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Please stay indoors with your windows closed. 2 00:00:22,439 --> 00:00:23,839 You're having dreams? 3 00:00:26,443 --> 00:00:27,736 What are the dreams? 4 00:00:36,202 --> 00:00:38,038 About the Three Mile Island. 5 00:00:47,380 --> 00:00:51,051 I sat and thought about this stuff for years afterwards. 6 00:00:51,634 --> 00:00:56,389 And how even after 40 years, it'll still rear its ugly head. 7 00:00:56,473 --> 00:00:59,517 It was the first step in a nuclear nightmare, 8 00:00:59,601 --> 00:01:02,729 the breakdown in an atomic power plant at Pennsylvania today. 9 00:01:02,812 --> 00:01:05,398 Middletown, Pennsylvania is on edge tonight. 10 00:01:05,482 --> 00:01:07,984 Highways are backed up and telephones are jammed. 11 00:01:09,402 --> 00:01:12,447 The accident at Three Mile Island in 1979 12 00:01:12,530 --> 00:01:17,410 was the worst nuclear accident to ever happen on American soil. 13 00:01:17,994 --> 00:01:21,456 Plant officials say the accident is not serious. 14 00:01:21,539 --> 00:01:24,501 They wanted to keep information from the general public. 15 00:01:24,584 --> 00:01:27,384 The company statements haven't answered important questions. 16 00:01:27,420 --> 00:01:29,547 And they wanted to cover stuff up. 17 00:01:29,631 --> 00:01:33,134 How much radioactivity has already escaped from the plant? 18 00:01:33,218 --> 00:01:34,385 Remain indoors. 19 00:01:34,886 --> 00:01:37,931 Close all windows and doors. 20 00:01:38,014 --> 00:01:41,726 But the world needs to know what happened at Three Mile Island. 21 00:01:42,977 --> 00:01:45,105 And what's happening in your dreams? 22 00:01:48,233 --> 00:01:51,861 People start moving out, and there's lots and lots of traffic. 23 00:01:51,945 --> 00:01:54,572 And then, all of a sudden... 24 00:01:59,369 --> 00:02:00,578 it blew up. 25 00:02:12,215 --> 00:02:15,385 It is an awful responsibility which has come to us. 26 00:02:21,766 --> 00:02:25,854 Nuclear power stations devoted to peaceful purposes. 27 00:02:28,314 --> 00:02:31,025 Nuclear energy is working wonders, 28 00:02:31,109 --> 00:02:34,237 providing a happier world for all mankind. 29 00:02:36,114 --> 00:02:39,868 Is this the future of energy or a recipe for nuclear disaster? 30 00:03:01,514 --> 00:03:06,060 Three Mile Island was directly across from my childhood home. 31 00:03:07,854 --> 00:03:10,982 Only thing separating it was the water, 32 00:03:11,482 --> 00:03:12,942 the railroad tracks, 33 00:03:13,026 --> 00:03:15,320 and a two-lane road. 34 00:03:16,821 --> 00:03:21,117 And it was kind of just a fixture of the community. 35 00:03:24,787 --> 00:03:28,917 The Middletown area was the perfect place to build this nuclear power plant 36 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,712 because of the Susquehanna River being right there, 37 00:03:32,795 --> 00:03:35,465 supplyin' all the cooling needs of the plant. 38 00:03:36,883 --> 00:03:39,886 Unit 1 went online in 1974, 39 00:03:40,511 --> 00:03:45,266 and Unit 2 went commercial in December of 1978. 40 00:03:45,892 --> 00:03:48,019 Three Mile Island reactor number two 41 00:03:48,102 --> 00:03:50,605 went into commercial service just three months ago. 42 00:03:52,523 --> 00:03:56,486 When the towers went up in our community, that represented progress. 43 00:03:58,029 --> 00:04:00,198 I was a very happy homemaker. 44 00:04:00,281 --> 00:04:03,159 I was running a small business. I ran a daycare. 45 00:04:03,243 --> 00:04:05,286 My husband worked on the railroad. 46 00:04:08,581 --> 00:04:12,043 I could see the towers from my kitchen window, 47 00:04:12,126 --> 00:04:16,839 but I had no clue what nuclear power was. 48 00:04:17,423 --> 00:04:20,343 A nuclear power plant is really just a big tea kettle. 49 00:04:20,426 --> 00:04:23,513 Nuclear fuel and a chain reaction produces heat. 50 00:04:23,596 --> 00:04:26,975 The heat turns water to steam. The steam moves turbines. 51 00:04:27,058 --> 00:04:29,185 The turbines produce electricity. 52 00:04:29,269 --> 00:04:33,106 Nuclear energy was promoted as the next best thing. 53 00:04:33,189 --> 00:04:36,859 It was gonna bring in jobs, and it's gonna be so cheap. 54 00:04:36,943 --> 00:04:42,532 There was no thought about radiation, or the dangers, or anything. 55 00:04:42,615 --> 00:04:44,784 I never even thought about it. 56 00:04:45,285 --> 00:04:47,453 For a community like ours 57 00:04:47,537 --> 00:04:50,999 that was feeling the negative impacts of the demise of coal and steel, 58 00:04:51,082 --> 00:04:53,918 you had an industry coming to our community 59 00:04:54,002 --> 00:04:56,170 that employed a lot of people, paid well... 60 00:04:58,256 --> 00:05:00,466 Gas shortages are currently being experienced 61 00:05:00,550 --> 00:05:02,844 by car owners across the country. 62 00:05:03,344 --> 00:05:07,390 Dependence on foreign oil threatens our economic independence. 63 00:05:07,473 --> 00:05:09,976 If you look at what's going on nationally, 64 00:05:10,059 --> 00:05:12,562 nuclear appeared to be the answer. 65 00:05:13,271 --> 00:05:17,025 This is the power and the promise of the atom. 66 00:05:24,282 --> 00:05:26,909 When nuclear power plants were being marketed, 67 00:05:26,993 --> 00:05:29,203 they were the promise of tomorrow. 68 00:05:29,287 --> 00:05:31,914 You could not have been more pro-nuclear than me. 69 00:05:35,335 --> 00:05:38,421 Yeah, I worked at power plants all over the country, 70 00:05:38,504 --> 00:05:41,341 and I ended up in the power plant up in Michigan, 71 00:05:41,424 --> 00:05:43,509 which was identical to Three Mile Island. 72 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,599 All nuclear power plants are designed to keep the reactor cool. 73 00:05:49,682 --> 00:05:52,643 And the operator, at the initiation of an accident, 74 00:05:52,727 --> 00:05:54,979 can grab his lunch bucket and go home, 75 00:05:55,063 --> 00:05:57,065 and the plant would be safe. 76 00:05:59,275 --> 00:06:03,363 As a result of that, there was a mindset throughout the industry. 77 00:06:03,946 --> 00:06:06,783 "A major accident could never happen." 78 00:06:07,992 --> 00:06:09,369 And I believed that. 79 00:06:10,703 --> 00:06:12,747 But, you know, I was wrong. 80 00:06:24,592 --> 00:06:26,552 I know from personal experience, 81 00:06:26,636 --> 00:06:30,223 at four o'clock in the morning, that is the worst possible time of day. 82 00:06:30,807 --> 00:06:34,811 You're struggling to stay awake. I don't care how dedicated you are. 83 00:06:36,312 --> 00:06:39,816 So the operators were sittin' there, fat, dumb, and happy. 84 00:06:40,691 --> 00:06:41,692 And then, boom. 85 00:06:46,364 --> 00:06:50,076 Every alarm starts goin' off simultaneously. 86 00:06:56,207 --> 00:06:59,460 We have a turbine trip. The reactor is offline. 87 00:07:00,044 --> 00:07:02,004 Reactor coolant pumps are up and running. 88 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:08,344 And these operators are goin', "Holy Jesus, what is goin' on here?" 89 00:07:08,428 --> 00:07:11,180 We're not getting any emergency feed water. 90 00:07:11,264 --> 00:07:14,267 Guys were stabbin' in the dark for over an hour. 91 00:07:14,350 --> 00:07:17,310 Indications on the pressurizer are saying it's getting too full. 92 00:07:17,353 --> 00:07:21,357 By that time, temperature in the reactor was goin' up, 93 00:07:21,441 --> 00:07:25,153 even though the water level continued to indicate that it was full. 94 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,742 Shut down the reactor coolant pumps. 95 00:07:32,243 --> 00:07:34,162 So they decided to shut off the pump that 96 00:07:34,245 --> 00:07:35,997 was making the water level go up, 97 00:07:36,706 --> 00:07:37,915 but it's not. 98 00:07:37,999 --> 00:07:41,169 You never shut down water across a core. 99 00:07:42,503 --> 00:07:44,755 They needed to cool that reactor. 100 00:07:48,885 --> 00:07:52,305 They did not know what was goin' on, and it scared them. 101 00:08:01,564 --> 00:08:04,650 I got a phone call right around five o'clock. 102 00:08:05,401 --> 00:08:08,446 I was told that Unit 2 had shut down, 103 00:08:08,529 --> 00:08:12,575 and that the duty superintendent wanted me into the plant right away. 104 00:08:17,246 --> 00:08:21,334 I had worked at Three Mile Island since Unit 1 first opened up, 105 00:08:22,460 --> 00:08:27,632 but Unit 2 at that time was only operating about three months. 106 00:08:28,424 --> 00:08:32,136 So I just didn't know what I should be expecting. 107 00:08:40,269 --> 00:08:42,813 At that time, operators in the control room 108 00:08:42,897 --> 00:08:46,776 were trying to analyze flows, pressures, temperatures. 109 00:08:46,859 --> 00:08:50,154 And one of the major concerns was 110 00:08:50,238 --> 00:08:53,950 there's no fresh water flowing through the system. 111 00:08:56,953 --> 00:08:58,913 There was no flow across that core, 112 00:08:58,996 --> 00:09:01,624 so the water just continued to sit there and heat up. 113 00:09:05,503 --> 00:09:10,675 Finally, the on-call shift supervisor recognized the relief valve is open. 114 00:09:10,758 --> 00:09:12,051 It's leakin'. 115 00:09:12,635 --> 00:09:14,303 That's what the problem is. 116 00:09:18,391 --> 00:09:20,226 At one point during the accident, 117 00:09:20,309 --> 00:09:23,646 a relief valve opens up to relieve the pressure. 118 00:09:24,981 --> 00:09:27,358 That valve stuck open. 119 00:09:28,776 --> 00:09:31,946 Water is no longer circulating inside the core 120 00:09:32,029 --> 00:09:34,031 and under no circumstance 121 00:09:34,115 --> 00:09:37,868 is the water level supposed to drop beneath the core, 122 00:09:37,952 --> 00:09:41,747 because so easily it can spiral out of control. 123 00:09:47,044 --> 00:09:51,966 So, we shut the valve, and then focus on the reactor. 124 00:09:53,551 --> 00:09:56,971 That stopped the scenario that they were in, 125 00:09:57,054 --> 00:10:00,433 but by that time, we're super-heating the reactor. 126 00:10:03,477 --> 00:10:07,565 As the temperature continues to increase, the core will melt 127 00:10:07,648 --> 00:10:12,069 and create a self-sustaining nuclear reaction. 128 00:10:12,153 --> 00:10:15,948 Extremely radioactive, highly dangerous. 129 00:10:18,034 --> 00:10:21,996 At that point, you're in totally, totally uncharted territory. 130 00:10:22,580 --> 00:10:26,709 Temperatures were soaring inside the reactor vessel, 131 00:10:26,792 --> 00:10:30,504 indicating the potential of a nuclear meltdown. 132 00:10:40,598 --> 00:10:45,478 I heard a really loud noise coming from the plant, 133 00:10:45,561 --> 00:10:48,773 and it was something I've never heard before. 134 00:10:49,482 --> 00:10:51,734 This is the house I grew up in. 135 00:10:52,318 --> 00:10:55,279 The bus stop is right up here at the corner of the driveway. 136 00:10:55,363 --> 00:10:57,448 So it was directly across from there. 137 00:10:59,116 --> 00:11:01,827 As a six-year-old, I couldn't make sense of it, 138 00:11:01,911 --> 00:11:06,457 but asked, "Why? Why do we hear that noise? What was that noise about?" 139 00:11:07,166 --> 00:11:10,753 And I'm being told to, you know, "Come on, stay calm." 140 00:11:11,504 --> 00:11:13,130 "Everything's gonna be okay." 141 00:11:15,049 --> 00:11:19,345 So, I went outside, waiting for my bus to come to get to school, 142 00:11:19,970 --> 00:11:21,722 but I was scared. 143 00:11:22,807 --> 00:11:27,561 I had absolutely no idea what was goin' on across the street. 144 00:11:37,363 --> 00:11:41,575 At about the moment I was tracking the radiation monitoring system, 145 00:11:42,201 --> 00:11:45,287 all of a sudden, I heard a radiation alarm. 146 00:11:47,707 --> 00:11:52,420 I immediately went down the hallway towards the reactor building. 147 00:11:53,796 --> 00:11:56,257 Two technicians accompanied me 148 00:11:56,340 --> 00:11:59,260 so we could get in and find out what was going on. 149 00:12:10,229 --> 00:12:12,940 There was nothing that we could easily identify 150 00:12:13,023 --> 00:12:14,942 as being a cause of radiation. 151 00:12:17,570 --> 00:12:22,742 But very quickly, I noticed a increase in the meter reading, 152 00:12:23,826 --> 00:12:27,747 and overhead were the unshielded sample lines 153 00:12:27,830 --> 00:12:30,833 coming over from Unit 2 reactor system. 154 00:12:32,376 --> 00:12:34,420 They were highly radioactive. 155 00:12:35,713 --> 00:12:41,093 At that moment, it dawned on me that we had a major problem in Unit 2. 156 00:12:46,265 --> 00:12:48,726 We immediately left the area. 157 00:12:49,727 --> 00:12:53,564 One of the technicians ran into the auxiliary building of Unit 2 158 00:12:53,647 --> 00:12:55,399 to clear the building. 159 00:12:57,693 --> 00:13:01,822 And I ran to the office and used the paging system. 160 00:13:02,907 --> 00:13:06,577 We are failing fuel fast. Declare an emergency. 161 00:13:13,417 --> 00:13:15,795 This is Mike Pinzac in the KBO newsroom. 162 00:13:15,878 --> 00:13:18,214 Met-Ed company officials had to shut down 163 00:13:18,297 --> 00:13:21,967 their Three Mile Island nuclear power station unit number two this morning 164 00:13:22,051 --> 00:13:25,054 after an accident occurred within the plant's turbine system. 165 00:13:25,137 --> 00:13:28,265 Officials have been saying that there is no danger to the general public, 166 00:13:28,349 --> 00:13:31,060 and that the situation is under control. 167 00:13:32,019 --> 00:13:35,022 I was still in bed. The phone rang. 168 00:13:35,105 --> 00:13:36,649 It was Governor Thornburgh. 169 00:13:37,149 --> 00:13:40,945 He said, "Critch, there's a site emergency at Three Mile Island." 170 00:13:41,028 --> 00:13:44,573 And I said, "Governor," I said, "What is Three Mile Island?" 171 00:13:48,744 --> 00:13:50,871 We were still getting our feet wet. 172 00:13:50,955 --> 00:13:54,542 We had just taken office 72 days earlier, 173 00:13:54,625 --> 00:13:57,419 and so this event came as quite a shock to us, 174 00:13:57,503 --> 00:14:01,257 because we simply had not anticipated anything like it. 175 00:14:01,340 --> 00:14:04,260 After an initial three or four minutes of press... 176 00:14:04,343 --> 00:14:08,806 There was very little information except that an incident had happened. 177 00:14:09,890 --> 00:14:12,977 We started making phone calls to Metropolitan Edison, 178 00:14:13,060 --> 00:14:16,772 the company that owned the reactor, "What happened? What does this mean?" 179 00:14:17,606 --> 00:14:21,360 Based on what we had heard from Met-Ed, things were generally stable. 180 00:14:21,443 --> 00:14:25,114 This was not anything terribly serious. 181 00:14:26,740 --> 00:14:28,450 We didn't get a lot of information, 182 00:14:28,534 --> 00:14:30,744 but they said they knew what they were doing, 183 00:14:30,828 --> 00:14:32,788 and that things were under control. 184 00:14:37,793 --> 00:14:40,588 The Metropolitan Edison company has informed us 185 00:14:40,671 --> 00:14:44,008 that there has been an incident at Three Mile Island Unit 2. 186 00:14:45,092 --> 00:14:47,052 Everything is under control. 187 00:14:47,136 --> 00:14:50,723 There is, and was, no danger to public health and safety. 188 00:14:51,390 --> 00:14:53,100 Metropolitan Edison has been 189 00:14:53,183 --> 00:14:57,521 monitoring the air in the vicinity of the plant constantly since the incident. 190 00:14:57,605 --> 00:15:00,441 No increase in normal radiation levels has been detected. 191 00:15:02,067 --> 00:15:04,278 How did you determine the radiation? 192 00:15:04,361 --> 00:15:07,406 How would you know which areas are contaminated and which are safe? 193 00:15:07,489 --> 00:15:08,908 - Bill, can you... - Well... 194 00:15:08,991 --> 00:15:09,991 Who's this? 195 00:15:10,034 --> 00:15:13,370 ...the nuclear engineer with the DER. 196 00:15:13,454 --> 00:15:14,580 Uh... 197 00:15:16,248 --> 00:15:20,377 Metropolitan Edison immediately sent people out at the plant boundary 198 00:15:20,461 --> 00:15:21,754 and to Goldsboro, 199 00:15:21,837 --> 00:15:25,257 because the wind was blowing toward that direction, to take readings. 200 00:15:25,341 --> 00:15:27,718 Before we came up here, I got word that they detected 201 00:15:27,801 --> 00:15:31,430 a small amount of iodine... radioactive iodine on the ground. 202 00:15:31,513 --> 00:15:33,974 - What? - Radioactive iodine on the ground. 203 00:15:34,058 --> 00:15:35,059 Iodine. 204 00:15:37,853 --> 00:15:39,813 We were all surprised. 205 00:15:41,231 --> 00:15:44,276 That was the first moment 206 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:49,657 that anyone stated that there had been some radiation released. 207 00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:51,408 I was really angry 208 00:15:51,492 --> 00:15:53,494 because I had gotten up there, 209 00:15:53,577 --> 00:15:57,873 essentially avowed that what Metropolitan Edison said was correct. 210 00:15:57,957 --> 00:15:59,541 Where are the personnel 211 00:15:59,625 --> 00:16:02,836 who are charged with the responsibility of monitoring the atmosphere? 212 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,380 Standing by in our office. 213 00:16:04,463 --> 00:16:06,063 Why aren't they at the plant? 214 00:16:06,090 --> 00:16:08,290 Because we rely on the company's instrumentation. 215 00:16:08,342 --> 00:16:10,902 I'm confused. You're just taking what they tell you? 216 00:16:10,970 --> 00:16:11,971 Yes. 217 00:16:17,267 --> 00:16:19,186 There were rumblings in the community 218 00:16:19,269 --> 00:16:22,773 because some of our neighbors had police monitors. 219 00:16:22,856 --> 00:16:25,275 And it was my neighbor Paula who called 220 00:16:25,359 --> 00:16:28,320 and told me that people are talking about 221 00:16:28,404 --> 00:16:31,031 that there is an accident down on the island. 222 00:16:31,115 --> 00:16:33,867 And I said, "Um, are you sure about that?" 223 00:16:33,951 --> 00:16:36,203 "Or are they misunderstanding what's happening?" 224 00:16:36,286 --> 00:16:38,747 She said, "No, the police have been called down, 225 00:16:38,831 --> 00:16:41,333 and maybe even the fire department." 226 00:16:42,751 --> 00:16:44,378 My kiddos went to school. 227 00:16:45,212 --> 00:16:47,631 My little one was outside playing. 228 00:16:47,715 --> 00:16:50,843 And we were told that everything was under control. 229 00:16:50,926 --> 00:16:52,386 And I believed them! 230 00:16:52,469 --> 00:16:54,513 There was no reason for me not to. 231 00:16:55,931 --> 00:16:57,516 And that's when we started 232 00:16:57,599 --> 00:17:01,687 seeing journalists coming into the community asking questions. 233 00:17:01,770 --> 00:17:05,149 I'm saying to myself, "What's really going on down there?" 234 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,157 I got a phone call from Rolling Stone 235 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,951 asking if I want to cover the accident at Three Mile Island. 236 00:17:16,035 --> 00:17:18,245 I said, "Boy, this is great. Fantastic." 237 00:17:19,371 --> 00:17:23,375 I was 25 years old, and it was a big opportunity at the time. 238 00:17:25,961 --> 00:17:30,090 People were terrified about the possible dangers of nuclear power. 239 00:17:30,174 --> 00:17:31,842 Because at that point, 240 00:17:31,925 --> 00:17:35,012 everybody's hearing stories about The China Syndrome, 241 00:17:35,095 --> 00:17:38,974 which was the big movie of the time that came out 12 days before the accident. 242 00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:40,559 The China Syndrome. 243 00:17:40,642 --> 00:17:44,772 Today, only a handful of people know what it means, and they're scared. 244 00:17:44,855 --> 00:17:47,274 Now at theaters everywhere. 245 00:17:47,357 --> 00:17:52,696 The movie predicted parallels to the event going on at Three Mile Island, 246 00:17:52,780 --> 00:17:54,490 which was completely eerie. 247 00:17:59,745 --> 00:18:01,872 - What do we got, turbine trip? - Yeah. 248 00:18:01,955 --> 00:18:04,458 The movie was about a nuclear power plant 249 00:18:04,541 --> 00:18:09,004 where the accident caused literally something called the China Syndrome. 250 00:18:09,088 --> 00:18:12,508 If that's true, then we came very close to the China Syndrome. 251 00:18:12,591 --> 00:18:13,842 The what? 252 00:18:14,426 --> 00:18:17,262 If the core is exposed for whatever reason, 253 00:18:17,346 --> 00:18:20,641 the fuel heats beyond core heat tolerance in minutes, 254 00:18:20,724 --> 00:18:25,270 and it melts down through the bottom of the plant, theoretically to China. 255 00:18:25,354 --> 00:18:29,566 But it blasts into the atmosphere and sends out clouds of radioactivity. 256 00:18:29,650 --> 00:18:33,195 Render an area the size of Pennsylvania permanently uninhabitable. 257 00:18:34,029 --> 00:18:36,365 The fact that we're in Pennsylvania 258 00:18:36,448 --> 00:18:38,909 at a nuclear power plant when this is happening, 259 00:18:38,992 --> 00:18:42,121 people didn't understand how it could be so coincidental. 260 00:18:44,998 --> 00:18:47,126 The movie was prophetic. 261 00:18:48,085 --> 00:18:52,923 And it brought into the vernacular the concept of a core meltdown. 262 00:18:53,006 --> 00:18:56,969 The concept that a reactor is potentially unstable. 263 00:18:57,761 --> 00:18:59,847 People had never heard that before. 264 00:18:59,930 --> 00:19:02,057 When The China Syndrome came out, 265 00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:04,935 there was a loud cry from the nuclear industry 266 00:19:05,018 --> 00:19:06,937 that this could never happen. 267 00:19:07,521 --> 00:19:10,774 And within 12 days, people found out that it could. 268 00:19:41,305 --> 00:19:45,309 There was a large thud heard in the control room. 269 00:19:45,934 --> 00:19:50,314 And at the same time a pressure spike in the containment building, 270 00:19:50,898 --> 00:19:52,441 but it came straight down. 271 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,197 There was not a lot of understanding of what it was. 272 00:19:58,780 --> 00:20:00,782 But the first reaction to it 273 00:20:00,866 --> 00:20:06,538 was to see if any operating equipment inside containment had failed. 274 00:20:07,456 --> 00:20:12,211 A quick check by the operators identified that everything was running normal. 275 00:20:12,294 --> 00:20:15,589 "There's no sense worrying about it now. Let's move on." 276 00:20:19,218 --> 00:20:23,889 Within the next hour, radioactivity was getting into the control room. 277 00:20:31,271 --> 00:20:34,149 Everything just kept deteriorating. 278 00:20:35,317 --> 00:20:37,110 People were having to wear a mask 279 00:20:37,194 --> 00:20:39,488 'cause they had higher boron contamination. 280 00:20:40,948 --> 00:20:43,283 It was a clusterfuck in the control room. 281 00:20:53,585 --> 00:20:57,756 At that point, I was focused entirely on, 282 00:20:57,839 --> 00:21:01,385 "Are we releasing radiation to the general public?" 283 00:21:02,135 --> 00:21:03,637 But we had no idea. 284 00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:17,567 Radiation has been recorded as far as 16 miles away 285 00:21:17,651 --> 00:21:19,069 from Three Mile Island, 286 00:21:19,152 --> 00:21:20,946 though federal investigators insist 287 00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:24,032 that the levels are not high enough to threaten human health. 288 00:21:24,116 --> 00:21:26,702 Officials are worried, however, that higher quantities 289 00:21:26,785 --> 00:21:29,830 recorded at the power plant's north gate could be dangerous. 290 00:21:31,331 --> 00:21:32,958 Why was there such a delay 291 00:21:33,041 --> 00:21:35,961 in notifying the community that there was a problem at the plant? 292 00:21:36,044 --> 00:21:37,462 I don't think there was a delay... 293 00:21:37,546 --> 00:21:39,946 It happened at 4 o'clock. They were notified at 9. 294 00:21:40,007 --> 00:21:43,051 I don't think the general public was in danger at any point 295 00:21:43,135 --> 00:21:45,595 throughout the transit we experienced this morning. 296 00:21:45,679 --> 00:21:49,224 From what we've seen, the safety of the plant's adequate. 297 00:21:49,308 --> 00:21:53,353 We're using very sensitive instruments to monitor the area radiation, 298 00:21:53,437 --> 00:21:55,230 and at that point we... 299 00:21:55,314 --> 00:21:56,398 we saw nothing. 300 00:22:01,069 --> 00:22:03,613 We put a meeting together in my office 301 00:22:03,697 --> 00:22:06,783 with the Metropolitan Edison people and Mr. Herbein. 302 00:22:07,784 --> 00:22:10,579 And it was a "come to Jesus" meeting. 303 00:22:11,788 --> 00:22:13,457 I said, "What is going on here?" 304 00:22:14,207 --> 00:22:17,586 The response was, "Yeah, we've been releasing." 305 00:22:18,503 --> 00:22:19,671 Wh... Wh... 306 00:22:19,755 --> 00:22:21,840 "Why did you not let us know this?" 307 00:22:21,923 --> 00:22:24,426 And he said, "Well, no one asked me." And... 308 00:22:25,052 --> 00:22:28,388 Which is just... dumbfounded, just made me dumbfounded. 309 00:22:28,472 --> 00:22:33,143 It was as if this was a guy who said, "This is our business, not yours." 310 00:22:35,312 --> 00:22:39,983 We knew from that point on they were not a reliable source of information. 311 00:22:41,651 --> 00:22:43,251 This is an update on the incident 312 00:22:43,278 --> 00:22:46,198 at the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant today. 313 00:22:46,281 --> 00:22:50,118 The situation is more complex than the company first led us to believe. 314 00:22:50,202 --> 00:22:53,663 Met-Ed officials insist this is not a serious accident, 315 00:22:53,747 --> 00:22:58,085 but they do admit that radiation has escaped into the environment. 316 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,680 How dangerous did the power company say the situation was? 317 00:23:02,214 --> 00:23:06,676 They assured me there was nothing to be concerned about. 318 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,637 Are you satisfied with that answer? 319 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,347 I think we will get better answers. 320 00:23:10,430 --> 00:23:13,368 Do you see any need to start evacuating people out of that area? 321 00:23:13,392 --> 00:23:14,393 No, we do not. 322 00:23:18,063 --> 00:23:19,898 After I get back home, 323 00:23:19,981 --> 00:23:22,734 we were watching TV and what was going on 324 00:23:22,818 --> 00:23:25,070 right down the road from my house. 325 00:23:25,987 --> 00:23:30,033 I remember them talking about radiation. 326 00:23:30,117 --> 00:23:33,745 Radioactive steam has escaped into the atmosphere and was detected. 327 00:23:33,829 --> 00:23:35,622 I didn't understand it, 328 00:23:35,705 --> 00:23:38,834 but what was explained to me was that it could harm me. 329 00:23:40,001 --> 00:23:42,629 You have your family there and all that you love... 330 00:23:43,213 --> 00:23:44,923 We want real answers. 331 00:23:45,006 --> 00:23:47,509 And we want to know what our future holds for us. 332 00:23:47,592 --> 00:23:49,946 There's still questions that need to be answered. 333 00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:51,930 What caused the mishap here today? 334 00:23:52,013 --> 00:23:54,766 And how long will the nuclear reactor be out of service? 335 00:23:54,850 --> 00:23:57,936 The cause will be determined only after the danger has passed. 336 00:23:58,019 --> 00:24:01,273 For now, the crucial issue is stabilizing the plant 337 00:24:01,356 --> 00:24:03,817 as the situation could become much worse. 338 00:24:06,653 --> 00:24:08,029 In the control room, 339 00:24:08,113 --> 00:24:10,907 people were required to put the respirators on 340 00:24:10,991 --> 00:24:12,784 until the alarm cleared. 341 00:24:14,619 --> 00:24:19,332 It took us a while based on a lot of radiation measurements 342 00:24:19,416 --> 00:24:23,795 to get to the point where we felt comfortable not putting respirators on, 343 00:24:23,879 --> 00:24:28,341 but the whole drive then was, 344 00:24:28,425 --> 00:24:31,178 "How do we get to a position of stability?" 345 00:24:32,512 --> 00:24:35,765 It became obvious that we had to get 346 00:24:35,849 --> 00:24:39,895 one or more of those reactor coolant pumps in service, 347 00:24:39,978 --> 00:24:44,441 which were the main source of recirculating water through the core. 348 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,197 However, we had a concern about if it would possibly destroy the pump 349 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:55,160 and do more damage by trying to start it than leaving it alone. 350 00:24:56,244 --> 00:24:58,997 The control room set up a test. 351 00:25:01,458 --> 00:25:05,378 The pump was turned on, forcing flow through the core. 352 00:25:07,005 --> 00:25:11,426 And there was a collective sigh of relief in the control room 353 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:15,722 when the pressures came back to their normal levels 354 00:25:15,805 --> 00:25:18,642 and that was our first indication of stability. 355 00:25:20,393 --> 00:25:25,982 It basically stops the devastation that's going on at that moment. 356 00:25:34,241 --> 00:25:37,911 Throughout the night, dozens of workers checked air samples for radiation 357 00:25:37,994 --> 00:25:40,413 near the accident site at Three Mile Island. 358 00:25:41,665 --> 00:25:44,668 The air samples you checked right outside the container were not lethal? 359 00:25:44,751 --> 00:25:48,088 No. They weren't lethal, no. I'm sorry, I gotta go. 360 00:25:48,171 --> 00:25:50,090 - You have fears of radiation? - No. 361 00:25:50,173 --> 00:25:52,175 No, not at all. I gotta go, sorry. 362 00:25:53,426 --> 00:25:57,430 The radiation level outside the plant has been at a very low level, 363 00:25:57,514 --> 00:26:01,434 and it certainly has not endangered any of the people in the area. Not at all. 364 00:26:01,518 --> 00:26:05,772 Keep in mind, we have 72 nuclear reactors in operation in this country. 365 00:26:05,855 --> 00:26:08,817 They've been in operation, some of them since 1974, 366 00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:11,570 and we still haven't injured a single member of the public, 367 00:26:11,653 --> 00:26:13,071 and I think that's significant. 368 00:26:13,154 --> 00:26:16,408 There has been no technology that man has ever been involved with 369 00:26:16,491 --> 00:26:19,077 since the first time he started to use fire 370 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,829 that can claim any record like that. 371 00:26:29,754 --> 00:26:32,841 I got to the plant on the morning of the accident, 372 00:26:32,924 --> 00:26:35,302 and 30 hours later, I was still there. 373 00:26:37,262 --> 00:26:41,141 We didn't know exactly what condition the fuel was in. 374 00:26:41,224 --> 00:26:44,519 Was the core uncovered? Was there core damage? 375 00:26:45,145 --> 00:26:47,147 That's why we needed the boron sample. 376 00:26:49,941 --> 00:26:52,902 Boron was very critical in the primary system 377 00:26:52,986 --> 00:26:57,741 because boron controlled the reaction that was in the reactor vessel. 378 00:26:57,824 --> 00:27:01,786 So we needed to make sure there was enough boron in the system 379 00:27:01,870 --> 00:27:03,747 to shut down the reactor completely. 380 00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:08,877 Nobody was asked to volunteer. 381 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,462 Ed stepped forward. 382 00:27:11,421 --> 00:27:13,131 He was one of my technicians. 383 00:27:13,214 --> 00:27:19,429 So the concern was that no unnecessary radiation exposure occurred 384 00:27:19,512 --> 00:27:21,848 for any of the individuals that were involved. 385 00:27:25,977 --> 00:27:29,481 We had everything pre-established, how it was gonna be done, 386 00:27:29,564 --> 00:27:33,234 who is gonna do what, no wasted energy, no wasted time. 387 00:27:35,737 --> 00:27:37,822 They were the right people to do it. 388 00:27:46,164 --> 00:27:48,541 There was reports that were incomplete. 389 00:27:48,625 --> 00:27:50,001 Coffee cups sitting there. 390 00:27:50,085 --> 00:27:52,337 Sandwiches that had bites out of them. 391 00:27:55,048 --> 00:27:57,425 It was like the Rapture took place. 392 00:27:59,427 --> 00:28:02,514 There was some radiation monitors that were alarming. 393 00:28:02,597 --> 00:28:04,182 We silenced those. 394 00:28:07,102 --> 00:28:09,854 The Teletector pegged tremendously high. 395 00:28:09,938 --> 00:28:11,356 It was definitely a concern. 396 00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:15,151 You know, you have people that depend on you at home. 397 00:28:17,112 --> 00:28:19,406 We decided we were gonna grab the sample, 398 00:28:19,489 --> 00:28:22,367 and we were just gonna be fast about doing it. 399 00:28:45,974 --> 00:28:49,477 And that's when I sort of became, uh... 400 00:28:49,561 --> 00:28:51,104 pretty contaminated. 401 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,445 On a weekly basis, you're allowed point-three rem. 402 00:29:00,113 --> 00:29:05,201 When my badge was read, it came out to be two-point-eight rem. 403 00:29:05,952 --> 00:29:08,997 Almost a hundred times what you're allowed to have. 404 00:29:10,790 --> 00:29:15,336 It was hours that I was in the shower trying to get rid of the contamination. 405 00:29:20,425 --> 00:29:22,927 And, uh... it didn't work very well. 406 00:29:29,017 --> 00:29:31,770 I was still contaminated when I came home. 407 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,190 I wouldn't touch my kids. 408 00:29:41,780 --> 00:29:42,906 But, uh... 409 00:29:43,823 --> 00:29:44,908 Excuse me. 410 00:29:48,203 --> 00:29:51,706 It's still just a guess, how much he was exposed to. 411 00:29:53,416 --> 00:29:55,418 Boy needs a big pat on the back... 412 00:29:56,503 --> 00:29:58,254 'cause he did it willingly. 413 00:30:01,132 --> 00:30:06,262 And their sample confirmed the boron concentration was way low. 414 00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:10,642 The plant was not in stable condition. 415 00:30:18,066 --> 00:30:21,861 Earlier today, it was very hot and radioactive inside the plant. 416 00:30:21,945 --> 00:30:25,281 One million times more radioactive than normal. 417 00:30:25,365 --> 00:30:28,201 The plant is not cooling down 418 00:30:28,284 --> 00:30:32,413 as fast as would normally be expected. 419 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:34,123 Uh, the cooling down... 420 00:30:34,707 --> 00:30:39,754 It was a very sobering thing finding out how dangerous this really is. 421 00:30:40,380 --> 00:30:43,675 But also we were getting such conflicting information. 422 00:30:45,051 --> 00:30:48,429 And I couldn't believe that many journalists from all over the world 423 00:30:48,513 --> 00:30:50,431 came into our small town. 424 00:30:51,891 --> 00:30:54,018 And a lot of them felt like I felt, 425 00:30:54,102 --> 00:30:57,647 "We're not being told the truth, or at least the total truth." 426 00:30:59,816 --> 00:31:01,192 By the second day, 427 00:31:01,276 --> 00:31:04,279 people realized the press conferences were bullshit. 428 00:31:04,362 --> 00:31:06,966 You saying there's no China Syndrome possibility at all? 429 00:31:06,990 --> 00:31:09,242 I'm saying we don't have any China Syndrome possibility 430 00:31:09,325 --> 00:31:13,246 with the events that occurred at Three Mile Island over the past two days. 431 00:31:13,329 --> 00:31:17,458 And at that point everybody turned into an investigative reporter. 432 00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:18,710 Why should the public believe 433 00:31:18,793 --> 00:31:21,170 that something like this would not happen again? 434 00:31:21,254 --> 00:31:22,922 They all wanted to just go after 'em. 435 00:31:23,006 --> 00:31:24,924 How long was the core uncovered? 436 00:31:26,593 --> 00:31:27,719 We don't know that. 437 00:31:27,802 --> 00:31:29,762 On what authority then do you tell us 438 00:31:29,846 --> 00:31:32,515 that we could not find ourselves in something more serious? 439 00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:34,350 There are no guarantees. 440 00:31:34,434 --> 00:31:37,979 There's no guarantee, sir, that you won't be struck by a meteorite tomorrow. 441 00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:43,985 And if there would be any safety defects, ask the NRC. 442 00:31:44,068 --> 00:31:46,195 I am sure they would take action 443 00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:49,616 to see to it that those things are immediately corrected 444 00:31:49,699 --> 00:31:51,242 or the plant would be shut down. 445 00:31:57,081 --> 00:31:59,918 At the time of the Three Mile Island accident, 446 00:32:00,001 --> 00:32:03,379 I was in the NRC headquarters in Washington. 447 00:32:03,963 --> 00:32:06,466 And the Nuclear Regulatory Commission's job 448 00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:09,344 was to oversee the nuclear power industry 449 00:32:09,427 --> 00:32:12,639 to ensure that public health and safety was maintained. 450 00:32:14,682 --> 00:32:17,522 The Nuclear Regulatory Commission is monitoring the situation 451 00:32:17,602 --> 00:32:19,729 at their headquarters in Washington. 452 00:32:19,812 --> 00:32:22,732 We knew we were getting off-site radiation levels, 453 00:32:22,815 --> 00:32:25,860 but for the first day and the second day, 454 00:32:25,944 --> 00:32:29,489 this chain of very imperfect communications, 455 00:32:29,572 --> 00:32:32,533 with very imperfect information to start from, 456 00:32:32,617 --> 00:32:34,953 basically left people very much in the dark. 457 00:32:35,036 --> 00:32:38,873 Workers said the level of radiation was still not dangerous. 458 00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:42,085 Members of Congress are quite agitated about the accident, 459 00:32:42,168 --> 00:32:45,755 wondering if something like it could happen in their own states and districts. 460 00:32:45,838 --> 00:32:48,007 So there was a quick hearing today. 461 00:32:48,091 --> 00:32:52,804 We knew this was very serious, but in the media frenzy 462 00:32:52,887 --> 00:32:58,518 it was this perfect storm of information being misunderstood and misused. 463 00:32:58,601 --> 00:33:00,144 Things can just go crazy. 464 00:33:00,228 --> 00:33:04,023 How close did we come to a core meltdown, to a China Syndrome? 465 00:33:04,107 --> 00:33:06,150 Could it have happened? 466 00:33:06,234 --> 00:33:09,195 I don't think so. I think we were nowhere near it. 467 00:33:09,696 --> 00:33:12,365 People had all seen China Syndrome. 468 00:33:12,448 --> 00:33:15,618 That immediately is portrayed in the public as "Jane Fonda's meltdown," 469 00:33:15,702 --> 00:33:18,329 which was disconnected from what reality was. 470 00:33:18,413 --> 00:33:21,791 We're going to focus on nuclear power, that almost... 471 00:33:21,874 --> 00:33:25,628 So fear in the community never should have happened. 472 00:33:26,337 --> 00:33:28,257 The NRC told a Congressional committee 473 00:33:28,297 --> 00:33:30,925 that the danger to the public was never serious. 474 00:33:31,551 --> 00:33:35,346 This could be a terrible black eye for the nuclear industry 475 00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:37,765 as a viable energy option for the future. 476 00:33:37,849 --> 00:33:41,936 The Carter Administration has pinned considerable hope on nuclear power 477 00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:44,939 to fill the energy gap during coming years. 478 00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:46,441 The question now arises, 479 00:33:46,524 --> 00:33:49,652 just what will happen to more peaceful use of the atom? 480 00:33:56,242 --> 00:33:58,661 It was 10:00 p.m., I was in my office. 481 00:33:58,745 --> 00:33:59,829 A call was put through. 482 00:33:59,912 --> 00:34:03,666 It was one of the NRC inspectors that I had met during the day. 483 00:34:04,167 --> 00:34:06,794 And he said, "I'm calling from my motel room." 484 00:34:07,295 --> 00:34:10,506 "Please don't use my name, but I want you to know 485 00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:14,594 that I think you've been given a slightly misleading impression about 486 00:34:15,178 --> 00:34:17,013 what's happening in the plant." 487 00:34:17,096 --> 00:34:21,517 "In fact, things are much worse than you may have been led to believe." 488 00:34:21,601 --> 00:34:24,604 "There is much more serious core damage, 489 00:34:24,687 --> 00:34:29,692 uh, and the consequences could be very long-term." 490 00:34:29,776 --> 00:34:31,569 "Months, if not years." 491 00:34:32,195 --> 00:34:33,321 And he hung up. 492 00:34:37,033 --> 00:34:39,494 That framed what happened thereafter 493 00:34:39,577 --> 00:34:44,332 because we now begin to doubt that the NRC that had come on to the site 494 00:34:44,415 --> 00:34:46,542 was actually being straight with us. 495 00:34:58,012 --> 00:35:00,389 Inside the Three Mile Island plant itself, 496 00:35:00,473 --> 00:35:03,309 officials of the Metropolitan Edison, the operators, 497 00:35:03,392 --> 00:35:05,645 and the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission 498 00:35:05,728 --> 00:35:08,481 say the level of radiation is extremely high, 499 00:35:08,564 --> 00:35:10,274 that's inside the facility. 500 00:35:10,358 --> 00:35:14,654 And they confirm there is a continued release of radioactive gases. 501 00:35:14,737 --> 00:35:16,197 In a nearby van, 502 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,244 scientists were analyzing radiation from air, water, and vegetation samples. 503 00:35:21,327 --> 00:35:23,329 At this point, after three days, 504 00:35:23,412 --> 00:35:27,041 there was an increase in radiation going to the public, 505 00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:29,085 and it was actually going up with time. 506 00:35:29,168 --> 00:35:31,337 Not a lot, but enough to be concerned about. 507 00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:34,757 Radiation levels outside Three Mile Island 508 00:35:34,841 --> 00:35:38,970 are no higher than a dental X-ray, according to Pennsylvania state officials, 509 00:35:39,053 --> 00:35:43,724 which they say justifies the decision not to evacuate the surrounding area. 510 00:35:45,351 --> 00:35:47,186 It was the NRC's responsibility 511 00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:50,022 to make a recommendation if evacuation should be needed. 512 00:35:50,106 --> 00:35:54,277 So, we're looking ahead to what might be some trip point 513 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,864 or some significant thing that would call for evacuation. 514 00:36:00,074 --> 00:36:02,577 So I did this analysis at that point, 515 00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:05,621 based on these projections for off-site releases. 516 00:36:07,540 --> 00:36:11,627 I came up with 1,200 millirem per hour, which would be extremely high. 517 00:36:12,336 --> 00:36:17,258 But if levels get that high, that might be a reason for an evacuation. 518 00:36:27,476 --> 00:36:28,477 It's going! 519 00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:30,897 Get up! 520 00:36:33,733 --> 00:36:37,069 Levels as high as 1,200 millirem per hour were detected 521 00:36:37,153 --> 00:36:38,321 in the cloud of gas. 522 00:36:39,363 --> 00:36:40,489 I was shocked. 523 00:36:40,990 --> 00:36:45,661 The helicopter was reporting 1,200 millirem per hour, 524 00:36:45,745 --> 00:36:48,623 and the whole tenor of the room changed. 525 00:36:48,706 --> 00:36:51,375 Met-Ed disagrees with assessments 526 00:36:51,459 --> 00:36:53,085 that the reactor is out of control. 527 00:36:53,169 --> 00:36:56,005 The discussion in Washington headquarters became, 528 00:36:56,088 --> 00:36:58,174 "Is this really worthy of an evacuation?" 529 00:37:02,428 --> 00:37:05,640 If you're evacuating, you're leaving towns, businesses, 530 00:37:05,723 --> 00:37:08,351 homes unprotected, emptied. 531 00:37:08,434 --> 00:37:10,770 The looting opportunities would be enormous. 532 00:37:14,607 --> 00:37:17,818 Even in a planned evacuation, people lose their lives, 533 00:37:17,902 --> 00:37:23,324 children in incubators, old folks on life support systems, accidents. 534 00:37:23,407 --> 00:37:25,868 Okay, so there's a report... 535 00:37:28,621 --> 00:37:29,997 ...evacuation. 536 00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:33,751 Hey, chief. 537 00:37:33,834 --> 00:37:36,963 It was a serious concern because we had to figure out, 538 00:37:37,046 --> 00:37:38,631 "What can we tell the public?" 539 00:37:39,715 --> 00:37:43,469 There was consideration today in the governor's office in Pennsylvania 540 00:37:43,552 --> 00:37:47,431 of a possible evacuation of almost one million people 541 00:37:47,515 --> 00:37:51,519 who live in Harrisburg and other towns, villages, and farms in the area. 542 00:37:52,019 --> 00:37:53,896 I got phone calls. 543 00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:57,400 "What are you doing there? You need to get out of there!" 544 00:37:57,483 --> 00:38:00,194 The Vice President of Metropolitan Edison says, 545 00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:02,446 "Residents have nothing to worry about." 546 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,783 I became very angry at the prospect 547 00:38:05,866 --> 00:38:10,204 of not being able to make good decisions based on what was happening. 548 00:38:10,997 --> 00:38:14,917 All that we love dearly is sitting right here under those stacks. 549 00:38:15,001 --> 00:38:18,254 People within a ten-mile area of Three Mile Island 550 00:38:18,337 --> 00:38:20,047 have been put on alert 551 00:38:20,131 --> 00:38:23,592 for the possibility that an evacuation may be ordered. 552 00:38:23,676 --> 00:38:25,511 It was eerily quiet. 553 00:38:25,594 --> 00:38:30,433 But then you'd have a fire truck or a police car with bullhorns 554 00:38:30,516 --> 00:38:33,561 giving us conflicting information. 555 00:38:33,644 --> 00:38:36,939 Close all windows and doors! 556 00:38:37,023 --> 00:38:40,192 They'd tell you, "If you live in a brick house, keep your windows open," 557 00:38:40,276 --> 00:38:43,112 and then they'd say, "Close your windows." 558 00:38:43,195 --> 00:38:46,824 They were spinning the population up, then spinning them down. 559 00:38:46,907 --> 00:38:49,827 It was, "You may have to run." "Uh, you don't have to run." 560 00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:52,830 At this time, there's no evacuation. 561 00:38:52,913 --> 00:38:56,625 All they managed to do was confuse all the people that lived in the area. 562 00:38:56,709 --> 00:39:00,629 It's a lot worse than what they're telling us. Typical lies. 563 00:39:00,713 --> 00:39:03,049 They ought to close those nuclear power plants down. 564 00:39:03,132 --> 00:39:05,634 What if they come up and told you the truth now? 565 00:39:06,385 --> 00:39:08,054 They gotta cover up something. 566 00:39:10,931 --> 00:39:11,932 And suddenly... 567 00:39:12,516 --> 00:39:17,480 this siren goes off, and it doesn't stop. 568 00:39:18,105 --> 00:39:20,191 You had no idea what was going on. 569 00:39:21,317 --> 00:39:24,945 At that point, Governor Thornburgh was asking the NRC, 570 00:39:25,029 --> 00:39:26,405 "Should we evacuate?" 571 00:39:26,947 --> 00:39:28,866 He's addressing the group... 572 00:39:28,949 --> 00:39:32,912 But there was disagreement within the Nuclear Regulatory Commission 573 00:39:32,995 --> 00:39:35,122 of whether they were making the right decisions. 574 00:39:35,206 --> 00:39:39,168 Let me say frankly, no plant has ever been in this condition, 575 00:39:39,251 --> 00:39:43,297 no plant's ever been tested or analyzed in this condition. 576 00:39:43,381 --> 00:39:45,466 I think we ought to be moving people. 577 00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:47,635 But not yet, I don't think... 578 00:39:47,718 --> 00:39:50,429 They've had two days to get ready, and they're scared. 579 00:39:51,013 --> 00:39:52,681 The government, the NRC, 580 00:39:52,765 --> 00:39:56,185 utility officials were playing Russian roulette. 581 00:39:56,268 --> 00:39:58,270 The future of nuclear energy, 582 00:39:58,354 --> 00:40:04,110 and the lives of millions of people were hinging on the state of that reactor. 583 00:40:04,902 --> 00:40:07,422 I don't know what we're protecting at this point. 584 00:40:08,072 --> 00:40:09,949 I think we ought to be moving people. 51057

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