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WOMAN: Could you raise your hand,
please?
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Do you solemnly swear
the testimony you're about to give
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in the matter now pending shall be
the truth, the whole truth
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and nothing but the truth?
Yes, ma'am.
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MAN: Could you please state
your full name?
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I'm Jeffrey Edward Epstein.
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And my residence address is
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6100 Red Hook Boulevard
in Virgin Islands.
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Have you ever been convicted
of a crime?
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Yes.
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NARRATOR: The sex crimes of
millionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein
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are appalling...
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FEMALE:
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..more than 100 vulnerable teenagers
and young women
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trapped in his depraved web.
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FEMALE:
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Tonight, The Epstein Files,
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the latest on who knew what
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in the biggest sex-trafficking ring
in history.
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His elite circle of the wealthy
and powerful on notice
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as thousands of damning
new court documents are unsealed.
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WOMAN: They will contain
the names of people
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associated with Jeffrey Epstein...
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Prince Andrew and the former
President Bill Clinton
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have been named...
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More are expected to come out...
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In the last few weeks, they've linked
Epstein to some very famous names
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and exposed some very sordid details.
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There are videos that exist.
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We've been investigating the scandal
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since Jeffrey Epstein's death
in 2019.
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This is where Jeffrey Epstein
served his sentence.
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That he can still shock
is extraordinary.
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I won't stop fighting.
I will never be silenced.
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As you'll see, this monster's
tentacles continue to reach...
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from beyond the grave.
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MAN: What was the crime
of which you were convicted?
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Two counts.
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One, soliciting prostitution and
procuring a minor for prostitution.
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Did you, in fact, commit those acts?
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I'm going to invoke
my Fifth Amendment right.
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Refusing to answer lawyers
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on the grounds
he might incriminate himself,
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Epstein thought his own silence
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would protect him forever.
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How many times have you solicited
a minor for prostitution?
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Same answer.
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How many times have you solicited
a minor for prostitution
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in the state of Florida?
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Same answer.
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Have you ever solicited a minor for
prostitution in the Virgin Islands?
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Same answer.
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Have you ever solicited
for prostitution in New York?
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Same answer.
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Have you ever solicited
for prostitution in New Mexico?
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Same answer.
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Have you ever solicited
for prostitution in Paris?
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Same answer.
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Have you ever solicited a minor for
prostitution anywhere at any time?
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Again, I'm gonna assert my right.
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Have you ever...
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MAN: We're gonna go off the record,
thanks.
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So you are terminating
the deposition at this time?
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We have a recess in the deposition.
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TARA BROWN: With his death by suicide
in 2019
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and the jailing of his former lover
and right-hand woman
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Ghislaine Maxwell two years ago,
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Epstein's associates may well have
thought the scandal was over...
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but after a decade
of legal wrangling,
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more than 150 people
have been publicly identified,
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linked to Epstein
and his sex-trafficking network.
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He was a brilliant manipulator,
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not just of vulnerable girls
and women.
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He was a brilliant manipulator
of powerful men.
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A really heinous crime
on an absolutely massive scale
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that was allowed to continue
and continue and continue.
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EPSTEIN:
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Jeffrey Epstein's vast wealth gave
him access to whatever he wanted.
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As we now know, the globe-trotting
multi-millionaire created a network
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where young women were supplied
to him wherever he went.
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EPSTEIN:
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And with his own plane and plush
properties all over the world,
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he felt free to abuse
in the privacy of his various homes.
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This is New York, this is
Palm Beach, this is California,
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this is Paris, this is London...
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This is wherever
Epstein was touching down.
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He needed to have girls
on constant call.
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In every single state
or every place that he goes to,
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he's already got people lined up
and makers making that happen.
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None of this would ever have seen
the light of day
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if it wasn't for Virginia Giuffre.
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Her allegations of sexual abuse
against Epstein, Maxwell
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and famously, Prince Andrew
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have fascinated
and repulsed the world.
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In 2015, Virginia sued Maxwell
for defamation.
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These latest documents are,
in the main,
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sworn statements
collected for that case.
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It's hard.
It's really hard being back here.
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We met Virginia five years ago
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when she bravely returned
for the first time
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to the Epstein mansion in Manhattan.
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I was abused by people
that I can't even mention here.
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There's a lot of scars
hidden behind those walls.
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(CRIES)
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It should be ripped down.
It should be burned to the ground.
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(CRIES)
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Some of my worst memories
are from this place.
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I continue to be shocked
by just how awful this story is.
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The damage that was done
to these women
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is incredibly hard to even express.
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This has been completely
life-altering for them.
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It's incredibly unfair that this was
allowed to happen with impunity
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for so long.
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Lucia Osborne-Crowley
is a journalist and author
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who has long covered
the Epstein case.
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She believes the significance
of the new Epstein files
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can't be overstated.
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It's really important
that we understand the difference
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between having these allegations
swirl around
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and seeing that people
were willing to swear to them
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under penalty of perjury.
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It's an incredibly hard thing to do
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and they were all willing to do it
and to swear to the truth of it.
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Lucia also had a front-row seat
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when victims testified
against Epstein's co-conspirator
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Ghislaine Maxwell
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when she was convicted
for sex trafficking in 2022.
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A lot of what Jeffrey Epstein
got away with,
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he wouldn't have been able to do
without her helping to recruit,
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groom and entice underage girls.
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But she wasn't just the organiser,
was she?
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She was also an abuser herself.
Yes.
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So we also heard at trial
from multiple victims
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that she was in the room
when the abuse was happening
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and that she engaged in the abuse
herself.
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But the documents
released by the court
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put the spotlight on the role
played by others
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in Jeffrey Epstein's inner sanctum.
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The most controversial revelation
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comes from emails
sent by Sarah Ransome,
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who was abused and trafficked
by Epstein.
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Those emails claim she has seen
video recordings made by Epstein
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of an unnamed friend having sex
with Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew
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and Richard Branson.
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All three men
vehemently refute the allegation
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and in the past, even Sarah has
denied the existence of the tapes.
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But just two weeks ago,
she stood by her original claim
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in a Zoom call
with 'Good Morning Britain'.
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SARAH RANSOME: It's no secret
that everything was recorded.
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I've also seen recordings
in his office.
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There are videos that exist.
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The people that know they exist,
I'm sure,
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are very frightened
of them being released.
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Fear may also explain
the resounding silence
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from others named in this recent
mass release of documents.
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According to thousands of pages
of sworn statements
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by women abused by Epstein,
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the men now in the headlines
are potential witnesses.
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They place them at the locations
where the abuse commonly took place.
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The vast majority,
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including all the names
that we're hearing about the most,
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there are no allegations
of criminality.
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They are just listed
as potential witnesses.
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If these people are not being
accused of any wrongdoing,
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why have they been named?
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The question is what they saw,
who they met,
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what questions they asked themselves
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about why girls of that age
would be in any of the Epstein homes
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and if they didn't ask themselves
questions about that,
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why didn't they
ask themselves questions about that?
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The documents also shed light
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on the alleged dark motivation
of Epstein's sex trafficking -
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to get dirt on some of the world's
most influential people.
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There is, for the first time,
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the idea that he was quizzing
the girls
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he sent to famous people
for details of what happened,
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for blackmail purposes.
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That has always been the suspicion,
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that this man
had cameras everywhere,
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that he kept blackmail tapes.
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That was his leverage.
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So, I heard about Jeffrey Epstein
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sort of on the social Upper East
Side grapevine in New York
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for a couple of years
around the end of the 1990s
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and early 2000s.
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You know, he was a figure of mystery
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in that
all people really knew about him
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was he had kind of out of nowhere
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bought the biggest townhouse
in Manhattan
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and this guy who no-one really knew
very much about,
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he seemed to be a bit of a recluse.
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He was known to be unconventional.
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People thought
he was very good-looking
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and the only thing
that people really knew about him,
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his sort of connector
to the outside world
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was somebody I knew -
it was Ghislaine Maxwell.
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TARA BROWN: With her link to
English socialite Ghislaine Maxwell,
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Vicky Ward was the ideal journalist
to profile Jeffrey Epstein.
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Her task in 2002
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was to investigate the man
behind the $500 million fortune.
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My then boss at 'Vanity Fair'
magazine, Graydon Carter,
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phoned me up and he said, you know,
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"I've been hearing about this guy
for years.
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"Nobody knows who he is,
where he got his money from,
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"what his deal is"
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and that was how it all began.
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But what started as a business story
quickly turned sinister.
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He liked to have parties
with young women
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but given that he was
a very wealthy...
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at the time, you know,
good-looking bachelor in his 50s,
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that didn't seem in itself
on the surface so peculiar.
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But then I met this woman,
Maria Farmer,
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and she told me that she had worked
for Jeffrey Epstein.
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No-one immediately recognised how
significant Maria Farmer would become
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in the Epstein story,
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certainly not the authorities,
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when, in 1996,
she was the very first to report
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Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell
to the FBI.
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MARIA FARMER: Ghislaine came in
to get me one evening.
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Ghislaine escorts me
to Jeffrey's room
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and he's lying there and he goes,
"Well, here, sit down," you know.
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And so, right next to him.
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And then Ghislaine sit on the other
side and they began assaulting me.
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But really, while I was lying there,
the whole time, I'm thinking,
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"My sister's
been around these people."
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My sister was 16.
"She's been around them alone."
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Maria's fears were well-based.
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Her younger sister Annie had also
been abused by the paedophile pair.
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And it was the worst thing
that's ever happened to me.
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But in a pattern that would be set
in the decades ahead,
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Maria's complaint of sexual abuse
against her and Annie to police
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was ignored.
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They just kept it all quiet,
put it in the bottom drawer
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and they were so dismissive that
I just felt daunted and I stopped.
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For more than 25 years,
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Maria Farmer has been filling
her canvas with the Epstein story,
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a tale of horror that began in 1995
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when, as a gifted student
at the New York Academy of Art,
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she met Jeffrey Epstein
and Ghislaine Maxwell.
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Epstein gave her a job -
to buy art for his New York mansion.
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As well, she became
an unwitting witness
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to a steady stream of teenagers
and young women
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through Epstein's front door.
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And shockingly,
she had direct evidence
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of Maxwell scouting girls
for the insatiable millionaire.
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What did you witness?
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So, several times,
I was in the car with her
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and she would ask the driver
to stop the car
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and she'd dash across to the school
or the park
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or wherever she was going
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and she would, like,
write down her phone number
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for a child, a young girl
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and then I'd see that child
at the house
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and she'd say,
"They're auditioning," you know.
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"I found a model in the park."
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And I thought it was really strange
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because I did see a couple of girls
in braces
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and I've never seen a model
with braces.
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Do you reflect on how different
life would be for so many women today
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if the FBI had investigated
your complaints in 1996?
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Yeah.
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They... Yeah.
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I think about it all the time. I do.
And it hurts a lot.
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And I never had children
because of it... (CRIES)
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because I didn't feel like
they would be safe.
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It would be another six years
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before the Farmer sisters would again
contemplate speaking openly
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about their experiences
with Jeffrey Epstein.
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When they met with journalist
Vicky Ward in 2002,
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Maria and Annie were nervous.
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Did it take a lot for you to
convince them to open up to you,
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to talk on public record?
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VICKY WARD: It did.
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There's no question
they were very afraid
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of these very powerful people
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and I felt that at least
'Vanity Fair' magazine
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was also powerful
by us publishing their allegations
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that would afford them protection.
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And so, I think
that we all proceeded...
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under that premise
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and unfortunately, that premise got
exploded in the worst possible way.
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What blew it up? What happened?
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Well, what happened,
as this piece was going forward
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and I had to finally
put all the allegations
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both of the business staff
and the Farmers' allegations
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to Jeffrey and Ghislaine,
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they, in their different ways,
went completely berserk.
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Epstein was instantly menacing,
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a man prepared to bully
and intimidate to save himself.
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He treated the entire thing
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as a game,
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a really dark, twisted game.
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He even said to me at the beginning,
"OK, let's play chess.
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"I'll be black, you be white.
You get the first move."
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And from there,
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it descended into a sort of
horrific game of cat-and-mouse.
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He would phone me every day
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and then he told me that if he
didn't like what I was gonna write,
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he was gonna have his witchdoctor
place a curse
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on my unborn children
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and that that was off the record.
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Then he told me he was going to
sue me and ruin me personally
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and I was just really frightened
of what this man could do.
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So, even though the threats
he was making against you
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were quite preposterous,
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you took him seriously?
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Like, you were generally frightened?
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Yeah, because at the end
of all of this,
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at the end of months of digging,
meeting the Farmer sisters,
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there was still this question mark -
who is this guy?
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But it only got worse
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when Epstein made a personal visit
to Vicky's boss at the time,
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the editor in chief of 'Vanity Fair'.
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Epstein got the result he demanded -
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Maria and Annie Farmer's allegations
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were cut from the story
that went to print in late 2002.
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So, as the journalist who had
uncovered these allegations
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and convinced these sisters
to go public,
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what was your reaction
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to see that your work
was not in your article?
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Well, I remember bursting into tears
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and saying to the person
who was directly my editor,
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"We've exposed these poor women.
I mean, this is unconscionable."
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But was it a reflection
also of an abuse of power?
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I mean, if Jeffrey Epstein's...
Yes.
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..walked into
the editor in chief's office...
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Yeah, I mean, of course.
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..he wasn't there to say hello,
was he?
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Of course.
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2002 was an era in which
Jeffrey Epstein and other predators,
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you know, Harvey Weinstein,
were running the world
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and women everywhere
weren't speaking up
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and the idea that two men
would have a meeting
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after which these allegations
would get pulled,
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I mean, you know,
in the world we live in now,
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you know, it's monstrous.
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Vicky's boss, Graydon Carter,
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denies being influenced
or intimidated by Epstein
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but either way,
the 'Vanity Fair' story
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didn't go anywhere near exposing
the depths of Epstein's depravity.
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I only got the very, very, very tip
of that iceberg.
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I didn't get to the den of iniquity
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that we now know was really going on
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behind Jeffrey Epstein's
closed walls
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in the mansion in New York
and on his island and in Palm Beach.
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OSBORNE-CROWLEY:
Around that mansion,
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that's where this part
of the sex trafficking ring
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really kind of came to life.
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TARA BROWN: Palm Beach Florida is
home to some of the wealthiest people
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in America,
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an exclusive enclave
for the rich and powerful,
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including former president
Donald Trump.
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Jeffrey Epstein's luxurious home here
graced the foreshore,
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its white walls and inscrutable
exterior hiding a dark truth,
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a place where it's estimated
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more than 100 girls were tricked
and abused,
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their lives changed in an instant.
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WOMAN: At 14,
I was still in middle school.
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I was straight-A student.
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Never even got a B.
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I played the first chair trumpet,
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I was the captain
of the cheerleading squad
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and then after I met Jeffrey,
I just completely quit.
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This is where you were living
for a while?
365
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Yes, this is where I was living
when I met Jeffrey Epstein.
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Epstein was 48
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when a teenaged Courtney Wild
entered his orbit in 2001.
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At the time, she was living
in this trailer park,
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one of West Palm Beach's
poorest communities.
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Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein
targeted areas like this?
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Yeah, definitely targeted, you know,
children like myself
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that were vulnerable to him
and his money
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and we felt like we were being
helped and saved by him
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but ultimately
he was just preying on us.
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As Courtney told me in 2019,
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her experience started when she was
brought to the millionaire
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by another 14-year-old
to make much-needed cash.
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The trap had been set.
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What were you expecting to happen?
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Why did you think
you were coming here?
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Well, I knew that I was coming here
to give a guy a massage
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and to make $200.
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I did know that.
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It was never told to me
that I would be molested by this man
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or anything like that.
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Inside, Courtney very soon discovered
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the massage was cover
for a terrible, well-rehearsed crime.
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We were taken upstairs.
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There was, like, a circular
stairwell that led to a hallway
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that led to his bedroom,
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which the massage table
was in his bedroom/bathroom.
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You know, he asked us
to get comfortable,
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to just, you know, take our clothes
off, to be in our bra and panties.
394
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Were you abused during that session?
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And so, we would massage him
for about 30 minutes
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and then, whenever he was ready,
you know, rolled over
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and asked the person that brought me
to go downstairs and wait
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and once that happened, then that's
when the sexual abuse happened, yes.
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You're 14
and in a completely alien situation,
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an incomprehensible position.
401
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How did you react?
402
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I just remember afterwards
how I felt walking down the stairs
403
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,240
and I just felt so dirty
404
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,760
and so, like...just like a piece
of me had been taken.
405
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,640
Dirty. I felt...
It was like my dirty little secret.
406
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,200
Virginia Giuffre's experience
was eerily similar,
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00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,440
except her recruiter
was not a fellow teen
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00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,640
but the sophisticated and seemingly
trustworthy Ghislaine Maxwell.
409
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,960
Virginia was 16 and working
at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort
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when Maxwell spied her
reading a textbook on massage.
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VIRGINIA GIUFFRE: She just seemed
very nice and she said,
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"I've got a person that I know
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"who's actually looking for
a travelling masseuse
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"and if you want,
I can get you an interview with him.
415
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"If he likes you,
we can get you educated.
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"You'll be a real masseuse
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"and you'll get to travel
and see the world."
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And, you know, like, she made it
sound like it was a dream come true.
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And it wasn't.
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Within hours, Virginia was
at Epstein's Florida mansion,
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lured there by Maxwell's promise.
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It ended
in a devastating sexual attack.
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So, put it this way, we did the back
of him, we did the back of Epstein
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and then, when he turned over,
that's when I was instructed to...
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to...
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That's when I was instructed
to get undressed and...
427
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and have sex with Jeffrey Epstein
428
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while Ghislaine Maxwell
was participating as well.
429
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Do you want to take a moment?
430
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,640
No, I'm OK.
431
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,080
I'm OK.
432
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:27,360
So, you were abused by both of them
in your very first encounter?
433
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,960
Yeah. Both of them. I was abused
by Ghislaine and Epstein.
434
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I don't mean to sound sexist
in any way, shape or form
435
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but I expected it from a man
436
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but I didn't expect it from a woman.
437
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,320
And...
438
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Yeah, I think
that's what hurts the most.
439
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,600
(CRIES)
440
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Maxwell's role
as Epstein's co-conspirator,
441
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for which she is now serving
a 20-year jail term, is well known.
442
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,160
But in truth,
it went well beyond Maxwell.
443
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The pair devised a scheme to feed
Epstein's voracious appetite.
444
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They lured poverty-stricken girls in
with cash,
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fanning their dreams
of a better life.
446
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,280
According to journalist
Lucia Osborne-Crowley,
447
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,880
by the time the sexual abuse began,
448
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many were too invested
in their promises to get out.
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LUCIA OSBORNE-CROWLEY:
This was a well-oiled machine
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of finding vulnerable young girls
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who really needed
someone to look after them
452
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and then also using those girls
453
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to try and entrap
younger and younger girls.
454
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And a lot of that, it seems,
was developed in Florida.
455
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,120
How many girls do you think
you brought to Jeffrey Epstein?
456
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,520
At the minimum, 50.
457
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,720
But anywhere from 50 to 70 girls.
458
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,480
What were their ages?
459
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,360
The same ages as me. 14, 15, 16.
460
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,400
I just hold a lot of guilt and shame
for doing those things
461
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:12,360
and just to know that I had
any influence on that happening
462
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to somebody else
463
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,360
just, you know, it really is just
devastating and breaks my heart.
464
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,120
Epstein's vile pyramid scheme
might have continued unchecked
465
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,080
if not for the stepmother
of one of his teenage victims,
466
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who called the Palm Beach
Police Department in 2005.
467
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WOMAN: (ON PHONE)
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That initial call was so alarming
that police launched an investigation
469
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,960
and it didn't take them long
to uncover
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00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,160
the revolting scale
of Epstein's network.
471
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,080
Police interviewed
a staggering 40 victims,
472
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whose ages range from 13 to 16.
473
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,200
Their accounts were shocking enough.
474
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,240
But what they found in Epstein's home
475
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,480
was a creepy insight
into his depraved life -
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00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:05,400
dozens of nude photos, a steam room,
and a massage room with sex toys.
477
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,760
Among the damning evidence
were phone message pads
478
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,600
clearly showing a trade
in young girls,
479
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,360
scheduling them
for massage appointments
480
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,360
and flight logs
listing girls being transported
481
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,760
aboard Jeffrey's private plane
dubbed 'The Lolita Express'.
482
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,960
I think it's really important
to know
483
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,360
that it is actually much, much worse
than we think.
484
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,080
In 2006,
much to the relief of police,
485
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,640
this predator was finally caught,
486
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,240
a wealth of evidence
amassed against him.
487
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,400
But his own vast wealth
and his immense influence
488
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,160
saw him escape charges that should've
landed him in jail for life.
489
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,520
Instead, he served a mere 13 months
490
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,440
when prosecutors
accepted his guilty plea
491
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,440
to the minor charge of soliciting
a child for prostitution.
492
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,800
But while he was technically
an inmate
493
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,080
at the Palm Beach County Stockade,
494
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,200
he really just slept there.
495
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,960
It was essentially
a slap on the wrist.
496
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,640
He got 12-hour work release
from prison every single day.
497
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,120
Other journalists have described it
498
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,560
as he just basically had to sleep
in a crappy motel
499
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,080
for, you know, a bit over a year.
500
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:25,240
For many, the most outrageous part
of Epstein's plea bargain
501
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,040
was a seedy deal he struck
with the attorney-general
502
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,120
for the Southern District of Florida.
503
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:36,440
It gave Epstein and any alleged
co-conspirators, known or unknown,
504
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,960
immunity from further prosecution,
supposedly forever.
505
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:46,200
Worse still, none of his victims
were told about the deal.
506
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,600
How do you feel about that?
507
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,680
To be sexually abused by a man
and to have the government know
508
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:58,880
and them actually, you know,
co-conspire with the perpetrator
509
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,560
to make sure nothing happens to him,
it's just so...
510
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,480
It just sounds unreal.
511
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,480
Why do you think
the government did that?
512
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:13,840
My personal opinion about that is,
you know, money, power
513
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:19,080
and I think that there was
a lot of people involved in this,
514
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,960
this underage minor sex ring
that they were running
515
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,800
and I think everybody wanted it
to go away.
516
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,320
So you believe that there was
a conspiracy at play here?
517
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,880
Oh, absolutely.
518
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,600
It really is a sordid story,
everything that happened in Florida
519
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,640
and the fact that authorities did
know, did arrest him, did charge him
520
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,560
and he still was able to continue.
521
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,320
And according to Virginia Giuffre,
522
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,360
the abuse didn't stop with Jeffrey
Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.
523
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,200
She was not just
their sexual plaything.
524
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,000
She was now part of their
international sex-trafficking ring,
525
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,440
lent out to whomever they liked.
526
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,120
I was trafficked
to other billionaires,
527
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:10,280
I was trafficked to politicians,
professors, even royalty.
528
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,240
It was the elite of the world.
529
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,040
It was the people who run the world.
530
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,960
It was the most powerful people
in the world.
531
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:36,240
VICKY WARD: Ghislaine was this sort
of very exotic, glamorous figure
532
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,640
who would drop in
533
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,800
and, to be honest, namedrop
a lot of famous names
534
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,680
that she'd been hanging out with.
535
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,280
We heard about Bill Clinton and
sort of all sorts of other people
536
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:52,840
and we also knew that she was
very good friends with Prince Andrew
537
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,360
and that Jeffrey Epstein
would sometimes have Prince Andrew
538
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,560
to stay.
539
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,160
TARA BROWN: As a British expat
in New York,
540
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,480
journalist Vicky Ward
moved in similar circles
541
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,440
to socialite Ghislaine Maxwell,
542
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:13,320
the daughter of disgraced megarich
media tycoon Robert Maxwell.
543
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,360
Following her father's suspicious
death aboard his boat in 1991,
544
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,360
Ghislaine moved to New York,
545
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,480
where she started her relationship
with the millionaire Jeffrey Epstein.
546
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:31,440
In 2002, Vicky was assigned to write
a profile of the mysterious financier
547
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,920
for 'Vanity Fair' magazine.
548
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,480
When I began reporting this piece,
549
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,680
I actually ran into
Ghislaine Maxwell
550
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,080
and I sort of said, breezily,
551
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,120
"Oh, Ghislaine, yes,
I'm writing this story
552
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,640
"about Jeffrey and the money"
553
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:51,040
and I was really taken aback
when she started to cry.
554
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:56,880
I'm, like,
"Why is this woman crying?
555
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,560
"This doesn't seem to make
any sense."
556
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:05,240
Obviously, I didn't know that I was,
from her perspective,
557
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,480
probably in danger
of pulling back the curtain
558
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,080
on what was an absolutely horrific
criminal sexual enterprise
559
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,240
involving both of them.
560
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,440
Epstein and Maxwell
complemented each other perfectly.
561
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,840
He had the money she was used to,
she had the contacts he wanted,
562
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,280
the most high-profile, of course,
being Prince Andrew,
563
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:33,160
who was famously accused of abusing
the then 17-year-old Virginia Giuffre
564
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,560
at Epstein and Maxwell's invitation.
565
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,400
We went to Club Tramp
and he danced with me
566
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,800
and he sweats a lot
and he smells funny and then...
567
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,880
and then we get in the car
and Ghislaine tells me in the car
568
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:57,120
that I have to do what I do
for Jeffrey for Prince Andrew
569
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,880
and that's when I learned
what was going to happen.
570
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,880
There's a slight problem
with...with...with...with...
571
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,120
with the sweating, um, because, uh,
572
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,680
I...I have
a peculiar medical condition,
573
00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:11,840
which is that I don't sweat, um...
574
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,680
Or I didn't sweat at the time.
And that was...
575
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:17,560
Oh, actually, yes, I didn't sweat
at the time
576
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,160
because I, um, had...had suffered
what I would describe
577
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,600
as an overdose of adrenaline
in the Falklands War
578
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,520
when I was shot at,
579
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,520
uh, and I simply...
580
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,200
It was... It was... It was almost
impossible for me to...to sweat.
581
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:38,000
It was a claim and counterclaim that
turned this royal's life upside down.
582
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:43,000
His ill-advised decision
to appear on the BBC in 2019
583
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,080
left him if not sweating,
then red-faced.
584
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,680
His attempt to convince us he knew
nothing of the teenage Virginia
585
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:52,720
fell flat
586
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:58,160
when this photo, taken in 2001
in Maxwell's London apartment,
587
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,640
resurfaced.
588
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,560
She provided a photo...
Yes.
589
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,200
..of the two of you together.
Yes.
590
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:04,720
How do you explain that?
591
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,080
I can't.
592
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,200
Because I don't... I have no...
593
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:13,400
Again, I have absolutely no memory
of that photograph ever being taken.
594
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,120
Your friend suggested
that the photo is fake.
595
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,520
I think it's...
596
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,800
From the investigations
that we've done,
597
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:27,480
you can't prove whether or not
that photograph is, uh, faked or not
598
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,080
because it is a photograph
of a photograph of a photograph,
599
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,440
so it's very difficult to be able
to...to, um, to...to prove it.
600
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,280
But I...I don't remember
that photograph ever being taken.
601
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,560
So, as you know, Prince Andrew denies
the allegations against him
602
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,400
and he says that this photo's a fake,
that he was never there
603
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,320
and that it's not his arm
and they're not his fingers.
604
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,120
Those are his fingers.
That is Andrew.
605
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,200
This photo has been verified
as an original
606
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:56,120
and it's been since given to the FBI
607
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,640
and they've never contested
that it's a fake
608
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,280
and I know it's real
609
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,120
and he needs to stop
with all of these lame excuses.
610
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,960
We're sick of hearing it.
611
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,680
This is a real photo.
612
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:09,440
And that was the first time
you met him?
613
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,360
And that's the very first time
I met him.
614
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,120
And that's right before
I was abused by him.
615
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:16,800
How many times were you trafficked
to him?
616
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,480
Three times.
617
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,320
Her allegations against Prince Andrew
618
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,920
are laid bare in the newly unsealed
court documents.
619
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:30,920
The disgraced royal is mentioned
69 times and not just by Virginia.
620
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,360
Johanna Sjoberg,
who was 21 of the time,
621
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:39,200
claims to have had her own traumatic
experience with Prince Andrew
622
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:43,360
and she says she saw
the Prince and Virginia together
623
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,920
at the Epstein mansion in New York.
624
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,800
According to British-based Australian
author Lucia Osborne-Crowley,
625
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,240
her account, given under oath,
is damning of the Prince.
626
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,720
We also have an allegation
from a separate victim, Johanna,
627
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,240
who has said that she was groped
by Prince Andrew,
628
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,600
so that's incredibly significant
629
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,920
because we have sworn testimony
from a second person
630
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:16,600
corroborating that he did engage
in illegal acts relating to minors.
631
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,960
Do you expect Prince Andrew to be
under further legal scrutiny?
632
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:26,040
I think that certainly Prince Andrew
will be facing
633
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,880
many, many, many more questions
634
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,840
given what we've learned
in these new documents
635
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,160
and it's really important, I think,
for the authorities
636
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,960
to look at the fact
that there is a second person
637
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,760
who's alleging that he broke the law
638
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,720
and whether they need to speak
to those victims
639
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,280
and other potential victims
640
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,160
to see if there is anything
641
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,600
that they can or should be
charging him with.
642
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,560
REPORTER: I wonder if you have
any sense now
643
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,120
of guilt, regret or shame
644
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,840
about any of your behaviour
in your friendship with Epstein.
645
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:06,360
As far as, uh, my, um, association
with him was concerned,
646
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:12,840
it had, um, uh, some seriously
beneficial, um, outcomes
647
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,400
in areas that have nothing...
648
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,360
that have nothing to do
with...with...
649
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,640
with what I would describe
as what we're talking about today.
650
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,040
Prince Andrew has since found regret
651
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,000
but continues to deny
all the allegations levelled at him.
652
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:32,680
He settled with Virginia Giuffre on
the eve of their civil trial in 2022,
653
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:36,720
reportedly for more than $15 million.
654
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,240
In settling with her, the Prince
likely thought the saga was over
655
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,760
but the release
of these latest documents
656
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:50,120
once again raises questions for him
and many other Epstein associates.
657
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,480
Those are very, very wealthy,
powerful people
658
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,000
and so far they've escaped without
many questions being asked of them.
659
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,840
Billionaire financier
Jeffrey Epstein has been arrested,
660
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,000
charged with sex trafficking
involving underage girls...
661
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,880
He could face up to 45 years
behind bars...
662
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,000
TARA BROWN: It was a prized catch.
663
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:16,240
In 2019, the roar around Jeffrey
Epstein's sex-trafficking ring
664
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,520
was so loud,
police were forced to act.
665
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,640
Neatly befitting the lifestyle
of a jet-setting millionaire,
666
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,040
Epstein was nabbed
on his private plane
667
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,360
as he landed back in the US
from Paris.
668
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,800
For his most outspoken victim,
Virginia Giuffre,
669
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,640
his arrest was a gift
more than 20 years in the making.
670
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,160
I never thought it was gonna happen.
671
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,040
I honestly thought he was just gonna
continue to get away with it
672
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,080
over and over and over again,
just like he proved so many times.
673
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:53,480
So, yeah, it was like Christmas
in July. Big-time.
674
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,560
But the expectation that Epstein
would finally face his crimes
675
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,840
was dashed when he was found dead
by suicide in his jail cell
676
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,400
a month later.
677
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,840
Disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein
has taken his own life...
678
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,560
The bombshell development
raising many new questions...
679
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,960
With Epstein dead, the charges
against him were dismissed,
680
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,000
denying justice to his many victims
681
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,280
and his co-conspirator,
British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell,
682
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,920
became the most wanted woman
in the world as she went on the run.
683
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,720
VICKY WARD:
So, the idea that this woman
684
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:38,240
could be involved in something
as depraved and horrific as this,
685
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,960
that was mind-boggling.
686
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,480
As journalist Vicky Ward
and the rest of the world
687
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,000
watched on in fascination,
688
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:53,120
Ghislaine was tracked down
to a luxurious New Hampshire hideaway
689
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,680
after eluding police for a year.
690
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:57,320
Today, we announce the arrest
691
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,240
of one of the villains
in this investigation.
692
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,880
This day, to me, has been, like,
one of the best days of my life.
693
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,200
I have not stopped smiling
and crying happy tears
694
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:12,600
and I'm just...yeah, I'm elated to
know that she's where she belongs.
695
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,480
Immediately upon Maxwell's arrest,
696
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:20,040
Virginia spoke for all the victims
of the sex-trafficking ring.
697
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,400
She ruined so many lives.
She belongs in jail.
698
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,000
You want to hurt kids,
that's where you go.
699
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:33,360
In 2022, Maxwell was convicted
on five sex-trafficking counts,
700
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,840
the then 60-year-old
sentenced to 20 years in jail.
701
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,440
She has lodged an appeal
which will be reviewed in March
702
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,720
and continues to claim her innocence
from jail,
703
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,800
as she told her brother,
Kevin Maxwell.
704
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,040
Everyone is always asking,
"Who is the real G?
705
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,000
"Who's the real Ghislaine?"
706
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,480
It's definitely
not the person portrayed.
707
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,120
I feel completely divorced
708
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:03,960
from the person that people
reference and talk about.
709
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,560
And so, the biggest misconception
of you?
710
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:12,240
That I'm the cruellest, meanest,
'horriblest' person who's done...
711
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:13,360
committed crimes.
712
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,680
Yeah.
713
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,200
And, I mean, it...
I... I literally haven't seen...
714
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,640
any details that are accurate.
715
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,160
Lucia Osborne-Crowley
was one of the few journalists
716
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,360
granted access to the court
to report on Maxwell's trial.
717
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,840
It was surprising that even at her
own federal sex-trafficking trial,
718
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,080
she didn't appear to have
a lot of humility
719
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,240
she didn't appear to have
and still was incredibly confident
720
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:51,640
and I certainly got the sense that
she did not expect to be convicted.
721
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,520
And certainly no remorse.
722
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,960
Certainly no remorse.
723
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,160
She basically said that she was
sorry for the damage
724
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,560
that Jeffrey Epstein had caused them
725
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:00,600
and that's all she said.
726
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,680
With Maxwell behind bars
and Epstein dead,
727
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:07,160
this case appeared to be resolved.
728
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,040
But the recent release
of these court documents
729
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,960
shows how little we still know.
730
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,720
There are so many names that we are
left with question marks about.
731
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,880
What was his appeal?
732
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:25,640
Why did some of the most powerful
men in the world flock to him?
733
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:30,560
What was Bill Gates doing
around Jeffrey Epstein?
734
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,600
I'd love to hear from Bill Clinton
what he saw in Jeffrey Epstein.
735
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,960
That would be great to know.
736
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:41,880
In all, more than 150 names have been
linked to the disgraced millionaire
737
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,440
but apart from some denials
of any wrongdoing,
738
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,040
the silence from those identified
has been deafening.
739
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,360
We've got evidence
of sworn testimony
740
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,880
where people are naming
very, very powerful people
741
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,240
who would've been
in a position potentially
742
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,600
to do something
about what was going on here
743
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,160
and instead, we have
a sex-trafficking ring that went on
744
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,000
for at least two decades,
possibly three,
745
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,800
with almost complete impunity.
746
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,880
And so, that's the point
747
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,320
that I think we really all need to
hold onto about scale here,
748
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,840
is that...
not the splashiness of these names
749
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,280
but just how many there are,
750
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,360
just how many people there are
that victims pointed to, to say,
751
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,080
"This person can corroborate
my story.
752
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,240
"This person can be a witness.
This person met me on the island.
753
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,560
"This person saw me."
754
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,400
And those are very, very wealthy,
powerful people
755
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,280
and so far they've escaped without
many questions being asked of them.
756
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,040
We'd have to assume
that they're just running from this
757
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,160
as far and as fast as they can.
758
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,760
Yes.
759
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,400
Well, I mean, I've been
quite surprised at the silence
760
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,440
over the last couple of weeks,
if I'm completely honest.
761
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,680
I would've thought
that at least some of these people
762
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:55,040
would've felt an obligation
to do some explaining.
763
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,680
VICKY WARD: At the very least,
association with Jeffrey Epstein
764
00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:02,280
raises questions of judgement,
right?
765
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,000
Nobody looks good for having
hung out with Jeffrey Epstein,
766
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,680
now knowing everything that we know.
767
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:10,720
Whether or not they should be
held accountable
768
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,280
is to whether or not
there was any criminal activity.
769
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,200
And obviously we just don't know.
770
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:20,720
One has to hope that
because we now know so much more,
771
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,560
that there is so much
public scrutiny on this,
772
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,680
that the wheels of justice
will turn in a way
773
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:31,560
that they definitely didn't
for a very long time.
774
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,360
The legacy of Jeffrey Epstein
and Ghislaine Maxwell
775
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,360
is to expose a darkness
too awful to imagine.
776
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,520
But as difficult as it is
to comprehend,
777
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,960
it would seem
there's even more to be revealed.
778
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,320
Certainly, from what I know,
there are more people
779
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:51,840
who aren't even on this list
780
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,200
that either knew
or potentially participated in
781
00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:57,440
what was going on
around Jeffrey Epstein.
782
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,760
Do you expect that others
will be charged,
783
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,000
that others will face prosecution?
784
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,080
I very much hope so.
785
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,600
I think it's really important to
know it is actually much, much worse
786
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:11,880
than we think
787
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,160
and that we're comfortable
accepting.
788
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,200
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