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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,607 --> 00:00:02,970 The man this is about, 2 00:00:03,355 --> 00:00:04,448 Erich von Stroheim, 3 00:00:04,568 --> 00:00:05,731 actor and filmmaker, 4 00:00:06,102 --> 00:00:07,906 spent his life creating characters for himself. 5 00:00:08,387 --> 00:00:10,462 Thus it is not useless to enumerate 6 00:00:10,942 --> 00:00:13,128 what posterity retained of him. 7 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:14,651 Here it is: 8 00:00:15,162 --> 00:00:17,528 The Dragoons lieutenant , 9 00:00:20,184 --> 00:00:21,567 the immortal character, 10 00:00:24,302 --> 00:00:25,305 "Herr Direktor", 11 00:00:27,999 --> 00:00:29,202 the eccentric actor, 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,362 the banned 'Caesar'. 13 00:01:42,010 --> 00:01:45,228 Erich von Stroheim lands in America one day in 1909. 14 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,626 A 25 year old immigrant lost in the mass? 15 00:01:49,378 --> 00:01:50,260 Not really. 16 00:01:50,752 --> 00:01:55,533 Sure, like many others, he works hard, he slaves away, but misery doesn't undermine him. 17 00:01:56,625 --> 00:01:59,181 Railway hand, swimming lifeguard, or salesman, 18 00:01:59,602 --> 00:02:02,761 he retains the aristocratic manners and style in-keeping with his rank. 19 00:02:03,281 --> 00:02:04,464 He clicks his heels, 20 00:02:04,754 --> 00:02:09,054 for he is Erich Hans Oswald Karl Maria Von Stroheim, 21 00:02:09,415 --> 00:02:10,508 former cadet, 22 00:02:10,767 --> 00:02:13,383 Dragoons lieutenant in the Imperial army of Austria-Hungary. 23 00:02:16,859 --> 00:02:20,578 In 4 years, the lieutenant's thousand jobs have him cross the continent east to west. 24 00:02:21,300 --> 00:02:23,817 California, Hollywood, cinema... 25 00:02:24,107 --> 00:02:25,961 are at the end of the rainbow, by chance. 26 00:02:29,319 --> 00:02:30,391 In 1914, 27 00:02:30,660 --> 00:02:31,692 Hollywood is just a place. 28 00:02:32,068 --> 00:02:34,030 Progressively peopled by movie pioneers. 29 00:02:35,062 --> 00:02:37,194 The most illustrious of which being 30 00:02:37,635 --> 00:02:38,583 David Wark Griffith. 31 00:02:39,156 --> 00:02:41,485 Whose story the Dragoon Lieutenant is about to become a part of. 32 00:02:43,595 --> 00:02:46,731 Stroheim becomes one of many who people what is referred to as "the pen". 33 00:02:47,407 --> 00:02:51,557 Some sort of paddock, visited every morning by Griffith's assistants, 34 00:02:51,885 --> 00:02:54,749 To recruit, among the wishful crowd, 35 00:02:55,115 --> 00:02:58,787 those who'll have the privilege, for 2 dollars pay, to become extras in the Master's movie. 36 00:03:01,595 --> 00:03:04,515 In his first gig, the Lieutenant becomes a stuntman. 37 00:03:05,239 --> 00:03:07,840 That's him falling off the roof in this scene of Birth of a Nation. 38 00:03:10,371 --> 00:03:11,610 Take a good look at this footage. 39 00:03:11,976 --> 00:03:16,164 It seals Stroheim's union with cinema, till death do them part... 40 00:03:24,148 --> 00:03:25,641 Stroheim does not settle for jobs as an extra. 41 00:03:25,894 --> 00:03:28,553 He puts his knowledge of uniforms and military etiquette to good use, 42 00:03:28,749 --> 00:03:33,951 And becomes technical advisor or assistant to films that deal with the army, or anything teutonic, 43 00:03:34,521 --> 00:03:36,315 Clicking his heels all the way through. 44 00:03:39,529 --> 00:03:44,355 The turning point, however, is the American involvement in World War One. 45 00:03:44,927 --> 00:03:49,810 It takes propaganda films to win the masses to the cause, and that's where Stroheim comes in. 46 00:03:50,528 --> 00:03:53,824 He owes his fame to his roles as a despicable character. 47 00:03:53,944 --> 00:03:56,928 And that's what gave him the idea. 48 00:03:57,048 --> 00:03:59,464 He became "The Man You Love To Hate". 49 00:03:59,811 --> 00:04:02,947 Playing the 'dirty Hun' enabled him to make his image and his face known. 50 00:04:03,228 --> 00:04:07,866 He plays terrible, nurse-raping characters, 51 00:04:07,986 --> 00:04:10,978 stripping them with his teeth, throwing babies out the window, 52 00:04:11,098 --> 00:04:13,476 rolling his eyes... anyway, that's how he becomes known. 53 00:04:17,233 --> 00:04:21,345 What he liked about Griffith was 54 00:04:21,552 --> 00:04:25,871 his noble demeanor. 55 00:04:25,991 --> 00:04:30,005 Griffith was no royalty, but his high-and-mighty profile seduced him. 56 00:04:30,286 --> 00:04:34,006 His panama hats, his style, his behaviour 57 00:04:34,126 --> 00:04:38,089 on a set - it all impressed Stroheim a great deal, who saw 58 00:04:38,209 --> 00:04:42,463 in Griffith, nobility as it could exist 59 00:04:42,583 --> 00:04:46,469 humanly, in America. So he said to himself: "This is what I have to be". 60 00:04:48,892 --> 00:04:53,325 Stroheim immediately saw that this was where power was. Because on a set, the director is in charge. 61 00:04:53,729 --> 00:04:56,517 And that's what he aimed for from the first. 62 00:04:57,454 --> 00:04:59,670 His education was rather discreet, actually, 63 00:04:59,790 --> 00:05:02,750 because a ruler, by definition, knows it all without having to learn it. 64 00:05:02,870 --> 00:05:05,350 So he trained himself by looking over a lot of people's shoulders. 65 00:05:06,184 --> 00:05:09,339 Just because you're there only to sweep the set doesn't mean you 66 00:05:09,459 --> 00:05:12,475 can't watch who does what, how this is done or where that goes, and so on. 67 00:05:12,595 --> 00:05:14,861 Basically he learned his trade by watching a lot of what was going on. 68 00:05:15,098 --> 00:05:17,079 At once, Stroheim wanted to do it all. 69 00:05:17,314 --> 00:05:20,675 He wanted to write, to direct, to act, he wanted to do it all. 70 00:05:20,795 --> 00:05:23,117 He wanted his films to be his own. 71 00:05:24,330 --> 00:05:27,607 In 1919, Stroheim takes the bull by the horns. 72 00:05:27,973 --> 00:05:30,349 He's written a script he wants to direct himself. 73 00:05:30,854 --> 00:05:33,332 He only has to convince one man: Carl Laemmle, 74 00:05:33,452 --> 00:05:35,756 the almighty founder of Universal Studios. 75 00:05:36,432 --> 00:05:39,981 An hour-long face to face conversation does the trick. It all happens in German. 76 00:05:40,219 --> 00:05:43,994 Stroheim relinquishes all rights on the script, against the promise of a minimum budget allowance to film it. 77 00:05:44,303 --> 00:05:45,721 And for 200 dollars a week, 78 00:05:45,841 --> 00:05:49,249 he takes on the job of director and lead actor. 79 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:53,847 Putting yourself in Laemmle's shoes you'd think: "Well, 80 00:05:54,473 --> 00:05:57,676 This young man has a project. It's a tossup, but in the end, 81 00:05:57,796 --> 00:06:00,999 I don't have much to lose, and it might be worth a try. 82 00:06:01,119 --> 00:06:02,510 Laemmle was a gambler, too. 83 00:06:02,885 --> 00:06:06,997 Also, they were both of Mittel-European Origin. 84 00:06:07,117 --> 00:06:12,986 That's where the film is set, and that rings a bell to Laemmle as well, 85 00:06:13,106 --> 00:06:14,590 who was sensitive about his origins. 86 00:06:14,710 --> 00:06:17,961 So I guess all these elements weighed on Laemmle's decision, 87 00:06:18,081 --> 00:06:20,787 and accounted for his decision to trust Stroheim. 88 00:06:26,130 --> 00:06:27,848 "Blind Husbands" is hardly a screen-test. 89 00:06:28,064 --> 00:06:30,196 Stroheim doesn't fumble. He asserts. 90 00:06:30,826 --> 00:06:32,929 His work methods are grueling and despotic. 91 00:06:33,380 --> 00:06:35,624 He screams, he scolds, he rewards, 92 00:06:35,744 --> 00:06:37,405 and swears like a sailor. 93 00:06:37,940 --> 00:06:41,396 But his crew soon realizes that this very teutonic energy serves the film. 94 00:06:42,743 --> 00:06:46,518 For all the qualities that will blossom and become his trademark in the masterpieces to come, 95 00:06:46,638 --> 00:06:47,288 Are there already. 96 00:06:48,746 --> 00:06:52,971 Realism, actor's direction, the emphasis on "decoupage" over "montage" (?) (editing) 97 00:06:53,091 --> 00:06:54,699 Taste and use of the sets. 98 00:06:55,438 --> 00:06:59,138 And although he keeps it all rather classical, his style already breaks from that of his revered master. 99 00:06:59,545 --> 00:07:02,607 How did he evolve from Griffith's cinema to his own? 100 00:07:02,727 --> 00:07:06,212 For they don't have the same culture, 101 00:07:06,332 --> 00:07:08,408 They don't have the same past. 102 00:07:09,408 --> 00:07:11,567 But there is 103 00:07:11,687 --> 00:07:15,553 A common point, where grandiose is concerned. 104 00:07:15,673 --> 00:07:18,795 Because Stroheim loves to set up splendor. 105 00:07:18,915 --> 00:07:22,128 Griffith did the Babylonian era... 106 00:07:22,248 --> 00:07:25,753 Stroheim sets his ceremonies in St-Stephen's Cathedral in Vienna. 107 00:07:27,011 --> 00:07:28,870 These are two different forms of realism. 108 00:07:29,679 --> 00:07:32,506 They are both in the melodrama, in a way, 109 00:07:32,862 --> 00:07:35,829 But I'd say that Stroheim 110 00:07:36,673 --> 00:07:38,147 Is more 111 00:07:40,056 --> 00:07:43,390 Credible in his realism... 112 00:07:43,510 --> 00:07:47,344 He's also much more of a Mittel-European, but then, how do you define that.... 113 00:07:47,464 --> 00:07:49,619 It's complicated, because he... 114 00:07:49,948 --> 00:07:54,774 He captures the sordid, he.... He's more into the intimate, in fact. 115 00:08:12,037 --> 00:08:15,342 There are a lot of things Griffith would never have allowed himself to delve into. 116 00:08:15,462 --> 00:08:18,944 In fact Stroheim goes a lot further with everything that has to do with sexuality. 117 00:08:19,064 --> 00:08:21,967 Undeniably, Stroheim went for the shock value. 118 00:08:22,164 --> 00:08:25,611 He shocked profoundly because he brought about a revolution 119 00:08:25,871 --> 00:08:27,872 In his depiction of sexuality, 120 00:08:28,079 --> 00:08:32,060 And I think that this is a fundamental difference from everything that preceded him, 121 00:08:32,180 --> 00:08:34,745 And what was it that preceded him? There's Griffith, 122 00:08:35,377 --> 00:08:37,077 Who is after all a 19th Century man, 123 00:08:37,311 --> 00:08:39,734 There's Dickens, the spirit of Dickens, 124 00:08:39,854 --> 00:08:42,955 The pure maidens and all that, who, actually, also exist in Stroheim's world. 125 00:08:43,075 --> 00:08:45,524 But it's still Griffith.... 126 00:08:45,777 --> 00:08:49,487 As Stroheim says: "At the end of a Griffith movie..." 127 00:08:49,781 --> 00:08:54,288 "They marry and live happily ever after - and to me, that's where the film begins" 128 00:08:54,408 --> 00:08:59,424 i.e., the consequences of marriage, and not marriage as a happy ending... 129 00:08:59,544 --> 00:09:05,596 He said he found it surprising that people were allowed to attack banks in the movies 130 00:09:05,874 --> 00:09:08,804 But they were not allowed to desire a woman, which, indeed, at the time, was not acceptable. 131 00:09:09,114 --> 00:09:11,387 And so THAT was what Stroheim filmed. 132 00:09:16,358 --> 00:09:19,344 The critics love "Blind Husbands", and the public flocks to see it. 133 00:09:19,464 --> 00:09:21,128 The film is a huge commercial success. 134 00:09:22,245 --> 00:09:26,226 Laemmle's not sorry about his gamble and produces Stroheim's second film, 135 00:09:26,346 --> 00:09:28,804 "The Devil's Passkey", also a great commercial success, 136 00:09:29,044 --> 00:09:30,811 but of which there are no extant copies today. 137 00:09:33,432 --> 00:09:35,017 Laemmle now only swears by his newfound genius, 138 00:09:35,215 --> 00:09:37,306 And for the next movie, he gives him "carte blanche". 139 00:09:38,409 --> 00:09:40,413 Stroheim is given free rein to choose his story, 140 00:09:40,533 --> 00:09:42,540 His script, his cast & crew. 141 00:09:42,660 --> 00:09:44,073 And he has an unlimited budget. 142 00:09:44,505 --> 00:09:46,655 Erich von Stroheim, former Dragoons Lieutenant, 143 00:09:46,775 --> 00:09:48,458 has become "Herr Direktor". 144 00:10:02,386 --> 00:10:04,076 "Foolish Wives" is his first masterpiece. 145 00:10:04,386 --> 00:10:06,048 'Herr Direktor' spared no expense. 146 00:10:06,168 --> 00:10:07,973 And even though censors cut out a great deal from the film, 147 00:10:08,217 --> 00:10:10,790 They were unable to extinguish its poisonous charm. 148 00:10:11,527 --> 00:10:14,193 Stroheim shows European crooks that are morally repugnant, 149 00:10:14,313 --> 00:10:15,593 but extremely attractive. 150 00:10:15,925 --> 00:10:18,732 Their luxury, their manners, their frivolity. 151 00:10:19,108 --> 00:10:21,690 Their loose morals, their sophistication, 152 00:10:22,075 --> 00:10:24,188 are in opposition with the simplicity of Americans, 153 00:10:24,308 --> 00:10:27,355 Straightforward, well-meaning, clumsy. 154 00:10:33,297 --> 00:10:36,650 Stroheim confronts these characters within so fascinating a Monte-Carlo, 155 00:10:36,866 --> 00:10:40,002 So realistic, that Jean Renoir, discovering the film in Paris, 156 00:10:40,368 --> 00:10:42,640 concludes that it was the real Monte-Carlo that was wrong. 157 00:10:43,744 --> 00:10:46,533 There's something very interesting in "Foolish Wives", I think... 158 00:10:46,653 --> 00:10:49,688 And it is that Stroheim plays with what HE is all about. 159 00:10:49,808 --> 00:10:54,250 Like a virtuoso joggler, because... 160 00:10:54,370 --> 00:10:57,281 The main theme of his film is "the fake". 161 00:10:57,525 --> 00:11:01,901 He makes a film in which there's a fake Russian count, fake princesses, fake money... 162 00:11:02,021 --> 00:11:05,788 Fake feelings... It takes place in Monaco, a city in which one's earnings 163 00:11:05,908 --> 00:11:08,762 are fake - where everything is fake. 164 00:11:09,672 --> 00:11:14,452 And nobody notices that he is denouncing what he is and the world he lives in. 165 00:11:15,314 --> 00:11:17,615 It took 'Herr Direktor' almost a year to shoot his film. 166 00:11:18,197 --> 00:11:21,400 His demands are boundless, and meet none. 167 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:26,219 The Monte-Carlo casino is entirely rebuilt in Monterey, near San Francisco, 168 00:11:26,547 --> 00:11:27,956 300 miles away from Hollywood. 169 00:11:28,390 --> 00:11:31,067 Armies of carpenters, masons, plasterers, 170 00:11:31,187 --> 00:11:32,437 work on it for months. 171 00:11:33,248 --> 00:11:36,628 Stroheim also demands that the buildings windows be made of real glass, 172 00:11:36,748 --> 00:11:39,567 instead of wire netting, so that they may be lit at night, 173 00:11:39,687 --> 00:11:40,900 and that they can be opened. 174 00:11:41,449 --> 00:11:44,219 He also wants the hotel bells to ring for real. 175 00:11:45,903 --> 00:11:48,607 It's a silent film, but he has bells 176 00:11:48,908 --> 00:11:50,729 set up in the ceilings 177 00:11:52,359 --> 00:11:54,321 to page the servants. 178 00:11:54,575 --> 00:11:57,420 Seems absurd... why bother? For a silent film? 179 00:11:57,540 --> 00:11:58,885 But it's really out of concern for realism. 180 00:11:59,110 --> 00:12:02,284 To give the actors the feeling that... 181 00:12:02,692 --> 00:12:05,208 Well, as far as they were concerned, they were in a talking picture, 182 00:12:05,328 --> 00:12:07,959 While performing on the set of 'Foolish Wives'. 183 00:12:08,166 --> 00:12:11,603 So you heard the bells because 184 00:12:11,723 --> 00:12:16,196 some bellboy or other was being paged. 185 00:12:18,007 --> 00:12:20,542 In Stroheim's case, the scenery 186 00:12:20,899 --> 00:12:22,673 is of pivotal importance. 187 00:12:22,793 --> 00:12:24,214 As if he came from the theatre. 188 00:12:24,334 --> 00:12:26,213 Because very often, the directors who are known for their elaborate sets, 189 00:12:26,333 --> 00:12:27,847 Like Welles, Losey, 190 00:12:28,198 --> 00:12:31,945 Or Visconti... they are people who come from the theatre. 191 00:12:32,193 --> 00:12:35,667 A man like Kubrick... his obsession 192 00:12:36,135 --> 00:12:39,910 for accuracy and maniacal precision 193 00:12:40,236 --> 00:12:42,800 echoes that of Stroheim. 194 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,843 Including where extravagant budgets are concerned. 195 00:12:45,963 --> 00:12:48,612 The recreation of the hotel for 'The Shining', for example. 196 00:12:48,732 --> 00:12:50,010 It was in Colorado. 197 00:12:50,130 --> 00:12:53,869 He had it rebuilt completely 198 00:12:54,188 --> 00:12:56,207 in studios near London. 199 00:12:56,327 --> 00:12:58,937 That's really very Stroheimian. 200 00:13:01,697 --> 00:13:04,599 Inevitably, the budget for 'Foolish Wives' is blown out of all proportion. 201 00:13:05,164 --> 00:13:07,888 To the extent that Universal decides to advertize it, 202 00:13:08,292 --> 00:13:10,939 Giving the film its famous tagline: "The First Million Dollar Picture". 203 00:13:14,310 --> 00:13:16,686 Stroheim's extravagances are publicized, 204 00:13:16,949 --> 00:13:19,315 exaggerated, and, if need be, made up. 205 00:13:34,130 --> 00:13:35,632 Stroheim's actors are true, 206 00:13:35,998 --> 00:13:38,083 even when the characters are over the top. 207 00:13:38,612 --> 00:13:41,288 Stroheim wants, and obtains, that their gestures, 208 00:13:41,550 --> 00:13:43,616 their gaze, their gait, 209 00:13:43,736 --> 00:13:45,673 the way they pass each other, be credible. 210 00:13:46,643 --> 00:13:48,924 Whether they are surrounded by dozens of extras, like in this scene, 211 00:13:49,281 --> 00:13:52,465 Or alone, facing the camera, in a single shot, 212 00:13:52,755 --> 00:13:55,600 like Dale Fuller, possessed here with homicidal jalousy. 213 00:14:10,710 --> 00:14:13,387 It's true that Stroheim instantly knows how to direct his actors. 214 00:14:13,507 --> 00:14:16,279 Stroheim has always used 215 00:14:16,399 --> 00:14:19,031 - and I say "used" without any negative connotations - 216 00:14:19,241 --> 00:14:21,804 actors who were not famous. 217 00:14:21,924 --> 00:14:24,208 He favoured unknown actors, 218 00:14:24,407 --> 00:14:26,877 so that he could shape them himself. 219 00:14:26,997 --> 00:14:28,576 He had two methods: 220 00:14:28,696 --> 00:14:32,041 Either he didn't say anything and had them go through retake after retake after retake, 221 00:14:32,378 --> 00:14:34,567 And when I say "retakes"... 222 00:14:37,425 --> 00:14:39,913 Generally, what could be considered reasonable would be five takes or so. 223 00:14:40,579 --> 00:14:42,635 For Stroheim, 20 or 30 takes per scene would be the norm. 224 00:14:42,755 --> 00:14:45,028 And what's more, he often retook it 225 00:14:45,148 --> 00:14:46,794 without so much as giving his actors a clue on what he expected from them. 226 00:14:46,914 --> 00:14:50,268 He just made retake after retake, without any indication whatsoever, 227 00:14:50,388 --> 00:14:52,194 between the takes. 228 00:14:52,314 --> 00:14:55,200 His directorial methods were also very tyrannical. 229 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,106 He was extremely demanding, 230 00:14:57,377 --> 00:14:59,246 not unlike Kubrick in this respect. 231 00:14:59,518 --> 00:15:01,096 He put his actors through terrible ordeals, 232 00:15:01,216 --> 00:15:03,418 All he retakes and so on, 233 00:15:03,737 --> 00:15:06,235 Putting them in Death Valley 234 00:15:06,355 --> 00:15:07,333 for the end scene of 'Greed', 235 00:15:07,722 --> 00:15:10,727 Without any water, in terrible conditions, in order to really 236 00:15:10,847 --> 00:15:14,341 get that realism he was looking for. 237 00:15:15,657 --> 00:15:19,001 Or he would have them live on the very sets, 238 00:15:19,930 --> 00:15:21,442 On Polk Street, 239 00:15:21,562 --> 00:15:23,780 in the filthy digs... 240 00:15:23,995 --> 00:15:26,089 Despite all that, the actors loved him 241 00:15:26,427 --> 00:15:28,511 Because they realized that he was getting the best out of them, 242 00:15:28,852 --> 00:15:31,960 and that all these constraints, all these efforts yielded results. 243 00:15:34,588 --> 00:15:35,565 Since 'Blind Husbands', 244 00:15:35,997 --> 00:15:37,621 Stroheim surrounded himself with loyal cast & crew members: 245 00:15:37,969 --> 00:15:40,542 Actors, seasoned technicians, 246 00:15:40,823 --> 00:15:44,165 and rankless minions, all of whom constituted his 'Pretorian Guard'. 247 00:15:46,831 --> 00:15:49,244 Among the actors were Dale Fuller 248 00:15:49,892 --> 00:15:51,085 And Cesare Gravina, 249 00:15:51,348 --> 00:15:52,662 Who were cast in almost every one of his films. 250 00:15:55,723 --> 00:15:57,094 There is also Gibson Gowland, 251 00:15:57,752 --> 00:15:59,151 who played Sepp in 'Blind Husbands', 252 00:15:59,433 --> 00:16:01,105 and McTeague in 'Greed'. 253 00:16:06,669 --> 00:16:09,439 And then there's ZaSu Pitts. The Great ZaSu Pitts, 254 00:16:09,946 --> 00:16:10,866 who becomes after 'Greed' 255 00:16:11,242 --> 00:16:14,218 the forced and unloved bride in 'The Wedding March'. 256 00:16:15,362 --> 00:16:18,573 Also worth mentioning is the duo formed by Will Daniels and Ben Reynolds, 257 00:16:18,892 --> 00:16:20,507 who photographed 6 out of his 10 films. 258 00:16:20,990 --> 00:16:23,919 And Richard Day, Hollywood's most exacting art director, 259 00:16:24,267 --> 00:16:25,544 contributed to even more. 260 00:16:26,004 --> 00:16:28,041 There are two types of creators in the movies. 261 00:16:28,161 --> 00:16:30,661 There are those who change collaborators all the time, 262 00:16:30,970 --> 00:16:33,252 and those who like to have a company, 263 00:16:33,550 --> 00:16:35,803 the most obvious example being Bergman, 264 00:16:36,911 --> 00:16:38,169 And Griffith, as well. 265 00:16:38,289 --> 00:16:39,888 And in my opinion he takes after Griffith in this respect. 266 00:16:40,388 --> 00:16:41,703 I think he wanted a company.... 267 00:16:41,823 --> 00:16:43,798 Which, for one thing, proves that his actors loved him, 268 00:16:43,918 --> 00:16:45,610 since they appeared several times 269 00:16:45,910 --> 00:16:47,441 in his films, 270 00:16:47,561 --> 00:16:49,664 And also because the kind of movies he made 271 00:16:50,481 --> 00:16:53,420 Could get him in trouble with the producers, 272 00:16:53,617 --> 00:16:55,711 He had to have a trustworthy, 273 00:16:55,831 --> 00:16:57,100 homogeneous company around him, 274 00:16:57,300 --> 00:16:58,709 who would be on his side. 275 00:16:58,829 --> 00:17:00,587 He couldn't afford to be betrayed 276 00:17:00,707 --> 00:17:02,634 by co-workers who could 277 00:17:03,444 --> 00:17:04,459 takes sides with.... 278 00:17:04,579 --> 00:17:06,328 So when he gained people's trust, 279 00:17:07,735 --> 00:17:09,388 He wanted to retain them. 280 00:17:09,602 --> 00:17:12,588 After 'Foolish Wives' came 'Merry Go Round'. 281 00:17:12,898 --> 00:17:14,100 A film from which Stroheim was fired. 282 00:17:15,526 --> 00:17:16,700 But we'll come back to it later. 283 00:17:16,906 --> 00:17:20,437 For time has come to speak of the film that gave the former Dragoon Lieutenant 284 00:17:21,042 --> 00:17:22,159 His share of immortality. 285 00:17:22,853 --> 00:17:23,501 The cursed, 286 00:17:23,970 --> 00:17:24,750 the imperishable, 287 00:17:24,994 --> 00:17:25,633 the mutilated... 288 00:17:27,511 --> 00:17:27,943 'Greed'. 289 00:17:31,616 --> 00:17:34,123 'Greed' as we know it, the film-library classic, 290 00:17:34,333 --> 00:17:36,802 the film that dazzled Eisenstein, Bunuel and Cocteau, 291 00:17:37,178 --> 00:17:39,741 is but the pale shadow of the film made by Stroheim. 292 00:17:40,885 --> 00:17:41,665 Rex Ingram, 293 00:17:41,956 --> 00:17:43,918 who directed 'The Four Horsemen of The Apocalypse', 294 00:17:44,038 --> 00:17:44,904 and a friend of Stroheim's, 295 00:17:45,130 --> 00:17:47,497 cut the film down, upon Stroheim's request, to a 3:30 hour long version. 296 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,256 Ingram delivered his version warning him that 297 00:17:50,481 --> 00:17:53,242 "If you cut out another inch, I'll never speak to you again". 298 00:17:56,329 --> 00:17:56,930 But that was in vain. 299 00:17:57,355 --> 00:17:59,459 Irving Thalberg ordered his editor 300 00:17:59,825 --> 00:18:02,642 to cut the film down to the two-hour long version we know and love, 301 00:18:02,980 --> 00:18:04,247 and which Stroheim disowned. 302 00:18:06,842 --> 00:18:08,382 What was lost from 'Greed' 303 00:18:08,502 --> 00:18:09,725 - the great mine scenes, 304 00:18:09,845 --> 00:18:13,143 the subplot involving the old couple who live in Trina & McTeague's building - 305 00:18:13,743 --> 00:18:15,414 remains in the form of set stills, 306 00:18:15,780 --> 00:18:17,621 inert and evocative. 307 00:18:19,272 --> 00:18:22,239 Reduced to its main plot, badly distributed, 308 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,535 'Greed' turns out to be an abyssal financial flop. 309 00:18:25,258 --> 00:18:27,897 A film on the corruptive power of money, 310 00:18:28,394 --> 00:18:30,198 'Greed' was the source of a massive financial loss to its producers. 311 00:18:30,906 --> 00:18:31,686 And yet, 312 00:18:31,892 --> 00:18:34,540 Everyone knows that the reasons that make 'Greed' a cursed film 313 00:18:34,756 --> 00:18:35,507 lay elsewhere. 314 00:18:35,910 --> 00:18:38,145 'Greed' was, to begin with, 315 00:18:38,265 --> 00:18:40,389 rejected by the popular press, 316 00:18:41,074 --> 00:18:43,656 who were outraged by the film. Truly outraged, 317 00:18:43,776 --> 00:18:46,437 while at the same time being supported by art lovers, 318 00:18:46,557 --> 00:18:49,057 by critics and other filmmakers. 319 00:18:52,999 --> 00:18:56,999 The problem is that, besides 'Greed', which is set in the United States, 320 00:18:57,328 --> 00:18:58,915 All of Stroheim's films are set in Europe. 321 00:18:59,115 --> 00:19:01,340 And the fact that they are set in Europe, as costume dramas, 322 00:19:01,460 --> 00:19:05,040 Either in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, or in fictional countries, 323 00:19:05,246 --> 00:19:09,228 Like Ruritania or Monte-Bianco, in 'The Merry Widow', 324 00:19:09,348 --> 00:19:11,680 Or 'Queen Kelly''s Ruritania, 325 00:19:12,402 --> 00:19:14,750 Made the pill easier to swallow, because to the American public, 326 00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:16,750 The immoral behaviour that was under scrutiny was not American. 327 00:19:16,870 --> 00:19:18,422 It was all transposed... 328 00:19:18,542 --> 00:19:19,915 It was Old World decadence. 329 00:19:20,035 --> 00:19:21,838 The Europe of sexual debauchery, 330 00:19:21,958 --> 00:19:25,444 the Europe of the idle rich, 331 00:19:25,564 --> 00:19:27,717 of corrupt aristocracy, 332 00:19:28,375 --> 00:19:32,093 All this in contrast to the puritan ethics praising work for the sake of work. 333 00:19:32,316 --> 00:19:34,016 So the foreign setting 334 00:19:34,994 --> 00:19:37,782 sort of softened the shock 335 00:19:37,902 --> 00:19:40,477 it could have provoked if he had set the same story 336 00:19:40,597 --> 00:19:43,294 and characters in the American society. 337 00:19:43,414 --> 00:19:47,344 Hence the public's violent rejection of 'Greed', 338 00:19:47,607 --> 00:19:49,456 Because, this time, it was about America. 339 00:19:52,290 --> 00:19:53,924 He is a naturalist. 340 00:19:55,501 --> 00:19:58,422 Which means that he is really a man of his era. 341 00:19:58,542 --> 00:19:59,946 The difference being that 342 00:20:00,265 --> 00:20:02,143 what was commonplace in literature, 343 00:20:02,444 --> 00:20:04,500 was absolutely exceptional in cinema. 344 00:20:04,826 --> 00:20:06,845 The quest for truth, 345 00:20:06,965 --> 00:20:09,240 the quest for the genuine, 346 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:11,324 for the truthful impression, 347 00:20:11,534 --> 00:20:15,374 this aspiration to get rid of all pretence, 348 00:20:15,494 --> 00:20:16,895 to get rid of all the trickery, 349 00:20:17,015 --> 00:20:18,962 that was what the great novelists aimed for, 350 00:20:19,331 --> 00:20:20,702 ever since Balzac, Flaubert, 351 00:20:20,822 --> 00:20:24,138 Zola being the culmination, as one shifts from realism to naturalism, 352 00:20:25,067 --> 00:20:27,658 and in a way, that's what Stroheim attempted to do. 353 00:20:29,543 --> 00:20:32,848 The whole corporeal aspect of 'Greed', 354 00:20:32,968 --> 00:20:35,628 the physiological approach, 355 00:20:35,997 --> 00:20:39,481 eating, gorging oneself, 356 00:20:40,843 --> 00:20:42,383 it's all part of life. 357 00:20:42,592 --> 00:20:44,940 To Stroheim, that's part of life, so he shows it. 358 00:20:45,060 --> 00:20:47,634 He wants to show life as it is. Again, 359 00:20:47,754 --> 00:20:50,709 This insistance on asserting 360 00:20:50,829 --> 00:20:52,324 the importance of the real. 361 00:20:52,444 --> 00:20:55,058 He is against all edulcoration. 362 00:20:55,546 --> 00:20:57,293 And from there on, 363 00:20:58,307 --> 00:21:00,091 Man is an animal also, 364 00:21:01,038 --> 00:21:02,559 He is not ONLY an animal, but he is ALSO an animal, 365 00:21:02,679 --> 00:21:04,831 So his animalistic urges are shown. 366 00:21:05,639 --> 00:21:08,230 Had he been allowed to, Stroheim would have shown 367 00:21:08,350 --> 00:21:10,662 copulation. 368 00:21:10,905 --> 00:21:13,497 He would have done it artfully, but he would have shown 369 00:21:13,693 --> 00:21:16,181 things that could have shocked people, 370 00:21:16,301 --> 00:21:19,129 things that you can show today, but that you couldn't show back then. 371 00:21:25,732 --> 00:21:28,492 Stretching over seven months, the shooting of 'Greed' was epic. 372 00:21:29,220 --> 00:21:32,036 The scenes shot in the Valley of Death 373 00:21:32,271 --> 00:21:33,464 Were also the film's end scenes. 374 00:21:34,124 --> 00:21:36,894 A 37 day purgatory for the 41 crew members, 375 00:21:37,014 --> 00:21:38,743 14 of whom had to be brought back to civilization. 376 00:21:40,892 --> 00:21:44,255 'Herr Direktor' seemed to adapt to the scorching heat better than everyone else, 377 00:21:44,649 --> 00:21:47,513 And managed to bring his little crowd exactly where he wanted. 378 00:21:48,416 --> 00:21:51,346 What's more, it's August, so he just happens to be shooting this during the hottest month. 379 00:21:51,466 --> 00:21:53,074 The ground, legend has it, 380 00:21:53,345 --> 00:21:56,509 When you rub your body on the ground - and their skin was burnt by the sun by then - 381 00:21:56,629 --> 00:22:00,301 So they had blisters, and the blisters burst when in contact with the ground. 382 00:22:00,421 --> 00:22:04,142 The ground, itself, is littered with substances that make it burn, 383 00:22:04,262 --> 00:22:07,188 When the skin comes in contact with it. 384 00:22:07,308 --> 00:22:09,272 So these are the conditions in which the two actors have to wrestle in the scene. 385 00:22:09,392 --> 00:22:11,620 And Stroheim tells them: 386 00:22:11,969 --> 00:22:13,922 (These are the ultimate moments) And he tells them: 387 00:22:14,042 --> 00:22:18,044 "Fight! Try to hate each other as much as you both hate me!" 388 00:22:18,164 --> 00:22:19,921 And the fight he got was indeed realistic. 389 00:22:24,582 --> 00:22:27,428 Stroheim created his characters in a very special way. 390 00:22:27,663 --> 00:22:30,057 When there was someone who had to appear on screen, 391 00:22:30,177 --> 00:22:33,099 He needed, for this person to have a genuine existence, 392 00:22:33,219 --> 00:22:35,768 To invent his or her complete biography. 393 00:22:35,964 --> 00:22:40,264 Screenwriters who worked with him attested to this. 394 00:22:40,384 --> 00:22:43,034 They said: "I saw Stroheim come up with 395 00:22:43,154 --> 00:22:47,267 This young girl's mother, her past, her childhood, her youth 396 00:22:47,387 --> 00:22:48,032 - That of the mother! - 397 00:22:48,152 --> 00:22:50,989 Even though that character was never even to appear on screen". 398 00:22:51,186 --> 00:22:54,594 He needed to come up with the day of her communion, 399 00:22:54,714 --> 00:22:56,753 The disease that struck her at this or that age, 400 00:22:56,873 --> 00:23:00,368 All of which enabled him to set his characters on solid ground. 401 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,098 After the extravagances of 'Foolish Wives' and being fired from 'Merry Go Round', 402 00:23:06,462 --> 00:23:11,027 The failure of 'Greed' gives Stroheim's reputation a detestable reek among producers. 403 00:23:11,724 --> 00:23:14,202 Among them Thalberg, who has been mentioned already, 404 00:23:14,322 --> 00:23:15,986 and whose path crossed his several times before. 405 00:23:16,371 --> 00:23:18,259 So much so that the story of their infernal relationship 406 00:23:18,379 --> 00:23:20,108 Long served as the exemplary fable 407 00:23:20,228 --> 00:23:22,907 For all those who saw in it the triumph of the grocer over the artist. 408 00:23:24,468 --> 00:23:27,463 The Stroheim / Thalberg relationship is particular. 409 00:23:27,773 --> 00:23:29,848 Stroheim and Thalberg met 410 00:23:30,090 --> 00:23:31,894 during 'Foolish Wives'. 411 00:23:32,316 --> 00:23:33,969 Stroheim was shooting 'Foolish Wives'. 412 00:23:34,089 --> 00:23:36,898 And halfway through arrives Thalberg, 413 00:23:37,018 --> 00:23:39,756 Dropping in from nowhere thanks to Laemmle, who trusts him. 414 00:23:39,953 --> 00:23:43,568 And it dawns on Thalberg that this project is beginning to be costly. 415 00:23:43,688 --> 00:23:47,050 Running overboard both where the deadline and the budget are concerned. 416 00:23:47,170 --> 00:23:50,063 Thalberg summons Stroheim, who replies: 417 00:23:50,183 --> 00:23:53,839 "If you fire the director, you fire the lead actor as well". 418 00:23:54,067 --> 00:23:58,414 And since he has started shooting the film with the scenes involving his character, 419 00:23:58,534 --> 00:24:00,245 There's nothing Thalberg can do. 420 00:24:00,501 --> 00:24:04,520 So much for controlling Stroheim on 'Foolish Wives'. 421 00:24:04,782 --> 00:24:07,477 Then comes the next film, 422 00:24:07,597 --> 00:24:09,204 'Merry Go Round'. 423 00:24:09,420 --> 00:24:11,842 On 'Merry Go Round', Thalberg is suspicious. 424 00:24:11,962 --> 00:24:14,903 Thalberg, by then, was made head of production by Laemmle, 425 00:24:15,023 --> 00:24:18,199 And he says to himself: "I have to watch over that Stroheim fellow 426 00:24:18,319 --> 00:24:21,548 Or else he's gonna explode budget and deadline all over again". 427 00:24:21,668 --> 00:24:26,102 So he sets up a system involving a Director of Unit Production, 428 00:24:26,222 --> 00:24:29,236 Some guy called Hum. 429 00:24:30,591 --> 00:24:33,511 So this guy is supposed to 430 00:24:33,631 --> 00:24:38,649 Watch over the proceedings and report everything to Thalberg. 431 00:24:39,055 --> 00:24:41,938 Stroheim is incensed by the idea, 432 00:24:42,058 --> 00:24:44,839 He dislikes the guy from the get-go, 433 00:24:46,296 --> 00:24:49,808 He schemes to have the rest of the crew dislike him as well, 434 00:24:50,005 --> 00:24:53,433 And basically, he stalls while the guy is around, and as soon as he leaves, 435 00:24:53,553 --> 00:24:55,751 he says: "we can get to work now that the spy is gone". 436 00:24:55,871 --> 00:24:57,770 "Now let's really get down to it". 437 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,557 He plays rotten tricks on him... 438 00:24:59,677 --> 00:25:00,769 Rotten indeed. 439 00:25:01,031 --> 00:25:03,078 So much so that Thalberg, who hasn't even turned 22 yet, 440 00:25:03,332 --> 00:25:04,722 but who mesmerized Carl Laemmle, 441 00:25:05,031 --> 00:25:06,816 takes a historical and definitive decision: 442 00:25:07,162 --> 00:25:08,288 He fires Stroheim. 443 00:25:08,922 --> 00:25:09,861 A self-effacing craftsman, 444 00:25:10,199 --> 00:25:13,954 Rupert Julian, finished the film instead. "Herr Direktor" disowned it. 445 00:25:15,435 --> 00:25:16,768 Then came 'Greed', 446 00:25:17,078 --> 00:25:19,614 For which Stroheim signed with Samuel Goldwyn's company. 447 00:25:20,713 --> 00:25:24,093 During shooting, it was bought and absorbed by Metro 448 00:25:24,213 --> 00:25:26,772 and Louis B. Mayer, to form MGM. 449 00:25:27,667 --> 00:25:28,991 And thus Thalberg, 450 00:25:29,196 --> 00:25:30,398 Fresh off Universal, 451 00:25:30,745 --> 00:25:32,726 and Executive Director of the new company, 452 00:25:32,961 --> 00:25:35,759 was able to order and commission the butchering of 'Greed'. 453 00:25:36,820 --> 00:25:39,637 Stroheim's contract with Goldwyn covered two motion pictures, 454 00:25:39,757 --> 00:25:41,826 and it was again under Thalberg's close supervision 455 00:25:42,051 --> 00:25:43,873 that he started working on the next feature: 456 00:25:44,260 --> 00:25:45,236 'The Merry Widow'. 457 00:25:46,391 --> 00:25:49,612 Thalberg thinks: "Okay, here's this genius director, 458 00:25:49,732 --> 00:25:51,549 whom I must manage 459 00:25:51,831 --> 00:25:53,756 to keep under control - how do I go about it?" 460 00:25:53,953 --> 00:25:56,394 And Thalberg is going to set up a very ingenious stragegy. 461 00:25:56,797 --> 00:26:00,477 The keystone of his system is to hire a star. 462 00:26:00,692 --> 00:26:04,505 Stroheim had never worked with stars before. 463 00:26:04,712 --> 00:26:06,308 And on this film, he's gonna have to deal with two at the same time: 464 00:26:06,428 --> 00:26:08,362 Mae Murray and John Gilbert. 465 00:26:08,482 --> 00:26:12,803 Gilbert doesn't pose any problem, he's relatively flexible. 466 00:26:12,923 --> 00:26:17,552 There is a confrontation or two, but these get settled around a bottle, no big deal. 467 00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:19,759 It's another story with Mae Murray. 468 00:26:19,955 --> 00:26:23,147 Mae Murray is a star, and she wants to be in charge, 469 00:26:23,267 --> 00:26:25,111 with the director at her orders. 470 00:26:25,391 --> 00:26:28,630 Naturally, Stroheim won't hear of it, and he intends to keep the power. 471 00:26:29,395 --> 00:26:32,559 She kept bitching: "He's doing this and that, it'll be terrible". 472 00:26:42,794 --> 00:26:44,343 And Thalberg replied: 473 00:26:44,463 --> 00:26:48,795 "Let him have his way: He depicts degeneracy, decrepitude," 474 00:26:48,915 --> 00:26:50,813 "this man is a genius, let him do it the way he wants". 475 00:26:56,508 --> 00:26:59,428 I gues Stroheim disowned the film afterwards 476 00:27:01,738 --> 00:27:04,226 because Thalberg managed to 477 00:27:04,346 --> 00:27:06,780 demonstrate how one could direct Stroheim. 478 00:27:06,900 --> 00:27:07,522 And THAT, 479 00:27:07,935 --> 00:27:09,747 being ordered around, was not something he liked. 480 00:27:09,957 --> 00:27:11,478 And especially to note that it had worked... 481 00:27:11,769 --> 00:27:14,332 I guess that is really what disturbed him, in a way. 482 00:27:15,525 --> 00:27:18,576 After 'The Merry Widow', Stroheim made 'The Wedding March'. 483 00:27:18,815 --> 00:27:20,739 A realistic and melancholy fairy-tale, 484 00:27:20,974 --> 00:27:22,627 another great popular success. 485 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:26,946 And yet, Stroheim's film-making career is nearing its end. 486 00:27:28,340 --> 00:27:31,307 Inexorably, he becomes the great banished lord. 487 00:27:35,701 --> 00:27:38,330 I think his films did make money, 488 00:27:38,624 --> 00:27:42,089 so that is not the main reason 489 00:27:42,209 --> 00:27:44,286 why he stopped making films. 490 00:27:44,406 --> 00:27:47,272 The problem is actually Stroheim's behaviour 491 00:27:47,392 --> 00:27:49,028 More than his financial disasters. 492 00:27:49,148 --> 00:27:51,352 Stroheim was a director who could, potentially, make a lot of money, 493 00:27:51,472 --> 00:27:54,160 but who had to be watched over. Someone who was unmanageable, in other words. 494 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,734 He lived at a turning point 495 00:27:56,854 --> 00:27:59,185 in Hollywood history, 496 00:27:59,305 --> 00:28:04,076 namely the fusion of the great companies, Paramount, Metro and so on, 497 00:28:04,196 --> 00:28:06,630 that will become the 7 majors, 498 00:28:06,750 --> 00:28:08,167 later, in the 30's. 499 00:28:08,287 --> 00:28:10,327 Well, he did spend outrageous amounts of money. 500 00:28:10,447 --> 00:28:12,882 And another problem with Stroheim was that you knew where it began, 501 00:28:13,002 --> 00:28:15,079 but you never knew where it would end. 502 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,261 He kept rewriting scenes along the way, 503 00:28:18,381 --> 00:28:20,618 extending shooting days, 504 00:28:20,738 --> 00:28:22,559 - and when we say "days"... 505 00:28:22,679 --> 00:28:24,540 it meant the nights as well... 506 00:28:25,703 --> 00:28:28,023 So it was really extensible at will. 507 00:28:28,239 --> 00:28:31,328 From 1924, 1925 onwards, 508 00:28:31,734 --> 00:28:34,336 Scrutiny became tighter. 509 00:28:34,731 --> 00:28:36,750 There was less and less room for the independant artist. 510 00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:38,327 It becomes more and more difficult. 511 00:28:38,645 --> 00:28:42,391 And it became even more difficult 5 years later, 512 00:28:42,511 --> 00:28:44,016 with the advent of the talkies. 513 00:28:44,136 --> 00:28:46,224 Because when the talkies come round, 514 00:28:46,487 --> 00:28:48,055 films are a lot more expensive to make. 515 00:28:48,266 --> 00:28:50,961 It is quite out of the question to reshoot scenes 516 00:28:51,081 --> 00:28:54,237 when the audio has been worked on already, 517 00:28:54,435 --> 00:28:57,740 or when there's been direct sound capture. 518 00:28:57,860 --> 00:28:59,461 With silent pictures, it was easy. 519 00:28:59,581 --> 00:29:02,531 Chaplin took a year to make a movie, he made retakes, 520 00:29:02,651 --> 00:29:05,546 he reshot it, and so one, it wasn't quite as costly. 521 00:29:05,666 --> 00:29:09,187 From the moment when the technical equipment became considerable because of talkies, 522 00:29:09,398 --> 00:29:10,769 films are a lot more expensive, 523 00:29:10,889 --> 00:29:14,611 scripts are extremely precise, while during the silent era, 524 00:29:14,731 --> 00:29:16,415 there was a lot of improvisation, 525 00:29:16,535 --> 00:29:19,495 there was a huge freedom on the set. 526 00:29:19,615 --> 00:29:22,152 From the moment when costs had to be reduced, 527 00:29:22,272 --> 00:29:24,302 and useless expenses had to be avoided, 528 00:29:24,422 --> 00:29:26,217 scripts were being followed to the letter. 529 00:29:26,337 --> 00:29:28,386 Very scrupulously. 530 00:29:28,506 --> 00:29:29,842 So the script became a stranglehold. 531 00:29:29,962 --> 00:29:33,745 Filmmakers were under surveillance. 532 00:29:34,373 --> 00:29:36,739 He directs another picture. One last gem: 533 00:29:36,974 --> 00:29:37,642 Queen Kelly, 534 00:29:37,762 --> 00:29:39,266 Starring Gloria Swanson, 535 00:29:39,386 --> 00:29:41,097 And Senator Joe Kennedy's money. 536 00:29:42,055 --> 00:29:43,294 But it is an unfinished gem. 537 00:29:43,685 --> 00:29:46,717 Swanson, however much she admires his films, and who doesn't have cold feet, 538 00:29:47,009 --> 00:29:49,046 thinks that this time, he goes too far. 539 00:29:49,471 --> 00:29:52,852 This S&M side of the film, 540 00:29:52,972 --> 00:29:54,439 with this "venus with fur", 541 00:29:54,659 --> 00:29:57,213 who was really the naked queen under her furs, 542 00:29:57,333 --> 00:30:00,287 whipping the young maiden and all... 543 00:30:00,407 --> 00:30:03,508 taking baths.... 544 00:30:03,628 --> 00:30:06,437 and young lovers and all that... 545 00:30:06,679 --> 00:30:09,890 It was all very bold... 546 00:30:10,010 --> 00:30:14,650 And I think that... already then, the puritan America is on the way... 547 00:30:14,846 --> 00:30:16,329 The 20's are drawing to a close... 548 00:30:16,449 --> 00:30:18,705 The Hays code is about to settle in.... 549 00:30:18,825 --> 00:30:21,705 - not at the time of Queen Kelly, but soon - 550 00:30:21,825 --> 00:30:24,943 Puritan America of the Prohibition era is falling into place. 551 00:30:25,169 --> 00:30:27,751 All that coincides with the advent of the talkies. 552 00:30:28,072 --> 00:30:31,856 So all these elements together, 553 00:30:31,976 --> 00:30:33,527 accounted for a rejection of Stroheim. 554 00:30:36,322 --> 00:30:40,003 But then, did the talkies put an end to his career? 555 00:30:40,463 --> 00:30:41,486 The anecdote... 556 00:30:42,248 --> 00:30:44,708 Well, one could use that anecdote to say that 557 00:30:44,828 --> 00:30:46,304 it was what triggered it. 558 00:30:46,424 --> 00:30:50,154 From the moment the shooting of the talkie version of 'Blind Husbands' 559 00:30:50,274 --> 00:30:52,857 had been set up, 560 00:30:52,977 --> 00:30:55,722 - it had been written, everything was in place - 561 00:30:55,842 --> 00:30:57,722 Shooting was about to begin, 562 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,671 and at some point, Stroheim asks for the bells to be placed over a lake, 563 00:31:02,791 --> 00:31:05,623 because it's supposed to have a different sound over water. 564 00:31:06,055 --> 00:31:08,224 But the sound people tell him that 565 00:31:08,344 --> 00:31:11,133 the sound will be recorded from elsewhere and played over the footage. 566 00:31:11,253 --> 00:31:12,833 And Stroheim goes berzerk, 567 00:31:12,953 --> 00:31:14,841 because he wants his bells over the lake, 568 00:31:14,961 --> 00:31:16,541 and he won't have it any other way. 569 00:31:16,661 --> 00:31:18,616 That's when they pull the plug on him. 570 00:31:19,012 --> 00:31:21,481 This was the incident that triggered 571 00:31:21,601 --> 00:31:24,054 Stroheim being fired from this project, 572 00:31:24,174 --> 00:31:24,938 and the project was cancelled. 573 00:31:25,058 --> 00:31:27,006 I think that the advent of the talkies 574 00:31:27,204 --> 00:31:30,312 gave the movie moguls a good opportunity 575 00:31:30,509 --> 00:31:32,499 to get rid of someone who was 576 00:31:32,619 --> 00:31:34,911 extremely complicated to handle. 577 00:31:40,810 --> 00:31:41,937 Stroheim is 45. 578 00:31:42,538 --> 00:31:44,003 He will never direct again. 579 00:31:44,641 --> 00:31:45,712 For the remainder of his life, 580 00:31:46,003 --> 00:31:48,032 He'll have to act in other people's films. 581 00:31:48,555 --> 00:31:49,832 Lesser films than his, 582 00:31:50,123 --> 00:31:52,564 made by directors who don't necessarily have ideas, 583 00:31:53,109 --> 00:31:54,724 and in increasingly broke productions. 584 00:32:08,527 --> 00:32:10,386 For 5 years, Stroheim withers doing cheapies, 585 00:32:10,677 --> 00:32:13,578 until a more serious proposal arrives from France. 586 00:32:14,686 --> 00:32:16,433 And so leaves the great banished lord. 587 00:32:16,714 --> 00:32:19,156 He leaves America and returns to the Old World, 588 00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:20,284 where he was born, 589 00:32:20,613 --> 00:32:21,946 where he grew up. 590 00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:24,659 The year is 1935, 591 00:32:25,156 --> 00:32:26,227 and like in 1909, 592 00:32:26,584 --> 00:32:28,922 crossing the Atlantic is still done by boat. 593 00:32:29,362 --> 00:32:30,424 It lasts 10 days. 594 00:32:30,818 --> 00:32:32,058 It gives one time to think. 595 00:32:32,565 --> 00:32:35,335 And Stroheim has plenty to think about. 596 00:32:36,427 --> 00:32:38,051 He must be thinking about his mother, 597 00:32:38,276 --> 00:32:39,760 whom he's going to see again after so many years, 598 00:32:40,154 --> 00:32:42,398 Joanna Stroheim, nee Bondy. 599 00:32:43,202 --> 00:32:44,573 He must be thinking that she, 600 00:32:44,693 --> 00:32:46,151 Joanna, knows. 601 00:32:47,052 --> 00:32:48,264 She knows that her son Erich 602 00:32:48,536 --> 00:32:50,264 has falsified the family identity 603 00:32:50,563 --> 00:32:52,414 to replace it with a new one he came up with, 604 00:32:52,620 --> 00:32:54,460 when boarding off the boat at Ellis Island, 605 00:32:54,686 --> 00:32:56,564 one day of November, 1909. 606 00:32:57,642 --> 00:32:58,854 It only took 3 letters. 607 00:32:59,210 --> 00:33:00,300 By putting 'Von' 608 00:33:00,534 --> 00:33:01,924 between Erich and Stroheim, 609 00:33:02,298 --> 00:33:03,885 the son of a Viennese hat maker, 610 00:33:04,082 --> 00:33:05,350 the Jew Erich Stroheim, 611 00:33:05,601 --> 00:33:07,845 became the former Dragoons lieutenant. 612 00:33:08,605 --> 00:33:11,196 Later, those 3 letters made him into 'Herr Direktor', 613 00:33:11,316 --> 00:33:12,417 and everything that followed. 614 00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:14,540 He decided to become someone else. 615 00:33:14,660 --> 00:33:17,656 That's interesting, and that's something he's going to hold on to, 616 00:33:17,776 --> 00:33:19,947 even though he has no idea at this point 617 00:33:20,067 --> 00:33:22,237 that he's going to work in movies. 618 00:33:24,161 --> 00:33:27,832 In 1935, Benno Stroheim, Erich's father, is long dead. 619 00:33:28,574 --> 00:33:29,757 His son had disappointed him. 620 00:33:30,177 --> 00:33:33,050 He had shown no promise for commerce and keeping the shop. 621 00:33:33,736 --> 00:33:34,976 Repugnance, rather. 622 00:33:36,703 --> 00:33:38,055 Stroheim dreamt of being a Dragoon. 623 00:33:38,175 --> 00:33:39,819 And that's precisely 624 00:33:39,939 --> 00:33:42,279 what he pretended to have been. 625 00:33:42,533 --> 00:33:45,002 The Dragoons are an elite unit. 626 00:33:45,258 --> 00:33:48,348 He was really in a unit that's equivalent to the "train regiment". 627 00:33:48,601 --> 00:33:51,042 Not a very prestigious unit, 628 00:33:51,162 --> 00:33:53,242 an administrative unit. It's important, capital even, 629 00:33:53,362 --> 00:33:57,384 but it's not a fighting unit. They don't go to the front. 630 00:33:57,504 --> 00:34:00,246 And this unit, according to the era's antisemitic jargon, 631 00:34:00,366 --> 00:34:03,114 (because Stroheim's youth also coincided with 632 00:34:03,234 --> 00:34:05,396 a wave of antisemitism) 633 00:34:05,516 --> 00:34:08,953 This unit was called "Moses' Dragoons", 634 00:34:09,073 --> 00:34:10,211 because it was comprised of many Jews. 635 00:34:10,702 --> 00:34:13,848 It must have irked Stroheim to be appointed to this unit, 636 00:34:13,968 --> 00:34:15,669 as it was really an inferior unit. 637 00:34:15,789 --> 00:34:19,074 The fact that he often showed photos 638 00:34:19,194 --> 00:34:20,803 of him as a young officer, 639 00:34:20,923 --> 00:34:23,141 - there are two that are commonly shown - 640 00:34:23,261 --> 00:34:26,906 really demonstrates that this was his dream, one that he never accomplished. 641 00:34:27,026 --> 00:34:29,403 Once we know 642 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,825 Stroheim's secret about his origins, 643 00:34:31,945 --> 00:34:34,594 it sheds a light on his personality: There are three levels: 644 00:34:34,714 --> 00:34:35,974 First, there is, deep down, 645 00:34:36,801 --> 00:34:39,450 the little Stroheim, the young Jew, 646 00:34:39,570 --> 00:34:42,570 who has gone into hiding, in a way. 647 00:34:42,690 --> 00:34:44,279 Just one level above him there is 'Von', 648 00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:46,290 'Von Stroheim', the persona 649 00:34:46,543 --> 00:34:49,323 he plays in his everyday life, 650 00:34:49,443 --> 00:34:50,534 the one he pretends to be, 651 00:34:50,654 --> 00:34:53,154 And above that are the various characters he plays in movies. 652 00:34:53,274 --> 00:34:57,171 And there is a permanent interaction between 653 00:34:57,291 --> 00:34:59,127 the parts he plays onscreen 654 00:34:59,247 --> 00:35:01,203 and what he is in real life, 655 00:35:01,323 --> 00:35:03,231 the person he is, with his family and friends, 656 00:35:03,351 --> 00:35:05,344 some of whom don't even know the truth. 657 00:35:07,662 --> 00:35:10,432 Where the Hollywood community is concerned, I don't know. 658 00:35:10,552 --> 00:35:13,914 I guess most of the Hollywood community knew about Stroheim's secret. 659 00:35:14,294 --> 00:35:16,707 But in Hollywood, 660 00:35:16,827 --> 00:35:19,447 being Jewish was no big deal. 661 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,772 Pretty much everyone was Jewish and it was a secret to no-one. 662 00:35:22,892 --> 00:35:26,015 But Stroheim didn't want it to be known. 663 00:35:26,135 --> 00:35:27,028 So out of respect for him, 664 00:35:27,244 --> 00:35:29,084 people didn't talk about it. 665 00:35:35,405 --> 00:35:37,377 All this only works because 666 00:35:37,631 --> 00:35:39,527 there is a real vitality 667 00:35:39,647 --> 00:35:42,063 to the character he has hidden. 668 00:35:42,183 --> 00:35:44,338 And this vitality expresses itself 669 00:35:44,458 --> 00:35:46,281 in an almost mathematical way, 670 00:35:46,401 --> 00:35:48,629 meaning that Stroheim systematically presents the reverse 671 00:35:48,749 --> 00:35:50,436 from what he was supposed to be, to begin with. 672 00:35:50,739 --> 00:35:51,856 He was really 673 00:35:54,645 --> 00:35:56,617 a commoner, originally. 674 00:35:56,737 --> 00:35:58,457 And he pretends to be a nobleman. 675 00:35:58,677 --> 00:36:02,602 He tried to join the army several times, 676 00:36:02,722 --> 00:36:04,869 he was refused several times, 677 00:36:04,989 --> 00:36:07,019 and he pretends to be a former officer. 678 00:36:07,139 --> 00:36:10,942 He constantly pretends to be the opposite of what he really was. 679 00:36:11,062 --> 00:36:13,485 And this is precisely what leads to this reinvention, 680 00:36:13,605 --> 00:36:15,870 and gives this persona its strength. 681 00:36:17,315 --> 00:36:18,536 The French proposal was 682 00:36:18,656 --> 00:36:21,334 'Marthe Richard Au Service de la France', with Edwige Feuillere. 683 00:36:22,047 --> 00:36:24,029 Stroheim resumes his "Evil Hun" persona. 684 00:36:24,844 --> 00:36:26,451 'La Grande Illusion', made right after that film, 685 00:36:26,770 --> 00:36:28,404 is not just going to restore his image. 686 00:36:29,018 --> 00:36:31,347 It will give his character its immortality. 687 00:36:32,457 --> 00:36:33,931 Playing "Von Rauffenstein", 688 00:36:34,051 --> 00:36:36,344 the "career officer in the Imperial German army" 689 00:36:36,897 --> 00:36:38,202 Stroheim solidifies once and for all 690 00:36:38,322 --> 00:36:40,793 the image that all generations of filmgoers 691 00:36:40,913 --> 00:36:42,803 will come to know and love. 692 00:36:43,468 --> 00:36:44,839 Or at least those of France. 693 00:36:47,187 --> 00:36:48,746 Jean Renoir directs the film. 694 00:36:49,027 --> 00:36:50,942 And since Renoir admires Stroheim the filmmaker, 695 00:36:51,355 --> 00:36:53,618 he heartily welcomes several of his suggestions. 696 00:36:54,865 --> 00:36:56,827 Rauffenstein's notorious neckbrace, for one thing, 697 00:36:57,062 --> 00:36:58,226 is a pure Stroheim touch. 698 00:37:00,085 --> 00:37:01,710 And Rauffenstein is no "Evil Hun". 699 00:37:02,092 --> 00:37:03,501 He's almost not even German. 700 00:37:03,621 --> 00:37:05,623 In spite of the uniform and the accent. 701 00:37:07,374 --> 00:37:08,547 He is much more: 702 00:37:08,989 --> 00:37:10,032 The end of a world, 703 00:37:10,331 --> 00:37:12,509 a world ruled by a pre-1914 aristocratic code of honour, 704 00:37:12,838 --> 00:37:14,519 and which did not survive the Great War. 705 00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:22,477 The character created by Stroheim completely revives his acting career. 706 00:37:23,041 --> 00:37:24,797 He becomes "the eccentric actor". 707 00:37:26,177 --> 00:37:27,858 First, 'Les Disparus de St-Agil', 708 00:37:27,978 --> 00:37:29,736 which dazzled a whole generation of kids. 709 00:37:30,136 --> 00:37:32,653 In it, Stroheim is soft-spoken, shy, and bold. 710 00:37:36,738 --> 00:37:37,564 'Les Pirates du Rail'. 711 00:37:37,807 --> 00:37:39,864 Stroheim plays the Chinese General Tchou-King. 712 00:37:41,291 --> 00:37:42,305 'L'affaire Lafarge' 713 00:37:42,727 --> 00:37:44,079 directed by Pierre Chenal, 714 00:37:44,279 --> 00:37:45,444 another admirer. 715 00:37:49,423 --> 00:37:51,235 In Edmond Greville's 'Mademoiselle Docteur', 716 00:37:51,355 --> 00:37:52,663 he plays yet another German spy. 717 00:37:53,039 --> 00:37:54,917 But in 'Rappel Immediat', sudden change: 718 00:37:55,244 --> 00:37:56,925 He portrays an American officer. 719 00:38:04,132 --> 00:38:05,850 In Robert Siodmak's underrated 'Pieges', 720 00:38:06,094 --> 00:38:09,155 he plays a fallen fashion designer, who presents his collections to empty rooms. 721 00:38:16,093 --> 00:38:19,163 The declaration of war, in September 1939 forces him into exile. 722 00:38:19,764 --> 00:38:22,487 Stroheim leaves France with his wife-to-be, 723 00:38:22,607 --> 00:38:23,533 Denise Vernac. 724 00:38:24,435 --> 00:38:25,514 He goes back to America, 725 00:38:25,787 --> 00:38:27,420 where his status as an actor is rather modest, 726 00:38:27,705 --> 00:38:29,470 and where everyone is oblivious or pretends to be 727 00:38:29,724 --> 00:38:32,099 to the fact that he was, twenty years earlier, 'Herr Direktor'. 728 00:38:33,827 --> 00:38:35,076 Stroheim does one acting gig after another. 729 00:38:35,634 --> 00:38:38,329 As usual, he plays one "Kraut" after the other. 730 00:38:57,306 --> 00:38:58,583 The films are mediocre. 731 00:38:59,006 --> 00:39:01,822 And even 'Five Graves to Cairo', directed by his fellow countryman Billy Wilder, 732 00:39:01,942 --> 00:39:03,043 is far from sublime. 733 00:39:03,772 --> 00:39:05,998 Stroheim plays Rommel. Naturally. 734 00:39:06,937 --> 00:39:08,383 But as soon as the war is over, 735 00:39:08,503 --> 00:39:11,132 he goes back to France to play under the direction of Jean Delannoy. 736 00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:13,558 Stroheim goes on being an actor. 737 00:39:13,867 --> 00:39:15,097 But unlike his pre-war engagements, 738 00:39:15,217 --> 00:39:17,538 the French films are, for the most part, really bad. 739 00:39:18,610 --> 00:39:21,070 While working on one of them, he makes the acquaintance of a young extra 740 00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:22,225 who is overwhelmed with admiration. 741 00:39:22,866 --> 00:39:24,228 I was a humble 742 00:39:24,697 --> 00:39:26,340 assistant of sorts. 743 00:39:26,460 --> 00:39:29,608 I was something of a spectator of his life. 744 00:39:29,963 --> 00:39:31,823 But I was not intimate with him. 745 00:39:31,943 --> 00:39:34,920 Very few people.... well some people saw me with him, but 746 00:39:35,277 --> 00:39:37,943 nobody knows I knew Stroheim. 747 00:39:38,307 --> 00:39:40,628 I say it sometimes, just to boast. 748 00:39:41,522 --> 00:39:45,316 I knew him from 'L'Alibi', 749 00:39:45,729 --> 00:39:48,358 'L'Affaire Lafarge', all the films we just talked about, 750 00:39:48,478 --> 00:39:49,203 i.e. 751 00:39:49,624 --> 00:39:51,887 'Macao', 'Menaces', 752 00:39:52,169 --> 00:39:54,751 and really I didn't see 'Menaces' until much later, because it was forbidden... 753 00:39:55,088 --> 00:39:56,703 But of all the films, 'Les Disparus de St-Agil'... 754 00:39:56,823 --> 00:39:58,769 Because to the kid that I was, 755 00:39:58,889 --> 00:40:00,581 Well yes I was very impressed. 756 00:40:03,517 --> 00:40:07,358 And I used to go with him to a place called "L'Elysee Matignon" 757 00:40:07,901 --> 00:40:11,159 Which was a sort of place a bit like the Fouquet's, but 758 00:40:11,404 --> 00:40:12,906 He went to L'Elysee Matignon, 759 00:40:13,257 --> 00:40:15,783 He went there like some extras do, 760 00:40:15,903 --> 00:40:18,187 to be seen. 761 00:40:18,307 --> 00:40:20,956 Even though he didn't have to. He was... 762 00:40:21,170 --> 00:40:22,842 Everybody knew who he was. 763 00:40:22,962 --> 00:40:26,129 But I never saw him ask anyone 764 00:40:28,728 --> 00:40:30,568 for money. 765 00:40:31,407 --> 00:40:33,951 He didn't go from table to table saying: "Hey could you..." 766 00:40:34,393 --> 00:40:36,055 Producers were there. 767 00:40:36,327 --> 00:40:38,261 The Akim brothers were there. 768 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:42,288 They were often there, and they were very important people back then. 769 00:40:42,408 --> 00:40:43,452 The two brothers. 770 00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:47,240 He didn't go ask them for a job. 771 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,785 Or to ask them to make a film. He was very proud. 772 00:40:49,905 --> 00:40:51,646 He confided in me. 773 00:40:51,766 --> 00:40:53,674 He kept telling me 774 00:40:54,341 --> 00:40:57,712 about the fact that he hadn't directed a picture in 25 years. 775 00:40:57,832 --> 00:40:59,054 He was tormented by this. 776 00:40:59,485 --> 00:41:01,560 He used to tell me: "When you're a director" 777 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,194 or "when you try to become a director" 778 00:41:03,403 --> 00:41:07,010 "Don't disappoint the producers. Don't do what I did". 779 00:41:07,245 --> 00:41:08,991 "Don't destroy your sets" 780 00:41:09,111 --> 00:41:11,583 "Don't make them go bankrupt" 781 00:41:11,703 --> 00:41:14,398 "Because even if you only lead one of them to bankruptcy" 782 00:41:14,699 --> 00:41:16,201 "All the others will resent you for it". 783 00:41:16,407 --> 00:41:18,078 "Not just the one you ruined". 784 00:41:18,198 --> 00:41:19,167 "Because if you do that," 785 00:41:19,479 --> 00:41:21,751 "Then it's the desert. They will..." 786 00:41:21,871 --> 00:41:25,329 "They cast you out". 787 00:41:25,449 --> 00:41:27,065 "They go 'This guy is a nutcase', 788 00:41:27,185 --> 00:41:29,113 'He made you lose money', 789 00:41:29,233 --> 00:41:32,605 'He had his set destroyed', 790 00:41:33,050 --> 00:41:35,585 'Something horrible'", 791 00:41:36,242 --> 00:41:38,956 So they took their revenge on him. 792 00:41:39,076 --> 00:41:41,302 He didn't direct anything for 25 years. 793 00:41:49,193 --> 00:41:52,329 Stroheim didn't like comedies. 794 00:41:52,617 --> 00:41:55,471 He found them stupid. 795 00:41:55,591 --> 00:41:58,654 I remember, at the time there were those comedies with Sophie Desmarets, 796 00:41:59,340 --> 00:42:01,481 with Annie Ducaux... 797 00:42:01,823 --> 00:42:04,217 Stuff like 'Florence Est Folle'... 798 00:42:04,337 --> 00:42:05,466 He hated that. 799 00:42:05,732 --> 00:42:08,041 He was my master in that respect, 800 00:42:08,161 --> 00:42:10,201 because when I tackled comedies, 801 00:42:10,539 --> 00:42:11,845 I remembered what he told me. 802 00:42:11,965 --> 00:42:13,997 That is, not to make empty comedies. 803 00:42:14,739 --> 00:42:17,678 Always make a comedy that is also a social satire. 804 00:42:18,883 --> 00:42:21,399 He did, on the other hand, love Feydeau. 805 00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:22,620 Loved Feydeau. 806 00:42:22,873 --> 00:42:25,916 Because he said that in Feydeau there was a social criticism. 807 00:42:26,036 --> 00:42:29,299 That is the main problem with this type of actor, like Orson Welles, 808 00:42:29,703 --> 00:42:32,106 Who had the same problem when he worked with Chabrol. 809 00:42:32,378 --> 00:42:35,627 Namely that when you hire such a legend, 810 00:42:35,900 --> 00:42:37,167 as a director, 811 00:42:37,674 --> 00:42:38,698 you're overawed. 812 00:42:39,184 --> 00:42:41,794 You say to yourself: "Shit, he's so great!" 813 00:42:41,914 --> 00:42:42,949 "Who the hell am I to direct HIM?" 814 00:42:43,201 --> 00:42:45,248 And even Renoir, who was... 815 00:42:45,368 --> 00:42:48,206 Renoir was extremely... 816 00:42:48,505 --> 00:42:49,698 humble. 817 00:42:49,961 --> 00:42:52,017 He was not pretentious at all. 818 00:42:52,269 --> 00:42:54,120 So he was afraid of Stroheim. 819 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,439 He used to say to himself: "Geez, I'm directing a guy who..." 820 00:42:56,678 --> 00:42:59,298 Well, he considered him to be much greater then himself. 821 00:42:59,794 --> 00:43:02,968 So he suffered a lot from this, Erich. 822 00:43:03,088 --> 00:43:03,736 Because 823 00:43:03,856 --> 00:43:06,928 People were afraid of hiring him. 824 00:43:07,048 --> 00:43:09,886 So he was only getting hired by guys who were former assistants, 825 00:43:10,330 --> 00:43:11,297 and he used to say to me: 826 00:43:12,687 --> 00:43:15,326 "All the films I make, I make them because" 827 00:43:15,446 --> 00:43:18,481 "I want to stay involved in movies, somehow". 828 00:43:18,601 --> 00:43:20,104 "I can't give it up". 829 00:43:20,611 --> 00:43:22,330 Stroheim's problem, 830 00:43:22,736 --> 00:43:26,004 And Jouvet's problem, and that of this kind of actors, 831 00:43:26,124 --> 00:43:27,985 the character actors, 832 00:43:28,105 --> 00:43:29,938 was that they had 3 days of shooting. 833 00:43:30,184 --> 00:43:31,978 They weren't given leading roles, 834 00:43:32,098 --> 00:43:33,931 they were given supporting parts. 835 00:43:34,051 --> 00:43:36,372 For example, Louis Jouvet, in 'L'Alibi', had 3 days of shooting 836 00:43:36,492 --> 00:43:38,888 to play the part of the police inspector. 837 00:43:39,647 --> 00:43:40,483 So 838 00:43:40,990 --> 00:43:42,915 Actors were hired on a gig-by-gig basis. 839 00:43:43,035 --> 00:43:45,328 And their name was added to the casting. 840 00:43:45,448 --> 00:43:47,440 And Erich von Stroheim, in, for example, 'Minuit'... 841 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,134 'Minuit, Quai de Bercy', 842 00:43:50,670 --> 00:43:52,144 was scheduled to shoot for 2 days. 843 00:43:52,475 --> 00:43:54,072 Christian Stengel said, "Okay", 844 00:43:54,363 --> 00:43:56,917 "Let's have Stroheim for 2 days". 845 00:43:57,037 --> 00:43:59,443 For 'Serie Noire' I think he also had 2 or 3 days, 846 00:43:59,648 --> 00:44:01,976 'La Madone des Sleepings", 2 or 3 days, 847 00:44:02,182 --> 00:44:04,671 On 'Macao', he worked for 5 days, I think. 848 00:44:04,791 --> 00:44:08,246 It was always reduced to a bare minimum. And in some films he was there for a day. 849 00:44:08,462 --> 00:44:11,382 Shooting over a period of two days 850 00:44:11,627 --> 00:44:14,030 gave him the status, not quite of an extra, but 851 00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:15,742 of a meaningless supporting part. 852 00:44:15,986 --> 00:44:18,681 To the assistants, it was like: "Well, that guy there, the..." 853 00:44:19,399 --> 00:44:22,602 "the Mittel-European guy there, he's here for 2 days". The guy didn't know who Stroheim was. 854 00:44:22,722 --> 00:44:26,425 Didn't know his films as an actor and even less those he had directed. 855 00:44:26,838 --> 00:44:29,411 'Greed' or 'Queen Kelly', he hadn't ever heard of any of it. 856 00:44:29,531 --> 00:44:30,856 I learnt about that part of his career eventually, 857 00:44:30,976 --> 00:44:33,428 but long after I had met him. Long after that. 858 00:44:34,751 --> 00:44:37,305 I witnessed an incident that shocked me tremendously. 859 00:44:37,425 --> 00:44:39,590 From a young 860 00:44:39,710 --> 00:44:42,548 assistant who has now become a revered director... 861 00:44:43,018 --> 00:44:45,309 I won't give his name, out of charity. 862 00:44:45,555 --> 00:44:47,752 It was on the set of a movie he was making, 863 00:44:47,872 --> 00:44:50,729 One of those movies in which he had one of those bit parts, 864 00:44:50,849 --> 00:44:52,193 for two days, and so on... 865 00:44:52,682 --> 00:44:54,128 At some point, 866 00:44:54,248 --> 00:44:56,295 the assistant went and knocked on his dressing room door, 867 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,352 and - Stroheim told me that story - 868 00:44:58,472 --> 00:45:00,878 the guy knocked on his door, 869 00:45:00,998 --> 00:45:02,891 and said: "All righty Erich, on the set! Chop chop!" 870 00:45:03,011 --> 00:45:04,468 "Come on!" 871 00:45:04,722 --> 00:45:06,722 (using the French "tu", familiar form of "you") 872 00:45:15,743 --> 00:45:17,480 The last glimmer of hope comes from America after all. 873 00:45:17,843 --> 00:45:20,613 Billy Wilder has written the part of Max von Mayerling for him. 874 00:45:20,810 --> 00:45:21,843 A fallen film director, 875 00:45:21,963 --> 00:45:24,773 Who has become the butler of another fallen idol of the silent era. 876 00:45:25,506 --> 00:45:26,792 And to play her part, 877 00:45:26,912 --> 00:45:28,763 Wilder casts Gloria Swanson, 878 00:45:29,193 --> 00:45:31,081 the very one who starred in 'Queen Kelly'. 879 00:45:37,021 --> 00:45:38,693 'Sunset Boulevard' is a masterpiece. 880 00:45:39,237 --> 00:45:39,819 Beautiful, 881 00:45:40,139 --> 00:45:40,899 mean, 882 00:45:41,237 --> 00:45:42,242 funereal. 883 00:45:58,346 --> 00:46:00,299 Stroheim ended his life in France. 884 00:46:00,590 --> 00:46:03,378 He died in Maurepas. 885 00:46:04,402 --> 00:46:05,491 In Ile-De-France. 886 00:46:05,611 --> 00:46:09,611 He had settled in a house that was very much like him. 887 00:46:10,821 --> 00:46:13,601 If I had to describe it, I'd say it was a sort of "neo-Normandy fantasy". 888 00:46:13,721 --> 00:46:15,159 Some sort of little manor, 889 00:46:15,279 --> 00:46:16,971 with half-timbering, old stones... 890 00:46:19,869 --> 00:46:22,761 He had decorated it in his likeness, so with military paraphernalia all over the place, 891 00:46:22,881 --> 00:46:25,268 many of which were in fact film props. 892 00:46:25,388 --> 00:46:27,371 There are a few famous pictures showing 893 00:46:27,491 --> 00:46:30,344 Stroheim sitting at his desk, perched on a horse saddle, 894 00:46:30,464 --> 00:46:33,536 He had placed a saddle over a wooden trestle and he sat on top of that. 895 00:46:34,548 --> 00:46:37,074 Stirrups were used as ashtrays... 896 00:46:37,637 --> 00:46:40,464 There were ashtrays made from sculpted horse heads, 897 00:46:40,921 --> 00:46:42,593 Various objects of that kind... 898 00:46:42,713 --> 00:46:44,236 Stained-glass windows in the house... 899 00:46:44,356 --> 00:46:46,292 Objects that made you think of 900 00:46:46,412 --> 00:46:48,855 A former military officer... 901 00:46:48,975 --> 00:46:52,085 And nobleman... a very special house. 902 00:46:59,716 --> 00:47:00,861 Erich von Stroheim 903 00:47:01,068 --> 00:47:02,119 died peacefully 904 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,490 in his Maurepas manor 905 00:47:03,610 --> 00:47:05,180 in the spring of 1957. 906 00:47:06,479 --> 00:47:08,216 The actor, 907 00:47:08,336 --> 00:47:10,517 and film director, Stroheim and von Stroheim, 908 00:47:10,637 --> 00:47:11,484 were buried a few steps away, 909 00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:13,544 in a small graveyard in the countryside. 910 00:47:14,389 --> 00:47:17,131 A gypsy band followed the parade. 911 00:47:17,975 --> 00:47:21,411 You view Stroheim's death differently, depending on where you stand. 912 00:47:21,655 --> 00:47:23,101 If you're American, 913 00:47:23,351 --> 00:47:26,318 He's a bit forgotten. You may remember that there was once, long ago, 914 00:47:26,438 --> 00:47:28,084 Someone by the name of Stroheim. 915 00:47:28,281 --> 00:47:31,764 But if you're French, you know that Stroheim was this cursed filmmaker, 916 00:47:31,983 --> 00:47:34,501 You know that he was crushed by the Hollywood system, 917 00:47:34,621 --> 00:47:36,275 You know that he was a great actor, 918 00:47:36,395 --> 00:47:39,111 At the time of his death, he is, to French audiences, first and foremost, a great actor. 919 00:47:39,776 --> 00:47:42,640 Film buffs may remember the great filmmaker, 920 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,476 But he's especially known as an actor 921 00:47:45,596 --> 00:47:46,152 at this point. 922 00:47:46,348 --> 00:47:48,667 What killed me about his death was 923 00:47:48,940 --> 00:47:50,611 that I wanted to cast him. 924 00:47:50,894 --> 00:47:51,909 And I was like... 925 00:47:52,106 --> 00:47:55,440 It's like when something's just within your reach, 926 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,365 You reach out for it and it escapes you. 927 00:47:57,485 --> 00:48:00,419 That thing is just inches away... 928 00:48:00,786 --> 00:48:02,964 And that's amazing because 929 00:48:03,342 --> 00:48:05,483 I chose to do this just to be able to direct 930 00:48:05,603 --> 00:48:07,258 Stroheim, Jules Berry, Raimu... 931 00:48:07,378 --> 00:48:08,366 And they're all dead! 932 00:48:08,486 --> 00:48:11,521 I managed to catch a few of them... 933 00:48:12,205 --> 00:48:13,952 I made it happen, but not HIM! 934 00:48:14,072 --> 00:48:17,070 Can you imagine? Stroheim... in one of MY films... 935 00:48:17,631 --> 00:48:18,476 How happy I'd have been. 936 00:48:18,673 --> 00:48:21,190 I think that Stroheim's heirs 937 00:48:21,310 --> 00:48:23,855 Must be found in European cinema, 938 00:48:23,975 --> 00:48:25,789 as it gave more freedom. 939 00:48:25,909 --> 00:48:27,647 For example, Renoir, 940 00:48:27,767 --> 00:48:30,661 Who said himself: "I saw 'Foolish Wives' ten times" 941 00:48:30,886 --> 00:48:32,510 "It was the film that impressed me most". 942 00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:34,961 Undeniably, Renoir, after seeing 'Foolish Wives', 943 00:48:35,170 --> 00:48:36,766 was influenced by Stroheim. 944 00:48:36,886 --> 00:48:38,054 And then Bunuel, 945 00:48:38,174 --> 00:48:40,542 Undeniably, the same naturalism 946 00:48:40,662 --> 00:48:42,504 as Stroheim's. 947 00:48:42,624 --> 00:48:46,108 - a naturalism that is not incompatible with surrealism, contrary to common belief - 948 00:48:46,371 --> 00:48:47,394 Orson Welles, 949 00:48:47,791 --> 00:48:49,275 The only one in America, 950 00:48:49,585 --> 00:48:52,543 who can boast direct influence... 951 00:48:52,663 --> 00:48:54,712 His famous ceiling-shots 952 00:48:54,832 --> 00:48:56,327 are the ceilings from 'Greed'. 953 00:48:56,447 --> 00:48:58,541 They are both great revolutionaries. 954 00:48:58,661 --> 00:49:01,556 They transformed the cinema of their respective eras, 955 00:49:01,779 --> 00:49:03,685 They are both 956 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,483 patsies, both outcasts, 957 00:49:06,681 --> 00:49:07,591 expelled from the film industry. 958 00:49:07,805 --> 00:49:11,289 The revenge, in a way, is when you watch one of my films, 959 00:49:11,552 --> 00:49:15,336 or Stroheim's or anyone else's, 960 00:49:15,921 --> 00:49:21,029 is the pleasure people have in rediscovering them 20, 40, 50, 60 years afterwards. 961 00:49:21,558 --> 00:49:23,831 And that's really what success is. 962 00:49:24,356 --> 00:49:25,774 It's not scoring 20 million admissions. 963 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,460 That's what I find fascinating about Stroheim's persona. 964 00:49:28,580 --> 00:49:31,717 That, film after film, 965 00:49:31,837 --> 00:49:33,248 he creates himself. 966 00:49:33,368 --> 00:49:36,573 Stroheim's films are, in themselves, fabulous. 967 00:49:36,693 --> 00:49:39,615 But to me, his greatest masterpiece is himself. 968 00:49:39,830 --> 00:49:41,905 In a way, 969 00:49:42,025 --> 00:49:44,225 it's the fusion of his films with himself. 970 00:49:44,345 --> 00:49:47,315 And the creation of his persona, through his films. 971 00:49:47,435 --> 00:49:49,702 He has used cinema for personal ends, 972 00:49:49,822 --> 00:49:52,172 namely to create himself. 973 00:49:53,367 --> 00:49:55,527 - Wow! - But... 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