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Some shit's about to go down. 14 00:00:57,599 --> 00:00:59,685 You literally were like, "Oh." 15 00:01:00,227 --> 00:01:01,270 Oh, man. 16 00:01:01,895 --> 00:01:03,981 That might be the hardest question you asked me today. 17 00:01:06,775 --> 00:01:08,485 It's a beautiful thing. 18 00:01:08,485 --> 00:01:10,070 I mean, it's not that simple. 19 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:12,281 It's difficult for me to kind of put it into words. 20 00:01:12,281 --> 00:01:14,866 I'd love to give you the kind of two minute, uh... 21 00:01:14,866 --> 00:01:18,912 Wait. Uh, how are you gonna ban greatness? 22 00:01:18,912 --> 00:01:21,164 What was the question? Just remind me to get back in. 23 00:01:21,164 --> 00:01:23,083 Everyone has their own connection to it, right? 24 00:01:23,083 --> 00:01:24,960 The sneaker. Somebody got shot for a pair. 25 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:26,295 That's what we're gonna talk about. 26 00:01:26,295 --> 00:01:27,754 That's the dumbest shit in the world. 27 00:01:27,754 --> 00:01:30,007 I'm not trying to take a political stance with a shoe. 28 00:01:30,007 --> 00:01:31,675 Now, get out of here please. 29 00:01:31,675 --> 00:01:34,678 Damn. That really just changed the entire course. 30 00:01:36,054 --> 00:01:37,222 Hard to explain. 31 00:01:37,222 --> 00:01:39,474 And it's... it's like it's just a shoe. 32 00:01:39,474 --> 00:01:40,684 You know... 33 00:01:40,684 --> 00:01:42,602 I don't really remember a shoe 34 00:01:42,602 --> 00:01:44,938 having that kind of effect before. 35 00:01:44,938 --> 00:01:47,232 I don't think they could comprehend the impact. 36 00:01:47,232 --> 00:01:48,900 It was about a red pair of shoes. 37 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:50,110 It's got to be the shoe. 38 00:01:50,110 --> 00:01:51,653 Yeah, motherfucker, it is the shoes! 39 00:02:10,797 --> 00:02:12,466 It was about a red pair of shoes. 40 00:02:36,239 --> 00:02:38,992 It rose like a phoenix out of the ashes. 41 00:02:51,671 --> 00:02:53,757 That gave a voice to the voiceless. 42 00:02:56,551 --> 00:02:58,053 Go. 43 00:03:09,815 --> 00:03:11,566 It's got to be the shoes. 44 00:03:20,492 --> 00:03:22,035 ♪ Let's do it ♪ 45 00:03:22,035 --> 00:03:23,745 ♪ Hey, hey, hey ♪ 46 00:03:24,413 --> 00:03:26,540 ♪ Hey, hey, hey ♪ 47 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,167 ♪ Come on, come on ♪ 48 00:03:55,861 --> 00:03:57,946 ♪ If man Is the father of the son ♪ 49 00:03:57,946 --> 00:03:59,448 ♪ Is the center Of the earth ♪ 50 00:03:59,448 --> 00:04:01,074 ♪ In the middle Of the universe ♪ 51 00:04:01,074 --> 00:04:02,784 ♪ Then why Is this verse comin' ♪ 52 00:04:02,784 --> 00:04:03,827 ♪ Six times rehearsed ♪ 53 00:04:05,495 --> 00:04:06,329 ♪ Don't freestyle much But I write 'em like such ♪ 54 00:04:07,956 --> 00:04:09,624 ♪ Amongst the fiends Controlled by the screens ♪ 55 00:04:09,624 --> 00:04:11,793 ♪ What does it all mean All this shit I'm seein' ♪ 56 00:04:11,793 --> 00:04:14,504 ♪ Human beings Scream vocal javelins ♪ 57 00:04:14,504 --> 00:04:16,465 ♪ Sign of a local nigga Unravelin' ♪ 58 00:04:17,132 --> 00:04:20,927 Chuck D, raptivist, rap artist, Public Enemy. 59 00:04:22,512 --> 00:04:25,348 Early 1980s, I was 20 years old, 60 00:04:25,348 --> 00:04:28,310 and knew he was in trouble when Reagan became president 61 00:04:28,310 --> 00:04:29,853 and Bush became vice president. 62 00:04:29,853 --> 00:04:31,062 Here's a brief segment... 63 00:04:32,606 --> 00:04:34,900 You had slum, ghetto situations of disenfranchised and then 64 00:04:34,900 --> 00:04:36,610 non-servicing before. 65 00:04:38,487 --> 00:04:41,406 But you didn't have that particular drug 66 00:04:41,406 --> 00:04:43,074 of cocaine going into crack 67 00:04:43,450 --> 00:04:46,077 and you didn't have the plethora of guns... 68 00:04:46,745 --> 00:04:47,704 ever before. 69 00:04:50,832 --> 00:04:53,460 It was not a good look for people of color 70 00:04:53,460 --> 00:04:54,753 and progressive people. 71 00:04:56,254 --> 00:04:58,131 People, you know, are trying to like express themselves. 72 00:04:58,423 --> 00:05:01,218 You know, whether it was a music artist 73 00:05:01,218 --> 00:05:02,802 wanting to have their own voice, 74 00:05:02,802 --> 00:05:04,346 whether it was a fashion designer 75 00:05:04,346 --> 00:05:07,140 wanting to be avant-garde and have their own voice. 76 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:08,767 Everybody wanted to have their own voice. 77 00:05:09,559 --> 00:05:12,145 There was something that had been brewing. 78 00:05:12,145 --> 00:05:14,064 -We wanted to be heard. -We had gotten into 79 00:05:14,064 --> 00:05:16,024 a very conservative movement in the early '80s 80 00:05:16,024 --> 00:05:17,984 where the moral majority was coming out. 81 00:05:17,984 --> 00:05:19,861 We had gone through some economic hardships. 82 00:05:19,861 --> 00:05:23,198 We had just come out of the Vietnam War and Watergate. 83 00:05:23,198 --> 00:05:25,116 So I think people were looking for heroes. 84 00:05:25,951 --> 00:05:28,203 People who were clamoring, 85 00:05:28,203 --> 00:05:31,164 looking for someone to just express our sensibilities 86 00:05:31,164 --> 00:05:32,332 and our style and our taste. 87 00:05:32,832 --> 00:05:35,168 I remember the environment that I was in. 88 00:05:35,502 --> 00:05:38,171 I was like, "This... "This ain't it. 89 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,298 You know, there has to be more." 90 00:05:41,007 --> 00:05:42,050 Not has to be. 91 00:05:42,050 --> 00:05:43,927 I know there's more to it than this. 92 00:05:45,011 --> 00:05:46,596 Well, some of the same things 93 00:05:46,596 --> 00:05:49,849 that we were going through then that still affects us today, 94 00:05:49,849 --> 00:05:52,727 so as much as I like to believe things have changed, 95 00:05:52,727 --> 00:05:54,729 the-- some things are just constant. 96 00:05:55,897 --> 00:05:58,441 That decade was-- it was a certain 97 00:05:58,441 --> 00:06:00,402 reality that had changed from the '70s. 98 00:06:02,445 --> 00:06:05,532 We are everywhere! Fight that! 99 00:06:05,532 --> 00:06:07,951 Graffiti is not an art. 100 00:06:07,951 --> 00:06:11,454 -Give us what we want. -Give us what we want! 101 00:06:11,454 --> 00:06:14,332 Rise up! Fight back! 102 00:06:14,332 --> 00:06:15,834 -Our street! -Our street! 103 00:06:15,834 --> 00:06:18,003 -Our street! -Our street! 104 00:06:18,003 --> 00:06:19,921 -Our street! -Our street! 105 00:06:32,684 --> 00:06:36,354 The NBA was in a fairly precarious position. 106 00:06:36,980 --> 00:06:39,357 Coming off those years in the '70s, 107 00:06:39,357 --> 00:06:41,735 the NBA was still viewed as a niche sport. 108 00:06:41,735 --> 00:06:44,112 The national television audience at that time 109 00:06:44,112 --> 00:06:45,905 being a largely white audience 110 00:06:45,905 --> 00:06:47,741 and there was a lot of speculation 111 00:06:47,741 --> 00:06:50,035 that we'd never be able to have a league 112 00:06:50,035 --> 00:06:52,621 that had such a high percentage of African-American players 113 00:06:52,621 --> 00:06:54,372 and sell out to the public. 114 00:06:54,372 --> 00:06:55,832 NBA action. 115 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,210 It's fantastic. 116 00:06:59,210 --> 00:07:01,588 Despite the success of Magic and Larry. 117 00:07:02,213 --> 00:07:05,008 Like you-- that, you know, it didn't have the feel 118 00:07:05,008 --> 00:07:07,385 of Major League Baseball or the NFL in terms of 119 00:07:07,385 --> 00:07:08,637 broad popularity. 120 00:07:09,804 --> 00:07:13,058 We were struggling with some really unfair 121 00:07:13,058 --> 00:07:15,268 stereotypes about NBA players. 122 00:07:15,894 --> 00:07:18,730 Guys were doing coke. Guys was doing pot. 123 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:20,482 Guys we're dying. 124 00:07:22,067 --> 00:07:24,402 Guys were being banned from the league. 125 00:07:24,402 --> 00:07:26,196 And a fight between J and Bird 126 00:07:26,196 --> 00:07:27,947 has broken out on the court. 127 00:07:28,323 --> 00:07:30,659 We were constantly trying to upgrade 128 00:07:30,659 --> 00:07:33,870 the public image of both the game and the players. 129 00:07:33,870 --> 00:07:36,665 So it was an outlaw league and, again, 130 00:07:36,665 --> 00:07:40,126 the ratings went down, and the popularity went down. 131 00:07:40,126 --> 00:07:41,503 And David Stern came in. 132 00:07:42,170 --> 00:07:46,633 I was the commissioner of the NBA from '84 to 2014. 133 00:07:47,717 --> 00:07:50,929 It was a-- a difficult time for the league 134 00:07:50,929 --> 00:07:54,766 in terms of-- we didn't have a TV contract to speak of. 135 00:07:55,266 --> 00:07:59,062 There was no... video capture. 136 00:07:59,062 --> 00:08:01,481 But I think we might have been in a relationship 137 00:08:01,481 --> 00:08:04,901 with Converse, as the official shoe of the NBA. 138 00:08:04,901 --> 00:08:09,155 And Converse had no idea what to do with the NBA. 139 00:08:09,406 --> 00:08:11,074 Just wanted to get through the day. 140 00:08:11,074 --> 00:08:13,410 It was that difficult. 141 00:08:22,794 --> 00:08:25,755 If you knew anything about Nike, 142 00:08:25,755 --> 00:08:29,592 Nike stood on this kind of rebel-ish behavior. 143 00:08:30,593 --> 00:08:33,346 Almost a foundation built on rebellion. 144 00:08:34,305 --> 00:08:36,015 John McEnroe, 145 00:08:36,015 --> 00:08:38,059 Prefontaine, 146 00:08:38,059 --> 00:08:39,144 was rebels. 147 00:08:45,817 --> 00:08:47,527 Answer my question! 148 00:08:47,861 --> 00:08:49,529 The question, jerk! 149 00:08:50,447 --> 00:08:52,824 Nike was a very volatile, 150 00:08:52,824 --> 00:08:56,411 much smaller, but, um, very aggressive and volatile place 151 00:08:56,411 --> 00:08:58,872 and you really didn't know if you had a job from day to day. 152 00:08:58,872 --> 00:09:00,874 It was, quite frankly, crazy. 153 00:09:00,874 --> 00:09:02,709 It was crazy. Was nutty. 154 00:09:04,544 --> 00:09:08,298 My name is Tinker Hatfield and I'm director of-- 155 00:09:08,965 --> 00:09:10,508 I don't even know my title. 156 00:09:10,508 --> 00:09:12,302 Let me start this over. I'm gonna make up one. 157 00:09:12,302 --> 00:09:14,304 People didn't even know how to pronounce Nike. 158 00:09:14,929 --> 00:09:16,222 I mean, what is this? 159 00:09:17,807 --> 00:09:19,559 There was a time when the people of the outside world, the uh-- 160 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,437 and the media were wondering what's happening with Nike. 161 00:09:22,979 --> 00:09:24,022 I'm Phil Knight. 162 00:09:27,150 --> 00:09:30,612 Nike had lost touch of who they were, 163 00:09:30,612 --> 00:09:33,948 the integral company that they had abandoned. 164 00:09:33,948 --> 00:09:36,951 And I told Nike, you know, "You guys gotta 165 00:09:36,951 --> 00:09:38,787 get back to that. That's who you are, 166 00:09:38,787 --> 00:09:40,914 that's the heart and soul of your company." 167 00:09:40,914 --> 00:09:42,248 And they said, "Nah, that's not us. 168 00:09:42,248 --> 00:09:44,667 We're not that company anymore." And I said, 169 00:09:44,667 --> 00:09:47,295 "Well, you better fucking get back to being that company." 170 00:09:57,388 --> 00:10:00,225 Obviously, I don't think you can foresee 171 00:10:00,225 --> 00:10:01,518 what happened. 172 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:04,521 When you disrupt... 173 00:10:04,521 --> 00:10:07,148 people can't help but pay attention. 174 00:10:08,107 --> 00:10:10,151 No one wants to walk in the same shoes. 175 00:10:10,151 --> 00:10:11,820 It's not real. That's not-- 176 00:10:11,820 --> 00:10:13,863 it's not how we're built as human beings, 177 00:10:13,863 --> 00:10:15,949 to all walk in the same way. 178 00:10:15,949 --> 00:10:17,534 Trying to change the tone... 179 00:10:17,534 --> 00:10:19,911 And there's always a look for a stand 180 00:10:19,911 --> 00:10:21,079 in one direction or another. 181 00:10:21,079 --> 00:10:23,081 Uh, where that stand's gonna come, 182 00:10:23,081 --> 00:10:25,166 who's gonna unify, when is enough? 183 00:10:26,376 --> 00:10:28,545 And from time to time, in every generation, 184 00:10:28,545 --> 00:10:30,839 there's something-- there's some rebels 185 00:10:30,839 --> 00:10:32,006 that kind of, shake stuff up. 186 00:10:33,508 --> 00:10:35,134 And it's like Sam Cooke said, "A change is gonna come." 187 00:10:35,969 --> 00:10:37,971 Nothing much I can do about it. 188 00:10:48,481 --> 00:10:50,608 My name is Elizabeth Semmelhack 189 00:10:50,608 --> 00:10:52,694 and I'm the creator of the rising sneaker culture 190 00:10:52,694 --> 00:10:54,445 and the author of Out of the Box: 191 00:10:54,445 --> 00:10:56,281 The Rise of Sneaker Culture. 192 00:10:56,281 --> 00:10:58,491 Early sneakers were actually symbols of status. 193 00:11:02,620 --> 00:11:05,456 Created in the middle of the 19th Century, 194 00:11:05,456 --> 00:11:06,583 for lawn tennis. 195 00:11:08,918 --> 00:11:10,503 The fact that you had a rubberized sole 196 00:11:10,503 --> 00:11:12,213 meant you could play on damp grass. 197 00:11:12,213 --> 00:11:14,591 And of course lawn tennis was something that was enjoyed 198 00:11:14,591 --> 00:11:16,217 by the privileged few. 199 00:11:17,719 --> 00:11:19,804 But by the end of World War II 200 00:11:19,804 --> 00:11:22,390 sneakers become the footwear of childhood 201 00:11:22,390 --> 00:11:24,183 and they lose all status. 202 00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:29,022 We didn't wanna be associated with wearing sneakers 203 00:11:29,022 --> 00:11:32,609 because people who wore sneakers everyday didn't have money. 204 00:11:32,942 --> 00:11:35,278 So we would carry our sneakers to the park. 205 00:11:38,197 --> 00:11:40,658 And it's not until the 1970s 206 00:11:40,658 --> 00:11:44,454 that the sneaker is returned to an item of status. 207 00:11:46,122 --> 00:11:48,541 There was a time in America, I mean, 208 00:11:48,541 --> 00:11:50,293 it was all Converse. 209 00:11:50,877 --> 00:11:53,588 Canvas Converse, white or black, 210 00:11:54,172 --> 00:11:55,548 high top or low top. 211 00:11:58,134 --> 00:12:00,929 And it cost five dollars back in the day. 212 00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:04,515 You had to beg your parents. 213 00:12:04,515 --> 00:12:07,060 Five dollars for a sneaker back in the day... 214 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:09,687 that was a lot of fucking money. 215 00:12:09,687 --> 00:12:12,106 But when you got your first pair of Cons, 216 00:12:12,106 --> 00:12:15,151 the whole block would come out. 217 00:12:24,243 --> 00:12:26,829 That was the start of hot shoes. 218 00:12:28,998 --> 00:12:30,959 Chuck Taylor is the first person 219 00:12:30,959 --> 00:12:32,877 to have his name on a sneaker. 220 00:12:32,877 --> 00:12:35,129 If I asked the average person, 221 00:12:35,129 --> 00:12:36,756 "What does Chuck Taylor look like?" 222 00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:39,801 They'd know the shoe, but they don't remember him. 223 00:12:40,301 --> 00:12:43,054 When I was growing up, Dr. J had Converses. 224 00:12:43,054 --> 00:12:45,181 And they would say, "Hey, Dr. J, 225 00:12:45,181 --> 00:12:46,849 where you get those moves?" 226 00:12:46,849 --> 00:12:48,601 ♪ Where'd you get Those moves? ♪ 227 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:50,687 ♪ You move with such grace ♪ 228 00:12:50,687 --> 00:12:52,730 ♪ Are you a member Of the human race? ♪ 229 00:12:52,730 --> 00:12:53,606 ♪ Hey, Dr. J. ♪ 230 00:12:54,649 --> 00:12:55,942 And we wore Converse in the hood... 231 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,404 but we didn't like them as much as we liked other shoes. 232 00:13:07,620 --> 00:13:10,123 Fila was a big hood sneaker for a while. 233 00:13:10,123 --> 00:13:12,667 You know, I wore them, but also wore other brands. 234 00:13:13,167 --> 00:13:15,378 You could see Adidas around. Like, you know, 235 00:13:15,378 --> 00:13:17,422 a few people had Adidas, a few people 236 00:13:17,422 --> 00:13:19,799 had Converse, or whatever your thing was. 237 00:13:20,133 --> 00:13:22,385 Adidas is special because of Run-DMC. 238 00:13:22,385 --> 00:13:25,179 Word up, and we always rock our Adidas on our feet. 239 00:13:25,179 --> 00:13:27,557 ♪ I wear my Adidas When I rock the beat ♪ 240 00:13:27,557 --> 00:13:30,059 ♪ On stage front page Every show I go ♪ 241 00:13:30,059 --> 00:13:31,602 ♪ My Adidas ♪ 242 00:13:32,562 --> 00:13:34,397 No. Let me start again. 243 00:13:34,397 --> 00:13:36,482 If your sneakers slip and slide, 244 00:13:36,816 --> 00:13:39,152 get the one that's starts inside, 245 00:13:39,152 --> 00:13:41,612 ask your moms, empty her purse 246 00:13:41,612 --> 00:13:43,573 to get the ones that say Converse. 247 00:13:51,789 --> 00:13:54,000 I'm from the time when it was weird to have 248 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,334 tons of sneakers. 249 00:13:55,334 --> 00:13:57,128 Back in the day, people would come in 250 00:13:57,128 --> 00:13:59,255 and try on like, five or six pairs. 251 00:13:59,255 --> 00:14:01,090 Just cause the way they looked on the wall, 252 00:14:01,090 --> 00:14:03,301 instead of hunting and knowing what you're coming for. 253 00:14:03,301 --> 00:14:05,470 It was, like, you had to have your own sense of style. 254 00:14:06,054 --> 00:14:08,723 The game was, I'mma walk into the sneaker store 255 00:14:08,723 --> 00:14:10,600 every other day and see what they got new. 256 00:14:11,017 --> 00:14:13,603 It's just that-- it was weird to have 257 00:14:13,603 --> 00:14:15,271 20, 30, 40, 50... 258 00:14:15,271 --> 00:14:16,731 Like it was-- like, "What the fuck 259 00:14:16,731 --> 00:14:17,982 are you doing with that many sneakers? 260 00:14:18,232 --> 00:14:20,610 Sneakers were always a big deal in my house. 261 00:14:20,610 --> 00:14:22,653 We grew up in a very poor neighborhood. 262 00:14:23,071 --> 00:14:25,615 If there was anything you were gonna take care of 263 00:14:25,615 --> 00:14:28,201 and-- and really cherish, it was a pair of shoes. 264 00:14:28,201 --> 00:14:30,536 Growing up in the hood 265 00:14:30,536 --> 00:14:32,538 before we had cars, we had shoes. 266 00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:37,794 Our shoes were our Bentleys, our Maybachs. 267 00:14:37,794 --> 00:14:40,546 You know, that's what they were. That's how we treated them. 268 00:14:44,050 --> 00:14:46,594 Our connection, my connection 269 00:14:46,969 --> 00:14:50,890 is they might make you play better. 270 00:14:54,644 --> 00:14:55,853 Dumbest thought in the world. 271 00:14:56,854 --> 00:14:59,023 Now, that's who this shoe was made for. 272 00:15:00,358 --> 00:15:03,069 Magic Johnson and Larry Bird 273 00:15:03,069 --> 00:15:04,612 had shoes called Weapons. 274 00:15:04,987 --> 00:15:06,656 And they did an ad back-to-back 275 00:15:06,656 --> 00:15:09,117 holding the-- the sneaker like it was a gun. 276 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:10,827 Nobody cared. 277 00:15:12,245 --> 00:15:15,081 They didn't really sell across to New York City cats 278 00:15:15,081 --> 00:15:16,332 just because guys played ball. 279 00:15:16,582 --> 00:15:18,626 But everybody didn't play basketball. 280 00:15:18,626 --> 00:15:20,962 You didn't wait for All-Star Weekend to come out 281 00:15:20,962 --> 00:15:22,588 so that you can go buy... 282 00:15:23,923 --> 00:15:25,049 Charles Barkley's sneaker. 283 00:15:26,467 --> 00:15:27,468 You didn't really wanna have anything to do 284 00:15:27,468 --> 00:15:30,429 with your athlete idols off court. 285 00:15:30,429 --> 00:15:32,431 You just wanted to see them on the field. 286 00:15:32,431 --> 00:15:33,683 And then when you saw them, 287 00:15:33,683 --> 00:15:35,643 you know, post-game interviews 288 00:15:35,643 --> 00:15:37,979 or if you were lucky enough to catch them in the street 289 00:15:37,979 --> 00:15:39,856 or whatever it was... 290 00:15:40,565 --> 00:15:42,150 you're like, "Wait. This is the guy 291 00:15:42,150 --> 00:15:45,278 that I idolize on, which his style is so weird." 292 00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:47,071 If you was a good basketball player 293 00:15:47,071 --> 00:15:48,823 that was second to being a good hustler. 294 00:15:49,157 --> 00:15:51,617 We didn't wear basketball sneakers around Harlem. 295 00:15:53,035 --> 00:15:55,288 Sneaker culture in basketball, 296 00:15:55,288 --> 00:15:57,832 everything was really kind of basic and generic. 297 00:15:57,832 --> 00:15:59,208 It was white and black, 298 00:15:59,208 --> 00:16:00,376 white in the team color. 299 00:16:01,294 --> 00:16:03,212 Everybody kind of had the same formulas. 300 00:16:03,212 --> 00:16:06,048 It was just cup soles and standard toe cups, 301 00:16:06,048 --> 00:16:07,300 and then you would have every brand 302 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:09,218 to stamp their logo along the middle. 303 00:16:09,218 --> 00:16:12,138 Things were stale and a little flat in the world 304 00:16:12,138 --> 00:16:13,347 of basketball shoes. 305 00:16:29,071 --> 00:16:31,157 Jason Mayden, former senior design director 306 00:16:31,157 --> 00:16:32,074 for Jordan brand. 307 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:34,452 I wouldn't call myself a sneakerhead. 308 00:16:34,452 --> 00:16:36,037 I mean, you never get high off your own supply. 309 00:16:36,037 --> 00:16:38,164 You don't do that. Rules of the game, man. 310 00:16:38,164 --> 00:16:39,999 You can't make the stuff then covet the stuff. 311 00:16:39,999 --> 00:16:42,793 In '84, I became a fulltime employee 312 00:16:42,793 --> 00:16:45,504 for like-- I'm not a shoe designer, 313 00:16:45,755 --> 00:16:49,383 I'm a very good problem solver though. 314 00:16:49,383 --> 00:16:51,844 A lot of Nike's original designers didn't come from 315 00:16:51,844 --> 00:16:53,596 industrial design. They came from different disciplines. 316 00:16:53,596 --> 00:16:55,264 And so they knew how to manipulate 317 00:16:55,264 --> 00:16:57,642 -materials and processes. -In '84, 318 00:16:57,642 --> 00:16:59,977 Nike was not a design company. 319 00:16:59,977 --> 00:17:03,147 It was a half-ass shoe company. 320 00:17:03,147 --> 00:17:05,399 And it was more of a marketing effort 321 00:17:05,399 --> 00:17:06,859 than it was anything else. 322 00:17:09,779 --> 00:17:11,989 Adidas was killing Nike, 323 00:17:11,989 --> 00:17:13,241 marketing-wise. 324 00:17:14,242 --> 00:17:17,495 They were like the fashion hit, not Nike. 325 00:17:17,495 --> 00:17:19,413 And the shoes weren't selling. 326 00:17:20,206 --> 00:17:23,125 Our main objective was to get into basketball. 327 00:17:23,376 --> 00:17:26,837 Even though they had some sales to a 16-year-old kid 328 00:17:26,837 --> 00:17:28,422 that we were trying to attract 329 00:17:28,422 --> 00:17:30,758 didn't think of Nike as anything other than 330 00:17:30,758 --> 00:17:32,635 a running shoe company. 331 00:17:32,635 --> 00:17:35,429 Well, it may be the 20th century and all that 332 00:17:35,429 --> 00:17:38,891 but there are still people out there who run 333 00:17:38,891 --> 00:17:40,977 as if their life depended on it. 334 00:17:45,773 --> 00:17:47,608 We weren't part of any federations. 335 00:17:47,608 --> 00:17:51,153 We didn't support the NBA, or the NFL, or... 336 00:17:51,153 --> 00:17:55,032 It was kind of some kind of a controlled, uh, mayhem. 337 00:17:55,032 --> 00:17:57,618 That was a very early time period and, 338 00:17:57,618 --> 00:17:59,453 you know, we had Moses Malone. 339 00:17:59,453 --> 00:18:02,039 Big boy'd just become MVP. 340 00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:04,292 They had just won a championship. 341 00:18:04,750 --> 00:18:07,211 We had quite a few players. 342 00:18:07,211 --> 00:18:10,506 But Converse had Bird, 343 00:18:10,506 --> 00:18:13,634 Isaiah, Mark Aguirre, you know. 344 00:18:13,634 --> 00:18:16,512 So they had a large pool. 345 00:18:16,512 --> 00:18:20,141 And we were kind of the upstart, 346 00:18:20,141 --> 00:18:21,851 up and coming company. 347 00:18:22,268 --> 00:18:24,812 When you ain't got the ball, 348 00:18:24,812 --> 00:18:26,522 you can't shoot the ball. 349 00:18:29,817 --> 00:18:31,027 Nike. 350 00:18:31,652 --> 00:18:34,530 Peter Moore knew that they wanted something 351 00:18:34,530 --> 00:18:35,573 to be revolutionary 352 00:18:36,991 --> 00:18:38,534 and change people's eyes and how they looked at things. 353 00:18:38,909 --> 00:18:42,163 He was fascinated by air, flight. 354 00:18:44,915 --> 00:18:47,585 They really loved the idea of flying. 355 00:18:49,628 --> 00:18:52,173 I was fascinated because of the opportunities 356 00:18:52,173 --> 00:18:54,842 that it would allow you to ride on air. 357 00:18:54,842 --> 00:18:57,178 -You needed flare. -...against two. 358 00:18:57,178 --> 00:18:59,138 Bird a runner. It's good. 359 00:18:59,138 --> 00:19:01,098 You needed showmanship. 360 00:19:02,058 --> 00:19:05,144 What a pass. Magic Johnson... 361 00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:06,645 You needed air. 362 00:19:22,953 --> 00:19:24,747 We had a lot of good players. 363 00:19:24,747 --> 00:19:28,000 We had a lot of players on uh, the NBA All-Star Team. 364 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,586 But we didn't really have a marquee player. 365 00:19:30,586 --> 00:19:33,589 We didn't have anybody that was First Team, All-NBA. 366 00:19:34,215 --> 00:19:37,468 And we needed to get a player that could play at that level. 367 00:19:37,468 --> 00:19:39,678 And I mean the whole marketing thing with Nike 368 00:19:39,678 --> 00:19:43,099 was Rob Strasser's genius idea to attach 369 00:19:43,099 --> 00:19:45,017 an athlete to the brand. 370 00:19:45,518 --> 00:19:47,520 So he calls Sonny Vaccaro, 371 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,814 who was his basketball guy. 372 00:19:50,231 --> 00:19:53,484 Sonny Vaccaro said, "We need to sign the kid." 373 00:19:53,901 --> 00:19:55,861 That was the phrase he used, "the kid". 374 00:19:55,861 --> 00:19:57,988 What do you mean we need to sign the kid? 375 00:19:57,988 --> 00:20:01,033 We have $500,000. We wanna sign three players. 376 00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:02,576 He goes, "No. You only need one player." 377 00:20:02,576 --> 00:20:04,870 -Steal by Dr. J. -Johnson. 378 00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:06,705 -McHale... -...to Larry Bird. 379 00:20:06,705 --> 00:20:09,125 -Malone for the dunk. -Kareem Abdul-Jabaar. 380 00:20:09,125 --> 00:20:11,669 Who could be a guy who could fly through the air? 381 00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:13,504 Who could be our Jumpman? 382 00:20:17,049 --> 00:20:20,261 Here goes Jordan for the dunk. Holy hell. 383 00:20:20,261 --> 00:20:22,263 ♪ Come on, come on, come on ♪ 384 00:20:23,305 --> 00:20:24,849 I'm just a freshman on the block. 385 00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:31,230 The tie... 18. 386 00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:32,815 -Jordan! -Jordan! 387 00:20:32,815 --> 00:20:34,692 ...with Michael Jordan... 388 00:20:37,987 --> 00:20:40,781 I'm Roy Firestone. I'm a broadcaster. 389 00:20:40,781 --> 00:20:43,242 In 1984, I interviewed Michael Jordan. 390 00:20:43,242 --> 00:20:45,536 I think he might have been 19 years old. 391 00:20:45,536 --> 00:20:48,205 The word is that Michael Jordan is going back 392 00:20:48,205 --> 00:20:50,374 to North Carolina next year, will not turn pro. 393 00:20:50,374 --> 00:20:52,042 Have you definitely made up your mind? 394 00:20:52,042 --> 00:20:53,586 Can you say it without equivocation 395 00:20:53,586 --> 00:20:55,629 -that you're going back? -Yes, I think can. 396 00:20:55,629 --> 00:20:58,174 But right now I am gonna be coming back. 397 00:20:58,174 --> 00:20:59,842 Michael Jordan wasn't even sure 398 00:20:59,842 --> 00:21:02,511 if he was gonna come out of the 1984 draft. 399 00:21:02,511 --> 00:21:04,346 He wanted to stay maybe his senior year 400 00:21:04,346 --> 00:21:06,140 at North Carolina but he wasn't sure. 401 00:21:06,140 --> 00:21:08,142 When we were scouting Michael, we obviously 402 00:21:08,142 --> 00:21:11,353 had the opportunity to see him at North Carolina. 403 00:21:11,353 --> 00:21:14,773 They played a passing game, teammate oriented. 404 00:21:14,773 --> 00:21:17,818 Not very much one-on-one basketball. 405 00:21:17,818 --> 00:21:19,653 I would never make it as a scout. 406 00:21:19,653 --> 00:21:21,906 I certainly don't remember thinking 407 00:21:21,906 --> 00:21:24,992 in college when I watched him, that I could be watching 408 00:21:24,992 --> 00:21:27,536 possibly the greatest player ever to play the game. 409 00:21:27,828 --> 00:21:30,289 And I saw him a fair amount. I was at Duke, 410 00:21:30,289 --> 00:21:33,334 ACC schools and huge Carolina rivalry. 411 00:21:33,334 --> 00:21:35,085 Here's James Worthy, the great 412 00:21:35,085 --> 00:21:36,420 All-American power forward... 413 00:21:36,420 --> 00:21:39,465 James Worthy, Sam Perkins, Brad Daugherty, 414 00:21:39,465 --> 00:21:41,509 I mean, it was a great a Carolina program. 415 00:21:41,509 --> 00:21:44,053 They're gonna take Michael Jordan out of the game. 416 00:21:44,053 --> 00:21:46,514 He was All-American. He won the Wooden Award. 417 00:21:46,764 --> 00:21:49,725 But he wasn't a flashy, thrilling player. 418 00:21:49,725 --> 00:21:52,186 He wasn't Kobe Bryant in high school even. 419 00:21:52,186 --> 00:21:53,479 You knew he was good, 420 00:21:53,479 --> 00:21:57,358 but he was a component part of a great team. 421 00:22:00,819 --> 00:22:03,072 In '84, Jordan is ready to come back 422 00:22:03,072 --> 00:22:05,324 for his senior year of college and Dean Smith tells him, 423 00:22:05,324 --> 00:22:06,659 "No, it's time to leave." 424 00:22:06,659 --> 00:22:08,035 The same thing with James Worthy. 425 00:22:08,035 --> 00:22:09,912 It's like it became an edict from the coach 426 00:22:09,912 --> 00:22:11,247 that it was time for you to leave 427 00:22:11,247 --> 00:22:13,499 because it was too risky for you to stay otherwise. 428 00:22:13,499 --> 00:22:14,833 You're ready for the NBA. 429 00:22:16,418 --> 00:22:19,338 Today, live from the Felt Forum in New York City, 430 00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:21,715 The USA Network presents 431 00:22:21,715 --> 00:22:25,344 the 1984 NBA College Draft. 432 00:22:26,971 --> 00:22:29,431 And in that draft you had the number one pick 433 00:22:29,431 --> 00:22:32,226 in the NBA, Hakeem Olajuwon from Nigeria. 434 00:22:32,851 --> 00:22:34,895 The number two pick was Sam Bowie, 435 00:22:34,895 --> 00:22:37,022 drafted by the Portland Trailblazers. 436 00:22:37,022 --> 00:22:38,566 And that left us with Michael. 437 00:22:40,234 --> 00:22:42,152 The Chicago Bulls... 438 00:22:42,736 --> 00:22:44,655 pick Michael Jordan 439 00:22:44,655 --> 00:22:46,907 from the University of North Carolina. 440 00:22:46,907 --> 00:22:48,826 There were people who would tell you 441 00:22:48,826 --> 00:22:49,994 that they thought Michael Jordan 442 00:22:49,994 --> 00:22:52,121 was the best player in the 1984 draft, 443 00:22:52,121 --> 00:22:53,455 but he was a six-foot-six shooting guard. 444 00:22:54,331 --> 00:22:56,750 You drafted centers. If there was an available center 445 00:22:56,750 --> 00:22:58,460 that you thought could be a game changer, 446 00:22:58,460 --> 00:22:59,753 that would be who you would take. 447 00:23:00,337 --> 00:23:02,673 I think if we had the first pick, 448 00:23:02,673 --> 00:23:04,341 we might have taken Olajuwon. 449 00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:17,521 1984 Olympics were here. 450 00:23:17,855 --> 00:23:20,566 The United States Olympic basketball team was here. 451 00:23:20,566 --> 00:23:22,776 Michael Jordan was playing on that basketball team. 452 00:23:22,776 --> 00:23:25,237 George Raveling was an assistant coach of that team. 453 00:23:25,529 --> 00:23:27,865 And his best friend was Sonny Vaccaro. 454 00:23:27,865 --> 00:23:30,451 They went to Tony Roma's in Santa Monica. 455 00:23:30,451 --> 00:23:32,995 David Falk, Michael Jordan's agent was there 456 00:23:32,995 --> 00:23:34,538 and they started to talk. 457 00:23:34,872 --> 00:23:37,499 We didn't know anything about Michael Jordan. 458 00:23:37,499 --> 00:23:38,876 All I knew about Jordan 459 00:23:38,876 --> 00:23:40,794 is he's the son of a bitch who shot the shot 460 00:23:40,794 --> 00:23:42,671 that beat Georgetown, which was 461 00:23:42,671 --> 00:23:44,256 our school, you know. 462 00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:46,884 So why are we gonna go get this guy? 463 00:23:47,551 --> 00:23:49,178 And your only wisdom was, 464 00:23:49,178 --> 00:23:51,055 "Well, let's get three of them." 465 00:23:51,555 --> 00:23:53,974 You know, Olajuwon was the number one pick. 466 00:23:53,974 --> 00:23:56,477 Barkley was the most fun-looking guy 467 00:23:56,477 --> 00:23:58,228 in all of college basketball. 468 00:23:58,228 --> 00:23:59,647 And then you have a little white guy 469 00:23:59,647 --> 00:24:01,732 from Gonzaga, John Stockton. 470 00:24:02,524 --> 00:24:04,652 I had seen Jordan beat Georgetown. 471 00:24:04,652 --> 00:24:07,154 I don't understand Nostradamus thing. 472 00:24:07,154 --> 00:24:10,783 Except I knew he was right. I said, "It's Jordan." 473 00:24:10,783 --> 00:24:13,243 And they were, "Okay, well, we got this much money, 474 00:24:13,243 --> 00:24:15,079 we'll give them this much. 475 00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:16,455 And we'll give Barkley this much 476 00:24:16,455 --> 00:24:17,956 and we'll give this guy that much." 477 00:24:17,956 --> 00:24:19,166 And I said, "No. 478 00:24:19,166 --> 00:24:21,502 Give 'em all the money you have. Go all in. 479 00:24:21,919 --> 00:24:24,463 You got to give the kid everything you got. 480 00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:26,632 You know, he's worn Converse in college. 481 00:24:26,632 --> 00:24:29,343 It's acknowledged he wants to be an Adidas guy 482 00:24:29,343 --> 00:24:31,053 because they have these flashy sweatsuits 483 00:24:31,053 --> 00:24:32,388 and all that sort of stuff. 484 00:24:32,388 --> 00:24:34,807 So you knew he wasn't waking up 485 00:24:34,807 --> 00:24:36,558 wanting to be a Nike guy." 486 00:24:37,976 --> 00:24:40,729 So we start finding out about him. 487 00:24:41,063 --> 00:24:43,691 We watched him after the games, and he had a great smile 488 00:24:43,691 --> 00:24:45,776 and he looked like a good kid. 489 00:24:45,776 --> 00:24:47,236 Competitive like hell. 490 00:24:48,278 --> 00:24:52,199 Coming into this world, he was very, very naive. 491 00:24:52,199 --> 00:24:54,159 He had his parents and David Falk 492 00:24:54,159 --> 00:24:55,494 negotiating for him. 493 00:24:55,494 --> 00:24:57,246 We ended up going to Converse, 494 00:24:57,246 --> 00:24:59,123 and Converse presented their image. 495 00:24:59,123 --> 00:25:01,291 And Michael would be just like everybody else. 496 00:25:02,793 --> 00:25:04,920 And his dad asked the famous question, 497 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,297 "Don't you have any new creative ideas?" 498 00:25:07,297 --> 00:25:09,091 And they looked around at each other like, 499 00:25:09,091 --> 00:25:10,134 "What does that mean? 500 00:25:11,593 --> 00:25:13,303 Like we're gonna treat him like Bernard King or Dr. J? 501 00:25:13,721 --> 00:25:15,097 Isn't that enough?" 502 00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:17,975 The answer was no. It wasn't enough. 503 00:25:17,975 --> 00:25:19,601 We wanted to be different. 504 00:25:19,601 --> 00:25:21,478 He just didn't like division. 505 00:25:23,313 --> 00:25:25,023 They won the Olympics. 506 00:25:25,023 --> 00:25:29,445 And then he was coming out with his parents and his agent. 507 00:25:29,445 --> 00:25:32,406 And he had proclaimed to, "Hey, you know what? 508 00:25:32,406 --> 00:25:34,658 Why don't you all just go out there, 509 00:25:34,658 --> 00:25:36,577 and tell me what you saw. 510 00:25:36,577 --> 00:25:39,163 I'm tired, been traveling." 511 00:25:39,163 --> 00:25:40,956 He said he wasn't gonna sign. 512 00:25:40,956 --> 00:25:42,374 He didn't wanna come to Nike. 513 00:25:42,374 --> 00:25:44,418 He didn't wanna come out to Portland, Oregon. 514 00:25:44,418 --> 00:25:47,463 And the insistence of his parents. 515 00:25:47,463 --> 00:25:50,132 "No. You are going out there." 516 00:25:50,132 --> 00:25:51,675 And they came. 517 00:25:51,675 --> 00:25:52,926 I told him that 518 00:25:52,926 --> 00:25:54,803 he wouldn't have their level of artistic freedom, 519 00:25:54,803 --> 00:25:56,430 at a very established company, 520 00:25:56,430 --> 00:25:58,849 he'd have at a younger entrepreneurial company. 521 00:25:58,849 --> 00:26:02,561 In '84, you didn't make presentations to athletes. 522 00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:05,355 What we did is we showed his mom and dad, him, 523 00:26:05,355 --> 00:26:07,483 things that they've never seen before. 524 00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:09,568 They made a music video 525 00:26:09,568 --> 00:26:11,737 where they put together a series of highlights 526 00:26:11,737 --> 00:26:13,614 from college and the Olympics. 527 00:26:14,364 --> 00:26:17,951 Michael didn't crack a smile the whole time. 528 00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:20,621 He looked like he was hating it. 529 00:26:22,790 --> 00:26:26,001 The shoe money is the fuel that pumps college basketball. 530 00:26:26,001 --> 00:26:27,878 It's because one great basketball player 531 00:26:27,878 --> 00:26:30,714 can have such an effect on the bottom line. 532 00:26:30,714 --> 00:26:33,175 My name is Bomani Jones and I work at ESPN. 533 00:26:33,717 --> 00:26:35,385 You look in the 1980's, 534 00:26:35,385 --> 00:26:37,763 the idea seems to make a lot of sense. 535 00:26:37,763 --> 00:26:39,556 Okay, we got a star, he's wearing our shoes, 536 00:26:39,556 --> 00:26:41,225 we'll be able to move a lot of shoes. 537 00:26:42,059 --> 00:26:44,061 But it wasn't yet at that point 538 00:26:44,061 --> 00:26:46,772 where it was such a variable that pushed everything 539 00:26:47,022 --> 00:26:48,398 as it is right now. 540 00:26:50,901 --> 00:26:52,736 But Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, 541 00:26:52,736 --> 00:26:54,571 these players, they were as big of names 542 00:26:54,571 --> 00:26:56,532 in that era as anybody. 543 00:26:56,532 --> 00:27:00,077 The most anybody ever made in a shoe deal, 544 00:27:00,077 --> 00:27:02,246 might have been $100,000. 545 00:27:02,246 --> 00:27:03,831 Maybe a little less for Kareem, 546 00:27:03,831 --> 00:27:06,500 even though he was a six-time NBA MVP. 547 00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:08,836 Didn't matter because it didn't mean anything. 548 00:27:08,836 --> 00:27:10,796 Somebody had to come up with an idea. 549 00:27:10,796 --> 00:27:12,965 We worked very hard. We campaigned. 550 00:27:12,965 --> 00:27:14,800 We had to woo the agent. 551 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,928 We had to woo the parents. Then we had to woo the man. 552 00:27:20,931 --> 00:27:22,724 And the one thing the guy could really do 553 00:27:22,724 --> 00:27:24,268 was he could jump. 554 00:27:24,268 --> 00:27:25,769 I mean he could really jump. 555 00:27:26,436 --> 00:27:28,313 He could jump out of a gym. 556 00:27:28,772 --> 00:27:29,773 He's a flyer. 557 00:27:30,983 --> 00:27:32,985 ♪ New York London, Tokyo ♪ 558 00:27:32,985 --> 00:27:35,404 ♪ We're flying over the world Conveying the globe ♪ 559 00:27:35,404 --> 00:27:37,155 ♪ We got worldwide status Wherever we go ♪ 560 00:27:37,447 --> 00:27:39,825 ♪ Hot, cold, 57, Man, you already know ♪ 561 00:27:42,411 --> 00:27:44,246 ♪ Whatever, man, You already know ♪ 562 00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:47,082 Jordan speeding into ball game. 563 00:27:47,583 --> 00:27:49,293 Jordan, look at that! 564 00:27:49,877 --> 00:27:51,003 Holy cow! 565 00:27:53,171 --> 00:27:54,715 That connected to air. 566 00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:57,426 As a matter of fact, some of the negotiations 567 00:27:57,426 --> 00:27:59,219 with David Falk began 568 00:27:59,219 --> 00:28:01,096 in a place called the museum of flight. 569 00:28:01,096 --> 00:28:02,598 Well as soon as we walk into the room, 570 00:28:02,598 --> 00:28:05,976 Falk, he's got all kinds of ideas for us and Jordan. 571 00:28:05,976 --> 00:28:08,520 Nike, this air thing is pretty big. 572 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,314 And there this new this new guy, Jordan. 573 00:28:10,856 --> 00:28:12,691 One of his ideas was that he thinks 574 00:28:12,691 --> 00:28:14,318 we oughta call him Air Jordan. 575 00:28:14,318 --> 00:28:16,695 You know, I'm like, that kinda has a little ring to it. 576 00:28:17,321 --> 00:28:19,656 Air Jordan by Nike. 577 00:28:20,824 --> 00:28:23,327 Rebound Jordan. He changed hands... 578 00:28:23,327 --> 00:28:25,746 That took Mr. Knight a while to get used to, 579 00:28:25,746 --> 00:28:28,081 because he didn't like that much at all. 580 00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:32,961 So I'm flying home with Rob. 581 00:28:33,211 --> 00:28:35,631 I see the stewardess 582 00:28:35,631 --> 00:28:38,216 give a kid a set of wings. 583 00:28:38,634 --> 00:28:41,678 I start sketching on a cocktail napkin 584 00:28:41,678 --> 00:28:45,557 this airline's wings with a basketball in the middle. 585 00:28:45,557 --> 00:28:49,978 When we showed him the shoes and showed him the apparel, 586 00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:52,898 it was all gonna be built around Air Jordan. 587 00:28:53,273 --> 00:28:56,818 We wanna make you the shoe. 588 00:28:56,818 --> 00:28:59,488 Not, "How'd you like to endorse a shoe?" 589 00:28:59,488 --> 00:29:01,823 "How'd you like to have your own shoe?" 590 00:29:02,074 --> 00:29:04,868 I mean, this never been done before. 591 00:29:05,744 --> 00:29:08,413 Phil Knight was told... 592 00:29:08,413 --> 00:29:10,374 that it'll be the death of Nike... 593 00:29:11,333 --> 00:29:15,295 to have a black man as the face of your company, 594 00:29:15,295 --> 00:29:16,380 that white America... 595 00:29:17,673 --> 00:29:20,050 would not come to terms... 596 00:29:20,509 --> 00:29:24,721 or purchase... Nike products. 597 00:29:25,806 --> 00:29:27,975 Like, it goes back to like back when they used to say, 598 00:29:27,975 --> 00:29:29,601 "Well, we can't sell-- 599 00:29:29,601 --> 00:29:30,811 we can't sell records 600 00:29:30,811 --> 00:29:32,813 with putting a black face on the cover." 601 00:29:32,813 --> 00:29:34,564 I mean, what kind of shit is that? 602 00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:37,651 You know 30 years ago people were a lot 603 00:29:37,651 --> 00:29:40,570 more narrow-minded and they thought 604 00:29:40,570 --> 00:29:44,741 that there was only an appetite for a certain perspective. 605 00:29:44,741 --> 00:29:47,244 They didn't know what they were getting into. 606 00:29:47,244 --> 00:29:49,746 And then they executed shit and took chances, 607 00:29:49,746 --> 00:29:51,748 and were like, "Fuck it, let's go for it." 608 00:29:52,124 --> 00:29:54,126 He didn't know it then what that meant. 609 00:29:54,668 --> 00:29:57,379 He hasn't bounced a ball in the NBA yet. 610 00:29:59,339 --> 00:30:00,799 The definition of visionary, 611 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:02,009 people see something, 612 00:30:02,009 --> 00:30:03,468 but other people can't see it yet. 613 00:30:06,430 --> 00:30:08,724 You really couldn't put it-- You know, no one-- 614 00:30:08,724 --> 00:30:10,183 Oh, yeah. This is what we gonna do. 615 00:30:10,183 --> 00:30:11,935 We gonna build this up. We gonna make this. 616 00:30:11,935 --> 00:30:13,228 Yeah, okay, great. 617 00:30:13,228 --> 00:30:15,647 You know, it's-- it's kind of like Michelangelo. 618 00:30:15,647 --> 00:30:18,442 You know, he really did not want to do 619 00:30:18,442 --> 00:30:19,818 the Sistine Chapel. 620 00:30:20,235 --> 00:30:22,696 And he considered himself this sculptor. 621 00:30:22,696 --> 00:30:25,574 And Pope asked him about painting the chapel, 622 00:30:25,574 --> 00:30:28,952 and he said, "No. That's just not who I am." 623 00:30:28,952 --> 00:30:30,620 I think there's an inherent pressure 624 00:30:30,620 --> 00:30:31,872 on that too, by the way. 625 00:30:31,872 --> 00:30:34,082 "Hey, my shoes are gonna be named after me?" 626 00:30:34,624 --> 00:30:37,919 And low and behold, they convinced Michelangelo 627 00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:39,129 to paint the chapel. 628 00:30:40,505 --> 00:30:42,049 And he looked at his mom and said, "You know, 629 00:30:42,049 --> 00:30:44,217 I still think maybe I should go to Adidas." 630 00:30:44,217 --> 00:30:45,677 And she says "No, you're gonna go to Nike. 631 00:30:45,677 --> 00:30:47,929 We're gonna make a shoe named after you." 632 00:30:47,929 --> 00:30:50,265 So often times 633 00:30:50,265 --> 00:30:53,226 when the universe is ready to create, 634 00:30:53,769 --> 00:30:56,146 the party may or may not be willing... 635 00:30:57,355 --> 00:30:58,940 but they come together. 636 00:31:00,734 --> 00:31:03,987 And he looked at his mom and said, "Where do I sign?" 637 00:31:08,366 --> 00:31:09,868 ♪ Clap your hands ♪ 638 00:31:15,123 --> 00:31:17,751 The signing of Michael Jordan is possibly 639 00:31:17,751 --> 00:31:20,253 the biggest and most important event 640 00:31:20,253 --> 00:31:21,546 in Nike's history. 641 00:31:22,255 --> 00:31:23,673 My favorite criticism, uh, 642 00:31:23,673 --> 00:31:25,133 from the signing of Michael Jordan, 643 00:31:25,133 --> 00:31:27,344 was Fortune Magazines that, uh, 644 00:31:27,344 --> 00:31:30,138 there's no greater sign that Nike has lost his way 645 00:31:30,138 --> 00:31:32,224 than to pay $250,000 646 00:31:32,224 --> 00:31:33,934 for an untried basketball player. 647 00:31:35,268 --> 00:31:37,229 African-American athletes weren't really 648 00:31:37,229 --> 00:31:38,897 getting endorsement deals to the extent 649 00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:40,273 that they are today. 650 00:31:40,273 --> 00:31:43,235 It sounds preposterous to think. 651 00:31:44,486 --> 00:31:47,656 To see somebody who you can identify with, 652 00:31:47,656 --> 00:31:51,118 that looks like you, and also something that... 653 00:31:51,118 --> 00:31:53,537 is going against the grain, that's not the norm. 654 00:31:53,787 --> 00:31:55,288 And that could be very inspiring. 655 00:31:55,539 --> 00:31:57,666 He had just come out of college. 656 00:31:57,666 --> 00:31:59,626 Nike invested a lot in him. 657 00:31:59,626 --> 00:32:01,545 He hadn't proven himself. 658 00:32:02,504 --> 00:32:04,673 I met Michael right after the draft personally. 659 00:32:04,673 --> 00:32:07,592 In them days, we didn't have great interviews. 660 00:32:07,592 --> 00:32:09,553 We didn't have shooting drills before. 661 00:32:10,428 --> 00:32:12,848 You didn't know how strong he was until we got him. 662 00:32:12,848 --> 00:32:16,309 There was just this complete fire drill 663 00:32:16,309 --> 00:32:18,228 to get a shoe put together for him really quickly. 664 00:32:18,603 --> 00:32:20,647 Because we actually didn't have the shoe ready. 665 00:32:21,148 --> 00:32:23,525 If you're smart and clever and efficient, 666 00:32:23,525 --> 00:32:25,694 you can use existing pieces in a new way. 667 00:32:25,694 --> 00:32:27,028 And Peter Moore was very efficient. 668 00:32:27,404 --> 00:32:29,990 In the case of the Air Jordan I, 669 00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:33,410 was to somehow infuse it with Michael Jordan's 670 00:32:33,410 --> 00:32:34,828 personality and character. 671 00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:38,039 It's like a Ferrari, but you still need 672 00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:39,124 a great driver. 673 00:32:39,875 --> 00:32:42,836 And we had a very good driver. 674 00:32:44,421 --> 00:32:46,131 We wanted something distinctive. 675 00:32:46,131 --> 00:32:47,716 Or really an exclamation. 676 00:32:47,716 --> 00:32:49,551 I was always fascinated with the idea 677 00:32:49,551 --> 00:32:50,969 that you're running on air. 678 00:32:50,969 --> 00:32:53,305 The idea that you could sky, flying. 679 00:32:54,431 --> 00:32:57,017 Uh, and Michael Jordan was a flyer. 680 00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:59,978 All of those things together created 681 00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:02,480 a new and special spirit. 682 00:33:06,902 --> 00:33:09,988 You have to remember, in '84, the era of the design 683 00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:11,364 hadn't happened yet. 684 00:33:11,781 --> 00:33:13,491 Nike had a couple of pattern makers. 685 00:33:13,491 --> 00:33:16,953 That was as close to designers as-- as it got. 686 00:33:17,412 --> 00:33:19,164 Today, it's just different. 687 00:33:21,082 --> 00:33:23,084 When we signed Michael, 688 00:33:23,084 --> 00:33:24,878 he was very unfamiliar with Nike shoe. 689 00:33:24,878 --> 00:33:26,296 Didn't like Nike shoes, 690 00:33:26,296 --> 00:33:29,758 because he said that they were too high, 691 00:33:30,050 --> 00:33:32,260 and he needed to feel 692 00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:33,470 closer to the floor. 693 00:33:35,138 --> 00:33:37,641 He had big concerns about the air 694 00:33:37,641 --> 00:33:40,977 because he felt he might get too high off the ground. 695 00:33:40,977 --> 00:33:42,187 Get too high off the ground, 696 00:33:42,187 --> 00:33:43,396 you're gonna sprain an ankle. 697 00:33:43,396 --> 00:33:45,106 And back then, shoes were pretty simple. 698 00:33:45,398 --> 00:33:48,360 They were basically leather with a rubber cup sole. 699 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,112 Sometimes they would have some foam exposed, 700 00:33:51,112 --> 00:33:53,990 but there wasn't much technology 701 00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:55,867 going on in the shoe. 702 00:33:55,867 --> 00:33:59,704 And then it was Peter Moore who lowered the air-bag 703 00:33:59,704 --> 00:34:01,289 and he could feel that. 704 00:34:01,623 --> 00:34:03,625 Nobody was worried about style 705 00:34:03,625 --> 00:34:05,335 and what it looked like. 706 00:34:05,335 --> 00:34:07,337 They were worried about how it worked. 707 00:34:07,337 --> 00:34:11,007 So the idea of combining functionality and practicality 708 00:34:11,007 --> 00:34:13,218 and the aesthetic of it all. 709 00:34:13,218 --> 00:34:14,302 In the mid-80s, 710 00:34:14,302 --> 00:34:16,638 all those things were coming together. 711 00:34:17,138 --> 00:34:19,224 I think sneakers are the epitome 712 00:34:19,224 --> 00:34:22,185 of what perfect design can wind up being. 713 00:34:22,477 --> 00:34:24,354 Essentially, anyone can be wearing it 714 00:34:24,354 --> 00:34:26,648 but your style ultimately determines 715 00:34:26,648 --> 00:34:28,400 how it really plays out. 716 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,277 And one of the things that I've learned the most 717 00:34:30,277 --> 00:34:32,570 about being a designer is that... 718 00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:34,698 I don't wanna live within those bounds, 719 00:34:34,698 --> 00:34:36,783 I wanna be able to push out those walls 720 00:34:36,783 --> 00:34:39,494 because when I live within the rules 721 00:34:39,494 --> 00:34:40,996 of the industry, 722 00:34:40,996 --> 00:34:42,831 we all kinda go the same path. 723 00:34:43,373 --> 00:34:45,500 When it came to the shoe, 724 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:49,004 I had this idea to break the color barrier. 725 00:34:49,004 --> 00:34:51,715 I wanted to give these kids something that they could 726 00:34:51,715 --> 00:34:53,216 sort of show their stuff with. 727 00:34:54,592 --> 00:34:56,052 So I looked around with what was 728 00:34:56,052 --> 00:34:57,804 going on in the industry, 729 00:34:57,804 --> 00:34:59,639 what was going on with kids. 730 00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:02,309 There was no color, no excitement, 731 00:35:02,309 --> 00:35:04,227 no anything in these shoes. 732 00:35:04,227 --> 00:35:06,438 And yet you went to the high school camps 733 00:35:06,438 --> 00:35:08,356 and things like that, these kids are trying 734 00:35:08,356 --> 00:35:11,943 to do 360 slam dunks. They're-- you know, they got color, man. 735 00:35:11,943 --> 00:35:13,653 ♪ You want it, you got it Come get it ♪ 736 00:35:13,653 --> 00:35:14,779 ♪ Get with it, it's yours ♪ 737 00:35:16,281 --> 00:35:17,615 ♪ Call me weak, I just peak And get stronger ♪ 738 00:35:17,615 --> 00:35:18,533 ♪ What I'm doing Is free-styling ♪ 739 00:35:18,533 --> 00:35:19,326 ♪ Meanwhile I'm profiling ♪ 740 00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:22,162 ♪ Getting set and getting paid Give me some room ♪ 741 00:35:22,162 --> 00:35:23,538 ♪ I'mma start flexing, flexing ♪ 742 00:35:23,538 --> 00:35:25,582 You know, the question becomes, "Can he wear this? 743 00:35:25,582 --> 00:35:27,125 You know, can he pull this off?" 744 00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:29,669 Because it's-- I mean, he's gonna take some shit 745 00:35:29,669 --> 00:35:31,421 from other players 746 00:35:31,421 --> 00:35:33,548 when he walks out there like this. 747 00:35:33,548 --> 00:35:35,759 And then the sneaker comes out... 748 00:35:35,759 --> 00:35:38,511 that is bright and bold. 749 00:35:38,511 --> 00:35:40,847 That black and red, 750 00:35:41,348 --> 00:35:43,975 and looks like nothing you've ever seen before. 751 00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:46,311 It's got like presence to it. 752 00:35:46,311 --> 00:35:47,979 The shape of it, the look of it, 753 00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:50,398 I just was like, "This is nothing I've ever seen." 754 00:35:50,398 --> 00:35:52,525 It was so different that you had to like it. 755 00:35:52,525 --> 00:35:53,985 It was game-changing. 756 00:35:55,695 --> 00:35:57,697 ♪ I predicted it just right ♪ 757 00:35:57,697 --> 00:35:59,991 ♪ You know the shit is tight Every time I'm on the mic ♪ 758 00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:02,827 ♪ You see me on the stage look Around the crowed is hyped ♪ 759 00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:05,288 ♪ This shit is regular, man This what my life's like ♪ 760 00:36:05,288 --> 00:36:07,665 I do remember seeing Michael's shoes come out. 761 00:36:07,665 --> 00:36:10,794 And, uh, at first I think everybody thought 762 00:36:10,794 --> 00:36:12,504 it was, uh, a little bit strange. 763 00:36:13,922 --> 00:36:16,049 Mike Jordan, not Jackson, 764 00:36:16,049 --> 00:36:17,342 he doesn't wear one white glove. 765 00:36:17,342 --> 00:36:19,511 He wears strange-looking sneakers. 766 00:36:19,511 --> 00:36:22,180 I saw it and I went, "Interesting." 767 00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:23,932 Color was a big piece of it. 768 00:36:23,932 --> 00:36:25,392 It was a little bit of irreverence 769 00:36:25,392 --> 00:36:27,102 and something that no one else was doing. 770 00:36:27,644 --> 00:36:29,145 This culture, 771 00:36:29,145 --> 00:36:31,606 we're really kind of obsessed with nostalgia. 772 00:36:31,606 --> 00:36:33,608 It's like it was way before its time. 773 00:36:34,692 --> 00:36:36,027 It's gonna catch somebody's eyes. 774 00:36:36,027 --> 00:36:37,737 it's gonna give you an opinion, 775 00:36:37,737 --> 00:36:39,406 it's gonna have an impact on you 776 00:36:39,406 --> 00:36:41,449 because it's not what you're used to seeing. 777 00:36:44,953 --> 00:36:46,955 Michael Jordan did not wanna wear these colors. 778 00:36:47,247 --> 00:36:49,958 He wanted to wear powder blue, North Carolina colors. 779 00:36:50,458 --> 00:36:53,670 And I said, "No, you play for the Chicago Bulls. 780 00:36:56,047 --> 00:36:57,382 That's got to be between you and Mr. Reinsdorf, you know. 781 00:36:57,382 --> 00:37:00,009 I can't change the colors of the basketball team." 782 00:37:00,009 --> 00:37:03,680 It was actually this really clever marriage 783 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,349 of shoe and athlete, 784 00:37:06,349 --> 00:37:08,935 and how there was a story now to tell. 785 00:37:10,186 --> 00:37:11,646 It just felt like the-- 786 00:37:11,646 --> 00:37:13,940 he was doing what he was doing because of the shoe. 787 00:37:15,650 --> 00:37:18,027 Nobody has ever taken a team player 788 00:37:18,027 --> 00:37:19,863 and turned them into... 789 00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:21,865 a personality 790 00:37:21,865 --> 00:37:23,491 that you could market around. 791 00:37:24,284 --> 00:37:28,538 So we were gonna break some rules 792 00:37:28,538 --> 00:37:29,747 to get him there. 793 00:37:32,625 --> 00:37:34,752 In this conversation with Michael, 794 00:37:34,752 --> 00:37:38,214 I started to realize that not only am I talking to the best 795 00:37:38,214 --> 00:37:40,008 young basketball player, 796 00:37:40,008 --> 00:37:41,926 I'm also talking to somebody who actually had 797 00:37:41,926 --> 00:37:45,430 a really good eye, a really good fashion sense. 798 00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:47,891 It was the first time you saw a person, 799 00:37:47,891 --> 00:37:49,601 on a court, look just as good off the court. 800 00:37:49,601 --> 00:37:51,352 And kids in the street gonna look like that person. 801 00:37:51,352 --> 00:37:54,063 I couldn't dress like Dr. J. Dr. J was in a suit. 802 00:37:54,355 --> 00:37:57,150 I couldn't dress like some of the heroes from the 70s. 803 00:37:57,150 --> 00:37:58,776 It was totally different. 804 00:37:58,776 --> 00:38:01,738 You know, no one else had worn colored shoes before, 805 00:38:01,738 --> 00:38:03,948 and I felt like I wanted to be different. 806 00:38:03,948 --> 00:38:06,367 ♪ One, two, get down ♪ 807 00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:08,536 I think it only enhanced my game. 808 00:38:08,536 --> 00:38:10,163 You know my game at that time was... 809 00:38:10,163 --> 00:38:11,748 very unique within itself. 810 00:38:11,748 --> 00:38:14,042 Played in the air. Unafraid. 811 00:38:14,042 --> 00:38:16,044 Looked in the face of adversity 812 00:38:16,044 --> 00:38:17,462 to try to overcome. 813 00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:20,006 It just felt authentic to the style of play, 814 00:38:20,006 --> 00:38:21,716 to the way the sport had been played 815 00:38:21,716 --> 00:38:23,343 up to that point, and to a guy 816 00:38:23,343 --> 00:38:24,969 that sort of said, "Oh, what about this?" 817 00:38:25,303 --> 00:38:27,722 But really it's like, that's the beginning 818 00:38:27,722 --> 00:38:29,015 of trendsetters. 819 00:38:29,015 --> 00:38:31,601 I think a lot of people around the NBA 820 00:38:31,601 --> 00:38:33,394 are talking about Michael Jordan. 821 00:38:33,394 --> 00:38:35,522 Michael got to realize that he's not seven foot, 822 00:38:35,522 --> 00:38:38,191 so he's not gonna carry a team in the NBA. 823 00:38:38,191 --> 00:38:39,817 In the NBA, there's really not 824 00:38:39,817 --> 00:38:41,277 any such thing as a one-man team. 825 00:38:41,277 --> 00:38:43,321 And I don't think that you can come in expecting 826 00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:45,573 one guy to turn the whole thing around. 827 00:38:45,573 --> 00:38:47,367 ♪ Paid the cost to be the boss ♪ 828 00:38:47,367 --> 00:38:49,452 Turns out he was exactly the guy 829 00:38:49,452 --> 00:38:50,870 who could pull it off. 830 00:38:52,622 --> 00:38:56,834 Unbelievable. Larry Bird at the buzzer. 831 00:38:56,834 --> 00:38:58,670 I can't imagine what it must have been like 832 00:38:58,670 --> 00:39:00,463 if you were an established NBA player 833 00:39:00,463 --> 00:39:02,715 and then this dude walks in here, 834 00:39:02,715 --> 00:39:04,133 and he's taking on everybody. 835 00:39:04,133 --> 00:39:06,511 Larry Bird was the darling of the league, right? 836 00:39:06,511 --> 00:39:08,555 Everyone loves Magic. 837 00:39:08,555 --> 00:39:10,223 And then suddenly the shoes come out. 838 00:39:10,223 --> 00:39:12,642 Right? Like, you've been a top basketball player. 839 00:39:12,642 --> 00:39:14,686 Every room you walk into, you are the man. 840 00:39:14,686 --> 00:39:17,480 Now, when this dude walks in, he's the man. 841 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,983 And he just showed up here. 842 00:39:19,983 --> 00:39:22,569 I can't imagine how infuriating that has to be 843 00:39:22,569 --> 00:39:24,737 if you're just another guy in the NBA. 844 00:39:26,072 --> 00:39:28,575 There wasn't a player at that time 845 00:39:28,575 --> 00:39:31,995 who had really thumbed their nose 846 00:39:31,995 --> 00:39:33,413 to the league before. 847 00:39:34,038 --> 00:39:35,873 And surely not a black man. 848 00:39:36,916 --> 00:39:39,335 And then you understand that everybody wanted 849 00:39:39,335 --> 00:39:40,670 to be in these shoes. 850 00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:42,547 It doesn't matter what color you are. 851 00:39:42,547 --> 00:39:44,424 I wanna be a part of that. 852 00:39:44,424 --> 00:39:47,135 Well, it just opened up a whole new horizon for, 853 00:39:47,135 --> 00:39:50,471 um, players to be able to express their individuality. 854 00:39:50,930 --> 00:39:52,181 I think there was this... 855 00:39:52,557 --> 00:39:53,891 desire... 856 00:39:53,891 --> 00:39:55,143 on the part of us, and Michael, 857 00:39:55,143 --> 00:39:56,644 to be different, to be leaders, 858 00:39:56,644 --> 00:39:58,438 to do things differently, which... 859 00:39:58,438 --> 00:40:01,899 almost always requires some breaking of rules. 860 00:40:02,525 --> 00:40:04,193 What Nike and Michael Jordan 861 00:40:04,193 --> 00:40:06,738 created together was a game changer. 862 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,324 And I think the most creative people 863 00:40:09,324 --> 00:40:10,241 in any facet 864 00:40:11,576 --> 00:40:13,161 are the ones that are those rebels that do that. 865 00:40:13,494 --> 00:40:14,954 They don't wanna live by the rules. 866 00:40:14,954 --> 00:40:16,706 They wanna understand the rules 867 00:40:17,081 --> 00:40:18,625 but they don't wanna live by them. 868 00:40:26,215 --> 00:40:28,176 Rod Thorn who was my general manager 869 00:40:28,176 --> 00:40:29,802 came down and said he got a phone call 870 00:40:29,802 --> 00:40:31,054 from the league." 871 00:40:32,805 --> 00:40:35,350 Shoes were not uniform 872 00:40:35,350 --> 00:40:38,019 to what's required with the NBA. 873 00:40:40,688 --> 00:40:42,899 Oh, my goodness, well we screwed up now. 874 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,571 We have the shoe, and David Stern throws 875 00:40:48,571 --> 00:40:50,531 a wrench in the thing by saying, 876 00:40:50,531 --> 00:40:52,241 "You can't wear that shoe." 877 00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:06,881 The turning point was when the NBA banned... 878 00:41:07,632 --> 00:41:08,883 his shoes. 879 00:41:08,883 --> 00:41:10,134 They were worried. 880 00:41:10,134 --> 00:41:11,886 You know, he's a rookie in the league 881 00:41:11,886 --> 00:41:14,639 and he's now done something against his contract. 882 00:41:15,056 --> 00:41:17,016 Michael didn't wanna be a distraction. 883 00:41:17,016 --> 00:41:19,143 Michael is respectful, 884 00:41:19,143 --> 00:41:21,062 and his parents raised him to be that way. 885 00:41:21,521 --> 00:41:23,314 Why the hell would you ban a shoe 886 00:41:23,314 --> 00:41:25,024 that matches a uniform? 887 00:41:25,024 --> 00:41:26,693 Or you banned it because it looks cooler 888 00:41:26,693 --> 00:41:28,486 than every other shoe on the court? 889 00:41:28,486 --> 00:41:29,696 Are the other guys jealous? 890 00:41:29,696 --> 00:41:31,280 Are the guys on the other teams jealous? 891 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,032 Is it because it says his name? 892 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,077 Really didn't understand the ramifications 893 00:41:36,077 --> 00:41:37,870 of what was really happening. 894 00:41:38,204 --> 00:41:40,748 I didn't know the guidelines. I didn't know the rules. 895 00:41:40,748 --> 00:41:43,793 Um, I thought, "Hey, just-- you know, 896 00:41:43,793 --> 00:41:45,461 you sign a shoe contract, 897 00:41:45,461 --> 00:41:47,422 you design yourself a shoe, 898 00:41:47,422 --> 00:41:49,173 you go out and you play in the shoe. 899 00:41:49,966 --> 00:41:52,510 We didn't start with a lot of rules. 900 00:41:52,510 --> 00:41:55,930 If we came upon something that didn't exist, 901 00:41:55,930 --> 00:41:57,640 we would say, "You can't do that." 902 00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,058 Then the next year, we would put it 903 00:41:59,058 --> 00:42:00,601 in the operations manuals. 904 00:42:00,935 --> 00:42:02,645 Basically, we had the-- 905 00:42:02,645 --> 00:42:04,814 some fights with David Stern early on. 906 00:42:04,814 --> 00:42:08,818 We used to have some issues with all apparel companies. 907 00:42:09,152 --> 00:42:12,488 Because as we were trying to construct the league, 908 00:42:12,822 --> 00:42:15,074 we became quite protective of it. 909 00:42:15,074 --> 00:42:16,909 The NBA, I thought was encroaching 910 00:42:16,909 --> 00:42:18,828 on our contractual rights, and they thought 911 00:42:18,828 --> 00:42:20,913 we were taking over their 912 00:42:20,913 --> 00:42:22,540 basketball arena, I guess. 913 00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:25,543 We had a lot of problems. There were countless sponsors 914 00:42:25,543 --> 00:42:28,129 who would say to us, "Well, we really don't think, 915 00:42:28,629 --> 00:42:31,507 uh, the NBA can appeal to, uh-- to our market." 916 00:42:31,507 --> 00:42:33,843 And we were constantly fighting against those kinds of things 917 00:42:33,843 --> 00:42:36,929 in trying to upgrade the-- and the public image 918 00:42:36,929 --> 00:42:38,890 of both the game and the players. 919 00:42:38,890 --> 00:42:41,642 There was just a tremendous amount of attention 920 00:42:41,642 --> 00:42:45,313 to this-- this new young player and this shoe 921 00:42:45,313 --> 00:42:46,981 and of course Nike. 922 00:42:46,981 --> 00:42:49,776 And I think it scared the NBA. 923 00:42:49,776 --> 00:42:50,651 I should be careful here. 924 00:42:51,903 --> 00:42:52,612 I have to kind of edit myself a little bit. 925 00:42:53,905 --> 00:42:56,073 Michael Jordan was just out of his teens 926 00:42:56,073 --> 00:42:57,825 when he signed this deal with Nike. 927 00:42:58,326 --> 00:43:00,995 And the whole world changed for him. 928 00:43:00,995 --> 00:43:02,705 I was told that we had a problem 929 00:43:02,705 --> 00:43:05,374 because the shoe was-- had too much black in it. 930 00:43:05,374 --> 00:43:07,376 Uh, if we weren't careful, we'd end up with, uh, 931 00:43:07,376 --> 00:43:09,629 five players on the court for a team running around 932 00:43:09,629 --> 00:43:11,047 in five different color shoes 933 00:43:11,047 --> 00:43:13,007 and we didn't think that reflected well 934 00:43:13,007 --> 00:43:14,509 on the team notion. 935 00:43:15,885 --> 00:43:18,471 Uh, white or black, that's it, 936 00:43:18,471 --> 00:43:21,557 or with accents of your uniform. 937 00:43:21,557 --> 00:43:24,018 Outside of that, no, not gonna happen. 938 00:43:24,018 --> 00:43:25,311 We're not gonna have that here. 939 00:43:26,187 --> 00:43:28,981 The ban frankly was just David Stern 940 00:43:28,981 --> 00:43:31,275 being David Stern. 941 00:43:31,275 --> 00:43:33,361 Yes. There was a rule that the shoes 942 00:43:33,361 --> 00:43:35,863 had to match the uniform, but... 943 00:43:36,948 --> 00:43:38,115 ...we-- we did that. 944 00:43:38,115 --> 00:43:40,076 I mean, it-- it was the Bulls' colors. 945 00:43:40,076 --> 00:43:42,328 It wasn't like you could do them in Carolina blue. 946 00:43:42,328 --> 00:43:43,788 At the end of the day, 947 00:43:43,788 --> 00:43:45,164 the Bulls' color was red and black. 948 00:43:46,332 --> 00:43:48,084 I wanna make sure that the shoe 949 00:43:48,084 --> 00:43:50,878 is aesthetically pleasing to the eye. 950 00:43:50,878 --> 00:43:52,088 Nike was... 951 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,507 really confused about it at the time, 952 00:43:54,507 --> 00:43:55,800 but they said, "Well, okay. 953 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,385 Well, we'd think about-- we'll try to find 954 00:43:57,385 --> 00:43:59,303 some-- some other ways but in the meantime 955 00:43:59,303 --> 00:44:00,555 just keep wearing 'em." 956 00:44:01,973 --> 00:44:04,767 I don't think anybody here at that time had any idea 957 00:44:04,767 --> 00:44:06,394 that it was breaking any kind of rules 958 00:44:06,394 --> 00:44:08,062 as far as design code, and-- 959 00:44:08,062 --> 00:44:09,397 And, frankly, I don't think it did. 960 00:44:09,689 --> 00:44:12,149 Rob's reaction was, "Well, we're screwed. 961 00:44:12,149 --> 00:44:13,234 We're done." 962 00:44:13,234 --> 00:44:16,404 Rob had ordered about 50,000 pairs 963 00:44:16,404 --> 00:44:17,530 of these shoes. 964 00:44:17,822 --> 00:44:20,324 They were done, being delivered. 965 00:44:20,825 --> 00:44:23,119 You know, we figured we're gonna eat them. 966 00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:25,746 Rob goes back to New York to meet with Stern. 967 00:44:25,746 --> 00:44:27,540 I don't even remember what the motivation 968 00:44:27,540 --> 00:44:29,166 might have been for the rule. 969 00:44:29,166 --> 00:44:32,211 It was not a high priority at the time. 970 00:44:32,503 --> 00:44:33,713 Stern's... 971 00:44:34,505 --> 00:44:37,049 not sympathetic. 972 00:44:37,049 --> 00:44:39,093 You know, the decision was a rule's, a rule. 973 00:44:39,093 --> 00:44:41,888 We have to tell the Bulls and, I guess, Nike. 974 00:44:41,888 --> 00:44:43,806 Michael wouldn't be allowed to wear the shoe. 975 00:44:43,806 --> 00:44:46,142 On the way out the door, Stern says, 976 00:44:46,142 --> 00:44:49,604 "But, Rob, my son thinks I'm a jerk also, 977 00:44:49,604 --> 00:44:51,480 but can you send me a pair 978 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,524 of those shoes for my son?" 979 00:44:53,524 --> 00:44:55,776 You're not gonna get David Stern on camera to say... 980 00:44:57,403 --> 00:44:59,447 ...to fess up on that though. 981 00:44:59,447 --> 00:45:00,740 He ain't doing that. 982 00:45:00,740 --> 00:45:02,408 My actions weren't the source 983 00:45:02,408 --> 00:45:04,619 of great accolades in my home. 984 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,705 When I wore 'em the second time, 985 00:45:07,705 --> 00:45:09,123 the league came back saying, 986 00:45:09,123 --> 00:45:12,585 "Well, wear them again, you're gonna get fined $5000." 987 00:45:12,585 --> 00:45:15,004 Well, now , obviously, I-- I didn't have $5000 988 00:45:15,004 --> 00:45:17,048 to be giving to anybody at that stage in my career. 989 00:45:19,467 --> 00:45:21,093 Yeah, for them it was like... 990 00:45:21,594 --> 00:45:24,221 "Oh, yeah, okay. We might can work with that. 991 00:45:24,555 --> 00:45:26,057 Okay, let's just pay the fine." 992 00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:31,270 You have to respect how powerful that was 993 00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:33,022 to culture and to the world. 994 00:45:35,858 --> 00:45:37,318 It wasn't like an alternative. 995 00:45:38,527 --> 00:45:39,695 And it was just money. 996 00:45:41,113 --> 00:45:42,531 I mean, they didn't say, "You can't-- you can't play." 997 00:45:47,787 --> 00:45:49,497 Stern was old school, 998 00:45:49,497 --> 00:45:51,874 he just didn't like the idea that... 999 00:45:51,874 --> 00:45:53,876 this guy was gonna stick out. 1000 00:45:53,876 --> 00:45:56,128 So, he understood what we were doing. 1001 00:45:56,545 --> 00:45:58,839 You know, he's gonna protect his league. 1002 00:46:00,508 --> 00:46:02,426 It wasn't that the league was saying, 1003 00:46:02,426 --> 00:46:04,095 "You can't wear this special tread, 1004 00:46:04,095 --> 00:46:05,888 or it's gonna give you a competitive advantage." 1005 00:46:06,389 --> 00:46:07,640 It was fashion, 1006 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,934 and in fact, it didn't affect performance 1007 00:46:09,934 --> 00:46:11,143 in any way. 1008 00:46:11,143 --> 00:46:13,312 It was about a red pair of shoes. 1009 00:46:13,312 --> 00:46:15,606 And here, Michael, was living within these... 1010 00:46:15,606 --> 00:46:17,608 this overly restrictive league that was saying, 1011 00:46:17,608 --> 00:46:19,694 "You can't even wear red basketball shoes 1012 00:46:19,694 --> 00:46:20,611 on the court." 1013 00:46:21,696 --> 00:46:22,780 One of two things could've happen. 1014 00:46:22,780 --> 00:46:24,532 Nike could have been like, "Oh, yes. 1015 00:46:24,782 --> 00:46:26,033 Yes, Mr. Stern. 1016 00:46:26,033 --> 00:46:27,243 We're so sorry. 1017 00:46:27,243 --> 00:46:29,245 We'll get these to him in white tomorrow 1018 00:46:29,245 --> 00:46:30,913 and everything will be fine." 1019 00:46:32,456 --> 00:46:34,291 And they were like... 1020 00:46:34,291 --> 00:46:35,626 "No." 1021 00:46:35,626 --> 00:46:37,878 You know, because Nike was gonna pay 1022 00:46:37,878 --> 00:46:41,132 for the 82 games of playing with this shoe. 1023 00:46:41,132 --> 00:46:43,259 And the league said, "Well, we gotta stop that." 1024 00:46:45,678 --> 00:46:47,221 Let's not forget, like, 1025 00:46:47,638 --> 00:46:49,765 if Michael Jordan's making X amount of money. 1026 00:46:50,683 --> 00:46:52,768 The league and the powers that be 1027 00:46:52,768 --> 00:46:55,146 are making oo-de-lallys more, 1028 00:46:55,521 --> 00:46:58,524 and essentially feel like, "We can tell these motherfuckers 1029 00:46:58,524 --> 00:46:59,692 what to do. 1030 00:46:59,692 --> 00:47:01,944 When to jump, when to shoot, 1031 00:47:01,944 --> 00:47:04,739 when to sit down, when to talk, all of it, 1032 00:47:04,739 --> 00:47:06,615 because at the end of the day... 1033 00:47:06,615 --> 00:47:08,075 they got the keys. 1034 00:47:08,784 --> 00:47:11,871 Those acts are like trying to stomp out 1035 00:47:12,371 --> 00:47:14,290 people being individuals, 1036 00:47:15,082 --> 00:47:17,293 people expressing themselves. 1037 00:47:18,002 --> 00:47:20,212 It wasn't like athletes were able to express 1038 00:47:20,212 --> 00:47:22,798 who they were by their shoes. 1039 00:47:22,798 --> 00:47:24,633 Like, they were really cool 1040 00:47:24,633 --> 00:47:27,094 and they had, like, decent shoes. 1041 00:47:27,428 --> 00:47:29,972 No one had ever had a shoe that was a statement like, 1042 00:47:29,972 --> 00:47:31,307 "This is me." 1043 00:47:32,850 --> 00:47:34,477 What it did is it announced a new era, it was a new guard. 1044 00:47:34,477 --> 00:47:36,270 There was somebody that didn't care about the rules 1045 00:47:36,270 --> 00:47:37,438 because the rules were outdated. 1046 00:47:37,813 --> 00:47:40,483 Someone who doesn't want their parents, 1047 00:47:40,483 --> 00:47:41,776 their schools, 1048 00:47:42,068 --> 00:47:45,196 their job to shut them down from their dream. 1049 00:47:45,196 --> 00:47:46,614 It kind of exploded 1050 00:47:46,947 --> 00:47:49,283 because it wasn't just for us anymore. 1051 00:47:49,283 --> 00:47:50,409 It was like for the world. 1052 00:47:51,827 --> 00:47:53,245 It's like we wanted the world-- we wanted to be heard, 1053 00:47:53,245 --> 00:47:54,622 and that was something that we felt like could really 1054 00:47:54,622 --> 00:47:57,249 sort of speak to the world, and say, "We're here." 1055 00:47:57,249 --> 00:47:59,794 Because every other part of-- at least American culture, 1056 00:47:59,794 --> 00:48:02,463 was sort of trying to silence a people. 1057 00:48:03,380 --> 00:48:05,841 Understanding everybody's point of view, the differences, 1058 00:48:06,217 --> 00:48:07,343 accept that... 1059 00:48:08,594 --> 00:48:10,054 and be aware of that, 1060 00:48:10,054 --> 00:48:12,098 and be aware of where we are today. 1061 00:48:12,848 --> 00:48:14,350 It's not too far off. 1062 00:48:16,894 --> 00:48:18,562 It's a problem when you're that good. 1063 00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:19,939 There's really not any such thing 1064 00:48:19,939 --> 00:48:21,690 -as a one-man team. -You're that special. 1065 00:48:21,690 --> 00:48:23,901 I don't think anybody had any idea 1066 00:48:23,901 --> 00:48:25,611 that it was breaking any kind of rules. 1067 00:48:25,611 --> 00:48:28,823 -You're that defined. -We've got 50,000 of them 1068 00:48:28,823 --> 00:48:30,533 -on the water. -Nike was really 1069 00:48:30,533 --> 00:48:32,284 -pissed off about it. -And you're that different. 1070 00:48:32,284 --> 00:48:34,829 -You're that other. -They held their breath 1071 00:48:34,829 --> 00:48:36,539 at Nike. What did we do? 1072 00:48:36,539 --> 00:48:38,791 -Why the shoe get banned? -How you gonna ban 1073 00:48:38,791 --> 00:48:41,252 -greatness? -You just have to understand 1074 00:48:41,252 --> 00:48:43,170 -the-- the context. -You know, 1075 00:48:43,170 --> 00:48:45,131 he violated the rules. He wore the shoes. 1076 00:48:45,131 --> 00:48:46,757 Michael Jordan was so powerful. 1077 00:48:46,757 --> 00:48:48,467 There'd be some appropriate penalty 1078 00:48:48,467 --> 00:48:50,928 to make sure that the rule wasn't violated. 1079 00:48:51,887 --> 00:48:54,181 There was concern that it was too much. 1080 00:48:54,807 --> 00:48:56,267 You just can't be regular. 1081 00:49:00,187 --> 00:49:02,314 So then, you stand at the crossroads... 1082 00:49:03,941 --> 00:49:05,568 You know what, this thing 1083 00:49:05,568 --> 00:49:06,777 right here might be something. 1084 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,781 Might be something just a little special. 1085 00:49:17,746 --> 00:49:19,874 But this was one of those holy shit moments. 1086 00:49:19,874 --> 00:49:21,667 Something different is happening here, 1087 00:49:21,667 --> 00:49:22,877 and I wanna be a part of it. 1088 00:49:23,502 --> 00:49:25,004 There's all these, like... 1089 00:49:26,088 --> 00:49:28,716 weird things that all layered up perfectly 1090 00:49:28,716 --> 00:49:30,384 for where the world was at 1091 00:49:31,385 --> 00:49:35,431 in some, like, NBD, never been done before, 1092 00:49:35,431 --> 00:49:38,100 to change the direction 1093 00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:40,895 of an entire society. 1094 00:49:42,521 --> 00:49:44,231 I was just reading a little article 1095 00:49:44,231 --> 00:49:47,985 about the NBA banning, uh, Jordan's shoes. 1096 00:49:47,985 --> 00:49:49,111 It just clicked for me. 1097 00:49:50,487 --> 00:49:51,697 Well, it was Rob Strasser that got the letter, 1098 00:49:51,697 --> 00:49:53,157 and when I finished the letter, 1099 00:49:53,157 --> 00:49:54,158 I said, "Yes." 1100 00:49:54,158 --> 00:49:55,492 I wrote this simple spot, 1101 00:49:55,492 --> 00:49:57,661 and so I took that into my creative director. 1102 00:49:58,162 --> 00:49:59,830 And he said, "Hey, I love it." 1103 00:49:59,830 --> 00:50:01,332 But they don't have any more money, 1104 00:50:01,332 --> 00:50:03,292 their whole budget's been spent. 1105 00:50:03,292 --> 00:50:05,085 So, he told me to fly up to Beaverton 1106 00:50:05,085 --> 00:50:07,379 and see if you can sell it to them. 1107 00:50:07,379 --> 00:50:09,840 I'd never directed a commercial on my own before. 1108 00:50:10,174 --> 00:50:12,760 I said, "Look, give me thirty grand, 1109 00:50:13,177 --> 00:50:14,428 and I'll make it happen." 1110 00:50:23,479 --> 00:50:25,272 On September 15th, 1111 00:50:25,272 --> 00:50:28,984 Nike created a revolutionary new basketball shoe. 1112 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,070 On October 18th, 1113 00:50:31,070 --> 00:50:33,572 the NBA threw them out of the game. 1114 00:50:35,616 --> 00:50:38,202 Fortunately, the NBA can't stop you 1115 00:50:38,202 --> 00:50:39,578 from wearing them. 1116 00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,581 Air Jordans from Nike. 1117 00:50:43,499 --> 00:50:45,626 The NBA can ban it, 1118 00:50:45,626 --> 00:50:48,045 but they can't stop you from getting it. 1119 00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:50,464 Phew. 1120 00:50:50,965 --> 00:50:52,341 Brilliant. 1121 00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:58,514 The only thing that you get 1122 00:50:58,514 --> 00:51:01,767 from trying to silence something is that 1123 00:51:01,767 --> 00:51:04,520 you make it even more colossal, 1124 00:51:04,979 --> 00:51:06,397 and more impactful. 1125 00:51:07,439 --> 00:51:09,233 When you're 14, 13 years old, 1126 00:51:09,984 --> 00:51:10,859 those... 1127 00:51:11,986 --> 00:51:13,529 I want those. 1128 00:51:15,155 --> 00:51:16,615 It's-- It's liberating. 1129 00:51:16,615 --> 00:51:18,158 The league says, 1130 00:51:18,158 --> 00:51:20,494 I can't wear this, they like, fuck them. 1131 00:51:20,494 --> 00:51:21,787 I'm getting a pair." 1132 00:51:22,037 --> 00:51:23,372 I'm rolling with Mike. 1133 00:51:23,372 --> 00:51:25,165 It was a statement anti-establishment. 1134 00:51:25,874 --> 00:51:27,918 We don't need to play by the rules. 1135 00:51:27,918 --> 00:51:29,336 We're bigger than the rules. 1136 00:51:30,421 --> 00:51:32,047 A spirit of rebellion, a spirit of youth, 1137 00:51:32,047 --> 00:51:33,590 a spirit of individuality. 1138 00:51:33,882 --> 00:51:37,636 You can't knock me down, you can't make me feel inferior, 1139 00:51:37,636 --> 00:51:40,597 and, like, not only am I dressed like you, 1140 00:51:40,597 --> 00:51:43,017 but I'm-- I'm also wearing cooler sneakers than you. 1141 00:51:43,017 --> 00:51:44,393 That's what I like, man. 1142 00:51:44,393 --> 00:51:46,478 The kids that say, "Fuck it, I'm gonna do it my way." 1143 00:51:46,478 --> 00:51:48,105 I'm not gonna follow all the peers 1144 00:51:48,105 --> 00:51:50,357 and follow all of the-- the bullshit. 1145 00:51:50,357 --> 00:51:52,735 Being unique to who you are. 1146 00:51:52,985 --> 00:51:54,361 Make your own mark on the world. 1147 00:51:54,361 --> 00:51:55,904 You don't wanna be just like them. 1148 00:51:55,904 --> 00:51:57,031 They were banned. 1149 00:51:57,656 --> 00:52:00,409 Outlawed, you know, counter culture. 1150 00:52:03,412 --> 00:52:05,539 Stand up against the man, you know. 1151 00:52:06,582 --> 00:52:08,125 That's the way it was interpreted. 1152 00:52:08,625 --> 00:52:11,337 Oh, left hand. Hey, K.O. by love. 1153 00:52:11,337 --> 00:52:14,089 I think the rebel part of it is about change. 1154 00:52:14,089 --> 00:52:16,884 We're gonna power our way into culture. 1155 00:52:17,343 --> 00:52:19,178 We're gonna yell as loud as we can, 1156 00:52:19,178 --> 00:52:21,055 and hold our Johnsons. 1157 00:52:21,055 --> 00:52:23,098 To be a part of that, 1158 00:52:23,098 --> 00:52:24,725 just by having the pair of shoes. 1159 00:52:24,725 --> 00:52:26,101 Oh shit, like, 1160 00:52:26,101 --> 00:52:28,103 The AJ 1 is it. 1161 00:52:28,103 --> 00:52:29,271 This is the sneaker. 1162 00:52:30,689 --> 00:52:31,774 Then it just became this thing, it was like The Grail. 1163 00:52:31,774 --> 00:52:34,151 "Holy shit, man, you got-- oh, my God." 1164 00:52:34,151 --> 00:52:36,153 You know, it just-- it became lore. 1165 00:52:36,153 --> 00:52:37,988 It became that thing that you had to have. 1166 00:52:38,322 --> 00:52:40,699 You know, as a young kid who didn't want what was hot? 1167 00:52:40,699 --> 00:52:42,826 The 50,000 pairs were gone like that. 1168 00:52:43,118 --> 00:52:45,579 Every night, I'm gonna lace up these shoes, 1169 00:52:45,579 --> 00:52:47,039 and I'm gonna do things... 1170 00:52:48,082 --> 00:52:51,668 that are so beautifully fucked up 1171 00:52:51,668 --> 00:52:53,796 in them, artistry, 1172 00:52:54,630 --> 00:52:58,509 you really can't tell me shit. 1173 00:52:59,218 --> 00:53:00,260 Before you know it... 1174 00:53:00,886 --> 00:53:02,554 what's David Stern gonna do 1175 00:53:02,554 --> 00:53:05,349 when Michael Jordan has the whole planet 1176 00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:06,600 behind him. 1177 00:53:07,059 --> 00:53:08,394 I thought it was a... 1178 00:53:08,852 --> 00:53:11,772 a genius marketing campaign, 1179 00:53:12,940 --> 00:53:14,566 but they were never banned. 1180 00:53:16,860 --> 00:53:18,862 Once anything gets banned 1181 00:53:18,862 --> 00:53:20,614 it becomes the coolest thing in the world, right? 1182 00:53:20,614 --> 00:53:21,865 It doesn't matter what it is. 1183 00:53:21,865 --> 00:53:23,075 Once somebody says, 1184 00:53:23,075 --> 00:53:24,410 "You're not supposed to have it." 1185 00:53:24,410 --> 00:53:26,370 Then all of a sudden, everybody has to have it. 1186 00:53:26,370 --> 00:53:28,497 And then, it becomes easier for an urban legend 1187 00:53:28,497 --> 00:53:29,373 to start around. 1188 00:53:30,624 --> 00:53:32,251 They had so much of a frightening dare, 1189 00:53:32,251 --> 00:53:35,754 and ego and exuberance that the NBA had to put 1190 00:53:35,754 --> 00:53:38,382 bans on the players expressions. 1191 00:53:38,382 --> 00:53:40,926 I was under the impression that he wore them every game, 1192 00:53:40,926 --> 00:53:42,511 they were banned because of the colors. 1193 00:53:42,511 --> 00:53:44,555 They were banned because there wasn't enough white in them. 1194 00:53:44,805 --> 00:53:47,558 The league sent a letter to Nike, saying that 1195 00:53:47,558 --> 00:53:49,476 they were getting fined because it wasn't approved. 1196 00:53:49,476 --> 00:53:51,395 And he's continued to wear them every game 1197 00:53:51,395 --> 00:53:53,272 and Nike was fined $5000. 1198 00:53:53,272 --> 00:53:56,567 And we were more than willing to pay the fines. 1199 00:53:56,859 --> 00:53:59,153 I knew more about the fine, like, later in life. 1200 00:53:59,153 --> 00:54:01,238 Like, that became part of, like, the legend. 1201 00:54:01,238 --> 00:54:04,491 The shoe was brought to the NBA for approval 1202 00:54:04,491 --> 00:54:07,077 because his-- the season was starting right there. 1203 00:54:07,327 --> 00:54:09,288 I remember being brought into an office 1204 00:54:09,288 --> 00:54:11,248 where I was shown the shoe, 1205 00:54:11,248 --> 00:54:13,292 and I was told that we had a problem. 1206 00:54:13,292 --> 00:54:14,918 I don't have any recollection 1207 00:54:15,586 --> 00:54:17,671 of, uh, when I first saw them. 1208 00:54:18,213 --> 00:54:21,258 Now, for some reason that I-- I really don't recollect. 1209 00:54:21,258 --> 00:54:24,303 I authored a, uh-- and signed a letter... 1210 00:54:24,303 --> 00:54:25,554 uh, to Nike 1211 00:54:25,554 --> 00:54:28,807 that advised them that the shoe was, uh, 1212 00:54:28,807 --> 00:54:31,310 was not-- did not meet our rules. 1213 00:54:31,310 --> 00:54:32,895 It was banned by the NBA. 1214 00:54:33,312 --> 00:54:35,898 David Stern banned the Air Jordan, 1215 00:54:36,148 --> 00:54:37,357 there's no question. 1216 00:54:38,650 --> 00:54:41,320 They didn't comply with league rules, 1217 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:42,613 but they were never banned. 1218 00:54:43,655 --> 00:54:44,948 They were never banned. 1219 00:54:54,583 --> 00:54:56,877 We've been talking about them a lot recently. 1220 00:54:56,877 --> 00:54:58,253 There's been a lot of noise 1221 00:54:58,253 --> 00:54:59,922 -in the history of the shoe. -Arguably, 1222 00:54:59,922 --> 00:55:01,965 the most important factor in its colorway's appeal, 1223 00:55:01,965 --> 00:55:04,510 is the fact that it's banned by the NBA, or so we thought. 1224 00:55:04,510 --> 00:55:06,929 And many believed the Airship is actually the shoe 1225 00:55:06,929 --> 00:55:08,847 that was banned by the NBA. 1226 00:55:08,847 --> 00:55:11,141 Ban name on these and help it sell, but what happened... 1227 00:55:11,141 --> 00:55:12,768 But many of you heard the story... 1228 00:55:14,811 --> 00:55:17,064 ...but none of that has been confirmed. 1229 00:55:17,064 --> 00:55:18,815 However, it seems the colors were accurate 1230 00:55:18,815 --> 00:55:20,567 in regards to being banned by the NBA, 1231 00:55:20,567 --> 00:55:22,819 but not the shoe itself. In our Complex article 1232 00:55:22,819 --> 00:55:25,197 Russ Bengston explains in detail how the Nike Airship 1233 00:55:25,197 --> 00:55:27,032 was a catalyst for the NBA's ban on the colorway. 1234 00:55:27,282 --> 00:55:29,284 As you can see in this video, MJ is sporting 1235 00:55:29,284 --> 00:55:30,744 the Nike Airship during pregame 1236 00:55:30,744 --> 00:55:32,955 prior to his Madison Square Garden debut. 1237 00:55:34,081 --> 00:55:35,624 Maybe it's the Airship that's banned, 1238 00:55:35,624 --> 00:55:37,459 or it might be the Air Jordan I. 1239 00:55:37,459 --> 00:55:39,503 Right? We don't know exactly which one. 1240 00:55:39,836 --> 00:55:41,797 No one really is right. 1241 00:55:41,797 --> 00:55:44,716 I think if anyone tries to overthink 1242 00:55:44,716 --> 00:55:46,301 what happened back then, 1243 00:55:46,301 --> 00:55:47,594 they're missing the point. 1244 00:55:47,594 --> 00:55:49,012 The beauty of the urban legend 1245 00:55:49,012 --> 00:55:51,306 is it can be basically for whatever you want it to be. 1246 00:55:51,306 --> 00:55:53,433 It almost doesn't matter after that point. 1247 00:55:54,059 --> 00:55:56,186 Designing a physical product 1248 00:55:56,186 --> 00:55:59,523 for an athlete is what my background is focused on. 1249 00:55:59,523 --> 00:56:00,983 Basic timeline for that process 1250 00:56:00,983 --> 00:56:03,026 is anywhere from 18 months, 1251 00:56:03,026 --> 00:56:04,695 all the way out to five years. 1252 00:56:04,695 --> 00:56:07,072 Uh, the meeting that we had 1253 00:56:07,072 --> 00:56:09,866 and, uh, with Falk, was in August, 1254 00:56:09,866 --> 00:56:12,369 and we wanted him to play basketball 1255 00:56:12,369 --> 00:56:14,955 in the product in the end of September, 1256 00:56:14,955 --> 00:56:16,373 or first part of October. 1257 00:56:16,999 --> 00:56:19,876 So, we had to get... 1258 00:56:19,876 --> 00:56:21,962 all of this done. 1259 00:56:21,962 --> 00:56:24,631 We couldn't do that with a brand new shoe, 1260 00:56:24,631 --> 00:56:26,258 we didn't have enough time. 1261 00:56:26,258 --> 00:56:27,926 You know, it was, uh... 1262 00:56:27,926 --> 00:56:30,429 an impossible task, frankly. 1263 00:56:31,513 --> 00:56:35,225 So, Airship became the shoes that he would wear 1264 00:56:35,767 --> 00:56:38,895 while his shoe was being prepared. 1265 00:56:39,146 --> 00:56:42,149 And we colored the Airship in red, black, and white. 1266 00:56:44,109 --> 00:56:47,571 So he was gonna have to start to play in look-a-likes 1267 00:56:47,571 --> 00:56:49,323 because I didn't want him wearing white shoes 1268 00:56:49,323 --> 00:56:51,199 then all of a sudden, showing up in colored shoes. 1269 00:56:51,199 --> 00:56:54,328 The idea was that this colorways was his shoe. 1270 00:56:54,328 --> 00:56:58,915 I think the-- the reason why so much is made 1271 00:56:59,625 --> 00:57:01,960 about what could or couldn't be, 1272 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,587 or will or won't be true, 1273 00:57:03,587 --> 00:57:07,299 or what day or who said, and why 1274 00:57:08,050 --> 00:57:09,635 was because it's this rookie, 1275 00:57:09,635 --> 00:57:11,845 this brand-new shoe that looks totally different 1276 00:57:11,845 --> 00:57:13,263 than everything else, 1277 00:57:13,263 --> 00:57:14,723 and it's breaking the rules, 1278 00:57:14,723 --> 00:57:16,767 and he's not even two months in. 1279 00:57:19,102 --> 00:57:20,854 When you don't understand something, 1280 00:57:21,563 --> 00:57:23,690 there's gonna be controversy around it, 1281 00:57:23,690 --> 00:57:25,108 but it wasn't about a date, 1282 00:57:25,108 --> 00:57:26,568 it wasn't about who banned it, 1283 00:57:26,568 --> 00:57:27,903 it wasn't about a reason why. 1284 00:57:28,278 --> 00:57:29,613 All that matters is, 1285 00:57:29,613 --> 00:57:30,822 this shoe was... 1286 00:57:31,782 --> 00:57:32,658 out of this world. 1287 00:57:33,075 --> 00:57:35,202 This particular sneaker 1288 00:57:35,202 --> 00:57:37,746 brought with it a kind of heroicism 1289 00:57:38,121 --> 00:57:43,043 that made it desirable at an unprecedented level. 1290 00:57:43,335 --> 00:57:44,920 Hello, again, everybody, 1291 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,174 and welcome to the 1985 NBA Slam Dunk Championship. 1292 00:57:49,174 --> 00:57:50,842 It wasn't as if that Air Jordan 1293 00:57:50,842 --> 00:57:52,386 never was seen on a stage. 1294 00:57:52,386 --> 00:57:54,054 He wore them in the dunk contest 1295 00:57:54,054 --> 00:57:55,889 of 1985's All Star Weekend. 1296 00:57:55,889 --> 00:57:57,557 All right, here's Michael Jordan 1297 00:57:57,557 --> 00:57:59,768 of the Chicago Bulls. Six-six rookie. 1298 00:57:59,768 --> 00:58:01,812 Slam, beautiful. Out of sight. 1299 00:58:01,812 --> 00:58:04,064 You know, he showed up as this brash rookie, 1300 00:58:04,064 --> 00:58:05,816 and he had, like, this special warm up suit 1301 00:58:05,816 --> 00:58:07,359 and he has his Air Jordan s, 1302 00:58:07,359 --> 00:58:09,945 and he had some gold chains on and the earring. 1303 00:58:09,945 --> 00:58:11,613 In 1985, 1304 00:58:11,613 --> 00:58:13,073 and to a bunch of ten-year-old kids, 1305 00:58:13,073 --> 00:58:14,491 like, dunking became, 1306 00:58:14,491 --> 00:58:16,410 like, the thing to do 1307 00:58:16,410 --> 00:58:17,369 in Kansas. 1308 00:58:17,953 --> 00:58:19,454 It's not a dunking state, 1309 00:58:19,454 --> 00:58:20,747 we're a jump shot state. 1310 00:58:20,747 --> 00:58:22,708 I just was like, "I wish I could do that. 1311 00:58:22,708 --> 00:58:23,792 I wish I could do that." 1312 00:58:25,961 --> 00:58:27,170 I wish I could do that. 1313 00:58:27,170 --> 00:58:29,548 Like the flare on the dunk contest, 1314 00:58:29,548 --> 00:58:32,092 you know what I'm saying? You just can't not see that. 1315 00:58:32,092 --> 00:58:33,719 You can't take it back, you know? 1316 00:58:33,719 --> 00:58:35,721 You see those shoes flare, and you're just like, 1317 00:58:35,721 --> 00:58:37,222 "Oh, they're wings." 1318 00:58:37,222 --> 00:58:38,807 Look at this. Now he's putting down-- 1319 00:58:38,807 --> 00:58:40,142 Tape on the foul line. 1320 00:58:40,142 --> 00:58:41,727 That's for the old take-off. 1321 00:58:41,727 --> 00:58:43,270 That's what-- Yeah, he wants to indicate 1322 00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:45,313 where he's going to take off on this dunk. 1323 00:58:46,022 --> 00:58:47,983 -Fly! Slam it! -Whoo! 1324 00:58:47,983 --> 00:58:50,026 Hey Marvin, sure that's Michael Jordan? 1325 00:58:50,026 --> 00:58:52,863 And his foot was honest to that tape. 1326 00:58:53,447 --> 00:58:54,531 That's a ten to me. 1327 00:58:54,531 --> 00:58:55,866 Michael wore the shoe. 1328 00:58:55,866 --> 00:58:58,326 I heard about it, somebody put it in front of me, 1329 00:58:58,326 --> 00:59:00,787 I saw it, I wanted to create that. 1330 00:59:00,787 --> 00:59:02,956 So, the AJ1's reverence 1331 00:59:03,248 --> 00:59:06,293 lead to this series of events where people like me 1332 00:59:06,293 --> 00:59:08,462 were able to find this artifact 1333 00:59:08,462 --> 00:59:10,380 that encouraged us to pursue our own destiny. 1334 00:59:10,380 --> 00:59:13,425 There are a number of creation myths 1335 00:59:13,425 --> 00:59:15,844 around the NBA, of the way things have happened, 1336 00:59:15,844 --> 00:59:19,389 that don't quite match up with historical facts. 1337 00:59:19,389 --> 00:59:21,641 And we all sort of got to chuckle about that, 1338 00:59:21,641 --> 00:59:23,685 and we thought that was pretty innovative, 1339 00:59:23,685 --> 00:59:26,480 what they had done with the circumstances. 1340 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,357 Remember, red and black on their away uniform... 1341 00:59:30,317 --> 00:59:32,861 then white was like their home uniform. 1342 00:59:32,861 --> 00:59:35,071 First thing I remember about the real shoe was 1343 00:59:35,071 --> 00:59:36,615 we made some samples 1344 00:59:36,615 --> 00:59:38,992 and showed those to him, and he picked three. 1345 00:59:41,077 --> 00:59:44,206 Either way he was gonna stand out. 1346 00:59:44,790 --> 00:59:48,543 It was the guy that nobody was ever gonna be like. 1347 00:59:48,543 --> 00:59:50,003 You're gonna have a bunch of guys 1348 00:59:50,003 --> 00:59:51,463 that are gonna come close, gonna... 1349 00:59:51,838 --> 00:59:54,132 "Oh, oh, man, he reminds me of MJ." 1350 00:59:54,132 --> 00:59:56,009 You can remind as much as you want. 1351 00:59:56,009 --> 00:59:56,885 You're not MJ. 1352 00:59:58,470 --> 01:00:00,514 Hate it, love it, believe it, discredit it, it still happened. 1353 01:00:00,514 --> 01:00:02,724 And so, that's what I take away from it, 1354 01:00:02,724 --> 01:00:04,768 is being yourself on purpose in public all the time 1355 01:00:04,768 --> 01:00:06,978 is the most important thing you can do as a human being, 1356 01:00:06,978 --> 01:00:08,563 and Michael did it on the grandest stage. 1357 01:00:08,563 --> 01:00:10,982 I don't believe what I just saw! 1358 01:00:10,982 --> 01:00:12,984 I saw a man fly! 1359 01:00:24,955 --> 01:00:28,542 Hip hop was the first co-signer of, 1360 01:00:28,542 --> 01:00:30,669 "This sneaker is what you wanna wear." 1361 01:00:30,669 --> 01:00:33,171 Hip hop being graffiti... 1362 01:00:34,172 --> 01:00:38,802 break dancing, and MCs rapping over beats. 1363 01:00:39,177 --> 01:00:41,847 People were doing it, and they expressed themselves. 1364 01:00:41,847 --> 01:00:44,599 The whole spirit of what those sneakers meant 1365 01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:47,143 really spoke to this rebelliousness 1366 01:00:47,143 --> 01:00:48,645 that was like, "Damn." 1367 01:00:49,938 --> 01:00:52,190 That really just changed the entire course. 1368 01:00:52,190 --> 01:00:53,942 You know, in hip hop, we talk about 1369 01:00:53,942 --> 01:00:56,152 what's going on in our lives, 1370 01:00:56,152 --> 01:00:59,030 and we're telling stories of our perspective. 1371 01:00:59,030 --> 01:01:02,826 We have an outlet where we can express our passion. 1372 01:01:02,826 --> 01:01:04,995 I think that was an important thing 1373 01:01:04,995 --> 01:01:05,996 about the Jordan, 1374 01:01:07,289 --> 01:01:08,832 that it had a story right from the beginning. 1375 01:01:08,832 --> 01:01:11,418 And that's connected to hip hop. So, it's all about stories. 1376 01:01:11,418 --> 01:01:13,003 I got a little story to tell you. 1377 01:01:13,003 --> 01:01:16,131 And it's very much like they've been in step 1378 01:01:16,131 --> 01:01:17,757 with each other in that respect. 1379 01:01:17,757 --> 01:01:20,302 I'm telling you, every pair of Jordans comes with a story, 1380 01:01:20,302 --> 01:01:22,137 A million stories, even. 1381 01:01:22,137 --> 01:01:23,430 Everybody that has them 1382 01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:25,390 wanted them for some real reason. 1383 01:01:25,390 --> 01:01:28,727 I remember sitting in our house, and my brother brought home 1384 01:01:28,727 --> 01:01:30,770 NWA's record, Straight Outta Compton. 1385 01:01:30,770 --> 01:01:32,272 ♪ Straight Outta Compton ♪ 1386 01:01:32,272 --> 01:01:33,940 ♪ Crazy motherfucker named Ice Cube ♪ 1387 01:01:33,940 --> 01:01:36,026 ♪ From the gang called Niggaz With Attitudes ♪ 1388 01:01:36,026 --> 01:01:37,903 And we were listening to it on a record player. 1389 01:01:37,903 --> 01:01:39,404 And my mother just lost it. 1390 01:01:39,404 --> 01:01:42,157 She was like, "What the fuck is this? 1391 01:01:42,449 --> 01:01:45,243 Turn that shit off. Are you out of your mind?" 1392 01:01:45,243 --> 01:01:46,995 ♪ Goin' off on the Motherfucker like that ♪ 1393 01:01:46,995 --> 01:01:48,371 And we just thought it was 1394 01:01:48,371 --> 01:01:49,664 the greatest thing we ever heard. 1395 01:01:50,248 --> 01:01:52,667 I saw Eazy-E wearing Jordans, 1396 01:01:52,667 --> 01:01:55,003 and you know, I'm like, "Dang, that's dope!" 1397 01:01:55,003 --> 01:01:56,838 Like, look at how cool this guy looks. 1398 01:01:56,838 --> 01:01:59,215 ♪ ...for the one they call Eazy But here's a flash... ♪ 1399 01:01:59,215 --> 01:02:01,468 But, like, some of the first albums I had 1400 01:02:01,468 --> 01:02:05,263 growing up were N.W.A., The Chronic, Doggystyle. 1401 01:02:05,639 --> 01:02:07,015 And seeing a lot of things, like, 1402 01:02:07,015 --> 01:02:10,727 from the Public Enemy videos, and still, the stuff 1403 01:02:10,727 --> 01:02:13,146 that I wouldn't even imagine people doing on videos today. 1404 01:02:13,146 --> 01:02:15,357 ♪ I'm countin' down To the day, deservin' ♪ 1405 01:02:15,357 --> 01:02:16,942 ♪ Fittin' for a king ♪ 1406 01:02:16,942 --> 01:02:19,235 ♪ I'm waiting for the time When I can get to Arizona ♪ 1407 01:02:19,235 --> 01:02:20,612 ♪ 'Cause my money's spent... ♪ 1408 01:02:20,612 --> 01:02:23,114 Politically, it was very much awake. 1409 01:02:23,573 --> 01:02:26,493 You know, you were faced with the circumstances, 1410 01:02:26,493 --> 01:02:30,163 and it come from the presidential switch, 1411 01:02:30,163 --> 01:02:32,457 but the strength of the music and the culture 1412 01:02:32,457 --> 01:02:36,044 gave us some hope, something to look forward to. 1413 01:02:36,044 --> 01:02:40,256 And then, fight those situations that try to keep you back. 1414 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,926 Growing up in Compton in that era, 1415 01:02:42,926 --> 01:02:45,971 and listening to what they were reporting, 1416 01:02:46,596 --> 01:02:49,307 because they were talking about and hitting points 1417 01:02:49,557 --> 01:02:51,184 that we weren't seeing 1418 01:02:51,893 --> 01:02:53,353 in the mainstream media. 1419 01:02:53,895 --> 01:02:56,690 And all those things that were swirling at that time, 1420 01:02:56,690 --> 01:02:58,692 it helped me write "Fight the Power". 1421 01:02:58,692 --> 01:03:00,318 ♪ Fight the power ♪ 1422 01:03:00,318 --> 01:03:01,695 ♪ Fight the power ♪ 1423 01:03:03,446 --> 01:03:05,407 And "Fight the Power" doesn't become an anthem 1424 01:03:05,407 --> 01:03:06,658 without Spike Lee. 1425 01:03:07,325 --> 01:03:09,911 Spike Lee's Mars Blackmon character 1426 01:03:10,203 --> 01:03:13,832 for She's Gotta Have It was the first b-boy 1427 01:03:13,832 --> 01:03:15,709 that got, you know, cinema play. 1428 01:03:18,003 --> 01:03:20,505 What about Nola Darling? What do you wanna know? 1429 01:03:20,505 --> 01:03:21,715 I thought she was a freak. 1430 01:03:21,715 --> 01:03:24,092 Mars is a b-boy, loved ball, 1431 01:03:24,092 --> 01:03:25,760 and so it's just natural... 1432 01:03:27,012 --> 01:03:28,722 for Mars to wear Jordans. 1433 01:03:30,473 --> 01:03:33,560 Mars loves his Jordans so much. 1434 01:03:33,935 --> 01:03:37,355 When he's making love with Nola, he still has his Jordans on. 1435 01:03:39,607 --> 01:03:42,444 Spike had that hat flipped up with the AJ1s, 1436 01:03:42,444 --> 01:03:44,612 and it was just, like, this iconic look. 1437 01:03:44,612 --> 01:03:46,656 I helped bring it into the mainstream. 1438 01:03:46,656 --> 01:03:48,950 Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, In the House, 1439 01:03:48,950 --> 01:03:51,369 LL, we did everything we could to bring it in 1440 01:03:51,369 --> 01:03:52,871 because I believed in it. 1441 01:03:52,871 --> 01:03:54,497 And that really took hip hop 1442 01:03:54,497 --> 01:03:56,958 and the style of music to a whole 'nother level. 1443 01:03:56,958 --> 01:03:59,252 In terms of revolutionary dress, or... 1444 01:04:00,253 --> 01:04:01,713 saying what you feel politically... 1445 01:04:01,713 --> 01:04:03,256 I'm not guessing. 1446 01:04:03,256 --> 01:04:06,384 Bebop, doo-wop, hip hop, laptop, okay. 1447 01:04:10,889 --> 01:04:14,350 Before social media, you saw these outfits 1448 01:04:14,350 --> 01:04:17,645 and these footwear moments during music videos, 1449 01:04:17,645 --> 01:04:19,147 whether it was Jay-Z, 1450 01:04:19,481 --> 01:04:22,025 Nas, or Wu-Tang, 1451 01:04:22,317 --> 01:04:24,778 these guys all worshipped the Jordan brand. 1452 01:04:25,361 --> 01:04:27,238 It's a lifestyle, it's a culture, 1453 01:04:27,238 --> 01:04:28,698 it's powerful. 1454 01:04:28,698 --> 01:04:30,200 ♪ And I'm cool like that ♪ 1455 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,452 ♪ I'm cool like that I'm cool like that ♪ 1456 01:04:32,452 --> 01:04:34,954 ♪ I'm cool like that I'm cool like that ♪ 1457 01:04:34,954 --> 01:04:35,872 ♪ I'm cool like that ♪ 1458 01:04:37,373 --> 01:04:38,583 I think that's when Jordans really took a turn 1459 01:04:38,583 --> 01:04:41,252 and, like, really became this different thing 1460 01:04:41,252 --> 01:04:43,630 where graffiti artists or artists in general 1461 01:04:43,630 --> 01:04:45,173 started to implement that. 1462 01:04:45,173 --> 01:04:47,592 To have the opportunity to wear something that said, 1463 01:04:47,592 --> 01:04:50,970 "I'm cool, I have style, I care about fashion, 1464 01:04:50,970 --> 01:04:53,098 and my game is better than yours"... 1465 01:04:53,098 --> 01:04:55,350 This was something that that shoe said 1466 01:04:55,350 --> 01:04:57,185 without you having to say it out loud. 1467 01:04:57,185 --> 01:04:59,270 You started seeing all the cross-pollination, 1468 01:04:59,270 --> 01:05:04,234 and basketball players wanted to be rappers and do rap videos 1469 01:05:04,234 --> 01:05:06,319 and, you know, every entertainer and rapper 1470 01:05:06,319 --> 01:05:08,822 now wanted to be a basketball player, 1471 01:05:08,822 --> 01:05:10,490 or get involved in sports. 1472 01:05:10,490 --> 01:05:13,535 And, you know, the shoes were the catalyst 1473 01:05:13,535 --> 01:05:15,161 for creating this culture. 1474 01:05:16,746 --> 01:05:18,706 Look at what it did for basketball! 1475 01:05:18,706 --> 01:05:20,834 That all happened because of Air Jordan. 1476 01:05:20,834 --> 01:05:23,336 The league has been both a leader, 1477 01:05:23,336 --> 01:05:27,048 but also a beneficiary of those changes in culture. 1478 01:05:27,048 --> 01:05:30,260 And made it the premiere sport 1479 01:05:30,969 --> 01:05:33,179 of the United States of America overnight. 1480 01:05:33,721 --> 01:05:35,056 Michael, is this the shoe-- 1481 01:05:35,056 --> 01:05:37,350 Of course, we can't show what kind of shoe this is. 1482 01:05:37,350 --> 01:05:38,893 That's okay, the colors stand for it. 1483 01:05:38,893 --> 01:05:40,520 But is this the shoe that the NBA 1484 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:41,813 -wouldn't let you wear? -Yeah. 1485 01:05:41,813 --> 01:05:43,189 The shoe... 1486 01:05:43,189 --> 01:05:47,610 was a foundational part 1487 01:05:47,610 --> 01:05:50,113 in the way our society sort of changed 1488 01:05:50,113 --> 01:05:51,531 and how people felt. 1489 01:05:51,531 --> 01:05:54,117 Like, I wanna embrace other things. 1490 01:05:54,117 --> 01:05:56,995 This one shoe changed 1491 01:05:56,995 --> 01:05:58,413 fashion and culture. 1492 01:05:58,413 --> 01:06:00,582 And I think it changed 1493 01:06:00,582 --> 01:06:04,377 the way being a young urban kid was something that was desirable 1494 01:06:04,377 --> 01:06:06,421 for people who weren't young urban kids. 1495 01:06:06,796 --> 01:06:09,132 I think I'm the living embodiment, 1496 01:06:09,132 --> 01:06:11,259 from the suburbs, when in fourth grade, 1497 01:06:11,259 --> 01:06:13,928 I knew... Like, that coming basketball season 1498 01:06:13,928 --> 01:06:15,722 I got Air Jordan 1s. 1499 01:06:15,722 --> 01:06:18,141 With the AJ1, it's a shoe that you can wear, 1500 01:06:18,141 --> 01:06:19,934 obviously, on a court, and off the floor. 1501 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,646 And it can go play on both sides of the field. 1502 01:06:23,646 --> 01:06:26,065 And as fashion has evolved, and... 1503 01:06:26,065 --> 01:06:27,984 people paid more attention to it, 1504 01:06:27,984 --> 01:06:30,361 and now people see the greatness of the shoe, 1505 01:06:30,361 --> 01:06:32,739 and why it was so important, especially back in the day. 1506 01:06:33,990 --> 01:06:36,701 I think when you're looking good and feeling good, 1507 01:06:36,701 --> 01:06:38,620 then everything else is good, you know? 1508 01:06:39,454 --> 01:06:41,289 [Sal, everyone was like, 1509 01:06:41,873 --> 01:06:44,042 "Shit, I wanna look like that." 1510 01:06:44,375 --> 01:06:46,836 I wanna dress like those dudes. 1511 01:06:46,836 --> 01:06:50,089 that's true, artists like Run-DMC to Eazy-E, 1512 01:06:50,089 --> 01:06:52,634 you'd have to have the flyest hat and jacket, 1513 01:06:52,634 --> 01:06:54,469 and it goes down to the feet. 1514 01:06:54,469 --> 01:06:57,180 It became kind of the badge of honor, 1515 01:06:57,180 --> 01:06:59,807 that if you wore that, you had the stature 1516 01:06:59,807 --> 01:07:01,142 that you wanted, 1517 01:07:01,142 --> 01:07:02,977 and you had a style swagger 1518 01:07:02,977 --> 01:07:04,604 that the guys around you didn't have. 1519 01:07:05,355 --> 01:07:07,941 Fashion is fascinating because if you follow it, 1520 01:07:07,941 --> 01:07:11,319 it tells a bigger anthropological story. 1521 01:07:11,319 --> 01:07:13,696 I think people assume it's a commodity. 1522 01:07:13,696 --> 01:07:16,282 But no, the hood just made it, you know, 1523 01:07:16,282 --> 01:07:18,284 a part of the culture. It made it popular. 1524 01:07:18,284 --> 01:07:20,453 Like, people looked at the hood to see what to do 1525 01:07:20,453 --> 01:07:22,038 and what to wear and what to say 1526 01:07:22,038 --> 01:07:25,041 -and how to dress. -And it changed the perspective 1527 01:07:25,041 --> 01:07:28,336 on how you could wear clothes. 1528 01:07:31,714 --> 01:07:33,132 You know, back in the day, 1529 01:07:33,132 --> 01:07:36,219 the way that your apparel would lay on the footwear, 1530 01:07:36,219 --> 01:07:39,305 like, didn't really lend itself to amplifying 1531 01:07:39,305 --> 01:07:41,474 or highlighting the footwear that you were wearing 1532 01:07:41,474 --> 01:07:42,558 at the time. 1533 01:07:42,558 --> 01:07:44,978 And as things started to taper down, 1534 01:07:44,978 --> 01:07:47,188 and pants got tighter, 1535 01:07:47,188 --> 01:07:49,774 because people wanted to show off the footwear... 1536 01:07:52,026 --> 01:07:53,778 The shoes really changed 1537 01:07:53,778 --> 01:07:58,449 the way I wanted to wear clothes and my appearance, you know, 1538 01:07:58,449 --> 01:08:01,119 It kinda just started from the ground up with the shoes. 1539 01:08:01,828 --> 01:08:03,288 But there was never, 1540 01:08:03,288 --> 01:08:06,541 besides that kind of anti-fashion Converse sneaker, 1541 01:08:06,541 --> 01:08:08,418 there was never really another sneaker 1542 01:08:08,418 --> 01:08:12,380 that truly became a significant part of the fashion world, 1543 01:08:12,380 --> 01:08:13,798 and this became... 1544 01:08:14,215 --> 01:08:15,091 pure fashion. 1545 01:08:17,552 --> 01:08:19,053 What we choose to wear 1546 01:08:19,053 --> 01:08:23,266 says a lot about how we want to be perceived in society. 1547 01:08:23,266 --> 01:08:25,101 So, by wearing a certain pair of sneakers, 1548 01:08:25,101 --> 01:08:26,644 or a certain colorway, 1549 01:08:27,061 --> 01:08:29,856 it's a sort of non-verbal communication 1550 01:08:29,856 --> 01:08:34,277 to other people about how we want them to perceive us. 1551 01:08:34,277 --> 01:08:37,113 You can wear the Jordan 1 with a pair of denim, 1552 01:08:37,113 --> 01:08:39,699 you can wear 'em with shorts, you can wear 'em with sweats, 1553 01:08:39,699 --> 01:08:41,909 you can wear 'em on the basketball court, 1554 01:08:41,909 --> 01:08:45,079 you can get the all-black pair and wear 'em out at night, 1555 01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:46,998 with the all-white pair and wear 'em to the beach. 1556 01:08:46,998 --> 01:08:49,667 You can wear the red or the royals, 1557 01:08:49,667 --> 01:08:51,794 and that's your flex for the outfit. 1558 01:08:52,628 --> 01:08:54,922 It's just one of those shoes you can do anything in. 1559 01:09:01,846 --> 01:09:05,141 That's the silhouette for a lot of shoes that are out right now. 1560 01:09:05,141 --> 01:09:06,601 That's the beginning... 1561 01:09:07,226 --> 01:09:08,394 of the beginning. 1562 01:09:10,897 --> 01:09:13,149 It's just this incredible moment 1563 01:09:13,149 --> 01:09:14,275 in sneaker culture. 1564 01:09:15,651 --> 01:09:17,403 Sneakers hadn't come out in that kind of serial way, 1565 01:09:17,403 --> 01:09:20,823 and so, I think it also helped to till the ground 1566 01:09:20,823 --> 01:09:22,658 for this idea of collecting. 1567 01:09:22,658 --> 01:09:26,079 You didn't chase anybody else's sneakers, 1568 01:09:26,746 --> 01:09:29,082 but then these AJs come. 1569 01:09:29,749 --> 01:09:31,209 Now you gotta have every pair. 1570 01:09:31,209 --> 01:09:33,920 ♪ One, ain’t no missing On my mission ♪ 1571 01:09:34,379 --> 01:09:37,090 ♪ Oh, my, did my shit With no permission ♪ 1572 01:09:38,007 --> 01:09:41,219 ♪ No, I hate to wait Uh, uh, take your place ♪ 1573 01:09:41,219 --> 01:09:42,845 ♪ Uh, uh, make a break ♪ 1574 01:09:42,845 --> 01:09:44,722 ♪ Uh, uh, made a play ♪ 1575 01:09:44,722 --> 01:09:45,890 ♪ Woo, put ’em high ♪ 1576 01:09:45,890 --> 01:09:47,642 ♪ I can fly and feel the sky ♪ 1577 01:09:47,642 --> 01:09:49,394 ♪ Ain’t no stopping Feel the drive ♪ 1578 01:09:49,394 --> 01:09:51,145 ♪ In my way You feel the fight ♪ 1579 01:09:51,145 --> 01:09:53,648 ♪ From the side Yo, they said we was a vibe ♪ 1580 01:09:53,648 --> 01:09:55,650 ♪ No, we tell ’em At the side, no ♪ 1581 01:09:55,650 --> 01:09:57,944 ♪ Let me see you put Your fingers high ♪ 1582 01:09:57,944 --> 01:09:59,695 ♪ One time ’cause we made it ♪ 1583 01:09:59,695 --> 01:10:01,447 ♪ One time for the greatest ♪ 1584 01:10:01,447 --> 01:10:02,782 ♪ One time for the haters ♪ 1585 01:10:02,782 --> 01:10:04,742 ♪ Gon’ put your fingers high ♪ 1586 01:10:04,742 --> 01:10:05,785 ♪ One time ♪ 1587 01:10:07,036 --> 01:10:08,287 -Am I making myself clear? -Uh-uh. 1588 01:10:08,287 --> 01:10:10,540 The new Air Jordans from Nike are here. 1589 01:10:10,790 --> 01:10:13,876 If you wanna look at what would be called 1590 01:10:13,876 --> 01:10:16,462 the sneaker culture and say what was the thing 1591 01:10:16,462 --> 01:10:18,089 that changed everything, 1592 01:10:18,339 --> 01:10:21,092 it's when Spike Lee made the shoe a character. 1593 01:10:21,092 --> 01:10:23,428 Mars Blackmon chillin', chillin', chillin' 1594 01:10:23,428 --> 01:10:25,513 with Air Jordan, Air Jordan, Air Jordan, 1595 01:10:25,513 --> 01:10:28,850 who's been serving them hard jams, jams, jams all day. 1596 01:10:28,850 --> 01:10:30,768 Spike's the reason I'm doing what I'm doing. 1597 01:10:30,768 --> 01:10:33,146 Spike was the first black dude that was like, 1598 01:10:33,146 --> 01:10:37,024 "Oh, you can tell black stories, but they can speak to everybody, 1599 01:10:37,024 --> 01:10:39,902 and if it's real and honest, people will sort of get it," 1600 01:10:39,902 --> 01:10:42,447 because Spike represented the same spirit 1601 01:10:42,447 --> 01:10:43,823 that the Jordan 1 did. 1602 01:10:44,157 --> 01:10:45,700 Proprietary, rebellious, 1603 01:10:45,700 --> 01:10:48,119 could not be held back, you know what I'm saying? The-- 1604 01:10:48,119 --> 01:10:49,996 You knew he was gonna try to be the best. 1605 01:10:50,413 --> 01:10:52,206 "Money, is it the shoes?" 1606 01:10:52,206 --> 01:10:54,000 Sorry. That's it. 1607 01:10:54,333 --> 01:10:55,501 "It's gotta be the shoe." 1608 01:10:55,501 --> 01:10:56,669 "It's gotta be the shoes." 1609 01:10:56,669 --> 01:10:58,129 Like, yeah, motherfucker, it is the shoes! 1610 01:10:58,129 --> 01:10:59,714 Money's gotta be the shoes! 1611 01:10:59,714 --> 01:11:01,382 Shoes! Shoes! Shoes! Shoes! 1612 01:11:01,382 --> 01:11:03,593 -You sure it's not the shoes? -I'm sure, Mars. 1613 01:11:03,593 --> 01:11:05,553 The commercials in and of themselves 1614 01:11:05,553 --> 01:11:08,014 were events. It was like someone droppin' a mixtape, 1615 01:11:08,014 --> 01:11:09,599 or an album or a movie. 1616 01:11:09,599 --> 01:11:12,101 Finding out these cool ways to, like... 1617 01:11:12,101 --> 01:11:14,520 inject some social commentary, 1618 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,647 none of that existed before. 1619 01:11:17,023 --> 01:11:19,066 And there was a sense that... 1620 01:11:19,066 --> 01:11:21,068 what happened off the court 1621 01:11:21,068 --> 01:11:22,945 affected what happened on the court. 1622 01:11:22,945 --> 01:11:24,739 It was transcending basketball. 1623 01:11:28,618 --> 01:11:31,037 It was one of the very first basketball shoes 1624 01:11:31,037 --> 01:11:33,039 that somehow jumped out of basketball. 1625 01:11:33,789 --> 01:11:38,294 And it got blended with modern youth culture, 1626 01:11:38,294 --> 01:11:41,589 but also, it did jump into skateboarding. 1627 01:11:41,589 --> 01:11:42,798 ♪ R ♪ 1628 01:11:42,798 --> 01:11:43,966 ♪ E ♪ 1629 01:11:43,966 --> 01:11:45,301 ♪ S ♪ 1630 01:11:45,301 --> 01:11:47,011 ♪ I-S-T, yeah! ♪ 1631 01:11:47,303 --> 01:11:48,346 ♪ R ♪ 1632 01:11:48,346 --> 01:11:49,430 ♪ E ♪ 1633 01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:50,723 We started when we were kids 1634 01:11:50,723 --> 01:11:53,017 and we cared only about skateboarders, 1635 01:11:53,017 --> 01:11:55,228 and that's it. Everything else was terrible. 1636 01:11:56,938 --> 01:11:58,856 The industry was pretty desolate, 1637 01:11:58,856 --> 01:12:01,067 and Vans stopped sponsoring all the skateboarders. 1638 01:12:03,152 --> 01:12:05,821 So, all the kids that were sponsored by Vans 1639 01:12:05,821 --> 01:12:07,073 went looking for shoes. 1640 01:12:11,536 --> 01:12:13,412 When it came to make Animal Chin, 1641 01:12:13,412 --> 01:12:15,206 we kind of altered them in a way. 1642 01:12:15,665 --> 01:12:17,959 Like, I would always wear mismatched pairs. 1643 01:12:18,334 --> 01:12:20,086 A couple of friends would always paint 'em. 1644 01:12:20,086 --> 01:12:21,879 We wanted to modify this thing 1645 01:12:21,879 --> 01:12:23,631 and say it wasn't a basketball thing, 1646 01:12:23,631 --> 01:12:24,799 it's a skateboard thing. 1647 01:12:26,509 --> 01:12:29,053 I remember tying in 1648 01:12:29,053 --> 01:12:31,138 the Jordan 1 on the skateboarders, 1649 01:12:31,556 --> 01:12:34,475 and a Jordan 1 on a hip-hop kid. 1650 01:12:34,475 --> 01:12:36,811 So here is this other... 1651 01:12:37,353 --> 01:12:39,272 up-and-becoming entity 1652 01:12:39,730 --> 01:12:42,275 that spawns corporate America to say, "Hey, 1653 01:12:42,275 --> 01:12:44,735 we gonna do this thing our way." 1654 01:12:44,735 --> 01:12:46,696 And their shoe of choice became... 1655 01:12:47,613 --> 01:12:49,115 the Jordan 1. 1656 01:12:55,329 --> 01:12:58,124 I've met all the kids that grew up on us 1657 01:12:58,124 --> 01:13:00,251 wearing them, that that's their world. 1658 01:13:00,543 --> 01:13:01,836 ♪ R ♪ 1659 01:13:01,836 --> 01:13:02,712 ♪ E ♪ 1660 01:13:03,129 --> 01:13:04,130 ♪ S ♪ 1661 01:13:04,672 --> 01:13:06,132 ♪ I-S-T, yeah! ♪ 1662 01:13:06,132 --> 01:13:07,174 ♪ R ♪ 1663 01:13:08,801 --> 01:13:10,136 We wanted to be Jordan... 1664 01:13:10,553 --> 01:13:11,470 in skateboarding. 1665 01:13:12,054 --> 01:13:13,306 We truly did. 1666 01:13:15,433 --> 01:13:17,810 It was sports tied in with skate, 1667 01:13:17,810 --> 01:13:20,396 tied in with high fashion, and... 1668 01:13:20,396 --> 01:13:22,898 Just put it in a blender, 1669 01:13:22,898 --> 01:13:26,736 and that's kinda how you created, you know, 1670 01:13:26,736 --> 01:13:27,612 what you see today. 1671 01:13:27,945 --> 01:13:29,405 Now it's just culture. 1672 01:13:29,405 --> 01:13:31,907 It's basketball and music, and... 1673 01:13:31,907 --> 01:13:33,743 you know, movies and television. 1674 01:13:34,035 --> 01:13:36,537 It culminated with both, you know, my-- 1675 01:13:36,537 --> 01:13:38,331 the way that I play the game of basketball 1676 01:13:38,331 --> 01:13:39,624 and this whole... 1677 01:13:41,125 --> 01:13:42,835 style thing of what was being established with the shoe. 1678 01:13:44,629 --> 01:13:47,381 And almost invariably, you could just see this 1679 01:13:47,381 --> 01:13:49,342 sort of tidal wave of acceptance 1680 01:13:49,759 --> 01:13:52,094 sort of build, and just boom, 1681 01:13:52,094 --> 01:13:54,221 and then everybody wants the shoe. 1682 01:13:56,766 --> 01:13:59,435 ♪ Get, get, get loud for me ♪ 1683 01:14:00,478 --> 01:14:02,146 It's hip-hop, it's gospel. 1684 01:14:02,146 --> 01:14:04,440 -It's surf culture. -It's rock and roll. 1685 01:14:04,440 --> 01:14:06,275 on GQ, it's on Esquire. 1686 01:14:06,275 --> 01:14:08,444 It's high fashion... 1687 01:14:08,694 --> 01:14:11,530 This deal reinvigorates people. 1688 01:14:11,530 --> 01:14:12,615 They're works of art. 1689 01:14:12,615 --> 01:14:14,492 Gets people's hearts throbbin'. 1690 01:14:14,867 --> 01:14:15,868 ♪ Heart of a lion ♪ 1691 01:14:17,286 --> 01:14:18,204 ♪ Fire inside me Blaze like a siren ♪ 1692 01:14:18,788 --> 01:14:20,039 ♪ Why would you try it? ♪ 1693 01:14:20,039 --> 01:14:21,374 ♪ Wake up the beast... ♪ 1694 01:14:21,374 --> 01:14:23,209 You can see a skater in Jordans. 1695 01:14:23,209 --> 01:14:25,044 It's in Spanish, in Japanese, it... 1696 01:14:25,044 --> 01:14:27,421 -A nerdy kid in Jordans. -So it crosses races. 1697 01:14:29,715 --> 01:14:31,425 It's all one, it's all unity. 1698 01:14:31,425 --> 01:14:33,844 It was the role model for your kids. 1699 01:14:33,844 --> 01:14:35,513 It's... It's everything. 1700 01:14:35,513 --> 01:14:37,932 I mean, it's fucking powerful, man. 1701 01:14:45,481 --> 01:14:48,025 None of that happens without this guy. 1702 01:14:48,359 --> 01:14:50,152 None of that happens without this. 1703 01:14:50,736 --> 01:14:52,863 And this doesn't happen... 1704 01:14:53,239 --> 01:14:54,782 if Michael can't play. 1705 01:14:55,157 --> 01:14:57,535 After one season, Michael Jordan skyrocketed 1706 01:14:57,535 --> 01:14:59,578 to the most elite of the NBA. 1707 01:14:59,578 --> 01:15:01,205 But in his third game this season, 1708 01:15:01,205 --> 01:15:03,749 Air Jordan suffered the first injury of his career. 1709 01:15:07,503 --> 01:15:09,630 When he got hurt, when he broke his foot... 1710 01:15:10,506 --> 01:15:13,050 you know what, might as well sit the year out. 1711 01:15:14,051 --> 01:15:15,678 You know. You're not going anywhere. 1712 01:15:15,678 --> 01:15:18,055 We can't win a championship. Let's just sit it out. 1713 01:15:18,889 --> 01:15:20,307 They held their breathe at Nike. 1714 01:15:20,307 --> 01:15:21,767 They really did, that first year. 1715 01:15:21,767 --> 01:15:23,978 "What did we do? This guy's hurt." 1716 01:15:23,978 --> 01:15:26,188 And they're worried that maybe this investment's 1717 01:15:26,188 --> 01:15:27,565 gonna go into the toilet. 1718 01:15:27,565 --> 01:15:30,067 What if this guy has a chronic foot problem? 1719 01:15:30,568 --> 01:15:32,319 Boy, it's a different ball game. 1720 01:15:32,319 --> 01:15:34,113 Jordans were certainly popular, 1721 01:15:34,113 --> 01:15:35,865 but I think they were a little bit worried 1722 01:15:35,865 --> 01:15:37,908 that maybe the business was not going to be the same 1723 01:15:37,908 --> 01:15:40,244 -now that he wasn't playing. -Well, I remember 1724 01:15:40,244 --> 01:15:41,662 it wasn't a very happy day. 1725 01:15:42,037 --> 01:15:44,248 As soon as that happened, they sat on shelves. 1726 01:15:45,207 --> 01:15:46,876 You know what I mean? They sat on shelves. 1727 01:15:46,876 --> 01:15:49,545 When you have to overcome something like that, 1728 01:15:49,545 --> 01:15:52,006 there is always a shred of doubt. 1729 01:15:52,923 --> 01:15:54,717 "Is it gonna be okay? 1730 01:15:54,717 --> 01:15:56,135 Is it gonna hold up?" 1731 01:15:56,719 --> 01:15:57,887 And everything... 1732 01:15:59,013 --> 01:16:00,389 that comes in your path... 1733 01:16:00,931 --> 01:16:02,266 your triumphs... 1734 01:16:03,809 --> 01:16:05,186 or your lows, when you're-- Especially when you're young, 1735 01:16:05,186 --> 01:16:07,146 those-- those-- those-- 1736 01:16:07,146 --> 01:16:09,064 Those young ages, that's when you're impacted. 1737 01:16:09,648 --> 01:16:11,233 He just couldn't be amazing. 1738 01:16:11,233 --> 01:16:13,027 And everything just couldn't be great. 1739 01:16:13,402 --> 01:16:14,862 Not in America. 1740 01:16:15,362 --> 01:16:17,114 Something has to be wrong. 1741 01:16:25,748 --> 01:16:28,125 In New York, people are killing each other over shoes. 1742 01:16:28,667 --> 01:16:31,462 You know, you got a kid who would kill a little kid 1743 01:16:31,462 --> 01:16:33,881 for a shoe that's two sizes too small for him, 1744 01:16:33,881 --> 01:16:35,257 'cause he needs these shoes. 1745 01:16:35,508 --> 01:16:37,176 Kids are literally... 1746 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:42,056 snatching the shoes off of other kids' feet. 1747 01:16:42,598 --> 01:16:44,099 It literally was like, 1748 01:16:44,099 --> 01:16:46,685 "I might fucking have to end someone's life... 1749 01:16:47,812 --> 01:16:51,565 so I can get those, for what that status, 1750 01:16:51,565 --> 01:16:54,193 what that power is going to give me." 1751 01:16:54,193 --> 01:16:56,362 That's how crazy it got! 1752 01:16:57,154 --> 01:16:58,823 You know, if you look at that 1753 01:16:58,823 --> 01:17:00,658 Sports Illustrated cover with the Air Jordan V on it, 1754 01:17:00,658 --> 01:17:02,326 that was kind of a turning point. 1755 01:17:02,326 --> 01:17:06,080 Once something hit a critical stage of consumption 1756 01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,332 to disenfranchise neighborhoods, 1757 01:17:08,332 --> 01:17:11,794 and the price market was sky-high 1758 01:17:11,794 --> 01:17:14,046 and it created issues for 1759 01:17:14,046 --> 01:17:16,006 young people who wanted these things, 1760 01:17:16,006 --> 01:17:17,758 but families that couldn't afford it, 1761 01:17:17,758 --> 01:17:21,470 that's when it got into the political ball park. 1762 01:17:21,470 --> 01:17:23,264 We're playing basketball, 1763 01:17:23,889 --> 01:17:25,766 stayed around at the park a little too long, 1764 01:17:25,766 --> 01:17:27,518 and I don't remember who got hit first. 1765 01:17:27,518 --> 01:17:29,812 It was me or him, but one of us got rocked. 1766 01:17:30,521 --> 01:17:32,565 And then, I just remember being on the ground 1767 01:17:32,565 --> 01:17:34,316 and these folks tugging up my feet. 1768 01:17:34,733 --> 01:17:37,653 I feared for, you know, my life, basically. 1769 01:17:37,653 --> 01:17:39,029 ...off of like... 1770 01:17:40,155 --> 01:17:42,157 some pieces of molded... 1771 01:17:42,491 --> 01:17:45,202 leather and plastic, and... 1772 01:17:45,202 --> 01:17:46,662 assembled by... 1773 01:17:48,664 --> 01:17:50,416 young people in Asia. 1774 01:17:52,168 --> 01:17:53,085 That's... 1775 01:17:54,086 --> 01:17:55,629 That's wild. 1776 01:17:55,629 --> 01:17:57,840 Violence over a pair of sneakers. 1777 01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,384 These Air Jordans attract big crowds, 1778 01:18:00,384 --> 01:18:02,386 and today, things took a dangerous turn. 1779 01:18:02,386 --> 01:18:03,679 A local teenager killed 1780 01:18:03,679 --> 01:18:05,055 over a pair of shoes and... 1781 01:18:05,306 --> 01:18:07,433 Right now, it's a public safety issue 1782 01:18:07,433 --> 01:18:09,226 with children wearing those sneakers. 1783 01:18:09,226 --> 01:18:12,354 Here's what the problem was about those stories, 1784 01:18:12,354 --> 01:18:14,857 is that if you were around and you understood, 1785 01:18:14,857 --> 01:18:17,067 if you were from the hood, you were like, "Well, 1786 01:18:17,067 --> 01:18:19,737 it ain't Jordans, you get robbed and killed for anything now." 1787 01:18:20,279 --> 01:18:22,197 You get robbed and killed for a sheepskin coat. 1788 01:18:22,197 --> 01:18:23,991 You might've got your Jordans taken 1789 01:18:23,991 --> 01:18:25,868 while they were taking the sheepskin coat. 1790 01:18:25,868 --> 01:18:27,536 Before, when people were getting 1791 01:18:27,536 --> 01:18:30,080 shot and stabbed and killed for shell toes, 1792 01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:31,081 no conversations. 1793 01:18:32,374 --> 01:18:33,334 Shot and stabbed, and killed for Airforce 1s, 1794 01:18:33,334 --> 01:18:34,710 no conversations. 1795 01:18:34,710 --> 01:18:37,004 Anything that they were getting shot and killed for 1796 01:18:37,004 --> 01:18:39,590 at that precise moment, no conversations. 1797 01:18:39,590 --> 01:18:41,634 He happens to be Michael Jordan, 1798 01:18:41,634 --> 01:18:43,761 number one in the universe, 1799 01:18:44,094 --> 01:18:45,137 the unicorn. 1800 01:18:46,347 --> 01:18:47,473 Oh, now you're getting killed for Jordans. 1801 01:18:47,473 --> 01:18:48,766 No, stupid! 1802 01:18:48,766 --> 01:18:50,643 You're getting killed for sneakers! 1803 01:18:50,643 --> 01:18:52,686 That happened all the time. 1804 01:18:53,145 --> 01:18:55,856 So, to me, the stories were bullshit. 1805 01:18:59,526 --> 01:19:02,446 Remove shoes or sneakers away from it, it's just 1806 01:19:02,446 --> 01:19:04,949 a thing that means something to someone. 1807 01:19:04,949 --> 01:19:08,410 It may sound silly to someone, but sometimes, all you had 1808 01:19:08,410 --> 01:19:10,537 was these shoes, and you give them to someone, 1809 01:19:10,537 --> 01:19:12,122 and that means a lot. 1810 01:19:12,623 --> 01:19:15,918 If a kid is shot for having Jordan shoes, 1811 01:19:15,918 --> 01:19:17,795 I got a feeling there's something more going on 1812 01:19:17,795 --> 01:19:18,671 than the shoes. 1813 01:19:20,005 --> 01:19:22,174 There's always the other end of the coin, 1814 01:19:22,174 --> 01:19:23,634 where, um... 1815 01:19:23,926 --> 01:19:25,511 as much confidence 1816 01:19:25,511 --> 01:19:28,013 as a new pair of shoes has given me, 1817 01:19:28,013 --> 01:19:30,975 there's a kid who can't have them. 1818 01:19:30,975 --> 01:19:33,268 There's someone that actually feels hurt by it, 1819 01:19:33,268 --> 01:19:35,479 and I've been on both ends of that. 1820 01:19:37,773 --> 01:19:41,026 We're all striving for the same shit, you know. 1821 01:19:41,026 --> 01:19:44,738 We all want to better our station in life. 1822 01:19:44,738 --> 01:19:46,699 We all want to give our children 1823 01:19:46,699 --> 01:19:49,076 -more than what we had. -And so even 1824 01:19:49,451 --> 01:19:51,078 when you're able to make an impact, 1825 01:19:51,078 --> 01:19:53,872 there's generations that follow that need updating, 1826 01:19:53,872 --> 01:19:55,749 they need maintenance to understand 1827 01:19:56,083 --> 01:19:58,836 the severity of the situation that they're in. 1828 01:19:59,503 --> 01:20:01,338 Revolution started from the bottom, 1829 01:20:01,839 --> 01:20:03,382 you know, like, throughout history, 1830 01:20:03,382 --> 01:20:04,633 especially American history. 1831 01:20:04,633 --> 01:20:06,593 We saw this emergence of confidence, 1832 01:20:06,593 --> 01:20:08,387 not only from sports, but from culture. 1833 01:20:09,138 --> 01:20:10,806 You had the growth of hip-hop, 1834 01:20:10,806 --> 01:20:13,100 the growth of, you know, street art, 1835 01:20:13,100 --> 01:20:15,436 the growth of this awareness itself 1836 01:20:15,436 --> 01:20:17,688 that was happenin' in the collective conscious of youth, 1837 01:20:17,688 --> 01:20:20,232 and then you have Michael that encapsulated it all. 1838 01:20:20,232 --> 01:20:22,735 'Cause he looked like the unlikely candidate 1839 01:20:22,735 --> 01:20:23,986 to start a revolution, 1840 01:20:25,487 --> 01:20:26,572 which is always the likely candidate to start a revolution. 1841 01:20:27,823 --> 01:20:30,117 Everybody doesn't have to be out front, 1842 01:20:30,909 --> 01:20:33,078 yelling, screaming, fist up... 1843 01:20:33,620 --> 01:20:34,747 to be down. 1844 01:20:34,747 --> 01:20:35,956 A lot of people... 1845 01:20:36,915 --> 01:20:38,417 choose a different route. 1846 01:20:38,417 --> 01:20:41,462 A collective web of contributors 1847 01:20:42,046 --> 01:20:43,797 from various aspects 1848 01:20:43,797 --> 01:20:46,300 rose like a phoenix out of the ashes. 1849 01:20:46,300 --> 01:20:48,719 That gave a voice to the voiceless. 1850 01:20:48,719 --> 01:20:50,637 And in giving a voice to the voiceless, 1851 01:20:50,637 --> 01:20:52,639 then, you know, there's strength in numbers, 1852 01:20:52,639 --> 01:20:54,349 and then people was like, "Well, oh, shit, 1853 01:20:54,349 --> 01:20:56,185 if they're saying it, I can say it." 1854 01:20:56,185 --> 01:20:58,270 You know, "If they're not afraid to come out 1855 01:20:58,270 --> 01:21:00,397 and talk about this thing, 1856 01:21:00,397 --> 01:21:01,940 you know, why should I be?" 1857 01:21:02,441 --> 01:21:05,277 The voices get louder. The marches get bigger. 1858 01:21:05,986 --> 01:21:07,988 You know, and, uh... 1859 01:21:07,988 --> 01:21:11,742 And the movement takes place, and then there's a shift. 1860 01:21:12,993 --> 01:21:15,746 I wanna make my own mark, I wanna do my own thing. 1861 01:21:15,746 --> 01:21:18,957 Not just for the fact of being anti-establishment, 1862 01:21:18,957 --> 01:21:20,125 or counter-culture. 1863 01:21:20,125 --> 01:21:21,835 That's one thing, but it's really about 1864 01:21:21,835 --> 01:21:24,463 thinking differently and being able to, 1865 01:21:24,463 --> 01:21:27,591 you know, follow your own path, create your own spirit. 1866 01:21:27,591 --> 01:21:29,176 I think some things that have happened 1867 01:21:29,176 --> 01:21:32,596 in the past couple of years, have sort of shown us ourselves, 1868 01:21:32,596 --> 01:21:34,264 whether we like the refection or not. 1869 01:21:34,765 --> 01:21:36,809 And it's sort of made people 1870 01:21:37,142 --> 01:21:40,729 go deep within to ask themselves, 1871 01:21:40,729 --> 01:21:42,981 "What kind of world do I wanna be a part of? 1872 01:21:42,981 --> 01:21:45,651 What kind of world do I wanna show my children?" 1873 01:21:45,651 --> 01:21:47,694 There has to be a level of unification 1874 01:21:47,694 --> 01:21:50,197 amongst people. Athletes alike, 1875 01:21:50,197 --> 01:21:52,157 artists alike, entertainers alike, 1876 01:21:52,157 --> 01:21:54,326 politicians alike. There has to be some type of... 1877 01:21:54,785 --> 01:21:55,744 stance. 1878 01:22:00,290 --> 01:22:03,001 Yes, it was basketball, 1879 01:22:03,460 --> 01:22:06,672 but it also was a reality 1880 01:22:07,005 --> 01:22:12,010 of unlocking something that was deep inside. 1881 01:22:13,470 --> 01:22:16,014 And that was kind of the spirit of the 1. 1882 01:22:16,431 --> 01:22:17,975 He said, "Don't you believe? 1883 01:22:17,975 --> 01:22:20,394 Don't you believe in me?" Yeah. 1884 01:22:20,394 --> 01:22:22,104 "You know what? Yeah. 1885 01:22:22,104 --> 01:22:23,981 I believe in you. Go for it." 1886 01:22:24,231 --> 01:22:26,733 When Michael faces the Boston Celtics, 1887 01:22:26,733 --> 01:22:29,653 you didn't think all those people were looking at his feet 1888 01:22:29,653 --> 01:22:30,696 at that time? 1889 01:22:32,239 --> 01:22:34,491 Almost the universe painting this moment in time. 1890 01:22:35,242 --> 01:22:37,870 With these magical shoes on, 1891 01:22:37,870 --> 01:22:39,371 we can do things. 1892 01:22:39,371 --> 01:22:41,874 And when he actually has that move at the Boston Garden, 1893 01:22:41,874 --> 01:22:44,543 when he shuffles, people are looking at his feet. 1894 01:22:44,543 --> 01:22:46,211 All eyes on Jordan. 1895 01:22:46,211 --> 01:22:48,964 Sixty-three points, and you're looking at an all-time record. 1896 01:22:48,964 --> 01:22:50,716 Oh, boy. Michael Jordan... 1897 01:22:50,716 --> 01:22:53,177 The fact that Michael Jordan is just badass 1898 01:22:53,177 --> 01:22:57,139 at that right time, the planets lined up. Boom. 1899 01:22:57,139 --> 01:22:59,099 Mission control, ready for launch. 1900 01:22:59,099 --> 01:23:00,976 You can hear his engine revving now... 1901 01:23:00,976 --> 01:23:03,770 Air Jordan, ready to take off. 1902 01:23:13,447 --> 01:23:15,449 Look at the air, look at the hang time, 1903 01:23:15,449 --> 01:23:16,783 look at the flying motion. 1904 01:23:18,327 --> 01:23:19,995 That shit was just powerful. 1905 01:23:19,995 --> 01:23:21,747 Not just for sport... 1906 01:23:22,372 --> 01:23:23,790 but just, like, in life. 1907 01:23:30,005 --> 01:23:33,884 The same way it's hard to discriminate on someone 1908 01:23:33,884 --> 01:23:36,011 when you're listening to the same music, 1909 01:23:36,011 --> 01:23:37,930 it's even harder to discriminate on someone 1910 01:23:37,930 --> 01:23:39,514 when you're wearing the same sneakers. 1911 01:23:39,514 --> 01:23:40,557 It's an instant connection. 1912 01:23:41,850 --> 01:23:43,602 You know, yes, we're very different. 1913 01:23:43,602 --> 01:23:45,437 Yes, you know, we speak different languages, 1914 01:23:45,437 --> 01:23:47,481 and we see the world differently, but the one thing 1915 01:23:47,481 --> 01:23:49,441 that unified us, and brought us together, was... 1916 01:23:49,441 --> 01:23:50,651 was the AJ 1. 1917 01:23:51,985 --> 01:23:54,196 The guy's been retired for, what, 15 years? 1918 01:23:54,196 --> 01:23:56,490 Something like that? Twenty? And they're still selling 1919 01:23:56,490 --> 01:23:59,493 these shoes like it was 1985, like he was still playing. 1920 01:24:00,035 --> 01:24:03,205 It's gotten to the point now where he just so happened 1921 01:24:03,205 --> 01:24:04,748 to have played basketball 1922 01:24:05,249 --> 01:24:07,793 and is the greatest player that ever lived. 1923 01:24:09,127 --> 01:24:11,630 But he's a global icon... 1924 01:24:12,589 --> 01:24:14,216 because of the damn shoes. 1925 01:24:14,758 --> 01:24:17,844 I think we personally immortalize it. 1926 01:24:17,844 --> 01:24:19,972 To see where it's at right now, and to see... 1927 01:24:20,222 --> 01:24:22,099 that this younger generation 1928 01:24:22,099 --> 01:24:24,810 understands that and is educated about that, 1929 01:24:25,143 --> 01:24:28,188 -that means a lot. -Something that hits that big 1930 01:24:28,188 --> 01:24:30,899 or that good at one time lives forever. 1931 01:24:30,899 --> 01:24:33,610 I think it's the same thing that, uh, allows you 1932 01:24:33,610 --> 01:24:36,029 to still call Elvis "The King". 1933 01:24:36,029 --> 01:24:39,074 It's undeniable greatness, 1934 01:24:39,074 --> 01:24:41,201 I think, that kinda transcends time. 1935 01:24:41,201 --> 01:24:44,329 Thirty years later, we actually changed the rule 1936 01:24:44,329 --> 01:24:45,914 that said you can in fact do 1937 01:24:45,914 --> 01:24:47,833 what Michael wanted to do in 1984. 1938 01:24:47,833 --> 01:24:50,836 You know, it changed the world. It changed the world. 1939 01:24:55,340 --> 01:24:57,676 For me, what it represents was the beginning 1940 01:24:57,676 --> 01:24:59,511 of a possibility. 1941 01:24:59,845 --> 01:25:01,680 You know, a possibility to say, 1942 01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:02,973 "You could be an athlete, 1943 01:25:02,973 --> 01:25:04,891 you could be a rapper, you could be an artist, 1944 01:25:04,891 --> 01:25:07,185 you could be whatever you want, but at the end of the day, 1945 01:25:07,185 --> 01:25:09,187 to be your own man is the most important piece." 1946 01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:11,273 You know, we can't determine 1947 01:25:11,273 --> 01:25:12,482 when you're born. 1948 01:25:12,941 --> 01:25:14,318 We can't determine... 1949 01:25:15,777 --> 01:25:17,446 the world you're born into. 1950 01:25:18,322 --> 01:25:21,366 So all that shit came together at the same time. 1951 01:25:21,366 --> 01:25:23,035 You're not buying the stitches, 1952 01:25:23,035 --> 01:25:24,870 or the leather, or the sole, 1953 01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:27,164 you're actually buying what it symbolizes. 1954 01:25:27,164 --> 01:25:28,957 And I think that's the magic, 1955 01:25:28,957 --> 01:25:31,543 and I think that's what's so incredibly special about it. 1956 01:25:31,543 --> 01:25:34,880 And I don't think we will see that again in our lifetime. 1957 01:25:37,049 --> 01:25:40,886 For me, it represents who I am and the way I live my life, 1958 01:25:40,886 --> 01:25:44,097 the kind of things that I'm into, like, uh... 1959 01:25:44,097 --> 01:25:45,807 It's like the flag on my hat. 1960 01:25:45,807 --> 01:25:47,351 It represented my youth, 1961 01:25:47,351 --> 01:25:49,144 it's who I was, who I wanted to be, like... 1962 01:25:49,144 --> 01:25:50,645 And I want to be the best. 1963 01:25:50,645 --> 01:25:53,732 Or at least trying to walk amongst the best in what I do. 1964 01:25:54,733 --> 01:25:57,527 No boundaries, no limits, 1965 01:25:57,527 --> 01:26:01,615 a sense that you can go out and accomplish things 1966 01:26:01,615 --> 01:26:04,368 beyond what you thought was possible. 1967 01:26:04,368 --> 01:26:08,080 It's amazing that it can all be embodied in a shoe. 1968 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:09,915 Before, black people... 1969 01:26:10,707 --> 01:26:11,750 in this country... 1970 01:26:12,793 --> 01:26:15,587 We were constantly told that 1971 01:26:16,004 --> 01:26:18,423 we were less than, or we didn't matter. 1972 01:26:18,423 --> 01:26:22,302 And I think there's a direct correlation between that 1973 01:26:22,302 --> 01:26:23,553 and a little black boy 1974 01:26:24,179 --> 01:26:28,183 wanting a coveted pair of sneakers. 1975 01:26:29,059 --> 01:26:31,728 Because when he puts them on, 1976 01:26:32,312 --> 01:26:34,064 for a second, he forgets that... 1977 01:26:34,815 --> 01:26:37,150 the world doesn't value his life. 1978 01:26:37,567 --> 01:26:39,319 For a second, he feels... 1979 01:26:40,862 --> 01:26:41,988 more than. 1980 01:26:42,614 --> 01:26:44,116 He feels significant. 1981 01:26:44,116 --> 01:26:45,325 He feels free. 1982 01:26:47,577 --> 01:26:49,704 People really thought, "Wow, I can do anything." 1983 01:26:50,163 --> 01:26:52,749 They were wide open to... 1984 01:26:53,667 --> 01:26:55,919 pursue these crazy dreams. 1985 01:26:56,461 --> 01:26:59,673 When you think about this, sitting with a child who... 1986 01:26:59,673 --> 01:27:01,591 will talk about going through chemotherapy 1987 01:27:01,591 --> 01:27:03,427 and the only way he gets through it, 1988 01:27:03,427 --> 01:27:05,303 is either, you know, reading Michael's books, 1989 01:27:05,303 --> 01:27:07,055 or wearing his jersey, 1990 01:27:07,055 --> 01:27:09,057 to act like he's got the strength. 1991 01:27:09,057 --> 01:27:12,602 And we got a letter from the Wish family that 1992 01:27:12,602 --> 01:27:15,188 this little boy had passed away, 1993 01:27:15,188 --> 01:27:17,441 but they buried him in Michael's jersey 1994 01:27:17,441 --> 01:27:18,400 and his shoes. 1995 01:27:19,651 --> 01:27:22,320 That says how beyond... This is not just a shoe. 1996 01:27:22,821 --> 01:27:25,073 This is something that is a symbol for a child, 1997 01:27:25,073 --> 01:27:27,284 who is fighting for his life, that gave him the courage 1998 01:27:27,534 --> 01:27:28,994 every day to keep fighting. 1999 01:27:30,454 --> 01:27:31,663 That's incredible. 2000 01:27:32,330 --> 01:27:34,458 The inspiration, and the hope, 2001 01:27:34,458 --> 01:27:36,501 and the passion, and the drive 2002 01:27:36,501 --> 01:27:39,963 that can be attributed to a shoe. 2003 01:27:41,548 --> 01:27:42,591 A shoe. 2004 01:27:43,341 --> 01:27:44,885 You know, it's fucking crazy. 2005 01:27:44,885 --> 01:27:47,387 To have, like, that little bit of 2006 01:27:47,387 --> 01:27:48,805 hope on your feet... 2007 01:27:48,805 --> 01:27:50,682 There's just a good vibe coming off of them, 2008 01:27:50,682 --> 01:27:53,643 and I-- and I hope anybody that wears them 2009 01:27:53,643 --> 01:27:55,353 are wearing them to 2010 01:27:55,353 --> 01:27:57,814 not fill a hole, but to just sort of like 2011 01:27:58,106 --> 01:28:00,317 accentuate the things about them that they, you know... 2012 01:28:00,317 --> 01:28:01,401 That maybe they love. 2013 01:28:02,736 --> 01:28:04,613 I think that kind of stuff is possible, you know. 2014 01:28:06,656 --> 01:28:07,949 It's hope. It's just hope. 2015 01:28:09,242 --> 01:28:12,996 For me, when I look at this and what it means, 2016 01:28:12,996 --> 01:28:16,500 it means that people have the ability to dream. 2017 01:28:16,500 --> 01:28:20,795 And if a spirit of that 1 can do that... 2018 01:28:22,297 --> 01:28:28,178 to one kid, one kid that. believes that they can change 2019 01:28:28,178 --> 01:28:29,471 the universe... 2020 01:28:30,514 --> 01:28:32,724 then I believe those are the things 2021 01:28:32,724 --> 01:28:34,309 that make life worth living. 2022 01:28:36,603 --> 01:28:38,813 I don't know if I'm answering your question or whatnot, 2023 01:28:38,813 --> 01:28:40,232 I'm just telling you how I feel, 2024 01:28:40,232 --> 01:28:43,151 and what the shoe means to me, and how it affects me. 2025 01:28:44,611 --> 01:28:46,738 Some crazy shit to say about a fucking shoe. 2026 01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:48,573 ♪ We did the impossible ♪ 2027 01:28:48,573 --> 01:28:50,408 ♪ Now we're unstoppable ♪ 2028 01:28:50,408 --> 01:28:52,786 ♪ This the night Every time, never quit ♪ 2029 01:28:53,203 --> 01:28:55,830 ♪ Dig deep Always fight, always win ♪ 2030 01:28:55,830 --> 01:28:58,500 ♪ Can't stop Never sleep, cause you know ♪ 2031 01:28:58,500 --> 01:29:01,836 ♪ We did the impossible Now we're unstoppable ♪ 2032 01:29:01,836 --> 01:29:04,589 ♪ This the night Every time, never quit ♪ 2033 01:29:04,589 --> 01:29:05,840 And that was it. 2034 01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,134 I wanted to cry, but I don't... 2035 01:29:08,552 --> 01:29:10,178 Well, it's tough, yeah. 2036 01:29:10,178 --> 01:29:11,763 ♪ We did the impossible ♪ 2037 01:29:11,763 --> 01:29:13,139 ♪ Now we're unstoppable ♪ 2038 01:29:13,139 --> 01:29:14,516 When I was playing Mars, 2039 01:29:14,516 --> 01:29:16,017 I mean, that's the first I ever acted. 2040 01:29:16,017 --> 01:29:17,519 So a lot of times, I couldn't remember 2041 01:29:17,519 --> 01:29:19,938 the next lines. Do you know? Do you know? Do you know? 2042 01:29:19,938 --> 01:29:21,022 Do you know?" 2043 01:29:21,022 --> 01:29:23,024 That's why Mars repeated stuff! 2044 01:29:23,441 --> 01:29:24,985 They say, "Rob," you know, 2045 01:29:24,985 --> 01:29:27,279 "I don't wanna ban them. My son thinks they're great. 2046 01:29:27,279 --> 01:29:28,446 Just send me a pair." 2047 01:29:29,948 --> 01:29:32,576 I once threatened Michael with going home to put them on. 2048 01:29:32,576 --> 01:29:34,244 And he said, "No, no, no, please, please," 2049 01:29:34,244 --> 01:29:35,662 I said, "Okay, fine." 2050 01:29:35,662 --> 01:29:38,248 I can't ollie. But I can stick out my tongue 2051 01:29:38,248 --> 01:29:39,416 and go "uhl"... 2052 01:29:40,292 --> 01:29:41,376 Is that a saying? 2053 01:29:41,668 --> 01:29:43,587 And that's Michael Jordan's fault. 2054 01:29:43,587 --> 01:29:44,838 Olivia doesn't mind them. 2055 01:29:44,838 --> 01:29:46,298 ♪ We did the impossible ♪ 2056 01:29:46,298 --> 01:29:48,133 ♪ Now we're unstoppable ♪ 2057 01:29:52,345 --> 01:29:53,680 David Stern. 2058 01:29:55,849 --> 01:29:57,601 AB mark. 2059 01:29:59,728 --> 01:30:02,564 ♪ This the night Every time, never quit ♪ 2060 01:30:02,564 --> 01:30:05,442 ♪ Dig deep Always fight, always win ♪ 2061 01:30:05,442 --> 01:30:07,777 ♪ Can't stop Never sleep, cause you know ♪ 2062 01:30:07,777 --> 01:30:11,281 ♪ We did the impossible Now we're unstoppable ♪ 2063 01:30:11,281 --> 01:30:14,159 ♪ This the night Every time, never quit ♪ 2064 01:30:14,159 --> 01:30:16,995 ♪ Dig deep Always fight, always win ♪ 2065 01:30:16,995 --> 01:30:19,456 ♪ Can't stop Never sleep, cause you know ♪ 2066 01:30:19,456 --> 01:30:23,001 ♪ We did the impossible Now we're unstoppable ♪ 2067 01:30:27,047 --> 01:30:28,798 ♪ We're unstoppable ♪ 2068 01:30:32,844 --> 01:30:34,429 ♪ We're unstoppable ♪ 2069 01:30:34,429 --> 01:30:37,307 ♪ This the night Every time, never quit ♪ 2070 01:30:37,307 --> 01:30:40,018 ♪ Dig deep Always fight, always win ♪ 2071 01:30:40,018 --> 01:30:43,146 ♪ We did the impossible Now we're unstoppable ♪ 2072 01:30:43,146 --> 01:30:45,982 ♪ This the night Every time, never quit ♪ 2073 01:30:45,982 --> 01:30:48,943 ♪ Dig deep Always fight, always win ♪ 2074 01:30:48,943 --> 01:30:51,363 ♪ Can't stop Never sleep, cause you know ♪ 2075 01:30:51,363 --> 01:30:54,699 ♪ We did the impossible Now we're unstoppable ♪ 2076 01:30:54,699 --> 01:30:57,410 ♪ This the night Every time, never quit ♪ 2077 01:31:03,166 --> 01:31:06,127 ♪ We did the impossible Now we're unstoppable ♪ 149370

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