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Previously on the "Southern Charm"

season 9 reunion...

I think I'm going to perform

the first ever
- boy exorcism.

Jesus.

Craig has some colorful
sexual fetishes.

Well, I don't mind
light bondage.

Does anyone have a fan?

Shelby on Twitter said,
"Dildos, not classy."

After hearing about your
sexual situation with him,

maybe you needed it more.
- Oh, shut up.

[laughter]

Can we put one
in Shep's mouth real quick?

I'm at a crossroads.

BravoCon was sort
of the impetus.

Well, what happened is,
you were blackout all weekend.

Yes.

This road that you're on

ends with a cliff.

I can't be in that car anymore.

[dramatic music]

During the bar crawl,
can we agree that he was lying?

- Were you lying?
- I was bending the truth.

Yeah, he's not
bending the truth.

He's full of sh--.

- JT, you're obsessed with me.
- I'm telling the truth.

It's so weird.

- You had lied so many
- ing times to my face.

I'm just saying, Olivia,

forgive as you want
to be forgiven.

The implication there
is that she's done something--

- To a friend.
- Go ahead and say it.

I already see
what you're trying to do.

Well, it's already been
out there.

No, no, no,
you've been hanging this

over my head.
I want to see it.

The whole Thomas situation.

- Jesus.
- Thomas Ravenel?

Had a hook-up--
dumb, drunken night one time,

and she's the only person
I told on Earth about that.

And here you are sitting there
chomping at the bit

to use it against me.

I have not been
chomping at the bit.

Not only have you proven
yourself to be a sh-- friend,

you're a sh-- human too.

We're going
to leave it there.

We are going to take a break.

Can you imagine?

ing [BLEEP].

Tonight the "Southern Charm"
reunion continues.

Mm-hmm.

[tense music]

♪

Yes.
I mean...

Excellent.
What's up, Jamie?

- Hi.
- How we doing?

Good. Good to see you.

I am.

- Hi.
- Hi there.

- How are you?
- How are you doing?

Good.

Get all these layers off.

I'm like a big onion right now.

She's still sitting there
trying to, like,

turn it to where
I'm doing something wrong,

like, bringing up stuff
that has absolutely nothing

to do with what
we're talking about today.

Nothing.

The only reason why she's
bringing that stuff up

is to, like,
throw something at me

because she's got herself
in such a sh-- position.

I just don't think that this
friendship is salvageable.

I was this close to not
getting on the plane

and coming up here.

This close.

They're letting
Austen----ing Kroll

like, become something that
drives a wedge between them?

But I think the Shep and you
thing is interesting.

Why don't you say,
what is it about us?

Because you say it didn't
bother you about Taylor,

but you have a problem with me.

You know,
it's almost like, you know,

when I was looking at him,
I was, like, dude,

I'm, like, your best friend
in this room.

And he doesn't view it
like that.

He doesn't.

So just ask him
what his problem is.

Well, you can say, like,
"Hey, it's disruptive."

I mean, Austen.

He's so arrogant.

He's just an idiot and a liar.
- Yeah.

And Shep just needs to roar,
you know, and just get it--

like, it's like, get it out.

Yeah.

- Madison, I'm not against you.
- You told me to shut up.

Because you were making fun
of my sexual prowess.

I mean, that's nothing.
- I didn't even get it out yet.

Oh, man. Well--

I have my own set
of problems.

Please, I don't want
to get in any--OK?

I know.
Well, listen, let's not.

I got a lot to say
to a lot of people.

- OK. I do too.
- We don't have a problem.

I hope not. Yeah.
I'll go there.

So let's not.

Actually have a bone
to pick with everybody.

Be like, why didn't
you mother----ers tell me

my hair was messed up
half the----ing season?

[laughter]

All right, let me take
everybody back

in their seats, please.

All right, guys,
we're going to give them

two minutes for last looks,

and then we'll clear set
to get shot.

Oh, my God, look at this.

Thank you--I was trying
to give the girls shape.

All right, guys, two minutes.
Two minutes for any last looks.

Hey, friend.

How are you?
- Sup, baby?

- I know. Well, now you know.
- Yeah.

All right, here we go, guys.

I'm about to send it to Andy.

Taking a selfie. Don't worry.

Five, four, three, two...

Welcome back
to the "Southern Charm"

season 9 reunion.

I'm Andy Cohen.

I want to welcome Rod
and Rodrigo,

who join us now.

Welcome to the party.

What did you call it, JT?

boy exorcism?

- Yes.
- Yeah.

[laughter]

Rodrigo, you're the one guy
on the panel

who's been in the longest relationship.

From your perspective,
why do men in Charleston

have such a hard time
settling down?

You know,
Charleston is a college town.

And it's also
a big tourist destination.

So it's kind of
a rotating platter of girls

coming in and out of town.

- Temptation island.
- Yeah.

Exactly.
So I feel like,

for a lot
of these guys in Charleston,

it's a new shiny thing
every other second.

And they can't
control themselves.

- Fair assessment?
- Yes.

Yes.

We got a lot
of positive comments

about the possibility of Olivia
and Rod getting together.

"Olivia, the man got you
gluten-free bread.

Don't let this one go."

They had gluten-free?
I looked it up.

I went to The Pass
to get your bread.

I dropped it off.
- You're lying.

I had to go to two spots.

Are you serious?

"Wow, I think Rod and Olivia
are so sweet together."

"Thank God for Rod.

Watching Austen and Olivia
together made zero sense."

Olivia, what's your reaction
to that?

I mean, I love it
because when we do hang out,

it's so much fun.

And it really was just timing

that, like, wasn't on our side.

But I also know
that whatever happens with us,

like, romantically,
that we'll be good afterwards

because he is
just such a gentleman.

And there's no, like,
ego issues or insecurities.

And that's how I know
we would be able

to, like, move forward together.

And I feel like
we're getting there.

Venita, you said
you liked Rod for Olivia.

Why do you think
they're a good match?

Rod is just
a very sweet gentleman,

and Olivia needs someone
next to her

that's going to take care
of her very, very well.

And he, out of the bunch,
would do that the best for her.

So I was excited
for them to maybe work.

Rod, what attracted you
to Olivia?

Smart, funny, fun, beautiful.

You know, a lot of good things.
- Thank you.

Olivia, we got a lot
of comments about your bra.

So I'm out
with a good girlfriend of mine

that Austen has been

on a couple of dates
here and there.

She tells me
she went over there.

And in the morning,
she goes downstairs,

and there's a bra
on the ottoman.

Mac wrote, "You told Austen
to just throw your bra away?

Like, what kind of idiot
would believe that story?"

Because it was
probably beige.

[laughter]
- Yeah.

Right?

But girls wearing
a beige bra...

- She's not trying to--
- To hook up.

I'm assuming it was Paige's.

She was not intending
to hook up with you.

Olivia, can you clear this up
for us?

I mean, I wish I had
a better alibi.

Honestly, I know
how it looks and sounds,

but I was on the couch.

I had a huge hoodie on,
just old habits

getting comfortable,
threw my bra.

The movie ended.
I was going to get an Uber.

I was halfway out the door,
and he was like,

"Wait you left your bra."
And I was, like, leaving.

And I just said,
"Just throw it away."

Who here thinks they did more
than just watch "Just Married"?

I don't think
she's that stupid, honestly.

OK. Oh, you do.

- Yeah.
- OK.

And I wonder who the girl was
who discovered it, frankly.

You think Austen and I
did more that night?

You hugged his chest.
Like, I just--I don't know.

He's tall.
My head goes to his chest.

I'll say without telling you
how Olivia told me this,

but I take her word.

And she, without revealing how,
gave me a promise

that I know
that she definitely--

nothing more happened
that night.

Melody from Lake Arrowhead,
California, said,

"Olivia, you recently posted
a TikTok of Austen

"and your new man playing golf
in the Bahamas.

What can you tell us?"

Who is your new guy?

His name is Alex.

He--
- Does he live in Charleston?

- He lives in Dallas.
- OK.

I took Madison's advice on
looking outside of Charleston.

OK, I like it.

Yeah, and we were there
with our mutual friends.

And I told Alex, I was, like,

"Well, you know, you don't have
to be, like, besties with him.

Like, you know,
just be cordial."

And he's, like,
"Yeah, yeah, it's fine."

And then four hours later,
I look,

and they're driving up
to get in a golf cart.

And I was, like,
"What the hell did I just say?"

So were you and Austen
on vacation together?

- You could say that.
- Yes.

Austen brought Olivia
as his plus-one one time,

and she became
great friends with them.

So now when they're invited,
they invite both

because they're like,
"We're not choosing sides."

I bet you if Olivia
and Taylor had a friend

with a private jet
and a beach house,

they'd be
in a lot better place too.

- Well, I mean, I was like--
- That's how I see things.

To me, it's just like, really?

Because right before that,

you were, like,
- ing raw and real.

So the question is,

do you give Austen a pass
and not Taylor?

I can understand
why people say that,

especially watching
everything back.

But I had been pulling away
because we had had

so many conversations
that were going so wrong.

She was lying to my face.
I felt it.

And Austen stepped in at a time

where I was very vulnerable
and broken.

And I bonded with him.

And there were
unresolved feelings there.

Austen also lied to you.

Yeah. That's true.

But I do understand how it
looks like I'm giving passes.

But I really tried with Taylor,
and it didn't get me anywhere.

I'm here to listen.

I knew you had a hard year.

I know this has been
difficult for you.

I'm not trying to kick you
while you're down.

But I was thinking about you,

and you were not thinking
about me, not once this season.

And I learned that
watching it back.

- I don't think that's true.
- I don't care.

I mean, Olivia,
I know you don't care.

I mean, the problem is, like,

I've watched her throughout,
you know, the season,

like, telling she was sorry.

She----ed up.
Yes, she----ed up.

And you keep saying, like,
"I'm not trying

to kick her while I'm down."

Girl, I'm watching you
do it all the time.

How?
I never said

one bad thing about her
up until, like,

this point, up until recently,

when I realized
you were saying stuff about me.

People wanted me to flip out.

People wanted me
to throw my drink at you,

flip a table.

I kept it completely positive.

And I looked like an idiot
because I was

protecting a friendship

that I thought
we were both protecting.

And watching it back,
I realized now

I was the only one doing that.

I don't think
anyone would have faulted you

for, like--
for doing those things.

So forgive me for having
a reaction--shut up.

- All right.
- Oh, good for you, Olivia.

- [BLEEP].
- [BLEEP] you.

- OK.
- [laughs]

[chuckles sarcastically]

More of the "Southern Charm"
reunion after this.

[laughs]

Coming up...
You're still mad at him.

- Yes.
- You're pissed off right now?

- Yes.
- For no reason? You're just--

- "For no reason"?
- No, Austen--

- Oh, my God.
- No.

You are an idiot.

We're back with the gang
from "Southern Charm."

Olivia, I want to start
by expressing my condolences

for the loss
of your brother, Connor.

Thank you.

Everyone really seemed
to rally around you.

And I'm assuming that was
incredibly important to you

during that time.

Yeah, I was very fortunate.

But...

like, I mean, everyone.

Everyone stepped up,
and we really appreciate that.

How's your family doing?

Mm-mm.
They're not--

you know,
they're not that good.

My parents are just trying
to get through and...

figure out the new reality.

Yeah.

I have to say, I know
this is hitting hard for you

because your brother
passed away

after filming wrapped.

[sniffles]

Send my condolences to you.

Thank you.

Austen, considering
everything you've been through

with the loss
of your own sister,

I'm sure it was so hard for you
to be on the outs with Olivia

when her brother passed.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm an overthinker.

Almost everyone here
knows that.

And I tried to just get
out of my own head

and be there for her in any way

that she would let me be, basically.

I have to assume, though,
that it meant a lot to you

to be able to at least talk
to Austen during that time.

I'm gonna take things
at my door

and just be happy
just like I did with you.

Whatever you need
or don't need,

I just, you know, realized
how important

that, you know, you are
in my life.

Considering where we had been
up until that point,

it was just nice to know
that even for a moment,

that we could put it all aside.

But, I mean,
we went to Jamaica,

what,
two weeks after the funeral?

And it really felt like it was
just like we pressed play.

Like, you said you were sorry,

and you understood
what I was going through,

but, like, neither one of you
had any kind of, like, grace

for what I was going through.

The people that came
to my room to check on me,

everyone but you two.

Like, I was literally drowning,

and you're calling me inconsistent.

You're calling me fake.

You are so up and down
and hot and cold.

One day, you're like,
"I----ing hate you."

Then the next day, you know,
you're calling me.

That's because things are
coming out about y'all

up and down, up and down.

There was just, like, no grace
and no, like, understanding,

like, no--like, give me
a timeout or something.

Like, check in, like
everyone else but you two did.

And then to expect
an apology from me.

I watched that back.

My mouth fell
on the ground like--

Mine, too.

I was like,
I think that she's going

to come to me
and say that, like,

"Holy sh--, Austen.
Like, I'm sorry

that I let my emotions
get the best of me."

I'm the one overreacting?

I'm inconsistent?
- That's because--

Like, have
some understanding.

Oh, my God.

We got to Jamaica,
and it was all fine.

And then all of a sudden,
you're just like, boom.

You know, turned.

And I was like,
what the hell just happened?

So I turned
because I was inconsistent?

I was going through some stuff.
- OK. So then I apologize.

Your whole character
is inconsistent.

What's your excuse?
- [chuckles]

OK, I'm going to move on.

We got a lot of questions
about why Venita wanted

to disinvite Taylor from
the girls' night you hosted.

Colin from Albuquerque,
New Mexico, said, "Venita,

"why did you take it upon
yourself to disinvite Taylor?

It smells a little
like a mean girl."

I'm hoping that
the invitation still stands

because I do want
to be there for Olivia.

I think that your
emotions and feelings

are too all over the place.

So I don't think
it's a good idea

for you to come over today.

What was the thought
behind that?

It's not me
being a mean girl.

It's me trying to protect
Olivia's peace

and not allow any issues
that these two had

to oversight Olivia's sadness.

Stacey from Manchester,
New Hampshire, said,

"Taylor, what did you mean
when you said

Olivia needed to be
with her real friends?"

Are you saying Leva and Venita
are not her real friends?

I did not know that love
was there in the room,

and I was just trying
to stick up for Olivia

and the fact of, wouldn't you
want to be surrounded

by your family and your friends
who know and knew Connor

and not be in front of cameras?

That was my--
- Right.

My intention.

Perfect B on Twitter said,
"Venita deserves her roses.

"She was so thoughtful
and considerate of Olivia

"at every moment.

I hope Olivia sees Venita
as MVP friend potential."

You know, last year you
and Olivia really butted heads.

There are some things that
you and I don't match on,

which is fine.

- You've known me five minutes.
- Exactly.

And you've known me
less than five minutes.

And I'm not making
these claims

that we don't match on stuff.

How can you say that?
You don't know--

Can I talk without you
interrupting it?

Like, let me actually
say my piece.

No, I think we're done.

This year,
you were her champion.

What changed?

We made the time
to grow together

and have a good friendship.

And we took that time
to work on it.

And I think that's the--
- Between seasons?

Yeah, between seasons.

Yeah, that was
a major piece of change.

What did it feel like for her
to have your back this season?

I was very grateful for it.

And that in itself
just helped us grow more.

And I'll always be
grateful for that.

Taylor, in general,
how did it feel

hearing what the ladies were
saying about you this season?

I mean, they're very right
in a lot of different ways.

I wonder,
Madison, Leva, and Venita,

you think that you, with time,

can find your way back
to Taylor?

None of us want to see her
upset like this.

You know what I mean?
Like, it breaks our heart.

None of us do.
That's, like, not--

I don't even think
Olivia wants to see that.

- I've never wanted that.
- Yeah.

And I don't think
any one of us hates you.

I think all of us are extremely
disappointed in your behavior.

And that has caused
a major setback,

you know, with the girls.

Yeah, I get that.
Thank you.

I'm not saying that
you're the worst person ever.

It's just, I have to keep you
at arm's length.

That's all.

I mean, you're not having
sleepovers at my house.

[laughter]

OK.

Let's take a break.

OK, guys,
can you do me a favor?

Try not to play with your mics
or your shirts as much

this time around.

I know it's real tight
for you guys.

Hey, Taylor.

How are we doing?
- Surviving.

Coming up...

Austen, what did we not show

that you want people
to know about you?

I wish I would have had
this stuff prepared, Andy.

Sorry.

[quirky music]

[laughter]
- Oh, my God.

I was looking at it too.

So I have an idea.

Let's talk about Austen
some more.

[laughter]
OK.

It's been a tough season
for you, tougher than most.

Jesse on Twitter said,
"During Austen's first season

on the show, he said
he was nothing like Shep."

This is my protégé, Austen.

You're a tall drink of water.

Oh, stop it.

I don't consider myself
to be Shep's protégé.

I mean, when you look
at the facts,

I'm a younger version,

arguably
a better-looking version.

Do you have a job?

I do have a job.

"Well, sorry to tell you, man.

Several seasons later,
you're exactly like Shep."

What's your reaction to that?

It's been tough to watch,
you know, my foibles

unravel on television.
- Did you watch?

No. No.

I watched half
of the season, Olivia.

- You did not watch it.
- Yes.

Craig, what do you think?

[laughing]
About what?

Is he like Shep?

Oh, I think
Austen still has a chance

to make the choice in which
direction he's going to go in,

but he's got to stop
making decisions

and then being disappointed
with the consequences.

Big problem I see is that,
like, you're a good dude,

and who you hang out with
is who you will become.

You have not really held him
that accountable,

and you keep
standing up for him.

Just be careful.

Well, do you think I should
just cut him out of my life?

With your moral compass,
I think you should stay

arm's length for a while till
you get your sh-- together.

If he wasn't trying
to get better,

then we wouldn't
be hanging out,

but that's my honest answer.

If he stops trying
to work on himself,

then yes,
I will separate myself.

Give him some space
to work on himself.

I think JT thinks
you're harder on Shep

than you are on Austen.

Shep and I have
a lot longer history.

Austen, you certainly took
a lot of knocks this season.

But you have mentioned
that you were misrepresented,

so I want to address that.

So what was misrepresented

about your relationship
with Olivia?

Oh, boy.

It was the--you know,
the merry-go-round,

where it was like,
we would talk.

And then in front of the group,
you know, she'd yell at me.

And then, you know,
she'd call me

and be like, hey, you know--
- We're just in the middle--

like, all of a sudden,
you come back into my life

during a very dark time.

You know, like--
- You're right, and--

I know, I'm just explaining,
like, the up and down

because you kept saying
I was up and down,

I was up and down.

I can understand
why people watching us

don't understand the timeline
because we didn't get together

until after cameras left,
but there was a full stretch

of six, seven, eight months

of us together,
traveling together.

- When?
- We got very, very close.

Like, after last season.
- OK, right, right. Yes.

But you dated Austen,
and he had every opportunity

to say, "We are together.
We are together."

Oh, I know.
You don't have to tell me.

"We are together,"
and you were ready.

I mean, I know
you were ready to do that.

You don't have
to tell me that.

I know all of that.
- He found a loophole.

It's kind of brilliant.
You know what I mean?

What's the loophole?
I still like him.

The loophole is,
he's not in a relationship.

He can do whatever he wants.
"Hey!

I don't even know what we--
I don't know how to define us."

Oh, no. I know.
He does that.

I mean, that's his thing.

- You're still mad at her.
- Yes.

- You're pissed off right now?
- Yes.

- For no reason, you're just--
- "For no reason"?

- No, Austen.
- Oh, my God.

- Because you walked around--
- You are an idiot.

Because I watched
the season, man,

and it broke my----ing heart
seeing you,

like, "Hmm, whatever, hey."

And then you laughed
about kissing Taylor.

Shep, I was following
your lead.

And after we had talked--
- I gave you the--

And we got over it. OK.

Shep, you suppressed
and suppressed and suppressed.

And I'm glad to hear you
talking about your feelings

because, like, at the end
of Whitney's dinner,

I grabbed you,
and I said, "Please,

just say you're mad at Austen."

And you were doing
everything in your power

to not admit it because you--

I think you thought
it would make you weak.

Shep, why don't you say, like,
"I think it's crazy

and I don't know how to be
friends with you anymore"?

I'm a fairly happy
human being.

Everything's going well.

Are you past that?

Well, and it's sort of, like,
what are we going to do?

You know, we're all
in this together.

But watching it back
was super hard

because of this blasé attitude

and sort of, like,
you were above it all.

Austen, what did we not show

that you want people
to know about you?

I wish I would have had
this stuff prepared, Andy.

- Well, you've told me, like--
- What did I say to you, Craig?

You gonna come save him,
Craig?

I help everyone, JT,
if you haven't noticed.

Come save him again.

Do you want to say anything
to Shep, your friend,

who's upset at you?
- Yeah.

Shep, like, I see
you getting angry now

about things that have,
you know, transpired.

And, I mean, is that because,

like, of what's happened
in the past week or two?

Or, like, you feel like
I haven't been there for you?

- No. No. It doesn't.
- Because everything was fine--

Our conversation
at Whitney's,

I showed you a lot of grace

because I was like,
maybe he's seen the light.

I don't want to lose you
as a friend, man.

Look, man, this is going
to cause a whole bunch,

like, of ripples and tides.

And I just wanted it
to stay dead and buried

because of how insignificant--

Of course.

And if I were to lie
to you to your face,

I'd feel ten times as worse.

We're going
to hopefully figure out

how to get back
to a good place.

I'm sorry, dude.

I know.

I only knew
what I said in front of you.

- OK.
- Watching other conversations.

I was like, he doesn't even
come close to getting it.

I mean, that's how I saw.
Like, oh!

One thing after another,
I was like, this guy

is in la-la land
as far as his analyzation

of himself and his actions.

I just saw, like,
zero self-awareness.

I was watching like,
oh, my God.

Who are we dealing with here?

So then you and I in
the past, you know, two weeks,

it doesn't have
anything to do with--

Oh, I mean, I hate
that I don't talk to you.

Well, it sounds like
you're not talking

because you're kind of
on a break from him

due to his behavior.

Yeah.
I mean, I've never done that--

- And I'm OK with it.
- With you before, Shep.

I'm OK with it.

Maybe part of my behavior
is due

to some of the relationships

that I thought were strong
that aren't.

I think Austen was so loyal
to you at BravoCon

because he felt
he might be a reason

that you're spiraling.

Shep, we went and had lunch,

and he was, you know,
confiding in me.

He's like, "He's been
reaching out to Austen.

"And Austen's just basically
giving him the cold shoulder.

And it really hurts
Shep's feelings."

And I get it.

Austen just felt like,
"I just don't want to deal

with Shep and his craziness
right now."

And he took it to heart.

And I think part of that
is why he's upset.

You don't know
how hurt I was after that.

I just thought
that we needed, like--

that we needed a break.

Coming up...

I fell in love with Taylor
last year.

Pretty hard, actually.

And I'm not ashamed
to admit that.

[dramatic music]

♪

Let's clear people
out the way, please.

Let's see Andy's shot.
Ready? Here we go.

[phone ringing]

Sorry.

- Nine years.
- Nine years.

- Nine years.
- [chuckles] Sorry.

[laughter]
- And we're back.

As the new kid on the block,
JT always aimed to be

the perfect Southern gentleman.

And while his moves
on Taylor were less smooth

than his and Rod's
ass cheeks in Jamaica,

he was determined to prove

that nice guys
don't always finish last.

Oh, dude, you look good.

I'm like
a young Paul McCartney.

[gurgling]

You look like a kid
that just went

on a----ing Slip 'N Slide.

Oh!

[quirky music]

Whoo!

He's going to go
way down to the bottom.

How was your first season
on the show, JT?

It was one
of the most--coolest things

as a human being
just to have this experience.

It was awesome.

Your mom Bunny got a lot
of love on social media.

Hey, what's going on
with the furniture?

I chose it.

It seems to be
pulled together.

It's killing me to stand here.

It's killing you
to stand here?

- Mm-hmm.
- How is she?

She's fantastic.

Actually, at BravoCon, fans,

they were asking me
to FaceTime her.

She was actually cooler
than me at BravoCon.

She wasn't even there.

[laughter]
- That's nice.

I know you grew up
with four sisters.

Did that play a big part in how
you treat women as an adult?

Yeah.
I mean, I grew up

with one OG sister,
I guess you would say.

- Right.
- First sister.

And it was me, her,
and my brother.

And I was kind of a sh--.
- [laughs]

And then we got
three stepsisters later on.

OK.

And that turned
the tide of power

at the dinner table
in the house.

And I learned how to be
held accountable quickly.

JT, we saw you take some heat
from the guys this season.

Is there a breakup toast
for breaking up?

No.

You haven't broken up
with anybody?

You'd need a girlfriend
for a breakup.

[laughter]

The last piece
of the puzzle has arrived.

Smallest piece of the puzzle.

- Oh, Bam.
- [laughs]

She's leaving with his stuff.

Oh, that's amazing.

Shep, what would you say

to the next girl
that hooks up with JT?

- I'm sorry.
- Don't wear heels.

Sorry.
[laughter]

Shep, is JT your new Craig?

[laughs]

I think JT likes the ribbing.

That's what you used to say
about me.

You're like, "Craig likes it."
[laughter]

Meanwhile, Craig's, like,
crying in the corner.

That's true.

Maybe I'm reading
the room wrong.

JT, you started the season
by telling the guys

you didn't have feelings
for Taylor.

What is going on?

JT is in love with the girl.

Craig, I'm not
in love with her.

I guess I was being
disingenuous with the boys,

initially, because I wanted
to maybe play it cool.

I fell in love
with Taylor last year.

Pretty hard, actually.

And I'm not ashamed
to admit that.

August from Summit,
New Jersey, said,

"Taylor, JT's got a great body.
He respects women.

He has a successful career,
all the things Shep lacks."

[laughter]
- Oh, Jesus.

"Why not JT?"

I mean, I love JT.

He's an amazing human being.
He's fun to be around.

He doesn't treat you
like sh--.

No, he does not.

And that doesn't--
and you don't like that.

- I guess not.
- Wow.

Nice guys finish last.

- Wow.
- Unfortunately.

You finished first.

I had to be a little bad.

JT, you lit the match
that sparked an explosion

between Austen and Shep.

When you have a sleepover
with a girl

that is your friend's ex--

This is weird.

Wow.

Why'd you bring it up?

I feel like Austen would
never have actually told Shep.

And if I was in that situation,

I would want one of my buddies

to out somebody
who was doing that to me.

Austen, did it break
bro-fessional courtesy by--

I mean, I thought that it was
brownnosing at its finest.

I mean, he showed up,
and he was trying

to gain Shep's favor
like I've never seen before,

but that's typical
behavior, JT.

It was just funny.

I was just like,
what are you doing?

You were shell-shocked.

Why am I the one who has
to bring this up months later?

It was last October
before BravoCon.

You don't have to be.

You're just choosing to be
this little douchebag.

Austen, if he hadn't have
said something, I mean, gosh.

I don't know.
I don't know.

I don't think anyone--
any of us would have known

if JT hadn't said anything.
- That's right.

Rodrigo, what do you think
of all this?

I just feel like
you saw an opportunity

to kind of, you know, weasel
your way in towards Taylor.

I just wanted
to tell the truth.

And then in the process,
you're, like,

you know, [BLEEP] him,
[BLEEP] him, [BLEEP] him.

- Oh, yeah. I'm the bad guy.
- And you're using it as,

like, "Hey, I'm here for Shep."
- Exactly, Rodrigo.

Rodrigo,
what a brilliant assessment

that I'm the bad guy here.

You guys can't
gaslight somebody

for doing the right thing.

What do you think, Rod?

You know,
if JT didn't say something,

I think this would be
a completely different

dynamic between everyone.

I think
all of these friendships

would be very different.

And, you know, he kind of
shed light into that.

And there'd be
deception behind it.

I think it was good
that it came out.

But is there any truth
in saying, JT,

that you were intending
to get closer to Taylor

at the time?

Maybe you thought
you were getting

the competition out of the way
or, like,

being a knight
in shining armor.

He deserves
to know the truth,

and that's why I brought it up.

- I read it that way too.
- By the way--

He was just like, "What?
Who are you, guys?

How does this work?"

By the way,
the rumor was circling.

Leva, what are you saying?

Over the summer,
many people came to me

and said
that they were hooking up.

You know what I mean?

Let's just focus
on what you guys did

and not him
telling the truth, you know?

He was the arbiter of truth.

He brought the truth
to the light.

Do you think
they're still lying

about the extent
of what happened?

Taylor has sworn to me, um--

do I--I know.

I certainly know
Austen's sexual appetite.

And I just find that
hard to believe.

OK. And you, Olivia?

I do, but I really--
I don't care.

I mean, this would be
the time to come out with it.

Venita, you think what?

I think that I'm not
going to go tell my mama

I'm considering dating somebody
if I'm not----ing them,

I'm sorry.

[tense music]

This seems like a great time
to take a break.

♪

Coming up...

Are you in love with Taylor?

I would be lying if I said

I didn't recently say
I've made a mistake.

I would be lying if I said
that wasn't the case.

Wow.

Wait, hold on.

[quirky music]

Oh, that was to Derek.

- I need my mommy.
- It's giving mommy, right?

Mm-hmm.
Mommy Marilyn.

All right, guys, guys, guys.

We're going to go in a second.

Andy, we're going to bump in
on this one.

All right,
let's get back into it.

This season, we watched
as things came to a head

at the finale,
and it really went to a place

that we've never seen before
on the show.

I'm talking man to man
to you right now.

My point is this.

I'm a child?

You're a little boy
who cried wolf

wrapped in a 6'5" frame.

And now I'm at your height

looking at you
man to man in the face.

And guess what.
- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!

Why did it get physical
between the two of you?

I don't know.

I have to, like,
attribute it to, like,

him getting, like,
a, you know, rejection.

Like, I love you.

[tense music]

I would marry you tomorrow.

You know, Shep's still here.

It's like--
- Right.

I think I just still need
some time

to, like, process and heal
and move forward.

I was in the bar.

You came in,
and you pushed me first.

If I wasn't here,
do you think

that you and Taylor
would be together

or something like that?

This has nothing to do--
you have to bifurcate that,

my love for Taylor and my
disdain for your toxicity.

Those are two
totally separate--

- What was the word?
- Bifurcate.

He just calls you out

for things that you are,
and you don't like it.

I called you out
for being a sh--bag

for the whole season.
- I mean he does it

in annoying ways,
but he's not wrong.

And I called you out.

Taylor had nothing
to do with this.

You had everything to do
with why I called you out.

Watching it back,
it sure as sh-- seems like it.

You only watch, what,
half the episodes?

And you're not very smart.
- [laughs]

I'm actually helping you

and forming
this argument for you

so you can----ing wake up
and learn how to be a man.

Buddy,
it's your first season,

so no one knows what a piece
of sh-- that you are.

Like, don't hide
behind the fact

that you just called yourself
a gentleman 38 times,

and you think that that means
that you're a gentleman.

Like, we know who you are.

Who was to blame
for the fight?

- I mean--
- For it getting physical?

JT was pretty aggressive
in that moment

and sort of forced
Austen's hand.

I left the room.
I saw where it was going.

I was like, I don't like this.
I don't like this.

Nobody makes
somebody punch them.

You can step back.
So, like, let's now not.

Well, did you headbutt him
first or did--

No, I said
your friends don't trust you.

You overheated,
pushed me once, then again.

JT, you were in my face.

And you said,
"I'm in your face now.

I'm in your face.
I'm in your face."

Have you two spoken
since that night?

No.

Have either of you
apologized to each other?

We haven't spoken, Andy.

So you haven't
apologized to him.

- For what?
- For getting in his face.

I didn't get in his face.
He got in my face.

You were trying to get him
to punch you, right?

- Yes. 100%.
- No. I was trying--

Come on. Are you kidding me?
[laughter]

What did you think
was going to happen?

I was at the bar.

You didn't think he was
going to get physical with you?

I was minding
my own business and then--

You were minding
your own business?

I would have punched.

If someone did that to me,
I would knock him.

All right.

JT, why is Austen the bad guy

when it comes to Taylor
and not Shep?

I think Shep is accountable
for the fact

that he didn't feel like
he was going to be able

to give her the life
with his tendencies

to be a philanderer,

whereas I think
Austen manipulates,

gets women in the gray area,
and then gaslights his way out,

lies and covers things up,
and is a narcissist egomaniac

who thrives in that space.

Oh, my God.

OK.

Jeff from New Hope,
Pennsylvania, said,

"If I have to listen to JT say,
'Stand up and apologize,'

one more time,
I'm going to scream."

Stand up
and be a----ing man.

You still haven't
grabbed your manhood

and stood up like a man.

You're not apologetic.

You don't stand up
and hold this guy accountable.

And you're standing up for him?
- No, you're worked up.

JT, what was it about Austen
that got you so worked up?

- I mean--
- Those things he just said.

Yeah. I mean, it's pretty--
[laughter]

- Repeat what he just said.
- Yeah.

[laughter]

JT, is there anything
that Austen can do now

that would change your mind
about stuff?

Very good question.

I think we're beginning
the process now

by having hard conversations
like this,

where you hear what it is
to be an honest, good friend

and man.
- OK.

But you got to do
the work, bro.

It's not words.
It's time and effort

and authenticity.
- Yes.

Like, I want to root for you,

but you got to be held accountable.

I think I've been held
accountable for a long time.

- This is real
- boy therapy.

- That is--
- OK. Well, guess what.

We do it once a year
right here.

You claimed you didn't
hook up with the two women

that Madison found
in your apartment.

Why were her panties off?

I don't--Andy.

Do you think you're leading
women on by not committing?

He will never commit.

That's not true, actually.

That's actually not true.
- It is actually true.

But he didn't go home
with Ciara to, like, hurt you.

I was, like,
I need to talk to her.

Naked?

We're on the Austen-go-round.

You just got on,
but we're going around.

Austen, you said in Jamaica
that Rod and JT should take

a page out of your book,
since guys like you and Shep

actually land the girls.

So I'm curious if you have
any tips for JT.

I don't think
anything can save this guy.

Take it back, Austen.
Take it back.

You're a coward.

You coached Taylor to lie.
- No.

Then you stole her chance
to tell Olivia--

Taylor did I coach you
to lie?

Taylor, can you tell
your chihuahua

that I did not coach you
to lie?

She even says,

"I feel terrible
because I just lied to Olivia.

I'm glad you feel better."
Like, y'all had a conversation.

Like, you told her to lie.

Yeah.
I was well within my right.

Nobody was dating anyone.

It's because Taylor and I had
had, you know, conversations.

No. But does he look--

[all talking at once]
- I know. God.

Do you want to say something?

I will say this--
you know, my--

I'm not good at this stuff.

OK.

So I just was trying
to protect Olivia.

I genuinely just didn't know
how to handle the situation.

My whole intention of coming
out here was to fix this.

Obviously, I know that
that's probably not going

to be the resolution today.

I hope that it is
at some point.

And I genuinely
apologize again.

I apologize to people
that I've hurt

and for the things
that I've done along the way.

And Shep, too,
I apologize as well.

You have nothing
to apologize to me for.

My heart breaks
for you, honestly,

every single day
with what you and your family

are going through, honestly.

And, like,
I'm even more sad that, like,

I couldn't be there for you
in the way that I feel like--

it's kind of crazy that I can

because I actually know
how you're feeling.

And, like,
that has been sad to me,

but I don't ever wish bad
on you.

I hated this for you,
despite what you think

and despite
what you tell people.

Like, I don't like
that this is all happening.

Let me ask you this.

What would you need
to hear from her

in order to move forward?

That is not happening.

I will not be friends with you,

but I'm not going to make this
miserable for you.

I'm not going to be negative.

We can move forward.

That doesn't necessarily mean together.

OK.

All right, we are going
to leave it there.

I want to thank Rod and Rodrigo
for being here.

Thanks so much.
[applause]

And we are going
to be right back.

OK, they're going
to pee really quick.

This is funny.

Yeah.

[indistinct chatter]

There's, like, emotions
going on

Like, and I do still love
and care about Shep,

and I'm watching him, like,
go through all this stuff

that I'm so happy
and proud of him for,

but, like,
it's, like, hard too.

- OK.
- OK, [indistinct].

[tense music]

Andy, I'm about
to send it to you.

Four, three, two, one.

We are back wrapping up
season 9 of "Southern Charm."

You know, one thing
that's clear to me

after today is that
this season has

created some pretty big cracks

in the foundation
of this group.

But I have to say,
you know, Taylor,

I've been watching you
all night,

and I've been watching,
you know,

the way you've been
looking at Shep.

And it feels,
from where I'm sitting,

that there's still
quite a lot of emotion there.

Yeah, I mean, I have
a lot of love there still.

Always will, no matter what.

And I'm here for you.

I'm really happy
and proud of you.

I have a lot of love
for you too.

I think
they'll get married.

I do.
I think you guys will

get back together one day.

That's what I--like,
that's just my prediction.

Wow.

Do you love him?

I will always love him.
Yeah, absolutely.

Are you in love with him?

No.

Are you in love with Taylor?

I would be lying if I said
I didn't recently say

I made a mistake,

you know, and I'm scared
to look back and say,

I've--like, you know,
the one that got away still,

So I would be lying if I said
that wasn't the case.

- Wow.
- Wow.

You know, Shep,
you and Austen

are in an interesting place.

On the one hand, you know,
it seems like you're finally

accessing some anger at him
that you weren't in touch with

while you were filming
and actually living through

what was being revealed.

And then separately,
Austen feels like

he's had to take care of you,

as you've been
kind of misbehaving

or drunk or however
you want to call it.

- Off course.
- Off course.

And though he's appreciative

of you working through this
right now,

he's saying
he needs some space.

So how do the two of you
move forward?

I always will want to,
you know, move forward

with the friendship,
you know, with Shep.

I don't even know
what that world, you know,

looks like to not be
great buds with you, Shep.

Part of the thing here is that
I have been an enabler

for a long time, you know.

I've been a part of it.

Like, we've cut it up
with the best of them.

And so that's where I am.

Maybe it's redefining
what you do together, you know?

Maybe you try to figure out
things to do together

without alcohol.

Maybe so.

What do you think?

[sighs]

I mean, the reason
that things went down

and I was so--

as Craig said, just sort of
suppressed everything,

was because of all the love
that I had for Austen,

And maybe it's time
I sort of cultivate

relationships in another vein,

you know what I mean,
in other people.

Right. Wow.

The three of us,
we have so much history,

and we do everything together.

But I think that you finding
your new normal is important.

- That's right.
- It's very wise.

Well, can we all
finally agree

that we need to find people
outside of the friend group

to date?
- Yes.

OK. Very good.

Did we exorcise
a----boy tonight?

No. It didn't happen.
- Oh, come on.

- Not even halfway there.
- Come on.

- Not even halfway.
- We can't--

- We're gonna need another--
- We gotta finish it.

You're sweating everywhere.
At least something's happening.

- Jeez.
- You know--

like, I think
he did a good job.

Give him that.
The listening.

I took it all.

- What more did you want?
- We'll try it again next year.

We'll try it again next year.
- No, I can't do it anymore.

I can't.

[laughter]

All right, we are going
to leave it there.

In the spirit
of good vibrations,

we have some Jamaican rum punch
to toast with.

Oh, boy.

And just to be safe,
we made everyone tinfoil hats

to keep all your thoughts intact.

- Oh, my gosh, yes.
- Oh, my God, I love it.

I know you were going
to grab that one right away.

- You want this one?
- I'd like this one.

- I look like Alfalfa.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, no,
that's a dildo, Taylor.

Just want to point out,
Shep has juice.

- Yes.
- OK?

- OK.
- No rum.

- Step number one.
- Starting off on the good--

- Yeah.
- Good path.

- Yeah.
- You have a toast

for us, Shep?
- Yeah.

So someone's asked another person,

"Do you ever cry?"

He said, "It is important

"to use
all the range of emotions,

"because I have soared
with the eagles,

"and I've slithered
with the snakes,

"and I've been everywhere
in between.

"And the only
guarantee in this life

"is that there are
no guarantees.

"Life doesn't owe you anything.

"You're going to fall down.
You're going to trip.

"You're going to get
knocked down.

"You get up you get back in
the game, and you persevere.

And you rely
on those who love you."

So here's perseverance
in the face of adversity.

- Cheers.
- All right.

- OK.
- Well done.

- One, two, three.
- Cheers.

- And one, two, three.
- Cheers.

- Whoo!
- Thank, guys.

Cheers.

On to the next chapter.

I want to thank the gang
from "Southern Charm"

for another fantastic season.

I'm Andy Cohen.
No aliens get in here.

Good night, everybody.

We're protecting you
from aliens?

Is that what it is?
- Oh, it's from the people.

- The pandas.
- The people.

[laughs]