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WILLIAM SHATNER:
Deals with the Devil,
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portals to hell
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and innocent people
possessed by demons.
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For thousands of years,
people around the world
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have believed
in the existence of Satan,
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an entity that is thought
to be the embodiment
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of pure evil.
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But is Satan just a myth?
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A figment
of our collective imagination?
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Or is he lurking,
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ready to tempt us
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and possess our souls?
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Well, that is what
we will try and find out.
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The Holy Land.
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For thousands of years,
religious pilgrims
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of many faiths have come
to this sacred city to express
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their devotion to God.
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But just outside
the walls of Jerusalem
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lies the Valley of Hinnom,
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an ancient place
of unholy worship
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where evil deeds
were performed long ago
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in honor of God's enemy, Satan.
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In the book of Jeremiah,
God reports,
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through His prophet,
that people outside Jerusalem
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in a place called
the Valley of Hinnom,
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are sacrificing their sons,
and also their daughters.
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And God explicitly says,
"I never asked you
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to do this satanic ritual,"
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and expresses that He's angry,
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that there's going to be
a terrible punishment for this.
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Historically speaking,
in the days of the Bible,
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not everybody was faithful
to the Lord.
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Satanism influenced
the Israelite community.
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And what they would do,
literally,
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was they'd create
a big pit of fire,
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and they actually
would sacrifice
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their firstborn male
through the fire.
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This was performed
in the Valley of Hinnom,
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which is actually the Hebrew
word today for "hell."
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I can't imagine
what would cause someone
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to want to sacrifice
their own child,
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to anything, for-for any reason.
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But this demonstrates how,
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in antiquity, people believed
that their crops wouldn't grow,
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that the rains wouldn't come
if they didn't offer sacrifices
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up to some satanic demons,
spirits, whatever.
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And now you have introduced
this new being
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that's responsible
for the bad things,
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and his name comes to be Satan.
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SHATNER:
What can explain the shocking events
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that took place
in the Valley of Hinnom
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thousands of years ago?
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Was it simply the result
of human wickedness?
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Or is it possible that, as
the biblical accounts suggest,
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Satan and his demons were
and still are real entities
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that have the power
to influence people?
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MIKKI BROCK: Some people
think of Satan as Beelzebub
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or Lucifer
or the Prince of Darkness
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or "the evil one" or Old Nick.
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And some of these names
come from scripture.
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A lot of them
come from folklore.
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And if you think of Satan
as this ubiquitous figure
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who's constantly tormenting
and tempting people,
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then it makes sense
that the Devil can be known
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by all of these
different nicknames.
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Is there really
a character of the Satan?
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Well, the definition of that
is going to differ
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between the major
world religions.
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But fear of an eternal damnation
in the afterlife
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has always been sufficient
to keep people religious,
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and in line with the beliefs
of their religious clerics,
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who warn them
that failure to comply
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will lead to an eternity
of suffering and damnation.
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Or in other words, the stories
from which this developed
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were to teach moral lessons.
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LAYCOCK:
Throughout history, many religions have
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interpreted the world
through the lens of having
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a figure of evil, Satan,
who is responsible
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for evil in the world.
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According
to Christian tradition,
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Satan was one
of the most powerful
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and beautiful of the angels.
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He rebelled against God,
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a third of the angels
sided with Satan,
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and there was a war in heaven.
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Satan lost
and was cast down into hell.
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Satan is the embodiment of evil,
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a fallen angel who tempts you
to not follow your best values.
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He is a god of sorts and he can
offer something like that to us,
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great knowledge,
control, mastery.
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The stuff of transcendence.
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Of course,
it will cost us everything.
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After all, this is not
a straight shooter.
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This is not somebody
who's going to tell the truth.
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His job is to tempt you.
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CHRIS BADER:
Satan is believed to have tried to tempt Jesus
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when he was in the desert with
visions of earthly delights.
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So Satan is continually,
throughout the Bible,
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someone trying to draw people
from God to evil.
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But the idea of Satan
flows throughout history
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and across religions.
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There is Mara in Buddhism,
who is a demonic king,
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a entity representing evil,
and therefore,
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would tend to take on
very frightening forms
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which oftentimes are mixtures
of human and animal.
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There is Iblis, who is the
Islamic representation of Satan.
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So, we see this figure of Satan,
a singular entity
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that is in charge of evil
across religions and over time.
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BROCK:
In Western Europe, we start to see depictions
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of the Devil around
the eighth and ninth century.
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And the Devil becomes
depicted all over churches,
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in various other sorts of art
and statue and so forth.
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He is always portrayed
as a monstrous beast,
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half human, half animal,
sometimes winged,
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sometimes horned,
sometimes red, sometimes black,
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occasionally surrounded
by his subordinate demons,
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and often emerging
from the flames of hell.
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SHATNER:
Does this universal belief in an evil,
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tempting enemy of God
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suggest that Satan,
by whatever name he's called,
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is actually real?
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According to one of the most
important spiritual leaders
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in the world,
the answer is an emphatic yes.
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Pope Francis
publishes a statement
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which contains a dire warning
to those who don't believe
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in the existence of Satan.
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The pope declared
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that "we should not think
of the Devil as a myth,
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"a representation, a symbol,
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"a figure of speech or an idea.
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"This mistake would lead us
to let down our guard,
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"to grow careless
and end up more vulnerable."
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Pope Francis has spoken
about the reality of Satan
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than the previous popes have.
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And he often speaks about Satan
as a-a real person, of course.
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And also, that, he said,
"Don't try to argue with Satan.
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"Don't get into a dialogue
with Satan
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because he'll outfox you,"
which is good advice.
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BROCK:
The current pope,
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who people usually think of
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as being this sort of
progressive figure,
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he talks about the powers
of Satan as a literal entity.
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But the Devil is still
a very powerful force
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who sort of lurks in the bounds
of our imagination,
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and for some people,
genuine belief.
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It's a common misconception
amongst academics
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and secular people that
the Devil is an outmoded idea,
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that it went away
in the Middle Ages,
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and that couldn't be
further from the truth.
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Very recent data
from the United States
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shows that over half
of Americans believe
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that the Devil is a real entity,
not merely an idea.
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There are certainly many
who believe in the Devil,
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uh, by whatever name,
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and that doesn't mean
it's just fantasy.
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There's something happening.
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Human beings are encountering
something more than themselves,
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so one theory is it's the Devil.
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LAYCOCK:
I think that our ideas about things
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like supernatural evil
tend to depend
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on the situation we're in
and what's happening to us
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on a given day.
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And ultimately, many people say
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they absolutely believe
in the existence of Satan.
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If Satan is actually real,
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then it begs the question:
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how does he travel from hell
or wherever he is to Earth?
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Perhaps the answers can
be found by examining a city
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located in the mountains
of China.
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A city that many believe
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is a portal to Hell.
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SHATNER:
High in the mountains of Central China,
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along the banks
of the Yangtze river,
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lies a complex
of shrines and temples
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that is known
as Fengdu Ghost City.
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According to the Chinese legend,
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Fengdu is considered
to be a place
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where our world
meets the underworld.
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As you're approaching
Fengdu City on Ming mountain,
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you're imagining something
that's gonna be beautiful,
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but instead you see
these depictions
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of hellish images,
and devilish creatures
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are actually devouring
human beings.
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One of the first things
that you encounter, uh,
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when entering the complex is,
um, actually a gate
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that is shaped
as the head of a demon,
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and you have to enter it
through its open mouth.
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So it's a very impressive
first sight
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that the visitor encounters.
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JEREMIAH:
Walking through this complex
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is like walking
through hell itself.
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It's supposedly the place where
the Devil actually resides.
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SHATNER:
The vast array of devilish statues and carvings
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found throughout Fengdu
have earned the city
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a ghoulish reputation.
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But why did the ancient Chinese
feel the need to create
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an entire city filled
with such ghastly depictions
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of the forces of evil?
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Well, Fengdu Ghost City
is believed to have been
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first built
during the Han dynasty
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around the year 200 AD.
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The city was constructed
to represent
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Chinese believes
about the afterlife,
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and how a person's soul
is judged after death.
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STEAVU:
The Fengdu Ghost City is a type
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of purgatory space in Chinese
conceptions of the underworld.
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It's a place where the souls
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of recently-deceased people
are brought
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so that they can be in front
of the court of the underworld,
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and tried and judged
for all the actions,
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the good deeds and the misdeeds,
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that they performed
during their life.
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If their karmic balance
is positive,
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then after their judgement,
they are taken
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to various celestial realms
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where they can enjoy
a nicer afterlife.
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If your misdeeds
overshadowed your good deeds
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during your life, then you will
be unable to complete this trial
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and you will be presented
for judgement forthwith
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and then carry
out your sentence.
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SHATNER:
The final judgement takes place
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inside the oldest temple
in the city,
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where a person's soul
is put on trial by King Yama,
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the gatekeeper to hell.
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STEAVU:
This main building, which is actually King Yama's court,
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is presided over
by a statue of King Yama,
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very fearsome in appearance.
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King Yama is the overseer
of the underworld,
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in the Chinese tradition.
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So he judges the deeds
and misdeeds of the deceased
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and oversees
all of this distribution
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of postmortem justice.
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So he's bringing down
the full power
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of the underworld state to bear
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on the people that he judges.
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And he is also flanked
by a retinue of demons.
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Their role is to dole out
the punishment
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and to make sure that
the punishment is respected.
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For those who don't go straight
to the celestial realms,
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they have to spend
a certain amount of time
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in the 18 levels of hell.
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And you have a variety of hells,
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you have the hell of burning
oil,
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you have the hell of fire,
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you have the blood pool hell,
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in which you have
to spend a time,
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sometimes close to eternity.
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The fact that this has
become a major site
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that is open to the public
and that people can visit
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perhaps serves as a kind of
warning or an incitement,
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uh, for, uh, people to live
more moral lives
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and, uh, to be kinder to others.
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SHATNER:
The idea that your soul can be doomed to hell
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for eternity is concerning,
to say the least.
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But it also raises
an intriguing question.
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What led people to believe
that this particular location
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was so strongly
connected to the devil
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and hell in the first place?
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STEAVU:
There's a long history of connecting Fengdu
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to the gate of hell.
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the gui-men-guan,
or the gate of demons,
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and this is considered
to be the actual gate to hell,
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to the-to the courts
of the underworld.
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It's the actual entrance portal
to the netherworld.
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This portal to hell
is actually a two-way portal,
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so not only can
the deceased enter it
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to get to the netherworld,
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but you have the demons
of the netherworld
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who are allowed to leave,
who can emerge from it
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and sometimes wreak havoc
in the world of the living.
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SHATNER:
The notion that Fengdu Ghost City could be a portal to hell
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may sound far-fetched to some.
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But on the other hand,
there are similar places
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throughout the world that are
also thought to serve as bridges
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where Satan crosses over
from his realm into ours.
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The idea of a portal
to the underworld,
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a doorway to hell, shows up
in many different cultures
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and various locations.
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There are certain caves
in the Mediterranean area
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that that is how you enter
or someone returns from Hades.
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There's a burning bowl
in Turkmenistan.
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It's actually a natural
geological formation,
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but it is continually burning,
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and it looks like
a gateway to hell
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if you would descend there.
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The concept was always,
if Satan shows up on the Earth,
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people asked,
how did he get here?
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Does he have a magic power
where he can just appear
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and just disappear,
or is there a way to a shortcut?
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And what happened
in a lot of religions
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is you had to have
some kind of way
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to get from the underworld
up to the terrestrial plane.
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And so, you needed to have
a cave or some kind of portal.
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BADER:
These can be in graveyards,
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they can be in old mines.
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There's been a number
of these reported over time.
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These places have developed
a folklore or mythology
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that they are dangerous,
scary places you should not be.
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And the belief about
portals to hell
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is these are places where
the dimensional walls are thin.
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These are places
where it's easier
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for Satan and his minions
to cross over.
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Portals open us up
to different dimensions.
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Anyone with wisdom,
who cares for their soul,
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will stay far away
from those locations.
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Because the nature
of what has occurred there
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and continues to occur
in these places
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is always a danger.
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The dark side entities
are not too far away.
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Satan is clearly not
trapped in hell.
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He clearly has some ability
to go into our world
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and cause all sorts of problems.
In fact,
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he's often imagined as being
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temporarily in control
of the world.
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SHATNER:
Could it really be true that Satan and his demons
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use portals to spread
across the Earth?
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According to many systems
of belief, the answer is yes.
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And there are some
who believe that,
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once Satan has
entered our world,
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he has the ability
to take many different forms.
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It's recorded
in ancient literature
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that these forces
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who we call shedim, or demons,
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it is well known that
they can sometimes materialize
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into physical form.
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And they would look like
whatever form they would choose.
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In Christian demonology,
angels don't have bodies.
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Demons don't have bodies.
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So they can take
whatever form they want,
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they're natural shape-shifters.
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One of the common forms that
the Devil and/or his demons
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are expected to take
is that of the hellhound,
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oftentimes described
as a monstrous black dog
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with red eyes.
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That has been commonly
reported across history,
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sometimes reported
even attacking a church.
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And there have been reports
of these things in modern times.
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So, we need to understand
that these entities
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are not relegated
to the ancient past.
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We must protect ourselves
from these interactions.
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Could we be surrounded
by satanic beings
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that have the power to take
any shape they please?
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It's an alarming thought.
At least, to most of us.
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But believe it or not,
there are those
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who have actually chosen
to welcome evil into their lives
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by making a deal with the Devil.
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SHATNER:
This small town,
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located within an area
known as the Mississippi Delta,
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has been called
the Birthplace of the Blues.
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FISHOF:
The Delta blues music
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basically started
in the early '20s,
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and it came from Mississippi
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and it was
African American musicians
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who sang very soulfully...
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♪ ♪
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...very fiercely with their
guitars, with their harmonicas.
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And it wasn't usually
a whole band,
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It was usually
an individual person.
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SHATNER: Of all the blues
musicians to play
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in Clarksdale
during the 1920s and '30s,
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one of the most influential
was a guitarist,
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singer and songwriter
named Robert Johnson.
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SYLVESTER HOOVER:
Robert Johnson,
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before he got really famous,
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he would go down on the corner
and play his blues music.
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But early on in Robert Johnson's
career, he wasn't that good.
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The Delta people
would tell Robert Johnson,
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"You go to the cemetery
and play,
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"and you would have
a big audience,
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and nobody would complain
how bad you play your music."
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FISHOF:
Robert Johnson, in his early part of his career,
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was an okay harmonica player,
not a great guitar player.
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He just, uh, basically
thrown out of places
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because he really wasn't
considered very good.
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ANTHONY SHERROD:
He really wasn't good at all,
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but he kept on wanting to do it,
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to show people
that he had potential.
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SHATNER:
When faced with the prospect
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of having his musical ambitions
thwarted,
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according to legend,
Robert Johnson chose to enlist
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the help of a higher power,
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by making a deal with the Devil.
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HOOVER:
Peoples in the Delta would say, if you play blues
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at midnight at the crossroads,
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you gonna meet
a lot of strange peoples,
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and you might meet Satan
himself at the crossroad.
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And so, Robert Johnson
went to the crossroad
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that Saturday night.
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He really went
to the crossroads,
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gave his guitar to the Devil.
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The Devil strummed it a few
times and gave it back to him,
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and from that moment on,
he sold his soul to the Devil
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and became an amazing
guitar player overnight.
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And that's how the legend goes.
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He came back maybe two
and a half or three hours later,
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and this guy
was a different person.
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After he left the crossroad,
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he was doing stuff
that he couldn't do before.
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Whatever he did,
he never was the same again.
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Honeyboy said
he could play so great,
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people would come
from here and yonder
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to hear this guy play his music.
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This guy seemed
like he had a magnet
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after he left the crossroad.
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FISHOF:
From that point on, he became an amazing guitar player.
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He was just a lot different
than what any musician could do.
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00:22:50,745 --> 00:22:55,155
Robert Johnson's legacy will
live for many, many years.
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You cannot listen
to a song from the Beatles,
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Eric Clapton, Led Zeppelin
or from the Rolling Stones
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without giving credit
to Robert Johnson's style
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that many
of these musicians copied.
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And even Keith Richards said
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he could play the guitar
like three musicians together.
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He had that ability.
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♪ ♪
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SHATNER:
Today, Robert Johnson is widely considered
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to be one of the greatest
blues performers of all time.
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And his songs are among
the most influential recordings
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in the history of popular music.
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But there are many who point
to the lyrics of his songs
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as evidence that he really did
make a pact with Satan
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in order to achieve greatness.
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FISHOF:
Robert Johnson,
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in his music,
refers to the Devil
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basically by saying,
"I went to the crossroads
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and fell on my knees."
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And he asked the Lord for mercy.
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BROCK:
If you believe that the Devil is ever-present,
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that you can encounter him
on the crossroads,
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and that's a really
critical idea
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informing this notion
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of the Faustian bargain,
the deal with the Devil.
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This promise of their souls
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in exchange for something else
from Satan.
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This is key to the fear
of the Devil.
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That Satan could be so knowing,
so ubiquitous, so powerful,
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that he could know
your secret wants,
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and he could offer
something to you,
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and you might
be willing to take it
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depending on your circumstance.
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SHATNER:
Did Robert Johnson sell his soul to the Devil?
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It's a question
that is hard to answer.
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But the mysterious circumstances
surrounding his death in 1938
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have helped perpetuate the myth.
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FISHOF:
Robert Johnson's death is basically a mystery.
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Many say that he met up
with a jealous husband
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after flirting with his wife
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and the husband gave him
a bottle of whiskey
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that was filled with poison.
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There's many other theories
of-of how he passed away,
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but many people say
he just died,
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and maybe it was time
for the Devil to take his soul.
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HOOVER:
That mystery, it throws a monkey wrench in it,
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and some people
gonna believe this,
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some people gonna believe that.
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Didn't nobody know
the full story of this guy
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because that's the way
he portrayed himself.
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00:25:30,613 --> 00:25:32,696
You know? S-- And-and that's
just the way it is.
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The mystery of the crossroad.
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But while some people choose
to do business with Satan,
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others fall
under his spell unwillingly,
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a type of encounter
that is referred to as...
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demonic possession.
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SHATNER:
Anneliese Michel, a 20-year-old student
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at the University of Wurzburg,
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00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:11,193
claims that she's hearing
disembodied voices
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00:26:12,488 --> 00:26:16,824
...and seeing visions
of the Devil.
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Before long, her family
comes to believe that Anneliese
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suffers from a condition
that defies understanding...
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...demonic possession.
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PICKNETT:
Anneliese Michel was indeed
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tormented
by a possessing something.
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She spoke
in a horrendously growly voice.
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00:26:38,806 --> 00:26:40,848
(Anneliese speaking
indistinctly)
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PICKNETT:
Her eyes seemed to go black,
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and she had a great aversion
to holy statues,
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of which there were
a great many in the house
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because they were
very pious Catholics.
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And she was taken to a doctor
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and who said
she might be epileptic,
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um, and she was taken
to a psychiatrist,
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00:27:15,009 --> 00:27:17,426
and nothing changed in her life.
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In fact, she was
getting worse and worse.
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BADER:
Her family believed from the beginning she was possessed.
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The Catholic Church
accepted that framework
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and engaged in the exorcism.
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Ultimately, Anneliese Michel
died of starvation
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and dehydration over the course
of numerous exorcisms.
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This was a case
where that belief
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directly led to her death.
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What we cannot say for certain
is what was really going on.
494
00:27:46,540 --> 00:27:49,124
I can't say that she for sure
was not possessed
495
00:27:49,251 --> 00:27:50,617
or for sure was.
496
00:27:50,711 --> 00:27:53,629
SHATNER:
The story of Anneliese Michel
497
00:27:53,756 --> 00:27:55,455
is perhaps the best-known case
498
00:27:55,549 --> 00:27:58,592
of an alleged
demonic possession.
499
00:27:58,678 --> 00:28:02,295
But what happened to her?
500
00:28:02,390 --> 00:28:05,132
Was she actually
possessed by demons?
501
00:28:05,226 --> 00:28:09,636
And if so, how does one identify
when a person's mind and body
502
00:28:09,730 --> 00:28:14,024
have been taken over by Satan?
503
00:28:14,110 --> 00:28:16,360
RICHARD GALLAGHER:
During the course of my career,
504
00:28:16,445 --> 00:28:20,313
I've witnessed a number of cases
of possession in-in my life,
505
00:28:20,408 --> 00:28:22,649
but I definitely started
as a skeptic.
506
00:28:22,743 --> 00:28:26,829
I certainly never thought
I would see anything
507
00:28:26,956 --> 00:28:31,166
sort of paranormal or diabolic.
508
00:28:33,254 --> 00:28:36,755
A priest who, I guess,
knew I was Catholic--
509
00:28:36,841 --> 00:28:40,092
I don't exactly know how
he got my name-- but he came
510
00:28:40,177 --> 00:28:43,503
to my office when I was
at Cornell Medical College.
511
00:28:43,597 --> 00:28:47,340
And he said, "Dr. Gallagher,
I'd like you to, uh,
512
00:28:47,435 --> 00:28:51,678
"evaluate someone for me
513
00:28:51,772 --> 00:28:55,015
who I think has
a demonic attack."
514
00:28:55,109 --> 00:28:58,819
And I said, "Well,
with all due respect, Father,
515
00:28:58,904 --> 00:29:02,189
"you know, I'm-I'm
an academic psychiatrist,
516
00:29:02,283 --> 00:29:05,284
and I'm pretty skeptical
of those sort of things."
517
00:29:05,369 --> 00:29:07,411
And I remember
what he said to me, he said,
518
00:29:07,496 --> 00:29:09,029
"You're the perfect man
for the job
519
00:29:09,123 --> 00:29:12,458
because we want somebody
who's skeptical."
520
00:29:12,543 --> 00:29:15,368
Of course, in the years since,
you know, 25-plus years,
521
00:29:15,463 --> 00:29:20,758
I've seen so much
that I'm not a skeptic anymore.
522
00:29:20,843 --> 00:29:23,927
There are very strict criteria
523
00:29:24,013 --> 00:29:29,099
which clearly have to be
present to distinguish
524
00:29:29,185 --> 00:29:32,686
the case from a psychiatric
or medical disorder.
525
00:29:32,772 --> 00:29:36,565
You have to see something
that is inexplicable
526
00:29:36,692 --> 00:29:41,153
in terms of purely
materialist science.
527
00:29:41,238 --> 00:29:44,782
Things that could
not possibly manifest
528
00:29:44,867 --> 00:29:48,902
in somebody who doesn't
have a diabolic attack.
529
00:29:48,996 --> 00:29:54,583
The first case sent to me
was a woman who claimed
530
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:56,910
that she would be lying in bed,
531
00:29:57,004 --> 00:30:02,341
and she would be pummeled
by invisible forces.
532
00:30:04,845 --> 00:30:07,087
She and her husband
were convinced
533
00:30:07,181 --> 00:30:10,557
that she was attacked by demons.
534
00:30:13,479 --> 00:30:15,354
So we did a number
of medical tests on her
535
00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:18,098
because she had bruises
all over her body.
536
00:30:18,192 --> 00:30:20,934
And at the end
of my evaluations--
537
00:30:21,028 --> 00:30:25,739
and she was a very sane,
lovely woman--
538
00:30:25,825 --> 00:30:27,607
I said to the priest,
"Look, this doesn't seem
539
00:30:27,701 --> 00:30:33,113
like a medical or psychiatric
case, it doesn't seem possible."
540
00:30:33,207 --> 00:30:35,457
SHATNER:
Mysterious bruises
541
00:30:35,584 --> 00:30:38,627
inflicted by invisible forces?
542
00:30:38,754 --> 00:30:40,453
While that may sound
like something
543
00:30:40,548 --> 00:30:42,381
out of a Hollywood horror movie,
544
00:30:42,466 --> 00:30:45,592
the truth is that accounts
of possession
545
00:30:45,678 --> 00:30:48,387
have been recorded
for thousands of years.
546
00:30:50,266 --> 00:30:51,974
BADER:
Any scholar can tell you,
547
00:30:52,101 --> 00:30:54,726
cases of demonic possession go
all the way back to the Bible,
548
00:30:54,812 --> 00:30:58,480
when Jesus had to cast
the demon out of a man
549
00:30:58,607 --> 00:31:00,691
into a herd of swine,
550
00:31:00,776 --> 00:31:02,860
who then ran off of a cliff
and into the water.
551
00:31:02,945 --> 00:31:04,570
Very famous story in the Bible.
552
00:31:04,655 --> 00:31:06,822
And stories
of demonic possession,
553
00:31:06,949 --> 00:31:09,157
they are not confined
to Christianity.
554
00:31:11,036 --> 00:31:12,986
The idea of possession
is inherently tied to the idea
555
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,156
of Satan and demons,
and is an attempt by Satan
556
00:31:16,250 --> 00:31:19,251
to take over your personality
to ultimately control you.
557
00:31:22,298 --> 00:31:24,339
The film The Exorcist
is believed to have
558
00:31:24,466 --> 00:31:27,384
really brought attention
to the idea of possession,
559
00:31:27,469 --> 00:31:30,003
but it's not that those ideas
started with The Exorcist,
560
00:31:30,097 --> 00:31:33,015
those ideas spread
with The Exorcist.
561
00:31:34,602 --> 00:31:35,851
STEPHEN ROSSETTI:
The Exorcist was actually
562
00:31:35,978 --> 00:31:38,345
based on a real case.
563
00:31:38,439 --> 00:31:43,016
It was a 12-year-old boy
who was possessed, not a girl.
564
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:46,528
How did he get possessed?
Using a ouija board for months.
565
00:31:46,655 --> 00:31:48,822
Start doing something occult,
566
00:31:48,908 --> 00:31:51,783
that creates
an inner vulnerability to evil.
567
00:31:53,787 --> 00:31:56,079
You're using magic that does
not come from the Lord.
568
00:31:56,165 --> 00:31:57,864
You might not know this,
569
00:31:57,958 --> 00:32:00,250
but you're actually invoking
the powers of Satan,
570
00:32:00,336 --> 00:32:02,210
whether you believe it or not.
571
00:32:02,338 --> 00:32:05,547
GALLAGHER:
Most people who are possessed,
572
00:32:05,674 --> 00:32:10,043
in a sense, they've invited
it in, wittingly or unwittingly.
573
00:32:10,137 --> 00:32:14,881
Possession is the most
dramatic attack
574
00:32:14,975 --> 00:32:17,384
of a demon upon a human being.
575
00:32:17,478 --> 00:32:20,187
In a way,
576
00:32:20,272 --> 00:32:23,649
spiritual warfare should
be a concern of everybody.
577
00:32:23,734 --> 00:32:27,194
That we're all sort of
in a battle
578
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:30,989
in our own souls
between goodness and evil.
579
00:32:36,288 --> 00:32:39,790
If Satan is trying
to possess us,
580
00:32:39,875 --> 00:32:43,243
are we defenseless
against his attacks?
581
00:32:43,337 --> 00:32:45,245
Or is there a way to fight back?
582
00:32:45,339 --> 00:32:47,923
Well, there are those
who believe
583
00:32:48,050 --> 00:32:53,971
that there is a powerful tool
we can use to protect ourselves.
584
00:32:57,685 --> 00:33:01,019
The ancient rite of exorcism.
585
00:33:08,862 --> 00:33:10,946
SHATNER:
Thousands of Christians are gathered
586
00:33:11,073 --> 00:33:12,772
in Saint Peter's Square
587
00:33:12,866 --> 00:33:16,276
to watch Pope Francis
perform Sunday mass.
588
00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:19,446
As he greets the crowd,
the pope lays his hands
589
00:33:19,540 --> 00:33:22,449
on the forehead of a man
who is thought to be possessed
590
00:33:22,543 --> 00:33:24,126
and recites a prayer.
591
00:33:24,253 --> 00:33:27,454
A video of the incident
went viral,
592
00:33:27,548 --> 00:33:29,506
and left many viewers
to conclude
593
00:33:29,591 --> 00:33:32,092
that they had just
witnessed the pope
594
00:33:32,177 --> 00:33:35,295
performing an exorcism.
595
00:33:35,389 --> 00:33:36,888
GALLAGHER:
Pope Francis
596
00:33:36,974 --> 00:33:39,725
believes in evil spirits,
he believes in Satan,
597
00:33:39,810 --> 00:33:42,635
he believes in the possibility
of possession
598
00:33:42,730 --> 00:33:44,471
and the need for exorcists.
599
00:33:44,565 --> 00:33:49,109
He's quite traditional
in that respect.
600
00:33:49,194 --> 00:33:52,195
Exorcisms appear in the oldest
writings that we have.
601
00:33:54,033 --> 00:33:57,650
From the ancient Near East,
from India, from China.
602
00:33:57,745 --> 00:34:02,372
So exorcism is literally
as old as recorded history.
603
00:34:02,458 --> 00:34:04,824
There's many different forms
of exorcism all over the world
604
00:34:04,918 --> 00:34:06,493
and in different religions,
605
00:34:06,587 --> 00:34:08,495
and most have
various types of objects
606
00:34:08,589 --> 00:34:10,997
that are used to drive
away unwanted spirits.
607
00:34:11,091 --> 00:34:14,968
Holy relics, crosses,
uh, holy water,
608
00:34:15,054 --> 00:34:17,337
and even exorcism itself
are what the Catholic Church
609
00:34:17,431 --> 00:34:18,889
called sacramentals.
610
00:34:22,811 --> 00:34:27,064
So, the church's view is that
these are symbolic expressions
611
00:34:27,149 --> 00:34:29,107
of the authority of the Church.
612
00:34:29,193 --> 00:34:31,985
And so, even though they are,
in a sense, symbolic,
613
00:34:32,071 --> 00:34:34,071
at the same time,
they have real power...
614
00:34:35,949 --> 00:34:39,409
...and can help a priest
to display the authority
615
00:34:39,495 --> 00:34:41,411
of the Church
and drive away demons.
616
00:34:42,956 --> 00:34:45,457
SHATNER:
If Satan and his army of demons
617
00:34:45,542 --> 00:34:49,369
are really waging a war
against humanity,
618
00:34:49,463 --> 00:34:53,757
then exorcists
are on the front lines.
619
00:34:53,842 --> 00:34:56,093
It's important to realize
that an exorcism is not magic.
620
00:34:56,178 --> 00:34:57,377
W-We don't do magic.
621
00:34:57,471 --> 00:34:59,879
It's a prayer, essentially.
622
00:34:59,973 --> 00:35:02,224
It's the Church's prayer
to God and Jesus
623
00:35:02,351 --> 00:35:03,725
to cast out the demons.
624
00:35:04,853 --> 00:35:06,353
And so we invoke that authority
625
00:35:06,438 --> 00:35:08,563
as his disciples
to cast out the demons.
626
00:35:08,690 --> 00:35:11,650
And then we use
the Church's prayer
627
00:35:11,735 --> 00:35:13,610
called the Rite of Exorcism.
628
00:35:13,695 --> 00:35:16,029
We use holy objects
like Rosary beads,
629
00:35:16,115 --> 00:35:20,867
holy water, crucifixes,
any holy object,
630
00:35:20,953 --> 00:35:22,452
uh, Satan can't stand it.
631
00:35:23,705 --> 00:35:27,240
When the person is manifesting
a demonic presence,
632
00:35:27,334 --> 00:35:29,084
The first thing
that happens is...
633
00:35:29,211 --> 00:35:32,245
you've got this
incredibly evil look.
634
00:35:32,339 --> 00:35:33,755
As a matter of fact, they'll
look at me and they'll say,
635
00:35:33,882 --> 00:35:36,091
"You stupid priest."
636
00:35:36,218 --> 00:35:39,427
If you've ever really looked
into the eyes of evil,
637
00:35:39,555 --> 00:35:41,346
you won't forget it.
638
00:35:41,431 --> 00:35:43,723
And then different things
happen which are physically
639
00:35:43,809 --> 00:35:45,392
not explainable.
640
00:35:45,477 --> 00:35:48,186
A 110-pound young woman
641
00:35:48,272 --> 00:35:50,355
throwing three big guys
around the room.
642
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,599
So we've had some
of those sorts of things.
643
00:35:52,693 --> 00:35:54,776
A couple teams in the country
have had people levitate.
644
00:35:54,903 --> 00:35:56,778
We-we haven't.
645
00:35:56,905 --> 00:35:58,947
Uh, so there are--
things do happen like that.
646
00:36:00,784 --> 00:36:01,992
SHATNER:
Levitation?
647
00:36:02,077 --> 00:36:03,776
It's one thing
to believe that Satan
648
00:36:03,871 --> 00:36:05,912
can take control
of a person's mind
649
00:36:05,998 --> 00:36:08,415
or even attack their body.
650
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:11,784
But floating in midair?
651
00:36:11,879 --> 00:36:16,756
Is such an extraordinary
phenomenon even possible?
652
00:36:16,842 --> 00:36:18,592
About 35, you know,
salt of the earth people
653
00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:21,303
have told me they have
witnessed, during a possession,
654
00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:22,846
a levitation.
655
00:36:25,225 --> 00:36:28,301
It's widely believed
in these circles
656
00:36:28,395 --> 00:36:32,138
one of the paranormal things
that demons can exhibit
657
00:36:32,232 --> 00:36:35,108
is getting their possessed
victim to levitate.
658
00:36:36,570 --> 00:36:39,446
A lot of people challenge
what I say,
659
00:36:39,531 --> 00:36:43,033
and they say, "Well, okay,
you believe in levitation,
660
00:36:43,118 --> 00:36:46,119
which is against
the laws of science."
661
00:36:46,205 --> 00:36:48,413
Of course it's against
the laws of normal science.
662
00:36:48,498 --> 00:36:49,456
I understand that, you know.
663
00:36:49,541 --> 00:36:52,000
I'm not saying
I don't believe in gravity.
664
00:36:52,127 --> 00:36:54,711
What I'm saying is
there are spiritual forces,
665
00:36:54,796 --> 00:36:56,546
including dark forces,
666
00:36:56,632 --> 00:37:00,425
that can violate
the-the normal laws of nature.
667
00:37:00,510 --> 00:37:03,845
SHATNER:
To some, the stories about the power of exorcism
668
00:37:03,972 --> 00:37:06,139
may seem far-fetched.
669
00:37:06,225 --> 00:37:10,510
But on the other hand,
this practice of banishing evil
670
00:37:10,604 --> 00:37:13,513
has offered spiritual relief
671
00:37:13,607 --> 00:37:17,016
to people
from all walks of life.
672
00:37:17,110 --> 00:37:19,018
In most of the cases
that we have,
673
00:37:19,112 --> 00:37:21,404
the people are very
psychologically balanced.
674
00:37:22,491 --> 00:37:24,574
We have professional people.
We have lawyers.
675
00:37:24,660 --> 00:37:26,359
We have military people.
676
00:37:26,453 --> 00:37:28,912
We usually heal on both tracks
at the same time.
677
00:37:28,997 --> 00:37:30,530
We heal on the spiritual level.
678
00:37:30,624 --> 00:37:32,332
We also heal
the psychological level.
679
00:37:32,417 --> 00:37:34,793
Many times,
we find that the demonic feeds
680
00:37:34,878 --> 00:37:37,212
off the internal wounds,
the angers,
681
00:37:37,339 --> 00:37:39,214
the unforgiveness, the hurts.
682
00:37:39,341 --> 00:37:41,841
So when you start healing
some of those inner wounds,
683
00:37:41,927 --> 00:37:44,386
they have less to feed off
and grab onto.
684
00:37:46,598 --> 00:37:50,809
Exorcists believe they can
channel the power of God
685
00:37:50,894 --> 00:37:55,355
to drive Satan away, and that's
certainly a comforting notion.
686
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,776
But then again, is it really
possible to defeat evil?
687
00:37:59,861 --> 00:38:04,063
Perhaps the answer can be found
by examining a recent report
688
00:38:04,157 --> 00:38:07,867
about the surprisingly
high number of people
689
00:38:07,953 --> 00:38:12,956
who claim to have had
an encounter with the Devil.
690
00:38:20,841 --> 00:38:23,633
SHATNER:
The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Indianapolis reveals
691
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,428
that in just one year,
692
00:38:26,555 --> 00:38:30,807
they have received
1,700 requests for exorcisms.
693
00:38:30,892 --> 00:38:33,977
Ten times more
than in previous years.
694
00:38:34,062 --> 00:38:38,982
But what could explain
this rise in demand?
695
00:38:39,067 --> 00:38:40,942
All of the exorcists
I know in this country
696
00:38:41,069 --> 00:38:42,610
are busier and busier,
and busier.
697
00:38:42,738 --> 00:38:45,104
We, frankly, we can't deal
with all the cases.
698
00:38:45,198 --> 00:38:49,826
We have people come to us
who are Muslim or Jewish,
699
00:38:49,911 --> 00:38:53,079
atheist, many don't believe
in God or whatever,
700
00:38:53,165 --> 00:38:55,615
but they know they have demons,
and they need some help.
701
00:38:55,709 --> 00:38:57,625
So we'll-we'll often
exorcise people
702
00:38:57,753 --> 00:39:00,170
of other faiths
or people with no faith.
703
00:39:01,256 --> 00:39:03,757
CARGILL:
I think exorcists are so busy today
704
00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:07,794
if somebody believes
they're possessed by a demon,
705
00:39:07,888 --> 00:39:11,306
then maybe the only remedy
for that
706
00:39:11,433 --> 00:39:14,967
is for a spiritual authority
to come in and tell them,
707
00:39:15,062 --> 00:39:17,187
"This spirit is out of you."
708
00:39:17,272 --> 00:39:19,639
They're not going
to believe that a doctor
709
00:39:19,733 --> 00:39:22,734
can remedy evil manifestations
of some sort.
710
00:39:24,738 --> 00:39:27,647
SHATNER:
Evil manifestations?
711
00:39:27,741 --> 00:39:31,326
Is it possible
that Satan is not only real
712
00:39:31,453 --> 00:39:37,123
but that his influence on our
world is actually increasing?
713
00:39:37,209 --> 00:39:40,919
ROSSETTI:
There are certain hallmarks of Satan's presence.
714
00:39:41,004 --> 00:39:44,497
Discord, rage,
715
00:39:44,591 --> 00:39:47,384
violence,
716
00:39:47,469 --> 00:39:50,169
lack of dialogue,
lack of compassion,
717
00:39:50,263 --> 00:39:52,472
hatred,
all these sorts of things.
718
00:39:54,267 --> 00:39:56,342
I think we see more and more
of that in this country,
719
00:39:56,436 --> 00:39:59,771
so I think we're seeing more
and more of Satan's influence.
720
00:39:59,856 --> 00:40:01,848
Does that mean people
are possessed? No.
721
00:40:01,942 --> 00:40:04,401
But can Satan influence
a whole culture? Sure, he can.
722
00:40:06,279 --> 00:40:08,354
BADER:
If you start looking very, very hard
723
00:40:08,448 --> 00:40:11,408
for satanism, you will find it,
724
00:40:11,493 --> 00:40:13,493
You will find certain crimes
that draw attention,
725
00:40:13,578 --> 00:40:15,870
like the Richard Ramirez
crimes...
726
00:40:17,499 --> 00:40:18,865
...that clearly have some sort
727
00:40:18,959 --> 00:40:20,708
of satanic motivation
behind them.
728
00:40:22,337 --> 00:40:25,588
One of the most iconic images
of Richard Ramirez
729
00:40:25,674 --> 00:40:28,800
is of him holding up his hand
with a pentagram on his palm
730
00:40:28,885 --> 00:40:30,710
and showing it to the jury.
731
00:40:30,804 --> 00:40:33,847
And this is unfortunately
what has happened in many cases
732
00:40:33,932 --> 00:40:35,715
where a serial killer might
leave behind
733
00:40:35,809 --> 00:40:39,978
so-called satanic symbols
or images at a crime scene.
734
00:40:40,063 --> 00:40:41,896
Any crime will be
more frightening
735
00:40:42,023 --> 00:40:46,726
to the general public if a layer
of satanism is added to it,
736
00:40:46,820 --> 00:40:50,071
because that means this crime
goes beyond human motivation
737
00:40:50,198 --> 00:40:52,565
and that there was something
more at work here
738
00:40:52,659 --> 00:40:54,734
just than a deranged person,
that maybe the devil himself
739
00:40:54,828 --> 00:40:56,661
was motivating these killings.
740
00:40:56,746 --> 00:40:59,405
ROSSETTI:
Satan tempts everyone.
741
00:40:59,499 --> 00:41:02,709
And sometimes it's subtle,
but he's a great psychologist.
742
00:41:02,794 --> 00:41:04,961
He knows you,
he tries to manipulate you,
743
00:41:05,046 --> 00:41:07,797
and sometimes you don't
know it's the evil one.
744
00:41:07,883 --> 00:41:11,417
You know, the voice says,
"You're evil. You're a sinner.
745
00:41:11,511 --> 00:41:14,420
God doesn't care about you,
there's no hope for you."
746
00:41:14,514 --> 00:41:17,891
That's not God's voice, that's
Satan's voice in your ear.
747
00:41:23,356 --> 00:41:25,607
So, what do you think?
748
00:41:25,734 --> 00:41:29,819
Is Satan an all-powerful
lord of darkness?
749
00:41:29,905 --> 00:41:32,772
The source of all evil
in the world?
750
00:41:32,866 --> 00:41:37,744
Or is he an idea
that humanity created
751
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:41,080
an excuse,
or a method of control
752
00:41:41,166 --> 00:41:44,951
so that we don't have
to face the darkness
753
00:41:45,045 --> 00:41:48,671
that lurks within ourselves?
754
00:41:48,757 --> 00:41:50,548
Perhaps the answers
to these questions
755
00:41:50,634 --> 00:41:53,459
will, as they have
for centuries,
756
00:41:53,553 --> 00:41:57,797
remain UnXplained.
757
00:41:57,891 --> 00:42:01,142
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