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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,569 --> 00:00:03,302 BEN: A small country with many enemies. 2 00:00:03,337 --> 00:00:06,205 We are really, really threatened by other countries, 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,175 and we need to find innovative ways how to defend ourselves. 4 00:00:10,211 --> 00:00:13,111 Israel builds its cyber arsenal. 5 00:00:13,147 --> 00:00:15,214 We intend to be 6 00:00:15,249 --> 00:00:18,984 one of the five leading cyber powers in the world. 7 00:00:19,019 --> 00:00:21,386 But how are they using their power? 8 00:00:21,422 --> 00:00:24,957 We need to decrypt the Iranian code because 9 00:00:24,992 --> 00:00:27,292 they are threatening us with nuclear weapons. 10 00:00:27,328 --> 00:00:29,328 What's the cost of that strength? 11 00:00:29,363 --> 00:00:31,496 Israelis did not only occupy the land, 12 00:00:31,532 --> 00:00:34,032 they occupied the sky also and the air around us. 13 00:00:35,502 --> 00:00:45,510 ♪ 14 00:00:53,954 --> 00:00:55,387 Spring of 2015. 15 00:00:55,422 --> 00:00:58,223 A cyber security company discovers a piece of spyware 16 00:00:58,259 --> 00:01:02,060 targeting three hotels in Switzerland and Austria. 17 00:01:02,096 --> 00:01:05,831 All three of those hotels were hosting high level negotiations 18 00:01:05,866 --> 00:01:08,100 on the future of Iran's nuclear program. 19 00:01:09,770 --> 00:01:14,273 The malware, called Duqu 2.0, was really versatile. 20 00:01:14,308 --> 00:01:16,708 It could do anything from tapping phone lines to operating 21 00:01:16,744 --> 00:01:21,280 two-way mics in hotel elevators, computers, and alarm systems. 22 00:01:21,315 --> 00:01:24,249 Duqu could theoretically spy on the Iranians, 23 00:01:24,285 --> 00:01:27,753 but also on the Americans and their negotiating partners. 24 00:01:27,788 --> 00:01:30,422 There are enemies to these talks, 25 00:01:30,457 --> 00:01:35,127 and they will do whatever they can. 26 00:01:35,162 --> 00:01:37,562 It's almost impossible to conclusively identify 27 00:01:37,598 --> 00:01:40,632 who created Duqu, but fingers immediately 28 00:01:40,668 --> 00:01:42,200 started pointing at Israel, 29 00:01:42,236 --> 00:01:45,003 a country with both the motive and the means. 30 00:01:49,410 --> 00:01:51,877 I flew to Washington to meet Adam Entous, 31 00:01:51,912 --> 00:01:55,113 the Wall Street Journal reporter who first broke the Duqu story. 32 00:01:56,116 --> 00:01:58,317 You broke some stories that the Israelis were not only spying 33 00:01:58,352 --> 00:02:00,786 on the US during these negotiations, 34 00:02:00,821 --> 00:02:03,755 but they were also feeding information to Congress. 35 00:02:03,791 --> 00:02:04,956 How'd you verify that? 36 00:02:04,992 --> 00:02:06,892 So what happened was is that 37 00:02:06,927 --> 00:02:10,462 we were monitoring Israeli communications very closely. 38 00:02:10,497 --> 00:02:13,632 The US was sharing some details with the Israelis 39 00:02:13,667 --> 00:02:15,901 about the ongoing negotiations, 40 00:02:15,936 --> 00:02:17,836 but we weren't telling them everything. 41 00:02:17,871 --> 00:02:21,440 But we started seeing in references to details 42 00:02:21,475 --> 00:02:24,009 from the negotiations that the White House knew 43 00:02:24,044 --> 00:02:26,345 they were not providing to the Israelis. 44 00:02:26,380 --> 00:02:29,147 Bottom line is is that the experts that analyzed it 45 00:02:29,183 --> 00:02:31,616 and current and former US officials who also have 46 00:02:31,652 --> 00:02:35,954 taken a look believe that Duqu 2.0 is an espionage tool 47 00:02:35,989 --> 00:02:40,025 that's used by Israel for it's biggest spying operations. 48 00:02:40,060 --> 00:02:43,261 Given the fact that the US spends so much money in support 49 00:02:43,297 --> 00:02:47,599 of Israel's military and its intelligence services, 50 00:02:47,634 --> 00:02:50,769 that Israel is so aggressive at spying against the United States 51 00:02:50,804 --> 00:02:55,841 does upset, you know, counter-intelligence officials 52 00:02:55,876 --> 00:02:58,543 in the United States because they feel like 53 00:02:58,579 --> 00:03:00,445 they should be focused on other things. 54 00:03:01,882 --> 00:03:05,550 And the money the US government gives to Israel is substantial. 55 00:03:05,586 --> 00:03:08,153 Since the creation of the state in 1948, 56 00:03:08,188 --> 00:03:12,157 the Americans have handed over more than $120 billion in aid, 57 00:03:12,192 --> 00:03:14,993 most of it in the form of military assistance. 58 00:03:15,028 --> 00:03:18,196 But military aid alone doesn't explain Israel's emergence 59 00:03:18,232 --> 00:03:21,066 as a global cyber super power. 60 00:03:21,101 --> 00:03:24,669 So how does a small country like Israel become such a big player 61 00:03:24,705 --> 00:03:26,638 in cyber warfare? 62 00:03:26,673 --> 00:03:29,374 And if the Israeli government is spying on the United States, 63 00:03:29,410 --> 00:03:32,144 its closest ally and its biggest financier, 64 00:03:32,179 --> 00:03:34,579 what does it say about the country's agenda? 65 00:03:34,615 --> 00:03:37,149 Ronen Bergman is an investigative journalist 66 00:03:37,184 --> 00:03:39,518 and a senior political and military analyst for 67 00:03:39,553 --> 00:03:42,354 one of Israel's largest circulation daily newspapers. 68 00:03:42,389 --> 00:03:43,755 - Ben, hi. - Nice to meet you. 69 00:03:43,791 --> 00:03:45,590 Pleasure to meet you, welcome, welcome to Israel. 70 00:03:45,626 --> 00:03:48,093 I met him at his home outside of Tel Aviv. 71 00:03:48,128 --> 00:03:52,330 What do you make of something like Duqu 2.0 that was malware 72 00:03:52,366 --> 00:03:56,835 that was targeting specific diplomatic discussions, 73 00:03:56,870 --> 00:04:01,072 and it seemed to benefit one country and its interests. 74 00:04:01,108 --> 00:04:04,009 Do you think the Israelis did it? 75 00:04:05,446 --> 00:04:10,048 Look, I'm not dealing directly with Israeli intelligence 76 00:04:10,083 --> 00:04:15,253 on the USA, 'cause otherwise this gonna be my last interview, 77 00:04:15,289 --> 00:04:17,589 or our next meeting will be... 78 00:04:17,624 --> 00:04:20,459 I would say with some sort of bars or... 79 00:04:20,494 --> 00:04:22,260 or glass between us. 80 00:04:24,298 --> 00:04:26,031 Ronen Bergman wouldn't give me a straight answer 81 00:04:26,066 --> 00:04:29,267 when it came to Duqu or spying on Americans. 82 00:04:29,303 --> 00:04:31,803 But if the malware actually was Israeli, 83 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,939 many people believe it came out of the military's 84 00:04:33,974 --> 00:04:37,642 signals intelligence branch, Unit 8200. 85 00:04:37,678 --> 00:04:41,279 Military service is compulsory for most Israelis, 86 00:04:41,315 --> 00:04:45,383 and Unit 8200 gets its pick of potential recruits. 87 00:04:45,419 --> 00:04:49,988 But why is it that the Israelis are so good at cyber security? 88 00:04:50,023 --> 00:04:52,891 Well, I think it started a long time ago. 89 00:04:52,926 --> 00:04:55,794 If you are the military intelligence, 90 00:04:55,829 --> 00:04:59,731 from very early point they got the permission to select 91 00:04:59,766 --> 00:05:03,568 from the, you know, thousands and thousands of teens, 92 00:05:03,604 --> 00:05:06,605 and you offer them to play a very unique game. 93 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,074 A game that they can play only in Israel, 94 00:05:09,109 --> 00:05:11,343 only in military intelligence, they won't be able to play 95 00:05:11,378 --> 00:05:12,811 any other place in the world. 96 00:05:12,846 --> 00:05:16,147 The game is this: you get at least three years 97 00:05:16,183 --> 00:05:19,251 of innovation summer camp, 98 00:05:19,286 --> 00:05:22,187 continuous innovation summer camp, 99 00:05:22,222 --> 00:05:26,625 to come up with a solution that would save the country. 100 00:05:26,660 --> 00:05:30,562 The deployment of your solution could be very quick because we 101 00:05:30,597 --> 00:05:35,934 need to decrypt the Iranian code because they are threatening us 102 00:05:35,969 --> 00:05:38,803 with nuclear weapon, or the possibility of nuclear weapon. 103 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,440 We need to hack into the computer of that jihadist 104 00:05:42,476 --> 00:05:46,344 because he's planning the next suicide bombing. 105 00:05:46,380 --> 00:05:48,346 That's a great responsibility. 106 00:05:48,382 --> 00:05:53,018 And you get as young as 18 or 19 years old to deal with 107 00:05:53,053 --> 00:05:56,788 the most exciting stuff that anyone can deal with: 108 00:05:56,823 --> 00:05:58,356 espionage. 109 00:05:58,392 --> 00:06:01,026 Is there ever a thought within Israeli society that all this 110 00:06:01,061 --> 00:06:05,964 innovation is coming from a game played by these kids that's 111 00:06:05,999 --> 00:06:08,900 actually pretty lethal and has real world implications? 112 00:06:08,936 --> 00:06:10,735 These innovations are coming out of wars. 113 00:06:12,005 --> 00:06:14,172 This innovation saved the country. 114 00:06:15,676 --> 00:06:17,008 I will say it again: 115 00:06:17,044 --> 00:06:21,513 the innovation of these young kids saved Israel. 116 00:06:22,950 --> 00:06:24,482 I wanted to meet some of the kids 117 00:06:24,518 --> 00:06:27,385 destined for the cyber units of Israel's armed forces. 118 00:06:27,421 --> 00:06:29,888 After turning 18, most Israelis are obliged 119 00:06:29,923 --> 00:06:32,857 to serve in the military for 2 to 3 years. 120 00:06:32,893 --> 00:06:35,927 Many teenagers hope to join Unit 8200, 121 00:06:35,963 --> 00:06:38,496 the signals intelligence branch, and the largest single 122 00:06:38,532 --> 00:06:41,900 military unit in the Israeli Defense Forces. 123 00:06:41,935 --> 00:06:44,903 But they don't actually get to choose where they're drafted. 124 00:06:44,938 --> 00:06:47,505 In 2013, the Ministry of Defense helped create 125 00:06:47,541 --> 00:06:50,208 a national program for promising high school students 126 00:06:50,243 --> 00:06:52,777 aiming to be future cyber warriors. 127 00:06:52,813 --> 00:06:54,846 There are 10 high schools offering this program 128 00:06:54,881 --> 00:06:56,681 across the country, 129 00:06:56,717 --> 00:06:59,417 and Amal Lady Davis High School is one of the them. 130 00:06:59,453 --> 00:07:02,354 Toby Stupp has been teaching here for the past 10 years. 131 00:07:02,389 --> 00:07:03,688 - Hello. - Hi! 132 00:07:03,724 --> 00:07:05,423 - Nice to meet you. - Welcome! 133 00:07:05,459 --> 00:07:08,059 Thank you. Is this Hacking 101? 134 00:07:08,095 --> 00:07:12,430 Well, actually we're not really teaching them hacking, 135 00:07:12,466 --> 00:07:15,900 because we don't want to emphasize how to steal things 136 00:07:15,936 --> 00:07:17,535 or how to break into things. 137 00:07:17,571 --> 00:07:18,937 That's not what we're into. 138 00:07:18,972 --> 00:07:21,139 - So more defensive stuff? - It's more defensive. 139 00:07:21,174 --> 00:07:23,441 Many of the students I spoke to were aiming to get into 140 00:07:23,477 --> 00:07:26,745 Unit 8200, or Talpiot, an elite program 141 00:07:26,780 --> 00:07:29,781 with the IDF's research and development arm. 142 00:07:29,816 --> 00:07:32,417 And it's not just because they want to serve their country. 143 00:07:32,452 --> 00:07:34,486 What they learn in the military can also set them up for 144 00:07:34,521 --> 00:07:37,656 a pretty baller career after their service is all done. 145 00:07:37,691 --> 00:07:40,992 Yair Ben Shimol and Jonatan Wallenstein 146 00:07:41,028 --> 00:07:43,128 are students in the cyber program. 147 00:07:43,163 --> 00:07:45,063 Why'd you do this class? 148 00:07:45,098 --> 00:07:46,297 To benefit us in the army. 149 00:07:46,333 --> 00:07:47,899 So something like Unit 8200. 150 00:07:47,934 --> 00:07:49,167 - Hmm? - Unit 8200. 151 00:07:49,202 --> 00:07:50,669 Yes, 8200. 152 00:07:50,704 --> 00:07:52,904 Is that something that people wanna do? 153 00:07:52,939 --> 00:07:55,807 I'm aiming more for like another program. 154 00:07:55,842 --> 00:07:58,643 It's called Talpiot, which is pretty much 155 00:07:58,679 --> 00:08:00,345 the elite of the elite. 156 00:08:00,380 --> 00:08:01,846 And if you get there, you're pretty much 157 00:08:01,882 --> 00:08:03,348 set up for your life. 158 00:08:03,383 --> 00:08:05,684 Just go to a walk-in place and say, "I was Talpiot," 159 00:08:05,719 --> 00:08:07,452 throwing your money about it. 160 00:08:07,487 --> 00:08:09,254 - Start making it rain. - Yeah, making it rain. 161 00:08:09,289 --> 00:08:10,822 - Everybody wants you. - Girls, money... 162 00:08:10,857 --> 00:08:13,258 - Girls, money, cars. - Cars. 163 00:08:13,293 --> 00:08:14,993 Sex, drugs, and rock and roll. 164 00:08:15,028 --> 00:08:16,728 (Laughing) 165 00:08:16,763 --> 00:08:18,930 I don't know if hackers are... get all that. 166 00:08:23,804 --> 00:08:25,937 BEN: With fresh recruits every year and an annual turnover 167 00:08:25,972 --> 00:08:29,741 of 25%, Unit 8200, the Israeli Military's 168 00:08:29,776 --> 00:08:33,311 signals intelligence branch, is like a revolving door. 169 00:08:33,346 --> 00:08:35,313 Many former soldiers come out of the unit 170 00:08:35,348 --> 00:08:38,283 and head straight for private cyber security companies. 171 00:08:38,318 --> 00:08:40,285 Well, it's brand new. 172 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,321 I'm in Tel Aviv to meet with Nadav Zafrir. 173 00:08:43,356 --> 00:08:45,790 He's a former commander of Unit 8200. 174 00:08:45,826 --> 00:08:49,360 Today, he's the CEO of Team 8, a multi-million dollar 175 00:08:49,396 --> 00:08:52,464 private cyber security company in Tel Aviv. 176 00:08:52,499 --> 00:08:56,334 We are a nation of entrepreneurs. 177 00:08:56,369 --> 00:08:58,369 And so the high tech scene here has been booming 178 00:08:58,405 --> 00:08:59,838 for many years already. 179 00:08:59,873 --> 00:09:02,807 We've also been able to create innovation, 180 00:09:02,843 --> 00:09:06,344 creativity, and talent creation through the military service, 181 00:09:06,379 --> 00:09:09,380 which used to be a burden on our economy but lately is almost 182 00:09:09,416 --> 00:09:12,217 becoming a part of the strength of our economy. 183 00:09:12,252 --> 00:09:15,620 And you know, it's no secret you were in Unit 8200. 184 00:09:15,655 --> 00:09:17,889 'Cause it's funny, we've been talking to a lot of these kids, 185 00:09:17,924 --> 00:09:19,991 and they're not wanting to be Israeli Rambo. 186 00:09:20,026 --> 00:09:22,894 Like they want to be in Unit 8200, it's this thing. 187 00:09:22,929 --> 00:09:27,699 Yeah, 'cause it's almost a mixture between going to 188 00:09:27,734 --> 00:09:31,870 an Ivy League university and doing your internship 189 00:09:31,905 --> 00:09:34,506 all at once, while you're serving your country. 190 00:09:34,541 --> 00:09:36,307 They come with all their naivety, 191 00:09:36,343 --> 00:09:37,909 with all their faith in what they're doing, 192 00:09:37,944 --> 00:09:39,978 with all their motivation, and together they create 193 00:09:40,013 --> 00:09:41,913 something which is truly exceptional. 194 00:09:43,850 --> 00:09:46,417 They may come in with naivety and faith, 195 00:09:46,453 --> 00:09:48,853 but they don't all leave that way. 196 00:09:48,889 --> 00:09:52,190 In 2014, 43 reserve soldiers wrote an open letter 197 00:09:52,225 --> 00:09:53,725 to the Israeli prime minister 198 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,495 criticizing some of Unit 8200's surveillance practices. 199 00:09:57,531 --> 00:10:01,199 The covert SIGINT unit targets so-called enemies of the state 200 00:10:01,234 --> 00:10:03,268 outside the country. 201 00:10:03,303 --> 00:10:07,539 But Palestinians in the occupied territories are also surveilled, 202 00:10:07,574 --> 00:10:09,374 even if they haven't been identified as a threat. 203 00:10:11,311 --> 00:10:12,877 In their letter, the reservists said 204 00:10:12,913 --> 00:10:15,680 they refused to take part in actions against Palestinians 205 00:10:15,715 --> 00:10:18,449 if they were called back to active duty. 206 00:10:18,485 --> 00:10:22,020 Israel's defense minister denounced them as criminals. 207 00:10:22,055 --> 00:10:24,556 Gilad, who asked we not use his last name 208 00:10:24,591 --> 00:10:26,825 and not reveal his face, signed the letter 209 00:10:26,860 --> 00:10:29,294 and served in the top secret Unit 8200. 210 00:10:53,286 --> 00:10:58,356 So were there any restrictions given to operators on 211 00:10:58,391 --> 00:11:00,258 who they could target and who they couldn't? 212 00:11:11,037 --> 00:11:15,273 Part of the letter talks about the fact that you would use some 213 00:11:15,308 --> 00:11:17,609 of this intelligence to turn Palestinians against each other. 214 00:11:51,311 --> 00:11:53,611 So let's say if you're a homosexual and you're involved 215 00:11:53,647 --> 00:11:57,348 with Hamas, and you don't want that to come out... 216 00:12:24,177 --> 00:12:25,710 Gilad regrets his role in the surveillance 217 00:12:25,745 --> 00:12:27,712 of Palestinian civilians. 218 00:12:27,747 --> 00:12:30,014 But what's it like to be on the other side of that surveillance? 219 00:12:35,188 --> 00:12:36,621 BEN: The Israeli military is well-known around the world 220 00:12:36,656 --> 00:12:39,223 for its cyber surveillance capabilities. 221 00:12:39,259 --> 00:12:41,459 Closer to home, Palestinians are all too aware 222 00:12:41,494 --> 00:12:43,461 of the country's power. 223 00:12:43,496 --> 00:12:45,830 Residents of the occupied territories 224 00:12:45,865 --> 00:12:47,999 may use local telecommunications companies 225 00:12:48,034 --> 00:12:50,835 like Paltel for their phones and internet, 226 00:12:50,870 --> 00:12:54,405 but the system relies on Israeli infrastructure. 227 00:12:54,441 --> 00:12:57,342 Israelis did not only occupy the land, 228 00:12:57,377 --> 00:13:00,044 they occupied the sky also and the air around us. 229 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,982 Safa Nasser Eldin is a former Minister of Telecommunications 230 00:13:04,017 --> 00:13:06,417 and IT in the Palestinian Authority, 231 00:13:06,453 --> 00:13:08,386 which governs the West Bank. 232 00:13:08,421 --> 00:13:10,922 I met her at a hotel in Jerusalem. 233 00:13:10,957 --> 00:13:14,892 How do you compare Palestinian Authority cyber security 234 00:13:14,928 --> 00:13:16,894 versus Israeli government? 235 00:13:16,930 --> 00:13:18,863 I don't think that we can compare it, 236 00:13:18,898 --> 00:13:21,566 because we are new to this field. 237 00:13:21,601 --> 00:13:24,902 We created the government network in 2010, 238 00:13:24,938 --> 00:13:26,704 and we took it from Paltel. 239 00:13:26,740 --> 00:13:29,674 So it was a network of... a Paltel network where 240 00:13:29,709 --> 00:13:31,676 parts of it is leased from Israel. 241 00:13:31,711 --> 00:13:35,947 So it was always like open to 242 00:13:35,982 --> 00:13:38,916 Israeli measures or any security. 243 00:13:38,952 --> 00:13:41,686 So does every average Palestinian just accept that 244 00:13:41,721 --> 00:13:46,290 every email, text message, can or could be intercepted 245 00:13:46,326 --> 00:13:48,059 and read by Israeli intelligence? 246 00:13:48,094 --> 00:13:51,963 They don't accept, but they know that it happens. 247 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,601 We are occupied, we cannot do anything about it. 248 00:13:58,571 --> 00:14:00,938 Since all communications systems in the West Bank 249 00:14:00,974 --> 00:14:03,641 route through Israel, it's hard for Palestinians 250 00:14:03,676 --> 00:14:06,044 to escape Israeli surveillance. 251 00:14:06,079 --> 00:14:09,213 But some people are trying to change that. 252 00:14:09,249 --> 00:14:12,717 I went to Ramallah to meet Hanna Kreitem and Samer Shawar. 253 00:14:12,752 --> 00:14:14,786 They're cofounders of a Palestinian hacker space 254 00:14:14,821 --> 00:14:17,088 called Vecbox. 255 00:14:17,123 --> 00:14:18,923 This is a bunker practically. 256 00:14:18,958 --> 00:14:20,892 Yes, a kind of bunker. 257 00:14:20,927 --> 00:14:22,960 Instead of a bunker it's a hackspace. 258 00:14:22,996 --> 00:14:27,031 What we did, as part of a project is establishing 259 00:14:27,067 --> 00:14:33,604 an intersection point to allow exchange of information 260 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:38,409 to stay local, without having to go through Israel 261 00:14:38,445 --> 00:14:41,279 and then through other operators. 262 00:14:41,314 --> 00:14:43,815 So you think that all of the internet essentially 263 00:14:43,850 --> 00:14:46,651 in the West Bank and Ramallah is being clearly creeped on? 264 00:14:46,686 --> 00:14:47,985 Yes. 265 00:14:48,021 --> 00:14:49,153 And why... why is that? 266 00:14:49,189 --> 00:14:50,588 Why do you think that? 267 00:14:50,623 --> 00:14:53,357 We have the PA and Israel both who would like to... 268 00:14:53,393 --> 00:14:55,059 to know what's going on. 269 00:14:55,095 --> 00:15:01,132 And Israel uses the excuse of security. 270 00:15:01,167 --> 00:15:04,502 So you also said that it's not just the Israelis spying on you, 271 00:15:04,537 --> 00:15:06,137 it's the PA. 272 00:15:06,172 --> 00:15:10,875 We... We have some concerns about that, 273 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:12,810 and we think that they do, yes. 274 00:15:14,714 --> 00:15:16,280 So it might not be just the Israelis 275 00:15:16,316 --> 00:15:18,349 who are monitoring Palestinians. 276 00:15:18,384 --> 00:15:20,318 Many believe the Palestinian Authority 277 00:15:20,353 --> 00:15:23,521 also uses Israeli technology to keep an eye on its population. 278 00:15:25,225 --> 00:15:27,725 But when it comes to cyber security, Israel's influence 279 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,995 extends well beyond the territory it occupies. 280 00:15:31,030 --> 00:15:33,698 In 2015, its cyber security exports 281 00:15:33,733 --> 00:15:37,001 totalled around $4 billion. 282 00:15:37,036 --> 00:15:38,669 But what does all this cyber success mean 283 00:15:38,705 --> 00:15:40,838 for Israel's economy? 284 00:15:40,874 --> 00:15:43,875 I'm in Tel Aviv for CyberTech. 285 00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:46,043 It's an annual conference serving as a showcase 286 00:15:46,079 --> 00:15:48,846 for Israel's cyber security companies. 287 00:15:48,882 --> 00:15:51,883 Israel's overall economy is one of the strongest in 288 00:15:51,918 --> 00:15:55,753 the Middle East, and the cyber security sector is booming. 289 00:15:55,788 --> 00:15:58,589 And some consider the IDF's Unit 8200 to be 290 00:15:58,625 --> 00:16:01,526 Israel's internal R&D hub. 291 00:16:01,561 --> 00:16:05,096 Consider this: its alumni are said to have founded 292 00:16:05,131 --> 00:16:07,932 more than a thousand companies. 293 00:16:07,967 --> 00:16:10,268 I stopped at a booth where a tech company called Cyberbit 294 00:16:10,303 --> 00:16:12,837 was selling its battle-tested products, 295 00:16:12,872 --> 00:16:15,540 which are used for both security and surveillance. 296 00:16:15,575 --> 00:16:17,508 (Chattering) 297 00:16:17,544 --> 00:16:19,377 And its key technology was developed by veterans 298 00:16:19,412 --> 00:16:22,079 of Unit 8200. 299 00:16:22,115 --> 00:16:24,048 Adi Dar is the CEO of Cyberbit. 300 00:16:25,818 --> 00:16:27,785 Who are you selling to internationally? 301 00:16:27,820 --> 00:16:31,355 We are selling in North America, we are selling in Asia, 302 00:16:31,391 --> 00:16:35,092 we are selling in Europe a lot, and of course in Israel. 303 00:16:35,128 --> 00:16:37,695 I can say that basically we have customers from 304 00:16:37,730 --> 00:16:40,431 all the different sectors: financial sector, utilities, 305 00:16:40,466 --> 00:16:43,534 health care, governments of course... 306 00:16:43,570 --> 00:16:45,136 So law enforcement as well? 307 00:16:45,171 --> 00:16:46,571 Yeah, of course, of course. 308 00:16:46,606 --> 00:16:50,741 Law enforcement is one significant part of what we do. 309 00:16:50,777 --> 00:16:53,711 Cyberbit sells a product called PSS, 310 00:16:53,746 --> 00:16:56,948 which stands for PC Surveillance System. 311 00:16:56,983 --> 00:16:59,617 It's a suite of tools that infects computer with malware 312 00:16:59,652 --> 00:17:01,919 in order to gather intelligence. 313 00:17:01,955 --> 00:17:04,255 Why don't you tell me about the PSS system. 314 00:17:04,290 --> 00:17:06,324 Basically it's the opposite of what we do in 315 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,392 the cyber security arena, okay? 316 00:17:08,428 --> 00:17:11,729 In the cyber security, we are trying to find those hackers, 317 00:17:11,764 --> 00:17:15,266 to find those Trojan Horses, and in the cyber intelligence part 318 00:17:15,301 --> 00:17:20,004 we are using Trojans in order to collect information. 319 00:17:20,039 --> 00:17:21,906 So offensive and defensive technologies. 320 00:17:23,176 --> 00:17:26,277 But CyberTech isn't just a platform for private companies. 321 00:17:26,312 --> 00:17:28,479 The conference is also a place where Israel 322 00:17:28,514 --> 00:17:31,616 and its Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, can show off 323 00:17:31,651 --> 00:17:34,919 the country's cyber strength to the rest of the world. 324 00:17:34,954 --> 00:17:38,656 One of the first conferences that we held here, 325 00:17:38,691 --> 00:17:40,925 I said that we intend to be 326 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,529 one of the five leading cyber powers in the world. 327 00:17:45,565 --> 00:17:49,233 And I think we've achieved that, but I don't think 328 00:17:49,269 --> 00:17:52,703 we should be #5 or #4, and I don't think we are. 329 00:17:57,043 --> 00:17:58,576 BEN: Be'er Sheva is at the northern edge 330 00:17:58,611 --> 00:18:00,278 of Israel's Negev desert. 331 00:18:00,313 --> 00:18:02,580 Once a quiet town, it's now a thriving city 332 00:18:02,615 --> 00:18:04,949 at the heart of Israel's cyber boom. 333 00:18:04,984 --> 00:18:07,251 The Prime Minister wants Israel to remain one of the world's 334 00:18:07,287 --> 00:18:10,488 cyber super powers, and that means bringing together 335 00:18:10,523 --> 00:18:13,124 the expertise of academics, the armed forces, 336 00:18:13,159 --> 00:18:15,126 and private business. 337 00:18:15,161 --> 00:18:17,662 That's something the government is investing in. 338 00:18:17,697 --> 00:18:20,164 Soon a new tech park will actually share office space 339 00:18:20,199 --> 00:18:22,533 with units of the Israeli military. 340 00:18:22,568 --> 00:18:24,635 This might be where the next Duqu is created. 341 00:18:26,005 --> 00:18:28,039 Yuval Elovici is the director of 342 00:18:28,074 --> 00:18:32,076 the Cyber Security Research Centre at Ben-Gurion University. 343 00:18:32,111 --> 00:18:37,315 And in this lab we have the people working on malware. 344 00:18:37,350 --> 00:18:38,783 So this is our malware lab. 345 00:18:38,818 --> 00:18:40,351 What kind of malware are they working on? 346 00:18:40,386 --> 00:18:43,020 Both on mobile and on PC. 347 00:18:43,056 --> 00:18:44,555 So why don't you show me 348 00:18:44,590 --> 00:18:47,224 how you can activate malware with a laser. 349 00:18:47,260 --> 00:18:52,063 It's our assumption in this type of attack that there is already 350 00:18:52,098 --> 00:18:55,633 a malware inside the organization, and the malware 351 00:18:55,668 --> 00:18:59,537 has an access to a scanner inside the organization. 352 00:18:59,572 --> 00:19:02,039 Now, if the attacker will communicate with the malware 353 00:19:02,075 --> 00:19:05,843 via the internet, it may be intercepted 354 00:19:05,878 --> 00:19:08,079 by various different mechanisms. 355 00:19:08,114 --> 00:19:10,715 So here we came up with a totally different concept, 356 00:19:10,750 --> 00:19:13,250 and the idea was to use a laser. 357 00:19:13,286 --> 00:19:17,988 So now here you can see we set up the software, 358 00:19:18,024 --> 00:19:20,424 and then we can just press one button. 359 00:19:20,460 --> 00:19:24,228 The scanner is scanning, receiving the message. 360 00:19:24,263 --> 00:19:27,431 And you know, even if there is not a line of sight, 361 00:19:27,467 --> 00:19:28,999 it's no problem. 362 00:19:29,035 --> 00:19:31,669 As you can see, it's very light to put 363 00:19:31,704 --> 00:19:33,771 all the attack platform on a drone. 364 00:19:33,806 --> 00:19:34,905 That's crazy. 365 00:19:34,941 --> 00:19:36,540 (Laughing) 366 00:19:36,576 --> 00:19:39,944 Israel's a small country, and yet it's connected to 367 00:19:39,979 --> 00:19:43,180 some of the most sophisticated malware ever. 368 00:19:43,216 --> 00:19:46,884 We are really, really threatened by other countries, 369 00:19:46,919 --> 00:19:50,688 and we need to find innovative ways how to defend ourselves. 370 00:19:50,723 --> 00:19:54,291 And you know, for me, sometimes I am very, very frustrated 371 00:19:54,327 --> 00:19:56,794 when I know that somebody is waking up in the morning, 372 00:19:56,829 --> 00:20:00,164 and his main goal in life is just to try to damage us. 373 00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:03,801 We are very, very lucky that cyber help us to be secured. 374 00:20:05,571 --> 00:20:07,605 Israel's success in cyber security comes out of 375 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,107 the collaboration between the school system, 376 00:20:10,143 --> 00:20:12,910 the military, and the private sector. 377 00:20:12,945 --> 00:20:17,081 The Israeli dream in old times was to be a general in the army. 378 00:20:17,116 --> 00:20:21,452 The dream today, the Israeli dream of every Jewish mother 379 00:20:21,487 --> 00:20:26,056 is for her son not to be a pilot, not to be a physician, 380 00:20:26,092 --> 00:20:30,728 but to go to 8200, serve for few years, then retire, 381 00:20:30,763 --> 00:20:33,998 open a start-up, and then sell it 382 00:20:34,033 --> 00:20:35,900 for hundreds of millions of dollars. 383 00:20:35,935 --> 00:20:37,768 But not all Israelis are comfortable with the role that 384 00:20:37,804 --> 00:20:40,304 Unit 8200 is playing in Israel's economy. 385 00:21:08,334 --> 00:21:10,434 And it's not just a domestic issue. 386 00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:13,637 Israel's reported surveillance of the Iranian nuclear talks 387 00:21:13,673 --> 00:21:16,273 was also a thorn in the side of American officials. 388 00:21:16,309 --> 00:21:19,777 And the irony is of course that the US helped the Israelis 389 00:21:19,812 --> 00:21:23,647 develop the capability of spying on the Iranians the way they do. 390 00:21:23,683 --> 00:21:27,384 So for some people within the US intelligence agency, this was 391 00:21:27,420 --> 00:21:32,223 not a happy moment when they realized or they concluded 392 00:21:32,258 --> 00:21:36,694 that the Israelis were using American capability to spy on 393 00:21:36,729 --> 00:21:39,663 American negotiations and diplomacy with the Iranians. 394 00:21:39,699 --> 00:21:44,168 And while they have this healthy respect for the Israelis, 395 00:21:44,203 --> 00:21:46,971 you know, for a foreign government to be doing that 396 00:21:47,006 --> 00:21:49,740 was for the Americans a bridge too far. 397 00:21:51,844 --> 00:21:54,745 The economic perks of Israel's cyber security expertise 398 00:21:54,780 --> 00:21:57,348 are obvious across the country. 399 00:21:57,383 --> 00:21:59,183 But those capabilities are designed to support 400 00:21:59,218 --> 00:22:02,086 a very unique security agenda. 401 00:22:02,121 --> 00:22:04,822 An agenda that can include spying on everyone from friends 402 00:22:04,857 --> 00:22:07,491 and allies to even innocent and vulnerable civilians. 403 00:22:09,729 --> 00:22:18,736 ♪ 39208

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