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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,162 WWW.MY-SUBS.CO 1 00:00:20,145 --> 00:00:23,023 {n8}The Russian president says a military operation 2 00:00:23,106 --> 00:00:25,775 {n8}is now underway in eastern Ukraine. 3 00:00:29,779 --> 00:00:32,049 I was in Moscow when the war broke out, 4 00:00:32,073 --> 00:00:35,076 or when Russia invaded, on a reporting trip. 5 00:00:36,327 --> 00:00:39,289 {n8}I told myself, "Okay, this is fascism playing out." 6 00:00:39,372 --> 00:00:41,458 {n8}I think there was a sense of total shock, 7 00:00:41,541 --> 00:00:42,834 which not just I had. 8 00:00:42,917 --> 00:00:44,794 The city, Moscow, felt. 9 00:00:47,255 --> 00:00:49,424 Then in the evening was the first protest. 10 00:00:50,258 --> 00:00:52,135 People were just walking on the streets. 11 00:00:52,218 --> 00:00:55,930 The police was grabbing them, dealing with them very harshly. 12 00:00:57,432 --> 00:00:59,225 Putin is cracking down at home 13 00:00:59,309 --> 00:01:01,436 as he's facing more pushback internationally. 14 00:01:01,519 --> 00:01:04,272 These were Moscow liberals. This was the opposition. 15 00:01:04,856 --> 00:01:06,524 {n8}They were incredibly brave, 16 00:01:06,608 --> 00:01:09,903 {n8}and people continued to protest until they really couldn't. 17 00:01:14,866 --> 00:01:17,452 {n8}There were calls from two different sources 18 00:01:17,535 --> 00:01:20,955 {n8}that special forces were coming to the newsroom. 19 00:01:21,539 --> 00:01:23,208 {n8}"No to war." 20 00:01:23,291 --> 00:01:27,754 {n8}Those were the final words of the final broadcast of Russia's TV Rain. 21 00:01:27,837 --> 00:01:30,590 {n8}On Thursday, the news outlet shut down 22 00:01:30,673 --> 00:01:33,968 {n8}due to the government's attack on free press in the country. 23 00:01:37,555 --> 00:01:40,767 {n8}It was clear for me that that was the end. 24 00:01:43,394 --> 00:01:45,855 We lost the future. 25 00:01:45,939 --> 00:01:47,357 The future was over. 26 00:01:50,276 --> 00:01:53,279 For us, for the Russian people I belong to, 27 00:01:54,322 --> 00:01:56,866 we lived for decades 28 00:01:56,950 --> 00:01:58,827 dreaming of some better life. 29 00:01:59,577 --> 00:02:01,955 And it was all over that day. 30 00:02:18,429 --> 00:02:21,266 No to war! No to war! 31 00:03:28,917 --> 00:03:31,628 The Soviet red flag with its hammer and sickle 32 00:03:31,711 --> 00:03:34,881 {n8}was lowered for the last time over the Kremlin tonight. 33 00:03:34,964 --> 00:03:39,219 {n8}In its place went up the white, blue, and red flag of the Russian Republic. 34 00:03:41,429 --> 00:03:43,848 I think it's very hard for us to remember now 35 00:03:43,932 --> 00:03:48,102 what an immense task Russia was faced with 36 00:03:48,186 --> 00:03:49,938 after the fall of the Soviet Union. 37 00:03:50,855 --> 00:03:53,524 {n8}You don't just become a democracy like that. 38 00:03:55,485 --> 00:03:58,655 {n8}Yeltsin's trying to make the laws of supply and demand work, 39 00:03:58,738 --> 00:04:02,450 but there's almost unlimited demand, and virtually no supply. 40 00:04:02,533 --> 00:04:05,203 The predictable result is economic chaos. 41 00:04:08,665 --> 00:04:14,087 All kinds of processes were carried out that were a disaster. 42 00:04:14,170 --> 00:04:20,510 Most notoriously, the auctioning off of state enterprises. 43 00:04:21,094 --> 00:04:25,139 So here you have a country that, yes, it's badly disorganized, 44 00:04:25,223 --> 00:04:27,058 but there's immense resources. 45 00:04:27,141 --> 00:04:30,520 Timber, oil, gas, 46 00:04:30,603 --> 00:04:32,689 all kinds of minerals, et cetera. 47 00:04:33,731 --> 00:04:37,652 So they organized these auctions for these giant state enterprises. 48 00:04:37,735 --> 00:04:40,989 The auctions were carried out in a sleazy way, 49 00:04:41,572 --> 00:04:43,616 and people that were close to power 50 00:04:44,492 --> 00:04:47,829 were able to get, to put it mildly, insider prices. 51 00:04:48,496 --> 00:04:52,208 So something worth a billion dollars was bought for $50 million. 52 00:04:53,042 --> 00:04:55,253 And the next thing you know, there was a class of people 53 00:04:55,336 --> 00:04:56,963 that we now know as the oligarchs. 54 00:05:04,595 --> 00:05:07,598 Many of them had backgrounds among the elite 55 00:05:07,682 --> 00:05:09,684 of the Soviet system. 56 00:05:13,313 --> 00:05:17,317 They were people who had access, perhaps, to some initial capital. 57 00:05:18,026 --> 00:05:23,531 {n8}They were traders who then bought banks or, you know, created new institutions 58 00:05:23,614 --> 00:05:27,410 out of the opportunities left behind by the old Soviet system. 59 00:05:30,705 --> 00:05:33,666 {n8}What ended up happening was that a bunch of oligarchs 60 00:05:33,750 --> 00:05:38,296 {n8}who were pretty much predetermined and chosen by Yeltsin, 61 00:05:38,379 --> 00:05:41,174 {n8}ended up with more than 40% of the GDP of Russia. 62 00:05:46,846 --> 00:05:49,182 {n8}Mikhail Khodorkovsky was one of the oligarchs. 63 00:05:50,266 --> 00:05:54,437 {n8}Probably in my mind, at the time, one of the most rapacious oligarchs. 64 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,023 I think he was smarter than the other ones. 65 00:05:57,648 --> 00:06:00,651 He really accumulated anything and everything he could. 66 00:06:02,403 --> 00:06:06,324 {n8}The Soviet economy was extremely monopolized. 67 00:06:06,407 --> 00:06:11,079 {n8}That is, every industry effectively had one overarching corporation 68 00:06:11,162 --> 00:06:12,830 called the ministry of so-and-so, 69 00:06:12,914 --> 00:06:15,833 but they did not have their own supply system. 70 00:06:15,917 --> 00:06:18,795 Nor did they have their own distribution systems. 71 00:06:19,504 --> 00:06:21,774 Add to that difficulties of working 72 00:06:21,798 --> 00:06:23,049 with outdated equipment 73 00:06:23,132 --> 00:06:26,010 and the other legacies of seven decades of communism. 74 00:06:26,886 --> 00:06:30,348 So one day, when they were told, "You're on your own," 75 00:06:30,431 --> 00:06:33,226 the entire management system fell apart. 76 00:06:33,893 --> 00:06:38,606 And of course, there were plenty of young and enterprising people like me 77 00:06:38,689 --> 00:06:40,900 who could earn money on this 78 00:06:40,983 --> 00:06:46,781 and take part in the purchase of industrial enterprises. 79 00:06:46,864 --> 00:06:48,157 BANK MENATEP 80 00:06:52,286 --> 00:06:54,622 And we made a lot of money. 81 00:06:56,749 --> 00:06:59,252 Mikhail Khodorkovsky was able to parlay 82 00:06:59,335 --> 00:07:02,255 an initial amount of backing from institutions 83 00:07:02,338 --> 00:07:06,342 into, uh, one of the first new banks of the post-Soviet era, 84 00:07:06,426 --> 00:07:10,763 and from there, to ultimately become the richest man in the new Russia. 85 00:07:14,809 --> 00:07:17,562 In the mid to late 1990s, 86 00:07:17,645 --> 00:07:21,065 Khodorkovsky probably was worth $15 billion. 87 00:07:21,149 --> 00:07:25,027 {n8}Seven or eight of these big bankers, we call them oligarchs. 88 00:07:25,111 --> 00:07:27,655 {n8}Maybe that's too nice a word. Robber barons. 89 00:07:27,738 --> 00:07:30,950 {n8}They're buying up newspapers, airlines, oil companies. 90 00:07:31,617 --> 00:07:33,202 It's everybody for themselves. 91 00:07:33,286 --> 00:07:34,871 It's a winner-take-all economy, 92 00:07:34,954 --> 00:07:38,040 and the rules don't exist except the rule of the gun 93 00:07:38,124 --> 00:07:39,750 and the rule of the use of force. 94 00:07:42,253 --> 00:07:45,923 These people lived in the most lavish villas and mansions, 95 00:07:46,007 --> 00:07:50,303 and floated around on the biggest yachts, and flew around on private jets. 96 00:07:52,805 --> 00:07:56,559 Well, someone had to become rich. 97 00:07:59,145 --> 00:08:06,027 We rebuilt this living network of the country's economy. 98 00:08:06,527 --> 00:08:09,447 In six to seven years, we did manage to rebuild it. 99 00:08:10,948 --> 00:08:15,411 And yet those six years had to be lived. 100 00:08:15,495 --> 00:08:18,372 The people had to live through those six years. 101 00:08:18,456 --> 00:08:21,918 You can't feed them in six years. 102 00:08:23,836 --> 00:08:27,465 And that was a disaster, a real disaster. 103 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,140 Because the system was set up without a rule of law, 104 00:08:36,224 --> 00:08:37,642 without proper institutions, 105 00:08:37,725 --> 00:08:41,729 you ended up in a place where capitalism was actually much worse than communism. 106 00:08:46,150 --> 00:08:48,903 {n8}Bread prices shot up 400%, 107 00:08:48,986 --> 00:08:53,741 from 60 kopeks to more than two-and-a-half rubles a kilo. 108 00:08:54,951 --> 00:08:57,745 Gasoline prices also quadrupled. 109 00:09:02,291 --> 00:09:05,171 The government didn't have any money. There was no tax revenue. 110 00:09:05,211 --> 00:09:08,714 And since most people worked for different government organizations, 111 00:09:08,798 --> 00:09:10,800 most people weren't paid their salaries. 112 00:09:12,885 --> 00:09:16,138 "I simply can't survive on a pension," declared one man. 113 00:09:16,222 --> 00:09:19,267 "It's daylight robbery, stealing from the honest," complained another. 114 00:09:19,850 --> 00:09:23,563 "A kilo of cheese now costs me twice my monthly pension." 115 00:09:24,605 --> 00:09:27,567 The average Russian was dying at the age of 57 116 00:09:27,650 --> 00:09:30,194 because they didn't have any medicine in the hospitals. 117 00:09:31,112 --> 00:09:33,364 There was no teachers in the schools. 118 00:09:34,865 --> 00:09:38,077 Professors had to become taxi drivers, 119 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,039 and the art museums were selling the art right off the walls 120 00:09:42,123 --> 00:09:43,583 just to survive. 121 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:47,795 From Hollywood, where dreams do come true, 122 00:09:47,878 --> 00:09:52,758 it's the return of the one and only Supermarket Sweep! 123 00:09:53,676 --> 00:09:56,804 And you're watching on TV, not the old Soviet programs, 124 00:09:56,887 --> 00:09:59,724 but huge amounts of Western television. 125 00:10:02,184 --> 00:10:05,730 This new inequality was a disaster. 126 00:10:07,523 --> 00:10:12,361 And that infuriated a lot of people, and it undermined the status of democracy, 127 00:10:12,445 --> 00:10:17,116 so that democracy which was, in Russian is demokratiya, 128 00:10:17,199 --> 00:10:19,785 was now known as der'mokratiya. 129 00:10:19,869 --> 00:10:21,662 "Shit-ocracy." 130 00:10:27,335 --> 00:10:29,378 We should have invested heavily 131 00:10:29,462 --> 00:10:33,924 in what was a very difficult economic transformation. 132 00:10:35,176 --> 00:10:38,971 {n8}Going from communism to capitalism is costly and hard, 133 00:10:39,764 --> 00:10:41,724 and we took our eye off the ball. 134 00:10:43,476 --> 00:10:46,520 {n8}So in 1992, we had an election and the incumbent, 135 00:10:46,604 --> 00:10:49,357 {n8}President George H.W. Bush, 136 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,444 {n8}was criticized by the Democratic Party as being too internationalist, 137 00:10:53,527 --> 00:10:55,988 too engaged in foreign affairs. 138 00:10:56,072 --> 00:10:59,617 {n8}I think it is important that the United States stay in Europe, 139 00:10:59,700 --> 00:11:02,662 {n8}and continue to guarantee the peace. 140 00:11:02,745 --> 00:11:04,705 We simply cannot pull back. 141 00:11:04,789 --> 00:11:09,085 {n8}And there was this rather obscure governor from Arkansas, 142 00:11:09,168 --> 00:11:12,380 {n8}who ran on the slogan, "It's the economy, stupid." 143 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,007 {n8}We have to face that, in this world, 144 00:11:15,091 --> 00:11:18,302 economic security is a whole lot of national security. 145 00:11:18,386 --> 00:11:21,639 Our dollar's at an all-time low against some foreign currencies. 146 00:11:21,722 --> 00:11:24,725 We're weak in the world. We must rebuild America's strength at home. 147 00:11:28,604 --> 00:11:32,650 Democrats really skillfully used in that 1992 campaign 148 00:11:32,733 --> 00:11:36,404 the promise and possibility of this post-Cold War era 149 00:11:36,487 --> 00:11:38,322 as a way to reset American politics, 150 00:11:38,406 --> 00:11:41,200 and Bill Clinton was going to be the first president 151 00:11:41,283 --> 00:11:43,411 of the post-Cold War era. 152 00:11:45,579 --> 00:11:50,292 As a result of 1992, this pivotal year in Russia, 153 00:11:50,376 --> 00:11:51,544 we were disengaged, 154 00:11:51,627 --> 00:11:54,463 and I think that was a real lost opportunity. 155 00:11:54,547 --> 00:11:55,881 We should have gone all in. 156 00:11:59,552 --> 00:12:03,556 {n8}A lot of government officials in Europe and in the United States 157 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:08,978 {n8}hugely underestimated the magnitude of the humiliation of the Russian people 158 00:12:09,061 --> 00:12:11,230 {n8}after the collapse of the Soviet Union. 159 00:12:17,027 --> 00:12:18,907 This is a country that went from being 160 00:12:18,946 --> 00:12:21,073 one of the world's two superpowers, 161 00:12:21,157 --> 00:12:24,994 to really not knowing what its status and place in the world were. 162 00:12:30,541 --> 00:12:33,002 There was a moment in the Yeltsin years 163 00:12:33,085 --> 00:12:34,420 that always stuck with me, 164 00:12:34,503 --> 00:12:37,214 when they couldn't even come to a consensus 165 00:12:37,298 --> 00:12:42,261 on what the lyrics should be for a new Russian national anthem 166 00:12:42,344 --> 00:12:46,807 to take the place of the old Soviet national anthem. 167 00:12:47,391 --> 00:12:51,687 And so when their athletes won medals at the Olympics, 168 00:12:51,771 --> 00:12:53,147 they just played the music. 169 00:13:03,616 --> 00:13:05,618 There was no song yet to sing. 170 00:13:10,706 --> 00:13:12,500 Starting in 1994, 171 00:13:12,583 --> 00:13:15,795 Yeltsin's engaged in a war in Chechnya, which was a horror show. 172 00:13:16,670 --> 00:13:18,631 {n8}Moscow has battled for centuries 173 00:13:18,714 --> 00:13:20,716 {n8}to suppress Chechen independence 174 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,551 {n8}and exert ultimate control. 175 00:13:23,469 --> 00:13:25,179 {n8}Russia is a multiethnic country 176 00:13:25,262 --> 00:13:28,933 {n8}that includes bits that were joined in or annexed or conquered 177 00:13:29,016 --> 00:13:30,684 {n8}in the late 19th century. 178 00:13:31,310 --> 00:13:35,856 {n8}The republics of the North Caucasus, Chechnya, Dagestan, et cetera. 179 00:13:36,774 --> 00:13:39,819 The vicious Russian efforts over the past 14 months 180 00:13:39,902 --> 00:13:41,529 to crush the Chechen nation 181 00:13:41,612 --> 00:13:45,115 merely continue a deep, ingrained tradition of mutual hatred. 182 00:13:45,741 --> 00:13:49,453 {n8}And it was a huge crisis for Russia. The Russian army was failing. 183 00:13:49,537 --> 00:13:53,457 {n8}People were not really, uh, enthusiastic about the war. 184 00:13:53,958 --> 00:13:58,629 {n8}1996, there was just a real sense of things falling apart. 185 00:13:58,712 --> 00:14:02,299 You got corruption, you got a depressed economy, 186 00:14:02,383 --> 00:14:05,678 you got crime on your streets, you got a war in Chechnya. 187 00:14:06,929 --> 00:14:09,306 And of course, that became exploited 188 00:14:09,390 --> 00:14:11,475 by those who were resentful 189 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,895 and who believed that this was a direct result 190 00:14:14,979 --> 00:14:17,106 of the collapse of the old system. 191 00:14:19,567 --> 00:14:23,988 Yeltsin's poll ratings were within spitting distance of zero. 192 00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:28,826 And he was faced with having to run against, wait for it, 193 00:14:28,909 --> 00:14:30,244 a communist. 194 00:14:30,327 --> 00:14:31,537 Gennady Zyuganov. 195 00:14:35,583 --> 00:14:37,793 There was a very real possibility 196 00:14:37,877 --> 00:14:40,337 that Boris Yeltsin would be defeated 197 00:14:40,421 --> 00:14:43,090 and that the communists would return to power. 198 00:14:44,967 --> 00:14:47,261 This was viewed with great alarm in Moscow, 199 00:14:47,344 --> 00:14:49,346 as well as in Western capitals 200 00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:52,516 and, in a way, there was a sort of a corrupt bargain struck 201 00:14:53,517 --> 00:14:56,437 between Yeltsin and the oligarchs. 202 00:14:57,813 --> 00:14:59,813 We go in to see Yeltsin, 203 00:14:59,857 --> 00:15:03,152 and Chubais starts persuading him, 204 00:15:03,235 --> 00:15:07,323 that there's no need to declare a state of emergency, 205 00:15:07,406 --> 00:15:09,533 that there's no need to call off the elections, 206 00:15:09,617 --> 00:15:11,827 and that he can win these elections. 207 00:15:13,662 --> 00:15:15,765 Yeltsin said to these oligarchs, 208 00:15:15,789 --> 00:15:20,252 "If you use all of your resources, your television stations, your money, 209 00:15:20,336 --> 00:15:23,213 everything else to help me get reelected, 210 00:15:23,297 --> 00:15:26,175 then I will make sure that you get the largest and most coveted 211 00:15:26,258 --> 00:15:29,595 and valuable oil companies and metals companies in the country." 212 00:15:31,972 --> 00:15:34,183 These companies hadn't yet been privatized. 213 00:15:50,699 --> 00:15:53,452 These oligarchs funded the hell out of him... 214 00:15:55,245 --> 00:16:00,000 and pushed Yeltsin like a recalcitrant elephant 215 00:16:00,084 --> 00:16:01,502 up and over the hill. 216 00:16:01,585 --> 00:16:07,007 You, young people, are the future of Russia! 217 00:16:09,885 --> 00:16:13,165 Yeltsin's campaign managed to scare people with the threat of communists returning. 218 00:16:13,222 --> 00:16:15,349 People still remembered how it was back then. 219 00:16:15,975 --> 00:16:22,147 No way. I had enough of all that communist history at school. 220 00:16:22,231 --> 00:16:24,692 Boris Yeltsin! 221 00:16:25,693 --> 00:16:28,821 {n8}He ended up getting reelected, barely. 222 00:16:29,738 --> 00:16:32,324 But after he was reelected, things got worse and worse 223 00:16:32,408 --> 00:16:34,451 because these oligarchs controlled everything. 224 00:16:35,202 --> 00:16:38,622 And then he was in a very bad place because he was an alcoholic, 225 00:16:38,706 --> 00:16:41,375 his health was failing, he had heart disease. 226 00:16:42,334 --> 00:16:46,296 He was not able to perform his duties, uh, 227 00:16:46,380 --> 00:16:51,093 for the last three and a half years of his presidency, and that was obvious. 228 00:16:52,386 --> 00:16:57,266 {n8}Most Russians, uh, felt huge shame for Russian president Boris Yeltsin. 229 00:16:57,850 --> 00:17:00,269 He was obviously a disgrace. 230 00:17:06,066 --> 00:17:10,070 In Washington, he has, you know, a day of summits with Bill Clinton, 231 00:17:10,154 --> 00:17:13,991 and then he goes back to Blair House, the guesthouse in Washington, D.C. 232 00:17:14,074 --> 00:17:15,743 {n8}And no one quite knows what happens, 233 00:17:15,826 --> 00:17:18,829 {n8}but he's found on the side of the street in his underwear, 234 00:17:18,912 --> 00:17:21,915 {n8}yelling in Russian that he needs a taxi and a pizza. 235 00:17:24,418 --> 00:17:26,962 By 1999, 236 00:17:27,046 --> 00:17:30,549 Yeltsin begins a search for a successor. 237 00:17:33,385 --> 00:17:35,637 He went through a series of successors, 238 00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:39,516 {n8}basically prime ministers that he appointed to test them out. 239 00:17:40,392 --> 00:17:44,021 {n8}And the first three completely failed one way or another. 240 00:17:45,814 --> 00:17:49,068 {n8}And they were kind of running out of time because his health was so bad, 241 00:17:49,151 --> 00:17:50,861 {n8}and he was really struggling. 242 00:17:51,820 --> 00:17:55,240 {n8}And so they just randomly picked this strange unknown man 243 00:17:55,324 --> 00:17:57,576 {n8}that nobody had really had much experience with. 244 00:17:57,659 --> 00:18:00,996 This is the man Boris Yeltsin says should lead Russia 245 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,207 in the 21st century. 246 00:18:03,290 --> 00:18:04,458 Vladimir Putin. 247 00:18:22,976 --> 00:18:25,229 In the year of 1952, 248 00:18:25,312 --> 00:18:28,148 about five months before Stalin's death, 249 00:18:28,232 --> 00:18:29,942 was born Vladimir Putin. 250 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,700 {n8}The legend of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin 251 00:18:38,784 --> 00:18:40,369 {n8}that has come down to us 252 00:18:40,452 --> 00:18:43,038 {n8}in a campaign-style book called First Person 253 00:18:44,373 --> 00:18:50,337 {n8}portrays his hardscrabble childhood in the mean courtyards of Leningrad. 254 00:18:55,801 --> 00:18:58,220 Putin describes himself as almost a hooligan, 255 00:18:58,804 --> 00:19:02,891 running around with tough boys in the corridors, chasing rats. 256 00:19:04,184 --> 00:19:07,646 {n8}He describes essentially being bullied and beaten up... 257 00:19:09,314 --> 00:19:13,902 {n8}until he used his fists and he fought back against the aggressors. 258 00:19:14,695 --> 00:19:18,782 And that, in Putin's telling, is a sort of a core principle. 259 00:19:21,034 --> 00:19:22,870 Only the weak get beaten. 260 00:19:22,953 --> 00:19:25,789 THE SWORD AND THE SHIELD 261 00:19:29,084 --> 00:19:31,628 {n8}The story, as told by Vladimir Putin, 262 00:19:31,712 --> 00:19:34,131 {n8}is that he grew up watching 263 00:19:34,214 --> 00:19:38,177 the kind of World War II movies and television shows 264 00:19:38,260 --> 00:19:41,305 that glorified the role of the secret services. 265 00:19:41,388 --> 00:19:43,932 One in particular that captured his attention, 266 00:19:44,016 --> 00:19:45,851 called The Sword and the Shield. 267 00:19:47,853 --> 00:19:51,815 And he has said that it made him essentially want to grow up 268 00:19:51,899 --> 00:19:55,402 and to become an agent himself in the KGB. 269 00:19:59,072 --> 00:20:01,491 And he ultimately did join the KGB. 270 00:20:03,785 --> 00:20:07,664 Vladimir Putin was not some daring secret agent 271 00:20:07,748 --> 00:20:11,043 as much as he was a counterintelligence officer, 272 00:20:11,126 --> 00:20:15,339 and that means that he was looking for betrayal from within. 273 00:20:16,965 --> 00:20:20,010 {n8}He was looking inside the ranks of the KGB 274 00:20:20,093 --> 00:20:23,305 {n8}and trying to make sure that everyone was loyal. 275 00:20:25,724 --> 00:20:29,937 The KGB was never a law-abiding organization. 276 00:20:30,020 --> 00:20:33,774 {n8}It was always an organization that lived according to Mafia principles. 277 00:20:35,609 --> 00:20:39,988 {n8}The KGB used tricks against American diplomats in Moscow, 278 00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:43,158 {n8}including, uh, very nasty things. 279 00:20:43,242 --> 00:20:46,578 {n8}You know, even some sort of, uh, poisoning. 280 00:20:46,662 --> 00:20:50,123 Not to kill, but to put in an awkward position. 281 00:20:54,169 --> 00:20:57,339 Putin had what would be a relatively lackluster career 282 00:20:57,422 --> 00:20:59,049 in the Soviet-era KGB. 283 00:21:00,801 --> 00:21:04,221 He didn't rise to be a top general in the KGB. 284 00:21:04,304 --> 00:21:09,184 He didn't rise to have one of its premier foreign postings in the West 285 00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:10,894 somewhere, uh, undercover. 286 00:21:11,853 --> 00:21:17,109 {n8}He ends up instead in a relative backwater in Dresden, in East Germany. 287 00:21:23,782 --> 00:21:27,619 {n8}He's working with the Stasi, the East German secret police. 288 00:21:27,703 --> 00:21:29,204 {n8}And the country around him, 289 00:21:29,288 --> 00:21:33,500 {n8}which has been the leading part of the Soviet Bloc, is unraveling. 290 00:21:45,262 --> 00:21:47,597 Your government seems to be changing every day. 291 00:21:47,681 --> 00:21:49,474 Where do you think it's going? 292 00:21:49,558 --> 00:21:52,060 That's the government's problem, not mine. 293 00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:55,522 {n8}For Putin, this was a terrible catastrophe. 294 00:21:56,898 --> 00:22:00,777 It was the end of the Soviet Empire that he had served and believed in. 295 00:22:07,576 --> 00:22:11,580 So Putin at this point is in his 30s. He's a mid-level KGB officer. 296 00:22:11,663 --> 00:22:16,084 And he's horrified that Moscow is not responding violently 297 00:22:16,168 --> 00:22:17,794 to the collapse of East Germany. 298 00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:22,507 In particular, when the crisis comes to his door. 299 00:22:26,178 --> 00:22:29,806 {n8}Peaceful protesters occupy the headquarters of the Stasi, 300 00:22:29,890 --> 00:22:31,892 {n8}which is the East German secret police. 301 00:22:33,894 --> 00:22:36,688 {n8}Putin is in the KGB outpost in Dresden, 302 00:22:36,772 --> 00:22:39,399 {n8}which is around the corner from Dresden Stasi headquarters, 303 00:22:39,483 --> 00:22:40,859 {n8}since they work together. 304 00:22:40,942 --> 00:22:43,945 Some of these protesters who are occupying the Stasi headquarters 305 00:22:44,029 --> 00:22:47,616 say, "Let's go over to the KGB outpost. Let's go take that over." 306 00:22:48,116 --> 00:22:53,246 So they go over to the KGB outpost where Putin is the senior officer on duty. 307 00:22:53,747 --> 00:22:55,999 And Putin is not amused. 308 00:22:57,167 --> 00:22:59,044 {n8}And in the book First Person, 309 00:22:59,127 --> 00:23:03,340 {n8}he remembers colleagues calling Moscow for directions. 310 00:23:03,423 --> 00:23:04,423 "What should we do?" 311 00:23:05,092 --> 00:23:07,844 And the phrase was, "Moscow was silent." 312 00:23:09,179 --> 00:23:12,182 {n8}In other words, Moscow had written off East Germany. 313 00:23:13,058 --> 00:23:15,143 {n8}And this enraged Putin. 314 00:23:16,436 --> 00:23:18,522 Central power had collapsed. 315 00:23:18,605 --> 00:23:21,775 And greatness, in his view, had been relinquished. 316 00:23:22,776 --> 00:23:26,113 {n8}All these events have inspired intense bitterness in him. 317 00:23:26,196 --> 00:23:27,489 {n8}Humiliation. 318 00:23:28,156 --> 00:23:30,158 {n8}This is the great country that defeated the Nazis. 319 00:23:33,912 --> 00:23:36,748 It's hard to overestimate how important that is. 320 00:23:36,832 --> 00:23:41,128 What a foundation to Russian self-identity the defeat of the Nazis is. 321 00:23:42,087 --> 00:23:48,343 And so to have to retreat in such a way from Germany was just, for Putin, awful. 322 00:23:53,390 --> 00:23:56,852 He was shocked, I think, by his years in Germany. 323 00:23:58,311 --> 00:24:02,941 He saw that even in East Germany, there was a much higher standard of living 324 00:24:03,024 --> 00:24:05,444 than there was inside Russia itself. 325 00:24:06,361 --> 00:24:10,532 He describes returning, in fact, to Russia with, I think, 326 00:24:10,615 --> 00:24:13,743 a washing machine, you know, strapped to his car. 327 00:24:16,121 --> 00:24:20,750 Then he basically decides to throw his lot in with his old law professor 328 00:24:20,834 --> 00:24:24,463 {n8}at the University of Leningrad, Anatoly Sobchak, 329 00:24:24,546 --> 00:24:27,591 {n8}who was the first democratically-elected mayor 330 00:24:27,674 --> 00:24:30,385 {n8}of what was then going to be St. Petersburg 331 00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:31,887 and no longer Leningrad. 332 00:24:33,221 --> 00:24:38,059 And back then, St. Petersburg was like Chicago in the 1930s. 333 00:24:38,143 --> 00:24:42,606 {n8}There is even a set phrase. 334 00:24:43,106 --> 00:24:46,693 {n8}"Gangster's Petersburg." 335 00:24:48,528 --> 00:24:51,490 He immediately went into contact 336 00:24:51,573 --> 00:24:53,825 {n8}with people with a very shady background. 337 00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:55,118 {n8}With criminal groups. 338 00:24:55,702 --> 00:25:00,457 And he was the mayor's man to fix these kinds of problems 339 00:25:00,540 --> 00:25:02,292 and to talk to these people, 340 00:25:02,375 --> 00:25:06,588 and to make sure that the mayor was safe, and some shady deals were done. 341 00:25:09,174 --> 00:25:13,011 Sobchak loses his reelection as mayor for a second term. 342 00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:16,806 Putin is then again looking for another job. 343 00:25:17,682 --> 00:25:19,976 And Putin is brought to Moscow 344 00:25:20,477 --> 00:25:23,522 {n8}for now a succession of jobs in the late '90s. 345 00:25:24,147 --> 00:25:27,526 {n8}He becomes the head of the Kremlin's properties division, 346 00:25:27,609 --> 00:25:32,155 which is a fantastic place to be if you want to have access to corruption. 347 00:25:32,948 --> 00:25:37,035 All the perks of the old system that are run by the Kremlin, 348 00:25:37,118 --> 00:25:38,370 he's in charge of them. 349 00:25:38,453 --> 00:25:42,123 {n8}The disposition of everything from dachas, vacation homes, 350 00:25:42,207 --> 00:25:46,044 {n8}to places in Kremlin hospitals and schools, 351 00:25:46,127 --> 00:25:49,965 leases on cars that are run by the Kremlin and boats. 352 00:25:50,882 --> 00:25:53,969 And that gave him some powers. 353 00:25:54,052 --> 00:25:57,264 And that was his start of his national career. 354 00:25:57,347 --> 00:26:01,851 After that, it was a very quick way to become, uh, the new head 355 00:26:01,935 --> 00:26:04,354 of the Russian Security Service, FSB. 356 00:26:04,437 --> 00:26:07,315 Which is the successor agency to the KGB. 357 00:26:08,692 --> 00:26:12,279 Suddenly this not very distinguished KGB guy's the head of the whole thing. 358 00:26:12,904 --> 00:26:15,490 And all this is happening fairly rapidly. 359 00:26:21,705 --> 00:26:25,625 In 1999, Boris Yeltsin is not seen as being fully in control 360 00:26:25,709 --> 00:26:26,793 of his own government. 361 00:26:26,876 --> 00:26:30,046 And there are enormous concerns that Yeltsin and those close to him 362 00:26:30,130 --> 00:26:34,384 might actually face corruption charges from a future president of Russia. 363 00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:38,972 So they are desperately looking not just for a successor for Russia, 364 00:26:39,055 --> 00:26:41,182 but they're looking to protect themselves. 365 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,104 {n8}The people around Yeltsin, especially his daughter, 366 00:26:46,187 --> 00:26:48,273 {n8}say, "You need someone like Putin." 367 00:26:50,191 --> 00:26:54,404 And now, I have decided to name a man, 368 00:26:54,487 --> 00:26:57,532 who, in my opinion, 369 00:26:58,491 --> 00:27:05,165 is capable of uniting society. 370 00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:08,418 The decision has been made. 371 00:27:08,501 --> 00:27:09,836 Vladimir Vladimirovich, 372 00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:14,090 we congratulate you on your appointment as prime minister. 373 00:27:14,674 --> 00:27:17,844 Yeltsin tells a senior American diplomat 374 00:27:17,927 --> 00:27:22,682 when he appoints Vladimir Putin as prime minister, "This one's different." 375 00:27:22,766 --> 00:27:26,978 "I can even envision him as a future successor to me." 376 00:27:28,063 --> 00:27:31,149 And so he rises in this incredibly short period of time 377 00:27:31,232 --> 00:27:35,445 from FSB director to prime minister of Russia. 378 00:27:36,363 --> 00:27:38,948 And what's made clear at a certain point, 379 00:27:39,032 --> 00:27:41,284 is that after Yeltsin leaves, 380 00:27:41,368 --> 00:27:43,995 Putin would not act on the Yeltsin family. 381 00:27:44,913 --> 00:27:46,414 There'd be no arrests. 382 00:27:46,498 --> 00:27:50,460 They would be allowed to live out their lives in wealth, and untouched. 383 00:27:58,176 --> 00:28:00,720 He was appointed prime minister in August, 384 00:28:00,804 --> 00:28:05,684 and in September, there was a series of terror attacks, uh, in Moscow. 385 00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:17,904 {n8}My mom was a very well-educated, beautiful woman. 386 00:28:20,365 --> 00:28:22,617 She wanted to give us better future. 387 00:28:24,536 --> 00:28:27,080 That's why we've moved to Moscow. 388 00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:34,295 {n8}In 1999, she had started a new job, a new life, at Russian television, 389 00:28:34,379 --> 00:28:36,381 {n8}as an editor at a morning show. 390 00:28:38,758 --> 00:28:41,511 {n8}One day, I was in Tbilisi, Georgia, 391 00:28:41,594 --> 00:28:43,596 {n8}visiting my grandfather and my grandmother, 392 00:28:44,431 --> 00:28:46,307 and she was home alone. 393 00:28:53,565 --> 00:28:57,402 {n8}September 9th, first explosion in Moscow. 394 00:28:58,111 --> 00:28:59,237 Guryanov Street. 395 00:29:00,196 --> 00:29:03,050 A nine-story apartment building has been blown up. 396 00:29:03,074 --> 00:29:05,910 The middle part, two entrances, collapsed. 397 00:29:05,994 --> 00:29:08,997 Ninety-three corpses and many so-called fragments of human bodies 398 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,584 were recovered from the rubble. 399 00:29:15,462 --> 00:29:17,797 My uncle, who was in Moscow, 400 00:29:17,881 --> 00:29:19,758 he went to the building. 401 00:29:19,841 --> 00:29:21,843 He saw terrible things. 402 00:29:22,927 --> 00:29:26,765 Parts of people's bodies were all over the place. 403 00:29:29,058 --> 00:29:31,853 Our apartment was in the epicenter of the explosion. 404 00:29:31,936 --> 00:29:35,356 So that's why they didn't find even DNA of my mom. 405 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,902 How do I find out... Where is my family? 406 00:29:38,985 --> 00:29:40,445 And who lived there? 407 00:29:41,070 --> 00:29:46,451 My nephew and his mother lived there. 408 00:29:47,869 --> 00:29:50,749 There were others after that Guryanov explosion. 409 00:29:52,499 --> 00:29:55,585 These bombings occur in Moscow and several other cities. 410 00:29:57,253 --> 00:30:01,466 {n8}The Russian government blames them on Chechen separatists, 411 00:30:01,549 --> 00:30:03,343 {n8}Chechen terror groups. 412 00:30:05,970 --> 00:30:08,848 {n8}The North Caucasus region is 413 00:30:08,932 --> 00:30:12,101 {n8}not exclusively, but primarily, Muslim. 414 00:30:12,185 --> 00:30:15,688 {n8}And it was very easy for the Kremlin and for Putin 415 00:30:15,772 --> 00:30:18,691 {n8}to other the people of the North Caucasus 416 00:30:18,775 --> 00:30:23,029 {n8}as Muslims who have terrorized the Russian population. 417 00:30:25,907 --> 00:30:29,828 It's an attempt by international terrorists to frighten the people, 418 00:30:29,911 --> 00:30:31,079 stir up panic, 419 00:30:31,162 --> 00:30:33,706 paralyze the political leadership of the country. 420 00:30:36,292 --> 00:30:40,672 But as these bombings unfold, there's this series of odd events. 421 00:30:41,548 --> 00:30:44,884 {n8}At one point, the speaker of the Russian Duma 422 00:30:44,968 --> 00:30:47,929 {n8}announces the fourth bombing. 423 00:30:48,012 --> 00:30:51,224 The fourth bombing actually doesn't take place for three more days. 424 00:30:51,808 --> 00:30:54,269 {n8}Can't you see what is happening in the country? 425 00:30:54,352 --> 00:30:55,937 {n8}Remember, Mr. Chairman, 426 00:30:56,020 --> 00:30:59,148 {n8}on Monday you told us a house in Volgodonsk was blown up. 427 00:30:59,232 --> 00:31:01,109 Three days before the explosion! 428 00:31:01,192 --> 00:31:04,279 Then residents report to local police 429 00:31:04,362 --> 00:31:07,574 {n8}that they see these men carrying sacks 430 00:31:07,657 --> 00:31:10,285 {n8}into the basement of this apartment building. 431 00:31:12,370 --> 00:31:15,999 The local police discover a bomb 432 00:31:16,082 --> 00:31:19,460 identical to those that had gone off in other cities. 433 00:31:20,336 --> 00:31:22,547 {n8}The cops were running all over the building, 434 00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:26,426 {n8}banging on doors and shouting, "Everybody out! There's a bomb!" 435 00:31:27,218 --> 00:31:31,890 And they arrest three FSB agents, 436 00:31:31,973 --> 00:31:34,726 agents of the Russian intelligence service, 437 00:31:34,809 --> 00:31:38,313 who had been carrying those sacks into the basement. 438 00:31:39,355 --> 00:31:41,566 Positive measures are already being taken. 439 00:31:41,649 --> 00:31:43,902 {n8}One example is the prevention of an explosion 440 00:31:43,985 --> 00:31:45,528 {n8}in an apartment building in Ryazan. 441 00:31:46,321 --> 00:31:48,156 The day after those arrests, 442 00:31:48,239 --> 00:31:50,617 the Russian government announces 443 00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:54,078 that it was actually an FSB training operation all along. 444 00:31:54,162 --> 00:31:58,207 {n8}It was an exercise. There were no explosives, just sugar. 445 00:31:58,291 --> 00:32:02,378 But the sacks test as real explosives. 446 00:32:02,962 --> 00:32:05,882 And so what many people believe 447 00:32:05,965 --> 00:32:09,302 is that the Russian intelligence service 448 00:32:09,385 --> 00:32:12,096 actually carried out as a false flag operation 449 00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:15,600 to gin up the pretext for war. 450 00:32:17,310 --> 00:32:20,813 There is only one independent investigation of this 451 00:32:20,897 --> 00:32:22,482 that ever takes place, 452 00:32:22,565 --> 00:32:25,652 {n8}and of those independent investigators, 453 00:32:25,735 --> 00:32:28,905 {n8}two of the commission are actually assassinated, 454 00:32:28,988 --> 00:32:31,032 {n8}and the third, the lawyer, 455 00:32:31,115 --> 00:32:34,535 {n8}is actually arrested and imprisoned for four years. 456 00:32:39,999 --> 00:32:44,879 We don't have solid evidence of Vladimir Putin being involved in this. 457 00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:48,591 The only thing that we know is that after these explosions, 458 00:32:48,675 --> 00:32:51,594 Russia started the second Chechen war. 459 00:32:51,678 --> 00:32:55,848 {n8}And Vladimir Putin, as Yeltsin's hand-picked prime minister, 460 00:32:55,932 --> 00:32:59,102 he becomes the public face of this war. 461 00:32:59,894 --> 00:33:02,063 For seven straight days now, 462 00:33:02,146 --> 00:33:04,482 Russian warplanes have pounded Chechnya. 463 00:33:04,565 --> 00:33:06,442 Russia stepped up its air strikes 464 00:33:06,526 --> 00:33:08,194 against Chechen villages today. 465 00:33:08,778 --> 00:33:12,490 At that period of time in 1999, Vladimir Putin didn't have any popularity. 466 00:33:12,573 --> 00:33:14,784 No one knew what he was. 467 00:33:15,952 --> 00:33:18,579 And after that, he became a strong bogatyr. 468 00:33:18,663 --> 00:33:20,331 A hero for Russians. 469 00:33:21,207 --> 00:33:25,545 A person who says, "We don't negotiate with terrorists." 470 00:33:25,628 --> 00:33:27,171 "We kill the terrorists." 471 00:33:27,255 --> 00:33:29,507 {n8}We'll be chasing the terrorists everywhere. 472 00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:32,218 {n8}At the airports or in the toilet. 473 00:33:32,301 --> 00:33:36,889 {n8}We'll waste them in an outhouse. End of story. 474 00:33:41,769 --> 00:33:45,440 Putin was willing to do the most brutal thing imaginable, 475 00:33:45,523 --> 00:33:50,069 which is to bring the Chechen War to an end by obliterating, 476 00:33:50,153 --> 00:33:54,949 obliterating the better part of the Chechen capital Grozny. 477 00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:03,499 And he goes from basically an unknown, in the course of months, 478 00:34:03,583 --> 00:34:07,170 to the most popular politician in Russia. 479 00:34:07,253 --> 00:34:12,842 And it's really on the backs of this very popular military campaign. 480 00:34:20,767 --> 00:34:24,312 And then, as the millennium's changing, 481 00:34:24,395 --> 00:34:27,899 Yeltsin gets up on television on New Year's Eve and says... 482 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,520 "I am leaving." 483 00:34:31,110 --> 00:34:36,783 Today, on the last day of the outgoing century, 484 00:34:37,325 --> 00:34:41,496 I am retiring. 485 00:34:43,164 --> 00:34:47,502 I want to ask your forgiveness, 486 00:34:47,585 --> 00:34:53,800 because many of our hopes did not come true. 487 00:34:53,883 --> 00:34:57,220 He makes it very clear that he is, if anything, 488 00:34:57,303 --> 00:35:01,891 apologizing to the Russian people in his diminished state 489 00:35:01,974 --> 00:35:05,812 for the failures that have taken place in the '90s. 490 00:35:06,395 --> 00:35:09,732 I have signed a decree entrusting 491 00:35:10,566 --> 00:35:13,861 duties of the President of Russia 492 00:35:14,403 --> 00:35:20,159 to Prime Minister Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. 493 00:35:23,121 --> 00:35:27,625 For the next three months, he will be head of state. 494 00:35:28,501 --> 00:35:32,338 Again, in accordance with the constitution, 495 00:35:32,421 --> 00:35:36,050 presidential elections will be held in three months' time. 496 00:35:37,552 --> 00:35:39,637 And then Yeltsin abdicates, 497 00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,473 and Putin becomes the acting president. 498 00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:45,309 On March 26th, 499 00:35:45,393 --> 00:35:48,604 we will be electing, not just a head of government, 500 00:35:48,688 --> 00:35:52,984 but also a supreme commander, 501 00:35:53,067 --> 00:35:59,949 in the sense that the president is also the head of the armed forces. 502 00:36:00,032 --> 00:36:03,327 Russia is one of the largest governments in the world 503 00:36:03,411 --> 00:36:05,746 with a powerful nuclear arsenal. 504 00:36:05,830 --> 00:36:08,207 And this is something not only our friends remember. 505 00:36:10,042 --> 00:36:12,146 One of Vladimir Putin's ideas 506 00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:15,506 was if he explains to people that he is the one 507 00:36:15,590 --> 00:36:20,178 who can bring stability and safety to Russians, 508 00:36:20,261 --> 00:36:24,307 then he would have a very high level of, uh, support. 509 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,816 {n8}He was elected as a president in 2000. 510 00:36:34,984 --> 00:36:36,611 So it... it really worked. 511 00:36:40,656 --> 00:36:44,744 {n8}Putin took over a nation demoralized 512 00:36:44,827 --> 00:36:49,540 and traumatized by defeat in the Cold War. 513 00:36:50,082 --> 00:36:52,877 And this was very hard on Russians. There's no doubt. 514 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,215 And President Putin was able to say to the Russian people, 515 00:36:57,298 --> 00:37:00,885 "Look, I will restore Russian pride." 516 00:37:00,968 --> 00:37:02,720 And he didn't say this exactly, 517 00:37:02,803 --> 00:37:06,641 but the implication was, the implied deal was, 518 00:37:06,724 --> 00:37:11,103 "I will make your lives better, but it's not gonna be a democracy." 519 00:37:15,483 --> 00:37:20,613 {n8}He is still a... a Soviet type of a man. 520 00:37:20,696 --> 00:37:26,035 {n8}I think that he even dreams about the Soviet Empire. 521 00:37:31,749 --> 00:37:34,293 One of the first things that Vladimir Putin did 522 00:37:34,377 --> 00:37:38,881 was he restored the old Stalin-era Soviet national anthem. 523 00:37:38,965 --> 00:37:45,012 ♪ Be glorified ♪ 524 00:37:45,096 --> 00:37:50,476 ♪ Our free Fatherland... ♪ 525 00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:53,104 Russians had this very negative experience 526 00:37:53,187 --> 00:37:55,940 during the later years of Boris Yeltsin, 527 00:37:56,023 --> 00:38:00,069 and there was a sense that it was a good thing for Russia. 528 00:38:08,577 --> 00:38:11,455 Putin immediately reached out to the West. 529 00:38:15,293 --> 00:38:17,837 {n8}Putin's first significant act in foreign policy 530 00:38:18,546 --> 00:38:21,465 {n8}was to send a message to the Secretary General of NATO, 531 00:38:21,966 --> 00:38:23,634 {n8}and he said, "We'll start again." 532 00:38:24,218 --> 00:38:26,929 And so, NATO reopened an office in Moscow, 533 00:38:27,013 --> 00:38:30,349 and Putin started building up the relationship with NATO. 534 00:38:30,433 --> 00:38:34,061 {n8}From that point, his second significant act in foreign policy 535 00:38:34,145 --> 00:38:35,646 {n8}was to get on to Tony Blair. 536 00:38:38,691 --> 00:38:42,028 {n8}Tony Blair, at the time, was the preeminent leader in Europe. 537 00:38:42,111 --> 00:38:44,030 {n8}Enormously popular figure. 538 00:38:44,113 --> 00:38:45,781 {n8}So rather cunningly, Putin said, 539 00:38:45,865 --> 00:38:48,701 {n8}"Why don't you and your wife come to a premiere 540 00:38:48,784 --> 00:38:53,998 of a new production of Prokofiev's opera War and Peace in St. Petersburg, 541 00:38:54,081 --> 00:38:55,082 in my home city?" 542 00:38:55,875 --> 00:38:58,419 {n8}So a totally informal, kind of family visit. 543 00:39:02,465 --> 00:39:05,384 {n8}I was the first leader to go and see him from the West. 544 00:39:05,468 --> 00:39:08,095 {n8}He was wanting the meeting in St. Petersburg. 545 00:39:08,179 --> 00:39:10,097 {n8}He wanted it to be Western-oriented. 546 00:39:10,181 --> 00:39:12,099 He was talking about the reform of his economy, 547 00:39:12,183 --> 00:39:14,894 a new era for Western-Eastern relations. 548 00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:18,856 This informal weekend wasn't at all informal. 549 00:39:18,939 --> 00:39:23,027 The very first meeting took place in a grand room of a grand palace, 550 00:39:23,110 --> 00:39:26,197 with all the world's press covering it because it was the first time 551 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,283 a Western leader had been seen meeting Putin. 552 00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:31,410 And then they spent several hours together. 553 00:39:33,537 --> 00:39:35,456 It's very important to emphasize 554 00:39:35,539 --> 00:39:38,876 we're desperate to have a good relationship with Russia, 555 00:39:38,959 --> 00:39:41,170 to bring Russia closer towards us. 556 00:39:41,253 --> 00:39:43,589 Some people in the European Union even talked about Russia 557 00:39:43,672 --> 00:39:45,591 becoming a member of the European Union. 558 00:39:47,093 --> 00:39:51,055 I believed that he was someone who was potentially going to be a partner 559 00:39:51,138 --> 00:39:52,473 we could work with. 560 00:39:52,556 --> 00:39:55,184 And with whom we could resolve some of the world's problems 561 00:39:55,267 --> 00:39:56,727 rather than aggravate them. 562 00:39:58,229 --> 00:40:01,315 I remember meeting Putin in Slovenia for the first time 563 00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:02,858 as the President of Russia. 564 00:40:03,567 --> 00:40:08,823 {n8}And he walked toward us, and, uh, he had a kind of athlete's gait. 565 00:40:08,906 --> 00:40:10,950 {n8}Any breakthroughs? 566 00:40:11,033 --> 00:40:15,454 {n8}But I remember thinking that he was a little bit lacking in confidence, oddly. 567 00:40:17,164 --> 00:40:22,086 And when he met President George W. Bush, he so wanted to be treated as an equal. 568 00:40:23,504 --> 00:40:26,632 And President Bush didn't want to do anything to embarrass him, 569 00:40:26,715 --> 00:40:29,176 and thus that famous moment at the press conference 570 00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:31,011 when he was asked if he trusted Putin. 571 00:40:32,012 --> 00:40:34,849 I'll answer the question. I looked the man in the eye. 572 00:40:34,932 --> 00:40:38,561 I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. 573 00:40:39,645 --> 00:40:41,313 We had a very good dialogue. 574 00:40:41,939 --> 00:40:46,152 I was able to, uh, get a sense of his soul. 575 00:40:46,694 --> 00:40:48,612 He's a man deeply committed to his country, 576 00:40:48,696 --> 00:40:50,656 and has the best interests of his country. 577 00:40:51,907 --> 00:40:54,285 I thought, "Oh my God, what did he just say?" 578 00:40:54,368 --> 00:40:58,581 But he was just trying to develop a relationship with, uh, with Putin. 579 00:41:00,666 --> 00:41:03,627 Also, would you make everyone aware 580 00:41:03,711 --> 00:41:05,588 that we're gonna be seeing some tape? 581 00:41:07,465 --> 00:41:09,467 Holy shit. Jesus! 582 00:41:14,972 --> 00:41:17,892 {n8}Early in his time in power in Russia, 583 00:41:17,975 --> 00:41:21,020 {n8}September 11th happened here in the United States, 584 00:41:21,103 --> 00:41:26,358 {n8}and he saw terrorism as a common enemy between Russia and the United States. 585 00:41:29,028 --> 00:41:31,155 Everybody go straight. There's an ambulance... 586 00:41:31,238 --> 00:41:34,074 I think Putin felt that he had found, actually, 587 00:41:34,158 --> 00:41:35,910 a new strategic rationale 588 00:41:35,993 --> 00:41:37,953 for the relationship with the United States. 589 00:41:38,662 --> 00:41:42,666 {n8}I want to tell the American people on behalf of Russia, we are with you. 590 00:41:42,750 --> 00:41:45,544 {n8}We share and feel your pain. We support you. 591 00:41:52,927 --> 00:41:54,637 Putin thought, "Finally, 592 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:58,349 {n8}finally the United States and the West will understand 593 00:41:58,432 --> 00:42:01,185 {n8}this war on terrorism that I am carrying out 594 00:42:01,268 --> 00:42:03,687 {n8}inside of Russia against Chechnya." 595 00:42:12,279 --> 00:42:14,990 But of course, quickly, I think, Putin realized 596 00:42:15,074 --> 00:42:17,826 that his definition of the global war on terror 597 00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:20,621 was very different than the United States's. 598 00:42:21,997 --> 00:42:23,916 And that came to a head pretty quickly 599 00:42:23,999 --> 00:42:29,213 {n8}by the time that it became clear US was moving toward war in Iraq. 600 00:42:30,506 --> 00:42:35,844 {n8}Iraq had been one of the major Soviet proxy states and military partners 601 00:42:35,928 --> 00:42:39,139 {n8}in the Middle East throughout the long years of confrontation 602 00:42:39,223 --> 00:42:40,223 {n8}of the Cold War. 603 00:42:41,141 --> 00:42:44,645 {n8}And this was not the kind of military adventurism 604 00:42:44,728 --> 00:42:48,440 {n8}that Putin thought he was signing up for with the war on terror. 605 00:42:52,361 --> 00:42:54,401 I will do everything in my power 606 00:42:54,446 --> 00:42:56,740 so that this time as well Russia is not pulled 607 00:42:56,824 --> 00:43:00,619 into the Iraqi crisis in any form. 608 00:43:07,793 --> 00:43:12,131 Because of Iraq and other factors, Putin gets lucky. 609 00:43:12,715 --> 00:43:14,592 The price of oil goes up. 610 00:43:19,555 --> 00:43:20,931 Russia's an oil and gas country, 611 00:43:21,015 --> 00:43:23,058 and if the oil price goes up, that can really help. 612 00:43:24,059 --> 00:43:25,436 {n8}The money starts to pour in. 613 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,857 It made it possible for Putin to pay off the Soviet debt. 614 00:43:30,524 --> 00:43:35,321 It made it possible for him to increase the pensions for Russians. 615 00:43:35,404 --> 00:43:40,868 It made it possible to increase other social service payments for Russians. 616 00:43:42,369 --> 00:43:46,206 You start to see, more vividly than ever before, 617 00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:49,793 the creation of an urban middle class. 618 00:43:51,086 --> 00:43:53,922 And people just say, "Look, if he can provide us 619 00:43:54,006 --> 00:43:56,634 with these new living standards, we're okay with it." 620 00:43:56,717 --> 00:43:59,136 "Why we should care about your democracy?" 621 00:43:59,219 --> 00:44:02,389 Putin, he started collecting taxes from the oligarchs. 622 00:44:02,473 --> 00:44:06,435 {n8}And because of that, the state then started to function again. 623 00:44:08,562 --> 00:44:12,149 And then Putin basically makes this very concerted effort 624 00:44:12,232 --> 00:44:16,195 to bring the oligarchs to heel. 625 00:44:20,824 --> 00:44:23,202 {n8}Putin decided to take control 626 00:44:23,702 --> 00:44:27,915 of the two main television channels in Russia, 627 00:44:27,998 --> 00:44:30,000 which had been in private hands. 628 00:44:30,084 --> 00:44:33,170 {n8}Gusinsky and Berezovsky had owned these two channels, 629 00:44:33,253 --> 00:44:34,630 {n8}and they were taken off them. 630 00:44:37,091 --> 00:44:39,968 I am in the studio of NTV, and it is strange, 631 00:44:40,052 --> 00:44:47,052 but today is a very important event for all NTV staff. 632 00:44:47,142 --> 00:44:51,605 Today our TV station was taken over by force. 633 00:44:55,192 --> 00:44:58,654 They are put into hands effectively controlled by Putin. 634 00:44:59,321 --> 00:45:03,951 Because Putin understood as a KGB officer that 85% of the Russian population 635 00:45:04,034 --> 00:45:06,495 got pretty well all of their information 636 00:45:06,578 --> 00:45:08,789 through these two main television channels. 637 00:45:12,209 --> 00:45:15,170 And then there was a signature early confrontation 638 00:45:15,254 --> 00:45:19,967 between Putin and a possible rival power center, Mikhail Khodorkovsky... 639 00:45:23,178 --> 00:45:26,724 ...who, by that time, was not only the richest man in Russia, 640 00:45:26,807 --> 00:45:29,893 but also one of the very wealthiest men in the whole world. 641 00:45:32,396 --> 00:45:36,567 Khodorkovsky, he seemed to think that the rules no longer applied to him. 642 00:45:41,697 --> 00:45:45,951 You know, I don't remember when I met Putin. 643 00:45:47,536 --> 00:45:50,205 {n8}Here, I'm looking at a young guy much like us. 644 00:45:50,289 --> 00:45:54,293 {n8}He's ready to listen, understand, communicate. 645 00:45:56,295 --> 00:46:00,883 It turned out that this guy was just a very talented recruiter. 646 00:46:00,966 --> 00:46:04,386 He showed each of us, each of his partners, 647 00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:07,347 precisely what each one of us wanted to see. 648 00:46:08,766 --> 00:46:11,453 Khodorkovsky owned an oil company called Yukos, 649 00:46:11,477 --> 00:46:14,688 which was the largest oil company in the country. 650 00:46:15,564 --> 00:46:18,442 Khodorkovsky wanted to venture beyond Russia. 651 00:46:18,525 --> 00:46:20,778 He wanted to become an international businessman. 652 00:46:21,987 --> 00:46:26,074 He felt as if it would help him if Russia wasn't so corrupt anymore. 653 00:46:26,158 --> 00:46:27,534 If Russia became normal, 654 00:46:27,618 --> 00:46:29,620 he could become the richest man in the world. 655 00:46:30,204 --> 00:46:32,456 So he went from poacher to gamekeeper. 656 00:46:33,499 --> 00:46:36,293 He went on a campaign of transparency in his company. 657 00:46:36,376 --> 00:46:40,839 He stopped all the dirty practices that were going on in the 1990s. 658 00:46:41,548 --> 00:46:43,908 Here is an example of corruption. 659 00:46:43,967 --> 00:46:46,887 There was this company called Severnaya Neft, 660 00:46:46,970 --> 00:46:50,641 and its owners wanted to sell it. 661 00:46:50,724 --> 00:46:54,436 The price they wanted was $200 million. 662 00:46:55,979 --> 00:47:00,192 We crunched the numbers and decided it wasn't worth that much. 663 00:47:00,275 --> 00:47:03,320 And then we find out later that Rosneft, a state company, 664 00:47:03,403 --> 00:47:06,657 is buying this company for $600 million. 665 00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:10,536 Well, for us, this was blatant corruption. 666 00:47:10,619 --> 00:47:11,912 Simply blatant. 667 00:47:11,995 --> 00:47:15,165 And most importantly, that $400 million, 668 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,503 it went into Putin's pocket. 669 00:47:23,048 --> 00:47:25,048 Turns out, he had no interest 670 00:47:25,092 --> 00:47:26,372 in getting rid of the oligarchs. 671 00:47:26,426 --> 00:47:28,546 He just wanted to become the biggest oligarch himself. 672 00:47:30,472 --> 00:47:33,684 Putin gathers these oligarchs in a roundtable, 673 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,314 and Mikhail Khodorkovsky starts talking about corruption at the meeting, 674 00:47:39,398 --> 00:47:40,691 which infuriated Putin. 675 00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:45,380 I said corrupt practices are highly developed in Russia, 676 00:47:45,404 --> 00:47:48,490 they have begun to interfere in the economy's development, 677 00:47:48,574 --> 00:47:51,869 and they are interfering with our companies' business. 678 00:47:51,952 --> 00:47:53,704 The scale of corruption in Russia 679 00:47:53,787 --> 00:47:57,708 is estimated by four different organizations 680 00:47:57,791 --> 00:48:01,920 at $30 billion a year. 681 00:48:02,004 --> 00:48:07,009 And here we noticed that Putin's face had simply turned to stone. 682 00:48:09,803 --> 00:48:12,264 Putin glared at him and said, you know, 683 00:48:12,347 --> 00:48:15,601 "You've done your own crimes. Don't tell me what to do." 684 00:48:17,102 --> 00:48:22,190 Some other oil companies, such as Yukos, have extra reserves. 685 00:48:22,274 --> 00:48:23,775 How did it get them? 686 00:48:23,859 --> 00:48:27,779 This is the question in terms of the topic we are discussing today. 687 00:48:27,863 --> 00:48:33,368 Including, therefore, such issues as the payment 688 00:48:33,452 --> 00:48:35,245 or non-payment of taxes. 689 00:48:35,329 --> 00:48:38,707 And then all sorts of trouble began for Khodorkovsky. 690 00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:48,800 Mikhail Khodorkovsky was arrested in October 2003 for tax evasion. 691 00:48:49,426 --> 00:48:52,888 The best-known, most successful Russian businessman, 692 00:48:52,971 --> 00:48:54,890 really in the vanguard of the business 693 00:48:54,973 --> 00:48:58,685 of bringing Western investment into Russia, had been arrested. 694 00:48:59,394 --> 00:49:02,689 This was a fantastically negative signal to the markets, 695 00:49:03,482 --> 00:49:07,903 {n8}because Putin's personal agenda had trumped, as it always does, 696 00:49:07,986 --> 00:49:09,738 {n8}the national interest. 697 00:49:10,697 --> 00:49:12,950 {n8}The reason why Putin arrested... 698 00:49:13,033 --> 00:49:16,495 {n8}And I want to say Putin arrested Khodorkovsky, 699 00:49:16,578 --> 00:49:19,706 {n8}not the other one, is just politically motivated. 700 00:49:20,415 --> 00:49:23,335 This is now a war between the oligarchs and Putin? 701 00:49:23,418 --> 00:49:24,419 No doubt. 702 00:49:26,672 --> 00:49:29,174 The indictment I was charged with, 703 00:49:29,257 --> 00:49:31,802 there were an insane number of counts. 704 00:49:33,220 --> 00:49:35,300 When you're on trial in Russia, 705 00:49:35,347 --> 00:49:37,891 there's a 99.7% conviction rate. 706 00:49:37,975 --> 00:49:41,353 And so they put you in a cage, because that's where you're gonna be. 707 00:49:42,020 --> 00:49:45,273 And they allow the television cameras to come into the courtroom 708 00:49:45,357 --> 00:49:48,944 and film the richest, the most powerful man in Russia 709 00:49:49,027 --> 00:49:50,112 sitting in a cage. 710 00:49:52,489 --> 00:49:56,159 I think Russians were pretty happy that the biggest oligarch was arrested. 711 00:49:56,743 --> 00:49:59,413 Everyone must be equal in the eyes of the law. 712 00:49:59,496 --> 00:50:04,751 A modest clerk, a civil servant, 713 00:50:04,835 --> 00:50:06,753 even one of the highest rank. 714 00:50:08,672 --> 00:50:10,632 And a big businessman, 715 00:50:10,716 --> 00:50:14,553 no matter how many billions of dollars 716 00:50:14,636 --> 00:50:17,431 he has on his private or corporate accounts. 717 00:50:24,146 --> 00:50:26,648 {n8}I was in prison for ten years. 718 00:50:28,984 --> 00:50:31,695 {n8}That was very painful. Well... 719 00:50:31,778 --> 00:50:33,989 I survived. 720 00:50:36,366 --> 00:50:39,619 The other oligarchs then go to Putin and say, 721 00:50:39,703 --> 00:50:42,622 "What do we have to do so we don't go to jail ourselves?" 722 00:50:42,706 --> 00:50:45,792 and the right answer would have been, "You're all going to jail." 723 00:50:45,876 --> 00:50:48,920 But instead, he said, "Something like 50%." 724 00:50:50,297 --> 00:50:51,965 Not 50% for the Russian government, 725 00:50:52,049 --> 00:50:54,968 or 50% for the presidential administration of Russia. 726 00:50:55,052 --> 00:50:56,928 Fifty percent for Vladimir Putin personally. 727 00:50:57,929 --> 00:51:01,433 And that was the moment that Putin became the richest man in the world. 728 00:51:03,435 --> 00:51:06,605 The oligarchs that remain, he makes them a deal. 729 00:51:07,314 --> 00:51:09,357 {n8}"I will let you keep your wealth 730 00:51:10,192 --> 00:51:15,947 {n8}if you turn your wealth and power towards helping me, Vladimir Putin." 731 00:51:16,031 --> 00:51:21,369 "If you don't, I will crush you. I will imprison you. I will kill you." 732 00:51:22,996 --> 00:51:26,500 And very quickly, the old oligarchic gang cracks up. 733 00:51:27,042 --> 00:51:28,502 Berezovsky is in London, 734 00:51:28,585 --> 00:51:30,962 and years later he "commits suicide." 735 00:51:31,046 --> 00:51:32,839 Who the hell knows what happened there? 736 00:51:33,757 --> 00:51:37,594 Gusinsky ends up in Israel and Connecticut. 737 00:51:37,677 --> 00:51:41,932 Roman Abramovich is a different thing. He shows his loyalty by Putin. 738 00:51:43,225 --> 00:51:47,813 {n8}So the old gang is gone, and a new oligarchy begins to accumulate. 739 00:51:47,896 --> 00:51:48,896 {n8}Who are they? 740 00:51:49,397 --> 00:51:52,317 {n8}They are people, lo and behold, 741 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,446 {n8}from the Leningrad, St. Petersburg secret services. 742 00:51:57,447 --> 00:52:01,159 {n8}They are people from Putin's old dacha community. 743 00:52:01,785 --> 00:52:02,869 {n8}His old pals. 744 00:52:05,205 --> 00:52:09,334 {n8}And he begins to enrich and put in positions 745 00:52:09,417 --> 00:52:11,294 people that he knows and he trusts. 746 00:52:11,378 --> 00:52:14,714 And that's the new power structure. 747 00:52:17,676 --> 00:52:22,139 It never occurred to us that the president of Russia 748 00:52:22,222 --> 00:52:23,849 could be about money. 749 00:52:24,432 --> 00:52:29,855 It was, of course, our dramatic mistake. 750 00:52:29,938 --> 00:52:31,940 My personal mistake. 751 00:52:39,072 --> 00:52:42,951 Putin has been, I think, consistently underestimated 752 00:52:43,034 --> 00:52:45,120 by American and Western leaders. 753 00:52:46,997 --> 00:52:51,418 So one consequence of that, is that Putin repeatedly took escalatory measures 754 00:52:51,501 --> 00:52:54,462 that his partners in the West did not think he would undertake. 755 00:52:54,546 --> 00:52:57,549 Arresting Russia's richest man was one example. 756 00:53:00,635 --> 00:53:03,013 There was also his actions in Ukraine. 757 00:53:11,730 --> 00:53:14,858 In 2004, there was about to be an election in Ukraine. 758 00:53:20,447 --> 00:53:25,076 {n8}2004 was only 13 years after the collapse of the Soviet Union. 759 00:53:25,869 --> 00:53:28,622 {n8}Yes, Ukraine was an independent country, 760 00:53:28,705 --> 00:53:31,416 {n8}but for Putin, nothing changed. 761 00:53:33,376 --> 00:53:37,505 In early 2000s, was the clash of two men 762 00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:40,383 who competed for the position of Ukrainian president. 763 00:53:40,467 --> 00:53:42,344 {n8}One pro-Russian, one pro-Western. 764 00:53:43,595 --> 00:53:46,848 {n8}Viktor Yushchenko was running against another Viktor, 765 00:53:47,432 --> 00:53:49,851 {n8}Viktor Yanukovych, in 2004. 766 00:53:51,686 --> 00:53:54,356 {n8}I remember going to Putin's dacha. 767 00:53:54,439 --> 00:53:56,316 I was about to become Secretary of State. 768 00:53:56,399 --> 00:53:59,778 And Putin had this man come out from behind a door. 769 00:53:59,861 --> 00:54:02,614 {n8}Kind of like "door number one." And it's Yanukovych. 770 00:54:02,697 --> 00:54:05,116 {n8}And he says, "This is Yanukovych, 771 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,787 and he is going to run for president of Ukraine." 772 00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:11,665 And he might as well have said, "This is my man Yanukovych, 773 00:54:11,748 --> 00:54:14,251 and he's going to run for president of Ukraine." 774 00:54:15,252 --> 00:54:20,799 I think he believed in 2004, 2005, that he could still control Ukraine. 775 00:54:21,675 --> 00:54:25,095 An independent Ukrainian democracy on Russia's border 776 00:54:25,178 --> 00:54:28,848 is a danger to what he wants to achieve at home. 777 00:54:29,432 --> 00:54:33,687 And in his own mind, Ukraine is a made-up country. 778 00:54:33,770 --> 00:54:36,106 It's a part of the Russian Empire. 779 00:54:40,777 --> 00:54:43,029 President Putin supported Yanukovych. 780 00:54:43,113 --> 00:54:46,074 {n8}Somehow during that campaign, 781 00:54:46,157 --> 00:54:48,326 {n8}Viktor Yushchenko was poisoned. 782 00:54:48,910 --> 00:54:51,830 {n8}When Yushchenko began his campaign a year ago, 783 00:54:51,913 --> 00:54:53,248 {n8}he looked like this. 784 00:54:53,331 --> 00:54:54,833 {n8}For the last few months, 785 00:54:54,916 --> 00:54:57,877 {n8}his face has been marked by boils and cysts. 786 00:54:57,961 --> 00:54:59,963 {n8}He suffers from severe back pain. 787 00:55:01,881 --> 00:55:04,134 {n8}My face was twice its size. 788 00:55:06,761 --> 00:55:09,222 It was all inflammation. 789 00:55:10,223 --> 00:55:13,810 {n8}And after having received the result of blood tests, 790 00:55:13,893 --> 00:55:19,607 {n8}there is no doubt in our minds 791 00:55:20,358 --> 00:55:23,194 {n8}that Mr. Yushchenko's disease 792 00:55:23,278 --> 00:55:26,823 has been caused by a case of dioxin poisoning. 793 00:55:28,158 --> 00:55:30,493 Tests at a Vienna hospital confirmed 794 00:55:30,577 --> 00:55:35,290 {n8}Yushchenko has 6,000 times the normal level of dioxin in his body. 795 00:55:42,922 --> 00:55:44,966 I was at a hospital. 796 00:55:45,050 --> 00:55:48,345 At the time I couldn't spend more than ten minutes 797 00:55:48,428 --> 00:55:51,264 without painkillers. 798 00:55:51,348 --> 00:55:53,183 But to tell Ukrainian voters, 799 00:55:53,266 --> 00:55:57,354 "Sorry, I won't take part in the elections." 800 00:55:57,437 --> 00:56:02,442 "Let's go into Moscow's hands voluntarily." 801 00:56:02,525 --> 00:56:04,819 I couldn't do that. 802 00:56:07,572 --> 00:56:10,132 He was lucky that he was brought to Vienna 803 00:56:10,158 --> 00:56:14,245 {n8}because doctors said if he would stay another 24 hours in Ukraine, 804 00:56:14,329 --> 00:56:16,581 {n8}there could be a "final solution," so-called. 805 00:56:19,042 --> 00:56:21,044 My older daughter... 806 00:56:22,796 --> 00:56:25,173 she hadn't seen me, probably... 807 00:56:27,342 --> 00:56:28,635 maybe for a month. 808 00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:31,679 She was shocked. 809 00:56:32,555 --> 00:56:34,891 She couldn't imagine her father would look like that. 810 00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:47,570 Yanukovych won the election due to voter fraud, 811 00:56:47,654 --> 00:56:51,741 perpetrated by Viktor Yanukovych, supported by President Putin, 812 00:56:51,825 --> 00:56:58,540 {n8}stuffed ballot boxes, and otherwise stole the election in 2004 813 00:56:58,623 --> 00:57:01,042 {n8}away from Viktor Yushchenko, 814 00:57:02,043 --> 00:57:05,755 {n8}which brought the Ukrainian people to the streets around the nation. 815 00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:15,640 With thousands of supporters standing in the snow, 816 00:57:15,723 --> 00:57:18,643 Ukraine's opposition leader dug in his heels. 817 00:57:18,726 --> 00:57:20,895 Our action is only beginning. 818 00:57:21,896 --> 00:57:23,815 Our action is only beginning. 819 00:57:24,774 --> 00:57:27,652 {n8}Yushchenko! Yushchenko! 820 00:57:28,528 --> 00:57:31,340 {n8}Hundreds of thousands, even millions of Ukrainians, 821 00:57:31,364 --> 00:57:34,868 came to protest the stolen election. 822 00:57:35,452 --> 00:57:38,788 The orange banners, the songs that they had created, 823 00:57:39,372 --> 00:57:42,709 the willingness of people to sit through freezing cold temperatures 824 00:57:42,792 --> 00:57:45,295 in order to fight for what they believed was right, 825 00:57:45,378 --> 00:57:47,589 {n8}was like nothing I had ever seen 826 00:57:47,672 --> 00:57:50,008 {n8}on the territory of the former Soviet Union before. 827 00:57:50,758 --> 00:57:53,928 - Yushchenko! - Yushchenko! 828 00:57:54,012 --> 00:57:56,764 {n8}That was a total shock for the Kremlin. 829 00:58:00,518 --> 00:58:02,854 {n8}We shouldn't introduce the practice 830 00:58:02,937 --> 00:58:04,522 {n8}and means of an international society 831 00:58:05,857 --> 00:58:09,027 {n8}of addressing similar disputes through 832 00:58:10,069 --> 00:58:11,779 {n8}mayhem on the streets. 833 00:58:13,573 --> 00:58:15,492 Yushchenko! 834 00:58:15,575 --> 00:58:17,202 Yushchenko! 835 00:58:17,285 --> 00:58:20,955 Yushchenko! Yushchenko! 836 00:58:21,039 --> 00:58:22,582 Yushchenko! 837 00:58:22,665 --> 00:58:25,543 In a clear sign that the old order is wobbling, 838 00:58:25,627 --> 00:58:29,172 a hundred young police cadets joined the demonstrators 839 00:58:29,255 --> 00:58:33,551 and announced that they will not follow orders to crush the protests. 840 00:58:35,011 --> 00:58:38,932 So October-November of the year 2004 841 00:58:39,015 --> 00:58:43,228 was for the Ukrainian nation, like, either we go into yesterday, 842 00:58:43,311 --> 00:58:45,730 where we spent 370 years, 843 00:58:45,813 --> 00:58:47,482 or we have a chance 844 00:58:48,399 --> 00:58:51,903 to choose the democratic way. 845 00:58:53,363 --> 00:58:57,700 If you're a citizen, you know your duty is to make a change, 846 00:58:58,993 --> 00:59:00,745 as no one will do it for you. 847 00:59:01,538 --> 00:59:04,207 {n8}We thereby oblige the Central Election Commission 848 00:59:04,290 --> 00:59:08,545 {n8}to appoint a second round of presidential elections in Ukraine. 849 00:59:08,628 --> 00:59:11,130 {n8}Excellent! Very good! 850 00:59:15,843 --> 00:59:19,305 {n8}According to this count, the results of the votes 851 00:59:19,389 --> 00:59:24,561 {n8}for the two candidates are as follows. 852 00:59:24,644 --> 00:59:27,855 53.22% for Viktor Yushchenko. 853 00:59:33,987 --> 00:59:36,489 Dear friends, the first piece of news, it has happened! 854 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,455 The pro-Western forces in Ukraine 855 00:59:44,539 --> 00:59:45,915 ended up winning. 856 00:59:46,791 --> 00:59:48,626 This made Vladimir Putin very angry. 857 00:59:52,088 --> 00:59:54,808 I think it's the first day of independence of Ukraine. 858 00:59:56,509 --> 01:00:00,388 That was the beginning of the confrontation 859 01:00:00,471 --> 01:00:03,808 that we're seeing today between Ukraine and Russia. 860 01:00:05,476 --> 01:00:09,564 Putin became more and more suspicious of the West's designs 861 01:00:09,647 --> 01:00:11,316 {n8}where Ukraine was concerned. 862 01:00:13,276 --> 01:00:15,153 {n8}He was always suspicious of the West, 863 01:00:15,236 --> 01:00:18,865 and he always experienced the end of the Cold War 864 01:00:18,948 --> 01:00:21,993 not as a moment of awakening and possibility, 865 01:00:22,577 --> 01:00:24,078 but as a horrendous defeat, 866 01:00:24,162 --> 01:00:27,707 and famously he said the collapse of the Soviet Union 867 01:00:27,790 --> 01:00:30,627 was the worst geopolitical tragedy of the 20th century. 868 01:00:33,254 --> 01:00:37,592 He starts to worry, especially after the Orange Revolution, 869 01:00:37,675 --> 01:00:39,719 that Ukraine is getting away. 870 01:00:40,303 --> 01:00:42,597 And if he doesn't act, then Russia, 871 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,768 just as he saw the Soviet Union losing its place in Europe without an answer, 872 01:00:46,851 --> 01:00:50,980 will have lost its dominance of the former Soviet republics as well 873 01:00:51,064 --> 01:00:52,148 without an answer. 874 01:00:55,568 --> 01:00:58,488 So he sees playing out in the 2000s 875 01:00:58,571 --> 01:01:01,574 the same thing that he saw playing out in the 1980s. 876 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,704 And this time, he wants to have an answer. 877 01:01:08,289 --> 01:01:10,625 Moscow, in his view, will not be silent. 76163

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