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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:03:29,333 --> 00:03:32,770 Do you often have such dreams, Brenda? 2 00:03:32,770 --> 00:03:33,604 - Yes. 3 00:03:35,139 --> 00:03:36,774 - I see. 4 00:03:36,774 --> 00:03:39,343 Oh, this is your first time seeing a therapist, 5 00:03:39,343 --> 00:03:40,812 is that correct? 6 00:03:41,646 --> 00:03:43,147 - Yes, it is. 7 00:03:43,147 --> 00:03:45,083 - And why have you sought out my help? 8 00:03:45,083 --> 00:03:46,384 Because of these dreams? 9 00:03:47,485 --> 00:03:48,319 - Partially, 10 00:03:50,788 --> 00:03:52,023 I just, 11 00:03:52,023 --> 00:03:53,491 I feel really confused in my life right now 12 00:03:53,491 --> 00:03:58,396 and I've just, I've been having these dreams more often so. 13 00:03:59,263 --> 00:04:00,431 - You're a police officer? 14 00:04:00,431 --> 00:04:01,399 Yes, 15 00:04:01,399 --> 00:04:03,000 I'm a detective. 16 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,204 - So, you started having these dreams about a month ago? 17 00:04:06,204 --> 00:04:07,405 - Well, the preamble to them 18 00:04:07,405 --> 00:04:09,707 started a few months before that. 19 00:04:09,707 --> 00:04:11,542 Can you tell me about that? 20 00:04:15,413 --> 00:04:18,116 - Well, I started on the force about 10 years ago, 21 00:04:18,116 --> 00:04:20,785 and I had just been promoted to detective. 22 00:04:24,021 --> 00:04:25,690 A woman had been strangled to death in a situation 23 00:04:25,690 --> 00:04:29,827 that immediately suggested eccentric sexual overtones. 24 00:04:29,827 --> 00:04:32,029 And my partner Jimmy Dolan and I, 25 00:04:32,029 --> 00:04:33,431 we had been assigned to the case, 26 00:04:33,431 --> 00:04:34,766 which was a surprise, 27 00:04:34,766 --> 00:04:37,435 because we usually dealt with armed robberies. 28 00:04:37,435 --> 00:04:38,736 - Morning Captain. 29 00:04:38,736 --> 00:04:40,138 - Is it? 30 00:04:40,138 --> 00:04:41,639 - What have we got so far? 31 00:04:41,639 --> 00:04:45,076 - Not very much, death by strangulation. 32 00:04:45,076 --> 00:04:49,647 Full name is Joan Chapman, age 36, divorced, no kids. 33 00:04:49,647 --> 00:04:52,483 Ex lives in Florida, so he's probably not in the picture. 34 00:04:53,851 --> 00:04:55,753 - Yeah, you two are heading up this investigation 35 00:04:55,753 --> 00:04:57,522 with Brenda officially number one. 36 00:04:58,723 --> 00:05:00,258 Jimmy reminded me all the political hassles 37 00:05:00,258 --> 00:05:02,894 and bad press we had last year with that serial rapist case. 38 00:05:02,894 --> 00:05:05,196 So, I figured it'd be a good PR 39 00:05:05,196 --> 00:05:07,598 to have a female lead investigator. 40 00:05:07,598 --> 00:05:09,767 - Oh, thanks for the vote of confidence, sir. 41 00:05:11,169 --> 00:05:13,204 - You may not be happy with why you're in charge, 42 00:05:13,204 --> 00:05:15,006 but downtown is keeping a very close eye 43 00:05:15,006 --> 00:05:17,809 on this case and you. 44 00:05:17,809 --> 00:05:18,810 Door's been kicked open. 45 00:05:18,810 --> 00:05:19,877 Take advantage of it. 46 00:05:20,912 --> 00:05:22,213 I'll check with you later. 47 00:05:24,048 --> 00:05:25,716 - There was more than a little irritation 48 00:05:25,716 --> 00:05:29,954 about my appointment from my fellow officers, 49 00:05:29,954 --> 00:05:31,522 because I was younger than them 50 00:05:32,590 --> 00:05:35,059 and definitely because I was a woman. 51 00:05:36,494 --> 00:05:38,196 Jimmy and I had worked together before, 52 00:05:38,196 --> 00:05:40,631 when we were both police officers. 53 00:05:40,631 --> 00:05:42,533 He had some sort of issue with a female officer, 54 00:05:42,533 --> 00:05:44,135 so I quickly set some boundaries 55 00:05:44,135 --> 00:05:46,270 and never had a second of trouble. 56 00:05:46,270 --> 00:05:48,806 - Leo, we're still in for the ponies tonight? 57 00:05:48,806 --> 00:05:51,642 - I wish, it's our anniversary. 58 00:05:51,642 --> 00:05:52,910 If I go to the racetrack tonight, 59 00:05:52,910 --> 00:05:55,213 I'll have to draw up a separation agreement. 60 00:05:56,380 --> 00:05:57,748 - Brenda, we're finished with the bedroom. 61 00:05:57,748 --> 00:05:58,983 We're almost through the dining room. 62 00:05:58,983 --> 00:06:00,818 We're just gonna go grab some lunch, okay? 63 00:06:00,818 --> 00:06:04,055 So, make sure nobody crosses the tape, okay? 64 00:06:04,055 --> 00:06:06,424 - Okay, it's not my first case. 65 00:06:06,424 --> 00:06:08,593 - Yeah, it's your first one as leader right? 66 00:06:09,627 --> 00:06:11,495 Leo, leave it man, lunch. 67 00:06:17,034 --> 00:06:18,302 - Detective Roberto. 68 00:06:18,302 --> 00:06:19,670 Hey babe, we still on for a drink? 69 00:06:19,670 --> 00:06:20,504 - Oh, hey. 70 00:06:21,906 --> 00:06:23,441 Yeah, more than ever. 71 00:06:23,441 --> 00:06:25,443 But something's breaking, so might be a little bit late. 72 00:06:25,443 --> 00:06:26,811 Okay, no problem. 73 00:06:26,811 --> 00:06:28,512 But I can't wait to tell you. 74 00:06:28,512 --> 00:06:30,214 I just met Mr. Right. 75 00:06:30,214 --> 00:06:31,716 - Again? 76 00:06:31,716 --> 00:06:34,452 How can you be wrong about Mr Right and so very often? 77 00:06:34,452 --> 00:06:36,087 I'll tell you later. 78 00:06:36,087 --> 00:06:38,089 - Okay, I'll talk to you soon. 79 00:06:38,089 --> 00:06:39,123 Bye. 80 00:06:39,123 --> 00:06:40,791 - Your friend Dixie? 81 00:06:40,791 --> 00:06:41,993 - My friend Dixie. 82 00:06:41,993 --> 00:06:43,094 - Fun loving girl. 83 00:06:43,094 --> 00:06:43,961 - Yeah, that she. 84 00:06:45,596 --> 00:06:46,831 Is she your type? 85 00:06:46,831 --> 00:06:47,765 - I don't do crazy. 86 00:06:49,033 --> 00:06:50,568 - Are you still going to the roundup? 87 00:06:50,568 --> 00:06:51,836 - Sometimes. 88 00:06:51,836 --> 00:06:54,739 - All those cougars love a man in uniform. 89 00:06:54,739 --> 00:06:56,674 - This uniform is a cheap suit. 90 00:06:57,808 --> 00:06:59,844 Okay, so tell me about Mr. Right. 91 00:06:59,844 --> 00:07:00,845 Where'd you meet this one? 92 00:07:00,845 --> 00:07:02,246 - On Night Talk. 93 00:07:02,246 --> 00:07:03,481 Night Talk. 94 00:07:03,481 --> 00:07:05,216 Wait, isn't that the sex app? 95 00:07:05,216 --> 00:07:07,051 - Well, it's a chat line. 96 00:07:07,051 --> 00:07:10,755 - It's a chat line where you chat about sex. 97 00:07:10,755 --> 00:07:13,190 - What else are you gonna talk about, the weather? 98 00:07:14,792 --> 00:07:18,429 Look, this is my new Mr. Right. 99 00:07:19,397 --> 00:07:22,300 He's 40, divorced, no kids. 100 00:07:22,300 --> 00:07:24,068 Okay, look, the picture doesn't really do him justice, 101 00:07:24,068 --> 00:07:25,736 but he is very hot. 102 00:07:25,736 --> 00:07:27,705 You should try this app, Brenda. 103 00:07:27,705 --> 00:07:29,407 I don't think a sex app, 104 00:07:29,407 --> 00:07:31,342 is what I need right now, but.. 105 00:07:31,342 --> 00:07:33,110 - Oh, when was the last time you had anything down there 106 00:07:33,110 --> 00:07:34,412 besides your fingers? 107 00:07:35,613 --> 00:07:37,848 - Look, I am really busy. 108 00:07:37,848 --> 00:07:40,017 Okay, just gimme your phone. 109 00:07:40,017 --> 00:07:40,818 - Why? 110 00:07:40,818 --> 00:07:41,652 - Trust me. 111 00:07:46,424 --> 00:07:47,825 Have you ever tried a sex app before? 112 00:07:47,825 --> 00:07:49,560 God, no. 113 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:50,828 - You don't have to say it like that. 114 00:07:50,828 --> 00:07:52,596 It's not strange, or anything, okay? 115 00:07:52,596 --> 00:07:53,831 I mean, you meet some weirdos, 116 00:07:53,831 --> 00:07:56,033 but you can weed them out pretty quickly. 117 00:07:56,033 --> 00:07:59,837 Oh, they have a special on Night Talk. 118 00:07:59,837 --> 00:08:01,405 You gotta try. 119 00:08:01,405 --> 00:08:04,375 - Okay, can we have a normal conversation now? 120 00:08:12,984 --> 00:08:14,819 The city's 22nd murder of the year 121 00:08:14,819 --> 00:08:17,588 has occurred as a 36 year old woman was found 122 00:08:17,588 --> 00:08:20,791 strangled to death in her West End apartment this morning. 123 00:08:20,791 --> 00:08:22,193 Pat Roberts reports. 124 00:08:22,193 --> 00:08:23,027 Ah, give me a break. 125 00:08:23,027 --> 00:08:23,861 I'm off duty. 126 00:08:27,932 --> 00:08:29,900 Is this you alone, 127 00:08:29,900 --> 00:08:32,169 waiting for the phone that never rings? 128 00:08:32,169 --> 00:08:34,305 Well change your life and join the fabulous 129 00:08:34,305 --> 00:08:36,273 Night Talk party line. 130 00:08:36,273 --> 00:08:37,775 Meet the man of your dreams, 131 00:08:37,775 --> 00:08:41,379 or the mysterious stranger of your sexual fantasy. 132 00:08:41,379 --> 00:08:43,748 Go to the Night Talk app on your smartphone 133 00:08:43,748 --> 00:08:44,915 and join up today. 134 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,189 I see that you were divorced. 135 00:08:52,189 --> 00:08:55,826 - Yes, it was short and difficult, 136 00:08:57,261 --> 00:08:59,964 but at least we didn't make it worse by having children so. 137 00:08:59,964 --> 00:09:01,699 - And why was it so difficult? 138 00:09:03,167 --> 00:09:05,403 - He wasn't very confident in sex 139 00:09:05,403 --> 00:09:08,272 and he wanted a strong woman. 140 00:09:09,673 --> 00:09:12,443 It all made sense when I met his mother. 141 00:09:12,443 --> 00:09:13,444 Have you had any serious 142 00:09:13,444 --> 00:09:14,912 relationships since then? 143 00:09:16,047 --> 00:09:16,914 - No, not really. 144 00:09:18,682 --> 00:09:20,718 - Do you wanna find another relationship? 145 00:09:24,789 --> 00:09:25,623 - Yes. 146 00:09:27,758 --> 00:09:28,692 That would be nice. 147 00:10:05,663 --> 00:10:07,998 Dr. Pavich thinks the victim died between 9:00 PM 148 00:10:07,998 --> 00:10:11,769 and 4:00 AM on Thursday the 10th. 149 00:10:11,769 --> 00:10:13,137 These are the two cameras that were running that day. 150 00:10:13,137 --> 00:10:14,472 We've got one in the lobby entrance 151 00:10:14,472 --> 00:10:16,107 and one in the elevator doors. 152 00:10:17,408 --> 00:10:20,978 Here she is leaving for work at 8:00 AM 153 00:10:20,978 --> 00:10:22,646 and coming home at 5:30. 154 00:10:23,981 --> 00:10:25,850 And that's the last we see of her. 155 00:10:25,850 --> 00:10:27,985 So, someone came to see her. 156 00:10:27,985 --> 00:10:29,520 - And that's all we know. 157 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,857 There's no cameras in the hallways outside the apartments. 158 00:10:32,857 --> 00:10:34,358 Any other exits? 159 00:10:34,358 --> 00:10:35,826 - Well, there's a side door, 160 00:10:35,826 --> 00:10:37,461 that goes down to the parking garage, 161 00:10:37,461 --> 00:10:39,463 but there's no cameras. 162 00:10:39,463 --> 00:10:42,433 - Here she is on the seventh, a few days before her murder, 163 00:10:42,433 --> 00:10:44,568 she gets on the elevator with eight other people. 164 00:10:44,568 --> 00:10:46,070 Six guys. 165 00:10:46,070 --> 00:10:48,305 But we have no idea if she's with any of those guys, or not. 166 00:10:49,406 --> 00:10:50,241 - Wait a second. 167 00:10:50,241 --> 00:10:51,542 What about this guy? 168 00:10:51,542 --> 00:10:53,444 Looks like he doesn't want to be seen. 169 00:10:53,444 --> 00:10:55,246 - Yeah, but everybody knows about these cameras 170 00:10:55,246 --> 00:10:57,381 and not everybody likes to be photographed. 171 00:10:58,582 --> 00:11:00,684 Guy's probably married visiting his girlfriend. 172 00:11:01,752 --> 00:11:03,420 - I'll send you guys the video. 173 00:11:03,420 --> 00:11:04,622 Okay. 174 00:11:04,622 --> 00:11:06,123 Start checking with our coworkers. 175 00:11:06,123 --> 00:11:08,926 Find out everything you can about her personal life. 176 00:11:08,926 --> 00:11:11,228 Oh, and check with the Super. 177 00:11:11,228 --> 00:11:13,330 They usually know everything that's going on. 178 00:11:38,756 --> 00:11:39,957 - This is Mr. Foster. 179 00:11:39,957 --> 00:11:41,559 This is the building Super. 180 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,027 I'm gonna be going over the lobby camera recordings 181 00:11:43,027 --> 00:11:44,428 with him this afternoon. 182 00:11:44,428 --> 00:11:46,630 - Mr. Foster, were you acquainted with Joan Chapman? 183 00:11:46,630 --> 00:11:49,533 - Yeah, she was a bit of a princess, 184 00:11:49,533 --> 00:11:51,969 always complaining about one thing, or the other. 185 00:11:53,037 --> 00:11:54,471 - Okay. 186 00:11:54,471 --> 00:11:56,373 Well the hallway and her apartment are now a crime scene. 187 00:11:56,373 --> 00:11:59,643 So, access will be restricted by a 24 hour police presence. 188 00:12:01,145 --> 00:12:02,079 Mr. Foster. 189 00:12:03,581 --> 00:12:06,016 Mr Foster, do you understand? 190 00:12:06,016 --> 00:12:09,420 - Yeah, yeah sure detective. 191 00:12:09,420 --> 00:12:10,721 - That's all for now, sir. 192 00:12:13,457 --> 00:12:14,725 - Papers are all over this 193 00:12:14,725 --> 00:12:15,926 and we're not even sure 194 00:12:15,926 --> 00:12:18,262 there's an actual crime being committed yet. 195 00:12:18,262 --> 00:12:21,865 Could be forced, or consensual, death by misadventure. 196 00:12:21,865 --> 00:12:24,268 Could even wind up in the civil courts, 197 00:12:24,268 --> 00:12:27,037 anyway politicians are really putting the heat on this. 198 00:12:27,037 --> 00:12:30,207 So, the sooner we clear this up, the better. 199 00:12:30,207 --> 00:12:31,041 Okay? 200 00:12:31,041 --> 00:12:32,309 Detective, 201 00:12:32,309 --> 00:12:34,345 here's the victim's credit card statement. 202 00:12:57,534 --> 00:12:59,203 Welcome to Night Talk, 203 00:12:59,203 --> 00:13:01,572 the anonymous phone service that allows you, 204 00:13:01,572 --> 00:13:03,874 to be who you really want to be. 205 00:13:08,912 --> 00:13:10,147 - Oh my God, the woman who was murdered 206 00:13:10,147 --> 00:13:11,181 was on Night Talk? 207 00:13:11,181 --> 00:13:12,683 - Yeah, she was. 208 00:13:12,683 --> 00:13:15,119 I mean, I don't know if she met her attacker on it, 209 00:13:15,119 --> 00:13:18,722 but on it she was a lot. 210 00:13:18,722 --> 00:13:20,658 So, tell me how it works. 211 00:13:20,658 --> 00:13:21,692 - Okay. 212 00:13:21,692 --> 00:13:23,027 I mean, you download the app 213 00:13:23,027 --> 00:13:24,728 and then they send you a user ID number 214 00:13:24,728 --> 00:13:27,364 and you create your own four digit password. 215 00:13:27,364 --> 00:13:29,533 But this is like just voice. 216 00:13:29,533 --> 00:13:31,235 There's like no pictures. 217 00:13:31,235 --> 00:13:33,237 It's completely private and anonymous. 218 00:13:33,237 --> 00:13:34,738 - Right. 219 00:13:34,738 --> 00:13:35,973 - And then when you find someone who's interesting, 220 00:13:35,973 --> 00:13:38,909 then you can exchange emails and phone numbers 221 00:13:38,909 --> 00:13:41,945 and you can chat about sex 222 00:13:41,945 --> 00:13:44,615 and then you can meet and have sex. 223 00:13:46,083 --> 00:13:49,153 - So, I know Night Talk won't give us any information. 224 00:13:49,153 --> 00:13:50,821 So, I've been toying with the idea 225 00:13:50,821 --> 00:13:54,425 of going on it undercover. 226 00:13:54,425 --> 00:13:55,893 - Are you kidding? 227 00:13:55,893 --> 00:13:58,195 - No, look, I could make a profile 228 00:13:58,195 --> 00:13:59,430 that would attract the perp, 229 00:13:59,430 --> 00:14:01,432 I mean the department wouldn't approve, 230 00:14:01,432 --> 00:14:05,035 but I'm thinking about doing it on my own. 231 00:14:05,035 --> 00:14:05,969 You're not kidding? 232 00:14:05,969 --> 00:14:07,071 - No. 233 00:14:07,071 --> 00:14:08,572 - Okay. 234 00:14:08,572 --> 00:14:10,607 Well you're gonna have to go on the kinkier side of the app. 235 00:14:10,607 --> 00:14:11,942 So, you're gonna create a profile 236 00:14:11,942 --> 00:14:13,777 that's like specific to that, right? 237 00:14:13,777 --> 00:14:16,380 So, say you're into dom and sub, 238 00:14:16,380 --> 00:14:20,050 or like whips and chains and we all have secret desires. 239 00:14:20,050 --> 00:14:22,486 I mean, you know, I've tried a few myself. 240 00:14:23,987 --> 00:14:26,724 Have you even taken a tiny little peek at any of yours? 241 00:14:27,624 --> 00:14:28,459 Have you? 242 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:30,794 - Not yet. 243 00:14:36,967 --> 00:14:38,569 Welcome to Night Talk, 244 00:14:38,569 --> 00:14:40,037 the anonymous phone service 245 00:14:40,037 --> 00:14:41,238 that allows you to - You needed 246 00:14:41,238 --> 00:14:42,840 an older woman. 247 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:43,774 Be who you really want to be. 248 00:14:43,774 --> 00:14:44,708 I'm a lady. 249 00:14:44,708 --> 00:14:46,777 Looking for a dominant lady. 250 00:14:46,777 --> 00:14:48,245 It's a hot summer night. 251 00:14:48,245 --> 00:14:49,980 Hi, I'm looking for a busty lady, 252 00:14:49,980 --> 00:14:53,083 Open-minded couple, looking for. 253 00:14:53,083 --> 00:14:55,285 To record your personal profile, 254 00:14:55,285 --> 00:14:56,286 please press one. 255 00:14:56,286 --> 00:14:58,889 - This is user 3444. 256 00:14:58,889 --> 00:15:00,691 My name's Sarah. 257 00:15:00,691 --> 00:15:04,661 By day I am a confident and attractive woman, 258 00:15:04,661 --> 00:15:08,098 and by night I like to be sexually dominated. 259 00:15:09,466 --> 00:15:12,202 With the right person, I might even be into rough sex. 260 00:15:12,202 --> 00:15:13,036 Message me. 261 00:15:15,773 --> 00:15:17,207 To listen to profiles, 262 00:15:17,207 --> 00:15:21,445 from those interested in casual encounters, press one, 263 00:15:21,445 --> 00:15:24,548 fetishes and the wild side, press two. 264 00:15:26,450 --> 00:15:29,119 Hi, this is Freddy Box number 2069. 265 00:15:30,788 --> 00:15:33,690 Can't forget that number hey gals? 266 00:15:33,690 --> 00:15:35,993 Or guys, I'm open-minded. 267 00:15:41,465 --> 00:15:43,333 This is box 2001. 268 00:15:44,301 --> 00:15:45,369 My name is Tom. 269 00:15:46,804 --> 00:15:49,840 I'm a confident man with a powerful sexual persona, 270 00:15:50,707 --> 00:15:54,278 single, mid 30s, attractive, 271 00:15:55,646 --> 00:15:58,649 seeking a woman who has a passionate need for such a man. 272 00:15:59,750 --> 00:16:00,717 Could this be you? 273 00:16:03,654 --> 00:16:06,323 This member is talking live to another member. 274 00:16:06,323 --> 00:16:09,493 Both members have their party line option turned on. 275 00:16:10,794 --> 00:16:13,630 To listen to their conversation, or to join in the fun, 276 00:16:13,630 --> 00:16:14,598 press four. 277 00:16:18,802 --> 00:16:21,238 Are you touching yourself Janet? 278 00:16:21,238 --> 00:16:22,539 Oh God Tom, yes. 279 00:16:25,809 --> 00:16:28,212 Your stories are so sexy. 280 00:16:29,346 --> 00:16:31,915 Okay, so you're on a subway. 281 00:16:31,915 --> 00:16:34,384 I'm sitting alone when I get on 282 00:16:34,384 --> 00:16:38,722 and I sit beside you very closely. 283 00:16:38,722 --> 00:16:41,992 It's a hot day and we're both wearing shorts. 284 00:16:43,427 --> 00:16:46,630 And before you know it, our bare thighs are touching. 285 00:16:46,630 --> 00:16:50,367 Yes, feel the heat of my thighs. 286 00:16:52,202 --> 00:16:54,771 Now, and you come closer, 287 00:16:54,771 --> 00:16:57,107 you feel my cock pressing up against you 288 00:16:58,208 --> 00:17:00,777 and I place my sweater between us. 289 00:17:00,777 --> 00:17:02,913 And then I slipped my fingers inside you. 290 00:17:02,913 --> 00:17:04,348 I open you up. 291 00:17:04,348 --> 00:17:05,682 Oh, Tom. 292 00:17:07,451 --> 00:17:10,220 Oh Christ, my husband's home. 293 00:17:10,220 --> 00:17:13,290 Please call me again, box 2963. 294 00:17:13,290 --> 00:17:14,458 Please, please call me. 295 00:17:18,795 --> 00:17:20,797 - I never understood what appealed to people 296 00:17:20,797 --> 00:17:23,000 about phone sex. 297 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,869 I mean, I always thought it was this situation 298 00:17:25,869 --> 00:17:29,840 where women were paid to talk sexy to horny men. 299 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,008 But this was different. 300 00:17:33,143 --> 00:17:34,144 This was real. 301 00:17:35,646 --> 00:17:38,348 Listening in on other people's passions. 302 00:17:38,348 --> 00:17:43,287 I mean, it was thrilling and very erotic. 303 00:17:46,056 --> 00:17:47,124 - It was genuine. 304 00:17:48,525 --> 00:17:52,329 Good sex doesn't really need love, but it does need honesty. 305 00:18:18,388 --> 00:18:21,024 For the next few days, I had several responses to my ad, 306 00:18:21,024 --> 00:18:23,794 but most of them were not worth responding to. 307 00:18:23,794 --> 00:18:25,262 No one interested in anything 308 00:18:25,262 --> 00:18:27,631 that could lead me to the killer. 309 00:18:27,631 --> 00:18:30,300 I couldn't get this man Tom out of my mind. 310 00:18:33,604 --> 00:18:35,305 This is box 2001. 311 00:18:35,305 --> 00:18:36,306 My name is Tom. 312 00:18:37,708 --> 00:18:40,177 This member is talking live to another member. 313 00:18:40,177 --> 00:18:43,580 To leave a message for this profile, press one. 314 00:18:43,580 --> 00:18:46,116 To listen to the next profile, press two. 315 00:18:49,152 --> 00:18:51,288 - Our paths hadn't crossed again. 316 00:18:51,288 --> 00:18:53,090 And each time I went on the line, 317 00:18:53,090 --> 00:18:55,859 I had to asked myself if my personal interest 318 00:18:55,859 --> 00:18:59,062 in this investigation was taking over my professional one? 319 00:19:05,535 --> 00:19:07,104 - There are no signs of a struggle, 320 00:19:07,104 --> 00:19:09,973 which doesn't mean the victim was compliant. 321 00:19:11,375 --> 00:19:13,877 She may have thought the best way out of this situation 322 00:19:13,877 --> 00:19:17,180 was to just do what the perp wanted. 323 00:19:17,180 --> 00:19:18,682 I have more tests to do, 324 00:19:18,682 --> 00:19:21,251 and I'm not exactly certain that this was an actual rape. 325 00:19:21,251 --> 00:19:22,853 Might have even been consensual. 326 00:19:22,853 --> 00:19:25,589 Are you familiar with EAPX? 327 00:19:25,589 --> 00:19:27,224 - Yeah, the strangulation thing. 328 00:19:28,091 --> 00:19:29,893 - Yes, erotic asphyxiation. 329 00:19:29,893 --> 00:19:31,762 To give it its proper term, 330 00:19:31,762 --> 00:19:34,798 the body is deprived of oxygen deliberately, 331 00:19:34,798 --> 00:19:38,101 at the point of orgasm to heighten the sexual pleasure. 332 00:19:39,569 --> 00:19:41,805 Sort of like having sex at the top of Mount Everest. 333 00:19:41,805 --> 00:19:43,306 Oh, sounds extreme. 334 00:19:43,306 --> 00:19:44,875 - It's dangerous all right. 335 00:19:44,875 --> 00:19:46,376 I still have some more tests to do, 336 00:19:46,376 --> 00:19:49,012 before we can decide if that's what happened here. 337 00:19:49,012 --> 00:19:49,913 I'll let you know. 338 00:19:53,150 --> 00:19:55,919 Dr. Johnson, please report to forensics. 339 00:19:55,919 --> 00:19:57,421 - I can't get over that. 340 00:19:57,421 --> 00:20:00,390 Putting your life in danger just to have a better orgasm. 341 00:20:00,390 --> 00:20:03,493 - Maybe it's the only way she could have an orgasm. 342 00:20:03,493 --> 00:20:05,328 - Have you ever tried it? 343 00:20:05,328 --> 00:20:06,163 - Me? 344 00:20:06,163 --> 00:20:07,364 No. 345 00:20:07,364 --> 00:20:08,565 Wouldn't surprise me if you did. 346 00:20:08,565 --> 00:20:10,567 - What the hell is that supposed to mean? 347 00:20:10,567 --> 00:20:11,768 - Oh, come on. 348 00:20:11,768 --> 00:20:13,503 That trouble you got into a couple years ago. 349 00:20:14,671 --> 00:20:16,673 - Ah, it was just a misunderstanding. 350 00:20:16,673 --> 00:20:18,275 Where are we going? 351 00:20:18,275 --> 00:20:20,544 - Well, I have to go visit my dad. 352 00:20:20,544 --> 00:20:21,978 It's 10 years since my mom's passing, 353 00:20:21,978 --> 00:20:24,281 and I promised I'd meet him at the grave site, 354 00:20:25,415 --> 00:20:26,650 which is right next to my brothers. 355 00:20:26,650 --> 00:20:29,886 So, it's gonna be a tough day on him. 356 00:20:30,987 --> 00:20:32,255 - And you. 357 00:20:32,255 --> 00:20:33,957 All right, catch you get later, buddy, all right? 358 00:20:33,957 --> 00:20:34,791 - Thanks. 359 00:20:38,862 --> 00:20:41,598 Tell me, Brenda, how do you see yourself? 360 00:20:42,766 --> 00:20:46,403 - Well, in middle school I was very shy 361 00:20:46,403 --> 00:20:48,805 and awkward and too skinny. 362 00:20:48,805 --> 00:20:51,742 - Do you see yourself as a shy person now? 363 00:20:51,742 --> 00:20:53,777 - Underneath, yes. 364 00:20:53,777 --> 00:20:55,445 - I'm curious as to why, 365 00:20:55,445 --> 00:20:58,381 if you consider yourself a shy person, 366 00:20:58,381 --> 00:21:00,751 you would put yourself in a profession, 367 00:21:00,751 --> 00:21:05,322 where you have to be a forceful and dominant personality? 368 00:21:05,322 --> 00:21:06,790 - I didn't start out that way. 369 00:21:08,325 --> 00:21:11,228 I was studying art history at college, 370 00:21:11,228 --> 00:21:13,663 and my twin brother, Tony, 371 00:21:13,663 --> 00:21:16,733 had just graduated from the police academy 372 00:21:16,733 --> 00:21:20,470 and he joined the force where my father was a captain. 373 00:21:23,807 --> 00:21:26,243 My father was so proud of him. 374 00:21:26,243 --> 00:21:27,110 I mean, so was I. 375 00:21:30,213 --> 00:21:34,484 But Tony only became a police officer to please my father. 376 00:21:35,385 --> 00:21:38,054 Then he began to hate it 377 00:21:38,054 --> 00:21:39,256 and started drinking 378 00:21:40,724 --> 00:21:45,662 and then one night Tony was found in his cruiser drunk. 379 00:21:46,763 --> 00:21:47,898 He had run a red light killing a mother 380 00:21:47,898 --> 00:21:48,999 and her two children. 381 00:21:49,966 --> 00:21:53,403 My father was so ashamed, 382 00:21:54,771 --> 00:21:59,709 disappointed, angry, and Tony, he felt abandoned. 383 00:22:01,178 --> 00:22:05,682 And later that week, Tony used his own service gun 384 00:22:12,422 --> 00:22:13,757 and he killed himself so, 385 00:22:17,627 --> 00:22:19,629 I mean, my father, he was devastated. 386 00:22:25,202 --> 00:22:26,036 - And you? 387 00:22:28,405 --> 00:22:29,239 - Well, 388 00:22:31,007 --> 00:22:34,277 I dropped out of art college and joined the force. 389 00:22:38,281 --> 00:22:39,749 My mother had died a year before, 390 00:22:39,749 --> 00:22:40,550 and so, 391 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,690 I was really the only person my father had left. 392 00:23:05,842 --> 00:23:07,244 Rest in peace Tony, 393 00:23:08,278 --> 00:23:09,446 I love you very much 394 00:23:14,851 --> 00:23:15,919 and so does pop. 395 00:23:28,665 --> 00:23:31,635 - I am just glad your mother didn't live to see that. 396 00:23:31,635 --> 00:23:33,336 - I understand you're hurting dad, 397 00:23:35,005 --> 00:23:36,273 but so was Tony. 398 00:23:37,274 --> 00:23:38,408 Okay? 399 00:23:38,408 --> 00:23:39,242 I wish you could see that. 400 00:23:41,411 --> 00:23:42,779 - He dishonored the family. 401 00:23:44,147 --> 00:23:45,649 - I don't feel dishonored dad. 402 00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:47,784 Okay? 403 00:23:47,784 --> 00:23:48,618 I feel sad. 404 00:23:50,620 --> 00:23:52,389 I miss my brother very much. 405 00:24:04,801 --> 00:24:06,736 - So, tell me, 406 00:24:08,004 --> 00:24:10,006 how you doing sweetheart? 407 00:24:10,006 --> 00:24:12,642 Getting your first assignment as a lead, huh? 408 00:24:12,642 --> 00:24:13,877 It's pretty exciting. 409 00:24:15,078 --> 00:24:19,115 - That it is, but I'm not naive dad. 410 00:24:19,115 --> 00:24:22,352 I know politics and family connections played a part in it. 411 00:24:25,088 --> 00:24:27,724 - And it hasn't escaped my notice 412 00:24:27,724 --> 00:24:30,727 that someone's having a birthday next week. 413 00:24:30,727 --> 00:24:32,529 - You don't have to buy me presents. 414 00:24:32,529 --> 00:24:34,030 Only if I want to, 415 00:24:34,030 --> 00:24:36,166 and I didn't really buy this. 416 00:24:37,934 --> 00:24:40,570 - Madame Butterfly, mom's favorite. 417 00:24:42,005 --> 00:24:44,541 - I bought it 10 years ago for your mother's birthday. 418 00:24:45,875 --> 00:24:47,444 No, she didn't make it, but.... 419 00:24:48,845 --> 00:24:50,814 - Well, I will cherish it all the more. 420 00:24:52,248 --> 00:24:54,150 - Oh, and don't forget the card. 421 00:24:57,620 --> 00:24:59,189 Tickets as well. 422 00:25:01,291 --> 00:25:02,492 You will be my date. 423 00:25:03,460 --> 00:25:04,294 - Of course. 424 00:25:05,462 --> 00:25:07,764 - I am gonna make you proud Dad. 425 00:25:07,764 --> 00:25:08,665 - I know you will. 426 00:25:15,705 --> 00:25:18,108 There are no messages in your box. 427 00:25:25,849 --> 00:25:28,651 - So, judging by the forensic report and other factors, 428 00:25:28,651 --> 00:25:31,688 there's no evidence that she was struggling against 429 00:25:31,688 --> 00:25:34,157 a sex act that would suggest rape. 430 00:25:34,157 --> 00:25:37,360 - Well, yeah, unless she was facing the barrel of a gun. 431 00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:40,063 - Possibly, but we have no way of knowing 432 00:25:40,063 --> 00:25:41,831 if that was the case, or not. 433 00:25:41,831 --> 00:25:43,333 - Either way, 434 00:25:43,333 --> 00:25:45,001 it's my belief that she was strangled from behind 435 00:25:45,001 --> 00:25:48,671 in the doggy style position while sex was happening. 436 00:25:48,671 --> 00:25:52,275 - Right, so it could have been erotic asphyxiation. 437 00:25:52,275 --> 00:25:56,479 - Yes, it's a dangerous act and possibly pushed too far. 438 00:26:13,696 --> 00:26:15,899 You have one new message. 439 00:26:15,899 --> 00:26:17,434 To hear it, press one. 440 00:26:20,703 --> 00:26:22,038 - Hello, Sarah. 441 00:26:22,038 --> 00:26:25,075 This is Tom, box 2001. 442 00:26:27,177 --> 00:26:28,645 I like your ad. 443 00:26:28,645 --> 00:26:31,081 So, I'm gonna go ahead and tell you a little fantasy story. 444 00:26:33,216 --> 00:26:35,785 It's summertime and you're staying at your friend's 445 00:26:35,785 --> 00:26:39,422 remote cottage while they're traveling through Europe. 446 00:26:39,422 --> 00:26:40,824 But your friend forgot to tell you, 447 00:26:40,824 --> 00:26:42,258 that this is the week they've booked 448 00:26:42,258 --> 00:26:43,526 to have the roof redone. 449 00:26:44,561 --> 00:26:46,563 And I am that roofer. 450 00:26:48,331 --> 00:26:51,434 I knock on the cottage door, but there's no answer. 451 00:26:51,434 --> 00:26:52,702 I go around to the back 452 00:26:52,702 --> 00:26:55,438 and find myself outside an open bathroom window, 453 00:26:56,606 --> 00:26:57,907 and that's when I see you. 454 00:26:59,275 --> 00:27:02,479 You're naked in the shower, your nipples are erect 455 00:27:03,746 --> 00:27:05,181 and I watch you. 456 00:27:05,181 --> 00:27:07,450 Then you suddenly no longer feel alone. 457 00:27:07,450 --> 00:27:08,651 You turn to look out the window, 458 00:27:08,651 --> 00:27:10,787 but I quickly pull back into the bushes, 459 00:27:11,688 --> 00:27:12,889 I hear the shower turn off 460 00:27:12,889 --> 00:27:15,158 and I return to the front door 461 00:27:15,158 --> 00:27:16,626 and I knock. 462 00:27:17,894 --> 00:27:19,262 I knock again and I wait. 463 00:27:20,330 --> 00:27:21,297 Then you answer. 464 00:27:22,432 --> 00:27:24,601 If you wanna hear the rest of my story, 465 00:27:24,601 --> 00:27:26,269 leave me a message in box 2001. 466 00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:31,074 - Brenda. 467 00:27:33,443 --> 00:27:35,411 - Sorry, didn't mean to scare you. 468 00:27:35,411 --> 00:27:37,380 - Ah, no, it's okay. 469 00:27:37,380 --> 00:27:38,581 - I know there's a lot of pressure on you 470 00:27:38,581 --> 00:27:39,883 and me about this case. 471 00:27:39,883 --> 00:27:41,384 It's not gonna be an easy one to crack, 472 00:27:41,384 --> 00:27:45,588 but I'm pleased with how you're handling it so far, okay?. 473 00:27:45,588 --> 00:27:46,756 - Thanks Mike. 474 00:27:46,756 --> 00:27:48,658 I appreciate that. 475 00:27:48,658 --> 00:27:50,093 - Now, get outta here and get some rest. 476 00:27:50,093 --> 00:27:50,927 - Okay. 477 00:29:10,273 --> 00:29:13,910 I look in and I see you naked. 478 00:29:13,910 --> 00:29:15,511 Your breasts are full. 479 00:29:15,511 --> 00:29:17,080 Your nipples erect. 480 00:29:18,214 --> 00:29:20,149 I feast my eyes on you. 481 00:29:21,351 --> 00:29:22,885 You wanna hear the rest of my story? 482 00:29:22,885 --> 00:29:26,122 Leave me a message in box 2001. 483 00:29:41,904 --> 00:29:45,108 Member 2001 is currently online. 484 00:29:45,108 --> 00:29:47,610 To leave a message, press two. 485 00:29:49,612 --> 00:29:51,614 - Hi Tom, this is Sarah. 486 00:29:52,749 --> 00:29:55,251 I received your message this morning 487 00:29:55,251 --> 00:29:57,320 and I liked it very much. 488 00:29:59,122 --> 00:30:02,925 I'm home now and would like to continue your fantasy story. 489 00:30:07,063 --> 00:30:08,264 You have a live 490 00:30:08,264 --> 00:30:11,434 connection request from box 2001. 491 00:30:11,434 --> 00:30:14,404 To accept the request, press two. 492 00:30:25,048 --> 00:30:28,718 You are now being connected live to box 2001. 493 00:30:32,922 --> 00:30:36,392 Sarah, I thought you might leave me a message. 494 00:30:36,392 --> 00:30:37,593 Here you are. 495 00:30:39,996 --> 00:30:40,830 Hello. 496 00:30:43,099 --> 00:30:44,901 Hello, who? 497 00:30:44,901 --> 00:30:45,935 Hello, Tom. 498 00:30:47,070 --> 00:30:47,870 - That's better. 499 00:30:50,073 --> 00:30:51,674 I think it's so much better talking live, 500 00:30:51,674 --> 00:30:54,677 than leaving each other in messages, don't you think? 501 00:30:54,677 --> 00:30:55,478 - I do. 502 00:30:56,713 --> 00:30:58,881 You have a very sexy voice. 503 00:31:00,183 --> 00:31:01,017 - You know, 504 00:31:01,017 --> 00:31:02,719 I've been told that. 505 00:31:02,719 --> 00:31:04,320 Most people sound different on the phone, 506 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,790 but I guess I'm lucky to sound sexy. 507 00:31:07,790 --> 00:31:09,759 So, what's your story? 508 00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:10,927 You married, 509 00:31:10,927 --> 00:31:11,894 attached? 510 00:31:13,062 --> 00:31:14,063 Are you on your own? 511 00:31:15,431 --> 00:31:16,766 - I'm on my own. 512 00:31:17,767 --> 00:31:19,302 - That's good. 513 00:31:19,302 --> 00:31:20,703 What do you look like? 514 00:31:20,703 --> 00:31:21,537 And be honest. 515 00:31:22,705 --> 00:31:25,641 - I have blonde hair, green eyes, 516 00:31:26,642 --> 00:31:27,677 five foot four. 517 00:31:28,878 --> 00:31:31,080 Full, figured, slim? 518 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:31,914 - Slim. 519 00:31:33,149 --> 00:31:34,450 - What about your breasts? 520 00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:38,321 - They're small, but nice. 521 00:31:38,321 --> 00:31:39,756 - It's very good. 522 00:31:39,756 --> 00:31:41,958 Well, let me tell you about myself. 523 00:31:41,958 --> 00:31:46,129 I'm 39 tall, dark and handsome. 524 00:31:46,129 --> 00:31:48,164 I'm not that tall, but I'm tall enough. 525 00:31:49,332 --> 00:31:52,869 Dark and I've been told I'm kind of handsome. 526 00:31:55,505 --> 00:31:57,106 Does that appeal to you? 527 00:31:57,106 --> 00:31:57,907 - Yes. 528 00:32:00,977 --> 00:32:01,978 - Did it turn you on? 529 00:32:03,346 --> 00:32:04,247 - It could. 530 00:32:05,348 --> 00:32:06,149 - Good. 531 00:32:08,151 --> 00:32:12,121 Is that Puccini's Madam Butterfly I'm hearing back there? 532 00:32:14,023 --> 00:32:15,024 - Yes it is. 533 00:32:16,526 --> 00:32:18,594 - Do you know that Puccini wrote that duet 534 00:32:18,594 --> 00:32:22,665 to express butterflies first sexual experience? 535 00:32:22,665 --> 00:32:23,699 - No, I didn't. 536 00:32:25,001 --> 00:32:26,235 - Why don't you turn it up 537 00:32:26,235 --> 00:32:27,570 and I'll finish the rest of my story. 538 00:32:27,570 --> 00:32:28,571 Would you like that? 539 00:32:29,806 --> 00:32:30,640 - Yes, please. 540 00:32:55,731 --> 00:32:57,400 - It's a hot day 541 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,769 and I'm working on your roof, wearing shorts. 542 00:33:01,304 --> 00:33:04,841 You're down below in the garden in a thin halter, 543 00:33:04,841 --> 00:33:07,276 with your perky nipples poking through. 544 00:33:09,145 --> 00:33:12,415 I'm taking in the ripeness of your delicious body, 545 00:33:12,415 --> 00:33:15,084 as the sun beats down on the both of us. 546 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,022 Are you touching yourself a little bit, Sarah? 547 00:33:20,990 --> 00:33:21,824 Yes. 548 00:33:23,159 --> 00:33:24,694 - Good. 549 00:33:24,694 --> 00:33:25,595 Keep going. 550 00:33:37,206 --> 00:33:38,941 You offer me a glass of water. 551 00:33:40,343 --> 00:33:42,545 So, I come down the ladder and I take the glass. 552 00:33:44,514 --> 00:33:47,683 Now your face is close to my shorts. 553 00:33:47,683 --> 00:33:50,453 You can see the outline of my cock 554 00:33:50,453 --> 00:33:52,488 and I can see the lust in your eyes. 555 00:33:53,356 --> 00:33:55,992 Suddenly I dropped the glass. 556 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,862 Take your hand and I slide it up my shorts, 557 00:34:01,297 --> 00:34:04,567 my cock fills your hand as our eyes lock together. 558 00:34:15,678 --> 00:34:19,448 Our passions are about to explode. 559 00:34:19,448 --> 00:34:21,717 But then suddenly you pull away 560 00:34:21,717 --> 00:34:23,819 and you run back into the cottage. 561 00:34:25,721 --> 00:34:27,423 And I wonder if I've gone too far. 562 00:34:29,358 --> 00:34:31,427 I follow you up to the cottage. 563 00:34:31,427 --> 00:34:34,130 You've gone upstairs and closed the door of your room, 564 00:34:35,131 --> 00:34:36,432 your heart pounds 565 00:34:36,432 --> 00:34:39,535 as you hear me climbing the steps towards you, 566 00:34:39,535 --> 00:34:42,405 I get to the door and I wonder, 567 00:34:43,372 --> 00:34:47,877 is it locked, or open? 568 00:34:47,877 --> 00:34:49,045 - It's locked. 569 00:34:51,714 --> 00:34:54,317 - I turnthe knob and it's open. 570 00:34:55,885 --> 00:34:57,887 It was always open, wasn't it? 571 00:35:01,490 --> 00:35:05,161 Now, I'm in the room and I move towards you, 572 00:35:06,495 --> 00:35:10,066 grab your ankles and I pull you towards me. 573 00:35:10,066 --> 00:35:14,170 I slowly descend upon you when I plunge into you, 574 00:35:15,204 --> 00:35:16,539 again and again. 575 00:35:17,773 --> 00:35:19,342 Oh yes. 576 00:35:19,342 --> 00:35:20,343 - And again. 577 00:35:22,778 --> 00:35:23,946 - Take me Tom. 578 00:35:25,114 --> 00:35:29,785 Take me. 579 00:36:15,598 --> 00:36:18,234 - Sarah, you still there? 580 00:36:24,807 --> 00:36:25,641 - Yes. 581 00:36:28,411 --> 00:36:29,478 - You enjoy yourself? 582 00:36:32,381 --> 00:36:33,215 - I did. 583 00:36:35,217 --> 00:36:36,118 Very much. 584 00:36:37,386 --> 00:36:38,854 - Good. 585 00:36:38,854 --> 00:36:40,790 Maybe next time you'll enjoy yourself even more. 586 00:36:42,158 --> 00:36:44,093 There will be a next time, won't there, Sarah? 587 00:36:48,931 --> 00:36:49,765 - Yes. 588 00:36:51,934 --> 00:36:53,169 - All right. 589 00:36:53,169 --> 00:36:55,237 Well, I look forward to talking to you again. 590 00:36:57,173 --> 00:36:58,007 Goodnight. 591 00:37:30,172 --> 00:37:33,509 - Why was I so aroused by this man, Tom? 592 00:37:35,711 --> 00:37:37,780 Was it his strength and confidence 593 00:37:37,780 --> 00:37:41,751 that allowed me to feel so safe and let myself go? 594 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,388 But I never had felt that free. 595 00:37:46,388 --> 00:37:48,691 It's like I had escaped 596 00:37:50,226 --> 00:37:53,829 and I was surprised when these feelings surfaced in me. 597 00:37:55,131 --> 00:37:57,733 - Well, you've come face-to-face with a personal truth 598 00:37:57,733 --> 00:38:00,136 you've always avoided. 599 00:38:00,136 --> 00:38:03,172 In your daily life as a law enforcement officer, 600 00:38:03,172 --> 00:38:05,975 you are the one very much in control. 601 00:38:05,975 --> 00:38:08,944 But as a woman dealing with her own sexuality 602 00:38:08,944 --> 00:38:11,881 and the overwhelming power of it, 603 00:38:11,881 --> 00:38:14,850 you need to be seduced by another, 604 00:38:14,850 --> 00:38:18,320 to do things that you subconsciously desire, 605 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,989 but can't admit to, or accept. 606 00:38:22,892 --> 00:38:25,928 And Brenda, this is a barrier 607 00:38:25,928 --> 00:38:28,164 that you yourself have built. 608 00:38:34,436 --> 00:38:35,604 - Fingerprint report. 609 00:38:37,940 --> 00:38:39,708 The victims, of course, was everywhere, 610 00:38:39,708 --> 00:38:43,245 except on the doorknobs and drawers where they should be. 611 00:38:44,413 --> 00:38:47,116 - It's probably just wiped clean by the perp. 612 00:38:47,116 --> 00:38:49,919 - Charlie's report says that there's two sets of prints, 613 00:38:49,919 --> 00:38:52,354 one which was left by the super. 614 00:38:52,354 --> 00:38:53,856 - Yeah, but as a super, 615 00:38:53,856 --> 00:38:55,424 there'd be lots of reasons for him to be in there. 616 00:38:55,424 --> 00:38:57,259 - There's also a set that we can't trace. 617 00:38:57,259 --> 00:38:59,895 I mean, no criminal record, nothing on file. 618 00:38:59,895 --> 00:39:01,397 - Yeah, but who? 619 00:39:01,397 --> 00:39:03,766 I mean, no one seems to know much about her personal life. 620 00:39:03,766 --> 00:39:05,901 - Okay, well, nothing else to do, 621 00:39:05,901 --> 00:39:07,336 but keep hammering at it until we find something 622 00:39:07,336 --> 00:39:09,605 that leads us to something else, so keep at it. 623 00:39:11,073 --> 00:39:13,042 Brenda a minute, please. 624 00:39:13,042 --> 00:39:14,577 - Yeah. 625 00:39:14,577 --> 00:39:15,811 - I had a thought. 626 00:39:15,811 --> 00:39:18,214 The victim and this guy we're looking for, 627 00:39:18,214 --> 00:39:21,150 they might have met on that sex app, you mentioned, 628 00:39:21,150 --> 00:39:22,251 Night Line was it? 629 00:39:22,251 --> 00:39:23,719 - No, no, Night Talk. 630 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,721 - You think it might be useful at all, 631 00:39:25,721 --> 00:39:26,689 if we put an undercover on it? 632 00:39:26,689 --> 00:39:27,990 She could listen to the weirdos 633 00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:29,892 and see if she picks anything up. 634 00:39:30,726 --> 00:39:31,560 - Yeah. 635 00:39:32,595 --> 00:39:33,696 Yeah, that could work. 636 00:39:35,965 --> 00:39:37,766 Do you have anybody in mind? 637 00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:39,802 - No, off the top of my head. 638 00:39:39,802 --> 00:39:42,671 Could even be you. 639 00:39:42,671 --> 00:39:45,040 - Yeah, that could work. 640 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,308 - You can make up a fake ad. 641 00:39:46,308 --> 00:39:47,776 See if anybody like this perp, 642 00:39:47,776 --> 00:39:49,812 we're looking for bites. 643 00:39:49,812 --> 00:39:51,447 Might not be strictly legal, but. 644 00:39:52,581 --> 00:39:54,116 - Yeah, let me think about it. 645 00:40:00,756 --> 00:40:03,125 I need a pick me up, care to join? 646 00:40:03,125 --> 00:40:03,926 - Of course. 647 00:40:06,629 --> 00:40:08,230 - The Roundup? 648 00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:10,666 - Nah, I'm off that place. 649 00:40:10,666 --> 00:40:12,635 - Oh did you use up all those cougars? 650 00:40:12,635 --> 00:40:14,103 Yeah. 651 00:40:14,103 --> 00:40:16,939 No, I go to a new place now, buddy of mine knows it. 652 00:40:17,773 --> 00:40:18,874 - West Side Wildcat. 653 00:40:18,874 --> 00:40:20,309 That's me. 654 00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:21,243 I was a fullback of the 92 team. 655 00:40:21,243 --> 00:40:22,778 Jimmy here was the right guard. 656 00:40:22,778 --> 00:40:25,047 Now, of course, the 93 team were the city champs, 657 00:40:25,047 --> 00:40:28,884 which I wasn't part of because, we moved outta the city. 658 00:40:28,884 --> 00:40:30,686 So, I missed out on all the glory. 659 00:40:30,686 --> 00:40:32,321 - And the ring. 660 00:40:32,321 --> 00:40:33,923 - Oh, wait, when did you get that? 661 00:40:33,923 --> 00:40:34,924 - Just got it. 662 00:40:34,924 --> 00:40:36,659 25th anniversary reunion. 663 00:40:36,659 --> 00:40:40,529 - Which I was at, but the 92 team didn't get a ring. 664 00:40:40,529 --> 00:40:41,430 Eddie. 665 00:40:42,498 --> 00:40:43,399 Enjoy, guys. 666 00:40:43,399 --> 00:40:44,266 Thanks. 667 00:40:45,567 --> 00:40:48,203 - So, what did Sherlock Holmes have to say? 668 00:40:49,405 --> 00:40:51,073 - So, he is thinking about putting someone 669 00:40:51,073 --> 00:40:52,908 on the chat line undercover. 670 00:40:52,908 --> 00:40:54,310 - Worth a shot. 671 00:40:54,310 --> 00:40:55,110 - He asked me. 672 00:40:56,312 --> 00:40:57,680 - Your voice is sexier than mine. 673 00:40:59,014 --> 00:41:00,282 - But I'm already on it. 674 00:41:01,350 --> 00:41:02,918 - Jesus Christ. 675 00:41:02,918 --> 00:41:05,721 - I went on it two weeks ago on my own. 676 00:41:05,721 --> 00:41:06,956 Look, I didn't tell you because 677 00:41:06,956 --> 00:41:08,524 I hadn't come up with anything, 678 00:41:08,524 --> 00:41:13,162 but I created this ad and I went on the fetish category. 679 00:41:14,563 --> 00:41:17,766 - Oh, you must have heard some pretty interesting stuff. 680 00:41:17,766 --> 00:41:20,135 - Come on don't be so pervy. 681 00:41:20,135 --> 00:41:23,238 It's police work, not my private life, 682 00:41:23,238 --> 00:41:26,275 and I haven't come up with anything, 683 00:41:26,275 --> 00:41:28,077 and maybe never will. 684 00:41:28,077 --> 00:41:29,778 - Well, you've gone this far. 685 00:41:29,778 --> 00:41:32,448 Might as well give it more time, we got nothing anyway. 686 00:41:33,716 --> 00:41:35,484 - You think I should tell Bennett? 687 00:41:35,484 --> 00:41:37,886 - Tell him you're moving forward with his idea. 688 00:41:37,886 --> 00:41:40,222 I mean, who's to know you're thinking faster than him? 689 00:41:40,222 --> 00:41:41,357 Most of us are anyway. 690 00:41:42,925 --> 00:41:45,227 Okay, but this is strictly between us. 691 00:41:45,227 --> 00:41:46,061 - Absolutely. 692 00:41:53,402 --> 00:41:55,204 - From then on, I couldn't think about the case 693 00:41:55,204 --> 00:41:56,538 without thinking of Tom. 694 00:41:57,740 --> 00:42:00,209 I had no idea what he even looked like. 695 00:42:01,443 --> 00:42:02,978 It could be anybody. 696 00:42:07,750 --> 00:42:10,219 I was becoming obsessed with this man. 697 00:42:10,219 --> 00:42:11,754 As soon as I got home, 698 00:42:11,754 --> 00:42:13,889 the first thing I did was go to the Night Talk app. 699 00:42:16,058 --> 00:42:18,427 Tom told me the most wonderful fantasies, 700 00:42:18,427 --> 00:42:19,661 I could ever imagine. 701 00:42:21,130 --> 00:42:24,433 At first, I was taken by his overwhelming sexual energy. 702 00:42:24,433 --> 00:42:26,168 But then as his stories continued, 703 00:42:26,168 --> 00:42:28,537 I could also sense beneath his strength, 704 00:42:28,537 --> 00:42:30,539 a softer and gentler side to him. 705 00:42:31,974 --> 00:42:34,676 And I began to feel so open with this man I had never met, 706 00:42:34,676 --> 00:42:38,013 or touched, let alone kissed. 707 00:42:39,615 --> 00:42:42,351 Then I saw Madame Butterfly 708 00:42:43,952 --> 00:42:46,088 and for the first time through new eyes. 709 00:43:09,244 --> 00:43:14,216 I was more than ever, deeply moved by Madam Butterfly, 710 00:43:15,617 --> 00:43:18,253 because my experience with Tom had helped me in accepting 711 00:43:18,253 --> 00:43:21,390 the power and passion of my own sexuality. 712 00:43:21,390 --> 00:43:24,393 But Tom had also left me in a dilemma. 713 00:43:26,128 --> 00:43:28,030 My professional investigative reasons 714 00:43:28,030 --> 00:43:29,832 for being on Night Talk, 715 00:43:29,832 --> 00:43:34,603 were now becoming overridden by my personal erotic ones. 716 00:44:26,922 --> 00:44:29,224 And then I found myself in a further 717 00:44:29,224 --> 00:44:30,726 and more painful dilemma, 718 00:44:33,328 --> 00:44:35,364 one I should have seen coming. 719 00:44:46,208 --> 00:44:47,843 - I love the way you come, Sarah, 720 00:44:49,344 --> 00:44:51,380 so beautifully, so passionately. 721 00:44:52,581 --> 00:44:54,416 - I love the way you make me come. 722 00:44:55,918 --> 00:45:00,355 - But I wanna see you come Sarah, I wanna feel you come. 723 00:45:01,490 --> 00:45:02,658 I think we should meet. 724 00:45:06,895 --> 00:45:07,729 - No. 725 00:45:09,431 --> 00:45:11,967 No, I can't do that. 726 00:45:11,967 --> 00:45:13,202 - Why not? 727 00:45:13,202 --> 00:45:15,671 A lot of people meet on this line. 728 00:45:15,671 --> 00:45:17,873 - Have you met many women on this line? 729 00:45:17,873 --> 00:45:19,107 - That's not important. 730 00:45:19,107 --> 00:45:20,609 What's important is I haven't talked to anyone 731 00:45:20,609 --> 00:45:23,245 that I wanted to meet as much as I wanna meet you. 732 00:45:24,646 --> 00:45:26,348 - Yes, I know, but meeting could ruin everything. 733 00:45:26,348 --> 00:45:30,052 I mean, I hardly know you, but I do trust you. 734 00:45:31,787 --> 00:45:33,455 But maybe it's because we haven't met. 735 00:45:33,455 --> 00:45:37,593 I mean, there's no expectations, no realities. 736 00:45:39,895 --> 00:45:41,797 We can just be each other's fantasies. 737 00:45:43,665 --> 00:45:45,234 - Fantasies can only go so far, Sarah. 738 00:45:45,234 --> 00:45:47,336 I wanna make this thing real. 739 00:45:48,437 --> 00:45:49,605 Do you understand that? 740 00:45:50,772 --> 00:45:51,607 - Yes. 741 00:45:52,841 --> 00:45:54,776 Let me think about it. 742 00:45:54,776 --> 00:45:55,611 - Okay. 743 00:45:56,545 --> 00:45:57,479 You think about it. 744 00:45:59,848 --> 00:46:02,217 Think about what it'll be like for you, 745 00:46:03,619 --> 00:46:05,621 if I don't take your calls anymore. 746 00:46:05,621 --> 00:46:06,788 Do you understand that? 747 00:46:10,125 --> 00:46:11,193 - Yes. 748 00:46:11,193 --> 00:46:12,027 - Good. 749 00:46:22,204 --> 00:46:25,040 - Brenda, you cannot let this guy get away. 750 00:46:26,541 --> 00:46:28,710 I mean, talk about beginner's luck. 751 00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:30,679 I've been on that app for like a year, 752 00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:32,814 and I have not struck hot gold like this guy. 753 00:46:32,814 --> 00:46:34,049 - What about Mr. Right? 754 00:46:34,049 --> 00:46:37,119 - Mr half right, his half. 755 00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:40,055 Anyway, you've gotta meet up with this Tom guy. 756 00:46:40,055 --> 00:46:42,591 I mean, he's giving you what you want in spades. 757 00:46:42,591 --> 00:46:45,060 - Look, I'm a police officer investigating a murder. 758 00:46:45,060 --> 00:46:46,428 I can't risk blowing my cover. 759 00:46:46,428 --> 00:46:48,864 - Yeah, but don't you wanna blow him? 760 00:46:48,864 --> 00:46:49,698 - Ha ha. 761 00:46:50,866 --> 00:46:52,868 And what if he is not the way that I imagined? 762 00:46:52,868 --> 00:46:55,270 - Are your orgasms imagined? 763 00:46:56,471 --> 00:46:57,806 - No. 764 00:46:57,806 --> 00:46:58,740 - Okay. 765 00:46:58,740 --> 00:46:59,975 So you gotta arrange to meet him 766 00:46:59,975 --> 00:47:01,410 at a coffee shop or something, right? 767 00:47:01,410 --> 00:47:03,211 Give him a false description of what you're wearing 768 00:47:03,211 --> 00:47:04,946 and you can check him out anonymously. 769 00:47:04,946 --> 00:47:06,548 And if you're into him, you text him, 770 00:47:06,548 --> 00:47:08,483 you tell him I got tied up at work, 771 00:47:08,483 --> 00:47:09,751 and you arrange to meet him later 772 00:47:09,751 --> 00:47:11,320 and he can tie you up for real. 773 00:47:12,788 --> 00:47:15,524 If you pass on him, pass him on to me. 774 00:47:55,464 --> 00:47:57,933 - I had imagined Tom to be a stern looking man, 775 00:47:59,801 --> 00:48:01,636 but he has a shyness in his eyes. 776 00:48:03,004 --> 00:48:05,941 In contrast to his brash, confident manner on Night Talk. 777 00:48:39,674 --> 00:48:41,176 I panicked. 778 00:48:41,176 --> 00:48:43,512 I just couldn't go up to this man I had never seen before 779 00:48:43,512 --> 00:48:46,415 and just say, "Hi, I'm Sarah, 780 00:48:46,415 --> 00:48:48,550 "the blonde who's been climaxing over the phone 781 00:48:48,550 --> 00:48:50,252 "and I'm here because I want more" 782 00:48:55,791 --> 00:48:59,127 Tom, look I'm sorry I'm not there. 783 00:48:59,127 --> 00:49:00,662 There was an emergency at work, 784 00:49:02,831 --> 00:49:04,433 but hopefully we can meet again. 785 00:49:15,677 --> 00:49:18,680 We connected later online that night. 786 00:49:19,848 --> 00:49:22,784 He was so angry and hurt that I didn't show up. 787 00:49:23,985 --> 00:49:26,188 He started yelling and cursing at me, 788 00:49:26,188 --> 00:49:27,789 and then I started to cry, 789 00:49:29,090 --> 00:49:32,661 and then he felt bad and he started apologizing. 790 00:49:33,995 --> 00:49:36,398 And then I saw this softer, gentler side of him. 791 00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:38,433 - Like? 792 00:49:40,836 --> 00:49:43,738 - He said, it was the awareness of his vulnerability 793 00:49:43,738 --> 00:49:44,606 that angered him 794 00:49:46,074 --> 00:49:48,743 and that he thought he had conquered it. 795 00:49:48,743 --> 00:49:50,479 - Did he explain more about that? 796 00:49:52,614 --> 00:49:54,749 - Well, he said that he was a nerdy, 797 00:49:54,749 --> 00:49:59,454 smart kid in high school and that he had a crush on Jenny, 798 00:49:59,454 --> 00:50:00,956 a girl in the senior class. 799 00:50:03,124 --> 00:50:05,527 - She was the most beautiful girl I'd ever seen. 800 00:50:06,628 --> 00:50:08,230 I was crazy about her. 801 00:50:10,966 --> 00:50:12,634 Then she asked me to cheat 802 00:50:12,634 --> 00:50:16,271 and write an essay for her college entry exam. 803 00:50:17,906 --> 00:50:20,308 But I refused, I just couldn't do it. 804 00:50:20,308 --> 00:50:21,142 So, she wrote it herself. 805 00:50:21,142 --> 00:50:23,278 She didn't get accepted. 806 00:50:23,278 --> 00:50:26,515 So, she started plotting her revenge. 807 00:50:26,515 --> 00:50:28,517 She invited me over to her parents' place 808 00:50:28,517 --> 00:50:32,187 when they were away, and she started to seduce me. 809 00:50:32,187 --> 00:50:34,089 She got me completely naked 810 00:50:34,089 --> 00:50:37,425 and led me into her darkened bedroom, 811 00:50:37,425 --> 00:50:39,761 by my very stiff cock. 812 00:50:40,829 --> 00:50:43,965 Then suddenly, boom, 813 00:50:43,965 --> 00:50:46,468 surprise, the lights switched on 814 00:50:46,468 --> 00:50:48,236 and there were all of her friends 815 00:50:48,236 --> 00:50:51,506 and a guy who turned out to be her boyfriend, 816 00:50:51,506 --> 00:50:54,175 standing there laughing at me. 817 00:50:54,175 --> 00:50:56,611 I was humiliated, 818 00:50:58,146 --> 00:50:59,681 shattered, angry. 819 00:51:00,982 --> 00:51:03,151 I dropped outta school the next day. 820 00:51:03,151 --> 00:51:04,553 I shut down. 821 00:51:05,987 --> 00:51:07,222 I didn't want to have anything to do with women 822 00:51:07,222 --> 00:51:08,490 for a very long time. 823 00:51:09,457 --> 00:51:11,359 And when I started again, 824 00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:13,628 I made a promise that, 825 00:51:13,628 --> 00:51:15,263 I was never gonna be treated like that. 826 00:51:15,263 --> 00:51:19,467 I was never gonna give up that kind of control. 827 00:51:19,467 --> 00:51:22,370 And I started to feel that I liked it 828 00:51:22,370 --> 00:51:23,872 and when I got on to Night Talk. 829 00:51:23,872 --> 00:51:27,108 I found that there are women on the line who liked it too, 830 00:51:27,108 --> 00:51:27,943 just like you. 831 00:51:31,146 --> 00:51:34,683 That's just phone sex fantasy, Sarah. 832 00:51:34,683 --> 00:51:35,917 It's play acting. 833 00:51:37,319 --> 00:51:41,156 Acting it brought us together, the real us. 834 00:51:42,757 --> 00:51:45,126 And that's why I want to be with you for real. 835 00:51:45,126 --> 00:51:47,662 Sarah, this is the last time I'm gonna ask, 836 00:51:47,662 --> 00:51:48,663 you understand that? 837 00:51:51,166 --> 00:51:51,967 - Okay. 838 00:51:53,435 --> 00:51:55,036 Yes. 839 00:51:55,036 --> 00:51:56,104 Let's try it for real. 840 00:51:57,405 --> 00:51:58,306 - Okay, good. 841 00:51:59,808 --> 00:52:02,611 This Friday, 7:00 o'clock, The Merlo on Clark Street. 842 00:52:02,611 --> 00:52:03,778 Do you know it? 843 00:52:03,778 --> 00:52:05,113 - I do. 844 00:52:05,113 --> 00:52:06,081 - I'll see you then. 845 00:52:13,088 --> 00:52:15,857 Were you falling in love with him? 846 00:52:15,857 --> 00:52:17,926 - Well, I certainly was in lust with him, 847 00:52:19,294 --> 00:52:22,497 but I began to wonder if there could be something more. 848 00:52:24,432 --> 00:52:26,334 - Did you want to be in love with him? 849 00:52:27,869 --> 00:52:29,437 - Yes. 850 00:52:29,437 --> 00:52:30,572 I didn't know it then, 851 00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:34,609 but Tom allowed me to be myself. 852 00:52:36,044 --> 00:52:38,847 I've been waiting for somebody like that, 853 00:52:38,847 --> 00:52:42,083 except that it took a dramatic turn. 854 00:52:47,222 --> 00:52:50,358 We still had no definite leads in our investigation. 855 00:52:50,358 --> 00:52:53,461 So on a hunch, I decided to revisit the crime scene. 856 00:52:54,663 --> 00:52:56,731 I'd gone over Leo's report that morning. 857 00:52:56,731 --> 00:52:58,733 He listed items he had checked in the kitchen, 858 00:52:58,733 --> 00:53:02,170 including two canisters, one with sugar and one with flour. 859 00:53:03,938 --> 00:53:06,107 But then I noticed that there was a third canister, 860 00:53:06,107 --> 00:53:09,878 and I wonder if he had checked it. 861 00:53:18,086 --> 00:53:19,621 In the crime world, 862 00:53:19,621 --> 00:53:21,823 criminals make mistakes all the time, 863 00:53:22,724 --> 00:53:25,927 and sometimes, so do police. 864 00:53:28,029 --> 00:53:29,998 So, I decided not to tell Captain Bennett 865 00:53:29,998 --> 00:53:32,701 about Leo's mistake and deal with it myself. 866 00:53:36,037 --> 00:53:38,373 So, these are the guys that she was interested in. 867 00:53:38,373 --> 00:53:39,507 Right. 868 00:53:39,507 --> 00:53:40,742 - Okay. 869 00:53:40,742 --> 00:53:42,243 Well, we need her user ID and her password, 870 00:53:42,243 --> 00:53:43,511 so we can listen to the messages from these guys. 871 00:53:43,511 --> 00:53:44,813 But only if she sees them. 872 00:53:46,214 --> 00:53:48,683 She was a busy lady. 873 00:53:48,683 --> 00:53:50,185 Oh my goodness. 874 00:53:50,185 --> 00:53:52,153 But doesn't mean she met up with any of these guys. 875 00:53:52,153 --> 00:53:54,589 - So Night Talk gives you a user ID number, 876 00:53:54,589 --> 00:53:57,659 and then you have to choose your four digit password. 877 00:54:00,128 --> 00:54:01,796 What if she was lazy like everybody else 878 00:54:01,796 --> 00:54:02,831 and picked her birthday? 879 00:54:02,831 --> 00:54:04,966 - Yes, that's easy to remember. 880 00:54:04,966 --> 00:54:08,970 - Okay, so she was born November 14th, 1984. 881 00:54:08,970 --> 00:54:12,574 I mean, that's 1184 or 1114. 882 00:54:12,574 --> 00:54:15,176 So we need to find a number written down in conjunction with 883 00:54:15,176 --> 00:54:18,279 another number and then that's her user id. 884 00:54:20,215 --> 00:54:22,383 Oh bingo. 885 00:54:22,383 --> 00:54:23,351 third page. - Oh wow, 886 00:54:23,351 --> 00:54:24,486 she was lazy. 887 00:54:28,022 --> 00:54:30,425 Welcome to Night Talk. 888 00:54:30,425 --> 00:54:33,928 This is user number 4375. 889 00:54:33,928 --> 00:54:35,663 My name is Joan. 890 00:54:35,663 --> 00:54:37,265 - That's her. 891 00:54:37,265 --> 00:54:39,667 - I'm a mid 30s attractive lady. 892 00:54:39,667 --> 00:54:42,537 You have one saved message. 893 00:54:42,537 --> 00:54:43,471 Hi, Joan. 894 00:54:43,471 --> 00:54:45,039 This is Tom from box 2001. 895 00:54:46,708 --> 00:54:49,511 - Oh my God, is that your guy? 896 00:54:51,045 --> 00:54:51,880 - Yeah, it is. 897 00:54:53,047 --> 00:54:55,116 I would love to meet you this Thursday 898 00:54:55,116 --> 00:54:58,153 and act out that fantasy story we talked about. 899 00:54:58,153 --> 00:55:02,190 Message me in my mailbox 2001, or call me on my cell. 900 00:55:02,190 --> 00:55:04,559 555-698-8969. 901 00:55:09,230 --> 00:55:11,132 - That woman was killed on the Thursday. 902 00:55:11,132 --> 00:55:11,966 - Jesus. 903 00:56:44,659 --> 00:56:45,493 - Tom. 904 00:56:50,231 --> 00:56:51,633 I was shattered and in shock, 905 00:56:51,633 --> 00:56:54,369 but I knew what I had to do. 906 00:57:03,378 --> 00:57:05,647 I'll call you back. 907 00:57:05,647 --> 00:57:06,614 - I have a suspect. 908 00:57:06,614 --> 00:57:07,815 - What? 909 00:57:07,815 --> 00:57:09,317 - Yeah. 910 00:57:09,317 --> 00:57:10,752 Yeah. 911 00:57:10,752 --> 00:57:13,755 A guy who talked to the victim on the chat line. 912 00:57:13,755 --> 00:57:16,424 He left his phone number in the voice box. 913 00:57:16,424 --> 00:57:17,392 - Anything visual? 914 00:57:18,526 --> 00:57:19,460 If you know what the guy looks like, 915 00:57:19,460 --> 00:57:20,762 who can check the lobby camera? 916 00:57:21,896 --> 00:57:22,730 - No. 917 00:57:23,865 --> 00:57:25,233 No idea what he looks like. 918 00:57:26,768 --> 00:57:30,071 I don't know if they actually met, 919 00:57:30,071 --> 00:57:33,007 but I do know that they made plans to meet, 920 00:57:33,007 --> 00:57:34,609 on the night of her death. 921 00:57:34,609 --> 00:57:35,610 - We'll talk to him. 922 00:57:36,611 --> 00:57:37,946 Do you wanna make the call? 923 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,150 - No, you go ahead. 924 00:57:43,017 --> 00:57:44,285 - All right. 925 00:57:44,285 --> 00:57:46,087 You may crack this one there cowboy. 926 00:57:50,525 --> 00:57:52,026 Mr Wilson? 927 00:57:52,026 --> 00:57:54,362 Detective Jimmy Dolan, we spoke on the phone. 928 00:57:54,362 --> 00:57:55,663 This is Detective Roberto. 929 00:57:55,663 --> 00:57:56,497 May we come in? 930 00:57:58,399 --> 00:57:59,400 - Of course. 931 00:58:09,944 --> 00:58:12,981 You guys wanted to talk to me about a telephone fraud? 932 00:58:12,981 --> 00:58:15,416 - Not exactly a fraud, Mr. Wilson, 933 00:58:17,352 --> 00:58:18,753 do you recognize this woman? 934 00:58:25,860 --> 00:58:26,995 - No. 935 00:58:26,995 --> 00:58:28,696 No, never seen her before. 936 00:58:29,831 --> 00:58:32,500 - Not in the newspapers a couple weeks ago, 937 00:58:33,901 --> 00:58:35,436 television newscasts? 938 00:58:36,871 --> 00:58:39,307 - No, I try not to watch the news. 939 00:58:39,307 --> 00:58:40,308 I prefer the radio. 940 00:58:41,442 --> 00:58:43,644 My friends say I'm from another century. 941 00:58:43,644 --> 00:58:45,313 Nah, I've never seen her before. 942 00:58:47,215 --> 00:58:50,218 - The woman was a customer of an app called Night Talk. 943 00:58:51,185 --> 00:58:52,220 It's a sex chat line. 944 00:58:53,388 --> 00:58:55,156 You ever been on it? 945 00:59:00,962 --> 00:59:01,796 - Yeah. 946 00:59:01,796 --> 00:59:02,630 Yes. 947 00:59:04,198 --> 00:59:06,501 Actually, I have, yeah. 948 00:59:06,501 --> 00:59:07,468 On it occasionally. 949 00:59:09,537 --> 00:59:12,440 - Well, on that line, I found a message from you to her. 950 00:59:14,709 --> 00:59:16,778 I would love to meet this Thursday, 951 00:59:16,778 --> 00:59:19,814 to act out that submissive fantasy I told you about. 952 00:59:21,983 --> 00:59:23,351 Did you leave that message? 953 00:59:30,058 --> 00:59:31,459 - That's not illegal, is it? 954 00:59:32,860 --> 00:59:35,997 - No, but the woman was found dead a few weeks ago, 955 00:59:37,198 --> 00:59:38,132 on a Thursday. 956 00:59:40,735 --> 00:59:42,904 - Well, I never even met her. 957 00:59:44,072 --> 00:59:45,606 We just talked on the phone. 958 00:59:45,606 --> 00:59:47,175 A lot of people on the line say they're gonna meet up, 959 00:59:47,175 --> 00:59:48,342 but they never do. 960 00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:50,945 - Were you ever in her apartment? 961 00:59:52,547 --> 00:59:53,848 - No. 962 00:59:53,848 --> 00:59:55,049 No, I never met her, 963 00:59:55,049 --> 00:59:58,319 so I wouldn't even know where she lives. 964 00:59:58,319 --> 01:00:01,422 We just had a telephone connection. 965 01:00:01,422 --> 01:00:03,024 That's it. 966 01:00:03,024 --> 01:00:04,325 - Thank you. 967 01:00:04,325 --> 01:00:06,294 Our investigation is ongoing, Mr. Wilson. 968 01:00:06,294 --> 01:00:09,430 So, we may have to talk to you again. 969 01:00:09,430 --> 01:00:11,899 So, I wouldn't make any travel plans for a while. 970 01:00:14,535 --> 01:00:15,369 - Sure. 971 01:00:17,738 --> 01:00:19,941 - So what do you make of that? 972 01:00:19,941 --> 01:00:22,210 - He could be telling the truth, I guess. 973 01:00:22,210 --> 01:00:25,046 - Yeah, and Elvis could still be on tour. 974 01:00:25,046 --> 01:00:26,848 Let's just see what the prints say. 975 01:00:26,848 --> 01:00:28,349 That's him. 976 01:00:28,349 --> 01:00:30,818 So, now we know he was in the building that night. 977 01:00:37,358 --> 01:00:39,393 We have a match, 978 01:00:39,393 --> 01:00:42,063 the unidentified prince in the apartment, 979 01:00:42,063 --> 01:00:43,731 are Tom Wilson's, bring him in. 980 01:00:48,836 --> 01:00:52,707 Mr. Wilson, when you were shown this photo, 981 01:00:52,707 --> 01:00:54,108 you said you didn't know her. 982 01:00:55,409 --> 01:00:57,011 That's right. 983 01:00:57,011 --> 01:00:58,846 Now we have fingerprints you put on that photo, 984 01:00:58,846 --> 01:01:01,015 match the prints we found in the victim's apartment. 985 01:01:01,015 --> 01:01:04,185 So, if you never met her, 986 01:01:04,185 --> 01:01:06,487 what were your prints doing in her apartment? 987 01:01:07,355 --> 01:01:08,623 - This is our man. 988 01:01:08,623 --> 01:01:09,390 Agreed? 989 01:01:10,258 --> 01:01:11,459 - You're absolutely sure? 990 01:01:12,727 --> 01:01:13,728 - Brenda, come on. 991 01:01:17,498 --> 01:01:19,300 - The evidence is clear. 992 01:01:19,300 --> 01:01:20,134 Tom, 993 01:01:21,736 --> 01:01:22,837 tell us what happened. 994 01:01:24,572 --> 01:01:25,773 - Okay, okay. 995 01:01:27,008 --> 01:01:28,476 I was there. 996 01:01:29,343 --> 01:01:31,779 She invited me over and I went, 997 01:01:31,779 --> 01:01:33,047 but I was only there for an hour 998 01:01:33,047 --> 01:01:34,048 and it wasn't working out. 999 01:01:34,048 --> 01:01:35,449 So, I left. 1000 01:01:35,449 --> 01:01:36,784 - What wasn't working out? 1001 01:01:36,784 --> 01:01:37,652 - Why I went there. 1002 01:01:37,652 --> 01:01:38,653 - For the sex? 1003 01:01:40,288 --> 01:01:41,122 - Yeah. 1004 01:01:43,224 --> 01:01:44,325 It became awkward. 1005 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,063 We were fooling around in the living room and then... 1006 01:01:49,063 --> 01:01:50,464 - How? 1007 01:01:50,464 --> 01:01:52,466 - I don't know, kissing, touching. 1008 01:01:52,466 --> 01:01:53,768 She brought me into the bedroom 1009 01:01:53,768 --> 01:01:55,269 and then that's when she told me what she wanted. 1010 01:01:55,269 --> 01:01:56,337 - Which was? 1011 01:01:57,805 --> 01:02:01,876 - She wanted me to tie her up, do this this EAPX thing, 1012 01:02:01,876 --> 01:02:04,378 take a scarf and tie it around her neck from behind, 1013 01:02:04,378 --> 01:02:06,447 while we had sex, 1014 01:02:06,447 --> 01:02:08,716 and tighten it and tighten until she climaxed 1015 01:02:08,716 --> 01:02:10,418 and then let go. 1016 01:02:10,418 --> 01:02:12,420 She said it was the best way to have an orgasm. 1017 01:02:12,420 --> 01:02:14,922 And then once she came, she was gonna do it to me. 1018 01:02:16,357 --> 01:02:18,292 I may have some weird sexual taste, 1019 01:02:18,292 --> 01:02:21,062 but not that weird, or that dangerous. 1020 01:02:21,929 --> 01:02:23,598 So, I left. 1021 01:02:28,869 --> 01:02:30,871 Look, I think I have the right to call my lawyer. 1022 01:02:33,474 --> 01:02:34,742 Detective Dolan, 1023 01:02:34,742 --> 01:02:36,077 could you come to my office please? 1024 01:02:40,982 --> 01:02:42,450 - I almost got him. 1025 01:02:42,450 --> 01:02:43,651 - You're close. 1026 01:02:43,651 --> 01:02:45,519 But we gotta let him see his lawyer. 1027 01:02:46,587 --> 01:02:48,122 While we're bringing him in here, 1028 01:02:48,122 --> 01:02:49,323 Brenda, go in there and see what you can get out of him. 1029 01:02:49,323 --> 01:02:50,858 Try the good cop routine. 1030 01:02:53,027 --> 01:02:54,729 - Sir, I'm not very good at that. 1031 01:02:54,729 --> 01:02:55,563 - Go. 1032 01:03:10,311 --> 01:03:12,647 - How long have you been on the chat line, Mr. Wilson? 1033 01:03:15,583 --> 01:03:16,417 - Two months. 1034 01:03:18,486 --> 01:03:19,887 - And why were you on it? 1035 01:03:22,923 --> 01:03:24,191 Well, I work from home 1036 01:03:24,191 --> 01:03:27,128 and don't get a lot of chances to meet women. 1037 01:03:27,128 --> 01:03:30,931 I hate picking up in bars, so I figured I'd give it a try. 1038 01:03:33,467 --> 01:03:34,368 - Did you like it? 1039 01:03:35,870 --> 01:03:37,038 - Yeah. 1040 01:03:37,038 --> 01:03:38,039 Yes, I did. 1041 01:03:39,206 --> 01:03:43,177 I'm not a typical sexy guy in person, 1042 01:03:43,177 --> 01:03:44,812 but I found I could be online. 1043 01:03:49,050 --> 01:03:51,686 - Did you meet any other women besides Joan Chapman? 1044 01:03:53,954 --> 01:03:56,457 - No, she was the first one. 1045 01:03:56,457 --> 01:03:57,358 The only one. 1046 01:03:59,060 --> 01:03:59,960 Just my luck. 1047 01:04:01,729 --> 01:04:03,564 I talked to a few women on the line, 1048 01:04:03,564 --> 01:04:05,666 but none of them really wanted to meet up. 1049 01:04:06,867 --> 01:04:08,536 I think they were just playing games. 1050 01:04:09,337 --> 01:04:10,171 - All of them? 1051 01:04:11,706 --> 01:04:13,007 I mean, there wasn't even one woman 1052 01:04:13,007 --> 01:04:14,408 who wasn't playing a game? 1053 01:04:16,744 --> 01:04:19,914 - Well, actually there was one, a couple of weeks back, 1054 01:04:21,716 --> 01:04:24,618 thought we connected and thought that, yeah, 1055 01:04:24,618 --> 01:04:26,253 maybe this could be a real thing. 1056 01:04:27,621 --> 01:04:28,556 - Did you meet her? 1057 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,228 - No. 1058 01:04:34,228 --> 01:04:35,062 She stood me up. 1059 01:04:36,664 --> 01:04:40,634 She said it was a work thing, but, 1060 01:04:40,634 --> 01:04:42,436 I don't know I think she got scared. 1061 01:04:44,572 --> 01:04:45,673 - Scared how? 1062 01:04:49,810 --> 01:04:50,878 - Scared to show up. 1063 01:04:53,180 --> 01:04:54,648 Be her true self. 1064 01:05:02,323 --> 01:05:05,426 - Well, that's all for now, Mr. Wilson. 1065 01:05:06,527 --> 01:05:07,461 You'll please excuse me. 1066 01:05:13,667 --> 01:05:15,102 - I think we can charge him, 1067 01:05:15,102 --> 01:05:16,504 then we'll see if he cracks. 1068 01:05:17,371 --> 01:05:19,573 - Yeah, I'm in. 1069 01:05:19,573 --> 01:05:21,075 - We'll hold him for 24 hours, 1070 01:05:21,075 --> 01:05:23,778 then we'll question him again with his lawyer present. 1071 01:05:24,879 --> 01:05:26,046 Good job, detective. 1072 01:05:26,947 --> 01:05:27,815 - Thank you, sir. 1073 01:05:32,453 --> 01:05:33,921 - After a day like today, I need a drink. 1074 01:05:33,921 --> 01:05:34,755 How about you? 1075 01:05:35,823 --> 01:05:38,626 - No, I could use some sleep. 1076 01:05:38,626 --> 01:05:40,027 - Well, you've earned it. 1077 01:05:43,030 --> 01:05:45,032 All right, I'll see you tomorrow. 1078 01:05:45,032 --> 01:05:47,134 - Yeah, see you tomorrow. 1079 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:14,829 Hey Eddie, what's up? 1080 01:06:14,829 --> 01:06:16,297 Brenda, Jimmy's just out of his mind 1081 01:06:16,297 --> 01:06:18,132 and the cops are here to take him away. 1082 01:06:18,132 --> 01:06:19,834 - Okay, yeah, I'll be right there. 1083 01:06:47,661 --> 01:06:48,996 - Hey Brenda. 1084 01:06:48,996 --> 01:06:50,764 I don't know what, or why it happened, 1085 01:06:50,764 --> 01:06:54,935 but our friend over there had a little too much to drink. 1086 01:06:54,935 --> 01:06:56,170 They started freaking out 1087 01:06:56,170 --> 01:06:57,905 and started throwing punches at people. 1088 01:06:59,607 --> 01:07:02,243 Detective, your friend is here. 1089 01:07:02,243 --> 01:07:05,179 Hey, Brenda, what are you doing here? 1090 01:07:08,249 --> 01:07:10,117 - Look, we don't wanna arrest him 1091 01:07:10,117 --> 01:07:11,552 and Eddie here is cool. 1092 01:07:11,552 --> 01:07:13,287 So, it's all off the record. 1093 01:07:13,287 --> 01:07:15,556 - Fellas, let's go for a drink. 1094 01:07:15,556 --> 01:07:17,625 - No, no, they're on duty cowboy. 1095 01:07:18,859 --> 01:07:20,528 - Come on, let's get you back to the ranch. 1096 01:07:20,528 --> 01:07:21,428 Okay. 1097 01:07:21,428 --> 01:07:22,596 - Come on. 1098 01:07:22,596 --> 01:07:23,397 - Oh. - Let's go. 1099 01:07:23,397 --> 01:07:24,899 Let's get you some food. 1100 01:07:24,899 --> 01:07:25,900 Food? - Yeah. 1101 01:07:25,900 --> 01:07:27,167 Thanks Eddie. 1102 01:07:27,167 --> 01:07:29,503 I got it from here. 1103 01:07:29,503 --> 01:07:30,638 - Get some sleep Jimmy. 1104 01:07:33,874 --> 01:07:35,776 - So, what was that all about? 1105 01:07:36,644 --> 01:07:37,478 What happened? 1106 01:07:38,312 --> 01:07:39,146 - What happened? 1107 01:07:40,314 --> 01:07:42,883 I don't think you wanna know that, Brenda. 1108 01:07:42,883 --> 01:07:43,717 - And why not? 1109 01:07:45,986 --> 01:07:46,820 Jimmy. 1110 01:07:51,191 --> 01:07:53,127 I'm your partner and your friend. 1111 01:07:54,128 --> 01:07:55,996 You can tell me anything. 1112 01:07:55,996 --> 01:07:57,031 - Not this, 1113 01:07:59,233 --> 01:08:00,467 not this time. 1114 01:08:02,736 --> 01:08:04,939 We've been together for a long time, right? 1115 01:08:05,940 --> 01:08:09,343 What, like two years? 1116 01:08:09,343 --> 01:08:12,346 - Three, since we're police officers. 1117 01:08:14,982 --> 01:08:15,916 - Okay. 1118 01:08:15,916 --> 01:08:17,551 In those three, in those two, 1119 01:08:17,551 --> 01:08:19,219 in those three years, 1120 01:08:20,921 --> 01:08:21,755 have, 1121 01:08:23,557 --> 01:08:25,793 now you're a good looking woman, Brenda. 1122 01:08:25,793 --> 01:08:27,361 A mighty good looking woman. 1123 01:08:29,630 --> 01:08:31,799 Have I ever made the teeniest pass at you? 1124 01:08:33,100 --> 01:08:34,401 - No. 1125 01:08:34,401 --> 01:08:36,003 And I've respected you for that. 1126 01:08:37,404 --> 01:08:38,238 - Good. 1127 01:08:40,341 --> 01:08:41,408 - Remember that, aye? 1128 01:08:57,591 --> 01:08:59,293 Now you're good looking woman Brenda. 1129 01:08:59,293 --> 01:09:01,562 A mighty good looking woman. 1130 01:09:01,562 --> 01:09:03,664 Have I ever made the teeniest pass at you? 1131 01:09:36,497 --> 01:09:37,331 - Jimmy. 1132 01:09:41,635 --> 01:09:43,103 Yeah, so when I saw the ring, 1133 01:09:43,103 --> 01:09:45,673 I knew it was Jimmy who caused Joan Chapman's death. 1134 01:09:48,976 --> 01:09:50,911 Does Jimmy suspect you know? 1135 01:09:52,546 --> 01:09:53,514 - I don't think so. 1136 01:09:58,585 --> 01:10:01,288 Have you ever had to arrest someone close to you pops? 1137 01:10:02,489 --> 01:10:05,359 - Well, that's part of being a cop sweetheart. 1138 01:10:05,359 --> 01:10:06,193 But yes, 1139 01:10:07,561 --> 01:10:08,395 I have. 1140 01:10:11,298 --> 01:10:13,767 As you know, I grew up in the rough part of town. 1141 01:10:15,302 --> 01:10:18,939 My brother Ricky and I used to get into a lot of trouble, 1142 01:10:18,939 --> 01:10:19,773 B and E, 1143 01:10:21,008 --> 01:10:22,843 stealing cars, you know, stuff. 1144 01:10:23,977 --> 01:10:27,347 Before I got in to deep, I straightened out. 1145 01:10:27,347 --> 01:10:28,882 I became a police officer. 1146 01:10:30,751 --> 01:10:31,552 But Ricky, 1147 01:10:33,454 --> 01:10:35,756 and about three years after I became a cop, 1148 01:10:37,725 --> 01:10:39,393 I had to arrest my own brother 1149 01:10:41,695 --> 01:10:42,529 and I did. 1150 01:10:43,697 --> 01:10:45,132 - Wow, I didn't know that. 1151 01:10:46,633 --> 01:10:47,434 - Nobody did. 1152 01:10:48,802 --> 01:10:51,004 We made a deal not to tell mama, 1153 01:10:51,004 --> 01:10:53,073 or anybody else. 1154 01:10:53,073 --> 01:10:56,076 So, Ricky did his time, straightened out. 1155 01:10:56,076 --> 01:10:57,845 Thank God mama never found out, 1156 01:10:59,079 --> 01:11:00,247 she would've killed me. 1157 01:11:06,587 --> 01:11:08,689 I'm glad you came by this morning, sweetie. 1158 01:11:10,090 --> 01:11:12,860 I've been thinking a lot about Tony these last few days 1159 01:11:13,694 --> 01:11:17,998 and I've come to realize 1160 01:11:17,998 --> 01:11:20,334 that I put an enormous amount of pressure on him 1161 01:11:20,334 --> 01:11:22,169 to follow in my footsteps. 1162 01:11:25,105 --> 01:11:26,774 I always thought Tony was the strong one. 1163 01:11:26,774 --> 01:11:29,510 I didn't realize how sensitive he was underneath. 1164 01:11:32,379 --> 01:11:33,213 As for you, 1165 01:11:34,915 --> 01:11:37,351 I always thought you were just a sensitive one. 1166 01:11:38,886 --> 01:11:41,188 I didn't recognize how strong you are inside. 1167 01:11:43,624 --> 01:11:44,992 Both wonderful qualities. 1168 01:11:44,992 --> 01:11:46,059 Don't ever lose them, 1169 01:11:47,427 --> 01:11:49,496 because as a cop, you're gonna need them. 1170 01:12:04,311 --> 01:12:05,579 - So, how are you feeling? 1171 01:12:08,549 --> 01:12:10,217 - Probably about as bad as I look. 1172 01:12:12,886 --> 01:12:14,288 - What went down last night? 1173 01:12:15,722 --> 01:12:18,258 I asked you, but you never told me. 1174 01:12:18,258 --> 01:12:19,193 - I don't know. 1175 01:12:19,193 --> 01:12:19,927 Got down, had too much to drink. 1176 01:12:19,927 --> 01:12:20,761 No biggie. 1177 01:12:22,196 --> 01:12:25,632 - Having dangerous sex with a woman who dies is no biggie? 1178 01:12:29,303 --> 01:12:31,705 - I don't know what you're talking about. 1179 01:12:45,686 --> 01:12:46,520 - Jimmy. 1180 01:12:47,487 --> 01:12:48,589 It's me, 1181 01:12:48,589 --> 01:12:51,358 your partner, and your pal. 1182 01:12:52,726 --> 01:12:55,796 It was you on the elevator hiding your face. 1183 01:12:55,796 --> 01:12:57,264 - What are you talking about? 1184 01:12:58,365 --> 01:12:59,199 - Jimmy, 1185 01:13:00,334 --> 01:13:01,902 I need you to be straight with me now. 1186 01:13:19,987 --> 01:13:23,724 - I should have known I can never fool you Brenda. 1187 01:13:23,724 --> 01:13:24,558 - Okay. 1188 01:13:25,893 --> 01:13:27,227 Let's go to Mike's office. 1189 01:13:30,564 --> 01:13:32,366 - Met her at the Roundup. 1190 01:13:32,366 --> 01:13:33,834 We went back to her place. 1191 01:13:33,834 --> 01:13:36,870 She said all she wanted was hot sex and lots of it. 1192 01:13:36,870 --> 01:13:39,072 After that first time I tried to contact her again, 1193 01:13:39,072 --> 01:13:41,074 but she was always busy. 1194 01:13:41,074 --> 01:13:43,543 Then out of the blue, she phones me up 1195 01:13:43,543 --> 01:13:44,578 and invites me over. 1196 01:13:44,578 --> 01:13:45,646 Naturally I went. 1197 01:13:46,947 --> 01:13:50,550 I had no idea this Tom guy was there before me. 1198 01:13:55,289 --> 01:13:58,025 We start fooling around the usual stuff 1199 01:13:58,025 --> 01:14:00,427 and then she wants to do this EAPX thing, 1200 01:14:00,427 --> 01:14:01,795 just like Tom told us. 1201 01:14:02,896 --> 01:14:05,365 And so I started doing her from behind 1202 01:14:05,365 --> 01:14:07,834 and choking her with the scarf, 1203 01:14:07,834 --> 01:14:09,503 and she's saying "Tighter and tighter". 1204 01:14:09,503 --> 01:14:11,471 And then everything's just going so fast. 1205 01:14:11,471 --> 01:14:12,873 I didn't realize what I was doing. 1206 01:14:12,873 --> 01:14:14,808 "Tighter and tighter" she kept on saying 1207 01:14:14,808 --> 01:14:19,413 and we were both coming and then she was dead. 1208 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:21,415 - Jesus, Jimmy. 1209 01:14:24,151 --> 01:14:26,320 - I was a drunk cop. 1210 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,022 What do I know about all this weird shit she was into? 1211 01:14:30,724 --> 01:14:33,560 Anyway, I wiped down as many prints as I can remember, 1212 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,028 and then I beat it out the side door. 1213 01:14:35,028 --> 01:14:36,763 You guys know my reputation. 1214 01:14:36,763 --> 01:14:38,799 I've been on paid leave before. 1215 01:14:38,799 --> 01:14:40,033 One more strike against me, 1216 01:14:40,033 --> 01:14:41,635 then I'm finished in this department. 1217 01:14:41,635 --> 01:14:44,104 And that's why I pushed Mike to put us in charge, 1218 01:14:44,938 --> 01:14:46,139 so I could cover myself 1219 01:14:46,139 --> 01:14:47,975 and just make this case go away unsolved. 1220 01:14:56,083 --> 01:14:58,785 But I never counted on an innocent guy taking the rap. 1221 01:14:59,886 --> 01:15:02,089 - Well, we're probably looking at 1222 01:15:02,089 --> 01:15:03,490 death by misadventure Jimmy. 1223 01:15:04,691 --> 01:15:07,694 Hate to see that happen to a good cop like you. 1224 01:15:13,066 --> 01:15:14,501 Detective Roberto. 1225 01:15:14,501 --> 01:15:15,435 - Mr. Wilson. 1226 01:15:16,303 --> 01:15:17,137 - Hey. 1227 01:15:18,872 --> 01:15:20,107 Look, I just wanted to thank you 1228 01:15:20,107 --> 01:15:22,275 for helping me outta that mess back there. 1229 01:15:22,275 --> 01:15:24,444 - Yeah, well that's my job. 1230 01:15:24,444 --> 01:15:27,447 - Well, you didn't have to believe me, and I'm glad you did. 1231 01:15:28,882 --> 01:15:31,318 I felt like I could talk to you, like you understood. 1232 01:15:32,686 --> 01:15:34,621 I was just a lonely guy using this thing 1233 01:15:34,621 --> 01:15:36,690 as a way to communicate with these women. 1234 01:15:38,592 --> 01:15:39,726 But after all this, 1235 01:15:41,028 --> 01:15:42,963 I don't think I'm going back on the line. 1236 01:15:44,798 --> 01:15:48,168 - Yeah, well that sounds like a good idea. 1237 01:15:49,269 --> 01:15:50,670 Do you think you'll miss it? 1238 01:15:51,538 --> 01:15:52,372 - No. 1239 01:15:53,774 --> 01:15:57,077 Well, I maybe that one lady I was telling you about, 1240 01:15:57,077 --> 01:16:01,381 Sarah, we had a connection, but who knows? 1241 01:16:01,381 --> 01:16:05,752 She's probably some single mom with 17 kids, or something. 1242 01:16:05,752 --> 01:16:07,387 Who knows? 1243 01:16:07,387 --> 01:16:12,025 Anyway, thank you again, detective. 1244 01:16:29,409 --> 01:16:34,314 Detective, what's your first name, by the way? 1245 01:16:35,982 --> 01:16:36,817 - Brenda. 1246 01:16:37,851 --> 01:16:38,685 - Brenda. 1247 01:16:41,354 --> 01:16:43,623 I can't help the feeling that we've met before 1248 01:16:43,623 --> 01:16:45,725 and I just, I don't know where, or when. 1249 01:16:48,862 --> 01:16:51,765 - Well, I started off in traffic. 1250 01:16:51,765 --> 01:16:53,066 Maybe I gave you a ticket. 1251 01:16:54,434 --> 01:16:55,268 - Traffic 1252 01:16:56,336 --> 01:16:57,304 Yeah, maybe, 1253 01:16:58,939 --> 01:17:01,074 there's just something really familiar. 1254 01:17:01,074 --> 01:17:02,943 I don't know maybe t's your voice or, 1255 01:17:06,780 --> 01:17:08,248 is this your regular station? 1256 01:17:09,649 --> 01:17:12,919 - Yeah, I've been here for the past three years. 1257 01:17:15,489 --> 01:17:16,323 - Okay, well. 1258 01:17:22,362 --> 01:17:25,899 Okay, well, nice to meet you Brenda, 1259 01:17:25,899 --> 01:17:27,400 and thanks again. 1260 01:17:38,612 --> 01:17:41,248 So, Tom never knew that you were that Sarah 1261 01:17:41,248 --> 01:17:42,115 on the chat line? 1262 01:17:45,852 --> 01:17:46,686 - No. 1263 01:17:47,821 --> 01:17:49,890 - Brenda, the preamble to these dreams 1264 01:17:49,890 --> 01:17:53,160 started a few months ago with this investigation, 1265 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,795 but the dreams themselves just started recently. 1266 01:17:56,897 --> 01:17:58,365 Did anything else happen? 1267 01:17:59,599 --> 01:18:00,433 - Yes. 1268 01:18:03,703 --> 01:18:07,541 A couple of weeks ago I started dating this man. 1269 01:18:08,975 --> 01:18:10,043 He's wonderful. 1270 01:18:10,043 --> 01:18:12,812 He's kind and funny and smart, 1271 01:18:14,214 --> 01:18:17,584 but he's not very confident. 1272 01:18:18,852 --> 01:18:20,954 And after my experience with Tom, 1273 01:18:20,954 --> 01:18:23,089 I know that's the sort of man that I want 1274 01:18:25,325 --> 01:18:26,826 and that I need. 1275 01:18:26,826 --> 01:18:28,595 - But do you think you're being fair to yourself, 1276 01:18:28,595 --> 01:18:33,233 to expect this man to be like, Tom, is it fair to this man? 1277 01:18:35,101 --> 01:18:36,203 - That's just it. 1278 01:18:37,470 --> 01:18:39,873 I know that he can be strong like Tom, 1279 01:18:43,210 --> 01:18:44,511 because he is Tom. 1280 01:18:49,216 --> 01:18:51,885 I was coming out of the station one day 1281 01:18:51,885 --> 01:18:53,220 and there he was waiting 1282 01:18:56,089 --> 01:18:59,459 and one thing led to another and we started dating, 1283 01:19:02,062 --> 01:19:03,496 and then I started to fall in love. 1284 01:19:03,496 --> 01:19:05,599 Or, maybe I was already in love 1285 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,903 and then came the moment when sex became a possibility. 1286 01:19:12,172 --> 01:19:15,175 But I kept waiting for this confident Tom 1287 01:19:15,175 --> 01:19:17,110 that I knew on the phone to show up. 1288 01:19:19,279 --> 01:19:20,747 I knew he could be strong, 1289 01:19:20,747 --> 01:19:25,752 but I couldn't tell him how I knew that. 1290 01:19:27,621 --> 01:19:30,523 - Yes, he might have felt used, betrayed. 1291 01:19:32,392 --> 01:19:36,129 - How do I get the strong man that I first knew, 1292 01:19:41,167 --> 01:19:43,903 without telling him the whole truth? 1293 01:19:43,903 --> 01:19:45,972 - But tell him the truth. 1294 01:19:47,507 --> 01:19:50,910 Brenda, if you have an issue, any issue, 1295 01:19:52,045 --> 01:19:53,947 the best way to deal with it is to be honest 1296 01:19:53,947 --> 01:19:55,749 and to tackle it straight on. 1297 01:19:57,150 --> 01:19:58,918 Tell him everything. 1298 01:20:01,054 --> 01:20:02,022 Everything. 1299 01:20:08,228 --> 01:20:11,531 - Dear Tom, I know this email will come as a shock to you, 1300 01:20:11,531 --> 01:20:14,734 but please read on and don't make any assumptions 1301 01:20:14,734 --> 01:20:16,136 until you've read all of it. 1302 01:20:17,337 --> 01:20:20,440 You know me casually as Brenda a police officer, 1303 01:20:21,941 --> 01:20:26,313 but you also know me deeply and passionately as Sarah, 1304 01:20:26,313 --> 01:20:27,580 the lady on Night Talk. 1305 01:20:29,749 --> 01:20:31,217 As a police officer, 1306 01:20:31,217 --> 01:20:34,954 I had this plan of going undercover to solve a crime. 1307 01:20:36,556 --> 01:20:40,894 I had no intention of ever meeting anyone. 1308 01:20:40,894 --> 01:20:43,897 But then you and your passion came into my life, 1309 01:20:45,832 --> 01:20:50,403 your stories, your ability to let me surrender, 1310 01:20:50,403 --> 01:20:55,275 to feel, to feel free and let go. 1311 01:21:00,447 --> 01:21:01,848 I never experienced that. 1312 01:21:06,119 --> 01:21:07,987 So, if you can get past my betrayal 1313 01:21:07,987 --> 01:21:10,490 and come to me as that stranger on the roof, 1314 01:21:12,559 --> 01:21:17,564 who excited me and who made my imagination 1315 01:21:18,298 --> 01:21:19,399 explode with passion, 1316 01:21:22,035 --> 01:21:26,139 then my heart and my home's open to you. 1317 01:21:31,978 --> 01:21:32,812 Brenda. 1318 01:21:49,629 --> 01:21:50,897 Yes, Tom. 1319 01:21:50,897 --> 01:21:52,632 Here's the door to my heart. 1320 01:21:54,401 --> 01:21:56,836 And yes, the door is not locked. 1321 01:21:56,836 --> 01:22:00,173 It is open, just as it was in your story. 1322 01:22:14,521 --> 01:22:15,755 So come to me. 1323 01:22:15,755 --> 01:22:17,123 Take me now for real, 1324 01:22:17,123 --> 01:22:19,392 as you once did in fantasy, 1325 01:22:45,885 --> 01:22:46,719 I'm sorry. 1326 01:22:48,455 --> 01:22:49,956 It's okay. 1327 01:22:50,824 --> 01:22:51,658 I'm here. 1328 01:22:54,561 --> 01:22:55,728 - Take me Tom. 1329 01:23:57,023 --> 01:23:58,525 Oh Brenda. 1330 01:24:09,135 --> 01:24:10,637 I love you, Brenda. 1331 01:24:10,637 --> 01:24:12,138 Oh Tom. 1332 01:24:21,147 --> 01:24:21,981 Yes. 1333 01:24:23,550 --> 01:24:26,019 Oh God, I'm gonna come. 1334 01:24:26,019 --> 01:24:27,253 I'm gonna come. 1335 01:24:28,721 --> 01:24:29,822 Come. 1336 01:24:57,984 --> 01:24:58,818 Oh, Tom, 1337 01:25:00,486 --> 01:25:02,956 we found each other. 1338 01:25:02,956 --> 01:25:05,391 Yes, Brenda, we have. 95031

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