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I took the...
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government's...
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advice to...
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Fuck, what do you call it?
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- Retrain?
- Retrain.
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I've retrained as a ceramicist because...
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it's no longer viable to be a musician.
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- Touring artist. Yeah.
- A touring artist.
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So, much to my manager's horror,
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I've now retrained as a ceramicist.
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These are Staffordshire sculptures.
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Original ones.
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Beautiful.
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With a flat back.
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- Yeah. Assembly line.
- They're just trinkets.
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They're basically...
And they are made by children.
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- Really?
- Yeah.
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Basically, children on assembly lines
in the Victorian era.
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Small hands, and...
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- That's beautiful.
- That one there,
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that one up there, was the first one
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which was a saint boiling in oil.
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- Yeah.
- Right.
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But the glaze was all wrong
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and we didn't know
what colours it was going to be.
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That wasn't very successful.
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That I felt a little bit like,
"This is not as easy as it looks."
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Yeah.
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That's the original drawing...
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Yeah, that was the original drawing.
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- Is that Nick's drawing?
- Yeah.
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That's what I wanted to make.
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Like, it was just
a saint boiling in oil, right?
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Anyway, should we just start doing them?
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Yeah. Take us on a tour
of the life of the Devil from birth.
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Hang on. Well, I can...
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Okay, so...
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Basically, it's telling a story,
in 18 figurines,
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of the story of the Devil.
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This one is just a resin one.
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None of these have been glazed.
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That is the Devil...
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as a baby.
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It's called "The Devil Awakens".
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Nestled in this foal here.
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This is "The Devil Inherits The World".
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And he is now a boy.
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This is the Devil now as a child.
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And he's with a little monkey there.
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A little brown monkey.
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This one is the Devil with a sailor.
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So this one is the Devil's first love.
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So he's growing up
and doing bold, dangerous things.
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The Devil now goes to war.
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This is called "The Devil Rides to War".
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And these little rabbits,
you see here these rabbits,
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will all be gold, gilded rabbits.
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He's a young man.
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He's a young man off to war, yeah?
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Yeah.
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So this is "The Devil
Returns From The War".
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He is now a different person.
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His horns are bigger.
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And he's coming back from war
covered in medals.
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Emboldened and made powerful
by the experience of war,
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walking through a field of skulls.
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Here is "The Devil Takes a Wife".
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She's holding the little rabbit.
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The rabbits feature every now and then.
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Naked.
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Okay, then...
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Then the Devil...
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This is "The Devil
Who Kills His First Child".
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And there's "The Devil
Sacrificing A Child".
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So the Devil is now...
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Has separated himself
from the world through...
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through his transgressions.
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And here is...
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the world operating as normal.
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Rabbits.
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Children.
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Life goes on,
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and he is contemplating the world.
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This is "The Devil In Remorse".
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For his...
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He is alone and separated from the world.
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And kneeling in a pile of skulls.
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"The Devil Has Grown Old".
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And this is "The Devil's Last Dance".
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This is called "The
Devil Bleeds To Death".
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And he's dying.
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And he's dying in the arms of two sailors
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who are holding him as he bleeds out.
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Down, the blood will all run down here,
into a big lake.
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Into a lake at the front of his blood,
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where these two white swans...
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Whatever swans do.
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Two, sort of, goat-like things,
and two women holding torches.
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And this is the final...
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This is the final one.
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So, it's only a resin
mould, so it's not...
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It's going to be very beautiful, this one.
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This is the Devil,
essentially, dumped somewhere.
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His body left to die and rot.
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And a child is kneeling down
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and presenting its hand
as a gesture of forgiveness to the Devil.
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It's going to be very, very beautiful.
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What's it called, Nick?
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That one, that's called
"The Devil Forgiven".
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Here we go.
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Marianne, would you
like to be in the chair?
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Or would you want to stay in that?
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- No, chair. Yes.
- Chair, okay.
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- Should we put you in?
- Yes.
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Okay.
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I can't really have this...
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- You ready?
- Yes.
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Let's go around.
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Okay.
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I hope they're not filming this.
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I bet they are.
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We always are, Marianne.
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Oh, dear.
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But I'll make a deal with you.
If you don't like it...
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No, really, you've got to remember
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how ill I've been,
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and how it still is.
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Now, let's get rid of that. Okay.
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So, where's my lyrics?
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- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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And it has to be really disciplined
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because I can't breathe properly.
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And you have to say, "Now, do it."
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- And I'll do it.
- Okay.
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And then I have to take my oxygen off.
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Okay.
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- Do you understand?
- I do.
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Good.
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Now, Waz, have you got your computer?
Are you set up?
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- Warren?
- Yes.
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Did he call you "Waz"?
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- He did, Marianne. Yeah.
- Waz.
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Is that your nickname?
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Well, yeah...
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That's terrible.
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It's easy.
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- Waz?
- Waz is his nickname.
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Waz... It was.
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I'm shocked.
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Why?
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- I don't know, I just am.
- You know Australians.
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They kind of do that.
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What?
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You know how Australians
do that kind of thing?
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I suppose that they do, don't they?
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Warren is Waz, Barry is Baz.
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Yeah.
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What's yours?
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- Andrew.
- Right.
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Well, there you are, you see.
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Nobody can shorten Marianne, either.
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- Really?
- No.
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You've never had a nickname?
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- Never.
- It's not Faithfull?
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- Faithfull.
- Faithless.
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Are we ready?
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- How's about it, Chris?
- Yeah.
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- Amy?
- Yes, I'm here.
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Let me know what's happening.
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Are the strobes ready?
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When he says, "Are we ready?"
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You're meant to say, "Yes."
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I want a yes or a no
if the strobes are fixed.
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- They are.
- Yes, they are.
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- Okay, so...
- Okay.
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Right.
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- So, Marianne, we're ready.
- Right.
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We can take your oxygen off.
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Can you take it off?
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Okay.
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And put a bit more on my cheek, quickly.
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- Right. Okay.
- Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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- All right. Everyone ready?
- Yeah.
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Let's fade out the light.
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- Yeah.
- Action.
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That's your cue, Chris.
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"Prayer before work."
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"Great One, austere,
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"by whose intent
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"the distant star holds its course clear.
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"Now, make this spirit soar.
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"Give it that ease
out of the absolute abstracted grief.
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"Comfortless, mute, sound the clear note,"
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"pure, piercing as the flute,
give it precision."
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"Austere, Great One,
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"by whose grace,
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"the unalterable song,
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"may still be rested from"
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"the corrupt lung."
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"Give it strict form."
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Oh, dude.
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That's sweet.
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Done that.
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Back in ice sculpture business.
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Done that.
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Waiting For You, done that.
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Bright Horses, done that.
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So, Hollywood...
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Yeah.
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Crank it out.
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Come in.
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I left about a week ago
and came back in, and it was just like...
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The TV was, literally, lying face down.
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It's got this big smashed up thing on it.
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It's just shit everywhere.
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Like the TV'd had a party.
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Thrown itself out the...
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Threw itself out the window.
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The TV is just like,
"Fuck it all," you know.
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It was so funny.
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Have you seen this?
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It's really beautiful.
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This herbarium... It's a reproduction.
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It's really incredible.
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Emily Dickinson, the poet, yeah.
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So, what, is that her herbarium?
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It was when she was 14
and she made it, and then...
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It's now in, like...
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I think it's the most
fragile book that exists.
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They photographed it,
and made this facsimile of it.
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It's so beautiful.
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It was funny going through
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- the sessions last night, looking...
- Yeah.
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I remembered that, like...
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Have a look at this.
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Holy, fucking shit!
Look at his desktop, Robbie.
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Fucking, what a nightmare!
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How do you find anything, mate?
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Perfection, isn't it?
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Why, isn't everyone's like that?
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I don't really
have a sense of form and order.
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So we could, sort of,
can cut that into it later,
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but it's really about
just being in the moment,
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and, I guess, seeing what happens.
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We're just throwing things down,
like sit down and start playing.
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And you are looking for those moments
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in amongst the hours, and hours,
and hours of stuff.
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No, I actually had songs...
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I actually had song lyrics,
but I know from experience,
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that those songs...
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probably won't amount to anything.
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The thing that's great working with Nick
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is that he's up for trying anything.
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And more so, and more, and more.
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Warren is almost always on transmit,
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and not so much on receive, I would say.
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Although, he might
see that as unfair and wrong.
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I remember with Ghosteen,
towards the last day of the first session,
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Nick got up and just walked out,
and he just goes,
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"I can't deal with any more soft pad."
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That was that sound that kept playing.
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And I was just playing it
for 30 minutes at a time.
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00:56:47,417 --> 00:56:50,584
It's almost pointless,
me sitting down and writing a song
266
00:56:50,709 --> 00:56:52,959
and taking it into the studio because...
267
00:56:55,334 --> 00:56:59,000
Unless I, kind of like,
hold Warren's face and say,
268
00:56:59,125 --> 00:57:02,542
"Warren, I'm going to do a song now."
269
00:57:02,667 --> 00:57:04,500
"It's a song I've written."
270
00:57:04,625 --> 00:57:06,375
"These are the chords."
271
00:57:06,500 --> 00:57:08,250
I don't know what it is with me,
272
00:57:08,375 --> 00:57:12,375
but I will get on something
and then I just can't move away from it.
273
00:57:13,667 --> 00:57:15,042
And I think it's different.
274
00:57:16,834 --> 00:57:18,875
A whole lot of shit happens.
275
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,084
I mean, a whole lot
of terrible shit happens
276
00:57:22,209 --> 00:57:24,042
when me and Warren get into a room.
277
00:57:24,167 --> 00:57:27,084
But there are these
moments when it just...
278
00:57:36,667 --> 00:57:40,375
It gets into this
strange meditative state.
279
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:44,292
You just have no idea what is going on.
280
00:57:44,625 --> 00:57:46,667
And that's when stuff happens.
281
00:57:57,459 --> 00:58:01,792
It just clicks into something
transcendent, as far as I'm concerned.
282
00:58:01,917 --> 00:58:04,084
I'm literally taken away by it.
283
00:58:04,209 --> 00:58:06,792
I'm amazed by...
284
00:58:06,917 --> 00:58:08,625
Not at the time,
285
00:58:09,417 --> 00:58:11,875
although I get lost in it at the time,
286
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,792
but you just suddenly hear these things
and go, "Oh, my God!"
287
00:58:16,917 --> 00:58:19,792
But they are just snippets
in an ocean of bullshit...
288
00:58:19,917 --> 00:58:20,917
- Yeah.
- You know.
289
00:58:30,125 --> 00:58:31,584
We're just messing around.
290
00:58:33,959 --> 00:58:35,709
- There we go.
- Yeah, here it goes.
291
00:59:02,084 --> 00:59:05,292
It's difficult to perform even,
because I'm just
292
00:59:05,417 --> 00:59:07,458
- waiting for the fucking chord.
- Waiting for the chord.
293
00:59:07,459 --> 00:59:09,542
'Cause it feels unnaturally slow.
294
00:59:10,542 --> 00:59:11,875
Why don't we try it without it?
295
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,334
Yeah, it's just getting your sound
and stuff like that.
296
00:59:16,459 --> 00:59:18,334
- We got all that going?
- Yeah.
297
00:59:20,792 --> 00:59:22,209
Yeah.
298
00:59:22,917 --> 00:59:24,625
Yeah, I don't need much of that.
299
00:59:26,875 --> 00:59:31,500
How did he fit into the Bad Seeds
when it was Mick and Blixa, and all that?
300
00:59:31,625 --> 00:59:34,417
He took a subordinate role, right,
301
00:59:34,542 --> 00:59:38,209
of just embellishing
what was already going on there.
302
00:59:38,334 --> 00:59:42,959
And slowly, one by one,
taking out each member of the Bad Seeds.
303
00:59:45,250 --> 00:59:47,250
I think you better watch out, mate.
304
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:49,459
It might just be me and Waz left.
305
00:59:49,584 --> 00:59:50,375
Yeah, I know.
306
00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:52,125
I know I'm the next to go.
307
00:59:53,667 --> 00:59:55,709
He's singing a lot more, I've noticed.
308
00:59:56,959 --> 00:59:57,959
Yeah.
309
00:59:58,584 --> 00:59:59,375
- Ready?
- Yeah.
310
00:59:59,500 --> 01:00:01,260
- All right, stand by!
- Good luck, everyone!
311
01:07:52,584 --> 01:07:54,834
There are thousands of questions here.
312
01:07:54,959 --> 01:07:55,750
Thousands, and thousands.
313
01:07:55,875 --> 01:08:01,834
There are 38,065 questions.
314
01:08:01,959 --> 01:08:03,875
Now, I won't read them all to you.
315
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:04,667
Obviously.
316
01:08:04,792 --> 01:08:08,792
But I can just flick through
and grab some, right,
317
01:08:08,917 --> 01:08:09,917
as they come.
318
01:08:12,750 --> 01:08:15,000
"My brother, David, died two years ago.
319
01:08:15,125 --> 01:08:17,875
"He was just 24 and I was 19.
320
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,000
"It feels like everyone
is moving on and forgetting him.
321
01:08:21,125 --> 01:08:23,709
"And I'm afraid of letting go of my anger.
322
01:08:23,834 --> 01:08:26,042
"What if I don't know who I am without it?"
323
01:08:26,917 --> 01:08:31,167
"For so long has my grief
been an inextricable part of me."
324
01:08:31,709 --> 01:08:32,750
"Allison."
325
01:08:35,042 --> 01:08:37,959
The thing I really love
about The Red Hand Files,
326
01:08:38,084 --> 01:08:42,375
and why I almost consider
this to be like a spiritual practice,
327
01:08:43,209 --> 01:08:46,917
is that I'm forced to think
about these questions
328
01:08:48,959 --> 01:08:50,875
and not respond immediately.
329
01:08:51,042 --> 01:08:54,084
When I do respond immediately,
330
01:08:54,209 --> 01:08:59,459
in my mind, I don't respond with the
better part of my nature, I would say.
331
01:08:59,584 --> 01:09:00,792
- Does that make sense?
- Yeah.
332
01:09:01,792 --> 01:09:06,167
It requires some days
to think about what the person is saying,
333
01:09:06,292 --> 01:09:08,709
and to arrive at a compassionate...
334
01:09:10,500 --> 01:09:12,084
relationship to the question
335
01:09:12,209 --> 01:09:15,625
and to the person who is writing it.
336
01:09:15,750 --> 01:09:18,209
That actually doesn't
come naturally to me.
337
01:09:18,709 --> 01:09:23,500
And so, The Red Hand Files, literally,
keep me at the better end of my nature.
338
01:09:25,375 --> 01:09:26,709
Billy from Scotland.
339
01:09:28,667 --> 01:09:30,375
"My wife has thrown me out.
340
01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:32,917
"I've lost my job, all within a week."
341
01:09:33,042 --> 01:09:35,209
"Suicidal thoughts in abundance."
342
01:09:35,917 --> 01:09:40,459
"How does one handle having
seemingly no control over one's life?"
343
01:09:41,209 --> 01:09:44,167
This is a really beautiful question, too.
344
01:09:45,917 --> 01:09:47,542
And incredibly sad.
345
01:09:47,667 --> 01:09:51,000
They are incredibly moving,
these questions, because...
346
01:09:56,959 --> 01:09:57,959
You know, you don't...
347
01:09:59,334 --> 01:10:01,042
If something happens to you,
348
01:10:01,167 --> 01:10:04,417
the first thing that comes to mind
is not to write to...
349
01:10:06,334 --> 01:10:08,625
These are desperate questions
350
01:10:08,750 --> 01:10:12,084
from people who don't have anyone to ask.
351
01:10:12,792 --> 01:10:17,875
They are just sending these questions
out into the, whatever...
352
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,500
- The void. Yeah.
- To the void, yeah.
353
01:15:39,542 --> 01:15:40,709
Dear Billy,
354
01:15:42,917 --> 01:15:45,625
the majority of letters
that come into The Red Hand Files,
355
01:15:45,750 --> 01:15:47,792
in all their various forms,
356
01:15:47,917 --> 01:15:50,459
are essentially asking the same question.
357
01:15:50,584 --> 01:15:51,959
Your question.
358
01:15:52,084 --> 01:15:53,124
How are you, Corin?
359
01:15:53,125 --> 01:15:54,375
Yeah, good. Yeah, really good.
360
01:15:54,500 --> 01:15:56,459
Haven't seen you since yesterday.
361
01:15:57,125 --> 01:16:00,542
How do I handle seemingly
having no control over my life?
362
01:16:01,792 --> 01:16:03,292
This question is often accompanied
363
01:16:03,417 --> 01:16:06,500
by feelings of betrayal,
and rage, and resentfulness,
364
01:16:06,625 --> 01:16:08,334
of hopelessness.
365
01:16:11,625 --> 01:16:14,959
The truth is
we all live our lives dangerously
366
01:16:15,084 --> 01:16:18,292
in a state of jeopardy,
at the edge of calamity.
367
01:16:19,084 --> 01:16:21,625
You have discovered
that the veil that separates
368
01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:23,875
your ordered life from disarray
369
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:25,334
is wafer thin.
370
01:16:26,375 --> 01:16:29,084
This is the ordinary truth of existence
371
01:16:29,209 --> 01:16:31,917
from which none of us are exempt.
372
01:16:32,042 --> 01:16:35,417
In time, we all find out
we are not in control.
373
01:16:35,542 --> 01:16:36,709
We never were.
374
01:16:36,834 --> 01:16:38,500
We never will be.
375
01:16:40,500 --> 01:16:42,625
But we are not without power.
376
01:16:44,167 --> 01:16:45,750
We always have the freedom to choose
377
01:16:45,875 --> 01:16:49,209
how we will respond
to whatever it is that life offers us.
378
01:16:51,084 --> 01:16:53,375
You can collapse and be dragged under.
379
01:16:55,084 --> 01:16:58,459
You can harden around your misfortune
and become embittered.
380
01:16:59,584 --> 01:17:03,250
Or you can move toward the opportunity
that is offered to you.
381
01:17:03,375 --> 01:17:05,417
That of change and renewal.
382
01:17:07,584 --> 01:17:11,459
The next best action
is always presented to you, Billy.
383
01:17:11,584 --> 01:17:14,209
Look for it and move toward it.
384
01:17:15,084 --> 01:17:20,084
This is the great act of insubordination
toward the vagaries of life
385
01:17:20,209 --> 01:17:21,750
afforded to us all.
386
01:17:22,875 --> 01:17:24,167
Love, Nick.
387
01:17:24,292 --> 01:17:25,667
Say something...
388
01:17:25,792 --> 01:17:28,000
Are these better for me than in-ear?
389
01:17:28,125 --> 01:17:29,500
Let's put it down, Nick.
390
01:17:29,625 --> 01:17:32,334
Yeah, put it down as low as you can.
391
01:17:32,459 --> 01:17:34,417
- Better? I don't know.
- You tell me.
392
01:17:34,542 --> 01:17:36,625
I can do what you tell me
if you want me to hold it.
393
01:17:36,750 --> 01:17:38,875
No, no, no, a bit of balance is good.
394
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,667
Okay, we need to shut the curtain.
395
01:17:40,792 --> 01:17:42,500
- We need to shut the curtain!
- Mark it.
396
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:44,000
Thanks.
397
01:17:45,084 --> 01:17:47,292
Okay, everybody just take a minute.
398
01:17:47,417 --> 01:17:48,584
Let's settle.
399
01:24:09,875 --> 01:24:11,084
- Yes.
- Yeah.
400
01:24:11,709 --> 01:24:12,709
Oh, yeah.
401
01:24:31,750 --> 01:24:34,959
Yeah, I'm much happier
now than I used to be.
402
01:24:35,667 --> 01:24:38,375
That's not to say that I don't struggle.
403
01:24:38,500 --> 01:24:42,292
But it's not happiness
that's the most important thing for me.
404
01:24:43,417 --> 01:24:45,834
It's like having
a sense of meaning about things.
405
01:24:45,959 --> 01:24:48,834
I really feel much more connected to that.
406
01:24:48,959 --> 01:24:50,584
And that respect makes me happier.
407
01:24:50,709 --> 01:24:54,000
That I do feel a real sense of meaning...
408
01:24:55,375 --> 01:24:59,584
in my life that's not
dependent on my work.
409
01:24:59,709 --> 01:25:02,542
It's not dependent on my creative life.
410
01:25:04,084 --> 01:25:06,625
That feels like I'm
moving towards something,
411
01:25:06,750 --> 01:25:09,709
that feels like the world
is a meaningful place.
412
01:25:11,167 --> 01:25:14,792
The very nature of
the world is meaningful.
413
01:25:17,084 --> 01:25:21,167
And people are meaningful beings.
414
01:29:07,084 --> 01:29:08,084
Come on.
415
01:29:09,209 --> 01:29:10,292
Come down.
416
01:29:12,792 --> 01:29:14,084
Come towards us.
417
01:29:17,917 --> 01:29:19,084
Thank you, all,
418
01:29:20,125 --> 01:29:23,750
for looking after us
and everything you've done.
419
01:29:25,709 --> 01:29:27,042
It's been very beautiful.
420
01:29:27,417 --> 01:29:28,459
Thank you, all.
421
01:29:35,875 --> 01:29:37,250
The singers.
422
01:29:37,375 --> 01:29:39,042
The strings.
423
01:29:41,542 --> 01:29:43,459
Now that kind of feels like an ending.
424
01:29:43,584 --> 01:29:45,042
- The Covid lady.
- But it's not.
425
01:29:46,959 --> 01:29:48,917
Okay, it's not. Not at all.
426
01:29:49,417 --> 01:29:50,625
Back to one.
427
01:29:54,084 --> 01:29:55,084
All right.
428
01:29:57,500 --> 01:29:58,625
That might be the ending.
429
01:29:58,750 --> 01:29:59,750
Okay.
430
01:30:16,834 --> 01:30:19,084
"Thank you for the words, the music,
431
01:30:19,209 --> 01:30:21,875
"the grounding sanity
that your music brings to me"
432
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:23,792
"in my times of strife."
433
01:30:26,334 --> 01:30:29,167
"I'm curious, behind it all,
the music, the words,
434
01:30:29,292 --> 01:30:32,375
"the suits, the grief, the tenderness,
435
01:30:32,500 --> 01:30:34,875
"and shame, and guilt, and joy,"
436
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,042
"who are you?"
437
01:30:36,792 --> 01:30:38,334
"Kev, from Ireland."
438
01:30:42,917 --> 01:30:44,292
How do you answer that one?
439
01:30:51,125 --> 01:30:51,834
I don't know.
440
01:30:51,959 --> 01:30:57,375
I think I would define myself
differently now than I would have...
441
01:30:59,375 --> 01:31:00,250
some years ago.
442
01:31:00,375 --> 01:31:03,167
I would have defined myself as a musician,
443
01:31:03,792 --> 01:31:05,000
or a writer.
444
01:31:05,875 --> 01:31:11,709
And I'm trying to wean myself
off those definitions of myself
445
01:31:11,834 --> 01:31:14,167
that are about my occupation.
446
01:31:14,292 --> 01:31:16,417
And see myself as a person.
447
01:31:18,209 --> 01:31:20,667
As a husband, as a father.
448
01:31:24,834 --> 01:31:28,167
As a husband, and father,
449
01:31:28,292 --> 01:31:29,875
and friend,
450
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,917
and citizen that makes music
and writes stuff.
451
01:31:34,667 --> 01:31:36,292
Rather than the other way around.
452
01:35:47,959 --> 01:35:50,959
But despite getting annoyed,
and stuff like that,
453
01:35:51,084 --> 01:35:52,834
I really loved doing this film.
454
01:35:53,667 --> 01:35:54,792
I mean, I don't like...
455
01:35:56,125 --> 01:35:56,792
being...
456
01:35:56,917 --> 01:35:59,084
I don't like the process of making films.
457
01:35:59,209 --> 01:36:00,500
Mate, no one does.
458
01:36:00,625 --> 01:36:01,625
- No, no.
- Yeah.
459
01:36:01,750 --> 01:36:03,667
I was talking to Earl...
460
01:36:03,792 --> 01:36:05,500
I'm talking to Earl on the phone.
461
01:36:05,625 --> 01:36:07,542
Let's say hi to Earl.
462
01:36:10,209 --> 01:36:11,209
But...
463
01:36:11,334 --> 01:36:13,750
You're being filmed
now, so you better hide.
464
01:36:13,875 --> 01:36:15,334
No, don't hide, Earl-ie.
465
01:36:15,834 --> 01:36:17,542
I'm not hiding, I'm right here.
466
01:36:18,500 --> 01:36:22,500
I was lying on the floor of my band room
in the fetal position,
467
01:36:22,875 --> 01:36:24,375
in between...
468
01:36:24,500 --> 01:36:29,750
Before I had to go on
and redo Balcony Man.
469
01:36:30,500 --> 01:36:33,750
Redoing it. I don't know what you guys
did the fucking first time around.
470
01:36:33,875 --> 01:36:36,833
Yeah, when you see it, you're going to go,
"Wow, that's fucking awesome."
471
01:36:36,834 --> 01:36:38,709
And Earl was like...
472
01:36:38,834 --> 01:36:42,042
I'm like, "Fuck!
He wants me to go and redo it."
473
01:36:42,167 --> 01:36:45,500
And he goes...
'Cause he's in Belfast making a movie.
474
01:36:45,625 --> 01:36:49,542
He's going, "Dad, I know it's real hard."
475
01:36:49,667 --> 01:36:51,959
"I know it's really difficult
to make a movie."
476
01:36:52,084 --> 01:36:53,124
"It really gets under your skin."
477
01:36:53,125 --> 01:36:56,084
"But what you need to do
is stop being such a fucking pussy."
478
01:36:58,417 --> 01:37:00,875
And I'm like, "Okay."
479
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,375
He goes, "Get up on your fucking feet
and go and do the song."
480
01:37:04,500 --> 01:37:05,624
- I'll call you later then.
- All right.
481
01:37:05,625 --> 01:37:06,250
See ya, Earl!
482
01:37:06,375 --> 01:37:08,042
Are you okay, you okay there?
483
01:37:08,167 --> 01:37:09,407
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- All right.
484
01:37:09,875 --> 01:37:11,250
See ya.
485
01:37:11,375 --> 01:37:12,917
Bye, bye, bye.
486
01:41:42,417 --> 01:41:44,209
- Yeah!
- Yeah.
487
01:41:44,334 --> 01:41:45,459
I mean...
488
01:41:45,584 --> 01:41:48,375
Yeah, and just join the Kumbaya.
489
01:41:53,042 --> 01:41:54,625
Do I have to do the um bay as?
490
01:41:55,334 --> 01:41:57,667
Mate, you're not getting
out of the um bay as.
491
01:41:58,750 --> 01:41:59,834
Dude.
492
01:42:03,084 --> 01:42:05,709
How was that fucking flare, Robbie,
493
01:42:05,834 --> 01:42:07,334
right on the piano note?
494
01:42:07,667 --> 01:42:09,709
Unbelievable.
495
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:10,625
Awesome.
496
01:42:10,750 --> 01:42:13,542
Okay, we can stop
going around in circles now.
497
01:42:14,417 --> 01:42:16,177
- Yeah!
- Thank God for that. Well done, Rob.
498
01:42:16,750 --> 01:42:17,750
Windows up.
499
01:42:40,875 --> 01:42:41,750
Yeah.
500
01:42:41,875 --> 01:42:44,084
So, in the original,
it plays in the second half.
501
01:42:44,209 --> 01:42:46,709
We were playing the second half
of the first verse.
502
01:42:46,834 --> 01:42:48,084
Is that what happens?
503
01:42:48,834 --> 01:42:49,959
Yeah, the second half.
504
01:42:50,084 --> 01:42:52,042
It's cutting out, Jake.
505
01:42:52,167 --> 01:42:53,374
I think you better unrotate it.
506
01:42:53,375 --> 01:42:56,500
But you were very...
507
01:42:56,625 --> 01:42:58,105
It's not good for it with the lights.
508
01:42:58,209 --> 01:43:00,208
- They seem not to be as strong, yeah.
- Yeah, Susie's not gonna come tomorrow.
509
01:43:00,209 --> 01:43:02,000
It is cutting... It's still the same.
510
01:43:02,125 --> 01:43:03,250
Okay, so...
511
01:43:03,375 --> 01:43:05,792
You can, but I'm really...
I'm disappointed and upset.
512
01:43:05,917 --> 01:43:08,000
We go back to...
513
01:43:08,125 --> 01:43:11,875
She's sick from the vaccine.
514
01:43:12,500 --> 01:43:14,959
- It's now day three.
- Yeah.
515
01:43:15,084 --> 01:43:17,625
If she's still sick tomorrow...
516
01:43:18,084 --> 01:43:20,709
So I feel that she's
just not going to do it.
517
01:43:22,084 --> 01:43:23,375
You can talk to her about it.
518
01:43:44,167 --> 01:43:46,084
- Long, long ago...
- I don't know.
519
01:43:48,834 --> 01:43:50,334
Hello.
520
01:43:51,417 --> 01:43:52,625
No, literally...
521
01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:55,625
Andrew married my...
522
01:43:57,334 --> 01:43:58,375
girlfriend.
523
01:44:01,042 --> 01:44:02,375
Had a baby with her.
524
01:44:05,292 --> 01:44:07,792
- Okay! Do not cut...
- I wrote a song about it.
525
01:44:07,917 --> 01:44:09,101
Let's go to the next
quarter on the clock.
526
01:44:09,102 --> 01:44:09,667
It's called Deanna.
527
01:44:09,792 --> 01:44:11,084
You know that song?
528
01:44:11,209 --> 01:44:12,459
We need to roll again.
529
01:44:12,584 --> 01:44:15,334
Next quarter on the
clock. Quickly, quickly.
530
01:44:15,459 --> 01:44:16,875
- We're rolling.
- He married her.
531
01:44:17,209 --> 01:44:19,375
What are we doing? Come on! Reset!
532
01:44:19,500 --> 01:44:20,584
What do you mean?
533
01:44:22,959 --> 01:44:24,959
Always look at it in terms of distance.
534
01:44:26,542 --> 01:44:29,834
Have you got...
Is there a part for you to play?
535
01:44:30,625 --> 01:44:31,834
Anyone got a pen?
536
01:44:34,667 --> 01:44:35,959
Yeah, can we get coffee?
537
01:44:36,375 --> 01:44:39,042
Get Rachel to get me an America no.
538
01:44:39,167 --> 01:44:42,084
No, just a cup of coffee
with some cold milk in it.
539
01:44:45,209 --> 01:44:46,209
So clever.
540
01:44:48,209 --> 01:44:49,000
You ready?
541
01:44:49,125 --> 01:44:50,375
Let's just do that...
542
01:44:51,334 --> 01:44:53,209
- Camera rolling.
- Camera rolling.
543
01:44:54,334 --> 01:44:56,292
Steadicam will catch up, hopefully.
544
01:44:57,167 --> 01:45:00,792
End board!
545
01:45:00,917 --> 01:45:02,042
Sorry, sorry.
546
01:45:02,167 --> 01:45:03,500
- Cut!
- Sorry.
547
01:45:03,625 --> 01:45:06,209
- Cut! Cut! Cut!
- Sorry.
548
01:45:06,417 --> 01:45:09,084
- Sorry...
- Somebody better run...
549
01:45:09,209 --> 01:45:11,042
Let's start again, shall we?
550
01:45:11,209 --> 01:45:13,500
All I can hear is Andrew screaming.
551
01:45:18,750 --> 01:45:20,625
That's the title of the film.
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