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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,300 --> 00:00:09,600 ♪ Nick, nick, nick, nick Na-nick, nick, nick ♪ 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,360 ♪ Nick-e-lo-de-on! ♪ 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,260 [Katrina] For a certain generation, 4 00:00:13,260 --> 00:00:15,260 the Nickelodeon jingle is burned 5 00:00:15,260 --> 00:00:16,660 into our brain. 6 00:00:16,660 --> 00:00:18,360 [Marc] Get some juice in the glass! 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,060 [Katrina] In the early '90s, 8 00:00:20,060 --> 00:00:22,260 Nickelodeon was kid everything. 9 00:00:22,260 --> 00:00:23,560 It was like the mecca. 10 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,500 -Nickelodeon is the place where only kids win. -[kids cheering] 11 00:00:26,500 --> 00:00:29,330 It was the starting point of everything cool. 12 00:00:29,860 --> 00:00:31,000 [Giovonnie] You come home. 13 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,860 You watch Salute Your Shorts. 14 00:00:32,860 --> 00:00:34,360 Are You Afraid of the Dark? 15 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,700 Have you lost your mind? 16 00:00:35,700 --> 00:00:38,330 [Giovonnie] Everybody watched Ren & Stimpy. 17 00:00:38,900 --> 00:00:41,000 God, I sound so old saying... 18 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,500 [imitating] You know, before when I was comin' up 19 00:00:42,500 --> 00:00:43,900 there were no internet, like... 20 00:00:43,900 --> 00:00:45,400 [laughing] 21 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,600 [in normal voice] But there wasn't. 22 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,860 We didn't have Netflix and Hulu. 23 00:00:48,860 --> 00:00:52,100 We didn't have ten things to choose from. 24 00:00:52,100 --> 00:00:53,500 There was Nickelodeon 25 00:00:53,500 --> 00:00:54,830 and there was Disney. 26 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:56,860 And that was it. 27 00:00:56,860 --> 00:00:59,760 And you better hope that your house had cable. 28 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,100 In the '90s and 2000s, 29 00:01:01,100 --> 00:01:03,760 there was one producer who was able to take Nickelodeon 30 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:04,600 to new heights. 31 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,160 It is our great honor to present 32 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,660 the first ever Nickelodeon Lifetime Achievement Award 33 00:01:09,660 --> 00:01:11,800 to a man who's been making all of us laugh 34 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,260 for the past two decades. 35 00:01:13,260 --> 00:01:16,100 [all] Dan Schneider! 36 00:01:16,100 --> 00:01:18,160 [Kate] The 2014 Kid's Choice Awards 37 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,160 showed that Dan Schneider 38 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,330 was Nickelodeon's golden boy. 39 00:01:23,260 --> 00:01:24,600 He was their cash cow. 40 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,560 He created these shows that were... 41 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,460 hugely, hugely successful for them. 42 00:01:28,460 --> 00:01:31,500 -[audience applauding] -[Kate] He launched the careers of child actors 43 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:33,430 who became major stars. 44 00:01:34,100 --> 00:01:35,500 [Scaachi] For 20 years, 45 00:01:35,500 --> 00:01:37,560 he shaped children's entertainment 46 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,800 and shaped children's culture. 47 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,860 When Dan accepted his award, he was elated, 48 00:01:42,860 --> 00:01:44,160 he was emotional, 49 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,200 and very few could have predicted his downfall. 50 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,760 Whoo! Try not to cry. 51 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,000 [all laugh] 52 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,600 Wow, thank you so much. 53 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:52,560 I will warn you... 54 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,930 if you were a child of the '90s... 55 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,630 this is going to ruin that for you. 56 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,160 [woman] What do we really know 57 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,260 about Dan Schneider? 58 00:02:04,260 --> 00:02:07,000 [Kate] For decades, Dan seemed like he was untouchable. 59 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,100 But around 2017, 60 00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:11,000 the internet videos around Dan 61 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,000 really started gaining momentum. 62 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,760 He made them do things that were very weird. 63 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,330 There are all these setups that referenced porn. 64 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,160 [audience laughing] 65 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,660 [Scaachi] Like, squirting goo on Jamie Lynn's face 66 00:02:22,660 --> 00:02:24,930 when she's just 13 years old. 67 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,860 Feel these kids' feet. 68 00:02:26,860 --> 00:02:28,860 Wow, they're really soft. 69 00:02:28,860 --> 00:02:31,360 [Kate] People were looking back at old scenes and saying, 70 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,700 "Dan Schneider is obsessed with feet." 71 00:02:33,700 --> 00:02:34,660 Check this out. 72 00:02:34,660 --> 00:02:36,300 It's all very gross and foul things. 73 00:02:36,300 --> 00:02:37,660 ...impossible to escape children's feet. 74 00:02:37,660 --> 00:02:39,860 -[woman] Dan Schneider... -[man] ...absolutely disgusting. 75 00:02:39,860 --> 00:02:40,860 He's a grown ass man. 76 00:02:40,860 --> 00:02:42,160 What the [bleep] are you doing? 77 00:02:44,060 --> 00:02:46,260 There's one video of Ariana Grande 78 00:02:46,260 --> 00:02:48,360 making a joke about a potato. 79 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,900 Sometimes I wonder 80 00:02:49,900 --> 00:02:51,800 if you can get juice... 81 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:52,960 from a potato. 82 00:02:54,860 --> 00:02:55,760 [inhales heavily] 83 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,560 [Ariana groaning] 84 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:00,930 Did that air on Nickelodeon? 85 00:03:01,260 --> 00:03:02,230 [squealing] 86 00:03:02,660 --> 00:03:03,800 Come on! 87 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,530 Give up the juice. 88 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,100 Yikes. 89 00:03:07,100 --> 00:03:08,860 I'm thirsty. 90 00:03:08,860 --> 00:03:09,760 [Kate] In another video, 91 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,400 Ariana is pouring water on herself 92 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,160 in what seems like a very sexual manner. 93 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,900 And people started saying 94 00:03:14,900 --> 00:03:17,460 this feels inappropriate for children. 95 00:03:17,460 --> 00:03:20,160 -[squealing] -Looking at Dan Schneider's stars, 96 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,760 some of them became extremely famous, 97 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,660 some of them really struggled publicly. 98 00:03:24,660 --> 00:03:26,160 After her arrest last week... 99 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,600 [Scaachi] Now some of them are starting to speak out 100 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,760 about what happened when they were on his sets. 101 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,500 I work with an incredibly emotionally abusive producer. 102 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:35,200 I did not feel safe around Dan Schneider 103 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,160 while I was working at Nickelodeon. 104 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,000 All of this information 105 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,760 has made us wonder... 106 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,460 what was happening behind the scenes. 107 00:03:43,460 --> 00:03:45,460 As a reporter at Insider, 108 00:03:45,460 --> 00:03:47,860 I wanted to investigate further. 109 00:03:47,860 --> 00:03:53,230 [woman 1] I've been waiting for someone to question the climate. 110 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,630 It's been a long time coming. 111 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,000 I didn't feel safe to say, "This hurt me." 112 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,460 [woman 2] The bad just doesn't go away. 113 00:04:04,460 --> 00:04:06,560 The bad stays for a lifetime. 114 00:04:07,460 --> 00:04:10,730 It was a toxic, unsafe environment. 115 00:04:11,500 --> 00:04:12,860 [Jenny] I can't sit on it anymore. 116 00:04:12,860 --> 00:04:14,460 I can't watch it continue. 117 00:04:14,460 --> 00:04:17,830 [woman 3] I want, uh, people to be accountable. 118 00:04:19,660 --> 00:04:22,930 I've been waiting 17 years for today. [chuckles] 119 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,260 Nickelodeon was a little wild. 120 00:04:34,260 --> 00:04:37,160 -[all screaming] -[Marc] All right. All right, guys. 121 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,260 It was a little quirky. 122 00:04:38,260 --> 00:04:39,300 [audience cheering] 123 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:40,330 [Giovonnie] Always funny... 124 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,300 but from a kid's view. 125 00:04:42,300 --> 00:04:43,460 [audience cheering on TV] 126 00:04:43,460 --> 00:04:46,660 And in Nickelodeon shows, parents are, like, 127 00:04:46,660 --> 00:04:49,460 not really around. 128 00:04:49,460 --> 00:04:51,460 It was, like, the kid is the star. 129 00:04:51,460 --> 00:04:53,900 You know, sometimes parents are so dumb. 130 00:04:53,900 --> 00:04:56,260 -[audience laughing] -Nickelodeon wasn't there to educate you. 131 00:04:56,260 --> 00:04:57,900 -Put your hat on. -[audience cheering] 132 00:04:57,900 --> 00:04:59,600 [Marc] We were there to have fun, to get slimed, 133 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:00,660 to be entertained. 134 00:05:00,660 --> 00:05:01,900 [man] I'll get you! 135 00:05:01,900 --> 00:05:03,100 I was slimed more times 136 00:05:03,100 --> 00:05:04,560 than I can care to tell you about. 137 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,560 It was part of my job. 138 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,900 It's cold, it's wet, it's gooey, it's sticky. 139 00:05:07,900 --> 00:05:10,900 -[man] Oh, my goly! -[audience laughing] 140 00:05:10,900 --> 00:05:12,900 [Marc] Exactly how did that feel? 141 00:05:12,900 --> 00:05:14,260 Like my son threw up on me. 142 00:05:14,260 --> 00:05:17,000 [all laughing] 143 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,900 [Kate] In the mid-'90s, Nickelodeon is pushing the boundaries 144 00:05:19,900 --> 00:05:21,100 of children's entertainment. 145 00:05:21,100 --> 00:05:23,400 [indistinct conversations] 146 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,530 [Kate] And this is when Dan Schneider arrives. 147 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,500 He's young. He's ambitious. 148 00:05:28,500 --> 00:05:30,900 And he has a lot to prove. 149 00:05:30,900 --> 00:05:32,830 [piano music playing] 150 00:05:33,860 --> 00:05:37,100 [Kate] Dan comes out of Memphis. 151 00:05:37,100 --> 00:05:38,260 He describes himself as sort of 152 00:05:38,260 --> 00:05:40,200 a awkward fat kid. 153 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,860 [Kate] He's coming from a father who went to Harvard. 154 00:05:42,860 --> 00:05:45,460 And his parents do not have 155 00:05:45,460 --> 00:05:46,830 the highest expectations for him. 156 00:05:47,700 --> 00:05:48,900 He wasn't exactly someone 157 00:05:48,900 --> 00:05:51,460 who they thought was going to be massively successful. 158 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,560 So Dan is able to find himself in drama. 159 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,560 Early articles about Dan say 160 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:00,860 he went to Harvard. 161 00:06:00,860 --> 00:06:05,100 But he never actually attended the university. 162 00:06:05,100 --> 00:06:07,060 He auditions for this teen movie 163 00:06:07,060 --> 00:06:09,060 that's shooting in Memphis and he gets a job. 164 00:06:09,460 --> 00:06:11,260 Hello, Pizzas R Us? 165 00:06:11,260 --> 00:06:12,260 [Kate] It's a small role. 166 00:06:12,260 --> 00:06:14,200 But it eventually leads to Dan 167 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,660 ending up on a really big show. 168 00:06:16,660 --> 00:06:17,860 [Rick] He is on Head of the Class 169 00:06:17,860 --> 00:06:21,660 which is at the time one of the biggest comedies on TV. 170 00:06:21,660 --> 00:06:22,860 He was 19. 171 00:06:22,860 --> 00:06:24,260 [Dan] This put us on the map, I mean... 172 00:06:24,260 --> 00:06:26,660 This got us small homes and this... 173 00:06:26,660 --> 00:06:27,800 [all laughing] 174 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,660 We... We get tables in restaurants now. 175 00:06:30,660 --> 00:06:33,600 [Rick] As an actor, Dan was cast as the fat kid. 176 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:34,960 You guys pick on the blimp again. 177 00:06:35,100 --> 00:06:36,100 Nice. 178 00:06:36,100 --> 00:06:37,260 You could sing "We Are the World" 179 00:06:37,260 --> 00:06:38,760 -all by yourself. -[audience laughs] 180 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,660 He seemed always driven by this fat joke. 181 00:06:40,660 --> 00:06:43,260 "I'm gonna show people that that's not who I am. 182 00:06:43,260 --> 00:06:45,830 I'm not the fat kid. I'm this talented writer." 183 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,200 His first rip that he sold in TV was Head of the Class. 184 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,960 He cowrote it with one of the other cast members. 185 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,230 And everything else happened because of that show. 186 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,160 Several years later, 187 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,660 Nickelodeon executive came to him and said, 188 00:07:02,660 --> 00:07:04,300 "Hey, we're working on this idea 189 00:07:04,300 --> 00:07:06,100 for a sketch show, All That. 190 00:07:06,100 --> 00:07:07,760 Would you like to write the pilot?" 191 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,360 And the next thing you know, 192 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,060 he is producing the show. 193 00:07:11,060 --> 00:07:12,800 He's writing episodes. 194 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,530 [Virgil] All That first launched in 1994. 195 00:07:16,100 --> 00:07:17,160 The concept was, 196 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,260 it was a Saturday Night Live for kids. 197 00:07:19,260 --> 00:07:21,160 I wanted to make a show for Nickelodeon 198 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,860 and I wanted to do sketch comedy 199 00:07:22,860 --> 00:07:25,200 'cause no one had ever really done sketch comedy 200 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,860 starring kids for kids. 201 00:07:26,860 --> 00:07:28,500 [Scaachi] At the beginning of his career, 202 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:30,760 Dan Schneider and his early producing partner 203 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,800 Brian Robbins got noticed by the press 204 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,560 for all of their success for All That. 205 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:35,630 It's a special thing. 206 00:07:35,630 --> 00:07:37,960 I mean, not many kids get to go on national television 207 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,500 and play 1,000 different characters. 208 00:07:39,500 --> 00:07:40,360 Eat rotten cheese... 209 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,030 -We're doing highbrow stuff. -Yeah. 210 00:07:43,260 --> 00:07:45,400 [Scaachi] All That was a really edgy concept. 211 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,200 And it established Dan Schneider 212 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,060 as this creative force at Nickelodeon. 213 00:07:50,060 --> 00:07:51,200 And he helped launch the career 214 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,760 of some of comedy's biggest names 215 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,160 like Kel Mitchell and Kenan Thompson. 216 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,460 Is chocolate good for congestion? 217 00:07:57,460 --> 00:07:59,000 I have no idea. 218 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,500 All That quickly became 219 00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:02,460 a pretty big hit for Nickelodeon 220 00:08:02,460 --> 00:08:05,600 where they went from, like, a pretty scrappy production 221 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,660 to getting some of the biggest names in entertainment 222 00:08:08,660 --> 00:08:09,700 to be these guests. 223 00:08:09,700 --> 00:08:11,160 -[audience cheering] -I do. 224 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,060 ♪ All That, yo We be coming ♪ 225 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,960 My name is Leon Frierson. 226 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,560 I was on seasons four to six of All That. 227 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:19,860 Quinn gotta showered 228 00:08:19,860 --> 00:08:22,100 and knocked out by a talking cheeseburger. 229 00:08:22,100 --> 00:08:23,160 [laughs] 230 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,700 [Leon] A lot of us got our break on All That. 231 00:08:25,700 --> 00:08:28,200 I am Katrina Johnson. 232 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,660 From the time I was ten to 16, 233 00:08:31,100 --> 00:08:33,430 I starred on All That. 234 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,760 Garty! 235 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,100 How are you, my darlin'? 236 00:08:38,100 --> 00:08:42,000 [Katrina] Dan Schneider was my mentor. 237 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,960 And I remember, my first audition, he was there. 238 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,260 All of my callbacks, he was there. 239 00:08:47,260 --> 00:08:49,060 You wanna... Sorry. 240 00:08:49,060 --> 00:08:51,430 You wanna see something really gross? 241 00:08:52,100 --> 00:08:53,060 Look at this. 242 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:56,530 [all laughing] 243 00:08:58,260 --> 00:09:01,660 I'm so flat, it's disgusting. 244 00:09:01,660 --> 00:09:03,660 When we were filming the pilot, 245 00:09:03,660 --> 00:09:05,460 he came up to me and he said, 246 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,230 "I chose you. 247 00:09:07,660 --> 00:09:09,100 You are my choice. 248 00:09:09,100 --> 00:09:10,760 And I know you're gonna be great." 249 00:09:12,500 --> 00:09:14,560 It made me feel like a million bucks. 250 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:17,160 When I would say, 251 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,460 "Hey, I have this idea for this character," 252 00:09:19,460 --> 00:09:20,760 he would always listen. 253 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,360 And we would usually turn it into something. 254 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,560 One day, the network called my parents and said, 255 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:31,260 "We want to see how you would feel 256 00:09:31,260 --> 00:09:34,160 if we created The Katrina Johnson Show." 257 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,800 And that I'm already living the dream life, 258 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,730 but it gets even better. 259 00:09:39,860 --> 00:09:42,100 Dan, and he was the head writer, so... 260 00:09:42,100 --> 00:09:43,660 Dan kind of ran things. 261 00:09:43,660 --> 00:09:45,960 I'm the producer. Executive producer. 262 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,330 That's why he gets the headset. 263 00:09:48,060 --> 00:09:49,260 I have to yell. 264 00:09:49,260 --> 00:09:50,800 In early behind the scenes interviews, 265 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,000 you see Dan presenting himself 266 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,360 as a self-deprecating and really funny boss. 267 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,760 Dan just created a really fun set. 268 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,560 Don't know what's taking so long now. 269 00:10:03,560 --> 00:10:04,760 Let me find out. 270 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:05,930 [woman] All right, come on. 271 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,330 [man] That could explain it. 272 00:10:08,330 --> 00:10:09,660 -Come on, not again. -[indistinct conversations] 273 00:10:09,660 --> 00:10:12,100 ♪ Happy birthday ♪ 274 00:10:12,100 --> 00:10:14,430 -[indistinct conversations] -[all laughing and cheering] 275 00:10:15,460 --> 00:10:17,060 Nothing humiliating about that! 276 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:20,500 [Virgil] Dan was a big kid. 277 00:10:20,500 --> 00:10:23,460 He was always doing something to joke around 278 00:10:23,460 --> 00:10:25,700 or poke fun at somebody. 279 00:10:25,700 --> 00:10:26,700 [Dan] I mean, okay, 280 00:10:26,700 --> 00:10:28,300 These are the breaks, y'all. 281 00:10:28,300 --> 00:10:30,760 He kept things pretty light in the beginning. 282 00:10:32,460 --> 00:10:35,660 [Katrina] On All That, he would inspire you 283 00:10:35,660 --> 00:10:37,360 to get whatever it was that you needed 284 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,630 to get it done, you know? 285 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,330 But we were kids and they were long days. 286 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:44,260 [Leon] You know, some would say 287 00:10:44,260 --> 00:10:46,260 that he was trying to push them towards greatness. 288 00:10:46,260 --> 00:10:49,460 But there's also a... another side. 289 00:10:49,460 --> 00:10:53,700 [Scaachi] A lot of these kids in the entertainment industry are vulnerable. 290 00:10:53,700 --> 00:10:56,360 The power balance between a child and an adult 291 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,460 is so striking already. 292 00:10:58,460 --> 00:10:59,860 And then on top of it you add 293 00:10:59,860 --> 00:11:02,030 that it's an employment situation. 294 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,360 These are eight to 15-year-olds... 295 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,560 and they are often responsible 296 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:09,160 for the entire economic success 297 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,700 of their families. 298 00:11:10,700 --> 00:11:12,800 What are they gonna do if they get in trouble? 299 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,700 What if all of this goes away because they complained? 300 00:11:15,700 --> 00:11:18,600 And so you spend your time working, 301 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,860 hoping that people don't poke the soft spots 302 00:11:20,860 --> 00:11:22,230 on your body and in your brain. 303 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,100 [woman] Dan! Dan. 304 00:11:25,100 --> 00:11:27,400 Here, Leon, start to the green room. They're there... 305 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,660 [Leon] On All That, 306 00:11:28,660 --> 00:11:30,060 what really made me feel 307 00:11:30,060 --> 00:11:31,960 the most uncomfortable were... 308 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:33,530 the leotards. 309 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,360 I mean, I was just a growing boy 310 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,760 trying to, you know, fit into my body 311 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,460 and it was just out there 312 00:11:41,460 --> 00:11:45,060 for everyone to kind of look at and... 313 00:11:45,060 --> 00:11:46,360 judge me or... 314 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,760 You know, I just felt very exposed. 315 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,760 [indistinct chatter] 316 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,860 [Leon] So one week we get a script, 317 00:11:52,860 --> 00:11:56,900 there's a new character for me on All That named Nose Boy. 318 00:11:56,900 --> 00:11:59,200 Naturally, I'm in a superhero costume 319 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,060 which is just tights and underwear. 320 00:12:02,060 --> 00:12:04,200 You know, what was different about this... 321 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,000 They... They gave me a prosthetic nose, 322 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,100 like a enlarged nose... 323 00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:10,860 and they put this same nose on the costume. 324 00:12:12,860 --> 00:12:14,600 I'm Captain Big Nose. 325 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,300 -[audience laughing] -What are your special powers? 326 00:12:16,300 --> 00:12:17,560 [Leon] You can't help but notice 327 00:12:17,560 --> 00:12:20,830 that it looks like penis and testicles on my shoulders. 328 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,500 [Scaachi] This is a child playing this role. 329 00:12:25,500 --> 00:12:28,260 And he is playing it for other children. 330 00:12:28,260 --> 00:12:30,900 His audience is kids as young as six. 331 00:12:30,900 --> 00:12:32,560 I'm allergic to asteroids. 332 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:34,260 -[audience laughing] -[gasping] 333 00:12:34,260 --> 00:12:35,500 [sneezes] 334 00:12:35,500 --> 00:12:36,960 [audience laughing] 335 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,100 And the joke in that sketch is effectively a [bleep] joke. 336 00:12:44,100 --> 00:12:46,430 It a [bleep] joke for children. 337 00:12:47,860 --> 00:12:49,100 [Leon] I'm just looking back at it, 338 00:12:49,100 --> 00:12:50,730 it's just very strange. 339 00:12:51,900 --> 00:12:53,730 Frankly, it was just uncomfortable. 340 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:55,960 In the... the moments to myself 341 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,960 you would just be thinking, like... 342 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,960 "Hey, this is what we gotta do be on the show. 343 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:02,360 To stay in the cast and stay in the good graces 344 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:03,960 of the people that were higher up." 345 00:13:05,460 --> 00:13:07,760 Some of the child actors felt like they could not push back, 346 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,100 especially with Dan Schneider. 347 00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:13,100 And so I always did my best to be a trooper. 348 00:13:13,100 --> 00:13:14,200 Never complain. 349 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,500 'Cause we knew, 350 00:13:15,500 --> 00:13:17,360 being close to Dan, 351 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,560 could mean an extra level of, uh, success. 352 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:24,700 It was important to be... to be on his good side. 353 00:13:24,700 --> 00:13:27,660 And he made it known who was on his good side. 354 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,630 [Katrina] One day, uh, the producers called my house... 355 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:42,330 and spoke to my parents and said, 356 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:43,660 "Hey..." 357 00:13:43,660 --> 00:13:44,630 [chuckles] 358 00:13:45,260 --> 00:13:47,200 "Katrina's getting too fat. 359 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,660 We already have a fat one. She can't be the fat one." 360 00:13:51,260 --> 00:13:54,400 They go, "Well, uh, she's a dancer. 361 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,160 She's in dance class, like, six hours a day. 362 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:58,530 There's nothing more we can do." 363 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:00,260 I mean... 364 00:14:00,860 --> 00:14:03,100 That stuck with me. 365 00:14:03,100 --> 00:14:05,000 "You can't be the fat one." Like... 366 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,100 I still hear those words in my head to this day. 367 00:14:09,100 --> 00:14:10,330 And it's funny because... 368 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,000 shortly after that call, 369 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,100 I went through puberty. 370 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:18,360 And then the producers freak out 371 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,200 because now I look like a woman 372 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,260 and I'm not little girlish anymore, 373 00:14:22,260 --> 00:14:24,560 so then that became an issue. 374 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,360 And then after that I'm sort of like... 375 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:28,830 edged out... 376 00:14:30,900 --> 00:14:34,000 by, like, a younger version of me. 377 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,800 Please welcome ten-year-old Amanda. 378 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,430 [audience applauding] 379 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,300 [Katrina] I remember one day I was at the Laugh Factory. 380 00:14:45,300 --> 00:14:48,000 It's a really famous comedy club on Sunset. 381 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,660 They would have workshops for kids. 382 00:14:50,660 --> 00:14:54,500 Couple of Nickelodeon people had gone to support Katrina. 383 00:14:54,500 --> 00:14:57,100 [Katrina] Brian Robbins and Dan Schneider came 384 00:14:57,100 --> 00:14:58,960 and I said, "You gotta check out this girl. 385 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:00,260 She's really amazing." 386 00:15:00,260 --> 00:15:02,400 And the girl was Amanda Bynes. 387 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,700 The other day, I got a pimple. 388 00:15:05,700 --> 00:15:08,260 I remember Amanda doing a routine 389 00:15:08,260 --> 00:15:11,760 about having a pimple that she couldn't pop 390 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,860 on the inside of her nose. 391 00:15:13,860 --> 00:15:15,900 I mean, what's the deal? 392 00:15:15,900 --> 00:15:18,160 Is God sitting up there in heaven 393 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,360 looking down at me and saying, 394 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,200 "I think I'll give her a challenge." 395 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,830 [audience laughing] 396 00:15:26,700 --> 00:15:27,830 [Katrina] And I remember thinking... 397 00:15:28,860 --> 00:15:30,360 "You're like ten. You do not have a pimple 398 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:31,460 on the inside of your nose." 399 00:15:31,460 --> 00:15:33,760 But that was a really kickass routine 400 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:34,730 and it was... 401 00:15:35,460 --> 00:15:36,860 pretty flawless. 402 00:15:36,860 --> 00:15:39,160 [Virgil] Dan saw her and, like, immediately... 403 00:15:40,260 --> 00:15:41,430 knew she'd be a star. 404 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:42,860 [Scaachi] Over the '90s, 405 00:15:42,860 --> 00:15:45,760 Dan's star is rising in Nickelodeon. 406 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,360 But what takes him to the next level 407 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,060 is when he discovers Amanda Bynes. 408 00:15:50,060 --> 00:15:52,100 And he recognizes her talent 409 00:15:52,100 --> 00:15:54,160 and he wants her in All That immediately. 410 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,960 -[audience laughing] -Hi, hi, everyone. It's me, Amanda. 411 00:15:57,900 --> 00:16:01,560 Amanda was absolutely natural. 412 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,430 Her timing was impeccable. 413 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,160 Uh, very physical. 414 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,360 Then my bully kicked on me at school. 415 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,100 I discovered that music could be used as self-defense. 416 00:16:10,100 --> 00:16:12,160 -[audience laughing] -Oh, well, how? 417 00:16:12,300 --> 00:16:13,260 Hmm? 418 00:16:14,100 --> 00:16:16,200 [audience laughing, applauding] 419 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,400 [Leon] We had to go to school on set. 420 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:19,830 I mean, I was allowed to go to school. 421 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,400 -[woman] How many hours? -Three. 422 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:22,560 -[woman] Three? -A day. 423 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:23,760 -[woman] Can you share what-- -Go talk to the teacher. 424 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,060 [woman] Okay. 425 00:16:25,060 --> 00:16:27,060 [Leon] And so there would be times 426 00:16:27,060 --> 00:16:28,730 where Amanda would just be missing. 427 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:33,260 And a lot of times we would just hear 428 00:16:33,260 --> 00:16:35,700 that she would be with Dan, 429 00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:38,230 pitching ideas and writing. 430 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,800 We've seen them grow closer 431 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,630 -to each other on set. -[Leon's mom] So, uh... 432 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,760 Leon is the man. 433 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,100 See what we're doing here, um... 434 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:50,300 [Katrina] The law was that a parent or guardian 435 00:16:50,300 --> 00:16:53,000 had to be with us at all times. 436 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000 Parents on All That... 437 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,400 I would say they tried to stay out the way. 438 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,000 Okay, guys. Ready for ya. 439 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,960 [Leon] With us all being, uh, novices... 440 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,560 With some of us, this was out first job. 441 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,660 It was just in our best interest 442 00:17:06,660 --> 00:17:08,960 to kind of go with the flow. 443 00:17:09,300 --> 00:17:10,400 But... 444 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,960 Amanda Bynes' parents were very hands on 445 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,000 with her career. 446 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,460 Um, specifically her dad. 447 00:17:16,460 --> 00:17:19,300 [Katrina] I think Amanda's dad kind of treated her 448 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:21,930 like a wind-up doll, like, she had... 449 00:17:23,300 --> 00:17:27,660 really a lot of pressure and high expectations from him. 450 00:17:27,660 --> 00:17:28,700 -[Leon's mom] Say, "Hands up." -[Leon] Hands up. 451 00:17:28,700 --> 00:17:29,830 [Leon's mom] Say, "Kids, hands up." 452 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,000 [Leon] His presence was always felt. 453 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,500 A big part of that was his relationship 454 00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:36,930 with Dan Schneider. 455 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:41,130 They carefully crafted Amanda's career. 456 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:45,360 It was enviable for a lot of the cast members. 457 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:47,660 When Amanda joined the show... 458 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,800 Oh, I had less and less and less 459 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,530 and then no time with Dan. 460 00:17:57,100 --> 00:17:58,400 So... 461 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,260 the new favorite had arrived. I was out. 462 00:18:08,060 --> 00:18:09,160 So I felt 463 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,060 now I don't need to do this anymore, I can just... 464 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:12,360 go to college. 465 00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:14,060 So I did. 466 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:17,160 And then maybe a year later... 467 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,200 someone told me, 468 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,260 "Oh, have you seen The Amanda Bynes Show?" 469 00:18:23,060 --> 00:18:25,030 And I was like, "What? 470 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:27,860 That makes sense." 471 00:18:27,860 --> 00:18:30,100 [all chanting] Amanda! Amanda! 472 00:18:30,100 --> 00:18:33,360 [Scaachi] Amanda Bynes' physical comedy really shines 473 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:35,400 in that first episode. 474 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,760 -Hey, it's Amanda! -[Scaachi] And it was her big break, 475 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,530 and it was Dan Schneider's big break. 476 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,900 [theme song playing] 477 00:18:42,900 --> 00:18:44,160 [Scaachi] And this is actually the first time 478 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,160 that Dan Schneider's name is listed as a creator. 479 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,560 This gave him a whole new level 480 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,100 of control and power 481 00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:52,430 and there would be consequences to that later on. 482 00:18:52,860 --> 00:18:55,160 -Hey! Look at you. -Oh! 483 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,500 -[Dan] I like your outfit. -Good to see you. Yeah, I like yours too. 484 00:18:57,500 --> 00:18:59,960 Dan Schneider's decision to have Amanda... 485 00:19:00,460 --> 00:19:02,560 be the star of the show... 486 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,560 is forward thinking is a lot of ways. 487 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,060 A lot of adult female comedians do not... 488 00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:08,460 get their own shows 489 00:19:08,460 --> 00:19:10,860 without jumping through a million hoops. 490 00:19:10,860 --> 00:19:14,260 There's usually two roles that girls occupy in Hollywood. 491 00:19:14,260 --> 00:19:17,200 One is super innocent, really sweet. 492 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,000 Like Shirley Temple, cute, young. 493 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,630 And then the other side is... 494 00:19:22,660 --> 00:19:26,460 Hypersexualized, built for male consumption. 495 00:19:28,260 --> 00:19:30,600 Amanda Bynes was like a new deviation 496 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,460 as a young actress in Hollywood. 497 00:19:34,460 --> 00:19:35,760 And I hereby sentence you 498 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,800 to be chased by an unpredictable man 499 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:38,900 in a gorilla suit! 500 00:19:38,900 --> 00:19:41,360 Really personality driven. Really funny. 501 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:43,500 -[audience applauding] -Get that done! 502 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:46,260 For Amanda it's a spotlight on her comedic talent, 503 00:19:46,260 --> 00:19:48,760 which is something that is kind of rare to see. 504 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,900 -[all laughing] -Ah, that's good. 505 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:54,560 You would think that for this kind of 506 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,600 strong female lead to be celebrated, 507 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,660 you would have a lot of women behind the scenes. 508 00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:00,660 In reality... 509 00:20:00,660 --> 00:20:02,400 female writers on The Amanda Show 510 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,160 told us that this experience 511 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,660 was really one of the most disturbing 512 00:20:06,660 --> 00:20:08,460 in their careers. 513 00:20:08,460 --> 00:20:13,760 Working for Dan was like being in an abusive relationship. 514 00:20:24,860 --> 00:20:26,000 [Christy] At the time, 515 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,860 there weren't a lot of positions for women 516 00:20:28,860 --> 00:20:30,200 in sketch comedy. 517 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,160 It was very hard to navigate 518 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,260 when you knew the opportunities 519 00:20:35,260 --> 00:20:37,360 for women were fewer. 520 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:41,600 You knew you were going in for the one spot. 521 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,960 This was way back in 1999. 522 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,400 There were forums where people would talk about writing 523 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,700 and it was in one of those groups, 524 00:20:48,700 --> 00:20:50,530 a television-comedy writing group. 525 00:20:51,460 --> 00:20:53,000 Dan Schneider was in that group 526 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,100 and he had said that he was working on this new 527 00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:56,360 television show for Nickelodeon. 528 00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:58,960 So I just took a shot and I asked him 529 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,360 if he would read my work. 530 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:02,560 And the story that he told me later 531 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,560 was that Dan gave them to his Writer's Assistant 532 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,160 and said, you know, "Read through these 533 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,600 and rate them funniest on top." 534 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,800 He was surprised to find that mine was on top 535 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,100 and that's what prompted him to call me. 536 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:16,660 [telephone ringing] 537 00:21:16,660 --> 00:21:19,660 I was actually sitting at my desk at work... 538 00:21:19,660 --> 00:21:20,700 [telephone ringing] 539 00:21:20,700 --> 00:21:22,360 ...when the producers called me 540 00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:24,600 and told me that, you know, 541 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,360 "Congratulations, we're offering you 542 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:28,660 a Staff Writer position on The Amanda Show." 543 00:21:28,660 --> 00:21:30,000 This was, like, a dream come true. 544 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,000 I had been in LA for seven years 545 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,660 and so it felt very satisfying 546 00:21:36,660 --> 00:21:40,730 that, um, someone was gonna pay me 547 00:21:41,060 --> 00:21:43,000 to write comedy. 548 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,560 [telephone ringing] 549 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,500 I remember speaking to the line producer 550 00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:50,400 and she said that I was going to have to 551 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,600 split a salary with a writer that I did not know. 552 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,200 So they were getting two for the price of one. 553 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,900 They were going to hire two woman 554 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:00,700 and have them share a salary. 555 00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:02,860 And I never saw it happen to any of the men. 556 00:22:02,860 --> 00:22:07,360 I was like, "Well, I'm excited, I get to stop temping." 557 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:08,500 This was my dream job. 558 00:22:08,500 --> 00:22:09,660 I mean, this is what I wanted. 559 00:22:09,660 --> 00:22:11,530 This is what I worked so hard for. 560 00:22:12,260 --> 00:22:14,200 I'm not about to turn it down. 561 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,200 I thought to myself, "Don't be a complainer. 562 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,530 You know, do whatever you have to do to get this job." 563 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,660 [Christy] I remember the early days being a lot of fun. 564 00:22:26,660 --> 00:22:30,400 We were on the Paramount lot, which was very exciting. 565 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,760 To get to walk around, 566 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,030 it felt like, you know, Hollywood. 567 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,100 [Jenny] My first week on the job, 568 00:22:36,100 --> 00:22:38,060 I got to meet my writing partner. 569 00:22:38,060 --> 00:22:40,160 Christy's very easy to get along with. 570 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,160 I mean, I liked her immediately. 571 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,660 [Christy] She was nice and fun 572 00:22:43,660 --> 00:22:46,400 and those early days were great! 573 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,430 They were great. 574 00:22:48,660 --> 00:22:51,300 It was early on, when we first started, 575 00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:54,830 that Dan said he didn't think women were funny. 576 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,460 [Jenny] He said women can't write funny. 577 00:22:57,460 --> 00:23:00,760 He challenged us to name a funny female writer. 578 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:01,800 And he said this 579 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,060 to the writers in the writers' room. 580 00:23:04,060 --> 00:23:07,300 And that was my first indication of trouble. 581 00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:10,160 That maybe this guy didn't really value women in the writers' room. 582 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,760 And later he had said that, 583 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,600 "Hey, do you mind that I refer to you and Christy as the girls? 584 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,760 Are the girls in the room? Where are the girls?" 585 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,460 And we both were, like, "No." 586 00:23:19,460 --> 00:23:22,560 And he said, "Oh, good. Because I can't stand girls 587 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,060 that are uptight about things like that." 588 00:23:25,060 --> 00:23:29,100 And when he said that, I knew that next time 589 00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:30,760 this guy asks me if I mind something, 590 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,460 there's a right and wrong answer. 591 00:23:32,460 --> 00:23:34,130 And thank God I answered right. 592 00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:38,660 [Christy] Dan ran the writers' room. 593 00:23:38,660 --> 00:23:42,300 He was there anytime we were doing any work 594 00:23:42,300 --> 00:23:45,360 and he was very playful. 595 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,760 We would laugh and joke around 596 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,160 and being dirty was part of the silliness. 597 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,800 Hello, citizens. My name is Penelope Taynt. 598 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,800 So Penelope Taynt, 599 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,700 um, is a character that Dan created. 600 00:23:59,700 --> 00:24:02,060 -My name is Penelope Taynt. -Yeah, I know. 601 00:24:02,060 --> 00:24:04,500 [Jenny] He came up with the name Penelope Taynt. 602 00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:06,060 The taint is the part of the body 603 00:24:06,060 --> 00:24:07,860 that's between the penis and the anus. 604 00:24:07,860 --> 00:24:10,000 It's that skin there, that's the taint. 605 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,160 And Dan had said to us in the writers' room, 606 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,160 "Don't tell what this word really means." 607 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,860 He wanted us to keep that a secret. 608 00:24:16,860 --> 00:24:19,360 I remember someone from Nickelodeon 609 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:20,700 sitting with us and saying like, 610 00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:24,260 "Oh, does this mean, you know, this dirty thing?" 611 00:24:24,260 --> 00:24:28,160 And Dan was like, "No. Why would you think that's, like, tainted? 612 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,660 Like you've tainted something." 613 00:24:29,660 --> 00:24:30,930 And they were like, "Okay." 614 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,530 Man, that is power. 615 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,700 That is power. 616 00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:37,800 That you can just say you want something 617 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,330 and it's done. 618 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,360 That's what I thought. 619 00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:43,660 So, it got on the show 620 00:24:43,660 --> 00:24:45,800 and it's one of those things where it's like, "Ooh." 621 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,160 You know, like, "Eh." 622 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,460 It's a young girl. 623 00:24:49,460 --> 00:24:52,400 And bless Amanda and bless The Amanda Show. 624 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,460 [Scaachi] In one scene, you know, she's praying 625 00:24:55,460 --> 00:24:56,760 on a twin bed. 626 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,260 There's something so slimy about connecting this, like, 627 00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:03,560 sexualized genitalia joke 628 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,200 with a little girl who's portraying a little girl too. 629 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,700 It was clear that there was a permissibility 630 00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:14,500 around these sexualized jokes with children. 631 00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:16,000 [Jenny] It was par for the course. 632 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,500 Like, strange things amused Dan 633 00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:20,530 and that was just one of the things he thought was funny. 634 00:25:21,460 --> 00:25:24,060 He liked to play pranks and jokes, 635 00:25:24,060 --> 00:25:27,560 which at first seemed fun. 636 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,230 [Jenny] In the beginning, I would see, you know, an instant message pop up. 637 00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:33,260 Dan would send a message 638 00:25:33,260 --> 00:25:35,060 for you to say out loud. 639 00:25:35,060 --> 00:25:36,530 Scream "hammers." 640 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,200 And you scream it. 641 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,400 And then it would be more degrading, like, 642 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,730 scream, "I'm an idiot," 643 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,600 or "slut." 644 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,560 And if you didn't, he would send you the message again, 645 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,760 caps, exclamation points, 646 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,260 he would scream out, "Say it." until you did. 647 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,460 [Christy] One time Dan said, 648 00:25:56,460 --> 00:26:01,800 "I'll give you $300 to eat two pints of ice cream in 30 minutes." 649 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,100 And I'm like, "Yeah." 650 00:26:03,100 --> 00:26:05,860 I've got no money, I've got half a salary, 651 00:26:05,860 --> 00:26:09,230 I will absolutely eat two pints of ice cream in 30 minutes. 652 00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:11,160 And I did, 653 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,030 and I was throwing up afterwards but it was fine. 654 00:26:15,260 --> 00:26:16,700 Then the money didn't come 655 00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:18,900 and I knew he must've forgotten about it. 656 00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:20,760 -So one day he said... -[fly buzzing] 657 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,660 ..."Somebody kill that fly for $30." 658 00:26:22,660 --> 00:26:24,660 And I go, "Should I add it to your tab?" 659 00:26:26,860 --> 00:26:29,000 Dan took me into his office 660 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,360 and he said, "How dare you accuse me of not making good on my bets?" 661 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:36,800 And I was like, "No, no, no, no. I was, I was just kinda kidding around." 662 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:42,160 He had, um, fostered this very casual, fun atmosphere, 663 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,360 but I felt that Dan could be very volatile 664 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:49,430 and could turn any moment. 665 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,960 I was... I was scared. 666 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,560 [audience cheering] 667 00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:06,860 [Kate] In a lot of ways, Nickelodeon was creating this 668 00:27:06,860 --> 00:27:08,760 culture where it was a mini Hollywood. 669 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,100 Like a Hollywood for kids 670 00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:12,660 where all these actors are kind of competing for the same roles, 671 00:27:12,660 --> 00:27:13,760 they all know each other 672 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,600 and they are in their own little ecosystem. 673 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,000 -[interviewer] Are you nominated? -Yes. 674 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,160 How do you feel about that? 675 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,560 Um, it's real exciting. 676 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,760 I'm honored to be nominated. 677 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,900 I don't think I'm gonna win, but it's still cool. 678 00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:25,760 Something that epitomizes that really well 679 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,900 is the Kids' Choice Awards, 680 00:27:26,900 --> 00:27:30,460 which is almost like the kids' version of the Oscars. 681 00:27:31,460 --> 00:27:35,500 [presenter] And the Kids' Choice is Amanda Bynes! 682 00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:38,100 [Kate] Amanda Bynes gets the Kids' Choice Awards. 683 00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:40,000 She was hugely successful 684 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,160 and was becoming one of these massive, massive A-list stars. 685 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,660 Thank you all! Oh, my God! This is so exciting! 686 00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:51,860 Okay. I want to say thank you to Nickelodeon, Brian Robbins, Dan Schneider. 687 00:27:51,860 --> 00:27:54,360 The Amanda Show is on Nickelodeon. 688 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:56,800 [Scaachi] She was giving interviews, she was on talk shows, 689 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,900 she was everywhere. 690 00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:01,400 Dan Schneider was very responsible 691 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,500 for Amanda Bynes' career at that point 692 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:05,860 and they were very tied to each other 693 00:28:05,860 --> 00:28:07,560 and I think she trusted him. 694 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,760 My name is Raquel Lee Bolleau 695 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,260 and I was on the first season of The Amanda Show. 696 00:28:13,260 --> 00:28:14,360 Mrs. Shane... 697 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,100 The Amanda Show was huge. It was huge! 698 00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:21,460 We had fans coming and wanting to, like, see us every episode. 699 00:28:21,460 --> 00:28:26,260 As a 12-year-old girl, I was over the moon. 700 00:28:26,260 --> 00:28:28,160 I was so excited. 701 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,760 We'd be out and people would say, 702 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,660 "Oh, my goodness. You're that girl on The Amanda Show." 703 00:28:32,660 --> 00:28:34,260 It was a pretty big show. 704 00:28:34,260 --> 00:28:37,230 [Raquel] There was Amanda, of course, and there was me and Drake. 705 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,460 Him and I were so silly on this show. 706 00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:44,560 Amanda was the star. 707 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:50,660 So, I think we both knew that we weren't the stars of the show very early on. 708 00:28:50,660 --> 00:28:51,960 [Drake] She's the star so she gets 709 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,630 the extra, extra handy-dandy equipment. 710 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,260 On The Amanda Show, Dan is the king maker. 711 00:28:58,260 --> 00:29:01,160 He is the one who is deciding who gets a spin-off, 712 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,260 who gets the most lines. 713 00:29:03,260 --> 00:29:05,160 If you are on Dan's bad side, 714 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,560 you kind of could kiss your career goodbye. 715 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,900 You wanted Dan to like you 716 00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:10,760 'cause if he didn't, he was mean to you. 717 00:29:11,460 --> 00:29:12,860 It's my 13th birthday. 718 00:29:12,860 --> 00:29:15,700 People brought me this big, big cake, 719 00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:17,060 like, a massive cake. 720 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,600 It was great to be able to share the cake 721 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,560 with the whole crew and everyone else, 722 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,600 but it was told to me, "Dan's really upset." 723 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,760 Like, "Why did you get her that cake?" 724 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,100 Like, "That's a big cake. 725 00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:30,760 She didn't need that big of a cake." 726 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,130 And I was just like... 727 00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:35,060 And I really... I felt it. 728 00:29:37,460 --> 00:29:39,560 Of course, as a parent you want to speak up, 729 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,260 but then I just didn't want Raquel to face any backlash 730 00:29:43,260 --> 00:29:46,730 for any behaviors that I had, uh, done. 731 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,460 I remember Raquel saying to me 732 00:29:49,460 --> 00:29:51,800 she felt that he may have favored, 733 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,560 uh, Drake and Amanda more than her. 734 00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:01,100 I remember Dan and Amanda Bynes being very close on The Amanda Show 735 00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:04,860 and I think very few people made Dan laugh. 736 00:30:05,660 --> 00:30:08,760 You know, and I think she did. 737 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,860 In rehearsal, she would say funny things 738 00:30:11,860 --> 00:30:13,260 and do funny things. 739 00:30:13,260 --> 00:30:17,100 [Amanda] Uh, yes, this is your doctor. Yes, Doctor... 740 00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:19,230 -[Dan babbling] -[Amanda babbling] 741 00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:23,360 [Karyn] I definitely saw Amanda 742 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,860 being very close physically with Dan. 743 00:30:26,860 --> 00:30:30,100 There were many times that I saw Amanda 744 00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:31,900 sitting behind him, hugging him 745 00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:36,560 or giving him, like, a neck massage or whatever. 746 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,360 Dan and Amanda had a close relationship 747 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,400 and I didn't think anything different than that. 748 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,500 The hot tub scene, 749 00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:47,700 though, I thought was always a little odd. 750 00:30:47,700 --> 00:30:50,000 I am the executive producer and I'm the headliner. 751 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,360 You actually wrote the words 752 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,800 we're saying to each other right now. 753 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,760 Uh, yes. 754 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,500 When you watch the video, it's Amanda Bynes, 755 00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:58,700 clearly very young, wearing a swimsuit 756 00:30:58,700 --> 00:30:59,760 in a hot tub 757 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,160 and next to her is Dan Schneider 758 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:03,630 fully clothed. 759 00:31:04,660 --> 00:31:06,260 And he's kinda saying, 760 00:31:06,260 --> 00:31:08,260 I created this situation. 761 00:31:08,260 --> 00:31:10,200 I am the reason we are in this hot tub. 762 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,660 I am pulling the strings. 763 00:31:11,660 --> 00:31:13,200 Now since you're the executive producer 764 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,960 of the show, can I have a raise? 765 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:16,860 No. 766 00:31:16,860 --> 00:31:19,660 Maybe at the time people viewed it as comedy, 767 00:31:19,660 --> 00:31:21,360 but I think now some people 768 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,860 are very uncomfortable with the implication. 769 00:31:23,860 --> 00:31:25,660 [Kate] For me, looking back at The Amanda Show 770 00:31:25,660 --> 00:31:29,000 is really a kinda sad and strange experience. 771 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,760 Knowing that as years went on 772 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,860 Amanda and Dan's relationship 773 00:31:31,860 --> 00:31:34,460 would take a turn for the worse. 774 00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:36,560 It is also bittersweet to watch knowing 775 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,960 what the women were dealing with behind the scenes. 776 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,060 He became a worse and worse person to work for. 777 00:31:42,660 --> 00:31:45,160 [Jenny] Dan called me at home 778 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,860 and he asked me if I was conspiring against the company. 779 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,760 He said, "If I find out that you did, 780 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,560 you're never gonna work for Nickelodeon again." 781 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,300 [Jenny] Dan got worse and worse as the season got on. 782 00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:04,500 And because I was a first-time writer, 783 00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:07,460 I didn't know what was acceptable and not acceptable. 784 00:32:07,460 --> 00:32:11,130 And so Christy and I both did things that were uncomfortable. 785 00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:16,860 Dan was showing pornography on his computer screen. 786 00:32:16,860 --> 00:32:18,000 He'd asked me several times 787 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,660 to massage him in the writers' room 788 00:32:19,660 --> 00:32:21,100 and in the studio. 789 00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:24,000 And he would say things sometimes, like, 790 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,260 "Uh, can you please give me a massage? 791 00:32:26,260 --> 00:32:28,360 I'll put one of your sketches in the show." 792 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,100 And he would always present it like a joke, you know? 793 00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:34,560 And he would be laughing while he said it, um, but... 794 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,000 You always felt like disagreeing with Dan 795 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,160 or saying... Or standing up for yourself 796 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,530 could result in you getting fired. 797 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,000 One of the worst one was, was we were in the writers' room 798 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,160 and Christy was talking about high school, 799 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,200 which is relevant because 800 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,060 we're writing for a young girl, 801 00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:56,560 and Dan was just... said, "You know what would be funny? 802 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,760 If you leaned over the table 803 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,460 and acted like you were being sodomized 804 00:33:01,460 --> 00:33:03,730 and told that story about high school." 805 00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:07,760 She said no at first 806 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,860 and then he was kind of like, "Oh, come on, come on. It'd be so funny. Just do it. 807 00:33:10,860 --> 00:33:11,760 It'd be so funny." 808 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,860 And everyone was kind of laughing too 809 00:33:13,860 --> 00:33:16,000 'cause he's making it, like, this big joke. 810 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,260 She couldn't get out of it. 811 00:33:17,260 --> 00:33:18,530 You know, he's begging her. 812 00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:23,060 So she just leaned over the table and did 813 00:33:23,060 --> 00:33:24,560 what he asked her to do. 814 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,600 [producer] Do you remember Dan asking you 815 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,760 to, um, act out being sodomized? 816 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,500 Ah, I'd rather not. 817 00:33:32,500 --> 00:33:33,560 [laughs embarrassedly] 818 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:34,930 I'd rather not. I... 819 00:33:35,860 --> 00:33:38,000 I don't wanna talk about that. [laughs] 820 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,100 I mean, it's not that I'm not, 821 00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,200 like, I'm not proud of it 822 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,630 and I'm also, like, ugh... 823 00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:43,860 Thinking about it now, 824 00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:45,760 yeah, it's like... 825 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,760 Oh, boy. I just think of that 826 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,160 poor girl and what she had to, you know, go through. 827 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,930 Um, yeah. 828 00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:58,060 And I would not do that today, 829 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,860 but I did it then. 830 00:34:00,860 --> 00:34:03,600 Um, it was upsetting to watch 831 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,100 because you know... I know, I knew Christy at this point 832 00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:09,260 and I didn't feel at all comfortable 833 00:34:09,860 --> 00:34:12,260 complaining to him about 834 00:34:12,260 --> 00:34:16,160 anything that might make him feel like, "Ugh, there's a girl in the room. 835 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,100 She's killing the vibe." 836 00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:19,000 You don't want to be viewed 837 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,760 as the person that can't take a joke. 838 00:34:22,460 --> 00:34:24,060 It was probably the wrongest thing 839 00:34:24,060 --> 00:34:25,460 I've ever seen happen to a woman in 840 00:34:25,460 --> 00:34:27,060 a professional environment ever. 841 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,600 And then all of a sudden I had heard about mid-season, 842 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,200 um, that having the writers split their salary 843 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,160 was against the rules for the show. 844 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,660 So I called the Writers Guild to ask them if that was true. 845 00:34:41,660 --> 00:34:43,960 Can, can there be teams on this show and they said no. 846 00:34:45,700 --> 00:34:47,000 [Christy] Jenny told me this 847 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,000 and I was going, like, "Wow. 848 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,160 They were trying to pull a fast one." 849 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,760 [Jenny] Dan called me at home 850 00:34:58,860 --> 00:35:01,460 and he asked me if I was 851 00:35:01,460 --> 00:35:03,460 conspiring against the company. 852 00:35:04,860 --> 00:35:07,500 He had found out that the guild was now 853 00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:10,660 requiring him to pay for our separate salaries 854 00:35:10,660 --> 00:35:12,760 and he wanted to know if... 855 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,660 if I was the one that made that happen. 856 00:35:14,660 --> 00:35:16,460 "'Cause if I find out that you did, 857 00:35:16,460 --> 00:35:18,560 you're never gonna work for Nickelodeon again 858 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,660 or for any Viacom project." 859 00:35:20,660 --> 00:35:24,560 I was terrified 'cause I'd never seen him quite that scary before 860 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,360 and also, you know, angry too. 861 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,460 He had gotten caught doing something ethically wrong 862 00:35:32,460 --> 00:35:35,600 and said, "If I find out you told on me, 863 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,600 I'm going to do something even worse to you. 864 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:39,860 You're not gonna work again." 865 00:35:42,260 --> 00:35:46,530 [Virgil] I think things started to change with Dan. 866 00:35:47,460 --> 00:35:49,130 You could feel his presence. 867 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,730 When he walked on the set, the crew could feel it. 868 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,800 He wasn't the happy guy making jokes anymore. 869 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,260 There was a few times when he came down 870 00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:03,660 that he lit everybody up. 871 00:36:04,260 --> 00:36:05,700 [Raquel] Dan yelled a lot. 872 00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:07,360 Dan was like a tornado. 873 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,360 He'd come in and, like, phew... 874 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,560 You'd be like, "Wow. Okay. What just happened?" 875 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,460 Dan showed up. 876 00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:17,560 The set would not feel the same when, when he would leave 877 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,860 because, you know, I think 878 00:36:19,860 --> 00:36:23,160 because everybody was on their toes, scared. 879 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,560 [Jenny] He could literally be nice 880 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,000 and then mean and then nice 881 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,760 and then mean, like, throughout the day. 882 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,000 So one minute I'm like, 883 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,100 "I've got Dan wrong. He's really nice. He's supportive." 884 00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:34,060 and then, like, an hour later I could be like, 885 00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:36,060 "This guy is scary as hell." 886 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,460 We were all feeling, near the end, paranoid, 887 00:36:43,460 --> 00:36:46,400 uncomfortable, um... 888 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,160 It was just a bad... it was just a bad vibe. 889 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,060 We all felt like, you know, the axe could drop at any moment. 890 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,860 It was our last week of work 891 00:36:58,860 --> 00:37:01,460 for Season 1 of The Amanda Show. 892 00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:05,600 I had this meeting at my manager's office 893 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,930 and, uh, by the time I got in my car to go back to the office, 894 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,660 I had been fired. 895 00:37:13,660 --> 00:37:16,100 [Jenny] Dan, basically, owned all of your time. 896 00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:18,500 Your weekends, after work, 897 00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:23,300 and Christy had done two personal things during the season, like, 898 00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:26,360 she had gone to a concert on the weekend 899 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,660 and she had friends over one night 900 00:37:28,660 --> 00:37:32,560 and she basically got fired for that. 901 00:37:33,860 --> 00:37:37,400 [Christy] It just felt very vindictive that, um, 902 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:42,160 it was three days, three more days of, of, of being paid. 903 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,030 So I went back to temping and I had nothing. 904 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,460 [Jenny] I went down to the studio to meet with Dan 905 00:37:52,460 --> 00:37:55,060 about Season 2. He said, "Here's the deal. 906 00:37:55,060 --> 00:37:57,560 We're bringing you back for Season 2, staff writer. 907 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,100 We're offering you a 16-week contract, 908 00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:02,000 but you need to work the whole season." 909 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,400 Which was, I believe, 27 weeks. 910 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,000 He was telling me I had to work 11 weeks for free 911 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,330 and I was devastated. 912 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,000 'Cause I'd proven myself. 913 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,700 I'd written well, I'd paid my dues 914 00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:14,930 and he said, This is all the money that we have." 915 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,660 And then, meanwhile, he hired a white male 916 00:38:17,660 --> 00:38:19,300 at full salary. 917 00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:21,560 No credits, you know, first job 918 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,100 but he's asking me, 919 00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:24,900 second season on the same show, 920 00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:26,530 "You have to work 11 weeks for free." 921 00:38:32,460 --> 00:38:34,860 I lasted four days in Season 2. 922 00:38:37,260 --> 00:38:39,000 Dan gave us this assignment, 923 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,700 asked all the male writers into his office, 924 00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:42,730 and left me out, 925 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,260 and then he called me in 926 00:38:45,260 --> 00:38:47,100 and all the men were standing 927 00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:49,460 and Dan was behind his desk. 928 00:38:49,460 --> 00:38:52,630 And he said, "Okay, pitch your idea." 929 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,060 I pitched my idea 930 00:38:56,460 --> 00:38:58,100 and he said, 931 00:38:58,100 --> 00:38:59,630 "Didn't you used to do phone sex?" 932 00:39:01,260 --> 00:39:03,360 Just like that, like, out of nowhere. 933 00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:05,160 I was like, "No, Dan." 934 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,200 And he goes like, "Didn't you tell us? 935 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,560 Didn't you say that last season, 936 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,460 that you used to have a job like that, something like that?" 937 00:39:10,660 --> 00:39:11,900 No. 938 00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:13,060 I was destroyed. 939 00:39:13,060 --> 00:39:15,000 I went outside, I was crying. 940 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,200 I can't do this. 941 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,360 So, I did. I went home and I quit. 942 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,560 [laughs sadly] 943 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,960 And it was so devastating. 944 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,460 It was so hard to let go of that job but... 945 00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:24,560 [sighs wearily] 946 00:39:25,460 --> 00:39:26,760 I mean, I just couldn't do it anymore. 947 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,800 There's no way I was gonna be the only woman 948 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,230 in that [bleep] world with him. No way. 949 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,630 [Christy] I was at my temping job. 950 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,000 I get a call from Jenny, 951 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,260 "I'm suing Dan." 952 00:39:48,260 --> 00:39:49,460 [laughs] 953 00:39:49,460 --> 00:39:51,430 And I remember thinking... 954 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,160 Like, it just took me by surprise 955 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,900 because we were all afraid. 956 00:39:55,900 --> 00:39:59,860 We are all afraid. That's why just me and Jenny are talking to you. 957 00:39:59,860 --> 00:40:02,800 Like, people are afraid of him. 958 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,100 The reason I did it was because 959 00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,700 I didn't want this to be happening to other women in the future. 960 00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:13,460 She said, "Hey, um, can, can you write a letter on my behalf?" 961 00:40:13,460 --> 00:40:15,430 And I said, "Of course, I will." 962 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,900 And so then I hired... 963 00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:21,830 I hired a lawyer and started blowing whistles. 964 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,560 So my lawyer filed complaints 965 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,100 against the production company 966 00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,700 for gender discrimination, 967 00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:35,160 hostile work environment, harassment... 968 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,100 Yeah, and in response 969 00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:39,160 they did an internal investigation 970 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:40,860 and they settled, 971 00:40:40,860 --> 00:40:43,630 but it had a lasting impact on my career. 972 00:40:44,060 --> 00:40:45,200 I mean, I knew that. 973 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,100 I knew that this was the end of my career, 974 00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:48,560 so it had better be worth it. 975 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,800 Like, it had better stop. 976 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,630 And to learn that it didn't stop? 977 00:40:54,060 --> 00:40:55,330 That it was all for nothing? 978 00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:02,660 The Amanda Show was Dan Schneider's first show 979 00:41:02,660 --> 00:41:03,660 and he had a complaint 980 00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:05,200 against him for gender discrimination 981 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,160 and creating a toxic work place, 982 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,860 on his first big show that he did. 983 00:41:09,860 --> 00:41:12,300 So a lot of the seeds of the issues that we see 984 00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:13,800 throughout Dan Schneider's empire, 985 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,200 were there from the beginning. 986 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,360 How safe can any kids be in that environment 987 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,000 if that's how the adult women 988 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000 are being treated behind the scenes? 989 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,530 [gurgling, squealing] 990 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,760 [Scaachi] And on Dan's shows there was always this, 991 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,460 kind of, murkiness in what was appropriate 992 00:41:29,460 --> 00:41:31,300 and what was inappropriate. 993 00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:32,900 I don't like this. 994 00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:35,760 [Scaachi] But there would be even bigger problems down the line 995 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,530 with actual pedophiles on set. 996 00:41:41,300 --> 00:41:44,760 [reporter] Van Nuys division officers have arrested a suspected child predator 997 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,800 charged with kissing 998 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,000 and touching a nine-year-old girl, 999 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,330 but officers believe there may be more victims. 1000 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,700 [somber music playing] 78945

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