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This is a story that everybody has heard before.

An older boy.

The loner type from the wrong side of the tracks.

Makes a younger girl.

He's the type of guy as she's been warned about.

But she lets him get just close enough.

That they get stuck together.

It's first love.

And forbidden love.

But sometimes when two people makes.

The alchemy as a right.

There's a reaction.

An explosion.

So their story is told over and over.

And it's made pretty much or ugly.

Evil or tragic.

But it's never true.

Because the truth this far too complicated.

And so whatever is on a screen will be the truth.

Reporter were being a german adnan leg of.

I.

Am bound and.

Gag on her mouth.

It was the first of it's kind of these rebels lot of

cause killing people for no reason.

You could feel the fear just on the tv itself.

Charlie stork weather for himself as james dean.

I think crew.

Kara always wanted to be somebody.

She went on to be a star.

I got oh wow bashir hard like a broad.

I see really a scared little girl.

The only two people who witnessed what went on or

charles start with her and carol female and

everybody else.

Don't you own w t six new split teenager who many

believe help charles stark weather.

During his nebraska killing spree in the nineteen

fifties asks the state for apart and today the

seventy six year old asked for a pardon.

An urgent that these killing spree that shook the

city of lincoln at the time was read visited today as

kill and few gate hero and few games paralyze you go

asked for a pardon for her role in the crimes now sixty

years ago.

Few get a company in her boyfriend.

Charlie stark whether a one of the nation's most

notorious killing sprees.

Few gates said that she was a fast it was not and a club

was restored.

Weather learn know that i'm and frontline it.

And people and barking.

There's been books movies songs.

All towards his case we can come in and alleviate the

burn that she feels for.

This goes curfew gate vowing to clear her name for

sixty years with nobody really knowing who role on

the crimes.

December first nineteen fifty seven our bodies

found along the side of the highway.

He turns out to be the body of a gas station attendant

and a young man named robert covert.

They first thought that he may be had been hit by a car

or something.

I'll turn out.

He had been shot the body of twenty one year old.

Robert g colbert and attended module service

station on the outskirts of my gun was found in the

middle of a lonely a rural road near the city.

It was discovered my of armor and route down shortly

before dawn.

The murderer took mister colbert about and killed

him and left him in a ditch and stole a few dollars.

I think it was like twenty dollars or something as

very little amount of money and that was apparently

the motive was was the money.

Then lankan crimes of all sorts were just very rare.

Any murders were just maybe one a year if that.

It was so out of the normal experience of people ages

couldn't imagine that something like that will

happen here.

Police say the investigation will be continued by a

team and i but at the moment there are no clue to the

killer more killer.

There was a garbage man.

He would hang around that filling station or colbert

worked quite often that was charles stark whether

charles start with charles start by the.

Several be blunt pointed out hey.

There's this guy ground spinning change is the exact

same guy who have been sleeping a lot of nights

outside the station.

Even his own family is going to please and saying you

need to check this out.

You know there are plenty of reasons to be suspicious

of this guy and yet they hadn't even follow up at all.

Charles start whether had a difficult upbringing.

He was a product of the depression one of seven children.

A birth defect that caused him to have bowling's.

And coupled with a speech impediment fiery red hair

and the only five foot five.

It was very very difficult.

Charlie was a garbage man i school dropout and he had

an i q have like seventy.

Here.

All these issues back in nebraska and nineteen fifty eight.

People are paying attention to sociology or

anything like that if they just wrote him off as you

know least she's got a bad egg and that's that.

Lincoln is very peaceful coming into that was

assumed that the killer was not a like and i most

people assumed it was somebody that had come and gone

the intruder and the night or the guy that was passing through.

It were kind of went out of the minds of people and we

went right back to being what somebody called the

soda fountain era.

Papa.

Lincoln a city of about one hundred thousand people.

A friend of mine says lincoln nebraska two degrees of

separation because everybody knows everybody else.

Crime was almost nonexistent.

The police force had one night roman for the entire city.

No one gave any thought to it.

People didn't lock their doors.

People were concerned weren't worried about

different times.

Lot.

There's no question.

Charlie's world revolved around this young girl.

Carroll was the only person that cared about the only

sign of love that his life.

Charles start weather and carol few gate.

Their relationship was boyfriend and girlfriend.

She actually thought he was cool and nobody else

really thought it was cool.

She had known him through her sisters to she trusted

him a little bit more.

He loved carol carol levittown.

He hated his red hair because people used to make fun

of him so she pulled.

One is red hair or side of his head and she said.

I love every hair on your head.

She was in kind of a poor home and and things here and lincoln.

I mean they weren't well to do or anything.

She came from people de rigeur.

The drags.

Her folks were divorced.

Before her mother left her biological father and remarried.

There was a lot of domestic turmoil and strife.

Is so she just wanted to get out.

And find a better life and that's probably what he

promised her.

She thought she was top of the world you know because

somebody older paid attention to her.

I'm better than everybody goes.

I got an older man.

It really look out.

I get the ride around in his car and all that stuff she

thought she was big shit.

Her mother really didn't like him she just did like as

personality and in think he was right for carol.

They thought he was worthless no good.

They told him that quite often.

They wanted him to stay away from carol and that

eventually he would get her prey if she was pregnant.

Already.

That's was taken at fifty seven.

My mother said that gets just the last time she seen

betting jane and filled up.

January twenty first nineteen fifty eight which is

about a month or so after the covert kill him.

Valdez bar.

Carol few gate natural mother.

Wanted charles shark whether to bring some use rugs

over to the house.

I down to a bar that home about one thirty in the

afternoon the about it the into a fight over care to

they've been one care of break open me.

To she goes somebody else.

She said for me not to come down anymore to see care

acetone development.

A she did not like she gave me.

The three times.

Now the got me so mad i hit back.

She let out allow crime and i ran to the other room.

He put a bullet in the guns.

Charlie and carol kind of settle in for the next few days.

It's a surreal circumstance to have these two

teenagers playing house for a few days and thinking

through what they wanna do next.

You have several people showing up you have a milkman

you have neighbors and they're all really that the

door by carol.

They were turned away every time by carol.

The family was sick.

You couldn't come and visit them please.

Go don't come back.

Carol put a note in the door that says everybody sick

with the flu go away.

Carroll's grandmother went to the police station.

And said something's very very wrong in that house.

A not on the door and carol came to the door and said oh

they can command to say away.

These police officers to carols word that

everything was just fine and left.

Charles grandmother said okay but the next time i'm

calm now be a search warrant.

We're going to get down to the bottom of this.

The girl's grandmother she was gonna get the cops.

So i took out a guy.

We walk up to my color change a flat tire.

Got get a into nebraska.

Now everybody told the police something's wrong go

check it out and please like that.

He tell finally charlie's own brother and to crawl in

go around in love.

And then found the bodies.

Wait interrupt this program with an emergency news

bulletin lincoln police or the sea of a gruesome

trouble playing in a city and belmont section.

The police found three bodies hidden in our

buildings by the home a relative as identify.

The victims as marion bartlett is white belt a

bartlett and a and three year old daughter betty.

Jane bartlett.

Our job these will be performed by police say it

appeared the body that been there are approximately

one week.

At me about a got into this spot.

I have a brush go with me.

Marrying game and.

He was just about ready to come down the gamer to out

about it.

Charles gets the gun and shoots mr bartlett.

Turned the gun also on mrs bartlett.

The child that he gene is yelling.

Loud enough that the neighbors can hear.

Charles takes the bottom his rifle and strikes his child.

People are devastated by it.

They were appalled by a it was something that never

happened unlike and before.

The it was.

You know is unprecedented thing.

Was pretty horrific scene.

He drug felder bar like out to the outhouse doctor as

far as a good down into the toilet but very jane and a

cardboard box set her on the toilet seat.

And then drug marion bartlett out to the chicken coop.

On the day after the bartlett's murders they

actually mentioned the culvert murder in the newspaper.

As is kind of similar.

The reporting was actually starting to question the

role of the please.

The whole situation at the or woodhouse wasn't total

embarrassment for the police.

A police officer came out.

There are those suspicious activity.

Up to fourteen people went to that house knocked on

the door some more than once they were turned away.

The police on two separate occasions went to the house.

Police say that part of the reason they didn't

respond or take.

The complaints seriously is that this was a home

where there had been calls more than once.

It was obviously just a shrug that something else has

gone on the bartlett house.

Now if that had been people from the other side of the

tracks the rich side of town might the investigation

been different.

Charlie was immediately suspected at the beginning

they were actually in the house for six days.

People would only seen carol and she was acting all weird.

So when these bodies were found it's immediately

charlie probably did this and where's girl and few get.

Police are seeking nineteen year.

Old charles are stark whether of like and the

bartlett daughter parallel.

Whether is believed to be driving in nineteen forty

nine a black ford with a machine radiator grille

anyone's body.

Nascar is asked to contact will link and police

department or your nearest law enforcement.

Agency do not approach that aspect.

Charlie boys.

I wanna see a weird kid.

He really want to emulate james dean.

He starred comedies here in that fashion acting like

a character.

Last quarter.

What is it trouble.

He was quick to anger he would take something on the

playground and this literally beating their kid to a

pulp and rubbing his face in a gravel until he was bleeding.

All over his face and then just walking away.

Or he was a violent cat but he was filled with rage.

I mean he hated everything the only thing choice

stark where will.

I was care of few gate and guns.

A romantic true crime like a bonnie and clyde.

The romance was at the t v if it wasn't for carols

parents saying trial you can't see our daughter anymore.

It wouldn't have been you know the stark whether

murder spree.

At the are lighthouse does not until four o'clock in

the afternoon that the bodies are found.

And by then charles and carol are already down and bennett.

It's january their snow dirt roads.

Their car gets stuck.

He drove into the overdrive got stuck in our.

Don't work about two hours couldn't get it out.

They were walk up to mars farmhouse.

I told him.

I want to him for me am.

Shut okay.

He walked into that.

Ignored.

Man.

After all that on what.

Nebraska highway patrol and and sheriff's deputies

have surrounded a better farm out of thirty.

Nine year.

Old august meyer were nineteen year.

Old charles start weather and his female companion

carolan few games are believed inside.

Because i guess my and come out and charlie's missing

begin to the conclusion will.

Charlie must be in there.

And they basically created a siege of the house.

Through gas bombs and slowly went up to it.

In crashed into the house.

And found august myers body dead there.

The murdered body of a seventy year old farmer has

been discovered near his outside better to nebraska.

Sixteen miles from lincoln authorities say the

victim august.

Meyer was killed by a shotgun blast.

And then again it was like okay where's carols body

because they just kept saying expecting to find her

young dead.

Somewhere.

Fuel look at stark weather's family.

They're not really all that abnormal.

That a number of kids they didn't do this.

I think the family did the best they could with all of

their children and the only one that turned out

really abnormal was dark.

Whether the other kids turned out okay basically.

I'm going to most then i played something more

snapped after the the first three island.

I didn't think much about them.

But after that and i thought that he had glam heresy as

pictured in many the news reports of a while now.

He liked it was bad that had never went back and get out

last them.

But it.

I can hear that the parents out to take it make it into that.

Wait nineteen fifties america's the seemingly a

very tranquil place but also a lot of parents were

concerned about rock and roll music elevation.

In retrospect it all seems benign that we started to

happen though.

I believe with all of my heart that it is a

contributing factor your our juvenile delinquency

of the day.

By one hundred percent believe.

Why i believe that it because i know how it would think.

I know what it does to you.

And i know are the able feeling that you fail.

For a lot of people there was a sense that.

Things are going bad.

The nineteen fifties became this kind of extreme

moment of that.

I would say where we are pure and innocent and virginal.

A became more part of a kind of performative american story.

We told about ourselves and probably because.

We saw the ending coming.

And so when this little monster it appears this

little punk bow legged.

Redheaded.

Packer would appear and kills people for no reason.

It's.

He gave that town a nervous breakdown.

I first heard about it on a television.

L that do is murder.

This is the first time that somebody was accused of

murder was being broadcast on television.

The press was all over the place.

The local news station they literally just gotten

their cameras then when this murder spree be began.

At the time when they first started learning about

these murders happening the crew was looking over

their newly acquired cameras and going okay.

How do we use this thing.

You see it on the news and they're going.

We're all gonna die you know they can't catch this.

I wouldn't we gonna do.

This in there says class people went and took their

can't side of school.

Was very scary start weather was a garbage man and he

was i bought it as garbage bag.

My dad had this fifty three else will be all that he

liked really well charles and he would come and talk

to my dad about way the on the route.

So my dad that was another reason.

He was kind of afraid.

He was afraid he'd come there get that car.

I'm right handed my grandfather get their guns out

and i've never seen anybody do that before.

Nebraska was genuinely afraid that is not overblown

that is not exaggerate it because the police are so

far behind in picking up on this that everything that

they're learning it is a couple hours.

Even a full day of behind a good feelings are taking place.

They were processing crime scenes while a whole

other set of bodies were being discovered.

How it all stay overnight couple into a scale.

I got a few years of was wrong show.

I was going to get out.

I guess stuck gave we walk about four miles away.

As they're walking my car pulls up and inside our

bobby johnson and carole king.

Jensen and king represented the average high school

couple that were in love going together and i will be

on the road to getting married.

Page two people gave it a fifty four go.

I talked to drive.

It turned out that the most popular couple in bed at

nebraska just picked up the two most wanted

criminals in the state of nebraska.

Charlie and carol get the car they ask bobby jones

hundred turnovers wallet.

And at some point sharp whether pulls a gun on him.

And drove him to their cave.

I sure rent it out cause.

Are they walk up to all as i said if he can walk away.

Three come after me but i will shoot him or.

Girl was one of the korea.

Yeah.

Later that day searchers peered into an abandoned

storm cellar and turned away second.

The bodies or king jensen were found riddled with bullets.

He was this fresh faced innocent good hearted good

samaritan kids right all american apple pie

accosted at random by their dark evil twins.

Those pictures are extremely graphic.

They're just.

Breathtakingly gruesome a lot of people were just aghast.

I've never seen the photos i've never wanted to read

the description so.

Charlie did some gruesome gruesome things to carole king.

Our daughter jane doe i screwed.

I tried to burn.

Could get a boy your school in a and bag.

I sitting there looking at it.

After their.

Left.

To get a big graphic here he took a knife after

shooting or he took a knife three stabbed or up the

vagina multiple times to the point where it went

halfway upper torso.

They had found to play and stacks and rock center that

he had inserted into her vagina that was just to her

effects to even contemplate back then in the fifties.

It was so out of the normal experience of people ages

couldn't imagine that something like that would

happen here and like and.

There was a certain you can't make it up fictional

quality to it.

It's the nice teenagers are trying to help out a who

get raped and killed by the bad teachers.

Right.

Many people today do not really understand our time

is because they're too close to the.

Joey understand the signs of our time.

What do they bought ten it.

You know we have to have a standard.

The outside standard.

God way of judge you.

And i wonder what he thinks of our time.

I think he would weep put our time.

For learned for and blue and red where you can throw

you honestly.

For her with the boy.

Well.

One drug hi with my.

The former around.

I just can't believe he did it.

You can't believe you did not as gruesome murder was no.

I think you said something about charlie acting

differently after he met carol.

Yes he was different to what is really changed.

Carol just did not get along with people that's just

the way she was.

She looked like an angry a young lady.

And could care less about anybody else.

She looked like she'd been through a lot of i thought

oh wow assia hard like a broad.

Kara always wanted to be.

She wanted to be a star.

She wanted to be somebody.

She wanted to get away from her home.

He was going to take her away from that and that's why

she did what she did.

When they're leaving lankan they stop at taste

conical station because he wants to have his tire fix.

While he's there in the service station he sends or

across a brick is cafe and towler to buy some hamburgers.

The waitress that waiter daughter was name.

Juanita bell human coming toward the at all rather rapidly.

Who.

Oil and hurry one.

He worked in the north side and the counter had a rat

order for hamburger.

Are dark whether or not jumped have a problem and to

her about and a hamburger charlie brooker.

I pulled out a bell when to federal minimum.

I thought out walking bow along the east end of the

building and in there are we know they're on.

She watched all the time mention.

Rock then kills yeah my type.

Directly at me.

Nebraska you get these gigantic thunderstorms

that's fresh off from miles.

So when i was little kid my parents would help me feel

better about of by.

I me count from when you see the light to when you hear

the thunder and that's how you'll know.

It's getting further and further away.

You see the light and be i go to count with be one two three.

And then it's like okay wait for the next one and then a

light and then one two three four.

See it's going further and further away you're safe.

This country had been like the thunderstorms it had

been getting further and further away.

People thought oh it's going out into the

countryside now is getting to been now is going

beyond that no longer something we have to deal with

and then it's a and just like the lightning storm has

crashed right into the middle of the.

The wards lived in a country club neighborhood of lincoln.

They were well to do.

He was a executive of steel company.

The words were a very prominent family in irritated

and all a very prominent families a blank.

I'm very well known very well like.

He was very big very powerful making a lot of money in

their big huge package which very few people have them.

I knew like ward.

They're only side but the thing that what was the last

year of school he went to private school.

So when this all happened here thank god was at home.

So after killing rubber jensen and carole king

instead of going further out of town they went back in

the lincoln.

It was january and nebraska.

It's freezing cold outside.

Cars at that time we're not exactly known for their

good heating.

So at a certain one charlie was just like well.

We have to haul out somewhere.

So you drove along this winding road right by the

country club where is garbage food often was.

Buried or even boy that a one on twenty four.

Go to burst is there a lady made.

Hey about our drop dead to interfere with the spend a day.

There.

Later they will be nice.

Nothing would happen.

I call the cops.

They were.

To about to that afternoon.

The only was upstairs.

Was there about twenty minutes.

Are we don't have to fear.

My grandmother was in her nightgown.

She went up stairs asked if she could change her powers.

Stark whether said she took a shot at him.

But no bullet was ever found.

And then he stabbed essence ward.

He told karol the clean the ny.

And she did sao.

Carol stood at the dining room window waiting for i

grandfather to come home from work.

He had stopped by the governor's office convincing

where the owner.

And when she saw the headlights she yelled here he comes.

So when my grandfather team man he met.

Start by their and knew exactly how he was facing

because he had just been talking about him like the governor.

Mr eugene mouth.

Our cheap that there's been you tell us what you found

inside this road.

Home found the bodies of mr and mrs word and and made

the women done so.

Mr orange body was willing and said door and this is roger.

Body was the between a belgian a sub bedroom on the

second floor and as used to rebound behind her and she

added a gay gunner mile.

And i made.

Lillian fencer was only.

Him the northeast bedroom hands down and found

between about.

Going on her mouth.

Both clear award and her made were stabbed multiple

times and very versatile ways and what i mean by that

is not just simply stabbed be killed but in very

private areas in very aggressive ways.

It was horrifying he kept stabbing her over and over again.

When you look at what he did you engaged was called

overkill what's far beyond what is necessary to

commit the crime to kill the person over.

Kill shows an enormous amount of inner rage the level

of anger that stark whether had goes right to the core

of his personality.

He was terribly terribly jealous of anybody who is

important are successful.

And he said something interesting them when when

you're dead everybody's equal that's how he saw in

his mind.

If i kill this guy look at him there.

I'm the one who killed him.

He saw such a big shot look at me.

Stark whether would have these dreams of death.

And jets was nice death was kind.

Death was nothing to fear.

She comes a dream.

She told me they don't pay no hurry.

I will let you forget.

At one time to it comes to me with coffee.

He told me again.

The because failed away with me it to come to a big fire.

Golfing story milk.

No down there are three.

Great flames of fire on each side of me.

But it wasn't.

Like i always thought he'll be.

He was more like.

Beautiful flames goal.

And i will go.

Share stand there the window.

Oh i could feel been apart from the waist down.

Current half human half day.

On they didn't have no nick do know no no no years.

Close our first he got further further away.

The show became.

More informed fair to i couldn't hear ya.

About america.

I couldn't move my arms or legs.

For said david simon.

I said to myself.

Some day i paid my bag.

I wanted revenge porn the world.

It is she would race.

Indications inside the road what caused us to

believe that the girl we're still will.

Start weather or at least was door with him.

A road.

A jacket with the letters of bennett presumably

minute high school and presumably a girl jacket were

found inside out.

And occasionally.

Law enforcement was initially searching for

charlie and expecting to find carols body.

They thought that she was probably one of his victims

that she was probably murdered as well and the word

home or she'll found carol kings.

Jacket left behind meanwhile player awards.

Jacket went missing.

And from that moment forward it went from being an

investigation of what is charlie dawn and looking

for her body to believing she was his accomplice.

What is an expos of investigation know she'll.

Probably going to be performed.

Lay on everybody's would we are definitely

establish your information that will assist us in investigate.

When we look at the case i think it's important point

out to men that were on it from day.

One sheriff narrow corn up.

And lancaster county attorney elmer she'll.

Typically people who were prosecutor they think

only of the person who's in charge of the trial by he

got involved much earlier and was involved in the investigation.

Because of the murder of the wards the police were

under mounting pressure.

Know society will allow the equivalent of for people

to go the rich side of town and kill the most prominent

citizens especially one that was having lunch with

the governor that day.

One can only imagine the governor and everyday was

saying why are you not getting.

These guys you're not doing your job.

I don't have discovered by my body shop.

Diameter my mind and i have made an appeal.

Joining counties including ahmad us and all of a or

whatever they can to awaken we want to cover lankan

blog to block.

When that happened though said he just kind of when

into a frenzy.

The school for shut down the governor call out the

national guard.

Radio and television were blasting out all day long

bulletin boards and bulletin people weren't severe

locked down.

I mean real locked down to the point where you move

furniture and from of the doors.

People had no idea where this pair was located.

That kind of rare criminal murderer who doesn't

follow any sort of a method is really their most to

promote do an ama who would have thought oh from our

family and my partner down and kill.

I'm a farmer has in his seventies than a couple.

Young teenagers then come back to lankan and kill one

of the was from is in lincoln and then they just disappear.

It's stolen laura words big packard bell travel

clear across the state of nebraska and well into wyoming.

They heard in the news story.

The police were looking for board vehicle that they

were and.

And so charlie decided okay.

We're going to switch cars.

You see somebody stop alongside the road.

This is merle collison and this guy we've to open the door.

So he shot a man through the window.

And so then about that time car started stopping on

both sides feral still in the packard.

She sees the police car with the police car can't see

what's happening in the middle of the road.

So that's when she got bigger and ran.

To the deputies car.

When she jumped into police officers car police

officer had no idea what she was saying.

He just heard this girl's completely frantic

couldn't tell you using finally just understood the

word stark weather and she pointed for them.

Charlie season and police officer season and so he

runs back to that packard jumps and drives off.

Bartley we met in nowhere.

I admired right about my turn round gate and back to

that got him a mildly.

The officer shot through the back window and a nick

sark weather in the air surprise.

This time bleeding.

Better burnish haired start with enough the server

room for lover and stopped got out.

Advertisement.

At any point during.

Right back up.

I'm going on out and hang her.

My bad man by damn right and permanent harm.

Different from.

The one hand back my my my.

Knocking down i grabbed a club.

Not a fireman and.

My my dorm and fine.

And.

Point across.

What's been latitude since his arrest why are you

doing very quiet.

He wanted you know questions.

Police a like either mean danger or maimed or.

Crowley the silent type.

I wouldn't say that even mean he didn't show that

isn't it.

He didn't have the best of it.

Okay.

Now and outlawed charles dark weather and his

girlfriend and care of you gave our boat in custody

writing separately and a convoy of cars bound for

lincoln share.

My current op is yours dark whether cannot escape

judging while share of carbs wipe gertrude well as

guard you being.

Car carrying around with care.

Carroll's family was a terrible family.

Her parents were divorced and then i'll just hate it

and am now.

Yeah i turned out that she was a fire and charlie was a match.

When cow god in the car she was wearing a sports car.

And chain knocked over at our journey and said me

isn't as a nice coat.

Gertrude kiss.

Had you know i was.

Think i know how to post countermeasures start out.

Yeah all who had just watched her father.

Half sister or family all these people had been

pretty fly now.

Down there was no abortion our just sort of.

Our.

Wow.

The nature of our argument could be something like this.

We frequent our minds recorded fight on our kind of

using fitness debris or mind for unity to bring them

to god.

We talk them down to start fell to the been doing it for

libidos and to supplemental our games.

But it quite us what the animal to the field.

And the cat our town of don't my army and.

Not.

Right and don't charge not one nine when i'm

president not have him on an act hundred mile run up to

our area.

The someone teenager with a certain degree of pride

confess to the murderers.

Nebraska act.

This was the biggest thing that ever hit lincoln nebraska.

It was just a circus and it was on t v every night.

The press were able to get this on to the people's

minds that it's the new bonnie and clyde.

Stark whether look bad we see him walking around with

the sheriff sunny.

He of me as a cigarette dangling of his mouth than a

black leather coat.

I don't think he looked to remorseful at all.

He was a celebrity.

He was quoted as saying i'd always wanted to be are now ah.

He loved that he loved the attention.

I think he truly felt like the world was supposed to

know the named charlie stark weather whether an

ensemble level he kind of realize the only way.

I'm gonna get the fame that i deserve is gonna come in

the form of anthony.

Charles start brother is one of the early patient

zero versions of yeah.

I'm going to express my rage and kill a bunch of people

and it will make me famous.

People will now understand my story they're going to

read my story and it's one of those reasons that this

set of crimes and these characters stayed in the

national memory.

Americans love outlaws.

We always have.

We love guns.

We love sexuality romance and we love people who just

say fuck you to the establishment.

It's an american disease.

We love sacks and we love violence and we love young

for bed and romance.

It was a dramatic story but it wasn't one of those arcs

in all like our.

They were lovers and they were on the run and he kills

everything in sight because he just loved her so much.

It was none of those things and so it doesn't fit into

our mixed and it needs to be and rast and torn apart.

People can drag you lend to the point where are you

didn't know that they were evil when you first met them.

And it's scary.

It's very scary.

I think that's what it was with stark la verne carol.

There's a remarkable photo of carol sitting on a

caught in the county jail.

Kirk suppression is still stone cold and she looks angry.

But in that photo she looks like a teenager.

And she just looks tiny.

You could read it can different ways.

You can read is guilty.

You you can read.

It is innocent but the photo itself to see this little

girl in this big jail cell and she's all alone.

And it's over for.

Be interesting about carroll was your age.

She just turned fourteen troll use a team that's a

huge gap.

She was a eighth grader will your junior high at the time.

The a pretty difficult situation a beard if you're a

fourteen year old to be on a killing spree would your boyfriend.

So the question becomes how much did he just pull her

along she just did you know his bidding because he was older.

So first thing when they take her into custody.

First thing she says is can.

I call my parents were my parents.

The sheriff or curious thing to say.

Wasn't she their didn't she know they were dead

wasn't she involved and killing them.

How could she not have known her parents were dad.

I could not imagine being hold up in a house for five days.

Not knowing that your parents are dead.

But then i started putting the pieces together.

I bought this is that right.

I just didn't stack up from what i knew about.

Girls.

How cultures top as to obey and agree and just go along with.

That felt like there were something wrong west best story.

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And if i know.

I would not have will i regret nothing would.

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