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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:16,720 Whenever you speak about an Iranian intervention, 2 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,800 the mastermind behind it is Qasem Soleimani, 3 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,640 and the one that leads it is Qasem Soleimani. 4 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,560 Most people have never heard of him, 5 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,240 but he's been pulling the strings behind the scenes 6 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,840 in the Middle East for decades. 7 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,920 We saw Qasem Soleimani as a very capable, 8 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,960 charismatic, skilled, professionally competent, 9 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,240 diabolically evil human being. 10 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,840 He's orchestrated deadly attacks on British and American soldiers. 11 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,600 It was a constant arms race - their bombs got bigger, 12 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,480 our protection got bigger. 13 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,560 Iran's military mastermind is now at the centre 14 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,480 of the global stage. 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,400 He started to become a commander, 16 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,480 also sort of a spy, 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,480 but he seemed to have more power than any kind of person 18 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,560 on our side ever had. 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,280 But who is Qasem Soleimani? 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,200 And is he shaping up for a new conflict with the West 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,600 in the region? 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,600 We can see him as the Darth Vader 23 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,320 of contemporary Middle Eastern politics. 24 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,800 ARCHIVE: They're replying to the bullets with Molotov cocktails. 25 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,040 It's about the only use they've got now for American Coca-Cola bottles. 26 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,560 The man who would become such a central figure in the Middle East 27 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,480 was a child of the Iranian Revolution. 28 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,360 Qasem Soleimani comes from a very working-class background. 29 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,320 He really came of age at the time of the Islamic Revolution. 30 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,080 He was really gripped by it, 31 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,200 for him, this was something that motivated him. 32 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,960 The revolution swept away the monarchy, 33 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,520 supported by the West, 34 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,880 and brought Ayatollah Khomeini to power. 35 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,440 Iran became an Islamic republic, 36 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,920 a religious state based on Shia Muslim beliefs. 37 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,560 America, and its ally Israel, now became the enemy. 38 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,720 Ayatollah Khomeini's world view 39 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,800 was very distinctly anti-Western in its perspective, 40 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,880 and seeing Israel as one of the chief enemies of the Muslim world. 41 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,760 ARCHIVE: These young men, practising to be soldiers, 42 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,240 want to be part of the army of 20 million 43 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,200 that Khomeini has called for. 44 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:07,840 A new military force was born - the Revolutionary Guard. 45 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,760 A young Soleimani joined up. 46 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,280 Qasem Soleimani is a genuine and sincere believer in the ideals 47 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,480 of the revolution. I mean, he is an austere revolutionary, 48 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,160 and his loyalty to the supreme leader is uncompromising. 49 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,120 ARCHIVE: Ayatollah Khomeini has faced the renewed threat of American 50 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,000 military intervention, and, more immediately, 51 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,320 a flare-up in the border fighting with Iraq. 52 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,920 Within months of the revolution, Iran was invaded by its neighbour, 53 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,560 Saddam Hussein's Iraq. 54 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,200 As a young commander, 55 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,080 Qasem Soleimani began to make a name for himself. 56 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,600 A million Iranians died in the bloody eight-year war against Iraq. 57 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:44,040 ARCHIVE: Religion is all. 58 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,200 Prayer and slaughter are intermingled. 59 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,120 Somehow, Soleimani survived, 60 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,280 creating the myth of him as a living martyr. 61 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,880 While Qasem Soleimani was fighting Iraq, 62 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,400 the Islamic Revolution was being spread 63 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,800 to another country in the Middle East. 64 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,440 ARCHIVE: Hezbollah is Iran's creation. 65 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,360 Ayatollah Khomeini founded it in its present form in Tehran 66 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,000 eight years ago. 67 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,560 Hezbollah, the Shia party of God, 68 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,560 grew as a response to Israel's invasion of neighbouring Lebanon. 69 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,320 The philosophy of the Islamic Revolution 70 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,880 was and is that the world 71 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:53,920 should be a new Muslim, Shi'ite caliphate. 72 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,680 There are two obstacles to the Iranians. 73 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,680 One is the United States of America, 74 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,240 which they call the big Satan, 75 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,280 and the other one is the Israeli democracy, 76 00:06:08,280 --> 00:06:10,600 which they call the small Satan. 77 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,240 Hezbollah became a powerful force in the region, 78 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,480 carrying out terror attacks against America and Israel. 79 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,320 The leading cause of death of Americans overseas, 80 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,680 and hostage-taking, 81 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,440 was all Lebanese Hezbollah people and Iranian people. 82 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,320 They kidnapped people around the world as a business. 83 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,560 I survived the April 1983 bombing of our embassy. 84 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:50,120 I was there for the bombing of the Marine barracks. 85 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,880 244 dead Marines. 86 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,800 That was Iran projecting power beyond its borders 87 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:01,080 to demonstrate that it was truly a regional superpower. 88 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,920 "Beware." 89 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,680 And we then came to see Qasem Soleimani emerge 90 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,840 as the field commander for Iranian force projection. 91 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:18,240 In the 1990s, Soleimani joined the Quds Force, 92 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,640 the most elite and secretive unit in the Revolutionary Guard. 93 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,800 The Quds Force specialised in what we might term 94 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,560 low-intensity warfare, which is, basically, aspects of infiltration - 95 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,280 being able to build networks, manipulate, 96 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,240 infiltrate into different societies. 97 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,240 It's, in some ways, an Iranian way in warfare. 98 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,120 America was still the Great Satan in 1998, 99 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,840 when Qasem Soleimani became head of the Quds Force. 100 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,200 He was running all military and intelligence operations 101 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,600 outside Iran. 102 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,680 But the whole world was about to change. 103 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,320 DISTANT SIREN 104 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,560 ARCHIVE: In the past few minutes, 105 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,800 a plane has crashed into the World Trade Centre in New York. 106 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,800 This is the face of warfare in the 21st century. 107 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,480 I was actually on my way to New York that morning. 108 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,840 We could see the smoke coming from the first tower. 109 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,880 And, as we landed at LaGuardia, the second tower was hit. 110 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,120 And that's when we all knew that this was not an accident, 111 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,960 it was a deliberate attack. 112 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,720 9/11 would turn the Middle East on its head. 113 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,120 The attackers were Sunni Muslim extremists - 114 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,560 opposed not only to the West, but also Shia Iran. 115 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:06,920 Iranians cried for the American victims of Al-Qaeda. 116 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,920 We all realised that this development opened up a moment 117 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,600 in which the United States and Iran could cooperate effectively. 118 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,760 We both had the same enemies in Afghanistan. 119 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:25,680 Within a week, I was on one of the first planes out to Geneva. 120 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,440 Secret talks began between Ryan Crocker and an Iranian diplomat. 121 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,320 He'd been sent by Qasem Soleimani to explore ways to defeat 122 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,840 the Taliban, Al-Qaeda's protectors in Afghanistan. 123 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,000 He produced a map that showed... 124 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:57,400 ..the Taliban order of battle throughout Afghanistan, 125 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,200 and he accompanied that with the advice 126 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,280 that we strike certain targets first. 127 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,080 I asked if I could take notes, he said, "You can keep the map." 128 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,160 For some of these things we were doing and talking about 129 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,120 clearly reflected Qasem Soleimani's ability 130 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,040 to make things happen quickly. 131 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,360 The Taliban - Sunni extremists like Al-Qaeda - 132 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,000 threatened Shia Iran as well as America. 133 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,520 There was none of this talk about the horrors of the past - 134 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,480 what we had done to Iran, what Iran had done to us. 135 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:39,800 He was all about, 136 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,520 "Let's get on with this show, like, right now." 137 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,960 For months, American diplomats were locked in talks 138 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,160 with their traditional foe. 139 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,320 But then one speech changed everything. 140 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,240 GEORGE W BUSH: Our goal is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror 141 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,080 from threatening America, or our friends and allies, 142 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,840 with weapons of mass destruction. 143 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:12,160 I was awakened by my staff, saying something like, 144 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,880 "Boss, you're really not going to like this." 145 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,680 And right they were - I really did not like it. 146 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:24,080 Iran aggressively pursues these weapons and exports terror. 147 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,640 States like these, and their terrorist allies, 148 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,400 constitute an axis of evil, 149 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,600 arming to threaten the peace of the world. 150 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,200 We moved, literally, overnight, 151 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:42,080 from a situation in which we were doing business with Iran 152 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,960 on Afghanistan that was quite significant, 153 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:52,360 and that held open the prospect of a completely different chapter 154 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,320 opening up in our relationship. 155 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,240 "Axis of evil" slammed that door shut, and it has not since reopened. 156 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,800 Powerful voices within the White House insisted Iran 157 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,840 was their principal enemy in the region... 158 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,720 ..but, within a year, 159 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,880 America would be at war in another country in the Middle East. 160 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,200 ARCHIVE: The White House said within the past few minutes 161 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,600 that military action against Iraq is beginning... 162 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,680 It was just as dawn was breaking in Baghdad that a series 163 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:34,120 of explosions was heard in the southern suburbs... 164 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,440 Well, I entered Iraq with the invasion, the fight to Baghdad, 165 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,760 in late March of 2003. 166 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,440 Certainly, from fairly early on, 167 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,520 Iran had been getting more and more active in Iraq. 168 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,000 The US-led invasion of Iraq would bring Western troops 169 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,120 into Qasem Soleimani's back yard. 170 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,480 Iran was part of the whole complex political dynamic 171 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,240 that we were trying to handle. 172 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,960 They were definitely a force that you had to recognise 173 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,320 as being an inevitability. 174 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,480 EXPLOSIONS 175 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,320 COMMS: Roger, requesting ammo resupply, over! 176 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,160 With the invasion, what happened is, Iran perceived, 177 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,000 "Now, we've got Americans on the east, 178 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,400 "Americans on the west, 179 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,840 "and Americans to the south." 180 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,560 I think it could look like a pretty threatening period for Iran. 181 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:04,360 Iran was worried about a pre-eminent American presence, 182 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,320 and the instability that comes 183 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,360 from the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. 184 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,640 Qasem Soleimani was, by now, 185 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,840 Iran's leading military commander and strategist - 186 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,840 but only a few Western intelligence officers 187 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,160 were aware of him. 188 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,400 I met Qasem Soleimani once. 189 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,120 It was an inadvertent sort of a bump. 190 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,440 He doesn't look like 191 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,000 what you would expect a guerrilla leader to look like. 192 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,120 He's a polished man, 193 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:39,160 and a capable man with a significant command presence about him, 194 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,760 a professional. 195 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,880 Qasem Soleimani was interested in outcomes and processes 196 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:52,040 that would keep the Iraqi state off balance, always. 197 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,680 So, that no matter who ruled in Baghdad, 198 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,160 they would not be able to do what Saddam Hussein did - 199 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,240 threaten the very existence of Iran. 200 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,640 Iran had always had huge influence in Iraq. 201 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,920 Two thirds of Iraqis are Shia Muslims, like the Iranians. 202 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,800 A WOMAN SCREAMS 203 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,440 As the occupation dragged on, Sunni militants grew strong. 204 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,200 In 2006, they blew up an important Shia shrine. 205 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,400 Nouri al-Maliki had just been elected Prime Minister of Iraq. 206 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,560 The bombing of the Shia mosque was a turning point, 207 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,080 sparking all-out sectarian civil war. 208 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,680 It was an opportunity for Iran to help its Shia brothers, 209 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,400 forming militias in Iraq. 210 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:24,240 Iran increasingly sought to achieve greater influence, 211 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,040 not an absolute ability to direct, but an ability, certainly, 212 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,160 to throw a very significant monkey wrench into the gears. 213 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:38,000 Qasem Soleimani was in charge of Iranian policy in Iraq, 214 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,680 but he kept below the radar. 215 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:46,560 I don't recall when I first heard of Qasem Soleimani as an individual. 216 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,720 I don't remember when I first heard about Qasem Soleimani. 217 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,280 I'm quite sure that I would've read, you know, intelligence reports 218 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,840 on him, gotten a sense of him. 219 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,520 He was probably pulling the strings as the commander from afar, 220 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,080 so we knew he was there, but no, I don't think we ever saw 221 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:08,360 his direct name directly linked to any actions in Southern Iraq. 222 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,560 But behind the scenes, Qasem Soleimani's Quds Force 223 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,400 began to provide support to the Shia militias. 224 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,000 Qais Khazali was the leader of one of the most hardline groups. 225 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,000 It became more and more and more obvious 226 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,160 that they were recruiting Iraqi Shia Arabs, 227 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,760 taking them to Iran, 228 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,160 training them there, and then sending them back into Iraq 229 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,800 and then, over time, enabling them with very sophisticated weapons. 230 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,080 Attacks on coalition troops by local Shia militias 231 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,040 became more frequent and successful. 232 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:22,200 It was becoming clear Soleimani was orchestrating them. 233 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,680 He was now a potential US target. 234 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,800 We saw a convoy coming into the north, and there was reporting 235 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,920 that said Qasem Soleimani was probably with that convoy. 236 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,080 We went through the decision - "So, what do you do?" 237 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,000 Do we attack the convoy with a raid force, 238 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,600 do we bomb the convoy, 239 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,960 do we do nothing? 240 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:08,720 We weren't 100% sure, first, whether Soleimani was on the convoy, 241 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,400 and second, whether we had authority or good enough rationale to go 242 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,680 after Soleimani, particularly to kill him. 243 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,920 It was pretty dicey stuff. 244 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,760 This wasn't like normal counterterrorist ops 245 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,320 where you land and you'd have a fire fight on the ground. 246 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,800 It was almost like police ops. 247 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:33,400 The Americans swooped and arrested five Iranians. 248 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,160 They claimed to be diplomats. 249 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,720 We became convinced as we did interrogations 250 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,680 that they were all Quds Force members. 251 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,240 We were never able to confirm whether Qasem Soleimani 252 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,920 was on the convoy that night. 253 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,000 We thought that he was. 254 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,480 I had no reason later to think that he wasn't, 255 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,800 but probably that he peeled off at some point. 256 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,160 It looked like Soleimani had had a close escape. 257 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,840 Retaliation was swift and deadly. 258 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,280 It was an attack that had been carefully planned. 259 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,520 There was, in fact, subterfuge to enter a base 260 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,720 in which there were American soldiers operating. 261 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,160 They used black vehicles with the same, you know, 262 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,880 flashing lights and everything else that we had for our forces. 263 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,160 They managed to hoodwink the guards in the facility 264 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,160 as they drove through. 265 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,040 They got in, essentially unscathed, 266 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,640 and then quickly, er, with the element of surprise, 267 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,880 seized a number of Americans. 268 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:43,280 Five American soldiers were kidnapped from their own base. 269 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,720 It was an audacious operation. 270 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,720 The Karbala attack reflected a real upping of the ante. 271 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,240 This is no longer just militias with AK-47s. 272 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:58,440 This is a real special operation, carried out very skilfully 273 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,560 by quite highly trained individuals. 274 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,000 One US soldier was killed immediately. 275 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,360 Four others discovered dead in a car days later. 276 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:15,520 We found vehicles with the Americans in them. 277 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:20,640 One had written, before he died, his name in dust or blood. 278 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:25,360 So it created a tremendous amount of emotion on the American side, 279 00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:29,280 and our strong belief that the Quds Force fingerprints 280 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,720 were all over this. 281 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,600 And Qasem Soleimani's? 282 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,640 Well, we assumed that everything the Quds Force did 283 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,520 was under the control of Qasem Soleimani. 284 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,080 By this point, he was starting to be a hugely respected... 285 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,600 I don't want to say mythological figure, 286 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,200 but I probably ought to say, someone who had tremendous reach. 287 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,400 Then, in Southern Iraq, the British received a tip-off. 288 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,000 We got intelligence one night 289 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,720 that there was a high-priced militia cell down in our base, 290 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,080 and so we called the Special Forces down to do a raid on this. 291 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,160 Get in there, get in there, get in there! 292 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:17,560 And the people they captured in the raid were the 293 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,960 Khazali brothers, Qais Khazali, in particular, being well known. 294 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,160 On their laptops were found to be clear links 295 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,280 to all kinds of violence, all kinds of links to Iran. 296 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,760 They had actually digitised all of the so-called pocket litter - 297 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,720 ie, everything that was in the wallets of the captain 298 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,600 and the others that were killed, er, from the American side, 299 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,600 and we were able to get that off the hard drive, 300 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,080 and that told us that this is very clearly their after-action report 301 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,880 to their Quds Force handlers. 302 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,120 Well, we just knew from their reaction when he got captured 303 00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:58,040 that he was, he was one of those subordinate commanders 304 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,280 under Soleimani, which is why we didn't see Soleimani on the ground, 305 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,720 because he had people like Qais Khazali to do his work for him. 306 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:11,800 In prison, under interrogation, Qais Khazali gave a detailed account 307 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,760 of Iran's involvement. 308 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,960 Today, he is unrepentant. 309 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,400 It caused the Iranians huge embarrassment. 310 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,000 They wanted to keep themselves in the shadows and not be seen, 311 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,720 a bit like when you touch a sea anemone or an octopus. 312 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,000 They just retracted their, er, their feelers out 313 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,560 and sort of withdrew back into Iran 314 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,080 and went very quiet for a few weeks afterwards, 315 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,000 while they allowed the brouhaha 316 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,640 about themselves being exposed there, while that rolled over. 317 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:15,480 It reflected the fact that we were in a shadow war with Iran. 318 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:22,200 Qasem Soleimani's shadow war was to have devastating consequences 319 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,120 for British soldiers fighting in southern Iraq. 320 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,760 ARCHIVE: British servicemen were mourning the deaths 321 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,520 of four soldiers, two of them women... 322 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,160 ARCHIVE: A roadside bomb ripped through a Warrior armoured vehicle. 323 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,960 During the Iraq War, 179 British soldiers were killed. 324 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,760 Hundreds more were injured and maimed, many for life. 325 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,480 2007 was the peak. 326 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,360 It was the most intense period of violence since the invasion. 327 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:03,040 We had 41 people killed in my time there, 328 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,360 and innumerable people injured. 329 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,120 And one of the most significant incidents for me 330 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:14,240 was when a mine blew a Warrior off the road 331 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,480 and killed four people in it. 332 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,800 Made all the more tragic 333 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,320 by the fact there were two women inside there, 334 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,920 one of whom had been at Sandhurst with Prince Harry. 335 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:30,200 And you could just feel the sort of will to fight in Iraq ebbing away 336 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,240 in the British nation. 337 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:40,560 Coalition forces were being attacked with a new and devastating weapon - 338 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,960 EFPs, explosively formed projectiles. 339 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,600 Most people hit with an EFP will die, 340 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,280 simply because the injury is catastrophic. 341 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,480 You then have the behind-armour effects, 342 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,480 you have the spalling from the armour, 343 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,040 all spinning around inside, 344 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,480 so it wasn't a nice thing to see. 345 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,240 People were literally torn to shreds. 346 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,520 Task Force Troy was set up to track the source of the weapons 347 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,920 and target the militias using them. 348 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,480 No-one has spoken publicly about their work before. 349 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,440 We knew Iraq didn't have the technology to design itself, 350 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,680 so the intellectual property, and the means of creating an EFP 351 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,600 to devastating effect was coming from Iran. 352 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,720 And that was backed up by the numbering 353 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,840 and the lettering on the packaging that we saw on the EFPs 354 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,640 as we found them in caches. 355 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,000 The explosive devices were coming into Iraq 356 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,160 across its porous borders with Iran, 357 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,720 especially through the southern marshes. 358 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,320 You have the high reed beds, you have very small, narrow boats, 359 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,040 and once it gets into the marshes, it doesn't really matter 360 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,800 what surveillance you have, it's extremely difficult to follow 361 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,040 where those boats are going. 362 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,440 What they did was, they supplied the local militias 363 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,840 with explosive devices, and so we knew that was happening, 364 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,040 but we simply couldn't stop them coming in. 365 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,760 We were playing a cat-and-mouse game 366 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,280 with the insurgents on a daily basis. 367 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,600 Their bombs got bigger, our protection got bigger. 368 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,440 It didn't really matter what technology you threw at the problem, 369 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,400 they would find a counter to that and get ahead of you again. 370 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,640 So this was very calculated by Iran, by the Revolutionary Guard, 371 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,400 by, presumably, Qasem Soleimani? 372 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,840 Yes, I think, absolutely. It was an intimidation campaign. 373 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,680 I mean, it wasn't all-out war, but it was just keeping the heat on us, 374 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,680 saying, "You'd better get out," you know. 375 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,000 GUNFIRE 376 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,840 They're moving up on us, they're moving up on us! 377 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,920 By the end of 2007, the Shia militias 378 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,160 had the small British force under siege in Basra. 379 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,280 Back, back, back! 380 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,480 He said, "Are you with me?" 381 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,320 I said, "But I need you - don't get into a fight immediately. 382 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,720 "Your forces cannot deal with what is on the ground there 383 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,920 "without a lot of support from us." 384 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,320 But Prime Minister al-Maliki pressed on to Basra. 385 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,120 The Shia militias, backed by Qasem Soleimani's 386 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,480 Quds Force, seemed about to take the city. 387 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,000 Al-Maliki's life was on the line. 388 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,320 Dave and I were sitting in my office with a cellphone 389 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,520 on speaker, talking to him down there. 390 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:32,680 You could hear the rockets coming in on Basra Palace, where he was. 391 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,000 General Petraeus and I were certain that he was going to be overrun, 392 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000 literally, personally. 393 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,840 In the middle of the battle, General Petraeus was told 394 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,280 that the President of Iraq in Baghdad 395 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,520 had received a message from Iran. 396 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,920 He said, "I've just come back from a meeting 397 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,320 "with Qasem Soleimani," 398 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,360 which just was a true jaw-dropper. 399 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,760 And he said, "And I have a message for you from General Soleimani." 400 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,640 And he said, "It goes like this. 401 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:14,800 "General Petraeus, you should know that I, Qasem Soleimani, 402 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,480 "control the policy for Iran 403 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,760 "with respect to Iraq, 404 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,800 "and, also, Syria, Afghanistan, 405 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,360 "Gaza, and so on." 406 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,880 And so, the point he was making was, 407 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,480 "You should deal with me. 408 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,400 "Forget all these others, forget the Iranian diplomats, 409 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,480 "forget these others. We should do a deal." 410 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,840 To some degree, there was something to this, 411 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,240 because, if you really think about it, I was the sheikh 412 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,720 of the strongest tribe in Iraq at that time, in many respects. 413 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,880 Erm, that was the first time that he came up on the radar, 414 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,720 saying, "Hey, guys, let's talk about this." 415 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,400 Everything before that, including the beginning 416 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,160 of this conflict, was through the barrel of a gun, 417 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,760 until that was not quite working so well for them. 418 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,880 The president looked at me expectantly and asked what message 419 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,960 he should convey back to Qasem Soleimani, 420 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,640 and I said, "Tell him to pound sand." 421 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,800 I was not going to meet with some one- or two-star general 422 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:26,160 who was leading elements that were killing our soldiers, 423 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,280 and there's just no way that I was going to sit down with him. 424 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,960 After nine days of fighting, 425 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,480 with American help, the tables were turned in Basra. 426 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,480 The Shia militias were routed, 427 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,760 and Qasem Soleimani reached out again. 428 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,560 ARCHIVE: Military operations in Basra will cease 429 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,320 by the end of the week. 430 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,400 This uneasy deal comes after some very secretive negotiations, 431 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,760 and there are reports that Iranian officials 432 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,440 were involved in brokering... 433 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,400 In 2008, British troops pulled out of Basra - 434 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,560 handing it back to Iraqi government control. 435 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,720 But the city has remained under the influence of Iran. 436 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,560 As General Petraeus used to say, 437 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,800 "An army of liberation has a half-life, 438 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,440 "after which it becomes an army of occupation," 439 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,160 and so, the Iranians were merely prompting and encouraging 440 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,200 the local Iraqis to get rid of us. And, frankly, who can blame them? 441 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,920 Qasem Soleimani had emerged a winner in the war in Iraq 442 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,280 against America and Britain. 443 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,280 But in the shifting sands of the Middle East, 444 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,800 enemies would soon be forced to become allies. 445 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,280 The summer of '14 was one that anyone interested 446 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,920 in this region is always going to remember. 447 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,200 The speed at which Islamic State moved - 448 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,440 they were at the gates of Baghdad, 449 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,760 and they were at the gates of Erbil. 450 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,680 The Islamic State, or Daesh, as the Iraqis call them, 451 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,920 seized huge swathes of Northern Iraq. 452 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,960 They forced hundreds of thousands of Iraqi government troops to flee. 453 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,040 It was a stunning moment for all of us. 454 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,040 It was certainly a stunning moment for the Iraqis themselves, 455 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,800 and it was certainly a jolt to us. 456 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,440 Everybody just said, "Isis is coming to Erbil." 457 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,560 And a lot of families were afraid 458 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,320 that if Isis came, they will take the women, 459 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,960 they will cut the heads off the men, 460 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,240 they will take everything. 461 00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:16,400 It was just trying to escape from them. 462 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,760 The Kurds were then really ringing the alarm bell, 463 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,920 trying to get Washington to pay attention, 464 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,240 that this is not some flash in the pan - 465 00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:28,600 you have to act. 466 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,040 ARCHIVE: Iraq's second biggest city, Mosul, 467 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,320 has been taken over by a group of Islamist militants 468 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,600 who are allies... 469 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,960 After they took Mosul, they got a lot of American weapons, 470 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,440 and we just had the old Russian weapons. 471 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,520 We had no armoured vehicles. 472 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,560 We had no anti-tank. 473 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,080 We had no snipers. We didn't have anything. 474 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,760 The Islamic State were another Sunni extremist group - 475 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,120 the heirs to Al-Qaeda. 476 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,480 Qasem Soleimani knew they would soon become a threat to Shia Iran. 477 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,280 His men quickly crossed the border to help the Kurdish fighters. 478 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,520 There was two soldiers who came to us. 479 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,120 They say, "We are Iranian soldiers." 480 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,040 They said, "What do you want? What do you need?" 481 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,360 And I wrote down nine types of weapons, 482 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,680 and I gave them back the list. 483 00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,080 After two days, we got weapons. 484 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,520 This sniper is an M99... 485 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,000 ..we got from Iran. 486 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,960 We never had it before. 487 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,640 It had a very good effect on Isis. 488 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,720 GUNFIRE 489 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,800 Even with their new weapons, 490 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,680 the Kurds could not hold back the Islamic State. 491 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,120 The whole of Iraq was now threatened. 492 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:03,320 The Iraqi government had to fall back on the old Shia militias 493 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,520 which had killed so many British troops during the occupation. 494 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,400 Qais Khazali had been released from prison 495 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,680 and mobilised his group to fight. 496 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,120 Once again, Qasem Soleimani was pulling the strings... 497 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,480 ..but now he started to emerge from the shadows. 498 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,440 He was here, he was there. The joke we made, 499 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,200 it was like the Where's Waldo? book. 500 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,320 He was appearing in places that he'd not appeared before, 501 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,760 at least overtly. 502 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,480 For a little guy who's out there with no body armour, 503 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,280 who's 25 years old, in a militia group, fighting, 504 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,760 how can you not rise to the occasion when your boss, 505 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,960 who's, you know, the age of your grandfather, 506 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,600 is in a shirt, walking around the battle space 507 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,520 with gunfire going off? 508 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,480 It's an inspiring message that this man is fearless 509 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,040 and we must follow him. 510 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,400 I do believe there's a feeling of a guy like him 511 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,320 that he's fulfilling his destiny, and if he's killed, he's killed. 512 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,800 They have a very different way of looking at it - 513 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,160 that he is on a mission. 514 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,800 Perhaps, having taken some media-exposure lessons, 515 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,080 he had found an occasion where he could have his moments 516 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:07,040 in the sun after all those years of being in the shadows and darkness. 517 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,680 ARCHIVE: RAF jets have carried out their first air strikes 518 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,280 against self-styled Islamic State. 519 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,040 ARCHIVE: The United States has confirmed 520 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,680 that it carried out 14 air strikes overnight, with the help... 521 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,480 Britain and America finally joined the fight against the Islamic State, 522 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,760 and found themselves, this time, 523 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,800 on the same side as Iran and Qasem Soleimani. 524 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,160 Isis, which was this negative, evil thing - 525 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:50,040 Soleimani now gets the role of being the white knight against it. 526 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,080 Now, to a certain degree, he comes out like an American ally, 527 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,600 but that was strange bedfellows for a pretty narrow period. 528 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,240 The Iraqi Kurds now had an embarrassment of riches, 529 00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:12,240 which put them in an awkward spot. 530 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,960 Because we knew that, ultimately, when the Islamic State was defeated, 531 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,400 there was going to have to be an effort 532 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,920 to get the Shia militia back on a leash, 533 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,720 to get them responding to legitimate Iraqi authorities, 534 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:17,040 not to these Shia militia leaders - 535 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,200 some of whom were also in the parliament - 536 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,240 but are basically on the payroll of Qasem Soleimani. 537 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,360 It took five years and an extraordinary global coalition 538 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,840 to drive the Islamic State from Iraq. 539 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,960 The West may well have Qasem Soleimani to thank for that. 540 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,720 From a figure in the shadows, 541 00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:50,360 Qasem Soleimani has been transformed 542 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,720 into a revolutionary icon in Iran and across the region. 543 00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:00,520 The evolution of Qasem Soleimani from the shadow commander 544 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,080 to the star of Saturday Night Live, if you will, 545 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,160 has been a fascinating one. 546 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:15,200 Clearly he - and one would have to assume - the Supreme Leader 547 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:20,960 have thought it was the time to give him an actual face and a role. 548 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,960 It showed his influence to be enormous 549 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,280 and, of course, you know, when you're in that position - 550 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,320 the victorious general, if you will - 551 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,360 that does amplify very considerably 552 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,400 the influence that you have. 553 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:48,720 In Iran, there are even animated films celebrating Soleimani 554 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:52,680 as the commander of an imagined battle for the Persian Gulf 555 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,120 against America. 556 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,600 Soleimani has become, in a way, 557 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,400 one of the sort of heroes of ancient Iranian mythology. 558 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,160 He's become a modern-day knight in shining armour, 559 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,040 who, by the sheer force of will and his goodness, 560 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,200 has been able to banish all evil. I mean, that's basically what it is. 561 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,400 Qasem Soleimani's real-life victories 562 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,200 have not been confined to Iraq. 563 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,720 The shadow commander was a key player during the long civil war 564 00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:23,320 in neighbouring Syria. 565 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,680 ARCHIVE: There's been further violence in Syria - 566 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,240 the latest clashes between pro-democracy activists 567 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:42,440 and government forces. The protests began six months ago. 568 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,480 CROWD CHANTS 569 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,320 When the trouble started in Syria, 570 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,360 there was one thing we could be certain of - 571 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:57,440 that Iran would not let the Assad government be overthrown. 572 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,680 He was their only ally, the only one they could count on. 573 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,080 Syria, under the Assad family, 574 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,560 has been an ally of Iran for decades. 575 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,640 Bashar al-Assad is part of a minority sect 576 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,960 also linked to Shia Islam. 577 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:21,600 When his regime was on the brink, Qasem Soleimani intervened. 578 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,400 Bashar al-Assad, at various times, was really teetering on his throne. 579 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,520 And, first the Quds Force and some Iranian forces came to the rescue. 580 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,120 Then they brought in Lebanese Hezbollah 581 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,440 in very significant capabilities. 582 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:41,080 They brought in Shia militia from countries that were in that region. 583 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,080 One of those militias was led by Qais Khazali, 584 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,800 the scourge of British troops in the Iraq War. 585 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,880 ARCHIVE: This will be remembered as a crushing victory - 586 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,920 the rebellion against President Assad in Aleppo is over. 587 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,160 I think Soleimani was critical in saving the Assad regime. 588 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,480 It would have been unlikely that the Assad regime 589 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,680 would have gotten the confidence and, in some cases, 590 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,000 the competence to weather those two or three years 591 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,880 where it really looked like it was about to teeter. 592 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,160 Over eight gruelling years, Assad's forces, 593 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,120 backed by Iran and Russia, have held on to power in Syria. 594 00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:50,000 Qasem Soleimani appeared on the streets there 595 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,800 to claim victory. 596 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,520 Qasem Soleimani's strategic master plan 597 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,720 has increased Iranian influence over the Middle East. 598 00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:18,280 In Iraq, the government is dominated by the Shia majority, 599 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,800 with close links to Iran. 600 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,760 In Syria, Iran's ally, Assad, still rules a shattered country. 601 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,680 And in Lebanon, the Shia militia - Hezbollah - is growing in power. 602 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,800 I went to the director of the CIA 603 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,160 and, there, you could see unfolded before you all of the activity 604 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,720 that was going on in the region. 605 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:46,640 As he was the principal architect 606 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:51,000 of the actions that were seeking 607 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,840 to solidify the so-called Shia Crescent, 608 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,640 and trying to establish, for the first time, 609 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,200 a ground line of communications that would link Iran 610 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,920 with Lebanese Hezbollah, 611 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,680 without having to fly everything over. 612 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,840 Soleimani now has his eye on the ultimate target - 613 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,360 America's ally, the Little Satan - Israel. 614 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,480 His strategy is the strategy of Iran. 615 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,920 To build a corridor 616 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,440 which will link between Tehran 617 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,160 and the Syrian beach 618 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,920 on the Mediterranean Sea, via Iraq. 619 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,280 You can bring much more weapon systems 620 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,400 than you can carry in cargo aeroplanes. 621 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:45,600 In addition to it, it will help them to encircle Israel. 622 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,360 Al-Quds is the Arabic name for Jerusalem. 623 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,360 Qasem Soleimani is the commander of the Quds - the Jerusalem Force. 624 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,280 Their aim - the liberation of the Holy City 625 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,080 and the defeat of Israel. 626 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,760 Iranian officials called many times 627 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,640 to wipe Israel out of the map. 628 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,440 Of course, we will not allow it to happen. 629 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,160 Israel faces Qasem Soleimani's proxy forces 630 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,120 to the north and the south. 631 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,320 He's provided weapons to Palestinian militants, 632 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,560 supported them in their long struggle 633 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,920 against the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. 634 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,440 In Lebanon, the Israelis say that Iranian technology 635 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,520 is flowing to Hezbollah, its long-standing ally, 636 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,560 just as it once did to the Shia militias in Iraq. 637 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:01,440 What they tried, lately, to do, is to change the rockets 638 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:06,440 that Hezbollah have, in order to make it much more accurate. 639 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:11,040 We have to pay attention to what's going on in this front, 640 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,640 because Hezbollah has, today, 641 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:19,840 something like 120,000, 150,000 rockets. 642 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:26,120 Now, Qais Khazali, Soleimani's old Iraqi friend, 643 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,720 has turned up on the Lebanese border. 644 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,520 Should Israel fear your group? 645 00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,520 Should they fear Iran? 646 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,480 Should they fear Qasem Soleimani? 647 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,560 The Golan Heights - 648 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,640 Syrian territory occupied by Israel for 50 years. 649 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:47,200 It's a new front line in the north between Israel and Iran. 650 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:54,480 General Nitzan Alon is leading Israel's military operations 651 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,280 against Qasem Soleimani. 652 00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,240 The Quds Force was determined to entrench in Syria. 653 00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:04,680 I think that they understand that if they will build their bases 654 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,280 and their infrastructure in Syria, 655 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,880 no-one could push them back from there. 656 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:20,360 Qasem Soleimani began to probe Israel's defences from Syria. 657 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:25,160 A drone was launched - armed, Israel says, with explosives. 658 00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:10,000 And we took the shot. 659 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,200 ARCHIVE: Israel's Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, 660 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,880 has launched a scathing attack on Iran, 661 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,480 calling it the greatest threat to our world. 662 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,240 ARCHIVE: ..and now their stand-off runs right along Israel's border 663 00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:28,720 with Syria, where Iran... 664 00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:32,080 Iran denies that it sent a drone into our airspace 665 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,160 to threaten our people. 666 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,880 Well, here's a piece of that Iranian drone. 667 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,000 Or what's left of it after we shot it down. 668 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,640 The Israelis attacked the Quds Force base 669 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,600 they say launched the drone. 670 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,560 Since then, according to Israel, 671 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,960 they've carried out dozens of air strikes in Syria 672 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,840 in response to Iranian missile and rocket attacks. 673 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,600 Qasem Soleimani and the Quds Force thought that they can deter Israel 674 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,040 by launching rockets into the Golan Heights. 675 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,160 They tried to launch 32 rockets, 676 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,400 just to the area we are sitting in right now. 677 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,160 We attacked back and we strike 678 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:22,000 most of the Quds Force infrastructure it had. 679 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,960 ARCHIVE: Israel's military says it's started hitting 680 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,560 Iranian targets in Syria... 681 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,600 ARCHIVE: ..says the overnight operation 682 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,040 targeted the elite Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards... 683 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,280 INTERVIEWER: Do you think that Qasem Soleimani has learned his lesson? 684 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,440 I think that he has underestimated Israeli capabilities, 685 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,920 and maybe overestimated his capabilities against Israel. 686 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,000 But I'm not sure that he learned the lesson yet. 687 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,640 INTERVIEWER: Would Israel kill Qasem Soleimani if Israel could? 688 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,880 I can only say, every terrorist - 689 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,760 and, by the way, he is a terrorist, 690 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:08,040 and Quds is on the list of terror organisations - 691 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:14,000 so, every terrorist should remember very vividly 692 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,440 that he might be a target, 693 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,160 and there is no immunity to terrorists. 694 00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:31,680 Today, there's a new reality in the Middle East. 695 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,800 ARCHIVE: It's about the only use they've got, now, 696 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,240 for American Coca-Cola bottles. 697 00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:37,600 ARCHIVE: As the Islamic militants of Isis overwhelm... 698 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,240 President Trump has declared 699 00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:42,000 the fight against the Islamic State has been won. 700 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,760 Roger! Requesting ammo resupply. Over. 701 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,440 He's pulling troops out of Syria and Iraq - 702 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,040 but he's put America's old enemy on notice... 703 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,240 DONALD TRUMP: My administration has acted decisively to confront 704 00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:03,200 the world's leading state sponsor of terror - 705 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,560 the radical regime in Iran. 706 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,000 It is a radical regime. 707 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,320 They do bad, bad things. 708 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,680 ..and Qasem Soleimani is now the face and voice of the enemy. 709 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,440 I see an adversary that is continuing to operate 710 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,000 with relative impunity in the region. 711 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,920 That's an enemy that should be eliminated. 712 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,480 Has Qasem Soleimani ever been on an American kill list? 713 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,760 Well, I obviously can't comment 714 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:40,160 whether Qasem Soleimani has ever been on any kind of target list... 715 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:45,160 ..but, I might note that he certainly never set foot in Iraq, 716 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,280 much less did a selfie with Shia militia in Iraq, 717 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,760 when I was commanding the surge. 718 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,320 So, perhaps, you might have been tempted? 719 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,520 It would have been a wonderful thing had Qasem Soleimani 720 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,040 ended up on the X, as they say. 721 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:21,240 America, you know, we, kind of like dastardly villains to hate, 722 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,640 and he has occupied that space very nicely. 723 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,720 He is the quintessence of global evil. 724 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,280 Not a sparrow falls that Qasem Soleimani 725 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,440 didn't personally shoot it down. 726 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,960 I don't think we should view him as an evil person. 727 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,480 I think we should view him... Just like I believe in my country, 728 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,320 I think Qasem Soleimani believes in his country. 729 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,560 Just as I would propagate, you know, the aims of mine, 730 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:50,920 he would do his. 731 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,120 We can play his game, we can fight him. 732 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,680 But I think if we want peace in the Middle East and the region, 733 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,680 we've got to understand where he's coming from and what he wants, 734 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,520 unless you want to be in a perpetual conflict with Iran. 99754

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