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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,048 --> 00:00:07,756 WILLIAM SHATNER: Deals with the Devil, 2 00:00:07,842 --> 00:00:09,758 portals to hell 3 00:00:09,844 --> 00:00:13,303 and innocent people possessed by demons. 4 00:00:16,934 --> 00:00:19,768 For thousands of years, people around the world 5 00:00:19,854 --> 00:00:23,605 have believed in the existence of Satan, 6 00:00:23,691 --> 00:00:27,818 an entity that is thought to be the embodiment 7 00:00:27,945 --> 00:00:30,946 of pure evil. 8 00:00:31,032 --> 00:00:34,074 But is Satan just a myth? 9 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:36,744 A figment of our collective imagination? 10 00:00:38,748 --> 00:00:41,790 Or is he lurking, 11 00:00:41,876 --> 00:00:44,826 ready to tempt us 12 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,589 and possess our souls? 13 00:00:48,674 --> 00:00:53,135 Well, that is what we will try and find out. 14 00:00:53,220 --> 00:00:55,220 ♪ ♪ 15 00:01:06,901 --> 00:01:08,901 ♪ ♪ 16 00:01:11,238 --> 00:01:13,188 The Holy Land. 17 00:01:14,116 --> 00:01:16,358 For thousands of years, religious pilgrims 18 00:01:16,452 --> 00:01:20,746 of many faiths have come to this sacred city to express 19 00:01:20,831 --> 00:01:23,540 their devotion to God. 20 00:01:23,667 --> 00:01:27,503 But just outside the walls of Jerusalem 21 00:01:27,588 --> 00:01:31,381 lies the Valley of Hinnom, 22 00:01:31,509 --> 00:01:35,219 an ancient place of unholy worship 23 00:01:35,346 --> 00:01:38,764 where evil deeds were performed long ago 24 00:01:38,849 --> 00:01:43,393 in honor of God's enemy, Satan. 25 00:01:46,107 --> 00:01:48,190 In the book of Jeremiah, God reports, 26 00:01:48,275 --> 00:01:51,485 through His prophet, that people outside Jerusalem 27 00:01:51,570 --> 00:01:53,395 in a place called the Valley of Hinnom, 28 00:01:53,489 --> 00:01:56,281 are sacrificing their sons, and also their daughters. 29 00:01:56,367 --> 00:01:59,401 And God explicitly says, "I never asked you 30 00:01:59,495 --> 00:02:02,571 to do this satanic ritual," 31 00:02:02,665 --> 00:02:04,706 and expresses that He's angry, 32 00:02:04,792 --> 00:02:07,626 that there's going to be a terrible punishment for this. 33 00:02:09,171 --> 00:02:12,581 Historically speaking, in the days of the Bible, 34 00:02:12,675 --> 00:02:15,551 not everybody was faithful to the Lord. 35 00:02:15,636 --> 00:02:19,754 Satanism influenced the Israelite community. 36 00:02:19,849 --> 00:02:22,090 And what they would do, literally, 37 00:02:22,184 --> 00:02:25,394 was they'd create a big pit of fire, 38 00:02:25,479 --> 00:02:27,929 and they actually would sacrifice 39 00:02:28,023 --> 00:02:31,483 their firstborn male through the fire. 40 00:02:31,569 --> 00:02:36,905 This was performed in the Valley of Hinnom, 41 00:02:36,991 --> 00:02:41,076 which is actually the Hebrew word today for "hell." 42 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,998 I can't imagine what would cause someone 43 00:02:46,083 --> 00:02:48,617 to want to sacrifice their own child, 44 00:02:48,711 --> 00:02:51,211 to anything, for-for any reason. 45 00:02:52,298 --> 00:02:55,507 But this demonstrates how, 46 00:02:55,593 --> 00:03:00,804 in antiquity, people believed that their crops wouldn't grow, 47 00:03:00,931 --> 00:03:06,393 that the rains wouldn't come if they didn't offer sacrifices 48 00:03:06,478 --> 00:03:11,940 up to some satanic demons, spirits, whatever. 49 00:03:12,026 --> 00:03:16,695 And now you have introduced this new being 50 00:03:16,780 --> 00:03:19,489 that's responsible for the bad things, 51 00:03:19,617 --> 00:03:22,984 and his name comes to be Satan. 52 00:03:23,078 --> 00:03:25,954 SHATNER: What can explain the shocking events 53 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,248 that took place in the Valley of Hinnom 54 00:03:28,334 --> 00:03:30,417 thousands of years ago? 55 00:03:30,502 --> 00:03:33,662 Was it simply the result of human wickedness? 56 00:03:33,756 --> 00:03:37,832 Or is it possible that, as the biblical accounts suggest, 57 00:03:37,927 --> 00:03:43,430 Satan and his demons were and still are real entities 58 00:03:43,515 --> 00:03:46,975 that have the power to influence people? 59 00:03:47,061 --> 00:03:49,010 MIKKI BROCK: Some people think of Satan as Beelzebub 60 00:03:49,104 --> 00:03:52,514 or Lucifer or the Prince of Darkness 61 00:03:52,608 --> 00:03:55,684 or "the evil one" or Old Nick. 62 00:03:55,778 --> 00:03:59,521 And some of these names come from scripture. 63 00:03:59,615 --> 00:04:01,782 A lot of them come from folklore. 64 00:04:03,452 --> 00:04:06,194 And if you think of Satan as this ubiquitous figure 65 00:04:06,288 --> 00:04:09,581 who's constantly tormenting and tempting people, 66 00:04:09,667 --> 00:04:13,034 then it makes sense that the Devil can be known 67 00:04:13,128 --> 00:04:17,047 by all of these different nicknames. 68 00:04:17,174 --> 00:04:21,710 Is there really a character of the Satan? 69 00:04:21,804 --> 00:04:24,513 Well, the definition of that is going to differ 70 00:04:24,598 --> 00:04:26,715 between the major world religions. 71 00:04:26,809 --> 00:04:32,980 But fear of an eternal damnation in the afterlife 72 00:04:33,065 --> 00:04:38,944 has always been sufficient to keep people religious, 73 00:04:39,029 --> 00:04:42,731 and in line with the beliefs of their religious clerics, 74 00:04:42,825 --> 00:04:45,534 who warn them that failure to comply 75 00:04:45,619 --> 00:04:49,121 will lead to an eternity of suffering and damnation. 76 00:04:49,206 --> 00:04:53,575 Or in other words, the stories from which this developed 77 00:04:53,669 --> 00:04:55,377 were to teach moral lessons. 78 00:04:56,630 --> 00:04:59,247 LAYCOCK: Throughout history, many religions have 79 00:04:59,341 --> 00:05:01,466 interpreted the world through the lens of having 80 00:05:01,552 --> 00:05:03,302 a figure of evil, Satan, who is responsible 81 00:05:03,387 --> 00:05:04,678 for evil in the world. 82 00:05:05,556 --> 00:05:07,180 According to Christian tradition, 83 00:05:07,266 --> 00:05:09,850 Satan was one of the most powerful 84 00:05:09,935 --> 00:05:11,643 and beautiful of the angels. 85 00:05:11,729 --> 00:05:13,854 He rebelled against God, 86 00:05:13,939 --> 00:05:15,647 a third of the angels sided with Satan, 87 00:05:15,733 --> 00:05:17,441 and there was a war in heaven. 88 00:05:18,402 --> 00:05:21,770 Satan lost and was cast down into hell. 89 00:05:21,864 --> 00:05:24,614 Satan is the embodiment of evil, 90 00:05:24,742 --> 00:05:29,745 a fallen angel who tempts you to not follow your best values. 91 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:35,584 He is a god of sorts and he can offer something like that to us, 92 00:05:35,669 --> 00:05:39,287 great knowledge, control, mastery. 93 00:05:39,381 --> 00:05:40,955 The stuff of transcendence. 94 00:05:41,050 --> 00:05:43,124 Of course, it will cost us everything. 95 00:05:43,218 --> 00:05:45,093 After all, this is not a straight shooter. 96 00:05:45,179 --> 00:05:47,295 This is not somebody who's going to tell the truth. 97 00:05:47,389 --> 00:05:49,464 His job is to tempt you. 98 00:05:49,558 --> 00:05:52,634 CHRIS BADER: Satan is believed to have tried to tempt Jesus 99 00:05:52,728 --> 00:05:56,271 when he was in the desert with visions of earthly delights. 100 00:05:56,357 --> 00:05:58,807 So Satan is continually, throughout the Bible, 101 00:05:58,901 --> 00:06:02,778 someone trying to draw people from God to evil. 102 00:06:02,863 --> 00:06:05,980 But the idea of Satan flows throughout history 103 00:06:06,075 --> 00:06:08,367 and across religions. 104 00:06:08,452 --> 00:06:12,120 There is Mara in Buddhism, who is a demonic king, 105 00:06:12,206 --> 00:06:15,248 a entity representing evil, and therefore, 106 00:06:15,334 --> 00:06:17,667 would tend to take on very frightening forms 107 00:06:17,795 --> 00:06:21,421 which oftentimes are mixtures of human and animal. 108 00:06:21,507 --> 00:06:25,509 There is Iblis, who is the Islamic representation of Satan. 109 00:06:25,636 --> 00:06:29,003 So, we see this figure of Satan, a singular entity 110 00:06:29,098 --> 00:06:33,767 that is in charge of evil across religions and over time. 111 00:06:33,852 --> 00:06:37,813 BROCK: In Western Europe, we start to see depictions 112 00:06:37,898 --> 00:06:41,316 of the Devil around the eighth and ninth century. 113 00:06:41,402 --> 00:06:45,520 And the Devil becomes depicted all over churches, 114 00:06:45,614 --> 00:06:49,858 in various other sorts of art and statue and so forth. 115 00:06:49,952 --> 00:06:54,028 He is always portrayed as a monstrous beast, 116 00:06:54,123 --> 00:06:58,867 half human, half animal, sometimes winged, 117 00:06:58,961 --> 00:07:04,131 sometimes horned, sometimes red, sometimes black, 118 00:07:04,216 --> 00:07:07,426 occasionally surrounded by his subordinate demons, 119 00:07:07,511 --> 00:07:11,012 and often emerging from the flames of hell. 120 00:07:11,098 --> 00:07:15,892 SHATNER: Does this universal belief in an evil, 121 00:07:16,019 --> 00:07:17,978 tempting enemy of God 122 00:07:18,063 --> 00:07:22,023 suggest that Satan, by whatever name he's called, 123 00:07:22,109 --> 00:07:23,892 is actually real? 124 00:07:23,986 --> 00:07:27,228 According to one of the most important spiritual leaders 125 00:07:27,322 --> 00:07:31,950 in the world, the answer is an emphatic yes. 126 00:07:40,002 --> 00:07:42,252 Pope Francis publishes a statement 127 00:07:42,379 --> 00:07:45,213 which contains a dire warning to those who don't believe 128 00:07:45,299 --> 00:07:48,383 in the existence of Satan. 129 00:07:48,469 --> 00:07:50,084 The pope declared 130 00:07:50,179 --> 00:07:53,421 that "we should not think of the Devil as a myth, 131 00:07:53,515 --> 00:07:55,640 "a representation, a symbol, 132 00:07:55,726 --> 00:07:58,393 "a figure of speech or an idea. 133 00:07:58,479 --> 00:08:01,646 "This mistake would lead us to let down our guard, 134 00:08:01,732 --> 00:08:06,735 "to grow careless and end up more vulnerable." 135 00:08:08,739 --> 00:08:12,106 Pope Francis has spoken about the reality of Satan 136 00:08:12,201 --> 00:08:14,242 than the previous popes have. 137 00:08:14,328 --> 00:08:19,039 And he often speaks about Satan as a-a real person, of course. 138 00:08:19,124 --> 00:08:22,000 And also, that, he said, "Don't try to argue with Satan. 139 00:08:22,085 --> 00:08:23,284 "Don't get into a dialogue with Satan 140 00:08:23,378 --> 00:08:26,880 because he'll outfox you," which is good advice. 141 00:08:28,008 --> 00:08:29,216 BROCK: The current pope, 142 00:08:29,301 --> 00:08:30,926 who people usually think of 143 00:08:31,011 --> 00:08:33,136 as being this sort of progressive figure, 144 00:08:33,263 --> 00:08:37,131 he talks about the powers of Satan as a literal entity. 145 00:08:37,226 --> 00:08:39,476 But the Devil is still a very powerful force 146 00:08:39,603 --> 00:08:42,812 who sort of lurks in the bounds of our imagination, 147 00:08:42,940 --> 00:08:46,474 and for some people, genuine belief. 148 00:08:46,568 --> 00:08:49,310 It's a common misconception amongst academics 149 00:08:49,404 --> 00:08:52,981 and secular people that the Devil is an outmoded idea, 150 00:08:53,075 --> 00:08:54,649 that it went away in the Middle Ages, 151 00:08:54,743 --> 00:08:56,368 and that couldn't be further from the truth. 152 00:08:56,453 --> 00:08:58,787 Very recent data from the United States 153 00:08:58,872 --> 00:09:01,489 shows that over half of Americans believe 154 00:09:01,583 --> 00:09:04,960 that the Devil is a real entity, not merely an idea. 155 00:09:06,964 --> 00:09:10,832 There are certainly many who believe in the Devil, 156 00:09:10,926 --> 00:09:12,676 uh, by whatever name, 157 00:09:12,803 --> 00:09:16,004 and that doesn't mean it's just fantasy. 158 00:09:16,098 --> 00:09:18,006 There's something happening. 159 00:09:18,100 --> 00:09:20,842 Human beings are encountering something more than themselves, 160 00:09:20,936 --> 00:09:22,936 so one theory is it's the Devil. 161 00:09:24,481 --> 00:09:26,180 LAYCOCK: I think that our ideas about things 162 00:09:26,275 --> 00:09:28,358 like supernatural evil tend to depend 163 00:09:28,485 --> 00:09:30,652 on the situation we're in and what's happening to us 164 00:09:30,737 --> 00:09:32,070 on a given day. 165 00:09:32,155 --> 00:09:34,281 And ultimately, many people say 166 00:09:34,366 --> 00:09:37,242 they absolutely believe in the existence of Satan. 167 00:09:41,957 --> 00:09:45,792 If Satan is actually real, 168 00:09:45,877 --> 00:09:47,752 then it begs the question: 169 00:09:47,838 --> 00:09:53,675 how does he travel from hell or wherever he is to Earth? 170 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:58,513 Perhaps the answers can be found by examining a city 171 00:09:58,599 --> 00:10:00,715 located in the mountains of China. 172 00:10:00,809 --> 00:10:04,552 A city that many believe 173 00:10:04,646 --> 00:10:07,897 is a portal to Hell. 174 00:10:12,362 --> 00:10:15,063 SHATNER: High in the mountains of Central China, 175 00:10:15,157 --> 00:10:17,282 along the banks of the Yangtze river, 176 00:10:17,367 --> 00:10:20,410 lies a complex of shrines and temples 177 00:10:20,537 --> 00:10:25,081 that is known as Fengdu Ghost City. 178 00:10:25,208 --> 00:10:27,075 According to the Chinese legend, 179 00:10:27,169 --> 00:10:28,910 Fengdu is considered to be a place 180 00:10:29,004 --> 00:10:33,882 where our world meets the underworld. 181 00:10:33,967 --> 00:10:38,219 As you're approaching Fengdu City on Ming mountain, 182 00:10:38,305 --> 00:10:40,930 you're imagining something that's gonna be beautiful, 183 00:10:41,058 --> 00:10:43,099 but instead you see these depictions 184 00:10:43,226 --> 00:10:46,978 of hellish images, and devilish creatures 185 00:10:47,064 --> 00:10:50,815 are actually devouring human beings. 186 00:10:50,901 --> 00:10:53,068 One of the first things that you encounter, uh, 187 00:10:53,153 --> 00:10:56,154 when entering the complex is, um, actually a gate 188 00:10:56,239 --> 00:10:58,439 that is shaped as the head of a demon, 189 00:10:58,533 --> 00:11:02,035 and you have to enter it through its open mouth. 190 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,112 So it's a very impressive first sight 191 00:11:04,206 --> 00:11:06,164 that the visitor encounters. 192 00:11:06,249 --> 00:11:09,167 JEREMIAH: Walking through this complex 193 00:11:09,252 --> 00:11:11,953 is like walking through hell itself. 194 00:11:12,047 --> 00:11:15,957 It's supposedly the place where the Devil actually resides. 195 00:11:16,051 --> 00:11:19,460 SHATNER: The vast array of devilish statues and carvings 196 00:11:19,554 --> 00:11:21,680 found throughout Fengdu have earned the city 197 00:11:21,765 --> 00:11:24,599 a ghoulish reputation. 198 00:11:24,685 --> 00:11:27,936 But why did the ancient Chinese feel the need to create 199 00:11:28,021 --> 00:11:31,523 an entire city filled with such ghastly depictions 200 00:11:31,608 --> 00:11:34,308 of the forces of evil? 201 00:11:34,403 --> 00:11:37,812 Well, Fengdu Ghost City is believed to have been 202 00:11:37,906 --> 00:11:41,282 first built during the Han dynasty 203 00:11:41,368 --> 00:11:43,651 around the year 200 AD. 204 00:11:43,745 --> 00:11:45,829 The city was constructed to represent 205 00:11:45,956 --> 00:11:48,164 Chinese believes about the afterlife, 206 00:11:48,291 --> 00:11:53,661 and how a person's soul is judged after death. 207 00:11:53,755 --> 00:11:56,631 STEAVU: The Fengdu Ghost City is a type 208 00:11:56,717 --> 00:12:01,010 of purgatory space in Chinese conceptions of the underworld. 209 00:12:02,347 --> 00:12:03,930 It's a place where the souls 210 00:12:04,015 --> 00:12:07,008 of recently-deceased people are brought 211 00:12:07,102 --> 00:12:10,478 so that they can be in front of the court of the underworld, 212 00:12:10,564 --> 00:12:14,566 and tried and judged for all the actions, 213 00:12:14,651 --> 00:12:16,401 the good deeds and the misdeeds, 214 00:12:16,486 --> 00:12:19,353 that they performed during their life. 215 00:12:19,448 --> 00:12:21,990 If their karmic balance is positive, 216 00:12:22,075 --> 00:12:24,525 then after their judgement, they are taken 217 00:12:24,619 --> 00:12:26,578 to various celestial realms 218 00:12:26,663 --> 00:12:30,865 where they can enjoy a nicer afterlife. 219 00:12:30,959 --> 00:12:34,669 If your misdeeds overshadowed your good deeds 220 00:12:34,755 --> 00:12:37,881 during your life, then you will be unable to complete this trial 221 00:12:38,008 --> 00:12:40,675 and you will be presented for judgement forthwith 222 00:12:40,761 --> 00:12:43,720 and then carry out your sentence. 223 00:12:45,182 --> 00:12:46,681 SHATNER: The final judgement takes place 224 00:12:46,767 --> 00:12:49,517 inside the oldest temple in the city, 225 00:12:49,603 --> 00:12:54,522 where a person's soul is put on trial by King Yama, 226 00:12:54,608 --> 00:12:57,942 the gatekeeper to hell. 227 00:12:58,028 --> 00:13:00,945 STEAVU: This main building, which is actually King Yama's court, 228 00:13:01,031 --> 00:13:04,732 is presided over by a statue of King Yama, 229 00:13:04,826 --> 00:13:06,367 very fearsome in appearance. 230 00:13:06,453 --> 00:13:09,871 King Yama is the overseer of the underworld, 231 00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:11,581 in the Chinese tradition. 232 00:13:11,708 --> 00:13:16,169 So he judges the deeds and misdeeds of the deceased 233 00:13:16,254 --> 00:13:19,413 and oversees all of this distribution 234 00:13:19,508 --> 00:13:21,582 of postmortem justice. 235 00:13:21,676 --> 00:13:25,136 So he's bringing down the full power 236 00:13:25,222 --> 00:13:27,922 of the underworld state to bear 237 00:13:28,016 --> 00:13:29,924 on the people that he judges. 238 00:13:30,018 --> 00:13:34,145 And he is also flanked by a retinue of demons. 239 00:13:34,231 --> 00:13:37,232 Their role is to dole out the punishment 240 00:13:37,317 --> 00:13:41,194 and to make sure that the punishment is respected. 241 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:44,438 For those who don't go straight to the celestial realms, 242 00:13:44,533 --> 00:13:47,283 they have to spend a certain amount of time 243 00:13:47,410 --> 00:13:49,443 in the 18 levels of hell. 244 00:13:49,538 --> 00:13:51,746 And you have a variety of hells, 245 00:13:51,832 --> 00:13:54,082 you have the hell of burning oil, 246 00:13:54,167 --> 00:13:56,125 you have the hell of fire, 247 00:13:56,253 --> 00:13:58,044 you have the blood pool hell, 248 00:13:58,129 --> 00:14:00,788 in which you have to spend a time, 249 00:14:00,882 --> 00:14:02,423 sometimes close to eternity. 250 00:14:02,509 --> 00:14:05,301 The fact that this has become a major site 251 00:14:05,428 --> 00:14:08,629 that is open to the public and that people can visit 252 00:14:08,723 --> 00:14:11,966 perhaps serves as a kind of warning or an incitement, 253 00:14:12,060 --> 00:14:15,311 uh, for, uh, people to live more moral lives 254 00:14:15,438 --> 00:14:17,814 and, uh, to be kinder to others. 255 00:14:17,941 --> 00:14:21,809 SHATNER: The idea that your soul can be doomed to hell 256 00:14:21,903 --> 00:14:25,071 for eternity is concerning, to say the least. 257 00:14:25,156 --> 00:14:27,866 But it also raises an intriguing question. 258 00:14:27,951 --> 00:14:32,328 What led people to believe that this particular location 259 00:14:32,455 --> 00:14:34,664 was so strongly connected to the devil 260 00:14:34,791 --> 00:14:37,584 and hell in the first place? 261 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,504 STEAVU: There's a long history of connecting Fengdu 262 00:14:41,631 --> 00:14:43,298 to the gate of hell. 263 00:14:43,383 --> 00:14:45,833 the gui-men-guan, or the gate of demons, 264 00:14:45,927 --> 00:14:49,170 and this is considered to be the actual gate to hell, 265 00:14:49,264 --> 00:14:51,514 to the-to the courts of the underworld. 266 00:14:51,641 --> 00:14:55,935 It's the actual entrance portal to the netherworld. 267 00:14:56,021 --> 00:14:58,679 This portal to hell is actually a two-way portal, 268 00:14:58,773 --> 00:15:02,108 so not only can the deceased enter it 269 00:15:02,193 --> 00:15:04,110 to get to the netherworld, 270 00:15:04,195 --> 00:15:07,021 but you have the demons of the netherworld 271 00:15:07,115 --> 00:15:11,025 who are allowed to leave, who can emerge from it 272 00:15:11,119 --> 00:15:13,328 and sometimes wreak havoc in the world of the living. 273 00:15:13,413 --> 00:15:18,041 SHATNER: The notion that Fengdu Ghost City could be a portal to hell 274 00:15:18,168 --> 00:15:21,202 may sound far-fetched to some. 275 00:15:21,296 --> 00:15:25,039 But on the other hand, there are similar places 276 00:15:25,133 --> 00:15:29,543 throughout the world that are also thought to serve as bridges 277 00:15:29,638 --> 00:15:35,433 where Satan crosses over from his realm into ours. 278 00:15:35,518 --> 00:15:38,386 The idea of a portal to the underworld, 279 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,390 a doorway to hell, shows up in many different cultures 280 00:15:42,484 --> 00:15:45,735 and various locations. 281 00:15:45,862 --> 00:15:48,446 There are certain caves in the Mediterranean area 282 00:15:48,531 --> 00:15:54,068 that that is how you enter or someone returns from Hades. 283 00:15:54,162 --> 00:15:57,288 There's a burning bowl in Turkmenistan. 284 00:15:57,374 --> 00:15:59,791 It's actually a natural geological formation, 285 00:15:59,876 --> 00:16:02,377 but it is continually burning, 286 00:16:02,462 --> 00:16:04,745 and it looks like a gateway to hell 287 00:16:04,839 --> 00:16:06,881 if you would descend there. 288 00:16:06,967 --> 00:16:10,843 The concept was always, if Satan shows up on the Earth, 289 00:16:10,929 --> 00:16:12,679 people asked, how did he get here? 290 00:16:12,764 --> 00:16:15,589 Does he have a magic power where he can just appear 291 00:16:15,684 --> 00:16:21,562 and just disappear, or is there a way to a shortcut? 292 00:16:21,648 --> 00:16:24,098 And what happened in a lot of religions 293 00:16:24,192 --> 00:16:28,111 is you had to have some kind of way 294 00:16:28,238 --> 00:16:31,990 to get from the underworld up to the terrestrial plane. 295 00:16:32,075 --> 00:16:36,244 And so, you needed to have a cave or some kind of portal. 296 00:16:37,872 --> 00:16:39,747 BADER: These can be in graveyards, 297 00:16:39,833 --> 00:16:40,915 they can be in old mines. 298 00:16:41,001 --> 00:16:43,584 There's been a number of these reported over time. 299 00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:46,254 These places have developed a folklore or mythology 300 00:16:46,339 --> 00:16:49,799 that they are dangerous, scary places you should not be. 301 00:16:49,926 --> 00:16:51,792 And the belief about portals to hell 302 00:16:51,886 --> 00:16:54,262 is these are places where the dimensional walls are thin. 303 00:16:54,347 --> 00:16:56,797 These are places where it's easier 304 00:16:56,891 --> 00:16:59,800 for Satan and his minions to cross over. 305 00:16:59,894 --> 00:17:03,604 Portals open us up to different dimensions. 306 00:17:03,690 --> 00:17:07,275 Anyone with wisdom, who cares for their soul, 307 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:09,810 will stay far away from those locations. 308 00:17:09,904 --> 00:17:13,314 Because the nature of what has occurred there 309 00:17:13,408 --> 00:17:15,816 and continues to occur in these places 310 00:17:15,910 --> 00:17:18,486 is always a danger. 311 00:17:18,580 --> 00:17:20,788 The dark side entities are not too far away. 312 00:17:23,126 --> 00:17:25,159 Satan is clearly not trapped in hell. 313 00:17:25,253 --> 00:17:28,162 He clearly has some ability to go into our world 314 00:17:28,256 --> 00:17:30,498 and cause all sorts of problems. In fact, 315 00:17:30,592 --> 00:17:32,050 he's often imagined as being 316 00:17:32,135 --> 00:17:34,335 temporarily in control of the world. 317 00:17:34,429 --> 00:17:37,764 SHATNER: Could it really be true that Satan and his demons 318 00:17:37,849 --> 00:17:41,342 use portals to spread across the Earth? 319 00:17:41,436 --> 00:17:46,514 According to many systems of belief, the answer is yes. 320 00:17:46,608 --> 00:17:49,016 And there are some who believe that, 321 00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:51,852 once Satan has entered our world, 322 00:17:51,946 --> 00:17:57,366 he has the ability to take many different forms. 323 00:17:57,494 --> 00:18:00,861 It's recorded in ancient literature 324 00:18:00,955 --> 00:18:04,290 that these forces 325 00:18:04,375 --> 00:18:07,794 who we call shedim, or demons, 326 00:18:07,879 --> 00:18:10,538 it is well known that they can sometimes materialize 327 00:18:10,632 --> 00:18:12,206 into physical form. 328 00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:15,843 And they would look like whatever form they would choose. 329 00:18:17,013 --> 00:18:20,014 In Christian demonology, angels don't have bodies. 330 00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:21,599 Demons don't have bodies. 331 00:18:21,684 --> 00:18:24,385 So they can take whatever form they want, 332 00:18:24,479 --> 00:18:27,105 they're natural shape-shifters. 333 00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:30,942 One of the common forms that the Devil and/or his demons 334 00:18:31,027 --> 00:18:33,236 are expected to take is that of the hellhound, 335 00:18:33,363 --> 00:18:36,405 oftentimes described as a monstrous black dog 336 00:18:36,533 --> 00:18:37,490 with red eyes. 337 00:18:37,575 --> 00:18:41,068 That has been commonly reported across history, 338 00:18:41,162 --> 00:18:43,571 sometimes reported even attacking a church. 339 00:18:43,665 --> 00:18:46,707 And there have been reports of these things in modern times. 340 00:18:47,752 --> 00:18:50,128 So, we need to understand that these entities 341 00:18:50,213 --> 00:18:52,130 are not relegated to the ancient past. 342 00:18:52,215 --> 00:18:57,093 We must protect ourselves from these interactions. 343 00:18:59,097 --> 00:19:02,390 Could we be surrounded by satanic beings 344 00:19:02,475 --> 00:19:06,936 that have the power to take any shape they please? 345 00:19:07,063 --> 00:19:09,930 It's an alarming thought. At least, to most of us. 346 00:19:10,024 --> 00:19:13,192 But believe it or not, there are those 347 00:19:13,278 --> 00:19:18,772 who have actually chosen to welcome evil into their lives 348 00:19:18,867 --> 00:19:23,202 by making a deal with the Devil. 349 00:19:30,086 --> 00:19:32,003 SHATNER: This small town, 350 00:19:32,088 --> 00:19:36,048 located within an area known as the Mississippi Delta, 351 00:19:36,134 --> 00:19:39,802 has been called the Birthplace of the Blues. 352 00:19:41,014 --> 00:19:42,555 FISHOF: The Delta blues music 353 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,132 basically started in the early '20s, 354 00:19:45,226 --> 00:19:47,301 and it came from Mississippi 355 00:19:47,395 --> 00:19:49,637 and it was African American musicians 356 00:19:49,731 --> 00:19:51,639 who sang very soulfully... 357 00:19:51,733 --> 00:19:53,858 ♪ ♪ 358 00:19:53,943 --> 00:19:57,144 ...very fiercely with their guitars, with their harmonicas. 359 00:19:57,238 --> 00:19:58,812 And it wasn't usually a whole band, 360 00:19:58,907 --> 00:20:01,407 It was usually an individual person. 361 00:20:03,369 --> 00:20:05,077 SHATNER: Of all the blues musicians to play 362 00:20:05,163 --> 00:20:08,989 in Clarksdale during the 1920s and '30s, 363 00:20:09,083 --> 00:20:11,992 one of the most influential was a guitarist, 364 00:20:12,086 --> 00:20:16,130 singer and songwriter named Robert Johnson. 365 00:20:16,216 --> 00:20:17,498 SYLVESTER HOOVER: Robert Johnson, 366 00:20:17,592 --> 00:20:19,333 before he got really famous, 367 00:20:19,427 --> 00:20:22,670 he would go down on the corner and play his blues music. 368 00:20:22,764 --> 00:20:28,226 But early on in Robert Johnson's career, he wasn't that good. 369 00:20:28,311 --> 00:20:30,844 The Delta people would tell Robert Johnson, 370 00:20:30,939 --> 00:20:33,013 "You go to the cemetery and play, 371 00:20:33,107 --> 00:20:34,348 "and you would have a big audience, 372 00:20:34,442 --> 00:20:40,071 and nobody would complain how bad you play your music." 373 00:20:42,450 --> 00:20:44,858 FISHOF: Robert Johnson, in his early part of his career, 374 00:20:44,953 --> 00:20:50,665 was an okay harmonica player, not a great guitar player. 375 00:20:50,750 --> 00:20:53,834 He just, uh, basically thrown out of places 376 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,538 because he really wasn't considered very good. 377 00:20:57,632 --> 00:21:01,041 ANTHONY SHERROD: He really wasn't good at all, 378 00:21:01,135 --> 00:21:04,712 but he kept on wanting to do it, 379 00:21:04,806 --> 00:21:07,640 to show people that he had potential. 380 00:21:09,185 --> 00:21:10,601 SHATNER: When faced with the prospect 381 00:21:10,687 --> 00:21:13,521 of having his musical ambitions thwarted, 382 00:21:13,606 --> 00:21:16,557 according to legend, Robert Johnson chose to enlist 383 00:21:16,651 --> 00:21:18,734 the help of a higher power, 384 00:21:18,861 --> 00:21:22,697 by making a deal with the Devil. 385 00:21:26,494 --> 00:21:31,289 HOOVER: Peoples in the Delta would say, if you play blues 386 00:21:31,374 --> 00:21:33,416 at midnight at the crossroads, 387 00:21:33,543 --> 00:21:35,918 you gonna meet a lot of strange peoples, 388 00:21:36,045 --> 00:21:40,631 and you might meet Satan himself at the crossroad. 389 00:21:43,011 --> 00:21:44,918 And so, Robert Johnson went to the crossroad 390 00:21:45,013 --> 00:21:47,513 that Saturday night. 391 00:21:47,598 --> 00:21:49,640 He really went to the crossroads, 392 00:21:49,726 --> 00:21:51,851 gave his guitar to the Devil. 393 00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:58,274 The Devil strummed it a few times and gave it back to him, 394 00:21:58,401 --> 00:22:01,902 and from that moment on, he sold his soul to the Devil 395 00:22:01,988 --> 00:22:05,990 and became an amazing guitar player overnight. 396 00:22:06,075 --> 00:22:09,035 And that's how the legend goes. 397 00:22:13,499 --> 00:22:16,959 He came back maybe two and a half or three hours later, 398 00:22:17,086 --> 00:22:20,713 and this guy was a different person. 399 00:22:20,798 --> 00:22:23,290 After he left the crossroad, 400 00:22:23,384 --> 00:22:26,960 he was doing stuff that he couldn't do before. 401 00:22:27,055 --> 00:22:29,847 Whatever he did, he never was the same again. 402 00:22:29,932 --> 00:22:32,641 Honeyboy said he could play so great, 403 00:22:32,769 --> 00:22:35,469 people would come from here and yonder 404 00:22:35,563 --> 00:22:37,646 to hear this guy play his music. 405 00:22:37,774 --> 00:22:40,474 This guy seemed like he had a magnet 406 00:22:40,568 --> 00:22:42,643 after he left the crossroad. 407 00:22:42,737 --> 00:22:46,980 FISHOF: From that point on, he became an amazing guitar player. 408 00:22:47,075 --> 00:22:50,651 He was just a lot different than what any musician could do. 409 00:22:50,745 --> 00:22:55,155 Robert Johnson's legacy will live for many, many years. 410 00:22:55,249 --> 00:22:58,626 You cannot listen to a song from the Beatles, 411 00:22:58,711 --> 00:23:02,162 Eric Clapton, Led Zeppelin or from the Rolling Stones 412 00:23:02,256 --> 00:23:06,884 without giving credit to Robert Johnson's style 413 00:23:06,969 --> 00:23:09,261 that many of these musicians copied. 414 00:23:09,347 --> 00:23:11,004 And even Keith Richards said 415 00:23:11,099 --> 00:23:14,508 he could play the guitar like three musicians together. 416 00:23:14,602 --> 00:23:16,143 He had that ability. 417 00:23:16,229 --> 00:23:18,679 ♪ ♪ 418 00:23:18,773 --> 00:23:21,065 SHATNER: Today, Robert Johnson is widely considered 419 00:23:21,150 --> 00:23:24,518 to be one of the greatest blues performers of all time. 420 00:23:24,612 --> 00:23:28,072 And his songs are among the most influential recordings 421 00:23:28,157 --> 00:23:30,699 in the history of popular music. 422 00:23:31,953 --> 00:23:35,454 But there are many who point to the lyrics of his songs 423 00:23:35,540 --> 00:23:39,542 as evidence that he really did make a pact with Satan 424 00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:42,711 in order to achieve greatness. 425 00:23:42,839 --> 00:23:44,371 FISHOF: Robert Johnson, 426 00:23:44,465 --> 00:23:47,207 in his music, refers to the Devil 427 00:23:47,301 --> 00:23:49,427 basically by saying, "I went to the crossroads 428 00:23:49,512 --> 00:23:51,220 and fell on my knees." 429 00:23:51,347 --> 00:23:53,722 And he asked the Lord for mercy. 430 00:23:55,685 --> 00:23:58,719 BROCK: If you believe that the Devil is ever-present, 431 00:23:58,813 --> 00:24:01,480 that you can encounter him on the crossroads, 432 00:24:01,566 --> 00:24:03,399 and that's a really critical idea 433 00:24:03,526 --> 00:24:05,726 informing this notion 434 00:24:05,820 --> 00:24:08,395 of the Faustian bargain, the deal with the Devil. 435 00:24:08,489 --> 00:24:10,531 This promise of their souls 436 00:24:10,616 --> 00:24:12,908 in exchange for something else from Satan. 437 00:24:14,662 --> 00:24:18,572 This is key to the fear of the Devil. 438 00:24:18,666 --> 00:24:23,586 That Satan could be so knowing, so ubiquitous, so powerful, 439 00:24:23,713 --> 00:24:26,079 that he could know your secret wants, 440 00:24:26,174 --> 00:24:27,965 and he could offer something to you, 441 00:24:28,050 --> 00:24:29,967 and you might be willing to take it 442 00:24:30,052 --> 00:24:31,969 depending on your circumstance. 443 00:24:33,264 --> 00:24:36,891 SHATNER: Did Robert Johnson sell his soul to the Devil? 444 00:24:36,976 --> 00:24:39,426 It's a question that is hard to answer. 445 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:44,431 But the mysterious circumstances surrounding his death in 1938 446 00:24:44,525 --> 00:24:48,602 have helped perpetuate the myth. 447 00:24:48,696 --> 00:24:52,823 FISHOF: Robert Johnson's death is basically a mystery. 448 00:24:52,909 --> 00:24:56,777 Many say that he met up with a jealous husband 449 00:24:56,871 --> 00:24:58,787 after flirting with his wife 450 00:24:58,915 --> 00:25:02,449 and the husband gave him a bottle of whiskey 451 00:25:02,543 --> 00:25:04,710 that was filled with poison. 452 00:25:06,881 --> 00:25:09,456 There's many other theories of-of how he passed away, 453 00:25:09,550 --> 00:25:12,927 but many people say he just died, 454 00:25:13,012 --> 00:25:16,514 and maybe it was time for the Devil to take his soul. 455 00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:19,299 HOOVER: That mystery, it throws a monkey wrench in it, 456 00:25:19,393 --> 00:25:21,134 and some people gonna believe this, 457 00:25:21,229 --> 00:25:22,970 some people gonna believe that. 458 00:25:23,064 --> 00:25:26,065 Didn't nobody know the full story of this guy 459 00:25:26,150 --> 00:25:30,486 because that's the way he portrayed himself. 460 00:25:30,613 --> 00:25:32,696 You know? S-- And-and that's just the way it is. 461 00:25:32,782 --> 00:25:34,990 The mystery of the crossroad. 462 00:25:39,664 --> 00:25:43,082 But while some people choose to do business with Satan, 463 00:25:43,167 --> 00:25:48,629 others fall under his spell unwillingly, 464 00:25:48,714 --> 00:25:51,498 a type of encounter that is referred to as... 465 00:25:51,592 --> 00:25:53,884 demonic possession. 466 00:26:02,645 --> 00:26:05,896 SHATNER: Anneliese Michel, a 20-year-old student 467 00:26:05,982 --> 00:26:07,815 at the University of Wurzburg, 468 00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:11,193 claims that she's hearing disembodied voices 469 00:26:12,488 --> 00:26:16,824 ...and seeing visions of the Devil. 470 00:26:16,909 --> 00:26:20,661 Before long, her family comes to believe that Anneliese 471 00:26:20,746 --> 00:26:24,373 suffers from a condition that defies understanding... 472 00:26:25,835 --> 00:26:29,211 ...demonic possession. 473 00:26:29,338 --> 00:26:32,047 PICKNETT: Anneliese Michel was indeed 474 00:26:32,174 --> 00:26:35,426 tormented by a possessing something. 475 00:26:35,511 --> 00:26:38,712 She spoke in a horrendously growly voice. 476 00:26:38,806 --> 00:26:40,848 (Anneliese speaking indistinctly) 477 00:26:50,526 --> 00:26:53,652 PICKNETT: Her eyes seemed to go black, 478 00:26:53,738 --> 00:26:57,781 and she had a great aversion to holy statues, 479 00:26:57,867 --> 00:26:58,824 of which there were a great many in the house 480 00:26:58,909 --> 00:27:03,737 because they were very pious Catholics. 481 00:27:03,831 --> 00:27:07,416 And she was taken to a doctor 482 00:27:07,543 --> 00:27:09,710 and who said she might be epileptic, 483 00:27:09,795 --> 00:27:14,915 um, and she was taken to a psychiatrist, 484 00:27:15,009 --> 00:27:17,426 and nothing changed in her life. 485 00:27:17,553 --> 00:27:19,678 In fact, she was getting worse and worse. 486 00:27:19,764 --> 00:27:24,016 BADER: Her family believed from the beginning she was possessed. 487 00:27:24,101 --> 00:27:26,760 The Catholic Church accepted that framework 488 00:27:26,854 --> 00:27:28,812 and engaged in the exorcism. 489 00:27:28,898 --> 00:27:32,900 Ultimately, Anneliese Michel died of starvation 490 00:27:32,985 --> 00:27:37,529 and dehydration over the course of numerous exorcisms. 491 00:27:37,615 --> 00:27:39,698 This was a case where that belief 492 00:27:39,784 --> 00:27:42,109 directly led to her death. 493 00:27:42,203 --> 00:27:46,446 What we cannot say for certain is what was really going on. 494 00:27:46,540 --> 00:27:49,124 I can't say that she for sure was not possessed 495 00:27:49,251 --> 00:27:50,617 or for sure was. 496 00:27:50,711 --> 00:27:53,629 SHATNER: The story of Anneliese Michel 497 00:27:53,756 --> 00:27:55,455 is perhaps the best-known case 498 00:27:55,549 --> 00:27:58,592 of an alleged demonic possession. 499 00:27:58,678 --> 00:28:02,295 But what happened to her? 500 00:28:02,390 --> 00:28:05,132 Was she actually possessed by demons? 501 00:28:05,226 --> 00:28:09,636 And if so, how does one identify when a person's mind and body 502 00:28:09,730 --> 00:28:14,024 have been taken over by Satan? 503 00:28:14,110 --> 00:28:16,360 RICHARD GALLAGHER: During the course of my career, 504 00:28:16,445 --> 00:28:20,313 I've witnessed a number of cases of possession in-in my life, 505 00:28:20,408 --> 00:28:22,649 but I definitely started as a skeptic. 506 00:28:22,743 --> 00:28:26,829 I certainly never thought I would see anything 507 00:28:26,956 --> 00:28:31,166 sort of paranormal or diabolic. 508 00:28:33,254 --> 00:28:36,755 A priest who, I guess, knew I was Catholic-- 509 00:28:36,841 --> 00:28:40,092 I don't exactly know how he got my name-- but he came 510 00:28:40,177 --> 00:28:43,503 to my office when I was at Cornell Medical College. 511 00:28:43,597 --> 00:28:47,340 And he said, "Dr. Gallagher, I'd like you to, uh, 512 00:28:47,435 --> 00:28:51,678 "evaluate someone for me 513 00:28:51,772 --> 00:28:55,015 who I think has a demonic attack." 514 00:28:55,109 --> 00:28:58,819 And I said, "Well, with all due respect, Father, 515 00:28:58,904 --> 00:29:02,189 "you know, I'm-I'm an academic psychiatrist, 516 00:29:02,283 --> 00:29:05,284 and I'm pretty skeptical of those sort of things." 517 00:29:05,369 --> 00:29:07,411 And I remember what he said to me, he said, 518 00:29:07,496 --> 00:29:09,029 "You're the perfect man for the job 519 00:29:09,123 --> 00:29:12,458 because we want somebody who's skeptical." 520 00:29:12,543 --> 00:29:15,368 Of course, in the years since, you know, 25-plus years, 521 00:29:15,463 --> 00:29:20,758 I've seen so much that I'm not a skeptic anymore. 522 00:29:20,843 --> 00:29:23,927 There are very strict criteria 523 00:29:24,013 --> 00:29:29,099 which clearly have to be present to distinguish 524 00:29:29,185 --> 00:29:32,686 the case from a psychiatric or medical disorder. 525 00:29:32,772 --> 00:29:36,565 You have to see something that is inexplicable 526 00:29:36,692 --> 00:29:41,153 in terms of purely materialist science. 527 00:29:41,238 --> 00:29:44,782 Things that could not possibly manifest 528 00:29:44,867 --> 00:29:48,902 in somebody who doesn't have a diabolic attack. 529 00:29:48,996 --> 00:29:54,583 The first case sent to me was a woman who claimed 530 00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:56,910 that she would be lying in bed, 531 00:29:57,004 --> 00:30:02,341 and she would be pummeled by invisible forces. 532 00:30:04,845 --> 00:30:07,087 She and her husband were convinced 533 00:30:07,181 --> 00:30:10,557 that she was attacked by demons. 534 00:30:13,479 --> 00:30:15,354 So we did a number of medical tests on her 535 00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:18,098 because she had bruises all over her body. 536 00:30:18,192 --> 00:30:20,934 And at the end of my evaluations-- 537 00:30:21,028 --> 00:30:25,739 and she was a very sane, lovely woman-- 538 00:30:25,825 --> 00:30:27,607 I said to the priest, "Look, this doesn't seem 539 00:30:27,701 --> 00:30:33,113 like a medical or psychiatric case, it doesn't seem possible." 540 00:30:33,207 --> 00:30:35,457 SHATNER: Mysterious bruises 541 00:30:35,584 --> 00:30:38,627 inflicted by invisible forces? 542 00:30:38,754 --> 00:30:40,453 While that may sound like something 543 00:30:40,548 --> 00:30:42,381 out of a Hollywood horror movie, 544 00:30:42,466 --> 00:30:45,592 the truth is that accounts of possession 545 00:30:45,678 --> 00:30:48,387 have been recorded for thousands of years. 546 00:30:50,266 --> 00:30:51,974 BADER: Any scholar can tell you, 547 00:30:52,101 --> 00:30:54,726 cases of demonic possession go all the way back to the Bible, 548 00:30:54,812 --> 00:30:58,480 when Jesus had to cast the demon out of a man 549 00:30:58,607 --> 00:31:00,691 into a herd of swine, 550 00:31:00,776 --> 00:31:02,860 who then ran off of a cliff and into the water. 551 00:31:02,945 --> 00:31:04,570 Very famous story in the Bible. 552 00:31:04,655 --> 00:31:06,822 And stories of demonic possession, 553 00:31:06,949 --> 00:31:09,157 they are not confined to Christianity. 554 00:31:11,036 --> 00:31:12,986 The idea of possession is inherently tied to the idea 555 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,156 of Satan and demons, and is an attempt by Satan 556 00:31:16,250 --> 00:31:19,251 to take over your personality to ultimately control you. 557 00:31:22,298 --> 00:31:24,339 The film The Exorcist is believed to have 558 00:31:24,466 --> 00:31:27,384 really brought attention to the idea of possession, 559 00:31:27,469 --> 00:31:30,003 but it's not that those ideas started with The Exorcist, 560 00:31:30,097 --> 00:31:33,015 those ideas spread with The Exorcist. 561 00:31:34,602 --> 00:31:35,851 STEPHEN ROSSETTI: The Exorcist was actually 562 00:31:35,978 --> 00:31:38,345 based on a real case. 563 00:31:38,439 --> 00:31:43,016 It was a 12-year-old boy who was possessed, not a girl. 564 00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:46,528 How did he get possessed? Using a ouija board for months. 565 00:31:46,655 --> 00:31:48,822 Start doing something occult, 566 00:31:48,908 --> 00:31:51,783 that creates an inner vulnerability to evil. 567 00:31:53,787 --> 00:31:56,079 You're using magic that does not come from the Lord. 568 00:31:56,165 --> 00:31:57,864 You might not know this, 569 00:31:57,958 --> 00:32:00,250 but you're actually invoking the powers of Satan, 570 00:32:00,336 --> 00:32:02,210 whether you believe it or not. 571 00:32:02,338 --> 00:32:05,547 GALLAGHER: Most people who are possessed, 572 00:32:05,674 --> 00:32:10,043 in a sense, they've invited it in, wittingly or unwittingly. 573 00:32:10,137 --> 00:32:14,881 Possession is the most dramatic attack 574 00:32:14,975 --> 00:32:17,384 of a demon upon a human being. 575 00:32:17,478 --> 00:32:20,187 In a way, 576 00:32:20,272 --> 00:32:23,649 spiritual warfare should be a concern of everybody. 577 00:32:23,734 --> 00:32:27,194 That we're all sort of in a battle 578 00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:30,989 in our own souls between goodness and evil. 579 00:32:36,288 --> 00:32:39,790 If Satan is trying to possess us, 580 00:32:39,875 --> 00:32:43,243 are we defenseless against his attacks? 581 00:32:43,337 --> 00:32:45,245 Or is there a way to fight back? 582 00:32:45,339 --> 00:32:47,923 Well, there are those who believe 583 00:32:48,050 --> 00:32:53,971 that there is a powerful tool we can use to protect ourselves. 584 00:32:57,685 --> 00:33:01,019 The ancient rite of exorcism. 585 00:33:08,862 --> 00:33:10,946 SHATNER: Thousands of Christians are gathered 586 00:33:11,073 --> 00:33:12,772 in Saint Peter's Square 587 00:33:12,866 --> 00:33:16,276 to watch Pope Francis perform Sunday mass. 588 00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:19,446 As he greets the crowd, the pope lays his hands 589 00:33:19,540 --> 00:33:22,449 on the forehead of a man who is thought to be possessed 590 00:33:22,543 --> 00:33:24,126 and recites a prayer. 591 00:33:24,253 --> 00:33:27,454 A video of the incident went viral, 592 00:33:27,548 --> 00:33:29,506 and left many viewers to conclude 593 00:33:29,591 --> 00:33:32,092 that they had just witnessed the pope 594 00:33:32,177 --> 00:33:35,295 performing an exorcism. 595 00:33:35,389 --> 00:33:36,888 GALLAGHER: Pope Francis 596 00:33:36,974 --> 00:33:39,725 believes in evil spirits, he believes in Satan, 597 00:33:39,810 --> 00:33:42,635 he believes in the possibility of possession 598 00:33:42,730 --> 00:33:44,471 and the need for exorcists. 599 00:33:44,565 --> 00:33:49,109 He's quite traditional in that respect. 600 00:33:49,194 --> 00:33:52,195 Exorcisms appear in the oldest writings that we have. 601 00:33:54,033 --> 00:33:57,650 From the ancient Near East, from India, from China. 602 00:33:57,745 --> 00:34:02,372 So exorcism is literally as old as recorded history. 603 00:34:02,458 --> 00:34:04,824 There's many different forms of exorcism all over the world 604 00:34:04,918 --> 00:34:06,493 and in different religions, 605 00:34:06,587 --> 00:34:08,495 and most have various types of objects 606 00:34:08,589 --> 00:34:10,997 that are used to drive away unwanted spirits. 607 00:34:11,091 --> 00:34:14,968 Holy relics, crosses, uh, holy water, 608 00:34:15,054 --> 00:34:17,337 and even exorcism itself are what the Catholic Church 609 00:34:17,431 --> 00:34:18,889 called sacramentals. 610 00:34:22,811 --> 00:34:27,064 So, the church's view is that these are symbolic expressions 611 00:34:27,149 --> 00:34:29,107 of the authority of the Church. 612 00:34:29,193 --> 00:34:31,985 And so, even though they are, in a sense, symbolic, 613 00:34:32,071 --> 00:34:34,071 at the same time, they have real power... 614 00:34:35,949 --> 00:34:39,409 ...and can help a priest to display the authority 615 00:34:39,495 --> 00:34:41,411 of the Church and drive away demons. 616 00:34:42,956 --> 00:34:45,457 SHATNER: If Satan and his army of demons 617 00:34:45,542 --> 00:34:49,369 are really waging a war against humanity, 618 00:34:49,463 --> 00:34:53,757 then exorcists are on the front lines. 619 00:34:53,842 --> 00:34:56,093 It's important to realize that an exorcism is not magic. 620 00:34:56,178 --> 00:34:57,377 W-We don't do magic. 621 00:34:57,471 --> 00:34:59,879 It's a prayer, essentially. 622 00:34:59,973 --> 00:35:02,224 It's the Church's prayer to God and Jesus 623 00:35:02,351 --> 00:35:03,725 to cast out the demons. 624 00:35:04,853 --> 00:35:06,353 And so we invoke that authority 625 00:35:06,438 --> 00:35:08,563 as his disciples to cast out the demons. 626 00:35:08,690 --> 00:35:11,650 And then we use the Church's prayer 627 00:35:11,735 --> 00:35:13,610 called the Rite of Exorcism. 628 00:35:13,695 --> 00:35:16,029 We use holy objects like Rosary beads, 629 00:35:16,115 --> 00:35:20,867 holy water, crucifixes, any holy object, 630 00:35:20,953 --> 00:35:22,452 uh, Satan can't stand it. 631 00:35:23,705 --> 00:35:27,240 When the person is manifesting a demonic presence, 632 00:35:27,334 --> 00:35:29,084 The first thing that happens is... 633 00:35:29,211 --> 00:35:32,245 you've got this incredibly evil look. 634 00:35:32,339 --> 00:35:33,755 As a matter of fact, they'll look at me and they'll say, 635 00:35:33,882 --> 00:35:36,091 "You stupid priest." 636 00:35:36,218 --> 00:35:39,427 If you've ever really looked into the eyes of evil, 637 00:35:39,555 --> 00:35:41,346 you won't forget it. 638 00:35:41,431 --> 00:35:43,723 And then different things happen which are physically 639 00:35:43,809 --> 00:35:45,392 not explainable. 640 00:35:45,477 --> 00:35:48,186 A 110-pound young woman 641 00:35:48,272 --> 00:35:50,355 throwing three big guys around the room. 642 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,599 So we've had some of those sorts of things. 643 00:35:52,693 --> 00:35:54,776 A couple teams in the country have had people levitate. 644 00:35:54,903 --> 00:35:56,778 We-we haven't. 645 00:35:56,905 --> 00:35:58,947 Uh, so there are-- things do happen like that. 646 00:36:00,784 --> 00:36:01,992 SHATNER: Levitation? 647 00:36:02,077 --> 00:36:03,776 It's one thing to believe that Satan 648 00:36:03,871 --> 00:36:05,912 can take control of a person's mind 649 00:36:05,998 --> 00:36:08,415 or even attack their body. 650 00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:11,784 But floating in midair? 651 00:36:11,879 --> 00:36:16,756 Is such an extraordinary phenomenon even possible? 652 00:36:16,842 --> 00:36:18,592 About 35, you know, salt of the earth people 653 00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:21,303 have told me they have witnessed, during a possession, 654 00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:22,846 a levitation. 655 00:36:25,225 --> 00:36:28,301 It's widely believed in these circles 656 00:36:28,395 --> 00:36:32,138 one of the paranormal things that demons can exhibit 657 00:36:32,232 --> 00:36:35,108 is getting their possessed victim to levitate. 658 00:36:36,570 --> 00:36:39,446 A lot of people challenge what I say, 659 00:36:39,531 --> 00:36:43,033 and they say, "Well, okay, you believe in levitation, 660 00:36:43,118 --> 00:36:46,119 which is against the laws of science." 661 00:36:46,205 --> 00:36:48,413 Of course it's against the laws of normal science. 662 00:36:48,498 --> 00:36:49,456 I understand that, you know. 663 00:36:49,541 --> 00:36:52,000 I'm not saying I don't believe in gravity. 664 00:36:52,127 --> 00:36:54,711 What I'm saying is there are spiritual forces, 665 00:36:54,796 --> 00:36:56,546 including dark forces, 666 00:36:56,632 --> 00:37:00,425 that can violate the-the normal laws of nature. 667 00:37:00,510 --> 00:37:03,845 SHATNER: To some, the stories about the power of exorcism 668 00:37:03,972 --> 00:37:06,139 may seem far-fetched. 669 00:37:06,225 --> 00:37:10,510 But on the other hand, this practice of banishing evil 670 00:37:10,604 --> 00:37:13,513 has offered spiritual relief 671 00:37:13,607 --> 00:37:17,016 to people from all walks of life. 672 00:37:17,110 --> 00:37:19,018 In most of the cases that we have, 673 00:37:19,112 --> 00:37:21,404 the people are very psychologically balanced. 674 00:37:22,491 --> 00:37:24,574 We have professional people. We have lawyers. 675 00:37:24,660 --> 00:37:26,359 We have military people. 676 00:37:26,453 --> 00:37:28,912 We usually heal on both tracks at the same time. 677 00:37:28,997 --> 00:37:30,530 We heal on the spiritual level. 678 00:37:30,624 --> 00:37:32,332 We also heal the psychological level. 679 00:37:32,417 --> 00:37:34,793 Many times, we find that the demonic feeds 680 00:37:34,878 --> 00:37:37,212 off the internal wounds, the angers, 681 00:37:37,339 --> 00:37:39,214 the unforgiveness, the hurts. 682 00:37:39,341 --> 00:37:41,841 So when you start healing some of those inner wounds, 683 00:37:41,927 --> 00:37:44,386 they have less to feed off and grab onto. 684 00:37:46,598 --> 00:37:50,809 Exorcists believe they can channel the power of God 685 00:37:50,894 --> 00:37:55,355 to drive Satan away, and that's certainly a comforting notion. 686 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,776 But then again, is it really possible to defeat evil? 687 00:37:59,861 --> 00:38:04,063 Perhaps the answer can be found by examining a recent report 688 00:38:04,157 --> 00:38:07,867 about the surprisingly high number of people 689 00:38:07,953 --> 00:38:12,956 who claim to have had an encounter with the Devil. 690 00:38:20,841 --> 00:38:23,633 SHATNER: The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Indianapolis reveals 691 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,428 that in just one year, 692 00:38:26,555 --> 00:38:30,807 they have received 1,700 requests for exorcisms. 693 00:38:30,892 --> 00:38:33,977 Ten times more than in previous years. 694 00:38:34,062 --> 00:38:38,982 But what could explain this rise in demand? 695 00:38:39,067 --> 00:38:40,942 All of the exorcists I know in this country 696 00:38:41,069 --> 00:38:42,610 are busier and busier, and busier. 697 00:38:42,738 --> 00:38:45,104 We, frankly, we can't deal with all the cases. 698 00:38:45,198 --> 00:38:49,826 We have people come to us who are Muslim or Jewish, 699 00:38:49,911 --> 00:38:53,079 atheist, many don't believe in God or whatever, 700 00:38:53,165 --> 00:38:55,615 but they know they have demons, and they need some help. 701 00:38:55,709 --> 00:38:57,625 So we'll-we'll often exorcise people 702 00:38:57,753 --> 00:39:00,170 of other faiths or people with no faith. 703 00:39:01,256 --> 00:39:03,757 CARGILL: I think exorcists are so busy today 704 00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:07,794 if somebody believes they're possessed by a demon, 705 00:39:07,888 --> 00:39:11,306 then maybe the only remedy for that 706 00:39:11,433 --> 00:39:14,967 is for a spiritual authority to come in and tell them, 707 00:39:15,062 --> 00:39:17,187 "This spirit is out of you." 708 00:39:17,272 --> 00:39:19,639 They're not going to believe that a doctor 709 00:39:19,733 --> 00:39:22,734 can remedy evil manifestations of some sort. 710 00:39:24,738 --> 00:39:27,647 SHATNER: Evil manifestations? 711 00:39:27,741 --> 00:39:31,326 Is it possible that Satan is not only real 712 00:39:31,453 --> 00:39:37,123 but that his influence on our world is actually increasing? 713 00:39:37,209 --> 00:39:40,919 ROSSETTI: There are certain hallmarks of Satan's presence. 714 00:39:41,004 --> 00:39:44,497 Discord, rage, 715 00:39:44,591 --> 00:39:47,384 violence, 716 00:39:47,469 --> 00:39:50,169 lack of dialogue, lack of compassion, 717 00:39:50,263 --> 00:39:52,472 hatred, all these sorts of things. 718 00:39:54,267 --> 00:39:56,342 I think we see more and more of that in this country, 719 00:39:56,436 --> 00:39:59,771 so I think we're seeing more and more of Satan's influence. 720 00:39:59,856 --> 00:40:01,848 Does that mean people are possessed? No. 721 00:40:01,942 --> 00:40:04,401 But can Satan influence a whole culture? Sure, he can. 722 00:40:06,279 --> 00:40:08,354 BADER: If you start looking very, very hard 723 00:40:08,448 --> 00:40:11,408 for satanism, you will find it, 724 00:40:11,493 --> 00:40:13,493 You will find certain crimes that draw attention, 725 00:40:13,578 --> 00:40:15,870 like the Richard Ramirez crimes... 726 00:40:17,499 --> 00:40:18,865 ...that clearly have some sort 727 00:40:18,959 --> 00:40:20,708 of satanic motivation behind them. 728 00:40:22,337 --> 00:40:25,588 One of the most iconic images of Richard Ramirez 729 00:40:25,674 --> 00:40:28,800 is of him holding up his hand with a pentagram on his palm 730 00:40:28,885 --> 00:40:30,710 and showing it to the jury. 731 00:40:30,804 --> 00:40:33,847 And this is unfortunately what has happened in many cases 732 00:40:33,932 --> 00:40:35,715 where a serial killer might leave behind 733 00:40:35,809 --> 00:40:39,978 so-called satanic symbols or images at a crime scene. 734 00:40:40,063 --> 00:40:41,896 Any crime will be more frightening 735 00:40:42,023 --> 00:40:46,726 to the general public if a layer of satanism is added to it, 736 00:40:46,820 --> 00:40:50,071 because that means this crime goes beyond human motivation 737 00:40:50,198 --> 00:40:52,565 and that there was something more at work here 738 00:40:52,659 --> 00:40:54,734 just than a deranged person, that maybe the devil himself 739 00:40:54,828 --> 00:40:56,661 was motivating these killings. 740 00:40:56,746 --> 00:40:59,405 ROSSETTI: Satan tempts everyone. 741 00:40:59,499 --> 00:41:02,709 And sometimes it's subtle, but he's a great psychologist. 742 00:41:02,794 --> 00:41:04,961 He knows you, he tries to manipulate you, 743 00:41:05,046 --> 00:41:07,797 and sometimes you don't know it's the evil one. 744 00:41:07,883 --> 00:41:11,417 You know, the voice says, "You're evil. You're a sinner. 745 00:41:11,511 --> 00:41:14,420 God doesn't care about you, there's no hope for you." 746 00:41:14,514 --> 00:41:17,891 That's not God's voice, that's Satan's voice in your ear. 747 00:41:23,356 --> 00:41:25,607 So, what do you think? 748 00:41:25,734 --> 00:41:29,819 Is Satan an all-powerful lord of darkness? 749 00:41:29,905 --> 00:41:32,772 The source of all evil in the world? 750 00:41:32,866 --> 00:41:37,744 Or is he an idea that humanity created 751 00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:41,080 an excuse, or a method of control 752 00:41:41,166 --> 00:41:44,951 so that we don't have to face the darkness 753 00:41:45,045 --> 00:41:48,671 that lurks within ourselves? 754 00:41:48,757 --> 00:41:50,548 Perhaps the answers to these questions 755 00:41:50,634 --> 00:41:53,459 will, as they have for centuries, 756 00:41:53,553 --> 00:41:57,797 remain UnXplained. 757 00:41:57,891 --> 00:42:01,142 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 61474

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