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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,104 --> 00:00:07,574 John Lennon was a brilliant, genius songwriter. 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,843 [Chris Connelly] He was one of those magical people, 3 00:00:09,909 --> 00:00:11,978 emblematic of an entire age. 4 00:00:12,045 --> 00:00:15,015 [man] A working-class kid from Liverpool. 5 00:00:15,081 --> 00:00:17,183 He was one of the originals of this century, 6 00:00:17,250 --> 00:00:18,618 no question about it. 7 00:00:18,685 --> 00:00:21,087 The Beatles, it was a musical revolution. 8 00:00:22,322 --> 00:00:24,090 [Philip Norman] He was a rebel. He was a radical. 9 00:00:24,157 --> 00:00:25,792 He became an activist for peace. 10 00:00:27,660 --> 00:00:30,463 [man] He said a lot of things that a lot of people believed in. 11 00:00:30,530 --> 00:00:33,166 It just spoke to a generation in a different way 12 00:00:33,233 --> 00:00:35,468 than anyone else has been spoken to before. 13 00:00:35,535 --> 00:00:37,937 [Michael Epstein] Some of us had a healthy relationship 14 00:00:38,004 --> 00:00:40,807 with his celebrity, but there are others that felt like they owned him. 15 00:00:40,874 --> 00:00:42,375 -[man] Who got shot? -John Lennon. 16 00:00:42,442 --> 00:00:45,979 [reporter] John Lennon was shot and killed tonight in New York City. 17 00:00:46,046 --> 00:00:47,580 [Howard Cosell] An unspeakable tragedy. 18 00:00:47,647 --> 00:00:49,749 I said, "Do you realize what you have done here?" 19 00:00:49,816 --> 00:00:53,653 And he said, "I killed myself." He said, "I'm John Lennon." 20 00:00:56,756 --> 00:00:59,492 [reporter] People came out here, singing Beatles ballads. 21 00:00:59,559 --> 00:01:01,061 They just want to try to feel close 22 00:01:01,127 --> 00:01:03,129 to the man whom they say touched their lives. 23 00:01:03,196 --> 00:01:05,365 That's how much love people had for John Lennon. 24 00:01:05,432 --> 00:01:07,700 [Joel Siegel] His music made our good times better. 25 00:01:07,767 --> 00:01:10,370 His music made our bad times at least livable. 26 00:01:10,437 --> 00:01:12,105 If he hadn't dreamed so beautifully, 27 00:01:12,172 --> 00:01:13,640 it wouldn't hurt so much. 28 00:01:13,706 --> 00:01:16,609 [Elliot Mintz] Here we are, 40 years later, 29 00:01:17,210 --> 00:01:20,080 talking about this man and this man's music. 30 00:01:26,152 --> 00:01:29,322 [birds tweeting] 31 00:01:38,665 --> 00:01:42,836 [John Lennon] My role in society, or any artist or poet's role, 32 00:01:42,902 --> 00:01:45,672 is to try and express what we all feel. 33 00:01:45,738 --> 00:01:48,408 Not as a preacher, not as a leader, 34 00:01:48,475 --> 00:01:51,111 but as a reflection of us all. 35 00:01:54,180 --> 00:01:56,282 [Jack Douglas] John, he was always a person 36 00:01:56,349 --> 00:01:58,318 that was ahead of the curve. 37 00:01:58,852 --> 00:02:01,721 His lyrics were always about the truth. 38 00:02:02,755 --> 00:02:04,524 I asked him at one point 39 00:02:04,591 --> 00:02:07,193 what his secret was for writing great songs. 40 00:02:07,260 --> 00:02:11,264 He said, "You write the truth and you make it rhyme." 41 00:02:12,599 --> 00:02:13,900 [Lennon] It sort of dawned on me 42 00:02:13,967 --> 00:02:16,002 that love was the answer when I was younger. 43 00:02:16,069 --> 00:02:19,005 My first expression of it was a song called, "The Word." 44 00:02:27,580 --> 00:02:31,518 "The word is love" seemed like the underlying theme to the universe, 45 00:02:31,584 --> 00:02:34,754 or to everything that was worthwhile. 46 00:02:38,124 --> 00:02:39,993 [Epstein] Who was John Lennon? 47 00:02:41,394 --> 00:02:45,732 At one time, John Lennon was probably the most famous rock and roll musician, 48 00:02:45,798 --> 00:02:48,334 maybe the most famous artist in the world. 49 00:02:48,401 --> 00:02:49,969 [crowd cheering distantly] 50 00:02:51,137 --> 00:02:53,540 Growing up, I remember seeing the Beatles on Ed Sullivan 51 00:02:53,606 --> 00:02:55,708 and being totally stunned. 52 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:09,689 [reporter] The Beatles, who originated as a small-time act out of Liverpool, 53 00:03:09,756 --> 00:03:13,493 now have no rivals as the kingpins of the teenage set. 54 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,895 [Epstein] John Lennon formed and led 55 00:03:15,962 --> 00:03:18,131 and was the Beatles along with Paul McCartney, 56 00:03:18,198 --> 00:03:20,400 George Harrison and Ringo Starr. 57 00:03:21,034 --> 00:03:22,402 [reporter] And here they are, 58 00:03:22,468 --> 00:03:25,471 fresh from their triumphant appearances in the United States. 59 00:03:25,538 --> 00:03:28,741 [Andy Newmark] You couldn't live your life through the '60s with the radio on, 60 00:03:28,841 --> 00:03:30,009 hanging out with your friends 61 00:03:30,076 --> 00:03:32,612 and not know every Beatles song from beginning to end. 62 00:03:32,679 --> 00:03:34,881 [reporter] What do you like about the Beatles, anyway? 63 00:03:34,948 --> 00:03:38,184 Their music, and the way they dress, and their hair and their looks. 64 00:03:38,251 --> 00:03:40,687 -[reporter] They look like girls to me. -They do not! 65 00:03:41,287 --> 00:03:43,523 [Epstein] They were the greatest band in history. 66 00:03:43,590 --> 00:03:45,558 They transformed rock music. 67 00:03:45,625 --> 00:03:47,193 They transformed pop culture. 68 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,130 [Norman] Beatlemania, initially, in the 1960's, 69 00:03:51,531 --> 00:03:53,733 this incontinent screaming of young woman. 70 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,368 [reporter] Forty young ladies fainted, 71 00:03:55,435 --> 00:03:57,870 but authorities feel that some were playing possum 72 00:03:57,937 --> 00:03:59,872 so that they might be lifted over the fence 73 00:03:59,939 --> 00:04:02,008 and thus be nearer their idols. 74 00:04:03,876 --> 00:04:05,678 [Bob Gruen] The smart one would be John Lennon. 75 00:04:05,745 --> 00:04:07,180 The cute one was Paul McCartney. 76 00:04:07,247 --> 00:04:09,449 The deep one would be George Harrison. 77 00:04:09,515 --> 00:04:11,584 And cute one number two would be Ringo Starr. 78 00:04:11,651 --> 00:04:13,653 [Earl Slick] John was my favorite Beatle. 79 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,756 He was the irreverent, you know, rock 'n' roll guy. 80 00:04:16,889 --> 00:04:18,591 [reporter] How long will you be in Montana? 81 00:04:18,658 --> 00:04:20,627 I have'nt got a clue. I didn't even know we were here. 82 00:04:20,793 --> 00:04:23,129 In the sense, you know, looking back today, 83 00:04:23,196 --> 00:04:24,430 using different words, 84 00:04:24,497 --> 00:04:26,699 we would say he would be the punk guy from the Beatles. 85 00:04:26,766 --> 00:04:29,035 [crowd cheering] 86 00:04:29,669 --> 00:04:32,939 [Norman] He was too intellectually good for Beatlemania. 87 00:04:33,473 --> 00:04:36,442 The screaming, this wailing of adoration 88 00:04:36,876 --> 00:04:40,613 that greeted them wherever they went, completely sickened him. 89 00:04:41,414 --> 00:04:43,383 John was so offended 90 00:04:43,449 --> 00:04:46,219 that they weren't listening to the Beatles' music. 91 00:04:47,820 --> 00:04:50,757 [Connelly] In 1964, the band even starred in a film 92 00:04:50,823 --> 00:04:53,459 that made fun of the hysteria of Beatlemania, 93 00:04:53,526 --> 00:04:54,961 A Hard Day's Night. 94 00:04:55,028 --> 00:04:57,030 [Lennon] We were involved in so many things, 95 00:04:57,096 --> 00:04:59,599 and we were putting out so much work, 96 00:04:59,666 --> 00:05:02,001 and we were making movies, making public appearances, 97 00:05:02,068 --> 00:05:04,003 performing at shows and all-- 98 00:05:04,070 --> 00:05:06,205 Traveling the world and doing all that. 99 00:05:06,272 --> 00:05:07,840 There was no time to reflect. 100 00:05:09,108 --> 00:05:12,145 [Epstein] It was an empty, hollow experience for John. 101 00:05:15,148 --> 00:05:17,317 At the peak of his popularity, 102 00:05:17,383 --> 00:05:20,153 he's writing and singing a song like "Help." 103 00:05:20,687 --> 00:05:22,755 -It's our latest record. -[crowd cheering] 104 00:05:22,822 --> 00:05:24,791 The Beatles promoted their album Help 105 00:05:24,857 --> 00:05:26,859 on the TV show Blackpool Night Out. 106 00:05:37,270 --> 00:05:39,772 [Epstein] "Help" is a cry for help. 107 00:05:44,911 --> 00:05:47,280 [Norman] He was a mass of insecurity. 108 00:05:47,347 --> 00:05:49,482 No matter how famous he became 109 00:05:49,549 --> 00:05:52,151 or how much people showed they loved and adored him, 110 00:05:52,218 --> 00:05:54,887 he never felt loved, he never felt secure. 111 00:05:55,755 --> 00:05:58,324 He thought he wasn't loved as a child, 112 00:05:58,391 --> 00:06:00,593 because his mother had given him over 113 00:06:00,660 --> 00:06:04,731 into the care of his mother's older sister, John's Aunt Mimi. 114 00:06:05,264 --> 00:06:08,201 His Aunt Mimi was the force in his life. 115 00:06:09,535 --> 00:06:14,240 When John's mother died, John was 16. 116 00:06:16,676 --> 00:06:18,711 [Epstein] Years later, 117 00:06:18,778 --> 00:06:21,581 he'd found that pop stardom 118 00:06:22,382 --> 00:06:23,883 didn't fill the void. 119 00:06:23,950 --> 00:06:27,453 It didn't ease the pain that defined his life. 120 00:06:29,288 --> 00:06:33,393 He found meaning and purpose in Yoko. 121 00:06:33,459 --> 00:06:37,630 Yoko Ono was an artist from New York who was living in London at the time. 122 00:06:37,697 --> 00:06:40,032 He met Yoko first in 1966. 123 00:06:40,967 --> 00:06:42,535 He would fall in love. 124 00:06:42,602 --> 00:06:45,004 He was married already to Cynthia. 125 00:06:46,272 --> 00:06:49,909 [Kurt Loder] John was married early on, even when the Beatles started out. 126 00:06:49,976 --> 00:06:51,844 He and his wife had a son, named Julian. 127 00:06:53,679 --> 00:06:57,083 [Epstein] But he would fall in love with a Japanese artist 128 00:06:57,150 --> 00:07:00,753 and already be married, have a kid. 129 00:07:00,820 --> 00:07:06,092 It's hard to describe how radical that was in '68. 130 00:07:06,159 --> 00:07:08,861 [reporter] John Lennon, he and his girlfriend Yoko Ono. 131 00:07:08,928 --> 00:07:10,997 [woman] John! She's horrible! 132 00:07:11,063 --> 00:07:12,865 Cynthia's better than her! 133 00:07:12,932 --> 00:07:15,601 [reporter] That girl next to me just said, "Cynthia is better than her." 134 00:07:15,668 --> 00:07:17,703 -Cynthia is John Lennon's wife. -[woman] We hate Yoko! 135 00:07:17,770 --> 00:07:19,906 [reporter] Yoko Ono is his girlfriend. 136 00:07:20,773 --> 00:07:24,444 [Elvis Mitchell] Yoko Ono was a rebel and a troublemaker. 137 00:07:24,510 --> 00:07:29,048 He got license from her to be the person he'd always wanted to be. 138 00:07:29,649 --> 00:07:33,152 [Norman] The reason that Yoko had such an effect on him when they met 139 00:07:33,219 --> 00:07:35,421 was that Yoko said, "You can be yourself. 140 00:07:35,488 --> 00:07:37,223 "You don't have the say yes all the time. 141 00:07:37,290 --> 00:07:40,159 "You can just do what you want. If you want to do real art..." 142 00:07:40,226 --> 00:07:43,029 John thought art was what Yoko did. 143 00:07:43,095 --> 00:07:46,065 Collage, performance art, that kind of thing. 144 00:07:46,132 --> 00:07:50,002 It never occurred to John that a song like "Norwegian Wood" was art. 145 00:07:50,069 --> 00:07:51,270 It was art. 146 00:08:00,513 --> 00:08:03,683 You've gone a long ways from "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" to "Eleanor Rigby." 147 00:08:03,749 --> 00:08:05,418 What direction are you trying to move your music? 148 00:08:05,685 --> 00:08:08,187 You know, we're just trying to move forward, 149 00:08:08,254 --> 00:08:10,923 and people seem to be trying to just sort of hold us back. 150 00:08:12,492 --> 00:08:13,693 [Connelly] The Beatles. 151 00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:15,595 They'd gotten together when they were very young. 152 00:08:15,661 --> 00:08:18,064 They had lived very intense lives together. 153 00:08:18,130 --> 00:08:22,001 And for creative reasons and for business reasons, 154 00:08:22,068 --> 00:08:23,970 these guys started pulling apart. 155 00:08:24,036 --> 00:08:25,671 [reporter] The event is so momentous 156 00:08:25,738 --> 00:08:28,875 that historians may one day view it as a landmark 157 00:08:28,941 --> 00:08:31,444 in the decline of the British empire. 158 00:08:31,511 --> 00:08:33,679 The Beatles are breaking up. 159 00:08:38,184 --> 00:08:41,587 [Connelly] Yoko Ono was initially vilified by Beatles fans. 160 00:08:42,121 --> 00:08:45,424 They saw her as stealing away John Lennon. 161 00:08:45,491 --> 00:08:48,127 But Yoko Ono did not break up the Beatles. 162 00:08:48,194 --> 00:08:50,196 The Beatles broke up the Beatles. 163 00:08:50,263 --> 00:08:52,031 Some of the things people have said about you 164 00:08:52,098 --> 00:08:53,499 haven't been very kind lately. 165 00:08:53,566 --> 00:08:55,835 -No, no. No. -Does this get you down? 166 00:08:55,902 --> 00:08:58,471 It was a bit depressing the way they kept picking on Yoko, 167 00:08:58,538 --> 00:08:59,839 you know, and saying she was ugly 168 00:08:59,906 --> 00:09:01,574 and all the personal things like that. 169 00:09:01,641 --> 00:09:03,376 But I know she isn't, so... 170 00:09:03,442 --> 00:09:05,011 John and Yoko left England 171 00:09:05,077 --> 00:09:08,347 because the press was attacking Yoko so viciously. 172 00:09:09,782 --> 00:09:12,051 And so, they left to come to New York. 173 00:09:12,118 --> 00:09:13,953 And in New York, they got a lot more respect. 174 00:09:17,456 --> 00:09:20,993 The 1970s was a time of turmoil in New York. 175 00:09:21,060 --> 00:09:22,728 There was a lot of people out of work. 176 00:09:22,795 --> 00:09:24,730 But even with the shortages of money 177 00:09:24,797 --> 00:09:27,767 and the lack of opportunity, the lack of jobs, 178 00:09:27,833 --> 00:09:31,404 it was a very exciting time and it was a very creative time. 179 00:09:31,470 --> 00:09:34,073 [Lennon] In New York, it's a bit like London, only more so. 180 00:09:34,140 --> 00:09:36,943 I mean, you're always hearing congas going on in the park all the time. 181 00:09:37,009 --> 00:09:38,411 It's like a festival going on. 182 00:09:38,477 --> 00:09:39,879 [Gruen] The hip-hop developed, 183 00:09:39,946 --> 00:09:42,348 punk rock developed, disco developed 184 00:09:42,415 --> 00:09:43,816 all at the same time 185 00:09:43,883 --> 00:09:45,918 and different parts of the city coming together, 186 00:09:45,985 --> 00:09:47,553 bouncing off each other. 187 00:09:49,522 --> 00:09:53,526 Yoko had a lot of friends here who were artists, like Andy Warhol. 188 00:09:53,593 --> 00:09:57,563 [Connelly] Elton John and John had a long-standing relationship. 189 00:09:57,630 --> 00:09:59,966 He was tight with David Bowie as well. 190 00:10:00,032 --> 00:10:01,434 John loved New York, 191 00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:04,837 and New York, America, was freedom. 192 00:10:07,540 --> 00:10:10,142 [Gruen] People didn't run up the street and bother John and Yoko. 193 00:10:10,209 --> 00:10:11,911 They wouldn't bother them the way, you know, 194 00:10:11,978 --> 00:10:14,113 Beatlemania kind of fandom. 195 00:10:14,180 --> 00:10:15,514 But he was over the Beatles. 196 00:10:15,581 --> 00:10:17,350 In fact, one time one of the fans said to him, 197 00:10:17,416 --> 00:10:19,619 "Hey, John, when are you gonna get the Beatles back together?" 198 00:10:19,685 --> 00:10:21,053 And John just looked at him and said, 199 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,022 "When are you gonna go back to high school?" 200 00:10:23,089 --> 00:10:25,057 You know, he was very proud of being in the Beatles, 201 00:10:25,124 --> 00:10:27,293 but that was something that he had done, and it was past, 202 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,228 and like high school, you don't go back. 203 00:10:29,295 --> 00:10:31,197 You go forward. You do something else. 204 00:10:34,033 --> 00:10:35,735 [Epstein] He was happy to say hello. 205 00:10:35,801 --> 00:10:37,903 He loved his fans and loved New Yorkers. 206 00:10:39,205 --> 00:10:44,810 Some of us had a healthy relationship with him and his music and his celebrity. 207 00:10:44,877 --> 00:10:47,380 But there are others that didn't. 208 00:10:47,913 --> 00:10:50,583 There are others that felt like they owned him. 209 00:10:54,220 --> 00:10:56,188 [artillery fire] 210 00:10:58,891 --> 00:11:01,927 [protesters] Peace now! Peace now! Peace now! 211 00:11:02,628 --> 00:11:04,630 [angry shouting] 212 00:11:05,765 --> 00:11:07,667 [Lennon] Politics was in the air in those days. 213 00:11:07,733 --> 00:11:09,669 Come on, you know, you couldn't avoid it. 214 00:11:09,735 --> 00:11:11,504 [angry shouting] 215 00:11:11,570 --> 00:11:13,706 [Epstein] When John and Yoko arrived in New York, 216 00:11:13,773 --> 00:11:15,741 I think they were at their most political. 217 00:11:15,808 --> 00:11:17,209 [crowd shouting] 218 00:11:17,910 --> 00:11:19,912 [Lennon] Being artists, when we get into something, 219 00:11:19,979 --> 00:11:21,714 we get into it, you know what I mean? 220 00:11:21,781 --> 00:11:23,883 -We wanted to be right there. -[Yoko Ono] Just so involved. 221 00:11:23,949 --> 00:11:25,785 [Lennon] Down on the front lines, you know? 222 00:11:25,851 --> 00:11:29,722 But as, like we always said to everybody, with flowers, but still right down there. 223 00:11:29,789 --> 00:11:31,323 We want to go all the way with it. 224 00:11:31,390 --> 00:11:33,993 I read somewhere that the war movement was over. 225 00:11:34,060 --> 00:11:35,628 Ha-ha! 226 00:11:35,695 --> 00:11:38,831 [Gruen] He had a way of coming up with simple lines, 227 00:11:38,898 --> 00:11:40,900 like, "All we are saying is give peace a chance." 228 00:11:48,774 --> 00:11:50,643 [Gruen] Everybody thinks that, 229 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:53,579 but John gave people the words to express that. 230 00:11:55,514 --> 00:11:56,949 [Mintz] "Give Peace a Chance" 231 00:11:57,016 --> 00:12:00,252 was an anthem for those who believed 232 00:12:00,319 --> 00:12:03,856 in finding an alternative to war. 233 00:12:03,923 --> 00:12:06,459 The time has come for action. 234 00:12:06,525 --> 00:12:10,329 [Epstein] John was very vocal about his opposition to Richard Nixon. 235 00:12:10,796 --> 00:12:14,266 He made Nixon's enemies list. Nixon was hell-bent on deporting him. 236 00:12:14,333 --> 00:12:16,969 And it ruined his life for many years. 237 00:12:17,036 --> 00:12:18,704 Almost destroyed his career. 238 00:12:18,771 --> 00:12:23,008 He came out of it, miraculously, but it was a huge burden. 239 00:12:26,612 --> 00:12:30,783 All of these songs that he's writing, they're not the most melodic songs. 240 00:12:30,850 --> 00:12:32,585 They're protest songs. 241 00:12:32,651 --> 00:12:36,021 And the public is, at best, indifferent. 242 00:12:36,088 --> 00:12:37,623 The critics hate it. 243 00:12:37,690 --> 00:12:40,760 And I think John's really wounded by it. 244 00:12:40,826 --> 00:12:44,830 He finds himself in '72 having purged himself, 245 00:12:44,897 --> 00:12:47,299 in many ways, of his popularity. 246 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,302 [Gruen] It was a very depressing time for him, 247 00:12:50,369 --> 00:12:53,072 and he had difficulty dealing with that. 248 00:12:54,073 --> 00:12:57,610 [Epstein] John had really become reckless inside their marriage. 249 00:12:58,210 --> 00:13:00,079 Yoko sent John away. 250 00:13:00,146 --> 00:13:02,581 He went to L.A. for some 18 months. 251 00:13:02,648 --> 00:13:04,683 John would call it "the lost weekend." 252 00:13:04,750 --> 00:13:06,118 [Gruen] While John was in Los Angeles, 253 00:13:06,185 --> 00:13:08,721 it sounded like times were getting pretty wild out there. 254 00:13:08,788 --> 00:13:10,823 And we had had some pretty wild times in New York, 255 00:13:10,890 --> 00:13:13,759 and I knew that John could get out of hand when he drank a lot. 256 00:13:13,826 --> 00:13:16,929 It was Keith Moon, Harry, me, Ringo, all living together in the house, 257 00:13:16,996 --> 00:13:18,998 and we had some moments, folks. 258 00:13:19,064 --> 00:13:20,833 But it got a little near the knuckle. 259 00:13:20,900 --> 00:13:23,602 That's when I realized, there's something wrong here. 260 00:13:23,669 --> 00:13:25,838 You know, this is crazy, man. 261 00:13:25,905 --> 00:13:29,542 [Norman] He spent several months, really, for the first time in his life, 262 00:13:29,608 --> 00:13:33,412 being what he thought of as a sort of carefree bachelor, 263 00:13:33,479 --> 00:13:36,849 but actually hating it, really, and pleading with Yoko to have him back. 264 00:13:37,750 --> 00:13:40,219 So then he went back to Yoko. 265 00:13:46,892 --> 00:13:50,629 [Gruen] One day I drove up to Central Park with John and Yoko. 266 00:13:50,696 --> 00:13:52,765 It turned out that they were going to see 267 00:13:52,832 --> 00:13:55,401 the apartment at the Dakota for the first time. 268 00:13:56,735 --> 00:14:00,439 I think John liked the English gothic castle 269 00:14:00,506 --> 00:14:02,575 kind of feeling of the place. 270 00:14:05,010 --> 00:14:06,779 [Epstein] You go to the Dakota, 271 00:14:06,846 --> 00:14:08,814 I don't want to say you're going to an ivory tower, 272 00:14:08,881 --> 00:14:10,850 but you are kind of removing yourself. 273 00:14:10,916 --> 00:14:13,819 [Tony Palma] It was one of the most well-known buildings. 274 00:14:13,886 --> 00:14:17,456 It was occupied by all, very famous people. 275 00:14:18,390 --> 00:14:20,726 [Mintz] Lauren Bacall and Leonard Bernstein, 276 00:14:20,793 --> 00:14:23,529 and Roberta Flack and Judy Garland. 277 00:14:23,596 --> 00:14:28,234 The kind of place that people go to who want quiet. 278 00:14:29,168 --> 00:14:32,638 [Andrew Alpern] The Dakota is the dowager queen mother 279 00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:34,273 of apartment houses. 280 00:14:34,907 --> 00:14:40,212 It started out as the only large building on Central Park West. 281 00:14:41,013 --> 00:14:45,517 Gradually, the city grew up, but the Dakota remained. 282 00:14:45,584 --> 00:14:50,789 It remained the most distinctive building in the entire city. 283 00:14:51,790 --> 00:14:55,527 We all know that first impressions count, 284 00:14:55,594 --> 00:15:00,900 and first impression of the Dakota is its entrance. 285 00:15:01,467 --> 00:15:04,970 A two-story-high archway. 286 00:15:05,037 --> 00:15:10,075 And beneath it, a very elaborately designed 287 00:15:10,142 --> 00:15:12,745 wrought iron gateway. 288 00:15:13,078 --> 00:15:18,417 You don't pass the Dakota and think it's an ordinary building. 289 00:15:24,023 --> 00:15:26,959 [Gruen] Going through Times Square, I'd seen some guy selling 290 00:15:27,026 --> 00:15:29,395 the New York City T-shirts on the sidewalk. 291 00:15:29,461 --> 00:15:31,797 And I bought a few, and I bought one, and I gave it to John. 292 00:15:32,364 --> 00:15:34,099 It was the summer of '74 293 00:15:34,166 --> 00:15:36,769 when we were taking pictures on the roof of his apartment. 294 00:15:36,835 --> 00:15:38,404 And with the skyline all around us, I said, 295 00:15:38,470 --> 00:15:40,039 "You still have that New York T-shirt 296 00:15:40,105 --> 00:15:41,774 I gave you last year?" And he said, "Yeah." 297 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,809 And I said, "Well, why don't you put it on then?" 298 00:15:43,876 --> 00:15:45,678 We took a series of pictures. 299 00:15:45,744 --> 00:15:48,881 We never really expected that picture was going to be 300 00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:51,583 the one that he would be remembered by so well. 301 00:15:52,785 --> 00:15:57,022 [Palma] He used to go into a coffee shop around the corner on 71st Street. 302 00:15:57,089 --> 00:15:59,358 And the owner, he introduced him to me once. 303 00:15:59,425 --> 00:16:01,660 He says, "Oh, you know, this is John Lennon." 304 00:16:01,727 --> 00:16:04,496 He pretty much walked around the neighborhood and, you know, 305 00:16:04,563 --> 00:16:06,265 lived an open life there. 306 00:16:06,332 --> 00:16:10,135 And he wasn't concerned with security or anything. 307 00:16:10,936 --> 00:16:12,604 [Epstein] For the very first time 308 00:16:12,671 --> 00:16:15,441 since the very, very beginning of the Beatles, 309 00:16:15,507 --> 00:16:17,276 he doesn't have a record contract. 310 00:16:17,343 --> 00:16:18,577 He's free. 311 00:16:18,644 --> 00:16:21,280 And so, he retreats back into the Dakota, 312 00:16:21,347 --> 00:16:23,115 he retreats back into family life. 313 00:16:23,182 --> 00:16:24,450 He becomes a father. 314 00:16:25,117 --> 00:16:29,421 Sean was born on John's birthday, on October 9th, 1975. 315 00:16:30,122 --> 00:16:32,791 [Lennon] He was born on October the 9th, 316 00:16:32,858 --> 00:16:35,861 which I was, so we're almost like twins. 317 00:16:35,928 --> 00:16:40,132 If I'm feeling depressed, without him even seeing me, 318 00:16:40,199 --> 00:16:41,967 he sort of picks up on it. 319 00:16:42,034 --> 00:16:44,236 And he starts getting that way. 320 00:16:44,303 --> 00:16:47,639 So it's like I can no longer afford to have artistic depressions, 321 00:16:47,706 --> 00:16:49,274 which usually produced a miserable song, 322 00:16:49,341 --> 00:16:51,110 but it was something I could use, you know. 323 00:16:51,176 --> 00:16:54,880 Now I have sort of more reason to stay healthy and bright. 324 00:16:54,947 --> 00:16:56,882 I can no longer wallow in it. 325 00:16:57,816 --> 00:16:59,585 [Douglas] I ran into him. 326 00:16:59,651 --> 00:17:03,022 He said, "I'm giving Sean swimming lessons 327 00:17:03,088 --> 00:17:04,957 at the Y across the street." 328 00:17:05,024 --> 00:17:09,028 He said, "I've been the house husband," you know. 329 00:17:09,094 --> 00:17:11,363 "And I've never enjoyed life more." 330 00:17:11,430 --> 00:17:13,265 And the look of him when I saw him, it was-- 331 00:17:13,332 --> 00:17:14,767 He looked so different. 332 00:17:14,833 --> 00:17:18,904 He looked so calm and relaxed. 333 00:17:18,971 --> 00:17:23,175 As he would say, he found himself centered for the first time. 334 00:17:24,410 --> 00:17:26,879 [Alan Weiss] When I was a producer of Channel 7 Eyewitness News, 335 00:17:26,945 --> 00:17:28,814 we had a reporter named Joel Siegel. 336 00:17:28,881 --> 00:17:31,950 He went to cover the Big Apple Circus to do a story on it, 337 00:17:32,017 --> 00:17:34,086 and while he was there, he noticed that in the audience 338 00:17:34,153 --> 00:17:36,422 was John Lennon, just sitting amongst all the ordinary people. 339 00:17:36,488 --> 00:17:39,725 And Joel went up to him and said, "Could I ask you a few questions?" 340 00:17:39,792 --> 00:17:42,161 And very often celebrities say, "Nah, not now. 341 00:17:42,227 --> 00:17:44,229 I'm with my family. Speak to my agent." 342 00:17:44,296 --> 00:17:45,431 And John said, "Sure." 343 00:17:45,497 --> 00:17:47,232 How does he like to the circus, do you think? 344 00:17:47,299 --> 00:17:49,168 How do you like the circus? 345 00:17:49,234 --> 00:17:50,803 -I see. -He's so excited, 346 00:17:50,869 --> 00:17:52,337 he can't say a word, you know? 347 00:17:52,404 --> 00:17:54,973 He's got a little bored applauding, you know it? 348 00:17:55,407 --> 00:17:57,209 What's your favorite part of the circus? 349 00:17:57,276 --> 00:17:59,778 I like the clowns and the little dogs. 350 00:18:00,245 --> 00:18:03,182 Would you give it all up to run away and join the circus? 351 00:18:03,248 --> 00:18:04,817 I've already given it up. 352 00:18:04,883 --> 00:18:06,785 I haven't decided where to run, though. 353 00:18:06,852 --> 00:18:08,153 [Siegel laughs] 354 00:18:08,220 --> 00:18:10,956 [Gruen] After spending five years raising his son Sean, 355 00:18:11,023 --> 00:18:14,159 and basically being withdrawn from the business 356 00:18:14,226 --> 00:18:17,596 and withdrawn from the pressures of being in public life, 357 00:18:17,663 --> 00:18:20,265 John learned a lot about becoming an adult 358 00:18:20,332 --> 00:18:24,136 by learning that a sober life is actually a very rewarding life. 359 00:18:24,203 --> 00:18:27,473 He sings about it, right? "Watching the Wheels." 360 00:18:39,785 --> 00:18:43,455 [Gruen] That's what he learned in those five years, from 1975 to 1980, 361 00:18:43,522 --> 00:18:46,725 what it was like to have a relationship, what it was like to have a family. 362 00:18:52,965 --> 00:18:55,400 [Gruen] John was very comfortable being in New York. 363 00:18:55,467 --> 00:18:56,635 He liked New York. 364 00:18:57,903 --> 00:19:02,774 [Mintz] Bob Gruen was also not only their favorite personal photographer, 365 00:19:02,841 --> 00:19:04,610 he was a friend. 366 00:19:04,676 --> 00:19:06,378 [Gruen] It was an early spring day, 367 00:19:06,445 --> 00:19:09,047 and we got some really great pictures. 368 00:19:10,215 --> 00:19:13,986 There's a nice picture of them skipping up Central Park West. 369 00:19:14,052 --> 00:19:15,787 We went into Central Park. 370 00:19:15,854 --> 00:19:19,191 I remember John had this floppy hat on, like a hippie style, 371 00:19:19,258 --> 00:19:21,793 and I got pictures with him and Yoko tucked underneath it. 372 00:19:22,694 --> 00:19:27,599 They were passing some flowers, little yellow flowers, around the tree. 373 00:19:27,666 --> 00:19:31,069 And so, that was the kind of experience they could have in New York. 374 00:19:35,874 --> 00:19:38,277 [Lennon] I didn't really think about music at all. 375 00:19:38,343 --> 00:19:41,680 My guitar was sort of hung up behind the bed, literally. 376 00:19:42,114 --> 00:19:45,083 And I don't think I took it down for five years. 377 00:19:45,984 --> 00:19:50,522 [Laurie Kaye] In 1980, the urge to make music hit again. 378 00:19:51,056 --> 00:19:55,494 John basically said that, like, suddenly he was possessed. 379 00:19:55,561 --> 00:19:59,598 He started hearing songs in his head, and he was inspired. 380 00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:02,534 [Lennon] Oh, it came over me all of a sudden, love! 381 00:20:02,601 --> 00:20:03,969 I didn't know what came over me! 382 00:20:04,036 --> 00:20:05,237 [Yoko Ono laughs] 383 00:20:05,304 --> 00:20:08,440 I just suddenly, like, had... if you'll pardon the expression, 384 00:20:08,507 --> 00:20:10,609 diarrhea of creativity. 385 00:20:11,843 --> 00:20:15,581 [Mintz] Yoko encouraged him to travel to Bermuda 386 00:20:15,647 --> 00:20:17,716 to evoke his creative chops, 387 00:20:17,783 --> 00:20:20,686 and travel by boat to Bermuda. 388 00:20:25,457 --> 00:20:28,660 [Lennon] I sailed from Newport to Bermuda. Three thousand miles. 389 00:20:28,827 --> 00:20:31,897 Seven days at sea for my first ocean trip. 390 00:20:32,164 --> 00:20:35,000 And it was the most fantastic experience I ever had. 391 00:20:36,735 --> 00:20:38,503 [thunder rumbles] 392 00:20:39,471 --> 00:20:42,007 [Epstein] A day out, a terrible nor'easter hit. 393 00:20:44,843 --> 00:20:46,578 The crew was felled. 394 00:20:46,645 --> 00:20:49,348 One person after another, seasick. 395 00:20:50,349 --> 00:20:52,618 [Lennon] The captain says to me, "Do you want to take over the wheel?" 396 00:20:53,452 --> 00:20:57,689 I said, "Do you think I can?" He says, 'Well, you’ll have to. 397 00:20:57,889 --> 00:21:00,325 "There’s no one else who can do it." 398 00:21:00,993 --> 00:21:02,661 [Epstein] Which is an amazing image. 399 00:21:02,728 --> 00:21:06,431 I mean, they tie John to the boat so that he doesn't blow out to sea. 400 00:21:07,199 --> 00:21:09,167 [Lennon] A couple of waves had me on my knees. 401 00:21:09,234 --> 00:21:11,570 I was just hanging on with my hands on the wheel. 402 00:21:11,770 --> 00:21:17,542 Six hours, driving the boat, keeping it on course. 403 00:21:20,145 --> 00:21:21,847 I was having the time of my life! 404 00:21:21,913 --> 00:21:24,750 I was singing sea chanteys and shouting at the Gods! 405 00:21:24,883 --> 00:21:30,856 I felt like the Viking, you know... It won’t go away. You can’t change your mind. 406 00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:35,093 It’s like being on stage: once you’re on, there’s no getting off. 407 00:21:39,464 --> 00:21:40,832 [wind gusting] 408 00:21:40,899 --> 00:21:42,734 [seagulls squawking] 409 00:21:44,736 --> 00:21:47,406 [Epstein] When he got down to Bermuda, he started to write. 410 00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:50,876 [Mintz] He recorded demo tapes. 411 00:21:50,942 --> 00:21:52,144 [Lennon] Take one of the new one. 412 00:21:52,210 --> 00:21:53,578 [Mintz] Yoko, in the meantime, 413 00:21:53,645 --> 00:21:56,415 was in New York writing some of her own songs. 414 00:21:56,481 --> 00:21:58,250 They would speak by telephone. 415 00:21:58,317 --> 00:22:00,385 [Yoko Ono] Should I do it from the beginning? Okay. 416 00:22:00,452 --> 00:22:03,055 [Mintz] They would share their songs together. 417 00:22:03,121 --> 00:22:05,090 [Lennon] It inspired me completely. 418 00:22:05,157 --> 00:22:08,126 As soon as she would sing something to me or play the cassette down the phone, 419 00:22:08,193 --> 00:22:09,928 within 10 or 15 minutes, 420 00:22:09,995 --> 00:22:12,464 I would suddenly get this song coming to me. 421 00:22:13,198 --> 00:22:17,102 [Mintz] Songs just began to fall upon him from the sky. 422 00:22:17,169 --> 00:22:21,073 [Lennon] I suddenly had all this material after not really trying, 423 00:22:21,139 --> 00:22:23,608 but not not trying either, for five years. 424 00:22:24,509 --> 00:22:26,678 One, two, three, four. 425 00:22:26,745 --> 00:22:27,913 [rings] 426 00:22:27,979 --> 00:22:29,815 One day, I could hear the phone ringing. 427 00:22:31,083 --> 00:22:33,919 And I answered the phone, and the voice came on and said, 428 00:22:33,985 --> 00:22:37,989 "If you're interested in doing something really interesting and different, 429 00:22:38,056 --> 00:22:42,394 "be at the 33rd Street Pier where the seaplanes land tomorrow at noon." 430 00:22:42,461 --> 00:22:44,996 Click. At the time, I was thinking, 431 00:22:45,063 --> 00:22:49,034 I would really love to do something very interesting and mysterious. 432 00:22:49,101 --> 00:22:51,336 And I'll ride in a seaplane. Sounds like fun, too. 433 00:22:52,871 --> 00:22:57,476 The plane took off, flew over and down into where they had a mansion. 434 00:22:58,310 --> 00:23:01,246 So I go inside, and Yoko said to me, 435 00:23:01,313 --> 00:23:05,817 "What I tell you now is top secret, and you can't ever tell anyone. 436 00:23:08,453 --> 00:23:12,858 "John wants to make another record, and he wants you to produce it." 437 00:23:13,725 --> 00:23:15,293 She hands me an envelope. 438 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:17,028 It said, "For Jack's ears only." 439 00:23:17,095 --> 00:23:19,231 -And the phone rang. -[rings] 440 00:23:19,297 --> 00:23:22,200 It was John. He said, "Listen to the cassettes 441 00:23:22,267 --> 00:23:23,702 "that are in that envelope, 442 00:23:23,769 --> 00:23:26,505 "and if you think it's crap we won't even bother. 443 00:23:26,571 --> 00:23:30,876 "But if you think it's good material, let's go into the studio and do it." 444 00:23:32,978 --> 00:23:36,948 I went back and I listened, and I was amazed. 445 00:23:40,886 --> 00:23:43,789 Jack puts together a crack band that can really play. 446 00:23:43,855 --> 00:23:46,458 [Douglas] I made phone calls 447 00:23:46,525 --> 00:23:49,694 to great musicians Tony Levin, Hugh McCracken, 448 00:23:49,761 --> 00:23:52,464 George Small, Andy Newmark. 449 00:23:52,531 --> 00:23:54,666 [Newmark] I received that phone call. 450 00:23:54,733 --> 00:23:58,069 I happened to be on a concert tour in Europe. 451 00:23:58,136 --> 00:23:59,538 I was excited. 452 00:23:59,604 --> 00:24:02,174 I was told not to share it with anyone. 453 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,342 And as soon as I hung the telephone up, 454 00:24:04,409 --> 00:24:08,346 I went to sound check and I told everybody in the band. 455 00:24:08,413 --> 00:24:09,614 [laughs] 456 00:24:12,484 --> 00:24:16,655 [Douglas] I told John that we're going to bring in a wild card: Earl Slick. 457 00:24:16,721 --> 00:24:18,557 Earl played with David Bowie. 458 00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:21,393 I walked in the control room, 459 00:24:21,860 --> 00:24:24,863 and John gives me the, "Oh, it's good to see you again." 460 00:24:24,930 --> 00:24:29,367 We had worked together once with David Bowie on "Fame." 461 00:24:29,434 --> 00:24:31,403 And I didn't remember. 462 00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:34,306 So it was kind of a running joke through the recordings. 463 00:24:34,940 --> 00:24:36,975 In the middle of nowhere, over the mic he'd be going, 464 00:24:37,042 --> 00:24:38,844 "Do you remember me now?" 465 00:24:38,910 --> 00:24:41,146 [Douglas] The sessions were all fun. 466 00:24:41,213 --> 00:24:44,149 Earl didn't know any of the material. 467 00:24:44,216 --> 00:24:47,652 First day he came in, I put sheet music on Earl's stand, 468 00:24:47,719 --> 00:24:51,056 and Hugh McCracken went over and turned his sheet music upside down. 469 00:24:51,122 --> 00:24:55,660 It might as well have been space alphabet, I didn't know. 470 00:24:55,727 --> 00:24:57,729 [Douglas] Earl couldn't read sheet music, 471 00:24:57,796 --> 00:24:59,998 but he sat there and made believe he could. 472 00:25:00,065 --> 00:25:02,400 Pretty soon, everyone was in hysterics, 473 00:25:02,467 --> 00:25:05,437 because he was obviously, you know, bluffing. 474 00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:06,838 [laughs] 475 00:25:06,905 --> 00:25:09,241 So we were off to a good start with Earl. 476 00:25:09,307 --> 00:25:10,742 We jammed a lot. 477 00:25:10,809 --> 00:25:14,212 We played a lot of Beatles songs, in between takes sometimes. 478 00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:17,849 And if a Beatles song came on the radio, 479 00:25:17,916 --> 00:25:22,521 everything stopped and he would tell us the story 480 00:25:22,587 --> 00:25:26,091 of how that song was made and what happened that day. 481 00:25:28,627 --> 00:25:33,698 His absolute love for the Beatles was so obvious to us. 482 00:25:33,765 --> 00:25:37,135 In fact, he said he loved them, they were his brothers. 483 00:25:39,804 --> 00:25:42,807 We worked for a month with top security. 484 00:25:42,874 --> 00:25:46,411 The reason that John didn't want to let anyone know 485 00:25:46,478 --> 00:25:49,948 that this record was being made was because he was very insecure 486 00:25:50,015 --> 00:25:55,186 about whether he still had the stuff after the five years that had gone by. 487 00:25:56,054 --> 00:25:58,490 [Ken Womack] There had been so much pressure building up, 488 00:25:58,557 --> 00:26:00,592 by the late 1970's, 489 00:26:00,659 --> 00:26:03,094 what would happen if he came out and fell on his face? 490 00:26:03,161 --> 00:26:04,362 What if nobody listened? 491 00:26:04,429 --> 00:26:08,667 What if nobody were to be excited by John Lennon's great return again? 492 00:26:18,843 --> 00:26:20,679 [Epstein] He said, "This is a story. 493 00:26:20,745 --> 00:26:24,149 "It's a story about a man becoming 40 years old. 494 00:26:24,215 --> 00:26:26,184 "He's halfway through his life." 495 00:26:27,118 --> 00:26:29,721 [Lennon] I'm not trying to compete with my old self 496 00:26:29,788 --> 00:26:34,593 or compete with the young new wave kids or anything like that that are coming on. 497 00:26:34,659 --> 00:26:36,494 I'm not competing with anything. 498 00:26:36,561 --> 00:26:40,231 I'm trying to go back and enjoy it as I enjoyed it originally. 499 00:26:40,298 --> 00:26:42,067 And it's working. 500 00:26:46,671 --> 00:26:48,173 [Douglas] Things have changed. 501 00:26:48,239 --> 00:26:51,710 We're not adolescents playing rock 'n' roll music. 502 00:26:51,776 --> 00:26:55,313 The songs are about where we are now. 503 00:26:58,683 --> 00:27:01,019 [Lennon] You know, I mean, I went right back to my roots. 504 00:27:01,086 --> 00:27:04,122 It's not going back to being Beatle John in the '60s. 505 00:27:04,189 --> 00:27:06,024 It's being John Lennon. 506 00:27:10,128 --> 00:27:12,530 [Gruen] In the fall of 1980, 507 00:27:12,597 --> 00:27:14,966 while John and Yoko were still mixing the album, 508 00:27:15,033 --> 00:27:17,235 they released the single, "Starting Over." 509 00:27:17,302 --> 00:27:20,705 It's that dialogue between men and women 510 00:27:20,772 --> 00:27:24,609 that he and Yoko were so intent on expressing. 511 00:27:24,676 --> 00:27:28,380 And Scott Muni came on the radio and he played "Starting Over." 512 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,150 They were so happy hearing it on the radio they started dancing. 513 00:27:43,328 --> 00:27:47,599 [Dave Sholin] It's fascinating that you have an artist like John Lennon, 514 00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:49,901 who had so much success 515 00:27:49,968 --> 00:27:53,071 that would still get that rush of excitement 516 00:27:53,138 --> 00:27:55,440 of hearing their song come through 517 00:27:55,507 --> 00:27:57,409 and being played on radio. 518 00:27:57,742 --> 00:28:01,079 He didn't find happiness in front of a crowd of 10,000 people. 519 00:28:02,047 --> 00:28:04,983 He found it at home with Yoko and Sean. 520 00:28:05,617 --> 00:28:09,587 And that's the person who emerged in 1980. 521 00:28:10,121 --> 00:28:11,990 [Lennon] And let's face the reality. 522 00:28:12,057 --> 00:28:14,959 I've had the boyhood thing of being the Elvis 523 00:28:15,026 --> 00:28:17,462 and getting my own spot on the show. 524 00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:19,831 I want to be with my best friend. My best friend's my wife. 525 00:28:19,898 --> 00:28:21,900 Who could ask for anything more? 526 00:28:21,966 --> 00:28:27,038 [Epstein] It wasn't the same John Lennon that had walked away from it in '75. 527 00:28:27,772 --> 00:28:32,444 A totally different John Lennon went back into the studio. 528 00:28:36,481 --> 00:28:39,284 He said, "I don't care if they get it right now. 529 00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:41,953 "They'll get it one day. They'll understand." 530 00:28:43,655 --> 00:28:46,925 Few artists have ever been as influential as John Lennon. 531 00:28:57,669 --> 00:28:59,604 This new album, Double Fantasy, 532 00:28:59,671 --> 00:29:02,507 so how does it reflect John's attitude today? 533 00:29:03,041 --> 00:29:05,143 [Gruen] But they were very happy that the record was out 534 00:29:05,210 --> 00:29:07,278 and that people liked it, that people liked them. 535 00:29:07,345 --> 00:29:09,180 They really seemed to be starting over. 536 00:29:09,247 --> 00:29:11,316 [police whistles blowing] 537 00:29:16,287 --> 00:29:19,257 John and I sat on the floor for about two hours, 538 00:29:19,324 --> 00:29:21,192 and that's when he was telling me how happy he was 539 00:29:21,259 --> 00:29:24,763 about the record was going up the charts and was going to be popular. 540 00:29:24,829 --> 00:29:26,831 WLS, John Lennon. 541 00:29:27,732 --> 00:29:29,934 [Gruen] And then as the sun was coming up, 542 00:29:30,001 --> 00:29:33,204 we left the studio, probably 7:30, 8:00 in the morning, 543 00:29:33,271 --> 00:29:36,841 and there's some pictures of them standing on the sidewalk on 44th Street, 544 00:29:36,908 --> 00:29:39,010 which, oddly enough, was the same place 545 00:29:39,077 --> 00:29:41,045 that I had taken pictures the very first night 546 00:29:41,112 --> 00:29:44,382 I had met them at the recording studio, at the Record Plant, 547 00:29:44,449 --> 00:29:46,284 and I took some pictures there on the sidewalk. 548 00:29:46,351 --> 00:29:48,520 He said, "Okay, well, we'll see you later." 549 00:29:53,391 --> 00:29:57,829 [Connelly] December 8th, 1980, would be the day that changed everything. 550 00:29:57,896 --> 00:30:01,132 It's just unfathomable to think it's the last day of his life. 551 00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:05,970 [Womack] Part of the next phase of the print campaign 552 00:30:06,037 --> 00:30:08,373 is a Rolling Stone cover story. 553 00:30:09,908 --> 00:30:11,609 There's a lot of excitement in the air. 554 00:30:11,676 --> 00:30:13,845 Big photo shoot with Annie Leibowitz, 555 00:30:13,912 --> 00:30:17,448 arguably the leading female photographer in rock 'n' roll certainly, 556 00:30:17,515 --> 00:30:19,584 but perhaps in popular culture. 557 00:30:20,118 --> 00:30:24,722 [Epstein] That portrait, I think, is the essence of that relationship. 558 00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:27,926 I mean, John, naked, like almost like a newborn, 559 00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:31,129 wrapped around Yoko for security. 560 00:30:31,629 --> 00:30:35,133 The ballast that's holding them together. 561 00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:38,002 And it's a daring, 562 00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:40,805 dangerous portrait. 563 00:30:40,872 --> 00:30:42,574 And it's beautiful. 564 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,109 It's just gorgeous. 565 00:30:47,312 --> 00:30:49,247 [car horn honks] 566 00:30:49,314 --> 00:30:51,449 [Womack] So the interview team that arrived next, 567 00:30:51,516 --> 00:30:54,052 after Annie Leibowitz left, was RKO Radio. 568 00:30:54,118 --> 00:30:56,254 It's led by Dave Sholin. 569 00:30:59,657 --> 00:31:04,662 So we had arrived at the Dakota somewhere around noon. 570 00:31:04,729 --> 00:31:07,765 The visual of John opening up the door, 571 00:31:07,832 --> 00:31:11,069 literally jumping up, leaping into the room 572 00:31:11,135 --> 00:31:15,173 and extending his arms like, "Hey, folks, I'm here." 573 00:31:16,474 --> 00:31:17,942 [Lennon] I'm sorry I'm late. 574 00:31:18,009 --> 00:31:20,211 [Yoko Ono] Yes, we're on. We're on, dear. 575 00:31:20,278 --> 00:31:21,613 [Sholin] Hi. Hello. 576 00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:23,348 -[Kaye] Hi. -[Lennon] What is it? 577 00:31:23,414 --> 00:31:25,350 Oh, it's a microphone. Okay, let me get relaxed. 578 00:31:25,416 --> 00:31:26,851 [Yoko Ono] Just like this, you know? 579 00:31:26,918 --> 00:31:28,820 [Lennon] Hello, hello. Testing, testing. 580 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,556 Hello, Dave. How are you? 581 00:31:31,623 --> 00:31:34,058 [Kaye] He was just happy. 582 00:31:34,125 --> 00:31:35,593 Happy to be alive, 583 00:31:35,660 --> 00:31:39,697 and happy to think of the years that he had ahead of him 584 00:31:39,764 --> 00:31:43,568 with Sean, and making music, and with Yoko. 585 00:31:43,635 --> 00:31:45,670 And it was bubbling up from him. 586 00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:47,405 It was beautiful. 587 00:31:47,472 --> 00:31:50,174 [Lennon] And we feel like this is just the start, now, you see. 588 00:31:50,241 --> 00:31:53,411 Double Fantasy, like, this is our-- The first album. 589 00:31:53,478 --> 00:31:54,979 I know we worked together before. 590 00:31:55,046 --> 00:31:56,915 We even made albums together before. 591 00:31:56,981 --> 00:31:58,650 But we feel like this is the first album. 592 00:31:58,716 --> 00:32:01,920 I feel like we've-- Nothing happened before today. 593 00:32:01,986 --> 00:32:04,822 [Kaye] Right at the very beginning of the interview, 594 00:32:04,889 --> 00:32:08,660 we talked about what John did on a daily basis. 595 00:32:08,726 --> 00:32:11,462 Sean was foremost in his mind. 596 00:32:11,529 --> 00:32:14,098 [Lennon] My life revolves around Sean. 597 00:32:14,165 --> 00:32:16,067 And John was the one with Sean, 598 00:32:16,134 --> 00:32:18,970 and making sure that he ate the right food 599 00:32:19,037 --> 00:32:22,273 and didn't watch the wrong things on TV, 600 00:32:22,340 --> 00:32:24,108 and that sort of thing. 601 00:32:24,175 --> 00:32:27,178 So that was really pretty amazing to hear. 602 00:32:27,245 --> 00:32:29,380 Not what you would have expected. 603 00:32:29,447 --> 00:32:31,449 So you made this conscious decision 604 00:32:31,516 --> 00:32:34,719 to give yourself to your son, to the relationship. 605 00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:37,021 [Lennon] And to learn from him, too. 606 00:32:37,088 --> 00:32:39,357 And I learned a lot from the child, 607 00:32:39,424 --> 00:32:41,859 because they're not hypocrites and they're not phony. 608 00:32:41,926 --> 00:32:45,430 Then one day we sort of lying down on the bed together, 609 00:32:45,496 --> 00:32:47,365 and he just sat up and said, 610 00:32:47,432 --> 00:32:49,467 "You know what I want to be when I grow up?" 611 00:32:49,534 --> 00:32:51,035 I said, "No, what's that?" 612 00:32:51,102 --> 00:32:54,572 He looked me right in the eye and said, "Just a daddy." 613 00:32:54,639 --> 00:32:57,041 [Kaye] Sean telling him that when he grew up, 614 00:32:57,108 --> 00:32:59,711 he wanted to be "just a daddy," you know, 615 00:32:59,777 --> 00:33:01,846 which resonated with John. 616 00:33:01,913 --> 00:33:03,681 [Lennon] He caught me off guard there, 617 00:33:03,748 --> 00:33:06,084 because... "just a daddy." 618 00:33:06,150 --> 00:33:08,453 I said, "You mean you don't like it 619 00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:11,589 "that I'm working now, right, and going out a lot?" 620 00:33:11,856 --> 00:33:13,024 He says, "Right." 621 00:33:13,091 --> 00:33:15,994 Because I hadn't been in the studio for five years 622 00:33:16,060 --> 00:33:19,464 or whatever, so he's used to me being around all the time. 623 00:33:23,401 --> 00:33:27,705 [Sholin] We had spent three and half hours together at the Dakota, 624 00:33:27,772 --> 00:33:31,275 talking about everything from music to politics. 625 00:33:31,342 --> 00:33:33,344 [Lennon] I still believe in love, peace. 626 00:33:33,411 --> 00:33:36,781 I still believe in positive thinking when I can do it. 627 00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:40,318 I'm not always positive, but when I am, I try and project it. 628 00:33:40,885 --> 00:33:42,453 [Sholin] He had just turned 40. 629 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,490 As he said, this is like he's opening up a new chapter. 630 00:33:45,556 --> 00:33:47,392 That was the mood of the day, 631 00:33:47,458 --> 00:33:50,628 and he could not have been more upbeat. 632 00:33:50,695 --> 00:33:52,463 [Lennon] And we're going into an unknown future, 633 00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:53,998 but we're still all here. 634 00:33:54,065 --> 00:33:56,501 We still-- While there's life, there's hope. 635 00:33:56,567 --> 00:33:59,070 [Sholin] When I hear that quote play in my head, 636 00:33:59,137 --> 00:34:02,106 knowing what happened in the events of that day... 637 00:34:03,708 --> 00:34:05,443 it stops me in my tracks. 638 00:34:15,019 --> 00:34:17,622 [Connelly] On December 8, 1980, 639 00:34:17,688 --> 00:34:22,060 John Lennon is continuing to do press for his album Double Fantasy 640 00:34:22,126 --> 00:34:25,930 with this RKO radio interview that was considerably extensive. 641 00:34:27,465 --> 00:34:30,968 [Kaye] The end of the interview, after the tape machine was turned off, 642 00:34:31,035 --> 00:34:34,539 we still managed to talk for a while about things. 643 00:34:34,605 --> 00:34:37,909 And I had brought along a copy of Grapefruit, 644 00:34:37,975 --> 00:34:41,212 which was Yoko's book of poetry. 645 00:34:41,279 --> 00:34:44,715 And they were, "Oh, let us autograph that. Let us sign it for you." 646 00:34:44,782 --> 00:34:47,185 And, of course, I was thrilled. 647 00:34:47,251 --> 00:34:48,786 Thank you. It does mean a lot. 648 00:34:48,853 --> 00:34:50,188 [Lennon] Oh, it's a pleasure. 649 00:34:50,254 --> 00:34:52,957 You know, I'm a fan of people, too, you know? 650 00:34:53,024 --> 00:34:55,560 I like people to sign their books when they give them to me 651 00:34:55,626 --> 00:34:56,828 and all that. 652 00:34:58,963 --> 00:35:00,298 [Sholin] We packed up our gear 653 00:35:00,364 --> 00:35:03,167 and we went down to the front of the Dakota. 654 00:35:03,234 --> 00:35:07,805 [Kaye] And I remember stepping outside and being a little chilly. 655 00:35:07,872 --> 00:35:09,874 The sun was out, 656 00:35:09,941 --> 00:35:11,976 but it was still kind of cold. 657 00:35:12,777 --> 00:35:16,514 [Womack] Paul Goresh, who was an amateur photographer, taking photos. 658 00:35:17,081 --> 00:35:19,150 [car horn honks] 659 00:35:19,217 --> 00:35:22,487 And all of a sudden, guess who shows up? 660 00:35:23,788 --> 00:35:25,356 [Womack] John and Yoko walk up. 661 00:35:25,423 --> 00:35:27,191 They're waiting for their limo, 662 00:35:27,258 --> 00:35:28,726 and it's not there. 663 00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:30,528 And they're a little perturbed. 664 00:35:30,595 --> 00:35:35,066 The limo wasn't waiting for them to take them to the studio 665 00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:36,234 as it should have been. 666 00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:38,970 And so, John hung around the curbside for a while. 667 00:35:39,570 --> 00:35:41,873 [Womack] John walked out, he said, "Where are all my fans?" 668 00:35:41,939 --> 00:35:43,541 It was a little quiet. 669 00:35:43,608 --> 00:35:45,576 Well, there were a few there. 670 00:35:45,643 --> 00:35:47,945 [Kaye] There was one character, 671 00:35:48,012 --> 00:35:51,582 one of those Beatle fans standing on the sidewalk, 672 00:35:51,649 --> 00:35:54,819 who was bugging them for an autograph. 673 00:35:57,421 --> 00:36:00,758 [Norman] And this young man came up to John 674 00:36:00,825 --> 00:36:05,630 and thrust a copy of the Double Fantasy album at him 675 00:36:05,696 --> 00:36:07,198 without saying anything. 676 00:36:07,732 --> 00:36:09,734 And John said, "Oh, do you want me to sign this?" 677 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,670 John signs it, "John Lennon, 1980." 678 00:36:12,737 --> 00:36:14,972 Says, "Is this what you want?" 679 00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:17,041 Hands it back to him, and as he's signing it, 680 00:36:17,108 --> 00:36:19,810 Goresh takes this photo of them. 681 00:36:20,144 --> 00:36:21,279 [car horn honks] 682 00:36:21,379 --> 00:36:24,282 [Sholin] Their car hadn't arrived. Ours was there. 683 00:36:24,348 --> 00:36:28,986 [Womack] Dave and his crew offer to give John and Yoko a lift to the Record Plant. 684 00:36:29,587 --> 00:36:31,422 [Kaye] Then they got into the limo 685 00:36:31,489 --> 00:36:35,359 and went off to the studio with our team. 686 00:36:35,426 --> 00:36:38,362 And I stood there on the sidewalk 687 00:36:38,429 --> 00:36:40,865 just sort of savoring the moment 688 00:36:40,932 --> 00:36:43,935 and remembering the last three hours. 689 00:36:44,001 --> 00:36:47,538 And as I did, that same character 690 00:36:47,605 --> 00:36:50,841 kept bugging me and kept confronting me. 691 00:36:50,908 --> 00:36:53,211 "Did you talk to him? Did you get his autograph? 692 00:36:53,277 --> 00:36:55,012 "What'd he say? Did you talk to him?" 693 00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:57,181 He kept repeating it over and over. 694 00:36:57,248 --> 00:37:01,385 And I backed off, and he kept coming towards me. 695 00:37:01,452 --> 00:37:04,522 There was something wrong with this human being. 696 00:37:14,932 --> 00:37:16,901 [Douglas] He said, "Yoko's got this song. 697 00:37:16,968 --> 00:37:19,704 "She's got this poem called, 'Walking On Thin Ice,' 698 00:37:19,770 --> 00:37:21,706 "and I think it's a hit. 699 00:37:21,806 --> 00:37:24,141 "And I want to make something out of it." 700 00:37:25,409 --> 00:37:27,144 [Womack] They're excited about this new song. 701 00:37:27,211 --> 00:37:30,881 John, in fact, has been listening to it nonstop all weekend. 702 00:37:30,948 --> 00:37:33,517 He is in love with this tune 703 00:37:33,584 --> 00:37:35,653 and ready to get back to work at the studio. 704 00:37:36,187 --> 00:37:39,523 [Douglas] It was myself, John and Yoko. 705 00:37:39,590 --> 00:37:42,093 We were just having a blast making this track 706 00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:45,696 out of a loop which became, "Walking on Thin Ice." 707 00:37:45,763 --> 00:37:49,100 And then Yoko did this great poem that she'd-- 708 00:37:49,166 --> 00:37:52,637 Spoken word over it with this little song... 709 00:38:03,748 --> 00:38:07,485 [Douglas] He was sure that this song, "Walking on Thin Ice," 710 00:38:07,551 --> 00:38:10,655 was going to open up a new world for Yoko. 711 00:38:11,756 --> 00:38:15,126 Yoko said, "Do you want to go to the Stage Deli?" 712 00:38:15,192 --> 00:38:18,162 But John wanted to go back to the Dakota building 713 00:38:18,229 --> 00:38:21,532 to say good night to his son Sean before he went to sleep. 714 00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:24,035 [Douglas] We finished that night, 715 00:38:24,101 --> 00:38:26,771 and we said we were going to come in 716 00:38:26,837 --> 00:38:31,242 and master the single the next morning. 717 00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:32,977 Both John and Yoko were thrilled. 718 00:38:33,044 --> 00:38:35,413 They loved the way it came out. 719 00:38:35,479 --> 00:38:36,747 It was perfect. 720 00:38:36,814 --> 00:38:38,949 It couldn't be any better that night. 721 00:38:40,084 --> 00:38:41,552 The future looked great. 722 00:38:41,619 --> 00:38:45,656 And so, I walked them to the elevator and went home. 723 00:38:47,458 --> 00:38:49,994 And somebody was waiting for him there. 724 00:38:56,033 --> 00:38:57,902 [Norman] And when they returned, 725 00:38:57,968 --> 00:38:59,570 John got out of the car. 726 00:38:59,637 --> 00:39:00,805 [car door slams] 727 00:39:00,871 --> 00:39:04,108 [Womack] Yoko walks first, is ahead of him by a few paces. 728 00:39:04,642 --> 00:39:06,410 And John follows. 729 00:39:06,477 --> 00:39:11,382 And he glances at a fellow in the shadows briefly. 730 00:39:14,251 --> 00:39:17,188 And the young man came out of the shadows and called his name. 731 00:39:17,254 --> 00:39:21,625 And it's the fan from earlier, the one who wordlessly had the autograph 732 00:39:21,692 --> 00:39:24,061 signed for him on the cover of Double Fantasy. 733 00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:28,666 There's a woman in the Dakota whose apartment's above the courtyard, 734 00:39:28,733 --> 00:39:31,268 and she heard the sound of the gunshots wafting through... 735 00:39:31,335 --> 00:39:32,970 [gunshots] 736 00:39:34,538 --> 00:39:37,975 ...the seven, eight, ten stories of the Dakota courtyard, 737 00:39:38,042 --> 00:39:39,777 which amplified the sound. 738 00:39:42,246 --> 00:39:45,850 [Herb Frauenberger] We were just getting ready to leave the precinct to go out, 739 00:39:45,916 --> 00:39:48,953 and a radio run came over. 740 00:39:49,019 --> 00:39:51,655 [Palma] Shots fired at 1 West 72nd Street. 741 00:39:51,722 --> 00:39:53,524 [siren blares] 742 00:39:53,591 --> 00:39:56,594 So we immediately started to proceed towards there. 743 00:39:56,660 --> 00:40:00,030 [Frauenberger] I observed a male laying straight out 744 00:40:00,097 --> 00:40:01,932 with his arms outstretched, 745 00:40:01,999 --> 00:40:05,569 as if he was running and tripped or fell. 746 00:40:05,636 --> 00:40:06,937 [Palma] There was a woman. 747 00:40:07,004 --> 00:40:09,440 She kind of had him straddled, and she was in shock, 748 00:40:09,507 --> 00:40:10,975 and it was Yoko Ono. 749 00:40:19,650 --> 00:40:21,385 [Peter Cullen] My partner and I were parked 750 00:40:21,452 --> 00:40:24,321 at 72nd Street and Amsterdam Avenue, 751 00:40:24,388 --> 00:40:27,391 and a call came over of possible shots fired 752 00:40:27,458 --> 00:40:29,226 in the vicinity of the Dakota. 753 00:40:29,293 --> 00:40:31,128 We were the first two cops on the scene. 754 00:40:31,195 --> 00:40:35,065 [woman] They stepped out of the limousine and they went inside the gate there. 755 00:40:35,132 --> 00:40:37,802 Then, all of a sudden, I heard five, six shots and that was it. 756 00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:43,073 [Cullen] Going across the street, there was a fellow running towards me. 757 00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:46,143 And he said, "Officer, be careful. There's a guy shooting a gun in there." 758 00:40:46,210 --> 00:40:49,447 My whole life went in front of me in about four seconds. 759 00:40:49,513 --> 00:40:52,116 You know, we have to get in there and stop this thing. 760 00:40:52,183 --> 00:40:53,651 It was at about a few seconds later 761 00:40:53,717 --> 00:40:56,954 that Herb Frauenberger and Tony Palma arrived. 762 00:40:58,155 --> 00:41:00,357 Then we saw bullet holes in the glass. 763 00:41:01,125 --> 00:41:03,394 So now we realize it's-- This is real. 764 00:41:05,596 --> 00:41:07,298 [Cullen] Well, the doorman, José told me. 765 00:41:07,364 --> 00:41:08,866 He said, "Him, the guy in the overcoat." 766 00:41:08,933 --> 00:41:10,201 He could've been a banker. 767 00:41:10,267 --> 00:41:11,836 He'd probably be the last one 768 00:41:11,902 --> 00:41:14,104 you'd think is going to pull out a gun and shoot you. 769 00:41:14,171 --> 00:41:17,408 [Frauenberger] He had a copy of The Catcher in the Rye. 770 00:41:17,475 --> 00:41:18,943 Steve threw him against the wall. 771 00:41:19,009 --> 00:41:21,946 He was actually reading the book. He had dropped his gun. 772 00:41:25,382 --> 00:41:27,618 He said, "I'm sorry I ruined your night." 773 00:41:27,685 --> 00:41:29,119 I says, "You ruined my night?" 774 00:41:29,186 --> 00:41:31,822 I says, "Do you know you just ruined your whole life?" 775 00:41:31,889 --> 00:41:34,959 So then he started talking about a big man inside of me 776 00:41:35,025 --> 00:41:36,560 and a little man inside of me. 777 00:41:36,627 --> 00:41:39,497 "Tonight," he said, "the little man won the battle." 778 00:41:42,233 --> 00:41:46,303 [Palma] John Lennon was shot with a five-shot .38 caliber, 779 00:41:46,370 --> 00:41:47,705 snub-nosed revolver, 780 00:41:47,771 --> 00:41:51,008 kind of like an off-duty gun we used to carry. 781 00:41:51,075 --> 00:41:53,944 [reporter] Patrolman Palma, what happened when you responded to the call? 782 00:41:54,011 --> 00:41:56,080 He informed me that somebody had been shot at the scene, 783 00:41:56,146 --> 00:41:57,715 and I asked them where he was, 784 00:41:57,781 --> 00:41:59,717 and they directed me into the office. 785 00:41:59,783 --> 00:42:01,819 I ran into the office, 786 00:42:01,886 --> 00:42:06,423 and there was a man laying on the floor with his wife standing over him. 787 00:42:06,490 --> 00:42:07,958 Did you know who it was? 788 00:42:08,025 --> 00:42:09,793 Not at that time, no. 789 00:42:09,860 --> 00:42:11,295 He was laying facedown. 790 00:42:11,362 --> 00:42:14,064 And me and Herbie turned him over, 791 00:42:14,131 --> 00:42:16,567 and he was bleeding from the mouth. 792 00:42:16,634 --> 00:42:18,936 A lot of blood from the chest. 793 00:42:19,003 --> 00:42:21,105 [Frauenberger] At that point, he was still alive. 794 00:42:21,171 --> 00:42:25,109 And when I saw his face, I said, "I know this guy from someplace." 795 00:42:25,175 --> 00:42:26,510 But I couldn't put it together. 796 00:42:26,577 --> 00:42:28,178 And it was like, all of a sudden, 797 00:42:28,245 --> 00:42:31,549 a voice from behind me says, "That's John Lennon." 798 00:42:31,615 --> 00:42:33,584 And then, of course, I realized it. 799 00:42:33,651 --> 00:42:35,753 I said, "Holy smokes, this is John Lennon." 800 00:42:35,819 --> 00:42:38,455 So Tony said, "No, that's not John Lennon." 801 00:42:38,522 --> 00:42:41,892 I said-- I looked at Tony, I said, "Tony, this is John Lennon. Believe me." 802 00:42:46,063 --> 00:42:48,198 They put John in the back of a police car. 803 00:42:48,265 --> 00:42:50,568 You just can't stand by and wait for an ambulance. 804 00:42:50,634 --> 00:42:52,803 We picked him up, legs and arms, 805 00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:54,939 and we carried him probably 50 yards, maybe. 806 00:42:55,005 --> 00:42:56,340 [reporter] Where was he shot? 807 00:42:56,407 --> 00:42:59,810 Right going into the vestibule of the Dakota where the cars drive in. 808 00:42:59,877 --> 00:43:03,681 [Frauenberger] We put John in the back of the car facedown 809 00:43:03,747 --> 00:43:07,217 so that the blood coming out of his lungs wouldn't choke him. 810 00:43:07,284 --> 00:43:09,787 He didn't look very good. He got shot at least four times. 811 00:43:09,853 --> 00:43:11,021 [Frauenberger] I closed the door. 812 00:43:11,088 --> 00:43:13,090 I said, "Jimmy, Roosevelt as quick as possible. 813 00:43:13,157 --> 00:43:15,225 "As you can see, he's not in really good shape." 814 00:43:15,292 --> 00:43:17,494 And then Yoko tried to get in, 815 00:43:17,561 --> 00:43:20,764 but, you know, he was laid across the back seat. 816 00:43:20,831 --> 00:43:24,935 So I just grabbed her and I says, "Come on, I'll take you in our car." 817 00:43:26,837 --> 00:43:28,005 She was in shock. 818 00:43:28,072 --> 00:43:29,607 She kept saying, "Is he going to all right? 819 00:43:29,673 --> 00:43:31,141 "Is he going to be all right?" 820 00:43:31,208 --> 00:43:33,210 And I was driving, and Herbie was-- 821 00:43:33,277 --> 00:43:35,346 He was trying to calm her down. 822 00:43:35,412 --> 00:43:38,849 I'm thinking, "This is not going to be good." 823 00:43:38,916 --> 00:43:42,152 In 1980, I was the night assistant head nurse 824 00:43:42,219 --> 00:43:44,722 in the emergency room at Roosevelt Hospital. 825 00:43:44,788 --> 00:43:49,093 I worked the 4:00 to 12:00 shift back in the '70s to '80s. 826 00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:50,694 I answered the call, 827 00:43:50,761 --> 00:43:53,430 and I was only told we were getting a shooting, 828 00:43:53,497 --> 00:43:56,100 brought in by police car, 20th Precinct. 829 00:43:56,867 --> 00:44:00,804 [Frauenberger] If we would've got on the radio and said who it was, 830 00:44:00,871 --> 00:44:03,273 that word would have spread like wildfire. 831 00:44:03,340 --> 00:44:05,576 [Kammerer] It was a straight shooting. 832 00:44:05,643 --> 00:44:07,778 Young, healthy, white male. 833 00:44:07,845 --> 00:44:10,080 It was kind of routine, I guess. 834 00:44:10,147 --> 00:44:13,550 I paged the chief surgical resident. 835 00:44:13,617 --> 00:44:14,852 It was Dr. Halleran. 836 00:44:14,918 --> 00:44:17,287 So I go running down to the ER. And I said, "What's going on?" 837 00:44:17,354 --> 00:44:19,590 They said, "We have a gunshot wound to the chest coming in." 838 00:44:21,892 --> 00:44:26,163 [Weiss] So it was the night of December 8th, 1980. 839 00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:27,965 I was on a motorcycle. 840 00:44:28,032 --> 00:44:29,299 I was in Central Park. 841 00:44:29,366 --> 00:44:33,971 And I literally got slammed by a taxi. 842 00:44:34,038 --> 00:44:38,208 I ended up in an ambulance that took me to Roosevelt Hospital. 843 00:44:38,275 --> 00:44:41,745 So he was in the hallway, which was not unusual, 844 00:44:41,812 --> 00:44:44,214 because we always had people in the hallway, 845 00:44:44,281 --> 00:44:45,883 because it was a small ER. 846 00:44:45,949 --> 00:44:48,619 [Weiss] And I was lying in the hallway 847 00:44:48,686 --> 00:44:51,488 when, suddenly, the doors slammed open behind me 848 00:44:51,555 --> 00:44:53,223 and someone came running in screaming, 849 00:44:53,290 --> 00:44:55,359 "We have a gunshot. Gunshot in the chest. 850 00:44:55,426 --> 00:44:56,927 "It's hitting the door right now." 851 00:44:56,994 --> 00:44:59,163 And they bring this person 852 00:44:59,229 --> 00:45:02,833 literally into the room that I am lying outside of. 853 00:45:05,102 --> 00:45:09,006 [Sato] We took him to a room that we called our Minor OR. 854 00:45:09,073 --> 00:45:11,975 It was set up with all the equipment that we needed 855 00:45:12,042 --> 00:45:13,577 to take care of any shooting. 856 00:45:13,644 --> 00:45:15,412 So we had someone with four entrance wounds 857 00:45:15,479 --> 00:45:16,747 in his left chest, 858 00:45:16,814 --> 00:45:18,816 and three exit wounds at his back. 859 00:45:18,882 --> 00:45:22,019 And we just jumped on him. The nurses and the nurse anesthetist. 860 00:45:22,086 --> 00:45:24,254 Someone put a tube in his throat to breathe for him. 861 00:45:24,321 --> 00:45:26,824 Other people were with scissors cutting off his clothes. 862 00:45:28,025 --> 00:45:32,262 He was wearing his bomber jacket with a little fur collar. 863 00:45:32,830 --> 00:45:35,332 And he immediately opened the chest, 864 00:45:35,399 --> 00:45:39,837 grabbed the scalpel, made the cut, and he had his hands in his chest. 865 00:45:39,903 --> 00:45:41,071 It was just all blood. 866 00:45:41,138 --> 00:45:43,674 His thoracic cavity was just full of blood. 867 00:45:43,741 --> 00:45:44,842 His heart was flat, 868 00:45:44,908 --> 00:45:47,277 meaning that there was no blood running through it. 869 00:45:47,344 --> 00:45:50,214 And I am looking into the room. All his clothes had been taken off. 870 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,416 He's lying with his feet towards me. 871 00:45:52,716 --> 00:45:54,184 His chest is open. 872 00:45:54,251 --> 00:45:56,987 Medical staff is around him in a semicircle. 873 00:45:57,054 --> 00:46:00,457 They were literally trying to pump his heart manually 874 00:46:00,524 --> 00:46:02,392 to keep the blood flowing. 875 00:46:04,495 --> 00:46:06,730 And I begin to hear crying. 876 00:46:06,797 --> 00:46:11,602 And there is an Asian woman in a mink coat coming in, 877 00:46:11,668 --> 00:46:16,807 sobbing on the arms of a big leather-jacketed police officer. 878 00:46:16,874 --> 00:46:18,275 They didn't bring in a corpse. 879 00:46:18,342 --> 00:46:20,611 They brought in a mortally wounded person. 880 00:46:20,677 --> 00:46:22,980 He's either not going to make it, or he's... 881 00:46:23,046 --> 00:46:25,649 maybe he's got a small chance of making it. 882 00:46:29,787 --> 00:46:31,789 [police siren wailing] 883 00:46:38,796 --> 00:46:43,634 [Kaye] What happened the night of December 8, 1980, was... 884 00:46:46,336 --> 00:46:47,738 unimaginable. 885 00:46:47,805 --> 00:46:52,309 The emotion was so high in me, I just... 886 00:46:53,811 --> 00:46:57,347 like now, it's like reliving it all over again. 887 00:46:58,649 --> 00:47:00,250 [Kammerer] Everything with that night, 888 00:47:00,317 --> 00:47:03,253 I remember it crystal clear. 889 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,556 [Halleran] It was like a rugby scrum. 890 00:47:05,622 --> 00:47:06,924 This is going on simultaneously. 891 00:47:06,990 --> 00:47:08,625 And we get into a rhythm, pumping his heart. 892 00:47:08,692 --> 00:47:10,494 [Kammerer] It was, this is what we have to do. 893 00:47:10,561 --> 00:47:14,431 You work on everybody thinking they are going to survive, 894 00:47:14,498 --> 00:47:17,701 until the time comes where you know they can't. 895 00:47:20,304 --> 00:47:22,039 [Halleran] And around this time, someone said, 896 00:47:22,105 --> 00:47:23,707 "Hey, that looks like John Lennon." 897 00:47:24,608 --> 00:47:26,610 [heart monitor beeping] 898 00:47:27,511 --> 00:47:29,179 I think my heart stopped. 899 00:47:29,246 --> 00:47:31,515 Now it's not just opening up anyone's chest. 900 00:47:31,582 --> 00:47:33,717 You pause for a second, but you're still-- 901 00:47:33,784 --> 00:47:37,154 You're mid-resuscitation, so you don't-- You don't stop. 902 00:47:37,221 --> 00:47:39,890 Since he was so famous, I had to get security, 903 00:47:39,957 --> 00:47:41,558 had to block the entrances. 904 00:47:41,625 --> 00:47:45,128 I had to notify hospital administration. 905 00:47:50,334 --> 00:47:54,071 My wife came into the studio in tears 906 00:47:54,137 --> 00:47:58,408 and said, "You, you have to come up to Roosevelt Hospital. John's been shot." 907 00:47:58,475 --> 00:48:00,911 [reporter] Shortly after Lennon arrives, some friends arrived, 908 00:48:00,978 --> 00:48:03,146 including record producer Jack Douglas, 909 00:48:03,213 --> 00:48:05,883 who had been recording with Lennon earlier that evening. 910 00:48:05,949 --> 00:48:09,286 [Douglas] It just sounded impossible. 911 00:48:09,953 --> 00:48:12,189 -Please tell someone I'm here. -He is the closest to them. 912 00:48:12,256 --> 00:48:14,358 He just left me five minutes ago before he went home. 913 00:48:14,424 --> 00:48:15,425 [man] Hold on, Miss. 914 00:48:15,492 --> 00:48:17,227 This is his best friend. This is her best friend. 915 00:48:17,294 --> 00:48:18,362 She needs somebody right now. 916 00:48:19,263 --> 00:48:21,398 And I was in shock. 917 00:48:30,641 --> 00:48:32,276 End of story. 918 00:48:34,711 --> 00:48:38,448 [Weiss] I'm lying there, my eyes are closed, my head hurts. 919 00:48:38,515 --> 00:48:39,917 And these two officers come out. 920 00:48:39,983 --> 00:48:44,087 And one says to the other, "Can you believe it? John Lennon." 921 00:48:44,154 --> 00:48:46,156 I open my eyes and I look up. 922 00:48:46,223 --> 00:48:49,426 I said, "Excuse me, officer, what did you say?" 923 00:48:49,493 --> 00:48:54,197 And he kept pulling himself up the wall 924 00:48:54,264 --> 00:48:56,566 to look in the room. 925 00:48:56,633 --> 00:48:59,369 [Sato] And that's when one of the security guards told me, 926 00:48:59,436 --> 00:49:00,904 "Do you know who this is?" 927 00:49:00,971 --> 00:49:03,640 And I went, "Well, Mr. Weiss." 928 00:49:03,707 --> 00:49:07,144 And they went, "He's a reporter." 929 00:49:10,047 --> 00:49:13,016 [Weiss] In 1980, I was the program producer 930 00:49:13,083 --> 00:49:17,020 for Channel 7 Eyewitness News's 6:00 program. 931 00:49:17,087 --> 00:49:20,123 I have to have that piece, all right? 932 00:49:20,190 --> 00:49:22,626 As a news producer, you're responsible for, 933 00:49:22,693 --> 00:49:25,062 you know, deciding what stories go on the air 934 00:49:25,128 --> 00:49:27,097 and making sure that your stories are accurate. 935 00:49:27,164 --> 00:49:31,368 I went, "Oh, [bleep], get him out of this hallway fast." 936 00:49:31,435 --> 00:49:33,637 How did he end up in the ER that night, 937 00:49:33,704 --> 00:49:35,639 when any other night would have just been a boring, 938 00:49:35,706 --> 00:49:37,741 you know, several-hour wait in an ER? 939 00:49:40,410 --> 00:49:44,448 [Weiss] I really wasn't sure that I heard "John Lennon." 940 00:49:44,514 --> 00:49:45,716 And who would believe it anyway? 941 00:49:45,782 --> 00:49:47,985 Who would think that lying in the hospital 942 00:49:48,051 --> 00:49:51,054 that a person brought in with, quote, "gunshots to the chest," 943 00:49:51,121 --> 00:49:53,523 could possibly be a member 944 00:49:53,590 --> 00:49:56,827 of the most famous musical group in history? 945 00:49:56,893 --> 00:49:59,696 [reporter] He was stalked, followed inside the archway, 946 00:49:59,763 --> 00:50:03,133 and shot in a small vestibule by a lone gunman. 947 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,702 Gave him his rights, we recovered the weapon, 948 00:50:05,769 --> 00:50:07,938 got the names of the witnesses, 949 00:50:08,005 --> 00:50:11,108 and made sure we had all our ducks in a row. 950 00:50:11,174 --> 00:50:13,343 [reporter] Was he disheveled? What did he look like? 951 00:50:13,410 --> 00:50:16,413 I said before, I believe he was calm. 952 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,150 Inside the precinct, there were a zillion detectives. 953 00:50:20,217 --> 00:50:24,121 He was there on Saturday asking about Mr. Lennon. 954 00:50:24,187 --> 00:50:27,691 He was there on Sunday asking about Mr. Lennon. 955 00:50:27,758 --> 00:50:29,393 And he was there again this afternoon. 956 00:50:29,459 --> 00:50:31,028 [Cullen] He was a fan, obviously. 957 00:50:31,094 --> 00:50:33,530 And I couldn't figure out what would possess him to shoot. 958 00:50:33,597 --> 00:50:36,800 What drives people to put five slugs in a guy? 959 00:50:36,867 --> 00:50:38,502 I don't know. I can't answer that. 960 00:50:41,004 --> 00:50:45,308 [Kaye] Why didn't I know enough to say to the security guard, 961 00:50:45,375 --> 00:50:47,377 "You shouldn't let him stay here"? 962 00:50:47,444 --> 00:50:50,447 To this day, I can't get over that. 963 00:50:50,514 --> 00:50:52,049 [Loder] You know, there's always somebody 964 00:50:52,115 --> 00:50:53,850 that wants to take into themselves 965 00:50:53,917 --> 00:50:56,319 that fame and that creativity that you have, 966 00:50:56,386 --> 00:50:57,888 and there's no other way they can do it. 967 00:50:57,954 --> 00:51:00,891 And the closest they can come is by consuming you. 968 00:51:00,957 --> 00:51:02,626 [indistinct chattering] 969 00:51:02,692 --> 00:51:04,661 [Weiss] So I know it sounds a little bloodthirsty. 970 00:51:04,728 --> 00:51:08,265 No, I don't think any professional as a journalist 971 00:51:08,331 --> 00:51:13,437 would not feel that they had not done the job to the best of their ability 972 00:51:13,503 --> 00:51:16,973 if they didn't do everything they possibly could to get the word out. 973 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,910 [Sato] His reporter instincts went on high. 974 00:51:19,976 --> 00:51:23,280 He was a reporter, and that's what reporters do. 975 00:51:23,346 --> 00:51:26,383 But he was the plague of my existence that night. 976 00:51:26,450 --> 00:51:28,251 [Weiss] So I got up, 977 00:51:28,318 --> 00:51:31,822 and I was able to hop on one foot. 978 00:51:32,289 --> 00:51:36,860 I get all the way down the hallway, and this voice says, "Where you going?" 979 00:51:36,927 --> 00:51:40,831 And I said, "Could you please just let me make a phone call?" 980 00:51:40,897 --> 00:51:44,534 Hands me the phone, and I call Channel 7 Eyewitness News. 981 00:51:44,601 --> 00:51:48,572 And I said, "I know I banged my head, but listen to me. 982 00:51:48,638 --> 00:51:52,142 "I believe John Lennon may have been shot." 983 00:51:53,143 --> 00:51:55,312 And the assignment editor says to me, 984 00:51:55,378 --> 00:52:00,484 "I heard a call for an ambulance to 72nd and Central Park West. 985 00:52:00,550 --> 00:52:03,019 "That's where the Dakota is." I said, "That's it. 986 00:52:03,086 --> 00:52:04,754 "That's the third piece of the puzzle." 987 00:52:04,821 --> 00:52:06,690 I've heard the name John Lennon. 988 00:52:06,756 --> 00:52:10,327 I've seen an Asian woman who now I'm pretty sure is Yoko Ono. 989 00:52:10,393 --> 00:52:12,629 And you're telling me there was a call for an ambulance 990 00:52:12,696 --> 00:52:14,264 at 72nd Street and Central Park West? 991 00:52:14,331 --> 00:52:15,932 Get over here as soon as possible. 992 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,402 [Halleran] We worked on him for about 45 minutes. 993 00:52:19,469 --> 00:52:21,605 Pulse, blood pressure. He didn't wake up. 994 00:52:21,671 --> 00:52:24,174 And there was just a pall in the room. 995 00:52:24,241 --> 00:52:26,309 Everyone finally was like, 996 00:52:26,376 --> 00:52:29,179 "Oh, okay, this is John Lennon. This is it." 997 00:52:29,246 --> 00:52:32,482 But at some point, we're all in agreement this is done. 998 00:52:32,549 --> 00:52:34,518 [heart monitor beeping] 999 00:52:40,056 --> 00:52:43,293 I consider that my work won't be finished until I am dead and buried 1000 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,961 and I hope that's a long, long time. 1001 00:52:45,462 --> 00:52:47,898 [Kaye] When John talked about death 1002 00:52:47,964 --> 00:52:52,936 or wishing that he had many, many, many years left to go, 1003 00:52:53,003 --> 00:52:54,905 being hopeful about that, 1004 00:52:54,971 --> 00:52:58,775 that's the most poignant part of the interview right there, 1005 00:52:58,842 --> 00:53:01,678 given the outcome of that day. 1006 00:53:02,012 --> 00:53:03,914 While there's life, there's hope. 1007 00:53:06,917 --> 00:53:10,053 [Weiss] I hear a shrill woman's voice scream, 1008 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,656 and there is Yoko Ono 1009 00:53:12,722 --> 00:53:17,994 sobbing on the arms of record producer David Geffen. 1010 00:53:18,628 --> 00:53:20,096 I get to the phone 1011 00:53:20,530 --> 00:53:22,132 and I said, 1012 00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:25,902 "I've got confirmation. John Lennon is dead." 1013 00:53:29,372 --> 00:53:30,840 [Palma] I mean, the shot went out. 1014 00:53:30,907 --> 00:53:32,842 It was heard around the world within an hour. 1015 00:53:32,909 --> 00:53:37,581 [Cosell] An unspeakable tragedy confirmed to us by ABC News. 1016 00:53:38,582 --> 00:53:40,450 My mouth hung open. 1017 00:53:40,517 --> 00:53:41,685 My jaw dropped. 1018 00:53:50,327 --> 00:53:51,895 [Weiss] It's amazing what adrenaline is. 1019 00:53:51,962 --> 00:53:56,333 I feel no pain except for the pounding in my head of, 1020 00:53:56,399 --> 00:53:59,236 I cannot believe that this is actually happening. 1021 00:53:59,302 --> 00:54:03,940 So, I called local Channel 7 Eyewitness News. 1022 00:54:04,007 --> 00:54:07,277 The assignment editor called ABC network 1023 00:54:07,344 --> 00:54:11,014 and reported that the producer of the 6:00 news 1024 00:54:11,081 --> 00:54:12,716 is in Roosevelt Hospital, 1025 00:54:12,782 --> 00:54:16,820 and has gotten confirmation that John Lennon is dead. 1026 00:54:18,521 --> 00:54:21,925 Monday Night Football was on. I believe it was in overtime. 1027 00:54:27,530 --> 00:54:29,399 [Womack] Here's Howard Cosell realizing 1028 00:54:29,466 --> 00:54:33,203 that a story has just emerged that's bigger than this football game. 1029 00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:35,805 And what are the news ethics about doing it? 1030 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:43,179 [Cosell] I can't see this game situation allowing for that news flash, can you? 1031 00:54:43,713 --> 00:54:45,148 [Gifford] Absolutely. I can see it. 1032 00:54:45,215 --> 00:54:47,550 -[Cosell] You can? -You betcha. 1033 00:54:47,617 --> 00:54:49,452 If we know it, we’ve got to do it. 1034 00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:53,490 [Weis] Howard Cosell did not want to report that, 1035 00:54:53,556 --> 00:54:56,393 but the head of ABC Network News had said 1036 00:54:56,459 --> 00:54:58,662 this is information that must be put on the air. 1037 00:54:58,728 --> 00:55:01,298 [Cosell] John Lennon, outside of his apartment building 1038 00:55:01,364 --> 00:55:03,433 on the west side of New York City, 1039 00:55:03,500 --> 00:55:06,336 the most famous perhaps all of the Beatles, 1040 00:55:06,403 --> 00:55:10,840 shot twice in the back, rushed to Roosevelt Hospital. 1041 00:55:10,907 --> 00:55:13,209 Dead on arrival. 1042 00:55:14,144 --> 00:55:18,348 A kind of gasp was heard across the nation when that happened. 1043 00:55:20,750 --> 00:55:24,654 [Cosell] Hard to go back to the game after that news flash. 1044 00:55:24,721 --> 00:55:27,691 Think about all the other musicians or celebrities 1045 00:55:27,757 --> 00:55:29,392 that you know who died. 1046 00:55:29,459 --> 00:55:34,364 Overdoses, suicide, accidents. 1047 00:55:34,831 --> 00:55:40,303 To be shot and murdered by a fan outside your house, 1048 00:55:40,370 --> 00:55:43,006 coming home to put your son to bed. 1049 00:55:43,073 --> 00:55:44,774 I mean, it's a pretty... 1050 00:55:45,775 --> 00:55:48,678 unsettling story. 1051 00:55:49,612 --> 00:55:52,515 [Gruen] I was in my darkroom developing pictures, 1052 00:55:52,582 --> 00:55:56,086 and a friend of mine called me, actually, from California. 1053 00:55:56,152 --> 00:55:59,723 And he said, "I just heard on the radio that John Lennon is dead." 1054 00:56:00,223 --> 00:56:01,458 And I remember hearing that 1055 00:56:01,558 --> 00:56:03,993 was the most permanent thing I ever heard in my life. 1056 00:56:05,895 --> 00:56:08,798 [Kaye] I immediately went to Roosevelt Hospital, 1057 00:56:08,865 --> 00:56:10,300 and when I got there, 1058 00:56:10,367 --> 00:56:13,436 I saw through the glass doors Yoko. 1059 00:56:13,503 --> 00:56:18,074 And I realized she was holding somebody 1060 00:56:18,141 --> 00:56:20,677 and squeezing them so tight and in tears. 1061 00:56:20,744 --> 00:56:24,481 It was something I could feel, his passing. 1062 00:56:26,783 --> 00:56:28,351 [David Geffen] You know, all of a sudden, 1063 00:56:28,418 --> 00:56:31,388 everything can change with the act of a maniac, you know. 1064 00:56:31,454 --> 00:56:36,259 John Lennon was alive, happy, excited about his record, 1065 00:56:36,326 --> 00:56:38,661 and a minute later he was dead. 1066 00:56:39,396 --> 00:56:43,166 I was with Yoko at the hospital, and I took her home that night. 1067 00:56:43,233 --> 00:56:46,169 [Frauenberger] There is a photograph of myself 1068 00:56:46,236 --> 00:56:49,773 and Yoko and David Geffen exiting the hospital. 1069 00:56:49,839 --> 00:56:52,609 And she was on her way back to the Dakota. 1070 00:56:52,675 --> 00:56:55,078 The front of the place was crawling with news people, 1071 00:56:55,145 --> 00:56:56,780 and a horror show. 1072 00:56:58,915 --> 00:57:02,051 There'd be crowds just waiting to touch me, because I-- 1073 00:57:02,118 --> 00:57:03,420 Because he died in my arms. 1074 00:57:03,787 --> 00:57:06,289 [Sato] I needed a police escort to get out. 1075 00:57:06,356 --> 00:57:08,024 And I walked out and, unfortunately, 1076 00:57:08,091 --> 00:57:10,593 my pants were covered in blood, 1077 00:57:10,660 --> 00:57:12,228 the bottom of my white pants. 1078 00:57:12,295 --> 00:57:15,598 And I had some idiot in the street yell 1079 00:57:15,665 --> 00:57:18,568 that he would offer me $500 for my pants. 1080 00:57:19,269 --> 00:57:23,072 [reporter] There were extensive resuscitation efforts that were made, 1081 00:57:23,139 --> 00:57:24,808 but none of them did any good. 1082 00:57:24,874 --> 00:57:26,643 There were transfusions that were attempted. 1083 00:57:26,709 --> 00:57:28,178 None of them were able to save his life. 1084 00:57:28,244 --> 00:57:30,046 There's no way to change that. 1085 00:57:30,113 --> 00:57:31,448 There's no way to fix that. 1086 00:57:31,514 --> 00:57:33,149 There's no way to make it better. 1087 00:57:33,216 --> 00:57:36,186 And I remember just kind of sinking down to the floor. 1088 00:57:36,252 --> 00:57:38,721 And then the phone started ringing some more. 1089 00:57:39,489 --> 00:57:41,758 And then I realized that the whole world was watching. 1090 00:57:41,825 --> 00:57:44,260 Late this evening, one of the world's great entertainers 1091 00:57:44,327 --> 00:57:47,030 and musicians, John Lennon of the Beatles, 1092 00:57:47,096 --> 00:57:49,599 was shot outside his New York home. 1093 00:57:49,666 --> 00:57:53,903 I thought, "How could something like that happen in my city?" 1094 00:57:53,970 --> 00:57:55,638 You know, I was... 1095 00:57:56,606 --> 00:57:58,341 I was heartbroken. 1096 00:57:58,408 --> 00:57:59,843 Nobody knew what to make of it. 1097 00:57:59,909 --> 00:58:02,745 Like, people having no idea what to think. 1098 00:58:02,812 --> 00:58:05,715 And then immediately wanting to turn to... 1099 00:58:07,250 --> 00:58:10,753 of all things, turn to John Lennon for solace. 1100 00:58:11,387 --> 00:58:13,623 [Connelly] Fans of every description 1101 00:58:13,690 --> 00:58:17,494 converged upon 72nd and Central Park West. 1102 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,663 [Mitchell] And I remember being touched by all that. 1103 00:58:21,865 --> 00:58:24,534 My primary role at that time 1104 00:58:24,601 --> 00:58:27,203 was to be present for Yoko. 1105 00:58:28,972 --> 00:58:31,274 She was inconsolable. 1106 00:58:32,775 --> 00:58:35,378 We both heard the sounds 1107 00:58:35,445 --> 00:58:39,482 of the children singing from the street. 1108 00:58:46,456 --> 00:58:48,091 [Ted Koppel] The vigil outside the building 1109 00:58:48,157 --> 00:58:50,493 where John Lennon and Yoko Ono made their home 1110 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,295 lasted into the night. 1111 00:58:52,362 --> 00:58:53,963 And she was inside, broken. 1112 00:58:54,030 --> 00:58:56,399 And having to listen to these people 1113 00:58:56,466 --> 00:58:59,369 outside her apartment singing John's music. 1114 00:58:59,435 --> 00:59:00,803 Couldn't escape it. 1115 00:59:00,870 --> 00:59:04,340 [Mintz] I got a call from Roosevelt Hospital. 1116 00:59:04,407 --> 00:59:08,978 They were about to return John's belongings. 1117 00:59:09,846 --> 00:59:13,283 His bloodied glasses... 1118 00:59:14,817 --> 00:59:16,386 and his wallet. 1119 00:59:17,053 --> 00:59:19,589 This was what was left of John... 1120 00:59:22,191 --> 00:59:23,993 in this brown paper bag. 1121 00:59:24,928 --> 00:59:26,062 Oh, gosh. 1122 00:59:27,230 --> 00:59:29,832 Why would anyone want to do this to John Lennon? 1123 00:59:29,899 --> 00:59:31,167 [Palma] I said to him, 1124 00:59:31,234 --> 00:59:34,103 "Do you realize what you have done here?" 1125 00:59:34,170 --> 00:59:36,839 And he looked at me and he said, 1126 00:59:36,906 --> 00:59:38,341 "I killed myself." 1127 00:59:38,408 --> 00:59:40,810 He said, "I'm John Lennon." 1128 00:59:40,877 --> 00:59:42,946 I thought he was crazy. 1129 00:59:49,185 --> 00:59:52,221 [reporter 1] There is a new sadness around the world this morning. 1130 00:59:52,288 --> 00:59:54,791 [reporter 2] John Lennon, the former Beatle, is dead this morning. 1131 00:59:54,857 --> 00:59:57,126 [reporter 1] Lennon, the former Beatle, was murdered in front... 1132 00:59:57,193 --> 00:59:59,095 [reporter 2] At least five shots were fired... 1133 00:59:59,162 --> 01:00:01,230 [reporter 3] The former Beatle made it up a set of stairs, 1134 01:00:01,297 --> 01:00:02,899 said, "I'm shot," then was carried... 1135 01:00:03,533 --> 01:00:06,903 [reporter 4] John Lennon dead here at Roosevelt Hospital in New York. 1136 01:00:11,140 --> 01:00:14,444 [Gruen] I once heard somebody say that the most obscene four-letter word 1137 01:00:14,510 --> 01:00:16,746 in the English language is "dead." 1138 01:00:17,981 --> 01:00:19,682 And that's the way I felt. 1139 01:00:19,749 --> 01:00:20,950 [camera shutters click] 1140 01:00:24,153 --> 01:00:26,689 [Halleran] This is more than a president or a pope. 1141 01:00:27,056 --> 01:00:30,093 This is John Lennon. This is really a cultural icon. 1142 01:00:31,427 --> 01:00:33,796 [reporter] People conducted an all-night vigil outside the Dakota, 1143 01:00:33,863 --> 01:00:35,431 those who loved John Lennon and... 1144 01:00:35,498 --> 01:00:36,766 [Norman] It's become a moment, 1145 01:00:36,833 --> 01:00:40,703 like the moment of the assassination of John F. Kennedy, 1146 01:00:40,770 --> 01:00:45,241 which everyone can remember where they were and what they were doing. 1147 01:00:46,943 --> 01:00:49,846 And it cut across all boundaries and all cultures. 1148 01:00:51,381 --> 01:00:54,784 [Loder] It's not often that someone means so much to so many people. 1149 01:00:56,285 --> 01:00:58,621 People had grown up with him and with the Beatles. 1150 01:00:58,688 --> 01:01:00,890 The effect was worldwide. 1151 01:01:00,957 --> 01:01:02,558 ["World News Tonight" theme playing] 1152 01:01:02,625 --> 01:01:05,428 [Koppel] A global generation that danced and sang 1153 01:01:05,495 --> 01:01:08,331 to the music of John Lennon mourned his death today. 1154 01:01:08,398 --> 01:01:11,601 He was a genius, he was a humorist, he had a lot to give. 1155 01:01:11,668 --> 01:01:13,503 I've always liked John because he was a rebel. 1156 01:01:15,772 --> 01:01:17,907 He was one of the originals of this century. 1157 01:01:17,974 --> 01:01:19,042 No question about it. 1158 01:01:19,108 --> 01:01:20,643 [reporter] The loss of Lennon, some say, 1159 01:01:20,710 --> 01:01:22,879 is like the loss of a member of the family. 1160 01:01:22,945 --> 01:01:25,381 [Gruen] I don't think John had any idea 1161 01:01:25,448 --> 01:01:28,384 how important he was to so many people. 1162 01:01:28,451 --> 01:01:31,487 [reporter] All over the world today, newspapers and radio and television 1163 01:01:31,554 --> 01:01:34,824 gave special sustained coverage to Lennon's death. 1164 01:01:34,891 --> 01:01:38,261 [Newmark] And they were playing all the songs off Double Fantasy 1165 01:01:38,327 --> 01:01:39,729 around the clock. 1166 01:01:39,796 --> 01:01:41,864 That's all you heard was his music. 1167 01:01:41,931 --> 01:01:44,967 [reporter 1] From Madrid to Moscow, the murder was condemned. 1168 01:01:45,034 --> 01:01:47,804 [reporter 2] Polish television tonight reported the details of his murder, 1169 01:01:47,870 --> 01:01:49,672 and so did others in European countries. 1170 01:01:49,739 --> 01:01:51,941 John Lennon, after a five-year absence, 1171 01:01:52,008 --> 01:01:53,910 had finally released a record album. 1172 01:01:53,976 --> 01:01:56,312 [reporter 3] Today, here in Liverpool and all over Europe, 1173 01:01:56,379 --> 01:01:58,247 Lennon's new record is selling out. 1174 01:01:58,314 --> 01:02:00,283 [Womack] In the wake of John's murder, 1175 01:02:00,349 --> 01:02:03,052 the album just shoots to the top of the chart. 1176 01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:04,954 They have three hit singles. 1177 01:02:05,021 --> 01:02:09,726 In death, he really had fully achieved the comeback 1178 01:02:09,792 --> 01:02:11,160 that was in his heart. 1179 01:02:11,227 --> 01:02:13,329 [Loder] It wasn't just in the music world. 1180 01:02:13,396 --> 01:02:14,731 He was there in everything, 1181 01:02:14,797 --> 01:02:17,100 and he was always a part of people's lives. 1182 01:02:17,166 --> 01:02:19,035 And now he never would be again. 1183 01:02:19,102 --> 01:02:21,704 [man, on radio] It's just unbelievable how this could happen. 1184 01:02:24,607 --> 01:02:29,812 [Mintz] Julian, who was a teenager, flew in from England. 1185 01:02:31,881 --> 01:02:34,550 He arrived alone. 1186 01:02:35,184 --> 01:02:38,087 And one of the things that Yoko asked of me 1187 01:02:38,154 --> 01:02:42,091 was to get Julian outside of the building, 1188 01:02:42,158 --> 01:02:44,827 away from what was happening, 1189 01:02:44,894 --> 01:02:48,131 to kind of protect him from public scrutiny 1190 01:02:48,197 --> 01:02:50,767 and media attention. 1191 01:02:50,833 --> 01:02:53,836 The truth is, none of us knew how to handle 1192 01:02:53,903 --> 01:02:58,608 the enormity of what happened. 1193 01:03:06,015 --> 01:03:09,085 [reporter] New York City Police have now arrested and charged a suspect 1194 01:03:09,152 --> 01:03:11,087 in last night's murder of John Lennon. 1195 01:03:11,154 --> 01:03:13,523 Prosecutors described the killing as a calm and rational act 1196 01:03:13,589 --> 01:03:14,924 of premeditated execution. 1197 01:03:14,991 --> 01:03:17,426 A man described as deranged or a kook. 1198 01:03:18,427 --> 01:03:20,229 [Loder] The kid that shot John Lennon 1199 01:03:20,296 --> 01:03:22,665 was somebody whose life was not paying off 1200 01:03:22,732 --> 01:03:24,000 in any way for him, I suppose. 1201 01:03:24,066 --> 01:03:27,904 And John Lennon is a guy whose life paid off in every way. 1202 01:03:28,538 --> 01:03:30,540 [reporter] The suspect in custody is identified 1203 01:03:30,606 --> 01:03:33,176 as 25-year-old Mark David Chapman from Hawaii. 1204 01:03:33,242 --> 01:03:35,578 [Kaye] I had heard some news reports 1205 01:03:35,645 --> 01:03:38,514 where they said that they had caught him. 1206 01:03:38,581 --> 01:03:42,118 [reporter] The defendant was arraigned on a charge of second-degree murder. 1207 01:03:42,185 --> 01:03:46,622 And without even seeing a picture, I knew that it was that guy. 1208 01:03:46,689 --> 01:03:50,359 [reporter] With Lennon at the time of the shooting was his wife, Yoko Ono. 1209 01:03:50,426 --> 01:03:53,296 When doctors told her Lennon was dead, she cried, 1210 01:03:53,362 --> 01:03:55,131 "Tell me it isn't true." 1211 01:03:56,132 --> 01:03:59,435 [Norman] Yoko witnessed this appalling moment, 1212 01:03:59,502 --> 01:04:02,071 an indescribable anguish, 1213 01:04:02,138 --> 01:04:04,774 and has since not used the killer's name, 1214 01:04:04,841 --> 01:04:07,109 which I think most people would agree with. 1215 01:04:15,318 --> 01:04:17,653 They had one of the great love stories, I suppose. 1216 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,522 -[camera shutters click] -He thought she was, 1217 01:04:19,589 --> 01:04:21,691 you know, the sun and the moon and the stars. 1218 01:04:23,059 --> 01:04:24,694 It's very touching, really. 1219 01:04:26,762 --> 01:04:28,631 [Womack] John liked to talk to Yoko 1220 01:04:28,698 --> 01:04:30,766 about what things would be like when they're older. 1221 01:04:30,833 --> 01:04:32,735 They imagine that they'd return to England 1222 01:04:32,802 --> 01:04:35,571 and they would live in a little seaside place. 1223 01:04:35,638 --> 01:04:38,507 And Sean would, you know, send them postcards 1224 01:04:38,574 --> 01:04:40,743 about his great adventures and travels. 1225 01:04:40,810 --> 01:04:43,613 And there they would be as these kind of doting parents, 1226 01:04:43,679 --> 01:04:48,784 possibly even grandparents, two old codgers living by the seaside. 1227 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,590 [Max Robinson] Lennon's wife Yoko Ono said in a statement this afternoon 1228 01:04:54,657 --> 01:04:56,759 there will be no funeral service for her husband. 1229 01:04:56,826 --> 01:04:59,095 Instead, she will set a time later this week 1230 01:04:59,161 --> 01:05:01,764 for all his friends and fans to pray for his soul. 1231 01:05:06,235 --> 01:05:10,072 [Gruen] When Yoko had to tell Sean that his father wasn't coming home, 1232 01:05:10,139 --> 01:05:11,274 he was dead, 1233 01:05:11,340 --> 01:05:13,309 Sean said, "Well, now he's everywhere." 1234 01:05:19,181 --> 01:05:21,918 And I think that that might have been one of the things 1235 01:05:21,984 --> 01:05:24,921 that inspired Yoko to call for ten minutes of silence 1236 01:05:24,987 --> 01:05:27,056 anywhere in the world, everywhere in the world, 1237 01:05:27,123 --> 01:05:30,660 because John was now everywhere and is everywhere. 1238 01:05:35,831 --> 01:05:39,402 That Sunday in Central Park was truly incredible. 1239 01:05:43,572 --> 01:05:46,175 We went on the air for an hour, ten minutes of which 1240 01:05:46,242 --> 01:05:48,411 was the ten minutes of silence. 1241 01:05:48,477 --> 01:05:51,447 And we had multiple cameras in the park. 1242 01:05:54,917 --> 01:05:58,621 And the moment came when the only thing you could hear 1243 01:05:58,688 --> 01:06:01,457 were the helicopters from the news crews. 1244 01:06:01,524 --> 01:06:03,526 [helicopters flying distantly] 1245 01:06:11,667 --> 01:06:13,169 [Weiss] Just seeing the tears, 1246 01:06:13,235 --> 01:06:16,472 just seeing the sadness or seeing the grief, 1247 01:06:16,539 --> 01:06:19,275 it was really a testament 1248 01:06:19,342 --> 01:06:22,678 to just how much this man, John Lennon, 1249 01:06:22,745 --> 01:06:25,548 touched the lives of so many people. 1250 01:06:32,455 --> 01:06:36,492 Yoko wanted the world to take a minute and breathe, 1251 01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:39,061 and listen to their own heartbeat. 1252 01:06:49,138 --> 01:06:51,474 [Weiss] It was truly incredible. 1253 01:07:07,123 --> 01:07:10,226 One thing she never wanted to be was a widow. 1254 01:07:11,027 --> 01:07:13,496 And that was difficult, you know. 1255 01:07:17,566 --> 01:07:20,870 [Mintz] The weeks following John's death, 1256 01:07:20,936 --> 01:07:23,906 days turned to nights and the nights turned to days. 1257 01:07:24,573 --> 01:07:26,809 It was a blur. 1258 01:07:29,045 --> 01:07:31,313 [Gruen] Yoko actually went back in the studio 1259 01:07:31,380 --> 01:07:34,784 and finished the record that they were working on the night he was killed. 1260 01:07:35,284 --> 01:07:38,421 When the album was being finished, I went to the Dakota 1261 01:07:38,487 --> 01:07:40,756 and I listened to the last playback of the album. 1262 01:07:48,697 --> 01:07:52,868 And as we were listening to it, the sun was coming up over Central Park. 1263 01:07:52,935 --> 01:07:55,805 Sean woke up and climbed into bed with his mother. 1264 01:07:55,871 --> 01:07:59,375 It was such a Madonna and child kind of moment. 1265 01:07:59,442 --> 01:08:02,778 I was able to just take my camera and just take a couple of pictures. 1266 01:08:02,845 --> 01:08:04,747 [camera shutters click] 1267 01:08:05,181 --> 01:08:08,117 It happened to be Mother's Day 1981. 1268 01:08:11,353 --> 01:08:14,790 [Mintz] Sean was deprived of everything with his father 1269 01:08:14,857 --> 01:08:18,327 that would come beyond him turning five years old. 1270 01:08:21,197 --> 01:08:22,832 [Yoko Ono] If Sean wasn't around, 1271 01:08:22,898 --> 01:08:25,668 I could have just sort of chucking everything 1272 01:08:25,734 --> 01:08:27,837 and staying in a hotel 1273 01:08:27,903 --> 01:08:31,373 and just go to a corner bar every night or whatever. 1274 01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:33,476 I could have been reckless. 1275 01:08:33,542 --> 01:08:35,611 Each time I felt like being reckless, 1276 01:08:35,678 --> 01:08:41,450 I thought that I have to just keep the same life 1277 01:08:41,517 --> 01:08:43,385 that John and I were leading 1278 01:08:43,452 --> 01:08:46,455 in the same apartment and the same routine, 1279 01:08:46,522 --> 01:08:48,390 for Sean's sake. 1280 01:08:56,298 --> 01:09:00,803 The trial was scheduled to start in June of 1981, 1281 01:09:00,870 --> 01:09:03,839 six and a half months after the murder. 1282 01:09:03,906 --> 01:09:06,775 He was going to plead not guilty and use the insanity defense. 1283 01:09:09,111 --> 01:09:12,114 But he had this thing planned for months. 1284 01:09:12,781 --> 01:09:15,784 [Kim Hogrefe] On the day that he murdered John Lennon, 1285 01:09:15,851 --> 01:09:18,387 the defendant went up to Sean, 1286 01:09:18,454 --> 01:09:20,322 said hello to him and shook his hand. 1287 01:09:21,891 --> 01:09:24,727 [Connelly] What kind of person reaches out to the child 1288 01:09:24,793 --> 01:09:27,696 of the man whom he will later murder? 1289 01:09:28,164 --> 01:09:33,135 And thereafter, he remains at the scene to be apprehended. 1290 01:09:34,503 --> 01:09:37,239 [Hogrefe] The fact that he chose to wait at the scene 1291 01:09:37,306 --> 01:09:40,843 was an indication that he was aware 1292 01:09:40,910 --> 01:09:43,579 that he had done something that was wrong. 1293 01:09:44,180 --> 01:09:46,916 So basically, his defense fell apart. 1294 01:09:47,850 --> 01:09:50,719 He told me that God told him to plead guilty. 1295 01:09:50,786 --> 01:09:53,189 ["World News Tonight" theme playing] 1296 01:09:53,489 --> 01:09:56,559 [announcer] From ABC, this is World News Tonight. 1297 01:09:56,992 --> 01:09:58,727 ...convicted of the murder of John Lennon, 1298 01:09:58,794 --> 01:10:01,497 was sentenced to serve 20 years to life in prison. 1299 01:10:02,431 --> 01:10:04,800 [Hogrefe] This was an individual who was narcissistic, 1300 01:10:04,867 --> 01:10:07,403 who thought he was worthy of great attention. 1301 01:10:07,469 --> 01:10:10,973 So he sought that attention in a very violent way. 1302 01:10:11,674 --> 01:10:13,342 [Connelly] Quite understandably, 1303 01:10:13,409 --> 01:10:17,313 the coverage of the man who shot John Lennon was everywhere. 1304 01:10:17,813 --> 01:10:20,749 [Weiss] He killed John Lennon for the sole purpose 1305 01:10:20,816 --> 01:10:22,885 of making himself famous. 1306 01:10:22,952 --> 01:10:26,255 We should never have given this man 1307 01:10:26,322 --> 01:10:29,758 the glory of his name being all across the country, 1308 01:10:29,825 --> 01:10:31,193 all around the world. 1309 01:10:31,260 --> 01:10:35,030 In many ways, I think that we journalists did a disservice. 1310 01:10:37,099 --> 01:10:39,301 [reporter 1] The man who murdered John Lennon 20 years ago 1311 01:10:39,368 --> 01:10:40,936 gets his first parole hearing today. 1312 01:10:41,003 --> 01:10:42,504 [reporter 2] The New York Parole Board 1313 01:10:42,571 --> 01:10:45,040 turned down the man who killed John Lennon yesterday. 1314 01:10:45,107 --> 01:10:49,144 It's a state law that he has to come up for parole every two years. 1315 01:10:49,211 --> 01:10:51,046 It's been turned down every time. 1316 01:10:51,113 --> 01:10:54,283 John Lennon's killer was told he will remain behind bars, 1317 01:10:54,350 --> 01:10:56,418 denied parole now for the seventh time... 1318 01:10:56,485 --> 01:10:58,887 [reporter 2] ...denied him parole for the eighth time. 1319 01:10:58,954 --> 01:11:02,858 [Hogrefe] The defendant has been denied parole 11 times now. 1320 01:11:09,098 --> 01:11:11,667 [Yoko Ono] I still can't get over John's death. 1321 01:11:11,734 --> 01:11:14,236 I'm still sort of recuperating from that. 1322 01:11:15,871 --> 01:11:19,441 Inside, there's something that is still sort of... 1323 01:11:22,044 --> 01:11:23,312 just tight. 1324 01:11:31,053 --> 01:11:32,755 [Gruen] Yoko called me. 1325 01:11:32,821 --> 01:11:35,758 She wanted me to help her take a picture of the glasses 1326 01:11:35,824 --> 01:11:38,460 that John was wearing the night he was shot. 1327 01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:42,398 She took out John's glasses. 1328 01:11:42,464 --> 01:11:45,200 The glasses are broken and bloodied. 1329 01:11:45,801 --> 01:11:47,202 And we were both crying. 1330 01:11:47,269 --> 01:11:49,705 And it was really horrible to see them. 1331 01:11:51,373 --> 01:11:52,941 But when you look at those glasses 1332 01:11:53,008 --> 01:11:56,178 and you get just a little bit of the actual feeling, 1333 01:11:57,046 --> 01:11:58,847 it's so horrible, 1334 01:11:58,914 --> 01:12:01,850 because it's not just a picture of some bloodied glasses. 1335 01:12:01,917 --> 01:12:05,521 It's a horrible moment brought out in public 1336 01:12:05,587 --> 01:12:07,323 and stated publicly. 1337 01:12:08,223 --> 01:12:10,893 She was going to let the world know 1338 01:12:10,959 --> 01:12:14,296 that she had been widowed by gun violence. 1339 01:12:14,363 --> 01:12:18,000 And why shouldn't she share that? Why can't she share that? 1340 01:12:18,067 --> 01:12:19,501 That's what she saw. 1341 01:12:20,169 --> 01:12:22,538 [Mintz] The next album that Yoko put out 1342 01:12:22,604 --> 01:12:25,207 was an album called Season of Glass. 1343 01:12:25,607 --> 01:12:29,278 That's where John's eyeglasses appeared on the cover 1344 01:12:29,345 --> 01:12:30,913 to make the point. 1345 01:12:32,981 --> 01:12:35,884 It's letting that image itself do the talking, 1346 01:12:35,951 --> 01:12:38,854 and it's just as powerful now as it was 40 years ago. 1347 01:12:47,863 --> 01:12:48,997 [police whistle blows] 1348 01:12:49,064 --> 01:12:51,900 [Gruen] After John passed away, there was talk in the early '80s 1349 01:12:51,967 --> 01:12:54,670 of putting a statue of John in Central Park. 1350 01:12:55,237 --> 01:12:56,805 John used to make fun of the statues, 1351 01:12:56,872 --> 01:13:00,376 because there's a famous person with a pigeon dumping on their head. 1352 01:13:00,442 --> 01:13:03,045 We wouldn't want some pigeon standing on John's head. 1353 01:13:03,579 --> 01:13:06,615 And so Yoko created a park for world peace. 1354 01:13:06,682 --> 01:13:09,084 Beatle John Lennon would have been 45 years old today, 1355 01:13:09,151 --> 01:13:12,221 and today his widow, Yoko Ono, and New York City officials 1356 01:13:12,287 --> 01:13:15,224 dedicated a 2 1/2-acre site in New York Central Park. 1357 01:13:15,290 --> 01:13:18,927 It was a spot that I guess him and Yoko used to visit all the time. 1358 01:13:18,994 --> 01:13:22,264 [Rita Sands] Just a few hundred yards from where Lennon lived and died, 1359 01:13:22,331 --> 01:13:23,899 New Yorkers honored his memory 1360 01:13:23,966 --> 01:13:26,935 by naming this patch of Parkland "Strawberry Fields," 1361 01:13:27,836 --> 01:13:29,805 after a famous Beatles song. 1362 01:13:34,676 --> 01:13:36,979 [Gruen] Yoko worked with somebody at the United Nations 1363 01:13:37,045 --> 01:13:39,548 to get in touch with the leaders of every country in the world 1364 01:13:39,615 --> 01:13:41,550 and ask them all to donate something 1365 01:13:41,617 --> 01:13:44,920 so that the whole world could grow together in Strawberry Fields. 1366 01:13:47,890 --> 01:13:49,525 [Mitchell] It's a living monument. 1367 01:13:49,591 --> 01:13:53,896 Something to be fed and to be nourished and to be cared for. 1368 01:13:54,363 --> 01:13:55,831 [reporter] 123 nations 1369 01:13:55,898 --> 01:13:58,700 donated trees and plants in Lennon's memory. 1370 01:13:59,668 --> 01:14:02,037 [Weiss] You know, it's got a big plaque there 1371 01:14:02,104 --> 01:14:03,505 and a beautiful mosaic 1372 01:14:03,572 --> 01:14:05,941 which was actually a gift from the city of Naples. 1373 01:14:06,008 --> 01:14:08,510 It's that single word. "Imagine." 1374 01:14:08,577 --> 01:14:11,313 [Mitchell] It's a place that reminds us 1375 01:14:11,380 --> 01:14:13,282 of who he was and what he did with his life 1376 01:14:13,348 --> 01:14:16,351 and the statement that he wanted to make with his art. 1377 01:14:16,418 --> 01:14:18,520 [man] Lennon, imagine, peace and love. 1378 01:14:19,855 --> 01:14:21,924 If you're in a plane over Central Park, you look down, 1379 01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:25,861 because of the shape of the roads around that spot in Central Park, 1380 01:14:25,928 --> 01:14:27,763 it looks like a teardrop. 1381 01:14:28,397 --> 01:14:33,735 [Yoko Ono] This garden is a result of all of us dreaming together. 1382 01:14:34,269 --> 01:14:39,741 It is our way of taking a sad song and making it better. 1383 01:14:41,143 --> 01:14:43,078 [Palma] Three years ago, I visited. 1384 01:14:43,145 --> 01:14:45,547 And there were so many people there, you know. 1385 01:14:46,682 --> 01:14:48,884 People go to remember, you know. 1386 01:14:49,685 --> 01:14:51,353 That's all John Lennon wanted, was peace. 1387 01:14:52,521 --> 01:14:54,857 And we're serious about the peace bit, you know. 1388 01:14:54,923 --> 01:14:57,292 If we're going to be hounded, we may as well say 1389 01:14:57,359 --> 01:14:59,461 what we have to say about peace and things. 1390 01:15:01,396 --> 01:15:04,700 [Gruen] Every once in a while, the world gets an artist like that. 1391 01:15:05,267 --> 01:15:08,537 And, fortunately, we had John Lennon to share, 1392 01:15:08,604 --> 01:15:12,741 and we have his art and his words and his ideas. 1393 01:15:13,675 --> 01:15:15,844 [Womack] He was heading toward new entries 1394 01:15:15,911 --> 01:15:17,579 in the Great American Songbook. 1395 01:15:17,646 --> 01:15:18,680 [camera shutters click] 1396 01:15:18,747 --> 01:15:20,516 When we're robbed of every moment of that, 1397 01:15:20,582 --> 01:15:22,518 for however long he would have lived, 1398 01:15:22,584 --> 01:15:24,119 you can't calculate it. 1399 01:15:24,186 --> 01:15:25,320 [camera shutters click] 1400 01:15:25,387 --> 01:15:27,723 [Sholin] If anyone ever wanted to do something 1401 01:15:27,789 --> 01:15:29,925 in the memory of John Lennon, 1402 01:15:29,992 --> 01:15:32,361 I would say follow the words of "Imagine." 1403 01:15:35,264 --> 01:15:38,166 Imagine all the people living life in peace. 1404 01:15:42,905 --> 01:15:44,172 [Gruen] Everybody thinks that, 1405 01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:47,342 but John gave people the words to express that. 1406 01:15:49,678 --> 01:15:52,481 [Norman] It has became an anthem for the world, 1407 01:15:52,548 --> 01:15:55,984 which transcends barriers of religion and race 1408 01:15:56,051 --> 01:15:59,021 and seems to have a timeless message. 1409 01:16:00,422 --> 01:16:05,460 It's hard to hear those songs and not be sad or wistful or angry, 1410 01:16:05,994 --> 01:16:07,763 to not want more of John. 1411 01:16:09,698 --> 01:16:12,167 [man] We proudly welcome to the Walk of Fame, 1412 01:16:12,234 --> 01:16:13,869 Mr. John Lennon. 1413 01:16:15,537 --> 01:16:19,675 [Yoko Ono] I think his spirit and music were very, very significant 1414 01:16:19,741 --> 01:16:22,144 for a lot of people, and still is. 1415 01:16:23,745 --> 01:16:26,782 I think it's important to keep my dad's music 1416 01:16:26,848 --> 01:16:29,518 and his message out there in the consciousness, 1417 01:16:29,585 --> 01:16:32,988 because it's a message that everyone can connect with. 1418 01:16:33,855 --> 01:16:36,925 We come here with our hearts to honor Dad 1419 01:16:36,992 --> 01:16:39,461 and to pray for peace. 1420 01:16:43,732 --> 01:16:46,435 [Norman] So, a sainthood, really, has come to John Lennon, 1421 01:16:46,501 --> 01:16:48,804 though he would have laughed at the idea. 1422 01:16:49,538 --> 01:16:51,273 What made us love him 1423 01:16:51,340 --> 01:16:54,743 was because he was so very far from being a saint. 1424 01:16:56,678 --> 01:16:58,380 [projector whirring] 1425 01:17:00,482 --> 01:17:03,719 [Mintz] So, here we are, 40 years later, 1426 01:17:04,486 --> 01:17:07,255 talking about this man and this man's music. 1427 01:17:07,990 --> 01:17:12,294 The music lasts because it was real. 1428 01:17:13,428 --> 01:17:17,265 The music hits home and stays there. 113715

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