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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,250 --> 00:00:03,086 (ominous music) 2 00:00:05,171 --> 00:00:07,465 (dramatic music) 3 00:00:07,465 --> 00:00:10,260 - [Narrator] A murder in a major Canadian city 4 00:00:10,260 --> 00:00:11,845 on the prairies. 5 00:00:11,845 --> 00:00:14,764 - Her property is strewn about the area like her boot. 6 00:00:14,764 --> 00:00:17,434 Other things, like her purse with her identification, 7 00:00:17,434 --> 00:00:19,268 is found inside a garbage can. 8 00:00:19,268 --> 00:00:20,729 (dramatic music) 9 00:00:20,729 --> 00:00:22,439 - [Narrator] Police have no suspects 10 00:00:22,439 --> 00:00:25,150 but have previously warned of a sexual attacker. 11 00:00:26,234 --> 00:00:28,903 - The police were aware of the sexual attacker 12 00:00:28,903 --> 00:00:32,949 who'd been operating in Saskatoon in the fall of 1968. 13 00:00:32,949 --> 00:00:36,202 - [Narrator] A police force pushing for resolution. 14 00:00:37,078 --> 00:00:38,455 - Because in this case, 15 00:00:38,455 --> 00:00:40,665 people dug in so hard. 16 00:00:40,665 --> 00:00:43,168 Many are still dug in. 17 00:00:43,168 --> 00:00:44,502 - [Narrator] Lives can be ruined 18 00:00:44,502 --> 00:00:47,338 through the pursuit of one unwavering idea. 19 00:00:47,338 --> 00:00:48,548 (dramatic music) 20 00:00:48,548 --> 00:00:49,966 - It's so bad. 21 00:00:49,966 --> 00:00:52,135 When the system fails like this, 22 00:00:52,135 --> 00:00:53,303 it's just so bad. 23 00:00:53,303 --> 00:00:54,763 (suspenseful music) 24 00:00:54,763 --> 00:00:56,473 - [Narrator] And the tragedy doesn't always end 25 00:00:56,473 --> 00:00:58,016 with the murder victim. 26 00:00:59,350 --> 00:01:01,186 (dramatic music) 27 00:01:01,186 --> 00:01:04,731 - The unsolved ones we have to stand up. 28 00:01:04,731 --> 00:01:08,818 - And approach these cases in a way outside the box. 29 00:01:08,818 --> 00:01:10,403 - Let the world know 30 00:01:10,403 --> 00:01:12,113 those out there that did commit a murder, 31 00:01:12,113 --> 00:01:14,240 there are people that are coming after you. 32 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,533 - There's just a lot of good people 33 00:01:15,533 --> 00:01:16,785 trying to do the right thing. 34 00:01:16,785 --> 00:01:18,119 (muffled radio chatter) 35 00:01:18,119 --> 00:01:19,328 - Because it's something that 36 00:01:19,328 --> 00:01:20,830 you have to be passionate about. 37 00:01:20,830 --> 00:01:23,583 - Solve this and bring some peace to the family at least, 38 00:01:23,583 --> 00:01:25,293 I'm just doing my job. 39 00:01:25,293 --> 00:01:26,669 (dramatic music) 40 00:01:26,669 --> 00:01:29,547 (gavel banging) 41 00:01:32,342 --> 00:01:33,843 (eerie music) 42 00:01:33,843 --> 00:01:36,638 - [Narrator] A Canadian prairie city in mid-winter. 43 00:01:36,638 --> 00:01:37,764 In the early morning, 44 00:01:37,764 --> 00:01:40,100 people go about their routines, 45 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:41,810 getting ready for work and school, 46 00:01:41,810 --> 00:01:45,480 with no idea about the tragedy that has occurred. 47 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,607 - The morning of January 31, 1969, 48 00:01:47,607 --> 00:01:52,362 in Saskatoon it was minus 40 degrees. 49 00:01:52,362 --> 00:01:54,614 There was ice mist in the air, 50 00:01:54,614 --> 00:01:56,366 and what they encountered, 51 00:01:56,366 --> 00:01:58,701 school children, I believe, on their way to school, 52 00:01:58,701 --> 00:02:00,745 found the body of Gail Miller 53 00:02:00,745 --> 00:02:01,871 (eerie ominous music) 54 00:02:01,871 --> 00:02:04,374 in a snowbank in a back lane. 55 00:02:04,374 --> 00:02:05,875 - [Narrator] The children run home 56 00:02:05,875 --> 00:02:07,710 to tell their parents about what they found, 57 00:02:07,710 --> 00:02:12,423 and the local police receive a call soon after. 58 00:02:12,423 --> 00:02:14,383 (suspenseful music) 59 00:02:14,383 --> 00:02:17,137 The police are on the scene in the early morning. 60 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:22,308 They find Gail Miller with her stockings down by her ankles 61 00:02:22,308 --> 00:02:24,144 and only wearing a single boot. 62 00:02:25,436 --> 00:02:27,605 Until she goes in for an autopsy, 63 00:02:27,605 --> 00:02:29,482 they can only guess whether or not 64 00:02:29,482 --> 00:02:31,693 she has been sexually assaulted. 65 00:02:31,693 --> 00:02:34,487 - Beyond looking at the evidence on the body itself, 66 00:02:34,487 --> 00:02:38,532 such as stab wounds to the victim's abdomen and neck, 67 00:02:38,532 --> 00:02:41,369 investigators will have to scoured the area 68 00:02:41,369 --> 00:02:43,246 for possible evidence. 69 00:02:43,246 --> 00:02:46,875 The snowy Canadian winter is a double-edged sword. 70 00:02:46,875 --> 00:02:50,502 Things like blood can be easily seen against the white. 71 00:02:50,502 --> 00:02:54,757 Other evidence can easily be concealed or missed. 72 00:02:54,757 --> 00:02:57,594 (suspenseful music) 73 00:02:57,594 --> 00:02:59,596 - [Narrator] These kinds of assaults on women 74 00:02:59,596 --> 00:03:01,848 have been happening with enough frequency 75 00:03:01,848 --> 00:03:04,184 that warnings are issued to the public. 76 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,395 - The police had published a warning in December of 1968, 77 00:03:08,395 --> 00:03:10,648 warning women about an attacker 78 00:03:10,648 --> 00:03:12,734 who was sexually assaulting women 79 00:03:12,734 --> 00:03:14,861 in a particular area of Saskatoon, 80 00:03:14,861 --> 00:03:16,779 and then this happens. 81 00:03:16,779 --> 00:03:19,907 (gentle music) 82 00:03:19,907 --> 00:03:23,494 - [Narrator] Saskatoon is the largest city in Saskatchewan, 83 00:03:23,494 --> 00:03:26,623 the province found in the center of the Canadian prairies, 84 00:03:26,623 --> 00:03:29,000 known for its wonderful summers, 85 00:03:29,667 --> 00:03:31,627 but long, brutal winters. 86 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:34,797 - Gail Miller was a nurse's assistant 87 00:03:34,797 --> 00:03:38,551 who was going to school and working in Saskatoon. 88 00:03:39,677 --> 00:03:41,429 - [Narrator] Gail shows a passion for working 89 00:03:41,429 --> 00:03:43,556 with children from a young age. 90 00:03:43,556 --> 00:03:45,683 She is born in 1948, 91 00:03:45,683 --> 00:03:47,518 and grows up in Laura, 92 00:03:47,518 --> 00:03:50,813 a small community just west of Saskatoon. 93 00:03:51,940 --> 00:03:54,817 When she is 12, she begins babysitting 94 00:03:54,817 --> 00:03:57,237 for a baby that's terminally ill. 95 00:03:58,529 --> 00:04:00,281 - By all accounts, a wonderful person, 96 00:04:00,281 --> 00:04:03,451 and starting to lead her life and pursue a career. 97 00:04:03,451 --> 00:04:04,869 (gentle music) 98 00:04:04,869 --> 00:04:07,580 She lived in a home about a block away 99 00:04:07,580 --> 00:04:08,998 from where her body was found. 100 00:04:08,998 --> 00:04:12,627 She had, I think, two or three roommates. 101 00:04:12,627 --> 00:04:14,045 - [Narrator] There is little doubt 102 00:04:14,045 --> 00:04:17,464 a promising future had been stolen from Gail. 103 00:04:17,464 --> 00:04:18,925 (dramatic music) 104 00:04:18,925 --> 00:04:21,552 The area where Gail lives and her body is found 105 00:04:21,552 --> 00:04:23,053 is familiar to the police, 106 00:04:23,053 --> 00:04:25,056 as it's where they've previously warned 107 00:04:25,056 --> 00:04:27,058 of a sexual predator. 108 00:04:27,058 --> 00:04:30,103 - The police, obviously, went to the scene. 109 00:04:30,103 --> 00:04:32,730 They canvassed the whole area. 110 00:04:34,065 --> 00:04:36,609 - [Narrator] The first officer on the scene finds a sweater, 111 00:04:36,609 --> 00:04:38,194 that looks to be torn from Gail, 112 00:04:38,194 --> 00:04:40,488 along with her missing shoe. 113 00:04:40,488 --> 00:04:45,410 - They were able to identify items belonging to Gail Miller. 114 00:04:45,410 --> 00:04:47,829 The contents of her purse, identification, 115 00:04:47,829 --> 00:04:51,874 some of her clothing it was strewn in a way 116 00:04:51,874 --> 00:04:54,752 leading away from where she had been located. 117 00:04:55,962 --> 00:04:59,424 - Her property is strewn about the area like her boot. 118 00:04:59,424 --> 00:05:01,884 Other things, like her purse with her identification, 119 00:05:01,884 --> 00:05:03,970 is found inside a garbage can. 120 00:05:03,970 --> 00:05:05,555 (dramatic music) 121 00:05:05,555 --> 00:05:07,974 - When they were seizing biological samples 122 00:05:07,974 --> 00:05:10,685 from the clothing of the deceased, 123 00:05:10,685 --> 00:05:12,937 from the body of the deceased, 124 00:05:12,937 --> 00:05:16,315 they found some residue in the snow 125 00:05:16,315 --> 00:05:18,401 that was supposedly semen. 126 00:05:18,401 --> 00:05:22,654 They wouldn't have the same sort of DNA level technology, 127 00:05:22,654 --> 00:05:28,077 but they had tools at the time, and they used them. 128 00:05:28,911 --> 00:05:30,663 - [Narrator] The police scour the neighborhood 129 00:05:30,663 --> 00:05:32,623 for any information they can find, 130 00:05:32,623 --> 00:05:35,668 anything that might lead them to a possible suspect. 131 00:05:35,668 --> 00:05:37,003 (dramatic music) 132 00:05:37,003 --> 00:05:38,713 - You never know who might have seen 133 00:05:38,713 --> 00:05:40,757 or heard something when investigating a case, 134 00:05:40,757 --> 00:05:42,342 and when a murder happens in an alley, 135 00:05:42,342 --> 00:05:43,885 there's at least a chance 136 00:05:43,885 --> 00:05:45,678 that a passerby witnessed something 137 00:05:45,678 --> 00:05:47,930 that could assist the police in their investigation. 138 00:05:47,930 --> 00:05:49,682 It doesn't always lead anywhere, 139 00:05:49,682 --> 00:05:51,017 but it's a starting point. 140 00:05:51,017 --> 00:05:52,851 (gentle dramatic music) 141 00:05:52,851 --> 00:05:54,187 - [Narrator] While the case is focused 142 00:05:54,187 --> 00:05:55,897 on Gail Miller's murder, 143 00:05:55,897 --> 00:05:58,900 there is still a sexual predator on the loose 144 00:05:58,900 --> 00:06:01,277 and more women being assaulted. 145 00:06:01,277 --> 00:06:03,237 - People inside the police department 146 00:06:03,237 --> 00:06:06,532 had developed what they called a modus operandi, 147 00:06:06,532 --> 00:06:10,745 an MO for how this attacker had attacked his victims. 148 00:06:10,745 --> 00:06:12,955 What were some characteristics 149 00:06:12,955 --> 00:06:16,125 of what did this person do when he attacked? 150 00:06:16,125 --> 00:06:19,962 They wrote to the RCMP to try to see 151 00:06:19,962 --> 00:06:22,339 if they had some resources available 152 00:06:22,339 --> 00:06:24,592 that could help them build a profile. 153 00:06:25,927 --> 00:06:27,303 - [Narrator] But even with a profile in mind, 154 00:06:27,303 --> 00:06:30,014 they still don't have anyone to link it to. 155 00:06:31,182 --> 00:06:33,810 Although their identity is unknown, 156 00:06:33,810 --> 00:06:35,645 police still believe the killer 157 00:06:35,645 --> 00:06:38,398 could be linked to the recent sexual assaults. 158 00:06:38,398 --> 00:06:39,690 (eerie music) 159 00:06:39,690 --> 00:06:41,192 With no major suspects, 160 00:06:41,192 --> 00:06:44,695 they begin offering a $2,000 reward 161 00:06:44,695 --> 00:06:47,323 for any information leading to the conviction 162 00:06:47,323 --> 00:06:49,575 of Gail's murderer. 163 00:06:49,575 --> 00:06:50,868 (tense music) 164 00:06:50,868 --> 00:06:52,161 After offering the reward, 165 00:06:52,161 --> 00:06:54,872 more women come forward reporting incidents. 166 00:06:54,872 --> 00:06:58,584 The police eliminate 160 possible suspects 167 00:06:58,584 --> 00:07:02,130 and are still no closer to finding a person of interest. 168 00:07:02,130 --> 00:07:05,091 Finally, the investigators think they have a break 169 00:07:05,091 --> 00:07:07,176 when a man walks in with information 170 00:07:07,176 --> 00:07:10,346 that is exactly what they are looking for. 171 00:07:11,013 --> 00:07:12,390 A month after Gail's death, 172 00:07:12,390 --> 00:07:14,016 police are approached by a man 173 00:07:14,016 --> 00:07:16,352 named Albert Shorty Cadrain. 174 00:07:16,352 --> 00:07:19,772 Cadrain claims that his friend, David Milgaard, 175 00:07:19,772 --> 00:07:22,733 visited him on the morning that Gail was murdered. 176 00:07:24,110 --> 00:07:26,070 - Milgaard had driven overnight with two friends 177 00:07:26,070 --> 00:07:29,490 from Regina to Saskatoon to visit a friend 178 00:07:29,490 --> 00:07:33,244 who by crazy coincidence happen to live 179 00:07:33,244 --> 00:07:36,372 about a block away from where Gail Miller's body 180 00:07:36,372 --> 00:07:38,124 had been found. 181 00:07:38,124 --> 00:07:41,878 They were having trouble locating the friend's home. 182 00:07:41,878 --> 00:07:44,172 They stopped at a motel. 183 00:07:44,172 --> 00:07:47,925 They help some people who were stuck in a back lane, 184 00:07:47,925 --> 00:07:51,721 and then eventually they got to where they wanted to go, 185 00:07:51,721 --> 00:07:53,097 and then carried on. 186 00:07:53,097 --> 00:07:55,141 They then traveled on further west 187 00:07:55,141 --> 00:07:57,977 just having sort of a carefree road trip 188 00:07:57,977 --> 00:08:00,855 of 16-year-old, 17-year-old kids. 189 00:08:02,190 --> 00:08:04,192 How Milgaard gets onto the police radar screen 190 00:08:04,192 --> 00:08:09,322 is that, yes, they post a reward, and Cadrain, 191 00:08:10,156 --> 00:08:11,866 the friend that Milgaard had gone to visit, 192 00:08:11,866 --> 00:08:13,826 goes in and implicates Milgaard. 193 00:08:13,826 --> 00:08:16,078 And says that he had seen blood on Milgaard's pants 194 00:08:16,078 --> 00:08:19,290 the morning of the murder, and that changed everything. 195 00:08:20,082 --> 00:08:21,542 - [Narrator] Milgaard is accused 196 00:08:21,542 --> 00:08:23,920 of being seen with blood on his clothes 197 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,839 soon after the murder is known to have taken place. 198 00:08:27,924 --> 00:08:30,176 If this blood belongs to Gail, 199 00:08:30,176 --> 00:08:33,221 the police may already have their culprit. 200 00:08:33,221 --> 00:08:34,972 (dramatic music) 201 00:08:34,972 --> 00:08:38,518 (tense dramatic music) 202 00:08:40,019 --> 00:08:43,523 (gentle somber music) 203 00:08:45,107 --> 00:08:46,651 (dramatic music) 204 00:08:46,651 --> 00:08:49,904 On a late January morning in 1969, 205 00:08:49,904 --> 00:08:51,572 children on their way to school 206 00:08:51,572 --> 00:08:54,116 are met by a terrible sight. 207 00:08:54,116 --> 00:08:55,910 Gail Miller's body is found 208 00:08:55,910 --> 00:08:58,328 in the snow and down an alley. 209 00:08:58,328 --> 00:09:00,164 (dramatic music) 210 00:09:00,164 --> 00:09:03,751 Soon after, the police arrive on the scene. 211 00:09:05,169 --> 00:09:07,588 Gail is a 20-year-old young woman 212 00:09:07,588 --> 00:09:09,215 working as a nursing assistant 213 00:09:09,215 --> 00:09:12,552 in a pediatric ward of the local hospital. 214 00:09:13,553 --> 00:09:16,847 Her life is unfortunately cut short. 215 00:09:18,266 --> 00:09:21,184 When the police offer a $2,000 reward 216 00:09:21,184 --> 00:09:23,729 for information leading to a conviction, 217 00:09:23,729 --> 00:09:26,816 their first major suspect comes to light. 218 00:09:28,234 --> 00:09:30,111 - Milgaard had driven overnight with two friends 219 00:09:30,111 --> 00:09:33,823 from Regina to Saskatoon to visit a friend. 220 00:09:33,823 --> 00:09:35,283 (dramatic music) 221 00:09:35,283 --> 00:09:37,285 - [Narrator] After Cadrain approached police 222 00:09:37,285 --> 00:09:40,121 implicating Milgaard, they begin a search for him. 223 00:09:40,121 --> 00:09:42,832 Milgaard is found in his home city of Winnipeg 224 00:09:42,832 --> 00:09:44,792 and is brought in for questioning. 225 00:09:44,792 --> 00:09:48,754 (tense dramatic music) 226 00:09:48,754 --> 00:09:50,256 - When police require investigating 227 00:09:50,256 --> 00:09:52,216 an accused person in a different jurisdiction, 228 00:09:52,216 --> 00:09:55,303 it requires assistance from the police in that jurisdiction. 229 00:09:55,303 --> 00:09:57,346 So generally they just reach out to them, 230 00:09:57,346 --> 00:09:58,973 and then they will work together to get 231 00:09:58,973 --> 00:10:00,891 the alleged criminal off the streets. 232 00:10:00,891 --> 00:10:03,602 - Cadrain reveals to the police 233 00:10:03,602 --> 00:10:05,438 that Milgaard and his two friends 234 00:10:05,438 --> 00:10:07,732 had visited his house that morning, 235 00:10:07,732 --> 00:10:09,692 and all three of them get interrogated, 236 00:10:09,692 --> 00:10:11,193 and all three of them say, 237 00:10:11,193 --> 00:10:12,445 "I don't know what you're talking about." 238 00:10:12,445 --> 00:10:15,197 And Milgaard was very cooperative 239 00:10:15,197 --> 00:10:17,617 and tried to reconstruct where he'd been. 240 00:10:17,617 --> 00:10:21,287 It was dark and he didn't really know his way around, 241 00:10:21,287 --> 00:10:23,372 but he tried to reconstruct his way around. 242 00:10:23,372 --> 00:10:25,833 And he was trying to be as helpful as possible. 243 00:10:27,251 --> 00:10:29,128 - [Narrator] David tells the police 244 00:10:29,128 --> 00:10:31,672 about his time in Saskatoon, 245 00:10:31,672 --> 00:10:34,050 how he and his friends got lost, 246 00:10:34,925 --> 00:10:36,344 and how they had helped someone 247 00:10:36,344 --> 00:10:38,679 who had gotten their car stuck in the snow. 248 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:39,722 (dramatic music) 249 00:10:39,722 --> 00:10:41,265 The friends that David had been 250 00:10:41,265 --> 00:10:43,601 traveling with are interviewed. 251 00:10:43,601 --> 00:10:47,396 Their stories match much closer to what David has said 252 00:10:47,396 --> 00:10:49,649 than the version that Cadrain had told. 253 00:10:50,566 --> 00:10:51,984 - Separating witnesses during questioning 254 00:10:51,984 --> 00:10:53,402 is extremely important. 255 00:10:53,402 --> 00:10:55,988 It allows the police to corroborate details, 256 00:10:55,988 --> 00:10:57,782 and even small details and differences 257 00:10:57,782 --> 00:11:00,451 between people's stories can have a huge impact 258 00:11:00,451 --> 00:11:02,203 on how the case goes. 259 00:11:02,203 --> 00:11:05,331 Separating them allows the police to do their job properly. 260 00:11:05,331 --> 00:11:07,375 Not only do they corroborate evidence, 261 00:11:07,375 --> 00:11:09,418 it really shows if they're hiding anything. 262 00:11:09,418 --> 00:11:11,754 Those details that are hidden will come out. 263 00:11:11,754 --> 00:11:13,673 - Everybody, his friends as well, said, 264 00:11:13,673 --> 00:11:15,675 "You know, nothing happened. 265 00:11:15,675 --> 00:11:17,968 "We'd gone into Saskatoon. 266 00:11:17,968 --> 00:11:19,386 "We got lost. 267 00:11:19,386 --> 00:11:20,721 "We finally found our way to Cadrain's, 268 00:11:20,721 --> 00:11:21,972 "and then we headed off to Edmonton." 269 00:11:21,972 --> 00:11:24,684 (dramatic music) 270 00:11:24,684 --> 00:11:26,018 - This was a group of kids 271 00:11:26,018 --> 00:11:28,354 picking up a friend for a road trip. 272 00:11:28,354 --> 00:11:31,607 They were in Saskatoon just a short period of time. 273 00:11:31,607 --> 00:11:33,025 (dramatic music) 274 00:11:33,025 --> 00:11:34,860 - [Narrator] According to Cadrain, 275 00:11:34,860 --> 00:11:36,404 Milgaard showed up to his home 276 00:11:36,404 --> 00:11:38,322 with blood stains on his pants 277 00:11:38,322 --> 00:11:41,701 and acted suspicious the rest of the road trip. 278 00:11:43,869 --> 00:11:46,580 (eerie music) 279 00:11:46,580 --> 00:11:50,333 With no leads on the sexual attacker in Saskatoon 280 00:11:50,333 --> 00:11:51,669 and pressure mounting, 281 00:11:51,669 --> 00:11:54,672 the police decide to dig deeper into Milgaard. 282 00:11:56,340 --> 00:11:59,844 - The police start to harden their view 283 00:11:59,844 --> 00:12:02,096 that Cadrain might be correct. 284 00:12:02,096 --> 00:12:04,557 If that's true, 285 00:12:04,557 --> 00:12:05,975 then in the police's mind 286 00:12:05,975 --> 00:12:08,519 when Milgaard and his friends said nothing happened, 287 00:12:08,519 --> 00:12:11,939 it must mean that they weren't telling the whole story. 288 00:12:13,524 --> 00:12:17,945 So the police created a roadmap of what they wanted 289 00:12:19,530 --> 00:12:23,409 or believed they could get from Nichol John and Ron Wilson, 290 00:12:23,409 --> 00:12:27,496 the two friends, and they took them to Saskatoon. 291 00:12:27,496 --> 00:12:30,416 - [Narrator] Milgaard's friends are questioned again 292 00:12:30,416 --> 00:12:33,502 and admit that there is a 12 minute period 293 00:12:33,502 --> 00:12:35,963 where they don't know where Milgaard is. 294 00:12:35,963 --> 00:12:37,548 (tense music) 295 00:12:37,548 --> 00:12:40,176 After helping one driver get unstuck from the snow, 296 00:12:40,176 --> 00:12:42,261 their own car breaks down, 297 00:12:42,261 --> 00:12:44,263 and both David and one friend 298 00:12:44,263 --> 00:12:46,140 go in opposite directions 299 00:12:46,140 --> 00:12:47,183 in search of help. 300 00:12:49,934 --> 00:12:51,937 (suspenseful music) 301 00:12:51,937 --> 00:12:53,689 - Twelve minutes might seem like a lot, 302 00:12:53,689 --> 00:12:57,193 but it takes far less than 12 minutes to commit a murder, 303 00:12:57,193 --> 00:12:59,361 and 12 minute window when there's no witnesses 304 00:12:59,361 --> 00:13:01,572 or any suspects to see what happened, 305 00:13:01,572 --> 00:13:03,657 it's enough to build a case around. 306 00:13:03,657 --> 00:13:09,121 - Then they put Nichol John into a women's prison overnight, 307 00:13:10,456 --> 00:13:13,167 and they put a polygraph operator in with Ron Wilson, 308 00:13:13,167 --> 00:13:14,794 and they started working on them. 309 00:13:14,794 --> 00:13:19,799 Gradually, the police got them from, "Nothing happened," 310 00:13:20,674 --> 00:13:22,259 to Wilson implicating Milgaard 311 00:13:22,259 --> 00:13:23,761 saying he saw blood on his pants, 312 00:13:23,761 --> 00:13:25,763 and Milgaard making admissions 313 00:13:25,763 --> 00:13:28,724 that he had stabbed her or had fixed her 314 00:13:28,724 --> 00:13:30,059 or whatever his words were. 315 00:13:30,059 --> 00:13:32,144 And they got Nichol John to the point 316 00:13:32,144 --> 00:13:34,772 where she said that she was an eyewitness, 317 00:13:34,772 --> 00:13:36,065 and saw Milgaard do it. 318 00:13:39,735 --> 00:13:42,238 (gentle music) 319 00:13:42,238 --> 00:13:45,366 - [Narrator] The police get enough from David's friends 320 00:13:45,366 --> 00:13:47,993 that they are able to put together an idea 321 00:13:47,993 --> 00:13:51,163 of what happened on the morning of the murder. 322 00:13:52,373 --> 00:13:54,833 - There's no question the police put a lot 323 00:13:54,833 --> 00:13:58,462 of pressure on both Ron Wilson and Nichol John. 324 00:13:58,462 --> 00:14:01,256 - [Narrator] Even with his friends going on record 325 00:14:01,256 --> 00:14:03,300 as to what David has done, 326 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:05,970 he continues to deny everything. 327 00:14:07,096 --> 00:14:09,515 - The police were aware of the sexual attacker 328 00:14:09,515 --> 00:14:13,894 who'd been operating in Saskatoon in the fall of 1968, 329 00:14:13,894 --> 00:14:17,147 and they were quite public in the media 330 00:14:17,147 --> 00:14:21,235 that they were linking that sex attacker to the murder. 331 00:14:21,235 --> 00:14:22,945 (sinister music) 332 00:14:22,945 --> 00:14:25,781 - [Narrator] Four months after the murder of Gail Miller, 333 00:14:25,781 --> 00:14:28,868 David Milgaard is officially arrested 334 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:31,203 and charged with her murder. 335 00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:34,999 - One of the unique aspects of the case was that 336 00:14:34,999 --> 00:14:37,001 in Canada currently the law is that 337 00:14:37,001 --> 00:14:39,295 when you have a preliminary inquiry, 338 00:14:39,295 --> 00:14:40,379 there's a publication ban. 339 00:14:40,379 --> 00:14:41,922 The media can't publish 340 00:14:41,922 --> 00:14:44,174 the evidence of a preliminary inquiry. 341 00:14:44,174 --> 00:14:46,135 Milgaard's preliminary inquiry happened 342 00:14:46,135 --> 00:14:47,720 just before that law took effect. 343 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,056 So all the evidence at the preliminary inquiry 344 00:14:51,056 --> 00:14:53,684 was on a daily basis published 345 00:14:53,684 --> 00:14:55,895 in the Saskatoon Star Phoenix. 346 00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:57,563 And then when it went to trial, obviously, 347 00:14:57,563 --> 00:14:59,398 there was plenty of coverage as well. 348 00:14:59,398 --> 00:15:03,152 It was kind of a big deal in the local media. 349 00:15:03,152 --> 00:15:04,612 (eerie music) 350 00:15:04,612 --> 00:15:06,572 - [Narrator] Things only get worse for Milgaard. 351 00:15:06,572 --> 00:15:09,742 While being transported to testify at the trial, 352 00:15:09,742 --> 00:15:13,954 Ron Wilson tells police he hears from Lapchuk and Melnyk, 353 00:15:13,954 --> 00:15:16,999 who were partying with Milgaard in a Regina Motel 354 00:15:16,999 --> 00:15:20,294 just four months after Gail Miller's murder. 355 00:15:20,294 --> 00:15:22,963 Milgaard is teased about being responsible. 356 00:15:24,214 --> 00:15:26,467 He responds by asking for his pairing knife 357 00:15:26,467 --> 00:15:30,763 and acts out how he stabbed her 14 times. 358 00:15:31,972 --> 00:15:34,683 - It became sort of this large part 359 00:15:34,683 --> 00:15:37,811 of the final nail in his coffin at the trial. 360 00:15:39,104 --> 00:15:41,607 - [Narrator] Milgaard's trial garners much attention, 361 00:15:41,607 --> 00:15:44,193 and over 40 people testify. 362 00:15:44,193 --> 00:15:45,444 (tense music) 363 00:15:45,444 --> 00:15:48,614 - And the Crown kind of gave a general theory 364 00:15:48,614 --> 00:15:51,116 about how this homicide had occurred 365 00:15:51,116 --> 00:15:54,078 and how Milgaard fit into that picture. 366 00:15:54,078 --> 00:15:55,579 You know, the defense, I guess, 367 00:15:55,579 --> 00:15:58,123 tried its best to try to rebut that. 368 00:15:58,123 --> 00:16:02,211 So the jury was just left with this sort of still image. 369 00:16:02,211 --> 00:16:04,254 And once they had that information, 370 00:16:04,254 --> 00:16:05,965 then they were fully on the rails 371 00:16:05,965 --> 00:16:10,427 to go and arrest and prosecute successfully, 372 00:16:10,427 --> 00:16:11,470 and they convicted. 373 00:16:13,222 --> 00:16:16,517 (tense dramatic music) 374 00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:20,896 (gentle music) 375 00:16:23,190 --> 00:16:24,984 (tense dramatic music) 376 00:16:24,984 --> 00:16:28,195 - [Narrator] Late January, 1969, 377 00:16:28,195 --> 00:16:29,697 kids on their way to school 378 00:16:29,697 --> 00:16:32,908 find Gail Miller's body in a snowy alley. 379 00:16:34,326 --> 00:16:36,912 The case looks to be going cold 380 00:16:36,912 --> 00:16:42,126 until a $2,000 reward prompts citizens to come forward. 381 00:16:43,502 --> 00:16:44,962 - Cadrain, the friend that Milgaard had gone to visit, 382 00:16:44,962 --> 00:16:46,588 goes in and implicates Milgaard, 383 00:16:46,588 --> 00:16:48,882 and says that he had seen blood on Milgaard's pants 384 00:16:48,882 --> 00:16:51,468 the morning of the murder, and that changed everything. 385 00:16:51,468 --> 00:16:53,554 - [Narrator] After a series of interrogations 386 00:16:53,554 --> 00:16:56,056 of Milgaard and his friends, 387 00:16:56,056 --> 00:16:58,434 the police have eyewitness testimony 388 00:16:58,434 --> 00:17:00,936 that Milgaard may have been responsible. 389 00:17:00,936 --> 00:17:04,273 - The police got them from, "Nothing happened," 390 00:17:04,273 --> 00:17:07,026 to Wilson implicating Milgaard. 391 00:17:07,026 --> 00:17:09,153 - [Narrator] When Milgaard and two acquaintances 392 00:17:09,153 --> 00:17:11,113 learn of Gail's murder on the news, 393 00:17:11,113 --> 00:17:14,324 Milgaard jokingly acts out that he stabbed her. 394 00:17:14,324 --> 00:17:17,244 - The police start to harden their view 395 00:17:17,244 --> 00:17:19,288 that Cadrain might be correct. 396 00:17:19,288 --> 00:17:23,083 - David Milgaard is convicted exactly one year 397 00:17:23,083 --> 00:17:25,044 after the murder of Gail Miller. 398 00:17:27,463 --> 00:17:30,049 (gentle music) 399 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:33,969 Milgaard spends the next decade in prison 400 00:17:33,969 --> 00:17:37,473 before getting a glimpse of freedom in 1980. 401 00:17:38,515 --> 00:17:40,184 - After he got convicted, 402 00:17:40,184 --> 00:17:41,477 the family was resigned. 403 00:17:41,477 --> 00:17:43,145 Like what are they going to do? 404 00:17:43,145 --> 00:17:46,440 And not a lot happened for many years, 405 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,566 nine years roughly. 406 00:17:47,566 --> 00:17:50,778 Then what happened is David escaped. 407 00:17:50,778 --> 00:17:53,655 (gentle dramatic music) 408 00:17:53,655 --> 00:17:55,407 - [Narrator] After a decade in prison 409 00:17:55,407 --> 00:17:58,077 for a crime he swears he did not commit, 410 00:17:59,244 --> 00:18:01,205 David Milgaard is desperate enough to live 411 00:18:01,205 --> 00:18:03,999 a life on the run if it means his freedom 412 00:18:05,292 --> 00:18:07,503 and not having to go back to prison. 413 00:18:07,503 --> 00:18:09,129 (suspenseful music) 414 00:18:09,129 --> 00:18:11,256 Milgaard is let out on a day pass 415 00:18:11,256 --> 00:18:14,176 to attend a family barbecue in Winnipeg. 416 00:18:14,176 --> 00:18:15,636 - David was on a temporary absence 417 00:18:15,636 --> 00:18:19,348 from the prison and didn't come back, 418 00:18:19,348 --> 00:18:21,642 and he was leading a life in Toronto, 419 00:18:21,642 --> 00:18:24,436 had a girlfriend, and was selling jewelry 420 00:18:24,436 --> 00:18:29,316 and stuff on the street in 1980s era Toronto. 421 00:18:29,316 --> 00:18:31,068 They were obviously looking for him, 422 00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:36,406 and David sensed the presence of law enforcement, 423 00:18:36,990 --> 00:18:38,117 and he ran, 424 00:18:39,159 --> 00:18:40,369 and he got shot. 425 00:18:40,369 --> 00:18:42,496 (gunfire blasting) 426 00:18:42,496 --> 00:18:43,413 (heartbeat pulsating) 427 00:18:43,413 --> 00:18:44,790 (somber music) 428 00:18:44,790 --> 00:18:46,458 - [Narrator] His mother Joyce 429 00:18:46,458 --> 00:18:48,877 is immediately by his side at the hospital. 430 00:18:48,877 --> 00:18:50,504 - When he was in the hospital, 431 00:18:50,504 --> 00:18:53,006 Joyce decided that she had to do something, 432 00:18:53,006 --> 00:18:58,428 and so in 1980, she said, "I'm not going to wait." 433 00:18:59,471 --> 00:19:00,513 They'd tried to get lawyers. 434 00:19:00,513 --> 00:19:02,641 They'd tried to get some help. 435 00:19:02,641 --> 00:19:05,769 - [Narrator] Milgaard's desperate attempts to be free 436 00:19:05,769 --> 00:19:07,855 has led not only to him being shot, 437 00:19:07,855 --> 00:19:09,523 but a mother's resolve to prove that 438 00:19:09,523 --> 00:19:12,526 the Saskatoon Police really did have it wrong. 439 00:19:13,777 --> 00:19:15,571 Basing the case on loose timelines, 440 00:19:15,571 --> 00:19:19,366 flawed interrogations, and unreliable tips, 441 00:19:19,366 --> 00:19:22,327 David's conviction, being one of tunnel vision, 442 00:19:22,327 --> 00:19:24,830 and a system that clearly was wrong. 443 00:19:24,830 --> 00:19:26,415 - Nobody was interested, 444 00:19:26,415 --> 00:19:29,376 "in something he didn't do," as the lyric goes. 445 00:19:29,376 --> 00:19:30,502 And then she took it on herself. 446 00:19:30,502 --> 00:19:31,879 And so she posted. 447 00:19:31,879 --> 00:19:33,422 She put up a reward, 448 00:19:33,422 --> 00:19:36,008 and posted the reward all through Saskatoon 449 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:38,886 saying, "Anybody who has any information tell me." 450 00:19:38,886 --> 00:19:40,596 (gentle music) 451 00:19:40,596 --> 00:19:45,767 My first week at work was the week of March 3, 1986. 452 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,395 Day three, the Wednesday, 453 00:19:48,395 --> 00:19:51,023 was when we met Joyce Milgaard, 454 00:19:51,023 --> 00:19:53,817 and in walks Mrs. Milgaard, and my boss, 455 00:19:53,817 --> 00:19:56,945 Hersh Wolsh, hauls me out of the hallway, 456 00:19:56,945 --> 00:19:59,907 and says, "Asper, get in here," 457 00:19:59,907 --> 00:20:03,869 and introduces me to Mrs. Milgaard. 458 00:20:03,869 --> 00:20:06,788 She's pointing her finger on the desk, 459 00:20:06,788 --> 00:20:08,790 and going, "My son is innocent." 460 00:20:08,790 --> 00:20:10,250 He had 17 years in at the time. 461 00:20:10,250 --> 00:20:13,795 She says, "You need to do something about it." 462 00:20:13,795 --> 00:20:15,380 (gentle music) 463 00:20:15,380 --> 00:20:17,090 - [Narrator] Joyce tells David Asper 464 00:20:17,090 --> 00:20:19,218 about what her son has gone through, 465 00:20:20,636 --> 00:20:22,721 the trip that led to his arrest, 466 00:20:22,721 --> 00:20:26,642 the interrogations, and his conviction. 467 00:20:26,642 --> 00:20:28,685 - When Mrs. Milgaard first came to see us, 468 00:20:28,685 --> 00:20:32,648 she gave us bags and boxes of documents, 469 00:20:32,648 --> 00:20:33,815 and there were sort of two piles. 470 00:20:33,815 --> 00:20:36,984 One pile was his life in prison, 471 00:20:36,984 --> 00:20:38,612 and the second was all the trial 472 00:20:38,612 --> 00:20:41,406 and sort of all the court stuff. 473 00:20:41,406 --> 00:20:43,325 And I didn't know where to start. 474 00:20:43,325 --> 00:20:45,661 And I started with his life in prison. 475 00:20:45,661 --> 00:20:48,830 It still affects me to this day 476 00:20:48,830 --> 00:20:50,832 to have read through the words 477 00:20:50,832 --> 00:20:53,835 of Corrections Canada describing 478 00:20:53,835 --> 00:20:56,922 a somewhat scattered 17-year-old kid 479 00:20:56,922 --> 00:20:59,883 gets sucked up into that system and not do well, 480 00:20:59,883 --> 00:21:03,262 which understates what his experience was. 481 00:21:05,806 --> 00:21:07,808 - [Narrator] David Asper travels to prison 482 00:21:07,808 --> 00:21:09,142 to meet with David Milgaard. 483 00:21:09,142 --> 00:21:10,644 (dramatic music) 484 00:21:10,644 --> 00:21:12,938 - I was actually shocked when I met him, 485 00:21:12,938 --> 00:21:16,817 because on paper you read this whole 486 00:21:16,817 --> 00:21:20,612 horrible story of his incarceration, 487 00:21:20,612 --> 00:21:23,282 and you're not sure what you're going to get. 488 00:21:24,449 --> 00:21:29,288 And in popped this very affable, friendly, 489 00:21:30,163 --> 00:21:31,248 very engaging human being. 490 00:21:31,248 --> 00:21:32,916 And I was really surprised. 491 00:21:32,916 --> 00:21:35,794 It's one of the most enduring things 492 00:21:35,794 --> 00:21:38,672 that people should understand about him 493 00:21:38,672 --> 00:21:42,009 is that, he would say it quite openly, 494 00:21:42,009 --> 00:21:45,304 the system took him, but it didn't own him. 495 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,598 It owned him maybe for a little while, 496 00:21:48,598 --> 00:21:50,934 and then once he got on his feet, 497 00:21:50,934 --> 00:21:52,060 it didn't own him. 498 00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:53,770 Wouldn't let them. 499 00:21:53,770 --> 00:21:56,523 - [Narrator] David Asper has a lot of work ahead of him, 500 00:21:56,523 --> 00:21:59,693 but after seeing David Milgaard's resilient attitude 501 00:21:59,693 --> 00:22:01,987 and his mother Joyce's dedication, 502 00:22:01,987 --> 00:22:05,032 he's motivated to prove Millard's innocence. 503 00:22:06,407 --> 00:22:07,367 (pensive music) 504 00:22:07,367 --> 00:22:08,785 Back in Winnipeg, 505 00:22:08,785 --> 00:22:11,288 David Asper continues to build his case. 506 00:22:11,288 --> 00:22:12,830 - I mean, the first thing I did 507 00:22:12,830 --> 00:22:14,875 when I began my representation of David 508 00:22:14,875 --> 00:22:16,335 was I read the trial transcript, 509 00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:18,587 and I could see, on its surface, 510 00:22:18,587 --> 00:22:21,673 I could see how he could have been convicted. 511 00:22:21,673 --> 00:22:23,175 I can see that, and I said to him, 512 00:22:23,175 --> 00:22:24,968 "Okay, tell me why. 513 00:22:24,968 --> 00:22:26,845 "You know, tell me what's wrong here." 514 00:22:26,845 --> 00:22:30,098 Whether you say that it was an illegal 515 00:22:30,098 --> 00:22:33,435 or an overbearing interrogation, 516 00:22:33,435 --> 00:22:35,061 isn't really the point. 517 00:22:35,061 --> 00:22:38,106 The point is that it had enough pressure 518 00:22:38,106 --> 00:22:40,817 that two young kids went from, "Nothing happened," 519 00:22:40,817 --> 00:22:43,820 to becoming the core of the Crown's case 520 00:22:43,820 --> 00:22:44,821 against David Milgaard. 521 00:22:44,821 --> 00:22:46,156 And how did that happen? 522 00:22:46,156 --> 00:22:48,909 And we know there were questionable techniques. 523 00:22:48,909 --> 00:22:52,996 The police brought in a polygraph examiner 524 00:22:52,996 --> 00:22:55,123 to work on Ron Wilson. 525 00:22:55,123 --> 00:22:58,752 And you can see in some of the police documents 526 00:22:58,752 --> 00:23:01,838 where they were clearly of a view that either 527 00:23:01,838 --> 00:23:05,008 Wilson was a witness or he was involved. 528 00:23:05,008 --> 00:23:06,802 Okay, what does that mean? 529 00:23:06,802 --> 00:23:09,012 So now it means that the police are saying to Wilson, 530 00:23:09,012 --> 00:23:12,724 "You're either a co-killer with Milgaard or you're innocent 531 00:23:12,724 --> 00:23:15,102 "and maybe you have some evidence for us. 532 00:23:15,102 --> 00:23:16,853 "What's it going to be?" 533 00:23:16,853 --> 00:23:18,897 - Sometimes when involved in an interrogation, 534 00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:21,273 more needs to be done than simply asking a question 535 00:23:21,273 --> 00:23:22,818 and getting the truthful answer. 536 00:23:22,818 --> 00:23:24,569 But the fact of the matter is, 537 00:23:24,569 --> 00:23:27,114 using scare tactics and twisting the words of children 538 00:23:27,114 --> 00:23:29,366 is not going to be good police interrogation 539 00:23:29,366 --> 00:23:32,119 no matter what the ultimate conclusion is. 540 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,122 - It's a reworking of a universal lie 541 00:23:35,122 --> 00:23:37,124 that's known in polygraph, which is, 542 00:23:37,124 --> 00:23:39,417 if I ask you, "Have you ever hurt anybody?" 543 00:23:39,417 --> 00:23:40,919 If you say no, 544 00:23:40,919 --> 00:23:42,963 that's probably not a credible answer. 545 00:23:42,963 --> 00:23:44,297 If you say yes, 546 00:23:44,297 --> 00:23:46,007 I'm going to use it to say, 547 00:23:46,007 --> 00:23:47,551 "Well, if you hurt somebody before, 548 00:23:47,551 --> 00:23:52,431 "maybe you hurt somebody in the back alley in Saskatoon." 549 00:23:54,057 --> 00:23:56,435 I don't think police want to get the wrong person, 550 00:23:56,435 --> 00:24:00,272 but there's this psychological switch that clicks 551 00:24:00,272 --> 00:24:05,318 without malice where the mindset completely changes, 552 00:24:05,318 --> 00:24:09,281 and then everything becomes about sort of fulfilling 553 00:24:09,281 --> 00:24:13,952 that theory of the case to the exclusion of everything else. 554 00:24:13,952 --> 00:24:15,704 And that's what happened here. 555 00:24:18,205 --> 00:24:19,666 (gentle dramatic music) 556 00:24:19,666 --> 00:24:21,167 - [Narrator] A key piece of evidence 557 00:24:21,167 --> 00:24:22,419 in David Milgaard's trial 558 00:24:22,419 --> 00:24:25,547 was the testimony citing his alleged reenactment 559 00:24:25,547 --> 00:24:28,008 of the murder in a motel room. 560 00:24:28,008 --> 00:24:31,011 But the moment is called into question. 561 00:24:31,011 --> 00:24:32,345 If it happened at all, 562 00:24:32,345 --> 00:24:35,474 it appears to have been teenagers joking around. 563 00:24:36,892 --> 00:24:40,061 - That evidence came out of the blue for the Crown attorney, 564 00:24:40,061 --> 00:24:43,023 where Milgaard supposedly reenacted the murder. 565 00:24:43,023 --> 00:24:45,609 It came from two people charged with robberies, 566 00:24:45,609 --> 00:24:48,487 who got stunningly low sentences 567 00:24:48,487 --> 00:24:51,198 for pleading guilty to those robberies. 568 00:24:52,032 --> 00:24:53,992 - [Narrator] These are the same two people 569 00:24:53,992 --> 00:24:57,204 Ron Wilson mentions to police, Lapchuk and Melnyk. 570 00:24:58,371 --> 00:25:00,290 - It was early in the case, and I had a witness. 571 00:25:00,290 --> 00:25:04,127 We had a witness whose evidence initially was, 572 00:25:04,127 --> 00:25:05,462 "No, that never happened." 573 00:25:05,462 --> 00:25:06,922 And then it evolved, 574 00:25:06,922 --> 00:25:08,423 "And maybe it did happen, 575 00:25:08,423 --> 00:25:10,133 "but it was all a joke." 576 00:25:10,133 --> 00:25:12,427 By this point, Milgaard had been questioned 577 00:25:12,427 --> 00:25:17,182 and whatever happened in there is sort of irrelevant 578 00:25:17,182 --> 00:25:19,518 because he didn't commit the crime. 579 00:25:20,602 --> 00:25:22,729 To this day, I think the one thing 580 00:25:22,729 --> 00:25:24,564 the jury didn't have the benefit 581 00:25:24,564 --> 00:25:26,441 of understanding or seeing, 582 00:25:26,441 --> 00:25:30,111 which is that if you take what the Crown said happened 583 00:25:30,111 --> 00:25:33,490 and you locate everybody, it's not a diorama. 584 00:25:33,490 --> 00:25:35,867 It's not like a frozen image. 585 00:25:35,867 --> 00:25:36,952 It's dynamic. 586 00:25:36,952 --> 00:25:38,578 And when we took 587 00:25:38,578 --> 00:25:42,207 what the Crown said happened on its face 588 00:25:42,207 --> 00:25:45,669 and set it in motion, it made no sense. 589 00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:47,087 (dramatic music) 590 00:25:47,087 --> 00:25:49,422 And so I took my own little VHS camera, 591 00:25:49,422 --> 00:25:52,217 and I went myself. 592 00:25:52,217 --> 00:25:53,468 I did all the walking. 593 00:25:53,468 --> 00:25:56,638 I did all the movement and timed it. 594 00:25:56,638 --> 00:26:00,016 And when I did that and videotaped it, 595 00:26:00,016 --> 00:26:02,352 it just hit me like, "Holy smokes, 596 00:26:02,352 --> 00:26:04,563 "like there's no chance any of this happened 597 00:26:04,563 --> 00:26:06,690 "the way it was portrayed for the jury." 598 00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:08,400 Okay, it didn't happen that way. 599 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,818 It couldn't have happened that way. 600 00:26:09,818 --> 00:26:11,653 That's when I kind of knew that 601 00:26:11,653 --> 00:26:14,030 there was something seriously wrong here. 602 00:26:15,407 --> 00:26:17,450 - [Narrator] Lawyer David Asper and Joyce Milgaard 603 00:26:17,450 --> 00:26:20,704 are certain that David did not kill Gail Miller, 604 00:26:20,704 --> 00:26:23,790 but the question then remains, who did? 605 00:26:24,958 --> 00:26:28,503 (tense dramatic music) 606 00:26:29,838 --> 00:26:32,674 (gentle music) 607 00:26:34,843 --> 00:26:38,013 (dramatic music) 608 00:26:38,930 --> 00:26:40,307 Gail Miller is found dead 609 00:26:40,307 --> 00:26:42,892 on a winter morning in 1969. 610 00:26:43,810 --> 00:26:45,353 Exactly one year later, 611 00:26:45,353 --> 00:26:48,982 David Milgaard is convicted for her murder. 612 00:26:48,982 --> 00:26:51,401 David Asper is brought onto the case 613 00:26:51,401 --> 00:26:55,071 by David Milgaard's mother in hopes of freeing her son. 614 00:26:55,071 --> 00:26:57,741 - My first week at work, day three, 615 00:26:57,741 --> 00:27:00,035 was when we met Joyce Milgaard. 616 00:27:00,035 --> 00:27:01,161 (dramatic music) 617 00:27:01,161 --> 00:27:02,871 - [Narrator] And going over the evidence, 618 00:27:02,871 --> 00:27:05,498 reveals holes in the original court case, 619 00:27:05,498 --> 00:27:08,376 including questionable tactics that were 620 00:27:08,376 --> 00:27:12,088 put to use when witnesses were being interrogated. 621 00:27:12,088 --> 00:27:14,049 - It had enough pressure 622 00:27:14,049 --> 00:27:15,508 that two young kids went from, 623 00:27:15,508 --> 00:27:18,511 "Nothing happened," to becoming the core 624 00:27:18,511 --> 00:27:20,972 of the Crown's case against David Milgaard. 625 00:27:22,349 --> 00:27:24,059 - [Narrator] But just believing David is innocent 626 00:27:24,059 --> 00:27:26,686 isn't enough to get him out of prison, 627 00:27:26,686 --> 00:27:28,688 and no one is working harder to prove 628 00:27:28,688 --> 00:27:31,775 his innocence than his mother Joyce. 629 00:27:33,193 --> 00:27:35,820 Since Milgaard was put behind bars, 630 00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:37,656 his mother Joyce has been leading 631 00:27:37,656 --> 00:27:39,657 the charge to free her son. 632 00:27:39,657 --> 00:27:40,950 - And she was relentless. 633 00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:42,994 She was analytical. 634 00:27:42,994 --> 00:27:44,746 I don't know there was ever a moment 635 00:27:44,746 --> 00:27:47,457 where she wasn't focused on getting David out of jail 636 00:27:47,457 --> 00:27:49,542 and get getting this whole thing undone. 637 00:27:49,542 --> 00:27:54,964 And they believed from day one that he was innocent. 638 00:27:55,632 --> 00:27:57,008 (gentle music) 639 00:27:57,008 --> 00:27:58,468 - [Narrator] Their strategy changes 640 00:27:58,468 --> 00:28:00,595 from trying to just prove David's innocence 641 00:28:00,595 --> 00:28:03,181 to trying to find another suspect. 642 00:28:03,181 --> 00:28:04,683 (gentle dramatic music) 643 00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:07,811 A big break finally comes when Asper and Joyce 644 00:28:07,811 --> 00:28:11,648 get a tip about a man named Larry Fisher. 645 00:28:11,648 --> 00:28:13,650 (sinister music) 646 00:28:13,650 --> 00:28:15,568 - We'd been taking all these steps, 647 00:28:15,568 --> 00:28:17,278 and we initiated contact with 648 00:28:17,278 --> 00:28:18,988 the Federal Department of Justice. 649 00:28:18,988 --> 00:28:20,573 (gentle dramatic music) 650 00:28:20,573 --> 00:28:24,119 And then out of the blue one day we got a tip, 651 00:28:25,412 --> 00:28:29,541 and credit to Joyce because as soon as we heard the name, 652 00:28:29,541 --> 00:28:33,336 she remembered seeing that name buried in the reports 653 00:28:33,336 --> 00:28:36,256 when police were canvassing the neighborhood. 654 00:28:36,256 --> 00:28:37,590 Sure enough, we went back. 655 00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:39,217 We're looking at all the handwritten notes 656 00:28:39,217 --> 00:28:40,677 from the police officers, 657 00:28:40,677 --> 00:28:43,763 and there it is, February 4, 1969, 658 00:28:43,763 --> 00:28:45,932 police talked to Larry Fisher 659 00:28:45,932 --> 00:28:49,102 at the same bus stop that Gail Miller took to work. 660 00:28:52,731 --> 00:28:55,400 (gentle music) 661 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,026 - [Narrator] At the time of the murder, 662 00:28:57,026 --> 00:28:59,654 Larry Fisher wasn't a suspect. 663 00:28:59,654 --> 00:29:01,072 He was only questioned 664 00:29:01,072 --> 00:29:03,199 as to whether he had witnessed anything. 665 00:29:03,199 --> 00:29:05,160 However, he did give the police 666 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,454 one interesting piece of information. 667 00:29:08,788 --> 00:29:11,833 - And he gave his address the same address as the home 668 00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:14,377 that Milgaard visited that morning. 669 00:29:14,377 --> 00:29:16,004 - [Narrator] There's a strange connection 670 00:29:16,004 --> 00:29:17,964 in the house that Fisher lives at. 671 00:29:17,964 --> 00:29:23,011 He also regularly waits at the same bus stop as Gail Miller. 672 00:29:23,011 --> 00:29:24,512 - We got the tip, 673 00:29:24,512 --> 00:29:27,098 and we had to go and do our own investigation. 674 00:29:27,098 --> 00:29:30,435 The Department of Justice assigned the RCMP to it, 675 00:29:30,435 --> 00:29:32,729 and they certainly didn't produce 676 00:29:32,729 --> 00:29:34,689 what we ultimately produced. 677 00:29:36,065 --> 00:29:37,692 - [Narrator] Larry Fisher is in and out of prison 678 00:29:37,692 --> 00:29:41,196 throughout the 1970s and 80s for sexual assault 679 00:29:41,196 --> 00:29:42,489 and attempted murder. 680 00:29:43,281 --> 00:29:45,450 For all intensive purposes, 681 00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:49,788 his MO seems to match what happened to Gail Miller. 682 00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:51,498 (gentle dramatic music) 683 00:29:51,498 --> 00:29:56,085 - When we prepared the chart of Larry Fisher's crimes, 684 00:29:57,629 --> 00:30:01,883 we had sought outside advice from very, very wise lawyers. 685 00:30:03,551 --> 00:30:05,136 We were confident that you could actually prosecute 686 00:30:05,136 --> 00:30:07,639 Larry Fisher on the basis of what's known in law 687 00:30:07,639 --> 00:30:12,852 as similar fact evidence where somebody's MO is so unique 688 00:30:14,103 --> 00:30:16,648 and so consistent that you can show previous incidents 689 00:30:16,648 --> 00:30:20,485 to prove something that he did that he's accused of now. 690 00:30:21,611 --> 00:30:23,321 So we believed that we could show, 691 00:30:23,321 --> 00:30:25,698 based on the whole pattern of Fisher's activity, 692 00:30:25,698 --> 00:30:28,201 that he had murdered Gail Miller. 693 00:30:28,201 --> 00:30:30,829 And we went public in a way. 694 00:30:30,829 --> 00:30:32,997 We were on every talk show, 695 00:30:32,997 --> 00:30:35,208 TV, radio, coast to coast. 696 00:30:35,208 --> 00:30:36,835 (gentle dramatic music) 697 00:30:36,835 --> 00:30:39,212 - [Narrator] Taking it even further in front of the media, 698 00:30:39,212 --> 00:30:42,382 Joyce approaches Justice Minister Kim Campbell, 699 00:30:42,382 --> 00:30:43,341 Campbell being the head of the 700 00:30:43,341 --> 00:30:45,635 Department of Justice of Canada. 701 00:30:45,635 --> 00:30:47,679 - I'd just like to give you this. 702 00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:49,806 - Madam, if you want your son to have a fair hearing, 703 00:30:49,806 --> 00:30:51,724 don't approach me personally, I'm sorry. 704 00:30:51,724 --> 00:30:54,435 - Kim Campbell was coming out of an elevator, 705 00:30:54,435 --> 00:30:58,356 and Joyce had set up all the media cameras. 706 00:30:58,356 --> 00:30:59,941 When the Minister of Justice 707 00:30:59,941 --> 00:31:01,526 was coming out of the elevator 708 00:31:01,526 --> 00:31:03,361 and there was Joyce standing there 709 00:31:03,361 --> 00:31:04,737 with a binder of materials, 710 00:31:04,737 --> 00:31:06,114 she said, "Please, Minister. 711 00:31:06,114 --> 00:31:09,325 "Please, will you talk to me about my son?" 712 00:31:09,325 --> 00:31:12,370 And she just blew her off, 713 00:31:12,370 --> 00:31:13,830 and walked right by. 714 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:16,291 And all the cameras were rolling, 715 00:31:16,291 --> 00:31:18,084 and it just looked heartless. 716 00:31:18,084 --> 00:31:19,752 And it was on the national news, 717 00:31:19,752 --> 00:31:24,382 and it was a huge story, and it triggered, 718 00:31:24,382 --> 00:31:27,385 like I've never seen at any other point in that case, 719 00:31:27,385 --> 00:31:30,263 because it was the Minister of Justice 720 00:31:30,263 --> 00:31:32,265 not even having the courtesy, 721 00:31:32,265 --> 00:31:35,143 regardless of the substance of what she should see, 722 00:31:35,143 --> 00:31:37,020 just blew right by Joyce. 723 00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:39,731 (dramatic music) 724 00:31:39,731 --> 00:31:44,360 I honestly believed that we would do our work. 725 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,737 We would summarize the case, 726 00:31:45,737 --> 00:31:49,198 and we would contact the Department of Justice. 727 00:31:49,198 --> 00:31:50,658 And we would link arms 728 00:31:51,826 --> 00:31:55,371 and march together to get justice. 729 00:31:55,371 --> 00:31:57,999 When I could see that, 730 00:31:57,999 --> 00:31:59,584 that wasn't going to happen, 731 00:31:59,584 --> 00:32:01,377 and not only was it not going to happen, 732 00:32:01,377 --> 00:32:05,757 but that the attitude of the system was adversarial 733 00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:10,261 to the idea, just to the very idea, 734 00:32:10,261 --> 00:32:12,555 that there could be a wrongful conviction, 735 00:32:12,555 --> 00:32:16,267 I was pretty resolute that I was not, 736 00:32:16,267 --> 00:32:20,146 I was invested in not letting the system 737 00:32:20,146 --> 00:32:23,358 once again grind down the Milgaards. 738 00:32:23,358 --> 00:32:24,859 (gentle music) 739 00:32:24,859 --> 00:32:26,444 - [Narrator] David Asper and the Milgaards 740 00:32:26,444 --> 00:32:28,988 are continually disappointed by the justice system 741 00:32:28,988 --> 00:32:33,117 after their first wrongful conviction review is dismissed, 742 00:32:33,117 --> 00:32:34,410 but they don't give up. 743 00:32:35,328 --> 00:32:36,955 - When we got turned down, 744 00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:39,582 I had to go tell David in the prison. 745 00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:42,418 At the time they'd put him in the hole, 746 00:32:42,418 --> 00:32:45,713 which is administrative segregation 747 00:32:45,713 --> 00:32:49,342 or dissociation for he was behaving badly, 748 00:32:49,342 --> 00:32:52,095 and he was not in a good state mentally. 749 00:32:52,095 --> 00:32:54,180 And he gave me a pep talk. 750 00:32:54,180 --> 00:32:55,139 Like I was the one. 751 00:32:55,139 --> 00:32:57,308 I was seriously upset. 752 00:32:57,308 --> 00:32:59,352 And he said, "Okay, we got to try harder. 753 00:32:59,352 --> 00:33:01,020 "Keep going." 754 00:33:01,020 --> 00:33:02,522 And he gave me the "Buck up, little soldier" speech. 755 00:33:02,522 --> 00:33:04,524 Joyce was all over it, and we said, 756 00:33:04,524 --> 00:33:06,484 "Okay, if we'd been fighting a little bit 757 00:33:06,484 --> 00:33:08,820 "with the Federal Department of Justice up to that point, 758 00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:11,447 "we're going to take it up to volume 12." 759 00:33:11,447 --> 00:33:13,032 (tense dramatic music) 760 00:33:13,032 --> 00:33:16,494 I was invested in not letting the system 761 00:33:16,494 --> 00:33:19,706 once again grind down the Milgaards. 762 00:33:19,706 --> 00:33:22,083 It did in the original proceedings. 763 00:33:22,083 --> 00:33:25,545 It did because nobody would touch them or talk to them 764 00:33:25,545 --> 00:33:28,047 through the 70s or the 80s 765 00:33:28,047 --> 00:33:30,299 until the mid-80s when we got involved. 766 00:33:30,299 --> 00:33:32,260 And I just wasn't going to let that happen. 767 00:33:32,260 --> 00:33:36,431 We got mail from people all across the country, 768 00:33:36,431 --> 00:33:40,059 not so much declaring Milgaard's innocence, 769 00:33:40,059 --> 00:33:42,979 but who had concluded that there was enough 770 00:33:42,979 --> 00:33:46,524 that a court had to have another look at this. 771 00:33:46,524 --> 00:33:48,693 It was heartwarming because I remember I got 772 00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:52,363 a particularly poignant letter from a veteran 773 00:33:52,363 --> 00:33:57,744 who equated this battle with democratic principles 774 00:33:58,786 --> 00:34:01,664 of justice and fairness and what was the war for 775 00:34:01,664 --> 00:34:04,417 if the system's going to build such a wall 776 00:34:04,417 --> 00:34:06,544 to protect itself from people 777 00:34:06,544 --> 00:34:07,795 who it might have hurt. 778 00:34:07,795 --> 00:34:10,715 (suspenseful music) 779 00:34:10,715 --> 00:34:13,342 - [Narrator] Being let down at every other step, 780 00:34:13,342 --> 00:34:16,094 Joyce goes all the way to the top and speaks 781 00:34:16,094 --> 00:34:20,558 to the Prime Minister of Canada, Brian Mulroney. 782 00:34:20,558 --> 00:34:21,601 - A little while later, 783 00:34:21,601 --> 00:34:25,980 when the Prime Minister Mulroney's in town, 784 00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:29,192 and he pulls up and his motorcade pulls up to a hotel, 785 00:34:29,192 --> 00:34:31,486 it's lots of security and the media cameras are all there 786 00:34:31,486 --> 00:34:36,074 and Joyce is there and he walked straight over to Joyce, 787 00:34:37,158 --> 00:34:38,659 and he expressed concern for her. 788 00:34:38,659 --> 00:34:41,579 And I hear he talks about hearing 789 00:34:41,579 --> 00:34:43,581 how David is struggling in the prison, 790 00:34:43,581 --> 00:34:45,541 "And I know the Department of Justice 791 00:34:45,541 --> 00:34:46,918 "is looking hard at your case." 792 00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:48,460 He's warm. 793 00:34:48,460 --> 00:34:50,421 He's the opposite of Kim Campbell. 794 00:34:50,421 --> 00:34:52,632 And then things started to happen, 795 00:34:52,632 --> 00:34:54,425 and all of a sudden we were given 796 00:34:54,425 --> 00:34:56,594 a reference to the Supreme Court of Canada, 797 00:34:56,594 --> 00:34:58,471 and then we got to have our say, 798 00:34:58,471 --> 00:35:00,473 and the conviction was overturned. 799 00:35:00,473 --> 00:35:03,643 (dramatic music) 800 00:35:04,893 --> 00:35:06,979 - [Narrator] After more than 22 years in prison 801 00:35:06,979 --> 00:35:09,107 for a crime he did not commit, 802 00:35:09,107 --> 00:35:11,651 David Milgaard is free. 803 00:35:13,152 --> 00:35:16,739 - It was the first day of Passover, April 16, 1992. 804 00:35:16,739 --> 00:35:18,908 Passover, of course, is the celebration, 805 00:35:18,908 --> 00:35:21,744 the Jewish celebration of the exodus from Egypt 806 00:35:21,744 --> 00:35:23,871 from Pharaoh, from the evil Pharaoh, 807 00:35:23,871 --> 00:35:28,751 And I will never forget going to our family Seder, 808 00:35:28,751 --> 00:35:31,212 our Passover dinner that night having 809 00:35:31,212 --> 00:35:33,131 achieved exodus for David Milgaard. 810 00:35:36,926 --> 00:35:38,719 (eerie ominous music) 811 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,681 - [Narrator] With David Milgaard set free, 812 00:35:41,681 --> 00:35:43,641 the media attention on the case 813 00:35:43,641 --> 00:35:47,520 forces Gail Miller's family to live through it all again 814 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,190 and wonder if her killer will ever be brought to justice. 815 00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:57,655 (tense dramatic music) 816 00:35:59,073 --> 00:36:01,909 (gentle music) 817 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,913 (dramatic music) 818 00:36:05,913 --> 00:36:08,875 In 1969, the body of Gail Miller 819 00:36:08,875 --> 00:36:12,670 is found in a snowy alleyway in Saskatoon 820 00:36:12,670 --> 00:36:13,963 after being murdered. 821 00:36:14,881 --> 00:36:17,717 A year-long case leads to the conviction 822 00:36:17,717 --> 00:36:20,761 and imprisonment of David Milgaard. 823 00:36:20,761 --> 00:36:22,597 (dramatic music) 824 00:36:22,597 --> 00:36:24,599 But his family spends the next 825 00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:27,393 22 years proving his innocence 826 00:36:27,393 --> 00:36:30,521 and getting his conviction eventually overturned. 827 00:36:30,521 --> 00:36:33,608 - We were given a reference to the Supreme Court of Canada, 828 00:36:33,608 --> 00:36:35,484 and then we got to have our say, 829 00:36:35,484 --> 00:36:37,361 and the conviction was overturned. 830 00:36:38,654 --> 00:36:40,698 - [Narrator] But even with David released, 831 00:36:40,698 --> 00:36:44,202 there is still the matter of Gail Miller's real killer. 832 00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:45,786 (dramatic music) 833 00:36:45,786 --> 00:36:47,663 Her murder follows the same patterns 834 00:36:47,663 --> 00:36:51,459 of similar crimes around Saskatoon at the time, 835 00:36:51,459 --> 00:36:53,920 and the whole time David is locked away, 836 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,589 Larry Fisher is in and out of prison 837 00:36:56,589 --> 00:36:58,216 for the same types of crimes. 838 00:37:00,968 --> 00:37:02,011 (gentle music) 839 00:37:02,011 --> 00:37:03,846 Now that David Milgaard is free, 840 00:37:03,846 --> 00:37:06,015 his lawyers must expose Gail Miller's 841 00:37:06,015 --> 00:37:09,060 real killer to exonerate Milgaard. 842 00:37:09,060 --> 00:37:11,938 - They said that the fresh evidence 843 00:37:11,938 --> 00:37:14,232 of Larry Fisher mattered, 844 00:37:14,232 --> 00:37:15,775 and don't forget. 845 00:37:15,775 --> 00:37:18,444 Larry Fisher testified at the Supreme Court, 846 00:37:18,444 --> 00:37:19,946 and we prepared. 847 00:37:19,946 --> 00:37:22,448 Hersh Wolsh and I, prepared for Larry Fisher. 848 00:37:22,448 --> 00:37:26,869 And Hersh did an amazing job of getting Fisher to actually 849 00:37:26,869 --> 00:37:29,622 walk through every single one of his crimes 850 00:37:29,622 --> 00:37:31,998 and was actually correcting us on things 851 00:37:31,998 --> 00:37:33,918 that we might have missed, 852 00:37:33,918 --> 00:37:38,589 but in correcting us was actually bolstering the profile. 853 00:37:38,589 --> 00:37:41,509 - While the technology wasn't what it is today, 854 00:37:41,509 --> 00:37:44,262 they were still taking DNA evidence 855 00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:47,223 found at the scene back in the 60s. 856 00:37:47,223 --> 00:37:49,058 Having a suspect to test 857 00:37:49,058 --> 00:37:51,811 that evidence against years later, 858 00:37:51,811 --> 00:37:55,147 can be a nail in the coffin on a cold case. 859 00:37:55,856 --> 00:37:57,483 (dramatic music) 860 00:37:57,483 --> 00:37:59,819 - [Narrator] Semen found at the scene of Gail Miller's 861 00:37:59,819 --> 00:38:03,906 murder is tested against Larry Fisher's DNA, 862 00:38:03,906 --> 00:38:07,243 and it connects him directly to the crime. 863 00:38:07,243 --> 00:38:08,536 (dramatic music) 864 00:38:08,536 --> 00:38:09,829 - And guess what? 865 00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:11,998 When they finally had the DNA 866 00:38:11,998 --> 00:38:16,585 sophistication or technology to read the semen samples, 867 00:38:16,585 --> 00:38:18,004 Larry Fisher did it. 868 00:38:18,004 --> 00:38:20,881 Everybody except the Minister of Justice knew that, 869 00:38:20,881 --> 00:38:22,967 and then he was convicted. 870 00:38:22,967 --> 00:38:24,635 (dramatic music) 871 00:38:24,635 --> 00:38:26,679 - [Narrator] In proving David Milgaard's innocence, 872 00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:29,806 David Asper talks to other victims of Larry Fisher. 873 00:38:29,806 --> 00:38:33,768 His victims go beyond the scope of the Gail Miller case. 874 00:38:33,768 --> 00:38:37,064 - Just remember like you've got Gail Miller murdered. 875 00:38:37,857 --> 00:38:40,026 You can't talk to Gail Miller. 876 00:38:40,026 --> 00:38:43,237 Who I did talk to was the one he nearly murdered, 877 00:38:43,237 --> 00:38:44,739 (dramatic music) 878 00:38:44,739 --> 00:38:49,452 and literally she's got a scar from ear to ear 879 00:38:49,452 --> 00:38:53,664 of where he slit her throat while he was attacking her. 880 00:38:53,664 --> 00:38:55,248 It leaves a pretty lasting impression 881 00:38:55,248 --> 00:38:57,460 about the person who did that to her. 882 00:38:58,669 --> 00:38:59,962 Like monster, 883 00:38:59,962 --> 00:39:01,964 monster's just a word. 884 00:39:01,964 --> 00:39:03,883 It's beyond monster. 885 00:39:03,883 --> 00:39:05,051 (dramatic music) 886 00:39:05,051 --> 00:39:07,428 - [Narrator] In June, 2015, 887 00:39:07,428 --> 00:39:11,015 Larry Earl Fisher dies in a prison hospital. 888 00:39:11,015 --> 00:39:12,892 - There's multiple victims. 889 00:39:12,892 --> 00:39:14,435 There's Gail Miller. 890 00:39:14,435 --> 00:39:15,811 There's the earlier victims 891 00:39:15,811 --> 00:39:17,438 who never got their closure. 892 00:39:17,438 --> 00:39:19,648 There's the subsequent victims. 893 00:39:19,648 --> 00:39:21,067 Milgaard is a victim, 894 00:39:21,067 --> 00:39:23,027 individually, David is. 895 00:39:24,027 --> 00:39:25,696 - [Narrator] Because the police choose 896 00:39:25,696 --> 00:39:27,907 to focus all of their attention on facts 897 00:39:27,907 --> 00:39:31,077 to fit the story as they thought it happened, 898 00:39:31,077 --> 00:39:33,996 David becomes another victim in the situation 899 00:39:33,996 --> 00:39:35,581 while Larry Fisher's other crimes 900 00:39:35,581 --> 00:39:39,168 at the time remained unsolved. 901 00:39:39,168 --> 00:39:40,960 (somber music) 902 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,380 - It's so bad. 903 00:39:43,005 --> 00:39:45,174 When the system fails like this, 904 00:39:45,174 --> 00:39:48,135 it's just so bad on so many fronts. 905 00:39:48,135 --> 00:39:51,972 I am certain that I cannot imagine, 906 00:39:51,972 --> 00:39:54,016 I've read, but I can't imagine 907 00:39:54,016 --> 00:39:56,811 what it must have been like for David in prison. 908 00:39:58,187 --> 00:40:01,190 I can't imagine what it's like to have a child, 909 00:40:01,190 --> 00:40:02,608 a sibling murdered. 910 00:40:04,235 --> 00:40:05,861 Like you can't imagine that. 911 00:40:05,861 --> 00:40:07,113 Unless it's happened to you, 912 00:40:07,113 --> 00:40:09,698 you can't imagine it. 913 00:40:09,698 --> 00:40:11,659 For the public at large, 914 00:40:11,659 --> 00:40:13,160 you can sort of shake your head. 915 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,831 You can think and try to empathize, 916 00:40:18,123 --> 00:40:22,628 but these are deep, deep personal human wounds 917 00:40:23,963 --> 00:40:25,422 that get inflicted when the system fails. 918 00:40:26,297 --> 00:40:28,926 The shocking coincidence is that 919 00:40:28,926 --> 00:40:31,804 the house where he went to visit his friend 920 00:40:31,804 --> 00:40:35,808 was the place where they were renting the basement suite 921 00:40:35,808 --> 00:40:40,020 of that home to the person who ultimately was convicted 922 00:40:40,020 --> 00:40:42,022 of the murder of Gail Miller. 923 00:40:42,022 --> 00:40:45,443 They could have solved the crime when it happened, 924 00:40:46,318 --> 00:40:48,696 if they'd stayed on the path, on the theory, 925 00:40:48,696 --> 00:40:50,823 that the killer was the rapist. 926 00:40:51,907 --> 00:40:53,993 That was right in front of them. 927 00:40:53,993 --> 00:40:55,494 (light somber music) 928 00:40:55,494 --> 00:40:58,164 - [Narrator] But for David just leaving prison 929 00:40:58,164 --> 00:41:00,416 doesn't rewrite the decades that he lost. 930 00:41:00,416 --> 00:41:02,001 - There's no dollars and cents value 931 00:41:02,001 --> 00:41:05,504 on the kind of things that are lost. 932 00:41:07,047 --> 00:41:09,091 - Like I say there was no transitional planning, 933 00:41:09,091 --> 00:41:14,180 and you've got a very complex psychology 934 00:41:15,097 --> 00:41:18,225 from the time he was 17 until the time, 935 00:41:18,225 --> 00:41:22,563 how ever old he was when he got out 40, almost 40. 936 00:41:24,064 --> 00:41:25,900 And he had trouble. 937 00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:27,485 He had a lot of trouble. 938 00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:29,445 (light somber music) 939 00:41:29,445 --> 00:41:31,489 - [Narrator] In May of 2022, 940 00:41:31,489 --> 00:41:33,574 David Milgaard passes away 941 00:41:33,574 --> 00:41:35,701 of complications from pneumonia 942 00:41:35,701 --> 00:41:38,536 leaving behind a wife and two children. 943 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,166 From the time he was released from prison until his death, 944 00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:45,127 David Milgaard fought for the rights of the incarcerated 945 00:41:45,127 --> 00:41:47,087 to help ensure that no one would have 946 00:41:47,087 --> 00:41:49,381 to relive his brutal experience. 947 00:41:49,381 --> 00:41:52,134 - He was advocating for a system, 948 00:41:52,134 --> 00:41:55,221 a better way, a better way of resolving 949 00:41:55,221 --> 00:41:56,931 these kinds of wrongful convictions. 950 00:41:56,931 --> 00:42:00,518 And the government of Canada keeps saying, "Yes, yes, yes." 951 00:42:00,518 --> 00:42:02,478 And I've participated in consultations, 952 00:42:02,478 --> 00:42:05,272 and, "Yeah, we're going to change the system." 953 00:42:05,272 --> 00:42:08,359 Six commissions of inquiry have been consistent about 954 00:42:08,359 --> 00:42:10,236 what the changes need to be. 955 00:42:10,236 --> 00:42:11,654 Still no change. 956 00:42:11,654 --> 00:42:15,491 And so, it would appear that the government is content. 957 00:42:15,491 --> 00:42:17,576 That the system is imperfect, 958 00:42:17,576 --> 00:42:20,204 and the way that we remedy 959 00:42:20,204 --> 00:42:23,707 those imperfections is also imperfect. 960 00:42:25,292 --> 00:42:26,752 - [Narrator] If not for the determination of a mother 961 00:42:26,752 --> 00:42:29,129 to prove her son's innocence 962 00:42:29,129 --> 00:42:31,674 and a lawyer's persistence to finding the truth, 963 00:42:31,674 --> 00:42:35,636 justice for Gail Miller might never have been found. 964 00:42:35,636 --> 00:42:39,556 (dramatic theatrical music) 965 00:42:42,556 --> 00:42:46,556 Preuzeto sa www.titlovi.com 73984

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