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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,208 --> 00:00:12,379 NARRATOR: February 12, 2009. 2 00:00:12,379 --> 00:00:14,314 Just outside Buffalo, New York. 3 00:00:20,620 --> 00:00:22,655 Gear down. 4 00:00:22,655 --> 00:00:23,656 Looks alive. 5 00:00:23,656 --> 00:00:24,491 Gear's down. 6 00:00:27,227 --> 00:00:29,129 [whimpers] 7 00:00:29,129 --> 00:00:30,196 Jesus Christ! 8 00:00:32,532 --> 00:00:33,833 [passengers screaming] 9 00:00:33,833 --> 00:00:36,136 The airplane entered an aerodynamic stall. 10 00:00:36,136 --> 00:00:38,238 [screaming] 11 00:00:38,238 --> 00:00:39,305 It did not recover. 12 00:00:42,242 --> 00:00:44,711 [sirens blaring] 13 00:00:47,247 --> 00:00:49,883 CLINT CROOKSHANKS: It was one of the grisliest, nastiest scenes 14 00:00:49,883 --> 00:00:51,584 that I think I've seen. 15 00:00:51,584 --> 00:00:53,853 NARRATOR: The crash of Continental Connection flight 16 00:00:53,853 --> 00:00:58,758 3407 would be one of the NTSB's most important in decades, 17 00:00:58,758 --> 00:01:01,528 and would see a grieving father fight for changes 18 00:01:01,528 --> 00:01:03,463 to the laws governing small airlines. 19 00:01:03,463 --> 00:01:05,298 JOHN KAUSNER: I'm focused and determined 20 00:01:05,298 --> 00:01:09,436 to change what exists, and not have another dad sitting here. 21 00:01:09,436 --> 00:01:10,437 FLIGHT ATTENDANT: Ladies and gentlemen, 22 00:01:10,437 --> 00:01:12,205 we are starting our approach. 23 00:01:12,205 --> 00:01:13,606 PILOT: We lost both engines. 24 00:01:13,606 --> 00:01:14,441 FLIGHT ATTENDANT: Put your mask over your nose. 25 00:01:14,441 --> 00:01:15,742 Emergency descent. 26 00:01:15,742 --> 00:01:17,377 Brace for impact! 27 00:01:43,770 --> 00:01:45,004 NARRATOR: Continental Connection flight 28 00:01:45,004 --> 00:01:49,943 3407, operated by Colgan Air, is en route from Newark, New 29 00:01:49,943 --> 00:01:51,544 Jersey, to Buffalo, New York. 30 00:01:55,281 --> 00:01:58,651 It's been a busy flight for Captain Marvin Renslow. 31 00:01:58,651 --> 00:02:00,920 He's providing guidance to a new first officer, 32 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,258 Rebecca Shaw, a former flight instructor from Seattle. 33 00:02:05,258 --> 00:02:07,227 [sneezes] 34 00:02:07,227 --> 00:02:08,761 Bless you. 35 00:02:08,761 --> 00:02:09,829 NARRATOR: Shaw's only been with the airline 36 00:02:09,829 --> 00:02:10,930 for just over a year. 37 00:02:10,930 --> 00:02:12,932 Yeah. 38 00:02:12,932 --> 00:02:15,802 NARRATOR: She must decide if she now wants to become a captain. 39 00:02:15,802 --> 00:02:19,205 I don't know what I want to do with the upgrade. 40 00:02:19,205 --> 00:02:20,507 It depends where I'm based. 41 00:02:20,507 --> 00:02:22,775 Well, think of it this way. 42 00:02:22,775 --> 00:02:24,511 If you stayed on the queue, obviously, 43 00:02:24,511 --> 00:02:25,945 you're not making the captain rate. 44 00:02:25,945 --> 00:02:27,647 Right. 45 00:02:27,647 --> 00:02:29,249 But you may have a better quality of life, 46 00:02:29,249 --> 00:02:30,950 with regards to buying a house, having a schedule-- 47 00:02:30,950 --> 00:02:32,819 NARRATOR: Shaw trained to be a first officer 48 00:02:32,819 --> 00:02:37,323 on the plane they're flying now, a Canadian-made Bombardier 49 00:02:37,323 --> 00:02:39,826 Q400. 50 00:02:39,826 --> 00:02:42,362 It's a twin engine, popular with regional airlines. 51 00:02:46,533 --> 00:02:48,835 The 45 passengers have had a long night. 52 00:02:51,804 --> 00:02:54,874 Their plane was held up for two hours at Newark-- 53 00:02:54,874 --> 00:02:57,510 a delay considerably longer than their journey. 54 00:02:59,779 --> 00:03:02,515 Flight 3407 is heading northwest, 55 00:03:02,515 --> 00:03:05,552 over upstate New York. 56 00:03:05,552 --> 00:03:07,554 The trip is only 53 minutes. 57 00:03:11,024 --> 00:03:14,394 Visibility is poor, and there's a forecast of snow 58 00:03:14,394 --> 00:03:15,695 and moderate winds in Buffalo. 59 00:03:21,401 --> 00:03:23,269 Just some water, please. 60 00:03:23,269 --> 00:03:25,672 NARRATOR: Ellyce Kausner is a student at Florida Coastal 61 00:03:25,672 --> 00:03:27,507 School of Law in Jacksonville. 62 00:03:30,977 --> 00:03:34,447 She's on her way to visit her family in Buffalo. 63 00:03:34,447 --> 00:03:36,749 JOHN KAUSNER: She had five nieces and nephews at the time, 64 00:03:36,749 --> 00:03:39,686 and they had a love luncheon at the kids' school 65 00:03:39,686 --> 00:03:41,554 with a couple of the nephews. 66 00:03:41,554 --> 00:03:44,857 And they both wanted Elly be their guest. 67 00:03:44,857 --> 00:03:47,760 Any excuse to come home, she came home. 68 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:48,928 She talked to all of us from Newark. 69 00:03:48,928 --> 00:03:49,996 Hey. 70 00:03:49,996 --> 00:03:51,598 JOHN KAUSNER: And she called us from the lounge. 71 00:03:51,598 --> 00:03:53,066 Yeah, it's been over two hours. 72 00:03:53,066 --> 00:03:55,602 JOHN KAUSNER: She was PO'd because of the delay. 73 00:03:59,339 --> 00:04:02,709 Folks from the flight deck, your first officer speaking. 74 00:04:02,709 --> 00:04:05,478 It looks like, at this time, we're about 10, 75 00:04:05,478 --> 00:04:08,448 maybe 15 minutes outside of Buffalo. 76 00:04:08,448 --> 00:04:11,417 Weather in Buffalo is pretty foggy. 77 00:04:11,417 --> 00:04:13,419 It's snowing a little bit there. 78 00:04:13,419 --> 00:04:15,321 I'd like to make sure everyone remains in their seats, 79 00:04:15,321 --> 00:04:17,924 so the flight attendants can prepare the cabin for arrival. 80 00:04:17,924 --> 00:04:20,827 Thank you. 81 00:04:20,827 --> 00:04:25,632 FLIGHT DECK: Colgan 3407, descend and maintain, 2,300. 82 00:04:25,632 --> 00:04:27,467 REBECCA SHAW: OK, down to 2,300. 83 00:04:27,467 --> 00:04:31,971 Colgan 3407. 84 00:04:31,971 --> 00:04:35,008 Let's do a descent checklist, please. 85 00:04:35,008 --> 00:04:37,076 We can do the approach checklist along with it. 86 00:04:37,076 --> 00:04:38,411 Sure. 87 00:04:38,411 --> 00:04:39,812 Bug set. 88 00:04:39,812 --> 00:04:41,648 Set. 89 00:04:41,648 --> 00:04:45,985 GPWS, landing flaps selected, 15 degrees. 90 00:04:45,985 --> 00:04:47,220 NARRATOR: The pilots go through a list 91 00:04:47,220 --> 00:04:51,457 of settings for the plane to continue its landing approach. 92 00:04:51,457 --> 00:04:54,093 Yup. 93 00:04:54,093 --> 00:04:56,095 NARRATOR: Passengers can already glimpse the lights 94 00:04:56,095 --> 00:04:56,796 of Buffalo's suburbs. 95 00:04:59,499 --> 00:05:02,669 Clarence Center is on the approach path for aircraft 96 00:05:02,669 --> 00:05:03,970 landing at Buffalo's airport. 97 00:05:17,150 --> 00:05:19,852 Gear down. 98 00:05:19,852 --> 00:05:21,154 Looks alive. 99 00:05:21,154 --> 00:05:22,588 Gear's down. 100 00:05:22,588 --> 00:05:23,423 All right. 101 00:05:23,423 --> 00:05:24,924 Flaps 15. 102 00:05:24,924 --> 00:05:26,826 NARRATOR: Extending the flaps provides 103 00:05:26,826 --> 00:05:29,462 more lift, allowing the plane to slow 104 00:05:29,462 --> 00:05:32,932 to its final approach speed. 105 00:05:32,932 --> 00:05:36,936 Uh-- [whimpers] 106 00:05:36,936 --> 00:05:38,071 Jesus Christ! 107 00:05:38,071 --> 00:05:40,673 NARRATOR: Suddenly, the control column starts to shake. 108 00:05:44,577 --> 00:05:46,779 The Q400 is slipping out of control. 109 00:05:49,816 --> 00:05:52,018 [passengers screaming] 110 00:05:52,018 --> 00:05:56,055 Captain Renslow struggles to keep his plane flying. 111 00:05:56,055 --> 00:05:58,891 Mother-- ah! 112 00:05:58,891 --> 00:06:00,827 NARRATOR: But it seems to have a mind of its own. 113 00:06:05,531 --> 00:06:08,668 [shaw yelling] 114 00:06:11,571 --> 00:06:14,540 [passengers screaming] 115 00:06:17,577 --> 00:06:18,044 Mother bear. 116 00:06:22,849 --> 00:06:25,184 Should the gear be up? 117 00:06:25,184 --> 00:06:28,054 Gear up! 118 00:06:28,054 --> 00:06:29,021 Agh, damn! 119 00:06:34,627 --> 00:06:35,595 Ah, we're down! 120 00:06:35,595 --> 00:06:38,564 [screaming] 121 00:06:38,564 --> 00:06:39,732 Oh, my god! 122 00:06:45,571 --> 00:06:51,644 NARRATOR: The plane crashes into a house at 6038 Long Street. 123 00:06:51,644 --> 00:06:53,746 At air traffic control in Buffalo, 124 00:06:53,746 --> 00:06:59,051 flight 3407 disappears from radar. 125 00:06:59,051 --> 00:07:01,621 DAVID CASE: I'll never forget the dispatcher's words. 126 00:07:01,621 --> 00:07:02,989 Plane crash, house on fire. 127 00:07:02,989 --> 00:07:07,260 I immediately got my shoes on and my coat on. 128 00:07:07,260 --> 00:07:12,498 Got in my truck and started heading down the driveway. 129 00:07:12,498 --> 00:07:15,134 NARRATOR: Firefighters don't have far to go. 130 00:07:15,134 --> 00:07:18,504 6038 Long Street, home of the Wielinski family, 131 00:07:18,504 --> 00:07:22,041 is less than a block from the Clarence Center Station. 132 00:07:22,041 --> 00:07:24,811 As I turned towards the village, 133 00:07:24,811 --> 00:07:26,913 the whole village was aglow. 134 00:07:26,913 --> 00:07:28,281 You could see the smoke. 135 00:07:28,281 --> 00:07:31,117 You could see the flame. 136 00:07:31,117 --> 00:07:32,752 NARRATOR: Karen Wielinski and her daughter 137 00:07:32,752 --> 00:07:34,954 make it out of their house alive. 138 00:07:34,954 --> 00:07:36,789 But her husband, Douglas, is killed. 139 00:07:39,091 --> 00:07:41,594 My initial reaction was, there's no-- 140 00:07:41,594 --> 00:07:44,831 there was no way that somebody made it out. 141 00:07:44,831 --> 00:07:47,266 But the EMS, the division reported 142 00:07:47,266 --> 00:07:49,635 that they had two people, and they were 143 00:07:49,635 --> 00:07:50,970 taking them to the hospital. 144 00:07:50,970 --> 00:07:52,839 And I said, well, which firefighters are they? 145 00:07:52,839 --> 00:07:54,674 And they said, they're not firefighters, Chief. 146 00:07:54,674 --> 00:07:56,542 They are survivors from the house. 147 00:07:56,542 --> 00:07:58,244 I actually physically had to go to the ambulance 148 00:07:58,244 --> 00:08:01,814 and look inside for myself to to believe. 149 00:08:01,814 --> 00:08:06,319 NARRATOR: Firefighters have never seen a blaze like this. 150 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:08,654 DAVID CASE: But if you've ever gone to a bonfire 151 00:08:08,654 --> 00:08:13,259 and stood 5 feet from it, and you couldn't take it anymore, 152 00:08:13,259 --> 00:08:17,296 that's what it felt like from 100 feet away. 153 00:08:17,296 --> 00:08:19,165 MICHAEL ROGOWSKI: The height of it was 154 00:08:19,165 --> 00:08:21,734 was just unbelievable, obviously, because of the fuel 155 00:08:21,734 --> 00:08:24,036 that was probably added to it. 156 00:08:24,036 --> 00:08:27,039 And the debris area was was very large. 157 00:08:27,039 --> 00:08:31,277 It was a very, very horrific sight. 158 00:08:31,277 --> 00:08:32,845 We live in the town where the plane 159 00:08:32,845 --> 00:08:34,146 went down right down the road. 160 00:08:34,146 --> 00:08:36,582 My son was driving home from a soccer game 161 00:08:36,582 --> 00:08:40,219 and went right by the plane crash, and called me up 162 00:08:40,219 --> 00:08:41,454 and said, there's a plane down in Clarence. 163 00:08:41,454 --> 00:08:45,992 It never really entered our brain that it was Elly's plane. 164 00:08:45,992 --> 00:08:48,694 NARRATOR: Flight 3407 has crashed 5 165 00:08:48,694 --> 00:08:51,330 miles short of Buffalo Airport. 166 00:08:51,330 --> 00:08:55,167 All 49 passengers and crew are dead, 167 00:08:55,167 --> 00:08:58,204 including Captain Marvin Renslow And First officer Rebecca Shaw. 168 00:09:02,308 --> 00:09:05,611 But many more people could easily have been killed. 169 00:09:05,611 --> 00:09:07,013 You picture a house. 170 00:09:07,013 --> 00:09:10,049 And to see a plane on top of this house-- 171 00:09:10,049 --> 00:09:12,051 no more house left, no more plane. 172 00:09:12,051 --> 00:09:13,853 Only the tail section. 173 00:09:13,853 --> 00:09:19,025 You're asking yourself, how in god's creation did this happen, 174 00:09:19,025 --> 00:09:23,629 and not wipe the whole block out? 175 00:09:23,629 --> 00:09:25,197 JOHN KAUSNER: The next call was again from my son, 176 00:09:25,197 --> 00:09:27,133 and said, in fact, it was Elly's plane. 177 00:09:27,133 --> 00:09:28,834 And he said, Dad, there's no survivors. 178 00:09:31,404 --> 00:09:36,676 At which point, my wife shrieked and just hit the ground. 179 00:09:36,676 --> 00:09:38,778 Chris said he'd never heard his mother make a sound like that, 180 00:09:38,778 --> 00:09:40,980 and I hope he never does again. 181 00:09:40,980 --> 00:09:43,783 So that's when I knew that she was gone. 182 00:09:43,783 --> 00:09:46,218 And that was probably within 45 minutes of the accident. 183 00:09:51,190 --> 00:09:52,658 NARRATOR: The scene in the morning 184 00:09:52,658 --> 00:09:54,226 is one of utter devastation. 185 00:09:57,263 --> 00:09:59,899 Clint Crookshanks from the NTSB. 186 00:09:59,899 --> 00:10:01,667 Can I start poking around? 187 00:10:01,667 --> 00:10:03,703 NARRATOR: Clint Crookshanks is one of the first Investigators 188 00:10:03,703 --> 00:10:05,304 on the case. 189 00:10:05,304 --> 00:10:06,839 CLINT CROOKSHANKS: When we arrived on scene, 190 00:10:06,839 --> 00:10:08,341 there was a fire still burning. 191 00:10:08,341 --> 00:10:10,443 It turns out it was from a gas line that 192 00:10:10,443 --> 00:10:12,178 had been broken in the house. 193 00:10:12,178 --> 00:10:13,746 The firemen would put the fire out, 194 00:10:13,746 --> 00:10:17,316 and it would reignite every couple of minutes. 195 00:10:17,316 --> 00:10:20,419 It was one of the grisliest, nastiest scenes 196 00:10:20,419 --> 00:10:21,253 that I think I've seen. 197 00:10:24,423 --> 00:10:27,994 NARRATOR: Flight 3407 may have been a small plane, 198 00:10:27,994 --> 00:10:32,298 but it's the worst crash in the US in more than seven years. 199 00:10:32,298 --> 00:10:37,069 It will become one of the NTSB's most important investigations. 200 00:10:50,108 --> 00:10:52,276 preventing investigators from examining the wreckage. 201 00:10:59,951 --> 00:11:01,119 Right in there. 202 00:11:01,119 --> 00:11:02,320 That's where I think the-- 203 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,221 the box-- 204 00:11:03,221 --> 00:11:04,956 The airplane had crashed into a house, 205 00:11:04,956 --> 00:11:06,491 and then it had burned all night long. 206 00:11:06,491 --> 00:11:09,827 So all the debris was basically in the house. 207 00:11:09,827 --> 00:11:11,763 LORENDA WARD: Our concern is that we're losing evidence. 208 00:11:11,763 --> 00:11:13,364 It's perishable. 209 00:11:13,364 --> 00:11:15,400 And if we can't get in there and get the fire out, 210 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,336 then we're not able to maybe get a hold 211 00:11:18,336 --> 00:11:21,339 of evidence that might help us during the investigation. 212 00:11:21,339 --> 00:11:23,341 NARRATOR: Clint Crookshanks urgently 213 00:11:23,341 --> 00:11:25,243 needs to recover the black box flight 214 00:11:25,243 --> 00:11:28,012 recorders, which could contain valuable clues 215 00:11:28,012 --> 00:11:29,480 about the accident. 216 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,849 We knew that the recorders were in the tail part 217 00:11:31,849 --> 00:11:33,384 of the airplane. 218 00:11:33,384 --> 00:11:34,452 NARRATOR: Ordinarily, investigators 219 00:11:34,452 --> 00:11:38,423 don't go near a crash site that's still burning. 220 00:11:38,423 --> 00:11:40,892 But if the black boxes can't be rescued, 221 00:11:40,892 --> 00:11:45,963 they may never find out what brought down flight 3407. 222 00:11:45,963 --> 00:11:49,333 We started looking around and poking around into the wreckage 223 00:11:49,333 --> 00:11:53,337 and actually found out where they were. 224 00:11:53,337 --> 00:11:53,971 OK, whoa, whoa. 225 00:11:53,971 --> 00:11:56,441 It's probably in here, OK? 226 00:11:56,441 --> 00:11:58,342 The access panel is on the other side, 227 00:11:58,342 --> 00:12:00,478 so we're going to have to cut a hole right there. 228 00:12:00,478 --> 00:12:02,113 OK? 229 00:12:02,113 --> 00:12:03,548 The fire department produced a chop saw. 230 00:12:03,548 --> 00:12:07,485 We were able to cut a hole in the side of the fuselage, 231 00:12:07,485 --> 00:12:12,256 and go in and grab the recorders and pull them out. 232 00:12:12,256 --> 00:12:12,757 All right. 233 00:12:12,757 --> 00:12:13,925 That should do it. 234 00:12:16,494 --> 00:12:18,229 NARRATOR: To the immense relief of all, 235 00:12:18,229 --> 00:12:21,432 the recorders are undamaged. 236 00:12:21,432 --> 00:12:23,901 Once we took the recorders out of the airplane, 237 00:12:23,901 --> 00:12:26,437 we put them on the jet, and they were flown back to Washington, 238 00:12:26,437 --> 00:12:28,239 DC, to our headquarters. 239 00:12:31,442 --> 00:12:35,313 NARRATOR: Now, investigators are faced with a new hurdle. 240 00:12:35,313 --> 00:12:37,448 What little is left of the aircraft 241 00:12:37,448 --> 00:12:41,018 is hopelessly jumbled together with human remains and debris 242 00:12:41,018 --> 00:12:42,987 from the house. 243 00:12:42,987 --> 00:12:44,455 CLINT CROOKSHANKS: It all burned and settled into the basement. 244 00:12:44,455 --> 00:12:47,158 So we had probably 10 feet of debris 245 00:12:47,158 --> 00:12:48,993 that we had to dig through in order 246 00:12:48,993 --> 00:12:52,463 to recover all of the airplane. 247 00:12:52,463 --> 00:12:54,298 NARRATOR: Authorities wonder how they 248 00:12:54,298 --> 00:12:57,034 can salvage any useful evidence from this chaos. 249 00:13:00,872 --> 00:13:04,842 They get invaluable assistance from an unusual source. 250 00:13:04,842 --> 00:13:08,012 A group of students learning to process crime scenes 251 00:13:08,012 --> 00:13:10,248 is enlisted to separate human remains 252 00:13:10,248 --> 00:13:13,618 from the rest of the debris. 253 00:13:13,618 --> 00:13:15,486 CLINT CROOKSHANKS: They were graduate students 254 00:13:15,486 --> 00:13:18,456 from a local college, forensic anthropology students. 255 00:13:18,456 --> 00:13:20,024 And this was good experience for them 256 00:13:20,024 --> 00:13:21,259 to come dig through wreckage like this 257 00:13:21,259 --> 00:13:23,161 and look for human remains. 258 00:13:23,161 --> 00:13:25,363 So landing gear over there, please. 259 00:13:25,363 --> 00:13:27,365 NARRATOR: It's dirty painstaking work. 260 00:13:27,365 --> 00:13:29,867 But it frees up investigators to concentrate 261 00:13:29,867 --> 00:13:32,270 on the aircraft ruins. 262 00:13:32,270 --> 00:13:33,504 We were on our hands and knees, 263 00:13:33,504 --> 00:13:36,040 with brooms, with little shovels, 264 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,276 scooping out debris, identifying it 265 00:13:38,276 --> 00:13:40,645 as to house debris or airplane debris, 266 00:13:40,645 --> 00:13:42,313 and then putting it in different piles. 267 00:13:45,883 --> 00:13:48,586 The first question for me, as a structures engineer, 268 00:13:48,586 --> 00:13:50,321 is to figure out if the whole airplane made 269 00:13:50,321 --> 00:13:54,058 it to the scene of the crash. 270 00:13:54,058 --> 00:13:56,360 NARRATOR: The wreckage is carefully studied to determine 271 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,229 if the plane's four corners-- 272 00:13:58,229 --> 00:14:00,998 nose, tail, and both wingtips-- are present. 273 00:14:06,037 --> 00:14:08,973 If we find all four corners of the airplane, then we know that 274 00:14:08,973 --> 00:14:10,975 there was no in-flight breakup. 275 00:14:10,975 --> 00:14:12,910 There was nothing that departed the airplane 276 00:14:12,910 --> 00:14:15,646 during the flight that may have caused the accident. 277 00:14:15,646 --> 00:14:18,482 NARRATOR: One wing has been consumed by fire. 278 00:14:18,482 --> 00:14:20,918 The other is shattered into pieces. 279 00:14:20,918 --> 00:14:21,619 Hey! 280 00:14:21,619 --> 00:14:22,787 Have a look at this! 281 00:14:22,787 --> 00:14:25,156 NARRATOR: But Investigators are gradually finding what 282 00:14:25,156 --> 00:14:26,324 they've been searching for. 283 00:14:26,324 --> 00:14:28,526 Oh, yeah, it's the last piece. 284 00:14:28,526 --> 00:14:29,594 It's the left one. 285 00:14:29,594 --> 00:14:31,562 CLINT CROOKSHANKS: It wasn't until several days 286 00:14:31,562 --> 00:14:33,531 into the investigation, as we were scraping away some 287 00:14:33,531 --> 00:14:35,466 of the debris, that we actually found evidence 288 00:14:35,466 --> 00:14:38,402 of the left wing and the nose. 289 00:14:38,402 --> 00:14:40,538 NARRATOR: Investigators now have all the pieces 290 00:14:40,538 --> 00:14:43,674 they need to conclude that the entire plane is 291 00:14:43,674 --> 00:14:45,409 at the crash site. 292 00:14:45,409 --> 00:14:48,079 Whatever caused the disaster was not the result 293 00:14:48,079 --> 00:14:49,213 of a breakup in flight. 294 00:14:57,121 --> 00:15:01,259 The tragedy of flight 3407 is under intense scrutiny at 295 00:15:01,259 --> 00:15:04,061 the NTSB offices in Washington. 296 00:15:04,061 --> 00:15:07,265 Officials there try to determine if some kind of malfunction 297 00:15:07,265 --> 00:15:09,433 caused the crash. 298 00:15:09,433 --> 00:15:10,735 On this particular accident, we 299 00:15:10,735 --> 00:15:12,536 knew it was a landing accident. 300 00:15:12,536 --> 00:15:15,139 So we want to check the aircraft's performance, 301 00:15:15,139 --> 00:15:18,409 and then also, we checked for flight control continuity. 302 00:15:18,409 --> 00:15:20,111 NARRATOR: Much of this responsibility 303 00:15:20,111 --> 00:15:22,246 falls to Scott Warren. 304 00:15:22,246 --> 00:15:23,981 SCOTT WARREN: My role in the investigation 305 00:15:23,981 --> 00:15:27,151 was to be the systems group chairman for the Safety Board, 306 00:15:27,151 --> 00:15:32,023 so I was in charge of looking at all of the aircraft systems. 307 00:15:32,023 --> 00:15:34,292 NARRATOR: Warren analyzes the aircraft's cockpit voice 308 00:15:34,292 --> 00:15:38,262 recorder, or CVR, to determine if there were any indications 309 00:15:38,262 --> 00:15:39,664 of a problem in the cockpit. 310 00:15:39,664 --> 00:15:40,364 REBECCA SHAW (ON RECORDING): Flight attendants can 311 00:15:40,364 --> 00:15:42,066 prepare the cabin for arrival. 312 00:15:42,066 --> 00:15:44,302 Thank you. 313 00:15:44,302 --> 00:15:47,204 Is that ice on the windshield? 314 00:15:47,204 --> 00:15:50,141 NARRATOR: He discovers that six minutes before the crash, 315 00:15:50,141 --> 00:15:54,011 the crew of Flight 3407 had noticed a buildup of ice 316 00:15:54,011 --> 00:15:55,446 on the aircraft. 317 00:15:55,446 --> 00:15:57,081 MARVIN RENSLOW (ON RECORDING): Got it on my side. 318 00:15:57,081 --> 00:15:59,583 You don't have yours? 319 00:15:59,583 --> 00:16:01,452 Oh, yeah. 320 00:16:01,452 --> 00:16:03,120 Oh, it's lots of ice. 321 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,658 NARRATOR: Ice can be a deadly threat to any airplane. 322 00:16:07,658 --> 00:16:09,660 SCOTT WARREN: If an aircraft has ice on it, 323 00:16:09,660 --> 00:16:11,595 it will have more drag on it, so it'll require more power 324 00:16:11,595 --> 00:16:13,631 to maintain a given airspeed. 325 00:16:17,301 --> 00:16:19,070 MARVIN RENSLOW: Oh, yeah. 326 00:16:19,070 --> 00:16:21,138 That's the most I've seen on the leading edges in a long time. 327 00:16:21,138 --> 00:16:24,342 NARRATOR: Until a year ago, Rebecca Shaw had no experience 328 00:16:24,342 --> 00:16:26,544 with ice on an aircraft. 329 00:16:26,544 --> 00:16:29,146 I'd never seen icing conditions. 330 00:16:29,146 --> 00:16:30,514 Never de-iced. 331 00:16:30,514 --> 00:16:33,384 Never experienced any of that. 332 00:16:33,384 --> 00:16:35,786 ROGER COX: When ice accretes on a wing, 333 00:16:35,786 --> 00:16:39,123 it adds weight to the airplane, but most importantly, it 334 00:16:39,123 --> 00:16:40,691 changes the shape of the wing. 335 00:16:40,691 --> 00:16:43,294 And of course, it's the shape-- the curved shape of the wing-- 336 00:16:43,294 --> 00:16:44,662 that actually creates the lip. 337 00:16:44,662 --> 00:16:47,732 So by changing the lift characteristics 338 00:16:47,732 --> 00:16:51,302 of the airplane, it makes it less able to fly. 339 00:16:51,302 --> 00:16:53,070 You know, I'd have freaked out. 340 00:16:53,070 --> 00:16:57,375 Like, I'd have seen this much ice and thought, oh my gosh, 341 00:16:57,375 --> 00:16:59,677 we were going to crash. 342 00:16:59,677 --> 00:17:00,878 [sighs] 343 00:17:00,878 --> 00:17:03,180 ROGER COX: Observing that there was ice on the airplane 344 00:17:03,180 --> 00:17:04,749 was an important thing to do. 345 00:17:04,749 --> 00:17:06,751 But then, it would be important to turn 346 00:17:06,751 --> 00:17:09,520 around and verify that your anti-ice and de-ice equipment 347 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,621 was on. 348 00:17:10,621 --> 00:17:13,224 And there was no indication on the voice recorder 349 00:17:13,224 --> 00:17:15,760 that they actually rechecked. 350 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,661 NARRATOR: The CVR reveals that only minutes 351 00:17:17,661 --> 00:17:20,531 after the crew detected ice, a device called 352 00:17:20,531 --> 00:17:22,366 the stick shaker went off. 353 00:17:22,366 --> 00:17:24,201 [rebecca shaw yelling] 354 00:17:24,201 --> 00:17:27,338 It was a warning that the plane was about to stall, literally, 355 00:17:27,338 --> 00:17:28,539 to fall out of the sky. 356 00:17:31,509 --> 00:17:35,880 Shortly afterwards, the aircraft did precisely that. 357 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,616 [screaming] 358 00:17:40,718 --> 00:17:42,253 We know there were icing conditions. 359 00:17:42,253 --> 00:17:44,221 The only question was, were they bad 360 00:17:44,221 --> 00:17:48,292 enough to induce this airplane to have a failure? 361 00:17:48,292 --> 00:17:50,227 NARRATOR: Ice is now the chief suspect 362 00:17:50,227 --> 00:17:53,531 in the crash of Flight 3407. 363 00:17:53,531 --> 00:17:56,400 If it's ice, let's prove it. 364 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:57,435 CLINT CROOKSHANKS: We were all convinced 365 00:17:57,435 --> 00:17:59,470 that we had an icing accident. 366 00:17:59,470 --> 00:18:01,772 We said, yeah, it's going to be an icing accident. 367 00:18:01,772 --> 00:18:04,575 We just got to make sure we look for these few key aspects 368 00:18:04,575 --> 00:18:08,212 of icing, verify that, and we're good. 369 00:18:08,212 --> 00:18:10,448 NARRATOR: But some of the victim's family members 370 00:18:10,448 --> 00:18:12,249 are less convinced. 371 00:18:12,249 --> 00:18:14,885 Our initial thought was that it was an ice-related incident, 372 00:18:14,885 --> 00:18:17,655 that it was the icy night that brought the plane down. 373 00:18:17,655 --> 00:18:21,158 And as we began to talk to people who knew airline travel, 374 00:18:21,158 --> 00:18:24,395 who were pilots themselves, they would look kind of askance 375 00:18:24,395 --> 00:18:25,362 and say, I don't think so. 376 00:18:25,362 --> 00:18:28,165 That doesn't make sense. 377 00:18:28,165 --> 00:18:31,502 NARRATOR: Some investigators share that suspicion. 378 00:18:31,502 --> 00:18:33,871 Scott Warren knows a plane like the Q400 379 00:18:33,871 --> 00:18:37,741 has a sophisticated de-icing system. 380 00:18:37,741 --> 00:18:39,643 It's designed to keep ice from building 381 00:18:39,643 --> 00:18:42,313 up on the wings and other critical parts of the aircraft. 382 00:18:45,683 --> 00:18:47,918 To prevent ice accumulating, the plane 383 00:18:47,918 --> 00:18:50,354 has rubber bladders along the front of the wings, 384 00:18:50,354 --> 00:18:52,790 called de-icing boots. 385 00:18:52,790 --> 00:18:55,759 A series of valves uses air from the engines 386 00:18:55,759 --> 00:18:59,530 to inflate the boots and crack the ice off the wing. 387 00:18:59,530 --> 00:19:02,967 Those boots are designed to inflate periodically. 388 00:19:02,967 --> 00:19:07,838 And that inflation breaks off the ice that's accumulated 389 00:19:07,838 --> 00:19:09,673 on those leading edges. 390 00:19:09,673 --> 00:19:13,544 NARRATOR: Warren now wonders if the crew of flight 3407 391 00:19:13,544 --> 00:19:17,414 actually turned on their de-icing equipment. 392 00:19:17,414 --> 00:19:20,851 He studies data from the plane's other black box, its flight 393 00:19:20,851 --> 00:19:23,954 data recorder, or FDR. 394 00:19:23,954 --> 00:19:26,824 It tracks the workings of crucial aircraft systems, 395 00:19:26,824 --> 00:19:30,828 including the de-icing mechanism. 396 00:19:30,828 --> 00:19:32,796 SCOTT WARREN: We know from the FDR data 397 00:19:32,796 --> 00:19:35,866 that the deicing system had been selected on by the crew. 398 00:19:35,866 --> 00:19:39,503 And it was on during the majority of the flight, 399 00:19:39,503 --> 00:19:40,804 and certainly, at the end of the flight, 400 00:19:40,804 --> 00:19:44,375 it was recorded in the on position. 401 00:19:44,375 --> 00:19:47,344 NARRATOR: But now, Warren needs to figure out if the device was 402 00:19:47,344 --> 00:19:49,346 actually working. 403 00:19:49,346 --> 00:19:50,848 SCOTT WARREN: Just because the data records that the system is 404 00:19:50,848 --> 00:19:53,684 on, that's a start, but you can't necessarily believe 405 00:19:53,684 --> 00:19:55,853 that one piece of information. 406 00:19:55,853 --> 00:19:57,688 NARRATOR: The only way to know is 407 00:19:57,688 --> 00:20:00,457 to find what remains of the plane's de-icing system, 408 00:20:00,457 --> 00:20:05,863 and determine if it was active when the aircraft went down. 409 00:20:05,863 --> 00:20:08,899 Clint Crookshanks' team hunts for a crucial component 410 00:20:08,899 --> 00:20:09,833 of the system-- 411 00:20:09,833 --> 00:20:10,801 the valves. 412 00:20:10,801 --> 00:20:12,736 Excuse me. 413 00:20:12,736 --> 00:20:13,237 OK. 414 00:20:13,237 --> 00:20:14,905 Everyone, I just-- 415 00:20:14,905 --> 00:20:15,739 CLINT CROOKSHANKS: For the de-ice valves, 416 00:20:15,739 --> 00:20:17,408 we said, here's what it looks like. 417 00:20:17,408 --> 00:20:19,009 Look for something like this. 418 00:20:19,009 --> 00:20:21,679 If we can find those valves, then we can test them and see 419 00:20:21,679 --> 00:20:24,281 if they're operating correctly. 420 00:20:24,281 --> 00:20:25,916 SCOTT WARREN: The valves were very important to us, 421 00:20:25,916 --> 00:20:29,053 because they are the key component that moves air 422 00:20:29,053 --> 00:20:32,056 from the engines where the bleed air originates 423 00:20:32,056 --> 00:20:32,823 for the de-icing system. 424 00:20:47,738 --> 00:20:49,039 OK, good. 425 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:49,807 Five more to go. 426 00:20:59,917 --> 00:21:02,086 NARRATOR: Five of the plane's six de-icing valves 427 00:21:02,086 --> 00:21:04,822 are eventually recovered. 428 00:21:04,822 --> 00:21:05,856 SCOTT WARREN: Some were badly burned. 429 00:21:05,856 --> 00:21:07,625 Some were in fairly good shape. 430 00:21:07,625 --> 00:21:11,328 And we took those valves, and we conducted as much testing 431 00:21:11,328 --> 00:21:13,764 on those valves as we thought was appropriate for the level 432 00:21:13,764 --> 00:21:15,366 of damage. 433 00:21:15,366 --> 00:21:17,901 We looked at the level of electrical conductivity, 434 00:21:17,901 --> 00:21:20,070 and we looked at the pressure testing. 435 00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:23,340 We looked at a wide variety of things, 436 00:21:23,340 --> 00:21:27,011 depending on the condition of the valve itself. 437 00:21:27,011 --> 00:21:28,646 And as far as we could tell, all those valves 438 00:21:28,646 --> 00:21:30,881 were working properly. 439 00:21:30,881 --> 00:21:32,650 Is that ice on the windshield? 440 00:21:32,650 --> 00:21:33,917 I've got it on my side. 441 00:21:33,917 --> 00:21:35,419 NARRATOR: Now, investigators have 442 00:21:35,419 --> 00:21:36,887 to consider the possibility. 443 00:21:36,887 --> 00:21:37,454 Oh, yeah. 444 00:21:37,454 --> 00:21:39,390 Oh, it's lots of ice. 445 00:21:39,390 --> 00:21:40,958 NARRATOR: But there is so much ice on the wings, 446 00:21:40,958 --> 00:21:43,394 that the de-icing system couldn't get rid of it 447 00:21:43,394 --> 00:21:44,395 fast enough. 448 00:21:44,395 --> 00:21:46,363 Oh, yeah. 449 00:21:46,363 --> 00:21:49,933 That's the most I've seen on the leading edges in a long time. 450 00:21:49,933 --> 00:21:52,069 NARRATOR: It has happened before. 451 00:21:52,069 --> 00:21:55,472 In Roselawn, Indiana, a French-built commuter plane 452 00:21:55,472 --> 00:21:59,610 crashed in 1994 after suffering a catastrophic buildup of ice 453 00:21:59,610 --> 00:22:00,644 on the wind. 454 00:22:09,153 --> 00:22:11,989 By analyzing how much power was needed for the plane 455 00:22:11,989 --> 00:22:14,792 to maintain its airspeed, investigators 456 00:22:14,792 --> 00:22:17,161 reach a surprising conclusion. 457 00:22:17,161 --> 00:22:19,997 Basically, the aircraft was flying as if it had 458 00:22:19,997 --> 00:22:22,633 a relatively small amount of ice on it, 459 00:22:22,633 --> 00:22:24,468 but a very manageable amount of ice. 460 00:22:24,468 --> 00:22:25,636 Looks normal. 461 00:22:25,636 --> 00:22:26,704 SCOTT WARREN: It was not overloaded. 462 00:22:26,704 --> 00:22:29,006 It was not excessive. 463 00:22:29,006 --> 00:22:31,709 NARRATOR: If ice didn't bring down the plane, 464 00:22:31,709 --> 00:22:35,979 something else must have caused it to stall. 465 00:22:35,979 --> 00:22:39,183 Warren studies the Q400 operating manual 466 00:22:39,183 --> 00:22:41,985 to learn the plane's stall speed, the velocity 467 00:22:41,985 --> 00:22:43,887 at which it can no longer generate 468 00:22:43,887 --> 00:22:46,557 enough lift to stay in the air. 469 00:22:46,557 --> 00:22:48,192 He discovers that in the conditions 470 00:22:48,192 --> 00:22:54,732 flight 3407 was flying through, it's roughly 111 knots. 471 00:22:54,732 --> 00:22:57,000 He now compares the plane's stall speed 472 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,670 with its actual airspeed just before the stall 473 00:22:59,670 --> 00:23:02,072 warning went off. 474 00:23:02,072 --> 00:23:08,212 131 knots, well above the danger zone. 475 00:23:08,212 --> 00:23:09,113 Flaps 15. 476 00:23:12,883 --> 00:23:14,852 When the stick shaker went off-- 477 00:23:14,852 --> 00:23:16,553 Uh, oh! 478 00:23:16,553 --> 00:23:19,523 Jesus Christ! 479 00:23:19,523 --> 00:23:23,127 --they were not necessarily at the edge of a stall. 480 00:23:27,097 --> 00:23:30,934 They were still 20 knots or so away from the stall. 481 00:23:30,934 --> 00:23:32,870 NARRATOR: This new revelation deepens 482 00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:35,239 the mystery of flight 3407. 483 00:23:35,239 --> 00:23:38,909 If it wasn't stalling, why did it fall out of the sky? 484 00:23:46,108 --> 00:23:48,477 to the critical seconds before flight 485 00:23:48,477 --> 00:23:51,247 3407 went out of control. 486 00:23:51,247 --> 00:23:54,717 They look for clues that could explain why the stall warning 487 00:23:54,717 --> 00:23:56,585 went off when the aircraft was flying 488 00:23:56,585 --> 00:24:00,089 well within its safety margins. 489 00:24:00,089 --> 00:24:02,892 They discover that this plane has a unique feature, known 490 00:24:02,892 --> 00:24:05,227 as a reference speed switch. 491 00:24:05,227 --> 00:24:08,497 It governs the sensitivity of the plane's stall warning. 492 00:24:08,497 --> 00:24:10,799 ROGER COX: Very few airplanes, in my experience, 493 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:12,034 have such a switch. 494 00:24:12,034 --> 00:24:13,636 This airplane is the only one I know 495 00:24:13,636 --> 00:24:16,972 of that has an actual switch on the overhead panel. 496 00:24:16,972 --> 00:24:19,575 It was designed by the manufacturer 497 00:24:19,575 --> 00:24:21,610 to be an extra safety feature. 498 00:24:21,610 --> 00:24:23,612 Some kind of variable ref speed? 499 00:24:23,612 --> 00:24:26,115 NARRATOR: Pilots are supposed to turn on the reference speed 500 00:24:26,115 --> 00:24:27,950 switch when they're going to be flying 501 00:24:27,950 --> 00:24:29,752 through icing conditions. 502 00:24:29,752 --> 00:24:31,253 And we'll probably be picking up some ice. 503 00:24:31,253 --> 00:24:34,123 NARRATOR: When in the increased position, 504 00:24:34,123 --> 00:24:37,893 it reminds pilots to fly faster to counteract any drag effect 505 00:24:37,893 --> 00:24:41,163 ice will have on the aircraft. 506 00:24:41,163 --> 00:24:43,198 ROGER COX: When you are in icing conditions 507 00:24:43,198 --> 00:24:45,668 and ice does accrue on the wing, it can 508 00:24:45,668 --> 00:24:49,004 cause the stall speed to go up. 509 00:24:49,004 --> 00:24:51,707 And so this ref speed switch correspondingly 510 00:24:51,707 --> 00:24:55,644 causes the warning to come on sooner or at a higher speed. 511 00:24:55,644 --> 00:24:59,682 What that switch does is it basically changes the trigger 512 00:24:59,682 --> 00:25:01,116 settings for the stick shaker. 513 00:25:01,116 --> 00:25:02,718 So we had to ask the manufacturer, 514 00:25:02,718 --> 00:25:04,086 how does this switch work? 515 00:25:04,086 --> 00:25:05,321 ROGER COX: And what we found was, 516 00:25:05,321 --> 00:25:08,190 it was part of the systems description 517 00:25:08,190 --> 00:25:10,826 that the crews got when they went through training. 518 00:25:10,826 --> 00:25:11,927 But they didn't get a lot of training 519 00:25:11,927 --> 00:25:13,329 on how to handle that switch. 520 00:25:13,329 --> 00:25:18,167 It seemed like it was too simple to worry about. 521 00:25:18,167 --> 00:25:22,204 NARRATOR: Investigators need to know if the crew of flight 3407 522 00:25:22,204 --> 00:25:25,240 had turned on the reference speed switch, 523 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,143 triggering the stick shaker at a faster-than-normal speed. 524 00:25:30,879 --> 00:25:34,717 The flight data recorder doesn't show whether the switch was on. 525 00:25:34,717 --> 00:25:38,687 Investigators must find another way of determining its position 526 00:25:38,687 --> 00:25:39,822 at the time of the accident. 527 00:25:45,861 --> 00:25:47,830 [phone ringing] 528 00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:49,631 Clint here. 529 00:25:49,631 --> 00:25:50,833 NARRATOR: Clint Crookshanks is given a new priority. 530 00:25:50,833 --> 00:25:51,900 All right. 531 00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:53,235 I'll see if we have it. 532 00:25:53,235 --> 00:25:55,037 NARRATOR: Recover the ice protection panel 533 00:25:55,037 --> 00:25:57,873 from the Q400 cockpit, where the reference 534 00:25:57,873 --> 00:26:00,009 speed switch is housed. 535 00:26:00,009 --> 00:26:02,745 Since the panel was in the cockpit, finding it 536 00:26:02,745 --> 00:26:04,780 is a challenge. 537 00:26:04,780 --> 00:26:06,715 CLINT CROOKSHANKS: Most of the front end of the airplane 538 00:26:06,715 --> 00:26:09,385 was consumed by fire, and so we didn't find anything 539 00:26:09,385 --> 00:26:13,722 except for little balls of molten aluminum, little wire 540 00:26:13,722 --> 00:26:16,225 bundles, and a lot of ash. 541 00:26:16,225 --> 00:26:18,127 NARRATOR: But after an extensive search, 542 00:26:18,127 --> 00:26:20,229 Crookshanks discovers that the ice 543 00:26:20,229 --> 00:26:22,765 protection panel is one of the few pieces 544 00:26:22,765 --> 00:26:24,700 of the cockpit that survived. 545 00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:26,268 Bingo. 546 00:26:26,268 --> 00:26:27,903 NARRATOR: However, the knobs and switches 547 00:26:27,903 --> 00:26:30,773 are barely recognizable. 548 00:26:30,773 --> 00:26:34,076 Crookshanks examines the charred panel to check the position 549 00:26:34,076 --> 00:26:37,112 of the reference speed switch. 550 00:26:37,112 --> 00:26:39,948 It was set to activate stall warnings 551 00:26:39,948 --> 00:26:43,252 at higher-than-normal speeds. 552 00:26:43,252 --> 00:26:44,820 CLINT CROOKSHANKS: We did find the ref 553 00:26:44,820 --> 00:26:46,088 speed switch in the wreckage, and it 554 00:26:46,088 --> 00:26:48,690 was in the increased position. 555 00:26:48,690 --> 00:26:51,427 NARRATOR: This discovery only raises more questions. 556 00:26:51,427 --> 00:26:53,295 [yawns] 557 00:26:53,295 --> 00:26:54,997 MARVIN RENSLOW (ON RECORDING): And we'll probably 558 00:26:54,997 --> 00:26:56,231 be picking up some ice. 559 00:26:56,231 --> 00:26:57,366 NARRATOR: The cockpit voice recorder 560 00:26:57,366 --> 00:27:00,302 indicates that as Renslow was beginning his descent 561 00:27:00,302 --> 00:27:03,806 into Buffalo, he commanded his plane to fly 562 00:27:03,806 --> 00:27:06,008 at the normal approach speed. 563 00:27:06,008 --> 00:27:07,709 MARVIN RENSLOW (ON RECORDING): Gear down. 564 00:27:07,709 --> 00:27:09,845 NARRATOR: But what's strange is that with his reference 565 00:27:09,845 --> 00:27:12,114 speed switch on, he actually should 566 00:27:12,114 --> 00:27:13,816 have been flying faster-- 567 00:27:13,816 --> 00:27:15,451 [sneezes] 568 00:27:15,451 --> 00:27:19,822 --as this is what the switch would remind him to do. 569 00:27:19,822 --> 00:27:21,457 So why wasn't he? 570 00:27:21,457 --> 00:27:24,993 The plane's computer warned the crew to fly faster, 571 00:27:24,993 --> 00:27:27,463 according to the settings they had configured, 572 00:27:27,463 --> 00:27:30,466 by displaying a set of red bars in the airspeed indicator. 573 00:27:30,466 --> 00:27:32,067 But you may have a better quality of life 574 00:27:32,067 --> 00:27:33,836 with regards to-- 575 00:27:33,836 --> 00:27:35,838 NARRATOR: These bars are meant to warn the pilots that a stick 576 00:27:35,838 --> 00:27:37,473 shaker activation is imminent. 577 00:27:37,473 --> 00:27:39,308 If you're looking at the airspeed indicator, 578 00:27:39,308 --> 00:27:42,144 you should be aware that you're getting slow, 579 00:27:42,144 --> 00:27:46,281 and the stall warning may come on. 580 00:27:46,281 --> 00:27:47,516 Jesus Christ! 581 00:27:47,516 --> 00:27:50,853 NARRATOR: It seems Renslow and Shaw were caught off-guard. 582 00:27:50,853 --> 00:27:55,023 Still, they could have easily corrected the situation. 583 00:27:55,023 --> 00:27:56,992 Once the stick shaker had activated, 584 00:27:56,992 --> 00:28:00,195 they could have turned the switch off, 585 00:28:00,195 --> 00:28:02,097 or they could have put the nose down 586 00:28:02,097 --> 00:28:03,265 and increased their airspeed. 587 00:28:03,265 --> 00:28:05,400 NARRATOR: It's clear to investigators 588 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,204 that flight 3407 wasn't in danger of stalling 589 00:28:09,204 --> 00:28:11,140 when the stick shaker went off. 590 00:28:11,140 --> 00:28:13,175 So now, they need to know exactly 591 00:28:13,175 --> 00:28:17,146 what happened after the stall warning was activated. 592 00:28:17,146 --> 00:28:19,348 An animated simulation of the crash 593 00:28:19,348 --> 00:28:22,151 is constructed, based on information 594 00:28:22,151 --> 00:28:24,253 from the flight recorders. 595 00:28:24,253 --> 00:28:28,357 Watch what happens just after the stick shaker goes off. 596 00:28:28,357 --> 00:28:29,992 NARRATOR: It illustrates that just 597 00:28:29,992 --> 00:28:31,894 after the stick shaker was triggered, 598 00:28:31,894 --> 00:28:34,196 the plane suddenly pulled up. 599 00:28:34,196 --> 00:28:37,132 This action dramatically slowed the aircraft, 600 00:28:37,132 --> 00:28:39,535 and at this point, it did stall. 601 00:28:39,535 --> 00:28:42,838 Essentially, the airplane entered an aerodynamic stall 602 00:28:42,838 --> 00:28:44,206 from which it did not recover. 603 00:28:44,206 --> 00:28:46,208 It pitched over and hit the ground. 604 00:28:46,208 --> 00:28:48,410 NARRATOR: Investigators are dumbfounded. 605 00:28:48,410 --> 00:28:53,215 Flight 3407 wasn't stalling when the stick shaker went off. 606 00:28:53,215 --> 00:28:56,785 But a few seconds later, it was. 607 00:28:56,785 --> 00:28:59,354 The crew's every action during that brief time 608 00:28:59,354 --> 00:29:02,524 now demands careful scrutiny. 609 00:29:02,524 --> 00:29:05,060 What did they do? 610 00:29:05,060 --> 00:29:06,395 NARRATOR: It's a puzzle. 611 00:29:06,395 --> 00:29:08,964 How could a trained flight crew take a plane 612 00:29:08,964 --> 00:29:12,534 that wasn't stalling, and in the space of a view moments, 613 00:29:12,534 --> 00:29:14,503 make it fall from the sky? 614 00:29:14,503 --> 00:29:16,572 ROGER COX: Any time you have an apparent stall 615 00:29:16,572 --> 00:29:18,941 for no apparent reason, that's a mystery. 616 00:29:18,941 --> 00:29:24,112 We would expect that no flight crew would stall an airliner. 617 00:29:24,112 --> 00:29:27,115 So the question is, why? 618 00:29:27,115 --> 00:29:28,417 NARRATOR: The focus of the investigation 619 00:29:28,417 --> 00:29:32,154 now switches from the plane to the crew. 620 00:29:32,154 --> 00:29:34,323 Specifically, on the moves they made 621 00:29:34,323 --> 00:29:36,458 during the critical seconds after the stall 622 00:29:36,458 --> 00:29:38,493 warning sounded. 623 00:29:38,493 --> 00:29:41,363 ROGER COX: We wanted to see if the way they flew the airplane 624 00:29:41,363 --> 00:29:43,999 was the way they were trained, according 625 00:29:43,999 --> 00:29:46,468 to the standard operating procedures that are portrayed 626 00:29:46,468 --> 00:29:48,971 in their flight manuals. 627 00:29:48,971 --> 00:29:52,040 NARRATOR: The flight data recorder retains information 628 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,611 from more than 1,000 different aspects of the Q400's flight 629 00:29:55,611 --> 00:29:58,080 operations. 630 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,583 From the airspeed and altitude to the position of the rudder 631 00:30:01,583 --> 00:30:05,320 pedals and throttles, it also records 632 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,223 the movements of the most critical flight control-- 633 00:30:08,223 --> 00:30:10,859 the control column. 634 00:30:10,859 --> 00:30:13,495 Pilots use the control column to change the position 635 00:30:13,495 --> 00:30:16,999 of the elevators and ailerons, which manage 636 00:30:16,999 --> 00:30:19,868 the direction of the plane. 637 00:30:19,868 --> 00:30:22,471 The flight data recorder stores information, not just 638 00:30:22,471 --> 00:30:24,640 about the control columns position, 639 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,644 but how much force is applied to it as well. 640 00:30:28,644 --> 00:30:32,347 The FDR records what the control positions were. 641 00:30:32,347 --> 00:30:34,349 It has sensors built into the control column. 642 00:30:34,349 --> 00:30:37,119 It has sensors built into the control wheel. 643 00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:38,887 NARRATOR: What Scott Warren finds 644 00:30:38,887 --> 00:30:42,591 when analyzing the control columns position is stunning. 645 00:30:42,591 --> 00:30:45,594 In response to the stick shaker, Captain Renslow 646 00:30:45,594 --> 00:30:48,330 should have pushed the column forward to bring 647 00:30:48,330 --> 00:30:50,532 the nose down and gain speed. 648 00:30:50,532 --> 00:30:54,369 But for some reason, he did the exact opposite. 649 00:30:54,369 --> 00:30:56,305 SCOTT WARREN: We found that the crew, instead of pushing 650 00:30:56,305 --> 00:30:58,340 forward, which is the normal response to a stick 651 00:30:58,340 --> 00:31:01,310 shaker triggering, the crew was actually 652 00:31:01,310 --> 00:31:03,512 pulling back on the controls. 653 00:31:03,512 --> 00:31:06,515 NARRATOR: This had the effect of pulling the nose up, causing 654 00:31:06,515 --> 00:31:09,184 the airspeed to drop and tipping the aircraft 655 00:31:09,184 --> 00:31:10,419 into an actual stall. 656 00:31:13,922 --> 00:31:16,925 Captain Renslow had apparently mishandled one of the most 657 00:31:16,925 --> 00:31:19,328 elemental piloting maneuvers-- 658 00:31:19,328 --> 00:31:22,431 how to recover from a stall. 659 00:31:22,431 --> 00:31:25,033 Above everything, it requires gaining air 660 00:31:25,033 --> 00:31:28,236 speed to get out of the red. 661 00:31:28,236 --> 00:31:30,706 ROGER COX: The recovery procedure is fairly 662 00:31:30,706 --> 00:31:32,574 simple and straightforward. 663 00:31:32,574 --> 00:31:34,676 It requires pushing forward on the controls 664 00:31:34,676 --> 00:31:37,112 and adding full power. 665 00:31:37,112 --> 00:31:40,716 At any point in time, had the captain pushed forward 666 00:31:40,716 --> 00:31:44,086 on those flight controls, he had a reasonably good 667 00:31:44,086 --> 00:31:47,556 chance of recovering quickly. 668 00:31:47,556 --> 00:31:49,424 JOHN KAUSNER: From everything we've gained, 669 00:31:49,424 --> 00:31:52,060 that stall was recoverable on a repeated number 670 00:31:52,060 --> 00:31:53,395 of levels and a repeated basis. 671 00:31:53,395 --> 00:31:55,097 There was no reason for their plane to go down. 672 00:31:55,097 --> 00:31:57,632 NARRATOR: Investigators also learned that First Officer 673 00:31:57,632 --> 00:32:00,736 Shaw, in trying to help Renslow deal with the crisis, 674 00:32:00,736 --> 00:32:03,105 inadvertently made things worse. 675 00:32:03,105 --> 00:32:05,607 I put the flaps up! 676 00:32:05,607 --> 00:32:07,609 NARRATOR: She retracted the flaps, 677 00:32:07,609 --> 00:32:10,312 reducing the amount of lift as the plane 678 00:32:10,312 --> 00:32:12,748 struggled to stay in the air. 679 00:32:12,748 --> 00:32:15,150 ROGER COX: Had the First Officer simply called out, 680 00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:18,487 you're stalled, advanced the power, pushed the nose over, 681 00:32:18,487 --> 00:32:20,589 the airplane would have been able to recover. 682 00:32:20,589 --> 00:32:22,557 SCOTT WARREN: From a human point of view, 683 00:32:22,557 --> 00:32:25,494 it's sad to recognize that those sorts of things happened 684 00:32:25,494 --> 00:32:27,596 and the tragedy that came from that. 685 00:32:33,611 --> 00:32:36,347 to properly respond to the stall warning 686 00:32:36,347 --> 00:32:40,618 was the primary cause of the crash of Flight 3407. 687 00:32:40,618 --> 00:32:44,622 As the issue is now pilot error rather than mechanical failure, 688 00:32:44,622 --> 00:32:47,291 human performance investigator, Evan Byrne, 689 00:32:47,291 --> 00:32:49,526 is brought on board. 690 00:32:49,526 --> 00:32:53,631 His first question-- why hadn't either Renslow or Shaw 691 00:32:53,631 --> 00:32:59,536 noticed that their airspeed was too low for the icy conditions? 692 00:32:59,536 --> 00:33:02,139 Byrne listens to the cockpit voice recording 693 00:33:02,139 --> 00:33:04,541 to try to understand what might have led to that oversight. 694 00:33:04,541 --> 00:33:05,409 REBECCA SHAW (ON RECORDING): Exactly. 695 00:33:05,409 --> 00:33:06,810 MARVIN RENSLOW (ON RECORDING): Where 696 00:33:06,810 --> 00:33:08,212 you could be home with your husband to take 697 00:33:08,212 --> 00:33:09,613 care of and all that stuff. 698 00:33:09,613 --> 00:33:11,348 NARRATOR: He learns that the crew had been 699 00:33:11,348 --> 00:33:13,517 talking throughout the flight. 700 00:33:13,517 --> 00:33:17,221 The conversation continued during a landing approach. 701 00:33:17,221 --> 00:33:21,558 It's a violation of a rule known as the sterile cockpit, which 702 00:33:21,558 --> 00:33:24,528 bans nonessential conversation during critical phases 703 00:33:24,528 --> 00:33:25,195 of a flight. 704 00:33:25,195 --> 00:33:27,364 --be upgraded in six months. 705 00:33:27,364 --> 00:33:29,199 Blah, blah, blah. 706 00:33:29,199 --> 00:33:30,401 [laughter on recording] 707 00:33:30,401 --> 00:33:31,669 EVAN BYRNE: Quite simply, it prohibits 708 00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:33,504 conversations that aren't related 709 00:33:33,504 --> 00:33:34,672 to the operation of the flight. 710 00:33:34,672 --> 00:33:36,140 MARVIN RENSLOW (ON RECORDING): Let's 711 00:33:36,140 --> 00:33:37,474 do a descent checklist, please. 712 00:33:37,474 --> 00:33:39,543 We can do the approach checklist along with it. 713 00:33:39,543 --> 00:33:41,612 REBECCA SHAW (ON RECORDING): Yeah, sure. 714 00:33:41,612 --> 00:33:42,846 Bug set. 715 00:33:42,846 --> 00:33:44,815 NARRATOR: Byrne also discovers that because of the cockpit 716 00:33:44,815 --> 00:33:48,085 banter, the crew performed critical checklists 717 00:33:48,085 --> 00:33:49,687 and briefings late. 718 00:33:49,687 --> 00:33:51,155 Off. 719 00:33:51,155 --> 00:33:52,723 Hydraulic pressure and-- 720 00:33:52,723 --> 00:33:56,326 NARRATOR: Distracted, the crew probably didn't see the red bar 721 00:33:56,326 --> 00:33:58,195 indicating they were flying too slowly 722 00:33:58,195 --> 00:34:00,831 for the conditions the plane had been configured for. 723 00:34:00,831 --> 00:34:02,499 --on. 724 00:34:02,499 --> 00:34:04,735 Approach checklist complete. 725 00:34:04,735 --> 00:34:05,869 Rock and roll. 726 00:34:05,869 --> 00:34:08,205 When crews deviate from standard operating procedures 727 00:34:08,205 --> 00:34:11,241 and perform checklists late or don't make the required 728 00:34:11,241 --> 00:34:12,843 call-outs, they become more vulnerable 729 00:34:12,843 --> 00:34:16,714 to subtle mistakes that they may make inadvertently. 730 00:34:16,714 --> 00:34:20,217 That could lead to startle and surprise 731 00:34:20,217 --> 00:34:23,420 or unanticipated events that they have to respond to. 732 00:34:23,420 --> 00:34:25,422 NARRATOR: The evidence is unequivocal. 733 00:34:25,422 --> 00:34:29,126 The crew of flight 3407 was badly distracted 734 00:34:29,126 --> 00:34:30,360 throughout the approach. 735 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,129 He came in when we interviewed. 736 00:34:32,129 --> 00:34:34,798 And he said, yeah, you're going to be upgraded in six months. 737 00:34:34,798 --> 00:34:36,033 NARRATOR: They had forgotten a key setting 738 00:34:36,033 --> 00:34:41,205 they had made that required them to fly faster than normal. 739 00:34:41,205 --> 00:34:43,440 They had missed indications that they were flying 740 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,577 too slow for icing conditions. 741 00:34:46,577 --> 00:34:49,413 Then, Captain Renslow had reacted incorrectly 742 00:34:49,413 --> 00:34:51,248 to a stall warning-- 743 00:34:51,248 --> 00:34:52,783 Jesus Christ! 744 00:34:52,783 --> 00:34:53,650 NARRATOR: --sealing the fate of the plane. 745 00:34:57,488 --> 00:34:59,590 Evan Byrne wonders, what could have 746 00:34:59,590 --> 00:35:01,592 caused a trained airline flight crew 747 00:35:01,592 --> 00:35:04,561 to have made such missteps? 748 00:35:04,561 --> 00:35:06,897 He finds a clue on the cockpit voice recording. 749 00:35:06,897 --> 00:35:09,700 [yawns] 750 00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:12,803 MARVIN RENSLOW (ON RECORDING): Excuse me. 751 00:35:12,803 --> 00:35:15,773 [groans] 752 00:35:15,773 --> 00:35:18,408 NARRATOR: The crew was showing signs of fatigue. 753 00:35:18,408 --> 00:35:21,612 Could Renslow and Shaw have been too tired to function 754 00:35:21,612 --> 00:35:23,480 effectively on the flight deck? 755 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:24,782 It's a tough question. 756 00:35:24,782 --> 00:35:27,217 Answering it will require tracking 757 00:35:27,217 --> 00:35:30,821 their movements during the 72 hours leading up to the crash. 758 00:35:30,821 --> 00:35:33,524 Byrne interviews the families of the pilots. 759 00:35:33,524 --> 00:35:34,691 Can I speak to Mrs. Renslow, please? 760 00:35:37,661 --> 00:35:40,197 NARRATOR: He studies the pilots mobile phone bills 761 00:35:40,197 --> 00:35:41,632 and records of text messages. 762 00:35:43,801 --> 00:35:46,670 He searches the airline's computer system 763 00:35:46,670 --> 00:35:48,972 to determine if and when the crew used 764 00:35:48,972 --> 00:35:50,841 it to check their schedules. 765 00:35:50,841 --> 00:35:53,877 He needs to track their every move. 766 00:35:53,877 --> 00:35:55,679 And what time did Rebecca leave the house? 767 00:35:55,679 --> 00:35:58,615 EVAN BYRNE: We're talking to colleagues or other pilots, 768 00:35:58,615 --> 00:36:00,784 check airmen, instructors. 769 00:36:00,784 --> 00:36:04,655 And we ask all those people about the pilots, 770 00:36:04,655 --> 00:36:06,390 about their recent activities. 771 00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:09,860 NARRATOR: He learns that neither pilot actually lived anywhere 772 00:36:09,860 --> 00:36:12,996 near Newark, but could not afford to stay 773 00:36:12,996 --> 00:36:15,999 in hotels on their salaries. 774 00:36:15,999 --> 00:36:20,337 Captain Renslow was earning $60,000 a year at Colgan Air. 775 00:36:20,337 --> 00:36:24,842 First Officer Shaw was being paid less than $16,000 a year, 776 00:36:24,842 --> 00:36:28,278 substantially less than an average bus driver. 777 00:36:28,278 --> 00:36:31,481 As a result, both pilots had made long cross-country 778 00:36:31,481 --> 00:36:32,983 commutes to Newark-- 779 00:36:32,983 --> 00:36:35,552 Captain Renslow, from his home in Florida, 780 00:36:35,552 --> 00:36:37,821 and Rebecca Shaw, from Seattle, Washington. 781 00:36:42,726 --> 00:36:45,028 In fact, Shaw had commuted all night 782 00:36:45,028 --> 00:36:49,833 from Seattle on a cargo flight that connected through Memphis. 783 00:36:49,833 --> 00:36:52,569 Captain Renslow had spent the night in the airline's crew 784 00:36:52,569 --> 00:36:56,940 lounge at Newark Airport after having already worked two days. 785 00:37:00,711 --> 00:37:05,415 He was seen sleeping on a couch in the lounge. 786 00:37:05,415 --> 00:37:07,050 It was against company rules, but 787 00:37:07,050 --> 00:37:09,419 pilots who couldn't afford housing near the airport 788 00:37:09,419 --> 00:37:12,055 did it anyway. 789 00:37:12,055 --> 00:37:15,425 Records show that at 3:10 AM, the morning of the crash, 790 00:37:15,425 --> 00:37:17,427 Renslow was awake. 791 00:37:17,427 --> 00:37:20,497 He checked his work schedule in the airline's computer network. 792 00:37:29,573 --> 00:37:32,709 Next stop, Buffalo. 793 00:37:32,709 --> 00:37:35,012 NARRATOR: At 7:29 AM, Rebecca Shaw 794 00:37:35,012 --> 00:37:37,614 sent a text message to her husband, 795 00:37:37,614 --> 00:37:39,616 telling him she'd arrived safely in Newark. 796 00:37:42,319 --> 00:37:43,020 Hi, honey. 797 00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:44,221 It's me. 798 00:37:44,221 --> 00:37:46,957 NARRATOR: Phone records indicate that later in the morning, 799 00:37:46,957 --> 00:37:50,928 Captain Renslow was on the phone several times. 800 00:37:50,928 --> 00:37:53,630 Rebecca Shaw was noticed having a nap, 801 00:37:53,630 --> 00:37:56,934 catching up on the rest she'd lost flying the night before. 802 00:38:00,704 --> 00:38:01,805 It's not a lot of sleep. 803 00:38:05,008 --> 00:38:07,044 EVAN BYRNE: We ultimately concluded that it was likely 804 00:38:07,044 --> 00:38:09,446 that both crew members were experiencing 805 00:38:09,446 --> 00:38:12,115 some effects of fatigue at the time of the accident. 806 00:38:12,115 --> 00:38:14,952 JOHN KAUSNER: Her job is to watch the airspeed. 807 00:38:14,952 --> 00:38:16,820 Her job was to watch the instrument panel. 808 00:38:16,820 --> 00:38:19,690 And my view is, she was fatigued to the point 809 00:38:19,690 --> 00:38:21,491 where it's, like, right here. 810 00:38:21,491 --> 00:38:23,093 And you're so dull. 811 00:38:23,093 --> 00:38:24,294 I think that's where she was, and he just was not capable. 812 00:38:24,294 --> 00:38:27,831 He was just-- he shouldn't have been flying an airplane. 813 00:38:33,955 --> 00:38:37,692 of flight 3407 leads John Kausner 814 00:38:37,692 --> 00:38:40,528 to rally support and become a fierce advocate 815 00:38:40,528 --> 00:38:43,397 for changes in the industry. 816 00:38:43,397 --> 00:38:46,500 He raises awareness among both lawmakers and the public 817 00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:48,836 about the need to improve regulations governing 818 00:38:48,836 --> 00:38:52,540 pilots at regional airlines. 819 00:38:52,540 --> 00:38:54,041 JOHN KAUSNER: This is just saying 820 00:38:54,041 --> 00:38:56,844 we support 3407 families, their fight for aviation safety. 821 00:38:56,844 --> 00:38:58,012 And these representatives and congressmen 822 00:38:58,012 --> 00:38:59,547 and senators have done that for us, 823 00:38:59,547 --> 00:39:01,582 and we're very appreciative. 824 00:39:01,582 --> 00:39:05,553 NARRATOR: He takes his fight all the way to Washington, DC. 825 00:39:05,553 --> 00:39:07,021 JOHN KAUSNER: We needed to do something. 826 00:39:07,021 --> 00:39:10,658 And so we began to advocate in Washington weekly. 827 00:39:10,658 --> 00:39:11,892 Every other week, I mean, we've made 828 00:39:11,892 --> 00:39:13,194 innumerable trips down there. 829 00:39:13,194 --> 00:39:15,896 And immediately, the families just gelled. 830 00:39:15,896 --> 00:39:19,767 We all attended the hearings and began to say, 831 00:39:19,767 --> 00:39:21,936 this is what we can do. 832 00:39:21,936 --> 00:39:24,438 NARRATOR: The crash of Flight 3407 833 00:39:24,438 --> 00:39:27,575 exposed wide-ranging shortcomings in the regulations 834 00:39:27,575 --> 00:39:29,644 that govern regional airlines. 835 00:39:29,644 --> 00:39:33,681 These smaller airlines now make up 1/2 of all daily passenger 836 00:39:33,681 --> 00:39:35,483 flights in the US. 837 00:39:35,483 --> 00:39:38,919 Their pilots are generally younger, less experienced, 838 00:39:38,919 --> 00:39:42,456 earn less, and work long hours. 839 00:39:42,456 --> 00:39:45,559 Their levels of safety are way different from the majors. 840 00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:51,065 They have a much lower threshold in training, in ability-- 841 00:39:51,065 --> 00:39:53,567 so in pay, obviously, so they can't attract 842 00:39:53,567 --> 00:39:54,869 a higher-qualified pilot. 843 00:39:54,869 --> 00:39:57,538 There are pretty low wages, pretty 844 00:39:57,538 --> 00:39:59,607 difficult working conditions. 845 00:39:59,607 --> 00:40:04,612 And we don't seem to attract the same level of applicant 846 00:40:04,612 --> 00:40:05,946 that we used to. 847 00:40:05,946 --> 00:40:08,616 Some regional airlines get into a bind, 848 00:40:08,616 --> 00:40:13,988 and they have to hire the first people that meet the minimums. 849 00:40:13,988 --> 00:40:17,091 NARRATOR: In the US, of the seven fatal accidents involving 850 00:40:17,091 --> 00:40:19,827 passenger jets over the past 10 years, 851 00:40:19,827 --> 00:40:22,029 five have involved regional airlines. 852 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,570 Those include the crash of Delta Connection flight 5191 853 00:40:29,570 --> 00:40:33,641 in August 2006, which killed 49 people when the crew 854 00:40:33,641 --> 00:40:35,109 took off from the wrong runway. 855 00:40:41,082 --> 00:40:44,752 John Kausner's campaign to change laws governing pilots 856 00:40:44,752 --> 00:40:46,153 has paid off. 857 00:40:46,153 --> 00:40:47,822 JOHN KAUSNER: We relied on your support. 858 00:40:47,822 --> 00:40:48,656 We needed your support. 859 00:40:48,656 --> 00:40:50,157 You nurture us. 860 00:40:50,157 --> 00:40:52,193 We want to thank all of you from all of us. 861 00:40:52,193 --> 00:40:55,129 NARRATOR: A year and a half after the crash, 862 00:40:55,129 --> 00:40:59,266 under pressure from Kosner and other victim's family members. 863 00:40:59,266 --> 00:41:02,136 The US Senate passed a bill, which toughens training 864 00:41:02,136 --> 00:41:04,972 requirements and forces the FAA to draw 865 00:41:04,972 --> 00:41:07,141 up new rules on pilot fatigue. 866 00:41:10,845 --> 00:41:13,681 Studies into the problem of overtired pilots 867 00:41:13,681 --> 00:41:14,648 are already underway. 868 00:41:18,018 --> 00:41:20,588 At the University of Iowa, researchers 869 00:41:20,588 --> 00:41:23,157 are developing a system that could help pilots resist 870 00:41:23,157 --> 00:41:27,728 fatigue, stay engaged with the critical task of flying, 871 00:41:27,728 --> 00:41:35,136 and prevent future tragedies like that of flight 3407. 872 00:41:35,136 --> 00:41:39,673 Thomas Schnell is a human factors engineer. 873 00:41:39,673 --> 00:41:42,743 THOMAS SCHNELL: We use a number of neurocognitive and 874 00:41:42,743 --> 00:41:47,915 physiological sensors that we apply on subjects, pilots, 875 00:41:47,915 --> 00:41:49,750 that we invite for our studies. 876 00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:51,318 --114 is going to be free floating. 877 00:41:51,318 --> 00:41:53,120 OK. 878 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:53,554 Welcome. 879 00:41:53,554 --> 00:41:55,723 Just go ahead. 880 00:41:55,723 --> 00:41:57,191 NARRATOR: He's studying how pilots stay alert on the flight 881 00:41:57,191 --> 00:42:00,161 deck as a test subject conducts a cross-country journey 882 00:42:00,161 --> 00:42:01,128 in a simulator. 883 00:42:01,128 --> 00:42:04,031 Using sensors, he can determine how alert 884 00:42:04,031 --> 00:42:07,101 and engaged a pilot really is. 885 00:42:07,101 --> 00:42:09,136 The research could lead to the development of 886 00:42:09,136 --> 00:42:11,806 fatigue detectors on airplanes. 887 00:42:11,806 --> 00:42:15,876 THOMAS SCHNELL: We are trying to predict pilot state, so that we 888 00:42:15,876 --> 00:42:18,112 can adjust something on the flight deck 889 00:42:18,112 --> 00:42:20,748 to prevent the problem from getting worse 890 00:42:20,748 --> 00:42:23,117 or starting in the first place. 891 00:42:23,117 --> 00:42:28,255 We monitor brain activity, eye movement activity, heart, 892 00:42:28,255 --> 00:42:32,092 the EKG, and respiration, and other parameters, 893 00:42:32,092 --> 00:42:35,763 in an effort to figure out what the pilots or the crew's 894 00:42:35,763 --> 00:42:36,730 state is. 895 00:42:36,730 --> 00:42:37,765 Are they fatigued? 896 00:42:37,765 --> 00:42:39,066 Overworked? 897 00:42:39,066 --> 00:42:41,202 Are they disengaged or distracted? 898 00:42:45,072 --> 00:42:47,408 This section is where they were really drowsy, 899 00:42:47,408 --> 00:42:50,911 and you can see that gaze has become kind of bored. 900 00:42:55,249 --> 00:42:57,251 NARRATOR: Schnell instructs the flight 901 00:42:57,251 --> 00:43:00,187 simulator to trigger a major systems failure in the cockpit. 902 00:43:03,757 --> 00:43:04,792 It's no good. 903 00:43:04,792 --> 00:43:06,060 Everything's good. 904 00:43:06,060 --> 00:43:07,828 Hydraulic systems have failed. 905 00:43:07,828 --> 00:43:10,264 Flaps not applicable. 906 00:43:10,264 --> 00:43:11,966 THOMAS SCHNELL: Crank up that heat map, 907 00:43:11,966 --> 00:43:15,803 so we can see what this brain activity was. 908 00:43:15,803 --> 00:43:16,804 Brace for impact. 909 00:43:16,804 --> 00:43:18,806 [alarm blaring] 910 00:43:18,806 --> 00:43:21,308 THOMAS SCHNELL: When a crew is fatigued, what you might see 911 00:43:21,308 --> 00:43:24,445 is their reaction to events may slow down. 912 00:43:24,445 --> 00:43:29,450 So you'll see mistakes being made on the flight deck. 913 00:43:29,450 --> 00:43:32,686 NARRATOR: It's precisely these kinds of mistakes on the part 914 00:43:32,686 --> 00:43:41,695 of Renslow and Shaw that ultimately crashed flight 3407 915 00:43:41,695 --> 00:43:42,963 and killed 50 people. 916 00:43:47,468 --> 00:43:49,970 It's a tragedy that should not have happened. 917 00:43:49,970 --> 00:43:52,172 That was foreseeable, was preventable, 918 00:43:52,172 --> 00:43:54,808 and it's repeatable, if we don't do something about it. 919 00:43:54,808 --> 00:43:57,878 I'm focused and determined to change what exists, and not 920 00:43:57,878 --> 00:44:00,247 have another dad sitting here. 72223

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