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>>DAVID WILCOCK: I'm
jazzed up for this episode.
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Welcome back.
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I'm your host, David Wilcock.
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And we are delving deep into
the world of cosmic information,
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the most highly classified
stuff you could possibly
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get your hands on.
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It's been jealously
guarded behind so many
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compartmented layers of
secrecy that it was just never
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available before now.
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If you've been following
our narrative arc
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and you've been watching
through previous episodes,
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we've already covered some
really incredible stuff.
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We discussed how the German
secret societies as early
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as the 1920s and on
into the 1930s formed
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diplomatic and political
relationships with two
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different intelligent
civilizations,
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one known as the
Draco, which appear
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to be a various confederacy of
reptilian-looking humanoids,
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and the other being
the Agarthans, which
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are Nordic-looking people--
in other words, blue eyes,
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blonde hair, humans
about our height,
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maybe a little bit taller,
who presented themselves
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as being not from this
world but as he revealed
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are, in fact, people who were
originating here on Earth
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and due to catastrophic
events, had to go underground.
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So now what we've
been discussing
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is how this alliance formed
and how Agarthans and the Draco
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allowed the Germans
to be able to have
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the little extra help that they
needed to make their way up
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into space.
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We were just starting to get
to some really good stuff
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last time, and now we're back
to continue the story forward.
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So Corey, welcome
back to the show.
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>>COREY GOODE: Thank you.
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>>DAVID: I'm just trying
to keep my brain in my head
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here because the stuff that
you're telling me-- what is it
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like to get brought
into this world
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and to learn all these things?
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If you are walking
around in society
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and you know all
this stuff, what's
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it like to see people who
think that we're alone
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in the universe and
to think that this
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is all there is and there's
no life after death,
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all this kind of stuff?
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What's it like to
live in this world?
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>>GOODE: You get used to it.
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You see people looking
up at the moon,
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and I look up at the moon, and
I look at it totally different
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than other people.
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You grow accustomed to it.
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>>DAVID: So we were talking
about the history of how
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our space program got
developed, and this subject
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of the Agarthans is
really fascinating.
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It seems to connect
so many dots.
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When Graham Hancock wrote
"Fingerprints of the Gods,"
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his hypothesis was that you have
these blonde-haired, blue-eyed,
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Aryan-looking people
who show up in boats
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to all these various indigenous
cultures all over the world,
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present themselves as
gods, and teach them
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things like how to
create a water wheel,
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and then use the water wheel
to start grinding grain,
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and how to do metallurgy,
mathematics, astronomy.
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Do you think the
Agarthans had a lot
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to do with rebuilding our
societies in the aftermath
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of some sort of catastrophe?
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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Yeah, that ancient
breakaway civilization did,
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and there were others
that did the same thing.
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>>DAVID: So these
Agarthans, you said,
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were a lot more
favorable to the Germans
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because they looked
more like us.
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And this is where they got
this master race concept from,
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you believe?
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>>GOODE: Either
that or they were
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favorable to them because
of their proclivity
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to a master race.
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I don't know which came first.
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>>DAVID: So did the Agarthans
fly with the Germans
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in their bell craft?
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>>GOODE: Well, the bell was
actually the engine component,
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or the component that caused
the electrogravitic field.
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The craft were actually larger
saucer-shaped in the beginning.
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>>DAVID: What were the craft
called in the documentation
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that you saw?
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>>GOODE: When the
Americans actually
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got their hands on them,
they termed them ARVs,
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Alien Reproduction Vehicles.
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>>DAVID: Well, just to
loop back to my question
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because some people are going
to be left hanging if you don't
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answer this, did the Agarthans
ride with the Germans
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in these craft?
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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>>DAVID: Really?
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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>>DAVID: Was this
a frequent thing?
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Were they usually supervised and
didn't just go by themselves?
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>>GOODE: In the beginning.
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>>DAVID: What was the size, you
would estimate, of the Agarthan
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population?
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Are we talking maybe 10,000
people, 100,000 people?
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How big is it?
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>>GOODE: I don't know.
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I know it was very large
because it was a network.
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>>DAVID: Really?
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>>GOODE: This was a network
of underground cities.
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In the Himalayas, that was the
closest-to-the-surface city,
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and that seemed to be where
they came and went from the most
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from the surface.
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>>DAVID: Wow.
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So the Agarthans
introduced the Germans
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to this ruined area that was
under the ice in Antarctica.
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And you said that there was some
underground development as well
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as on the surface.
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>>GOODE: Right.
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>>DAVID: Are we talking
like basement cellars?
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Or how much underground
infrastructure
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did they have down there?
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>>GOODE: It was
basically the same kind
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of underground caverns
that had been built out
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by another civilization
in ancient times.
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>>DAVID: So it's
pretty extensive?
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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>>DAVID: We're talking
multiple levels down?
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>>GOODE: Right, just
like the description
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I gave to you one other time
about the further you go down,
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you have kind of a honeycomb
structure of caverns
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deeper under the Earth.
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>>DAVID: Let's just jump to that
for one second because I think
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a lot of people are going to
have some trouble with that
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in the idea that, at least in
conventional science terms,
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there's an understanding
that the farther down you
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go into the Earth that
the temperature is going
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to steadily increase.
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So wouldn't these people
just be burned alive
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in some kind of super oven?
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>>GOODE: That is the case
for certain areas and depths.
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And then after those
certain areas and depths,
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it begins to reverse.
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>>DAVID: You actually
get a cooling effect.
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>>GOODE: Right.
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It gets exponentially less
pressure and less heat,
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just as it exponentially
gets hotter and more pressure
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as you go down.
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It reverses.
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>>DAVID: Do you think
that these areas that
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are deep under the earth
that actually have vegetation
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and their own parallel
evolution of a biome of animals
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and plants and so on--
do you think this is
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evidence of intelligent design?
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Doesn't it seem
like the planet is
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rigged to have intelligent life
that can live on the surface
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and then maybe more advanced
intelligent life that
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can live underneath to supervise
while being undetected?
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>>GOODE: Life springs
up wherever life can.
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>>DAVID: Even in such a
complex form as a whole biome,
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you're saying?
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>>GOODE: Right, even
in interstellar space.
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>>DAVID: Right, we
talked about before,
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the Solar Warden people
analyzing these plasma beings
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out there.
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OK, so let's walk
through now how
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the Germans got up to the moon.
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We kind of covered this
a little bit last time,
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but you said that the super
federation meetings that you
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talked about, there were
22 genetic programs that
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are being run on
humanity, part of which
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involves the sharing and
splicing of genetic material.
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You also mentioned
that we're programmed
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to seek out and worship
god-like like figures
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and to transfer our power
to gurus and leaders
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and politicians,
that kind of thing?
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>>GOODE: Correct.
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>>DAVID: And these people that
run this super federation,
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I think you said there's
40 that are normally
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like the main ones?
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>>GOODE: 40 to 60.
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>>DAVID: Is it always
the same delegates
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that they send to these
conferences or does it rotate?
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>>GOODE: It's usually
the same ET delegates.
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The Earth delegation rotates.
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>>DAVID: So Corey,
we're going to have
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to devote whole episodes to
what happened with the building
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out of the moon, what happened
with the building out of Mars.
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But for the viewer, it's going
to be a really difficult thing
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for them to understand
how Germany,
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which was really the main
industrial engine behind World
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War I and World
War II-- they were
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arguably the great
industrial power of Europe.
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And then America became
their main counterpart
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in this boxing
match that created
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World War I and World War II.
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That very strong
industrial power
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seems to have been crushed.
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When we see the aftermath
of World War II,
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the Germans had to pay enormous
reconstruction settlements,
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financial settlements,
that essentially bankrupted
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their economy, just like what
happened after World War I
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where you got the
Weimar Republic,
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and people have a
wheelbarrow of money
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just to go buy a loaf of bread.
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So look, Germany seems to
have been flattened out
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and had nothing left.
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>>GOODE: Well, at
this point, Germany
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had already been abandoned
by the German breakaway
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civilization.
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>>DAVID: Really?
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When did that start to happen?
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>>GOODE: It started to happen
well before the end of the war.
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They saw the
writing on the wall.
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The war was going to go badly.
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They knew it.
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So they started, as we
discussed, creating enclaves
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in South America, in Brazil,
and then down in Antarctica.
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>>DAVID: So this was all in
preparation for them losing.
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What were they wanting
to do if they lost?
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>>GOODE: They just
wanted to continue
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their breakaway civilization,
just continue and leave
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all the regular people behind.
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>>DAVID: Is the apparatus
that's developing
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the breakaway civilization in
its own separate compartment,
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different from the
government apparatus
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that's actually
fighting the war?
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>>GOODE: Yes, they were
totally separate by this time.
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>>DAVID: Really?
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I think that's a widely
misunderstood concept, what
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you're saying there.
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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So what had happened is
in Operation Paperclip,
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America had obtained
quite a bit more
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scientists then as advertised.
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>>DAVID: What is
Operation Paperclip,
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for those who don't know?
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>>GOODE: Operation
Paperclip is an agreement
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to where we obtained German
scientists and technology that
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was highly advanced,
and these people
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were like 20, 30 years
ahead of us technologically,
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is what they say on paper.
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So we brought them
in, and after the war
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we took these German
scientists and put them
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into our fledgling
space programs,
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into our infrastructure,
and started giving them
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quite a bit of power as they
started proving themselves
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as valuable assets.
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>>DAVID: Why in the
world we trust them?
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>>GOODE: They were
making us money.
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>>DAVID: Doesn't seem
like a good idea.
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>>GOODE: Well, it wasn't.
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So what we had in 1947
was our intelligence
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agencies had discovered that
the breakaway German groups had
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created enclaves in South
America and Antarctica.
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And we knew that
in Antarctica, it
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was a very large military base.
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So what the DOD had decided
was to send a very large fleet
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under the command
of Admiral Byrd.
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And this was called
Operation High Jump,
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which many people were
familiar with the name
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of that operation.
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I can't remember the exact
number, but it was a war fleet.
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>>DAVID: Battleships,
destroyers?
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>>GOODE: Battleships,
destroyers, aircraft carriers,
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submarines, whole nine yards.
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>>DAVID: This is after
World War II, though.
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You said 1947?
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>>GOODE: 1947, yeah.
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And they made it all the
way down to Antarctica.
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And they ended up running into
quite a bit of high technology
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that they didn't expect.
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There were these highly
advanced aircraft
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that were coming
up out of the water
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and from mainland Antarctica
that were shooting down
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their craft and causing
major damage on, I think,
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several destroyers.
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And their lives were lost.
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They really had their
rear ends handed to them.
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>>DAVID: Shooting them down
with rockets or machine guns?
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>>GOODE: Advanced weaponry.
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>>DAVID: Really?
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>>GOODE: Right.
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Energetic weaponry of some sort.
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>>DAVID: Wow.
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How destructive
were these weapons?
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What would happen
if they fired one?
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>>GOODE: It was destructive
enough to get the job done.
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So they turned around,
retreated, came back,
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and Admiral Byrd went before
the DOD and the President,
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the Joint Chiefs, and
gave a closed report
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about what he ran into.
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And his log is still
the captain's log.
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It's still under lock
and key to this day.
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Some of his comments made
it out into the public realm
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to where he said,
the next war, we
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will be attacked by
aircraft that will fly pole
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to pole in a matter of minutes.
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A couple little comments
got out like that from him.
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But this caused the DOD and
the intelligence agencies
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to go to the Paper
Clip scientists.
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>>DAVID: But wait a minute.
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I was a geek, and I've
read like 300 books
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on Atlantis and all this.
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And they say that Admiral Byrd
saw the flat Earth, that there
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were mammoths and cavemen.
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>>GOODE: That's a bunch of
stuff that came out later
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that has nothing to do with the
actual mission that he was on.
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>>DAVID: Was it disinformation?
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Was it planted disinformation?
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>>GOODE: It was either
disinformation or somebody
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with a large imagination.
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I don't know which.
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>>DAVID: OK.
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>>GOODE: But they ended
up getting in contact
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with some of these Paper
Clip German scientists
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and asked about it.
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And some of them came
clean and said, yes, we
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know about this group.
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And they said-- they being
the Americans-- American
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intelligence and
government, said, well,
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can you get us in
contact with them?
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So these Paper Clip
scientists started a dialogue
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between the Americans.
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And then I believe
it was Truman.
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>>DAVID: Did they do this over
radio communications, some sort
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of encrypted communication?
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>>GOODE: Well, it started
out radio communications.
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And they arranged for a
meeting between Truman
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and this breakaway group.
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>>DAVID: No kidding?
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>>GOODE: And this
breakaway group
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started making some
pretty heavy demands
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that Truman didn't like.
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>>DAVID: So if
High Jump is 1947,
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what are we now talking in time?
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>>GOODE: Immediately after that.
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>>DAVID: Really?
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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So after that, there was
a period of contention.
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The German breakaway
civilization
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found out through the
Paper Clip Germans
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that after Roswell and
a couple other previous
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crashes from
extraterrestrial craft,
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that we had created
a policy that it
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was top secret above
nuclear weapons,
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that the existence
of extraterrestrials
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and certain
technologies was never
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to be released to mankind.
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And it was because
it would destroy
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society and all of that.
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That was their reasoning.
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So the German breakaway
group down in Antarctica
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took advantage of this
and pretty much started
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doing sorties over
the United States.
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And this includes the 1952
flyovers of Washington, DC,
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that were two weeks apart.
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>>DAVID: I always had thought
that was extraterrestrials.
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They flew right
over the Congress.
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>>GOODE: That was the
German breakaway group.
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And that was their way of
saying, agree to our terms,
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sign a treaty with us, or we're
going to break this wide open,
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and we know that that
is your worst nightmare.
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You don't want the American
people knowing anything
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about this.
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>>DAVID: Or they'd lose
control of the oil.
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So they'd lose their money.
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They'd lose the economy.
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>>GOODE: Exactly.
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>>DAVID: They'd lose
political credibility.
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>>GOODE: Mm-hmm.
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>>DAVID: Wow.
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So it's the offer
they couldn't refuse.
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>>GOODE: Right.
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So this was happening at
the end of Truman's time
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and at the beginning of
Eisenhower's time in office.
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>>DAVID: At this point, did the
President of the United States
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still actually have the
final say-so on the military
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and what they were doing?
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>>GOODE: Yes, he still
had quite a bit of power.
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And Eisenhower and Truman were
the ones that signed treaties
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with this group.
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>>DAVID: Wow.
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>>GOODE: And what
this did, is this
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brought the German breakaway
group here to the US.
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Now, both groups had an agenda.
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The Americans had a plan that
when the German breakaway
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group got here, we were
going to infiltrate them, get
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their technology, find
a way to defeat them,
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to use clean language, and
then come out the winner.
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Well, the German breakaway
group had exactly the same plan.
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They wanted to build out the
infrastructure in deep space,
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or in our solar system,
and who better to do that
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than the United States?
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Because we had defeated them
with our industrial might.
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I mean, that is
what defeated them.
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We built more tanks.
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We built more bombs.
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It was attrition that
caused them to lose the war.
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>>DAVID: Did this German
group get out with gold?
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Like did they have their
own source of funding
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that they could use if
they had potential labor
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pools to activate?
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>>GOODE: Yeah, they had lots of
gold and plunder that they had.
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>>DAVID: But they need workers.
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They need actual
industrial infrastructure.
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>>GOODE: They need
industrial infrastructure,
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and they needed access
to our corporations which
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signed the checks, and created
the business plans, and helped
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build out the infrastructure.
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So what happened
is they basically
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won the little competition
of who would infiltrate who.
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They completely infiltrated the
military industrial complex.
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>>DAVID: Completely infiltrated?
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>>GOODE: Completely.
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>>DAVID: That's a very
provocative statement.
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How do you define
completely infiltrated?
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>>GOODE: Well, they had already
had a pretty good foothold
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with the German Paper
Clip scientists.
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And when they came in with
all this high technology,
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the fat-cat businessmen
didn't care who they were.
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They didn't care if they
were German breakaway groups.
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They didn't care what patch
was on their shoulder.
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These banker fat cats
and big-company bigwigs
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just had dollar
signs in their eyes.
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>>DAVID: They want the
best toys on the block.
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>>GOODE: That's right.
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So they with open arms
accepted these German groups.
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And they got onto their boards.
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They totally infiltrated.
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>>DAVID: What did the Germans
show them to convince them?
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Did they get any tours?
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Did they get to see this
stuff in Antarctica,
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anything like that?
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>>GOODE: No, they handed
over some of the ARVs, craft,
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to let us back-engineer while
they were still playing us.
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And this was really the
root behind Eisenhower's
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farewell address about the
military industrial complex.
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>>DAVID: His warning about
the rise of unwarranted power
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and influence by the
military industrial complex.
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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And by the end of
the '50s, early '60s,
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they had completely
infiltrated, also,
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the intelligence agencies.
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And then after
that, they finally
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had taken over basically
the US government.
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>>DAVID: That's
a lot to take in.
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>>GOODE: It is.
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>>DAVID: I think everybody,
especially people who
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are sports-minded, want
to be on the winning team.
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And if you are on a
team that didn't win,
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you feel as if you're a failure.
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I think you're going to
encounter a lot of resistance
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because people don't
want to be a failure.
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They want to believe in God
and country, mom and apple
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pie, white picket fence, SUV in
the driveway, and 2.5 children.
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What you're saying completely
violates the idea of America
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as we know it.
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>>GOODE: And that's what's
going on at the top.
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Everybody down at
the lower level,
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we still have that illusion.
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We still have the
white-picket fence.
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We still have the
SUVs in the driveway.
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So we've been able to
maintain that illusion.
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>>DAVID: Are there still
people in the US military
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who believe in the Constitution
that they swore an oath to?
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>>GOODE: Absolutely.
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Yes.
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>>DAVID: So this could
cause a problem, then,
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if the corporations,
the defense contractors
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are cutting a deal
with the Germans.
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Not everybody is
going to really want
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to dance in lockstep
with Germany.
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>>GOODE: Yes, and
we can get into this
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later about the contention
in the government,
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in the Earth alliances,
and what's going on there.
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The Germans, once they had a
firm grip on the infrastructure
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of the United States, that
is when the massive buildout
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started to begin in space and
the secret space programs.
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And they started
working together
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with American cabal groups that
had pretty much been working
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together the whole time, during
World War I and World War II
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anyway.
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So at that point,
that's when they
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started to build
out the secret space
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program in earnest and
the massive infrastructure
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that I'm talking about.
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>>DAVID: So you
said High Jump 1947,
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Truman starts to meet with
them right after High Jump.
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Negotiations start to take
place, but it's not going well.
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And then the Germans
pushed the envelope
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by making this very
blatant public UFO
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sighting that, if
it happened now
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with everybody's
little camera phone,
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it would be the end
of the UFO coverup.
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>>GOODE: Right.
493
00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:31,200
>>DAVID: Right over
the capital, right
494
00:25:31,300 --> 00:25:34,867
over the government building of
the United States of America.
495
00:25:34,967 --> 00:25:37,133
That's 1952 you said.
496
00:25:37,233 --> 00:25:38,467
What's the timeline?
497
00:25:38,567 --> 00:25:42,333
Sketch it out for us of
when did this translate.
498
00:25:42,433 --> 00:25:44,633
Did they immediately surrender
after that over-flight?
499
00:25:44,733 --> 00:25:47,800
Was that like the final
uncle, uncle, uncle thing?
500
00:25:47,900 --> 00:25:51,833
>>GOODE: That was
the straw that broke
501
00:25:51,933 --> 00:25:55,900
the camel's back to where the
presidential advisors said,
502
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,233
OK, we need to sign a treaty.
503
00:25:59,333 --> 00:26:02,967
When we sign the
treaty, we will also
504
00:26:03,067 --> 00:26:05,133
come up with a plan
to go ahead, and try
505
00:26:05,233 --> 00:26:08,467
to infiltrate, and
steal their technology,
506
00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:10,900
and deal with them
at a later time.
507
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,333
We won't try to
deal from weakness.
508
00:26:13,433 --> 00:26:16,433
And that pretty much
brings us up to date
509
00:26:16,533 --> 00:26:19,433
to where we got to
where they started
510
00:26:19,533 --> 00:26:22,000
to build out the
main infrastructure
511
00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:23,767
of the secret space program.
512
00:26:23,867 --> 00:26:27,033
>>DAVID: Now, that obviously
is going to take manpower.
513
00:26:27,133 --> 00:26:28,633
How do they get the muscle?
514
00:26:28,733 --> 00:26:32,133
This is another thing I think
people have such trouble with.
515
00:26:32,233 --> 00:26:35,367
And we only have a few
minutes left, two or three
516
00:26:35,467 --> 00:26:37,333
minutes left.
517
00:26:37,433 --> 00:26:40,400
>>GOODE: That's going to get
us to something a lot of people
518
00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:43,500
have heard a little bit about
which has been called the Brain
519
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,500
Drain that occurred
in the '50s, '60s,
520
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,900
and on through the '80s
of a lot of top scientists
521
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:57,933
across the world being
approached and made
522
00:26:58,033 --> 00:27:00,500
offers to join these programs.
523
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,167
And there was all of a sudden
all these brilliant scientists
524
00:27:03,267 --> 00:27:05,400
that disappeared off
the face of the Earth.
525
00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:07,167
>>DAVID: You say a
lot of scientists
526
00:27:07,267 --> 00:27:10,133
and all these brilliant-- what
is "a lot" and "all these?"
527
00:27:10,233 --> 00:27:14,467
>>GOODE: There were
millions of people
528
00:27:14,567 --> 00:27:20,233
over a long period of time
that were brilliant and showed
529
00:27:20,333 --> 00:27:25,267
a lot of promise that they felt
could contribute to this space
530
00:27:25,367 --> 00:27:31,133
program that was growing as
the infrastructure group.
531
00:27:31,233 --> 00:27:37,067
And they brought these
people in to be a part of it.
532
00:27:37,167 --> 00:27:39,633
>>DAVID: Well, my insider,
Pete Peterson, an old-timer,
533
00:27:39,733 --> 00:27:42,800
of course, said that it
was 50 to 60 million people
534
00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:43,700
in the Brain Drain.
535
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,167
>>GOODE: That's a lot.
536
00:27:45,267 --> 00:27:48,133
>>DAVID: And are they assigned
to have children really
537
00:27:48,233 --> 00:27:50,367
quickly once they grow of age?
538
00:27:50,467 --> 00:27:53,167
>>GOODE: Yeah, they're told
to be fruitful and multiply.
539
00:27:56,033 --> 00:27:57,300
>>DAVID: So 60
million people who
540
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,067
have kids as soon as
they get to be old enough
541
00:28:00,167 --> 00:28:02,600
to do that, you could be
talking about a population
542
00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:05,333
as large as everyone in
the United States or more.
543
00:28:05,433 --> 00:28:06,367
>>GOODE: Right.
544
00:28:06,467 --> 00:28:07,600
>>DAVID: Wow.
545
00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:10,400
We're going to be continuing
this narrative forward,
546
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:13,467
finding out more
about what happened.
547
00:28:13,567 --> 00:28:15,733
How did we get these
people up into space?
548
00:28:15,833 --> 00:28:18,200
What were they told?
549
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:20,833
There's a lot more
coming up ahead here.
550
00:28:20,933 --> 00:28:24,333
So I thank you for
watching and stay tuned.
551
00:28:24,433 --> 00:28:28,300
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