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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,040 It's the sound of the 20th century. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,640 A music created by the poorest people in the richest nation on earth. 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,080 The blues. 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,240 We now hear it as the root note of rock and roll. 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,880 But it first appeared in the early 1900s. 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:27,000 A black pop format performed by modern men and women using the latest media. 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,240 Later generations heard the blues as authentic folk music 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,200 expressing the pain of an oppressed people. 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,600 Over the last 100 years it has crossed borders from south to north. 10 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,240 From black to white. 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,280 From weak to powerful. 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,000 You can have the blues anywhere, any time. 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:53,320 This is the story of how the blues rose up to define a nation and soundtrack a century. 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,440 And how, for generations of its performers, curators and audiences 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,360 the meaning of the blues kept on changing. 16 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,960 1940s America. 17 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:18,960 A nation is booming. 18 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,960 But for black southerners life is the same as ever. 19 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:28,000 I wonder will I ever get back home... 20 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,240 A country remains racially and economically divided. 21 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,520 A long time ago. Been a long time. 22 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,880 Most of the time in the southern state where you went to get food. 23 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:48,120 You had to go round to the one that said Coloured Only or Black Only. 24 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,680 My family didn't have nothing, I didn't have nothing. 25 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,280 Just picked cotton all day and you eat to live and live to eat. 26 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,160 I don't know how they raised us like that but that's what it was all about. 27 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,440 I thought that was a way of life. 28 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,280 One room for these people and no room for the other people. 29 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,280 One door for these people, no door. Totally segregated. 30 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,720 "Mechanical cotton pickers at work in the Mississippi fields. 31 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,040 This is the first commercial acreage of cotton produced entirely by machinery." 32 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,920 The mechanisation of the cotton farming industry 33 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:25,920 meant that vast numbers of cotton pickers began to search for new work. 34 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:30,920 So the African American south began to look north. 35 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:33,000 Chicago. 36 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,920 In the morning, eight o'clock. Chicago. 37 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,960 732 miles from here. 38 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,120 Don't you want to go... 39 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,920 It was sort of like the promised land. 40 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:58,360 Down south on the direct siege, you know what I mean? 41 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,280 And if you were picking cotton for 50 cent a day you come to Chicago, 42 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,200 they was paying 50 cent an hour. 43 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,120 The trains all led that way and that's where the money was. 44 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,320 That's why they went there. Nothing simpler than that. Economics. 45 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:22,360 Chicago was the place. There was a stock yard, steel mills, domestic work. 46 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,760 IT was a panacea for a black person. 47 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,800 Masses of migrants from the sparsely populated rural south 48 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,440 were now living freer lives in Chicago's west and south sides. 49 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,240 A black southern fiesta was brewing 50 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,800 and the soundtrack would be every black southerner's favourite party music, the blues. 51 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Here I am driving around and I see signs. 52 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,200 Elmore James. Tuesday night. 53 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,160 Or Muddy Waters this weekend. 54 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,080 Howling Wolf. I couldn't believe it. 55 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,920 I couldn't visualise that many musician. 56 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,120 That many entertainers. 57 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,240 That many juke joints. 58 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,680 That many ladies in the whole bit was in Chicago in one block. 59 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,960 God, I thought I was in heaven, man! 60 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,600 This scene wasn't about the good old days. 61 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,080 Modern black audiences required a modern black music 62 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,440 and a generation of forward-thinking blues artists were emerging, 63 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,560 eager to leave the past behind. 64 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,520 At the vanguard of this scene, 65 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,240 one record label in particular was blazing a blues trail. 66 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,520 Every good record that Mick and I heard was coming out of Chicago. 67 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,320 And it was basically coming out of Chess. 68 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,280 Chess honed us in on Chicago blues. 69 00:04:56,280 --> 00:04:59,600 And we found in there such a wealth of material. 70 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,960 You didn't really need to look much further. 71 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,160 Art was never in the picture for the artist or my family. 72 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,720 It was about making hits which made money. 73 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,560 The Chess family came from Poland. 74 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,960 My father didn't like working for people so started with a liquor store in the black neighbourhood. 75 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,560 He then opened a corner tavern with a jukebox. 76 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,960 Not only did he see them buying alcohol, he saw them putting nickels in the jukebox. 77 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,040 Three years later started Chess Records with my uncle. 1950. 78 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,360 Muddy Waters was their first real star. 79 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,600 I think I'm responsible for Chicago blues. 80 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,280 I think I'm the man who set Chicago up for the real blues. 81 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:53,840 Muddy had that voice and that very sparse way of playing things. 82 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,760 The perfectly framed voice. Even talking about it I still get the chills up the back. 83 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,480 Well, I'm gonna wake up 84 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,280 Won't be back no more 85 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,640 In 1948, Muddy Waters released I Can't Be Satisfied. 86 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:31,200 This electrified take on the down home blues sold out overnight. 87 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,560 Can't Be Satisfied. 88 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,520 This is the country coming into the city. 89 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,400 And the city sort of melding in to the country. 90 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:46,080 And I think at the same time Muddy didn't know what he was up to there. 91 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,480 Suddenly a sound can be born in the studio. 92 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:55,600 Muddy had been playing an acoustic guitar in Mississippi 93 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,560 now he's in Chicago where things are faster, more modern. 94 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,440 There's electricity! It's a whole different world. 95 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,960 So it's just a natural progression, to get an amplifier and plug in. 96 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,680 Electric guitar. 97 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,360 Muddy put a band together to convey this new electric sound. 98 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,040 Blues was entering a new era. 99 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,720 When blues musicians first began playing electric guitars or amplified instruments, 100 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,920 it was just basically louder. 101 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,480 Over a relatively short period of time they discovered electrification 102 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,440 could create its own sounds and tones that it could have more attack. 103 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,040 That could have more sustain, have intentional distortion. 104 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,240 And all of these things became part of the language of blues recording. 105 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,680 Those hot steamy clubs were the first amplified loud music. 106 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,920 Guys that got their first pay cheque on Friday, women in red silk dresses. 107 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,680 Grinding and bumping. This was an amazing time for black culture in Chicago. 108 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,600 This harder slicker urban blues was perfectly distilled 109 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,760 in the revolutionary amplified harmonica sounds 110 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,800 of a former Muddy Waters band member Little Walter. 111 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,240 Walter was a little wild. 112 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:22,880 You had to be careful. He always wants fights about something like that. 113 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,520 He was a tough guy. 114 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,600 He was a little guy, they didn't call him Little Walter for nothing, 115 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,760 but pound for pound he was one tough little dude. 116 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,560 You wouldn't want to mess with him. 117 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,840 Boom boom out go the lights 118 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,000 With his club hit Boom Boom Out Go The Lights, 119 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,600 Little Walter would usher the blues into some psychologically unsettling territory. 120 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:47,280 It's about this lady that he was in love with. 121 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,480 And she had left him for some other man, 122 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,760 but he said if you ever get her in your sight, 123 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,880 boom boom, he going to shoot her, that's what he talking about. 124 00:08:56,680 --> 00:08:58,960 Boom boom out go the lights 125 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,400 The woman might be all you had. 126 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,800 And if somebody's hitting on her, 127 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,480 he ain't gonna stand for it. 128 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,160 There'll be some cutting and shooting going on. 129 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:15,120 These bluesmen's new sound was as tough as the city that spawned it. 130 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,720 Despite being a mecca for African Americans, 131 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,280 life in Chicago could be as brutal as the south they had left behind. 132 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,560 You had bad luck 133 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,640 A long long way from home 134 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:33,760 You had bad luck 135 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,440 Honey long long way from home 136 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,320 Well now since I know you love me 137 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,800 Honey love will keep you going 138 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,680 There was all kinds of problems with drinking, with early drug use, cocaine and things. 139 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:53,640 And there was a lot of physical abuse. 140 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,320 These were people trying to survive in a white culture 141 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,240 that was not that accepting to black people. 142 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,760 This guy walked in the bar early in the morning with a shopping bag. 143 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,040 And the guy ordered two bottles of beer. 144 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,720 And the guy set them up and went back to work 145 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,600 and all of a sudden he raised his head from filling a box out. 146 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,000 The guy took the woman's head out and set it beside the other beer. 147 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,200 He had a drink. Just a woman's head. He had cut her head off at that club. 148 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,040 But it wasn't just Chicago that was modernising the blues. 149 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:47,160 280 miles east of the city a dirty new groove was brewing in Detroit. 150 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,080 John Lee made no compromises. 151 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,920 John Lee was John Lee. 152 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,840 Here come John Lee Hooker with Boogie Chillen'. I'm like saying what is this? 153 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,160 Just that rhythm. 154 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,560 HE HUMS 155 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,320 I'm like, Oh my God. 156 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,680 With Boogie Chillen', Mississippi migrant John Lee Hooker 157 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:22,400 took his primitive modern sound to the top of the black R&B charts in 1949. 158 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,040 The way he's kind of talking it too, 159 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,640 it's like this conversation. 160 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,200 I was walking down Hastings Street 161 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,720 Everybody was talking about 162 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,520 Henry's swing club 163 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,640 In Boogie Chillem' he's talking about Detroit. 164 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,640 Everybody's having a ball, drinking beer and wine. 165 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,560 I got there, I said, yes, people. 166 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:54,120 It just goes on and on. It's like a narrative of him in Detroit. 167 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,440 If you're playing with John Lee, 168 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,720 it was, OK, what key are we in, John? 169 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,880 And he'd hit the bottom string on his guitar. 170 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,320 That one. 171 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,840 It could be F sharp, it could be E flat. 172 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,960 That was it, whatever his guitar was tuned to, that was it. 173 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,480 Boom boom boom boom 174 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,640 Gonna shoot you right down 175 00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:26,680 Right off your feet 176 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,160 Take you home with me 177 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:32,840 Put you in my house 178 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,120 Boom boom boom boom 179 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:43,160 There is nothing more erotic than John Hooker and a guitar when he's playing in that groove. 180 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,480 When you talking to me 181 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,360 It's treacherous how deep that kind of groove goes. 182 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,560 There's nobody that can cut as deep. 183 00:12:53,560 --> 00:13:00,040 And he's somebody who didn't lose any of the feel of the really low down Mississippi Delta 184 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,800 when he moved to Detroit. 185 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,680 He electrified it. 186 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,920 Brilliant, wonderful way to express blues. 187 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,400 He's unlike anybody else. 188 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,560 Nobody sounds like John Lee Hooker. 189 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,440 For black audiences, the industrial northern cities 190 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,800 were now producing some of the most exciting new music in the country. 191 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,440 But back down south on the banks of the Mississippi, 192 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,920 life continued at a different pace. 193 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,040 Lay me down padded on your floor 194 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,400 Lay me down 195 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,280 Lay me padded down soft and low 196 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,520 Lay me padded on your floor 197 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,800 Memphis was a dirt roads crossroads. 198 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,200 Everything was smaller, everything was quieter. 199 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,200 In the north they make cars, here the big factories make tyres. 200 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,280 In Memphis Tennessee a pioneering southern record producer 201 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,200 by the name of Sam Phillips had grand musical designs of his own. 202 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,880 We're here in Sun recording studio. 203 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,040 The amazing thing about Sun is how small it is. 204 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,680 This little shoe box, you can't believe the sounds that came out of here. 205 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:36,880 And in large part that's because of the way Sam designed the room 206 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,480 with a ceiling that is made to still the sound. 207 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,960 So it's not flying all about the room. 208 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,480 I think the records are testament to his success. 209 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,680 A lot of people holler about I don't like no blue 210 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,320 but when you ain't got no money 211 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,800 and can't pay your house rent and can't buy you no food, 212 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,240 you damn sure got the blues. 213 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,440 In 1951 Sam Phillips cut a record 214 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:06,000 by Mississippi native Chester Arthur Burnett aka Howling Wolf. 215 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,560 His debut, How Many More Years, 216 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,920 was instantly noticed by Leonard Chess, who signed him up immediately. 217 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,880 Howling Wolf began with the great record producer, Sam Phillips. 218 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,680 He called my father and said, "I've got a great artist here." 219 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,400 My father heard it right away. 220 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,560 It was the kind of artist my father would jump at. Original, different. 221 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,080 Wrote his own material. 222 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,680 You can't belive what I say 223 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,880 And you better believe what I say 224 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,040 You wanna set up crazy 225 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,160 That you just wanna have your way 226 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,280 And you can't do that with me 227 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,520 His voice it was, wow. 228 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,120 It was so, I still feel it, from the first time I saw him. 229 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,160 Oh, stop your train darling 230 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,080 I'll cope all right 231 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,040 Don't you hear me crying 232 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,480 Oooh 233 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,480 Oooh 234 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,920 I don't think there's a person that can listen to Howling Wolf's music 235 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,560 and not be absolutely awestruck. 236 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,680 The enormity of the power of his singing style 237 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,720 and his raw and his ferocity. 238 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,520 Oh moving in 239 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:51,840 Wolf was probably the most intimidating and in a great way overwhelming 240 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,920 for a young woman or for any age. 241 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:58,080 He stands as the most powerful of all the blues singers, I think. 242 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,240 I think Sam Phillips had a commercial sensibility. 243 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,040 And I'm sure it must have dawned on him that if a white person were singing this music 244 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,880 he would get an audience for it. 245 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,920 Sam Phillips kept up a steady stream of blues releases 246 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,960 with the likes of BB King, Bobby Blue Bland and Junior Parker 247 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,680 until 1954 when he struck gold with a white boy 248 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,920 singing an Arthur Crudup blues track. 249 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,280 Well, that's all right, Mama 250 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,360 That's all right with you 251 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:32,760 That's all right, Mama 252 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,480 Just any way you do 253 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:39,280 Things changed when Elvis Presley walked in that door. 254 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,320 To me Elvis hits eternity with the first record That's All Right Mama. 255 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,680 Elvis took that black art and embraced it and sang it to a white audience. 256 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,360 And became a portal through which white people could experience black culture. 257 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,160 He snuck across an invisible racial barrier. 258 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:05,480 All these rhythms got smuggled in this very attractive young man 259 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,720 and once he unleashed that 260 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,960 there was no putting that back in the box 261 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,400 and putting the lid on it and locking it back up. 262 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,520 A tectonic shift was stirring in American pop culture. 263 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,360 Musical and racial categories were becoming redundant. 264 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:25,440 Blues and country, black and white were all morphing into a brand new sound. 265 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,840 Rock and roll. 266 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,520 So when an aspiring blues performer Chuck Berry walked into Chess Records 267 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,080 with a cover of a country song, Leonard Chess's eyes lit up. 268 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:36,880 Ida Red, Ida Red 269 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,120 I'm a plumb fool about Ida Red 270 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:42,720 My father and my uncle had that ear for something different. 271 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,240 And as soon as they heard that Ida Red song, 272 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,160 they told him change the lyric, come back. 273 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,520 Maybelline, why can't you be true 274 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,840 Oh Maybelline 275 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,040 Why can't you be true 276 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,880 I remember hearing Maybelline when it came out on the radio. 277 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,960 It struck me as like that's a hillbilly song. 278 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,200 Chuck Berry's a black guy doing a hillbilly song. 279 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,840 This is cool! 280 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:10,920 When I first heard Chuck Berry I thought he was a white person. 281 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,200 All my friends thought he was white. 282 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,160 And all the girls thought he was white too. 283 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,840 It changed everything with Chuck. We never had a record like that. 284 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,480 We never sold records to white people before. 285 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,240 This was a big change. 286 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:29,040 People were hearing Chuck Berry records and thought they were hearing a white person. 287 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,640 People were hearing Elvis Presley records and thought they were hearing a black person. 288 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,960 Oh Maybelline, why can't you be true 289 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,680 Oh Maybelline, why can't you be true 290 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,640 You started back doing the things you used to do 291 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,440 Rock and roll was musical desegregation. 292 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,120 And this new mood began to echo the racial politics of the time. 293 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,440 In 1954, the US Supreme Court 294 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,720 ruled that segregation in schools was unconstitutional. 295 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,200 The early rumblings of the civil rights movement were beginning to stir 296 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,640 and for African Americans this was a time to look toward the future. 297 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,640 This new movement would call for a new soundtrack. 298 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:34,320 Blues ended for young black people. They began to buy soul music. 299 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,800 And then Motown hit really strong. 300 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,120 It was just a cultural change, a new sound for a new generation. 301 00:20:43,360 --> 00:20:45,360 They equate blues with slavery. 302 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:48,840 They wanted to try to upgrade themselves. 303 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,640 Back in the 60s when I talked to black people, 304 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,200 especially like when I was in jail, about the blues, 305 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,080 they said don't talk that slave shit to me. 306 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,720 They was uninterested. 307 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,320 They didn't listen to what they called plantation music, stuff like that. 308 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:09,840 By the end of the 50s the hits had dried up for even the most famous blues artists. 309 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,080 I leave you honey 310 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,680 My time has just run out 311 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,840 Young black Americans had left the blues for dead. 312 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,400 I leave you running 313 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,560 My time has just run out 314 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,440 You never wanted me baby 315 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,400 I've come to find out 316 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,240 I worked with black guys in the factory 317 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,120 and we'd sit there on the break 318 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:45,800 and I'd say something like, "I went to hear Muddy Waters." 319 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,160 "Muddy Waters? What's wrong with you? That's old folks' music." 320 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,160 The blues had been largely abandoned by its own audience. 321 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,600 So when Muddy Waters turned up at the Newport Jazz Festival in 1960 322 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,480 he was yesterday's news. 323 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,080 But against all odds, in front of a largely white audience 324 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,120 his set went down a storm. 325 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,120 Got my mojo working 326 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:18,280 But it just don't work on you 327 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,680 Got my mojo working 328 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,400 But it just don't work on you 329 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,440 He plays his electric blues in front of a fully white audience. 330 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,400 He does this great performance of I Got My Mojo. 331 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,200 Got my mojo working 332 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,360 Got my mojo working 333 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,640 Got my mojo working 334 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,680 Got my mojo working 335 00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:26,880 Got my mojo working but it just don't work on you 336 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,840 All of a sudden we're getting tons of album orders from Boston. 337 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,400 And that was the big turning point. 338 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:41,000 That's when we noticed white people admiring the blues in album form. 339 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,680 Suddenly the blues looked like it might have a future after all and its future looked white. 340 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,040 At the dawn of the 60s 341 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,560 a group of white educated blues enthusiasts 342 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,000 were beginning to look back past rock and roll 343 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,880 and the electric blues that had spawned it. 344 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,840 They heard something deeper in the blues and began a quest to unearth the real thing. 345 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,760 In the footsteps of pioneering musicologist Alan Lomax, 346 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,480 and at the forefront of this new generation of blues hunters, was Sam Charters. 347 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,680 It was an incredible adventure. 348 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,440 This was one of the most exciting periods of my life. 349 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,160 I set out 1959 with my wife in the car. 350 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,760 And I just set off and went to Memphis. 351 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,040 And from that moment on one singer led me to another. 352 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,960 Sam Charters set about documenting his mission 353 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,040 to track down these obscure, long-forgotten bluesmen 354 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,320 with a book, The Country Blues, 355 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,360 as well as filming and recording his discoveries. 356 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,000 What I wanted to get was the sense of wonder I had 357 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,720 that I could knock on a door 358 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,480 and the door could open and there would be a man. 359 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,520 Wrinkled but still active and everything. 360 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,640 He'd say, "Come on in, I'll play it for you." 361 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:25,240 My feeling was get every voice I can, get every verse I can. 362 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,800 Get every word I can. 363 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,160 But this wasn't just a romantic musical quest, it was a political one too. 364 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,080 We were on the other side of a barrier. 365 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,240 The racial divide was so total. 366 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:52,280 That we had no conception of what society was on the other side. 367 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,920 And to discover the fear, the level of danger. 368 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,320 I started to go by train from New York down to Memphis. 369 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,640 The train got south of Washington 370 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,160 and it stopped in the middle of a field. 371 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:12,960 And every black person got up and walked to a car at the back. 372 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,160 1960! 373 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,440 What on earth was going on? 374 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,760 What I was attempting to do was to say, "Listen! Listen. 375 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,520 Here's something beautiful." 376 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:31,960 And if you listen to that you'll understand the human being who is singing it. 377 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:49,080 Sam Charters' book, The Country Blues, and also the LP he produced to go with it, 378 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,640 really kind of changed the world in terms of blues. 379 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:58,280 Suddenly a generation was inspired to go out and find people like Mississippi John Hurts, 380 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,800 Skip James, Sun House, Booker White. 381 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,040 Really Sam Charters started all of that. 382 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,840 What we now call the blues revival. 383 00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:12,160 Charters was not alone in his mission. 384 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,720 Other white blues enthusiasts like Dick Waterman 385 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,720 were also searching for these forgotten old southern blues musicians. 386 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:25,600 This is a clarion call for racial equality in the United Sates. 387 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,760 Especially among the young left Liberals. 388 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:36,600 This opened the door for racial equality on a musical level. 389 00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:42,280 And nothing fits that better than an old black man. 390 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:49,440 People were finding all these old artists that we assumed were only these mythical characters. 391 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,480 Coming out of an old scratchy recording. 392 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:58,080 And they were going to the rural south and finding they were perfectly alive and well 393 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,120 and still performing in their communities. 394 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:07,480 Before you knew it, Sun House was back, Skip James was back. 395 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,360 All of these people long thought to be dead 396 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:15,480 were now suddenly back and performing. 397 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,160 These elderly, often penniless bluesmen 398 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,960 who hadn't made a living out of music for nearly three decades 399 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,200 were brought north and improbably given a new lease of life. 400 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,120 And to their new white audiences 401 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:44,400 this was the unmediated sound of the blues as a pure American folk art. 402 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:50,080 In 1964 everybody was gathered for the Newport Folk Festival. 403 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,720 They just brought Skip James from the hospital. 404 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,280 And nobody knew if he could sing. 405 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:02,360 I had to simply introduce Skip James as this great singer, 406 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,360 and turn the microphone over to him. 407 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,560 This man sits down and fingers the guitar 408 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,160 and he hits the first step, he brings his head up, 409 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:23,080 and he sings, "I'd rather be the devil than to be that woman's man." 410 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,000 And there was a gasp. Wow! 411 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,680 I'd rather be the devil 412 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,480 I'd rather be the devil 413 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,960 Than be that woman's man 414 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,040 I thought I was gonna faint right there on the spot. 415 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,200 You lay down all your love 416 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,920 You know this day that I sing 417 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,280 And boy he was back! 418 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,560 Just an explosion! Who is this guy? 419 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,800 The woman that I love 420 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:16,480 It was just amazing to be a young white college age kid 421 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,640 getting to interact and learn so much 422 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,840 from these what really I would consider old masters. 423 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,800 You know he got lucky 424 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,000 He'll get her back again 425 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:38,160 These were people who had learned their music and created their music by living it. 426 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,120 It was first person music. People singing about their own lives. 427 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,080 It was people who lived very hard lives. 428 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,800 I was a comfortable middle-class kid. 429 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,280 When I come to her again 430 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,440 Backstage at the blues festivals that I got to hang out at, 431 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,800 rightfully so it was a big party, 432 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:05,840 and Dick would tell me don't let so-and-so have too much. 433 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,720 Sun House in particular was very famous. 434 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,000 If he didn't have his airplane bottle of vodka 435 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,120 sometimes he couldn't remember his lyrics. 436 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,960 You know I'm so sorry today, girl 437 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,720 Than I ever know, girl 438 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,560 He had to have some to jog his memory 439 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,800 but if he had one too many then he wouldn't remember them. 440 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,240 But when you give love 441 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,000 They never had any idea what was happening. 442 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,560 There was a strange audience of people they hadn't been allowed to look in their eyes. 443 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,280 And suddenly here was this audience. 444 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:49,800 And they had no idea what they were hearing, they just knew that the audience seemed to like it. 445 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,320 So they did it. 446 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,200 Can you imagine the culture shock? 447 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,840 You had to take your hat off, step out into the street, 448 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,840 be careful of your speech. 449 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,800 And the script flips over. 450 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,760 You're 67 years old, here are these white kids. 451 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,720 "Oh my God, you're so-and-so! I know all the lyrics!" 452 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,280 And then it's like... 453 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,360 They didn't know what it was. 454 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,880 The meaning of the blues had changed. 455 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,800 What had been a black pop phenomenon till the 60s 456 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,720 had now been reframed as a music of pain and alienation from the old Delta. 457 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,440 And these old musicians, practically unknown when first recorded, 458 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,360 were now performing songs that spoke to this new white vision. 459 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:52,440 There is a yearning on the part of wealthier, whiter middle-class audience 460 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,960 for something that is primal. 461 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,120 To do with the rhythms of life as it used to be known. 462 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,400 That we lost in the industrial revolution. 463 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,880 The Delta was a vibrant place. 464 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,120 Muddy Waters left for Chicago on the train. 465 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,360 By the time the blues hunters turned up in the early 60s, 466 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,400 those trains had stopped running a long time ago and the tracks were grown over with grass. 467 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,080 This was a world that seemed like a modernity had never come near it. 468 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,560 Understandably it was hard for anyone who went there 469 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,160 to imagine that it had ever been any other way. 470 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,760 But for this new generation of fans, one enigmatic country blues artist in particular, 471 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:55,600 would come to embody all of the darkness and gothic mystery of the Mississippi Delta. 472 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,920 There were a number of black people. especially ministers, who were very religious. 473 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:07,320 They thought if you could go to a crossroad where two dirt roads intersect, at midnight... 474 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,760 They'd sit there with two roads going on each side of you 475 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,040 and the one behind you at midnight. 476 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,920 And you play the best you can. 477 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,680 And you hear somebody coming up behind you playing guitar. 478 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,760 Don't look around, Satan will walk up behind you. 479 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,040 Tap you on the shoulder, you hand him over the guitar, 480 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,400 and once he plays that guitar you have made a deal with the devil, 481 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,440 you have sold your soul to the devil. 482 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,640 When you get up the next day, you can play anything you want on guitar. 483 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,560 That's the story I heard when I was a kid. 484 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,240 Early morning 485 00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:46,520 You knocked up on my door 486 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,360 You stand at a crossroads in the Mississippi Delta, at night. 487 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,600 And tell me you're not scared. 488 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,960 You stand in the dark, it's an isolated place. 489 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:03,120 There's panthers still in the Mississippi Delta. 490 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,600 And I said hello 491 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,960 I believe it's time to go 492 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,240 Robert Johnson. The bluesman who sold his soul to the devil at the crossroads. 493 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,440 This myth grew to fill a void of historical fact. 494 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,760 He was the ultimate blues mystery 495 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,240 and became the most seductive blues rediscovery of the 60s. 496 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,040 Robert Johnson had always been kind of just this mystery. 497 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,600 We knew nothing about him. 498 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,320 Except we had heard he was dead. 499 00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:40,160 But one blues hunter would make a breakthrough. 500 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,280 People love myths or they love stories. 501 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,040 Johnson's the perfect man. Nothing was known about him. 502 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,240 I first started asking about Robert Johnson around 1964. 503 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:04,840 But there was very little information on Johnson. 504 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:10,520 And in 1965 I went to the Department of Vital Statistics in Mississippi. 505 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,560 To search for a death certificate on Robert Johnson. 506 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,720 And this is the death certificate I received on the 11th day of January 1968. 507 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:23,960 The man is dead in August 1938. At age 27. 508 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:30,480 But the death certificate caused a lot of controversy because no one knew where he died. 509 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,320 Some say he died in a bar room brawl, 510 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,280 others that he was the victim of syphilis 511 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,240 or maybe he was poisoned and died howling like a dog. 512 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,480 Even until recently the whereabouts of his grave was much disputed. 513 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,040 Here we are at the grave site 514 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,040 of the legendary Robert Johnson in Greenwood, Mississippi. 515 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,680 This is the place where he took sick and died in 1938. 516 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,920 For a long time people weren't even sure where he was buried. 517 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,960 Up until just a few years ago 518 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,920 there were three different places that would tell you they had the remains of Robert Johnson. 519 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,760 But now this has become the official location 520 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,840 of the body of Robert Johnson. 521 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,760 I think the reason why Johnson has become so interesting and so famous to us 522 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,560 is because we don't know a lot about him. 523 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,040 He's really kind of a phantom. 524 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:29,720 All this began in 1961 when Robert Johnson, King Of The Delta Blues Singers, was released. 525 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,560 While the search for forgotten bluesmen continued, 526 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,120 a dead artist virtually unknown in his own lifetime 527 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,520 was suddenly being hailed as the greatest blues artist ever. 528 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,320 The record cover, the picture, was the black poet. 529 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:50,000 The idea of this lone figure in his own world. 530 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,000 He's hunched over his guitar, he isn't looking out at the audience. 531 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,680 He's looking into his own soul. 532 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,120 Robert has become that portal figure 533 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,920 for a whole white world to enter into the black experience. 534 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:13,280 If you were someone like the Rolling Stones and you had already heard Muddy Waters, 535 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,200 this just sounded like where all of that came from. 536 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,760 But with a complexity in the guitar work that you'd never heard. 537 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,960 It felt like the roots of everything. 538 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,320 You better come home 539 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,560 The structure of the songs are so unique. 540 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:36,960 Come Out In My Kitchen. These are not the everyday blues. 541 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:40,160 He raised the bar. 542 00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:03,520 There's visuals in that music. 543 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,080 Can't you hear that wind howl? 544 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,760 HE HUMS 545 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,760 You can feel it and you can see it. 546 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,000 It's so beautiful. 547 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,880 Johnson somehow crystallised the whole point of it. 548 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,760 What could be done. Everybody still reaching for that bar. 549 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,520 He was the perfect artist. 550 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,840 When rock came along and you wanted to understand where it came from. 551 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,600 The rediscovery of Delta blues artists like Robert Johnson 552 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,320 may have been making waves among the folk festival and coffee house crowds. 553 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,320 But the sound of young black America was now Motown 554 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,800 and for mainstream audiences, the blues remained a dead music. 555 00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:07,400 So when a group of scruffy London blues fanatics arrived in the land of their idols in 1964, 556 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,560 they were confused by what they found. 557 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,640 I'm the little red rooster 558 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:18,720 By the time we got to America we were well aware that these guys were not in the mainstream. 559 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,920 We couldn't understand why 560 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,240 especially when we got into an American cars, 561 00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:28,960 and they got 15 channels, and there's always a blues channel, 562 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,880 a black channel playing this stuff. 563 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,680 You know, "Why do you want to listen to this?" 564 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:40,000 You know, they just didn't go down that end of the dial. 565 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,960 Mick and I and the boys would walk in in '64 to juke joints in Mississippi. 566 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,560 And be considered a novelty of course! 567 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,040 But at the same time a pleasant novelty. 568 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,920 And plied with drinks and other stuff. 569 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,680 If we went into a white club we'd be treated like that because of the hair. 570 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:07,680 I remember driving Brian Jones back to their hotel and people screaming "Homo! Homo!" 571 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,720 cos he had shoulder-length hair! 572 00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:11,880 Are you guys wearing wigs? 573 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,640 As part of their blues pilgrimage 574 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,480 the Rolling Stones recorded at Chess, 575 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,120 where they came face to face with their idols. 576 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,800 I just wanna make love to you 577 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,840 I'm only 21. I'd died and gone to heaven. 578 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,800 Everybody was very supportive 579 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,800 cos you feel you're walking into the lion's den at that age. 580 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:46,000 And to come out with everybody's goodwill is yeah, OK. 581 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,120 Now we can talk! 582 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,840 They were drinking hard liquor out of the bottle. Jack Daniels out of the bottle, you know. 583 00:41:54,320 --> 00:42:00,360 And the black artists would pour it in a water glass and sip it, it was a different style. 584 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,040 I know a lot more about the blues by meeting the people 585 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,920 than you would by listening. 586 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,640 I slept at Muddy's house. 587 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,600 I woke up at Howling Wolf's but that's another story! 588 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,800 When the Stones broke big a year later, America was suddenly all ears. 589 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,960 We just thought more people should hear the blues. 590 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:30,480 And then as we got popular we found we were more in a position to do that. 591 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,200 We were missionaries in a way! 592 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,960 An invitation to perform on a top teenage TV show called Shindig 593 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,720 presented them with an irresistible opportunity. 594 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,080 I was at the 1965 Shindig taping. 595 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:54,440 Where the Rolling Stones would not be on Shindig unless Howling Wolf could be on. 596 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,720 ABC thought it was an animal act! 597 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,600 A howling wolf? Sure! Whatever you like. 598 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,000 Bring a howling wolf. 599 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,600 They had no idea who Howling Wolf was. 600 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,040 And probably wished they didn't. 601 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:12,840 These are tight white cats from LA and it's the early 60s. 602 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,600 It's about time you shut up and we had Howling Wolf on stage. 603 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,680 How many more years 604 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,880 Since I have let you go feel right 605 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,440 How many more years 606 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,080 The audience loved Howling Wolf. 607 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,040 And they were like, he overwhelmed them. 608 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:46,680 The Stones had managed to smuggle a 54-year-old, six foot three inch, 21 stone 609 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,200 forgotten Mississippi bluesman onto primetime television. 610 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,880 Mainstream America sat up and watched the Wolf smash through a racial barrier. 611 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,680 From that a lot of guys who felt that their music was being drifted off 612 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,280 because of Motown and R&B 613 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,400 found a whole new audience. 614 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:17,240 They went and told the world who these great people was. 615 00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:21,160 And then that's why white America was saying let me go see. 616 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,320 The Rolling Stones were the first pop stars to insist they were playing the blues. 617 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,360 With them a new wave of American white kids 618 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,880 picked up electric guitars and started playing blues licks. 619 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,400 I didn't know any white people who listened to blues music before the English bands come over. 620 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,160 All of a sudden everybody's name was a blues band. 621 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,560 All of a sudden it was like Santander Blues Band. 622 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,760 Or Steve Miller Blues Band. 623 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,240 But for those who still saw blues as an acoustic folk art 624 00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:55,800 these electric blues bands were imposters. 625 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,160 So when pioneering musicologist Alan Lomax 626 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,960 introduced the Paul Butterfield Blues Band at Newport in 1965 627 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,360 these two opposing visions of the blues would collide. 628 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,400 I think amongst the white folk fans 629 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,360 there was the feeling that if you didn't have an acoustic guitar, 630 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,040 if you had an electric guitar, 631 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,760 you weren't the real thing. 632 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,080 In 1965 we went to Newport. 633 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,760 It was the Paul Butterfield Blues Band. 634 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,120 Alan Lomax, who was the curator of the workshop, 635 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,840 just took great offence at the fact that these guys were plugged in and playing loud. 636 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,480 He didn't like the idea of this group at all. 637 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,680 They were electric. 638 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:42,360 Lomax said you've heard the real thing, you've heard blues musicians from the south play this music. 639 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,880 Now we're gonna hear some kids from Chicago 640 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,400 with the help of all these amplifiers up here 641 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,800 try and play the blues. 642 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,440 They just tore it up. They were bad to the bone. 643 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,720 And there was me standing on the sidelines 644 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:28,400 just almost jumping out of my skin with my friends 645 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,320 because we were so knocked out by the sound they were putting out. 646 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,560 Albert Grossman, who was managing the Paul Butterfield Band, 647 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,760 said, "That was a real chicken shit introduction." 648 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,880 And the next thing they're throwing punches. 649 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:58,160 We looked over and these two big old guys are engaged in fisticuffs! 650 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,640 And rolling around in the dirt there on the side of the stage. 651 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,600 That was an interesting indication of how the old guard 652 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:14,600 decided they were going to be the people who defined what the blues were. 653 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,920 The blues represented a certain kind of idealised Americana. 654 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,280 It represented a kind of communitarian vision. 655 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,520 Putting electric guitar on it was like sticking a dollar sign in front of it. 656 00:47:39,240 --> 00:47:45,480 He was upset because these people with their decades and centuries honed style of making music 657 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,600 and singing were just kind of being swept aside. 658 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,520 What fascinated Alan was where the music came from. 659 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,560 I don't like the word pure but I like the word basic. 660 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,080 That they were finding all the original forms of the blues. 661 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,600 But then I'm not sure he liked what happened to it. 662 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,000 Because it did partly become commercialised. 663 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,680 You can understand, he's from his era. 664 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,400 He's been honking around these penitentiaries 665 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,720 looking for the original thing. 666 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,920 Looking for fool's gold. 667 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,840 Preserving this vision of an authentic acoustic blues 668 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,280 was rapidly becoming an irrelevance. 669 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,240 A new generation of white American blues rock fans 670 00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:43,840 were rediscovering the electric blues greats. 671 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,880 One bluesman who had no nostalgia for acoustic guitars 672 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,000 and depression-era Mississippi was BB King. 673 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,720 His urbane uptown blues sound instantly struck a chord with this new breed of fan. 674 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:16,000 In my opinion BB King is the greatest blues singer, guitar player, that ever recorded. 675 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,480 And his longevity speaks for that. 676 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,560 He had class and dignity and that's what white people wanted to see. 677 00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:26,720 You never said, BB King, see a funky show. 678 00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:28,760 You'll see something outrageous. 679 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,480 You went to hear very finely honed, beautifully played music. 680 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:48,240 He just exudes this quality of, like, royalty. 681 00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:54,560 I think he's raised blues to be something that's full of pride. 682 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,600 While BB King's refined brand of blues was filling up auditoriums across the States, 683 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,680 the influence of the blues was beginning to underpin new musical directions. 684 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:29,520 As the 60s became the 70s, its licks, attitude and mythology 685 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,840 evolved into the foundations of rock culture. 686 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,320 Songs well over three decades old, 687 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,960 by the likes of Robert Johnson and Skip James, 688 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,800 were being reimagined as a brand new sound. 689 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,160 Blues rock became hard rock. 690 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,680 Hard rock became heavy metal. 691 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,920 What was left of the blues seemed lost in cliche and excess. 692 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,280 But by the dawn of the 80s a new wave of musicians and audiences 693 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,840 began to cast their eyes back past the bloated beast of rock, 694 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,560 and in doing so kick started another blues revival. 695 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,240 The success of new artists like Stevie Ray Vaughan and Robert Cray 696 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:22,080 proved beyond question that the blues was a music with vast commercial potential. 697 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,080 Now even yuppies liked the blues. 698 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,720 There was a burst of interest in blues in the 80s. 699 00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:38,160 Especially led by Stevie Ray Vaughan. 700 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:43,160 Stevie was at the forefront of the 80s and early 90s blues revival. 701 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,160 There was a resurgence of the blues 702 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,640 and in R&B the music was a little more simple, more accessible. 703 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,840 I think that the public heard it as something new. 704 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,560 From out of the shadows and into this bright new musical landscape 705 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,440 emerged a familiar figure with an unfamiliar sound. 706 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,480 It turned a lot of people on to blues who ordinarily would never have listened to blues. 707 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,400 Or know anything about it. 708 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,360 Santander wanted to cut John Lee Hooker with The Healer. 709 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,320 And that was a big thing. I was so proud of him. 710 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:28,000 Because you couldn't forget him from Boogie Chillem' but he was kind of being forgotten. 711 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:37,160 The Healer made 72-year-old John Lee Hooker into a global megastar. 712 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,000 It was great for John. 713 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:41,840 It was great for blues. 714 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:47,160 Blues a healer all over the world 715 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,640 Blues a healer 716 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,760 He appreciated the success. 717 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,520 He dressed nice, people knew him. 718 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:05,080 As a man coming from Mississippi and moving up and being successful, 719 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,040 I think that was it. 720 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,120 That was as good as it gets. 721 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,520 When I saw who was going to collaborate on that record I couldn't wait to be part of it. 722 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,320 And luckily I'm In The Mood hadn't been chosen and that was my favourite song. 723 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:25,840 I'm in the mood 724 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,120 Oh 725 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,760 He and I start going together without any rehearsal. 726 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,320 It was a moment that will remain a highlight for me. 727 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,840 Now now no now now 728 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,640 I try but you love nobody 729 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,960 - I hear you call - Nobody nobody 730 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,880 It felt exactly like it sounds. 731 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,960 And it just went on and on and the end of it 732 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,440 I literally asked for a towel, that's how deep it was. 733 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,240 I wanna thank you, baby. 734 00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:09,760 The revival of John Lee Hooker in the early 90s 735 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,560 pointed to a wider trend in American culture. 736 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,880 The blues was now firmly embedded at the heart of the great American narrative, 737 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,720 and big brands were quick to take note. 738 00:54:19,720 --> 00:54:25,840 I think advertisers use the blues because it speaks to rough authenticity. 739 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,560 To being genuine. 740 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,480 To being unvarnished. 741 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,720 These are jeans worn by working people who are out there in the real world, 742 00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:36,000 Not slick. It's anti-slick music. 743 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,600 There was a big campaign going on at that time. 744 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:46,960 It was hip to be blue! 745 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,320 Blues was now being used to sell everything from jeans to beer. 746 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,560 Now of course blues is being used in Viagara commercials. 747 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,520 Why would you let something like erectile dysfunction get in your way? 748 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,240 Isn't it time you talked to your doctor about Viagara? 749 00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:07,880 I'm very scared this is the new blues demographic! 750 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,600 But if I eventually need an ED mediation, 751 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,560 I'm using the one that uses the blues in commercials! 752 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,880 Seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. 753 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:27,520 In 2012, President Obama hosted an evening of blues at the White House. 754 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:33,280 After 100 years, a music created by a generation of Americans who had nothing 755 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,160 was being used as the ultimate emblem of the American dream. 756 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:42,440 It's a once in a lifetime and I still pinch myself now. 757 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,440 And say is that really you? 758 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,400 That's a long way from picking cotton on a farm! 759 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,040 Picking the guitar at the White House. 760 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:58,960 Then he come up and made a speech after we finished playing. 761 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:04,520 I said, "Mr President, I understand you can sing Sweet Home Chicago." 762 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,480 Come on, Mr President, sing it! 763 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:12,000 Come home, baby don't you wanna go 764 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:19,240 Sweet Home Chicago, Robert Johnson's 1936 anthem of black migration from the despair of the south, 765 00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:21,960 being sung by the most powerful man in the world. 766 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,120 The blues narrative has seemingly reached its symbolic peak. 767 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,720 Sweet home Chicago 768 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:35,040 I was overjoyed. I cried after we finished the show. 769 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,040 Because that's a dream come true. 770 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,880 I never thought something like that would happen 771 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,200 to a blues guy to be up in the White House 772 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,560 playing for the president of the United States. 773 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,880 Over the last 100 years, 774 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:12,400 the blues has transcended racial, musical and national boundaries. 775 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:18,280 Its icons, songs and stories now form part of the DNA of a nation. 776 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,480 And for what remains the poorest region in the country, 777 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:29,000 the blues is beginning to provide a much-needed economic boost. 778 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,080 People of the 30s, 40, 50s, 60s in the south 779 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:37,680 would be amazed that a large part of the tourism economy here in Mississippi 780 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,320 is about blues history. 781 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:46,240 To see modern day south embracing black culture, I think that's a remarkable change. 782 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,440 Whatever you're listening to now, there's not one thing you're listening to 783 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,480 that isn't in some way influenced by the blues. 784 00:57:55,480 --> 00:58:03,040 That's I think why they're talking about it is that it's very simple in concept 785 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,640 but to deliver it is another thing. 786 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,520 All over the world wherever I travel, there's people playing blues. 787 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:16,080 Even if they don't understand the words their heart knows that feeling. 788 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,200 And they want more, they gotta have more. 789 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,960 That's the beauty of the blues. 790 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,040 You can't deny it, it ain't going away. 791 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,360 Subtitles by Red Bee Media69745

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