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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,837 --> 00:00:05,006 Vampires are about sex and death. 2 00:00:05,048 --> 00:00:07,967 When the vampire bites... 3 00:00:09,010 --> 00:00:10,637 Women swoon... 4 00:00:12,472 --> 00:00:15,058 They're dangerous because they're seductive. 5 00:00:15,099 --> 00:00:16,976 What is seductive 6 00:00:17,018 --> 00:00:18,853 is often bad for us, 7 00:00:18,895 --> 00:00:20,480 is often dangerous. 8 00:00:24,609 --> 00:00:26,569 It's not brutality for the sake 9 00:00:26,611 --> 00:00:27,737 of being brutal. 10 00:00:27,779 --> 00:00:29,322 It's survival. 11 00:00:32,534 --> 00:00:35,203 They are a drug addict, 12 00:00:35,245 --> 00:00:36,913 a historian, 13 00:00:36,955 --> 00:00:38,206 a serial killer, 14 00:00:38,248 --> 00:00:40,250 a hopeless romantic 15 00:00:40,291 --> 00:00:41,960 all at the same time. 16 00:00:43,461 --> 00:00:45,588 It deals with the exchange of fluids. 17 00:00:45,630 --> 00:00:46,839 It deals with blood. 18 00:00:46,881 --> 00:00:48,132 It's too late. 19 00:00:48,174 --> 00:00:51,135 My blood is in your veins. 20 00:00:51,177 --> 00:00:53,304 Vampires are supposed to be awful... 21 00:00:53,346 --> 00:00:56,849 the stink of the grave, his fetid breath. 22 00:00:56,891 --> 00:00:59,519 It was supposed to be ugly and nasty. 23 00:01:01,563 --> 00:01:02,814 And then there was "Twilight." 24 00:01:04,983 --> 00:01:07,235 What's good about a "Twilight" movie is, 25 00:01:07,277 --> 00:01:08,695 it makes everybody who watches it 26 00:01:08,736 --> 00:01:10,363 feel like a 13-year-old girl. 27 00:01:10,405 --> 00:01:12,031 Vampires are the only ones 28 00:01:12,073 --> 00:01:13,825 that you can really make sexy and beautiful. 29 00:01:13,866 --> 00:01:15,702 We are immortal. 30 00:01:15,743 --> 00:01:18,788 They've always been... since Anne Rice, anyway... 31 00:01:18,830 --> 00:01:21,541 allowed to be gay or bisexual. 32 00:01:21,583 --> 00:01:24,002 - This idea of... - Do you wanna do me now? 33 00:01:24,043 --> 00:01:25,503 The taboo... 34 00:01:25,545 --> 00:01:27,213 Darkness. 35 00:01:27,255 --> 00:01:28,840 And, you know, if you're gonna tangle 36 00:01:28,881 --> 00:01:30,276 with the darkness... with the sexuality 37 00:01:30,300 --> 00:01:31,884 and all of that... 38 00:01:31,926 --> 00:01:33,970 Well, death is all around you. 39 00:02:07,587 --> 00:02:10,173 Naughty little girl. 40 00:02:10,214 --> 00:02:12,800 Over the last 25 years, 41 00:02:12,842 --> 00:02:16,804 we've seen an explosion of vampire stories. 42 00:02:20,433 --> 00:02:22,685 - You're wrong. - "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" 43 00:02:22,727 --> 00:02:24,395 gave us bloodsucking bad boys 44 00:02:24,437 --> 00:02:27,565 the heroine both detested and desired. 45 00:02:27,607 --> 00:02:30,360 "Underworld" and "Blade" 46 00:02:30,401 --> 00:02:33,071 recast vampires as action heroes. 47 00:02:36,491 --> 00:02:37,992 Art-horror films like 48 00:02:38,034 --> 00:02:40,370 "A Girl Walks Home Alone At Night" 49 00:02:40,411 --> 00:02:43,164 and "The Addiction" used vampires to tell 50 00:02:43,206 --> 00:02:46,584 allegorical tales about drug abuse. 51 00:02:46,626 --> 00:02:48,878 The "Twilight" books and films doubled down 52 00:02:48,920 --> 00:02:50,755 on vampire romance... 53 00:02:50,797 --> 00:02:53,049 While sex and splatter 54 00:02:53,091 --> 00:02:56,260 dominated the teen drama "The Vampire Diaries" 55 00:02:56,302 --> 00:03:00,348 and the very adult series "True Blood." 56 00:03:00,390 --> 00:03:02,850 Modern vampires come in many guises, 57 00:03:02,892 --> 00:03:06,688 but they all address a singular hunger. 58 00:03:06,729 --> 00:03:08,940 It's bringing together the two things 59 00:03:08,981 --> 00:03:11,109 that media culture seems to love the most: 60 00:03:11,150 --> 00:03:12,443 sex and violence. 61 00:03:12,485 --> 00:03:14,570 You know, it allows them to coexist 62 00:03:14,612 --> 00:03:17,031 in one figure. 63 00:03:17,073 --> 00:03:20,326 Vampires have been violent avatars of the erotic 64 00:03:20,368 --> 00:03:22,578 going all the way back to the king daddy 65 00:03:22,620 --> 00:03:24,372 of bloodsuckers. 66 00:03:25,832 --> 00:03:27,959 I am Dracula. 67 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,086 - I am Dracula. - I... 68 00:03:30,128 --> 00:03:32,213 am Dracula. 69 00:03:33,881 --> 00:03:37,593 Created in 1897 by novelist Bram Stoker, 70 00:03:37,635 --> 00:03:41,264 Dracula is a true icon of horror. 71 00:03:41,305 --> 00:03:44,142 But Stoker's Dracula was far more monstrous 72 00:03:44,183 --> 00:03:46,936 than the polished aristocrats we think of today. 73 00:03:48,730 --> 00:03:50,940 I grew up reading "Dracula" 74 00:03:50,982 --> 00:03:53,776 and reading about the stink of the grave, 75 00:03:53,818 --> 00:03:56,195 the graveyard earth that the vampire was in 76 00:03:56,237 --> 00:03:58,448 with the worms crawling in it, 77 00:03:58,489 --> 00:04:00,867 about his fetid breath. 78 00:04:00,908 --> 00:04:03,369 It was supposed to be ugly and nasty. 79 00:04:03,411 --> 00:04:06,414 Yeah, he's the original stalker, 80 00:04:06,456 --> 00:04:08,916 the original scary stranger, you know, 81 00:04:08,958 --> 00:04:10,752 the original serial killer. 82 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,380 One of the reasons 83 00:04:14,422 --> 00:04:16,883 that Dracula has persisted for so long... 84 00:04:16,924 --> 00:04:19,218 as opposed to the Frankenstein monster, 85 00:04:19,260 --> 00:04:21,971 as opposed to the Wolfman or the Mummy... 86 00:04:22,013 --> 00:04:23,890 was, he was a character. 87 00:04:23,931 --> 00:04:25,600 He was a genuine... 88 00:04:25,641 --> 00:04:26,976 character. 89 00:04:29,061 --> 00:04:31,939 The first unauthorized adaptation of "Dracula" 90 00:04:31,981 --> 00:04:36,068 was the German silent film "Nosferatu." 91 00:04:36,110 --> 00:04:38,488 It was released in 1922, 92 00:04:38,529 --> 00:04:41,491 four years after the end of the First World War. 93 00:04:43,868 --> 00:04:45,745 The makers of "Nosferatu" 94 00:04:45,787 --> 00:04:47,913 intended that vampire 95 00:04:47,914 --> 00:04:50,542 to represent war itself... 96 00:04:52,126 --> 00:04:53,961 War as a cosmic vampire 97 00:04:54,003 --> 00:04:57,340 that had drained the blood out of Europe. 98 00:04:57,381 --> 00:04:59,133 And you watch the original "Nosferatu"... 99 00:04:59,175 --> 00:05:01,135 - Yeah. - It was terrifying. 100 00:05:01,177 --> 00:05:03,471 And I thought it was so cool that Tobe Hooper went 101 00:05:03,513 --> 00:05:06,516 to that kind of vampire in "Salem's Lot." 102 00:05:06,557 --> 00:05:08,726 The bald vampire 103 00:05:08,768 --> 00:05:11,020 with the teeth like that always freaked me out. 104 00:05:15,691 --> 00:05:18,194 The first official adaptation of "Dracula" 105 00:05:18,236 --> 00:05:21,364 starred the incomparable Bela Lugosi. 106 00:05:21,405 --> 00:05:23,991 Listen to them. 107 00:05:24,033 --> 00:05:27,537 The children of the night... 108 00:05:27,578 --> 00:05:30,706 what music they make. 109 00:05:30,748 --> 00:05:32,583 We all know the story: 110 00:05:32,625 --> 00:05:34,460 looking for new blood, 111 00:05:34,502 --> 00:05:36,462 the undead Count Dracula 112 00:05:36,504 --> 00:05:39,507 relocates from Transylvania to England. 113 00:05:39,549 --> 00:05:43,052 Once in London, the vampire begins to feed. 114 00:05:43,094 --> 00:05:45,972 He takes a special interest 115 00:05:46,013 --> 00:05:48,182 in corrupting a young woman whom he wants 116 00:05:48,224 --> 00:05:51,227 to turn into his vampire bride. 117 00:05:51,269 --> 00:05:53,062 In 1931, 118 00:05:53,104 --> 00:05:55,523 which was the worst year of the Great Depression, 119 00:05:55,565 --> 00:05:57,024 Universal took a chance 120 00:05:57,066 --> 00:06:00,319 on "Dracula" and "Frankenstein." 121 00:06:00,361 --> 00:06:03,865 We have this American public that has just endured 122 00:06:03,906 --> 00:06:05,783 the beginning of the Great Depression. 123 00:06:05,825 --> 00:06:07,285 They wanted to have some sort 124 00:06:07,326 --> 00:06:09,537 of foreign presence to go and blame 125 00:06:09,579 --> 00:06:11,056 for everything that was happening around them: 126 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,599 for losing their jobs, for not being able 127 00:06:12,623 --> 00:06:14,500 to feed their family. 128 00:06:14,542 --> 00:06:16,544 People were on edge, 129 00:06:16,586 --> 00:06:20,172 and "Dracula" was the mysterious draining force 130 00:06:20,214 --> 00:06:22,466 that was at everybody's door. 131 00:06:22,508 --> 00:06:26,387 My blood now flows through her veins. 132 00:06:26,429 --> 00:06:29,348 I find it fascinating that anybody 133 00:06:29,390 --> 00:06:31,893 for years, decades to come 134 00:06:31,934 --> 00:06:33,895 who wanted to imitate Count Dracula 135 00:06:33,936 --> 00:06:35,813 did it with a Hungarian accent. 136 00:06:35,855 --> 00:06:37,982 - I am Dracula. - Greetings. 137 00:06:38,024 --> 00:06:39,233 It is I, the Count. 138 00:06:39,275 --> 00:06:41,694 Welcome to Hotel Transylvania! 139 00:06:41,736 --> 00:06:44,947 I didn't know Bela Lugosi 140 00:06:44,989 --> 00:06:47,241 was the name of a man. 141 00:06:47,283 --> 00:06:50,995 I thought all the horror film monsters 142 00:06:51,037 --> 00:06:53,247 and all the actors 143 00:06:53,289 --> 00:06:55,082 worked as a team... 144 00:06:55,124 --> 00:06:56,518 And the name of the team 145 00:06:56,542 --> 00:06:59,420 was Bela Lugosi. 146 00:06:59,462 --> 00:07:01,881 Lugosi was a hard act to follow. 147 00:07:01,923 --> 00:07:04,675 It took nearly three decades for another Dracula 148 00:07:04,717 --> 00:07:06,385 to make his mark. 149 00:07:06,427 --> 00:07:09,096 But Christopher Lee made the role his own. 150 00:07:09,138 --> 00:07:11,265 Mr. Harker. 151 00:07:11,307 --> 00:07:13,267 I'm glad that you've arrived safely. 152 00:07:13,309 --> 00:07:15,019 Count Dracula? 153 00:07:15,061 --> 00:07:17,521 I am Dracula, and I welcome you to my house. 154 00:07:17,563 --> 00:07:20,316 Lee was both dapper, aristocratic, 155 00:07:20,358 --> 00:07:21,567 and terrifying. 156 00:07:28,449 --> 00:07:31,953 Very different than Lugosi's count. 157 00:07:31,994 --> 00:07:35,539 Bela Lugosi's Dracula never had fangs. 158 00:07:35,581 --> 00:07:37,458 They felt that fangs would have been 159 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:40,211 too suggestive of penetration. 160 00:07:40,252 --> 00:07:42,463 Well, Christopher Lee... not only did he have fangs, 161 00:07:42,505 --> 00:07:44,423 but as he's approaching these women, 162 00:07:44,465 --> 00:07:48,052 who at first are intimidated, they... 163 00:07:48,094 --> 00:07:50,972 start undoing their blouse, and they're like, 164 00:07:51,013 --> 00:07:52,056 you know, "Come at me. 165 00:07:52,098 --> 00:07:53,432 This is awesome." 166 00:07:55,476 --> 00:07:57,937 It's so interesting, the fear of female sexuality 167 00:07:57,979 --> 00:08:01,565 that is so powerful in "Dracula," 168 00:08:01,607 --> 00:08:04,485 the idea of a woman after having had sex, 169 00:08:04,527 --> 00:08:06,278 basically, after having been bitten 170 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,656 and then transforming into this ravenous 171 00:08:08,698 --> 00:08:10,032 sexual creature. 172 00:08:13,703 --> 00:08:15,705 It's... it's, like, so... 173 00:08:15,746 --> 00:08:17,415 it's great, 'cause horror allows you 174 00:08:17,456 --> 00:08:20,001 to really express your fears in a very obvious way. 175 00:08:20,042 --> 00:08:21,836 You know, go to town on them. 176 00:08:21,877 --> 00:08:23,379 Come. 177 00:08:23,421 --> 00:08:25,131 Let me kiss you. 178 00:08:25,172 --> 00:08:27,258 There have been many Draculas since Lugosi 179 00:08:27,299 --> 00:08:30,094 and Lee, but one truly stands out... 180 00:08:31,887 --> 00:08:34,515 Gary Oldman in Francis Ford Coppola's 181 00:08:34,557 --> 00:08:36,851 epic 1992 adaptation. 182 00:08:38,436 --> 00:08:40,229 Gary Oldman, who plays Dracula, 183 00:08:40,271 --> 00:08:42,481 we have him being suave and sophisticated and sexy, 184 00:08:42,523 --> 00:08:45,276 and then the next minute, he's transforming into a wolf... 185 00:08:45,317 --> 00:08:46,652 a large wolf. 186 00:08:46,694 --> 00:08:48,612 And he is just maiming people. 187 00:08:48,654 --> 00:08:50,740 He's vicious. He's terrible. 188 00:08:50,781 --> 00:08:53,492 And somehow, it works. 189 00:08:56,704 --> 00:08:59,206 I loved Coppola's "Dracula," 190 00:08:59,248 --> 00:09:01,208 just the level of art direction, 191 00:09:01,250 --> 00:09:04,670 just how creative that was as a film... 192 00:09:06,380 --> 00:09:08,257 And what a mood it set. 193 00:09:10,593 --> 00:09:13,304 When he was doing Dracula point-of-view stuff, 194 00:09:13,345 --> 00:09:16,265 the way that he shot that was so exhilarating. 195 00:09:20,644 --> 00:09:22,813 I think that helps paint a pretty picture... 196 00:09:22,855 --> 00:09:24,899 Over the brutality of it all, 197 00:09:24,940 --> 00:09:26,734 and I think that is specific 198 00:09:26,776 --> 00:09:28,694 to the vampire genre. 199 00:09:28,736 --> 00:09:30,547 We're strong in the Lord and the power of his might. 200 00:09:34,742 --> 00:09:37,328 I bring you from shadow into light! 201 00:09:37,369 --> 00:09:41,582 I cast you out, the Prince of Darkness! 202 00:09:41,624 --> 00:09:44,418 We see this extremely sympathetic Dracula 203 00:09:44,460 --> 00:09:46,670 because he misses his... 204 00:09:46,712 --> 00:09:49,381 his wife, who was killed, and then sees 205 00:09:49,423 --> 00:09:52,551 sort of her reincarnation in this modern-day gal. 206 00:09:52,593 --> 00:09:55,679 That completely revolutionized 207 00:09:55,721 --> 00:09:57,347 Dracula performances. 208 00:09:57,348 --> 00:10:00,226 It changed the... the filmic Dracula mythos. 209 00:10:06,107 --> 00:10:07,733 And, in fact, you could argue 210 00:10:07,775 --> 00:10:10,152 that we're still riding the wave from that film 211 00:10:10,194 --> 00:10:12,113 even today. 212 00:10:12,154 --> 00:10:14,657 Mina. 213 00:10:14,698 --> 00:10:16,408 What Coppola did was, he portrayed 214 00:10:16,450 --> 00:10:18,452 a very tragic figure. 215 00:10:18,494 --> 00:10:20,913 The guy just wants to be loved. 216 00:10:20,955 --> 00:10:22,641 I mean, that's what all of the Universal monster movies 217 00:10:22,665 --> 00:10:24,667 have in common is that they're all just 218 00:10:24,708 --> 00:10:26,585 male archetypes who want 219 00:10:26,627 --> 00:10:27,962 the love and affection of a woman 220 00:10:28,003 --> 00:10:29,964 but because they're monsters, 221 00:10:30,005 --> 00:10:32,716 they're sort of scorned and rejected. 222 00:10:35,302 --> 00:10:38,472 The story of Dracula continues to resonate today. 223 00:10:38,514 --> 00:10:39,974 But its fear 224 00:10:40,015 --> 00:10:42,560 of female sexuality is firmly rooted 225 00:10:42,601 --> 00:10:45,062 in 19th-century England. 226 00:10:45,104 --> 00:10:46,939 In the late 20th century, 227 00:10:46,981 --> 00:10:50,192 novelist Anne Rice created a new breed of vampire 228 00:10:50,234 --> 00:10:52,236 suited for the modern world, 229 00:10:52,278 --> 00:10:54,572 vampires as tortured heroes, 230 00:10:54,613 --> 00:10:57,366 amoral villains, and avatars 231 00:10:57,408 --> 00:10:59,160 of alternative sexuality. 232 00:11:03,247 --> 00:11:05,332 Pretend to drink, at least. 233 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,256 Such fine crystal shouldn't go to waste. 234 00:11:13,757 --> 00:11:17,052 Anne Rice dominates modern vampire fiction. 235 00:11:17,094 --> 00:11:19,847 Her books turned the genre inside out. 236 00:11:19,889 --> 00:11:22,600 Rice's vampires were beautiful monsters 237 00:11:22,641 --> 00:11:25,519 with tortured souls. 238 00:11:25,561 --> 00:11:27,813 As soon as I started to write what's called fantasy, 239 00:11:27,855 --> 00:11:29,648 I was able to touch reality. 240 00:11:29,690 --> 00:11:31,442 I was able to talk about my world. 241 00:11:31,483 --> 00:11:33,194 I was able to talk about good and evil 242 00:11:33,235 --> 00:11:35,196 and guilt and pain and suffering, 243 00:11:35,237 --> 00:11:36,989 but I had to do it in that context, 244 00:11:37,031 --> 00:11:39,283 with that frame of fantasy around it. 245 00:11:39,325 --> 00:11:42,578 Rice's first novel, "Interview with the Vampire," 246 00:11:42,620 --> 00:11:46,248 was made into a film in 1994. 247 00:11:46,290 --> 00:11:47,708 The story follows 248 00:11:47,750 --> 00:11:49,168 the centuries-long relationship 249 00:11:49,210 --> 00:11:51,086 between the vampire Lestat 250 00:11:51,128 --> 00:11:54,757 and Louis, a troubled New Orleans aristocrat. 251 00:11:54,798 --> 00:11:57,009 Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt... 252 00:11:57,051 --> 00:11:59,220 two of the biggest stars of modern times... 253 00:11:59,261 --> 00:12:00,262 played the leads. 254 00:12:00,304 --> 00:12:01,764 The Paris opera is in town. 255 00:12:01,805 --> 00:12:04,975 We can try some French cui... cuisine. 256 00:12:06,101 --> 00:12:09,438 Forgive me if I have a lingering respect for life. 257 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,316 The Louis character didn't want to be a vampire, 258 00:12:12,358 --> 00:12:14,360 and he didn't like the brutal killing aspect. 259 00:12:14,401 --> 00:12:17,655 And then you have Lestat, 260 00:12:17,696 --> 00:12:19,823 who just enjoys and revels in all of it. 261 00:12:19,865 --> 00:12:21,992 - Why do you do this? - I like to do it. 262 00:12:22,034 --> 00:12:23,577 I enjoy it. 263 00:12:23,619 --> 00:12:25,079 There was a lot of controversy 264 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,915 about casting Tom Cruise, 265 00:12:27,957 --> 00:12:30,334 but between Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, 266 00:12:30,376 --> 00:12:32,878 and Kirsten Dunst, I thought they really nailed it. 267 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,380 I was surprised. 268 00:12:34,421 --> 00:12:36,548 I went in skeptical but came out a fan. 269 00:12:38,217 --> 00:12:40,511 You see the old woman? 270 00:12:40,552 --> 00:12:42,263 That will never happen to you. 271 00:12:42,304 --> 00:12:45,975 You will never grow old, and you will never die. 272 00:12:46,016 --> 00:12:48,060 That goes down as one of the great 273 00:12:48,102 --> 00:12:50,062 child's performances. 274 00:12:50,104 --> 00:12:52,064 Once in a while, it happens 275 00:12:52,106 --> 00:12:54,608 that a kid can kick so much ass in a movie. 276 00:12:54,650 --> 00:12:56,860 You give her to me, Louis! 277 00:12:56,902 --> 00:13:00,572 Do this before you leave me! 278 00:13:01,991 --> 00:13:03,659 Oh, God. 279 00:13:03,701 --> 00:13:05,494 I love you still. 280 00:13:05,536 --> 00:13:08,330 My dark angel, when you are gone. 281 00:13:09,873 --> 00:13:12,668 What do you think she is, Madeleine? 282 00:13:14,086 --> 00:13:15,921 A doll? 283 00:13:18,173 --> 00:13:20,384 A child who cannot die. 284 00:13:21,844 --> 00:13:23,971 And the child who did die? 285 00:13:24,013 --> 00:13:26,473 Claudia's probably the best part of the movie. 286 00:13:26,515 --> 00:13:29,310 You know, the idea of a vampire 287 00:13:29,351 --> 00:13:31,478 being forced to age in the body 288 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,065 of, what, a ten-year-old girl? 289 00:13:35,107 --> 00:13:39,445 To see a character that is granted immortality, 290 00:13:39,486 --> 00:13:41,655 but the downside being she never gets to grow up 291 00:13:41,697 --> 00:13:43,907 to become a woman, like, that's heartbreaking. 292 00:13:45,367 --> 00:13:47,786 Anne Rice lost a daughter 293 00:13:47,828 --> 00:13:50,039 at a very young age, 294 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,959 and Claudia in the novel was an homage to that. 295 00:13:54,001 --> 00:13:56,754 - Mama. - Oh, shh. 296 00:13:56,795 --> 00:13:58,589 Hush, now. Don't cry. 297 00:13:58,630 --> 00:14:00,758 - We'll find her. - Mama. 298 00:14:00,799 --> 00:14:02,968 Oh. 299 00:14:03,010 --> 00:14:05,971 The vampires Lestat, Louis, and Claudia 300 00:14:06,013 --> 00:14:08,015 form a family of outsiders 301 00:14:08,057 --> 00:14:10,851 headed by two fathers. 302 00:14:10,893 --> 00:14:13,354 The arrangement suggested gay marriage 303 00:14:13,395 --> 00:14:16,940 years before that was accepted by mainstream society. 304 00:14:16,982 --> 00:14:19,276 One happy family. 305 00:14:19,318 --> 00:14:22,696 The novel was intentionally homoerotic. 306 00:14:22,738 --> 00:14:24,406 Even though I think they downplayed 307 00:14:24,448 --> 00:14:26,450 a little bit of the homoeroticism 308 00:14:26,492 --> 00:14:29,203 that was in novel, it was still there. 309 00:14:29,244 --> 00:14:33,749 I've drained you to the point of death. 310 00:14:33,791 --> 00:14:36,293 Using it as a cultural link 311 00:14:36,335 --> 00:14:38,545 with homosexuality... 312 00:14:38,587 --> 00:14:40,047 - Yes. - Has been part 313 00:14:40,089 --> 00:14:41,924 of the vampire mystique, but I mean, 314 00:14:41,965 --> 00:14:45,219 when you couldn't deal with homo... homosexuality, 315 00:14:45,260 --> 00:14:48,222 you could deal with it to some degree or another 316 00:14:48,223 --> 00:14:49,807 in vampire movies, 317 00:14:49,848 --> 00:14:53,185 even going back as far as the '30s. 318 00:14:53,227 --> 00:14:55,437 - Really? - Yeah, "Dracula's Daughter." 319 00:14:55,479 --> 00:14:58,273 I suppose you'll want these pulled down, won't you? 320 00:14:58,315 --> 00:14:59,400 Yes. 321 00:14:59,441 --> 00:15:01,735 Probably the most famous 322 00:15:01,777 --> 00:15:03,529 lesbian sequence... 323 00:15:03,570 --> 00:15:05,948 - Mm-hmm. - In an American movie 324 00:15:05,989 --> 00:15:07,282 made in the '30s. 325 00:15:07,324 --> 00:15:09,993 Why are you looking at me that way? 326 00:15:10,035 --> 00:15:12,121 Won't I do? 327 00:15:12,162 --> 00:15:14,123 Yes, you'll do very well indeed. 328 00:15:14,164 --> 00:15:17,334 The suggestion of a female seduction 329 00:15:17,376 --> 00:15:19,211 is just right there. 330 00:15:19,253 --> 00:15:21,547 That's just... it's just there. 331 00:15:21,588 --> 00:15:23,132 It's not even subtext. 332 00:15:23,173 --> 00:15:25,968 You are out of your mind. 333 00:15:32,599 --> 00:15:35,352 It was commonplace, particularly in the '70s... 334 00:15:35,394 --> 00:15:38,230 lesbians would, like, say, "Oh, wow, I-I just saw 335 00:15:38,272 --> 00:15:40,357 "this magnificent movie 336 00:15:40,399 --> 00:15:43,318 "about these two women that were in love, and it... 337 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,696 "and it really played the relationship 338 00:15:45,737 --> 00:15:47,197 "for all it's worth. 339 00:15:47,239 --> 00:15:48,758 I mean, they're vampires, all right, but..." 340 00:15:48,782 --> 00:15:49,884 "But..." That's... yeah. 341 00:15:49,908 --> 00:15:51,201 Well, this is one 342 00:15:51,243 --> 00:15:52,786 of the cool things about horror 343 00:15:52,828 --> 00:15:54,222 is that historically, it's always been able 344 00:15:54,246 --> 00:15:55,998 to deal with taboo subjects. 345 00:15:57,666 --> 00:16:00,752 In recent times, the challenging of taboos 346 00:16:00,794 --> 00:16:02,379 was taken to new levels 347 00:16:02,421 --> 00:16:04,840 by the television series "True Blood." 348 00:16:04,882 --> 00:16:07,926 It cut open the veins of vampirism 349 00:16:07,968 --> 00:16:11,180 and let the pansexual eroticism gush out. 350 00:16:16,226 --> 00:16:17,936 The many sides of vampires... 351 00:16:17,978 --> 00:16:19,646 the danger and the romance, 352 00:16:19,688 --> 00:16:21,398 the threat and the fun... 353 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,193 were all on full display in the long-running 354 00:16:24,234 --> 00:16:26,445 HBO series "True Blood," 355 00:16:26,487 --> 00:16:29,156 which debuted in 2008. 356 00:16:29,198 --> 00:16:30,741 I... 357 00:16:30,782 --> 00:16:34,328 never thought I would be having sex with you. 358 00:16:34,369 --> 00:16:37,206 Who said anything about sex? 359 00:16:42,461 --> 00:16:45,464 "True Blood" was based on the Southern Vampire Mysteries 360 00:16:45,506 --> 00:16:47,341 by Charlaine Harris. 361 00:16:47,382 --> 00:16:49,885 Over seven seasons, the series followed 362 00:16:49,927 --> 00:16:52,429 its heroine, Sookie Stackhouse, 363 00:16:52,471 --> 00:16:54,765 as she made her way through a world 364 00:16:54,806 --> 00:16:57,226 where vampires emerged from the shadows 365 00:16:57,267 --> 00:16:59,978 and entered mainstream society. 366 00:17:01,813 --> 00:17:03,315 The epicenter of "True Blood" 367 00:17:03,357 --> 00:17:05,776 is in Louisiana, 368 00:17:05,817 --> 00:17:09,446 and, basically, vampires have been around forever, 369 00:17:09,488 --> 00:17:11,323 but they kind of come out of the closet... 370 00:17:11,365 --> 00:17:12,991 or the coffin, I should say... 371 00:17:13,033 --> 00:17:17,955 and they decide to live amongst the living. 372 00:17:17,996 --> 00:17:20,582 As you can see, I did not burst into flames. 373 00:17:22,125 --> 00:17:24,461 It becomes a metaphor for so many 374 00:17:24,503 --> 00:17:26,630 different rights movements 375 00:17:26,672 --> 00:17:30,050 and how they're both ostracized. 376 00:17:30,092 --> 00:17:32,177 When I started on "True Blood," 377 00:17:32,219 --> 00:17:34,263 all we knew about Pam at the beginning 378 00:17:34,304 --> 00:17:37,266 was that she was the lieutenant 379 00:17:37,307 --> 00:17:39,268 to this vampire, her maker, 380 00:17:39,309 --> 00:17:41,728 and that she cared about nothing else. 381 00:17:41,770 --> 00:17:44,189 I find myself doubting whether you were ever 382 00:17:44,231 --> 00:17:46,191 truly human. 383 00:17:46,233 --> 00:17:47,484 Thank you. 384 00:17:47,526 --> 00:17:49,111 Pam... 385 00:17:49,152 --> 00:17:51,280 objectifying, 386 00:17:51,321 --> 00:17:52,573 murdering, 387 00:17:52,614 --> 00:17:55,659 literally eating men 388 00:17:55,701 --> 00:17:57,452 was one of my favorite parts. 389 00:17:59,371 --> 00:18:01,498 I don't know a lot of men 390 00:18:01,540 --> 00:18:03,792 who are aware of where to park 391 00:18:03,834 --> 00:18:06,128 in a parking lot... not next to a minivan, 392 00:18:06,169 --> 00:18:08,547 to carry your keys between your fingers; 393 00:18:08,589 --> 00:18:10,382 when you're parking at the airport, 394 00:18:10,424 --> 00:18:12,676 to look for where it's most lit. 395 00:18:12,718 --> 00:18:15,095 It's just part of a woman's life. 396 00:18:15,137 --> 00:18:17,598 To be the top of the food chain 397 00:18:17,639 --> 00:18:19,808 was so refreshing. 398 00:18:19,850 --> 00:18:23,478 I'll give you 24 hours to deliver that witch to me. 399 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,565 And if you don't, I will personally eat, 400 00:18:26,607 --> 00:18:29,276 , and kill all three of you. 401 00:18:31,028 --> 00:18:32,529 I was never good at the vampire teeth, 402 00:18:32,571 --> 00:18:34,072 and I never got better. 403 00:18:34,114 --> 00:18:35,782 Huh? What... what's that? 404 00:18:35,824 --> 00:18:37,868 I-I can't understand you. 405 00:18:37,909 --> 00:18:39,762 The thing I struggled with the most was the teeth... 406 00:18:39,786 --> 00:18:41,496 talking with the teeth. 407 00:18:41,538 --> 00:18:43,540 What do you expect when you come into my house 408 00:18:43,582 --> 00:18:45,082 and with me? 409 00:18:45,083 --> 00:18:46,793 It's hard trying to act 410 00:18:46,835 --> 00:18:49,546 with a piece of your body that you don't normally have. 411 00:18:52,007 --> 00:18:54,051 It's been a long time since I've done this. 412 00:18:54,092 --> 00:18:56,261 - A man? - No. 413 00:18:56,303 --> 00:18:57,846 A vampire. 414 00:18:57,888 --> 00:19:00,098 "True Blood's" often comic tone 415 00:19:00,140 --> 00:19:02,392 masked its serious intent: 416 00:19:02,434 --> 00:19:04,686 trying to make sense of sexual identity 417 00:19:04,728 --> 00:19:06,605 in the 21st century. 418 00:19:13,195 --> 00:19:15,947 My character was mainly gay... 419 00:19:15,989 --> 00:19:18,742 There's vampire in your cleavage. 420 00:19:19,868 --> 00:19:22,329 Okay, ew. 421 00:19:22,371 --> 00:19:24,373 She just had it with men. 422 00:19:24,414 --> 00:19:27,793 She came from a time... in early 1900... 423 00:19:27,834 --> 00:19:30,212 where women had a very hard time. 424 00:19:30,253 --> 00:19:31,922 That's right, whore. 425 00:19:34,383 --> 00:19:36,718 Vampires just in general kind of go both ways. 426 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,178 They're kind of bisexual. 427 00:19:38,220 --> 00:19:40,347 They kind of... whatever, and so I love 428 00:19:40,389 --> 00:19:43,016 that writers explored sexuality 429 00:19:43,058 --> 00:19:45,227 in relationships with characters that wouldn't 430 00:19:45,268 --> 00:19:47,979 normally, I think, maybe have a relationship like that. 431 00:19:48,021 --> 00:19:50,107 It's appealing because we live in the United States 432 00:19:50,148 --> 00:19:53,026 and a culture that is very sexual 433 00:19:53,068 --> 00:19:55,278 and yet very sexually repressive. 434 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,533 The idea of the vampire as a kind of sexy monster 435 00:19:59,574 --> 00:20:02,327 fits very well with the United States' kind of 436 00:20:02,369 --> 00:20:06,790 complicated relationship to sexuality. 437 00:20:06,832 --> 00:20:09,459 "True Blood" reflected America's gradual acceptance 438 00:20:09,501 --> 00:20:11,503 of gay rights, but it made a point 439 00:20:11,545 --> 00:20:14,089 of showing those rights could be taken away 440 00:20:14,131 --> 00:20:16,425 at any time. 441 00:20:16,466 --> 00:20:18,260 Got to season six, and it was about 442 00:20:18,301 --> 00:20:20,429 the vamp camp and how the vampires 443 00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:22,889 were sort, of like, being herded into these camps 444 00:20:22,931 --> 00:20:25,767 because of who they were and they were a threat. 445 00:20:29,521 --> 00:20:31,982 And that directly correlates just to social issues in life, 446 00:20:32,023 --> 00:20:34,401 of just being minorities in life that sort of 447 00:20:34,443 --> 00:20:36,611 aren't feeling equal. 448 00:20:36,653 --> 00:20:38,280 So you're not gonna read me my rights? 449 00:20:38,321 --> 00:20:40,490 You don't have any rights, vampire. 450 00:20:40,532 --> 00:20:43,618 I am sure that there's a lot of people 451 00:20:43,660 --> 00:20:45,245 in the "True Blood" audience 452 00:20:45,287 --> 00:20:48,498 who would not vote for equal rights 453 00:20:48,540 --> 00:20:50,667 in a lot of arenas... 454 00:20:50,709 --> 00:20:53,462 But because they were just being entertained... 455 00:20:53,503 --> 00:20:55,672 I did not see that coming. 456 00:20:55,714 --> 00:20:58,175 That opens the opportunity 457 00:20:58,216 --> 00:21:00,635 through entertainment to go, "Well, 458 00:21:00,677 --> 00:21:02,554 "you like this character, 459 00:21:02,596 --> 00:21:04,181 "you're rooting for him, 460 00:21:04,222 --> 00:21:06,975 and he sleeps with men and women." 461 00:21:08,685 --> 00:21:10,520 "True Blood" used the vampire metaphor 462 00:21:10,562 --> 00:21:14,107 to explore the shifting sands of adult sexuality, 463 00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:17,319 but vampire stories have also perfectly captured 464 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:20,447 the joys and agonies of being a teenager. 465 00:21:20,489 --> 00:21:22,199 What's happening to me, Star? 466 00:21:27,370 --> 00:21:28,955 The teenage years are filled 467 00:21:28,997 --> 00:21:31,583 with big emotions and raging hormones. 468 00:21:31,625 --> 00:21:33,960 It's a time when everything seems 469 00:21:34,002 --> 00:21:36,213 like a matter of life and death. 470 00:21:36,254 --> 00:21:39,341 So when Joel Schumacher's 1987 film 471 00:21:39,382 --> 00:21:42,803 "The Lost Boys" put vampires and teenagers together, 472 00:21:42,844 --> 00:21:45,639 a new kind of horror film was born. 473 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,058 "Lost Boys" was great, 'cause who would imagine 474 00:21:48,099 --> 00:21:50,894 of taking the legend of Peter Pan, 475 00:21:50,936 --> 00:21:53,313 of the boys who never grow up, 476 00:21:53,355 --> 00:21:55,982 who are just kind of rowdy rock-and-roll vampires? 477 00:21:57,776 --> 00:21:59,616 The whole thing is set to this kind of, like, 478 00:21:59,653 --> 00:22:01,988 '80s rock-and-roll thing: 479 00:22:02,030 --> 00:22:06,701 big hair; oiled-up, shirtless saxophone players. 480 00:22:06,743 --> 00:22:09,120 That's "The Lost Boys." 481 00:22:10,872 --> 00:22:13,166 You've got a family that moves to this town. 482 00:22:13,208 --> 00:22:17,754 The older son, A, falls for a girl 483 00:22:17,796 --> 00:22:20,924 and, B, discovers that the town is overrun 484 00:22:20,966 --> 00:22:23,301 with some very dark things that are happening. 485 00:22:25,804 --> 00:22:28,056 You had this incredibly dark, sexy component 486 00:22:28,098 --> 00:22:31,601 of, like, Kiefer Sutherland and Jami Gertz. 487 00:22:31,643 --> 00:22:33,687 Like, that was... they were beautiful. 488 00:22:33,728 --> 00:22:35,647 I'm over here, Michael. 489 00:22:35,689 --> 00:22:39,067 So it was sort of, like, dark, glamorous, sexy... 490 00:22:39,109 --> 00:22:41,736 Be one of us. 491 00:22:41,778 --> 00:22:45,031 And it was about kids saving the day. 492 00:22:45,073 --> 00:22:46,157 Hey, man. 493 00:22:46,199 --> 00:22:47,659 Read this. 494 00:22:47,701 --> 00:22:50,370 I told you, I don't like horror comics. 495 00:22:50,412 --> 00:22:53,123 Think of it more as a survival manual. 496 00:22:53,164 --> 00:22:56,293 We identified with it because the two kids, 497 00:22:56,334 --> 00:22:58,962 you know, hung out at a comic book shop, 498 00:22:59,004 --> 00:23:01,089 and they knew every rule 499 00:23:01,131 --> 00:23:03,174 about how to kill monsters. 500 00:23:03,216 --> 00:23:04,718 So that's what we were all about. 501 00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:06,428 Awesome monster bashers. 502 00:23:06,469 --> 00:23:08,722 - The meanest. - The baddest. 503 00:23:10,599 --> 00:23:12,434 Well, I-I based them on Rambo. 504 00:23:12,475 --> 00:23:14,603 I told them, "I want you to be like little Rambos." 505 00:23:14,644 --> 00:23:16,605 Okay, where's Nosferatu? 506 00:23:16,646 --> 00:23:18,106 - Who? - Prince of Darkness. 507 00:23:18,148 --> 00:23:19,608 The night crawler. The bloodsucker. 508 00:23:19,649 --> 00:23:20,984 El vampiro. 509 00:23:21,026 --> 00:23:22,319 For 13-year-old boys, 510 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:23,737 I mean, they were obsessed with it. 511 00:23:25,447 --> 00:23:28,033 "The Lost Boys" was vampire and horror 512 00:23:28,074 --> 00:23:30,535 for the MTV generation, 513 00:23:30,577 --> 00:23:33,204 so the way it was edited, the way it was scored, 514 00:23:33,246 --> 00:23:35,624 and the whole look of the vampires. 515 00:23:35,665 --> 00:23:38,919 I told you to stay off the boardwalk. 516 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,563 Even when I was auditioning, it was like, 517 00:23:40,587 --> 00:23:42,023 "You guys are gonna be riding Triumphs. 518 00:23:42,047 --> 00:23:43,548 You're gonna have leather jackets on." 519 00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:45,383 Like, I thought I was gonna die 520 00:23:45,425 --> 00:23:47,510 when I saw what he wanted me to look like. 521 00:23:47,552 --> 00:23:49,346 Marko. 522 00:23:49,387 --> 00:23:50,847 Good night, Michael. 523 00:23:50,889 --> 00:23:51,890 Bombs away. 524 00:23:51,932 --> 00:23:53,140 I was, like, you know, 525 00:23:53,141 --> 00:23:55,143 this scrappy NYU film student 526 00:23:55,185 --> 00:23:56,811 from, like, the Lower East Side. 527 00:23:56,853 --> 00:23:58,456 I mean, who the hell else was gonna get me 528 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,440 in 14-inch hair extensions? 529 00:24:00,482 --> 00:24:03,026 But I did... and I wore chaps, you know? 530 00:24:03,068 --> 00:24:06,196 So that tells you a lot about wanting to keep Joel happy. 531 00:24:09,115 --> 00:24:11,743 Come on, Michael! 532 00:24:11,785 --> 00:24:13,995 I said to everybody at Warner Brothers, 533 00:24:14,037 --> 00:24:16,164 "Let's not make excuses for this movie. 534 00:24:16,206 --> 00:24:18,208 It's a teenage vampire film." 535 00:24:18,249 --> 00:24:19,334 Come on! 536 00:24:19,376 --> 00:24:20,835 Can we make the best one 537 00:24:20,877 --> 00:24:22,045 that's ever been made? 538 00:24:22,087 --> 00:24:23,546 We can die trying. 539 00:24:29,678 --> 00:24:32,389 I think Joel may or may not kill me for saying this, 540 00:24:32,430 --> 00:24:36,559 but I mean, the movie... it's "Rebel Without a Cause." 541 00:24:36,601 --> 00:24:38,436 It's really a Nick Ray movie. 542 00:24:44,818 --> 00:24:46,861 It's a straight-up 543 00:24:46,903 --> 00:24:49,280 teen-sploitation, 544 00:24:49,322 --> 00:24:52,033 burgeoning sexuality. 545 00:24:52,075 --> 00:24:54,786 It's death, fear of mortality. 546 00:24:54,828 --> 00:24:56,413 I mean, it gets into all the things 547 00:24:56,454 --> 00:24:59,207 that great vampire stories get into. 548 00:24:59,249 --> 00:25:00,393 They must have hidden their coffins 549 00:25:00,417 --> 00:25:02,502 around here someplace. 550 00:25:02,544 --> 00:25:04,379 There's nothing here. Let's go, guys. 551 00:25:04,421 --> 00:25:07,716 Jesus! 552 00:25:10,010 --> 00:25:11,970 I end up getting staked in the chest 553 00:25:12,012 --> 00:25:14,014 by the two Coreys... 554 00:25:14,055 --> 00:25:16,599 Good night, bloodsucker. 555 00:25:16,641 --> 00:25:18,184 No! 556 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,523 And then die in a bath of glittery glue blood. 557 00:25:26,067 --> 00:25:28,486 So that's... to not spoil all of it for you, 558 00:25:28,528 --> 00:25:29,904 that's basically my demise. 559 00:25:37,996 --> 00:25:40,373 All right, not to get too heavy, but obviously, 560 00:25:40,415 --> 00:25:42,250 there's no way it was lost on Joel 561 00:25:42,292 --> 00:25:44,794 that the movie was made in the... in the era of AIDS, 562 00:25:44,836 --> 00:25:46,463 when that was really exploding. 563 00:25:46,504 --> 00:25:48,256 To date, the AIDS virus has claimed 564 00:25:48,298 --> 00:25:50,508 over 24,000 lives, 565 00:25:50,550 --> 00:25:52,510 the majority homosexual men. 566 00:25:52,552 --> 00:25:54,721 The stigmatizing of the gay population for, 567 00:25:54,763 --> 00:25:56,556 "Well, if you're gonna have that kind of sex, 568 00:25:56,598 --> 00:25:58,141 then you're gonna die"... 569 00:25:58,183 --> 00:26:00,810 That was very much in the news and in writing 570 00:26:00,852 --> 00:26:02,604 at the time in the '80s. 571 00:26:02,645 --> 00:26:03,855 It's too late. 572 00:26:03,897 --> 00:26:06,775 My blood is in your veins. 573 00:26:06,816 --> 00:26:09,277 When the AIDS crisis hit, 574 00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:11,487 there was suddenly this renaissance 575 00:26:11,488 --> 00:26:13,282 of vampire movies. 576 00:26:13,323 --> 00:26:16,618 Vampires are metaphors, clearly, for sex and death. 577 00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:22,207 I think it's a good example of how a real-life trauma, 578 00:26:22,248 --> 00:26:25,418 especially one that seems uncontrollable, 579 00:26:25,460 --> 00:26:29,589 is responded to by the creation of horror entertainment. 580 00:26:33,468 --> 00:26:34,969 If people just want to see it 581 00:26:35,011 --> 00:26:36,471 as an entertainment, that's fine. 582 00:26:36,513 --> 00:26:38,139 If they want to read other things in it, 583 00:26:38,181 --> 00:26:39,474 that's fine. 584 00:26:39,516 --> 00:26:41,059 And if they don't enjoy it, 585 00:26:41,101 --> 00:26:42,894 well, that's a reaction too. 586 00:26:46,397 --> 00:26:49,651 Vampires remind us that looks can be deceiving. 587 00:26:49,692 --> 00:26:52,195 We never really know what lies beneath 588 00:26:52,237 --> 00:26:54,155 the surface of a stranger. 589 00:26:54,197 --> 00:26:55,341 I love you too, Seth. 590 00:27:00,036 --> 00:27:02,539 Back, spawn of Satan! 591 00:27:05,917 --> 00:27:07,418 My favorite thing, I think, 592 00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:09,629 about horror and fantasy and science fiction 593 00:27:09,671 --> 00:27:10,671 is, you can make it up. 594 00:27:10,672 --> 00:27:12,215 It's... there are no rules. 595 00:27:12,257 --> 00:27:15,677 Any genre, every individual project, 596 00:27:15,718 --> 00:27:18,221 you have to invent your own rules, 597 00:27:18,263 --> 00:27:21,724 so in some movies, vampires can't be seen in a mirror. 598 00:27:21,766 --> 00:27:24,727 In other movies, they have to be killed with silver. 599 00:27:26,896 --> 00:27:28,648 What about crucifixes? 600 00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:31,568 Actually, I'm quite fond of looking at crucifixes. 601 00:27:31,609 --> 00:27:33,862 How about the old stake-through-the-heart thing? 602 00:27:33,903 --> 00:27:36,364 The vulgar fictions of a demented Irishman. 603 00:27:36,406 --> 00:27:37,991 You can follow the rules of the genre 604 00:27:38,032 --> 00:27:39,868 that have been placed down by other movies 605 00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:41,971 or other stories, or you can kind of come up with your own. 606 00:27:46,457 --> 00:27:48,001 This is my kind of place. 607 00:27:48,042 --> 00:27:49,752 In "From Dusk Till Dawn," 608 00:27:49,794 --> 00:27:52,213 two violent criminals take refuge 609 00:27:52,255 --> 00:27:54,757 in a Mexican strip club. 610 00:27:56,885 --> 00:27:59,637 The main attraction turns out to be the queen 611 00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:01,264 of the vampires. 612 00:28:10,106 --> 00:28:12,108 Dinner... 613 00:28:12,150 --> 00:28:13,776 Is served. 614 00:28:15,653 --> 00:28:17,780 I love the vampire makeup in "Dusk Till Dawn." 615 00:28:17,822 --> 00:28:20,283 That, for me, was one of the coolest reinventions. 616 00:28:22,243 --> 00:28:24,555 Robert Kurtzman came up with the original treatment of it. 617 00:28:24,579 --> 00:28:26,789 His vampires did kind of point 618 00:28:26,831 --> 00:28:29,083 in this weird direction 619 00:28:29,125 --> 00:28:31,878 that I had never quite seen before 620 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,546 for vampires. 621 00:28:33,588 --> 00:28:35,256 They could take on the shapes of humans, 622 00:28:35,298 --> 00:28:37,884 like they do in the Danny Trejo character, 623 00:28:37,926 --> 00:28:39,844 but their true selves 624 00:28:39,886 --> 00:28:43,014 were these bat-like creatures. 625 00:28:46,976 --> 00:28:48,686 I-I came up with 626 00:28:48,728 --> 00:28:52,315 a few mythology things that would be specific 627 00:28:52,357 --> 00:28:54,525 to these creatures. 628 00:28:54,567 --> 00:28:57,487 One was, okay, yeah, they could definitely be killed 629 00:28:57,528 --> 00:28:59,364 by a wooden stake to the heart. 630 00:28:59,405 --> 00:29:01,824 That still worked. 631 00:29:01,866 --> 00:29:03,826 Their blood was green... 632 00:29:03,868 --> 00:29:06,329 And the reason I made their blood green 633 00:29:06,371 --> 00:29:08,831 is because I knew there would be vampire blood 634 00:29:08,873 --> 00:29:11,334 all over the place, and it would be 635 00:29:11,376 --> 00:29:14,003 the color red, in particular, that would get you an X. 636 00:29:14,045 --> 00:29:15,922 - NC-17. - Yeah, an NC-17. 637 00:29:15,964 --> 00:29:18,883 So if we made the vampire blood green... 638 00:29:18,925 --> 00:29:20,551 You could spray it all over the place. 639 00:29:20,593 --> 00:29:22,469 We could spray it all over the place, 640 00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:24,848 and then the MPAA wouldn't be so freaked out by that. 641 00:29:24,889 --> 00:29:27,100 And that ended up actually working. 642 00:29:31,229 --> 00:29:33,856 "From Dusk Till Dawn" reinvented vampires 643 00:29:33,898 --> 00:29:36,401 as nightmarish creatures that used sex 644 00:29:36,442 --> 00:29:39,070 to lure in their victims. 645 00:29:40,863 --> 00:29:43,241 The horror masterpiece "Let the Right One In" 646 00:29:43,283 --> 00:29:45,368 is another brilliant reinvention. 647 00:29:47,412 --> 00:29:49,205 The vampire here lives within 648 00:29:49,247 --> 00:29:52,166 the classic boundaries of only going out at night 649 00:29:52,208 --> 00:29:54,544 and viciously feeding on humans. 650 00:29:56,421 --> 00:29:58,840 But this is not a story about sex. 651 00:29:58,881 --> 00:30:00,550 It's about love and how much 652 00:30:00,591 --> 00:30:03,177 we are willing to accept in the name of love. 653 00:30:07,056 --> 00:30:10,226 "Let the Right One In" is about a boy called Oskar 654 00:30:10,268 --> 00:30:12,520 who is getting bullied in school 655 00:30:12,562 --> 00:30:15,273 and is a bit lonely. 656 00:30:15,315 --> 00:30:18,568 And one day, he meets a girl called Eli, 657 00:30:18,609 --> 00:30:20,820 and then they became friends. 658 00:30:22,947 --> 00:30:24,657 What's special about my character, Eli, 659 00:30:24,699 --> 00:30:27,118 first of all is that she's a vampire. 660 00:30:28,786 --> 00:30:30,580 She has lived for a very long time. 661 00:30:33,541 --> 00:30:36,252 They cut off my lashes and my eyebrows 662 00:30:36,294 --> 00:30:38,046 to not make me so female, 663 00:30:38,087 --> 00:30:40,423 and it's also not my voice in the film. 664 00:30:40,465 --> 00:30:42,675 They wanted a voice that wasn't so feminine. 665 00:30:47,221 --> 00:30:48,931 Vampires could be, like... 666 00:30:48,973 --> 00:30:51,100 they're, like, sexy or dangerous 667 00:30:51,142 --> 00:30:52,935 or something like that, and she's, like, 668 00:30:52,977 --> 00:30:55,063 the opposite, I think. 669 00:30:55,104 --> 00:30:56,981 Once you realize who this girl is 670 00:30:57,023 --> 00:30:58,733 and how long she's been around and... 671 00:30:58,775 --> 00:31:01,527 then it's very haunting in the sense that, you know, 672 00:31:01,569 --> 00:31:03,571 she's taken on this kid as her companion. 673 00:31:03,613 --> 00:31:05,490 And we already know what's gonna happen to him. 674 00:31:10,578 --> 00:31:14,290 Probably the scariest and most powerful sequence 675 00:31:14,332 --> 00:31:16,250 in modern horror 676 00:31:16,292 --> 00:31:20,254 is the final sequence in "Let the Right One In." 677 00:31:21,297 --> 00:31:24,175 A gang of bullies sees 678 00:31:24,217 --> 00:31:26,344 a very vulnerable child 679 00:31:26,386 --> 00:31:28,679 and shove him underwater. 680 00:31:28,721 --> 00:31:31,599 And there is a 2½ minute shot 681 00:31:31,641 --> 00:31:34,060 of the boy's head being held underwater, 682 00:31:34,102 --> 00:31:35,686 and you're seeing him desperately trying 683 00:31:35,728 --> 00:31:38,648 to get back to the surface and breathe. 684 00:31:40,233 --> 00:31:42,944 But meanwhile, above the water... 685 00:31:44,654 --> 00:31:46,572 This pipsqueak vampire, 686 00:31:46,614 --> 00:31:49,367 who loves the little boy, has turned up... 687 00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:54,080 And is beginning to butcher the bullies. 688 00:31:58,167 --> 00:32:00,128 What was beautiful about that story 689 00:32:00,169 --> 00:32:04,215 is that a monster comes to the rescue 690 00:32:04,257 --> 00:32:07,301 when humanity fails this young man, 691 00:32:07,343 --> 00:32:10,430 and who could blame him for choosing the monster 692 00:32:10,471 --> 00:32:12,265 when humanity was so horrible? 693 00:32:14,058 --> 00:32:16,185 The title has a double meaning. 694 00:32:16,227 --> 00:32:17,895 It could mean that you should let 695 00:32:17,937 --> 00:32:20,481 the right person get into your life, 696 00:32:20,523 --> 00:32:22,650 or, as it is for Eli, 697 00:32:22,692 --> 00:32:25,403 someone has to tell her that she can come in. 698 00:32:44,213 --> 00:32:47,633 For me, the part of the vampire legend 699 00:32:47,675 --> 00:32:49,510 that has always remained really powerful 700 00:32:49,552 --> 00:32:52,722 is this idea that they have to be invited in. 701 00:32:54,515 --> 00:32:57,226 Open the window, Mark. 702 00:32:57,268 --> 00:32:59,645 "Let me in. 703 00:32:59,687 --> 00:33:01,481 Let me in." 704 00:33:01,522 --> 00:33:03,024 Let me in. 705 00:33:03,065 --> 00:33:04,484 It's okay, Mark. I'm your friend. 706 00:33:04,525 --> 00:33:06,736 So many times in people's lives, 707 00:33:06,777 --> 00:33:08,696 you know, whatever that thing is 708 00:33:08,738 --> 00:33:11,282 that's draining them of their life and vitality, 709 00:33:11,324 --> 00:33:13,159 so often, they invited it in... 710 00:33:14,577 --> 00:33:16,078 If it's drugs, if it's alcohol, 711 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,498 if it's someone who's just abusive, 712 00:33:18,539 --> 00:33:20,708 you know, who's cruel to you. 713 00:33:20,750 --> 00:33:22,752 A lot of vampire stories 714 00:33:22,793 --> 00:33:25,046 are about inviting in something 715 00:33:25,087 --> 00:33:26,523 that you think will bring you bliss... 716 00:33:26,547 --> 00:33:28,424 What's wrong, baby? 717 00:33:28,466 --> 00:33:30,051 And that destroys you instead. 718 00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:37,934 Do you think, with your crosses 719 00:33:37,975 --> 00:33:40,603 and your wafers, you can destroy me? 720 00:33:40,645 --> 00:33:42,522 Me? 721 00:33:42,563 --> 00:33:45,733 Traditionally, vampires have split personalities. 722 00:33:45,775 --> 00:33:48,569 They're both charming and terrifying, 723 00:33:48,611 --> 00:33:50,738 passionate and deadly. 724 00:33:50,780 --> 00:33:52,490 But in the 21st century, 725 00:33:52,532 --> 00:33:54,825 we've seen the two halves separate 726 00:33:54,867 --> 00:33:56,661 into the vampire as monstrous killer... 727 00:33:58,329 --> 00:34:00,623 And the vampire as dreamboat boyfriend. 728 00:34:01,999 --> 00:34:04,293 Vampires, ever flexible, 729 00:34:04,335 --> 00:34:06,712 are being reshaped to suit audiences 730 00:34:06,754 --> 00:34:10,216 whose needs are often overlooked, 731 00:34:10,258 --> 00:34:12,927 like the millions of women and teenage girls 732 00:34:12,969 --> 00:34:15,972 who made "Twilight" the most commercially successful 733 00:34:16,013 --> 00:34:18,766 vampire film of all time. 734 00:34:29,902 --> 00:34:31,737 Based on the best-selling books 735 00:34:31,779 --> 00:34:34,115 by Stephenie Meyer, "Twilight" reimagines 736 00:34:34,156 --> 00:34:36,784 the vampire story as a teen romance 737 00:34:36,826 --> 00:34:40,329 told from a young woman's point of view. 738 00:34:40,371 --> 00:34:42,415 The thing that's kind of cool about "Twilight" 739 00:34:42,456 --> 00:34:45,042 is, you have an ordinary girl that moves 740 00:34:45,084 --> 00:34:47,628 to this small town in Washington. 741 00:34:47,670 --> 00:34:50,840 She has to live with her dad for a while. 742 00:34:50,881 --> 00:34:53,843 She feels like a misfit, awkward. 743 00:34:53,884 --> 00:34:55,386 And first day of school, 744 00:34:55,428 --> 00:34:58,931 she is kind of attracted to this amazing 745 00:34:58,973 --> 00:35:01,976 and strange kid, Edward. 746 00:35:02,018 --> 00:35:04,562 Stephenie Meyer, she had a dream 747 00:35:04,604 --> 00:35:06,188 about this vampire. 748 00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:08,983 When the vampire was out in the sunlight, 749 00:35:09,025 --> 00:35:12,528 instead of withering, it did the opposite. 750 00:35:12,570 --> 00:35:15,906 It glowed and glittered and sparkled. 751 00:35:15,948 --> 00:35:17,742 This is what I am. 752 00:35:19,702 --> 00:35:21,871 Well, my vampires break a lot of the rules... 753 00:35:21,912 --> 00:35:24,206 if there can really be rules about fictional characters. 754 00:35:24,248 --> 00:35:25,875 Really, you can do what you want. 755 00:35:25,916 --> 00:35:28,085 Obviously it's a fantasy... 756 00:35:28,127 --> 00:35:30,254 That you're gonna have the most handsome, 757 00:35:30,296 --> 00:35:32,256 beautiful, amazing guy in the world 758 00:35:32,298 --> 00:35:34,925 that's madly in love with you and will take care of you 759 00:35:34,967 --> 00:35:36,344 and protect you. 760 00:35:40,097 --> 00:35:42,767 I mean, it's a great fantasy. 761 00:35:42,808 --> 00:35:44,644 It's not, "We shouldn't kiss 762 00:35:44,685 --> 00:35:46,771 "because maybe won't like each other 763 00:35:46,812 --> 00:35:49,190 or maybe we're gonna make someone else upset." 764 00:35:49,231 --> 00:35:51,067 You're adding this element of, 765 00:35:51,108 --> 00:35:54,320 "If I lose control, I might kill you," 766 00:35:54,362 --> 00:35:56,697 which is so dark and so dramatic, 767 00:35:56,739 --> 00:35:59,659 but at the same time, that's what it feels like 768 00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:00,868 when you're young. 769 00:36:00,910 --> 00:36:02,411 It feels like life and death. 770 00:36:02,453 --> 00:36:04,538 Just stay very still. 771 00:36:04,580 --> 00:36:07,416 I really thought it was a fantastic challenge 772 00:36:07,458 --> 00:36:10,378 to create that emotional intoxication 773 00:36:10,419 --> 00:36:12,672 - of first love. - Don't move. 774 00:36:14,423 --> 00:36:17,593 I thought, "Can I show that on-screen? 775 00:36:17,594 --> 00:36:19,638 "Can I make people as crazy 776 00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:21,472 "about a cinematic version 777 00:36:21,514 --> 00:36:24,225 as the book made people crazy?" 778 00:36:26,769 --> 00:36:28,104 And yeah, I think we did 779 00:36:28,145 --> 00:36:30,022 make them pretty crazy. 780 00:36:34,568 --> 00:36:38,489 You can't dismiss something that had such a giant hold on... 781 00:36:38,531 --> 00:36:40,574 on fandom. 782 00:36:40,616 --> 00:36:43,160 I remember going to Comic-Con a few years back 783 00:36:43,202 --> 00:36:44,870 when the second "Twilight" movie 784 00:36:44,912 --> 00:36:46,872 was coming out, and kids were camped out 785 00:36:46,914 --> 00:36:48,999 on the lawn for 24 hours. 786 00:36:49,041 --> 00:36:52,002 So obviously, it had something to say. 787 00:36:53,796 --> 00:36:55,881 You don't know how long I've waited for you. 788 00:36:55,923 --> 00:36:58,843 I honestly find its gender and sexual politics 789 00:36:58,884 --> 00:37:02,138 pretty problematic, but that being said, 790 00:37:02,179 --> 00:37:03,931 I think it takes 791 00:37:03,973 --> 00:37:06,350 women's desires seriously 792 00:37:06,392 --> 00:37:10,104 in a way that most Hollywood cinema does not, 793 00:37:10,146 --> 00:37:12,314 most popular culture in general does not. 794 00:37:12,356 --> 00:37:15,234 The focus is more on her desire for Edward, 795 00:37:15,276 --> 00:37:16,777 on her attraction to Edward 796 00:37:16,819 --> 00:37:18,988 and at some points Jacob. 797 00:37:19,029 --> 00:37:21,449 It's not about them lusting after her. 798 00:37:25,578 --> 00:37:28,205 There was a photo of one kid at Comic-Con 799 00:37:28,247 --> 00:37:29,641 when "Twilight" came out... there was, like, 800 00:37:29,665 --> 00:37:31,667 some angry kid with a huge placard that said, 801 00:37:31,709 --> 00:37:33,836 - "Nosferatu didn't sparkle." - Yeah. 802 00:37:33,878 --> 00:37:36,130 And I was like, "That's me. I'm that kid." 803 00:37:36,172 --> 00:37:37,840 The whole vampire idea, 804 00:37:37,882 --> 00:37:40,926 the romantic vampire, has always been popular 805 00:37:40,968 --> 00:37:42,636 with teens, 806 00:37:42,678 --> 00:37:44,889 early 20s and things... particularly women... 807 00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:47,850 because it's seen as almost, like, 808 00:37:47,892 --> 00:37:49,518 no-fault sex. 809 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,312 And after all, what's he really gonna do? 810 00:37:51,353 --> 00:37:53,105 He's gonna give you a great big hickey, 811 00:37:53,147 --> 00:37:54,774 like on Lover's Lane. 812 00:37:56,358 --> 00:37:58,944 But that's not the way it's supposed to... to be. 813 00:37:58,986 --> 00:38:02,323 To my mind, I'm a classicist, man. 814 00:38:04,867 --> 00:38:07,161 Hey! Stop! 815 00:38:07,203 --> 00:38:09,205 Who are you people? 816 00:38:12,708 --> 00:38:15,336 "30 Days of Night" took vampires back 817 00:38:15,377 --> 00:38:17,755 to their dark and vicious roots. 818 00:38:17,797 --> 00:38:20,800 There are no sparkling, romantic demigods here... 819 00:38:20,841 --> 00:38:22,760 Just ancient 820 00:38:22,802 --> 00:38:26,180 evil predators. 821 00:38:27,848 --> 00:38:31,143 Well, in "30 Days of Night," my character is... 822 00:38:31,185 --> 00:38:34,730 is a sheriff up in Barrow, Alaska. 823 00:38:34,772 --> 00:38:36,440 And in Barrow, Alaska, 824 00:38:36,482 --> 00:38:38,818 apparently, the sun is down 825 00:38:38,859 --> 00:38:40,903 for almost a month in the middle of winter. 826 00:38:40,945 --> 00:38:42,696 Hence the "30 Days of Night" title. 827 00:38:45,658 --> 00:38:47,660 Vampires have figured out that this is 828 00:38:47,701 --> 00:38:50,454 a really good place to go and have a low-effort meal. 829 00:38:50,496 --> 00:38:52,056 We have to cut off, or they'll hear you. 830 00:38:52,081 --> 00:38:54,375 The vampires close in on the town... 831 00:38:54,416 --> 00:38:56,210 I'll call you back when it's safe. 832 00:38:56,252 --> 00:38:58,754 And then the rest of us who are there 833 00:38:58,796 --> 00:39:00,965 try to survive for a month. 834 00:39:02,258 --> 00:39:03,384 Jesus! 835 00:39:03,385 --> 00:39:05,387 Christ! 836 00:39:09,306 --> 00:39:11,684 We spend a lot of time running away. 837 00:39:13,394 --> 00:39:15,604 David Slade's "30 Days of Night"... 838 00:39:15,646 --> 00:39:17,106 which was written by Steve Niles 839 00:39:17,147 --> 00:39:18,524 and based on the graphic novel... 840 00:39:18,566 --> 00:39:20,192 that was the complete antithesis 841 00:39:20,234 --> 00:39:21,902 of what "Twilight" represented. 842 00:39:25,406 --> 00:39:27,032 With "Twilight," 843 00:39:27,074 --> 00:39:28,868 there was always this friendly side. 844 00:39:28,909 --> 00:39:30,846 They always managed to find, like, a friendly human side 845 00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:32,955 to the vampires. 846 00:39:32,997 --> 00:39:35,165 When I was doing the scripts for "30 Days of Night," 847 00:39:35,207 --> 00:39:38,335 I really tried to go against what everybody else was doing. 848 00:39:40,045 --> 00:39:43,507 You had vampires returning to their feral form, 849 00:39:43,549 --> 00:39:44,925 almost Nosferatu-like 850 00:39:44,967 --> 00:39:47,303 but something completely different. 851 00:39:48,762 --> 00:39:51,390 These are land sharks 852 00:39:51,432 --> 00:39:54,518 that will kill you, you know, just as soon as look at you. 853 00:39:56,812 --> 00:39:59,356 By stripping the sexuality 854 00:39:59,398 --> 00:40:01,817 out of the myth, "30 Days of Night" 855 00:40:01,859 --> 00:40:04,111 drilled deep into the primal fear 856 00:40:04,153 --> 00:40:07,239 at the heart of every vampire story: 857 00:40:07,281 --> 00:40:09,783 the fear of death. 858 00:40:12,202 --> 00:40:14,121 One of the most beautiful things about 859 00:40:14,163 --> 00:40:16,582 the horror genre is that the stakes 860 00:40:16,624 --> 00:40:18,292 are implicitly high, 861 00:40:18,334 --> 00:40:20,169 because you're dealing with life and death. 862 00:40:22,296 --> 00:40:24,965 And that gives horror 863 00:40:25,007 --> 00:40:27,509 a certain operatic quality to it, 864 00:40:27,551 --> 00:40:29,762 where there is no choice 865 00:40:29,803 --> 00:40:32,389 but to survive and thrive 866 00:40:32,431 --> 00:40:34,642 or be one of the body count. 867 00:40:37,895 --> 00:40:40,731 Ultimately, the story of the vampire 868 00:40:40,773 --> 00:40:43,317 is the story of our tenuous grip on life. 869 00:40:43,359 --> 00:40:45,110 I don't want to die. 870 00:40:45,152 --> 00:40:47,404 The bite of the vampire symbolizes 871 00:40:47,446 --> 00:40:49,657 the hundreds of things that could kill us 872 00:40:49,698 --> 00:40:52,284 at any time, no matter how healthy or safe 873 00:40:52,326 --> 00:40:53,827 we think we are. 874 00:40:55,496 --> 00:40:58,082 Your life force will never be 875 00:40:58,123 --> 00:41:01,961 steadily drained by an implacable 876 00:41:02,002 --> 00:41:03,504 supernatural foe. 877 00:41:05,547 --> 00:41:07,091 But some people 878 00:41:07,132 --> 00:41:09,176 will face cancer 879 00:41:09,218 --> 00:41:10,928 in their life. 880 00:41:10,970 --> 00:41:12,554 Fiction gives us 881 00:41:12,596 --> 00:41:15,599 a safe playground to consider 882 00:41:15,641 --> 00:41:17,476 what it would be like to be in 883 00:41:17,518 --> 00:41:19,204 a life-or-death battle with something draining us. 884 00:41:25,985 --> 00:41:28,821 Vampire stories will remain powerful 885 00:41:28,862 --> 00:41:31,698 as long as we are organic 886 00:41:31,699 --> 00:41:33,535 and full of blood. 887 00:41:33,575 --> 00:41:37,162 And the blood can be corrupted. 888 00:41:37,204 --> 00:41:39,999 So I think the fanged ones 889 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,750 will be around for a while longer. 60638

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