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This film contains strong language,
descriptions of satanic sexual abuse

of children from the start which
viewers may find distressing

We called the police and it was a
bizarre call because I said to the

police operator, "I don't quite know
how to explain this but I've been

"accused of being a satanic
paedophile, and I've been accused

"of abusing my
daughter in this way."

And the police operator said,

"OK, well, the police are
on their way to your house".

Nine years ago, two small
children accused a community

of the worst crimes imaginable.

What did they do to you?

They do sex, they do sex.

They touch each other,
they touch me,

they have plastic willies
and they stick them in our bottoms.

Their allegations went viral online

and were circulated
around the world.

Listen to the children!
Don't tell the children to shut up!

A group of parents were accused

of abusing their nine-year-old
children and their classmates.

The only important
job you have in life

is to protect your child

and to have a potential threat

towards them is
a mum's worst nightmare.

We've recorded audio interviews

with four mums who've never
spoken publicly before.

I think it's such a
relief to finally have

an opportunity to tell our story.

34, take three.

To protect their identities,

actors are lip-synching their words.

You just have this
sickening gut feeling

of just...disgust
that someone would think

you would do that to your child.

All the voices, messages and online
videos used in this film are real.

You agree on it, yeah.
Stop killing the babies.

Satan. Stop killing babies.

And we will also meet the conspiracy
theorists who pushed the lie.

If you wouldn't believe two children

when they tell
you something like this,

who would you believe?

We are here crying for help,

there are children
screaming to be heard.

If you don't hear
those children's plea...

Kill the baby. Kill the baby.
Kill the baby.

The picture from the day
before was of Rosie

walking on that pathway to school
over Hampstead Heath in the snow.

And I had stopped
and I had taken a picture of her,

and now when I look at that picture,

it's like the last final photo
of normal primary school life

for her and us,

and then it all changed.

Hello, come in.

How you doing?
I'm good thank you.

Thank you very much.
How have you been?

Um I'm not too bad,
I'm just recovering from the flu,

like lots of people
in the country.

Come on through, would you
like a cup of tea? Or a coffee?

Love a cup of tea.

So what did happen on
the 5th February 2015?

I'm at work and
an email came in from the school.

It just kind of
said there'd been some,

some allegations made,
and the school had dealt with it,

the police had dealt with it,
and it was puzzling.

And then up popped on my screen
something truly bizarre.

And I said, out loud,

about four or five times
in a row, "Oh, my God".

In 2015 a primary school
in Hampstead

was at the centre of
an internet storm.

I started to google to find out
what the email was referring to,

and then I saw the
links to the video,

and it was two children,

Abigail and Joseph that had been
pupils at my daughter's school,

and they were describing all
of this like horrific sex abuse.

What did they do to you?

They do sex, they do sex.

They touch each other,

they have plastic willies
and they stick them in our bottoms.

Who does?
Who sticks it in your bottom?

Social services, everybody.

All of them. Who? Who? Who?
Everybody.

In a series of videos,
an eight year old boy

and his nine-year-old sister
made allegations

of abuse against their father,

teachers and parents
of their classmates.

The first reaction
was complete shock.

You can't believe that a child
is saying those things.

The videos had been made whilst

the children were on holiday
with their mother,

Ella Draper, and her new boyfriend,
Abraham Christie.

Here's a big church in Hampstead,

that's where go all
together and they do sex.

It was just so shocking to take in.

What they were saying was that

I was coming into
school on a Wednesday

and abusing my daughter
and other children.

What the fuck is going on?
What the fuck?

What the fuck?

What's going on?

And that was kind of the first day.

All of a sudden they
mentioned my daughter's name,

and then all of a sudden
they mentioned my name,

and they said that I'd
been abusing my daughter,

myself and my husband.

I do remember just
really thinking,

"Oh, my God, Oh, my God,

"we've been accused
of being paedophiles.

"This is just, you know,
this is bad."

In addition to the
allegations of paedophilia,

Abigail and Joseph
claimed in the videos that

the entire school community,
led by their father,

was involved in
satanic ritual abuse.

What happens in the church?

We killed the baby and eat it,
and we dance with the skulls.

You what? We dance with
the skulls in a church.

What skulls?

The skulls of the baby.

So it was one thing
to be labelled a paedophile

and then a whole other
layer to be labelled

a satanic paedophile,

which conjured up all this
dark imagery of witchcraft.

I couldn't understand how anybody
could possibly believe it,

but so many are sharing it.
It was very disturbing.

The children's mother,

Ella Draper,
lived an alternative lifestyle.

Hi, girls, my name is Ella Draper,

I'm excited to welcome you

and share my experience
of face yoga, about how...

She was a raw food vegan,

taught Bikram yoga,

and for years she had been
locked in a custody dispute

with the children's father.

A witness statement by
Ella Draper from 21st March 2015.

After the children's
videos were uploaded online,

an explosive statement from
Ella appeared on YouTube.

I believe my children
are telling the truth

when they describe
that their father is

the leader of a satanic cult.

I also believe that
many parents abuse

the children at this school
as part of a satanic cult.

"Babies are supplied from
all over the world,

"they're abused,
tortured with rat traps..."

Injected in the neck,

and their necks are cut with
a sharp knife held by them.

"They buy them, inject them
and send by TNT, DHL Service

"or the parents bring them
from other parts of the world."

Ella's new boyfriend was
a man called Abraham Christie,

a convicted criminal with links
to conspiracy theorists.

They want to make
one world religion,

Satanism, and they want
everybody to bow down to that,

so they can take your children,
torture your children,

rape them, kill them,

harvest their organs,

drink their blood
and eat their flesh.

The Hampstead children's
allegations had gone viral

and conspiracy theorists
were making videos

to spread the story worldwide.

They take them from Hampstead.
They call Hampstead...

Currently in the UK, we have people
who are performing satanic rituals,

it's downright murder of children.

Lawyers, solicitors,
doctors, social workers.

These people are involved in
these satanic paedophile cults,

existing in the UK.

Abigail and Joseph
were seen as proof

of what they had
been saying for years,

that the world is controlled by
baby eating satanic paedophiles.

They say it's a hoax.

If I was to fucking create a hoax...

In countless online videos,

the conspiracy theorists
fixated on rescuing

the children of Hampstead
from their paedophile parents.

We were just sitting there at home
watching this story explode

on the worldwide web, it was,
it was global,

it was massive,

everybody seemed to be
discussing this extraordinary story

and wondering who were
these child abusers?

The police conducted interviews
and they searched the school,

after finding no evidence
of satanic ritual abuse,

they closed the case,
an outcome which Ella disputed.

I'm very disappointed that
the police have failed

to do any
investigation into the rapes

and sodomy by their dad,
teachers and head teachers.

Instead the children
were taken into care.

My children were kidnapped

and forced into foster
care against my wishes.

I seek the urgent
return of my children.

And then a list of
the abusers appears online,

and it's our names,
it's our kids' names,

it's their addresses,
telephone numbers,

everything is out there.

And we all know that is
the playdate list that,

you know,
is generated in every school.

I thought here we've got
these extreme accusations

and here we've got
all our details,

and so then, at that point,

the penny dropped,
and it felt really serious.

I remember sitting
on the bedroom floor,

leaning against the bed,
talking to my husband

and just saying,

"This isn't gonna go away.
This isn't gonna go away."

So before all of this happened,

what did you think of Ella Draper,
the mother of the two children?

She was a bit odd,
she probably wasn't somebody

that I would naturally
have an affinity with.

It was just something about her.

I could not get my head around

the fact that it was another mother
that had made these allegations.

It was...unbelievable and
incomprehensible to me.

Ella Draper had arrived with her two
small children a few years earlier

and had recently learned
that the school community

had raised concerns
about her parenting.

There were 175 people that
Ella had implicated,

how could another mother do
that to 70 other families?

I just snapped,

so I picked up my phone
and I phoned Ella,

and I screamed at her,

"Get my fucking daughter's name
off the internet now."

And she was like,
"What? What? I'm sorry.

"I didn't put your
daughter's name up, the police did."

I said, "Why are you fucking lying?

"Get my fucking daughter's name
off the internet now."

but by this time my husband,
Pete, must've heard me screaming

and ran in and took the
phone off me and hung up.

I got a phone call from
Alice and she said,

"Sarah, you have to call her."

And I said, "Who?" and she said,
"Ella, you have to call her."

And I say, "Sure, I will phone her".

She answered the phone
and she went like,

"Hey, Sarah, how are you?"
in this, like, nonchalant way,

like nothing happened,

and I say to her,

"Can you please stop the bullshit?

"Why you did this?"

That's what I said.

She knew exactly what
I'm talking about.

And she said,

"It's not me, it's
Sabine, this blogger."

I must say I'm very,
very tempted to respond

to everything I've heard so far,

which was shocking in terms of

the commission as far as I'm
concerned, because we are here...

After her children
were taken into care,

Ella appointed Sabine McNeill,

an unqualified legal adviser,
to help with her case.

And I am speaking on behalf

of 1,000 children
taken a month in the UK.

A trained computer scientist,

Sabine had become obsessed

with the idea that social
services were stealing children.

We are here crying for help.

There are children
screaming to be heard!

If you don't hear those
children scream, who will?

This woman in her 70s
was a stranger to the mums

but would become the key architect
in the nightmare ahead of them.

But knowing what I know
and not to act on it

would be against my conscience.

These people don't seem
to have a conscience,

that's what's happening,
that's what we are up against.

What did you, in those early days,

come to understand about this
figure of Sabine McNeill?

I really can't say what
I want to say, Emily.

Why?

I find it really difficult to find

a polite term in which
to reference Sabine McNeill.

I will never get my head around

how this woman...became so
obsessed with our children.

When she came across Ella,

it was kind of gold dust to her.

I think it completely sort
of suited their narrative.

The children were crying
out about this sexual abuse,

and the children
weren't being believed.

Ella provided Sabine with
the school class lists,

which she turned into
an elaborate document,

adding sexual preferences
for each child

and sharing it with her
followers worldwide.

Initially our list
of names came up online,

and then a few days later,

someone had taken a lot of time

to highlight my daughter in red,

which was quite concerning,

as she had been...

..pinpointed out...

..as being one of the
children that liked having sex.

It was an explosion of my world.

These kids like to have sex

in the list of children there.

And then the second section,

these kids needed to be drugged
in order to have sex, basically.

And I've seen my
daughter name there,

and I remember it was like....

I never felt like that before.

PHONE RINGS

Hello?

There were a number
of phone calls, nasty language,

you know, "You're doing this,
you're doing that.

"You're a satanist,
you're fucking and killing babies."

You know, "You're evil,"

you know, but I found the calls
where they said little more scary.

I got an email from someone
that said that they liked

my daughter's profile on the website
where she's highlighted in red,

and that they would like
me to bring my daughter

and meet up with them.

So I was getting
emails from paedophiles

believing what they'd
heard about my daughter.

I literally ran to the bathroom
and threw up everywhere.

I think the lowest point for me

was when my daughter's photo
was taken from my Google account.

And I blame myself so much,

because I'd totally forgot
that that account even existed.

And the realisation that
they know what she looks like.

And my world came crashing down

because I had nothing
left to cling onto,

at that point...

..because I felt all my
tools had been removed from me now

from completely keeping her safe.

They need children.

They need children
to perpetuate their cult.

The abuser, who satanically,

ritually abuse the children

and killed and ate babies
and drunk blood.

The police had issued
me with a panic alarm,

and we had been advised
that we should alter our

routes to school, and we deeply
feared that having been alleged

to have been paedophiles that
we would have paedophile hunters

that would come after us.

Every morning I used
to open my front door

and expect to see paedophile
sprayed across the front in red.

They're like organising
in front of your eyes,

plans of action
to save our kids from us.

They wanna kidnap them.

There was a man that said
he was a van driver

and that he has our details,

he knows where the kids are,

and he could drive up now
and come and save them.

These sort of things I'm reading,

and I'm not reading it going,

"Oh, it's OK, they don't know
where I live," because they do.

"It's OK, they don't know what
school my child's going to,"

because they do.

And it scared the shit out of me,
it was like...

"Shit, like, if I'm
walking out here with my kids,

"are they gonna try
and drag my kid off me?"

The advice from the
police and from the school

was not to look at this content.

There seemed to be this
feeling that it would blow over,

but it didn't feel like that,

it felt that this
was something bigger.

It felt like it was something
organised, targeting us.

In April 2015,

conspiracy theorists
assembled at the High Court,

where Ella's appeal for the custody
of her children was being heard,

and their videos began
to appear on YouTube.

Ella gave Sabine the children's
original police interviews,

which she illegally uploaded online

to keep the world
talking about the case.

That one action of
Sabine releasing the tapes,

it just escalated it.

The videos showed the two small
children being interviewed

by child protection police officers.

Hi, before we start I'd just like
to tell you everyone who's here

and tell you where we are,
is that all right?

The children confidently
repeated the allegations.

So who's Dave?
So Papa and who else?

So all, all the staff.

All the staff.

All the parents, you know,
the parents of all the children,

they all know about it.
They enjoy it.

OK.

The death threats just started
coming and continued to come.

A man on a YouTube channel was
talking about setting us on fire,

burning us, and that he
should get a gun

and just come and shoot us.

Like, oh, my God, like,

he's not even trying to hide
what he wants to do to us.

So, this is my children's bedroom.

I couldn't let my children sleep
in the room by themselves.

I was scared that
someone will kidnap them

or do something really bad to them.

So I thought I'd rather
sleep like that on the floor,

knowing I'm next to them
and I can protect them.

Ella's case in the
family courts concluded

and the judge went public
with her damning findings.

Ella and her boyfriend were
behind the children's lies.

The judgment of
notorious High Court judge

Anna Palfrey was fraudulent.

Ella twisted this verdict
to feed into the narrative

of the conspiracy.

The cover-up is blatant

and is itself yet further evidence,

which most disturbingly,

gives insight into just how deeply

the criminally insane sadists

are embedded in
every British authority.

They're having to
cover their cover up now.

And the public are seeing
right through it, transparent.

Conveniently, this justice,

this judge, this demonic whore

has claimed that there's no basis

to these claims at all.
They are lying.

Can you sit on this one for us?

Cos the speaker's
this thing here,

do you see up here? Yeah.

So this one's a speaker,
I think there's another one....

With the children now in care,

they returned to the
brightly lit police room

and retracted the allegations.

So I lied about it, right?
Cos he made me say it.

So...

There's two things.
So first of all, you see, like,

let me just be clear,
are babies being killed or not?

No.

So they're not. No.

He made me say that.

Who's he? Who made you say that?

Abraham.

Away from Ella and Abraham,

they appeared comfortable
enough to tell the truth.

So the stuff that
happened in the church

and the swimming pool at school,
did any of that really happen?

No, that was all made up.

It was all made up?

He told me to say that,
and I said,

"Why Abraham?
That's not true, though".

But then he said, "Yes,
that is true, so don't lie.

"Say that to the police."

Under the gentle guidance
of the police officers,

they describe the
real abuse they endured.

I heard from a doctor one
of your ears is hurt as well.

Yeah. How did that happen?

It's because I was
slapped really hard.

Who slapped you? Abraham.

When did he do that?

Um...

He slapped me,
he slapped me as hard as he could.

Abraham Christie had
moved into the family home

months before the children's
allegations went online.

These kids were made

to do these videos by
their evil mum and boyfriend.

You must've felt for
those kids when you read about

the torture that they'd undergone.

Heartbroken.

In the days after the judgment,

secret recordings emerged

revealing Abraham's
relentless coercion of the children.

Who killed the babies?

Papa...

Papa hold our hand.

Hold your hand?

We've put our hands... Yeah.

He makes you put your thumb,
he puts your hand...

And he puts his hand on ours,
cuts off the baby's head off.

In the safety of the
police interview room,

Abigail can be seen to
speak candidly about Abraham.

Yeah. Because he's...

I think this is what he does,

he believes in lies, not in truth,

he doesn't believe
in truth, just lies. OK.

When he's holding them to
kill the baby with the knife,

what about the rest of
the people, what do they say?

Kill, kill.
Tell me how they say it.

They say "Kill, kill!" "Kill, kill!"

Say it. "Kill, kill."

Say it how they say it.
THEY CHANT: Kill, kill, kill, kill!

Like that.

I really distinctly
remember being really shocked

that he'd actually
physically abused them

to the level that he did in order
for them to make those videos.

What did they say? Kill the baby,
kill the baby, kill the baby,

kill the baby, kill the baby!

Let's say it together,
let's say it together.

CHANTING: Kill the baby, kill the
baby, kill the baby, kill the baby.

Thank you.

I just remember feeling so sorry

that Abigail and Joseph had
had to go through that.

POLICE: Why has your
mum let this happen?

Why do you think your
mum's let him speak to you.

My mum believes him,

because she believes in
lies too, like Abraham.

And where was she
when he kicked you?

She was just like in
the front of Abraham.

OK, and why do you
think she let him do it?

Did she try and stop it, or?

No, she never done that,
never, ever, ever.

Why? She'll never do that.

Why not?

No, because, well,
it's because she loves him so much.

Yeah.

Even with the
children stating clearly

and repeatedly in the
police interviews

that it was a lie,
Ella stuck to her story.

We appeal to everyone concerned
with such a horrific situation

to start acting to put an end

to these atrocities
happening in our society.

Fearing arrest,

she and Abraham fled the country

and continued to promote
the hoax in exile.

For any normal person,

a High Court judge
putting out the truth of the matter

should've stopped
this in its tracks,

but for these people who came with

the express belief
that this was a conspiracy,

this was a cover-up,
it actually fanned the flames.

In the days after the
High Court judgment,

things escalated.

People who believed the allegations
began arriving in Hampstead.

What are you doing?
Why are you taking pictures?

Well, I'm allowed to.

It's a free world.
Why are you eating babies?

Huh? Why are you eating babies?
Hey? Oh, yeah.

MOCK LAUGHTER

Yeah, laugh. Yeah, laugh,
it's all over the net, isn't it?

It's all over the net.

Yeah.

How did it feel as Elizabeth's mum,

knowing that these people
were all coming to your,

to your area to protest?

Petrifying.

Because if they're
coming to do a protest,

where else are they coming?

Whose houses are they coming to?

Petrifying.

Because it's not in your little
Alice in Wonderland world now,

where it's all make believe
on the internet.

It's real, it's on your doorstep.

These people are here.

Here's the church, where the
vicar lives, well, the paedo.

If they don't allow
the general populace

to express themselves
via legitimate channels,

the people will take to the streets.

Hello, internet.

For the past week,
I've avoided clicking on this story

as I've seen it while
scrolling through my Facebook feed.

What is going on?
Why, why is this happening?

Furthermore,
why aren't we kicking down

the doors to the schools,
the churches?

Days after the High Court judge
claimed anyone who pushed

the hoax was evil or foolish,

the conspiracy theorists
reacted furiously.

SHE SHOUTS

Who cut off children's
and babies' heads!

Fuck them and murder 'em
and you want me to calm down?!

No, I won't calm down!

There were a group of
20 to 30 people who,

every Sunday morning,

would come and stand
outside the church

and hurl abuse at the parishioners.

Listen to the children.

Don't tell the children to shut up!

Listen to the children!
HampsteadChristChurch.com!

HampsteadChristChurch.com!

Have you heard about that satanic...
NO! ..using your church?

You're involved in it, aren't ya?

They're kids, mate? Have you heard?

You agree on it, yeah?
Stop killing the babies.

Satan. Stop killing babies! Yeah.

She, she got a smile on her face.
Stop killing babies!

She's got a smile on her face.

You like it, you like having
sex with little children, do you?

We don't want
satanists on this planet. No.

The conspiracy theorists' online
videos became more threatening.

You see this is, this is
what everybody is missing

is a little bit
of fucking muscle, OK?

You can't put yourself out there

without a little bit of
fucking muscle behind you.

I would like to remind
everyone that all the children

from the so called
"special families",

all the teachers

and a lot of the parents have devil
tattoos on their private parts.

So in the initial allegations,
it was said that all members

of the cult had genital tattoos.

And this became quite an exciting
topic for a number of these people.

The children's description
of your distinguishing marks

on your pudenda...

If its false, then come
forward and be checked by the...

Anybody would do it.

..by the doctors, no?

Anybody would do that,
particularly if they were innocent.

And there was lots of comments
about lynch mobs coming to find us

and check us out.

It felt like the sort of,

the modern world
and the internet meets

the sort of medieval witch hunt.

The police had been
struggling to find

a charge that they could use.

They pretty much admitted that

it was beyond their knowledge

and that the law didn't
really exist to keep up

with internet crimes of this nature.

They were out of their depth.

It was very clear
really early on

that the police thought
this was gonna go away,

so they weren't really interested.

So, what option does that leave you?

You're on your own.

And this left us so low about,

"Well, you know
what...what do we do?"

The police kept telling us
that we would never get

the CPS to back
a charge of harassment,

and we just felt that
that was unacceptable.

I think it was at that
point that we realised

that we needed to continue to fight.

HampsteadChristChurch.com!

I'm not a victim, I never have been

and the way to fight
back is to be online,

and you need to be in their world
and down their rabbit hole.

Alice went undercover online,

creating numerous alter egos

and spending hours a day

infiltrating
conspiracy theory groups.

You need to start learning
to think how they think.

I set up accounts to watch them,

have accounts where
they're my friends.

She joined forces with a group
of people questioning the hoax,

together they started a blog
dedicated to exposing the lies.

There was another group
that were fighting back.

They were really standing up

for everyone that had
been alleged to be abusers.

In the depths of depression,
I felt there was some hope.

This is just one of the
files which is an example of

the level of harassment
that we were receiving

and screenshots that
that I printed out.

The mums believed 18 separate
laws had been broken,

but the authorities informed them
there was no public interest

in prosecuting their case.

My goal was to get as much on
all of these people as possible

and get as much evidence
and let the other parents know

what's going on.

By day, the mums were
working, but by night,

fuelled by the information
fed to them by Alice

and her online group,

they became their own
crack team of detectives,

mapping the conspiracy
network pushing the lies.

There were people that were
prolific in what was happening,

what was coming onto the internet,

what was being organised.

And I guess it was a case of
being able to collect the evidence

and prove to the police that
this was an organised campaign

and beg them to
do something about it.

I mean, we were drowning in
material.

The stories we hear from
David Icke and Alex Jones

have to do with human
sacrifice and child rape.

I first became aware of
Rupert Wilson Quaintance

by his own videos
that he was posting.

Why aren't we kicking down
the doors to the schools,

the churches?
If nobody else wants to do it,

I'll go do it.
I'll go over there myself,

give me a team of people, anybody,

let's just ride over
to Hampstead and kick down doors

and get some blood samples

and try to find out if what
these kids are saying is true.

There he is on his videos
saying he's going to

come to the UK,

kick down our doors
and take blood samples from us.

So, scary? Yeah.

Worrying? Yeah.

I've seen these British dudes
try to fuckin' arrest people,

I'll fuckin' box their fucking ears.

I'm small, but I'm scrappy,
and I don't go down easy.

You can't fuck with me.
You can't fuck with me!

In 2016, Rupert created
a fundraising page

for his trip to London
to investigate the cult.

He claimed to have
raised thousands of dollars.

I like it, the way
it's coming in to you, 20 bucks,

100 bucks, 50 bucks,
every person that invests in that,

they're investing in the children.

In my opinion,
you don't need $2,000.

It wasn't just outlandish videos
Rupert was creating in 2016.

He detailed exactly how
he was going to confront

the people in the story.

I was preparing for him to come,

so I was putting
dumbbells in my bag to,

to make it heavier.

If I seen him outside
school being a threat,

I will act.

What do you mean you will act?

I will take him down.

I've already started
planning everything,

I've started talking to people about
where certain stuff will be stashed

and what I'm getting
rid of and all that.

Rupert's videos were
becoming more intimidating.

If you stick your head
above the parapet and say,

"I'm gonna help,"
they will come after you.

But what are they gonna do?
What are they gonna do?

What are they gonna do though?

If they don't have guns,

they're gonna have
a hard fucking time arresting me.

Furthermore, why aren't
we kicking down the doors

to the schools, the churches?

If nobody else wants to do it,
I'll go do it,

I'll go over there myself.
Give me a team of people, anybody.

18 months after
the videos were release,

Rupert Wilson Quaintance,

an American living more
than 3,000 miles away,

claimed to have raised
thousands of dollars to investigate

the satanic cult operating
out of the primary school.

He is raising money to get
here to kick our doors down

and take our kids' blood,

to see if we were
drugging our children.

So he became quickly a threat.

So he became quickly a friend.

In September 2016, Rupert boarded
a plane and arrived in London.

As he became my
friend on social media,

I was able to watch every
single thing he did,

the minute he landed in the UK.

Rupert arrived at the
gates of the primary school

on the first day of term,

claiming to have a
knife in his pocket.

Not a faceless,
anonymous internet warrior,

but a real person
who's gotten on a plane

for the sole purpose
of coming to investigate

whether we're satanically
sexually abusing our children.

But then the next video
is him standing in front of

the primary school, and he's there.

Are we dealing with
our worst nightmare?

Are we finally going
to have to deal with

the person that is crazy
enough to come and be violent?

What's your thinking at this point?

I'm gonna fucking nail you.

That's it.

That is it.

You wanna come to my house,
kick my door down, take my blood?

Good luck with that,

but first of all,
I need to know where you are

cos you are getting arrested,

cos this is not a game,
this is my life.

Alice and her online
group tracked Rupert down

to an address in South London,

which they sent to the police,
and he was arrested.

So this is September that
you were arrested, I think.

The 13th.

And one of the...

..one of the things that scared me
was because of these children

had said police
were involved in this,

when I was handcuffed,

that terrified me to death.

I didn't know where
they were taking me,

and I didn't know who they were.

You said that what
you were gonna do was

kick down doors and take blood.

Yeah.
HE LAUGHS

That's what I said,
it's not what I...

I didn't mean that literally.

Like I said, I meant have
a forensic investigation

and be serious about it.

That's what I should've said.

VIDEO: Well, as we've all heard...

You came over to the UK to come
and find out about this thing,

and I guess I'm just
trying to understand

what your motivation
is to have done that?

I wanted to verify that
this was a physical,

actual place with my own eyes.

That is it.

What would that have proved to you?

What do you mean?

Why did you want to find out
if it was a real place?

Well, why does anybody go see
the Leaning Tower of Pisa?

So it was a tourist destination?

Yeah! Yeah, totally,
that's where this went down,

I mean, this is like...

It's demented, I mean, it's weird,

but, you know,
it's not like going to Graceland

and learning how Elvis lived, but...

Because you set yourself up as
an investigative journalist,

so I'm just interested
in the kind of journalism,

but, actually,
it sounds like it's tourism.

That's a hell of an accusation.

What are you doing here?

You're all the way over here
doing the same thing I did,

only you're doing it in the
safety and comfort of a place

that doesn't lock you up
for speaking your mind.

Yeah, I don't think you should...
That's not nice.

VIDEO: Coming forward,
telling their story.

Based on the mountains
of evidence gathered by the mums,

Rupert was found
guilty of harassment,

and he was sentenced
to nine months in prison.

How was prison?

It's prison.

It's terrifying.

Some of the things you hear,

I mean, have you ever heard
a man screaming in terror

into an echoey
Victorian prison wing?

But the first thing I thought
when, you know,

when the door slammed shut is like,
"Those people were doing that shit."

VIDEO: These children
were having problems

and the mother asked
them what the problem was,

and when they told her
what the problem was...

I've met the mums who were
the victims in your case,

and they're just like normal people,
they're not...

They seemed like that to me as well.

Completely.

All the ones that I saw in court,
yeah, I felt bad about it when...

..when they were saying
the things that they said,

yeah, of course I felt bad about it.

But I don't know them.

There was never...

How can you say I'm targeting
you if I don't use your name?

You're volunteering yourself
to feel frightened.

The most embarrassing and awful
thing for me in all of this

would've been to
be completely ignored,

and that's exactly
what they should've done.

It was just relentless, you know,

it was just firefighting
the whole time,

and it's a bit like
the adrenaline keeps you going,

you're getting very
little sleep for years,

and sometimes just having
a couple of hours kip on the sofa.

Probably looking at
too much, if I'm honest,

than that was healthy for me,
really.

Well, I went from being
really, really sociable

to not engaging
and only talking about this.

That was as far...

f you weren't engaging with me
with what was going on with this,

I just wouldn't bother.

I'm quite obsessive.

Obsessed with just stopping it.

Was it ever an option for
you to close the computer

and walk away and
not look at it, or?

No.

No. And people may question that,

people may feel that that, you know,

would've been the thing to do,

but there was a risk,
there was a palpable risk...

..and the only way that we
could keep on top of that risk

was to keep looking
and to keep watching the internet

to see what people were saying,

because if we weren't
watching, nobody else was.

VIDEO: So, guys, we're really happy
to have you, Ella and Abraham,

thanks for joining us,

and to start can you tell us all how
you're doing and what's going on?

ELLA: We're fine,
we're fighting for the children.

ABRAHAM: And we're learning
new information every day.

Abraham and Ella,
living in hiding in Spain,

continued to post
online about the case

and promoted their campaign
to regain custody of the children.

ABRAHAM: And this is why
Sabine has so much clout,

so I am concerned because she shines
a light on the child snatching,

on the institutionalised
child snatching.

That's right.

Because they need children,

they need children to
maintain the...to continue,

to perpetuate their cult.

The CPS had decided
not to prosecute Sabine,

even though she was continuing to
push the hoax in her online videos.

I mean, let's face it,
if they were ever so innocent,

they wouldn't have to do
what they are doing, right?

No. This is what I'm saying,

everything they're doing
is giving us more evidence.

Well, and, in my view,
the cover up is...

..is sort of evidence as well,

every effective action of cover up,

it corroborates the original
crimes! That's what I'm saying...

Sabine was using
her platform in the EU

and through multiple websites

to push herself as
a respectable figure.

Sabine McNeil has no empathy

or...any kind of emotion...

..to anyone but herself.

She is a miserable adult
that live in a fantasy land.

She thought that
Hampstead families

will be too scared
to go against her.

She actually thought
we'd be too scared.

But I knew the only way
to stop it is to stop her.

Never, ever underestimate
the other side.

The mums were tracking
Sabine's every move.

Using the victims right to review,

they demanded the
CPS reopen their case

and the decision was
made to prosecute.

PHONE: So I've got a
friend request from Sabine,

so I'm in her Facebook now.

Oh, well done. She added me, this
is the joys about nut jobs, right?

And the first thing
I did this morning

was wake up and go,
"Oh, I've got a new friend."

Right. And she is blogging
the Hampstead shit, like, like...

This is Sabine?

Yeah, like nobodies business. Yeah.

Sabine continued
to release provocative videos.

We should find good
guys in the police

who would be willing
to go over and "kidnap",

in quotes, the children,
back to the...

..back again out of
the hands of the bad guys.

Why is it you felt so compelled
to act on behalf of those children?

It must've been a
difficult experience to...

Emily, when you, when you...

..when somebody cries for help

and is nearly sinking,
then you give them...

You try to get them out of
wherever they're in, don't you?

Can you describe what
satanic ritual abuse is

for someone that doesn't
understand that term?

Pfft, I can only go...or I can...

..by what the children described,

both together and
independently of each other,

and that, to me,
was great validation.

I mean just crimes against children,

abuse, sexual abuse,

and the big thing about
the Hampstead children

is that for the first time,

there were children who reported.

Until...until then, it had
only been adult survivors.

When I came into the case,
which was in 2018,

this had already been going
on for three or four years,

and so I wasn't as
immersed in the...

..the day to day horror
of it as the mothers.

They'd sort of gone
down this rabbit hole

and were trying
to claw their way out.

Did that make them quite an unusual
set of victims to work with?

In a way, you didn't really
want to call them victims,

although they were,
they were...they were tough,

they were warriors
is the word I've used.

Videos were being uploaded where
Sabine was cementing her plans

to keep pushing the hoax.

You have to decide,
moment by moment,

is this the moment to walk away
or is this the moment to stand?

Good point, good point.

You are really, really,
really, really wise, Angie.

Well, that means
reopening my blogs again.

In 2016, a judge looking
into the Hampstead case

handed Sabine a restraining order.

This was a stalking case.

So unusual.

The judge was so
appalled by her behaviour

and the behaviour of others,

that he imposed a restraining order.

Effectively, "Don't do this,

"and if you do it,

"you stand a very good
chance of going to jail."

Within seven to ten days,

Sabine McNeil had breached it.

She lived this case,
she just wouldn't stop.

SHE SHOUTS

Please don't shout.

If you interrupt me,
I need to shout, OK?

That's right.

After multiple arrests

and breaches of her
restraining order against the mums,

Sabine McNeil was convicted

and named by the judge
as the UK's worst troll.

I think the long prison
sentence was definitely

a big message sent to these people.

How did that feel
when she got that?

She fucking deserved it.

This was a huge sentence
for someone of her age,

with her background,

on an offence of stalking,

but this had to be dealt with

as severely as some of the
worst sorts of physical abuse,

because emotional abuse of
those mums was horrendous.

It was quite something
to actually hear

the words that she'd
been found guilty.

It was an immense landmark,

because it took...

It took a lot...

..of hard work...

..and emotion,
and effort and fighting

to even get her to that
point of being in court.

So that was a really
powerful moment.

You OK? Mm-hm.

We can stop. No.

It's taken eight years.

To talk, or to get upset, or...?

Yeah, I suppose to get upset,
you know.

I don't...I think,
you know, I just...

I just get on with it.

I've always just got on with it.

I think it's probably quite
cathartic to sort of let it go.

In a landmark conviction on the
strength of the mum's evidence,

Sabine was sentenced to nine years
in prison, of which she served four.

Do you accept the verdict
that was given to you?

I didn't accept any of the charges.

I didn't accept the verdict.

I didn't...I cannot accept the
verdict, I...

And if, if no...

All I can do is suffer.

Suffer it, like Jesus Christ did.

Four of the 175 named abusers

acted as the victims of
being harassed by my campaign,

even though I never, never, ever
contacted anybody personally.

If...and I don't know who did,
did I?

I just...published what I published.

And I never even....

So you don't even
take any responsibility

for them having been harassed?

Ha. For the four mothers?

Not exactly without their
innocence being established.

Wouldn't that be nice if somebody

had first of all checked whether
the accusations of the children,

whether they
had...wouldn't that be nice

if that had been
taken seriously first?

In terms of my mental health,

I think there's some
deep harm there.

To be exposed to that level of evil,

quite frankly, relentlessly,

I certainly feel I've
been affected by that.

It's taken some years to get
a bit of peace back into my life.

It's affected my belief
in goodness in the world.

And then I think now I'm
a bit of a recluse, to be honest.

From who I was the day
before all this happened

to who I was the
day that this happened

are two completely different people.

I've never gone back
to who I was before this.

As a married couple,

I was not sleeping in our bedroom,

I was sleeping on the kids floor.

So you kind of
neglected your marriage?

Yeah, in a way yes,
I did, at a massive cost.

If you look backwards, you can see
how it was affecting me, in a way.

Tell me. Cos he was not
relevant any more as well.

So what impact has this
had on your life, this case?

You wake up and you realise
you're not yourself anymore.

So the four mothers at the centre,
who brought the charges against you,

they were named as abusers
and their children were named,

and their children were
named as having liked sex

and been part of sex acts,

as being part of a cult
on a list that you published.

And they were contacted themselves
by paedophiles

who wanted to meet them,
they were sent photos of guns,

people would knock on their
door to try and find them.

I'm sorry I can't,
I can't cope with that.

I can't, I can't.

Tell me why can't
you cope with that?

Because they had to live with that,
the consequences of that.

Their children's lives
were changed forever

by the publishing of their
details and their materials.

I think their lives
were changed forever

through their abuse beforehand.

But they aren't child abusers,
these mums, they're loving mums.

Oh, they're not? They are.
Oh, yes. What makes you think that?

I've spent some time,
I've spent a lot of time with them,

getting to know them and
hearing their stories. Have you?

Yes. I see.

What, how do you know
that they're child abusers?

How have you,
how have you established that?

No, I have not, I have not.

But you just said
to me they are child abusers.

Well, they were named,
that was all, but not by me.

No, by two children who'd
been tortured themselves

into making these allegations by
a man called Abraham Christie,

who, in the 1990s
abused other children

into making allegations
against their own father.

The children themselves said
that this never happened,

the children at the centre.
I-I'm sorry Emily, I'm sorry Emily.

Why are you sorry?

I can't cope with that,
I cannot cope with that.

I hurt. I hurt, hurt, hurt deeply.

I think there's a lot of hurt
in this story. It's a very sad...

That's...that's exactly right.

In 2022,
through posts on social media,

Abraham Christie's
dark past was revealed.

In a previous
relationship in the '90s,

Abraham physically
abused three small children

into alleging their
own father was a paedophile.

I've spoken to Abraham
Christie's former stepfamily,

and they've told me that
this has happened before,

and it happened exactly the
same as with Abigail and Joseph.

He's a child abuser
and he should be bloody jailed.

He really should be.

It is just unforgiveable
that he hasn't been dealt with.

It's very clear from everything
I've read and understood,

that Abraham Christie's
just a monster.

I think he likes to control
the women and the children,

the more vulnerable
people that come into his life.

And we all just became
collateral damage.

I think when
Abraham and Sabine ended up

sort of coming together,
it was the perfect storm.

Do you worry about the
world more than you did then?

Like are you worried about...
It petrifies me, petrifies me.

The internet has become
a brainwashed world.

It's not healthy in
any shape or form,

it really isn't.

I don't think it's gonna
bring any good to our kids.

I think this story has
bigger ramifications about,

about the truth,
about whether truth matters.

Well, we know, we know...

..know that it's a
very individual...

..experience, and.

For some people truth is a,
like an objective thing?

So I'm interested in your...

No, what's true for me
may not be true for you.

That's why it's an
individual experience.

Gustav Young. Carl Gustav Young was
asked whether he believes in God,

he said he doesn't believe,
he knows.

That's what the truth is.

That's interesting for me,
go to the very heart of

what's so intriguing about
this case, I think, is that,

is that very question,
it's about believing and knowing.

Yeah. And it's a very powerful
thing to believe something is true.

Yeah, we clearly have...emotions

and the emotional
need to believe as well.

I mean, the people wouldn't believe

in all of these cult things if they,

if they didn't have that same need
as others who believe in goodness.

It's downright murder of children,

sexual, physical,
emotional abuse of children,

but this all stems
from a paedophile.

What does it say
about us as a society

that truth doesn't seem to matter?

I find that really terrifying.

And you're in these conspiracy
theory groups still,

under this assumed identity?

Yeah.

And we're all friends.

All of us.

Can you understand why that's
a strange concept for someone?

No!

No.

No, because when
you've watched them for five years

and seen how persistent,

how fucking persistent
these people are,

how they're not going away,

how they're mentally unhinged

and how they are
obsessed with the story

and are obsessed
with protecting your child

and saving your child,

no.

There's no shutting a
book on this story.

So actually Sabine going to prison

wasn't the happy
ending to this story?

Not for me, no.

So me shutting those
accounts down would be stupid,

because you're dealing with people
that won't let it go.

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