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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,183 --> 00:00:19,894 I remember one of the first times we went surfing. 2 00:00:20,562 --> 00:00:21,396 Um... 3 00:00:21,980 --> 00:00:25,817 And Garret, he had a little surfboard and I had a board, 4 00:00:27,152 --> 00:00:29,362 and I... 5 00:00:29,904 --> 00:00:33,533 helped him catch a wave, and he really liked it. 6 00:00:34,409 --> 00:00:36,369 He just caught on right away. 7 00:00:37,620 --> 00:00:41,332 So, I had instilled a love for the ocean for him. 8 00:00:46,504 --> 00:00:48,465 We would go fishing and things like that. 9 00:00:53,011 --> 00:00:57,974 Couple years ago, I told him that we bought a lot in Mexico 10 00:00:58,391 --> 00:01:01,436 uh, that is like five minutes away from the water. 11 00:01:01,853 --> 00:01:05,106 "Uh, it's a world-class surf spot, 12 00:01:07,442 --> 00:01:09,861 And I want to give it to you." He goes, "What?" 13 00:01:09,944 --> 00:01:11,279 You know, and he got all excited, 14 00:01:11,362 --> 00:01:14,657 and he was really, really, uh... 15 00:01:15,241 --> 00:01:16,701 happy to hear that. 16 00:01:17,202 --> 00:01:22,457 And I says, "Look, but you have to earn enough money 17 00:01:22,540 --> 00:01:24,959 to put up a little house on there." 18 00:01:26,669 --> 00:01:29,506 I says, "So, the sooner that you get the money, 19 00:01:29,589 --> 00:01:31,508 the sooner you can have it," you know. 20 00:01:31,883 --> 00:01:33,218 So he said, "Okay, Dad." 21 00:01:37,055 --> 00:01:40,642 He got a job on a long-range fishing boat. 22 00:01:43,603 --> 00:01:46,439 And then right about a week or so before he was supposed to leave, 23 00:01:46,523 --> 00:01:51,111 he calls me, and he says, "Dad, I decided not to go." 24 00:01:51,194 --> 00:01:52,153 I says, "Why not?" 25 00:01:52,237 --> 00:01:56,574 He says, "Because I know where I can make more money in a lesser amount of time." 26 00:01:57,158 --> 00:01:58,785 And I says, "Where?" He says, 27 00:01:58,868 --> 00:02:01,830 "Up in the medical marijuana fields up in Northern California." 28 00:02:01,913 --> 00:02:03,373 And I said, "No, son. 29 00:02:03,456 --> 00:02:07,085 Don't even get involved with that, please." 30 00:04:16,339 --> 00:04:20,802 Humboldt, for people that don't know what we are all about, is... 31 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:24,389 always been known as an outlaw community. 32 00:04:25,807 --> 00:04:28,142 You say, "Oh, yeah, I'm from Humboldt County," 33 00:04:28,226 --> 00:04:30,728 and people go, "Oh. Okay." 34 00:04:30,812 --> 00:04:33,106 Usually that's a wink-wink, nudge-nudge, 35 00:04:33,189 --> 00:04:36,192 say-no-more situation where, um... 36 00:04:36,693 --> 00:04:39,195 they're assuming that you're just a pot grower, 37 00:04:39,946 --> 00:04:42,073 that that's all you're really all about. 38 00:04:43,324 --> 00:04:46,661 What allured me, and I know a lot of people, 39 00:04:46,744 --> 00:04:48,204 I think it's the freedom. 40 00:04:48,288 --> 00:04:50,415 I think it was the idea of living in the great outdoors, 41 00:04:50,498 --> 00:04:52,458 off the grid, being self-sufficient. 42 00:04:52,542 --> 00:04:53,668 That type of thing. 43 00:04:53,751 --> 00:04:55,545 Things that are harmless, really. 44 00:05:08,766 --> 00:05:12,312 People come up here from all over. 45 00:05:13,688 --> 00:05:17,692 Humboldt County is a great destination to find yourself. 46 00:05:24,907 --> 00:05:28,036 The redwoods, the mountains, the rivers, the ocean. 47 00:05:29,912 --> 00:05:33,207 It's the most beautiful place in the world, in my opinion. 48 00:05:37,295 --> 00:05:41,382 But there's a million places to disappear in Humboldt. 49 00:06:09,660 --> 00:06:11,579 - Can I ask you a question? - Sure. 50 00:06:11,662 --> 00:06:12,955 Are you a local? 51 00:06:13,039 --> 00:06:15,458 No, I'm just here visiting some friends and family. 52 00:06:15,541 --> 00:06:17,585 -Oh, okay. All right, thanks. -Yeah. 53 00:06:24,384 --> 00:06:27,178 Hi, sorry, can I ask you a question? Are you a local? 54 00:06:27,261 --> 00:06:28,471 -Yeah. -Um... 55 00:06:28,971 --> 00:06:30,932 I'm looking for my daughter. 56 00:06:32,100 --> 00:06:34,185 She's a missing person. 57 00:06:34,268 --> 00:06:36,145 I actually come from Australia. 58 00:06:36,229 --> 00:06:37,397 Oh, okay. 59 00:06:37,688 --> 00:06:38,523 And... 60 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,151 -What's her name? -Her name is Asha. 61 00:06:43,611 --> 00:06:45,571 I can't say I've seen her. 62 00:06:45,655 --> 00:06:47,323 -Okay. -Uh-uh. 63 00:06:47,407 --> 00:06:48,408 -All right. -Yup. 64 00:06:48,491 --> 00:06:49,409 Thank you. 65 00:07:09,053 --> 00:07:12,098 There are fliers everywhere. 66 00:07:14,976 --> 00:07:19,564 There's old cases that haven't been solved from 30 years ago. 67 00:07:20,940 --> 00:07:24,861 Then there's cases from a couple years ago that are still unsolved 68 00:07:24,944 --> 00:07:27,196 and then there's new cases cropping up. 69 00:07:31,284 --> 00:07:33,828 You could just tell that there's something going on up here. 70 00:07:34,162 --> 00:07:37,748 Right? There's always a new missing person on front of the store. 71 00:07:37,832 --> 00:07:39,709 There's always these signs. 72 00:07:40,209 --> 00:07:41,502 It's alarming. 73 00:07:42,795 --> 00:07:44,839 The Humboldt County Sheriff's Office 74 00:07:44,922 --> 00:07:47,383 and search and rescue posse continues the search 75 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:50,178 for a missing woman in the Petrolia area. 76 00:07:51,179 --> 00:07:52,889 Do we got folks from search and rescue? 77 00:07:54,056 --> 00:07:56,601 Awesome. Great. Thanks so much for coming. 78 00:07:56,684 --> 00:08:01,439 And then we got the sheriff as well, so... 79 00:08:01,522 --> 00:08:03,357 Yeah. Thanks for being here. 80 00:08:04,775 --> 00:08:06,694 So, what I would like to do 81 00:08:06,777 --> 00:08:09,155 is to go from her vehicle 82 00:08:09,238 --> 00:08:11,699 and do a ground search 83 00:08:11,782 --> 00:08:13,659 to where this river access is at. 84 00:08:13,743 --> 00:08:15,036 Let's investigate that first, 85 00:08:15,119 --> 00:08:21,334 because that's daunting information that there's a foul smell 86 00:08:21,417 --> 00:08:25,046 uh, that may be related with something deceased. 87 00:08:29,592 --> 00:08:32,845 It's called the Humboldt County Sheriff's Posse, is what we are. 88 00:08:34,096 --> 00:08:36,766 We're volunteers. We're there just to help. 89 00:08:39,268 --> 00:08:42,396 Not only do we do search and rescue, we do evidence searches. 90 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,817 We'll help them out if somebody tosses a gun into a field. 91 00:08:46,901 --> 00:08:49,820 We'll go and help them search for that gun if they can't find it. 92 00:08:53,074 --> 00:08:56,327 Law enforcement in Humboldt is definitely spread thin. 93 00:08:56,869 --> 00:08:57,787 Definitely. 94 00:08:59,413 --> 00:09:03,292 They deal with a lot of things that other counties don't have to deal with. 95 00:09:09,632 --> 00:09:11,300 I've found a few bodies, yup. 96 00:09:12,093 --> 00:09:13,844 I've definitely found a few bodies. 97 00:09:18,349 --> 00:09:22,144 But I think being able to, you know, 98 00:09:22,228 --> 00:09:25,898 at least return that child to his parents. 99 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:30,486 I think as a parent, not knowing, you know, 100 00:09:30,570 --> 00:09:32,238 where your child is... 101 00:09:33,447 --> 00:09:35,366 you know, I'd much rather know. 102 00:09:39,662 --> 00:09:41,289 It's a really difficult area. 103 00:09:41,914 --> 00:09:46,669 You can bring out 100 personnel and air assets. 104 00:09:47,837 --> 00:09:50,923 However, your search area becomes infinite 105 00:09:51,882 --> 00:09:56,137 once you rule out the high-probability areas. 106 00:09:59,223 --> 00:10:03,603 After that, then it's just a matter of getting the word out to the community 107 00:10:03,686 --> 00:10:07,398 to be on the lookout for our missing person 108 00:10:07,481 --> 00:10:09,275 and to contact the sheriff's office. 109 00:10:11,527 --> 00:10:13,904 The Humboldt County Sheriff's Office is asking for the public 110 00:10:13,988 --> 00:10:16,282 -to keep an eye out for a missing man. -For a missing woman. 111 00:10:16,365 --> 00:10:18,868 -Another man is missing. -Mysteriously disappeared. 112 00:10:18,951 --> 00:10:20,995 Last seen on Highway 36. 113 00:10:22,455 --> 00:10:25,625 More missing people than any other county in California. 114 00:10:25,708 --> 00:10:27,043 Why is that? 115 00:10:27,126 --> 00:10:29,378 There are a lot of missing people here. 116 00:10:29,462 --> 00:10:31,505 I think a lot of people come up to Humboldt County 117 00:10:31,589 --> 00:10:34,258 to get away from life somewhere else. 118 00:10:34,342 --> 00:10:38,471 So you already have a culture of people who kind of want to disappear. 119 00:10:41,724 --> 00:10:43,809 A lot of the public opinion out there 120 00:10:43,893 --> 00:10:46,520 believe that there is possibly a serial killer. 121 00:10:47,563 --> 00:10:49,106 It's crossed my mind. 122 00:10:49,690 --> 00:10:53,069 You know, like, I couldn't-- That's one of the things that came across my mind. 123 00:10:53,152 --> 00:10:56,656 "Maybe there's a serial killer that's killing all these people or something. 124 00:10:56,739 --> 00:10:57,907 All these missing people." 125 00:10:59,659 --> 00:11:01,118 It's a really remote place. 126 00:11:01,202 --> 00:11:04,955 This is why people came here in the first place, it's the remoteness. 127 00:11:06,207 --> 00:11:09,669 It makes you kind of think, what if this guy came up here 128 00:11:09,752 --> 00:11:11,587 because he could get away with this? 129 00:11:12,296 --> 00:11:13,255 You know? 130 00:11:13,923 --> 00:11:18,302 That narrative is flashy and attractive and misleading. 131 00:11:18,386 --> 00:11:20,638 If it's not a serial killer, then what is it? 132 00:11:22,682 --> 00:11:27,186 I-I do not-- If I knew, then I guess these wouldn't be unsolved cases. 133 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,663 What brings you to Northern California? 134 00:11:46,997 --> 00:11:50,543 I have come to Northern California 135 00:11:50,751 --> 00:11:52,503 looking for my daughter, 136 00:11:53,129 --> 00:11:55,631 who became a missing person 137 00:11:55,715 --> 00:11:59,135 on September 21st, 2015. 138 00:11:59,635 --> 00:12:02,555 So you have had some reports and you followed up. 139 00:12:02,638 --> 00:12:04,348 I get vague reports, yes. 140 00:12:04,432 --> 00:12:07,309 But you would say nothing that you really felt like... 141 00:12:07,393 --> 00:12:11,814 No. I did have a girl, the other day, 142 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,235 say that she spoke to someone with a tattoo like Asha's, 143 00:12:16,318 --> 00:12:18,154 and that made me feel really good. 144 00:12:19,196 --> 00:12:20,239 I can imagine. 145 00:12:24,952 --> 00:12:28,038 And how has local law enforcement responded? 146 00:12:29,707 --> 00:12:32,376 The local law enforcement, um... 147 00:12:33,753 --> 00:12:35,880 yeah, it's a tricky... 148 00:12:36,714 --> 00:12:40,050 it's a tricky thing in that they have been, 149 00:12:40,134 --> 00:12:42,344 I would say, overly kind to me, 150 00:12:42,428 --> 00:12:45,681 and they would lend me an ear at any time of the day or night. 151 00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:52,688 However, their MO is different than what we may think it should be. 152 00:12:55,399 --> 00:12:59,153 And you realize that it's really up to you, 153 00:12:59,236 --> 00:13:01,405 the individual family member... 154 00:13:01,489 --> 00:13:03,157 She looks familiar, for some reason. 155 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:04,992 ...to lead the charge. 156 00:13:07,244 --> 00:13:12,625 I believe that's because they have so many reports of missing people. 157 00:13:20,758 --> 00:13:27,515 To leave an anonymous message, you can call 213-986-7671 158 00:13:27,598 --> 00:13:30,935 or Facebook, "Help Find Asha Kreimer." 159 00:13:31,018 --> 00:13:34,730 Reporting for KMUD News, this is Eileen Russell. 160 00:13:36,565 --> 00:13:41,028 There are so many missing persons in Humboldt County that law enforcement 161 00:13:41,111 --> 00:13:43,030 cannot possibly keep up with it. 162 00:13:45,115 --> 00:13:46,492 Within the sheriff's department, 163 00:13:46,575 --> 00:13:49,620 a lot of times the missing persons detective 164 00:13:49,703 --> 00:13:52,039 is also a homicide detective. 165 00:13:53,207 --> 00:13:56,335 This is where our records bureau, where we process, 166 00:13:56,418 --> 00:13:59,296 you know, 12,000 police reports every year. 167 00:13:59,380 --> 00:14:03,717 And missing persons cases, crime reports, those kind of things. 168 00:14:06,053 --> 00:14:07,304 I did have a question, 169 00:14:07,388 --> 00:14:10,182 as somebody who looks at a lot of crime and missing person cases. 170 00:14:10,266 --> 00:14:13,853 Wouldn't it be easier to have one dude who looks at all these missing people 171 00:14:13,936 --> 00:14:16,230 rather than just spending it out, and... 172 00:14:17,439 --> 00:14:21,235 You know, it all depends, because a voluntary missing person... 173 00:14:21,318 --> 00:14:23,112 You know, we have our detective bureau 174 00:14:23,195 --> 00:14:27,867 that looks at these cases, and we have a caseload. 175 00:14:27,950 --> 00:14:31,871 The problem is, when you have, you know, 20 homicides in a year, 176 00:14:31,954 --> 00:14:33,747 some of those things get pushed to the side. 177 00:14:33,831 --> 00:14:37,209 And it's an important thing for us to do, absolutely, 178 00:14:37,293 --> 00:14:39,753 but we also, with the limited resources we have, 179 00:14:39,837 --> 00:14:41,338 we have to prioritize, you know. 180 00:14:41,422 --> 00:14:45,342 And also, people have to work with us. 181 00:14:48,888 --> 00:14:52,474 Especially in southern Humboldt, if there's a problem, 182 00:14:52,975 --> 00:14:55,811 they can't go to law enforcement, 183 00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:58,188 because their lifestyle 184 00:14:58,272 --> 00:15:02,234 and the way they've been making money has been illegal, and still is illegal, 185 00:15:02,318 --> 00:15:06,238 unless you have a permit, which those are few and far between even now. 186 00:15:07,239 --> 00:15:10,910 What we are finding is that missing persons 187 00:15:10,993 --> 00:15:14,496 are very difficult to find in Humboldt County. 188 00:15:14,580 --> 00:15:17,499 And a lot of that is tied back into the cannabis industry. 189 00:15:38,562 --> 00:15:42,441 A harvest is a really big deal, because you're thinking, 190 00:15:42,524 --> 00:15:43,734 "We made it this far. 191 00:15:43,817 --> 00:15:46,612 There's one last chance that we're going to get busted." 192 00:15:49,865 --> 00:15:53,285 A trimmer, or trimmigrant, would be anybody who comes to Humboldt 193 00:15:53,369 --> 00:15:55,704 specifically to make money during harvest trimming. 194 00:15:57,122 --> 00:16:00,292 When I first started trimming, it was just hippie girls, mostly. 195 00:16:01,627 --> 00:16:03,128 All the trimmers were women. 196 00:16:03,629 --> 00:16:06,382 Mostly because Greg used to say, and I agree, 197 00:16:06,465 --> 00:16:09,009 that guys eat more, they drink more, and they sleep more. 198 00:16:09,551 --> 00:16:14,056 Also, usually a hippie girl wouldn't come back and rob you. 199 00:16:15,015 --> 00:16:16,517 But her boyfriend would. 200 00:16:17,768 --> 00:16:22,731 I was just gonna stay for a year or two, and I couldn't ever leave. 201 00:16:23,315 --> 00:16:25,442 I really fell in love with the lifestyle. 202 00:16:25,943 --> 00:16:30,656 It just seemed like a different world that I couldn't believe it existed. 203 00:16:33,409 --> 00:16:38,247 It's not easy, but it is a much more satisfying life than 204 00:16:38,330 --> 00:16:40,165 what I had my graduate degree in. 205 00:16:43,419 --> 00:16:46,046 And it wasn't just the money, it was the community. 206 00:16:46,130 --> 00:16:49,133 It was our cabin, it was our land, specifically. 207 00:16:49,508 --> 00:16:51,051 That's our family business. 208 00:16:56,015 --> 00:17:01,395 Kids come up here sometimes thinking this is one big reggae festival. 209 00:17:03,313 --> 00:17:05,774 They feel like they're gonna come to paradise, 210 00:17:05,858 --> 00:17:10,112 that they're gonna make a ton of money, they're gonna be smoking weed, 211 00:17:10,195 --> 00:17:13,615 living the good life up in the forest, up in the mountains. 212 00:17:14,033 --> 00:17:19,663 And when they get there, a lot of times they end up in dangerous situations. 213 00:17:20,748 --> 00:17:23,333 And a lot of times, bad things happen, and a lot of times, 214 00:17:23,417 --> 00:17:28,047 it's not even close to what they think this Shangri-La trip of theirs 215 00:17:28,130 --> 00:17:30,299 is what they thought it was gonna be. 216 00:17:35,387 --> 00:17:37,973 I found these four trimmers on the side of the road. 217 00:17:38,390 --> 00:17:39,600 Just picked them up. 218 00:17:39,683 --> 00:17:42,186 I liked them, they were cool, they were nice. 219 00:17:42,269 --> 00:17:44,688 So that's why I brought them here, to work for me. 220 00:17:44,772 --> 00:17:49,401 Trim the product from fresh cannabis into a marketable product to sell. 221 00:17:57,993 --> 00:17:59,203 How long you been here? 222 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:01,205 One month now. 223 00:18:01,288 --> 00:18:02,206 -One month? -Yeah. 224 00:18:02,623 --> 00:18:06,627 We can say that we were lucky because we found Carlos, 225 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:09,755 and he's a really good guy and he care about us. 226 00:18:09,838 --> 00:18:11,840 And the farm is really nice. 227 00:18:12,508 --> 00:18:16,386 I'm from France. We're from Brittany, north of France. 228 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:22,518 And we took the bus... San Francisco, to here, Garberville. 229 00:18:23,060 --> 00:18:27,231 Joanna and me were so scared, because we are only two girls 230 00:18:27,314 --> 00:18:30,692 who didn't know nobody here, you know, nothing here. 231 00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:32,194 You're stuck up here? 232 00:18:32,277 --> 00:18:34,071 -Yes. -You can't go? 233 00:18:34,154 --> 00:18:36,698 -No. -No, because you don't have the car. 234 00:18:38,575 --> 00:18:41,787 They sleep in the trailer, or in this room, 235 00:18:41,870 --> 00:18:43,580 wherever they're comfortable. 236 00:18:43,664 --> 00:18:46,416 Then they come here and work 12 hours a day. 237 00:18:48,377 --> 00:18:50,838 I pay $150 per pound, 238 00:18:51,421 --> 00:18:53,632 and the fast ones do two pounds a day; 239 00:18:53,715 --> 00:18:55,467 the slow ones get a pound a day. 240 00:18:57,344 --> 00:19:02,641 There's grandmothers that live here and do this work that have, 241 00:19:02,724 --> 00:19:04,768 you know, this has been their life. 242 00:19:05,644 --> 00:19:06,854 Beautiful. 243 00:19:07,437 --> 00:19:08,856 Boy, it looks so good. 244 00:19:09,356 --> 00:19:12,776 I've never hired trimmigrants, personally. I usually like to hire a local. 245 00:19:12,860 --> 00:19:17,364 These are amazing. They have no spurs. They have no crow's feet. 246 00:19:17,447 --> 00:19:22,327 It actually gives the essence and the beauty of the whole bud. 247 00:19:23,370 --> 00:19:25,289 What I like to term sexiness. 248 00:19:27,583 --> 00:19:29,459 You got to be cautious as well, 249 00:19:29,543 --> 00:19:32,254 because you're working with people that are either 250 00:19:32,337 --> 00:19:35,340 like myself that are open and cool 251 00:19:35,424 --> 00:19:38,760 and willing to more or less be your friend 252 00:19:38,844 --> 00:19:40,929 and not want anything from you, 253 00:19:41,013 --> 00:19:43,849 other than just your service to clean my weed. 254 00:19:44,308 --> 00:19:46,852 Or you're gonna step into an environment with somebody-- 255 00:19:46,935 --> 00:19:49,479 they don't really care about your feelings at all. 256 00:19:50,063 --> 00:19:53,192 They just want the work done and maybe a little something extra from you. 257 00:19:55,152 --> 00:19:56,486 I heard weird stories. 258 00:19:56,570 --> 00:20:00,490 One girl, you know, asking for a job, and he wanted her... 259 00:20:01,325 --> 00:20:05,078 to work for him-- He wanted her to work topless. 260 00:20:05,162 --> 00:20:06,538 And she refused. 261 00:20:06,622 --> 00:20:10,292 But then I was coming up this other girl from the edge of the supermarket, 262 00:20:10,375 --> 00:20:13,045 and she, "Yeah, okay, I'll do it." Just jumped in, and they went off. 263 00:20:13,128 --> 00:20:14,338 And I'm like, "What the fuck?" 264 00:20:15,339 --> 00:20:17,466 A lot of the trimmigrants is very trusting, 265 00:20:17,549 --> 00:20:18,800 jump in a car with anybody, 266 00:20:18,884 --> 00:20:22,137 go out, you know, 20 miles into who knows where. 267 00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:24,640 Ten miles on a one-lane dirt road. 268 00:20:24,723 --> 00:20:26,934 Poor cell phone reception here. People don't realize that. 269 00:20:27,017 --> 00:20:31,396 They come here, don't realize that cell phones don't work in 90% of the places. 270 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,400 It can be a very dangerous... 271 00:20:37,778 --> 00:20:41,240 choice to go out in the hills and try to make the big money here. 272 00:20:47,204 --> 00:20:49,790 A common thing to do in the beat one, which is the downtown, 273 00:20:49,873 --> 00:20:52,000 is to watch these bus stops. 274 00:20:55,545 --> 00:20:57,172 You can kinda tell. 275 00:20:57,256 --> 00:21:01,176 There's younger folks that think they're coming off here for the green gold. 276 00:21:01,802 --> 00:21:03,011 And, uh... 277 00:21:04,429 --> 00:21:05,347 step off the bus. 278 00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:09,059 They think they're gonna step right into meeting somebody and getting a job 279 00:21:09,142 --> 00:21:12,688 trimming some weed, and making their millions, 280 00:21:12,771 --> 00:21:16,775 and coming back to home where they came from with loads of cash. 281 00:21:17,901 --> 00:21:19,653 But chances are, when they step off the bus, 282 00:21:19,736 --> 00:21:21,905 especially here, um, 283 00:21:22,489 --> 00:21:23,323 there's... 284 00:21:24,574 --> 00:21:29,162 a population of people that are waiting to take advantage of them. 285 00:21:30,747 --> 00:21:32,916 Either rob them of whatever they've got, 286 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,547 or take them into labor trafficking situations, 287 00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:40,632 even sex trafficking situations. 288 00:21:41,133 --> 00:21:44,636 And that's not just the girls. The guys, too, are trafficked. 289 00:21:58,108 --> 00:22:02,821 Garret told me, "Dad, you know, I've never worked so hard in all my life. 290 00:22:04,031 --> 00:22:07,242 I start early in the morning and I come in late at night. 291 00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:10,329 And I'm just so tired." 292 00:22:12,748 --> 00:22:17,210 They really used him up there to do a lot. 293 00:22:19,046 --> 00:22:21,840 Basically, he was in charge of their whole crop. 294 00:22:26,678 --> 00:22:30,766 A lot of people from San Diego, hippie types that would go up there 295 00:22:30,849 --> 00:22:33,268 because they like to smoke weed, and want to be around weed. 296 00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:35,228 So if you work for a month straight trimming bud, 297 00:22:35,312 --> 00:22:37,189 you got a good amount of money, you know? 298 00:22:37,272 --> 00:22:39,566 Um, but yeah, more seasonal. 299 00:22:39,649 --> 00:22:43,362 What Garret was doing was, he was trying to go big time. 300 00:22:43,445 --> 00:22:44,988 You know, like run a farm. 301 00:22:45,072 --> 00:22:49,451 His intention was to stack up a couple hundred grand 302 00:22:49,534 --> 00:22:52,079 or something and retire in Mexico and fish. 303 00:22:52,829 --> 00:22:54,039 And, you know... 304 00:22:57,501 --> 00:23:03,340 Humboldt County... any place, really, where there's a drug trade... 305 00:23:04,925 --> 00:23:08,095 it's not that easy. You got to be willing to do the dirt, 306 00:23:08,678 --> 00:23:12,265 or shut the fuck up and get the fuck out as soon as humanly possible. 307 00:23:16,186 --> 00:23:20,107 I would at least get a call from him maybe once every two weeks, 308 00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:21,566 and we would talk for a long time. 309 00:23:25,487 --> 00:23:29,950 Over the months, I think it was maybe about a year or so 310 00:23:30,033 --> 00:23:31,701 he had been up there, and then... 311 00:23:32,327 --> 00:23:34,162 all of a sudden, the calls stopped. 312 00:23:36,832 --> 00:23:39,334 And then right away, I started thinking to myself, 313 00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:40,585 "Something happened." 314 00:24:02,524 --> 00:24:08,029 One of the driving motivations of coming here was to seek self-sufficiency. 315 00:24:09,489 --> 00:24:12,993 We were gonna grow our own food; we were gonna grow our own staples. 316 00:24:13,702 --> 00:24:16,830 One of the staples of a hippie lifestyle 317 00:24:16,913 --> 00:24:18,498 is marijuana. 318 00:24:18,582 --> 00:24:20,542 So you grow lettuce, you plant a seed of lettuce, 319 00:24:20,625 --> 00:24:21,835 you plant a seed of pot. 320 00:24:25,505 --> 00:24:27,215 We didn't come here to grow weed. 321 00:24:27,632 --> 00:24:32,345 We came here because in our various ways, 322 00:24:32,429 --> 00:24:33,847 we were escaping something. 323 00:24:35,390 --> 00:24:40,353 Some people were escaping a war that had gone on for years. 324 00:24:40,437 --> 00:24:46,359 Some people were returning from that war as veterans who had seen... 325 00:24:47,736 --> 00:24:52,115 whatever ugliness they saw and wanted to escape that. 326 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,661 Some people were running to something. 327 00:24:56,745 --> 00:25:00,707 Some people were running to a lifestyle which was more attractive 328 00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:03,543 than that which was offered by the mainstream society. 329 00:25:08,965 --> 00:25:12,469 The old-timers came here to hide, basically. 330 00:25:13,428 --> 00:25:15,180 This was a place where you could do it. 331 00:25:15,263 --> 00:25:19,559 And the growing was a way to survive. 332 00:25:21,186 --> 00:25:23,939 They didn't come here to plant fields of cannabis. 333 00:25:24,856 --> 00:25:26,358 But it soon turned into that. 334 00:25:29,694 --> 00:25:33,448 I think the reason why Humboldt County became Humboldt County 335 00:25:33,532 --> 00:25:37,869 is because it has these woods and it has these hills. 336 00:25:39,621 --> 00:25:42,624 The advantage that we had over other places in California, 337 00:25:42,707 --> 00:25:46,336 in terms of growing marijuana, is our geographic isolation 338 00:25:46,419 --> 00:25:50,340 and how easy it is to hide your crop from law enforcement. 339 00:25:56,346 --> 00:25:59,015 There's nothing special about the soil in Humboldt County, 340 00:25:59,099 --> 00:26:01,393 the climate here in Humboldt County, you know, 341 00:26:01,476 --> 00:26:06,606 that makes it overall the best place to grow marijuana in the world. 342 00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:08,483 It's just our geography. 343 00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:11,528 That's really what it comes down to, is you can hide. 344 00:26:11,611 --> 00:26:14,614 You can hide in the hills, you can hide behind several locked gates 345 00:26:14,698 --> 00:26:19,578 and private roads under the canopy of the redwood forest, your marijuana. 346 00:26:20,245 --> 00:26:22,998 You get to Humboldt, there's a redwood curtain there at the county line. 347 00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:30,547 The redwood curtain says that you're here, you've arrived. 348 00:26:34,676 --> 00:26:37,470 In the old days, people would come up here and they would... 349 00:26:38,930 --> 00:26:42,142 load up here right here, and they would put a lookout down there, 350 00:26:42,225 --> 00:26:43,727 and one down here. 351 00:26:47,856 --> 00:26:50,108 They would go up this hill on the ranch, 352 00:26:50,191 --> 00:26:53,111 and they would have a better position so they could see everything. 353 00:26:53,194 --> 00:26:56,031 They would be up there with walkie-talkies and the whole thing. 354 00:26:56,114 --> 00:26:59,618 People were so paranoid back then. Oh, God. 355 00:27:00,869 --> 00:27:04,497 You could get ten years or more 356 00:27:05,123 --> 00:27:08,960 just for conspiracy to distribute marijuana. 357 00:27:09,586 --> 00:27:12,380 I don't know if you've ever had one gun pointed at you before. 358 00:27:12,464 --> 00:27:15,175 When you have 20, it's a little unsettling. 359 00:27:19,387 --> 00:27:23,141 I've been under the blades running a lot, 360 00:27:23,224 --> 00:27:25,935 but they could never catch me. 361 00:27:27,687 --> 00:27:33,777 These were people that had lived their whole lives on the outlaw side of the coin 362 00:27:34,402 --> 00:27:40,241 that all of a sudden have been welcomed back into high society, civilization. 363 00:27:44,287 --> 00:27:46,122 They were criminals, straight up. 364 00:27:47,082 --> 00:27:49,209 Now, they want to be law-abiding citizens, 365 00:27:49,292 --> 00:27:52,253 and the state has given them a pathway to do that. 366 00:27:52,337 --> 00:27:54,923 The approval of Prop 64 launches the state 367 00:27:55,006 --> 00:27:57,676 on establishing a system for moving marijuana 368 00:27:57,759 --> 00:28:00,553 from the black market to the retail market. 369 00:28:13,066 --> 00:28:15,068 It's Humboldt; it's the Emerald Triangle. 370 00:28:15,151 --> 00:28:18,613 This is gonna be the new Sonoma County of the pot industry. 371 00:28:19,572 --> 00:28:24,327 You take, like, Napa for instance, and their operation is their region, 372 00:28:24,411 --> 00:28:25,995 and the soil, and the water, 373 00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:28,748 and everything that creates these wonderful grapes. 374 00:28:30,458 --> 00:28:34,254 The marijuana world hasn't really had the opportunity to prove that yet, 375 00:28:34,337 --> 00:28:36,339 just because of being illegal. 376 00:28:37,966 --> 00:28:43,430 This marketing guy told us that the name Humboldt has as much equity 377 00:28:43,513 --> 00:28:45,390 as Coca-Cola or something. 378 00:28:45,473 --> 00:28:47,350 So that made me hopeful. 379 00:28:47,434 --> 00:28:49,936 I thought, well, you know, it certainly means that to me, 380 00:28:50,019 --> 00:28:54,482 so maybe that'll be able to be our ace in the hole. 381 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,694 Just the Humboldt legacy. 382 00:28:59,487 --> 00:29:03,241 We're giving amnesty for people while they come in the permit process. 383 00:29:04,284 --> 00:29:06,494 The state has allowed them to continue to grow, 384 00:29:06,578 --> 00:29:08,288 to go through the permit process, 385 00:29:08,913 --> 00:29:12,542 and start paying their taxes and doing things right. 386 00:29:17,672 --> 00:29:18,548 Spicy. 387 00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:22,051 Going legal, there's a lot we're gaining, 388 00:29:22,135 --> 00:29:23,386 there's a lot that we're losing. 389 00:29:23,470 --> 00:29:25,138 -Look. -That's awesome! 390 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,891 We're gaining freedom from fear... 391 00:29:29,684 --> 00:29:30,602 dignity. 392 00:29:31,144 --> 00:29:32,145 Thanks. 393 00:29:32,645 --> 00:29:33,563 I know. 394 00:29:34,355 --> 00:29:37,275 I have hid in the woods with my children when I was pregnant 395 00:29:37,358 --> 00:29:41,613 while the helicopters totally circled. 396 00:29:42,697 --> 00:29:45,200 Daddy can't-- Daddy said they're probably broken. 397 00:29:46,242 --> 00:29:47,368 What are you losing? 398 00:29:49,329 --> 00:29:51,498 I feel we're gonna lose a little bit of our community, 399 00:29:51,581 --> 00:29:54,000 our sense of what makes Humboldt Humboldt. 400 00:30:00,006 --> 00:30:03,802 This is the last outlaw harvest, yeah. 401 00:30:13,144 --> 00:30:16,022 When it comes down to making a decision whether... 402 00:30:17,732 --> 00:30:23,154 you're going to stop when the lights are flashing behind you, 403 00:30:24,155 --> 00:30:25,406 or if that means go. 404 00:30:27,450 --> 00:30:29,285 An outlaw always chooses go. 405 00:30:34,582 --> 00:30:38,127 People think that a change in the dynamic of the marketplace 406 00:30:38,211 --> 00:30:40,755 that Prop 64 is gonna bring is gonna be able to... 407 00:30:41,589 --> 00:30:45,134 stop the people with that kind of tenacity... 408 00:30:46,135 --> 00:30:50,932 then I don't think they have the slightest clue on what goes on in this county. 409 00:30:59,023 --> 00:31:02,110 Well, since arriving here, I've been shot at, 410 00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:07,282 I've been beaten, I've been kidnapped three times. 411 00:31:08,157 --> 00:31:10,660 Had a gun shoved in my mouth, tied to a chair. 412 00:31:10,743 --> 00:31:12,370 Kicked down a flight of stairs. 413 00:31:12,954 --> 00:31:15,331 Hunted ruthlessly through town. 414 00:31:15,748 --> 00:31:20,545 And... I don't think I'll ever leave. I love it here. 415 00:31:25,967 --> 00:31:31,139 Before I moved out here, I worked in politics in Utah as a campaign manager 416 00:31:31,222 --> 00:31:32,265 and as a lobbyist. 417 00:31:39,022 --> 00:31:40,523 I got burned out on it pretty quick. 418 00:31:45,069 --> 00:31:46,863 I actually came here by accident. 419 00:31:48,948 --> 00:31:51,284 Our car ended up breaking down in Garberville. 420 00:31:51,743 --> 00:31:55,204 And we needed to replace the starter in the Buick. 421 00:31:57,624 --> 00:32:01,961 Got a job at the local Chinese place for... 422 00:32:03,379 --> 00:32:05,298 well, pretty much the first day I was here. 423 00:32:05,381 --> 00:32:06,382 And, uh... 424 00:32:08,426 --> 00:32:10,511 trimming job a couple weeks later. 425 00:32:10,803 --> 00:32:12,805 And the next thing you knew, I was up on the hill. 426 00:32:16,434 --> 00:32:20,897 Up until the '90s, we had your basic hippie growers in the hills. 427 00:32:21,397 --> 00:32:22,565 We had a lot of ranchers. 428 00:32:22,649 --> 00:32:25,318 We still have the timber industry, the fishing industry. 429 00:32:26,027 --> 00:32:29,948 This was a nice, artsy, quaint but industrial town. 430 00:32:31,783 --> 00:32:36,955 But in the '90s, the population of these small communities in the hills went from, 431 00:32:37,038 --> 00:32:39,707 you know, 50, 60 people up to a couple thousand. 432 00:32:44,712 --> 00:32:47,674 We have 4,000 square miles of jurisdiction. 433 00:32:47,757 --> 00:32:50,343 And we have 15,000 illegal grows up here. 434 00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:54,597 It is unbelievable. 435 00:32:56,349 --> 00:32:58,685 Greed has fueled this industry, 436 00:32:59,227 --> 00:33:03,064 and that greed will continue to push people into violence 437 00:33:03,147 --> 00:33:06,651 and to cutting their bottom line wherever they can. 438 00:33:09,529 --> 00:33:13,574 This is not the hippie marijuana industry anymore. 439 00:33:16,494 --> 00:33:21,332 You are taking your life in your own hands if you go up in these areas 440 00:33:21,416 --> 00:33:23,418 and you work for one of these unpermitted growers. 441 00:33:25,753 --> 00:33:28,798 Any underground industry has its seedy side. 442 00:33:28,881 --> 00:33:30,883 That's why they call it the underground. 443 00:33:31,384 --> 00:33:35,054 You have people coming here with this idealistic view 444 00:33:35,138 --> 00:33:37,765 that they're going to make some money for the entire year 445 00:33:37,849 --> 00:33:40,560 by trimming marijuana in Humboldt County. 446 00:33:40,643 --> 00:33:43,062 Well, they're putting themselves at huge risk. 447 00:33:43,146 --> 00:33:45,064 And you could end up dead in a ravine. 448 00:33:45,148 --> 00:33:47,108 And it has happened, and it is happening, 449 00:33:47,191 --> 00:33:51,696 and that's where we need to focus our law enforcement efforts. 450 00:33:52,447 --> 00:33:58,536 We need to figure out how to make this industry more safe 451 00:33:58,619 --> 00:34:00,413 for the people who are involved in it. 452 00:34:00,496 --> 00:34:02,832 And I think legalization will provide that in the end. 453 00:34:05,752 --> 00:34:10,465 This area out in Alderpoint, there's zero police, 454 00:34:10,548 --> 00:34:12,467 there's zero protection. 455 00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:14,844 Everyone's out for themselves. 456 00:34:15,887 --> 00:34:19,515 You're putting up fences, you're having loaded weapons... 457 00:34:19,932 --> 00:34:23,519 um, and you got to feel safe, and that's the only way to do it. 458 00:34:23,603 --> 00:34:27,607 Trinity, Humboldt, Mendocino. 459 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:31,027 Alderpoint is almost literally in the epicenter. 460 00:34:32,028 --> 00:34:34,113 Alderpoint is a very unique area. 461 00:34:34,197 --> 00:34:36,282 So this is an area of southern Humboldt County... 462 00:34:36,365 --> 00:34:37,533 that... 463 00:34:38,326 --> 00:34:42,205 uh, that area, we refer to it as Murder Mountain. 464 00:34:42,872 --> 00:34:46,000 I was working on Murder Mountain 465 00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:48,169 before I ever knew it was called Murder Mountain. 466 00:34:48,878 --> 00:34:51,089 I don't know if you heard that name, Murder Mountain? 467 00:34:51,881 --> 00:34:53,549 I think the name says it all. 468 00:34:54,425 --> 00:34:56,719 Right over that mountain, Murder Mountain. 469 00:34:57,261 --> 00:34:59,013 Go down Bell Springs a ways, 470 00:34:59,597 --> 00:35:03,601 start seeing cars piled up on top of each other three and four high. 471 00:35:03,851 --> 00:35:06,938 All the serial numbers blasted off 'em with a torch. 472 00:35:07,939 --> 00:35:10,066 Who knows where the fucking bodies are at? 473 00:35:31,504 --> 00:35:33,422 Murder Mountain is not a mystery. 474 00:35:33,506 --> 00:35:38,594 You go up there to work in a secluded area and do a risky trade 475 00:35:38,678 --> 00:35:40,221 with risky, shady people, 476 00:35:40,304 --> 00:35:43,057 and a lot of that property's changed hands so many times 477 00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:45,476 because none of the locals want to buy it. 478 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,770 So if you have money and you want to invest in this area, 479 00:35:47,854 --> 00:35:50,690 and you want to grow on it, you look for whatever's available. 480 00:35:50,773 --> 00:35:52,692 A lot of people will go there and buy it, 481 00:35:52,775 --> 00:35:55,778 'cause it's either affordable or it's the only thing on the market. 482 00:35:58,823 --> 00:36:01,701 You want an outlaw community, that's the Alderpoint area. 483 00:36:03,953 --> 00:36:07,373 I helped the sheriff's department with a shooting they had up there, 484 00:36:07,874 --> 00:36:10,334 the investigation a few years ago. 485 00:36:11,043 --> 00:36:14,672 And I had not been up there in that vicinity since the '80s. 486 00:36:15,214 --> 00:36:17,425 And just saw what it had become. 487 00:36:23,764 --> 00:36:28,102 And I went up in a caravan of sheriff's deputies for this investigation, 488 00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:32,732 and in front of our column to the rear of our column I see guys jump out 489 00:36:32,815 --> 00:36:37,195 in Enduro motorcycles with shotguns strapped to their backs. 490 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:45,620 And I start to reach for my sidearm, and the deputy I was with assured me, 491 00:36:45,703 --> 00:36:48,247 "Don't worry about it. That's what they do. 492 00:36:48,706 --> 00:36:50,499 They're just escorting us through the area." 493 00:36:50,583 --> 00:36:52,501 And I thought, "Are you kidding me? 494 00:36:53,586 --> 00:36:57,048 We're the police. What do you mean, they're escorting us?" 495 00:36:58,049 --> 00:37:02,470 They were working security for the marijuana farms there. 496 00:37:05,306 --> 00:37:07,975 It was something else to see that that existed here, 497 00:37:08,059 --> 00:37:10,102 in America, in Humboldt County. 498 00:37:12,313 --> 00:37:13,397 It's their own law up there. 499 00:37:13,481 --> 00:37:15,691 It's their own country, 500 00:37:15,775 --> 00:37:17,693 and they just kinda rule things how they rule 'em, 501 00:37:17,777 --> 00:37:18,861 run 'em how they run 'em. 502 00:37:20,321 --> 00:37:23,199 It's like a surreal Mad Max scenario. 503 00:37:25,326 --> 00:37:29,288 If you don't have protection from the law, you have to be the law. 504 00:37:29,372 --> 00:37:32,375 They have their own forms of justice, 505 00:37:32,458 --> 00:37:35,544 because they live in the backwoods for a reason. 506 00:37:42,635 --> 00:37:45,554 It looks like pretty much everything's just been destroyed. 507 00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:07,410 This was my house. 508 00:38:08,369 --> 00:38:09,412 My cabin. 509 00:38:13,833 --> 00:38:18,170 Looks like what they didn't steal, they just broke. 510 00:38:22,883 --> 00:38:25,386 Couple of guys we hired about two months ago. 511 00:38:26,262 --> 00:38:28,597 I fired 'em, but I didn't think that was a big enough reason 512 00:38:28,681 --> 00:38:30,057 they'd totally fuck my life up. 513 00:38:40,651 --> 00:38:44,071 Yeah, shit's all gone. Cloning room, lights, fans. 514 00:38:44,155 --> 00:38:45,406 Everything. 515 00:38:46,115 --> 00:38:50,911 I don't think we'll be back up and running for probably at least a month. 516 00:38:50,995 --> 00:38:54,790 Maybe two months, which could cost... just about everything. 517 00:39:01,547 --> 00:39:04,342 The peace and love thing kinda went out with the '70s, 518 00:39:04,425 --> 00:39:06,385 and anymore it's... 519 00:39:07,511 --> 00:39:13,142 it's all about the power of the dollar, and pretty much everybody for themselves. 520 00:39:15,144 --> 00:39:18,731 If somebody does you wrong, you need to get 'em back. 521 00:39:23,819 --> 00:39:26,822 It's the last vestige of the Wild West. 522 00:39:32,203 --> 00:39:33,371 -Clear. -Yeah. 523 00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:48,636 Oh, yes. 524 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:50,638 Yes. 525 00:39:54,016 --> 00:39:56,977 We begged Garret not to go to Humboldt. 526 00:39:58,062 --> 00:40:00,106 But there was no talking him out of it. 527 00:40:01,690 --> 00:40:05,986 He had heard about a potential job to make a lot of money... 528 00:40:06,570 --> 00:40:10,241 in what was called Murder Mountain. 529 00:40:15,454 --> 00:40:18,207 I'd first heard the name Murder Mountain 530 00:40:18,290 --> 00:40:22,503 from someone that Garret had communicated with on a regular basis. 531 00:40:23,045 --> 00:40:26,590 And she said that she had already been up there to see him. 532 00:40:26,674 --> 00:40:27,716 She had gone to visit him, 533 00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:34,014 and she said that Garret was in with a really bad crowd, 534 00:40:34,598 --> 00:40:39,145 and they weren't anything like Garret was used to. 535 00:40:39,728 --> 00:40:41,939 She just was warning me. 536 00:40:42,022 --> 00:40:45,734 She was telling me that Garret's in danger. 537 00:40:45,818 --> 00:40:48,988 You know, he has to get out of there as quickly as possible. 538 00:40:50,531 --> 00:40:51,949 Last time I saw Garret, 539 00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:54,493 um... 540 00:40:54,577 --> 00:40:58,456 he had phoned me and said that they needed an SUV, 541 00:40:58,539 --> 00:41:00,332 a four-wheel drive up there. 542 00:41:02,168 --> 00:41:03,711 So we went car lot to car lot. 543 00:41:04,128 --> 00:41:07,256 We finally found one, and the one that he wanted... 544 00:41:07,339 --> 00:41:09,800 I think it was a Dodge Ram. 545 00:41:12,511 --> 00:41:13,596 He got in the truck. 546 00:41:14,054 --> 00:41:18,142 And I left him there at the parking lot. 547 00:41:28,652 --> 00:41:31,030 Another man is believed to be missing 548 00:41:31,113 --> 00:41:33,240 somewhere in the hills of Humboldt County. 549 00:41:34,617 --> 00:41:37,495 Today, the sheriff's office issued a press release 550 00:41:37,578 --> 00:41:39,205 asking for the public's assistance 551 00:41:39,288 --> 00:41:42,416 in finding 29-year-old Garret Rodriguez. 552 00:41:44,084 --> 00:41:48,797 He is reportedly driving a 1998 Dodge Ram pickup truck. 553 00:41:50,883 --> 00:41:53,719 Anyone with information is asked to contact 554 00:41:53,802 --> 00:41:55,763 the Humboldt County Sheriff's Office. 555 00:42:03,229 --> 00:42:05,231 So, you're at your residence. 556 00:42:05,314 --> 00:42:07,316 What do you notice? You said something about... 557 00:42:07,399 --> 00:42:09,610 A bunch of cars, trucks, 558 00:42:09,693 --> 00:42:13,572 motorcycles, and off-road vehicles pass my place. 559 00:42:15,699 --> 00:42:19,703 I stay by myself. I'm an isolationist. 560 00:42:19,787 --> 00:42:20,955 Since Vietnam. 561 00:42:24,375 --> 00:42:28,587 I moved to the Redwoods to get away from civilization. 562 00:42:31,549 --> 00:42:36,637 And I'm in no way involved with the crime. 563 00:42:37,638 --> 00:42:39,139 I'll reiterate. 564 00:42:39,557 --> 00:42:43,769 If you've done nothing wrong there's nothing to worry about. 565 00:42:43,852 --> 00:42:44,687 Okay. 47504

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