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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,074 Advertise your product or brand here contact www.OpenSubtitles.org today 2 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,533 THE FOLLOWING IS A SPECIAL PRESENTATION 3 00:00:21,533 --> 00:00:24,867 OF HBO's "SPORTS OF THE 20th CENTURY." 4 00:00:29,533 --> 00:00:33,266 THEY TALK ABOUT IT EVERY DAY SOMEWHERE. 5 00:00:33,266 --> 00:00:35,633 IF I GO TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY, 6 00:00:35,633 --> 00:00:37,800 "MAGIC, MAGIC, WHERE'S MAGIC?" 7 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,100 I MEAN, IT'S THE SAME EVERYWHERE. 8 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,934 WE DON'T HAVE TO SEE EACH OTHER. 9 00:00:56,934 --> 00:01:00,133 WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY HELLO. WE DON'T HAVE TO CALL EACH OTHER. 10 00:01:04,433 --> 00:01:06,734 THAT'S MY MAIN COMPETITION. 11 00:01:06,734 --> 00:01:08,166 IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT. 12 00:01:12,166 --> 00:01:15,333 YOU KNOW YOU GOT THIS TIGHT BOND WITH THIS CAT. 13 00:01:15,333 --> 00:01:18,900 AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEE HIM 14 00:01:18,900 --> 00:01:21,066 FOR A YEAR OR TWO. 15 00:01:23,033 --> 00:01:25,600 BUT YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA BE LINKED TO HIM. 16 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,867 WE GOT THIS CONNECTION THAT'S NEVER GONNA BE BROKEN. 17 00:01:34,867 --> 00:01:37,433 I MEAN, RIGHT TO OUR GRAVES. 18 00:01:37,433 --> 00:01:40,300 THEY'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW. 19 00:01:57,367 --> 00:02:01,233 IT ALL BEGAN HERE IN SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH, 20 00:02:01,233 --> 00:02:05,166 ON THE NIGHT OF MARCH 26, 1979. 21 00:02:06,567 --> 00:02:09,133 IT WAS THE NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP. 22 00:02:09,133 --> 00:02:11,633 INDIANA STATE VERSUS MICHIGAN STATE-- 23 00:02:11,633 --> 00:02:14,900 A GAME THAT STILL RANKS AS THE HIGHEST-RATED COLLEGE FINAL 24 00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:17,467 EVER ON TELEVISION. 25 00:02:17,467 --> 00:02:20,667 A GAME THAT'S NOW REMEMBERED AS A PROLOGUE 26 00:02:20,667 --> 00:02:22,967 TO A RIVALRY THAT TRANSFORMED A SPORT 27 00:02:22,967 --> 00:02:25,567 AND INTERTWINED TWO LEGACIES. 28 00:02:27,433 --> 00:02:30,734 BUT ON THAT NIGHT, MARCH 26, 1979, 29 00:02:30,734 --> 00:02:33,300 THE FIRST TIME MAGIC JOHNSON AND LARRY BIRD 30 00:02:33,300 --> 00:02:35,633 EVER WENT HEAD-TO-HEAD ON A BASKETBALL COURT, 31 00:02:35,633 --> 00:02:38,533 THEY WERE SIMPLY TWO YOUNG MEN TRYING 32 00:02:38,533 --> 00:02:41,734 TO WIN A VERY BIG BALLGAME. 33 00:02:41,734 --> 00:02:43,533 THIS IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST GAME I'LL EVER PLAY IN MY LIFE. 34 00:02:43,533 --> 00:02:47,300 I JUST FEEL LIKE I'M REPRESENTING NOT ONLY MYSELF, MY TEAM, 35 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:50,533 BUT WE'RE REPRESENTING OUR SCHOOL AND OUR TOWN TERRE HAUTE. 36 00:02:50,533 --> 00:02:53,500 IT'S A DREAM COME TRUE REALLY FOR ME. 37 00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:56,633 I WON THE STATE TITLE BACK IN MY HOME STATE. 38 00:02:56,633 --> 00:03:00,033 THEN MY NEXT ACCOMPLISHMENT WAS GOING TO THE NCAA 39 00:03:00,033 --> 00:03:03,367 AND PLAYING IN A GAME LIKE TONIGHT IN THE FINALS. 40 00:03:03,367 --> 00:03:05,967 THEY WERE TWO STARS THROWN TOGETHER 41 00:03:05,967 --> 00:03:08,400 BY THE COSMOS TO COMPETE, 42 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,000 BUT ONLY ONE OF THEM HAD BEEN GROOMED FOR THE SPOTLIGHT. 43 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,433 IN HIS CASE, IT SEEMED SINCE BIRTH. 44 00:03:15,433 --> 00:03:17,734 I THINK HIS UPBRINGING IN EAST LANSING 45 00:03:17,734 --> 00:03:20,867 REALLY PUT THAT SMILE ON HIS FACE IN THE BEGINNING, AND IT NEVER CAME OFF. 46 00:03:20,867 --> 00:03:24,700 BORN AUGUST 14th, 1959, 47 00:03:24,700 --> 00:03:27,233 EARVIN JOHNSON GREW UP IN LANSING, 48 00:03:27,233 --> 00:03:30,300 THE GRITTY INDUSTRIAL CAPITAL CITY OF MICHIGAN. 49 00:03:30,300 --> 00:03:32,333 RAISED UNDER THIS LITTLE ROOF, 50 00:03:32,333 --> 00:03:36,166 HE WAS ONE OF CHRISTINE AND EARVIN JOHNSON SENIOR'S 10 KIDS. 51 00:03:36,166 --> 00:03:38,066 CHRISTINE WAS A SCHOOL CUSTODIAN, 52 00:03:38,066 --> 00:03:40,567 WHILE EARVIN SENIOR WORKED TWO JOBS 53 00:03:40,567 --> 00:03:42,500 NEARLY AROUND THE CLOCK. 54 00:03:42,500 --> 00:03:45,934 MY FATHER GOT UP EARLY EVERY MORNING, 6:00 OR SO, 55 00:03:45,934 --> 00:03:49,934 AND HE WENT TO WORK ON HIS TRASH HAULING TRUCK 56 00:03:49,934 --> 00:03:51,467 EVERY SINGLE DAY. 57 00:03:51,467 --> 00:03:55,000 AROUND NOON HE WOULD COME HOME, CATCH A NAP, 58 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,333 AND THEN HE WORKED FOR GENERAL MOTORS FOR 30 YEARS. 59 00:03:58,333 --> 00:04:00,734 AND HE WON AN AWARD FOR NEVER BEING LATE 60 00:04:00,734 --> 00:04:03,100 AND NEVER MISSED A DAY. 61 00:04:03,100 --> 00:04:05,800 AS A YOUNGSTER, EARVIN DISPLAYED 62 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,667 HIS OWN STRONG WORK ETHIC ON THE BLACKTOP. 63 00:04:08,667 --> 00:04:12,400 I WAS OUT THERE ALL DAY LONG. 64 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,367 BEFORE WE WENT TO SCHOOL-- 65 00:04:14,367 --> 00:04:17,133 THE BUS LEAVES AT 7:00, 7:30. 66 00:04:17,133 --> 00:04:20,266 I WAS OUT THERE AT 6:00, 6:30 WORKING ON MY GAME. 67 00:04:20,266 --> 00:04:23,333 MY MOTHER SOMETIMES HAD TO BRING ME FOOD, 68 00:04:23,333 --> 00:04:26,033 OR SHE WOULD HAVE ONE OF MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS-- 69 00:04:26,033 --> 00:04:28,333 "GO GET THAT BOY SO HE COULD EAT SOMETHING." 70 00:04:28,333 --> 00:04:31,834 FROM A VERY YOUNG AGE, EARVIN KNEW WHAT HE WANTED TO DO. 71 00:04:31,834 --> 00:04:35,066 HE HAD IT ALL PLANNED OUT. 72 00:04:35,066 --> 00:04:36,700 MY DREAMS WERE TO PLAY IN THE NBA 73 00:04:36,700 --> 00:04:40,100 AND BECOME A BUSINESSMAN. 74 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:41,633 THE FIRST STOP IN HIS JOURNEY-- 75 00:04:41,633 --> 00:04:45,000 NEIGHBORHOOD BASKETBALL POWERHOUSE SEXTON HIGH. 76 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,333 - I KNEW THE PLAYERS. - I KNEW THE TRADITION. 77 00:04:48,333 --> 00:04:50,166 I WANTED TO BE A PART OF THAT, 78 00:04:50,166 --> 00:04:52,133 AND IT WAS ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, 79 00:04:52,133 --> 00:04:55,834 WHICH WAS AT THAT TIME PREDOMINANTLY BLACK. 80 00:04:57,567 --> 00:05:00,934 BUT WHEN LANSING, LIKE MANY CITIES IN THE MID '70s, 81 00:05:00,934 --> 00:05:03,967 BEGAN BUSING TO DESEGREGATE ITS SCHOOL SYSTEM, 82 00:05:03,967 --> 00:05:07,000 EARVIN'S JOURNEY TOOK AN UNEXPECTED DETOUR-- 83 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,300 TO A PREDOMINANTLY WHITE SCHOOL ACROSS TOWN. 84 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:13,567 MY FIRST DAY AT EVERETT HIGH SCHOOL 85 00:05:13,567 --> 00:05:15,934 WAS MY FIRST TIME I REALLY HAD TO UNDERSTAND 86 00:05:15,934 --> 00:05:18,100 THERE WAS A RACE PROBLEM. 87 00:05:18,100 --> 00:05:20,100 NOBODY WHITE 88 00:05:20,100 --> 00:05:22,834 WOULD SPEAK TO ANYBODY BLACK 89 00:05:22,834 --> 00:05:24,600 AND NOBODY BLACK WOULD SPEAK TO ANYBODY WHITE. 90 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,133 A LOT OF RACIAL TENSION. A LOT OF FIGHTS, 91 00:05:28,133 --> 00:05:29,967 RIOTING. 92 00:05:29,967 --> 00:05:33,000 THEY DIDN'T WANT MINORITIES THERE. 93 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,100 HE KIND OF SHRUGGED IT OFF, 94 00:05:35,100 --> 00:05:37,166 AND BASICALLY HIS ATTITUDE WAS, 95 00:05:37,166 --> 00:05:39,467 "OKAY, WELL, I'LL OVERCOME THIS." 96 00:05:39,467 --> 00:05:43,033 WHENEVER THERE IS ANY RACIAL PROBLEMS, 97 00:05:43,033 --> 00:05:46,367 THE PRINCIPAL WOULD GET EARVIN 98 00:05:46,367 --> 00:05:49,033 AND GO TALK TO THESE KIDS. 99 00:05:49,033 --> 00:05:51,033 I CAN JUST SEE HIM WITH HIS BIG HANDS-- 100 00:05:51,033 --> 00:05:52,667 "JUST CALM DOWN." HE'D BREAK UP FIGHTS. 101 00:05:52,667 --> 00:05:55,166 TALK WITH HIS FRIENDS, TELL THEM, "LET IT GO. 102 00:05:55,166 --> 00:05:57,467 WE CAN'T FIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING. 103 00:05:57,467 --> 00:05:59,667 LET'S JUST CHILL. LET'S PLAY BASKETBALL." 104 00:05:59,667 --> 00:06:03,333 AND THERE WAS NO DISPUTE OVER EARVIN JOHNSON'S ABILITY 105 00:06:03,333 --> 00:06:05,000 TO PLAY BALL. 106 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,600 HIS TALENT WAS SO GREAT 107 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,300 THAT SOON AFTER HIS VARSITY DEBUT, 108 00:06:08,300 --> 00:06:11,300 A LOCAL REPORTER DAZZLED BY HIS EXPLOITS 109 00:06:11,300 --> 00:06:13,533 GAVE THE BUDDING STAR A NICKNAME. 110 00:06:13,533 --> 00:06:16,433 IN THE BEGINNING, I THOUGHT IT WAS FOOLISH AND DUMB. 111 00:06:16,433 --> 00:06:19,100 I DIDN'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT A NICKNAME. 112 00:06:19,100 --> 00:06:23,200 THEN WHAT HAPPENED WAS YOU START SAYING, "WAIT A MINUTE. 113 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,066 IT FITS MY GAME." 114 00:06:25,066 --> 00:06:26,967 HANGING OUT WITH MY BOYS ON THE STREET CORNERS, 115 00:06:26,967 --> 00:06:29,800 WE USED TO SING TEMPTATIONS SONGS. 116 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,700 THEY STARTED SAYING, "HEY, MAN, MAGIC, THAT'S COOL." 117 00:06:32,700 --> 00:06:34,900 AND THEN PEOPLE ON THE STREET STARTED SAYING, "HEY, MAGIC." 118 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:38,800 AND I SAID, "HMM." 119 00:06:40,133 --> 00:06:43,100 HE BOUGHT INTO IT, AND I THINK HE THOUGHT 120 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:45,834 HE HAD TO KIND OF LIVE UP TO THAT NAME. 121 00:06:45,834 --> 00:06:47,734 AND I MUST SAY THAT HE DID. 122 00:06:50,834 --> 00:06:54,033 HE LOVED IT, THE MORE ATTENTION HE GOT. 123 00:06:54,033 --> 00:06:58,000 HE WANTED ATTENTION FROM ANYBODY HE COULD GET IT FROM. 124 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,333 YEAH, IT DOES. I REALLY LOVE THE GAME, 125 00:07:01,333 --> 00:07:02,567 AND I JUST WANNA WIN. 126 00:07:05,100 --> 00:07:08,166 - He jams it through-- - Earvin Johnson. 127 00:07:08,166 --> 00:07:09,934 EARVIN LOVED TO DRESS-- 128 00:07:09,934 --> 00:07:13,500 NICE SANSABELT PANTS 129 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:16,066 AND OVERCOATS WITH THE FUR AROUND THE COLLAR. 130 00:07:16,066 --> 00:07:19,433 ALWAYS HAD TO HAVE HIS AFRO BLOWN OUT. 131 00:07:19,433 --> 00:07:21,433 HE HAD TO LOOK THE PART, 132 00:07:21,433 --> 00:07:23,166 PLAY THE PART. 133 00:07:23,166 --> 00:07:26,233 EARVIN WAS THE FIRST GUY TO HAVE A POSSE. 134 00:07:26,233 --> 00:07:29,166 HE NOT ONLY HAD A POSSE OF A LOT OF BLACK KIDS, 135 00:07:29,166 --> 00:07:31,700 HE HAD A LOT OF WHITE KIDS HANGING AROUND HIM. 136 00:07:31,700 --> 00:07:34,533 SOME OF MY WHITE FRIENDS WAS LIKE, 137 00:07:34,533 --> 00:07:38,367 "WE'RE HAVING A KEGGER TONIGHT. WHY DON'T YOU COME ON BY?" 138 00:07:38,367 --> 00:07:40,367 AND I'M SAYING, "WHAT'S A KEGGER?" 139 00:07:40,367 --> 00:07:42,400 SO HE SAID, "WELL, WHAT IT IS, 140 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,934 WE GET THIS BIG KEG OF BEER AND YOU JUST GO FOR IT." 141 00:07:45,934 --> 00:07:48,600 "OKAY, WELL, WHAT TIME DOES THE KEGGER START?" 142 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,333 'CAUSE REGULAR PARTY TIME 143 00:07:50,333 --> 00:07:53,433 IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS 10:00, 11:00. 144 00:07:53,433 --> 00:07:55,500 "THE KEGGER STARTS AT 7:00." 145 00:07:55,500 --> 00:07:59,100 I SAID, "THE PARTY STARTS AT 7:00?" 146 00:07:59,100 --> 00:08:01,767 I SAID, "OKAY, MAN, I'M GONNA COME TO THE KEGGER." 147 00:08:01,767 --> 00:08:03,967 WE HAD A GOOD TIME. THE MUSIC WAS KIND OF BAD, 148 00:08:03,967 --> 00:08:06,533 BUT WE HAD A GOOD TIME, YOU KNOW? 149 00:08:06,533 --> 00:08:09,967 HIS SENIOR YEAR, JOHNSON DID AT EVERETT 150 00:08:09,967 --> 00:08:12,066 WHAT HE HAD PLANNED TO DO AT SEXTON-- 151 00:08:12,066 --> 00:08:14,233 WIN THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. 152 00:08:14,233 --> 00:08:16,000 AND WHEN IT CAME TO CHOOSING A COLLEGE, 153 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,367 HE DECIDED TO STAY WHERE THE LOVE WOULD BE ASSURED-- 154 00:08:19,367 --> 00:08:21,133 HOME IN LANSING. 155 00:08:21,133 --> 00:08:24,667 NEXT YEAR I WILL BE ATTENDING MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY. 156 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,467 AT M.S.U., 157 00:08:30,467 --> 00:08:33,834 MAGIC'S STAR QUICKLY WENT NATIONAL, 158 00:08:33,834 --> 00:08:35,300 BUT ATOP THE COLLEGE GAME, 159 00:08:35,300 --> 00:08:38,266 HE SOON DISCOVERED A CERTAIN PRESENCE BESIDE HIM. 160 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,734 THE FIRST TIME I SAW LARRY BIRD 161 00:08:41,734 --> 00:08:44,333 WAS ACTUALLY IN A MAGAZINE, 162 00:08:44,333 --> 00:08:46,333 SAW HIS STATS-- 163 00:08:46,333 --> 00:08:48,300 BLOWN AWAY BY HIS STATS. 164 00:08:48,300 --> 00:08:51,266 BUT LET'S SEE IF HE CAN REALLY DO IT 165 00:08:51,266 --> 00:08:53,300 AGAINST US. 166 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:56,600 AND THAT'S ALWAYS A MINDSET OF BLACK PLAYERS 167 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,066 IF HE'S A GREAT WHITE PLAYER. 168 00:08:58,066 --> 00:09:01,533 IN 1978, AFTER HIS FRESHMAN YEAR, 169 00:09:01,533 --> 00:09:03,867 MAGIC WOULD QUICKLY FIND OUT 170 00:09:03,867 --> 00:09:06,100 WHEN BOTH HE AND BIRD WERE CHOSEN TO PLAY 171 00:09:06,100 --> 00:09:09,767 FOR TEAM USA IN THE WORLD INVITATIONAL TOURNAMENT. 172 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,800 THEY WOULD PUT LARRY BIRD AND I 173 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,633 ON THE SAME TEAM TOGETHER TO SCRIMMAGE, RIGHT? 174 00:09:16,834 --> 00:09:20,767 IT WAS BLOWING MY MIND BECAUSE HE'S DOMINATING JACK GIVENS, 175 00:09:20,767 --> 00:09:23,500 PLAYER OF THE YEAR IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL. 176 00:09:23,500 --> 00:09:27,367 LARRY BIRD IS EATING HIM ALIVE. 177 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,500 I COULDN'T WAIT TO CALL HOME TO TELL MY BOYS 178 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:35,300 THIS DUDE NAMED LARRY BIRD IS FOR REAL. 179 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:37,300 THIS IS THE BADDEST WHITE DUDE 180 00:09:37,300 --> 00:09:40,033 I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE. 181 00:09:40,033 --> 00:09:42,000 I THOUGHT HE WAS VERY GOOD. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. 182 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,567 ACTUALLY, I THOUGHT HE WAS PROBABLY THE BEST GUARD ON THE TEAM. 183 00:09:44,567 --> 00:09:46,667 Earvin Johnson-- look at that! 184 00:09:46,667 --> 00:09:48,166 What a play! 185 00:09:48,166 --> 00:09:51,033 WE DIDN'T GET TO PLAY A LOT, BUT YOU COULD TELL. 186 00:09:51,033 --> 00:09:53,400 I THINK OUR FIRST GAME WAS IN KENTUCKY. 187 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,734 WE GOT ABOUT A 10-, 12-POINT LEAD. 188 00:09:55,734 --> 00:09:58,433 MAN, THEY PUT US IN. 189 00:09:58,433 --> 00:10:01,400 WENT TO 25, 30 JUST THAT FAST. 190 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,266 Fast break again, three on two. 191 00:10:04,266 --> 00:10:06,734 Griffith... 192 00:10:06,734 --> 00:10:09,600 A steal by Larry Bird... 193 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,567 TAKE US OUT, THE LEAD GO BACK DOWN, 194 00:10:11,567 --> 00:10:15,400 PUT US BACK IN, THE SHOW STARTED AGAIN. 195 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,900 WHEN YOU PLAY WITH MAGIC, THERE'S JUST SOMETHING ABOUT IT. 196 00:10:17,900 --> 00:10:20,600 YOU WANNA MAKE THAT EXTRA PASS. YOU WANNA GET THAT REBOUND 197 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,367 AND START THE BREAK. 198 00:10:23,367 --> 00:10:25,633 WE CAME DOWN A COUPLE TIMES, I GO BEHIND MY BACK, 199 00:10:25,633 --> 00:10:28,700 NO LOOK TO HIM, HE NO LOOK BACK TO ME. 200 00:10:28,700 --> 00:10:31,200 AND I'M LAYING IT UP. I'M SAYING, "OH, MAN!" 201 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,700 There's that last play. Magic Johnson going in, drops off to Bird. 202 00:10:34,700 --> 00:10:37,166 Bird puts it back off, inside to Johnson. 203 00:10:37,166 --> 00:10:38,700 Super basketball. 204 00:10:38,700 --> 00:10:40,333 THIS GUY GOT GAME. 205 00:10:40,333 --> 00:10:44,033 THEY HAD SOME WONDERFUL MOMENTS ON THE COURT, 206 00:10:44,033 --> 00:10:46,667 BUT THEY PROBABLY SPOKE TO EACH OTHER FOUR, 207 00:10:46,667 --> 00:10:49,500 MAYBE FIVE TIMES DURING THAT ENTIRE TIME PERIOD. 208 00:10:49,500 --> 00:10:52,400 AND IT WAS MORE LIKE, "HELLO. HOW ARE YOU THIS MORNING, LARRY?" 209 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,433 "I'M GOOD, MAGIC. WHAT DID YOU HAVE FOR BREAKFAST?" 210 00:10:54,433 --> 00:10:56,533 "DON'T REMEMBER. HAVE A NICE DAY." 211 00:10:56,533 --> 00:10:59,266 BUT SUCH CURTNESS WAS HARDLY STRANGE 212 00:10:59,266 --> 00:11:01,200 COMING FROM LARRY BIRD, 213 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,600 WHO WAS NOT ONLY ONE OF COLLEGE BASKETBALL'S BEST PLAYERS, 214 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,133 BUT ALSO ITS BIGGEST ENIGMA. 215 00:11:07,133 --> 00:11:09,533 I THINK HE WAS A MYSTERY TO THE EXTENT 216 00:11:09,533 --> 00:11:11,333 THAT HE WANTED TO BE A MYSTERY. 217 00:11:11,333 --> 00:11:13,266 HE DIDN'T ENJOY DOING INTERVIEWS. 218 00:11:13,266 --> 00:11:16,633 HE DIDN'T GO OUT OF HIS WAY TO DO THEM. HE WASN'T GOOD AT THEM. 219 00:11:16,633 --> 00:11:18,767 HE WAS KIND OF LIKE, "HEY, THIS IS WHO I AM. YOU WANNA KNOW WHO I AM? 220 00:11:18,767 --> 00:11:21,300 WATCH THE GAME. THAT'S WHO I AM." 221 00:11:21,300 --> 00:11:24,433 I START TO READ MATERIALS THAT YOU'RE VERY QUIET 222 00:11:24,433 --> 00:11:26,800 AND YOU DON'T ENJOY TALKING TO NEWSPAPER PEOPLE. 223 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,033 WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT KINDS OF NEWSPAPER PEOPLE. 224 00:11:30,033 --> 00:11:32,300 THERE'S PEOPLE THAT TRY TO PUSH YOU. 225 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:33,900 PEOPLE TRY TO GET THINGS OUT OF YOU, 226 00:11:33,900 --> 00:11:35,700 THINGS THAT DON'T EVEN PERTAIN TO BASKETBALL. 227 00:11:35,700 --> 00:11:37,567 THEY'RE THE TYPE OF PEOPLE I LIKE TO STAY AWAY FROM. 228 00:11:37,567 --> 00:11:39,533 HE DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT HIS FAMILY. 229 00:11:39,533 --> 00:11:42,333 HE DIDN'T WANT HIS MOTHER TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT OR HIS SIBLINGS 230 00:11:42,333 --> 00:11:43,500 TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT. 231 00:11:43,500 --> 00:11:45,800 YOU GOTTA REMEMBER WHERE LARRY CAME FROM. 232 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,800 LARRY WAS RAISED IN A TWO- OR THREE-ROOM HOUSE 233 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,367 ON A RAILROAD TRACK. 234 00:11:51,367 --> 00:11:55,367 THEIR FAMILY PROBABLY LIVED ON $50 A WEEK. 235 00:11:55,367 --> 00:11:56,800 HE WAS RAISED TOUGH. 236 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,000 LARRY JOE BIRD GREW UP IN SOUTHERN INDIANA 237 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,033 IN THE TWIN TOWNS OF FRENCH LICK AND WEST BADEN. 238 00:12:05,033 --> 00:12:07,767 "THE VALLEY," AS LOCALS CALL IT, 239 00:12:07,767 --> 00:12:09,100 WAS A TOUGH WORKING-CLASS AREA. 240 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:11,233 TINY AND REMOTE, 241 00:12:11,233 --> 00:12:14,800 IT WAS ONE OF THE POOREST PLACES IN THE STATE. 242 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,066 I DIDN'T KNOW THAT PEOPLE MADE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. 243 00:12:17,066 --> 00:12:19,633 I DIDN'T KNOW THAT EVERYBODY HAD A FAMILY CAR. 244 00:12:19,633 --> 00:12:22,233 I WAS IN MY OWN COCOON. I WAS IN A SMALL TOWN WITH THE PEOPLE I KNEW, 245 00:12:22,233 --> 00:12:25,100 AND I THOUGHT I WOULD LIVE THERE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. 246 00:12:25,100 --> 00:12:28,867 ARRIVING PEARL HARBOR DAY, 1956, 247 00:12:28,867 --> 00:12:30,600 LARRY WAS THE FOURTH OF SIX KIDS BORN 248 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,200 TO GEORGIA AND JOE BIRD. 249 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,767 EARLY ON, HE AND HIS OLDER BROTHERS 250 00:12:35,767 --> 00:12:38,266 EARNED A REPUTATION AROUND THE VALLEY. 251 00:12:38,266 --> 00:12:40,500 WE WERE ALWAYS CONSIDERED TROUBLEMAKERS. 252 00:12:40,500 --> 00:12:43,333 WE WERE EITHER FIGHTING AMONGST OURSELVES 253 00:12:43,333 --> 00:12:46,600 OR THERE WAS ALWAYS ONE OF US FIGHTING SOMEBODY. 254 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,700 LARRY WAS ALWAYS ONE THAT KIND OF INSTIGATED THINGS. 255 00:12:50,700 --> 00:12:53,667 IF I COULD GET MY BROTHER IN A FIGHT WITH SOMEBODY HIS AGE, 256 00:12:53,667 --> 00:12:55,700 I WAS AS HAPPY AS HELL, 'CAUSE I LIKED TO SEE HIM GET BEAT UP, 257 00:12:55,700 --> 00:12:57,934 AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT WAS. 258 00:12:57,934 --> 00:13:01,934 IF I GOT IN SCRAPE WITH SOME KID, 259 00:13:01,934 --> 00:13:04,166 AND MY BROTHERS DIDN'T COME TO MY SIDE, 260 00:13:04,166 --> 00:13:07,633 THEY KNEW THAT WHEN HE GOT HOME, MY DAD WAS GONNA WHIP 'EM. 261 00:13:07,633 --> 00:13:09,900 LARRY AND MY DAD 262 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:12,567 WERE BEST OF FRIENDS. 263 00:13:12,567 --> 00:13:14,400 THEY DONE EVERYTHING TOGETHER. 264 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,367 WHEN MY DAD WOULD GO OUT TO MY GRANDMA'S HOUSE, 265 00:13:17,367 --> 00:13:20,500 LARRY WOULD ALWAYS GO WITH HIM. THEY'D GO FISHING, 266 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:21,967 DO A LOT OF THINGS TOGETHER. 267 00:13:21,967 --> 00:13:24,967 BUT JOE BIRD ALSO HAD A DARKER SIDE, 268 00:13:24,967 --> 00:13:28,333 STEMMING FROM A TRAUMATIC TOUR OF DUTY IN KOREA. 269 00:13:28,333 --> 00:13:30,333 LARRY REMEMBERS WAKING UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT 270 00:13:30,333 --> 00:13:32,600 HEARING HIS FATHER'S BLOODCURDLING SCREAMS 271 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,900 FROM THE NIGHTMARES HE HAD HAD FROM THE WAR. 272 00:13:34,900 --> 00:13:38,867 WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS FATHER IN THE WAR AFFECTED HIS ENTIRE LIFE. 273 00:13:38,867 --> 00:13:41,800 HE WAS NEVER ABLE TO QUITE GET RID OF 274 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,600 WHATEVER THOSE DEMONS WERE. 275 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,567 A TALENTED CRAFTSMAN, 276 00:13:46,567 --> 00:13:49,500 JOE BIRD STRUGGLED TO HOLD STEADY JOBS. 277 00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:51,500 AND EVEN WHEN HE WAS WORKING, 278 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:54,800 HIS DEMONS WOULD, ON OCCASION, DRIVE HIM TO THE BOTTLE. 279 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,900 THERE WERE TIMES WHEN JOE WENT OUT WITH THE GUYS 280 00:13:56,900 --> 00:14:00,033 AND HAD A FEW BEERS, AND THE WAGES DIDN'T COME HOME THAT NIGHT. 281 00:14:00,033 --> 00:14:02,000 THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN EVERY DAY. 282 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,834 IT HAPPENED ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT WHEN MONEY'S AS TIGHT AS IT WAS 283 00:14:04,834 --> 00:14:08,333 FOR THE BIRDS, ONCE IN A WHILE WAS A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR THEIR FAMILY. 284 00:14:09,667 --> 00:14:11,767 MY MOM SOMETIMES WORKED LATE. 285 00:14:11,767 --> 00:14:14,834 SOMETIMES SHE HAD TWO JOBS, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS. 286 00:14:14,834 --> 00:14:17,600 I WORKED AT SCHOOL DURING MY LUNCH HOURS, 287 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,934 WORKED AT THE LOCAL GROCERY STORE, 288 00:14:19,934 --> 00:14:22,367 PUT UP HAY IN THE SUMMER. 289 00:14:22,367 --> 00:14:25,133 IF YOU WANTED MONEY, YOU HAD TO GET IT ON YOUR OWN. 290 00:14:25,133 --> 00:14:29,066 TO YOUNG LARRY, ACTIONS SPOKE LOUDER THAN WORDS. 291 00:14:29,066 --> 00:14:31,367 HE WAS VERY QUIET, 292 00:14:31,367 --> 00:14:33,600 KIND OF HUNG TO HIMSELF A LITTLE BIT. 293 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,967 I SAW LARRY TAKE AN "F" IN AN ENGLISH CLASS 294 00:14:36,967 --> 00:14:40,900 BECAUSE HE HAD TO GET UP IN FRONT OF HIS PEERS AND GIVE A SPEECH. 295 00:14:40,900 --> 00:14:42,467 "I WON'T DO IT." 296 00:14:42,467 --> 00:14:45,166 HE JUST COULD NOT GET UP IN FRONT OF HIS FRIENDS AND TALK. 297 00:14:45,166 --> 00:14:47,367 HE WAS THAT SHY. 298 00:14:47,367 --> 00:14:50,567 OF COURSE, NEXT THING YOU KNOW, WHEN HE KNEW IT WAS TIME 299 00:14:50,567 --> 00:14:54,333 FOR ALL OF US TOGETHER AT THE GYMNASIUM, THERE HE'D BE. 300 00:14:54,333 --> 00:14:56,934 THE MINUTE HE'D GET A BASKETBALL IN HIS HAND, 301 00:14:56,934 --> 00:14:59,400 THINGS WERE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. 302 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:00,700 BASKETBALL WAS JUST-- 303 00:15:00,700 --> 00:15:03,734 IT CAME TO ME, SEEMED LIKE EASY. 304 00:15:03,734 --> 00:15:07,600 I DIDN'T HAVE THE QUICKNESS. I DIDN'T HAVE JUMPING ABILITY. 305 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,066 I JUST THOUGHT THE GAME OUT. 306 00:15:09,066 --> 00:15:12,133 BY HIS SENIOR YEAR AT SPRINGS VALLEY HIGH, 307 00:15:12,133 --> 00:15:15,934 LARRY BIRD HAD SPROUTED INTO A STAR. 308 00:15:15,934 --> 00:15:17,900 BUT BIRD WAS FROM THE VALLEY, 309 00:15:17,900 --> 00:15:19,900 HARDLY A HOTBED OF TALENT 310 00:15:19,900 --> 00:15:22,400 IN THE BIG-TIME WORLD OF INDIANA HOOPS. 311 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,400 THE FIRST THING THEY SAY, "WELL, THEY DON'T PLAY NOBODY DOWN THERE. 312 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,266 HE'S FROM FRENCH LICK. 313 00:15:27,266 --> 00:15:29,533 THEY DON'T PLAY NOBODY." 314 00:15:29,533 --> 00:15:31,133 I THINK THAT PUT A CHIP ON HIS SHOULDER, 315 00:15:31,133 --> 00:15:34,567 ALWAYS HAVING TO PROVE WHO HE WAS AND HOW GOOD HE WAS. 316 00:15:34,567 --> 00:15:38,300 HE WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR INDIANA UNIVERSITY'S BOBBY KNIGHT 317 00:15:38,300 --> 00:15:40,533 TO COME CALLING LATE HIS SENIOR YEAR. 318 00:15:40,533 --> 00:15:42,100 AND FOLKS IN THE VALLEY 319 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:44,533 COULDN'T HAVE BEEN PROUDER. 320 00:15:44,533 --> 00:15:47,266 THEIR LOCAL HERO WAS HEADING 60 MILES NORTH 321 00:15:47,266 --> 00:15:50,667 TO PLAY BALL FOR ONE OF THE BEST COLLEGE TEAMS IN THE LAND. 322 00:15:50,667 --> 00:15:53,333 ONCE I GOT TO I.U., 323 00:15:53,333 --> 00:15:55,600 IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG TO REALIZE THAT I WAS 324 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,166 OUT OF MY COCOON. 325 00:15:58,166 --> 00:16:00,967 HAD OVER 30,000 STUDENTS. 326 00:16:00,967 --> 00:16:03,367 DAD DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDS. 327 00:16:03,367 --> 00:16:05,433 FIRST WEEK AND A HALF, 328 00:16:05,433 --> 00:16:07,567 I THOUGHT, "MAN, THIS AIN'T GONNA WORK." 329 00:16:07,567 --> 00:16:10,967 HE LEFT AFTER 24 DAYS. 330 00:16:10,967 --> 00:16:12,934 LET MY MOTHER DOWN. 331 00:16:12,934 --> 00:16:14,900 SHE DIDN'T TALK TO ME FOR TWO MONTHS, 332 00:16:14,900 --> 00:16:18,333 BUT IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAID. TO THIS DAY, I DON'T CARE. 333 00:16:21,066 --> 00:16:23,166 BACK IN FRENCH LICK, 334 00:16:23,166 --> 00:16:25,166 BIRD TOOK TO WORKING FOR THE CITY, 335 00:16:25,166 --> 00:16:27,834 HAULING TRASH AND PAINTING PARK BENCHES. 336 00:16:27,834 --> 00:16:29,967 MEANWHILE, BY THAT WINTER, 337 00:16:29,967 --> 00:16:32,433 HIS FATHER'S DEMONS HAD TAKEN HIM 338 00:16:32,433 --> 00:16:34,600 TO AN EVEN DARKER PLACE. 339 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,266 BY THIS POINT, JOE AND GEORGIA WERE DIVORCED. 340 00:16:37,266 --> 00:16:40,266 AND HE WAS BEHIND IN HIS PAYMENTS TO THE FAMILY. 341 00:16:40,266 --> 00:16:42,567 THE POLICE CAME BY, AND OF COURSE, THEY ALL KNEW HIM. 342 00:16:42,567 --> 00:16:45,266 SO JOE SAID, "HEY, I NEED A FEW HOURS TO GET MY AFFAIRS TOGETHER 343 00:16:45,266 --> 00:16:47,266 BEFORE YOU TAKE ME AWAY," SO HE CALLED GEORGIA 344 00:16:47,266 --> 00:16:49,266 AND HE SAID, "YOU GUYS WILL BE BETTER OFF WITHOUT ME, 345 00:16:49,266 --> 00:16:52,100 AND I'M GONNA TAKE MY LIFE," AND HE PUT THE PHONE DOWN 346 00:16:52,100 --> 00:16:54,600 AND HE KILLED HIMSELF. HE SHOT HIMSELF. 347 00:16:57,033 --> 00:16:59,800 WHEN DAD PASSED, IT HURT LARRY. 348 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,600 I MEAN, THAT WAS HIS BEST FRIEND-- 349 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,767 WAS GONE NOW, 350 00:17:04,767 --> 00:17:07,400 BUT LARRY DIDN'T SHOW IT A LOT. 351 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,200 HE JUST DIDN'T SAY MUCH. 352 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,867 YOU KNOW, HE JUST KIND OF HELD IT WITHIN. 353 00:17:12,867 --> 00:17:16,400 I NEVER HEARD HIM SPEAK OUT ABOUT IT 354 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,100 AT ALL. 355 00:17:20,467 --> 00:17:22,700 I WAS MAD WHEN I HEARD ABOUT IT. 356 00:17:22,700 --> 00:17:26,200 AND I WAS MADDER 357 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,667 AFTER THE FUNERAL 358 00:17:27,667 --> 00:17:30,166 BECAUSE I THOUGHT HE SORT OF 359 00:17:30,166 --> 00:17:32,567 CUT OUT ON US DURING A TOUGH TIME, 360 00:17:32,567 --> 00:17:36,000 BUT HE WENT THROUGH A LOT IN HIS LIFE. 361 00:17:37,367 --> 00:17:39,500 HE DID WHAT HE HAD TO DO. 362 00:17:42,934 --> 00:17:45,767 IF BILL HODGES HADN'T BEEN AS PERSISTENT 363 00:17:45,767 --> 00:17:49,800 AS HE HAD BEEN, LARRY BIRD MIGHT HAVE NEVER EXISTED IN ANY OF OUR MINDS. 364 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,500 I BELIEVE THAT WITH ALL MY HEART. I REALLY DO. 365 00:17:52,500 --> 00:17:55,133 IT WAS BILL HODGES, A YOUNG COACH 366 00:17:55,133 --> 00:17:57,333 FROM INDIANA STATE UNIVERSITY 367 00:17:57,333 --> 00:18:00,333 WHO CONVINCED BIRD TO GIVE COLLEGE HOOPS ANOTHER SHOT. 368 00:18:00,333 --> 00:18:02,967 SO WITH A PROMISE TO HIS MOM TO GRADUATE, 369 00:18:02,967 --> 00:18:05,734 BIRD HEADED TO TERRE HAUTE AND I.S.U., 370 00:18:05,734 --> 00:18:09,500 A SCHOOL THAT NEVER SO MUCH HAD BEEN TO THE NCAA TOURNAMENT. 371 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:12,567 ONCE I STARTED PLAYING, IT WAS THE SAME OLD THING-- 372 00:18:12,567 --> 00:18:15,166 IT WAS A SMALL SCHOOL, AND WE AIN'T PLAYING AGAINST ANYBODY, 373 00:18:15,166 --> 00:18:18,600 WHICH IS FINE. STILL DOMINATED. 374 00:18:43,266 --> 00:18:47,300 BY THE TIME HE HAD LED TINY I.S.U. AS A SENIOR 375 00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:49,000 TO A 33-0 RECORD 376 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,600 AND A SPOT IN THE '79 TITLE GAME, 377 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,400 LARRY BIRD HAD BECOME, ALONGSIDE MAGIC JOHNSON, 378 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,533 THE TALK OF COLLEGE BASKETBALL. 379 00:18:56,533 --> 00:19:00,333 JUST A YEAR AFTER SHARING THE COURT ON TEAM USA, 380 00:19:00,333 --> 00:19:03,600 THEY WERE BACK TOGETHER, AND THE DAY BEFORE THE BIG GAME, 381 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,967 MAGIC COULDN'T WAIT TO GREET HIS OLD PLAYMATE. 382 00:19:05,967 --> 00:19:08,767 INDIANA STATE WAS PRACTICING. 383 00:19:08,767 --> 00:19:11,767 AND WE WERE WAITING IN THE TUNNEL. WE GOT THERE EARLY. 384 00:19:11,767 --> 00:19:15,300 I WANTED TO DEFINITELY SAY HELLO TO LARRY. 385 00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:17,033 WHEN THEY CAME THROUGH, 386 00:19:17,033 --> 00:19:19,800 IT WAS LIKE NOBODY WAS SAYING NOTHING. 387 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,533 I WANTED TO GO TOWARD 'EM. 388 00:19:21,533 --> 00:19:25,333 LIKE HIS GUYS MADE SURE THAT HE DIDN'T SAY NOTHING, 389 00:19:25,333 --> 00:19:27,333 AND THEN THEY KIND OF STARTED SNICKERING. 390 00:19:27,333 --> 00:19:29,700 LIKE MICHIGAN STATE, YOU IN TROUBLE. 391 00:19:29,700 --> 00:19:31,367 WE'RE GONNA KILL YOU GUYS TOMORROW. 392 00:19:31,367 --> 00:19:32,834 I PROBABLY DID SNUB HIM. 393 00:19:32,834 --> 00:19:34,967 I DON'T REMEMBER IT, BUT I'M SURE I DID. 394 00:19:34,967 --> 00:19:38,100 I DIDN'T... 395 00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:39,834 WANT ANY, YOU KNOW, 396 00:19:39,834 --> 00:19:41,834 LIKE I CALL IT "LOVE FEST"-- 397 00:19:41,834 --> 00:19:45,433 HUGGING AND SLAPPING HIGH FIVES WITH OPPONENT. 398 00:19:45,433 --> 00:19:47,900 YOU WERE THERE FOR A REASON. YOU'RE THERE TO WIN A GAME. 399 00:19:47,900 --> 00:19:50,300 THAT JUST SAID, "IT'S ON NOW." 400 00:19:52,066 --> 00:19:54,900 IT IS INDIANA STATE AGAINST MICHIGAN STATE. 401 00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:58,166 I'M BRYANT GUMBEL, AND THE FANS HERE ARE GOING BANANAS. 402 00:19:58,166 --> 00:20:02,266 LET'S FACE IT. IF LARRY BIRD WERE BLACK AND CAME FROM CHICAGO, 403 00:20:02,266 --> 00:20:04,266 IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AS BIG A DEAL. 404 00:20:04,266 --> 00:20:06,133 THEY WERE POLAR OPPOSITES. 405 00:20:06,133 --> 00:20:09,233 ONE BLACK, ONE WHITE. ONE OUTGOING, ONE SHY. 406 00:20:09,233 --> 00:20:11,800 THAT WAS THE CHARM OF THE ATTRACTION. 407 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,934 THE BIRD AGAINST MAGIC, ALL OF THE SUPERLATIVES HAVE BEEN USED 408 00:20:14,934 --> 00:20:17,000 AND BELIEVE ME, ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN WARRANTED. 409 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,734 HEADING INTO THE TOURNAMENT, MAGIC WAS THE BIGGER STAR, 410 00:20:20,734 --> 00:20:23,133 BUT BY TIPOFF IT WAS BIRD, 411 00:20:23,133 --> 00:20:25,400 HAVING HARDLY MISSED A SHOT IN THE SEMIFINAL, 412 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,800 WHO WOULD BECOME THE FOCUS 413 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,266 OF FANS AND MORE IMPORTANTLY OF MICHIGAN STATE. 414 00:20:31,266 --> 00:20:34,367 WE ACTUALLY HAD TWO MEN ON LARRY EVERYWHERE HE WENT. 415 00:20:34,367 --> 00:20:36,367 There he is, Dick. 416 00:20:36,367 --> 00:20:38,400 They have him sandwiched in completely. 417 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,300 I'M SURPRISED THEY DIDN'T PLAY A BOX ON ONE-- FOUR GUYS ON LARRY, 418 00:20:41,300 --> 00:20:44,700 AND ONE ON THE OTHER FOUR, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF TALENT. 419 00:20:44,700 --> 00:20:47,567 IF YOU STOP LARRY, YOU PRETTY MUCH STOP THEM. 420 00:20:47,567 --> 00:20:49,767 Look at the pressure around him-- two, three men. 421 00:20:49,767 --> 00:20:52,033 And he's short. 422 00:20:52,033 --> 00:20:55,166 I DIDN'T PLAY WELL AT ALL. BIGGEST GAME OF MY LIFE, I DIDN'T PLAY WELL. 423 00:20:55,166 --> 00:20:58,667 Way short. 424 00:20:58,667 --> 00:21:02,033 I THINK OUR LENGTH AND OUR SIZE, 425 00:21:02,033 --> 00:21:04,133 OUR JUMPING ABILITY, 426 00:21:04,133 --> 00:21:06,266 WAS ABLE TO BOTHER HIM. 427 00:21:07,300 --> 00:21:10,200 Turn, hanging, can't score. 428 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,166 I DIDN'T SHOOT WELL. 429 00:21:12,166 --> 00:21:14,600 MISSED THREE FREE THROWS. 430 00:21:16,433 --> 00:21:20,100 Larry Bird has had a cold shooting night. 431 00:21:21,367 --> 00:21:23,667 I BATTLED 'EM, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE IT. 432 00:21:27,700 --> 00:21:29,767 Oh! 433 00:21:29,767 --> 00:21:32,200 Oh, there's a pass! 434 00:21:34,567 --> 00:21:36,033 It's all over. 435 00:21:36,033 --> 00:21:37,433 Michigan State University-- 436 00:21:37,433 --> 00:21:41,400 National Champions 1979. 437 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,533 MAGIC, NOT ONLY WERE YOU ONLY A LEADER ON OFFENSE, 438 00:21:43,533 --> 00:21:46,900 I THOUGHT YOU DID A GREAT JOB ON LARRY BIRD IN THE ZONE, DENIED HIM THE BALL. 439 00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:49,266 YES, COACH GAVE US 440 00:21:49,266 --> 00:21:51,000 A GOOD GAME PLAN 441 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,000 TO GO AGAINST LARRY BIRD. 442 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,767 AND ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS GO OUT AND DO IT. 443 00:21:54,767 --> 00:21:57,967 - THAT'S WHAT WE DONE. - CONGRATULATIONS, SUPER BALLGAME. 444 00:22:04,300 --> 00:22:07,533 - IT WAS OVER. - THAT WAS MY FOUR YEARS. 445 00:22:07,533 --> 00:22:11,333 IT WAS DONE. 446 00:22:11,333 --> 00:22:13,233 IT STILL HURTS. 447 00:22:13,233 --> 00:22:17,100 WHEN YOU WIN 33 IN A ROW, YOU WALK INTO A GAME, 448 00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:18,867 YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, 449 00:22:18,867 --> 00:22:21,467 BUT I EXPECT TO WIN. 450 00:22:21,467 --> 00:22:23,567 WE DIDN'T WIN. 451 00:22:26,533 --> 00:22:28,000 TOUGHEST LOSS I EVER TOOK. 452 00:22:31,300 --> 00:22:33,367 I KNEW IT WAS GONNA HAUNT HIM FOREVER. 453 00:22:33,367 --> 00:22:35,667 'CAUSE WE WERE GONNA SEE EACH OTHER A LOT. 454 00:22:41,667 --> 00:22:44,934 THE NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION IN ITS 33rd SEASON 455 00:22:44,934 --> 00:22:46,467 IS TROUBLED BY DIMINISHING CROWDS 456 00:22:46,467 --> 00:22:47,934 AND DECLINING TELEVISION RATINGS, 457 00:22:47,934 --> 00:22:50,934 SIGNS THAT FAN INTEREST MAY BE WANING. 458 00:22:50,934 --> 00:22:53,500 IF COLLEGE BASKETBALL WAS FLOURISHING AT THE END 459 00:22:53,500 --> 00:22:57,500 OF THE 1970s, THE PRO GAME WAS CRUMBLING. 460 00:22:57,500 --> 00:22:59,834 AFTER THE GOLDEN ERA OF BILL RUSSELL 461 00:22:59,834 --> 00:23:01,800 AND JERRY WEST IN THE 1960s, 462 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,400 A MERGER WITH THE A.B.A. IN 1976 HAD LED NOT ONLY 463 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,300 TO NEW TEAMS, BUT A NEW TEMPERAMENT. 464 00:23:08,300 --> 00:23:12,166 IT WAS A NEW LEAGUE WITH NEW TIMES WITH RENEGADES, 465 00:23:12,166 --> 00:23:14,266 WITH INDIVIDUALS. 466 00:23:16,033 --> 00:23:19,567 THERE WAS AN ARGUMENT MADE, PLAUSIBLY, I THINK, 467 00:23:19,567 --> 00:23:21,066 THAT IT WAS TOO BLACK A LEAGUE 468 00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:23,100 FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN THE LATE 1970s. 469 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:26,934 YOU THINK ABOUT THE KNICKERBOCKERS AT THE TIME, 470 00:23:26,934 --> 00:23:29,500 THE RUNNING JOKE WAS IT WAS THE NIGGER-BOCKERS. 471 00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:33,200 THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. IT WAS THE "N" WORD. 472 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,500 IT'S TURNING OFF A LOT OF WHITE CUSTOMERS 473 00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:38,066 THAT ARE COMING TO THE GAME. 474 00:23:38,066 --> 00:23:40,633 WHY? 475 00:23:40,633 --> 00:23:43,900 I THINK THERE'S A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE WHITE AND THE BLACK, 476 00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:45,633 AND I DON'T ENJOY 477 00:23:45,633 --> 00:23:48,066 GOING TO BASKETBALL AND SEEING ALL BLACK PLAYERS. 478 00:23:48,066 --> 00:23:49,900 I MEAN, WHEN THEY SAID TOO BLACK, 479 00:23:49,900 --> 00:23:52,433 THEY MEANT NOT JUST IN TERMS OF COLOR, 480 00:23:52,433 --> 00:23:53,934 BUT IN TERMS OF STYLE-- 481 00:23:53,934 --> 00:23:57,734 "LET ME GET MINE AND THE HELL WITH YOURS." 482 00:23:57,734 --> 00:24:00,834 BASKETBALL FOR US WAS ABOUT THE BEST MOVES. 483 00:24:00,834 --> 00:24:04,266 YOU WANT IT TO BE THAT BIG PLAYER THAT EVERYBODY TALKED ABOUT. 484 00:24:04,266 --> 00:24:07,467 YOU WANTED TO BE THE ONE. 485 00:24:07,467 --> 00:24:09,800 YOU DIDN'T THINK ABOUT WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS OR TEAM PLAY. 486 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,333 AND THOSE WERE JUST THE ISSUES 487 00:24:12,333 --> 00:24:13,934 ON THE COURT. 488 00:24:13,934 --> 00:24:17,867 THE NBA HAD THIS IMAGE OF AN ALL-BLACK LEAGUE 489 00:24:17,867 --> 00:24:19,934 WITH A BUNCH OF GUYS WHO DID DRUGS. 490 00:24:19,934 --> 00:24:22,166 THE TEAMS WERE LOSING MONEY, AND THEY HAD NO SPONSORS. 491 00:24:22,166 --> 00:24:25,166 AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH A DEATH KNELL RIGHT THERE. 492 00:24:25,166 --> 00:24:27,133 IT'S A KNOWN FACT THAT 493 00:24:27,133 --> 00:24:29,834 YOU NEED YOUR WHITE SUPERSTARS. 494 00:24:29,834 --> 00:24:33,166 YOU JUST NEED MORE WHITE BALLPLAYERS ON THE TEAM FOR THE WHITE FANS 495 00:24:33,166 --> 00:24:35,033 TO IDENTIFY WITH. 496 00:24:35,033 --> 00:24:37,767 AND IN THE NEWEST MEMBER OF THE BOSTON CELTICS, 497 00:24:37,767 --> 00:24:41,033 THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE LEAGUE APPEARED TO BE GETTING. 498 00:24:41,033 --> 00:24:44,433 THERE'S HOPE HE CAN HELP SOLVE PROFESSIONAL BASKETBALL'S DIFFICULTIES, 499 00:24:44,433 --> 00:24:48,400 WHICH SOME SAY ARE COMPOUNDED BY A QUESTION OF BLACK AND WHITE. 500 00:24:49,834 --> 00:24:52,500 - THE GREAT WHITE HOPE. - WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 501 00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:55,767 WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY HARD TO SAY 502 00:24:55,767 --> 00:24:58,567 BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT WHITE PLAYERS AROUND, 503 00:24:58,567 --> 00:25:01,066 AND I JUST HOPE THAT I CAN JUST FIT IN AS WELL 504 00:25:01,066 --> 00:25:02,834 AS SOME OF THEM THAT HAVE FIT IN. 505 00:25:02,834 --> 00:25:06,066 HE RAN AWAY FROM THAT DESIGNATION. 506 00:25:06,066 --> 00:25:08,066 HE MADE IT VERY CLEAR, 507 00:25:08,066 --> 00:25:10,233 ALMOST FROM DAY ONE, 508 00:25:10,233 --> 00:25:12,500 THAT HE WAS NOT THE GREAT WHITE HOPE. 509 00:25:12,500 --> 00:25:15,667 THE GREAT PLAYERS ARE THE BLACK PLAYERS, AND THEY'RE THE BEST. 510 00:25:15,667 --> 00:25:18,500 SUCH DEFERENCE MEANT LITTLE TO BLACK CELTICS 511 00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:21,100 LIKE CURTIS ROWE, SIDNEY WICKS 512 00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:23,133 AND CEDRIC MAXWELL, 513 00:25:23,133 --> 00:25:25,533 WHO LOOKED AT BIRD AND SAW NOT THE GREAT WHITE HOPE, 514 00:25:25,533 --> 00:25:27,867 BUT ANOTHER CASE OF GREAT WHITE HYPE. 515 00:25:27,867 --> 00:25:30,333 HE DIDN'T IMPRESS ME NO MORE THAN ANY OTHER 516 00:25:30,333 --> 00:25:32,433 WHITE GUY I'VE EVER SEEN PLAY BEFORE. 517 00:25:32,433 --> 00:25:34,233 I THINK THAT YOU WOULD SAY THAT MOST BLACK PLAYERS 518 00:25:34,233 --> 00:25:36,100 AT THE TIME WERE RACIST, 519 00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:38,800 IN THE SENSE THAT WE DID NOT THINK 520 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,800 THAT YOU COULD FIND A WHITE GUY 521 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,300 WHO COULD PLAY BETTER THAN ANY BLACK GUY. 522 00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:45,934 WHEN I WALK IN THE FIRST DAY OF CAMP, 523 00:25:45,934 --> 00:25:48,233 THEM GUYS WERE ON THE FLOOR STRETCHING, 524 00:25:48,233 --> 00:25:50,233 AND "HERE COMES THE WHITE SAVIOR. 525 00:25:50,233 --> 00:25:52,433 HERE COMES THIS, HERE COMES THAT." 526 00:25:52,433 --> 00:25:55,767 I SORT OF ENJOYED IT, 'CAUSE I KNEW I WAS GONNA BATTLE 'EM ALL DAY. 527 00:25:55,767 --> 00:25:57,734 BUT CURTIS AND SIDNEY DIDN'T LAST LONG. 528 00:25:57,734 --> 00:26:00,333 THEY DIDN'T EVEN MAKE IT THROUGH THE FIRST PRACTICE. 529 00:26:00,333 --> 00:26:02,600 THEY WERE CUT. SO THEN IT WAS JUST CEDRIC. 530 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,700 I'M THINKING, "HE'S SLOW. HE CAN'T GET OFF A SHOT. 531 00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:07,667 HE'S NOT THAT STRONG. 532 00:26:07,667 --> 00:26:10,467 THIS IS GONNA BE A LAYUP." 533 00:26:10,467 --> 00:26:12,533 BAM! KNOCKS DOWN A JUMP SHOT. 534 00:26:12,533 --> 00:26:15,767 IT'S OKAY. MAYBE THAT WAS LUCK. 535 00:26:15,767 --> 00:26:19,467 GETS THE BALL AGAIN. 536 00:26:19,467 --> 00:26:21,200 BAM! KNOCKS DOWN ANOTHER JUMP SHOT. 537 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,266 NOW I'M THINKING LIKE, "OKAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? 538 00:26:24,266 --> 00:26:27,133 I'M GONNA 'D' THIS GUY UP. I'M GONNA SHOW HIM WHAT IT'S LIKE." 539 00:26:27,133 --> 00:26:28,767 20 FEET AWAY. 540 00:26:28,767 --> 00:26:30,800 BAM! 25 FEET AWAY. BAM! 541 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,266 MY MIND JUST-- 542 00:26:33,266 --> 00:26:35,266 "DAMN, THIS WHITE GUY CAN PLAY." 543 00:26:35,266 --> 00:26:38,433 IT WAS A GOOD THING TOO. 544 00:26:38,433 --> 00:26:42,200 THE STORIED CELTICS MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE WINNINGEST TEAM IN NBA HISTORY, 545 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,133 BUT THEY WERE FRESH OFF THEIR WORSE SEASON 546 00:26:44,133 --> 00:26:46,533 IN 30 YEARS. 547 00:26:46,533 --> 00:26:48,533 AND IN BIRD, THEY HAD A PLAYER 548 00:26:48,533 --> 00:26:51,266 WHO WAS NOT ONLY SUPREMELY TALENTED, 549 00:26:51,266 --> 00:26:53,700 BUT TOUGH ENOUGH TO TAKE ON ANY CHALLENGE. 550 00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:56,900 I ALWAYS PLAYED LIKE EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD WAS AGAINST ME. 551 00:26:56,900 --> 00:26:58,834 THOUGHT EVERYBODY WAS AGAINST ME, 552 00:26:58,834 --> 00:27:02,767 USED TO THINK UP THINGS TO GET ME RATTLED BEFORE A GAME. 553 00:27:02,767 --> 00:27:05,800 HE KNEW HOW TO FIGHT. I KNOW THAT FROM OFF THE FLOOR. 554 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,734 ONE NIGHT SOMEBODY WAS GIVING ONE 555 00:27:08,734 --> 00:27:10,567 OF HIS BUDDIES A HARD TIME, 556 00:27:10,567 --> 00:27:13,600 AND LARRY WENT OVER AND SAID, "HEY, THIS IS MY FRIEND." 557 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,467 THIS GUY WAS A PRETTY GOOD SIZED GUY. 558 00:27:16,467 --> 00:27:19,467 THEY GO OUT BACK AND THE GUY TURNS AND SAYS SOMETHING TO LARRY, 559 00:27:19,467 --> 00:27:22,900 AND I MEAN, LARRY HIT THIS GUY AND I CAUGHT HIM. 560 00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:26,500 HIT HIM SO HARD, I GO, "WHOA!" 561 00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:29,734 HE WAS FROM THE OLD SCHOOL. THAT'S HOW HE PLAYED. 562 00:27:29,734 --> 00:27:32,834 Larry Bird plays it to the hilt, baby. 563 00:27:32,834 --> 00:27:36,667 I PLAYED THE GAME HARD, PLAYED ROUGH. 564 00:27:36,667 --> 00:27:39,600 THERE WAS NO FRILLS ABOUT HIM. 565 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,800 HE CAME IN. HE THREW ELBOWS. 566 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,233 THERE WAS NOTHING SMOOTH ABOUT LARRY. 567 00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:51,300 NEW ENGLANDERS LIKE THAT. THEY'RE HARDWORKING PEOPLE. 568 00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:54,300 THEY LIKE THAT THAT'S HOW PEOPLE VIEW THEM. AND THAT'S WHAT LARRY WAS. 569 00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:57,300 Larry Bird-- follows his own shot. 570 00:27:57,300 --> 00:27:59,133 Oh, what a play! 571 00:27:59,133 --> 00:28:01,233 THEY ALSO LIKE WINNERS. 572 00:28:01,233 --> 00:28:03,900 WHEN BIRD LED THE CELTICS TO THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP 573 00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:05,967 IN JUST HIS SECOND SEASON, 574 00:28:05,967 --> 00:28:08,800 HE WAS FINALLY ONE OF THOSE TOO. 575 00:28:10,767 --> 00:28:12,633 BOSTON LOVED LARRY BIRD. 576 00:28:12,633 --> 00:28:16,667 IT JUST WASN'T SO CLEAR AT FIRST HOW MUCH BIRD LOVED THE CITY BACK. 577 00:28:16,667 --> 00:28:19,867 THERE'S ONLY ONE PLACE I'D RATHER BE-- FRENCH LICK. 578 00:28:19,867 --> 00:28:21,533 THANK YOU. 579 00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:24,600 MAN, LARRY WAS ALMOST AGORAPHOBIC IN HIS TREATMENT 580 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,033 OF ANYTHING OUTSIDE HIS HOMETOWN. 581 00:28:26,033 --> 00:28:28,266 HE WANTED TO BE THE WIZARD OF OZ. 582 00:28:28,266 --> 00:28:30,066 HE WANTED TO INTIMIDATE PEOPLE 583 00:28:30,066 --> 00:28:32,333 AND KEEP THEM AT BAY. 584 00:28:32,333 --> 00:28:36,066 "THE FURTHER WE ARE AWAY FROM EACH OTHER, THE MORE I LIKE IT." 585 00:28:36,066 --> 00:28:39,500 I HAD A NICE LITTLE HOUSE. 586 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:42,000 I HAD MY LITTLE YARD. 587 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,600 I WANNA GO FROM THERE TO PRACTICE, BACK. 588 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,800 IF WE HAD A GAME COMING UP, I WANNA GO THERE, 589 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,934 TO THE GAME AND BACK HOME. 590 00:28:48,934 --> 00:28:50,867 IT WAS ALL BASKETBALL. 591 00:28:50,867 --> 00:28:53,033 MY WHOLE LIFE WAS BASKETBALL. 592 00:28:53,033 --> 00:28:55,834 IF HE WAS JUST SITTING THERE, IT WAS JUST ME, 593 00:28:55,834 --> 00:28:57,834 YOU WERE LOOKING AROUND MUMBLING, 594 00:28:57,834 --> 00:28:59,834 TRYING TO FIND THINGS THAT WE HAD IN COMMON THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT. 595 00:28:59,834 --> 00:29:02,667 WE START TALKING ABOUT BASKETBALL, ABOUT PLAYERS, 596 00:29:02,667 --> 00:29:04,400 YOU KNOW, IT WAS GREAT. 597 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,633 U.S. HISTORY? NO. 598 00:29:06,633 --> 00:29:09,033 WE FORCED PASSES. WE MADE ERRORS DOWN THE STRETCH. 599 00:29:09,033 --> 00:29:10,867 DAILY EVENTS? NO. 600 00:29:10,867 --> 00:29:13,166 I MADE THE SHOT AND FROM THEN ON, WE WAS UP BY TWO. 601 00:29:13,166 --> 00:29:15,433 AND THEY HAD TO GET BACK IN THE GAME, WHICH THEY DID. 602 00:29:15,433 --> 00:29:17,166 POLITICS? NO. 603 00:29:17,166 --> 00:29:20,233 TRY NOT TO DO ANYTHING I CAN'T DO OR DO NO MORE THAN WHAT I CAN DO. 604 00:29:20,233 --> 00:29:22,066 I JUST DO MY BASIC GAME. 605 00:29:22,066 --> 00:29:25,967 HE PROUDLY DUBBED HIMSELF "THE HICK FROM FRENCH LICK." 606 00:29:25,967 --> 00:29:28,166 AND HE LOOKED EVERY BIT THE PART, 607 00:29:28,166 --> 00:29:30,233 BUT THOSE WHO PLAYED HIM FOR SIMPLE 608 00:29:30,233 --> 00:29:32,233 DID SO AT THEIR OWN PERIL. 609 00:29:32,233 --> 00:29:35,500 ONE OF THE GREAT WAYS I THINK OF WINDING UP WITH NO MONEY IN YOUR POCKET 610 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:37,433 IS TO THINK LARRY BIRD IS DUMB. 611 00:29:37,433 --> 00:29:39,800 SYNTAX IS NOT INTELLIGENCE. 612 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,367 UNLETTERED IS NOT STUPID. 613 00:29:41,367 --> 00:29:43,367 HE'S GOT A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR. 614 00:29:43,367 --> 00:29:44,800 HE JUST DIDN'T SHOW THAT TO PEOPLE. 615 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,333 THAT DIDN'T MEAN HE DIDN'T HAVE IT. 616 00:29:46,333 --> 00:29:48,300 HE DID, HOWEVER, 617 00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:50,800 ALLOW THE PUBLIC ONE SMALL INDULGENCE. 618 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,166 YOU COULD COME OUT ON SATURDAY AND WATCH HIM MOW HIS LAWN. 619 00:29:54,166 --> 00:29:56,367 HUGE CROWDS STOOD AND STOPPED. 620 00:29:56,367 --> 00:29:59,467 LARRY BIRD'S CUTTING GRASS IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE. 621 00:29:59,467 --> 00:30:02,467 HE'S MOWING HIS LAWN 622 00:30:02,467 --> 00:30:04,400 IN THE SPRINGTIME. 623 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,967 LARRY IS ABOUT DOING THINGS HIMSELF. 624 00:30:06,967 --> 00:30:09,734 I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MADE HIM SO BELOVED IN BOSTON. 625 00:30:09,734 --> 00:30:13,066 BUT AS BIRD NAVIGATED THROUGH HIS NEW WORLD, 626 00:30:13,066 --> 00:30:16,300 HE STILL HAD ONE EYE FIXED ON A FAMILIAR FOE 627 00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:18,800 IN A FARAWAY LAND. 628 00:30:23,066 --> 00:30:25,867 WHAT TRIPPED ME OUT WAS, I'M RIDING, RIGHT? 629 00:30:25,867 --> 00:30:28,700 I'M RIDING IN THE LIMO. 630 00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:32,367 I'M SEEING ORANGE TREES AND LEMON TREES 631 00:30:32,367 --> 00:30:33,867 IN PEOPLE'S FRONT YARDS. 632 00:30:33,867 --> 00:30:37,734 SAID, "STOP. I GOTTA GO PICK AN ORANGE." 633 00:30:37,734 --> 00:30:40,967 "ARE YOU CRAZY?" I SAID, "NO, I GOTTA DO THIS." 634 00:30:40,967 --> 00:30:45,233 AND SO I RAN UP LIKE A SCARED LITTLE KID, 635 00:30:45,233 --> 00:30:47,734 GRABBED IT AND RAN BACK TO THE LIMO. 636 00:30:47,734 --> 00:30:50,200 I NEVER SEEN AN ORANGE TREE. 637 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,867 I HAD NEVER SEEN A LEMON TREE. 638 00:30:52,867 --> 00:30:54,266 I WAS FASCINATED. 639 00:30:54,266 --> 00:30:56,467 WHEN 20-YEAR-OLD EARVIN JOHNSON 640 00:30:56,467 --> 00:30:59,433 ARRIVED IN LOS ANGELES IN THE FALL OF 1979, 641 00:30:59,433 --> 00:31:01,467 HE WAS A WORLD AWAY FROM LANSING, 642 00:31:01,467 --> 00:31:04,467 THE ONLY HOME HE'D EVER KNOWN. 643 00:31:04,467 --> 00:31:06,500 HE WAS THE NUMBER-ONE PICK OF THE L.A. LAKERS-- 644 00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:10,000 A ONCE DOMINANT FRANCHISE STUCK IN MEDIOCRITY. 645 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,233 IN THE STOIC KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR, 646 00:31:12,233 --> 00:31:14,233 THE LAKERS HAD TALENT. 647 00:31:14,233 --> 00:31:16,467 WHAT THEY LACKED WAS ENERGY. 648 00:31:16,467 --> 00:31:20,367 EARVIN MAGIC JOHNSON WAS ONLY TOO HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT. 649 00:31:25,367 --> 00:31:28,600 LIT THE PLACE UP. CHANGED THE FRANCHISE. 650 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,233 CHANGED THE TEMPERAMENT. CHANGED HER FROM THE VERY FIRST GAME. 651 00:31:31,233 --> 00:31:35,066 Sky-hook, up and good! 652 00:31:35,066 --> 00:31:36,433 Lakers win! 653 00:31:36,433 --> 00:31:39,934 HERE IT WAS THE FIRST GAME OF A LONG SEASON 654 00:31:39,934 --> 00:31:42,900 AGAINST THE LOWLY CLIPPERS 655 00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:46,700 AND MAGIC WAS EMBRACING KAREEM AS IF... 656 00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:48,867 THEY'D JUST WON THEIR 10th STRAIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP. 657 00:31:48,867 --> 00:31:52,767 IT WAS LIKE, "MAN, THIS IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF DUDE." 658 00:31:56,867 --> 00:31:59,233 FROM THE DAY HE ARRIVED, 659 00:31:59,233 --> 00:32:01,100 HE BECAME THE PRINCE OF THE CITY. 660 00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:03,834 HE REMINDED ME OF A GUY WHO WAKES UP WITHOUT AN ALARM CLOCK, 661 00:32:03,834 --> 00:32:05,300 AND THAT'S WHAT I USED TO ALWAYS SAY. 662 00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:07,633 I WANNA BE HAPPY ENOUGH TO WAKE UP WITHOUT AN ALARM CLOCK, 663 00:32:07,633 --> 00:32:10,200 'CAUSE I WANT TO GO INTO MY WORLD. 664 00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:18,333 - HE HAD "IT"-- - WHAT "IT" IS. 665 00:32:18,333 --> 00:32:21,567 AS FAR AS I WAS CONCERNED, THE IT WAS NOT HIS ABILITY, 666 00:32:21,567 --> 00:32:23,233 OR HIS SIZE. 667 00:32:23,233 --> 00:32:26,133 THE IT WAS HIS ATTITUDE, WAS HIS LEADERSHIP, WAS HIS MIND. 668 00:32:26,133 --> 00:32:28,133 I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE TO TALK 669 00:32:28,133 --> 00:32:30,500 ABOUT GAME 6 AT PHILADELPHIA. 670 00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:33,400 IN HIS ROOKIE SEASON, 671 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,400 MAGIC HAD HELPED LEAD THE LAKERS TO THE NBA FINALS 672 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,200 AGAINST THE PHILADELPHIA 76ers. 673 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,100 IN GAME 6, WITH AN INJURED ABDUL-JABBAR BACK HOME IN L.A., 674 00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:44,667 MAGIC PLAYED ALL FIVE POSITIONS, 675 00:32:44,667 --> 00:32:47,333 SCORED 42 POINTS, GRABBED 15 REBOUNDS 676 00:32:47,333 --> 00:32:49,667 AND DISHED OUT SEVEN ASSISTS, 677 00:32:49,667 --> 00:32:51,767 LEADING THE LAKERS TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP. 678 00:32:51,767 --> 00:32:55,000 IN JUST FOUR YEARS, HE HAD WON TITLES IN HIGH SCHOOL, 679 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,500 COLLEGE AND THE PROS. 680 00:32:57,500 --> 00:33:00,467 MAGIC, WHAT DO YOU HAVE THAT MAKES YOU PERFORM LIKE THIS 681 00:33:00,467 --> 00:33:02,033 IN THESE CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES? 682 00:33:02,033 --> 00:33:05,300 WELL, I DON'T KNOW. JUST, I LOVE TO WIN. 683 00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:08,066 ACROSS THE MASTHEAD OF "THE LOS ANGELES TIMES" 684 00:33:08,066 --> 00:33:10,867 THE NEXT DAY, IT SAID, "IT'S MAGIC!" 685 00:33:10,867 --> 00:33:13,400 HE WAS A STAR WHEN HE FIRST ARRIVED HERE, 686 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,767 COMING OFF THE NCAA GAME. 687 00:33:15,767 --> 00:33:17,433 AND QUICKLY DURING THAT FIRST SEASON, 688 00:33:17,433 --> 00:33:19,834 HE BECAME ONE OF THE STARS IN TOWN, 689 00:33:19,834 --> 00:33:22,567 BUT THAT GAME PUT HIM ON ANOTHER LEVEL. 690 00:33:22,567 --> 00:33:24,667 THAT MADE HIM THE STAR IN TOWN. 691 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,767 IT'S FUNNY HOW I WANTED TO MEET THE CELEBRITIES, 692 00:33:31,767 --> 00:33:34,867 BUT THEY WANTED TO MEET ME. I WAS, LIKE, SHOCKED. 693 00:33:37,333 --> 00:33:38,934 LIKE, "WOW, YOU KNOW WHO I AM?" 694 00:33:38,934 --> 00:33:41,333 HE WAS YOUNG, FAMOUS, 695 00:33:41,333 --> 00:33:43,433 AND AFTER LAKERS' OWNER JERRY BUSS SIGNED HIM 696 00:33:43,433 --> 00:33:47,066 TO A 25-YEAR $25 MILLION CONTRACT, 697 00:33:47,066 --> 00:33:48,500 VERY RICH. 698 00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:50,500 THE KID FROM LANSING WAS READY 699 00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:52,367 TO SAMPLE A DIFFERENT KIND OF FRUIT. 700 00:33:52,367 --> 00:33:56,200 HIS PLAYBOY BOSS KNEW ALL THE RIPEST TREES. 701 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,900 I SAID, "OH, I'M HANGING WITH HIM." 702 00:33:57,900 --> 00:33:59,500 WHEN THEY WERE COMING INTO THE BOX, 703 00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:01,567 AND HE HAD 10, 20 OF 'EM, 704 00:34:01,567 --> 00:34:03,667 AND "LOOK, EARVIN, WHICH ONE YOU WANT?" 705 00:34:03,667 --> 00:34:06,667 I WAS LIKE, "OH, OKAY, IT'S LIKE THAT?" 706 00:34:06,667 --> 00:34:10,600 AND THEN HE SAID, "I'M GONNA TAKE YOU TO THE PLAYBOY MANSION." 707 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,133 "WHAT-- THE MANSION?! 708 00:34:13,133 --> 00:34:16,033 NO, YOU'RE KIDDING." HE SAID, "YEP." 709 00:34:16,033 --> 00:34:18,100 SO I WENT THERE. 710 00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:20,934 MY FIRST TIME I'M BACKING UP LIKE, "I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M IN." 711 00:34:20,934 --> 00:34:24,633 BUT I'M BACKING UP AWAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE I'M SCARED TO DEATH. 712 00:34:24,633 --> 00:34:27,934 PROBABLY 10 GUYS TO 100 WOMEN, YOU KNOW? 713 00:34:27,934 --> 00:34:31,266 EVERYBODY THINK IT'S SEX-DRIVEN, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT. 714 00:34:31,266 --> 00:34:35,266 YOU HAVE DINNER, THEN YOU WATCH THE LATEST MOVIE. 715 00:34:35,266 --> 00:34:38,767 AND THEN OF COURSE, I DON'T WANNA EVER SAY THAT SEX WASN'T INVOLVED. 716 00:34:38,767 --> 00:34:42,300 IF YOU MEET SOMEBODY, THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANTED TO DO. 717 00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:43,767 AND YOU DID THAT, 718 00:34:43,767 --> 00:34:46,600 BUT IT'S REALLY A GREAT EXPERIENCE 719 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,633 TO GO UP THERE. 720 00:34:48,633 --> 00:34:50,900 SO, YEAH, I HAD FUN THERE. 721 00:34:50,900 --> 00:34:53,433 HE CAME TO L.A. LIKE THE PIED PIPER. 722 00:34:53,433 --> 00:34:55,900 PEOPLE WERE GIVING HIM THIS AND GIVING HIM THAT, 723 00:34:55,900 --> 00:34:59,400 BUT HE STAYED PRETTY GROUNDED TO THE GAME. 724 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,166 EVERYBODY WAS GETTING HIGH THEN, 725 00:35:01,166 --> 00:35:03,133 BUT YOU CAN'T EVEN 726 00:35:03,133 --> 00:35:05,767 SMOKE A JOINT AROUND MAGIC. 727 00:35:05,767 --> 00:35:07,934 HE HAD REAL OLD SCHOOL, 728 00:35:07,934 --> 00:35:10,500 DOWN-IN-THE-TRENCHES WORK ETHIC, 729 00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:12,734 AND THAT WAS HONED IN HIM 730 00:35:12,734 --> 00:35:15,667 BY HIS DAD, EARVIN JOHNSON SENIOR. 731 00:35:15,667 --> 00:35:18,333 MAGIC WAS ALWAYS THIS GUY. 732 00:35:18,333 --> 00:35:20,467 YOU KNOW? HE NEVER DID NONE OF THAT, 733 00:35:20,467 --> 00:35:22,367 SO I DID EVERYTHING FOR HIM. 734 00:35:22,367 --> 00:35:26,100 MAGIC JOHNSON WAS LIVING ON A NATURAL HIGH. 735 00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:29,066 HE WAS STARRING IN THE ROLE OF A LIFETIME-- 736 00:35:29,066 --> 00:35:31,433 POINT GUARD OF A HOLLYWOOD TEAM 737 00:35:31,433 --> 00:35:33,300 WITH AN OFFENSE CALLED "SHOW TIME." 738 00:35:33,300 --> 00:35:37,300 HE EVEN HAD THE ALTER EGO PERFECT FOR THE PRODUCTION. 739 00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:39,834 "MAGIC" WAS HIS STAGE NAME. 740 00:35:39,834 --> 00:35:42,233 EVEN HE WOULD LAUGH ABOUT IT. 741 00:35:45,734 --> 00:35:47,734 HE ALWAYS SAYS THERE'S TWO PEOPLE. 742 00:35:47,734 --> 00:35:49,734 THERE'S EARVIN JOHNSON FROM EAST LANSING 743 00:35:49,734 --> 00:35:51,200 AND THERE'S MAGIC JOHNSON FROM HOLLYWOOD. 744 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,967 EARVIN JOHNSON IS ANOTHER GUY. 745 00:35:53,967 --> 00:35:56,567 YOU KNOW, HERE'S MAGIC OVER HERE, 746 00:35:56,567 --> 00:35:58,233 AND HERE'S EARVIN OVER HERE. 747 00:35:58,233 --> 00:36:00,567 EARVIN'S THIS FUN-LOVING GUY. 748 00:36:00,567 --> 00:36:03,000 GERONIMO! 749 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,767 OH! 750 00:36:05,767 --> 00:36:09,133 MAGIC WAS SO SERIOUS 751 00:36:09,133 --> 00:36:11,333 AND DEDICATED TO HIS GAME. 752 00:36:11,333 --> 00:36:15,166 AND HE WAS A CRAZY, CRAZY COMPETITOR 753 00:36:15,166 --> 00:36:16,734 AND A CRAZY MAN. 754 00:36:16,734 --> 00:36:18,700 EARVIN, I THINK, 755 00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:21,433 IS THE SMILING KID FROM LANSING. 756 00:36:21,433 --> 00:36:25,100 I THINK EARVIN DIED ABOUT 25 MINUTES 757 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:27,033 AFTER THE NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. 758 00:36:27,033 --> 00:36:29,900 EARVIN DOESN'T HAVE THE EGO THAT MAGIC HAS. 759 00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:32,200 MAGIC GOT A CRAZY EGO 760 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,333 AND WINNING IS EVERYTHING. 761 00:36:35,333 --> 00:36:38,433 AND EARVIN WANTED TO, ALONG WITH MAGIC, 762 00:36:38,433 --> 00:36:39,734 CONQUER L.A. 763 00:36:39,734 --> 00:36:41,900 AFTER HAVING LED THE LAKERS 764 00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:45,166 TO TWO NBA TITLES IN THEIR FIRST FOUR YEARS IN TOWN, 765 00:36:45,166 --> 00:36:48,734 MAGIC AND EARVIN WERE WELL ON THEIR WAY. 766 00:36:50,767 --> 00:36:52,867 I THINK MAGIC WANTED TO BE FRIENDS WITH LARRY BIRD. 767 00:36:52,867 --> 00:36:55,834 HE WANTED TO BE FRIENDS WITH HIM ON THE WORLD INVITATIONAL TOURNAMENT 768 00:36:55,834 --> 00:36:57,800 AND LARRY JUST WASN'T VERY RECEPTIVE. 769 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,000 I THINK HE WANTED TO BE FRIENDS WITH HIM DURING THE FINAL FOUR. 770 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,033 LARRY WOULDN'T EVEN GO OVER AND SHAKE HIS HAND. 771 00:37:02,033 --> 00:37:04,500 SO NOW MAGIC'S SAYING, "WELL, WHAT'S WITH THIS GUY? 772 00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:06,667 EVERYBODY LOVES ME. HOW COME YOU DON'T LOVE ME?" 773 00:37:06,667 --> 00:37:09,166 THEN THEIR ROOKIE YEAR, THE FIRST TIME THEY PLAY EACH OTHER, 774 00:37:09,166 --> 00:37:11,233 THEY HAVE A VERY HARD FOUL... 775 00:37:13,266 --> 00:37:14,934 ...AND THEY HAVE TO BE SEPARATED A LITTLE BIT. 776 00:37:14,934 --> 00:37:16,967 AND MAGIC'S LIKE, "THE HECK WITH THIS GUY. 777 00:37:16,967 --> 00:37:20,500 YOU DON'T LIKE ME? FINE. ALL RIGHT, GOOD. I DON'T LIKE YOU EITHER." 778 00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:24,400 HE'S A VERY COMPETITIVE PLAYER, AND I'M A VERY COMPETITIVE PLAYER, 779 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,000 AND WE GO HEAD TO HEAD AND WE GO FOR BLOOD ALMOST. 780 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,367 THE VIBE, IT WAS NASTY. IT WAS UGLY. 781 00:37:31,367 --> 00:37:33,233 WE DIDN'T LIKE EACH OTHER. 782 00:37:33,233 --> 00:37:36,300 I'M THE ONE THAT DID ALL THAT, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH. 783 00:37:38,834 --> 00:37:41,967 I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO BE HANGING AROUND HIM. THAT WAS MY MAIN COMPETITION. 784 00:37:41,967 --> 00:37:44,834 AND HE COULDN'T ESCAPE THE MEMORY OF LOSING TO HIM 785 00:37:44,834 --> 00:37:47,100 IN 1979. 786 00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:49,166 IT ATE AT HIM BAD THAT HE DIDN'T WIN 787 00:37:49,166 --> 00:37:51,367 THAT NATIONAL TITLE AGAINST MAGIC. 788 00:37:51,367 --> 00:37:54,567 THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT JUST BURNED HIM. 789 00:37:54,567 --> 00:37:57,734 IT WAS ONE THING FOR THEM TO BE IN THE '79 CHAMPIONSHIP. 790 00:37:57,734 --> 00:38:00,133 MAGIC HAD THE BETTER TEAM. EVERYBODY AGREED WITH THAT. 791 00:38:00,133 --> 00:38:02,133 MAGIC HAD THE BETTER GAME, FINE. 792 00:38:02,133 --> 00:38:04,066 NOW YOU GET TO THE PROS-- LARRY HAS THIS INCREDIBLE YEAR... 793 00:38:04,066 --> 00:38:07,400 Bird, a runner, it's good! 794 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,700 ...BUT THERE HE IS WATCHING IN A CLUB 795 00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:12,066 WHILE MAGIC JOHNSON WINS A CHAMPIONSHIP. 796 00:38:12,066 --> 00:38:14,600 HE'S THINKING, "ALL RIGHT, I'M BEHIND TWO TO NOTHING NOW." 797 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,834 I WATCHED THAT GAME, 798 00:38:16,834 --> 00:38:19,133 AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. 799 00:38:21,133 --> 00:38:22,633 I ALWAYS WANTED TO PLAY AT THAT LEVEL. 800 00:38:22,633 --> 00:38:24,867 BUT WHAT BIRD COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE KNOWN 801 00:38:24,867 --> 00:38:27,867 WAS THAT HE HAD INSPIRED MAGIC'S PERFORMANCE 802 00:38:27,867 --> 00:38:31,600 WHEN HE WAS NAMED ROOKIE OF THE YEAR EARLIER THAT SAME DAY. 803 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,567 THE P.R. PERSON FROM THE LAKERS SAYS, 804 00:38:33,567 --> 00:38:36,367 "EARVIN, THE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR VOTING HAS COME OUT." 805 00:38:36,367 --> 00:38:38,667 MAGIC SAYS, "OKAY, WHO WON?" HE SAID, "WELL, LARRY BIRD WON." 806 00:38:38,667 --> 00:38:42,433 AND MAGIC SAYS, "WELL, WAS IT CLOSE?" AND HE SAID, "OH, NO." 807 00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:45,767 HE WENT OUT THAT DAY, 808 00:38:45,767 --> 00:38:47,367 YES, TO TRY TO WIN THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP, 809 00:38:47,367 --> 00:38:50,166 BUT ALSO TO PROVE IT TO ONE LARRY BIRD-- "YOU KNOW WHAT? 810 00:38:50,166 --> 00:38:51,834 I SHOULD HAVE BEEN ROOKIE OF THE YEAR." 811 00:38:51,834 --> 00:38:53,333 EVEN THOUGH I WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP, 812 00:38:53,333 --> 00:38:55,500 I STILL WANTED TO WIN ROOKIE OF THE YEAR TOO. 813 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:58,233 WHEN HE WON THAT CHAMPIONSHIP, I WAS PISSED. 814 00:38:58,233 --> 00:38:59,800 I WANTED ONE. 815 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,367 BUT EVEN AFTER HE HAD WON ONE THE NEXT YEAR, 816 00:39:02,367 --> 00:39:05,667 HIS OBSESSION ONLY GREW DEEPER. 817 00:39:05,667 --> 00:39:07,900 I'D GET UP IN THE MORNINGS AND SEE WHAT HE DID, 818 00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:11,500 'CAUSE THEIR GAMES CAME ON LATE. THEN YOU LOOK AT THE BOX SCORE. 819 00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:13,967 I HAD TO HAVE HIM THERE FOR SOME REASON. 820 00:39:13,967 --> 00:39:17,600 IT WAS LIKE A CRUTCH, SOMEBODY I CAN COMPARE MYSELF TO. 821 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,233 I HATED WHAT WAS BEING SAID, 822 00:39:20,233 --> 00:39:22,166 THAT LARRY WAS BETTER THAN ME. 823 00:39:22,166 --> 00:39:24,934 I'M JUST A GUY WHO CAN CONTROL THE GAME. 824 00:39:24,934 --> 00:39:28,567 MY FIRST FOUR, FIVE YEARS THAT BOTHERED ME A LOT. 825 00:39:28,567 --> 00:39:31,367 I DIDN'T TELL NOBODY IT BOTHERED ME, BUT IT DID. 826 00:39:31,367 --> 00:39:33,967 THEIR COMPETITIVE DISLIKE EMERGED 827 00:39:33,967 --> 00:39:36,767 FROM A GREATER TRUTH-- THAT ON THE COURT 828 00:39:36,767 --> 00:39:38,533 THEY WERE DOPPELGANGERS, 829 00:39:38,533 --> 00:39:41,200 TEAM-ORIENTED STARS 830 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,900 WHO CARED ABOUT WINNING ABOVE ALL ELSE, 831 00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:46,066 BASKETBALL SAVANTS 832 00:39:46,066 --> 00:39:50,133 WHO FUSED THE SUBSTANCE OF THE '60s WITH THE STYLE OF THE '70s 833 00:39:50,133 --> 00:39:52,133 TO CREATE A NEW AND EXCITING, 834 00:39:52,133 --> 00:39:55,000 YET SELFLESS WAY TO PLAY THE GAME IN THE 1980s. 835 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,800 YEAH, I'M GONNA PASS, 836 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,166 BUT I'M GONNA PASS IN A WAY TO MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE A JACKASS. 837 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,567 THEY WERE SO SIMILAR IN THE WAY THEY COMPETED. 838 00:40:05,567 --> 00:40:08,867 THEY WERE TWO HALVES OF THE SAME BRAIN-- 839 00:40:08,867 --> 00:40:12,000 THE SAME CRAZINESS TO EXCEL. 840 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,734 I SEEN THAT THE FIRST COUPLE DAYS I WAS WITH HIM. 841 00:40:15,734 --> 00:40:19,467 - BASKETBALL I.Q. - OFF THE CHART. 842 00:40:19,467 --> 00:40:22,000 SEEING THE GAME A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN MOST PLAYERS. 843 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,133 PLAYING THE GAME THE RIGHT WAY WAS EVERYTHING. 844 00:40:25,133 --> 00:40:28,033 A LOT OF GUYS CAN JUST SCORE, JUST REBOUND. 845 00:40:28,033 --> 00:40:30,667 A LOT OF GUYS CAN JUST MAKE PLAYS. WE COULD DO IT ALL. 846 00:40:30,667 --> 00:40:32,800 LARRY AND MAGIC COULD CONTROL THE GAME WITH 12 SHOTS. 847 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,433 IT WAS AMAZING. THEY'D BE 7 FOR 12. THEY'D HAVE 20 POINTS, 848 00:40:36,433 --> 00:40:38,600 15 REBOUNDS AND 12 ASSISTS. 849 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,667 AND YOU'D GO, "THE GUY SHOT THE BALL 12 TIMES 850 00:40:40,667 --> 00:40:43,934 AND WAS THE BEST PLAYER ON THE COURT BY FAR." 851 00:40:43,934 --> 00:40:46,133 I THINK IT WAS TOUGH AT FIRST. I DON'T THINK EITHER ONE OF THEM 852 00:40:46,133 --> 00:40:49,100 WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THAT THEY HAD ANY EQUAL ANYWHERE IN WHAT THEY DID, 853 00:40:49,100 --> 00:40:51,100 BUT THEY SURE AS HELL DIDN'T WANNA RECOGNIZE 854 00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:53,600 THAT THEIR EQUAL HAPPENED TO BE THAT OTHER GUY. 855 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,066 THAT'S WHY WE HATED EACH OTHER. WE KNEW WE WERE MIRRORS OF EACH OTHER. 856 00:40:57,066 --> 00:40:59,200 I THINK FOR A WHILE THE TWO OF THEM HAD 857 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,233 TO COME TO GRIPS WITH THAT. 858 00:41:01,233 --> 00:41:03,333 THEY HAD BEGUN CHANGING THE GAME, 859 00:41:03,333 --> 00:41:06,000 BUT WITH CONTINUED LOW TELEVISION RATINGS, 860 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,934 AND TAPE-DELAYED FINALS, 861 00:41:07,934 --> 00:41:10,000 THE LEAGUE WAS STRUGGLING TO GET THE WORD OUT. 862 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,533 WHEN THE NBA AND CBS SIGNED A NEW TV DEAL, 863 00:41:13,533 --> 00:41:15,934 BEFORE THE 82-83 SEASON, 864 00:41:15,934 --> 00:41:18,433 THE RESCUE PLAN WAS SIMPLE-- 865 00:41:18,433 --> 00:41:20,300 SELL MORE BIRD AND MAGIC. 866 00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:23,367 AND SELL THEM NOT JUST AS BALLPLAYERS, 867 00:41:23,367 --> 00:41:25,367 BUT AS ARCH-RIVAL CHARACTERS 868 00:41:25,367 --> 00:41:28,133 IN THEIR OWN DRAMATIC SAGA. 869 00:41:28,133 --> 00:41:31,900 YOU GOT THIS SLICK SHOW TIME AFRICAN-AMERICAN GUY OUT WEST, 870 00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:35,033 AND YOU GOT THE LUNCH BUCKET FLOPPY-HAIRED WHITE GUY 871 00:41:35,033 --> 00:41:37,200 WITH THE BRUISES ALL OVER HIS BODY. 872 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,333 IT'S CENTRAL CASTING. IT'S PERFECT. 873 00:41:38,333 --> 00:41:40,400 I MEAN, THIS WAS, LIKE, MADE IN HEAVEN. 874 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,500 IN 1979, THIS IDEA OF MAGIC AND BIRD WAS CREATED. 875 00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:47,433 AND SO THAT WAS SORT OF A NO-BRAINER. 876 00:41:47,433 --> 00:41:50,633 WE'D HAVE A DOUBLE-HEADER. IT WOULD BE THE CELTICS PLAYING FIRST. 877 00:41:50,633 --> 00:41:53,200 AND THE LAKERS PLAYING SECOND. THAT'S THE WAY WE DID IT. 878 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,333 AND WHEN THE CELTICS AND LAKERS BOTH REACHED THE FINALS 879 00:41:56,333 --> 00:41:59,033 JUST A YEAR INTO THE NEW TV DEAL IN 1984, 880 00:41:59,033 --> 00:42:02,100 IT APPEARED THE SUPERSTAR INVESTMENT 881 00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:04,000 WAS ABOUT TO PAY OFF. 882 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,633 IT WAS HUGE. IT WAS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST MOMENT 883 00:42:05,633 --> 00:42:07,200 THE NBA HAD UP TO THAT POINT. 884 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,133 YOU HAD BOSTON AND L.A., EAST AGAINST WEST. 885 00:42:10,133 --> 00:42:12,033 IT HAD ALL THE ELEMENTS OF A CLASSIC SHOWDOWN. 886 00:42:12,033 --> 00:42:14,400 INCLUDING WHAT WAS BECOMING 887 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,867 THE MOST INESCAPABLE ELEMENT OF ALL. 888 00:42:16,867 --> 00:42:20,800 DID WE KNOW THAT BLACKS AND WHITES WERE LINING UP, THE WHITES WITH THE CELTICS, 889 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,767 THE BLACKS WITH OF COURSE WE KNEW THAT. 890 00:42:22,767 --> 00:42:26,633 EVEN IN THE CELTICS' OWN BACKYARD. 891 00:42:26,633 --> 00:42:28,800 THEY LAND AT LOGAN AIRPORT AT THE '84 FINALS, 892 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,800 AND HE'S GETTING ACCOSTED BY VARIOUS PEOPLE 893 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,900 WHO WERE TELLING HIM LARRY'S GONNA TAKE HIM DOWN. 894 00:42:32,900 --> 00:42:35,700 BUT THIS ONE OLDER AFRICAN-AMERICAN GENTLEMAN COMES UP TO HIM, 895 00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:38,567 HE GOES, "MAGIC, I WANNA WISH YOU WELL. GOOD LUCK. CRUSH THE CELTICS." 896 00:42:38,567 --> 00:42:40,600 AND HE SAID, "OH, WHERE ARE YOU FROM?" 897 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,567 HE SAID, "WELL, I'M FROM BOSTON." 898 00:42:42,567 --> 00:42:44,600 AND HE SAID, "YOU'RE FROM BOSTON AND YOU'RE ROOTING FOR THE LAKERS? 899 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,033 I THOUGHT EVERYBODY HERE WAS CRAZY ABOUT THE CELTICS." 900 00:42:47,033 --> 00:42:50,367 AND HE LOOKED RIGHT AT HIM. HE SAID, "NOW WHY WOULD I ROOT FOR THOSE WHITE BOYS?" 901 00:42:51,767 --> 00:42:53,734 NIGGER, GO HOME! 902 00:42:53,734 --> 00:42:56,734 BOSTON AFTER ALL WAS A TOWN STILL SCARRED 903 00:42:56,734 --> 00:42:59,667 BY THE UGLY BUSSING CRISIS OF THE MID '70s, 904 00:42:59,667 --> 00:43:02,800 A VIOLENT PERIOD OF URBAN UNREST DURING WHICH WHITE 905 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,967 HAD BEEN PITTED AGAINST BLACK. 906 00:43:04,967 --> 00:43:06,967 THE RESULTING TAINT ON THE CITY NATIONALLY 907 00:43:06,967 --> 00:43:10,533 COUPLED WITH A BOSTON ROSTER LITTERED WITH WHITE PLAYERS 908 00:43:10,533 --> 00:43:12,633 AFFIRMED TO MANY BLACK AMERICANS 909 00:43:12,633 --> 00:43:14,967 THAT THE CELTICS WERE NOT THE TEAM FOR THEM. 910 00:43:14,967 --> 00:43:18,500 EVEN TODAY, PEOPLE SAY, "YOU PLAYED WITH THE CELTICS. 911 00:43:18,500 --> 00:43:20,400 I HATED YOU AT THAT TIME. 912 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,033 I WANTED MAGIC TO WIN. 913 00:43:23,033 --> 00:43:25,066 I DIDN'T WANT THAT DAMN LARRY BIRD TO WIN." 914 00:43:25,066 --> 00:43:27,500 WE HAD ALL THESE BLACK PLAYERS, 915 00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:30,166 BUT THEY LOOKED AT US, BECAUSE WE HAD LARRY BIRD LEADING US, 916 00:43:30,166 --> 00:43:32,367 AS A TEAM THAT WAS WHITE. 917 00:43:32,367 --> 00:43:35,400 THEY WERE PERFECT ARCHETYPES FOR WHAT WAS BECOMING 918 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,667 THE BIGGEST STORY IN SPORTS 919 00:43:37,667 --> 00:43:39,633 BUT FOR THE REAL LIFE PLAYERS 920 00:43:39,633 --> 00:43:41,667 THE NARRATIVE WAS MUCH SIMPLER. 921 00:43:41,667 --> 00:43:43,567 IT'S FINALLY GONNA HAPPEN. 922 00:43:43,567 --> 00:43:46,500 WE GET TO GO HEAD TO HEAD AGAIN. 923 00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:50,333 IT'S JUST A MATTER OF ROLLING THAT BALL OUT THERE AND LET'S GET IT ON. 924 00:43:50,333 --> 00:43:53,000 Welcome to the Boston Garden 925 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,834 and the start of the NBA World Championship Series. 926 00:43:55,834 --> 00:43:58,834 I'm Brent Musburger. 927 00:43:58,834 --> 00:44:01,700 IN EACH OF THE LAST FOUR NBA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES 928 00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:04,633 EITHER MAGIC OR BIRD HAS COMPETED, 929 00:44:04,633 --> 00:44:07,000 BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE TWO HAVE GONE 930 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,767 HEAD TO HEAD FOR THE TITLE. 931 00:44:08,767 --> 00:44:12,133 BEAT L.A.! BEAT L.A.! BEAT L.A.! BEAT L.A... 932 00:44:14,667 --> 00:44:16,700 MAN, WE JUMPED OUT ON 'EM THAT FIRST GAME. 933 00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:20,100 AND WE WON IN BOSTON. 934 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,633 AND WITH LESS THAN A MINUTE TO GO IN GAME 2, 935 00:44:24,633 --> 00:44:27,033 THE LAKERS WERE CLOSING IN 936 00:44:27,033 --> 00:44:29,100 ON A COMMANDING SERIES LEAD. 937 00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:33,166 - And it's picked off. - And he lays it up and in. 938 00:44:33,166 --> 00:44:35,000 It's all tied up... 939 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,300 FROM THAT POINT ON, THINGS BEGAN TO CRUMBLE. 940 00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:43,433 Down to nine seconds. Magic holds the ball. 941 00:44:43,433 --> 00:44:46,000 Magic trying to work on Maxwell. 942 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,300 Magic has still got it. It's down to two seconds, one second. 943 00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:51,333 He's gonna have to shoot it. He doesn't get it off. 944 00:44:51,333 --> 00:44:53,967 He doesn't get it off! 945 00:44:53,967 --> 00:44:57,133 JOHNSON DRIBBLING THE TIME OUT. 946 00:44:57,133 --> 00:44:59,567 COME ON, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? 947 00:45:01,033 --> 00:45:03,633 THE LAKERS REGAINED THEIR STRIDE 948 00:45:03,633 --> 00:45:05,467 IN GAME 3, 949 00:45:05,467 --> 00:45:09,000 ONLY TO BE RUDELY KNOCKED OFF IT AGAIN IN GAME 4. 950 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,600 - And now let's watch it. 951 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,367 Cooper and the Celtics and now the bench is empty. 952 00:45:16,367 --> 00:45:18,567 WHEN KURT RAMBIS GOT TAKEN OUT... 953 00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:23,834 WE STARTED FIGHTING INSTEAD OF PLAYING. 954 00:45:23,834 --> 00:45:26,166 Kareem-- swings the elbow 955 00:45:26,166 --> 00:45:29,100 and now is yelling at Larry Bird 956 00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:30,800 jaw to jaw. 957 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,667 AND IT MADE US REALIZE 958 00:45:32,667 --> 00:45:35,300 WE WERE NOT MENTALLY TOUGHER THAN THE CELTICS. 959 00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:36,800 MAGIC'S JUST NOT HIMSELF. 960 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,900 They'll be sure they won't let the time run out 961 00:45:38,900 --> 00:45:40,633 as they did in game 2. 962 00:45:40,633 --> 00:45:44,400 Parish steals the ball and the Celtics call a timeout. 963 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,600 THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PLACES WHERE EARVIN DIDN'T DO 964 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,734 WHAT PEOPLE EXPECTED HIM TO DO. 965 00:45:51,233 --> 00:45:54,600 Tied at 123. 966 00:45:55,900 --> 00:45:59,166 - He misses the first. 967 00:46:02,367 --> 00:46:05,333 Johnson misses them both. Celtics want a timeout. 968 00:46:05,333 --> 00:46:08,500 Despondent Magic Johnson goes to the bench. 969 00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:12,266 Bird-- turnaround, hits. 970 00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:20,433 GAME 5 WENT TO THE CELTICS. 971 00:46:20,433 --> 00:46:22,467 GAME 6 TO THE LAKERS. 972 00:46:23,934 --> 00:46:26,767 IT WAS LIKE 1979 ALL OVER AGAIN. 973 00:46:26,767 --> 00:46:29,633 DOWN TO ONE GAME FOR BIRD AND MAGIC. 974 00:46:29,633 --> 00:46:31,300 IF EVERYBODY HAD TO LOOK AT IT, 975 00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:33,567 PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SAID THIS IS GONNA BE A SEVEN-GAME SERIES. 976 00:46:33,567 --> 00:46:35,600 I THOUGHT WE'D SWEEP 'EM IN FOUR, 977 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,567 BUT THIS WENT A LITTLE BIT LONGER. 978 00:46:37,567 --> 00:46:41,367 NOW WE JUST HAVE TO DO IT IN SEVEN. 979 00:46:41,367 --> 00:46:42,867 THAT'S THE ONLY TIME I EVER FELT THAT 980 00:46:42,867 --> 00:46:44,767 AIN'T NO WAY THEY'RE WALKING OUT OF HERE WITH A WIN. 981 00:46:44,767 --> 00:46:48,433 - Magic Johnson... - NO WAY. 982 00:46:48,433 --> 00:46:51,066 Lakers had several chances, 983 00:46:51,066 --> 00:46:54,333 and here's Larry Bird shucking down the court. 984 00:46:57,633 --> 00:47:01,133 Bird. How does he do it? 985 00:47:02,433 --> 00:47:04,633 Now Johnson with the ball. 986 00:47:04,633 --> 00:47:06,834 The Lakers trying to cut it to one. 987 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,900 And he loses it. 988 00:47:22,967 --> 00:47:28,800 The Boston Celtics are the NBA World Champions! 989 00:47:34,367 --> 00:47:36,834 I PRIDE MYSELF IN BEING THE GUY 990 00:47:36,834 --> 00:47:39,467 WHO'S GOING TO WIN IT FOR US 991 00:47:39,467 --> 00:47:43,066 AND DELIVER UNDER PRESSURE. 992 00:47:43,066 --> 00:47:46,667 AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. 993 00:47:46,667 --> 00:47:48,633 I HOPE HE WAS HURT. I HOPE IT KILLED HIM. 994 00:47:48,633 --> 00:47:50,667 HE MADE SOME BAD PLAYS DOWN THE STRETCH 995 00:47:50,667 --> 00:47:52,767 AND NOBODY IN THERE WAS HAPPIER THAN ME. 996 00:47:52,767 --> 00:47:54,600 NOT ONLY WINNING THE GAME MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD, 997 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,000 BUT JUST KNOWING THE OTHER GUY'S SUFFERING, 998 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,400 AND YOU KNOW HE WAS. 999 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,166 I REMEMBER AFTER THE GAME THAT BOTH HE AND I WERE 1000 00:48:00,166 --> 00:48:01,667 IN THE SHOWERS CRYING 1001 00:48:01,667 --> 00:48:05,133 AND STAYED IN THERE FOR ABOUT 35, 40 MINUTES. 1002 00:48:05,133 --> 00:48:09,567 IT WAS HARD, BECAUSE NOT ONLY HAD WE LOST TO THE BOSTON CELTICS, 1003 00:48:09,567 --> 00:48:11,567 HE HAD LOST TO HIS NEMESIS LARRY BIRD. 1004 00:48:14,734 --> 00:48:17,467 I THINK HE JUST MADE ME JUST LIKE HIM MORE, 1005 00:48:17,467 --> 00:48:19,600 BECAUSE HE WAS THAT GOOD. 1006 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,800 AND I THINK YOU'D BE JEALOUS. 1007 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,467 YOU'RE JEALOUS A LITTLE BIT. 1008 00:48:23,467 --> 00:48:26,700 LARRY, DOES THIS GET YOU EVEN WITH MAGIC 1009 00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:29,433 FOR WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN MICHIGAN STATE AND INDIANA STATE 1010 00:48:29,433 --> 00:48:31,433 - WE'RE PROFESSIONALS NOW, 1011 00:48:31,433 --> 00:48:34,033 BUT I WON THIS ONE FOR TERRE HAUTE. 1012 00:48:34,033 --> 00:48:35,500 WELL, IT WAS A BIG DEAL. 1013 00:48:35,500 --> 00:48:36,834 I REMEMBER ASKING QUINN BUCKNER ABOUT IT AFTERWARDS. 1014 00:48:36,834 --> 00:48:38,667 THEY HAD A CELEBRATION IN DOWNTOWN BOSTON 1015 00:48:38,667 --> 00:48:40,767 AFTER THEY WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP, AND YOU KNOW, 1016 00:48:40,767 --> 00:48:43,400 IT WAS UNUSUAL FOR LARRY TO HAVE THESE LITTLE OUTBURSTS 1017 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,967 AS QUINN WOULD CALL THEM. 1018 00:48:44,967 --> 00:48:47,800 ABOUT 11:30 AT NIGHT, FINALLY, HE TURNED TO QUINN, 1019 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,633 HE GOES, "I GOT HIM. I FINALLY GOT HIM." 1020 00:48:50,633 --> 00:48:53,133 AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT MAGIC. 1021 00:48:57,133 --> 00:48:59,800 THE LEAGUE WAS REJOICING, TOO. 1022 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,767 GAME 7 OF THE '84 SERIES WAS ONE 1023 00:49:01,767 --> 00:49:05,333 OF CBS' HIGHEST-RATED TELECASTS OF THE YEAR. 1024 00:49:05,333 --> 00:49:08,967 AND THE HIGHEST-RATED GAME THE NBA HAD EVER PRODUCED. 1025 00:49:08,967 --> 00:49:12,000 ALL OF A SUDDEN, WHETHER IT WAS AT CBS 1026 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,400 OR MADISON AVENUE, 1027 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,400 THE SPORTSWRITERS AROUND THE COUNTRY 1028 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,033 BECAME THE PHENOMENON. WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE? 1029 00:49:19,033 --> 00:49:20,767 THE ABSOLUTE FOUNDATION OF THIS RESURGENCE WAS 1030 00:49:20,767 --> 00:49:22,867 THE CELTICS AND THE LAKERS-- 1031 00:49:22,867 --> 00:49:25,100 LARRY BIRD AND MAGIC JOHNSON. 1032 00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:27,600 BUT MAGIC WAS IN NO MOOD 1033 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,700 TO BASK IN THE ACCOMPLISHMENT. 1034 00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:31,567 I TOOK A MEDIA BEATING. 1035 00:49:31,567 --> 00:49:34,166 "TRAGIC MAGIC," 1036 00:49:34,166 --> 00:49:37,100 "THIS IS WHY WE SAY LARRY BIRD IS BETTER." 1037 00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:39,400 IT'S PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME EVER IN MY LIFE 1038 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,000 I WAS DEPRESSED. 1039 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,600 AND I DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE TO SEE ME. 1040 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,266 IT WAS SOMETHING I NEVER DEALT WITH IN MY LIFE. 1041 00:49:45,266 --> 00:49:49,166 THAT PARTICULAR SERIES, THAT CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES, 1042 00:49:49,166 --> 00:49:52,500 REDEFINED HIS WHOLE CAREER BECAUSE HE NEVER STOPPED WORKING AFTER THAT. 1043 00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:54,633 MAGIC WAS ON A MISSION 1044 00:49:54,633 --> 00:49:56,900 TO PROVE TO HIMSELF AND THE WORLD 1045 00:49:56,900 --> 00:50:00,934 THAT WITH THE BALL IN HIS HANDS, HE WAS STILL THE ONE IN CONTROL. 1046 00:50:00,934 --> 00:50:04,133 AND AFTER HIS LAKERS RAN THROUGH THE '85 SEASON, 1047 00:50:04,133 --> 00:50:06,600 HE QUICKLY GOT WHAT HE WANTED-- 1048 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,867 ANOTHER SHOT AT BIRD AND THE CELTICS. 1049 00:50:08,867 --> 00:50:10,900 THEY WON THE EAST. WE WON THE WEST. 1050 00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:12,900 SO IT'S LIKE, EVERYBODY JUST GET READY, 1051 00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:16,633 SIT BACK AND LET'S ENJOY IT. 1052 00:50:16,633 --> 00:50:19,133 BUT THAT SMILE BELIED THE INTENSITY 1053 00:50:19,133 --> 00:50:21,867 OF THE CLASH THAT AWAITED. 1054 00:50:21,867 --> 00:50:24,333 IF I HAD A GLASS OF WATER, 1055 00:50:24,333 --> 00:50:27,033 AND ANY OF THOSE GUYS HAD BEEN ON FIRE, 1056 00:50:27,033 --> 00:50:30,567 I WOULD HAVE DRANK THE WATER AND WATCHED THEM. 1057 00:50:30,567 --> 00:50:34,433 THEY CALLED US CHOKERS AND SISSIES. 1058 00:50:34,433 --> 00:50:37,834 WE DIDN'T LIKE THAT, AND THEY THOUGHT LESS OF US. 1059 00:50:37,834 --> 00:50:40,000 I KNEW THEY DID. 1060 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,600 IN '85, WE PLAYED 'EM FOUR TIMES IN EXHIBITION SEASON 1061 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,600 FOR SOME REASON. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY SCHEDULED THAT. 1062 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,700 BY THE FOURTH GAME, THERE WAS AN ALL-OUT BRAWL. 1063 00:50:49,367 --> 00:50:51,300 They call this one of the greatest rivalries 1064 00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:55,133 in all of sports-- the Celtics and the Lakers. And if that is true, 1065 00:50:55,133 --> 00:50:58,633 IT IS THE MOST ONE-SIDED RIVALRY IN ALL OF SPORTS. 1066 00:50:58,633 --> 00:51:01,400 Eight times these two have met for the NBA Championship, 1067 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,700 and eight times the Celtics have won. 1068 00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:05,867 At guard, in his sixth year, 1069 00:51:05,867 --> 00:51:09,700 from Michigan State, number 32-- Magic Johnson. 1070 00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:13,767 BUT IN THE '85 FINALS, MAGIC CHANGED THE SCRIPT. 1071 00:51:13,767 --> 00:51:16,200 OVER SIX GRUELING GAMES, 1072 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,567 HE MASTERFULLY CONTROLLED THE PACE WITH ALL AROUND BRILLIANCE. 1073 00:51:19,567 --> 00:51:23,266 He has a triple-double again. 1074 00:51:23,266 --> 00:51:24,734 BEHIND THEIR POINT GUARD, 1075 00:51:24,734 --> 00:51:28,000 THE LAKERS FINALLY KNOCKED OUT THE CELTICS, 1076 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,500 WINNING THE CLINCHING GAME IN THE BOSTON GARDEN. 1077 00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:33,800 Three in six years. L.A. comes to Boston 1078 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,800 and wins the world title! 1079 00:51:38,934 --> 00:51:41,633 REDEMPTION FOR ONE MAGIC JOHNSON. 1080 00:51:41,633 --> 00:51:45,033 IT'S A LONG YEAR LAST YEAR TO WAIT FOR THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW. 1081 00:51:45,033 --> 00:51:47,100 MAGIC HAD EVENED THE SCORE 1082 00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:49,367 WITH BIRD ON THE NBA FLOOR. 1083 00:51:49,367 --> 00:51:51,767 BUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THEIR RIVALRY 1084 00:51:51,767 --> 00:51:55,533 AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP WAS STILL JUST TAKING HOLD. 1085 00:51:57,734 --> 00:51:59,934 "YOU'RE CRAZY." 1086 00:52:01,834 --> 00:52:03,467 I SAID, "YOU'RE CRAZY. 1087 00:52:03,467 --> 00:52:06,600 I'M NOT SHOOTING NO COMMERCIAL WITH LARRY." 1088 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,867 SO I SAID, "OKAY, WHAT, WE'RE GONNA SHOOT IT IN L.A.?" 1089 00:52:11,834 --> 00:52:14,467 - I WOULD NEVER HAVE WENT TO L.A. TO FILM IT. 1090 00:52:19,233 --> 00:52:21,800 IF YOU WANT TO SHOOT A COMMERCIAL, COME TO MY HOUSE. 1091 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,834 I WAS LIKE, "OH, NO!" 1092 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,000 ONE STOPLIGHT. 1093 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,834 AND I THOUGHT LANSING WAS SMALL. 1094 00:52:34,834 --> 00:52:37,400 I THINK THE PLAN WAS, "I'M GONNA GO HERE, 1095 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,367 I'M GONNA DO WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO, 1096 00:52:39,367 --> 00:52:42,467 AND I'M TRYING TO GET UP OUT OF HERE." MY PLAN WAS THAT. 1097 00:52:42,467 --> 00:52:46,200 EVEN AFTER CONVERSE HAD CONVINCED MAGIC AND BIRD 1098 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,200 TO FILM A SNEAKER AD TOGETHER IN THE SUMMER OF '85, 1099 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,900 A QUESTION REMAINED. 1100 00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:53,967 HOW WOULD THE TWO HATED RIVALS ON THE COURT 1101 00:52:53,967 --> 00:52:56,266 GET ALONG OFF OF IT? 1102 00:52:56,266 --> 00:52:59,367 I DON'T KNOW HOW HE'S GONNA REACT. I DON'T KNOW HOW I'M GONNA REACT. 1103 00:52:59,367 --> 00:53:03,266 WE DIDN'T EVEN SHAKE HANDS, SO HOW ARE WE GONNA DO A COMMERCIAL TOGETHER? 1104 00:53:03,266 --> 00:53:06,834 THE AD WAS TO BE FILMED AT THE HOME BIRD BUILT FOR HIS MOM. 1105 00:53:06,834 --> 00:53:09,467 IT FEATURED A FULL-LENGTH BASKETBALL COURT, 1106 00:53:09,467 --> 00:53:11,333 THE DAY'S FIRST LOCATION. 1107 00:53:11,333 --> 00:53:14,500 SO THEY SAY, OKAY, YOU'RE PLAYING ONE ON ONE. 1108 00:53:14,500 --> 00:53:18,600 AND I'M LOOKING AT LARRY. HE'S LOOKING AT ME LIKE, "IS THIS REAL? 1109 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,400 ARE WE PLAYING PLAYING?" 1110 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,033 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THIS IS MAGIC AND BIRD. 1111 00:53:24,033 --> 00:53:26,967 I COULD JUST HEAR LARRY STARTING IN ON, 1112 00:53:26,967 --> 00:53:30,400 "WELL, YOU BRING IT TO THE BASKET, I'M GONNA SEND IT 30 ROWS UP." 1113 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,166 SO THE GUY WAS LIKE, "NO, NOT LIKE THAT. A FUN GAME." 1114 00:53:33,166 --> 00:53:36,133 WE WERE BOTH LIKE, "OH, OKAY." 1115 00:53:36,133 --> 00:53:39,900 LIKE YOU COULD SEE THIS RELIEF COMING OVER BOTH OF OUR FACES. 1116 00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:42,667 THAT BRIEF DETENTE LED 1117 00:53:42,667 --> 00:53:45,367 TO THE NEXT STAGE-- DIALOGUE. 1118 00:53:45,367 --> 00:53:47,800 WE SAT DOWN NEXT TO EACH OTHER. 1119 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,367 "HOW WAS YOUR SUMMER?" "IT'S GOING GOOD. HOW WAS YOURS?" 1120 00:53:51,367 --> 00:53:52,900 "IT'S GOING GREAT." 1121 00:53:52,900 --> 00:53:56,100 I SAID, "MAN, THIS IS A NICE SPREAD YOU GOT." 1122 00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:58,800 HE'S ASKING ME, "IS THIS WHERE YOU PLAY?" 1123 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,533 I SAID, "YEAH, I PLAY HERE IF IT'S NOT WINDY. 1124 00:54:01,533 --> 00:54:03,533 IF IT'S RAINY OR WINDY, I GO TO THE GYM, 1125 00:54:03,533 --> 00:54:05,166 BUT THIS IS WHERE I DO ALL MY WORK." 1126 00:54:05,166 --> 00:54:08,333 "I SEE THAT TRACTOR, YOU WORK ON THE TRACTOR?" 1127 00:54:08,333 --> 00:54:11,100 HE SAID, "MAN, I WORK ON THIS TRACTOR EVERY DAY." 1128 00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:14,533 "LARRY BIRD WORKS ON A TRACTOR?" HE SAID, "YEAH." 1129 00:54:14,533 --> 00:54:16,667 IT'S JUST THEM TWO WALKING AND TALKING. 1130 00:54:16,667 --> 00:54:20,066 AND EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, THEY'D STOP AND ONE OF THEM WOULD SAY SOMETHING, 1131 00:54:20,066 --> 00:54:22,800 AND THEN THEY'D START LAUGHING. 1132 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,867 THEN THEY SAID, "OKAY, BREAK. IT'S LUNCH BREAK TIME." 1133 00:54:25,867 --> 00:54:28,400 I WAS GOING TO MY TRAILER. 1134 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,633 HE SAID, "NO, MY MOTHER HAS PREPARED LUNCH FOR US 1135 00:54:31,633 --> 00:54:33,166 UP AT THE HOUSE." 1136 00:54:33,166 --> 00:54:35,166 WE WENT UP TO THE HOUSE, AND WE SIT DOWN THERE 1137 00:54:35,166 --> 00:54:38,066 AND WE TALKED, AND MY MOM, MY BROTHERS, 1138 00:54:38,066 --> 00:54:39,467 THOUGHT THE WORLD OF HIM. 1139 00:54:39,467 --> 00:54:41,533 HIS MOTHER WAS SO NICE, 1140 00:54:41,533 --> 00:54:44,266 MAKING SURE I HAD ENOUGH TO EAT. 1141 00:54:44,266 --> 00:54:47,166 I JUST SAW MY MOTHER. IT WAS CRAZY. 1142 00:54:47,166 --> 00:54:50,767 - HE CHARMED HER. - YOU COULD SEE IT. 1143 00:54:50,767 --> 00:54:54,233 BUT THAT'S MAGIC. HE MAKES EVERYBODY FEEL WELCOME AND WARM, 1144 00:54:54,233 --> 00:54:57,233 AND HE'S A CON MAN. 1145 00:54:59,533 --> 00:55:02,266 AND WHILE MAGIC CHARMED GEORGIA BIRD, 1146 00:55:02,266 --> 00:55:05,934 IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE WHO INTRIGUED HER SON. 1147 00:55:05,934 --> 00:55:08,133 HE MET EARVIN AT LUNCH. 1148 00:55:08,133 --> 00:55:10,867 EARVIN IS A GOOD DUDE. 1149 00:55:10,867 --> 00:55:13,567 I LIKE EARVIN A LOT BETTER THAN MAGIC. 1150 00:55:13,567 --> 00:55:16,633 I WAS JUST SO HAPPY TO FINALLY BE EARVIN WITH HIM 1151 00:55:16,633 --> 00:55:18,667 BECAUSE MAGIC WAS LIKE, 1152 00:55:18,667 --> 00:55:20,734 "I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO GET TO KNOW THIS GUY." 1153 00:55:20,734 --> 00:55:23,900 BUT EARVIN GOT A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT FAMILY, 1154 00:55:23,900 --> 00:55:25,967 HOW HE GREW UP. 1155 00:55:25,967 --> 00:55:28,300 WE JUST WE JUST BECAME 1156 00:55:28,300 --> 00:55:31,300 TWO RELAXED GUYS JUST TALKING. 1157 00:55:31,300 --> 00:55:34,767 THAT DAY WAS GREAT. IT WAS A GREAT DAY. BEAUTIFUL DAY. 1158 00:55:34,767 --> 00:55:37,734 STILL FOR BIRD, EVER THE COMPETITOR, 1159 00:55:37,734 --> 00:55:41,400 THAT'S ALL IT WAS-- JUST ONE DAY. 1160 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,867 MAGIC THINKS THE NEXT YEAR, "OKAY, WELL, NOW WE'RE GREAT FRIENDS. 1161 00:55:43,867 --> 00:55:47,166 SO AFTER THE GAME, WE'RE GONNA GO OUT. WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BEER." 1162 00:55:47,166 --> 00:55:49,734 AND LARRY'S LIKE, "NO, YOU'RE RIGHT. 1163 00:55:49,734 --> 00:55:51,967 I KNOW YOU BETTER. YOU'RE A GOOD GUY, 1164 00:55:51,967 --> 00:55:53,734 BUT I STILL DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU." 1165 00:55:53,734 --> 00:55:55,367 HE'S A HAPPY-GO-LUCKY GUY. 1166 00:55:55,367 --> 00:55:58,200 IF ME AND HIM GOT TO BE REALLY GOOD FRIENDS, 1167 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,233 GO OUT ON THE COURT, HE COULD STILL PLAY THE SAME GAME. I COULDN'T. 1168 00:56:01,233 --> 00:56:02,767 THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. 1169 00:56:02,767 --> 00:56:06,233 BUT WHEN THE AD HIT THE AIRWAVES, 1170 00:56:06,233 --> 00:56:08,967 FOR OTHERS THE PERCEPTION CHANGED. 1171 00:56:08,967 --> 00:56:12,166 I SAW THOSE LIMOUSINES GOING THROUGH THE CORNFIELDS 1172 00:56:12,166 --> 00:56:16,066 AND I SAID, "NO, THEY DIDN'T SELL THEMSELVES OUT." 1173 00:56:16,066 --> 00:56:19,767 I HEARD CONVERSE MADE A PAIR OF BIRD SHOES 1174 00:56:19,767 --> 00:56:22,834 - FOR LAST YEAR'S MVP. - YEAH. 1175 00:56:22,834 --> 00:56:26,033 WELL, THEY MADE A PAIR OF MAGIC SHOES FOR THIS YEAR'S MVP. 1176 00:56:26,033 --> 00:56:27,700 OKAY, MAGIC, SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT. 1177 00:56:27,700 --> 00:56:30,166 THIS IS REALLY A BUSINESS THING. 1178 00:56:33,033 --> 00:56:35,166 AND MAYBE THAT'S WHERE THE BUSINESS THING STARTED TO GET BIGGER 1179 00:56:35,166 --> 00:56:39,066 AND BEGAN TO TRUMP WHO THEY BOTH REALLY WERE. 1180 00:56:39,066 --> 00:56:42,000 IT POLARIZED THE WHOLE IDEA 1181 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,734 OF LUNCH BUCKET VERSUS HOLLYWOOD, 1182 00:56:44,734 --> 00:56:48,100 WHITE VERSUS BLACK. 1183 00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:50,567 JUST CEMENTED ALL THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEM. 1184 00:56:50,567 --> 00:56:52,367 KIDS WEREN'T WEARING BLACK GYM SHOES 1185 00:56:52,367 --> 00:56:55,734 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE LARRY BIRD CAMP. 1186 00:56:55,734 --> 00:56:57,800 YOU WORE YOUR WHITE CONVERSE. 1187 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,600 THE BASKETBALL RIVALS HAD MORPHED INTO CULTURAL WARRIORS, 1188 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,834 AND RACE MORE THAN EVER 1189 00:57:03,834 --> 00:57:06,734 HAD BECOME AN UNAVOIDABLE PART OF THE CONVERSATION. 1190 00:57:06,734 --> 00:57:08,500 YO! 1191 00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:11,066 BUT NOTHING ABOUT BIRD AND MAGIC HAD EVER BEEN 1192 00:57:11,066 --> 00:57:12,800 AS SIMPLE AS BLACK AND WHITE. 1193 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,900 ONE OF THE BIG REASONS THIS RIVALRY BECAME SO EMBLEMATIC 1194 00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:19,700 OF SO MANY THINGS IS BECAUSE IT WAS AN EASY DICHOTOMY FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. 1195 00:57:19,700 --> 00:57:23,533 BUT IT'S CRAZY TO SIMPLIFY IT AS SAYING, 1196 00:57:23,533 --> 00:57:25,100 "WHITE PEOPLE LIKE BIRD AND BLACK PEOPLE LIKE MAGIC," 1197 00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:27,233 BECAUSE 13% OF THE COUNTRY IS BLACK. 1198 00:57:27,233 --> 00:57:30,333 IT WASN'T LIKE 87% OF BASKETBALL FANS PREFERRED THE CELTICS. 1199 00:57:30,333 --> 00:57:34,333 - WHO'S YOUR FAVORITE BASKETBALL PLAYER? - MAGIC JOHNSON. 1200 00:57:34,333 --> 00:57:37,033 - WHO'S YOUR FAVORITE MOVIE STAR? - EDDIE MURPHY. 1201 00:57:37,033 --> 00:57:39,433 ALL YOU EVER TALK ABOUT IS "NIGGER THIS" AND "NIGGER THAT." 1202 00:57:39,433 --> 00:57:42,033 AND ALL YOUR FAVORITE PEOPLE ARE SO-CALLED NIGGERS. 1203 00:57:42,033 --> 00:57:44,767 IT'S DIFFERENT. MAGIC, EDDIE, PRINCE 1204 00:57:44,767 --> 00:57:47,700 ARE NOT NIGGERS. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT BLACK. 1205 00:57:47,700 --> 00:57:50,433 I MEAN-- LET ME EXPLAIN MYSELF. 1206 00:57:50,433 --> 00:57:52,834 HAS THE "N" WORD EVER BEEN USED 1207 00:57:52,834 --> 00:57:55,734 BY A WHITE PERSON TO DESCRIBE EARVIN? I DOUBT IT. 1208 00:57:55,734 --> 00:57:58,700 BUT AS MAGIC ENJOYED HIS IMAGE 1209 00:57:58,700 --> 00:58:01,800 AS A CROSSOVER STAR, IT WAS BIRD, 1210 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,834 THE ONE-TIME GREAT WHITE HOPE, WHO HAD FURTHER EMERGED 1211 00:58:04,834 --> 00:58:07,100 AS THE POLARIZING RACIAL FIGURE 1212 00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:11,233 DUE IN PART TO THAT ERA'S INCREASINGLY CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL CLIMATE. 1213 00:58:11,233 --> 00:58:13,834 ROLLING BACK INSTITUTIONALLY, IT'S LIKE THE ACHIEVEMENTS 1214 00:58:13,834 --> 00:58:17,834 OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WERE GOING ON APACE FROM ABOUT 1975 ON, 1215 00:58:17,834 --> 00:58:20,300 BUT THE TRIUMPH OF THE MOVEMENT THAT ROLLED THEM BACK 1216 00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:22,166 TOOK PLACE IN THE 1980s. 1217 00:58:22,166 --> 00:58:24,667 AND I THINK THERE WAS PEOPLE WHO WERE VERY AWARE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY 1218 00:58:24,667 --> 00:58:27,967 OF WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF SUBLIMATED FRUSTRATION. 1219 00:58:27,967 --> 00:58:30,467 AND I THINK ONE OF THE WAYS IT GOT SUBLIMATED WAS INTO BASKETBALL. 1220 00:58:30,467 --> 00:58:33,133 AND I THINK LARRY, THROUGH NO FAULT OF HIS OWN, 1221 00:58:33,133 --> 00:58:35,233 WAS THE RECEPTACLE 1222 00:58:35,233 --> 00:58:38,367 WITHIN WHICH THE LINGERING RESENTMENTS SOMEHOW FLOATED. 1223 00:58:38,367 --> 00:58:41,400 AND AFTER BIRD LED THE CELTICS 1224 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,433 TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP IN 1986, 1225 00:58:43,433 --> 00:58:46,700 HIS THIRD IN THE PROS, WINNING HIS THIRD STRAIGHT MVP AWARD, 1226 00:58:46,700 --> 00:58:49,500 IN THE PROCESS, THE RESENTMENT GREW. 1227 00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:53,233 I ALWAYS FELT THAT THE PRESS 1228 00:58:53,233 --> 00:58:57,066 WAS BIASED IN FAVOR OF LARRY BIRD. 1229 00:58:57,066 --> 00:58:59,633 IT ALWAYS FELT TO ME LIKE 1230 00:58:59,633 --> 00:59:01,867 THEY WERE GONNA MAKE LARRY THE HERO. 1231 00:59:01,867 --> 00:59:04,100 YOU'D SEE SOMEBODY SCORE, 1232 00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:06,233 AND LARRY WOULD BE IN A CAST IN A SUIT ON THE BENCH, 1233 00:59:06,233 --> 00:59:08,500 AND THEY'D SAY "LARRY BIRD MADE THAT POSSIBLE 1234 00:59:08,500 --> 00:59:11,300 A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WHEN HE TOLD THAT GUY HE COULD DO IT, 1235 00:59:11,300 --> 00:59:13,066 AND HE JUST DID IT." 1236 00:59:13,066 --> 00:59:15,834 "THEY GONNA GIVE THIS MOTHERFUCKER THE ASSIST, AND HE'S NOT IN THE GAME?!" 1237 00:59:15,834 --> 00:59:18,734 NOT TO BE RACIST, BUT WE HAVE A WHITE GUY WHO'S THE BEST IN THE WORLD, 1238 00:59:18,734 --> 00:59:20,633 AND IT'S PREDOMINANTLY A BLACK SPORT NOW. 1239 00:59:20,633 --> 00:59:23,500 AND YOU GOT A GUY LIKE LARRY BIRD, WHO CAN'T RUN, WHO CAN'T JUMP, 1240 00:59:23,500 --> 00:59:25,367 BUT CAN DO EVERYTHING OUT THERE. 1241 00:59:25,367 --> 00:59:26,967 THAT DON'T MEAN NOTHING TO ME. 1242 00:59:26,967 --> 00:59:29,000 IT DON'T MEAN ANYTHING TO ME. 1243 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,500 IT NEVER HAS. I DON'T KNOW WHY. 1244 00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:35,066 I MEAN, AM I DOING SOMETHING WRONG HERE? 1245 00:59:35,066 --> 00:59:37,033 BIRD MAY HAVE SOUGHT 1246 00:59:37,033 --> 00:59:39,633 TO AVOID THE CONVERSATION ENTIRELY, 1247 00:59:39,633 --> 00:59:42,633 BUT THE MORE HE WON, THE LESS HE COULD ESCAPE IT. 1248 00:59:42,633 --> 00:59:45,133 Now there's a steal by Bird, 1249 00:59:45,133 --> 00:59:48,200 underneath to DJ, and he lays it in. 1250 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,200 What a play by Bird! 1251 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,667 IN 1987, AFTER BOSTON BEAT THE DETROIT PISTONS 1252 00:59:53,667 --> 00:59:56,133 TO ADVANCE TO THE FINALS FOR THE FOURTH STRAIGHT YEAR, 1253 00:59:56,133 --> 00:59:59,867 PISTONS ROOKIE DENNIS RODMAN CALLED BIRD OVERRATED 1254 00:59:59,867 --> 01:00:01,200 BECAUSE HE WAS WHITE. 1255 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,133 HIS TEAMMATE ISAIAH THOMAS THEN CHIMED IN 1256 01:00:04,133 --> 01:00:06,266 WITH SOME THOUGHTS OF HIS OWN... 1257 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,967 I CAN REMEMBER 1258 01:00:26,967 --> 01:00:28,767 IN THE LOCKER ROOM, 1259 01:00:28,767 --> 01:00:30,633 I THINK IT WAS JACKIE MacMULLAN COME UP TO ME 1260 01:00:30,633 --> 01:00:33,266 AND SAID ISAIAH JUST SAID BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM! 1261 01:00:33,266 --> 01:00:35,600 AND I GO, "SO?" 1262 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,633 HE DIDN'T CARE. HE DIDN'T CARE. 1263 01:00:37,633 --> 01:00:40,667 EVERYBODY ELSE AROUND HIM CARED VERY DEEPLY 1264 01:00:40,667 --> 01:00:43,166 IN THE DAYS AND WEEKS, AS IT TURNED OUT, AHEAD. 1265 01:00:45,467 --> 01:00:48,133 I MEAN, THE MEDIA MADE OUT LIKE IT WAS SOMETHING. 1266 01:00:48,133 --> 01:00:50,400 BUT IT DIDN'T MATTER TO ME 1267 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,567 WHAT ISAIAH OR DENNIS RODMAN SAID, 1268 01:00:52,567 --> 01:00:54,800 AND IT STILL DON'T. 1269 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,900 HAS NO BEARING ON WHAT I DO IN MY LIFE. 1270 01:00:56,900 --> 01:01:00,066 HE DOESN'T SEE RACE. HE REALLY DOESN'T. 1271 01:01:00,066 --> 01:01:03,166 AND HE COULD HAVE. 1272 01:01:03,166 --> 01:01:06,734 THIS GUY GREW UP POOR, WHITE 1273 01:01:06,734 --> 01:01:08,567 IN SOUTHERN INDIANA. 1274 01:01:08,567 --> 01:01:11,567 SOUTHERN INDIANA, THE HOME, BY THE WAY, 1275 01:01:11,567 --> 01:01:13,066 OF THE MODERN KU KLUX KLAN. 1276 01:01:13,066 --> 01:01:15,567 HOW HE MANAGED NOT TO BE AFFECTED 1277 01:01:15,567 --> 01:01:17,633 BY THE CULTURAL MILIEU THAT HE GREW UP IN 1278 01:01:17,633 --> 01:01:20,533 IS, I THINK, A MIRACLE. TO ME IT'S INEXPLICABLE. 1279 01:01:20,533 --> 01:01:22,867 WHEN I WAS IN ABOUT SIXTH OR SEVENTH GRADE, 1280 01:01:22,867 --> 01:01:24,767 I COULDN'T WAIT TILL SCHOOL WOULD BE OVER. 1281 01:01:24,767 --> 01:01:27,066 'CAUSE I KNEW OVER ON THE COURTS 1282 01:01:27,066 --> 01:01:29,767 THE WAITERS FROM THE HOTEL WOULD BE OVER THERE. 1283 01:01:29,767 --> 01:01:31,800 THEY WERE BLACK, OLDER, 1284 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,266 AND THEY LET ME PLAY. 1285 01:01:34,266 --> 01:01:38,033 I ALWAYS LOOKED AT THAT AS I GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY AGAINST A BLACK MAN, 1286 01:01:38,033 --> 01:01:39,767 AND THEY TREATED ME GOOD. 1287 01:01:39,767 --> 01:01:41,767 I COULDN'T WAIT TO PLAY AGAINST THE BEST. 1288 01:01:41,767 --> 01:01:43,567 AND AT THAT TIME, THEY WERE THE BEST. 1289 01:01:43,567 --> 01:01:46,734 AND IN 1987, 1290 01:01:46,734 --> 01:01:49,400 AS BIRD VIED WITH MAGIC TO BE THE BEST, 1291 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,266 THE FLAP OVER ISAIAH THOMAS'S RACIALLY FUELED REMARKS 1292 01:01:52,266 --> 01:01:55,266 FORCED BIRD TO ADDRESS HIS LEAST FAVORITE TOPIC 1293 01:01:55,266 --> 01:01:57,266 AT THE WORST POSSIBLE TIME. 1294 01:01:57,266 --> 01:01:59,266 I HAD TO GO TO A PRESS CONFERENCE 1295 01:01:59,266 --> 01:02:02,734 WHEN WE WERE IN L.A. TRYING TO GET READY TO PLAY THE LAKERS, 1296 01:02:02,734 --> 01:02:06,667 AND TELL PEOPLE I DIDN'T CARE. THIS DON'T BOTHER ME. 1297 01:02:06,667 --> 01:02:10,033 THE MAIN THING IS IF THE STATEMENTS OR WHATEVER WAS SAID 1298 01:02:10,033 --> 01:02:12,533 DOESN'T BOTHER ME, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BOTHER ANY OF US. 1299 01:02:12,533 --> 01:02:14,667 FROM PLAYING ALL YEAR, TRYING TO GET BACK TO THE FINALS, 1300 01:02:14,667 --> 01:02:17,633 TO PLAY AGAINST MAGIC, THIS WAS A DISTRACTION. 1301 01:02:17,633 --> 01:02:20,066 BIRD WAS FACING OFF AGAINST MAGIC 1302 01:02:20,066 --> 01:02:21,800 FOR THE THIRD TIME IN FOUR YEARS. 1303 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,367 AND IF THEIR RELATIONSHIP HAD SOFTENED, 1304 01:02:24,367 --> 01:02:26,967 THE DETERMINATION TO BEAT EACH OTHER HAD NOT. 1305 01:02:30,166 --> 01:02:32,166 AS GAME 4 PROVED, 1306 01:02:32,166 --> 01:02:35,600 THE LEVEL OF COMPETITION BETWEEN THEM WAS HIGHER THAN EVER. 1307 01:02:37,166 --> 01:02:39,100 BIRD PLAYED AWESOME DOWN THE STRETCH OF THAT GAME. 1308 01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:41,200 TRAILING 2-1 IN THE SERIES, 1309 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,667 THE CELTICS WERE DOWN BY ONE POINT IN THE FINAL MINUTE OF THE GAME, 1310 01:02:44,667 --> 01:02:47,834 BUT LARRY BIRD WOULDN'T BE EASILY VANQUISHED. 1311 01:02:47,834 --> 01:02:50,033 Open is Ainge. 1312 01:02:50,033 --> 01:02:52,200 Bird goes for three! 1313 01:02:56,700 --> 01:02:59,900 LARRY! LARRY! LARRY! LARRY! 1314 01:02:59,900 --> 01:03:01,633 WITH SEVEN SECONDS LEFT, THOUGH, 1315 01:03:01,633 --> 01:03:03,667 THE LAKERS STILL HAD LIFE. 1316 01:03:03,667 --> 01:03:06,600 THREE YEARS EARLIER IN THE '84 FINALS, 1317 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,266 MAGIC HAD FLUBBED A SIMILAR SITUATION. 1318 01:03:09,266 --> 01:03:11,100 BUT THIS WAS A DIFFERENT MAGIC, 1319 01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:14,266 ONE WITH A WHOLE NEW BAG OF TRICKS. 1320 01:03:14,266 --> 01:03:16,333 MY MAN SWITCHED TO KAREEM 1321 01:03:16,333 --> 01:03:18,633 AND KEVIN McHALE JUMPED OUT TO ME. 1322 01:03:18,633 --> 01:03:21,367 AS SOON AS I SAW KEVIN, I SAID, "OH, I'M TAKING HIM." 1323 01:03:21,367 --> 01:03:23,934 MAGIC PUTS IT ON THE FLOOR. 1324 01:03:23,934 --> 01:03:25,867 A COUPLE HEAD AND SHOULDER FAKES 1325 01:03:25,867 --> 01:03:27,900 AND HE RAISED UP IN THE AIR 1326 01:03:27,900 --> 01:03:30,633 AND THERE WAS NOBODY THAT WAS GONNA GET THAT SHOT. 1327 01:03:30,633 --> 01:03:34,533 Magic with a hook shot, scores with :02. 1328 01:03:41,166 --> 01:03:44,700 I REMEMBER AFTER THEY CALLED TIMEOUT, THINKING, 1329 01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:48,633 THERE'S STILL A SHOT HERE. THE CELTICS MAY STILL WIN THIS GAME. 1330 01:03:48,633 --> 01:03:50,667 THEY SET UP A GREAT PLAY. 1331 01:03:50,667 --> 01:03:53,200 BIRD WALKED WORTHY ALL THE WAY UP, 1332 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,200 FORCED A DENIAL ALL THE WAY UP. 1333 01:03:57,667 --> 01:04:01,033 WE DONE IT BEFORE. CLEAR EVERYBODY OUT, 1334 01:04:01,033 --> 01:04:03,500 GO TO THE BALL AND BREAK THE CORNER. 1335 01:04:04,834 --> 01:04:07,066 HE CAUGHT IT HERE AND AS HE CAUGHT IT, 1336 01:04:07,066 --> 01:04:09,667 ALL HE HAD TO DO WAS TURN AND JUST TURN, 1337 01:04:09,667 --> 01:04:11,967 AND HE JUST LET THIS THING GO. 1338 01:04:11,967 --> 01:04:14,000 Bird fires it. 1339 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,333 HAD A WIDE OPEN LOOK. COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. 1340 01:04:16,333 --> 01:04:18,767 AND I'M STANDING RIGHT THERE, IT IS STRAIGHT AS AN ARROW. 1341 01:04:19,900 --> 01:04:22,533 - DEAD ON. 1342 01:04:22,533 --> 01:04:25,233 And the Lakers have won... 1343 01:04:25,233 --> 01:04:28,700 THEY WERE LUCKY BECAUSE IT WAS RIGHT ON A LINE. 1344 01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:30,667 HE LOOKED AT ME LIKE, 1345 01:04:30,667 --> 01:04:33,400 "HOW DID YOU EVER LEAVE ME THAT WIDE OPEN?" 1346 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,100 YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME. 1347 01:04:40,266 --> 01:04:42,100 CHANGED THE WHOLE SERIES. 1348 01:04:42,100 --> 01:04:45,000 THE LAKERS WON THE SERIES IN SIX. 1349 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,066 AND IN THE AFTERMATH OF A YEAR IN WHICH MAGIC HAD WON HIS FIRST MVP, 1350 01:04:48,066 --> 01:04:51,033 THE RIVALRY SUDDENLY TOOK ON A NEW TONE. 1351 01:04:51,033 --> 01:04:53,333 MAGIC'S JUST A GREAT BASKETBALL PLAYER. 1352 01:04:53,333 --> 01:04:56,033 HE'S THE BEST I'VE EVER SEEN. 1353 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,266 UNBELIEVABLE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. 1354 01:05:01,266 --> 01:05:04,633 I WAS SHOCKED THAT HE SAID IT, 'CAUSE I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, 1355 01:05:04,633 --> 01:05:08,100 "MAYBE THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A NEW ERA THAT'S NOT GONNA INCLUDE HIM." 1356 01:05:08,100 --> 01:05:10,934 IT WAS THE PASSING OF THE TORCH A LITTLE BIT. 1357 01:05:12,934 --> 01:05:15,000 AFTER VANQUISHING BIRD IN '87, 1358 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,900 MAGIC WASN'T DONE WINNING. 1359 01:05:16,900 --> 01:05:18,934 THE FOLLOWING YEAR HE SQUARED OFF IN THE FINALS 1360 01:05:18,934 --> 01:05:22,100 AGAINST HIS GOOD FRIEND ISAIAH THOMAS AND THE PISTONS. 1361 01:05:24,667 --> 01:05:27,233 BEATING THEM TO BECOME THE NBA's FIRST REPEAT CHAMPIONS 1362 01:05:27,233 --> 01:05:29,867 IN TWO DECADES. 1363 01:05:29,867 --> 01:05:32,900 BY THE DAWN OF THE '90s, HE'D WON FIVE TITLES, 1364 01:05:32,900 --> 01:05:34,467 PLAYED IN EIGHT FINALS 1365 01:05:34,467 --> 01:05:37,800 AND EQUALED BIRD'S MVP TALLY OF THREE. 1366 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,300 BUT THE MORE MAGIC WON, 1367 01:05:40,300 --> 01:05:43,767 THE LESS EARVIN SEEMED TO BE AROUND TO REAP THE SPOILS. 1368 01:05:43,767 --> 01:05:46,200 ONCE I TASTED THE CHAMPAGNE 1369 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,400 AND THE CHAMPIONSHIP, I WANTED MORE OF THAT 1370 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:50,967 AND MORE OF THAT. 1371 01:05:50,967 --> 01:05:54,700 SO MAGIC KEPT GROWING BECAUSE WE WERE SUCCESSFUL. 1372 01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:57,834 AND THE PERSONA AND ALL THAT 1373 01:05:57,834 --> 01:05:59,400 CAME WITH THAT. 1374 01:06:02,467 --> 01:06:05,300 - THE PRINCE OF L.A. - WAS NOW THE KING... 1375 01:06:05,300 --> 01:06:07,767 AND IN HOLLYWOOD, 1376 01:06:07,767 --> 01:06:10,467 BEING ROYALTY HAD ITS PERKS. 1377 01:06:10,467 --> 01:06:12,367 WOW! 1378 01:06:12,367 --> 01:06:14,834 WHAT WAS EARVIN JOHNSON'S VICE? 1379 01:06:14,834 --> 01:06:18,133 NOW YOU KNOW MY PUBLICIST WANTS ME TO SAY WINNING. 1380 01:06:20,133 --> 01:06:23,300 BUT WOMEN LOVED EARVIN. 1381 01:06:23,300 --> 01:06:26,066 BACK THEN BEFORE VOICEMAIL, THEY USED TO HAVE THESE MAIL SLOTS 1382 01:06:26,066 --> 01:06:27,967 IN THE HOTELS WHERE YOU'D LEAVE YOUR KEY. 1383 01:06:27,967 --> 01:06:31,834 WHEN WE'D GET INTO A TOWN, EARVIN'S MAIL SLOT WOULD BE SO PACKED. 1384 01:06:31,834 --> 01:06:34,367 AND IT WOULD BE JUST SUSAN AND A PHONE NUMBER, 1385 01:06:34,367 --> 01:06:36,533 LINDA AND A PHONE NUMBER, JOYCE AND A PHONE NUMBER. 1386 01:06:36,533 --> 01:06:39,033 THAT WAS EVERY CITY, EVERY TIME. 1387 01:06:40,500 --> 01:06:43,467 I WAS ON TOP OF MY GAME AS MAGIC, 1388 01:06:43,467 --> 01:06:46,700 SO I NEEDED ALL THAT AROUND ME AT THAT TIME-- 1389 01:06:46,700 --> 01:06:50,033 THE WOMEN, THE THIS, THE THAT-- HOLLYWOOD. 1390 01:06:54,533 --> 01:06:58,500 MAGIC WAS LIVING IN A CONTEXT OF SYBARITIC EXCESS 1391 01:06:58,500 --> 01:07:00,033 FROM THE MINUTE HE WALKED IN THE DOOR. 1392 01:07:00,033 --> 01:07:02,333 AND HE DEVELOPED A SWEET TOOTH FOR IT. 1393 01:07:04,834 --> 01:07:07,100 SEX WITH SEVERAL WOMEN AT THE SAME TIME? 1394 01:07:07,100 --> 01:07:08,900 YEAH. 1395 01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:11,100 LIKE I SAID, WOMEN HAVE DIFFERENT FANTASIES. 1396 01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:13,934 SOME WANNA BE WITH TWO, THREE AT A TIME. 1397 01:07:13,934 --> 01:07:17,033 ONE TIME I HAD SIX AT ONE TIME. 1398 01:07:17,033 --> 01:07:19,400 I REALLY DO BELIEVE HE LOOKS UPON MAGIC JOHNSON 1399 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,400 AS A MOVIE CHARACTER HE PLAYED. 1400 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,266 I THINK EARVIN GOT OVERWHELMED IN L.A. 1401 01:07:24,266 --> 01:07:28,133 BY WHAT IT MEANT TO BE A STAR. 1402 01:07:28,133 --> 01:07:31,800 THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE-- THAT THE MAGIC EGO 1403 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,533 SWALLOWED EARVIN A LITTLE BIT. 1404 01:07:33,533 --> 01:07:36,967 BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE I COULDN'T 1405 01:07:36,967 --> 01:07:40,033 WIN FIVE CHAMPIONSHIPS WITHOUT THAT. 1406 01:07:40,033 --> 01:07:43,166 THROUGH ALL OF THIS HAZE OF WOMEN AND MONEY 1407 01:07:43,166 --> 01:07:45,734 AND FAME AND FORTUNE, HE STILL KEPT BASKETBALL AT NUMBER ONE. 1408 01:07:45,734 --> 01:07:49,000 HE NEVER SEEMED TO LOSE THAT FOCUS. 1409 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,967 LARRY HAD TWO JOBS HIS LAST SEVEN YEARS OF PLAYING. 1410 01:07:52,967 --> 01:07:56,300 IT WAS PLAYING BASKETBALL AND THEN IT WAS HIM BEING COMMITTED 1411 01:07:56,300 --> 01:07:58,033 TO TAKING CARE OF HIS BACK. 1412 01:07:58,033 --> 01:08:01,166 HE HAD FIRST HURT IT IN 1985, 1413 01:08:01,166 --> 01:08:04,600 BUILDING THE DRIVEWAY AT HIS MOM'S HOUSE BACK IN FRENCH LICK. 1414 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,700 LARRY DECIDED TO DO IT HIMSELF. 1415 01:08:06,700 --> 01:08:09,433 THIS IS LARRY BIRD, THE SUPERSTAR, OUT THERE, 1416 01:08:09,433 --> 01:08:13,066 BREAKING HIS BACK LITERALLY SHOVELING GRAVEL. 1417 01:08:13,066 --> 01:08:15,567 AND THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF A PROCESS. 1418 01:08:15,567 --> 01:08:19,433 I WOULD SEE HIM ON TV LAYING DOWN 1419 01:08:19,433 --> 01:08:21,834 AND THEN THEY TOLD ME HE HAD TO LAY DOWN ON PLANES, 1420 01:08:21,834 --> 01:08:24,834 DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. AND I WAS LIKE, "WOW." 1421 01:08:24,834 --> 01:08:28,934 AS MAGIC SOARED THROUGH THE PRIME OF HIS CAREER, 1422 01:08:28,934 --> 01:08:31,200 BIRD WAS BREAKING DOWN. 1423 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,934 HIS DETERIORATING BACK AND PUNISHING STYLE OF PLAY 1424 01:08:34,934 --> 01:08:37,367 PROVING AN EXCRUCIATING MIX. 1425 01:08:37,367 --> 01:08:40,300 FROM '88 TO '92, 1426 01:08:40,300 --> 01:08:42,800 IT WAS PAINFUL TO WATCH. IT WAS PAINFUL TO COVER. 1427 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,667 LARRY IS QUITE ORNERY WHEN HE'S NOT FEELING WELL, 1428 01:08:45,667 --> 01:08:48,600 WHICH MEANS HE WAS ORNERY FOR THOSE NEXT FOUR YEARS. 1429 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,934 HE COULD MANAGE THE PAIN IN A WAY 1430 01:08:50,934 --> 01:08:53,533 THAT VERY FEW PEOPLE CAN DO. 1431 01:08:53,533 --> 01:08:56,500 THERE'D BE DAYS HE'D COME IN THE OFFICE AND HE COULDN'T STAND UP STRAIGHT. 1432 01:08:56,500 --> 01:09:00,333 BUT EVEN AFTER TWO RUPTURED ACHILLES TENDONS 1433 01:09:00,333 --> 01:09:03,066 AND SURGERY ON HIS BACK IN 1991, 1434 01:09:03,066 --> 01:09:04,500 BIRD KEPT GOING TO WORK, 1435 01:09:04,500 --> 01:09:07,066 PRODUCT OF A LESSON LEARNED MANY YEARS BEFORE 1436 01:09:07,066 --> 01:09:11,066 SEEING THE SWOLLEN ANKLE OF A MAN LONG SINCE GONE. 1437 01:09:11,066 --> 01:09:14,300 WE DON'T KNOW IF IT BROKE OR NOT, BUT IT LOOKED BROKE TO ME. 1438 01:09:14,300 --> 01:09:16,300 HAD TO GO TO WORK, AND HE HAD TO GET HIS BOOT ON IT. 1439 01:09:16,300 --> 01:09:19,100 AND IT TOOK EVERYTHING I HAD TO HELP HIM GET THAT BOOT ON HIS FOOT. 1440 01:09:19,100 --> 01:09:22,133 HE STOOD UP LIMPING AND HE SAYS, "I'LL SEE YOU THIS WEEKEND," 1441 01:09:22,133 --> 01:09:24,233 'CAUSE HE WAS WORKING CONSTRUCTION AT THE TIME. 1442 01:09:24,233 --> 01:09:26,900 AND I WAS PRETTY AMAZED HE COULD FIGHT THROUGH THAT ALL WEEK 1443 01:09:26,900 --> 01:09:30,133 AND COME HOME ON THE WEEKEND AND IT WAS BLACK AND SWOLLEN, 1444 01:09:30,133 --> 01:09:32,800 AND HE'D SIT AROUND ON THE WEEKEND, 1445 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,867 THEN PUT THAT BOOT ON AND GO AGAIN. 1446 01:09:35,867 --> 01:09:38,567 IF YOU GET PAID TO GO TO WORK, YOU GOTTA GO TO WORK. 1447 01:09:38,567 --> 01:09:41,734 IT WAS A SITUATION HE WAS SEEING ALMOST DAILY. 1448 01:09:41,734 --> 01:09:44,700 HE HAD LOST THE STRUCTURAL STABILITY IN HIS SPINE. 1449 01:09:44,700 --> 01:09:47,500 SO IT WOULD SLIP INTO ABNORMAL POSITIONS 1450 01:09:47,500 --> 01:09:50,867 TO TRY AND LOCK ITSELF TO GET ARTIFICIAL STABILITY. 1451 01:09:50,867 --> 01:09:53,333 THAT'S LIKE GETTING YOUR FINGER STUCK IN A DOOR 1452 01:09:53,333 --> 01:09:56,233 AND SOMEBODY'S STILL PUSHING ON THE DOOR. 1453 01:09:56,233 --> 01:09:59,500 SO WHAT WE HAD TO DO WAS UNLOCK HIS SPINE, 1454 01:09:59,500 --> 01:10:01,200 REALIGN IT, 1455 01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,367 DO TECHNIQUES THAT WOULD HOLD THAT FOR FOUR HOURS, 1456 01:10:04,367 --> 01:10:07,734 SIX HOURS, THAT TYPE OF THING. AND THEN HE'D GO PLAY BASKETBALL. 1457 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,166 EVERY TIME I WOULD PLAY, 1458 01:10:14,166 --> 01:10:16,800 I WAS WONDERING IF I WAS GONNA BE IN A WHEELCHAIR. 1459 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,400 WAS I EVER GONNA BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, 1460 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,033 WALK ON THE BEACH OR HOLD MY KIDS? 1461 01:10:25,834 --> 01:10:28,166 HIS PAIN AND HIS QUEST FOR BASKETBALL BECAME ALL ENCOMPASSING. 1462 01:10:28,166 --> 01:10:30,166 VERY FEW PEOPLE REALLY KNEW 1463 01:10:30,166 --> 01:10:32,700 WHAT LARRY WAS LIVING WITH. 1464 01:10:32,700 --> 01:10:35,300 'CAUSE THIS WAS LARRY'S ISSUE. 1465 01:10:35,300 --> 01:10:37,166 AND THERE WAS NO SHARING OF HIS PAIN. 1466 01:10:37,166 --> 01:10:40,266 YOU KNOW, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE RETIRED 1467 01:10:40,266 --> 01:10:42,700 IN '88, 89, 1468 01:10:42,700 --> 01:10:46,266 BUT IT'S THAT COMPETITION. 1469 01:10:46,266 --> 01:10:48,800 MAYBE ONE MORE CHANCE ME AND MAGIC GET TOGETHER 1470 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,433 IN THE FINALS, BUT IT NEVER HAPPENED. 1471 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,033 I'M SLEEPING REALLY, LAYING DOWN, 1472 01:10:58,033 --> 01:11:02,900 JUST WAITING ON THE GAME AND THE PHONE RINGS 1473 01:11:02,900 --> 01:11:05,033 AND... 1474 01:11:07,033 --> 01:11:10,133 THE VOICE SAYS, "HEY, YOU GOTTA COME BACK TO L.A." 1475 01:11:10,133 --> 01:11:13,500 AND I SAY, "OKAY, WHY?" 1476 01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:16,166 "WELL, I CAN'T TELL YOU TILL YOU GET TO L.A." 1477 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,834 SO I SAID, "OKAY." 1478 01:11:22,834 --> 01:11:25,567 TWO HOURS LATER, 1479 01:11:25,567 --> 01:11:29,233 HE WAS IN THE OFFICE OF LAKERS' TEAM PHYSICIAN MICHAEL MELLMAN. 1480 01:11:29,233 --> 01:11:32,300 DR. MELLMAN STARTS TO 1481 01:11:32,300 --> 01:11:37,500 TELL ME THAT THROUGH THE PHYSICAL THAT I TOOK 1482 01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:40,266 THAT THEY DISCOVERED 1483 01:11:40,266 --> 01:11:42,367 THAT I HAD H.I.V. 1484 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,900 FIRST TIME EVER IN MY LIFE-- 1485 01:11:50,900 --> 01:11:53,567 I'M SUCH A CONTROL FREAK, RIGHT, AND DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY-- 1486 01:11:53,567 --> 01:11:55,734 I'M OUT OF CONTROL. 1487 01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,266 IT WAS EVERYTHING. "HOW IS IT POSSIBLE? 1488 01:12:01,266 --> 01:12:03,066 WHAT HAPPENED? 1489 01:12:03,066 --> 01:12:04,700 HOW DID IT HAPPEN TO ME?" 1490 01:12:04,700 --> 01:12:06,967 AND MY MIND IS RACING, 1491 01:12:06,967 --> 01:12:09,900 YOU KNOW, AND... 1492 01:12:09,900 --> 01:12:12,633 AND THEN YOU'RE JUST DEVASTATED. 1493 01:12:12,633 --> 01:12:15,266 FURTHER COMPLICATING THINGS, 1494 01:12:15,266 --> 01:12:18,333 MAGIC HAD GOTTEN MARRIED JUST TWO MONTHS EARLIER. 1495 01:12:18,333 --> 01:12:21,100 AND HE FEARED THE WORST FOR HIS NEW BRIDE COOKIE, 1496 01:12:21,100 --> 01:12:24,066 WHO WAS PREGNANT WITH THEIR FIRST CHILD. 1497 01:12:24,066 --> 01:12:26,433 I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH MY WIFE 1498 01:12:26,433 --> 01:12:29,500 AND MY BABY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO ME. 1499 01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:31,500 I DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF THE SITUATION 1500 01:12:31,500 --> 01:12:34,400 AND I WAS LOST JUST FOR THAT NEXT TWO 1501 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:35,767 OR THREE WEEKS. 1502 01:12:35,767 --> 01:12:38,300 AND AFTER MAGIC LEARNED NEITHER HIS WIFE 1503 01:12:38,300 --> 01:12:40,600 NOR HIS UNBORN CHILD WERE INFECTED, 1504 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,600 HE BEGAN REVEALING THE NEWS TO HIS INNER CIRCLE. 1505 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,567 THE PHONE RANG, 1506 01:12:45,567 --> 01:12:47,767 AND IT WAS MAGIC'S AGENT LON ROSEN. 1507 01:12:47,767 --> 01:12:49,600 AND HE SAID, "EARVIN'S LOOKING FOR YOU. CALL HIM." 1508 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,633 AND I SAID, "I'LL CALL HIM WHEN I GET TO PARAMOUNT." 1509 01:12:51,633 --> 01:12:53,633 AND HE SAYS, "CALL HIM NOW." 1510 01:12:53,633 --> 01:12:56,233 I SAID, "LON, I'LL CALL HIM WHEN I GET TO PARAMOUNT. 1511 01:12:56,233 --> 01:12:59,400 I'LL BE THERE IN 20 MINUTES." 1512 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,333 AND HE SAID, 1513 01:13:02,333 --> 01:13:05,834 "YOU GOTTA CALL HIM NOW. EARVIN'S H.I.V. POSITIVE." 1514 01:13:09,233 --> 01:13:11,500 I WAS SITTING ON THE BED. 1515 01:13:11,500 --> 01:13:13,500 I REMEMBER STANDING UP 1516 01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:16,767 AT THAT POINT, 1517 01:13:16,767 --> 01:13:19,200 AND I SAID, "HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?" 1518 01:13:22,300 --> 01:13:25,700 I'M THINKING EARVIN'S GONNA GET SKINNY AND DIE. 1519 01:13:25,700 --> 01:13:28,066 I MEAN, LITERALLY, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT-- 1520 01:13:28,066 --> 01:13:30,867 "EARVIN'S GONNA GET SKINNY AND DIE." 1521 01:13:33,367 --> 01:13:35,533 THE FIRST PERSON I THOUGHT OF WAS LARRY-- 1522 01:13:36,700 --> 01:13:38,166 "I WONDER WHAT LARRY THINKS." 1523 01:13:40,333 --> 01:13:43,000 THE DAY THAT I HEARD ABOUT MAGIC, 1524 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,800 IT JUST SORT OF CHANGED MY LOVE FOR BASKETBALL. 1525 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,834 IT SHOOK ME UP. 1526 01:13:47,834 --> 01:13:50,834 YOU GET THAT FEELING, 1527 01:13:50,834 --> 01:13:53,400 PROBABLY THE SAME TYPE OF FEELING I HAD WHEN MY FATHER DIED. 1528 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,667 HE WANTS TO UNDERSTAND WHY. "HOW CAN I TALK TO HIM? 1529 01:13:56,667 --> 01:13:59,834 I NEED TO SPEAK TO HIM." IT WAS JUST REALLY IMPORTANT FOR LARRY TO TALK TO HIM. 1530 01:13:59,834 --> 01:14:02,433 YOU KNOW... 1531 01:14:02,433 --> 01:14:04,867 YOU KNOW, SORT OF-- 1532 01:14:04,867 --> 01:14:07,400 I DON'T KNOW. 1533 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:10,300 I WANTED TO HEAR IT FROM HIM. I PROBABLY DIDN'T BELIEVE IT. 1534 01:14:12,533 --> 01:14:14,900 CALLS ME, WE'RE TALKING. 1535 01:14:14,900 --> 01:14:16,633 IT'S JUST, "HOW YOU DOING? 1536 01:14:16,633 --> 01:14:19,000 I HEARD ABOUT IT." 1537 01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,166 YOU CAN ALMOST HEAR BOTH OF US 1538 01:14:21,166 --> 01:14:25,200 WITH SOME TEARS IN OUR EYES. 1539 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,133 AND I'M CHOKED UP 1540 01:14:27,133 --> 01:14:29,233 BECAUSE HE DID CALL ME. 1541 01:14:33,266 --> 01:14:35,367 YOU KNOW... 1542 01:14:37,533 --> 01:14:40,066 WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS... 1543 01:14:46,934 --> 01:14:49,033 TO YOU... 1544 01:14:55,633 --> 01:14:57,600 AND THEN YOU FIND OUT 1545 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,633 WHO REALLY YOUR FRIENDS ARE 1546 01:15:00,633 --> 01:15:03,934 AND PEOPLE WHO REALLY CARE ABOUT YOU. 1547 01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,467 YOU FIGURE ALL THOSE BATTLES, 1548 01:15:11,467 --> 01:15:14,867 ALL THOSE THINGS WE HAD TO GO THROUGH 1549 01:15:14,867 --> 01:15:17,834 AS WARRIORS, AS COMPETITORS 1550 01:15:17,834 --> 01:15:19,967 AND AS MEN. 1551 01:15:19,967 --> 01:15:23,834 AND HERE THIS MAN SAYS, 1552 01:15:23,834 --> 01:15:26,166 "HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, MAN? YOU'RE OKAY." 1553 01:15:26,166 --> 01:15:29,567 AND SO... 1554 01:15:29,567 --> 01:15:32,734 THAT WAS THE GREATEST MOMENT FOR ME TOO, 1555 01:15:32,734 --> 01:15:35,533 YOU KNOW, TO HAVE HIM CHECK ON ME 1556 01:15:35,533 --> 01:15:39,233 AND TO MAKE SURE 1557 01:15:39,233 --> 01:15:41,734 I WAS OKAY. 1558 01:15:44,967 --> 01:15:46,900 FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY, 1559 01:15:46,900 --> 01:15:49,767 - GOOD LATE AFTERNOON. 1560 01:15:49,767 --> 01:15:52,066 BECAUSE OF... 1561 01:15:53,633 --> 01:15:57,667 THE H.I.V. VIRUS THAT I HAVE ATTAINED, 1562 01:15:57,667 --> 01:16:01,633 I WILL HAVE TO RETIRE FROM THE LAKERS TODAY. 1563 01:16:01,633 --> 01:16:03,633 IT'S THE ONLY PRESS CONFERENCE I'VE EVER BEEN IN 1564 01:16:03,633 --> 01:16:05,600 WHERE I'VE SEEN REPORTERS CRY. 1565 01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,934 I MEAN, WE THOUGHT THIS GUY WAS IN TOTAL DENIAL. 1566 01:16:07,934 --> 01:16:11,166 I PLAN ON GOING ON LIVING FOR A LONG TIME, 1567 01:16:11,166 --> 01:16:14,000 BUGGING YOU GUYS LIKE I ALWAYS HAVE. 1568 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,767 WE THOUGHT THE SMILE WAS GONNA BE WIPED OFF HIS FACE FOREVER, 1569 01:16:16,767 --> 01:16:19,166 AND HE WAS GONNA DIE, AND WE'RE GONNA WATCH HIM DIE IN PUBLIC. 1570 01:16:19,166 --> 01:16:22,867 I JUST REMEMBER IN THE ROOM. HE WAS JOKING AND I'M SITTING THERE LOOKING AT HIM CRYING, 1571 01:16:22,867 --> 01:16:26,433 AND HE'S LIKE, "COOP, MAN, I'M GONNA BE OKAY. IT'S GONNA BE ALL RIGHT." 1572 01:16:26,433 --> 01:16:29,767 I AM GONNA GO ON. I'M GONNA BEAT IT, AND I'M GONNA HAVE FUN. 1573 01:16:29,767 --> 01:16:31,800 - SURE, COME ON. - YOU'RE GONNA BEAT THIS? 1574 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,266 TO HIM, IT WAS A CONTEST. 1575 01:16:33,266 --> 01:16:35,266 LARRY BIRD AND MAGIC JOHNSON-- 1576 01:16:35,266 --> 01:16:37,467 AIDS AND MAGIC JOHNSON, SAME THING. 1577 01:16:37,467 --> 01:16:39,433 "IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT GAME, DIFFERENT RULES, 1578 01:16:39,433 --> 01:16:40,800 BUT I'M STILL GONNA WIN." 1579 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,333 HE WASN'T PLANNING ON GOING NOWHERE. 1580 01:16:42,333 --> 01:16:45,100 EARVIN WAS PLANNING THAT DAY 1581 01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:47,133 TO FIND THE RIGHT MEDICINE, 1582 01:16:47,133 --> 01:16:50,333 TO EAT RIGHT, GET REST AND LIVE FOREVER. 1583 01:16:50,333 --> 01:16:52,333 THAT'S WHAT HE WAS PLANNING. 1584 01:16:52,333 --> 01:16:55,200 THANK YOU AGAIN AND I'LL SEE YOU SOON. 1585 01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:58,734 BUT AS MAGIC PUT UP A POSITIVE PUBLIC FACE, 1586 01:16:58,734 --> 01:17:00,700 HIS NEMESIS, STILL OUT OF SORTS, 1587 01:17:00,700 --> 01:17:04,834 SHED THE MASK HE HAD HIDDEN BEHIND FOR YEARS. 1588 01:17:04,834 --> 01:17:08,066 HE WAS VISIBLY LIKE, "WOW! HOW COULD THAT HAPPEN?" 1589 01:17:08,066 --> 01:17:11,600 IT REALLY SET HIM BACK. 1590 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,967 PROBABLY THE TWO TOUGHEST DAYS I'VE HAD SINCE MY FATHER PASSED AWAY. 1591 01:17:14,967 --> 01:17:18,433 I'VE BEEN VERY DEPRESSED AND IN SORT OF DENIAL OF IT. 1592 01:17:18,433 --> 01:17:20,500 I LISTENED TO HIM TALK IN THIS PRESS CONFERENCE 1593 01:17:20,500 --> 01:17:24,200 ABOUT HOW DEVASTATED HE WAS, AND I REMEMBER THINKING TO MYSELF, 1594 01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,967 "GOD DAMN, LARRY FOUND EARVIN." 1595 01:17:27,967 --> 01:17:30,400 OUT OF THE BLUE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING, 1596 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,200 IT'S JUST-- 1597 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,400 I'VE NEVER HAD OTHER THAN ONE OTHER INSTANCE, 1598 01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,400 AND I WAS HOPING I WOULD NEVER SEE THAT AGAIN 1599 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:40,266 BECAUSE I REMEMBER HOW I FELT WEEKS AFTER THAT, 1600 01:17:40,266 --> 01:17:44,233 AND YESTERDAY WAS JUST A SAD DAY. 1601 01:17:44,233 --> 01:17:46,600 AND AT HIS GAME THAT NIGHT, 1602 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,934 BIRD WAS FORCED TO CONFRONT PAIN 1603 01:17:48,934 --> 01:17:51,433 HE COULDN'T SO EASILY PLAY THROUGH. 1604 01:17:52,834 --> 01:17:55,133 I DIDN'T WANNA BE THERE THAT NIGHT. 1605 01:17:55,133 --> 01:17:57,600 FIRST TIME EVER 1606 01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,533 AND REALLY THE LAST. 1607 01:17:59,533 --> 01:18:01,600 I REMEMBER WE PLAYED ATLANTA. 1608 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,200 HAD NO FEEL FOR THE GAME, YOU KNOW? 1609 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,967 JUST WASN'T A GOOD TIME TO BE OUT THERE. 1610 01:18:08,967 --> 01:18:10,900 NEVER HAD THAT BEFORE. 1611 01:18:10,900 --> 01:18:12,400 THAT NIGHT HE THREW A PASS. 1612 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,700 I'LL NEVER FORGET IT. HE THREW A HALF-COURT PASS 1613 01:18:14,700 --> 01:18:18,166 BEHIND HIS BACK FOR A LAYUP, 1614 01:18:18,166 --> 01:18:21,433 AND IF YOU BLURRED YOUR EYES, YOU SQUINTED YOUR EYES, IT LOOKED LIKE MAGIC. 1615 01:18:21,433 --> 01:18:24,233 AND IT WAS LARRY SAYING GOODBYE. 1616 01:18:28,567 --> 01:18:32,033 I MEAN, THIS COMPETITION THING IS AMAZING, 1617 01:18:32,033 --> 01:18:35,066 WHAT IT DOES TO YOU. 1618 01:18:35,066 --> 01:18:37,200 WHAT YOU PUT YOUR BODY THROUGH AND WHAT YOU DO 1619 01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,734 AND WHAT YOU SAY AND HOW YOU FEEL, 1620 01:18:39,734 --> 01:18:42,066 AND KNOWING THAT HE'S NOT THERE 1621 01:18:42,066 --> 01:18:44,066 WOULDN'T FEEL RIGHT, 1622 01:18:44,066 --> 01:18:46,667 BUT I THINK IT'S ALL THEM YEARS THAT, YOU KNOW, 1623 01:18:46,667 --> 01:18:49,467 "WHAT'S HE DOING? I WONDER IF HE'S PRACTICING AS HARD." 1624 01:18:49,467 --> 01:18:53,033 I BET HE SHOT 500 SHOTS TODAY, AND I DIDN'T GET 500 IN. 1625 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,767 THERE'S ALWAYS MIND-GAMES. 1626 01:18:56,767 --> 01:19:00,500 BIRD PLAYED THROUGH THE '91-'92 SEASON, 1627 01:19:00,500 --> 01:19:03,033 HIS LAST IN THE NBA, 1628 01:19:03,033 --> 01:19:06,633 BUT A PART OF HIM WAS ALREADY GONE. 1629 01:19:06,633 --> 01:19:08,066 I DIDN'T CHECK THE PAPERS ANYMORE. 1630 01:19:08,066 --> 01:19:11,633 IT DIDN'T MATTER. 1631 01:19:11,633 --> 01:19:15,233 I STILL WANTED TO COMPETE, YOU KNOW? 1632 01:19:15,233 --> 01:19:18,000 BUT IT WASN'T THE SAME. 1633 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:19,700 IT REALLY WASN'T. 1634 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,700 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT YEAR 1635 01:19:25,700 --> 01:19:27,700 WHEN HE WAS CALLED "TRAGIC" JOHNSON, 1636 01:19:27,700 --> 01:19:31,033 'CAUSE ON THE BASKETBALL COURT, THINGS DIDN'T SHAKE DOWN PROPERLY, 1637 01:19:31,033 --> 01:19:35,033 THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M HEARING IGNORANCE, 1638 01:19:35,033 --> 01:19:37,367 HATRED, 1639 01:19:37,367 --> 01:19:39,233 VICIOUS, NASTY THINGS. 1640 01:19:39,233 --> 01:19:42,967 THERE WERE SOME OF MY FORMER TEAMMATES 1641 01:19:42,967 --> 01:19:45,800 WHO HAD THEIR OWN LITTLE THINGS THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT 1642 01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,934 AND WHY THIS HAPPENED TO ME. 1643 01:19:47,934 --> 01:19:50,100 "YOU KNOW ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S A HETEROSEXUAL THAT GOT IT? 1644 01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:51,700 COME ON, MAN. 1645 01:19:51,700 --> 01:19:53,667 YOU'RE IN DENIAL." 1646 01:19:53,667 --> 01:19:57,500 I'VE BEEN CALLED GAY, FAGGOT, EARVIN'S LOVER. 1647 01:19:57,500 --> 01:19:59,600 I'VE BEEN CALLED ALL THAT SHIT. 1648 01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,667 LON ROSEN GOT A CALL FROM ISAIAH THOMAS ASKING, 1649 01:20:02,667 --> 01:20:04,834 "YOU KNOW, I KEEP HEARING MAGIC'S GAY." 1650 01:20:04,834 --> 01:20:07,667 AND LON SAID, "FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ANYBODY HE ISN'T. 1651 01:20:07,667 --> 01:20:09,567 YOU'RE ONE OF HIS BEST FRIENDS." AND HE SAID, 1652 01:20:09,567 --> 01:20:11,567 "WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN HOLLYWOOD." 1653 01:20:11,567 --> 01:20:14,734 AND THE FACT THAT ISAIAH WAS QUESTIONING WHY HE GOT THIS, 1654 01:20:14,734 --> 01:20:17,133 I THINK IT WAS REALLY REALLY HURTFUL TO HIM. 1655 01:20:19,033 --> 01:20:21,400 HE USED TO SAY, "I DON'T WANT PEOPLE 1656 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,800 TO STOP SHAKING MY HAND AND GIVING ME MY HUGS." 1657 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,333 HE LOVES TO BE LOVED. 1658 01:20:29,333 --> 01:20:32,367 THAT'S WHAT BOTHERED HIM THE MOST-- 1659 01:20:32,367 --> 01:20:35,433 THAT PEOPLE WOULD CHANGE 1660 01:20:35,433 --> 01:20:37,567 IN RELATIONSHIP TO HIM. 1661 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,500 HE WOULD SHOW UP AT THE LAKERS' FACILITY TO WORK OUT 1662 01:20:42,500 --> 01:20:45,200 AND TO SHOOT SOME BASKETS. AND HE'D TRY TO ENGAGE HIS TEAMMATES, 1663 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,700 AND SAY, "HEY, YOU WANNA PLAY A LITTLE ONE-ON-ONE BEFORE PRACTICE?" 1664 01:20:47,700 --> 01:20:50,000 "OH, JEEZ, NO, I CAN'T. I GOTTA GO GET TAPED." 1665 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,433 OR "OH, JEEZ, I GOT WORK TO DO. I GOTTA DO SOMETHING ELSE." 1666 01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,533 THE WORST THING OF ALL OF THIS-- 1667 01:20:56,533 --> 01:20:58,967 THAT I COULDN'T PLAY BASKETBALL. 1668 01:20:58,967 --> 01:21:02,500 I DON'T EVEN THINK DEALING WITH H.I.V.-- 1669 01:21:02,500 --> 01:21:04,066 IT WAS I COULDN'T PLAY. 1670 01:21:04,066 --> 01:21:06,033 THE GAME, 1671 01:21:06,033 --> 01:21:08,433 THE SURROUNDINGS WAS HIS WHOLE WORLD. 1672 01:21:08,433 --> 01:21:10,433 THAT'S HIS PERSONALITY. 1673 01:21:10,433 --> 01:21:13,133 WHEN YOU TAKE THAT AWAY, 1674 01:21:13,133 --> 01:21:15,100 YOU'RE HURTING HIM. 1675 01:21:15,100 --> 01:21:17,133 I KNEW HE WAS HURTING IN A BIG WAY. 1676 01:21:17,133 --> 01:21:20,667 THE ONLY SEX IS SAFE SEX, AND THAT'S NO SEX. 1677 01:21:20,667 --> 01:21:23,934 AS BASKETBALL WENT ON WITHOUT HIM, 1678 01:21:23,934 --> 01:21:27,900 MAGIC PERFORMED ABLY IN HIS NEW ROLE AS H.I.V. EDUCATOR AND SPOKESMAN. 1679 01:21:29,767 --> 01:21:32,467 I'M GONNA HELP IN EVERY WAY THAT I CAN. 1680 01:21:32,467 --> 01:21:34,734 BUT HE STILL PINED FOR THE ARENA 1681 01:21:34,734 --> 01:21:36,600 WHICH HAD MADE HIM A STAR. 1682 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,100 SO WHEN HE WAS INVITED TO PLAY 1683 01:21:38,100 --> 01:21:41,133 IN THE 1992 NBA ALL-STAR GAME... 1684 01:21:41,133 --> 01:21:44,467 Magic Johnson! 1685 01:21:44,467 --> 01:21:46,567 ...HE'D JUMP AT THE CHANCE, 1686 01:21:46,567 --> 01:21:49,700 PROMPTLY STEALING THE SHOW AND WINNING MVP HONORS. 1687 01:21:51,500 --> 01:21:53,200 BUT THAT WAS JUST A WARM-UP 1688 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,500 FOR THE ENCORE MAGIC HAD UP HIS SLEEVE. 1689 01:21:56,500 --> 01:21:59,800 HE'S NOT DONE YET. WE'RE GONNA GO TO BARCELONA AND BRING BACK THE GOLD 1690 01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:01,767 FOR EVERYONE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. 1691 01:22:01,767 --> 01:22:04,533 THANKS, LARRY. 1692 01:22:04,533 --> 01:22:07,934 FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, NBA PLAYERS WOULD BE COMPETING 1693 01:22:07,934 --> 01:22:11,700 IN THE OLYMPICS, AND MAGIC, ARMED WITH A MESSAGE, 1694 01:22:11,700 --> 01:22:13,667 WAS NOT ABOUT TO MISS THE SHOW. 1695 01:22:13,667 --> 01:22:15,433 IT WAS TO PROVE TO PEOPLE 1696 01:22:15,433 --> 01:22:19,500 THAT YOU WERE NOT GONNA GET THE DISEASE PLAYING AGAINST ME, 1697 01:22:19,500 --> 01:22:22,433 AND THEN ALSO FOR ME TOO, PERSONALLY. 1698 01:22:22,433 --> 01:22:24,467 YOU KNOW, IT WAS THERAPY. 1699 01:22:24,467 --> 01:22:25,967 IT WAS A WAY TO SAY, 1700 01:22:25,967 --> 01:22:29,600 "MAN, YOU GET TO DO THIS ONE MORE TIME." 1701 01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,767 THERE WAS ALSO ONE OTHER PERK. 1702 01:22:32,767 --> 01:22:35,633 I THINK PLAYING WITH LARRY WAS VERY IMPORTANT. 1703 01:22:35,633 --> 01:22:38,800 THAT'S SOMETHING THEY TALKED ABOUT. HE WAS GONNA BE ON THE DREAM TEAM. 1704 01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:40,300 HE WAS GONNA BE WITH MICHAEL, BARKLEY, 1705 01:22:40,300 --> 01:22:43,166 BUT HE WAS GONNA PLAY WITH LARRY. 1706 01:22:43,166 --> 01:22:46,600 MAGIC KEPT SAYING TO HIM, "I JUST WANNA GET YOU OUT ON THAT COURT ONE MORE TIME. 1707 01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,600 LET'S JUST HAVE ONE MORE SEQUENCE LIKE WE HAD 1708 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,500 ALL THE WAY BACK IN 1978." 1709 01:22:51,500 --> 01:22:55,033 BUT IT WAS INTERESTING WITH MAGIC BEING THE ONE THAT WAS H.I.V. POSITIVE, 1710 01:22:55,033 --> 01:22:57,600 HE FELT GREAT. HE WAS IN THE BEST SHAPE OF HIS LIFE. 1711 01:22:59,767 --> 01:23:01,800 HE HAD WORKED SO HARD TO MAKE SURE HE DIDN'T GO THERE 1712 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,433 AS A TOKEN PLAYER, AND HERE WAS LARRY, 1713 01:23:04,433 --> 01:23:07,700 WHO COULDN'T EVEN PRACTICE. WHO COULD BARELY MOVE. 1714 01:23:10,266 --> 01:23:12,266 BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IT DIDN'T MATTER. 1715 01:23:12,266 --> 01:23:14,400 WE WERE STILL TOGETHER. 1716 01:23:17,166 --> 01:23:18,433 YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T MATTER. 1717 01:23:34,667 --> 01:23:36,767 AND WHEN HE GOT HIS OPPORTUNITIES, 1718 01:23:36,767 --> 01:23:38,500 HE SWISHED A FEW. 1719 01:23:38,500 --> 01:23:40,767 LARRY! 1720 01:23:42,767 --> 01:23:46,367 Larry Bird! 1721 01:23:46,367 --> 01:23:49,033 WHO'S TAKING THE LAST SHOT WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE? 1722 01:23:49,033 --> 01:23:51,233 WHEN I GOT MY OPPORTUNITY, 1723 01:23:51,233 --> 01:23:52,934 I STILL WAS MAGIC. 1724 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,834 It's Magic! 1725 01:23:59,934 --> 01:24:02,867 14 YEARS AFTER THEY'D FIRST CROSSED PATHS, 1726 01:24:02,867 --> 01:24:05,166 THE SMILING KID FROM LANSING 1727 01:24:05,166 --> 01:24:06,934 AND THE SHY BOY FROM FRENCH LICK 1728 01:24:06,934 --> 01:24:09,700 WERE HAPPILY BACK TOGETHER IN BARCELONA. 1729 01:24:09,700 --> 01:24:12,000 BUT IT TOOK JUST ONE GLANCE 1730 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,033 OUTSIDE THEIR HOTEL'S FRONT DOOR EACH MORNING 1731 01:24:15,033 --> 01:24:18,367 FOR THEM TO SEE THAT AS FAR AS THEY HAD COME, 1732 01:24:18,367 --> 01:24:21,600 THEY WERE AS FAR APART AS EVER. 1733 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,166 THE ONLY WAY YOU WALK OUT THAT DOOR IF YOU WANTED ATTENTION. 1734 01:24:24,166 --> 01:24:27,400 BUT I ASKED THIS GUY I KNOW, "HOW CAN YOU GET AROUND THIS? 1735 01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,300 THERE'S GOTTA BE A WAY." 1736 01:24:29,300 --> 01:24:31,800 LO AND BEHOLD, THERE WAS A SIDE DOOR. 1737 01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,700 YOU CAN GO WHEREVER YOU WANT. 1738 01:24:34,700 --> 01:24:36,700 I WAS GONNA TELL HIM ABOUT IT, 1739 01:24:36,700 --> 01:24:38,700 BUT SEEING THAT SMILE ON HIS FACE 1740 01:24:38,700 --> 01:24:41,233 THE CLOSER HE GOT TO THAT FRONT DOOR, COME ON. 1741 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,467 HE DIDN'T WANT NO SIDE DOOR. YOU KNOW EARVIN. 1742 01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:50,967 HE'D GO RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THEM. 1743 01:24:50,967 --> 01:24:54,200 TURN IT THE LONG WAY, SWEETHEART. THERE YOU GO. 1744 01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,100 I'M GOING OUT THE FRONT 'CAUSE THAT'S WHO I AM. 1745 01:24:57,100 --> 01:24:59,166 I DON'T GO OUT THE BACK. 1746 01:24:59,166 --> 01:25:00,967 I DON'T GO OUT THE SIDE. 1747 01:25:00,967 --> 01:25:02,467 THAT'S NOT ME. 1748 01:25:02,467 --> 01:25:05,166 IF YOU WANNA GO SOMEWHERE IN A HURRY, 1749 01:25:05,166 --> 01:25:09,066 THERE'S A DOOR THAT LEADS YOU THERE. 1750 01:25:09,066 --> 01:25:10,367 I FOUND IT. 1751 01:25:10,367 --> 01:25:11,867 I RESPECTED HIM FOR THAT. 1752 01:25:11,867 --> 01:25:15,967 AND SO, HELL, I WOULD TRY TO FIND A SIDE DOOR FOR HIM. 1753 01:25:18,767 --> 01:25:22,333 AND WE NEVER TRIED TO CHANGE EACH OTHER. 1754 01:25:22,333 --> 01:25:25,433 THAT'S WHAT MADE THIS RELATIONSHIP GREAT. 1755 01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:33,767 ONE OF MY PET PEEVES ALWAYS IS WHEN PEOPLE SAY, "MICHAEL JORDAN SAVED THE NBA." 1756 01:25:33,767 --> 01:25:36,967 BULLSHIT! BULLSHIT. 1757 01:25:36,967 --> 01:25:39,567 MAGIC AND LARRY SAVED THE NBA. 1758 01:25:39,567 --> 01:25:41,867 THAT'S WHO SAVED THE NBA-- 1759 01:25:41,867 --> 01:25:43,800 MAGIC AND LARRY. 1760 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,800 MAGIC AND LARRY. 1761 01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:47,834 BIRD AND MAGIC. 1762 01:25:47,834 --> 01:25:50,333 TO THE MILLIONS WHO ONCE WATCHED THEM, 1763 01:25:50,333 --> 01:25:53,000 NOW MORE THAN EVER THEY ARE INSEPARABLE, 1764 01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,133 A PAIR OF ATHLETES THROWN TOGETHER 1765 01:25:55,133 --> 01:25:57,400 BY THE COSMOS TO COMPETE; 1766 01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,066 A PAIR OF MEN WHO DISCOVERED A BOND 1767 01:26:00,066 --> 01:26:02,633 IN THE MIDST OF THAT COMPETITION. 1768 01:26:02,633 --> 01:26:06,133 DECADES REMOVED FROM THE HEIGHT OF THEIR RIVALRY, 1769 01:26:06,133 --> 01:26:08,300 THEIR BOND ENDURES, 1770 01:26:08,300 --> 01:26:10,967 TWO IMPOSSIBLY DIFFERENT MEN 1771 01:26:10,967 --> 01:26:14,166 WITH A CONNECTION ONLY THEY CAN FULLY GRASP. 1772 01:26:14,166 --> 01:26:15,700 IT'S ALMOST LIKE A PRIVATE LITTLE CLUB, 1773 01:26:15,700 --> 01:26:17,367 AND ONLY THE TWO OF THEM ARE IN IT. 1774 01:26:17,367 --> 01:26:19,300 AND EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, THEY NEED TO SHOW UP 1775 01:26:19,300 --> 01:26:21,300 TO HAVE A REUNION AND PAY THEIR DUES TO EACH OTHER, 1776 01:26:21,300 --> 01:26:23,400 BUT THEY DON'T NEED THE DAY-TO-DAY CONTACT THAT MOST FRIENDS NEED. 1777 01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,367 IT'S JUST NOT THAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP. 1778 01:26:25,367 --> 01:26:28,633 I ALWAYS GET THIS GOOD FEELING WHEN I KNOW I'M GONNA SEE HIM 1779 01:26:28,633 --> 01:26:32,066 BECAUSE HE MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD. 1780 01:26:32,066 --> 01:26:33,734 HE REALLY DOES. 1781 01:26:33,734 --> 01:26:35,867 HE'S UNBELIEVABLE. 1782 01:26:35,867 --> 01:26:38,967 HE'S VERY PRIVATE, BUT IF HE'S YOUR FRIEND, 1783 01:26:38,967 --> 01:26:42,767 MAN, YOU GOT A FRIEND FOR LIFE. 1784 01:26:42,767 --> 01:26:45,867 AND LARRY BIRD IS A STRAIGHT SHOOTER. 1785 01:26:45,867 --> 01:26:48,433 HE'LL TELL YOU WHEN HE DON'T LIKE YOU. 1786 01:26:48,433 --> 01:26:50,433 THAT'S ONE THING I WISH I COULD HAVE 1787 01:26:50,433 --> 01:26:53,000 THAT HE HAS THAT I DON'T HAVE. 1788 01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,000 I WISH I HAD THAT. 1789 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,400 IF HE WALKED IN HERE, THIS WHOLE ROOM WOULD CHANGE. 1790 01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:00,066 AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE, 1791 01:27:00,066 --> 01:27:02,166 BUT I JUST COULDN'T. 1792 01:28:12,734 --> 01:28:15,000 THIS HAS BEEN A PRESENTATION 1793 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,533 OF "HBO SPORTS." 1793 01:28:18,305 --> 01:28:24,754 Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from OpenSubtitles.org142427

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