
And, you know, then Dave got mad at us.
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00:31:37,021 --> 00:31:41,317
If we give them the title to our band,
444
00:31:42,067 --> 00:31:44,653
Dave said you might as well
give them everything else.
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DANWS: He always believed in the music,
and I have to admit,
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00:31:48,532 --> 00:31:51,035
a bit more than me or Bob did,
447
00:31:51,118 --> 00:31:54,622
because, you know,
we were willing to make concessions.
448
00:31:54,705 --> 00:31:57,124
Dave was absolutely not.
449
00:31:57,708 --> 00:32:02,630
And he stuck to his guns.
He stuck to his guns, man.
450
00:32:02,713 --> 00:32:05,799
Yeah, I would've changed it in a split second.
451
00:32:06,592 --> 00:32:08,302
Okay, I would have.
452
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,891
But my spirit was telling me,
"Go with your brother."
453
00:32:18,312 --> 00:32:21,440
You know, we just went
in the office one day and...
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00:32:21,482 --> 00:32:26,320
Brian told us that Don has decided
to put a release on us.
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David just stood there and calmly asked them,
he says, "Can I have the masters?"
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00:32:31,283 --> 00:32:32,868
(LAUGHS)
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00:32:33,494 --> 00:32:35,871
"Why not just give us our music
and let us walk?"
458
00:32:35,955 --> 00:32:38,207
And Brian said, "Hey, no problem."
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00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:42,002
SPEARS: And I was able to
arrange to get the masters
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turned back over to the group.
461
00:32:44,171 --> 00:32:46,632
So we took those master tapes that he gave us
462
00:32:46,674 --> 00:32:51,387
and we printed up 50045s.
463
00:32:59,353 --> 00:33:00,980
BOBBY: And the reason
we pressed those 500,
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'cause we wanted to get radio airplay.
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00:33:04,191 --> 00:33:08,362
And it was frustrating, because the rock
stations that we loved, they would play it,
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00:33:08,445 --> 00:33:10,948
but very sporadically.
467
00:33:11,198 --> 00:33:15,035
We never could get them to play it enough
to really make a difference.
468
00:33:15,202 --> 00:33:17,496
And it would happen every time
we'd tell somebody.
469
00:33:17,579 --> 00:33:19,164
They'd say,
"Well, what's the name of the band?"
470
00:33:19,248 --> 00:33:20,916
And, you know, we'd kind of...
471
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,459
(SIGHS HEAVILY)
472
00:33:22,543 --> 00:33:26,380
Do one of those and then we'd tell them
the name of the band.
473
00:33:27,548 --> 00:33:30,718
And we'd get the same old reaction
that we were expecting to get.
474
00:33:31,969 --> 00:33:33,721
You know, rejection.
475
00:33:42,896 --> 00:33:46,275
BOBBY: We ended up having to
just kind of get rid of all of our equipment,
476
00:33:46,358 --> 00:33:48,277
'cause we needed money at the time.
477
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,405
We gotta bail ourselves
out of a number of things.
478
00:33:52,114 --> 00:33:53,824
And what happened was,
479
00:33:53,907 --> 00:33:56,368
our distant relative,
his name was Donald Knight,
480
00:33:56,410 --> 00:33:59,371
he says, "Well, you know, why don't you guys
just come up to New England
481
00:33:59,413 --> 00:34:01,665
"for a couple of weeks, just clear your head?"
482
00:34:01,749 --> 00:34:02,958
We didn't even know
what he was talking about.
483
00:34:03,042 --> 00:34:04,793
We thought he was talking
about flying across the Atlantic.
484
00:34:04,877 --> 00:34:06,920
We're like, "New England?
What'd you do with the old one?"
485
00:34:07,004 --> 00:34:11,008
We took him up on that offer,
because basically there was nothing else
486
00:34:11,091 --> 00:34:12,885
left to do in Detroit.
487
00:34:35,616 --> 00:34:38,827
DANNIS: So we came up here
on a two-week vacation,
488
00:34:38,911 --> 00:34:41,872
and we just never went back.
489
00:34:44,541 --> 00:34:45,959
We found apartments,
490
00:34:46,001 --> 00:34:49,004
and then we eventually
bought even musical gear.
491
00:34:51,715 --> 00:34:53,634
DANNIS: When we first got to Burlington,
492
00:34:53,675 --> 00:34:57,137
David, he wanted to introduce
the town to the band.
493
00:34:58,889 --> 00:35:00,641
Well, David went down the street.
494
00:35:00,849 --> 00:35:02,101
On each pole,
495
00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:04,478
he put a Death poster.
496
00:35:04,937 --> 00:35:08,190
So I think he had
about 500 of them printed up.
497
00:35:08,524 --> 00:35:12,069
DANNIS: I mean, the cops must've just went
by every pole he was at
498
00:35:12,152 --> 00:35:15,280
and just grabbed them off,
'cause when the cop came to the door,
499
00:35:15,322 --> 00:35:18,826
he said, "This is a peaceful town,
500
00:35:18,909 --> 00:35:21,411
"and we don't have gangs here."
501
00:35:21,495 --> 00:35:23,997
That's when I said,
"Dave, you better come to the door, man.
502
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:26,834
"They think you're about
to start a street gang."
503
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,294
You know, he says,
"No, man, this is a musical group.
504
00:35:29,378 --> 00:35:30,587
"This is all about music."
505
00:35:30,671 --> 00:35:34,842
He says, "Well, if you wanna get anywhere
around here, you'll change that name."
506
00:35:40,055 --> 00:35:45,894
You know, after he left, I just closed the door
and I said "That's it, man. I'm just tired of it."
507
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,732
I'm tired of the rejection,
I'm tired of the snide comments.
508
00:35:50,816 --> 00:35:52,192
I'm done With it.
509
00:35:53,277 --> 00:35:57,865
BOBBY: We just understood
that we tried our best with Death.
510
00:35:57,948 --> 00:36:02,536
We hung in there from '73 to 1980,
511
00:36:02,703 --> 00:36:05,914
dealing with rejection for our name,
rejection for our music,
512
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:08,834
rejection for the fact that
we were black and playing rock 'n' roll,
513
00:36:08,917 --> 00:36:11,211
rejection for the fact
that our music was too fast,
514
00:36:11,295 --> 00:36:13,255
rejection for... So many rejections.
515
00:36:14,339 --> 00:36:18,427
DANNIS: David, he felt the rejection
as well as we did. I mean, he knew.
516
00:36:19,386 --> 00:36:22,723
I think it was David who came up
with the name 4th Movement.
517
00:36:23,390 --> 00:36:27,728
We didn't even listen to the concept
or why he came up with the name.
518
00:36:27,936 --> 00:36:31,064
It wasn't Death, so me and Bob
was just like, "Yeah, okay.
519
00:36:31,231 --> 00:36:32,274
"That's a good name."
520
00:36:32,441 --> 00:36:36,737
(SONG PLAYING)
521
00:36:47,956 --> 00:36:51,168
We just decided to take our rock 'n' roll sound
522
00:36:51,376 --> 00:36:52,961
and give it a spiritual concept.
523
00:36:53,086 --> 00:36:57,633
(SONG PLAYING)
524
00:37:07,226 --> 00:37:08,435
(LAUGHS)
525
00:37:27,454 --> 00:37:31,166
DANMS: There was a campus newspaper
and the name of the article was,
526
00:37:31,291 --> 00:37:34,211
"Rock 'n' Roll, Hold The Religion, Please."
527
00:37:34,461 --> 00:37:36,755
And they were saying
how good the music was,
528
00:37:36,797 --> 00:37:40,926
but how they didn't like the religious
aspects that went along with it.
529
00:37:45,138 --> 00:37:47,766
BOBBY: After all the rejection that
we 'd been through with Death,
530
00:37:47,975 --> 00:37:50,477
there's this big old article
in The Cynic saying,
531
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,188
"Nice music, hold the religion,"
with our picture by it.
532
00:37:54,314 --> 00:37:57,192
DAN N IS: Dave took it really personally,
533
00:37:57,276 --> 00:38:00,654
and I think he had just got fed up
with the rejection, too.
534
00:38:00,737 --> 00:38:03,991
That's when the homesick
for Detroit thing started to brewing up.
535
00:38:04,283 --> 00:38:05,701
He wanted to go back to Detroit.
536
00:38:05,867 --> 00:38:09,496
He really, literally,
wanted to bottle up everything
537
00:38:09,579 --> 00:38:13,166
and take it with him, including us.
He wanted us to fold up.
538
00:38:13,292 --> 00:38:16,670
But at the time, I mean,
I had brought my wife, Tammy.
539
00:38:19,548 --> 00:38:23,719
And she had just had a little baby,
little Bobby.
540
00:38:28,890 --> 00:38:32,561
We just didn't wanna pack up
and go back to Detroit, you know?
541
00:38:33,603 --> 00:38:36,565
So David went back to Detroit.
542
00:38:46,867 --> 00:38:52,622
Well, lam Heidi Simpson,
and David Hackney was my late husband.
543
00:38:53,332 --> 00:38:54,541
Well, let me see.
544
00:38:54,666 --> 00:38:57,085
Well, we moved from
545
00:38:58,295 --> 00:39:01,340
Vermont to Detroit in 1982.
546
00:39:03,550 --> 00:39:05,510
He wasn't working at that time. I know that.
547
00:39:05,552 --> 00:39:11,224
He was staying at home
and playing his music to himself
548
00:39:12,517 --> 00:39:14,978
and trying to figure out
what he wanted to do himself.
549
00:39:15,395 --> 00:39:20,233
He just wasn't no typical working person
that, like, out there, doing the 9:00 to 5:00.
550
00:39:21,318 --> 00:39:23,111
And he was a dreamer.
551
00:39:23,570 --> 00:39:25,572
(CLEARS THROAT) He liked, uh...
552
00:39:27,366 --> 00:39:29,743
He would sit out on the porch
and just look in the...
553
00:39:29,993 --> 00:39:32,871
In the clouds in the sky
554
00:39:33,205 --> 00:39:35,749
and make pictures out of the clouds.
555
00:39:42,172 --> 00:39:43,590
(INDISTINCT)
556
00:39:45,133 --> 00:39:49,763
BOBBY: We went for about two or three years
without a guitar player.
557
00:39:49,805 --> 00:39:53,058
Yeah, we would practice the same way
every day that we always did.
558
00:39:57,521 --> 00:40:01,900
DANNIS: 'Cause we was always on the idea
that David would come back.
559
00:40:01,942 --> 00:40:07,989
As time went on, we finally realized,
"Well, maybe Dave's not coming back."
560
00:40:08,573 --> 00:40:12,035
So me and Bob stayed here
and that's how Lambsbread was born.
561
00:40:12,619 --> 00:40:14,246
(REGGAE PLAYING)
562
00:40:26,383 --> 00:40:29,845
BOBBY: We looked at each other and said,
"Man, this is a no-brainer. "
563
00:40:30,137 --> 00:40:31,513
People love this music.
564
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,016
It's ruled by the bass and drums
565
00:40:35,225 --> 00:40:37,561
and that's all we got right now.
566
00:40:38,979 --> 00:40:42,232
So it was a no-brainer.
That's how we gravitated to reggae.
567
00:40:43,024 --> 00:40:44,651
(REGGAE PLAYING)
568
00:40:49,781 --> 00:40:52,325
DANNIS: We was able to find ourselves
a booking agent
569
00:40:52,492 --> 00:40:54,995
and get on the road as Lambsbread.
570
00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:57,372
(REGGAE PLAYING)
571
00:40:58,248 --> 00:41:00,000
We love you people!
572
00:41:02,169 --> 00:41:04,754
So somebody say
you wanna fire up some ganja!
573
00:41:07,674 --> 00:41:09,259
Fire the ganja?
574
00:41:10,886 --> 00:41:14,806
(SINGING)
575
00:41:24,107 --> 00:41:27,736
DANNIS: And we was actually glad that we
had put down the name Death
576
00:41:27,944 --> 00:41:31,656
because we thought, okay,
now that we got rid of that, you know,
577
00:41:31,740 --> 00:41:33,742
things are beginning to open up for us.
578
00:41:34,367 --> 00:41:37,704
Let them know it's true. Come on!
579
00:41:37,787 --> 00:41:40,123
DANNIS: That might've rubbed David
the wrong way,
580
00:41:40,207 --> 00:41:43,668
'cause at first he didn't really take to the news
581
00:41:43,710 --> 00:41:46,546
that me and Bob was forming a reggae band.
582
00:41:50,175 --> 00:41:54,721
It was like, "Oh, well,
those cats done abandoned rock 'n' roll."
583
00:41:54,763 --> 00:41:57,349
No, man, we were sitting back
waiting for you to come,
584
00:41:57,390 --> 00:42:00,977
but you didn't come,
so we had to busy ourselves with something.
585
00:42:01,645 --> 00:42:03,939
BOBBY: I don't think he was comfortable
with the fact that
586
00:42:04,022 --> 00:42:07,108
we traded in our rock 'n' roll shoes for reggae.
587
00:42:08,109 --> 00:42:11,071
You know, in his eyes, we were still Death.
588
00:42:25,919 --> 00:42:30,882
BOBBY JR.: When I was young, my father,
he was a reggae musician.
589
00:42:31,258 --> 00:42:32,801
As a kid, that's all I knew...
590
00:42:32,884 --> 00:42:36,805
I just knew them as reggae musicians.
And I just knew them as Lambsbread.
591
00:42:37,013 --> 00:42:40,058
We did the same thing that our mom
and dad did for us.
592
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:42,477
We just made music available to them.
593
00:42:42,561 --> 00:42:46,565
My Uncle Dannie taught me
all the basics of drumming,
594
00:42:46,648 --> 00:42:47,732
which was really awesome.
595
00:42:47,774 --> 00:42:50,402
DANNIS: And I used to bring him
behind the drum set,
596
00:42:50,485 --> 00:42:56,074
and I would put a stick in each of his hands
and kind of move his hands for him.
597
00:42:56,116 --> 00:42:58,827
And then when Bob had his other sons...
598
00:43:02,539 --> 00:43:06,251
When they saw how Bobby played the drums,
I guess, you know,
599
00:43:06,293 --> 00:43:07,961
all of them wanted to play the drums.
600
00:43:08,086 --> 00:43:11,715
Well, I was always, you know,
influenced by my Uncle Dannie and Bobby,
601
00:43:11,798 --> 00:43:14,759
'cause, you know, he always had
drums laying around the room
602
00:43:14,801 --> 00:43:16,595
and I kind of caught on to that.
603
00:43:16,636 --> 00:43:20,265
Yeah, my dad and uncle,
they always had a very strong,
604
00:43:20,307 --> 00:43:22,142
serious musical connection,
605
00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:25,812
and that was something that made
a profound impact on me.
606
00:43:25,895 --> 00:43:27,314
Bobby came to me one day and says,
607
00:43:27,397 --> 00:43:30,817
"Hey, man, you're turning
all of my sons into drummers."
608
00:43:30,942 --> 00:43:32,652
(LAUGHS) You know?
609
00:43:37,157 --> 00:43:41,995
My Uncle Dave, he was really my...
One of my favorite uncles.
610
00:43:42,287 --> 00:43:46,666
And he was just always so crazy
and so out there and so out of the box.
611
00:43:47,334 --> 00:43:50,629
JULIAN: He just had the best sense
of humor and the best laugh,
612
00:43:50,670 --> 00:43:52,339
and I used to love talking to him.
613
00:43:52,505 --> 00:43:56,635
You know? 'Cause he was just so lively
and so funny, you know?
614
00:43:56,676 --> 00:43:58,261
He was like a child.
615
00:43:59,095 --> 00:44:04,267
BOBBY: The thing that was kind of sad was
I never got to see him at his prime.
616
00:44:04,351 --> 00:44:07,395
I only... 'Cause he was...
617
00:44:07,479 --> 00:44:10,899
He really got into the bottle,
he really got into alcohol.
618
00:44:11,024 --> 00:44:15,445
So most of the time that I saw him,
he was always drunk.
619
00:44:15,528 --> 00:44:17,238
BOBBY'. David thought...
620
00:44:17,322 --> 00:44:19,532
He's one of these genius types,
man, you know?
621
00:44:19,616 --> 00:44:22,911
I mean, the demons get to you.
You know what I mean?
622
00:44:23,411 --> 00:44:24,871
The demons get to you.
623
00:44:25,872 --> 00:44:29,042
EARL JR.: And David was gonna do
what he was gonna do.
624
00:44:31,211 --> 00:44:33,171
And he was hell-bent on that.
625
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,383
And nobody was gonna mess with him.
626
00:44:37,008 --> 00:44:39,552
And the more that people tried to
627
00:44:40,637 --> 00:44:43,765
correct him, if you will, or change him,
628
00:44:44,808 --> 00:44:48,144
the worse it became, okay?
629
00:44:48,728 --> 00:44:50,438
He was a visionary.
630
00:44:50,855 --> 00:44:52,732
He had a plan,
631
00:44:52,774 --> 00:44:57,237
and that plan didn't go through
the way he wanted it to.
632
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,742
And I think part of his drinking then
was from not being able to
633
00:45:02,909 --> 00:45:06,746
fully express what he wanted to do
with his music and his art.
634
00:45:09,249 --> 00:45:12,919
This is part of the diary
that David had started,
635
00:45:13,002 --> 00:45:15,255
and he's just talking about,
636
00:45:16,673 --> 00:45:19,342
uh, one day of his life.
637
00:45:20,343 --> 00:45:22,846
"Check the dreams that are in your mind.
638
00:45:22,929 --> 00:45:26,015
"Take a flight to see
which ones are really there.
639
00:45:26,141 --> 00:45:29,519
"Open up your eyes and see
the paradise of a dream.
640
00:45:29,936 --> 00:45:32,647
"The world we know shall be no more."
641
00:45:34,691 --> 00:45:37,944
That was when David revealed that
642
00:45:38,862 --> 00:45:45,577
his music would not come forth
until after he had left this earth.
643
00:45:47,287 --> 00:45:51,750
I think he was just feeling
like he wanted to leave back then.
644
00:45:51,875 --> 00:45:54,002
He always was in another world, like,
645
00:45:54,127 --> 00:45:57,756
he just kept saying that
he didn't wanna be here anymore.
646
00:46:13,021 --> 00:46:16,024
Hendrix.
Uh, no, he was never an idol.
647
00:46:16,107 --> 00:46:18,401
He was like an influence to me.
648
00:46:19,486 --> 00:46:21,488
I don't have any idols,
649
00:46:21,571 --> 00:46:23,364
not on this earth.
650
00:46:23,448 --> 00:46:25,700
My idol is Jesus Christ.
651
00:46:25,784 --> 00:46:28,912
I follow him, until the day I die.
652
00:46:28,995 --> 00:46:34,375
And then show me how to get up
to the orchestra, you know,
653
00:46:34,459 --> 00:46:37,003
that's gonna play
in front of the throne of God.
654
00:46:37,045 --> 00:46:38,922
That's my destination.
655
00:46:40,006 --> 00:46:41,549
I wanna play
656
00:46:42,383 --> 00:46:44,385
in front of the throne
657
00:46:45,845 --> 00:46:47,472
of Almighty God.
658
00:46:56,356 --> 00:46:58,358
DANNIS: And the last time David was up here,
659
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,778
the last thing he did, he filmed my wedding.
660
00:47:03,947 --> 00:47:05,698
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
661
00:47:07,909 --> 00:47:10,703
DAVID: All right, we at the church, here.
662
00:47:10,912 --> 00:47:12,956
And this is what it looks like inside.
663
00:47:17,585 --> 00:47:19,337
There go the groom.
664
00:47:20,296 --> 00:47:22,215
(WEDDING MARCH PLAYING)
665
00:47:22,841 --> 00:47:25,134
There go the bride
666
00:47:26,469 --> 00:47:27,887
and her dad.
667
00:47:31,391 --> 00:47:32,684
(DAVID LAUGHS)
668
00:47:32,725 --> 00:47:34,269
Look at Dannie.
669
00:47:35,728 --> 00:47:37,605
DANNIS: I had a conversation with my mother.
670
00:47:37,689 --> 00:47:39,858
She said, "You know what your brother
David told me?"
671
00:47:40,441 --> 00:47:41,734
I said, "No, what'd he tell you?"
672
00:47:41,776 --> 00:47:43,903
"He said, 'When you get home,
673
00:47:45,738 --> 00:47:48,408
"'get ready to bury one of your sons."'
674
00:47:49,367 --> 00:47:51,160
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
675
00:47:57,417 --> 00:48:00,879
And we noticed that he was frail
676
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,547
and that he didn't look that good.
677
00:48:03,006 --> 00:48:04,716
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
678
00:48:05,091 --> 00:48:06,593
Hey, man. Hey, man.
679
00:48:06,676 --> 00:48:07,719
(LAUGHS)
680
00:48:09,429 --> 00:48:11,514
BOBBY: And we asked him,
you know, "ls everything okay?"
681
00:48:11,598 --> 00:48:13,683
And he never said nothing to anybody. He...
682
00:48:13,766 --> 00:48:16,394
"Yeah, everything's okay. Everything's...
I'm all right. I'm all right."
683
00:48:16,436 --> 00:48:17,687
(MUSIC PLAYING)
684
00:48:17,770 --> 00:48:20,106
I just wanted to say these words,
685
00:48:20,815 --> 00:48:23,735
'cause me and my brother Dannie
have been through heaven together,
686
00:48:23,776 --> 00:48:25,069
we've been through hell together,
687
00:48:25,111 --> 00:48:28,907
we've been down in the ditch,
we've been on the heights.
688
00:48:28,948 --> 00:48:31,326
We've got a great career as musicians,
689
00:48:31,409 --> 00:48:35,830
and we're well-respected here
in the community and we thank God for that.
690
00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:39,042
DANNIS: But before Dave left my wedding,
691
00:48:39,125 --> 00:48:41,461
he brought all the Death master tapes
692
00:48:42,128 --> 00:48:43,463
and told Bob to hold them.
693
00:48:43,504 --> 00:48:47,216
He says, "One day the world's gonna
come looking for this,
694
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:49,427
"and I know that you will keep them."
695
00:48:53,097 --> 00:48:54,223
(INAUDIBLE)
696
00:48:56,976 --> 00:48:58,645
BOBBY: And I say,
"Dave, I have enough tapes.
697
00:48:58,728 --> 00:49:00,063
"I got enough of our stuff, man."
698
00:49:00,146 --> 00:49:02,190
He says, "No."
He says, "You gotta keep these."
699
00:49:02,565 --> 00:49:04,567
He says, "The world's gonna come
looking for the Death stuff."
700
00:49:04,651 --> 00:49:07,445
And he says, "I know that you'll have it
when they come looking for it."
701
00:49:13,743 --> 00:49:17,747
That was when he told us, he says,
"Man, when y'all make it with this music,"
702
00:49:18,247 --> 00:49:20,708
he says, "I'm not gonna be with you guys."
703
00:49:27,173 --> 00:49:29,550
When I hugged David before he left,
704
00:49:29,634 --> 00:49:32,929
David let me know
that I wasn't gonna see him again.
705
00:49:47,026 --> 00:49:50,530
BOBBY: And then after he got back home,
a few months later,
706
00:49:50,613 --> 00:49:53,032
we got a call from our brother Earl.
707
00:49:55,201 --> 00:49:58,204
You know, Earl said to me...
708
00:50:01,499 --> 00:50:03,543
He said, "He's dying, Bob."
709
00:50:05,169 --> 00:50:06,462
(SOBBING)
710
00:50:10,717 --> 00:50:13,886
I remember that so well, like it was yesterday.
711
00:50:15,388 --> 00:50:16,681
I mean...
712
00:50:19,225 --> 00:50:21,728
"What do you mean David's dying?"
713
00:50:22,562 --> 00:50:26,774
David had a pretty advanced cigarette habit
714
00:50:27,442 --> 00:50:30,820
that eventually ended up
taking a toll on his life.
715
00:50:32,780 --> 00:50:36,951
He says, "Yeah, Bob," he says,
"he's got full-blown lung cancer."
716
00:50:37,744 --> 00:50:39,746
And that just floored me.
717
00:50:40,955 --> 00:50:43,791
Once he hit intensive care, man, it was...
718
00:50:44,250 --> 00:50:45,543
(EXHALES)
719
00:50:47,211 --> 00:50:48,796
It was all over.
720
00:50:52,175 --> 00:50:53,551
David died,
721
00:50:54,927 --> 00:50:55,928
uh,
722
00:50:56,596 --> 00:50:58,806
day after my wife's birthday.
723
00:51:00,516 --> 00:51:05,188
Tammy's birthday is on the 8th of October,
and I think David died on the 9th.
724
00:51:13,780 --> 00:51:16,783
I just put the tapes in a safe place.
725
00:51:18,367 --> 00:51:20,369
I didn't think about them.
726
00:51:22,205 --> 00:51:24,665
I was thinking too much about David.
727
00:51:32,090 --> 00:51:35,885
DANNIS: When I eventually went
to David's funeral in Detroit,
728
00:51:36,636 --> 00:51:38,304
I thought that,
729
00:51:38,346 --> 00:51:41,974
"I guess the Death thing
is just gone with Dave."
730
00:51:50,066 --> 00:51:54,362
EARL JR.: David's dream and the thing
that he always said was consistent
731
00:51:54,737 --> 00:51:55,780
from day one.
732
00:51:55,822 --> 00:51:59,659
And he never wavered in the story,
nor his dream.
733
00:52:00,535 --> 00:52:03,746
And so, yes, he did carry that all the way up
till the end.
734
00:52:03,830 --> 00:52:08,000
My wife used to say that Dave was Dave
when he was playing his guitar.
735
00:52:11,712 --> 00:52:16,676
If you wanted to see the real Dave,
you gotta catch him playing his guitar.
736
00:52:17,260 --> 00:52:22,390
BOBBY: You know, David continued to write
beautiful music, right on up until he died.
737
00:52:25,977 --> 00:52:27,520
This right here
738
00:52:28,187 --> 00:52:29,397
is, um,
739
00:52:30,189 --> 00:52:32,859
the last record that David made
740
00:52:33,693 --> 00:52:35,236
before he died.
741
00:52:35,695 --> 00:52:38,990
And, as you can see,
his nickname was Rough Francis.
742
00:52:39,740 --> 00:52:42,326
You know, the name of the song 'vs
I'd Be Your Doggie.
743
00:52:43,035 --> 00:52:45,746
And then it was backed by a song called
744
00:52:46,455 --> 00:52:48,249
We're Gonna Make It.
745
00:52:52,253 --> 00:52:55,464
And you know who plays on this?
David did recruit,
746
00:52:55,715 --> 00:52:59,218
uh, myself and Dannie to help him
747
00:52:59,260 --> 00:53:01,762
on the tracks on this.
748
00:53:01,846 --> 00:53:04,557
So, you know, this is kind of like
749
00:53:05,808 --> 00:53:09,395
the last time that we really got together
750
00:53:09,437 --> 00:53:11,230
and made a recording.
751
00:53:12,231 --> 00:53:17,236
(SINGING)
752
00:53:28,956 --> 00:53:34,045
"Now the way that it's been, we've seen
thick and thin, and dark days all around us."
753
00:53:34,086 --> 00:53:35,254
Um...
754
00:53:36,631 --> 00:53:39,926
"But now that it's over,
let our love grow stronger.
755
00:53:41,427 --> 00:53:43,429
"Don't you cry now,
756
00:53:44,263 --> 00:53:45,431
"we're gonna make it.
757
00:53:45,973 --> 00:53:48,726
"Don't you cry now, we're gonna make it."
758
00:53:48,768 --> 00:53:50,811
I think that says it all.
759
00:53:51,312 --> 00:53:54,607
We stuck together
through thick and thin for 22 years.
760
00:53:56,025 --> 00:53:57,276
(SOBBING)
761
00:53:57,693 --> 00:54:00,738
(SONG PLAYING)
762
00:54:30,726 --> 00:54:32,061
(CABLE CAR RUMBLING)
763
00:54:36,816 --> 00:54:41,153
Talk about record collecting, he says.
Well, you go by hunches.
764
00:54:41,237 --> 00:54:43,072
I mean, I found this in a thrift store.
765
00:54:43,155 --> 00:54:46,033
Glenn Schwartz and the All Saved Freak Band,
766
00:54:46,117 --> 00:54:47,910
with a brain on the cover.
767
00:54:47,994 --> 00:54:50,371
I thought, "How can I not take this home?"
768
00:54:50,454 --> 00:54:54,667
And here's my favorite Christian ventriloquist,
769
00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:56,836
Marcy and Little Marcy.
770
00:54:56,919 --> 00:55:00,256
Don Bolles, formerly of the Germs,
actually tracked her down
771
00:55:00,339 --> 00:55:02,758
and got one of the dolls a while back.
772
00:55:02,842 --> 00:55:06,345
Robbie The Werewolf is
sort of self-explanatory.
773
00:55:06,429 --> 00:55:09,181
This is a regular old lounge guy, but...
774
00:55:09,765 --> 00:55:12,435
(LAUGHS)
775
00:55:12,518 --> 00:55:14,520
Somebody to haunt you in your dreams.
776
00:55:15,354 --> 00:55:19,859
Anyway, so when I saw the Death record,
the single,
777
00:55:19,942 --> 00:55:23,070
Politicians In My Eyes,
pop up on this one guy's list,
778
00:55:23,154 --> 00:55:24,655
buried in everything else.
779
00:55:24,697 --> 00:55:28,034
The "Northern Soul," as they call it,
for ridiculous amounts of money.
780
00:55:28,117 --> 00:55:31,120
And there was this little record,
Politicians In My Eyes, and I thought,
781
00:55:31,203 --> 00:55:33,372
"This looks interesting."
782
00:55:38,044 --> 00:55:40,588
I was interviewing Jello Biafra
783
00:55:40,671 --> 00:55:43,049
for a book that
some friends of mine were writing
784
00:55:43,132 --> 00:55:45,551
about the history of band T-shirts.
785
00:55:45,968 --> 00:55:48,929
I know that Jello's
a really huge punk collector.
786
00:55:49,013 --> 00:55:51,140
And this collector friend of mine said,
787
00:55:51,223 --> 00:55:53,893
"Jello supposedly has a box
of the Death single."
788
00:55:56,228 --> 00:55:57,480
And I said, "What's the Death single?"
789
00:55:57,563 --> 00:56:00,941
He's like, "Oh, man, it's this all-black
punk band from Detroit
790
00:56:01,025 --> 00:56:02,777
"and it's super hard to find."
791
00:56:06,906 --> 00:56:11,994
Das was a guy that I'd seen
coming into the record store often.
792
00:56:12,078 --> 00:56:13,954
He never talked. He was always very quiet.
793
00:56:14,038 --> 00:56:15,539
But he would buy really cool records.
794
00:56:15,581 --> 00:56:18,125
"I got a record you might be interested in.
I'll just give you a copy.
795
00:56:18,209 --> 00:56:21,921
"It's friends of mine that
I knew back when I was...
796
00:56:21,962 --> 00:56:23,923
"You know, just got out of college."
797
00:56:23,964 --> 00:56:26,592
So I gave him a brand-new copy
of the Death record and he just like,
798
00:56:26,634 --> 00:56:27,635
"Where'd you get that?"
799
00:56:27,927 --> 00:56:31,639
He says, "Hey, you know,
my friends gave me these 45s,
800
00:56:31,722 --> 00:56:34,266
"and, uh, they told me to give them out
to help promote their band,
801
00:56:34,308 --> 00:56:36,268
"and I never really got them out there.
802
00:56:36,352 --> 00:56:37,728
"But, you know, it's never too late.
803
00:56:37,770 --> 00:56:40,439
"So, you know, if you could take these home
and give these a listen...
804
00:56:40,481 --> 00:56:41,941
"These guys were friends of mine."
805
00:56:43,609 --> 00:56:47,571
BOBBY". Don Schwenk, we met in 1976,
806
00:56:48,030 --> 00:56:51,450
when we were releasing those Death 45s.
807
00:56:52,118 --> 00:56:56,163
And David had commissioned Don
to do the artwork.
808
00:56:56,288 --> 00:56:58,833
And he wanted a triangle in the clouds.
809
00:56:59,750 --> 00:57:01,627
But, you know, of course,
they never had the money
810
00:57:01,669 --> 00:57:03,129
to follow through on any of the stuff,
811
00:57:03,170 --> 00:57:05,423
so, basically, I did all this artwork for them,
812
00:57:05,464 --> 00:57:08,342
but they couldn't pay me,
so they traded me records.
813
00:57:08,426 --> 00:57:09,552
That's what happened.
814
00:57:11,470 --> 00:57:16,225
So now I got these clean copies
of the Death 45 from Das.
815
00:57:17,977 --> 00:57:21,439
I left one on the counter here,
and Ben Blackwell took that.
816
00:57:22,565 --> 00:57:25,609
So this 7-inch, it's a limited press,
817
00:57:25,651 --> 00:57:30,281
it's Detroit, it's punk rock, it's hard to find
and not a lot of people know about it.
818
00:57:30,322 --> 00:57:34,410
I mean, this hits all of my checklist,
you know, this is something meant for me.
819
00:57:34,493 --> 00:57:35,661
So there it is,
820
00:57:35,744 --> 00:57:37,830
Politicians In My Eyes, which is the A-side,
821
00:57:37,872 --> 00:57:40,958
and, uh, Keep On Knocking,
which is the B-side.
822
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:45,504
Later that night, another record collector
823
00:57:46,589 --> 00:57:48,966
told me the value of the record.
824
00:57:49,008 --> 00:57:50,885
He had heard of it, and I mentioned it to him.
825
00:57:50,968 --> 00:57:53,679
And he told me that, "Oh, you know,
do you know what that thing's worth?
826
00:57:53,762 --> 00:57:55,181
"That's a really valuable record."
827
00:57:57,016 --> 00:58:00,060
So Matt Smith puts the 7-inch on eBay
828
00:58:00,144 --> 00:58:03,814
and he had it on eBay,
"Buy It Now", 800 bucks.
829
00:58:08,319 --> 00:58:13,616
How I discovered the Death album was I saw
an American unknown punk compilation,
830
00:58:13,699 --> 00:58:16,285
and Death was featured on Side B.
831
00:58:17,328 --> 00:58:20,706
I was completely blown away
with such a great song, you know?
832
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:23,584
I was asking myself,
"Why was this band not known?"
833
00:58:23,667 --> 00:58:26,128
I knew I had to find that record.
834
00:58:28,589 --> 00:58:31,133
About a month after I had heard
that compilation,
835
00:58:31,217 --> 00:58:34,094
I was eBaying and I noticed one for sale.
836
00:58:34,970 --> 00:58:36,722
And it was for $800.
837
00:58:37,598 --> 00:58:41,393
The old digs, Archer Record Pressing
in Detroit, if they knew
838
00:58:41,435 --> 00:58:44,355
that something they pressed 30 years ago...
839
00:58:45,272 --> 00:58:48,692
Gosh, 35 almost, selling for 800 bucks.
840
00:58:50,444 --> 00:58:54,114
Why would anybody pay $800
for an old Keep On Knocking?
841
00:58:54,532 --> 00:58:57,952
I mean, if I had one,
I would've gave the guy one.
842
00:59:03,207 --> 00:59:06,418
BLACKWELL: The idea of something
that's been unheard, that excited me.
843
00:59:07,044 --> 00:59:09,713
This needs to come out.
People need to hear this. This is important.
844
00:59:10,130 --> 00:59:12,341
I make some copies, I send them out
845
00:59:12,424 --> 00:59:15,302
to people that I know
and to some people I don't know.
846
00:59:15,427 --> 00:59:19,557
One of the people I made a CD-R for
was by the name of Henry Owings
847
00:59:19,598 --> 00:59:22,184
and he runs Chunklet magazine in Atlanta.
848
00:59:24,895 --> 00:59:26,605
And he posted them on Chunklet's website.
849
00:59:34,822 --> 00:59:38,617
BOBBY JR.: Julian moves out to California
and he is out there just, you know,
850
00:59:38,701 --> 00:59:41,412
traveling, hanging outwith friends and stuff.
851
00:59:41,453 --> 00:59:44,456
JULIAN: And I had a friend,
a roommate who, uh...
852
00:59:44,498 --> 00:59:47,543
She used to go to a lot of parties,
and she used to go to all these parties,
853
00:59:47,626 --> 00:59:51,255
where these DJs would spin
all these collectors' classics,
854
00:59:51,297 --> 00:59:54,550
and, you know, unheard of, just anomalies,
855
00:59:54,633 --> 00:59:57,720
and rare hidden gems and things like that.
856
00:59:57,803 --> 01:00:01,682
She came home one time, and was, like,
just ranting and raving
857
01:00:01,765 --> 01:00:04,226
about all this new music that she had heard.
858
01:00:04,310 --> 01:00:07,521
And she wouldn't stop going on
about this band Death.
859
01:00:15,112 --> 01:00:16,530
I did a little bit of research,
860
01:00:17,031 --> 01:00:20,659
and it didn't take long before I came across
this website called Chunklet
861
01:00:21,452 --> 01:00:24,830
that Ben Blackwell had posted two songs.
862
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,416
(POLITICIANS IN MY EYES PLAYING)
863
01:00:34,506 --> 01:00:36,717
I heard that song, Politicians In My Eyes,
864
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,261
and I heard my dad's voice,
865
01:00:39,345 --> 01:00:42,890
and it was unmistakable, unmistakably his.
866
01:00:43,349 --> 01:00:45,559
(some CONTINUES)
867
01:00:51,732 --> 01:00:56,403
JULIAN: And it turns out that there were these
three black brothers in Detroit in the '70s,
868
01:00:57,237 --> 01:00:58,822
by the name of Hackney.
869
01:00:58,864 --> 01:00:59,865
(GIGGLES)
870
01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:01,450
And I call up my dad.
871
01:01:02,660 --> 01:01:04,411
(PHONE RINGING)
872
01:01:05,746 --> 01:01:08,082
BOBBY: And he called me up and he says,
"Dad, do you realize
873
01:01:08,624 --> 01:01:12,211
"that they're playing your music
at underground parties here?"
874
01:01:12,503 --> 01:01:14,713
And I'm like,
"Are you talking about Lambsbread?"
875
01:01:14,838 --> 01:01:17,049
You know, I thought he was talking
about our current reggae band.
876
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,511
And he says, "No, Dad."
He says, "You were in a band in the '70s
877
01:01:20,844 --> 01:01:23,097
"from Detroit called Death."
878
01:01:23,180 --> 01:01:25,224
And then I just got quiet.
879
01:01:26,183 --> 01:01:30,229
You know, "Dad, were you in a band
in the '70s called Death?"
880
01:01:30,813 --> 01:01:33,273
He says, "Politicians In My Eyes,
Keep On Knocking?"
881
01:01:33,357 --> 01:01:35,067
And when he said that, I said, "That's us."
882
01:01:35,651 --> 01:01:37,236
I'm like, "Dad!
883
01:01:38,529 --> 01:01:39,905
(SHOUTING) "Why didn't you tell me?"
884
01:01:39,988 --> 01:01:41,031
(LAUGHS)
885
01:01:41,907 --> 01:01:43,409
And then my brother would call up me
and be like,
886
01:01:43,450 --> 01:01:44,576
"Bobby, you're not gonna believe this.
887
01:01:44,660 --> 01:01:48,205
"Like, Dad and Uncle Dannie and Uncle Dave
were in this band called Death."
888
01:01:48,247 --> 01:01:50,833
He was telling me about the music,
about how amazing it was.
889
01:01:50,916 --> 01:01:54,712
It was like the best rock 'n' roll
he's ever heard.
890
01:01:54,753 --> 01:01:58,132
And then I play the MP3
891
01:01:58,215 --> 01:01:59,758
and my jaw drops.
892
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:00,926
MAN: (ON RECORDING) Death!
893
01:02:01,009 --> 01:02:02,845
(FREAK/N OUT PLAYING)
894
01:02:09,518 --> 01:02:12,604
Like, I just couldn't believe
what I was hearing.
895
01:02:12,646 --> 01:02:15,524
Like, my eyes started to tear up,
896
01:02:15,607 --> 01:02:19,403
the hairs were standing up
on the back of my neck.
897
01:02:20,112 --> 01:02:21,572
I started shaking.
898
01:02:21,613 --> 01:02:24,491
(SONG PLAYING)
899
01:02:32,249 --> 01:02:34,960
BOBBY JR.: I just couldn't believe it
because once I heard it,
900
01:02:35,294 --> 01:02:38,630
I knew, I just knew it was them. I could feel it.
901
01:02:38,672 --> 01:02:41,633
I was like,
"This is my dad and my two uncles."
902
01:02:41,884 --> 01:02:45,095
(SONG PLAYING)
903
01:02:50,893 --> 01:02:52,644
URIAN: I was one of the first people
to hear the record.
904
01:02:53,312 --> 01:02:56,690
And I could not believe, I like...
it was unbelievable.
905
01:02:56,940 --> 01:03:00,652
(SONG PLAYING)
906
01:03:03,822 --> 01:03:06,700
JULIAN: It was raw punk,
and I did not believe it at all.
907
01:03:07,117 --> 01:03:09,077
It was really a dream come true.
908
01:03:13,707 --> 01:03:17,878
I was like, "I can't believe that
I know that I'm listening to
909
01:03:18,003 --> 01:03:21,173
"the best rock 'n' roll music I've ever heard,
910
01:03:21,215 --> 01:03:22,633
"and I'm the only person
that knows about this.
911
01:03:22,674 --> 01:03:25,177
"I need..." Like, I started calling my friends.
912
01:03:25,469 --> 01:03:29,431
Bobby calls me up and he says...
I didn't pick up, he left me a message.
913
01:03:29,515 --> 01:03:32,643
He says, "I gotta talk to you.
I got some crazy news for you."
914
01:03:32,684 --> 01:03:36,772
And he said, "Yeah, you know, I found out
that my dad was in kind of a protopunk band
915
01:03:36,855 --> 01:03:38,982
"in, like, the early, mid-'70s."
And I was like, "What?"
916
01:03:39,024 --> 01:03:42,486
Then I made him a copy and told him
to listen to it.
917
01:03:42,820 --> 01:03:45,113
And he had the same reaction I did.
918
01:03:45,239 --> 01:03:49,243
So I post on various message boards,
punk rock message boards.
919
01:03:50,494 --> 01:03:53,872
And posted a long story about everything
I knew about Death,
920
01:03:53,956 --> 01:03:57,626
put up links to the songs,
and just wanted to share this, 'cause I said,
921
01:03:57,709 --> 01:03:59,378
"Other people need to hear these songs."
922
01:03:59,711 --> 01:04:03,006
That post circulated all over the Internet.
923
01:04:05,300 --> 01:04:09,304
To the point where it got the attention
of Robert Manis, who is a record collector.
924
01:04:09,388 --> 01:04:14,309
I was still freaking out over that record,
you know, I'd listen to it all the time.
925
01:04:16,144 --> 01:04:19,231
And I was just blogging.
I typed in "Hackney Death,"
926
01:04:19,731 --> 01:04:21,400
and this blog came up.
927
01:04:23,026 --> 01:04:26,530
So I dropped everything that I was doing,
and I talked to,
928
01:04:26,572 --> 01:04:28,740
you know, a couple of the guys at Drag City.
929
01:04:32,077 --> 01:04:34,997
RIAN MURPHY: Well, we were
talking to Robert Manis,
930
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:40,085
and so Robert sent over some MP3s
of the Death single.
931
01:04:41,169 --> 01:04:45,883
It's like '70s garage
like you've never heard it before.
932
01:04:46,425 --> 01:04:51,430
Just made us really excited to wanna be
involved with the record, if we could.
933
01:04:51,763 --> 01:04:55,601
So, naturally, the thought turned to,
"Reissuing a single is cool,
934
01:04:55,642 --> 01:04:58,562
"but if there's more material
of a similar nature,
935
01:04:59,146 --> 01:05:00,689
"then you can reissue an album."
936
01:05:00,772 --> 01:05:02,482
And that seemed to be
937
01:05:02,566 --> 01:05:05,027
the next question.
ls there an album out there?
938
01:05:05,110 --> 01:05:07,195
Where are these guys? Do they still exist?
939
01:05:10,824 --> 01:05:12,618
BOBBY: Let's give thanks.
940
01:05:12,951 --> 01:05:15,203
Lord, we thank you for this food
that we are about to receive
941
01:05:15,287 --> 01:05:19,082
and we thank you for our family
and all that you do for us.
942
01:05:19,958 --> 01:05:22,002
In Jesus' name, we thank you. Amen.
943
01:05:22,753 --> 01:05:23,921
Amen.
944
01:05:23,962 --> 01:05:24,963
Amen.
945
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:30,802
All right.
946
01:05:35,140 --> 01:05:39,186
What I do for a living is
I work at St. Michael's College.
947
01:05:40,062 --> 01:05:42,689
I'm on the late-night maintenance crew.
948
01:05:52,366 --> 01:05:56,495
I've been able to give my kids the choice
of going to college, through this job.
949
01:05:56,828 --> 01:05:59,247
I've been able to buy a house.
950
01:06:00,207 --> 01:06:04,878
To me, it's a good job
that I can do while, uh...
951
01:06:04,962 --> 01:06:07,172
While I struggle as a musician.
952
01:06:09,174 --> 01:06:12,803
Getting the call from Drag City
was really exciting,
953
01:06:14,346 --> 01:06:16,765
because every musician lives for that day,
954
01:06:16,848 --> 01:06:19,309
when you get the call
from the record company.
955
01:06:20,352 --> 01:06:23,313
But after the excitement of that part wore off,
956
01:06:24,231 --> 01:06:29,069
you know, it's just bringing up
a whole Wellspring of emotion.
957
01:06:30,737 --> 01:06:35,826
After starting a new band and after just
creating a whole new life, all of a sudden,
958
01:06:35,867 --> 01:06:39,246
you know, something from your past
just pulls you back.
959
01:06:39,329 --> 01:06:41,707
And says, "Hey, what about this?"
960
01:06:51,591 --> 01:06:54,386
BOBBY: This is where we store stuff.
961
01:06:56,263 --> 01:06:59,850
For years and years,
most of the Death tapes were right here,
962
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:03,520
in this little bin here.
963
01:07:04,980 --> 01:07:09,901
This is just the way it was on that day
when Bobby called me up and said,
964
01:07:09,985 --> 01:07:13,196
"Dad, please tell me
you have those master tapes."
965
01:07:13,905 --> 01:07:15,782
And they were sitting up here,
966
01:07:15,866 --> 01:07:17,409
just like this.
967
01:07:17,701 --> 01:07:20,287
I was in such a blur about everything.
968
01:07:20,662 --> 01:07:24,416
"I can't believe that I'm up here
looking for the Death tape."
969
01:07:25,083 --> 01:07:29,713
You know, I mean,
that within itself was so surreal for me.
970
01:07:31,923 --> 01:07:33,425
This right here
971
01:07:33,467 --> 01:07:38,096
is the original finish master tape
972
01:07:39,473 --> 01:07:44,436
that was recorded
at United Sound's production studios.
973
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,105
As you can see,
974
01:07:48,023 --> 01:07:50,901
that's my brother David's writing right there.
975
01:07:51,318 --> 01:07:55,113
And that was what he wanted to call
the whole... The album, that's what he...
976
01:07:55,864 --> 01:07:57,657
"Death, For The Whole World To See."
977
01:07:58,867 --> 01:08:00,702
Course, he put his signature triangle,
978
01:08:01,995 --> 01:08:04,956
which basically represented
the whole Death concept.
979
01:08:05,916 --> 01:08:09,044
This is the tape
and this tape has been through
980
01:08:10,378 --> 01:08:11,797
quite a bit, you know?
981
01:08:11,838 --> 01:08:15,050
It's kind of, like,
older than any of my children.
982
01:08:21,473 --> 01:08:24,142
(SINGING)
983
01:08:31,191 --> 01:08:34,319
Then, before I knew it,
the album was released.
984
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:36,321
(LAUGHS)
985
01:08:36,613 --> 01:08:39,032
So this is the album, right here.
986
01:08:39,324 --> 01:08:42,994
Released on Drag City Records,
February 17th, 2009.
987
01:08:44,121 --> 01:08:46,081
After all these years...
988
01:08:46,164 --> 01:08:48,416
Three cats, three young dudes,
989
01:08:49,209 --> 01:08:51,670
who just love rock 'n' roll music.
990
01:08:52,712 --> 01:08:55,006
SPEARS'. Imagine taking 35 years?
991
01:08:55,841 --> 01:08:57,092
(LAUGHS)
992
01:08:57,884 --> 01:08:59,845
It's... It's incredible.
993
01:09:01,471 --> 01:09:03,890
I don't know of a story like that.
994
01:09:05,350 --> 01:09:07,102
I don't know of one.
995
01:09:14,901 --> 01:09:16,903
BOBBY". When the album came out,
996
01:09:16,987 --> 01:09:19,281
I felt emotional, I felt happy.
997
01:09:19,698 --> 01:09:23,702
I was happy for us, that our music
was finally getting recognized.
998
01:09:23,785 --> 01:09:26,371
I was sad, you know,
because David was not here to see it.
999
01:09:26,413 --> 01:09:30,917
You know, he wanted to see
something like that really significant happen.
1000
01:09:31,001 --> 01:09:32,711
DANNISI It's kind Of hard,
1001
01:09:32,752 --> 01:09:38,175
when you talk about this, because you kind of
hear Dave's voice in the back of your head.
1002
01:09:40,135 --> 01:09:41,219
You know, he said it.
1003
01:09:41,261 --> 01:09:44,931
He said the world's gonna come
looking for this music one day.
1004
01:09:45,015 --> 01:09:48,393
I'm still hearing in the back of my voice
all the things Dave said,
1005
01:09:48,435 --> 01:09:53,190
and they're coming true
and, you know, it just feels weird.
1006
01:09:58,778 --> 01:10:02,616
The album was released,
but since nobody really heard...
1007
01:10:02,699 --> 01:10:04,784
Not many people heard
the Death album quite yet,
1008
01:10:05,911 --> 01:10:09,998
what we decided to do, me, Julian and Urian,
1009
01:10:10,081 --> 01:10:12,209
was pay tribute to Death
1010
01:10:12,292 --> 01:10:16,379
by covering the album and, like,
playing it live.
1011
01:10:17,172 --> 01:10:18,965
(PUNK MUSIC PLAYING)
1012
01:10:25,597 --> 01:10:29,935
(SINGING)
1013
01:10:43,365 --> 01:10:45,825
JULIAN: The Death songs
needed to have an audience
1014
01:10:45,909 --> 01:10:48,703
and that's been too long, you know.
It'd been 34 years
1015
01:10:48,787 --> 01:10:51,289
since the songs had been heard by anybody.
1016
01:10:55,293 --> 01:10:56,920
BOBBY JR.: We did a lot of campaigning,
you know?
1017
01:10:56,962 --> 01:10:59,297
Like, we were out there spreading the word.
1018
01:10:59,422 --> 01:11:03,468
We were almost like musical missionaries
for Death, in a way.
1019
01:11:09,224 --> 01:11:11,017
I remember the first show that we played.
1020
01:11:11,101 --> 01:11:15,063
It was packed and people
were just really excited and happy.
1021
01:11:15,146 --> 01:11:20,485
It was like this rush
of spiritual energy running through our veins.
1022
01:11:20,944 --> 01:11:23,530
It was pretty much like speaking
to Uncle Dave again.
1023
01:11:23,613 --> 01:11:25,782
It was like saying, "Hey, what's up,
Uncle Dave? How you doing?"
1024
01:11:25,824 --> 01:11:26,992
Like, "I haven't seen you in a while."
1025
01:11:27,075 --> 01:11:29,327
When we played those songs,
that's what it felt like.
1026
01:11:29,369 --> 01:11:31,538
It felt like he was there with us again.
1027
01:11:31,621 --> 01:11:32,622
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
1028
01:11:32,664 --> 01:11:35,625
This whole set goes out to David Hackney.
1029
01:11:36,334 --> 01:11:38,795
He was a beautiful man. We miss him.
1030
01:11:40,255 --> 01:11:42,674
URIAN: We were trying to think of names
and Rough Francis came into play
1031
01:11:42,757 --> 01:11:45,510
when Bobby was thinking about the, uh...
1032
01:11:45,593 --> 01:11:48,680
That old 7-inch that my Uncle Dave
put out as Rough Francis.
1033
01:11:49,347 --> 01:11:52,684
BOBBY JR.: I was like, "Perfect.
Rough Francis. That's the name of this band."
1034
01:11:52,726 --> 01:11:55,687
'Cause it's like this band is
all happening because of Uncle Dave.
1035
01:11:55,812 --> 01:11:58,648
Like, we're channeling his music,
his energy, his art.
1036
01:11:59,024 --> 01:12:00,734
It has to be called Rough Francis.
1037
01:12:00,817 --> 01:12:05,322
So a few songs that you just heard,
they're by a band called Death.
1038
01:12:05,363 --> 01:12:06,364
(AUDIENCE CHEERING)
1039
01:12:06,448 --> 01:12:09,659
And that band is our family.
1040
01:12:10,201 --> 01:12:12,871
Our father, our uncle, and our other uncle.
1041
01:12:13,580 --> 01:12:15,749
So we're just carrying the torch.
1042
01:12:16,833 --> 01:12:19,753
And we're just very excited to be up here
playing for you right now.
1043
01:12:19,836 --> 01:12:20,837
Thank you so much.
1044
01:12:20,879 --> 01:12:22,213
(APPLAUSE)
1045
01:12:22,422 --> 01:12:24,215
(PUNK MUSIC PLAYING)
1046
01:12:27,218 --> 01:12:29,512
(SINGING)
1047
01:12:51,201 --> 01:12:52,911
BOBBY JR.: When we were
playing one of the songs,
1048
01:12:52,952 --> 01:12:55,663
I looked over
and I saw my father and my mom,
1049
01:12:55,747 --> 01:12:57,749
and they were both hugging and crying.
1050
01:13:01,086 --> 01:13:04,422
JULIAN: They were both just so moved by it,
you know?
1051
01:13:04,964 --> 01:13:06,966
And that moved me, seeing them.
1052
01:13:09,469 --> 01:13:15,058
TAMMY: Seeing my three boys on stage
performing their dad's music,
1053
01:13:15,100 --> 01:13:18,186
I was just so proud to be their mom,
1054
01:13:18,269 --> 01:13:22,107
and it was just a wonderful night,
and I will never forget it.
1055
01:13:23,608 --> 01:13:25,443
Thanks a lot. We are Rough Francis.
1056
01:13:29,489 --> 01:13:31,366
MIKE RUBIN: Rough Francis was
really impressive.
1057
01:13:31,449 --> 01:13:34,285
They were a real force on stage
1058
01:13:34,369 --> 01:13:37,956
in performing
1059
01:13:37,997 --> 01:13:41,584
their father's and uncles' music.
1060
01:13:42,877 --> 01:13:46,881
I know my piece began with Bobby
sort of beaming back at the bar.
1061
01:13:47,298 --> 01:13:49,968
You know, he's got three of his sons on stage
1062
01:13:50,051 --> 01:13:53,638
and his brother Dannie there,
and his wife Tammy's there.
1063
01:13:53,972 --> 01:13:56,182
And, I mean, it was like a family reunion.
1064
01:13:56,724 --> 01:13:59,352
But the...
You know, and the missing member is...
1065
01:13:59,436 --> 01:14:02,105
Was his brother, David,
who was then present...
1066
01:14:02,147 --> 01:14:05,859
You know, whose presence was
really felt through his music.
1067
01:14:07,652 --> 01:14:10,780
BLACKWELL: I think for me, like,
when I saw the story in The New York Times,
1068
01:14:10,822 --> 01:14:13,992
it was pretty mind-blowing
to see it on that scale.
1069
01:14:14,742 --> 01:14:17,328
I was just blown away
when that article actually came out.
1070
01:14:17,370 --> 01:14:20,248
And there was like a picture, like,
this big of Rough Francis.
1071
01:14:20,665 --> 01:14:25,420
I was like, "Oh, my goodness, we're in
The New York Times, like half the page."
1072
01:14:25,795 --> 01:14:28,131
I've never heard from so many people.
1073
01:14:28,173 --> 01:14:33,386
People's parents were saying they saw this,
and, you know, like I said, my dentist.
1074
01:14:37,015 --> 01:14:38,683
KID ROCK: I had a buddy,
Matt Sweeney, in New York City,
1075
01:14:38,725 --> 01:14:40,685
and I think he saw an article
in The Times or something.
1076
01:14:40,768 --> 01:14:42,437
So he actually sent me a disk.
1077
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:43,980
And I was checking it out,
and I was like, "Wow."
1078
01:14:44,022 --> 01:14:46,232
You know, how did I not know about this?
1079
01:14:46,316 --> 01:14:47,734
I was like, "Man, this is bad-ass."
1080
01:14:48,359 --> 01:14:50,278
And it's just one of those great music stories.
1081
01:14:50,361 --> 01:14:52,614
It's one of those things that
keeps you going to the record store,
1082
01:14:52,697 --> 01:14:54,657
hoping for another great story like that.
1083
01:14:54,699 --> 01:14:56,784
It's why you listen to music.
1084
01:14:56,868 --> 01:14:59,704
It instantly became a favorite record,
you know?
1085
01:14:59,746 --> 01:15:04,459
It was sort of... it literally popped out
of the speakers and it had an energy to it
1086
01:15:04,542 --> 01:15:07,670
and a musicianship that sort of blew my mind.
1087
01:15:08,296 --> 01:15:10,256
MICK COLLINS: When I got to hearing
Politicians In My Eyes,
1088
01:15:10,340 --> 01:15:14,385
it was like an immediate, like,
"This is one of the greatest songs
1089
01:15:14,427 --> 01:15:15,845
"I have heard in quite some time."
1090
01:15:15,887 --> 01:15:18,515
And it really was
quite an electrifying recording.
1091
01:15:18,848 --> 01:15:21,893
Ramones got all the glory
for what this is right here.
1092
01:15:21,976 --> 01:15:24,938
And this is pretty much the Ramones,
1093
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:27,607
but two years earlier.
1094
01:15:27,815 --> 01:15:32,028
There's no doubt on that record,
there's only conviction.
1095
01:15:32,111 --> 01:15:34,072
There's only full-hearted conviction.
1096
01:15:34,197 --> 01:15:36,074
And that's really what
1097
01:15:37,492 --> 01:15:39,744
makes it rock 'n' roll.
1098
01:15:40,620 --> 01:15:45,458
MICKEY LEIGH: When I heard it, I just
couldn't believe that I 'd never heard it before.
1099
01:15:45,625 --> 01:15:48,253
It was the predecessor
1100
01:15:48,294 --> 01:15:51,881
of what punk became.
1101
01:15:51,923 --> 01:15:55,218
And that was what also compelled me
1102
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,512
to really wanna search them out,
1103
01:15:57,595 --> 01:16:00,848
no matter, you know, how long it took me
1104
01:16:02,016 --> 01:16:04,018
to find somebody
1105
01:16:04,102 --> 01:16:05,728
who had a number for these guys.
1106
01:16:06,729 --> 01:16:10,942
BOBBY JR.: Joey Ramone's brother,
he ended up tracking me down,
1107
01:16:11,025 --> 01:16:14,112
and he invited Death and Rough Francis
1108
01:16:14,195 --> 01:16:17,365
to come play
Joey Ramone's Annual Birthday Bash.
1109
01:16:17,448 --> 01:16:21,703
And I'm like, "Well, Mickey, you know, Death,
they haven't really played any...
1110
01:16:21,786 --> 01:16:22,996
"They haven't played live yet.
1111
01:16:23,079 --> 01:16:25,290
"I don't even know if they would be into it."
1112
01:16:26,916 --> 01:16:28,918
And then I called my dad.
1113
01:16:29,377 --> 01:16:33,047
You know, at first, he didn't really know
if he wanted to go forth with the project,
1114
01:16:33,131 --> 01:16:38,803
just because of all the emotional ties
they have with it and, you know,
1115
01:16:38,886 --> 01:16:43,057
they always wanted to be really respectful
to my Uncle Dave.
1116
01:16:43,308 --> 01:16:46,853
Yeah, we were very reluctant,
because, you know, we didn't wanna...
1117
01:16:46,936 --> 01:16:49,814
We just didn't want to do it without David.
1118
01:16:50,148 --> 01:16:52,400
It actually took a few weeks
1119
01:16:53,610 --> 01:16:57,155
for us to really take this thing kind of serious,
1120
01:16:57,196 --> 01:17:01,659
because we had to answer the question
about who's gonna play the guitar.
1121
01:17:03,328 --> 01:17:05,872
BOBBY: David said,
"I don't leave any children in this world,
1122
01:17:05,955 --> 01:17:08,916
"you gotta remember
my songs are my children."
1123
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:14,213
You know, I'm committed to
taking care of those children.
1124
01:17:15,340 --> 01:17:18,176
And at the time,
we was working with Bobbie Duncan,
1125
01:17:18,217 --> 01:17:20,386
who we had found
1126
01:17:20,678 --> 01:17:23,056
to be a guitar player in Lambsbread.
1127
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,391
As far as the look, he fits.
1128
01:17:25,475 --> 01:17:29,020
I mean... But should we throw
this kind of a load on the dude?
1129
01:17:29,562 --> 01:17:30,855
BOBBIE DUNCAN: Bobby says, like,
"You know,
1130
01:17:30,897 --> 01:17:32,357
"Bob, something's happened," you know?
1131
01:17:33,816 --> 01:17:37,612
He was, like, you know, he didn't even
seem like he could really, uh,
1132
01:17:37,695 --> 01:17:39,030
put it all together, man, but...
1133
01:17:39,072 --> 01:17:40,948
'Cause it was just, like,
such a big thing to him.
1134
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,785
He says, "Man, I hope you wanna do it, man,"
you know, and stuff.
1135
01:17:43,993 --> 01:17:46,079
And so I listened to the CD.
1136
01:17:46,162 --> 01:17:49,707
And he said, "Not only is the album awesome,
man," he says, "but I'm gonna..."
1137
01:17:49,749 --> 01:17:52,377
He says, "I'm gonna try to do David justice.
1138
01:17:52,877 --> 01:17:56,547
"I'm gonna try to live up to the standard
that he put down on that album."
1139
01:17:56,589 --> 01:17:59,634
DANNIS: And when we got together
with Bobbie Duncan, we figured,
1140
01:17:59,717 --> 01:18:02,428
"Well, you know Keep On Knocking,
that's kind of an easy tune.
1141
01:18:02,512 --> 01:18:05,807
"We could just, you know,
throw that out there first
1142
01:18:06,224 --> 01:18:07,725
"and see what happens, you know."
1143
01:18:07,850 --> 01:18:09,435
(GUITAR PLAYING)
1144
01:18:13,773 --> 01:18:16,317
BOBBY: We started playing the music.
1145
01:18:16,693 --> 01:18:21,656
We stopped. And Bobbie, he says,
"Guys, did I do something wrong?
1146
01:18:21,739 --> 01:18:24,409
"If I did something wrong, I'm sorry."
1147
01:18:26,536 --> 01:18:29,539
And when we turned back around
to answer Bobbie,
1148
01:18:29,580 --> 01:18:33,042
he saw that we both had tears
streaming down our eyes.
1149
01:18:33,918 --> 01:18:36,462
(SOBBING) Because he was playing it.
1150
01:18:44,345 --> 01:18:46,139
It sounded like Dave.
1151
01:18:46,848 --> 01:18:49,851
And I had to get up and leave out the studio.
1152
01:18:50,184 --> 01:18:51,936
Okay, I just took a 10-minute break.
1153
01:18:52,019 --> 01:18:55,773
I just, you know, went out there
and did my crying on the side of the studio,
1154
01:18:55,815 --> 01:18:59,986
and I said, "I don't know
what's going on here, Lord." I said a prayer.
1155
01:19:00,069 --> 01:19:04,365
I said, "I don't know what's going on here,
Lord, but you gotta tell me how to walk.
1156
01:19:04,449 --> 01:19:06,075
"You gotta tell me how to walk."
1157
01:19:06,409 --> 01:19:09,287
That's when I realized
it was more than just, like, playing guitar
1158
01:19:09,328 --> 01:19:11,914
and covering songs, or doing a gig,
you know?
1159
01:19:11,956 --> 01:19:14,125
I realized this is a spiritual thing.
1160
01:19:14,167 --> 01:19:15,918
This is, you know, a deep thing.
1161
01:19:16,335 --> 01:19:18,963
You have to understand, at that session,
1162
01:19:19,005 --> 01:19:20,590
at that time...
1163
01:19:21,674 --> 01:19:23,634
That was the first time
1164
01:19:24,677 --> 01:19:26,888
that we had played that music
1165
01:19:30,641 --> 01:19:32,310
since about 1978.
1166
01:19:35,605 --> 01:19:37,732
BOBBY: Y'all ready? Here we go.
1167
01:19:38,900 --> 01:19:39,901
Death!
1168
01:19:39,984 --> 01:19:41,861
(F REANN OUT PLAYING)
1169
01:19:46,491 --> 01:19:51,287
(SINGING)
1170
01:20:06,344 --> 01:20:08,513
BOBBY: We have been working
for the past five months
1171
01:20:08,554 --> 01:20:11,724
on rehearsal production for a Death tour.
1172
01:20:13,351 --> 01:20:16,521
That's gonna be the first time, uh,
1173
01:20:16,604 --> 01:20:19,565
in almost, uh, 35 years
1174
01:20:19,649 --> 01:20:22,735
that Death has played a show.
1175
01:20:23,569 --> 01:20:25,696
So we're excited about it.
1176
01:20:30,535 --> 01:20:32,537
(MEN TALKING INDISTINCTLY)
1177
01:20:42,964 --> 01:20:44,215
Man,
1178
01:20:45,424 --> 01:20:47,885
I still feel like I'm in a dream.
1179
01:20:49,262 --> 01:20:51,013
Hey, fellas, for the whole world to see.
1180
01:20:51,889 --> 01:20:53,808
This is our first stop,
1181
01:20:53,891 --> 01:20:55,643
for the whole world.
1182
01:20:56,143 --> 01:20:58,980
This is our first stop for the whole world.
1183
01:21:00,231 --> 01:21:01,232
Love you, man.
1184
01:21:01,315 --> 01:21:02,817
Love you, too.
1185
01:21:03,484 --> 01:21:06,153
- There you go.
- And that one's for Dave.
1186
01:21:06,404 --> 01:21:07,738
I love you, man.
1187
01:21:07,822 --> 01:21:09,699
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
1188
01:21:10,241 --> 01:21:12,368
(KEEP ON KNOCKING PLPOHNG)
1189
01:22:31,822 --> 01:22:33,240
(CHEERING)
1190
01:23:17,493 --> 01:23:18,744
Good night!
1191
01:23:23,290 --> 01:23:25,167
Thank you very much.
1192
01:23:45,604 --> 01:23:49,984
DANNIS: You know, I mean, really,
we are enjoying this wonderful thing.
1193
01:23:50,067 --> 01:23:51,444
But, for us,
1194
01:23:51,819 --> 01:23:53,988
it's a beautiful thing
and we're having a lot of fun,
1195
01:23:54,071 --> 01:23:57,742
but we do carry a tremendous burden
with us, in that, um,
1196
01:23:57,783 --> 01:24:02,955
David had predicted all along that this music
would catch on throughout the world.
1197
01:24:03,039 --> 01:24:06,250
That's one of the things, I think,
that's really bittersweet with us,
1198
01:24:06,333 --> 01:24:08,836
is that he, um,
1199
01:24:08,919 --> 01:24:11,505
never got, physically, the opportunity to see
1200
01:24:12,006 --> 01:24:13,924
his prediction come true.
1201
01:24:15,301 --> 01:24:18,387
Thought nobody in the world
would hear this one.
1202
01:24:18,429 --> 01:24:22,475
David always believed that
the world would hear this music.
1203
01:24:24,852 --> 01:24:27,938
DANNB'. This whole thing is happening,
not because of my faith,
1204
01:24:27,980 --> 01:24:31,192
but all this is happening
because of Dave's faith.
1205
01:24:31,776 --> 01:24:34,111
Dave is the one who said
all this stuff was gonna happen.
1206
01:24:34,153 --> 01:24:36,322
We told him he was dreaming.
1207
01:24:37,198 --> 01:24:41,619
But now we're living it, and that's what's
making everything so strange.
1208
01:24:43,454 --> 01:24:44,663
You know?
1209
01:24:44,747 --> 01:24:46,373
It's like a movie.
1210
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,797
And we are the unwitting stars of the movie.
1211
01:24:54,924 --> 01:24:55,925
You know?
1212
01:24:57,218 --> 01:24:58,636
And Dave is the director.
1213
01:24:58,719 --> 01:24:59,762
(LAUGHS)
1214
01:24:59,804 --> 01:25:02,890
Even from his grave, he's directing the movie.
1215
01:25:05,559 --> 01:25:07,103
That's strange.
1216
01:25:42,388 --> 01:25:44,849
My mother, Majora Hackney...
1217
01:25:45,975 --> 01:25:49,103
She passed away last Tuesday.
1218
01:25:50,312 --> 01:25:53,858
And here we are taking
this journey once again.
1219
01:25:57,027 --> 01:26:00,114
It's kind of reminiscent of the journey
that I took in 2000,
1220
01:26:00,239 --> 01:26:03,951
after David had passed
and we had to go to his funeral.
1221
01:26:08,706 --> 01:26:11,834
You know, the one thing that
we're really thankful for is our mother
1222
01:26:11,876 --> 01:26:16,380
got to see the resurgence of Death
1223
01:26:16,463 --> 01:26:21,385
and that her sons really did make something
out of all that loud music
1224
01:26:21,427 --> 01:26:24,054
we was playing upstairs all the time.
1225
01:26:28,642 --> 01:26:31,187
MINISTER: We all know why we're here.
1226
01:26:32,646 --> 01:26:35,858
This is the homecoming
1227
01:26:37,067 --> 01:26:40,571
of our dear, beloved Mother Hackney.
1228
01:26:42,907 --> 01:26:45,409
DANNIS: Family is everything to us.
1229
01:26:46,619 --> 01:26:49,538
'Cause without family, we wouldn't be here.
1230
01:26:50,122 --> 01:26:51,665
Without family,
1231
01:26:52,374 --> 01:26:56,503
we wouldn't have anything that we have.
1232
01:26:57,922 --> 01:27:01,634
Me and Moms used to
kind of have a relationship
1233
01:27:01,717 --> 01:27:04,970
that was a little bit different
from the rest of the brothers.
1234
01:27:05,054 --> 01:27:08,933
See, I went to my first Motown party
with my mom.
1235
01:27:09,099 --> 01:27:10,476
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1236
01:27:10,643 --> 01:27:11,644
Okay?
1237
01:27:11,936 --> 01:27:14,146
But then again, she taught me how to pray.
1238
01:27:14,271 --> 01:27:15,356
CONGREGATION: Amen.
1239
01:27:15,522 --> 01:27:19,151
She taught me how to
ask God for what you want.
1240
01:27:20,319 --> 01:27:24,073
She taught me many things
that I will never, ever forget.
1241
01:27:25,241 --> 01:27:29,161
My mother loved all of y'all.
God bless you. Thank you for being here.
1242
01:27:29,536 --> 01:27:30,871
(APPLAUSE)
1243
01:27:40,714 --> 01:27:45,302
BOBBY: So I believe, unequivocally,
the body ceases to exist,
1244
01:27:45,344 --> 01:27:50,140
or the body drops its spirit,
and that spirit is what we really are.
1245
01:27:53,894 --> 01:27:57,022
David always said that.
He said, "This isn't the final stop. This isn't...
1246
01:27:57,106 --> 01:28:00,985
"it's not over. This is just a..."
He used to call this just a waiting room.
1247
01:28:02,319 --> 01:28:04,822
He said the world was one big waiting room.
1248
01:28:04,947 --> 01:28:08,742
Said some of us have left the waiting
room and some of us are still here.
1249
01:28:18,836 --> 01:28:21,130
That's the way he looked at it.
1250
01:28:23,007 --> 01:28:24,133
Yeah.
1251
01:28:31,932 --> 01:28:33,183
(SINGING)
1252
01:29:12,348 --> 01:29:13,849
(GUITAR SOLO)
1253
01:29:34,745 --> 01:29:36,288
(CROWD CHEERING)
1254
01:30:05,818 --> 01:30:09,613
BOBBY: Whenever I say Death,
I think about my brother David.
1255
01:30:10,489 --> 01:30:12,616
He convinced us.
1256
01:30:16,703 --> 01:30:19,331
Not only did he convince us, but he...
1257
01:30:21,208 --> 01:30:26,839
He inspired us, because we had
the chance to change the name.
1258
01:30:28,715 --> 01:30:34,888
And I think David was the prime example
1259
01:30:37,015 --> 01:30:38,809
of what the Lord said when he said,
1260
01:30:38,851 --> 01:30:43,981
"What does it profit a man to gain
the whole world and to lose his soul?"
1261
01:30:46,984 --> 01:30:51,321
And David's music was his soul,
and he never wavered on that.
1262
01:30:52,030 --> 01:30:53,824
And the chance came.
1263
01:30:55,325 --> 01:30:59,204
Change your name and I'll give you the world.
1264
01:31:02,166 --> 01:31:04,084
And David didn't waver.
1265
01:31:05,711 --> 01:31:10,883
And I'm proud of him, and I love him,
and I honor him for that.
1266
01:31:17,264 --> 01:31:19,391
(YOU'RE A PRISONER PLAYING)
1267
01:31:28,692 --> 01:31:31,403
(SINGING)
1268
01:33:44,453 --> 01:33:46,496
(YES HE'S COMING PLAYING)
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