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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,963 --> 00:00:18,509 If you could choose who you want to be ... who would you be? 2 00:00:19,543 --> 00:00:20,943 Outlaw. 3 00:00:21,187 --> 00:00:22,800 Film director. 4 00:00:22,900 --> 00:00:24,053 Rebel. 5 00:00:24,153 --> 00:00:25,532 Rock star. 6 00:00:25,851 --> 00:00:29,490 Paris, Casablanca, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra 7 00:00:29,590 --> 00:00:31,410 Amos Poe, Eric Mitchell. 8 00:00:31,855 --> 00:00:33,958 Take it from me, you dirty bitch ... 9 00:00:34,058 --> 00:00:37,508 living behind the camera. I'll shoot you! 10 00:01:05,063 --> 00:01:07,180 There was something important going on ... 11 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,188 a kind of "road old. Here are some of the messages. " 12 00:01:09,728 --> 00:01:14,122 Previously it was not a voice for independent film. 13 00:01:14,297 --> 00:01:17,797 The city was one of us, we He could shoot without a license. 14 00:01:18,141 --> 00:01:22,573 It has been inspiring people it did from their feelings. 15 00:01:22,673 --> 00:01:25,653 It's everything fell into place. That was the explosive moment. 16 00:01:26,266 --> 00:01:29,066 Meeting of like-minded. 17 00:01:36,526 --> 00:01:40,876 Whether you want to do ... or people you've met ... 18 00:01:40,976 --> 00:01:41,869 everything was possible. 19 00:01:42,226 --> 00:01:43,825 Make your movie. Do it without money. 20 00:01:44,372 --> 00:01:47,172 It was like we were living in a movie. 21 00:01:47,650 --> 00:01:49,750 It was very cinematic. 22 00:02:07,602 --> 00:02:09,702 Making the film was an accident. 23 00:02:10,762 --> 00:02:14,262 As a teenager, I went to my dealing with photography. 24 00:02:15,082 --> 00:02:17,882 America was about hope. Vietnam War ... 25 00:02:18,365 --> 00:02:21,165 Martin Luther King Robert Kennedy was assassinated. 26 00:02:22,190 --> 00:02:24,290 I was embarrassed. 27 00:02:25,757 --> 00:02:29,257 I went to Czechoslovakia Family visits to my father. 28 00:02:30,108 --> 00:02:35,177 I heard that there were farmers in the land of the Carpathian Mountains, Dracula ... 29 00:02:35,391 --> 00:02:38,891 which feared when photographed, their soul has been stolen. 30 00:02:39,748 --> 00:02:43,755 So I had a telephoto lens and tried steal as many souls as possible. 31 00:02:45,615 --> 00:02:47,673 And that night the Russians attacked inside. 32 00:02:47,773 --> 00:02:51,163 And I was lost in the wild and photographed. 33 00:02:51,263 --> 00:02:54,002 After that I could not shoot any more pictures. 34 00:02:54,648 --> 00:02:58,148 I'm back in the US and went to a friend ... 35 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,139 and he had two super-8 cameras. One lay apart ... 36 00:03:02,278 --> 00:03:03,746 and I asked: "What is it?" 37 00:03:03,846 --> 00:03:07,265 He said: "This is a super-8 camera. There you can make movies with him. " 38 00:03:07,365 --> 00:03:10,133 And it was love at first sight. 39 00:03:14,700 --> 00:03:18,200 Punk rock is not for nothing in the 70s he appeared. 40 00:03:18,300 --> 00:03:21,799 There was a rebellion against the cultural superficiality, that was then. 41 00:03:22,939 --> 00:03:26,986 You had the feeling that The circle was completed. 42 00:03:27,199 --> 00:03:30,699 We felt that we something new had their hands full. 43 00:03:34,010 --> 00:03:38,817 Whenever I went out I had a 16mm camera with me. 44 00:03:39,384 --> 00:03:43,957 The Council also took sound and I filmed Many bands with his friends. 45 00:03:45,956 --> 00:03:49,456 Ivan and I had a film called 'Night Dinner "did. 46 00:03:49,652 --> 00:03:52,452 Roxy Music, New York Dolls, David Bowie. 47 00:03:53,185 --> 00:03:55,985 It ended with Patti Smith in black and white. 48 00:03:56,221 --> 00:03:59,721 We decided all the other bands We have already filmed ... 49 00:04:00,777 --> 00:04:04,277 as Tumberlain, Patty Smith. Nobody knew them, but we thought ... 50 00:04:05,417 --> 00:04:08,917 if we do a full 60 minutes we have a "feature" film. 51 00:04:09,142 --> 00:04:11,942 They are easier to disperse. 52 00:04:21,027 --> 00:04:23,127 We always sat without money. 53 00:04:23,287 --> 00:04:25,387 That's why it was so resourceful. 54 00:04:26,537 --> 00:04:28,297 We had all this footage ... 55 00:04:28,397 --> 00:04:29,977 and had none of the bands Already published music. 56 00:04:30,762 --> 00:04:34,882 So we had to record Making of The Ramones and The Talking Heads. 57 00:04:35,302 --> 00:04:38,802 Our budget for editing "Blank Generation" was $ 100. 58 00:04:42,257 --> 00:04:46,657 The brothers were approaching the topic documentarians ... 59 00:04:47,317 --> 00:04:50,817 They had their own editing room. And I asked them if I could rent for $ 40. 60 00:04:51,797 --> 00:04:53,897 And they said, okay for 24 hours. 61 00:04:55,482 --> 00:05:01,017 So Ivan and I have some speed and we cut the film in one day ended. 62 00:05:02,772 --> 00:05:06,260 We showed the film at CBGB and everyone came to see. 63 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,447 It was a great success. 64 00:05:10,812 --> 00:05:14,312 It was about everything overboard throw all the rules. 65 00:05:14,467 --> 00:05:17,267 Making a film on 16mm film with nicks and everything. 66 00:05:17,412 --> 00:05:20,882 With a bunch of musicians eventually nobody has ever heard. 67 00:05:21,317 --> 00:05:25,517 Himself kicking and screaming to New York City stage of the campaign ... 68 00:05:26,232 --> 00:05:29,732 to announce that we are there. We arrived. 69 00:05:30,657 --> 00:05:35,737 I think that Amos Poe left us see that you could make a film without money. 70 00:05:36,202 --> 00:05:39,702 Not that we always without a budget wanted to work ... 71 00:05:39,803 --> 00:05:41,863 but we wanted to make films. 72 00:05:41,963 --> 00:05:45,393 And then when we did nothing My movies without a budget. 73 00:05:45,493 --> 00:05:48,263 This period was a cultural explosion. 74 00:05:48,838 --> 00:05:51,638 So many people were at make movies. 75 00:06:05,988 --> 00:06:09,488 It's really been an explosion, not only in the film, but also ... 76 00:06:09,768 --> 00:06:11,868 Music, theater and performance 77 00:06:12,338 --> 00:06:15,793 Lower East Side seemed a major movie studio. 78 00:06:15,978 --> 00:06:18,778 No one was in charge, not the money, but ... 79 00:06:19,093 --> 00:06:22,593 It was the accumulation talent and personality. 80 00:06:22,748 --> 00:06:30,758 It was all about himself saving the first team and film culture. 81 00:06:31,158 --> 00:06:33,911 Everyone experiment. 82 00:06:34,011 --> 00:06:36,308 And I thought, 'I want to be a part of. " 83 00:06:36,468 --> 00:06:38,568 What is "it" might be. 84 00:07:00,383 --> 00:07:03,463 I do not know if the story True or not, but ... 85 00:07:03,623 --> 00:07:09,383 There was a boy, Freddy, on Houston Street which one party won a super-8 camera ... 86 00:07:09,838 --> 00:07:13,203 sound, so a lot of people cheap could get my camera. 87 00:07:13,588 --> 00:07:18,283 He had ground where he sold all kinds of stolen goods. 88 00:07:18,913 --> 00:07:22,413 That day there was a row People buy these cameras. 89 00:07:23,003 --> 00:07:33,798 Then came six months later people with their super-8 films. 90 00:07:34,238 --> 00:07:37,038 And it helped the whole initiate movement. 91 00:07:38,398 --> 00:07:41,898 You did not eat, but bought Guitar or Super-8 camera. 92 00:07:42,513 --> 00:07:47,783 You went to a drugstore, bought some film, He called everyone together and start shooting. 93 00:07:48,194 --> 00:07:50,294 We wrote our own rules. 94 00:07:50,439 --> 00:07:53,939 And there is tried at a time Time break a few. 95 00:07:56,064 --> 00:07:57,884 "Do you want a taxi?" 96 00:08:06,349 --> 00:08:09,149 'Where do you want to go? - In Manhattan, please. " 97 00:08:09,689 --> 00:08:12,489 "What is the address? - Drive simply but nicely. 98 00:08:15,949 --> 00:08:19,449 I came to New York without he wants to stay here my whole life. 99 00:08:20,114 --> 00:08:23,614 But I felt like home, like so many free spirits. 100 00:08:24,619 --> 00:08:28,112 Normal people have fled So the only ones in New York ... 101 00:08:28,212 --> 00:08:31,999 wanted to go were the freaks and lunatics. 102 00:08:32,354 --> 00:08:36,404 Between 14th Street, Houston Bowery and Avenue B ... 103 00:08:36,574 --> 00:08:39,349 that was the whole world to us. 104 00:08:39,449 --> 00:08:42,924 You had all these areas, including Chinatown and Little Italy, and ... 105 00:08:43,059 --> 00:08:45,829 They might have already run around all those people meet ... 106 00:08:45,999 --> 00:08:48,799 You could from books and films. 107 00:08:49,434 --> 00:08:52,934 There they were, and they He had it as hard as you. 108 00:08:53,544 --> 00:08:57,744 He just came from William Burrows His staff that was actually a sword ... 109 00:08:58,409 --> 00:09:01,129 a Derringer pistol Among his belt. 110 00:09:01,229 --> 00:09:04,649 Attic, where I lived I was where did Yoko Ono's film 'fly'. 111 00:09:05,164 --> 00:09:11,149 People like Burrows, beat generation, He paved the way for us for free. 112 00:09:12,164 --> 00:09:14,469 It was the mythical New York Bob Dylan, and ... 113 00:09:14,854 --> 00:09:16,954 Allen Ginsberg poetry. 114 00:09:17,614 --> 00:09:21,114 "Running through the streets Angry looking angry swipe. 115 00:09:21,769 --> 00:09:26,199 Since the city was so decrepit ... We have to live cheaply. 116 00:09:32,194 --> 00:09:34,294 New York was nearly bankrupt. 117 00:09:35,419 --> 00:09:37,519 It was like the Wild West. 118 00:09:38,079 --> 00:09:40,879 President Ford refused Financial assistance to New York. 119 00:09:41,404 --> 00:09:46,129 As a result, the city was economically decrepit. 120 00:09:47,064 --> 00:09:50,564 There were areas on Lower East Side, where buildings ... 121 00:09:51,204 --> 00:09:56,824 there burned and abandoned layers and people went to live there. 122 00:09:57,864 --> 00:10:01,059 "Yesterday departed. Life Now Lower East Side ... 123 00:10:01,224 --> 00:10:04,024 in 2-bedroom. Details will follow later. " 124 00:10:04,524 --> 00:10:07,574 You could just anywhere draw and decide to live there. 125 00:10:07,749 --> 00:10:12,839 You searched innkeeper, and it turned out than having a shop in the street. 126 00:10:13,749 --> 00:10:17,249 You gave him a couple hundred dollars large loft. 127 00:10:17,899 --> 00:10:20,699 We lived like kings votes. 128 00:10:21,454 --> 00:10:23,554 In our dilapidated palaces. 129 00:10:23,784 --> 00:10:27,284 I pulled into a small apartment above a strip club. 130 00:10:28,484 --> 00:10:32,914 No one lived except thousands of rats. 131 00:10:33,094 --> 00:10:35,894 If the pest they withdrew through the deserted town. 132 00:10:38,289 --> 00:10:41,089 The apartment was really busy infested. 133 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,479 I paid the rent, but they were tenants. 134 00:10:44,999 --> 00:10:48,499 One of my recent films It was about cockroaches. 135 00:10:48,599 --> 00:10:51,399 You could see their desperate heads. 136 00:10:52,314 --> 00:10:55,259 We all had $ 50 per month a small apartment ... 137 00:10:55,429 --> 00:10:56,809 above and beside each other. 138 00:10:56,984 --> 00:10:58,323 We called it "Little Hollywood". 139 00:10:58,733 --> 00:11:02,233 There were people like Amos Poe Tina L'Hotsky and John Lurry. 140 00:11:03,188 --> 00:11:06,493 We worked on other films and music together. 141 00:11:06,893 --> 00:11:09,453 We were very well aware This was the same area ... 142 00:11:09,693 --> 00:11:13,193 where once the old one spoels movies were filmed. 143 00:11:13,353 --> 00:11:15,418 When they made films in one afternoon. 144 00:11:15,658 --> 00:11:18,458 We felt that we had a past. 145 00:11:19,243 --> 00:11:22,988 Rapid and impressive make movies. 146 00:11:23,208 --> 00:11:26,708 People shared their equipment and put things into ... 147 00:11:27,073 --> 00:11:28,683 and we worked together on films. 148 00:11:28,783 --> 00:11:31,678 We have been in this unit charred piece of New York ... 149 00:11:31,778 --> 00:11:34,528 We did not feel bound limits. 150 00:11:35,518 --> 00:11:38,318 We went to CBGB and Max's Kansas City ... 151 00:11:38,888 --> 00:11:41,743 And then suddenly everything Light in New York. 152 00:11:41,843 --> 00:11:44,593 And New York was shrouded in darkness. 153 00:11:45,063 --> 00:11:49,228 I saw people from the windows Shops throw. 154 00:11:49,328 --> 00:11:52,078 It was a huge act of liberation. 155 00:11:53,508 --> 00:11:57,008 I could remember when I failure of 1977 have seen ... 156 00:11:57,293 --> 00:12:00,073 State Constitution may be just explode. 157 00:12:00,173 --> 00:12:03,653 Beanstigde me, but I It was also exciting. 158 00:12:03,813 --> 00:12:07,313 Clinton Street is two blocks south of here. 159 00:12:07,638 --> 00:12:09,163 Further south, so I would not go. 160 00:12:09,263 --> 00:12:10,319 Why? 161 00:12:10,419 --> 00:12:12,324 Is there really dangerous. 162 00:12:12,424 --> 00:12:14,474 I hold myself. 163 00:12:15,154 --> 00:12:17,254 People taking the law into their own hands. 164 00:12:17,929 --> 00:12:20,729 If they do what forests just did it. 165 00:12:21,169 --> 00:12:23,969 Many drugs, crime ferocity. 166 00:12:24,779 --> 00:12:28,279 Neither of us had any money, so Our steal anything. 167 00:12:28,719 --> 00:12:32,219 The danger gave people energy instead of fear. 168 00:12:33,014 --> 00:12:36,514 You could be at night, relieved. There was every day of anarchy. 169 00:12:37,004 --> 00:12:40,504 It was exactly at the height Corruption New York. 170 00:12:41,524 --> 00:12:43,624 We came out of the rubble. 171 00:12:45,569 --> 00:12:49,069 It seemed that someone bomb was dropped on the Lower East Side. 172 00:12:49,244 --> 00:12:52,744 I remember conversations from that era When people asked me ... 173 00:12:53,284 --> 00:12:56,084 as you can in the name of God live in this place? 174 00:12:56,359 --> 00:12:59,859 And I thought, 'Well, let's just not to visit. " 175 00:13:03,134 --> 00:13:06,634 At Rivington Street was located foundation for young filmmakers ... 176 00:13:07,439 --> 00:13:10,239 There could rent a cheap camera. 177 00:13:10,854 --> 00:13:14,790 People stood in line on drugs he yelled at me because they thought ... 178 00:13:14,890 --> 00:13:17,643 I had the urge. I had to fight through junkies ... 179 00:13:17,743 --> 00:13:18,890 to pick up equipment. 180 00:13:18,990 --> 00:13:26,290 Rafik had OP Screening Room, which could rent, depending on how much money you had. 181 00:13:26,398 --> 00:13:32,487 He said that "I want $ 50. I'm just -'Maar One decade. "Well, you can rent for $ 7. 182 00:13:32,593 --> 00:13:36,255 He saw this group Emerging filmmakers ... 183 00:13:36,355 --> 00:13:39,105 and gave them space develop in. 184 00:13:40,010 --> 00:13:44,405 Every year on Thanksgiving, He invited all the ... 185 00:13:44,505 --> 00:13:49,008 and I served my cranberries Jack Smith. 186 00:13:55,405 --> 00:14:01,295 It was the heyday underground filmmaking in New York. 187 00:14:01,403 --> 00:14:07,888 Jonas Mekas, Shirley Clark, Robert Frank, and certainly Jack Smith. 188 00:14:07,988 --> 00:14:11,108 He was known in the neighborhood. 189 00:14:11,208 --> 00:14:17,430 I remember pointing in rats and he said: "The soul of the dead landlords. 190 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:22,810 In the mid-70s, "you had Warhol Jack Smith, Harry Smith, Jonas Mekas ... 191 00:14:22,910 --> 00:14:28,050 all live in New York. You should have everything in place there. 192 00:14:30,355 --> 00:14:35,295 Everything I know I learned from making, reading and watching movies. 193 00:14:38,493 --> 00:14:41,675 French cinema like Godard and Bresant. 194 00:14:41,915 --> 00:14:45,155 Italian films like Antonioni. 195 00:14:47,903 --> 00:14:51,403 And ... because, with a small a group of people to work. 196 00:14:51,755 --> 00:14:53,998 Kind of family. 197 00:14:54,488 --> 00:14:57,288 He made his black and white narrative films. 198 00:15:03,158 --> 00:15:05,293 Warhol's love for his concept of ... 199 00:15:05,528 --> 00:15:08,138 Fassbender for actors brings together ... 200 00:15:08,353 --> 00:15:10,453 Pasidiny blameless ... 201 00:15:10,618 --> 00:15:13,418 A Melville for his hat and sunglasses. 202 00:15:15,148 --> 00:15:20,523 People were glad Style and he wanted to make such films themselves ... 203 00:15:20,713 --> 00:15:23,733 but with a nonchalant attitude. 204 00:15:23,918 --> 00:15:28,068 "I'm doing my film and if you Not to you but to rot. 205 00:15:31,698 --> 00:15:34,498 "Melancholia solidifies my face." 206 00:15:35,333 --> 00:15:37,153 "Drink and women ... 207 00:15:38,533 --> 00:15:43,343 "Only with anger, try I'm looking at your face. " 208 00:15:45,368 --> 00:15:47,468 "I steal from the acts. 209 00:15:48,358 --> 00:15:51,858 "Nature has its own plans. But no reflection. 210 00:15:53,123 --> 00:15:55,223 "Society makes demands. 211 00:15:56,518 --> 00:15:58,618 "I live only for one reason." 212 00:15:59,958 --> 00:16:01,358 'I am'. 213 00:16:02,168 --> 00:16:03,988 What happens now? 214 00:16:04,138 --> 00:16:06,938 I do not know? I can not see into the future. 215 00:16:08,638 --> 00:16:10,038 True! 216 00:16:10,998 --> 00:16:13,798 Well, if it's fate I'll let you ... 217 00:16:14,428 --> 00:16:16,528 if not, I leave. 218 00:16:17,823 --> 00:16:20,623 He still works as Godard principles. 219 00:16:21,473 --> 00:16:24,973 Due to the work, without lighting and movies from your hand. 220 00:16:25,863 --> 00:16:30,338 And the first time I things look in practice ... 221 00:16:30,688 --> 00:16:34,758 It was when I borrowed a 16mm camera Amos Poe and gave him the ... 222 00:16:35,268 --> 00:16:38,768 so that he scene Deborah Harry filmed. 223 00:16:40,108 --> 00:16:42,208 Ready to take my picture? - 224 00:16:42,758 --> 00:16:46,258 Amos put an ad in "Village Voice". 225 00:16:46,738 --> 00:16:50,938 Eric responded to the ad "Unmāda Beds" and Patty Astor him. 226 00:16:51,233 --> 00:16:55,433 I had Duncan Hannah who plays the lead Time to recognize that. 227 00:16:56,473 --> 00:17:00,799 He said: Do you want me They play a major role in the film without a script? 228 00:17:01,169 --> 00:17:03,658 Yes, they have about two weeks: I said We finished the script. 229 00:17:03,758 --> 00:17:08,414 Sorry, but you can give me a tenner borrow up next week? 230 00:17:08,604 --> 00:17:12,104 I've already made their money And then I got fired. 231 00:17:12,339 --> 00:17:15,139 My wife was pregnant and gave birth to a child. 232 00:17:15,260 --> 00:17:19,214 And when she was still upset and had to be admitted. 233 00:17:19,392 --> 00:17:23,591 So I finished my film. I had a contribution ... 234 00:17:23,729 --> 00:17:27,966 with a pram snow as Doctor Zhivago ... 235 00:17:28,066 --> 00:17:31,582 Wipe madhouse so the baby could see her mother. 236 00:17:31,682 --> 00:17:35,148 Besides making this movie, I was Also in the plans for the next film. 237 00:17:35,254 --> 00:17:38,698 It was the best and worst time of my life. 238 00:17:43,402 --> 00:17:49,888 "The Stranger" was quick tough film made real at the moment. 239 00:17:50,224 --> 00:17:53,024 Stranger walked in January 1978 premiere. 240 00:17:53,133 --> 00:17:56,153 Until then, everyone wanted make movies. 241 00:17:56,284 --> 00:17:58,384 Everyone who came to the premiere. 242 00:17:58,557 --> 00:18:04,378 I was surprised that it was Amos Road went up and made a feature film. 243 00:18:06,007 --> 00:18:10,395 When other filmmakers started I said, "you can do it." 244 00:18:10,495 --> 00:18:12,445 If I can do that, you can too. 245 00:18:12,562 --> 00:18:20,732 Amos Poe was the one who next independent film movement ... 246 00:18:20,832 --> 00:18:22,953 After Andy Warhol started. 247 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,041 I read about Warhol's Time magazine ... 248 00:18:29,141 --> 00:18:31,959 so I New York come. 249 00:18:32,101 --> 00:18:34,565 The angle of incidence was similar to Warhol films. 250 00:18:34,765 --> 00:18:38,265 Bring your friends, give them costumes and let them freely for the camera. 251 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,933 We deliberately alienate us from avant-garde cinema. 252 00:18:46,214 --> 00:18:49,131 We wanted to tell our stories movies instead art films. 253 00:18:49,337 --> 00:18:51,437 So you can reach more people. 254 00:18:51,879 --> 00:18:53,979 "I want to see you in action." 255 00:18:54,313 --> 00:18:58,793 They took things from "Underground" and "expirimentele" movies ... 256 00:18:58,914 --> 00:19:01,393 and created a new genre. 257 00:19:01,562 --> 00:19:03,487 So much ... 258 00:19:04,332 --> 00:19:07,971 It was grim. It was Reflection time. 259 00:19:08,071 --> 00:19:11,002 At night, the street was dead scary. 260 00:19:11,189 --> 00:19:14,404 It explains how people from "Alphabet City" he held. 261 00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:16,764 And they knew that scariest rooms. 262 00:19:16,864 --> 00:19:19,454 Home Run was like You went to war. 263 00:19:21,419 --> 00:19:25,469 It was very similar to the movie "Midnight Cowboy." 264 00:19:25,681 --> 00:19:29,887 You could even Ratso Rizzo-like characters meet. 265 00:19:29,987 --> 00:19:33,349 A type of Joe Bucks on 35th Street. 266 00:19:35,026 --> 00:19:38,747 Lots of inspiration Events had nothing ... 267 00:19:38,847 --> 00:19:42,448 deal with other artists but with the people that I met on the street. 268 00:19:42,548 --> 00:19:45,862 Or people who were trying to rip. 269 00:19:47,674 --> 00:19:51,474 I wish the "Smitherines' rough characters indicate ... 270 00:19:51,574 --> 00:19:53,946 a world in which they lived. 271 00:19:54,046 --> 00:19:56,321 If you have no money things to meet ... 272 00:19:56,421 --> 00:19:59,027 just use what's there. 273 00:20:00,585 --> 00:20:03,342 No money for the movie? Steal some shots. 274 00:20:03,442 --> 00:20:06,199 We were aggressive because we were idealists. 275 00:20:11,986 --> 00:20:14,757 Eric asked me a movie Make "Kidnapping". 276 00:20:14,857 --> 00:20:17,659 It was a good system. We just shot ... 277 00:20:17,759 --> 00:20:21,130 War film wrapped and sent It is behind. 278 00:20:21,286 --> 00:20:22,758 And it was a movie. 279 00:20:22,901 --> 00:20:27,953 My approach has always been let the action play. 280 00:20:28,053 --> 00:20:30,836 Aim the camera out and look at it. 281 00:20:30,936 --> 00:20:33,891 You do not need to interfere too much with what happened. 282 00:20:33,991 --> 00:20:36,241 We shot it in one day. No adjustments. 283 00:20:36,341 --> 00:20:40,068 It was "punks speed" and "terrorists on valium. 284 00:20:41,152 --> 00:20:44,255 Eric Mitchel attended floor above me on the 3rd street. 285 00:20:44,357 --> 00:20:47,379 Eric could be electricity account does not pay 286 00:20:47,479 --> 00:20:54,109 So he had an extension cord John Lurie house. 287 00:20:54,234 --> 00:20:57,621 Every time I pissed I had it pulled the plug. 288 00:20:57,743 --> 00:21:00,149 Sometimes completely War I and Eric. 289 00:21:00,249 --> 00:21:02,348 Only whole time. 290 00:21:03,521 --> 00:21:08,041 Eric then made his films ... and I thought I could. 291 00:21:08,141 --> 00:21:11,044 John Lurie just followed me in the street. 292 00:21:11,144 --> 00:21:13,254 And one day he knocked on my door ... 293 00:21:13,354 --> 00:21:17,077 and he gave me some speed and we made a movie together. 294 00:21:19,615 --> 00:21:22,810 John made film James Chance ... 295 00:21:23,724 --> 00:21:26,526 and get money To "Men in Orbit" ... 296 00:21:26,647 --> 00:21:29,669 put into the robbery scene. 297 00:21:29,769 --> 00:21:32,215 His saxophone was probably stolen. 298 00:21:32,315 --> 00:21:34,411 For vezekeringsgeld. 299 00:21:35,331 --> 00:21:38,976 We broke the law on money collect our movies. 300 00:21:39,076 --> 00:21:40,884 That was our way. 301 00:21:43,125 --> 00:21:46,047 I kept a secret, that I could play the saxophone. 302 00:21:46,147 --> 00:21:47,857 And I've done movies. 303 00:21:47,957 --> 00:21:51,451 Nobody did what was good. 304 00:21:51,556 --> 00:21:55,577 If you do not have good technique. The technique was really hated. 305 00:21:55,677 --> 00:21:57,053 Artists making music. 306 00:21:57,153 --> 00:21:59,059 Musicians painted or produced films. 307 00:21:59,159 --> 00:22:01,917 Nobody did what He knew about. 308 00:22:02,027 --> 00:22:07,899 There was suddenly a crossroads between music, theater and the arts. 309 00:22:07,999 --> 00:22:13,912 That did not happen sooner and the attitude was, just do it. 310 00:22:14,012 --> 00:22:15,502 I never went to film school ... 311 00:22:15,602 --> 00:22:23,830 I just took a small Kodak camera He turned it on and learned to make films. 312 00:22:24,014 --> 00:22:28,639 But in all this was Hidden powerful message. 313 00:22:31,949 --> 00:22:34,029 Did you see another people do things ... 314 00:22:34,129 --> 00:22:37,629 you thought that what can not play the guitar ... 315 00:22:37,729 --> 00:22:41,374 I can not. Maybe I'm in the band. 316 00:22:44,028 --> 00:22:46,809 Things went at that time so quickly. 317 00:22:46,909 --> 00:22:50,379 In the four-month period TV and you had Blondie and the Ramones. 318 00:22:50,479 --> 00:22:54,347 Two months later it was all over and twist and DNA. 319 00:22:54,455 --> 00:22:56,972 I've never heard anything like it. 320 00:22:57,072 --> 00:22:59,830 "No Wave" was a clever name. 321 00:22:59,930 --> 00:23:03,224 This was used to appoint those bands ... 322 00:23:03,393 --> 00:23:07,121 who were more unharmonious. 323 00:23:14,956 --> 00:23:17,056 It was really nihilistic. 324 00:23:17,210 --> 00:23:20,710 Destroy all of the 1976th This is the end. Burned. 325 00:23:22,295 --> 00:23:24,724 It was much more experimental. 326 00:23:24,824 --> 00:23:30,735 Spread the idea of ​​punk conceptual understanding of music. 327 00:23:30,835 --> 00:23:33,475 Minimal, minimal, loud ... 328 00:23:33,792 --> 00:23:37,292 Try to bring music as if it had never occurred before. 329 00:23:37,763 --> 00:23:40,794 "Mars" was a first for me No Wave band. 330 00:23:40,894 --> 00:23:43,589 They inspired me start with "Teenage Jesus. 331 00:23:43,689 --> 00:23:47,463 Unlike apart and some In a twist of ... 332 00:23:47,563 --> 00:23:50,947 There was at the No Wave They not trained musicians. 333 00:23:51,047 --> 00:23:53,832 Just picked up a tool and she started making noise. 334 00:23:53,932 --> 00:23:57,932 Someone gave me a lousy broken guitar and ... 335 00:23:58,032 --> 00:24:01,335 Then I started music to Teenage Jesus. 336 00:24:01,435 --> 00:24:05,706 She brought LP which was four minutes. 337 00:24:05,806 --> 00:24:08,796 Their concept was "less is more. 338 00:24:08,896 --> 00:24:14,038 My influences came from literature, dada, surrealism ... 339 00:24:14,138 --> 00:24:17,446 a film, rather than the music. 340 00:24:17,546 --> 00:24:20,037 I wish Bradly field as a drummer. 341 00:24:20,137 --> 00:24:22,160 which is simply a drinker crazy was that I met ... 342 00:24:22,260 --> 00:24:26,401 on the Bowery, where he was a pilgrim stomped him fired. 343 00:24:26,501 --> 00:24:30,039 I wanted him as a drummer. He said: I do not play drums ... 344 00:24:30,139 --> 00:24:32,913 but I told you or play the drum. 345 00:24:33,013 --> 00:24:37,739 Bradley Field of Lydia Lunch He had one drum and a stick. 346 00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:39,947 That was the drummer. 347 00:24:40,047 --> 00:24:42,542 A Gordon Stevenson on bass guitar. 348 00:24:42,847 --> 00:24:46,808 He was the first person I could who died of AIDS. 349 00:24:58,556 --> 00:25:00,354 It was a huge personality on stage. 350 00:25:00,613 --> 00:25:05,343 It was truly an icon of his time. 351 00:25:05,443 --> 00:25:07,929 She was born for this role. 352 00:25:08,029 --> 00:25:10,781 "That's not funny now be a teenager. " 353 00:25:11,195 --> 00:25:13,894 It was so wild, so young and ... 354 00:25:13,994 --> 00:25:16,501 I was with her first filmed. 355 00:25:17,020 --> 00:25:20,610 In 1978 everything was Well, the people of the waves ... 356 00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:23,576 Suddenly he plays in No Wave films. 357 00:25:23,676 --> 00:25:27,456 People like Lydia Lunch, Pat Place, Sway Anna and John Lurie. 358 00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:31,691 One way Aesthetic of Music ... 359 00:25:31,791 --> 00:25:36,091 convey to create a movie. Their talent for using soundtracks. 360 00:25:37,674 --> 00:25:42,049 I could not find a better actor In my own circle ... 361 00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:45,126 and most of us Actors are already ... 362 00:25:45,226 --> 00:25:47,021 in our own lives. 363 00:25:55,786 --> 00:26:01,889 Patty Astor was known Actress in "downtown" movie scene. 364 00:26:01,989 --> 00:26:04,711 She starred in Amos Poe films. 365 00:26:04,836 --> 00:26:06,936 A film of Eric Mitchell. 366 00:26:13,721 --> 00:26:16,108 I wanted to act in films. 367 00:26:16,251 --> 00:26:19,939 I find myself always actress ... 368 00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:22,676 who pretended to be a rock star. 369 00:26:22,776 --> 00:26:26,538 Then I existed rock & Roll really for women. 370 00:26:26,638 --> 00:26:29,161 It was only for men. 371 00:26:30,816 --> 00:26:33,895 There was an element of cooperation. 372 00:26:34,026 --> 00:26:38,602 And the people who worked with me ... He had my trust. 373 00:26:38,702 --> 00:26:41,597 I had no ambition to be an actress. 374 00:26:41,697 --> 00:26:43,846 I'm so bad at it. 375 00:26:43,971 --> 00:26:45,967 We could not act. 376 00:26:46,067 --> 00:26:50,560 We shot semi-documentary Unitarian options. 377 00:26:55,513 --> 00:27:04,428 I gave my friends roll They were also in real life. 378 00:27:05,035 --> 00:27:07,613 Rome '78 was very ambitious. 379 00:27:07,713 --> 00:27:10,138 It was like a military exercise. 380 00:27:10,269 --> 00:27:13,613 James' film was like a pair of escaped lunatics ... 381 00:27:13,713 --> 00:27:16,323 He gave them Roman costumes. 382 00:27:16,423 --> 00:27:18,226 They were just sheets. 383 00:27:18,326 --> 00:27:20,683 I had to leave him pay sheets. 384 00:27:20,783 --> 00:27:24,429 People in robes that reenact Rome in the heart of New York City ... 385 00:27:24,529 --> 00:27:26,071 It was really hilarious. 386 00:27:26,241 --> 00:27:29,728 That is something we will not soon It connects with the No Wave scene. 387 00:27:29,828 --> 00:27:31,046 It was very funny. 388 00:27:31,159 --> 00:27:37,436 "I said," pretend "and you really trying to kill me! " 389 00:27:37,912 --> 00:27:41,076 It speaks for itself: "They are killing Cesar. 390 00:27:41,641 --> 00:27:45,141 It was difficult to predict what at what moment would happen. 391 00:27:45,632 --> 00:27:49,554 The dialogue was partly written ... 392 00:27:49,654 --> 00:27:53,188 and the residue was instead improvised. 393 00:27:54,129 --> 00:27:57,191 I wanted to shoot in this building ... 394 00:27:57,322 --> 00:28:00,244 So I went to see ... 395 00:28:00,404 --> 00:28:03,903 and pretended that I wanted to rent it. 396 00:28:04,026 --> 00:28:06,826 He took me up in the elevator ... 397 00:28:06,926 --> 00:28:10,559 The elevator opened and I He saw this beautiful vaulted ceiling. 398 00:28:10,671 --> 00:28:14,522 I secretly lock your windows .. 399 00:28:14,690 --> 00:28:17,909 and that evening we climbed to the top ... 400 00:28:18,009 --> 00:28:21,614 He went inside I opened the windows ... 401 00:28:21,714 --> 00:28:24,076 and we made our film. 402 00:28:29,251 --> 00:28:33,853 I used everything But Roman looked like something my decor. 403 00:28:33,986 --> 00:28:36,782 But there have always been parking signs or ... 404 00:28:36,882 --> 00:28:39,201 people who smoked cigarettes. 405 00:28:42,222 --> 00:28:47,888 I still think ... All films were New York ... 406 00:28:47,988 --> 00:28:51,786 although Ancient Rome suggested. 407 00:28:52,381 --> 00:28:56,956 "Hey, what's bothering you here?" 408 00:28:57,106 --> 00:28:58,526 'I do not know?' 409 00:28:58,626 --> 00:29:00,709 "Looking around the neighborhood." 410 00:29:01,246 --> 00:29:04,046 "Yeah, we just walk past. Why? " 411 00:29:04,677 --> 00:29:09,105 Eric Mitchell film "The Way It is "the first film ... 412 00:29:09,226 --> 00:29:11,427 where I played. 413 00:29:11,527 --> 00:29:16,036 Eric wrote the dialogue and the actors ... while setting up the device. 414 00:29:16,136 --> 00:29:18,448 Martin Boon said, "What if I say this ...?" 415 00:29:18,548 --> 00:29:20,952 A Herbert said, "Great! Steve, what would you say ...? " 416 00:29:21,070 --> 00:29:24,401 And then I spot some text. 417 00:29:25,061 --> 00:29:27,861 Eric had all its equipment in the laundry basket. 418 00:29:28,020 --> 00:29:32,031 And then he cried under my A window they needed me. 419 00:29:32,961 --> 00:29:35,761 Then we went to the streets and filmed the scene. 420 00:29:36,386 --> 00:29:38,486 Vincent Gallo also played on. 421 00:29:46,957 --> 00:29:53,827 We played our kind of films not aware of emotions. 422 00:29:54,973 --> 00:30:00,644 A bad acting The result was ... 423 00:30:00,744 --> 00:30:07,286 it was deliberate and an important aspect of the film. 424 00:30:07,395 --> 00:30:10,106 Your name Schreuber? - Yes. 425 00:30:10,246 --> 00:30:11,614 Name? - Dora. 426 00:30:11,714 --> 00:30:12,855 Nickname? - Rat. 427 00:30:12,955 --> 00:30:14,514 Age? - 21 428 00:30:14,614 --> 00:30:16,710 Jobs? - Prostitute. 429 00:30:16,810 --> 00:30:18,898 Which categories? - Luxury. 430 00:30:19,831 --> 00:30:21,931 I've already answered this question. 431 00:30:22,749 --> 00:30:25,541 It was like Abstact Expressionist painting. 432 00:30:25,641 --> 00:30:31,151 I continued shooting or until the money ran out ... 433 00:30:31,251 --> 00:30:33,021 whether the film was completed. 434 00:30:39,032 --> 00:30:42,334 It was the normal thing in the world for me ... 435 00:30:42,434 --> 00:30:46,153 go to bed at 8 pm and sleep up to 11 hours ... 436 00:30:46,253 --> 00:30:48,728 and get dressed and go out. 437 00:30:50,013 --> 00:30:53,963 The home was in the first CBGB body. 438 00:30:54,288 --> 00:30:58,823 I met a lot of musicians But Amos Poe and Eric Mitchell. 439 00:30:59,028 --> 00:31:02,824 I first came to CBGB ... 440 00:31:02,924 --> 00:31:06,410 it was the first time I was somewhere He was with like-minded people. 441 00:31:06,510 --> 00:31:08,316 Freaks and Misfits. 442 00:31:11,175 --> 00:31:12,995 "Are you going now?" 443 00:31:14,565 --> 00:31:17,034 "Girl, it goes off without me." 444 00:31:18,169 --> 00:31:20,893 'Where are you going? MUD Club? " 445 00:31:21,378 --> 00:31:28,626 Exchanged from one another Max is at CBGB's to Mud Club. 446 00:31:28,726 --> 00:31:33,578 Anyone with a little bit of art He did come in these clubs. 447 00:31:38,552 --> 00:31:43,296 There was always a film screening Scott B and Beth and Charlie Ahern. 448 00:31:43,524 --> 00:31:46,987 Lots of ideas were replaced in clubs. 449 00:31:47,087 --> 00:31:49,149 Associated with drug use. 450 00:31:49,614 --> 00:31:52,367 If you live in a shanty house ... 451 00:31:52,467 --> 00:31:54,899 between two empty houses surrounded by trash ... 452 00:31:54,999 --> 00:31:58,422 where it is dangerous just go home ... 453 00:31:58,522 --> 00:32:02,261 then you have what it takes rather blunt reality. 454 00:32:02,374 --> 00:32:04,849 Plus it was nice. 455 00:32:04,949 --> 00:32:07,239 You had much better drugs in the late 70s. 456 00:32:07,339 --> 00:32:09,109 All types of pills ... 457 00:32:09,564 --> 00:32:11,384 and barbiturates. 458 00:32:13,409 --> 00:32:16,483 Pills or drink, it did not matter. 459 00:32:16,583 --> 00:32:21,162 Then I thought that I was a little bit barrier could break ... 460 00:32:21,262 --> 00:32:24,050 spot more Truth was faithful. 461 00:32:24,150 --> 00:32:26,974 People at that time were much less hypocritical about drugs. 462 00:32:27,074 --> 00:32:29,809 You had this whole morale resistance to drug use. 463 00:32:29,909 --> 00:32:32,252 It was normal part of our lives. 464 00:32:32,352 --> 00:32:35,754 I remember parties Cookie Meuller, who ... 465 00:32:35,854 --> 00:32:38,554 crazy woman was who He died of AIDS. 466 00:32:38,654 --> 00:32:41,384 He often gave MDA feetsjes. XTC predecessor. 467 00:32:41,484 --> 00:32:43,039 It was on Christmas Eve. 468 00:32:43,139 --> 00:32:46,589 Anyone who snorted as MDA and people who hated each other ... 469 00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:48,867 They were suddenly friends from each other. 470 00:32:48,969 --> 00:32:51,389 I remember Copol He was at the party. 471 00:32:51,489 --> 00:32:53,840 Like a weird dream. And then He left. 472 00:32:53,940 --> 00:32:57,653 Cookie, was a dealer. Fasbinder was a drug dealer. 473 00:32:57,753 --> 00:33:01,410 If you were with her you saw Fasbinder Sometimes they come to pick up a Coke. 474 00:33:01,510 --> 00:33:05,092 She was in many movies and They could also write very well. 475 00:33:05,192 --> 00:33:09,574 It was an eclectic and diverse so many people ... 476 00:33:09,674 --> 00:33:13,480 who met and their Ideas had to do. 477 00:33:13,580 --> 00:33:19,214 Does not mean no ambition Do not look into the future. 478 00:33:29,859 --> 00:33:34,059 At the beginning appeared an article in the "Village Voice" ... 479 00:33:34,644 --> 00:33:38,276 and he brought in all those movies Sudden public attention. 480 00:33:38,376 --> 00:33:43,497 I believe that Jim Hoberman which was marked "No Wave" invented 481 00:33:43,597 --> 00:33:44,649 for these films. 482 00:33:44,749 --> 00:33:47,549 Then he began to build the Real. 483 00:33:48,039 --> 00:33:51,477 The label "No Wave" is nothing more than it's just a label. 484 00:33:51,577 --> 00:33:56,864 One way to all those disciplines stopping in one category. 485 00:33:57,099 --> 00:34:01,094 This facilitates Media refer to this type of art. 486 00:34:01,194 --> 00:34:04,149 We need category in order to reduce the bottom movements. 487 00:34:04,249 --> 00:34:08,020 I have no problem with "No Wave" because "NO" ("no" or "no"), he says ... 488 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,562 "Wave (wave or motion). It will be named for what it is. 489 00:34:11,662 --> 00:34:13,542 'What is it? I know too damn much? " 490 00:34:13,642 --> 00:34:17,493 I do not think all Our films look alike. 491 00:34:17,593 --> 00:34:19,554 Format Super-8 was common factor. 492 00:34:19,654 --> 00:34:26,381 And they work with actors and feature, documentary or did both. 493 00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:28,529 You could not do it. 494 00:34:28,762 --> 00:34:32,479 I just went to Eric and Amos, and they said ... 495 00:34:32,579 --> 00:34:35,909 Whenever you go now even make a movie? 496 00:34:36,009 --> 00:34:38,059 Come on, Jim. Create a feature film. 497 00:34:38,419 --> 00:34:43,275 My first film "permanent vacation" I wrote to my friend ... 498 00:34:43,375 --> 00:34:46,044 Chris Parker, who was 14 years when I met him. 499 00:34:46,144 --> 00:34:49,594 He was a smart way come to CBGB ... 500 00:34:49,784 --> 00:34:51,414 without paying. 501 00:34:51,514 --> 00:34:54,959 There was a back entrance to loading and unloading. We went ... 502 00:34:55,059 --> 00:34:58,194 back and if someone The door opened, we crept ... 503 00:34:58,294 --> 00:35:01,350 and hid for Hilly Crystal the owner of the tent. 504 00:35:01,450 --> 00:35:05,249 Chris Young would have. I thought the guy has charisma. 505 00:35:06,069 --> 00:35:09,569 Chris was out already very movable type. 506 00:35:10,914 --> 00:35:15,204 But when I started shooting It was less agile ... 507 00:35:15,304 --> 00:35:19,824 So I went there and who took the speed of the film. 508 00:35:22,349 --> 00:35:24,928 It was not a documentary ... 509 00:35:25,028 --> 00:35:28,524 But it was filmed in Where we hung out before. 510 00:35:29,654 --> 00:35:34,169 We filmed in Genoa flat Lurrie 3rd Street. 511 00:35:34,374 --> 00:35:37,489 And Jean Michelle Basquiat was a good friend of ours. 512 00:35:37,589 --> 00:35:41,266 He called himself "Samo" and wrote Graffiti on the streets. 513 00:35:41,366 --> 00:35:47,125 Often he had no place to sleep So he slept with me or John apartment. 514 00:35:47,225 --> 00:35:52,384 So while we turned my film Genoa apartment sleeping ... 515 00:35:52,484 --> 00:35:54,534 in a sleeping bag on the floor. 516 00:35:55,404 --> 00:36:04,194 So during the shoot, I trudged remains under the camera ... 517 00:36:04,294 --> 00:36:07,744 so it was out of the picture. And he slept What she fell asleep again. 518 00:36:08,074 --> 00:36:14,924 So in these scenes, that is in the room But I pulled to get him out of the picture. 519 00:36:22,694 --> 00:36:26,697 I sent the movie to Film Festival in Germany ... 520 00:36:26,797 --> 00:36:29,653 and the film won the prize. 521 00:36:29,753 --> 00:36:35,915 So when I came back I could Even my evil landlord pays off. 522 00:36:36,044 --> 00:36:40,761 And Wim Wenders saw my film, and He offered me some film work ... 523 00:36:40,861 --> 00:36:43,503 and I've just gone with the film. 524 00:36:48,244 --> 00:36:50,534 You could do a film show him next week. 525 00:36:50,634 --> 00:36:53,377 It was filmed, cut and screened. 526 00:36:53,477 --> 00:36:56,559 We walked at night on the streets with a bucket of glue ... 527 00:36:56,659 --> 00:37:00,059 and posted throughout our movie posters. 528 00:37:00,274 --> 00:37:01,559 And it worked just fine. 529 00:37:01,659 --> 00:37:04,788 Eric, James and I decided to our own cinema set. 530 00:37:04,888 --> 00:37:11,409 "New Cinema" served to recall Films provide a platform. 531 00:37:11,509 --> 00:37:16,258 We filmed in Super-8 and convert straight to video. 532 00:37:16,358 --> 00:37:19,956 And then we could get into the "New Cinema "run as often as we wanted. 533 00:37:20,056 --> 00:37:22,967 It was the first video Theater in New York. 534 00:37:23,067 --> 00:37:24,639 I went there regularly. 535 00:37:24,739 --> 00:37:27,489 They turned Lurrie John's "Men in Orbit" ... 536 00:37:27,611 --> 00:37:30,943 and James near the "Rome-78th 537 00:37:31,043 --> 00:37:33,834 I left 'The Deadly Art of Survival " see there. 538 00:37:33,934 --> 00:37:37,521 As long as people came to see the movie Turn left him there. 539 00:37:37,621 --> 00:37:41,235 We really wanted people he had to pay to see movies. 540 00:37:41,335 --> 00:37:42,665 No admission charge. 541 00:37:42,765 --> 00:37:45,475 Two input dollar, or you will not get inside. 542 00:37:45,575 --> 00:37:49,723 Occasionally, serious film, came Critics see it as a film ... 543 00:37:49,823 --> 00:37:52,037 It was written in Soho News and The Village Voice. 544 00:37:52,137 --> 00:37:54,887 Some films drew weeks Long full houses. 545 00:37:55,335 --> 00:37:58,830 We were amazed how people were interested in our films. 546 00:37:58,930 --> 00:38:03,213 Did you have some 5-600 people Center, they knew. 547 00:38:03,313 --> 00:38:06,754 And somehow arrived everyone appears to ... 548 00:38:06,854 --> 00:38:09,125 to do that night was. 549 00:38:10,864 --> 00:38:15,113 Exhibitions were organized in Other opportunities than clubs. 550 00:38:15,213 --> 00:38:19,302 Famous performance was beneficial X-Magazine that James is coming ... 551 00:38:19,402 --> 00:38:21,772 and several others were involved. 552 00:38:21,872 --> 00:38:25,506 James was "Teenage Jesus vacation and ... 553 00:38:25,606 --> 00:38:27,345 He is working on his own band focus. 554 00:38:27,445 --> 00:38:30,367 He came to me and said, "I think you can find it all right, you play a musical instrument? " 555 00:38:30,467 --> 00:38:33,917 The audience of "The twist" existed Artistic types of wind Soho. 556 00:38:34,949 --> 00:38:39,369 They were cool guys so I started pulling on them ... 557 00:38:39,469 --> 00:38:43,733 and yet did not respond I started them what to trade. 558 00:38:43,833 --> 00:38:48,129 I really wanted physical, emotional response from them. 559 00:38:48,363 --> 00:38:51,863 He jumped into the audience and began pushing the greatest person. 560 00:38:52,702 --> 00:38:56,697 If you went to see twist could your hair out as they are developed ... 561 00:38:56,797 --> 00:38:58,567 It was amazing. 562 00:39:00,326 --> 00:39:04,283 The audience gave the attack Concert element of pure realism ... 563 00:39:04,383 --> 00:39:07,845 but the more I did it More is expected from me. 564 00:39:09,275 --> 00:39:12,775 It was the opposite why I did it. 565 00:39:16,802 --> 00:39:21,234 I once had to sign statements I would do it on stage. 566 00:39:21,334 --> 00:39:25,010 So I replaced it with violence violent dance. 567 00:39:25,110 --> 00:39:27,820 So I did not have to beat people. 568 00:39:29,311 --> 00:39:32,811 I left the band just Brian Eno came. 569 00:39:38,577 --> 00:39:42,044 In a twist fallen apart and I founded ... 570 00:39:42,144 --> 00:39:44,335 another band with my friends. 571 00:39:44,435 --> 00:39:47,885 Our first gig was in the "TR3" and we had six songs. 572 00:39:49,459 --> 00:39:53,426 To see how he was simply charming. 573 00:39:53,812 --> 00:39:56,612 Bands like get our from these influences. 574 00:39:57,364 --> 00:40:00,861 I remember that everywhere posters hung with ... 575 00:40:00,961 --> 00:40:03,758 Then "Everyone here is in the band." 576 00:40:04,370 --> 00:40:07,170 I also had a band, "Del Byzanteens" ... 577 00:40:07,425 --> 00:40:11,601 We opened Echo Bunnymen and New Order. 578 00:40:12,056 --> 00:40:16,949 Everyone knew that I wanted to paint, writing or in a band. 579 00:40:17,538 --> 00:40:19,638 And often all three. 580 00:40:23,573 --> 00:40:29,107 I just wanted personalities and show band. 581 00:40:29,342 --> 00:40:32,712 Everyone wanted movies so that one and a half hours. 582 00:40:32,812 --> 00:40:35,562 I was a friend of Edo Bertolio. 583 00:40:36,379 --> 00:40:38,479 Edo was a great photographer. 584 00:40:38,881 --> 00:40:41,550 We had a lot Matching interests. 585 00:40:41,650 --> 00:40:43,420 As girls and drugs. 586 00:40:43,583 --> 00:40:46,524 His girlfriend "Marie Paul" provided funding. 587 00:40:46,624 --> 00:40:49,354 Nobody ever gave money foil to it. 588 00:40:49,454 --> 00:40:52,965 It stole or robbed just down together. 589 00:40:53,065 --> 00:40:56,431 And suddenly we had to production company. 590 00:40:56,531 --> 00:40:58,532 I wrote a screenplay for a week. 591 00:40:58,632 --> 00:41:01,382 They wanted "Downtown Manhattan" imaging. 592 00:41:01,508 --> 00:41:07,382 They needed a person who led the audience through this world. 593 00:41:09,153 --> 00:41:12,653 Jean Michelle Basquiat wanted that person would want to be. 594 00:41:12,767 --> 00:41:17,029 To be an artist and you Political slogans sprayed on walls ... 595 00:41:17,129 --> 00:41:19,751 It is pretty cool. 596 00:41:20,793 --> 00:41:23,526 "I've got your brand Pressing the world. " 597 00:41:23,626 --> 00:41:26,376 "And it has left its mark on me." 598 00:41:27,606 --> 00:41:29,402 "I'm a writer," ... 599 00:41:29,502 --> 00:41:32,114 "But sometimes I feel as I wrote. " 600 00:41:32,214 --> 00:41:36,396 "You see that guy over there?" they say "... "It's just a number. 601 00:41:36,591 --> 00:41:43,009 I'm not sure that I Basquiat You can talk without being emotional. 602 00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:48,158 If he was still alive then he became 49 this year. 603 00:41:49,585 --> 00:41:53,085 "Here you have to think big only survival ". 604 00:41:53,476 --> 00:41:57,372 "It can be a jungle, or a paradise." 605 00:41:57,472 --> 00:42:04,730 The project was created in 1980 and nothing This was a few years ago. 606 00:42:05,038 --> 00:42:08,538 Very cold long days of filming ... 607 00:42:08,704 --> 00:42:12,204 The director must wait because who shot in the can. 608 00:42:12,855 --> 00:42:17,879 There was a political scandal going on and they did the money supply. 609 00:42:18,602 --> 00:42:21,402 Then we have 20 years No film made. 610 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:28,479 This fact shows how New York looked like. 611 00:42:29,068 --> 00:42:33,176 I felt that we have to do something with this movement because I felt ... 612 00:42:33,276 --> 00:42:37,698 It would not stay long. And I was right. 613 00:42:43,278 --> 00:42:46,776 New York energetic atmosphere She was so contagious ... 614 00:42:46,876 --> 00:42:49,213 that it affected everything. 615 00:42:49,388 --> 00:42:53,283 You have been there in a hurry. Everything had to happen right now. 616 00:42:53,383 --> 00:42:56,133 Once you have an idea You brought it right out. 617 00:42:57,663 --> 00:43:01,935 Otherwise, she lived one street away. 618 00:43:02,035 --> 00:43:05,360 So I knew him as someone from the neighborhood. 619 00:43:05,460 --> 00:43:08,332 And when did this movie about the Nazis ... 620 00:43:08,432 --> 00:43:10,741 which appeared in the "Long Island" ... 621 00:43:10,841 --> 00:43:13,273 I was very disappointed I did not play a role. 622 00:43:13,373 --> 00:43:15,753 "They act like real Americans." 623 00:43:15,853 --> 00:43:19,628 "If they're not drunk They buy clothes, "... 624 00:43:19,728 --> 00:43:22,478 "Or they spend their time disgusting woman. 625 00:43:22,939 --> 00:43:26,788 "Of all these decadence I need on my neck. " 626 00:43:28,301 --> 00:43:31,801 Otherwise Graf did Trom Long Island Four "... 627 00:43:32,085 --> 00:43:35,585 and she died shortly thereafter in a traffic accident. 628 00:43:35,803 --> 00:43:38,716 Otherwise, it was a great filmmaker. 629 00:43:38,816 --> 00:43:42,651 His death was a huge blow. 630 00:43:42,751 --> 00:43:45,835 In this period it was about survival. 631 00:43:46,294 --> 00:43:49,287 They had to fight for it to allow for the production of films. 632 00:43:49,387 --> 00:43:54,050 It was a new style of film but with sharp edges, unpolished. 633 00:43:54,236 --> 00:43:58,133 I just wanted radical so extreme film I could. 634 00:43:58,233 --> 00:44:01,705 I had no idea who film would look like ... 635 00:44:01,805 --> 00:44:04,593 or it is even someone look. 636 00:44:06,824 --> 00:44:12,794 There was extraordinary nihilists air. 637 00:44:13,017 --> 00:44:15,817 and that was my motivation at the time. 638 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,641 "Put that thing away. You've seen too many movies. " 639 00:44:19,741 --> 00:44:22,216 "Take it! Come on, take it." 640 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,274 'Come on. Entertains us both a favor. " 641 00:44:27,087 --> 00:44:28,872 It was a different time. 642 00:44:28,972 --> 00:44:31,402 Much more cynical time. 643 00:44:31,502 --> 00:44:34,210 Economics, politics, end of the war ... 644 00:44:34,310 --> 00:44:37,750 the beginning of the Reagan era. It made people angry. 645 00:44:37,850 --> 00:44:40,923 We wanted to turn everything upside down. 646 00:44:46,115 --> 00:44:49,671 There were many different films he did, but what I did ... 647 00:44:49,771 --> 00:44:52,464 He was more political. 648 00:44:53,677 --> 00:44:57,439 "Born In Flames" was born The idea that I'm different ... 649 00:44:57,539 --> 00:45:01,353 types of people would be able to meet, white and black women together. 650 00:45:02,345 --> 00:45:06,511 I wish people of different languages spoken, uniting under one vision. 651 00:45:09,098 --> 00:45:13,241 In all the films I've made I wanted a female ... 652 00:45:13,341 --> 00:45:17,213 position presented. As most movies only ... 653 00:45:17,313 --> 00:45:19,296 male positions represented. 654 00:45:19,396 --> 00:45:22,426 "We have the false promises Too long to hear. " 655 00:45:22,526 --> 00:45:24,634 "We are all equal could be '... 656 00:45:24,734 --> 00:45:26,784 "The social democracy." 657 00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:29,659 "As the rich get richer" ... 658 00:45:30,204 --> 00:45:33,700 "A waiting weapons dreams that never come true. " 659 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,333 That began to change. 660 00:45:35,433 --> 00:45:39,583 These women had to do something So they started with peaceful demonstrations ... 661 00:45:39,794 --> 00:45:43,197 until one of them is killed. 662 00:45:43,297 --> 00:45:47,504 That is suppressed and therefore should They capture the radio station. 663 00:45:47,604 --> 00:45:53,068 World Trade Center transmitter literally check everything. 664 00:45:53,169 --> 00:45:57,091 We went all the way up and on the roof, and we hid ... 665 00:45:57,191 --> 00:46:00,678 What looked like a real bomb, and nobody stopped us. 666 00:46:01,698 --> 00:46:05,166 I had a budget of $ 200 and finally found ... 667 00:46:05,266 --> 00:46:09,050 someone who is a model of WTC had built. I blew glitter from ... 668 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,590 straw, and film Slowly off ... 669 00:46:12,690 --> 00:46:14,740 it looked like an explosion. 670 00:46:17,235 --> 00:46:21,388 It's a strange feeling I Thus, the movie ended, he knew what ... 671 00:46:21,488 --> 00:46:26,310 WTC happened and loss that I feel about it. 672 00:46:26,745 --> 00:46:29,715 Narrative films do not the most important. 673 00:46:29,815 --> 00:46:32,545 But the politically radical films production was. 674 00:46:32,645 --> 00:46:35,424 Moviemaking deep He entered in this case. 675 00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:39,699 It was a time of "Baader Meinhof" and the Red Brigades. 676 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:46,234 Political groups in the time of these films Scott and Beth B and inspired me. 677 00:46:50,175 --> 00:46:54,014 When Beth and I started working together We made the film "G-Man". 678 00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:57,319 We have a different type of film Creation of forests. 679 00:46:57,564 --> 00:47:02,039 Bill's character worked with E.O.D. But in his spare time ... 680 00:47:02,139 --> 00:47:04,189 SM went to the club. 681 00:47:05,422 --> 00:47:09,772 In this period planted Faln bombs in USA 682 00:47:09,932 --> 00:47:18,317 It was important that people by pushing the nose on facts. 683 00:47:18,822 --> 00:47:22,322 "What can we do to make it stop terrorism? " 684 00:47:22,884 --> 00:47:26,384 "We have terrorism iron fist to suppress. 685 00:47:26,553 --> 00:47:29,058 Scott and I have worked as a team. 686 00:47:29,578 --> 00:47:34,008 We did everything together: music, writing, photography. 687 00:47:34,133 --> 00:47:37,633 Beth is a waitress in "Maggoo is' and I stole my lunch there. 688 00:47:37,797 --> 00:47:41,039 Two of us were a good combination. 689 00:47:41,139 --> 00:47:44,288 "We are specialists in Managing Stress ". 690 00:47:44,453 --> 00:47:48,553 Lydia had the "G-Man" and wanted to see The show at Max's Kansas City. 691 00:47:48,653 --> 00:47:51,143 So we said, 'we do a new film. 692 00:47:51,243 --> 00:47:56,848 "We are not interested in the law. The idea is what is important. " 693 00:47:57,151 --> 00:48:01,401 "We will destroy our enemies himself, we will change them. " 694 00:48:01,919 --> 00:48:05,926 "Black Box" was based on Torture Americans ... 695 00:48:06,026 --> 00:48:08,076 Vietnam uses. 696 00:48:08,846 --> 00:48:13,436 Because it is only Max Club was screened, you could be the public ... 697 00:48:13,536 --> 00:48:15,546 Indeed bombing shocking images. 698 00:48:15,646 --> 00:48:18,744 We heard that someone Hall ran to surrender. 699 00:48:18,844 --> 00:48:24,289 With the proceeds we could get our first long film, "perpetrators". 700 00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:36,859 In the spirit of "cans and everything, anything goes, "we decided to ... 701 00:48:36,959 --> 00:48:39,409 You are using a public television channel. 702 00:48:39,509 --> 00:48:44,260 You were right in people's homes. We did a lot of good show. 703 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,445 Were you Glenn O'Brien's TV Party which had its own will. 704 00:48:47,890 --> 00:48:49,710 "It's a real show!" 705 00:48:51,820 --> 00:48:53,920 "This is an emergency broadcast!" 706 00:48:55,412 --> 00:48:59,142 "All Color News" was the show Beth and Scott B. 707 00:48:59,242 --> 00:49:01,986 And it was a joint project. 708 00:49:02,086 --> 00:49:04,817 Collab consisted of a group of artists ... 709 00:49:04,917 --> 00:49:08,501 He wanted to make these films together cast and magazines ... 710 00:49:08,601 --> 00:49:10,672 and doing TV shows. 711 00:49:10,772 --> 00:49:14,445 And art shows in places This was normal to see the art. 712 00:49:14,545 --> 00:49:17,307 Asked "Time Square Art Show "together. 713 00:49:17,407 --> 00:49:21,869 A question that many their breakthrough artists. 714 00:49:21,969 --> 00:49:29,055 It was an attempt by these ideas the East Village art ghetto to push ... 715 00:49:29,155 --> 00:49:33,925 We took over the empty building, The landlord gave us free. 716 00:49:34,075 --> 00:49:38,507 It was on the cover of "Village Voice" as radical 80s art show. 717 00:49:38,607 --> 00:49:41,257 There I met Charlie Ahearn first. 718 00:49:41,357 --> 00:49:43,947 I left "The Deadly Art survival you see that ... 719 00:49:44,063 --> 00:49:47,307 It was part of that A whole movement to get away ... 720 00:49:47,407 --> 00:49:53,887 the art world and movies to come closer to reality. 721 00:49:54,157 --> 00:49:58,727 When I decided to lower East Side to start shooting ... 722 00:49:58,827 --> 00:50:01,577 I had no film crew. 723 00:50:01,702 --> 00:50:03,802 So I was practically invisible. 724 00:50:04,906 --> 00:50:08,662 I came into contact with KungFu school and ask ... 725 00:50:08,822 --> 00:50:11,542 if I wanted to make a film with them. 726 00:50:11,642 --> 00:50:15,852 Like all karate movies you Good versus bad schools. 727 00:50:15,952 --> 00:50:18,686 A poor school was called "Disco Dojo. 728 00:50:18,786 --> 00:50:22,227 A sold drugs from Disco Dojo. 729 00:50:25,817 --> 00:50:29,267 Poster for "Deadly Art of Survival "is really ... 730 00:50:29,367 --> 00:50:32,397 looks cool Underground film. 731 00:50:32,497 --> 00:50:35,947 When I met Charlie and he He wanted to get together. 732 00:50:36,517 --> 00:50:39,317 And there was a film "Wild Style". 733 00:50:39,842 --> 00:50:43,342 It was something new which for the future. 734 00:50:56,165 --> 00:51:04,087 Wild Style was huge A new movement in New York ... 735 00:51:04,187 --> 00:51:09,117 And how to reflect It was a difficult problem. 736 00:51:09,422 --> 00:51:15,037 Various street culture; graffiti, music, breakdancing, DJing ... 737 00:51:15,137 --> 00:51:18,127 Film it all together. 738 00:51:18,236 --> 00:51:23,032 Charlie did before the film went He went to a lot of "jams" in the Bronx ... 739 00:51:23,154 --> 00:51:28,667 meet people. DJ in the movie was a real DJ. 740 00:51:28,767 --> 00:51:32,973 Not actors, but real graffiti artists. 741 00:51:33,162 --> 00:51:37,752 I saw it as a movie that would be seen on 42nd Street. 742 00:51:37,852 --> 00:51:40,602 This meant that the music He had to be good ... 743 00:51:40,932 --> 00:51:45,176 It had to have a good story and good camera work. 744 00:51:47,412 --> 00:51:51,612 To "Wild Style", embedded seen stand Theater on 42nd Street ... 745 00:51:51,887 --> 00:51:53,947 It was fantastic for everyone involved. 746 00:51:54,047 --> 00:51:56,922 We have many other types of records broken for Time Square cinema. 747 00:51:57,022 --> 00:52:03,112 It was the second most popular film Terms of Endearment was number one. 748 00:52:13,129 --> 00:52:17,667 We did a presentation on 'The Mudclub "and They brought all these different people are shown. 749 00:52:20,462 --> 00:52:27,697 People from the Bronx, Harlem, Blooklyn Blacks and Hispanics with Punks and new wave. 750 00:52:27,832 --> 00:52:31,332 All those different people were For the first time together. 751 00:52:32,117 --> 00:52:37,372 Punk came from a lack of money and the same was true for Hip Hop. 752 00:52:37,497 --> 00:52:42,852 Pattie Astor and Charlie were the first of the group Lower Eastside ... 753 00:52:42,952 --> 00:52:46,402 That were inspired What happened in the city. 754 00:52:46,537 --> 00:52:49,722 Pattie brought him into the Lower Eastside in "Fun gallery. 755 00:52:49,822 --> 00:52:53,881 "I look for graffiti artists. - We all graffiti artists. 756 00:52:54,025 --> 00:52:59,177 Pattie had a small room in the basement and building on 11nd Street. 757 00:52:59,277 --> 00:53:04,412 She knew that many artists He looked at the exhibition space. 758 00:53:04,615 --> 00:53:06,715 "Can not these guys." 759 00:53:07,452 --> 00:53:10,241 "What do they propose? Artists? " 760 00:53:11,929 --> 00:53:14,029 "I do not care arts." 761 00:53:15,247 --> 00:53:17,347 "Does it mean anything?" 762 00:53:18,555 --> 00:53:22,153 'Do not worry. It is a party ". 763 00:53:22,907 --> 00:53:27,816 2 years after he started Galery Fun There were 100 galleries in the East Village. 764 00:53:27,916 --> 00:53:32,078 The gallery was in someone's bathroom. 765 00:53:32,178 --> 00:53:36,807 I was a firefighter in Little Italy and the fire stopped ... 766 00:53:36,907 --> 00:53:40,357 for the gallery and I brought it Guests inside. 767 00:53:40,547 --> 00:53:45,615 We went to a lot of holes and survived free food. 768 00:53:45,715 --> 00:53:49,275 Many galleries started well turn and became mainstream. 769 00:53:49,375 --> 00:53:55,087 Wall Street did well, art World grew, and money began to roll. 770 00:54:00,150 --> 00:54:03,007 Jean-Michel Basquiat was the guy who slept on my floor ... 771 00:54:03,107 --> 00:54:06,247 we had a lot of fun. And then suddenly he became very wealthy. 772 00:54:06,347 --> 00:54:08,887 And he changed the situation: 773 00:54:08,987 --> 00:54:13,182 If you have no money'm not cool. Before that it was the opposite. 774 00:54:14,017 --> 00:54:16,107 Before that, I still hate him. 775 00:54:16,207 --> 00:54:19,257 Given that messed up mentality a lot of things. 776 00:54:19,671 --> 00:54:25,849 When Jean-Michel was successful Many people associated warned. 777 00:54:25,949 --> 00:54:29,672 Maybe it's time to coin shop in our success. 778 00:54:31,237 --> 00:54:34,351 "Vortex" It was my breakthrough. 779 00:54:34,451 --> 00:54:40,357 Beth and Scott asked me to role and one after another. 780 00:54:43,047 --> 00:54:48,237 For me it was the start of something new, something bigger. 781 00:54:48,467 --> 00:54:49,227 It looked fantastic. 782 00:54:49,327 --> 00:54:51,134 "Hey, little angel." 783 00:54:52,376 --> 00:54:54,239 "It's been too long." 784 00:54:54,448 --> 00:54:56,548 "Yes? Not long enough for me." 785 00:54:57,052 --> 00:55:01,715 It was much more expensive and expectations were higher. 786 00:55:01,892 --> 00:55:05,392 It was implicated in what happened to me personally. 787 00:55:05,606 --> 00:55:07,426 "I can not talk right now." 788 00:55:10,573 --> 00:55:12,393 "I'll call you back." 789 00:55:13,042 --> 00:55:18,645 Then he went to Scott and Beth B although apart hostile. 790 00:55:18,745 --> 00:55:21,668 It was the last film that Scott and I They did together and ... 791 00:55:21,768 --> 00:55:27,062 Production was difficult because We could not work together properly. 792 00:55:27,938 --> 00:55:29,983 Although the film attracted much attention. 793 00:55:30,083 --> 00:55:34,337 "People like us can depending on the lifetime of the system. 794 00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:38,699 "And if you're against the system the work that you were there. " 795 00:55:39,168 --> 00:55:41,953 Vortex played at many film festivals. 796 00:55:42,053 --> 00:55:47,678 And it got more attention than Other films that came when New York. 797 00:55:49,710 --> 00:55:51,810 "Where do you want to live in L.A.?" 798 00:55:55,033 --> 00:55:56,433 "Malibu". 799 00:55:57,100 --> 00:56:00,279 "It's in L.A.? - Is there someplace. " 800 00:56:01,593 --> 00:56:07,743 People go in different directions Depending on where the first film is brought. 801 00:56:07,959 --> 00:56:13,626 Smithereens was the first of the "Down Town" films that were screened at the Cannes Film Festival. 802 00:56:13,726 --> 00:56:16,678 This led to the production 'Desperately Seeking Susan'. 803 00:56:16,778 --> 00:56:24,868 Smithereens and Stranger Than Paradise and Spike Lee took the things that make us ... 804 00:56:24,968 --> 00:56:27,823 He moved a culture where we belong and they knew good stories to tell ... 805 00:56:27,923 --> 00:56:30,008 and how could return to a broad audience. 806 00:56:30,108 --> 00:56:35,053 When we Stranger Than Paradise I told John Lurrie, you know ... 807 00:56:35,153 --> 00:56:40,003 nobody has ever seen this movie so let we make the film we wanted ourselves. 808 00:56:48,466 --> 00:56:51,271 "Hi, I'm Eva. 809 00:56:51,371 --> 00:56:52,764 "Yes, unfortunately. 810 00:56:53,083 --> 00:56:54,652 "You Bela?" 811 00:56:56,047 --> 00:56:57,167 "No". 812 00:56:58,509 --> 00:57:01,309 "So I called earlier. Call me Willie. " 813 00:57:04,632 --> 00:57:09,492 "Not speaking Hungarian. As long as you're here to speak only English. " 814 00:57:09,658 --> 00:57:13,078 The first part I produced a short film based on the ... 815 00:57:13,178 --> 00:57:15,743 a story that John and I He wrote together. 816 00:57:15,843 --> 00:57:19,133 I was with the band workout when we came up with the story together. 817 00:57:19,233 --> 00:57:22,683 I play a gambler and Hungarian No one can know my background ... 818 00:57:23,138 --> 00:57:25,298 and then my niece comes to me. 819 00:57:25,398 --> 00:57:29,792 When I made the film was cut "Moviola machine ', I thought, two ... 820 00:57:29,892 --> 00:57:33,994 other bits make it make a feature film. 821 00:57:34,094 --> 00:57:36,831 We shot the first half hour for the weekend ... 822 00:57:36,931 --> 00:57:43,148 and we had a fight with a person who $ 7,000 paid for the first half hour ... 823 00:57:43,458 --> 00:57:47,626 and he was jailed, and the negative I stole a 35 mm copy of the negative ... 824 00:57:47,726 --> 00:57:52,288 from his office under my raincoat. There I was rather proud. 825 00:57:52,678 --> 00:57:55,373 At a time when money was finish the film ... 826 00:57:55,473 --> 00:57:57,493 I got a role as a saint the last temptation of Christ ... 827 00:57:57,593 --> 00:57:59,908 so I had a big beard to cultivate. 828 00:58:00,008 --> 00:58:04,363 Those who were not shaved in Jim's movie game, I wanted to work with Scorsese. 829 00:58:04,463 --> 00:58:07,213 But Scorsese matter was postponed. 830 00:58:07,938 --> 00:58:10,673 It took us one and a half year to get the money together ... 831 00:58:10,773 --> 00:58:14,223 So Eszter Balint, girl games, going 16-18 ... 832 00:58:14,323 --> 00:58:16,472 the last part of the film. 833 00:58:16,572 --> 00:58:19,286 I could Eszter from its 14th 834 00:58:19,386 --> 00:58:22,639 I often got into a squat theater. 835 00:58:22,839 --> 00:58:28,068 It consisted of a group of Hungarian New experimental theater artists who did it ... 836 00:58:28,168 --> 00:58:30,018 who all lived together in a house. 837 00:58:30,118 --> 00:58:32,844 They had a pawnshop on 23rd Street. 838 00:58:32,944 --> 00:58:37,227 People from window They were unwittingly part of the event. 839 00:58:38,994 --> 00:58:41,094 Eszter so I knew that. 840 00:58:43,089 --> 00:58:45,889 Richard Edson I knew but not good. 841 00:58:46,512 --> 00:58:50,649 He was the drummer of Sonic Youth. 842 00:58:50,822 --> 00:58:55,091 John (Lurie) and I were friends. 843 00:58:55,417 --> 00:58:58,217 Rockets played Redglare smaller roles with him. 844 00:58:58,365 --> 00:59:01,165 It's just all been noted. 845 00:59:10,194 --> 00:59:13,694 We had just enough film 1½ insists on the scene. 846 00:59:14,303 --> 00:59:17,803 If someone got the flu It would be the end of the film. 847 00:59:41,225 --> 00:59:46,536 After "Stranger" was released ... I was here very poor, but suddenly famous. 848 00:59:46,951 --> 00:59:49,751 It was a difficult period for me, though. 849 00:59:52,645 --> 00:59:56,624 If you like "Stranger Than Paradise" was You have to look at real cinema ... 850 00:59:56,724 --> 00:59:58,670 and you had to stand in line. 851 00:59:58,770 --> 01:00:00,492 It played in. 852 01:00:00,592 --> 01:00:01,713 It was a transition. 853 01:00:01,813 --> 01:00:04,552 The film reached a wider audience. 854 01:00:04,652 --> 01:00:06,460 It was written on. 855 01:00:11,494 --> 01:00:15,057 Independent film community grew. 856 01:00:15,157 --> 01:00:19,585 Films like "Stranger Than Paradise" and "Variety" and Charlie 'Wild Style'. 857 01:00:19,940 --> 01:00:23,456 We thought to make more films. 858 01:00:23,556 --> 01:00:25,953 Work on the edge of Hollywood. 859 01:00:26,053 --> 01:00:33,769 When the media received through what It happened began to disintegrate. 860 01:00:33,869 --> 01:00:37,635 There was a large group on weekends People in the New Cinema. 861 01:00:37,735 --> 01:00:40,355 The landlord said, "deserves a lot of money now "... 862 01:00:40,455 --> 01:00:43,905 and we were able to increase paying rent. So it was closed. 863 01:00:44,945 --> 01:00:50,415 "White King" played with David Lynch's "Eraser Head. 864 01:00:50,905 --> 01:00:56,720 I was invited to parties with John Belushi and this kind of guests. 865 01:00:56,855 --> 01:01:01,940 And I was totally seduced and all my values ​​went out the window. 866 01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:08,565 "Underground USA" was about the fall of the '70s superstars. 867 01:01:09,130 --> 01:01:14,020 It was a commentary on the rise and fall of my contemporaries. 868 01:01:15,475 --> 01:01:18,975 It was like a snowball but still grew. 869 01:01:20,575 --> 01:01:24,075 Economic aspect changed Rents went up. 870 01:01:24,335 --> 01:01:27,795 A "Celebrity Culture" began change in sample ... 871 01:01:27,895 --> 01:01:29,955 that it is today. 872 01:01:30,955 --> 01:01:36,100 Power was again the scene is to be pumped. 873 01:01:36,415 --> 01:01:39,215 The scene became too complacent. 874 01:01:44,715 --> 01:01:48,805 Ideas were mixed with new ideas New people ... 875 01:01:48,905 --> 01:01:51,655 It remained to continue But this has changed. 876 01:01:52,090 --> 01:01:57,645 "Cinema transgression" was harder and more sex and drugs-oriented ... 877 01:01:57,820 --> 01:02:00,570 and it was a natural progression. 878 01:02:00,670 --> 01:02:04,780 I think "Kino offense" "No Wave" movement saw it happen ... 879 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,640 and they took them. 880 01:02:13,900 --> 01:02:19,431 It was Nick's idea. You had otherwise you will forget the title. 881 01:02:24,531 --> 01:02:29,951 The idea of ​​"They Eat Scum" come from how the media demonizes Punk Rock. 882 01:02:30,381 --> 01:02:37,821 I thought, what if I write the script one still nihilistischere youth ... 883 01:02:38,371 --> 01:02:44,911 and in case that the group for nuclear power plants He goes and causes an accident like ... 884 01:02:45,011 --> 01:02:49,396 terrorist attack. And so the whole Field radiation. 885 01:02:57,001 --> 01:03:00,401 Amos Poe arrived at the premiere along with John Waters. 886 01:03:00,516 --> 01:03:03,881 The whole idea that I was crazy. "They Eat Scum" is still ... 887 01:03:03,981 --> 01:03:06,731 One of my most Favorite movie titles ever. 888 01:03:07,246 --> 01:03:12,406 Wall Street Journal called it goorste movie ever made. 889 01:03:12,506 --> 01:03:14,251 "Please do something to stop it!" 890 01:03:14,351 --> 01:03:21,057 And I found those negative attention and indignation absolutely crazy. 891 01:03:22,377 --> 01:03:26,417 In 1984, I met Richard Kern and Tommy Turner ... 892 01:03:26,552 --> 01:03:28,457 Super-8 films made. 893 01:03:28,557 --> 01:03:33,707 I found that rebirth Super-8 was important. 894 01:03:33,957 --> 01:03:38,157 And the time is ripe for "Cinema Make an offense "to the world. 895 01:03:38,511 --> 01:03:41,791 He took other filmmakers on board These films were made on a wall as p ... 896 01:03:41,891 --> 01:03:45,548 David, Casandra Stark, Lung Leg. 897 01:03:46,627 --> 01:03:50,099 And he wrote a manifesto another name and published it ... 898 01:03:50,199 --> 01:03:52,270 the number of film magazines. 899 01:03:54,890 --> 01:04:00,018 Nick ZED manifesto is full anger and humor. 900 01:04:01,055 --> 01:04:03,155 A desire to do something new. 901 01:04:04,198 --> 01:04:10,295 Then it really started to Motion look. 902 01:04:10,971 --> 01:04:15,922 We tried to make movies mullet came, short and full of action. 903 01:04:16,378 --> 01:04:19,878 It was straightforward and "Here I Am" to be. 904 01:04:39,139 --> 01:04:44,159 Anyone who has driven do more extreme things. 905 01:04:44,443 --> 01:04:48,357 If you would like to do something than if. 906 01:04:48,698 --> 01:04:51,395 There could be a lot. 907 01:04:51,903 --> 01:04:56,710 I did what in those days which I would never dare to do ... 908 01:04:56,810 --> 01:04:59,560 for fear of being arrested. 909 01:05:00,145 --> 01:05:05,887 The content varies from No Wave films but the origin is the same. 910 01:05:05,987 --> 01:05:09,980 The same confrontational stuff making Beth and I did. 911 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,880 They created there The whole movement around it. 912 01:05:13,185 --> 01:05:18,370 I am trying to push the boundaries and elicit a response. 913 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,780 Scott B and B had Beth A great influence on my filmmaking. 914 01:05:25,380 --> 01:05:28,635 And I made my first film with their super-8 camera. 915 01:05:28,735 --> 01:05:34,415 Beth and Scott had just divorced and Beth went with a friend ... ... 916 01:05:34,515 --> 01:05:36,600 No, she went with Nick Zedd. 917 01:05:40,595 --> 01:05:42,890 It was a group of people who all lived in central New York ... 918 01:05:42,990 --> 01:05:46,988 so they had relationships and then She broke again and went with someone else. 919 01:05:47,088 --> 01:05:50,541 But it's funny, or Cinema Transgression was Nick ... 920 01:05:50,641 --> 01:05:54,131 intentionally threw oil on the fire with all those relationships. 921 01:05:54,341 --> 01:05:58,541 He was dropped by Lydia Lunch and He made a film about being dumped by Lydia. 922 01:06:00,936 --> 01:06:03,036 Lydia took to London. 923 01:06:03,391 --> 01:06:08,371 And what came out there was a film Wild World of Lydia Lunch. 924 01:06:09,296 --> 01:06:14,596 I wanted to capture this moment on film. 925 01:06:17,776 --> 01:06:21,926 The film was, I walk the streets with "fuck off and leave me alone" ... 926 01:06:22,026 --> 01:06:26,176 tape I sent him as the soundtrack. I was not happy about it. 927 01:06:34,576 --> 01:06:38,076 But I always had respect for Nick. It was a great writer. 928 01:06:38,301 --> 01:06:40,751 Just had such a negative The air around him. 929 01:06:40,851 --> 01:06:44,051 As if suddenly a huge factor entered. People fled. 930 01:06:44,151 --> 01:06:46,901 Even though he did nothing people hated him. 931 01:06:47,201 --> 01:06:49,301 I always intimidated. 932 01:06:49,566 --> 01:06:55,821 But to see him on the projector booth with a smile, it was really touching. 933 01:07:03,561 --> 01:07:08,536 I thought, "Thrust in Me", which I a woman and a man playing. 934 01:07:08,966 --> 01:07:11,759 I was hoping to offend people with him. 935 01:07:11,859 --> 01:07:16,631 Posters for the film, which I liked Woman pictured standing has been damaged. 936 01:07:16,746 --> 01:07:19,546 And that was exactly the reaction I was hoping for. 937 01:07:19,796 --> 01:07:21,896 I wanted to offend homophobes. 938 01:07:22,421 --> 01:07:25,221 Nick plays so that he sex himself. 939 01:07:25,571 --> 01:07:27,669 And then commits suicide. 940 01:07:27,769 --> 01:07:32,046 I worked on 'The Manhattan Love Suicide "and thought it fit him. 941 01:07:32,721 --> 01:07:37,796 Manhattan Love Suicides Deals people are so crazy about each other ... 942 01:07:37,896 --> 01:07:39,914 they kill. 943 01:07:40,014 --> 01:07:44,976 Richard Kern heard my music and He asked if it could be used for the film. 944 01:07:50,081 --> 01:07:54,066 Without a budget, the work of a film They were funny, but the emotion ... 945 01:07:54,166 --> 01:07:58,971 so more than he did. 946 01:07:59,231 --> 01:08:02,031 It was on the top, Almost Dada-istic. 947 01:08:04,001 --> 01:08:07,464 Richards films are all funny film about sex. 948 01:08:07,564 --> 01:08:11,026 Very funny and politically courageous films about sex. 949 01:08:11,986 --> 01:08:17,856 People wore ideas and It is like a snapshot of the time. 950 01:08:18,771 --> 01:08:22,271 He said, I turn on the camera and you do what you want. 951 01:08:22,646 --> 01:08:31,056 You had this new generation this gave insight into their sexual feelings. 952 01:08:31,441 --> 01:08:37,636 And it was fun, adventurous, and extremely hot. 953 01:08:43,441 --> 01:08:46,241 Lydia was someone worshiped from afar. 954 01:08:46,831 --> 01:08:50,331 Richard and I felt onmoette he was really on. 955 01:08:50,851 --> 01:08:53,651 Our partnership felt so natural. 956 01:09:03,861 --> 01:09:07,046 The right side of my brain was my question for the ... 957 01:09:07,146 --> 01:09:09,431 confident woman mind. 958 01:09:09,531 --> 01:09:11,581 It was purely instinctive. 959 01:09:11,986 --> 01:09:14,786 And now Richard exactly what I wanted. 960 01:09:15,646 --> 01:09:19,146 Lydia had "sketches" a couple He wrote and asked if I ... 961 01:09:19,326 --> 01:09:23,011 He wanted to act in one of his scenes. 962 01:09:24,456 --> 01:09:27,921 I had the "right side of my brain Made Lydia and people like ... 963 01:09:28,021 --> 01:09:31,181 pornographic and sexist. 964 01:09:31,281 --> 01:09:34,261 And I said, wait until you see the next film. 965 01:09:34,361 --> 01:09:37,811 We try to be as offensive How is it possible. 966 01:09:45,956 --> 01:09:49,436 I "Fingered" I saw Lydia Lunch. 967 01:09:49,536 --> 01:09:52,816 This was one of the most awesome, funny ... 968 01:09:52,916 --> 01:09:56,366 scary and strange movie I have ever seen. 969 01:09:59,041 --> 01:10:01,916 It's a deadline verknaller psychotics. 970 01:10:02,016 --> 01:10:05,401 If you were dating and married his girlfriend to "Fingered" and she said ... 971 01:10:05,511 --> 01:10:10,421 the film was a gift. Then you know that You can expect to have sex. But what kind of sex? 972 01:10:10,576 --> 01:10:15,091 The right side of my brain and were Fingered psycho therapy for the public. 973 01:10:15,191 --> 01:10:20,276 Since no one at the time, about this kind of love for anxiety. 974 01:10:21,356 --> 01:10:23,611 It was the expansion of gewelddagige. 975 01:10:23,766 --> 01:10:28,166 Fueled riots, Charles Manson The Son of Sam. 976 01:10:28,336 --> 01:10:31,136 And I designed the trauma out. 977 01:10:35,041 --> 01:10:37,364 You will be beaten and then turn your back. 978 01:10:37,464 --> 01:10:39,556 The name sounds like a porno film. 979 01:10:39,656 --> 01:10:43,996 But it was the intention of the people let despise sex. 980 01:10:45,021 --> 01:10:47,821 It was actually "anti-porn. 981 01:10:55,731 --> 01:11:00,551 We showed what we themselves were not so shocking ... 982 01:11:00,651 --> 01:11:03,401 But people feel really offended. 983 01:11:03,686 --> 01:11:05,936 "Fingers" bait really whistling outside. 984 01:11:06,036 --> 01:11:06,816 "Fingered" as realistic. 985 01:11:06,916 --> 01:11:08,966 It seemed like a snuff film. 986 01:11:09,751 --> 01:11:12,581 I do not think they ever trust snuff movies are made, but ... 987 01:11:12,681 --> 01:11:15,431 It contributed to Explicit of those films. 988 01:11:15,901 --> 01:11:18,701 It at every moment something Grof could really happen. 989 01:11:21,011 --> 01:11:25,211 Shocking was really important because it helped people wake up. 990 01:11:26,546 --> 01:11:31,366 I was invited to the Berlin Film Festival show "Fingered". It was the premiere. 991 01:11:31,466 --> 01:11:33,771 He was portrayed with John Waters film, and yet ... 992 01:11:33,871 --> 01:11:36,621 Before the shooting hearing Those Boos. 993 01:11:37,901 --> 01:11:42,069 I went to the podium and said: This film was made for people like you. 994 01:11:42,169 --> 01:11:43,536 DEATH TRAP! 995 01:11:44,056 --> 01:11:47,026 The rest went projections from chaotic there. 996 01:11:47,126 --> 01:11:49,806 But I came there On the front of the "Variety". 997 01:11:49,906 --> 01:11:53,366 After they are beaten screening of the reaction. 998 01:11:53,471 --> 01:11:56,271 It's not applause, but opposite. 999 01:11:56,556 --> 01:11:59,356 The worst thing would be if no one did anything. 1000 01:11:59,456 --> 01:12:02,906 I was invited to Sweden arrive at the airport and ... 1001 01:12:03,006 --> 01:12:08,011 I was arrested Police because I did movies with me. 1002 01:12:08,596 --> 01:12:12,901 I was put in a cell for a while They studied my films. 1003 01:12:13,521 --> 01:12:18,126 I was told that I was three years He can get the production of these films. 1004 01:12:18,676 --> 01:12:23,446 When he discovered my lawyer scrambled Authorities already back ... 1005 01:12:24,061 --> 01:12:26,861 But I was not movies exhibit in Sweden. 1006 01:12:27,681 --> 01:12:32,081 So I took my movies and showed them in Sweden. 1007 01:12:32,751 --> 01:12:38,906 To protest against art and film It is absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. 1008 01:12:39,636 --> 01:12:46,616 It's always nice to work with Richard because it has so much fun in his work. 1009 01:12:46,726 --> 01:12:50,226 Sometimes, the camera shaking as he laughing so hard. 1010 01:12:50,831 --> 01:12:53,631 He's a little erratic version Clark Kent. 1011 01:12:54,216 --> 01:12:57,716 People had image in a bad filmmaker. 1012 01:12:58,501 --> 01:13:02,001 I made 'Evil Cameraman "as the answer to those comments ... 1013 01:13:02,431 --> 01:13:04,531 these people had in me. 1014 01:13:06,111 --> 01:13:10,001 I felt at the end of that This could be my own paranoia. 1015 01:13:10,101 --> 01:13:14,801 This can happen, as Warhol film and someone shot me. 1016 01:13:17,841 --> 01:13:20,641 There were violent stigma about the movies. 1017 01:13:21,261 --> 01:13:24,061 But even then circulated There are video copies. 1018 01:13:24,366 --> 01:13:28,566 Lydia said that it is now the new home video is in. We must take advantage. 1019 01:13:29,166 --> 01:13:34,311 So I started these movies on video by mail To sell and it ran storm. 1020 01:13:36,981 --> 01:13:41,386 Richard wanted to do things We never dared with our films. 1021 01:13:41,926 --> 01:13:48,731 But if you then look to mainstream movies Our films are harmless in comparison. 1022 01:13:51,156 --> 01:13:54,656 The culture in which we fought It is now more widely accepted. 1023 01:13:55,276 --> 01:13:58,776 We are now more willing to overlook talking about sex and politics. 1024 01:13:59,991 --> 01:14:05,561 They said that it should not then at the Museum Modern Art, but that soon changed. 1025 01:14:05,661 --> 01:14:07,921 However, it was demonstrated in The Museum of Modern Art. 1026 01:14:08,021 --> 01:14:12,661 When Picasso showed his work It was the first time nothing. 1027 01:14:12,761 --> 01:14:15,207 But now, it is useful arts. 1028 01:14:15,307 --> 01:14:24,167 We worked with a limited budget that freed us from the need to make profits. 1029 01:14:24,626 --> 01:14:34,267 But people who pornography and exploitation of horrors based their decisions on profit expectations. 1030 01:14:35,532 --> 01:14:37,632 That is why our films are sincere. 1031 01:14:37,895 --> 01:14:40,695 Nick Zedd doing it for the money. 1032 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,620 He is not commercial. 1033 01:14:43,590 --> 01:14:47,090 I was attracted by this type of people. 1034 01:14:47,650 --> 01:14:51,150 And if those people have other values It is quite interesting. 1035 01:15:10,255 --> 01:15:12,825 Those filmmakers appeared in a very special time. 1036 01:15:12,925 --> 01:15:16,351 America was the right-hander after Reagan became president. 1037 01:15:16,451 --> 01:15:18,236 Thatcher in England. 1038 01:15:18,336 --> 01:15:21,826 Nick Zedd's film Agreement Cold war and capitalism. 1039 01:15:22,821 --> 01:15:25,621 Especially in the case of "Men Bogus". 1040 01:15:26,437 --> 01:15:28,537 A "War is Mentrual Envy" as. 1041 01:15:34,947 --> 01:15:39,012 Have you been to 80 A the real threat of nuclear war. 1042 01:15:39,112 --> 01:15:40,707 Does it happen or not? 1043 01:15:40,807 --> 01:15:45,862 And that threat can be found at films of the era. 1044 01:15:47,752 --> 01:15:52,613 Many artists thought they would end up behind a high wall ... 1045 01:15:52,912 --> 01:15:55,410 or anytime wiped Such action could. 1046 01:15:55,522 --> 01:15:59,930 They thought that their freedom of expression every moment can end. 1047 01:16:00,038 --> 01:16:07,643 Many right politicie insisted no public funds were spent ... 1048 01:16:07,743 --> 01:16:14,108 for artworks, which are tasteless or considered anti-social. 1049 01:16:14,208 --> 01:16:19,036 It became a sort of Philip K. Dick iaans era in which ... 1050 01:16:19,136 --> 01:16:22,574 It seems that nothing makes sense and everything is unreal. 1051 01:16:22,674 --> 01:16:26,641 Maybe we live in five years on Mars. 1052 01:16:26,748 --> 01:16:30,574 Everything seems like a weird Sci-fi film. 1053 01:16:31,592 --> 01:16:35,510 All great change in America start dinner. 1054 01:16:35,610 --> 01:16:39,060 So I hope that tomorrow night talk while eating ... 1055 01:16:39,247 --> 01:16:44,939 And children, if your parents do not tells how to be a good American ... 1056 01:16:45,039 --> 01:16:47,765 let them know there is a pick up. 1057 01:16:47,865 --> 01:16:50,640 That is what would make a good American. 1058 01:16:50,833 --> 01:16:55,014 "You killed me first" was a big a film about a struggling family. 1059 01:16:55,114 --> 01:16:57,894 Karen Finley, David Wojnarowicz and Lung Leg. 1060 01:16:59,053 --> 01:17:02,520 I tried to shoot mind put down. 1061 01:17:02,620 --> 01:17:06,087 I thought, if I do it, everybody The story has a clear position. 1062 01:17:18,898 --> 01:17:23,769 It's about a family who oppress their daughter and daughter to come back and kill her family. 1063 01:17:23,869 --> 01:17:29,895 "You killed me first 'plays those who preach family values ​​Reagan. 1064 01:17:30,745 --> 01:17:34,228 "You killed me First" was inspired on true stories. 1065 01:17:34,328 --> 01:17:37,810 Most of them were based on David Wojnarowicz's own experience. 1066 01:17:54,148 --> 01:17:56,784 He was attracted to Cinema transgressions ... 1067 01:17:56,884 --> 01:18:01,874 But he was also repelled because he was much more confrontational with ... 1068 01:18:01,974 --> 01:18:06,786 the basic political will, because busy him because of his AIDS related directly. 1069 01:18:06,886 --> 01:18:13,617 He wanted these homophobic, racist Denouncing the government. 1070 01:18:18,357 --> 01:18:21,126 This caused much politically charged art. 1071 01:18:21,226 --> 01:18:24,695 And David Wojnarowicz found on the front line. 1072 01:18:25,085 --> 01:18:30,705 Reagan did everything to investigate AIDS slowdown. 1073 01:18:30,814 --> 01:18:34,314 So knowing that for a long time We have nothing about this disease. 1074 01:18:35,604 --> 01:18:40,777 Klaus Nomi was one of the first who this mysterious disease. 1075 01:18:40,877 --> 01:18:48,478 Suddenly, more and more people are sick or have died ... 1076 01:18:48,578 --> 01:18:50,934 and people started me confide their secrets. 1077 01:18:51,034 --> 01:18:53,950 "Do not tell anyone but I hivpositief. 1078 01:18:54,077 --> 01:18:58,056 A lot of people told me ... 1079 01:18:58,156 --> 01:19:01,508 and one of my brother there. 1080 01:19:03,093 --> 01:19:10,847 So keep these secrets it was very hard for me. 1081 01:19:11,856 --> 01:19:20,190 Because you knew that ... it was like they were in the arena against wall standing, ready to be released. 1082 01:19:21,388 --> 01:19:24,255 Did you see the empty city. 1083 01:19:24,355 --> 01:19:27,797 We do not even know how many We then lost souls. 1084 01:19:27,897 --> 01:19:33,066 It was the general mood where we then lived. 1085 01:19:33,166 --> 01:19:38,205 Life and death are close to each other. 1086 01:19:38,305 --> 01:19:42,836 This happened at the same time as when people have expensive dinners ... 1087 01:19:42,936 --> 01:19:48,717 Andy Warhol in a tent and bottles Crystal left and right on the table ... 1088 01:19:48,845 --> 01:19:52,354 and we drove into the limousine and There you have it Madonna and Keith Haring. 1089 01:19:52,486 --> 01:19:58,171 And then undercurrent of anxiety among all the festivities. 1090 01:20:02,377 --> 01:20:10,000 All who responded to filmmakers economic and social events. 1091 01:20:10,732 --> 01:20:13,532 But they responded very differently. 1092 01:20:14,589 --> 01:20:19,089 It had a magical element. The idea to shoot yourself ... 1093 01:20:19,189 --> 01:20:25,054 And Cassandra made films about Life on the Lower East Side at the time. 1094 01:20:30,630 --> 01:20:34,130 There was a vulnerability innocence in these films. 1095 01:20:34,287 --> 01:20:37,787 A incomprehensible interpretation reality. 1096 01:20:40,677 --> 01:20:46,803 And because I was in love with her I found that quite funny results. 1097 01:20:53,348 --> 01:21:00,562 My landlord had illegally a way to put your name on the document ... 1098 01:21:00,745 --> 01:21:10,390 and the police came to my house and dumped the contents of her wardrobe ... 1099 01:21:10,490 --> 01:21:16,342 in moving boxes and clocks everything was loaded into a truck ... 1100 01:21:16,442 --> 01:21:22,995 a man said to be homeless I'll drive you to sleep? 1101 01:21:23,095 --> 01:21:29,914 Your possessions are in a warehouse in the Bronx Can I take on one of the homeless sleep. 1102 01:21:34,099 --> 01:21:38,611 Landlords put their own buildings on fire for the insurance sum. 1103 01:21:38,711 --> 01:21:42,161 A lot of people were just put on the street. 1104 01:21:42,933 --> 01:21:46,433 This was when the top Lower East Side has been refurbished. 1105 01:21:46,594 --> 01:21:54,201 To rid the area, allegedly, drug dealers and undesirable elements ... 1106 01:21:54,303 --> 01:22:01,606 The mayor put a policy in motion on the neighborhood, make it attractive for wealthier citizens. 1107 01:22:01,931 --> 01:22:08,178 The government sent police and He started bothering us. 1108 01:22:08,630 --> 01:22:13,885 I decided to do satire their behavior in the movie "police state". 1109 01:22:21,795 --> 01:22:25,265 In the mid-80s L.E. Side infested with drugs. 1110 01:22:25,365 --> 01:22:30,416 It looked like the government of heroin District eaves of eradicating it and ... 1111 01:22:30,516 --> 01:22:33,258 then they could pick up the building. 1112 01:22:33,358 --> 01:22:38,025 Drug destroyed much creative energy. 1113 01:22:38,125 --> 01:22:39,932 It was heartbreaking. 1114 01:22:40,932 --> 01:22:47,964 I was afraid of Richard's films because they were too confrontational for me. 1115 01:22:48,587 --> 01:22:55,577 Cassandra Stark had complete Cinema rejection offense. 1116 01:22:56,702 --> 01:23:00,177 Nick Zedd announced that Some of these people were deceased. 1117 01:23:00,277 --> 01:23:03,051 Then there were rumors Nick's own death. 1118 01:23:03,151 --> 01:23:06,650 And when I played Seeking a way out of the drug. 1119 01:23:06,999 --> 01:23:15,249 Once Kino offense was He announced that began quarreling among elkaaar. 1120 01:23:15,349 --> 01:23:18,369 And it suppressed consensus in the event that any at all. 1121 01:23:18,469 --> 01:23:20,556 There was much bickering among themselves. 1122 01:23:20,656 --> 01:23:25,934 It sounds silly, but You had all these little rivalry. 1123 01:23:26,034 --> 01:23:30,101 Yes, I would like once again Richard the pan upside strike. 1124 01:23:32,332 --> 01:23:36,498 I wanted to work on my own films. It has nothing to do with Nick Zedd ... 1125 01:23:36,598 --> 01:23:38,383 or a manifesto. 1126 01:23:42,940 --> 01:23:48,809 Events in Downtown East Village He reached a peak. 1127 01:23:49,233 --> 01:23:55,686 There appeared a police riot and they He held a big fence around ... 1128 01:23:55,786 --> 01:23:57,886 rotate Tompkin Square Park. 1129 01:23:57,986 --> 01:24:01,399 Fence with barbed wire. This reminded me of Eastern Europe. 1130 01:24:01,499 --> 01:24:03,281 During the Cold War. 1131 01:24:04,236 --> 01:24:08,520 At the same time began MTV to be great. 1132 01:24:08,620 --> 01:24:12,109 That was the end to "Downtown" and ... 1133 01:24:12,209 --> 01:24:15,635 and the beginning of the commercialization from "Downtown". 1134 01:24:15,735 --> 01:24:20,546 You have a certain political and economic changes and it was ... 1135 01:24:20,646 --> 01:24:26,106 the land of plenty for owners and the art world there killed. 1136 01:24:29,019 --> 01:24:31,814 New York has always Turned handeltjes. 1137 01:24:31,914 --> 01:24:36,289 It is built on a warped and money matters. 1138 01:24:36,389 --> 01:24:38,786 It started as a trading post. 1139 01:24:38,886 --> 01:24:40,936 And as the city grew around it. 1140 01:24:41,037 --> 01:24:44,537 It's always been all about business, trade and crime ... 1141 01:24:44,637 --> 01:24:49,005 and what is the one from the other can steal. 1142 01:24:49,105 --> 01:24:54,128 And so it is now only it relates to the property. 1143 01:24:55,161 --> 01:25:00,638 I was given quite suddenly from my house. 1144 01:25:00,738 --> 01:25:03,503 And I wish the landlord to return. 1145 01:25:03,603 --> 01:25:06,384 I completely destroyed the house. 1146 01:25:08,170 --> 01:25:11,670 One hand and throw something with the other, that the shooting. 1147 01:25:13,165 --> 01:25:16,233 You could not see to do something flew across the room. 1148 01:25:16,333 --> 01:25:18,383 It was kind of a tornado. 1149 01:25:42,535 --> 01:25:46,769 That whole period was filmatische time. 1150 01:25:46,869 --> 01:25:51,454 It was not formed. It was a purposeful survival. 1151 01:25:51,554 --> 01:25:56,384 People have a lot of risks and many went dead. 1152 01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:03,086 And if there are influences of his work from this period to the left, then it may be the reason. 1153 01:26:03,205 --> 01:26:05,305 It was such a rough time. 1154 01:26:06,768 --> 01:26:09,568 Whether acute Heroin Addiction was ... 1155 01:26:09,731 --> 01:26:11,831 or hardcore music ... 1156 01:26:11,958 --> 01:26:14,758 or to minimalist film. 1157 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,420 It was all about my limits explore and cheat death. 1158 01:26:18,557 --> 01:26:20,376 Nobody was reluctant. 1159 01:26:20,476 --> 01:26:24,601 Nobody tried to make beautiful things or idealize. 1160 01:26:24,701 --> 01:26:26,743 They said the ugly naked truth ... 1161 01:26:26,843 --> 01:26:29,601 how they feel and live. 1162 01:26:29,701 --> 01:26:35,635 Therefore, Kino offense No Wave and still such a strong influence. 1163 01:26:36,675 --> 01:26:39,863 These films were made with passion. 1164 01:26:39,963 --> 01:26:43,540 They were perhaps naive or badly made ... 1165 01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:49,114 but they had the integrity that Visible to go. 1166 01:26:49,566 --> 01:26:56,376 Indie Films ... This is the place where the movement started. With the type of films we've done. 1167 01:26:56,476 --> 01:27:01,169 When I started working as an actor I missed that mentality ... 1168 01:27:01,269 --> 01:27:06,063 from that time, when people They worked together and inspired each other. 1169 01:27:06,163 --> 01:27:08,232 So I tried it to create for themselves. 1170 01:27:08,332 --> 01:27:16,217 We have tried to make the film more accessible that goes beyond the big corporations. 1171 01:27:16,317 --> 01:27:19,797 That is now changing, thanks what we did then. 1172 01:27:19,897 --> 01:27:24,220 But it is still difficult raise money for the film. 1173 01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:30,238 With the internet and availability technology to keep your own records or films ... 1174 01:27:30,338 --> 01:27:35,846 and self publishing wereldweid You do not need to go to Hollywood. 1175 01:27:35,946 --> 01:27:41,996 But at that time it was the only place to go could go and the idea that you cared. 1176 01:27:42,096 --> 01:27:51,409 Means, which now have a computer and technology has completely democratized filmmaking. 1177 01:27:51,509 --> 01:27:55,632 We could then only sen. 1178 01:27:55,732 --> 01:27:58,499 And it has our attention changed the world. 1179 01:27:59,689 --> 01:28:05,831 The most important thing for me the power of thought and expression. 1180 01:28:05,931 --> 01:28:09,379 This is the main the power that people have. 1181 01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:16,619 I like to think of all those lying murderous thieves who have all the political power ... 1182 01:28:16,719 --> 01:28:18,445 and financial strength. 1183 01:28:18,545 --> 01:28:23,383 Everything that power can not compete power of ideas. 1184 01:28:24,110 --> 01:28:28,890 So I say forget the past and let the future come. 1185 01:28:45,138 --> 01:28:50,938 Translated and subtitled by: - ​​EdEditz - 1186 01:28:51,138 --> 01:28:56,938 Checking and Editing: Goffin 97573

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