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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 2 00:00:04,045 --> 00:00:06,923 What I loved about them from the minute I saw the video, 3 00:00:07,716 --> 00:00:09,342 I knew they were driven. 5 00:00:09,426 --> 00:00:12,595 I knew they were artists. I knew they were passionate. 6 00:00:12,679 --> 00:00:15,557 They had this incredible, uh, goal. 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,308 And they were making it happen. 8 00:00:19,811 --> 00:00:22,897 You just called out the grandaddy of visual entertainment. 9 00:00:22,981 --> 00:00:24,691 This is absolutely groundbreaking. 10 00:00:24,774 --> 00:00:26,901 We had never done anything like that before. 11 00:00:26,985 --> 00:00:28,820 Iwájú is set in Lagos, Nigeria. 12 00:00:28,903 --> 00:00:31,114 Lagos has a certain audacity as a place. 13 00:00:31,197 --> 00:00:34,534 Look at you smiling. You know! You know you're giving me a high price! [laughs] 14 00:00:34,617 --> 00:00:37,370 [Ibrahim] There's a way it just wills itself to be what it wants to be. 15 00:00:37,454 --> 00:00:41,666 I want people to see the good, the bad, the ugly. You know, all the quirks. 16 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:42,792 Puff puff! 17 00:00:42,876 --> 00:00:45,003 We've tried to be authentic in every layer. 18 00:00:45,086 --> 00:00:46,963 You know, I've been living in Lagos all my life. 19 00:00:47,047 --> 00:00:50,508 The indigo fabric is special to Nigeria. 20 00:00:50,592 --> 00:00:53,053 The voices you're going to hear are homegrown. 21 00:00:53,136 --> 00:00:55,638 She's pretty much me in animated form. 22 00:00:55,722 --> 00:00:57,974 This is not us making up a world. 23 00:00:58,058 --> 00:01:03,063 This is us doing our best to portray a very real world. 24 00:01:03,146 --> 00:01:05,190 Seeing the story come to life… 25 00:01:05,273 --> 00:01:09,736 It was just really the three of us who had a dream that we believed in 26 00:01:09,819 --> 00:01:11,529 and worked very hard. 27 00:01:14,949 --> 00:01:16,910 [Ibrahim] There is that weight of responsibility. 28 00:01:16,993 --> 00:01:18,161 What if I fail? 29 00:01:18,244 --> 00:01:22,582 As an African mam, drawing or doing art is nothing. 30 00:01:22,665 --> 00:01:24,417 That's Nigerian mentality. 31 00:01:24,501 --> 00:01:27,754 But I think it's important to take a leap of faith. 32 00:01:30,006 --> 00:01:31,216 We run the show here. 33 00:01:31,299 --> 00:01:33,051 Oh, no. You don't wanna work with me anymore, Ziki? 34 00:01:33,134 --> 00:01:34,594 - Love me, come on! - [Adeola laughs] 35 00:01:34,678 --> 00:01:39,557 - I'm starting to see how big it will be. - Are you ready for Africa? 36 00:01:39,641 --> 00:01:42,977 - [audience cheers] - Yeah! 37 00:01:52,195 --> 00:01:59,119 [Adeola] Iwájú is actually inspired by a story that happened to a friend of mine. 38 00:01:59,661 --> 00:02:02,455 She was driving back home from the airport one day 39 00:02:02,539 --> 00:02:08,211 and suddenly armed men tried to block her car and she did something crazy. 40 00:02:08,294 --> 00:02:14,050 She jumped into the water and… [chuckles] …she was actually able to swim to safety. 41 00:02:14,551 --> 00:02:18,471 {\an8}So I always knew that I wanted to revisit that story at some point. 42 00:02:18,555 --> 00:02:23,476 {\an8}But "some point" came a lot sooner than I thought it would 43 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,312 in a way that I never saw coming. 44 00:02:31,568 --> 00:02:35,739 [Lee] I talk a lot about Walt Disney's belief 45 00:02:35,822 --> 00:02:40,160 that we should be evolving as storytellers all the time. I think about it a lot. 46 00:02:40,994 --> 00:02:44,581 {\an8}I remember meeting with Bob Iger when I accepted this role 47 00:02:45,165 --> 00:02:48,460 {\an8}and his permission to be fearless. 48 00:02:49,169 --> 00:02:50,462 I set a goal right away, 49 00:02:50,545 --> 00:02:54,132 which is that I want us to not just tell the stories of the world, 50 00:02:54,215 --> 00:02:56,051 but by the people of the world. 51 00:02:56,134 --> 00:03:01,056 And I really was excited to connect with artists from around the world, 52 00:03:01,139 --> 00:03:04,059 and do kinds of collaborations we'd never done before. 53 00:03:05,268 --> 00:03:08,563 [Spencer] Jenn and I had a meeting and we were talking about the studio 54 00:03:08,646 --> 00:03:10,607 and, really, her vision for it. 55 00:03:10,690 --> 00:03:14,611 {\an8}And she started to go into an example of where she had read this article 56 00:03:14,694 --> 00:03:18,156 {\an8}about this comic book company in Africa. 57 00:03:18,239 --> 00:03:20,158 I was lying in bed one morning 58 00:03:20,241 --> 00:03:22,410 and every morning, I read the news on my phone, 59 00:03:22,494 --> 00:03:24,037 and I go to the different newspapers, 60 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,375 and I was on the BBC and they had this headline, um, 61 00:03:28,458 --> 00:03:33,421 "Pan-African comic book company wants to kick Disney's…" you-know. 62 00:03:33,505 --> 00:03:36,007 So I was like, "Oh. This looks fun." 63 00:03:36,091 --> 00:03:39,678 I think that there is a sort of cultural revolution at the moment. 64 00:03:39,761 --> 00:03:43,932 People are hungry for content from other sources. 65 00:03:44,015 --> 00:03:45,266 There's an opportunity for them… 66 00:03:45,350 --> 00:03:46,351 [Lee] It was a video, 67 00:03:46,434 --> 00:03:49,104 and so I got to see the guys, I got to see their love of comics, 68 00:03:49,187 --> 00:03:53,900 their love of recognizing all the different artists across Africa 69 00:03:53,983 --> 00:03:56,319 in the different countries, and their different kinds of stories, 70 00:03:56,403 --> 00:03:59,948 and wanting to make sure the world, um, saw those stories. 71 00:04:00,031 --> 00:04:03,785 Most of what you find out there about Africa 72 00:04:03,868 --> 00:04:06,996 is being told by non-Africans 73 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,959 and it was very important to us that Africans tell their own stories. 74 00:04:11,042 --> 00:04:14,337 This is incredible. This is exactly what we do. It's all about storytelling. 75 00:04:14,421 --> 00:04:19,217 {\an8}Jenn Lee came bursting into the Frozen II production pod, 76 00:04:19,300 --> 00:04:21,636 {\an8}and she was, like, "I was list-- I read this interview of this-- 77 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:22,971 {\an8}Have you heard of this company Kugali?" 78 00:04:23,054 --> 00:04:24,889 and she was just talking, talking, talking. I was like, 79 00:04:24,973 --> 00:04:26,766 "Slow down. What are you saying?" 80 00:04:26,850 --> 00:04:31,354 And she was like, "I read this interview with this company, and this one guy said…" 81 00:04:31,438 --> 00:04:33,982 We're gonna kick Disney's a** in Africa. 82 00:04:34,065 --> 00:04:35,191 I know that's gonna happen. 83 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:37,944 He wasn't saying it as a joke. He was saying it sincerely. 84 00:04:38,028 --> 00:04:41,281 And it intrigued me so much. And she said, "What do you think?" 85 00:04:41,364 --> 00:04:43,450 And I said, "Well, I think we pick up the phone." 86 00:04:58,548 --> 00:05:01,217 [street noise] 87 00:05:01,301 --> 00:05:04,804 [people clamoring] 88 00:05:14,064 --> 00:05:16,524 - Used to be Kugali's… - [Adeola] It started with Tolu and I, 89 00:05:16,608 --> 00:05:18,818 who had known each other since primary school. 90 00:05:18,902 --> 00:05:22,155 {\an8}[Olowofoyeku] We were those kids who would always watch anime 91 00:05:22,238 --> 00:05:27,369 {\an8}play video games, watch superhero content, read comics, 92 00:05:27,452 --> 00:05:30,163 but we're from Nigeria. We're Nigerian. 93 00:05:30,246 --> 00:05:33,708 Everything we watch is American and Japanese. 94 00:05:33,792 --> 00:05:37,379 Where's the Nigerian, um, content? 95 00:05:37,921 --> 00:05:41,883 [Adeola] There was a comic con in Lagos, here in Freedom Park, 96 00:05:41,966 --> 00:05:46,680 and when I came here and I saw a small group of creators creating comics 97 00:05:46,763 --> 00:05:51,893 that were inspired by our own culture, mythology and folklore, 98 00:05:51,976 --> 00:05:53,895 it was a lightbulb moment. I was like, "Okay! 99 00:05:53,978 --> 00:05:56,815 This is new, this is original, and here's an opportunity." 100 00:05:56,898 --> 00:05:58,733 Welcome to Kugali Spotlight 101 00:05:58,817 --> 00:06:02,946 where we look at your favorite creators from across Africa and beyond. 102 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:05,407 [no audible dialogue] 103 00:06:05,490 --> 00:06:07,867 [Olowofoyeku] We originally just started out as a podcast, 104 00:06:07,951 --> 00:06:09,869 so it was just Ziki and I. 105 00:06:09,953 --> 00:06:11,913 We added a blog, a YouTube channel. 106 00:06:12,414 --> 00:06:17,752 I live in Lagos, he doesn't anymore. He spends way more time in the UK now. 107 00:06:17,836 --> 00:06:24,384 Today I have Gbenle Maverick and Hafeez Oluwa, the co-creators of Orò 108 00:06:24,467 --> 00:06:27,262 [Adeola] And then it became clear that 109 00:06:27,345 --> 00:06:32,100 what was needed was a company that could create a platform 110 00:06:32,183 --> 00:06:36,021 for talented artists and storytellers to showcase their stories. 111 00:06:36,104 --> 00:06:39,524 So we decided we'd transition to being a publisher 112 00:06:39,607 --> 00:06:43,153 where we were bringing together some of these people we had discovered 113 00:06:43,236 --> 00:06:46,322 and putting their work together with our own work. 114 00:06:50,201 --> 00:06:53,329 You know, the quality of the work was world-class. 115 00:06:53,413 --> 00:06:56,166 It's good quality by anybody's standards anywhere in the world. 116 00:06:57,208 --> 00:06:58,793 I was not a big comic book person. 117 00:06:58,877 --> 00:07:02,088 {\an8}I read the popular comic books, but I had very bold visions, 118 00:07:02,172 --> 00:07:03,506 {\an8}there were things I really wanted to do. 119 00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:05,342 In terms of Tolu and Ziki as a team, 120 00:07:05,425 --> 00:07:08,678 it worked really well for me because, one, we're all very different personalities, 121 00:07:08,762 --> 00:07:10,513 and we came from very different backgrounds, 122 00:07:10,597 --> 00:07:11,765 and then from there, 123 00:07:12,849 --> 00:07:14,476 the rest is history. 124 00:07:21,232 --> 00:07:24,986 When Hamid and I first met, we were both living in London at the time. 125 00:07:25,070 --> 00:07:27,822 He's from Uganda. 126 00:07:27,906 --> 00:07:30,909 I was living with Ziki, so it was a little co-founders' house. 127 00:07:30,992 --> 00:07:33,161 So, like, right there. 128 00:07:33,244 --> 00:07:36,289 [Ibrahim] It's that building, but it's that window down over there. 129 00:07:36,373 --> 00:07:39,626 I think we were sitting just by the living room. 130 00:07:40,210 --> 00:07:44,547 An executive from Disney Animation reached out to us. 131 00:07:44,631 --> 00:07:48,009 Just imagine you're sitting there, young creative, right? 132 00:07:48,093 --> 00:07:51,304 You just called out the grandaddy of visual entertainment. 133 00:07:51,388 --> 00:07:53,765 You just called them out and say you're gonna kick their a****. 134 00:07:53,848 --> 00:07:55,642 And then somebody reaches out saying, "Hi," 135 00:07:55,725 --> 00:07:57,227 that they're from Disney, "Want to talk?" 136 00:07:57,310 --> 00:07:59,270 First things first, you don't believe it's them. 137 00:07:59,354 --> 00:08:00,980 You're like, "Pfft, can't be them." 138 00:08:01,064 --> 00:08:06,319 So I was super-skeptical about the-- like, whether or not it was valid. 139 00:08:06,403 --> 00:08:09,781 Then after that we're like, "Let's talk to them. Let's just see where it goes." 140 00:08:09,864 --> 00:08:13,368 We said perhaps what we'll do is an anthology of shorts 141 00:08:13,451 --> 00:08:18,081 that are from some of the comics, and we'll turn them into animation 142 00:08:18,164 --> 00:08:20,291 and that was kind of our idea. 143 00:08:20,375 --> 00:08:23,086 And, of course, they came in and said, "How about this instead?" 144 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:32,971 [Adeola] Iwájú is a futuristic sci-fi story set in Lagos, Nigeria, 145 00:08:33,054 --> 00:08:35,515 about a young girl from the island, 146 00:08:35,598 --> 00:08:38,768 which is the richer and more affluent part of Lagos, 147 00:08:38,852 --> 00:08:41,521 that befriends a young boy from the mainland, 148 00:08:41,604 --> 00:08:45,775 which is the poorer and less-developed part of the city. 149 00:08:47,235 --> 00:08:48,528 But things get complicated 150 00:08:48,611 --> 00:08:53,158 when a crime boss who runs a kidnapping ring decides to make her his next target. 151 00:08:53,992 --> 00:08:56,745 Ziki really talked about how he wanted each episode 152 00:08:56,828 --> 00:08:57,996 to focus on a different character 153 00:08:58,079 --> 00:08:59,039 at the very beginning. 154 00:08:59,122 --> 00:09:02,125 Olabode, why did you take that money? 155 00:09:02,208 --> 00:09:03,335 Why? 156 00:09:03,418 --> 00:09:04,919 I just loved it. 157 00:09:05,003 --> 00:09:09,382 {\an8}It's me, Omotola Abike Martins. 158 00:09:10,383 --> 00:09:13,803 {\an8}[Adeola] Tola is this aspirational young lady 159 00:09:13,887 --> 00:09:17,515 who refuses to accept the world for the way it is and, rather, 160 00:09:17,599 --> 00:09:20,727 wants to see it for how it should be. 161 00:09:20,810 --> 00:09:24,356 And she ultimately inspires the people around her. 162 00:09:24,439 --> 00:09:25,398 [beeping] 163 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:27,442 {\an8}Let's see if that did it. 164 00:09:27,525 --> 00:09:30,070 {\an8}[Adeola] Tunde is Tola's father. 165 00:09:30,153 --> 00:09:35,116 {\an8}He is a wealthy tech executive. 166 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:41,122 Tunde's arc in the story is a journey of remembering where he came from. 167 00:09:42,248 --> 00:09:45,418 {\an8}My people. Mmm. I am here for you, eh? 168 00:09:45,502 --> 00:09:51,049 {\an8}[Adeola] Bode grew up in relatively poor circumstances 169 00:09:51,132 --> 00:09:55,178 and so he developed a sort of Robin Hood complex, 170 00:09:55,261 --> 00:09:59,474 but it's somewhat false because, you know, he just takes from the rich and 171 00:09:59,557 --> 00:10:01,434 that's the end of the story. 172 00:10:04,729 --> 00:10:06,106 {\an8}Kole! 173 00:10:06,690 --> 00:10:08,274 {\an8}Madam. 174 00:10:08,358 --> 00:10:11,069 {\an8}[Adeola] Kole is Tola's best friend 175 00:10:11,152 --> 00:10:16,408 {\an8}and he's also born in relatively poor circumstances 176 00:10:16,491 --> 00:10:19,703 where you're earning such little money 177 00:10:19,786 --> 00:10:24,040 that it actually ends up pushing you further and further into poverty. 178 00:10:24,124 --> 00:10:27,669 And so he's ultimately backed into a corner. 179 00:10:28,753 --> 00:10:31,381 [Lee] It really looked like a powerful series. 180 00:10:31,464 --> 00:10:34,592 Long-form series. It is 20-- you know, 20-minute episodes. 181 00:10:34,676 --> 00:10:36,886 We had never done anything like that before. 182 00:10:36,970 --> 00:10:39,973 Disney Animation as a studio has done features, 183 00:10:40,056 --> 00:10:41,349 and has done short films, 184 00:10:41,433 --> 00:10:43,685 but we haven't actually done series here. 185 00:10:43,768 --> 00:10:47,731 It just felt like, for all of us, it would give us something really new 186 00:10:47,814 --> 00:10:49,232 to build together. 187 00:10:49,733 --> 00:10:52,777 [Spencer] You know, Disney Animation has never partnered with an outside company 188 00:10:52,861 --> 00:10:57,574 in its 100 years of filmmaking, and so this is absolutely groundbreaking. 189 00:10:58,158 --> 00:11:03,538 Uh, Kugali, a full-on production of this scale 190 00:11:03,621 --> 00:11:08,793 was, quite frankly, something that was a little bit out of our depth. 191 00:11:08,877 --> 00:11:13,548 And is our creativity going to be swallowed by this behemoth? 192 00:11:14,215 --> 00:11:17,886 But I think it's important to take a leap of faith. 193 00:11:17,969 --> 00:11:22,307 Walt Disney himself believed in taking risks, innovating all the time, 194 00:11:22,390 --> 00:11:25,226 and so I don't think that for a second 195 00:11:25,310 --> 00:11:27,812 we said we can't take this risk, or shouldn't. 196 00:11:27,896 --> 00:11:32,108 {\an8}I have secretly dubbed this project, "the virgin suicides". 197 00:11:32,192 --> 00:11:36,404 {\an8}'Cause that's what it is! 'Cause it's like everybody's first time. 198 00:11:36,488 --> 00:11:38,198 {\an8}Everyone is a first-time leader, 199 00:11:38,281 --> 00:11:41,201 {\an8}and everyone wants to put their best foot forward. 200 00:11:41,284 --> 00:11:43,161 {\an8}Everyone's leaning on each other to amplify. 201 00:11:43,244 --> 00:11:45,205 You were hired for a reason, I was hired for a reason. 202 00:11:45,288 --> 00:11:47,082 We all know what we're doing individually 203 00:11:47,165 --> 00:11:48,875 so how do we bring that collectively? 204 00:11:48,958 --> 00:11:51,336 This is either gonna end really well 205 00:11:51,419 --> 00:11:54,756 or it's gonna end really badly. Let's start by saying that, right? 206 00:11:54,839 --> 00:11:56,633 Let's see what happens! 207 00:11:56,716 --> 00:11:59,719 He'll like all of this, right? 208 00:11:59,803 --> 00:12:01,805 [chirping, beeping] 209 00:12:11,106 --> 00:12:13,108 [Adeola] One of the things I've always wanted to do, 210 00:12:13,191 --> 00:12:15,402 particularly living here in the UK, 211 00:12:15,485 --> 00:12:21,324 is to try to give people a more accurate understanding 212 00:12:21,408 --> 00:12:24,953 of what life is like back home. 213 00:12:25,036 --> 00:12:31,459 Iwájú is a love letter to Lagos, but there's a degree of imposter syndrome. 214 00:12:31,543 --> 00:12:36,256 This is my first time as a screenwriter, as a director. 215 00:12:37,298 --> 00:12:41,761 What if, you know, I don't do a good job. What if I fail? 216 00:12:46,016 --> 00:12:49,227 My father was an entrepreneur. 217 00:12:49,310 --> 00:12:54,691 You know, he started a bank in Nigeria in the '90s. 218 00:12:54,774 --> 00:12:57,235 And a lot of his achievements have been met 219 00:12:57,318 --> 00:12:59,696 with a lot of praise and critical acclaim. 220 00:12:59,779 --> 00:13:03,033 You know, in many respects, he's always been my hero. 221 00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:06,953 He's always been the person I've wanted to be most like. 222 00:13:07,037 --> 00:13:09,289 Um, you know, it hasn't been all smooth. 223 00:13:09,372 --> 00:13:12,751 There's definitely been a lot of emotional conflict. 224 00:13:13,668 --> 00:13:15,670 Do you like living in this house, 225 00:13:15,754 --> 00:13:16,629 eating this food 226 00:13:16,713 --> 00:13:19,632 and wearing nice clothes? Hmm? 227 00:13:21,009 --> 00:13:24,220 Omotola Martins, I am speaking to you. 228 00:13:26,848 --> 00:13:27,849 - Good. - [metallic rattling] 229 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,186 Because mediocrity is not an option. 230 00:13:37,567 --> 00:13:42,614 There are many elements of my dad in Tunde in the sense of his philosophy 231 00:13:42,697 --> 00:13:48,161 which is you need to be able to stand on your own two feet 232 00:13:48,244 --> 00:13:52,624 and provide for yourself. That's the most important thing. 233 00:13:56,878 --> 00:14:03,218 And the price for that is to work extremely hard and to be very focused. 234 00:14:05,637 --> 00:14:08,223 When that's drilled into you, you know, constantly 235 00:14:08,306 --> 00:14:11,267 and you're just a little child trying to, sort of, play around 236 00:14:11,351 --> 00:14:14,896 and it's like, "No. Discipline. Fortitude." 237 00:14:14,979 --> 00:14:17,941 There's almost a sort of, like, militaristic component. 238 00:14:18,024 --> 00:14:22,987 My father's constant attempts to instill the value of discipline upon me 239 00:14:23,071 --> 00:14:28,284 is what allowed me to thrive doing martial arts. 240 00:14:28,993 --> 00:14:33,081 It just really resonated with me because that was already a philosophy 241 00:14:33,164 --> 00:14:36,501 that had been baked into me from a very young age. 242 00:14:41,047 --> 00:14:43,091 But on a deeper level, 243 00:14:43,174 --> 00:14:46,219 martial arts is just another form of artistry and creative expression. 244 00:14:46,302 --> 00:14:50,974 There's something about being able to move and expel force 245 00:14:51,057 --> 00:14:53,685 really helps me to face my creativity 246 00:14:53,768 --> 00:14:57,188 with as much enthusiasm and passion as I can muster. 247 00:15:06,948 --> 00:15:10,577 Think what always helps in-- especially for the team all the time, 248 00:15:10,660 --> 00:15:12,829 and we kind of say it's like, "what's the true north?" Which is… 249 00:15:12,912 --> 00:15:15,248 [Adeola] Working with Jenn Lee, 250 00:15:15,331 --> 00:15:18,752 I have an opportunity to watch a master in action. 251 00:15:18,835 --> 00:15:22,881 I used to play a lot of video games when I was younger 252 00:15:22,964 --> 00:15:28,178 and in video games, in a lot of them, you have a character that kind of levels up 253 00:15:28,261 --> 00:15:30,555 and you gain what's called EXP points, 254 00:15:30,638 --> 00:15:34,642 so working with Jenn Lee has been-- has given me a lot of EXP points 255 00:15:34,726 --> 00:15:36,853 that I probably otherwise wouldn't have gotten. 256 00:15:37,562 --> 00:15:42,442 So, I mean, I think the most important things, for me and the story thematically, 257 00:15:42,942 --> 00:15:47,739 is, or are, exploring income inequality… 258 00:15:47,822 --> 00:15:50,492 [Lee] As a writer and a director, he has vision. 259 00:15:50,575 --> 00:15:53,495 He knows character, he knows emotion. 260 00:15:54,079 --> 00:15:58,500 He comes with storytelling talent that's very deep but also very original 261 00:15:58,583 --> 00:16:00,919 and that's another thing that I think is critical. 262 00:16:02,337 --> 00:16:04,631 That there's a point of view that stands out. 263 00:16:04,714 --> 00:16:07,092 That's incredible, so I mean, I literally… 264 00:16:07,717 --> 00:16:13,598 [Adeola] So it's like if someone with her credentials is saying it's good, 265 00:16:13,682 --> 00:16:17,644 then maybe some of my self-doubt is actually just me being 266 00:16:17,727 --> 00:16:19,646 a little too self-indulgent. 267 00:16:19,729 --> 00:16:24,109 [Lee] I feel like in my career, um, folks took risks on me. 268 00:16:24,192 --> 00:16:27,195 Bob Iger included, when he gave me this position 269 00:16:27,278 --> 00:16:30,490 and we've had multiple conversations about that responsibility. 270 00:16:30,573 --> 00:16:34,369 When you see talent, you have a responsibility to nurture it. 271 00:16:34,452 --> 00:16:38,665 You have a responsibility to give folks opportunities 272 00:16:38,748 --> 00:16:44,212 to push them into a place where they get to grow and learn their craft. 273 00:16:45,588 --> 00:16:48,717 [Ibrahim] My role in Iwájú is one of the creators and the production designer. 274 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,262 I'm in charge of all the visuals coming from the show, and the world-building. 275 00:16:52,345 --> 00:16:56,016 When I say "world," I mean every single thing. 276 00:16:56,099 --> 00:16:58,226 So I mean the plants that are gonna be there, 277 00:16:58,309 --> 00:17:00,729 what kind of building it is, the architectural type, 278 00:17:00,812 --> 00:17:01,980 what they use to build. 279 00:17:02,063 --> 00:17:05,650 How the people dress, how the people look. The different skin tones. 280 00:17:08,486 --> 00:17:09,988 I don't live in Lagos, right? 281 00:17:10,071 --> 00:17:14,367 Although Uganda and Lagos have a lot of similarities in the way we look at things, 282 00:17:14,451 --> 00:17:16,953 so that tends to help my vision a little bit as well. 283 00:17:17,912 --> 00:17:21,833 It's also making sure you present it in a very interesting way 284 00:17:21,916 --> 00:17:24,044 that will kind of stick to people's minds. 285 00:17:29,257 --> 00:17:31,676 - Hello! - Hello. 286 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,179 - [Ibrahim] Mom has been living in the UK. - How are you? 287 00:17:34,262 --> 00:17:36,806 - Fine, thank you. How are you? - I'm all right, thank you. 288 00:17:36,890 --> 00:17:37,724 How have you been? 289 00:17:37,807 --> 00:17:41,311 I grew up with my grandma looking after us. Grandma, big, big family home. 290 00:17:41,394 --> 00:17:43,730 Whole bunch of aunties and uncles looking after us. 291 00:17:44,356 --> 00:17:45,940 I moved to the UK in 2011 292 00:17:46,024 --> 00:17:50,612 because I was just about to turn 18 and the visa I got was a child visa. 293 00:17:51,237 --> 00:17:58,119 So I got about two weeks' notice that I'm gonna move from Uganda to London. 294 00:18:00,872 --> 00:18:03,291 I remember the day his visa was through. 295 00:18:03,958 --> 00:18:07,337 {\an8}When I rang him and told him, he was really happy. 296 00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:11,424 It was such a big relief for me 'cause I was really missing him. 297 00:18:11,508 --> 00:18:15,011 As a mother, you do want, of course, all your children to be with you. 298 00:18:15,845 --> 00:18:18,848 Uh, he came in, we settled in well. 299 00:18:18,932 --> 00:18:23,103 We were really happy and comfortable, although we were a bit squeezed. 300 00:18:23,186 --> 00:18:25,146 [Ibrahim] I didn't even think we're poor, that's the funny thing. 301 00:18:25,230 --> 00:18:27,273 But in my head, I was like, "Oh, we're fine. We got food. 302 00:18:27,357 --> 00:18:28,400 We're happy. We're laughing." 303 00:18:28,483 --> 00:18:30,068 To me it felt like we were fine. 304 00:18:30,151 --> 00:18:33,905 The first thing was look for a college for him to go to. 305 00:18:33,988 --> 00:18:36,574 So I told him, "Let's go to a STEM college." 306 00:18:36,658 --> 00:18:41,454 When we went there, he had all his certificates and all his other drawings. 307 00:18:41,538 --> 00:18:44,749 The teacher was asking, "What would you like to study?" 308 00:18:44,833 --> 00:18:50,672 So, I said, "Oh, I think he would like to do some engineering or some, you know," 309 00:18:51,172 --> 00:18:54,342 but they said, "No, stop. I'm asking Hamid. 310 00:18:54,426 --> 00:18:56,511 It's him who should tell me what he wants." 311 00:18:57,554 --> 00:19:02,684 When Hamid was about six years old, whenever I would be cleaning the house 312 00:19:02,767 --> 00:19:05,228 I would find some small little books. 313 00:19:05,311 --> 00:19:07,355 And there are some drawings in them. 314 00:19:07,439 --> 00:19:08,523 I would throw them away. 315 00:19:08,606 --> 00:19:12,068 "You always cutting your books and making some drawings here. What are you drawing?" 316 00:19:12,610 --> 00:19:16,489 Because in my head, as an African mam, 317 00:19:16,573 --> 00:19:19,576 the drawing or doing art is nothing. 318 00:19:19,659 --> 00:19:23,955 He should study how to become a doctor, engineer, you know, those other things. 319 00:19:24,539 --> 00:19:27,167 I was so surprised and he was really happy 320 00:19:27,250 --> 00:19:29,294 because he chose what he really wanted to do. 321 00:19:29,377 --> 00:19:32,547 And that's what made him to be where he is now. 322 00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:37,469 I'm very proud of him. I'm happy for him to be where he is. 323 00:19:50,982 --> 00:19:55,695 On Iwájú, I'm a creator and the cultural consultant. 324 00:19:57,322 --> 00:19:59,949 {\an8}There are certain things that if we don't get right, 325 00:20:00,033 --> 00:20:03,203 {\an8}or if it's not 100% accurate to real life, 326 00:20:03,286 --> 00:20:06,289 {\an8}people are going to come for me in particular, 327 00:20:06,373 --> 00:20:09,167 {\an8}because they're like, "Tolu, you had one job." 328 00:20:11,252 --> 00:20:16,758 I'd never had dreams of going into animation or working with Disney. 329 00:20:16,841 --> 00:20:19,678 I had dreams of making video games. 330 00:20:19,761 --> 00:20:21,096 I love games. 331 00:20:21,179 --> 00:20:24,724 I love The Legend of Zelda, Super Smash Bros. 332 00:20:24,808 --> 00:20:26,476 I love Metal Gear Solid. 333 00:20:27,143 --> 00:20:29,771 I love playing these things. 334 00:20:30,689 --> 00:20:34,317 I've ended up doing even more than what I intended 335 00:20:34,401 --> 00:20:37,612 because now I'm-- I've done comics, I've done animation. 336 00:20:37,696 --> 00:20:39,447 I'm still going to do games. 337 00:20:43,243 --> 00:20:50,166 So my dad is a very traditional person in certain areas 338 00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:54,379 but he's also very individualistic. 339 00:20:54,462 --> 00:20:57,590 He doesn't, you know, follow the crowd. 340 00:20:59,676 --> 00:21:01,469 - [Olowofoyeku groans, laughs] - Whoo! 341 00:21:01,553 --> 00:21:02,554 Tolu. 342 00:21:03,471 --> 00:21:06,307 {\an8}What Tolu was like a boy, well, 343 00:21:06,391 --> 00:21:12,397 {\an8}he was very curious. Uh, he studied everything. 344 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:17,068 Whatever he had a passion for, I gave him some support there. 345 00:21:17,152 --> 00:21:20,613 [Olowofoyeku] He's okay with me doing certain things 346 00:21:20,697 --> 00:21:25,201 that I know that many other Yoruba parents would just not allow. 347 00:21:25,285 --> 00:21:29,414 [Kole] It is a very Nigerian thing. You had to have very good education. 348 00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:33,001 This is the engineer, you know. This is the doctor. 349 00:21:33,084 --> 00:21:37,714 You know, this is the chartered accountant. This is the professor. 350 00:21:37,797 --> 00:21:40,342 You know, that's Nigerian mentality. 351 00:21:40,425 --> 00:21:42,135 [Olowofoyeku] He wanted me to be able to just, you know, 352 00:21:42,218 --> 00:21:44,387 get an engineering job or something. 353 00:21:44,471 --> 00:21:49,059 But he still supported me when I was chasing my dream. 354 00:21:49,142 --> 00:21:50,268 He didn't stop me. 355 00:21:52,937 --> 00:21:55,648 [Kole] And I learned from my father 356 00:21:55,732 --> 00:21:59,444 not to force children to do things. 357 00:22:00,153 --> 00:22:04,074 I also thought it was a great idea. I also thought he had the talent. 358 00:22:04,157 --> 00:22:05,658 And so I said, "Let's see." 359 00:22:09,537 --> 00:22:10,997 - Game. - Yeah. 360 00:22:11,081 --> 00:22:12,582 [both laughing] 361 00:22:17,379 --> 00:22:20,924 Africa has some of the best stories, some of the most diverse stories. 362 00:22:21,007 --> 00:22:22,967 So many cultures with so many of us. 363 00:22:23,051 --> 00:22:24,678 It's the birthplace of humanity. 364 00:22:29,140 --> 00:22:34,979 There is just this expectation people have of the media coming out of Nigeria, 365 00:22:35,063 --> 00:22:36,940 coming out of Africa, 366 00:22:37,023 --> 00:22:42,320 and right from when we started Kugali, one of our goals was to break that. 367 00:22:42,404 --> 00:22:48,159 You know, as Kugali, we are-- we're inherently innovative in our approach. 368 00:22:48,243 --> 00:22:53,498 That audacity to really approach storytelling on our own terms 369 00:22:53,581 --> 00:22:55,166 and in our own way, 370 00:22:55,250 --> 00:22:58,420 I think is going to make this project quite different. 371 00:22:59,045 --> 00:23:01,589 [Olowofoyeku] There's this thing they say in Nigeria, 372 00:23:01,673 --> 00:23:04,092 "You tried, sha." Or, "They tried, sha." 373 00:23:04,175 --> 00:23:09,723 "Sha" is kind of like, um, "Well, it's not so bad. It's okay." 374 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,352 Nobody's going to look at my work and say, "They tried, sha." 375 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,526 {\an8}My role as a producer on the show is very much like curling. 376 00:23:25,363 --> 00:23:29,409 You're furiously, furiously sweeping against the stone to carve a path 377 00:23:29,492 --> 00:23:30,994 but you can't actually touch the stone. 378 00:23:31,077 --> 00:23:34,456 So, similar to how I can't write the dialogue, 379 00:23:34,539 --> 00:23:37,667 I can't animate the characters and I can't light the scenes. 380 00:23:37,751 --> 00:23:42,088 But it's effectively doing as much as you can around the actual creative entity 381 00:23:42,172 --> 00:23:45,425 without being able to do the actual creative work yourself. 382 00:23:51,222 --> 00:23:53,516 The biggest thing right now is just gonna be the choreography. 383 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,772 I've always been interested in films, whether it be feature films, or television 384 00:23:58,855 --> 00:24:00,190 and even any type of storytelling. 385 00:24:00,857 --> 00:24:04,110 I lucked out and started on the finance side 386 00:24:04,194 --> 00:24:07,864 from Big Hero Six to Moana, then to Frozen II. 387 00:24:07,947 --> 00:24:10,325 And then this fantastic opportunity came up 388 00:24:10,408 --> 00:24:12,160 and there was no way I could turn it down, 389 00:24:12,243 --> 00:24:14,162 - Take care. Talk to you later. Bye. - Ciao. 390 00:24:16,122 --> 00:24:19,209 We have artists in Africa, we're working with people in Montreal 391 00:24:19,292 --> 00:24:22,921 and in London and in Paris and in Los Angeles. 392 00:24:24,255 --> 00:24:25,757 It's definitely not normal. 393 00:24:31,471 --> 00:24:33,473 [cars honking] 394 00:24:36,267 --> 00:24:38,395 [Chen] Outside of the Zoom box and everything! 395 00:24:38,478 --> 00:24:39,312 I know, right? 396 00:24:39,396 --> 00:24:40,814 - Oh, my goodness. - How are you doing? 397 00:24:40,897 --> 00:24:42,774 - So good to see you. - Really good to see you too. 398 00:24:42,857 --> 00:24:44,693 - Good. - Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy. 399 00:24:44,776 --> 00:24:45,985 I can't even believe it. 400 00:24:46,069 --> 00:24:49,989 [Chen] So we've been working a little over six months together 401 00:24:50,073 --> 00:24:52,158 on Zoom before we actually met in person. 402 00:24:52,242 --> 00:24:54,828 - [Adeola] How are you doing? - [Christina] Oh, my goodness. 403 00:24:54,911 --> 00:24:57,622 Ziki in the flesh. Can we do a hug? 404 00:24:58,206 --> 00:25:00,417 It's good to see you. It's good to meet you. 405 00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:01,584 Yeah, it's good to meet you too. 406 00:25:01,668 --> 00:25:04,129 [Chen] I think for us, the biggest struggle's always time. 407 00:25:04,212 --> 00:25:07,090 It's the time zones, it's everyone being separated. 408 00:25:07,173 --> 00:25:09,009 Everyone's coming from not only a different time zone, 409 00:25:09,092 --> 00:25:11,469 but a different location and different mind-set. 410 00:25:11,553 --> 00:25:14,347 And we're still trying to maintain that level of quality 411 00:25:14,431 --> 00:25:15,890 at filmmaking and storytelling. 412 00:25:18,268 --> 00:25:22,480 [Adeola] Of everyone in the team, Tolu has the closest ties to Lagos. 413 00:25:22,564 --> 00:25:26,651 He was born there, he's grown up there and continues to live there today. 414 00:25:26,735 --> 00:25:29,863 {\an8}So he really provided insights 415 00:25:29,946 --> 00:25:35,452 {\an8}as to how to make the show as culturally accurate as possible. 416 00:25:35,535 --> 00:25:41,875 {\an8}As the cultural consultant, I am saying this thing is very Lagos. 417 00:25:41,958 --> 00:25:43,543 {\an8}This way of doing things. 418 00:25:43,626 --> 00:25:48,131 {\an8}This is so Lagos and I want it to be in the story, like, it has to come through. 419 00:25:48,214 --> 00:25:51,509 [Olowofoyeku] Let's get right into whatever questions are ready… 420 00:25:51,593 --> 00:25:54,888 [Adeola] One of the ways that he's doing this 421 00:25:54,971 --> 00:25:59,434 is by having a weekly segment called Wetin Dey Happen? 422 00:25:59,517 --> 00:26:04,314 "Wetin dey happen?" just means "What's happening?" or "What's popping?" 423 00:26:04,397 --> 00:26:05,482 "What's going on?" 424 00:26:05,565 --> 00:26:10,779 It's pidgin. It's pidgin English, which is spoken widely in Lagos. 425 00:26:10,862 --> 00:26:13,865 Oh, Tolu's Wetin Dey Happen meetings are incredible. 426 00:26:13,948 --> 00:26:18,411 Anyone can ask any question. He is our eyes into Lagos, Nigeria. 427 00:26:18,495 --> 00:26:24,042 What is different about going to school, specifically for, like, a ten-year-old 428 00:26:24,125 --> 00:26:26,086 on the island versus the mainland? 429 00:26:26,169 --> 00:26:30,924 It's one of the most fun sessions. It's very unstructured. 430 00:26:31,007 --> 00:26:33,802 It's more like, "What do you guys want to know?" 431 00:26:33,885 --> 00:26:35,804 And then I tell them wetin dey happen. 432 00:26:35,887 --> 00:26:38,515 Are young people worried about their outward appear… 433 00:26:38,598 --> 00:26:41,226 Do you see kids, sort of, walking in like a group to… 434 00:26:41,309 --> 00:26:43,436 …any coming-of-age type traditions? 435 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,646 I was wondering if there is any… 436 00:26:44,729 --> 00:26:49,067 They've asked way more questions than most people ever bother to ask, 437 00:26:49,150 --> 00:26:50,777 even about their own cultures. 438 00:26:51,277 --> 00:26:54,698 And Tolu eventually started filming everything that he saw outside of his car 439 00:26:54,781 --> 00:26:56,825 while he was driving around the city. 440 00:26:56,908 --> 00:26:59,953 [Olowofoyeku] What you're seeing now is, like, blocks of flats, 441 00:27:00,036 --> 00:27:03,164 plazas and schools… 442 00:27:03,248 --> 00:27:06,543 {\an8}This is what kekes really look like, this is what puff puff looks like. 443 00:27:06,626 --> 00:27:09,004 This is what people in the markets sound like. 444 00:27:09,087 --> 00:27:11,548 [Olowofoyeku] Of course somebody's going in the wrong direction. 445 00:27:11,631 --> 00:27:12,799 Of course. I mean, why not. 446 00:27:12,882 --> 00:27:14,843 - [car honks] - Are we not in Lagos. 447 00:27:14,926 --> 00:27:17,012 {\an8}Here's what a gatesman's house looks like. 448 00:27:17,095 --> 00:27:21,599 [Olowofoyeku] This is the gatesman's house. Always right next to the gate. 449 00:27:21,683 --> 00:27:24,269 He's like, literally, like, boots on the ground. 450 00:27:24,352 --> 00:27:26,771 This is not us making up a world. 451 00:27:26,855 --> 00:27:31,693 This is us doing our best to portray a very real world 452 00:27:31,776 --> 00:27:34,863 and we wanna get every single detail right. 453 00:27:35,530 --> 00:27:37,615 [Olowofoyeku] You know, the little things like 454 00:27:37,699 --> 00:27:42,412 the biggest mall in the world is in Nigeria. It's in the streets of Lagos. 455 00:27:42,495 --> 00:27:44,456 It's the traffic in Lagos. 456 00:27:44,539 --> 00:27:45,915 [Ibrahim] Phone charger! 457 00:27:45,999 --> 00:27:46,833 Come here, yes. 458 00:27:47,417 --> 00:27:48,293 'Ey! 459 00:27:48,376 --> 00:27:50,003 [Olowofoyeku] People sell things in traffic. 460 00:27:50,086 --> 00:27:53,673 Look at you smiling, you know! You know you're giving me a high price! [laughs] 461 00:27:53,757 --> 00:27:56,176 Pay? For a lizard? 462 00:27:56,259 --> 00:28:01,556 Those type of little details, those are the things I'm trying to put out there. 463 00:28:01,639 --> 00:28:05,727 I want people to see the good, the bad, the ugly, you know. All the quirks. 464 00:28:06,353 --> 00:28:08,688 {\an8}[Patrick] The particular scene I'm working on now, 465 00:28:08,772 --> 00:28:14,736 {\an8}Tola and Kole visit the market place for the first time. 466 00:28:14,819 --> 00:28:21,743 As a story artist, trying to bring that authenticity to a project about Nigeria, 467 00:28:21,826 --> 00:28:26,790 somewhere I've never been, Tolu has been really helpful with that. 468 00:28:26,873 --> 00:28:30,168 Tolu's input is absolutely vital. 469 00:28:30,251 --> 00:28:33,421 I think you remove that, Iwájú would not be Iwájú. 470 00:28:34,047 --> 00:28:36,591 And there's more art that's gonna be coming for it as well 471 00:28:36,675 --> 00:28:38,760 that we'll be sure to pass along to the story team. 472 00:28:38,843 --> 00:28:44,557 [Rawley] With animation, you are part of a humongous creative collaboration team. 473 00:28:44,641 --> 00:28:46,142 And that is fantastic. 474 00:28:46,726 --> 00:28:47,644 At some point, 475 00:28:47,727 --> 00:28:50,480 {\an8}these contributions that the animators are making, 476 00:28:50,563 --> 00:28:53,983 {\an8}the layout artists are making, they all end up in the cutting room. 477 00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:57,612 I am the lead editor on Iwájú, 478 00:28:57,696 --> 00:29:01,658 helping the director create the story in the cutting room. 479 00:29:02,784 --> 00:29:03,618 - Hi. - Hi, Ziki. 480 00:29:03,702 --> 00:29:05,036 - How's it going? - Good. 481 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,121 - [Christina] Hello. - Hey, hi. 482 00:29:06,204 --> 00:29:07,914 Working with her, I've learned a lot. 483 00:29:07,997 --> 00:29:12,002 I find it really easy to relate with her as well. 484 00:29:12,585 --> 00:29:14,629 Yeah, if we went basically from "uh-oh" 485 00:29:14,713 --> 00:29:17,632 and lost all this table-flying-around business. 486 00:29:17,716 --> 00:29:18,758 [Adeola] Mm-hmm. 487 00:29:18,842 --> 00:29:22,554 And then this would all work. Then he could fling him across the room. 488 00:29:23,138 --> 00:29:25,348 Yeah. I think if we just get rid of the table 489 00:29:25,432 --> 00:29:28,685 and, you know, all the other tantrums, this might work. 490 00:29:28,768 --> 00:29:32,105 So Ziki is rather stoic character. 491 00:29:32,188 --> 00:29:35,900 He will absorb everything and he thinks about it. 492 00:29:35,984 --> 00:29:39,154 Maybe when he's on the phone, he's like scanning the room 493 00:29:39,237 --> 00:29:41,031 and then he has his eyes on Sunday. 494 00:29:41,906 --> 00:29:45,493 And then it's a much more narrow focus. 495 00:29:46,077 --> 00:29:48,705 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think that's a good idea. 496 00:29:48,788 --> 00:29:51,249 [Rawley] It's the safest place, I think, on the show. 497 00:29:51,332 --> 00:29:53,501 We can try anything, do anything. 498 00:29:53,585 --> 00:29:55,420 [Rawley] This just-- It's such a… 499 00:29:55,503 --> 00:29:58,590 [Rawley] Laugh, joke, whatever. And I try and cultivate that 500 00:29:58,673 --> 00:29:59,841 as much as possible. 501 00:30:01,301 --> 00:30:02,719 What's up, Ziki. How are you? 502 00:30:02,802 --> 00:30:04,721 - Yeah, I'm good. How are you doing? - I'm all right. I've… 503 00:30:04,804 --> 00:30:08,266 [Adeola] Working with Halima has been interesting. 504 00:30:08,350 --> 00:30:13,521 I've never really worked with anyone as a co-writer. 505 00:30:13,605 --> 00:30:17,525 As far as, like, a structure, I think it makes sense. 506 00:30:17,609 --> 00:30:20,820 She's been essential because it's a lot of responsibility, 507 00:30:20,904 --> 00:30:24,157 carrying both the directorial and writing responsibilities, 508 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,619 so I think she's taking a huge load off of my shoulders. 509 00:30:27,702 --> 00:30:31,456 [Adeola] What I did is I put some options of what Dami said… 510 00:30:31,539 --> 00:30:34,626 [Hudson] He's been really great about making himself available 511 00:30:34,709 --> 00:30:36,336 to answer any questions 512 00:30:36,419 --> 00:30:38,963 and give really thoughtful notes on pages 513 00:30:39,047 --> 00:30:43,843 explaining why from a cultural lens, it would need to be a certain way. 514 00:30:43,927 --> 00:30:46,471 [Adeola] All right, all right, I've got your back. We'll get through it. 515 00:30:46,554 --> 00:30:47,681 Thank you. 516 00:30:48,431 --> 00:30:50,850 {\an8}I have known Halima's writing for a long time 517 00:30:50,934 --> 00:30:54,813 {\an8}and she's a phenomenal writer, especially with character. 518 00:30:54,896 --> 00:30:57,107 - [Lee] This is my Shakespeare pen… - Your Shakespeare pen? 519 00:30:57,190 --> 00:31:02,320 Jenn and I began at the studio at the same time, and on the same project. 520 00:31:02,404 --> 00:31:03,738 She was writing for Wreck-It Ralph. 521 00:31:03,822 --> 00:31:05,573 I was the production secretary for Wreck-It Ralph. 522 00:31:05,657 --> 00:31:07,617 So I told her I was a writer and, 523 00:31:07,701 --> 00:31:10,704 you know, we just kinda started a relationship like that. 524 00:31:10,787 --> 00:31:14,457 Okay. I love what you're going for. Here's the thing. I love… 525 00:31:14,958 --> 00:31:16,960 You know, I always was checking in with her, like, 526 00:31:17,043 --> 00:31:19,004 "I'm writing this, can you read it? What do you think?" 527 00:31:19,087 --> 00:31:21,631 And she would give notes on scripts that I was writing, give advice. 528 00:31:22,215 --> 00:31:23,299 I have a couple suggestions… 529 00:31:23,383 --> 00:31:24,342 [sighs] 530 00:31:24,426 --> 00:31:25,927 …just of some stuff. Don't sigh. 531 00:31:26,011 --> 00:31:26,845 [both laugh] 532 00:31:26,928 --> 00:31:30,056 Oh, you heard that? I thought that was an internal… 533 00:31:30,765 --> 00:31:34,811 On Zoom, the sighs are more subtle, but not in person. 534 00:31:36,146 --> 00:31:39,274 This is all happening in real time and so it's just like, 535 00:31:39,357 --> 00:31:42,527 "Okay, we're gonna try this and if it doesn't work, we're gonna pivot." 536 00:31:42,610 --> 00:31:46,364 You know what I mean, and I think it's just been learning as we go. 537 00:31:46,448 --> 00:31:50,577 And that's been stressful. And fun. But stressful. 538 00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,705 And fun. 539 00:31:59,544 --> 00:32:02,672 [Olowofoyeku] Nigeria has over 300 languages 540 00:32:02,756 --> 00:32:07,385 but the major language is Yoruba. Igbo. Hausa. 541 00:32:08,261 --> 00:32:11,306 Lagos just happens to be a Yoruba state. 542 00:32:12,807 --> 00:32:17,145 When we wanted to name the show, just like when we wanted to name our company, 543 00:32:17,228 --> 00:32:20,190 we wanted a name that would be easy to pronounce. 544 00:32:20,273 --> 00:32:23,651 Ziki wanted the title to reflect the future. 545 00:32:24,235 --> 00:32:27,030 "Future" in Yoruba would be Ojo Iwájú 546 00:32:27,113 --> 00:32:30,825 which translates to, "The day in front" or, "The day ahead." 547 00:32:30,909 --> 00:32:34,746 We just took out the Ojo and called it Iwájú. 548 00:32:34,829 --> 00:32:39,167 This story allows us to envision a future for Lagos. 549 00:32:39,250 --> 00:32:41,961 To envision a way forward. 550 00:32:42,045 --> 00:32:43,380 Wow! 551 00:32:43,463 --> 00:32:46,633 The average person in Lagos speaks English, 552 00:32:48,176 --> 00:32:51,054 probably a bit of Yoruba and then pidgin English. 553 00:32:51,137 --> 00:32:55,350 I no fit go where I dey stay, and with my oga. Lie lie. 554 00:32:55,433 --> 00:32:59,771 Pidgin English is the one language that unites the whole of West Africa. 555 00:32:59,854 --> 00:33:00,730 Not just Nigeria. 556 00:33:00,814 --> 00:33:04,359 My madam don turn ten. How I go forget? 557 00:33:04,442 --> 00:33:06,820 Almost all of us can speak pidgin English. 558 00:33:06,903 --> 00:33:08,029 There is no way, 559 00:33:08,113 --> 00:33:13,410 no way I am going to let us do a story in Lagos and they don't speak pidgin. 560 00:33:13,493 --> 00:33:15,078 I get plenty work to do. 561 00:33:15,161 --> 00:33:16,413 I no fit play today. 562 00:33:16,996 --> 00:33:19,332 The language in Iwájú is very intentional 563 00:33:19,416 --> 00:33:22,752 {\an8}because we want to make sure that everyone has a Yoruba dialect 564 00:33:22,836 --> 00:33:24,879 {\an8}and have it be really true to the people. 565 00:33:24,963 --> 00:33:28,633 So that when Nigerians are watching it they can feel a level of kinship there. 566 00:33:28,717 --> 00:33:32,387 Even if we get voice actors who are Nigerian, per se, 567 00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:37,183 if they've spent too much time in the US or UK, they will not sound Nigerian. 568 00:33:37,267 --> 00:33:41,646 I mean, even Ziki doesn't sound Nigerian. He sounds British. 569 00:33:41,730 --> 00:33:44,024 The casting process is really fun. 570 00:33:44,107 --> 00:33:49,821 We're working with a freelance casting director in Lagos, 571 00:33:49,904 --> 00:33:51,239 Lala Akindoju. 572 00:33:51,322 --> 00:33:57,037 {\an8}The beautiful thing about Iwájú is that it's very relatable to Nigeria. 573 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,082 {\an8}So to find a project that tells a story that is us, 574 00:34:01,166 --> 00:34:03,543 {\an8}that is authentic to us, it's such a big deal. 575 00:34:03,626 --> 00:34:08,298 For Nigeria. And for the Nigerian movie industry, popularly called "Nollywood". 576 00:34:08,381 --> 00:34:11,760 Uh, most of our cast, I would say, over 90 percent, 577 00:34:11,843 --> 00:34:13,803 is actually based in Lagos, Nigeria. 578 00:34:13,887 --> 00:34:15,430 [Akindoju] They are homegrown talents, 579 00:34:15,513 --> 00:34:18,475 grew up here, trained here, have been working here, 580 00:34:18,558 --> 00:34:20,977 and it feels like it's a time to announce them. 581 00:34:22,604 --> 00:34:25,940 Now, our lead is a young-- young child. 582 00:34:26,024 --> 00:34:31,905 Tola. Ten years old. Has two friends. Short. Has big hair. 583 00:34:31,988 --> 00:34:34,574 Goes to a private school. That's such an important detail. 584 00:34:34,657 --> 00:34:39,579 So I had to reach out to many schools' drama clubs. 585 00:34:39,662 --> 00:34:42,332 You never know when you're going to stumble on magic. 586 00:34:42,415 --> 00:34:47,962 And I was very, I don't know, lucky to have found Simi. 587 00:34:48,046 --> 00:34:50,340 [Gbadamosi] Hello, my name is Simisola Gbadamosi 588 00:34:50,423 --> 00:34:52,676 and I'm reading the character of Tola. 589 00:34:52,759 --> 00:34:56,054 I was like, "Okay, girl. Okay, okay, okay!" 590 00:34:56,137 --> 00:34:58,556 I was smiling the entire time. 591 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,809 Tola, you just had to go. 592 00:35:00,892 --> 00:35:03,353 If you had just waited until Daddy took you… 593 00:35:04,229 --> 00:35:06,398 I'm like, "This is her. This is Tola." 594 00:35:06,481 --> 00:35:08,191 "Yes! I won!" 595 00:35:08,274 --> 00:35:10,944 {\an8}She's pretty much me in animated form. 596 00:35:11,027 --> 00:35:12,946 {\an8}She's got sass. 597 00:35:13,029 --> 00:35:16,199 Cute, if this was yesterday. 598 00:35:16,282 --> 00:35:18,743 She's also kind of bossy sometimes. 599 00:35:18,827 --> 00:35:21,579 No games. All work. 600 00:35:21,663 --> 00:35:25,000 And it's my birthday, so no arguments. 601 00:35:25,083 --> 00:35:27,544 [Adeola] Simi, it was really fun working with her. 602 00:35:27,627 --> 00:35:28,962 All right. Let's record. 603 00:35:29,045 --> 00:35:31,464 She takes directions extremely well. 604 00:35:31,548 --> 00:35:34,050 I have never done voice acting before. 605 00:35:34,134 --> 00:35:38,054 When I was three, I played a sheep in my Christmas play. 606 00:35:38,138 --> 00:35:38,972 All right, Simi. 607 00:35:39,055 --> 00:35:42,600 For the last two reads, just add a little bit of emphasis on "any". 608 00:35:42,684 --> 00:35:43,977 So, "any." 609 00:35:44,060 --> 00:35:49,107 I don't know why I'm here or what you need. But I will not be any trouble. 610 00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:51,735 It took us a long time to find Tola and everybody else, 611 00:35:51,818 --> 00:35:54,279 but it took us extra time to find Kole. 612 00:35:54,946 --> 00:35:59,284 Casting boys, I find, is more difficult, 613 00:35:59,367 --> 00:36:00,618 especially in Nigeria. 614 00:36:00,702 --> 00:36:04,748 There's just a handful and you don't have a wide range. I find there are more women. 615 00:36:04,831 --> 00:36:10,253 When you wan give person big, big things, but life say you no fit? 616 00:36:10,337 --> 00:36:15,759 When Siji came my way, he has a laid-back kind of voice but it just works, 617 00:36:15,842 --> 00:36:18,845 and then when we place his voice next to Simi's. 618 00:36:19,637 --> 00:36:20,638 It was perfect. 619 00:36:20,722 --> 00:36:23,683 [chuckles] You should be a lawyer when you grow up, oh. 620 00:36:23,767 --> 00:36:25,935 Daddy would actually love that. 621 00:36:26,728 --> 00:36:31,608 I see different elements of myself in all of the characters. 622 00:36:31,691 --> 00:36:36,571 Kole, who has a bit of a social awkwardness to him, 623 00:36:36,654 --> 00:36:39,115 I can definitely relate to that. 624 00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:41,493 {\an8}Kole is a complex person. 625 00:36:41,576 --> 00:36:47,749 {\an8}He is a, kind of, shy individual. But when he is given the opportunity to shine, 626 00:36:47,832 --> 00:36:51,252 or, kind of, relax with Tola, he becomes a new person. 627 00:36:51,336 --> 00:36:52,712 Not bad. 628 00:36:53,380 --> 00:36:55,507 But you need to loosen your shoulder. 629 00:36:55,590 --> 00:36:58,760 I definitely see that part of myself within Kole. 630 00:36:59,427 --> 00:37:03,807 This project, it's a big deal for the Nigerian industry, for Nollywood. 631 00:37:03,890 --> 00:37:05,266 I'm very proud. 632 00:37:05,350 --> 00:37:08,186 The voices you're going to hear are homegrown. 633 00:37:08,269 --> 00:37:10,980 I say I'm so honored to be a part of Nollywood 634 00:37:11,064 --> 00:37:13,775 and I say the world should look out for Nollywood. 635 00:37:13,858 --> 00:37:15,110 We're coming. 636 00:37:19,823 --> 00:37:21,199 [Chen] So, for us and the story, 637 00:37:21,282 --> 00:37:23,576 we're always trying to balance the creative piece 638 00:37:23,660 --> 00:37:25,203 in terms of what's driving the characters forward, 639 00:37:25,286 --> 00:37:27,455 {\an8}as well as a cultural authenticity. 640 00:37:27,539 --> 00:37:29,040 {\an8}And this came up consistently 641 00:37:29,124 --> 00:37:32,544 because as Halima's rewriting, as she's taking her approach to it, 642 00:37:32,627 --> 00:37:35,588 and then Tolu, our cultural consultant, will then look at the script 643 00:37:35,672 --> 00:37:38,675 and there are moments when he does look at scenes 644 00:37:38,758 --> 00:37:42,345 and he, off the bat, will go, "That doesn't feel Nigerian enough." 645 00:37:42,429 --> 00:37:47,809 {\an8}I want every part of it to feel Nigerian, feel like it was created by Nigerians, 646 00:37:47,892 --> 00:37:53,523 {\an8}and not feel like it's Americans doing the story 647 00:37:53,606 --> 00:37:55,734 {\an8}and then just consulting Nigerians here and there. 648 00:37:55,817 --> 00:37:59,654 {\an8}To create a story that is a good story, 649 00:37:59,738 --> 00:38:03,616 {\an8}that people, no matter where they are, will resonate with and love, 650 00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:08,371 but is so culturally specific, and so you wanna keep it accurate, 651 00:38:08,455 --> 00:38:10,498 is not an easy dance. 652 00:38:10,582 --> 00:38:15,503 It is a dance where I am doing the tango, and you are over here cha-cha sliding. 653 00:38:15,587 --> 00:38:16,629 We're not doing it together. 654 00:38:16,713 --> 00:38:20,342 And so it becomes just like, what's the battle 655 00:38:20,425 --> 00:38:23,678 and what's the most important thing that we're trying to say in this moment. 656 00:38:24,262 --> 00:38:27,849 Three, two, one. Record. 657 00:38:28,641 --> 00:38:33,188 [Hudson] Starting at line one. So you'll be, "Kole abi, Tunde." 658 00:38:33,271 --> 00:38:36,524 "She must be following broda Sunday to Bode's hideout." 659 00:38:36,608 --> 00:38:38,026 "Have you been there?" 660 00:38:38,109 --> 00:38:41,863 Halima would translate certain things directly, 661 00:38:42,614 --> 00:38:44,657 the way it would work in America, 662 00:38:44,741 --> 00:38:47,077 and I'll be like, "This just does not work." 663 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,081 There was a line where I have 664 00:38:51,164 --> 00:38:55,502 Kole gets into the car with Tunde, and he says, 665 00:38:55,585 --> 00:38:56,920 No, Oga. 666 00:38:57,003 --> 00:38:59,339 {\an8}Oga means "boss," right. 667 00:38:59,422 --> 00:39:02,133 And so we have Kole calling him that throughout the whole series. 668 00:39:02,217 --> 00:39:04,052 And Tunde looks at him, 669 00:39:04,135 --> 00:39:07,555 and this is after he's found out he's been a part of the kidnapping, 670 00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:10,725 and he says, "Don't call me that anymore." 671 00:39:10,809 --> 00:39:13,812 As to say, "I am not your boss anymore." 672 00:39:13,895 --> 00:39:17,273 {\an8}And Kole looks down and he says, "Sorry Sa." 673 00:39:17,357 --> 00:39:18,775 {\an8}As in, "Sorry, sir." 674 00:39:18,858 --> 00:39:21,111 "Sorry. Sa." 675 00:39:21,194 --> 00:39:22,404 Perfect. 676 00:39:22,487 --> 00:39:24,781 And I'm like, "That's gonna be a great moment," 677 00:39:24,864 --> 00:39:27,867 because then later in the wrap-up, and we're all happy again 678 00:39:27,951 --> 00:39:33,039 {\an8}and everybody's friends, I had written it that Kole says, "Thank you Sa," 679 00:39:33,123 --> 00:39:36,793 {\an8}and Tunde says, "Don't you mean Oga?" 680 00:39:37,752 --> 00:39:39,879 I thought it was great and then… [sighs] 681 00:39:39,963 --> 00:39:41,214 …enter Tolu. 682 00:39:41,297 --> 00:39:44,134 The feeling Halima wanted to pass across there is, 683 00:39:44,217 --> 00:39:46,177 "No. Don't call me that. Not now." 684 00:39:46,261 --> 00:39:50,974 Because Tunde's angry at Kole for being partly responsible for Tola's kidnapping. 685 00:39:51,057 --> 00:39:55,228 So Halima wanted to portray that. "No. Don't call me that. Not now." 686 00:39:55,311 --> 00:39:57,731 But I told her, that doesn't track 687 00:39:57,814 --> 00:40:02,610 because Tunde will expect Kole to call him Oga no matter the situation. 688 00:40:02,694 --> 00:40:04,696 It's not going to be like, "Oh, I'm not happy with you now, 689 00:40:04,779 --> 00:40:05,947 so don't call me Oga." 690 00:40:06,031 --> 00:40:08,158 So I have to push back and tell her that, 691 00:40:08,241 --> 00:40:12,620 "The emotion you're trying to portray here, it won't work in Nigeria." 692 00:40:12,704 --> 00:40:15,457 Let me tell you one thing I want you to be doing. 693 00:40:15,540 --> 00:40:20,128 If you think, "Na. The houseboy wouldn't say that. 694 00:40:20,211 --> 00:40:21,629 This is the way he would say it," 695 00:40:21,713 --> 00:40:23,465 you can say it how it is in the script 696 00:40:23,548 --> 00:40:28,970 and then tell them, "I want to make a suggestion. I want to do an alt." 697 00:40:29,054 --> 00:40:32,640 Because you know, at the end of the day, they are Americans. 698 00:40:32,724 --> 00:40:37,437 They don't know how we say certain things or how we interpret certain things. 699 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,439 You do. You understand it. 700 00:40:39,522 --> 00:40:43,193 Feel free to make suggestions or corrections. 701 00:40:44,194 --> 00:40:47,113 [Hudson] There has been a few lines that I've really fought for 702 00:40:47,197 --> 00:40:49,949 but then ultimately it had to be, like, it doesn't serve the story. 703 00:40:50,033 --> 00:40:51,368 So I have to let it go. 704 00:40:51,451 --> 00:40:55,455 Sometimes authenticity trumps stories. 705 00:40:55,538 --> 00:40:57,207 I have had to learn 706 00:40:57,290 --> 00:41:02,796 for it to not impact it in such a way that the story suffers. 707 00:41:02,879 --> 00:41:05,799 Great. Perfect. Line seven. 708 00:41:05,882 --> 00:41:09,094 - So you want to see the real Lagos? - Yes. 709 00:41:09,177 --> 00:41:11,805 No wahala. But you have to do what I say, oh. 710 00:41:11,888 --> 00:41:13,306 Deal. 711 00:41:14,474 --> 00:41:16,476 [indistinct chattering] 712 00:41:20,939 --> 00:41:22,691 [vendor 1 speaks indistinctly] 713 00:41:22,774 --> 00:41:24,984 - [Kole] Ah. - Ehen. You want my fine cap? 714 00:41:25,068 --> 00:41:29,280 [Adeola] Ajegunle is one of the major locations in the story. 715 00:41:29,364 --> 00:41:32,826 It's where Tunde is from, it's where Kole is from, it's where Bode is from 716 00:41:32,909 --> 00:41:38,957 {\an8}and it is actually a real place on the mainland in Lagos. 717 00:41:48,341 --> 00:41:53,221 It's got the Boundary Market which is beautiful in many, many ways. 718 00:41:54,305 --> 00:41:59,769 And it's got the real authentic Nigerian feel as well. 719 00:41:59,853 --> 00:42:01,438 And it's got the chaos as well, 720 00:42:01,521 --> 00:42:06,901 so it was a great place for Tola to go on a journey of discovery. 721 00:42:14,659 --> 00:42:18,204 I knew that I wanted the scenes to take place in a market 722 00:42:18,288 --> 00:42:23,251 and then you just said, "Given the geography of-- of, what makes sense, 723 00:42:23,335 --> 00:42:26,296 Ajegunle would be a good location to have everything 724 00:42:26,379 --> 00:42:27,589 and then I was like, "Sure. Why not." 725 00:42:27,672 --> 00:42:29,799 - Really? I did? - Yeah, you did. 726 00:42:29,883 --> 00:42:31,760 - Oh, I see-- - See, I give credit where credit is due. 727 00:42:31,843 --> 00:42:33,928 - I don't even know-- - [Ibrahim] I was gonna say. 728 00:42:34,012 --> 00:42:37,140 The majority of kidnappings don't really happen on the island 729 00:42:37,223 --> 00:42:40,643 because the security is a lot more robust. 730 00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:44,439 It had to be a place that was relatively dangerous 731 00:42:44,522 --> 00:42:46,608 and had a, you know, dangerous reputation. 732 00:42:46,691 --> 00:42:48,276 Go! 733 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,072 So here, you know, it's a lot easier to get lost 734 00:42:52,155 --> 00:42:55,241 and then to be found by the kidnappers, 735 00:42:55,325 --> 00:42:59,120 so it just made a lot of sense to stage it in this particular area. 736 00:42:59,204 --> 00:43:01,748 And also, everyone's-- Even though there's people, 737 00:43:01,831 --> 00:43:06,002 everyone's so busy that no one's really paying attention to what's going on. 738 00:43:06,795 --> 00:43:10,090 Kidnapping is a real issue in Nigeria. 739 00:43:13,885 --> 00:43:18,848 {\an8}In Falomo Bridge there are a series of murals 740 00:43:18,932 --> 00:43:22,977 which are dedicated to the Chibok girls, 741 00:43:23,061 --> 00:43:26,981 who are a group of young girls that were kidnapped 742 00:43:27,065 --> 00:43:31,736 several years ago by a group known as Boko Haram. 743 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,617 I picked kidnapping because I thought it would shine a lens 744 00:43:37,701 --> 00:43:41,204 at the whole host of problems that we don't like. 745 00:43:42,205 --> 00:43:44,457 On the political side of things, 746 00:43:44,541 --> 00:43:49,629 kidnappings are just often used as a way for rebels or insurgents 747 00:43:49,713 --> 00:43:51,715 or people who call themselves freedom fighters 748 00:43:51,798 --> 00:43:56,928 to combat what they believe is injustice on the part of the government. 749 00:44:01,266 --> 00:44:03,476 - [headset beeping, chirping] - Omotola Martins, 750 00:44:04,185 --> 00:44:07,856 your daddy has done well for himself. 751 00:44:09,566 --> 00:44:13,987 In Iwájú, the villain Bode believes 752 00:44:14,070 --> 00:44:18,283 that the wealthy have been hoarding the wealth amongst themselves. 753 00:44:18,366 --> 00:44:23,329 And so he really thinks that he's owed this money 754 00:44:23,413 --> 00:44:26,207 and it is meant to mirror 755 00:44:26,291 --> 00:44:31,171 what I imagine a lot of Lagosian criminals are thinking. 756 00:44:32,088 --> 00:44:37,927 It is kind of a dark subject and, actually, 757 00:44:38,011 --> 00:44:44,059 Disney Animation in particular are quite good at more mature themes. 758 00:44:44,142 --> 00:44:46,561 [Lee] Throughout history in Disney fairy tales, 759 00:44:46,644 --> 00:44:49,064 {\an8}they put us in great jeopardy all the time. 760 00:44:50,148 --> 00:44:51,358 And fairy tales are there 761 00:44:51,441 --> 00:44:55,320 for us to learn to cope with situations in life in a safe space 762 00:44:56,112 --> 00:45:00,575 and so Iwájú, for me, has always been just like our other films 763 00:45:00,658 --> 00:45:04,996 and for the children in the audience, we want to make sure they can feel safe 764 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,540 to understand the focus of this story. 765 00:45:07,624 --> 00:45:13,004 So, especially with Tola's character, in terms of every shot that she's in, 766 00:45:13,088 --> 00:45:16,966 when we're working with the kidnapping, what kind of energy are we creating? 767 00:45:17,842 --> 00:45:22,555 [Adeola] I think we found ways of presenting that kind of subject matter 768 00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:25,141 in a manner that isn't too traumatic. 769 00:45:25,225 --> 00:45:27,894 It's part of what we do, 770 00:45:27,977 --> 00:45:32,273 and we can create a discourse together 771 00:45:32,357 --> 00:45:36,319 to talk about these scary things in life at times. 772 00:45:45,078 --> 00:45:47,539 ♪ I've got gizmos and gadgets a-plenty ♪ 773 00:45:47,622 --> 00:45:50,000 ♪ I've got whozits and whatzits galore ♪ 774 00:45:50,083 --> 00:45:54,337 {\an8}The Little Mermaid, I can sing many of the songs word for word right now. 775 00:45:54,421 --> 00:45:59,926 ♪ Wish I could be part of that world ♪ 776 00:46:00,427 --> 00:46:03,054 When I watch Disney's movies, 777 00:46:03,138 --> 00:46:07,600 I mean, many of them you see, Hercules, Greek legends, Mulan, China. 778 00:46:07,684 --> 00:46:11,855 They explore so many different cultures and, to be honest, 779 00:46:11,938 --> 00:46:14,899 as a kid I think my introduction to many of those cultures 780 00:46:14,983 --> 00:46:16,109 were from Disney movies. 781 00:46:16,192 --> 00:46:20,655 But, I mean, The Lion King is Disney's big African story, right? 782 00:46:20,739 --> 00:46:26,661 And most of the actors and the writers, they're mostly not African. 783 00:46:26,745 --> 00:46:32,500 But with our story the people coming up with the ideas are African. 784 00:46:32,584 --> 00:46:36,212 We're Nigerian. Coming up with the idea of a Nigerian story. 785 00:46:36,296 --> 00:46:38,798 And other songs are so much fun. 786 00:46:41,885 --> 00:46:44,095 {\an8}[Ibrahim] The reason I got into animation, which is funny, 787 00:46:44,179 --> 00:46:45,347 {\an8}was Lion King. 788 00:46:45,430 --> 00:46:48,266 {\an8}And that's what inspired me to fall in love with animation, right? 789 00:46:48,350 --> 00:46:53,146 Both the story it tells, i.e. becoming who you're meant to be. 790 00:46:53,229 --> 00:46:56,066 That was one of a pivotal thing in my life. 791 00:46:56,149 --> 00:47:00,320 And funny enough, Marlon West, who is our VFX supervisor in Iwájú, 792 00:47:00,403 --> 00:47:01,780 worked on the original Lion King. 793 00:47:01,863 --> 00:47:07,327 I remember the first Zoom meeting I had with him and I come on the screen 794 00:47:07,410 --> 00:47:12,415 {\an8}and he looks at my square and then he looks to his other monitor, 795 00:47:12,499 --> 00:47:15,710 {\an8}and I could see him, like, IMDb me [imitates typing sound] 796 00:47:15,794 --> 00:47:19,047 and he looks back, goes "Mmm." 797 00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:24,260 And so I was like, "Okay, I cut mustard with this fellow." 798 00:47:24,844 --> 00:47:26,513 - [Ibrahim] Hey. - What's going on, man? 799 00:47:26,596 --> 00:47:27,931 - It's good to see you. - Good to see you. 800 00:47:28,014 --> 00:47:30,558 [Ibrahim] You meet him and he's just a normal person. Really cool guy. 801 00:47:30,642 --> 00:47:33,228 Like just another person, just another human being, right? 802 00:47:33,311 --> 00:47:34,437 I still don't believe it. 803 00:47:34,521 --> 00:47:36,856 You know, when you're seeing people and you're like, "Is it really them?" 804 00:47:36,940 --> 00:47:38,274 - Actually don't believe it. - It is. 805 00:47:38,858 --> 00:47:41,236 [West] I've always wanted to make movies. 806 00:47:41,319 --> 00:47:44,656 I got a movie camera, like, for my 12th birthday. 807 00:47:44,739 --> 00:47:49,369 And also really into monster movies, so I started doing stop motion animation. 808 00:47:49,869 --> 00:47:52,997 I mean, I've been at Disney for a long time. Upwards of 30 years. 809 00:47:53,081 --> 00:47:55,500 I started here in the hand-drawn era 810 00:47:55,583 --> 00:47:58,837 and have been head of effects since Atlantis 811 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,672 all the way up through Encanto. 812 00:48:00,755 --> 00:48:04,342 Marlon's been a part of our studio for decades. 813 00:48:04,426 --> 00:48:08,555 On a personal level, I had worked very closely with him on Frozen and Frozen II 814 00:48:08,638 --> 00:48:09,723 as our head of effects. 815 00:48:10,432 --> 00:48:12,767 He's a very important leader in our studio. 816 00:48:13,268 --> 00:48:15,770 - [Kole] What was that? Ooh. - Turn around. Turn around. 817 00:48:15,854 --> 00:48:17,605 - I don't know what's in the outside, oh. - [laughs] 818 00:48:17,689 --> 00:48:19,149 [gasping] 819 00:48:19,232 --> 00:48:21,067 [West] So I first heard about Iwájú 820 00:48:21,151 --> 00:48:24,070 from a studio update we had with Clark and Jenn. 821 00:48:24,154 --> 00:48:28,199 And it just kinda started checking a lot of boxes for me as a creative person. 822 00:48:28,283 --> 00:48:31,661 It was science fiction. It was set in Africa. 823 00:48:31,745 --> 00:48:34,330 It was a crime story of sorts. 824 00:48:34,414 --> 00:48:40,420 He is someone, as a leader and a mentor, who wants to help you get your vision out. 825 00:48:40,503 --> 00:48:43,131 He's the perfect person to be there for Ziki, 826 00:48:43,214 --> 00:48:45,800 to help him and Hamid and Tolu, 827 00:48:45,884 --> 00:48:48,511 and help them understand our process. He knew everything about it. 828 00:48:48,595 --> 00:48:50,096 [West] As visual effects supervisor, 829 00:48:50,180 --> 00:48:54,809 I'm creatively and artistically, technically working with our filmmakers 830 00:48:54,893 --> 00:48:57,228 to figure out exactly how to make our film 831 00:48:57,312 --> 00:49:00,357 in the most efficient and most beautiful way possible. 832 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,192 So, if they are closer to the house, 833 00:49:02,942 --> 00:49:06,780 you know, we could either assume that they've walked into that position 834 00:49:06,863 --> 00:49:09,991 from some other place or we can actually show them, kind of, approach. 835 00:49:10,075 --> 00:49:11,284 To kinda take this in. 836 00:49:11,368 --> 00:49:13,286 [Ibrahim] I know I'm gonna learn a lot from him. 837 00:49:13,370 --> 00:49:15,497 And it really-- it kind of reflects Lion King, 838 00:49:15,580 --> 00:49:17,749 i.e. the circle of life. 839 00:49:18,249 --> 00:49:19,668 That's it. Everybody get that? 840 00:49:19,751 --> 00:49:21,169 - Yep. - Yes, thanks. 841 00:49:32,013 --> 00:49:35,100 [Ibrahim] When we started working on Iwájú, I'd never been to Lagos. 842 00:49:36,685 --> 00:49:37,852 [vendors chattering] 843 00:49:41,856 --> 00:49:46,194 The best way I can describe it is, Lagos has a certain audacity as a place. 844 00:49:46,277 --> 00:49:49,155 An example I'll give is you see a really tall, beautiful building. 845 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,032 Right next to it is, like, a goat farm. 846 00:49:51,658 --> 00:49:52,951 And the energy's always high. 847 00:49:54,202 --> 00:49:58,915 {\an8}But Lagos is so different in the way there is that pushing yourself forward. 848 00:49:58,998 --> 00:50:01,751 There's a way it just wills itself to be what it wants to be. 849 00:50:08,967 --> 00:50:11,845 It was really nice working with artists who lived in Lagos, 850 00:50:11,928 --> 00:50:14,305 because it helped me have a starting point 851 00:50:14,389 --> 00:50:16,725 which is from people who knew what Lagos was 852 00:50:16,808 --> 00:50:18,727 versus what people think Lagos is. 853 00:50:18,810 --> 00:50:23,023 We have a whole bunch of Africans working on the project. 854 00:50:23,106 --> 00:50:26,776 Bill Masuku in Zimbabwe and Jason Lamy. 855 00:50:26,860 --> 00:50:29,279 Joy Alunga from Kenya. 856 00:50:29,362 --> 00:50:32,490 But then we have people like Godwin, Bimpe. 857 00:50:32,574 --> 00:50:37,620 We have Victor, John Zino, Segun. Those are all Lagosians. 858 00:50:38,580 --> 00:50:40,707 You know, I've been living in Lagos all my life 859 00:50:40,790 --> 00:50:43,418 so definitely there is always traffic 860 00:50:43,501 --> 00:50:47,922 and people hawking bottled water or maybe snacks. 861 00:50:48,006 --> 00:50:50,592 As I give them direction on what to draw, they give me something. 862 00:50:50,675 --> 00:50:52,469 They give me the reason. We have that back and forth. 863 00:50:52,552 --> 00:50:54,721 [Chen] I think Hamid being from Uganda, 864 00:50:54,804 --> 00:50:55,764 I think it allows him 865 00:50:55,847 --> 00:50:59,142 to actually approach being a production designer for this series 866 00:50:59,225 --> 00:51:00,977 with the idea of what's really gettable 867 00:51:01,061 --> 00:51:02,979 and digestible for an audience standpoint 868 00:51:03,063 --> 00:51:05,231 and while also being very culturally relevant. 869 00:51:05,315 --> 00:51:08,735 You know, I think I really like it, because one, as you know, 870 00:51:08,818 --> 00:51:11,613 like, we're trying to make this to be like a love letter to Lagos, right? 871 00:51:13,406 --> 00:51:17,452 I like to think of it as I'm kind of, like, leading an orchestra 872 00:51:17,535 --> 00:51:18,828 of amazing artists. 873 00:51:33,426 --> 00:51:39,057 {\an8}Lagos is a melting pot. Everyone from all over Nigeria is in Lagos. 874 00:51:39,140 --> 00:51:42,769 [Ibrahim] One of the ways a lot of people identify themselves as African 875 00:51:42,852 --> 00:51:45,271 is from what they wear, which would be like traditional wear. 876 00:51:45,355 --> 00:51:47,023 A lot of them would wear the Ankara design 877 00:51:47,107 --> 00:51:48,983 which is patterns with a lot of color in them. 878 00:51:49,067 --> 00:51:52,862 [Adebambo] The show had to depict our culture, 879 00:51:52,946 --> 00:51:55,782 our way of life or, like, our way of clothing. 880 00:51:55,865 --> 00:51:58,034 [Ibrahim] If you look at all the costumes of the characters, 881 00:51:58,118 --> 00:52:00,328 wanted to make them not just visually interesting. 882 00:52:00,412 --> 00:52:04,290 For them to make sense for people who are from Lagos as well was very important. 883 00:52:04,374 --> 00:52:07,502 I wanted it to have that identity embedded inside it. 884 00:52:07,585 --> 00:52:09,587 So I added that expertise from Bimpe 885 00:52:09,671 --> 00:52:12,298 because she has a deep knowledge in the fashion world. 886 00:52:12,382 --> 00:52:15,385 [speaking Yoruban] 887 00:52:16,052 --> 00:52:22,851 And we wanted to portray people from different tribes of the country. 888 00:52:22,934 --> 00:52:25,687 [speaking Yoruban] 889 00:52:26,604 --> 00:52:31,735 Because we're talking about different kinds of textiles. 890 00:52:31,818 --> 00:52:38,783 Some are woven, some are spun, so they come with different textures. 891 00:52:42,370 --> 00:52:44,205 Tola. We're here. 892 00:52:46,166 --> 00:52:49,294 When I read the scripts and there was this part 893 00:52:49,377 --> 00:52:53,882 that Tola had to go to Ajegunle, 894 00:52:53,965 --> 00:52:57,635 I thought it wasn't a scene for a dress. 895 00:52:58,136 --> 00:53:00,555 And she also still has to be cute, 896 00:53:00,638 --> 00:53:04,893 you know, so I thought what would be nice would be a jumpsuit. 897 00:53:06,519 --> 00:53:12,859 The indigo fabric that I suggested for her outfit is special to Nigeria. 898 00:53:12,942 --> 00:53:16,571 The particular designs that I chose, 899 00:53:16,654 --> 00:53:20,533 a cowrie shell is significant in so many ways. 900 00:53:20,617 --> 00:53:21,576 It's from the sea. 901 00:53:21,659 --> 00:53:26,331 Lagos is called the place of aquatic splendor, center of excellence, 902 00:53:26,414 --> 00:53:31,961 but the cowrie was also a former legal tender in Nigeria. 903 00:53:32,045 --> 00:53:36,549 And, hey, she's the daughter of a billionaire. 904 00:53:39,135 --> 00:53:41,638 Oya, who wan chop? 905 00:53:41,721 --> 00:53:44,224 [cheering] 906 00:53:44,307 --> 00:53:48,603 Hamid wanted Bode in agbada. 907 00:53:48,687 --> 00:53:53,149 Agbada is basically a three-piece suit. Quite stately, it's big. 908 00:53:53,233 --> 00:53:59,072 You wouldn't, on a normal day, just be wearing that on the street. 909 00:53:59,155 --> 00:54:02,075 {\an8}You would be wearing it maybe for a function. 910 00:54:02,158 --> 00:54:06,538 Everything about him had to be big. Jumbo coral beads. Who wears that, 911 00:54:06,621 --> 00:54:11,376 you know, like, on a normal day. You have to be a chief or a king or something. 912 00:54:11,459 --> 00:54:13,086 So many rings. 913 00:54:13,169 --> 00:54:15,088 I mean, his watch can buy you-- 914 00:54:15,171 --> 00:54:18,258 maybe he even orders from Rolex ahead of time. 915 00:54:18,341 --> 00:54:21,594 You know, just to show that, "Well, we run the show here." 916 00:54:25,724 --> 00:54:28,852 [Ibrahim] Ziki, as he was writing the story about class and division, 917 00:54:28,935 --> 00:54:31,312 in Lagos itself we have the mainland and the island, 918 00:54:31,396 --> 00:54:34,232 and there's an actual water body separating the two bodies, right. 919 00:54:34,315 --> 00:54:38,319 And one side of Lagos is full of the most wealthy people 920 00:54:38,403 --> 00:54:41,406 where the other side is not as wealthy as the other one. 921 00:54:41,489 --> 00:54:43,992 There's something a little bit dystopian about the fact 922 00:54:44,075 --> 00:54:48,872 that you have a body of water separating the wealthy from those who are not. 923 00:54:48,955 --> 00:54:52,250 {\an8}That was something you could really sink your teeth in as visual storytelling 924 00:54:52,334 --> 00:54:56,171 {\an8}that we could build this world on one side of the water 925 00:54:56,254 --> 00:55:01,426 versus this other world and have this very clear difference 926 00:55:01,509 --> 00:55:03,136 between haves and have-nots. 927 00:55:04,262 --> 00:55:06,056 [Ibrahim] I was trying to show the wealthy side of Africa. 928 00:55:06,139 --> 00:55:08,892 And I was trying to think of where to show that that's, one, unique 929 00:55:08,975 --> 00:55:11,102 and, two, would speak to the culture of Lagos. 930 00:55:11,728 --> 00:55:15,440 For example, if you come to the main town part of the island, 931 00:55:15,523 --> 00:55:16,983 which is a more affluent area, 932 00:55:17,067 --> 00:55:20,236 they have the sculpture buildings which are buildings made out of sculptures 933 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,198 {\an8}where the rich people of Lagos would live inside, 934 00:55:23,281 --> 00:55:26,368 {\an8}and it's almost like they're living in an art piece that represents Lagos. 935 00:55:26,451 --> 00:55:29,746 {\an8}Whereas when you come to the mainland, we go all the way to the extreme 936 00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:33,541 where we have houses made out of what would be containers, 937 00:55:33,625 --> 00:55:35,835 maybe travel containers. And they were kind of modified to be houses. 938 00:55:35,919 --> 00:55:41,633 So if you look at the design here, there is just so much density. 939 00:55:41,716 --> 00:55:44,928 I tried as much as possible to integrate everything 940 00:55:45,011 --> 00:55:48,098 that would make life accessible to these people. 941 00:55:48,181 --> 00:55:52,769 So we have Lagos today and then Iwájú is just an amplification of that. 942 00:55:52,852 --> 00:55:54,270 In a futuristic sense. 943 00:55:55,772 --> 00:55:57,232 Happy birthday. 944 00:55:57,982 --> 00:56:00,360 Mmm? This is Otin. 945 00:56:01,695 --> 00:56:03,238 [Adeola] At some point, 946 00:56:03,321 --> 00:56:08,868 I realized that we needed an animal character in the show. 947 00:56:08,952 --> 00:56:11,663 And I didn't wanna do just any animal. 948 00:56:11,746 --> 00:56:14,457 I just had this eureka moment of an agama lizard. 949 00:56:14,541 --> 00:56:17,752 Something that every Nigerian watching would be like, "Wow." 950 00:56:18,878 --> 00:56:21,089 That's the lizard in my backyard. 951 00:56:22,215 --> 00:56:26,219 They're very common in West Africa. 952 00:56:26,302 --> 00:56:27,262 Ugh! 953 00:56:27,846 --> 00:56:31,683 The whole idea is Tola dislikes agama lizards, 954 00:56:31,766 --> 00:56:36,980 and Tunde has this idea or sense that children love lizards. 955 00:56:37,063 --> 00:56:39,024 [Tunde] You once asked for a pet, 956 00:56:39,107 --> 00:56:42,527 and research shows that children love lizards. 957 00:56:43,611 --> 00:56:47,282 So I thought what better way to show how little he knows 958 00:56:47,365 --> 00:56:50,326 about the tastes of children or even about lizards. 959 00:56:50,952 --> 00:56:54,039 It's great. E se baba. 960 00:56:54,122 --> 00:56:58,543 In Nigeria, children would not have agama lizards as pets. 961 00:57:03,631 --> 00:57:06,176 {\an8}Yo, we know that sound. Puff puff! Puff puff! 962 00:57:10,055 --> 00:57:15,518 In the story there are a few key moments with respect to food. 963 00:57:15,602 --> 00:57:18,188 We have puff puff, for example. 964 00:57:18,271 --> 00:57:21,107 - Let us, like, ten pieces. - Ten pieces, yeah? 965 00:57:21,191 --> 00:57:23,651 Think of it as a Nigerian doughnut. 966 00:57:23,735 --> 00:57:29,032 The main difference is the mix of spices that are used to give it its flavor. 967 00:57:29,115 --> 00:57:30,325 Thank you. 968 00:57:30,408 --> 00:57:31,451 Ooh! 969 00:57:32,869 --> 00:57:33,912 Mmm! 970 00:57:35,330 --> 00:57:41,211 Tola's a lot more fascinated by the local authentic food. 971 00:57:42,212 --> 00:57:43,421 Mmm! 972 00:57:43,505 --> 00:57:48,009 It is actually incredibly delicious, you know, it's full of flavor. 973 00:57:48,093 --> 00:57:49,678 It's visually striking. 974 00:57:49,761 --> 00:57:54,015 If Tola was so interested in eating mainland food, 975 00:57:54,099 --> 00:57:56,559 {\an8}Kole would definitely want to take Tola to a mama puts. 976 00:58:03,066 --> 00:58:06,528 [speaking Yoruban] 977 00:58:06,611 --> 00:58:07,862 Yes. 978 00:58:08,697 --> 00:58:10,824 They call these places "mama puts" 979 00:58:10,907 --> 00:58:13,785 because usually the person serving would be a lady. 980 00:58:13,868 --> 00:58:18,498 It's usually run by women and they're like, "Mama puts three eba." 981 00:58:18,581 --> 00:58:21,918 "Puts one fish", "puts one ponmo". [chuckles] 982 00:58:22,002 --> 00:58:25,463 Yeah, so Ziki, have you ever actually eaten at a mama puts before? 983 00:58:25,547 --> 00:58:29,843 Yeah. Last time was maybe when I was, like, ten or 11 years old. 984 00:58:29,926 --> 00:58:32,554 What! That is forever ago. 985 00:58:32,637 --> 00:58:34,014 I really like the energy of the place 986 00:58:34,097 --> 00:58:37,600 in terms of just, like, I like the feeling of it. 987 00:58:37,684 --> 00:58:41,688 This type of food is affordable to the mass populous you find here. 988 00:58:41,771 --> 00:58:47,402 And that's why I felt like in the story we needed to have the mainland characters 989 00:58:47,485 --> 00:58:50,530 eat at mama puts because it's natural to them. 990 00:58:50,613 --> 00:58:53,366 And they're not going to go to, like, a fancy restaurant 991 00:58:53,450 --> 00:58:56,953 and order non-Nigerian food. 992 00:58:58,246 --> 00:59:00,206 I'm eating with my hands. 993 00:59:00,290 --> 00:59:02,751 My hands, Kole. 994 00:59:02,834 --> 00:59:06,379 Primarily we have the characters eating swallow 995 00:59:06,463 --> 00:59:10,592 which is, the closest western analogy I can think of is, mashed potato 996 00:59:10,675 --> 00:59:11,885 but it's a little bit different. 997 00:59:11,968 --> 00:59:17,766 Swallow is some sort of tuber that is mashed up and cooked, 998 00:59:18,433 --> 00:59:21,269 eaten alongside what we would call soup, 999 00:59:21,353 --> 00:59:24,481 but it's not like the typical soup you eat with a spoon. 1000 00:59:24,564 --> 00:59:27,150 It has a little bit more texture to it 1001 00:59:27,233 --> 00:59:32,489 and you mix the soup with some fried meat, vegetables, spices, 1002 00:59:32,572 --> 00:59:33,782 and then you eat that all together 1003 00:59:33,865 --> 00:59:38,286 and that is one of the most authentically Nigerian dining experiences. 1004 00:59:38,370 --> 00:59:40,622 I just tasted the soup and I was like, "Okay, I'm not-- 1005 00:59:40,705 --> 00:59:42,499 That's not my level of pepper." 1006 00:59:43,208 --> 00:59:47,879 {\an8}West African food in general is very different from East African food. 1007 00:59:47,962 --> 00:59:50,674 {\an8}But the biggest difference would be the amount of spices. 1008 00:59:50,757 --> 00:59:53,343 When I was a kid, they… 1009 00:59:53,426 --> 00:59:55,970 When they were cooking, I could… 1010 00:59:56,054 --> 00:59:58,515 I would already be sweating. Like, I'm not even eating it. 1011 00:59:58,598 --> 01:00:03,520 And then the-- the aromas emanating from the kitchen were pretty difficult. 1012 01:00:03,603 --> 01:00:06,648 I would say they don't really care about the taste of their food. 1013 01:00:06,731 --> 01:00:08,900 They just wanna burn your tongue. That's my perspective. 1014 01:00:08,983 --> 01:00:10,694 Humble opinion. Right? 1015 01:00:10,777 --> 01:00:13,905 So someone who's not used to that is, you know… 1016 01:00:13,988 --> 01:00:16,199 I would recommend they stay safe. 1017 01:00:16,282 --> 01:00:18,993 [both laughing] 1018 01:00:19,077 --> 01:00:21,496 Bring on the pepper! 1019 01:00:21,579 --> 01:00:24,374 This party has to be perfect. 1020 01:00:24,457 --> 01:00:27,585 {\an8}- [chirping] - [camera shutter clicks] 1021 01:00:27,669 --> 01:00:29,796 This music is gonna be a big part of the show 1022 01:00:29,879 --> 01:00:31,798 because it's very big part of the culture. 1023 01:00:35,969 --> 01:00:37,721 {\an8}[music playing] 1024 01:00:37,804 --> 01:00:41,516 Ré Olunuga is a musical composer. 1025 01:00:44,477 --> 01:00:47,397 [Olunuga] More than anything, I consider myself a storyteller. 1026 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:52,610 {\an8}The medium I use most often is music, but the compulsion is to tell stories. 1027 01:00:54,863 --> 01:00:58,158 The passion for the work really just shows. It's very infectious. 1028 01:00:58,241 --> 01:01:01,619 Yeah. I think overall it's-- it's solid. I mean, it's completely different sound. 1029 01:01:01,703 --> 01:01:03,246 [Olunuga] Working with Ziki has been great. 1030 01:01:03,329 --> 01:01:06,583 Just what he reaches for in his storytelling, 1031 01:01:06,666 --> 01:01:09,544 um, similar things to what I reach for. 1032 01:01:09,627 --> 01:01:13,715 More than anything we share an excitement to tell this type of story. 1033 01:01:13,798 --> 01:01:15,216 [Adeola] He's from Nigeria, 1034 01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:21,097 so he has a very clear and direct understanding of the culture. 1035 01:01:30,023 --> 01:01:33,860 So most of the music is orchestral. 1036 01:01:34,778 --> 01:01:38,990 But Lagos is a unique city. It's a city like no other city. 1037 01:01:39,074 --> 01:01:42,660 So it's probably not gonna evolve in the ways that people expect. 1038 01:01:42,744 --> 01:01:45,038 [playing music] 1039 01:01:45,121 --> 01:01:51,920 We have harp duets, and we have this fusion of 1040 01:01:52,003 --> 01:01:54,839 African instruments and African performers. 1041 01:01:54,923 --> 01:02:00,428 From Afrobeats to highlife that feels recognizable and familiar, 1042 01:02:00,512 --> 01:02:06,017 but also feels representative of an imagined future. 1043 01:02:06,101 --> 01:02:11,064 Um, I'm super excited for today because we're doing some special cues today. 1044 01:02:11,606 --> 01:02:14,234 - Um, I hope that you all have fun. - [chattering] 1045 01:02:14,317 --> 01:02:15,568 It's gonna be awesome. 1046 01:02:15,652 --> 01:02:18,113 So, thank you again. I'm looking forward to it. 1047 01:02:18,196 --> 01:02:19,239 Thank you. 1048 01:02:23,868 --> 01:02:26,705 The first time we were on that scoring stage 1049 01:02:27,288 --> 01:02:31,710 and the conductor gives them the cue… 1050 01:02:31,793 --> 01:02:32,836 [orchestra playing] 1051 01:02:32,919 --> 01:02:34,170 …and they start… 1052 01:02:37,549 --> 01:02:40,844 is one of the most special moments a person, a human can experience 1053 01:02:40,927 --> 01:02:43,930 because it's your dreams coming to life. 1054 01:02:46,182 --> 01:02:47,892 [music continues] 1055 01:02:52,355 --> 01:02:57,402 The process of recording an orchestra, especially for a Disney project, 1056 01:02:57,485 --> 01:02:59,696 is unlike any other thing 1057 01:02:59,779 --> 01:03:03,074 because you're working with some of the best musicians in the world. 1058 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,245 Crescendo for two bars, to mezzo-piano beginning of 18. 1059 01:03:07,328 --> 01:03:11,583 And then you crescendo for one bar at the-- all of 19. And that's a forte. 1060 01:03:11,666 --> 01:03:14,294 [orchestra playing] 1061 01:03:20,759 --> 01:03:23,261 [Kole] She dey tear out the pages and throw them like ninja stars. 1062 01:03:23,345 --> 01:03:25,472 Like… [imitates whooshing sound] 1063 01:03:25,555 --> 01:03:26,765 Eh, eh, eh! Stop this. 1064 01:03:26,848 --> 01:03:28,350 [Kole] Sorry, sa. 1065 01:03:34,189 --> 01:03:35,899 [sighs] Okay. 1066 01:03:45,283 --> 01:03:47,285 …not enough. 1067 01:03:57,712 --> 01:04:00,215 I should hold on to everything they say. 1068 01:04:02,842 --> 01:04:06,721 We're an army to just help tell the story of Iwájú 1069 01:04:06,805 --> 01:04:08,807 [chattering] 1070 01:04:09,641 --> 01:04:11,142 [Adeola] You know, this has been our heartbeat 1071 01:04:11,226 --> 01:04:14,646 for the best part of about three years. 1072 01:04:14,729 --> 01:04:19,401 And so to think that, you know, all of it is coming to an end soon, it's crazy. 1073 01:04:20,694 --> 01:04:22,320 [Olowofoyeku] It's one of those things where 1074 01:04:23,071 --> 01:04:27,575 the impact and effect, I'm starting to see how big it will be. 1075 01:04:28,493 --> 01:04:30,328 [Ibrahim] There is that weight of responsibility. 1076 01:04:30,412 --> 01:04:33,331 It has to live up to the legacy of what it is. 1077 01:04:33,415 --> 01:04:36,918 Because it's such a huge-- it's a very strong, big move 1078 01:04:37,002 --> 01:04:38,378 in African visual storytelling. 1079 01:04:47,053 --> 01:04:54,060 {\an8}The D23 Expo is this incredible gathering of, you know, the greatest Disney fans. 1080 01:04:54,144 --> 01:04:56,021 [chattering] 1081 01:04:56,521 --> 01:04:57,522 Hi! 1082 01:04:58,273 --> 01:05:00,608 [Lee] And for us, it means a lot. 1083 01:05:00,692 --> 01:05:04,863 We actually keep a lot of things secret just to launch here. 1084 01:05:04,946 --> 01:05:07,073 It's an opportunity for us 1085 01:05:07,157 --> 01:05:09,451 as filmmakers to share what are we working on, 1086 01:05:09,534 --> 01:05:13,580 {\an8}to give a little glimpse into behind the scenes of what's happening 1087 01:05:13,663 --> 01:05:15,165 {\an8}at Walt Disney Animation Studios. 1088 01:05:15,248 --> 01:05:18,543 And the story of Iwájú starts to become part of the world. 1089 01:05:22,005 --> 01:05:28,678 [Adeola] It feels very cathartic because I'm here with Tolu and Hamid, 1090 01:05:28,762 --> 01:05:32,182 and I remember when we were just starting Kugali, 1091 01:05:32,265 --> 01:05:36,519 it was just really the three of us who had a dream that we believed in 1092 01:05:36,603 --> 01:05:38,938 and worked very hard. 1093 01:05:39,022 --> 01:05:43,276 [Olowofoyeku] We have not been able to talk about our projects much. 1094 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,112 We've been working on it for almost four years. 1095 01:05:46,613 --> 01:05:49,157 {\an8}It's the first chance that we'll actually get 1096 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,951 {\an8}to share what we've been working on for so long with the world. 1097 01:05:52,035 --> 01:05:54,496 When you're working on something, you think you know what it is 1098 01:05:54,579 --> 01:05:56,206 but you don't know how the world is gonna receive it, 1099 01:05:56,289 --> 01:05:58,166 so I'm looking forward to the world seeing this. 1100 01:05:59,042 --> 01:06:01,503 [Adeola] It's gonna be great to actually finally share it 1101 01:06:01,586 --> 01:06:05,423 and let everyone see the beauty and amazement of Iwájú. 1102 01:06:10,387 --> 01:06:12,764 [Olowofoyeku] For a guy, you look pretty. [laughs] 1103 01:06:12,847 --> 01:06:15,058 - I know. - Oh, boy. 1104 01:06:27,987 --> 01:06:30,407 [Adeola] I'm really just trying to stay present. 1105 01:06:30,490 --> 01:06:35,412 You know, there is obviously a little part of me that is a little bit nervous 1106 01:06:35,495 --> 01:06:38,665 because this is the largest crowd of people 1107 01:06:38,748 --> 01:06:41,793 I will have ever addressed in my life. 1108 01:06:41,876 --> 01:06:44,129 [Ibrahim] It's been absolutely crazy and I cannot wait to get on stage. 1109 01:06:44,212 --> 01:06:46,423 {\an8}It's like 7,000 people, first time doing this. 1110 01:06:47,966 --> 01:06:51,136 [Lee] Please welcome to the stage the Kugali founders. 1111 01:06:51,219 --> 01:06:52,804 [audience cheering] 1112 01:06:53,471 --> 01:06:54,347 [Ibrahim] Disney! 1113 01:06:54,431 --> 01:06:56,641 - [Adeola] Hey, D23! - [Lee laughs] 1114 01:06:57,350 --> 01:06:58,810 How you guys doing? 1115 01:06:59,394 --> 01:07:02,647 - [Olowofoyeku] Hello, D23. - Are you ready for Africa? 1116 01:07:02,731 --> 01:07:05,608 - [audience cheers] - Yeah! 1117 01:07:13,199 --> 01:07:16,995 [Spencer] To be here, and to have Ziki and Hamid and Tolu all here, 1118 01:07:17,078 --> 01:07:19,497 in front of 7,000 people, 1119 01:07:19,581 --> 01:07:23,835 talking about a project that just a couple years ago did not exist, 1120 01:07:24,544 --> 01:07:28,298 because of a phone call, is an incredible moment in time. 1121 01:07:28,381 --> 01:07:31,760 We are really excited to be working alongside Disney Animation 1122 01:07:31,843 --> 01:07:34,554 to bring you a special story. 1123 01:07:34,637 --> 01:07:36,973 A story from Africa. 1124 01:07:37,057 --> 01:07:40,310 And to see them… 1125 01:07:41,561 --> 01:07:45,565 [sighs] Sorry. Um, you know. 1126 01:07:46,691 --> 01:07:48,693 To see them up there was really special. 1127 01:07:49,277 --> 01:07:51,613 [Lee] My hopes for Iwájú is it's just a beginning. 1128 01:07:51,696 --> 01:07:53,823 Getting stories from around the world 1129 01:07:53,907 --> 01:07:57,952 and being exposed to different kinds of storytelling. 1130 01:07:58,036 --> 01:07:59,621 We're gonna always evolve as storytellers. 1131 01:07:59,704 --> 01:08:01,456 We are going to keep pushing ourselves. 1132 01:08:01,539 --> 01:08:06,461 [Hudson] I hope that people just see true and authentic relationship 1133 01:08:06,544 --> 01:08:11,341 between this girl and her father, this girl and her friend, 1134 01:08:11,966 --> 01:08:16,054 {\an8}through this very, very, very, very, very Nigerian lens. 1135 01:08:16,137 --> 01:08:19,724 {\an8}You know what I mean? And it's just like, that they get all of the culture. 1136 01:08:19,808 --> 01:08:22,477 Just the richness of that, but that they relate to it. 1137 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:27,899 [West] I think when people see Tola in her mansion in Lagos 1138 01:08:27,982 --> 01:08:31,444 that gets up and jumps on her hoverboard and makes puff puffs, 1139 01:08:31,528 --> 01:08:36,199 {\an8}I think people will go, like, "I had no idea how much I needed to see that." 1140 01:08:36,282 --> 01:08:39,619 [Chen] Whether it's some kid in Lagos who sees themselves in the character, 1141 01:08:39,703 --> 01:08:42,122 or someone who's never been to Lagos 1142 01:08:42,205 --> 01:08:43,873 or maybe have never even heard of Lagos, 1143 01:08:43,957 --> 01:08:46,334 and they see a bit of themselves in the characters, 1144 01:08:46,418 --> 01:08:48,670 because I think that if something resonates, 1145 01:08:48,753 --> 01:08:51,214 it means it's universal enough to illicit a feeling. 1146 01:08:51,297 --> 01:08:54,384 And I think that's all we're really ever trying to do 1147 01:08:54,467 --> 01:08:56,636 whenever we tell these stories at Disney. 1148 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:58,847 {\an8}I've seen a story come to life, 1149 01:08:58,930 --> 01:09:04,853 {\an8}I've seen a beautiful story just emerge out of artistic ambition 1150 01:09:04,936 --> 01:09:08,606 and… but I'm really, really excited for the audience. 1151 01:09:08,690 --> 01:09:11,860 I'm hoping that they find it as special as we do. 1152 01:09:11,943 --> 01:09:15,780 {\an8}What this is doing, it's saying there are possibilities. 1153 01:09:15,864 --> 01:09:18,366 You can tell all kinds of stories 1154 01:09:18,450 --> 01:09:20,869 and the world will see it and celebrate it. 1155 01:09:20,952 --> 01:09:24,289 They say people from Africa, you have a lot of spice and pepper to their food. 1156 01:09:24,372 --> 01:09:27,083 I think we're the spice and pepper to Disney that they needed. 1157 01:09:27,167 --> 01:09:30,420 I hope Iwájú launches the next generation of artists. 1158 01:09:30,503 --> 01:09:34,174 I hope it's a point of inspiration for artists all over the continent. 1159 01:09:34,257 --> 01:09:35,925 All over the world as well. 1160 01:09:36,009 --> 01:09:40,096 Just to dare to tell stories differently. To dare to do things in a different way. 1161 01:09:40,180 --> 01:09:46,144 I feel like life is going to change permanently for myself, Hamid and Tolu. 1162 01:09:46,227 --> 01:09:50,732 And it's somewhat surreal and, honestly, a little bit daunting. 1163 01:09:50,815 --> 01:09:55,195 There is nothing in the 100-year portfolio of Disney Animation 1164 01:09:55,278 --> 01:09:57,030 that feels like our show. 1165 01:09:57,113 --> 01:09:58,656 It feels very different. 1166 01:09:58,740 --> 01:10:01,993 [Olowofoyeku] You don't think, "I'm going to make a video game 1167 01:10:02,077 --> 01:10:05,121 or a movie with Disney." 1168 01:10:05,789 --> 01:10:11,086 Most people from Africa and Nigeria in particular do not dream that way 1169 01:10:11,169 --> 01:10:13,254 because it just doesn't seem realistic to them. 1170 01:10:13,338 --> 01:10:16,466 I've never been realistic and I think it's worked out very well, 1171 01:10:16,549 --> 01:10:20,387 but I hope that now I can help other people to realize 1172 01:10:20,470 --> 01:10:22,097 their dreams don't turn to dust. 99345

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