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This programme contains strong language and scenes of a sexual nature from the start.

There's 1,000 ways to make money on the internet

and webcams mean anyone can be a porn star.

Connecting your camera.

You ready for your show?

Now more men than women are camming.

Welcome to my fetish casino.

Do you want to roll my dice?

Who's going to be brave enough to go first, then?

It's believed that more than 100,000 British men

have performed online for cash.

Yeah, sounds good.

Yeah, I'll lick my armpits for that.

He's earning some money, he's building his confidence...

I like your spirit!

..so, why not?

If you're up for it,

getting your kit off can be a quick way to make money...

Then take your socks off as well!

I can make 10, 15, 20 times more money

for 20 times less work.

..but just how far are Britain's webcam boys prepared to go?

I don't find anything weird now.

And what happens when online sex

moves into the real world?

I was looking out of the window

and then I turned round, just to say something,

and he was completely naked and I was like, "Oh!"

This is the world of the Webcam Boys.

Everyone enjoys having a wank, so getting paid for it's even better.

No, she's not like that.

Martyn's my best mate.

Known each other for ages,

we get on really well -

he's just a good laugh.

Will is self-centred,

socially retarded...

and a businessman.

Do you know who we are?

- Er, no. Who are you?
- No?

Will and Martyn are best friends.

They've been camming since they were 16.

We was just messing about online

trying to find something to make us some money

and Will said to me,

"Oh, someone's offered me 100 quid to have a wank online,"

so he did and I was like,

"Shit, hang on a minute, what's this website?

"Let's get on it."

So, then we just started doing it and then people started saying,

"Oh, there's two straight lads.

"Can you do stuff like in the same room together?"

And it just grew from that.

The customer is in control of your actions,

so if they say to you, "strip",

"touch your toes", "do star jumps", "work out" -

sometimes I do a work out on camera and get paid for it.

That's it.

You could have one really good day,

you could have 600, 700, 800 quid come in,

out of the blue, maybe a bit more.

Depends on how much you can sell.

It depends on how much that person is willing to spend on you.

The boys live with their parents

and the cash they earn from camming

means they've never had to hold down a proper job.

Now they're planning to take their camming to a whole new level.

So, my business idea is webcam modelling.

It's going to go into lingerie and sex toys in a couple of years

into the business,

then it'll branch out into adult event nights as well -

so like Dreamboys and all that sort of stuff -

and basically make it into an all-round business.

MUSIC: Jive Talkin' by the Bee Gees

# It's just your jive talkin'

# You're telling me lies, yeah

# Jive talkin'... #

The plan is to recruit lots of performers for their website

and take a cut of the cash they make.

We're just covering what Ooh La La's all about

to make sure every single model knows that we're top

and not just some unprofessional website, basically.

They've got a couple of their mates to join the company.

This week, the plan is just to get the name out there -

so, Facebook, Twitter, anything, basically.

Just tell everyone about the name, so get the name out there.

We've got a photoshoot on Thursday on the beach,

unless it fucking rains.

- Got the blog.
- BlogSpot.

You've got to work out your direct marketing routes

to be able to find out your indirects.

Yeah, we'll just shove it on everywhere.

I've been banging a couple of birds recently and they've...

I've been straight up front with them with what I do

and I was like, "Do you reckon you could do that?"

and they're like "I reckon I could."

When you do sell it to them, you've got to say,

"It's not just stripping on webcam. Sometimes you can be fully clothed

"and just show your feet and get paid like £30-40."

There's nothing...

So many customers...

I don't find anything weird now.

The customer's thinking to themselves,

"The model's going to find this weird."

"Look, nothing's weird. Tell me what you want and I'll do it."

It's like that video I made, wasn't it?

The whole idea of the video was,

this bloke just wanted to see me rub my feet,

put my cock on my feet like...

Just feet, feet, feet.

It just shows how diverse this industry is.

And we've got this one client, big client,

who spends a lot of money on burps!

He loves watching us burp.

You don't really have to get naked.

He said, "You can get naked if you like,

"but I just want to see you be a chav and burp for me."

Drink some beer, drink something fizzy and he just loves it.

MUSIC: Everything In Its Right Place by Radiohead

Over a million users log onto cam sites in Britain each month...

and this online world caters for every fetish.

One of the most popular is muscle worship.

You know, with muscle worship,

even though that's all you're doing is posing,

they're worshipping you.

It gives you another avenue to sell yourself.

Instead of just telling them about yourself,

that's picture evidence of who you are.

So, by coming here and working out,

you're boosting what you have to offer.

Last year, 22-year-old Pete

lost his job as a builder.

He's new to the camming business.

The majority of British cammers

are men performing for other men,

and Pete wasn't prepared for all this male attention.

They view you as someone more powerful than them.

They want to know specific things like, "How much do you weigh?"

"How tall are you?"

They just like to see you stand up as well. They like to...

"Oh, can you stand next to something so I can gauge your height?

They're not really even fussed who you are as a person,

they just want to know about your body.

"How long have you been working out?"

"Do you do wrestling?"

That seems to be one I get ALL the time, "Do you do wrestling?"

"Could you lift me up?"

"Would you lift me up"

"Would you arm wrestle me?"

When it's like that, I don't even have to type or speak to them -

just stand and pose, and flex, and they're like

"Oh, God, that's amazing.

"You're so strong, there's no way I could ever fight you."

"If you were to hold me down on the bed, there's nothing I could do."

You don't actually even have to meet people,

it can be all over webcam, which is... That's easy, you see.

All that's here is a computer and a webcam.

It doesn't really bother me.

It's not something I think,

"Oh, I think this makes me gay," you know?

I dunno, maybe some people say, "Oh, yeah, it does,"

but I don't think it does, really.

I don't know, I suppose...

I don't know. Define gay.

Does doing something make you gay?

Or are you gay because that's what you refer to yourself as?

I don't view myself any different for doing it.

At the end of the day, this is a way I can find

to make a lot more money

than I would doing any other job

that I could go in to, to do, really.

I could make 10, 15, 20 times more money,

and probably for 20 times less work.

So, in that sense, it could be a money earner...

- COMPUTER BEEPS REPEATEDLY
- ..definitely.

From the start, Pete's girlfriend Lily has been cool with his camming.

Whoa, whoa!

I wasn't thinking, "Oh, my God, what are you doing?"

I just thought it was funny.

Like, I was just a bit giggly about it all, really...

..so that's really it.

I didn't think, "Oh, don't do that," or,

"You shouldn't be doing that sort of thing."

There's nothing sexual on his side at all,

it's purely about the business side of it.

It's not like in front of a certain person,

it's just in front of a camera.

Lily and Pete met on an internet dating site

and money's always been tight.

OK?

When I first met Pete, she was only two weeks old.

I'd been on my own since I was about eight weeks pregnant,

so I'd gone through all that

and she wasn't very well either,

so it was a really big deal.

Do you want to go on the swing quickly?

I thought to myself, "Yeah, OK, we could meet,"

but then he could be like, "No," you know, "This just isn't for me,"

but it was the complete opposite.

He's seen every little milestone that she's been through.

When she took her first steps, her first word,

and coincidentally her first word was "dad".

He never wants her to go without, not that she would,

but he wants to be like, when she says, "I want this,"

she can have it.

Everything he does, he just wants to do it

to make life better for his family.

INTERVIEWER: You really love Pete, don't you?

- Yeah.
- SHE LAUGHS

FIREWORKS BANG AND SPLUTTER

Are you excited about the fireworks?

Yeah!

Whoohoo!

Lily's mum has also got used to the idea

of having a cammer in the family.

There isn't anything out there for young people.

It's absolutely diabolical.

When I was their age,

I could walk out of one job and walk into another,

but you can't do that now.

The internet's easy money, isn't it?

Anybody can go on the internet and do what Peter does

and make money.

Not that it would appeal to me, but...

it's everybody's own choice.

Do you think it's a good thing?

- Do you think he's shown some initiative?
- It depends.

It depends on...

I don't know, really, but as long as it's not hurting anybody...

..and it's all above board,

and there's no sleaziness in it, then that's fine.

FIREWORKS SPLUTTER

Wow!

'I'll support him all the way, as long as he doesn't cross the line

'with Lily, then that'll be fine.'

INTERVIEWER: What do you mean by cross the line?

Well...

as long as he doesn't hurt her in any way,

then that'll be fine.

FIREWORKS SPLUTTER AND WHOOSH

For some, camming from home isn't an option.

It's Wednesday night.

Will and Martyn are getting ready to work.

They like a bit of a tan line.

That is...

You love that, don't you?

Nice red arse!

Burnt me arse on that.

So if any of you like the shaved one, we'll show you to compare...

The boys have got a reputation as a double act

that aims to please...

We're just not getting hard right now, cos we're just teasing you.

..whatever their clients might ask for.

Oops!

Oh, boy.

It's after midnight.

After two hours of hard graft,

the boys' "day at the office"

is getting into full swing.

Fucking hell, man.

INTERVIEWER: Will, tell my why you're in the bath?

I'm having a piss.

There's people that have got a piss fetish you know,

I'm pissing in the bath, basically.

I bet you all love it, you slaves, don't you?

Show us your tax money.

You're slaves.

Do you think you two have got closer since you started doing this?

I wouldn't say we're any closer than we were to start with...

- I don't think.
- ..it's just that we...

- We just know more about each other now.
- Yeah, that's it, yeah.

We just know more.

We both feel comfortable doing this sort of stuff anyway so...

I don't think it's any different than how we started.

INTERVIEWER: Why did you both get in the bath together?

Cos that's what the customers want, you know? We're not...

We'll never do any touching

but we'll go to lengths

where it's close, but not quite there.

Why do you think you're so comfortable doing this?

Cos lots of people wouldn't feel comfortable

- masturbating in a room with their best friend.
- Um...

I think we just think of the money and get on with it and,

at the end of the day, we're performers, we're actors, you know?

Like, we'll perform for someone,

we put ourselves in someone else's shoes and we just do it.

People like that cos it shows you're confident, you just get on with it.

Have a piss, wank, do a massive cumshot,

be cocky, show off. That's what people like so...

Do you ever think about getting a normal job?

No, fuck that.

Will, are you straight?

Yeah, I'm 100% straight.

I'm straight, and I think...

99% of clientele

like the fact that I'm straight,

they get off on the fact that I'm straight.

You get the odd one who will go, "Will you do this?

"Will you come and have sex with me?

Not going to meet them, never will meet them.

It's the morning after

and Will's already booking in clients for the evening.

Meanwhile, Martyn's out doing some market research.

He's got himself a day job...

in a sex shop.

Selling dildos and pornography isn't embarrassing for Martyn.

I lost my virginity at a really young age,

so I was always the first one to be talking about sex,

always bragging about it and I think that's kind of just stuck with me.

So, the whole sexual side of everything

has just been in my personality

just because I've done something so young

that maybe affected what my personality's going to be like

in the future, like it has now,

and I've now become that sort of person.

INTERVIEWER: Do you every worry that there might be other stuff out there

that you haven't thought about?

That might be... You might have another calling in life?

No.

You're master of your own destiny, that's 100%.

You can change, at any minute, what you want to do, you know?

I could go tomorrow, "I want to be a builder,"

That's what I mean. Anyone can change at any minute.

But I've got my vision to where I want to be

and I can see my vision, and that's what I've become.

Are your family supportive of what you do?

Not hugely but they understand what I do

and they understand why I do it,

and as long as I'm supporting myself,

they don't mind.

I sat at home once and I said,

"I'm going out with Will tonight and a couple of mates."

And they said, "How are you affording that?"

Cos I didn't have a job, or they didn't think I had a job.

I said, "I've got money," and said, "How did you get the money?"

I said, "Well, I'm doing webcam stuff."

And they said, "Well, what's that doing?"

I said, "Oh, it's stripping, wanking,

"mainly to men," and they were like, "Why are you doing that?"

"Just go and get a real job,"

and I said, "No, cos I'm making enough money

"to support myself doing this."

That's probably the only time they did discourage it

cos I was borrowing quite a bit of money from Mum and Dad

just to do whatever I wanted to do

and then they stopped giving me money

and they saw that I was just carrying on living life

cos I had a full-time job.

INTERVIEWER: Do your parents give you advice on your business idea?

No, not really

because it's my own idea

so I think they trust me with it.

Obviously they will give me advice if I'm doing something wrong,

I'm sure they'd do that,

but at the same time, it's my idea,

my vision and I know I'm pretty...

I'm 100% confident it'll do well -

and I think they can see that as well.

Do you wish you could get a bit more guidance from your mum and dad?

No, not at all.

They're amazing parents so they're doing their job

as my parents and they're amazing, so that's fine, yeah.

Do you think they're proud of you?

Yeah, definitely, yeah,

cos they see I'm making it in to a business.

Obviously...

the adult industry is a touchy market, you know,

but it's just a job, you know?

There's nothing wrong with it.

Hidden away in the Welsh valleys

is a rising star of the British webcam world.

Usually I go on the sunbed every other day.

I try and make sure I've got a nice colour,

cos I feel like the camera makes me look lighter than I am anyway

so if I'm a tad too dark -

in reality,

I tend to look better on webcam.

Five nights a week, Joseph transforms into J Matt,

an A-list cammer who's starting to gain celebrity status

in the camming world.

It's still me underneath it all, essentially.

I'm just kind of performing, like...

It's like being on stage I suppose.

His fans bid tokens, which get converted into cash,

which is paid directly into J Matt's account.

Yes, hey, what's up... Summer Boy?'

In return, they submit their performance requests.

J Matt is kind of like the...

..I suppose, more adventurous...

..side of me,

like the wilder side of me

that I suppose camming brings out.

I just made like 1,600 tokens,

which is like 160 for doing what?

Nothing too crazy, in my world.

For acting like a loon, basically.

I become lost in the world

of all these people talking

and different requests and stuff.

Like that last guy was just, like...

After I was just about to sign off,

and he wanted a quick private show

so I got like 5 off him.

Yeah, I'll lick my armpits for that.

- I guess I am a whore.
- HE LAUGHS

I guess...

you've just got to own it.

INTERVIEWER: You're laughing, but do you really believe that?

Do I believe I'm a whore?

I am a whore, aren't I?'

Joseph still lives at home with his parents

who know all about his camming.

Sleep all right?

Yeah, not too bad, did you?

Yeah, OK, yeah.

- Good.
- Do all right?

- Yeah, I did really well, actually.
- Good.

Probably the best I've done in ages,

so I got like...

nearly £120...

Wow, that's all right.

..for like two to three hours.

That's good, that's good.

Did you get lots of people in your room?

I think I had like 300 at one point.

People were tipping like crazy.

I didn't even know what they wanted to see, it was a bit overwhelming.

Just you.

It was just like, "Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys."

"What do you want to see?"

So I kind of just went with the flow.'

Obviously it got a bit raunchy but...

Oh, right.

Sorry, Mum.

Right show us your pictures, Joe.

This is the November issue.

A lot of rather X-rated stuff in here.

I can see that, yeah.

Is that in your camera room?

Yeah, this is the cam room.

So, that was my writing.

Brilliant.

No, I think they're lovely pictures.

- They're really good, they're nice.
- I took them all myself.

- Did you?
- Yeah.
- Well done, you.

But you know like the whole...

"bondage" and "fetish" gear and stuff

- is quite a big...
- Yeah.

..aspect of my camming persona.

And feet.

Oh, people love feet.

I know. When you told me, I was quite shocked.

Everyone's like, "Show feet, please. Show feet."

Weird.

I find that a bit weird

but whatever turns you on, isn't it? I suppose.

I did lick my armpits last night.

As a gay man who grew up in a small Welsh village,

Joseph sometimes had a tough time.

We used to play here as kids on the greenery.

We would make little houses and play mums and dads and

just all kinds of stuff that kids do.

Were you a happy child?

I would say I was a happy child, like...

Like, in the early years,

I was quite carefree,

but the move from primary school to comprehensive

was quite a big shift for me

and was where I struggled the most, really,

I suppose, trying to find myself.

Me having a lot of friends that were girls, that was seen as weird,

and I think people were trying to get a sense of who I was

before I had really discovered it myself.

I was always a heavy child,

there was always digs made.

I remember a boy put like a...

..football down his T-shirt once, and then he was walking around

and he was like, "Oh, look, Joe, I'm you."

Dick.

Unlike Joseph,

Pete is a webcam novice.

But just three weeks into his camming career,

he's started to build up an online fan base of muscle worshippers.

One client has offered £200

for a more real experience.

It was pretty blunt. He was like, "I want to meet someone."

"I want to meet up with YOU in a hotel."

It would be me travel to him,

he'd pay all the expenses

and it was basically a power thing.

INTERVIEWER: So what happened? Did Lily go with you?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, she waited in the car.

It got real then.

It'd gone from messaging, which is completely different,

to like, "OK, this is like real life now."

So, it went from there, like.

And then we went up to his room,

I think he was staying there a couple of nights,

and literally got in the room

and he shut the door, went in the room,

about 30th floor it was,

I was looking out the window, then I turned round

just to say something and he was completely naked

and I was like, "Oh."

I was like, "Oh, Jesus."

So the first part of it was,

I just took my top off,

and he wanted to rub baby oil on me

and then sat down and rubbed baby oil on my back -

that probably, in all fairness, lasted about ten minutes or so.

And then next thing was,

from that, he wanted me to...

He lay face down on the bed

and for me to lay on top of him, so...

Not crushing him as such,

but so he couldn't move

and then he got me to lie across him diagonally

so he couldn't get up but he still had the use of his hands,

so he wanked himself off

but I was like...

Cos I was lying on his chest as well,

you could tell his breathing was hindered from me doing that -

which, to me, it was a little bit odd,

it wasn't really my thing.

INTERVIEWER: How did the whole thing make you feel?

Erm...

I don't know a word better than weird.

It's just odd.

I wasn't disgusted by it

but I wouldn't be thinking,

"Oh, yeah, this is actually really great. This is enjoyable."

But I went with the mind-set beforehand,

and I think I always would, that it's a job.

You know, compare...

I know it sounds daft, but say

you're either carrying round bricks for nine hours a day,

labouring on a building site,

which is really hard,

and 9 hours feels like 100 hours,

or for the same money,

45 minutes an hour

to mess around with a guy on a bed.

To drum up more work,

Pete's put his mobile number online.

So, Pete's had a text.

It says "Hi, do you humiliate guys, please? Nothing sexual."

Pete's reply is "Hey, yeah, of course I would be happy to do that.

"I only do outcalls currently, though.

"Is that OK with you?"

The reply is, "Great, outcalls is better for me

"as I will travel from Portsmouth,

"it's nearly three hours.

"Are you happy to shit on me, please?"

SHE GIGGLES

That's all that's there currently.

INTERVIEWER: What do you think of that, Pete?

It's definitely...

Definitely something new.

I've definitely never been asked that before.

Something to consider.

Yeah.

So, what goes through your mind?

I don't know, I'm just a bit shocked that...

I don't know.

I was just a bit shocked that someone would ask that, really.

Just so blatant about it.

The first time you've ever asked

a question about something

and the first thing you ask is

is someone willing to shit on you?

I can just shit in a box and then do it, is that the same thing?

# Ah, freak out

# Le freak, c'est chic

# Freak out

# Ah, Freak out! #

Four boys, one camera

and eight degrees above freezing.

Martyn, Will and the Webcam Boys

have decided to give their online profile a makeover.

MUSIC: I Know What Boys Like by The Waitresses

# I know what boys like

# I know what guys want... #

Yeah, that looks really good.

If you look over your shoulder towards this way...

then if you go the other way round as well,

- so then turn the other way...
- # I know what guys want... #

That's a good picture, that one.

Another couple.

# I make them want me... #

Go back a bit and take your socks off as well.

# They want to touch me

# I never let them... #

There you are, looks good.

Think of the money, lads. The customers are going to love this.

# I know what boys like

# Boys like

# Boys like me

# But you, you're special... #

Yeah, if you go from the back.

# You're so much different

# I might let you

# Oh, would you like that?

# I might let you... #

- Next time you do it, make it sexy.
- # I know what boys like

# I know what guys want

# I know what boys like

# I know what's on their minds

# I know what boys like

# I know what guys want... #

Take them completely off but look out that way.

- Bend over?
- No, just look out that way.

They look really good.

Yeah, if you lie down on your front like Lucas just said.

THEY WHIMPER AND GIGGLE

- No.
- That was good, that was good.

I've seen how cold it is.

I'm the photographer.

# Boys like

# Boys like me... #

- This proves our commitment to the business.
- And the customers.

We'll come out whatever weather, whatever time of day,

we just want to get things done and make this the best.

- This will be the best.
- Come on, son.

# Sucker

# I know what boys like. #

With big plans for expansion,

Will and Martyn want to recruit

more men, and women,

to join their team of cammers.

But first they'll have to convince them

that camming is a legit way to make money.

Have you ever heard of webcam modelling?

Basically, you strip on webcam.

- Are you serious?
- Yeah, so, like...

THEY LAUGH

Excuse me. You're looking beautiful tonight.

Can we speak to you a second?

Oh!

Sometimes me and him and a lot of the other lads that work with us...

We don't even have to get naked. We just literally... No, seriously.

No, no, no, no. We are not interested.

TRANSLATION:

Yeah, si, si!

She's going to be a prostitute?

No, no, no. I mean, no, no. What's "no" in Spanish?

Non. That's French. Fuck.

- No, no.
- Basically, you have to make horny other people,

and so they can just...

You're an actress but at the same time, it's real, you know?

So you can be... You'd be, like, stripping, stripping

but you don't always have to be naked -

you could just be showing your feet.

Seriously, what's a prostitute?

To me, a prostitute is someone who goes

and meets someone to have sex with them and gets paid for it.

This is on the camera from your own bedroom.

- SHE LAUGHS
- Si, si, si!

Yeah, well, it's got to be big, right, so...

- OK, no.
- You don't know how big it is!

Nah, no problem.

- Well, anyway, good luck.
- Yeah, no, all right, girls.

- Take care.
- Have a good night.
- You too. Bye.

Those Spanish girls didn't really... They probably thought

we were offering them to do porn or something.

- They said "prostitution".
- I don't think they understood it.

It's not prostitution, is it? That's how it can be interpreted, though.

I mean, some people think it is. Like, my mum said to me once,

"You're prostituting yourself - you're selling your body."

- Yeah.
- I'm not a prostitute.

No!

Back in Wales, Joseph's preparing for another night at work.

He performs from a shed in his parents' back garden

that they've refurbished for his camming.

Tonight he's putting on a special show.

Joe, what's going to happen this evening?

- What are you doing?
- So, er, tonight on cam I'm doing Fetish Casino.

So it's basically like a dice game

that I like to play with my viewers.

It keeps things interactive.

So, basically, I'm rolling the dice,

but there's obviously six possible outcomes.

25 tokens per roll - that's 2.50.

So I'm just hoping for a steady stream of people tipping and

dice rolling and...

..nipple clamps and dick play

and dildo fucking and all of... All of that.

Hey, Seaford. Welcome to my Fetish Casino. I'm going to roll my dice.

Who's going to be brave enough to go first, then?

Yeah, SleazyLad!

You're the first to roll. Are you feeling lucky?

You going to take a roll of my dice?

- That would be a five.
- HE CHUCKLES

So...you get my dick.

The first time I found out about camming,

Joe, sort of, was staying up late.

I think he was trying to do his camming in his bedroom,

which is very small anyway.

Well, originally I think he asked

about having it as a bedroom out there.

And that was a bigger area and we didn't really use it -

it just had rubbish put in there.

So we decided to decorate it and make it nice for him.

Nipple clamps and spanks.

HE GROANS

And it's worked very well throughout the summer.

But he has got heating in there now, so...

It's cold out there.

And it's a six.

You know what that means?

Dildo fuck it is.

- You're very, very supportive.
- Mm. I try...

Some people might say "too supportive".

Yeah. Yeah, some people might say "too supportive", yeah.

Too soft.

Let's roll again. I like your spirit. Yeah, let's!

There's a reason why Joseph's mum is so open-minded

and supportive about his camming.

At 19, Joseph left to live in London.

- He'd had problems with drugs, with escorting...
- Six.

- All sorts of problems.
- Seven.

And I think he had reached rock bottom.

Any requests?

Being in London, I was getting introduced into, like,

the darker side of things and more drugs and more parties

and more, like, unsafe sex.

I think that's when things kind of took a turn for the worse, really.

There was a point where I'd come back from London

and I had to go into hospital because, er,

I'd been, like, injecting

and I had, like, an infected abscess on my arm.

Er...so I was in hospital for about ten days, like, on a drip.

Um, and you know, my mum - she was there with me.

Every day she'd drive an hour to the hospital just to come see me.

I mean, no parent wants to see their child go down that route.

You do your best.

You think... You start to question

whether you should've done something differently, or...

To sit by and be unable to do anything, really, other than...

Other than really just be there to support him

when he came home, really.

Sounds like you felt quite helpless.

Yeah, that's exactly it.

That's exactly how I felt.

This camming is...

for him has helped him.

What do you think of the outfit?

'I'm such a mummy's boy. Like, I do love my mum to death.'

And I've put her through so much shit

and I feel horrible about that but, er,

I think she'd agree with me that, like...

..the past is the past and I can't change that

and I can't take back anything that I've done

or anything that I've been through.

And it's been hard to be honest and be upfront about everything.

You know, try and move my life in a more positive direction.

You got your wish - you got number six!

It's so nice now to have him back home, and...

you know, he's doing the camming, he's earning some money.

It's building his confidence.

Thank you, GayBoy.

He's trying to be independent, so why not?

I am proud of him.

And I'm always glad when I hear him come in

and I hear him go up to bed.

I know that he's all right.

All right, peace out, guys.

Thanks for playing. See you next time.

Yeah, that'd be fine. If I perhaps have a little

think about something specific and then let you know...

Pete's experiment with camming and escorting hasn't been

quite as straightforward as he was expecting.

Maybe send you some things over for, like, a bit of an idea.

Yeah, that's fine.

That's probably fairly tame to some of the requests so yeah, definitely.

With his number now online,

he's being bombarded with anonymous calls.

There's no way to distinguish between the real clients

and the time wasters.

Exactly. That's the idea. Definitely sounds pretty good -

can't deny that. Yeah.

The calls just keep on coming, but they're not generating much cash.

Cheers. Speak to you later, then.

That was a marathon of a call, that was.

The general concept of the call, from what I got,

was it was to be him and I think he said ex-girlfriend

and they wanted to meet for a weekend,

somewhere over here,

and then just like a dirty weekend, really.

But he's...

He kept varying what he wanted, really.

He wanted it to be first just me and her,

then him, her and me. He said for the weekend it'd be about,

give or take, five grand for the weekend.

But he had some weird requests, as well. He said...

He said that she had a daughter and would I mind her getting involved?

And I said, "Well, what is your idea, then?"

He was like, "Well, she is only 15," so that's... That's it, then.

That's a no go. You know, it's... That's a definite no.

So I said, "No, that can't happen, but if she's not involved...

"..yeah."

How come you were so patient?

Er...

I suppose he never strayed off the subject completely.

He just...

He just went into so many areas on it, really,

and I suppose, as well...

I suppose if you come to sound so disinterested,

that's definitely going to kill it straight off there, so...

for the potential money you could earn for that half an hour,

it's easier to stay interested to a degree, obviously,

and just see where it goes.

Worst-case scenario, it was a waste of half an hour.

I suppose you could view it as a shop -

everyone who goes in there's not going to buy something, are they?

- No.
- You know, we go in shops and we walk out

and we haven't bought anything so it's kind of like that.

You've got customers and then just window shoppers, I think.

Obviously, in a shop, people who work in a shop,

it's not their personal time, always talking.

It's always on you chatting, you see.

You get half a dozen people call you up that are time wasters,

- even now, you see.
- Yeah.

I think sometimes the time wasters, as well, they offer a lot of money

straight off, you know,

"I'll pay you thousands," just to keep you on the phone.

After four hours of calls and texts, Pete still hasn't earned a penny.

And the requests are just getting weirder and weirder.

"I'm looking for an alpha male to own me,

"come round once a week and make me lick his boots, work boots,

"rugby boots et cetera, stomp on me,

"sniff sweaty socks, burp in face, sit on face for ages,

"in jeans/trackies/boxers."

HE CHUCKLES

- Weird one, that, isn't it?
- Yeah.

I didn't think that happened.

You hear it with girls with guys - it happens that way -

but the other way round...

It's a bit bizarre, isn't it?

But if I can get money for doing nothing

or just, like, messaging him...

I'll message him. I'll say, "Yeah, that sounds interesting."

That's the annoying thing with putting the phone number on there -

they can just phone you and then... you know, you never guarantee

if they're actually going to follow it up.

Too much.

With six years of camming experience,

Will and Martyn are having no problem making money.

One of our best customers wants a cam show.

Er...it's just a nice simple one, just a strip, wank and come one,

so we're going to do that for him.

So this guy's ready.

Tonight's show has a sporting theme.

David, you ready for your show? Will's just got to get dressed.

'Hi, yeah.

Yeah, sounds good.

It's billed Football Versus Rugby.

How long are you after - about 20 minutes?

'Yeah.'

Cool. You had a nice day at work?

It's getting better, is it?

Yeah, I bet.

You feeling horny, David?

Obviously, football's going to win.

No, like... Bang! The technique.

You don't look like men - we look like men.

You know, David, since I've been doing this

I hardly have a free wank any more.

These socks are really sweaty.

Do you want to smell 'em?

Do you want me to go from toe end to the top end?

'Yeah.'

- Do you want us to take our tops off, then?
- 'Yeah.'

You're just under nine minutes, David.

What do you want for the rest of it?

Do you want us to get hard? Wank our big hard dicks?

Do you want our hands free or do you want us to use our hands?

THEY CHUCKLE

See, footballer's got more, like, mobility.

What did you say, David? You say you've comed?

- You've comed already?
- Fucking hell, we're getting...

No wonder your wife never wants to fuck you.

Jesus! 30-second fucking wonder.

Do you think we're getting better every time?

Are we the best webcam models there are?

What's the name you'll never forget?

Thank you, David.

VIDEO CALL ENDS

Yeah, so that was nice and easy. We didn't even have to come.

- We just...
- Didn't really have to get hard.

Didn't even have to get hard, you know? Just strip off.

The customer's happy, we're happy.

Happy days.

- Was that kind of normal, Will?
- Yeah.
- Standard?

Obviously, every cam show is different -

everyone wants different things.

Usually, we do have to get hard and wank and come

but if they've come before we get hard, then...

As long as they're happy, then it's fine, you know.

If we don't fulfil all of it and they've got a 20-minute time limit

that they want, we will carry on till we've done what they want.'

Yeah. Even though we say 20 minutes, sometimes it lasts 30, 40 minutes

and we don't mind that because you've got to respect the customer.

And they're the ones paying the money, you know?

With work done for the day, the boys are ready for some downtime.

When me and Will go out, it's,

"Where's the next bird that we can shag?"

It's like a competition -

who's the fittest bird that we can nab for the night?

And if we don't find the fittest, we just keep hunting all night.

And we're ready.

Obviously, we both get different types of girls.

I'd say mine are a lot better looking.

But, er...

They say a night out is all about girls and pulling.

She'd come up to me and she was like,

can you buy me this, can you buy me that? And I was like...

Yeah, but who cares, you're going to bang her.

I know, I wasn't going to buy a fucking bottle of Grey Goose!

I like the natural girl look.

Yeah, and she was fucking natural, wasn't she?

- She had drawn-on eyebrows.
- MARTYN LAUGHS

But neither Will or Martyn have had a steady girlfriend for over a year.

- Oh, Martyn.
- Nearly set the place on fire!

MARTYN'S PHONE CHIMES

- Fucking hell.
- Whoops. Who's that?

It's the ex again.

Just don't reply, just block her, that's what I'd do.

'You will never understand how much you've broken me in half.'

- HE LAUGHS
- Yeah, but they all say that.

I mean, the next... In a week's time, she'll be banging...

She's probably already banging someone anyway. Exactly.

That's why I never trust girls.

I didn't trust my ex-girlfriend, fuck me.

Will, why don't you trust girls?

Basically, it is... I mean, if they're going to sleep with me

when they've got a boyfriend, I mean, like, why would I trust

a girl, you know what I mean? Cos they could do it to me.

The amount of girls that do, just don't give a toss...

Probably most of the girls I've slept have...actually have...

I'd say-I'd say 90% of girls...

- or husbands...
- have less of a heart in a relationship than blokes do.

I think when blokes are in a relationship, they're...

90% of them are committed. Obviously you get ones that aren't committed

and do cheat, but I'd say the majority of the cheating

is done by the women.

Have you been hurt by a girl?

I have, yeah.

Erm, I had this thing where I wanted to know...

I always wondered whether there was something going on

with... Well, had something ever gone on with this guy

and one of my exes, and she always was adamant, "No, no, no,

"nothing ever happened."

And then we had a massive argument

and she turned around and said to me, "Oh, yeah, by the way,

"I did kiss him and we did have feelings for each other."

And I was like, what the fuck? Now, that hurt, cos of the fact

she'd lied all this time about it.

But I don't think I've been hurt any other way.

Fucking women are women.

You don't really have feelings for them really,

unless you're going to marry them.

No-one wants to get hurt, everyone admits that, but, as well as that,

you've got to focus on... I've got to focus on my business

and I don't want any distractions and all that sort of stuff.

I just want to focus on my money, get my career going really well.

Erm, just basically focus. Tunnel vision basically.

MUSIC: House Every Weekend by David Zowie

# When it comes to House every weekend

# When it comes to House every weekend

# House every weekend

# House every weekend. #

In Britain, over a million pounds is spent on webcammers each year.

Webcam boys! Webcam boys!

These boys want to make the most of this porn revolution.

- I'll get the champagne later.
- Smash.
- First four, bang.

For them, camming isn't something to be shy about...

We love each other, don't we?

...it's a career choice like any other.

You're hired!

Yeah, yeah. Webcam models for Ooh La La.

What does that even mean?

Erm, we'll show you, we'll show you. Come and have a look.

Get the website up, get the website up.

You two are hot, you are.

We want to be the two that have got a yacht, got a big house, mansion...

- Who's next?
- Who's next!

...loads of cars, loads of Ferraris, stuff like that, all the women...

All the women in the world. Whoever we want, we can have.

That's what we want at the end of the day.

We're not just a business, we're a family,

everyone will get fucking rich together.

That's 100% true.

Like, I've earned good money since I was 16.

I mean, I know the market is unbelievable.

That lad came up to me earlier, right, I was sat down and he goes,

"I know who you are", and I went, "Who the fuck am I?"

and he went, "You're a webcam boy." And I went, "Yeah."

- Fuck me, he's a customer.
- And he went, "Can I get a photo?"

And, fuck me, I'm not an A-lister, but, fuck me,

he's treating me like an A-lister straightaway.

THEY SING 'RIDE WIT ME' BY NELLY

# Hey! Pass me the money! #

In ten years' time, I'll be 32,

so I'll have a couple of houses,

different places.

Erm, hopefully I'll have a nice yacht,

Erm, just enjoying my life, basically.

- Ta, lads. Cheers for that.
- Here's to all getting rich.

Joseph's back in London.

He's got big plans for the future too.

He's keen to elevate his celebrity status even further.

Er, today's a really big day

cos today I'm going to do a photoshoot.

Erm, my first photoshoot, actually.

Erm, so that's going to be in Soho, er, with this guy called Matt Spike.

He does a lot of fetish photography.

Up until now, I've been like, operating as like, a one-man-band

kind of thing.

I think it's a big step and hopefully it's going to, you know,

further my profile online and be a positive thing, yeah.

- All right?
- Hey, what's up?
- How you doing?
- Nice to meet you.

Yeah, finally, finally.

Yeah.

- So, you're Matt.
- I'm Matt.

- And you're Matt - J Matt.
- J Matt.
- MATT LAUGHS

Yeah, so what I really want to get out of this is basically,

you know, a handful of really nice shots of you

looking hot in, a few different types of fetish gear, basically.

So I'm sort of thinking like, maybe,

like some sort of, erm...

..sort of sub-sub-sub

but like, aggressive sub kind of

sleazy boy.

- A sleazy alternative punk boy type thing.
- Yeah.

Yeah.

Smile.

I love that one.

Just spread your legs apart a bit more.

- You know what I mean.
- Yeah, wicked.

That way a bit.

That's the one.

That's it. Yeah, awesome.

Yeah, brilliant.

Yeah, I can't stop!

While he's in London,

he takes the opportunity to pick up some stuff for work.

Erm, that could work quite well in my shows.

Tracking this gear down in the Welsh Valleys can be tricky.

- That's quite bold, isn't it?
- HE LAUGHS

So how long have you been doing webcam work?

- You ever seen my webcam before?
- I have.

And...

No need to be embarrassed.

- Yeah, that's a good attitude.
- You're shorter in real life.

It feels a bit surreal being here.

This whole area just, like, brings back a lot of memories.

Some good times...

..but, like, a lot of like, baggage and a lot of things left unsaid

to a lot of people...

..and just a lot of pain.

A lot went on in such a short period of time.

I was just living in such a haze

that the days would just blend into one another and the nights.

Things happened that I'm still not entirely, like, straight on.

And I put myself in situations that were like, incredibly stupid.

You know, I would go to meet these guys

and we'd be doing drugs together, but, like...

..things happened that I couldn't really explain,

like, erm...

..and I was just never really given any straight answers and...

I've just got whole periods of time

that are just complete blackouts to me.

So, you know...

I can't even say, like, you know, I was raped or whatever.

I can't even say that with, like,

..clarity, but there was definitely occasions

where I was taken advantage of...

..and, like, used.

I was in so deep with all the drama that was going on,

with all the drugs and everything,

that there was a point that I thought,

I'm never going to make it out of this alive.

I think when I left London

and I was back with my parents, it was kind of like, oh, fuck,

what do I do now, kind of thing.

And...

I suppose

having done the escorting and having, like...

If it wasn't sex for money, it was sex for drugs,

so sex was kind of like...

..and I know sex sells and I know I can sell myself sexually,

so I suppose that's kind of where the camming came in.

But I think it has been positive in a lot of ways

because it has allowed me to get that independence

which I never had when I was fucked off my face on drugs

and didn't know what was going on and didn't know where I was

half the time.

I was just living in this, like, in this complete, like, fog.

Whereas, with camming...

I'm my own boss and I'm in control.

That control, I feel like, is something I needed to take back.

I'll be able to leave all this behind me

and get to where I want to be and find true happiness,

whatever that is.

I think, ultimately, I just want to leave all this behind me

and just write a happier ending for myself, really.

And I feel like I'm one step closer to doing that, yeah.

MUSIC: I Know What Boys Like by The Waitresses

# I know what boys like

# I know what guys want

# I know what boys like

# I got what boys like

# I know what boys like

# I know what guys want

# I see them looking

# I make them want me

# I like to tease them

# They want to touch me

# I never let them

# I know what boys like

# I know what guys want

# I know what boys like

# Boys like

# Boys like me

# But you You're special

# I might let you

# You're so much different

# I might let you

# Ooh would you like that?

# I might let you

# I know what boys like

# I know what guys want

# I know what boys like

# Boys like

# Boys like me. #