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-Good morning , sir.
-Morning .
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BBc Broadcasting House.
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Yes, that's correct.
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-Good morning , sir.
-Good morning .
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Yes, of course. Yes.
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-... main focus to be. AIl right?
-Yes, sir.
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Right! Everyone.
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Shall we make a start?
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As you can see from the agenda,
I have taken the Iiberty--
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I think you'Il find calling any meeting
of the BBC Board of Governors to order
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is my job as chair.
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If you insist, Dukey.
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I do, John .
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First item on the agenda.
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It gives me great pleasure
to confirm that the Royal Charter,
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as granted by Her Majesty the Queen ,
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has been renewed for a further ten years.
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That is splendid .
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Marvelous.
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The fruits of months,
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indeed years, of careful negotiation
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over which I presided .
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And whose outcome, I should say,
I played no small part in influencing .
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But will it be me who gets the credit?
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Oh , no. That will go to
our illustrious director generaI
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in his Armani suits.
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And his slip-on shoes.
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Speaking a Ianguage
that doesn't come from England
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but from some management
training course in America.
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There's no need to do this.
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A man so blinkered ,
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so obsessed with the threat posed
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by these new satellite channels
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that he fails to see
the glaringly obvious,
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that it is our very difference
from these channels
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upon which the survival
of the BBC depends.
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Not our similarity.
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It is our refusal to depart
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from the Reithian
public broadcasting ideals,
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to inform, to educate,
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and , only then , to entertain
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that makes us who we are.
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And who are we?
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We are
the British Broadcasting Corporation .
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The BBC.
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We're Auntie.
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A nickname
I have always cherished . Why?
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Because Auntie always knows best.
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But does John Birt cherish the nickname?
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Oh , no.
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To him, Auntie is an insult
because it's not modern .
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It's not progressive.
It's not avant-garde.
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For heaven's sake, John .
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What's not to Iove about a favorite aunt?
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I just thought you're young ,
you might understand .
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But there is new trouble.
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I might understand it
if it had been made within my Iifetime.
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You're right.
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It's been with us for years.
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Might even be a rental .
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Elephant seals.
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-Why don't you just buy a big new one?
-I don't want a big new one.
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But it would come with
the right sockets and jacks.
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You could get satellite TV as well .
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With hundreds of channels
from all over the world .
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What? And abandon the BBC?
I can't do that.
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You wouldn't be
abandoning the BBC, Granny.
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Switching to satellite would be seen
as a betrayal of the national broadcaster
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by the head of state.
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It would be treason .
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Like me becoming a Catholic.
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Just imagine this place
with a huge, horrid dish on the roof.
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Like a spaceship.
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They could hide that.
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You could just close your ears,
bury your head in the sand ,
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and pretend
you don't know what's going on .
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Yes, I think I can do that.
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I'Il see if we could get you
that specialist racing channel .
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You mean , Iike at the betting shops?
With night races from America?
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I'd never do any work.
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You're a racehorse owner.
It's part of your work.
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Our king's egg...
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...is still safe.
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Oh , yes. You're right.
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It does seem to have had better days.
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Even the televisions
are metaphors in this place.
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Am I a mess?
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Let me see. You're fine.
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Covered in Iipstick.
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Bye.
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-Morning .
-Morning, Martin .
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Morning, all . How are we?
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-You got a second?
-Yeah .
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CIose the door.
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Spoke to the princess again .
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She's agreed to give us free rein on
the questions. Free rein on the final cut.
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Her only stipulation was she be allowed
to speak to the Queen before it airs.
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-When does she wanna record?
-This Sunday, Kensington Palace.
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She thinks the place will be deserted .
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Of course, it's November 5th .
Guy Fawkes Night.
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The significance of that date
was not lost on me either.
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I'm gonna have to
run this past a few people.
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Why?
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I gave her my word
that no one would know but us.
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Come on , Martin .
An interview like this is gonna have to go
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to the Director of News
and Current Affairs, at Ieast.
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Probably the DG.
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How's my big hero?
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L'm all right.
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How's school?
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Good.
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You made any new friends?
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Freddie's been over from MJA.
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Oh, that's nice.
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There are a couple of guys in my house
who I think could become new friends.
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Good.
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Well , Mummy might have made
a new friend too.
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Okay.
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Right now just a "friend-friend ,"
but I hope he'Il become a special friend ,
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and I wanted you to be the first to know.
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Do you have to tell me these things?
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I thought you'd be happy for me.
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I'd just prefer it
if you didn't talk to me about this stuff.
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I never know what to say.
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It's embarrassing .
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It's hard enough
with you being in the news all the time.
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You're only making things harder.
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-Ready?
-I have to go.
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Evensong .
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Right.
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Bye.
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Happy birthday to you
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-Happy birthday to you
-You shouldn't have.
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Happy birthday, dear Sue...
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Look at that.
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Happy birthday to you
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Thank you . Cheers.
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Cheers.
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And a happy birthday to you .
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It doesn't look as though
I'Il make Cheltenham this year.
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Really?
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Someone very inconsiderate arranged
for the French president to visit.
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If you can't get there in person , ma'am,
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you can always
catch the highlights on ITV.
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Channel 4.
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Channel 4, that's it.
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I thought Cheltenham was on the BBC.
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It was for 40 years.
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Then Channel 4 paid more than five times
what the BBC was paying .
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-We couldn't afford to hold onto it.
-But it's Cheltenham. The Gold Cup.
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-Can't you do anything about it?
-A whisper in hubby's ear?
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Or perform
some magic in the bedroom .
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Oh , my goodness.
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The Oueen
was not her normal self today.
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She was surrounded
by some of her dearest friends, yet...
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she seemed a Iittle flat.
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Poor woman .
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Those children have a lot to answer for.
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Each day brings fresh horrors
in the newspapers.
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I was thinking , couldn't the BBC
do something to cheer her up?
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Remind everyone how hard she works.
How Iucky we are to have her.
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-It's her seventieth birthday coming up.
-That's a nice idea.
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One of your specials.
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To show our appreciation .
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I'Il talk to the director general .
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For my sins.
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Thank you .
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God , all the top brass.
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It'II be fine.
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What do we think her agenda is?
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Well , I think she has multiple agendas.
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She feels misunderstood .
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She feels angry.
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She wants to be vindicated .
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You think she'Il be critical
of the monarchy?
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Critical of Charles, certainly.
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Explain something to me.
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She could go
anywhere in the world with this.
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How did you get her to do it with you?
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It's not with me though , is it?
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It's the BBC.
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She's doing it with us
because she feels safe,
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understood , and protected .
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He's being modest.
It is Martin too.
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When he--
When he puts his mind to something ,
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he can be very persuasive.
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AII right. Give me a day or two.
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-I need to think about it.
-About what?
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The ethics of giving a national platform
to someone with such a personal agenda.
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There'll be plenty of people
that violently object,
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not Ieast our own chairman .
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Hussey? What about him?
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Well , apart from having outdated notions
of the role the BBC plays
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not just in national Iife
but in the British soul ,
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he happens to be the husband of
the Queen's most senior Iady-in-waiting .
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He'd rather Iose his Ieft Ieg
than have this go out.
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Now, come on , you did know that?
He lost his right one in the war.
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Amputated in a prisoner of war camp.
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I wanna make absolutely sure
this goes no further...
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John?
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Be back in a moment.
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Duke Hussey's office called .
He wants to see you .
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Did they say why?
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They just said it was urgent
and if you could make time this affernoon?
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Good afternoon , sir.
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Good afternoon .
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As you know, I've never sought
to interfere in editorial matters
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or influence program makers in any way.
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As DG, that's your sphere.
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But as I reach the end of my tenure,
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I wonder if you might allow me
one exception .
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And for you .
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I'd Iike us
to do something for the Queen .
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Some sort of tribute.
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About how hard she works
and how bloody Iucky we are to have her.
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And that's why you've asked me here today?
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Yes.
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Just to ask the question .
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Is that very cheeky of me?
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Because whatever one may think
of the royal family,
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she has been remarkable
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and doesn't, in my view, get the credit
or the gratitude she deserves.
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And isn't that one of the many things
that the BBC's for?
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To kiss the ring?
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If you like.
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I can see
it's an unfashionable Iine to take,
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but for better or worse,
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I believe it is part of
the British character to have a monarchy.
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Take that away, what are you Ieft with?
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An egalitarian , modern republic?
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But not Britain .
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A new Britain .
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A different Britain .
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Not Great Britain .
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It's the same with the BBC.
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Take away the BBC,
and what are you left with?
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A country, but not Britain .
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I n that way, the two institutions,
Crown and BBC, are inherently intertwined .
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Reflected , incidentally, in the fact
that we exist thanks to a royal charter.
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You see the monarchy as part of
the architecture of this country.
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I do.
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But more and more people
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have grown to see it simply
as part of the furniture.
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Something they've grown up with
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but not something
that can't be rearranged .
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Thrown out, if need be, or replaced .
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And the same goes for the BBC.
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Poll after poll show
that people are crying out for change
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from the post-war era
into something much more--
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To a crass, commercial , satellite era,
controlled by Rupert Murdoch
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with limitless choice
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and a thousand different channels,
all offering rubbish?
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Look. I know my role is not to interfere.
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I just thought I've been chairman now
for almost ten years, my full term,
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and I've never asked a thing .
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I know.
You've been quiet as a mouse, Dukey.
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And I do this, not for myself,
258
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but for a country it has been my privilege
to serve my whole life.
259
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Oh , come on , John .
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A nice, one-off program
in the grand BBC style
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that brings us all together
to celebrate one of our greatest assets
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and say, "Thank you , ma'am ."
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Steve Hewlett.
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Steve, it's John.
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That bonfire night thing we discussed ,
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Iet's go for it.
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H i .
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My brother called me.
He's a Iittle concerned .
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-What about?
-You .
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Frankly.
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He said he made notes
in your first meeting,
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which didn't tally
with the notes he took in the second .
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I n the first,
you said M I5 were watching me.
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And in the second , you said M I6.
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Actually, I think it could be both .
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He said there were other inconsistencies.
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He regrets introducing us and wants me
to have nothing more to do with you .
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Okay.
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Two things.
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This is quite normal , and to be honest,
I was expecting a last-minute wobble.
281
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I think you chose the date
for the interview, November 5th ,
282
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bonfire night, deliberately.
283
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Only because I knew
everyone would be busy.
284
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Not symbolically.
285
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The 1 3 members
of the Gunpowder PIot in 1 605
286
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also almost pulled out at the last minute,
287
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and it took the ringleader
to encourage them to stick with it.
288
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Well , maybe he shouldn't have.
289
00:20:21,303 --> 00:20:23,889
They were unsuccessful ,
hung , drawn , and quartered .
290
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Difference is, we will be successful .
I promise.
291
00:20:34,358 --> 00:20:35,818
What was the second thing?
292
00:20:35,901 --> 00:20:36,902
What?
293
00:20:38,487 --> 00:20:39,613
You said two things.
294
00:20:44,994 --> 00:20:47,079
I think they might've got to your brother.
295
00:20:47,163 --> 00:20:48,038
No.
296
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These are serious people.
297
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That kind of change of heart
is just too irrational .
298
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Too random.
299
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Which is why I think
the sooner we get this done, the better.
300
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Today is the 5th of November,
301
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which is a significant day
in the British calendar.
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Guy Fawkes Night.
303
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What do we know about Guy Fawkes himself?
304
00:21:29,079 --> 00:21:30,247
He was a rebel .
305
00:21:31,165 --> 00:21:32,541
A Iittle more than just a rebel .
306
00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:33,959
A terrorist?
307
00:21:34,627 --> 00:21:39,423
I n a manner of speaking .
H is-- His cause was certainly political .
308
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:41,926
A traitor?
309
00:21:42,551 --> 00:21:43,636
A traitor.
310
00:21:43,719 --> 00:21:47,681
That's right.
Maybe England's most famous traitor.
311
00:21:49,642 --> 00:21:53,646
And what do we mean
when we call someone a traitor?
312
00:21:55,272 --> 00:22:00,528
A traitor commits the crime of treason ,
313
00:22:00,611 --> 00:22:04,365
which derives from
the French "trahir," to betray.
314
00:22:05,324 --> 00:22:07,201
There are different kinds of treason .
315
00:22:07,284 --> 00:22:10,955
Petty treason , which could simply be
a wife killing her husband ,
316
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or a servant killing their master.
317
00:22:14,708 --> 00:22:21,131
But Guy Fawkes and his coconspirators
committed high treason .
318
00:22:22,716 --> 00:22:23,759
Which means?
319
00:22:24,718 --> 00:22:27,179
Trying to kill the King?
320
00:22:27,972 --> 00:22:29,098
That's right.
321
00:22:29,181 --> 00:22:31,475
Trying to kill the King .
322
00:22:32,017 --> 00:22:34,937
Guy Fawkes was working with 1 2 other men .
323
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The ringleader was a man
by the name of Robert Catesby,
324
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and together, they devised
the Gunpowder PIot of 1 605,
325
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as it has come to be known .
326
00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:51,412
A plan by disaffected Catholics
327
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to blow up the Houses of Parliament
328
00:22:54,874 --> 00:22:58,460
on a day they knew the King , the Queen ,
329
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,381
and the Prince of Wales, would be present.
330
00:23:02,923 --> 00:23:06,635
The state opening of Parliament
on November 5th .
331
00:23:09,388 --> 00:23:12,391
I n the days before,
under the cover of darkness,
332
00:23:12,474 --> 00:23:16,770
they entered a cellar
directly beneath the House of Lords.
333
00:23:17,771 --> 00:23:22,276
They filled it
with 36 barrels of gunpowder.
334
00:23:23,485 --> 00:23:25,321
Now, Fawkes's job that night
335
00:23:26,071 --> 00:23:29,408
was to light the all-important fuse.
336
00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:35,915
H is goal was to slaughter
the entire Protestant establishment
337
00:23:35,998 --> 00:23:37,458
in one fell swoop.
338
00:23:38,417 --> 00:23:42,755
An act that
would change the country forever.
339
00:23:52,306 --> 00:23:53,390
Good evening .
340
00:23:56,936 --> 00:23:58,312
Enjoy the fireworks!
341
00:23:58,395 --> 00:23:59,396
Good night.
342
00:24:25,464 --> 00:24:28,342
We're here to deliver
the new hi-fi audio equipment.
343
00:24:37,851 --> 00:24:39,561
-She's expecting you .
-Thank you .
344
00:25:46,253 --> 00:25:47,588
Here we go.
345
00:25:49,506 --> 00:25:50,549
AII right.
346
00:26:32,716 --> 00:26:35,344
Could you clip this on , please,
Your Royal Highness?
347
00:26:36,220 --> 00:26:37,262
Thank you .
348
00:26:56,782 --> 00:26:58,909
Okay, Martin , when you're ready.
349
00:27:01,995 --> 00:27:04,957
We can stop anytime.
The tapes run for 32 minutes,
350
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,419
so we'Il be breaking to change them over
every half hour or so, anyway.
351
00:27:16,552 --> 00:27:17,427
AII good?
352
00:27:18,971 --> 00:27:19,888
Okay.
353
00:27:25,477 --> 00:27:26,562
Ready?
354
00:27:33,902 --> 00:27:35,028
Your Royal Highness.
355
00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:48,584
-Go and say hello.
-Hello.
356
00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:49,877
They're Iighting it now.
357
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,336
-Mummy.
-There you are.
358
00:27:53,338 --> 00:27:54,882
I'm obviously devastated .
359
00:27:56,216 --> 00:27:58,719
Because I don't do things
the way they do...
360
00:28:12,232 --> 00:28:14,443
...on my own from Monaco.
361
00:28:28,498 --> 00:28:30,042
Oh , that was marvelous.
362
00:28:33,629 --> 00:28:34,880
H i , Gran .
363
00:28:35,923 --> 00:28:37,007
Right...
364
00:28:40,719 --> 00:28:42,137
When I was in Scotland ...
365
00:30:10,976 --> 00:30:13,437
-Thought that might be the taxi .
-Morning .
366
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,479
-Morning .
-Morning .
367
00:30:18,775 --> 00:30:20,736
-Good morning .
-Checking in?
368
00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:23,780
No. I'm here to meet a friend .
369
00:30:23,864 --> 00:30:27,117
I believe he's staying
in the Duchess of York Suite.
370
00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:29,286
And the name?
371
00:30:30,162 --> 00:30:31,288
Catesby.
372
00:30:31,371 --> 00:30:33,540
Right, I'II Iet him know you're here.
373
00:30:37,961 --> 00:30:39,713
H i , your guest has arrived .
374
00:30:40,380 --> 00:30:41,465
Can I send him up?
375
00:30:44,009 --> 00:30:45,260
Thank you .
376
00:30:46,053 --> 00:30:48,555
So it's just through to the bar,
right up the stairs,
377
00:30:48,638 --> 00:30:51,767
down the long corridor,
and it's the fourth door on the right.
378
00:31:35,727 --> 00:31:38,397
When l separated
from the Prince of Wales,
379
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,898
l was seen as...
380
00:31:53,453 --> 00:31:55,789
Well , I expected it to be dynamite.
381
00:31:56,415 --> 00:31:59,459
Sensational , John .
Biggest coup of our careers.
382
00:31:59,543 --> 00:32:01,962
But what I've just seen
could end our careers too,
383
00:32:02,045 --> 00:32:04,214
not to mention what it might do to her.
384
00:32:04,297 --> 00:32:06,508
...marriage had on Prince William?
385
00:32:10,262 --> 00:32:12,764
I guarantee she will talk
to someone if not us.
386
00:32:12,848 --> 00:32:15,767
Ask yourself how you would feel if
387
00:32:15,851 --> 00:32:20,021
this went out on CBS or ABC.
388
00:32:20,105 --> 00:32:21,648
Or ITV. Or Channel 4.
389
00:32:21,731 --> 00:32:25,652
Still , we'Il be giving a platform
to a very hurt, very unstable woman .
390
00:32:26,736 --> 00:32:30,574
Who clearly wants to inflict
significant damage on the monarchy.
391
00:32:32,367 --> 00:32:34,494
I n the end ,
it's going to be your call , John .
392
00:32:37,247 --> 00:32:38,331
Go back.
393
00:32:40,041 --> 00:32:41,501
This part here.
394
00:32:42,502 --> 00:32:45,338
Do you believe
Prince Charles will be King?
395
00:32:47,507 --> 00:32:51,052
Diana's insisted on telling the Queen
personally, is that right?
396
00:32:51,136 --> 00:32:52,179
Tomorrow.
397
00:32:52,804 --> 00:32:56,141
If you're going to kill this,
Iet us know before the end of play today.
398
00:32:56,766 --> 00:32:57,976
So we can stop her.
399
00:32:58,768 --> 00:33:01,438
It's very demanding, suffocating.
400
00:33:01,521 --> 00:33:02,397
BIoody hell !
401
00:33:06,651 --> 00:33:09,488
GIobal airwaves. J ust gonna have to wait.
402
00:33:09,571 --> 00:33:11,823
He can get to the back of the line.
403
00:33:17,662 --> 00:33:19,498
Let me know. Thank you .
404
00:33:30,884 --> 00:33:34,262
Look me in the eyes
and tell me I'm not going to regret this.
405
00:33:36,431 --> 00:33:37,474
You won't.
406
00:33:40,977 --> 00:33:43,146
They said
we have to keep it out of sight.
407
00:33:43,813 --> 00:33:45,815
-N ice view from up here.
-Yeah .
408
00:33:45,899 --> 00:33:49,778
Satellite dishes have now been
installed in all the royal households.
409
00:33:50,904 --> 00:33:52,447
As Iong as they're out of sight.
410
00:33:52,531 --> 00:33:56,326
PIus, the specialist racing channel
you wanted , like in the betting shops.
411
00:33:56,409 --> 00:33:59,079
-Did you hear that, Mummy?
- How thrilling .
412
00:33:59,162 --> 00:34:01,581
Look, simple instructions
on all the remotes.
413
00:34:01,665 --> 00:34:02,832
May I see?
414
00:34:02,916 --> 00:34:04,918
Kentucky Derby and Belmont winner...
415
00:34:05,001 --> 00:34:07,712
Printed in a nice, Iarge,
idiot-proof font.
416
00:34:07,796 --> 00:34:09,381
Well , what about the soaps?
417
00:34:09,464 --> 00:34:11,424
Not that we ever watch those.
418
00:34:12,467 --> 00:34:14,594
Well , 23 is U K Gold .
419
00:34:14,678 --> 00:34:15,554
Right.
420
00:34:15,637 --> 00:34:20,058
They have repeats of Dallas,
Knots Landing, and The Bill.
421
00:34:21,810 --> 00:34:24,229
PIease tell me you have
no idea what I'm talking about.
422
00:34:24,312 --> 00:34:25,313
Not a clue.
423
00:34:26,606 --> 00:34:28,275
Hold it. That's my favorite.
424
00:34:28,358 --> 00:34:30,026
No, I don't know what that is.
425
00:34:32,904 --> 00:34:35,407
Would you put the racing back on?
I seem to have got Iost.
426
00:34:39,536 --> 00:34:42,497
It's so sad to see her struggle
to understand a medium
427
00:34:42,581 --> 00:34:45,250
with which she is inextricably Iinked .
428
00:34:47,002 --> 00:34:50,463
1 936, the year she became
heir to the throne,
429
00:34:50,547 --> 00:34:55,969
the first BBC program
was broadcast from Alexandra Palace.
430
00:34:56,052 --> 00:34:59,014
Of course,
barely anyone had televisions then .
431
00:34:59,097 --> 00:35:02,475
Now that all changed with her coronation .
432
00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:06,271
People bought sets in their millions
to watch it.
433
00:35:06,354 --> 00:35:08,356
Just one channel , BBC,
434
00:35:08,898 --> 00:35:11,818
a few hours of, you know,
educational broadcasting
435
00:35:11,901 --> 00:35:14,863
with "God Save the Queen"
at the end of every day.
436
00:35:14,946 --> 00:35:16,114
Quite right.
437
00:35:17,032 --> 00:35:18,783
Then commercial television arrived .
438
00:35:18,867 --> 00:35:19,993
-Do you remember?
-I do.
439
00:35:20,076 --> 00:35:21,077
And color.
440
00:35:21,161 --> 00:35:22,912
Oh , that was a shock.
441
00:35:23,913 --> 00:35:26,291
Then there were three channels,
then a fourth .
442
00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:29,461
-Now, a hundred .
-Ma'am .
443
00:35:29,544 --> 00:35:32,797
We've just had a call
from the Princess of Wales.
444
00:35:32,881 --> 00:35:35,175
She's asked to see you
on an urgent matter.
445
00:35:37,093 --> 00:35:37,969
When?
446
00:35:38,511 --> 00:35:40,138
She was hoping for this evening .
447
00:35:42,307 --> 00:35:43,433
I should be going .
448
00:35:44,601 --> 00:35:45,477
Homework.
449
00:35:49,147 --> 00:35:50,774
-Granny.
-William .
450
00:35:52,651 --> 00:35:54,611
-Great-granny--
-No, I'm coming too.
451
00:35:55,111 --> 00:35:57,113
Oh , thank you , dear.
452
00:36:02,661 --> 00:36:03,662
William .
453
00:36:03,745 --> 00:36:06,081
So what essays have you got to write?
454
00:36:22,764 --> 00:36:23,807
Thank you .
455
00:36:29,187 --> 00:36:30,563
Your Royal Highness.
456
00:36:53,253 --> 00:36:55,171
Mama, thank you for seeing me.
457
00:36:57,882 --> 00:37:00,301
There's something I wanted you to hear
from me first,
458
00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:01,761
and I expect as a consequence
459
00:37:01,845 --> 00:37:04,472
you're going to think even Iess of me
than you already do.
460
00:37:05,098 --> 00:37:06,850
Why don't I be the judge of that?
461
00:37:09,561 --> 00:37:11,229
I've given an interview.
462
00:37:13,064 --> 00:37:14,524
What kind of interview?
463
00:37:15,150 --> 00:37:19,195
A full , rather frank interview to the BBC.
464
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,449
Which will go out on Monday the 20th .
465
00:37:23,324 --> 00:37:24,242
Why?
466
00:37:27,620 --> 00:37:29,789
I felt the need to clear a few things up.
467
00:37:31,124 --> 00:37:33,334
-About my marriage.
-Oh , honestly.
468
00:37:34,169 --> 00:37:35,545
It's like a broken record .
469
00:37:35,628 --> 00:37:38,590
About the fact that
I've so often been shut out,
470
00:37:40,049 --> 00:37:41,634
and Ieft to cope on my own .
471
00:37:43,052 --> 00:37:46,473
And that I have suffered
from a Iack of sympathy
472
00:37:47,432 --> 00:37:50,018
and feeling and compassion .
473
00:37:50,727 --> 00:37:53,980
Haven't we heard all this before?
A thousand times.
474
00:37:54,063 --> 00:37:57,609
Haven't we read it in newspaper articles
a thousand times?
475
00:37:57,692 --> 00:38:01,696
Does it not occur to you that if you feel
the need to clear a few things up,
476
00:38:01,780 --> 00:38:05,200
a public forum might not be
the best place to do it?
477
00:38:05,742 --> 00:38:08,995
That such matters would best be discussed
in private with the people involved?
478
00:38:09,078 --> 00:38:10,413
I've tried that.
479
00:38:10,497 --> 00:38:11,456
When?
480
00:38:13,124 --> 00:38:14,834
On numerous occasions over the years.
481
00:38:14,918 --> 00:38:17,879
I've asked to see you
so that we might talk face-to-face.
482
00:38:17,962 --> 00:38:21,341
And on every occasion ,
you refused or were unavailable.
483
00:38:24,344 --> 00:38:27,347
I accept it's not easy
navigating this family.
484
00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:31,810
And I can understand why
you might think we're all a bit remote.
485
00:38:32,644 --> 00:38:34,938
But there is another word for "remote."
486
00:38:35,688 --> 00:38:36,898
Busy.
487
00:38:37,482 --> 00:38:40,902
We are all busy people with busy diaries,
488
00:38:40,985 --> 00:38:43,738
rarely under the same roof
for two nights at a time.
489
00:38:43,822 --> 00:38:48,201
And none of us,
not one senior member of the royal family,
490
00:38:48,284 --> 00:38:50,829
has a spare ten minutes
to think about themselves,
491
00:38:50,912 --> 00:38:54,916
Iet alone you or how we might
best make your Iife miserable.
492
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:58,002
On the contrary.
It might surprise you to Iearn
493
00:38:58,086 --> 00:39:01,339
we all spend a great deal of time
doing the opposite.
494
00:39:01,965 --> 00:39:05,760
'Cause when people,
armies of people say to me,
495
00:39:05,844 --> 00:39:09,264
"What has that girl done now?
Who does she think she is?"
496
00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:10,974
What do you imagine I say?
497
00:39:11,558 --> 00:39:13,560
"Oh , Lord , yes, Diana's awful ."
498
00:39:13,643 --> 00:39:16,604
"A nightmare. What a mistake that was."
499
00:39:16,688 --> 00:39:18,439
Not once.
500
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,568
Not a single time.
501
00:39:22,819 --> 00:39:26,489
You're wife to my eldest son ,
mother to my grandsons,
502
00:39:26,573 --> 00:39:29,367
and a valued senior member of this family,
503
00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:32,954
so I defend you each and every time.
504
00:39:33,037 --> 00:39:37,417
Loyally. Emphatically. To the hilt.
505
00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:46,134
The enemy you imagine I am ,
506
00:39:46,217 --> 00:39:50,597
the hostility you imagine we all feeI
507
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,516
is a figment of your imagination .
508
00:39:57,604 --> 00:39:58,563
Is it?
509
00:40:00,106 --> 00:40:01,149
Yes.
510
00:40:03,192 --> 00:40:07,322
AII any of us want, Diana,
511
00:40:08,781 --> 00:40:10,241
is for you
512
00:40:11,576 --> 00:40:12,660
to be happy.
513
00:40:14,746 --> 00:40:17,540
And one day, to be our next Queen .
514
00:40:25,256 --> 00:40:28,301
I suppose it's already too Iate
to stop this?
515
00:40:31,554 --> 00:40:32,472
Yes.
516
00:40:34,557 --> 00:40:35,892
Have you told William?
517
00:40:38,311 --> 00:40:39,604
Not yet, no.
518
00:40:40,813 --> 00:40:44,275
Poor child . As if he hasn't got enough
to worry about already.
519
00:40:44,359 --> 00:40:47,153
-He's stronger than you think.
-I didn't say he was weak.
520
00:40:47,236 --> 00:40:50,323
I said he's a child and has enough
to worry about already.
521
00:40:55,203 --> 00:40:56,829
I'Il tell him not to watch it.
522
00:40:56,913 --> 00:41:00,041
I hope you don't mind
if Philip and I don't watch either.
523
00:41:00,625 --> 00:41:03,753
Monday the 20th
happens to be our wedding anniversary.
524
00:41:05,505 --> 00:41:07,298
Forty-eight years.
525
00:41:11,844 --> 00:41:13,137
Congratulations.
526
00:41:15,098 --> 00:41:16,349
I'm happy for you .
527
00:41:18,851 --> 00:41:21,020
It's what I would have wished for myself.
528
00:41:52,176 --> 00:41:55,096
And he unscrewed it.
And there it was!
529
00:41:55,179 --> 00:41:56,514
I mean , nothing .
530
00:42:01,060 --> 00:42:02,145
Dukey?
531
00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:05,523
-John !
-Sorry to disturb.
532
00:42:06,149 --> 00:42:07,108
Not at all .
533
00:42:07,692 --> 00:42:08,776
Excuse me. Come.
534
00:42:11,904 --> 00:42:12,822
Sit.
535
00:42:18,703 --> 00:42:24,333
I'm here to let you know that the BBC
has indeed made a special program
536
00:42:24,417 --> 00:42:28,046
about the monarchy,
which we will announce on Tuesday.
537
00:42:28,129 --> 00:42:29,213
Tuesday the 1 4th?
538
00:42:29,297 --> 00:42:30,173
Yes.
539
00:42:30,256 --> 00:42:32,175
The Prince of Wales's birthday.
540
00:42:32,759 --> 00:42:37,346
If I may say, that is uncharacteristically
sentimental of you , John .
541
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:40,892
It was the date she insisted
the announcement be made.
542
00:42:40,975 --> 00:42:44,562
The Queen .
Touching she should want to do that.
543
00:42:44,645 --> 00:42:47,899
I've always said , as a mother,
she adores him, really.
544
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,526
It's not the Queen .
545
00:42:54,155 --> 00:42:56,240
Which "she" are you talking about?
546
00:42:58,409 --> 00:43:01,162
It's the Queen's Golden Jubilee
in seven years' time.
547
00:43:01,245 --> 00:43:06,793
The BBC will make countless programs,
justifiably, celebrating Her Majesty then .
548
00:43:07,668 --> 00:43:11,923
I n the meantime, we thought
an in-depth Panorama interview
549
00:43:12,006 --> 00:43:14,342
with the Princess of Wales
might be more relevant.
550
00:43:14,425 --> 00:43:15,510
What?
551
00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:18,638
Why would the BBC
give her the time of day,
552
00:43:18,721 --> 00:43:21,307
Iet alone an interview?
The girl's a loose cannon .
553
00:43:21,390 --> 00:43:23,810
We've not always seen eye to eye, Dukey,
554
00:43:23,893 --> 00:43:25,978
but as chairman and director general ,
555
00:43:26,062 --> 00:43:29,023
we always agreed
that we'd go to any Iengths
556
00:43:29,107 --> 00:43:31,567
to do what we felt was best
for the organization .
557
00:43:31,651 --> 00:43:32,693
This will kill it.
558
00:43:32,777 --> 00:43:36,823
It's my view that this may come
to define the BBC.
559
00:43:36,906 --> 00:43:38,074
Kill it!
560
00:43:38,157 --> 00:43:39,909
This will destroy us!
561
00:43:39,992 --> 00:43:43,329
Look, I simply wanted to Iet you know
the news directly.
562
00:43:43,955 --> 00:43:47,208
You'Il find yourself
on the wrong side of history, John .
563
00:43:47,291 --> 00:43:48,459
Thanks for seeing me.
564
00:43:49,502 --> 00:43:51,462
The wrong side of history!
565
00:43:58,094 --> 00:44:02,849
A very warm welcome
to the 07th Royal Variety Performance.
566
00:44:02,932 --> 00:44:07,145
A charity event to support
the Entertainment Artists Benevolent Fund.
567
00:44:07,228 --> 00:44:09,355
Coming to you from London 's West End
568
00:44:09,438 --> 00:44:12,316
on the occasion of Her Majesty
the Oueen 's 48th wedding anniversary.
569
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,442
Your Majesty.
570
00:44:13,526 --> 00:44:15,987
Many congratulations to the Oueen
571
00:44:16,070 --> 00:44:18,281
and His Royal Highness,
the Duke of Edinburgh.
572
00:44:18,364 --> 00:44:21,242
The stars have taken their places
behind the curtain
573
00:44:21,325 --> 00:44:24,036
for what promises to be a memorable night.
574
00:45:32,688 --> 00:45:37,276
Your Royal Highness,
do you genuinely believe...
575
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,819
Darling , you're missing it.
576
00:45:38,903 --> 00:45:42,156
...that members of the royal household
have been out to get you?
577
00:45:44,784 --> 00:45:49,997
When l separated from the Prince of Wales,
l was seen as "problem number one."
578
00:45:51,082 --> 00:45:52,541
The first of my kind.
579
00:45:58,923 --> 00:46:02,927
When your first son was born,
that must have been a very happy moment.
580
00:46:03,010 --> 00:46:05,012
When William was born,
581
00:46:05,096 --> 00:46:07,306
l became unwell
582
00:46:07,932 --> 00:46:11,102
with post-natal depression.
583
00:46:12,019 --> 00:46:15,481
Ijust wanted to stay in bed all day.
584
00:46:16,524 --> 00:46:18,526
I was in a very dark place.
585
00:46:20,945 --> 00:46:22,571
Did you reach out for help ?
586
00:46:23,281 --> 00:46:27,451
I suppose ifyou're the first
person in a family to ever feel low,
587
00:46:28,369 --> 00:46:31,872
then it's pretty hard
to get the support that you need, so...
588
00:46:33,541 --> 00:46:35,084
you suffer alone.
589
00:46:59,567 --> 00:47:02,820
What impact did the illness
have on your marriage ?
590
00:47:03,696 --> 00:47:08,659
Well, it gave people a marvelous new label
to pin on me. "Diana 's crazy...
591
00:47:09,702 --> 00:47:11,912
and should be sent to a home."
592
00:47:15,458 --> 00:47:19,337
But what better way
to break down a personality
593
00:47:19,420 --> 00:47:20,963
than by isolating it.
594
00:47:26,385 --> 00:47:30,681
Your husband is said
to have rekindled his relationship
595
00:47:30,765 --> 00:47:34,018
with Mrs. Camilla Parker Bowles
around 1 980.
596
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,646
Did this contribute
to the breakdown of your marriage ?
597
00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:41,859
Well, there were three of us
in this marriage, so it was a bit crowded.
598
00:47:44,570 --> 00:47:45,988
Was I devastated?
599
00:47:46,072 --> 00:47:47,239
Oh , God .
600
00:47:47,865 --> 00:47:48,866
Yes.
601
00:47:50,368 --> 00:47:52,661
Did I feel like a failure? Yeah .
602
00:47:57,583 --> 00:48:01,504
Reflecting back,
you say that the royal family has
603
00:48:01,587 --> 00:48:04,382
effectively given up on you.
Why do you think that is?
604
00:48:04,924 --> 00:48:07,385
Because l don 't do things the way they do.
605
00:48:07,468 --> 00:48:12,014
Because l want to connect
with people emotionally,
606
00:48:12,098 --> 00:48:15,768
and comfort them in distress.
607
00:48:16,435 --> 00:48:19,480
And this isn't something
the royal family provides?
608
00:48:19,563 --> 00:48:22,358
You have to remember,
l didn 'tjust marry into a family.
609
00:48:22,441 --> 00:48:24,193
I married into a system.
610
00:48:24,276 --> 00:48:28,614
But l won't go quietly.
l'll battle till the end.
611
00:48:33,953 --> 00:48:37,415
What impact do you think
the breakdown of your marriage had
612
00:48:37,498 --> 00:48:38,582
on Prince William ?
613
00:48:42,294 --> 00:48:45,423
Well, he 's a boy
that's a-- a serious thinker,
614
00:48:45,506 --> 00:48:48,801
so it's hard to know the impactjust yet.
615
00:48:49,802 --> 00:48:51,762
We 'll have to wait a few years to see.
616
00:48:51,846 --> 00:48:53,139
Are you all right?
617
00:48:53,889 --> 00:48:56,058
Yes. I'm-- I'm fine.
618
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,564
Do you believe.
Prince Charles will be King?
619
00:49:02,606 --> 00:49:04,984
Well, who knows
what fate will bring?
620
00:49:05,067 --> 00:49:08,779
It's a very demanding
and suffocating role,
621
00:49:08,863 --> 00:49:12,074
and Charles was
always conflicted about it.
622
00:49:12,158 --> 00:49:13,242
Oh , God .
623
00:49:13,325 --> 00:49:15,411
-Because l know him so well. . .
-Darling--
624
00:49:15,494 --> 00:49:17,955
-. . . I would think that the top job. . .
-BIoody hell !
625
00:49:18,622 --> 00:49:21,459
...would put big limits on him,
626
00:49:21,542 --> 00:49:24,962
and l'm not sure how
he would cope with that.
627
00:49:25,045 --> 00:49:27,131
What the hell is she doing?!
628
00:49:30,509 --> 00:49:32,219
Some might view this
629
00:49:32,303 --> 00:49:36,849
as you taking revenge
on the Prince of Wales.
630
00:49:36,932 --> 00:49:40,352
But I don't speak with bitterness or anger
631
00:49:41,103 --> 00:49:42,897
but sorrow
632
00:49:43,898 --> 00:49:46,400
because our marriage has failed .
633
00:49:52,198 --> 00:49:54,950
Do you think you will ever be Oueen?
634
00:49:59,371 --> 00:50:03,209
L'd like to be a queen ofpeople's hearts,
in people 's hearts.
635
00:50:04,293 --> 00:50:09,256
But l don't envisage myself
ever being Oueen of this country. No.
636
00:50:09,965 --> 00:50:12,134
I don 't think many people
will be calling for that.
637
00:50:12,218 --> 00:50:14,428
When l say people,
l mean those at the top,
638
00:50:14,512 --> 00:50:18,849
on my husband's side,
because they've decided that l'm an issue.
639
00:50:19,683 --> 00:50:20,559
Full stop.
640
00:50:21,352 --> 00:50:22,520
A Iiability.
641
00:50:24,355 --> 00:50:27,107
But someone's gotta go
out onto the streets,
642
00:50:27,191 --> 00:50:29,193
give people the Iove that they need .
643
00:50:31,904 --> 00:50:33,656
Your Royal Highness, thank you .
644
00:50:49,922 --> 00:50:52,299
Princess Diana hit the airwaves
in England tonight,
645
00:50:52,383 --> 00:50:55,344
talking about her Iife,
her broken marriage, and her future.
646
00:51:01,183 --> 00:51:04,144
The astonishing interview
has left the palace shocked and concerned .
647
00:51:04,228 --> 00:51:07,898
They were so stunned , they didn't issue
any statement Iast night,
648
00:51:07,982 --> 00:51:10,442
but I don't think
they can hide behind that.
649
00:51:10,526 --> 00:51:12,945
I really think
they're gonna have to say something .
650
00:51:13,028 --> 00:51:17,116
The accusations against the royal family,
in particular Prince Charles,
651
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:18,325
were astronomical .
652
00:51:37,094 --> 00:51:41,557
A great many honest,
decent people work at the BBC.
653
00:51:42,182 --> 00:51:46,061
And on their behalf and mine,
l'm so sorry.
654
00:51:46,854 --> 00:51:50,482
Diana had the decency
to warn me in advance,
655
00:51:51,191 --> 00:51:53,694
but no one was prepared for this.
656
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,946
I blame myself entirely.
657
00:51:56,947 --> 00:51:58,699
And will , of course,
hand in my resignation .
658
00:51:58,782 --> 00:52:00,367
There's no need , Dukey.
659
00:52:00,909 --> 00:52:02,536
There's every need , ma'am .
660
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,915
I'm already hearing shocking rumors
about how the interview was secured .
661
00:52:08,334 --> 00:52:09,835
How can I effectively govern
662
00:52:09,918 --> 00:52:13,839
when it's not a corporation
I recognize anymore?
663
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:19,928
It's not a world I recognize anymore.
664
00:52:45,329 --> 00:52:48,791
Casa de Campo
is just a stroll from the airstrip.
665
00:52:48,874 --> 00:52:51,210
Whether you fly yourself, or take the--
666
00:53:00,469 --> 00:53:02,179
Feel the burnl
667
00:53:05,224 --> 00:53:06,266
Let me.
668
00:53:07,643 --> 00:53:08,811
Come on, nowl
669
00:53:08,894 --> 00:53:10,771
Five-star customer pick.
670
00:53:10,854 --> 00:53:12,856
Frivolous--
671
00:53:12,940 --> 00:53:15,109
...and have these kinda long, black--
672
00:53:26,537 --> 00:53:28,747
Couldn't we just find the BBC?
51993
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