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Vampires are about sex
and death.
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When the vampire bites...
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Women swoon...
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They're dangerous
because they're seductive.
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What is seductive
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is often bad for us,
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is often dangerous.
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It's not brutality
for the sake
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of being brutal.
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It's survival.
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They are a drug addict,
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a historian,
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a serial killer,
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a hopeless romantic
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all at the same time.
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It deals with the exchange
of fluids.
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It deals with blood.
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It's too late.
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My blood is in your veins.
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Vampires are supposed
to be awful...
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the stink of the grave,
his fetid breath.
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It was supposed to be ugly
and nasty.
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And then
there was "Twilight."
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What's good about
a "Twilight" movie is,
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it makes everybody
who watches it
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feel like a 13-year-old girl.
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Vampires are the only ones
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that you can really
make sexy and beautiful.
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We are immortal.
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They've always been...
since Anne Rice, anyway...
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allowed to be gay
or bisexual.
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- This idea of...
- Do you wanna do me now?
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The taboo...
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Darkness.
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And, you know, if you're
gonna tangle
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with the darkness...
with the sexuality
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and all of that...
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Well, death
is all around you.
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Naughty little girl.
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Over the last 25 years,
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we've seen an explosion
of vampire stories.
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- You're wrong.
- "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
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gave us bloodsucking bad boys
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the heroine both detested
and desired.
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"Underworld" and "Blade"
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recast vampires
as action heroes.
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Art-horror films like
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"A Girl Walks Home Alone
At Night"
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and "The Addiction"
used vampires to tell
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allegorical tales
about drug abuse.
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The "Twilight" books
and films doubled down
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on vampire romance...
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While sex and splatter
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dominated the teen drama
"The Vampire Diaries"
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and the very adult series
"True Blood."
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Modern vampires
come in many guises,
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but they all address
a singular hunger.
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It's bringing together
the two things
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that media culture seems
to love the most:
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sex and violence.
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You know, it allows them
to coexist
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in one figure.
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Vampires have been
violent avatars of the erotic
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going all the way back
to the king daddy
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of bloodsuckers.
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I am Dracula.
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- I am Dracula.
- I...
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am Dracula.
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Created in 1897
by novelist Bram Stoker,
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Dracula is a true icon
of horror.
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But Stoker's Dracula
was far more monstrous
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than the polished aristocrats
we think of today.
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I grew up reading "Dracula"
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and reading about
the stink of the grave,
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the graveyard earth
that the vampire was in
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with the worms crawling in it,
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about his fetid breath.
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It was supposed to be ugly
and nasty.
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Yeah,
he's the original stalker,
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the original scary stranger,
you know,
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the original serial killer.
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One of the reasons
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that Dracula has persisted
for so long...
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as opposed to
the Frankenstein monster,
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as opposed to the Wolfman
or the Mummy...
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was, he was a character.
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He was a genuine...
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character.
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The first unauthorized
adaptation of "Dracula"
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was the German silent film
"Nosferatu."
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It was released in 1922,
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four years after the end
of the First World War.
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The makers of "Nosferatu"
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intended that vampire
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to represent war itself...
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War as a cosmic vampire
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that had drained the blood
out of Europe.
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And you watch
the original "Nosferatu"...
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- Yeah.
- It was terrifying.
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And I thought it was so cool
that Tobe Hooper went
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to that kind of vampire
in "Salem's Lot."
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The bald vampire
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with the teeth like that
always freaked me out.
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The first official
adaptation of "Dracula"
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starred the incomparable
Bela Lugosi.
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Listen to them.
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The children of the night...
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what music they make.
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We all know the story:
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looking for new blood,
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the undead Count Dracula
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relocates from Transylvania
to England.
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Once in London,
the vampire begins to feed.
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He takes a special interest
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in corrupting a young woman
whom he wants
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to turn into
his vampire bride.
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In 1931,
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which was the worst year
of the Great Depression,
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Universal took a chance
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on "Dracula"
and "Frankenstein."
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We have this American public
that has just endured
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the beginning
of the Great Depression.
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They wanted to have some sort
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of foreign presence
to go and blame
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for everything
that was happening around them:
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for losing their jobs,
for not being able
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to feed their family.
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People were on edge,
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and "Dracula" was
the mysterious draining force
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that was at everybody's door.
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My blood now flows
through her veins.
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I find it fascinating
that anybody
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for years, decades to come
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who wanted to imitate
Count Dracula
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did it with a Hungarian accent.
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- I am Dracula.
- Greetings.
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It is I, the Count.
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Welcome
to Hotel Transylvania!
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I didn't know Bela Lugosi
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was the name of a man.
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I thought all
the horror film monsters
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and all the actors
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worked as a team...
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And the name of the team
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was Bela Lugosi.
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Lugosi was a hard act
to follow.
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It took nearly three decades
for another Dracula
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to make his mark.
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But Christopher Lee
made the role his own.
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Mr. Harker.
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I'm glad
that you've arrived safely.
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Count Dracula?
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I am Dracula,
and I welcome you to my house.
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Lee was both dapper,
aristocratic,
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and terrifying.
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Very different
than Lugosi's count.
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Bela Lugosi's Dracula
never had fangs.
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They felt that fangs
would have been
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too suggestive of penetration.
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Well, Christopher Lee...
not only did he have fangs,
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but as he's approaching
these women,
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who at first
are intimidated, they...
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start undoing their blouse,
and they're like,
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you know, "Come at me.
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This is awesome."
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It's so interesting,
the fear of female sexuality
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that is so powerful
in "Dracula,"
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the idea of a woman
after having had sex,
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basically,
after having been bitten
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and then transforming
into this ravenous
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sexual creature.
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It's... it's, like, so...
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it's great,
'cause horror allows you
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to really express your fears
in a very obvious way.
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You know, go to town on them.
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Come.
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Let me kiss you.
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There have been
many Draculas since Lugosi
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and Lee,
but one truly stands out...
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Gary Oldman
in Francis Ford Coppola's
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epic 1992 adaptation.
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Gary Oldman,
who plays Dracula,
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we have him being suave
and sophisticated and sexy,
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and then the next minute,
he's transforming into a wolf...
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a large wolf.
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And he is just maiming people.
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He's vicious.
He's terrible.
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And somehow, it works.
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I loved Coppola's "Dracula,"
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just the level
of art direction,
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just how creative that was
as a film...
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And what a mood it set.
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When he was doing
Dracula point-of-view stuff,
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the way that he shot that
was so exhilarating.
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I think that helps paint
a pretty picture...
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Over the brutality of it all,
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and I think that is specific
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to the vampire genre.
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We're strong in the Lord
and the power of his might.
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I bring you from shadow
into light!
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I cast you out,
the Prince of Darkness!
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We see this
extremely sympathetic Dracula
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because he misses his...
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his wife, who was killed,
and then sees
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sort of her reincarnation
in this modern-day gal.
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That completely revolutionized
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Dracula performances.
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It changed the... the filmic
Dracula mythos.
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And, in fact,
you could argue
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that we're still riding
the wave from that film
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even today.
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Mina.
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What Coppola did was,
he portrayed
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a very tragic figure.
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The guy just wants
to be loved.
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I mean, that's what all of
the Universal monster movies
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have in common
is that they're all just
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male archetypes who want
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the love and affection
of a woman
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but because they're monsters,
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they're sort of scorned
and rejected.
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The story of Dracula
continues to resonate today.
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But its fear
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of female sexuality
is firmly rooted
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in 19th-century England.
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In the late 20th century,
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novelist Anne Rice created
a new breed of vampire
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suited for the modern world,
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vampires as tortured heroes,
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amoral villains, and avatars
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of alternative sexuality.
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Pretend to drink, at least.
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Such fine crystal
shouldn't go to waste.
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Anne Rice dominates
modern vampire fiction.
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Her books turned the genre
inside out.
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Rice's vampires
were beautiful monsters
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with tortured souls.
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As soon as I started to write
what's called fantasy,
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I was able to touch reality.
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I was able to talk
about my world.
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I was able to talk
about good and evil
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and guilt and pain
and suffering,
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but I had to do it
in that context,
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with that frame
of fantasy around it.
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Rice's first novel,
"Interview with the Vampire,"
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was made into a film
in 1994.
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The story follows
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the centuries-long
relationship
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between the vampire Lestat
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and Louis, a troubled
New Orleans aristocrat.
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Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt...
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two of the biggest stars
of modern times...
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played the leads.
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The Paris opera is in town.
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We can try
some French cui... cuisine.
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Forgive me if I have
a lingering respect for life.
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The Louis character
didn't want to be a vampire,
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and he didn't like
the brutal killing aspect.
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And then you have Lestat,
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who just enjoys and revels
in all of it.
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- Why do you do this?
- I like to do it.
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I enjoy it.
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There was a lot
of controversy
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about casting Tom Cruise,
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but between Tom Cruise,
Brad Pitt,
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and Kirsten Dunst, I thought
they really nailed it.
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I was surprised.
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I went in skeptical
but came out a fan.
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You see the old woman?
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That will never happen to you.
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You will never grow old,
and you will never die.
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That goes down as one
of the great
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child's performances.
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Once in a while, it happens
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that a kid can kick
so much ass in a movie.
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You give her to me, Louis!
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Do this before you leave me!
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Oh, God.
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I love you still.
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My dark angel,
when you are gone.
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What do you think she is,
Madeleine?
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A doll?
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A child who cannot die.
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And the child who did die?
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Claudia's probably
the best part of the movie.
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You know, the idea
of a vampire
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being forced to age
in the body
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of, what, a ten-year-old girl?
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To see a character
that is granted immortality,
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but the downside being
she never gets to grow up
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to become a woman,
like, that's heartbreaking.
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Anne Rice lost a daughter
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at a very young age,
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and Claudia in the novel
was an homage to that.
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- Mama.
- Oh, shh.
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Hush, now.
Don't cry.
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- We'll find her.
- Mama.
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Oh.
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The vampires Lestat,
Louis, and Claudia
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form a family of outsiders
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headed by two fathers.
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The arrangement
suggested gay marriage
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years before that was accepted
by mainstream society.
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One happy family.
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The novel was intentionally
homoerotic.
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Even though I think
they downplayed
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a little bit
of the homoeroticism
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that was in novel,
it was still there.
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I've drained you
to the point of death.
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Using it as a cultural link
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with homosexuality...
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- Yes.
- Has been part
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of the vampire mystique,
but I mean,
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when you couldn't deal
with homo... homosexuality,
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you could deal with it
to some degree or another
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in vampire movies,
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even going back as far
as the '30s.
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- Really?
- Yeah, "Dracula's Daughter."
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I suppose you'll want these
pulled down, won't you?
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Yes.
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Probably the most famous
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lesbian sequence...
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- Mm-hmm.
- In an American movie
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made in the '30s.
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Why are you looking at me
that way?
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Won't I do?
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Yes, you'll do very well
indeed.
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00:15:14,164 --> 00:15:17,334
The suggestion
of a female seduction
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is just right there.
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That's just... it's just there.
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It's not even subtext.
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You are out of your mind.
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It was commonplace,
particularly in the '70s...
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00:15:35,394 --> 00:15:38,230
lesbians would, like, say,
"Oh, wow, I-I just saw
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00:15:38,272 --> 00:15:40,357
"this magnificent movie
336
00:15:40,399 --> 00:15:43,318
"about these two women
that were in love, and it...
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00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,696
"and it really played
the relationship
338
00:15:45,737 --> 00:15:47,197
"for all it's worth.
339
00:15:47,239 --> 00:15:48,758
I mean, they're vampires,
all right, but..."
340
00:15:48,782 --> 00:15:49,884
"But..." That's... yeah.
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00:15:49,908 --> 00:15:51,201
Well, this is one
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00:15:51,243 --> 00:15:52,786
of the cool things
about horror
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00:15:52,828 --> 00:15:54,222
is that historically,
it's always been able
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to deal with taboo subjects.
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In recent times,
the challenging of taboos
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00:16:00,794 --> 00:16:02,379
was taken to new levels
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00:16:02,421 --> 00:16:04,840
by the television series
"True Blood."
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00:16:04,882 --> 00:16:07,926
It cut open the veins
of vampirism
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00:16:07,968 --> 00:16:11,180
and let the pansexual
eroticism gush out.
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00:16:16,226 --> 00:16:17,936
The many sides of vampires...
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00:16:17,978 --> 00:16:19,646
the danger and the romance,
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00:16:19,688 --> 00:16:21,398
the threat and the fun...
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00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,193
were all on full display
in the long-running
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00:16:24,234 --> 00:16:26,445
HBO series "True Blood,"
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00:16:26,487 --> 00:16:29,156
which debuted in 2008.
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00:16:29,198 --> 00:16:30,741
I...
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never thought I would be
having sex with you.
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00:16:34,369 --> 00:16:37,206
Who said anything
about sex?
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00:16:42,461 --> 00:16:45,464
"True Blood" was based on
the Southern Vampire Mysteries
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by Charlaine Harris.
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00:16:47,382 --> 00:16:49,885
Over seven seasons,
the series followed
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00:16:49,927 --> 00:16:52,429
its heroine,
Sookie Stackhouse,
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00:16:52,471 --> 00:16:54,765
as she made her way
through a world
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00:16:54,806 --> 00:16:57,226
where vampires emerged
from the shadows
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00:16:57,267 --> 00:16:59,978
and entered
mainstream society.
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00:17:01,813 --> 00:17:03,315
The epicenter
of "True Blood"
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00:17:03,357 --> 00:17:05,776
is in Louisiana,
368
00:17:05,817 --> 00:17:09,446
and, basically, vampires
have been around forever,
369
00:17:09,488 --> 00:17:11,323
but they kind of come out
of the closet...
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00:17:11,365 --> 00:17:12,991
or the coffin,
I should say...
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00:17:13,033 --> 00:17:17,955
and they decide to live
amongst the living.
372
00:17:17,996 --> 00:17:20,582
As you can see,
I did not burst into flames.
373
00:17:22,125 --> 00:17:24,461
It becomes a metaphor
for so many
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00:17:24,503 --> 00:17:26,630
different rights movements
375
00:17:26,672 --> 00:17:30,050
and how they're both
ostracized.
376
00:17:30,092 --> 00:17:32,177
When I started
on "True Blood,"
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00:17:32,219 --> 00:17:34,263
all we knew
about Pam at the beginning
378
00:17:34,304 --> 00:17:37,266
was that she was
the lieutenant
379
00:17:37,307 --> 00:17:39,268
to this vampire, her maker,
380
00:17:39,309 --> 00:17:41,728
and that she cared
about nothing else.
381
00:17:41,770 --> 00:17:44,189
I find myself doubting
whether you were ever
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00:17:44,231 --> 00:17:46,191
truly human.
383
00:17:46,233 --> 00:17:47,484
Thank you.
384
00:17:47,526 --> 00:17:49,111
Pam...
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00:17:49,152 --> 00:17:51,280
objectifying,
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00:17:51,321 --> 00:17:52,573
murdering,
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00:17:52,614 --> 00:17:55,659
literally eating men
388
00:17:55,701 --> 00:17:57,452
was one of
my favorite parts.
389
00:17:59,371 --> 00:18:01,498
I don't know a lot of men
390
00:18:01,540 --> 00:18:03,792
who are aware
of where to park
391
00:18:03,834 --> 00:18:06,128
in a parking lot...
not next to a minivan,
392
00:18:06,169 --> 00:18:08,547
to carry your keys
between your fingers;
393
00:18:08,589 --> 00:18:10,382
when you're parking
at the airport,
394
00:18:10,424 --> 00:18:12,676
to look for where
it's most lit.
395
00:18:12,718 --> 00:18:15,095
It's just part
of a woman's life.
396
00:18:15,137 --> 00:18:17,598
To be the top of the food chain
397
00:18:17,639 --> 00:18:19,808
was so refreshing.
398
00:18:19,850 --> 00:18:23,478
I'll give you 24 hours
to deliver that witch to me.
399
00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,565
And if you don't,
I will personally eat,
400
00:18:26,607 --> 00:18:29,276
, and kill
all three of you.
401
00:18:31,028 --> 00:18:32,529
I was never good
at the vampire teeth,
402
00:18:32,571 --> 00:18:34,072
and I never got better.
403
00:18:34,114 --> 00:18:35,782
Huh?
What... what's that?
404
00:18:35,824 --> 00:18:37,868
I-I can't understand you.
405
00:18:37,909 --> 00:18:39,762
The thing I struggled with
the most was the teeth...
406
00:18:39,786 --> 00:18:41,496
talking with the teeth.
407
00:18:41,538 --> 00:18:43,540
What do you expect
when you come into my house
408
00:18:43,582 --> 00:18:45,082
and with me?
409
00:18:45,083 --> 00:18:46,793
It's hard trying to act
410
00:18:46,835 --> 00:18:49,546
with a piece of your body
that you don't normally have.
411
00:18:52,007 --> 00:18:54,051
It's been a long time
since I've done this.
412
00:18:54,092 --> 00:18:56,261
- A man?
- No.
413
00:18:56,303 --> 00:18:57,846
A vampire.
414
00:18:57,888 --> 00:19:00,098
"True Blood's"
often comic tone
415
00:19:00,140 --> 00:19:02,392
masked its serious intent:
416
00:19:02,434 --> 00:19:04,686
trying to make sense
of sexual identity
417
00:19:04,728 --> 00:19:06,605
in the 21st century.
418
00:19:13,195 --> 00:19:15,947
My character
was mainly gay...
419
00:19:15,989 --> 00:19:18,742
There's vampire
in your cleavage.
420
00:19:19,868 --> 00:19:22,329
Okay, ew.
421
00:19:22,371 --> 00:19:24,373
She just had it with men.
422
00:19:24,414 --> 00:19:27,793
She came from a time...
in early 1900...
423
00:19:27,834 --> 00:19:30,212
where women had
a very hard time.
424
00:19:30,253 --> 00:19:31,922
That's right, whore.
425
00:19:34,383 --> 00:19:36,718
Vampires just in general
kind of go both ways.
426
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,178
They're kind of bisexual.
427
00:19:38,220 --> 00:19:40,347
They kind of... whatever,
and so I love
428
00:19:40,389 --> 00:19:43,016
that writers explored sexuality
429
00:19:43,058 --> 00:19:45,227
in relationships
with characters that wouldn't
430
00:19:45,268 --> 00:19:47,979
normally, I think, maybe have
a relationship like that.
431
00:19:48,021 --> 00:19:50,107
It's appealing because
we live in the United States
432
00:19:50,148 --> 00:19:53,026
and a culture
that is very sexual
433
00:19:53,068 --> 00:19:55,278
and yet very
sexually repressive.
434
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,533
The idea of the vampire
as a kind of sexy monster
435
00:19:59,574 --> 00:20:02,327
fits very well with
the United States' kind of
436
00:20:02,369 --> 00:20:06,790
complicated relationship
to sexuality.
437
00:20:06,832 --> 00:20:09,459
"True Blood" reflected
America's gradual acceptance
438
00:20:09,501 --> 00:20:11,503
of gay rights,
but it made a point
439
00:20:11,545 --> 00:20:14,089
of showing those rights
could be taken away
440
00:20:14,131 --> 00:20:16,425
at any time.
441
00:20:16,466 --> 00:20:18,260
Got to season six,
and it was about
442
00:20:18,301 --> 00:20:20,429
the vamp camp
and how the vampires
443
00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:22,889
were sort, of like,
being herded into these camps
444
00:20:22,931 --> 00:20:25,767
because of who they were
and they were a threat.
445
00:20:29,521 --> 00:20:31,982
And that directly correlates
just to social issues in life,
446
00:20:32,023 --> 00:20:34,401
of just being minorities
in life that sort of
447
00:20:34,443 --> 00:20:36,611
aren't feeling equal.
448
00:20:36,653 --> 00:20:38,280
So you're not gonna
read me my rights?
449
00:20:38,321 --> 00:20:40,490
You don't have any rights,
vampire.
450
00:20:40,532 --> 00:20:43,618
I am sure that
there's a lot of people
451
00:20:43,660 --> 00:20:45,245
in the "True Blood" audience
452
00:20:45,287 --> 00:20:48,498
who would not vote
for equal rights
453
00:20:48,540 --> 00:20:50,667
in a lot of arenas...
454
00:20:50,709 --> 00:20:53,462
But because they were
just being entertained...
455
00:20:53,503 --> 00:20:55,672
I did not see
that coming.
456
00:20:55,714 --> 00:20:58,175
That opens the opportunity
457
00:20:58,216 --> 00:21:00,635
through entertainment
to go, "Well,
458
00:21:00,677 --> 00:21:02,554
"you like this character,
459
00:21:02,596 --> 00:21:04,181
"you're rooting for him,
460
00:21:04,222 --> 00:21:06,975
and he sleeps with men
and women."
461
00:21:08,685 --> 00:21:10,520
"True Blood"
used the vampire metaphor
462
00:21:10,562 --> 00:21:14,107
to explore the shifting sands
of adult sexuality,
463
00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:17,319
but vampire stories
have also perfectly captured
464
00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:20,447
the joys and agonies
of being a teenager.
465
00:21:20,489 --> 00:21:22,199
What's happening to me, Star?
466
00:21:27,370 --> 00:21:28,955
The teenage years are filled
467
00:21:28,997 --> 00:21:31,583
with big emotions
and raging hormones.
468
00:21:31,625 --> 00:21:33,960
It's a time
when everything seems
469
00:21:34,002 --> 00:21:36,213
like a matter of life
and death.
470
00:21:36,254 --> 00:21:39,341
So when Joel Schumacher's
1987 film
471
00:21:39,382 --> 00:21:42,803
"The Lost Boys" put vampires
and teenagers together,
472
00:21:42,844 --> 00:21:45,639
a new kind of horror film
was born.
473
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,058
"Lost Boys" was great,
'cause who would imagine
474
00:21:48,099 --> 00:21:50,894
of taking the legend
of Peter Pan,
475
00:21:50,936 --> 00:21:53,313
of the boys who never grow up,
476
00:21:53,355 --> 00:21:55,982
who are just kind of rowdy
rock-and-roll vampires?
477
00:21:57,776 --> 00:21:59,616
The whole thing is set
to this kind of, like,
478
00:21:59,653 --> 00:22:01,988
'80s rock-and-roll thing:
479
00:22:02,030 --> 00:22:06,701
big hair; oiled-up,
shirtless saxophone players.
480
00:22:06,743 --> 00:22:09,120
That's "The Lost Boys."
481
00:22:10,872 --> 00:22:13,166
You've got a family
that moves to this town.
482
00:22:13,208 --> 00:22:17,754
The older son,
A, falls for a girl
483
00:22:17,796 --> 00:22:20,924
and, B, discovers
that the town is overrun
484
00:22:20,966 --> 00:22:23,301
with some very dark things
that are happening.
485
00:22:25,804 --> 00:22:28,056
You had this incredibly dark,
sexy component
486
00:22:28,098 --> 00:22:31,601
of, like, Kiefer Sutherland
and Jami Gertz.
487
00:22:31,643 --> 00:22:33,687
Like, that was...
they were beautiful.
488
00:22:33,728 --> 00:22:35,647
I'm over here, Michael.
489
00:22:35,689 --> 00:22:39,067
So it was sort of, like,
dark, glamorous, sexy...
490
00:22:39,109 --> 00:22:41,736
Be one of us.
491
00:22:41,778 --> 00:22:45,031
And it was about kids
saving the day.
492
00:22:45,073 --> 00:22:46,157
Hey, man.
493
00:22:46,199 --> 00:22:47,659
Read this.
494
00:22:47,701 --> 00:22:50,370
I told you, I don't like
horror comics.
495
00:22:50,412 --> 00:22:53,123
Think of it more
as a survival manual.
496
00:22:53,164 --> 00:22:56,293
We identified with it
because the two kids,
497
00:22:56,334 --> 00:22:58,962
you know, hung out
at a comic book shop,
498
00:22:59,004 --> 00:23:01,089
and they knew every rule
499
00:23:01,131 --> 00:23:03,174
about how to kill monsters.
500
00:23:03,216 --> 00:23:04,718
So that's what we were
all about.
501
00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:06,428
Awesome monster bashers.
502
00:23:06,469 --> 00:23:08,722
- The meanest.
- The baddest.
503
00:23:10,599 --> 00:23:12,434
Well, I-I based them
on Rambo.
504
00:23:12,475 --> 00:23:14,603
I told them, "I want you
to be like little Rambos."
505
00:23:14,644 --> 00:23:16,605
Okay, where's Nosferatu?
506
00:23:16,646 --> 00:23:18,106
- Who?
- Prince of Darkness.
507
00:23:18,148 --> 00:23:19,608
The night crawler.
The bloodsucker.
508
00:23:19,649 --> 00:23:20,984
El vampiro.
509
00:23:21,026 --> 00:23:22,319
For 13-year-old boys,
510
00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:23,737
I mean, they were obsessed
with it.
511
00:23:25,447 --> 00:23:28,033
"The Lost Boys"
was vampire and horror
512
00:23:28,074 --> 00:23:30,535
for the MTV generation,
513
00:23:30,577 --> 00:23:33,204
so the way it was edited,
the way it was scored,
514
00:23:33,246 --> 00:23:35,624
and the whole look
of the vampires.
515
00:23:35,665 --> 00:23:38,919
I told you to stay off
the boardwalk.
516
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,563
Even when I was auditioning,
it was like,
517
00:23:40,587 --> 00:23:42,023
"You guys are gonna be
riding Triumphs.
518
00:23:42,047 --> 00:23:43,548
You're gonna have
leather jackets on."
519
00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:45,383
Like, I thought I was gonna die
520
00:23:45,425 --> 00:23:47,510
when I saw what he wanted me
to look like.
521
00:23:47,552 --> 00:23:49,346
Marko.
522
00:23:49,387 --> 00:23:50,847
Good night, Michael.
523
00:23:50,889 --> 00:23:51,890
Bombs away.
524
00:23:51,932 --> 00:23:53,140
I was, like, you know,
525
00:23:53,141 --> 00:23:55,143
this scrappy NYU film student
526
00:23:55,185 --> 00:23:56,811
from, like,
the Lower East Side.
527
00:23:56,853 --> 00:23:58,456
I mean, who the hell else
was gonna get me
528
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,440
in 14-inch hair extensions?
529
00:24:00,482 --> 00:24:03,026
But I did... and I wore chaps,
you know?
530
00:24:03,068 --> 00:24:06,196
So that tells you a lot about
wanting to keep Joel happy.
531
00:24:09,115 --> 00:24:11,743
Come on, Michael!
532
00:24:11,785 --> 00:24:13,995
I said to everybody
at Warner Brothers,
533
00:24:14,037 --> 00:24:16,164
"Let's not make excuses
for this movie.
534
00:24:16,206 --> 00:24:18,208
It's a teenage vampire film."
535
00:24:18,249 --> 00:24:19,334
Come on!
536
00:24:19,376 --> 00:24:20,835
Can we make the best one
537
00:24:20,877 --> 00:24:22,045
that's ever been made?
538
00:24:22,087 --> 00:24:23,546
We can die trying.
539
00:24:29,678 --> 00:24:32,389
I think Joel may or may not
kill me for saying this,
540
00:24:32,430 --> 00:24:36,559
but I mean, the movie...
it's "Rebel Without a Cause."
541
00:24:36,601 --> 00:24:38,436
It's really a Nick Ray movie.
542
00:24:44,818 --> 00:24:46,861
It's a straight-up
543
00:24:46,903 --> 00:24:49,280
teen-sploitation,
544
00:24:49,322 --> 00:24:52,033
burgeoning sexuality.
545
00:24:52,075 --> 00:24:54,786
It's death, fear of mortality.
546
00:24:54,828 --> 00:24:56,413
I mean, it gets into
all the things
547
00:24:56,454 --> 00:24:59,207
that great vampire stories
get into.
548
00:24:59,249 --> 00:25:00,393
They must have hidden
their coffins
549
00:25:00,417 --> 00:25:02,502
around here someplace.
550
00:25:02,544 --> 00:25:04,379
There's nothing here.
Let's go, guys.
551
00:25:04,421 --> 00:25:07,716
Jesus!
552
00:25:10,010 --> 00:25:11,970
I end up getting staked
in the chest
553
00:25:12,012 --> 00:25:14,014
by the two Coreys...
554
00:25:14,055 --> 00:25:16,599
Good night, bloodsucker.
555
00:25:16,641 --> 00:25:18,184
No!
556
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,523
And then die in a bath
of glittery glue blood.
557
00:25:26,067 --> 00:25:28,486
So that's... to not spoil
all of it for you,
558
00:25:28,528 --> 00:25:29,904
that's basically my demise.
559
00:25:37,996 --> 00:25:40,373
All right, not to get
too heavy, but obviously,
560
00:25:40,415 --> 00:25:42,250
there's no way
it was lost on Joel
561
00:25:42,292 --> 00:25:44,794
that the movie was made
in the... in the era of AIDS,
562
00:25:44,836 --> 00:25:46,463
when that was really exploding.
563
00:25:46,504 --> 00:25:48,256
To date, the AIDS virus
has claimed
564
00:25:48,298 --> 00:25:50,508
over 24,000 lives,
565
00:25:50,550 --> 00:25:52,510
the majority homosexual men.
566
00:25:52,552 --> 00:25:54,721
The stigmatizing
of the gay population for,
567
00:25:54,763 --> 00:25:56,556
"Well, if you're gonna have
that kind of sex,
568
00:25:56,598 --> 00:25:58,141
then you're gonna die"...
569
00:25:58,183 --> 00:26:00,810
That was very much in the news
and in writing
570
00:26:00,852 --> 00:26:02,604
at the time in the '80s.
571
00:26:02,645 --> 00:26:03,855
It's too late.
572
00:26:03,897 --> 00:26:06,775
My blood is in your veins.
573
00:26:06,816 --> 00:26:09,277
When the AIDS crisis hit,
574
00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:11,487
there was suddenly
this renaissance
575
00:26:11,488 --> 00:26:13,282
of vampire movies.
576
00:26:13,323 --> 00:26:16,618
Vampires are metaphors,
clearly, for sex and death.
577
00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:22,207
I think it's a good example
of how a real-life trauma,
578
00:26:22,248 --> 00:26:25,418
especially one that seems
uncontrollable,
579
00:26:25,460 --> 00:26:29,589
is responded to by the creation
of horror entertainment.
580
00:26:33,468 --> 00:26:34,969
If people just want to see it
581
00:26:35,011 --> 00:26:36,471
as an entertainment,
that's fine.
582
00:26:36,513 --> 00:26:38,139
If they want to read
other things in it,
583
00:26:38,181 --> 00:26:39,474
that's fine.
584
00:26:39,516 --> 00:26:41,059
And if they don't enjoy it,
585
00:26:41,101 --> 00:26:42,894
well, that's a reaction too.
586
00:26:46,397 --> 00:26:49,651
Vampires remind us
that looks can be deceiving.
587
00:26:49,692 --> 00:26:52,195
We never really know
what lies beneath
588
00:26:52,237 --> 00:26:54,155
the surface of a stranger.
589
00:26:54,197 --> 00:26:55,341
I love you too, Seth.
590
00:27:00,036 --> 00:27:02,539
Back, spawn of Satan!
591
00:27:05,917 --> 00:27:07,418
My favorite thing, I think,
592
00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:09,629
about horror and fantasy
and science fiction
593
00:27:09,671 --> 00:27:10,671
is, you can make it up.
594
00:27:10,672 --> 00:27:12,215
It's... there are no rules.
595
00:27:12,257 --> 00:27:15,677
Any genre,
every individual project,
596
00:27:15,718 --> 00:27:18,221
you have to invent
your own rules,
597
00:27:18,263 --> 00:27:21,724
so in some movies, vampires
can't be seen in a mirror.
598
00:27:21,766 --> 00:27:24,727
In other movies, they have
to be killed with silver.
599
00:27:26,896 --> 00:27:28,648
What about crucifixes?
600
00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:31,568
Actually, I'm quite fond
of looking at crucifixes.
601
00:27:31,609 --> 00:27:33,862
How about the old
stake-through-the-heart thing?
602
00:27:33,903 --> 00:27:36,364
The vulgar fictions
of a demented Irishman.
603
00:27:36,406 --> 00:27:37,991
You can follow the rules
of the genre
604
00:27:38,032 --> 00:27:39,868
that have been placed down
by other movies
605
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:41,971
or other stories, or you can
kind of come up with your own.
606
00:27:46,457 --> 00:27:48,001
This is my kind of place.
607
00:27:48,042 --> 00:27:49,752
In "From Dusk Till Dawn,"
608
00:27:49,794 --> 00:27:52,213
two violent criminals
take refuge
609
00:27:52,255 --> 00:27:54,757
in a Mexican strip club.
610
00:27:56,885 --> 00:27:59,637
The main attraction
turns out to be the queen
611
00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:01,264
of the vampires.
612
00:28:10,106 --> 00:28:12,108
Dinner...
613
00:28:12,150 --> 00:28:13,776
Is served.
614
00:28:15,653 --> 00:28:17,780
I love the vampire makeup
in "Dusk Till Dawn."
615
00:28:17,822 --> 00:28:20,283
That, for me, was one
of the coolest reinventions.
616
00:28:22,243 --> 00:28:24,555
Robert Kurtzman came up with
the original treatment of it.
617
00:28:24,579 --> 00:28:26,789
His vampires did kind of point
618
00:28:26,831 --> 00:28:29,083
in this weird direction
619
00:28:29,125 --> 00:28:31,878
that I had never
quite seen before
620
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,546
for vampires.
621
00:28:33,588 --> 00:28:35,256
They could take on
the shapes of humans,
622
00:28:35,298 --> 00:28:37,884
like they do
in the Danny Trejo character,
623
00:28:37,926 --> 00:28:39,844
but their true selves
624
00:28:39,886 --> 00:28:43,014
were these bat-like creatures.
625
00:28:46,976 --> 00:28:48,686
I-I came up with
626
00:28:48,728 --> 00:28:52,315
a few mythology things
that would be specific
627
00:28:52,357 --> 00:28:54,525
to these creatures.
628
00:28:54,567 --> 00:28:57,487
One was, okay, yeah, they could
definitely be killed
629
00:28:57,528 --> 00:28:59,364
by a wooden stake
to the heart.
630
00:28:59,405 --> 00:29:01,824
That still worked.
631
00:29:01,866 --> 00:29:03,826
Their blood was green...
632
00:29:03,868 --> 00:29:06,329
And the reason I made
their blood green
633
00:29:06,371 --> 00:29:08,831
is because I knew
there would be vampire blood
634
00:29:08,873 --> 00:29:11,334
all over the place,
and it would be
635
00:29:11,376 --> 00:29:14,003
the color red, in particular,
that would get you an X.
636
00:29:14,045 --> 00:29:15,922
- NC-17.
- Yeah, an NC-17.
637
00:29:15,964 --> 00:29:18,883
So if we made
the vampire blood green...
638
00:29:18,925 --> 00:29:20,551
You could spray it
all over the place.
639
00:29:20,593 --> 00:29:22,469
We could spray it
all over the place,
640
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:24,848
and then the MPAA wouldn't be
so freaked out by that.
641
00:29:24,889 --> 00:29:27,100
And that ended up
actually working.
642
00:29:31,229 --> 00:29:33,856
"From Dusk Till Dawn"
reinvented vampires
643
00:29:33,898 --> 00:29:36,401
as nightmarish creatures
that used sex
644
00:29:36,442 --> 00:29:39,070
to lure in their victims.
645
00:29:40,863 --> 00:29:43,241
The horror masterpiece
"Let the Right One In"
646
00:29:43,283 --> 00:29:45,368
is another
brilliant reinvention.
647
00:29:47,412 --> 00:29:49,205
The vampire here lives within
648
00:29:49,247 --> 00:29:52,166
the classic boundaries
of only going out at night
649
00:29:52,208 --> 00:29:54,544
and viciously feeding
on humans.
650
00:29:56,421 --> 00:29:58,840
But this is not a story
about sex.
651
00:29:58,881 --> 00:30:00,550
It's about love and how much
652
00:30:00,591 --> 00:30:03,177
we are willing to accept
in the name of love.
653
00:30:07,056 --> 00:30:10,226
"Let the Right One In"
is about a boy called Oskar
654
00:30:10,268 --> 00:30:12,520
who is getting bullied
in school
655
00:30:12,562 --> 00:30:15,273
and is a bit lonely.
656
00:30:15,315 --> 00:30:18,568
And one day, he meets a girl
called Eli,
657
00:30:18,609 --> 00:30:20,820
and then they became friends.
658
00:30:22,947 --> 00:30:24,657
What's special about
my character, Eli,
659
00:30:24,699 --> 00:30:27,118
first of all
is that she's a vampire.
660
00:30:28,786 --> 00:30:30,580
She has lived
for a very long time.
661
00:30:33,541 --> 00:30:36,252
They cut off my lashes
and my eyebrows
662
00:30:36,294 --> 00:30:38,046
to not make me so female,
663
00:30:38,087 --> 00:30:40,423
and it's also not my voice
in the film.
664
00:30:40,465 --> 00:30:42,675
They wanted a voice
that wasn't so feminine.
665
00:30:47,221 --> 00:30:48,931
Vampires could be, like...
666
00:30:48,973 --> 00:30:51,100
they're, like, sexy
or dangerous
667
00:30:51,142 --> 00:30:52,935
or something like that,
and she's, like,
668
00:30:52,977 --> 00:30:55,063
the opposite, I think.
669
00:30:55,104 --> 00:30:56,981
Once you realize
who this girl is
670
00:30:57,023 --> 00:30:58,733
and how long
she's been around and...
671
00:30:58,775 --> 00:31:01,527
then it's very haunting
in the sense that, you know,
672
00:31:01,569 --> 00:31:03,571
she's taken on this kid
as her companion.
673
00:31:03,613 --> 00:31:05,490
And we already know
what's gonna happen to him.
674
00:31:10,578 --> 00:31:14,290
Probably the scariest
and most powerful sequence
675
00:31:14,332 --> 00:31:16,250
in modern horror
676
00:31:16,292 --> 00:31:20,254
is the final sequence
in "Let the Right One In."
677
00:31:21,297 --> 00:31:24,175
A gang of bullies sees
678
00:31:24,217 --> 00:31:26,344
a very vulnerable child
679
00:31:26,386 --> 00:31:28,679
and shove him underwater.
680
00:31:28,721 --> 00:31:31,599
And there is
a 2½ minute shot
681
00:31:31,641 --> 00:31:34,060
of the boy's head
being held underwater,
682
00:31:34,102 --> 00:31:35,686
and you're seeing him
desperately trying
683
00:31:35,728 --> 00:31:38,648
to get back to the surface
and breathe.
684
00:31:40,233 --> 00:31:42,944
But meanwhile,
above the water...
685
00:31:44,654 --> 00:31:46,572
This pipsqueak vampire,
686
00:31:46,614 --> 00:31:49,367
who loves the little boy,
has turned up...
687
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:54,080
And is beginning
to butcher the bullies.
688
00:31:58,167 --> 00:32:00,128
What was beautiful
about that story
689
00:32:00,169 --> 00:32:04,215
is that a monster
comes to the rescue
690
00:32:04,257 --> 00:32:07,301
when humanity fails
this young man,
691
00:32:07,343 --> 00:32:10,430
and who could blame him
for choosing the monster
692
00:32:10,471 --> 00:32:12,265
when humanity was so horrible?
693
00:32:14,058 --> 00:32:16,185
The title has
a double meaning.
694
00:32:16,227 --> 00:32:17,895
It could mean
that you should let
695
00:32:17,937 --> 00:32:20,481
the right person
get into your life,
696
00:32:20,523 --> 00:32:22,650
or, as it is for Eli,
697
00:32:22,692 --> 00:32:25,403
someone has to tell her
that she can come in.
698
00:32:44,213 --> 00:32:47,633
For me, the part
of the vampire legend
699
00:32:47,675 --> 00:32:49,510
that has always remained
really powerful
700
00:32:49,552 --> 00:32:52,722
is this idea that they have
to be invited in.
701
00:32:54,515 --> 00:32:57,226
Open the window, Mark.
702
00:32:57,268 --> 00:32:59,645
"Let me in.
703
00:32:59,687 --> 00:33:01,481
Let me in."
704
00:33:01,522 --> 00:33:03,024
Let me in.
705
00:33:03,065 --> 00:33:04,484
It's okay, Mark.
I'm your friend.
706
00:33:04,525 --> 00:33:06,736
So many times
in people's lives,
707
00:33:06,777 --> 00:33:08,696
you know,
whatever that thing is
708
00:33:08,738 --> 00:33:11,282
that's draining them
of their life and vitality,
709
00:33:11,324 --> 00:33:13,159
so often, they invited it in...
710
00:33:14,577 --> 00:33:16,078
If it's drugs,
if it's alcohol,
711
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,498
if it's someone
who's just abusive,
712
00:33:18,539 --> 00:33:20,708
you know, who's cruel to you.
713
00:33:20,750 --> 00:33:22,752
A lot of vampire stories
714
00:33:22,793 --> 00:33:25,046
are about
inviting in something
715
00:33:25,087 --> 00:33:26,523
that you think
will bring you bliss...
716
00:33:26,547 --> 00:33:28,424
What's wrong, baby?
717
00:33:28,466 --> 00:33:30,051
And that destroys you
instead.
718
00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:37,934
Do you think,
with your crosses
719
00:33:37,975 --> 00:33:40,603
and your wafers,
you can destroy me?
720
00:33:40,645 --> 00:33:42,522
Me?
721
00:33:42,563 --> 00:33:45,733
Traditionally, vampires
have split personalities.
722
00:33:45,775 --> 00:33:48,569
They're both charming
and terrifying,
723
00:33:48,611 --> 00:33:50,738
passionate and deadly.
724
00:33:50,780 --> 00:33:52,490
But in the 21st century,
725
00:33:52,532 --> 00:33:54,825
we've seen
the two halves separate
726
00:33:54,867 --> 00:33:56,661
into the vampire
as monstrous killer...
727
00:33:58,329 --> 00:34:00,623
And the vampire
as dreamboat boyfriend.
728
00:34:01,999 --> 00:34:04,293
Vampires, ever flexible,
729
00:34:04,335 --> 00:34:06,712
are being reshaped
to suit audiences
730
00:34:06,754 --> 00:34:10,216
whose needs
are often overlooked,
731
00:34:10,258 --> 00:34:12,927
like the millions of women
and teenage girls
732
00:34:12,969 --> 00:34:15,972
who made "Twilight" the most
commercially successful
733
00:34:16,013 --> 00:34:18,766
vampire film of all time.
734
00:34:29,902 --> 00:34:31,737
Based on
the best-selling books
735
00:34:31,779 --> 00:34:34,115
by Stephenie Meyer,
"Twilight" reimagines
736
00:34:34,156 --> 00:34:36,784
the vampire story
as a teen romance
737
00:34:36,826 --> 00:34:40,329
told from a young woman's
point of view.
738
00:34:40,371 --> 00:34:42,415
The thing that's
kind of cool about "Twilight"
739
00:34:42,456 --> 00:34:45,042
is, you have an ordinary girl
that moves
740
00:34:45,084 --> 00:34:47,628
to this small town
in Washington.
741
00:34:47,670 --> 00:34:50,840
She has to live with her dad
for a while.
742
00:34:50,881 --> 00:34:53,843
She feels like a misfit,
awkward.
743
00:34:53,884 --> 00:34:55,386
And first day of school,
744
00:34:55,428 --> 00:34:58,931
she is kind of attracted
to this amazing
745
00:34:58,973 --> 00:35:01,976
and strange kid, Edward.
746
00:35:02,018 --> 00:35:04,562
Stephenie Meyer,
she had a dream
747
00:35:04,604 --> 00:35:06,188
about this vampire.
748
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:08,983
When the vampire was out
in the sunlight,
749
00:35:09,025 --> 00:35:12,528
instead of withering,
it did the opposite.
750
00:35:12,570 --> 00:35:15,906
It glowed and glittered
and sparkled.
751
00:35:15,948 --> 00:35:17,742
This is what I am.
752
00:35:19,702 --> 00:35:21,871
Well, my vampires
break a lot of the rules...
753
00:35:21,912 --> 00:35:24,206
if there can really be rules
about fictional characters.
754
00:35:24,248 --> 00:35:25,875
Really, you can do
what you want.
755
00:35:25,916 --> 00:35:28,085
Obviously it's a fantasy...
756
00:35:28,127 --> 00:35:30,254
That you're gonna have
the most handsome,
757
00:35:30,296 --> 00:35:32,256
beautiful, amazing guy
in the world
758
00:35:32,298 --> 00:35:34,925
that's madly in love with you
and will take care of you
759
00:35:34,967 --> 00:35:36,344
and protect you.
760
00:35:40,097 --> 00:35:42,767
I mean,
it's a great fantasy.
761
00:35:42,808 --> 00:35:44,644
It's not,
"We shouldn't kiss
762
00:35:44,685 --> 00:35:46,771
"because maybe won't
like each other
763
00:35:46,812 --> 00:35:49,190
or maybe we're gonna make
someone else upset."
764
00:35:49,231 --> 00:35:51,067
You're adding this element of,
765
00:35:51,108 --> 00:35:54,320
"If I lose control,
I might kill you,"
766
00:35:54,362 --> 00:35:56,697
which is so dark
and so dramatic,
767
00:35:56,739 --> 00:35:59,659
but at the same time,
that's what it feels like
768
00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:00,868
when you're young.
769
00:36:00,910 --> 00:36:02,411
It feels like life and death.
770
00:36:02,453 --> 00:36:04,538
Just stay very still.
771
00:36:04,580 --> 00:36:07,416
I really thought it was
a fantastic challenge
772
00:36:07,458 --> 00:36:10,378
to create that
emotional intoxication
773
00:36:10,419 --> 00:36:12,672
- of first love.
- Don't move.
774
00:36:14,423 --> 00:36:17,593
I thought, "Can I show that
on-screen?
775
00:36:17,594 --> 00:36:19,638
"Can I make people as crazy
776
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:21,472
"about a cinematic version
777
00:36:21,514 --> 00:36:24,225
as the book
made people crazy?"
778
00:36:26,769 --> 00:36:28,104
And yeah, I think we did
779
00:36:28,145 --> 00:36:30,022
make them pretty crazy.
780
00:36:34,568 --> 00:36:38,489
You can't dismiss something
that had such a giant hold on...
781
00:36:38,531 --> 00:36:40,574
on fandom.
782
00:36:40,616 --> 00:36:43,160
I remember going
to Comic-Con a few years back
783
00:36:43,202 --> 00:36:44,870
when the second
"Twilight" movie
784
00:36:44,912 --> 00:36:46,872
was coming out,
and kids were camped out
785
00:36:46,914 --> 00:36:48,999
on the lawn for 24 hours.
786
00:36:49,041 --> 00:36:52,002
So obviously,
it had something to say.
787
00:36:53,796 --> 00:36:55,881
You don't know how long
I've waited for you.
788
00:36:55,923 --> 00:36:58,843
I honestly find its gender
and sexual politics
789
00:36:58,884 --> 00:37:02,138
pretty problematic,
but that being said,
790
00:37:02,179 --> 00:37:03,931
I think it takes
791
00:37:03,973 --> 00:37:06,350
women's desires seriously
792
00:37:06,392 --> 00:37:10,104
in a way that most
Hollywood cinema does not,
793
00:37:10,146 --> 00:37:12,314
most popular culture
in general does not.
794
00:37:12,356 --> 00:37:15,234
The focus is more
on her desire for Edward,
795
00:37:15,276 --> 00:37:16,777
on her attraction
to Edward
796
00:37:16,819 --> 00:37:18,988
and at some points Jacob.
797
00:37:19,029 --> 00:37:21,449
It's not about them
lusting after her.
798
00:37:25,578 --> 00:37:28,205
There was a photo
of one kid at Comic-Con
799
00:37:28,247 --> 00:37:29,641
when "Twilight" came out...
there was, like,
800
00:37:29,665 --> 00:37:31,667
some angry kid
with a huge placard that said,
801
00:37:31,709 --> 00:37:33,836
- "Nosferatu didn't sparkle."
- Yeah.
802
00:37:33,878 --> 00:37:36,130
And I was like, "That's me.
I'm that kid."
803
00:37:36,172 --> 00:37:37,840
The whole vampire idea,
804
00:37:37,882 --> 00:37:40,926
the romantic vampire,
has always been popular
805
00:37:40,968 --> 00:37:42,636
with teens,
806
00:37:42,678 --> 00:37:44,889
early 20s and things...
particularly women...
807
00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:47,850
because it's seen
as almost, like,
808
00:37:47,892 --> 00:37:49,518
no-fault sex.
809
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,312
And after all,
what's he really gonna do?
810
00:37:51,353 --> 00:37:53,105
He's gonna give you
a great big hickey,
811
00:37:53,147 --> 00:37:54,774
like on Lover's Lane.
812
00:37:56,358 --> 00:37:58,944
But that's not the way
it's supposed to... to be.
813
00:37:58,986 --> 00:38:02,323
To my mind,
I'm a classicist, man.
814
00:38:04,867 --> 00:38:07,161
Hey! Stop!
815
00:38:07,203 --> 00:38:09,205
Who are you people?
816
00:38:12,708 --> 00:38:15,336
"30 Days of Night"
took vampires back
817
00:38:15,377 --> 00:38:17,755
to their dark
and vicious roots.
818
00:38:17,797 --> 00:38:20,800
There are no sparkling,
romantic demigods here...
819
00:38:20,841 --> 00:38:22,760
Just ancient
820
00:38:22,802 --> 00:38:26,180
evil predators.
821
00:38:27,848 --> 00:38:31,143
Well, in "30 Days of Night,"
my character is...
822
00:38:31,185 --> 00:38:34,730
is a sheriff
up in Barrow, Alaska.
823
00:38:34,772 --> 00:38:36,440
And in Barrow, Alaska,
824
00:38:36,482 --> 00:38:38,818
apparently, the sun is down
825
00:38:38,859 --> 00:38:40,903
for almost a month
in the middle of winter.
826
00:38:40,945 --> 00:38:42,696
Hence the "30 Days of Night"
title.
827
00:38:45,658 --> 00:38:47,660
Vampires have figured out
that this is
828
00:38:47,701 --> 00:38:50,454
a really good place to go
and have a low-effort meal.
829
00:38:50,496 --> 00:38:52,056
We have to cut off,
or they'll hear you.
830
00:38:52,081 --> 00:38:54,375
The vampires close in
on the town...
831
00:38:54,416 --> 00:38:56,210
I'll call you back
when it's safe.
832
00:38:56,252 --> 00:38:58,754
And then the rest of us
who are there
833
00:38:58,796 --> 00:39:00,965
try to survive for a month.
834
00:39:02,258 --> 00:39:03,384
Jesus!
835
00:39:03,385 --> 00:39:05,387
Christ!
836
00:39:09,306 --> 00:39:11,684
We spend a lot of time
running away.
837
00:39:13,394 --> 00:39:15,604
David Slade's
"30 Days of Night"...
838
00:39:15,646 --> 00:39:17,106
which was written
by Steve Niles
839
00:39:17,147 --> 00:39:18,524
and based on
the graphic novel...
840
00:39:18,566 --> 00:39:20,192
that was
the complete antithesis
841
00:39:20,234 --> 00:39:21,902
of what "Twilight" represented.
842
00:39:25,406 --> 00:39:27,032
With "Twilight,"
843
00:39:27,074 --> 00:39:28,868
there was always
this friendly side.
844
00:39:28,909 --> 00:39:30,846
They always managed to find,
like, a friendly human side
845
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:32,955
to the vampires.
846
00:39:32,997 --> 00:39:35,165
When I was doing the scripts
for "30 Days of Night,"
847
00:39:35,207 --> 00:39:38,335
I really tried to go against
what everybody else was doing.
848
00:39:40,045 --> 00:39:43,507
You had vampires returning
to their feral form,
849
00:39:43,549 --> 00:39:44,925
almost Nosferatu-like
850
00:39:44,967 --> 00:39:47,303
but something
completely different.
851
00:39:48,762 --> 00:39:51,390
These are land sharks
852
00:39:51,432 --> 00:39:54,518
that will kill you, you know,
just as soon as look at you.
853
00:39:56,812 --> 00:39:59,356
By stripping the sexuality
854
00:39:59,398 --> 00:40:01,817
out of the myth,
"30 Days of Night"
855
00:40:01,859 --> 00:40:04,111
drilled deep
into the primal fear
856
00:40:04,153 --> 00:40:07,239
at the heart of every
vampire story:
857
00:40:07,281 --> 00:40:09,783
the fear of death.
858
00:40:12,202 --> 00:40:14,121
One of the most
beautiful things about
859
00:40:14,163 --> 00:40:16,582
the horror genre
is that the stakes
860
00:40:16,624 --> 00:40:18,292
are implicitly high,
861
00:40:18,334 --> 00:40:20,169
because you're dealing
with life and death.
862
00:40:22,296 --> 00:40:24,965
And that gives horror
863
00:40:25,007 --> 00:40:27,509
a certain operatic quality
to it,
864
00:40:27,551 --> 00:40:29,762
where there is no choice
865
00:40:29,803 --> 00:40:32,389
but to survive and thrive
866
00:40:32,431 --> 00:40:34,642
or be one of the body count.
867
00:40:37,895 --> 00:40:40,731
Ultimately, the story
of the vampire
868
00:40:40,773 --> 00:40:43,317
is the story
of our tenuous grip on life.
869
00:40:43,359 --> 00:40:45,110
I don't want to die.
870
00:40:45,152 --> 00:40:47,404
The bite of the vampire
symbolizes
871
00:40:47,446 --> 00:40:49,657
the hundreds of things
that could kill us
872
00:40:49,698 --> 00:40:52,284
at any time,
no matter how healthy or safe
873
00:40:52,326 --> 00:40:53,827
we think we are.
874
00:40:55,496 --> 00:40:58,082
Your life force
will never be
875
00:40:58,123 --> 00:41:01,961
steadily drained
by an implacable
876
00:41:02,002 --> 00:41:03,504
supernatural foe.
877
00:41:05,547 --> 00:41:07,091
But some people
878
00:41:07,132 --> 00:41:09,176
will face cancer
879
00:41:09,218 --> 00:41:10,928
in their life.
880
00:41:10,970 --> 00:41:12,554
Fiction gives us
881
00:41:12,596 --> 00:41:15,599
a safe playground
to consider
882
00:41:15,641 --> 00:41:17,476
what it would be like
to be in
883
00:41:17,518 --> 00:41:19,204
a life-or-death battle
with something draining us.
884
00:41:25,985 --> 00:41:28,821
Vampire stories
will remain powerful
885
00:41:28,862 --> 00:41:31,698
as long as we are organic
886
00:41:31,699 --> 00:41:33,535
and full of blood.
887
00:41:33,575 --> 00:41:37,162
And the blood
can be corrupted.
888
00:41:37,204 --> 00:41:39,999
So I think the fanged ones
889
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,750
will be around
for a while longer.
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