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It is the world's
most elite team of ufo hunters.
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It's this huge
network of investigators
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Who are not just
interested in ufos,
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But want to do
something about it.
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For five decades,
the mutual ufo network
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Has gathered detailed evidence
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Of unexplained aerial phenomena,
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Strange encounters, and
alleged alien abductions.
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Out of all the
cases that you've looked at,
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Have you seen
anything like this?
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Not like this, and I've
done over a thousand.
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And now, they're collaborating
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With the united
states government.
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Mufon has been
very well received in congress.
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Whether they believe it's
a uap from another world
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Or from one our adversaries,
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They want to know
what's happening.
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Could mufon
have within its vast files
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Definitive proof
of alien visitation?
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Here we have
an outfit that has decades worth
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Of investigation, and
some of their cases
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Are, in my opinion,
extraterrestrial encounters.
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There is a doorway
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In the universe.
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Beyond it is the
promise of truth.
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It demands we
question everything
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We have ever been taught.
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The evidence is all around us.
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The future is right
before our eyes.
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We are not alone.
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We have never been alone.
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Thousands
descend on the mile high city
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To attend the 53rd
international symposium on ufos.
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We had a similar case out
of south carolina last year.
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At this annual conference,
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Researchers from
around the world
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Gather to share and examine
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The latest developments
in the study of ufos.
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One resident claimed to have
compiled a list of 110 persons
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Who had witnessed flying objects
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Out of the small
town of only 2,000.
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And it is
hosted by an organization
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With the most highly trained
ufo investigators in the world,
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Mufon.
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Mufon is the acronym
for the mutual ufo network.
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It's the largest ufo
investigation organization
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In the world,
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And its mission statement
is the scientific study
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Of ufos for the
benefit of mankind.
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Mufon is a
all-volunteer organization
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That's grown to well over
4,000 members worldwide
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Of field investigators and
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People that want to participate
in the quest for the truth.
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At the core of mufon
is an investigative body
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That exists to go out
and investigate sightings
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That are worthy of investigation
and compile our database.
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But over the years, mufon
has grown into so much more.
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We offer kind of a community
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For people that
care about the topic.
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Mufon is the coming together
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Of people who are not
just interested in ufos,
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But want to do
something about it.
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They want to
investigate the cases.
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So, it's like this
huge, uh, network
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Of like-minded people
all around the united states
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And indeed the world
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Brought together by their
shared passion for the subject
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And their shared interest in it.
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I became involved
after having been present
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For the phoenix lights incident
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Here in phoenix,
arizona in 1997.
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My interest was captured.
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I first joined up with
mufon after a trip to roswell
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With the family in 2019,
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And it got me interested in it.
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I had heard of mufon
before, but I didn't think,
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Being a nurse, if
I would be useful.
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But I called the
headquarters to see about
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Just attending meetings, and
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I became an investigator,
and I've loved it ever since.
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I was 12
years old when I saw my first ufo.
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Uh, was outside, and
then I lived in dallas, texas.
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I saw this little white disk,
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Uh, kind of just zig-zagging.
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So, imagine that seared
into you as a young kid.
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As the years roll by,
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I noticed that there was an
organization called mufon,
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Mutual ufo network.
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Then I found their website.
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Wait a minute, you can
get behind the scenes.
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You can become an investigator.
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And so I said, "you know what?
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This is what I'm going to do."
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Having now
existed as an organization
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For more than five decades,
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Mufon's mission is to
objectively investigate
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The hundreds of
eyewitness accounts of ufos
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And other aerial phenomena
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That are reported every
year across the globe.
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Mufon started in the '60s
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As an association
of private citizens
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Who trained themselves to
ask questions, to go to scenes
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Where people had reported ufos
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To question people.
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They developed a whole protocol.
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They had a very
sophisticated methodology
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That they used to
document these things,
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And they kept records.
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Started in quincy, illinois,
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Mufon originally stood for
"the midwest ufo network"...
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But by 1973,
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The organization had so many
members across the country,
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Its name was changed to
"the mutual ufo network."
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The group remained
relatively obscure, however,
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Until 1980,
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When it played a key role
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In a sensational ufo case called
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The cash-landrum incident.
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Betty cash and vickie landrum
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Are driving through texas
when they encounter this giant
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Diamond-shaped object...
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Hovering and spewing out
blue flame from the bottom.
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They stopped the
car to investigate.
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The local environment
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Is actually being
heated by this object
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To the point where
they try to touch their car
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And it's hot to the touch.
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And then what
happens is they notice
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That there's an
army of helicopters,
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Chinook helicopters,
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Seeming to escort this object.
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This is vickie
landrum from dayton, texas.
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Now, what makes
this unique is that,
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When they get home,
after a couple of days,
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They start to show
symptoms of being exposed
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To ionized radiation.
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The women
all had their hair fall out,
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They develop cancer,
and they blamed
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The u.S. Government for this.
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And this then became a
very well-known court case,
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Where they were suing the
u.S. Government, essentially.
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This was reported
in major newspapers
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All over the united states.
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They couldn't ignore this story.
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Mufon investigators
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Got the witness statements,
gathered the evidence,
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Including things
like medical records,
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Which were central
to the legal case.
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And, although, the
witnesses didn't win their case,
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What's important was that
that gets it on the record.
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Without mufon,
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It's unlikely that it
would have gone to court.
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It helped mufon
come to the forefront.
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It gave us
credibility as a group.
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And it was a really
establishing moment for mufon.
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You can click on this, and
you can click on your state
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And see if your case
is coming up due soon.
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40 ufo researchers
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Have arrived in this
small desert community
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For the annual mufon
investigator boot camp.
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This intense,
three-day conference
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Offers hands on training
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In techniques used
to investigate cases
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Of reported
extraterrestrial visitations.
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Stay with your group.
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We have five sites.
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You guys are
gonna go to the sites,
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And you're going to find stuff,
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Tag it, bag it, and
you're gonna submit it.
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Mufon strives to train
up their field investigators
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To know photo
and video analysis.
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We're expected to know how
to read astronomical charts.
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We're expected to know how
to look at flight radar returns.
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And that's just the
tip of the iceberg.
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One of the strengths of mufon,
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Is that it brings
together people
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With different skill sets.
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So, for example, some of
them will be, uh, retired cops.
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Also, people who specialize
in imagery analysis.
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There are other people who
know all about computers.
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So, all the different things
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That an organization
investigating ufos might need,
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Someone's gonna
have that skill set.
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Mufon has many
members from the military,
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From the police force,
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Lawyers, phds, doctors.
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Those are highly,
highly educated people.
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So, it's serious work
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That these
investigators are doing.
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Mufon is not an organization
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Of wide-eyed believers.
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These are not people who think
everything's an alien spaceship.
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Mufon get thousands of cases,
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And they investigate,
they analyze,
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And they conclude.
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And mufon pride
themselves on trying to adhere
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To the scientific method.
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The ufo phenomenon
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Goes back, in my
opinion, thousands of years.
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The day when it becomes
accepted knowledge globally
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That we are not alone
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And never have
been alone on earth,
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I think that mufon will be
part of this paradigm shift.
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For mufon investigators,
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Determining the
source of an encounter
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Is key to identifying
what is truly unexplained.
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And often, the most
compelling cases
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Are those in which eyewitness
accounts can be corroborated
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By physical evidence.
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Former british ministry
of defence ufo investigator
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Nick pope and dr. Travis taylor,
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Who was the chief scientist
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For the u.S. Government's
uap task force,
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Have arranged to meet with
two seasoned mufon researchers,
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Who investigated a
possible ufo landing here
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In the summer of 2022.
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I'm really fascinated to see
how mufon do their investigations.
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What resources and
capabilities they can bring
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To bear on these investigations.
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I find it really intriguing
that at least they've taken on
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That role because,
in the united states,
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There is no government office
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That's set up to
take ufo reports.
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With the uap task force,
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We only looked at
military, uh, scenarios.
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We never looked into civilian
events in detail because
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We had no authority to
go and investigate inside
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- The walls of the united states, right?
- Right.
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I'm gonna be interested
to look at this case
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Through the lens of the way
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We did things at the
u.K. Ministry of defence.
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We took a very
methodological approach
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To these sorts of things.
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Before proceeding to
the site of the alleged landing...
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- Travis taylor.
- Travis and nick meet up with robert spearing
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And jason albertson,
the mufon investigators
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Who conducted the
original enquiry in July 2022.
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I'm mufon's, uh, international
director of investigations.
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Uh, I have a
forensic background.
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And this is jay albertson.
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He's a field investigator
from pennsylvania.
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I'm also retired military.
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I'm a chemical biological
radiological specialist.
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So, I guess one of the
biggest questions to me
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Is, uh, mufon's become so huge.
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How's it funded?
Or is it all volunteer?
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Are you guys getting
paid to do this?
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- No, everything's volunteer.
- No.
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That's what I thought.
That's amazing.
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Mufon is mostly funded
by its membership,
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And we have about 500
field investigators right now
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From all walks of life.
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Geologists, biologists,
rocket scientists, you name it.
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So, what's your process when
someone makes a report to mufon?
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What happens?
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When a witness submits a report,
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It goes to, uh, one
of five administrators,
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And the state director
will then assign it
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To a person in that area.
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Jay lived in the
general area where
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The incident occurred, and
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We immediately realized
that this was a case of interest.
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So, what happened?
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A woman, about
2:30 in the morning,
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heard her dogs barking.
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She saw a white
light coming down
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In the field behind her house.
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The crickets and the cicadas
had stopped making noise,
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Which is unusual in the
summertime in pennsylvania.
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The woman
was scared because the dogs
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Was going crazy,
running back and forth.
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And the next morning,
her husband went out
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And discovered what
we call a saucer circle
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About two yards in diameter.
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The pond is to your right,
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The impression
is straight ahead.
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There's three circles that
are burned in the center.
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You have a 14-inch circle,
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Perfect in the
center, and you have
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Two 12-inch circles
on the left and right.
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And they connect with
the outside impression
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That comes down.
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Circle here,
and here's the big circle.
284
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Yeah, there's
another one right here it looks like.
285
00:14:51,950 --> 00:14:54,110
- Yeah.
- Could that be landing gear?
286
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Did the ring look
dug into the ground
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Or pushed into the ground?
288
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The outer ring, that was
pushed down about a half an inch.
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They hadn't mowed
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Before you got there, or
had they mowed over this?
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No, they hadn't mowed at all.
292
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Okay, got it.
293
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All right.
294
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You know, if I were going
to sit here and play the role
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Of a debunker, right?
I'd look at things trying to
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00:15:16,232 --> 00:15:17,564
Figure this out
and say, "oh, well,
297
00:15:17,584 --> 00:15:20,067
"I've seen when I've bent
my lawn mower blade,
298
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It cuts perfect
circles like that."
299
00:15:22,405 --> 00:15:25,331
But you couldn't cut a
perfect circle around it
300
00:15:25,483 --> 00:15:26,523
- Where you did that.
- No.
301
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I don't know how in the world,
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00:15:28,002 --> 00:15:30,319
Even with a zero-turn
radius mower,
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- You couldn't do that.
- No.
304
00:15:32,081 --> 00:15:33,558
And then if
it's actually depressed,
305
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That means that there's
something that was heavy
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- Sitting there.
- Yes.
307
00:15:36,010 --> 00:15:37,490
Uh, so I find this
really interesting.
308
00:15:38,846 --> 00:15:41,847
So, when you
get to the location,
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Is the first thing you
do to go to these circles
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Because that's what's been
brought to your attention?
311
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And what do you find?
312
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The first thing I
did was, I went to the circle.
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I was taking photographs and
getting all my measurements
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First, and then,
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When I initially was down
on the ground taking samples,
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I felt a burning sensation
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On the insides of my
arms on certain parts
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That I-I just
couldn't understand.
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Pain, nausea, headaches,
320
00:16:12,714 --> 00:16:14,288
And me being in
the military, I knew
321
00:16:14,307 --> 00:16:15,881
Exactly what that could've been.
322
00:16:16,034 --> 00:16:18,384
And are you worried?
Are you scared? Are you...?
323
00:16:18,536 --> 00:16:22,129
At that point I was 'cause
then I knew exactly...
324
00:16:22,148 --> 00:16:23,964
- Could be radiation or...
- I knew it was a flash burn.
325
00:16:23,984 --> 00:16:25,708
It had to have
been a flash burn.
326
00:16:25,727 --> 00:16:28,377
So, do you seek
medical help for that?
327
00:16:28,396 --> 00:16:30,062
Yes. Yes. I went
directly to the hospital.
328
00:16:31,566 --> 00:16:35,885
Yeah, they were initially just
burns, and then they circled.
329
00:16:35,903 --> 00:16:38,888
They initially looked at it, and
they said, "is this a bug bite?"
330
00:16:38,906 --> 00:16:40,389
And I said, "no."
331
00:16:40,483 --> 00:16:42,816
Right, because,
you know, you've...
332
00:16:42,910 --> 00:16:45,152
- Everyone's been bitten by bugs before, right?
- Exactly.
333
00:16:45,171 --> 00:16:46,820
You know what that feels like.
334
00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,490
And-and you are saying
that was not what happened.
335
00:16:49,509 --> 00:16:51,109
- This is something else.
- Exactly. Yes.
336
00:16:51,236 --> 00:16:53,827
After I talked to the doctor,
337
00:16:53,847 --> 00:16:59,258
He determined that it was
unexplained skin eruption.
338
00:16:59,352 --> 00:17:01,185
What other data did
you collect with this?
339
00:17:01,337 --> 00:17:04,930
When we got the lab results
back from the mufon lab in missouri,
340
00:17:05,025 --> 00:17:07,583
The technician there
told us that there were
341
00:17:07,602 --> 00:17:10,753
Some heavy elements
within the soil itself.
342
00:17:10,846 --> 00:17:13,089
Yeah, if you look
on the back of the test here,
343
00:17:13,107 --> 00:17:16,200
It states that where
it was coal mining,
344
00:17:16,352 --> 00:17:17,777
Toxic metals were present.
345
00:17:17,929 --> 00:17:20,596
Mercury, lead, arsenic, uh,
346
00:17:20,689 --> 00:17:24,100
Cadmium, aluminum,
nickel, uranium.
347
00:17:24,193 --> 00:17:25,513
This was all found
in the samples.
348
00:17:25,603 --> 00:17:27,453
The technician
there told us that,
349
00:17:27,605 --> 00:17:29,380
When heavy elements interact
350
00:17:29,532 --> 00:17:31,698
With the residual
emf field left over
351
00:17:31,718 --> 00:17:36,370
By whatever left the emf field,
it can become toxic for them.
352
00:17:36,389 --> 00:17:39,115
And we believe that's
what started the blistering
353
00:17:39,133 --> 00:17:40,783
On-on jay's body.
354
00:17:40,802 --> 00:17:43,636
The other thing the
lab found was that
355
00:17:43,788 --> 00:17:46,547
Some of the, uh, vegetation
356
00:17:46,641 --> 00:17:50,217
Within the circle had been
burnt from the inside out.
357
00:17:50,311 --> 00:17:53,963
So, I believe, when you
add in that the plant matter
358
00:17:53,981 --> 00:17:56,741
Was burned from within, you
have more and more evidence
359
00:17:56,892 --> 00:18:00,469
Suggesting that there was
a strong residual emf field.
360
00:18:00,488 --> 00:18:02,822
So, out of all the
cases that you've looked at,
361
00:18:02,974 --> 00:18:04,064
Have you seen
anything like this?
362
00:18:04,084 --> 00:18:05,732
Not like this.
363
00:18:05,752 --> 00:18:07,143
I'd say this is one
of the top three cases
364
00:18:07,161 --> 00:18:09,420
I've done, and I've
done over a thousand.
365
00:18:09,647 --> 00:18:11,314
Well, I'll tell you
what I would like to do.
366
00:18:11,332 --> 00:18:14,166
Uh, you guys still have your
investigation kit with you?
367
00:18:14,260 --> 00:18:16,669
- Yes.
- I would like to go back up there,
368
00:18:16,821 --> 00:18:19,488
And you guys go back through
all the measurements you made,
369
00:18:19,507 --> 00:18:21,415
And we'll get to watch
and see how you did that.
370
00:18:21,434 --> 00:18:23,826
But, at the same time, we're
taking another measurement
371
00:18:23,845 --> 00:18:26,996
That happened a given
amount of time after the event.
372
00:18:27,014 --> 00:18:28,755
And if there are changes,
373
00:18:28,850 --> 00:18:30,828
That'll be very interesting
data that we'll need to know.
374
00:18:30,852 --> 00:18:33,611
- Okay. Let's go.
- Let's do it. Let's go. -Great.
375
00:18:40,011 --> 00:18:43,179
November 7, 2022.
376
00:18:43,272 --> 00:18:48,442
Dr. Travis taylor and nick pope
are in wapwallopen, pennsylvania
377
00:18:48,461 --> 00:18:53,205
To see how mufon investigates
ufo sightings firsthand.
378
00:18:53,299 --> 00:18:55,282
- Greetings.
- They arrive at the home
379
00:18:55,301 --> 00:18:57,693
Of robert and melissa skirchak.
380
00:18:57,712 --> 00:19:00,638
The skirchaks are
looking for answers
381
00:19:00,789 --> 00:19:03,790
As to what occurred on their
property several months earlier.
382
00:19:03,810 --> 00:19:06,035
So, where abouts
did this take place?
383
00:19:06,053 --> 00:19:07,733
Right behind
you in the grass area.
384
00:19:07,796 --> 00:19:08,849
Right behind
you in the grass area.
385
00:19:08,873 --> 00:19:10,064
Well, lead the way. Show us.
386
00:19:12,968 --> 00:19:14,355
- So, it was this close to the house?
- Yes.
387
00:19:14,379 --> 00:19:16,212
Wow.
388
00:19:16,230 --> 00:19:17,800
- Yeah, in this area right here.
- Over here.
389
00:19:17,824 --> 00:19:20,307
I say we-we go back
and get the equipment
390
00:19:20,401 --> 00:19:22,718
Out of the vehicle and
then we'll let the mufon guys
391
00:19:22,811 --> 00:19:24,478
Come do their thing again.
392
00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:26,906
Nick and travis are joined
393
00:19:27,058 --> 00:19:28,982
By mufon field investigators
394
00:19:29,076 --> 00:19:31,818
Jason albertson
and robert spearing.
395
00:19:31,913 --> 00:19:35,064
Jason and robert
will retest the area
396
00:19:35,082 --> 00:19:38,067
For radioactivity and
collect more soil samples
397
00:19:38,085 --> 00:19:40,327
On the skirchak property.
398
00:19:40,346 --> 00:19:43,239
The goal is to see if
any lingering effects
399
00:19:43,332 --> 00:19:45,090
From the initial
incident remain.
400
00:19:45,185 --> 00:19:48,077
Jay's gonna check
for residual radiation,
401
00:19:48,095 --> 00:19:50,688
Uh, an emf field,
residual emf field,
402
00:19:50,915 --> 00:19:52,726
And we're gonna see if
there's anything sub-ground,
403
00:19:52,750 --> 00:19:54,417
Metallic underneath.
404
00:19:54,435 --> 00:19:56,155
When we do that, if
it's safe to go back in,
405
00:19:56,254 --> 00:19:57,603
We're gonna do
some soil samples.
406
00:19:57,697 --> 00:19:59,175
- Sure. All right.
- So, let's-let's do it.
407
00:19:59,199 --> 00:20:00,865
Okay.
408
00:20:01,092 --> 00:20:02,683
Jason actually has
a pretty good background
409
00:20:02,702 --> 00:20:05,094
For this type of,
uh, investigation.
410
00:20:05,112 --> 00:20:07,763
He's from a military background
doing chemical weapons disposal.
411
00:20:07,856 --> 00:20:09,856
So, he's familiar
with radiation,
412
00:20:09,951 --> 00:20:11,358
Electromagnetic fields,
413
00:20:11,377 --> 00:20:13,619
And that type of
scientific measurement...
414
00:20:13,771 --> 00:20:15,379
Now, you remember where it was?
415
00:20:15,531 --> 00:20:17,008
And understanding
those phenomena.
416
00:20:17,032 --> 00:20:18,958
Just about here.
417
00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:21,702
Now, normal radiation
levels in this area
418
00:20:21,721 --> 00:20:24,296
Of pennsylvania, about
50 to 68 clicks per minute?
419
00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:25,798
Yeah, that sounds about right.
420
00:20:25,950 --> 00:20:28,392
It's pretty much 65 right now,
421
00:20:28,544 --> 00:20:31,562
So I don't see any sort
of dangerous radiation.
422
00:20:31,714 --> 00:20:34,214
Did you find anything
with the metal detector
423
00:20:34,308 --> 00:20:35,399
On your initial search?
424
00:20:35,626 --> 00:20:37,884
Initially, no. Nope.
425
00:20:37,979 --> 00:20:40,387
So, uh, jason,
426
00:20:40,406 --> 00:20:42,314
You said you took
samples outside of the spot?
427
00:20:42,467 --> 00:20:44,242
- Yes.
- So, you took, uh,
428
00:20:44,393 --> 00:20:46,652
- Soil samples from the pond, grass samples...
- Yes.
429
00:20:46,804 --> 00:20:48,654
- Water samples.
- Yes.
430
00:20:48,806 --> 00:20:51,916
Soil samples here and the, uh,
the soil samples near the pond
431
00:20:52,067 --> 00:20:54,067
Were not the same or they
were the same as they were here?
432
00:20:54,087 --> 00:20:55,380
- They were different.
- Okay.
433
00:20:55,404 --> 00:20:57,070
The interesting
thing, though, is
434
00:20:57,090 --> 00:21:01,317
That right here, just
ten, 20 feet away...
435
00:21:01,410 --> 00:21:02,985
- It's different.
- You have different
436
00:21:03,004 --> 00:21:04,762
Minerals in the soil
than you do there,
437
00:21:04,913 --> 00:21:07,339
And you would expect the
runoff, since that's downhill,
438
00:21:07,492 --> 00:21:08,841
It all ought to be the same,
439
00:21:08,935 --> 00:21:10,509
Which is odd.
440
00:21:11,754 --> 00:21:14,513
Jason and robert
are going to take fresh samples
441
00:21:14,665 --> 00:21:17,090
Of the soil to test it again.
442
00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:19,110
Jason, this is where
443
00:21:19,261 --> 00:21:21,670
- You kind of got sick yourself, right?
- Yes.
444
00:21:21,689 --> 00:21:23,689
As soon as I got
down to the ground,
445
00:21:23,841 --> 00:21:26,692
That's when I felt
different spots in my arms
446
00:21:26,844 --> 00:21:28,769
And the insides of my arms.
447
00:21:28,788 --> 00:21:31,289
Yeah, we'll get some
grass in here, too, from this.
448
00:21:31,516 --> 00:21:33,791
All right, and then we'll
get a control sample.
449
00:21:38,131 --> 00:21:39,775
Yeah, I'm gonna
hold on to this till it's labeled.
450
00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:41,590
Yeah. All right.
451
00:21:43,136 --> 00:21:46,470
So, we'll take the
control sample.
452
00:21:46,622 --> 00:21:49,214
Yeah. There we go.
453
00:21:49,367 --> 00:21:52,535
So, this then gets labeled,
454
00:21:52,553 --> 00:21:54,870
Gets sent back to the lab,
455
00:21:54,889 --> 00:21:57,297
And you maintain
the chain of custody.
456
00:21:57,317 --> 00:21:58,757
You've got some initial data.
457
00:21:58,801 --> 00:22:00,467
If it was just simply
something on
458
00:22:00,486 --> 00:22:02,211
The surface, it's
been enough time now,
459
00:22:02,229 --> 00:22:04,213
A lot of that should've
washed away.
460
00:22:04,231 --> 00:22:07,733
So, it might be that you'll
find a different sample
461
00:22:07,885 --> 00:22:08,993
Than what you found before.
462
00:22:09,220 --> 00:22:11,144
That's
it. We're good.
463
00:22:11,164 --> 00:22:13,480
I can't wait to see the results.
464
00:22:13,574 --> 00:22:17,242
For travis and
nick, the skirchak case
465
00:22:17,337 --> 00:22:20,504
Has shown them the methodical
nature of mufon investigations.
466
00:22:20,656 --> 00:22:23,507
I think mufon
did a great job here.
467
00:22:23,734 --> 00:22:27,678
I was very impressed
with both the investigators.
468
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:32,332
Everything I witnessed them
talk about and actually do,
469
00:22:32,352 --> 00:22:36,095
Uh, resonated with me
in terms of the sort of thing
470
00:22:36,189 --> 00:22:38,597
That we did in the government.
471
00:22:38,691 --> 00:22:40,766
The case here
at the skirchak residence
472
00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:44,010
Is a really interesting one
because there's actually some,
473
00:22:44,030 --> 00:22:46,422
Uh, physical evidence left
behind that can be investigated.
474
00:22:46,515 --> 00:22:49,367
And the mufon
guys did a good job
475
00:22:49,518 --> 00:22:52,945
Taking soil samples,
electromagnetic measurements,
476
00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:55,021
Gamma ray measurements,
and things of that nature.
477
00:22:55,116 --> 00:22:57,933
This is the type of process
that we're gonna have to
478
00:22:58,026 --> 00:23:00,026
Standardize more
if we're ever going to
479
00:23:00,046 --> 00:23:01,446
Get to the bottom
of this phenomena.
480
00:23:02,607 --> 00:23:04,715
The skirchak sighting is one
481
00:23:04,942 --> 00:23:08,627
Of mufon's most
intriguing cases of 2022.
482
00:23:08,779 --> 00:23:12,965
But deep in mufon's files
are a host of other sightings,
483
00:23:13,117 --> 00:23:14,975
Many with video evidence...
484
00:23:16,879 --> 00:23:18,729
That cannot be explained.
485
00:23:20,641 --> 00:23:22,883
Gosport, England.
486
00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:26,821
January 9, 2017.
487
00:23:27,982 --> 00:23:30,482
Just before 11:00 p.M.,
488
00:23:30,635 --> 00:23:32,893
Residents of this city
see something unusual
489
00:23:32,987 --> 00:23:35,562
In the night sky.
490
00:23:35,656 --> 00:23:37,489
Dramatic video is captured
491
00:23:37,583 --> 00:23:40,709
Of three lights
converging, separating...
492
00:23:43,071 --> 00:23:45,589
And then reconverging.
493
00:23:45,741 --> 00:23:47,574
For mufon investigators,
494
00:23:47,593 --> 00:23:50,594
This footage was
particularly exciting.
495
00:23:52,247 --> 00:23:54,840
What makes this
video especially compelling
496
00:23:54,934 --> 00:23:59,103
Is that you have the visual
evidence, multiple witnesses,
497
00:23:59,254 --> 00:24:02,440
And it still stands out as
something we can't explain.
498
00:24:02,591 --> 00:24:04,608
That's what we call the
"category three case."
499
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,278
It's the one with the most
potential to be unexplained.
500
00:24:08,931 --> 00:24:12,283
On December 31, 2021,
501
00:24:12,510 --> 00:24:15,936
An even stranger
video of an alleged ufo
502
00:24:16,030 --> 00:24:20,941
Was sent to mufon by soldiers
at tooele army depot in utah.
503
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,686
The soldiers filmed
a strange light
504
00:24:23,704 --> 00:24:27,965
Hovering in the sky for
five consecutive nights.
505
00:24:28,116 --> 00:24:31,043
If it were
some kind of a military plane,
506
00:24:31,195 --> 00:24:32,970
We would be able to detect it.
507
00:24:33,121 --> 00:24:35,509
We have our ways of finding
out that this is a military craft.
508
00:24:35,533 --> 00:24:37,457
We can check all the
information in the area.
509
00:24:37,477 --> 00:24:39,551
There was no craft at that time.
510
00:24:39,704 --> 00:24:42,554
What makes this case
so interesting to us
511
00:24:42,707 --> 00:24:45,465
Is that, after this happened,
512
00:24:45,485 --> 00:24:50,154
All military personnel were
released from the base.
513
00:24:50,305 --> 00:24:51,714
After the fifth night,
514
00:24:51,732 --> 00:24:54,074
Military executives
suddenly showed up.
515
00:24:55,310 --> 00:24:57,644
They interviewed people.
516
00:24:57,663 --> 00:25:00,146
They told everyone on
the base who had seen
517
00:25:00,166 --> 00:25:03,242
These ufos that
they were dismissed.
518
00:25:03,394 --> 00:25:06,486
They told them also
their clothes and things
519
00:25:06,506 --> 00:25:09,340
Had been
contaminated by this ufo.
520
00:25:11,844 --> 00:25:14,345
Are the mysterious
lights in these videos
521
00:25:14,572 --> 00:25:17,664
And accounts by
witnesses like the skirchaks
522
00:25:17,683 --> 00:25:22,502
Evidence that extraterrestrials
are visiting our planet?
523
00:25:22,522 --> 00:25:25,764
For now, the answer
remains a mystery.
524
00:25:25,916 --> 00:25:28,192
But each mufon investigation
525
00:25:28,419 --> 00:25:31,195
Is added to their
ever-growing database
526
00:25:31,346 --> 00:25:36,158
In the hope that, one day,
they will provide vital clues.
527
00:25:37,352 --> 00:25:39,278
Every time you investigate,
528
00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:42,114
You're adding to the
database of knowledge,
529
00:25:42,208 --> 00:25:44,190
And then you look for trends.
530
00:25:44,210 --> 00:25:46,435
It's those sorts
of little details
531
00:25:46,528 --> 00:25:50,530
That you just store away
until they come up again.
532
00:25:50,550 --> 00:25:51,990
And then maybe it
tells you something
533
00:25:52,034 --> 00:25:53,074
Interesting and important.
534
00:25:55,037 --> 00:25:57,537
While mufon has
amassed a large inventory
535
00:25:57,631 --> 00:26:00,206
Of reports they cannot explain,
536
00:26:00,301 --> 00:26:03,978
There are a few that stand
out as truly astonishing.
537
00:26:05,047 --> 00:26:06,622
One of the most
compelling of all
538
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,291
Involved multiple witnesses
539
00:26:09,310 --> 00:26:13,145
Who saw not only a craft,
540
00:26:13,239 --> 00:26:16,824
But also alien visitors.
541
00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:29,402
A man named randy
young has come forward to report
542
00:26:29,496 --> 00:26:33,090
A ufo encounter that happened
almost 50 years earlier,
543
00:26:33,317 --> 00:26:35,408
In 1975.
544
00:26:35,428 --> 00:26:38,912
The story begins when
he was ten years old
545
00:26:38,931 --> 00:26:40,764
At the miracle mountains
boarding school
546
00:26:40,916 --> 00:26:42,600
In hartshorne, oklahoma.
547
00:26:44,586 --> 00:26:48,254
Miracle mountain was kind
of out in the boonies of oklahoma.
548
00:26:48,274 --> 00:26:52,425
That day, my brother and
I were out in the sandbox,
549
00:26:52,445 --> 00:26:55,112
And we saw this circular,
uh, shining light that was
550
00:26:55,339 --> 00:26:57,781
Probably 2,000 or
so feet up in the air.
551
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,027
It didn't have the
movements of an airplane.
552
00:27:02,179 --> 00:27:03,695
It was just hovering.
553
00:27:03,789 --> 00:27:07,366
And, as it got darker,
this craft got closer.
554
00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:09,960
It had lights that went
through the midsection
555
00:27:10,112 --> 00:27:11,520
All the way around,
556
00:27:11,613 --> 00:27:14,632
And it had this classic,
saucer-type shape.
557
00:27:15,968 --> 00:27:19,544
For decades,
randy and his brother
558
00:27:19,639 --> 00:27:22,531
Kept their extraordinary
encounter to themselves
559
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:25,200
For fear of how it
would be received.
560
00:27:25,219 --> 00:27:27,202
You didn't want people
thinking that you're crazy,
561
00:27:27,221 --> 00:27:29,462
You didn't want to
ruin your reputation.
562
00:27:29,556 --> 00:27:32,483
But, in the back of my mind,
that story was always there,
563
00:27:32,634 --> 00:27:35,878
And with all that has been going
on with, um, the government,
564
00:27:35,971 --> 00:27:37,470
The military, jets that are,
565
00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:38,989
You know, tracking these things,
566
00:27:39,141 --> 00:27:41,825
And there's been a lot
more talk about it recently.
567
00:27:42,052 --> 00:27:44,644
I'm like, okay,
if they're talking
568
00:27:44,738 --> 00:27:47,313
This big at this level,
they got to hear this story.
569
00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:49,493
They need to know about
what had happened in hartshorne
570
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,077
In 1975, and so, I
contacted mufon.
571
00:27:53,397 --> 00:27:56,231
The report reached
the desk of mindy tautfest,
572
00:27:56,324 --> 00:27:59,009
The oklahoma
state mufon director.
573
00:27:59,161 --> 00:28:02,421
Randy filed an official
report through mufon. Com,
574
00:28:02,573 --> 00:28:05,165
And I immediately
knew, after reading it,
575
00:28:05,259 --> 00:28:08,352
That this case could be a
very, very important case
576
00:28:08,503 --> 00:28:11,021
To all of ufo history.
577
00:28:11,173 --> 00:28:14,433
I first reached out to
randy and interviewed him.
578
00:28:14,527 --> 00:28:18,344
The next person I spoke
to was philip buchanan.
579
00:28:18,364 --> 00:28:20,422
Philip was one of
the older children
580
00:28:20,515 --> 00:28:22,199
At the school at the time.
581
00:28:22,426 --> 00:28:24,868
And so, he has one of the
more complete memories
582
00:28:25,020 --> 00:28:26,537
Of what transpired there
583
00:28:26,764 --> 00:28:29,781
And the operations
of the school itself.
584
00:28:29,875 --> 00:28:33,544
And then, I spoke with
the teacher via email.
585
00:28:35,272 --> 00:28:38,457
And the teacher described
that some of the kids were hiding
586
00:28:38,551 --> 00:28:41,218
Under the beds because
they were very terrified,
587
00:28:41,369 --> 00:28:45,222
And some of the kids
were looking out the window.
588
00:28:45,449 --> 00:28:48,467
They reported to
see shapeshifting
589
00:28:48,619 --> 00:28:49,893
Entities out there.
590
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,397
They just said, "it
keeps changing."
591
00:28:56,143 --> 00:28:59,219
What mindy found
out after doing all that work
592
00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:01,989
Is that these kids were
recalling the exact same thing.
593
00:29:03,558 --> 00:29:06,485
As these witnesses were
telling their stories years later,
594
00:29:06,637 --> 00:29:08,653
One of the things
mindy asked them to do
595
00:29:08,806 --> 00:29:11,731
Was to actually draw
the ufo that they'd seen.
596
00:29:11,825 --> 00:29:14,810
And the consistency is amazing.
597
00:29:14,828 --> 00:29:17,145
And not only are they
telling the same story,
598
00:29:17,239 --> 00:29:19,831
But they're describing
the same craft.
599
00:29:19,984 --> 00:29:22,575
It shows us that
these old historic cases
600
00:29:22,595 --> 00:29:24,820
Still have something to offer.
601
00:29:24,913 --> 00:29:28,673
I think that, um, we
need an organization like mufon.
602
00:29:28,768 --> 00:29:31,251
I think we need to have
a database for all these
603
00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:32,995
Different incidents,
and I think that
604
00:29:33,088 --> 00:29:35,847
We need to have,
um, as many eyes
605
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,166
And as many investigators
on this as possible.
606
00:29:38,260 --> 00:29:39,943
We need to figure
out what's going on.
607
00:29:41,522 --> 00:29:44,281
There's been a lot
of excitement around this story
608
00:29:44,508 --> 00:29:46,191
Because there
were a lot of things
609
00:29:46,343 --> 00:29:49,011
That corroborated each other.
610
00:29:49,104 --> 00:29:52,272
We find value
in all ufo reports,
611
00:29:52,366 --> 00:29:54,016
And some of the older ones
612
00:29:54,034 --> 00:29:56,184
Serve to validate
some other sightings
613
00:29:56,278 --> 00:29:57,944
That may be in our database.
614
00:29:58,038 --> 00:30:02,282
And so, the older historic
cases really have a lot of value
615
00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:04,384
Whenever it comes to ufology.
616
00:30:06,138 --> 00:30:10,215
This cold case is
one of the most fascinating cases
617
00:30:10,367 --> 00:30:13,293
That mufon's ever investigated
618
00:30:13,387 --> 00:30:15,887
Because students,
619
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,057
They had not spoken
to each other since 1975,
620
00:30:19,151 --> 00:30:23,821
And they all replied
with the same answers,
621
00:30:24,048 --> 00:30:26,657
Which indicates that
something happened,
622
00:30:26,808 --> 00:30:30,310
And everybody
saw the same thing.
623
00:30:30,329 --> 00:30:32,645
In the ancient
astronaut opinion,
624
00:30:32,739 --> 00:30:35,390
Those stories of ufos today
625
00:30:35,409 --> 00:30:38,836
Are the same stories
that our ancestors
626
00:30:38,987 --> 00:30:41,913
In the remote
past also explored.
627
00:30:42,066 --> 00:30:44,232
Their cell phone cameras
628
00:30:44,251 --> 00:30:46,009
Were the walls of caves
629
00:30:46,161 --> 00:30:49,071
And reliefs and carvings
630
00:30:49,164 --> 00:30:52,074
In which they commemorated those
631
00:30:52,167 --> 00:30:54,667
Incredibly significant events
632
00:30:54,687 --> 00:30:58,021
That they were eyewitnesses to.
633
00:30:59,692 --> 00:31:03,101
Is mufon's growing
database further evidence
634
00:31:03,195 --> 00:31:05,696
That extraterrestrial
beings have been visiting
635
00:31:05,923 --> 00:31:08,256
Our planet for
thousands of years,
636
00:31:08,350 --> 00:31:10,775
As ancient astronaut
theorists suggest?
637
00:31:10,928 --> 00:31:14,613
And if so, what do they want?
638
00:31:14,707 --> 00:31:18,116
Perhaps clues can be
found in mufon reports
639
00:31:18,268 --> 00:31:20,878
That go beyond ufo sightings
640
00:31:21,105 --> 00:31:24,214
And describe
terrifying encounters.
641
00:31:29,555 --> 00:31:31,889
Each year,
the mutual ufo network
642
00:31:32,116 --> 00:31:34,449
Receives approximately
10,000 reports
643
00:31:34,468 --> 00:31:36,468
Of ufo phenomena.
644
00:31:36,562 --> 00:31:40,972
While most involve sightings
of strange objects in the sky,
645
00:31:41,125 --> 00:31:43,901
In some cases,
the witness claims
646
00:31:44,128 --> 00:31:47,738
To have come face-to-face
with an alien entity.
647
00:31:47,965 --> 00:31:50,982
A lot of people that
approach mufon
648
00:31:51,076 --> 00:31:53,893
Have these stories of having
these personal encounters
649
00:31:53,913 --> 00:31:55,895
With entities that
they can't explain.
650
00:31:55,915 --> 00:31:59,157
But we found over
the years is that there
651
00:31:59,309 --> 00:32:02,477
Is serious validity
to this phenomenon.
652
00:32:02,570 --> 00:32:07,165
I believe that
worldwide there are millions of people
653
00:32:07,259 --> 00:32:09,259
Who have had these encounters,
654
00:32:09,411 --> 00:32:12,596
But it is very, very
difficult for a lot of people
655
00:32:12,747 --> 00:32:14,673
To come forward.
656
00:32:14,825 --> 00:32:18,009
Maybe they told their family,
maybe they told a good friend,
657
00:32:18,162 --> 00:32:19,752
And they were laughed at.
658
00:32:19,846 --> 00:32:22,105
They feel that they really need
659
00:32:22,332 --> 00:32:25,275
To talk to someone,
but they can't.
660
00:32:26,928 --> 00:32:31,356
In 2011, mufon formed
the experiencer resource team,
661
00:32:31,508 --> 00:32:35,177
A program dedicated to
assisting those who claim
662
00:32:35,195 --> 00:32:39,772
To have been traumatized
by extraterrestrial encounters.
663
00:32:39,792 --> 00:32:44,686
We receive up to 150
reports per month from the people
664
00:32:44,705 --> 00:32:47,965
Who believe that they have
had a missing time event,
665
00:32:48,192 --> 00:32:50,783
They've had a close
encounter with a craft,
666
00:32:50,877 --> 00:32:54,045
Sometimes observed
nonhuman entities,
667
00:32:54,139 --> 00:32:57,199
And we've worked with
members of the military,
668
00:32:57,292 --> 00:32:59,792
We've worked with
medical doctors,
669
00:32:59,812 --> 00:33:01,369
We've worked with
business owners,
670
00:33:01,388 --> 00:33:04,539
Credible people
who have a lot to lose.
671
00:33:04,558 --> 00:33:07,300
Oftentimes, they're frightened.
672
00:33:07,394 --> 00:33:10,562
So, they are seeking assistance
673
00:33:10,656 --> 00:33:13,381
In overcoming the fear
674
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,808
And in gaining a
better understanding
675
00:33:15,828 --> 00:33:17,661
Of what is occurring.
676
00:33:17,812 --> 00:33:20,889
One such
encounter reported to mufon
677
00:33:20,907 --> 00:33:26,244
Was made by trauma nurse
earl gray anderson in 2016,
678
00:33:26,396 --> 00:33:30,632
Just weeks after he had joined
mufon as a field investigator.
679
00:33:32,069 --> 00:33:35,679
Earl was at his home in los
angeles when his room was
680
00:33:35,906 --> 00:33:39,182
Suddenly illuminated
by a mysterious light.
681
00:33:40,410 --> 00:33:43,411
Our room started
filling with light,
682
00:33:43,505 --> 00:33:46,005
And it was a light
with no source.
683
00:33:46,025 --> 00:33:49,693
It wasn't coming from an
object or a lamp or outside.
684
00:33:51,088 --> 00:33:53,679
And the wall opened up.
685
00:33:53,774 --> 00:33:56,925
I couldn't move.
I was paralyzed.
686
00:33:57,018 --> 00:33:59,611
And that was when I
first started feeling afraid.
687
00:33:59,763 --> 00:34:04,190
I saw these little
diminutive creatures.
688
00:34:04,284 --> 00:34:06,543
You would call
them the small grays.
689
00:34:07,862 --> 00:34:10,772
It was almost like watching
a surgical team work.
690
00:34:10,791 --> 00:34:13,275
There were these
tubes that they attached
691
00:34:13,368 --> 00:34:16,127
To the top of my chest,
and I felt like they were
692
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,798
Draining blood or-or
energy, life force from me.
693
00:34:19,950 --> 00:34:21,616
I was yelling in my mind,
694
00:34:21,709 --> 00:34:23,876
And I was crying
out for them to stop.
695
00:34:23,896 --> 00:34:27,956
But they were
not listening to me.
696
00:34:27,974 --> 00:34:31,476
They pulled backwards, out
the same way they came in.
697
00:34:31,570 --> 00:34:33,645
The wall, like, seemed to swirl,
698
00:34:33,797 --> 00:34:36,239
Almost like a little
galaxy in the room.
699
00:34:38,059 --> 00:34:40,243
And it was back to normal,
700
00:34:40,470 --> 00:34:42,746
Except there was
still light in our room.
701
00:34:42,973 --> 00:34:47,826
The light didn't fade for a good
five minutes with no source.
702
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,312
After the experience,
703
00:34:50,405 --> 00:34:54,332
I didn't tell friends
and-and family.
704
00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:57,168
I mean, you're gonna feel
skepticism if somebody says
705
00:34:57,321 --> 00:35:00,413
That, you know, you've just
became a field investigator,
706
00:35:00,432 --> 00:35:03,916
And I'm suddenly saying
that I was visited by ets.
707
00:35:03,936 --> 00:35:06,103
But it scared the
hell out of me.
708
00:35:06,254 --> 00:35:08,663
It was very, very serious.
709
00:35:08,756 --> 00:35:11,108
Earl eventually reached out
710
00:35:11,335 --> 00:35:14,185
To mufon's experiencer
resource team,
711
00:35:14,279 --> 00:35:16,262
And after sharing his encounter,
712
00:35:16,281 --> 00:35:21,100
He decided to become a
member of the ert himself.
713
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,937
It was very, very
helpful to have someone to listen.
714
00:35:24,957 --> 00:35:27,699
And-and that's what I
find in my own dealings
715
00:35:27,793 --> 00:35:29,442
With experiencers now.
716
00:35:29,461 --> 00:35:32,520
The ert is mufon's...
717
00:35:32,614 --> 00:35:35,857
It's-it's like the
compassionate wing of mufon.
718
00:35:35,950 --> 00:35:38,969
Like social workers
for experiencers.
719
00:35:39,196 --> 00:35:41,696
By working
closely with individuals
720
00:35:41,789 --> 00:35:43,865
Who claim to have been abducted,
721
00:35:43,958 --> 00:35:46,885
Mufon has compiled
a wide range of data
722
00:35:46,979 --> 00:35:50,054
On the experiencer phenomenon.
723
00:35:51,224 --> 00:35:54,634
The data that we
collect is pretty interesting.
724
00:35:54,728 --> 00:35:57,320
And we try to find patterns.
725
00:35:57,472 --> 00:36:00,215
It's really kind of astounding,
whenever you break it down
726
00:36:00,233 --> 00:36:03,718
And look at the
different commonalities
727
00:36:03,811 --> 00:36:07,222
Between these different
sightings or abductions.
728
00:36:08,650 --> 00:36:13,228
Most experiencers
have conscious continuous recall
729
00:36:13,246 --> 00:36:15,413
Of being awake.
730
00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:18,066
They become paralyzed.
731
00:36:18,084 --> 00:36:21,494
They have a sense
of an electrical tingling
732
00:36:21,588 --> 00:36:23,922
Sensation through their bodies.
733
00:36:24,016 --> 00:36:28,518
They might hear high-pitched
buzzing tones in their heads.
734
00:36:28,745 --> 00:36:32,689
We used to think that
abduction occurred only once,
735
00:36:32,916 --> 00:36:36,175
But after years of
research, we've realized that
736
00:36:36,195 --> 00:36:41,364
Individuals are taken
multiple times over a lifetime.
737
00:36:41,591 --> 00:36:43,441
We are gaining a
better understanding
738
00:36:43,535 --> 00:36:45,184
Of what is occurring.
739
00:36:45,204 --> 00:36:48,763
With the
volume of empirical data
740
00:36:48,856 --> 00:36:51,433
That has been
collected over the years
741
00:36:51,451 --> 00:36:55,212
Related to mysterious sightings
and reported encounters,
742
00:36:55,439 --> 00:36:58,106
Is it possible that
the organization
743
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:00,866
Could be on the verge
of a major breakthrough
744
00:37:00,886 --> 00:37:02,886
In the ufo phenomenon?
745
00:37:04,389 --> 00:37:06,539
For ancient astronaut theorists,
746
00:37:06,633 --> 00:37:09,392
The answer is a resounding yes.
747
00:37:09,619 --> 00:37:13,288
And they believe it will
come thanks to emerging
748
00:37:13,381 --> 00:37:16,066
Cooperative efforts
between mufon
749
00:37:16,217 --> 00:37:18,902
And the united
states government.
750
00:37:29,915 --> 00:37:32,657
Ufo enthusiasts
across the nation
751
00:37:32,751 --> 00:37:36,920
Tune in to watch as a
congressional subcommittee holds
752
00:37:37,071 --> 00:37:40,164
A hearing on ufos
for the first time
753
00:37:40,259 --> 00:37:42,150
In more than 50 years.
754
00:37:42,243 --> 00:37:45,745
Unidentified aerial
phenomena are a potential
755
00:37:45,839 --> 00:37:47,580
National security threat,
756
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:49,081
And they need to
be treated that way.
757
00:37:49,101 --> 00:37:53,328
The last hearing, held in 1968,
758
00:37:53,346 --> 00:37:55,939
Was called to discuss
project blue book,
759
00:37:56,090 --> 00:38:01,019
The u.S. Government's
first official ufo investigations.
760
00:38:01,171 --> 00:38:03,780
By the late '60s,
761
00:38:03,931 --> 00:38:07,025
Project blue book had been
going for many years, and
762
00:38:07,177 --> 00:38:09,435
Whatever the u.S.
Government knew
763
00:38:09,454 --> 00:38:13,623
About ufos behind the
scenes, this public program
764
00:38:13,775 --> 00:38:17,018
Was just considered
by senior military officers
765
00:38:17,111 --> 00:38:18,686
A waste of time and money.
766
00:38:18,705 --> 00:38:21,356
So, they wanted to
get out of the game.
767
00:38:21,374 --> 00:38:24,134
And they got the
answer they wanted.
768
00:38:24,285 --> 00:38:28,379
A recommendation that the
air force disengaged from this.
769
00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:33,201
So, we've had decades of
playing the whole thing down,
770
00:38:33,219 --> 00:38:35,099
And now, it's as if
they're putting it out there
771
00:38:35,205 --> 00:38:37,038
In front of us all.
772
00:38:37,057 --> 00:38:41,059
We know that our service
members have encountered
773
00:38:41,153 --> 00:38:43,394
Unidentified aerial phenomena.
774
00:38:43,547 --> 00:38:48,733
Some absolutely fascinating
information was disclosed.
775
00:38:48,885 --> 00:38:52,737
The briefers presented evidence,
776
00:38:52,889 --> 00:38:56,074
Talked about how there
had been near misses
777
00:38:56,226 --> 00:39:00,820
Between uap and military jets.
778
00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:04,507
There was discussion
about how these-these objects
779
00:39:04,734 --> 00:39:07,993
Moved with no
visible propulsion.
780
00:39:08,013 --> 00:39:10,329
It looks, uh,
reflective in this video,
781
00:39:10,349 --> 00:39:12,907
Somewhat reflective,
uh, and it quickly passes
782
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,744
By cockpit of the,
uh, of the aircraft.
783
00:39:16,763 --> 00:39:21,082
So, this was absolutely
groundbreaking.
784
00:39:21,101 --> 00:39:24,027
A major
contributor to the hearing
785
00:39:24,178 --> 00:39:25,920
Was jessica tocco,
786
00:39:25,939 --> 00:39:28,698
A lobbyist who briefed
committee members
787
00:39:28,850 --> 00:39:33,703
About civilian ufo
encounters on behalf of mufon.
788
00:39:33,855 --> 00:39:37,523
The mutual ufo network
was founded around the time
789
00:39:37,617 --> 00:39:39,283
That project blue
book was disbanded.
790
00:39:39,378 --> 00:39:42,862
So, to work with the
government on this issue,
791
00:39:42,881 --> 00:39:44,266
And that there
were elected officials
792
00:39:44,290 --> 00:39:45,773
Who were very interested,
793
00:39:45,867 --> 00:39:47,959
That was groundbreaking
and historic.
794
00:39:48,053 --> 00:39:52,055
Many hailed the
hearing as a historic breakthrough,
795
00:39:52,206 --> 00:39:55,892
One that could potentially
usher in a new era of government
796
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:59,787
Cooperation with
civilian ufo research.
797
00:39:59,806 --> 00:40:03,400
When that day comes,
mufon investigators believe
798
00:40:03,551 --> 00:40:05,384
Their large database
799
00:40:05,404 --> 00:40:08,963
Will prove vital to
future investigations.
800
00:40:09,056 --> 00:40:11,390
Mufon stands ready to assist
801
00:40:11,410 --> 00:40:14,819
The government in
any way that we can.
802
00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:17,747
We are really at the forefront
803
00:40:17,899 --> 00:40:19,582
Of ufo investigation.
804
00:40:19,734 --> 00:40:22,735
We have the
world's largest database
805
00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:25,404
Of ufo sightings
and investigations.
806
00:40:25,424 --> 00:40:26,959
Here's the thing,
though, we'll never say,
807
00:40:26,983 --> 00:40:29,592
"oh, it was definitely
extraterrestrial."
808
00:40:29,744 --> 00:40:31,911
We can't scientifically
prove that.
809
00:40:31,930 --> 00:40:34,264
Now, we can say
that it's unexplained,
810
00:40:34,415 --> 00:40:35,775
And that we don't
know what it was.
811
00:40:35,825 --> 00:40:37,100
We're going after the truth.
812
00:40:38,678 --> 00:40:43,255
Mufon has
amassed this treasure chest
813
00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:46,350
Of investigative
reports of cases
814
00:40:46,445 --> 00:40:48,427
That are very similar
815
00:40:48,447 --> 00:40:52,282
To stories of our
ancestors that say
816
00:40:52,433 --> 00:40:57,845
That they have witnessed
strange events up in the sky.
817
00:40:57,939 --> 00:41:01,124
There is a connection
between the two,
818
00:41:01,275 --> 00:41:04,535
And, usually, the simplest
solution is the correct one.
819
00:41:04,629 --> 00:41:09,207
In my opinion, the
suggestion of extraterrestrials
820
00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:11,468
Is the simplest solution
821
00:41:11,619 --> 00:41:16,030
To explain this phenomenon,
this aerial thing that goes on
822
00:41:16,123 --> 00:41:19,033
Up in the sky for
thousands of years.
823
00:41:19,052 --> 00:41:22,979
From ancient
depictions of disc-shaped objects
824
00:41:23,130 --> 00:41:25,130
And strange figures,
825
00:41:25,150 --> 00:41:28,392
To modern-day
video footage of ufos
826
00:41:28,545 --> 00:41:32,547
And accounts of
alien abductions,
827
00:41:32,565 --> 00:41:36,734
Does evidence exist that,
for thousands of years,
828
00:41:36,886 --> 00:41:39,996
Earth has been visited
by extraterrestrials?
829
00:41:40,223 --> 00:41:43,482
And as the public
becomes more open
830
00:41:43,502 --> 00:41:46,986
To discussing this
incredible possibility,
831
00:41:47,005 --> 00:41:49,154
And sharing
personal experiences,
832
00:41:49,174 --> 00:41:52,900
Will we arrive at a
definitive answer?
833
00:41:52,919 --> 00:41:56,420
Perhaps as the evidence
continues to mount,
834
00:41:56,573 --> 00:41:58,573
And more witnesses come forward,
835
00:41:58,591 --> 00:42:02,927
We will finally arrive
at the undeniable truth
836
00:42:03,021 --> 00:42:04,837
That we are not alone.
837
00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:07,690
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