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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:42,757 --> 00:00:44,341 Ella, I know you wanna say it. 2 00:00:44,467 --> 00:00:45,676 Go ahead. 3 00:00:45,801 --> 00:00:47,178 I'm not gonna say it. 4 00:00:47,303 --> 00:00:48,095 But you wanna? 5 00:00:48,220 --> 00:00:49,096 Yeah, I do. 6 00:00:49,221 --> 00:00:50,514 I know. Go ahead. 7 00:00:50,639 --> 00:00:51,974 I told you so. 8 00:00:52,099 --> 00:00:53,851 See? Always with the "I told you so." 9 00:00:53,976 --> 00:00:56,353 'Cause I told you so! 10 00:00:56,479 --> 00:00:58,272 You's right this time. 11 00:00:58,397 --> 00:00:59,690 Uh, what you mean, "this time"? 12 00:00:59,815 --> 00:01:01,525 I'm always right. 13 00:01:01,650 --> 00:01:03,486 Aight, aight, I got you. Calm down, calm down. 14 00:01:03,611 --> 00:01:05,279 Aight, so get your little candy or whatever. 15 00:01:05,404 --> 00:01:07,114 - And call me back. - Aight. 16 00:01:11,660 --> 00:01:12,495 Hey. 17 00:01:17,500 --> 00:01:19,126 3.50. 18 00:01:45,861 --> 00:01:47,404 Like, I don't know, some... 19 00:01:47,530 --> 00:01:49,240 Oh, oh, oh... You know, like, breakfast. 20 00:01:49,365 --> 00:01:51,033 - Okay, breakfast. - I like me some eggs... 21 00:01:51,158 --> 00:01:53,202 You like grits, berries. I got you. 22 00:01:53,327 --> 00:01:55,663 You got me? I don't know if I want... You like berries? 23 00:01:55,788 --> 00:01:57,248 What, you be eating berries with pancakes? 24 00:01:57,373 --> 00:01:58,624 Yeah, I eat berries with pancakes. 25 00:01:58,749 --> 00:02:00,459 Like blueberry pancakes. They're so bomb. 26 00:02:00,584 --> 00:02:02,253 See, okay, okay. We've gotta have fun. 27 00:02:02,378 --> 00:02:04,046 We gotta do our own thing. I feel like... 28 00:02:04,171 --> 00:02:06,257 We gotta do our own thing. It's gonna be amazing. 29 00:02:06,382 --> 00:02:07,424 I'm really excited... 30 00:02:15,808 --> 00:02:17,393 - Tray? - Hey, I think... 31 00:02:17,518 --> 00:02:19,812 I think this car's following me. 32 00:02:19,937 --> 00:02:22,231 What? For real? 33 00:02:22,356 --> 00:02:24,275 It keeps looping around the block. 34 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,404 Dang. Try goin' another way. 35 00:02:28,529 --> 00:02:29,905 Call me when you get home, okay? 36 00:02:30,030 --> 00:02:30,990 All right. 37 00:03:00,519 --> 00:03:01,645 Mama? 38 00:03:10,863 --> 00:03:12,072 Mama? 39 00:03:16,452 --> 00:03:17,912 Afternoon. 40 00:03:21,624 --> 00:03:28,005 Afternoon. Are you sleeping or kinda? 41 00:03:28,130 --> 00:03:29,256 Kinda. 42 00:03:32,468 --> 00:03:34,053 Hey, Sleeping Beauty. 43 00:03:37,014 --> 00:03:39,808 - Hello. - Hey. Hi. Hi. 44 00:03:43,270 --> 00:03:46,231 Want to sit up? Sit up. 45 00:03:46,357 --> 00:03:48,734 There you go. All right. 46 00:03:48,859 --> 00:03:50,319 Come on, one more time. 47 00:03:50,444 --> 00:03:52,696 - That's good. That's good. - Okay. 48 00:03:52,821 --> 00:03:56,116 - Okay. - How's that? 49 00:03:56,241 --> 00:03:57,952 Yeah. There we go. 50 00:03:58,077 --> 00:03:59,703 Sweetie with you? 51 00:03:59,828 --> 00:04:02,957 He's bringing the trash around back. 52 00:04:03,082 --> 00:04:05,668 Ah, yeah, garbage day. 53 00:04:05,793 --> 00:04:09,088 Everything in its right place. 54 00:04:09,213 --> 00:04:11,799 Of course you know how to do it, 55 00:04:11,924 --> 00:04:14,259 but you don't have to do it, not while I'm here. 56 00:04:14,385 --> 00:04:17,221 Don't take my job from me, please. 57 00:04:17,346 --> 00:04:19,556 There's only so much joy left for me in this world, 58 00:04:19,682 --> 00:04:22,559 you gotta let me have it now. 59 00:04:22,685 --> 00:04:24,019 Okay. 60 00:04:27,481 --> 00:04:28,524 You ready? 61 00:04:35,948 --> 00:04:36,991 Come here. 62 00:04:44,623 --> 00:04:45,874 Okay. 63 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,003 Go slow, okay? Come on. 64 00:04:49,128 --> 00:04:52,131 I got you. Okay. 65 00:04:52,256 --> 00:04:54,883 Could you tell me how many apartments there are in... 66 00:04:55,009 --> 00:04:57,136 We have 200 units. 67 00:04:57,261 --> 00:04:58,971 - 200, okay. - 200 units. 68 00:04:59,096 --> 00:04:59,930 And everything... 69 00:05:00,055 --> 00:05:01,515 Kitchen, full kitchen... 70 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,642 Full kitchen and... Yeah, that's... 71 00:05:03,767 --> 00:05:05,185 Well, everyone looks really nice. 72 00:05:05,310 --> 00:05:09,106 - Yes. It's a great group. - You know, Mr. Mayhew, 73 00:05:09,231 --> 00:05:11,650 my husband was a Tuskegee Airman. 74 00:05:11,775 --> 00:05:14,403 Fought for America in World War II. 75 00:05:14,528 --> 00:05:16,071 Oh. 76 00:05:16,196 --> 00:05:19,575 Oh, this is a gym here, yeah? 77 00:05:19,700 --> 00:05:22,119 Beautiful, open 24 hours. 78 00:05:37,426 --> 00:05:39,178 Oh, thank you. 79 00:05:42,181 --> 00:05:43,265 Thank you. 80 00:05:54,193 --> 00:05:57,029 So, um, you've got a really nice kitchen. 81 00:06:02,659 --> 00:06:05,788 Hey. 82 00:06:05,913 --> 00:06:11,001 - At least there's good light. - Mmm. Yeah. 83 00:06:17,382 --> 00:06:19,635 Look at that cloud. 84 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,681 I see a swimming pool with boys jumping in. 85 00:06:24,807 --> 00:06:27,893 - Where? - There. Look. 86 00:06:28,018 --> 00:06:29,228 There's the arms. 87 00:06:29,353 --> 00:06:33,357 Oh, yeah, I see it. I see it. I see it. 88 00:06:33,482 --> 00:06:37,611 They're a Little League team, just won the big game, 89 00:06:37,736 --> 00:06:40,656 celebrating and having a ball. 90 00:06:40,781 --> 00:06:42,032 See the splashes? 91 00:06:44,076 --> 00:06:45,327 Mama. 92 00:06:45,452 --> 00:06:47,871 Little League team. Splashes. 93 00:06:49,998 --> 00:06:51,291 It's true. 94 00:06:54,795 --> 00:06:57,714 You and your imagination. 95 00:07:06,223 --> 00:07:09,309 You gonna be all right? 96 00:07:11,395 --> 00:07:13,772 Yes. 97 00:07:13,897 --> 00:07:15,858 I'm gonna be all right, honey. 98 00:07:19,194 --> 00:07:21,405 I'm going to be all right. 99 00:07:21,530 --> 00:07:22,739 Okay. 100 00:07:29,580 --> 00:07:32,416 If anybody can maneuver, it's your ma. 101 00:07:32,541 --> 00:07:35,294 Okay? What's she say all the time? 102 00:07:35,419 --> 00:07:38,130 "My husband was a Tuskegee Airman." 103 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,800 Listen, I know keeping elders at home 104 00:07:41,925 --> 00:07:43,802 is supposed to be a noble thing and all, 105 00:07:43,927 --> 00:07:45,762 but there's something to be said 106 00:07:45,888 --> 00:07:48,307 for keeping her as independent as she can be. 107 00:07:48,432 --> 00:07:51,935 - Where'd you find them? - Next to the lamp. 108 00:07:52,060 --> 00:07:54,188 Under a scarf with the ringer off. 109 00:07:54,313 --> 00:07:56,023 Ugh... 110 00:07:56,148 --> 00:07:58,775 You've got to use the hook. That is what it is there for. 111 00:07:58,901 --> 00:08:00,694 Is that Mr. Brett? 112 00:08:00,819 --> 00:08:03,280 - Oh! - Ready to go out? 113 00:08:03,405 --> 00:08:05,490 Is this Marion? How's Teddy? 114 00:08:05,616 --> 00:08:07,993 You know, working my nerves, but what else is new? 115 00:08:10,579 --> 00:08:13,832 - You need some paper towels? - Yeah. 116 00:08:13,957 --> 00:08:15,876 Let's not miss this flight, okay? 117 00:08:19,254 --> 00:08:21,840 I love you. Please be safe, okay? 118 00:08:21,965 --> 00:08:22,925 Okay. 119 00:08:28,222 --> 00:08:29,932 You got your boarding pass? 120 00:08:34,228 --> 00:08:36,230 - I knew you had that. - Yeah, you knew it, huh? 121 00:08:36,355 --> 00:08:37,606 - You got it. - Bye. 122 00:08:37,731 --> 00:08:38,732 Bye, baby. 123 00:09:04,258 --> 00:09:07,135 The shipyard owners of Blohm & Voss 124 00:09:07,261 --> 00:09:10,097 gather for a ceremony celebrating the company's 125 00:09:10,222 --> 00:09:14,226 new 295-foot vessel. 126 00:09:17,521 --> 00:09:19,314 Adopted by the Nazis, 127 00:09:19,439 --> 00:09:22,693 a "heil" salute was mandatory for German citizens. 128 00:09:24,653 --> 00:09:26,655 But if you look closely, 129 00:09:26,780 --> 00:09:31,618 you'll find someone who defied this. 130 00:09:31,743 --> 00:09:35,914 His name is believed to be August Landmesser. 131 00:09:36,039 --> 00:09:40,210 He had joined the Nazi Party two years before this day, 132 00:09:40,335 --> 00:09:42,254 but in that time, 133 00:09:42,379 --> 00:09:45,007 August met and fell in love with a woman 134 00:09:45,132 --> 00:09:48,969 unlike any he'd ever met. 135 00:09:49,094 --> 00:09:54,182 Unlike any he was supposed to have met. 136 00:09:54,308 --> 00:09:56,685 Irma Eckler. 137 00:09:56,810 --> 00:09:58,186 A Jewish woman. 138 00:10:03,150 --> 00:10:05,736 An unexpected treat. You're early. 139 00:10:05,861 --> 00:10:07,612 I'm a surprise. 140 00:10:07,738 --> 00:10:09,573 That you are. 141 00:10:09,698 --> 00:10:10,949 A handsome one. 142 00:10:14,745 --> 00:10:17,581 Although a member of the dominant class, 143 00:10:17,706 --> 00:10:23,837 August saw in Irma what others like him chose not to see. 144 00:10:26,381 --> 00:10:30,218 Her humanity, her beauty, 145 00:10:30,344 --> 00:10:31,636 her love. 146 00:10:35,724 --> 00:10:38,268 On this day, 147 00:10:38,393 --> 00:10:41,229 he folded his arms 148 00:10:41,355 --> 00:10:48,653 rather than salute a regime that deemed that love illegal. 149 00:10:48,779 --> 00:10:52,074 On this day, he was brave. 150 00:10:55,035 --> 00:10:59,081 He couldn't have been the only one who felt something tragic 151 00:10:59,206 --> 00:11:01,583 was happening. 152 00:11:01,708 --> 00:11:05,337 So why was he the only one among the men 153 00:11:05,462 --> 00:11:08,507 to not go along that day? 154 00:11:08,632 --> 00:11:11,718 Perhaps we can reflect on what it would mean 155 00:11:11,843 --> 00:11:14,429 to be him today. 156 00:11:18,141 --> 00:11:21,728 I'll leave you with that. 157 00:11:21,853 --> 00:11:23,063 Thank you. 158 00:11:32,155 --> 00:11:33,198 - Good luck. - Thank you. 159 00:11:33,323 --> 00:11:36,326 Bye. 160 00:11:36,451 --> 00:11:37,911 Let me get this. 161 00:11:41,289 --> 00:11:42,416 - Thank you. - Thank you. 162 00:11:42,541 --> 00:11:44,501 - Water? - I'm fine. Thank you so much. 163 00:11:47,379 --> 00:11:49,798 Thank you. 164 00:11:49,923 --> 00:11:52,092 Isabel, Isabel. Hey! 165 00:11:52,217 --> 00:11:53,885 Amari! 166 00:11:54,010 --> 00:11:55,804 I didn't know you were speaking. 167 00:11:55,929 --> 00:11:57,431 No, no, no, one of my reporters is. 168 00:11:57,556 --> 00:11:59,224 Hey, can you guys give me a minute? Okay. 169 00:11:59,349 --> 00:12:01,685 - You were solid. - Uh... 170 00:12:01,810 --> 00:12:03,145 - Nice work. - I am a better writer 171 00:12:03,270 --> 00:12:04,563 than I am a speaker. 172 00:12:04,688 --> 00:12:05,939 Yeah, well, you're a better writer 173 00:12:06,064 --> 00:12:07,649 than most people do anything. 174 00:12:07,774 --> 00:12:11,153 So, listen, I was gonna reach out to you on something. 175 00:12:11,278 --> 00:12:14,906 So I'm gonna take seeing you as a sign. 176 00:12:15,031 --> 00:12:18,243 This... This Trayvon Martin case. 177 00:12:19,661 --> 00:12:21,496 - I know. - Have you heard the tapes? 178 00:12:21,621 --> 00:12:23,123 No. Of what? 179 00:12:25,417 --> 00:12:27,169 Not the murder? 180 00:12:27,294 --> 00:12:29,337 911 calls. This killer called 911 181 00:12:29,463 --> 00:12:31,006 before he did it. 182 00:12:31,131 --> 00:12:33,550 And tapes of people that heard the boy screaming out 183 00:12:33,675 --> 00:12:34,885 and called the police. 184 00:12:37,554 --> 00:12:39,681 - Is this public? - No. 185 00:12:39,806 --> 00:12:40,974 But it's being released. 186 00:12:41,099 --> 00:12:43,226 Slowly. 187 00:12:43,351 --> 00:12:45,812 But we got him. 188 00:12:45,937 --> 00:12:47,355 Are you interested in listening, 189 00:12:47,481 --> 00:12:49,566 to consider writing something for us? 190 00:12:54,112 --> 00:12:57,532 Amari, you have a stable of writers. 191 00:12:57,657 --> 00:12:59,993 They don't have Pulitzer Prizes. 192 00:13:00,118 --> 00:13:01,912 Some of them do, actually. 193 00:13:02,037 --> 00:13:04,706 Yeah, well, then they're not as brilliant as you 194 00:13:04,831 --> 00:13:07,626 on things like this. 195 00:13:07,751 --> 00:13:10,670 - You know what I do. - Yeah, and I know what you used to do. 196 00:13:10,795 --> 00:13:12,714 Some of the best reporting I've ever edited. 197 00:13:12,839 --> 00:13:14,257 I write books now. 198 00:13:14,382 --> 00:13:17,469 So, that one book you wrote took way too damn long. 199 00:13:17,594 --> 00:13:21,348 It was a masterpiece and whatnot, but... 200 00:13:21,473 --> 00:13:26,311 it took too long, Isabel, if you ask me. Writers write. 201 00:13:26,436 --> 00:13:27,812 So write. 202 00:13:32,817 --> 00:13:36,947 I don't do assignments anymore. I... 203 00:13:37,072 --> 00:13:40,283 I wanna be in the story. 204 00:13:40,408 --> 00:13:45,705 Really inside the story. 205 00:13:45,830 --> 00:13:48,458 And, yes, that takes time. 206 00:13:48,583 --> 00:13:51,086 Okay. 207 00:13:51,211 --> 00:13:52,921 Maybe after you hear the tapes. 208 00:13:53,046 --> 00:13:54,714 I'm gonna send them to you. 209 00:13:54,839 --> 00:13:56,967 - Okay. - Okay. No pressure. 210 00:15:16,671 --> 00:15:20,467 Sanford Police Department. Is there a report of the shots? 211 00:15:20,592 --> 00:15:22,802 Hey, we've had some break-ins in my neighbourhood. 212 00:15:22,927 --> 00:15:27,807 And there's a real suspicious guy, uh... 213 00:15:27,932 --> 00:15:30,477 This guy looks like he is up to no good, 214 00:15:30,602 --> 00:15:32,437 or he's on drugs or something. 215 00:15:32,562 --> 00:15:34,022 Okay, he's just walking around the area... 216 00:15:34,147 --> 00:15:35,482 Looking at all the houses. 217 00:15:35,607 --> 00:15:38,068 It's raining and he's just walking around, 218 00:15:38,193 --> 00:15:40,070 - looking about. - Okay. 219 00:15:42,614 --> 00:15:44,199 And he's a Black male. 220 00:15:49,537 --> 00:15:51,456 Now he's just staring at me. 221 00:15:53,875 --> 00:15:55,585 Did you see what he was wearing? 222 00:15:55,710 --> 00:15:58,630 Yeah, a dark hoodie, like, a gray hoodie, 223 00:15:58,755 --> 00:16:02,592 and either jeans or sweatpants, and white tennis shoes. 224 00:16:09,432 --> 00:16:11,476 - Shit, he's running. - He's running? 225 00:16:11,601 --> 00:16:13,645 Which way is he running? 226 00:16:13,770 --> 00:16:17,732 Down towards the other entrance to the neighbourhood. 227 00:16:17,857 --> 00:16:22,070 These assholes, they always get away. 228 00:16:22,195 --> 00:16:24,239 Are you following him? 229 00:16:24,364 --> 00:16:27,033 - Yeah. - Okay, we don't need you to do that. 230 00:16:27,158 --> 00:16:28,243 Okay? 231 00:16:33,289 --> 00:16:35,417 All right, sir, what is your name? 232 00:16:35,542 --> 00:16:36,793 George. 233 00:16:36,918 --> 00:16:40,046 He ran. 234 00:16:40,171 --> 00:16:42,549 All right, George, what's your last name? 235 00:16:42,674 --> 00:16:45,427 Zimmerman. 236 00:16:45,552 --> 00:16:47,554 911. Do you need police, fire or medical? 237 00:16:47,679 --> 00:16:51,349 Maybe both, I'm not sure. There's just someone screaming outside. 238 00:16:53,226 --> 00:16:54,894 Okay, what's the address that they're near? 239 00:16:55,019 --> 00:16:56,479 1211 Twin Trees Lane. 240 00:16:56,604 --> 00:16:58,898 And is it a male or female? 241 00:16:59,023 --> 00:17:01,943 - It sounds like a male. - And you don't know why? 242 00:17:02,068 --> 00:17:04,154 I don't know why. I think they're yelling "help," 243 00:17:04,279 --> 00:17:05,989 but I don't know. 244 00:17:09,117 --> 00:17:10,869 So you think he's yelling "help"? 245 00:17:10,994 --> 00:17:12,287 Yes. 246 00:17:12,412 --> 00:17:14,456 I can't see him. I don't want to go out there, 247 00:17:14,581 --> 00:17:16,583 I don't know what's going on, so... 248 00:17:18,543 --> 00:17:21,129 Just... gunshots. 249 00:17:21,254 --> 00:17:23,631 - You just heard gunshots? - Yes. 250 00:17:23,757 --> 00:17:26,092 - How many? - Just one. 251 00:17:30,597 --> 00:17:33,391 Is he right outside 1211 Twin Trees Lane? 252 00:17:33,516 --> 00:17:35,810 Yeah, pretty much. Out the back, yes. 253 00:18:19,604 --> 00:18:21,981 - Good to see you. - Thank you. You too. 254 00:18:22,106 --> 00:18:24,317 Hi. 255 00:18:24,442 --> 00:18:25,401 - Hey. - Hi! 256 00:18:25,527 --> 00:18:27,111 Looking gorgeous. 257 00:18:27,237 --> 00:18:29,197 - Oh, Brett. How are you? - Hi. Yeah. How are you? 258 00:18:29,322 --> 00:18:31,282 - You well? Great to see you. - Okay, and you. 259 00:18:31,407 --> 00:18:32,909 He's wearing that tux very well. 260 00:18:33,034 --> 00:18:34,327 - Very well. 261 00:18:34,452 --> 00:18:35,954 - He can hear you. - Well, he can. 262 00:18:36,079 --> 00:18:37,914 But he's grateful, thank you. 263 00:18:38,039 --> 00:18:39,415 - Hi. - Hello. 264 00:18:39,541 --> 00:18:43,336 Amari Selvan asked me twice if you were coming. 265 00:18:43,461 --> 00:18:45,338 He wants something for the paper. 266 00:18:45,463 --> 00:18:47,465 He's made that very clear. 267 00:18:47,590 --> 00:18:50,176 You interested? We can time it with the audiobook. 268 00:18:57,392 --> 00:18:58,560 Did you listen? 269 00:19:01,521 --> 00:19:05,233 Yeah. Yeah. 270 00:19:05,358 --> 00:19:06,401 It's a lot. 271 00:19:06,526 --> 00:19:08,111 - Yeah. - It's a lot. 272 00:19:08,236 --> 00:19:10,947 There's a lot there. But longer-form stuff, 273 00:19:11,072 --> 00:19:12,699 questions that I don't have the answer to. 274 00:19:12,824 --> 00:19:14,117 So ask them in a piece. 275 00:19:14,242 --> 00:19:18,997 I don't write questions. I write answers. 276 00:19:19,122 --> 00:19:21,040 Questions like what? 277 00:19:21,165 --> 00:19:24,377 Like why does a Latino man deputize himself 278 00:19:24,502 --> 00:19:28,965 to stalk a Black boy to protect an all-white community? 279 00:19:29,090 --> 00:19:31,092 - What is that? - The racist bias I want you to explore, 280 00:19:31,217 --> 00:19:32,969 excavate for the readers. 281 00:19:33,094 --> 00:19:37,015 We call everything "racism." What does it even mean anymore? 282 00:19:37,140 --> 00:19:40,268 It's the default. When did that happen? 283 00:19:40,393 --> 00:19:41,936 - Hey, Brett. - How are you doing? 284 00:19:42,061 --> 00:19:44,439 So, what? So you're saying that he isn't a racist? 285 00:19:44,564 --> 00:19:46,357 No, I'm not saying that he's not a racist. 286 00:19:46,482 --> 00:19:50,194 I'm questioning, why is everything racist? 287 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,780 - This feels like a setup. - I've been there. 288 00:19:59,329 --> 00:20:01,164 Okay. 289 00:20:01,289 --> 00:20:02,916 - Home ownership. - Okay. 290 00:20:03,041 --> 00:20:04,792 Covenants were written into land deeds 291 00:20:04,918 --> 00:20:07,378 barring Black people from having wills. 292 00:20:07,503 --> 00:20:09,547 No generational wealth allowed. 293 00:20:09,672 --> 00:20:11,674 We could not pass on what we earned 294 00:20:11,799 --> 00:20:14,427 to our kids for almost 500 years. 295 00:20:14,552 --> 00:20:16,346 Every time, we'd have to start from zero. 296 00:20:16,471 --> 00:20:20,850 So, if we are not allowed to pass on the fruits 297 00:20:20,975 --> 00:20:23,061 of our labour to our family, 298 00:20:23,186 --> 00:20:27,148 is that the same racism that took Trayvon's life? 299 00:20:27,273 --> 00:20:30,443 Systemic racism. Yes, same. 300 00:20:30,568 --> 00:20:32,528 Are you sure? 301 00:20:32,654 --> 00:20:34,489 Are you sure? 302 00:20:34,614 --> 00:20:36,282 What does it mean? 303 00:20:36,407 --> 00:20:38,201 Murders of Black people by the police, 304 00:20:38,326 --> 00:20:40,119 we call that racism. 305 00:20:40,244 --> 00:20:42,205 - Everything's the same. - I get it. 306 00:20:42,330 --> 00:20:43,665 Being followed in a department store 307 00:20:43,790 --> 00:20:45,583 and being lynched shouldn't be called the same thing, 308 00:20:45,708 --> 00:20:49,963 - I get that. - Racism as the primary language 309 00:20:50,088 --> 00:20:53,716 to understand everything 310 00:20:53,841 --> 00:20:55,218 is insufficient. 311 00:20:55,343 --> 00:20:56,886 - See, this is good. - That's all. 312 00:20:57,011 --> 00:20:58,805 This is good. 313 00:20:58,930 --> 00:21:01,474 Look, I need a piece delving into what the Martin case means. 314 00:21:01,599 --> 00:21:03,726 Set the context with these questions, 315 00:21:03,851 --> 00:21:05,311 it's what you do best. 316 00:21:05,436 --> 00:21:07,939 Make the hard stuff digestible. And this is a hard one. 317 00:21:08,064 --> 00:21:10,525 "What does it all mean?" 318 00:21:10,650 --> 00:21:13,194 These questions are the piece. 319 00:21:13,319 --> 00:21:15,613 Hey, I'll make it splashy, prime placement, Sunday. 320 00:21:15,738 --> 00:21:17,115 - Maybe even the cover. - You're terrible. 321 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,282 You're terrible, Amari. 322 00:21:18,408 --> 00:21:20,493 I'm just saying. Your face on the cover? 323 00:21:25,164 --> 00:21:27,458 There's a lot there. There's a lot there. 324 00:21:27,583 --> 00:21:29,168 But I am on hiatus. 325 00:21:29,293 --> 00:21:31,713 - Isabel, come on. Come on. - I am. I am. 326 00:21:31,838 --> 00:21:34,298 I... I have family responsibilities. 327 00:21:37,885 --> 00:21:39,721 Well... 328 00:21:39,846 --> 00:21:42,890 Well, good for you for taking time. 329 00:21:43,016 --> 00:21:44,600 - We'll talk again. - All right. 330 00:21:44,726 --> 00:21:46,644 Hey, you two take care, all right? 331 00:21:46,769 --> 00:21:50,440 Good to see you. All right. 332 00:21:50,565 --> 00:21:52,233 - I don't like this. - Okay. 333 00:21:52,358 --> 00:21:53,860 Okay. Okay. 334 00:21:57,113 --> 00:21:58,364 - I don't... - She's wrong. 335 00:21:58,489 --> 00:22:00,116 She just said the only movie she knows. 336 00:22:01,409 --> 00:22:04,871 Oh, she deserves to lose that money. 337 00:22:04,996 --> 00:22:07,832 ...speak to an issue that obviously has gotten a lot of attention 338 00:22:07,957 --> 00:22:09,625 over the course of the last week, 339 00:22:09,751 --> 00:22:12,336 the issue of the Trayvon Martin ruling. 340 00:22:12,462 --> 00:22:13,713 I gave a preliminary statement... 341 00:22:13,838 --> 00:22:15,465 That poor child's mother. 342 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:17,300 ...right after the ruling on Sunday. 343 00:22:17,425 --> 00:22:21,304 I wish he'd answered the man right. 344 00:22:21,429 --> 00:22:22,805 What was that, Mama? 345 00:22:22,930 --> 00:22:25,892 I wish he had answered the man 346 00:22:26,017 --> 00:22:29,729 when he asked him why he was there in the neighbourhood. 347 00:22:29,854 --> 00:22:32,690 Maybe he'd still be with us. 348 00:22:32,815 --> 00:22:35,193 Are you saying it's the boy's fault? 349 00:22:35,318 --> 00:22:38,279 No, of course not, don't be silly. 350 00:22:38,404 --> 00:22:44,243 I'm saying you got to act in a way to keep you safe. 351 00:22:44,368 --> 00:22:47,038 He was... 352 00:22:47,163 --> 00:22:48,915 He was too young to know it. 353 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,793 He shouldn't have had to answer to anyone. 354 00:22:51,918 --> 00:22:54,879 "Should have" and real life are two different things, 355 00:22:55,004 --> 00:22:57,507 darling, you know that. 356 00:22:57,632 --> 00:23:01,177 You can't be walking around at night on a white street 357 00:23:01,302 --> 00:23:03,971 and not expect trouble. 358 00:23:04,097 --> 00:23:07,225 That's intimidating to most whites. 359 00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:08,684 True or not? 360 00:23:16,567 --> 00:23:18,486 Yeah. 361 00:23:18,611 --> 00:23:22,824 Yeah. Unfortunately, I think it is true. 362 00:23:22,949 --> 00:23:24,826 But I also think that you can't live your life 363 00:23:24,951 --> 00:23:27,328 based on what's intimidating to people. 364 00:23:32,625 --> 00:23:34,502 Sure you can, sweetie. 365 00:23:44,554 --> 00:23:46,430 So you're going on hiatus, huh, 366 00:23:46,556 --> 00:23:48,933 - is what you're doing? - Huh? 367 00:23:49,058 --> 00:23:50,768 You told Amari you were going on hiatus, 368 00:23:50,893 --> 00:23:54,272 you told me that you were gonna be travelling less for work. 369 00:23:54,397 --> 00:23:56,440 So I'm just trying to figure out what exactly it is 370 00:23:56,566 --> 00:23:58,901 that you're gonna do. 'Cause... 371 00:23:59,026 --> 00:24:01,737 I said I wanted to focus on her. 372 00:24:01,863 --> 00:24:04,157 Okay. 373 00:24:04,282 --> 00:24:08,703 People are asking you to write because of your voice, 374 00:24:08,828 --> 00:24:11,205 because they... the way you think. 375 00:24:11,330 --> 00:24:13,916 - I just... I don't know what you're doing. - She... 376 00:24:14,041 --> 00:24:15,710 She doesn't belong in that place. 377 00:24:15,835 --> 00:24:17,086 Oh, right. 378 00:24:17,211 --> 00:24:19,255 She should be at home. 379 00:24:19,380 --> 00:24:22,508 She moved because she was lonely. 380 00:24:22,633 --> 00:24:25,094 I should've spent more time with her. 381 00:24:25,219 --> 00:24:27,013 Daddy would want me to fix this. 382 00:24:27,138 --> 00:24:29,098 Hmm. 383 00:24:29,223 --> 00:24:30,892 I think your father was pretty clear 384 00:24:31,017 --> 00:24:33,019 that what he wanted was for you to be happy, 385 00:24:33,144 --> 00:24:35,646 people to be happy. 386 00:24:35,771 --> 00:24:38,524 Sacrificing your work, well, that's gonna accomplish exactly 387 00:24:38,649 --> 00:24:40,860 the opposite, so... 388 00:24:40,985 --> 00:24:42,945 Your mother was very clear about what she wanted. 389 00:24:43,070 --> 00:24:44,739 It's not that, so... 390 00:25:38,542 --> 00:25:43,130 - I don't see it, Betty. - Maybe it's checked out. 391 00:25:43,256 --> 00:25:44,966 In 1933, 392 00:25:45,091 --> 00:25:50,221 two African-American anthropologists were studying in Berlin. 393 00:25:50,346 --> 00:25:52,098 There are no books here at all by him. 394 00:25:52,223 --> 00:25:55,059 At the premier library in the city. 395 00:25:55,184 --> 00:25:58,729 The country. 396 00:25:58,854 --> 00:26:01,816 Beautiful library, though. 397 00:26:01,941 --> 00:26:04,986 I could get lost in all these books forever. 398 00:26:05,111 --> 00:26:06,570 All these ideas. 399 00:26:12,827 --> 00:26:15,746 Your library card. 400 00:26:15,871 --> 00:26:19,458 Good afternoon. Of course. 401 00:26:19,583 --> 00:26:21,002 And your passports. 402 00:26:33,889 --> 00:26:39,020 Can you tell us when Erich Maria Remarque's 'All Quiet on the Western Front' is due back? 403 00:27:07,256 --> 00:27:11,552 They witnessed events that would change the world. 404 00:27:22,438 --> 00:27:23,439 Baby. 405 00:27:29,612 --> 00:27:32,615 Brett. 406 00:28:13,030 --> 00:28:17,576 By trade, Brett Hamilton was a mathematician, 407 00:28:17,701 --> 00:28:20,788 a financial analyst. 408 00:28:20,913 --> 00:28:25,292 By heart, he was a passionate champion 409 00:28:25,418 --> 00:28:28,504 for those he loved deeply. 410 00:28:28,629 --> 00:28:31,090 He played classical guitar, 411 00:28:31,215 --> 00:28:33,676 was an enthusiastic cook, 412 00:28:33,801 --> 00:28:35,803 and volunteered his time and efforts 413 00:28:35,928 --> 00:28:38,514 to those less fortunate. 414 00:28:38,639 --> 00:28:41,725 In college, he joined Phi Kappa Tau, 415 00:28:41,851 --> 00:28:43,310 Delta Chapter, 416 00:28:43,436 --> 00:28:46,814 and with his friends, enjoyed caving trips, 417 00:28:46,939 --> 00:28:49,942 watching thunderstorms, 418 00:28:50,067 --> 00:28:53,154 and debating the big stuff. 419 00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:55,906 Recently, he travelled extensively in Europe, 420 00:28:56,031 --> 00:29:00,286 accompanying his beloved in her professional activities 421 00:29:00,411 --> 00:29:01,954 in the cause of social justice. 422 00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:05,124 I'm Mrs. Copeland from across the street. 423 00:29:05,249 --> 00:29:06,667 How is Isabel? 424 00:29:06,792 --> 00:29:11,005 She's... she's resting right now. 425 00:29:12,798 --> 00:29:15,593 I can't believe it. 426 00:29:15,718 --> 00:29:19,889 Thank you so much for coming by. 427 00:29:20,014 --> 00:29:22,141 Give her my love, please. 428 00:30:16,862 --> 00:30:19,073 Isabel Wilkerson's office. 429 00:30:19,198 --> 00:30:21,700 Hello, hi. 430 00:30:21,825 --> 00:30:25,538 This is Kate. I'm Isabel's editor. 431 00:30:25,663 --> 00:30:28,123 Yeah, I know who you are. Hi, Kate. 432 00:30:28,249 --> 00:30:30,125 This is her cousin Marion. 433 00:30:30,251 --> 00:30:33,671 Marion. Marion, hi. 434 00:30:33,796 --> 00:30:37,883 My condolences for your family's losses. 435 00:30:38,008 --> 00:30:41,220 I don't have the words. 436 00:30:41,345 --> 00:30:43,514 It's unfathomable, it's unthinkable. 437 00:30:46,392 --> 00:30:49,436 I just, I can't... 438 00:30:49,562 --> 00:30:52,314 Two of the closest people to you in a year, 439 00:30:52,439 --> 00:30:54,233 who can withstand it? 440 00:30:54,358 --> 00:30:55,651 How is she? 441 00:31:26,849 --> 00:31:30,644 Hold me. Don't leave me. 442 00:31:30,769 --> 00:31:33,897 I am right here. I am right here. 443 00:31:34,023 --> 00:31:35,608 I am right here. 444 00:31:38,027 --> 00:31:40,779 Stay. Stay. 445 00:31:40,904 --> 00:31:43,991 - Stay. Stay. - I am right here 446 00:31:44,116 --> 00:31:48,329 Stay. Stay. Stay. 447 00:31:48,454 --> 00:31:49,663 Stay. 448 00:33:40,941 --> 00:33:42,317 Hey. 449 00:33:42,443 --> 00:33:46,613 - You made it in okay? - Yeah, I'm here. 450 00:33:46,739 --> 00:33:48,282 How are you? 451 00:33:48,407 --> 00:33:50,409 Tell me how you're feeling. 452 00:33:50,534 --> 00:33:53,036 How does it feel to be back there with all of her things? 453 00:33:53,162 --> 00:33:56,081 I'm here, Marion. That's all I am. 454 00:33:59,835 --> 00:34:03,255 - You know what? I gotta go. - Right. 455 00:34:04,548 --> 00:34:06,842 I've gotta get this house packed. 456 00:34:06,967 --> 00:34:09,970 I could come down this weekend and help you. 457 00:34:10,095 --> 00:34:11,430 We could take it slow. 458 00:34:11,555 --> 00:34:13,182 I've gotta get these things packed up 459 00:34:13,307 --> 00:34:14,683 so I can start back work. 460 00:34:14,808 --> 00:34:17,644 Wait, you're starting back to work? 461 00:34:17,770 --> 00:34:19,605 Of course. 462 00:34:19,730 --> 00:34:21,940 What am I supposed to do? How am I supposed to live? 463 00:34:22,065 --> 00:34:23,817 Okay. 464 00:34:23,942 --> 00:34:26,862 What is the work you have to do and when do you need to start? 465 00:34:26,987 --> 00:34:28,989 Marion, I have to go. I'm already behind. 466 00:34:29,114 --> 00:34:30,365 I... 467 00:34:30,491 --> 00:34:32,785 I'll talk to you later, okay? Bye. 468 00:34:32,910 --> 00:34:35,120 Okay. 469 00:34:35,245 --> 00:34:37,414 The HVAC guy got the sump pump working 470 00:34:37,539 --> 00:34:40,417 and got most of the water out. 471 00:34:40,542 --> 00:34:43,003 This has never happened before. 472 00:34:43,128 --> 00:34:45,047 I'm never down here. My husband was always 473 00:34:45,172 --> 00:34:46,215 the one down here, 474 00:34:46,340 --> 00:34:48,425 changing the filter in the furnace 475 00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:50,469 or checking the fuse box. 476 00:34:50,594 --> 00:34:54,431 But he died last year, so... 477 00:34:54,556 --> 00:34:55,808 Uh-huh. 478 00:35:05,442 --> 00:35:07,319 There's where the water's coming in. 479 00:35:07,444 --> 00:35:09,404 Where? 480 00:35:09,530 --> 00:35:10,739 The sink. 481 00:35:15,661 --> 00:35:18,247 The sink doesn't overflow. 482 00:35:20,541 --> 00:35:24,086 I mean, is it a pipe that's clogged, or... 483 00:35:24,211 --> 00:35:26,004 Probably the pump needs clearing out. 484 00:35:26,129 --> 00:35:27,506 I'll write an estimate. 485 00:35:55,576 --> 00:35:57,494 My mother died a few months ago. 486 00:36:02,499 --> 00:36:06,253 What about you? 487 00:36:06,378 --> 00:36:08,171 Is your mother still alive? 488 00:36:12,843 --> 00:36:15,012 No. No, she's not. 489 00:36:15,137 --> 00:36:19,975 Died in 1991, 52 years old. 490 00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:21,268 Goodness. 491 00:36:25,063 --> 00:36:29,776 That's not old... at all. 492 00:36:29,902 --> 00:36:32,821 It sure ain't. 493 00:36:32,946 --> 00:36:34,114 Your father? 494 00:36:40,162 --> 00:36:41,997 He's 78. 495 00:36:42,122 --> 00:36:44,124 Hmm. 496 00:36:44,249 --> 00:36:47,711 You're lucky to have him. 497 00:36:47,836 --> 00:36:49,296 He's mean as they come. 498 00:36:56,345 --> 00:36:58,764 Well... 499 00:36:58,889 --> 00:37:00,724 I guess, in the end, we miss them no matter... 500 00:37:00,849 --> 00:37:02,059 no matter what they were like. 501 00:37:02,184 --> 00:37:04,186 No, not him. 502 00:37:14,321 --> 00:37:16,073 You know what? Uh... 503 00:37:21,453 --> 00:37:24,122 - You see something? - Well, maybe. 504 00:38:10,585 --> 00:38:12,963 - I have an idea. Yes. - You do? 505 00:38:13,088 --> 00:38:15,048 Thought that might be why you came. 506 00:38:16,383 --> 00:38:20,679 - Tell us, tell. Is it... - Well, I... 507 00:38:20,804 --> 00:38:23,890 didn't explore the Trayvon Martin case. 508 00:38:24,016 --> 00:38:25,308 I know it's been a while, 509 00:38:25,434 --> 00:38:29,104 but I think there's a lot to unpack. 510 00:38:29,229 --> 00:38:30,939 I've been thinking about my mother 511 00:38:31,064 --> 00:38:32,441 and how she insisted 512 00:38:32,566 --> 00:38:36,194 we be polite and buttoned up around white people. 513 00:38:40,782 --> 00:38:45,370 And there's all this... Nazi symbolism 514 00:38:45,495 --> 00:38:48,373 all over the place. You heard about what happened 515 00:38:48,498 --> 00:38:49,750 in Charlottesville. 516 00:38:49,875 --> 00:38:51,418 - Yes. Neo-Nazis. - Yeah. 517 00:38:51,543 --> 00:38:57,049 Drove his car through a crowd at a protest for Black Lives. 518 00:38:57,174 --> 00:38:59,217 Killed a white woman. 519 00:38:59,342 --> 00:39:00,635 Heather Heyer. 520 00:39:00,761 --> 00:39:05,682 All these idiots walking around with tiki torches, 521 00:39:05,807 --> 00:39:11,438 invoking imagery from the KKK and Nazi Germany to stoke fear. 522 00:39:11,563 --> 00:39:13,482 There's this terrific Indian scholar. 523 00:39:13,607 --> 00:39:17,569 I've been wanting to read his work, but I haven't. 524 00:39:17,694 --> 00:39:19,404 Um... 525 00:39:19,529 --> 00:39:22,074 He's a Dalit professor, and he won a... 526 00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:24,659 - Sorry, a "Dalit" professor? - He's a Dalit 527 00:39:24,785 --> 00:39:25,952 and a professor. 528 00:39:26,078 --> 00:39:27,829 The Dalits are untouchables in India, 529 00:39:27,954 --> 00:39:29,748 beneath the lowest caste. 530 00:39:29,873 --> 00:39:31,333 - Have you ever heard of them? - No. 531 00:39:31,458 --> 00:39:33,043 - Have you ever heard of them? - No. 532 00:39:33,168 --> 00:39:35,170 No! Me either. Why? 533 00:39:35,295 --> 00:39:38,757 There's connective tissue here. There's connective tissue there. 534 00:39:38,882 --> 00:39:41,676 There is connective tissue here. I... I could... 535 00:39:41,802 --> 00:39:43,678 I could... I could... 536 00:39:43,804 --> 00:39:47,599 I could build a thesis that shows how all of this, 537 00:39:47,724 --> 00:39:49,351 all of it, 538 00:39:49,476 --> 00:39:52,687 is linked. 539 00:39:52,813 --> 00:39:54,856 Well... 540 00:39:57,859 --> 00:40:01,071 Well, that's the writer's journey, right? 541 00:40:01,196 --> 00:40:03,740 Sorting all of that out. 542 00:40:03,865 --> 00:40:06,451 There's a lot going on in that big brain of yours. 543 00:40:06,576 --> 00:40:09,454 I love that. I love it. 544 00:40:09,579 --> 00:40:13,208 But I gotta be honest with you, I don't understand 545 00:40:13,333 --> 00:40:16,253 how the woman that they killed, by the neo-Nazis... 546 00:40:16,378 --> 00:40:17,671 Heather Heyer. 547 00:40:17,796 --> 00:40:20,465 ...how that connects to the Dalit professor... 548 00:40:20,590 --> 00:40:22,300 - Mm-hmm. - ...connects to Trayvon Martin, 549 00:40:22,425 --> 00:40:24,970 connects to your mom. 550 00:40:25,095 --> 00:40:26,513 I don't see it. 551 00:40:26,638 --> 00:40:27,931 Yet. I don't see that yet. 552 00:40:28,056 --> 00:40:30,642 But if you can make people see it, 553 00:40:30,767 --> 00:40:33,061 then that is an incredible book. 554 00:40:54,583 --> 00:40:57,419 Come here. Mm... 555 00:40:57,544 --> 00:40:59,880 I love you. Please be safe, okay? 556 00:42:18,541 --> 00:42:20,043 - Hello, excuse me. - Hi. 557 00:42:20,168 --> 00:42:21,753 Um, this is the book you ordered. 558 00:42:21,878 --> 00:42:24,547 - Oh, yes, yes. Please sit down. - And the list we talked about. 559 00:42:27,259 --> 00:42:30,095 This is a list from 1935, October, 560 00:42:30,220 --> 00:42:34,224 - a little bit later than the first list. - Yes. 561 00:42:34,349 --> 00:42:37,352 And here, Remarque, Erich Maria... 562 00:42:37,477 --> 00:42:40,188 That means everything he wrote is "to destroyed." Blown. 563 00:42:40,313 --> 00:42:42,107 -"To be destroyed." - Yes. 564 00:43:03,586 --> 00:43:04,879 Excuse me. 565 00:43:05,005 --> 00:43:09,551 I heard you inquire about Remarque. 566 00:43:09,676 --> 00:43:12,429 But I couldn't hear the librarian's answer. 567 00:43:12,554 --> 00:43:14,889 I'm Kästner. 568 00:43:15,015 --> 00:43:17,058 I'm from here. 569 00:43:17,183 --> 00:43:20,478 How long have you been in Berlin? 570 00:43:20,603 --> 00:43:22,230 About five weeks. 571 00:43:25,066 --> 00:43:26,985 You've no idea what's happening. 572 00:43:27,110 --> 00:43:31,072 - Pardon me? - I'm sorry, I didn't catch that. 573 00:43:31,197 --> 00:43:34,576 You have no idea what's happening here. 574 00:43:34,701 --> 00:43:36,953 Everything is being torn apart. 575 00:43:59,851 --> 00:44:08,234 The period of exaggerated Jewish intellectualism 576 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,236 is now at an end! 577 00:44:14,783 --> 00:44:17,077 The German soul... 578 00:44:17,202 --> 00:44:21,623 ...can express itself again! 579 00:44:21,748 --> 00:44:25,543 No to decadence... 580 00:44:28,171 --> 00:44:30,924 ...and moral corruption! 581 00:44:36,096 --> 00:44:44,187 Yes to decency and morality in family and state! 582 00:44:48,233 --> 00:44:51,277 In Germany, there's memorials to nearly everyone 583 00:44:51,403 --> 00:44:54,656 victimized by the Nazis. 584 00:44:54,781 --> 00:44:57,325 And there's no entry sign, no gate. 585 00:44:57,450 --> 00:45:00,745 - It's just opened both day and night. - Yes, yes. 586 00:45:09,087 --> 00:45:10,964 Just standing to bear witness. 587 00:45:19,806 --> 00:45:22,267 20,000 books that were lost that night. 588 00:45:26,563 --> 00:45:31,443 Books filled with imagination and ideas, and history. 589 00:45:41,369 --> 00:45:45,540 Leave here, my friends. 590 00:45:45,665 --> 00:45:47,750 Leave Germany. 591 00:45:47,876 --> 00:45:49,586 Go to your home as soon as you can, 592 00:45:49,711 --> 00:45:51,463 you'll be safer there. 593 00:46:00,930 --> 00:46:06,269 I deliver to the flames the works of... 594 00:46:06,394 --> 00:46:09,105 Sigmund Freud, 595 00:46:09,230 --> 00:46:11,858 Heinrich Mann, 596 00:46:11,983 --> 00:46:14,319 Ernst Gläser, 597 00:46:14,444 --> 00:46:17,614 Erich Maria Remarque... 598 00:46:20,783 --> 00:46:22,118 Erich Kästner. 599 00:46:25,455 --> 00:46:28,374 "Where you burn books, you end up burning men." 600 00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:30,877 It's a quote by Heinrich Heine. 601 00:46:31,002 --> 00:46:33,796 He was a poet. German and Jewish. 602 00:46:45,225 --> 00:46:47,727 No. You are not changing the subject anymore. 603 00:46:47,852 --> 00:46:49,896 - Oh, yeah. - Okay. 604 00:46:50,021 --> 00:46:51,231 - Guns, Christmas. - Yes. 605 00:46:51,356 --> 00:46:52,857 - And then? - Ah! 606 00:46:52,982 --> 00:46:55,485 - Jawohl. Sweetheart? - No, I still have 607 00:46:55,610 --> 00:46:56,694 a couple sips left. 608 00:46:58,112 --> 00:46:59,239 You're basically in danger 609 00:46:59,364 --> 00:47:00,823 when you're visiting your family. 610 00:47:00,949 --> 00:47:02,700 - Yeah. Always. - It's the American way. 611 00:47:02,825 --> 00:47:06,704 I mean, we know. We know. It's ridiculous. 612 00:47:06,829 --> 00:47:10,250 That is what I'm looking at with the article. 613 00:47:10,375 --> 00:47:14,546 You have 900 shootings a week, it seems, in America, 614 00:47:14,671 --> 00:47:16,839 and you keep giving people guns. 615 00:47:16,965 --> 00:47:18,675 I don't understand at all. 616 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:19,884 We don't even understand it ourselves. 617 00:47:20,009 --> 00:47:21,719 We don't understand. 618 00:47:21,844 --> 00:47:24,639 You know, I um... I heard, here, 619 00:47:24,764 --> 00:47:29,060 that displaying the swastika is a crime. 620 00:47:29,185 --> 00:47:31,062 - Mm-hmm. - Three years in prison? 621 00:47:31,187 --> 00:47:32,397 Yes, yes, that's true. 622 00:47:32,522 --> 00:47:33,856 I mean, it's not tolerated. 623 00:47:33,982 --> 00:47:37,110 Well, in America, um... 624 00:47:37,235 --> 00:47:39,904 the Confederate flag, which is like your swastika, 625 00:47:40,029 --> 00:47:43,449 the flag of murderers and traitors, 626 00:47:43,575 --> 00:47:45,785 it is a part of the official flag 627 00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:47,078 of one of our states, 628 00:47:47,203 --> 00:47:49,247 - No. - Mississippi. 629 00:47:49,372 --> 00:47:52,667 Men who wanted to wage war for the right 630 00:47:52,792 --> 00:47:54,836 to own other human beings. 631 00:47:54,961 --> 00:47:59,591 Statues of them sprinkled all over the country right now. 632 00:47:59,716 --> 00:48:01,968 - Madness. - Hmm. 633 00:48:02,093 --> 00:48:04,178 You know, it's not perfect, 634 00:48:04,304 --> 00:48:07,432 but Germany has no monuments that celebrate Nazis. 635 00:48:07,557 --> 00:48:08,891 I mean, everything Hitler's gone, 636 00:48:09,017 --> 00:48:11,436 paved right over it all, and built new things. 637 00:48:11,561 --> 00:48:14,188 I mean, you can literally walk right over Nazi places 638 00:48:14,314 --> 00:48:16,065 and never know they were even there. 639 00:48:16,190 --> 00:48:17,692 - And the bunker. - Yes, the bunker. 640 00:48:17,817 --> 00:48:19,319 - It's long gone. - It's like nothing. 641 00:48:19,444 --> 00:48:21,613 - Yeah. - I mean, it was 30 feet underground, 642 00:48:21,738 --> 00:48:23,990 and was protected with reinforced concrete. 643 00:48:24,115 --> 00:48:25,700 And now it has, like, a Volkswagen 644 00:48:25,825 --> 00:48:28,745 or something parked on top of it at any given time of the day. 645 00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:30,538 It is very different than the States. 646 00:48:30,663 --> 00:48:32,373 A very different approach. 647 00:48:32,498 --> 00:48:34,042 Well, there are so many differences 648 00:48:34,167 --> 00:48:35,960 between here and there. We are talking 649 00:48:36,085 --> 00:48:39,547 about the systematic murder of 6,000,000 Jews, 650 00:48:39,672 --> 00:48:41,090 that's the official number. 651 00:48:41,215 --> 00:48:44,093 So it's just very different 652 00:48:44,218 --> 00:48:45,887 than monuments to soldiers and whatnot. 653 00:48:46,012 --> 00:48:48,723 And what? What are you saying is different? 654 00:48:48,848 --> 00:48:50,975 All of it. We're talking about deliberate extermination 655 00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:52,685 over many years. 656 00:48:52,810 --> 00:48:55,146 Yeah, but wasn't slavery for, like, hundreds of years? 657 00:48:55,271 --> 00:48:59,734 - Right, Isabel? - Slavery lasted 246 years. 658 00:48:59,859 --> 00:49:03,571 That's 13 generations of people. 659 00:49:03,696 --> 00:49:05,990 Plus another 100 years of Jim Crow, 660 00:49:06,115 --> 00:49:09,035 segregation, violence and murder. 661 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,829 It is, of course, horrific. I am not downplaying any of it. 662 00:49:11,954 --> 00:49:15,583 There were so many millions of African Americans 663 00:49:15,708 --> 00:49:19,879 who were murdered. 664 00:49:20,004 --> 00:49:21,923 From the Middle Passage until the end 665 00:49:22,048 --> 00:49:23,424 of legal segregation, 666 00:49:23,549 --> 00:49:28,012 that it goes beyond the realm of an official number. 667 00:49:31,891 --> 00:49:34,644 - There is no number. - I didn't know that. 668 00:49:34,769 --> 00:49:37,063 - No. It's stunning. - It is. 669 00:49:37,188 --> 00:49:41,609 And I understand you're trying to make sense 670 00:49:41,734 --> 00:49:44,070 of American racism. It is noble. 671 00:49:44,195 --> 00:49:47,240 But your thesis linking caste in Germany 672 00:49:47,365 --> 00:49:50,243 with the United States is flawed. 673 00:49:56,916 --> 00:49:59,168 Maybe it's not exactly the same, 674 00:49:59,293 --> 00:50:01,379 but the thesis of structural similarity 675 00:50:01,504 --> 00:50:03,840 certainly gives context for a framework. 676 00:50:03,965 --> 00:50:07,218 Right, but a framework is not a book, my friends. 677 00:50:07,343 --> 00:50:11,180 She is trying to connect the United States to Germany, 678 00:50:11,305 --> 00:50:12,557 but it doesn't fit. 679 00:50:12,682 --> 00:50:14,934 It's as if you're trying 680 00:50:15,059 --> 00:50:17,270 to "fit a square inside the circle," as they say. 681 00:50:20,231 --> 00:50:22,859 I would just like you to note for yourself 682 00:50:22,984 --> 00:50:27,155 that American slavery is rooted in subjugation, 683 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,325 dominating Blacks for the purposes of capitalism, 684 00:50:31,451 --> 00:50:35,830 using bodies and labour for profit. 685 00:50:35,955 --> 00:50:39,709 But for the Jews during the Holocaust, 686 00:50:39,834 --> 00:50:44,088 the end call was not subjugation, 687 00:50:44,213 --> 00:50:46,799 it was extermination. 688 00:50:46,924 --> 00:50:49,051 "Kill them all. 689 00:50:49,177 --> 00:50:51,637 Wipe them off the face of the Earth. 690 00:50:51,763 --> 00:50:55,266 There's no need for them here." 691 00:50:55,391 --> 00:50:58,811 It's different. 692 00:50:58,936 --> 00:51:02,774 I say, leave Jewish folks alone. 693 00:51:02,899 --> 00:51:04,817 They're fine. They don't need you. 694 00:51:04,942 --> 00:51:07,153 Write about us, Isabel. 695 00:51:07,278 --> 00:51:09,197 I am writing about us. 696 00:51:09,322 --> 00:51:11,574 I just... 697 00:51:11,699 --> 00:51:14,035 I couldn't fully explain 698 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,037 - what was in my head. - You better than me. 699 00:51:16,162 --> 00:51:17,955 Because I would have had words. 700 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,081 She was rude. 701 00:51:19,207 --> 00:51:20,917 I had words. 702 00:51:21,042 --> 00:51:22,502 I had a ton of words. 703 00:51:22,627 --> 00:51:24,796 Wow. And none of them were, 704 00:51:24,921 --> 00:51:28,883 "I'm the right one on the wrong day, baby"? 705 00:51:29,008 --> 00:51:30,510 Yeah, well, I'm still my mother's child, 706 00:51:30,635 --> 00:51:32,678 - and that wouldn't have happened. - I know. 707 00:51:32,804 --> 00:51:36,557 You never could bag back, even when we were kids. 708 00:51:36,682 --> 00:51:38,309 Always thinking about your comeback 709 00:51:38,434 --> 00:51:39,936 the next day. 710 00:51:40,061 --> 00:51:43,231 "I know what I should have said was..." 711 00:51:45,358 --> 00:51:47,360 What if Brett had been there last night? 712 00:51:50,780 --> 00:51:52,365 Poor lady. 713 00:51:52,490 --> 00:51:54,742 Probably would still be there, 714 00:51:54,867 --> 00:51:56,494 confronting. 715 00:51:59,956 --> 00:52:00,957 Afternoon. 716 00:52:01,082 --> 00:52:02,750 Hi, afternoon. 717 00:52:02,875 --> 00:52:04,752 Some unwanted visitors, huh? 718 00:52:04,877 --> 00:52:08,381 - Looks like they even built a guesthouse. 719 00:52:08,506 --> 00:52:10,883 I'm putting these out in the backyard to empty out. 720 00:52:11,008 --> 00:52:13,344 Just have your gardener pick 'em up in a day or two. 721 00:52:13,469 --> 00:52:15,930 Sir. Sir. 722 00:52:16,055 --> 00:52:17,640 Sir, I don't want that. 723 00:52:17,765 --> 00:52:21,143 I'd rather not have those nests in my yard. 724 00:52:21,269 --> 00:52:23,145 I have dogs, 725 00:52:23,271 --> 00:52:25,314 and that spray can't be good for them. 726 00:52:25,439 --> 00:52:27,316 It's fine, won't hurt 'em. 727 00:52:32,697 --> 00:52:34,031 Hey. 728 00:52:34,156 --> 00:52:35,783 Can I help? 729 00:52:35,908 --> 00:52:38,286 - Can I just... - Yes, go ahead. 730 00:52:38,411 --> 00:52:39,954 Excuse me. 731 00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:41,831 She doesn't want it back there. Did you...? 732 00:52:41,956 --> 00:52:43,249 Did you not hear what she said? 733 00:52:43,374 --> 00:52:45,001 Yeah, but I can't take it with me today. 734 00:52:45,126 --> 00:52:46,794 - My bins are full. - Okay. Well, 735 00:52:46,919 --> 00:52:49,839 I guess we're just gonna have to figure something out then, right? 736 00:52:49,964 --> 00:52:51,090 I mean, you didn't... 737 00:52:51,215 --> 00:52:54,844 you didn't remove that for free, did you? 738 00:52:54,969 --> 00:52:58,180 No. Right? 739 00:52:58,306 --> 00:53:00,474 - No, I didn't. - So, look, if this is your tree, 740 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,435 you go ahead and you leave that wherever you'd like. 741 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,770 But if you do want to get paid for your work, 742 00:53:04,896 --> 00:53:06,814 you're gonna have to finish the job. 743 00:53:13,279 --> 00:53:14,864 Appreciate the cooperation. 744 00:53:19,243 --> 00:53:21,287 Did I just mansplain? 745 00:53:23,581 --> 00:53:26,876 - Well, you asked for permission, so... - Right. 746 00:53:27,001 --> 00:53:28,377 And if you hadn't... 747 00:53:28,502 --> 00:53:31,047 I'd be in a white saviour mode, right? 748 00:53:31,172 --> 00:53:32,924 - What do you know about that? 749 00:53:33,049 --> 00:53:34,550 Oh, hey. Well, break bad habits, 750 00:53:34,675 --> 00:53:37,219 you never gonna get broke, right? 751 00:53:40,389 --> 00:53:42,266 Well, you asked for permission, 752 00:53:42,391 --> 00:53:44,101 so we'll just call it being neighbourly. 753 00:53:44,226 --> 00:53:46,687 Okay. Let's... let's do that. 754 00:53:49,106 --> 00:53:51,776 I haven't seen your mom and dad on their walks for a while. 755 00:53:51,901 --> 00:53:53,611 - How are they doing? - You know, 756 00:53:53,736 --> 00:53:55,071 they're slowing down. Thank you. 757 00:53:55,196 --> 00:53:57,907 But they're having the conversation about moving 758 00:53:58,032 --> 00:53:59,408 to Florida. 759 00:53:59,533 --> 00:54:03,245 But they're hanging in, you know. 760 00:54:03,371 --> 00:54:05,581 - My mom, too. - Mmm. 761 00:54:05,706 --> 00:54:07,249 I get it. 762 00:54:09,835 --> 00:54:13,255 My mom made me promise I'd come by today. It's... 763 00:54:13,381 --> 00:54:16,592 It's my birthday, so... 764 00:54:16,717 --> 00:54:18,844 Wait... 765 00:54:18,970 --> 00:54:20,638 - Today is your birthday? - Yeah. 766 00:54:20,763 --> 00:54:23,808 - Today is your birthday? - It is. 767 00:54:23,933 --> 00:54:25,476 - Yes, she... - Oh. 768 00:54:25,601 --> 00:54:29,146 She made me a cake. Like I was a little kid. 769 00:54:29,271 --> 00:54:31,816 'Cause she still thinks you're her baby. 770 00:54:31,941 --> 00:54:33,067 I think it's sweet. 771 00:54:33,192 --> 00:54:35,903 Hmm. 772 00:54:36,028 --> 00:54:37,029 Um... 773 00:54:37,154 --> 00:54:40,616 Happy birthday... 774 00:54:40,741 --> 00:54:43,786 It's Brett. 775 00:54:43,911 --> 00:54:45,788 - I'm Isabel. - Yeah, I know. 776 00:54:51,085 --> 00:54:53,170 And I think birthdays are a big deal. 777 00:54:53,295 --> 00:54:55,631 - Do you? Wow. - Yes, I do. 778 00:54:55,756 --> 00:54:58,009 - Not me, honestly, but... - They should be. 779 00:54:58,134 --> 00:54:59,051 - Really? - Yes. 780 00:54:59,176 --> 00:55:00,177 Okay. 781 00:55:04,432 --> 00:55:06,350 Will you come over? 782 00:55:06,475 --> 00:55:07,977 Come have a slice of cake with us, 783 00:55:08,102 --> 00:55:09,812 you know, that would make my mom so happy. 784 00:55:09,937 --> 00:55:13,315 And... And, you know, it would make the birthday 785 00:55:13,441 --> 00:55:17,361 a big deal, because I don't have any idea how to do that. 786 00:55:24,827 --> 00:55:26,996 Well, I haven't seen your mom and dad for a while. 787 00:55:27,121 --> 00:55:31,042 - There you go. - Yeah. 788 00:55:31,167 --> 00:55:32,251 I'll come in and say hi. 789 00:55:32,376 --> 00:55:33,544 - Yeah? - Yeah. 790 00:55:33,669 --> 00:55:34,920 Wow. 791 00:55:35,046 --> 00:55:38,549 - Okay. - Oh, God. 792 00:55:38,674 --> 00:55:40,384 - What? - Nothing, what? 793 00:55:40,509 --> 00:55:42,845 Come on, let's go eat some cake. 794 00:55:42,970 --> 00:55:45,014 - She makes a mean cake, too. - Really? 795 00:55:45,139 --> 00:55:46,974 Oh, yeah, she's got the layers going. 796 00:55:47,099 --> 00:55:49,310 - What kind are we talking about? - We're talking about, I mean... 797 00:55:49,435 --> 00:55:51,687 Hopefully, there's not gonna be, like, a fire engine on it 798 00:55:51,812 --> 00:55:54,440 like when I was seven, you never know with my mom. 799 00:57:39,712 --> 00:57:44,884 These are the minutes from the meeting in 1934. 800 00:57:45,009 --> 00:57:49,096 15 months after the meeting, they become law. 801 00:57:49,221 --> 00:57:51,140 - Jim Crow laws. - Yes. 802 00:57:51,265 --> 00:57:53,726 - American race laws. - Yes. 803 00:57:53,851 --> 00:57:55,978 It's mind-blowing. 804 00:58:12,995 --> 00:58:15,080 "Our problem is different. 805 00:58:15,206 --> 00:58:18,918 Their problem is... 806 00:58:19,043 --> 00:58:23,297 negroes with nothing to build upon. 807 00:58:23,422 --> 00:58:27,259 A problem that plays no part for us here in Germany. 808 00:58:27,384 --> 00:58:30,429 Our problem is the Jews, 809 00:58:30,554 --> 00:58:32,806 who must be kept enduringly apart." 810 00:58:32,932 --> 00:58:35,559 - What is this? - That is a transcript 811 00:58:35,684 --> 00:58:37,728 of a meeting that I saw a picture of, 812 00:58:37,853 --> 00:58:42,316 where Nazi lawyers were studying American law and customs 813 00:58:42,441 --> 00:58:45,402 to figure out how to pull off the Holocaust. 814 00:58:45,527 --> 00:58:49,698 Our problem is the Jews who must be kept enduringly apart, 815 00:58:49,823 --> 00:58:51,575 since there's no doubt that they represent 816 00:58:51,700 --> 00:58:53,077 a foreign body in the Volk. 817 00:58:53,202 --> 00:58:55,537 And segregation will never achieve the goal 818 00:58:55,663 --> 00:58:57,998 as long as the Jews have economic power 819 00:58:58,123 --> 00:59:00,876 in the German fatherland as they do have now. 820 00:59:01,001 --> 00:59:05,047 As long as they have the most beautiful automobiles, 821 00:59:05,172 --> 00:59:08,008 - the most beautiful motorboats... - Mm-hmm. 822 00:59:08,133 --> 00:59:10,177 As long as they play a prominent role 823 00:59:10,302 --> 00:59:12,596 in the pleasure spots and resorts 824 00:59:12,721 --> 00:59:15,057 and everywhere that costs money. 825 00:59:15,182 --> 00:59:17,601 This can only be achieved through measures 826 00:59:17,726 --> 00:59:22,481 that forbids sexual mixing of a Jew and a German, 827 00:59:22,606 --> 00:59:24,233 and imposes criminal punishment. 828 00:59:24,358 --> 00:59:27,111 We must answer the question today 829 00:59:27,236 --> 00:59:30,781 as to whether laws that the Reich will institute 830 00:59:30,906 --> 00:59:34,159 should declare only the separation of races, 831 00:59:34,285 --> 00:59:38,539 or if it should declare the superiority of one 832 00:59:38,664 --> 00:59:41,125 and the inferiority of others. 833 00:59:46,255 --> 00:59:48,507 In the fall of 1933, 834 00:59:48,632 --> 00:59:51,176 Allison Davis and his wife, Elizabeth, 835 00:59:51,302 --> 00:59:55,931 cut short their advanced studies at the University of Berlin, 836 00:59:56,056 --> 01:00:00,144 and fled Germany when Hitler took power. 837 01:00:00,269 --> 01:00:02,062 Well, we finally got proof 838 01:00:02,187 --> 01:00:05,065 that one landowner named Bailey has been whipping sharecroppers. 839 01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:06,984 Bailey's wife told me 840 01:00:07,109 --> 01:00:09,153 that's the way to manage them when they get too "uppity"? 841 01:00:09,278 --> 01:00:11,405 We heard about a tenant farmer, one county over, 842 01:00:11,530 --> 01:00:14,408 who was beaten so badly by a store merchant, he can't bring in a crop. 843 01:00:14,533 --> 01:00:15,993 We're headin' over there tomorrow. 844 01:00:16,118 --> 01:00:17,202 Do you know what sparked that? 845 01:00:17,328 --> 01:00:19,038 The Negro man asked for a receipt. 846 01:00:19,163 --> 01:00:21,040 Beat him right there in the store. 847 01:00:21,165 --> 01:00:25,711 It inspired him to study the process of injustice. 848 01:00:25,836 --> 01:00:30,299 This gave Dr. Davis new insight into the nature of hate. 849 01:00:30,424 --> 01:00:33,177 The other half of their team was a white couple 850 01:00:33,302 --> 01:00:35,763 named Burleigh and Mary Gardner, 851 01:00:35,888 --> 01:00:38,724 also Harvard anthropologists. 852 01:00:38,849 --> 01:00:43,020 The mission was quietly revolutionary. 853 01:00:43,145 --> 01:00:46,148 Together, all four would embed themselves 854 01:00:46,273 --> 01:00:49,485 in an isolated Southern town from both sides 855 01:00:49,610 --> 01:00:52,780 of the caste divide. 856 01:00:52,905 --> 01:00:55,866 One breach of a social order could cost them 857 01:00:55,991 --> 01:00:57,409 all their lives. 858 01:00:59,953 --> 01:01:01,789 And this was exactly what they were doing 859 01:01:01,914 --> 01:01:04,708 in Natchez, Mississippi, 860 01:01:04,833 --> 01:01:08,212 breaching the social order to study the social hierarchy 861 01:01:08,337 --> 01:01:10,756 of the South. 862 01:01:10,881 --> 01:01:12,341 A mission that would render them 863 01:01:12,466 --> 01:01:14,134 undercover investigators 864 01:01:14,259 --> 01:01:17,262 in order to fit into the community. 865 01:01:17,388 --> 01:01:19,348 This would be one of the first studies 866 01:01:19,473 --> 01:01:21,100 of its kind. 867 01:01:21,225 --> 01:01:23,936 Neither couple fully knew what they were 868 01:01:24,061 --> 01:01:27,439 getting themselves into. 869 01:01:27,564 --> 01:01:29,358 Out in public, 870 01:01:29,483 --> 01:01:34,488 they had to remain in character at all times. 871 01:01:34,613 --> 01:01:37,908 With the Davises required to show deference 872 01:01:38,033 --> 01:01:40,244 to the Gardners and never give the appearance 873 01:01:40,369 --> 01:01:44,706 that they were, in fact, colleagues in the trenches, 874 01:01:44,832 --> 01:01:48,377 they had to keep to their own caste performance. 875 01:01:48,502 --> 01:01:52,339 Everyone had to play the part expected of them. 876 01:01:52,464 --> 01:01:54,591 They don't need to be out on these streets. 877 01:01:54,716 --> 01:01:56,218 You seen 'em around before? 878 01:01:56,343 --> 01:01:57,678 Oh, yeah. 879 01:01:57,803 --> 01:01:59,805 The monkey's getting too big for his britches. 880 01:01:59,930 --> 01:02:01,265 Hmm. 881 01:02:01,390 --> 01:02:02,975 - Might've to train him. 882 01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:04,017 Come on. 883 01:02:07,479 --> 01:02:09,773 I don't see how we stay much longer. 884 01:02:09,898 --> 01:02:11,316 Our neighbour practically invited us 885 01:02:11,442 --> 01:02:12,651 to a lynching yesterday. 886 01:02:12,776 --> 01:02:15,487 And Allison, there've been some... 887 01:02:15,612 --> 01:02:18,574 some unkind things said about you. 888 01:02:18,699 --> 01:02:21,076 I can't be sure these folks don't get in mind 889 01:02:21,201 --> 01:02:22,119 and do something. 890 01:02:22,244 --> 01:02:23,662 We're seeing similar suspicion, 891 01:02:23,787 --> 01:02:25,205 - we should consider. - Not yet. 892 01:02:25,330 --> 01:02:27,207 - Allison. - You're getting into the wide inner circle 893 01:02:27,332 --> 01:02:28,792 - of this town... - It's not worth our safety. 894 01:02:28,917 --> 01:02:32,004 ...and that is what we need to observe. 895 01:02:32,129 --> 01:02:34,006 We're close. 896 01:02:34,131 --> 01:02:36,008 The two couples kept on the move, 897 01:02:36,133 --> 01:02:40,804 constantly changing clandestine locations for safety. 898 01:02:40,929 --> 01:02:42,973 They couldn't go to each other's homes. 899 01:02:43,098 --> 01:02:46,560 Mixing of races was not allowed publicly 900 01:02:46,685 --> 01:02:49,813 in any form except subservience. 901 01:02:52,608 --> 01:02:58,447 "A most striking tenet of their embrace of supremacy 902 01:02:58,572 --> 01:03:01,533 is deference." 903 01:03:01,658 --> 01:03:04,495 That should be the core of the chapter, don't you think? 904 01:03:04,620 --> 01:03:07,122 Maybe you're right. 905 01:03:07,247 --> 01:03:09,291 Deference goes beyond mere observance 906 01:03:09,416 --> 01:03:11,585 of certain formalities. 907 01:03:11,710 --> 01:03:13,462 We call them "sir" 908 01:03:13,587 --> 01:03:15,506 and they call us "boy" and "gal." 909 01:03:15,631 --> 01:03:16,924 Exactly. 910 01:03:17,049 --> 01:03:19,259 Never contradicting whites. 911 01:03:19,384 --> 01:03:21,011 Always agreeing with them. 912 01:03:21,136 --> 01:03:24,389 Evenin'. 913 01:03:24,515 --> 01:03:27,559 - Hey! - Y'all eat? 914 01:03:27,684 --> 01:03:30,938 Been out here readin' and writin' for hours. 915 01:03:33,524 --> 01:03:35,442 Greens with fatback gonna get cold. 916 01:03:35,567 --> 01:03:37,945 Hey, now, ain't gotta tell me twice. 917 01:03:38,070 --> 01:03:40,405 No. Yes, ma'am. Can't wait to try them greens. 918 01:03:41,532 --> 01:03:42,533 We'll be there. 919 01:03:45,244 --> 01:03:46,203 All right. 920 01:04:07,766 --> 01:04:09,351 Hey! 921 01:04:09,476 --> 01:04:11,436 Hi! 922 01:04:51,143 --> 01:04:53,437 The American material gives us 923 01:04:53,562 --> 01:04:56,106 a path to an answer. 924 01:04:56,231 --> 01:05:01,403 Yeah. America has succeeded here. 925 01:05:01,528 --> 01:05:04,531 Their legislation does not base itself 926 01:05:04,656 --> 01:05:08,118 on the mere idea of racial difference. 927 01:05:08,243 --> 01:05:11,038 But to the extent this legislation is aimed at Negroes, 928 01:05:11,163 --> 01:05:14,207 it bases itself absolutely 929 01:05:14,333 --> 01:05:16,293 on the idea of inferiority. 930 01:05:16,418 --> 01:05:20,088 Well, Germans are already convinced that the Jews 931 01:05:20,213 --> 01:05:23,467 are an inferior race. 932 01:05:23,592 --> 01:05:25,927 German laws should reflect that. 933 01:05:26,053 --> 01:05:29,097 Precisely. 934 01:05:29,222 --> 01:05:31,933 I am of the opinion that we can proceed 935 01:05:32,059 --> 01:05:35,979 with the same primitivity as the American states. 936 01:05:36,104 --> 01:05:39,107 Such a procedure would be... 937 01:05:39,232 --> 01:05:42,527 crude legally, 938 01:05:42,653 --> 01:05:44,571 but it would suffice. 939 01:05:47,324 --> 01:05:49,242 The Nazi blueprint, 940 01:05:49,368 --> 01:05:53,080 for the extermination of millions of people, 941 01:05:53,205 --> 01:05:56,875 was directly patterned after America's enslavement 942 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,961 and segregation of Black people. 943 01:06:00,087 --> 01:06:04,424 - America taught the Nazis? - Caste in America. 944 01:06:04,549 --> 01:06:09,179 In Germany, it functions the same. 945 01:06:09,304 --> 01:06:11,056 The outcomes might be different, 946 01:06:11,181 --> 01:06:12,724 like Sabine said. 947 01:06:12,849 --> 01:06:15,560 But it is the same. 948 01:06:15,686 --> 01:06:17,896 I think that the caste system in India, 949 01:06:18,021 --> 01:06:20,857 I think that there is a connection there too, 950 01:06:20,982 --> 01:06:24,736 but... the interconnectedness. 951 01:06:24,861 --> 01:06:26,279 That is my point. 952 01:06:26,405 --> 01:06:28,907 That is what I'm saying. 953 01:06:29,032 --> 01:06:29,950 Come here. 954 01:06:50,220 --> 01:06:52,347 {\an8}We proudly bestow this Ambedkar Award 955 01:06:52,472 --> 01:06:54,057 {\an8}to Dr. Suraj Yengde, 956 01:06:54,182 --> 01:06:56,935 {\an8}postdoctoral fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School. 957 01:07:36,266 --> 01:07:39,519 Come on, win it! Come on, win it! 958 01:07:50,238 --> 01:07:53,074 Nathaniel, I know it's gonna be worth the wait. 959 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,703 Give it to me. 960 01:07:56,828 --> 01:07:59,080 Carol, can you finish uncovering this one? 961 01:07:59,206 --> 01:08:00,207 I got it, baby. 962 01:08:00,332 --> 01:08:01,708 This chicken looks good. 963 01:08:05,170 --> 01:08:06,630 What? 964 01:08:06,755 --> 01:08:08,632 - Respectfully... - Yeah. 965 01:08:08,757 --> 01:08:13,220 We and everybody are just wondering about an ETA. 966 01:08:13,345 --> 01:08:15,680 The ETA is when I say it's ready, 967 01:08:15,806 --> 01:08:16,807 respectfully. 968 01:08:16,932 --> 01:08:19,810 Yes, ma'am. 969 01:08:19,935 --> 01:08:22,395 - Hi, Isabel. - Hello. 970 01:08:22,521 --> 01:08:24,314 - How you been? - I've been all right. 971 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:25,899 Yeah, how are you holding up? 972 01:08:26,024 --> 01:08:27,400 All is well. 973 01:08:27,526 --> 01:08:28,944 How are you two? 974 01:08:29,069 --> 01:08:30,028 We're good. 975 01:08:30,153 --> 01:08:31,112 - Everything's good. - Starvin'. 976 01:08:33,073 --> 01:08:35,992 I wanted to ask if you knew one of my professors, 977 01:08:36,117 --> 01:08:37,285 Dr. Montgomery? 978 01:08:37,410 --> 01:08:40,205 I think he studies the same things you do. 979 01:08:40,330 --> 01:08:44,918 Oh, no. But I'm not keeping up like I used to, so... 980 01:08:45,043 --> 01:08:48,547 Of course. Well, he is a smart man, 981 01:08:48,672 --> 01:08:50,090 a nice older gentleman. 982 01:08:50,215 --> 01:08:51,925 I thought you might like to meet him. 983 01:08:52,050 --> 01:08:56,847 He is handsome for his age, Black. 984 01:08:56,972 --> 01:09:00,141 Why don't the two of you take this over to the Uno table? 985 01:09:00,267 --> 01:09:01,601 And tell them we startin'. 986 01:09:01,726 --> 01:09:03,687 - Okay. - Okay. 987 01:09:03,812 --> 01:09:06,690 Boy. 988 01:09:06,815 --> 01:09:08,066 They mean well. 989 01:09:08,191 --> 01:09:11,820 You know, Brett always looked forward to these. 990 01:09:11,945 --> 01:09:14,322 You and Mama were the only ones that let him in. 991 01:09:14,447 --> 01:09:15,949 Folks weren't mean. 992 01:09:16,074 --> 01:09:19,160 I know, but there was always... that. 993 01:09:19,286 --> 01:09:20,579 "When is she gonna leave him 994 01:09:20,704 --> 01:09:22,455 and find herself a good brother?" 995 01:09:22,581 --> 01:09:26,293 Now, these containers, these containers we're in. 996 01:09:26,418 --> 01:09:28,211 We, we... Maybe the... 997 01:09:28,336 --> 01:09:30,672 Maybe the label says, "Black woman." 998 01:09:30,797 --> 01:09:32,424 Maybe the label says, "White man, or Asian." 999 01:09:32,549 --> 01:09:34,634 Hey! Fix your face. 1000 01:09:34,759 --> 01:09:36,428 You're too young for all that. 1001 01:09:36,553 --> 01:09:38,471 You read the label and we think we know 1002 01:09:38,597 --> 01:09:40,181 what's on the inside. 1003 01:09:40,307 --> 01:09:42,726 Y'all can eat now. Mm-hmm. 1004 01:09:42,851 --> 01:09:44,603 We trust the label. 1005 01:09:44,728 --> 01:09:46,688 We put the container on the shelf. 1006 01:09:46,813 --> 01:09:48,064 And that's it. 1007 01:09:48,189 --> 01:09:50,734 That's it. 1008 01:09:50,859 --> 01:09:52,193 Who need a kiss for good luck? 1009 01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:54,362 - Me. - 'Cause that hand is trash. 1010 01:09:56,781 --> 01:09:58,742 Come on, Mama, give me some sugar. 1011 01:09:58,867 --> 01:10:00,243 There you go. Thank you, baby. 1012 01:10:00,368 --> 01:10:01,995 Okay, so now go ahead, I'm listenin'. 1013 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,706 I think that's what my book is about. 1014 01:10:04,831 --> 01:10:08,668 Oh. Okay. 1015 01:10:08,793 --> 01:10:11,671 I forgot, which one is yours, which one is mine? 1016 01:10:11,796 --> 01:10:13,256 This one is mine. 1017 01:10:13,381 --> 01:10:15,091 Okay. Oh, here you go. 1018 01:10:15,216 --> 01:10:19,888 So, your book is about interracial relationships. 1019 01:10:20,013 --> 01:10:22,891 Mm, no, no. It's about... 1020 01:10:23,016 --> 01:10:24,601 it's about caste. 1021 01:10:24,726 --> 01:10:31,858 It's a phenomenon of placing one group above another group. 1022 01:10:31,983 --> 01:10:33,401 In a hierarchy. 1023 01:10:33,526 --> 01:10:36,154 And the consequences to its victims 1024 01:10:36,279 --> 01:10:40,867 and presumed beneficiaries. 1025 01:10:40,992 --> 01:10:42,577 Um... 1026 01:10:42,702 --> 01:10:44,412 One more time in English? 1027 01:10:44,537 --> 01:10:48,458 A little Pulitzer Prize-less, if you can. 1028 01:10:48,583 --> 01:10:50,752 I can! 1029 01:10:50,877 --> 01:10:53,171 Okay, well, then do it. Make it plain. 1030 01:10:53,296 --> 01:10:55,256 Because the stuff you were saying about the Nazis 1031 01:10:55,382 --> 01:10:56,883 got me all twisted around. 1032 01:10:57,008 --> 01:10:58,802 How is that in the same book about Brett? 1033 01:10:58,927 --> 01:11:01,346 I don't get it. 1034 01:11:01,471 --> 01:11:04,641 Do you think slavery was a system 1035 01:11:04,766 --> 01:11:07,185 of terrorism and torture 1036 01:11:07,310 --> 01:11:10,480 that the Europeans used to profit off the labour 1037 01:11:10,605 --> 01:11:14,109 of Black people who they considered inferior? 1038 01:11:14,234 --> 01:11:16,569 Yeah. Hell yes, it was. 1039 01:11:16,695 --> 01:11:18,488 - No. - Don't shake your head, it was! 1040 01:11:18,613 --> 01:11:20,198 No, they made it all up. 1041 01:11:20,323 --> 01:11:22,117 Your girl Toni Morrison said, 1042 01:11:22,242 --> 01:11:25,745 "Why would you give your child to be nursed and raised 1043 01:11:25,870 --> 01:11:27,664 by people who you think aren't human, 1044 01:11:27,789 --> 01:11:29,165 who are animals?" 1045 01:11:29,290 --> 01:11:32,252 - Yes, Toni. - Yes, Toni. 1046 01:11:32,377 --> 01:11:34,921 It was all lies. They knew we weren't inferior, 1047 01:11:35,046 --> 01:11:38,133 but they magnified, they magnified the myths. 1048 01:11:38,258 --> 01:11:41,678 They codify them, set them in stone, 1049 01:11:41,803 --> 01:11:45,557 in systems, in our laws, 1050 01:11:45,682 --> 01:11:49,728 in our healthcare, in where we live, how we learned, 1051 01:11:49,853 --> 01:11:54,899 the kind of work that we do, even our food. 1052 01:11:55,025 --> 01:11:57,777 - Racism at its finest. - Mm-hmm. 1053 01:11:57,902 --> 01:12:00,488 No, it's caste. 1054 01:12:00,613 --> 01:12:03,408 Everything you just said was racist. 1055 01:12:03,533 --> 01:12:05,118 Okay. Well, if it's racist, 1056 01:12:05,243 --> 01:12:08,538 then why is the same thing happening in India? 1057 01:12:08,663 --> 01:12:11,624 They're all brown. They're all Indian. 1058 01:12:11,750 --> 01:12:15,670 Marion, right now to this day, 1059 01:12:15,795 --> 01:12:18,089 there is a system in India 1060 01:12:18,214 --> 01:12:22,052 where generations of people are forced to clean sewers 1061 01:12:22,177 --> 01:12:25,221 with their hands, 1062 01:12:25,346 --> 01:12:28,767 their shit, with their hands. 1063 01:12:28,892 --> 01:12:31,227 They are beneath the lowest of the hierarchy. 1064 01:12:31,352 --> 01:12:33,605 They're called Dalits. 1065 01:12:33,730 --> 01:12:38,151 At one point, they were forced to tie brooms 1066 01:12:38,276 --> 01:12:39,694 around their waists because 1067 01:12:39,819 --> 01:12:42,989 their shadows were supposedly polluted. 1068 01:12:43,114 --> 01:12:44,949 - Hmm. - Their shadows. 1069 01:12:45,075 --> 01:12:48,411 They had to sweep behind themselves 1070 01:12:48,536 --> 01:12:50,663 when they walked. 1071 01:12:50,789 --> 01:12:54,626 How is it racist if they're all the same race? 1072 01:12:54,751 --> 01:12:58,713 Okay, do you think that Jews are white? 1073 01:12:58,838 --> 01:13:00,423 Definitely. 1074 01:13:00,548 --> 01:13:01,925 The majority are. 1075 01:13:02,050 --> 01:13:05,053 But the same thing happened to Jews in Germany 1076 01:13:05,178 --> 01:13:06,721 during the Holocaust. 1077 01:13:06,846 --> 01:13:10,183 The Nazis wanted to create an all-white republic, 1078 01:13:10,308 --> 01:13:12,477 but they hated, they hated the Jews. 1079 01:13:12,602 --> 01:13:15,688 So, they said, "How do we make the Jews not white?" 1080 01:13:15,814 --> 01:13:19,317 So, they put them at the bottom of the hierarchy. 1081 01:13:19,442 --> 01:13:20,944 They said that they were greedy. 1082 01:13:21,069 --> 01:13:22,487 They said that they were dishonest. 1083 01:13:22,612 --> 01:13:26,241 They blamed them for Germany losing the First World War. 1084 01:13:26,366 --> 01:13:27,951 They blamed them for everything bad 1085 01:13:28,076 --> 01:13:29,452 that happened in Germany. 1086 01:13:29,577 --> 01:13:30,870 They were dogs. 1087 01:13:30,995 --> 01:13:34,791 "Kill them. Gas them, wipe them out." 1088 01:13:34,916 --> 01:13:39,796 The Jews and the Nazis were the same colour. 1089 01:13:39,921 --> 01:13:42,715 We have to consider oppression in a way 1090 01:13:42,841 --> 01:13:45,218 that does not centralize race. 1091 01:13:45,343 --> 01:13:49,347 We do it here in America, yes, because racism is all we know. 1092 01:13:49,472 --> 01:13:51,641 But these containers, 1093 01:13:51,766 --> 01:13:55,103 the Dalits in India, Jewish people in Germany, 1094 01:13:55,228 --> 01:13:56,729 Black folks in America, 1095 01:13:56,855 --> 01:13:59,983 all these containers have something in common. 1096 01:14:00,108 --> 01:14:03,111 Race is not one of them. 1097 01:14:03,236 --> 01:14:04,362 It's caste. 1098 01:14:12,287 --> 01:14:15,415 Only took you 10 minutes for that comeback. 1099 01:14:17,709 --> 01:14:21,588 Figure out how to say more of what you just said, 1100 01:14:21,713 --> 01:14:23,464 make it plain. 1101 01:14:23,590 --> 01:14:26,759 Talk to real people like you just did to me. 1102 01:14:26,885 --> 01:14:28,720 Real people. 1103 01:14:28,845 --> 01:14:30,555 Real things. 1104 01:14:34,100 --> 01:14:35,393 You know, we met in college. 1105 01:14:35,518 --> 01:14:37,061 So, one time, she comes up and saying, 1106 01:14:37,187 --> 01:14:38,521 -"Can I borrow a pen?" 1107 01:14:38,646 --> 01:14:40,815 You are... nigga! That is not true! 1108 01:14:40,940 --> 01:14:42,650 And he didn't know the day of the final. 1109 01:14:42,775 --> 01:14:44,903 So he's like, "I've seen you in my class..." 1110 01:14:45,028 --> 01:14:46,279 And I'm just going... 1111 01:14:46,404 --> 01:14:48,031 "Do you know exactly what the day of the..." 1112 01:14:48,156 --> 01:14:50,116 And... see. I think you were trying to get to me. 1113 01:14:50,241 --> 01:14:51,868 - Let me let you in on a secret. - Mmm. 1114 01:14:51,993 --> 01:14:53,369 - Okay. - I knew when the final was. 1115 01:14:56,414 --> 01:14:57,415 - That's my baby. - Night, night. 1116 01:14:57,540 --> 01:14:59,083 Night, night. Sweet dreams. 1117 01:14:59,209 --> 01:15:00,627 Isabel. 1118 01:15:00,752 --> 01:15:02,754 Come by more often, will ya? 1119 01:15:02,879 --> 01:15:05,340 We seem to only get the lasagna when you around here. 1120 01:15:07,133 --> 01:15:09,219 I'm hearing that she's stingy with the lasagna. 1121 01:15:09,344 --> 01:15:10,637 I don't know what it is. 1122 01:15:10,762 --> 01:15:13,598 Stop, you are lying too close to Sunday, come on. 1123 01:15:15,516 --> 01:15:16,851 - Love you. - It was good seeing you. 1124 01:15:16,976 --> 01:15:18,937 - Good night. - Good night. Good to see you, too. 1125 01:15:19,062 --> 01:15:21,356 Make sure they bathe. With water, real water. 1126 01:15:21,481 --> 01:15:22,815 Yes, ma'am. 1127 01:15:22,941 --> 01:15:25,735 - And a washcloth. - I'll do my best, baby. 1128 01:15:25,860 --> 01:15:27,946 Shit, do I... What... Do I just... 1129 01:15:28,071 --> 01:15:29,948 Do I talk slow? What do I... 1130 01:15:30,073 --> 01:15:35,578 Okay, so I was in 10th grade, and we had just moved to Texas, 1131 01:15:35,703 --> 01:15:38,665 and my friend and I had this... these walkie-talkies. 1132 01:15:38,790 --> 01:15:40,917 Which, you know, we'd be using between classes, 1133 01:15:41,042 --> 01:15:42,669 to talk or whatever. 1134 01:15:42,794 --> 01:15:44,629 - And this was pre-cell phone, of course. - Right. 1135 01:15:44,754 --> 01:15:46,589 - Right. - Late 80s. 1136 01:15:46,714 --> 01:15:50,426 And... the principal called me to his office, 1137 01:15:50,551 --> 01:15:51,844 he was all suspicious. 1138 01:15:51,970 --> 01:15:53,638 Because he wanted to know why all these people 1139 01:15:53,763 --> 01:15:54,931 were gathered around my locker. 1140 01:15:55,056 --> 01:15:58,726 So I showed him the walkie-talkie. 1141 01:15:58,851 --> 01:16:00,687 And he asked my name. 1142 01:16:00,812 --> 01:16:05,316 And I said, "Miss Hale." 1143 01:16:05,441 --> 01:16:06,734 And he said, 1144 01:16:06,859 --> 01:16:09,445 "What is your first name?" 1145 01:16:09,570 --> 01:16:11,948 "It's Miss." 1146 01:16:12,073 --> 01:16:16,286 I said, "What is your first name?" 1147 01:16:16,411 --> 01:16:19,455 "My name's Miss." 1148 01:16:19,580 --> 01:16:22,500 He's, "I don't have time for all this foolishness, gal. 1149 01:16:22,625 --> 01:16:25,837 What is your real name?" 1150 01:16:25,962 --> 01:16:29,382 I've... I've repeated my damn name four times. 1151 01:16:29,507 --> 01:16:32,385 That's a direct defiance of caste. 1152 01:16:32,510 --> 01:16:34,053 The most personal I've heard yet. 1153 01:16:34,178 --> 01:16:35,471 Can you imagine that? 1154 01:16:35,596 --> 01:16:37,223 A young Black man plotting 1155 01:16:37,348 --> 01:16:40,893 to force the respect of white people. 1156 01:16:41,019 --> 01:16:44,647 Your father tore a loophole through the hierarchy. 1157 01:16:44,772 --> 01:16:46,190 It's brilliant. 1158 01:16:46,316 --> 01:16:48,401 Brilliant. Go on, go on. 1159 01:16:48,526 --> 01:16:51,904 So the principal was furious. 1160 01:16:52,030 --> 01:16:55,033 So he tells his secretary to check my records, 1161 01:16:55,158 --> 01:16:58,619 and, of course, they confirm that my legal name 1162 01:16:58,745 --> 01:17:01,331 is Miss Hale. 1163 01:17:01,456 --> 01:17:04,584 So he says to me, 1164 01:17:04,709 --> 01:17:08,296 "Hale. I don't know any Hales. 1165 01:17:08,421 --> 01:17:09,714 You not from around here. 1166 01:17:09,839 --> 01:17:12,425 Where's your father from?" 1167 01:17:12,550 --> 01:17:16,095 And I said, "He's from Alabama." 1168 01:17:16,220 --> 01:17:17,430 And he said, 1169 01:17:17,555 --> 01:17:20,058 "I knew you weren't from around here. 1170 01:17:20,183 --> 01:17:21,934 You know how I knew? 1171 01:17:22,060 --> 01:17:24,729 And I said, "No." 1172 01:17:24,854 --> 01:17:29,233 And he said, real cold... 1173 01:17:29,359 --> 01:17:32,320 "'Cause you looking me in the eye. 1174 01:17:32,445 --> 01:17:35,073 Coloured folk around here know better." 1175 01:17:40,828 --> 01:17:44,374 I was... 1176 01:17:44,499 --> 01:17:46,000 I was scared. 1177 01:17:49,253 --> 01:17:52,799 - You know, I was a kid. - Yeah. 1178 01:17:52,924 --> 01:17:54,550 I had never felt... 1179 01:17:57,178 --> 01:17:59,055 that... 1180 01:17:59,180 --> 01:18:02,475 that cold glare. 1181 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,436 You know, he was lookin' me right in the eyes, 1182 01:18:05,561 --> 01:18:10,024 demanding that I not look him in the eyes. 1183 01:18:22,370 --> 01:18:23,371 You know, my... 1184 01:18:27,667 --> 01:18:29,043 You know, Daddy would... 1185 01:18:31,879 --> 01:18:34,090 It's okay. It's okay. 1186 01:18:38,678 --> 01:18:42,598 Daddy tell me again and again, 1187 01:18:42,723 --> 01:18:45,726 "Always live up to your name." 1188 01:18:50,189 --> 01:18:51,649 He said, "Miss... 1189 01:18:57,029 --> 01:19:01,075 They don't have the corner on humanity. 1190 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,203 They don't have the corner on femininity. 1191 01:19:04,328 --> 01:19:06,747 They don't have the corner on what it means 1192 01:19:06,873 --> 01:19:10,793 to be a whole, noble, honourable person." 1193 01:19:19,594 --> 01:19:20,887 Far from it. 1194 01:19:30,730 --> 01:19:31,981 Thank you. 1195 01:19:45,912 --> 01:19:46,954 You okay? 1196 01:19:58,966 --> 01:20:00,927 Most relationships end. 1197 01:20:01,052 --> 01:20:03,179 Friendships, romances. 1198 01:20:03,304 --> 01:20:08,142 Divorces. I mean, separations, people grow apart. 1199 01:20:08,267 --> 01:20:09,519 They break. 1200 01:20:16,442 --> 01:20:18,027 But we didn't break. 1201 01:20:48,683 --> 01:20:51,060 We fought that night. 1202 01:20:53,354 --> 01:20:56,732 It was about something so silly, Miss. 1203 01:21:00,736 --> 01:21:03,447 I should have spent more time with her. 1204 01:21:03,573 --> 01:21:04,991 Daddy would want me to fix this. 1205 01:21:05,116 --> 01:21:07,952 For Christ's sake, would you stop, Isabel? 1206 01:21:08,077 --> 01:21:10,288 Just stop. 1207 01:21:10,413 --> 01:21:12,498 It's her idea, she made a choice, 1208 01:21:12,623 --> 01:21:14,500 she's a grown woman, let her make it. 1209 01:21:14,625 --> 01:21:16,544 It's like you hide behind this thing with your mother. 1210 01:21:16,669 --> 01:21:18,254 - Hiding? - I just don't get it. 1211 01:21:18,379 --> 01:21:20,381 - Hide? I'm not hiding. - Hiding. You're hiding. 1212 01:21:20,506 --> 01:21:23,593 I'm not hiding. 1213 01:21:23,718 --> 01:21:25,136 So silly. 1214 01:21:27,930 --> 01:21:30,141 And then... 1215 01:21:30,266 --> 01:21:33,477 he offered me some pasta... 1216 01:21:33,603 --> 01:21:35,354 to apologize. 1217 01:21:45,573 --> 01:21:47,450 You want some of that pasta? 1218 01:21:51,704 --> 01:21:53,331 - Save me some. - Okay. 1219 01:22:00,630 --> 01:22:02,173 And then that was it. 1220 01:22:07,261 --> 01:22:08,471 But we didn't break. 1221 01:22:11,015 --> 01:22:13,809 We did not break. 1222 01:22:13,934 --> 01:22:16,562 We were together. 1223 01:22:16,687 --> 01:22:17,730 Til' the end. 1224 01:22:20,274 --> 01:22:23,194 He should be here, Miss. 1225 01:22:23,319 --> 01:22:26,238 He should be here. 1226 01:22:51,806 --> 01:22:54,767 And the one person... 1227 01:22:54,892 --> 01:22:56,102 that I could talk to about... 1228 01:22:58,813 --> 01:23:00,314 she's gone, too. 1229 01:23:12,243 --> 01:23:14,704 What the hell am I supposed to do now? 1230 01:23:18,416 --> 01:23:19,458 Come, come, come. 1231 01:23:19,583 --> 01:23:21,377 - You're okay. 1232 01:23:25,673 --> 01:23:27,425 I just wanna scream, 1233 01:23:27,550 --> 01:23:29,385 I just wanna scream, I just wanna scream. 1234 01:23:29,510 --> 01:23:33,597 Then scream. Then scream. 1235 01:23:33,723 --> 01:23:35,015 Scream. 1236 01:23:44,900 --> 01:23:48,446 Roomy. Fantastic light. 1237 01:23:48,571 --> 01:23:50,197 Will you update or sell as original? 1238 01:23:52,491 --> 01:23:55,411 I was thinking a fresh coat of paint. 1239 01:23:55,536 --> 01:23:57,037 Vintage it is. 1240 01:23:57,163 --> 01:23:58,581 Yeah. 1241 01:24:10,092 --> 01:24:12,011 There might be water damage there. 1242 01:24:14,346 --> 01:24:17,057 Yes, with everything going on, I just... 1243 01:24:17,183 --> 01:24:18,684 I just basically locked up the house, 1244 01:24:18,809 --> 01:24:20,311 I have to deal with it. 1245 01:24:20,436 --> 01:24:22,480 It's a process. 1246 01:24:22,605 --> 01:24:25,441 Isn't everything? 1247 01:24:25,566 --> 01:24:28,110 So what is the price difference 1248 01:24:28,235 --> 01:24:30,863 between fixing it up and selling it as is? 1249 01:24:30,988 --> 01:24:33,491 - As is? - Yeah. 1250 01:24:33,616 --> 01:24:36,786 You're basically giving this little jewel away. 1251 01:24:36,911 --> 01:24:39,246 The area's hot right now with hipsters. 1252 01:24:39,371 --> 01:24:40,956 And these older homes, when they're fixed up, 1253 01:24:41,081 --> 01:24:43,042 can sometimes double in value. 1254 01:24:43,167 --> 01:24:45,753 If you can put a few thousand towards getting it fixed, 1255 01:24:45,878 --> 01:24:48,130 you would have a competitive situation on your hands 1256 01:24:48,255 --> 01:24:50,007 with multiple bidders. 1257 01:24:54,011 --> 01:24:55,888 You write books, right? 1258 01:24:56,013 --> 01:24:58,224 A book. 1259 01:24:58,349 --> 01:25:01,352 I'm writing another one, but... 1260 01:25:01,477 --> 01:25:05,314 books don't pay as much as people think. 1261 01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,483 I get it. 1262 01:25:07,608 --> 01:25:10,027 Sell as a fixer and don't even worry about it. 1263 01:25:10,152 --> 01:25:12,571 Let someone else do the work. 1264 01:25:12,696 --> 01:25:14,615 So let's discuss the contract. 1265 01:25:14,740 --> 01:25:16,367 Once the property is clear, we'll go ahead 1266 01:25:16,492 --> 01:25:18,494 and do an open house, that way, people can come in 1267 01:25:18,619 --> 01:25:20,830 and view the property and see what they're willing to offer. 1268 01:25:20,955 --> 01:25:23,249 Like I said, we'll get multiple bidders... 1269 01:25:25,543 --> 01:25:27,378 - Who is that? - What? 1270 01:25:27,503 --> 01:25:29,380 They didn't wanna get in trouble. 1271 01:25:32,341 --> 01:25:34,510 Stop. 1272 01:25:34,635 --> 01:25:36,679 She sucked her thumb and peed in the bed 1273 01:25:36,804 --> 01:25:38,764 'til she was 20 years old. 1274 01:25:38,889 --> 01:25:43,435 I'm not... I'm just... Stop. 1275 01:25:43,561 --> 01:25:46,021 So cute. So cute. 1276 01:25:46,146 --> 01:25:48,399 - Mm, mm, mm. 1277 01:25:48,524 --> 01:25:51,610 Look at Mama. 1278 01:25:51,735 --> 01:25:52,653 So cute. 1279 01:25:52,778 --> 01:25:55,322 - So fine. - Yeah. 1280 01:25:55,447 --> 01:25:56,991 How much is it? 1281 01:25:57,116 --> 01:25:58,868 Eh... 1282 01:25:58,993 --> 01:26:02,830 All four estimates are over $10,000. 1283 01:26:02,955 --> 01:26:05,082 - Damn. - Yeah. 1284 01:26:07,459 --> 01:26:09,378 You can't sell the roofless house. 1285 01:26:09,503 --> 01:26:12,923 Well, we'll have to wait til' I get back. 1286 01:26:13,048 --> 01:26:16,677 - You leave when again? - Next month. 1287 01:26:16,802 --> 01:26:19,138 I have so much research to do here, 1288 01:26:19,263 --> 01:26:22,683 and I have to start a new draft soon. 1289 01:26:22,808 --> 01:26:24,643 Do you even know anybody in India? 1290 01:26:24,768 --> 01:26:27,104 Marion, here's Uncle. 1291 01:26:27,229 --> 01:26:29,315 That's the point of travellin'. 1292 01:26:29,440 --> 01:26:31,483 Meeting new people. 1293 01:26:31,609 --> 01:26:34,653 Travelling to places where you are warmly welcomed 1294 01:26:34,778 --> 01:26:39,074 by familiar faces is underrated. 1295 01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:42,536 Well, I might have found an Indian professor 1296 01:26:42,661 --> 01:26:44,622 - who can help me navigate. 1297 01:26:44,747 --> 01:26:48,083 "Might"? 1298 01:26:48,208 --> 01:26:50,127 No, no "might." 1299 01:28:27,433 --> 01:28:29,143 Here you are. 1300 01:28:29,268 --> 01:28:30,394 No, no, no. 1301 01:28:41,155 --> 01:28:44,241 - Thank you. - Thank you, Madam. 1302 01:29:11,101 --> 01:29:13,771 Okay, good. Oh, good. 1303 01:30:09,034 --> 01:30:10,994 Isabel! Isabel! 1304 01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:15,290 Suraj! 1305 01:30:15,415 --> 01:30:16,875 - So good to see you. - Hello, hello. 1306 01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:19,253 Allow me to introduce my esteemed friend... 1307 01:30:19,378 --> 01:30:21,046 - Yes. - ...Professor Ram Kamli. 1308 01:30:21,171 --> 01:30:23,090 - The pleasure is mine. - Thank you, thank you. 1309 01:30:23,215 --> 01:30:25,801 You know what we're gonna do? We're gonna go straight. 1310 01:30:25,926 --> 01:30:27,386 We're gonna walk right there. 1311 01:30:27,511 --> 01:30:29,179 - That's where we gotta go. - We're doing that? 1312 01:30:29,304 --> 01:30:30,222 We're gonna do that. 1313 01:30:30,347 --> 01:30:32,391 - You're excited? - Yes, I am. 1314 01:30:32,516 --> 01:30:35,269 Welcome to India, Isabel. It's so good to have you. 1315 01:30:35,394 --> 01:30:36,603 I'm happy to be here. 1316 01:30:36,728 --> 01:30:38,355 There are signals on all the corners. 1317 01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:40,816 And this is one of the... This is not four-way. 1318 01:30:40,941 --> 01:30:42,526 - This is five-way. - Five-way. 1319 01:30:42,651 --> 01:30:45,279 And if you add a person like me, 1320 01:30:45,404 --> 01:30:46,905 I make my own way. 1321 01:30:47,030 --> 01:30:50,868 - So, it's like six-way. - Six-way? 1322 01:30:50,993 --> 01:30:52,870 Oh my... 1323 01:31:00,919 --> 01:31:02,462 A beautiful market. 1324 01:31:22,524 --> 01:31:24,234 - I like this one. - You like this one? 1325 01:31:26,361 --> 01:31:27,988 She would like this. 1326 01:31:38,207 --> 01:31:41,126 - It's for my cousin. - That look gorgeous. 1327 01:31:41,251 --> 01:31:43,086 Thank you. 1328 01:31:43,212 --> 01:31:45,255 Why is the statue caged? 1329 01:31:45,380 --> 01:31:47,507 Ah. Quite observant. 1330 01:31:47,633 --> 01:31:50,344 He's Babasaheb, the leader of Dalits. 1331 01:31:50,469 --> 01:31:55,098 Isabel, he's Dr. Ambedkar! 1332 01:31:55,224 --> 01:31:57,809 This is the time when he had just completed 1333 01:31:57,935 --> 01:32:00,520 the task of drafting India's constitution. 1334 01:32:00,646 --> 01:32:03,398 There, he's holding it and standing tall. 1335 01:32:03,523 --> 01:32:07,069 You will find these statues all across the country. 1336 01:32:07,194 --> 01:32:10,280 From a busier street, square, parks, 1337 01:32:10,405 --> 01:32:12,366 railway stations, bus stations. 1338 01:32:12,491 --> 01:32:15,619 Even in people's private properties. 1339 01:32:15,744 --> 01:32:20,874 Him standing is an affirmation of our existence. 1340 01:32:20,999 --> 01:32:24,336 To us, he is revered. 1341 01:32:24,461 --> 01:32:27,256 To others, they revile him. 1342 01:32:27,381 --> 01:32:30,842 Dr. Ambedkar statues are one of the most vandalized 1343 01:32:30,968 --> 01:32:32,970 in the country. 1344 01:32:33,095 --> 01:32:36,098 The cage is to keep the vandals away. 1345 01:32:41,603 --> 01:32:44,523 Dr. Ambedkar is more than a champion 1346 01:32:44,648 --> 01:32:47,317 and a hero to the Dalit people. 1347 01:32:47,442 --> 01:32:50,946 He's the hope that lives within us. 1348 01:32:51,071 --> 01:32:52,990 He went to the heart of the problem of caste, 1349 01:32:53,115 --> 01:32:55,325 and he thought purity was lying 1350 01:32:55,450 --> 01:32:59,413 - beneath the artifice of caste... - Mm-hmm. 1351 01:32:59,538 --> 01:33:03,667 And where the human population was chopped 1352 01:33:03,792 --> 01:33:07,421 into what he called "fixed and definite units." 1353 01:33:07,546 --> 01:33:09,965 In America, you have what you call 1354 01:33:10,090 --> 01:33:13,010 the Blacks, the Browns, the Asian, the Whites, and etc. 1355 01:33:13,135 --> 01:33:15,220 Similarly, we have in India, 1356 01:33:15,345 --> 01:33:18,265 where the Dalits are supposed to be at the bottom 1357 01:33:18,390 --> 01:33:19,933 - and the Brahmins at the top. - Mm-hmm. 1358 01:33:20,058 --> 01:33:23,854 And between, there are various units of caste. 1359 01:33:23,979 --> 01:33:28,775 What maintains this unit into continuing of caste system 1360 01:33:28,900 --> 01:33:32,696 is unending violence in the form of rape, 1361 01:33:32,821 --> 01:33:35,407 mutilation and murder. 1362 01:33:35,532 --> 01:33:40,370 In India, a Dalit person is attacked every 15 minutes. 1363 01:33:40,495 --> 01:33:43,332 Every day, 10 Dalit women are raped, 1364 01:33:43,457 --> 01:33:47,586 and these are only the reported cases. 1365 01:33:47,711 --> 01:33:50,589 Rohith Vemula's friends, family and the wider Dalit Movement 1366 01:33:50,714 --> 01:33:53,008 called it an institutional murder. 1367 01:33:53,133 --> 01:33:54,843 And they called it this because it was not 1368 01:33:54,968 --> 01:33:56,553 simply a case of suicide. 1369 01:33:56,678 --> 01:33:58,513 They said that this was an institution 1370 01:33:58,638 --> 01:34:00,515 that was systematically discriminating 1371 01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:01,808 against a young Dalit student. 1372 01:34:01,933 --> 01:34:04,269 And this was important because for a lot of us, 1373 01:34:04,394 --> 01:34:06,480 as young folks who were looking 1374 01:34:06,605 --> 01:34:08,106 for a life of dignity and respect, 1375 01:34:08,231 --> 01:34:10,317 and were looking to education 1376 01:34:10,442 --> 01:34:12,069 and the university to give us that life, 1377 01:34:12,194 --> 01:34:16,490 it showed that the spectre of caste was still haunting us. 1378 01:34:16,615 --> 01:34:20,202 In a world where Dalit people are brutalized, 1379 01:34:20,327 --> 01:34:23,288 simply to keep us in our place, 1380 01:34:23,413 --> 01:34:26,583 Dr. Ambedkar remains our shining light. 1381 01:34:26,708 --> 01:34:31,296 Our guardian, our hero, our father. 1382 01:34:31,421 --> 01:34:33,590 The site of Dr. Ambedkar's last home. 1383 01:34:33,715 --> 01:34:36,093 - It's a museum now. - Ah. 1384 01:34:36,218 --> 01:34:37,886 Quite magnificent. 1385 01:34:38,011 --> 01:34:40,764 As you can see, it's an open-book concept. 1386 01:34:44,434 --> 01:34:47,312 While he is a giant among Dalits, 1387 01:34:47,437 --> 01:34:52,609 the world has failed to acknowledge his genius. 1388 01:34:52,734 --> 01:34:56,071 Dr. Ambedkar was separated from the kids of high caste 1389 01:34:56,196 --> 01:34:58,031 so as not to pollute them. 1390 01:35:03,537 --> 01:35:06,915 As a child, young Bhimrao Ambedkar 1391 01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,626 was not allowed to touch many of the things 1392 01:35:09,751 --> 01:35:12,337 his classmates would touch. 1393 01:35:15,257 --> 01:35:18,343 He was not even allowed to touch water at the school. 1394 01:35:18,468 --> 01:35:20,470 This is because he was considered 1395 01:35:20,595 --> 01:35:22,139 an "untouchable." 1396 01:35:25,100 --> 01:35:29,938 That was the term used for Dalits at the time. 1397 01:35:31,815 --> 01:35:35,026 Young Ambedkar was not allowed to touch or sit 1398 01:35:35,152 --> 01:35:37,404 at a desk during class. 1399 01:35:53,545 --> 01:35:56,298 But he persevered. 1400 01:35:56,423 --> 01:35:59,217 He continued to study and break barriers. 1401 01:36:02,762 --> 01:36:06,224 Dr. Ambedkar earned two PhDs. 1402 01:36:06,349 --> 01:36:09,019 One at Columbia University, 1403 01:36:09,144 --> 01:36:14,149 and the other at the London School of Economics. 1404 01:36:14,274 --> 01:36:20,489 After obtaining his PhDs and passing the bar, 1405 01:36:20,614 --> 01:36:26,870 Dr. Ambedkar returned to India as a heralded scholar. 1406 01:36:26,995 --> 01:36:28,788 We have been carrying on with untouchability 1407 01:36:28,914 --> 01:36:30,457 for the last 2,000 years. 1408 01:36:30,582 --> 01:36:32,417 Nobody has bothered about it. 1409 01:36:32,542 --> 01:36:37,047 You see? Yes, there are some... some disabilities. 1410 01:36:37,172 --> 01:36:39,007 We are very harmful. 1411 01:36:39,132 --> 01:36:40,884 Apparently, people can't take water. 1412 01:36:41,009 --> 01:36:43,929 People can't have land, you see, 1413 01:36:44,054 --> 01:36:46,848 to cultivate and earn their livelihood. 1414 01:36:49,309 --> 01:36:54,439 There is an insistence on conflating caste with race. 1415 01:36:54,564 --> 01:36:56,233 - Oh, yeah. - If I brought you 1416 01:36:56,358 --> 01:36:58,818 to the family reunion, what would you say? 1417 01:36:58,944 --> 01:37:00,070 What would you say to them? 1418 01:37:00,195 --> 01:37:03,990 My cousin Marion. My... my mother. 1419 01:37:07,869 --> 01:37:09,704 What would you say to them 1420 01:37:09,829 --> 01:37:13,959 that's important for them to know... 1421 01:37:14,084 --> 01:37:17,379 about you, about India, 1422 01:37:17,504 --> 01:37:23,134 about caste and our connection? 1423 01:37:23,260 --> 01:37:24,844 Our heroes found the connection. 1424 01:37:24,970 --> 01:37:27,305 And it is up to us to find it again, 1425 01:37:27,430 --> 01:37:31,893 and build upon it in sibling solidarity. 1426 01:37:32,018 --> 01:37:36,022 When Bhimrao Ambedkar was a young Indian graduate student, 1427 01:37:36,147 --> 01:37:38,775 he found himself in New York City. 1428 01:37:38,900 --> 01:37:42,195 Harlem, to be exact. 1429 01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:46,283 He saw kindred spirits among Black people in America. 1430 01:37:46,408 --> 01:37:48,410 Both in the oppression they faced 1431 01:37:48,535 --> 01:37:51,538 and in their survival. 1432 01:37:54,082 --> 01:37:56,251 He immediately recognized the similarities 1433 01:37:56,376 --> 01:37:59,462 between how African Americans were treated 1434 01:37:59,588 --> 01:38:01,881 and the treatment of Dalits. 1435 01:38:05,343 --> 01:38:07,304 Asha, you've been doing some work on this right? 1436 01:38:07,429 --> 01:38:11,850 Yes, my thesis centred on Dr. King's visit to India. 1437 01:38:11,975 --> 01:38:14,936 He saw many of these things first time, 1438 01:38:15,061 --> 01:38:18,148 while he and his wife toured the country. 1439 01:38:18,273 --> 01:38:21,192 I found the way in which he wrote about India 1440 01:38:21,318 --> 01:38:24,321 to be fascinating as someone afflicted by caste 1441 01:38:24,446 --> 01:38:26,698 in their own country. 1442 01:38:26,823 --> 01:38:30,035 I used his essay in the magazine of United States 1443 01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:35,457 as the core of my research. Uh, do you know Ebony Magazine? 1444 01:38:35,582 --> 01:38:37,083 Yes. 1445 01:38:37,208 --> 01:38:38,585 Yes, I know Ebony Magazine. 1446 01:38:38,710 --> 01:38:41,588 Dr. King wrote about India in Ebony? 1447 01:38:41,713 --> 01:38:43,006 Yes. 1448 01:38:43,131 --> 01:38:44,507 July 1959. 1449 01:38:44,633 --> 01:38:48,261 It is quite extraordinary. 1450 01:38:48,386 --> 01:38:51,973 And so, there is a connection between us. 1451 01:38:52,098 --> 01:38:54,601 The African Americans, the Dalits, 1452 01:38:54,726 --> 01:38:56,936 the indigenous people around the world, 1453 01:38:57,062 --> 01:39:00,398 the Palestinian people, the Roma people, Buraku people. 1454 01:39:00,523 --> 01:39:02,400 - Yes. - The outcasts of Africa 1455 01:39:02,525 --> 01:39:03,902 are still fighting for their rights. 1456 01:39:04,027 --> 01:39:06,071 Be it Nigeria, Ghana, Senegal. 1457 01:39:06,196 --> 01:39:09,282 You go to Latin America, you find outcasts 1458 01:39:09,407 --> 01:39:13,036 within the Mexican society or Brazilian society. 1459 01:39:13,161 --> 01:39:14,996 And if we think about our histories 1460 01:39:15,121 --> 01:39:17,582 through the wonderful ability of love, 1461 01:39:17,707 --> 01:39:21,920 the symbols of hate and diets of violence 1462 01:39:22,045 --> 01:39:27,926 will be replaced by compassion, care and solidarity. 1463 01:39:28,051 --> 01:39:32,222 This is the world that we have to imagine 1464 01:39:32,347 --> 01:39:35,266 for ourselves and for others 1465 01:39:35,392 --> 01:39:38,311 who have not yet seen the beauty 1466 01:39:38,436 --> 01:39:40,480 that human beings have to offer. 1467 01:39:44,067 --> 01:39:46,528 One afternoon, I went down to speak 1468 01:39:46,653 --> 01:39:49,197 in the southern part of India, 1469 01:39:49,322 --> 01:39:53,743 and I remember that afternoon that the principal got up 1470 01:39:53,868 --> 01:39:55,787 to introduce me. 1471 01:39:55,912 --> 01:39:59,165 He said, "I would like to present to you 1472 01:39:59,290 --> 01:40:01,334 a fellow untouchable 1473 01:40:01,459 --> 01:40:03,586 from the United States of America." 1474 01:40:03,712 --> 01:40:06,548 And for the moment, I was peeved. I was shocked 1475 01:40:06,673 --> 01:40:10,218 that I would be introduced as an untouchable. 1476 01:40:10,343 --> 01:40:15,765 Pretty soon, my mind ran back across to America. 1477 01:40:15,890 --> 01:40:20,186 And I had to say to myself, I am an untouchable. 1478 01:40:20,311 --> 01:40:23,314 And segregation is evil and sinful 1479 01:40:23,440 --> 01:40:26,317 because it stigmatizes 1480 01:40:26,443 --> 01:40:28,987 the segregated as an untouchable 1481 01:40:29,112 --> 01:40:31,448 in a caste system. 1482 01:40:31,573 --> 01:40:34,325 And this is why I'm convinced 1483 01:40:34,451 --> 01:40:38,913 that we have the moral edict, 1484 01:40:39,038 --> 01:40:40,874 a moral mandate, 1485 01:40:40,999 --> 01:40:47,338 to work to get rid of this unjust and evil system. 1486 01:41:32,300 --> 01:41:36,179 I'll put the phone near her. 1487 01:41:36,304 --> 01:41:37,555 Okay. 1488 01:41:45,021 --> 01:41:46,064 Baby. 1489 01:41:50,944 --> 01:41:53,571 - You're on speaker. Um... 1490 01:41:53,696 --> 01:41:56,699 She's... 1491 01:41:56,825 --> 01:41:58,618 She hasn't been responding to folks. 1492 01:42:02,455 --> 01:42:03,665 I understand. 1493 01:42:10,213 --> 01:42:12,215 Marion. 1494 01:42:12,340 --> 01:42:13,716 It's Isabel. 1495 01:42:16,928 --> 01:42:18,429 Hi, Cousin. 1496 01:42:22,350 --> 01:42:24,185 I called to say goodbye. 1497 01:42:28,314 --> 01:42:32,235 I believe you can hear me. 1498 01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:34,237 You mean so much to me. 1499 01:42:38,825 --> 01:42:43,079 I remember everything you have ever said to me. 1500 01:42:43,204 --> 01:42:46,541 From the time that we were kids 1501 01:42:46,666 --> 01:42:51,129 until the last time I heard your voice. 1502 01:42:51,254 --> 01:42:52,630 I'll never forget it. 1503 01:42:55,925 --> 01:42:57,594 I'll never forget you. 1504 01:43:01,014 --> 01:43:03,308 You will walk with me. 1505 01:43:05,810 --> 01:43:09,606 You will live in me. 1506 01:43:09,731 --> 01:43:11,441 For as long as I'm here. 1507 01:43:15,945 --> 01:43:17,113 Watch over me. 1508 01:43:21,117 --> 01:43:22,994 Cover me, okay? 1509 01:43:26,956 --> 01:43:31,085 I won't see you, but you'll see me. 1510 01:43:34,464 --> 01:43:38,509 There's more to life than what you can see. 1511 01:43:41,262 --> 01:43:43,890 You're going to experience it all. 1512 01:43:51,230 --> 01:43:53,775 I love you. I love you. I love you. 1513 01:44:08,665 --> 01:44:11,042 I could stay around for a bit. 1514 01:44:11,167 --> 01:44:14,295 Don't you dare. You go. 1515 01:44:14,420 --> 01:44:17,090 So you can come home and you can write your stories. 1516 01:44:17,215 --> 01:44:19,467 'Cause folks need to know about this. 1517 01:44:42,865 --> 01:44:44,117 The pillars are working. 1518 01:44:44,242 --> 01:44:46,035 You know, it gives it shape. 1519 01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:47,996 Good, good. 1520 01:44:48,121 --> 01:44:50,581 Then how many of them will there be? 1521 01:44:50,707 --> 01:44:53,042 Six or seven. 1522 01:44:53,167 --> 01:44:55,420 Maybe eight. 1523 01:44:55,545 --> 01:44:57,046 And you are going to make this deadline? 1524 01:44:57,171 --> 01:44:59,007 I am going to make this deadline. 1525 01:44:59,132 --> 01:45:00,425 This self-imposed deadline. 1526 01:45:00,550 --> 01:45:03,094 Well, I don't have anyone to push me anymore, 1527 01:45:03,219 --> 01:45:04,721 so I have to push myself. 1528 01:45:41,632 --> 01:45:45,303 A caste system needs scaffolding 1529 01:45:45,428 --> 01:45:48,681 in order to maintain its hierarchies. 1530 01:45:58,232 --> 01:46:00,568 Dr. Ambedkar wrote, 1531 01:46:00,693 --> 01:46:03,946 "Caste is an artificial chopping up of 1532 01:46:04,072 --> 01:46:06,491 the population into fixed units. 1533 01:46:06,616 --> 01:46:09,827 Each unit is prevented from fusing into another 1534 01:46:09,952 --> 01:46:12,371 through the custom called endogamy." 1535 01:46:13,414 --> 01:46:15,291 Our rehearsing has paid off. 1536 01:46:15,416 --> 01:46:18,753 It's only taken six months to get that twirl down. 1537 01:46:18,878 --> 01:46:20,421 But... 1538 01:46:20,546 --> 01:46:22,048 ...completely worthwhile. 1539 01:46:30,723 --> 01:46:31,974 Let's go again. 1540 01:46:34,310 --> 01:46:35,895 Let me powder my nose first. 1541 01:46:43,528 --> 01:46:46,155 In showing how endogamy is maintained, 1542 01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:51,035 we can prove the genesis and mechanism of caste. 1543 01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:54,247 Endogamy is defined as restricting marriage 1544 01:46:54,372 --> 01:46:56,916 to people within the same caste. 1545 01:47:06,676 --> 01:47:07,885 Have you heard... 1546 01:47:08,010 --> 01:47:11,139 ...they're asking for names and addresses. 1547 01:47:11,264 --> 01:47:12,682 They won't. 1548 01:47:12,807 --> 01:47:14,600 They're looking for artists and people who like jazz. 1549 01:47:14,725 --> 01:47:16,978 I don't believe it. It's all blown out of proportion. 1550 01:47:17,103 --> 01:47:20,231 No. This happened at the Wonder Room last month. 1551 01:47:20,356 --> 01:47:22,233 This is an ironclad foundation 1552 01:47:22,358 --> 01:47:25,695 of any caste system. 1553 01:47:25,820 --> 01:47:28,906 From ancient India, to the Nazi regime, 1554 01:47:29,031 --> 01:47:31,659 to the American colonizers. 1555 01:47:37,748 --> 01:47:41,085 Laugh, dear. 1556 01:47:41,210 --> 01:47:43,337 Laugh right now. 1557 01:47:47,466 --> 01:47:50,428 Endogamy enforces caste boundaries 1558 01:47:50,553 --> 01:47:53,306 by forbidding marriage, sexual relations 1559 01:47:53,431 --> 01:47:55,892 or even the appearance of romantic interest 1560 01:47:56,017 --> 01:47:58,060 across caste lines. 1561 01:47:58,186 --> 01:48:01,564 It builds a firewall between certain people. 1562 01:48:18,539 --> 01:48:22,126 By closing off legal family connection, 1563 01:48:22,251 --> 01:48:25,379 endogamy purposely blocks sense of empathy 1564 01:48:25,504 --> 01:48:27,840 and shared destiny between people. 1565 01:48:31,052 --> 01:48:32,094 Mama! 1566 01:48:37,016 --> 01:48:39,101 Mama! 1567 01:48:47,818 --> 01:48:49,862 It was the caste system, 1568 01:48:49,987 --> 01:48:51,906 through the practice of endogamy, 1569 01:48:52,031 --> 01:48:55,201 which essentially regulated people's romantic choices 1570 01:48:55,326 --> 01:48:57,078 over the course of centuries, 1571 01:48:57,203 --> 01:49:01,749 that created and reinforced the idea of races. 1572 01:49:05,461 --> 01:49:09,006 By permitting only those with similar physical traits 1573 01:49:09,131 --> 01:49:11,092 to legally mate. 1574 01:49:14,679 --> 01:49:18,432 Endogamy laws written and enforced by white men 1575 01:49:18,557 --> 01:49:22,353 designed the population of the United States. 1576 01:49:28,109 --> 01:49:32,196 If you were not a white man and you violated that... 1577 01:49:34,907 --> 01:49:38,953 An unknowable number of lives were lost due to endogamy... 1578 01:49:41,372 --> 01:49:43,541 the defining pillar of caste. 1579 01:49:46,836 --> 01:49:49,505 It triggered the most publicized cases 1580 01:49:49,630 --> 01:49:51,465 of lynchings in America. 1581 01:49:51,590 --> 01:49:55,594 A protocol strictly enforced against Black men 1582 01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:57,763 and white women. 1583 01:49:57,888 --> 01:49:59,515 Front row seat, darlin'. 1584 01:50:10,151 --> 01:50:12,778 One of the foremost scholars of caste 1585 01:50:12,903 --> 01:50:14,572 in America once wrote, 1586 01:50:14,697 --> 01:50:16,699 "Tied to what one looked like, 1587 01:50:16,824 --> 01:50:20,161 membership in either the upper or the lowest caste 1588 01:50:20,286 --> 01:50:22,955 is immutable. 1589 01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:25,374 Fixed from birth to death. 1590 01:50:25,499 --> 01:50:26,917 Inescapable. 1591 01:50:27,043 --> 01:50:32,089 One may neither earn nor wed their way out." 1592 01:50:32,214 --> 01:50:36,093 That scholar was Dr. Allison Davis. 1593 01:50:36,218 --> 01:50:38,471 The Davis and Gardner team emerged 1594 01:50:38,596 --> 01:50:41,265 with perhaps the most comprehensive study, 1595 01:50:41,390 --> 01:50:45,144 to this day, of the American caste system. 1596 01:50:45,269 --> 01:50:47,063 Their book, Deep South, 1597 01:50:47,188 --> 01:50:50,649 is a quietly revolutionary landmark experiment 1598 01:50:50,775 --> 01:50:53,152 in interracial scholarship. 1599 01:50:53,277 --> 01:50:57,531 The Davises and the Gardners remained lifelong friends. 1600 01:51:12,296 --> 01:51:15,591 Nazi Germany, the United States and India 1601 01:51:15,716 --> 01:51:19,637 all reduced Jews, African Americans and Dalits 1602 01:51:19,762 --> 01:51:22,723 to an undifferentiated mass of nameless, 1603 01:51:22,848 --> 01:51:24,642 faceless scapegoats. 1604 01:51:29,438 --> 01:51:32,608 Millennia ago, Dalits were called 1605 01:51:32,733 --> 01:51:35,111 the "untouchables" of India. 1606 01:51:38,072 --> 01:51:43,369 Enforced into the degrading work of manual scavenging, 1607 01:51:43,494 --> 01:51:45,621 the practice of cleaning excrement 1608 01:51:45,746 --> 01:51:48,833 from toilets and open drains by hand 1609 01:51:48,958 --> 01:51:51,877 in exchange for leftover food. 1610 01:51:57,675 --> 01:52:01,762 The only thing that they have to protect their bodies... 1611 01:52:01,887 --> 01:52:05,558 is oil, each other 1612 01:52:05,683 --> 01:52:07,768 and their prayers. 1613 01:52:11,480 --> 01:52:17,361 To refuse is to invite severe punishment or death. 1614 01:52:17,486 --> 01:52:20,281 This persists to this day. 1615 01:52:25,619 --> 01:52:27,913 The trade and sale of African people 1616 01:52:28,038 --> 01:52:32,168 demolished communities, obliterated families 1617 01:52:32,293 --> 01:52:34,837 and tore flesh from spirit. 1618 01:52:39,175 --> 01:52:41,760 Human beings were tortured to death, 1619 01:52:41,886 --> 01:52:43,929 and thrown overboard on slave ships 1620 01:52:44,054 --> 01:52:45,431 during the Middle Passage. 1621 01:52:55,566 --> 01:52:58,402 Upon their arrival at the concentration camps, 1622 01:52:58,527 --> 01:53:00,613 Jews were stripped of the clothing 1623 01:53:00,738 --> 01:53:02,740 of their former lives. 1624 01:53:08,871 --> 01:53:11,707 Their heads were shaved. 1625 01:53:11,832 --> 01:53:13,918 Distinguishing features like sideburns 1626 01:53:14,043 --> 01:53:18,047 or red hair were deleted from them. 1627 01:53:18,172 --> 01:53:21,592 They were no longer personalities to engage with. 1628 01:53:21,717 --> 01:53:23,802 They became a single mass, 1629 01:53:23,928 --> 01:53:26,514 purposely easier for SS officers 1630 01:53:26,639 --> 01:53:28,766 to distance themselves from. 1631 01:53:41,654 --> 01:53:45,824 Indian activists explained that the manual scavenger 1632 01:53:45,950 --> 01:53:49,203 is not a form of employment, but an injustice 1633 01:53:49,328 --> 01:53:51,705 akin to slavery. 1634 01:53:51,830 --> 01:53:54,917 It is one of the most prominent forms of discrimination 1635 01:53:55,042 --> 01:53:57,962 against Dalits, and it is central to the violation 1636 01:53:58,087 --> 01:54:01,423 of their human rights, 1637 01:54:01,549 --> 01:54:03,509 to their dehumanization. 1638 01:54:09,223 --> 01:54:12,685 Through violent storms at sea, starvation, 1639 01:54:12,810 --> 01:54:14,687 mutilation and rape, 1640 01:54:14,812 --> 01:54:17,189 Black people were stacked and squeezed 1641 01:54:17,314 --> 01:54:19,733 into the hulls of ships 1642 01:54:19,858 --> 01:54:22,570 to be sold into further unfathomable terror. 1643 01:54:28,409 --> 01:54:31,537 Their bodies did not belong to them... 1644 01:54:33,998 --> 01:54:38,711 but to the dominating caste to do with however it wished. 1645 01:54:41,297 --> 01:54:44,091 No longer daughter of a fisherman, 1646 01:54:44,216 --> 01:54:46,218 or a nephew of the midwife, 1647 01:54:48,762 --> 01:54:50,973 loving mothers, 1648 01:54:51,098 --> 01:54:53,392 headstrong nephews, dedicated bakers 1649 01:54:53,517 --> 01:54:55,269 and watchmakers, 1650 01:54:55,394 --> 01:54:59,898 all merged into a single mass of undifferentiated bodies. 1651 01:55:00,024 --> 01:55:04,737 No longer seen as humans deserving empathy... 1652 01:55:04,862 --> 01:55:09,742 but as objects over whom control could be exerted. 1653 01:55:09,867 --> 01:55:11,660 They were no longer people. 1654 01:55:14,622 --> 01:55:15,956 They were numbers. 1655 01:55:30,012 --> 01:55:33,432 s 1656 01:55:33,557 --> 01:55:37,269 Dehumanized. 1657 01:55:51,575 --> 01:55:54,995 Now a soulless animal. 1658 01:56:05,339 --> 01:56:08,509 Not human. 1659 01:56:19,937 --> 01:56:23,023 It is harder to dehumanize a single person standing 1660 01:56:23,148 --> 01:56:25,359 in front of you, 1661 01:56:25,484 --> 01:56:28,153 harder to dehumanize an individual 1662 01:56:28,278 --> 01:56:30,656 you've gotten the chance to know. 1663 01:56:36,370 --> 01:56:40,082 Which is why people and groups who seek power and division 1664 01:56:40,207 --> 01:56:43,627 don't bother with dehumanizing an individual. 1665 01:56:43,752 --> 01:56:47,381 Better to attach a stigma, a taint of pollution, 1666 01:56:47,506 --> 01:56:50,759 to an entire group. 1667 01:56:54,096 --> 01:56:55,681 Dehumanize the group 1668 01:56:55,806 --> 01:56:58,726 and you've successfully dehumanized 1669 01:56:58,851 --> 01:57:01,186 every individual person within it. 1670 01:57:12,948 --> 01:57:15,451 Racism is not the same as caste. 1671 01:57:15,576 --> 01:57:17,828 Because race does not matter 1672 01:57:17,953 --> 01:57:20,122 in order for the system to work. 1673 01:57:59,328 --> 01:58:03,791 "Little League team wins championship." 1674 01:58:15,677 --> 01:58:17,888 Mama. 1675 01:58:18,013 --> 01:58:20,516 "Little League team... splashes." 1676 01:58:20,641 --> 01:58:22,351 Oh... 1677 01:58:22,476 --> 01:58:23,852 It's true. 1678 01:58:27,147 --> 01:58:28,816 Go, go, go! 1679 01:58:49,586 --> 01:58:51,338 It was a hot day like today. 1680 01:58:52,631 --> 01:58:54,925 We were pretty excited 1681 01:58:55,050 --> 01:58:57,010 because we had just won the city championship 1682 01:58:57,135 --> 01:59:00,097 when the coach told us he was bringing us to this park. 1683 01:59:00,222 --> 01:59:03,892 And we're gonna get to eat and go swimming. 1684 01:59:04,017 --> 01:59:05,769 And we were quite excited, as you can imagine. 1685 01:59:05,894 --> 01:59:10,440 And then the park ranger came over and pointed out Al. 1686 01:59:10,566 --> 01:59:11,942 Hey, boy! 1687 01:59:19,199 --> 01:59:20,993 - Yes, sir? - You can't be in here right now. 1688 01:59:21,118 --> 01:59:22,786 And you know better. Who you with? 1689 01:59:22,911 --> 01:59:24,830 Everything okay here? 1690 01:59:24,955 --> 01:59:26,874 - This boy with your team? - He's one of my players. 1691 01:59:26,999 --> 01:59:28,792 You know how long it'd take for our maintenance crew 1692 01:59:28,917 --> 01:59:30,335 - to clean this up? - Disinfect it? 1693 01:59:30,460 --> 01:59:32,170 - Disinfect what? - This is a whites-only pool. 1694 01:59:32,296 --> 01:59:33,755 We didn't know. Being young kids, 1695 01:59:33,881 --> 01:59:35,549 we didn't understand what was going on. 1696 01:59:35,674 --> 01:59:37,718 - Yeah. - And um... 1697 01:59:37,843 --> 01:59:39,386 yet we wanted to go in the pool 1698 01:59:39,511 --> 01:59:41,305 because it was so hot that day, too. 1699 01:59:41,430 --> 01:59:43,849 And then the park ranger, he said, 1700 01:59:43,974 --> 01:59:46,935 "If he goes in, nobody goes in." 1701 01:59:59,865 --> 02:00:05,162 So, they took Al outside to a blanket out there. 1702 02:00:05,287 --> 02:00:08,081 But, you know, we kept looking back at Al, 1703 02:00:08,206 --> 02:00:09,750 and see him. Why was he over there? 1704 02:00:09,875 --> 02:00:11,251 Mm-hmm. 1705 02:00:11,376 --> 02:00:15,047 So, a few of my friends and I went over to talk to him 1706 02:00:15,172 --> 02:00:17,132 and to make sure he was okay. 1707 02:00:17,257 --> 02:00:19,718 So it felt strange when that happened, 1708 02:00:19,843 --> 02:00:21,053 that he was over there 1709 02:00:21,178 --> 02:00:22,846 - and you guys were here. - Yeah, it felt separate. 1710 02:00:22,971 --> 02:00:24,473 - He was on our team. - Yeah. Right, right. 1711 02:00:24,598 --> 02:00:26,725 And he was a big part of our team, and then, 1712 02:00:26,850 --> 02:00:29,186 they wouldn't let him in. 1713 02:00:29,311 --> 02:00:31,480 Some of the parents brought him over some food to eat. 1714 02:00:31,605 --> 02:00:32,981 Mm-hmm. 1715 02:00:33,106 --> 02:00:37,235 - He sat there by himself? Ugh. - By himself. 1716 02:00:37,361 --> 02:00:40,405 And then, the coach talked to the park ranger again 1717 02:00:40,530 --> 02:00:42,240 and said, "Hey, you've gotta let this kid in, 1718 02:00:42,366 --> 02:00:43,533 at least for a little swim." 1719 02:00:43,659 --> 02:00:47,621 - Yes, yes. - So he talked to the coach 1720 02:00:47,746 --> 02:00:49,164 and he said, "There's only one way 1721 02:00:49,289 --> 02:00:51,667 - I'm going to let this happen." - Mm-hmm. 1722 02:00:53,794 --> 02:00:56,546 Everybody out. Come on, now. 1723 02:00:56,672 --> 02:00:57,881 Come on. 1724 02:00:58,006 --> 02:00:59,967 Come on out now. Come on. 1725 02:01:20,821 --> 02:01:22,531 You cannot touch that water, boy. 1726 02:01:22,656 --> 02:01:23,865 You hear me? 1727 02:01:27,411 --> 02:01:28,745 Keep your balance. 1728 02:01:32,791 --> 02:01:34,668 Do not touch that water. 1729 02:01:40,382 --> 02:01:41,800 Real still. 1730 02:02:18,879 --> 02:02:20,380 Real still. 1731 02:02:36,396 --> 02:02:37,814 Don't touch that water. 1732 02:02:59,544 --> 02:03:03,840 It really affected us and we didn't know what to do. 1733 02:03:03,965 --> 02:03:05,842 Right. 1734 02:03:05,967 --> 02:03:10,347 And it still bothers me today. 1735 02:03:10,472 --> 02:03:15,727 As a kid, we just want to play baseball and swim. 1736 02:03:15,852 --> 02:03:17,771 We didn't know what to do. 1737 02:03:17,896 --> 02:03:22,234 And I wish I could do it over again. 1738 02:03:22,359 --> 02:03:24,069 'Cause I don't think I did enough. 1739 02:03:27,280 --> 02:03:29,241 How old were you? 1740 02:03:29,366 --> 02:03:31,618 I was nine. 1741 02:03:31,743 --> 02:03:34,079 Nine years old. 1742 02:03:45,465 --> 02:03:47,676 Al Bright went on to become 1743 02:03:47,801 --> 02:03:51,012 an artist and educator. 1744 02:03:51,138 --> 02:03:54,141 He was the first full-time Black faculty member 1745 02:03:54,266 --> 02:03:58,979 at his alma mater, Youngstown State University. 1746 02:03:59,104 --> 02:04:01,398 I missed talking to him for the book 1747 02:04:01,523 --> 02:04:04,109 by a matter of months. 1748 02:04:04,234 --> 02:04:07,696 He passed away at age 82. 1749 02:04:07,821 --> 02:04:11,449 But a part of him died that afternoon in 1951. 1750 02:04:18,415 --> 02:04:20,333 You're going to be fine. 1751 02:04:26,047 --> 02:04:28,842 You're going to be just fine. 1752 02:05:39,537 --> 02:05:44,084 The tragedy of caste 1753 02:05:44,209 --> 02:05:47,045 is that we are judged on the very things 1754 02:05:47,170 --> 02:05:48,922 that we cannot change. 1755 02:05:49,047 --> 02:05:53,677 Signposts on our bodies of gender and ancestry, 1756 02:05:53,802 --> 02:05:57,847 superficial differences that have nothing to do 1757 02:05:57,973 --> 02:06:00,183 with who we are on the inside. 1758 02:06:02,894 --> 02:06:07,315 The goal of this work has not been to resolve issues 1759 02:06:07,440 --> 02:06:10,860 of a millennia-old phenomenon, 1760 02:06:10,986 --> 02:06:13,989 {\an8}but to bear witness to its presence 1761 02:06:14,114 --> 02:06:16,241 {\an8}in our everyday lives, 1762 02:06:16,366 --> 02:06:20,203 {\an8}to shine a light on its history despite those 1763 02:06:20,328 --> 02:06:22,539 {\an8}who would deny it, despite those 1764 02:06:22,664 --> 02:06:26,626 {\an8}who would withhold it from us even, 1765 02:06:26,751 --> 02:06:31,172 {\an8}who try to convince us that we don't need to know. 1766 02:06:35,218 --> 02:06:37,846 We need to know. 1767 02:06:40,223 --> 02:06:46,813 You don't escape trauma by ignoring it. 1768 02:06:50,442 --> 02:06:54,446 You escape trauma by confronting it. 1769 02:07:01,536 --> 02:07:04,748 When you live in an old house, 1770 02:07:04,873 --> 02:07:07,792 you may not want to go in the basement after a storm 1771 02:07:07,917 --> 02:07:09,711 to see what the rains have brought. 1772 02:07:09,836 --> 02:07:13,840 But choose not to look at your own peril. 1773 02:07:20,638 --> 02:07:23,600 We're all like homeowners who've inherited a house 1774 02:07:23,725 --> 02:07:25,894 on a piece of land that's beautiful 1775 02:07:26,019 --> 02:07:27,812 on the outside. 1776 02:07:27,937 --> 02:07:29,939 But the soil is unstable. 1777 02:07:38,323 --> 02:07:43,411 People say I had nothing to do with how this all started. 1778 02:07:43,536 --> 02:07:44,954 I never owned slaves. 1779 02:07:45,080 --> 02:07:46,873 I didn't mistreat untouchables. 1780 02:07:46,998 --> 02:07:49,250 I didn't gas Jews. 1781 02:07:49,376 --> 02:07:53,046 And, yes, not one of us was around 1782 02:07:53,171 --> 02:07:55,006 when this house was built. 1783 02:08:00,762 --> 02:08:03,098 But here we are. 1784 02:08:03,223 --> 02:08:05,517 The current occupants of a property 1785 02:08:05,642 --> 02:08:08,812 with stress cracks built into the foundation, 1786 02:08:08,937 --> 02:08:11,731 and a roof that must be replaced. 1787 02:08:22,075 --> 02:08:25,870 We are the heirs to whatever is right or wrong with it. 1788 02:08:25,995 --> 02:08:28,415 We didn't erect the uneven pillars, 1789 02:08:28,540 --> 02:08:30,959 but they are ours to deal with now. 1790 02:08:39,717 --> 02:08:42,429 The cracks won't fix themselves. 1791 02:08:49,519 --> 02:08:52,647 Any more deterioration is on our watch. 1792 02:09:00,530 --> 02:09:03,533 Caste is not simply hatred. 1793 02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:15,795 It is the worn grooves of routine and expectation. 1794 02:09:15,920 --> 02:09:17,630 Patterns of a social order 1795 02:09:17,755 --> 02:09:21,384 that have been in place so long, it looks natural... 1796 02:09:21,509 --> 02:09:23,052 when it isn't. 1797 02:09:27,849 --> 02:09:31,603 Caste is everywhere, yet invisible. 1798 02:09:35,398 --> 02:09:38,276 No one avoids exposure to its message, 1799 02:09:38,401 --> 02:09:40,069 and the message is simple. 1800 02:09:42,822 --> 02:09:46,075 One kind of person is more deserving of freedom 1801 02:09:46,201 --> 02:09:48,369 than another kind. 1802 02:09:50,914 --> 02:09:53,791 Freedom to love whoever you want to love. 1803 02:10:02,926 --> 02:10:05,929 Freedom to go wherever you want to go. 1804 02:10:11,100 --> 02:10:14,062 Freedom to express yourself however you want 1805 02:10:14,187 --> 02:10:15,813 to express yourself. 1806 02:10:19,984 --> 02:10:25,573 Freedom to resist and fight for your human right to do so. 1807 02:11:41,983 --> 02:11:45,695 ♪ We are the colour ♪ 1808 02:11:45,820 --> 02:11:49,574 ♪ Found in spring ♪ 1809 02:11:49,699 --> 02:11:53,536 ♪ You are the wind ♪ 1810 02:11:53,661 --> 02:11:57,081 {\an8}♪ Breathe into me ♪ 1811 02:11:57,206 --> 02:12:01,044 {\an8}♪ You inherit me ♪ 1812 02:12:01,169 --> 02:12:04,422 ♪ I inherit you ♪ 1813 02:12:04,547 --> 02:12:08,301 {\an8}♪ I am the language ♪ 1814 02:12:08,426 --> 02:12:13,931 {\an8}♪ You speak to me ♪ 1815 02:12:14,057 --> 02:12:16,809 {\an8}♪ As far as the eye can see ♪ 1816 02:12:16,934 --> 02:12:21,022 {\an8}♪ Everything has changed ♪ 1817 02:12:21,147 --> 02:12:26,235 ♪ Tell me how can we stand by ♪ 1818 02:12:26,361 --> 02:12:28,696 ♪ I don't wanna be the same ♪ 1819 02:12:28,821 --> 02:12:32,867 {\an8}♪ He toiora ahau nu ♪ 1820 02:12:32,992 --> 02:12:37,121 {\an8}♪ Te toi n Kurawaka ♪ 1821 02:12:37,246 --> 02:12:43,920 {\an8}♪ Taku rongomaiwhiti e ♪ 1822 02:12:44,045 --> 02:12:48,883 {\an8}♪ Tkiri ko te haeata ♪ 1823 02:12:49,008 --> 02:12:52,136 {\an8}♪ Anga atu ki te r ♪ 1824 02:12:52,261 --> 02:12:59,602 ♪ Whiti, whiti ki te ora e ♪ 1825 02:12:59,727 --> 02:13:03,147 ♪ We are the waters ♪ 1826 02:13:03,272 --> 02:13:06,693 ♪ The rivers and streams ♪ 1827 02:13:06,818 --> 02:13:10,279 ♪ Flow through the armour ♪ 1828 02:13:10,405 --> 02:13:14,909 ♪ Of a dying breed ♪ 1829 02:13:15,034 --> 02:13:18,371 ♪ I am with you ♪ 1830 02:13:18,496 --> 02:13:22,125 ♪ And you are with me ♪ 1831 02:13:22,250 --> 02:13:26,212 {\an8}♪ Baptised in fire ♪ 1832 02:13:26,337 --> 02:13:31,050 {\an8}♪ We're lions in the ring ♪ 1833 02:13:31,175 --> 02:13:34,470 {\an8}♪ As far as the eye can see ♪ 1834 02:13:34,595 --> 02:13:38,224 {\an8}♪ Everything has changed ♪ 1835 02:13:38,349 --> 02:13:43,646 {\an8}♪ Tell me how can we stand by ♪ 1836 02:13:43,771 --> 02:13:46,065 {\an8}♪ I don't wanna be the same ♪ 1837 02:13:46,190 --> 02:13:50,820 {\an8}♪ He toiora ahau nu ♪ 1838 02:13:50,945 --> 02:13:54,532 {\an8}♪ Te toi n Kurawaka ♪ 1839 02:13:54,657 --> 02:14:01,414 {\an8}♪ Taku rongomaiwhiti e ♪ 1840 02:14:01,539 --> 02:14:06,294 {\an8}♪ Tkiri ko te haeata ♪ 1841 02:14:06,419 --> 02:14:10,256 {\an8}♪ Anga atu ki te r ♪ 1842 02:14:10,381 --> 02:14:16,679 {\an8}♪ Whiti, whiti ki te ora e... ♪ 126150

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