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- That was the lowest Geddy Lee
voice I've ever heard.
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- I'm full of surprises,
my friend.
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- I've never heard you
sing that low.
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- Full of surprises.
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I'm Geddy Lee.
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Bass player in the band Rush
for almost five decades.
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But also, a bird photographer,
a wine collector,
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baseball aficionado,
you know, a nerd!
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Which got me wondering whether
my fellow bass folk
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are more than just
the shadowy figures
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we see skulking
around the stage.
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I wanna know,
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"Are Bass Players Human Too?"
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Sonoma County, California.
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Wine country.
My kinda place.
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I once spent a few days here
crushing grapes
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with my Rush bandmate
and guitarist, Alex Lifeson.
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This time, I'm headed for
Rancho Relaxo,
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home and playground of
my friend, Les Claypool,
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and his family.
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Les, of course, is
a fellow bass player
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and founding frontman of
the band Primus.
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I'm putting my life
in your hands, Les.
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- As you should.
Here we go.
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Les and I
have been pals
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since Primus toured with Rush
in the early 90s.
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He's an absolute demon
on the bass,
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with a totally unique vibe.
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When I first saw Primus,
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it was clear they were not
your average rock band.
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We're like the cold sore.
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That just creeps up on you,
right before the prom.
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* Jerry was a race car driver
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Singing in
a countrified drawl,
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Les's mashup of funky grooves
with proggy overtones
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created a bass style that
almost defies description.
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* Ah
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This was mad,
marvellous music.
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Exciting and strange
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and their mosh pits
were legendary.
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* Go *
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From his solo work to
his many band collaborations,
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Les is a bass player oozing
with awesomeness.
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He's earned a cult-like status
among fans,
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including yours truly.
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On a recent tour, Primus
performed a rather
ambitious album,
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Rush's "A Farewell to Kings."
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* You can be the captain
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Trust me. That stuff
ain't easy to play.
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Nice one, boys.
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* Closer to the heart **
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Seemed like
the perfect moment for us
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to reconnect in Les's world
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and dig into what
makes him who he is.
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Starting with a joyride
around his property.
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So, this is how you relax
after a long tour?
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- Well, it's Rancho Relaxo.
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After a tour, you come home
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and you have this sense of
what the hell do I do now?
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And so, I bought this old
excavator, which you'll see,
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and I cleared all these fire
trails, and opened up
all this area,
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'cause we're in California,
where everything just catches
on fire if you look at it.
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- You're not a man to sit
idly by, I can see that.
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- There's a camera guy.
Don't look at him.
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Don't look!
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We're gonna run right at him.
- All right.
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Put a little spook
in this guy.
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- And there's the excavator.
- There's the excavator.
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When we pull off
the trail, I remind myself,
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when you hang with Les,
always expect the unexpected.
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I am a nice, urban, Jewish boy.
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Where do I come to
this kind of machinery?
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- Well, this is... this is where
you expand your horizons.
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As we move through life...
- All right.
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- ...we open new doors,
so it keeps us interested
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in being on the planet.
- Okay.
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- So, this was, you know,
my granddad's hat.
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- Okay. I'm honoured.
- So...
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It's a Stetson.
Very expensive.
- Well, you know,
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you are my hat mentor.
I've never been
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much of a hat guy.
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- See, look at that.
- Look at that.
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- You're all... that's it,
you're a champion, now.
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And uh, we'll put this on
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so you don't get poison oak.
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You step into it.
- Step into it.
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Is that what they call
"good TV?"
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- Climb on up there.
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People talk about Porsches,
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Ferraris during midlife crisis
and whatnot.
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- Yeah.
- This is the ultimate
penis extension right here.
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- I'm trying to show the world
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that a bass player
can do many things.
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I... this, I didn't expect,
I have to admit.
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- I come from a long line
of auto mechanics.
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My dad was a mechanic,
my grandpa was a mechanic,
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all my uncles were mechanics.
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I just like cool machinery.
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I just, I don't know
what it is, I like it.
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So, we're gonna consolidate
some burn piles.
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We got a burn pile back there.
We can move it over here.
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- Okay.
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Whoa.
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Open the bucket,
push it out to the right.
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There you go.
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Look at that guy!
Hey, hey!
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There you go!
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My life as
a bass player has been
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leading up to this moment.
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* I get up at seven, yeah
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* And I go to work at nine
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* I got no time for livin'
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Go!
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- Beauty.
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New gig for me.
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Hey, hey!
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- What do we got here?
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- That's called dirt.
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* They call me the working man *
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* They call me
the working man **
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Voilà.
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- Well, that's a bit sloppy.
I need to clean that up,
obviously.
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- That's kind of
a Canadian pile.
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I'm gonna just lower the bucket
real quick, so that's...
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* They call me
the working man **
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See, when I was
14 years old,
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if I could've imagined the day
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when I'd be helping Geddy Lee
off with his coveralls,
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I would've shit myself.
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From heavy machinery
to heavy chops,
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we retreat to the bass player's
natural habitat,
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the studio, where Les
makes musical magic.
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Are you rolling?
Yeah.
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- Okay.
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So, I need to ask you...
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I'm gonna ask...
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- I'm adding a little drama
to your question.
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Thank you for that.
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I wanna know, I want you
to tell me, why bass?
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- You know, it's funny because
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when I was a kid, I wanted to
play some form of instrument.
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And uh, there was a talent show
at the junior high
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and there was these two guys
playing guitar
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through these tiny,
little Fender Champs.
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And it's all...
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And I just remember
looking at it and going,
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"That's the instrument,
the electric instrument
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I do not wanna play 'cause
it sounds absolutely horrible."
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Flash forward to high school,
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all these bands needed
bass players
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'cause nobody wanted
to play bass.
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Everybody wanted
to be Eddie Van Halen.
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Nobody wanted to play bass.
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And I was like,
"Well, I'll play bass."
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I was instantly in a band.
I didn't even know
how to play it.
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And I'd play along with
Rush, "All the World's a Stage."
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But I didn't know...
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I couldn't hear the notes.
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So, I would just be playing
rhythmically
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along with you guys,
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not knowing if I was even
in the right place.
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- Oh.
- But that was a big part
of how I got started.
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My first concert was Rush
Hemispheres at the Cow Palace.
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Bought a bootleg t-shirt,
which I didn't even know,
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but Alex pointed that out
to me many years later
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when I wore it
to one of your shows.
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Drank three warm Lowenbraus
and threw up in the parking lot.
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And it was one of the greatest
nights of my life.
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- A typical result
after a Rush show.
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It was amazing!
It was before a Rush show.
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That night changed my life.
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- Wow. That's heavy.
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So, what makes Mr.
Claypool's playing style unique?
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Call it rock, call it funk,
just don't call it slap bass.
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- I sort of have this thing
about slap bass.
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People say, "Oh,
slap bass, slap bass!"
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Well, nobody ever called it
"slap bass"
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until guys like Flea and me
came along, and then,
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they said, "Oh, slap bass.
That's slap bass."
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It's not slap bass.
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'Cause I have a friend
that plays slap bass,
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and it's on an upright,
and you slap it and you pop it.
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And it's totally different.
I can't do it.
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But when I was coming up,
it was Larry Graham
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and the thumping
and the plucking.
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He had this whole thing about
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the thumping and the plucking,
you know.
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You know?
- Yeah, yeah.
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- More percussive.
- That's what I've always found
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compelling about your playing is
that you...
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you have the riffs.
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You have the speed to play
all these riffs,
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but you have a sense of rhythm,
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and you combine the two,
and that's really unusual.
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When I saw you guys
for the first time,
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opening for us, I found it
really fascinating.
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And in fact, it influenced me.
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It made me wanna play funkier
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because I'm not
a slap player, at all.
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If anything, I play...
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I play, like, a flamenco-style
of bass and...
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I pop the bass.
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But I don't slap-a da bass.
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- But when all is said and done,
you know,
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groove is a feel,
it's not a technique.
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- That's right. That's really
important. You're right.
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Yes, two old-timers,
just going down the road.
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Looking at the sights.
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Not far down the road
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is the home of
Maloney Stringed Instruments,
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where I meet luthiers
Dan Maloney and Maegen Wells,
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who design and build Les'
signature pachyderm basses.
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Knocky-knock.
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- Hello.
- Aloha!
- Oh, hey, guys!
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- How did you come
to know these people?
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Um, you made some guitars
in high school, I remember.
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- Yeah.
- Dan was always kinda known as
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the guy that would make
these amazing instruments.
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When I decided to build
the perfect, ultimate bass,
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Dan was the guy I talked to.
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- And what frustrated you about
the bass you were using
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that made you want
to have your own?
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- Wasn't so much a frustration.
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I wanted something that was
specifically tailored...
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- Right.
- ...for me.
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Something that had a little
more aggressive tone.
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We've just been honing
this thing now, for years.
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Is that the original drawing,
right there?
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- This is the original drawing.
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So, it's actually been
11 years yesterday.
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- Really?
- When we uh, came to your boat,
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over there in Sausalito.
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And you handed me this
and you go,
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"Yeah, this is the...
this is it, right here,"
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on this piece of cardboard.
There it is!
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Wow, look at that.
Great.
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Maegen...
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...talks to the wood.
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- I don't talk to the wood.
The wood talks to me.
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- Yeah!
- I listen!
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- But I've actually seen you
crawl into a crawl space
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and go, "Hey, guys!"
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And start talking to
slabs of redwood.
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- Yeah. It's true.
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This is an example of
the wood communicating with me.
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When I'm carving it, you can
hear it change in pitch.
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When you're digging
into something like this,
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since you're doing it by hand,
do you, you know,
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get a little fchwing,
a divot,
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as they would say
on the golf course.
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- Oh, sure, that means that
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the grain doesn't wanna be cut
in that direction.
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So then, I'll come at it
from the other way
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and I'll be,
"Okay, I'm sorry."
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- As long as you apologize.
- Oh, yeah! Oh, yeah!
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- As long as you apologize.
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- You don't know
what's on the inside.
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I mean, that's another part of
the beauty and uh, horror.
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- The beauty and the horror.
- Yeah!
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- Of guitar making.
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- That's what our lives
are like, every day.
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00:12:34,788 --> 00:12:38,325
- I guess it's that search for
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the perfect combination of tone
and comfortability on stage.
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You know, I've played
so many different basses,
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especially with Fenders,
because uh, one of the things
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I set out to do when I started
collecting was have
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one from every year,
so that I could play them
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back to back to back
to back to back,
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and notice how they had
evolved or devolved.
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Anyway, that's a bit nerdy,
but...
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We be nerds.
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- There was no nerds that
listened to Rush and Primus.
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After nerding out
over bass design,
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Les decides it's time for us
to hit the pond.
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Let's go catch fish!
You gotta watch out
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'cause sometimes,
there's snakes under the boat.
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- Oh, great.
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Les is a fisherman's fisherman.
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Spending as much time as he can
on his own seagoing vessel,
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or escaping to his well-stocked
private pond,
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where he lives the life aquatic.
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- Hell yeah, boy!
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This wasn't
the first time we gone fishing.
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As a matter of fact,
angling was something
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we did together when Primus
and Rush toured back in the 90s.
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We'd only known you,
like, three days or something
at that point, right?
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I was like, "Hey, anybody
wanna go fishing?"
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And you're all, "I'll go!"
- Our guys loved your band.
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And then, we got into
this pre-show jamming thing,
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which was really fun
and different for us.
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And we never had that
relationship with other bands.
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- Well, I do remember watching
Alex play guitar backstage once,
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using a tortilla chip as a pick.
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- Ooh, I got something.
- You got him?
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All right.
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It's a tuna!
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Look at that!
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- Oh, little baby.
- It's a monster! Look at that!
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00:14:18,892 --> 00:14:21,628
Look at that thing!
- Oh, I'm so sorry.
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00:14:21,694 --> 00:14:24,464
Daddy, will you take it off
the hook for me?
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Fly! Be free.
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There he goes.
- Swim away, little fish.
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The fishing, it's kind
of meditational, really.
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- Yes. - When I'm fishing,
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I don't think about
anything but fishing.
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Oh, there we go.
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00:14:37,344 --> 00:14:39,379
Oh, damn it!
That was a big old bass.
308
00:14:39,446 --> 00:14:40,948
- See, when I'm birdwatching,
through the woods,
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I'm looking for birds
and I've got my lenses with me
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and I'm trying to focus,
I don't care about
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anything else in the world.
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Nothing.
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Ooh, I got something.
- Got him?
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Look at that guy!
Ooh, you got him!
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00:14:54,694 --> 00:14:55,963
- Not you again!
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- It's the same one.
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Jesus.
- Oh, my God.
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My tour of Les Claypool's
offstage life rolls on
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through the vineyards of
Sonoma Valley.
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To indulge in a passion
we both have in common,
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it's wine o'clock.
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So now, we're going to
the tasting room, right?
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- The Station, we call it.
- What will we taste today?
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- We will have wine and wieners.
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Now, the real fun begins.
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Back in 2012,
Les launched Claypool Cellars,
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turning his personal thirst into
a world-class winemaking gig.
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- Hey, hey!
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So, welcome to
Pachyderm Station.
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- Mighty pleased to be here.
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With a glass of Purple Pachyderm
Pinot noir in my hand,
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we head to the patio,
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where Les has something big
he wants to show me.
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00:15:58,658 --> 00:16:01,594
- So uh, Geddy, did you know
I had a 20-foot wiener?
335
00:16:01,661 --> 00:16:04,831
You know, I've been curious
to see your wiener.
336
00:16:04,897 --> 00:16:06,199
- I sensed that for many years.
337
00:16:06,266 --> 00:16:08,201
- How many wiener jokes
can we get in,
338
00:16:08,268 --> 00:16:09,969
in the next 10 minutes?
- Oh, you'd be amazed.
339
00:16:10,037 --> 00:16:11,938
This is Atilla.
Hi, fellas, how we doing?
340
00:16:12,005 --> 00:16:13,506
- Hello, Atilla.
- He's manning the wiener,
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00:16:13,573 --> 00:16:15,875
which is a sentence you probably
don't hear very often.
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00:16:15,942 --> 00:16:17,844
I've been saying for years
that someday,
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I'm gonna retire and open
a gourmet hotdog stand.
344
00:16:21,614 --> 00:16:23,483
- Wow.
- This is not a big
money venture.
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- It's a labour of love.
- It's a clubhouse for
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us and all our friends.
I mean, they're like
our closest friends.
347
00:16:28,455 --> 00:16:29,956
- I love it.
- You know, it's amazing.
348
00:16:30,023 --> 00:16:32,192
- Well, now I'm suffering
from wiener envy.
349
00:16:32,259 --> 00:16:34,561
- Well, there you go.
- I have to say.
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00:16:34,627 --> 00:16:38,298
I'm torn between Cage's Caveman
and the Colonel's Choice.
351
00:16:38,365 --> 00:16:40,300
- So, we'll do...
we'll do one of each.
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00:16:40,367 --> 00:16:41,301
Got it.
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00:16:47,907 --> 00:16:49,209
- Hmm.
354
00:16:49,276 --> 00:16:50,177
I approve.
355
00:16:50,243 --> 00:16:51,744
The bun is exceptional.
356
00:16:51,811 --> 00:16:54,081
- Yes. One of
our original ones was
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Korean barbecue sauce, kimchi.
- Very modern.
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- And it tasted amazing.
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And everybody loved it.
- This is good.
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00:17:00,853 --> 00:17:02,922
- But you come into
the tasting room,
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00:17:02,989 --> 00:17:04,457
'cause were storing
all this kimchi,
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00:17:04,523 --> 00:17:06,925
and it smelled like farts.
- Oh, not good.
363
00:17:06,992 --> 00:17:07,960
- It was horrible!
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00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:10,029
You know, kimchi on its own...
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00:17:10,097 --> 00:17:12,932
- Is a little stinky.
- And I thought it was just me
at first, 'cause I've got...
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00:17:12,999 --> 00:17:15,768
I don't know how you are,
I got the schnoz,
I can smell anything,
367
00:17:15,835 --> 00:17:17,069
smell stuff.
- You got a schnoz?
368
00:17:17,137 --> 00:17:19,038
- I can smell--
- Dude.
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00:17:19,939 --> 00:17:21,508
This ain't a fucking ornament.
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00:17:21,574 --> 00:17:24,042
- We're here to sell wine,
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not wieners.
The wieners...
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00:17:25,412 --> 00:17:27,280
- The kimchi is stinking up
my wine.
- Yeah.
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Nobody wants to buy wine
that smells like farts.
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00:17:33,586 --> 00:17:37,357
Finally, we enter
the inner sanctum of
Pachyderm Station.
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It's the perfect last stop
on our journey of all things
Claypool.
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- Aloha!
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00:17:43,796 --> 00:17:45,198
- Looks fantastic!
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00:17:45,265 --> 00:17:48,868
The décor mirrors that quirky
Claypool personality.
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00:17:48,935 --> 00:17:51,538
But one thing caught me
totally off guard.
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00:17:51,604 --> 00:17:53,206
- That's been up there
since Neil passed.
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00:17:53,273 --> 00:17:54,874
- Isn't that beautiful.
382
00:17:56,509 --> 00:18:00,347
What a touching tribute
to my pal, the late Neil Peart,
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00:18:00,413 --> 00:18:03,183
my bandmate for over 40 years.
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00:18:03,250 --> 00:18:04,651
He would love that.
385
00:18:04,717 --> 00:18:06,453
Thank you.
- Yeah.
386
00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:08,588
Of course. Thank you, guys.
Shit.
- That's...
387
00:18:08,655 --> 00:18:10,657
That's making me cry, dude.
388
00:18:22,435 --> 00:18:24,737
Thankfully, it's tasting time.
389
00:18:24,804 --> 00:18:27,674
Joining us to sample Les'
yummy Pinot
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00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:31,478
is the label's winemaker
extraordinaire, Ross Cobb.
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00:18:31,544 --> 00:18:34,113
- So, let's do
the '17 Rice-Spivak.
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Which, in the two days
I've been here,
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00:18:37,350 --> 00:18:38,751
has become my favourite.
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00:18:38,818 --> 00:18:40,987
- The way we describe
the wines here,
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00:18:41,053 --> 00:18:43,490
we could describe them
by elevation,
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proximity to the ocean, soil.
397
00:18:45,192 --> 00:18:46,793
- How many Skittles
we threw in the vat.
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00:18:46,859 --> 00:18:48,295
- Yeah, Skittles.
Which colour.
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00:18:49,496 --> 00:18:50,530
- Well, let me ask you this,
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00:18:50,597 --> 00:18:52,965
you like crafting this wine,
401
00:18:53,032 --> 00:18:55,067
would you compare it
to crafting music?
402
00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:58,171
- Oh, there are
so many parallels.
403
00:18:58,238 --> 00:18:59,606
I make wine with Ross Cobb,
404
00:18:59,672 --> 00:19:01,474
it's like a producer of
a record, you know.
405
00:19:01,541 --> 00:19:03,042
It's like,
if Brian Eno produces it,
406
00:19:03,109 --> 00:19:06,078
it's gonna have a certain
element that is his something.
407
00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:07,647
- Well, like a Les Claypool
bass part.
408
00:19:07,714 --> 00:19:09,616
Or like, one of my bass parts.
409
00:19:09,682 --> 00:19:13,186
I describe wines to my friends,
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00:19:13,253 --> 00:19:15,355
naturally, just out of habit,
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00:19:15,955 --> 00:19:18,325
as bottom end, top end,
mid-range.
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00:19:18,391 --> 00:19:20,293
You know, there is
a correlation.
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00:19:21,894 --> 00:19:23,830
We set out to prove to people
414
00:19:23,896 --> 00:19:26,833
that bass players are
also human.
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00:19:27,367 --> 00:19:31,771
But what I've learned is that
Les is superhuman, uh,
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00:19:31,838 --> 00:19:34,674
because of all the things
he takes on
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00:19:34,741 --> 00:19:36,909
and all the things
he does so well.
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00:19:36,976 --> 00:19:39,879
- There's a fine line between
superhuman and alien.
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00:19:39,946 --> 00:19:41,180
Um...
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00:19:41,248 --> 00:19:43,683
I mean, look, you gotta find
those things that
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00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:45,285
keep you wanting to get up
in the morning and go,
422
00:19:45,352 --> 00:19:47,820
"Okay, I'm gonna get outta
the bed and do my thing."
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00:19:47,887 --> 00:19:49,822
Finding those things that
excite you, you know.
424
00:19:49,889 --> 00:19:51,324
That's what keeps you
on the planet,
425
00:19:51,391 --> 00:19:52,625
and it's a wonderful thing.
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00:19:52,692 --> 00:19:53,860
That's what life's all about.
- Amen.
427
00:19:53,926 --> 00:19:56,663
I'll drink to that.
Cheerio, cheerio.
428
00:19:56,729 --> 00:20:00,433
Well, human, superhuman
or alien,
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00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:03,236
I'm just glad my pal Les
is on the planet.
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00:20:03,303 --> 00:20:05,705
The passion he brings
to everything he does
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00:20:05,772 --> 00:20:08,007
should be inspiration to us all,
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00:20:08,074 --> 00:20:11,311
whether you play bass or not.
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00:20:39,739 --> 00:20:41,774
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