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He was not sacked. 6 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,759 He chose to leave. 7 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,239 There has been much speculation by Fulcher 8 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,774 and, consequently, the media, 9 00:00:43,775 --> 00:00:46,877 in relation to possible other victims of Christopher Halliwell. 10 00:00:46,878 --> 00:00:48,399 We at Wiltshire Police 11 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,698 made the ethical decision to maintain a position 12 00:00:50,699 --> 00:00:54,741 of not rising to these sensational and unsubstantiated claims 13 00:00:54,742 --> 00:00:57,923 because we believe this would lead to a media frenzy. 14 00:00:57,924 --> 00:01:01,399 The murder of Becky Godden has raised a number of issues, 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,768 including the Police And Criminal Evidence Act, 16 00:01:03,769 --> 00:01:05,759 which was introduced in 1984. 17 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,399 I believe that, if PACE is ethically followed 18 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,399 and delivered in line with the codes of practice, 19 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,399 the right outcomes can be achieved without evidence being inadmissible. 20 00:01:50,580 --> 00:01:53,792 OK, gentlemen, I am now going to take you through 21 00:01:53,793 --> 00:01:57,009 the basic stages of the intelligence cycle. 22 00:01:57,010 --> 00:01:59,399 Stage one will be planning and direction, 23 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,400 in which we evaluate opportunities and decide on strategy. 24 00:02:03,644 --> 00:02:05,644 Er, do you want to...? 25 00:02:15,164 --> 00:02:17,643 Thank you. So, that's planning and direction. 26 00:02:17,644 --> 00:02:18,776 Next, collection... 27 00:02:24,383 --> 00:02:26,383 Is this the same one? 28 00:02:26,408 --> 00:02:27,408 Yeah. 29 00:02:32,644 --> 00:02:34,644 Christ... Do you ever get used to that? 30 00:02:36,517 --> 00:02:38,382 OK. Er, as I was saying, 31 00:02:38,407 --> 00:02:39,908 stage two is collection. 32 00:02:41,159 --> 00:02:42,837 - When? - Yesterday. 33 00:02:42,838 --> 00:02:45,158 I've told you before, don't believe everything you read. 34 00:02:45,159 --> 00:02:48,432 - It's perfectly safe. Don't worry. - It was on BBC News. 35 00:02:48,457 --> 00:02:50,456 There was a suicide bomb in Benghazi 36 00:02:50,457 --> 00:02:52,668 only about half a mile from your barracks. 37 00:02:54,070 --> 00:02:56,070 It's news to me. 38 00:02:58,064 --> 00:02:59,744 How have you been? 39 00:03:00,955 --> 00:03:03,034 I'm really enjoying it. I'm... 40 00:03:03,035 --> 00:03:04,456 ...feeling pretty chilled, actually. 41 00:03:04,457 --> 00:03:06,456 And at least I'm wanted here. 42 00:03:06,457 --> 00:03:08,967 I know you couldn't care less, but Debs Peach told me 43 00:03:08,968 --> 00:03:11,456 Pat Geenty's retired for personal reasons 44 00:03:11,457 --> 00:03:13,279 and Mike Veale is now Chief Constable. 45 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,457 I just thought you could do with a laugh. 46 00:03:16,977 --> 00:03:18,180 You know what? You're right. 47 00:03:18,181 --> 00:03:20,788 I really... couldn't care less any more. 48 00:03:23,457 --> 00:03:25,548 Well, that's all my news. 49 00:03:26,428 --> 00:03:28,456 We love you very much and can't wait to see you. 50 00:03:28,457 --> 00:03:31,456 I've got to go because I'm meeting the girls at the cinema tonight. 51 00:03:31,457 --> 00:03:32,497 OK. 52 00:03:33,028 --> 00:03:34,457 All right... 53 00:03:34,770 --> 00:03:35,770 Give them my love. 54 00:03:36,988 --> 00:03:38,457 I love you. 55 00:03:39,108 --> 00:03:40,457 Please, be careful. 56 00:03:41,124 --> 00:03:42,124 Mm-hm. 57 00:03:50,949 --> 00:03:51,982 - Hello? - Debs... 58 00:03:51,983 --> 00:03:54,456 - What the fuck is going on? - I wondered when you'd find out. 59 00:03:54,457 --> 00:03:56,456 They've finally given Mike Veale the top job? 60 00:03:56,457 --> 00:03:58,817 And he's already been talking about you. 61 00:03:58,818 --> 00:04:00,456 Blaming you for the fact 62 00:04:00,457 --> 00:04:02,247 they still haven't charged Halliwell over Becky Godden. 63 00:04:02,248 --> 00:04:05,131 They've had years to come up with enough evidence. 64 00:04:05,132 --> 00:04:08,321 It's all wearing a bit thin, this, isn't it, still blaming me? 65 00:04:08,322 --> 00:04:09,456 Yeah. 66 00:04:09,457 --> 00:04:11,456 What happened with that stuff they dug up at the lake... 67 00:04:11,457 --> 00:04:13,797 - ...at Ramsbury? - 60 items of clothing. 68 00:04:13,798 --> 00:04:15,976 You'd think they'd have assigned a big team to it, wouldn't you? 69 00:04:15,977 --> 00:04:17,457 Oh, what...? 70 00:04:17,828 --> 00:04:19,457 They haven't done anything? 71 00:04:19,828 --> 00:04:22,456 Let's just say, apparently, there hasn't been much progress. 72 00:04:22,481 --> 00:04:24,481 They've only just put a small team on it. 73 00:04:24,948 --> 00:04:26,816 And it's being headed up by Sean Memory, 74 00:04:26,817 --> 00:04:29,456 who's now a Detective Superintendent, by the way. 75 00:04:29,457 --> 00:04:30,785 Do you know what, I think I'd rather be here 76 00:04:30,786 --> 00:04:32,225 with mad Libyans throwing bombs at me 77 00:04:32,226 --> 00:04:34,456 than anywhere near Gable fucking Cross. 78 00:04:34,457 --> 00:04:36,456 How long are you out there for? 79 00:04:36,457 --> 00:04:38,297 I've got another six months. 80 00:04:39,457 --> 00:04:44,456 And don't mention anything about bombs to Yvonne. 81 00:04:44,457 --> 00:04:45,457 Please. 82 00:04:52,157 --> 00:04:53,317 Karen? 83 00:04:55,457 --> 00:04:57,457 Come on, love, we'd better get going. 84 00:04:59,457 --> 00:05:01,457 Let's at least hear what he's got to say. 85 00:05:02,817 --> 00:05:04,817 I've written an open letter to Halliwell 86 00:05:04,842 --> 00:05:07,842 asking him to tell the truth about what he did to Becky. 87 00:05:08,230 --> 00:05:10,628 I'm not expecting a response, but I just... 88 00:05:11,457 --> 00:05:13,668 ...have to try to keep her in the public eye. 89 00:05:15,457 --> 00:05:18,049 Cos she doesn't matter as much as Sian, you see? 90 00:05:18,050 --> 00:05:20,801 Because Sian was just a normal girl who worked in an office. 91 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,296 A good girl. 92 00:05:22,554 --> 00:05:24,245 But Becky was a bad girl. 93 00:05:25,297 --> 00:05:27,283 A bad little girl who must have deserved it... 94 00:05:27,324 --> 00:05:30,457 - Karen - Well, I know that's what everyone thinks! 95 00:05:31,150 --> 00:05:32,150 Listen to me. 96 00:05:33,310 --> 00:05:37,115 I am convinced that, because of you, the Police and Crime Commissioner 97 00:05:37,140 --> 00:05:38,456 is pressuring Wiltshire Police 98 00:05:38,457 --> 00:05:41,457 into looking for new evidence to bring Halliwell to trial. 99 00:05:41,948 --> 00:05:44,297 So, whatever it is you're doing, it's working. 100 00:05:44,788 --> 00:05:46,588 - Oh, God... - There, you see? 101 00:05:47,628 --> 00:05:49,456 Oh, thank you very much. Thank you. 102 00:05:49,457 --> 00:05:50,988 I won't give up. 103 00:06:17,457 --> 00:06:19,175 - Hi, Kev. - Hi, Elaine. 104 00:06:19,176 --> 00:06:20,457 How are you? 105 00:06:31,457 --> 00:06:32,828 Are you OK, love? 106 00:06:34,268 --> 00:06:36,148 I'm just feeling it a bit at the moment. 107 00:06:38,457 --> 00:06:39,748 It's been hard. 108 00:06:40,457 --> 00:06:42,535 You get people in the pub 109 00:06:42,536 --> 00:06:44,456 who think they're trying to be nice, rather than spiteful, 110 00:06:44,457 --> 00:06:47,456 but they say, "Don't you wish you'd gone out with her that night?" 111 00:06:47,457 --> 00:06:49,456 I ask myself that all the time. 112 00:06:49,457 --> 00:06:51,628 You mustn't think about it like that, Kev. 113 00:06:52,457 --> 00:06:55,456 She died because of Christopher Halliwell, not anybody else. 114 00:06:55,457 --> 00:06:57,028 Certainly not you. 115 00:06:59,588 --> 00:07:01,158 Is that what you wanted to see me about? 116 00:07:01,159 --> 00:07:02,748 Because that's easy to deal with. 117 00:07:04,457 --> 00:07:06,348 No, it's not that. 118 00:07:06,977 --> 00:07:08,457 Well, what, then, love? 119 00:07:11,397 --> 00:07:13,037 I'm seeing somebody else. 120 00:07:19,457 --> 00:07:21,457 - Oh. - I'm sorry. 121 00:07:23,748 --> 00:07:26,456 Listen to me, you must never apologise 122 00:07:26,457 --> 00:07:28,457 for getting on with your life. 123 00:07:29,108 --> 00:07:30,456 I feel so bloody guilty. 124 00:07:30,457 --> 00:07:31,457 No! 125 00:07:32,788 --> 00:07:34,137 Sian's not here. 126 00:07:35,457 --> 00:07:38,457 What are you supposed to do, pine for her for the rest of your life? 127 00:07:41,457 --> 00:07:43,456 It's a comfort to me that she knew what it was 128 00:07:43,457 --> 00:07:48,028 to share a life with someone, that she was loved and cherished. 129 00:07:49,990 --> 00:07:51,990 But now she's gone and... 130 00:07:53,788 --> 00:07:56,457 ...I'm glad for you that you have someone else. 131 00:07:57,348 --> 00:07:58,816 I had to come here and tell you about Emma 132 00:07:58,817 --> 00:08:01,456 before you found out from anyone else. 133 00:08:01,457 --> 00:08:02,668 Is that her name, Emma? 134 00:08:06,748 --> 00:08:08,457 Why don't you bring her to the wedding? 135 00:08:09,828 --> 00:08:11,457 Are you sure? 136 00:08:12,948 --> 00:08:15,043 Please. It's important to me. 137 00:08:15,044 --> 00:08:16,457 Bring her, Kev. 138 00:08:17,613 --> 00:08:19,973 I can meet her before, if you like. Take the pressure off. 139 00:08:21,410 --> 00:08:22,410 Thank you. 140 00:08:32,300 --> 00:08:34,099 And this is everything you have? 141 00:08:34,100 --> 00:08:36,459 Well, we do have some other leads we're following up, 142 00:08:36,460 --> 00:08:37,412 but basically, yes, it is. 143 00:08:37,412 --> 00:08:40,775 I thought there were some items recovered from a pond 144 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,159 with Sian's boots. 145 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,799 Does any of that relate to Becky? 146 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,319 We did find some stuff, yeah. But a lot of it had rotted. 147 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,639 And we've not been able to match any of it yet to Becky's clothing 148 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,380 or descriptions of clothing of any missing persons, so... 149 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:56,639 I'd say we've got enough here to re-arrest and charge 150 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,799 - and get it to court. - Mm-hm. 151 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,742 But maybe not enough to convince a jury to convict. 152 00:09:01,743 --> 00:09:02,869 Right. 153 00:09:02,870 --> 00:09:05,604 It's all consistent with Halliwell having murdered Rebecca Godden. 154 00:09:05,605 --> 00:09:08,205 And this prostitute who links the two of them is helpful. 155 00:09:08,206 --> 00:09:10,800 But nothing actually says he did it. 156 00:09:12,379 --> 00:09:15,559 The elephant in the room is, of course, the confession. 157 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,575 Well, that was ruled inadmissible, so... 158 00:09:19,576 --> 00:09:20,799 Wrongly. In my opinion. 159 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,799 But with a different judge, a different set of circumstances, 160 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,240 there may be a way we can get it allowed this time round. 161 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,543 - How? - The key, ironically enough, 162 00:09:28,544 --> 00:09:31,174 is for Halliwell to come out and say, "I didn't do it." 163 00:09:31,175 --> 00:09:34,390 Remember, he's never had to actually state a defence for Rebecca Godden 164 00:09:34,391 --> 00:09:36,395 because the case was thrown out. 165 00:09:36,815 --> 00:09:40,226 He'll probably stay silent and just challenge us to make our case, 166 00:09:40,227 --> 00:09:41,494 as is his right. 167 00:09:41,495 --> 00:09:43,814 But if he now tries to claim he's never met her, 168 00:09:43,815 --> 00:09:46,320 or words to that effect, that's the game-changer. 169 00:09:46,321 --> 00:09:49,396 His confession directly contradicts this. So, it's unlikely, of course. 170 00:09:49,397 --> 00:09:52,393 Any lawyer worth his salt would advise him to keep his mouth shut. 171 00:09:52,394 --> 00:09:55,814 But if he did, that gives us the grounds to ask the judge 172 00:09:55,815 --> 00:09:57,815 to revisit the original ruling. 173 00:09:58,815 --> 00:10:02,014 If that happens, Steve Fulcher would have to give evidence. 174 00:10:02,015 --> 00:10:04,814 And his relationship with Wiltshire Police is not great, 175 00:10:04,815 --> 00:10:06,655 to say the least. 176 00:10:07,181 --> 00:10:09,221 It's by far the strongest evidence we have. 177 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,560 Mum, don't embarrass me, OK? 178 00:10:23,561 --> 00:10:24,880 I really like this one. 179 00:10:26,942 --> 00:10:28,880 - Hey! - Hey... 180 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:32,503 Mum... 181 00:10:32,504 --> 00:10:34,530 - This is Kev. - Hiya. 182 00:10:34,531 --> 00:10:36,079 - Hi, Kev. - Nice to meet you. 183 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,719 And you. 184 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:38,879 Do you want a cuppa? 185 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,560 Please, yeah. 186 00:10:48,566 --> 00:10:50,771 Elaine... This is Emma. 187 00:10:51,719 --> 00:10:53,331 - Pleased to meet you, love. - Thanks. 188 00:10:53,356 --> 00:10:55,356 Sorry it's in such difficult circumstances. 189 00:10:55,381 --> 00:10:57,421 Well, that's not your fault, is it? Come on, sit down. 190 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,171 - Coffee? - Yeah, please. 191 00:11:00,196 --> 00:11:01,516 Two coffees, please. 192 00:11:06,766 --> 00:11:07,766 So... 193 00:11:08,752 --> 00:11:10,752 How did you meet? Tell me everything. 194 00:11:11,306 --> 00:11:13,691 Erm, just round a friend's house. 195 00:11:14,406 --> 00:11:16,406 We got chatting and it sort of clicked. 196 00:11:16,431 --> 00:11:17,791 We went out a few times. 197 00:11:17,816 --> 00:11:20,456 I done her a chicken pasta and that sealed the deal. 198 00:11:21,051 --> 00:11:22,851 Kev's a really good cook. 199 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:25,399 You're not so bad. 200 00:11:25,424 --> 00:11:28,731 - She's brilliant, Elaine. - He's just being kind, honestly. 201 00:11:37,799 --> 00:11:39,799 So, how's the wedding stuff going, then, Elaine? 202 00:11:40,593 --> 00:11:43,131 Getting there. Actually, I'm just going to go to the loo. 203 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,879 Christopher John Halliwell, 204 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,879 I'm arresting you for the murder of Rebecca Godden, 205 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,079 contrary to common law. 206 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,670 You do not have to say anything, 207 00:12:41,671 --> 00:12:44,079 but it may harm your defence if you do not mention, 208 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,879 when questioned, something which you later rely on in court. 209 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,879 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 210 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,719 Do you understand? 211 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,348 Mm. 212 00:12:52,349 --> 00:12:55,879 OK, I'm going to take you now to Worcester Police Station, 213 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,399 where you will be interviewed in the presence of a solicitor. 214 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,880 I don't want a solicitor. 215 00:13:00,371 --> 00:13:01,880 Pardon? 216 00:13:02,506 --> 00:13:03,731 I don't want a solicitor. 217 00:13:05,026 --> 00:13:07,251 I want to see what you have to say first. 218 00:13:10,433 --> 00:13:11,593 Who's in charge of this case? 219 00:13:11,618 --> 00:13:14,618 That would be Detective Superintendent Sean Memory. 220 00:13:14,643 --> 00:13:16,291 If... 221 00:13:16,658 --> 00:13:17,880 ...I wrap this up in... 222 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,131 ...in the next few hours, 223 00:13:21,446 --> 00:13:23,126 any other charges against me... 224 00:13:24,326 --> 00:13:26,166 ...various things in the past... 225 00:13:26,191 --> 00:13:29,651 You're talking about car thefts, break-ins, bits and pieces? 226 00:13:33,166 --> 00:13:35,491 Some more... serious. 227 00:13:36,552 --> 00:13:41,232 Will clearing this up be enough to stop everything else? 228 00:13:41,257 --> 00:13:44,257 If Mr Memory is listening, the ball is in his court. 229 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,000 Get a print set up. If we can get a confession now, that's it... 230 00:13:50,025 --> 00:13:51,385 ...no need for Fulcher. 231 00:13:52,186 --> 00:13:55,826 Now, what I'm saying there, Chris, and I've signed it at the bottom... 232 00:13:57,140 --> 00:13:59,771 ...is that I lead the investigation into Becky Godden. 233 00:14:00,451 --> 00:14:03,231 I'm not aware of any other allegations against you. 234 00:14:03,232 --> 00:14:07,560 And I'm not investigating you for any other offence, apart from Becky. 235 00:14:08,139 --> 00:14:11,823 If I clear this up, I don't want you coming back every two years saying, 236 00:14:11,848 --> 00:14:14,848 "What about this? What about that?" 237 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,880 This interview is about one matter and one matter only. 238 00:14:20,566 --> 00:14:22,566 But at this point in time... 239 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,880 ...I'm not aware of any other allegations against you. 240 00:14:34,466 --> 00:14:35,466 OK. 241 00:14:39,272 --> 00:14:40,752 Erm... 242 00:14:41,486 --> 00:14:44,091 Actually, before I do anything else... 243 00:14:45,006 --> 00:14:47,646 ...I think I'd better get my solicitor to check it first. 244 00:14:49,299 --> 00:14:50,779 Is that OK? 245 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:54,920 No, that's fine. 246 00:15:01,306 --> 00:15:03,306 He's got no intention of clearing anything up. 247 00:15:03,331 --> 00:15:04,691 He's playing with us. 248 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,011 He just wanted to know what we've got. 249 00:15:16,366 --> 00:15:17,971 Ladies and gentlemen... 250 00:15:19,013 --> 00:15:20,493 ...my wife and I... 251 00:15:20,518 --> 00:15:22,518 Whoooo! 252 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,600 ...would like to thank you all sincerely for coming. 253 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,279 It really is... 254 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,599 It's wonderful to have you all with us on this special day. 255 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,025 And I'd like to thank the children, 256 00:15:35,026 --> 00:15:37,119 my three and Elaine's, 257 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,119 for being there for us... 258 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,600 ...through everything. 259 00:15:41,211 --> 00:15:42,731 And of course... 260 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,011 ...I must mention Sian. 261 00:15:46,251 --> 00:15:50,599 Now, we all remember those dark days when she went missing. 262 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,851 When there was nothing we could do but sit and hope. 263 00:15:56,051 --> 00:15:59,323 Yeah, we'd get little bits and pieces of information, 264 00:15:59,348 --> 00:16:02,348 but not the message that we really wanted to hear. 265 00:16:02,373 --> 00:16:04,731 That she was safe and well... 266 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,520 ...and coming home. 267 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,600 - What was all that about? - I asked him, Jackie. 268 00:16:26,426 --> 00:16:28,575 I said, "Please, don't talk about Sian too much." 269 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,599 But he had it all planned out in his head what he wanted to do. 270 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,600 He's planned everything today. He likes to be... 271 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,931 ...in control. He likes to organise everything. 272 00:16:37,793 --> 00:16:41,511 - He likes to take over, more like. - I care about him a lot. I do. 273 00:16:41,536 --> 00:16:43,536 He is a good person. 274 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,440 I don't want to be on my own, Jackie. I want to be married. 275 00:16:52,067 --> 00:16:53,267 I know. 276 00:16:58,312 --> 00:17:00,331 Halliwell has parted company with the lawyers 277 00:17:00,332 --> 00:17:02,599 who represented him at the first trial. 278 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,599 Really? Why would he do that? 279 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,599 Well, it would seem he has decided 280 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,600 he wants to represent himself in court. 281 00:17:09,891 --> 00:17:11,600 Bloody hell. 282 00:17:11,853 --> 00:17:13,013 Precisely. 283 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,799 So, this morning, Halliwell finally issued an outline of his defence, 284 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,599 which he's composed himself. 285 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,134 We've been asking for it for weeks. 286 00:17:20,135 --> 00:17:24,200 It says simply he has no knowledge of the death of Rebecca Godden, 287 00:17:24,201 --> 00:17:28,120 nor any information regarding details of how she died. 288 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,600 I think we have our game-changer. 289 00:17:33,851 --> 00:17:35,929 The confession now comes into play. 290 00:17:35,930 --> 00:17:38,691 We can ask the new judge to reconsider admitting it. 291 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,599 An email came through this morning from the CPS 292 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,599 saying that Wiltshire Police have discovered new evidence 293 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,599 against Halliwell for Becky Godden's murder 294 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,464 and that he's been charged as a result. 295 00:17:57,465 --> 00:17:59,599 But in the next breath they say 296 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,114 they want to try and reintroduce the confession evidence. 297 00:18:02,115 --> 00:18:03,228 You're joking? 298 00:18:03,253 --> 00:18:04,599 Well, do you want an even bigger laugh? 299 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,599 If they do manage to get it ruled admissible, 300 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,600 they want me to come back and give evidence at the trial. 301 00:18:09,860 --> 00:18:12,860 After all they've done to you, now they want you to help them out? 302 00:18:13,420 --> 00:18:16,420 The new evidence obviously can't be that strong, can it? 303 00:18:17,106 --> 00:18:19,106 It's not ever going to end, is it? 304 00:18:19,131 --> 00:18:20,131 For fuck's sake... 305 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,639 Oh, hello. Come in. 306 00:18:26,093 --> 00:18:27,215 - Hi, Karen. - Hello. 307 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,727 - Come in, sit down. - No, no, I can't stay for long. 308 00:18:29,752 --> 00:18:31,265 I, erm... 309 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,599 I just came to tell you that we are hopeful 310 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,599 of finally bringing charges against Halliwell over Becky. 311 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,227 He's been arrested. 312 00:18:38,228 --> 00:18:40,599 We're still working to strengthen the case against him. 313 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,938 But we think we can go to trial. 314 00:18:42,939 --> 00:18:46,340 - But how? - We've been working hard on the case 315 00:18:46,365 --> 00:18:49,539 and we've dug up plenty of new evidence. 316 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,599 - Can we know what it is? - I can't say too much now, 317 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,600 but the evidence is compelling. 318 00:18:54,931 --> 00:18:57,600 There's a little way to go yet, but we're optimistic. 319 00:18:57,851 --> 00:19:00,411 Oh, that is so fantastic! 320 00:19:00,881 --> 00:19:02,799 We'd almost given up hope, hadn't we? 321 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,599 I will, of course, be in touch if there's any more news, OK? 322 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,599 Thanks for coming to tell us, Sean. 323 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,799 Well, it's important we're all on the same page, right? 324 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,211 - Well, thanks a million, Sean. - Yeah, thanks. 325 00:19:19,439 --> 00:19:21,439 Oh, Charlie, I've... 326 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,599 I've got a knot in my tummy. 327 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,211 But why? We've just had the best bloody news you could hope for. 328 00:19:27,212 --> 00:19:29,038 But what if it doesn't work again? 329 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:31,439 What if another ruling goes against us or something? 330 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,599 Because, if we don't get him this time, we never will. 331 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,440 Always the gloomiest way of looking at it, that's you! 332 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,600 Yeah, well, I've had that smashed into me, haven't I, over the years? 333 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,960 There hasn't been much to be optimistic about, has there? 334 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,639 Elaine, look at where you are right now. 335 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,640 What are you doing? 336 00:19:50,931 --> 00:19:53,600 I mean, you've given up your job, you've even sold your car. 337 00:19:54,300 --> 00:19:55,660 Pete prefers to drive. 338 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,931 It's not right, Elaine. It's got to stop. 339 00:20:02,766 --> 00:20:04,292 It's just you're not you any more. 340 00:20:04,293 --> 00:20:06,600 You don't even behave like you any more. 341 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,600 To be honest, I feel like I've had the stuffing knocked out of me. 342 00:20:10,931 --> 00:20:13,599 I can't stand any sort of confrontation. 343 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,599 There's just so much tension in the house. 344 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,600 I feel like I've lost all my confidence. 345 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,640 Thanks. 346 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,600 Hi. 347 00:20:46,601 --> 00:20:47,800 Do you mind? 348 00:20:53,710 --> 00:20:56,799 I just think I'm being an idiot for coming out and helping them. 349 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,599 You're not helping them out, though, are you? 350 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,119 This isn't about them, is it? 351 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:02,599 Well, they deserve to be left on the beach, with the tide out, 352 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,731 looking like the fucking idiots they are. 353 00:21:05,651 --> 00:21:07,211 But Karen doesn't. 354 00:21:08,213 --> 00:21:09,213 But Karen doesn't. 355 00:21:17,670 --> 00:21:18,990 You're doing the right thing. 356 00:21:23,267 --> 00:21:25,067 Thank you. 357 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,287 Here. Cheers, Aiden. 358 00:21:53,288 --> 00:21:54,600 Here. 359 00:21:56,021 --> 00:21:57,454 Thanks, love. 360 00:21:57,454 --> 00:21:58,814 We're going to go. 361 00:22:00,334 --> 00:22:01,705 Don't you think it's better to wait and face him, 362 00:22:01,706 --> 00:22:03,174 rather than doing it like this? 363 00:22:03,174 --> 00:22:04,653 I told him I was moving out today. 364 00:22:04,654 --> 00:22:06,693 Yeah, but he didn't believe you, did he? 365 00:22:06,694 --> 00:22:09,654 Look, I couldn't honestly handle him trying to talk me out of it. 366 00:22:10,654 --> 00:22:13,375 - This way, it's much better. - It's not Pete's fault. 367 00:22:13,376 --> 00:22:16,654 - I should never have married him. - So, why did you? 368 00:22:17,654 --> 00:22:19,222 I just thought, after what's happened, 369 00:22:19,223 --> 00:22:21,654 I needed someone to take control of my life for me. 370 00:22:22,145 --> 00:22:24,105 It's the worst thing I could have done, all right? 371 00:22:26,654 --> 00:22:28,654 Oh, nice one. 372 00:22:37,174 --> 00:22:39,493 Mr Fulcher to see you. 373 00:22:39,494 --> 00:22:40,653 Thank you. 374 00:22:40,654 --> 00:22:42,653 - Sean. - Good to see you, Steve. 375 00:22:42,654 --> 00:22:43,654 And you. 376 00:22:44,694 --> 00:22:46,035 - Mr Fulcher. - Hi. 377 00:22:46,036 --> 00:22:47,654 Take a seat, please. 378 00:22:48,654 --> 00:22:50,654 I see you've got a suntan. 379 00:22:50,907 --> 00:22:53,545 I see you've got Detective Superintendent. 380 00:22:54,654 --> 00:22:56,423 Thanks for coming in today. We just wanted to give you 381 00:22:56,424 --> 00:22:57,853 some background on the trial. 382 00:22:57,854 --> 00:23:00,173 Right, so, there's definitely going to be one? 383 00:23:00,174 --> 00:23:03,654 Yes. And we are definitely going to need you to give evidence. 384 00:23:04,065 --> 00:23:05,654 Well, I'm all ears. 385 00:23:06,207 --> 00:23:08,653 Well, the pre-trial concluded this afternoon 386 00:23:08,654 --> 00:23:11,291 and the new judge, Mr Justice Griffith Williams, 387 00:23:11,292 --> 00:23:14,155 has ruled that the confession made to you by Halliwell 388 00:23:14,156 --> 00:23:16,653 will be admissible as evidence. 389 00:23:16,654 --> 00:23:19,653 He was quite scathing of Mrs Justice Cox, 390 00:23:19,654 --> 00:23:21,693 - who ruled against you last time. - Mm-hm. 391 00:23:21,694 --> 00:23:25,221 Halliwell tried to have it excluded again, based on her original ruling, 392 00:23:25,222 --> 00:23:28,829 but the new judge said that the confession was made voluntarily. 393 00:23:28,854 --> 00:23:31,010 In his view, there was no oppression. 394 00:23:31,011 --> 00:23:34,011 And to not allow it would offend good sense. 395 00:23:35,597 --> 00:23:38,545 You see, I thought I'd lost my career because other people, 396 00:23:38,546 --> 00:23:41,882 who should have known better, decided I'd done something terrible. 397 00:23:41,883 --> 00:23:44,010 But now it seems, apparently, I haven't. 398 00:23:44,011 --> 00:23:47,010 Look, I'd have understood if you'd told us to fuck off. 399 00:23:47,011 --> 00:23:49,011 Yeah, that was never going to happen. 400 00:23:52,751 --> 00:23:53,911 Hm... 401 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,289 So, how does your new Chief Constable 402 00:23:56,290 --> 00:23:58,720 feel about me being his star witness, then? 403 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,220 It's Elaine. 404 00:24:12,108 --> 00:24:13,780 Mrs Edwards, you've been waiting for four years. 405 00:24:13,781 --> 00:24:16,593 - How are you feeling about the trial? - Well, it's difficult. 406 00:24:16,594 --> 00:24:18,152 But we hope it's going to go our way. 407 00:24:18,153 --> 00:24:22,267 How do you feel about Halliwell representing himself, Mrs Edwards? 408 00:25:43,613 --> 00:25:47,293 When was the last time you saw your daughter, Mrs Edwards? 409 00:25:47,327 --> 00:25:49,253 December 2002. 410 00:25:50,987 --> 00:25:53,213 She would have been 21 the following April. 411 00:25:53,273 --> 00:25:55,414 And I always thought she'd turn up for her 21st birthday, 412 00:25:55,439 --> 00:25:56,439 but she never did. 413 00:25:58,307 --> 00:26:02,053 I got a card from her every Mother's Day, without fail. 414 00:26:03,460 --> 00:26:06,460 But from 2003 onwards, I never got one. 415 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,880 Becky was very petite. 416 00:26:11,220 --> 00:26:14,748 She was only 4'11" tall and she could wear children's clothing. 417 00:26:14,773 --> 00:26:19,018 You know, like, for 12 to 14-year-olds. 418 00:26:19,580 --> 00:26:21,420 She was just a child, really. 419 00:26:24,074 --> 00:26:28,034 Miss X, you have been granted anonymity today. 420 00:26:28,526 --> 00:26:31,526 I understand you have a history of drug abuse and prostitution, 421 00:26:31,551 --> 00:26:34,551 which is how you met Rebecca Godden. 422 00:26:34,576 --> 00:26:36,256 That's correct, yes. 423 00:26:36,281 --> 00:26:38,056 She was a friend of mine. 424 00:26:38,081 --> 00:26:40,401 But you have turned your life around since then 425 00:26:40,426 --> 00:26:43,733 and are now married with two children. 426 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,680 Yes. 427 00:26:45,727 --> 00:26:48,093 And my husband knows nothing about my past life. 428 00:26:48,118 --> 00:26:49,958 And yet you still came along today, 429 00:26:49,983 --> 00:26:53,453 even though your past could have been revealed to all and sundry. 430 00:26:54,267 --> 00:26:56,133 I thought it was important. 431 00:26:57,566 --> 00:26:58,566 I'm very grateful to you. 432 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,360 Please, stay where you are. 433 00:27:05,113 --> 00:27:06,593 Mr Halliwell... 434 00:27:07,554 --> 00:27:09,394 According to you... 435 00:27:12,154 --> 00:27:14,794 ...I was besotted with Rebecca Godden. 436 00:27:14,819 --> 00:27:15,819 Correct. 437 00:27:16,140 --> 00:27:18,053 Even though I've never met her before. 438 00:27:21,033 --> 00:27:24,673 Sometimes you even give her money to stop her going with other men. 439 00:27:25,267 --> 00:27:27,533 I remember, one night, you picked me up for sex, 440 00:27:27,558 --> 00:27:29,558 you knew she was my mate and you said, 441 00:27:29,583 --> 00:27:31,693 "Don't tell Becks about this." 442 00:27:32,980 --> 00:27:35,693 Right, so I'm supposed to have had sex with you, too, yeah? 443 00:27:36,333 --> 00:27:37,533 Yes. 444 00:27:38,167 --> 00:27:39,167 Twice. 445 00:27:42,511 --> 00:27:44,511 You see, I think there's a chance... 446 00:27:44,536 --> 00:27:46,536 ...that you could be mistaken. 447 00:27:46,561 --> 00:27:48,561 So, take a long, hard look at me 448 00:27:48,586 --> 00:27:50,586 and confirm that the person you're talking about is me. 449 00:27:50,611 --> 00:27:52,611 Because this is serious. 450 00:27:52,636 --> 00:27:54,316 Is this a joke? 451 00:27:54,341 --> 00:27:57,661 I am one hundred million percent sure it's you. 452 00:27:59,907 --> 00:28:02,333 If we've had sex together twice... 453 00:28:04,773 --> 00:28:06,773 ...what colour are my eyes? 454 00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:09,333 I don't know. 455 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,600 What colour were Becky's? 456 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,485 We compared soil found on the spade 457 00:28:22,510 --> 00:28:25,393 in the garage at Christopher Halliwell's home address 458 00:28:25,418 --> 00:28:27,418 with a sample of soil from the field 459 00:28:27,443 --> 00:28:29,718 where Rebecca Godden's body was found. 460 00:28:29,743 --> 00:28:31,988 Becky was outside the club 461 00:28:32,013 --> 00:28:34,493 having some sort of argument with this taxi driver. 462 00:28:34,518 --> 00:28:37,878 He was shouting at her. It went on for quite a while. 463 00:28:37,903 --> 00:28:40,543 I'm pretty sure I heard him call her "a fucking slag", 464 00:28:40,568 --> 00:28:42,568 or words like that. 465 00:28:42,593 --> 00:28:46,593 This row with the taxi driver, when was that? 466 00:28:46,618 --> 00:28:49,618 Er, just after New Year 2003. 467 00:28:49,643 --> 00:28:51,843 I'm pretty sure it was the 3rd, early in the morning. 468 00:28:51,868 --> 00:28:55,366 In the end, the driver somehow persuaded her to get in the back 469 00:28:55,391 --> 00:28:56,773 and they drove off. 470 00:28:57,734 --> 00:28:59,734 Did you get a look at the driver? 471 00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:01,759 Not clearly, no. 472 00:29:01,784 --> 00:29:04,784 And you never saw Rebecca again after that? 473 00:29:05,267 --> 00:29:07,183 No. Never. 474 00:29:07,208 --> 00:29:09,368 Nor indeed have we been able to find anybody else who has, 475 00:29:09,393 --> 00:29:10,773 after that night. 476 00:29:13,533 --> 00:29:14,533 Mr Halliwell... 477 00:29:15,267 --> 00:29:16,653 Do you have any questions? 478 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,973 Yeah, erm... 479 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,840 The taxi she drove off in, 480 00:29:22,865 --> 00:29:27,865 did it have a white illuminated sign on it saying, well, "Taxi"? 481 00:29:27,890 --> 00:29:28,890 Yeah, it did. 482 00:29:31,147 --> 00:29:32,133 Thank you. 483 00:29:32,426 --> 00:29:35,426 Because, at that time, my car did not have a light on the roof. 484 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,613 So, thank you. 485 00:29:45,613 --> 00:29:46,773 Thank you. 486 00:29:47,093 --> 00:29:49,253 The court has now broken until tomorrow. 487 00:29:49,278 --> 00:29:51,773 - If you could be back here for 9:00am? - Fine. 488 00:29:54,867 --> 00:29:57,601 I'd heard most of that evidence before. Hadn't you? 489 00:29:57,626 --> 00:29:58,793 Mm. 490 00:29:58,818 --> 00:30:02,298 We had all that back when Steve was around, as far as I can remember. 491 00:30:02,323 --> 00:30:04,323 So, what have they been doing for the last five years? 492 00:30:04,348 --> 00:30:07,348 All this new evidence! All they've got is Steve. 493 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,913 And he must be so nervous, after all this time, 494 00:30:09,938 --> 00:30:11,938 wondering what Halliwell is going to say. 495 00:30:26,287 --> 00:30:27,287 Tell us again, Mr Fulcher, 496 00:30:27,312 --> 00:30:30,312 what Christopher Halliwell told you that day about the second victim. 497 00:30:30,392 --> 00:30:32,392 He said he had taken a prostitute 498 00:30:32,417 --> 00:30:35,257 from the Manchester Road area of Swindon, 499 00:30:35,282 --> 00:30:37,442 had sex with her in the back of his taxi... 500 00:30:37,467 --> 00:30:39,467 ...and then strangled her. 501 00:30:39,492 --> 00:30:42,533 I said, "Was it similar to Sian?" He said, "Pretty much." 502 00:30:42,558 --> 00:30:44,558 I asked if there were any other victims, 503 00:30:44,583 --> 00:30:46,423 I said, "Is it just these two?" 504 00:30:46,448 --> 00:30:48,608 And he replied, "Isn't that enough?" 505 00:30:48,633 --> 00:30:50,993 OK, let's pause there. 506 00:30:51,018 --> 00:30:54,078 I'm sure Mr Halliwell has some questions for you. 507 00:31:05,107 --> 00:31:07,373 I couldn't care less... 508 00:31:07,513 --> 00:31:10,933 ...about not being cautioned by you. 509 00:31:11,262 --> 00:31:12,309 Sorry? 510 00:31:12,334 --> 00:31:15,744 It didn't bother me in the slightest that... 511 00:31:15,769 --> 00:31:17,769 ...my rights were breached. 512 00:31:17,794 --> 00:31:19,794 When I was arrested on 24th March, 513 00:31:19,819 --> 00:31:22,819 that was the first day of a life sentence. 514 00:31:22,844 --> 00:31:24,844 I knew that. 515 00:31:24,869 --> 00:31:27,869 So, after I took you to Sian's body, everything after that... 516 00:31:27,894 --> 00:31:30,098 ...well, that was about pure revenge. 517 00:31:32,220 --> 00:31:33,420 I don't quite follow you. 518 00:31:33,547 --> 00:31:36,707 Well, I didn't know about PACE and codes and all that, 519 00:31:36,732 --> 00:31:39,372 but I knew enough to know that, if I asked to speak to a solicitor, 520 00:31:39,397 --> 00:31:43,397 then everything else should stop until that's been given to me. 521 00:31:43,422 --> 00:31:44,422 I knew that much. 522 00:31:44,447 --> 00:31:47,447 I asked you six or seven times, 523 00:31:47,472 --> 00:31:50,472 it's all been recorded, and you kept refusing me. 524 00:31:51,267 --> 00:31:52,573 I knew that was wrong. 525 00:31:52,598 --> 00:31:55,598 I didn't care because I knew I could turn it to my advantage. 526 00:31:55,623 --> 00:31:58,013 So, all that whole story... 527 00:31:58,540 --> 00:32:00,540 ...about burying a girl in a field... 528 00:32:02,267 --> 00:32:03,267 ...it was just a pack of lies. 529 00:32:04,167 --> 00:32:06,047 Mr Halliwell, if you are alleging 530 00:32:06,072 --> 00:32:10,192 that revenge played a part in what happened that day, 531 00:32:10,217 --> 00:32:11,473 you must explain yourself. 532 00:32:11,498 --> 00:32:13,153 Yeah, in a minute, Your Honour. 533 00:32:13,178 --> 00:32:17,178 I had no idea if there was a body buried in that field in Eastleach. 534 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,760 How could I if I'd never met Rebecca Godden in my life? 535 00:32:21,785 --> 00:32:23,785 What happened was, at the end of 2001, 536 00:32:23,810 --> 00:32:25,810 I started driving these fellas around. 537 00:32:25,835 --> 00:32:26,835 Well... 538 00:32:28,267 --> 00:32:29,765 ...drug dealers, they were. 539 00:32:29,790 --> 00:32:32,790 But I never asked them any questions and they seemed to trust me. 540 00:32:32,815 --> 00:32:36,815 Now, one night, at the end of March time 2003, 541 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,840 they directed me out to this field in Eastleach. 542 00:32:39,865 --> 00:32:41,865 And they carried this big holdall 543 00:32:41,890 --> 00:32:43,753 out of the boot of my taxi into the field. 544 00:32:43,778 --> 00:32:45,778 Now, I drove off. I came back for them later. 545 00:32:45,803 --> 00:32:47,773 I never asked them what they were doing. 546 00:32:48,626 --> 00:32:50,666 A few months later, I was driving one of them around 547 00:32:50,691 --> 00:32:52,433 and he was drunk, right? 548 00:32:52,458 --> 00:32:54,973 And he tells me that they had buried... 549 00:32:54,998 --> 00:32:59,413 ...a prostitute in that field that night. 550 00:32:59,438 --> 00:33:01,438 Now, I thought he was messing 551 00:33:01,463 --> 00:33:03,463 because he said it like it was nothing. 552 00:33:03,488 --> 00:33:07,008 So, when I took you to that field in Eastleach, 553 00:33:07,033 --> 00:33:09,733 I had no idea if there was a body buried there. 554 00:33:10,726 --> 00:33:12,293 And I can prove it. 555 00:33:13,027 --> 00:33:16,507 How deep down did I say the body was buried? 556 00:33:16,532 --> 00:33:18,793 - You said five feet. - That's right. 557 00:33:18,818 --> 00:33:21,778 And how deep was it actually buried? 558 00:33:21,803 --> 00:33:23,803 Er, about eight inches, 559 00:33:23,828 --> 00:33:25,105 cos the bedrock was so close to the surface. 560 00:33:25,130 --> 00:33:26,153 Yeah. 561 00:33:26,178 --> 00:33:30,413 So, why would I say five feet if it was only eight inches? 562 00:33:30,438 --> 00:33:33,753 Well, you also couldn't be sure when you had murdered Becky. 563 00:33:33,778 --> 00:33:35,778 Cos I never did, cos I'd never met her. 564 00:33:35,803 --> 00:33:38,462 You said it was in 2003, 2004 or 2005. 565 00:33:38,487 --> 00:33:40,828 So what I surmised... 566 00:33:41,382 --> 00:33:44,382 ...and from you getting wrong the depth that she was buried, 567 00:33:44,407 --> 00:33:47,289 was that you had other victims that you had buried, 568 00:33:47,314 --> 00:33:49,748 victims that we don't yet know about, 569 00:33:49,773 --> 00:33:52,338 and that you became confused about which was which. 570 00:33:52,338 --> 00:33:54,410 That's an absolute pack of lies. And you know that. 571 00:33:54,435 --> 00:33:58,548 No, I know that you told me you had murdered a prostitute 572 00:33:58,573 --> 00:34:00,873 and buried her in that field. 573 00:34:00,898 --> 00:34:02,898 I believed... 574 00:34:02,923 --> 00:34:05,603 ...in that moment, that you were contrite 575 00:34:05,628 --> 00:34:07,463 and that you wanted to unburden yourself. 576 00:34:07,488 --> 00:34:09,776 - That's ridiculous. - You said you could take me 577 00:34:09,801 --> 00:34:11,718 to the exact spot in that field 578 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:12,906 where she was buried. 579 00:34:12,955 --> 00:34:14,733 In fact, you were a few feet out, 580 00:34:14,734 --> 00:34:17,167 but we later discovered the remains of Rebecca Godden 581 00:34:17,168 --> 00:34:20,461 in that field that you had directed us to. 582 00:34:20,462 --> 00:34:24,194 Well, I only said that because I wanted to get you in the shit. 583 00:34:24,195 --> 00:34:26,674 We need to know why, Mr Halliwell. 584 00:34:26,675 --> 00:34:28,979 Because he threatened my daughters. 585 00:34:28,980 --> 00:34:30,704 - I did what? - You threatened my daughters. 586 00:34:30,705 --> 00:34:32,763 And nobody threatens my kids! 587 00:34:32,764 --> 00:34:35,409 - Absolute rubbish. - That's why I took you to that field. 588 00:34:35,410 --> 00:34:37,730 Cos I knew for certain, if anything was found there, 589 00:34:37,731 --> 00:34:39,372 then any third-rate solicitor 590 00:34:39,373 --> 00:34:41,788 would make mincemeat of the fact I hadn't been cautioned 591 00:34:41,813 --> 00:34:43,813 and you'd be dropped right in it. 592 00:34:44,562 --> 00:34:47,562 But you haven't told us what this threat was. 593 00:34:49,868 --> 00:34:51,188 I'm not going to say. 594 00:34:51,213 --> 00:34:52,568 You're not going to say? 595 00:34:52,615 --> 00:34:53,848 No. 596 00:34:55,142 --> 00:34:59,648 Don't you think it's rather important to tell us what it was? 597 00:35:00,082 --> 00:35:01,578 Well, there's no point. 598 00:35:01,603 --> 00:35:04,328 I can't prove it. It's my word against his. 599 00:35:05,048 --> 00:35:06,208 I see. 600 00:35:06,233 --> 00:35:09,233 So, do you have any more questions for Mr Fulcher? 601 00:35:12,735 --> 00:35:13,735 Er... 602 00:35:15,675 --> 00:35:16,675 No. 603 00:35:17,701 --> 00:35:19,221 Very well. 604 00:35:19,246 --> 00:35:20,726 This might be a good time to take a break. 605 00:35:20,751 --> 00:35:22,951 Er, just one more thing. Erm... 606 00:35:22,976 --> 00:35:26,776 It was a pleasure ruining your career, you corrupt bastard. 607 00:35:48,675 --> 00:35:52,674 "I do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare and affirm 608 00:35:52,675 --> 00:35:54,674 "that the evidence I give shall be the truth, 609 00:35:54,675 --> 00:35:58,195 "the whole truth and nothing but the truth." 610 00:36:12,675 --> 00:36:14,675 You really loathe Mr Fulcher, don't you? 611 00:36:17,515 --> 00:36:18,675 Absolutely. 612 00:36:19,675 --> 00:36:22,355 You blame him for your confessions, don't you? 613 00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:26,674 I'm responsible for my own actions. I've faced up to what I did to Sian. 614 00:36:26,675 --> 00:36:27,675 No, but you see, you haven't. 615 00:36:27,676 --> 00:36:31,303 You've never given a proper account of what happened when Sian died, 616 00:36:31,304 --> 00:36:33,413 other than some nonsensical claim 617 00:36:33,414 --> 00:36:35,674 that she tried to grab your steering wheel 618 00:36:35,675 --> 00:36:36,675 and then you went to punch her 619 00:36:36,676 --> 00:36:38,675 without realising you had a knife in your hand. 620 00:36:40,675 --> 00:36:44,674 You abducted her for sexual purposes, just as you did Rebecca. 621 00:36:44,675 --> 00:36:46,674 Er, that's ludicrous. 622 00:36:46,675 --> 00:36:48,675 - It was an accident. - Was it? 623 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,034 Is that why her leggings and knickers were pulled down 624 00:36:52,035 --> 00:36:53,760 and her bra was missing? 625 00:36:54,128 --> 00:36:57,120 Listen, I came here to tell the truth. 626 00:36:57,875 --> 00:37:00,714 It doesn't matter to me if the jury believes me or not. 627 00:37:00,715 --> 00:37:03,674 Yes, you keep saying that. But that's not true, either. 628 00:37:03,675 --> 00:37:06,674 You received 25 years for the murder of Sian O'Callaghan. 629 00:37:06,675 --> 00:37:09,674 But there is at least a chance you could be released, 630 00:37:09,675 --> 00:37:11,674 albeit you'd be in your 70s. 631 00:37:11,675 --> 00:37:13,674 If you're found guilty of Rebecca's murder, 632 00:37:13,675 --> 00:37:14,675 then you will never be released. 633 00:37:14,676 --> 00:37:17,674 So, actually, there's rather a lot riding on this. 634 00:37:17,675 --> 00:37:19,674 Which is why you've constructed this fantasy account 635 00:37:19,675 --> 00:37:21,675 of how you led the police to her body. 636 00:37:23,195 --> 00:37:24,640 It's what happened. 637 00:37:25,394 --> 00:37:29,077 Yes. Except, for it to be true, you have to try and convince the jury 638 00:37:29,102 --> 00:37:31,419 you have never met Rebecca Godden. 639 00:37:32,675 --> 00:37:35,253 - I... I haven't. - Which is why you're so desperate 640 00:37:35,254 --> 00:37:37,674 to try and rebut the evidence of Miss X, 641 00:37:37,675 --> 00:37:40,714 whom you inconveniently had sex with on two occasions. 642 00:37:40,715 --> 00:37:43,675 I've never set eyes on her before and, to be honest... 643 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,514 - ...she's not my type. - Not your type? 644 00:37:47,515 --> 00:37:48,674 What is your type, then? 645 00:37:48,675 --> 00:37:51,675 Well, certainly not that thin. 646 00:37:53,355 --> 00:37:55,320 Is your type size eight? 647 00:37:56,675 --> 00:37:57,675 Size ten? 648 00:37:59,675 --> 00:38:02,674 Pretty, young women who are out and about on the streets of Swindon 649 00:38:02,675 --> 00:38:05,674 in the early hours of the morning, is that your type? 650 00:38:05,675 --> 00:38:09,355 About five feet, five feet two inches tall, 651 00:38:09,687 --> 00:38:11,007 on their own... 652 00:38:11,675 --> 00:38:13,035 ...vulnerable. 653 00:38:14,974 --> 00:38:16,974 Is that your type? 654 00:38:55,012 --> 00:38:57,012 _ 655 00:39:15,301 --> 00:39:17,301 Foreman of the jury, 656 00:39:17,326 --> 00:39:20,326 have you reached a verdict upon which you are all agreed? 657 00:39:21,344 --> 00:39:22,344 We have. 658 00:39:22,675 --> 00:39:25,674 Do you find the defendant, Christopher Halliwell, 659 00:39:25,675 --> 00:39:28,840 guilty or not guilty of murder? 660 00:39:29,675 --> 00:39:31,675 Guilty. 661 00:39:43,421 --> 00:39:45,421 Christopher John Halliwell... 662 00:39:46,287 --> 00:39:51,320 ...you have been convicted by a jury for the murder of Rebecca Godden. 663 00:39:51,875 --> 00:39:54,674 I observe that you lied to this jury 664 00:39:54,675 --> 00:39:58,035 about the circumstances of the murder of Rebecca Godden, 665 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,674 just as you lied to the jury 666 00:40:00,675 --> 00:40:03,880 about the circumstances of the murder of Sian O'Callaghan. 667 00:40:04,675 --> 00:40:08,874 I have concluded that the level of your offending is exceptionally high 668 00:40:08,875 --> 00:40:12,035 and direct there will be a whole life order. 669 00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:14,300 Take him down. 670 00:40:26,501 --> 00:40:28,861 - Where's Yvonne gone? - Oh, she's gone to find Steve. 671 00:40:48,035 --> 00:40:50,675 - Whole life? - Yeah. 672 00:40:55,675 --> 00:40:59,355 The judge said his account made no sense at all. He lied and lied. 673 00:41:01,394 --> 00:41:03,354 He was right, though. 674 00:41:04,868 --> 00:41:06,868 He did ruin me. 675 00:41:07,875 --> 00:41:10,343 I mean, it occurred to me, when I was facing him in court, 676 00:41:10,344 --> 00:41:11,623 that we cancelled each other out. 677 00:41:11,624 --> 00:41:13,269 That day, in order to bring him down, 678 00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:15,674 it was like I had to also lose everything. 679 00:41:15,675 --> 00:41:17,675 As if it was some sort of pact between us. 680 00:41:32,355 --> 00:41:36,319 Karen, we wondered if you could say something to the press. 681 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,674 I've drafted some thoughts for you. 682 00:41:38,675 --> 00:41:40,874 I wondered if you and John could make a joint statement, 683 00:41:40,875 --> 00:41:42,674 mother and father together. 684 00:41:42,675 --> 00:41:45,022 Right. Because I'm not giving up, not till the truth comes out. 685 00:41:45,023 --> 00:41:46,858 - What? - That wasn't a trial, 686 00:41:46,883 --> 00:41:47,871 that was a travesty. 687 00:41:47,872 --> 00:41:50,194 What about the drug dealers Chris was talking about? 688 00:41:50,195 --> 00:41:51,674 Has anybody been looking for them? 689 00:41:51,675 --> 00:41:54,675 Was Fulcher involved with them? We need answers. 690 00:41:55,542 --> 00:41:57,541 I'm not doing a joint statement with John. 691 00:41:57,675 --> 00:41:59,078 You're on your own with him. 692 00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:01,675 And I don't need your notes. I know what I'm going to say. 693 00:42:05,001 --> 00:42:07,001 Steven... 694 00:42:08,715 --> 00:42:11,675 Can you take my bag? 695 00:42:18,675 --> 00:42:21,674 I want to place on record my thanks for the team 696 00:42:21,675 --> 00:42:24,398 led by Detective Superintendent Sean Memory, 697 00:42:24,399 --> 00:42:27,675 who have brought this case to a positive conclusion today. 698 00:42:28,012 --> 00:42:31,874 We have waited over five years for this moment. 699 00:42:31,875 --> 00:42:35,674 This has been an extremely painful journey, 700 00:42:35,675 --> 00:42:39,674 but at last we have finally received justice 701 00:42:39,675 --> 00:42:42,073 for our beautiful little girl Becky. 702 00:42:42,074 --> 00:42:45,324 Sean and his team were left with virtually nothing to go on 703 00:42:45,325 --> 00:42:47,674 after the evidence, initially gathered by Steve Fulcher, 704 00:42:47,675 --> 00:42:49,932 had to be thrown out virtually in its entirety. 705 00:42:49,957 --> 00:42:55,355 I want to thank, from the bottom of my heart, Steve Fulcher. 706 00:42:56,354 --> 00:43:01,354 I will always be indebted to him for bringing my little girl home. 707 00:43:01,379 --> 00:43:03,852 They worked tirelessly with the Crown Prosecution Service 708 00:43:03,877 --> 00:43:06,404 to uncover new evidence and bring this case to justice. 709 00:43:06,429 --> 00:43:08,469 They are to be congratulated. 710 00:43:08,494 --> 00:43:13,096 But Steve should never have suffered the terrible consequences, 711 00:43:13,121 --> 00:43:18,000 the loss of his reputation, the loss of his career... 712 00:43:18,675 --> 00:43:21,675 ...just for doing the right thing. 713 00:43:22,675 --> 00:43:23,675 Thank you. 714 00:43:29,875 --> 00:43:32,200 Go on. Go and talk to her. 715 00:43:37,675 --> 00:43:38,675 I can't. 716 00:43:40,675 --> 00:43:42,675 She's all right, you know? 717 00:43:43,454 --> 00:43:44,680 Like you, really. 718 00:43:51,814 --> 00:43:53,814 I just can't. It's too close. 719 00:44:05,195 --> 00:44:08,257 Steve Fulcher, this has been a landmark case in many ways. 720 00:44:08,258 --> 00:44:11,344 And I know it's been a difficult journey for you, personally. 721 00:44:11,345 --> 00:44:14,674 But how do you respond to those who say we cannot have the police 722 00:44:14,675 --> 00:44:17,235 riding roughshod over the rights of a suspect 723 00:44:17,236 --> 00:44:19,674 - as if it were the 1970s again? - I agree. 724 00:44:19,675 --> 00:44:23,080 I agree. But what if next time it's your daughter who's gone missing? 725 00:44:23,675 --> 00:44:27,674 And if another police officer finds himself in the position I was in, 726 00:44:27,675 --> 00:44:29,205 what does he do? 727 00:44:29,206 --> 00:44:30,674 Now, after what's happened to me, 728 00:44:30,675 --> 00:44:33,248 he would be perfectly entitled to give up on her, 729 00:44:33,249 --> 00:44:35,416 to take his suspect back to the police station 730 00:44:35,417 --> 00:44:38,033 and let a lawyer advise him to go, "No comment." 731 00:44:38,034 --> 00:44:43,440 Now, if she was still alive, your daughter would then inevitably die. 732 00:44:44,521 --> 00:44:48,521 And the police's official position on this seems to be, 733 00:44:48,546 --> 00:44:49,920 "So be it. 734 00:44:50,441 --> 00:44:53,441 "We're very sorry, but she'll just have to die, then." 735 00:44:54,675 --> 00:44:56,675 Is that what we want? 57631

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