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[Mr. Hutton] There's no hope?
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[Jill] Well, there's always
hope, but, I won't lie to you.
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When the leukemia comes back
post-transplant, it's terminal.
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He's going to die?
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That's my medical opinion, yes.
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How long?
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They're saying six months.
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[inhales] They?
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The oncologists,
the radiologists,
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all the doctors
that we've been talking to.
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- I'm sorry, I wish--
- Six months?
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That's the longest?
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Yes.
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What's the shortest?
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Um... It could be two or three.
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[takes a deep breath]
Let's do this.
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[sniffles]
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Bobby, come on in.
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Have a seat, son.
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I'm gonna die.
The cancer's back.
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I knew it.
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[theme music]
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All right, 10 minutes before the bell,
time for question of the day!
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- Who has a question?
- [all students] Me!
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- Ah, Bobby.
- Yes.
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What happens when you die?
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Ah, that's not a very fun
question, I don't think.
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Well, I'd like to know
the answer, please.
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Cause if you ask your parents
they make it sound like Disneyworld.
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But I know
it couldn't be like that.
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So, that's my question.
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What really happens
when you die?
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All right. Who'd like to
respond to Bobby's question?
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Ah, Cynthia.
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- God help us.
- Yes.
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When you die... First, I'd like to say
that's an excellent question,
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"the best one
we've had this week."
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Next to mine, of course,
about Maxwell House coffee.
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We still want to know,
what's wrong with that last drop?
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Well, I think we agreed, Cynthia,
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that that'll remain
one of life's darkest mysteries.
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Now if you'd like
to address Bobby's question...
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Yes. When you die, things happen
to the body and soul.
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First, the body.
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You get buried in your best suit,
'cause you want to look nice at the wake,
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where everybody comes
to stare at you dead.
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Then, after the funeral,
the maggots eat your flesh,
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leaving nothing but bone.
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This is why you're laid
on your side in the ground.
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So, when you're nothing
but bone, your pants stay on.
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Now, your soul goes to heaven
if you're good, to hell if you're bad.
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There are a lot of different rules
when it comes to good or bad.
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I only know two so far.
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Don't ever smoke cigarettes.
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And don't ever touch a penis.
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- That's very bad.
- [children giggling]
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Thank you for your in-depth
analysis, Cynthia.
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- Now--
- I hadn't finished.
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Well, you've given us
more than enough to ponder.
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Let's go on now to another question,
we still have a few minutes.
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- [all students] Me!
- Ah, Zachary.
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How come grown-ups
never tell us the truth about death?
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[all] Yeah! Why?
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[children clamoring]
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[door shuts]
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[sighs] What's going on?
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My clients went to see Carter,
then they came to see me.
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Now we come to you.
Judge Bone's next.
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Your clients?
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[Carter] Jill, given
the condition of Bobby Hutton,
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it might make sense to put him
into hypothermia now...
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- ...before the disease--
- Carter!
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There's been a lot of
recent progress in cryonics.
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- It's conceivable that 10--
- There's no scientific evidence...
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...that a person can be frozen
and then brought back to life.
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I certainly hope that Dr. Pike
has not represented to you in any way--
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All I've represented is that
it's a genetic possibility--
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Dr. Pike!
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Cryonics is a theory,
it isn't even close to reality.
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I understand that, Jill.
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But the reality is that Bobby
will be dead in six months.
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We're not big fans of reality.
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Well, first of all, its suicide.
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- And, it's against the law.
- Leave the legals to me.
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We're going to see Judge Bone.
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I think we've got a shot,
and we want you to go with us.
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- Why, what could I do?
- Well, you could admit as a doctor
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of Western medicine...
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...that life suspension
is a possibility in our future.
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No, then get a cryonics expert.
I am not--
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We already have seven.
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The A.G.'s office
will have their experts too.
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Judge Bone will eventually want
to hear from doctors he trusts.
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That's Carter and you.
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All you have to do
is admit that it's possible.
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- No.
- Jill, what's the harm?
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If it offers a fraction of hope,
then why not?
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[sighs] I'm sorry, Julia,
but I will not walk into a courtroom
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and ask Judge Bone
to put your son into a freezer.
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- I will not do that.
- So what?
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We should just stand by and watch
the leukemia run its course?
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No, I told you.
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I wanna start some transfusions,
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I wanna start him on prednisone,
I wanna schedule some radiation,
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I wanna maybe then
aspirate the bone marrow...
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You said that it's fatal.
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All you can do with medicine
is buy him six months.
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Forget it, she's out.
We go in without her.
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[door shuts]
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[Henry] Talk to them
about death?
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They're asking about it,
and I don't know what to say!
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The "Bambi is in a better place"
routine doesn't work anymore.
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Well, I just don't think we should
be filling the minds of nine year olds
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with all this talk of dying!
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Their minds
are already filled with it!
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Kids obsess on it!
You can't pick up a newspaper
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or hear the news without hearing
about somebody dying!
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Look at these articles!
"Teenagers today are thinking more
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"about their funeral
than their wedding day.
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"Death and dying is
in the mindset of our youth
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"and we have
got to deal with it."
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Call Father Barrett.
He has a killer afterlife sermon.
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I even plagiarized part of it
for Easter service.
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They're still laughing at him
over the shoe business.
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You're the minister,
you're on the school committee,
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they should be hearing it
from you.
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Have you completely
lost your mind?
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Not completely, Judge.
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You want a court order
allowing a child to be frozen?
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To preserve him, till medical science
can one day cure his illness.
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At which point
you plan to thaw him out.
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Exactly. Leukemia could take Bobby Hutton,
that's a certainty.
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Cryonics could save him,
that's a possibility.
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We're asking the court
to favor the possibility of life
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over the certainty of death.
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Mr. Biel.
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- Do you have a response?
- Actually, er, Your Honor.
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It's difficult for me to even speak.
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The last time
I was called to Rome
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your hospital wanted to take the heart
of an Alzheimer's patient
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and give it to somebody else.
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You denied that request,
and since then, I've learned
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that the gentleman with Alzheimer's
has been made, er,
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the mayor of this community.
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Now I've been dispatched again
because you're endeavoring
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to turn a nine-year-old boy
into a science experiment.
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Let's leave out the sarcasm, counsel,
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- and address the--
- Actually...
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...in this case, Your Honor,
I'd like my sarcasm to be on the record.
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Judge, I admit that this is
a desperate measure.
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Bobby Hutton, in fact,
is also desperate.
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Well, if you want to freeze him
after he dies, fine.
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- But I can't find any way--
- Then it'll be too late!
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Leukemia will destroy his body.
His only chance is to be frozen now!
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- There is a law--
- There's always a law, isn't there?
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If cryonics can offer hope
to Bobby Hutton, let's give it to him.
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Damn the law! This is wrong!
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Cryonics does not offer him
any real hope.
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- It has no chance--
- That's a question for the experts!
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Let's hear from the experts.
Let's see if that hope exists.
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10 o'clock tomorrow. I'll hear
from your doctors. Adjourned!
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[bangs gavel]
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- What's wrong with you?
- Excuse me?
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Pumping up grieving parents
with cryonics?
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- They came to me!
- You're a doctor.
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You're subject to the Hippocratic Oath...
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...the first rule being "Do no harm",
and you counsel suicide.
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They asked me about cryonics,
I explained it, I did not recommend it.
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I did not counsel suicide,
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and your prejudices against
science aside,
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don't you ever charge into my office again
attacking me as a doctor.
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As a doctor,
you have a moral duty.
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The Hippocratic Oath
is about survival, clinging to life.
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That principle is
completely served by cryonics.
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Oh, it's perverse,
it's against nature.
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You want nature, Jill? Here.
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[drawer rumbles]
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That's death! That's perverse!
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Skip the shock tactics, Carter.
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Cryonics is
medical experimentation.
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- The kid is dying!
- Because he's meant to die, Carter!
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- We're not gonna change that.
- Maybe we can!
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Oh, I'm not gonna sit back
while you and your ghouls
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turn a nine-year-old kid
into an experiment for the science fair,
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just so you can sit around the pool
bragging at your coroner's convention!
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You self-righteous, arrogant,
narrow-minded bitch!
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- [scoffs]
- That's right. I said it.
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If you come up with a way
to save Bobby Hutton, I'll back off.
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Until then, how dare you tell me
or anybody else not to try!
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[Henry] By resurrection,
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we don't really mean
the raising of the physical body.
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It's spiritual.
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That wasn't my question.
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Does the soul float up
as soon as you die?
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Or do you have to
go to a mortician first?
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As soon as you die,
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your soul goes
straight to heaven.
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Can the soul go to hell?
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Zach, we don't think of
heaven or hell as a physical place.
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- Grown-up.
- [all kids mumbling] Grown-up.
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- What's going on?
- All right, that's enough.
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The kids don't trust
"grown-up" talk.
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They think
you're hiding the truth.
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We know there's hell
unless you're Jewish.
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Especially if you smoke
cigarettes or touch penises.
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My aunt did both!
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[Henry] Well...
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...kids, there's one rule
across the boards.
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In all religions,
kids go to heaven, I mean...
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you're not old enough
to go to hell!
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Even Catholic hell, which you all know
has a much bigger occupancy.
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Henry!
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Sorry--
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When a soul leaves the body,
can it ever come back?
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I beg your pardon?
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I'm supposed to die of leukemia.
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So, my parents want
to freeze me instead.
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- What?
- It's called cryonics.
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They drain my blood
and put me in a frozen tub.
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When they come up with a cure,
they defrost me and bring me back to life.
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- Is he making that up?
- No.
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His parents
are in court right now.
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So, I gotta know,
will I be in heaven when I'm frozen?
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And then, when they thaw me out,
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will my soul come back to my body?
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The technology for reanimation
is almost here.
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Objection! This man has
no foundation in cryonics.
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He's a medical doctor
who specializes in corpses,
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and he does understand.
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I want to hear
from a molecular biologist.
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not a medical examiner.
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- I'm not just a medical examiner, I--
- Quiet!
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I want you to hear from Carter first.
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My experts will back him up.
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Well, let's cut to it.
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How do you freeze somebody
and bring him back to living?
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Okay, first of all, Judge,
we already do it to a lesser extent.
238
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In operations, we put patients
into deep hypothermia sometimes,
239
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usually to stop blood flow
during transplants.
240
00:13:11,123 --> 00:13:14,919
- So it's already being done.
- Mm-hmm, for half an hour, maybe.
241
00:13:14,919 --> 00:13:18,088
That's a little different than
freezing someone for 20 years.
242
00:13:18,297 --> 00:13:20,591
Once the engineers develop
the genetic technology
243
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to repair individual cells
in the body,
244
00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,180
they'll be able to freeze people
and then reanimate them, years later.
245
00:13:26,430 --> 00:13:29,183
And how long, Doctor,
before this technology exists.
246
00:13:29,308 --> 00:13:30,434
Uh, there's no telling.
247
00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,478
Genetic breakthroughs
are happening every day,
248
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all over the world.
249
00:13:33,979 --> 00:13:36,148
We thought we'd never be
able to cure leukemia,
250
00:13:36,273 --> 00:13:38,818
but now, we could have
a cure in less than 10 years.
251
00:13:38,818 --> 00:13:42,696
And at that point, you could hit
'Defrost" and bring Bobby Hutton back?
252
00:13:43,656 --> 00:13:46,867
I know it sounds like voodoo,
but the day is coming
253
00:13:46,951 --> 00:13:49,370
when we will be able
to revive frozen people,
254
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maybe even 100 years later.
255
00:13:52,623 --> 00:13:54,959
That may scare you.
It scares me,
256
00:13:54,959 --> 00:13:57,461
but the day is coming.
257
00:14:00,464 --> 00:14:01,966
[people clamoring]
258
00:14:02,132 --> 00:14:05,553
Hold on, hold on! Quiet!
259
00:14:05,719 --> 00:14:09,098
If you all talk at once, I can't separate
you from the voices in my head.
260
00:14:09,098 --> 00:14:12,059
Sending a minister to talk
about death, it's outrageous.
261
00:14:12,059 --> 00:14:13,561
They're small children!
262
00:14:13,561 --> 00:14:15,479
Religion shouldn't be
in the schools, anyway.
263
00:14:15,646 --> 00:14:17,940
All right, settle down.
264
00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:20,818
I'll talk to the principal
and the minister.
265
00:14:21,402 --> 00:14:25,489
But let me ask you, do you talk
to your children about death?
266
00:14:25,614 --> 00:14:28,826
- [parents disagreeing]
- Well, don't you think you should?
267
00:14:28,826 --> 00:14:31,203
[parents disagreeing further]
268
00:14:31,287 --> 00:14:33,539
Well, if parents
don't discuss the subject,
269
00:14:33,539 --> 00:14:35,165
maybe the school should!
270
00:14:35,291 --> 00:14:38,669
- [parents arguing]
- It's the fourth grade!
271
00:14:38,919 --> 00:14:41,547
Death is not
an appropriate subject.
272
00:14:41,797 --> 00:14:44,091
My God, these are
innocent little children!
273
00:14:44,091 --> 00:14:45,676
[Parent] They're just babies!
274
00:14:45,676 --> 00:14:47,428
- [Zach] How should we kill him?
- [frog croaks]
275
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We'll put him in the freezer.
That's how cryonics works.
276
00:14:50,764 --> 00:14:52,892
Shouldn't we make him
unconscious first?
277
00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:54,476
He'll be so cold.
278
00:14:54,643 --> 00:14:57,396
Frogs are cold-blooded.
I don't think it'll bother him.
279
00:14:57,730 --> 00:14:58,856
Okay.
280
00:14:59,356 --> 00:15:02,693
- Bye, Ross. See you when you fall out.
- [croaks]
281
00:15:02,693 --> 00:15:06,155
- Will he come back to life?
- He should. It works with fish.
282
00:15:06,572 --> 00:15:08,032
[Zach] Bye, Ross.
283
00:15:10,826 --> 00:15:13,370
- [clunking]
- [croaking frequently]
284
00:15:13,704 --> 00:15:15,080
He sounds bad.
285
00:15:15,789 --> 00:15:17,041
He's okay.
286
00:15:17,583 --> 00:15:20,002
- [clunking]
- I think he wants out.
287
00:15:20,002 --> 00:15:22,087
[croaking]
288
00:15:22,546 --> 00:15:26,050
You know, I have to admit, at first
I thought this was ridiculous, but this...
289
00:15:26,050 --> 00:15:29,762
...cryonic technology,
it could exist one day.
290
00:15:30,137 --> 00:15:31,680
It really shouldn't be a surprise.
291
00:15:31,805 --> 00:15:34,058
Years ago, if your heart stopped,
you were dead.
292
00:15:34,058 --> 00:15:37,186
Now we can restart it,
and revive people from clinical death.
293
00:15:37,186 --> 00:15:39,271
Even brain death
can be reversed, sometimes.
294
00:15:39,563 --> 00:15:41,815
And I've been reading,
they're already, er,
295
00:15:42,066 --> 00:15:45,694
freezing embryos,
and er, corneas,
296
00:15:45,778 --> 00:15:48,280
heart valves, all of which
can be brought back to life?
297
00:15:48,364 --> 00:15:50,908
And in 20 years, we might be able
to do that to a brain.
298
00:15:50,908 --> 00:15:54,370
So, assuming that this
genetic progress continues,
299
00:15:54,370 --> 00:15:58,082
we might actually be able
to cure not only leukemia,
300
00:15:58,082 --> 00:16:01,126
but many other,
if not all diseases.
301
00:16:02,252 --> 00:16:03,420
It's possible.
302
00:16:03,629 --> 00:16:07,174
Huh. Well, what about aging?
303
00:16:07,633 --> 00:16:11,303
Does the genetic potential exist
to reverse the aging process?
304
00:16:11,470 --> 00:16:14,056
Hard to say, but, er...
305
00:16:14,890 --> 00:16:17,309
...given the developments
in genetic technology,
306
00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:21,897
no credible scientist
could really rule out the possibility.
307
00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:25,985
You know, I got a real problem
with getting older, myself.
308
00:16:26,527 --> 00:16:29,738
When I'm 50, I might want
to be frozen to, er,
309
00:16:29,905 --> 00:16:31,907
wait for, I don't know,
310
00:16:32,324 --> 00:16:33,951
the aging cure.
311
00:16:34,743 --> 00:16:37,496
I would do that.
I don't wanna get old.
312
00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,207
[scoffs] You know, Your Honor,
313
00:16:40,207 --> 00:16:43,961
this is so exciting.
I'm gonna stipulate right now
314
00:16:44,086 --> 00:16:45,838
as to all of the plaintiff's experts.
315
00:16:45,963 --> 00:16:49,174
We don't have to waste the court's time
listening to scientists.
316
00:16:49,425 --> 00:16:52,678
"I'm gonna stipulate that one day
cryonics will work,"
317
00:16:52,803 --> 00:16:55,973
and we will have the cure
for leukemia, think about it.
318
00:16:56,348 --> 00:16:58,892
People won't have to die
from disease,
319
00:16:58,976 --> 00:17:01,520
nobody will have to die from old age,
if they don't want to,
320
00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,982
everybody, in either real,
or suspended form,
321
00:17:04,982 --> 00:17:06,984
will live forever.
322
00:17:07,276 --> 00:17:10,237
Nobody has to die!
It's fantastic!
323
00:17:10,904 --> 00:17:12,906
I mean,
if we can eliminate death,
324
00:17:13,282 --> 00:17:16,160
the world will be a perfect place.
325
00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,369
Right, Dr. Pike?
326
00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:18,871
Right?
327
00:17:19,455 --> 00:17:22,124
Look, in the interest
of public policy,
328
00:17:22,291 --> 00:17:25,753
let's put, er,
let's put Bobby in the freezer.
329
00:17:26,045 --> 00:17:28,422
Hm? Let's do it today.
330
00:17:37,097 --> 00:17:38,682
Why won't you help him?
331
00:17:38,849 --> 00:17:40,350
I want to help him, honey.
332
00:17:40,434 --> 00:17:43,395
But I just don't think
that freezing him is help.
333
00:17:43,687 --> 00:17:46,440
But if they invent a cure,
he could live longer.
334
00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:50,027
It's not God's plan
for us to live like that.
335
00:17:50,027 --> 00:17:53,113
To be stuck in liquid nitrogen
and then defrosted
336
00:17:53,197 --> 00:17:55,365
umpteen years later,
that's not God's plan.
337
00:18:01,371 --> 00:18:03,082
I know this is complicated.
338
00:18:04,166 --> 00:18:06,210
But we're human beings, and,
339
00:18:06,418 --> 00:18:08,087
when it's time to go,
340
00:18:08,504 --> 00:18:12,049
there comes a point
when it's wrong to deny death.
341
00:18:12,841 --> 00:18:13,884
Okay?
342
00:18:18,931 --> 00:18:20,557
[footsteps]
343
00:18:22,810 --> 00:18:25,062
- God's plan?
- What?
344
00:18:25,062 --> 00:18:28,065
You wouldn't want the boy
frozen because of God?
345
00:18:28,816 --> 00:18:30,609
No, I wouldn't want the boy frozen,
346
00:18:30,609 --> 00:18:32,736
because that's effectively
assisting suicide...
347
00:18:32,861 --> 00:18:35,405
- ...putting him in hypothermia--
- But you were willing to help...
348
00:18:35,489 --> 00:18:38,158
...Howard Buss die, when he
wanted to give away his heart.
349
00:18:38,242 --> 00:18:40,661
- You supported that idea.
- No, that's different.
350
00:18:41,411 --> 00:18:42,704
Okay. Why?
351
00:18:42,913 --> 00:18:45,290
Well, because that could work.
352
00:18:45,415 --> 00:18:48,669
- Cryonics can't.
- If it could, would you say yes?
353
00:18:50,212 --> 00:18:53,841
- [sighs] No, it's still perverted.
- Why?
354
00:18:55,801 --> 00:18:56,844
Why?
355
00:18:57,803 --> 00:19:02,141
Because he's trapped in nowhere...
I mean, frozen... What?
356
00:19:02,975 --> 00:19:06,520
[sighs] Okay, if he had
taken Howard's heart, he would have died,
357
00:19:06,645 --> 00:19:08,981
but he would have
surrendered to death.
358
00:19:09,106 --> 00:19:10,691
Keeping a person frozen,
359
00:19:10,816 --> 00:19:13,735
suspended, so that you
can bring him back,
360
00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:16,155
he's neither in life or death...
361
00:19:16,155 --> 00:19:19,867
- ...how can his spirit or his soul--
- What are you talking about?
362
00:19:20,784 --> 00:19:22,369
I don't know.
363
00:19:24,246 --> 00:19:25,747
I don't know.
364
00:19:28,208 --> 00:19:32,254
But Jimmy, there's gotta be
some kind of afterlife, right?
365
00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:36,216
And I think that this cryonics
voodoo would preempt that.
366
00:19:37,009 --> 00:19:40,512
You'd be suspended
in nowhere, forever.
367
00:19:40,888 --> 00:19:43,682
You wouldn't be in heaven,
and you wouldn't be on Earth.
368
00:19:44,266 --> 00:19:45,851
You'd be nowhere.
369
00:19:46,602 --> 00:19:48,478
That's gotta be worse than hell.
370
00:19:49,396 --> 00:19:51,982
You really believe
in heaven and hell?
371
00:19:53,150 --> 00:19:54,568
Well, don't you?
372
00:19:55,569 --> 00:19:57,362
I believe in God.
373
00:19:58,447 --> 00:20:02,659
I believe that all of us
have a spiritual thing inside.
374
00:20:03,744 --> 00:20:05,370
But dead is dead.
375
00:20:06,330 --> 00:20:08,999
When you're gone, you're gone.
376
00:20:09,166 --> 00:20:11,001
How can you think that?
377
00:20:11,627 --> 00:20:13,879
How can you, a doctor,
378
00:20:15,172 --> 00:20:18,800
make a medical judgment
based on your belief in an afterlife?
379
00:20:18,926 --> 00:20:22,387
I'm not doing that. I'm saying
that medical science has a boundary.
380
00:20:22,471 --> 00:20:25,474
I don't know where the line is,
but cryonics is on the other side of it.
381
00:20:25,474 --> 00:20:26,516
Uh-huh.
382
00:20:26,892 --> 00:20:28,852
Well, I believe
everyone has a right
383
00:20:28,936 --> 00:20:30,771
to their religious convictions.
384
00:20:30,938 --> 00:20:32,731
But if my son gets ill,
385
00:20:33,106 --> 00:20:35,359
if Zach contracts leukemia...
386
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,237
- ...and there is a cure--
- You would freeze him?
387
00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:41,073
I don't know.
388
00:20:41,281 --> 00:20:44,326
But I wouldn't say "Let him die.
389
00:20:44,326 --> 00:20:47,371
"It's God's plan."
And I would like to think you wouldn't.
390
00:20:49,498 --> 00:20:50,666
[clinks]
391
00:20:58,423 --> 00:21:00,842
- I have an early appointment.
- Okay.
392
00:21:01,009 --> 00:21:03,095
- Have a good day!
- You too.
393
00:21:03,220 --> 00:21:06,139
- Bye.
- [clears throat]
394
00:21:44,011 --> 00:21:45,595
[hairdryer whirring]
395
00:21:56,898 --> 00:21:59,943
I don't want you telling them
about souls leaving bodies.
396
00:22:00,068 --> 00:22:02,029
I don't want discussion
of heaven and hell.
397
00:22:02,279 --> 00:22:04,865
Michael Oslo asked me
to speak to them.
398
00:22:04,990 --> 00:22:07,534
Well, I'm telling you not to.
You too.
399
00:22:07,534 --> 00:22:09,119
I haven't said anything.
400
00:22:09,244 --> 00:22:10,704
It's only a matter of time.
401
00:22:10,704 --> 00:22:12,956
But Michael Oslo was right
about one thing.
402
00:22:13,081 --> 00:22:14,875
The kids think about death.
403
00:22:15,042 --> 00:22:16,877
I'll make sure there's somebody
to talk to them,
404
00:22:16,877 --> 00:22:20,589
but I want it to be secular, that's all.
Thank you!
405
00:22:20,797 --> 00:22:23,300
- Howard, we're in your office. We--
- [door shuts]
406
00:22:23,717 --> 00:22:25,135
Well, never mind.
407
00:22:26,219 --> 00:22:28,513
Do you hear what's happening
about this Hutton boy?
408
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,140
It's grotesque--
409
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,434
Gary, we may have to speak up.
410
00:22:32,851 --> 00:22:35,395
If Judge Bone even thinks
about granting that motion--
411
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,023
- Then we get involved.
- Oh...listen.
412
00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:42,652
You picked a fine time to get caught
with your Imdela Marcos collection.
413
00:22:42,778 --> 00:22:44,237
Now, don't you start.
414
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,448
The problem is we don't
415
00:22:46,448 --> 00:22:49,117
have any real credibility
on this afterlife issue.
416
00:22:49,242 --> 00:22:51,745
Oh, we can preach all we want,
but they know,
417
00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:54,790
in the end, we're just guessing.
418
00:22:55,082 --> 00:22:56,583
Like everybody else.
419
00:22:59,544 --> 00:23:01,004
I don't wanna die,
420
00:23:01,129 --> 00:23:03,423
but according to the doctors,
421
00:23:03,507 --> 00:23:05,092
I guess I'm gonna.
422
00:23:05,717 --> 00:23:08,970
Must be scary to think of getting stuck
in an icebox, though.
423
00:23:09,137 --> 00:23:11,306
But I'm more scared
of being dead forever.
424
00:23:11,598 --> 00:23:13,517
- Why?
- Well...
425
00:23:13,517 --> 00:23:15,602
...even if heaven is a great place,
426
00:23:15,936 --> 00:23:17,479
I won't know anybody.
427
00:23:18,105 --> 00:23:20,857
Everybody I know, they're all alive.
428
00:23:21,316 --> 00:23:22,859
Except my grandfather,
429
00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:25,362
but my mom
doesn't think he got in.
430
00:23:25,862 --> 00:23:27,989
[Wambaugh] Are you afraid
of being alone?
431
00:23:29,199 --> 00:23:32,911
When somebody dies,
we all get sad, 'cause he's gone,
432
00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:34,746
and 'cause we'll miss him.
433
00:23:35,038 --> 00:23:37,582
But, for that person who dies,
434
00:23:37,791 --> 00:23:39,042
it's worse.
435
00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:41,169
He loses everybody.
436
00:23:41,378 --> 00:23:43,839
He has to miss everybody,
all at once.
437
00:23:44,631 --> 00:23:46,258
I wanna keep living some more.
438
00:23:46,633 --> 00:23:48,510
I'd like to try cryonics.
439
00:23:49,094 --> 00:23:50,262
Thank you, Bobby.
440
00:23:51,805 --> 00:23:52,931
Your witness.
441
00:24:01,648 --> 00:24:05,318
I don't know much about heaven,
but they say
442
00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:09,489
that you can still
sort of see people down here on Earth.
443
00:24:09,739 --> 00:24:11,575
Have you ever heard that?
444
00:24:11,867 --> 00:24:14,286
Yes, but they can't see you.
445
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:16,621
Is that important?
446
00:24:16,913 --> 00:24:18,999
- Yes.
- Why?
447
00:24:19,249 --> 00:24:22,169
Cause my parents,
they won't be able to see me,
448
00:24:22,586 --> 00:24:24,671
to them I'll be completely gone.
449
00:24:25,338 --> 00:24:29,092
Do you think about
how sad your parents will be
450
00:24:29,426 --> 00:24:30,886
if you die?
451
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:32,971
Yes.
452
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,932
Do you worry about them
being sad?
453
00:24:36,266 --> 00:24:37,559
Yes.
454
00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:41,021
Bobby, I know that these are--
455
00:24:41,146 --> 00:24:43,148
...they're very tough questions,
456
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,861
but I need you to really concentrate,
because the truth--
457
00:24:48,278 --> 00:24:50,447
-it's very important.
458
00:24:52,449 --> 00:24:56,161
Is one of the reasons
that you wanna be frozen,
459
00:24:57,078 --> 00:24:59,456
is it because you're worried
about your parents?
460
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,374
Yes.
461
00:25:01,958 --> 00:25:04,711
Yeah. And if you had to
make a guess,
462
00:25:05,629 --> 00:25:08,089
what would you say
upsets you more?
463
00:25:08,673 --> 00:25:11,718
Dying, or making your parents sad?
464
00:25:13,678 --> 00:25:16,097
Hmm, making them sad.
465
00:25:16,473 --> 00:25:18,099
And the idea of cryonics,
466
00:25:18,225 --> 00:25:20,352
of being frozen,
467
00:25:20,352 --> 00:25:22,145
whose idea was that?
468
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,023
Mom and Dad's.
469
00:25:25,732 --> 00:25:27,817
[Biel] I see. Thank you.
470
00:25:29,069 --> 00:25:30,779
You're a very brave young man.
471
00:25:32,656 --> 00:25:34,449
I have no further questions,
Your Honor.
472
00:25:37,369 --> 00:25:39,996
You want me to talk
to the fourth grade?
473
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,958
You're a psychic. You're on speaking terms
with dead people.
474
00:25:42,958 --> 00:25:44,834
The kids will listen
to what you say.
475
00:25:44,918 --> 00:25:47,254
Have Kenny talk to them,
he's been there.
476
00:25:47,254 --> 00:25:49,923
- Ginny!
- What do you mean he's been there?
477
00:25:49,923 --> 00:25:52,759
Nothing. You got a big mouth,
you know that, Ginny?
478
00:25:53,301 --> 00:25:56,888
- Talk to the kids.
- Have you been dead before?
479
00:25:57,097 --> 00:25:58,348
[phone rings]
480
00:26:01,518 --> 00:26:03,395
I must be sundowning again.
481
00:26:08,608 --> 00:26:10,819
- What was that about?
- Nothing.
482
00:26:11,361 --> 00:26:14,864
Well, what did Ginny mean
when she said you've been there?
483
00:26:18,535 --> 00:26:20,412
Last year when I was shot...
484
00:26:22,622 --> 00:26:25,375
Remember when the Frogman's kid
put a bullet next to my heart?
485
00:26:27,252 --> 00:26:28,920
When they were operating,
486
00:26:29,337 --> 00:26:32,215
for about five seconds or so, I...
487
00:26:32,882 --> 00:26:35,552
I was suddenly above the table
looking down at my body,
488
00:26:35,927 --> 00:26:38,013
watching Jill reach for the bullet.
489
00:26:38,763 --> 00:26:41,933
[sighs] Well, that could
have been a hallucination.
490
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:45,103
That's what I thought.
I asked Jill.
491
00:26:45,312 --> 00:26:48,231
I asked her what she did,
everything that happened.
492
00:26:49,024 --> 00:26:50,984
She described exactly
what I saw.
493
00:26:51,526 --> 00:26:53,778
And I was completely unconscious
at the time.
494
00:26:54,779 --> 00:26:56,072
I think I was dead.
495
00:26:57,157 --> 00:26:58,658
And I came back.
496
00:27:02,579 --> 00:27:07,000
I was up late last night, Your Honor,
working on this this case.
497
00:27:07,751 --> 00:27:12,339
And I couldn't help but think
what a terrible judge you are.
498
00:27:13,506 --> 00:27:15,717
A judge should
always follow the law,
499
00:27:15,717 --> 00:27:17,969
and be above all, consistent.
500
00:27:18,261 --> 00:27:22,974
A lawyer should know what to expect
when he walks into his courtroom.
501
00:27:23,183 --> 00:27:25,018
The killing done a year ago,
502
00:27:25,185 --> 00:27:29,689
you ruled that suicide fell
within the right to privacy,
503
00:27:30,148 --> 00:27:33,610
and you held that
assisting suicide was legal.
504
00:27:34,152 --> 00:27:36,571
Well, with Howard Buss
you suddenly say,
505
00:27:36,738 --> 00:27:39,282
"assisting his suicide is wrong."
506
00:27:40,742 --> 00:27:42,535
You're not consistent.
507
00:27:43,078 --> 00:27:47,082
A lawyer cannot rely
on your rulings, and that's why
508
00:27:47,582 --> 00:27:50,418
you'll never make it
to the Supreme Court.
509
00:27:50,627 --> 00:27:52,003
I'm crushed.
510
00:27:52,128 --> 00:27:54,130
The judges that do
make it to the top.
511
00:27:54,297 --> 00:27:56,049
They worry about precedent,
512
00:27:56,216 --> 00:27:59,344
and how their rulings
will affect the next case.
513
00:27:59,552 --> 00:28:01,221
The trouble with you is
514
00:28:01,388 --> 00:28:04,641
you worry too much
about the actual case in front of you.
515
00:28:05,809 --> 00:28:09,771
Well, right in front of you
today is Bobby Hutton.
516
00:28:12,232 --> 00:28:15,527
He wants to grow up
to play baseball for the Cubs.
517
00:28:16,069 --> 00:28:18,488
He wants to grow up to get married.
518
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,116
He wants to grow up.
519
00:28:21,908 --> 00:28:23,993
The odds are, he won't.
520
00:28:24,369 --> 00:28:28,164
His only hope is this thing
called cryonics.
521
00:28:28,498 --> 00:28:30,125
It's a long shot,
522
00:28:30,375 --> 00:28:32,627
nobody is kidding anybody,
523
00:28:33,253 --> 00:28:34,921
but to Bobby Hutton,
524
00:28:35,797 --> 00:28:38,091
this long shot is everything.
525
00:28:38,925 --> 00:28:41,219
It's all he's got.
526
00:28:42,178 --> 00:28:45,181
I know most judges
will look at the big picture,
527
00:28:45,348 --> 00:28:48,685
and deny the court order.
Well, they have to, of course.
528
00:28:48,893 --> 00:28:51,813
But we're appearing before you.
529
00:28:52,814 --> 00:28:55,650
There's a brave little boy here,
530
00:28:56,484 --> 00:28:58,027
who's dying.
531
00:28:58,528 --> 00:29:00,530
I hope for his sake
532
00:29:01,406 --> 00:29:04,743
that you'll never make it
to the Supreme Court.
533
00:29:15,211 --> 00:29:16,880
Every human being,
534
00:29:18,047 --> 00:29:22,177
when born onto this earth, is blessed
with one thing in common.
535
00:29:22,635 --> 00:29:23,928
A lifetime.
536
00:29:24,554 --> 00:29:27,724
It could be 100 years if you're lucky,
10 minutes if you're not.
537
00:29:28,808 --> 00:29:30,185
It appears
538
00:29:31,060 --> 00:29:33,480
that Bobby Hutton's lifetime
539
00:29:33,730 --> 00:29:36,941
will be about 10 years.
540
00:29:37,692 --> 00:29:40,528
It's a tragedy
that it could be cut so short.
541
00:29:42,197 --> 00:29:44,699
Sitting in a room
with this young man,
542
00:29:45,867 --> 00:29:50,205
how could any of us not be
moved, touched by his, er,
543
00:29:51,122 --> 00:29:52,457
his spirit,
544
00:29:53,166 --> 00:29:54,626
his vitality,
545
00:29:55,126 --> 00:29:56,669
and his dignity.
546
00:29:57,045 --> 00:29:59,380
You don't often think
of nine-year-olds having dignity,
547
00:29:59,464 --> 00:30:01,466
but this young man does.
548
00:30:02,967 --> 00:30:05,178
How unfair that his,
549
00:30:06,179 --> 00:30:08,515
his lifetime could be cut so short.
550
00:30:10,517 --> 00:30:14,270
But unlike in a courtroom,
the laws of nature are, er,
551
00:30:14,729 --> 00:30:16,397
they're very arbitrary.
552
00:30:17,398 --> 00:30:21,778
They strike quickly, often
with no apparent connection to fairness,
553
00:30:22,445 --> 00:30:25,907
and, there's usually no appeal.
554
00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:32,705
Everybody in this room
desperately wants to believe in cryonics.
555
00:30:32,872 --> 00:30:36,376
If it'll give Bobby life,
then damn it, let it be true.
556
00:30:36,376 --> 00:30:38,086
But we all know better.
557
00:30:38,628 --> 00:30:43,091
Despite the microscopic hope
that Mr. Wambaugh speaks of,
558
00:30:43,591 --> 00:30:46,970
we know that once
we freeze this boy
559
00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:49,889
to the extent his organs
no longer function,
560
00:30:50,557 --> 00:30:51,766
he will be dead.
561
00:30:53,059 --> 00:30:54,352
Dead forever.
562
00:30:55,770 --> 00:30:57,730
That's not just a likely scenario,
563
00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:00,191
it is as close to a certainty
564
00:31:01,150 --> 00:31:02,694
as we can get.
565
00:31:03,361 --> 00:31:04,821
And it's a tragedy.
566
00:31:06,322 --> 00:31:10,243
But more tragic still,
would be to take a lifetime,
567
00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:13,329
that is already
limited to 10 years,
568
00:31:13,454 --> 00:31:16,124
and chop off six months.
569
00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:19,043
Life is...
570
00:31:20,336 --> 00:31:24,173
It is so very precious.
571
00:31:24,465 --> 00:31:26,009
Especially his.
572
00:31:26,175 --> 00:31:28,052
He has a day.
573
00:31:28,887 --> 00:31:31,848
And another day after that,
and a whole week after that.
574
00:31:31,848 --> 00:31:36,019
Then another week, and another.
He has six whole months,
575
00:31:36,895 --> 00:31:38,646
to be with his family,
576
00:31:39,522 --> 00:31:40,732
to love them,
577
00:31:42,358 --> 00:31:43,610
to be loved.
578
00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:46,863
Six months
579
00:31:48,197 --> 00:31:49,782
for Bobby Hutton,
580
00:31:49,866 --> 00:31:53,369
that is his lifetime.
581
00:31:53,578 --> 00:31:56,456
How dare we,
in the name of science,
582
00:31:56,456 --> 00:31:58,750
in the name of progress,
and most of all,
583
00:31:58,750 --> 00:32:03,296
in the name of God, how dare we
take that away from him?
584
00:32:13,222 --> 00:32:15,183
It was reckless disregard
for life.
585
00:32:15,183 --> 00:32:18,061
I'm surprised at both of you.
How do you think he felt?
586
00:32:18,061 --> 00:32:19,896
- Cold?
- It was cruel,
587
00:32:19,896 --> 00:32:21,564
and so was shellacking him...
588
00:32:21,648 --> 00:32:23,650
...that's very disrespectful.
589
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:26,152
- It was a tribute.
- A tribute?
590
00:32:26,152 --> 00:32:29,155
Well, I'm sure he'd be so honored
if only you hadn't murdered him!
591
00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:31,908
We thought if we could
freeze him and thaw him out,
592
00:32:32,033 --> 00:32:34,410
we'd learn stuff that'd
help all frog kind.
593
00:32:34,619 --> 00:32:36,496
Well, I think the way
to help frog kind
594
00:32:36,496 --> 00:32:39,540
is to show a little respect
for each frog's life!
595
00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:42,085
That's Ross.
596
00:32:42,752 --> 00:32:46,089
We asked for volunteers.
He jumped.
597
00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:49,801
[sighs]
598
00:32:51,177 --> 00:32:52,720
[Bailiff] All rise!
599
00:33:01,646 --> 00:33:02,772
Be seated.
600
00:33:08,778 --> 00:33:10,113
Every so often,
601
00:33:11,072 --> 00:33:14,867
a judge gets a case where the law
doesn't really help him at all.
602
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:21,791
I find myself not interpreting
rules or statutes,
603
00:33:23,209 --> 00:33:25,294
but rather, gauging,
604
00:33:26,129 --> 00:33:31,050
then trying to reflect
the values of the community.
605
00:33:32,301 --> 00:33:33,636
But on this one,
606
00:33:35,054 --> 00:33:38,266
I'm going to do something
I've never done before.
607
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:41,644
Not that it will control my ruling,
608
00:33:42,145 --> 00:33:47,483
but, since I have a decent
cross-section of society in this room,
609
00:33:47,734 --> 00:33:50,570
I'm going to ask for a show of hands.
610
00:33:51,738 --> 00:33:53,322
For my own education.
611
00:33:54,449 --> 00:33:56,826
How many here think Bobby Hutton
612
00:33:57,118 --> 00:34:01,247
should be permitted
to be frozen, if that is his wish,
613
00:34:01,414 --> 00:34:03,041
please raise your hands.
614
00:34:07,545 --> 00:34:10,339
And how many
find the notion offensive?
615
00:34:14,552 --> 00:34:15,678
All right.
616
00:34:16,888 --> 00:34:18,306
Thank you.
617
00:34:19,015 --> 00:34:20,850
Excuse me, Your Honor.
618
00:34:21,517 --> 00:34:25,938
With the court's permission,
I'd like to say what I find offensive.
619
00:34:26,147 --> 00:34:28,399
It's the fallacy
that people in this country
620
00:34:28,483 --> 00:34:32,570
have a right to privacy
and self-determination.
621
00:34:33,154 --> 00:34:34,739
It's a big lie!
622
00:34:35,031 --> 00:34:36,908
What's your problem, Howard?
623
00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:42,789
My problem is they say freedom
means nothing left to lose.
624
00:34:43,331 --> 00:34:45,374
Well, that boy is terminal.
625
00:34:45,666 --> 00:34:48,669
He has almost nothing left to lose,
and he's still not free
626
00:34:48,753 --> 00:34:52,048
to take whatever measures
he wants to save his life.
627
00:34:52,423 --> 00:34:56,010
Even when those measures
threaten nobody but himself.
628
00:34:57,220 --> 00:34:59,555
If we want to risk death
629
00:34:59,889 --> 00:35:02,266
to save our lives,
630
00:35:03,351 --> 00:35:07,772
how dare any court
presume to tell us, "No"?
631
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:11,067
Women can have abortions
because you say
632
00:35:11,067 --> 00:35:14,028
it's their body,
therefore, their right.
633
00:35:14,779 --> 00:35:18,449
Why can't the sick and the elderly
get the same courtesy?
634
00:35:18,533 --> 00:35:20,368
We're the ones who are dying.
635
00:35:20,368 --> 00:35:23,830
Why the hell should we have to come
in here and ask your permission
636
00:35:23,955 --> 00:35:26,541
to try whatever we've
got left to try?
637
00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:30,294
You grant us the right to linger,
638
00:35:31,212 --> 00:35:32,839
the right to suffer.
639
00:35:33,673 --> 00:35:36,425
Every other prerogative
goes to society.
640
00:35:37,009 --> 00:35:38,469
I'm sick of it!
641
00:35:38,845 --> 00:35:41,097
That boy's life is on the line
642
00:35:41,222 --> 00:35:44,100
and you ask for a show of hands?
643
00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:48,521
I'm sick of the lawyers
and the judges,
644
00:35:48,521 --> 00:35:50,231
I'm sick of the courts,
645
00:35:50,439 --> 00:35:53,484
and right now,
I'm especially sick of you!
646
00:35:57,697 --> 00:36:00,283
I'd like to lay that little diatribe
on your all-timer's Howard,
647
00:36:00,408 --> 00:36:01,617
but I won't.
648
00:36:01,951 --> 00:36:03,661
I know I have that coming.
649
00:36:04,453 --> 00:36:05,580
Excuse me!
650
00:36:06,414 --> 00:36:09,167
- As long as we're opening up the forum--
- We're not!
651
00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:10,835
But Howard got to have his say.
652
00:36:11,085 --> 00:36:13,838
Maybe there's another sentiment
that needs expressing.
653
00:36:14,130 --> 00:36:16,924
You want your cross-section
of society or not?
654
00:36:17,133 --> 00:36:19,719
30 seconds. Go.
655
00:36:21,137 --> 00:36:23,556
This "right to die" thing,
656
00:36:23,681 --> 00:36:26,058
has mushroomed
out of all proportion.
657
00:36:26,434 --> 00:36:29,645
You know, it's a different
thing to refuse
658
00:36:29,729 --> 00:36:33,482
extraordinary life-saving means,
and being put to death.
659
00:36:33,733 --> 00:36:36,736
I think that point's
already been made, Henry.
660
00:36:36,736 --> 00:36:39,488
Well, I haven't heard
anybody make the point
661
00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:42,200
that death is a natural process.
662
00:36:42,909 --> 00:36:44,493
We're human organisms.
663
00:36:44,785 --> 00:36:47,038
We're put on this earth
with mortality.
664
00:36:47,246 --> 00:36:49,749
And medicine should not be used
to pervert that.
665
00:36:49,749 --> 00:36:51,375
I'm sorry, I have to respond.
666
00:36:51,584 --> 00:36:54,337
- Hold on!
- One thing, Judge. One point.
667
00:36:54,795 --> 00:36:58,132
There will always be new diseases.
20 years ago, we didn't have AIDS.
668
00:36:58,216 --> 00:37:00,134
There will always be
new plagues.
669
00:37:00,426 --> 00:37:02,637
Doctors should try to cure
whatever they can.
670
00:37:02,803 --> 00:37:06,307
If it's leukemia today,
fine, cure leukemia.
671
00:37:07,308 --> 00:37:09,185
Nature and medicine
will always battle.
672
00:37:09,352 --> 00:37:11,938
We shouldn't be deciding
what kind of mortality is natural--
673
00:37:11,938 --> 00:37:13,731
- Now, now, wait a minute!
- [Man] Here we go!
674
00:37:13,856 --> 00:37:14,857
I haven't finished!
675
00:37:15,024 --> 00:37:17,735
- [banging the gavel]
- [all the men yelling]
676
00:37:18,986 --> 00:37:20,821
Stop talking, please!
677
00:37:21,072 --> 00:37:22,073
Hey!
678
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:27,453
We're trying
to save one life here, okay?
679
00:37:27,620 --> 00:37:29,914
I don't give a damn about the...
680
00:37:30,456 --> 00:37:32,708
...societal ramifications
or the religious,
681
00:37:32,833 --> 00:37:34,835
philosophical consequences.
682
00:37:35,461 --> 00:37:37,171
I don't want to lose my son!
683
00:37:38,839 --> 00:37:40,841
Why can't it just be about that?
684
00:37:41,425 --> 00:37:42,677
Huh?
685
00:37:43,010 --> 00:37:44,470
He doesn't wanna die.
686
00:37:49,850 --> 00:37:52,228
What the hell are you
people all doing here?
687
00:37:53,604 --> 00:37:55,106
Leave us alone!
688
00:37:57,358 --> 00:37:59,235
Just leave us alone.
689
00:38:05,032 --> 00:38:07,702
We'll adjourn for one hour.
I will then make my ruling.
690
00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:08,911
[bangs gavel]
691
00:38:09,036 --> 00:38:10,496
[Bailiff] All rise!
692
00:38:18,838 --> 00:38:20,506
Same as before,
your rate's way up.
693
00:38:20,631 --> 00:38:22,758
That little tantrum in court
didn't help.
694
00:38:23,259 --> 00:38:25,344
Forgive me for having an opinion.
695
00:38:26,971 --> 00:38:28,472
A person with Alzheimer's
696
00:38:28,556 --> 00:38:30,683
should know better
than to have a point of view,
697
00:38:30,683 --> 00:38:34,520
only we don't know better
because we have Alzheimer's, catch 22.
698
00:38:35,062 --> 00:38:37,440
I should probably go home
and hug my teddy bear.
699
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,026
- You're angry.
- Damn right I'm angry.
700
00:38:40,359 --> 00:38:42,820
That boy should be allowed
to be frozen if he wants.
701
00:38:42,820 --> 00:38:44,572
Maybe I should try it too.
702
00:38:45,031 --> 00:38:47,992
What can doctors do for me,
except take my pulse?
703
00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:50,745
Well, one thing doctors
shouldn't do is play God.
704
00:38:51,162 --> 00:38:54,206
When a child of nine
gets leukemia,
705
00:38:54,874 --> 00:38:56,876
or when somebody
gets Alzheimer's,
706
00:38:57,001 --> 00:38:59,128
maybe God isn't playing God,
707
00:38:59,253 --> 00:39:02,298
maybe the genetic experts
should get a chance.
708
00:39:02,465 --> 00:39:04,467
In that case, you'd be dead.
709
00:39:04,592 --> 00:39:07,595
I'm not afraid of death.
I'm afraid of dying.
710
00:39:09,805 --> 00:39:11,307
You're not afraid of death?
711
00:39:11,682 --> 00:39:12,850
Are you?
712
00:39:15,436 --> 00:39:17,104
I don't think much about it.
713
00:39:27,615 --> 00:39:29,158
I'm terrified of it.
714
00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:30,701
Why?
715
00:39:31,118 --> 00:39:34,080
[inhales] I don't know.
716
00:39:36,290 --> 00:39:38,626
What if there isn't a heaven
or an afterlife?
717
00:39:40,294 --> 00:39:43,089
[sighs] What if this is
all there is, and...
718
00:39:44,090 --> 00:39:47,385
...[sighs] the only thing
on the other side is darkness?
719
00:39:48,886 --> 00:39:50,304
You'd be all alone.
720
00:39:51,472 --> 00:39:55,101
100,000 years, and that's just
the beginning of eternity.
721
00:39:55,851 --> 00:39:59,647
You'd be all alone in the darkness,
for ever and ever and ever.
722
00:40:00,940 --> 00:40:03,984
Maybe we created the idea
of heaven and hell, because,
723
00:40:04,318 --> 00:40:07,279
nothingness, that's worse.
724
00:40:09,782 --> 00:40:11,450
I'm terrified of death.
725
00:40:17,998 --> 00:40:19,708
[children all chattering]
726
00:40:44,275 --> 00:40:47,445
I represent
the three comatose vegetables,
727
00:40:47,736 --> 00:40:49,363
the potato man,
728
00:40:49,488 --> 00:40:51,740
now a would-be popsicle.
729
00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:56,370
The metaphor for life is food.
Do you see?
730
00:40:56,787 --> 00:40:58,747
- Yeah.
- Food...
731
00:40:59,248 --> 00:41:01,208
...and life, like food,
732
00:41:01,292 --> 00:41:04,587
can sometimes last longer
with a little refrigeration.
733
00:41:05,004 --> 00:41:08,841
"God works in mysterious ways."
I live by this.
734
00:41:09,425 --> 00:41:12,553
- Yeah, I can see that.
- Judge is back. Let's go.
735
00:41:19,435 --> 00:41:20,853
[Bailiff] Be seated.
736
00:41:28,777 --> 00:41:30,154
As I said before,
737
00:41:31,363 --> 00:41:33,949
the law gives me
little guidance on this one.
738
00:41:34,325 --> 00:41:35,576
The problem is,
739
00:41:35,993 --> 00:41:39,038
the boundaries of medicine
are so rapidly changing,
740
00:41:39,246 --> 00:41:40,748
the law can't keep up.
741
00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:43,876
How can I rely on legal precedents
742
00:41:44,001 --> 00:41:46,837
which were made
with no comprehension
743
00:41:46,962 --> 00:41:49,048
of today's technology.
744
00:41:50,007 --> 00:41:54,470
We're learning how to clone people.
Already the technology is here
745
00:41:54,637 --> 00:41:59,558
for parents to go in
and choose the sex of their child.
746
00:42:00,476 --> 00:42:06,607
Someday, we'll able to select
eye color, and height.
747
00:42:07,066 --> 00:42:11,403
One day, we'll have the ability
to make carbon copy people.
748
00:42:11,654 --> 00:42:15,199
And I'm sure,
when that day gets close,
749
00:42:15,574 --> 00:42:18,494
the law will jump in to legislate,
750
00:42:18,661 --> 00:42:21,163
just like it's jumping in today
over cryonics.
751
00:42:22,998 --> 00:42:25,334
The Attorney General says
752
00:42:26,168 --> 00:42:29,088
we can't induce a boy's death.
753
00:42:30,172 --> 00:42:35,344
The parents argue we're
trying to prolong life.
754
00:42:35,970 --> 00:42:40,099
It all comes down
to definitions and rules
755
00:42:40,266 --> 00:42:43,394
where medicine and law
don't agree.
756
00:42:44,687 --> 00:42:47,940
But, what it finally,
757
00:42:49,191 --> 00:42:51,652
finally comes down to,
758
00:42:52,319 --> 00:42:53,821
is the judge.
759
00:42:54,738 --> 00:42:55,990
Me.
760
00:42:58,284 --> 00:42:59,660
Despite the robe
761
00:42:59,910 --> 00:43:02,538
and the impressive setting,
Mr. and Mrs. Hutton,
762
00:43:02,997 --> 00:43:06,125
beneath the veil,
I'm a human being.
763
00:43:07,209 --> 00:43:09,878
And as a human being,
764
00:43:11,714 --> 00:43:14,550
it isn't in me to allow your son
765
00:43:15,050 --> 00:43:16,760
to be frozen to death.
766
00:43:18,137 --> 00:43:20,014
It doesn't seem right.
767
00:43:21,807 --> 00:43:23,267
I'd like to say
768
00:43:24,059 --> 00:43:26,395
I'm governed by a legal mandate.
769
00:43:27,396 --> 00:43:28,606
I'm not.
770
00:43:30,316 --> 00:43:33,235
I'd like to say
I don't have a choice,
771
00:43:34,111 --> 00:43:35,237
I do.
772
00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:39,700
But, my choice is
773
00:43:40,701 --> 00:43:43,954
not to induce his death for any reason.
774
00:43:45,497 --> 00:43:47,541
If he has six months,
775
00:43:48,834 --> 00:43:51,503
then he has six months.
776
00:43:53,088 --> 00:43:55,049
Like Mr. Biel says,
777
00:43:56,508 --> 00:44:00,262
that makes his time more precious.
778
00:44:01,513 --> 00:44:04,516
And we shouldn't
shorten it further.
779
00:44:08,354 --> 00:44:09,438
Bobby...
780
00:44:10,272 --> 00:44:14,401
I hope you understand,
but I'm not asking you to.
781
00:44:15,486 --> 00:44:16,820
I...
782
00:44:20,282 --> 00:44:22,451
You're an extraordinary young man.
783
00:44:23,869 --> 00:44:25,371
I'll pray for you.
784
00:44:28,666 --> 00:44:30,542
I'll pray for all of us.
785
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,005
Plaintiff's motion denied.
786
00:44:35,631 --> 00:44:36,882
[bangs gavel]
787
00:44:41,512 --> 00:44:43,055
[soft music playing]
788
00:44:45,057 --> 00:44:46,517
[soft chatter]
789
00:45:02,032 --> 00:45:03,867
[theme music playing]
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