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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: WEBVTT 0 01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:06.110 But what is the idea of...? 1 01:00:06.120 --> 01:00:07.630 The idea is to make the - 2 01:00:07.640 --> 01:00:10.590 - methamphetamine and weapons. 3 01:00:11.600 --> 01:00:15.590 When you're talking about the business, do never use those words again. OK? 4 01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:19.910 I think you should take care. 5 01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:24.550 Suddenly, he just stood up and said he wanted to show me something. 6 01:00:31.080 --> 01:00:36.870 This is a bug detector. It will detect any kind of bugs that you may carry, - 7 01:00:37.120 --> 01:00:40.550 - or that someone may have put on you. 8 01:00:40.560 --> 01:00:44.590 If you have a microphone or something on you, it will make a signal. 9 01:00:44.600 --> 01:00:47.069 - OK? - Ah, OK. Perfect. 10 01:00:47.070 --> 01:00:48.950 - You were mic'd up? - I was mic'd up, yeah. 11 01:00:48.240 --> 01:00:49.240 - I was mic'd up, yeah. 12 01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:51.790 Try my phone. 13 01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:54.510 Ah, OK. 14 01:00:56.620 --> 01:00:58.300 Here is a signal. 15 01:01:10.240 --> 01:01:12.870 Do you have something RF? Radio Frequency? 16 01:01:14.680 --> 01:01:17.190 I have the car key for my rental car. 17 01:01:17.200 --> 01:01:20.870 I have a small bag on the table. I have my car key in it. 18 01:01:24.080 --> 01:01:26.510 Maybe it's because it takes some signals down? 19 01:01:28.600 --> 01:01:30.830 This is by remote control. 20 01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:33.590 So it was sending a signal to the... 21 01:01:33.600 --> 01:01:37.270 But this is... I sweep it many times. We don't have anything. 22 01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:41.109 Please, do that every time before we come. 23 01:01:41.110 --> 01:01:47.579 So, when you're talking about the business, you have to find two words to talk about two things. 24 01:01:47.580 --> 01:01:51.579 Never use those words that you used before, OK? 25 01:01:51.580 --> 01:01:59.580 You should talk about canned seafood, for example, when referring to something you eat 26 01:02:03.060 --> 01:02:11.060 and when you are talking about the other thing, let's talk about wood handicrafts, made by the native people. 27 01:02:14.980 --> 01:02:20.682 This way, they can never figure out what you're talking about. This kind of messaging is essential. 28 01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:25.990 We are not talking about a small thing. If this goes down, there are many millions going down. 29 01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:28.750 So, also James has to understand, this is not a child's game. 30 01:02:29.200 --> 01:02:31.230 No. I said to him: "Listen..." 31 01:02:31.240 --> 01:02:34.470 To be serious, because it's as easy as this, to do like this to you... 32 01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:36.670 ...I can put a microphone. - Yes. 33 01:02:36.680 --> 01:02:40.350 "Hey, hello, welcome to Barcelona!" 34 01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:44.110 And then you have no idea that you are broadcasting information. 35 01:02:44.120 --> 01:02:49.830 It's good, we need that. Especially the good one. The Russian one. 36 01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:50.990 This is just basic. 37 01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:55.030 That's all, no? We discussed all the issues. 38 01:03:15.140 --> 01:03:16.620 What happened next? 39 01:03:18.200 --> 01:03:19.990 I jump in the car, and - 40 01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:22.390 - then I start to feel bad. 41 01:03:32.040 --> 01:03:34.590 I have a lot of pictures on my mind, - 42 01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:38.150 - and I now I just need to get this off, because it did something to me; - 43 01:03:38.440 --> 01:03:40.590 - it was such a close call. 44 01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:51.668 So, just to be fully clear here, 45 01:03:51.669 --> 01:03:56.308 he was fully briefed on the plans to build the secret factory in Uganda? 46 01:03:56.309 --> 01:03:58.080 - Loved the idea. - Okay. 47 01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:10.588 In Uganda, Mr. James would be the playmaker. 48 01:04:10.589 --> 01:04:11.828 Yeah, okay. 49 01:04:11.829 --> 01:04:13.188 And to have it all on camera, 50 01:04:13.189 --> 01:04:15.428 he brought a photographer who was filming 51 01:04:15.429 --> 01:04:19.760 for a covert video about his life as a man of international mystery. 52 01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:25.160 And the mole, he brought his hidden camera. 53 01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:30.510 - Where's the button? - On the side. 54 01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:33.790 Yes, it's red now. 55 01:04:36.640 --> 01:04:38.670 See you. 56 01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:47.760 So, what happens next? 57 01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:51.430 Then, the North Koreans arrived in Kampala. 58 01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:54.670 Hi, you're there! Good to see you again! 59 01:04:55.160 --> 01:04:57.310 Good morning. Nice to see you. 60 01:04:57.600 --> 01:05:02.830 One of them, he was one of the people in the basement, while I was signing. 61 01:05:04.340 --> 01:05:05.360 Is that...? 62 01:05:05.361 --> 01:05:08.150 - Yes, that's the person we named "Stoneface". 63 01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:11.200 And who is he? 64 01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:16.030 That's Mr. Danny, the international arms dealer from North Korea. 65 01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:17.830 Please come in. 66 01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:21.510 You can walk in here, no problem. 67 01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:24.710 Thank you. Thank you. 68 01:05:26.680 --> 01:05:30.190 I think Mr. James will come shortly. 69 01:05:30.200 --> 01:05:32.990 So we can talk a little ourselves. 70 01:05:33.600 --> 01:05:36.308 Earlier this month, North Korea threatened to fire 71 01:05:36.309 --> 01:05:38.800 missiles towards the US territory of Guam. 72 01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:43.820 This provoked the US president into threats of war. 73 01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:48.510 I read in the news that the DPRK had a successful missile test this morning? 74 01:05:48.520 --> 01:05:50.150 Yes. 75 01:05:50.640 --> 01:05:56.750 I don't have any concerns, I just think that president Donald Trump is a crazy man. 76 01:05:56.760 --> 01:05:57.790 What did he say? 77 01:05:57.791 --> 01:06:03.708 North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. 78 01:06:03.709 --> 01:06:08.188 They will be met with fire and fury 79 01:06:08.189 --> 01:06:10.580 like the world has never seen. 80 01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:20.480 We will continue to launch missiles, until the Americans stop provoking our country. 81 01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:26.870 There you are! Hello. 82 01:06:27.720 --> 01:06:32.270 Nice to see you! Hi. Nice to see you again. 83 01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:37.350 Two seconds. I'll just close here. 84 01:06:39.240 --> 01:06:42.350 The idea was to buy an island - 85 01:06:43.360 --> 01:06:47.350 - and build a weapons factory underground. 86 01:06:47.960 --> 01:06:50.790 So, I've been looking at an island. 87 01:06:52.120 --> 01:06:57.270 This island is perfect. It's in the middle of Victoria Lake. 88 01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:04.590 So if airplanes come down, people on the mainland would not even see them. 89 01:07:07.200 --> 01:07:08.510 Souvenir! 90 01:07:33.720 --> 01:07:36.315 We went there, to check out the island... 91 01:07:36.316 --> 01:07:38.560 How had you found the island in the first place? 92 01:07:39.240 --> 01:07:40.390 Oh... 93 01:07:43.160 --> 01:07:45.070 ...Google. 94 01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:49.110 I found a place where you can buy private islands. 95 01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:53.190 I could get this for five million dollars. 96 01:07:56.080 --> 01:07:59.270 This island is a very good idea. 97 01:07:59.560 --> 01:08:02.830 We construct the factory building, and then, after that, - 98 01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:05.190 - we must provide some equipment. 99 01:08:05.560 --> 01:08:07.790 The equipment depends on the products. 100 01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:11.030 You can purchase from us... 101 01:08:11.680 --> 01:08:15.550 First we can, for example, with the missiles. 102 01:08:15.560 --> 01:08:17.430 Or several kind of missiles. 103 01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:21.550 You bring your own aircraft to our country, - 104 01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:25.350 - under the name of humanitarian aid. 105 01:08:25.360 --> 01:08:28.310 You can bring some clothing, some food... 106 01:08:28.320 --> 01:08:32.150 Then we can load all the contracted items, - 107 01:08:32.160 --> 01:08:35.710 - then you pay money to us, and then you fly back. 108 01:08:37.280 --> 01:08:39.510 We can provide you with everything - 109 01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:42.630 - from small ammunition to big missiles. 110 01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:44.990 Electro-warrior items also. 111 01:08:47.280 --> 01:08:49.870 Radar, all the communications systems... 112 01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:51.750 ...we can do everything. 113 01:08:57.480 --> 01:08:59.630 So we wanted to go out and see - 114 01:08:59.960 --> 01:09:02.670 - if it could actually be used for the purpose. 115 01:09:05.040 --> 01:09:08.710 And before we went there, the real estate man on it - 116 01:09:09.120 --> 01:09:13.510 - said that he had told the people on the island - 117 01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:15.670 — because people lived on the island — 118 01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:18.790 - that we were there to build a hospital. 119 01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:23.030 So the whole village is there to welcome us. 120 01:09:32.480 --> 01:09:34.070 Ah! Thank you! 121 01:09:39.240 --> 01:09:42.148 We are waiting for someone. 122 01:09:42.149 --> 01:09:44.120 Your sister? Your brother? 123 01:09:50.680 --> 01:09:56.230 What I was saying was to introduce you as a friendly party - 124 01:09:56.520 --> 01:09:58.430 - to the people on the island. 125 01:09:59.320 --> 01:10:06.750 Because we don't want them to know about the transaction between the landlord and us. 126 01:10:07.040 --> 01:10:11.830 And this is why you told them that I was there to build a hospital? 127 01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:14.590 - Yes. - OK. I see. 128 01:10:15.280 --> 01:10:18.470 So I need your cooperation, OK? 129 01:10:19.080 --> 01:10:20.950 OK. Now let us pray. 130 01:10:22.520 --> 01:10:26.030 I bless this people in Jesus' name... 131 01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:31.030 This guy, he said to me: "I have told people on the island" - 132 01:10:31.040 --> 01:10:33.990 - "you're gonna build a hospital". I said: "What?!" 133 01:10:35.320 --> 01:10:37.710 "I don't look like a hospital guy!" 134 01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:40.830 My duty - 135 01:10:41.240 --> 01:10:44.670 - is to remove those people from the land - 136 01:10:45.040 --> 01:10:47.270 - without causing friction. 137 01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:48.760 OK. 138 01:10:49.320 --> 01:10:52.670 And how fast can we have them moved? 139 01:10:52.720 --> 01:10:54.670 Maximum is four months. 140 01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:57.750 - That is included in the price, right? - Yeah. 141 01:10:59.200 --> 01:11:01.710 - So this is where they play football? - Yes. 142 01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:05.190 I think there could be a great landing field here. 143 01:11:05.200 --> 01:11:09.430 - Yes, yes, very much so. - OK. Perfect. 144 01:11:10.320 --> 01:11:12.590 OK, that's good. It's good. 145 01:11:12.600 --> 01:11:16.790 But now the situation... America is watching our country. 146 01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:21.510 The US intelligence agencies should not know about this project. 147 01:11:26.280 --> 01:11:28.750 So, the idea is... 148 01:11:29.120 --> 01:11:31.230 — and this is their idea — 149 01:11:31.240 --> 01:11:33.950 - that we should build a hotel above; - 150 01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:38.310 - some kind of resort, and that can explain why we have a landing ground there. 151 01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:42.830 Everything else will be built underground. 152 01:11:44.120 --> 01:11:46.708 I will show you one on the other side and then we are done, 153 01:11:46.709 --> 01:11:48.840 and then you have an idea of all the things. 154 01:11:52.180 --> 01:11:54.988 Did you get an impression that they had something out of the box, 155 01:11:54.989 --> 01:11:58.308 so they had done this before and had a standard plan, 156 01:11:58.309 --> 01:12:02.258 a standard look for disguising these sort of facilities? 157 01:12:02.259 --> 01:12:04.480 They had worked with other people like this? 158 01:12:04.481 --> 01:12:07.190 Yes, yes, they'd already said that. 159 01:12:07.880 --> 01:12:10.790 ”We have the engineers, we have the knowledge..." 160 01:12:10.800 --> 01:12:14.750 It was not a discussion about I should come up with those ideas. 161 01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:19.790 Because, from the beginning, I'm an investor. 162 01:12:20.160 --> 01:12:22.510 "I invest in it; I think it's a good idea", - 163 01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:26.670 - but the architects behind the whole structure were them. 164 01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:28.870 Bye bye. 165 01:12:30.760 --> 01:12:33.150 I was feeling very bad when we left the island. 166 01:12:34.480 --> 01:12:37.230 There lives thousands on this island. 167 01:12:37.800 --> 01:12:41.470 Thousands and thousands they're willing to throw off the island, - 168 01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:44.750 - in four months, if I put down five million dollars. 169 01:12:46.440 --> 01:12:49.000 How can that be done? Was the government involved? 170 01:12:50.240 --> 01:12:51.470 We had a sit-down, - 171 01:12:52.600 --> 01:12:54.950 - established by the broker, - 172 01:12:55.560 --> 01:12:57.310 - with government officials. 173 01:12:57.320 --> 01:13:00.270 I was quite open. I said: 174 01:13:00.280 --> 01:13:04.110 "we want to do something on the island, I cannot tell you what it is," - 175 01:13:04.120 --> 01:13:07.670 - "but we want 100% privacy, we don't want any interference," - 176 01:13:08.120 --> 01:13:11.150 - "and I want that, otherwise we don't want to buy the island." 177 01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:14.310 If this flies, we can move very fast. 178 01:13:14.320 --> 01:13:16.670 We can get the people out of the island. 179 01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:19.110 And we can start doing this. 180 01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:21.630 - Sure. - How does that sound? 181 01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:23.910 That sounds very interesting. 182 01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:26.239 I've been working with the government for the last 15 years. 183 01:13:26.240 --> 01:13:27.550 What is the project about? 184 01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:30.790 Is it going to be a golf resort? A marina? 185 01:13:32.360 --> 01:13:34.150 A health spa? 186 01:13:34.160 --> 01:13:37.310 We want to give back to society. We have CSR obligations... 187 01:13:37.320 --> 01:13:40.030 Then we'll buy some schools or something like that. 188 01:13:42.160 --> 01:13:48.230 We want clearance that we can land planes and take them off from our island. 189 01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:52.990 The aerodrome license can be done, as long as it's part of the investment plan. 190 01:13:54.160 --> 01:13:55.550 This bird will fly. 191 01:13:55.560 --> 01:13:58.310 That's sweet music to our ears. 192 01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:00.750 That's what I do. 193 01:14:00.760 --> 01:14:02.350 Give me an Amen! 194 01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:04.359 Amen, brothers! 195 01:14:04.360 --> 01:14:05.879 We were really crazy as well. 196 01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:08.710 We actually got promised that - 197 01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:10.790 - they could actually - 198 01:14:11.200 --> 01:14:13.630 - have customs protect our island. 199 01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:16.390 Let's pray together. 200 01:14:16.400 --> 01:14:22.110 Heavenly Father, bless our project, bless our ideas. Amen. 201 01:14:22.120 --> 01:14:23.590 Amen! 202 01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:27.560 Thank you. 203 01:14:41.120 --> 01:14:43.908 So, although the true purpose of the project was not 204 01:14:43.909 --> 01:14:45.588 revealed to the Africans, 205 01:14:45.589 --> 01:14:47.268 buying the island in Uganda 206 01:14:47.269 --> 01:14:50.028 and using it for a secret weapons and drug factory 207 01:14:50.029 --> 01:14:53.188 seemed to be right up the alley of the North Koreans, 208 01:14:53.189 --> 01:14:55.360 which was kind of important to prove. 209 01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:00.548 But it did not stop there because, while in Uganda, 210 01:15:00.549 --> 01:15:03.588 the North Korean arms dealer Mr. Danny was ready to take 211 01:15:03.589 --> 01:15:05.748 the joint venture a step further. 212 01:15:05.749 --> 01:15:07.280 Yeah, we can meet in the lobby. 213 01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:09.270 When will you be there? 214 01:15:10.200 --> 01:15:12.750 OK, I look forward to see you. Take care. Bye bye. 215 01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:23.270 You said you had some things you needed to move as well? 216 01:15:23.280 --> 01:15:28.550 Yes, for example, can you can bring our items to Middle East countries? 217 01:15:29.200 --> 01:15:34.630 - This business is with Syria. - Syria? 218 01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:39.670 What kind of items they want there? 219 01:15:40.040 --> 01:15:44.790 - Projectiles. Bombs. - OK. 220 01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:52.910 If you can transport all items from our country to Syria... 221 01:15:52.920 --> 01:15:58.270 You give me a signal and I can go to Beijing and we can meet and discuss what it takes. 222 01:16:00.360 --> 01:16:03.548 North Koreans needing to move armaments to Syria is 223 01:16:03.549 --> 01:16:05.948 actually a very interesting piece of information, 224 01:16:05.949 --> 01:16:08.588 so please allow me to digress a little bit. 225 01:16:08.589 --> 01:16:13.018 Historically, North Korea and Syria have been friends for many years 226 01:16:13.019 --> 01:16:15.988 and the North Koreans were even building a nuclear reactor 227 01:16:15.989 --> 01:16:20.988 in the Syrian desert until the Israelis decided to blow it up. 228 01:16:20.989 --> 01:16:22.458 During the civil war in Syria, 229 01:16:22.459 --> 01:16:25.988 the New York Times published a story about how North Korea was 230 01:16:25.989 --> 01:16:29.480 helping the Syrian regime with its chemical weapons programme. 231 01:16:30.620 --> 01:16:33.348 At the same time, small arms from North Korea have been found 232 01:16:33.349 --> 01:16:35.908 in the hands of fighters from the Islamic State, 233 01:16:35.909 --> 01:16:40.348 but most likely these weapons were stolen from the Syrian army. 234 01:16:40.349 --> 01:16:44.748 So, when the North Korean arms dealer Mr. Danny wants to send bombs 235 01:16:44.749 --> 01:16:49.800 and projectiles to Syria, the end user is probably the Syrian regime. 236 01:16:53.260 --> 01:16:54.588 So what did you say to Danny 237 01:16:54.589 --> 01:16:57.040 when he suggested that you help with the Syria move? 238 01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:01.590 I said yes; I would like to do that. 239 01:17:02.680 --> 01:17:06.990 Then he said: "Then you'll have to go to Beijing" - 240 01:17:17.080 --> 01:17:20.588 Something I still feel bad about is sending Mr. James to Beijing 241 01:17:20.589 --> 01:17:23.120 to meet with North Korean arms dealers. 242 01:17:24.360 --> 01:17:26.828 People who are in the know about the dark side 243 01:17:26.829 --> 01:17:28.720 advised us strongly against it. 244 01:17:30.480 --> 01:17:33.468 Because if the Chinese intelligence service would shine 245 01:17:33.469 --> 01:17:37.880 their lights on Mr. James, it would be another ball game entirely. 246 01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:43.788 But Mr. James is a man who craves action 247 01:17:43.789 --> 01:17:48.000 and I am a film-maker who craves sensation, so he went anyway. 248 01:17:56.280 --> 01:18:00.550 Before I'm going to Beijing, I've been in contact with Mr. Danny, - 249 01:18:01.080 --> 01:18:05.270 - who said he had passed it on to his collaboration partner, - 250 01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:07.630 - and he will take it forward. 251 01:18:09.280 --> 01:18:13.150 Sit down, and, as custom, I've brought you something from Denmark. 252 01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:18.390 One for you, and one for you. 253 01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:22.950 The first day, there's only two gentlemen arriving. 254 01:18:23.360 --> 01:18:28.310 And one of them introduce himself to be the main guy - 255 01:18:28.320 --> 01:18:30.550 - of the weapon industry. 256 01:18:31.160 --> 01:18:32.828 Both men are North Korean. 257 01:18:32.829 --> 01:18:36.668 I know this because sometimes they speak Korean to each other 258 01:18:36.669 --> 01:18:38.640 in the dialect of the North. 259 01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:42.030 Frankly speaking, we're blocked in all directions. 260 01:18:42.040 --> 01:18:45.030 But we're all ready to move forward. 261 01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:53.880 They say 25 workers are ready to be sent to Uganda. 262 01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:01.510 Clearly, the two men are in the know about the island in Uganda, - 263 01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:03.910 - which seems to be a top priority. 264 01:19:04.400 --> 01:19:09.950 If he had bought the island and built the factories, it would be different. 265 01:19:10.360 --> 01:19:13.030 But can they trust Mr. James? 266 01:19:13.040 --> 01:19:17.430 I don't know if Danny has already told you about the business we are doing? 267 01:19:18.200 --> 01:19:20.430 - The weapons, yeah? - Weapons, OK. 268 01:19:21.360 --> 01:19:24.670 He said to me: "We have a collaboration with Syria," - 269 01:19:25.040 --> 01:19:28.350 "But our problem is to give them the armoury." 270 01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:30.950 "Do you think you can help us?" 271 01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:35.430 - Is that correct? - Yes, Syria. 272 01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:38.310 - You have contacts in Syria? - Yeah, yeah. 273 01:19:39.400 --> 01:19:44.710 If you give me a list of the people that you officially cannot contact, - 274 01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:48.910 - then I can contact them, because I can travel here and there, - 275 01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:50.190 - on behalf of you. 276 01:19:50.200 --> 01:19:53.910 May I smoke here? No, outside? 277 01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:55.790 I don't know. 278 01:19:56.120 --> 01:19:57.750 It's OK, I'll go to the toilet. 279 01:19:58.100 --> 01:19:59.910 The toilet is out there. 280 01:20:00.360 --> 01:20:03.890 No, no. It is in there. 281 01:20:04.720 --> 01:20:06.258 Asking for names of clients 282 01:20:06.259 --> 01:20:10.520 and contacts in the world of arms dealing seems to be a show stopper. 283 01:20:28.360 --> 01:20:31.310 He's asking about who our clients are... 284 01:20:34.160 --> 01:20:37.070 He is not someone to trust. 285 01:20:37.080 --> 01:20:39.690 If he has money as he says... 286 01:20:45.480 --> 01:20:50.990 Actually, I was kind of sad when I was in North Korea, it was in January, so... 287 01:20:51.040 --> 01:20:53.430 - Have you been to North Korea? - Yeah. 288 01:20:53.440 --> 01:20:55.110 Have you visited our country? 289 01:20:55.400 --> 01:20:58.990 - When? - In January. I was in Korea. Yeah. 290 01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:00.670 Who invited you? 291 01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:02.870 - Kang. - Mr. Kang? 292 01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:03.880 Yeah. 293 01:21:12.240 --> 01:21:15.950 The second day, we're meeting, then suddenly... 294 01:21:16.840 --> 01:21:21.390 - the one we refer to as "Stoneface" appears. 295 01:21:23.400 --> 01:21:25.960 And what was the power dynamic between these two? 296 01:21:28.200 --> 01:21:33.790 This is the strange thing, because the hierarchy is very difficult. 297 01:21:34.120 --> 01:21:35.870 Good to see you again. 298 01:21:37.640 --> 01:21:40.508 Was the enigmatic Stoneface summoned to Beijing 299 01:21:40.509 --> 01:21:44.748 in order to verify the identity of Mr. James? 300 01:21:44.749 --> 01:21:47.508 He never says a word, he does not even smile, 301 01:21:47.509 --> 01:21:50.668 so we can never know for sure about Stoneface, 302 01:21:50.669 --> 01:21:54.719 but it is safe to say that his appearance made a difference. 303 01:21:54.720 --> 01:21:58.270 We should check everything very carefully... 304 01:21:58.280 --> 01:22:00.999 ...even these walls have ears and eyes, you know? 305 01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:02.110 Yeah. 306 01:22:02.111 --> 01:22:04.639 We are looking for the right person - 307 01:22:04.640 --> 01:22:07.759 - who is handling transporation. 308 01:22:07.760 --> 01:22:12.480 For example, this one. 309 01:22:15.260 --> 01:22:18.300 Rifles, guns, air-to-air missiles. 310 01:22:18.800 --> 01:22:21.870 At this moment we have contacted the other country, - 311 01:22:21.880 --> 01:22:24.390 - and they are waiting to buy these ones. 312 01:22:25.080 --> 01:22:30.350 Can you confirm that you buy the island within 2—3 months? 313 01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:34.470 What I will do, is that I will fly down there personally - 314 01:22:34.980 --> 01:22:37.630 - and stay down there until it's bought. 315 01:22:37.960 --> 01:22:40.830 The only reason why I went to Uganda in the first place, - 316 01:22:40.840 --> 01:22:42.670 - was because you told me to. 317 01:22:43.760 --> 01:22:46.670 The head of the ♪♪♪♪♪♪ of Uganda, a lawyer... 318 01:22:47.240 --> 01:22:49.350 ...is my close partner. 319 01:22:49.360 --> 01:22:51.790 So if you need, I'll help you. 320 01:22:51.800 --> 01:22:55.710 But please consider, their ways of life... 321 01:22:55.720 --> 01:23:01.430 ...and their working style is quite different from you and us. 322 01:23:03.920 --> 01:23:07.070 Today, "yes", drink, "yes" tomorrow, "forgotten"... 323 01:23:12.680 --> 01:23:14.270 - Please, consider it. - OK. 324 01:23:18.200 --> 01:23:20.000 So, when did they contact you again? 325 01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:23.790 It actually went a long time. 326 01:23:24.040 --> 01:23:25.040 More than a year. 327 01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:29.868 My actor, Mr. James, seemed to be taking on a life of his own. 328 01:23:29.869 --> 01:23:31.380 That was a concern. 329 01:23:31.629 --> 01:23:34.228 Another concern was the mole going back to Spain to brief 330 01:23:34.229 --> 01:23:39.468 Alejandro Cao de Benos about the Tourism Project, the code name 331 01:23:39.469 --> 01:23:43.920 chosen for the underground weapons and drugs factory in Uganda. 332 01:23:49.760 --> 01:23:53.068 By now, the mole had been undercover for more than seven years 333 01:23:53.069 --> 01:23:55.200 and paranoia was running high. 334 01:23:57.760 --> 01:24:00.548 So far, no intelligence service had caught onto us, 335 01:24:00.549 --> 01:24:03.748 but, every time we met with Alejandro Cao de Benos, 336 01:24:03.749 --> 01:24:05.708 we had to consider the possibility 337 01:24:05.709 --> 01:24:09.468 that he was being followed by spooks. 338 01:24:09.469 --> 01:24:11.868 At the same time, we also had to consider the risk 339 01:24:11.869 --> 01:24:14.988 that Alejandro would upgrade his counter surveillance 340 01:24:14.989 --> 01:24:18.560 with new devices for discovering microphones. 341 01:24:22.560 --> 01:24:26.628 From now on, the mole would only meet with Alejandro in a hotel 342 01:24:26.629 --> 01:24:29.988 chosen by us with security on standby next door 343 01:24:29.989 --> 01:24:32.600 in case his cover was blown. 344 01:24:39.960 --> 01:24:43.588 Soon Alejandro would spring another surprise on the mole, 345 01:24:43.589 --> 01:24:45.828 but first a piece of nostalgia. 346 01:24:45.829 --> 01:24:49.940 You see, going to North Korea with Alejandro as my tour guide 347 01:24:50.189 --> 01:24:54.858 back in 2006 left a long-lasting impression on me. 348 01:24:54.859 --> 01:24:57.828 Apparently I had also left a long-lasting impression 349 01:24:57.829 --> 01:24:59.948 on Alejandro Cao de Benos 350 01:24:59.949 --> 01:25:03.840 and so had my first documentary about North Korea, The Red Chapel. 351 01:25:05.420 --> 01:25:09.228 The film stars two Danish-Korean comedians who go to Pyongyang 352 01:25:09.229 --> 01:25:11.068 and lampoon the leadership, 353 01:25:11.069 --> 01:25:15.480 which means that I am not Mr. Popular in North Korea any more. 354 01:25:24.200 --> 01:25:25.750 Little pussycat. 355 01:25:26.160 --> 01:25:28.830 Little pussycat on the road... 356 01:25:28.840 --> 01:25:33.550 It's a poem about the independence of the cat, a little pussycat. 357 01:25:33.560 --> 01:25:36.390 - A little pussycat? What's that? - A cat. 358 01:25:36.400 --> 01:25:40.110 - A puss... or with...? - In English you can say pussycat or cat. 359 01:25:40.120 --> 01:25:43.830 It's a cat... Meow. - Meow... Pussy, what does it mean? 360 01:25:44.880 --> 01:25:49.690 Mads Brugger! I still have his passport, you know. Brugger and the other fucker. 361 01:25:49.960 --> 01:25:53.710 First trip, it's by me. They come to me. 362 01:25:54.080 --> 01:25:55.350 They were there more than once? 363 01:25:55.360 --> 01:25:58.990 Yes, they have been there three times before making "The Red Chapel". To North Korea. 364 01:25:59.440 --> 01:26:01.870 Suddenly, I receive a call from Pyongyang: 365 01:26:02.240 --> 01:26:04.359 "Alejandro, you know what happened with "The Red Chapel"?" 366 01:26:04.360 --> 01:26:06.230 "I know nothing! I was not in the meetings." 367 01:26:06.560 --> 01:26:10.390 "I only brought them in the first trip. I don't even know they came second time, third time." 368 01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:15.510 I said: "You know what, you deserve that for not telling me." 369 01:26:15.760 --> 01:26:20.390 "They took advantage of you. They cheat you, they fuck you, and now they are making a fortune." 370 01:26:20.400 --> 01:26:22.830 And if you were with them, you could have stopped them. 371 01:26:22.840 --> 01:26:26.270 Of course! I know sarcasm, I know how they think! 372 01:26:26.520 --> 01:26:29.830 In the moment that they said: "Pussy. Pussycat." - 373 01:26:30.440 --> 01:26:35.410 I will say to him: "I will smash the face of Brugger! And put him in the mine!" 374 01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:38.399 And I will smash his face in North Korea, because you cannot prosecute me, - 375 01:26:38.400 --> 01:26:40.430 - because it's under the laws of the country. 376 01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:43.230 So I will do that! What the fuck! 377 01:26:43.240 --> 01:26:45.310 Anyway, never mind about that. 378 01:26:47.160 --> 01:26:51.360 Sarcasm aside, Alejandro Cao de Benos is a man who thinks big. 379 01:26:52.720 --> 01:26:55.268 During the meeting in Barcelona, Alejandro tells the mole 380 01:26:55.269 --> 01:26:59.268 of an ambitious plan for a triangle deal 381 01:26:59.269 --> 01:27:04.320 involving Mr. James, North Korea and a Jordanian businessman. 382 01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:07.710 This is Hisham Al Dasouki from Jordan. 383 01:27:08.440 --> 01:27:11.470 He wants to provide fuel to North Korea. 384 01:27:12.360 --> 01:27:16.110 And Alejandro gets this wise idea that we can make a "triangle deal"... 385 01:27:16.400 --> 01:27:17.680 Which is...? 386 01:27:17.800 --> 01:27:21.470 Which is that we send the fuel to North Korea, - 387 01:27:21.480 --> 01:27:25.790 - and James gets the payment in arms parts and pharmaceuticals - 388 01:27:25.800 --> 01:27:28.630 - to the island in Uganda. 389 01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:33.190 The general idea is that you can triangle. 390 01:27:33.800 --> 01:27:37.990 And no one will ever know... OK, now I get it. 391 01:27:43.640 --> 01:27:47.828 If the mole could get Mr. James to Spain, Alejandro will introduce him 392 01:27:47.829 --> 01:27:50.300 to his plans for triangular trading. 393 01:27:59.400 --> 01:28:04.310 So we set up the meeting in a yacht in the harbour of Barcelona. 394 01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:07.670 Hello, my friend. 395 01:28:07.680 --> 01:28:09.870 - Long time, no see. - 1 must say that. 396 01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:13.070 - How are you? - I'm good. Be careful! 397 01:28:14.320 --> 01:28:15.390 Good to see you. 398 01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:17.910 You look young, younger and younger. 399 01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:19.750 I'm trying my best. 400 01:28:22.360 --> 01:28:26.190 Normally, I don't drink, but today... Can you make me one of these? 401 01:28:26.200 --> 01:28:26.910 Yes, sure. 402 01:28:26.920 --> 01:28:28.119 - Alejandro? - I have this water, I'm fine. 403 01:28:28.120 --> 01:28:30.630 Bloody Mary is good. 404 01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:41.670 So let's start first with the triangle. 405 01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:43.710 Yes. So, the concept is very easy. 406 01:28:43.960 --> 01:28:47.110 When we were looking for oil, due to the sanctions, - 407 01:28:47.120 --> 01:28:50.270 -1 received the order from Pyongyang, from our government, - 408 01:28:50.280 --> 01:28:55.510 - to look for different sources: Someone willing to sell oil to us, - 409 01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:57.190 - who does not mind the sanctions. 410 01:28:57.480 --> 01:29:03.670 So, this is a deal that our company Narae wanted to do with Mr. Dasouki. 411 01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:07.830 Mr. Kang told me: "Look, we are also doing" - 412 01:29:08.280 --> 01:29:11.430 - "the business, at the same time, with Mr. James." 413 01:29:11.440 --> 01:29:15.430 "So, why don't we make a triangle?" 414 01:29:15.880 --> 01:29:19.590 Instead of you paying to our country, - 415 01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:24.190 - which is a little complicated because of the sanctions, and so on, - 416 01:29:24.200 --> 01:29:25.960 - and the nature of the business, especially. 417 01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:32.190 "So, instead of going direct, why doesn't James pay"... 418 01:29:32.360 --> 01:29:36.110 Like, let's say, you are buying this oil, - 419 01:29:36.120 --> 01:29:38.870 - not the DPRK, although we are the one receiving it, - 420 01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:43.110 - and then, from this amount, it can be deducted from the contract - 421 01:29:43.120 --> 01:29:47.590 - and for the operations that you are going to realize in the tourist business. 422 01:29:48.040 --> 01:29:50.950 - So, we will receive the weapons... - Yes. 423 01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:54.070 ...and then we give him money, and then he gives oil. 424 01:29:54.600 --> 01:29:57.310 And he doesn't have any problem with selling oil to North Korea? 425 01:29:57.320 --> 01:29:58.320 Not at all. 426 01:29:58.480 --> 01:30:02.190 So he knows how to get the oil there - 427 01:30:02.200 --> 01:30:05.270 - without getting the boats stopped? - Exactly. Yes. 428 01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:08.430 - So, he's kind of pirate? - Kind of, yeah. 429 01:30:09.200 --> 01:30:10.320 Hmm. 430 01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:16.910 What is your position in all of this? 431 01:30:17.760 --> 01:30:21.190 I'm the person who makes things work, let's say it like that, OK? 432 01:30:21.520 --> 01:30:25.470 Like a person arranging everything at an international level, - 433 01:30:25.760 --> 01:30:27.510 - like a matchmaker, we could say, huh? 434 01:30:32.200 --> 01:30:35.310 We could say that, normally, most things come through me, - 435 01:30:35.320 --> 01:30:40.110 - I'm in the middle of many of the most important transactions of our country. 436 01:30:40.400 --> 01:30:43.870 And I hold positions which I cannot tell you, in our country, - 437 01:30:44.040 --> 01:30:46.390 - at a very high level, in the ministries. 438 01:30:46.520 --> 01:30:49.230 It's a ministry which is over all the other ministries. 439 01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:52.550 So, an agreement like this, you can sign on their behalf? 440 01:30:52.880 --> 01:30:54.390 Sure. Exactly. 441 01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:57.870 And guarantee my security...? 442 01:30:57.880 --> 01:31:00.150 - Yes, exactly. - OK. Let's see. 443 01:31:04.400 --> 01:31:07.710 They just think I will hand over money, - 444 01:31:08.080 --> 01:31:11.550 - and I'm like: "I'm not handing over any money." 445 01:31:11.560 --> 01:31:15.550 "I have met you, I have trust in you, but..." - 446 01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:19.150 "...I want to meet this Mr. Dasouki face to face". 447 01:31:31.400 --> 01:31:34.218 So my two proxies, the mole and Mr James, 448 01:31:34.219 --> 01:31:37.108 went to Jordan to find out if there really is a man named 449 01:31:37.109 --> 01:31:41.120 El Dasouki who wants to triangle with them and North Korea. 450 01:31:51.640 --> 01:31:52.720 Have a nice day. 451 01:31:58.880 --> 01:32:00.750 - Mr. Dasouki? - How are you? 452 01:32:00.760 --> 01:32:02.030 Finally, nice to meet you. 453 01:32:02.040 --> 01:32:04.790 Please come and visit Mr. James. 454 01:32:05.960 --> 01:32:09.470 - Alejandro sends his greetings. - Yes, he sent an e-mail. 455 01:32:09.480 --> 01:32:12.510 OK, yeah. I spoke with him yesterday. 456 01:32:13.480 --> 01:32:15.870 I am happy that we're finally here now. 457 01:32:16.120 --> 01:32:19.590 Alejandro, really — this man, I like him so much. 458 01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:21.030 That's good. 459 01:32:21.040 --> 01:32:26.910 - He is my number one comrade. I love him, too. - He tells me so many things about you. 460 01:32:26.920 --> 01:32:32.590 - He is very... passionate. - Yes. He is a fighter. 461 01:32:33.400 --> 01:32:34.430 Please. 462 01:32:35.680 --> 01:32:36.680 Hello, James. 463 01:32:37.200 --> 01:32:39.390 - Hello. - Hi, Mr. James. 464 01:32:39.400 --> 01:32:41.910 - 1 met a nice man in the reception. - Suddenly it happens. 465 01:32:41.920 --> 01:32:44.670 - Hello. - Welcome, take a seat. 466 01:32:45.280 --> 01:32:46.280 Nice to see you. 467 01:32:46.960 --> 01:32:47.960 Cheers! 468 01:32:49.440 --> 01:32:53.950 Just for me to understand the kind of business you do... 469 01:32:55.480 --> 01:33:01.270 My business now is for two things: chemicals and petroleum, for oil. 470 01:33:01.600 --> 01:33:06.310 I made some connections with some friends in the government. 471 01:33:06.320 --> 01:33:09.190 Good business, good idea, trust — That is all you need. 472 01:33:09.560 --> 01:33:12.710 If you have a bunch of money, all doors are open for you. 473 01:33:13.640 --> 01:33:18.950 So for your share, you pay off the government, so we are safe? 474 01:33:20.200 --> 01:33:23.710 That's not your way, it's my spin. It's my side. 475 01:33:23.720 --> 01:33:25.550 Not your names, not any names. 476 01:33:25.800 --> 01:33:28.750 Not my name also, to be frank with you. 477 01:33:28.760 --> 01:33:32.070 Because I must keep my name clean. 478 01:33:32.080 --> 01:33:35.670 You have a middle man who takes the blame, if there's a problem. 479 01:33:36.760 --> 01:33:41.910 Because getting things to North Korea right now — it's a bit tricky. 480 01:33:42.240 --> 01:33:43.310 Yes. 481 01:33:43.920 --> 01:33:46.710 You have satellites up your ass all the way. 482 01:33:46.720 --> 01:33:50.110 Each time I export to Korea, - 483 01:33:50.320 --> 01:33:55.070 - when I come back, I change the name of the ship. 484 01:33:55.800 --> 01:33:58.510 Because after you go there once, you get blacklisted. 485 01:33:58.760 --> 01:34:01.830 An important thing to do, when you import or export... 486 01:34:02.520 --> 01:34:06.590 ...don't sail your ship directly. 487 01:34:06.600 --> 01:34:10.830 There must be a point to stop and change documents, and then go. 488 01:34:11.320 --> 01:34:14.270 If you need, I can help you with that. 489 01:34:14.560 --> 01:34:15.830 Something dangerous, 490 01:34:16.440 --> 01:34:19.110 Like a machine, 491 01:34:19.360 --> 01:34:22.270 I can do this. I know how to do it. 492 01:34:24.740 --> 01:34:26.240 I guess that's the food. 493 01:34:29.520 --> 01:34:31.670 Hello. Please come in. 494 01:34:34.240 --> 01:34:35.790 I just go to the bathroom. 495 01:34:35.160 --> 01:34:36.680 Yeah, sure, sure, sure. 496 01:34:37.120 --> 01:34:38.710 It is out here, right? Yes. 497 01:34:46.520 --> 01:34:49.030 And we decided to meet up the next day - 498 01:34:49.040 --> 01:34:51.070 - for signing the contract. 499 01:34:52.920 --> 01:34:55.630 Nice to see you again, my friend. Thank you so much. 500 01:34:56.040 --> 01:34:57.390 Thank you. 501 01:35:00.200 --> 01:35:01.910 Let's do business. 502 01:35:08.560 --> 01:35:10.550 This is my Russian visa document. 503 01:35:12.520 --> 01:35:15.390 - This is for trading the oil. - OK. 504 01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:18.310 To take it out from Russia, to Jordan, - 505 01:35:18.720 --> 01:35:21.190 - then to Dubai, and from Dubai send it... 506 01:35:23.080 --> 01:35:26.750 So when you go from Vladivostok you go out, international, - 507 01:35:26.760 --> 01:35:30.430 - and you go back to Nampo or something, with another vessel, or just change the name? 508 01:35:30.440 --> 01:35:32.150 Different ways of doing this. 509 01:35:32.240 --> 01:35:35.390 Sometimes, it can go into that boat, my boat, - 510 01:35:35.980 --> 01:35:37.590 - all you like, to North Korea. 511 01:35:38.600 --> 01:35:39.950 Sometimes, you cannot go, - 512 01:35:40.340 --> 01:35:42.030 - you must change in international waters. 513 01:35:42.040 --> 01:35:42.910 Yeah, yeah. 514 01:35:42.920 --> 01:35:45.830 If you're not in a hurry, it takes 30—40 days, - 515 01:35:46.080 --> 01:35:48.670 - because of the long way to go... 516 01:35:48.980 --> 01:35:50.910 Yes, they need to... Exactly. 517 01:35:51.640 --> 01:35:56.030 ...to get far away from the controlling systems. 518 01:35:56.760 --> 01:36:00.710 The government of Russia gives you the contracts... 519 01:36:02.200 --> 01:36:04.190 10 thousand? 10 million? 520 01:36:04.760 --> 01:36:07.630 ...and you can sail anywhere, it's up to you. 521 01:36:09.120 --> 01:36:11.550 OK, yeah. I understand. 522 01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:15.790 - It's like mafia. - OK. We are the mafia. 523 01:36:15.800 --> 01:36:18.630 They are mafia! And we are the same! 524 01:36:19.160 --> 01:36:20.550 We are the same. Yeah. 525 01:36:25.880 --> 01:36:27.270 Finally. 526 01:36:27.640 --> 01:36:30.790 I also need a picture with Mr. Dasouki for Alejandro. 527 01:36:37.120 --> 01:36:38.948 So was the contract actually signed? 528 01:36:38.949 --> 01:36:40.540 They signed the contract. 529 01:36:42.080 --> 01:36:43.200 For how much? 530 01:36:44.280 --> 01:36:46.230 - I think, at that point... 531 01:36:47.320 --> 01:36:51.230 ...it was around 3.2 million US dollars. 532 01:36:56.360 --> 01:36:59.190 - We'll do it soon. - Thank you very much. 533 01:37:01.280 --> 01:37:05.310 Not to be rude, but could I have five minutes alone...? 534 01:37:05.320 --> 01:37:06.590 Yeah. 535 01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:12.310 I'll just take a sip outside. 536 01:37:15.280 --> 01:37:18.710 I'll bring my coffee. I'll come back in five minutes. 537 01:37:22.040 --> 01:37:26.590 So Ulrich leaves the room, but I'm still recording the conversation. 538 01:37:27.360 --> 01:37:30.950 And you can ensure that the government will not interfere? 539 01:37:32.600 --> 01:37:36.470 This is something personal between me and you. 540 01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:40.510 I am working with [...]. 541 01:37:40.760 --> 01:37:43.990 He is one of my friends. That's all. 542 01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:45.590 - OK. - OK. 543 01:37:48.720 --> 01:37:53.348 Here, El Dasouki mentions a major Jordanian power broker, 544 01:37:53.349 --> 01:37:57.200 but, due to legal reasons, his name cannot be disclosed. 545 01:38:00.280 --> 01:38:02.628 Next, the mole was asked to go to Sweden 546 01:38:02.629 --> 01:38:05.588 because a package was waiting for him to be picked up 547 01:38:05.589 --> 01:38:08.040 at the North Korean embassy in Stockholm. 548 01:38:10.040 --> 01:38:11.190 Hello, Ri, I'm here. 549 01:38:11.200 --> 01:38:12.750 - How are you? - I'm fine. 550 01:38:12.760 --> 01:38:14.670 The sun is so beautiful today. 551 01:38:15.080 --> 01:38:16.470 So, Kang wrote me. 552 01:38:16.480 --> 01:38:18.910 Yeah, he sent these photos for you to check. 553 01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:20.190 Thank you. 554 01:38:21.640 --> 01:38:25.350 I went to the embassy in Stockholm to pick up some drawings. 555 01:38:27.320 --> 01:38:30.270 What you see here is actually a North Korean design - 556 01:38:30.280 --> 01:38:34.750 - of how we can build our weapons/pharmaceutical factory - 557 01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:36.910 - in Uganda. - Ah. OK. 558 01:38:36.920 --> 01:38:40.670 It looks great! Outside it looks like a resort, yeah? 559 01:38:40.680 --> 01:38:42.710 Exactly. That's why we need... 560 01:38:42.720 --> 01:38:45.270 But inside it looks so smart, you know? 561 01:38:45.280 --> 01:38:47.470 - It's like from a movie. - Yeah. 562 01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:49.200 Like my sort of movie! 563 01:38:52.160 --> 01:38:54.430 This is actually how it will look from above. 564 01:38:56.840 --> 01:38:59.550 - A golf course here? - It could be, yeah. 565 01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:00.910 - That's great. - Yeah. 566 01:39:02.640 --> 01:39:04.830 What about the hotel title? 567 01:39:04.840 --> 01:39:07.510 What are you going to title it? 568 01:39:08.080 --> 01:39:12.790 I know they are going to have some meetings with the investor about all those details now. 569 01:39:13.120 --> 01:39:16.590 Not something that smells like DPRK. 570 01:39:16.600 --> 01:39:17.600 - Exactly. - Yes. 571 01:39:21.280 --> 01:39:22.320 So... 572 01:39:25.240 --> 01:39:30.230 I hope this is going to be successful, just keep it confidential. 573 01:39:30.240 --> 01:39:32.790 Confidential. Of course. Yeah. 574 01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:38.550 If something happens, our embassy knows nothing about this, OK? 575 01:39:38.560 --> 01:39:39.830 Exactly. 576 01:39:50.400 --> 01:39:51.560 Thank you for the ride. 577 01:39:58.280 --> 01:39:59.470 Hello. 578 01:39:59.480 --> 01:40:01.630 This is one of the staff of Mr. James. 579 01:40:01.880 --> 01:40:03.670 He will lead us to the room. 580 01:40:05.200 --> 01:40:07.988 Then, in this tale of intrigue and deception, 581 01:40:07.989 --> 01:40:10.148 a new character made his appearance. 582 01:40:10.149 --> 01:40:14.068 It was Mr. Ju, a North Korean envoy who came to Copenhagen 583 01:40:14.069 --> 01:40:16.588 to do business with Mr. James. 584 01:40:16.589 --> 01:40:20.468 Last time the world met Mr. Ju was on the Australian version 585 01:40:20.469 --> 01:40:24.228 of 60 Minutes, where he acts as a smiling mouthpiece 586 01:40:24.229 --> 01:40:26.780 for the regime in Pyongyang. 587 01:40:26.960 --> 01:40:29.190 We were weak, but now we are strong. 588 01:40:29.960 --> 01:40:33.230 Single-hearted unity, a great leadership, - 589 01:40:33.240 --> 01:40:35.190 - and we have the ICBMs, - 590 01:40:35.200 --> 01:40:38.830 - so I usually say to Donald Trump: "Come, come, come to me." 591 01:40:38.840 --> 01:40:41.630 "I will choke you with my H-bombs." 592 01:40:43.320 --> 01:40:44.320 Wow. 593 01:40:44.880 --> 01:40:49.990 I planned my trip to Denmark in order to expand the tourism market into Scandinavian countries. 594 01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:50.950 And... 595 01:40:50.960 --> 01:40:54.910 What is your connection to our collaboration partners? 596 01:40:56.600 --> 01:41:00.910 I have a close friendship with Mr. Kang for many years. 597 01:41:01.880 --> 01:41:07.150 Mr. Kang asked me to pick up the weapon deals of the Narae Trade Company, - 598 01:41:09.160 --> 01:41:12.310 - to sign the contract. I have the document here. 599 01:41:17.880 --> 01:41:25.550 And also he wants me to be the communicator of "The Tourism Project". 600 01:41:26.080 --> 01:41:29.270 - In Uganda? - Yeah, in Uganda. 601 01:41:29.280 --> 01:41:32.990 The contract stipulates the triangle deal in print: 602 01:41:33.960 --> 01:41:37.870 Oil purchased by Mr. James goes to North Korea, - 603 01:41:37.880 --> 01:41:43.110 - and in return, North Korea sends products and technicians to the island in Uganda, - 604 01:41:43.120 --> 01:41:45.150 - where "tourist goods” will be made. 605 01:41:50.200 --> 01:41:53.350 And here you go. And you have my pen. 606 01:41:54.480 --> 01:41:58.390 Danish tradition. Actually, you have the hotel's pen. 607 01:42:00.380 --> 01:42:02.720 And did Alejandro know about this deal as well? 608 01:42:03.320 --> 01:42:05.030 He was very well aware of it. 609 01:42:05.360 --> 01:42:07.230 - Cheers! - Cheers! 610 01:42:10.160 --> 01:42:11.350 Oooh! 611 01:42:11.640 --> 01:42:14.030 Exactly. Let's try this one. 612 01:42:14.480 --> 01:42:16.748 Now the North Koreans would discover 613 01:42:16.749 --> 01:42:20.280 that Denmark, also, is a very alcoholised country. 614 01:42:21.160 --> 01:42:23.110 Cheers! All in one. 615 01:42:28.040 --> 01:42:30.659 Look at him. Oh, no, no. You have to... 616 01:42:30.660 --> 01:42:32.160 Chin-chin! 617 01:42:38.280 --> 01:42:42.150 So we visited The Little Mermaid, - 618 01:42:42.480 --> 01:42:44.990 - but they were so drunk, I don't think they even remember. 619 01:42:46.520 --> 01:42:50.508 Had Mr. James chosen to honour the contract he signed in Copenhagen, 620 01:42:50.509 --> 01:42:53.748 he would have to wire millions of dollars to El Dasouki 621 01:42:53.749 --> 01:42:57.268 in Jordan as payment for oil to North Korea. 622 01:42:57.269 --> 01:43:00.908 In return, North Korea would deliver manpower and products 623 01:43:00.909 --> 01:43:04.600 to the island of Mr. James and so goes the triangle trade. 624 01:43:05.240 --> 01:43:07.110 - We can triangle. - Exactly. 625 01:43:07.120 --> 01:43:09.668 From his office in Jordan, El Dasouki was now 626 01:43:09.669 --> 01:43:13.668 threatening legal action unless Mr James honoured their contract 627 01:43:13.669 --> 01:43:15.080 and showed him the money. 628 01:43:17.820 --> 01:43:20.988 Meanwhile, the North Korean weapons dealer, Mr. Danny, 629 01:43:20.989 --> 01:43:25.388 who we met in Uganda, was pushing for a meeting with Mr. James 630 01:43:25.389 --> 01:43:27.900 in order to "speed up" the business. 631 01:43:31.080 --> 01:43:32.938 They met in a hotel in Cambodia, 632 01:43:32.939 --> 01:43:37.940 where Mr. James was taken to the next level in the circle of trust. 633 01:43:39.440 --> 01:43:43.670 He gave me a new order list while I was down there. 634 01:43:43.680 --> 01:43:46.670 - So, may I explain... - Yeah. 635 01:43:46.680 --> 01:43:48.830 About the special items business, yes. 636 01:43:48.840 --> 01:43:51.470 It is not a common thing. 637 01:43:51.480 --> 01:43:52.230 OK. 638 01:43:52.240 --> 01:43:53.830 This one, the number 1... 639 01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:57.070 ...it's to attack the enemy tanks. 640 01:43:58.920 --> 01:44:01.750 Then number 11, can attack a drone. 641 01:44:02.040 --> 01:44:05.790 It sends a very powerful impulse to the drone... 642 01:44:05.800 --> 01:44:08.590 ...and then the drone will... drop. 643 01:44:08.600 --> 01:44:09.830 Like that. 644 01:44:12.220 --> 01:44:15.948 In Cambodia, it became apparent that the sanctions are working. 645 01:44:15.949 --> 01:44:19.148 The North Koreans are desperate to find clients who will buy 646 01:44:19.149 --> 01:44:24.120 their weapons and it seems like Mr James is their big white hope. 647 01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:28.670 Now, in Syria with the IS already defeated, - 648 01:44:29.000 --> 01:44:31.479 - so in this situation, it's very difficult for us to find clients - 649 01:44:31.480 --> 01:44:37.950 - who want to buy some of this military armament. 650 01:44:38.080 --> 01:44:41.270 If you have any clients, we can supply them through you. 651 01:44:43.880 --> 01:44:48.950 If I'm saying: "Ok, listen, guys, we wanna buy a huge amount of weapons", 652 01:44:49.200 --> 01:44:50.390 - we can get that. 653 01:44:50.880 --> 01:44:52.538 And what about the triangulation deal? 654 01:44:52.539 --> 01:44:54.240 Where's that left at the moment? 655 01:44:54.280 --> 01:44:58.230 We have the island. We could start that project tomorrow. 656 01:44:58.680 --> 01:45:00.628 - So this is where you left it? - Yeah. 657 01:45:00.629 --> 01:45:01.820 They still trust you. 658 01:45:02.360 --> 01:45:03.590 Yeah. For now. 659 01:45:04.560 --> 01:45:05.948 But not for long. 660 01:45:05.949 --> 01:45:08.348 The investigation had gone as far as it could, 661 01:45:08.349 --> 01:45:10.628 so Mr. James had to disappear. 662 01:45:10.629 --> 01:45:13.908 Thanks to my intervention, Mr. James went off the grid 663 01:45:13.909 --> 01:45:18.868 and simply vanished, no longer answering his phone nor his emails. 664 01:45:18.869 --> 01:45:22.300 In short, Mr. James became a ghost. 665 01:45:26.040 --> 01:45:28.868 Meanwhile, the mole was taking care of business 666 01:45:28.869 --> 01:45:30.960 as the KFA delegate of Scandinavia. 667 01:45:32.000 --> 01:45:35.698 First, he went to London to protest against the BBC, 668 01:45:35.699 --> 01:45:37.428 together with his comrade in arms, 669 01:45:37.429 --> 01:45:40.828 the British delegate of the Korean Friendship Association, 670 01:45:40.829 --> 01:45:42.320 Mr. Dermot Hodgson. 671 01:45:44.400 --> 01:45:46.910 Hello, everybody, this is Ulrich and Dermot. 672 01:45:46.920 --> 01:45:49.310 We are at the BBC, which is the... 673 01:45:49.320 --> 01:45:52.310 ...British Brainwashing Corporation. 674 01:45:58.120 --> 01:46:01.630 The BBC are continuing their lies about People's Korea. 675 01:46:04.720 --> 01:46:08.348 Then the mole went to Spain for his last in-person meeting 676 01:46:08.349 --> 01:46:10.920 with his president, Alejandro Cao de Benos. 677 01:46:15.560 --> 01:46:17.270 Oh! Thank you very much! 678 01:46:17.280 --> 01:46:19.630 You insist, I insist, OK. 679 01:46:19.740 --> 01:46:21.800 Several items were on the agenda. 680 01:46:22.240 --> 01:46:25.190 Dermot, he is British, and I've been in his home. 681 01:46:25.200 --> 01:46:29.310 So frankly speaking, British tend to be quite dirty. 682 01:46:29.640 --> 01:46:32.890 They love dirty, mouldy, rusty things... 683 01:46:33.120 --> 01:46:35.590 It's like, they love it. 684 01:46:33.920 --> 01:46:35.440 And old carpets on the floor. 685 01:46:35.600 --> 01:46:40.270 Not only old carpets, but he enters with the boots full with mud. 686 01:46:40.280 --> 01:46:42.310 Mud! In the house, you know? 687 01:46:42.680 --> 01:46:46.560 But most important was the sudden disappearance of Mr. James. 688 01:46:48.480 --> 01:46:54.030 It's difficult to trust people you don't know. And even people you know. Like James. 689 01:46:54.400 --> 01:46:59.550 Yes, that really made us lose a lot of money, a lot of time... 690 01:46:59.560 --> 01:47:01.030 To you, to me, to Korea... 691 01:47:01.400 --> 01:47:03.550 I feel myself like a big idiot. 692 01:47:03.880 --> 01:47:06.310 Am I the right guy in KFA now? 693 01:47:06.320 --> 01:47:07.790 Because I feel responsible... 694 01:47:08.080 --> 01:47:10.790 No, because we know exactly who you are. 695 01:47:10.800 --> 01:47:12.070 And we know who he is... 696 01:47:12.680 --> 01:47:18.670 I have some meetings with this kind of rich men, I'm used to this kind. 697 01:47:18.680 --> 01:47:21.550 The exception is people like Mr. Dasouki, - 698 01:47:21.560 --> 01:47:25.830 - who is a very rich man, very powerful, very influential... but a very humble person. 699 01:47:26.280 --> 01:47:33.550 James is an opportunistic person, who just wants to push out everyone, without recognising their work. 700 01:47:33.560 --> 01:47:38.070 You have been loyal, even as a servant. More than loyal. 701 01:47:38.080 --> 01:47:40.230 Frankly speaking... I didn't tell you. 702 01:47:40.240 --> 01:47:46.550 The way you treated him and the way he treated you, it was like from servant to the lord. 703 01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:51.190 "Give me a Bloody Mary. What do you want, Alejandro? Then serve me, Mr. Ulrich..." 704 01:47:51.200 --> 01:47:58.670 Of course you are my comrade. I felt so bad, seeing you. 705 01:47:58.680 --> 01:48:01.670 But we are playing a game, so I had to accept that. 706 01:48:01.680 --> 01:48:04.470 I was also playing my games for him. 707 01:48:04.600 --> 01:48:09.390 I know that. We are all playing games. 708 01:48:12.720 --> 01:48:16.790 You know that you must have people that you can fully trust. 709 01:48:16.800 --> 01:48:21.070 Because, if only one goes to the CIA... Only one. 710 01:48:21.080 --> 01:48:23.030 You are fucked forever. 711 01:48:26.760 --> 01:48:28.218 To top it off, 712 01:48:28.219 --> 01:48:32.230 the mole had been chosen as the host of the annual KFA meeting. 713 01:48:32.590 --> 01:48:37.618 All along, as the puppet master, it was I who wrote the speeches for the mole 714 01:48:37.619 --> 01:48:40.919 and now he would deliver his final sermon. 715 01:48:40.920 --> 01:48:42.070 Dear comrades! 716 01:48:42.120 --> 01:48:43.950 The KFA is at war. We are at war! 717 01:48:43.960 --> 01:48:47.270 And we have every right to wage war against our enemies. 718 01:48:47.840 --> 01:48:51.150 Because one person can change the outcome of history. 719 01:48:52.680 --> 01:48:54.790 "But, what about me?", you might ask. 720 01:48:55.200 --> 01:48:58.230 "What have you been doing as a KFA delegate for Scandinavia?" 721 01:48:58.760 --> 01:49:02.590 I will here present you, "The Tourist Project". 722 01:49:04.840 --> 01:49:06.430 Here it is. 723 01:49:06.960 --> 01:49:10.390 Mana, can you take this one down, please? 724 01:49:16.050 --> 01:49:18.598 As I had planned it, the mole would share the fruits 725 01:49:18.599 --> 01:49:21.545 of the top-secret work he had been doing with his mentor Alejandro. 726 01:49:21.546 --> 01:49:24.110 Beautiful hotel with swimming pools and hotel rooms, - 727 01:49:24.480 --> 01:49:26.750 - meeting areas, golf course... 728 01:49:27.400 --> 01:49:31.790 Of course The Mole would only use the coded phrases for methamphetamine and weapons - 729 01:49:31.800 --> 01:49:34.750 - which Alejandro Cao de Bends had taught him in the bunker in Spain. 730 01:49:34.760 --> 01:49:39.430 When referring to something that you eat, it's a seafood, canned seafood. 731 01:49:39.440 --> 01:49:41.910 And when you are talking about the other thing - 732 01:49:41.920 --> 01:49:45.590 - you can talk about for example, let's talk about... 733 01:49:46.040 --> 01:49:48.150 Wood. Wood handicraft. 734 01:49:48.160 --> 01:49:49.190 Wood handicraft, yes. 735 01:49:49.200 --> 01:49:51.510 Made by hand, by the native people. 736 01:49:51.520 --> 01:49:52.470 Yes. 737 01:49:52.480 --> 01:49:58.070 In those rooms here, it will be possible to produce organic seafood or wooden handicrafts. 738 01:49:59.200 --> 01:50:00.990 There's built a road up here. 739 01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:03.150 Which will go up to an airstrip. 740 01:50:03.800 --> 01:50:05.830 So we can fly out our products. 741 01:50:06.400 --> 01:50:07.630 To sell in the world. 742 01:50:08.600 --> 01:50:11.110 You're welcome to come up and take pictures, if you like. 743 01:50:13.120 --> 01:50:15.910 Thank you. I'm sorry for the interruption... 744 01:50:20.420 --> 01:50:22.478 Following the annual KFA meeting, 745 01:50:22.479 --> 01:50:25.178 one member of the Korean Friendship Association 746 01:50:25.179 --> 01:50:28.570 praised the Tourist Project on the message board of the KFA. 747 01:50:29.810 --> 01:50:34.118 Alejandro told the mole to delete everything at once. 748 01:50:34.119 --> 01:50:37.838 Also, a member named Jean Paul left the KFA 749 01:50:37.839 --> 01:50:40.610 because he panicked about spying and hacking. 750 01:50:46.650 --> 01:50:47.888 At the end of this, 751 01:50:47.889 --> 01:50:51.808 I hired the former intelligence officer Annie Machon. 752 01:50:51.809 --> 01:50:54.488 Before she went rogue and became a whistleblower, 753 01:50:54.489 --> 01:50:57.450 she was working for the British security service, the MI5. 754 01:50:58.700 --> 01:51:02.008 Her exploits as a whistleblower have made her controversial, 755 01:51:02.009 --> 01:51:04.328 but that is of no concern to me. 756 01:51:04.329 --> 01:51:08.168 I am only interested in her qualifications as a spy. 757 01:51:08.169 --> 01:51:11.768 Running long-time undercover agents was her line of work, 758 01:51:11.769 --> 01:51:15.808 as was debriefing agents at the end of their missions. 759 01:51:15.809 --> 01:51:19.128 If someone has put ten years of their life into doing something, 760 01:51:19.129 --> 01:51:22.248 and they've been very solitary in what they're doing, 761 01:51:22.249 --> 01:51:25.928 they do need a chance just to tell someone exactly 762 01:51:25.929 --> 01:51:28.088 what they went through. 763 01:51:28.089 --> 01:51:31.088 It's almost like a confessional. 764 01:51:31.089 --> 01:51:34.088 And, of course, you do want to, to reward them at the end of it, 765 01:51:34.089 --> 01:51:37.608 even if it's just with a recognition they can't really tell anyone about, 766 01:51:37.609 --> 01:51:39.848 apart from perhaps their wife or their husband. 767 01:51:39.849 --> 01:51:41.928 But it is that recognition that's very important 768 01:51:41.929 --> 01:51:44.328 when they've been working undercover for so long. 769 01:51:44.329 --> 01:51:46.528 Such as a lavish dinner? 770 01:51:46.529 --> 01:51:48.900 A lavish dinner usually works very well, yes. 771 01:51:51.730 --> 01:51:54.848 And I want to raise a toast to you both for what you have achieved. 772 01:51:54.849 --> 01:51:56.648 I think it's probably the 773 01:51:56.649 --> 01:52:00.288 most impressive private intelligence operation 774 01:52:00.289 --> 01:52:01.820 I've ever heard of. 775 01:52:04.210 --> 01:52:06.568 How are you going to protect these two guys 776 01:52:06.569 --> 01:52:09.098 from any reprisals from the North Koreans? 777 01:52:09.099 --> 01:52:12.220 Regarding Mr. James, he simply refuses to be 778 01:52:13.490 --> 01:52:18.088 you know, protected or advised about security. 779 01:52:18.089 --> 01:52:19.089 Okay. 780 01:52:20.250 --> 01:52:24.499 We have prepared for an after-care programme for the mole, 781 01:52:24.500 --> 01:52:26.850 also taking care of his security. 782 01:52:27.810 --> 01:52:29.048 And his family? 783 01:52:29.049 --> 01:52:30.140 And his family as well. 784 01:52:31.770 --> 01:52:37.648 What I am more concerned about regarding the mole is that 785 01:52:37.649 --> 01:52:40.860 being the mole has been a part of his identity 786 01:52:41.049 --> 01:52:43.819 for more than ten years, you know? 787 01:52:43.820 --> 01:52:46.980 So, what will happen when we bring him in? 788 01:52:49.300 --> 01:52:52.808 Entering any form of secret-type world is very seductive. 789 01:52:52.809 --> 01:52:54.728 I know from personal experience. 790 01:52:54.729 --> 01:52:57.088 And, for those who have been living a double life, 791 01:52:57.089 --> 01:53:01.008 with all the danger and the adrenaline rush and everything, 792 01:53:01.009 --> 01:53:04.660 it is incredibly difficult, often, to go back to mundane reality. 793 01:53:09.130 --> 01:53:12.140 In the long-run, we all must face reality. 794 01:53:16.810 --> 01:53:19.448 So, finally, I went to the suburbs of Copenhagen 795 01:53:19.449 --> 01:53:20.968 to see where the mole lives 796 01:53:20.969 --> 01:53:22.890 and meet with him and his wife. 797 01:53:23.280 --> 01:53:24.630 Yes, but... 798 01:53:25.520 --> 01:53:29.790 Ulrich has something he wants to tell you. 799 01:53:30.880 --> 01:53:32.510 A very long story. 800 01:53:35.850 --> 01:53:37.706 It is a long story, 801 01:53:37.707 --> 01:53:39.250 but let's cut to the ending. 802 01:53:38.160 --> 01:53:39.830 In a way, I'm a bit proud of myself. 803 01:53:41.040 --> 01:53:41.950 And I hope that you can... 804 01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:42.960 ...in a way... 805 01:53:45.680 --> 01:53:47.150 ...be a bit impressed... 806 01:53:48.360 --> 01:53:49.870 ...of what I've tried to achieve. 807 01:53:49.880 --> 01:53:52.110 ...to document for the world to see. 808 01:53:56.160 --> 01:53:57.710 I'm simply shaken. 809 01:53:58.640 --> 01:54:01.230 And I think that you are an idiot, - 810 01:54:01.240 --> 01:54:03.390 - because you haven't told me anything. 811 01:54:04.360 --> 01:54:05.360 Yes. 812 01:54:05.960 --> 01:54:07.550 It's lies upon lies. 813 01:54:08.960 --> 01:54:10.870 I think this is fucking hard. 814 01:54:14.160 --> 01:54:18.390 There is something I want to say in defense of Ulrich. 815 01:54:20.560 --> 01:54:21.560 It's... 816 01:54:23.160 --> 01:54:24.310 It's important to say. 817 01:54:24.680 --> 01:54:28.510 Ulrich is one of the bravest people I have ever met. 818 01:54:32.360 --> 01:54:37.710 On an everyday basis you don't see him as brave. 819 01:54:38.320 --> 01:54:42.030 Then it's more like: "Get your act together and do some cleaning." 820 01:54:42.440 --> 01:54:45.870 He has distanced himself a lot from the family. 821 01:54:46.440 --> 01:54:49.790 More and more and more... He is disappearing. 822 01:54:50.800 --> 01:54:54.670 Now it's been going on for ten —eleven years, I don't know... 823 01:54:55.840 --> 01:54:56.840 Yes. 824 01:54:59.360 --> 01:55:04.510 But it has been crazy. It has been crazy for me. 825 01:55:04.920 --> 01:55:06.510 Not being able to tell you anything. 826 01:55:06.520 --> 01:55:08.470 I have often wondered: "What are you thinking?" 827 01:55:09.960 --> 01:55:11.310 I haven't thought so much. 828 01:55:12.520 --> 01:55:15.550 I am thinking more about what will happen now. 829 01:55:17.400 --> 01:55:19.830 When we are at the end of the road. 830 01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:25.670 And what consequences it will have for us as a family... 831 01:55:41.600 --> 01:55:45.630 You will be seated there, and I'll be over here. 832 01:55:50.680 --> 01:55:55.110 The only thing left was an even more difficult conversation. 833 01:55:57.040 --> 01:56:00.150 My heart is beating fast. 834 01:56:09.280 --> 01:56:12.750 - Hello. - Hello Alejandro. I can't see you. 835 01:56:13.080 --> 01:56:15.270 Oh! "Start Video" Ok. 836 01:56:17.840 --> 01:56:19.230 How are you? 837 01:56:19.240 --> 01:56:20.470 Yes fine and you? 838 01:56:20.480 --> 01:56:22.550 Well, I'm fine, so that's nice. 839 01:56:22.560 --> 01:56:26.190 Alejandro, before we get started I have a few things I want to tell you. 840 01:56:26.200 --> 01:56:27.510 Yes. 841 01:56:27.520 --> 01:56:30.390 First of all, why I have been so interested in North Korea. 842 01:56:31.240 --> 01:56:34.150 And also to find out the truth about you. 843 01:56:35.280 --> 01:56:38.750 All our meetings together have actually been filmed. 844 01:56:39.200 --> 01:56:41.430 And I have been acting like a mole. 845 01:56:41.720 --> 01:56:44.110 Because I am making a film, with you. 846 01:56:44.120 --> 01:56:48.870 And I would really much like you to meet the instructor who's been helping me through this movie. 847 01:56:48.880 --> 01:56:52.030 I hope you will answer his questions. So, please meet him here. 848 01:56:53.360 --> 01:56:54.910 Hello Alejandro. 849 01:56:55.360 --> 01:56:56.430 Yes hello. 850 01:56:56.440 --> 01:56:57.910 We meet again. 851 01:56:58.800 --> 01:56:59.800 Yeah. 852 01:56:59.960 --> 01:57:01.550 We are recording this conversation. 853 01:57:01.560 --> 01:57:04.270 And I should inform you that - 854 01:57:04.280 --> 01:57:07.590 - everything is on tape, and we basically know everything. 855 01:57:07.600 --> 01:57:10.350 So this is the end of a very long story. 856 01:57:12.600 --> 01:57:14.630 Alejandro, are you there? 857 01:57:32.840 --> 01:57:34.750 He disconnected. 858 01:57:34.760 --> 01:57:39.190 He raised his hand and pressed the stop button. 859 01:57:40.360 --> 01:57:43.790 When he appeared on screen I was close to running for the toilet. 860 01:57:44.160 --> 01:57:46.350 But when I opened my mouth, - 861 01:57:47.040 --> 01:57:49.710 - then I was kind of back in... 862 01:57:51.360 --> 01:57:53.630 ...the role of The Mole. 863 01:57:55.400 --> 01:57:57.350 But yes. 864 01:57:57.640 --> 01:57:59.310 Would you like to be The Mole again? 865 01:57:59.680 --> 01:58:01.270 Not the same way. 866 01:58:03.800 --> 01:58:05.790 Well, you never know. 867 01:58:10.360 --> 01:58:11.630 Great. 868 01:58:15.520 --> 01:58:17.030 Can we watch it? 67724

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