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(ethereal music)

- What about Jeremy?

- No.

- Why not?

- It's a name our child's
going to have their whole life.

So...

- Well the only other
one I have is Alfred.

- (groaning)

- What was that?

- It's a no.

What about Lester?

- (chuckling)

Is that a real one?

Really?

- No.

It's Lester.

(kissing sounds)

(door opening and closing)

(banging around in dark)

(cabinet slamming shut)

(rummaging around television)

- [Voiceover] And we
look at the controversial

life of Jesse Darden.

The billionaire creator
of the perfect46.com

that tried to change the world.

- Jesse was brilliant
and you know,

if he hadn't become
the face of the company

I think things might
have been a little

different for him.

- You know I wish there
was more to talk about.

We don't really
have a relationship.

I haven't spoken to
Jesse in over a year.

That's for the best I think.

We started going
in opposing paths.

We just didn't see
eye to eye anymore.

- It was all so fast.

Almost immediately you
heard whispers of valuations

that were borderline obscene.

The up and the down
and what they did

to Jesse wasn't right.

What he was doing
was revolutionary.

- Right, I mean we kind
of changed the whole rules

of the game.

We went into a nascent market
and we came in really strong.

- [Voiceover] Guns ablazin'?

- Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

- [Voiceover] We'll look
at the founder and CEO of

the perfect46.com, Jesse
Darden when we come back.

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(eggs sizzling in frying pan)

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(water running)

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(light switch
clicking on and off)

(doorknob jiggling)

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(knocking on door)

(footsteps)

- Who is it?

Hello?

- [Voiceover] I have a package.

- Who is it for?

- [Voiceover] Jesse Darden.

(hollow tapping on doorknob)

- One second.

(tiny tapping on doorknob)

(door opening)

- I just need ID.

(door creaking shut)

(footsteps)

(footsteps)

(hollow tapping on doorknob)

(door creaking open)

- Thank you.

(door creaking open)

Here you go.
- Thank you.

- That's fine, just leave it.

(door closing)

(muffled tapping on doorknob)

(footsteps)

- [Voiceover] You
get the package?

- Yeah, it got here an hour ago.

You don't have a tracker in it?

- [Voiceover] I do.

I was just making small talk.

Did you open it?

- No.

- [Voiceover] What
you waiting for?

- Nothing.

Nothing in particular.

I just, I don't see the
difference between if

it's today or tomorrow.

- [Voiceover] You're right.

- Are you still
coming out next week?

- [Voiceover] I'll be there.

Just keep it in a safe place
until we can work on it again.

- Yeah I will.

- [Voiceover] Look, I
can't talk for very long.

- Don't let me keep you.

- [Voiceover] You're not.

(shower water running)

- [Voiceover] The perfect46.com,

a then revolutionary website
that could assess you

and your partner's genomes
and determine the likelihood

of your children inheriting
diseases caused by your genes.

(shower water running)

- I mean somebody has
to be first, right.

In this case, it was us.

- [Voiceover] Capitalizing
on the new gold rush

that was personalized genetics,

Darden was able to move
into a space larger

corporations didn't know
what to do with yet.

With a nimble startup crew
Darden was able to navigate

deals that were
unprecedented in healthcare.

- This was going to be
the answer to a whole host

of diseases.

You know, Type I diabetes,
Chron's disease, Retnoblastoma.

Jesse's stroke of genius
wasn't that he was

going to cure these
diseases; he would simply

breed them out.

That made a lot of
people uncomfortable.

- In the early days of
the site you already had

your genome sequenced.

You would just sign an
authorization form and we were

able to get access
to the state archive

and then check
your compatibility.

It was simple.

And it was fast, and we
were surprised at how

quickly it caught on.

- Honestly I thought it would
be kind of a niche thing.

I didn't think that people
would really want to know

the results.

But after they found
out that it worked,

everyone became curious.

Everyone.

I mean it was
(chuckle), it was nuts.

- [Voiceover] In the
first year of its service,

the Perfect 46 was only
available in California.

This went along with
a "beta" period.

But almost immediately
Jesse found himself

under investigation
by the Senate.

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- [Voiceover] Look
at the controversial

life of Jesse Darden.

(tapping on wood)

(video tape clicking into case)

(banging around tv stand)

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playing in background)

- I don't think it's even
a competitive product.

It hasn't even
come to market yet.

- I feel like he's
everywhere we go.

- What's his name?

- Curtis Waynford.

It sounds made up, right?

(classical music
playing in background)

- Why'd you turn it off?

- It's distracting.

- From what?

The meal?

- Hey.

Am I doing the right thing?

I need you to tell me.

Because you and this company
are the only things I have.

The only things that matter.

What I'm trying to
do is revolutionary.

What Waynford is trying to
do is he's trying to usurp

everything that I've been
building and pull the rug

out from underneath
this company.

He's poached, tried to
poach three of my employees.

He's cooperating with
the Senate hearing.

- So are you.

- Only because I have to.

Okay?

The work we're doing is
going to reverberate through

generations of this world
and I can't have that hearing

put that at risk.

Mr. Chairman, and
members of the committee,

it is a pleasure to be
here today to discuss

the recent scientific
advances in genetics that will

lead to improved health
and the prevention

of many devastating diseases.

Excuse me.

When I started this
company six months ago,

I couldn't have anticipated
being here today.

To catch the attention of
this committee is both a great

honor and a shock.

We've set out to make the best,
most affordable opportunity

for everyone to have the
healthiest children possible.

While this does result in a
small percentage of our users

being told they are not ideal
matches, it does not keep

the couple from having children
should they wish to do so.

Use of the service is voluntary.

The algorithm we use is
proprietary and must remain

a secret for
competitive reasons.

- [Voiceover] The hearings
only lasted for a day.

Leslie Maher, the former
CFO of The Perfect 46

also testified
before the committee.

She had been with the
company from the start.

- If you know that with one
partner you have a 100% chance

they would pass the gene for
sickle cell anemia to a child

and with another partner
you had zero percent chance;

who would you chose?

Not looking at love.

Really not even looking
at those people as people.

How could you possibly
responsibly make that decision

any other way?

Jesse made it irresistible.

- After hearing their
testimony, we concluded that

Darden could continue.

But we decided we would continue
our investigation as well.

I had first heard about
it through my daughter.

She and her husband
had paid for the test,

went through the process,
and were told they were not

an ideal match to have children.

And once you start telling
people they should not

be together, that
is very dangerous.

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(doorknob jiggling)

(banging against front door)

(banging against front door)

(banging intensifies
against front door)

(front door banging open)

(footsteps hitting hard
against wood floor)

- [Voiceover] People with
privacy concerns ether

have no idea what
privacy is or they have

over inflated egos.

Our privacy stopped
existing a long time ago.

(screaming coming
from other room)

- Senator Phelps talked a lot
about the "right not to know"

and I really find
that irresponsible.

Jesse actually said this to me,
he said, "Rights that depend

on ignorance are doomed."

- No, no, no.

No, no, no.

- [Voiceover] To single yourself
out in a planet of billions

of people as special,
to think that we,

or any other company
for that matter,

would somehow use your
information against you

to blackmail you or extort
you is just, is delusional.

- Who is this guy?

- [Voiceover] I don't know.

Grab his arms.

- Where's the safe?

- Should be upstairs.

(footsteps)

- What do we do with him?

- I don't know yet.

(footsteps)

(snapping)

- Hey.

Do you have a safe?

Where's your safe?

Is it on the first
floor or the second?

- It's upstairs.

- Where?

- Who are you?

- Where?

What's the cipher?

- What's the cipher?

- What do you want?

- We're not planning
on hurting you.

- That's reassuring.

What do you want?

- We told you.

- Look, I'm just, trying
to figure out what,

I just want to understand.

- What's to understand?

- Well, first of
all I just wanted...

- Shut up!

Don't talk.

Don't say anything.

- Okay, okay.

- What if the
neighbors heard that?

- They didn't.

- Well you shouldn't...

- We're fine.

If he thought
screaming would help,

he'd be doing it right now.

Nearest neighbor is
half a mile a way.

(mumbling under breathe)

What?

- .64 miles.

- Why would you know that?

- I go running so I
know a lot of distances.

I know that it's 2.39
miles to the nearest town.

.73 miles to the post
office and .64 miles

to the nearest neighbors
house from mine.

(hand slapping against cheek)

- So they probably
didn't hear that then?

- Probably not.

- Good.

Now shut up.

- [Voiceover] What if you
were designing a product

that would last well
beyond your lifetime?

A product that was
made in collaboration

with your closest partner.

Would you test it?

Would you prototype it?

Would you use the most
advanced knowledge

to find out if it was perfect?

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- [Voiceover] Let's talk
now about the new company

The Perfect 46.

After being around
for nearly a year,

they aired an ad during
the Super Bowl that shut

their site down in 15 minutes.

Just massive interest
in this company.

- [Voiceover] You know, one
of the most interesting things

about the company is
what they don't do.

They don't sequence your DNA.

They're actually depending
on the recent legislation

that has passed to
provide them with that.

- [Voiceover] Their
costs would be

up considerably otherwise.

- [Voiceover] Absolutely.

- Causing quite the
stir last night was

theperfect46.com

Did you see that?

- I did.

Yes I did.

- I kept waiting
for the punchline.

You know what I mean?

- Right, right.

We can give you the
perfect children.

And then it ends.

(chuckle) Provocative.

- The hearings and the
Super Bowl ad did more for

the company than we
could've imagined.

We could not have expected the
volume to come in so quickly.

- Okay.

All right.

Now, as we continue to
grow, it's important

to be looking forward.

We're going to be one of
the firsts to be offering

a service like this but we're
hardly going to be the last.

There's going to be
a lot creeping up

right after us.

- [Voiceover] Jesse allowed a
documentary crew unprecedented

access to the early days
of the company after

the Super Bowl ad.

The footage has never
been shown before.

- I just worry about what
will keep us standing out.

What's going to keep us
fresh moving forward.

- More important than
building a product,

we are architecting a company
that's hopefully going to

be much more incredible
than the sum of its parts.

So I actually think
it's the company,

us that's going
to keeps it fresh.

- Yeah, and being challenged
in this way we have

to look and we have to say,
Well, is Downs Syndrome natural?

Is something like
Diabetes natural?

- Yeah.

What is the
perception of natural?

I don't know.

I mean people are going
to be looking at us

in the same way they
looked at in vitro.

We don't know what they're going
to do with the information,

what they might
share, not share.

- Yeah, but if we had decided
that Polio was natural...

- Exactly.

(mask hitting on table)

(scratching on table)

- You know, he doesn't
know who you are.

He just thinks you're some
guy who was in this house.

- Where is he?

- Upstairs.

- Why?

- What?

- What is he looking for?

Does he know that you're
looking for something?

Because I know that you came
here looking for something.

- What makes you think that?

- Because you haven't left yet.

(sigh) And now I know
what you look like.

So...

- That doesn't matter.

- Why?

Why doesn't it matter?

- You know, I told
you to shut up.

- Why did you come in
here with masks on?

- I'm serious.

Stop talking.

- Why?

- Shut up.

Hey!

- We've been trying
for over a year now.

- I know.

- It's frustrating.

- I know.

(footsteps)

What, what do you
want me to say?

- I just want to know
that you're here.

- I am.

I'm here, I'm here.

I just, I can't
stand those people.

I can't listen to
their air all night.

They're supposed
to be, you know,

changing the industry and yet
we're there and we're drinking

champagne and congratulating
each other and why,

why, why, why are we even
stopping the work for a second.

I don't...

- I don't know Jesse.

Because people need a break.

- Does Curtis needs a break?

- He's an exception.

- But then it's not a break.

We're there and we're
schmoozing for hours.

It's more exhausting
than the work.

- Give me your coat.

Do you feel successful?

With all the work
that you've done?

(sigh)

- What?

- [Karyn] Do you feel
successful with the work

that you've gone?

- Me personally?

- [Karyn] Yeah.

(inhaling deeply)

What?

- I'll take the test.

- You will?

- Yeah.

(sighing)

- [Voiceover] I felt bad when
it came out Jesse was sterile.

I did.

Jesse's a private person
and that should be no one's

business but his own.

- The irony was lost on exactly
zero people in the media.

- The test based
compatibility on genomes,

not actual fertility.

Jesse knew this.

He just didn't think it
would ever impact him.

- That's the offer?

- [Voiceover] Yes.

- The answer is no.

Good day.

- After that news came out,
Jesse was approached by

several top tier companies.

None of us knew that
Karyn was divorcing Jesse,

it later explained a lot of
his behavior at that time.

- Frankly, we're
a little confused.

- You insisted that I
meet with you and I have.

- We think this shows
how serious we are.

- You should be
offering me your hearts.

I should be able to take your
still beating hearts from

inside your chests with what
you want to take from me.

- I'm sorry, Jesse.

We just don't see it that way.

- And that's why you're
not buying my company.

- [Voiceover] When we come back

we'll talk to just a few of
the couples that have been...

- What are you doing?

- [Voiceover] affected by
the site, what their stories

are and how they're doing today.

- Do you know who this guy is?

- [Voiceover] The only
information that I think

that the government
needs to have about me...

- No, who is he?

- He's the genetics guy.

He's the perfect gene guy.

You seriously don't...

- Keep your voice down.

- Okay, okay.

(tv host talking in background)

You seriously don't know?

- He looks kind a
little familiar.

- There's nothing
in there Chris.

I've looked everywhere you said.

- (sigh) Is there anything?

- No money.

There's nothing in there, Chris.

You said there was a safe.

(loud popping noise
coming from outside)

- Keep looking.

(footsteps)

Neighbors are getting
started a little early.

(footsteps)

(ominous music)

(fireworks shooting
off outside window)

- That's not what
I'm saying to you.

Stop saying that.

- There's no other
way to look at it.

Now you want out.

- I want to have my
own children, Jesse.

I can't do that with you.

- I know.

You can't do that with me.

- I don't want things
to be like this.

- Well they are.

And so, (clears throat) you
don't have pretend Karyn.

It's okay.

You don't have to sit
there and be sad if you're

not really sad.

You should know that there
are probably a million kids

that would want to
call us Mom or Dad,

but you're too selfish for that.

- I'm not!

- You are.

- I'm not.

- Then let's do it!

Okay?

Let's, come here, let's
adopt a baby and it

will be ours, Karyn.

It'll be more like ours
that son or daughter

than even if we were to
have a biological child.

Now that you know.

Now that it's the only option
for us, you don't want it.

That's just your selfishness.

- You spent months not taking
that sperm analysis and why?

Because you're selfish?

Maybe you knew
something was wrong.

- Maybe I did.

Maybe I didn't.

Maybe I was afraid and
maybe I had a feeling

that something was going
to happen, something bad.

Something like this.

- You should
understand how I feel.

You've made it your life's work.

(fireworks booming
outside window)

(fireworks booming
outside window)

(banging around room)

- [Voiceover] Heather Tolan
wrote a best selling book

about Darden after his
departure from the company.

(tv playing in background)

- [Voiceover] Despite
repeated attempts to obtain an

interview, Steve Heisman
declined to participate

in this program.

- [Voiceover] The
book continues to be

on the best seller list.

- [Jesse] (sigh) You
don't want to cancel?

- No.

Let's just, it's just dinner.

I don't want to tell anyone yet.

- Sure.

When are they going to be here?

- Karyn this is good.

(laughter)

- [Voiceover] You're lucky
your wife is such a good cook.

(group chatter)

- [Voiceover] Does she
do all the cooking?

(group chatter)

I'm so envious of your life.

You just have such a lovely
home and just are such

sweet people, and every
time I see you guys together

I just feel really jealous.

- We've been very lucky.

- [Voiceover] So he has
like this RV out there...

- So when do you guys
think, when are you going to

be kind of, when are you
going to take a break?

- I mean I've, I'm
at the office...

(group chatter)

- I don't know, the area
kind of lends itself to that.

- I just, yeah I'm
trying to stay awake.

- Are your parents still around?

- No they, my dad passed away.

He had a bad form
of cancer and my mom

she had a heart attack.

She was just, you
know, older so.

(group chatter in background)

- The website is pretty
self explanatory.

If you go to perfect46.com
it kind of gives

you brief overview,
an about, and...

- [Voiceover] I'm just, it
doesn't pique my interest.

- What doesn't?

The work?

- [Voiceover] Well, I
mean it's interesting.

But...

- So you wouldn't use it?

- I just don't think
I'd want to know.

You know?

I think, I don't think
I'd want to know if

I was going to get
Alzheimer's or something.

- Right.

But in a generation
Alzheimer's might

be gone if we're successful.

We're creating new normal's
with what we're doing.

Children born today
are going to be born

with this technology, they'll
be born with the knowledge.

- That sounds terrifying to me.

- Why?

- Well, because, because
how do you live your life

when you know how
you're going to die?

- (sigh) Come on.

People live very full lives
living with cancer and HIV.

It's not a death sentence.

You know, it's knowledge.

Obviously you don't
see it that way...

- But I hear what you're saying.

I mean, you know, right now
it's a transitional time.

- Excuse me.

Think about what technology
was like when you were

younger, and now think of
what technology is like

and afforded to children today.

New normal's are
happening all the time

and very quickly.

Because that's actually
the nature of technology.

And what's really great, what's
wonderful is that you can

chose to know if you may
have the APOE4 variant.

And I think you should want
to have that information.

You should want to know.

- Why?

- I think you should want
to have that technology.

- Why do you think we should?

- Don't.

Because if you don't
want that you're being

pretty empty headed.

- Okay, let me ask you this.

Ten years from now,
what does it look like?

What do we do with
the technology?

- (sigh) Ten years
from now we'll probably

see first generation
using our product

and this is, you
know, depending on our

products adoption
rates but we'll see

certain genetic
disorders plummeting.

- Okay, what about 20 years?

- Further reduction
in the numbers.

I don't really know
what you're asking.

- [Voiceover] I'm not
looking for anything.

- The best way to
describe what we do

is Jesse's basically
like a genetic condom.

You know?

- How do you know all
these tests aren't

going to cause a mutation
instead of get rid of them?

- [Voiceover] We do
vet this information.

It isn't just...

- Ron.

I'm sorry.

I just don't actually think
that you understand our process.

- I don't know.

Maybe you could
explain it to us.

'Cause I'm just not
clear what it is

that you're selling.

- What's for?

- [Voiceover] I
don't know, clarity.

So what are you saying?

It's not worth your time?

- Doesn't even
pique her interest.

Mary you're closing yourself
off to a lot of possibilities.

Don't be confused by him.

- [Voiceover] She's
not confused by me.

- No, she is.

- [Voiceover] I think
she's confused by you.

- Well, look if you
only focus on the cons

of anything, right,
anything through time,

flying, driving, you
can see enough there

to convince you
otherwise and you can get

lost in that in genomics too.

- But it's still the
choice of the individual?

Is that what you're saying?

- Right, right.

Right, right.

- So we as individuals should
share only your opinion?

- Look, we have simulations
that can accurately tell us

how stars are going to look
millions of years from now.

And though we don't know how
many lives we're going to

change with The Perfect
46, we have simulations

and the trajectory is positive.

We can make a real
difference, but it hinges on

the idea of participation.

- But what if these flaws
that you're breeding out

of people is the very thing
that makes the brilliant

in the first place?

- Dostoevsky wasn't a
literary genius because

of his epilepsy.

In fact, he was a literary
genius despite it.

- No that's not true.

You have no way of knowing that.

- Yeah you're totally right.

If literary genius
stops in 100 years we'll

know who to blame.

- What we're talking
about is not changing

who people fundamentally are.

It's allowing people,
it's allowing people

to be who they are.

They're not hindered by
a disease or disorder.

- Well it's convenient
for you guys to say that.

That's what you're
promoting right?

That's basically your
mission statement.

- No that's...

- Don't you want perfect?

We should all want perfect.

Why wouldn't you
want perfect, right?

- No that's not actually
our mission statement but I

see what you're trying to do.

- This isn't even
what I was saying.

- No you're right.

It's not.

- What our mission
statement states...

- Jesse.

- You wanted to do this Karyn.

- Okay, first of all you're
talking about manufacturing

a person, okay, a human being.

And she's trying to tell you
she's not interested in that

and that's not
acceptable to you.

- What's not acceptable
to me is ignorance.

We are, for the first
time in human history,

able to take our evolution
into our own hands

and all I'm hearing
is "Not interested."

This is what I'm fighting
against and for every uphill

battle that I have to face,
ignorance and indifference

are maybe the most
abhorrent ones.

There's not even convictions
in what you guys are thinking.

Can you please put that
back on the place mat?

- What?

- Please put that
back on the place mat.

- What, my drink?

- Yes.

- No.

- [Voiceover] Just stop.

- Please put your...

(chair scraping on floor)

(glass clinking on table)

- [Voiceover] What are you...

Karyn how do you stay
married to this guy?

- Oh she's not.

(chair scraping on floor)

We're separating.

So joke's on you pal.

- Jesse, what's the number now?

- (sigh) Well, I'm pleased to
announce we just crossed 500.

- [Voiceover] That's 500
births due to the service?

- Yeah correct.

500 free of birth defects
and genetic disorders.

- Presumably these
children will live forever.

- [Voiceover] All of our
lives will end one day;

that's inevitable unless
you wanna believe in

a Kurzweilian Singularity.

- Which I do.

- The goal of the next
generation is to be

better than the last.

Right?

And you hear all the time
"What's the meaning of life?"

It's that.

- [Voiceover] To build
upon the next generation?

- [Voiceover] Yeah, and now
our service can do that.

(footsteps)

- What are you doing?

- What?

- Your mask?

(box clanking onto table)

- What is this?

Where's the key?

- Where did you find that?

- Upstairs in the attic.

It was sent here overnight.

- Open it.

- What is it?

- Gold bars.

(laughter)

- Why don't you just take it?

Why do you want me to open it?

Take it, it's what you came for.

(box crashing onto floor)

- That's not going to
accomplish anything.

- [Voiceover] Even as Jesse
Darden was dealing with

what ended up being
a very public divorce

the website he created was
enjoying explosive growth.

And with that growth,
new accusations came

from old acquaintances.

- Well, whenever you say
someone can or cannot have

children, there will
always be someone who says

that the one who cannot is you.

That's what makes a topic
like this very dangerous.

Riding the world of diseases
very admirable, sure, it is.

I'm all for preventative
medicine but what Mr. Darden

was doing, was eugenics.

Eugenics came in through
the back door this time.

Under the guise of giving
private individuals the ability

to chose or to make
these decisions to

"upgrade" their children.

- I think it is good,
if I can buy my kids an

extra 20 years.

That's not eugenics in my mind.

But I understand that it is
questionable for some people.

- It was the best
decisions we ever made.

I was adopted by my parents
so it really allowed

me to measure my risks.

- He's three months old now.

- And he's perfect.

- I don't know why anyone
wouldn't use the service.

(birds chirping)

- Where's the key?

- I'm not going to tell you.

Just take the box.

Just take it and get out.

Leave, it's, just take the box.

It's yours.

- [Voiceover] Is it
tagged or something?

- No, no.

- [Voiceover] Does
it have a tracker?

- No.

- [Voiceover] Then why do
you want me to take it?

- I don't want you to take it.

But I just want you to leave.

- Whatever's in that
box is very valuable.

Now it doesn't appear as
though you have anything else

here of value.

When we came here, we
said we wouldn't hurt you

and that's still true.

But if you don't give us
what we want we will be

forced to hurt you
and keep you quiet.

- And if I give you the key?

- [Voiceover] Then
we'll just open the box

and see what's inside.

- No you can, you can just
hurt me if you want to.

- You think you deserve it?

- What'd you guys expect to
find when you broke in here?

- [Voiceover] A safe.

- Well I don't have one.

- When we came in here
you said it was upstairs.

- I don't remember what I said.

Maybe, maybe, maybe there is.

I...

(footsteps)

(birds chirping)

(phone ringing)

- (sigh) Hello?

- [Voiceover] Hi.

- You shouldn't be calling me.

- [Voiceover] Are you serious?

- Am I serious?

How can I help you?

- [Voiceover] I'm pregnant.

(birds chirping)

- Congratulations.

- [Voiceover] Thank you.

(birds chirping)

We used Perfect 46.

I just, I didn't want anyone
else telling you this.

You'll find someone.

- Don't say that.

- [Voiceover] I'm sorry.

- Was that it?

- [Voiceover] Yeah.

(birds chirping)

- You know Jesse never
really got to enjoy any

of the success we had.

His divorce came right at
the apex of everything,

and it was a really
rough time for him.

As a company, we had three
quarters of exponential

growth after that.

We received a lot of feedback
from users who wanted

to find their perfect match.

Single people who wanted
to avoid the heartbreak

of a non-compatible match.

Jesse had always
been against that,

saying that wasn't the reason
he created the company,

but after his divorce the
idea was brought up again

and he was incredibly
enthusiastic for it.

- Jesse brought
me into his office

and we had a conversation about,

and he was really excited
about it but it was

just something that I could
never really get behind.

You know we were
straddling the line

a little bit on the
service being eugenics

in the first place and
I think this really

kind of pushed it
over the edge for me.

And that's, that's when
I decided that, you know,

I wasn't going to be
going forward with them.

- Today we're announcing
something new.

Something that's going to
fundamentally change the way

we think about
our relationships.

Now, a small percentage of
our users have found out that

their partners aren't the
perfect match for them.

It happens.

It's inevitable.

And when you're looking
at the bigger picture,

sometimes the happiness
of one individual doesn't

come into play.

But we love our users
and we've done something

we think they're going to love.

Today we're announcing
version 2.0.

Starting today, you'll be
able to log into the website

and you'll be paired with
your perfect partner.

If one's not
currently available,

you'll be alerted when one is.

Now we're going to take anyone
who has used our service

in the past use this
feature for free.

If you sign up with us
today, this is included.

(clapping)

(cheering)

(clapping)

- After that went live
and with the expansion

into 20 more states
we grew by a power

of 10 in one month.

- Maybe in 10 or
20 years, you know,

something like this
might have happened.

But it was the push
on 2.0 that really

led to the demise
of the service.

And it was really
the trust that people

had in 2.0 that I think
led to the failure

of Perfect 46.

- Version 2.0 was eugenics.

There's no way around that.

Mr. Darden admitted as
much at the conference

later that year.

- And to those that say it's
now just a dating website?

- We've refined it over
time but it continues to be

its own animal.

To say we're a dating service
is a little too simple,

we're a genetic
screening company.

The work we're doing is
going to be judged by time,

but I think we're looking
at really eradicating major

defects and diseases; maybe
even within our lifetime.

- [Voiceover] How do you
account for epigenetic changes?

- We don't.

I mean that's not something
we can help you with.

A lot of people can
get confused by that.

Mislabeling what we do.

I'd say that 70% of what
we do and the real bulk

of the work is
educating the public.

- [Voiceover] Do you ever feel
like the work is premature?

- [Voiceover] In what aspect?

- Well...

- Overall?

Yeah, yeah it's premature.

Most innovations are.

But when will it be mature?

That's the question
going forward right.

When will this service
be a mature service,

as ubiquitous as Kleenex?

While we wait for perfection,
that can be the greatest

enemy of the current good.

- [Voiceover] Voltaire?

- Yeah.

- [Voiceover] Do you
see ever getting into

the pharmacogenomics space?

- [Voiceover] Possibly.

It's not something we're
looking at right now

and there are a lot of
great companies working

within that space.

I think it's our simplicity
that drives people to us.

We want to keep that.

- [Voiceover] One of the
great companies working in

that space was Hadden.

Its CEO Curtis Waynford
has many times been

compared to Darden.

- Well, the major difference
between our companies was

that our business model
was geared toward selling

to your physician.

Jesse was bypassing that and
going directly to the consumer.

You know, we continue to
have an R&D department

that dwarfed anything
that Jesse was doing.

Also he was born in April
and I was born in January.

- [Voiceover] Coming
up for the first time,

exclusive footage from the
genomics conference where

Jesse Darden made what
would end up being his

final public appearance.

- Am I comfortable with
calling what we do eugenics?

No.

- [Voiceover] And later,
what happened at the company

that left it in shambles and
where is Jesse Darden today?

- That's gonna eat into our
ad budget for the whole year.

- But we're going to be
more than making up for

that with our expansion.

- Maybe.

It still feels like
it's the wrong decision.

- Well we don't have
to decide it now.

We can come back to it.

- Hey Leslie.

- Hey Steve.

- So you leave tomorrow?

- Tonight.

7pm.

- Don't sound so excited.

It's just a one-day conference.

- It's five.

- You only have to
be there for one.

One right?

- Right.

- Thank you.

- [Voiceover] Jesse appeared
in public one last time

before the scandal.

At the genomics
conference in Las Vegas.

The event allowed
for no recordings but
still a few managed

to record some footage.

Here for the first
time, it is presented.

Though there were
five panelists,

Jesse would go on to dominate
most of the conference.

- [Voiceover] Recently,
and increasingly,

there has been a backlash
with how people are

using the service.

- How's that?

- [Voiceover] Well
it's an increasing
trend amongst users...

- Let me stop you there.

Actually it turns out that
a lot of our users are happy

with the service.

96% rate us with the highest
level of satisfaction,

which is a phenomenal
number in our industry.

And I think it's because we're
giving people what they want.

- [Voiceover] So
what's preventing
people from networking

and using your service to
maintain racial purity?

- What was preventing
people from doing that

before my service?

- [Voiceover] Well don't
you feel like you might

be enabling such behavior?

- Is anybody doing that?

Is there any evidence of that?

- [Voiceover] None
that I'm aware of.

- Yeah, thank you.

- [Voiceover] Is it true that
your ex-wife is pregnant?

- [Voiceover] That's not
what this panel is...

- [Voiceover]
Jesse, is that true?

- I don't know.

That's something you're going
to have to ask her directly.

- We're going to
be spending nearly

40% GDP on healthcare
over the next 20 years.

That's a big number
on any scale.

The initial genome scans in
California were rooted in

the hope that preventative
healthcare was just on

the horizon.

How is The Perfect 46
part of that solution?

- [Voiceover] It's eugenics.

- It's not.

- [Voiceover] It is if...

- If we're going by
the complete definition

that Eugenics is: The
science of improving a human

population by controlled
breeding to increase

the occurrence of desirable
heritable characteristics.

Then yeah.

- [Voiceover] Yes.

- But.

But.

What you're asking or rather
what's being described to me

in your question
is very different.

The eugenics movement
that you're referring to,

with Huxley and UNESCO
is not what we're after.

We're giving choice
to our customers.

So that they can make the
best, most informed decisions

that they can possibly make.

Truly in 40, 50 years we'll
know what we've accomplished.

What diseases we've
possibly eradicated.

And this is going back to
your original question.

Maybe eugenics doesn't
have to be a dirty word,

and maybe we can purer
toward the definition

and not use it with the
baggage that comes with it.

Am I comfortable with
calling what we do eugenics?

No.

I'm from Indiana.

In 1907 we were
the first state to

legislate forced sterilization.

It's not a proud moment in
the state's history but it's

one we should learn from.

- I actually have a
follow-up to that Jesse.

- Sure.

- One of the areas that we
would like to address is

all of your thoughts
on population control.

How that relates to
the healthcare issue.

If we could start with
Jesse, and just work our way

down the line.

- Don't mind me.

- [Voiceover] We'll get
back to you, I promise.

- What we want to do just
like everybody else is we

want to bring down healthcare
costs and our service

is the most cost-effective
way to do so.

This is not eugenics in the
sense of the 1930s in America.

What we are addressing
are future costs.

Okay?

Costs that are associated
with defects and disorders.

But nobody's been forced
to use this service.

Nobody's being forced and
that should be pointed out.

The goal is what does
it cost to have a child

with cystic fibrosis?

If we have the technology
why would you not want

to avoid that?

Why would you not want the
best, the absolute best

for your child, that
money and technology

could possibly deliver.

- Thank you.

Mr. Feeks, how does genome
play a role in all of this?

- Well in regards to
population control

I guess the bottom
line would be that

there's a precedent
for this already.

If one looks to communist China,

one will find that indeed
there is a one child

per couple policy that
has been in effect

for many years there.

- Well, we have counselors,
our own private counselors

available for all
of our clients.

Something we take
very seriously.

We have to stop thinking
about our own egos

and think bigger.

Zoom out on the
timeline, look at

the progress we've made.

Think 500 years from now.

10,000 years from now.

Where are we going?

We spend a lot of time
thinking about our demise,

but our desire to think about
flourishing as a species

is incredibly low.

- Why do you use
the word perfect?

- Something to strive for.

A carrot being held in front
of us each step of the way.

- So it's not literal then?

(laughs)

- The Optimal 46
was already taken.

- Ah.

- Voltaire said and I'm
paraphrasing but "While we wait

for perfection, that can
be the greatest enemy of

the current good."

I think that's where we are
with a lot of gene therapies

and gene replacement.

We keep hearing experimental
and expensive and what

The Perfect 46 offers is
something preventative right

now at a reasonable cost
and we've already seen,

1700 children born free
of genetic disorders.

It's been fantastic.

And we'll keep getting better.

I don't know if your
child is going to be smart

or funny or good at
sports necessarily.

We're not going to know
what kind of facial hair

your son's going to want to grow

in his 20s.

But we do know that
he or she is not

going to be one of the
half a million children

born with a genetic disorder.

We want zero.

We want to take
that half a million,

bring it down to zero.

(applause)

(door opening)

- Jesse, hey.

(door closing)

Quite a show back there.

- How's that?

- I think I got to
say eight words.

- Oh.

- So you been
receiving our calls?

- Whose calls?

- Well, mine.

My calls.

- Yeah.

- Yeah, you have?

- Yeah.

- Listen, if you won't
consider our buyout,

it's just we're
really interested in
collaborating with you.

- Collaborate in what way?

What is Hadden
bringing to the table?

- We've got the best
R&D effort out there.

Combine that with your
team, we'd be unstoppable.

- I just think that's a
little bigger advantage

for you Curtis than for me.

- Okay let's talk stock options.

- It's not something
that interests me.

- Let's talk a
seat on our board.

- No.

- Let's talk.

- Good night.

(door opening)

(door closing)

- The company was at the top.

And I remember it was
a Thursday afternoon

I first heard about it.

- We first started to
hear about it internally.

It started in
Minot, North Dakota.

These were extraordinarily
rare pairings.

- She was in the
hospital for a while,

finally the doctor
came in and told us

that we should probably
go say our goodbyes now

because there wasn't
a lot of time.

So we went inside and
crawled up next to her

and we said our goodbyes.

(sobbing)

I'm sorry.

And we said our goodbyes.

- [Voiceover] After
switching to Version 2.0,

the system actually paired
incompatibles together.

- What are the odds really?

What are the odds of
something as horrible as that

happening naturally?

I later found out that
those odds were close

to 1 in 15 trillion.

- [Voiceover] When we return...

- What do you want?

What do you want?

- I want a million dollars.

- A million dollars.

What are you going to do
with a million dollars?

A million dollars isn't
really a lot of money.

- [Chris] To you.

- To anybody.

- Then this should
be easy for you then.

- Do you know who I am?

- I know exactly who you are.

- I was trying to
better humanity.

Trying to do something
for all of mankind.

- And you failed.

You didn't better humanity.

So what were you
really trying to do?

- I've lived here for the
last two years because

of what happened.

Do you think that I would've
done it for any other

reason than trying to
make things better?

I was trying to level
the playing field

across class lines.

- You think that we're a
different class of people?

You think that we have
different blood flowing through

our bodies?

You think because you
have money you can do

whatever you want?

- It wasn't about the money.

It was never about the money.

- Then what was it about?

The betterment of humanity?

(chuckle) Oh come on.

- Yeah.

Don't say it like it's trivial.

Don't do that.

- Okay.

So what was the goal then?

You breed this ideal race,
this different class of people

and in a number of generations,
in a hundred years,

you'll have bred this
super race and the rest of

us will be stuck being your
dimwitted underground slaves

because some people couldn't
afford your service.

- Where'd you get that idea?

Where did you hear that,
give you that impression?

You are drawing
conclusions from things

and they are nothing.

You're drawing from what
other people are proselytizing

and that are not based
in objective reality.

No.

I don't think and I don't
want anybody to be my slave.

That's foolish.

You can believe whatever
conspiracy theory is

out there about me.

People think I don't exist.

They think that I'm just
some actor that was hired

to play the role of a
CEO of a company that's

controlled by the government.

You can believe that if
you want to, go ahead.

(sigh) All I was trying
to do was bring something

good into the world.

That was it.

And what you're trying
to do is you're trying to

take something that you
didn't earn, that you didn't

work for with your
valuable time and I did.

I was just trying
to better humanity.

That's all.

- The worst thing was seeing
how the media handled it.

They were out for blood and
they didn't even know why.

- They love to watch a
star fall don't they?

But they were showing
footage of crying parents

and then that whole
next week it was just

case after case.

- [Voiceover] How would
you describe what it was

like having to watch your
child wither away like that?

- It was horrifying.

I mean here's this
tiny little human being

that didn't do anything wrong.

She didn't do anything wrong.

- This is the first one?

- It's the third.

- From the same person?

- We think they're three
separate instances.

- (sigh) Great.

- The police have been notified.

- We're gonna need you
to make a statement.

- About how I don't
know what happened.

- And that we've hired an
independent entity to audit us.

- Is that what we're doing?

- We have to.

- If we have any
chance of surviving.

- I can't go out there if
I don't know what happened.

I, just I can't.

- They'll speculate
if you're not there.

- Then let them.

Because the board is just
going to have me resign anyway.

I can't subject myself to this.

We have to start using
all of our time to get

to the root of this problem.

(footsteps)

(papers scattering to floor)

- [Voiceover] What
measures are being taken

so that something like
this doesn't happen again?

- What has happened
is a tragedy.

So we have hired an
independent firm to audit

all of our process.

Now 99.95% of our
clients are not affected.

That we want to make
sure, we want to take

every precaution in this manner.

- The glitch in the algorithm
caused the site to pair

partners that had the G269S
mutation in the HEXA gene.

With each pair of partners
with a copy of the gene,

there was a 25% chance
that their child would

be born with Tay-Sachs.

- [Voiceover] How many
partners were paired?

- 308.

We had 24 confirmed
births due to that error.

(sigh)

Those children are expected
to only live 3-5 years.

Eight of the 24 born
have died so far.

- It ruined the company.

Even after the company was
sold, the lawsuits followed.

- Hey, thanks, you
know, I just wanted

to come by and...

(footsteps)

So this is it, huh?

- Yeah.

Most of the stuff was hers.

It's been this way for a while.

- I saw the sign out front.

- I really need to
get out of here.

(birds chirping)

- Did you talk to the board?

They're not going to
announced right away.

You're going to get
a chance to breathe.

- No I won't.

- Jesse.

- They think I did
something that I didn't do.

Why would I do this?

- I know that.

I think they know that.

The public has a hard
time understanding

how this thing works.

They see you.

They think you are the company.

- Only .05% affected.

- When that .05% is
people it's not the same

as something going wrong
on an assembly line.

- I know that.

Do you think it was intentional?

- Like someone going in and
adjusting the algorithm?

- Yeah.

Because if it wasn't
intentional, I don't

know how it happened.

- Who would have that access?

If we are seeing this now,
that means those errors

happened months ago.

- Right.

Almost a year.

It would mean that
all our servers

are completely compromised.

Everything that we've
been working toward.

Do you think it's possible?

- Is it possible?

Yeah.

- Waynford?

- I didn't say that.

- Who do you think?

- No one.

I don't want you running
anywhere with this idea.

- Yeah but maybe just to be...

- No.

Just, stop.

- Everything that I've
tried to build up.

Steve.

(ethereal music)

- [Voiceover] The Perfect
46 stock price fell

36% the next morning.

(ethereal music)

10 days later the board
announced Jesse's resignation.

(ethereal music)

After three months the
independent investigation

found that no
individual was at fault.

(ethereal music)

- It's still a mystery to us.

We really don't
know what happened.

As far as we can tell,
the event was isolated.

- We're not trying
to stifle innovation.

It is a shame though
that our investigation

couldn't have stopped those
events from occurring.

- [Voiceover] Six months
later, theperfect46.com was

sold to Hadden for
approximately 1/10th of

its highest valuation.

- We saw a really great
intellectual property.

It was awful how it came
to our doorstep but,

I don't think it's something
that Jesse would've

done but at that point,
he had disappeared.

(ethereal music)

(ping-pong ball
clacking on table)

(ethereal music)

(ping-pong ball
clacking on table)

(ethereal music)

(ping-pong ball
clacking on table)

(ethereal music)

(footsteps)

(ethereal music)

(footsteps)

(door opening)

(door closing)

(ethereal music)

- [Voiceover] Most
of the employees were

let go, Steve Heisman
resigned from the board

and Hadden now enjoys
many of the patents that

once drove the innovation
at theperfect46.com.

(water splashing)

(birds chirping)

(door lock clicking)

(doorknob jiggling)

(footsteps)

(tv playing)

- We are vetting
the process more.

We're working hand in
hand with government

and we're working to not
make the same mistakes

that were made in the past.

- This is the third
such incident this week.

I'm standing outside of...

- [Voiceover] Sickle
cell anemia to a child

and with another partner
you have 0% chance.

Who would you choose?

Not looking at love.

Really not even looking
at those people as people.

How could you possibly
responsibly make

that decision any other way?

(ethereal music)

We had 24 confirmed
births due to that error.

- It was horrifying.

I mean here's this
tiny little human being

that didn't do anything wrong.

- The goal of any
generation, I'm paraphrasing

of course but the
goal of any generation

is to be better than the last.

Right?

And you hear all the time,
what's the meaning of life?

And it's that.

- [Voiceover] To build
upon the last generation?

- Yeah.

And now our service can do that.

(ethereal music)

- [Voiceover] There will
always be someone who will say

that the one who cannot is you.

That is what makes a topic
like this very dangerous.

You know, riding the world
of diseases is admirable.

Sure, I'm all for
preventative medicine.

(ethereal music)

- Firm to audit all
of our processes.

Now, 99.95% of our
clients are not affected.

But we want to make sure.

We want to take every
precaution in this matter.

(ethereal music)

- I don't know what to do now.

I don't know at all.

(ethereal music)

(static from tv)

- I was never trying
to force anybody to do

anything about the results.

I was never in favor
of anything like state

sanctioned marriage or
having the government

be in control of that.

That's not what I was...

- You say that as if it
puts you in the clear.

"Just because I created
something doesn't

mean I'm responsible for it."

Yes it does.

You are absolutely
responsible for the way

that people used your service.

- You think that?

Why?

Why is it up to me?

What choice they make
or what decision?

- I'm not asking you to make
the decision or the choice,

I'm saying take responsibility.

- I have.

I carry all the responsibility.

I'm going to be forever
burdened with this

and I'm going to be
constantly forever spending

time in my head wondering
what went wrong,

what led to that error?

If I hadn't created
the company would it

have even happened?

I don't know how far back my

personal responsibility goes.

- Are you seriously saying you

don't think you're
responsible for what happened?

- I think it's possible.

- What are you doing about it?

You sit out here, you
take pity on yourself.

- I'm working on a solution.

- [Chris] To what?

- To fixing the algorithm.

- What is there to fix?

They sold the company.

It's not yours anymore Jesse.

- I'm aware of that.

- Then why are you
wasting your time?

- Because it's the
right thing to do.

I'm trying to be responsible.

- Is that the box?

- And it's worth a lot more
than a million dollars.

- Yeah.

(footsteps)

I don't care.

- What don't you care about?

That I can see your face?

You don't care about that?

Good, because your fingerprints
are all over this place too.

How about this?

How about you take off your mask

and I'll tell you
where the key is.

It's in the coffee
can to the sink.

(footsteps)

(lid popping off coffee can)

(key rattling in can)

(coffee can clanking on counter)

(footsteps)

Well come on, go ahead open it.

- [Chris] No.

- Look inside.

- [Chris] Why?

- I wanna know what you see.

(key turning in box lock)

(papers rustling)

(sigh) I'm handing
calculus to a flea.

You don't know what
to do with that.

(papers rustling)

- What is this?

- Exactly.

- Did you think if you
disappeared progress would stop?

You think we need
you to do this?

- I think you need
me to do that.

- We don't.

- Then why don't
you just kill me.

- What?

- Kill me.

This isn't random.

You guys were sent here by
somebody, it doesn't matter who.

It doesn't.

I can think of any
number of people,

I've made a lot of enemies.

And a lot of them would
want to get inside my head

and prune from it, but I
actually can't think of

anybody that would
willingly and knowingly want

to go inside my head and
destroy the potential.

Do you want me to
say that I think that

I'm better than you?

I do.

I do think that I'm
better than you.

I think that the world
is better because of

my creations.

And I don't think that
you could even dream

of what's inside my head.

- Free market
capitalism failed you.

- Free market capitalism
proved an idea

like mine could flourish.

- Hm-mm.

- (clearing throat)
I've cooperated.

I've given you what you want.

So I think it's time
for you guys to leave.

I think you should go.

- You don't get
to say that Jesse.

- How'd you get here?

- You don't have to
worry about that.

- How did you get here?

I mean how did you
know to come here?

- We knew you lived here.

- How did you get here?

Did you get here by
like a car or a horse?

- You said you didn't know him?

- Oh he lied to you.

He knows exactly who I am.

What did he tell you?

- Chris.

- Chris.

(clamoring and footsteps)

(door opening)

(door closing)

(footsteps)

- What are you doing?

- Yes, okay.

I know who he is.

- Why wouldn't you tell me that?

- I thought it would be easier.

- We've been here all night.

He knows our names
he knows our faces.

- Who cares all right,
that doesn't matter.

- Why?

Why doesn't that matter, huh?

- No one is going to
believe anything he says.

That's if he bothers to say
anything at all and he won't.

- How do you know that?

Huh?

How do you know that?

What are you trying
to get from him?

Those papers?

- Yeah.

- And what, you take it and
you sell it for yourself?

- [Chris] No.

- That's what you were doing.

"Oh man, there's nothing here."

And then we go our
ways and you sell

it for what, 50 million?

May be more, huh?

You think I won't find out?

- I need you to trust me.

Okay?

He's an incredibly
delicate individual.

- Delicate?

- Yeah.

He just asked us to kill him.

Yeah he did.

- Yeah but I don't think that's
what he was trying to say.

He was proving a point.

- Which is what?

- That we won't, that
we won't kill him.

- Well why don't we?

- Because then he
becomes a martyr.

He doesn't deserve
something so great.

(birds chirping)

(footsteps)

(door opening)

(door closing)

(footsteps)

- Who do you work for?

- I don't, I don't understand
what it is that you're asking.

(footsteps)

- You want this.

You wanted this.

You came here all
the way here for this

and you don't even
know what it is.

- I didn't.

I didn't come here for that.

- You did.

You did.

You know what?

It's really, really
tiring to sit here

and watch you lie.

Stop Lying.

Stop lying.

You broke me down,
you broke the whole

thing down so congratulations.

Who's making you do this huh?

Matthew?

Curtis?

Is Curtis making you do this?

Steve?

Maybe it's Steve.

What did Steve make you say?

What is he telling you to do?

- I don't work for anyone.

But you're willing
to take it, huh?

You're willing to take this?

(laughter)

- You're a lot more messed
up than I ever thought.

More gone than I ever assumed.

- You know probably in
about an hour or less

I'm going to free
myself from this chair,

and you're probably going
to be long gone by then.

I bet they told you just
to leave me here like this.

But you know what, even
if you take my files

I still got it up here.

Still got them all up here.

In my head.

So, why don't you tell me.

- I don't work for anyone.

I don't.

(bag falling on floor)

You know that small
percentage that was affected?

- Were you one of them?

- My sister was.

My sister took your test,
and she and her husband

were told they
weren't compatible.

They divorced and for a time
she was severely depressed.

Again, again she took your test.

This time she was
paired with someone.

They had a baby.

That baby was born
with Tay-Sachs.

Do you know what that is?

- Yeah.

- Do you know what causes that?

- Yeah.

- Their baby died.

He died when he was
only 8 months old.

I'm not a good person.

And that baby is dead.

And I'm still here.

My sister killed
herself a week later.

(chair creaking)

Apologize to me.

Say you're sorry and we'll go.

- [Jesse] I didn't
kill your sister.

- You treated her
like a lab animal.

Now just say it.

You just, you say you're
sorry and we'll leave.

We'll go.

- The independent counsel...

- Found that no
one was at fault.

How is that possible?

How is it possible that
no one did anything?

- You think that I haven't
thought about that too?

I know it may (coughing)
feel like you want to come

here and blame somebody for
something because it hurts.

I could've done that too.

Blame somebody.

But I didn't, I just, I
chose to keep living my life.

- That's why we're here?

- It wasn't hard for me to
figure out where you live.

You still use your real name.

- I don't have anything to hide.

I take responsibility for
the creation of the service.

I take personal responsibility
for the system error

that led to the birth
of those children.

But your sister's reaction
to that event is not

my fault or my responsibility.

I'm sorry.

(footsteps)

(ethereal music)

(door opening)

(ethereal music)

(door closing)

(ethereal music)

- [Voiceover] No one
has seen him in years.

The company he has
built is now gone.

Will Jesse Darden
ever resurface?

And if he does, will he have
something up his sleeve?

- I don't know.

(ethereal music)

- Absolutely.

I wouldn't count him out.

I would never count him out.

(ethereal music)

- Honestly I don't know.

The only thing I do know
is I wouldn't be surprised

by anything that he does.

(ethereal music)

- We have to stop thinking
about our own egos

and think bigger.

Zoom out on the timeline.

Look at the progress we've made.

Think 500 years from now.

Think 10,000 years from now.

Where are we going?

We spend a lot of time
thinking about our demise,

but our desire to think
about flourishing as a

species is incredibly low.

(ethereal music)