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ANNOUNCER: This program is
about unsolved mysteries.
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Whenever possible, the
actual family members
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and police officials
have participated
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in recreating the events.
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What you are about to see
is not a news broadcast.
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ROBERT STACK: 30 year old
Army Staff Sergeant Billy Ray
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Hargrove wanted to spend
his life in the military,
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but in February of
1992 Hargrove was
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found dead, hung by the
neck in his own backyard.
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Incredibly, just six weeks
later Hargrove's best friend,
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Sgt. Mike Carmichael,
was also found dead,
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hung from a barracks locker.
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What happened to Billy Ray
Hargrove and Mike Carmichael?
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Congress is currently
looking into these deaths,
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and several other cases
where American servicemen
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have died under
questionable circumstances.
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In each case the military has
ruled suicide or accident,
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but some family members and
friends are crying murder--
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perhaps not without reason.
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Join us for this intriguing
investigation, and more,
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on "Unsolved Mysteries."
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[theme music]
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In the early 1980s, the
resort mecca of Miami, Florida
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found itself in the
midst of an urban crisis.
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First the city was deluged
by more than 120,000 refugees
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from Cuba.
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Among them were 30,000
hardcore criminals.
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Simultaneously, racial tensions
were polarizing the populace,
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and in the summer of
1980 six days of rioting
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convulsed the city.
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In response, Miami doubled
the size of its police force
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between 1980 and 1983.
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It was an unprecedented
expansion,
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but the accelerated
pace exacted a price.
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According to some, a handful
of questionable applicants
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slipped through the
screening process,
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and soon Miami had
yet another problem--
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corrupt officers at the heart
of its police department.
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It began almost quietly.
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The early abuses were
minor shakedowns,
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and the targets small
time drug dealers.
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[non-english speech]
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A number of the early
ripoffs were simple car stops,
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where the police officers would
see small amounts of drugs
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and money, and would proceed
to take those drugs and money,
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believing that the people
who they were stopping
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weren't going to
report those incidents
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to the police department.
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They felt that
they were invincible
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as long as they stood together.
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As long as no one talked, it was
their word against common thugs
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on the street.
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These police officers
succumbed to greed,
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and they would go out
and say they were not
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harming law-abiding citizens.
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And that's how they
rationalized and justified
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a lot of their crimes
that they committed.
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[non-english speech]
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): One of
the most notorious of the rogue
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officers was Armando Garcia.
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In high school he was
associated with a group
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of drug users, ties he
had been able to hide when
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he joined the police force.
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Garcia was not content with
nickel and dime shakedowns.
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He grew bold enough to
confiscate literally
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boatloads of drugs in
bogus police operations
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that were totally
off the record--
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raids which eventually
escalated into violence.
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In July of 1985, Garcia
learned that some 400 kilos
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of pure cocaine would
soon arrive in Miami.
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He had allegedly intercepted
a similar shipment
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two weeks before,
and it seemed as easy
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as taking candy from a baby.
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Police!
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Miami police!
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Drop it and go!
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
But this time
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Garcia's plans went south.
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[non-english speech]
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Get out of here, or
face the consequences!
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CLYDE RIMES: Six of the
dopers jumped in the water
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to escape the police
officer, thinking
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it was an official raid.
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Three of them drowned.
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The officers left with
400 kilos of cocaine.
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Metro Dade Police Department
began the investigation
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immediately after the
three bodies were found,
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and they thought it
was a routine homicide.
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I need you to tell me
exactly what it was you saw.
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Sure.
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I saw police cars
come into the yard.
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How many?
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There were three of them.
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What department?
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The City of Miami
police department.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Detectives
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were stunned when
a harbor security
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guard said the three
men had drowned
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while fleeing a police raid.
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Official police logs had
no record of such a raid.
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Further investigation
blew the lid off Armando
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Garcia's secret life.
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Ultimately, he and 34
other Miami police officers
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were arrested on
corruption charges.
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[non-english speech]
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We have no choice.
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[spanish]
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We must eliminate our problem.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
While in prison,
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Garcia and several other
officers allegedly hatched
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a secret plot to kill a
number of the witnesses
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scheduled to testify
against them.
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[non-english speech]
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): In January
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of 1986, after four
months in jail,
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Garcia and several
associates made bail.
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According to investigators,
they lost no time
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putting their murder
plans into action
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against one of the
prosecution's top witnesses.
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They supplied $50,000 to
one hit man for that hit,
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but it did not take place.
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He took their money, and
did not commit the hit.
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And they attempted--
even themselves-- they
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hid in the bushes
waiting for one
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of the government witnesses,
but never could find him.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): In
the end, none of the witnesses
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were harmed.
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But in spite of their
testimony, the corruption
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case against Garcia
and his co-defendants
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ended in a mistrial.
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By then, however, evidence
of the assassination plots
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had come to light.
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The former officers
were indicted
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on a second set of
charges, including
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conspiracy to commit murder.
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Several of the officers,
after the indictment,
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decided that they
would cooperate.
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The other officers realized
then that the case had reached
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a point where it was
almost a sure conviction
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if they went to court.
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At that point, they made
a decision to take flight.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Armando Garcia
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disappeared in May of 1987.
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He is 5'8 tall, weighs
185 lbs, and has
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brown hair and brown eyes.
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Garcia was born in Cuba, and
police now fear he may have
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slipped away to South America.
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He is married, and is known to
have two young daughters, ages
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three and four.
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Authorities are also
seeking Garcia's father,
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Toribio Dagoberto Garcia.
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He is 55 years old,
balding, and has brown eyes.
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He stands 5'6 tall,
and weighs 170 lbs.
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A third suspect
wanted in this case
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is Victor Zapata,
another former officer.
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Zapata is 5'9 tall,
weighs 175 lbs, and has
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brown hair and brown eyes.
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Next, two friends turn out
to be brother and sister.
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Perhaps you can help find
the rest of the family.
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It was just three days
before Christmas in 1964.
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A young woman from
Flint, Michigan,
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named Faith Marie Brown, stole
out for a late night joyride
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with two friends.
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Faster than that?
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You can go faster than that.
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Come on.
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Whoa, watch out!
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ROBERT STACK: Miraculously,
the driver survived the crash,
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but both passengers
were killed instantly.
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Faith Brown was dead
at the age of 26.
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In addition to her
parents and four brothers,
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Faith left behind seven
children under the age of 10.
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The untimely death
of Faith Marie Browne
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added one final, tragic
twist to the already
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complicated lives of her four
sons and three daughters.
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Two divorces, and now
the fatal car crash
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had scattered the children
to five different families.
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It seemed they would
be separated forever,
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until a young woman
named April Kersjes, who
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had been adopted
as a child, set out
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to find her biological parents.
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In 1992, April was diagnosed
with rheumatoid arthritis,
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a hereditary disease.
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Concerned about her
own childrens' health,
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April began her search--
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one with more than a
share of surprises.
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It all started in
the records office
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of Shiawassee County, Michigan.
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I told them that I knew
my name was Michelle Brown
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at birth, and that my birthday
was September 18, 1961,
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and I was adopted, and
I'd like any information
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available on my adoption.
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There's another
child named Brown.
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I kind of glanced over,
and I'd seen the name
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Michael Brown right
underneath mine,
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and so I knew I had a brother.
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May I take a look at that?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
April was not permitted
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to examine the records.
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Strict regulations govern the
release of adoption files,
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but April petitioned
a county judge
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for access to the information.
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Three days later, she
received this letter.
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It contained the astonishing
revelation that April had
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four brothers and two sisters.
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However, the key details that
would allow her to find them
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had been omitted.
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April Kersjes was trapped
in a bureaucratic catch-22.
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I was a little
bit upset that there
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wasn't more information
released on the other brothers
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and sisters.
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We were all over
the legal age, and
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we're all mature adults now, and
we should be able to handle it.
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And I was a little bit upset
that they wouldn't give us
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anymore than they did,
but yet thankful that they
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at least gave me that much.
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I never even knew
you were adopted.
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Yeah.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Mike Galloway,
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the husband of April's
best friend, Deb,
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had also been adopted.
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He was especially curious
about April's investigation.
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--while later.
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I mean, I knew that my
birth name was Brown,
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but they weren't willing
to divulge any other names.
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Your birth name is Brown?
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Yeah.
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That's funny.
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My adoptive parents told
me my birth name was Brown.
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Oh, you're kidding?
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Could I see the letter?
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Sure.
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When I showed Mike the
letter, he looked at,
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and the paragraph where
it said I had a brother
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born in Owasso in 1960.
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He kind of looked over the
top of the letter and said,
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I was born in Owasso in 1960,
and my last name was Brown.
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We thought it would be funny
if we were brother and sister,
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but we really didn't think
that was a possibility.
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Brown's a common name,
and when it was brought up,
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it's just like Smith, or
Jones, or any other common name
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like that.
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So I'm the type of person that
likes to see things in writing,
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or in my face before
I actually settle
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down to believe that it's true.
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Remember when our
daughter, Amber, was born?
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The next morning, April met
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Mike and Deb at their house.
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Mike's adoptive parents
had often told him that he
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had a sister named Michelle.
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Try to find Michelle.
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Wait a minute--
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did you say your sister's
name was Michelle?
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Yeah.
255
00:13:02,182 --> 00:13:05,953
Michael-- my real
name is Michelle Brown.
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We knew it had to be that
we were brother and sister.
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Don't try and tell me that
this is another coincidence.
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We jumped up, and we hugged
each other, and Deb, and said,
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I can't believe I've
known you for eight years,
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and now I find out
you're my brother.
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This is-- this is too wild.
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I'm kind of glad that April
and I didn't meet first,
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and then start dating, you know?
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And end up getting married,
or something, because then
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that would have been--
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kind of shocking to have
kids with your own sister,
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I suppose.
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Michaeli pretty much information
from the county files
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was recollections primarily
from Mike's adoptive parents.
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Soon a picture began to
emerge of their birth
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mother, Faith Marie brown.
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[coughing]
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Come on, we really need
to talk about this now.
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Not in here.
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When she was
just 16 years old,
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Faith had dropped out of
high school to be married.
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By the time she was 20
she already had four
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children, including twin boys.
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Faith would lose them all
when her young marriage
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ended in divorce.
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What are you talking about?
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They're coming with me,
and if you try to fight me,
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Faith, I will take you to court.
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At the heart of
the conflict was
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her husband's belief
that another man
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had fathered the twins.
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I don't want you
raising them, either.
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Why are you doing this?
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Because I want to do
what's best for the kids.
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Mike and April
would later learn
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that their father was
yet another man, 25
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years older than their mother.
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- I'm going out for a while, OK?
- OK.
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From what we know, our
mother had a very hard time
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at anything she'd ever done.
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She had kids one
right after the other,
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and like she wasn't
responsible for them.
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She would give them
up for adoption,
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or they would eventually
be taken away.
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I don't think she could really
handle the responsibilities
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of having the kids.
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ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): In 1962,
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Michigan social services took
custody of April and Michael.
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Three months later
their father and Faith
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had another daughter, Shannon.
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After Faith died, Shannon
was put up for adoption,
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and the records sealed
in county files.
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OK.
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We can see "My Fair Lady" again.
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We believe that a gentleman
by the name of Mr. Dennis
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is our father, and as far as we
know, or have been able to find
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out, he is still alive.
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We'd like to be able to
get in touch with him,
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more or less to say hi, and
see what kind of a person
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he's like.
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But if he doesn't want--
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even if he doesn't want
a relationship with us,
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we would still at least
like a chance to say hello.
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It's pretty frustrating,
because we have
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a lot of little
pieces of information,
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00:15:53,886 --> 00:15:57,057
and it's like a puzzle that's
missing half the pieces.
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I think it was fate that
brought April and I together.
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00:16:05,298 --> 00:16:07,700
I hope it's fate
that brings April
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00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:12,139
and I, and our other brothers
and sisters together.
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To live in a small
town like we do,
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00:16:15,242 --> 00:16:18,311
we've wondered if some
of the people we've met
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00:16:18,411 --> 00:16:21,981
may be related to us,
and we never knew it.
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00:16:22,082 --> 00:16:24,017
We've had people say, you
know, do you have a sister
329
00:16:24,117 --> 00:16:25,052
that lives in St. John?
330
00:16:25,152 --> 00:16:27,187
Because you sure
remind me of somebody.
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Well, before I'd say
no, not that I know of.
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00:16:30,123 --> 00:16:32,059
Well, now I can't say that.
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I may have.
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ROBERT STACK: Together, April
and Mike tried to locate
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00:16:36,529 --> 00:16:38,131
their five lost siblings--
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William, Wanda, Shannon, and
twins Keith and Kenneth--
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00:16:41,501 --> 00:16:43,403
but none of their
leads paid off--
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until the night
of our broadcast.
339
00:16:48,508 --> 00:16:51,478
That evening, four of Faith
Brown's missing children
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were watching.
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00:16:52,979 --> 00:16:56,983
All five contacted our phone
center within 24 hours.
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00:16:57,084 --> 00:16:59,119
April and Michael quickly
made plans to host
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a remarkable family reunion.
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They would soon be face
to face with two sisters
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and three brothers
who, until recently,
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00:17:06,259 --> 00:17:07,260
they didn't even know existed.
347
00:17:10,530 --> 00:17:15,568
The first to arrive were
William, Shannon, and Wanda.
348
00:17:15,668 --> 00:17:17,204
Woo!
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00:17:17,304 --> 00:17:18,171
All right.
350
00:17:18,271 --> 00:17:21,040
What are you up to?
351
00:17:21,141 --> 00:17:22,509
How are you doing?
352
00:17:22,609 --> 00:17:24,811
When we started hugging,
we didn't want to stop.
353
00:17:24,911 --> 00:17:27,847
And it was, like, seeing
old friends, or something.
354
00:17:27,947 --> 00:17:31,718
It was overwhelming,
joyous, happy.
355
00:17:34,454 --> 00:17:37,524
A whole bunch of emotions
all wrapped up in one.
356
00:17:37,624 --> 00:17:39,392
When I hugged April,
it was something--
357
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I don't know what it was.
358
00:17:40,660 --> 00:17:41,528
It was just--
359
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I felt something inside.
360
00:17:45,098 --> 00:17:46,599
And I noticed she
keeps looking at me,
361
00:17:46,699 --> 00:17:49,469
and I keep looking at her, and--
362
00:17:49,569 --> 00:17:52,572
you know, it's just strange
to look like somebody.
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ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): When
Kenneth and Keith showed up,
364
00:17:57,844 --> 00:17:59,879
the reunion was complete.
365
00:17:59,979 --> 00:18:01,848
For Mike Galloway,
it was a moment
366
00:18:01,948 --> 00:18:03,550
he thought might never arrive.
367
00:18:03,650 --> 00:18:04,451
Hey.
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00:18:04,551 --> 00:18:05,418
How you doing?
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00:18:05,518 --> 00:18:07,354
All right.
370
00:18:07,454 --> 00:18:10,190
When you're adopted,
and you know that there's
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00:18:10,290 --> 00:18:12,159
other brothers and
sisters out there,
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00:18:12,259 --> 00:18:15,027
you don't really feel like
you're a whole person.
373
00:18:15,128 --> 00:18:17,430
And with finding
all the rest of 'em,
374
00:18:17,530 --> 00:18:18,998
it just-- it kind of
makes you feel like you're
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00:18:19,098 --> 00:18:20,032
a whole person.
376
00:18:20,133 --> 00:18:22,569
Like your whole life
is back in order.
377
00:18:22,669 --> 00:18:23,970
Look at the hair.
378
00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:26,373
Aw, jeez.
379
00:18:26,473 --> 00:18:28,208
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The party exceeded everyone's
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00:18:28,308 --> 00:18:30,210
wildest expectations.
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00:18:30,310 --> 00:18:32,879
With a total of 33
family members present,
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00:18:32,979 --> 00:18:35,415
it was one of "Unsolved
Mysteries'" largest
383
00:18:35,515 --> 00:18:37,684
reunions ever.
384
00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:39,986
Just knowing that
there's family out there,
385
00:18:40,086 --> 00:18:41,888
it means a lot.
386
00:18:41,988 --> 00:18:45,392
Because it's a part
of Mom, and now,
387
00:18:45,492 --> 00:18:48,395
with all the brothers and
sisters being together,
388
00:18:48,495 --> 00:18:52,232
she'll live on with
us forever now.
389
00:18:52,332 --> 00:18:54,501
And today I think she's
gonna rest in peace.
390
00:19:06,779 --> 00:19:08,348
ROBERT STACK: This is
the National Cemetery
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00:19:08,448 --> 00:19:11,251
in Little Rock, Arkansas,
the final resting place
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00:19:11,351 --> 00:19:14,354
for hundreds of soldiers,
sailors, and pilots.
393
00:19:14,454 --> 00:19:18,591
Veterans of every major conflict
in the history of this country.
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Also buried here
are two men who are
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00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:23,029
at the center of one of the
most intriguing mysteries
396
00:19:23,129 --> 00:19:24,464
we have ever encountered.
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00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:29,168
Recently we came
across this article
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00:19:29,269 --> 00:19:32,339
in the Philadelphia Inquirer,
in which investigative reporter
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00:19:32,439 --> 00:19:34,507
David Zucchino
outlined the cases
400
00:19:34,607 --> 00:19:36,843
of 40 US servicemen
who died under
401
00:19:36,943 --> 00:19:39,078
questionable circumstances.
402
00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:42,549
Every case has been ruled either
a suicide or a self-inflicted
403
00:19:42,649 --> 00:19:44,551
accident by the military--
404
00:19:44,651 --> 00:19:47,287
yet in each instance there
seems to be evidence that
405
00:19:47,387 --> 00:19:48,855
defies the official ruling.
406
00:19:52,225 --> 00:19:55,462
In May of 1993, the
families of 14 soldiers
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00:19:55,562 --> 00:19:57,163
said to have taken
their own lives
408
00:19:57,264 --> 00:20:00,733
testified before the House
Armed Services Committee.
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00:20:00,833 --> 00:20:04,571
Each family claimed their
son did not commit suicide.
410
00:20:04,671 --> 00:20:05,905
Tonight we will
be looking at two
411
00:20:06,005 --> 00:20:07,807
of the most baffling cases--
412
00:20:07,907 --> 00:20:09,976
the cases of Sergeant
Billy Ray Hargrove
413
00:20:10,076 --> 00:20:12,245
and Sergeant Mike Carmichael.
414
00:20:12,345 --> 00:20:15,282
The army has refused to
participate in our broadcast,
415
00:20:15,382 --> 00:20:17,016
and stands by the
judgment that the two
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00:20:17,116 --> 00:20:19,452
soldiers killed themselves.
417
00:20:19,552 --> 00:20:24,257
Both families say the
army is dead wrong.
418
00:20:24,357 --> 00:20:27,727
Mike didn't have
nothing to die for, no
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00:20:27,827 --> 00:20:29,629
more than Billy had to die for.
420
00:20:29,729 --> 00:20:32,131
Neither one of them
committed suicide.
421
00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:33,032
They didn't do it.
422
00:20:36,436 --> 00:20:39,706
Billy Ray Hargrove and Mike
Carmichael had similar lives,
423
00:20:39,806 --> 00:20:42,141
and suffered similar deaths.
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00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:45,545
Both had planned careers in
the military since childhood.
425
00:20:45,645 --> 00:20:47,480
Both had joined the
army in their teens,
426
00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:50,683
and become the best of friends
as they climbed the ranks.
427
00:20:50,783 --> 00:20:52,952
Both had married Korean
women while stationed
428
00:20:53,052 --> 00:20:56,155
in the Far East.
429
00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:59,125
Tragically, Billy Ray
Hargrove and Mike Carmichael
430
00:20:59,225 --> 00:21:01,461
died within six
weeks of each other,
431
00:21:01,561 --> 00:21:03,496
and according to the
army, they committed
432
00:21:03,596 --> 00:21:05,131
suicide in a similar manner.
433
00:21:09,369 --> 00:21:13,205
During Operation Desert Storm,
Billy Ray Hargrove and his wife
434
00:21:13,306 --> 00:21:16,576
were sent from their base
in Germany to Saudi Arabia.
435
00:21:16,676 --> 00:21:18,945
However, the conflict
ended before the platoon
436
00:21:19,045 --> 00:21:21,247
saw active duty.
437
00:21:21,348 --> 00:21:26,386
When Billy finished Desert
Storm and went back to Germany,
438
00:21:26,486 --> 00:21:31,958
he was disappointed because his
men did not get a merit award--
439
00:21:32,058 --> 00:21:36,195
a medal that he felt
like they deserved.
440
00:21:36,295 --> 00:21:38,865
And he set about
trying to get the medal
441
00:21:38,965 --> 00:21:42,068
for 'em, and every
direction he went in,
442
00:21:42,168 --> 00:21:44,471
he couldn't accomplish it.
443
00:21:44,571 --> 00:21:46,406
We were wondering when you'd
recommend us for the Desert
444
00:21:46,506 --> 00:21:48,240
Storm decoration.
445
00:21:48,341 --> 00:21:51,277
Billy Ray, I appreciate
everything you and the men
446
00:21:51,378 --> 00:21:53,680
did during the campaign--
447
00:21:53,780 --> 00:21:57,650
but since the unit did
not go into combat,
448
00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:59,786
I'm refusing the application.
449
00:21:59,886 --> 00:22:02,188
Sir, I understand your point,
but the men were just as--
450
00:22:02,288 --> 00:22:06,058
I've decided to
refuse the application.
451
00:22:06,158 --> 00:22:07,226
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Billy Ray
452
00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:09,362
could not accept
the army's decision,
453
00:22:09,462 --> 00:22:12,131
and made a questionable
decision of his own.
454
00:22:12,231 --> 00:22:14,000
He forged his
superior's signature
455
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:16,268
on the appropriate documents.
456
00:22:16,369 --> 00:22:19,005
A short time later, his
men received their medals.
457
00:22:21,908 --> 00:22:23,443
A few months passed.
458
00:22:23,543 --> 00:22:26,879
In June of 1991, Billy
Ray arrived in Korea
459
00:22:26,979 --> 00:22:27,880
for another tour of duty.
460
00:22:27,980 --> 00:22:29,281
How are you doing?
461
00:22:29,382 --> 00:22:30,983
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): At the
airport he met his wife, Kim--
462
00:22:31,083 --> 00:22:34,153
and unexpected trouble.
463
00:22:34,253 --> 00:22:35,087
Sergeant Hargrove?
464
00:22:35,187 --> 00:22:36,288
Yes, sir.
465
00:22:36,389 --> 00:22:38,257
I'm here to place you
under arrest for treason.
466
00:22:38,357 --> 00:22:41,794
Willis, remove the Desert
Storm commendation.
467
00:22:41,894 --> 00:22:43,496
Sir-- what's this about?
468
00:22:43,596 --> 00:22:44,464
Take him into custody, Jim.
469
00:22:44,564 --> 00:22:46,032
Just come with me.
470
00:22:46,132 --> 00:22:46,933
What is it?
471
00:22:47,033 --> 00:22:47,834
I'll call you.
472
00:22:47,934 --> 00:22:49,135
I'll call you.
473
00:22:49,235 --> 00:22:52,038
Billy Ray called
me January the 28th.
474
00:22:52,138 --> 00:22:53,239
He told me, Dad,
I think I'm going
475
00:22:53,339 --> 00:22:54,941
to get out of the military.
476
00:22:55,041 --> 00:22:57,610
I've had all of it I can stand.
477
00:22:57,710 --> 00:23:00,680
And he said, I'll
probably be home by June.
478
00:23:03,249 --> 00:23:04,851
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Billy Ray's court martial
479
00:23:04,951 --> 00:23:06,553
was not his only problem.
480
00:23:06,653 --> 00:23:10,122
In particular, his marriage to
Kim had begun to fall apart,
481
00:23:10,222 --> 00:23:14,861
and Billy Ray began making
plans to divorce her.
482
00:23:14,961 --> 00:23:19,298
I had visited their house,
and they were fighting a lot,
483
00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:21,801
and there was a lot of jealousy.
484
00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:24,704
She was constantly accusing
him of having a girlfriend,
485
00:23:24,804 --> 00:23:27,306
and having a child
somewhere that she
486
00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:29,208
didn't know anything about.
487
00:23:29,308 --> 00:23:31,511
And it wasn't true at all.
488
00:23:31,611 --> 00:23:33,480
Well, I don't think
they're going to kick me out.
489
00:23:33,580 --> 00:23:35,848
I may lose some rank,
but I'm gonna re-up.
490
00:23:35,948 --> 00:23:37,083
I think it's the
right call, man.
491
00:23:37,183 --> 00:23:38,518
I've been telling you that.
- Yeah, you're right.
492
00:23:38,618 --> 00:23:40,487
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Another eight months passed.
493
00:23:40,587 --> 00:23:43,656
According to Billy Ray's family,
the controversy surrounding
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00:23:43,756 --> 00:23:46,292
the forged documents
began to subside,
495
00:23:46,392 --> 00:23:48,995
and Billy Ray told his best
friend, Mike Carmichael,
496
00:23:49,095 --> 00:23:50,162
that he had re-enlisted.
497
00:23:53,566 --> 00:23:55,802
Hey, Hargrove!
498
00:23:55,902 --> 00:23:58,037
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
February 20, 1992.
499
00:23:58,137 --> 00:24:00,940
The day of Billy Ray
Hargrove's death.
500
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,610
Billy Ray had missed a
summons to report to duty,
501
00:24:03,710 --> 00:24:06,479
and at 9:20 AM, one of
his fellow sergeants
502
00:24:06,579 --> 00:24:08,380
showed up at his doorstep.
503
00:24:08,481 --> 00:24:09,381
Hey, Billy.
504
00:24:09,482 --> 00:24:10,316
Where you been?
505
00:24:10,416 --> 00:24:11,784
Oh, I was just
having breakfast.
506
00:24:11,884 --> 00:24:13,119
Did you not hear the siren?
507
00:24:13,219 --> 00:24:14,186
Uh, no.
508
00:24:14,286 --> 00:24:15,221
Are we having a drill?
509
00:24:15,321 --> 00:24:16,155
Yeah.
510
00:24:16,255 --> 00:24:17,757
And the captain's
going ballistic.
511
00:24:17,857 --> 00:24:19,125
I'll bet he is.
512
00:24:19,225 --> 00:24:20,359
Tell him I'm on my way.
513
00:24:20,459 --> 00:24:21,260
OK, good deal.
514
00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:22,461
See you later.
515
00:24:22,562 --> 00:24:24,063
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Inexplicably, Billy Ray
516
00:24:24,163 --> 00:24:25,932
never reported for duty.
517
00:24:26,032 --> 00:24:28,300
Instead, he took
his dog for a walk.
518
00:24:31,270 --> 00:24:33,573
[dog barking]
519
00:24:34,807 --> 00:24:35,908
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
20 minutes later,
520
00:24:36,008 --> 00:24:37,544
Kim heard the dog barking.
521
00:24:37,644 --> 00:24:38,444
Hey, there.
522
00:24:38,545 --> 00:24:39,478
What's wrong with you, huh?
523
00:24:39,579 --> 00:24:40,547
Where's Bill?
524
00:24:40,647 --> 00:24:41,447
Huh?
525
00:24:41,548 --> 00:24:42,915
Where's Bill?
526
00:24:43,015 --> 00:24:45,852
Bill?
527
00:24:45,952 --> 00:24:48,287
Bill?
528
00:24:48,387 --> 00:24:49,488
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Kim found
529
00:24:49,589 --> 00:24:52,559
Billy Ray hanging by the
neck from a nearby trail.
530
00:24:52,659 --> 00:24:53,459
Bill!
531
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,461
What are you doing?
532
00:24:55,562 --> 00:24:57,429
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): An
alleged suicide note was found
533
00:24:57,530 --> 00:24:59,666
in Billy Ray's pants pocket.
534
00:24:59,766 --> 00:25:03,603
It read in part, "My life
is really screwed up now,
535
00:25:03,703 --> 00:25:06,272
and I just don't
know how to fix it.
536
00:25:06,372 --> 00:25:09,308
I've been thinking a lot about
taking my life for a long time
537
00:25:09,408 --> 00:25:11,277
now.
Goodbye.
538
00:25:11,377 --> 00:25:14,480
Signed, William R. Hargrove."
539
00:25:14,581 --> 00:25:16,616
However, Billy Ray's
mother questions
540
00:25:16,716 --> 00:25:19,351
whether he wrote the note.
541
00:25:19,451 --> 00:25:20,753
SUE NUNNALLY: I
looked at the writing,
542
00:25:20,853 --> 00:25:23,289
and I did not believe
it was his writing.
543
00:25:23,389 --> 00:25:25,725
It did not look to
me like his writing.
544
00:25:28,394 --> 00:25:30,429
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): The
army acknowledges a possibility
545
00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:32,298
that the suicide note
might not have been
546
00:25:32,398 --> 00:25:34,433
in Billy Ray's handwriting.
547
00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:38,137
Even so, they ruled that he
had killed himself, speculating
548
00:25:38,237 --> 00:25:41,040
that he had been driven to
suicide by his upcoming court
549
00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:43,876
martial and divorce.
550
00:25:43,976 --> 00:25:46,178
He was not the type
of person to commit
551
00:25:46,278 --> 00:25:50,416
suicide, no matter what.
552
00:25:50,516 --> 00:25:53,085
Especially putting a
rope around his neck.
553
00:25:53,185 --> 00:25:57,023
I just could not believe it,
and I still don't believe it.
554
00:25:57,123 --> 00:25:59,992
Something happened to him,
but he did not commit suicide.
555
00:26:02,829 --> 00:26:04,196
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The autopsy report
556
00:26:04,296 --> 00:26:06,766
yielded another piece
of mysterious evidence
557
00:26:06,866 --> 00:26:09,869
that seemed to bolster
Sue Nunnally's claim.
558
00:26:09,969 --> 00:26:13,339
Billy Ray had unexplained
abrasions and lacerations
559
00:26:13,439 --> 00:26:15,975
on his face and hands.
560
00:26:16,075 --> 00:26:18,811
That would indicate
to me that someone had
561
00:26:18,911 --> 00:26:21,447
been in a scrape, or a fight.
562
00:26:21,547 --> 00:26:24,984
But the military,
in their report,
563
00:26:25,084 --> 00:26:32,058
didn't question anyone, or ask
where the scratches came from.
564
00:26:32,158 --> 00:26:36,228
They just ignored them.
565
00:26:36,328 --> 00:26:40,867
Billy Ray Hargrove was laid
to rest on March 4, 1992.
566
00:26:40,967 --> 00:26:42,702
One of the mourners
at his funeral
567
00:26:42,802 --> 00:26:44,904
was his old friend,
Mike Carmichael.
568
00:26:45,004 --> 00:26:47,106
I do know that there was
one part of the scripture--
569
00:26:47,206 --> 00:26:48,607
When I finally
did meet Mike, it
570
00:26:48,708 --> 00:26:52,845
was at Billy's funeral, when he
brought Billy's body back home.
571
00:26:52,945 --> 00:26:54,180
Fear no evil.
572
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,483
And he told me-- he said
Harv said, we'll give 'em hell.
573
00:26:57,583 --> 00:27:03,089
We're going to make 'em pay, the
SOBs pay, for what they'd done.
574
00:27:05,792 --> 00:27:07,126
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
After the service,
575
00:27:07,226 --> 00:27:11,798
Mike returned to the Hargroves'
house with Billy Ray's family.
576
00:27:11,898 --> 00:27:14,801
He looked at me, and he
promised, and he told me
577
00:27:14,901 --> 00:27:17,870
that if it was the
last thing he ever did,
578
00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:20,172
he was going to find out
what happened to Billy Ray.
579
00:27:20,272 --> 00:27:21,774
Just don't do anything
until you hear from me.
580
00:27:21,874 --> 00:27:22,675
OK.
581
00:27:22,775 --> 00:27:24,777
Bye.
582
00:27:24,877 --> 00:27:26,679
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Mike
Carmichael's uncle, Oscar,
583
00:27:26,779 --> 00:27:29,015
served in the
Marines for 20 years.
584
00:27:29,115 --> 00:27:30,917
He is now suffering
from emphysema,
585
00:27:31,017 --> 00:27:32,819
and told us that Mike
believed there was
586
00:27:32,919 --> 00:27:35,788
a larger conspiracy involved.
587
00:27:35,888 --> 00:27:38,290
And there had been
three other army
588
00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:41,828
personnel there
in Korea that had
589
00:27:41,928 --> 00:27:45,698
supposedly committed suicide.
590
00:27:45,798 --> 00:27:49,501
And my nephew told his birth
mother-- he says, don't
591
00:27:49,601 --> 00:27:51,070
be surprised if I'm not next.
592
00:27:54,006 --> 00:27:56,242
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
On March 22, 1992,
593
00:27:56,342 --> 00:27:58,277
Mike Carmichael
returned to Korea
594
00:27:58,377 --> 00:28:01,547
and immediately began
his own investigation.
595
00:28:01,647 --> 00:28:04,917
He and his wife, Sun Hui,
visited Billy Ray's widow, Kim,
596
00:28:05,017 --> 00:28:08,154
and collected Billy
Ray's personal papers.
597
00:28:08,254 --> 00:28:10,990
Included was a letter Billy
Ray had written to his father
598
00:28:11,090 --> 00:28:14,126
a few days before the
hanging, but Harvey Hargrove
599
00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:16,062
says he never received
the correspondence.
600
00:28:16,162 --> 00:28:17,897
Do you remember
what the letter said?
601
00:28:17,997 --> 00:28:23,235
He was supposed to have
written me a letter, sometimes
602
00:28:23,335 --> 00:28:24,270
in February.
603
00:28:24,370 --> 00:28:26,405
I don't know when,
but he was supposed
604
00:28:26,505 --> 00:28:27,874
to have written me a letter.
605
00:28:27,974 --> 00:28:29,475
I'm sure if I could
find that letter,
606
00:28:29,575 --> 00:28:32,378
it would explain everything.
607
00:28:32,478 --> 00:28:34,046
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Mike continued collecting
608
00:28:34,146 --> 00:28:36,783
Billy Ray's papers, and stored
them with his own papers
609
00:28:36,883 --> 00:28:38,584
in a metal box.
610
00:28:38,684 --> 00:28:41,353
Mike instructed his uncle
Oscar that if anything were
611
00:28:41,453 --> 00:28:43,689
to happen to him, Oscar
should immediately
612
00:28:43,790 --> 00:28:45,724
obtain possession of the box.
613
00:28:45,825 --> 00:28:47,526
But Mike never
revealed its contents.
614
00:28:50,930 --> 00:28:53,265
I'll see you at the club
tomorrow night, all right?
615
00:28:53,365 --> 00:28:55,234
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
April 3, 1992.
616
00:28:55,334 --> 00:28:57,970
Mike Carmichael's 38th birthday.
617
00:28:58,070 --> 00:29:01,140
At 10:00 PM he received
an unexpected phone call
618
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,109
ordering him back to the base.
619
00:29:03,209 --> 00:29:06,445
By the next morning, Mike
had still not returned home.
620
00:29:10,983 --> 00:29:13,285
INTERPRETER: On Sunday morning
I called the army base to find
621
00:29:13,385 --> 00:29:15,087
out where my husband was.
622
00:29:15,187 --> 00:29:16,889
I talked to a security guard.
623
00:29:16,989 --> 00:29:19,859
I was told that he did
not see my husband,
624
00:29:19,959 --> 00:29:21,560
so I asked him to try
to knock on the door
625
00:29:21,660 --> 00:29:22,929
of his barracks room.
626
00:29:23,029 --> 00:29:24,496
He said that there
was no response,
627
00:29:24,596 --> 00:29:25,431
and the door was locked.
628
00:29:29,235 --> 00:29:30,569
Where are you at?
629
00:29:30,669 --> 00:29:31,670
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): An hour
630
00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:33,205
later, Sun Hui
found her husband's
631
00:29:33,305 --> 00:29:34,273
body in his barracks office.
632
00:29:34,373 --> 00:29:35,574
Mike?
633
00:29:35,674 --> 00:29:37,009
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): He
was hanging from a locker,
634
00:29:37,109 --> 00:29:38,811
and had been dead
for several hours.
635
00:29:41,981 --> 00:29:45,451
The army investigation was
completed within a few days.
636
00:29:45,551 --> 00:29:47,686
They concluded that Mike
Carmichael had taken
637
00:29:47,786 --> 00:29:50,622
his own life because he was
despondent over financial
638
00:29:50,722 --> 00:29:53,092
matters and Billy Ray's death.
639
00:29:53,192 --> 00:29:55,461
Mike's wife has
accepted the ruling,
640
00:29:55,561 --> 00:30:00,199
however his mother and
uncle Oscar have not.
641
00:30:00,299 --> 00:30:08,040
I think he was angry, and I
think he was going to direct
642
00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:12,111
his anger towards
finding out the reason
643
00:30:12,211 --> 00:30:18,017
why or who caused his
friend-- or killed his friend.
644
00:30:18,117 --> 00:30:21,153
He was happier than I had
seen him in a long time,
645
00:30:21,253 --> 00:30:23,355
due to the fact
that him and Sun Hui
646
00:30:23,455 --> 00:30:25,858
had just gotten married in July.
647
00:30:25,958 --> 00:30:30,930
They were just like a couple
of overgrown kids, really.
648
00:30:31,030 --> 00:30:35,101
And he had that, he had his
retirement to look forward to.
649
00:30:35,201 --> 00:30:39,238
There was no way that
Mike would take his life,
650
00:30:39,338 --> 00:30:41,573
and take the chicken way out.
651
00:30:44,944 --> 00:30:46,979
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Oscar
Carmichael soon joined forces
652
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:48,847
with the Hargrove family.
653
00:30:48,948 --> 00:30:50,782
They launched a letter
writing campaign
654
00:30:50,883 --> 00:30:54,053
asking for the official
reports from the military.
655
00:30:54,153 --> 00:30:56,622
Unsatisfied with
the army's response,
656
00:30:56,722 --> 00:31:01,527
they contacted the Office of
US Congressman Jay Dickey.
657
00:31:01,627 --> 00:31:04,897
Greg Stein is Congressman
Dickey's legislative assistant,
658
00:31:04,997 --> 00:31:06,532
who was assigned to the case.
659
00:31:06,632 --> 00:31:08,467
But even the reports
that I could get
660
00:31:08,567 --> 00:31:12,138
were lacking in the
photos of the crimes,
661
00:31:12,238 --> 00:31:14,473
and other things
were withheld, or or
662
00:31:14,573 --> 00:31:16,542
whited out for certain reasons.
663
00:31:16,642 --> 00:31:20,479
And after looking at it, I
don't think that they took
664
00:31:20,579 --> 00:31:24,150
into account all of the
different aspects of the case,
665
00:31:24,250 --> 00:31:27,486
and they maybe kinda
just closed the door,
666
00:31:27,586 --> 00:31:29,721
without a thorough
investigation.
667
00:31:29,821 --> 00:31:31,057
I think the signs
are there that there
668
00:31:31,157 --> 00:31:32,291
is a cover up of some sort.
669
00:31:32,391 --> 00:31:35,327
And I don't want to accuse
anything, or anybody
670
00:31:35,427 --> 00:31:38,164
at this time of that, but
the reason why there would
671
00:31:38,264 --> 00:31:40,432
be a cover up, I don't know.
672
00:31:40,532 --> 00:31:42,534
That's one of the things
we want to find out.
673
00:31:42,634 --> 00:31:45,237
But I happen to think that
if we open this thing up,
674
00:31:45,337 --> 00:31:49,075
that we will find an answer.
675
00:31:49,175 --> 00:31:51,343
I want you men to clear out,
but stay close, because I may
676
00:31:51,443 --> 00:31:52,979
want to ask you some questions.
677
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:54,246
Move it.
678
00:31:54,346 --> 00:31:55,647
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The two families
679
00:31:55,747 --> 00:31:57,716
are especially disturbed
by the eerie and suspicious
680
00:31:57,816 --> 00:31:59,986
similarities in the deaths.
681
00:32:00,086 --> 00:32:03,489
Both Billy Ray and Mike had been
summoned to the army barracks.
682
00:32:03,589 --> 00:32:07,059
Both men were found hanging
just inches from the ground,
683
00:32:07,159 --> 00:32:08,727
and both had been
tied with parachute
684
00:32:08,827 --> 00:32:12,965
cord, which is highly elastic.
685
00:32:13,065 --> 00:32:15,567
This is the official crime
scene sketch from the US
686
00:32:15,667 --> 00:32:17,703
military investigation.
687
00:32:17,803 --> 00:32:21,507
Mike Carmichael's body was shown
hanging from a row of lockers,
688
00:32:21,607 --> 00:32:24,843
a cord wrapped around his neck.
689
00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:27,946
The question marks that come
up about Sergeant Carmichael
690
00:32:28,047 --> 00:32:30,316
start with the fact that
he's in a sitting position
691
00:32:30,416 --> 00:32:36,188
some 3 inches from the
floor, with his body
692
00:32:36,288 --> 00:32:37,356
dangling like that.
693
00:32:37,456 --> 00:32:39,992
Even the natural
instincts of a person
694
00:32:40,092 --> 00:32:43,029
would have your hands falling
down, or pushing against it.
695
00:32:43,129 --> 00:32:44,997
There's not any way that--
696
00:32:45,097 --> 00:32:47,599
our self-preservation
rites are such that we
697
00:32:47,699 --> 00:32:49,935
will do something like that.
698
00:32:50,036 --> 00:32:51,337
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Also noted
699
00:32:51,437 --> 00:32:54,073
in the drawing was a metal box
that contained Mike and Billy
700
00:32:54,173 --> 00:32:56,042
Ray's personal papers.
701
00:32:56,142 --> 00:32:59,745
It was sitting on a desk across
the room from Mike's body.
702
00:32:59,845 --> 00:33:03,249
Curiously, the box of letters
would later disappear,
703
00:33:03,349 --> 00:33:05,284
and no one knows
what happened to it.
704
00:33:08,187 --> 00:33:09,888
Mike Carmichael's
family learned of yet
705
00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:13,625
another disturbing similarity
between the two cases.
706
00:33:13,725 --> 00:33:16,795
Just as Billy Ray had abrasions
on his face and hands,
707
00:33:16,895 --> 00:33:19,098
Sergeant Carmichael
had welts on his face,
708
00:33:19,198 --> 00:33:22,000
and what appeared to be
a gash on his forehead.
709
00:33:22,101 --> 00:33:24,070
His uncle Oscar is
convinced that Mike
710
00:33:24,170 --> 00:33:27,439
was struck before he died.
711
00:33:27,539 --> 00:33:31,110
You take a pipe, it'll be
about an inch, or 5/8 inch,
712
00:33:31,210 --> 00:33:35,347
and hit him over the head with
it, that's the kind of valley
713
00:33:35,447 --> 00:33:37,283
that you'd find,
or crevice, however
714
00:33:37,383 --> 00:33:39,485
way you want to describe it.
715
00:33:39,585 --> 00:33:42,921
So that's why I say that
my nephew, in my opinion,
716
00:33:43,021 --> 00:33:46,792
was dead before he was
placed in that position.
717
00:33:46,892 --> 00:33:50,529
I believe in
Billy Ray's case--
718
00:33:50,629 --> 00:33:53,532
and in Mike's case, too--
719
00:33:53,632 --> 00:33:58,704
that something had to be
going on that wasn't right.
720
00:33:58,804 --> 00:34:02,674
Something that they found out
about, or knew about, or maybe
721
00:34:02,774 --> 00:34:05,077
was going to expose.
722
00:34:05,177 --> 00:34:06,945
And they were gotten rid of.
723
00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:32,738
ROBERT STACK: When we return,
the intriguing disappearance
724
00:34:32,838 --> 00:34:34,573
of Charles Horvath.
725
00:34:34,673 --> 00:34:37,309
Did the young hitchhiker
choose to drop from sight,
726
00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:39,178
or did he meet with foul play?
727
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,623
Imagine your 20 year old son
is traveling in a foreign land.
728
00:34:51,723 --> 00:34:54,693
Suddenly his phone calls
and postcards stop.
729
00:34:54,793 --> 00:34:58,297
Weeks pass with no news, and
you begin to fear your child
730
00:34:58,397 --> 00:35:00,299
will never come home.
731
00:35:00,399 --> 00:35:03,902
This is exactly what happened
to Denise Horvath-Allan.
732
00:35:04,002 --> 00:35:06,405
In 1989 her son,
Charles, disappeared
733
00:35:06,505 --> 00:35:08,574
in Canada, halfway
around the world
734
00:35:08,674 --> 00:35:10,309
from their home in England.
735
00:35:10,409 --> 00:35:13,712
Ever since, Denise has been
trying to find out exactly
736
00:35:13,812 --> 00:35:15,013
what happened to her son.
737
00:35:18,484 --> 00:35:21,287
In the spring of
1989, Charles Horvath
738
00:35:21,387 --> 00:35:24,556
was in the midst of a
hitchhiking trip across Canada.
739
00:35:24,656 --> 00:35:26,825
In August, he planned
to fly to Hong Kong
740
00:35:26,925 --> 00:35:30,128
to celebrate his 21st birthday
with his mother, Denise,
741
00:35:30,229 --> 00:35:33,299
and his stepfather.
742
00:35:33,399 --> 00:35:34,966
The birthday
festivities promised
743
00:35:35,066 --> 00:35:36,635
to be a high point
in what had always
744
00:35:36,735 --> 00:35:38,837
been a close relationship.
745
00:35:38,937 --> 00:35:41,640
Denise was just 19
when Charles was born,
746
00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:44,109
20 when she divorced his father.
747
00:35:44,210 --> 00:35:47,613
In some respects, mother and
son had grown up together.
748
00:35:47,713 --> 00:35:49,815
But before Denise could
make final arrangements for
749
00:35:49,915 --> 00:35:54,620
the trip, Charles disappeared.
750
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:57,389
I telephoned the Aussie
MP, repeatedly begging them
751
00:35:57,489 --> 00:35:59,090
to look for Charles
because I was so
752
00:35:59,191 --> 00:36:01,527
concerned something was wrong.
753
00:36:01,627 --> 00:36:03,695
I then asked them
if they could give
754
00:36:03,795 --> 00:36:04,996
me the name of the
local newspapers,
755
00:36:05,096 --> 00:36:06,698
to enable me to place an ad.
756
00:36:06,798 --> 00:36:10,168
So we'd started planning my trip
to come and search for my child
757
00:36:10,269 --> 00:36:11,069
myself.
758
00:36:14,072 --> 00:36:15,841
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Kelowna, British Columbia.
759
00:36:15,941 --> 00:36:18,210
For thousands of
vacationers each year
760
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:21,146
it is a favorite spot,
but for Denise Allan
761
00:36:21,247 --> 00:36:22,848
it had the somber
distinction of being
762
00:36:22,948 --> 00:36:27,886
the last place on Earth her son
was known to have been alive.
763
00:36:27,986 --> 00:36:30,589
It was from here that Charles
faxed his final letter
764
00:36:30,689 --> 00:36:33,292
on May 11, 1989.
765
00:36:33,392 --> 00:36:34,693
And it was here
that Denise search
766
00:36:34,793 --> 00:36:37,463
for clues to his son's
fate during two extended
767
00:36:37,563 --> 00:36:43,869
trips between 1990 and 1992.
768
00:36:43,969 --> 00:36:47,573
During the first trip, Denise
blanketed the town with flyers.
769
00:36:47,673 --> 00:36:49,140
She soon heard
from a woman named
770
00:36:49,241 --> 00:36:51,377
Joanne Zebroff,
who had met Charles
771
00:36:51,477 --> 00:36:55,046
during his stay in Kelowna.
772
00:36:55,146 --> 00:36:57,048
When I first met
Charles, it was
773
00:36:57,148 --> 00:36:59,518
of this charming,
good looking guy
774
00:36:59,618 --> 00:37:07,493
who was obviously new to
Canada, and I really liked him.
775
00:37:07,593 --> 00:37:10,161
I thought, oh, here's
a unique person.
776
00:37:10,262 --> 00:37:11,930
- That's my mom.
- She's gorgeous.
777
00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:12,831
Yeah.
778
00:37:12,931 --> 00:37:13,765
He loved his family.
779
00:37:13,865 --> 00:37:14,900
He showed me pictures.
780
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,638
He-- he was so proud of
all these photographs
781
00:37:19,738 --> 00:37:20,539
of his mother.
782
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:22,107
They were very close.
783
00:37:22,207 --> 00:37:25,110
It was obvious they were close.
784
00:37:25,210 --> 00:37:26,512
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The last time
785
00:37:26,612 --> 00:37:29,381
Charles dropped by the apartment
Joanne shared with her mother,
786
00:37:29,481 --> 00:37:31,317
he arrived uninvited.
787
00:37:31,417 --> 00:37:32,451
JOANNE: Hello?
788
00:37:32,551 --> 00:37:34,019
Is it Joanne?
789
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:35,086
JOANNE: Yes, it is.
790
00:37:35,186 --> 00:37:36,455
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): At the time,
791
00:37:36,555 --> 00:37:39,625
Joanne's brother was in town
for a special family reunion,
792
00:37:39,725 --> 00:37:42,060
and the Zebroffs
politely refused Charles'
793
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,962
request to come up and visit.
794
00:37:44,062 --> 00:37:47,999
JOANNE: Actually, it isn't
a very good time right now.
795
00:37:48,099 --> 00:37:50,135
There was this momentary
silence, and what
796
00:37:50,235 --> 00:37:53,939
stays in our mind, fresh
forever, is how he went,
797
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:56,408
but it's Charles.
798
00:37:56,508 --> 00:37:59,010
And, like, of course
you're going to let me up.
799
00:37:59,110 --> 00:38:00,812
And we just couldn't.
800
00:38:00,912 --> 00:38:02,047
We're-- we're having
a family dinner.
801
00:38:02,147 --> 00:38:03,014
I'm sorry.
802
00:38:09,388 --> 00:38:10,689
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Joanne told
803
00:38:10,789 --> 00:38:14,259
Denise that the brief chat was
her last contact with Charles.
804
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,095
To Joanne's best
recollection, the episode had
805
00:38:17,195 --> 00:38:20,131
taken place in May of 1989--
806
00:38:20,231 --> 00:38:22,501
the same month Denise had
last heard from Charles.
807
00:38:27,038 --> 00:38:29,375
You keep telling me that
you're afraid for your safety.
808
00:38:29,475 --> 00:38:30,275
Why?
809
00:38:30,376 --> 00:38:32,277
Leads began streaming in.
810
00:38:32,378 --> 00:38:35,046
Denise soon learned that
while he was in Kelowna,
811
00:38:35,146 --> 00:38:37,349
Charles had stayed at
a campground located
812
00:38:37,449 --> 00:38:38,950
in a rough part of town.
813
00:38:39,050 --> 00:38:39,885
Who else was there?
814
00:38:39,985 --> 00:38:40,919
Can you remember anybody house?
815
00:38:43,355 --> 00:38:45,056
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
In spite of the campground's
816
00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:47,726
unsavory reputation,
Denise knew that she
817
00:38:47,826 --> 00:38:52,831
had no choice but to go
there and investigate.
818
00:38:52,931 --> 00:38:55,333
DENISE: I wanted to go over
to the campsite to inquire,
819
00:38:55,434 --> 00:38:57,769
but I was very
apprehensive of going.
820
00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:03,141
Eventually I got the courage,
and went across to see them,
821
00:39:03,241 --> 00:39:04,776
to see if they
remembered Charles.
822
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:11,016
[knocking]
823
00:39:11,116 --> 00:39:13,485
Excuse me?
824
00:39:13,585 --> 00:39:17,889
I'm looking for my lost
son, Charles Horvath.
825
00:39:17,989 --> 00:39:20,058
He disappeared a
year ago in Kelowna.
826
00:39:20,158 --> 00:39:22,260
I wonder if you remember
him staying here?
827
00:39:26,432 --> 00:39:28,266
Yeah, I remember him.
828
00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:29,835
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
The campground manager
829
00:39:29,935 --> 00:39:33,204
said that Charles left
abruptly in May of 1989,
830
00:39:33,304 --> 00:39:36,475
abandoning his tent,
and all his possessions.
831
00:39:36,575 --> 00:39:39,077
Most had been disposed of,
but the few that remained
832
00:39:39,177 --> 00:39:40,045
were close at hand.
833
00:39:44,082 --> 00:39:44,883
I was just numb.
834
00:39:48,687 --> 00:39:50,321
I went down to the
police station,
835
00:39:50,422 --> 00:39:53,158
and I was told that they were
going to inform Interpol to get
836
00:39:53,258 --> 00:39:55,994
his dental records,
and the file was
837
00:39:56,094 --> 00:39:58,464
being passed on to homicide.
838
00:39:58,564 --> 00:40:01,266
I was also told that they
believed my son to be dead.
839
00:40:01,366 --> 00:40:05,704
That we may never find his
body, or what happened to him.
840
00:40:05,804 --> 00:40:07,506
It's very unfortunate
that a comment like that
841
00:40:07,606 --> 00:40:11,076
would be made, and I would
have to say that that would be
842
00:40:11,176 --> 00:40:13,144
that member's personal
opinion, and certainly not
843
00:40:13,244 --> 00:40:15,681
the view of the police force.
844
00:40:15,781 --> 00:40:19,284
I don't know upon what he based
that, other than the fact items
845
00:40:19,384 --> 00:40:21,252
were left at a campsite,
and in my opinion that
846
00:40:21,352 --> 00:40:24,923
does not substantiate that.
847
00:40:25,023 --> 00:40:27,459
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
But on March 17, 1992,
848
00:40:27,559 --> 00:40:30,261
the case took a
sudden, ominous turn.
849
00:40:30,361 --> 00:40:32,197
Denise came back
to her hotel room
850
00:40:32,297 --> 00:40:35,366
to find an unsigned letter
scrawled in a rough hand.
851
00:40:42,974 --> 00:40:44,442
MALE VOICE: I've seen
your ad in the paper,
852
00:40:44,543 --> 00:40:46,277
looking for your son.
853
00:40:46,377 --> 00:40:48,279
I've seen him May 26.
854
00:40:48,379 --> 00:40:51,182
We were partying, and two
people knocked him out.
855
00:40:51,282 --> 00:40:52,718
But he died.
856
00:40:52,818 --> 00:40:55,086
His body is in the
lake, by the bridge.
857
00:41:04,229 --> 00:41:05,463
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Lake Okanagan,
858
00:41:05,564 --> 00:41:07,899
just outside of Kelowna,
is one of the deepest
859
00:41:07,999 --> 00:41:09,801
lakes in the world.
860
00:41:09,901 --> 00:41:12,170
Local divers
immediately volunteered
861
00:41:12,270 --> 00:41:14,405
to look for the body
of Charles Horvath.
862
00:41:17,075 --> 00:41:19,511
For five days a search
yielded nothing,
863
00:41:19,611 --> 00:41:22,280
but the mysterious informant
was apparently watching
864
00:41:22,380 --> 00:41:24,082
the divers' every move.
865
00:41:24,182 --> 00:41:26,284
Denise received a
second note saying
866
00:41:26,384 --> 00:41:30,021
they were looking on the
wrong side of the bridge.
867
00:41:30,121 --> 00:41:32,023
We're stopping
every 10, 15 feet.
868
00:41:32,123 --> 00:41:33,124
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Equipped
869
00:41:33,224 --> 00:41:35,527
with a submersible
camera, the divers began
870
00:41:35,627 --> 00:41:37,763
to search at the new location.
871
00:41:37,863 --> 00:41:41,166
One day later, they told police
that they had found a body.
872
00:41:44,369 --> 00:41:48,406
The fear in the
young officer's eyes
873
00:41:48,506 --> 00:41:51,677
told me that he
thought it was Charles.
874
00:41:51,777 --> 00:41:55,647
The total panic on their faces--
875
00:41:55,747 --> 00:41:59,551
I-- I was hysterical,
in the bathroom crying.
876
00:41:59,651 --> 00:42:03,822
Which, I assume, is quite
normal of any parent.
877
00:42:03,922 --> 00:42:06,457
I just couldn't believe
that he was dead.
878
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,696
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Even before authorities
879
00:42:10,796 --> 00:42:13,131
had identified the
corpse, local papers
880
00:42:13,231 --> 00:42:14,966
were trumpeting the
news that the body
881
00:42:15,066 --> 00:42:16,467
was that of Charles Horvath.
882
00:42:19,237 --> 00:42:22,373
The coroner came to
see me at the motel.
883
00:42:22,473 --> 00:42:27,312
I asked him if it was Charles.
884
00:42:27,412 --> 00:42:30,281
Was it-- no--
885
00:42:30,381 --> 00:42:33,251
I asked him if it
was good news or bad,
886
00:42:33,351 --> 00:42:35,020
and he said it wasn't Charles.
887
00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:40,525
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): The dead man
888
00:42:40,626 --> 00:42:43,428
was later identified as
a 64 year old Kelowna
889
00:42:43,528 --> 00:42:46,264
resident-- a probable suicide.
890
00:42:46,364 --> 00:42:48,600
Police now believe that
the anonymous notes
891
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:53,304
were hoaxes, and the discovery
of a body just a coincidence.
892
00:42:53,404 --> 00:42:56,541
Once again it seemed that
Charles must be alive.
893
00:42:56,642 --> 00:42:58,610
Then a man named
Gino Bourdin came
894
00:42:58,710 --> 00:43:00,879
forward, claiming
to have seen Charles
895
00:43:00,979 --> 00:43:03,048
just before he disappeared.
896
00:43:03,148 --> 00:43:05,851
Gino and his son had pitched
their tent near Charles
897
00:43:05,951 --> 00:43:07,653
while he was at the campground.
898
00:43:13,291 --> 00:43:14,092
GINO: He was a nice guy.
899
00:43:14,192 --> 00:43:15,160
He was a good friend.
900
00:43:15,260 --> 00:43:17,829
He used to always come
over to our camp--
901
00:43:17,929 --> 00:43:20,999
our little camp, and have
coffee in the morning,
902
00:43:21,099 --> 00:43:24,602
and play Frisbee and
catch with my son,
903
00:43:24,703 --> 00:43:26,805
and just sit and chat with us.
904
00:43:26,905 --> 00:43:27,939
What should I do with him?
905
00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:29,407
You should take him
to Hong Kong with you.
906
00:43:29,507 --> 00:43:31,209
That's it.
Pack him in my suitcase.
907
00:43:31,309 --> 00:43:33,078
There you go.
- Here's some coffee.
908
00:43:33,178 --> 00:43:34,746
Some sugar and
that at the table.
909
00:43:34,846 --> 00:43:36,247
He was a friendly guy.
910
00:43:36,347 --> 00:43:37,148
A real friendly guy.
911
00:43:37,248 --> 00:43:39,117
Probably too friendly.
912
00:43:39,217 --> 00:43:44,222
He seemed-- I don't
know, naive about--
913
00:43:44,322 --> 00:43:46,124
like, he wasn't--
he'd talk to anybody.
914
00:43:46,224 --> 00:43:50,161
He'd make friends with anybody.
915
00:43:50,261 --> 00:43:52,397
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Gino's
recollections added details
916
00:43:52,497 --> 00:43:54,900
to the campground
manager's account.
917
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,803
Gino had last seen Charles
during a raucous, all night
918
00:43:57,903 --> 00:43:59,637
party at the campground.
919
00:43:59,738 --> 00:44:03,274
The next morning, Gino had
awakened to find Charles gone,
920
00:44:03,374 --> 00:44:04,910
and his things left behind.
921
00:44:08,179 --> 00:44:10,115
When I first established
that Charles had abandoned
922
00:44:10,215 --> 00:44:13,451
his belongings at
the campsite, it
923
00:44:13,551 --> 00:44:16,121
was assumed that something
terrible had happened to him
924
00:44:16,221 --> 00:44:17,823
which caused him to
leave his belongings,
925
00:44:17,923 --> 00:44:20,158
because it was so
unlike him to have
926
00:44:20,258 --> 00:44:21,893
left his photographs
behind, which
927
00:44:21,993 --> 00:44:25,030
were very important to him.
928
00:44:25,130 --> 00:44:26,297
ROBERT STACK
(VOICEOVER): Gino's story
929
00:44:26,397 --> 00:44:28,466
seemed to confirm the
theory that Charles had met
930
00:44:28,566 --> 00:44:32,237
with foul play, but continued
investigation revealed
931
00:44:32,337 --> 00:44:34,605
that Charles was
very much alive long
932
00:44:34,706 --> 00:44:38,109
after he left the campground.
933
00:44:38,209 --> 00:44:39,577
JOANNE: Hello?
934
00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:40,712
Is it Joanne?
935
00:44:40,812 --> 00:44:42,113
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER):
Charles supposed
936
00:44:42,213 --> 00:44:45,116
called at Joanne Zebroff's
apartment in May of 1989,
937
00:44:45,216 --> 00:44:48,386
but police later discovered
that Joanne was mistaken.
938
00:44:48,486 --> 00:44:51,857
Charles had actually come
by in July, two full months
939
00:44:51,957 --> 00:44:53,859
after he had last
contacted his mother.
940
00:44:56,928 --> 00:44:59,297
This revelation has
led some to conclude
941
00:44:59,397 --> 00:45:01,332
that for unknown
personal reasons,
942
00:45:01,432 --> 00:45:04,202
Charles intentionally severed
contact with his family.
943
00:45:07,505 --> 00:45:09,775
During our
investigation we contacted
944
00:45:09,875 --> 00:45:13,111
two of Charles' relatives
back in eastern Canada.
945
00:45:13,211 --> 00:45:16,547
They related to us that during
his time there with them,
946
00:45:16,647 --> 00:45:20,618
he did advise both relatives
that it was his intention, when
947
00:45:20,718 --> 00:45:23,721
discussing his family
situation, to disappear off
948
00:45:23,822 --> 00:45:25,857
the face of the Earth,
and that his mother would
949
00:45:25,957 --> 00:45:27,625
never find him,
and that he wanted
950
00:45:27,725 --> 00:45:30,762
to carry on with his own life.
951
00:45:30,862 --> 00:45:32,764
It is totally out
of character for him
952
00:45:32,864 --> 00:45:39,504
to have gone out intentionally
to break away from his family,
953
00:45:39,604 --> 00:45:43,374
because he wasn't
that kind of boy.
954
00:45:43,474 --> 00:45:48,679
He may have tried to imply to
people who he wanted to impress
955
00:45:48,780 --> 00:45:49,948
that he didn't need his mom.
956
00:45:50,048 --> 00:45:52,517
What 20 year old
does need their mom,
957
00:45:52,617 --> 00:45:53,985
or would admit to needing them?
958
00:45:54,085 --> 00:45:54,886
It's not very macho.
959
00:46:01,459 --> 00:46:03,394
ROBERT STACK (VOICEOVER): Four
years have passed without word
960
00:46:03,494 --> 00:46:06,231
from Charles Horvath,
but police have received
961
00:46:06,331 --> 00:46:08,599
tips from nearly 200 people.
962
00:46:08,699 --> 00:46:11,402
Some claim to have seen
Charles hitchhiking in Canada
963
00:46:11,502 --> 00:46:14,439
as recently as April of 1992.
964
00:46:14,539 --> 00:46:17,342
Others are equally certain
that Charles Horvath never
965
00:46:17,442 --> 00:46:19,077
made it out of Kelowna alive.
966
00:46:22,981 --> 00:46:25,050
If Charles is
out in this world--
967
00:46:25,150 --> 00:46:27,385
you know, in a
gutter somewhere--
968
00:46:27,485 --> 00:46:29,320
he needs picking up
and bringing home,
969
00:46:29,420 --> 00:46:32,623
and getting medical help,
or whatever kind of help
970
00:46:32,723 --> 00:46:35,360
is required.
971
00:46:35,460 --> 00:46:38,029
If not, if he is dead,
and he's been murdered,
972
00:46:38,129 --> 00:46:38,930
he needs burying.
973
00:46:42,433 --> 00:46:48,306
I've been asking for help for so
many years, because of my fear
974
00:46:48,406 --> 00:46:50,441
that something's
happened to him.
975
00:46:50,541 --> 00:46:58,449
And it'll only be if he's found
dead that I'll be proven right.
976
00:46:58,549 --> 00:47:00,418
What a way to be proven right.
977
00:47:04,689 --> 00:47:07,792
ROBERT STACK: Charles Horvath
would now be 25 years old.
978
00:47:07,893 --> 00:47:11,429
He is six feet tall, with dark
brown hair, dark brown eyes,
979
00:47:11,529 --> 00:47:13,831
and a tattoo on his left arm.
980
00:47:13,932 --> 00:47:15,733
When last seen, Charles
weighed 165 lbs.
981
00:47:27,712 --> 00:47:31,516
On our next "Unsolved
Mysteries," when a 17 year old
982
00:47:31,616 --> 00:47:34,685
girl disappeared
in 1974, her family
983
00:47:34,785 --> 00:47:37,255
became convinced that she
had been abducted by members
984
00:47:37,355 --> 00:47:39,958
of a renegade motorcycle gang.
985
00:47:40,058 --> 00:47:42,427
The girl's mother soon
embarked on a dark journey
986
00:47:42,527 --> 00:47:44,562
into the biker subculture.
987
00:47:44,662 --> 00:47:46,731
Nearly 20 years
later, she believes
988
00:47:46,831 --> 00:47:48,666
her daughter is still alive--
989
00:47:48,766 --> 00:47:53,204
still, perhaps, being
held against her will.
990
00:47:53,304 --> 00:47:56,207
Join me next time
for an all new show.
991
00:47:56,307 --> 00:48:00,545
Perhaps you may be able
to solve a mystery.
992
00:48:00,645 --> 00:48:03,614
[theme music]
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