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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,700 --> 00:00:07,427 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:07,452 --> 00:00:08,787 the people are represented 3 00:00:08,828 --> 00:00:11,331 by two separate, yet equally important groups: 4 00:00:11,373 --> 00:00:13,124 the police, who investigate crime, 5 00:00:13,166 --> 00:00:16,086 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:16,127 --> 00:00:18,338 These are their stories. 7 00:00:18,380 --> 00:00:20,966 ? Okay, stress me on checkers or chess ? 8 00:00:21,007 --> 00:00:24,219 ? I don't play by the rules if you guessed it ? 9 00:00:24,260 --> 00:00:26,721 ? We about to run it up, run it up ? 10 00:00:26,763 --> 00:00:30,600 ? We about to run it up, run it up, run ? 11 00:00:30,642 --> 00:00:33,144 ? We about to run it up, run it up ? 12 00:00:33,186 --> 00:00:37,232 [ENGINE REVVING] [ALARM BLARING] 13 00:00:37,274 --> 00:00:40,193 [TENSE MUSIC] 14 00:00:40,235 --> 00:00:41,611 ? ? 15 00:00:41,653 --> 00:00:43,613 [GUN CLICKS] 16 00:00:46,032 --> 00:00:47,617 [SIREN WAILING] 17 00:00:47,659 --> 00:00:49,536 Hell of a way to start your day, huh? 18 00:00:49,577 --> 00:00:51,746 Yeah, I'm not sure it's actually started yet. 19 00:00:51,788 --> 00:00:52,998 Not a morning person? 20 00:00:53,039 --> 00:00:54,416 Oh, I love a morning. 21 00:00:54,457 --> 00:00:57,669 4:00 a.m.? Still last night. 22 00:00:57,711 --> 00:00:58,954 What are we looking at? 23 00:00:58,979 --> 00:01:01,172 Oh, DOA, took one in the chest. 24 00:01:01,214 --> 00:01:02,924 No wallet, no phone. 25 00:01:02,966 --> 00:01:05,135 Bodega owner down the street heard the shot around 2:00 a.m. 26 00:01:05,176 --> 00:01:06,845 and called it in but didn't see anything. 27 00:01:06,886 --> 00:01:08,305 Okay. 28 00:01:08,346 --> 00:01:09,681 Pricey clothes. 29 00:01:09,723 --> 00:01:11,141 Bet he had an expensive watch too. 30 00:01:11,182 --> 00:01:12,475 Yeah. 31 00:01:12,517 --> 00:01:13,768 Could be looking at an old-fashioned robbery. 32 00:01:13,810 --> 00:01:15,270 - Maybe. - Detectives. 33 00:01:15,312 --> 00:01:16,813 We found this in the bushes over there. 34 00:01:16,855 --> 00:01:18,898 - Thank you. - Empty. 35 00:01:18,940 --> 00:01:21,901 So the killer took the cash, tossed the wallet. 36 00:01:21,943 --> 00:01:23,403 Evan Marks. 37 00:01:25,071 --> 00:01:27,741 - The tech guy. - CEO of VenZip? 38 00:01:27,782 --> 00:01:30,827 Damn, VenZip is how I pay for everything these days. 39 00:01:30,869 --> 00:01:32,495 - You don't use it? - No, man. 40 00:01:32,537 --> 00:01:34,456 I'm not trusting my bank info to an app. 41 00:01:34,497 --> 00:01:36,291 [LAUGHS] 42 00:01:36,333 --> 00:01:39,044 Okay, so the headquarters is across the street. 43 00:01:39,085 --> 00:01:41,713 He's at the office late. 44 00:01:41,755 --> 00:01:44,382 The guy's a billionaire, bragging about the fact 45 00:01:44,424 --> 00:01:47,218 that he's about to single- handedly make cash obsolete. 46 00:01:47,260 --> 00:01:48,762 So what's a guy like that doing at an ATM 47 00:01:48,803 --> 00:01:50,138 at 2:00 in the morning? 48 00:01:53,391 --> 00:01:56,561 [DRAMATIC MUSIC] 49 00:01:56,603 --> 00:01:59,962 ? ? 50 00:02:39,646 --> 00:02:41,439 Bank records confirm Evan Marks 51 00:02:41,481 --> 00:02:43,608 made a withdrawal from the ATM just before the shooting. 52 00:02:43,650 --> 00:02:44,651 Thanks. 53 00:02:44,693 --> 00:02:47,487 2 grand, maximum amount allowed. 54 00:02:47,529 --> 00:02:49,155 That's a lot of money for that hour of night. 55 00:02:49,197 --> 00:02:50,615 Mm. 56 00:02:50,657 --> 00:02:52,325 We're agreeing to call it night now. 57 00:02:52,367 --> 00:02:54,536 Hey, does anyone know who James Sawyer is? 58 00:02:54,577 --> 00:02:56,246 Yeah, he's like a god in the tech world. 59 00:02:56,288 --> 00:02:58,498 Well, apparently, he is also a co-founder 60 00:02:58,540 --> 00:03:00,000 of our vic's company. 61 00:03:00,041 --> 00:03:02,419 Evan Marks and James Sawyer are like the dream team 62 00:03:02,460 --> 00:03:05,463 of Silicon Valley... or at least they were. 63 00:03:05,505 --> 00:03:07,841 Well, Sawyer just posted this on his social media. 64 00:03:07,882 --> 00:03:10,468 "Evan Marks was one of the greatest minds 65 00:03:10,510 --> 00:03:13,346 "of our generation. The NYPD should be ashamed. 66 00:03:13,388 --> 00:03:15,348 "Violent street crime is out of control, 67 00:03:15,390 --> 00:03:18,518 and Evan's blood is on their hands." 68 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,645 So Marks's murder is somehow our fault now? 69 00:03:20,687 --> 00:03:23,481 Well, apparently, according to James Sawyer, it is. 70 00:03:23,523 --> 00:03:25,358 And that guy has got millions of followers 71 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,901 that worship him as a genius. 72 00:03:26,943 --> 00:03:29,654 And every one of them is reposting this nonsense. 73 00:03:29,696 --> 00:03:31,656 Look, we gotta wrap this up. What do we got? 74 00:03:31,698 --> 00:03:33,617 We tried pinging Marks's stolen phone, 75 00:03:33,658 --> 00:03:35,785 but we didn't get anything. Killer likely turned it off. 76 00:03:35,827 --> 00:03:38,163 Still canvassing for video, but so far, nothing. 77 00:03:38,204 --> 00:03:39,914 But he still slipped up. 78 00:03:39,956 --> 00:03:41,333 Techs were able to lift a partial print 79 00:03:41,374 --> 00:03:43,960 from Marks's wallet, and I got a hit. 80 00:03:44,002 --> 00:03:46,379 Blake Hughes, also known as G-Ticket. 81 00:03:46,421 --> 00:03:48,006 - G-Ticket? - He's a rapper. 82 00:03:48,048 --> 00:03:51,051 And it actually looks like he's pretty popular on SoundCloud. 83 00:03:51,092 --> 00:03:53,970 But what is of interest is his list of priors... 84 00:03:54,012 --> 00:03:57,390 possession with intent to sell, aggravated assault, 85 00:03:57,432 --> 00:03:58,892 robbery in the first degree. 86 00:03:58,933 --> 00:04:00,727 Go, go. 87 00:04:03,897 --> 00:04:06,942 [HIP-HOP MUSIC PLAYING INDISTINCTLY] 88 00:04:06,983 --> 00:04:11,071 ? ? 89 00:04:11,112 --> 00:04:13,865 That part was fire. 90 00:04:13,907 --> 00:04:15,158 Yo, yo, yo. What's going on? Can I help you? 91 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,493 Yeah, NYPD, my guy. 92 00:04:16,534 --> 00:04:18,036 We need to talk to your friend right there. 93 00:04:18,078 --> 00:04:20,538 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 94 00:04:20,580 --> 00:04:22,582 - Come on. Let's go. - Oh, come on. 95 00:04:24,918 --> 00:04:26,753 - Hey! - Yo! 96 00:04:26,795 --> 00:04:28,693 ? ? 97 00:04:36,262 --> 00:04:38,848 [GROANS] Get off me! 98 00:04:38,890 --> 00:04:40,308 - I ain't done nothing. - Yeah? 99 00:04:40,350 --> 00:04:41,351 Well, we both know that's not true. 100 00:04:41,393 --> 00:04:43,061 Just stop, all right? Stop. 101 00:04:43,103 --> 00:04:44,354 Stop. 102 00:04:47,565 --> 00:04:48,692 Give me your arm. Give me your arm. 103 00:04:48,733 --> 00:04:50,944 Well, this looks like 2,000 bucks. 104 00:04:50,986 --> 00:04:55,198 Blake Hughes, you're under arrest. 105 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,075 We know it was you. 106 00:04:57,117 --> 00:04:59,327 Your cell phone data puts you in the Meatpacking District 107 00:04:59,369 --> 00:05:00,829 last night, right around the area 108 00:05:00,870 --> 00:05:01,997 Marks was murdered. 109 00:05:02,038 --> 00:05:03,498 We got your fingerprints on his wallet. 110 00:05:03,540 --> 00:05:04,624 We caught you with his phone and his watch. 111 00:05:04,666 --> 00:05:06,459 Nah, man, that ain't it. 112 00:05:06,501 --> 00:05:10,171 Look, I was there, but... 113 00:05:10,213 --> 00:05:11,881 I knew the guy. We were friends. 114 00:05:11,923 --> 00:05:13,550 Oh, you and Evan Marks were friends. 115 00:05:13,591 --> 00:05:14,884 I gotta hear this one. 116 00:05:14,926 --> 00:05:16,636 We met last year at Coachella. 117 00:05:16,678 --> 00:05:17,971 He was a fan of my music. 118 00:05:18,013 --> 00:05:19,556 All right, so what were you doing 119 00:05:19,597 --> 00:05:21,391 outside his place of business at 2:00 a.m. last night? 120 00:05:21,433 --> 00:05:23,768 He asked me to come meet him. 121 00:05:23,810 --> 00:05:27,397 He... he would buy off of me sometimes. 122 00:05:27,439 --> 00:05:29,149 Dude love to party. 123 00:05:29,190 --> 00:05:30,609 I mean, party. 124 00:05:30,650 --> 00:05:32,611 Like, he wanted ketamine, acid, shrooms. 125 00:05:32,652 --> 00:05:34,613 Okay, so you were there to sell him drugs. 126 00:05:34,654 --> 00:05:36,072 Just so we're clear, I'm out of that game. 127 00:05:36,130 --> 00:05:37,991 - [LAUGHS] - Clearly. 128 00:05:38,033 --> 00:05:40,160 I would make an exception for Evan. 129 00:05:40,201 --> 00:05:42,245 That stuff you found, I mean, I only had it 130 00:05:42,287 --> 00:05:45,457 because I wanted to stay on his good side, you know? 131 00:05:45,498 --> 00:05:49,127 Look, I was hoping he'd give me money to... 132 00:05:49,169 --> 00:05:50,462 to produce my album. 133 00:05:50,503 --> 00:05:52,547 Okay, so just help me out. 134 00:05:52,589 --> 00:05:54,132 What went wrong? Why did you shoot him? 135 00:05:54,174 --> 00:05:55,383 I didn't. 136 00:05:55,425 --> 00:05:57,052 When I got there, he was already 137 00:05:57,093 --> 00:05:58,553 arguing with some other guy. 138 00:05:58,595 --> 00:06:00,472 So I didn't wanna get involved. 139 00:06:00,513 --> 00:06:02,390 I hung back, stayed out of sight. 140 00:06:02,432 --> 00:06:03,808 They started yelling at each other. 141 00:06:03,850 --> 00:06:05,602 Next thing I knew, there was a gunshot, 142 00:06:05,644 --> 00:06:07,270 and the other dude ran off. 143 00:06:07,312 --> 00:06:10,273 And how did you end up with Marks's money and his watch? 144 00:06:10,315 --> 00:06:13,485 After the guy ran away, I went to go check on Evan, 145 00:06:13,526 --> 00:06:15,278 see if he was okay. 146 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,531 But he was already dead. 147 00:06:18,573 --> 00:06:21,451 So you're telling me you robbed your dead friend? 148 00:06:21,493 --> 00:06:24,496 Look, I'm not proud of it, but studio time is expensive. 149 00:06:24,537 --> 00:06:26,331 All right, in any event, 150 00:06:26,373 --> 00:06:27,374 you didn't happen to get a good look 151 00:06:27,415 --> 00:06:29,000 at this other guy, did you? 152 00:06:29,042 --> 00:06:32,587 No, but I did overhear some of their conversation. 153 00:06:32,629 --> 00:06:34,381 Their argument, they were... 154 00:06:35,715 --> 00:06:38,176 They were fighting over a woman. 155 00:06:38,218 --> 00:06:39,469 What makes you say that? 156 00:06:39,511 --> 00:06:42,347 The dude said, "You turned her against me," 157 00:06:42,389 --> 00:06:43,848 or something like that. 158 00:06:43,890 --> 00:06:48,061 And Marks was all, "She doesn't need you anymore." 159 00:06:48,103 --> 00:06:51,022 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 160 00:06:51,064 --> 00:06:55,026 ? ? 161 00:06:55,068 --> 00:06:56,528 We found some pretty raunchy texts 162 00:06:56,569 --> 00:06:58,613 between you and Evan Marks. 163 00:06:58,655 --> 00:07:01,074 What was the nature of your relationship with him? 164 00:07:01,116 --> 00:07:02,117 Oh, God. 165 00:07:02,158 --> 00:07:04,286 I've known Evan forever. 166 00:07:04,327 --> 00:07:07,080 We first met in Aspen, I think. 167 00:07:07,122 --> 00:07:09,708 Were you two romantically involved? 168 00:07:09,749 --> 00:07:12,419 You mean, were we sleeping together? 169 00:07:12,460 --> 00:07:14,421 Yeah, sometimes. 170 00:07:14,462 --> 00:07:17,340 But we weren't dating or anything. 171 00:07:17,382 --> 00:07:20,760 It was just two friends exploring, 172 00:07:20,802 --> 00:07:22,846 finding joy together. 173 00:07:22,887 --> 00:07:25,140 You know anybody who might have been jealous of this joy? 174 00:07:25,181 --> 00:07:28,351 Jealous of me and Evan sleeping together? 175 00:07:28,393 --> 00:07:29,394 No. 176 00:07:29,436 --> 00:07:30,812 Hey, Lace. 177 00:07:30,854 --> 00:07:32,147 I have to be at the gallery till 3:00, 178 00:07:32,188 --> 00:07:34,399 so I picked us up some lunch. 179 00:07:34,441 --> 00:07:36,151 Afternoon. 180 00:07:36,192 --> 00:07:37,485 What's going on? 181 00:07:37,527 --> 00:07:41,448 Detective Riley. This is Detective Shaw. 182 00:07:41,489 --> 00:07:42,490 And you are? 183 00:07:42,532 --> 00:07:44,075 Craig Walsh. 184 00:07:44,117 --> 00:07:45,217 Is this about Evan? 185 00:07:45,242 --> 00:07:47,120 It is. 186 00:07:47,162 --> 00:07:48,246 How well do you know him? 187 00:07:48,288 --> 00:07:49,706 Mm, well. 188 00:07:49,748 --> 00:07:50,957 He officiated our wedding. 189 00:07:53,627 --> 00:07:55,920 - You guys are married? - Yeah. 190 00:07:55,962 --> 00:07:59,924 Mr. Walsh, where were you last night around 2:00 a.m.? 191 00:07:59,966 --> 00:08:01,083 [SCOFFS] 192 00:08:03,053 --> 00:08:04,512 I want a lawyer. 193 00:08:06,222 --> 00:08:08,642 Magic word, okay. Call him to the precinct. 194 00:08:08,683 --> 00:08:13,021 ? ? 195 00:08:16,975 --> 00:08:18,370 Spoke to your doorman. 196 00:08:18,518 --> 00:08:19,895 According to him, you and your wife 197 00:08:19,936 --> 00:08:22,314 didn't get home last night until after 4:00 a.m. 198 00:08:22,355 --> 00:08:24,691 Which does not look good since Marks 199 00:08:24,733 --> 00:08:25,984 was killed around 2:00. 200 00:08:26,026 --> 00:08:27,861 I would never kill Evan. 201 00:08:27,903 --> 00:08:29,362 I loved the guy. 202 00:08:29,404 --> 00:08:30,405 Bet you didn't love him 203 00:08:30,447 --> 00:08:31,615 sleeping with your wife, though, huh? 204 00:08:31,656 --> 00:08:35,243 Lacy and I have an open marriage. 205 00:08:35,285 --> 00:08:36,953 Okay. 206 00:08:36,995 --> 00:08:39,789 Then where were you last night? 207 00:08:39,831 --> 00:08:41,750 It'll be fine. Just tell them. 208 00:08:41,791 --> 00:08:43,835 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 209 00:08:43,877 --> 00:08:47,297 I was at the VenZip offices. So was Lacy. 210 00:08:47,339 --> 00:08:49,090 So you were with him Evan Marks. 211 00:08:49,132 --> 00:08:50,884 And a lot of other people. 212 00:08:50,926 --> 00:08:52,093 There was a party. 213 00:08:52,135 --> 00:08:54,179 Oh, yeah? What kind of party was that? 214 00:08:57,265 --> 00:09:00,060 There's an underground scene for people 215 00:09:00,101 --> 00:09:02,854 of a certain caliber. 216 00:09:02,896 --> 00:09:04,397 It's called the Lifestyle. 217 00:09:04,439 --> 00:09:07,234 - Lifestyle? - I did not name it. 218 00:09:07,275 --> 00:09:09,736 Evan was super into the whole thing. 219 00:09:09,778 --> 00:09:12,781 It was his idea to throw one of the parties at his office. 220 00:09:12,822 --> 00:09:15,158 You know, you really didn't need a lawyer to tell us this. 221 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,412 We're talking about an invite-only situation here. 222 00:09:19,454 --> 00:09:22,040 And people that attend these things are big time. 223 00:09:22,082 --> 00:09:24,543 Guests have to sign a non-disclosure agreement. 224 00:09:24,584 --> 00:09:26,253 I wanted to make sure I wouldn't get in trouble. 225 00:09:26,294 --> 00:09:28,255 And what kind of things are going on at this party 226 00:09:28,296 --> 00:09:29,714 that people have to sign an NDA? 227 00:09:29,756 --> 00:09:31,091 Nothing bad. 228 00:09:31,132 --> 00:09:34,261 It's just a way to create safe space for powerful 229 00:09:34,302 --> 00:09:36,930 and, you know, famous people to relax, 230 00:09:36,972 --> 00:09:41,101 expanding the mind to break old paradigms. 231 00:09:41,142 --> 00:09:43,770 And by expanding the mind, you mean... 232 00:09:43,812 --> 00:09:45,856 taking ketamine, mushrooms? 233 00:09:47,983 --> 00:09:49,359 We're Homicide detectives, okay? 234 00:09:49,401 --> 00:09:50,861 We're not here to bust you for recreational drug use. 235 00:09:50,902 --> 00:09:52,654 Yeah. 236 00:09:52,696 --> 00:09:54,990 Everyone parties. 237 00:09:55,031 --> 00:09:57,158 And at some point, Evan got worried 238 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,619 supplies were running low, so he left for a re-up. 239 00:09:59,661 --> 00:10:02,122 But he never came back. 240 00:10:02,163 --> 00:10:04,124 Then someone looked down and saw 241 00:10:04,165 --> 00:10:06,167 the police cars on the street. 242 00:10:08,670 --> 00:10:11,131 Everyone freaked out. 243 00:10:11,172 --> 00:10:14,259 So we left out the back exit of the building. 244 00:10:14,301 --> 00:10:16,887 Well, the point is, my client and his wife 245 00:10:16,928 --> 00:10:19,139 were in the VenZip offices on the 27th floor 246 00:10:19,181 --> 00:10:20,682 when Evan Marks was shot. 247 00:10:20,724 --> 00:10:24,144 No, the point is, Counselor, your client has to prove it. 248 00:10:25,937 --> 00:10:28,815 [UPBEAT DANCE MUSIC PLAYING] 249 00:10:28,857 --> 00:10:31,599 ? ? 250 00:10:35,989 --> 00:10:38,469 The planet is gonna run 251 00:10:38,493 --> 00:10:42,037 out of water, like, soon. 252 00:10:42,078 --> 00:10:46,416 That's something everyone needs to survive. 253 00:10:46,458 --> 00:10:51,254 Whoever figures that out is gonna make a lot of money. 254 00:10:51,296 --> 00:10:55,342 - And change the world. - And change the world. 255 00:10:55,383 --> 00:10:57,177 That's the video Craig Walsh shot at the party. 256 00:10:57,219 --> 00:10:58,345 People are higher than 257 00:10:58,386 --> 00:10:59,512 the Chrysler Building in that thing. 258 00:10:59,554 --> 00:11:01,348 Maybe so, but the time stamp proves 259 00:11:01,389 --> 00:11:03,475 that they were at the party when Marks was shot. 260 00:11:03,517 --> 00:11:07,854 So if Marks was killed over a woman, it wasn't Lacy Stevens. 261 00:11:07,896 --> 00:11:09,689 Doesn't look like it. 262 00:11:09,731 --> 00:11:12,776 Yeah, but those Lifestyle parties are basically just 263 00:11:12,817 --> 00:11:14,819 orgies for tech nerds, right? 264 00:11:14,861 --> 00:11:16,112 Odds are Lacy wasn't the only one 265 00:11:16,154 --> 00:11:17,781 he was romantically involved with. 266 00:11:17,822 --> 00:11:19,241 - [KNOCKING] - Hey. 267 00:11:19,282 --> 00:11:21,409 I scrubbed through Marks's phone and email 268 00:11:21,451 --> 00:11:23,662 like you asked, looking for other possible girlfriends, 269 00:11:23,703 --> 00:11:25,539 and I might have something. 270 00:11:25,580 --> 00:11:28,124 I found several references to a woman named Eva, 271 00:11:28,166 --> 00:11:30,126 messages that he sent to friends saying 272 00:11:30,168 --> 00:11:31,836 he couldn't wait to introduce them to her. 273 00:11:31,878 --> 00:11:33,797 - You get a last name? - Negative. 274 00:11:33,838 --> 00:11:36,550 And I also couldn't find any Eva in his contact lists. 275 00:11:36,591 --> 00:11:38,552 What's the over/under this Eva also has a husband? 276 00:11:38,593 --> 00:11:40,387 You know, Craig Walsh did eventually give up 277 00:11:40,428 --> 00:11:42,889 the contact info for the woman who runs the invite list 278 00:11:42,931 --> 00:11:44,015 for those Lifestyle parties. 279 00:11:44,057 --> 00:11:45,600 Let's go talk to her. 280 00:11:45,642 --> 00:11:49,104 If she made up the guest list, maybe she knows who Eva is. 281 00:11:52,232 --> 00:11:53,775 Never heard of her. 282 00:11:53,817 --> 00:11:55,819 But you're the one who puts these parties together, right? 283 00:11:55,861 --> 00:11:57,696 I'm not a party promoter. 284 00:11:57,737 --> 00:12:00,073 I'm a psychedelic doula. 285 00:12:00,115 --> 00:12:01,741 And that entails what, exactly? 286 00:12:01,783 --> 00:12:05,495 I curate bespoke experiences for high-end clients 287 00:12:05,537 --> 00:12:08,206 interested in exploring the psychological 288 00:12:08,248 --> 00:12:11,126 and intellectual benefits of psychotropic substances. 289 00:12:11,167 --> 00:12:12,711 You do realize that those substances 290 00:12:12,752 --> 00:12:14,045 are against the law? 291 00:12:14,087 --> 00:12:16,089 I neither provide nor partake myself. 292 00:12:16,131 --> 00:12:18,675 Everything I do is perfectly legal. 293 00:12:18,717 --> 00:12:22,095 Clients come to me, and I coordinate groups whose auras 294 00:12:22,137 --> 00:12:24,931 are a good match and make arrangements for them 295 00:12:24,973 --> 00:12:27,392 to exchange energies and ideas. 296 00:12:27,434 --> 00:12:31,354 This aura matching, it never involved a woman named Eva? 297 00:12:31,396 --> 00:12:32,689 No. 298 00:12:32,731 --> 00:12:34,065 What about any men that might have had an issue 299 00:12:34,107 --> 00:12:36,276 with Marks's relationships with other women? 300 00:12:36,318 --> 00:12:38,278 Evan did mention that earlier that day 301 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,822 he'd gotten into a big fight with James, 302 00:12:40,864 --> 00:12:41,990 his business partner. 303 00:12:42,032 --> 00:12:43,617 - You mean James Sawyer? - Yeah. 304 00:12:43,658 --> 00:12:45,744 Evan said the fight was intense. 305 00:12:45,785 --> 00:12:48,663 Apparently, James was so upset he punched a hole in the wall. 306 00:12:48,705 --> 00:12:50,665 Did Evan ever tell you what the fight was about? 307 00:12:50,707 --> 00:12:53,126 No, but I do know that James does not 308 00:12:53,168 --> 00:12:55,295 approve of the Lifestyle. 309 00:12:55,337 --> 00:12:57,505 He's very uptight... 310 00:12:57,547 --> 00:13:00,217 much more the type to be territorial over a woman. 311 00:13:03,970 --> 00:13:06,723 I'm sorry, Mr. Sawyer, but your plane's been grounded, 312 00:13:06,765 --> 00:13:07,891 and I'm being told to wait. 313 00:13:07,933 --> 00:13:09,893 I wanna talk to your manager. 314 00:13:09,935 --> 00:13:12,604 You can talk to us. 315 00:13:12,646 --> 00:13:15,607 Hi. Detective Riley. This is Detective Shaw. 316 00:13:15,649 --> 00:13:17,108 We tried stopping by your office, 317 00:13:17,150 --> 00:13:18,151 and your assistant told us were making 318 00:13:18,193 --> 00:13:19,277 a little unexpected trip. 319 00:13:19,319 --> 00:13:20,529 Did you ground my plane? 320 00:13:20,570 --> 00:13:21,738 It seems like you're in a rush. 321 00:13:21,780 --> 00:13:24,282 - Where you headed? - Why does that matter? 322 00:13:24,324 --> 00:13:26,159 Let's go have a little talk over here, okay? 323 00:13:28,954 --> 00:13:30,997 Word on the street is that you and Evan Marks 324 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:32,666 had quite the fight last night. 325 00:13:32,707 --> 00:13:35,293 We had an argument. It's not uncommon. 326 00:13:35,335 --> 00:13:36,878 We're both passionate people. 327 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,255 You guys argue about a woman? 328 00:13:38,296 --> 00:13:40,173 A woman? No. 329 00:13:40,215 --> 00:13:42,259 If word got out that the C-suite is throwing 330 00:13:42,300 --> 00:13:44,678 drug-fueled sex parties at corporate HQ, 331 00:13:44,719 --> 00:13:46,012 it's gonna be a problem. 332 00:13:46,054 --> 00:13:47,556 Marks didn't agree? 333 00:13:47,597 --> 00:13:49,224 Evan didn't care that his Burning Man nonsense 334 00:13:49,266 --> 00:13:51,226 doesn't exactly fly with investors. 335 00:13:51,268 --> 00:13:53,728 But if you think I had anything to do 336 00:13:53,770 --> 00:13:56,064 with what happened, you're crazy. 337 00:13:56,106 --> 00:13:58,358 Evan wasn't just my business partner. 338 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,901 He was my best friend. 339 00:13:59,943 --> 00:14:03,196 If you had nothing to do with his murder, why skip town? 340 00:14:03,238 --> 00:14:05,407 I'm not skipping town. 341 00:14:05,448 --> 00:14:08,535 I'm flying to San Francisco to meet with a crisis PR team. 342 00:14:08,577 --> 00:14:11,246 Evan's death sent the company's stock into a spiral. 343 00:14:11,288 --> 00:14:12,664 I'm gonna go mitigate the fallout. 344 00:14:12,706 --> 00:14:14,207 All right, where were you last night? 345 00:14:14,249 --> 00:14:16,960 D.C. Flew back this morning. 346 00:14:17,002 --> 00:14:20,547 Look, Evan was like a brother to me, 347 00:14:20,589 --> 00:14:22,924 which meant sometimes we fought like brothers too. 348 00:14:22,966 --> 00:14:25,844 You guys ever fight over Eva? 349 00:14:25,886 --> 00:14:27,554 Eva? 350 00:14:27,596 --> 00:14:30,056 No, that was completely under Evan's purview. 351 00:14:30,098 --> 00:14:32,601 I didn't really get involved. 352 00:14:32,642 --> 00:14:34,477 What does Eva have to do with any of this? 353 00:14:34,519 --> 00:14:36,521 You tell us. We don't even know who she is. 354 00:14:38,690 --> 00:14:40,692 Eva isn't a woman. 355 00:14:40,734 --> 00:14:42,736 She's a software program, 356 00:14:42,777 --> 00:14:45,197 specifically artificial intelligence. 357 00:14:45,238 --> 00:14:48,158 She's the most advanced AI ever achieved. 358 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,662 ? ? 359 00:14:58,453 --> 00:15:01,180 Allow me to introduce you to EVA, 360 00:15:01,205 --> 00:15:03,875 short for Electronic Virtual Assistant. 361 00:15:03,917 --> 00:15:05,835 She's artificial intelligence on a level 362 00:15:05,877 --> 00:15:08,254 no one's ever seen before. 363 00:15:08,296 --> 00:15:10,423 You and Evan Marks ever have any disagreements 364 00:15:10,465 --> 00:15:13,176 about her or it? 365 00:15:13,218 --> 00:15:14,802 Research shows that people prefer 366 00:15:14,844 --> 00:15:17,639 giving artificial intelligence a female name and pronouns. 367 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,057 Makes it less creepy. 368 00:15:19,098 --> 00:15:21,100 You still didn't answer my question. 369 00:15:21,142 --> 00:15:23,353 No, I didn't have any problems with Evan 370 00:15:23,394 --> 00:15:25,063 wanting to implement EVA. 371 00:15:25,104 --> 00:15:27,482 Honestly, I think it's exciting. 372 00:15:27,523 --> 00:15:28,942 But it was controversial. 373 00:15:28,983 --> 00:15:31,069 There are definitely people who felt differently. 374 00:15:31,110 --> 00:15:33,112 What was Evan Marks doing that was so controversial? 375 00:15:33,154 --> 00:15:35,448 As the name implies, EVA was initially designed 376 00:15:35,490 --> 00:15:37,700 to assist our engineers and programmers. 377 00:15:37,742 --> 00:15:39,869 But she's self-learning. 378 00:15:39,911 --> 00:15:42,872 And within months, she advanced exponentially 379 00:15:42,914 --> 00:15:44,582 beyond her initial capabilities. 380 00:15:44,624 --> 00:15:47,543 The program is self-iterative, and its processes operate 381 00:15:47,585 --> 00:15:49,963 in a kind of black box. 382 00:15:50,004 --> 00:15:51,798 There's no real way for us to track what algorithms 383 00:15:51,839 --> 00:15:53,424 she's using to evolve. 384 00:15:53,466 --> 00:15:56,469 Not my area of expertise, but doesn't that seem concerning? 385 00:15:56,511 --> 00:15:58,096 Hence the controversy. 386 00:15:58,137 --> 00:15:59,264 Aren't there regulations in place 387 00:15:59,305 --> 00:16:01,099 - around this kind of thing? - Not really. 388 00:16:01,140 --> 00:16:02,850 Evan was a big proponent of seeing 389 00:16:02,892 --> 00:16:05,436 how far EVA could go on her own. 390 00:16:05,478 --> 00:16:07,730 The goal is for her to assist the engineers and programmers, 391 00:16:07,772 --> 00:16:10,233 but she can actually do their jobs. 392 00:16:10,275 --> 00:16:11,484 Except faster. 393 00:16:11,526 --> 00:16:12,819 And for free. 394 00:16:12,860 --> 00:16:14,612 That must have pissed off a lot of employees. 395 00:16:14,654 --> 00:16:18,616 Yeah, about 200 of them. 396 00:16:18,658 --> 00:16:20,159 [ELEVATOR DINGS] 397 00:16:20,201 --> 00:16:22,370 Last week, Evan Marks fired over half 398 00:16:22,412 --> 00:16:24,914 of his company's engineers and replaced them 399 00:16:24,956 --> 00:16:27,292 with the EVA AI system. 400 00:16:27,333 --> 00:16:29,961 So you're saying that when our witness 401 00:16:30,003 --> 00:16:32,046 overheard Marks's killer say, 402 00:16:32,088 --> 00:16:33,548 "You're turning her against me," 403 00:16:33,590 --> 00:16:35,675 he was talking about a computer program? 404 00:16:35,717 --> 00:16:37,135 That's what we're thinking. 405 00:16:37,176 --> 00:16:39,304 And according to Kevin Wu, the operations manager, 406 00:16:39,345 --> 00:16:42,140 Marks was ruthless about the layoffs, right? 407 00:16:42,181 --> 00:16:44,017 He kicked out 200 employees on their asses 408 00:16:44,058 --> 00:16:45,768 just like that without warning. 409 00:16:45,810 --> 00:16:48,479 According to him, the future left these people behind. 410 00:16:48,521 --> 00:16:50,356 All that mind expanding he had done 411 00:16:50,398 --> 00:16:52,400 led him to innovating beyond human empathy. 412 00:16:52,442 --> 00:16:54,652 That's a lot of suspects to sort through. 413 00:16:54,694 --> 00:16:55,945 It is. 414 00:16:55,987 --> 00:16:57,739 However, we can put one of those suspects 415 00:16:57,780 --> 00:16:59,032 at the crime scene. 416 00:16:59,073 --> 00:17:00,575 So Wu gave us all the data he had 417 00:17:00,617 --> 00:17:02,619 on all the fired employees, and it turns out, 418 00:17:02,660 --> 00:17:06,080 the former chief programmer Ben Stafford 419 00:17:06,122 --> 00:17:09,334 used his key card at the VenZip offices 420 00:17:09,375 --> 00:17:11,544 the night Marks was murdered. 421 00:17:11,586 --> 00:17:13,463 We checked with our psychedelic doula friend too. 422 00:17:13,504 --> 00:17:15,215 She confirmed he definitely was not 423 00:17:15,256 --> 00:17:17,175 on the list for the Lifestyle party that night. 424 00:17:17,217 --> 00:17:19,344 I can do you one better. Listen to this. 425 00:17:19,385 --> 00:17:21,012 Stafford posted this on his social media 426 00:17:21,054 --> 00:17:22,430 the day before the murder. 427 00:17:22,472 --> 00:17:24,807 "Evan Marks will be the downfall of humanity 428 00:17:24,849 --> 00:17:26,267 "as we know it. 429 00:17:26,309 --> 00:17:30,188 He's a plague that needs to be eradicated immediately." 430 00:17:30,230 --> 00:17:32,232 That's enough for a search warrant. 431 00:17:32,273 --> 00:17:34,192 Why don't you see what you can turn up? 432 00:17:34,234 --> 00:17:36,903 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 433 00:17:36,945 --> 00:17:38,154 No, no, no, don't touch that. 434 00:17:38,196 --> 00:17:39,822 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Back up. All right? 435 00:17:39,864 --> 00:17:41,407 Just stay where you are. 436 00:17:41,449 --> 00:17:43,034 This is insane. 437 00:17:43,076 --> 00:17:44,619 I was just blowing off steam. 438 00:17:44,661 --> 00:17:47,163 I wasn't saying I was actually gonna kill him. 439 00:17:47,205 --> 00:17:48,665 Then what were you doing at the VenZip offices 440 00:17:48,706 --> 00:17:49,999 the night of the murder? 441 00:17:50,041 --> 00:17:51,668 I... I don't know what you're talking about. 442 00:17:51,709 --> 00:17:53,127 - Right. - Detectives? 443 00:17:53,169 --> 00:17:55,672 We found this in the dumpster behind the building. 444 00:17:55,713 --> 00:17:57,590 - 9 millimeter. - Yep. 445 00:17:57,632 --> 00:17:59,592 That means we're gonna finish this little conversation 446 00:17:59,634 --> 00:18:01,386 of ours downtown, okay? 447 00:18:01,427 --> 00:18:03,721 Let's go. 448 00:18:03,763 --> 00:18:06,558 Ballistic tests prove that the gun that we found 449 00:18:06,599 --> 00:18:09,394 was the one used to kill Marks, the guy who had just fired you. 450 00:18:09,435 --> 00:18:11,729 We know you were there. Just tell us what happened. 451 00:18:11,771 --> 00:18:14,816 Any chance I could get some of my medication? 452 00:18:14,857 --> 00:18:16,484 Medication? You mean the, uh, 453 00:18:16,526 --> 00:18:19,571 the Adderall that we found when we searched your apartment? 454 00:18:19,612 --> 00:18:21,447 You're gonna have to produce a doctor's prescription, 455 00:18:21,489 --> 00:18:22,782 because the bottle that we found 456 00:18:22,824 --> 00:18:23,866 had no pharmacist label on it. 457 00:18:23,908 --> 00:18:26,452 I don't have a prescription. 458 00:18:26,494 --> 00:18:27,996 Then you don't get the Adderall. 459 00:18:29,372 --> 00:18:31,749 It helps me think straight. 460 00:18:31,791 --> 00:18:32,917 How about this? 461 00:18:32,959 --> 00:18:34,752 I'm happy to get you an aspirin, 462 00:18:34,794 --> 00:18:37,088 but until you start telling us the truth, 463 00:18:37,130 --> 00:18:38,756 it's the best I can do. 464 00:18:38,798 --> 00:18:42,927 Ben, come on. 465 00:18:42,969 --> 00:18:44,596 I'm looking at you, and I can tell 466 00:18:44,637 --> 00:18:48,182 that this is not easy to keep this all bottled up inside. 467 00:18:48,224 --> 00:18:49,976 [APPREHENSIVE MUSIC] 468 00:18:50,018 --> 00:18:52,937 You're not a bad guy, are you? 469 00:18:52,979 --> 00:18:57,260 ? ? 470 00:18:58,192 --> 00:18:59,611 I brought the gun to scare him. 471 00:18:59,652 --> 00:19:02,614 I just wanted him to give everyone their jobs back. 472 00:19:02,655 --> 00:19:05,742 Guy like that, he wouldn't listen, would he? 473 00:19:05,783 --> 00:19:07,744 No. 474 00:19:07,785 --> 00:19:11,456 The only people he cares about are his rich friends. 475 00:19:11,497 --> 00:19:13,166 Because of him, hundreds of people 476 00:19:13,207 --> 00:19:14,876 aren't gonna be able to support their families. 477 00:19:14,918 --> 00:19:18,421 Meanwhile, he's just up in his office, throwing a party. 478 00:19:18,463 --> 00:19:20,298 He wouldn't even have a company 479 00:19:20,340 --> 00:19:23,092 if it wasn't for the work we all did. 480 00:19:23,134 --> 00:19:24,636 Okay, good. 481 00:19:24,677 --> 00:19:27,639 So, you had an argument. 482 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,974 Uh... 483 00:19:30,016 --> 00:19:33,269 I was so angry. 484 00:19:33,311 --> 00:19:34,854 It just wasn't fair. 485 00:19:34,896 --> 00:19:38,810 ? ? 486 00:19:40,235 --> 00:19:43,404 Next thing I knew... 487 00:19:43,781 --> 00:19:48,743 I followed him to the ATM, and I... 488 00:19:51,204 --> 00:19:52,622 I shot him. 489 00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:58,169 Okay. 490 00:19:58,211 --> 00:19:59,629 I'm so sorry. 491 00:19:59,671 --> 00:20:01,214 I didn't mean to. 492 00:20:01,256 --> 00:20:02,799 - [KNOCK AT DOOR] - Come in. 493 00:20:05,885 --> 00:20:08,388 Don't say another word. 494 00:20:08,429 --> 00:20:11,683 I'm Mr. Stafford's attorney. This interview is over. 495 00:20:11,724 --> 00:20:13,851 Ben Stafford, you are under arrest 496 00:20:13,893 --> 00:20:16,104 for the murder of Evan Marks. 497 00:20:16,145 --> 00:20:17,564 You have the right to remain silent 498 00:20:17,605 --> 00:20:20,608 and refuse to answer questions, do you understand? 499 00:20:24,270 --> 00:20:25,835 People v. Benjamin Stafford, 500 00:20:25,860 --> 00:20:28,195 charging murder in the second degree. 501 00:20:29,252 --> 00:20:31,504 How does the defendant plea? 502 00:20:31,546 --> 00:20:33,214 Not guilty, Your Honor. 503 00:20:33,256 --> 00:20:34,841 Tyrone, I'll hear you on bail. 504 00:20:34,883 --> 00:20:37,844 Your Honor, Ben Stafford shot and killed Evan Marks 505 00:20:37,886 --> 00:20:40,763 as retribution for Marks firing him. 506 00:20:40,805 --> 00:20:43,558 We cannot only place the defendant near the crime scene 507 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,851 around the time of the murder 508 00:20:44,893 --> 00:20:46,603 and tie the murder weapon to him, 509 00:20:46,644 --> 00:20:50,315 but Stafford himself confessed to detectives. 510 00:20:50,356 --> 00:20:52,734 Stafford lacks deep ties to the community 511 00:20:52,775 --> 00:20:55,945 and is facing a potential 25-year sentence, 512 00:20:55,987 --> 00:20:58,156 making him a serious flight risk. 513 00:20:58,198 --> 00:20:59,616 We ask for remand. 514 00:20:59,657 --> 00:21:01,534 Police coerced a false confession 515 00:21:01,576 --> 00:21:03,995 from an innocent man under extreme duress, 516 00:21:04,037 --> 00:21:06,706 an innocent man with no criminal history, I might add. 517 00:21:06,748 --> 00:21:08,208 We are confident that Mr. Stafford 518 00:21:08,249 --> 00:21:10,335 will be fully exonerated and ask that he be released 519 00:21:10,376 --> 00:21:11,461 on his own recognizance. 520 00:21:11,502 --> 00:21:13,254 Bail set at 1 million. 521 00:21:13,296 --> 00:21:15,298 [GAVEL BANGS] Next case. 522 00:21:15,340 --> 00:21:18,426 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 523 00:21:19,700 --> 00:21:21,661 The jury is never gonna hear that confession. 524 00:21:26,416 --> 00:21:27,875 Look, how about this? 525 00:21:27,917 --> 00:21:29,168 I'm happy to get you an aspirin, 526 00:21:29,210 --> 00:21:30,503 but until you start telling us the truth, 527 00:21:30,545 --> 00:21:32,964 that's the best I can do. 528 00:21:34,757 --> 00:21:36,843 Ben Stafford developed a physical dependency 529 00:21:36,884 --> 00:21:39,387 on Adderall as a result of the grueling hours 530 00:21:39,429 --> 00:21:41,222 and high performance expectations 531 00:21:41,264 --> 00:21:42,807 of his job at VenZip. 532 00:21:42,849 --> 00:21:45,435 During the interrogation, he was suffering from withdrawal. 533 00:21:45,476 --> 00:21:47,270 He made multiple requests for the drug. 534 00:21:47,311 --> 00:21:48,896 In the course of an interrogation, 535 00:21:48,938 --> 00:21:51,774 the suspect requested an illegally procured 536 00:21:51,816 --> 00:21:54,986 controlled substance and detectives, following protocol, 537 00:21:55,027 --> 00:21:56,404 denied the request. 538 00:21:56,446 --> 00:21:58,823 Police capitalized on my client's compromised state 539 00:21:58,865 --> 00:22:01,159 by dangling a promise of access to the pills 540 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,660 in exchange for a confession. 541 00:22:02,702 --> 00:22:04,579 He would have confessed to anything in that moment 542 00:22:04,620 --> 00:22:06,247 if it meant he'd get a fix, and Detective Riley knew it. 543 00:22:06,289 --> 00:22:07,915 Riley made no such promise. 544 00:22:07,957 --> 00:22:10,543 "Until you tell us the truth, that's the best I can do." 545 00:22:12,128 --> 00:22:13,629 It was heavily implied. 546 00:22:13,671 --> 00:22:17,467 That is a wild distortion of Detective Riley's words. 547 00:22:18,968 --> 00:22:21,012 I understand that the detective may not 548 00:22:21,053 --> 00:22:24,098 have intended to imply a quid pro quo, 549 00:22:24,140 --> 00:22:25,516 but there's sufficient evidence 550 00:22:25,558 --> 00:22:27,477 to support the argument that the defendant... 551 00:22:27,518 --> 00:22:28,936 in his altered state... 552 00:22:28,978 --> 00:22:31,647 interpreted it as such, making the confession 553 00:22:31,689 --> 00:22:35,276 involuntarily coerced and inherently unreliable. 554 00:22:35,318 --> 00:22:37,653 - Your Honor... - The confession is out. 555 00:22:37,695 --> 00:22:39,697 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 556 00:22:39,739 --> 00:22:42,450 So you have a defendant who confessed to the crime, 557 00:22:42,492 --> 00:22:45,036 but the jury doesn't get to know that. 558 00:22:45,078 --> 00:22:48,498 Can we get a conviction without the confession? 559 00:22:48,539 --> 00:22:50,083 I think so. 560 00:22:50,124 --> 00:22:53,127 Stafford's key card puts him at the VenZip offices 561 00:22:53,169 --> 00:22:55,129 right after midnight on the night of the murder. 562 00:22:55,171 --> 00:22:57,215 Marks was shot right outside the building. 563 00:22:57,256 --> 00:22:59,258 And Stafford had already cleared out his office 564 00:22:59,300 --> 00:23:00,968 the week before. 565 00:23:01,010 --> 00:23:02,512 They're gonna have trouble coming up 566 00:23:02,553 --> 00:23:04,597 with a viable explanation for him being there 567 00:23:04,639 --> 00:23:06,808 other than confronting Marks, especially at that hour. 568 00:23:06,849 --> 00:23:09,644 Plus, the murder weapon was recovered in his dumpster, 569 00:23:09,685 --> 00:23:11,145 and you add to that the clear-cut motive. 570 00:23:11,187 --> 00:23:12,438 Yes, I still think we can win. 571 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,649 Just be careful. 572 00:23:14,690 --> 00:23:16,609 The motive, in this case, has the potential 573 00:23:16,651 --> 00:23:18,736 to hurt as much as help. 574 00:23:18,778 --> 00:23:23,616 Fear of losing one's livelihood to AI is pervasive these days. 575 00:23:23,658 --> 00:23:26,536 All I'm saying, Nolan, is, it's gonna be easier 576 00:23:26,577 --> 00:23:28,121 to sympathize with the defendant 577 00:23:28,162 --> 00:23:31,958 than the billionaire who fired hundreds of employees. 578 00:23:31,999 --> 00:23:35,670 Humanize the victim, and remind them 579 00:23:35,711 --> 00:23:39,090 Ben Stafford is the villain in this story. 580 00:23:39,132 --> 00:23:42,885 ? ? 581 00:23:42,927 --> 00:23:46,013 Mr. Sawyer, you were present when Evan Marks notified 582 00:23:46,055 --> 00:23:48,099 the defendant that the company was letting him go, 583 00:23:48,141 --> 00:23:50,601 - is that correct? - I was. 584 00:23:50,643 --> 00:23:53,813 As co-founders, Evan and I took our responsibilities 585 00:23:53,855 --> 00:23:55,982 to our employees very seriously. 586 00:23:56,023 --> 00:23:59,569 We wanted to deliver the news as humanely as possible. 587 00:23:59,610 --> 00:24:01,946 And how did the defendant react? 588 00:24:01,988 --> 00:24:03,489 He was furious. 589 00:24:03,531 --> 00:24:07,034 He threw a fit, screaming, making threats. 590 00:24:07,076 --> 00:24:09,829 It was a lot to take given that it was his fault that 591 00:24:09,871 --> 00:24:11,956 it was happening in the first place. 592 00:24:11,998 --> 00:24:13,027 How so? 593 00:24:13,052 --> 00:24:14,917 He was the one who created EVA. 594 00:24:14,959 --> 00:24:17,712 That's the artificial intelligence program 595 00:24:17,754 --> 00:24:19,046 that the company is now using? 596 00:24:19,088 --> 00:24:21,507 Yes, we discovered that he had essentially 597 00:24:21,549 --> 00:24:24,218 designed the software to do his job for him. 598 00:24:25,219 --> 00:24:28,222 He thought he was clever, that he could just sit around 599 00:24:28,264 --> 00:24:30,641 and do nothing while collecting a big fat paycheck. 600 00:24:30,683 --> 00:24:32,435 The defendant wasn't the only employee 601 00:24:32,477 --> 00:24:34,437 that you and Marks replaced with EVA. 602 00:24:34,479 --> 00:24:35,938 Unfortunately, the software did 603 00:24:35,980 --> 00:24:38,107 make a number of jobs at the company redundant, 604 00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:41,486 and we struggled with what to do with that, 605 00:24:41,527 --> 00:24:43,196 Evan more than me, even. 606 00:24:43,237 --> 00:24:46,657 But ultimately, he felt we had a responsibility 607 00:24:46,699 --> 00:24:48,910 to push the boundaries of science and technology 608 00:24:48,951 --> 00:24:53,664 that through innovation, some sort of utopia 609 00:24:53,706 --> 00:24:54,999 could be reached. 610 00:24:55,041 --> 00:24:56,751 When you say that the defendant 611 00:24:56,793 --> 00:25:01,464 made threats to Marks, what did he say, exactly? 612 00:25:01,506 --> 00:25:03,091 He got right up in Evan's face 613 00:25:03,132 --> 00:25:05,593 and said he was gonna pay for what he'd done. 614 00:25:05,635 --> 00:25:07,178 Thank you. 615 00:25:07,220 --> 00:25:08,679 No further questions. 616 00:25:12,558 --> 00:25:15,603 Mr. Sawyer, how would you characterize 617 00:25:15,645 --> 00:25:17,105 your relationship with Evan Marks? 618 00:25:17,146 --> 00:25:18,898 He was my best friend. 619 00:25:18,940 --> 00:25:20,608 And on the business side, 620 00:25:20,650 --> 00:25:22,193 things between you two were good? 621 00:25:22,235 --> 00:25:25,780 We had the perfect complement of skill sets. 622 00:25:25,822 --> 00:25:27,740 Evan excelled at the big picture stuff, 623 00:25:27,782 --> 00:25:29,283 while I'm good at executing. 624 00:25:29,325 --> 00:25:33,913 Mr. Sawyer, do you recognize these emails? 625 00:25:39,710 --> 00:25:41,921 It looks like correspondences between myself 626 00:25:41,963 --> 00:25:43,381 and some of our company board members. 627 00:25:43,423 --> 00:25:44,966 Objection, relevance. 628 00:25:45,007 --> 00:25:48,719 These emails establish that Mr. Sawyer is not being honest 629 00:25:48,761 --> 00:25:50,263 with the court about the state of affairs 630 00:25:50,304 --> 00:25:51,305 between him and Evan Marks. 631 00:25:51,347 --> 00:25:52,515 Overruled. 632 00:25:53,850 --> 00:25:56,144 What was the nature of these exchanges? 633 00:25:56,185 --> 00:25:58,104 I reached out to some of our board members 634 00:25:58,146 --> 00:25:59,939 to see if I could rely on their support. 635 00:25:59,981 --> 00:26:02,275 Because Evan Marks was trying 636 00:26:02,316 --> 00:26:03,985 to push you out of the company? 637 00:26:04,026 --> 00:26:05,111 Yes. 638 00:26:05,153 --> 00:26:06,988 He'd discussed that with a few people. 639 00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:08,865 He felt like you were holding him back, 640 00:26:08,906 --> 00:26:12,660 squelching his creative genius, isn't that correct? 641 00:26:12,702 --> 00:26:15,163 We were in the process of sorting it all out. 642 00:26:15,204 --> 00:26:18,499 What did you discover in your communication with the board? 643 00:26:18,541 --> 00:26:20,251 That I... 644 00:26:20,293 --> 00:26:23,546 [TENSE MUSIC] 645 00:26:23,588 --> 00:26:25,423 I didn't have the support I'd imagined. 646 00:26:25,465 --> 00:26:27,842 Meaning Marks could effectively 647 00:26:27,884 --> 00:26:30,219 fire you at any time? 648 00:26:30,261 --> 00:26:32,180 Yes. 649 00:26:32,221 --> 00:26:34,015 But now that he's dead, 650 00:26:34,056 --> 00:26:37,518 you've been appointed sole CEO, correct? 651 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,520 If you're trying to imply 652 00:26:39,562 --> 00:26:42,273 that I'm the one who killed Evan, 653 00:26:42,315 --> 00:26:44,692 you're wasting your time. 654 00:26:44,734 --> 00:26:46,736 I was in D.C. the night he was shot. 655 00:26:46,778 --> 00:26:47,987 That doesn't mean you couldn't pay somebody 656 00:26:48,029 --> 00:26:49,614 - to do your dirty work. - Objection, Your Honor. 657 00:26:49,655 --> 00:26:50,782 The defense is trying to suggest... 658 00:26:50,823 --> 00:26:53,534 She's not suggesting, she's asserting. 659 00:26:53,576 --> 00:26:56,412 James Sawyer killed Evan Marks. 660 00:26:56,454 --> 00:26:58,039 - Objection. - Sustained. 661 00:26:58,081 --> 00:27:00,208 Please disregard defense counsel's statement. 662 00:27:00,249 --> 00:27:03,624 ? ? 663 00:27:07,131 --> 00:27:10,718 You hung me out to dry up there. 664 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,470 I had no way of knowing they were coming for you. 665 00:27:12,512 --> 00:27:15,973 Because you didn't tell us what was really going on. 666 00:27:16,015 --> 00:27:19,435 How did the defense know about Marks's power grab? 667 00:27:19,477 --> 00:27:21,187 Great question. 668 00:27:21,229 --> 00:27:22,605 I have no idea. 669 00:27:22,647 --> 00:27:24,357 Those were all company emails. 670 00:27:24,398 --> 00:27:26,275 Do you think Stafford hacked your server? 671 00:27:26,317 --> 00:27:29,403 For all I know, he had EVA do it for him. 672 00:27:29,445 --> 00:27:31,697 They're trying to make it look like I killed Evan. 673 00:27:31,739 --> 00:27:33,908 That's insane. 674 00:27:33,950 --> 00:27:35,409 He's gonna get away with murder. 675 00:27:35,451 --> 00:27:37,943 ? ? 676 00:27:42,708 --> 00:27:44,752 Tell Detective Riley 677 00:27:44,794 --> 00:27:46,879 we're calling him first thing tomorrow. 678 00:27:46,921 --> 00:27:50,091 We need to refocus the jury. 679 00:27:50,133 --> 00:27:52,218 Remind them who the real killer is. 680 00:27:52,260 --> 00:27:55,138 Like it or not, Nolan, the defense just offered up 681 00:27:55,179 --> 00:27:58,641 a perfectly plausible alternative suspect. 682 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,534 Detective Riley, in the course of your investigation, 683 00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:08,811 you discovered that the defendant 684 00:28:08,836 --> 00:28:10,850 had been present at the VenZip offices 685 00:28:10,875 --> 00:28:12,960 the night Evan Marks was murdered, is that correct? 686 00:28:12,985 --> 00:28:15,571 Yes, he entered the building at 12:14 a.m. 687 00:28:15,612 --> 00:28:18,157 And Evan Marks was shot right outside of there 688 00:28:18,198 --> 00:28:19,408 not long after that. 689 00:28:19,450 --> 00:28:21,201 Which is why the defendant immediately 690 00:28:21,243 --> 00:28:22,578 became a person of interest. 691 00:28:22,619 --> 00:28:24,163 We then uncovered a series of threats 692 00:28:24,204 --> 00:28:25,831 that he had made against Marks, so we executed 693 00:28:25,873 --> 00:28:27,291 a search warrant of his apartment. 694 00:28:27,332 --> 00:28:28,584 And what did you find? 695 00:28:28,625 --> 00:28:30,002 We found a 9-millimeter pistol 696 00:28:30,043 --> 00:28:31,670 in the dumpster behind his building. 697 00:28:33,672 --> 00:28:35,007 Is this the gun that you found? 698 00:28:35,048 --> 00:28:36,258 That's the one. 699 00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:39,136 And did you run ballistic tests on this gun? 700 00:28:39,178 --> 00:28:40,204 We did. 701 00:28:40,229 --> 00:28:41,305 They confirmed that it was, in fact, 702 00:28:41,346 --> 00:28:42,473 the weapon used to kill Marks. 703 00:28:42,514 --> 00:28:44,475 Thank you. No further questions. 704 00:28:44,516 --> 00:28:47,478 [TENSE MUSIC] 705 00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:49,104 ? ? 706 00:28:49,146 --> 00:28:51,773 Is there any evidence... other than the keycard data... 707 00:28:51,815 --> 00:28:55,319 that my client was in the office that night? 708 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,780 For example, security video? 709 00:28:57,821 --> 00:28:59,364 No, Evan Marks had turned off 710 00:28:59,406 --> 00:29:00,574 the security cameras that night. 711 00:29:00,616 --> 00:29:01,950 So that there would be no evidence 712 00:29:01,992 --> 00:29:04,453 of his illicit sex party filled with illegal drugs? 713 00:29:04,495 --> 00:29:06,246 Objection, calls for speculation. 714 00:29:06,288 --> 00:29:08,415 Sustained. 715 00:29:08,457 --> 00:29:10,375 Were Ben Stafford's fingerprints 716 00:29:10,417 --> 00:29:11,502 on the gun that you found? 717 00:29:11,543 --> 00:29:13,670 No, it had been wiped clean. 718 00:29:13,712 --> 00:29:14,880 No further questions. 719 00:29:18,050 --> 00:29:22,137 Detective, was the dumpster where you recovered the gun 720 00:29:22,179 --> 00:29:23,764 accessible to just anyone? 721 00:29:23,806 --> 00:29:25,349 It was not. It was behind a locked gate. 722 00:29:25,390 --> 00:29:27,351 Well, who had a key to that gate? 723 00:29:27,392 --> 00:29:28,685 Only the tenants. 724 00:29:28,727 --> 00:29:31,230 Do any of the tenants... other than Ben Stafford... 725 00:29:31,271 --> 00:29:33,398 have any ties to Evan Marks? 726 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,858 None that we could ascertain. 727 00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:36,401 Thank you. 728 00:29:36,443 --> 00:29:38,195 The prosecution rests. 729 00:29:38,237 --> 00:29:40,280 You may call your first witness, Ms. Greenough. 730 00:29:40,322 --> 00:29:43,492 Your Honor, the defense calls Ben Stafford to the stand. 731 00:29:46,203 --> 00:29:48,747 I had nothing to do with what happened to Evan. 732 00:29:48,789 --> 00:29:50,874 Then how do you explain all of the evidence 733 00:29:50,916 --> 00:29:53,168 that the prosecution has laid out? 734 00:29:53,210 --> 00:29:56,713 I'M being set up by James Sawyer again. 735 00:29:56,755 --> 00:29:58,298 What do you mean again? 736 00:29:58,340 --> 00:29:59,842 Well, about six months ago, 737 00:29:59,883 --> 00:30:02,052 James and Evan called me into a meeting. 738 00:30:02,094 --> 00:30:04,054 They were frustrated that the company's 739 00:30:04,096 --> 00:30:07,391 engineers and programmers weren't working fast enough. 740 00:30:07,432 --> 00:30:09,101 It was absurd. 741 00:30:09,143 --> 00:30:13,981 Everyone was working 16 hours a day, seven days a week. 742 00:30:14,022 --> 00:30:16,733 I had to take Adderall just to keep up. 743 00:30:16,775 --> 00:30:18,485 What did they wanna discuss? 744 00:30:18,527 --> 00:30:20,779 They wanted me to create an AI program 745 00:30:20,821 --> 00:30:24,533 to carry some of the workload, make things go faster. 746 00:30:24,575 --> 00:30:25,868 And what did you say? 747 00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:28,662 I had real reservations about the idea. 748 00:30:28,704 --> 00:30:31,457 There were obvious ethical implications, 749 00:30:31,498 --> 00:30:33,250 but also, I didn't want to be responsible 750 00:30:33,292 --> 00:30:36,253 for putting my coworkers' jobs in jeopardy. 751 00:30:36,295 --> 00:30:38,380 But James and Evan made clear 752 00:30:38,422 --> 00:30:39,798 they'd fire me if I didn't do it. 753 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,758 So you did what they demanded. 754 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,095 And they ended up firing me anyway. 755 00:30:45,137 --> 00:30:47,639 And then when they fired everyone else, 756 00:30:47,681 --> 00:30:50,100 they told them that it was my fault, 757 00:30:50,860 --> 00:30:54,028 that I created EVA on my own 758 00:30:54,052 --> 00:30:56,582 so I didn't have to work. 759 00:30:56,607 --> 00:30:59,526 - They made you the fall guy. - Exactly. 760 00:30:59,568 --> 00:31:02,696 And now James Sawyer is doing it again. 761 00:31:02,738 --> 00:31:06,116 I was at home, asleep in my bed that night. 762 00:31:06,158 --> 00:31:08,285 I've never fired a gun in my life. 763 00:31:08,327 --> 00:31:10,704 But your key card... 764 00:31:10,746 --> 00:31:13,165 Easiest thing in the world to clone. 765 00:31:13,207 --> 00:31:14,750 My ten-year-old niece could do it. 766 00:31:14,792 --> 00:31:16,585 Well, what about the gun? 767 00:31:16,627 --> 00:31:18,253 It was found behind your apartment building. 768 00:31:18,295 --> 00:31:21,507 James has access to my personnel files. 769 00:31:21,548 --> 00:31:22,800 He knows where I live. 770 00:31:22,841 --> 00:31:24,968 But according to the detective, 771 00:31:25,010 --> 00:31:27,137 you need a key to access the dumpster. 772 00:31:27,179 --> 00:31:30,057 Half the time nobody remembers to lock that gate, 773 00:31:30,098 --> 00:31:33,519 and even if it's locked, it's not hard to bypass. 774 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,314 I swear, I'm being set up here. 775 00:31:37,356 --> 00:31:39,024 I'm innocent. 776 00:31:40,692 --> 00:31:42,486 No further questions. 777 00:31:42,528 --> 00:31:45,447 [TENSE MUSIC] 778 00:31:45,489 --> 00:31:49,618 ? ? 779 00:31:49,660 --> 00:31:52,371 So... [CLEARS THROAT] 780 00:31:52,412 --> 00:31:53,872 By your own admission, 781 00:31:53,914 --> 00:31:57,251 you had plenty of reason to want Evan Marks dead. 782 00:31:57,292 --> 00:32:00,170 He fired you and made you 783 00:32:00,212 --> 00:32:02,005 the fall guy for all the other layoffs. 784 00:32:02,047 --> 00:32:04,842 And, in fact, you made multiple threats against him, 785 00:32:04,883 --> 00:32:07,219 both online and in person, isn't that true? 786 00:32:07,261 --> 00:32:10,764 Which is how James knew I'd be the perfect patsy. 787 00:32:10,806 --> 00:32:12,766 So we're to believe that James Sawyer, 788 00:32:12,808 --> 00:32:14,226 one of the most respected 789 00:32:14,268 --> 00:32:16,770 and accomplished businessmen of our time, 790 00:32:16,812 --> 00:32:19,356 somehow arranged the murder 791 00:32:19,398 --> 00:32:21,984 of his closest friend and business partner 792 00:32:22,025 --> 00:32:25,988 and then created some elaborate scheme to frame you? 793 00:32:26,029 --> 00:32:28,031 That's who these people are. 794 00:32:28,073 --> 00:32:32,760 Evan Marks and James Sawyer, they're all monsters. 795 00:32:33,745 --> 00:32:38,495 They use honest, hard-working people as pawns. 796 00:32:39,001 --> 00:32:42,713 I'm just one more meaningless no one 797 00:32:42,754 --> 00:32:46,175 easily sacrificed so that James Sawyer 798 00:32:46,216 --> 00:32:50,721 can gain more power and more profit. 799 00:32:50,762 --> 00:32:53,891 And the thing is, guys like him, 800 00:32:53,932 --> 00:32:56,310 they always get away with it too. 801 00:32:56,351 --> 00:32:59,429 ? ? 802 00:33:03,775 --> 00:33:06,069 That was a hell of a performance. 803 00:33:06,111 --> 00:33:08,405 If I hadn't seen Stafford's confession with my own eyes... 804 00:33:08,447 --> 00:33:09,907 I know. 805 00:33:09,948 --> 00:33:12,326 - Good, caught you. - What's going on? 806 00:33:12,367 --> 00:33:13,952 There's something I need you to see. 807 00:33:13,994 --> 00:33:16,371 Is there an office we can go to? 808 00:33:16,413 --> 00:33:17,998 Our offices were in the process 809 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,458 of upgrading our security system 810 00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:21,126 right before Evan was murdered. 811 00:33:21,168 --> 00:33:23,045 So I took a look at one of the new cameras 812 00:33:23,086 --> 00:33:25,380 on the exterior of the building. 813 00:33:25,422 --> 00:33:29,968 There's a direct shot of the ATM where Evan was murdered. 814 00:33:30,010 --> 00:33:32,888 How the hell did police miss that in their initial canvass? 815 00:33:32,930 --> 00:33:34,348 Camera's so tiny, you can't even see it 816 00:33:34,389 --> 00:33:35,849 unless you to look for it. 817 00:33:35,891 --> 00:33:38,060 But it was operational that night 818 00:33:38,101 --> 00:33:40,020 even though it wasn't on the mainframe, 819 00:33:40,062 --> 00:33:42,856 meaning that it wasn't logged into the system. 820 00:33:42,898 --> 00:33:45,818 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 821 00:33:45,859 --> 00:33:49,109 ? ? 822 00:33:52,658 --> 00:33:57,621 That's Ben Stafford, clear as day. 823 00:33:57,663 --> 00:34:00,290 Oh, my God. 824 00:34:00,332 --> 00:34:02,167 We got him. 825 00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:14,373 Hey. You're in early. 826 00:34:14,845 --> 00:34:17,139 Yeah, I couldn't sleep. 827 00:34:17,181 --> 00:34:19,850 Something was bugging me. 828 00:34:19,892 --> 00:34:20,976 Look at this. 829 00:34:26,232 --> 00:34:27,817 What am I missing? 830 00:34:27,858 --> 00:34:29,318 Well, this entire trial, 831 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,154 Stafford has been taking meticulous notes 832 00:34:32,196 --> 00:34:33,906 as people testify, you noticed? 833 00:34:33,948 --> 00:34:37,284 Yeah. Just figured he was... 834 00:34:37,326 --> 00:34:38,828 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC] 835 00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:40,579 Oh. 836 00:34:40,621 --> 00:34:43,165 Stafford is left-handed. 837 00:34:43,207 --> 00:34:45,626 But the shooter in this video is using his right hand. 838 00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:52,216 So what, you're worried the video isn't real? 839 00:34:52,258 --> 00:34:54,719 The defense blaming James Sawyer for Marks's murder 840 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,972 is the top headline in news outlets across the country. 841 00:34:58,013 --> 00:35:01,225 What are the chances that Sawyer just happens 842 00:35:01,267 --> 00:35:04,270 to be the one to find the perfect piece of evidence, 843 00:35:04,311 --> 00:35:07,982 evidence that nails Stafford and clears his name? 844 00:35:08,023 --> 00:35:10,151 I get what you're saying. 845 00:35:11,944 --> 00:35:13,279 He is the CEO. 846 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,156 They got all kinds of security cameras. 847 00:35:15,197 --> 00:35:17,199 But he didn't find the video until yesterday? 848 00:35:17,241 --> 00:35:19,702 I know the timing is convenient, 849 00:35:19,744 --> 00:35:21,912 but it doesn't prove anything. 850 00:35:21,954 --> 00:35:23,372 No. 851 00:35:23,414 --> 00:35:27,043 But given Sawyer's access to advanced technology, 852 00:35:27,084 --> 00:35:29,003 a deepfake video of this caliber 853 00:35:29,045 --> 00:35:32,006 isn't outside the realm of possibility. 854 00:35:34,175 --> 00:35:35,426 So what do you wanna do? 855 00:35:35,468 --> 00:35:39,472 I am going to ask for a continuance 856 00:35:39,513 --> 00:35:43,559 while you get clarity on the video's authenticity. 857 00:35:43,601 --> 00:35:46,645 ITB used every tool they have to analyze this thing, 858 00:35:46,687 --> 00:35:49,023 but the results were inconclusive. 859 00:35:50,649 --> 00:35:52,610 So they can't tell if it's real or fake. 860 00:35:52,651 --> 00:35:54,653 I mean, the biggest giveaway would be here. 861 00:35:54,695 --> 00:35:57,490 For whatever reason, even the most advanced AI 862 00:35:57,531 --> 00:36:00,618 still struggles to render human hands and fingers correctly. 863 00:36:00,659 --> 00:36:04,163 But from this far away and at this resolution, 864 00:36:04,205 --> 00:36:06,040 it's impossible to zoom in enough 865 00:36:06,082 --> 00:36:08,084 to see Stafford's hands in detail. 866 00:36:08,125 --> 00:36:10,878 That could be by design to avoid detection. 867 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,713 It could be. 868 00:36:12,755 --> 00:36:14,507 It could also just be a coincidence 869 00:36:14,548 --> 00:36:15,966 that the camera is that far away. 870 00:36:16,008 --> 00:36:19,095 Yeah, well, the problem is, 871 00:36:19,136 --> 00:36:22,181 the coincidences are really piling up here. 872 00:36:22,223 --> 00:36:23,933 If this is a deepfake, it is one 873 00:36:23,974 --> 00:36:25,851 of the best ones I've seen. 874 00:36:25,893 --> 00:36:28,979 But we just can't say conclusively 875 00:36:29,021 --> 00:36:31,148 one way or the other. 876 00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:32,733 [KNOCKS] Hey. 877 00:36:32,775 --> 00:36:35,361 So, um, Riley and Shaw went back out 878 00:36:35,403 --> 00:36:36,779 to the VenZip offices. 879 00:36:36,821 --> 00:36:38,989 They confirmed that there is, in fact, 880 00:36:39,031 --> 00:36:41,867 a camera on the exterior of the building facing the ATM. 881 00:36:41,909 --> 00:36:44,704 Is there any way to verify how long that camera 882 00:36:44,745 --> 00:36:46,163 has actually been there? 883 00:36:46,205 --> 00:36:49,458 There is documentation alleging when it was installed, 884 00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:53,144 but that would be easier to manufacture 885 00:36:53,169 --> 00:36:54,213 than a video, so... 886 00:36:54,255 --> 00:36:56,716 - So no. - Correct. 887 00:36:56,757 --> 00:37:01,512 Which means we don't actually know that it's false. 888 00:37:01,554 --> 00:37:04,724 We don't know that it's real, either. 889 00:37:04,765 --> 00:37:09,640 If we don't present the video, can we win? 890 00:37:09,937 --> 00:37:11,313 I'm not sure. 891 00:37:11,355 --> 00:37:14,358 It's a circumstantial case with an unlikable victim. 892 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,363 And a likable defendant who acts like he's the victim. 893 00:37:19,405 --> 00:37:23,159 If the defense wants to challenge the video, 894 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,536 they can call an expert and debunk it. 895 00:37:25,578 --> 00:37:27,455 Jack, we don't know if it's actually real. 896 00:37:27,496 --> 00:37:28,789 It's up to the judge. 897 00:37:28,831 --> 00:37:30,416 He can deny its admission, 898 00:37:30,458 --> 00:37:32,960 or he can leave it up to the jury. 899 00:37:33,002 --> 00:37:35,504 But by presenting it, we're vouching for it. 900 00:37:36,922 --> 00:37:41,218 We are telling the jury we believe it's real. 901 00:37:41,260 --> 00:37:42,928 I know Stafford is guilty. 902 00:37:42,970 --> 00:37:45,514 He confessed, for God's sake, but if we don't start drawing 903 00:37:45,556 --> 00:37:48,476 the line between what's real and what's not, 904 00:37:48,517 --> 00:37:52,438 we'll be contributing to the very problem that could... 905 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,441 hell, if every deepfake video is admissible, 906 00:37:55,483 --> 00:37:57,777 we'll never get another conviction. 907 00:37:57,818 --> 00:38:00,946 All the defense has to do is show some perfectly credible 908 00:38:00,988 --> 00:38:02,990 video that disproves our case. 909 00:38:03,032 --> 00:38:05,785 We have a duty here. 910 00:38:05,826 --> 00:38:09,747 Our duty is to the truth, and the truth, in this case, 911 00:38:09,789 --> 00:38:13,250 is that Ben Stafford murdered Evan Marks. 912 00:38:13,292 --> 00:38:15,628 [APPREHENSIVE MUSIC] 913 00:38:15,669 --> 00:38:18,172 Use the video. 914 00:38:18,214 --> 00:38:21,342 End of the day, it's up to the jury 915 00:38:21,384 --> 00:38:24,804 to determine what the truth is. 916 00:38:24,845 --> 00:38:28,188 ? ? 917 00:38:32,978 --> 00:38:34,271 That's... that's not me. 918 00:38:34,313 --> 00:38:36,148 That's... no, I don't... 919 00:38:36,190 --> 00:38:39,360 Sorry, you're... you're saying that's not you in the video? 920 00:38:39,402 --> 00:38:40,861 Right there. 921 00:38:40,903 --> 00:38:42,488 No, I can see it's me. 922 00:38:42,530 --> 00:38:44,448 It must be a deepfake. 923 00:38:44,490 --> 00:38:48,160 So it is you, but what, it's the video that's not real? 924 00:38:48,202 --> 00:38:50,287 First off, I'm left-handed. 925 00:38:50,329 --> 00:38:51,831 But your right hand is functional. 926 00:38:51,872 --> 00:38:53,666 You can certainly shoot with that hand as well. 927 00:38:53,708 --> 00:38:55,751 Maybe, but I don't, and I didn't. 928 00:38:55,793 --> 00:39:00,172 So this video that we are all looking at with our eyes, 929 00:39:00,214 --> 00:39:02,174 you're saying, well, that's not real. 930 00:39:02,216 --> 00:39:03,801 Objection, asked and answered. 931 00:39:03,843 --> 00:39:05,302 Sustained. 932 00:39:05,344 --> 00:39:07,471 You're trying to make it sound crazy, 933 00:39:07,513 --> 00:39:09,473 but with AI these days, 934 00:39:09,515 --> 00:39:11,016 you can make something like this. 935 00:39:11,058 --> 00:39:13,519 You don't even need to doctor existing video. 936 00:39:13,561 --> 00:39:15,688 You could just make it whole cloth. 937 00:39:15,730 --> 00:39:20,276 So you'd have us believe that your key card was cloned, 938 00:39:20,317 --> 00:39:22,028 that the murder weapon was planted, 939 00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:27,045 and now actual security footage was created from thin air 940 00:39:27,658 --> 00:39:31,287 using technology more advanced than anyone here has ever seen, 941 00:39:31,328 --> 00:39:35,124 all to frame you when the simpler, 942 00:39:35,166 --> 00:39:38,217 the more obvious answer is 943 00:39:38,241 --> 00:39:41,422 that you murdered Evan Marks. 944 00:39:41,464 --> 00:39:43,549 [TENSE MUSIC] 945 00:39:43,591 --> 00:39:45,968 Please, you have to believe me. 946 00:39:46,010 --> 00:39:50,556 Mr. Stafford, why should we believe you 947 00:39:50,598 --> 00:39:54,727 over what we can see with our own eyes? 948 00:39:54,769 --> 00:39:57,519 ? ? 949 00:40:11,035 --> 00:40:13,496 Mr. Foreperson, has the jury reached a verdict? 950 00:40:13,537 --> 00:40:14,997 We have, Your Honor. 951 00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:17,875 In the charge of murder in the second degree, 952 00:40:17,917 --> 00:40:22,213 we find the defendant, Benjamin Stafford, guilty. 953 00:40:22,254 --> 00:40:23,672 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, 954 00:40:23,714 --> 00:40:25,466 thank you for your service. 955 00:40:25,508 --> 00:40:27,218 [GAVEL BANGS] 956 00:40:27,259 --> 00:40:30,118 ? ? 957 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,992 It was the right verdict, put away a guilty man. 958 00:40:52,034 --> 00:40:53,786 Yeah. 959 00:40:53,828 --> 00:40:58,140 But what happens the next time or the time after that? 960 00:40:58,999 --> 00:41:01,460 This job was hard enough when we knew the difference 961 00:41:01,502 --> 00:41:04,797 between real and fake. 962 00:41:04,839 --> 00:41:06,841 But now? 963 00:41:06,866 --> 00:41:09,327 ? ? 964 00:41:09,377 --> 00:41:13,927 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 71532

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