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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,156 --> 00:00:04,497 ♪ 2 00:00:04,597 --> 00:00:09,261 Lincoln: Rick and Michonne are perfect partners in an imperfect world. 3 00:00:09,361 --> 00:00:12,102 Gurira: They first met as reluctant allies, 4 00:00:12,202 --> 00:00:14,584 but over time, their bond grew. 5 00:00:14,684 --> 00:00:18,347 Through so many hardships, so much loss and sacrifice, 6 00:00:18,447 --> 00:00:19,868 they found each other. 7 00:00:19,968 --> 00:00:22,649 Until one day when it all got taken away. 8 00:00:24,250 --> 00:00:27,873 Michonne was fearful that she may have lost Rick forever. 9 00:00:27,973 --> 00:00:30,955 And Rick never stopped thinking about his family 10 00:00:31,055 --> 00:00:33,236 and never stopped trying to get back to them. 11 00:00:33,336 --> 00:00:35,598 But when Michonne made a fateful discovery, 12 00:00:35,698 --> 00:00:37,599 she knew she had to find him. 13 00:00:37,699 --> 00:00:40,241 She had to make her family whole. 14 00:00:40,341 --> 00:00:45,365 ♪ 15 00:00:45,465 --> 00:00:50,328 So how weird is this... after all this time? 16 00:00:50,428 --> 00:00:53,410 Yes, and finishing telling the story 17 00:00:53,510 --> 00:00:58,493 of Rick and Michonne, to be here where it all started. 18 00:00:58,593 --> 00:01:01,495 ♪ 19 00:01:01,595 --> 00:01:03,016 The only thing to really do 20 00:01:03,116 --> 00:01:05,058 is to start at the very beginning, 21 00:01:05,158 --> 00:01:07,980 'cause it's a very good place to start. 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,981 [Herd growling] 23 00:01:10,081 --> 00:01:16,081 ♪ 24 00:01:16,885 --> 00:01:22,885 ♪ 25 00:01:23,650 --> 00:01:26,952 This is approximately where Rick and Michonne first met. 26 00:01:27,052 --> 00:01:28,073 Yeah. 27 00:01:28,173 --> 00:01:30,995 How did you feel that day? 28 00:01:31,095 --> 00:01:32,516 What do you mean, how do I feel? 29 00:01:32,616 --> 00:01:33,677 How did you? 30 00:01:33,777 --> 00:01:35,238 What? Meeting you, or... 31 00:01:35,338 --> 00:01:36,999 Yeah. Do you remember it? 32 00:01:37,099 --> 00:01:40,641 I think... I do remember. Of course I remember it. 33 00:01:40,741 --> 00:01:42,683 'Cause I think he was going through 34 00:01:42,783 --> 00:01:45,004 quite a defensive phase 35 00:01:45,104 --> 00:01:49,207 where he was very distrustful, and seeing somebody 36 00:01:49,307 --> 00:01:51,889 with a katana and two zombies with their... 37 00:01:51,989 --> 00:01:53,850 Okay, you don't... you don't remember. 38 00:01:53,950 --> 00:01:55,291 Oh. I have no idea. 39 00:01:55,391 --> 00:01:56,932 I'm leaving, guys. Yeah. [Laughter] 40 00:01:57,032 --> 00:01:58,929 Going down memory lane with someone with no memories. 41 00:01:58,953 --> 00:02:01,375 W... but... How do I do this? 42 00:02:01,475 --> 00:02:02,736 Did I... Come on. 43 00:02:02,836 --> 00:02:05,017 Okay, so to help my colleague out here. 44 00:02:05,117 --> 00:02:06,254 Listen, don't tell them the st... 45 00:02:06,278 --> 00:02:08,820 How I came to the gate was... 46 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:11,742 I didn't have... I didn't have the two zombies. 47 00:02:11,842 --> 00:02:14,384 I was covered in zombie gunk. 48 00:02:14,484 --> 00:02:16,985 Okay, so you didn't have the two people on the chains? No. 49 00:02:17,085 --> 00:02:20,268 They were long gone. I got rid of them long before I met you. 50 00:02:20,368 --> 00:02:23,910 Oh, my God. There were a lot of walkers clinging onto this fence. 51 00:02:24,010 --> 00:02:25,351 Yeah. 52 00:02:25,451 --> 00:02:26,832 And you're standing there and... 53 00:02:26,932 --> 00:02:28,753 And Carl's there as well. Should we help her? 54 00:02:28,853 --> 00:02:30,354 [Herd growling] 55 00:02:30,454 --> 00:02:32,916 'Cause he was the one that convinced me to go and get you. 56 00:02:33,016 --> 00:02:35,598 And that's when Carl says, "We have to..." 57 00:02:35,698 --> 00:02:37,298 Says, "We got to..." Yeah, that's right. 58 00:02:37,379 --> 00:02:38,836 And pushes for her to be saved. No, I do remember that. 59 00:02:38,860 --> 00:02:41,202 Guys, everybody calm down. 60 00:02:41,302 --> 00:02:43,803 [Gunshots] 61 00:02:43,903 --> 00:02:45,905 Carl. 62 00:02:46,425 --> 00:02:48,566 That was a memorable way for the characters to meet. 63 00:02:48,666 --> 00:02:50,087 It was a great way, yeah. 64 00:02:50,187 --> 00:02:52,649 And also because they're so similar in temperament 65 00:02:52,749 --> 00:02:54,811 and personality, there's a kind of 66 00:02:54,911 --> 00:02:57,853 they're alpha, they're independent, they're stubborn. 67 00:02:57,953 --> 00:03:01,015 It wasn't easy for them when they started. Yeah. 68 00:03:01,115 --> 00:03:02,816 It was such a counter experience 69 00:03:02,916 --> 00:03:04,977 for Michonne from the Governor. Yeah. 70 00:03:05,077 --> 00:03:08,099 'Cause the Governor, he was trying to charm her 71 00:03:08,199 --> 00:03:10,301 and sort of woo her into his little... 72 00:03:10,401 --> 00:03:12,022 Yeah, and she was like, "Mnh-mnh." 73 00:03:12,122 --> 00:03:13,503 And she does have respect for Rick 74 00:03:13,603 --> 00:03:15,745 even before she meets him, because of Andrea. 75 00:03:15,845 --> 00:03:18,466 And so she knows it's time to not be a loner anymore. 76 00:03:18,566 --> 00:03:20,828 But the Governor was trying to treat her all good 77 00:03:20,928 --> 00:03:22,949 and she's, like, flipping swords in them 78 00:03:23,049 --> 00:03:24,991 and killing his zombie daughter. 79 00:03:25,091 --> 00:03:26,432 [Growls] 80 00:03:26,532 --> 00:03:29,394 But when she comes here, Rick is hostile, 81 00:03:29,494 --> 00:03:31,355 but Michonne trusts that. 82 00:03:31,455 --> 00:03:33,636 She trusts that, considering the world they're in, 83 00:03:33,736 --> 00:03:35,197 considering the man she knows he is, 84 00:03:35,297 --> 00:03:37,439 considering who he's protecting. Yeah. 85 00:03:37,539 --> 00:03:39,979 And she has a lot of grace for Rick from the jump. Yeah, yeah. 86 00:03:40,061 --> 00:03:43,003 So when you joined, Danai, we were in season three. 87 00:03:43,103 --> 00:03:44,964 What did you feel joining this cast? 88 00:03:45,064 --> 00:03:46,565 Were we a welcoming cast? 89 00:03:46,665 --> 00:03:48,566 Yeah, everyone was amazing. 90 00:03:48,666 --> 00:03:51,088 I remember I became immediately very close to Lauren 91 00:03:51,188 --> 00:03:53,930 and of course to the awesome Steven Yeun 92 00:03:54,030 --> 00:03:56,171 and of course to Laurie Holden. 93 00:03:56,271 --> 00:03:57,808 You did a lot of stuff... And you were okay. 94 00:03:57,832 --> 00:03:59,053 You were all right. 95 00:03:59,153 --> 00:04:00,610 You were nice... you were nice enough. 96 00:04:00,634 --> 00:04:02,055 You know? It was like, "Okay." 97 00:04:02,155 --> 00:04:04,577 Yeah. No, I'm kidding. You were very sweet. 98 00:04:04,677 --> 00:04:06,378 Apart from when I dropped you. 99 00:04:06,478 --> 00:04:08,139 Well, yeah. I mean, that was a funny day. 100 00:04:08,239 --> 00:04:09,780 You want to tell it? 101 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,302 No, you tell it 'cause it's always gonna end up going there. 102 00:04:12,402 --> 00:04:15,824 If you tell it, then, you know, it'll... it'll lighten it up. 103 00:04:15,924 --> 00:04:18,586 Okay, so we had a policy. In the sense that you lighten up for you. 104 00:04:18,686 --> 00:04:20,588 We had a policy when we were filming 105 00:04:20,688 --> 00:04:22,949 that we didn't throw marks down. 106 00:04:23,049 --> 00:04:26,231 The crew were absolutely the heart and soul 107 00:04:26,331 --> 00:04:27,792 of "The Walking Dead." 108 00:04:27,892 --> 00:04:30,594 And we had this environment where everybody kept acting 109 00:04:30,694 --> 00:04:34,597 at all times, and we didn't call "cut." 110 00:04:34,697 --> 00:04:36,598 What does this have to do... I'm getting there. 111 00:04:36,698 --> 00:04:39,560 [Laughs] This is... This is basically protecting myself. 112 00:04:39,660 --> 00:04:41,882 The scene goes where... I see you drop. 113 00:04:41,982 --> 00:04:43,963 I'm like, "I don't think she should come in here. 114 00:04:44,063 --> 00:04:46,565 She's got a katana. She's dangerous. We need to..." 115 00:04:46,665 --> 00:04:48,926 And Carl's going, "Get out. We have to save her." 116 00:04:49,026 --> 00:04:51,928 So eventually I do. I concede we're gonna do that. 117 00:04:52,028 --> 00:04:56,932 And it was supposed to cut when I pull you onto my back. 118 00:04:57,032 --> 00:04:59,894 And I didn't do that. 119 00:04:59,994 --> 00:05:04,257 And so I picked you up, got about three steps, 120 00:05:04,357 --> 00:05:06,178 dropped you... And fell. 121 00:05:06,278 --> 00:05:09,700 And then decided to fall on top of you as well, 122 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,582 which wasn't the ideal welcome. 123 00:05:12,682 --> 00:05:14,664 I'm like, "What is this dude doing? 124 00:05:14,764 --> 00:05:16,545 You're not supposed to do this." 125 00:05:16,645 --> 00:05:18,742 I'm just lying there. I'm dead. I'm like, "I'm out. I can't..." 126 00:05:18,766 --> 00:05:20,227 [Laughs] 127 00:05:20,327 --> 00:05:21,628 I remember Lennie James. 128 00:05:21,728 --> 00:05:24,270 We were on the porch in Alexandria at one time 129 00:05:24,370 --> 00:05:28,233 and we watched you, and you had your dreads and your katana, 130 00:05:28,333 --> 00:05:31,675 and you were just sort of walking down the main street. 131 00:05:31,775 --> 00:05:34,197 And he went, "Look at that." And I went, "I know." 132 00:05:34,297 --> 00:05:37,399 And he went, "That's the coolest character." 133 00:05:37,499 --> 00:05:39,560 We'd never seen anything quite like it. 134 00:05:39,660 --> 00:05:43,883 It's so deeply, profoundly, apocalyptically cool. 135 00:05:43,983 --> 00:05:45,364 You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. 136 00:05:45,464 --> 00:05:47,245 [Walkers growling] 137 00:05:47,345 --> 00:05:53,345 ♪ 138 00:05:53,750 --> 00:05:55,287 I think we were just always a bit jealous. 139 00:05:55,311 --> 00:05:56,671 That's probably why I dropped you. 140 00:05:56,752 --> 00:05:59,774 Ha ha ha ha ha. 141 00:05:59,874 --> 00:06:04,657 Speaking of jealous of great, cool characters, 142 00:06:04,757 --> 00:06:06,938 your son, Chandler Riggs. 143 00:06:07,038 --> 00:06:09,500 Yeah. Extraordinary young man. 144 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,662 Yeah. We just struck gold with that kid. 145 00:06:12,762 --> 00:06:16,505 It's an extraordinary bond to see somebody grow up 146 00:06:16,605 --> 00:06:17,906 in front of your eyes on screen 147 00:06:18,006 --> 00:06:19,627 and spend so much time 148 00:06:19,727 --> 00:06:22,589 with this incredibly impressive young man. 149 00:06:22,689 --> 00:06:25,831 It's not the truth, but I spent more time with Chandler Riggs 150 00:06:25,931 --> 00:06:28,953 than my own son for a lot of that decade. 151 00:06:29,053 --> 00:06:32,395 That's not the truth, but it felt like that some days. 152 00:06:32,495 --> 00:06:35,758 And you never know what you're gonna get with young actors 153 00:06:35,858 --> 00:06:37,238 and what they're gonna turn into. 154 00:06:37,338 --> 00:06:40,921 But I think he's a brilliant young man, you know, 155 00:06:41,021 --> 00:06:46,725 and a very, very impressive actor. 156 00:06:46,825 --> 00:06:48,402 And I always sign off "DTVS"... "Deceased TV Son" 157 00:06:48,426 --> 00:06:50,808 is my sign-off with Chandler Riggs. 158 00:06:50,908 --> 00:06:52,708 You know what I mean? It's a bit weird, but... 159 00:06:52,789 --> 00:06:54,730 Yeah, a little... that's the way we roll here. 160 00:06:54,830 --> 00:06:56,531 I couldn't speak more highly of him. 161 00:06:56,631 --> 00:07:00,774 He's so incredible and really was that warm, welcoming heart 162 00:07:00,874 --> 00:07:02,455 that was at the heart of this show. 163 00:07:02,555 --> 00:07:04,497 It was exactly what he did for Michonne 164 00:07:04,597 --> 00:07:06,298 was kind of what I felt he was towards me. 165 00:07:06,398 --> 00:07:07,855 We just really clicked and got along. 166 00:07:07,879 --> 00:07:10,741 I loved my scenes with him so much. 167 00:07:10,841 --> 00:07:12,622 I-I just thought Judith should 168 00:07:12,722 --> 00:07:15,304 should know what her mom looked like. 169 00:07:15,404 --> 00:07:16,985 It was really with Carl 170 00:07:17,085 --> 00:07:19,245 and the idea of this young man growing up in this world 171 00:07:19,326 --> 00:07:21,628 that really warmed her heart and of course 172 00:07:21,728 --> 00:07:23,229 aligned her with you very deeply 173 00:07:23,329 --> 00:07:25,226 to want to keep... preserve him and save his life. 174 00:07:25,250 --> 00:07:27,032 Well, we sort of had this family, didn't we? 175 00:07:27,132 --> 00:07:31,074 It sort of established... before we even fell in love. 176 00:07:31,174 --> 00:07:32,395 What are you doing? 177 00:07:32,495 --> 00:07:33,495 Winning a bet. 178 00:07:33,536 --> 00:07:34,757 In your dreams. 179 00:07:34,857 --> 00:07:37,118 I'm still on. 180 00:07:37,218 --> 00:07:39,360 [Grunts] [Laughs] 181 00:07:39,460 --> 00:07:42,282 You spoke too soon, wise guy. 182 00:07:42,382 --> 00:07:46,965 This might go on a while. Maybe we can speed this up. 183 00:07:47,065 --> 00:07:50,447 Yeah, you're right. Shouldn't be fooling around. 184 00:07:50,547 --> 00:07:52,549 We should probably... Carl! 185 00:07:57,152 --> 00:08:03,152 ♪ 186 00:08:06,037 --> 00:08:12,037 ♪ 187 00:08:14,843 --> 00:08:16,705 Lincoln: This is the one. 188 00:08:16,805 --> 00:08:18,186 'Cause I know from all the scars. 189 00:08:18,286 --> 00:08:20,747 Yeah. 190 00:08:20,847 --> 00:08:22,989 It's so cool. 191 00:08:23,089 --> 00:08:25,070 ♪ 192 00:08:25,170 --> 00:08:28,312 I remember doing an interview with a magazine 193 00:08:28,412 --> 00:08:31,875 and they challenged me to a firing range, 194 00:08:31,975 --> 00:08:34,917 and it's actually really well balanced, this thing. 195 00:08:35,017 --> 00:08:38,759 And I did quite... I don't want to big myself up or anything, 196 00:08:38,859 --> 00:08:40,560 but I got quite a lot. But you will. 197 00:08:40,660 --> 00:08:42,922 But I will right now big myself up. 198 00:08:43,022 --> 00:08:46,444 I got quite a lot of bull's-eyes with... with real things 199 00:08:46,544 --> 00:08:48,606 in Atlanta. 200 00:08:48,706 --> 00:08:50,367 We went to a shooting alley. Well... 201 00:08:50,467 --> 00:08:52,488 He's the only one who remembers this, so... 202 00:08:52,588 --> 00:08:54,650 Bit more coordinated than... than you were... 203 00:08:54,750 --> 00:08:56,447 Just take his word for it. Hitting me on the head. 204 00:08:56,471 --> 00:08:57,772 Just... 205 00:08:57,872 --> 00:09:02,015 Why is there a rock here that says "Andy's rock"? 206 00:09:02,115 --> 00:09:07,378 That's because I had a limp for a while 207 00:09:07,478 --> 00:09:09,980 and I liked that rock in my boot. 208 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,302 And I get a little bit OCD about things. 209 00:09:13,402 --> 00:09:14,623 No! 210 00:09:14,723 --> 00:09:17,185 And this was the one that I had to have. 211 00:09:17,285 --> 00:09:18,586 So... You? 212 00:09:18,686 --> 00:09:20,907 Yeah, and so I would put that in my boot 213 00:09:21,007 --> 00:09:23,469 because we didn't want to fake it. 214 00:09:23,569 --> 00:09:27,352 I mean, it's absurd, but, yeah, that's what we did. 215 00:09:27,452 --> 00:09:28,852 So that's why I was hobbling around 216 00:09:28,893 --> 00:09:30,874 with that rock in my boot. Wow. 217 00:09:30,974 --> 00:09:33,796 And we got it from outside the prison, actually. 218 00:09:33,896 --> 00:09:35,757 Wow. Yeah. 219 00:09:35,857 --> 00:09:40,881 I have to say, I am very moved by good prop making and design. 220 00:09:40,981 --> 00:09:42,478 It really helps, doesn't it? Yeah. It does. 221 00:09:42,502 --> 00:09:44,243 And we were so fortunate in the show 222 00:09:44,343 --> 00:09:48,005 to have such an incredible design team in all areas. 223 00:09:48,105 --> 00:09:50,807 And also, of course, Greg and KNB. 224 00:09:50,907 --> 00:09:52,604 And it's just... I mean, we were so fortunate. 225 00:09:52,628 --> 00:09:55,610 We would walk into environments. They weren't, sort of, sets. 226 00:09:55,710 --> 00:09:58,492 No. It was an environment. 227 00:09:58,592 --> 00:10:01,134 So, Danai, apart from you stealing your katana... 228 00:10:01,234 --> 00:10:03,576 Does that make sense? Me stealing my katana. 229 00:10:03,676 --> 00:10:05,853 Just break down that sentence for a second, everybody. Just... 230 00:10:05,877 --> 00:10:09,660 Apart from stealing your katana... Does that make sense? 231 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:10,901 Was that the one that 232 00:10:11,001 --> 00:10:12,782 wasn't in the Smithsonian 233 00:10:12,882 --> 00:10:15,664 but it found its way into your apartment in New York. 234 00:10:15,764 --> 00:10:16,964 Don't tell people where it is! 235 00:10:17,005 --> 00:10:18,105 [Laughs] 236 00:10:18,205 --> 00:10:20,107 Apart from the katana... It's, um... 237 00:10:20,207 --> 00:10:23,709 Apart from the katana that you decided to pilfer... I took it to 238 00:10:23,809 --> 00:10:25,270 are there any other props 239 00:10:25,370 --> 00:10:27,832 that you would have liked to have held on to? 240 00:10:27,932 --> 00:10:29,993 Listen... [Laughs] 241 00:10:30,093 --> 00:10:32,195 Don't be mad 'cause you don't have a katana. 242 00:10:32,295 --> 00:10:34,917 Yeah, I am jealous. I know. 243 00:10:35,017 --> 00:10:38,639 It's like Norman used to end each season on a motorbike. 244 00:10:38,739 --> 00:10:40,196 Norman took... he took every crossbow. 245 00:10:40,220 --> 00:10:41,917 He took one home at the end of every season. 246 00:10:41,941 --> 00:10:44,763 Every season. In full costume. 247 00:10:44,863 --> 00:10:46,644 Yeah. With a crossbow. Driving home. 248 00:10:46,744 --> 00:10:49,006 Just going, "Thank you for another good season." 249 00:10:49,106 --> 00:10:52,008 Yeah. On a bike that was probably designed by him. 250 00:10:52,108 --> 00:10:54,089 I had to wait nine years to get my katana. 251 00:10:54,189 --> 00:10:56,611 [Laughs] Um, so, yeah. 252 00:10:56,711 --> 00:11:00,133 Is there another prop or thing I would like to have kept? 253 00:11:00,233 --> 00:11:01,894 Maybe the Governor's eyeball. 254 00:11:01,994 --> 00:11:03,456 Ohh! That's cool. 255 00:11:03,556 --> 00:11:04,896 [Grunting] 256 00:11:04,996 --> 00:11:06,998 [Screaming] 257 00:11:11,641 --> 00:11:13,022 I don't know if we really got it. 258 00:11:13,122 --> 00:11:14,602 She just put it in, but I don't think 259 00:11:14,643 --> 00:11:16,104 she yanked it out, you know? 260 00:11:16,204 --> 00:11:19,626 But I think we should have a thing of the eyeball 261 00:11:19,726 --> 00:11:21,307 with that piece of glass stuck in it. 262 00:11:21,407 --> 00:11:23,109 That would be amazing. Yeah, I want that. 263 00:11:23,209 --> 00:11:25,066 Speaking of that, I'll never forget Dave Morrissey, 264 00:11:25,090 --> 00:11:26,511 who played the Governor... Yes. 265 00:11:26,611 --> 00:11:29,073 Attacking in such a badass way 266 00:11:29,173 --> 00:11:30,393 out on that field. 267 00:11:30,493 --> 00:11:32,115 Go ahead! 268 00:11:32,215 --> 00:11:34,836 Screaming, all the rest of it, and shooting at us 269 00:11:34,936 --> 00:11:37,378 when the war was kicking off. 270 00:11:39,579 --> 00:11:42,081 And then he got into his car 271 00:11:42,181 --> 00:11:43,882 and he had, obviously, the patch on 272 00:11:43,982 --> 00:11:46,364 and he started driving, and he just lifted his patch up... 273 00:11:46,464 --> 00:11:47,485 [Both laugh] 274 00:11:47,585 --> 00:11:49,086 'cause he couldn't 275 00:11:49,186 --> 00:11:51,688 'cause he couldn't drive with one eye. 276 00:11:51,788 --> 00:11:52,788 He was terrified. 277 00:11:52,868 --> 00:11:55,050 I just remember going, "Um... 278 00:11:55,150 --> 00:11:56,571 That's not that bada..." 279 00:11:56,671 --> 00:11:58,488 They can cut around it. They can cut around it. 280 00:11:58,512 --> 00:12:00,493 All right, okay. Why you calling him out? 281 00:12:00,593 --> 00:12:02,094 We love you, David. You're amazing. 282 00:12:02,194 --> 00:12:03,932 Love you, David. Incredible, incredible actor. 283 00:12:03,956 --> 00:12:06,397 Amazing. What is that? 284 00:12:09,199 --> 00:12:10,700 Judith and Carl. 285 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:11,981 Mm. 286 00:12:12,081 --> 00:12:15,023 But where was that? What is that? 287 00:12:15,123 --> 00:12:17,185 Is it the w... 288 00:12:17,285 --> 00:12:20,867 The porch. Oh, the porch of the house. 289 00:12:20,967 --> 00:12:22,788 Did you just cut it out of the porch 290 00:12:22,888 --> 00:12:24,890 and leave a hole in the porch? 291 00:12:28,772 --> 00:12:30,193 Are you sure about that? 292 00:12:30,293 --> 00:12:33,355 Sure you didn't just leave a hole in the... 293 00:12:33,455 --> 00:12:35,397 I'm gonna check later on when we go. 294 00:12:35,497 --> 00:12:41,497 ♪ 295 00:12:44,262 --> 00:12:50,262 ♪ 296 00:12:52,628 --> 00:12:55,150 Look at that. There we go. 297 00:12:57,711 --> 00:13:00,854 Had my arse out, as they say in Scotland 298 00:13:00,954 --> 00:13:04,656 for the whole of the first episode right there. 299 00:13:04,756 --> 00:13:06,818 Gurira: Okay, moving on. 300 00:13:06,918 --> 00:13:08,178 Right. Right. 301 00:13:08,278 --> 00:13:10,860 Now we're talking. 302 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,942 This was my first outfit that the fantastic Eulyn Hufkie, 303 00:13:14,042 --> 00:13:16,104 who was our costume designer for many years, 304 00:13:16,204 --> 00:13:17,425 and did a fantastic job. 305 00:13:17,525 --> 00:13:18,906 Amazing job. Yeah. 306 00:13:19,006 --> 00:13:20,503 I think she really enjoyed kind of stepping away 307 00:13:20,527 --> 00:13:22,144 from certain things that the show had had, 308 00:13:22,168 --> 00:13:23,829 like duller colours. 309 00:13:23,929 --> 00:13:26,150 So Michonne kind of got more color... 310 00:13:26,250 --> 00:13:28,468 That felt like a dig. I don't know about you... in her palette. 311 00:13:28,492 --> 00:13:29,913 Duller color? [Laughs] 312 00:13:30,013 --> 00:13:31,794 You brightened up the show. 313 00:13:31,894 --> 00:13:33,111 No, I didn't say that. [Laughs] 314 00:13:33,135 --> 00:13:35,877 I said Eulyn decided to give me colour. 315 00:13:35,977 --> 00:13:37,678 And then we covered you in blood. 316 00:13:37,778 --> 00:13:39,399 [Growling] [Grunting] 317 00:13:39,499 --> 00:13:41,601 ♪ 318 00:13:41,701 --> 00:13:43,042 [Groaning] 319 00:13:43,142 --> 00:13:46,124 Oh, God. The boots. 320 00:13:46,224 --> 00:13:48,805 I can't... I can't even believe all the stuff I did this. 321 00:13:48,905 --> 00:13:52,048 But there came a time I had to graduate these 322 00:13:52,148 --> 00:13:53,328 and put on some shoes 323 00:13:53,428 --> 00:13:56,010 with a bit more... more heel support. 324 00:13:56,110 --> 00:13:57,731 But, like, listen, sturdy as hell. 325 00:13:57,831 --> 00:13:59,933 Like, nothing's gonna get past them or around them. 326 00:14:00,033 --> 00:14:02,334 So you were being appropriate to the environment 327 00:14:02,434 --> 00:14:03,855 is what you're saying. 328 00:14:03,955 --> 00:14:05,853 We were... you know, we were down and out in the dirt, 329 00:14:05,877 --> 00:14:07,058 eating dogs. 330 00:14:07,158 --> 00:14:08,499 Yeah, that was a low point. 331 00:14:08,599 --> 00:14:09,819 It was low. I have to admit. 332 00:14:09,919 --> 00:14:12,061 And I think, at the end of it, 333 00:14:12,161 --> 00:14:13,982 we meet Aaron after we, 334 00:14:14,082 --> 00:14:16,024 and we're in the barn and you look at me, 335 00:14:16,124 --> 00:14:17,505 and I'm like... nod. 336 00:14:17,605 --> 00:14:18,905 And then you punch him. Yeah. 337 00:14:19,005 --> 00:14:22,668 ♪ 338 00:14:22,768 --> 00:14:24,349 Like, I wasn't saying, "Punch him." 339 00:14:24,449 --> 00:14:25,826 I thought... I thought that was the nod. 340 00:14:25,850 --> 00:14:27,551 I was saying, "I believe what he's saying." 341 00:14:27,651 --> 00:14:31,594 So we're clear, that look wasn't a "let's attack that man" look. 342 00:14:31,694 --> 00:14:34,116 It was a "he seems like an okay guy to me" look. 343 00:14:34,216 --> 00:14:36,157 She's like, "We've got to give this guy a shot," 344 00:14:36,257 --> 00:14:38,518 because her instincts are saying this could be a place, 345 00:14:38,618 --> 00:14:40,520 as she says to you in that episode, 346 00:14:40,620 --> 00:14:42,001 where Judith could grow up. 347 00:14:42,101 --> 00:14:43,981 We can't just toss him aside and say he's lying. 348 00:14:44,062 --> 00:14:45,203 Yeah. Yeah. 349 00:14:45,303 --> 00:14:47,084 We don't need to find out. 350 00:14:47,184 --> 00:14:49,566 We do. 351 00:14:49,666 --> 00:14:53,849 You know what you know, and you're sure of it. 352 00:14:53,949 --> 00:14:55,950 But I'm not. 353 00:14:57,271 --> 00:14:58,412 Maggie: Me neither. 354 00:14:58,512 --> 00:15:04,512 ♪ 355 00:15:06,997 --> 00:15:09,659 Your way's dangerous. Mine isn't. 356 00:15:09,759 --> 00:15:12,501 Passing up someplace where we can live? 357 00:15:12,601 --> 00:15:14,823 Where Judith can live? 358 00:15:14,923 --> 00:15:17,064 That's pretty dangerous. 359 00:15:17,164 --> 00:15:18,825 ♪ 360 00:15:18,925 --> 00:15:22,488 We need to find out what this is. 361 00:15:36,257 --> 00:15:41,921 ♪ 362 00:15:42,021 --> 00:15:44,522 I'd call dibs on that one. 363 00:15:44,622 --> 00:15:47,244 It's got more... curb appeal. 364 00:15:47,344 --> 00:15:49,205 ♪ 365 00:15:49,305 --> 00:15:51,807 Lincoln: Because this hasn't changed that much 366 00:15:51,907 --> 00:15:53,208 I feel this is like 367 00:15:53,308 --> 00:15:56,450 more shocking to my system, seeing this now. 368 00:15:56,550 --> 00:16:01,854 I mean, we've shot every single part of this place. 369 00:16:01,954 --> 00:16:03,411 So, what did you feel like when you came here? 370 00:16:03,435 --> 00:16:07,217 Were you just relieved to get a hot shower? 371 00:16:07,317 --> 00:16:09,059 Gurira: It was about the idea of moving 372 00:16:09,159 --> 00:16:12,341 into something structured and real that was safe and good 373 00:16:12,441 --> 00:16:15,423 and the belief that that had still exist, 374 00:16:15,523 --> 00:16:17,024 that Michonne was holding on to. 375 00:16:17,124 --> 00:16:19,101 And she was the one who said, "Let's go towards D.C." 376 00:16:19,125 --> 00:16:20,626 She was the one who said, 377 00:16:20,726 --> 00:16:22,303 "We've got to give Aaron a chance." Yeah, yeah. 378 00:16:22,327 --> 00:16:25,109 And she's the one who persuaded you to come here 379 00:16:25,209 --> 00:16:26,786 and you didn't know whether or not you were gonna 380 00:16:26,810 --> 00:16:28,792 be able to do it, and we have that conversation 381 00:16:28,892 --> 00:16:31,434 that was about what you would hear when we got there. 382 00:16:31,534 --> 00:16:34,155 And when we got to the doors, we hear children laughing. 383 00:16:34,255 --> 00:16:36,517 [Children shouting indistinctly in distance] 384 00:16:36,617 --> 00:16:42,617 ♪ 385 00:16:43,462 --> 00:16:45,403 I loved coming here because it was... it was 386 00:16:45,503 --> 00:16:47,564 it was about coming together 387 00:16:47,664 --> 00:16:51,247 in a place that was, yes, clean and beautiful 388 00:16:51,347 --> 00:16:54,889 and we could not shoot on the side of a ditch road. 389 00:16:54,989 --> 00:16:56,730 I hated it, actually. I really... 390 00:16:56,830 --> 00:16:58,327 I know, that's perfect for our characters. 391 00:16:58,351 --> 00:17:00,733 I hated it 'cause it was, like, clean. 392 00:17:00,833 --> 00:17:02,054 I didn't feel real. 393 00:17:02,154 --> 00:17:03,535 It just didn't feel like the show, 394 00:17:03,635 --> 00:17:04,896 and I was really uncomfortable. 395 00:17:04,996 --> 00:17:07,137 And also then I had to shave my beard off 396 00:17:07,237 --> 00:17:08,538 and I was furious about that. 397 00:17:08,638 --> 00:17:09,979 Which we all thought was great. 398 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:12,181 Yeah, it was... well, I'm glad you did. 399 00:17:12,281 --> 00:17:14,182 He had this wretchedly massive beard. 400 00:17:14,282 --> 00:17:16,504 It was like you could not see his face at all. 401 00:17:16,604 --> 00:17:18,345 But I thought I was really rocking it, 402 00:17:18,445 --> 00:17:20,266 and then my son, who likes to humiliate me, 403 00:17:20,366 --> 00:17:22,227 showed me a photo of the beard, and I was like, 404 00:17:22,327 --> 00:17:27,111 "Oh, man, that was like about four months too big. 405 00:17:27,211 --> 00:17:29,752 "Why didn't anybody tell me?" It was a lot. It was a lot. 406 00:17:29,852 --> 00:17:31,532 It was a bad look. And then it was like... 407 00:17:31,573 --> 00:17:32,914 It was a real shock, like, 408 00:17:33,014 --> 00:17:36,357 'cause all the men on set, in solidarity, 409 00:17:36,457 --> 00:17:39,479 shaved their beards when he shaved his. 410 00:17:39,579 --> 00:17:42,321 It was a really shocking day to come to work. 411 00:17:42,421 --> 00:17:46,283 And all the girls were like, "Did you see Andy?! Oh, my God!" 412 00:17:46,383 --> 00:17:49,165 So he was a little hottie on set for a few days. 413 00:17:49,265 --> 00:17:50,682 And then it was like, "Eh, it's just Andy." 414 00:17:50,706 --> 00:17:52,367 We did double takes. It was weird. 415 00:17:52,467 --> 00:17:54,529 Like, "Oh, my God. That was under there?" 416 00:17:54,629 --> 00:17:56,130 And then we had to wear that uniform, 417 00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:58,231 which made me feel a bit weird as well. 418 00:17:59,832 --> 00:18:02,854 What was your reaction to Deanna appointing us constables? 419 00:18:02,954 --> 00:18:04,535 Well, I mean, the good thing about it 420 00:18:04,635 --> 00:18:06,377 was that it allowed us to have authority. 421 00:18:06,477 --> 00:18:08,774 There was a nervousness about, are they gonna try to eat us 422 00:18:08,798 --> 00:18:10,900 like Terminus did or try to kill us? 423 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,501 Like, what is about to happen here? 424 00:18:12,601 --> 00:18:14,942 And so I think the cool thing was the idea 425 00:18:15,042 --> 00:18:16,303 that she was entrusting us. 426 00:18:16,403 --> 00:18:18,060 It was really her reaching out and saying, 427 00:18:18,084 --> 00:18:21,066 "I entrust you with the authority over this place." 428 00:18:21,166 --> 00:18:23,628 I'd like you to be our constable. 429 00:18:23,728 --> 00:18:26,670 ♪ 430 00:18:26,770 --> 00:18:28,772 That's what you were. 431 00:18:30,052 --> 00:18:31,553 That's what you are. 432 00:18:31,653 --> 00:18:37,557 ♪ 433 00:18:37,657 --> 00:18:38,657 And you too. 434 00:18:38,698 --> 00:18:40,559 ♪ 435 00:18:40,659 --> 00:18:43,481 I sort of took the law into my own hands a little bit. Exactly. 436 00:18:43,581 --> 00:18:46,283 He became the biggest outlaw in the whole doggone place. 437 00:18:46,383 --> 00:18:48,004 He was a dick. 438 00:18:48,104 --> 00:18:49,966 He was, but, I mean, I rewatched that 439 00:18:50,066 --> 00:18:51,727 and I was like, "Oh, my God." 440 00:18:51,827 --> 00:18:55,529 That was really some crazy vigilante stuff you went after, 441 00:18:55,629 --> 00:18:57,767 and it was really just because you had a crush on his wife. 442 00:18:57,791 --> 00:19:00,471 A little bit. Would you care if you didn't have a crush on his wife? 443 00:19:00,553 --> 00:19:03,214 Yes, I was... I was entrusted as being a constable. 444 00:19:03,314 --> 00:19:06,092 I was making... I was keeping the peace. That's not how a constable functions. Give me a break. 445 00:19:06,116 --> 00:19:09,335 I was keeping the peace by breaking a few... I kept the peace, and I knocked your ass out. 446 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,900 That was keeping the peace. 447 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,862 But it made for great drama. 448 00:19:14,962 --> 00:19:17,624 If you don't fight, you die. 449 00:19:17,724 --> 00:19:19,625 I'm not gonna stand by... 450 00:19:19,725 --> 00:19:21,106 [Grunts] 451 00:19:21,206 --> 00:19:24,028 Was it a conscious decision to actually hit me? 452 00:19:24,128 --> 00:19:29,152 Uh, it was a conscious decision to make it work 453 00:19:29,252 --> 00:19:32,914 and trust that you could take it, whatever it took. 454 00:19:33,014 --> 00:19:34,675 Wow. 455 00:19:34,775 --> 00:19:37,637 But no, I did not consciously want to actually make contact. 456 00:19:37,737 --> 00:19:38,977 Okay. It just... Andy, come on. 457 00:19:39,058 --> 00:19:41,000 I probably deserved it. I had it coming. 458 00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:42,721 Probably. But it was just a little clip. 459 00:19:42,821 --> 00:19:44,402 It was a tap. Yeah. 460 00:19:44,502 --> 00:19:46,003 And I think it helped you... 461 00:19:46,103 --> 00:19:48,044 Hit the deck... Enact your action. 462 00:19:48,144 --> 00:19:49,761 Yeah, true. Yeah. Which you did pretty well. 463 00:19:49,785 --> 00:19:50,966 Thank you. 464 00:19:51,066 --> 00:19:53,168 Yeah, you looked pretty messed up. 465 00:19:53,268 --> 00:19:54,929 I loved how it came out, quite honestly. 466 00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:56,250 I thought it looked great. 467 00:19:56,350 --> 00:19:59,132 Ha ha ha ha! 468 00:19:59,232 --> 00:20:02,214 The punch did lead to a very tender moment 469 00:20:02,314 --> 00:20:03,855 between Rick and Michonne, 470 00:20:03,955 --> 00:20:06,777 which I think was definitely a hint at what was to come, 471 00:20:06,877 --> 00:20:11,580 which was the scene where he's sort of admitting 472 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,741 that he lied to her... 473 00:20:13,841 --> 00:20:16,303 Yeah... And was scared to tell the truth, 474 00:20:16,403 --> 00:20:18,184 'cause she could talk him out of things, 475 00:20:18,284 --> 00:20:20,666 and hands her his gun. Yeah. 476 00:20:20,766 --> 00:20:25,189 And her response is to trust him 477 00:20:25,289 --> 00:20:27,631 and to make him keep his gun... 478 00:20:27,731 --> 00:20:31,193 Yeah... and to trust him to make the right move 479 00:20:31,293 --> 00:20:33,234 and to let him know that she's still with him 480 00:20:33,334 --> 00:20:35,116 even if things don't work out here. 481 00:20:35,216 --> 00:20:37,998 I think that was a very telling moment 482 00:20:38,098 --> 00:20:39,559 between them as future partners. 483 00:20:39,659 --> 00:20:40,659 Yeah. 484 00:20:40,699 --> 00:20:46,699 ♪ 485 00:20:48,344 --> 00:20:54,344 ♪ 486 00:20:55,949 --> 00:20:58,491 This is exactly where it happened. 487 00:20:58,591 --> 00:20:59,972 Mm-hmm. 488 00:21:00,072 --> 00:21:01,973 When did Scott actually... Scott Gimple 489 00:21:02,073 --> 00:21:03,494 when did he tell you? 490 00:21:03,594 --> 00:21:05,091 He told me at the beginning of the season. Ah. 491 00:21:05,115 --> 00:21:07,537 He told me in a way that was very like 492 00:21:07,637 --> 00:21:11,700 he was almost too afraid to mention it in full sentences. 493 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,501 But he basically told me. 494 00:21:13,601 --> 00:21:15,182 You know, we had had conversations 495 00:21:15,282 --> 00:21:18,384 about why I was grouped with you so much. 496 00:21:18,484 --> 00:21:20,746 And one of the writers said to me one time, they're like, 497 00:21:20,846 --> 00:21:22,343 "Well, we just keep writing to Rick and Michonne 498 00:21:22,367 --> 00:21:23,824 because those scenes just work so well. 499 00:21:23,848 --> 00:21:25,269 We just keep writing them." 500 00:21:25,369 --> 00:21:26,986 And so he'd been talking about things like that to me, 501 00:21:27,010 --> 00:21:29,170 and then he just said, "That thing that keeps happening 502 00:21:29,252 --> 00:21:30,633 over this year, it'll..." 503 00:21:30,733 --> 00:21:32,073 And he couldn't bring his 504 00:21:32,173 --> 00:21:33,791 he couldn't bring the words out of his mouth. 505 00:21:33,815 --> 00:21:35,232 Like he was scared. That's so Gimple. 506 00:21:35,256 --> 00:21:36,833 Like the walls were listening, you know? 507 00:21:36,857 --> 00:21:38,914 And I was like, "You mean Rick and Michonne get together?" 508 00:21:38,938 --> 00:21:42,721 He's like, "Well, we don't want to say out loud! But yeah." 509 00:21:42,821 --> 00:21:46,443 So he... he had always... but it really did freak me out 510 00:21:46,543 --> 00:21:47,564 to see it on the page. 511 00:21:47,664 --> 00:21:49,165 Oh, God, yeah. I was freaked out. 512 00:21:49,265 --> 00:21:50,966 I was like, "Holy shit." 513 00:21:51,066 --> 00:21:54,248 But then it made absolute sense as soon as we did the scene. 514 00:21:54,348 --> 00:21:55,548 Yeah, I will give Rick this... 515 00:21:55,629 --> 00:21:57,130 It looked like he was making the move 516 00:21:57,230 --> 00:22:02,654 and she was responding in shock to the realisation 517 00:22:02,754 --> 00:22:05,496 that this is exactly what she's wanted, 518 00:22:05,596 --> 00:22:10,579 but not dared to truly bring to full consciousness. 519 00:22:10,679 --> 00:22:12,420 And now it was just dead clear. 520 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,342 Well, and I think it was also, for the group dynamic, 521 00:22:15,442 --> 00:22:17,704 it was already established that there was a sort of 522 00:22:17,804 --> 00:22:20,986 father and mother of the rest of the group. 523 00:22:21,086 --> 00:22:23,308 Certainly the biggest baby in the group, Daryl Dixon, 524 00:22:23,408 --> 00:22:26,670 you know, felt that much earlier on. 525 00:22:26,770 --> 00:22:28,930 [Laughs] He had very mixed feelings about our coupling. 526 00:22:29,011 --> 00:22:30,571 He was so... oh, my God, he still does. 527 00:22:30,612 --> 00:22:32,309 He was like, "I'm mad. Don't touch me. I'm mad." 528 00:22:32,333 --> 00:22:34,315 Yeah. I was like, "What are you mad about?" 529 00:22:34,415 --> 00:22:36,232 He's like, "Michonne's supposed to be with Daryl." Yeah. 530 00:22:36,256 --> 00:22:37,473 But then at the same time, he was like, 531 00:22:37,497 --> 00:22:38,998 "Rick's supposed to be with Daryl." 532 00:22:39,098 --> 00:22:41,760 Yeah. So he was just in a bit of a conundrum. 533 00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:43,561 Yeah, he just didn't know where to turn. 534 00:22:43,661 --> 00:22:45,202 He was very confused. [Laughs] 535 00:22:45,302 --> 00:22:49,365 It was a very difficult season for Normski, bless him. 536 00:22:49,465 --> 00:22:51,466 Bless him. 537 00:22:56,069 --> 00:22:58,211 ♪ 538 00:22:58,311 --> 00:22:59,372 Son... 539 00:22:59,472 --> 00:23:00,572 What? 540 00:23:00,672 --> 00:23:02,333 [Whistling] 541 00:23:02,433 --> 00:23:08,433 ♪ 542 00:23:09,878 --> 00:23:11,139 [Whistling continues] 543 00:23:11,239 --> 00:23:15,142 ♪ 544 00:23:15,242 --> 00:23:17,103 Go! Go! 545 00:23:17,203 --> 00:23:19,545 [Whistling continues] 546 00:23:19,645 --> 00:23:25,549 ♪ 547 00:23:25,649 --> 00:23:30,752 ♪ 548 00:23:30,852 --> 00:23:35,476 Lincoln: So, Danai, this spot in particular, does it haunt you? 549 00:23:35,576 --> 00:23:38,357 Yeah, this was the Negan lineup place 550 00:23:38,457 --> 00:23:42,240 where it felt like we spent about 200 days 551 00:23:42,340 --> 00:23:43,721 shooting on our knees. 552 00:23:43,821 --> 00:23:45,362 It was... It was awful. 553 00:23:45,462 --> 00:23:47,804 And it was... like, the saddest part was to see, 554 00:23:47,904 --> 00:23:49,405 like, how defenceless we were. 555 00:23:49,505 --> 00:23:53,407 Like, we had no way out of that situation. 556 00:23:53,507 --> 00:23:54,648 Eeny... 557 00:23:54,748 --> 00:23:56,970 ♪ 558 00:23:57,070 --> 00:23:59,211 Meeny 559 00:23:59,311 --> 00:24:00,972 miny 560 00:24:01,072 --> 00:24:03,894 moe. 561 00:24:03,994 --> 00:24:08,057 And we lost two spectacularly brilliant actors. 562 00:24:08,157 --> 00:24:10,099 Yeah. Yeah. 563 00:24:10,199 --> 00:24:12,300 It was just here, wasn't it? I mean, it was... 564 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,280 And they had that horrible whistle, didn't they? 565 00:24:14,361 --> 00:24:15,262 With that... 566 00:24:15,362 --> 00:24:16,743 That [Whistles] 567 00:24:16,843 --> 00:24:18,184 Yeah. That. 568 00:24:18,284 --> 00:24:20,505 And he was such a saunterer, you know? 569 00:24:20,605 --> 00:24:22,827 Mr. JDM. [Laughs] 570 00:24:22,927 --> 00:24:25,549 We had to just spent hours and hours just watching him 571 00:24:25,649 --> 00:24:27,830 just masquerade, you know? Yeah. 572 00:24:27,930 --> 00:24:29,431 Well, bless him. 573 00:24:29,531 --> 00:24:30,988 I mean, he did have to come and... Oh, no, no, no. 574 00:24:31,012 --> 00:24:32,113 He was brilliant, I mean. 575 00:24:32,213 --> 00:24:33,674 And do 14 pages of dialogue. 576 00:24:33,774 --> 00:24:36,756 I know, taking that role, like, just dropping in 577 00:24:36,856 --> 00:24:40,078 and just blanching us, that's no small task. 578 00:24:40,178 --> 00:24:42,796 It took a titan like JDM to do what he did. Yeah, he was brilliant. 579 00:24:42,820 --> 00:24:45,162 It was, I mean, from an audience perspective, 580 00:24:45,262 --> 00:24:46,603 he was extremely entertaining 581 00:24:46,703 --> 00:24:49,805 but utterly horrifying, diabolical. 582 00:24:49,905 --> 00:24:53,447 I still think that that... the reconciliation was, 583 00:24:53,547 --> 00:24:56,609 you know, so difficult with with the Saviours, wasn't it? 584 00:24:56,709 --> 00:25:00,572 It was such a... an amazing sort of ambitious idea 585 00:25:00,672 --> 00:25:04,935 for the writers to try and rehabilitate him. 586 00:25:05,035 --> 00:25:06,096 Yeah. And they did it. 587 00:25:06,196 --> 00:25:07,737 They kind of did it. Yeah. 588 00:25:07,837 --> 00:25:11,820 I mean, I think by the time I leave the show, 589 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,621 he's still locked up in a cage. 590 00:25:13,721 --> 00:25:15,142 Yeah. Good. 591 00:25:15,242 --> 00:25:17,023 Oh, but also, you know, losing Steven, 592 00:25:17,123 --> 00:25:20,185 I fought so hard to try and save Stephen. Did you? 593 00:25:20,285 --> 00:25:21,826 Yeah, because, you know, 594 00:25:21,926 --> 00:25:23,623 he was such a great friend and he'd been there. 595 00:25:23,647 --> 00:25:25,269 He was a pillar of the show. 596 00:25:25,369 --> 00:25:26,709 Yeah. Big-time, big-time. 597 00:25:26,809 --> 00:25:28,271 But the death dinner was a tradition 598 00:25:28,371 --> 00:25:31,232 that kind of kicked in very early. 599 00:25:31,332 --> 00:25:33,474 I think it was Sarah Wayne Callies that just went, 600 00:25:33,574 --> 00:25:34,791 "Well, let's do a death dinner." 601 00:25:34,815 --> 00:25:36,236 Great. It was a great idea. 602 00:25:36,336 --> 00:25:39,278 And what it did is that it made sort of more sense 603 00:25:39,378 --> 00:25:41,880 for the person leaving, hopefully, but also helped 604 00:25:41,980 --> 00:25:46,403 everybody recover from the change in the dynamic. 605 00:25:46,503 --> 00:25:48,684 Yeah. You know, which I thought was really inspired. 606 00:25:48,784 --> 00:25:51,086 And everyone could express love to the person. 607 00:25:51,186 --> 00:25:52,767 Yeah, it was great. It was just... 608 00:25:52,867 --> 00:25:56,529 Yeah, it was. It was like having your funeral and being alive. 609 00:25:56,629 --> 00:25:57,690 Yeah. 610 00:25:57,790 --> 00:26:00,132 With Steven's, I had this idea. 611 00:26:00,232 --> 00:26:02,072 I was like, Steven was such, like, a performer. 612 00:26:02,153 --> 00:26:06,296 He could dance, he could sing like none of us could. 613 00:26:06,396 --> 00:26:08,217 And he would just be always just singing 614 00:26:08,317 --> 00:26:10,379 like a lot of Justin Timberlake 615 00:26:10,479 --> 00:26:12,100 and like, you know, the boy-band stuff. 616 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,982 So we did "I Want It That Way" as a lip sync. 617 00:26:16,082 --> 00:26:18,220 We were all in white pants, and we were all being like the guy. 618 00:26:18,244 --> 00:26:19,661 Oh, I do you remember that? Yeah, yeah. 619 00:26:19,685 --> 00:26:23,027 And then Cudlitz as well. Lovely Michael Cudlitz. 620 00:26:23,127 --> 00:26:25,669 Yes, who then came and directed and directed some... Brilliant. 621 00:26:25,769 --> 00:26:29,031 Astounding moments I've been able to do with him as an actor. 622 00:26:29,131 --> 00:26:30,668 I know there's a moment in there you don't like 623 00:26:30,692 --> 00:26:32,113 and I won't talk about it, but... 624 00:26:32,213 --> 00:26:33,754 Yeah, let's talk about it. Why... 625 00:26:33,854 --> 00:26:38,757 'Cause why would you just bring it up and then just move on? 626 00:26:38,857 --> 00:26:41,960 It was just a moment where Ezekiel was about to 627 00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:45,202 possibly take his own life, and Michonne stops him, 628 00:26:45,302 --> 00:26:47,043 and in his gratitude... With your lips. 629 00:26:47,143 --> 00:26:48,703 No. No. You stopped him with your lips. 630 00:26:48,784 --> 00:26:50,845 In his gratitude, he then... we hug. 631 00:26:50,945 --> 00:26:55,809 And then, surprisingly to Michonne, he does kiss her. 632 00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:58,050 Oh, he kisses her. Yeah, of course he kisses her! 633 00:26:58,150 --> 00:26:59,527 She didn't kiss him. Was it reciprocated? 634 00:26:59,551 --> 00:27:01,052 How long was it? No, not really. 635 00:27:01,152 --> 00:27:07,152 ♪ 636 00:27:10,238 --> 00:27:12,220 It couldn't have been more than three... 637 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,461 Okay, that's reciprocated. Two, three seconds. 638 00:27:14,561 --> 00:27:16,258 Anything past a second... That is not reciprocated. 639 00:27:16,282 --> 00:27:18,464 How? How is that reciprocation? ...Is reciprocated. 640 00:27:18,564 --> 00:27:20,341 She pulls back like this. If someone kisses, you move away. 641 00:27:20,365 --> 00:27:21,982 But you're never gonna watch it, so this isn't a problem. 642 00:27:22,006 --> 00:27:23,463 That's not even a second. It's like half a second. 643 00:27:23,487 --> 00:27:25,148 It's weird. It's weird. Oh, my God. 644 00:27:25,248 --> 00:27:28,230 And then she proceeds to only talk about Rick, like, so... 645 00:27:28,330 --> 00:27:30,031 That's even weirder. 646 00:27:30,131 --> 00:27:32,993 You might not know about this, but in my final episode, I 647 00:27:33,093 --> 00:27:34,955 it was like a "Sliding Doors" thing. 648 00:27:35,055 --> 00:27:36,236 You kiss someone else? 649 00:27:36,336 --> 00:27:37,717 I didn't kiss anybody. Okay, good. 650 00:27:37,817 --> 00:27:39,714 Well, I mean, if we're gonna do it, let's do it now. 651 00:27:39,738 --> 00:27:41,399 No, no. While we're recapping. 652 00:27:41,499 --> 00:27:42,920 Nobody... [Exhales sharply] 653 00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:45,562 It was just a moment where... you're so silly. 654 00:27:45,662 --> 00:27:47,302 You kind of go through a journey with her 655 00:27:47,383 --> 00:27:50,605 of how it could have gone if she hadn't made the choice, 656 00:27:50,705 --> 00:27:52,166 through her humanity, to save her. 657 00:27:52,266 --> 00:27:55,208 And so you see this really gruesome sequence 658 00:27:55,308 --> 00:27:57,690 where she just leaves Andrea to get killed. Wow. 659 00:27:57,790 --> 00:27:59,531 So that's like her other reality 660 00:27:59,631 --> 00:28:01,693 and she becomes a Saviour. 661 00:28:01,793 --> 00:28:02,853 What? 662 00:28:02,953 --> 00:28:04,534 So this is all a "Sliding Door" 663 00:28:04,634 --> 00:28:06,252 sort of thing that's going on in her mind. 664 00:28:06,276 --> 00:28:07,853 She's hallucinating because she's been made high 665 00:28:07,877 --> 00:28:09,978 by some tea that causes hallucinations. 666 00:28:10,078 --> 00:28:12,980 Long story. It's how she finds your boots, though. Long story. 667 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,703 So then she's walking down the line, and it's really freaky. 668 00:28:16,803 --> 00:28:19,865 I have an incident with you guys where I'm the person saying, 669 00:28:19,965 --> 00:28:24,187 "Help me," and then you guys drive past me in the car 670 00:28:24,287 --> 00:28:26,309 when I have the orange backpack from episode 12... 671 00:28:26,409 --> 00:28:27,929 Oh, wow, wild... But I'm that person. 672 00:28:27,970 --> 00:28:29,627 How wild. So then I have beef with you guys. 673 00:28:29,651 --> 00:28:31,272 Something else happens and I... oh, yeah, 674 00:28:31,372 --> 00:28:33,510 you go and shoot all the people in the thing that we do. 675 00:28:33,534 --> 00:28:35,551 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I have personal beef with you guys 676 00:28:35,575 --> 00:28:36,836 'cause I'm in one of the beds 677 00:28:36,936 --> 00:28:38,473 and I shoot a couple people and get away. 678 00:28:38,497 --> 00:28:39,558 This is... who wrote this? 679 00:28:39,658 --> 00:28:41,519 It's crazy. This is a great episode. 680 00:28:41,619 --> 00:28:43,276 He comes down the line... I kind of wish I watched the show now. 681 00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:44,517 I kind of wish you did too sometimes. 682 00:28:44,541 --> 00:28:45,958 It sounds like a really good episode. 683 00:28:45,982 --> 00:28:47,319 He comes down the line, he sees everybody. 684 00:28:47,343 --> 00:28:48,920 Then he says, "Now I'm gonna let my girl 685 00:28:48,944 --> 00:28:51,326 who's been doing such great work make her decision." 686 00:28:51,426 --> 00:28:53,287 Oh, and you kill the person in the lineup? 687 00:28:53,387 --> 00:28:55,528 Yeah, but it ends up being I kill myself. 688 00:28:55,628 --> 00:28:57,730 What happens next... 689 00:28:57,830 --> 00:29:00,892 ♪ 690 00:29:00,992 --> 00:29:02,813 It's your fault. 691 00:29:02,913 --> 00:29:04,975 ♪ 692 00:29:05,075 --> 00:29:09,418 Welcome to the new world. 693 00:29:09,518 --> 00:29:11,519 Hagh! [Thuds] 694 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,742 ♪ 695 00:29:15,842 --> 00:29:18,424 I wonder how many scenes we've done on this porch. 696 00:29:18,524 --> 00:29:21,666 You know what I mean? It's so bizarre. Mm-hmm. 697 00:29:21,766 --> 00:29:25,268 This isn't the right porch, but it's just brought to mind, 698 00:29:25,368 --> 00:29:28,991 you know, Scott Wilson and his porch scene, 699 00:29:29,091 --> 00:29:33,434 which is after Carl's been shot and we go to the farm. 700 00:29:33,534 --> 00:29:36,556 And I just want to shout out Scott Wilson just because... 701 00:29:36,656 --> 00:29:38,317 Yes, the great Scott Wilson. 702 00:29:38,417 --> 00:29:40,638 Just because it was such a privilege. 703 00:29:40,738 --> 00:29:42,760 He was just one of those extraordinary mentors, 704 00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:44,601 wasn't he, that we all loved. 705 00:29:44,701 --> 00:29:47,443 Your exit from the show... 706 00:29:47,543 --> 00:29:49,004 Yeah. 707 00:29:49,104 --> 00:29:52,606 I thought they did such a beautiful job. 708 00:29:52,706 --> 00:29:56,609 Particularly, I loved our scene on the bridge. 709 00:29:56,709 --> 00:29:58,930 You're my family. 710 00:29:59,030 --> 00:30:02,573 ♪ 711 00:30:02,673 --> 00:30:04,014 I found you. 712 00:30:04,114 --> 00:30:06,936 You did. 713 00:30:07,036 --> 00:30:09,738 Lincoln: We were able to say so much in that episode 714 00:30:09,838 --> 00:30:12,780 because of bringing extraordinary actors back, 715 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,102 like Jon Bernthal and... and Scott. 716 00:30:16,202 --> 00:30:19,464 And I think that that was the brilliance of the writing 717 00:30:19,564 --> 00:30:22,706 was really, really proper genre writing 718 00:30:22,806 --> 00:30:26,069 that you could sort of break apart the form 719 00:30:26,169 --> 00:30:28,910 and try different things and fail sometimes, 720 00:30:29,010 --> 00:30:30,592 but sometimes it works. 721 00:30:30,692 --> 00:30:33,473 I thought they did a magnificent job with that exit. 722 00:30:33,573 --> 00:30:35,575 I found them. 723 00:30:47,823 --> 00:30:53,823 ♪ 724 00:30:56,229 --> 00:31:02,229 ♪ 725 00:31:04,634 --> 00:31:08,417 ♪ 726 00:31:08,517 --> 00:31:09,858 [Helicopter blades whirring] 727 00:31:09,958 --> 00:31:15,581 ♪ 728 00:31:15,681 --> 00:31:20,825 ♪ 729 00:31:20,925 --> 00:31:23,106 I have a B. 730 00:31:23,206 --> 00:31:25,828 Not an A. I never had an A. 731 00:31:25,928 --> 00:31:28,430 He's hurt, but he's strong. Can you help him? 732 00:31:28,530 --> 00:31:31,592 I'm trying to save a friend. 733 00:31:31,692 --> 00:31:33,794 A friend who saved me. 734 00:31:33,894 --> 00:31:36,956 I have something for you now. 735 00:31:37,056 --> 00:31:38,757 We have a deal? 736 00:31:38,857 --> 00:31:44,857 ♪ 737 00:31:45,821 --> 00:31:48,683 You're still here. 738 00:31:48,783 --> 00:31:50,785 You're gonna be okay. 739 00:31:52,626 --> 00:31:55,048 They're gonna save you. 740 00:31:55,148 --> 00:31:59,891 It was hard leaving the show. It was really hard. 741 00:31:59,991 --> 00:32:01,772 I knew what I was doing. 742 00:32:01,872 --> 00:32:04,454 I knew what I was... the hole that I was leaving. 743 00:32:04,554 --> 00:32:07,336 And there was that draw of wanting to stay 744 00:32:07,436 --> 00:32:10,818 and be with my family here, but knowing that my real family 745 00:32:10,918 --> 00:32:12,980 was needing me back home, you know? 746 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,942 And it... And it was... and, you know, the truth was, 747 00:32:16,042 --> 00:32:19,104 I could have gone a year earlier, and I wasn't ready to. 748 00:32:19,204 --> 00:32:22,706 I remember we were at Comic-Con and I went, "I can't do it." 749 00:32:22,806 --> 00:32:26,268 And I said... I saw everybody, and I was just like, 750 00:32:26,368 --> 00:32:28,030 "I'm gonna have to stay a bit longer. 751 00:32:28,130 --> 00:32:30,912 I said to Scott, I said, "Scott, I don't think I can do it yet. 752 00:32:31,012 --> 00:32:32,473 I haven't made peace with it." 753 00:32:32,573 --> 00:32:34,714 You know, it was a big deal. 754 00:32:34,814 --> 00:32:36,835 This is gonna sound wrong, but... 755 00:32:36,935 --> 00:32:41,919 You preferred your experience after I'd left the show. No. 756 00:32:42,019 --> 00:32:45,361 No, I don't mean it like that. I don't, I swear. 757 00:32:45,461 --> 00:32:47,242 I don't. "But..." 758 00:32:47,342 --> 00:32:49,844 But there was an interesting... There was a "but" coming. 759 00:32:49,944 --> 00:32:51,921 There was a navigation she had to make. You can't... 760 00:32:51,945 --> 00:32:54,087 Okay, that's it. You have to go your... 761 00:32:54,187 --> 00:32:56,609 It was like we had to jump six years forward. 762 00:32:56,709 --> 00:32:58,810 And then she has a son now. 763 00:32:58,910 --> 00:33:01,972 She has a five-year-old that looks just like him. 764 00:33:02,072 --> 00:33:05,895 And then she has this very precocious 12-year-old daughter 765 00:33:05,995 --> 00:33:08,897 who walks around with her little katana on her back. 766 00:33:08,997 --> 00:33:11,418 It was just so riveting and amazing to work with her. 767 00:33:11,518 --> 00:33:13,580 Incredible. It was just new beginnings so quick. 768 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,141 It was super smart. 769 00:33:15,241 --> 00:33:16,978 This little katana on her back, which I just loved. 770 00:33:17,002 --> 00:33:18,162 Yeah. I already mentioned it. 771 00:33:18,243 --> 00:33:19,740 I loved that little thing on her back. 772 00:33:19,764 --> 00:33:21,404 Now she's kind of outgrown it, hasn't she? 773 00:33:21,485 --> 00:33:23,466 Did you steal that as well? 774 00:33:23,566 --> 00:33:27,989 Who exactly is supposed to have that katana except me? 775 00:33:28,089 --> 00:33:31,712 Who, Andy? Who? 776 00:33:31,812 --> 00:33:33,073 Was it difficult for you? 777 00:33:33,173 --> 00:33:34,794 Because you went the following year. 778 00:33:34,894 --> 00:33:36,595 Well, when you said you were leaving, 779 00:33:36,695 --> 00:33:40,037 I think I knew it was my time as well coming. 780 00:33:40,137 --> 00:33:42,519 And I didn't know exactly how or when, 781 00:33:42,619 --> 00:33:45,241 but I knew I had to start thinking like that. 782 00:33:45,341 --> 00:33:48,843 And when you left, you said, "Now go lead." 783 00:33:48,943 --> 00:33:50,404 And I was like, "What?" Oh, yeah. 784 00:33:50,504 --> 00:33:53,006 I was like, "That's scary." Yeah. 785 00:33:53,106 --> 00:33:54,567 And I was like, "How?" 786 00:33:54,667 --> 00:33:58,089 And you were like, "Just do what you... Do you. Be you." 787 00:33:58,189 --> 00:34:00,171 And I was like, "What the F does that mean?" 788 00:34:00,271 --> 00:34:02,933 And I was like... you walked away like fucking Yoda. 789 00:34:03,033 --> 00:34:05,775 And I'm just left like... "What?" 790 00:34:05,875 --> 00:34:08,817 I think I might have meant that for Norman, that... 791 00:34:08,917 --> 00:34:10,938 No, you didn't. [Laughs] 792 00:34:11,038 --> 00:34:12,099 No, I'm joking. 793 00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:13,860 Though, yeah, I mean, I was surprised 794 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,781 that you said it to me, but you did. 795 00:34:15,881 --> 00:34:18,463 You... You asked me the question, you know, earlier... 796 00:34:18,563 --> 00:34:20,785 What has it been like to return to him? 797 00:34:20,885 --> 00:34:23,907 And I said, well, it's... it's so easy and so effortless 798 00:34:24,007 --> 00:34:28,870 but also deeply important to do it as well. 799 00:34:28,970 --> 00:34:31,227 And I'm thankful for you because you were the one that said, 800 00:34:31,251 --> 00:34:32,672 "We have to. We should. 801 00:34:32,772 --> 00:34:34,109 You know, there's a story to be told 802 00:34:34,133 --> 00:34:35,554 and we need to finish this thing." 803 00:34:35,654 --> 00:34:37,756 And... And I thank you for that. 804 00:34:37,856 --> 00:34:41,879 And, you know, it's been such a special experience. 805 00:34:41,979 --> 00:34:46,322 You can't... no matter how many of these we do 806 00:34:46,422 --> 00:34:51,805 and how much information we give you on film or... or in books 807 00:34:51,905 --> 00:34:56,088 or whatever, or at Comic-Cons, you know, we lived it. 808 00:34:56,188 --> 00:34:58,850 It's like, I was thinking as I was driving here, going, 809 00:34:58,950 --> 00:35:01,852 I used to drive back listening to Johnny Cash 810 00:35:01,952 --> 00:35:03,813 when we'd done a day that was great, 811 00:35:03,913 --> 00:35:05,254 like when you knocked me out 812 00:35:05,354 --> 00:35:06,815 and we had one of those big days, 813 00:35:06,915 --> 00:35:09,017 and there was nothing better than seeing 814 00:35:09,117 --> 00:35:10,778 a sort of Georgia sunset, 815 00:35:10,878 --> 00:35:12,819 listening to a bit of Johnny Cash and going, 816 00:35:12,919 --> 00:35:15,101 "We had a good day at the office." 817 00:35:15,201 --> 00:35:16,942 And only we sort of shared that. 818 00:35:17,042 --> 00:35:20,264 And it was... and it's a very, very special, 819 00:35:20,364 --> 00:35:23,706 you know, thing that we'll always have. 820 00:35:23,806 --> 00:35:24,947 Yeah. 821 00:35:25,047 --> 00:35:31,047 ♪ 822 00:35:31,331 --> 00:35:34,434 Hey, Rick. 823 00:35:34,534 --> 00:35:35,554 Come here. 824 00:35:35,654 --> 00:35:37,676 Look at this. 825 00:35:37,776 --> 00:35:41,558 ♪ 826 00:35:41,658 --> 00:35:43,159 [Bird chirping] 827 00:35:43,259 --> 00:35:46,121 This place. 828 00:35:46,221 --> 00:35:48,003 [Sighs] 829 00:35:48,103 --> 00:35:50,104 It's beautiful. 830 00:35:51,585 --> 00:35:54,367 Man on P.A.: Consignee Grimes, you've been located 831 00:35:54,467 --> 00:35:56,088 and are instructed to surrender. 832 00:35:56,188 --> 00:36:00,011 Remain in place with your hands up. 833 00:36:00,111 --> 00:36:01,932 [Hooves clopping] 834 00:36:02,032 --> 00:36:04,574 ♪ 835 00:36:04,674 --> 00:36:06,055 [Helicopter blades whirring] 836 00:36:06,155 --> 00:36:08,536 [Rick grunts] 837 00:36:08,636 --> 00:36:10,297 Come on, Rick. 838 00:36:10,397 --> 00:36:12,699 It's like he told you. 839 00:36:12,799 --> 00:36:14,880 There's no escape from the living. 840 00:36:16,802 --> 00:36:19,864 Michonne: Remember what I said. 841 00:36:19,964 --> 00:36:23,426 It's what he said. Hold it to your heart. 842 00:36:23,526 --> 00:36:25,708 It's true. 843 00:36:25,808 --> 00:36:27,429 Forever. 844 00:36:27,529 --> 00:36:31,351 ♪ 845 00:36:31,451 --> 00:36:33,753 We are the ones who live. 846 00:36:33,853 --> 00:36:38,316 ♪ 847 00:36:38,416 --> 00:36:40,477 Rick: We're the ones who live. 848 00:36:40,577 --> 00:36:43,880 ♪ 849 00:36:43,980 --> 00:36:49,884 What was it like, Danai, to reprise the role of Michonne 850 00:36:49,984 --> 00:36:53,246 in the six-part miniseries for AMC? 851 00:36:53,346 --> 00:36:55,768 It was incredible. I mean, it was very intense. 852 00:36:55,868 --> 00:36:58,690 I mean, we started off, it was the three of us, 853 00:36:58,790 --> 00:37:00,491 you know, creating this thing, 854 00:37:00,591 --> 00:37:03,133 and we got a lot done in a short amount of time 855 00:37:03,233 --> 00:37:05,734 in terms of figuring out what this was supposed to be. 856 00:37:05,834 --> 00:37:07,095 It was an epic love story 857 00:37:07,195 --> 00:37:09,257 is kind of the heart of it, wasn't it? 858 00:37:09,357 --> 00:37:14,300 These two incredibly similar types of people 859 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,021 that love one another have disappeared 860 00:37:16,121 --> 00:37:18,062 from the mother ship, and we just wanted 861 00:37:18,162 --> 00:37:20,020 to sort of fill in the blanks, really, didn't we? 862 00:37:20,044 --> 00:37:21,661 Well, yeah, it was it was definitely a story 863 00:37:21,685 --> 00:37:23,226 that needed to be completed. 864 00:37:23,326 --> 00:37:26,348 And I do think that these characters are so beloved, 865 00:37:26,448 --> 00:37:28,149 you know, by us as well. 866 00:37:28,249 --> 00:37:30,911 You know, we were... so to be part of that creative process 867 00:37:31,011 --> 00:37:36,114 and to have a bit more input from the sort of the genesis 868 00:37:36,214 --> 00:37:38,396 was really exciting because, you know, 869 00:37:38,496 --> 00:37:41,278 and I think a lot of it was, "What would I want to see?" 870 00:37:41,378 --> 00:37:43,599 Mm-hmm. You know, you wrote an episode 871 00:37:43,699 --> 00:37:45,561 and starred in it and produced an episode 872 00:37:45,661 --> 00:37:47,322 as you were filming... Yeah. 873 00:37:47,422 --> 00:37:50,284 As well, and I was so impressed. 874 00:37:50,384 --> 00:37:52,926 I was so kind of shocked at your capacity 875 00:37:53,026 --> 00:37:55,888 to be able to wear all of these hats at the same time. 876 00:37:55,988 --> 00:37:58,609 I don't think I would be able to do that, 877 00:37:58,709 --> 00:37:59,930 you know what I mean? 878 00:38:00,030 --> 00:38:02,092 Were you able to kind of navigate that? 879 00:38:02,192 --> 00:38:03,933 Yeah, I mean, it was... it was intense. 880 00:38:04,033 --> 00:38:05,734 It was intense, but it was just like 881 00:38:05,834 --> 00:38:07,415 once I'd started to write it 882 00:38:07,515 --> 00:38:09,693 and I was getting more and more invested in getting it as rich 883 00:38:09,717 --> 00:38:11,854 as it needed to be for the characters and for the journey, 884 00:38:11,878 --> 00:38:13,459 there was just no letting go of it. 885 00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:15,559 It was like, it's your kid. Now it's just your kid. 886 00:38:15,601 --> 00:38:16,841 You just take care of your kid. 887 00:38:16,922 --> 00:38:18,459 But anyway, the long and short of it was 888 00:38:18,483 --> 00:38:21,785 it was extremely intense and extremely hard 889 00:38:21,885 --> 00:38:23,466 and also extremely rewarding. Yeah. 890 00:38:23,566 --> 00:38:27,909 Everybody was just incredible with enacting the vision I had. 891 00:38:28,009 --> 00:38:29,249 As were you. As were you, Andy. 892 00:38:29,290 --> 00:38:30,871 Bless you. No, but we were... 893 00:38:30,971 --> 00:38:33,593 Sometimes I was a little... bossy. No, no, but... 894 00:38:33,693 --> 00:38:35,474 You... no. "Bossy" is not the right word. 895 00:38:35,574 --> 00:38:36,835 Is it not the right word? No. 896 00:38:36,935 --> 00:38:38,596 Good! What was it? I think "specific." 897 00:38:38,696 --> 00:38:41,598 Okay! I love that word! Yay. 898 00:38:41,698 --> 00:38:44,280 But I think. 899 00:38:44,380 --> 00:38:49,523 The fact that we're trying to explore a new world, 900 00:38:49,623 --> 00:38:51,405 we're sort of world-building. 901 00:38:51,505 --> 00:38:53,686 We're not "sort of." We are world building. 902 00:38:53,786 --> 00:38:56,568 And what I've always loved in the show 903 00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:58,289 is when we meet people or strangers 904 00:38:58,389 --> 00:39:00,130 and you hear their story. 905 00:39:00,230 --> 00:39:02,212 So what I want to hear is the bigger story 906 00:39:02,312 --> 00:39:04,293 of what's been happening in the 907 00:39:04,393 --> 00:39:07,295 you know, in America, in the continent, 908 00:39:07,395 --> 00:39:09,697 while we've been scrabbling around in the dirt. 909 00:39:09,797 --> 00:39:14,260 But also, for me, it was always about the reason that we do this 910 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,862 is to get these two lovers together, to tell a love story. 911 00:39:17,962 --> 00:39:21,144 Because after all, when you're on your deathbed, 912 00:39:21,244 --> 00:39:22,625 what else is worth talking about? 913 00:39:22,725 --> 00:39:24,062 You know what I mean? Right, right. 914 00:39:24,086 --> 00:39:25,427 It's love, man. Right. 915 00:39:25,527 --> 00:39:27,669 And I think that the story began with a man 916 00:39:27,769 --> 00:39:30,350 looking for his family, 917 00:39:30,450 --> 00:39:36,274 and it finishes, potentially, with these two lovers, 918 00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:39,797 hopefully finding one another and completing the circle. 919 00:39:39,897 --> 00:39:42,879 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 920 00:39:42,979 --> 00:39:48,979 ♪ 921 00:39:49,703 --> 00:39:55,703 ♪ 922 00:39:58,749 --> 00:40:04,749 ♪ 923 00:40:08,476 --> 00:40:14,476 ♪ 924 00:40:18,282 --> 00:40:24,282 ♪ 70402

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