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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:46,141 --> 00:00:48,916 I used to love the carnival. 2 00:00:50,221 --> 00:00:55,500 Daddy worked all the fairs selling pretzel�s and candy apple... 3 00:00:55,741 --> 00:00:58,516 ...always looking for something better. 4 00:00:59,261 --> 00:01:02,036 Sometimes mama would follow him... 5 00:01:02,261 --> 00:01:05,229 ...sometimes he'd even take us. 6 00:01:05,981 --> 00:01:10,480 It was always a new adventure with a whole new family every time. 7 00:01:10,761 --> 00:01:15,792 I figured Jennie and me were the luckiest girls in the world with a life like that. 8 00:01:16,341 --> 00:01:19,275 My favorite was the merry-go-round. 9 00:01:19,701 --> 00:01:22,580 Maybe I was a little old for it but... 10 00:01:22,581 --> 00:01:26,072 ...all those other rides they scared me. 11 00:01:30,220 --> 00:01:35,293 The merry-go-round just goes round and round and up and down. 12 00:01:37,300 --> 00:01:41,110 You don't get anywhere but you always feel safe. 13 00:01:59,540 --> 00:02:02,633 That's me, on the left... 14 00:02:03,059 --> 00:02:04,912 ...Sylvia... 15 00:02:05,339 --> 00:02:07,875 ...and this is my story. 16 00:02:44,538 --> 00:02:46,710 Would you please state your name. 17 00:02:46,938 --> 00:02:48,577 Lester Likens. 18 00:02:48,578 --> 00:02:50,857 Are you married to Betty Likens? 19 00:02:50,858 --> 00:02:52,457 Yes. 20 00:02:52,458 --> 00:02:55,297 Did you and your wife ever separate? 21 00:02:55,298 --> 00:02:56,857 Yes. 22 00:02:56,858 --> 00:02:59,657 What period of time did that occur? 23 00:02:59,658 --> 00:03:03,217 The last week in June 1965. 24 00:03:03,218 --> 00:03:07,217 She was at Euclid street, and I was in Lebanon, Indiana. 25 00:03:07,218 --> 00:03:09,137 Where were the children? 26 00:03:09,138 --> 00:03:12,710 Jennie Faye and Silvia Marie was with her. 27 00:03:17,697 --> 00:03:19,710 Do you think, we'll make new friends? 28 00:03:20,057 --> 00:03:21,496 Sure we will. 29 00:03:21,497 --> 00:03:23,676 Well, maybe there'll be some cute boys this time. 30 00:03:23,677 --> 00:03:25,656 Church boys mean to be cute. 31 00:03:25,657 --> 00:03:29,115 Come on girls, you don't wanna be late now for service. 32 00:03:30,657 --> 00:03:32,016 Hey! 33 00:03:32,017 --> 00:03:33,216 Daddy? 34 00:03:33,217 --> 00:03:35,576 - Hey, Jennie. - What're you doing here? 35 00:03:35,577 --> 00:03:37,795 Well, I missed you girls. 36 00:03:37,857 --> 00:03:40,552 Hi Betty, can I talk to you for a minute? 37 00:03:42,057 --> 00:03:44,876 You know, I've been talking to Horst and he says... 38 00:03:44,877 --> 00:03:47,496 ...that we could maybe swing our own boot at the State-fair this year. 39 00:03:47,497 --> 00:03:49,096 Then maybe we could make enough money to go on tour. 40 00:03:49,097 --> 00:03:52,556 I told you Lester, I can't do it anymore, not with the girls. 41 00:03:52,591 --> 00:03:54,575 Maybe my mother will take them. 42 00:03:54,576 --> 00:03:56,655 I can't move them up there again. 43 00:03:56,656 --> 00:03:59,535 They haven't even had a chance to make friends down here yet. 44 00:03:59,536 --> 00:04:03,375 Betty, maybe we wouldn't fight this much, without the kids. 45 00:04:03,376 --> 00:04:04,991 Mama? 46 00:04:05,296 --> 00:04:08,295 You two, go on ahead and catch the church bus home. 47 00:04:08,296 --> 00:04:11,071 I've gotta settle things with your father. 48 00:04:18,176 --> 00:04:21,535 See what love The Father has given us... 49 00:04:21,536 --> 00:04:24,834 ...and we are called children of God. 50 00:04:26,136 --> 00:04:28,455 And so we are! 51 00:04:28,456 --> 00:04:31,454 But how does a child, come on to his Father? 52 00:04:31,455 --> 00:04:34,753 How does The Father, come on to the child? 53 00:04:35,015 --> 00:04:38,494 Christ said: I am the way, the truth, the life and none... 54 00:04:38,495 --> 00:04:42,908 ...come on to The Father but by me. 55 00:04:43,055 --> 00:04:47,230 Our families, our fathers, our mothers. 56 00:04:47,615 --> 00:04:51,054 It is only through Christ, that we find The Father. 57 00:04:51,055 --> 00:04:54,308 And it's only through Christ, that we find each other. 58 00:05:02,175 --> 00:05:04,414 Oh, that's a beautiful dress, Hope. 59 00:05:04,415 --> 00:05:06,314 Oh, thank you, Gertrude. 60 00:05:06,855 --> 00:05:10,453 And um, I'm feeling much better on my new medicine and... 61 00:05:10,454 --> 00:05:14,293 ...if you know anybody who needs ironing to be done, I'd appreciate the work. 62 00:05:14,294 --> 00:05:15,863 I'll do that. 63 00:05:15,974 --> 00:05:17,873 Thank you. 64 00:05:24,574 --> 00:05:26,093 What happened to your leg? 65 00:05:26,094 --> 00:05:27,933 That's not polite, Shirley! 66 00:05:27,934 --> 00:05:30,173 It's alright, she's used to it. 67 00:05:30,174 --> 00:05:32,744 - So what is it? - Polio. 68 00:05:33,334 --> 00:05:35,093 Polio? 69 00:05:35,094 --> 00:05:36,913 Does that hurt? 70 00:05:37,374 --> 00:05:39,307 Our mama's sick too. 71 00:05:40,294 --> 00:05:42,022 All right girls! 72 00:05:42,814 --> 00:05:44,253 We gotta go. 73 00:05:44,254 --> 00:05:46,152 Can they come with us? 74 00:05:46,533 --> 00:05:48,732 You wanna come? We've got some friends coming over... 75 00:05:48,733 --> 00:05:51,652 ...and you can meet our older sister. 76 00:05:51,653 --> 00:05:53,608 Sure! 77 00:06:08,653 --> 00:06:11,132 Guess who got stuck with an extra shift at work? 78 00:06:11,133 --> 00:06:12,732 - Did you get paid? -Hm'hm. 79 00:06:12,733 --> 00:06:15,052 Got a little extra for dinner. 80 00:06:15,053 --> 00:06:16,812 Here, take the baby. 81 00:06:16,813 --> 00:06:18,666 Where'd they come from? 82 00:06:19,293 --> 00:06:20,412 What's this? 83 00:06:20,413 --> 00:06:22,971 We invited them to stay and play. 84 00:06:22,972 --> 00:06:24,851 We'll be quiet. 85 00:06:24,852 --> 00:06:27,024 All right, make sure of it. 86 00:06:30,332 --> 00:06:32,504 I really like this song. 87 00:06:33,132 --> 00:06:34,491 What does your dad do? 88 00:06:34,492 --> 00:06:36,411 He is cop, they are divorced. 89 00:06:36,412 --> 00:06:37,571 Do you miss him any? 90 00:06:37,572 --> 00:06:39,171 Nah, I just miss his money. 91 00:06:39,172 --> 00:06:41,171 - But, Paula! - Well, it's true. 92 00:06:41,172 --> 00:06:42,997 Maybe, if he's more regular with his support... 93 00:06:43,032 --> 00:06:46,451 ...mom wouldn't be so sick and I wouldn't have to work so hard. 94 00:06:46,452 --> 00:06:48,251 Little Kenny's got a different daddy. 95 00:06:48,252 --> 00:06:50,131 - Who's little Kenny? - The baby. 96 00:06:50,132 --> 00:06:52,091 But we ain't supposed to talk about that. 97 00:06:54,692 --> 00:06:55,891 There! 98 00:06:55,892 --> 00:06:57,811 Wow! You should do this for a living. 99 00:06:57,812 --> 00:06:59,490 Yeah, if she was old enough. 100 00:06:59,491 --> 00:07:00,890 You want me to do yours? 101 00:07:00,891 --> 00:07:02,410 Oh, no, thanks. 102 00:07:02,411 --> 00:07:03,890 Yeah, she's the pretty one. 103 00:07:03,891 --> 00:07:06,010 Yeah, she's got nice hair. 104 00:07:06,011 --> 00:07:08,210 - I'm pretty too. - The hell you are! 105 00:07:08,211 --> 00:07:10,290 Oh, let me see that brush. 106 00:07:10,291 --> 00:07:13,170 I tell you what? Let's go get a coke. 107 00:07:13,171 --> 00:07:16,210 My boyfriend works over at the liquor store,he gets me out a couple. 108 00:07:16,211 --> 00:07:17,810 Sure. 109 00:07:17,811 --> 00:07:19,869 You girls behave! 110 00:07:20,571 --> 00:07:22,530 We're goin' to the grocery. 111 00:07:22,531 --> 00:07:24,810 Tell Andy, he owes me for little Kenny! 112 00:07:24,811 --> 00:07:26,530 And don't be waistin' time on that bag-boy. 113 00:07:26,531 --> 00:07:28,250 He ain't a bag-boy, Mama! 114 00:07:28,251 --> 00:07:30,423 Sort of wasted space. 115 00:07:30,811 --> 00:07:33,610 - She don't like my boyfriend. - Yeah, I can see that. 116 00:07:33,611 --> 00:07:35,783 Hey, Johnny, quit it! 117 00:07:36,051 --> 00:07:38,063 Sorry, Mrs. Doyle. 118 00:07:39,090 --> 00:07:40,209 Hey! 119 00:07:40,210 --> 00:07:41,449 You weren't at church today. 120 00:07:41,450 --> 00:07:42,769 Coy and I headin' over there now. 121 00:07:42,770 --> 00:07:44,339 Yeah, you better be. 122 00:07:44,530 --> 00:07:46,349 Let's get outta here. 123 00:07:46,730 --> 00:07:49,049 That's my sister Stephanie, she's big help around the house... 124 00:07:49,050 --> 00:07:51,506 ...when she ain't wasting time with her boyfriend Coy. 125 00:07:53,010 --> 00:07:54,909 Oh, God! 126 00:07:55,170 --> 00:07:56,529 Hey, Paula. 127 00:07:56,530 --> 00:07:58,249 Mama was asking after her money. 128 00:07:58,250 --> 00:07:59,849 I bet she was. 129 00:07:59,850 --> 00:08:01,249 Who's your friend? 130 00:08:01,250 --> 00:08:04,649 Sylvia, but she don't talk to trash. 131 00:08:04,650 --> 00:08:05,769 Excuse me. 132 00:08:05,770 --> 00:08:07,489 That's my mama's ex boyfriend. 133 00:08:07,490 --> 00:08:10,060 He's only 6 years older than me. 134 00:08:11,250 --> 00:08:13,308 Just like her mom. 135 00:08:16,089 --> 00:08:17,728 That's him. 136 00:08:17,729 --> 00:08:19,742 That's my Bradley. 137 00:08:20,209 --> 00:08:22,461 He's real cute. 138 00:08:24,049 --> 00:08:26,648 We got both to be real careful about it. 139 00:08:26,649 --> 00:08:28,423 Why? 140 00:08:28,849 --> 00:08:30,543 Because he's married. 141 00:08:32,049 --> 00:08:34,888 I'm not even shittin' you, no! 142 00:08:34,889 --> 00:08:36,504 Paula! 143 00:08:37,449 --> 00:08:39,826 Don't tell me you never had a boyfriend. 144 00:08:40,449 --> 00:08:44,578 Ah, well, there was this guy in California but... 145 00:08:45,409 --> 00:08:47,088 ...I guess it was nothing. 146 00:08:47,089 --> 00:08:49,580 Well, at least you did more than kiss, right? 147 00:08:51,288 --> 00:08:54,087 Well, aren't you just so damn pure! 148 00:08:54,088 --> 00:08:56,146 Oh, come on. 149 00:08:59,448 --> 00:09:00,983 Let's go! 150 00:09:02,488 --> 00:09:06,007 This is Pleiku, 250 miles north of Saigon. 151 00:09:06,008 --> 00:09:09,667 The Air Base that was threatened by Vietnamiese communist guerillas... 152 00:09:25,008 --> 00:09:26,487 Marie! 153 00:09:26,488 --> 00:09:28,207 I need you to feed little Kenny. 154 00:09:28,208 --> 00:09:31,686 If I don't get this ironing to Mrs. Duke by four, I won't get a tip. 155 00:09:31,687 --> 00:09:33,726 - We're all out of milk. - Well, go get some. 156 00:09:33,727 --> 00:09:35,686 They wont give us no more credit at the store. 157 00:09:35,687 --> 00:09:37,939 They will, if you take the baby. 158 00:09:38,047 --> 00:09:39,566 Hello! 159 00:09:39,567 --> 00:09:41,366 Oh, hi, I'm sorry. 160 00:09:41,367 --> 00:09:43,903 Huh, somebody said they saw my girls here. 161 00:09:44,687 --> 00:09:46,966 You got no family here in Indy? 162 00:09:46,967 --> 00:09:50,061 Well, not that I could leave them with. 163 00:09:50,647 --> 00:09:52,886 'Cause of them or you? 164 00:09:52,887 --> 00:09:54,866 A little of both. 165 00:09:55,567 --> 00:09:57,846 Hi, Mrs. Baniszewski, is Shirley and Marie here? 166 00:09:57,847 --> 00:09:59,166 Upstairs. 167 00:09:59,167 --> 00:10:01,066 Shut the door! 168 00:10:03,807 --> 00:10:06,979 Looks like, you've got kids running in and outta here, all day long. 169 00:10:11,606 --> 00:10:14,859 Why don't you leave Sylvia and Jenny, here with me? 170 00:10:17,246 --> 00:10:19,445 No, I couldn't do that. 171 00:10:19,446 --> 00:10:22,725 I got six kids, two more wont make a difference. 172 00:10:22,726 --> 00:10:25,217 I guess that's true. 173 00:10:30,926 --> 00:10:34,259 20 dollars a week and you won't have to worry. 174 00:10:37,686 --> 00:10:39,938 You'd be helping me out too. 175 00:10:40,246 --> 00:10:43,214 I could talk to my wife about it. 176 00:10:46,365 --> 00:10:49,060 Something to consider. 177 00:10:52,845 --> 00:10:56,764 So, you'd never met Gertrude Baniszewski before that day? 178 00:10:56,765 --> 00:10:58,444 No, Sir. 179 00:10:58,445 --> 00:11:02,017 But you were willing to leave your children with a complete stranger? 180 00:11:03,525 --> 00:11:07,650 Well, like I said, uh, we got to talking and... 181 00:11:07,685 --> 00:11:10,964 ...she openly admitted, that she would take care of the children... 182 00:11:10,965 --> 00:11:13,854 ...and treat them like they were her own. 183 00:11:15,125 --> 00:11:17,324 Okay! Here is 20 now... 184 00:11:17,325 --> 00:11:20,324 ...and uh, you'll have the next payment in a week, Thursday. 185 00:11:20,325 --> 00:11:23,243 -I'll need that money. -You'll have it. 186 00:11:23,244 --> 00:11:25,123 Johnny, bring the box upstairs! 187 00:11:25,124 --> 00:11:27,163 I appreciate that, sweetheart. 188 00:11:27,164 --> 00:11:29,043 I sure don't want you to go. 189 00:11:29,044 --> 00:11:31,803 The circuit will be dying down at the end of September. 190 00:11:31,804 --> 00:11:33,363 That's over 2 months. 191 00:11:33,364 --> 00:11:36,583 And I promise, I will be back to get you girls then. 192 00:11:36,844 --> 00:11:40,142 Okay, kids. Goodbye, Jenny. Cookie! 193 00:11:40,604 --> 00:11:42,323 - You be good! - Okay. 194 00:11:42,324 --> 00:11:44,098 All right! 195 00:11:45,164 --> 00:11:46,483 -Bye. -Bye. 196 00:11:46,484 --> 00:11:48,417 Bye, girls. 197 00:11:49,444 --> 00:11:51,803 You girls make sure you get everything you need. 198 00:11:51,804 --> 00:11:53,293 Thank you. 199 00:11:54,324 --> 00:11:57,623 Well, come on! We'll help you unpack. 200 00:12:02,323 --> 00:12:04,222 Wait, I'll help you. 201 00:12:23,123 --> 00:12:24,802 Nothing to be nervous about. 202 00:12:24,803 --> 00:12:27,402 Everyone's really nice here. I promise. 203 00:12:27,403 --> 00:12:30,802 Hey, Paula, get your cherry popped, this summer? 204 00:12:30,803 --> 00:12:33,522 You sure didn't, Teddy, not with a face like that. 205 00:12:33,523 --> 00:12:35,322 Hey, come on Paula, you know we're just playing. 206 00:12:35,323 --> 00:12:38,001 So, why don't you play with yourselves? 207 00:12:38,002 --> 00:12:40,521 Coy is okay, but Teddy is a goddamn delinquent. 208 00:12:40,522 --> 00:12:41,641 Paula! 209 00:12:41,642 --> 00:12:44,481 Those guys, they're always messing with somebody. 210 00:12:44,482 --> 00:12:46,441 I'm sure, she will be okay. 211 00:12:46,442 --> 00:12:50,121 - You live with Paula and them? - Yeah, for a bid, I guess. 212 00:12:50,122 --> 00:12:53,375 Yeah, I saw you the other day. 213 00:12:53,682 --> 00:12:55,761 I live right around the corner, I'm Ricky Hobbs. 214 00:12:55,762 --> 00:12:57,041 Sylvia. 215 00:12:57,042 --> 00:12:58,961 Hey, there's a football game this weekend... 216 00:12:58,962 --> 00:13:00,801 ...if you'd be interested in that at all. 217 00:13:00,802 --> 00:13:02,721 Oh, I don't really much like football. 218 00:13:02,722 --> 00:13:04,621 Sylvia, come on! 219 00:13:05,082 --> 00:13:06,776 Good bye! 220 00:13:10,442 --> 00:13:11,921 It's me! 221 00:13:11,922 --> 00:13:14,040 Hope you brought my money. 222 00:13:14,041 --> 00:13:16,497 Nice to see you too. 223 00:13:17,161 --> 00:13:19,936 Came by to see my babies. 224 00:13:26,721 --> 00:13:28,080 Hi! 225 00:13:28,081 --> 00:13:29,696 Hey! 226 00:13:31,001 --> 00:13:32,600 Leave him! 227 00:13:32,601 --> 00:13:36,776 Well, I got my call-up papers. I have to go to boot-camp soon. 228 00:13:39,401 --> 00:13:41,334 Put him back in. 229 00:13:43,521 --> 00:13:46,660 It took me all day to quiet him. 230 00:13:47,961 --> 00:13:50,759 - Not in front of the baby! - Why? He don't care. 231 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,613 I do! 232 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,119 Listen, I'll be getting a paycheck. 233 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,451 So, you'll be getting payments regularly. 234 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,370 Who's gonna take care of you? 235 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,919 Well, actually I was wondering if I could borrow a few Dollars... 236 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,577 ...so I could go and see my brother in Lebanon, before I leave. 237 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,079 If I had the money, I'd give it to you. 238 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,839 I saw your new boarders. 239 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,639 Don't tell me, you're doing that for charity. 240 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,839 I had to take them in, because of you. 241 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,638 I ain't paying for another man's kids. 242 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:30,492 You ain't paying for your... 243 00:14:34,759 --> 00:14:36,897 I'm sorry, Gertie. 244 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:39,178 I'm sorry. 245 00:14:46,839 --> 00:14:49,358 So, how was the first day at school? 246 00:14:50,259 --> 00:14:51,878 I actually made a couple of friends. 247 00:14:51,879 --> 00:14:55,478 See, we ain't such bad people, here on the Southside. 248 00:14:55,479 --> 00:14:58,358 Can you pick up the kids and bring'm home? 249 00:14:58,359 --> 00:14:59,918 There's something I have to take care of. 250 00:14:59,919 --> 00:15:01,118 Yeah, is everything alright? 251 00:15:01,119 --> 00:15:03,798 Just tell mama, I picked up an extra shift at work. 252 00:15:03,799 --> 00:15:05,493 Sure. 253 00:15:06,598 --> 00:15:09,817 You know, Paula is looking more and more like you everyday. 254 00:15:10,678 --> 00:15:12,657 Lucky girl. 255 00:15:13,958 --> 00:15:16,335 Should watch her, though. 256 00:15:16,678 --> 00:15:19,487 She's been hanging out with Bradley again. 257 00:15:20,238 --> 00:15:22,557 I hate to think what'll happen. 258 00:15:22,558 --> 00:15:25,208 His wife's got a bad temper. 259 00:15:32,878 --> 00:15:35,687 You think, that I can get that money? 260 00:15:39,998 --> 00:15:42,887 There's a 20 in the top drawer. 261 00:16:02,037 --> 00:16:04,116 Where do you live Mrs. Doyle? 262 00:16:04,117 --> 00:16:06,196 3848, East New York. 263 00:16:06,197 --> 00:16:08,476 You can almost reach out of your dining room window... 264 00:16:08,477 --> 00:16:10,436 ...and end at Baniszewski's kitchen, can't you? 265 00:16:10,437 --> 00:16:12,276 It's not that close. 266 00:16:12,277 --> 00:16:16,436 Because of the experience that you saw Mrs. Baniszewski having there... 267 00:16:16,437 --> 00:16:19,497 ...did you develop any bias, or prejudice against her? 268 00:16:19,956 --> 00:16:22,235 No, I felt sorry for the lady. 269 00:16:22,236 --> 00:16:25,155 I felt she was a hard working woman with all them kids. 270 00:16:25,156 --> 00:16:29,228 Did you entertain any guilt feelings, or animosity towards her? 271 00:16:29,236 --> 00:16:33,575 -No, I can't judge her. -I beg your pardon? 272 00:16:33,756 --> 00:16:36,247 I can't judge her. 273 00:16:38,276 --> 00:16:42,170 - Would you like to say prayer, Sylvia? - Sure. 274 00:16:42,756 --> 00:16:44,835 Bless this food we eat, and release... 275 00:16:44,836 --> 00:16:46,955 ...us from our sins, amen. 276 00:16:46,956 --> 00:16:48,889 Amen! 277 00:16:52,636 --> 00:16:55,155 Somebody get out there and feed that dog! 278 00:16:55,156 --> 00:16:57,055 Yeah, mama. 279 00:17:01,435 --> 00:17:02,994 Sorry, I'm late. 280 00:17:02,995 --> 00:17:04,814 Where have you been? 281 00:17:05,115 --> 00:17:08,209 I picked up the shift from Ellen. 282 00:17:09,555 --> 00:17:12,534 I told you, I didn't want you to see that boy anymore and I mean it. 283 00:17:12,535 --> 00:17:16,154 -I didn't see him. -Don't lie to me, Paula. 284 00:17:16,395 --> 00:17:19,250 What? Was he here? Did Andy say something? 285 00:17:19,555 --> 00:17:21,674 - That's none of your business. - Yeah, you just don't want me... 286 00:17:21,675 --> 00:17:25,170 ...making the same mistakes, that you've made. 287 00:17:32,635 --> 00:17:35,704 I said, feed that dog! 288 00:17:39,114 --> 00:17:41,991 Johnny, feed the dog! 289 00:17:53,034 --> 00:17:55,286 What's wrong, Paula? 290 00:17:57,154 --> 00:17:59,884 I've got problems, Sylvia... 291 00:18:00,594 --> 00:18:02,971 ...big problems. 292 00:18:06,114 --> 00:18:08,206 With Bradley? 293 00:18:12,793 --> 00:18:15,887 I went to the doctor, today. 294 00:18:17,833 --> 00:18:20,164 I'm pregnant. 295 00:18:26,033 --> 00:18:28,512 You know the guy is married.. 296 00:18:28,513 --> 00:18:30,392 ...I know, he wouldn't want a baby. 297 00:18:30,393 --> 00:18:33,532 I don't know a damn thing to do. 298 00:18:36,033 --> 00:18:38,569 Well, you, you gotta tell him. 299 00:18:38,793 --> 00:18:40,931 I can't. 300 00:18:41,433 --> 00:18:43,810 Well, I think you gotta. 301 00:18:45,473 --> 00:18:50,250 You gotta promise me, that you won't say anything to anybody. 302 00:18:51,272 --> 00:18:55,651 Not a word, until I figure out what I'm gonna do, okay? 303 00:18:57,352 --> 00:18:59,649 Yeah, I promise. 304 00:19:03,072 --> 00:19:05,290 It's gonna be okay. 305 00:20:05,550 --> 00:20:07,403 Mama? 306 00:20:13,470 --> 00:20:15,198 Mama! 307 00:20:25,390 --> 00:20:27,687 I want you all, upstairs! 308 00:20:28,990 --> 00:20:30,923 Come on! 309 00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:33,602 Except for you two! 310 00:20:35,230 --> 00:20:37,800 I want you down in the basement! 311 00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:55,588 Your daddy�s' check didn't arrive today. 312 00:20:55,589 --> 00:20:57,886 Oh, it's probably just late. 313 00:20:58,189 --> 00:21:01,628 I know my mama, she wouldn't let him forget. 314 00:21:01,629 --> 00:21:03,448 You know what I think? 315 00:21:03,469 --> 00:21:08,087 I just took care of you two, for two weeks, for nothing. 316 00:21:09,189 --> 00:21:11,788 I think your mama and daddy... 317 00:21:11,789 --> 00:21:14,086 ...left you here for good. 318 00:21:14,229 --> 00:21:16,028 They wouldn't do that. 319 00:21:16,029 --> 00:21:18,247 Keep your mouth shut! 320 00:21:23,308 --> 00:21:25,400 Lean over those. 321 00:21:25,988 --> 00:21:28,285 Go on, lean over. 322 00:21:43,508 --> 00:21:46,067 - No! - Come on, come on! 323 00:21:46,068 --> 00:21:48,307 - Oh, no! - Get up! 324 00:21:48,308 --> 00:21:49,887 - Gertie! - Come on! 325 00:21:49,888 --> 00:21:53,240 - No, let go of me! - Let me get hers. 326 00:22:13,827 --> 00:22:15,726 Okay. 327 00:22:16,467 --> 00:22:18,241 Come on. 328 00:22:25,827 --> 00:22:27,806 Okay. 329 00:22:33,467 --> 00:22:36,036 I need that money. 330 00:22:53,146 --> 00:22:55,557 Come on, Jennie. 331 00:22:57,986 --> 00:23:01,922 It's not like, we never had a spanking before. 332 00:23:03,746 --> 00:23:07,716 You know, that check's gonna come tomorrow, I swear. 333 00:23:25,065 --> 00:23:27,304 - Johnny! - What? Give me the thing back! 334 00:23:27,305 --> 00:23:30,224 -Stop that! -Stop hurting me. 335 00:23:30,265 --> 00:23:32,824 I'm 15, I should be able to go. 336 00:23:32,825 --> 00:23:35,759 Well, somebody's gotta play catch with the little ones. 337 00:23:36,425 --> 00:23:39,439 I wonder if Bradley is gonna be there. 338 00:23:41,145 --> 00:23:43,317 Freedom was in jeopardy... 339 00:23:43,745 --> 00:23:46,904 ...when the struggling people had been brought... 340 00:23:46,905 --> 00:23:50,877 ...almost to their knees, by aggression. 341 00:23:51,104 --> 00:23:57,543 When William Westmoreland, was called to urgent duty... 342 00:23:57,657 --> 00:24:00,463 ...his mission was to deny aggression, it's conquest. 343 00:24:02,824 --> 00:24:06,555 It was a mission, simple enough to stake. 344 00:24:06,904 --> 00:24:09,634 But to execute that mission... 345 00:24:09,704 --> 00:24:13,843 ...he had to fight the most complex war in all American history. 346 00:24:13,864 --> 00:24:15,903 What're you gonna see tonight, Stephanie? 347 00:24:15,904 --> 00:24:17,823 Well, they ain't gonna be seeing a movie, Marie. 348 00:24:17,824 --> 00:24:19,383 The only thing she'll be seeing... 349 00:24:19,384 --> 00:24:21,503 ...is Coy's hand, while she's pushing him away. 350 00:24:21,504 --> 00:24:23,303 I might not be pushing to hard. 351 00:24:23,304 --> 00:24:25,143 Yeah, yeah, Princess Grace... 352 00:24:25,144 --> 00:24:26,982 ...you'd scream, if he breads on your blouse. 353 00:24:26,983 --> 00:24:29,062 That's not true, Paula, you know it. 354 00:24:29,063 --> 00:24:31,394 Don't give Sylvia the wrong idea, now. 355 00:24:31,703 --> 00:24:34,114 Look, I shot his eye out. 356 00:24:34,143 --> 00:24:35,382 Why'd you do that? 357 00:24:35,383 --> 00:24:37,236 Johnny! Get outta here! 358 00:24:38,223 --> 00:24:39,382 You're dead! 359 00:24:39,383 --> 00:24:41,562 That's insane. 360 00:24:42,503 --> 00:24:45,102 Listen, God! This is crap! 361 00:24:45,103 --> 00:24:48,662 There is nothing ever to do, in this shit-hole town. 362 00:24:48,663 --> 00:24:50,382 It ain't that bad, Teddy. 363 00:24:50,383 --> 00:24:52,157 Yeah, it is. 364 00:24:54,023 --> 00:24:55,751 Hi! 365 00:24:59,663 --> 00:25:02,677 You know? Don't know about you... 366 00:25:02,943 --> 00:25:05,141 ...but I'm staying up all night, tonight. 367 00:25:05,142 --> 00:25:07,941 Your parents ain't gonna like that. 368 00:25:07,942 --> 00:25:09,861 They don't give a shit. 369 00:25:09,862 --> 00:25:11,477 Do they? 370 00:25:11,942 --> 00:25:15,101 - You like it here? - Yeah, it's really nice. 371 00:25:15,102 --> 00:25:17,001 He's here. 372 00:25:17,302 --> 00:25:18,941 I'll be right back. 373 00:25:18,942 --> 00:25:20,841 Maybe you shouldn't. 374 00:25:26,902 --> 00:25:29,691 -Hey! -Ricky! 375 00:25:29,702 --> 00:25:31,781 You shouldn't sneak up on girls like that. 376 00:25:31,782 --> 00:25:33,341 I'm sorry. 377 00:25:33,342 --> 00:25:36,581 Hey, the nursery is around the corner. 378 00:25:36,582 --> 00:25:39,181 You might wanna get back, before they miss you. 379 00:25:39,182 --> 00:25:40,700 I brought some favors. 380 00:25:40,701 --> 00:25:42,520 Give me some of that! 381 00:25:46,501 --> 00:25:47,940 What're you doing here? 382 00:25:47,941 --> 00:25:50,716 - I wanted to see you. - We already talked about this. 383 00:25:51,461 --> 00:25:54,953 I'll just be right back. 384 00:25:56,021 --> 00:25:57,500 It's good! 385 00:25:57,501 --> 00:26:00,020 I already told you, my wife is back from her cousins house. 386 00:26:00,021 --> 00:26:01,954 So that's it. Okay? 387 00:26:02,181 --> 00:26:05,912 Now, be a good girl and go play with your friends. 388 00:26:07,741 --> 00:26:12,980 You know, my mama's been calling you trash and I'm starting to believe her. 389 00:26:12,981 --> 00:26:16,460 You'd listen to your mama, Paula. She knows best. 390 00:26:16,461 --> 00:26:18,499 I know, you don't mean that. 391 00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:20,819 Get off me! Get off me! 392 00:26:20,860 --> 00:26:22,793 - No! - Just a kiss. 393 00:26:23,180 --> 00:26:26,259 - Is this what you want, huh? - Stop it! Stop! 394 00:26:26,260 --> 00:26:28,297 - Hey! Stop! - Get the hell outta here! 395 00:26:28,298 --> 00:26:30,197 It's a private conversation. 396 00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:32,515 She is pregnant! 397 00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:42,510 Don't try to pull that shit on me! I know that ain't true. 398 00:26:43,180 --> 00:26:45,079 There ain't no way. 399 00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:49,038 Stay away. 400 00:26:50,660 --> 00:26:52,619 Paula, I'm so sorry. I just wanted to... 401 00:26:52,620 --> 00:26:56,729 - You're gonna pay for that! - I, Paula, I just... 402 00:27:00,699 --> 00:27:02,578 Is everything okay? 403 00:27:02,579 --> 00:27:05,490 Would you quit following me! 404 00:27:16,379 --> 00:27:17,994 Paula? 405 00:27:19,419 --> 00:27:21,058 Honey, you're crying! 406 00:27:21,059 --> 00:27:23,277 - Mom! - What's wrong? 407 00:27:24,139 --> 00:27:26,818 I ain't talking to him anymore. 408 00:27:26,819 --> 00:27:32,137 Oh, that's a good girl, that's a good girl, yes. 409 00:27:32,738 --> 00:27:35,377 You know, we're gonna find you a good man, honey. 410 00:27:35,378 --> 00:27:38,808 Not like Andy, or your daddy. 411 00:27:39,138 --> 00:27:43,729 -But Sylvia said... -What? 412 00:27:46,898 --> 00:27:50,674 She is telling horrible lies about me. 413 00:27:53,618 --> 00:27:55,949 What kind of lies? 414 00:28:00,658 --> 00:28:04,036 She's telling everyone that I'm a slut. 415 00:28:06,778 --> 00:28:11,937 You should've seen those boys when they heard that I was a slut. 416 00:28:12,177 --> 00:28:14,508 Sylvia said that? 417 00:28:22,217 --> 00:28:25,255 Don't worry, baby... 418 00:28:25,297 --> 00:28:27,515 ...don't you worry. 419 00:28:33,217 --> 00:28:37,576 Did you ever hear Sylvia use any vanity or vulgar language? 420 00:28:37,577 --> 00:28:38,696 No, Sir. 421 00:28:38,697 --> 00:28:43,176 Do you know how often Sylvia went to Sunday school on church? 422 00:28:43,177 --> 00:28:44,856 She'd go every time we would. 423 00:28:44,857 --> 00:28:47,376 - Does Sylvia have a bible? - Yes. 424 00:28:47,377 --> 00:28:49,815 Did she dress up nice and clean? 425 00:28:49,816 --> 00:28:51,255 Yes, Sir. 426 00:28:51,256 --> 00:28:55,669 As Mathew said: "Enter by the narrow gate". 427 00:28:55,896 --> 00:29:01,415 "For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction... " 428 00:29:01,416 --> 00:29:05,033 "... and those who enter by it, are many. " 429 00:29:06,296 --> 00:29:10,161 "When the gate is narrow and the way is hard... " 430 00:29:10,196 --> 00:29:16,471 "... that leads to life and those who find it, are few. " 431 00:29:32,415 --> 00:29:35,065 Jennie, come sit with me! 432 00:29:54,455 --> 00:29:58,269 We need to go upstairs and get changed. 433 00:29:58,535 --> 00:30:01,185 I want you all down here. 434 00:30:01,415 --> 00:30:03,506 Family meeting. 435 00:30:05,614 --> 00:30:08,745 It's a lesson for all of you. 436 00:30:23,454 --> 00:30:26,104 You need to apologize to Paula. 437 00:30:32,814 --> 00:30:33,933 But Gertie, I, I didn't want to... 438 00:30:33,934 --> 00:30:36,133 I want you to apologize. 439 00:30:36,134 --> 00:30:38,226 What she'd done, mama? 440 00:30:38,494 --> 00:30:41,492 She's been spreading lies about your sister. 441 00:30:41,493 --> 00:30:43,187 I... 442 00:30:50,013 --> 00:30:51,912 I'm sorry. 443 00:30:53,173 --> 00:30:56,812 Paula, you have the right to get even. 444 00:30:56,813 --> 00:30:58,871 What you wanna do? 445 00:30:59,413 --> 00:31:01,585 I want you to punish her, mama. 446 00:31:04,013 --> 00:31:06,012 You have to learn to fight your own battles, baby. 447 00:31:06,013 --> 00:31:08,390 - Get over there. - Johnny, grab her arms. 448 00:31:08,933 --> 00:31:10,492 I said I was sorry. 449 00:31:10,493 --> 00:31:12,912 I don't care what you said. 450 00:31:14,893 --> 00:31:17,622 Go on, she's got it coming. 451 00:31:23,612 --> 00:31:25,067 Let her go! 452 00:31:25,772 --> 00:31:28,410 I'm sure, she can defend herself. 453 00:31:34,972 --> 00:31:36,771 I am not! 454 00:31:36,772 --> 00:31:38,411 Fight to fight! 455 00:31:38,412 --> 00:31:40,789 - I am not. - She is not! 456 00:31:42,772 --> 00:31:44,625 Damn it! 457 00:31:45,092 --> 00:31:47,230 Enough, that's okay! 458 00:31:49,932 --> 00:31:51,051 Get up! 459 00:31:51,052 --> 00:31:52,746 Get up! Get up! 460 00:31:56,331 --> 00:31:58,469 She's learned her lesson. 461 00:31:58,771 --> 00:32:01,546 That's what happens when you tell lies. 462 00:32:02,691 --> 00:32:04,510 Go on! 463 00:32:14,611 --> 00:32:16,510 You too, get out! 464 00:32:38,530 --> 00:32:40,748 Are you awake? 465 00:32:46,130 --> 00:32:48,188 You're okay? 466 00:32:51,170 --> 00:32:53,900 Did you say your prayers yet? 467 00:32:56,450 --> 00:32:59,180 How about mama's favorite song? 468 00:33:05,290 --> 00:33:09,226 Turn now to me and be gracious to me, Lord... 469 00:33:09,889 --> 00:33:13,128 ...for I am lonely and afflicted. 470 00:33:13,129 --> 00:33:15,848 Relieve the troubles of my heart... 471 00:33:15,849 --> 00:33:19,261 ...and bring me out of my distresses! 472 00:33:20,969 --> 00:33:24,108 Consider how many are my foes... 473 00:33:24,529 --> 00:33:25,648 Thank you. 474 00:33:25,649 --> 00:33:28,504 ...and with that violent hatred they hate me. 475 00:33:30,169 --> 00:33:33,467 Guard my life and deliver me. 476 00:33:34,409 --> 00:33:37,377 Let me not be put to shame... 477 00:33:38,209 --> 00:33:40,859 ...for I take refuge in thee... 478 00:33:43,249 --> 00:33:47,024 ...may integrity and uprightness preserve me. 479 00:33:50,208 --> 00:33:52,744 Amen. 480 00:34:09,528 --> 00:34:11,927 - I hear, your sister's pregnant. - I see you. 481 00:34:11,928 --> 00:34:15,261 - Who's the guy? - You know, that's not funny. 482 00:34:15,848 --> 00:34:18,145 I didn't say it. 483 00:34:19,288 --> 00:34:21,585 A lot of people are talking. 484 00:34:44,487 --> 00:34:46,500 Why aren't you in school? 485 00:34:56,847 --> 00:34:59,765 You, uh, doing okay? 486 00:35:00,767 --> 00:35:01,925 Yeah. 487 00:35:01,926 --> 00:35:04,223 It's, uh, Sylvia, right? 488 00:35:04,366 --> 00:35:06,060 Yeah. 489 00:35:07,086 --> 00:35:09,065 Eric. 490 00:35:09,126 --> 00:35:11,285 I, uh, I've seen you at church. 491 00:35:11,286 --> 00:35:13,378 Yeah, that's me. 492 00:35:13,886 --> 00:35:16,297 You're going to the picknick, on Saturday? 493 00:35:17,546 --> 00:35:19,571 Well, I hope so. 494 00:35:19,606 --> 00:35:23,034 Okay. Maybe I'll see you there. 495 00:35:27,166 --> 00:35:31,040 -I'm gonna go. -Okay. 496 00:35:34,206 --> 00:35:37,285 Why was Mama so upset about the other day? 497 00:35:37,286 --> 00:35:38,764 You haven't heard? 498 00:35:38,765 --> 00:35:41,004 I told everyone, that Paula was a slut. 499 00:35:41,005 --> 00:35:43,416 That's not true, is it? 500 00:35:44,765 --> 00:35:47,984 There's some worse rumors going around a bit on you. 501 00:35:51,165 --> 00:35:53,564 Do you think, she's pregnant? 502 00:35:53,565 --> 00:35:56,818 - What do you think? - Yeah, she's real easy. 503 00:36:06,845 --> 00:36:08,664 Thanks. 504 00:36:09,845 --> 00:36:12,063 How's your mama? 505 00:36:12,525 --> 00:36:14,299 Okay. 506 00:36:14,645 --> 00:36:16,963 She's still in the hospital? 507 00:36:16,964 --> 00:36:18,783 Yeah. 508 00:36:23,884 --> 00:36:26,102 Who's taking care of you? 509 00:36:28,684 --> 00:36:30,663 I am. 510 00:36:32,884 --> 00:36:35,614 Oh, you don't have a girlfriend? 511 00:36:37,404 --> 00:36:38,963 I don't know. 512 00:36:38,964 --> 00:36:41,163 - You don't know? - No, I don't. 513 00:36:41,164 --> 00:36:43,382 And, does she know? 514 00:36:47,204 --> 00:36:48,763 You wanna a sip? 515 00:36:48,764 --> 00:36:50,936 I ain't old enough. 516 00:36:53,284 --> 00:36:55,402 You ain't old enough to smoke, either... 517 00:36:55,403 --> 00:36:57,734 ...and that's not stopping you. 518 00:37:02,443 --> 00:37:04,296 Jennie? 519 00:37:04,883 --> 00:37:07,817 I think, we should call mom and dad. 520 00:37:08,203 --> 00:37:10,322 How are we supposed to do that? 521 00:37:10,323 --> 00:37:13,291 Here, I found this in the trash. 522 00:37:19,283 --> 00:37:23,255 So, uh, how long's Sylvia gonna be staying here? 523 00:37:23,443 --> 00:37:26,252 You got a crush on Sylvia? 524 00:37:33,362 --> 00:37:35,580 She is pretty. 525 00:37:37,122 --> 00:37:39,081 When I was in high-school... 526 00:37:39,082 --> 00:37:43,097 ...I was popular with the boys too then, they all chased me. 527 00:37:45,082 --> 00:37:47,334 I believe it. 528 00:37:47,802 --> 00:37:49,496 Thank you. 529 00:37:50,722 --> 00:37:53,178 Oh, are you warm. 530 00:37:59,082 --> 00:38:01,721 What're you doing home from school so early? 531 00:38:01,722 --> 00:38:04,531 I'm not feeling real good. 532 00:38:05,282 --> 00:38:07,010 Paula? 533 00:38:07,522 --> 00:38:09,579 You better go. 534 00:38:11,001 --> 00:38:13,000 Alright, you first. 535 00:38:13,001 --> 00:38:14,120 Hello? 536 00:38:14,121 --> 00:38:16,400 - Mama? - Oh, Honey! 537 00:38:16,401 --> 00:38:18,320 I was afraid, you didn't get our letter. 538 00:38:18,321 --> 00:38:20,480 Oh, mama, we miss you so much. 539 00:38:20,481 --> 00:38:22,120 Oh, I miss you too, Honey. 540 00:38:22,121 --> 00:38:24,240 I'm gonna pick you up in 2 weeks. 541 00:38:24,241 --> 00:38:26,697 So, how is everything going there? 542 00:38:27,921 --> 00:38:30,720 Gertrude's awful strict, mama. 543 00:38:30,721 --> 00:38:32,760 We got in a whole lotta trouble. 544 00:38:32,761 --> 00:38:34,480 What do you mean? Did she punish you? 545 00:38:34,481 --> 00:38:37,260 What? These girls been getting in trouble again? Let me talk to them. 546 00:38:37,261 --> 00:38:39,380 She got mad because your check's late. 547 00:38:39,441 --> 00:38:42,000 -Our check was late? -No, it wasn't. 548 00:38:42,001 --> 00:38:43,720 Let me talk to her. 549 00:38:43,721 --> 00:38:45,176 Mama, we gotta go. 550 00:38:45,321 --> 00:38:48,139 Sylvia? Sylvia? 551 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,853 They're coming, mama. 552 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,615 Calling your boyfriend, Sylvia? 553 00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:05,119 No. 554 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,999 Nobody special. 555 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,218 We miss our parents. 556 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,139 Thank you, Jennie. 557 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,879 Where'd you get the money to make a long-distance call? 558 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,559 I was picking up empty bottles at the Park, and traded'm in. 559 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,335 Honest, that's all she did. 560 00:39:35,999 --> 00:39:37,638 What she's gonna do? 561 00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:40,448 What she always does, when she catches you stealin'. 562 00:39:41,359 --> 00:39:44,054 Are you gonna lie to me again? 563 00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:47,078 - No, Gertie, I, - You gonna steal in this household? 564 00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:49,558 I didn't steal from you, Gertie. 565 00:39:49,559 --> 00:39:52,438 What, you gonna call your parents and wein that... 566 00:39:52,439 --> 00:39:56,158 -... Gertie doesn't treat you right? -No, ma'am. 567 00:39:57,359 --> 00:39:58,814 Alright. 568 00:40:01,318 --> 00:40:04,037 I'm sorry! I'm sorry! 569 00:40:10,358 --> 00:40:13,816 Okay, okay, that's a good girl, that's a good girl. 570 00:40:18,278 --> 00:40:20,814 You wanna put some ice on that. 571 00:40:29,438 --> 00:40:32,797 Now, I think you stated, Marie, that your sister Paula... 572 00:40:32,798 --> 00:40:36,637 ...you'd volunteered, that Paula was jealous of Sylvia. 573 00:40:36,638 --> 00:40:39,916 Every time she looked at her, her eyes looked like she hated her. 574 00:40:39,917 --> 00:40:42,772 Do you know, what the word jealous means? 575 00:40:43,077 --> 00:40:45,276 Angry at someone. 576 00:40:45,277 --> 00:40:47,276 Can you assign a reason... 577 00:40:47,277 --> 00:40:51,690 ...as to why Paula might shoot Sylvia, those angry, jealous glances? 578 00:40:53,357 --> 00:40:55,696 I guess, because Sylvia thought... 579 00:40:55,697 --> 00:40:58,756 ...she was so much more important than Paula was. 580 00:40:58,757 --> 00:41:01,396 Do you remember a time you went to Bethany Baptist church... 581 00:41:01,397 --> 00:41:05,053 ...and had little sandwiches and something to drink? 582 00:41:09,077 --> 00:41:12,436 I haven't seen you eat good for a few weeks. 583 00:41:12,437 --> 00:41:16,167 Oh, I'm sorry, Mrs. Orbach, I've I had to work. 584 00:41:16,196 --> 00:41:18,368 What happened to your arm, Paula? 585 00:41:19,156 --> 00:41:22,011 I lost my temper, with Sylvia. 586 00:41:22,316 --> 00:41:24,727 What do you mean, what happened? 587 00:41:26,916 --> 00:41:30,155 She's been doing some real terrible things. 588 00:41:30,156 --> 00:41:32,009 I had to be real strict with her. 589 00:41:34,836 --> 00:41:37,054 Come on, its Ok. It's Ok, come on. 590 00:41:37,476 --> 00:41:39,250 Don't take too much. 591 00:41:40,676 --> 00:41:42,315 Hey, what're you doing here? 592 00:41:42,316 --> 00:41:45,835 Came out for the free food and the women. 593 00:41:46,236 --> 00:41:48,795 I hope you don't want any money, because... 594 00:41:48,796 --> 00:41:51,795 - ... John Senior has... - I'm not here for money. 595 00:41:51,796 --> 00:41:55,414 Bradley sent me about Paula. 596 00:41:57,355 --> 00:42:00,653 - Did you say hi to the baby yet? - Hmm. 597 00:42:03,355 --> 00:42:06,634 - Look, about yesterday... - It's fine, it's fine. 598 00:42:06,635 --> 00:42:08,114 - Sylvia, I'm really... - It's alright... 599 00:42:08,115 --> 00:42:10,731 ...mama will be back by the end of this week. 600 00:42:18,635 --> 00:42:20,090 Hey! 601 00:42:20,555 --> 00:42:22,010 Hi! 602 00:42:22,795 --> 00:42:25,684 A couple of my friends are eating over there, you wanna join us? 603 00:42:26,355 --> 00:42:28,573 - Sure. - Okay. 604 00:42:29,275 --> 00:42:30,993 Sylvia! 605 00:42:30,994 --> 00:42:34,610 - Just one second. - No problem. 606 00:42:35,714 --> 00:42:39,684 Ricky, you know what I said the other day about Paula? 607 00:42:39,714 --> 00:42:41,693 Did you say something? 608 00:42:41,794 --> 00:42:43,568 No. 609 00:42:43,714 --> 00:42:45,193 Because people are talking... 610 00:42:45,194 --> 00:42:47,353 ...and Stephanie and Paula, are blaming me. 611 00:42:47,354 --> 00:42:50,749 No, no, I wouldn't do something like that. 612 00:42:51,074 --> 00:42:52,848 I better go. 613 00:42:57,994 --> 00:43:00,610 Are they saying she's pregnant? 614 00:43:00,754 --> 00:43:02,513 They say, he's willing to pay for the abortion. 615 00:43:02,514 --> 00:43:04,793 Shut up, keep your voice down, please! 616 00:43:04,794 --> 00:43:08,832 If Paula's willing to go through with it, anything to keep it quiet. 617 00:43:08,833 --> 00:43:10,527 Here. 618 00:43:13,633 --> 00:43:16,712 There's not gonna be an abortion, because she's not pregnant. 619 00:43:16,713 --> 00:43:18,112 He didn't even know about it. 620 00:43:18,113 --> 00:43:21,085 The thing is, Sylvia is the one saying it. 621 00:43:21,313 --> 00:43:25,931 That girl's been nothing but trouble since she came into my house. 622 00:43:26,193 --> 00:43:29,844 If anybody is pregnant, she is, I bet she is. 623 00:43:33,553 --> 00:43:35,327 I'll take off. 624 00:43:36,033 --> 00:43:37,522 Bye, Kenny. 625 00:43:37,873 --> 00:43:39,692 Bye. 626 00:43:41,793 --> 00:43:45,192 -He'll be back, baby. -Hey! 627 00:43:47,792 --> 00:43:51,625 Coming over to hang out with the grown-ups? 628 00:43:56,752 --> 00:43:59,243 I've got some advice for you. 629 00:43:59,432 --> 00:44:02,111 I wouldn't come between Gertie and her kids... 630 00:44:02,112 --> 00:44:04,111 ...she won't like it much. 631 00:44:04,112 --> 00:44:05,647 Alright? 632 00:44:11,632 --> 00:44:13,821 You okay, Gertie? 633 00:44:14,912 --> 00:44:17,243 Yeah, I'm fine. 634 00:44:18,992 --> 00:44:22,722 A bunch of us, gonna cruise the circle, you wanna come with? 635 00:44:23,591 --> 00:44:27,083 Sure, I probably should ask Gertie first. 636 00:44:27,671 --> 00:44:29,570 You sure? 637 00:44:30,911 --> 00:44:33,702 Come on, let's get outta here! 638 00:44:39,231 --> 00:44:41,750 Looks like Sylvia's going off with them boys. 639 00:44:41,751 --> 00:44:44,550 You sound surprised, Ricky Hobbs. 640 00:44:44,551 --> 00:44:47,582 You shouldn't be. 641 00:44:48,391 --> 00:44:50,483 Let me do it again. 642 00:44:52,951 --> 00:44:55,328 You can beat her now. 643 00:44:58,711 --> 00:45:02,119 You sure you can't come, to the Drive-in with us? 644 00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:06,488 No, I'm, I'm late as it is. 645 00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:08,405 Come on! 646 00:45:11,710 --> 00:45:15,085 Well, I guess, I'll see you next Sunday then. 647 00:45:27,070 --> 00:45:29,128 Shut that door. 648 00:45:41,069 --> 00:45:45,027 I thought, I taught you a lesson. 649 00:45:48,629 --> 00:45:51,268 I don't understand. 650 00:45:51,269 --> 00:45:56,628 Apparently, you've been telling more lies about my daughter. 651 00:45:57,909 --> 00:46:00,827 I haven't told any lies. 652 00:46:04,549 --> 00:46:07,717 - And then you flirt with, Andy. - I didn't. 653 00:46:07,749 --> 00:46:10,160 I saw you! 654 00:46:14,948 --> 00:46:20,624 It doesn't matter what you want, you just, you just go take it. 655 00:46:20,948 --> 00:46:25,484 No, Gertie, we were just talking. 656 00:46:26,348 --> 00:46:28,486 That's all. 657 00:46:33,748 --> 00:46:37,027 -Who's in charge here? -You're mama. 658 00:46:37,062 --> 00:46:39,601 That's right, Baby. 659 00:46:48,148 --> 00:46:51,958 Paula, told me about those boys in California. 660 00:46:52,347 --> 00:46:56,817 Ricky, did Sylvia tell you, about all those boys in California? 661 00:46:57,867 --> 00:46:59,846 No. 662 00:47:01,427 --> 00:47:05,399 Well, if you won't listen, maybe I can get through to your sister. 663 00:47:05,427 --> 00:47:08,626 Keep her from making your mistakes. 664 00:47:08,627 --> 00:47:10,182 Jennie... 665 00:47:10,187 --> 00:47:12,996 ...do you wanna be like your sister? 666 00:47:15,627 --> 00:47:17,696 No, ma'am. 667 00:47:18,867 --> 00:47:21,005 That's a good girl. 668 00:47:52,826 --> 00:47:55,465 Patty, then what did Mrs. Baniszewski do? 669 00:47:55,466 --> 00:47:59,745 She handed her the bottle and told her to pull up her skirt. 670 00:47:59,806 --> 00:48:01,525 And then? 671 00:48:01,546 --> 00:48:05,843 And then, she said to put it up her. 672 00:48:07,145 --> 00:48:11,860 Did Sylvia say anything, when Mrs. Baniszewski ask her to do this? 673 00:48:11,985 --> 00:48:15,624 All she said was: "I can't!" 674 00:48:15,665 --> 00:48:17,744 What did Mrs. Baniszewski say? 675 00:48:17,745 --> 00:48:18,864 She said: 676 00:48:18,865 --> 00:48:21,024 Come on, you can do better than that! 677 00:48:21,025 --> 00:48:23,263 And what did Sylvia do? 678 00:48:23,305 --> 00:48:26,236 What Gertie told her to. 679 00:48:27,225 --> 00:48:29,397 What the hell is going on? 680 00:48:29,865 --> 00:48:33,584 Somebody, clean up that mess! Sylvia get upstairs. 681 00:48:33,625 --> 00:48:35,558 Coy, get her up there! 682 00:48:39,105 --> 00:48:40,224 Wait! 683 00:48:40,225 --> 00:48:43,224 I will not have her in the same room with my daughter's. 684 00:48:43,225 --> 00:48:44,743 Take her to the basement! 685 00:48:44,744 --> 00:48:46,623 Please, I'm sorry, I'm sorry! 686 00:48:46,624 --> 00:48:50,161 - Open the door! - I'm sorry, Gertie! I'm sorry! 687 00:48:50,584 --> 00:48:52,802 Get her outta here! 688 00:48:52,904 --> 00:48:55,223 No! No! 689 00:48:55,224 --> 00:48:57,999 It's best to stay out of there, I think? 690 00:48:58,424 --> 00:49:02,023 Don't worry, Jennie, Mama's just teaching her. 691 00:49:02,024 --> 00:49:05,755 - She won't go down. - I don't care! Just push her! 692 00:50:01,702 --> 00:50:03,521 Hey, Marie! 693 00:50:34,822 --> 00:50:36,640 Sylvia! 694 00:50:37,522 --> 00:50:39,340 Sylvia. 695 00:50:44,141 --> 00:50:46,438 I'm sorry, Sylvia. 696 00:50:47,861 --> 00:50:49,680 But, I'm scared. 697 00:50:50,581 --> 00:50:55,073 I've tried talking with Gertie but... 698 00:50:57,581 --> 00:51:02,154 She, she said you can have your bible. 699 00:51:05,461 --> 00:51:07,155 Jennie. 700 00:51:07,621 --> 00:51:12,377 Mama wants you upstairs. Family meeting. 701 00:51:13,860 --> 00:51:15,998 I'll do what I can. 702 00:51:17,220 --> 00:51:19,699 She said now. 703 00:51:40,780 --> 00:51:42,739 Stop hitting me! 704 00:51:42,740 --> 00:51:44,468 Give me that! 705 00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:48,255 Johnny, get me my medicine, please. 706 00:51:48,860 --> 00:51:53,129 Oh, this neighbourhood, it's not good for my health. 707 00:51:53,259 --> 00:51:54,938 Maybe we can move. 708 00:51:54,939 --> 00:51:56,938 Where would we move to, Shirley? 709 00:51:56,939 --> 00:52:00,718 -I don't know. -I don't wanna move. 710 00:52:06,219 --> 00:52:09,058 I had a call with your parents today. 711 00:52:09,059 --> 00:52:10,938 Are they coming for us? 712 00:52:10,939 --> 00:52:13,098 Well, they picked up the Florida Labor Day circuit... 713 00:52:13,099 --> 00:52:17,177 ...so, they wont be here for you, until the end of November now. 714 00:52:17,219 --> 00:52:19,618 Their checks are coming in regular but... 715 00:52:19,619 --> 00:52:23,898 ...my ironing slowed down quite a bit. 716 00:52:23,899 --> 00:52:27,298 So, we're all gonna have to work together, as a family. 717 00:52:27,299 --> 00:52:31,057 Maybe, I can eat over at Coy's house mama, if that'll help. 718 00:52:31,098 --> 00:52:33,857 -Coy? -Mama, wont mind. 719 00:52:33,858 --> 00:52:35,777 She likes Stephanie a lot. 720 00:52:35,778 --> 00:52:37,597 Thank you. 721 00:52:39,778 --> 00:52:41,677 Paula... 722 00:52:42,258 --> 00:52:45,497 ...baby, you gonna have to take up more shifts at work. 723 00:52:45,498 --> 00:52:48,529 Maybe quit Tech for a while. 724 00:52:49,338 --> 00:52:51,794 What about Stephanie? 725 00:52:51,858 --> 00:52:54,737 - Why she have to go to school? - Because she's smarter than you. 726 00:52:54,738 --> 00:52:57,057 - Shut up, Johnny! - I'm smarter than you! 727 00:52:57,058 --> 00:52:58,977 - I'm smarter than the both of you! - Give me my Teddy! 728 00:52:58,978 --> 00:53:00,097 Stop it! 729 00:53:00,098 --> 00:53:01,377 Stop it! 730 00:53:01,378 --> 00:53:03,311 You all, stop it! 731 00:53:05,777 --> 00:53:08,536 That's another thing we have to work on around here. 732 00:53:08,537 --> 00:53:11,756 We all have to learn to get along better. 733 00:53:12,697 --> 00:53:16,951 How long untill Sylvia, is down in the basement? 734 00:53:19,217 --> 00:53:22,231 Until she learns her lesson. 735 00:53:24,497 --> 00:53:26,032 Mama? 736 00:53:28,537 --> 00:53:31,648 She needs to be punished, Paula. 737 00:53:33,897 --> 00:53:35,671 Yes, mama. 738 00:53:38,017 --> 00:53:40,553 Now, if anybody asks... 739 00:53:41,097 --> 00:53:45,391 ...Sylvia had to go to juvenile. 740 00:53:49,776 --> 00:53:51,709 You got that, Jennie? 741 00:53:58,256 --> 00:54:00,489 Okay. 742 00:54:00,936 --> 00:54:03,110 That's it. 743 00:54:27,575 --> 00:54:29,588 Are you sleeping? 744 00:54:35,535 --> 00:54:37,548 You okay? 745 00:54:40,775 --> 00:54:42,708 Yes. 746 00:54:44,095 --> 00:54:46,665 It's only gonna be for a little while. 747 00:54:57,774 --> 00:55:01,313 Did you ever hear or see, Sylvia, talk back to any of those people... 748 00:55:01,314 --> 00:55:02,973 ...when these things were being done to her? 749 00:55:02,974 --> 00:55:04,493 No, I never. 750 00:55:04,494 --> 00:55:07,453 When it first started did she say anything then? 751 00:55:07,454 --> 00:55:11,273 No, except she would say, I'm sorry, or something like that... 752 00:55:11,274 --> 00:55:13,707 ...as if she did something wrong but... 753 00:55:13,894 --> 00:55:16,510 ...she never did anything wrong. 754 00:55:16,934 --> 00:55:21,586 Did you yourself, on any of these occasions, do anything to Sylvia? 755 00:55:21,734 --> 00:55:24,190 I just did what I was told. 756 00:55:27,134 --> 00:55:29,433 Now then, during the month of September did you see anyone else... 757 00:55:29,434 --> 00:55:31,587 ...do anything to Sylvia? 758 00:56:12,572 --> 00:56:14,869 See, I told you so. 759 00:56:18,532 --> 00:56:19,731 Damn. 760 00:56:19,732 --> 00:56:20,891 What'd she do? 761 00:56:20,892 --> 00:56:22,011 She was real bad. 762 00:56:22,012 --> 00:56:23,131 She's dirty. 763 00:56:23,132 --> 00:56:24,985 Mama said, she was a slut. 764 00:56:27,852 --> 00:56:28,971 Johnny! 765 00:56:28,972 --> 00:56:30,171 Don't worry about it. 766 00:56:30,172 --> 00:56:32,185 She's used to it. 767 00:56:33,452 --> 00:56:35,351 Watch this! 768 00:56:41,732 --> 00:56:42,851 Neat, huh? 769 00:56:42,852 --> 00:56:44,331 You just burn her like that? 770 00:56:44,332 --> 00:56:46,091 Yeah, you can too. 771 00:56:46,092 --> 00:56:47,691 - I don't want to. - What? You're chicken?. 772 00:56:47,692 --> 00:56:48,811 It's OK. 773 00:56:48,812 --> 00:56:51,029 Mama, said you can. 774 00:57:19,131 --> 00:57:23,370 Did you see Sally, take cigarettes, and actually burn Sylvia with them? 775 00:57:23,371 --> 00:57:25,570 - Yes. - How many times? 776 00:57:25,571 --> 00:57:27,901 She would do it everytime she came over. 777 00:57:28,890 --> 00:57:30,729 How many times did it happen? 778 00:57:30,730 --> 00:57:32,458 Every day. 779 00:57:32,530 --> 00:57:35,289 Did you go to 3850 East New York St... 780 00:57:35,290 --> 00:57:37,409 during the months of September and October? 781 00:57:37,410 --> 00:57:38,889 Yes, Sir. 782 00:57:38,890 --> 00:57:40,769 We go most days after school. 783 00:57:40,770 --> 00:57:43,929 And did you see Sylvia Likens, in the basement of that house? 784 00:57:43,930 --> 00:57:45,369 Yes, Sir. 785 00:57:45,370 --> 00:57:47,369 Did you do anything at all to help her? 786 00:57:47,370 --> 00:57:48,529 No, Sir. 787 00:57:48,530 --> 00:57:51,339 What were the other children be doing around the house? 788 00:57:51,730 --> 00:57:53,185 Playing around. 789 00:57:53,410 --> 00:57:55,549 Did you ever tell some of the other kids that they should come over... 790 00:57:55,550 --> 00:57:58,449 ...to the house, because everyone was having fun with Sylvia? 791 00:57:58,450 --> 00:58:00,809 I just thought, we were punishing her. 792 00:58:00,810 --> 00:58:04,427 Where was John standing, when he was washing her down. 793 00:58:04,449 --> 00:58:05,568 Right in front of her. 794 00:58:05,569 --> 00:58:07,448 What part of her body was he spraying? 795 00:58:07,449 --> 00:58:09,648 - All over. - Who's hose was he using? 796 00:58:09,649 --> 00:58:11,408 It was my hose, Sir. 797 00:58:11,409 --> 00:58:14,648 Sally, did you ever see some of the other neighborhood kids, hurt Sylvia? 798 00:58:14,649 --> 00:58:16,104 Yes. 799 00:58:17,049 --> 00:58:20,063 Did you tell anybody, you saw this thing? 800 00:58:20,569 --> 00:58:22,627 Not really. 801 00:58:23,409 --> 00:58:27,458 You told no one, what was happening at the Baniszewski's house? 802 00:58:28,209 --> 00:58:29,808 Well, I told my father... 803 00:58:29,809 --> 00:58:32,768 ...Gertrude gave Sylvia, an awful whipping. 804 00:58:32,769 --> 00:58:35,208 But he just told me, I shouldn't do whatever she did... 805 00:58:35,209 --> 00:58:37,779 ...or I get the same. 806 00:58:38,729 --> 00:58:40,448 Shirley, was your mother ever present... 807 00:58:40,449 --> 00:58:42,887 ...while some of the other people were doing these things, to Sylvia? 808 00:58:42,888 --> 00:58:44,567 Yes, she was. 809 00:58:44,568 --> 00:58:46,467 How many times? 810 00:58:47,088 --> 00:58:49,327 She was around about all the time. 811 00:58:49,328 --> 00:58:53,377 And what did she say when these people were doing things, to Sylvia? 812 00:58:54,208 --> 00:58:55,663 Nothing. 813 00:59:01,728 --> 00:59:04,617 Did anyone order you to hit Sylvia? 814 00:59:05,048 --> 00:59:06,567 No, Sir. 815 00:59:06,568 --> 00:59:09,167 - Or, tie her up? - No, Sir. 816 00:59:09,168 --> 00:59:10,967 - Or, wash her down? - No, Sir. 817 00:59:10,968 --> 00:59:12,947 Then, why did you do it, Teddy? 818 00:59:13,648 --> 00:59:15,342 I don't know, Sir. 819 00:59:15,528 --> 00:59:17,427 I don't know, Sir. 820 00:59:17,648 --> 00:59:19,626 I don't know, Sir. 821 00:59:26,887 --> 00:59:28,726 You two, go upstairs. 822 00:59:28,727 --> 00:59:30,421 Yes, mama. 823 01:00:00,646 --> 01:00:02,545 Who is it? 824 01:00:04,446 --> 01:00:06,459 You got any cigarettes? 825 01:00:24,446 --> 01:00:27,096 Hear anything from Sylvia? 826 01:00:29,206 --> 01:00:31,662 You really like her, don't you? 827 01:00:32,526 --> 01:00:35,300 She's not good for you, Honey. 828 01:00:37,405 --> 01:00:39,861 You know, when she's gonna be back? 829 01:00:41,525 --> 01:00:46,416 Ricky, I told you, she wont have anything to do with you. 830 01:00:46,765 --> 01:00:49,574 She's to busy with other boys. 831 01:00:50,405 --> 01:00:53,465 That's why I had to send her to juve. 832 01:00:54,685 --> 01:00:56,220 Hand me that! 833 01:00:59,685 --> 01:01:01,538 - Get! - Alright, I'll go. 834 01:01:07,485 --> 01:01:09,020 Here's your money. 835 01:01:09,285 --> 01:01:11,164 Thank you, baby. 836 01:01:11,165 --> 01:01:12,619 Paula... 837 01:01:14,044 --> 01:01:18,332 Honey! You are a good daughter, I'm so proud of you. 838 01:01:19,124 --> 01:01:23,458 It don't matter what people say, you'd be holdin' your head up high. 839 01:01:24,484 --> 01:01:26,781 We're gettin' through this. 840 01:01:28,084 --> 01:01:30,495 What about Sylvia? 841 01:01:34,484 --> 01:01:36,383 Mama... 842 01:01:36,644 --> 01:01:38,896 ...I've been praying... 843 01:01:39,884 --> 01:01:41,923 ...and I think, maybe it's time to forgive her. 844 01:01:41,924 --> 01:01:44,619 I think, she's learned her lesson. 845 01:01:44,764 --> 01:01:48,003 Their are things in life, we have to do... 846 01:01:48,004 --> 01:01:50,380 ...whate'er we like it or not. 847 01:01:51,683 --> 01:01:54,777 Well, I don't want any part of it. 848 01:01:56,203 --> 01:01:57,931 Paula. 849 01:01:59,363 --> 01:02:01,282 Paula? 850 01:02:01,283 --> 01:02:04,377 Come down here and talk to me! 851 01:02:27,682 --> 01:02:30,980 Hey, Sylvia? I'm not gonna hurt you, okay? 852 01:02:31,002 --> 01:02:33,413 I'm not gonna hurt you. 853 01:02:47,082 --> 01:02:50,540 I know what it's like to be sick, Sylvia. 854 01:03:02,442 --> 01:03:05,501 I've been sick for so long, too. 855 01:03:07,561 --> 01:03:09,813 I can't... 856 01:03:09,921 --> 01:03:13,572 ...discipline my kids, the way that I should. 857 01:03:16,761 --> 01:03:19,934 I'm punishing, I know but... 858 01:03:20,041 --> 01:03:21,920 ...sometimes, when I take medicine... 859 01:03:21,921 --> 01:03:24,855 ...it's like, if I don't know what I'm doing. 860 01:03:30,761 --> 01:03:33,775 And I care for them so much. 861 01:03:40,521 --> 01:03:43,056 With Paula, the thing is... 862 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,375 ...Paula is a lot like me. 863 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,575 I had her, when I was just about your age. 864 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,051 And then along came, Stephanie... 865 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,490 ...and then all the others. 866 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,099 And... 867 01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:14,049 ...then John left. 868 01:04:21,439 --> 01:04:24,134 And here I am, just uh... 869 01:04:26,759 --> 01:04:30,410 ...doing everything I can, to keep my Family together. 870 01:04:31,879 --> 01:04:35,018 I want something better for Paula. 871 01:04:39,559 --> 01:04:42,254 There has to be something better. 872 01:04:54,399 --> 01:04:57,935 And I need to protect my children. 873 01:05:00,958 --> 01:05:03,688 Do you understand that? 874 01:05:04,278 --> 01:05:06,370 These kids... 875 01:05:06,998 --> 01:05:09,409 ...they're all I've got. 876 01:05:27,918 --> 01:05:29,771 Thank you, Sylvia. 877 01:05:33,477 --> 01:05:34,996 Thank you. 878 01:05:34,997 --> 01:05:37,876 Thank you, for understanding me, okay? 879 01:05:37,877 --> 01:05:39,356 Thank you. 880 01:05:51,237 --> 01:05:52,337 Oh, lord. 881 01:05:52,837 --> 01:05:54,565 Okay. 882 01:05:58,517 --> 01:06:00,450 Hello, Reverend. 883 01:06:04,117 --> 01:06:05,596 I've been meaning to come by and visit but... 884 01:06:05,597 --> 01:06:07,956 ...when Paula came to the church and talk to me... 885 01:06:07,957 --> 01:06:09,756 ...it just pushed me a little. 886 01:06:09,757 --> 01:06:13,089 Now, what's that girl been bothering you with? 887 01:06:15,396 --> 01:06:19,115 Well, she's concerned about you and the whole house. 888 01:06:19,116 --> 01:06:23,075 And, uh, there's something else. 889 01:06:23,276 --> 01:06:25,892 I think, Paula may be pregnant. 890 01:06:26,036 --> 01:06:29,015 Now, I'm prepared to offer what support I can... 891 01:06:29,016 --> 01:06:30,995 ...but I can't speak for the entire congregation. 892 01:06:30,996 --> 01:06:32,595 Reverend, I'm sorry, thank you... 893 01:06:32,596 --> 01:06:36,755 ...but it's a vicious lie and rumor... 894 01:06:36,756 --> 01:06:38,675 ...spread by that Likens' girl. 895 01:06:38,676 --> 01:06:39,795 Gertrude... 896 01:06:39,796 --> 01:06:41,635 ...Paula, talked to me herself. 897 01:06:41,636 --> 01:06:43,035 Well, Reverend, I don't understand that. 898 01:06:43,036 --> 01:06:44,795 I'll try to get to the bottom of that with Paula... 899 01:06:44,796 --> 01:06:48,274 ...but Sylvia has been a very bad influence on her... 900 01:06:48,275 --> 01:06:50,354 ...since she came to my house. 901 01:06:50,355 --> 01:06:52,114 And I have... 902 01:06:52,115 --> 01:06:54,554 ...I just can not discipline that girl. 903 01:06:54,555 --> 01:06:56,954 Well, she did mention, Sylvia is well... 904 01:06:56,955 --> 01:06:59,274 ...but wasn't clear, she said there were some problems... 905 01:06:59,275 --> 01:07:01,714 ...and I haven't seen Sylvia, in church in weeks... 906 01:07:01,715 --> 01:07:04,410 ...so I thought, I just should sit down and talk with her. 907 01:07:04,595 --> 01:07:07,529 I'm afraid, I had to send her to juvenile. 908 01:07:07,755 --> 01:07:11,034 I just could not handle that girl. 909 01:07:11,035 --> 01:07:12,594 I caught her stealing from me. 910 01:07:12,595 --> 01:07:13,994 Have you spoken with her parents about this? 911 01:07:13,995 --> 01:07:16,354 I tried, I wrote them, I've called... 912 01:07:16,355 --> 01:07:18,674 ...I haven't got response. 913 01:07:18,675 --> 01:07:20,314 Honestly, now I can understand... 914 01:07:20,315 --> 01:07:22,354 ...why they just dropped her with me. 915 01:07:22,355 --> 01:07:23,674 I see. 916 01:07:23,675 --> 01:07:25,273 I just can go by the juvenile center... 917 01:07:25,274 --> 01:07:27,353 ...and speak to Sylvia myself. 918 01:07:27,354 --> 01:07:29,233 I'll try to arrange that. 919 01:07:29,234 --> 01:07:31,353 - Hi, uncle Bill. - Hello, Reverend. 920 01:07:31,354 --> 01:07:33,253 Hey, kids. 921 01:07:33,314 --> 01:07:36,113 Why don't you take little Kenny, please? 922 01:07:36,114 --> 01:07:38,393 We can continue this discussion later. 923 01:07:38,394 --> 01:07:40,407 Thank you, Reverend. 924 01:07:45,194 --> 01:07:47,513 I'll see you on Sunday then. 925 01:07:47,514 --> 01:07:50,433 I'm excepting you in my office before the end of the week. 926 01:07:50,434 --> 01:07:52,731 We need to talk about this. 927 01:07:52,954 --> 01:07:54,353 Sure, Reverend. 928 01:07:54,354 --> 01:07:56,207 Okay, Gertrude. 929 01:08:05,313 --> 01:08:07,405 Don't you have any sense? 930 01:08:09,753 --> 01:08:13,165 - I'm doing this for you! - Let go off me! 931 01:08:19,753 --> 01:08:22,528 I want everybody in the basement! 932 01:08:28,113 --> 01:08:29,712 You know why you're here. 933 01:08:29,713 --> 01:08:31,532 Sylvia! 934 01:08:38,913 --> 01:08:41,721 Ricky, she came back. 935 01:08:41,952 --> 01:08:44,511 She came back from juvenile... 936 01:08:44,512 --> 01:08:46,843 ...then she started trouble again. 937 01:08:46,912 --> 01:08:48,367 Stop it! 938 01:08:50,232 --> 01:08:51,591 Johnny, hold her! 939 01:08:51,592 --> 01:08:53,071 No, please! Please! 940 01:08:53,072 --> 01:08:54,551 Hold her still! 941 01:08:54,552 --> 01:08:56,849 Sylvia, if you keep moving, it'll only be messy. 942 01:08:57,592 --> 01:08:59,191 Light that! 943 01:08:59,192 --> 01:09:02,286 No! No! No! 944 01:09:02,287 --> 01:09:04,286 No! No! No! 945 01:09:04,592 --> 01:09:06,923 Please! Please! Please! 946 01:09:06,992 --> 01:09:08,871 - Stop it! - Is this alright, Mama? 947 01:09:08,872 --> 01:09:11,249 Make sure it's hot. 948 01:09:12,512 --> 01:09:14,711 - I'm sorry! I'm sorry! - You Liar! 949 01:09:14,712 --> 01:09:16,845 - No! No! - Hey! 950 01:09:16,952 --> 01:09:19,646 Please no! Please! 951 01:09:21,351 --> 01:09:24,160 You branded my daughter. 952 01:09:25,071 --> 01:09:27,846 Now, I'm gonna brand you. 953 01:09:35,751 --> 01:09:37,479 Ricky! 954 01:09:37,871 --> 01:09:40,441 Come here! Finish it! 955 01:09:42,351 --> 01:09:44,204 Gertie, I can't. 956 01:09:44,511 --> 01:09:49,870 Ricky, she was with every boy but you. 957 01:09:49,871 --> 01:09:52,123 You can't let her get away with this. 958 01:09:54,511 --> 01:09:56,549 Please, help me, Ricky. 959 01:09:56,550 --> 01:09:58,369 Please! Please! 960 01:09:58,510 --> 01:10:00,523 Good boy. 961 01:10:01,510 --> 01:10:03,523 Ricky! 962 01:10:07,190 --> 01:10:08,964 What does it say? 963 01:10:09,470 --> 01:10:12,200 It says: "I'm a Prostitute... 964 01:10:13,070 --> 01:10:14,719 ...and proud of it". 965 01:10:20,030 --> 01:10:22,521 No! No! Stop it! No! 966 01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:38,162 Sylvia. 967 01:10:39,869 --> 01:10:42,166 You've gotta get outta here. 968 01:10:42,589 --> 01:10:44,348 You gotta leave. 969 01:10:44,349 --> 01:10:46,487 You gotta get away from here, come! 970 01:10:53,189 --> 01:10:55,407 Oh, I can't... 971 01:12:00,987 --> 01:12:02,442 Mama? 972 01:12:04,507 --> 01:12:06,626 - You gotta get outta here! - I don't know where to go. 973 01:12:06,627 --> 01:12:08,346 You go find your parents. 974 01:12:08,347 --> 01:12:09,466 And Jennie? 975 01:12:09,467 --> 01:12:11,186 Jennie can take care of herself, don't worry about her. 976 01:12:11,187 --> 01:12:12,642 Paula? 977 01:12:12,947 --> 01:12:14,226 No! No! 978 01:12:14,227 --> 01:12:15,946 Go! Just go! 979 01:12:15,947 --> 01:12:17,675 What're you doing? 980 01:12:17,827 --> 01:12:20,124 - Just let me go! - Mama, stop! 981 01:12:20,127 --> 01:12:22,266 - Stop it! - What's going on? 982 01:12:22,267 --> 01:12:24,519 Let's go in the house. 983 01:12:38,706 --> 01:12:40,321 Sylvia! 984 01:12:40,586 --> 01:12:43,425 Please, please don't hurt me! 985 01:12:43,426 --> 01:12:45,105 No, no, no, no, I'm not gonna hurt. 986 01:12:45,106 --> 01:12:46,985 I swear to God. I promise, I promise. 987 01:12:46,986 --> 01:12:48,185 Look, I'm sorry. 988 01:12:48,186 --> 01:12:50,185 I didn't know, what the hell I was doing, alright? 989 01:12:50,186 --> 01:12:52,265 But, you gotta believe me, please! 990 01:12:52,266 --> 01:12:53,915 Please! 991 01:12:54,546 --> 01:12:55,865 You wanna get outta here? 992 01:12:55,866 --> 01:12:57,825 You wanna go? Let's go. 993 01:12:57,826 --> 01:12:59,145 Come on. 994 01:12:59,146 --> 01:13:01,045 Come on now, you're alright. 995 01:13:05,625 --> 01:13:07,264 Where're we going? 996 01:13:07,265 --> 01:13:09,039 I don't know. 997 01:13:09,545 --> 01:13:12,843 Police? You wanna go to the Police? We can tell'm everything. 998 01:13:12,945 --> 01:13:14,624 I just wanna go to my mom. 999 01:13:14,625 --> 01:13:16,319 Where's your mama? 1000 01:13:16,785 --> 01:13:18,944 I think, she's in Portage. 1001 01:13:18,945 --> 01:13:21,037 We're going to Portage. 1002 01:13:22,505 --> 01:13:23,960 Damn it! 1003 01:13:30,905 --> 01:13:32,914 - Ricky? - Oh my God! 1004 01:13:32,915 --> 01:13:34,714 We're going! We're going! 1005 01:13:57,984 --> 01:13:59,917 I'll come with you. 1006 01:14:00,304 --> 01:14:02,601 No, you gotta get back. 1007 01:14:05,144 --> 01:14:09,159 You gotta get back to Jennie and make sure nothing happens to her. 1008 01:14:11,744 --> 01:14:14,314 I won't let her out of my sight. 1009 01:14:15,504 --> 01:14:17,402 Thank you, Ricky. 1010 01:14:59,742 --> 01:15:01,197 Daddy? 1011 01:15:03,022 --> 01:15:04,796 Cookie? 1012 01:15:05,022 --> 01:15:06,421 What're you doing here? 1013 01:15:06,422 --> 01:15:08,071 Dad! 1014 01:15:08,462 --> 01:15:11,396 Oh, my... What happened to you? 1015 01:15:20,422 --> 01:15:22,401 Oh, my God. 1016 01:15:23,422 --> 01:15:25,355 Oh, my God. 1017 01:15:29,542 --> 01:15:31,554 They did this to you? 1018 01:15:35,021 --> 01:15:37,557 I'm so, so sorry. 1019 01:15:37,941 --> 01:15:40,420 I'm just so sorry, I left you there. 1020 01:15:40,421 --> 01:15:42,020 We spoke to Jennie, on the phone last week. 1021 01:15:42,021 --> 01:15:43,620 She said everything was fine. 1022 01:15:43,621 --> 01:15:46,032 She's scared of her. 1023 01:15:46,261 --> 01:15:48,160 We gotta go back. 1024 01:15:50,741 --> 01:15:53,038 Let's just talk in the car. 1025 01:15:53,181 --> 01:15:56,195 Everything�s gonna be taken care of, Cookie. 1026 01:15:56,341 --> 01:15:58,513 You're with your family now. 1027 01:15:58,901 --> 01:16:02,598 Oh, Honey. Mama's here now. 1028 01:16:08,101 --> 01:16:11,398 Hey, Honey! We're here. 1029 01:16:24,620 --> 01:16:26,539 You stay here, Cookie. 1030 01:16:26,540 --> 01:16:28,473 No, uh... 1031 01:16:30,260 --> 01:16:32,796 ...I gotta do this. 1032 01:16:34,620 --> 01:16:36,872 I'm just gonna go in. 1033 01:17:07,099 --> 01:17:09,538 She's not breathing, mama. 1034 01:17:09,539 --> 01:17:12,458 She'll wake up, okay? Don't worry. 1035 01:17:12,459 --> 01:17:14,438 Wake up, please! 1036 01:17:14,579 --> 01:17:15,858 Stephanie? 1037 01:17:15,859 --> 01:17:18,218 - She's not breathing! - She's faking it. 1038 01:17:18,219 --> 01:17:20,858 Somebody, please do something! Because she's not breathing! 1039 01:17:20,859 --> 01:17:23,337 - She's faking it. - Johnny, where's that water? 1040 01:17:23,338 --> 01:17:25,817 - Bring me some water, baby. - Give me! 1041 01:17:25,818 --> 01:17:27,017 She okay? 1042 01:17:27,018 --> 01:17:28,697 Please, somebody, she's not breathing! 1043 01:17:28,698 --> 01:17:31,417 Liar, liar, liar, liar... 1044 01:17:31,418 --> 01:17:33,297 Mama, she's not faking it! 1045 01:17:33,298 --> 01:17:36,177 She came to my house and just told lies. 1046 01:17:36,178 --> 01:17:38,097 Stephanie, what's wrong? 1047 01:17:38,098 --> 01:17:39,857 Mama, we gotta do something! 1048 01:17:39,858 --> 01:17:42,713 Sweetie, she's... 1049 01:17:43,338 --> 01:17:45,537 Please, Sylvia, please breath. 1050 01:17:45,538 --> 01:17:47,517 Sylvia? 1051 01:17:52,098 --> 01:17:54,417 Shirley, she'll be okay, she'll be okay. 1052 01:17:54,418 --> 01:17:56,817 Somebody's gotta do something! She's not breathing! 1053 01:17:56,818 --> 01:17:59,957 Shut up, Stephanie! She's lyin'! 1054 01:18:00,258 --> 01:18:02,256 She just lays there. 1055 01:18:02,257 --> 01:18:03,496 Oh, my god. 1056 01:18:03,497 --> 01:18:05,350 Ricky, do something! 1057 01:18:05,697 --> 01:18:07,312 Look out! 1058 01:18:07,617 --> 01:18:09,496 Here, try this. 1059 01:18:09,497 --> 01:18:11,136 Sylvia! Wake up! 1060 01:18:11,137 --> 01:18:12,496 - Come on, breath! - Paula... 1061 01:18:12,497 --> 01:18:15,456 ...you go get Andy, baby, he'll know what to do, okay? 1062 01:18:15,457 --> 01:18:17,096 Wake up, Sylvia! 1063 01:18:17,097 --> 01:18:19,016 She'll be okay, she's just faking it. 1064 01:18:19,017 --> 01:18:20,576 Please, Sylvia, breath. 1065 01:18:20,577 --> 01:18:22,056 She's cold. 1066 01:18:22,057 --> 01:18:23,696 Somebody better call the police! 1067 01:18:23,697 --> 01:18:25,536 Don't call the police. 1068 01:18:25,537 --> 01:18:27,311 Just go! 1069 01:18:28,297 --> 01:18:30,496 She's not dying! 1070 01:18:30,497 --> 01:18:32,256 Give me more water, colder this time! 1071 01:18:32,257 --> 01:18:34,873 Babies', come here... 1072 01:18:37,097 --> 01:18:39,255 She's lying, baby, she's just... 1073 01:18:39,256 --> 01:18:41,826 Mama, she's not faking it! 1074 01:18:50,536 --> 01:18:51,975 I need the police! 1075 01:18:51,976 --> 01:18:54,546 Yeah, there maybe a death girl in a house. 1076 01:19:02,336 --> 01:19:03,905 She's dead. 1077 01:19:04,136 --> 01:19:06,035 Jesus Christ, Gertie. 1078 01:19:15,056 --> 01:19:16,734 What's the problem? 1079 01:19:16,735 --> 01:19:19,669 Get me out of here, I'll tell you everything. 1080 01:19:24,295 --> 01:19:26,534 Jennie, did you ever see... 1081 01:19:26,535 --> 01:19:29,674 ...Sylvia do anything, to Mrs. Baniszewski? 1082 01:19:31,135 --> 01:19:34,388 No, I didn't see anything. 1083 01:19:34,935 --> 01:19:37,854 Did you ever see her do anything, to Paula? 1084 01:19:37,855 --> 01:19:39,708 No. 1085 01:19:40,295 --> 01:19:43,334 Did you ever see her do anything, to Johnny Baniszewski? 1086 01:19:43,335 --> 01:19:45,154 No. 1087 01:19:47,695 --> 01:19:52,905 Jennie, you saw your sister being hit... 1088 01:19:53,494 --> 01:19:55,493 ...beaten, struck. 1089 01:19:55,494 --> 01:19:58,462 Why did you not call the police? 1090 01:19:58,574 --> 01:20:02,613 Well, uh, Gertie threatened me, that if I told anybody... 1091 01:20:02,614 --> 01:20:05,184 ...I'd get the same treatment, Sylvia was getting. 1092 01:20:05,974 --> 01:20:08,988 You could have told anyone, up and down on the street. 1093 01:20:09,454 --> 01:20:13,708 I was scared and I guess, I just... 1094 01:20:13,934 --> 01:20:17,824 ...did what she told me to do. I wish, I hadn't. 1095 01:20:22,414 --> 01:20:24,825 Did you ever see Sylvia cry? 1096 01:20:31,333 --> 01:20:34,012 They said, she didn't have any feelings... 1097 01:20:34,013 --> 01:20:36,663 ...but I knew better. 1098 01:20:38,253 --> 01:20:41,586 I've seen her cry before. 1099 01:20:42,373 --> 01:20:46,652 I imagine, the reason that she didn't cry was... 1100 01:20:46,653 --> 01:20:49,906 ...she didn't have enough water. 1101 01:20:52,053 --> 01:20:55,021 The trial lasted 24 days. 1102 01:20:55,093 --> 01:20:58,172 Gertrude was the last one to take the stand. 1103 01:20:58,173 --> 01:21:03,588 What was your physical condition in July and August of last year? 1104 01:21:05,893 --> 01:21:08,428 Pretty run down, physically. 1105 01:21:08,972 --> 01:21:11,371 Pretty upset, mentally and emotionally. 1106 01:21:11,372 --> 01:21:13,385 What do you mean? 1107 01:21:14,372 --> 01:21:18,024 If you have as many children... 1108 01:21:18,212 --> 01:21:22,531 ...around your home, all the time, as I did... 1109 01:21:22,532 --> 01:21:24,691 ...arguing and carrying on... 1110 01:21:24,692 --> 01:21:27,971 ...you'd be pretty upset, mentally and emotionally too. 1111 01:21:27,972 --> 01:21:30,131 What medicine did you take? 1112 01:21:30,132 --> 01:21:33,771 Phenobarbital Sulfate, and Coricidin. 1113 01:21:33,772 --> 01:21:36,611 I was trying to take care of myself... 1114 01:21:36,612 --> 01:21:39,672 ...because I could not afford to go to a doctor. 1115 01:21:39,892 --> 01:21:44,091 Well, then, getting to the 1st week of September... 1116 01:21:44,092 --> 01:21:47,090 ...was there any change in your physical condition... 1117 01:21:47,091 --> 01:21:49,422 ...or in the condition of that house? 1118 01:21:52,731 --> 01:21:54,584 No, Sir. 1119 01:21:54,811 --> 01:21:56,490 What about the 3rd. week of September... 1120 01:21:56,491 --> 01:21:57,930 ...do you remember that? 1121 01:21:57,931 --> 01:22:00,850 You mean anything specific that might happened in September? 1122 01:22:00,851 --> 01:22:03,090 Yes, anything specific. 1123 01:22:03,091 --> 01:22:04,970 The kids were fighting a lot. 1124 01:22:04,971 --> 01:22:07,541 The kids were fighting a lot? 1125 01:22:07,931 --> 01:22:10,730 My children and the neighbor children... 1126 01:22:10,731 --> 01:22:13,330 ...were coming in, and fighting Sylvia. 1127 01:22:13,331 --> 01:22:17,810 My children fighting with other children, so on and so fort. 1128 01:22:17,811 --> 01:22:20,347 What did you do, when that was happening? 1129 01:22:22,011 --> 01:22:25,024 I did not see this fighting then. 1130 01:22:25,210 --> 01:22:28,289 I was barely able to stay up at all. 1131 01:22:28,290 --> 01:22:31,668 I did not even feel like getting up. 1132 01:22:32,290 --> 01:22:35,109 Did you have any knowledge, of any mistreatment... 1133 01:22:35,110 --> 01:22:37,028 ...going on with Sylvia? 1134 01:22:38,570 --> 01:22:40,649 No, Sir. 1135 01:22:40,650 --> 01:22:45,541 Did you commit any indignity, making marks on that girls body? 1136 01:22:46,290 --> 01:22:48,409 No, Sir. 1137 01:22:48,410 --> 01:22:51,105 Do you know, how those wounds got on her body? 1138 01:22:51,130 --> 01:22:52,729 No, Sir. 1139 01:22:52,730 --> 01:22:55,869 You're telling the Jury, you don't know who did it? 1140 01:22:57,650 --> 01:22:59,822 No. 1141 01:23:01,449 --> 01:23:03,860 Did you hear the testimony of Jennie? 1142 01:23:04,289 --> 01:23:05,928 Yes, I did. 1143 01:23:05,929 --> 01:23:08,328 Did you hear, some of your children state... 1144 01:23:08,329 --> 01:23:12,105 ...that before Sylvia died, you started branding this girl? 1145 01:23:14,209 --> 01:23:15,903 Yes, I heard that. 1146 01:23:16,009 --> 01:23:17,828 Did they all lie? 1147 01:23:24,329 --> 01:23:26,488 That is right. 1148 01:23:26,489 --> 01:23:29,628 The fact is you're lying, isn't it? 1149 01:23:30,129 --> 01:23:32,381 No, Sir. 1150 01:23:34,969 --> 01:23:37,367 Did you hear John Baniszewski state... 1151 01:23:37,368 --> 01:23:41,543 ...that you burned her, with matches and cigarettes? 1152 01:23:43,088 --> 01:23:45,087 Yes, I heard that statement. 1153 01:23:45,088 --> 01:23:47,465 Did he tell the truth? 1154 01:23:51,728 --> 01:23:54,367 He was not telling the truth. 1155 01:23:54,368 --> 01:23:56,426 No. 1156 01:23:58,288 --> 01:24:01,018 You're saying, you did not do it? 1157 01:24:01,928 --> 01:24:03,287 That's right. 1158 01:24:03,288 --> 01:24:04,927 You were in bed, a great deal of the time... 1159 01:24:04,928 --> 01:24:07,727 ...when the children were doing things, you did not know, they were doing. 1160 01:24:07,728 --> 01:24:10,287 I imagine they were doing a great deal of things... 1161 01:24:10,288 --> 01:24:11,607 ...that I did not know. 1162 01:24:11,608 --> 01:24:13,746 Why did Johnny lie? 1163 01:24:15,527 --> 01:24:18,566 I imagine, he is a pretty scared little boy. 1164 01:24:18,567 --> 01:24:20,295 Are you scared? 1165 01:24:22,367 --> 01:24:26,416 I've been scared by a lot of things, for a long time. 1166 01:24:27,207 --> 01:24:30,606 She sacrificed me, to protect her children... 1167 01:24:30,607 --> 01:24:34,065 ...and sacrificed them, to protect herself. 1168 01:24:55,126 --> 01:24:57,378 Will the defendant please rise! 1169 01:25:09,246 --> 01:25:12,445 We, the Jury, find Gertrude Baniszewski... 1170 01:25:12,446 --> 01:25:14,605 ...guilty of 1st. degree murder... 1171 01:25:14,606 --> 01:25:17,301 ...sentencing her to life in prison. 1172 01:25:26,006 --> 01:25:28,383 The case got a lot of attention. 1173 01:25:29,685 --> 01:25:32,380 It even made Time Magazine. 1174 01:25:37,885 --> 01:25:39,404 And most people started talking... 1175 01:25:39,405 --> 01:25:42,100 ...about things, they used to ignore. 1176 01:25:43,285 --> 01:25:44,484 Thank you. 1177 01:25:44,485 --> 01:25:46,764 The others, were tried later. 1178 01:25:46,765 --> 01:25:48,724 Paula was found guilty as an accomplice... 1179 01:25:48,725 --> 01:25:50,804 ...and served a couple of years. 1180 01:25:50,805 --> 01:25:54,297 She had that Baby, and named it, Gertrude. 1181 01:25:54,485 --> 01:25:56,764 Johnny was convicted too. 1182 01:25:56,765 --> 01:25:58,204 He became the youngest inmate... 1183 01:25:58,205 --> 01:26:01,284 ...in the history, of the Indiana State Reformatory. 1184 01:26:01,285 --> 01:26:03,684 He would later become a real Minister.. 1185 01:26:03,685 --> 01:26:05,777 ...one way of telling the story, I guess. 1186 01:26:06,125 --> 01:26:08,523 Ricky Hobbs, was found guilty of man-slaughter... 1187 01:26:08,524 --> 01:26:11,643 ...he served time at the reformatory. 1188 01:26:11,644 --> 01:26:15,739 He died at age 21, of lung cancer. 1189 01:26:16,644 --> 01:26:19,339 Coy, also served a couple of years. 1190 01:26:19,484 --> 01:26:21,243 He went on with a life of crime... 1191 01:26:21,244 --> 01:26:23,780 ...after he got released from prison. 1192 01:26:24,124 --> 01:26:27,457 I don't know, what happened, to any of the rest of them. 1193 01:26:28,204 --> 01:26:30,083 Mom und Dad, went back on Tour... 1194 01:26:30,084 --> 01:26:33,443 ...and left Jennie, with the District Attorney and his Family. 1195 01:26:33,444 --> 01:26:35,900 They helped her get back on her feet. 1196 01:26:38,724 --> 01:26:42,003 Gertrude served 20 years of her life sentence. 1197 01:26:42,004 --> 01:26:45,620 She was released on parole in 1985. 1198 01:26:46,363 --> 01:26:49,402 Before she died, five years later... 1199 01:26:49,403 --> 01:26:53,100 ...she took responsibility, for everything that had happened. 1200 01:27:06,683 --> 01:27:08,855 I'm so sorry. 1201 01:27:19,123 --> 01:27:20,976 And me. 1202 01:27:22,482 --> 01:27:25,337 I returned to the carnival. 1203 01:27:25,762 --> 01:27:28,730 The only place, I always felt save. 1204 01:27:31,562 --> 01:27:34,041 Reverend Bill, used to say: 1205 01:27:34,042 --> 01:27:37,773 "For every situation, God always has a plan". 1206 01:27:39,962 --> 01:27:44,250 I guess, I'm still trying to figure out, what that plan was.86324